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Broadcasts live every Wednesday at 7:00p.m. uk time on Radio Soapbox: http://radiosoapbox.com

The Shelley Tasker Show is a dynamic, thought-provoking program hosted by Shelley Tasker every Wednesday at 7pm uk time. Hour 2 is Co-hosted with the great Mallificus Scott.
The show offers insightful commentary, interviews, and discussions on current events, culture, and social issues. With a focus on honest dialogue and independent perspectives, The show provides an open space for exploring diverse viewpoints and tackling important topics with authenticity and thoughtfulness. Whether you’re looking for fresh takes on trending issues or in-depth conversations,
Part 2 of the show Mr Mallificus Scott joins us as Co-host for quirky conversations about recent and past events.


In this episode of the Shelley Tasker Show, we dive into a lively discussion with guest Howard Koolman, a renowned researcher, astrologer, and expert on Q and Trump. Despite some initial technical hiccups, Shelley and Howard engage in a thought-provoking conversation about the current political climate in the United States and the broader implications of socialism and capitalism. Howard shares insights into Trump's strategies, the role of the Department of Government Efficiency (Doge), and the potential auditing of the Federal Reserve.

Howard elaborates on the complexities of the global financial system, the challenges of transitioning from a fiat money system, and the importance of balancing trade. He also discusses the potential impact of cryptocurrency as a strategic reserve and the role of Doge in uncovering financial inefficiencies and corruption within government agencies.

In part 2 with Mallificus, the conversation shifts to the historical context of World War II, with a focus on the bombing of Dresden. Shelley shares her ongoing journey of reading about the harrowing events of the war, while Mallificus provides insights into the propaganda and misinformation surrounding historical narratives. The episode concludes with a reflection on the importance of understanding history and the lessons it holds for the present and future.

[00:01:29] Unknown:

Good evening, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome   to the Shelley Tasker Show   coming live out of RadioSoapbox.com.   That was a nice little bit of music there.   Today's date is Wednesday, 02/12/2025.   Happy hump day, everybody.   Right. So here we are.   And I have got a great guest lined up. However,   he's not in the waiting room.   I only spoke to him an hour ago. I was starting to feel jinxed with radio shows.   Let's,   let's just double check a second.   So how have you all been? Have you had a good week? Does it feel like Wednesday?   I'm so ready for Friday.  

Although this week has been   a lot, lot quieter,   a lot less stressful.   Tax returns   up and done. Hallelujah.   Do you have to pay a tiny little bit? So that's not too bad, though, to say it's my first year in business. It wasn't a total loss, so all was good. I'm just trying to call Howard a minute. He is our guest for this evening, Howard Corman,   the awesome   researcher,   astrologer,   Q, and Trump expert,   and   the phone's ringing.   I bet he's, like, an hour away. Hello, Howard.   I am. Are you ready?   Yeah. I'm in. You're in? Okay. I'll add you. I can't see you. Bear with me a second, listener.   Listeners.  

Waiting room. It says you're not in the waiting room, Howard.   Oh, darn it. I do love love live radio. Bear with me a second.   I'm gonna resend you the link to Messenger   Okay. But it should have been the right one. Panic stations. You've gotta love a bit of live radio.   Let me just see.   Sorry about this, guys. This is live.   One day, everything will work just perfectly.   Right. I've just resent it to you, Howard.   Okay.   Gotta love a bit of dead air. Oh, there he is. I can see you. Whoop whoop. Right.   You're coming in. You're coming into the room. Right.   Okay. Let's add your sound.  

You just need   you just need to add your sound, Howard. It's on mute.   See the little red   circle thing that's got a cross through the microphone?   Oh, technology.   There we are. You there. Whoo. And it's my   there we go. Hooray. Right. We'll see you. Yay. We're there. I'm just gonna change  

[00:04:28] Unknown:

my oh, no. I can't. I don't know quite how to do that.   I probably don't need my headset on, do I? Where's the phone coming out?  

[00:04:37] Unknown:

I don't know. I can just about cope with things my end, Howard.  

[00:04:41] Unknown:

Yeah. It's a funny old day because we've got in astrology, we've got a full moon.   Surprise, surprise. Yeah. But it's, square Uranus, which is always,   represents electrical things. So if anything electrical's been playing up,  

[00:04:55] Unknown:

then today is the day for it to happen. Oh, today is the day. Right. Well, that's alright then. Well,  

[00:05:01] Unknown:

you're coming out through my speaker. So hopefully, there's no feedback, so I'm not gonna bother using these headphones.  

[00:05:07] Unknown:

No. No. That's okay. All sounding good. I can hear you, and fingers crossed everybody else come as well. Right. So how are you doing anyway?  

[00:05:15] Unknown:

Yeah. I'm very good. Thanks.   Yeah. Kind of,   enjoying the winter and enjoying   the Trump show at the moment. It's all very   entertaining and and moving at huge speed.  

[00:05:27] Unknown:

Good. I'm looking forward to this, and I loved the fact that on his day that he got elected, you messaged me at, like, 07:00 in the morning.   The two of you and your partner with your Trump hats on. I mean Yeah. I'm not   I'm not overly sure on him. I read a lot of, little bits here and there, but,   I find it exciting. But yeah. So where do you wanna start? We usually like I just said before you come on, we usually talk a little bit about health, astrology, Trump queue.   Oh, yeah. Where do you wanna start?  

[00:05:57] Unknown:

Where do we wanna start? I guess we could start with, we might as well start with Trump, really, and what's going on in The US. I mean, I always start by saying that The US is the   ground zero of where everything's gonna begin.   And,   yeah, because everywhere else is pretty, really pretty stuck, isn't it? I mean, The UK is in a terrible state, isn't it? We've got,   Keir Starmer who's it's it's   I mean, the whole thing is is really I mean, there's right and wrong. There's good and bad. You know? But also there is socialism   and where that leads. You know? A lot of people forget that Hitler was a socialist.  

I mean, he was a fascist, but he was a socialist first. He came out of the socialist,   party in Germany.   So people forget that. And there's a slippery slope, really, from socialism down to communism and dictatorship.   Whereas with capitalism, yes, there's corruption there. You can slide in in another direction towards plutocracy and   and all that.   But, you know, if capitalism isn't working, the solution is not socialism. That's the trouble. And I think   that's what is being played off. You know? They've they've allowed the capitalist corruption to get to such an extent, and then the deep state have offered socialism as the solution.   And so everybody's thinking, oh, well, that must be the solution then. But, of course, where that leads you is it leads you into the global police state.  

And one of the main facets of socialism   is that you are   showing well, you're saying basically as a socialist government or any kind of socialist enterprise that you know better than the people.   The the and and there therefore, because you know better than what the people,   think they need, then   you seize power from them, and you centralize power within,   within,   bigger and bigger entities. So the classic example of that, of course, is,   European Union, where you're   taking powers from the individual companies and centralizing it.   And then you've got things like the World Health Organization,   centralized health.  

You've got central and centralized health in this country. We've got that quite strongly as well with the NHS.   And, of course, the   the proviso, it was always that,   we will look after you. So then you become,   like,   you're the child and they become the parent.   And then you seed your   your power and your authority   to them. So you we you're giving away your power in whenever there's a bigger institution   which is offering to help you, there's a danger that you end up giving your power and authority to them. And then they will happily take it, and they'll go, yeah. Okay. Great stuff. We'll take your power from you, and, we'll lock up to you. But do they have your best interest at heart? No. They don't.   And do the central authorities actually have the best idea of how to do things?  

No. They don't.   So it and then and then because then you challenge it, then those socialist movement then defends itself. And it defends itself by then taking more powers   to prevent you from taking power away from the socialist centralized body. And then you end up in this battle, and then you end up in a police state.   So this is the way things go. And what's happening in the world at the moment is   that we had a broken capitalist system,   and then socialism was presented as a solution. And then all the mainstream media,   they're all,   going along with that narrative and trying to push it because it's all part of this big socialist. You could say the UN's at the top or you you can put different bodies at the top.  

You put the central banks at the top if you want to. It's another kind of, like, centralized body.   And all these centralized bodies. And,   Yeah. So that's so we've been   people have been allowing themselves to be,   seduced into this idea that socialism is gonna   fix and help them. And and, of course, it's it's not. And it's a it's a Trojan horse.   So The US,   ground zero, they are the country   which is,   taking the metal battle   and trying to educate the population is, as to why socialism has gone away.   And, of course, within socials, you got lots and lots of different things going on. You've got,   obviously, you've got your liberties taken away during COVID. That's a socialist agenda. You've got,   DEI,   coming out and all of the LGBTQ   being pushed and forced on everybody,   which people have had enough of.  

And then you've got all these big   financial systems, which are being set up to help those which are,   vulnerable.   But they're taking in huge amounts of money. Most of the money isn't going to them. It's going, you know, on in other places.   And, yeah, the vulnerable are afraid that if socialism's not there, that they won't be looked after.   And that   that's   what socialism are using to basically justify their takeover.   But it's really not the case. What we need to do is we need to take capitalism and fix capitalism,   and then make sure capitalism actually cares for everybody.  

That's the solution.   Yeah. So it's an interesting so   yeah. So Trump, The US has got this constitution, and the constitution is free from a speech and and lots and lots of other things in there.   And it's about and, of course, it was the country itself was formed by entrepreneurs   leaving Europe and actually forming this new country. So the whole basis of the country was set up really on a libertarian,   basis.   And they're very enterprising of costs. And so that whole enterprising capitalist system thrived over there.   And and the most recent,   big success for the socialism in The US was   back in the early twentieth century when the Federal Reserve was created,   which was used to raise money for the first World War. I mean, banks   and governments,   raise money for wars and,   and so the Federal Reserve. So the really exciting thing I'm looking forward to, but it's maybe a year or two down the line is when the actually, it might be sooner than that, is when the Federal Reserve is audited.  

So everything's being audited at the moment, isn't it? The, and you, how much have you been hearing about Doge? Because Doge is the department I haven't really heard  

[00:12:48] Unknown:

a lot about Matt Howard.  

[00:12:50] Unknown:

Right. So and you know about do you know about Elon Musk? Elon Musk's,   being involved in Doge, the Department of Government Efficiency?  

[00:12:59] Unknown:

No. I've not heard of Doge before.  

[00:13:02] Unknown:

Okay. So it's really worth looking into Doge. Doge is huge in The US at the moment. It's starting to uncover all sorts of massive,   money,   money laundering, fraud.  

[00:13:14] Unknown:

And so ever since Trump's come come in?  

[00:13:17] Unknown:

Yes. So   so in interesting I mean, we're in it's, Trump's operation really is a three stage operation. The first stage was,   obviously, Hillary was gonna get in. And so Trump got in, stopped Hillary getting in, and the first agenda really was to stop World War three because Hillary would have brought in World War three.   Reduce the number of conflicts around the world. Obviously, defeat ISIS because ISIS was a growing, growing threat threat.   And to wake up the people,   as much as possible to,   the corruption and various things that were going on. So, I mean, he helped. And   really, he wanted to get as many people on his side as possible.  

So it was Republicans. He couldn't get in as an independent, so he had to go in as   a as a Republican. That was his only option.   He tried to go in as an independent, but that didn't work. So he had to go in as a Republican. So the only option really   was because socialism   is a poison chalice, really, which is what the Democrats   that's what their their whole enterprise was.   He had to go in as a Republican to then champion   and fix capitalism. But, of course, the Republican party was totally corrupt as well. So he got two corrupt parties,   both being manipulated by the same kind of group behind the scenes.  

And so he had to go in as a Republican to champion capitalism,   but he has to clean out and expose the, what we call the rhinos, the Republican in name only,   people. So the first sort of presidency and also in the first presidency, his first four years, he's really finding his feet. And, of course, he's   he told everybody, you know, that the whole system's corrupt, but I'm here to kinda fix it for you. And,   and stand, you know, between you and,   the bad guys. So   he obviously was impeached twice. They're constantly at him. There was assassination attempts. There was,   they did absolutely everything they could to remove him. And while all that was going on, he was still   championing the people, you know, helping,   loads of people have been put in jail that shouldn't have been. So he was, created   things to help get people out of jail that weren't in jail.  



[00:15:35] Unknown:

And I see that he got the majority out from the stampeded   Yeah. To the White House?  

[00:15:42] Unknown:

Yeah. So the whole   yeah. So that whole thing. So, basically, what he did is he did manage to get a huge support. He woke a lot of people up, and the majority of the people behind Trump at that point. Then the twenty twenty election happens. And in November, of course, we we knew that there was gonna be huge voter fraud to try and, get Biden in.   And there's a very good film about it, which if people haven't seen, you should really watch it, which is 2,000 mules.   Oh, okay. And so the we know the election was stolen. There's absolutely shed loads of evidence, but the FBI are kind of, damming it up. So they won't allow the prosecutions and the investigations to happen.   And a lot of corrupt judges were also blocking it as well. So there's mountains of evidence there. We know the election was stolen by the Democrats.  

And then, of course, on January,   what you have is you have the electors   who were voted for,   having to then the electors then,   go into congress,   and then they count the electors votes, and then that then   validates the   president who's president who's been elected,   which of course was, Biden.   So January 6 was a big deal because it was the rubber it was the authenticated stamp on Biden winning the election. And, of course, the Republican party and all the MAGA people, I go, were furious about that because they knew the election had been stolen.   So there obviously, there was gonna be massive crowds outside protesting.  

Trump, in view of this, he knew that there was gonna be, a lot of protests and everything. He actually said to Nancy Pelosi,   you need to get security.   And he offered security, and Nancy Pelosi rejected it. So, you know, if there's anybody who's responsible for the invasion of Capitol Hill, it's Nancy Pelosi, the head of the, Democrats.   And Trump said, you know, we have to protest, and we have to go up to the Capitol Hill. But he also said we need to do that peacefully, but that bit was cut out from all the media. So the media made sure that bit wasn't in the in the course. Yeah. And then, of course, there's lots of FBI,   agent provocateurs   in the crowd actually inciting people to invade the capital.  

And I think there's something like 18 or 20 FBI agents who names have never come out who were involved in that. And we had do a video videos of them doing it.   And then when people do invade the capital with the, Capitol Police waving them in, opening the doors for them. In some cases, I mean, they were smashing windows at one point, but there was also around the back. There was piece we're waving people into the capital.   So the people that came in were just wandering around and having a good old look around. There was no damage done.   Nobody was carrying weapons that was inside the building.  

And yet all those people were arrested and put in jail for four years.   Oh, wow. I didn't realize that. Okay. Yeah. I knew people were arrested, but not like the bystanders, so to speak. Yeah. Yeah. Several thousand of them. And they formed their own choir in the prisons. Yeah. So I mean, that and Trump's only just pardoned them. So they've only just got out all those   people. So yeah. So the capital was a demonstration against the fact that the election was stolen. The coup had happened on November the on November, you know, when the election and Biden got elected by the people. But he didn't because, you know, the people voted for Trump.   But it actually is part of Trump's Trump's   plan was   included all that. He knew that, you know, they were going to do everything they could to get Trump out in the first election. So he said, okay. We'll allow them to steal the election,   but we'll do as much as we can to make sure it's as obvious. But, obviously, the courts, the FBI, and everything gonna block it. So we'll allow Biden in. And then when Biden's in, we'll just watch the whole   socialist Democrat party do all the corrupt things that they do. And we'll just kind of flag it all up and and prepare for the next election   when we'll have an even bigger majority,   which will be,   too big to rig.  

So there's   too big. So actually   so now we come to 2024,   November the fifth election.   The support for Trump and MAGA is even bigger than in 2020.   The Democrats realized they can't actually cheat enough   to, stop Trump getting in for, you know, another time. So he gets in.   And then we have the inauguration   on the,   sixth of, well, we have the the electoral vote on the sixth, which went through without a problem. I really thought they were gonna try some shenanigans on the 01/06/2025,   but they didn't.   I don't think they could because,   the Republicans have the House and the Senate. So there was it was difficult for the   Democrats   to kind of stage anything to try and block,   Trump's   win being rubber stamped,   by Congress. So   the actual rubber stamping went through, which was a huge relief.  

And then on the twentieth, of course, he was inaugurated.   And then as soon as he's inaugurated,   he starts signing,   executive orders.   He was busy. Wasn't he? Straight away? He was busy. Oh my goodness. He had loads and loads of executive orders. Oh my goodness.   Yeah. And, and then he's got his team, which he then is putting forward to,   step in and manage the   his to be his cabinet.   And he's got some cracking people in there. Really, really good. I mean, it's   so it's so exciting. It's like the whole this whole,   Trump presidency   is what we would kinda hope for   in the first one and the second one. But because now he knows the whole system now. He knows it from the inside because he was president.  

He knows how Congress works. He know how DC works. He knows loads more people than he used to. He knows who's good, who's bad.   So this time, he goes in with huge amount of experience and knowledge   and knows   how how to play it, basically.   So he's   forcing,   the Republicans. There's still some corrupt Republicans   in there,   but he's kind of got them by the short and curlers.   And the and the way he's done that is he's he created Doge, which is,   this department that well, it's not department. It's it's,   group that Elon's,   excuse me, heading.  

Originally, it was gonna be with Kash Patel, but Kash Patel has actually gone off sorry.   Vivek Ramaswamy. It was gonna be Vivek Ramaswamy   and Elon heading up this department of government efficiency to investigate   all the corruption and the, and the way that the federal the fed,   federal government is spending all its money.   So it's like an audit of all the money in the departments   as a way of saving money. You know, where's all the waste? Can we what can we cut out? Because   The US is 33,000,000,000,000   in debt, and the debt's going up.  

So, eventually,   you know, it's going to all explode.  

[00:22:43] Unknown:

Is is there any country that is, like, in credit?  

[00:22:48] Unknown:

I don't know. I'm not sure. Most countries are in debt, aren't they?  

[00:22:51] Unknown:

Yeah. Every everyone. I've just seen them tonight. Like,   Cornwall County Council, how many million they're, like, £46,000,000   in debt. They're never gonna pay that back, but they've made   dire cuts, quite important things that they've cut out to try and save some money.  

[00:23:07] Unknown:

Yes.  

[00:23:09] Unknown:

So it's not physically respondable responsible, is it? You've got you've got,   money coming in through taxation and whatever, and then you've got spending going out. And the spending going out, there's no relation at all to the money coming in.   And yet you're still spending even more, you know. And that's why during the last four years, people could see this in The US. You know, they're giving, like, what, a hundred and 50,000,000,000   to   help Ukraine   in its fight against Russia   when they actually don't have the money. So they're actually gonna have to print it. And then they're giving money   left, right, and center all over the world. Not only that, they've also got terrible,   trade deficits,   where pea there's more goods being bought in than being sold to countries. Like and the big ones are China, obviously,   Canada, Mexico.  

And these are the ones that Trump has targeted with tariffs   because money is pouring out,   into towards into those countries from The US, and The US is not getting as much back.   So to balance the books, you've got to balance the trade between those countries and The US.   And so he's doing that through,   tariffs. And, of course, the other countries don't like that.   But   yes. So Trump's a deal maker. So he's he's gonna say to them, look, you know, you're not taking our goods. And a good example of this is is Europe with cars, for instance.   America   sells virtually no cars in in Europe at all,   But lots of European cars got sold in America. So that's a massive that's a trade imbalance.  

So Trump's basically saying, no. No. No. No. That that can't continue. That's not fair.   You know? So we need to balance it out. So,   yeah. So there's there's the tariffs. And, of course, it's steel that he's using and various other products and services with,   Canada and Mexico   and with,   and with,   China are the big ones. Now that will balance. That will stop a lot of the, the loss.   But there's loads of other money pouring out, leaking out in various directions that, Trump has to stop. So it's a bit like a dam with with a leaky dam where just water is pouring through this broken dam,   and Trump is basically filling in the holes,   and then things will balance out.  

Once because because the other thing is we're in this thing called a fiat money system.   And the fiat money system allows the central banks and banks to print money   for infinity.   And the money and that wasn't always the case. You know? The money wasn't you they couldn't do it. They they they wanted to do that.   In 1971,   they separated the gold from from the dollar.   And prior to that, because they were running out money and they wanted to spend more than they were than they had it coming in.   So they thought, well, okay. So if we create a fiat money system   where   the link between money and gold is broken, then we can just print as much as we like. We don't have to   have this have this balance.  

So   this system has got to breaking point now with 33,000,000,000,000   in debt in The US, and every other country has been doing the same.   How do you step out of that? You have to come back to sound money again where the dollar is linked to the amount of gold or something,   a resource in a, you know, in in the country.  

[00:26:37] Unknown:

So presumably, he's sorry. You said that he's gonna audit the, Federal Reserve.  

[00:26:43] Unknown:

Yes. So there's talk there's lots of talk about that at the moment, and the person that's being,   put forward is Ron Paul,   who's a libertarian and has been calling for the Fed risk to be, audited for decades.   So yes. But, of course, they're absolutely   terrified because it's a black box. Nobody can see inside the books of the Fed. So God knows what they've been doing.   And, of course, they've been doing stuff known that nobody can see what they're doing. So there's probably lots and lots of shady stuff going on in it in it.  

[00:27:15] Unknown:

Oh, I don't doubt it. Yeah.   Yeah. So the Well, that would be exciting. That would impress me if Trump went in and did that. I've I've been impressed by bits and bobs, but then I see other bits. I think,   I'm just not sure. Not sure. But that would I think the federal reserve, the banking   the banking system is behind just everything, isn't it? Really? I think it is. I've got a guy coming on, in a couple of weeks, John Hamer, who's gonna talk about just, you know, in detail about the banking system and how it works and stuff. But   Yeah. Just keep printing the money, and we'll stay in debt forever. It's just it's a principle,   isn't it? It's like, just keep some money. Start fresh. Wipe the slate clean.  



[00:27:55] Unknown:

So this is the interesting thing. So when you've got a system which can print as much money as it's like, it's spending   way beyond its means.   How do you get off that?   This is the challenge.   The only way you can get off a fiat money system   is that you've got to balance your trade.   It's absolutely primary. You have to balance your trade. Otherwise, whenever you start to link   your currency to an asset, like gold or whatever it happens to be, and there's talk about having Bitcoin as an asset   that you link your currency   to. Unless your   trade unless you if you still got running a deficit, you're still gonna get to the point where you're running out of money, and you need more money. And so the temptation is to come off and print more, and and then you're back into the fiat system again.  

So the only way to get off this fiat roundabout is you've got to balance trade. You've got to get your exports and your imports balanced. You've got to get your spending   equal to or less than your income.   It's the only way, and you have to do that before   you reapply   the link between   the money and the,   the reserve, whatever that is.   So this is why it's critical, and all countries are gonna have to do this. So all the countries   need to look at their outgoings and incomings,   their exports and imports, and they need to balance them.   And when all the countries have kind of done that, and it'll be the g 20 that does this. So the g 20 will be forced to do it.  

And all the governments have to be if they're not if the government isn't part of it, then that government's gonna, you know, financially, they're gonna go down the the tubes. Everybody's gonna have to do this together. The US, if The US is doing it, everybody has to do it.   So everybody balances their books,   which means slashing spending. So every country's got to slash it spending,   and every country's got to look at exports and imports and balance them.   Once that's done,   then the hot then all the countries can then say, right. We are linking   our money supply   to   our reserves,   which is the reserves you've got gold in the bank, you know, in the reserves or Bitcoin or now Germany did a bit of this when they were running hyperinflation,   and they   created they actually had to do it in a two step process. So their currency was in hyperinflation.  

So that means the value of the   the mark was absolutely collapsing.   The way they did it was that they created a new currency,   which was linked to all of the,   what is it? The,   properties.   All the property and the,   land assets. So it was linked to that   because they didn't have gold or anything else to link it to.   And they had to do it twice because the first one didn't quite,   hold. So the second time they did it, it did hold, and they were able to stop the hyperinflation.   But that's where we will be. You know, we will be the whole world will have been hyperinflation   unless we do this.  

Yeah. So that's that's the whole that that's the financial switch that we're about to do.   This is why Trump is talking about   having a Bitcoin strategic reserve.   They're being a bit quiet on gold, but gold is being bought big time by China, and India, and the BRICS nations, and various others.   We're in The UK is in a terrible state because we have Brown's bottom, which was where Gordon Brown sold about 50%   of the gold, reserves in The UK.   And nobody can understand why, and he hasn't been able to explain it.   But we we have got really, really bad gold reserves.  

There's no talk about Bitcoin reserve.   But all the countries are gonna start   asking themselves now we need to have a Bitcoin reserve because The US is doing it.   So it's a really exciting time. It's very exciting time for cryptocurrency because cryptocurrency is just like,   you know,   Yeah. Trump's very bullish on it. And, and it is a limited asset. There's only 21,000,000 Bitcoin. That's it. So it's it's a very,   transparent.   It's very transparent.   Everybody can see, you know, who's got what. When you say there's only 21,000,000,000  

[00:32:23] Unknown:

Bitcoin,   what do you mean by that? There can never be any more that's at the start. Sorry. I've never really got on board with the whole cryptocurrency.  

[00:32:31] Unknown:

Yeah. So for instance, let's say you let's say there's three people in this universe. There's me, you, and somebody else. And we've all got our wallets, our Bitcoin wallets. And we've all got,   let's say we've all got 10.   K?   And I can buy stuff with it. We can all buy stuff with it.   Now, let's imagine another person comes in and says, I would like some Bitcoin.   Can I buy some off you? And we might say, yeah. We'll sell a bit to you. We'll we'll give some Bitcoin to you. And they say, yeah. But can't you print some more?   So what we could say, well, hang on a second. If we print some more Bitcoin,   what does that do to our Bitcoin?  

Right. It makes it less valuable. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So all three of us, are we going to allow   anybody to print some more Bitcoin?   No.   So that's it. So that that's the way it works. So there is there there are millions of people with Bitcoin wallets all over the world.   If they want to print more Bitcoin or if somebody wants more Bitcoin printed, they're gonna have to issue that change the software,   but they've also got to get every single person who has a wallet to accept that new wallet update.  

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Okay.  

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And nobody's gonna do it.   No one who's got Bitcoin. No one's gonna lose money. To accept an update which dilutes the Bitcoin.   Yeah. So when we say there's 21,000,000 Bitcoin and that's it,   that is it.   The software's never going to be edited to have any more than 21,000,000 Bitcoin.  

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Yeah. Okay.   So, I mean,   Bitcoin, I know we've talked about it loads of times before in crypto. I do really struggle getting my head around it. So who created   the Bitcoin then?  

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So the original,   there was a paper, white paper produced by a guy who euphemistically   called himself Satoshi Nakamoto. We don't know who he is.   And   and then that white paper got read by other geeks, and they thought, blime, this is pretty good. We'll have to do this. And they got together, and they all,   he actually wrote the software as well, this this guy. And then they looked at it, and they tweaked it, and then they issued it, and then they started mining it, which is by having a computer, which then creates the coins.   So this guy, Satoshi Nakamoto, put the 21,000,000   as a hard limit   right at the beginning.  

And since then, that's been it. And, more and more people have basically gotten wallets,   created miners, which support the network, and and   and create the blocks in which the transactions go.   And it's and that was in 2010, I think. Something something like that.   And as more and more people have got in,   of course, initially, it had no value. So it was just a token that had no connection with anything until,   one person said, well, how much is this Bitcoin worth? How about if,   could you buy me a pizza?   You buy me a pizza, and then I'll give you some Bitcoin.   And that was the first transaction.  

Well, transaction that linked to the real, you know, the real world.   I think it was 26,000   Bitcoin for one pizza, I think it was.   And that was like, and then from there, it kind of yeah. It kinda got more and more popular, and eventually, here we are. Bitcoin is now worth not, you know, 20¢.   It's now worth a hundred thousand dollars each.   And all of the countries around the world are now looking at it as a strategic reserve.   And   and even every state in The US   is considering having a Bitcoin reserve for each state. All the corporations are looking at it have it as a hedge.   Billionaires have got into it. Every every all the financial,   analysts are saying every every rich person should have 2% of their assets in crypto in Bitcoin.  

So it's just it's just snowballed.  

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And this is all basically digital banking, isn't it?  

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It is. And and the reason it's got this this trust in it is because it hasn't been hacked, you know. It's been running Yes. Since 2010. There's not and it's never gone down. It's actually more,   stable than the swift,   you know, credit card system.   And, and it's got trillions. It's worth 2,000,000,000,000. All the Bitcoin at the moment is worth about 2,000,000,000,000, and nobody's been able to hack it. So it's extremely resilient.   And because it has that, it's building a lot of trust.   And if, obviously, if you're gonna put buy a billion dollars worth of Bitcoin, you wanna really trust the system. So   it's built that trust up now. So it's just a question of more and more companies and corporations and governments getting involved in it. Cost initially, it was resistance because I knew that where there was this going, they knew this would this potentially would become the,   you know, the world reserve currency. And they didn't want they didn't wanna lose control because they wanted their fiat system where they could print as much money as they want.  

Bitcoin, you can't do that.   So every every penny, every, you know, bit of Bitcoin has to be accounted for. Can't just print a load if you're a bit short.   Shame. Yeah.   So coming back to Doge.   So one of the things Elon Musk is is basically looking at, he's saying, how can we make   all federal   transactions, federal government transactions, how can we make them all transparent to the people? So the people   can see where the government is spending its money. And one of the ideas   is that,   maybe the federal government should use cryptocurrency.   All the wallets would be transparent. Everybody could see where the money's going. Nothing could be hidden, and you can't print the money.  

So it has to all be accounted for. And it would naturally be, you know, everybody could check it. You wouldn't have to do an audit, because it was all there all the time for people to see. Yeah.   So at the moment, Doge is having to deal with this   very opaque   system,   and find out where all the money's been going. And, of course, one of the first things that they knew USAID was a bit of a shady operation.   It has a budget of 55,000,000,000.   And, they thought, well, where's the what are they doing with the 55,000,000,000?   So   Elon Musk was charged with   going in with some very young,   bright people and going through the the books, basically.  

And Trump gave gave them the authority to do this.   And, and so they've come up with   a whole list of horrendous   things that the,   USAID has been doing. And so the Democrats and the corrupt Republicans are freaking out. They are absolutely panicking because their whole,   gravy train is now coming to an end. It's being exposed.   And and and USAID is just the start. This is the thing. So that they they know they're in deep, deep trouble,   as all this information pulls out.   And just as one little example, I mean, there's quite a few on the Internet. If you look up,   USAID corruption   or money laundering and just follow the rabbit hole down that down that road,   you'll see just crazy crazy stuff. I mean, there was lots of DEI stuff where there was,   you know, million going towards some   trans opera down in Bolivia or wherever it was, you know, or some or something. It was just just bizarre   bizarre payments.  

One one of the ones was that, there was 200,000,000,   given to NGOs, cost these non governmental organizations.   And then they were forwarding the money on   to,   Palestine,   in aid, you know, under the auspices of aid.   But actually, it was being funneled,   towards Hamas. And then they were basically buying cement factories and then using it   to build tunnels.   So it's just like, where's the where's the accountability?   Or where where, you know, how do you make that transparent so people can stop that from happening?   So there's   there's a whole web. So money so taxpayers money goes into USAID, which is a government   agency.  

That agency   is   populated   by,   corrupt,   socialist   people who have got who yeah. I don't know how   knowingly corrupt some of them are.   But then they're funneling. They're creating these bogus or stupid,   projects,   finding these NGO agencies   who are saying they're gonna do x, y, and zed, sending them millions and billions.   And then there's no kind of accounting for that. And then that money just flows   into all these very shady and corrupt,   organizations around the world. So and it's 55,000,000,000. I mean, we complain about Soros. You know, George Soros,   we know,   has been funding all sorts of nefarious schemes, you know, to cause problems in lots in lots of western countries.  

And how much is he worth? Well, he's worth probably about 80,000,000,000, maybe   50,000,000,000.   Don't know. What do you think?   It's a lot. A nice a nice amount. Yeah. Nice amount. The USA gets 55,000,000,000   a year.   It's like a George Soros every year.   Yeah. Yeah. It's mind boggling. And so that money is just being used.   Yeah. And   so   so so Trump,   Department of Government Efficiency,   Trump gets Elon. So it's gonna have a look at USAID. So they go in through the database and the financial system,   which Trump pays them permission to do as a read only. Not they're not can't alter the   financial database.  

And then they're going in there, and then they're just finding all sorts of horrendous,   waste.   And then they decide it's so corrupt. It's so much waste that actually, let's just shut USA   down. So that's what they've done. They've actually literally just taken the signs off the building, locked the doors,   and all payments are stopped.   And that basically is the end of 55,000,000,000   a year going into the deep state   like that.  

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Crikey.  

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And that's just the the media.   That's the opening salvo. That's just the that's not even the main one.   That's just the start.   Yeah. So the next place,   Doge is gonna go, he's gonna go into FEMA, which has also got huge allegations of corruption.   He's gonna go into the Pentagon and audit the whole of the Department of Justice,   which is what? 800,000,000,000   a year?   And then   health, I mean, it's and,   Medicaid, medicaid,   aid, and I mean, it's just yeah. This is just the beginning. This is going to get bigger and bigger and bigger.   And the the Western media, well, the,   BBC and   the other media in in Europe and that, they are trying not to report it at the moment.  

They They are trying not to report it, which is why you're not seeing it very much talked about.   But if you go on,   Fox News or you look on x or any of these other free speech platforms,   it's   getting noticed.   And even the Liberals out in America are   kind of, having their eyes opened as to how bad it's been. And of course, it's taxpayers money.   You know, it's not   it's it's people's money. Where should that people money should be going? It should be going to help, you know, impoverished people in The US, not   200,000,000   to   cement comp mixing companies to help Hamas build tunnels in  

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yeah. Well, it's like our money that goes towards the council tax, isn't it? With well known, you look into it, that they help fund money that goes towards walls and stuff like that.   Yes. You know? There's a I think there's that clause, isn't it, for people that don't wanna pay their,   council tax that are fighting it under that   Yep.   Regime, basically, that my council tax is certain amount is going towards funding wars and stuff like that. So  

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Yes. Yeah.   Yeah. Yeah. I've heard people basically,   writing letter to the council saying,   I am no longer the occupier.   I'm paying my last month's   bill,   and then that's it.   And so then the council says, okay. You're no longer you're no longer the occupier. So they then send a letter to the house saying,   can the can the new occupier   please register so that we can get claim our council tax? I'm not getting a reply.   And and then people turn up at the door saying, where's, you know, who's the occupier? And the person who is the occupier well, who's not the occupier. The person who's living there basically says,   I don't know who that is.  

And I'm not the occupier. I'm just a housekeeper.   So we're all housekeepers.   We're not occupiers.   And when you, you know, when we see our name written on a piece of paper,   I don't know that. That's not me.   I'm I'm me.   That   capitalized name or whatever it is with a mister in front of it. That's I don't know who that is. I have no idea who that is, but I'm not the occupier. I'm just the housekeeper.   And there's nothing that they can do.   It's yeah. It's fraudulent. And the other I mean, because we all know where their their council tax money. No. It doesn't go to the council.   It's it's a crazy system, isn't it?  

So, yeah, people have had enough. People especially with, rates going up and up.  

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I think it's due to go up another 4.40.9%   again in April. Yes.  

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Yeah. Yeah. That's it. And then they say, oh, we're we're gonna take you to a magistrate's court. Well and then when you get there, you find that actually it's not a magistrate's court.   It's just a room with a judge that's been paid for by the council. So he's not independent.   So he's immediately committing,   you know, a crime because he's not actually an independent judge. He's a paid   yeah. The whole thing's, yeah, completely fraudulent. I think they I heard that there was, an investigation,   being   done by the judiciary   into magistrates and council courts.  

So that'll be very interesting.   Because if they find out what we all know that they're actually fraudulent courts,   what are they gonna do then? Are they gonna say, oh, the whole, you know, council tax fraud, court system is actually   a fraud.  

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Yeah. Then everyone would stop paying, wouldn't they? I mean, I don't mind paying a certain amount. I really don't, but I don't like paying for things like going towards funding walls. And they've got you I know quite a few people that don't pay, and I just think you're so brave.   I've started the process a couple of times, then I'd a court letter within   we, within a month, literally. They're working even quicker now than what they used to before you get to that stage.   But, for me, it was like, do you know what? I'm not in the right place to be fighting this, having bailiffs turned at my door. And, you know, I I guess it. When people know, when they stand in their power and they know what to say,   they can win that fight. I believe it. But then I also think   Too scary. Because if if you wanted to get a mortgage and stuff, then you might have a CCJ over you, and you're not gonna be able to get a mortgage. Yeah. So you're either kind of in the system or out the system, aren't you? So Yes. That's right. They've Yeah. They've got you by the short and curlies, definitely. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Temporarily,  

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I think in some ways, we need to try   and, again, do what   Trump's doing in The US, which is balance the box. We need to try and get ourselves. So our expenditure is to no more than our income,   that our, and our assets.   And,   wherever we are and there are ways of doing it. Like, if,   if somebody has got a lot of debt, like, £10,000 of debt or something in a credit card, you can you can write to them. You can say to them, I'm unable to pay this.   Freeze it,   and then you just open an account somewhere else. Do you do that before you send the letter. And then   while that's frozen,   you just get on and live your life and just forget about the other thing. In six years, you're allowed to write it off. Yeah. Yeah. In six years, you can just say with no contact, you have to have no contact with them.  

You can basically say that's it's now void.  

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I think there's eight companies that I pay a pound a month to, and I have done for, like, four fourteen month fourteen years. Yes. And I get the old phone call. Can you still afford that pound a month, miss Tasker? Yes. Just about.   But Yeah. I mean, I could save up x amount and say, oh, I've been gifted this.   Distribute   it   between, like, my eight debts   and Yep. Take take that payment, and they will write it off.   But I was, yeah, heavily in debt. And, you know, when I broke up from my marriage, me and my ex both took about 25   worth each on credit cards.  

Right? It was like, you know, you don't go to find I know. It's stick it on you're surviving  

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day to day and you're just going, yeah, and you'll just continue. It can build up and it creeps up on you, doesn't it? It's it's sort of Yeah. Never again. But people don't know, do they? When you see people commit suicide over debt and stuff like that, it's like, you know, at the end of the day, if you haven't got it, they can't have it, haven't they? No. And what you could do is as I said before, you instead of giving them £1 a month,   it's kinda better in some ways to write them and say, I can't pay you anything, unfortunately. I will get in touch when I can.   And then you cease all communication.  

And then you've got a six year wait before you can write it off. But then it's written off completely,   and then there's nothing more to do. And if you get a CCJ against you, then that itself will   expire after six years. I think it's six years. Yeah. But yeah. You can check that. That. But that is one way of getting yeah.  

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Yeah. So that's that's one And I think there's so many people in debt. I mean, my daughter's a five mortgage adviser, and she says, you see these people come in, apply for mortgages.   They've got good jobs, etcetera, etcetera. But then when they get out the figures,   they all like living on the credit cards. We all like living beyond our means, I suppose, don't we? Yeah. But then everything is so expensive. So Yes. Anyway And that's got calls. They're printing money.   Yeah. Yeah.   So we've got about ten minutes left, Howard. Yeah. Yeah. Do you wanna where do you wanna go? Do you wanna go health? Do you wanna go astrology?  

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I wanna stick with The US because I really think people want to, particularly people should be looking at Doge because I think Doge is getting huge. And I also there was another thing recently.   What was it?   Who's oh my god. My brain sometimes my brain goes back. I'm slightly dyslexic. So They all menopause. Yeah. It's okay.   I know how you feel. Farage. That's it. Ta da. Great stuff. It came to me. Nigel Farage. Nigel Farage came out recently and made a tweet saying, basically,   we all need a Doge.   We all need a DOJ.   And he's saying, we need a Doge for The UK.  

We need department of government efficiency for The UK, and we need to audit   all of the agencies. Here's a here's an interesting question. How many agencies do you think there are in The US?  

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Let's get Cool. Haven't got a clue.  

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About 380.   And Elon reckons we could probably knock that down to about a hundred.  

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We actually need a start. Yeah.  

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So that's good.   And then,   and then how many I mean, these NGOs, they're all real kind of like complex web to kinda obfuscate where the money's going. How many NGOs do you think there are in The US?   These nongovernmental   organizations.   It's an insane   number.   It's about 1,500,000.  

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Oh, wow.  

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Yeah. Okay. And let's say only 10% of those are nefarious. So that's still a 50,000   corrupt NGO NGOs if you   if it's 10%.   So there's there's a massive web of corruption. So it's really complex. So they've got some really bright brains anyway looking into all of the money laundering.   One of so that's the thing. Doge. Have to look at Doge and also USAID. Look at Doge and USAID and go down that red hole. Really, really worth worth doing it.   In terms of Trump's cabinet, we've got Peter Hegseth,   defense secretary in the Pentagon. He got rid of all the DEI in the in the, military forces.   They're gonna audit the Pentagon, which is gonna be absolutely   monumental because then we'll see all the money going to all the different,   military operations that none of us really wanted money going there. We've got Tulsi Gabbard was   she was actually voted on today. So she's the head of the director of National Intelligence.  

She was labeled a terror threat   by the Democrats. So she's going to investigate   why the   Democrats labeled her, put her on the on the terror watch list. They were laboring as as a Russian plant.   So that's the first thing she's gonna be doing today.   Russell Voigt, he's he's in charge of management and budget responsibility. So he's gonna be working with,   Elon and the Doge team to cut waste and investigate where all the money's been going.   Pam Bondi is she's the attorney general. So she's head of the justice department. So she's kicking ass at the moment.   They're marking all the judges,   the corrupt judges.  

And the only way to get rid of a corrupt judge is to impeach them. So there are going to be lots and lots of   impeachments of judges coming up, which is gonna be really, really good because, obviously,   that cause a lot of problems. Kash Patel. Now there's two which haven't come through yet. Kash Patel and Robert f Kennedy junior.   Kash Patel is gonna be head of the FBI,   and that's probably the biggest one because the FBI are blocking   so many,   investigations.   We have Hunter Biden's laptop,   which was absolutely full of corruption. We've got the Clintons.   We've got,   obviously, the January   with all the, agent provocateurs, which were FBI agents   that actually facilitated the invasion and,   caused that,   false flag.  

So and there's loads of corrupt FBI agents, and they're high up. They need to be removed. And then loads of prosecutions can then happen. Prosecutions can't happen while the FBI, Cropped FBI is there. And then Robert f Kennedy, he's going to expose the whole,   corruption with the medical,   revolving door between the CDC,   and the,   Big Pharma.   So that's that's gonna be fascinating. So that's those are the main   part of the tip of the spear really going into all these areas that, Trump's team is doing. And it's it's it's going at lightning speed at the moment.   Very exciting. There's obviously the war with Ukraine and Russia.  

There's negotiations going on there, which is quite good, where America might get,   some   minerals in exchange for the support that they've given to Ukraine.   And,   and then doing some kind of two person,   management of Ukraine because Ukraine is still massively corrupt, hugely corrupt, and they've got to get rid of the corrupt,   mafia at the top of in Ukraine.   And then, of course, there's,   taking out the,   the whole Gaza area and and leveling it. And and what do you do with the Gaza people? Egypt don't want them because the Palestinians cause trouble in Egypt.   Jordan don't want them because the Palestinians cause trouble in Jordan.  

Palestinians cause trouble wherever they go. So there's gotta be some way of getting the Palestinians out of Gaza   into areas where they can't cause trouble.   They can then go through every Gazan and get out all of the Hamas people, and then fill in all the tunnels, and then redevelop.   So that's what Trump's trying to do, and he's trying to get the he's not doing. He wants the,   Middle Eastern countries to do it on his behalf.   And he's having to negotiate with all of the Middle Eastern countries to try and get a deal where they will get in and they will sort it all out. Once once Gaza is removed as a as a   problem,   then that's   that annihilates one of the deep states, you know, forever wars.  

And the money is being sucked out of the deep state through things like the USAID being closed and various others coming down. All the money is being removed from the deep state,   and they're absolutely panicking about it. And all all the the walls and the corruption and everything, all the bribery money, it's all going. It's all gonna be gone.   There's gonna be lots of whistleblowers coming out who are no longer bribed, who are no longer getting bribes. And,   yeah, it's it's all collapsing. A whole deep state of collapsing before our eyes. We've got, basically, I reckon two years,   it's gonna be an absolute whirlwind whirlwind.  

And the real point I'm looking at is July 2026 when the America has its two hundred and fiftieth anniversary.   I think they're staging that as a major milestone.   And,   yeah, Trump has told,   Robert f Kennedy he wants,   the   a lot of the cleanup of the corruption within the CDC and big pharma done by July   2026.   There's a lot of things which are timed for July, August '20 '20 '6. So it's gonna be a major milestone.  

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Well, that's not long, is it? July 20 that's only next year. No. That's right.   Oh,  

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right. Well, watch this next America. America is ground zero. It's where it's all gonna start, and every country is going to want to copy what America's done.   Yep.  

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Well, I thank you as always, Howard. It's always That's right. I love it. Like I said, it's long overdue.   I know it's only been a few months, but, Yeah. I've needed to talk to you since, you know, when I think that, you've been coming on and off now for, what, four years. I've been doing the show now nearly five years.   And, listen to some of the old shows about your predictions and what's gonna happen. And when I think four years ago when he didn't get voted in and now he's back in, where's that time gone? But It's amazing. He's explained by, isn't it? And we survived. I, you know, there's a lot of questions whether the world would survive with Biden, but we did. Yeah. Yeah.   No. It was great. Well, thank you so much for your time, my lovely.  

And where can people find you, Howard?  

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So they can find me on x mostly. I'm on Facebook as well. Howard Corman on x. Howard Corman just searched my name and, yeah, on one of those two of those platforms.  

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So you still haven't got your own Rumble channel yet yet then?  

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I do I do have a Rumble channel. Yeah. I do have a Rumble channel. If you just search my name on Rumble, you're you're Have you posted on it? Do you post it? Yeah. Yeah. I've got a couple of posts. In fact,   William   Kite, the, the The UK constitution,   guy. So I've recorded a couple of his talks, and I've posted them up   on how cool I'm getting political. So I'm on there on that one, but, yes, I still need to work harder at getting my social media.   Come on. You need to do it again. Profile. Oh, bless you. Yeah. Well, thank you again, my lovely, and, we'll catch up again real soon. Yeah. Great stuff. Will do. And a lot gonna happen. Oh my god. Yeah. Great stuff.  

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Alright, my lovely. You take care, and I'll speak to you soon. Thanks, Howard.   Right. That brings us to the end of part one. I'm gonna play a   quick song,   and then I will be back after   with mister Malefika Scott,   for part   two. Right. So let's just   pop a song on one of my old favorite songs this is, and I'm running   running to the toilet.  

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as free as the wind   blows,   as free as the grass   grows,   born free   to follow your heart.  

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free   and beauty   surrounds you.   The world still astounds   you.   It's time   you look at a star.  

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when no walls   divide   you. You're free as a roaring tide, so there's no need to  

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Love it. Love it. Love it. Right.   Mister   Scott is here.   Let's get oh.   Frightness   all around.   Mister Scott, your little red mute thing's on.   And your camera's not switched on.   Come on. You can't leave me here by myself.   Oh, come on. It was working alright for Howard. It was working.   Right. You just you know the drill. Let me just check.   Born free.   As long as the wind blows.   Oh, did you watch that film?   Oh, it's called Born Free, wasn't it? Sorry about this, people. Just wondering   where Mister Scott is.   Right. Uncanny. Things never work when you want them to. And I've just had to get a jumper. I'm so cold. We've got upstairs and it's absolutely boiling. Apparently, the radiator's   jammed on.  

Oh, right. Maleficus is back.   Okay. You need to press a couple of bot buttons bottoms.  

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Hello. Are you here? Oh, god.   Oh, look. I know how to work it. There I am.  

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I hear you. I see you, and you look like an air pilot.  

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Do I?   You do, mister Scott. Is your microphone on your headset? He will be flying at roughly 32,000  

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feet. And, yes. I hope you enjoy that. When you   do you do all of that when you game? Do you have to do like that? No. We're not that  

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sad.  

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Alright. I think it would be really cool. A bit of role play.  

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Yeah. Well, yeah, my role play. My Dungeons and Dragon days are well over.   Did you used to play that as well? Oh, I used to love that when I was a kid.   Yeah. Pure escape I don't really get that. I don't really get it. Dungeons and Dragons. A really easy way to explain it. Right?   Greetings,  

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listeners, by the way. Sorry, everybody. Mister mister Scott has joined us for part two. Yes. Hello.  

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Yeah. Very nice to be back.   So really easy way to explain Dungeons and Dragons is, do you remember when you were a kid, you used to get those books? Like, they were called fighting fantasy books. I think it was when we were kids. And you'd read a story and you'd get to a certain bit, and it would say, if you want to do this, turn to page 26. If you want to do this, turn to page 47.   And you got to choose your way through the book.   Well,   Dungeons and Dragons was kind of exactly like that,   only you weren't limited to choices in a book. You could do whatever you want, and there's a set of game rules   that   help govern what the outcomes may or may not be to whatever choices you make. So that it's simply   pure escapism. It's like writing a story with a group of friends. Outcomes may or may not be Sorry. I've got,  

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the the other side running. Right. It's gone. It's gone.  

[01:06:08] Unknown:

It's gone. No. I mean, something a story with a group of friends. It's, it's pure escapism, and that's what was so fun about it as a kid. But,   you know, as I've said so many times in recent years,   reality is far stranger than anything you can make up.  

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It is. It is.   Yeah. Yeah. So, anyway, how are you?  

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I'm good. I'm good. I am,   oh, I am currently,   this week, on a three day week. How nice is that?  

[01:06:40] Unknown:

How nice is that? You've given yourself time off?  

[01:06:44] Unknown:

No. Well, look. Here's the thing. Right? I hate.   Right. One of the worst things in the world, and this is this is as close as I'll probably get to a ramp this week, but one of the things I really hate in the world, right, is having your day organized for you. Yeah? So,   like, for instance,   I get up in the morning. I know if it's a working day, the first thing I'm gonna have to do is fly out of bed because I don't like getting up super early. I have to fly out of bed, have a cup of tea or coffee, whatever, go and take the dog for a walk, rush around while my missus gets everything sorted, and then yeah. And we go off, and we we do our thing. Whatever.   And then I get back, and then, of course, the dog is walking in. And then on days off, it's things like, well, you do realize we've gotta go to the dump today, or you do realize,   you know, this needs doing in the garden, or your daughter needs picking up from here and such and such. And suddenly, you realize it's pointless making plans because everything around you governs what you have to do,   and you have to make time for yourself. So I hate, like, I hate the fact that so my missus,   she's a brilliant organizer,   and she has to have everything organized.  

Whereas I prefer to be   I suppose, more   spontaneous.   Like,   one of the places that we work that we go and do work at,   it's such a big area of land that,   you know, I can sort of walk in one day and go, do you know what? I'm gonna tackle that today.   But my other half can't do it. She likes to know what she's gonna be doing beforehand or or whatever. So she's a great organizer, and she's a great planner of things,   which normally involves what I thought was going to be free time on a day off.   Do you get what I'm saying? You hate having your time planned away for you, but I have to say my missus has just sorted it so that at the very most,   I'm from now going to be working a four day week and having one day a week in the studio doing music.  

So I have to   I have to say,   I hate my time being organized, but on this occasion,   I'm really thankful.  

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Really. I can't do it. Bad, though? I don't know. Because you have to pencil time in for yourself.   Yes. You do. You do, you know, I like to have a day. I always find that well, it's been nearly two months now since I was doing that other job, and I'm busier now than I've ever been. But every day, there's something  

[01:09:05] Unknown:

that we need to do somewhere. As a homeowner or someone having to pay rent or as a parent   or just simply owning a pet or something. There's always something.   You know? Or the the tires need replacing on the car or or or, you know, there's always something.  

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So Always.  

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Which is why I understand why my other half is is a great planner.   And I tend to think if I plan ahead too much,   it's like wishing my life away. Oh, crikey. We're up to next month already. What am I gonna do? I haven't got any free time. Do you know what I mean? And that's Yeah. Yeah. So,   but I'm so thankful   of her organizational skills. So it's it's a double edged coin, isn't it? Really? It's a double edged sword. But yeah.   So I have to say half to the missus.   I'm on a four day week from now on. Well, it's not one day to you, missus. Week. Yeah. Pretty much. Because, you know, when I first went self employed, as you know, I lost my job because I didn't I refused to have the jab, blah blah blah blah blah.   And,   for those listeners that don't know, I worked for a care company, one of the largest care companies in The UK,   as a gardener. I was the only person in my department,   And,   I didn't come into contact with anyone, and they still kicked me out for not having the the shot put in my arm. So I went self employed. And, of course, as you well know, when you first go self employed, you think, oh, crikey.  

I've got a mortgage, and I've got food and, you know, bills to pay.   And so   literally every job I had, I was like, taking on? Yeah. I'll be with you that day. Yeah. I'll be with you that day. I'll be with you that day. And this went on, and then suddenly you get a load of people going, well, can you come back next week? And you're like, oh, crikey. No. I'm I'm I'm booked up till next month.   Because you you basically panic by customers when you first go self employed.   Do you know what I mean? You sell yourself short, and you get as many as you can. And then suddenly,   everything well, for me, everything kind of went awry. And it was my missus that turned around and said, give me your diary. Let me just have a look through it, and let me just sort it out. And there you go. So,   again, she's she's pulled a blinder. So Fridays now   are studio day.  

How good is that? Lush. Lovely. Lovely. Really good. Really good. I just have to be careful not to get too many thorns and splinters in my fingers in the meantime   on the other   three or four days of the week.   So   so, yeah, that's me.  

[01:11:33] Unknown:

I've,   well, it's been, like I said, nearly two months. And, hopefully, my DBS will come back, and I can get out and do some hours because I haven't been   overly busy at all. I don't think you are in January as a photographer.   I've got a wedding booked up and stuff, but it's not enough   to float. You know, I've managed two months, but   I am I need to bring some money in now. But I have, like, made several jokes jokes to Darren. I do say, well, you know, like, he's come in this week and dinner's on the table.   His lunch is prepared for the next day. I'm like,   this could be like this every day, Darren.  



[01:12:06] Unknown:

I said, I could have a It won't wash. It won't wash at all. Never wash the thing. Little   I could have a little  

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Tupperware party once a month like my mum used to do for a bit of pin money, and I'll just clean the house and walk the dog. And   he just laughs when I tell him. He goes,  

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changes the subject. Yeah. I I have to say I have to say in this modern world where women are expected to work, get out there. Get out there and do it. I'm joking. I'm joking. No. We're not. No. It's an ideal world for me. It is balance work life balance. I mean, it's so important   for me. We are anyone watching on video, I'm always like this. We're always like this. Like, my hand is up to my chin for those radio listeners. We're always like that with money.   But what do you work for? Would you not, as my missus said, would you not rather work one less day a week and just spend less money on junk?   I'm like, actually, yeah.  

That's probably one of the reasons why dry January was so easy. Crikey.  

[01:13:08] Unknown:

Maleficus, it was easy because you drank, like, three nights a week. No. I didn't. I'm doing yes. You did. You were like I didn't. I drank a lot of dry January.   And a Wednesday night.  

[01:13:19] Unknown:

The Wednesday the one Wednesday night I came on a show with you. You won't let me live that long with you. I'm doing dry January, but I'm drinking on a Wednesday, and I'm drinking on Friday. Well, it's not bloody dry January, is it? No. I drunk I drunk on a Friday and one Wednesday when I came on the show with you.   So now we're in February. Are you back to drinking every night? No. I'm not. No. I'm I'm actually on a thermos full of fruit tea most nights.  

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Nice.  

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Well What's what's happened to you, old boy? Well, I'll tell you what's happened.  

[01:13:49] Unknown:

After not drinking quite so often, my tolerance has gone through the floor. And now after about four beers, I'm, like, you know, I'm   starting to get ready for bed.   You know? And I find it just cuts my night short now. So   and, you know, and I'm not being funny. I do a physical job.   And,   wow, crikey. You know, I I've lost I've lost a lot of excess   poundage, if you like. Some love handles.   I wouldn't call them love handles. Not quite. But, yeah, I've got my six pack back. I'm quite happy. Good.   I've always been quite lean anyway, but, you know, yeah. I've got my six pack back nearly.  

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Just about. Love to give it to you about. One week.   Get the lady listeners watching.  

[01:14:38] Unknown:

Yeah. But I might blind you. My body my body hasn't seen the sun for years. I'm a gardener.  

[01:14:45] Unknown:

Oh,   sunshine.  

[01:14:48] Unknown:

God, I need it. Yeah. It's a beautiful day today. Absolutely stunning day today down here in Cornwall.   Absolutely beautiful.   No wind,   absolutely crystal clear blue skies where I was, and just a pleasure. Just it was a bit cold, and I had my hands in a river, which was roughly two degrees, three degrees earlier, which was just not nice at all.   But,   you know, you gotta take the reference to smooth.   You have. You have. Definitely. I do so many interesting jobs.   I don't just garden and weed flower beds and stuff. I I get to take part in so many interesting projects. I've been working with waterways and aqueducts and,   building dams and   diverting things and and restoring   stuff. And, oh, it's just so much fun. I built a giant chessboard a couple of months back, which was great fun.  

And,   the next project   the next project   is a sculpture being made out   of rounds of wood. You know, when a tree's been cut down and it gets cut into rounds. Yeah. She's got a big stack of these things, and she just wants a really obscure   sort of what I would call an impossible sculpture   made in the middle of one of the sections of her garden. So I'm literally gonna make it look like this   it'll be completely sturdy and completely   safe, but it'll look like it shouldn't be standing up. It'll be going off in all directions with all these wood rounds. And, yeah, that'd be good fun. I get involved in so many interesting little problem solving projects. So   keeps me busy. Keeps me busy. Keeps me mentally active, which is really,   really important.  

So how about you? How are you getting on with Hellstorm?   Because that was the last time I spoke to you.  

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Oh. Well, do you know? My reading time is generally   after tea. After tea, the dishes are put away, I get a cup of tea, and I sit in my reading corner in my chair Mhmm. And I read.   I've got to the part. So we've done Dresden.   Okay? I've learned an awful lot about that. Well, we're coming up to tomorrow is the anniversary. Tomorrow is the anniversary. Yep. So yeah. And   so I've been watching a few bits and bobs on that. And now it's moved on to I can't remember the next place they went to after Dresden,   but,   where they've had to flee across all the ice.  

All the Germans are being chased across the ice and just   harrowing.  

[01:17:13] Unknown:

Yeah. Harrow. Yeah. But, I mean, the thing is you have to appreciate from the Russians' point of view, this was a a grand patriotic war. The the Germans had invaded.   The Russians   Russian public weren't necessarily told   that operation barber you know, operation   Barbarossa was sorry. I'm jumping ahead of myself now. So they the Russian public weren't necessarily told that it was the Russian government's intention to wade into Germany   after Germany was weakened on the other front,   you know, on their on their,   Eastern front.  

So they were gonna wade into   West Germany, and everything everything was lined up ready for them to roll in.   So the Russian public weren't they they just saw the German act as a a massive German act of aggression purely because,   obviously, remembering that there was a   a the pact of steel that was signed between Germany and Russia   revolving the around the division of Poland   when Poland was invaded at the very beginning of the war.   Obviously, England and and all the, quote, unquote, allies had said, if if Germany invades Poland, then we will be in a state of war. So to sort of safeguard that,   von Ribbentrop, who we'll hear about later in a little Cornish story,   von Ribbentrop, who was, Germany's Ambassador, went over to Russia, and they   they signed the pact of steel, which basically said no aggression between Russia and Germany. And when Poland's invaded, we'll divide it down the middle so nobody can say anything.  

Yes.   We the the allies   kindly forgot about all that. So but bearing on so what I'm saying is is that not only did they   partake in that, but also,   in 1941,   the Russians were ready to roll straight into Germany   as soon as it was they deemed it weak enough because Germany was already fighting a war, France, you know, Belgium, all that kind of thing.   So,   and with Britain.   So   they'd lined up all their troops along the German borders, all their tanks, all their aircraft, which were antique, you know, antique anyway.   All this stuff was lined up across German borders. So when the Germans so let's put it to you this way, Shelley. When you when you arrange your troops in a defensive manner,   it's really hard   for,   a   an attacking force   to battle their way through because you're set up in a defensive manner.  

If you're set up to roll forward, you've got all your eggs in one basket. It's all at the front, and it's ready to push. That's the only real way to push forward with an army.   That's what Russia Russia had done with all its troops across Germany's borders. And that's why it was so easy to crush them because they weren't expecting the attack. And they went in and blew up most of their war material,   before it had a chance to roll forward.   So that's the truth about Operation Barbarossa.   German that was the German operation against,   the Soviet Union.  

That was the opening of the Eastern Front as far as the Germany as far as Germany was concerned.   But I'm sure the Russian public weren't told of those intentions. It was just like, oh, Germany's attacked. It's a catastrophe.   It's a massive patriotic war.   That's why Germany was able to penetrate so far into   so far into the East as well because they decimated   the bulk of the material of the Russian army   until they got to sort of the the strongholds where everything was being built up, all the, quote, unquote, tractor factories building tanks and all that kind of thing.   That was all in reserve. That was all being built in   reserve,   probably to lure the German army into a trap, which is exactly what it was. And,   yeah, they ended up fleeing back because they were at   the sixth Army got completely surrounded in the Battle of Stalingrad. And that was really the last hope   on the Eastern Front for Germany. And it was on retreat ever since then. So,   the Russians saw it as a massive,   massive   act of aggression. And it was painted   as a patriotic war for them. So it's not surprising   that they   hit it with so much venom.  

So this is war. You know? This is just wars we're talking about. Toast get trodden on. You know? Oh, I should say. Yeah.   Yeah. But, yes, it's terrific. Doesn't doesn't doesn't matter. So sorry. I've I sort of talked a load there, but go on. So what were the the other sort of No. No. I just it was really it was just really engrossing it. It's probably,  

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good that I only do, like, a chapter,   you know, and then you get interruption. No. No. Fuck her off. You know? It's constant. Someone in and out. The dog's jumping up on you, and I'm like, I'm trying to read this. But I think sometimes, actually, it's just enough, just ten minutes to take in just reading that bit about them trying to get across the ice and the ice breaking and trying to get to the other side.   Gripping reading.  

[01:22:30] Unknown:

Yeah. It's very, very, very well written.   Yeah. But it yeah.   I knew as soon as you said you started reading it, I thought, crikey, you brave girl, because that's a tough journey, especially for a for I'm not being not being condescending at all, but for a female to read, that's a very tough journey.   Well, thank you. Well, no. With all the with with the rape of Germany chapter and all that kind of thing Yeah. Yeah.   That's that makes tough reading for a bloke, let alone, you know, let alone the last Yeah. I suppose.  

[01:22:59] Unknown:

Alas. So Alas. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I'm on my journey, Maleficus, so,   I shall read a bit more. Yeah. Yeah.   Just a little bit.  

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Yeah. Well, I've I've just so you know, for later on in the show, I have dropped a a song in for the bottom of the hour, and there's a song in for the for the outro, if you would like, all on topic.  

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And Yeah. That's fine. And this week, I won't press   anything.  

[01:23:27] Unknown:

Okay. They're only m p threes anyway. There's no video. But yeah.   Yeah. Did you, get a chance to listen to the rest of that little interview  

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with that I sent you last night? You.  

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The, the one with the guy who was,  

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in Dresden. Oh, oh, oh, yes. I did. Yes. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Quite  

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a quite a thing. Quite a,   quite an experience. You know? So,   yeah. Yeah. So we are on the eve of that.   So in a bit, when I do my it's a small connection, but it's kind of on topic this week. I figured we we ought to sort of stay around that subject, see, because it's such a poignant thing at this particular day. We are on the eve of of the bombing raids,   the anniversary of the bombing raids. And, you know, it lasted   how long did it last, Shelley?   Three days  

[01:24:18] Unknown:

in total. Yeah. See, everything I've read about that already, you see, numbers and everything. I mean, the numbers Thank you, Warren.  

[01:24:24] Unknown:

Victor Greg.  

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Sorry. Victor Greg. Thank you, Warren. Yeah. The numbers. Sorry. Well done, Warren. Yeah. No. I can't, and people can't seem some people like, I sent you over that documentary that I watched the other night, and,   he he was saying how much,   is a load of lies and stuff like that.   But the numbers, they seem to be think that it was, like, at least 300,000   that were killed a lot. The numbers are never gonna be the exact amount because, obviously, so many were refugees, and they didn't know where they were and stuff. Yep. But they estimated   at the time. Yeah. Yeah. 300,000.  

But the other documentary the other night was saying about a hundred hundred thousand   and a load of what people said was absolute   rubbish.   He was I tend to flee Yeah. Go on.   What's the word? Heklin,   David Irwin.  

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Oh, yeah. Yeah. Remember I said to you David Irving's a very easy target,   for people that want to ingratiate  

[01:25:24] Unknown:

themselves with people who get sucked in by the mainstream media. Why would you do that, though? Like, if you if you were doing a documentary, why would you feel that,   you know, actually, somebody else has said this isn't   wrong and I'll discredit them? I was really shocked. Because up until then, apart from him speaking really fast,   I just thought, you know, it's you know, I'm just trying to gain an understanding. But when he went on about,  

[01:25:46] Unknown:

David Irving, I was like And how he's not to be trusted. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I'd like to see how many hours that guy had spent in the archive. I'll tell you why you would do that, Shelley.   Yeah. There's only one logical reason why you would do that. You either have an axe to grind, you have a grudge to bear, or you have a massive roll of notes shoved up your ass.   That's it.   Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. There's only one you know, anyone with any kind of integrity   would actually look at it objectively.   You know, me or you aren't sat here because we looked at things subjectively.   We we look look at alright. We might get the wrong end of the stick after all our studies, but at least we've tried to be objective in what we do. You try to get to the bottom of it, and you try and learn about it, don't you? What do you get out of discrediting someone other than kudos from people that want that man discredited?  

So it's either kudos he's looking for or he's just got a big roll of he sat on a big roll of notes, and he's enjoying it.   That is my opinion.   So Yeah. Yeah. Sorry to be so crass, but, you know, I I can't stand people like that.   You know, it takes away from everything the likes of that me and you and others do.   It absolutely takes away from it because if he's full of shit, who else is?   You know? Well Sorry. Excuse my French.  

[01:27:06] Unknown:

How awful.   So do you want me to play your song, Manificus?  

[01:27:12] Unknown:

Yes. Go for it. So I don't want you to play the one that says bye bye. That's for the end of the show, obviously. I want you to play the other one.  

[01:27:20] Unknown:

Oh, I'm glad you're, like, really clear.  

[01:27:23] Unknown:

I I thought it would be really obvious looking at it, but it's only a couple of minutes, this one.   Okay. Right. But, it's a good play it, and I'll Enjoy. Cover up the screen.  

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Okay.   Bear with.   It will work. Yes. It will. Alright. Here we are.  

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Let go bumming.   Oh, let go bumming.   Like United   Nations airmen   do   in the night when peaceful citizens   are sleeping   far from any AA gunfire   we are keeping.   Let's go shelling   where they're dwelling.   Let's shell churches, women, children too.   Let us go to it.   Let's do it. Let's bum neutrals too.   Let's go bumming. It's becoming   quite the thing to do.   Let's go shelling   where they're dwelling.   Tell churches, women, children too.   Let us go to it. Oh, let's do it. Let's bum new truths too.   Let's go bumming it becoming   quite the thing to do.  

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Oh, I liked that.  

[01:30:38] Unknown:

You did?  

[01:30:41] Unknown:

I did.   What a song, though.   Let's Go Bobbin'. I mean, I can't imagine being out boogie into that.  

[01:30:49] Unknown:

Well, okay. So Bobbin'.   So that was Charlie and his Orchestra,   German propaganda   swing band from the nineteen forties.   They,   they essentially were,   put together   by   one of or probably Joseph on request of Joseph Goebbels, propaganda minister.   Swing music was actually banned in Germany at that time   or frowned upon. Oh, right.   Because it related to it wasn't   it wasn't,   derived from German culture, I suppose. And that's something that they they wanted to be the the cultural center of Europe. That was   the the real what they were were planning in the in the end. You know?   Apparently so, at least. But so what they would do is   at 12:00 at night, the BBC would stop broadcasting.  

And,   the transmission mast in, I think it was Brussels,   was under German control. And they would   play that over the airwaves. And you could pick it up in Britain. Churchill famously used to listen to them,   and actually quite enjoyed them, apparently.   Whether you like Churchill or not, it's quite a funny anecdote. I personally think it's because they wrote a song about him. But what they what that actually is is a parody song of a song called Let's Go Slumming on Park Avenue.   Oh, let's see. And what they would do is they would start up with the normal lyrics,   and then, you know, people would be and then they drop in their little propaganda lyrics as well. And what they were trying to do, and you will hear with the song that we play out the show with, what they were trying to do is tell the British public   exactly what was being done to Germany   and what was being done to England and by who.  



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Very clever. No. It was good. It was good. Yeah.  

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Goebbels was a was a a clever minister, clever you know, very, very good at his art, shall we say.   Sculpting and manufacturing public opinion.   Let's make no mistake. That's what propaganda is.   You know?   So,   yeah, it was an interesting time. Anyway, look, I've got a little Cornish connection for you here with,   I've got a book here called   any listeners looking? I think I've got oh, I'm backwards again. It's called Cornwall at War. It's by a guy called Peter Hancock.   And there's a little bit at the beginning, which I'm just gonna give you a little give you a little read. Hang on. Hang on. Hang on. Oh.   Oh, look at you. Which colors are you gonna play all? The rainbow colors.  



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Now I know why it sounded crap last week. It's because I was holding it. So I think if I put it down right.  

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Go.   Great. Okay. It's alright to carry on. Okay.   Okay. So I'm just gonna cut in on one of the paragraphs here. So while the country may have been ill prepared,   militarily for hostilities,   schemes for organizing the civilian population were already in place.   Plans had been made for the evacuation of mothers and children.   Notice what actually happened when the evacuations occurred.   Not many mothers went.   So plans had been made for the evacuation of mothers and children as early as 1934.   While the government had set up food   defense plans department   in 1936   to organize a supply of food and control prices   should the country find itself at war.  

Okay.   An amazing story has only recently come to light, which exposes the danger at this time of complacency and sees Cornwall playing a host to an eminent Nazi.   It has been told by Mr. Michael Lynn, grandson   of Alfred Browning Lynn. Ring any bells?  

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Vera Lynn? Nope.  

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Who who   close, but no cigar.   Close, but no cigar. But good guess.   So grandson of Alfred Browning Lynn, who founded the Cornish Guardian   newspaper.   He related. And I'm not surprised you haven't heard anything about him because a quick Google search won't turn up anything about his ancestry, family history, anything like that. And if you look at the Wikipedia, I'll read you the quickly read you the Wikipedia of the Cornish Guardian.   Cornish Guardian, founded in nineteen o one, is a weekly newspaper in Cornwall, England, UK, which is part of the Cornwall And Devon Mead which is now part of the Cornwall and Devon Media Group. Its head office is in Truro, and it's published in in seven separate editions. Bob Minlos with Ealewchy, North Cornwall, Southeast Cornwall, Saint Austell Weybridge.   That's pretty much it.  

So it doesn't give you any idea of the founding or anything like that. So that's very scant information on that chap. I did actually try and do a little dig.   So anyway,   this story was related by this chap. So Alfred Browning Lynn,   this story was related by Mr. Michael Lynn, his grandson.   Okay. He related how one day in 1938   his grandfather said to him, Michael,   you're coming with me today. You will see history being made.   His grandfather drove him   in his American Stutz, which is an expensive American car. Only rich people drove American cars in those days.   To Tringuentin House near Penzance.  

There he met none other than Joachim von Ribbentrop,   the German ambassador in London, before he became foreign minister. Ribbentrop, who made the Pact of Steel in Russia. Yep.   He was apparently friends with the Belitho family. You've heard of the Belitho family? Do you mean Belitho?   Oh, well, I say Belitho, but, yeah, I just read it as it is. Belitho. Alright. Sorry.   So you're familiar with the Belitho   family then and the Belitho estate? Yeah. Mhmm. Oh, okay.   So, apparently, their ancestors were quite friendly with von Ribbentrop.   And he liked to take cliff cliff walks during visits to them. On upon arriving   on the Cornish Riviera Express, he would be collected from the station in a large Mercedes Benz with white wall tires.  

Mister Lynn, then a boy of 11 or 12 years of age, was introduced to Ribbentrop and politely shook hands before being told to go and look at the big fish pond.   So he's definitely saw history being made there then, didn't he? Anyway, later at lunch,   the polished mahogany table with silver service made a lasting impression on him.   Following his private meeting with Ribbentrop,   Mr. Lynn senior said that said nothing on his return journey until they passed hail.   Clearly agitated, he eventually exclaimed   the arrogance of the man. His grandson his grandson recalls his explanation.   He said, when Hitler has won world domination,   Cornwall and St. Michael's Mount will be given to Ribbentrop.  

This episode may shed light on Germany's postwar intentions,   suggesting that those advocating appeasement were misguided.   It also indicates that Hitler and his Nazi supporters had designs on the British Isles   at least as early as 1938,   and possibly revealed   what was in store once the Fuhrer had satisfied   his ambitions   in Eastern Europe.   An interesting postscript to Mr. Lynn's story occurred at the end of the war,   when a commanding officer's driver, when as a commanding officer's driver, he was asked if he would like to spend a week doing guard duty at the Nuremberg   Trials, which is where they hung all the existing Nazis.  

Once there, he told the guard commander he knew von Ribbentrop.   The story was checked with the Daily Mail, I will enlighten more in a minute,   in London.   And then he was allowed to renew his acquaintance. Bearing in mind the guy was eight or something when he met him. Yeah.   He recalled that before he had entered the small cell, he was told not to shake hands with the fallen Nazi.   At first, Ribbentrop didn't remember him, but on hearing the story, he recalled his meeting with the young lad eight years before. Maybe he wasn't eight. Maybe that's what I've got from there.   He held out his hand, but mister Lynn ignored the gesture,   gesture,   the jester. Apologies.  

As sarcastically   as he could, he pointed out that the German had failed   to gain St. Michael's Mount. Things did not work out as planned, came the reply, said von Ribbentrop, apparently.   How likely do you think that story is?   So I'm gonna I'm gonna say I think that story is entirely   unlikely.   I'm not saying it's not possible,   but the very   fact   that a German foreign minister would turn round to some lowly driver or some,   he wasn't a lowly driver at the time, or to some,   media mogul   because   so let me elaborate here.   Lynn got his   basically media break by moving up to London and working with the Daily Mail and was great friends with the guy that owned the Daily Mail. When he came back to Cornwall,   he borrowed £500   off of his grandma. This is back in nineteen o   one. '5 hundred quid he borrowed off his grandma. You you could buy a house for £200,   and you could buy a farm for less than £500.  

Right?   So and it said it said in the article that I read, so the whole thing was set up on a shoestring. That's silly money back then.   I'm sorry. That's silly money back then. So he obviously came from a rich family anyway.   Went up and made his his big bucks working for the Daily Mail and came up and set set up the Cornish Guardian down here. So there you go. There's your origins of the Cornish Guardian.   Origins lie with the Daily Mail. It's funny, isn't it? Because it's owned by Reach Media now.   Anyway,   the reason I say that is entirely unlikely.  

Why would a foreign minister or or at the time an ambassador, someone that is trying to ingratiate   himself with the general populace   and make sure that Germany's demands or   questions are asked and met here in The UK. Why would he then turn around and say, when Hitler achieved world domination, I'm having the whole of Cornwall?   It just doesn't add up. No. I'm sorry.  

[01:41:33] Unknown:

And what book is that from?  

[01:41:35] Unknown:

That is from I'm I'm not suggesting that this guy made this up. This is he's relating this from,   sources   that I'd and I did try and track the sources, but it's,   it's IBID, IBID,   whatever that means. Someone will elaborate on that, I'm sure, in the chat.   Not trackable, though. It's it's probably from, someone's testimony or whatever.   But the book itself is Cornwall at War thirty nine to forty five, and it's got by a guy called Peter Hancock. And I have to say the book itself   is full of really, really useful information. It's a it's a good book. I've got a I I got a big a four size hardback copy,   because it was worth spending the money on. But,   yeah, little anecdotes like that. And then when you look at who the media was run by, well, no wonder such a story was spun.  

And I'm not being funny. If he if he was the grandson, then   I'm told to go and look at the the big fish in the pond while they had an important meeting.   Quite easily impressionable,   I would say. But there we go.   That's,   so what I wanted to elaborate upon that   from was so that's kind of the Kurnau connection to the conversation. But   the amount, the sheer volume of lies   told about Germany,   during that time frame,   is just   absolutely phenomenal. The other thing I want to bring up also is, you know, they said they may have had designs.   They may have had designs on the British Isles as early as 1938.  

Oh, really? Who could have even thunk that? Well, didn't they just say in 1934   they were already putting in plans for evacuation and food defence plans?   Yes. In the same book on the on the on the next page, on the page before. Sorry. So   we were geared up. We were expecting war. We were geared up for it.   We were we were on a warpath at that point.   So   Germany in I'm not suggesting Germany is the, righteous,   you know, righteous thing which some people make it out to be. It wasn't. It was a pretty, pretty brutal regime, has to be said.   We can get into that another time. But,   the sheer volume of lies told about the regime   and the propaganda put out.  

For instance, here here's one for you.   If Hitler wins, we'll all be speaking German.   You know?   There was a speech attributed to Hitler when he was talking about going into a certain country, whether it was Poland, Czechoslovakia, wherever it He was talking about going in, and he's quoted as saying,   what would it matter if they were all wiped out? No one remembers the Armenian genocide   for what it was.   In actual fact, that that line has been attributed to Hitler so often, but the first time it ever appeared,   quote unquote,   was in a London newspaper.  

And since then has embedded its way into the history books. Another one. Hitler wanted gun control. There was no gun there wasn't any gun control in Germany at that time.   What was the other one as well?   Oh, yeah. Twenty five thousand deaths in in Dresden. How about that?   All the lies.   All the you know? And   the Churchill even said himself, the truth is so delicate that it needs a whole body of lies to protect it.   You know? Good quote. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Interesting stuff, anyway. It's just, you know, the the whole subject matter, particularly, obviously, at this time, you know, probably this is this is the anniversary of probably one of the most heinous things that is remembered, not necessarily that we did, but it's probably,   you know, Cologne, Hamburg, all those cities, all the it all had the same treatment. What made it such a shame with Dresden was just the fact that,   it was a civilian city. There was no there was no war interest there at all apart from maybe a clock working   factory, which may have may or may not have made parts,   you know,   that went towards the German war effort. But it was only you know, it was a clock factory, essentially. So, yeah, it's very, very sad.  



[01:45:50] Unknown:

And I can't recommend think the plan was why why was Dresden left   so late to be bombed?   Because they literally thought that they've got away with it, didn't it? Because they had, like, something like a 78   false alarms, which was why lots of them that night didn't even try to go into hiding because every time the sirens went, it was like, oh, it's another false alarm. At that point, it had been declared a fortress, which basically means that it's a stronghold for civilians.  

[01:46:19] Unknown:

There's no military   you know,   that was the whole thing. It had been declared a fortress   internationally. They'd said, like, you know, Dresden is a fortress. You there's no   and the only thing that there would have been any kind of   so this is the the the horrible thing about Dresden when you look when you really look into it, the nitty gritty, the excuses for doing it,   was the marshaling yards, the the railway marshaling yards, which   what me and you would call just a a a a railway yard where all the trains sort of, you know,   where they terminate. You know, so you got all this big yard where they all terminate.  

You've got all these routes out of Dresden going various places.   One bridge.   One bridge was destroyed in that bombing effort.   So there was no disruption in travel   at all.   That was the excuse. They've got marshalling yards there. You can go onto YouTube now   and type in   British Cathay,   Dresden.   And it will give you the British Pathway newsreels of the time.   And you will hear the propaganda that's being spouted. You know,   American and British raiders have been, you know, bombing Dresden and all that. And some of the terminology they use, you know,   they've given them what for and they've showed them and they've blah, blah. And you know, and you think of what actually happened.  

It's an absolute tragedy. And, you know, the definition of Holocaust   is,   the definition of Holocaust is essentially   destruction by fire.   That is exactly what happened, what we did to most of the German cities.   And Dresden   was,   as as we've reiterated time and time again, full of civilians, full of refugees. It was their Mardi Gras.   So they had all these, you know, all these poor kids found, you know, dead in their Mardi Gras outfits and blah blah blah. You know, one of the I can't emphasize enough the David Irving book, Apocalypse 1945.   It's an amazing read. It's it's pretty hard to read through, but he does a really clinical   dissection   of how it came about and and the circumstances that led up to it and the,   the tick boxes that were   made for the British war effort in in,   governing a a bombing campaign in that way.  

But he talks about,   you know, they've, like, they piled a load of kids onto trains.   And or there were a lot of kids, you know, waiting to leave on the trains, and the trains couldn't leave, but they were sure it wouldn't be bombed. And then as all the flares started coming down, the marker flares,   David Irving describes it in his book as to how the,   the seniors looking after these kids must have gone round   and pulled all the blinds down in the carriages where these kids were so that they couldn't see the flares being dropped.   That's how they found those carriages, full of full of dead kids with, you know, with yeah. The blinds had obviously they're disintegrated,   but the   blinds had you know, where the way the rollers were on the blinds, they'd obviously been pulled down.  

You know? So   there is no excuse. I don't care what that   nasty piece of work said on YouTube. There is never ever an excuse for bombing civilians ever.   Yeah. And that was our policy. That was our policy. Make no mistake. That was our policy to disrupt the war effort. I'll I I reiterate reiterated it last week, but I'll say it again. We found during the bombing of Coventry   that the biggest problem was not reinstating the gas and the electricity in the water. That could be done in a matter of days. But rehousing the people   and the workers   caused such a massive,   if you like, refugee problem   in England,   that that caused more disruption than the actual raid raids and demoralized, completely demoralized the populace.  

That's why it was done.  

[01:50:21] Unknown:

Yeah. I'm sick of him. It was just   it was evil. It was just pure evil.  

[01:50:26] Unknown:

Yeah.   Anyway, so,   heart goes out to all those people that are sort of particularly in Germany and Dresden that are remembering. And I'm sure there's still some people alive that can remember it. So heart goes out to all them over these next few days.   But, yeah, what can you say? All you can do is hold your hands up and say, not in my name.   You know?  

[01:50:47] Unknown:

What must it have been like for those pilots, though,   bombing?   I think from one source in that book, he said if we had realized what we what we were really doing, we wouldn't have agreed to get in   the pilots.   Well, we wouldn't have agreed to get in. Was it something like how many how many planes were there that went ahead? I did have it written down tonight. Crikey. Crikey. I mean, but there was only a percentage that weren't all bomber planes, were they? But there was a hideous amount of planes.  

[01:51:16] Unknown:

Well, most most of the planes were bomber because don't forget, the Americans,   had long range fighters, so they could they could support all their bombers during the day. And also not forgetting, uncle Joe Stalin was allowing us to fly across Germany   and land and refuel and rearm over in The Soviet Union and fly back across and do it all again on the way back. So,  

[01:51:37] Unknown:

And it was in twenty minutes, wasn't it?  

[01:51:39] Unknown:

In what? What's twenty minutes? Dresden.  

[01:51:42] Unknown:

That first initial attack.  

[01:51:46] Unknown:

The attacks actually,   on and off, lasted for three days. The initial attack Yeah. The first one.   The first I couldn't tell you how long the very first   raid lasted for, but   the British had a policy of   leaving it just enough time for emergency services to be rushed in from other areas of Germany, and they'd start it all again.   So all the emergency service. And and, look, I'm not I'm not taking it away from the bomber guys. The guys that were getting in those planes, as you said, rightfully said, most of them would not have got in the planes   if they'd realized who and what they were bombing.  

They're simply following order there. You know? I'm I'm not being funny.   Bomber command had a 50% survival rate.   Those lads that went up there.   Do you remember the the Colonel connection I did on the Spitfire pilot, Jeff Wellum?   Eighteen year old guy.   And the 18 year old guy, when he first flew in the Battle of Britain,   eight and a half hours in a Spitfire as training,   and he survived to the end of the war. And he said, those bomber crews,   he said,   he said, I wouldn't like to be there. He said, at least in a at least in a in a spitfire, you can get up and you can weave about and you can move about. Not those boys.   They had to fly straight to their target,   you know, stay straight and level while they were aiming up the bombs, and it just   the German   made mincemeat of them.  

They had a 50%   survival rate.   So   I don't blame the bombers. I don't blame the guys. And if you,   Victor Greg thank you, Warren earlier. Victor Greg was the guy I was talking about, the BBC interview.   He's written a couple of books as well, which are are worth a read. I haven't got either of them here. Lent them out, not got them back. One of those.   But,   Victor Greg, look him up on YouTube. There's lots of testament testimony of his service and his time in Dresden as well.   Oh, it just, yeah, it just doesn't matter thinking about it. It's   it's such a sad event.  

But, you know,   it as I say, even he said, it's he doesn't blame the guys up there. He knew what was going on. He So I never blame the guys up there. It's the guys above them.  

[01:54:04] Unknown:

Yeah. Yeah.  

[01:54:06] Unknown:

Yeah.   So As it is for everything, really, isn't it? Always those at the high end. Oh, there's always yeah. Yeah. I know. But then as David Irving said, you you saying those guys wouldn't have got in the aeroplanes. As David Irving said, I don't think any of those guys on the Normandy Beaches would have gone 20 paces up the beach if they'd have realized what England was gonna look like today.   True. True. And and it's that you know, I'm not being funny.   You know,   those that came before us,   in us, they have to reside.   You know? And and that's   largely why I sit here and do what I do and read the books that I read. And and this is why we end up getting on the radio and having rants about   this, that, and the other.  

You know, you've gotta hold the flag up for these poor people,   a, the people, the victims, but, b, all those folks that weren't didn't realize   what it was they were actually doing.   You know? Both world wars were designed   to devastate Europe.   They they were designed to decimate the European race   so that we were a much more subservient and subdued people in what has occurred in the last, you know, fifty years, seventy years.  

[01:55:22] Unknown:

We're all a bunch of videos. The night. We are. I dreamt the other night that   your granddad's book wasn't published anymore,   And we were trying to get it out there to be republished and stuff.  

[01:55:38] Unknown:

Well,   it it is published.   You can still get it on Amazon, believe it or not, despite the purge. Good. Yeah. Yeah. So hidden government, folks. Hey. Go and have a look.   Well worth a read.   Along with many other there's so many books out there, Shelley. There really is.   Anyway  

[01:55:56] Unknown:

I know. Never get around to it all. Not not on a chapter and I anyway. But, no, that just seems to be nice time to read for me. So I've got a lovely I've got a lovely book for the end of the year. So this is a little spoiler listeners and viewers.  

[01:56:10] Unknown:

I've got a brilliant book   for the end of the year. I know you can't read that because it's backwards.   The true story about the Christmas truce.   Because one thing you have to remember about the Christmas truce in 1914   when both sides decided that, hey. It's Christmas. We don't wanna shoot each other, and they ended up playing football and exchanging gifts and blah blah blah.   A lot of those guys, it was stamped if it hadn't been for the generals. My granddad said if it hadn't been for the generals,   that would have been the end of it.   But it was stamped on. A lot of it has been stamped out of history and said, oh, no. It didn't really occur. It's just, you know, people like people like to say they'd be home by Christmas, and that's what it's all about. Absolute nonsense. The thing is very few people   who were alive in 1914   during that Christmas truce actually made it to the end of the war. So there's scant information on it. But   there'd be a good treat for Christmas folks, so we're looking towards the end of the year there. Alright?  



[01:57:03] Unknown:

Well, look forward to that, Maleficus. I'm just looking at, Warren's   messages.   And, yeah, I agree with you, Warren. The thing Warren says the thing that pisses me off most was all of the American fighter plane which machine gunned the baby giraffe, which was out of the zoo near Dresden.   Yeah. Oh, bless you. That really touched on me as well, the animals and   stuff like that in the zoo. It's just, just evil. Just evil.  

[01:57:30] Unknown:

Well, look. Anyway all done. World War two was all done so that Britain could sell off its empire.   And the Germans tried to tell us that. So,   thank you for having me on, Shelley. I guess we'll close out, and this tune will,   this tune will, you know, paint the picture that the Germans were trying to paint for us. Her. You certainly have to thank me for coming on. This is your show as well, Monica. I know. But it's nice to be in your company.  

[01:57:56] Unknown:

Well, thank you for turning up   and not leaving me here for an hour. Yeah.   Okay. Right. Well, I will play us out with this next song, and I'm not gonna touch   anything while it's playing.   And we will be back same time next week.   Oh, quick quick post.   Women's the million women's march is happening in Truro on   Monday, the seventeenth. They're happening nationwide.   So do find their page and, get on and support them. Right. Maleficus, I'll speak to you in a minute, my lovely, and thank you for listening all. Have an awesome,   awesome week.  

And let me just put that, and let's find the music. One day, I'll know everything I'm touching.   Right. Bye bye, Blackbird. Here we go.  

[01:59:35] Unknown:

Here's mister Churchill's latest song dedicated to Great Britain.   I never cared for you before.   Hong Kong, Burma, Singapore.   Buy buy   empire.   I   may lose two, then I only have the London Zoo.   Bye   bye, empire.   There's no one here who loves and understands   understands me.   Nothing but heaps of bay news they all handle me.   The Yankees are still out of sight.   I can't make out wrong from right empire.   Bye   bye.