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The Shelley Tasker Show is a dynamic, thought-provoking program hosted by Shelley Tasker every Wednesday at 7pm uk time. Hour 2 is Co-hosted with the great Mallificus Scott. The show offers insightful commentary, interviews, and discussions on current events, culture, and social issues. With a focus on honest dialogue and independent perspectives, The show provides an open space for exploring diverse viewpoints and tackling important topics with authenticity and thoughtfulness. Whether you’re looking for fresh takes on trending issues or in-depth conversations,


In this episode of the Shelley Tasker Show, Shelley welcomes back Andrew from 'Just an Ordinary Citizen' to discuss the tumultuous events of the past few weeks, including Andrew's recent ban from TikTok and Facebook. The conversation delves into the fifth anniversary of the first lockdown, reflecting on the surreal experiences and societal changes that have occurred since then. Shelley shares personal anecdotes from her time working on the NHS frontline during the pandemic, highlighting the strange and unsettling atmosphere of those early days.

Andrew shares insights into his investigative work, focusing on whistleblower stories that reveal shocking truths about child trafficking and systemic corruption. The discussion touches on the influence of media figures like Andrew Tate and the complexities of discerning truth in a world filled with misinformation. The episode also explores historical and current geopolitical issues, including the Balfour Declaration and the ongoing impact of global power dynamics. Shelley and Andrew engage in a candid conversation about the challenges of speaking out and the importance of seeking truth in today's world.

[00:01:31] Unknown:

Good evening, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the Shelley Tasker Show coming live out of radiosoapbox.com.   It's good to have your company.   Today's date is Wednesday,   03/19/2025.   Happy hump day, everybody.   Right. Well, I'm just waiting on the wonderful Andrew from just another just an ordinary citizen.   Andrew was with us a couple of weeks ago.   Since then,   lots has hap happened, I believe. He's been totally banned from TikTok.   I don't think he was on there for very long. Anyway,   we did speak a little while ago, and he's definitely coming.   So,   I'll just babble away for a few minutes until he makes an entrance, and,   hopefully, it won't be too long.  

So where were we   nearly five years ago?   We were nearly going into lockdown. Well, we were going into lockdown.   And Cornwall Live,   a local newspaper   in The UK for Cornwall or Cornwall Lies, I like to call it,   They've been   doing regular pieces   on the countdown to lockdown as they're calling it. So I'm gonna read you a little bit out of this.   Can you believe it was five years ago?   Where has that time gone? It's almost like living in a dream, isn't it, when you think back to all of the,   sit at the table, put your mask on when you stand up, and all of that palaver.   Anyway, let's have a little read of this.  

So very strange, subdued, unsettling atmosphere. Independent traders come to the rescue amid panic buying, and people flee into Cornwall.   IKEA closes all UK stores.   Crikey.   As fears grow over the coronavirus,   more and more people begin to avoid going out and order their shopping online instead.   Supermarkets   began to feel the strain too with panic buying by shoppers leading to a shortage of essential products.   Do you remember that? The whole no toilet roll,   scenario.   It's my birthday tomorrow, and it was,   yeah, five years ago. I actually my present, my joke present from my brother and his wife was a toilet roll.  

It seems very entertaining now.   Anyway,   some stores introduced a protected shopping hour for the elderly and vulnerable for them to shop safely   without the risk of getting COVID nineteen.   Arts organisations were also starting to cancel planned tours, while weddings and other planned events had to be postponed   as hotels shut function rooms over safety fears.   As the fifth anniversary of the first lockdown approaches on March,   Cornwall Live is revisiting headlines which our reporters covered from the time, from the spreading virus which encroached across our borders to the Conservative government response under Boris Johnson.   The pandemic strangeness soon became normal.  

From lockdown to tears to eat out to help out, the news coming through daily formed the backdrop to the tragic news of more than two hundred and thirty two thousand deaths within a couple of years.   I think that's bollocks.   This is called more lies, and we all well, most of you that are listening to this show, I'm presuming, are awake and know of, like, what things have been going on.   I don't believe actually, the deaths were any more in The UK than previous years. And, of course, the flu just disappeared, didn't it?   So those with loved ones who died from COVID and complications   related to the virus will live with the memory of those times and their grief forever.  

Weddings and events were set to be affected by a decision to close function rooms and restaurants at the Alverton Hotel in Truro and the Greenbank Hotel in Falmouth.   On March,   they said the changes would be in place for three months due to the coronavirus   pandemic.   The hotel said at the time, we will be in touch with all future guests as soon as possible to discuss further. We are devastated to make this call as we understand the impact this will have on some of our staff, the business, and guests staying with us.   Cornwall Live reported on the very strange atmosphere in a subdued Truro city center as the coronavirus   crisis ramped up. Our reporter said, there is an unsettling feeling that's palatable.  

Can you remember what it felt like? Can you remember what you felt like back then?   It's, quite harrowing, really, isn't it? I mean, I worked   on the front line.   I was a NHS   health care assistant working across three Cornwalls in hospital.   And I, like, probably lots of you, was actually really worried.   I was terrified, to be honest with you.   And I was waiting,   waiting, waiting,   because the hospitals went deadly quiet.   And it was at that point you're thinking, this is just the calm before the storm.   And, you know, there was tip-off to say at least fifty thousand people alone in Cornwall are gonna   die, but I also found this quite exciting.  

I know that sounds quite bad, doesn't it? But I can remember I was all sat here around on my birthday,   and this little bit of excitement,   but, you know, fear as well, I suppose.   Anyway, working in the hospitals, I saw that actually it just didn't happen.   I worked across three hospitals.   And when it got to the supposed height of the pandemic,   all of us Karnoflex workers were told that we had no work   and that we had to apply for universal credit.   So I was a bank worker.   And as you can imagine, working in a hospital, there's usually loads and loads of hours.   And one of the last shifts I did was a twelve hour shift on a particular ward, and I was made to clean the ward up twice because I think we worked with about four patients.  

And it was horrible. A twelve hour shift with nothing to do.   Everybody was hanging around doing nothing.   Hence, there was the time for the TikTok videos to be made. You know, when you look back at it now, how on earth did they have time to make these TikTok dancing videos?   You know, we were all so,   yeah, the hospitals were overwhelmed, overflowing,   yet,   we had time to make videos and stuff.   And I thought by now something's really something's really amiss here. And I was going out   banging my saucepans,   quite a united front,   for the first couple of weeks. Yeah. I was out there banging them. I can remember filming it, and it was weird. So weird. And I'd actually planted a couple of sunflower seeds, and I wanted to give one to the lady across the road. And I carried one over to her, and she took a piece of tissue out of her pocket and grabbed the pot out of my hand with the tissue. And I was like,   crikey. You know, this this is serious fearful stuff. And, you know, whenever I did get home from work, I would strip in the porch, clothes would go in a red bag straight in the washing machine,   and I would be straight in the shower.  

And, of course, the news was just terrifying, wasn't it? Because we were seeing all these images from China. And the ones I can remember seeing actually on my birthday   were people   walking,   walking in the street and just collapse control   that the   media have over us is just shocking. It's just shocking.   And I was absolutely   bricking it.   And my other half said, look. You don't have to work. You don't have to go to work.   Don't do it. But I was like, do you know what? This is my calling. If everybody that works in this profession says, you know, I'm not doing it, who's gonna look after these people?   And the few shifts that I was working before I had no work I mean, the roads, they were deathly, weren't they?  

Driving to work at half past six in the morning, the 08:30,   shut. No. Well, not shut, but I could just drive it by myself. I even dared myself a few times to, like, hit that hundred miles an hour   pedal because, it's not something I'd usually do. But I felt like I had the whole road to myself.   And, you know, we'd go into work, and there were security guards.   And I think now, like, the whole security guard   thing was to stop people coming in and filming   to see what was going on. You know, you couldn't just sign in anymore.   You weren't allowed to wear your uniform to work. You had to carry your uniform,   get changed in the changing room.  

And, again, as soon as you finish work, change your clothes again.   It's it's just crazy looking back on it. And I did that twelve hour shift on a Sunday, and I came home and had a bit of a rant on it on Facebook. Because when I was telling everybody   how empty the hospitals were, they looked at me like I was mad, like I was a liar,   and   I am not a liar. Most people that know me know that well, I don't know. I just find lying if I had to lie about something, I would find it really hard.   So that was basically when I started my mission, and,   I think that was my build up to doing the radio show, actually, because I'd wanted to do one for a long time. And then this all happened, and it was like, right. Let's go for it. We need to talk about things and stuff like that.  

So I had the text like many of the other Kurnoflex workers.   No work claim universal credit.   And mental. Mental. And when you tell people that, they just, no. No. You're lying. Well, I wasn't lying. I managed to pick up the odd shift at a care home. And by now, I mean, like most of you probably remember,   it was, like, the hottest   summer ever.   And, basically,   you know, you had to wear gloves, apron mask. You're just sweating buckets.   Anyway,   five years ago, that's all it was. So,   anyway, enough of me babbling   because Andrew has joined us.  

Let's just get Andrew to get his camera on and his microphone on. So we've got Andrew from Just an Ordinary Citizen.   He was on a couple of weeks ago, and we had a great chat. He's a journalist, investigator,   and, crikey, when we last spoke, I believe he hadn't spoke for, like, five days, and he's here.   Good evening, Andrew.   And you've just oh, you're there.   Can you hear me, Andrew?   It's it sounds hopeful.   I don't think Andrew is actually in this country at the moment, to be fair.   Can you hear us, Andrew?   You gotta love live radio, and, fingers crossed he'll be on in a second.  

Mister Andrew, are you there?   I'll give them a second. I'll keep babbling away. Sorry, everybody. So, yeah, basically, that's five years ago. And then it was like, when you actually saw what was going on, it's like, I can't keep my mouth closed about this.   And I started becoming really outspoken,   and I've never been like that before. I don't like arguing with people on social media and things like that, but I had to share what was happening. Of course, it caused a lot of people to ask questions.   Andrew, are you there?   I can hear you.  

He's there. I don't know what   oh, we've got an echo.   Probably setting up microphone or something. Can you hear me, Andrew?  

[00:13:13] Unknown:

Yes. I can hear you.   Woo hoo. I'm sorry. I was, I had problems getting on. My my fault. I apologize for that. It's where I am at the moment, so I apologize. I tried to put the, I tried to put the video on, but that wasn't working either. But at least I've got the audio on there. It's not some problem.  

[00:13:29] Unknown:

Yeah. Great stuff. So, I mean, you're not even in this country at the moment, are you? No. I've had to go abroad,  

[00:13:35] Unknown:

for a couple of reasons. So, no. I'm actually, I'm actually international at the moment. So I had a bit of a problem from the mountains,   dialing into your show. So but, thankfully, I'm now here. So I apologize for that. That's right. No no worries at all. I was just explaining,  

[00:13:49] Unknown:

when I first came on that you've had a couple of mental weeks, and you're now totally banned from TikTok.  

[00:13:55] Unknown:

Absolutely.   Yeah. It's been a bit crazy. In fact, actually yeah. Today, I actually been, I got a ban from Facebook even though I've only posted one short video, and,   I've appealed it and I'm back on apparently, but, that won't last too long. I I don't think so. Yeah. It's been a bit of a crazy, crazy few weeks for me at the moment. Since I was on your show, I used to add.  

[00:14:16] Unknown:

Well, at least you've been busy. I I too. Have you actually slept? Have you slept this time?  

[00:14:22] Unknown:

Well,   the thing is that that that that really, I think I think it's what what what's been coming out with the whistleblower has had a an awful lot to do with it, Shelley. And and I think, the more you highlight these things, the harder it is for me to get that information out. And then, of course, that leaves you open to attack, which is which is really what happened. So, I'm more than happy to share with you who did it and and why, but, that's up to you.  

[00:14:44] Unknown:

Yes. Let's let's start at the beginning then, the whistle blowing story. Who are we talking about? Okay. Well, we had three major whistle blows,  

[00:14:52] Unknown:

to, that came forward. And that is many more, to be honest with you. But three that we've we started on, first of all, was, Victoria, the honest midwife,   and she's been on a on a on a journey,   quite a bit of a journey, actually, with with regard to her situation.   And many people may have seen her on Twitter or exes now, and and and she's   whistle blown on the NHS and the the involvement of the male doctors and and so on. So so that's been kind of that was already in in process. And and then my second one was with, Annie the Greek, which I'll come back to because I think that's, the one that's that's, probably important in this particular situation. And third one is the,   was the wonderful Karina, who is a TV journalist, a German lady. And she was or is,   under a lot of threat, both, mentally and physically. She was kidnapped   by the state. She wrote a book about it. Her children were   taken from her,   and she's not being able to get any recompense with the authorities to understand why the children were taken away from her with her with her ex partner.  

And it's a bit of a story. So her life is threatened, and she's   moving location on a regular basis because,   she's being intimidated and so on. So so that that that story was being told on TikTok, and I was interviewing her,   on the night it happened, which was last Thursday. And it's it's about forty two minutes into the story. It was it was quite emotional.   Everybody that was on that that that live that was with us, I think there was, I think, over 3,000 people had been in the room   and to listen to her story. And and it's not something that she's she's she's hidden. I mean, she's she's written a book about it. And   this really is her coming out now to tell a story on the on the media, but it's something she's tried to fight from behind the scenes, but she's never at desperate temp now to to find it where her children are. And this has been on for two years,   and the intimidation has been attempts on her life. She's had,   people in her in her in her house.  

She's had stalking. She's had so much done to us. So so during this live stream, it was going very well, actually, and I I felt that we were getting some of my interviews with her. There was some subject that we couldn't talk about,   because that might be a little bit damaging to to a particular case.   And then it just went dead.   And,   I I thought,   hang on. I've got three TikTok   accounts. I've had one violation.   I have, no violations on the livestream.   So why why would it be taken down?   And there lies a story as to as to what's happened over the last week, which has been pretty horrific with, with what what how it's been treated and the way that my my IT and my my phones have all been targeted.   Right.  



[00:17:34] Unknown:

So the this lady, can you give us a bit more info? She lost her children. Her her husband took the children.  

[00:17:43] Unknown:

Yeah. I I I gave a bit of info. Yeah. Karina approached me some time ago.   And Karina is a, I said she'd been twenty five years as a television journalist.   She's from a middle class background.   Her family,   which I don't want to go too much detail, but her family,   have never been in trouble before. They've been,   very much engaged   in in normal everyday family life.   And there was one Christmas a couple of years ago. She came home from, from the the Christmas markets,   with her with her two children.   And as she walked in the door, there was, her husband was sitting, on there, or partner, she say, was sitting on the sofa.   A normal everyday appearance getting ready for Christmas, and there was a knock at the door.  

And she opened the door, and and and and there was some,   police,   violence here at police. Yeah. You're talking about,   more in terms of the secret service police. What we're talking about are the equivalent of an MI five who showed showed themselves, showed their ID. Everything was above border. Husband then walked through to the other room, and she stood in the kitchen with these two gentlemen.   And then she heard her children   and her children   crying.   And, they were with her husband or her partner. And the two gentlemen were explained to her that the children were being taken into care.   And she, of course,   was flabbergasted. She had no idea why and and and she she, of course, broke down.  

And she couldn't understand why the the the German services were there at her home.   And there lies the story. So that was two years ago last Christmas.   And since then, she's,   she had a life threatened,   twice. She had to move. She's moved seven times in the last two years.   Her seek, location is secret. She has her own television channel. She's starting up now. And it sounds really bizarre because she she can't get any,   information from the police or from the, from authorities, her lawyers. I can't get any information as to whether the children or indeed why the children were taken.   So she's put them blank.  

And it's an incredible story from her. And and she is just trying now to advertise,   what really has happened. And she's willing to go into a lot of detail, but she was very emotional that night during our live. And and I felt I had to take it very carefully because it's it's one of these things that you you you don't want to push too far.   So for two years, she's tried to find her children.   It would appear that the children and the   father have,   have, disappeared.   And   her father,   so her her, the father children and his father   are   very well established within the freemasonry.  

And I'm not gonna try and link between her. I can't really speak for that, but but there are too many things that she's told me in private that have, correlated to the fact that these children have   been possibly moved to be trafficked, which, is happening a lot in Germany at the moment with social service are taking children. And there's about 220,000   children a year go missing.   And,   she feels as though her children may have been trafficked, but we don't yet know.   That's horrendous.  

[00:20:48] Unknown:

Oh my gosh. It's well, it's every parent's worst nightmare, isn't it?   And she she got no reason in at all why they've taken disappeared.  

[00:20:59] Unknown:

No. She's been to it's a bit different in Germany.   So was where was one of the places she was at, as for example. And and she would go to local mayor's office, and the mayor's they're they're very much involved in the kind of district court. So so the mayor has a lot of responsibility and can can evoke things. So to look after the the social services, we come under each of the district. She's been to see the mayor and start out with him, and and he won't give an explanation. And then, of course,   they she then tries for the lawyers to get, the the case brought into court. But because   she has no information as to where the children's whereabouts, she has to set papers on her partner and her partner is not going to be found. So so to rate an abstentia, she needs to mayor to approve it, and the mayor won't approve it.  

So the lawyers can't help. The police will not count as a missile, missing persons case because the children   are under the the ward of the father as well as the mother there, and he has every right to keep them, and therefore do not need to involve the the other parents. So it's quite difficult. The German law is a little bit different for us in The UK. So so she's not able to even go down the road. The children are being kidnapped.   And   that is really where it's shocking. And she tells me that   she's not the only case, and she has a regularly between ten and twenty people every week visit our website and send them information about their children. So it seems to be quite a a large a large situation going on. So it it's it's frightening. It always feels unbelievable, to be honest with you. But  

[00:22:20] Unknown:

it, yes. It was it was a hard one to take for me last Thursday. Yeah. I bet. Oh, bless her heart. Are you able to share that website with us at all, Andrew?  

[00:22:29] Unknown:

Yeah.   It's quite a complicated long website, but I will, I will I will I'll I'll mail it to you if if that's okay. If I can ask,   I'll get you for your next hours program. I'll I'll send it over to you after we finish it. So No worries.   20 letters long, so it's, better. So, my name is Karina, and she's she's written a story. And and, actually, on my website, you will see the book. The book is a really good read, and it and it talks about how she's been a happy   parent growing up, loved her partner, children were very happy, couldn't go to school, and everything seemed normal. She had no indication whatsoever   until that night of December 18,   where she had no idea why her children were taken. And, it talks about her her journey since the since 2022 more than the life prior to that because some of the information there is a bit sensitive. She wants to try and use that for the court case. So, yeah, it's I'll I'll I'll send you the information. No problem. Yeah. No worries. No worries. So what is yeah. Sorry. Carry on.  

No. No. No. I was gonna say that that that that that whole thing. Emily was on that live that listened to the stream and watched stream with it with know,   that it was really a,   it was it was heartrending. And and and I I   as a parent myself and a grandparent now, but as a parent, I could not imagine my worst nightmare, children being taken away from you, and yet you have nothing you can do about it.   And she's just spending every day searching for them every day,   hoping to see a glimpse of them somewhere or find somebody that knows them.   They are ex part part of this family   have have blanked her.  

They refused to give her any information and it almost feels as though it's not real. In other words, really, it's it's   it feels as though that she is,   not sure telling a lie or making it up, of course, but it almost feels that you can't believe that really does go on. So yeah. So I'll,   I'll send the tune. It's really worth looking at. And and then that would say, why was my life brought down, and why is my   why have my   socials been attacked? Why is my phone's been attacked? Why is my computer being attacked?   When it relates back to to the other whistleblower,   I need the Greek. So,   yeah, I can tell you about that if if if you'd like, Shelley. Please, sir. Please do. Okay. So it's quite an intricate story. So Annie approached me about six months ago,   and Annie is of Greek descent. She's a Greek Cypriot.  

She   hasn't had a normal life or she never had a normal life, and she grew up in the island of Cyprus.   Her mother   is actually the love child of a former president of Cyprus,   and her father was the head of the Cypriot secret services   or the CIS, it's called.   And he was a very senior man. He resigned the thing in 02/2014,   I think, to to do other work,   for the government, but he's very much involved in in in everything   you would imagine a shady, murky world to be involved in when you're in that type of   business. And   when she came to me, it was almost an unbelievable story again.  

It's not that you don't trust whistleblowers, but you have to make sure that that they're all above board and you you and you and you're able to verify everything. Otherwise, you would look pretty stupid doing something like that. But so when she came to me with all the information, she sent me documents. She sent me photographs. She sent me information which which I could check out. And with the help of some very good people in the, anonymous collective,   we were able   to to go and look at that information,   and find it out and really qualify everything.  

And the qualification really related to the fact that she   is the daughter of this gentleman. She   has, since the age of five, been abused,   by   not only her parents,   but   uncles, aunties,   and friends of family,   and much, much more.   Throughout her teens, she was trafficked for €50,   for   spending time with her.   And   she was   beaten   and   raped many, many, many times.   That was until the age of 42.   So she was not only trafficked   when she was young,   she was   then pushed towards prostitution   and everything else,   in her adult life, but being kept   a group of hotels and and basements and and all these sort of things.  

And she was   really,   drugged to the eyeballs from a very young early age. So part of her memory may have been missing and that was what we had to kind of fill in the blanks.   And during our investigations,   on checking her out,   we were able to find the hotels that she was kept in. We were able to verify them. We were able to verify the villas that she was retained and tortured in.   We're also able to verify the information that she gave us,   and I won't go too much graphic detail, but, on the child trafficking that her father was involved in from Cyprus,   two very wealthy clients in the West, including The UK.  

So the documents that she gave us related to   the purchases of these, children,   and also where the children were taken from and the shipping routes that were shipped from and conjunction also with the meth labs, the the drugs labs,   including the cocaine ones as well. So so she was able to give us absolutely everything. So we're able to map it all out.   And, of course, during that time,   we were able to get a good feeling as to   the trade from that region,   into Europe and who was responsible. And it comes down to the fact that she was very much involved,   as a as a as   a as a   child and then become an adult,   in not being complicit with this trade, but being part of that group and seeing everything that went on. And the children who then got used and then were used for the organs at at later stage. So   she managed to escape Cyprus.  

She disappeared to Russia. She got a a she wrote directly to president Putin, which I've seen the documents.   Putin responded,   in a way that that only a president can do so, and she was whisked away from Saint Cyprus and put to safe haven in   in in in Russia.   And   having that whole story with her,   she said, I think during the end of our our live, we had we had twelve, ten, 12 thousand people in that live, a huge amount of people that got a lot of publicity.   And   when she when she when she finished that live, I think one part of her question was was,   does my father still love me?  

And, of course, when you're an abused victim Mhmm. And you've been abused by the father, he's kind of protecting you but but selling you. And, of course, he doesn't love you. You're a trophy to him. And that was quite hard for it to take. It was quite upsetting. So I had that conversation with her. We had as a very good moderators, which were super with them. We showed her a lot of love.   And that's kind of the story with with her, and and she   has really,   furnished us with a huge amount of information,   which,   I passed to the authorities, but, of course, authorities are, of course, not willing to invest these things into Paul and so forth at the moment. But our idea was to try to publicize the case.  

And I upset a lot of people by doing that. And those people then came after me. So   that's kind of where the story goes to to where I'm at the moment in terms of of of what happened to me that Thursday. So whilst I was doing another live, it they decided to attack all my information,   at a specific time.   And, only somebody with that technology   with, with with the wherefore, you know how to do it. And that's   now found out it was down to,   this gentleman and a team of people trying to, to stop information coming out. Pretty scary, to be honest with you. Yeah. I can imagine. You're lucky you still got your website up at the moment.   Yeah. I mean, they've already tried to attack that many, many times, and and and the beauty of the website is that we are able to the website I see it, whilst you'll see the address you'll you'll type in, it's it's actually mixed into maybe five five different,   parameters. And what I mean by that is it   is it's like a torrent. It's broken down into into dopes and pieces, and it reforms itself at another place. And you have to know the encrypted data from a to b, c to d, to e to f, and then somewhere else in ether to actually get to it. But we don't hold any information on that website. So we the website is set address itself has been removed five times. So it's very hard for them to track down, but they're continuing trying to do so.  

But the more we we we we more information we put out, the more they'll try it, and and we will just open up another one of that at a later stage if that happens.  

[00:31:10] Unknown:

Crikey.   Crikey. I don't know how you carry on living your life like this.   You're  

[00:31:15] Unknown:

That was a no. He's swapping with you for a couple of weeks.  

[00:31:20] Unknown:

Yeah. Oh, no.   It's,   I mean, it's harrowing, the stuff that you're sharing, and we do need to see this. And I don't know whether it's just, like, coincidence, but   I'm seeing so much on, like, certain documentaries at the moment about sex trafficking,   mind control,   you know, all of these murders that have been linked to   young girls being, well, groomed, basically,   mind controlled. It's pretty frightening, really.   And, I mean, I know, there's this big thing at the moment that people have watched this Netflix documentary,   The Adolescence or something.  

But it's just about, like, the people like Andrew Tate and how much they actually influence   our children's Yeah. Teen's life. And I'd never really   watched him before. Have you seen him before?  

[00:32:11] Unknown:

Yeah. Yeah. I've actually I've spoken to him before, actually.   He he he uses a good analogy, and he's not everybody's cup of tea. He's not particularly likable,   and he's in it for himself. And and there's some some things about whether or not he is, let's see, being he's one of them, if that makes any sense to you. So in other words, he's just a stooch just like just like a Tommy Robinson or a Katie Hopkins or whoever. You know, it's knowing who to trust. And and he amused an analogy, and and his analogy was when I spoke to him once. It was about, you know, you put everything in plain sight.   And what I meant by that is if I have a box of apples at my front door and they have poison in them and you pick up an apple and you do it on your own volition   and you die,   then, of course, it's my fault because I've actually put that box of apples which are poisonous. So, therefore, I'm told you.  

But if I put a small sticker on the side of that box saying these are poisonous and you still don't see the sticker but you pick up the apple and eat it, then whose fault is it? It's not Andrew Tate's fault. It's actually you for taking the apple and not paying attention. And that's what we do. It's called put everything in plain sight, and that's how we described it. And this for me, it was quite a good analogy because everything they they're telling us in these documentaries and and and they're making almost pedophilia   as normal as an example   because they're they're putting it everywhere   that it almost becomes part of the fact that they're telling us.  

And then we just accept it and we keep accepting it by   by by allowing it to happen then it is giving us a contract with them saying, well, we all agree it's okay. Well, it's not okay because we don't really see that. But that's why you're seeing it at the moment, I think. This is a great awakening of people. Yet this in place is coming out. They're trying to almost offset it by showing things   that are relatively normal to us in life, which is really abnormal. I think by putting these things in Netflix and others, they're putting it in plain sight to us yet they're telling us a story. That's what I believe. Right. Okay. And I mean, it's interesting because, obviously, we gotta remember when you watch these things that they're trying to sell us an idea, a story, so to speak.  

[00:34:06] Unknown:

And lots of people are massive fans of Andrew Tate.   But interestingly, like my partner, he works at a school, was the IT manager.   They've they've actually banned   all web information   links to anything to do with Andrew Tate because they see him as such a threat.   But then is this the other side putting that idea into everybody's heads?   I don't I watched a quick, like, video of him on YouTube because I'm intrigued now,   And he seemed very weird.   But, I mean, you you gotta go a bit further than that to do some research on first impressions.   But it's just interesting how this whole   program is about, basically, they call it intel or something, don't they,   if you're influenced   by these influencers,   so to speak.  



[00:34:52] Unknown:

Well, they they they they exert that. And and and Angie Tay, I I pick a couple of things. Angie Tay, when he got arrested for the child trafficking and the and the and the charges with him and his brother, if you noticed that when he was taken away in the van, they actually the the side of the van was open, and the photographer   happened to be standing in the right place to take a photograph on the van as if being arrested and whisked away. So so this it was a staged   event where   photographs were taking the right place, and I I   Donald Trump is a great example. Donald Trump, when he was, let's say, the attempted assassination,   when you saw what happened,   forget about the guy in the roof and why they didn't spot him, etcetera, etcetera. The the key telling point, and I spoke to one of the Secret Services guys about this, that that that they would not allow anybody that was taking a pot shot at the present for him to get up and then pump his fist in front of the flag, which he did do. So remember the very famous photograph of the, the star spangled banner and with with with his bleeding from the right ear and his and his fist pump showing that he wasn't gonna be that was all staged because the secret service guys would have nailed him on the floor and dragged Donald Trump a safely way by protecting his whole body. They would not have allowed him to stand up and, indeed, wouldn't have allowed to make a fist bump from a flag. It just wouldn't happen. So so so the theater that we're in at the moment is all stage event, and I think Andrew Tate is one of them. I just think he's he's somebody that the staging and he's got 3,000,000 followers and they'll just listen to everything he says. And then and, therefore, he's able to exert a lot of influence. And I think that goes with with everybody that's out there that that that you see as an element of influence.  

That I I just don't trust any of them. And it's not what I'll trust at the moment.  

[00:36:31] Unknown:

No. You've got me thinking though now, actually. You've really got me thinking about what everybody's saying about this program. And if this guy is nice, but what people have done to make him out to be bad, but then I don't know who he is. I just, I I can't give it to you. Yeah. I mean, surely. I mean, Tommy Robinson's a great example of that. Yes. Tommy Robinson  

[00:36:49] Unknown:

Good. Good. Is is   yeah. Well, the thing is that that that I wish Tommy Robinson was a good guy. I don't believe he is. This is my own personal opinion. I've seen documents of how he was paid,   how he was paid by Rebel News, how he was paid from The US, all the the,   his,   and this gets gets   you a lot of hate in some respects, but but I have to say it as tell him I see it, he's paid by influential   people in New York who are,   very high up in the, state of Israel. Now   you don't get him getting paid like that and then going against the immigration and which I also is another issue, but he can garner such massive support.   And and he is a guy who who has been badly treated when you look at the police and dealing with them and why he was he was arrested by the court.  

Then, yes, I agree the fact that grooming gangs documentary was amazing.   And it highlighted that,   but the bigger picture that was a small play. The bigger picture is people are feeling sorry for him, and they're following him.   But he's paid by Israel.   Now you can't get   Israel's   for me, is at the base of everything's wrong in this world.   And when I see that, it's paid by them.   That gives me a nervous part, and I would love to be wrong.   And if I'm wrong, then I'm wrong. But I I I take everyone now at at not at face value anymore. I look at it until I can convince myself, and I'm not convinced he's doing it for the right reasons.   I would love to be wrong. Love to be wrong. No. I'm not as well because the same  

[00:38:14] Unknown:

reasons as you. I see that some lots of good stuff that he's done, but, like, I've seen like, you've just said about the connections to Israel and stuff like that. And it's like, but how?  

[00:38:24] Unknown:

Yeah. I don't know. I don't know. It doesn't and and I'll refer back to Netflix, for example. You you mentioned about Netflix.   And this one you can check for yourself. On the February 4 in 2020,   '2 sorry. Twenty fifth 2024. Sorry.   There was a   real accident, a place called East Palestine.   Palestine, not Palestine.   Palestine in Ohio.   It's a small town, 10,000 people in the middle of nowhere, 20 miles from the largest,   from the largest town. And there was a   and there was a a junction where nine,   carriages of a rail carts from Norfolk Southern Railway,   had an accident.  

And the chemical company, the spillages   caused   massive,   impact to the local community so much so that,   one in four of those residents in that community now have cancer.   Now,   the air was filled of this PVC and and and and it's it's probably I can't remember the name of the chemical now. And I looked at it. I thought,   that's a really strange place because there's a very slow response from Biden, you know, and and there's things that didn't feel right at the time. And I looked at it. And Norfolk Southern, the real company, are owned by,   BlackRock, funnily enough, majority shareholder.  

And then the chemical company,   was Vanguard.   BlackRock, Vanguard are the biggest investors in each other, two American companies.   And then I looked at it. I'm thinking,   that's terrible. And then I was told by somebody   that there was a movie made called White Noise on Netflix,   and that movie came out a year   before   that accident.   Guess what? It's at the same place, same same crossroads, same number of carriages,   same mail company, same chemical company,   and the same thing happened.   Now,   ironically,   the residence of that,   of the,   the the the East Palestine it happened in East Palestine, by the way, which is at the exact same place. They played the extras in that movie.  

So a year before it really happened, the movie came out.   Exactly same people.   Exactly same situation. Male company, same male characters. So it's called white noise. You take it on it. And to make a movie, it takes   twelve to eighteen months roughly beforehand.   And I contacted,   Alvin Wells, who I know.   I said, Devon, the screenwriter of that play of that movie,   can you tell me a little bit about them and what actually happened? How could you write that a year before it happened? In the same place in America, you couldn't pick it on that place. Why did it have to be at the same place? And he came back and said to me,   the screenwriter didn't write it, but he's got the credits and get paid for it. I said, well, who did write it?  

I don't know.   Nobody knows. Wow. So the script came from now the biggest investor in Netflix, funnily enough, is BlackRock and Vanguard.   Right? So   now this is not about people having conspiracies here. That's a coincidence.   Beyond coincidence, it doesn't happen.   You can't write a movie eighteen months before a movie came out and then something happened a year later after movie came out in the same small place, the same companies,   and exactly the same situation. Doesn't happen. So they're   talking about things in plain sight. They're making it,   normal for us to see these things. So people don't bat an eyelid.  

It was in a movie already.   That's a shame.   That type of thing's happening all the time.  

[00:41:42] Unknown:

Yeah. I know I know it's the whole, like, whole conspiracy thing, but I think you're right because it's the the whole story, like, of the Titanic as well. A book was written about that before that even happened.  

[00:41:53] Unknown:

Yeah. I mean,   the thing is it or I think it was called the book. I mean, there's lots of talk about about   the Titanic and and the other ships involved and all these little things. But but and whether JP Morgan, why do they all leave the ship before it went before it took sail? And all their competitors died, you know, and all these things. But but these these are things that I I you can quantify a little bit.   But I think there's some there's some telling case of that that because   if we look back in history, in 02/2017,   there was a an article in, the New York Post or New York Times, sorry,   which said about sick the holocaust of 6,000,000   Jews. That that figure 6,000,000. Mhmm. In 1921,   there was articles written about the holocaust of 6,000,000   Jews. Right? Mhmm. And this is well before second World War. Right? Then you start to see the documents, and it says in those documents   at that time that the Israelis were looking to set up a place for the Jews in 1921.  

Now the Balfour Declaration in 1917   was signed between the UK government   and one of the Rothschilds.   We sold   Palestine   to the Rothschilds.   We sold it.   UK, I mean. Mhmm.   Now all that happened in 1970, Balfour papers. The and we can go research it. It's at the it's in the national archives. I'm not making up. You can go research that itself. But if you start to look   at why was Palestine sold to Rothschilds?   Why in 1917 did the talk about 6,000,000?   There's a figure that gets me. 6,000,000 holocaust.   It's also said 1921,   and it's all massive public records on all these newspapers.  

You don't start talking about these things   before the second world war. Let me hear 6,000,000, and I'm not saying having been to crack on, been to terrorist pits. I've seen it all in it. It's heartbreaking.   But if you start to see something, a bigger picture that actually   starts to make me feel sick because I'm starting to look at things, how the things have played out. And   having   researched a lot of this and spent a lot of time looking into things,   I I really   I'm becoming almost,   I'm not blase to it, Shelley.  

[00:43:57] Unknown:

But I I I don't trust anything anymore. No. I know what you're saying. But this topic, unfortunately,   you know, is mentioned a lot, isn't it? And you're not allowed where you can discuss it in a way,   but you can't really question it big time outside the box because   you can't be a holocaust denier. You can't question it. It's the one thing you can't question.  

[00:44:24] Unknown:

Emotive, powerful,   situation. I mean, I have I haven't been to Auschwitz in Birkenau, which is even worse.   It's horrific, and it's it's sickening. It really is sickening. And, you know, if you go to Krakow, if you look at the ghettos that were were cleared by the Nazis and you look at how many people do they kill,   you know, but my question goes back to this. Why was 1971   sold? And why 1970 was it in the papers? Why 1921 is it augmented?   And it's almost like it's leading up to something so big that that the state of Israel when it's formed,   that is where everything   everything is is is is is being put together.  

And people are not allowed to talk about it because because it really has seemed to be subject.   But I've you look at it all. If you speak honestly about it, there's so many things that don't make a lot of sense now. And and and I'm I'm I'm going on to it's dangerous territory to talk about it, but   it should be right to question   why why was this all mentioned and why would this why was it sold? Why was Palestine sold? And then why in the year February   was   Palestine with the asset arvoicing, we've we've now found the gold. And in other words, we found oil and gas and and Palestinian people will benefit from this, which was which been great.   But then what happened is   in 2023,   or sorry, twenty twenty twenty   four, in the May, there was a document signed between BP and the Israeli government   taking over the ownership of those oil fields   and the gas fields. Hang on. Palestine owned that, not Israel.  

And on the board of BP at that time was a guy called John Sawyer who was the head of MI six.   Right? So you start to say, well, why would that be allowed to happen   when actually Palestine owned that oil and for gas reserves, not Israel? And why did BP   sign the contract with Israel? And why did the European Commission sign the contract   with that as well?   And what rights do they have when actually it didn't belong to to Israel? So so we're looking at all of this   and it starts to become   a bit of a mismatch and and people are uncomfortable about it. They don't like talking about it, but   just by saying that sort of information, it should maybe maybe make people think as to   why is all this going on? It's not just about the oil and gas. It's not just about the Silk Road. It's not just about the canal. It's a bigger picture about this because   it's starting to now come to a a like a like a a a fruition or something something big is happening.  

We're not seeing the bigger picture unless we start putting a piece of jigsaw together. And it's it's difficult. Difficult one, Shirley, to talk about. I know. I know. It's something that I've wanted to go. Somewhere I've wanted to go lots of times, but, you know,  

[00:46:59] Unknown:

yes. I I don't wanna get I don't wanna get you banned, but but but It's not about bad, is it? It's about hate speech and even I don't know. I think because there's so many people that have been to prison for approaching this subject   and saying things and their beliefs, they've been put in prison.   And it's like, well, I'm not going to prison for airing what I believe. Do you know what I mean? It's it's a sad Yeah. Yeah. Sorrowful way, unfortunately.  

[00:47:21] Unknown:

We haven't got free speech. Yeah. I mean, the thing is it is it's for me,   It's not about hate. It's because I I want the world to be in in live in peace and harmony. I want us all to be happy and and and I want wars to stop. Right? And I the the killing of people regardless of of what society is doing it is not is not acceptable to to us as people. We shouldn't be at war with any war, and and the only people that create the war are the arms manufacturers and governments.   And and we, the people, are the ones who suffer, and the poor Palestinian suffer, the poor Israelis suffer, you know, the poor Ukrainians suffer, the poor Russian suffer. You know, wherever that war is, there will be innocent people   that see dying for for for reasons that of the warmongering. And it's it's just it's saddening. It really saddening. And and I just wish that 8,000,000,000 people in this planet would just stand up as one and say enough is enough, and then we can stop it. But sadly, that's not gonna happen. No. I don't think it is, unfortunately.  



[00:48:13] Unknown:

You know, it's it's well, I think about it often, really. We're not you know, what's the world gonna be like when I pop my clogs? You know, hopefully, that won't be for, like, twenty, thirty years, at least.   Yeah. But Yeah. You know, you worry about your children and stuff. I mean, wars have been going on since the end of time, and it's just money, money, money, isn't it? All about wealth.   Somebody asked a simple question of child, I think, the other day. It was it was something on the lines, like, why can't each country just look after their own country, provide food, everything? Just really simple stuff, to be honest with you.   And from Yeah. From a child's perspective, that should be simple really because I get it as well.  

But,  

[00:48:49] Unknown:

no. It's If children if children run the government, we've been in a better place, to be honest with you.  

[00:48:54] Unknown:

I think you're right. Wow. No. It's interesting to talk about that because we are gonna do a show at some point, myself and Maleficus as well. You'll have to come on as well, but about the Balfour declaration   and stuff because,   oh, I love it. I looked into it heavily at the start of,   you know, the war in Ukraine and everything like that, but it's not Ukraine. Sorry. Palestine and It it is a little secret, Shelley. It's a little secret for you.  

[00:49:17] Unknown:

I have actually I got a tip-off from a very good friend of mine,   and   we went to find   the,   the grave   of the gentleman,   which is not where they say it is.   It's not even where the Balfour Monument is. It's actually in the grounds   of a private house.   And in that graveyard, I've been there. And I haven't I was gonna do something on it, in the past, but, obviously,   I've I've run out of time.   And and and, obviously and I went there and and and   I went with with my friend and I, we went and,   I was videoing. We were being followed.   And this was this and I've got the videos of it. It was a Range Rover kept telling us, and and and these country roads and where we were, this wouldn't happen. And we had to sneak   into these private grounds.  

It was like and there was gunshots going off and there there was a shoot going on. Nothing to do. We should ask.   But we found the grave.   And around this grave, there are   emblems   that relate to something pretty significant.   And I know I can something I would go into,   but let me tell you.   What I saw shocked me   because I expected it just to be a a former politician,   etcetera, etcetera. But around this particular grave, there are   signatures and one or two other things,   and it does relate to the second World War.   So so I haven't finished investigations on that, but it it is a really it's a really interesting thing. And and and this this the person who tipped me off,   I found it by by   by mistake   and took me on and had a look. And it's it's cameras everywhere to get in there. It's it's pretty hairy to get in.  

But masking and,   yeah, let let let's say that the the the grave is not what I expected and it's it's been moved or has was always been the same place   on the grounds of this house. And it's quite hard to get to. But once you get through the the   the bushes and everything else to get there and and the fence and avoid all the cameras,   it it it it it's something that that shocked me. And it's insignias.   There's   much much more to it than than you would just think normally. So it's it's quite an exciting find and shocking, but but I need to do a bit more research. I just haven't managed to do it yet. But, what I saw initially was was surprised me. Wow. Wow. I'm looking forward to that one then.  

[00:51:46] Unknown:

So we've only got ten minutes left, Andrew. Where's the time gone?   Where where do you wanna do. Yeah. Well,   it's okay. I'm grateful that you turned up.  

[00:51:56] Unknown:

No. Where do you wanna go now? We've got ten minutes, my lovely. Yeah. I I I just need to to just to to say very quickly then,   what has happened on the live last week? Let let me explain how these things go because I think that's for any of your listeners that that were here and and I and I will,   I will I I know that people have been on a journey. So I I lost three accounts,   just like that.   And   usually when you lose an account in TikTok, what you would do is you would then simply go and open up another email and use it. But what I had, I had three separate devices that it was on. Okay? So so so bearing in mind, these are three separate accounts.   They are separate devices.  

They are not linked. They are pay as you go.   The cash pay as you go, by the way.   They are all used separate VPNs, so different VPNs,   all with masking an IP address.   And   at 07:42,   all the three of   them went down at one time.   They all stopped. So if it was one, one IP address, I would say that. That's what happens. This was three separate,   telephones,   three separate   numbers,   and three separate IP addresses with three separate VPNs. So completely unrelated.   Now the only way that technology could be used against me to bring that all down   would have been for them to coordinate it the location, the wrong same location. Mhmm. And you'd had to use the five g towers to do that.  

Now they're triangulate it. Now I've spoken to some very good technical people since then.   And   what has happened is that they have followed those devices   or they follow devices,   and they have technology which will be able to find a device that you work with.   Even if I didn't own it and I didn't show, but they were able to map   wherever I'd gone   and and and and and location of these particular part. And the person's home that was in   unrelated to me   also had their device hit.   Right? So and completely annihilated because,   this person   has never posted on TikTok. He just watches videos.  

So they sent a signal   from   wherever they sent it from directly to the device at the one location I was at. It was pinpointed.   And it the technology for that, it could only be done with secured services.   Now that's a scary thing because it one location, one home,   and four devices. Three of them were mine, one was other person's,   and all separate IP addresses.   And there's no way that you could you could do that unless you tracked all of those. So so when they're triangulating things, when they look at things, they'll use it to bounce off different towers. And they were able to identify everything that I had.   Now that sounds quite unrealistic, but then you can't then use them. So these devices,   they send something to my device which has really stopped them from from reconfiguring.  

And even   if I, in fact, reset one of them or two of them or three of them, whenever you download somebody at a different location,   I'm using a VPN, something else, and logging on to, let's say,   a a a Wi Fi system that is not related to you completely far away from there. They still had that technology   to stop those phones   from being able to log on to a to a TikTok as an example, even to create something. So your your phone will go crazy. If you download the app again, it's a it's a different location,   not using,   an   any SIM, just on the phone, just the phone this time.  

They were still able   to have that phone. So whatever technology they've used, not only did they get it through   and damaged, let's say, the system come in, but also got it into the phone. So the phones were then infected. That was three phones and and one of, my friends.   Now that made it really kind of scary because at the end of the day, they they've used that technology to stop that.   Those those accounts that I had then went to private on TikTok.   Right? So even though they said TikTok said to me, which one TikTok said that I've been permanently banned, Those accounts were still there, and they switched them to private.   They did that to look at the messages.  

So we're able to go and have a look Right. And look at messages afterwards. And then, of course, now they've been deleted from TikTok altogether. So I wasn't able to appeal the ban. So so they they deactivated   them   and will not allow me access. So so the technology they've used was very clever, and it's pretty scary. So they can track everything you do. So for me, it's about   understanding   how far they've gone.   And it almost again sounds unrealistic,   but it's simply down to the fact that it had to be somebody   that was   well versed in this. And I spoke to two people who you were who used to be with signals, who were the British intelligence for for the set of thing, and it was them that helped me understand what really happened. Pretty scary, Shelley.  



[00:56:49] Unknown:

Yeah. I can imagine.   I mean,   it   it no. It's scary. And I mean, I would I've read I've put a couple of videos up on,   TikTok, and I don't know how much they listen. I don't know if it's to do with the titles.   But I mentioned Kevin Trails, and I think I put it in my title. And that was deleted.   But,   yeah.  

[00:57:10] Unknown:

No. And and even even even people post videos of my content,   some of them that that that they get taken down straight away or and it may and these are videos that they put on without any interaction for me, but they have used one of my videos. And they don't all happen, but but that happens a lot. And and every video I used to post on TikTok used to take an hour and a half to even load. So in other words, you checked it through and and and and then bring it down straight away or whatever. And and when I got traction, it was the lives that I was getting the traction with, and that really was damaging them. So that's why now I don't think I'll get back on TikTok. And they've they've gone after my my ex account. They went after my, obviously,   the Facebook I had, which has only five people on it now that that that they they banned me from that. So even though it's banned for life, they let me back on, then they banned me again. So so it's something I'm gonna have to put up with, Shelley. And, I'll say to anybody that's listening is just   be careful what you post because they will know everything you do.  

But we all have to stand up together. So in other words, you've got to make that that decision. Are you in or you're out? If you just play at it, then it doesn't help anybody and put yourself at risk.   Wow. It is you. Yeah. Yeah.  

[00:58:16] Unknown:

Good, good closing point there, my lovely.   Well, thank you, Andrew.   Oh, that was Well, welcome. Good idea. I love it. I like it when you just go off on a tangent. Anyway, we've gone to the Balfour definition and stuff like that. It's nice to have a really good chat. I know there's so many topics we can discuss, and, you must come back on again in a few weeks. Try and make it regular. Yeah. Absolutely. Love to do that. That'd be lovely, Shelley. Brilliant stuff. Alright, my lovely. Well, yes. People, do go to Andrew's website. It's   j0   sorry. Ja0c.org.uk   for justanordinarycitizen.orguk.  

And it is just full of information about his investigations,   stuff that he's looked into, loads of documents to download and stuff. Yeah. Go and have a look. Well, Andrew, thank you so much, my lovely.   And, I'll let him get back to your evening and, yeah, chill out a bit and try and get some sleep.  

[00:59:11] Unknown:

Yeah. We'll do it. And listen and and and, last time I think we spoke, I didn't have any sleep for for three days, so I used a couple of words I shouldn't have used. So, thank you for that. We're back on to correct that. And and to say a different bit there is is that   Oh, and he's gone. Give your loved ones a hug every night. Tell me you love them because, you know, life can change sometimes, and and let's skip at it. So, yeah. Thank you for watching this, Shelley. You're very welcome. You take care, my lovely, and I'll speak to you soon. See you, Andrew. Thanks, Shelley. Bye bye. Thanks, Shelley. Thank you. Bye bye.  

[00:59:41] Unknown:

Wow.   Look forward to him coming back in a few weeks. So we will be back after this short song,   and I will be back with the awesome mister Maleficar Scott, and we will be discussing more of his dad's book,   Hidden Government.   See you in a couple of minutes.  

[01:00:11] Unknown:

What you're doing, who you're seeing,   where you're going, where you've been.   What's your number? I   coming.   So much confusion   you're done. There's a   stop coming.   There's a   stop coming.   No more evil   in my land.  

[01:02:55] Unknown:

Boom. And that was a storm. That was my father, mister Graham Hart.   Mister Maleficar Scott, you are on mute.   Not very well prepared, are you?   No. I'm not. Oh, there you are. You're back. You're back. Hang on. Let me   add us   to   the picture   and get rid of that.   Good evening.   Good evening. How are you? I'm very well. Thank you. How are you?  

[01:03:28] Unknown:

Knackered. I gotta be honest. I'm absolutely   knackered.   I've,   no. I've been, what have I been doing today?   Carrying   around two and a half meter railway sleepers to build steps out of.   Yeah. Oh, how cool. It's a physical job.   Every every every   every week, it's a physical job. So Yeah. But you're getting a workout at the same time, aren't you? It's a paid workout. That's what I say. I always say it's a paid workout. You can't complain,   You know? And, you know, if you don't   I'm nearly 50. I'm knocking on 50. So like, if you don't use it, you lose it, don't you? You know? They reckon after you're 60, you lose something like 2% of your, strength a year. Oh, I didn't know that. 60. I think it's something something like 2% of your strength a year. So you imagine, you know, after ten years,  

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it's 20% of your strength. Oh, don't you? You get to I ache a lot now and everything.  

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You ain't 60 yet. Yeah. I know.  

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It's my birthday tomorrow.   I will be 21. Yeah. No. I will be 48.   Yeah. Yeah.   So I was just saying at the start of the show, actually, the first hour, like, going back five years  

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now, we were just going into lockdown. Yeah. Crazy, ain't it? Five years ago. Oh, yeah. It's another one of those times that we put a label on. You know?  

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A moment in history, Maleficus. You love your history.  

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Yeah. I know. But, I mean,   it it's it's almost like we get these things time stamped for us by   government bodies   so that, you know, like, people look back, oh, the COVID era. And it's like, you know what? Life is supposed to just continue.  

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You know? We're not supposed to check none of the things. You can reflect. Can't you? You can. And our our favorite news channel, Cornwall Lies,   they've been posting regular updates of the news five years ago, just for memorial purposes.   Oh, of course. Of the comments now are brilliant. It's worth looking at them just for the comments. But Oh, I will. I I, you know, I don't often,  

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jump on there.  

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But, yeah, I will. But it did make me think back earlier. Yeah. I was like, crikey. Yeah. My brother and his wife gave me a toilet roll for a birthday present. Started   laughing.  

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Yeah. Oh, man.   So, yeah, this week, I I I've gotta give it a mention. I know it's been all over the news and blah blah because they all like to glorify it and everything, but and rightly so, we had the last Battle of Britain pilot   die   this week on Monday. Oh, okay. A guy   yeah. An Irish guy, and and he died on Saint Patrick's Day. So I hope he died having a drink or something. You know?   I think he had something like 17 or 19 kills, you know, in in total.   And, crikey, I think he was shot down over The UK, like, at least three times.   And I think he was also shot down over Italy at one point, and I think it was Italian partisans helped him escape the Germans. And,   yeah. So, you know, hundred and five years old.  

Hundred and five years old. So, you know, everyone that says history is old and dusty and it remains in books, no, it doesn't. It literally doesn't. That was living history. That was a guy who actually fought in the Battle of Britain flying hurricanes. Well, I was in a nursing home on Friday. I picked up a shift, and,  

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I was speaking to a lady   who was   just turned a hundred.   And she was telling me that she was she was she is German.   She was in Germany   when they invaded,   stuff like that.   I didn't feel that I could go to, like,   into it. Didn't can't Yeah. I'm not. To Hellstorm there.   Oh, I'm reading this great book.   I just said it must have been horrific for you, and I just, like I was like, come on. Talk to me. But, no, she wasn't gonna go there. Bless her.  

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Well, I mean, I I think I'm not being funny.   A lot of people, because I've spoken to we used to look after a guy. I can't mention his name, obviously, but we used to help look after a guy who turned a hundred when, you know, we were helping look after him. He he died he he lasted to a hundred and one, but he was present on the Normandy Beaches, you know, in the in the D Day landings. And,   I said, what, you know, what was it like? What was it like? And and he said, oh, well,   can't remember much about it, really. He said, but he he said,   I think he was in France for two weeks, and he said he took a bullet in the shoulder. He said, left a mark, I can tell you.  

But that was the war over for him. He was shipped home after that. You know? So,   yeah, lucky, really. Yeah. Very lucky. Lucky. You know? Yeah.   Yeah. Crazy. But, you know, hundred and five years old, as I say, and just the very thought that in   in your twenties, in your early twenties, when most of us I mean,   I'm not can't even say on radio probably what I was doing while I was in my twenties, or at least I wouldn't promote that sort of behavior.   But, you know,   while, you know, in in that era for me, I was just   couldn't give a toss about the world. You know? And these guys were throwing themselves up in aircraft and, you know, as I've said before, surrounded by fuel tanks, because where else are you gonna put the fuel in an aircraft? It's in the wings and in the in the literally just behind the dashboard and all that kind of thing with people firing, like,   explosive and incendiary rounds at them. You know? I mean, that's that's  

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I'd need it. Excitable tonight. Arms going and swinging.   Oh, I am. Yeah. Well Are you always like that? Really, like, expressive with your hands.  

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I'm quite animated, yeah, most of the time. As I say, my head's really quite as big. Before. It's probably because you've got No. When I have seen you, you've had, like, a pint in your hand or something, and you're restrained. Yeah. I I'm I'm only on a half pint this evening. Look. I I've only got a half pint there. But, typically, I'm a grandpa. Half after. Yeah. After the show. Yeah. Why not? Yeah. Well, I've Yeah. Knocked my drink in. I've only done one night  

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to half a bottle of wine.   I on Monday, I went to fat club. I signed in. I paid my registration fees.   Oh, you gotta go now then. Oh, yeah. I will. I'm gonna do it, Manifika.   And she was actually really good. I mean, they're there to sell you to, like, do it, wasn't it? And I just kept saying to her, because you have a little meeting   for, like, ten minutes before everybody starts weighing in the excitement of the week and stuff. And,   she said that she you know, what's your main problem? Blah blah blah blah. And I thought, actually, perhaps I should be going to an AA group. But I said,   you know, wine is my problem, I think, for calories and stuff. And she said, well, what what are you gonna be doing soon? And I said, hopefully going on holiday in ten weeks. And she's like, right. You want that body for on the beach. What's more important?  

That wine every night? Or can you imagine how you'd feel on the beach in your in your bikini looking good? And I was like, yeah. You're selling it to me. She put me Right. Yeah. She put me in the zone.   And Motivational speaking. Yeah. Like it. Yes. I did. Yeah. And then I then I was sat there, like, in within the group. There's probably about 25 of us, and they go around to everybody to see how much they've lost each week and stuff. And then she brings out these bags   because they're doing donations for Cancer UK.   And now I'm sat there, and I'm and she's telling, you know, like, well, when we can find a cure, blah blah blah, all the money goes for this. And I'm thinking, Shelley, you're not in the right place. It's not gonna be about things like this because I'll be putting my hand up and saying, do you know about the Cancer nineteen thirty nine Act and stuff like that?  

Exactly. You know? So, anyway, once we got through that, I relaxed, and I just settled. I hate hearing lies. Little pensive moment where you're gripping your chair with those guys. Yeah. Yeah.   I feel I need to speak.   So, anyway, I've made that commitment of paying £5 a week. So   Right. Well, well then 95. Sorry. Inflation.  

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Sometimes that's as much motivation as you need because you think I'm paying for this. I'm gonna give you the daughter said, mom, I can give you the the recipes for slimming world. I can tell you what to do. I said, I I know that, but the  

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I   said, I I know that. But the point is, I did I did it years ago when I lost the weight. And I feel that going in month weekly   and having my weight shouted out how much of a loss or gain I've had, that will entice me on. And there's some people there that have lost, like, five stone. And I mean Yeah. Crikey. I mean, I only wanna lose a stone.   So she's like, you could go down a dress size maybe too. I was like, yes. Yes.   So anyway Oh, yeah. I'm I'm on the you know, and I've already poured tonight's half a bottle of wine into two glasses, but I can't touch it until half past nine. Half past nine is my new   drink your half a bottle of wine time, that make it less. Oh, okay. So that would normally be,  

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for me, half past nine. I never used to have a drink before half past nine. I'll tell you why. It's because that's when I could guarantee that the kids were in bed. I could relax and enjoy it. Yeah.   So,  

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yeah, I that that's and and by then, the night's ticking on, isn't it, as well? So you don't get you don't get as much time to to get through as much as you would. Well, I'm trying to do, like, one sleep a week at work as well. So, obviously, I can't drink when I'm at work. So, Yeah. Of course. You know? And it's not like I think that I'm an alcoholic. It's purely to do. If I didn't wanna lose this weight I mean, I'm not just stopping I am doing other things like the recipes and stuff like that, which is weird because, like, we all know that you're supposed to eat   good proper butter, full fat foods, and stuff like that. Mhmm. They're good for you, but, obviously,   they are higher calories. And if you're wanting to lose weight,   then you have to make a few changes, don't you, for a while? Yeah. So, anyway, it's,  

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this is the road to the mountain. You're not doing the whole silly thing of I'm only going to eat, like, one apple a day or something silly like that. Because as essentially, I mean, that that's what I was gonna say about the whole sort of fasting thing. If you if you try fasting too much, your body just goes into starvation mode   and thinks, well, I don't know what I'm gonna eat again, so I'm gonna be as conservative as possible with the reserves that I have.   So   you end up you know, when you do eat, your body thinks, well,   crikey. I might go through another period of not eating, so I'm gonna store all that up.  

Do you know what I mean? So there is that side of it as well.   But, no, good on you. And it's it's one of those   do you know what?   I am sure you will accomplish what you want to because you you are no. You are very motivated, and, you know, you're you're bloody headstrong as well. So I have had two chocolate chip cookies today, but they're only tiny.  

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And I've I've walked a lot today.   Come on. I've I've made so many changes in two days, you know,   cutting the fat of the bacon and the oh, bacon is the fat is the best bit.  

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Well, it is when you crisp it up. Yeah. Yeah. It's lovely. Mind you. Do you know what? When I worked in cremation   I   when I worked in cremation eat in some of the dogs and stuff. Anyone if anyone   overcooked bacon, like, if you burnt the rind on the bacon, I couldn't eat it because of the smell.  

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Oh, okay.   Nice.   But now you can as long as it's not burnt.  

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As long as it's not burnt. No. That that smell of burnt bacon fat. Like, burnt. I'm not talking like you mean. Caramelized. I'm talking blackened burnt. Yeah.   Yeah. That's so similar,   honestly.   So, yeah, if someone if someone cooked a bacon sandwich and they overcook the bacon, I was like, sorry. Can't eat it. Yeah. Yeah. Someone else smells, yeah, do that to you, isn't it?   But it's fun. It's funny story. And I'm gonna lower the tone slightly. Sorry. But when I went and had a vasectomy.  

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Right. Even oh my god. Maleficus.  

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Right. So no. This is this is actually quite funny. So they they they asked me what I did for a living, and I said, well, I actually work in cremation.   Okay.   So he's he's out. I'm numbed up, and he's, you know, made incisions, and he's pulling out tubes and   and cutting them.   And,   they used to just cut the tube and tie it in a knot.   That's what they used to do.   But nowadays they cauterize it with a laser.   And there were these little wisps of smoke coming up, you know, just from sort of down there somewhere.   And I was like,   God, smells like work.  

I was a bit nervous at the time as you can imagine, but, yeah. So that kinda just came out. But there you go. Didn't mean to share with you and the audience more than you wanted to know. No. No. That's what it is. It is. It's funny. It's alright. When I when I overshare, and I am well known for oversharing,  

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somebody I've just met, I'll be telling them my birth story and things like that. But no. I'm just surprised that you just come up. Well, when I had my vasectomy.   Oh, okay. Well  

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well, you know, I've I've had three kids. I've done my bit for humanity.   And,   you know,   I don't think I could cope with having a fourth, I've got to be honest.  

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Darren's on the waiting list.  

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Bless him. Is he? He is. Yeah. Is he? Telling he needs a tight pair of underpants.   Oh,  

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I have lowered the tone. I haven't I. I'm sorry. No. It's good to have a laugh. And on that note, okay Yes. I   I found a couple of clips, actually. They're not very long. And I'm only gonna play one of them because one of them, I think you probably need to see the video. I'll send it to you. And,   you know, bad humor that we're not allowed  

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anymore. Yes.  

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And,   I'm just gonna you will hear the sound because it's on my, Facebook page.   Do you remember the good old days?   Was it Little Britain?   Oh, yes. Yeah. And they were quite,   oh, I thought they were hilarious. To play some of those episodes anymore, are they? No. They're not. But this one is he's just he's dressed as a policeman,   and he's been given a board game. Okay? So I'm gonna play it.   Okay.  

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Oh, hang on. Let me put this in. Immigration game for five to eight year olds.   Yeah. It's very simple.   This white figure here is an immigration officer, and you are one of these whores of black, brown, and yellow figures. And the object of the game is to gain unlawful access into The United Kingdom Of Great Britain. So we roll the dice. Score. One, two, three, four. Pick a card.   You have smuggled yourself into the country on the back of a lorry. Move forward one square.   Pick a card.  

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You get the job as a medium. I can't actually hear it. She'll move forward five squares.  

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One, two, three. Oh, what shape? Can't I don't know if the audience can hear it then. A terrorist cell is discovered in your local place of work. I won't keep playing it just in case, but I can always post that link. I need to sort those things. I was trying to work out how to You've got to tell us the crux of it now. You've gotta tell the crux of it.   It's the illegal immigration game for five to eight year olds,   and it's, like, one to   50 or something.   And his counters is, like, this one white person and this one black person, and they're all figures, you know, with different colors and stuff, but they've just,   he's just rolled the dice. He's got four. Oh, number four.  

You have successfully   arrived illegally under a boat or something. Move forward one. But it goes round the board game saying all of these things, how to get in the country and stuff. You have successfully Yeah. Gained, access to our welfare system, basically, and things like that. Anyway Yeah. Yeah. Very funny. Yeah. And I just thought I'll start saving some of these, but, obviously, I need to work out a way so you can hear them and, obviously, the listeners.   So, anyway Yeah. It was gonna be a bit of comedy, but no good if nobody can hear it. So Well, yeah, I get the gist, though. That's good. That's good. I like it. I do like a bit of dark humor and the funny things that we're not allowed to watch anymore because you don't get you know, like, Catherine Tate, she does a short sketch. And I don't wanna offend anybody listening, but there is always the topic of ginger hair. And and I I don't know why because if you see someone and you ex I was explaining someone my roofer, actually, I'm sure he's not listening, to somebody the other day. And I went, yeah. He's he's a lovely guy, actually. He's got ginger hair. And I don't know why I said that because I wouldn't say, oh, it's Darren. He's got black hair.   I I don't know what this stigma is. We just can't help it. But on Catherine Tate, she does a sketch   when they go into a ginger,   place refuge, ginger refuge. That's it. And all the women in there are gingers, but there's one lady that's got dark hair, but she's got a really ginger baby.  

And she's saying to her, I can't believe you've had to flee because of your ginger baby.   And she said, but you're fine. You're brunette. And she said, yeah. But I'm not down there.   Anyway, it's just comical, but you couldn't have   those things anymore, could you? I mean, we just don't get comedy where you're allowed to rip the mickey out of people anymore. And I'm sorry if there's any ginger listeners. It really doesn't bother me.  

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No. My dog's Ginger.  

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My daughter, all of her best friends growing up with Ginger, you know. It's really weird.   Anyway  

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Well, yeah. I mean, the thing is Ginger, it it normally stands out because, a kid's ridicule. That's right. The ridicule comes from from kids who always pick holes in any difference that any other child's got. You know?   And I think I think it really it just stems from that. It's it's a bit of a rarity.   But you know what?   You know, ginger hair is only really found in the Celtic races and the Nordic races, isn't it? So,   there's something   there's something great about that. I like that. I mean, he's one of the things we were talking about,   I was talking about with my dad the other day because he was talking about facial recognition cameras.  

He said they're going up everywhere. I said, yeah. I know, dad. I know. It's been happening. You know, ASDA's had facial recognition for, like, two, three, four, five years. I don't know how long.   And he said over in China, he said   they've got two he said, really, really high quality cameras. And he said, they've got two cameras   for every   no. What was it?   There's a there's a camera for every two people in China.   And you think China makes up a third of the world's population,   just about.   So in China, for every two people, there's a camera.   Do you know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah. It doesn't sound like that. High definition,   yeah, facial recognition, all that kind of thing. And,   yeah, and and he you know, I said to my dad, I said, that must be it must be really good because, obviously, all Chinese people and this is not me being racist or anything like that. But all Chinese people have dark hair. They all have dark eyes.  

But, you know and   I don't know. I suppose Chinese probably say about the English, oh, they all look the same, but I suppose you do you know what I mean? There is that whole thing that there is a certain genetic trait that is Chinese. You know?   And for us, you know, obviously,   from from about two weeks old, you can differentiate between your own race and other other races.   And,   you know, so   I suppose it's   just   natural to differentiate.   And for anyone outside those races, well, they all kind of look the same, don't they? You know? But that's only because of an inbuilt thing that you naturally   differentiate   or naturally are drawn towards your own,   you know, as I say, from about two weeks old. So,   yeah.  

Talking of facial recognition and all this nonsense, I was talking to our good friend, mister Von Kurt,   yesterday,   and he bought himself a nice new van,   shiny, shiny, lovely,   got himself some insurance.   Have you heard of Telemetric   Insurance?   No. No. I hadn't either. So I don't know whether this is a new one on just on us,   or whether any of the listeners can say, oh, it's been around for this long. I haven't even looked into it. But telemetric insurance   requires you to have your phone on you   with location switched on   at all times   that you're in the car.  



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Really? Is this an English company?   Wow. Yes.  

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Yes.   So   that being the case,   you know, obviously, your insurance do you remember you it started off this this is how things work incrementally. Just notch by notch, they'll turn up the the pressure. You know? So   quite a few years back,   probably about twenty years ago now,   young kids were starting to get really stung for car insurance. So   what the insurance companies did is they bought out these little black boxes, which monitors your driving.   And if your little black box says you've been a nice and good driver and and you behaved appropriately on the road and not accelerated too fast and not broke you know, used your brakes too heavily and all that,   you know, you're it's reflected in your insurance premium.  

So, obviously,   you know,   rock on,   fifteen, twenty years. We've now got this telemetric insurance, which requires you to have   one of the most invasive   devices on the planet.   It requires you to have that on you in the car with your location data switched on   so they can monitor   you. And of course, everyone's going   to go for it because it will take your insurance. Well, of course, it's cheaper if we do it this way. Is it going to make a difference to whether they pay out on your insurance claim? Probably not.   But   that is so, so invasive.  



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You know? It's wow. Crikey. I mean, if you imagine, I suppose, if you,   did something and, like, reversed into a car and they saw you and you tried denying   it, usually I suppose it's to stop them, pay it out more as well for people that do do things like that because they'll say, well, we know we knew where you were at that location, though. You were there at that location.   Yeah. Of  

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course. Of course. But,   you know, this is just another   this is just another   insidious,   cancerous vein that is being pumped in you know, being,   driven into society.   It really is.   So   it's,   yeah, it's just   another   turning up of the incremental pressure that they are putting on society in order   to   bring society under a centralized rule.   So, anyway, we've just got Warren here in in the chat. So Ginger Harris comment in Iran, Iraq, Kurdistan, Afghanistan,   Denmark, Scotland, Germany,   and Ireland.   There you go. See? I knew it was sort of Nordic. The ginger  

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conversation going. So I've had Patrick's put two memes in the group chat already about ginger. As he as  

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he haven't looked.  

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Oh, people are awful.   I love laughing at things like that. But, you know, and I don't mind if people take the Mickey out of me and eat. I go for it. That's okay. Patrick.  

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That's dreadful.   I never realized that was an anagram.   Yeah. Yeah.   Yeah. I never realized ginger was an anagram. You could make an anagram out of ginger, but and that's you know? And they are ostracized in some ways just as much.   You know? It's it's it's a derogatory term in that respect. You know? If you say, oh, no. Not that ginger.   Curse word. You know?   I have to say, my first girlfriend was Ginger,   and I've had some really good mates over the years that have been Ginger. And my dog's Ginger, so I'm not a ginger phobe. Alright?  

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No. What was really bad was because I was at playgroup today with my granddaughter, and there's a young woman in there. And we've talked about she is ginger, and her daughter's ginger.   And,   I was talking to another lady about the videos on TikTok and stuff. And,   I had to keep my mouth quiet. I wanted to play her that video. And,   I almost thought, shall I show my ginger friend this? Because she did laugh last time, but   I'm I'm not gonna risk it.   Yeah. It may not may not be advised. No. I know. And I do I tell you what, I love it. And I love the red. I feel like I've really dug a hole   here. No. I'm not moaning. I've got dyed hair. Okay? I'll put myself down. I've got some gray hairs. Well, I don't I've hardly got any, so don't worry about it. You know?  



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You know? If I I if I can have  

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Actually, I'm not sure I would. I don't   know. No. I have actually I have actually got   before it start because okay. So you probably can't see, but my my beard's starting to go gray.   And the the   the the hairs that went gray first on my beard were ginger.  

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So, obviously, it's not good. People have got red in their hair naturally. I know from doing photography,   it'll quite often pick up the highlights. And I've had   a parent   before in the past say you've made my sudden look ginger. And I'm like, it's not it's the lighting. I'm sorry, but your kid has got those colors   in his hair. It's just showed it more. Yeah. But, Like it or no? Yeah.   Yeah. Well, some of the adults I knew, she used to always say when she was pregnant, oh, I hope it's not ginger. I just really it was she was a hairdresser. And do you know what? He was Ginger, but a nice, auburn of Ginger. Yeah. But, I mean, Christ, you're like, you're not gonna love it any less.  

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Of course. You know?   You know, I I went to I went to school with a guy that was Ginger, and he used to say, it's not Ginger. It's strawberry blonde. Yep.   Yeah. You know? And because there's the whole stigma attached to it. You know? But it's it's it's just hair at the end of the day, like I say. I I yeah. I don't know whether I would have ginger hair, though, if I quite quite happy as I am.  

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But at least you're at least you're growing old gracefully, Manefikas.  

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There's no other way to grow old. Not wearing a wig. You're not I mean, I feel for Oh, I was thinking about getting a Trump toupee, actually. Oh, it would be it would be fun each week, wouldn't it, just for the show? I wouldn't be able to take it seriously. Yeah. I do. But Yeah. I know. Yeah. Yeah. See, as a woman, I just think it's harder. I do. I my god. I I I I don't know. I just you've gotta you've just gotta have it in your head that you're aging like a fine wine, haven't you? I mean, this is pointless getting,   you know, getting worried about it. You know? I just   I was talking to my the lady that I was doing work for this morning. We we opened the garden to the garden society and all that kind of thing today. So there was a lot of stuff to mess about doing before they arrived.  

And she was so, so stressed. And I said, look. Do you want me to just meet and greet for you when, yeah, when they arrive, and then you can sort of deal with them afterwards? And   she went, oh, I don't know really.   She said, I don't know.   I said, look. I, you know, I I don't have a problem speaking to people at all. I said, I think it started from when I was, you know, when I lived up in Edinburgh, we used to busk for a living.   And my first ever time busking   oh, man. Excuse my French, but I shit myself. You know what I mean?   And I was up there with me, mate.  

Well, not literally. That would have been really embarrassing.   But, no, I was up there with my mate, and I just knew it was then after the next song, he was gonna, like, take off his guitar and give it to me and say, go on. You have a go. And I was just I was dreading it. So I I picked the one and only tune that I knew I could definitely go all the way through   with my eyes shut.   Right?   Which I duly did.   And I finished playing   and singing and yelling.   And I opened my eyes,   and everyone was just still going about their business. You know? And I suddenly realized, do you know what? I'm through with having peers.   Not you you know, obviously, you've got your parents, and you, you know, you've you've got those that you love and those that you respect. But I'm just   we are the the in the world mainly, we are surrounded by idiots, Shelley. I mean, they all went out and bought toilet roll. I'm not gonna have any of those people as my peers.  

You know? So, yeah, I think it's my general lack of respect for humanity as a whole. I'm just quite confident. I don't care. You know?   And I don't obviously, I don't mean that   literally. I do have absolute respect for humanity. Otherwise, I wouldn't be sat here doing what we're doing. You know? But,   yeah, some some of the people way. Yeah.   Yeah. I'd I'd yeah. I'm through having peers. You know, you spend enough time as a kid, you know, worrying about what people are gonna think and stuff. But when does that end? You know? Are you gonna go through your whole life thinking like that?   I'm not.  

I'm not at all. So what a waste of time. Yeah. You know? I'm just gonna go about my day. And if people don't like it, then, you know?   And I think that's another thing that's why   people like us are sort of able to,   you know, go and seek out the truth because we're not as we said last week, we're not scared of not being part of the herd.   I'd rather not be part of the herd. You know? So  

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yeah. There we are. So there we go. Wow. Yeah. I suppose we should get on with some more of your granddad's book.  

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We can do that indeed. Chatting  

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and Let me just grab my xylophone   because  

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Have you got a minor one this week? No. Not yet. I haven't had enough time, Maleficus. I'm gonna find you a minor xylophone.   Either that or I'm just gonna come around and bend the keys on yours so they go a little bit at you.  

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So they just say something a bit different. Yeah. Okay. Right. What what chapter are we on, mister Scott?  

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So we are halfway through chapter two.  

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We haven't got very far, have we?  

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No. But then, I would prefer to go through it in a in a way that it analyzes the subject matter rather than just try and rush through it for the sake of reading the book. Let's analyze it, and let's let's pull apart the bits that are in it in order for, others to understand where why the book was written. And don't forget, it was written eighty years ago. So there's gonna be subject matter in there that people are gonna go, what?   What's all that about? That's all in relegated to history. You know, that old dusty thing that nobody wants to look at.  

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Okay. Right.   State is yours.  

[01:34:35] Unknown:

Yeah. Oh, thank you. Thank you.   Great work.   Okay. So if you remember last week, at the end of last week's show, we got to the section where he was listing through various little sections of the   of the protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion, quote, unquote, the plan as it was known back then.   And he was he was,   listing various things that could or would relate to the political situations   of the day. And I would hasten to add that a lot of them still ring true today   in that respect.   So quick disclaimer. If anyone's dissatisfied   with anything that I say over the next half hour,   Unless I tell you that it's my own caveat,   it's written in the book.  

So,   we are simply just going through the book. If anyone wants to make any correlations to it that they're not happy with, by all means, just send me an email, and, we can discuss it. How about that?   Go on. Big boy boots on.   So let's let's talk it through.   Okay. So,   we got to, the people have raised a howl about the necessity of settling the question of socialism   by way of international   agreement.   Division into parties has given them into our hands. For in order to carry on a contested struggle,   one must have money, and all the money is our in our hands. Now I'd be I drew the analogy last week that people say, oh, I don't like Keir Starmer very much, or I don't like,   I don't know, Rishi Sunak very much, or, you know, or whatever. This is the whole division into the two parties, but it's the same wallet   paying for the two parties.  

And   you have   in behind these two elements, this division of parties, you have the same civil   servants   working in the background that are the machinery of government,   not the mouthpieces upfront.   So the civil rather like I I made the analogy last week that during the Bolshevik revolution, there was a phrase, police know   that governments change, but the police remain.   Well, governments know   that governments change, but or should I say civil servants know that governments change, but the civil servants   remain.   So all the machinery   behind these mouthpieces   never actually changes.  

It's only the mouthpieces   that do.   Alright?   So,   in this way, the blind force of the   people   remains our support. And we, and only we, shall provide them with a leader   and of course direct them along the road that leads to our goal.   Protocol nine.   What do we care if the ranks for those striving for power should be thinned?   If there should arise a deadlock, a deadlock which will finally disorganize   the country,   protocol 10.   The daily need for bread forces the goyim to keep the   daily need for bread forces the Goyim to keep silence and be our humble servant. Remember the word Goyim refers to non Jew or cattle. So the daily need for bread forces the Goyim to keep silence   and be our humble   servants.  

Now I think it was a Rothschild   family member back in the day. It was either that or Rockefeller over in America said,   give me the power to control a country's money,   and I care not who makes its laws. So   yeah. Because that that basic   all the politicians have to be paid. You know? So give me the power to control a country's money, and I don't care who makes the laws.   You know?   Our orators   sorry. That was, the humble servant's one. That was protocol 13.   So   our orators will expound great problems,   which have turned humanity upside down in order to bring it,   at the end, under our beneficial   rule.  

So what are these great problems that are, you know, that are being expounded? Well, things like   climate change, unquote unquote.   Wars in various different places.   Inequalities.   I don't know. Gender or social differences.   All these great problems   essentially   keep all the cattle, if you like, running around in circles. Because there's too many problems for everyone to deal with. Right? You know, you might have a few answers for one, but you you you're not gonna have answers for all of them.   So it becomes   a massive confusion. So that comes out of protocol 15.  

Even these few precepts taken at random from the plan itself as a guide, it becomes comparatively easy to understand much that was puzzling before.   Now can be seen the nature of the satanic stratagem for world domination going on in our midst.   Constituting   mental manipulation   operating through church and state,   entirely unsuspected   and therefore unbelievable.   In light of this revelation can now be better understood the seemingly disconnected sequence of events and circumstances   connected with   the two world wars. Yes, both of them.   The League of Nations.  

League of Nations. Well, that's   a centralization   that's a centralizing   governing body   of delegates that get together and decide out of those nations that are signed up into the League of Nations   how they should all proceed   in unity.   So the League of Nations,   Dumbarton Oaks,   Bretton Woods and the San Francisco Conference. Okay. I'm just going to elaborate on those three things because it's important that we do.   What he's pointing toward, what he's using these as examples of   machinations of the plan, the protocols. Okay. So Dunbarton Oaks.   The Dunbarton Oaks Conference, or more formally the Washington   Conversations   of International Peace and Security   Organization,   was an international   conference   which   At which proposals for the establishment of a general   international   organization,   which was to become eventually the United Nations,   were formulated and negotiated.  

The conference was led by four policemen,   the United States,   The United Kingdom, The Soviet Union and China.   So all these people who,   you know,   nowadays are considered   the bogeymen   to each other. So, you know, you've got the The UK, United States, and then you've got Soviet Union and China, which is kind of sat kind of delicately in the middle because it's got all the commerce, and everyone's giving it its commerce. So you see where this is going.   It was held at Dunbarton Oaks Estate in Washington, DC on the 08/21/1944.   So before the Second World War ended, they were already talking about creating an international organization,   which was   for the establishment   of essentially peace and security   organization.  

You know? So between nations. Between those four nations in particular.   So that's one example of a centralization,   that was bought about as far as Grandad is concerned under the protocols.   Okay. So the next one he spoke about was Bretton Woods. What was Bretton Woods?   So the Bretton Woods system of monetary management established the rules for commercial relations among 44 countries.   Right?   Including The United States, Canada, Western European countries, and Australia.   After the nineteen forty four Brettons Wood agreement By the way, I'm reading this straight from Wikipedia. I ain't making it up.   They might have, but I don't think so. It's fairly bang on.  

After the nineteen forty four Bretton Woods Agreement, the Bretton Woods system was the first example of a fully negotiated   monetary order intended to govern monetary relations   among independent   states.   So you've got basically   people demanding a certain fiscal policy, like a monetary policy,   amongst these signee states.   So that would say that all those   banks,   if you like,   and, like,   monetary organizations   are gonna be working in unison.   And the San Francisco Conference.   This is the final one I'm going to read out because the rest of it will be fairly self explanatory.   So the San Francisco Conference,   where delegates   of 50 nations met in San Francisco, California, USA, between the twenty fifth and the April 26, June,  

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at  

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At the,   United Nations   hang on. Where are we?   And it was for hang on. I I I had this page all lined up. So, yeah, the conference of the United Nations was called to meet in San Francisco, April Twenty Fifth Nineteen Forty Five for the sole purpose   of drafting a charter of a world   security   organization.   You know?   So so when granddad says   so so when granddad says, in light of the revelation, it can now be better understood. The seemingly disconnected   sequence of events and circumstances   connected with the two world wars, the League of Nations, Dunbarton Oaks, Bretton Woods, and the San Francisco Conference.   He goes on to say, the New Deal, recent legislation in Britain   aiming at the this is back in the fifties.  

Recent legislation in Britain aiming at the gradual elimination of individual initiative   and   responsibility,   nationalization   of industry   accompanied by debt,   the deprival of the right of the individual to contract out and forced to submit to compulsion,   and the division of Germany.   So after the war, Germany got divided up between the Soviet Union and the allies, quote, unquote, even though they were all allies partway through the war,   not at the beginning   and not at the end, apparently, just when it suits them.   Okay?  

So and the yeah. The the divisions of Germany after the war,   containing the explosive   ingredients   of a third world war. Potentially,   as far as Granddad was concerned. He died in 'fifty seven, which is   literally twelve years after the war finished. So and the book was written in 'fifty four. So,   for an even clearer understanding of the real cause of the manifold troubles that beset us today,   driving us ruthlessly into the abyss of destruction and despair,   ponder these revealing   notes   which are   culled from the forward of the plan itself.   A plan which was first formulated   as far back as the ninth century   before Christ,   By Solomon and other Jewish leaders as a scheme for the conquest of the then known world   by means other than the expensive and dangerous ones of open war.  

So extracts from the notes. So I. E. The foreword to the protocols.   These learned men with the slyness of the symbolic snake,   whose head was to represent those who've been initiated   in the plans of the Jewish administration and the body of the snake to represent the Jewish people.   As the snake penetrated into the hearts of nations,   not forgetting what was written in the protocols earlier on about,   you   know,   getting   their hands into the governments of all nations.   So   as the state penetrated into the hearts of nations,   it undermined and devoured   all the non Jewish power of these states.  

It is foretold   that the snake has still to finish its work.   Until the return of its head to Zion.   Until the snake has completed its round of Europe and encompassed the whole world.   Thus it aims to accomplish the objective   by using every endeavor to subdue other countries by economical   conquest.   So   I've said it so many times before, but if every   person   in every single country   and all those respective countries are all in debt.   Somebody name me a country that isn't in debt. And if anyone says Russia, I'm just gonna get really irritated with them. But anyway, you can say that if you like. It's up to you.   If all those countries are in debt,   who are they in debt to?  

Is there one country in the world at the moment that's counting its invoices going, we're owed a a shit ton of cash here.   No, there isn't. Every country is in debt. So economical conquest.   A map of the course of the snake is shown as follows.   First stage.   In April,   in Greece, where in the time of Pericles,   the snake started eating to the power of that country. The second stage, about sixty nine BC in Rome in the time of Augustus.   The third stage,   fifteen fifty two   AD, so that's after Christ, anno domini,   in Madrid,   I. E. The inquisition.  

And then the fourth stage, from about 1790   in Paris,   the French Revolution,   folks.   Fifth stage, London, Eighteen Fourteen onwards. What happened in 1814?   The beginnings of the Napoleonic wars.   Yes.   And who funded both sides of the Napoleonic wars? So I'll leave that for the audience to go and research for themselves. I'm not gonna bother spelling out to you.   So in London from 1814 onwards,   you know, by the way, that   there was one banker in England who, at the end of   the Napoleonic Wars,   found out who'd won and spread it around the whole of,   the London establishment that,   that Napoleon had won instead of Wellington.  

And, of course, everyone panicked because   nothing was worth anything because we were a beaten country. So everyone started up selling all their assets   at pence on the pound,   and it was all bought up by one banking family.   Yeah. Anyway,   sixth stage in Berlin in Berlin   from 1871   onwards. That's the Prussian menace   in brackets he's got written there.   Seventh stage in Saint Petersburg, over which is drawn the head of the snake under the date 1881.   And   the eighth stage,   nineteen o five in Russia onwards.   So   I. E. Nineteen o five was the first Russian revolution.   The   last Russian revolution   was 1917   when the Bolsheviks it's known as the Bolshevik Revolution or the Red Revolution.  

Granddad asserts that that was the same group of people working towards that.   All these states which the snake has traversed   have had the foundations of their constitutions   shaken.   Arrows indicate that the head of the snake,   moving on to Moscow, Kiev, and Odessa.   And it's well known, my granddad puts in brackets here, it's well known to what extent the   latter cities   are centers of militant Jewry, or as he would put it, Zionism.   So   the ninth stage, this is an interesting one. Because obviously, this picture was drawn   and put in the preface of the protocols.  

The ninth stage,   Constantinople,   which is now Istanbul,   Turkey,   to Jerusalem. So that was the last stage after it had done its circuit. It's going back to Palestine, Jerusalem.   Now the ninth stage   didn't occur   until so the when was the Turkish revolution? I've got it here somewhere.   Turkish revolution occurred   nineteenth of May,   1919   to the 07/24/1923.   When were the protocols   found   and published?   Nineteen o four.   Right?   So you get where I'm going with that. It was already   preconceived.  

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Yeah. Okay.  

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So this map, as granddad points out, this map was drawn years before the occurrence of the Young Turk,   I. E. Jewish revolution in Turkey.   Nihilus of Russia in his epilogue,   in the 1905   edition of the plan.   Okay.   Note that when the head of the snake reaches its tail in Palestine, the conquest of Europe by Judaic communism will be approaching its objective.   Then consider what happened in Palestine   in 1948   after   the war. And I heard, your guest earlier, and you touching on Lawrence of Arabia   and   the Balfour declaration, all that kind of thing as well.   But the   consider what happened in Palestine.  

So you've heard of Lawrence of Arabia. Lawrence of Arabia   essentially   gathered all the Arab states together   and guaranteed them   that if they help the British   fight the Ottoman Empire,   which also just happened to be the empire that the Turks were attempting to overthrow.   Yeah.   So this is going back to World War one. This is 1914   to to '18.   Lawrence of Arabia convinced the Arab states   in   Palestine   and surrounding areas that if they join forces, the British would help them kick out the Ottoman Empire.   And the guarantee was is that   they would literally just   help help secure borders and keep the peace.  

The French had a mandate in in one area of the Middle East. We had the mandate in in Palestine, which is now Israel.   And   so they all agreed, and they helped the British kick the Ottoman Empire out of the Middle East. Okay?   What happened after that   is that   the Brits went back on their agreement,   essentially,   and allowed the,   basically, the because they they'd,   basically, they'd   they they went back on the agreement in the respect that they weren't given sovereignty   over all those states.   The British, the French, and the allies, quote, unquote,   were maintaining   peacekeeping forces there. So they weren't given their sovereignty back at all. Lawrence of Arabia was so outraged by this that when World War II kicked off, not forgetting, he was a really, really high ranking guy,   He refused to join the join back up   to the army and instead entered the RAF,   at the lowest rank.  

Because he wanted to do something for Britain and the war effort, but he refused to go back into the military because of how the British establishment had stitched up all the Arab states. Now that lot's come from me. That's not in Granddad's book. Okay.   So when granddad says consider what happened in Palestine, I was just elaborating on that. Okay.   The plan has been described as a forgery.   Though how a plan, which is materialized in such detail, can be a forgery would challenge   considerable   ingenuity   to explain.  

As witness to the following significant incidents and events,   all of which seem to be too apt to just be coincidental.   So the release of the Jew, Bronstein, better known as Trotsky,   from arrest in Halifax in Nova Scotia went on his way to have millions of helpless Russians butchered   in 1917.   Now I think I touched on this before.   Trotsky,   was funded   by one of the Schiff brothers   in New York and sent on a boat   over to Europe or over to to Russia with all this money, can't remember how many million it was in gold at the time,   in order to help fund   and   create the revolution which turned into the Bolshevik Revolution.  

That boat was actually stopped by the Royal Navy in Halifax in Nova Scotia   and impounded. And it was a letter from somebody very high up in Britain   which told the navy to release it. Despite the fact it was carrying all that gold, told the navy to release them and and let them go, and they did. And that's what that's where that money went.   Trotsky I mean, if anyone wants to look into Trotsky and his works, I mean,   I can't think of a more fitting end   for   such a person.   I think it was Stalin had him murdered.   He was found with an ice pick through his head. But, yeah, he was you know, he got off lightly   anyway.  

So two, the suppression by the British Foreign Office of a vital message in the report on Bolshevism   of The Netherlands Minister   Urdenik,   representative of the Netherlands government at St. Petersburg   when the reign of Bolshevist terror began.   The passage reads as follows.   The danger is now so great that I feel it my duty to call to the attention, to call   the attention of the British   and all other governments to the fact that if an end is   not put to Bolshevism   at once,   the civilization of the whole world will be threatened.   This is not an exaggeration, but a sober fact. I consider that the immediate suppression of Bolshevism   is the greatest issue now before the world.  

Not even excluding the war still raging.   So, obviously, he's talking about World War one.   So let me just, elaborate.  

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Two minutes, Maleficus.  

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Have I? Oh, man. We're gonna have to start this earlier, aren't we? We   are. Well, I'll tell you what. Let's leave that because I I will read his I will repeat read his report in full. We'll start with that next week. But as I say, it's I know it seems to be taking a long time to go over this so much. Through it, and I want I want to understand it. Yeah. And I think the listeners do as well. You know? It's, it's good to go into it like that. Definitely.   Yeah. Yeah. Okay. I mean, a lot of it's, obviously, you know,   to say, it's gonna upset a lot of people because there's the Jew word in there. And I'm sure it'll upset Jewish people and other people that aren't Jewish. But I'm literally just reading it from the book, and granddad was saying it as he was seeing it.  

And as we well know today,   the money power is the problem. All wars are bankers'   wars. Who pays for them?   So it may not be anything to do with Jewish people nowadays. In granddad's day,   he he deemed it so. It may or may not be. I'm not qualified to say, but,   you know, it's it's about the banking system, essentially.  

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I think you're very right. Right, mister.   Excuse me. Hang on. Let me just play you out.   There we are. Right. Happy people. Have an awesome week, and we will be back   the same time next week. And we should start a little bit earlier so, we get a bit further. We'll stop our chitchat.   I'm not gonna play any music out because we're literally right on the end. Thank you for joining me, mister Scott folks. And listeners. Yeah. If  

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if anyone wants to catch up with me, [email protected].   Send me a message if you were happy or unhappy.  

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Do it. Right. See you next week, guys. Take care, Maleficus.  

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Cheerio.  

[02:00:33] Unknown:

And the stroop.