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The Shelley Tasker Show is a dynamic, thought-provoking program hosted by Shelley Tasker every Wednesday at 7pm uk time. Hour 2 is Co-hosted with the great Mallificus Scott.
The show offers insightful commentary, interviews, and discussions on current events, culture, and social issues. With a focus on honest dialogue and independent perspectives,  The show provides an open space for exploring diverse viewpoints and tackling important topics with authenticity and thoughtfulness. Whether you’re looking for fresh takes on trending issues or in-depth conversations, 


Welcome to another engaging episode of the Shelley Tasker Show, where we dive into the world of alternative diets and lifestyle choices. This week, I had the pleasure of speaking with Laura Nina, a truther, vlogger, and activist, about her journey with the carnivore-keto diet. Laura shared her personal experiences with yo-yo dieting and how she discovered the benefits of a meat-based diet. We discussed the challenges she faced, including the infamous "keto flu," and how she overcame them to find a healthier lifestyle.

Laura also touched on her upbringing in Sicily, where she grew up on a small farm and learned the value of animal products in her diet. She shared insights into the misconceptions about meat and the importance of animal fats, especially for women. We explored the societal push towards plant-based diets and the potential health implications of such choices.

In the second hour, Co-Host Mallificus Scott joins Shelley.  A lively discussion on various topics, including the recent tornado in Quintal Downs and its impact on local families. We also delved into the world of music, discussing the influence of the media on artists like Robbie Williams and the pressures of the music industry.

Mallificus shared a fascinating story about a dream that predicted a murder, highlighting the mysterious connection between dreams and reality. We wrapped up with a discussion on the current state of Cornwall's attractions and the challenges they face in today's economic climate.

Join us for an insightful and thought-provoking episode as we explore these diverse topics and more.

[00:01:14] Unknown:

Good evening, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the Shelley Tasker Show coming live out of radiosoapbox.com.   Whoop. Playing the wrong song. Sorry about that. Today's date, Wednesday,   29th January.   Last Wednesday in January,   2025. Happy hump day, everybody.   So I'm also streaming live on Rumble.   And, you know, if you wanna leave any comments joining the chat, please do so.   I've got an awesome guest this evening. I've got the wonderful Laura Nina,   who's a truther, vlogger, activist,   researcher. The list goes on, to be honest with you. But tonight, we're gonna focus on the whole carnivoreketo   diet. So good evening, Laura. Welcome to the show.  



[00:01:57] Unknown:

Hi. Good evening. Thank you. Thank you for the lovely introduction. Some people might say I'm more of a pain than a tracer.  

[00:02:03] Unknown:

I don't know. You dig deep, don't you? You go down lots of rabbit holes, which I love and, you know, I see quite a bit of your stuff. I ain't got time to watch it all, but,   some really interesting   topics.   So,  

[00:02:17] Unknown:

I just love learning. I love looking at all different things. And rabbit holes could be very dangerous because there's a lot of,   rabbit holes which have been put there obviously to distract us from the truth. So that's one thing,   that we always have to bear in mind whenever we start looking at things.  

[00:02:34] Unknown:

Yes. Definitely. And,   yeah, I've you've been doing stuff for Magna Carta, the whole electricity thing. You're gonna have to come back on again because this whole electricity thing, I really want to delve into. And you seem Yeah. Of course. You seem to have cracked it.  

[00:02:49] Unknown:

I've had no bill for 3 months at the moment, but, yeah, I'm just gonna see how that goes. And, like, if, you know, for for people that are not aware, I actually had my own meters installed   legally and lawfully with their permission,   which means they had the the utility provider had to come and remove their meters so that I could install mine.   So, yeah, updates coming.  

[00:03:13] Unknown:

Yeah. We'll watch out. When you've done it for a year and you've had no backlash, it's like you could be onto something there.   Brilliant stuff. Anyway, tonight, we're gonna chat about the whole ketocarnival   diet. Can you just tell us a bit how did you get into this?  

[00:03:29] Unknown:

Well, I've been yo yo dieting like probably everybody in this,   world, for as long as I can remember because   we are   stuck, obviously.   It's it's hard to get around without seeing food everywhere you go. Tell me about it. Isn't it? Yeah. And,   and so we've because our   natural food has been sort of   processed and sweetened and everything, we've now   we're unable to eat what we should be eating because we're craving things   that our body doesn't need because of all the processed foods and junk foods and sugars that we've put in our body. So we've ruined our microbiome.   We've ruined,   you know, our hormones. We've ruined everything.  

And it's all done by design because all these foods are there to,   become profitable,   for some company or other, you know, be it big pharma, medical industry, the doctors. So   you're up at you're literally swimming against the tide,   from the day you're you're born, really,   because you will always have to face   the wrong food in your life, and you'll always be battling with weight and health and what to eat, how to eat. You don't know what what, you know, they they they change the story so many times. So, yeah, like everybody,   I've been yo yo dieting my whole life. But fitness,   and health has always been   an obsession of mine.  

And so I've always been into healthy eating or so. I thought that's what I was doing,   and fitness.   So but   I came from a farm in Sicily. I grew up in well, a very small farm in the mountains where,   you know, you you didn't always have electric or I don't I don't even there was never there we didn't have gas there.   The closest we got to gas was wood fires. You know? And,   and sometimes you didn't have any water. It really depended on the day.  

[00:05:36] Unknown:

Right.   Simply living.  

[00:05:38] Unknown:

It was very simple. But,   I still had some health issues,   which I realize now why that was,   as the Italians   eat a lot of pasta.   And so that's where a lot of,   carbs and gluten,   wheat all comes into it, even   though over there, it's not going to be as bad as here. But that's only because there's less toxins   Mhmm. That you're putting into your body than what you are here.   So but my   staple diet was mainly,   farm food, like eggs and cheese and milk   and meat very rarely because we we weren't, you know, well off. So   everybody they knew that the only people that had money,   were the ones that could afford afford to keep animals   for food. So the more animals you had, the wealthy you the wealthier you were.  

And everybody   knew that   meat was extremely important,   and anything that came from an animal was extremely important.   You know, they didn't argue about veg. Veg was something you had to to grow because you needed food to sustain,   but whenever you could get hold of something from an animal,   that was classed as luxury, that was classed as health.   And I'm not gonna obviously go into it, too deeply because we could be here all night.   But then when I came to England,   I, again got stuck in in a a really bad way of eating because all of a sudden at 10 years old,   I'm faced with so many new foods   that I did I I it was   overwhelming.  

So much sugar,   cereals, Weetabix.   I became obsessed with Weetabix. I was like, what is this?   Walking into supermarkets and seeing how much   stuff is there. And so I I developed a bit of an eating,   I would say, a bit of an overeating disorder because I've never seen all these things before. And I think in my mind, I thought I might never see them again, so I need to eat as much as I can now.   And now I've always battled with food.   And so from when I came to England, I think I was 10 years old,   I overindulged   in all these new flavors, and most of them are sugar lined, processed,   unnecessary   for our body. But they   they are a drug,   and they make you become addicted. And so you want more.  

So throughout my life,   I obviously gained weight, felt like, you know, didn't feel too good, felt tired, suffered with,   suffered with really bad acne at the age of 24.   There was lots of things that I suffered with as a, you know,   a growing   child and a, you know, a woman.   And then,   I followed all those diets, you know, like they tell you, if you need to lose weight, go on the Weight Watchers and Slimming World.   And I'd heard of keto,   but I thought keto was just another way of losing weight.   What I didn't know was the science behind it.   And when I say science, I don't mean   big pharma science. I I don't mean, you know, the the brown envelope science. I mean the actual science behind it.  

And so last year,   I well, no. Actually, 2 years ago,   I   had a health coach who ex she was a lovely, lovely lady who explained to me   exactly what Keta was about.   And it's all to do with the fact that our body does not need sugar and that sugar will come in many different forms   but mainly   in carbs,   in fruits   and in high carb vegetables.   And that's why we need to limit   the amount   of high carbs we eat because that turns into sugar.   And when you have too much sugar in your body,   your insulin will rise. And when your insulin rises,   that's when you end up with all sorts of problems in your body   and it begins to attack its itself.  

And she was amazing,   and she got me on this journey on the keto ball. So I began to understand   why   gluten,   you know, pasta, grains and wheat was no good for you. It wasn't just about the sugar, but it's also what it does to   your stomach,   what it does to your brain.   I think there's a book called The Grain Brain, if anyone wants to look at it, and how   grain affects   your your your brain and not in a good way.   I learnt about what gluten, and it's in the name, it's glue,   does to your body.   It literally is glue in your stomach, in your intestine.   And so   I thought, right, let's give this a proper go.  



[00:10:54] Unknown:

And, I'm still am I talking too much? No. I'm not interrupting. I just want you to take the stage and explain. Yeah. So sorry.  

[00:11:01] Unknown:

That's okay. No. No. It's fine. Just jump in if you've got anything else. I will. Don't worry. Awesome.   So that's when I sort of I gave it a go.   And what I noticed was that   on dev on day it was so hard. Oh my god. I it was because I'm at listen. Anyone that knows me knows how much I love my cakes.   I love   a coffee shop with a nice cake and a hot chocolate or a cup of tea. Love it. I have got a sugar craving. Not gonna deny that. I love chocolate   and I love carbs.   And I also loved fruit and veg.   Now,   I thought let me give this a go.   And on day 7, it was very hard work. On day 7, 8, 9, I was really ill.  

And day 7 and 8 was really bad headaches. And some people call this the keto flu.   Mhmm. I felt really tired. I was so foggy brained. I really couldn't think. I was like,   you know, you know, when you've just really gotta think about things. Yes. I was you I'm like that all the time.  

[00:12:08] Unknown:

I and I'm presuming that's the lack of sugar, is it? Your body detoxing from the sugar.  

[00:12:13] Unknown:

Yeah. It's your body detoxing, but also it's your body transitioning,   so that it's transitioning fuel, if you like. So you're   going through the detox and you're going through a change where you're forcing your body to switch fuel source.   So rather than working from   carbs that turn into sugar that   they use that as,   fuel,   so you are now switching over and using fat as a fuel source.   So your body's going through a massive change. But on day 9, I was bedbound. I could not walk. As soon as I got up, my whole body was inflamed. All my joints were so inflamed.  

[00:12:54] Unknown:

And is this is this something that regularly happens to people that go on to this diet?  

[00:12:59] Unknown:

I think it it it really depends,   on what your diet is like. Again, mine was quite carby and sugary   and,   really bad. So I think it depends   how   toxic you are. Right. Clearly.   Clearly, I was very toxic.   So the most important thing when you're   switching or going through the process is that you have,   magnesium   and possibly vitamin c. You take your supplements, but magnesium is key,   because you need to help your body even more so during the process and you need to keep your cortisol level down and also you need to   stimulate your bowel movement. So because you're switching over, you might end up with some sort of bowel movement problems until your body regulates again.  

So on day 9, I was so ill and she explained to me it was my body detoxing and what happens is that   we have so much,   our body is very clever and it wants to,   what you eat and all the chemicals and all the toxins, it wants to keep them away from your   internal organs, so it dumps them in different places. So that's why women end up with big hips or, you know, you end up putting weight   on your legs or whatever, but it's because it tries to keep them away from your heart, your kidneys, you know, all the internal organs.   But the other place it puts them is on your bones.  

So my back was in agony and so we've got a big backbone,   and so a lot of toxins get dumped on the bones and she explained   all this to me. And that's why when elderly people end   up having a fall when they break a bone, they end up getting ill afterwards   because they've released the toxins that are attached to the bones.   So I really did struggle,   and for me switching over   and starting to feel human again   took about 4 to 5 weeks.   Wow. So yeah, it was really hard work.   It honestly was not easy.   There was, and on day 9, because I felt so bad, I   ended up having a small bowl of porridge. I gave in,   and a bit of honey and for me,   that was good because I could have literally devoured a whole pizza.  

And I just, I felt like an, a zombie, you know, looking for, I was just so hungry.   So I thought, well, if I'm going to be bad, I'm just going to do this. Excuse me.   And as soon as I had that bowl of porridge, I, you know, I just felt a sense of relief.   That feeling when you feel so comforted   and I just went, 'Ah, this is amazing.' Or suddenly   my body was   feeling so calm and everything, and that that that was the sugar craving. What I needed was the carbs.   That's how serious it can get for some people.   But then the next day I was back on it and I was like, no, you know, I've done well to get to day 9. I'm going to carry on.' So I didn't break it. I didn't go, oh, stuff it. I can't do this.' No. I just thought,   'On the grand scale of things, a little small bowl of porridge is not going to kill me.' So I carried on.  

And after 6 weeks, I felt amazing.   The problem is, it's a very hard lifestyle   at first to get to grips with.   It's a very hard lifestyle   for to have in everyday life,   because   there is so much you can't eat.   You can, you can eat it, but it will impact your health.   So, because it was,   not this Christmas just gone, the Christmas before,   I ended up obviously with the Christmas eating and being invited to friends houses, it's very hard to follow so I fell off the wagon.   But again, in sort of February time the following year, I jumped back on. I was like, no. I'm gonna do this again. And I found that the second time around, I wasn't as bad.   And then for another I think I'd done that for about 2 months,   and then fell off the wagon again for many different reasons. And this is how I've been spending my whole life.  

But it's okay, you know, because we're still trying, we're still getting there, and   we're not going to get things straight away. So don't, if anyone's doing this, don't beat yourself up just because   you don't get it right the first time. You've got to want to do it, and that is it.   And then   I thought, right, okay,   go back to healthy eating.   And I started researching some more and I came across the carnivore   and I thought, what is this?   And so a carnivore is literally only eating   meat   or anything that comes from an animal.   So butter, cream, eggs, cheese,   you know, full fat yoghurt,   and anything to do with like, you know, beef, bacon,   that sort of thing, anything, fish.  

And I then started to   follow   certain doctors like doctor Ken Berry,   doctor Chaffee, Anthony Chaffee.   I can't remember some of the ladies' names. Let me see if I've written any of them down. We've got   Kent Carnivore,   Doctor Zoe Harcombe. She's brilliant. If anybody wants to have a look for her, she explains things so well.   And the more I started listening to all these doctors you've got Doctor Eric Berg as well. He's really good   steak and buttered girl.   Carnivore Squad, they're another great channel on YouTube for people if they want to follow this. The more I started listening to this, the more it   it kind of   reminded me of when I was a child   and the importance of meat then and   how now   there is a huge push   to stop you eating meat or to make you think that meat is bad for you.  



[00:19:09] Unknown:

Yep. Only lab grown meat all the way.   Tasty.  

[00:19:14] Unknown:

I mean, what is that? I don't even what what is in that?  

[00:19:18] Unknown:

What how's Nothing good. Meat in a lab? Yeah. Yeah.  

[00:19:22] Unknown:

I just can't get my head around that.   And so I started thinking back to when I was a child and thinking, actually,   you know, my   grandparents and parents and everybody, the whole everybody around you knew   that   meat was what made you strong.   That animal products was what made you strong. Everything else was just there for to sustain you, to to to help you survive, but it didn't make you strong.   But meat and animal products was they all knew this.   I used to have   my nan used to give me a raw egg every day, the the yolk   from the egg. Every day, I hated it. And she used to say, no. This is very good. And we had chicken, so it was all fresh eggs. Now they tell you   that's the worst thing you can have because of,   salmonella,   which is absolute   another thing, you know, which most   most,   diseases or illnesses or outbreaks   are generally because the animals have been treated bad or they've been contaminated with something.  

But, you know, if you look after the animals and you feed them well, then it's perfectly fine to eat a raw egg. And I used to have one every day. I grew up on goat's milk, freshly squeezed goat's milk. Well, that's what I'm drinking now. My head's got around the switch because I'm intolerant to dairy,  

[00:20:49] Unknown:

and   I for a couple of days, it just turned my stomach. Every time I had a drink, I was like, oh, no.   But it's now my head is around it. It just tastes like normal milk. Yes. I don't know if I would drink it by itself, but I can manage, you know, a tea and coffee. Thank goodness.   But the whole goat's milk and its goodness, I I can't believe it. We've, like wow. We've always been led to kind of believe that we don't drink from goats and stuff, do we? But it's becoming more and more evident because so many people have got intolerances   and the goodness from it. I saw something the other day about,   how back in the 1800,   they would use goats as, wet nurses.  



[00:21:28] Unknown:

Oh, interesting.  

[00:21:30] Unknown:

Yeah. Yes. Yeah.  

[00:21:31] Unknown:

Doesn't surprise me. Yeah.  

[00:21:33] Unknown:

Goat's milk is amazing. And,   I I mean, I haven't studied the difference, but   the goat's milk is we had   2 goats.   We had 1, but my nan kept another one for me.   So we had 2 of them. And that's what we had, freshly squeezed. And I I never once said,   I loved it. It was it was amazing.   And I've got   very, very strong bones. And my mom always just say to me, it's because of the goat's milk. And the accidents that I've had   and I can tell you firsthand the accidents that I've had in my life. I should have had so many broken bones.   To the point that nowadays I actually see,   you know, kids or people falling over and breaking   bones so easily, and I think, Christ, I'd done that.  

And and I was fine. So I don't think I was lucky because I was a real tomboy, and I I was always always falling off and doing something, but I'd never had a broken bone. And she's always said it's because of the goat's milk. And I actually do believe that. Yeah. That doesn't surprise me. Yeah.   I found out as well because   I don't drink much milk now. But like you, I have raw   cow's milk.   But I can't and if I have it, maybe I might have a, you   know,   half a glass. But I I'm not a massive lover, but I do like to make things like natural yogurt with it. But my kids drink it.   And,   where was I going? Right. So with the I was told   that   shop bought milk lacks the enzyme   that actually helps you absorb the calcium from the milk.  

But raw milk,   that's where you actually absorb   the benefits, including the calcium,   into your body. There's there's, like, an enzyme that's that's been killed.   And this is what they do with everything. When you buy   processed anything   it's been processed   through a process   of taking away anything that's good in the food and then they fortify   and that word you can probably find on you know you find it on all the cereals and milks and breads   and biscuits and the the word fortified   makes it sound like   it's amazing it's been given strength.   And added vitamins. But it's not natural because they've already killed all the goodness in it.  



[00:24:06] Unknown:

So what it's crazy, isn't it? So what they're taking away, then then they're trying to replace it.  

[00:24:11] Unknown:

Yeah. With with artificial synthetic   versions.   What's already in the goodness   has been taken away   and replaced with synthetic stuff, which is exactly what they want to do to us.   So   in in my sort of looking into the the health   and I came across the carnival diet,   the chap called Kent Carnival on YouTube,   he's   been very ill most of his life. His story's quite amazing, and he's got,   is it a colostomy bag?   And   there was a myth   around meat that if you eat meat, it gets stuck in your colon.   And most people don't realise that it's a myth. They believe it. And so it gets stuck in your colon,   and   then you end up, you know, turning you get cancer from it.  

And this is what they tell people that meat causes cancer, it's carcinogenic,   and so on and so forth. Well, if you follow Kent Carnival,   he has single   handedly   literally wiped that myth out.   Because of his colostomy bag,   he can see what goes through his stomach and what comes out.   And what he noticed   was that when he was eating veg and, you know, the the standardised   SAD diet, which is the   American   or the standard diet,   which is called SAD, funny enough.   When he was following that, which is high grains, vegetables,   fruit and very little   meat products,   his bag was getting full up.  

But when he ate meat,   there was virtually nothing coming out into the bag.   So that means it wasn't going into the colon. It wasn't going down   into your long intestines.  

[00:26:10] Unknown:

It was being absorbed.  

[00:26:12] Unknown:

Yes. It was being completely absorbed.   And so   he decided   to   do a test and, rather than chew the meat, he swallowed chunks   and nothing came out.   And so that goes back to   the fact that   our acid   in our stomach   when it works well,   it actually breaks   animal products down   so that they become   bio,   degradable   in your body. So your body actually absorbs everything.   Therefore,   nothing actually gets stuck,   you you know, in your   intestines.   It doesn't ferment.   It doesn't become cancerous because your body's absorbed it all.  

[00:27:04] Unknown:

And his story is absolutely amazing if people want to follow it. Yeah. He he sounds fascinating. Imagine having a colostomy bag and like, right. Yep. I'll try these experiments  

[00:27:15] Unknown:

out. And since doing the carnival, he's now strict to carnival.   He's realized that most of his illnesses came from eating the standard western diet.   Eating the grains, eating the the   the the you know what they tell you to eat. The brown rice, the brown flours and breads and and fruits and veg and all that. And   limiting animal products.   Limiting fat.   And he now feels so much better and he realized that most of his problems came from eating too much fibre.  

[00:27:46] Unknown:

Right.  

[00:27:47] Unknown:

Which then brought   him on obviously to question more and look into it more. And now what you've got is a lot of people coming out with the   new it's not even new research. It is old research, but   debunking the myths.   And by the way, I'm not here to tell people   to you know, if you're a vegetarian or a vegan or a fruitarian or whatever you are,   I don't care.   Do what makes you feel good. Do what makes you feel healthy.   What I'm here to   say is that whatever you've been told about me eating meat is a lie.   What all this   push to say that meat is bad for you, that our body can't digest it,   that,   that we're not meant to eat it, that our our intestines are not made for meat is absolute   rubbish.  

Like,   literally,   it's it's propaganda   being pushed by the elites to make you weak.   That's exactly what it is. They do not want you eating meat or animal products   because they want you weak.   And,   and I know this. I've seen this on people that don't eat meat. They are much weaker.   Even though people say, oh, no. I've been I've been vegan for all my life. Listen.   You cannot   get everything   your body needs   from,   just you you you have to to to sustain yourself. You have to have a hugely varied   diet.   But yet you can get everything your body needs from a piece of steak.   Liver has got everything your body needs.  

So if you think about the fact that when you're a vegetarian or you're a vegan, and and this is even Google will tell you this, that the same people that are pushing you to go vegan and vegetarian,   they will even tell you the truth.   You will lack vitamins and minerals, and you have to make sure that you get all of them   from a variety of different sources   because they are not   absorbable in your body.   And the other thing we don't need is fibre.   So there's a there's been a push   telling you, you need to eat fibre.   You've got irritable bowel. How many of us have suffered with our stomachs? Bloated stomachs,   constipation,   and, you know, all sorts.  

And and you go to the doctors. I know I've suffered with this most of my life.   And they say you've got irritable bowel. Yeah. What what is that? Oh, eat more fibre.   Eat more fibre. Okay. How much fibre do I need to eat before this actually goes? Because I've done that. Oh, yeah. I have prunes.   You know, eat more spinach. Eat more   fruit. And it does nothing.   Nothing.   You would have to eat loads of it to to get it, you know, your stomach going.  

[00:30:43] Unknown:

Sorry? Yeah. No. I was just gonna say, you know, the whole goodness thing. I was told before that you would have to eat, like,   5 normal apples   compared to 1 organic apple to get, like, the same benefit.  

[00:30:56] Unknown:

Well, the thing with apples as well and and a lot of, actually, a lot of fruit and veg is that they are no longer   they've been so,   hybridized.   They've all,   you know,   I mean, you get seedless stuff now, isn't it? It's all GMOs.   They're no longer natural and they've been sweetened   that they can cause more harm for you than actually good because an an apple,   you wouldn't wanna eat more than 1. The original apple is so bitter.   That you you just wouldn't want to eat more than 1.   But that is where if you're talking about health,   their health is in that bitter apple.  

You know, vitamin C is bitter.   But now, they've created sweetened versions of everything.   And so all your, most of your fruit and veg is   been created   and hybridised in such a way that it's sweeter including brussels,   nuts,   almond nuts. The original nut is toxic   and but they've created   hybrid versions   which are sweeter, but they're still not that great for you.  

[00:32:12] Unknown:

No. And I presume that's to keep the continuous roll around as well, isn't it? It's like we're eating food that's not really   in season   because it's being imported.   And what somebody said a while ago that I spoke to, and it's fascinating actually, that because, like, say the the apples, it's apple season in Spain,   even though they would be sent over to the UK,   us eating them wouldn't do us any good compared to the person in Spain because of our makeup,   the air we breathe, and stuff like that. It wouldn't suit our body temperature and things.  

[00:32:44] Unknown:

Well, there is that. There is absolutely that. So for instance,   when I was in Sicily seeing my family and we went swimming   and,   we spent the whole day on a beach and it was like, you know, really hot and everything and you're you're in the water all day. It's amazing, amazing.   When we got home, my cousin opened a watermelon   and,   he cut the melon and he actually put a squeeze of lemon. He said, I've never had this before. It was amazing.   A squeeze of lemon on this watermelon and he said, eat this. You need to heat this because you need to rehydrate   because of the sun.  

So, you and so this is what they do.   So,   fruit probably does have its place   in the country   that the fruit grows. Yes.   For the season   that your body needs it. But we are in England. We don't have any sun.  

[00:33:39] Unknown:

You're not wrong there.  

[00:33:41] Unknown:

And and we're not going to get the same,   you know,   there are people that all over the world, they live in tropical countries, and they have   tropical fruit there, but they they have extreme heat.   So,   you know, when you   eat the fruit, what you're actually eating is the juice.   When fruit is ripe and beautiful, it's very juicy,   and that would probably be good for them in that country because of the heat, and they need that hydration.   But here,   the other thing here is we don't have the sun. So,   in Italy,   everything tastes different. When I came to England and I tasted an orange,   I spat it out and I said to my mum, what is this?  

She says, an orange? I was like, this isn't an orange. Tastes like crap. Yeah.   Because it lacks   the and I still struggle now.   Tomatoes, they don't taste. It doesn't even matter   if you've grown them yourself   and in your allotment in the most wonderful soil.   It does not matter   if they are homegrown. You do not, we do not have the sun. We don't have the same sun   and so it doesn't have the same taste. It doesn't have the same goodness.   And so when you then pick   something in another country   and ship it over,   they normally you know, by the time they get here, it's, you know,   2, 3, 4 days later, maybe a week, depending. I mean, most of the stuff you see in the supermarket   is probably last year's stock anyway. Yeah.  



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Yeah. Nothing's fresh.  

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Exactly. So it's losing the goodness anyway.   Because if you're talking health,   then you kind   of need to eat it within, you know, a few days of picking it,   especially fruit, especially things that can go off and they can't be frozen.   Yeah.  

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So Yeah. And I suppose, like, picking an apple off the tree, it's got all of the energy from the tree. And as soon as you've picked it off the branch, it's not gonna get any good any more goodness, is No.  

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And they they they pick fruit too soon,   and it gets shipped over and it gets ripened on the journey or however long before they put it out. But it's not real fruit. It's just not the same.   So,   but, yes, so in England, we you know, if if you're lucky enough to live in a hot country,   then there could be reasons why you can eat that.   But   the idea behind it is that   if you if you live in a cold country,   you can't grow stuff. So you need to sustain yourself with   animal products. But even in Italy, we had animal products, and we we because we had very cold seasons.   I I mean, where I lived, we had snow. Really bad. Really. You could, there was 3 weeks we were caged in 1 1 year.  

So we couldn't get out for 3 weeks. I'll never forget that. I was 9 years old.   And,   because I lived in the mountains.   And so we used to prepare for the winter.   And we used to my,   my family would   prepare all the cheeses,   the breads, obviously we used to have the bread and whatever, but   also,   meat products.   Like, for instance, the skin of the pig,   they used to boil it and congeal it and and it used you then cut a slice off and it's like jelly.   But that   is very healthy for you.   What you call beef,   what's it called?   Crackling. Was it,   you know, not beef, pork crackling. Mhmm.  

Yeah. So   but there because we had they had to prepare it in such a way that it would last longer,   that's why it was boiled in its own   oil and then it it it   congeals.   But you see, the the the skin of the pig, the fat contains   so many vitamins.  

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Yeah. It's,   oh, we we've been lied to about everything, haven't we? Everything.   Everything. You know, we all stopped eating butter because it's full of fat.  

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Yeah. But we need fat, especially women especially women. We need fat   because fat regulates our hormones.   And this is the other thing that we've been battling against.   And there's a lay another lady doctor. I can't remember her name. I'll have to find her name. She'd done a podcast with,   I think it was doctor Ken Berry.   And, she explained the importance of fat for women.   And what's happened over the years is that we've been told that,   oh, yeah, we're perimenopausal   and then we're going through the menopause and then you need HRT and you need this. And she said, all it is is because women have been kept away from animal fat.   Therefore, our hormones,   hormones are not regulated.  

So when we get to the towards the end of our cycle, our, you know, our   lifelong cycle,   that's when we suffer the most.   And then let's not forget on top of that, we've got the contraceptive pill and then obviously foods that interfere with hormones and everything.   This is why women   absolutely need animal fats,   and we need collagen.   We need   all of us do. And we need iodine. Do you know that iodine is in raw milk?  

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No. I didn't actually. Yeah. And I I'm a bit gutted because,   I've had bad acid reflux   for many, many years, and it's only now I'm on that journey   out of it because I had a food intolerance test.   And back in August,   I'd sourced raw milk, and I'd gone back to eating real butter. And things flared up from then, but I really didn't make the distinction. You know? And,   so, unfortunately, for me at the moment,   I can't go down that raw milk avenue or butter just because it's all from a cow. At some point, I will try again,  

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but trying to get raw milk is like doing a dodgy drug deal somewhere. Yeah. It's yeah. I'm I'm quite lucky that I've I've worked with a farmer, and she actually does a round and delivers. She's been doing it for 3 3 years. Yeah. So I'm very lucky.   But again I'm not a massive,   drinker of milk but my kids, my family are, but I'm not. So but I won't,   you know, I won't criticise it because I know it has a lot of goodness. Yeah, yeah. And you know there's a lot of people that will that there's a lot of people that have jumped on the bandwagon saying, you know, the cruelty to the animals,   the pus in the milk and this, that. The one thing that I will agree with the vegans or the vegetarians is yes I agree.  

The industry   of mass marketing   is not treating the animals properly.   That I will agree   because when you are a small farm or a farm that cares for its animals,   You look after them. You put a lot of love into it.   And you know you don't   you're not going to   you're not doing it for mass profit.   You're doing it to kind of either sustain yourself or   to produce for a local   community or a village   but because now it's become so big,   they don't care how they treat the animals and that is wrong.   That's where the problem lies and that I will agree with.   And we need to a bit but greed has taken over and so they don't and and they they're pumping the animals in the supermarkets full of you know hormone growth to try and get these   And it's no good. I won't I won't buy meat from a supermarket. If I can avoid it, I will avoid it like the plague, especially Tesco's. It's the worst meat.  

Yeah. I'll try and find a reputable butcher, you know, a family run one that,   sources from,   independent   farms, or I will work with the farmer directly, but it is more expensive.   I can't do it all the time.   So I will buy my eggs from I've got my own chickens, but   at the moment, it's not season.   But I will if I can't if I don't have any, I'll source someone who's got chickens   in in you know, that's what they do.   I will do my utmost   to buy from local farms and not supermarkets.  

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And I think a lot of people are going down that route now, those that are conscious   of what's going on, but unfortunately,   there's so many people that aren't. I mean, you look at the size of people   and you just know their lifestyle.   And just a conversation with someone yesterday, she said, oh, I eat crap all the time, and she was big, I suppose.   And you just feel that people are ignorant, but, ultimately, it's not their fault.   You know? If they're feeling unwell all the time and not great because of the rubbish they're eating, the last thing they wanna do is look into any of it, isn't it? But there's a lot of people you know, they they use the excuse saying, I haven't got time to prepare a, a meal. We've gotta have processed food. And Well But like someone said the other night, but they've got time to sit down and watch the soaps all evening.  

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Absolutely.   Absolutely. And you know what the amazing thing about carnival?   If you haven't got the time, what does it take to cook a steak?   True. Literally. What does it take? It nothing. It takes 5 minutes  

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or 10 minutes. Does your diet what what's you know, go through your day. What are you eating, Laura?  

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I try to like, today, for instance, because I have been,   in the last week, I've been sort of really busy and I haven't had time and so we've fallen off the wagon a bit. But today, for instance,   I haven't eaten   I've I've been to the gym as well. I've I've ate nothing   until,   earlier just before I jumped on with you and then I cooked a whole load of chicken wings   and chicken drumsticks.   If I'm really hungry then I'll have, I don't know, bacon and eggs in the morning,   full fat yogurt with maybe some nuts, because I'm not strict to keto board so that's why I call it,   I'm not strict to carnival so I'll do a keto board.  

But sometimes I'll have yogurt and nuts.   Every now and again I might have some fruit on it, some berries I think like raspberries or blueberries   but, you know, I very, very rarely touch veg anymore   and I used to love veg   and   I used to think   if I felt, you know, a bad stomach or whatever, I used to get a big bowl of different mix of veg, steam them and eat the veg with a bit of, you know,   I don't know, I used to do a squeeze lemon, a bit of olive oil and   salt.   Now   I have zero craving for veg, zero interest.   I don't miss it and nor does my body.  

And that is the truth. My body does not miss veg.   And now if I do eat veg,   I can taste how sweet they are.   We don't need it. We don't we don't need fibre. There's a massive misconception   that our body needs fibre.   We don't. Our body fiber is wastage,   and that's why they tell you tweak fiber to help it coming out of your body and but all you're doing is creating more wastage.  

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That's fascinating, though, isn't it? Because it is like you say. In the older generation in particular, it's like, oh, I've got problems going to the toilet. I need fiber,   then I'll go to the toilet.   Yeah. And any problem that you go to the doctor with regarding your stomach or issues like that, Everybody's got irritable bowel syndrome.   Everybody.  

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But the funny thing is we actually don't have the stomach to eat fiber.  

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Right.  

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You see, the animals do   because if you you know, a sheep eating grass all day long, well, first of all, I can't eat grass all day long, can you?   But they will eat it and then they will   regurgitate it and keep chewing it and chewing it.   You ever seen the the way that, you know, cows and sheep and or goats and they eat, they swallow, and then, you know, an hour later they're bringing it back up again and chewing it again?   Yeah.   We don't we we our stomach is not made to eat meat to eat, fiber. Sorry.   And so we can't digest it like they can.   So people it's actually the other way around. When people say   that,   we're made to eat fibre and veg, no, we're not actually, we don't have to stomach. Our stomach   should be acidic,   right? The   the, that's the healthy   stomach should be acidic, not alkaline,   it should be acidic because an acidic stomach is able to break everything down. And if you're suffering with acid,   you actually need to put more acid in your stomach.  

So if you have got, you know, a bit of acid in your stomach and you wake up and you hear, oh, you know,   have some   vinegar,   you know, organic,   apple cider vinegar with the mother.   So you need to add more acid to get rid of the acidity.  

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Yeah. That's what I told the doctor, actually, and she looked at me like I was mad.  

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Yeah. They do. But, honestly, that's what that's exactly what we need to do.   So, yeah, I'll have that or you know? And then we might have for dinner, we might have a steak with, some eggs.   I might have some cheese.   What I, you know, they they kinda tell you red meat before white meat.   But, you know, as long as you're eating a mix. And what I do is I I put butter as well. I I I make this infused butter with garlic and herbs.   Because I can't actually eat garlic.   And all my life, I love garlic, but it doesn't love me, and it keeps repeating on me and it gives me a bad stomach. So now I infuse the butter with garlic, but I actually get rid of the garlic.   And,   and I will add that to the steaks and   I know I have 0 problems with my stomach.  

And I've suffered my whole life. I've lost a dress size.   Wow. Yeah. I've gone down one dress size.   I have   absolute   it's like I've got infinite energy, honestly. Sometimes I actually struggle to go to sleep, and anyone that knows me knows that I'm in bed by   I could go to bed at half 7,   and I'm asleep by 8 o'clock. I love going to bed. I'm always tired. I've got no energy, but now it's different.   So when I'm following a strict   keto vore, which is more carnivore than keto,   which basically means I don't eat any   veg at all,   not even the keto veg,   and very very little fruit. Maybe once or twice a month I'll get a fruit craving and I'll think, oh, I fancy a bit of yogurt, natural yogurt with a bit of fruit and nuts. And that's my dessert.  

Now   I've   since doing,   the carnival,   I've not got any sugar cravings anymore. I can actually walk into cake shops   and walk out again without having anything. That, for me, is a miracle.   Miracle.   I don't get that craving.   Right? I don't get bloatedness.   I don't get,   you know, I don't know if anybody else is listening to this but, ladies, I'm sure most of us have been there with our irritable   bowel and you get wind.   I don't get any of that. None of it. My stomach feels amazing.   I sleep better because I've gotten I don't get upset stomach at night.   And I feel   flatter in my stomach even though it's not, obviously, because I've had kids.  

But I just feel   flatter. I don't feel bloated.   And,   you know, as you keep doing it,   your ailments, if you've got any ailments, they many people have reported that everything's gone. Everything.   Your arthritis,   it goes because you're not   most of the problems in our body is because we're raising our insulin. Once you start raising your insulin,   you start creating   problems in the body. And and, you know, and   it it starts attacking your joints and   it it's not good. I don't get any of that anymore, and I'm got energy. I actually wanna get up and do things   and not I don't feel lazy. No. Do do you get bored of it though, Laura? No. No. Actually, that's exactly what I thought I would have done. And I thought I'm gonna get bored. But actually what it does,   it shows you how much we invest too much thinking in preparing foods that we don't need, with flavors we don't need because we need to   we need to meet   the the the, you know, the first of all, we get taught we need to meet the different colours on our plate.  

Oh, yeah. The more colourful, the better. You know? Different colours of veg. And then you've got to because when you first start, you feel like your plate is empty. One piece of steak and maybe 2 eggs, and you're like, well, where's the veg? Where's the where's the rice? Where's the whatever? And so once you get past that,   you start becoming dependent on having to think about what am I gonna cook for dinner   or, you know, I need to go and buy this. And I oh, you   no. You actually start enjoying the fact that your life is not centered around cooking.  

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Yeah. And I guess so when you go back to, like, the start of time and the cavemen and stuff like that, you know, they weren't growing vegetables, were they?  

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Well, if, you know, if you wanna grow veg and you wanna do that, there's absolutely nothing wrong with it. But and if you wanna put veg with it, you know but my point is the lie that we've been told is   that meat is bad for us, animal products are bad for us and that fat, animal fats, not not just any animal fat, is bad for us and I'm   here   to tell you from firsthand experience,   from when I was a child, and I'm talking about people that didn't go to school,   I lived in a village,   they weren't educated,   but everybody knew that meat and animal products   were, you know, as soon as you could get hold of them, you had to eat them because they were very, very good for you.  

Everything else was just there to sustain you.   It is not what we are being told,   and many people are thriving.   And I'm not they are absolutely thriving on the carnival diet. And they have been there's a lady that's been on it for,  

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I think  

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15 years, and she cured everything.   One lady is 84 years old, and you would think she's in her fifties. And she's amazing. She's done a live   podcast with Doctor Chaffee. So if you wanna go and have a look at that.   And she's still running a farm. And if you see her, it's shocking. And she eats animal products.   She's 84. She still gets up and runs the farm.  

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Amazing.   Yeah. So much to be said for it. We have just been lied about so much. Well, everything. Absolutely everything.  

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Yeah. So eat what you want,   but we need to stop this misconception   that we shouldn't be eating animal products,   that we should be eating   plant based because that   is so not true and, in my opinion,   that is there to weaken us   and,   you know, they want to remove what you when you watch films, you watch all the Viking films for instance, or, you know, the the old sort of, you know, any films where there's battles.   You know, they don't sit there and eat veg.   The   the people the poor people, the peasants, they're the ones that eat the greens,   but the kings at the table, they've got all the meat spread.  

Yeah. It shows you who's got the money.   It's the peasants in the courtyards that get thrown the pieces of bread and the grains to grow with,   you know. But   real   alpha strong people or, you know, they eat meat, animal products, that is what   that is what will feed your body with everything it needs. And fat, fat is priority. So don't throw away the skin of the chicken.   Don't throw away the the, you know, the fat off the meat of the steak. Eat it.   And believe me, if you stay away from carbs,   carbs turn into sugars, carbs give you cravings, and they also cause you problems in your stomach. Stay away from carbs,   eat the meat, and you will   thrive.  

Obviously look into it before you decide if you've got any medical conditions. I'm not here to give you medical advice.   Please look into it and, you know, don't just come off meds. Don't do anything drastic. There are certain steps you need to take   and understand   what you're going to do before you do it. Look into it. Research it like I have. There's amazing people you can follow,   but I would absolutely advise people to look into this.  

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Yeah. Well, I I think they will. I'm gonna look into it more. I'm on a few pages, groups on Facebook and stuff. I mean, I'm in a group for everything, to be honest with you. Yeah. There are people post pictures of their breakfast and their dinner and I'm like, oh god. No not for me.' It does not get boring. I can guarantee you it's actually quite a weight lifted off your shoulder, and also what you then learn to do is eat because you're hungry.  

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When you're eating it,   you want it. And when you've had enough and your body's full up, because then also what happens is when you regulate your body, it tells you when you've had enough.   And you don't overeat anymore.   You can't you can't physically overeat fat, it's impossible.   Unless you mix it with carbs, and then that's why you get fat.   Right. Because carbs, the sugar will stop your body working and telling and telling you to switch off because you've had enough. The carbs interfere with that, whereas the fat doesn't.  

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Fascinating it. I love all this dietary stuff. And I've quite often said, oh, I wouldn't mind taking a course in it. But I suppose now the problem is you'd be taught the wrong stuff, wouldn't you? Well, let me tell you something. If you turn if you do the carnival, try it for 30 days Mhmm. I I would I would say don't be so drastic. Do the ketevol,  

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not carnival. But anyway,   do you know the only people that benefit   from that is you?   Because   nobody needs to sell you anything. All all these people pushing the vegan   and, you know, go vegan, go plant based, go this, they still have to take supplements because they they cannot get everything   from the food. They just can't.   But what a lot of people are doing is selling you supplements.   Whereas you don't need   the only thing you really need with,   carnivore is magnesium because we all lack magnesium.   But you you know, I take a bit of iodine   and magnesium, and that's probably it.  

So you benefit, and they lose, which is why   they're trying to push you to not eat meat, to go to the swap to be a vegan because you will be depleted, and you will have to supplement. You can't get b 12 out if you're a vegan. You have to supplement. Mhmm.  

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Oh, it's a fascinating subject. Well, we better round up, Laura. It's been fascinating.   Oh, I love it. Thank you. I love anything foodie. I think I drive people I know nuts. They call me I'm the same. Understood. Shelley from The Good Life I was called a few weeks ago at work, and I was like, I can't help it. I just have to talk about it.  

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Love it. Well, if anyone wants to, you know, follow me on Laura Laura neither on Facebook or or YouTube, but I do plan to do some more   podcasts or chats about the carnival, but it's always so controversial. But, again, I'm not telling you, you know, to change your lifestyle. You do you, but please don't believe  

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the hype that meat and animal products are bad for you because they really are not. And I think most sort of people that follow you and, like, follow myself and stuff, they know   that it's the alternative opinion to the mainstream. So,   yeah? Yeah.   Well, thank you, my lovely. It's been real lovely to listen to that. And No. Thank you for having me on already. You're welcome. And you're you're on Instagram as well, YouTube, TikTok. You're everywhere.  

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I, yeah, I'm don't really use Insta that much or or TikTok because they're really limited. But I've got mainly my main channel is   Facebook, Laura Nina.  

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That's my main account. Just Laura Nina. I have got a joint one, but I don't use that. So and then I've got Telegram and YouTube. Yeah. Brilliant stuff. Okay, my darling. Well, lovely to speak to you. I'm gonna have to do it again another time about another topic, and, we can pick your brains because you're a fountain of knowledge, you are.   We're all learning. We're all our on on our own individual journeys, and this is what's important is everyone has to try everything. Yeah. And share it. And share it. Yeah. Get the word out there. Okay, my darling. Shelly. You take care of yourself, and we'll speak soon. Thank you, lovely. Bye. Bye. Bye bye.   Oh, that was nice.  

This is,   yeah, do follow Laura. She does   cover some absolutely great stuff.   Anyway, this is the 1st night we're back to do in 2 hours.   Maleficas and myself used to do the connection.   We're just gonna run into hour 2, and the awesome Malefika Scott will be joining us.   So   I am gonna play a quick song so I can   nip to the loo very quickly. You didn't need to know that, but after an hour,   I am a lady. Don't you know?   So I'm gonna play a song. I'm gonna play there's a storm coming.   This is a very relevant song, and this is written by my dad, actually, Graham Harp. So I will be back after this song. Don't go away.  

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Can stop it. It's time I just come.   There's no way to hide,   no way to run. There's a storm coming.   There's a storm coming.   You have to see it. It's in your face.   You see the lies all over the place.   It's your decision   which road you take,   but still I would call it when you know it's fair.   Which side   like you know we're gonna have to.   There's a storm   coming.   So much confusion has been put in our head.   I wanna sort it   a stop coming.   There's a stop   coming.   No more evil in my land.  

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And that was the awesome Graham Hart.   Right. Let's get mister Maleficos   on.   We will be more organized in the future.  

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Ring ring ring. He will be there, and he will be on  

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time because he was late last week.   Mister Scott, are you there?  

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I am.  

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Well, congratulations.   You're on time.  

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Sorry.   Can you repeat that? Sorry. I was I was just listening to your radio show, and I realized I just had it on in the background.  

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Oh, right. Okay.  

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Like, got got a bit of over I was just to the to the amazing Graham Hart. Isn't it lovely to be played back in with Graham Hart? Isn't it just yeah. And and what a tune as well. Lyrically, it's a brilliant tune. Yeah. Relevant. There is a storm coming at some point. Certainly is. The people will revolt.   Yeah. They're all revolting. Yeah.  

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Anyway,   how are you?   I'm very good. It's lovely to be back on. It is lovely, isn't it? Much excitement today with mister Maleficar Skoll. He dumped me for a while, listeners, because he needed a bit of a radio break, and here he is and,   full of another fountain full of knowledge as always.  

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You are. I think I needed I think I needed a bit of a subject break. I think that's more more, to be honest, what it was more about. Just, you know, it's we cover some we've always covered some heavy subjects. Yourself, especially, you get mixed up in all sorts of stuff in real life, not just in radio lab as well. So Radio Land. I love it.   Welcome to radio lab. Yeah.   So yeah. Yeah. We cover a lot of heavy heavy subjects, and I think just every so often, I think you you you just need   you can't focus on those subjects 247 and still   yeah. Not with any kind of passion   No. And still juggle   all the other   things like, you know, as my dad always said, I'm I've said it before on the show, but as my dad always says, life is,   life is what happens while you're making plans.  

Yeah. Definitely.   Yeah. So it is.   So, yeah, it's just I I've had a bit of time out. But,   yeah, I mean, to be honest, I'm actually still quite out of the loop in current   modern day affairs. And when I'm talking about modern day affairs, I'm kinda 2025.   I've no idea what's going on in the world, Shelley. None.  

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Other than lucky.  

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Yeah. But other than,   I'm sure the usual suspects are up to their usual nonsense. Of course. The fact that I've missed out on it for a couple of months   doesn't make any difference. It won't take me long to pick back up. Do you get what I'm saying? Oh, definitely. Definitely.  

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I've I've been seeing lots of stuff about, like, Trump the last week, and I'm very, like, undecided. Yes. He's doing lots of things, but he's also, you know, supplying,   oh god. What's the name of it? This is my menopausal   brain going again. Ukraine with money, Israel with money, and, you know, it's it's so underhanded. It's  

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it's all just you know? But it's interesting. You say he he personally isn't supplying them with money. Who's supplying them, quote, unquote, with money? Who supplies everyone with money and agrees to finance certain things under certain circumstances?   It's not   per se presidents or prime ministers, is it? No. Banks. Mhmm. It's banks. It's always   banks.  

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So Yeah. Grabbing money out of thin air, but we supposedly haven't got any, and we're always in debt.  

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Yeah. Well and just just the fact that as we've brought up so many times before,   you know, with this whole opposition thing, oh, you know, they're funding Ukraine, but they're not funding Russia. Yeah. They're funding   they're they're funding Ukraine, but don't forget, you know, Russia is perpetuating a war in an area   that is now grossly indebted to the west, and he's being bought up at a rate of knots by the west to pay for the war effort. So by continuing the war,   all Putin is doing is giving Ukraine to his supposed enemies.   And being as Russia's Central Bank is a member of the bank of quote, unquote,   international   settlements,   we can safely assume that really it's just one back being scratched while the other person twitches their leg for a bit.  

Yeah? Yeah.  

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Close the world down. Let's start afresh.  

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Well, that's what they tried with COVID, isn't it? Yeah. Let's let's see what let's see what we can do with this. Let's just see how much panic we can cause.   See how enthralled the world really is to our system. And, well,   I think it was eye eye eye opener for all of us. Wasn't it all those sort of,   I don't wanna say base, whatever, free thinking people, people that think outside. All those people that are prepared to think outside the box were utterly shocked and stunned at the amount of people that weren't able to think outside the box.  

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True. I, I don't think I told you this. I had a job interview   last week, and on Monday   oh, I don't know. It was Friday last week. I went in to sort out my DBS stuff,   and,   she was I was in a room with, like, another man. Another woman was there as well, and they were chatting. And he said, what would what was you doing before this then? And I said I was working at an old people's home.   And then I said, but, you know, I'm trying to build my photography business back up. I used to have, a studio on the high street.   And then she went, oh, yes. She said, I remember your reputation.  

And I said, what, as a photographer?   And she went, no. More of, outside the cathedral in Cornwall Live.   This is my new boss.   And I looked at her, and I've just my face must have just gone white. And,   she said, but we've all got opinions, haven't we? And I said, yes. We have. I said, wouldn't it be boring if we all thought the same? And I quickly changed the subject.   But Yeah. I still got the job. So  

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Well, that speaks what well, she you've you've probably made up the activist quota in their diversity   roster.  

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Right.  

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Yeah. So they've they've got someone from China. They've got someone from India. We need an activist in there, probably a lesbian, a gay guy, a trans person. You know, you say you've you've   you've filled the activist slot. Well done, you. Thank you.  

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Oh oh, dear. But, yeah.  

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I haven't lowered the tone, have I? Excellent show a minute ago, by the way. And I have to totally agree with your guy. I don't know anything about the the the   the the, the diet itself, but I have to totally agree. Isn't it funny how all these vegans and blah blah blah, they all they're all set. They're going, yeah. But I take this supplement, and I take this vitamin. Yeah. Yeah.   Take a supplement for everything. Laugh. Yeah. Yeah. It makes sense. Just the irony of it. You know?  

[01:09:35] Unknown:

Oh, I am I'm just so into food at the moment. So into I've always I've always been into food. I love it.   I do. When I went out last night, and I've suffered for it because half past 2 in the morning, I woke up and, like, my throat was on fire. But I knew that I was eating something that I shouldn't be eating last night, you know? But sometimes you're like, oh, to hell with it. I'm gonna do it anyway. Oh, the forbidden the forbidden fruits and culinary luxury. Yeah. It was worth it. But, and course, the thing is it still stays in your body for a day or 2, doesn't it? So today, all day, I've been a bit, like, throat hot and stuff like that, but at least I know   the reason for it now, you know, and I'm slowly healing myself. So, yeah, food is, like, my hot topic, and I'd probably bore everyone to tears, to be fair.  



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Well, I know. I think everyone likes talking about food. I mean, most people start talking about food, really. You can tell in the workplace where they either get bored or they're starting to get a bit hungry and food becomes the subject.   And everyone starts fantasizing about, you know,   oh, what it'd be like to have bluff.   Yeah. Yeah. I read a as you know, I read a lot of, like, wartime stuff and and some of it, you know, some of the   little, like, the the   stupid little things that they would consider   luxury. Like, you know, just in World War 1, just just having a tin of jam somewhere in the trench   was just, you know, wasn't always a heard of thing. You know? So just little luxuries like that. And and   like your guest said, what was her name? Sorry. Laura Nina.  

Laura. That's right. Yeah. What Laura was saying about, you know,   you you you tend to then when you're only eating the things that are good for you, you tend to eat   when you're hungry.   And wow, when you eat, when you're hungry and you're not just picking at stuff and grazing as they call it nowadays,   when you eat, when you're hungry, food just tastes so much better,   you know, and we, we did a thing over Christmas this year because we're,   every other year, we'll have,   in laws here or or whatever. You know? We'll have parents here or whatever every other year at Christmas.   On the year that we don't,   we don't do a traditional Christmas thing. So this last Christmas, we did a Chinese night and I did like duck and we, I did,   crispy beef and plum sauce and stuff like that. And,   my daughter did this chicken and cashew nuts, and it was amazing. It was just, you know, she was only going I'm not being funny. She was only going off the recipe   that she liked the look of online. She does a bit of cooking. She does a bit of baking and stuff, but she anyway was going off a recipe that she found and she liked online, and she had to improvise for some of the ingredients. We had fresh ginger and all that kind of all the all the important stuff when you're doing food like that. It's really important to have, like, the fresh ginger, the fresh chilies. You know?  

But it was it was stunning to the point where now we've got a a, apparently, a great Chinese restaurant up at the top of the hill above us, and we've used it a few times. Apparently, many people come from all over the place to go to it.   What she made on Christmas day was far better, and no monosodium glutamate, no   no nasties, no additives, no GM, no not cooking GM oil. No. That All these places now, the particularly Chinese restaurants that, you know, have a little note up outside on the counter saying we we cook in GM oil. You   know?  



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Yeah. To get it tasty, and it is, but it's another food that I really suffer with. Oh, I love it, though, but we hardly have ever have it now because I'm beginning to learn. It's just not worth it.  

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Yeah. But it's it's if you make it yourself Yeah. If you make it yourself. Yeah. It's different. And and do you know what? So much better. So much nicer.   So much nicer. Yeah. Just yo, folks, just have a little bit of confidence and and go online, look at a recipe,   loosely follow the instructions. As long as you've got all the right ingredients, it's not gonna taste bad, and it won't kill you. It's not bad for you. You know? And it's all about the ingredients, really, isn't it? As long as, you know   one of the worst things I think you can put too much of something in is is probably   coriander. That's like a really sour, bitter taste. But if you leave it out of something like salsa or something like that, you don't get that proper taste.  

So you can add too much of some things, but but by rule of thumb, there's that phrase again, by rule of thumb,   in actual fact, you you can't go wrong just by having the ingredients in front of you   and just throw it together yourself regardless of the quote, unquote recipe, the the means of cooking.   So, yeah, just have be a bit more confident. Have a little bit more faith in yourself, people. Yeah. Yeah. Do you know what I mean?  

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I do. I do, Maleficus.   I've just had a week. I can't I can't be bothered to cook. You know, we we've had baked potatoes tonight, some boring information, but that's just one of those reasons. Meal once in a while. Yeah. I'm not enjoying food like that at the moment. I tell you why.   Yeah. Perhaps I'm eating at the wrong time because I'm not hungry. But the meal I had last night was delicious and Italian, and I I love a carbonara.   But Oh, okay. Oh, I love it. But, yeah, that was my treat for the week. So  

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we went And, of course, lots of dairy in in Yeah. Carbonara.   Yeah.  

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Yep. Yeah. So I suffered in the night, but, hey, I knew it was gonna happen.   So well, sometimes you just gotta do it, aren't you? You can't you know what's gonna happen, but, you know, it is what it is.  

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So It is. Life goes on regardless.   Yeah. Yeah. Regardless of how much pain you're in.  

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Patrick's just left a comment and said good Chinese food does not include dog.  

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Or cat, apparently. Or cat. Yeah. That was that was a funny thing. My dad came around a few years back, and he bought round with him. He ordered, like, Chinese for everyone and and probably enough for Nick Dora as well. He turned out with this huge box for the Chinese.   And the cardboard box went on the floor, and both the cats were sniffing around it. And I remember when someone turned around and said said made the comment of, hey. I can smell another cat in the house.  

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Well, I wonder what cat tastes like. I wonder if you would be able to, like, taste the difference.   Because they say, like, we   apparently tastes like,   chicken, don't we?  

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Yeah. I don't see how that equates because I would imagine we were sort of a red meat. But Well, yeah. And then other people say we're closer to the pork  

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side of things.   I don't know. I'll have to try a bit of flesh and,  

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we can go from there. You'll have to travel to another country to do it.   Don't think you can do that here.   Yeah. No. No. Yeah. Despite what overseas listeners might think after watching league of gentlemen and things like that, I don't don't think you can actually do that sort of thing over here, even in rural villages.  

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Well, we'll have to wait to end times when we're all eating each other and,  

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yeah. Actually, it's funny. One of the stories I've got lined up, one of the sort of not necessarily Cornwall, but west country stories I've got lined up for a later show is about a family of cannabals,   actually, the west country.   Yeah. So that that's, that's quite an interesting one, but, I'm not quite okay with the the the background of it yet. So that's probably I'll bring that up in a week or 2.   It's it's nice to be back.  

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It's nice to have you back and nice that you're here and you're on time and you're all ready. I'm on time. Yeah.  

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Absolutely. Well, that's the first time for everything.  

[01:16:55] Unknown:

No. You're usually quite punctual, aren't you? Yeah. And I'm looking forward to your little story tonight. I was like, yay. Yeah. I can get my xylophone out again.  

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Alright. I like my xylophone when you used to do your little kernel connection. Yeah. Well, I'll tell you what. We have, not so much a kernel. Well, it is a kernel connection, but we've got we've got a a bit of a a spooky story for you later. So that should be quite good. So I'll wait till after the part of the hour for that. Okay.   Yeah. Yeah. It's to do with the murder. But, yeah.   Anyway,   so Cornwall   recently, Shelley Yes. Do you realize we have typhoon families in Quintal Downs? Did you know that?  

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No.  

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So so Quintal Downs, little tiny village just outside Newquay,   got hit by a tornado.   A freak tornado lasted about 2 minutes. Literally, 2 minutes.   Ripped a load of tiles off of buildings, pulled over trees, did all sort of absolute carnage, actually.   Just for 2 minutes of, like,   hideous weather. You know, 1,000 and 1,000 of pounds worth of damage. Anyway,   I noticed that all the local rags, I e, Cornwall lies, Cornwall live,   is describing these people as   tornado   families.  

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Oh, I love it. I love it.  

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You're gonna love a bit of sensationalism,   haven't you? And I'm not taking away from,   you know, obviously, the hardships that people have suffered because, you know, losing your roof in a storm is not pleasant.   You know, all sorts of damage. No one no one was killed or anything like that, but it did make national news.   I was talking to a friend of mine about it, and he said, wow. He said, they should go over to Nevada and   experience   a tornado   over there.  

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Yeah. It was pretty scary, though. I nearly woke Darren up because I'd been watching   the news, the fear porn, because I was Yeah. Supporting someone. They had it on. Do you any good. No. It doesn't. And I, like, watched some of what had happened, like, roofs being blown off and stuff. But the hail that night and the thunder and lightning, I was thinking, oh my god. Is our roof gonna fall off or something? But at the same time, it was cozy. I do like it when it's ticking down with rain and you're in bed or just in the house. Love it. Yeah. I was woken up by the fur well, because we had, thunderstorm literally right over the house. Like lightning occurring at the same time as the thunder, if you get what I mean. Yeah. Lush.  

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The first one woke me up.   And the second one,   wow. I mean, that rumble must have gone on a good 25,   30 seconds. Seriously. It was just like, well, she went on forever and seemed to echo up into the distance. And it was like,   wow. That was loud. My poor daughter got up. She thought the the roof had come off the building. You know? It was literally, it was that loud. It was right above the house. So yeah. Exhilarating. I love it. One of my favorite memories is is when we had our old camper van, not the one we got now. When we had our old camper van when the kids were really little,   we went down to Mullion   in Cornwall. And, there was a thunderstorm overnight. And the kids had been running around like maniacs and swimming and all sorts all day. So they were naked. They completely slept through it. And the missus and me just sat up in bed looking out the back windows,   drinking a bottle of red wine, watching this amazing,   like, lightning show. It was a it was brilliant. So I love stuff like that. It just fascinates me. Yeah. The elements.  



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Yeah. Raw natural power. Yeah. It's climate change, actually, Maleficus.   Is it? It is.  

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So I've been out of touch. Sorry. Things have changed. So I thought I thought so when I was into radio a few months back, all that was a whole lot of  

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balls.   Is it?  

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Yes. Far as I'm aware. Yeah. Something someone didn't send me the memo. Either that or I just ignored it. Yeah. Yeah.  

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You knew I'm jossing with your boy. I know. I know. Just just jesting. Jesting.   Jesting. Jossing. Yeah.  

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Is there anything else been occurring in Cornwall  

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for you at least? For me? No. I I went to a gig last night. I watched the illegal Eagles.  

[01:21:06] Unknown:

Oh, is that the oh, okay. That's an Eagles cover band. Oh, yeah. Oh, my days.  

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I watched them with mum in November because my dad couldn't go, and I was like, okay. I'll keep mum company, and I've never really listened to the Eagles stuff, and I loved it.   And then I came home and I started a friend requested one of them on Facebook.   Anyway, I see their posts going up, and we went last night, me, mom, and Darren,   and he just walked right past me. And I went,   hey, junior Greg Webb.   No. Hey,   Greg Junior Webb. That's his Facebook name. And he looked around and he went, oh, I thought I was quite well disguised. And I just said, I'll introduce myself, Shelley Tasker, Facebook friend.   Kind of looked at me. I just said, anyway, have an amazing gig. But I was like, yes. I've actually just had a very quick chat with you.  

Yeah. That's true. Yeah. But then when you release up there doing this stuff, you realize that they're just they're just humans like everyone else. They are. And he, like, mingles with people on Facebook and stuff like that. And I did say to Darren, I'm gonna message him and see if he'll be a guest on the show 1 week.   And, you know That'd be great. He did Darren said tonight, have you messaged him then? I said, no. I don't want him to think I'm a stalker, do I? I'll give it a few days.  

[01:22:21] Unknown:

Wow.   Shit. Oh, man. Yeah. The Eagles music though. I mean, I was brought up on a on a lot of that. You know, peaceful, easy feeling and, obviously, Hotel California is a great one. And, you know, you   Hotel California, that's quite a tune, isn't it?  

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Yeah. It's not one of my more favorite ones. I mean, I didn't know that. Favorite one then?   There's a hole in the world   tonight. Something like that.   I don't know them all. Just have it plain. That's what I mean. They did so many albums. I've probably been listening to it. It's not even by the Eagles. You know what I'm like?   No. It's it's the Eagles. It is the Eagles. But, yeah, they did loads of albums. And, I mean, there were songs I'd wish they'd done last night, but, obviously, they change it every tour they do. But, no, it was awesome. Awesome. I was probably   one of the younger people there, so to speak.  

But it's not really our era, is it?   No. No. But I love live music anyway. And when they're like that, I'm that professional, when, you know, after every song, like, some guy would come out and give them all a different guitar.   How lovely.  

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Yeah. Oh, it's it's nice to have that many guitars. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, having said that, one of my favorite bands, Rival Sons, I think they took the the the lead guitarist tours was about 13 guitars or something like that because it suppose it's like part of the show, isn't it? You know?  

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Yeah. I was thinking that guy, they must have names on them or some of them.   I'd give them all the wrong guitars. But,   yeah. I just suddenly had a thought flash up, and I will say it, actually.   Yeah. The other week, a couple of weeks ago, I had my daughter on the show with me, and we were talking about I know we talked about it after me and you. We were talking about intrusive   thoughts.   Okay?   And I can remember my daughter doing a play. She used to do a lot for, like, the amateur dramatic society when she was younger, and I was stood on the side   watching,   and I had one of those,   intrusive thoughts.  

But I said it out loud to the to the lady that, like, the whole producer of the show. She was stood next to me. I said, wouldn't it be funny if I just ran across the stage naked now? And I'm god knows why I said that. And she looked at me, and she went, no. It certainly would not.   But it was just intuitive thought that I said out loud.   I'm never gonna do that, obviously, but I think she was a bit worried.  

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Anyway, that thought just popped into my head. Is this woman looking to me for affirmation of some sort?  

[01:24:55] Unknown:

Oh, but I do get these, intrusive thoughts. Yeah. Doing well, I don't know. I think everyone does, though. It's a it's a means of process. It's a means of processing, isn't it? Yeah. But I'd never heard of such a thing before.   So, anyway, I know you now and, you know, when it it pops into my head, it's good to just allow it to stay there and, yeah, take no notice of that. Have a not have a Tourette's moment about it. No. No. No.  

[01:25:18] Unknown:

Or don't voice it out loud. Yeah. Well, exactly. Yeah. That's that's part of the Tourette's thing. Yes. That's part of the Tourette's tic, isn't it? Or or can be. Yeah. I do tend to speak a lot before I think  

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one of my worst flaws.   But hey ho. We've all got them.  

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So last time I spoke to you Mhmm. You were reading Hellstorm.  

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I was.  

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Yeah. Are you still reading Hellstorm? Have you still got the stomach for it?  

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Yeah. I wanted to ask you. I'm sure it is, and I could look myself.   Oh my god, Maleficus.   The stories,   when he's saying that one of them is saying about how they   described the   oh, buggery bollocks. What's the name, of, like, the Japanese, but they were called a special name?   Gorillas?  

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Oh, okay. Yes. Potentially.  

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Okay.   And how they tortured   the men, they cut off their genitals   and put them in their mouths   and hung them.   And I've oh my days.  

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Yeah. That's that's you know, and, as far as historically, as far as warfare is concerned,   that's really quite a common thing. And when my dad was serve yes. When my dad was serving my dad served with 8 squadron out in Aden.   Aden was the   when Aden fell,   Britain no longer had an empire.   When Aidan, you know,   left British hands, Britain no longer had an empire   on which the sun never set.   So,   and dad was there in the final   years of us being part of Aidan, us us, you know, looking after Aidan, quote, unquote, it being part of our empire.   And,   people used to have to go on   guard duty. I've talked about it a little bit before on the show, actually. They used to send the pilots up with what they called ghoulie chits.  



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Right.  

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So a ghoulie chit   was a piece of paper that you kept in your,   leg pocket, like, an underneath your map because, like, all pilots, well, they used to have a a a map pocket on one leg so that they could look down and have they'd have a visual on their leg, a paper version of the map of where they were flying over. So, you know, if if worst came to worst, they had that to rely upon.   And, in that pocket, they used to carry what they called a ghoulie chit. And a ghoulie chit was essentially a piece of paper written in Arabic   that said   it was in the event of if they crash landed or had to parachute.  

And and and in Arabic, it read something along the lines of,   if you present this man intact,   I e in 1 piece, I e with his genitals,   we will pay you this much money.   If you give if you,   if you return this man not intact,   basically, you won't get as much money.   So what they would do is take the lower price anyway, most of the time.   And most of the farmers,   you know, when when the pilots crashed out there, most of the farmers, the goat herders and stuff, they couldn't read anyway.   Oh my days. So the gully chips. So that was a that was a thing. But, also,   on the base that my dad was stationed on,   whoever went on sentry duty, guard duty in the at night, they didn't the quartermaster, when they dealt you out your rifle and your box boxes of ammunition,   they didn't like you taking the ammunition out of the boxes because each bullet was wrapped in wax paper to stop it from going rusty, to stop it from tarnishing.  

Because that's, you know, you you shouldn't have ammunition that you can stick in the barrel and that kind of thing. So, they didn't like you taking the ammunition out of the box and especially not out of these little wax sleeves, wax paper sleeves,   that each round was in.   So they would issue these. They tell these guys to go out on duty.   They'd be carrying a rifle, but the clip was empty because the rounds were in their pocket.   Oh. And that all stopped   when one man was found dead in the century box at the time for guard change with his ball stitched into his mouth.   So it's not uncommon. God.  

It's not uncommon.  

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Oh oh my days.   That just tastes He was dead, obviously. Yeah. Yeah. Crikey.   Oh, I don't even think about that. I'll have nightmares tonight.  

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It was slight change of subject, but just just Probably a good thing. It's a form of the hour. I think people are trying to relax by the way. Still a you know, on  

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on Monday, it was National Holocaust Day, wasn't it?   Yeah. Yes. It was. Yeah. And they were all they were all saying this must never happen again, what we've seen. And it's like, how have they got the audacity to say that, these reporters and such? And,   it's going on now   in Palestine and at other places.   It's still happening.  

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It's It's been funded all over the world. This holocaust of what what David Irving refers to as an innocenticide,   a a a genocide of innocence.   This innercenticide is going on all over the planet. And depending on which news channel you watch, depends on, you know, which things have got to stop and can never happen again.  

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Yeah. It's mental   mentoring. Crazy.  

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Absolutely crazy.   And, also, it just shows you the the blatant one-sided   aim, you know, one-sided leaning of of the UK media.   It's all in the pockets of the financiers that,   you know, are financing all these wars in the first place. So they're not gonna say anything against them, are they? No. No. I've I find it interested  

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as time goes on, like, when you dip in and out of the news and stuff like that because   because I'm aware of what's going on. You see how they're trying to manipulate   people.   You know? So and I was watching   the other night a Robbie Williams   document   documentary.  

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Bless you. God. Was it was it strenuous?  

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No.   I don't watch much TV, and I wanted something crap to watch. Okay? No. Well, you have made a right a wise choice. No. No. No. You know what I mean. When you when you don't have to think, you can just sit there, and you can What do you mean? You can, like, look at the phone. Oh, okay. Sorry. Well, you're on your phone at the same time. It's not that good. And, I mean, I started Sunday, called the midwife. I watched it, but, oh my god, it was all about the measles vaccine. And that is my one once a week little lovely feel good program.   And I was like, oh, for god's sake. You had to really do it. Turned you off. Yeah. Yeah. It did. But, this Robbie Williams,   documentary,   basically, how the English press murdered him. I mean, I know he's still alive, but all of his breakdowns and everything was down to the press.  

And, I mean, I know we we know this goes on everywhere anyway, but it was just interesting again seeing this perspective of how in the English tabloids treated him.   And was it not also down to probably taking copious amounts of cocaine and and things like that as well? I think Yeah. But then it's yourself what The Love Supreme song and video, I think, says an awful lot. You gotta ask yourself as well, why was he taking all of that stuff? And that you see, like, footage of him before he goes on stage having a shoot of, steroids and stuff and getting close to a nervous breakdown because all he can see is what the press are doing to him and his new song.   And,   oh, I felt for him. I felt for him. And he's always come out of that, but it was the press that   turned him that way because he was so Yes. Of course. And he chose. He chose  

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as well.   He chose to do that. You know what? I think you you you think you think they're taking away from his dream? It was never his dream. No. In the first place, he's been sucked up the same way they all are. They've been sucked up into the music industry.   It's a it's a it's a dreadful, dreadful place to be. I've had family members that have been mixed up in it, and they've said, you know, what a dreadful environment   it is to be in and around.   Toxic. Dreadfully toxic.   And quite a dangerous environment as well, especially if you look at what they did to the likes of   fuck. God, the list is endless. Amy Winehouse, Jimmy Hendrix. Yeah. Kirk complaining.  

Look at the list is endless.   And, you know, if it had made the 27 club, that would've that would've just made them happy. I'm sure. Yeah. But,   you you have to say you you have to say that,   you know, he's he's reaping what he's sown.   You get the benefits of you know, Michael Jackson wasn't untouchable by these people. You reap the benefits of what they give you, and you are subject to whatever they want to do to you.   And if you don't tow the line, then they'll do to you whatever they see fit.  

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Yeah. You're not wrong. You're not wrong. It was just, I felt for him. Okay? Yeah. No. Totally. Even though he did wrong and what have you or, you know, he was a he was affected. Yeah. He was affected. He played into the you know, like you say, you're in that system.   You become a star.  

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What they give to you, they're gonna take away from you at the same time. So Do you do you know what? One of my biggest I was gonna say hero. One of my biggest heroines in that area   has got to be West Country girl, Joss Stone.   Alright. Yeah. Do you remember Joss Stone? I remember the name. Yes. Joss Stone, beautiful voice. She she was, I think, one of the last female singers to sing live on stage with James Brown. She made it over to the stage. She she had a real soulful voice,   wrote all her own stuff. Cornish girl, actually went to school with someone that I knew. I never met her, but they knew each other if you know what I mean. Mhmm.   And,   yeah, the record could basically, they gave her a record contract.  

She came out with the first album. And then when it came to signing the next contract, they said, we want 3 albums. We want you dressed like this. We want you to blah blah blah blah blah. And she was just like, you know what?   I don't reckon.   Turned her back on the whole thing. You know, having gone the full hog moon for the states and sung with James Brown. I mean,   you know, the king of soul, and she had a beautiful song. Look her up after the show. Anyone, go look her up now. Yeah. I know who she is. Jostard. She had a beautiful one. Why you you don't hear anything about   her anymore. Yeah. So, in as far as I'm concerned,   absolute heroin. Brilliant. Well done to her. Yeah. Good all. Set a brilliant example   for all those kids that are never gonna hear her name.  

Sad, ain't it? It is. But, yeah, I admire her. Yep. Stand up. I believe it. Like you said earlier in the show, earlier, you know, in the earlier half of the show, you know, we we are totally living in an inversion. We're not told.   Yeah. We're, you know, we're being lied to left, right, and center to the point where no one knows whether they're coming or going. Even those people in who think they're in the know.   Yeah. Yeah.   They don't know whether they're coming or going, really. You know?   And knowledge is a is a great thing, but, you know, it's also the it's the old adage, isn't it? A little knowledge   can be a dangerous thing. And how much is a lot of knowledge compared to a little knowledge? Well,   how bit how long is a piece of string? So it's what I suppose is what you do with it, isn't it? Yeah.  



[01:36:32] Unknown:

Yeah. Well, the whole knowledge thing, I think, like you say, you do you learn from reading, and I've learned so much over the books that I've read. You know, your granddad's book, these recent books I've had for Christmas and stuff.   I don't think you get that from, like, little 2 minute YouTube clips and things like that. You know? You have to get a reading can't understand it. With more questions. Yeah. You're left with more questions, aren't you, than than you are you know, it's like,  

[01:36:58] Unknown:

back during the lockdown era,   one of the people in my special circle was mister Von Kerr, who you had on your show. Mhmm. And,   he used to come around and visit. And we'd have all sorts of chats about things. And   that was a time for him where he he got opened up into a sort   of he's always been a clued up guy. Don't get me wrong. But he's he was opened up into a body of knowledge, which he never realized existed. And we were touching on little bits here and there. And, and he'd asked me a question, and I'd get literally,   joke, not even a paragraph in. I'd get, like, half a sentence in, and he'd stop me and have another question about what I'd said. So 2 minute YouTube shorts just won't suffice. They'll suffice if you're lazy and can't really be bothered and don't really give a toss and want to go back to your mobile phone and   and bathe in blue light and just be generally fulfilled in that department.  

But, no, if you wanna know stuff, you've gotta put time and effort in as you well know. You know? If you're wading through hailstorm right now, then that's   that's that's a journey and a half, and I've only seen the movie.  

[01:38:00] Unknown:

Oh, right. Well, I will watch the movie after I've read the book, but no. I can't say I'm enjoying it, but it's not, you know, it's not hard   reading.   I don't think it is.   It's kept me   in engaged. That's the word. It's kept me engaged. Yeah. Yeah. But all of this book stuff, like, Piran isn't a great reader, and he always says he can read. He's a good reader, but he doesn't love books or anything like that. He used to like the picture books when he was younger, and he's moving bedrooms this weekend into bigger boys' room and new desk and all that jazz.   He's gonna have a bedside table with a a lamp. And the new rule is, like, at half past 9,   reading or sleep.  

And he's on board with that, and I'm a bit excited because I think, right, he's got a stack of books he had for Christmas and things. I just want him to read.  

[01:38:49] Unknown:

You know? Yeah. I know. But I just want him to read. And I'm like, can I discipline? Then. Let him choose what he wants. He can choose. I've never that. Yeah. Yeah. But that's his thing. You can either read or Well, I remember remember a few months back, you were saying you were gonna read a bit with him. He won't let me. He won't let me. And you bought you bought that book because you wanted to read it to him, not because he wanted to read it to him. What book was that? That was the do it. That was the,  

[01:39:18] Unknown:

oh, the the writer of 1984.   George Orwell? Yeah. Animal Farm. That's it.   Maybe it was a bit advanced, but I picked up this, bible, this secondhand bible at Tesco's on the bookshelf. They have, like, charities and stuff purely because I thought I'll read it as well.   And because it's a children's book, each bible story is only like a chapter long. And I thought, well, that will give me a brief, and it'll save me reading the long version in the bible.  

[01:39:45] Unknown:

So minute YouTube shorts?  

[01:39:47] Unknown:

No. No. No. As long as I've got just a basic idea   and I mean, I'm sure I can look more into something if I find it really interesting.   But he came into bed the other night, and he said, mommy, he said, I can't sleep because I've just got this question going round and round in my head. And I said, what's that? He said, well, I can't figure out if when we die,   we come back or we stay up there. And I was like, oh my god. I've been dying for conversations like this with you.   So we we just spoke for a few minutes, and I just said what I think. You know? But it was nice, and I think it was because maybe that book's in there about the Bible.   I don't know. But I'm just kind of hoping you might see 6 months down the line, it's like he chooses not to read and just goes to bed at half past 9.  

But no. I'm hoping. I'm really hoping that he'll stop reading. Obsessed for reading because he reads the subjects he wants. He's interested   Exactly.  

[01:40:38] Unknown:

He's gonna choose the best. And I will take like learning a musical instrument, isn't it? It's pointless learning baa baa black sheep. Yeah. No one wants to learn baa baa black sheep. You know? No. No. So anyway well, we've well gone over the top of the hour. Bottom of the hour. Oh, I know. I know. I know. Bottom of the hour. Which one? It but it's all in bottom of the hour. But it's it's all important stuff, though. It's all important stuff. And and my little my little anecdote doesn't won't take very long anyway. So that's that's,   just just a little theme. Get us back in the back in the swing of the West Country Manor. See.  

Well, I'm gonna read it to you now. You're gonna like this. Alright. Hang on. Okay. So Hang on. Let me just get my xylophone.  

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Go.  

[01:41:21] Unknown:

Brilliant. Brilliant. You've you've been practicing on that. I have.   I feel like you have. The notes rang out a little bit truer than they normally did. I think it's our tune. Anyway,   I came for it. Someone stood on it.   Okay.   Okay. So this is,   murder in Weybridge.   Okay? So   on the evening of 8th February   18 40,   mister Neville Norway, a Cornish gentleman, was cruelly murdered by 2 brothers   of the name of Lightfoot   on his way home from Bodmin to Weybridge,   the place of his residence.   At this time, his brother, mister Edmund Norway, was in command of a merchant vessel   named the Orient on her voyage from Manila to Cadiz,   When the following is is in his own account,   the follow following is is his own account of the dream, which he had on the night when his brother was murdered.  

So   I want you to bear in mind I'll explain in a sec. So about 7:30 PM,   the island of Saint Helena,   which is north northwest, distant about 7 miles,   we shorten sail   and rounded to the ship's head,   round the ship's head to eastward.   At 8, set the watch and went below   and wrote a letter to my brother, Neville.   About 20 minutes or a quarter before 10 o'clock,   I went to bed and fell asleep, and I dreamt that I saw 2 men attack my brother and murder him.   1 caught the horse by the bridle and slapped a pistol twice, but I heard no report.   He then struck him a blow, and he fell off his horse.  

They struck him several blows and dragged him by his shoulders across the road and left him. In my dream, there was a house on the left hand side of the road.   So at 4 o'clock,   I was called and went on deck to take charge of the ship.   I told the second officer, mister Henry Wren,   that I had had a dreadful dream, namely that my brother Neville was murdered by 2 men on the road from Saint Columb to Weybridge.   But but I felt sure that it could not be there, as the house there would have been on the right hand side of the road.   So   so that it must it must have been somewhere else, he replied.  

I'm sorry. He replied, don't think anything about it. You Westcountry people are so superstitious.   You'll make yourself miserable   for the remainder of the voyage.   He then left the general orders   and went below.   It was one continued dream.   It   it was one continued dream from the time I fell asleep to the time I was called at 4 o'clock in the morning. That is the statement of Ed Edmund Norway, chief officer   of the ship, the Orient ship.   Okay. So I want you to bear in mind also that the island of Saint Helena, north northwest about 7 miles,   is in exactly the same time zone as Cornwall.  

Okay? Yeah.   The confession of William Lightfoot, one of the assassins who really did murder Neville Norway,   who was executed together with his brother for the crime, Bodmin, on 13th April 18 40   is as follows.   I I was gonna read it in a west country accent, but I don't think I will.   I went to Bodmin last Saturday week,   8th February. And in return, I met my brother at the top of Drummer Hill.   It was dim like.   We came out on the turnpike road   all the way until we came to the house near the spot where the murder was committed.   We did not go into the house, but hid ourselves in the field.  

My brother knocked mister Norway down   and snapped a pistol at him twice, but it didn't go off.   He then knocked him down with the pistol.   I was there along with him. Mister Norway was struck while on the horseback.   It was on the turnpike road between Perakan Mill,   and the post depicting towards Weybridge.   I cannot say what time of night it was.   We left the body in the water on the side of the road coming to Weybridge.   We took some money in a purse,   but I don't know how much. My brother drew the body across the road into the water.   So the evidence of the various witnesses called to the trial of the assassins   proved that the murder must have been committed   between   10:11   at night.  

That being said, what time was the guys what time did the guy go to sleep?   20 minutes or a quarter before 10 o'clock, I went to bed and fell asleep.   Dreamt, I saw 2 men attacking my brother. So there you go.   So that I thought that was quite an interesting little anecdote for the, for the, west start back of the Westcountry theme to your show, missus.  

[01:46:25] Unknown:

Very good, Maleficus. That's a bit of a well, there is one, isn't it? It's a bit like a a tongue twister in a story.  

[01:46:32] Unknown:

What is the tongue twister in a story? Well, that  

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story that you've just read out, that little antidote.  

[01:46:39] Unknown:

That that whole paradox, just the fact that his brother dreamt Yeah. His Yeah. Dreamt about the murder as it was occurring. Yeah. And he was on the same timeline. He was on the same meridian.  

[01:46:52] Unknown:

Janelle, I'm just gonna have to I'm gonna have to play this back tomorrow.   You know when my brain goes?   And this is only how I found a meme about it the other day, so it must be true. Like, I'll be listening so hard, and then I'll think back to that bit   so I can remember it. But by the time I get back to that bit, I've then missed a chunk.   And then when I try to listen to the next bit, I'm thinking that I've just missed a chunk, and oh my god. My brain.   Anyway Well, it's just interesting. It's just interesting that the  

[01:47:22] Unknown:

the confession of the guy who was the the the confession of one of the brothers who was hung for the murder   links in.   Someone who analyzed it afterwards said concluding his account,   it will be seen that mister Edmund Norway,   I. E. The   the ship the the chief officer on the ship, in relating his dream to a shipmate,   observed that the murder could not have been committed on the Saint Columb Road because the house,   going thence to Weybridge was on the right hand side, whereas the house in his dream was on the left.   But, obviously, everything else is far too close to the bone, isn't it? The the pistol being fired twice, not going off, him then being knocked off of his horse and beaten to a pulp and dragged into a ditch.  

Yeah. There you go. It's just just the fact that he was in the same time zone. Yeah. Yeah. Saint Helena Saint Helena is, like, right in the middle of the, I wanna say, Atlantic Ocean. It's well, it's it's down.   If you type in Saint Helena onto Google, it will show you that,   where are we?   Yeah. It's   it's a it's it's   north and south. It's in line with Cornwall, but,   obviously,   you know, it's it's,   I mean, east and west, it's in line with Cornwall, but it's it's a it's a lot lot further south. Let's just put it that way. There's no way, like, a pigeon could have delivered the the could have flown from Cornwall to Saint Helena in that time and whispered it in the guy's ear as he was going to sleep is all I'm saying. Mhmm. I like it. No. I like it.  

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Interesting stuff. There we are.  

[01:48:59] Unknown:

There we are. I need to practice this again. Obviously, it's been You you need to you need to you need to practice the outro. The intro was an awful lot better.   Yeah. The outro seemed a little bit rushed, I have to say. Oh, sorry.   Listen. On on another Cornish note. So   I noticed that the Eden project, world famous Eden project   is axing a whole load of its staff, massive redundancies, all that kind of thing.   What is it at the moment in Cornwall with all the major attractions?   So you've got   last year,   Dairyland   at the end of last year as well. So they're 2 of the biggest attractions in Cornwall gone under. It's not like they don't get any visitors.  

You know?   What is it with all these attractions disappearing in Cornwall at the moment? Seems to be a bit of a trend going on. Are they making are are rich people buying them up and just making way for more housing  

[01:49:58] Unknown:

is what I'm thinking. I don't think they'll close the Eden Project. I think they promote that too much to explain about climax chain climax.  

[01:50:09] Unknown:

Climax change.   What happens is you don't have to worry about it? Oh my dear.  

[01:50:18] Unknown:

Oh my god.   Climate change. Climate change. Yeah. I haven't been to that part of the Eden Project, but the climate bit, I have. Yeah. Yeah. I can't see them. It's got too many big people that are in with all of that.   I'm trying to think of his name now. I've met him. So what are they gonna do? Employ robots instead of tin what Of course they are. That's what they're gonna do because they don't need people on the checkouts.  

[01:50:41] Unknown:

It's all gonna be automated. It's like, you know, I I there's a there's a place near us, and they do mildly pasteurized milk. It's still pasteurized, but   very gently.   And rather than having someone there where you can go, like, man the shop, can go in there 247 and buy your milk   because   there's a vending machine in there that   gives you your milk, supplies your bottles, blah blah blah. And I was in there one day, and this guy was trying to get it to give him give him the right milkshake, and he hadn't given him the right milkshake.   So he was gonna put more money in it. And I'm, oh, this is handy, isn't it? You can't actually talk to someone.  

He said, yeah. He said, a mate of mine services these machines. He said, they're $20 a pop. He said,   lot of money. He said, but then when you think about it, that's someone's wages for the year, and it saves you paying anyone. And this thing will work 247.  

[01:51:32] Unknown:

It's,   see, I've I've realized I think I've realized this for a long time now, and I spoke to my son-in-law about this this morning about we know our council tax, the majority goes on social care. And, you know, I'm not I'm not saying that's a bad thing. Of course, we need social care. But I've realized lately that there's so many people   having supported living and care   that don't really need it.   You know? Maybe a little bit vulnerable, but there's lots of vulnerable people about. And I'm not saying that anybody shouldn't receive benefits and thing and help that they're entitled to. There's been a time in my life when I've depended on benefits,   but it's the people   taking the piss out of the system.  

And I'm looking at all these private houses   that have got clients, that have got support workers 24 hours a day, blah, blah, blah. It's costing a fortune.   Whereas   go back a 100 years or so ago, people tended to stay more with their parents,   but it's I just believe that's where the bulk of our money is in people taking the piss out of the system. And, you know, these people that are getting carers, they smoke 40 fags a day, they   and they could work.   They could work.   And they get a new car, like, every 3 years if they get picked up. Yeah. Mobility. Yeah. Yeah. It's if you know the system. And one of my son's friends, I know they wouldn't be listening to this, but they've got him to go down to a school, and they both drive, but he'll only go to this school if the council will put a bus on out this way.   They know what they're entitled to, and they both drive. They both earn really good money,   and it sickens me.  

And I was thinking today, all of these, like, buildings, the council offices and stuff, they could make that into a massive place   offices   and stuff, they could make that into a massive place for, like, these vulnerable people and have wardens there. And just that's where our money is going. That is where our money is going. And it's just been sickening me, Steve. Thieves and fools. It's thieves and fools that are inhabiting the space in between  

[01:53:39] Unknown:

your money   and the actual delivery point of the service.   There's all these idiots that, well, not idiots. Just vampires, just parasites, just occupying the space in between. You   Yeah. Yeah. We'll provide you this service for this much money, £1,000   a week for a for a room in a crappy care home, all staff on minimum wage, you know, understaffed, blah blah. It's it's just a huge cash cow. It's a massive way of just filtering off money from the public.   Absolutely. I mean, we've both seen it firsthand.  

[01:54:12] Unknown:

Oh, it just,   it, oh, it just makes me mad. Not many things get me mad actually these days, but  

[01:54:18] Unknown:

that got me mad today. Well, it it should get you mad because, you know, $52 a year to put someone in a flipping care home.   You know? And if they own a house, well, sorry. You gotta sell that and pay for that. If you don't own a house, the state will pay for it. Yeah. Either way, it's a massive   transfer of wealth. Ridiculous.   And it's making money out of essentially   the vulnerable.   You know, don't get me wrong.   There is a, you know, it gets to the point.   You know, I've known people. It gets to the point where you can't necessarily care for your mom or your dad at home because their needs are too great, and it's too demanding on your own. You you need a bit of help.   You know?  

But   at the same time,   you know, crikey, $52   a year for a bed and a shit service. Sorry. Excuse my French.   You know,   it's just it's not it's it ain't funny. It's a massive cash cow for these people. No different. It's it's it's a similar cash cow. In fact, probably a worse cash cow than the whole,   speed camera nonsense.   You know? How many lives the speed camera save? Probably none. Because those people that are gonna drive recklessly are gonna drive recklessly.   You know?   But yet, they make 6,000,000 a day. So it's turning into a bit of a rant. Sorry. Well, I no. You're supposed to be doing a rant this week anyway. Come on. Get it fixed.   6000000, 6,000,000 a day. 18 nearly 18,000,000,000   pounds of UK payer tax money a year.  

You know, no wonder when I got my speeding ticket that, you know, I got I got caught for speeding on the Thursday. And by the Saturday morning, I had a bloody letter through the post telling me that I'd been caught for speeding. You know? Because it's a very well funded department. Yeah? Yeah. I was doing 38.   Oh, no. What was I doing? I was doing,   I was doing 35   in a 30.   So that put me   if I'd have been doing 36 or 37,   I wouldn't have got the choice of doing I'd have just had the points and the fine and blah blah. I wouldn't have had a choice of doing this   driver awareness course, which is all that's another £100   for every person that gets caught. And I bet that's not included   in the revenue that they make out of the cameras. So 6,000,000 a day, nearly 18,000,000,000   a year of UK UK   taxpayers' money,   and all the roads I drive on every day are shit.  



[01:56:49] Unknown:

To put it bluntly Where's the money going? Where's the money going? End of rant. Sorry. Well, listen. Next week, when you do your run, I want at the start of every sentence that and where and where and where? Okay? Come on. Maybe I should just start the show. Maybe you should just, like, enrage me. Do do do an enraging topic before you start Actually, we should make it we should make it a thing that the listeners type in   what you should rant about the following week.  

[01:57:19] Unknown:

Oh, crikey.  

[01:57:22] Unknown:

Oh, dear.  

[01:57:24] Unknown:

Yeah. Sometimes I might just burst out laughing. That would be the only problem with that with that scenario.  

[01:57:29] Unknown:

Yeah.  

[01:57:30] Unknown:

Well, it's good to laugh if you could buy it in a bottle. That's what they say, isn't it? Hey. Do you know what? If I could buy laughter in a bottle, I would have stashed a load of it by now.   Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I can't remember the last time I, like, rolled around the floor laughing.  

[01:57:46] Unknown:

Can't remember it.   A real belly laugh.  

[01:57:53] Unknown:

A real belly yeah. Do you know what? I've I've had a few, but I'm not gonna repeat them on on radio.  

[01:58:00] Unknown:

Probably best not to.   Oh, dear.  

[01:58:05] Unknown:

So so, we're we're coming up close to the end, aren't we, my lovely? Oh, what have you who what have you got lined up for us next week?  

[01:58:12] Unknown:

Oh, I thought that was your department.  

[01:58:16] Unknown:

No. I meant for your show. Oh, alright. For your for what have you got lined us for up for us on the Shelley Tasker,   beginning of the Shelley Tasker show next week? Have we got any exciting guests? That  

[01:58:28] Unknown:

is very a very big secret at the moment.   Oh. Okay. Okay? Yeah. That means, dear listeners, that I haven't got anyone   yet. But   You weren't supposed to divulge that. It doesn't matter. It's hard to get on guests. Secret anymore. I haven't got around to it. Life is busy.   Life is busy. But, no, it it will be great. Howard's gonna come on at some point.  

[01:58:52] Unknown:

I don't know. What? I know. You just wanna talk to Howard. Maybe at some point stay on for the hour or 2 or whether we could just get together for a chat slot because he loves his q and on stuff. Yeah. Yeah. And I and I and I obviously, I I I thought it would be relevant with everything going   on. Yeah. Yeah. I think it's up I think it's a a version,   I think it's a version, a modern day version of what was Operation Trust   in the Soviet Union after the Bolshevik takeover,   you know, or after enduring.  

[01:59:22] Unknown:

And on that note, listeners, we're gonna go.   It's very deep maleficous.  

[01:59:30] Unknown:

Right. We have got to play the outro music as well. Oh, Oh, god. That was really rude of me. Now carry on. We'll overrun. No. No. No. Do you know what? It'd be lovely to have a chat with him. It would. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Thanks for having me back, and and let's catch up for some more Thanks for having me back. For the show next week. Thanks for letting me get out of the  

[01:59:46] Unknown:

closet. Right. Listeners, we'll be back the same time next week, and I'll be back at 7 o'clock with the Shelley Tasker Show by myself and then part 2 with the awesome Malefika Scott. Have a great week, everybody.