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Lets talk about Halloween ... good or bad ?


Welcome to the Shelley Tasker Show, broadcasting live from RadioSoapbox.com and streaming on Rumble. On this episode, dated 30th October 2024, we delve into a range of intriguing topics with our guest, Malllificus Scott. We kick off with a light-hearted discussion about the challenges of rural internet connectivity in Cornwall, touching on government and private investments in fibre optics and the intermittent service issues faced by residents.

As the conversation unfolds, we explore the controversial topic of health issues potentially linked to vaccinations, with Malllificus sharing anecdotes and observations about rising health concerns. We also delve into the pervasive influence of technology and media on society, discussing the impact of mobile phones and the internet on daily life and personal interactions.

The episode takes a reflective turn as we discuss spiritual beliefs and practices. Shelley shares her journey from spiritualism to exploring Christian beliefs, prompting a discussion on the nature of spiritual experiences and the potential dangers of certain practices. Mallificus and guest Patrick join in to discuss the spiritual and cultural significance of Halloween, exploring its origins and how it ties into All Saints' Day.

We wrap up with a discussion on the importance of storytelling and cultural preservation, touching on language and education. Mallificus shares his current projects, including his involvement with the AK Chesterton Trust. Join us for a thought-provoking episode that spans technology, health, spirituality, and culture.

[00:00:00] Unknown:

Going live.   Yes. Yes. Yes. We're streaming,   and let's play the intro music.   Good evening, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the Shelley Tasker Show here coming live out of radiosoapbox.com.   It's good to have your company.   I am also streaming live on Rumble. Just look my name up, Shelley Tasker,   and click the like and subscribe button.   Anyway, today's date is Wednesday, 30th October   2024,   a day before Halloween.   And, I have a great guest this evening, short notice, but we have the wonderful Maleficus Scott. Good evening, Maleficus.  

[00:01:43] Unknown:

Good evening. Oh, that's that was a nice introduction. Yeah. Good evening,   missus Tasker, and great listeners out there. Yeah. Thank you for finally,  

[00:01:52] Unknown:

getting yourself connected and making my show start late.  

[00:01:57] Unknown:

Well, that's that's fine.   Anytime.  

[00:01:59] Unknown:

Anytime. Anytime.   You should know better, mister Scott.  

[00:02:05] Unknown:

Generally, I do, but this time, I'm gonna blame it on my ISP providing me with an awful router and an awful service up until now. This new,   this this new fangled fiber that they've been rolling out all over Cornwall, all over rural Cornwall,   is,   well, as you know,   there has been loads of government funding   to get   everyone in rural areas   on fast fiber Internet. Because, of course, everyone who milks cows, you know, for their breakfast cereal in the morning needs fast fiber Internet, don't they?   And it's there's also been a lot of private investment as well. So there's, currently, there's 2 companies up and running down here. 1 is Willdanett,   and one is another one whose name I can't think of right now.  

But, anyway,   they've also had a lot of private investment as well, like 100 of 1,000,000   of private investment on top of the government's.   You know, who's paying out? Who in whose interests   is it   to, you know, to do all that? But, anyway, the the services they've rolled out is absolutely shocking. It does not it's not gonna bring anyone into the future anytime soon. It's great when it's up and running, but my word, how intermittent. I mean, how can you go that badly wrong? Yeah. Yeah. How can you get it that badly wrong? BT,   British Telecom on copper lines   did better than these folks that are using fiber optic cable.  

I'm I'm not joking. I'm really not joking. No.   Yeah. It's pretty awful, really, to be honest.   So, yeah, ran over.   I I, obviously, I'm not gonna disclose which company I'm with, but,   I'll give you a clue. I can't remember the name to the other one. Oh, right. Okay.   Yeah. I don't understand. It's getting rolled out all over Cornwall. Right. It's getting rolled out all over Cornwall. Everywhere you go now, there's new little 4, 5 inch strips of tarmac down the middle of the main roads, and it's just it's laying all this fiber optic cable.  

[00:04:12] Unknown:

Must be costing someone 1,000,000. Well, it is. Well, and the whole 5 g posts, masks going up everywhere.   Have you got any of those near you? Yeah.  

[00:04:22] Unknown:

Not currently, but it's only a matter of time because we're on a high point where I am. I'm in the middle of Cornwall. So it's,   it's you know, it's this there's a convergence down the middle of Cornwall of land, and it it it tends to get higher in the middle than it does near the shore. So,  

[00:04:37] Unknown:

yeah, it's only a matter of time, I guess. Yeah. Yeah. Well, it's probably, like, half a mile down the road from me, so   we will see we will see if, well, if and what happens.   Lots has been happening,   well well, it's not good, but lots of results, I think, from the old jabs,   seeing lots of things unravel there. Lots of people with heart problems,   cancer, turbo cancer. Darren's told me tonight about someone in their mid twenties that's got breast cancer,   and I'm like, I bet they got the jab   still.  

[00:05:14] Unknown:

I apologize. That was me again, wasn't it? What?   I disappeared there as you were saying that just as you said, unraveling,  

[00:05:22] Unknown:

and I lost you. Just at the right time. Well, I was just saying there's lots of poorly people about heart problems, blood clots,   and turbo turbo cancers and stuff, all of us all as a result of the jab, I'm sure.  

[00:05:36] Unknown:

Well, I mean, I'm not qualified to say, but it's uncanny, isn't it? You know, before they rolled out all these   jabs, they were already preparing everyone in the mainstream media because of the lockdowns there was going to be a surge in cancer. How do you how do you work that one out? You know, particularly when they're treating people with cancer, with cancer causing agents. You know, I I just I don't Well, some people believe that when, like, the whole 5 g system's turned on as well, that that's gonna, like, integrate with those that have been jabbed. Who knows? That could just be Yeah. I think   I just you know what? I I believe it when I see it. But I don't think they need any of that stuff to get people sucked in. I don't. All they need, really, is the baby the rectangle babysitter in the corner of the living room, which occupies everyone's mind space from the moment they get home from work the moment they go   to bed. That that's they don't need any of this stuff to control people. It's it's, you know, it's already the control's already there. Yeah. Yeah. You know? Well, tonight on the news And and as long as people Sorry. Go on. No. Nick, go on. No. Go on. You. Well, as as long as people   keep thinking of other ways that they're going to be sneaky and and and get control of our brains and our mind, they've all done it. I just I just know what I mean. Yeah. They've already done it for most people.  

You know? Come on, Shelley, you've been banging your head against a brick wall like I have.  

[00:06:59] Unknown:

Yeah. And I must take it into account, actually, just to, give a brief introduction,   for anybody listening.   Maleficos,   was   is my cohost or I'm your cohost on the connection that we're having a little bit of a break from for a while, and,   he's been doing radio for quite a few years. Hence, why he's had a little bit of a break.   And, yeah, he very kindly   decided to step in because I didn't think tonight was going ahead because it's half term, but mister English didn't seem to be picking up messages. And it was like, wow, there'll be an hour of empty air.   And how do I get a hold of Maleficus? Because he doesn't even a phone. Oh, I know. His wife's on WhatsApp. Let's message his wife. Yeah. So, And she and she had she I I got in from work, and the first thing she did was hand the phone to me. So Oh, bless her. No way to live, though.  

Oh, Maleficos, Shelley's messaged you.  

[00:07:53] Unknown:

Yeah. Yeah. But you know,   it's so nice not having a mobile phone. Shelley, I keep telling you, you should try it for a week. Just try it for a week. You'd never look back, honestly. Don't know. I feel like I lost an arm.   You wouldn't.   You wouldn't. You'd find it. Honestly, you're own you you only think you'd you it was like losing an arm. It might be for the first day because you're, oh, I needed to check. Oh, no. I don't. I'm not using a mobile phone this week. We didn't scroll. Be like, oh, how nice. Yeah. We you don't scroll because  

[00:08:24] Unknown:

you don't have a mobile phone.   But that's what I like to do. When I wake up in the morning, cup of tea  

[00:08:29] Unknown:

with my phone, I have phone time. It's like me and my phone. Don't talk to me. I've only had 2 cups of tea and looked on my phone. They don't that's what I mean. They don't need to control people with 5 g and and Morgellons fiber and and and, what's the other stuff that they're supposed to have put in the the   the the vaccines, which which create their own nanobots or whatever. I don't know. Whatever. They don't need any of that, Shelley. You're already on your phone until your second cup of tea's down in the morning. They got you. I know. I know.  

[00:08:58] Unknown:

And it's rubbish, isn't it? Well, I say that, to be honest with you, though, lots of, I've I'm spending a lot of time on TikTok.  

[00:09:06] Unknown:

Have you heard of TikTok even? Yes. I've heard of it. I have children who have mobile phones.   I I I can I choose to stay out of well, I choose to stay out of this century, but it doesn't mean I force everyone around me to do that? No. I'm not you know, so I'm not dumb to it. No. Do you know what I mean? I just I just choose not to participate. That's all. No. It is based mostly rubbish. I do find some interesting things. I'm, like, looking for cures for my,  

[00:09:31] Unknown:

hello, reconciliation.   Who,   you eat fibre for breakfast.   Right. Just a message in the live chat.   I should eat fibre for breakfast. I don't know. I'm trying to sort out my life because I've had horrendous   reflux and stuff for months now, and I've actually got a date to have an interview   with the surgeon.   And it's a bit scary, really, because I'm wondering, can I heal it naturally,   or do we have to go through this whole operation process?   But I find that I watch TikTok videos, and I scroll in my symptoms and stuff. TikTok is just like another Google for me. And then I just watch all these people that say something totally different,   and I'm still none of the wiser really. But, but if anything, there's too much bloody information out there, isn't there?  



[00:10:20] Unknown:

Yeah. Well, that's I think that's half the problem. That's what keeps everyone dumbfounded, I think. I don't know what to believe anymore with stuff.   That do you do you know what? You hit the nail on the head. Yeah. The the the the waters are that muddy. That no one knows where to look, what to believe. Are there morgellons fibers in in the, in the swabs that they're taking your DNA with and and processing it and cloning you while you're not looking? It's just, you know   Yeah. Yeah.   Nobody knows where to look anymore, and it's just got ridiculous.   It's got ridiculous. Everyone's an armchair expert on everything. Everyone's got an opinion on everything. That's the thing. Everybody's looking at people. Probably none of them are right.  



[00:10:57] Unknown:

Yeah. I suppose they just described what's worked for them and things like that, but I've just been going down rabbit holes, and I'm just like, oh my days. Oh my days.   But, we do have a lot to be thankful for with the Internet.  

[00:11:11] Unknown:

Absolutely. Sorry. Excuse me. Coffee and overnight.   No. Absolutely. We've got a lot to be well, I mean, yeah, I've got an awful lot to be happy about the Internet for. It's not the technology. It's how it's used, I guess, isn't it? And that's something I've always said. I have no problem with mobile phones per se. They're they're blooming useful things. I just hate how insidious they are in in in society   and how eroding they are to local communities.  

[00:11:34] Unknown:

You know? It's just that's It is. And we're we're never I mean, we're the first sort of parents that have had to deal   with what it's like bringing children up with screens,   because I find it so hard because if I delete YouTube, it appears somewhere else and this   Roblox   game. Oh my god, Manifikus.   It drives me nuts and. Well, actually, that's the first thing he wants to do when he gets home from school.   And now what I do so we can have more screen time is to say, like, we read for half an hour, and then you get an hour screen time.   So at least I'm trying to, you know, I'm trying, but, god, it does get hard.  



[00:12:15] Unknown:

Yeah. It does. And, you know, that's that's it's all part of it, isn't it? It's all part of distraction. I mean, there's a lot to be said about the fact that most   most people that pour ridiculous money into movies and things like that are doing it because they've got their own agenda, not because it makes loads of money at the box office. You think how much all these all these lavish you know, I can't see,   other than product placement   in all these mainstream   big movies now, like all the   rubbish Marvel stuff that they're bringing out nowadays. I can't see other than product placement how they really   make money out of it. Because who who goes to the cinema anymore? What, people just rent this stuff on Netflix and stuff, I guess. Yeah. It's all changed over to everyone having an account for everything, you know. And again,   you'll own nothing and be happy about it and blah blah blah blah blah. But, you know, I think,   for me, recently,   because as you said, I've taken a bit of time out of radio and all that kind of thing. And just   focusing on doing other things. I'll get into some of that in a bit.  

But,   you know,   I I just think   sometimes   you need time out from a lot of these things to stop you from   stop it becoming   an all time focus, you know, an all consuming focus. And don't get me wrong,   for the last couple of years,   and in fact, since everyone started waking up after the COVID nonsense, I've kind of taken a bit of a back seat and just let people do their own thing because they   not that I'm any font of knowledge or anything like that, but, you know, I'm just gonna see what unfolds from the   from the mess, really, and from you know? So I've kind of taken a back seat with being, like, you know,   giving people history lessons and and, you know, alternative history lessons and things like that. Because,   actually, it's really interesting to see what's unfolding at the moment,   And just to see how a lot of it is being used.  

Even a lot of the old folk as I said, like, a while back, even a lot of the old folks are using,   terms like woke now and how they don't like seeing certain adverts on the TV that   that, show a, you know, a disproportionate   sort of or or or an inaccurate sort of how average household in Britain and that kind of thing. Yeah. And a lot of old folks are waking up to all that.  

[00:14:40] Unknown:

Interestingly,   at work, I received an email from my manager last week,   and right at the bottom,   it says her name, and then it says pronoun   she, her.   And I I said to her the next day, I said, have you got to do that now? She said, yeah. That's That's what they've got to do in the council. They've got to put their pronouns at the bottom of emails.  

[00:15:03] Unknown:

They have to. Yeah.  

[00:15:05] Unknown:

Yeah.  

[00:15:06] Unknown:

Well, yeah, that's the point where you that's the point, surely, where you you you you they must go to work in the morning and question why they're even there having surgery.  

[00:15:15] Unknown:

Who does it? They just do do their job.   Do their job.   But, it's crazy.   Reconciliation says someone at church told me the relative in his thirties found out he has brain cancer recently.   Reconciliation.   Is is that you, Patrick?   Because if that is, you may as well jump on because,   I I wanted to get into a little bit of spooky stuff tonight about Halloween.  

[00:15:38] Unknown:

Oh. Oh. But   on that on that sort of last, just as a last point on the fact that, you know, everyone's sort of no one knows where to go. The muddies are so water. The smoke's so thick. It's like pea soup in here. You know what I mean? No one knows really where to look. Everyone's got an idea   of everything.   There's a lovely lyric,   knowledge, faith, chaos, and song. On the abacus, conjecture doesn't last very long. What you believe or deny   may be equally wrong,   but don't let yourself get too jaded.   So that's that's my last point on that. It's not my lyrics, by the way. No. I like it. I like it. Yeah.  

[00:16:19] Unknown:

No. It is the the waters are muddied,   definitely.   And I don't tend to well, I don't delve into so much stuff anymore. I'm not,   I'm just not bothered, Maleficus.  

[00:16:31] Unknown:

Well, I do. I'm still on my war studies. My favorite thing of war studies really is nothing to do with the history of this and the politics of that.   All I tend to read now is firsthand accounts, autobiographies   of people that served.   And   you get a very, very different picture   of what war is like,   very much so, and of public opinion. I'm reading a brilliant one at the moment,   by a guy called Guenter Beets.   And,   he   what what basically, he was a civilian up until nearly the end of the war because he was too young.   But here he recollects conversations between his   parents and his peers regarding the Nazis coming to power and all that kind of thing and and, you know, certain international powers and things like that. It's a very, very   interesting book because it gives you a completely different insight.  

You know, a girl that he dated   turned out   she turned up to a date one day   wearing her Jewish star, and and he didn't know where to look because of his own   sort of, you know, because he knew that   really   for his own sake in society, you shouldn't be seen out with these people and and that kind of thing. So it's it's been a really interesting journey reading through, you know, his particular,   thing. And I'm only halfway through the book at the moment, but that's that's that's a real recommended read to anyone out there listening.   That and Blood, Red, Snow are my 2 favorite   so far books,   just for insight.  

So you're still an avid reader then, Maleficos. Oh, absolutely. I'm I'm I'm swamped with books. I've got more books than I can,   I have to wear glasses now?   I've got more I've got more books than I know what to do with. Well, I know what I've gotta do with them, obviously, but, it's just finding the time and getting around to it. Yeah.  

[00:18:28] Unknown:

I've I've got a couple, actually, and I've had a couple of really nice moments.   Well, I wonder if you call them moments.   I've I've been to church a few weeks ago, and I've just been looking into stuff, really. And I got talking to somebody at church about a book called the cross and the switchblade. Now have you ever heard that or Run Baby Run?   No. No. Well, it's like a Christian   bestseller from years ago. I read it when I was a teen, and it's all about the guy who was into gangs? That's it. Yeah. That's yes. I do remember the So the guy bits of the story. Yeah. The guy that was in the gang wrote a book called Run, Baby, Run, and then the vicar   that got him to turn to God, David Wilkerson, I think he's called, which he's actually   dead now. He died a few years ago apparently in a car accident.  

But I was talking to somebody at church, and I was like, do you know what? I'm gonna order that book because I just really feel fancy reading it. So I ordered it, and I actually ordered the wrong one. It was actually the Run Baby Run   one that I wanted. Anyway, it was a bonus because I thought I haven't read this one from the vicar's perspective.   And this book came in the post,   and it was wrapped in tissue paper. And it had a card, and it said, dear Shelley, I hope that this book finds you well and you enjoy it. Love from whoever it was from. And, also,   one of those coins,   and it's got, like, a Bible verse on it. And even with my glasses on, I can't read it because it's that tiny.  

But I just thought it was such a lovely gesture.  

[00:19:55] Unknown:

Absolutely.  

[00:19:56] Unknown:

Oh, lovely. And then,   yesterday,   I got up, and there was a book posted through my door, and it's called what to do when it's your turn, and it's always your turn.   And it's just loads of little stories about people that have been disheart it's not really a story,   but I'm about halfway through. And a friend of mine, she put to Shelley, I read this book and thought of you, love jewels, and posted that through my letterbox.  

[00:20:21] Unknown:

Yeah. What is it with people posting new books? I know. You haven't posted me one for a while. Christmas is coming. Christmas is coming. Yeah.  

[00:20:32] Unknown:

But Yeah.   Because it because I've been getting into this whole, like, bible bashing stuff I say, and I don't mean that to anybody out there that's got their religious beliefs. Because I believe there's something, and I know, like, you're not what we'd call over spiritual when we've had these conversations before.   But I've been chatting to people, like, from the church and my other good friends,   and it would appear that for the last since I was 8 years old, it would appear that I've been masquerading with the devil.   Now I say this because from the age of 8 years old,   I've been a spiritualist.  

I've been highly involved in a spiritualist church, learnt mediumship, sat in physical circles, blah, blah, blah, blah. Yeah. Yeah. And   I never really realized. And I used to always say to my friend at Signs and wonders, Shelley. Beware signs and wonders. Well, this is it. And now   I watched a movie the other night, and they said this they said that phrase masquerading with the devil, and it just jumped out on me. And I was like, really?   It's oh, so I was hoping Patrick might jump on actually because he's religious, and he goes to church, and he might have something to say about that. Definitely have something to say about that, I would say. Oh, I mean, I know.  

[00:21:43] Unknown:

So to say I'm not   misnomer. I'm not I am a spiritual person,   but, you know, I believe there's something as well because how can there not be?   None of this can have happened by mistake. I'm sorry. It can't.   No. There's no chance. So,   but there's much conjecture about, you know,   what it is or why we're here, etcetera, etcetera. And I am honestly,   I'm not wise enough to know I'm happy to be shown.   That's my philosophy   on it. But, yeah, beware forces and principalities   and and   and signs and and wonders and and works   because they're I remember, I've I've read the bible   many moons ago, but I've read the bible, you know, a lot of these works and wonders are are not done in his name.  

And   there   there are certain things we're not to know. And when you look at and I don't want to upset anyone who might be living in the Bible Belt, in America, but I I I've never, never been a fan of TV   evangelism.   Never ever have I been a fan of that,   because everything that I've seen around it, to me, doesn't look very biblical.   I'm   I'm even a little bit dubious of people that speak in tongues. I have to say   that's not them. And I don't I I   I don't believe that the Holy Spirit can be channeled   through people in such a way or should be.   Patrick, by all means, jumped on here and shout. He's going to. He says give him he said give him a few minutes. He's just got him from work. But that I I just don't know. I remember when I first got into Christianity.  



[00:23:37] Unknown:

I read the Bible for a reason. I I You have read the Bible then. That's that's more than I've done. Yeah.  

[00:23:42] Unknown:

Yeah. I I I can't say I've read the Old Testament cover to cover, but, yes, the New Testament,   and under the fair chunk of the Old Testament, I would say.   It's just it's full it's just full of wisdom and wise words. I mean, they quite often   for no reason, quite quite often,   snippets of the bible come up into my head and come like a like a minute ago when you were talking about it. And I said about signs and wonders.   That's directly from the bible. I couldn't tell you exactly where.   But,   yeah, it's it's   I just think for me, I I am a spiritual person, but I I couldn't tell you.  

I'm happy to be shown, you know. And at all my experience of of TV evangelism, one of the first things was the Toronto blessing,   where people looked like they were I'm not being funny.   They just looked like they were being possessed by demons on stage. Sorry. That's just how it appeared to me.   I got a really sick feeling in my stomach when I, you know, and you had all these preachers there going, you know, putting their hands on their heads, on these people's heads and going, come on, let the bubble out of your belly, let the bubble out of your belly, whatever that was.   And they would relax and let whatever this was go, and they would just collapse in fits of hysteria.  

And to me, that is not any kind of blessing.   No. No. And these preachers that can walk over to people and touch touch people on the head, and they they they turn to jelly. I mean, what's all about? Is that That exactly   have worked themselves up so much that, oh, he touched me. I'm gonna go to jelly now. Or   is there something really seriously quite demonic about it? I tend to think the latter, but so I am a spiritual person, but, you know,   one of the reasons I don't go to church anymore. Yeah.   Yeah. One of the reasons I don't go to church anymore is because,   you   know, again, everyone was the the the the their own armchair expert in the church.  

And all that and rather than being   compassionate and forgiving of people, I found most people in churches to be very, very judgmental,  

[00:25:52] Unknown:

which is completely the opposite of Oh, yeah. You do find that with your good Christian people, don't you? They're the first, you know, they were the ones lots of them, weren't they? Those in the churches down, and you can't come if you're not vaccinated.  

[00:26:04] Unknown:

She said, but, I mean, you know, again, there's another passage from the bible. You know, how can you   how can you point out the speck in your brother's eye when you look at the plank in your own?   You know? God, you judge not Judge not, don't you?   Judge not, lest ye be judged yourself.   That's the whole point. Judge, don't judge people, lest you are judged yourself. And and there is no higher, as far as Christianity goes,   or any religion goes, there is no higher law than God, whatever   people perceive God as.   Like I say, I if anything, I believe in a in a personal relationship   with the creator, and you'll get shown whatever you get shown. It's not up to you.  



[00:26:47] Unknown:

Well, no. I just feel like, like I said, from the age of 8, I used to go to the spiritualist church. And a lot of that, you know, is bible readings and stuff as well, but the main difference being that mediums give out messages.   And quite often, these messages are heartwarming. They give relatives   reassurance,   and it heals  

[00:27:07] Unknown:

people. Yeah. I understand that. If that's not good but is it look. I mean, yeah, there there is the argument that that, you know,   that these fallen angels are are actually, you know, they're assigned when you're when you're born, you have you have these fallen angels, or   if you like, demons assigned to you at birth.   One book you must, must read on this subject,   it's a   fictitious book.   It's by CS Lewis,   and it's called the Screwtape Letters.   And it's chilling.   It's absolutely chilling,   when you look at it in the perspective that people are, you know, if you look at it in the perspective that people are assigned demons from birth to lead them down the wrong path,   to twist their thoughts, to make them fall out with the people that they, you know,   that so CS Lewis, the Screwtape Letters,   it's basically the letters between Screwtape, the demon Screwtape,   and his nephew, Wormwood.  

And Wormwood is having problems with his subject because his subject   and he ends up, you know, he he keeps failing because his subject keeps trying to be more pious.   You know what I mean? More more closer to God. So,   and, you know,   the the way that   CS Lewis words these letters between the demons, so it's because most of Screwtape's advice is is so insidious.   It's like, oh,   that's, you know, that's you know, you must make him believe that, you know, when his wife says this to him, that this is what she means and and plant that seed in his head. So the next time his wife says,   what are you   doing? You know, it it it drives a wedge rather than you know, all these little things.  

So that's an interesting concept in and of itself. So if that's the case, these demons know everything about you. They know everything from eternity to now   and from now to eternity, whichever end of it you go.   So of course, they can give messages,   very poignant likely messages about dead people.   There you go. There's one answer, potential answer, as to why it might be a bad thing. It's not my answer. I couldn't tell you. I am not clever enough to know.  

[00:29:17] Unknown:

Well, I I think experience   tells me that from tuning in and relaying messages to people,   I've never felt anything bad.   No. You always feel that you're doing it in the greatest love,   and that's why you do it. You know, one one of my friends, she's been a medium now for, oh, God, probably 20 years or so, and it's her life. It's her life. She believes to serve people   and read them, give them messages from their loved ones,   and, you know, she's fulfilling herself as, well, a Christian person. I totally get it. I totally get it. Maybe some people are granted these gifts. I don't know. I'm not lying. And that's the thing. I do I do think some people are, but there's lots of people you you learn. I wouldn't say I was granted the gift.   I sat in circle, and I learned how to tune into stuff.  

You know? They they put it across that, like, you know, you've got to to well, to let for people wanting to listen to the radio now   is airwaves that you can't see.   But, actually, it's the same with light mediumship.  

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Oh, I don't know. And it I get it. And, like, ley lines and and energies, earth, magnetic field, all that kind of thing. And and the idea that,   strong emotions can imprint on space or or an object or you know, I I I I'm familiar with all the sort of   arguments, but I couldn't tell you which is right and which is wrong. No. I suppose because I don't I've not been guided in that way. No. My my journey's taken me elsewhere.  

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Yeah. It's just something It's just really got me thinking because I've never looked at it that way before, but let's see what young Patrick thinks. Good evening, Patrick.   Hello. Are you alright, my friend? Can you hear me? We can hear you.  

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Oh, good. Yes. Good to hear your voice, old boy. Yeah. Good to hear yours too.   How's it going?   Groovy. Are you talking to Melissa? Both of you. Both of you.   Heavy conversation.  

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Yes. It is. What so what is your view? I don't know if you caught it all,   Patrick. Have I been masquerading with the devil?   Masquerading with the devil? You're talking about Halloween, aren't you? Well, not just Halloween. I'm saying about since I've Halloween. We're now. It's tomorrow.   I've been, you know, heavily involved in the spiritualist churches. It's been a massive part of my life, mediumship and things like that.   And lately, other church people that I've spoken to have said that I'm mass well, basically, masquerading with the devil.  

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How long have you been involved in that? Since I was 8 years old.   Oh, wow. Yeah. So was it something your parents brought you to?  

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Yeah. I can remember being taken to the 1st spiritualist church, and it was something that always intrigued me. And then when I got older, I sat in development circles. I used to chair the local spiritualist church, have monthly meetings and stuff, run my own circles,   sat in physical circles where   now I'm thinking, wow, was we again masquerading with the devil?   It just really got me thinking because I've, like, started getting into the bible a little bit. Well, not into the bible, but God and stuff.  

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Well, it's hard to tell, isn't it? I mean, it's like how how do you reference whether you're dealing with something that's good or bad?  

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Well, this is it. This is it. You know, it's like the the Ouija board, the spirit board, we've used that several times and had brilliant results. I've got one here in the house. Not that we use it anymore.   But, you know, I'm always aware   that where there's good, there's bad. And our teacher used to always say to us, light attracts light.  

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I I remember being in Russia,   and people are wanting to tell my future   with playing cards.   You you ever come across people you no. Not not tarot cards, but just like regular,   you know, like gambling poker cards. Mhmm. You ever you ever come across that? Yep.   Yeah.   I I find that   interesting in the sense that,   you you you kind of associate gambling with it.   So I the way I look at it, it's it's kind of a gamble. What you're dealing with is, you know,   you win, you lose type of type of scenario. I also had people who wanted to take I don't know if you ever heard of this where they take,   you'll have some Turkish coffee,   and then they'll turn the cup over. It's kinda like reading tea leaves except with coffee.  



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Oh, okay. You've you've you ever heard of that? Yeah. I've heard of that. Yeah. It is yeah. I've I've I've I've heard of that, but I didn't realize it. Yeah. I came across that in Russia as well. It's it's like, well, it is different.  

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But I I didn't I didn't participate because it's like my thought is as a as a Catholic is just you don't know what kind of spirits you're dealing with,   whether they're good or whether they're malicious, and it's just kind of   a a gamble.   And I just rather not gamble. And I just I got a an aversion to gambling   to begin with. But  

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I think Patrick Can I ask you? What do you think about this notion that, you know, everyone is assigned a   a a a familiar spirit, a a demon, or a or a fallen angel on earth to lead them down. If you look in the bible, if you look in the bible,  

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Jesus   tells it tells the the,   his disciples that   everyone   is born with an angel,   a guardian angel   to guard over them.   It's biblical.  

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Right. So, yeah, I do believe that. But what about people that are what about because there is another thing that people are assigned, you know, a a demon at birth to lead them down the wrong track. Rather, I suppose, like the devil and the angel on the on the  

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shoulder. I don't know. I don't I really don't know. I've heard people say that there are only, like, a third of the angels that were created  

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became evil, so that would kind of negate, you know, everyone having a Weren't they all cast down to a biblically, weren't they all cast down to earth   and out of heaven?   You mean the devils? The the The the the the Lucifer and his followers were were they not cast out of Yeah. That heaven and cast out of heaven.  

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Yeah. Exactly.   So as far as everyone having   a devil to tempt them, it's it's possible, but I don't know. I don't know of any biblical   reference to everyone having a devil. There's that idea in the cartoons   I used to watch as a child   where as a little child where you'd have,   an angel and a devil on your shoulder   kind of trying to tempt you.   So it's   I I think you've you've always got that   temptation   that like like Jesus in the desert being tempted after 40 days and 40 nights of fasting.   Yeah.   And,   yeah, there's always a temptation. I that's I think I think the devil does exist,   but he's he's already lost   in the sense because of Christ   coming to earth and and,   being resurrected from the dead. So   it just gives us hope that there's an afterlife and it's   there's a possibility of there being bliss, eternal bliss,   which is kind of, like, lead leads you to Halloween   because, you know, the the definition of Halloween,   what it's about.  



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It's about the 2 worlds being the closest, isn't it? The the veil was at the thinnest where you can connect apparently.  

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Well, there's kind that's got there's something to that.   The actual   meaning of it is   okay. So hallow, meaning holy or like a   saint, and then wien   is the eve, like like The hallow's eve.   Yeah. All well, it's all hallow's eve.   In the Catholic church,   we celebrate what's called All Saints Day the day after Halloween.   The day, you know, that yeah. Exact well, so   November 1st,   we celebrate   All Saints Day.   So all of the saints, everyone who's lived on earth that's died and gone to heaven, we we celebrate   them, especially the ones that have heroic stories about their life.   Their biography is just outstanding,   and we we remember them on All Saints Day.  

So it's All Hallows' Eve.   And whether,   you know, the modern   Halloween like we have here in America, I remember when I was little, you know, that we would have, trick or treating   where we dress up in ghoulish, you know, whatever it was,   costumes,   and   go door to door   in the in our town   and bring little buckets for the for the people that we'd knock on their door and we'd yell trick or treat, and then they'd they'd come out and they'd hand us candy,   and then we'd go to the next door,   to the next, you know, to the next house. Did any of them ever say trick?   Trick?  

Some did just to be to be silly.   I don't know what that   where where exactly this tradition comes from.   I think it it might have been,   you know, it's it's become kind of like Christmas   where it's it's kind   of commercialized   or just to the point where there are certain people, especially people who are against Christianity,   kinda use it as a way to ridicule   Christians.   Kinda like Santa Claus and the commercialism   where it's, you know, it's about getting drunk on, you know, and that kind of thing.   I I think it's gotten to to where it's kind of a mockery, some of this stuff.   But as far as, like, little children dressing up and going house to house, I think that's pretty harmless.  

And it actually is I think it points to the fact that you can say, well, there's a reason that we do all of this and that's because we have All Saints Day.   And that's why why this is occurring is because there's an actual purpose to it, which the name itself, All Hollow   All Hallows Eve,   All Saints   Eve, the day before, kinda like Christmas Eve,   where you're preparing to remember all of the saints who have died.   And so there's kind of it becomes an obsession with death that  

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it's scary story. It's massive in America, isn't it? I mean, over the years It's pretty big over here. It is. I said, my house, my lounge now is all decorated, and we've got a little party. We've been having one ever since lockdown, really.  

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Just a few kiddies and what have you. Yeah. I I think it could it could be because people would talk about stories, and and a lot of the Christian saints   that are honored on that day   lived   very,   terrible lives and the fact that they suffered a lot.   And a lot of them there were even people who were killed for their faith   in pretty gory ways. You think of the Colosseum and the Christians being thrown to lions and things   and gladiators   type type of scenario.   So   you you talk about those those stories, and it brings to mind all of the violent and, you know, just   scary,   fearful type,   situations. And I think that kind of sparked people's imagination that's just kinda grown out of that since   into what it is now. And then, like, in everything, it becomes commercial because the   the box in the the in your house that, you know, that you were talking about earlier   about the rectangle  

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where you get all your information and your No. Yeah. The rectangle babysitter that sits in the corner of the living room. Yeah. I know that. Exactly. The the thing is, no one's got the end. After they've done our days work, no one's got the energy to get past that.   Not very few people anyway, especially with all the you look at how society is structured nowadays with all the sort of mounting pressure of debt. You know, people are in-depth before they even leave ed education now. If they're already in the system, already a slave to the system before they start. Who's got the energy to start dealing with why the system works the way it does? Oh, no. I'll just switch on the box and and and, let it tell me.  

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Everything will be solved. Well, people used to sit around the campfire and tell stories, and that's kind of gone away, the storytelling aspect.   Instead, you wanna be told stories and you just become lazy.  

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Storytelling   went out the window when,   free   state schooling at the point of delivery   became a thing because it took all the children out of local community schools or the home.   And local community schools were all taught   by people, respected members of that community,   rather than somebody that had some qualification   in how to run a turn a school into a business and turn it into an academy, and then come up with their own you know? I've So that a lot of that's taken away, isn't it? You know? Yeah. I've I've heard that, a lot of it is because they didn't want children learning about the life of Jesus.   They also don't want peep they they want to have,   everyone be a round peg in a square hole so that they can hammer them in as hard as they can and say, stay there.  



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That's what they want. Think when we were at school,   maybe not you, Patrick, because you I think you were a little bit younger than us.  

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Quite a bit younger than us. Patrick was homeschooled anyway for the large part, weren't you? So you Well, not as not as a really youngster. I I was up until about 8th what we call 8th grade here.  

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But did you have, like, a regular school. We used to have,   like, hymn morning. We used to sing hymns in the morning.  

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See, that's something we didn't we'd I when I was   going through the government school, we didn't have that. The most we got in reference to god   was the pledge of allegiance   to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, 1 nation under God, indivisible,   with liberty   and justice for all.   That's about the extent of referencing God.   And I Yeah. We're on purpose.   Yeah. I bet you did. I I remember Andy Hitchcock talking about   having to say the Lord's prayer before.  

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Yeah. Yeah. Every morning. Every morning at assembly, we would start with saying the Lord's prayer. Right. That was that was good. And there'd be at least 2 hymns throughout the assembly. That was every morning. And on Friday mornings, we would have the local padre from the local church come and give the assembly.   And that was just a that was a alright. It was a it was a state school, but it was I was  

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largely But you have your state religion   your straight state religion, at least in in   name,   is Christian.   Yeah. And that's that's the reason. We had it kicked out, I'd say, in the fifties. It really became prominent with the Freemasons   coming in and saying, we're gonna have all, you know, taxpayers pay for government schooling,   and it's gonna be all religions.   And it's just nobody's gonna you know, you can't bring the bible into school eventually is what it became.   And a lot of schools here had the Catholic church had a lot of schools   that ended up closing down after the sixties seventies.  

And because, you know, you start paying taxes and it goes to the school,   that's competition to the Catholic schools   and they don't have the they wouldn't give money to the the religious schools so they'd shut down.   And it became to where you couldn't talk about Jesus   and his life and it's, a lot of it's because the Freemasons, the Judeo Freemasons,   didn't want children learning about   Jesus being crucified   and rising from the dead because they didn't want the people who crucified him being mentioned as the bad people.   Right? So   what better way to get people to forget about that story  

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than to stop telling it? Well, over here, it's been done in the name of multiculturalism,  

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and you can't sing Well, it's the same Christian heal. Yeah. Yeah. You can't do it. With the Freemasons. You you know how Freemasons operate. It's that they say, well, we accept all religions, but you can't bring the name of Jesus in here. It's just the creator, god,   that's about or the almighty or, you know, just some generic term, but never the name Jesus Christ,   because they don't that's really at at its heart, it's it's it's the whole   battle that, the persecutors of Jesus have have been waging against.  

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I wonder this is interesting, actually, because I wonder how this works with local   local schools   up in Wales. I've just come back from Wales. I was up in Wales last week visiting my son and and all that kind of thing.   Now   I was talking to my son and his girlfriend, and she was she was irritated because she wanted to move into a town that was just outside the city,   but   couldn't.   Because   guess what? What if you wanted to move up to Wales, Shelley because she's Welsh. Wanted. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. You're completely barking up the wrong tree, in fact. If you wanted to move   into a rural Welsh town,   what is the do you know what the,   stipulation   is?  



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No. The prereq Welsh.  

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You have to speak Welsh. Oh,  

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I like that, though.  

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Yeah. Oh, hey. I wonder where we get the word wean for for the eve. Is that a Welsh term, maybe? I don't know. Ween. I don't know. It's like Halloween Halloween.  

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It's obviously it's a angle cut. You know, it's either Latin or I will I will look it up at some point, but I think we're probably with just just over 10 minutes to go left on the show. You don't want me clicking Oh, no. No. No. Don't away in the background. Searching the book of knowledge.   Searching yeah. The book the book of someone else's knowledge that I don't have. Yeah.   So you have to speak well  

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Sorry.  

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Yeah. You have to speak Welsh in order to move to a rural town up in Wales. Now,   I I know she was irritated, but I said to her, I said, I actually kinda like that. That kinda makes me want to get the Cornish language reinstated. But you do real I I, of course, I realized that it was it was an EU directive brought in back in the nineties,   to revive the Cornish language. If only we'd embraced it, we could have said nobody to live in rural towns unless you speak Cornish.   Afraid not. Meh.  

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Off it. Well, I know with the Catholic schools, they would teach you they would teach you the vernacular language of the country you live in,   but also Latin, which is kind of a which was a universal language   Mhmm. That they spoke during the mass during Sundays.   The majority of it would be in Latin except for the gospels, which would be in the vernacular. So they would teach school children, little children how to speak Latin, and you'd at least have 2 languages that you can speak.   1 one in vernacular Well, Latin  

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was never really a spoken language, was it or was it? I thought it was more of a written language.  

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It well, they say they say it was more of a written language, but it's based it's the basis for   Italian French language.  

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Languages. Yeah.  

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Yeah. Aside from maybe German and English. English, you know, they're the less. They're not romantic languages. They're Germanic   type languages. English is even Germanic.  

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Yeah. It's we're descended from the Hun. That's why our language is descended from the Hun.   Yeah.  

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So The Kazarians.  

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Yeah. The Anglo and and obviously Anglo Anglo Saxon.   So Saxony, I think, is   the Hanlan Saxony, I think, is where our language comes from. I I'm I'm I'm pretty sure.  

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But Yeah. I looked into that a little bit. I I know I've read about the,   oh, what were they called? I can't even think of it now. But in Hungary,   you know, you get the word hun, Hungary.   Yeah. Like, Austria hung Hungarian   empire.   But over in   in Russia,   there's a group that they're called the Tatars.  

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And Oh, the Tartarians.  

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Yeah. Well, the Tart well, you got you get that word Tartarian, but   the Tatars are an actual ethnic   group, and they they look almost they look more Asian   than Western,   Aryan, you could say.   But   they they're actually goes back way back   and it's a kind of more of a Turkish type language that they speak   than than say, like, Russian, which is more Greek   sound sounding.   But they   had enclaves in Hungary   where   it dates back, like, 500 years.   So   it's just it's just interesting that that, you know, where where the languages come from and that sort of thing because   they're they're from all over, but European languages are very, you know, Latin centric.  

Even even like the Russian language, the pope   sent saint Cyril and Methodius   who were 22 saints that preach the gospel to the Slavic people   and gave them their alphabet. Like saint Cyril   is who we named the   the Cyrillic  

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alphabet after. Oh, okay.  

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It comes from the name of Saint Cyril   Okay. Who was sent by the pope to go to go write down the native language   and translate the the gospels into   that Slavic language that he learned and created an alphabet for.   And that's kinda like the that's the Catholic thing is   you go into a new place like in South America   and or even here for that matter with the Jesuits, early Jesuits, 500, 400 years ago.   And they would find the native people and they would write down their language. They would learn their language and then and then   translate the gospels from   from Latin, which is the common language of the church, to that to that language,   and they would come up with dictionaries and all sorts of things. So a lot of languages of native peoples are preserved   by the church in that way because they would send out missionaries   that would spend time   learning the culture   and trying to to,   preach preach the gospels to that to whichever   tribe they were they were going to. And that's how that's how   I think that's how civilization   spread. We call it Western Christian   civilization. Those two words go together together to describe civilization.  



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Yeah. And and it's it's well, from what you said, it's largely about traveling to different areas. I suppose phonetically learning their language and creating   symbols for those sounds that you don't actually  

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have letters for. Yeah. Well well, like, for for instance, where I'm from, it used to be a a long time ago before the American Revolution   part of,   New France,   or we'd call it Quebec.   So where I'm at in Wisconsin was actually Quebec territory   Right. And was under was ruled under the French king, the Bourbon monarch.   Yeah. Down to Louisiana, from the Mississippi down to Louisiana, and   he he sent out missionaries   who are typically Jesuits   out that spoke French.   So you have a lot of French names for things like I live near the Saint Croix River, which means Holy Cross. Yeah. And that feeds into the Mississippi,   and it goes down all the way to down to New Orleans.  

And there again, French Orleans.   And a lot of those people   founded this area.   And then as time went on after the French Revolution and Napoleon came,   there were there was less French influence   and more English influence.   That's why to to this day, we speak English, but we have a lot of French customs and Catholicism.   This is, like, one of the biggest countries   for Catholicism outside of Europe   in that regard. Right. So we we keep a lot of those customs.   And I think   the eve of all saints is one of those. So Halloween, that's the story of Halloween.   They're basing it off on   this day that we remember all of the saints.  



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Did so did you have anything to add to Halloween, Shelley?  

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No. No. I'm just That that was very interesting. It was. Well, that's it.   I swear, Patrick, your knowledge, like Maleficos says as well, you never set to amaze well, no. You amaze me all the time,   your depth of knowledge on stuff.  

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And I presume that's from me. If it was stored in zeros and ones, they'd be spilling out of his ears by now.  

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I'd I'd love to retain information like that, though.   And you as well with all your history stuff. But I suppose if you love something,   you can talk passionately  

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about it. It's it's funny, though. It's like with everyone. It's a journey. I can only talk passionately about what I'm studying at the moment, uncertain things that have stuck out in the past. You know, when I think back across the the last really,   I suppose revisionism wise and that kind of thing, looking into a different aspect of World War 1 and 2,   I forgot a lot of the things that I used to just be able   to just say off the top of my head because I'm much, much further down the road, and some things I just take for granted now. And I don't bother looking into that anymore. I'm bored of looking into it. And and then you end up forgetting the knowledge, you know, because you don't you don't use it often enough. You know?   I'm sure it's all stored in there somewhere. Like, all these biblical,   lines from the bible that I keep remembering. You know what I mean? They stuck out to me because they were poignant, because they,   they really, really meant something.  



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Well, there there's a okay. You're talking about seances and and all that kind of stuff.   There there's,   a line in the bible by Jesus that where he tells warns his disciples to test all spirits   to make sure that they're good and true.   And that's kind of what we need to to look at is, like, is is what you're dealing with   good?   Like, what is good what does it mean to be good? Why are we good? What what   qualities do we need in order to understand that something we're   dealing with   is   a benefit to us, or is it something that somebody's trying to manipulate us with? Or so, you know, like, we say an evil spirit, right, is trying to manipulate you like the devil, for instance, but it could just be people trying to manipulate you too.   I I could see people   doing that. You   it reminds me of the seance type thing that there's that, Orson Welles did the shadow radio playback in the day.  

And there is one where it's this con artist, and he's doing a seance, and he's trying to   he's trying to, you know, hide that he's stolen a secret weapon technology for building a bomb or a torpedo or something.   And he's using these seances to   to   to to manipulate people. I just I don't know. I stay away from that stuff. I don't I wouldn't have anything to do with it. I still I must reiterate,  

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Patrick. And if you haven't read it, definitely,   give it a it's only a short book. But The Screwtape Letters letters by CS Lewis. And I don't I don't you know, I know what some I I may not think of Yeah. The CS Lewis. Mind which in the wardrobe, all those. I read the document of Chronicles and But the the that's what I have is. That's what I have is.   Is definitely   definitely,   worth a read   when you think about, you know,   those those   fallen angels trying to drag you down the wrong path. You know? It's it's, it's interesting.  

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It sounds it, and I will get hold of that book. And on that note, I suppose we ought to come to a close   because I I always overrun and forget to play the end music and stuff. I started badly, so perhaps tonight, I'll get the Well I'll try music.   No. Thank you both for you. Inviting me on. Been too interested. Having me on. It's it's been We'll talk to you later. Yeah. Alright, my lovely. You're right. I've got a whole minute left.   Alright. Don't make me talk to myself for a whole minute.  

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No. Thank you thank you very much for having me on as well. It's it's it's and it's great to hear your voice and Patrick's because I haven't been in contact with anyone radio once through. On Skype.  

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I've not seen you pop up for ages.  

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No. And and you know what? I've   I've just taken time out to do other things. So one other thing that I'm working on is a is a I'm helping the AK Chesterton Trust, I e, candor out with a new book, which we're hoping to get up and running before Christmas.   The title of which   is rights   for whites.  

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Oh, now that does sound interesting.  

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Yeah. It's it's an it's an interesting one.  

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So I'm I'm kinda helping them out with that at the moment. So that's that's why I'm busy and not on Skype very much. No. That's alright. That's alright. Don't, you know, you don't have to apologize, but I thank you. It's been lovely to chat to you, Maleficast. And on that note, I'm gonna play out the sat the music and get it right.   Thank you for being a great guest, and thank you listeners. I'll be back the same   time next week.