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Broadcasts live every Wednesday at 7:00p.m. uk time on Radio Soapbox: http://radiosoapbox.com

In this episode of the Shelley Tasker Show, Shelley welcomes Louise Tibbetts, a candidate standing in the local elections for the Porthtowan area under the Reform UK party. They discuss Louise's experiences on the campaign trail, the economic challenges facing Cornwall, and the broader implications of these issues across the UK. Louise shares her insights into the spiritual and economic struggles of the local community, highlighting the impact of unemployment and the decline of local industries. The conversation also touches on the importance of finding purpose and fulfillment in one's work and life.

Later, the discussion shifts to the topic of Easter and spirituality. Louise, who has studied theology, shares her thoughts on the humanity of Jesus and the philosophical complexities of religious beliefs. The conversation delves into personal spiritual experiences, the nature of faith, and the diverse ways people connect with the divine. The episode concludes with a reflection on the importance of community and the value of genuine friendships, as well as a brief discussion on the geopolitical implications of the Balfour Declaration and its historical context.

[00:00:59] Unknown:

Good evening ladies and gentlemen and welcome to the Shelley Tasker Show coming live out of RadioSoapbox.com.   It's good to have your company.   I'm also streaming live on Rumble. Just find me typing Shelley Tasker.   And don't forget to hit the like and subscribe button.   Anyway,   today's date is Wednesday April.   Happy hump day everybody.   And I've got a wonderful guest this evening.   She is   a candidate   standing in the local elections   for the Porth Town area,   under reform. And we had a brief chat on women's hour   this Sunday gone. Anyway, we're gonna be getting into a little bit of a chat about Easter.   So let me bring the wonderful Louise Tibbets on the line.  

Good evening, miss Louise Tibbets. Let me just unmute you.   I think you'll have to unmute yourself lovely.  

[00:02:02] Unknown:

I've I've unmuted myself. There you are. I feel much better now. Thank you. Good evening Louise. How are you doing?   I'm battling on.   I started   legal team today around 12:15.   It's now   just turned 07:00   so   I rushed home around   06:30,   quickly grabbed myself a cup of tea and I I ran out again because if I stay at home I'll have pets and people   just walking in through the door and shouting   mum where are you and things like this so   it was better to come out and sit in the car. So   yeah and I've had I've been to the most   how many what sort of people listen to this this program Shelly? How far does it go?  



[00:02:51] Unknown:

It goes   all over the place. To The States? Yes it goes to The States. Over the world, The States?  

[00:02:57] Unknown:

Yeah. Okay.   For those who don't know, actually Shelley did have a good stab at the name.   Nearly everywhere in Cornwall begins with a P or A T   So we've got loads of places called Perrin something so   I'm actually standing in the Perrinpaugh   Electoral   Division,   and it includes   some of the most beautiful countryside   and seaside   in this beautiful county   and today I found some absolutely wonderful places and wonderful villages.   And I had more really lovely   receptions from people.   They   there were people   you know generally when you're dropping off a leaflet you sort of try and pretend like   it's not really you, you're just doing this with somebody else and run.  

So I think that's what most people   like to do but I'm   not getting bolder   so if I see somebody at the front of the house I go and talk to them and say hi I'm standing in the election   and then they say they look at you kind of suspiciously and they go who are you standing for?   They probably look at me and assume I'm a Labour person because I'm wearing I I have two personas. I have my office girl and I have my hippie chick. So I was a bit tippy chick today or 30 chick so,   but when I say Reform UK they they, they relax, they smile,   they take a leaflet.  

I've had a couple of people say to me, quite honestly they could put a stuffed doll in and I'd still vote for them because the others are so awful. So   you know it's kind of,   qualified praise.  

[00:04:40] Unknown:

So, but yeah. That's for sure.  

[00:04:44] Unknown:

Well,   I mean who couldn't really be happy about what they're doing   unless you're a net zero zealot I suppose.   I mean they   I spoke to   my first stop as I left the village   I called in somewhere I've never called in before,   it's the caravan site because this is a big holiday place   and the chap who owns the site with their working   near the entrance to their offices.   So I bravely went up to him to speak and he said and we had a long conversation and he said this year he said we can't afford   to employ anyone.   We're having to do all the maintenance and all the bookings and the office work ourselves   and we're still struggling to stay afloat.  

And it so happens my son's out of work at the moment   and he's struggling to keep his chin up.   He's a very capable lad who,   he was working in a sawmills   a few months ago up until Christmas   and, Truro Sawmills and   there were rumors that the business was going to close down. He'd just got his foot in the door and he was showing them just what a hard worker he is and how capable and how quickly he learns   how to run all the machines and you know he would have been in a management job within six months if it had kept going but the business closed down at Christmas   and there were people there who there was a large   about 15 employees 15 to 20 employees so they're all out of work.  

How   sad.  

[00:06:27] Unknown:

And I mean in Cornwall I'm sorry. That's Yeah. In Cornwall, there's just not many openings neither is there. Not for things Well, it  

[00:06:37] Unknown:

even when,   I mean under normal circumstances it's difficult but he's never struggled   to pick up a job before and now he's applying all day long,   nobody's getting back to him, they're just contacting him   and   this is the situation   probably throughout the whole of The UK   and it nobody talks about it much public. You don't hear it in as a headline in the news do you?   I think they're keeping this quiet,   I think they're keeping this real collapse economy quiet, it's not on an Easter theme   so apologies,   we will move on to Easter but just to say   that there are indicators if you look around that things in this country   are not well and as I walk around and visit the houses   I see places that are empty and falling apart,   I see farms that have closed down, I see empty farm houses in disrepair,   I see   it looks like bungalows that old people have lived in and obviously they've gone off to a home or they've passed away and they've just come in   to to look after the place. It's calling to back and go in so yeah we   these these are hard times   in many ways.  



[00:07:57] Unknown:

Yeah and that's what's spurring you on doing your bits And   good on you. Good on you. I was only at a lady's house this afternoon and, we didn't have a chance to get onto who she was gonna vote for, but she was panicking because she's a postal voter. And she says, I haven't voted yet. I said, it's alright. You've got a few weeks yet. She's like, yeah, but I've gotta do it by post.   But I didn't get time to sort of say, who are you voting for? Blah blah blah. But,   yeah. Good on you, Louise.   And I hope your son finds something soon.   And thing is, there are jobs out there, but when you've got a skill like that and stuff, it's something   you know, he could probably go to McDonald's and get a job.  



[00:08:38] Unknown:

But that's not he could do care work. Even those. Care jobs. Even oh, he would definitely be no good at care work. I know that. Definitely. It does take a certain time. I wouldn't let him.   It does. It does. He'd be no good at that.   But he has applied for absolutely everything going,   everything he's seen advertised.   So anyway that's what it's like   and at least in this part of The UK and I can see the changes, I can   you know I like to see what's actually happening in the world around me.   You know make observations   because as we know whatever you hear reported in the news   can be a distraction.  



[00:09:22] Unknown:

Massively. Massively. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh. Yeah. Well, fingers crossed he finds something soon.   So apart from that, there's there's a lot to you that people don't know.   And not that I'm about to share it all, because I don't know neither. I just know that we always have great conversations.   And I was quite surprised the other day when our dear joint mutual friend, Graham, said, you wanna speak to Louise? And I was like, what about religion and stuff? He's like, oh god. Yeah. Speak to Louise. And I was like, okay.  

[00:09:54] Unknown:

And That was sweet of him. Yeah. Yeah.  

[00:09:57] Unknown:

But so tonight, we said we'd get hit on the topic of Easter,   and you said that at one point, you've written a story about Easter.  

[00:10:06] Unknown:

Okay. Yeah. Sure.   I'll just   quickly explain   that I have actually   studied theology.  

[00:10:16] Unknown:

Ah, right. Okay.  

[00:10:19] Unknown:

That sounds good. And it's a subject that Yeah. It's a subject I love. I love the big questions. I love,   I think there's like this question of,   you know, we're connected to an unseen world.   And   sometimes   we we can't sometimes we might see with our eyes   that unseen world,   sometimes it will come crashing in on earth, sometimes   it's just a distant sense   and trying to map   what we   what I would say feel in our spirit   with   you know religious practices and customs trying to reconcile those two   is quite a big job   You know?   So anyway and when I share in churches   I have to   I wrote this story   from the point of view of a biblical scholar.  

But I'm talking to people   who   take the Bible at face value, surface value. They're not interested   in who wrote it and why and   the themes and the background and the the world before the text, the world behind the text, the world in front of the text,   the world inside the head of the reader, these these kind of questions that you study when you study theology,   they just say well it's God's word, God said it, that's you know that that's the end of the question.   I believe it, God said it, I believe it, that settles it, that's the   that's the line. So I'm talking to those kinds of people   so I have to   this is something I wrote to try and convey to them the humanity of Jesus because   one of the core doctrines of Jesus is that Jesus is fully man   and fully God.  

That's   and and but then we think well God is this all powerful person up in the sky sitting on a throne so how can that be?   And   the philosophical complications and intricacies of that whole situation.   I was trying to resolve this one Sunday   for my heroes.   So they had no idea what kind of a task I was taking on and what the work and the thought that went into this piece of writing.   So here we go.   Called One Sunday   and if I sound a bit nasal I apologize.   Anyway   one   one Sunday   the afternoon sun started to pierce the dank mountain nest of early spring as we rounded the first bend of the Mount Of Olives.   I reach forward and gently stroke the neck fur of the young animal bearing me down into the Kidron Valley   towards the walled city of Jerusalem.  

Understandably,   I had been a little concerned about attempting to mount an unbroken colt donkey.   But as soon as I touched her muzzle and whispered into her ear, she had become docile with the seasoned country mare.   I wondered if I would see Lazarus, Mary and Martha again.   They said they would join us later in the city but I could only guess at the details of what lay ahead.   When I left them, Mary had looked so sad as she said goodbye.   Dear wise Mary, she could see into every situation in a way my closest companions could not. She   knew that to be followed by crowds in the rural North was one thing.  

But the level of interest and curiosity   my ministry was now attracting close to the sentence of power.   Centres of power was quite another.   People came to the house every day asking when the rabbi would be back.   I felt the glory and power of the father stir in my heart again as I contemplated   Jerusalem   and the history of my ancestors.   How had a people entrusted with so much revelation   fallen so far into unbelief and empty religion?   Now here they were.   Servile and broken under the heel of a merciless pagan tyrant   who had no love or care for man or God.  

It was abhorrent.   The Romans were experts at two things,   perversion and killing and they revelled in both.   They owned the bodies of their servants both young and old and did what they liked with them.   Now as I rounded the next bend of the road and the city appeared before me, I felt a new rush of sadness and started to yearn in earnest   over the abject humiliation   of my people.   And by association,   our God.   As these thoughts filled my mind, the angels who guarded the city, whose presence I could sense in my heart, began to appear before my eyes.   They too looked downcast,   somber   and I think I could see one gently weeping.  

The light from their presence was just enough to prevent the darkness   from completely engulfing their ancient city.   My reverie was broken by a cry and I looked up.   Someone shouted,   Hosanna to the son of David.   Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord.   A crowd had gathered around me. My followers and others who had been with us in Bethany.   They were starting to wave palm leaves.   Someone threw their cloak down in front of the donkey.   I could not help but smile at this gesture of welcoming tribute.   But at the same time   what the father had shown me through words and visions   began to fall into place.  

I brushed away the dark realization   and decided for now to appreciate   what was beautiful in this moment.   The sun was now shining brightly and people were joyful.   Clearly I was not a conquering thing, at least not in the way they were thinking   or my mount would have been a lot grander   but in time they would understand.   That's   the  

[00:16:41] Unknown:

that's where it finishes. Get your brain going isn't it?  

[00:16:45] Unknown:

There was a huge amount I had to   reconcile because the gospel of John   talks about Jesus going to Jerusalem on several occasions   three or four times.   And John,   some scholars believe it's more accurate.   It's more   historically accurate,   which would   right now I can envision anyone who   takes the Bible at face value   and doesn't   believe in textual criticism having a heart attack can we say that?   But   the Gospel of Mark   is I took that as my   my premise because in the Gospel of Mark   which some people think may have been written to be a performed piece   and   the the if you have you heard of the passion plays   or the passion play? No.  

There's a tradition   around Easter   I I think   I don't know when they started this but it goes back a long way   where   Christians would   recite the whole read or perform the whole of the gospel of Mark in one session   and it's called the Passion Play.   And   if you read when you read Mark with that understanding   you can see how the   the momentum is building   and so the whole gospel it starts off   what does it start off? It starts off very in a very humble quiet way with Jesus in   the small village by Galilee   and then he gathers crowds and he becomes more and more popular   and more well known and there's more pressure   for him to be seen and people   hunt him down.  

And then   he he he arrives at Jerusalem   and in Mark he first goes in to look around the city.   So that's what happens in the passage after the bit I've just written. He goes looks around the city then he goes back   now I'm talking   from memory here without checking I think he goes back stays outside the city and then comes in the next day and that's when he overturns   the temple   and   he shows his   condemnation   of the whole temple system   because it did obviously the the priests had   colluded   with Roman authorities   as we know it was very corrupt   and   they were made   they were   taking as much money as they could off the people   and it had nothing to do   with   with God or faith or religion and they weren't   doing anything to help the people.  

They weren't giving the people   any   understanding, they weren't bringing them teaching that would help them, they weren't bringing them healing,   It had just become an empty an empty fast so   and then obviously you go on to the crucifixion scene, the last supper and the crucifixion scene.   Wow. But I do love I love all the gospels, I love all the gospels in their own way.   The way I see it is that if you place an object in the middle of a room and you have people standing around the outside,   everyone sees a different facet of that object. I see   no problem   with saying well you know they report it this way, this person reports it that way and   they are   the more you study them the more you realize that they're very sophisticated works of theology.  

The Jews do their theology   through stories   which is the most powerful and effective way   to do theology. And when God speaks to me he often speaks to me   through stories.   So many people talk about getting visions   and he sometimes when God speaks to me he reminds me of an incident.   I'll tell you a little anecdote to show you.   Is shall I carry on talking? Yeah yeah you're doing great. Yeah if it's all it's interesting. Okay.   So I had some friends who were going to be missionaries in Africa.   And they said we'd like everyone to come over and pray for us.   So I went to this prayer meeting and then as I was there   and people were praying   I suddenly had this memory of when I went to university.  

And I'd gone there. I remembered that feeling I had of excitement   and thrill.   I know I was leaving home, I was going to be free at long last to do my own thing.   When I was growing up I had to do a lot of housework,   I had a lot of responsibility   and so to to leave home was actually   it meant more to me than most people.   And   anyway when I got there   I actually found   that it was much harder   than I expected. I found it hard to find people   that I could feel comfortable with. I found it hard to find my tribe and my crowd.   And   and then I realized that God was telling me that this was the situation   that this couple were going to be in. So I said to them, I said you're full of excitement right now and you're really looking forward to the future, the new start   and you know you can't wait   to get going but this is just a word of warning to be careful who you trust.  

So as you go out just always double check whoever you're   putting a reliance on to   just   keep eyes in the back of your head.   So about, oh it must have been about a year later, I would have forgotten this, a year later and I saw them   and they said that they'd actually gone to Nigeria.   The lady was a nurse   and her husband was a preacher. He was a wonderful man.   Very gifted.   And   they said that   had these   people working with them   who   they   they later found were   were not what they seemed   so they'd been betrayed.   And they said how accurate, I'm not saying this to big me up, I'm saying it to say how   you know God speaks to people in different ways and I don't see the point in a   walk where you don't experience an actual relationship and the conversation   with the one that,   you know,   with the one that you're following.  

Let's put it like that. I think that,   if somebody doesn't talk to you then that   you can't believe they love you, can you? Somebody who loves you will talk to you.  

[00:23:55] Unknown:

So do you regularly feel that you get this?  

[00:23:59] Unknown:

It kind of,   sense or impressions.   Sometimes it happens when I'm not expecting it at all.   And then it can be something really big and then I think if only I'd have known. I'd have paid more attention.   If I'd have realized   the significance of that moment.   I think that   as I've gone on in my life, I mean I was a Christian, I became a Christian when I was 15   and for many years   I was frustrated and angry when people said oh God spoke to me about this and God spoke to me about that and I just thought well why does he never speak to me?   Why why why do I get ignored?  

I went through   I met some very wonderful people and   they took me through some inner healing   and then after that I found that I started to   first of all it was small things.   Then more and more generally   the more time you spend in God's presence the more you hear him.   So I think if I was to   go off and spend a day in a retreat which I would really love to do   I know I would hear something you know. I would love to do that so much.   And it's   it's   exciting.   It's very exciting. I've had dreams.   I've had a situation where   I had a dream that this bloke was bothering me. It was quite long and involved the dream, the whole history of everything that was going on.  

I woke up in the morning and thought that was a weird dream.   I went to meet a friend, we were meeting for coffee   and then she started to tell me about somebody's husband who'd started turning up at her house. So as she started to talk I said oh and this happened and he did this and this happened and she went yeah how do you know?   And the whole thing   I'd I'd   experienced that   I was able to tell her what she wanted to tell me because God had already shown me.   But again he did it as if I as if it was first person.   So   and I didn't really realise   that it was about somebody else until she started to talk.  



[00:26:24] Unknown:

I've had encounters several encounters like that, and I wouldn't have said, but then I suppose, you know, you're a Christian.   I'd like to think I'm Christian, but for lots of my beliefs,   I'm apparently with the devil.   So someone tells me. Oh, I,  

[00:26:40] Unknown:

oh dear. Because  

[00:26:41] Unknown:

I like so many different   parts of it. I do believe there's something. I do believe in an energy   from a young age.   I I've experienced   like, you could say psychic moments. I've seen things happen   and then they've happened. Is that God talking to me?   You know, I can remember being about,   10 years old, riding my horse down a lane. And and there was a hedge that we used to always jump. And then I saw a vision in my mind of this hedge with a massive piece of, like, crumbled metal stuck underneath it. So if we jumped it, the horses would have got hurt. But sure enough, we got there,   and that piece of metal was under it. That's one that I really recall, but I've had lots of moments like that.  

And   I wonder if it's just how we think things differently. Like, I would often think, well, spirit's speaking to me. Because I believe in the spirit world. I'm probably what you'd say a Christian spiritualist.   Is there such a thing? There seems to be so many,   you know, the evangelist Christians, the   orthodox   Christians.   It's quite confusing, isn't it?  

[00:27:48] Unknown:

Well, for one thing the people who awake I believe they are people with a spiritual sensitivity.   I knew a lady who was very powerful   with   visions and words of knowledge   and she said she had that even before she became a Christian.   So I think some people are just born   or for whatever reason it can be your   your bloodline, your history,   your family.   I think some people are more aware   of the spirit world than others.   Now ultimately   I mean Jesus told a lot of interesting   narratives   about   people who think that they are   they've got a ticket to heaven.  

They're the ones that can be disappointed   and the ones that   there's a good story which you should read at the end of Matthew   where   he talks about the sheep and the goats, the separating of the sheep and goats.   I I don't think I would like to try remember the whole one from memory but anyone anyone who knows the Bible will know it. But there is I think there's a much simpler story   where Jesus talks about   two men in the temple.   And he said there was a Pharisee at the front.   And he's   praying and he says to God you know I tithe.   The tenth of all I have.  

I follow all the laws and customs.   So he told God how righteous he is   and then he said there was a man at the back of the temple   who couldn't lift his eyes to heaven and he said 'Lord have mercy on me a sinner'   and he said the one   who couldn't lift his eyes to heaven, he left the temple justified   and the other one did not hide favour in God's eyes.   So I think you, I, I, I'm moreover,   Jesus says, judge not lest you be judged.   So it's not our role to judge people.   I believe we have to judge our. One of the hardest  

[00:30:06] Unknown:

principles, I think, of being a Christian or not even just a Christian, but a good person   not to judge those people.   And it's hard because I find myself judging people, and I think, oh, Shelley, that's really good.  

[00:30:21] Unknown:

Our world is very judgmental.   I mean especially if you're in current affairs.   The news, the newspapers are always condemning people.   This person's wicked, that person's wicked. I mean I fall into it too I must admit. I can I think we should say that attitudes are wicked,   actions are wicked,   but   in that   parable   about judge not left or when Jesus talks about the teaching, he says concentrate   on the moat,   the dust in your own eyes?   Don't worry about what other people are doing.   And I think in the end   our   what's important is the quality of life. So Jesus came to give life and life more abundantly.   So   are are you experiencing   life and life more abundantly?  

And if you're not   then I think it's good to seek   to say God please show me, lead me to that place   where my life can be more abundant.   I forgot, I've lost my thread now. It must be an age thing. But there's no what what I'm saying is it it's not so much about will I go to heaven?   It's   are you walking   in fellowship with God now?   Is your life   fulfilling?   Do you feel that   you're   living a life of purpose   and fulfillment?   Even if it's a tough life,  

[00:31:54] Unknown:

is it a fulfilling life? See, I don't know about being biblical, but you could be a life coach, Louise, as well.   But they're always Thank you very much. Fundamental questions, aren't they, about somebody's purpose   in life?   Because I think we've all got a purpose. And if I'm not thriving towards   something,   I don't know. I'm a bit up in arms with work. My job ended in December   and actually,   I liked the idea of like, you know, I'm gonna do a bit of agency work, a bit of photography and stuff and see how it goes. And it, and it's been fine.   And then a few weeks ago, I really realized that actually that job that I had,   I loved. And it's only because the home closed that I stopped it. I don't think you'd ever hear me come home from work and say, oh, what a bad day or dread going to work   because I felt fulfilled. I was giving back.  

And That's a and it's important, isn't it? Because I don't feel   I don't know. It's not just the team of people. And I wonder if I'll ever meet residents like that again. I'm sure in time I will. But today, a job popped up,   for Cambourne for doing that job. And I was like, right, I'm gonna hit the go for it button because actually,   even though I can make the money picking up these shifts here and there,   I'm not serving a purpose   because I felt that with the elderly people, you build up relationships,   you bring them out of their day and supported living and stuff. And it's a bit more frustrating as an agency worker because you haven't got the   time to put in on someone's life and say, hang on. This could do with do you know what I mean? You're in there. You might not see that person again for a couple of months.  

So I've made that decision today, and it's like, I love singing. Well, once a week, I used to sing to the elderly. I used to sing all the old songs and stuff like that. I love singing, and it was like bringing everything into one.   So it's like, yeah, you can be happy, make the money, but like you say, are you are you fulfilled?   It's not just about work. I'll say it's, are you fulfilled   in other areas of your life?  

[00:33:56] Unknown:

Yeah and I think that,   I mean there   the money is a side issue for you isn't it really? I mean we all need money to live, God knows that we need money to live, but I think that to have work that fulfills is the greatest blessing of all.   And I often look at people who are doing a job they hate. And you can tell can't you? And they might be earning,   yeah and they might be earning a lot of money.   But I think it's   I mean I don't   earn much   and   but like you I do get a lot of reward   from what I do.   And and that's the most important thing. I think when you're,   you know that you're using the skills you have. If you're happy in your work, that's a good sign. You're serving. I show you. You're serving as well. Yeah.  

Yeah. And those people, if they didn't have you, they might have somebody who didn't really care.   And the difference you make I mean there again that does make me feel you should read the parable of the sheep and the goat. You really should.  

[00:35:05] Unknown:

I'll write it down because I don't know my bible.  

[00:35:09] Unknown:

I'll I'll send it I'll send it to you because  

[00:35:12] Unknown:

I won't remember it. But it's one that Because of my dodgy Yeah it's one  

[00:35:17] Unknown:

it's one that people don't like to talk about too much.   Christian churchy Christians don't like to talk about too much.   Yeah   so   and I mean we   I'll let you ask the question.   No. I'm just I'll let you ask the question. I haven't heard you sing yet. I haven't heard you sing yet. I'd love to hear you sing. Well well, Louise, you'll have to come one Friday afternoon when I sing to the oldies.   I'd like it. I'd love to. I'd really love to. Oh, yeah. Well, I'll let you know. But,  

[00:35:50] Unknown:

yeah. Yeah. Good. That's what I just loved   doing. And I think I'm so always in the middle. You see, I like the flexibility of being able to pick as and when I work,   but then I also like a bit of routine and I just think I'm not serving, I'm not giving,   and I need to do that to feel good about myself.   So  

[00:36:08] Unknown:

And also I think singing is a spiritual thing. I think when you're singing, you're singing from your spirit when you're really singing. So   I think in that way   yeah that possibly opens up your   connection to the spiritual   I would think and to God and that's probably why   you   get warnings   about possible hazards like you said that   and I have heard other people   who,   like I said, who are spiritually sensitive,   not necessarily Christian.   But then when they became Christian, whatever gift they had became very much enhanced.   But then again, I don't even like they become Christian. I mean, what does that mean? I don't even know, really. Become more enlightened  

[00:36:58] Unknown:

on a path.   I don't know because. You see some people. Sorry carry on.  

[00:37:05] Unknown:

Some people will say you say the prayer.   Which is   you know,   I accept you Lord Jesus as my saviour,   confess my sins and I turn from my sins and you're my saviour. That's what some people would say.   For me   it was all intuitive.   I walked into a church   and   there was a lot of singing going on, like you, I   I as far as I was concerned I was a Christian.   You know I had no issues with the Bible or church or anything like that and I joined did this singing, this spiritual singing,   and   the lady at the front said if you were the only person   in the world Jesus would have died for you.  

And that absolutely blew me apart. I heard it said several times since then   but it sunk into me, those words sunk into me because   I'd grown up with a sense of   not being wanted,   a very clear sense of,   you know, I had to get on and live in this world without being loved.   That was,   what I, the message I got as a child which is a harsh, it was really really tough one and   at that point   it was   it was like somebody had   connected me to the main, the the electric main.   It was such a power and light that went through me.   Now   was that becoming a Christian? All I had   was a sense that something had switched on inside of me   and it was very very powerful and it wasn't that different from,   the story that David Ick told   tells   about going to somewhere in South America and having a similar experience in the middle of a solar circle.  

Yeah?   It was pretty much what he said was pretty much that experience.   And I'm happy to   talk about these issues and question   You know, it's all so mysterious.  

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It is. And that's the thing, isn't it? And I think I've delved into so many aspects of, like,   spirituality,   the the spiritualist churches,   mediumships,   seances,   spirit boards. I've had a little dabble in it. Oh, not through what I thought was wickedness   at all through love.   And this is where the lady, one of the churches where I go to with my granddaughter,   I went and had a self healing   bath a few weeks ago. Oh. And it totally offended me.   But she believed Yeah. That's the devil's work.  

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I mean,   I  

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It's really hard, isn't it? Because if something makes you feel good, how can you say that's   the devil's work? And I think the problem is   we've got the the set rules that you're supposed to, like, believe in the bible and this is this and this is that. But we've come on so far or have we come on so far that actually we're now going back to old ways like   spiritual stuff,   natural healing,   spiritual healing,  

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I mean I wouldn't   I've been to a a Buddhist   meeting on the top of the   Holy Mountain in Japan.   And I would say   it it did have like, quite an   monastery   in Japan.   My son was in Japan, I went to visit him and there's this Holy Mountain and actually the monks are making a lot of money, I think they've got a really good business model there because it was £100 a night, you had to pay some cash upfront. But   you stayed in a typical Japanese home which absolutely stank of dry rot but it was very pretty typical Japanese place in the in this village   and   they had all these shrines and temples everywhere.  

Now   and then you had the option of getting up at 06:00 in the morning to join the monks for service.   Now I went to this service,   I wouldn't have opened my spirit to it if you see what I mean. I was just there observing   and seeing what I sensed in that place and I did sense   like a very slow   it's like you know if you're next to some loud speakers and they're playing a very very low note   That was what I sensed.   So   I wouldn't   it wasn't   it wasn't doing anything for me. Let's put it like that. It's fine. I mean it was as spiritual as many Anglican churches. If you go to many   what I would call dead Anglican churches on a Sunday   and you go through the service and it kind of   you know it's quite nice they say some nice words and I think if if they're reading the bible you can always learn something   from the passages quoted.  

If the person is an awful preacher   you can at least argue with them in your head   about what they're saying   and then concentrate, practice some spiritual, some Christian forgiveness   for the fact that they've just wound you up to no end.   So there's all sorts of things to be taken away from the service but not necessarily   it's not really hit you   in the center of your spirit.   It's not lifted you up.   It's not brought joy. It's not released. It's not brought an extra level of release.   So  

[00:43:03] Unknown:

I don't know if that's the word ended up being rather tedious story but No it's not. It's not. I I get it. It's yeah. You would think though that even it was their their religious that you might have felt some sort of spiritual element.   Because this is where I think There was nothing there that made me  

[00:43:20] Unknown:

there was nothing there that made me feel I was missing something. Right.   I thought that whatever I already had,   I had whatever   my spirituality was at the moment   I had more that there was nothing they could add to it   and but some of them were very sweet lovely people and as I said it wasn't my place to judge them. I think that I had this theory that when God   Jesus said that only those can come to me who the Father draws.   So some people will send   being drawn.   They'll be drawn they'll be drawn to Jesus.   And I know that   some Muslims   God has specifically   drawn them to Jesus.  

And   so   I've lost I kind of lost my thread there where I was going.   So you I think we we have to respond to whatever we've been guided to.   Yeah?   Some kinds of religion might do people for a while so I think I'll talk about Islam. So I know that when they've come to Christianity from Islam   they've fully embraced it because they found things there that they didn't find in Islam. But if you're in a very   poor kind of Christianity   then there's not really any difference. Religion is religion.   So,   I  

[00:44:55] Unknown:

How how do you feel Louise with like all of the way well, the way that down here in Cornwall, we now have mosques and stuff. I know it's not just here. It's across the county. Mosques. Yeah.   But, you know, as a I think I'm country, surely, you know, I mean,   Christianity is the main thing, isn't it, really? Well it used to be, it's not now. Well,  

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I think   the reason why we have democracy and why people want to come and live in The UK   is because   our laws   are founded on the Bible   and founded on Christian teaching.   And   this is   this is the proof of the pudding.   You know, where do you want to live? Would you like to live in an Islamic country?   I don't know anyone who would   think that would   be an improvement on where we are now.   Do you want to see women stoned,   predatory, or do you want to see young girls married off to old men? Do you want to see physical punishment? Do you want to see people have their hands cut off stealing? But do you think they should have the right to practice their religion in our country and almost like  

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take over?  

[00:46:07] Unknown:

No.   No. I think they can,   if I think it has to be the same that if we went to if Christians go to a Muslim country,   they can practice it quietly in their own homes.   But no way would an Islamic country make room for Christianity.   And I think we have to be firm about that   because   the the Muslims do not recognize,   textual criticism. There's no   they're rigid in their reading of the Quran.   I mean there are different obviously there's different,   kinds of Islam   but   generally   if if you let them have a foothold they will take over if they have enough numbers   because that is the fulfillment of Islam. Islam means submission.  

So they want us all to submit to Allah.   That is the natural conclusion. That is the drive. That's the,   and there's no   trying to find the right word. There's no negotiation.   There's no   tempering   of of that objective. Their objective   is to   turn The UK   into an Islamic   state. And there will be lovely Muslims. There will be people who actually   they're Muslim in name only and it's their culture,   it's what   keeps their   their   social fabric   together,   keeps their families together. It's something that it's a it's a culture, it's an identity.   But I think if they live here they have to respect and I think if we don't defend   the core   of our   constitution, the core of our laws. This is where things went wrong with COVID as I was trying to say the other day.  

Our own   heads of state   have become so friendly   with the Chinese authorities. I wrongly said John Farrar, I meant   Jeremy   Farrar who's the director of the Wellcome Trust   and then he went to work he became the chief scientist in the WHO.   Now he was also the director   of   a biological sciences lab in Ho Chi Minh   City. Now because   there was this idea that if we opened up ourselves to China and traded with China   that   they would become democratically minded,   but instead what's happened   is that the influence of China and we've got China and we've got Islam   both of which   undermine   our fundamental   Christian values.  

The values that our laws are built on and   this is   this will be the end of us. It will destroy.   I often say to people the point about Christianity   is that each human   has infinite worth.   Like I said to you earlier,   if there was only one person   that Jesus's death would have saved,   because his death was the   undoing,   was the   paid the price   of   the the consequences of our sin.   No   person.   I don't think I don't think there's that appears in any other faith that you can be completely forgiven.   That you can be made clean and new as a baby.   Through   God's gift to you. God makes you clean.  

And it's as if you never did anything wrong. And then he can keep you in that state of purity.   No other religion offers that.   And Jesus Jesus's death like I said he would have died for just if there was just one person   that could be saved.   And that places infinite value on each human life   so that the underscoring   value   of true Christianity   that each person   has infinite worth and God views that person   as a as a son or a potential son or daughter that he wants to call back to himself.   And and that is why we believe in democracy and that's why we believe that you're not guilty   until   you don't have to prove your innocence. People have other people have to prove your guilt.  



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Well, I didn't think it would get this deep tonight, Louise.   I love it. It's a whole new site to you. Why have we never talked about this before? But I suppose,   meetings and stuff is not really the time, is it?  

[00:51:04] Unknown:

Graham wanted to talk about the last film we saw. That's why we never had this conversation.   He likes his films. I like he said, did you see that film? No Graham I don't have a TV,   I don't watch films, I can't watch films anymore,   I can't do it Graham and he says well okay well this happened and that happened, all right okay bless him.  

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They are just lovely, those two. Wonderful couple.  

[00:51:31] Unknown:

Jules is a living saint.   She is a living saint. She has I mean that   is Christianity in action to me.   She's so hospitable.   She's had so many people and that and that made me feel so guilty at first because I was like well surely you expect to come over to my house and you know come over and me cook you a meal and all this sort of thing and it was just like no she's just happy   for people to come in and make themselves at home and she's always got oh you like your tea like this don't you? I've got your special mug.   She's so mothering   and   she is and   she never changes she's constantly patient and long suffering   and   I I know   I see her sort of doing all this   you know so it's amazing I was thinking today but   I've seen her lay on parties and the food   that she's laid on for people and it's absolutely gorgeous   and again she doesn't expect anything back for it and if you try and   treat   her or   you know give her something to show your appreciation it's like well what did you do that for?  

Well   because you're always giving to me,   you give   to me to the point I feel embarrassed.  

[00:52:50] Unknown:

When we make road trips to, like, places for a meeting or something, like, she always brings a little bag of hula hoops, chocolate biscuits, little cartons of orange squash and everything. It's like,   oh, I love it. You're like my second mum. Yeah. She's lush. He's lush as well. Yeah. I call them mum sometimes. And,  

[00:53:09] Unknown:

actually, last time I went over there, I actually became quite tearful   because we'd had this deep conversation   out on the top of the hill there, their beautiful place overlooking both sides of the coast, the peninsula.   We could actually see it on this day because there was good weather   and   they they get through very rough weather up there.   And we were there chatting   and I said oh I've just got to pop back to my car for a minute and as I walked towards the house I found a tear come to my eye because I thought I really feel at home here.   I feel I'm really with genuine friends.  



[00:53:47] Unknown:

Yeah. And I I think I've said it a lot of times over the last few years. It took all of the whole pandemic   to find my tribe, my people,   and it's wonderful, really.   When you can say, you know, we go what we go out with Jules and Graham once every six weeks or so, and we just pick up where we left off. And,   it's lovely.   Yeah. They're just Yeah. Amazing people. Yeah.   And so Yeah. They are. And, you know, the so called Facebook friends and stuff like that. But people I've got to know over the last five years, it's been pretty   awesome. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So how long are you coming? Did you did you have an intention to take theology further   then?  



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I would have loved to.   Oh, that's another   really long story which we'll save.  

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Well We've got five minutes left.  

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Okay I was   going through a bit of a spiritual revival within myself. I was living near Totnes at the time so that was about twenty five years ago.   Really amazing wonderful things were happening in my life   and it was something else going through on my own it wasn't anything outside of me it was   I was really   that's when I really started to get a lot of   messages you know dreams for people and this sort of thing   and they started   because it's very hippie and alternative   I started getting people turning at my door   asking for   for guidance   which was a bit   in you know that was overwhelming.  

For somebody who'd been a spiritual fatigue loft   most of my life and I I was that was a brief period you know it's like other people   walk in this stuff all the time. For me I had a   a few years when it was really vivid.   Anyway I was   I   was   I think God   that's when God   wanted to teach me   how to read the Bible because I'd been in the circles where   it was   that's what it says believe it that's the end of the matter there's no debate there's no discussion.   And   I saw MA in theology advertised   in at the local church and then I went to a seminar held in Totnes   and I was absolutely mesmerised   by the person who gave this seminar.  

Because he was talking,   he gave us an overview of what we cover in a theology course   and it really amazed me   to hear all the things that I'd kind of questioned and wondered about being talked about openly.   And so   then I found out that he was one of the tutors on this course later on   and there were a number of other things going on and   I was guided to move to Cornwall   and so I decided to enroll in the theology course which I'd seen advertised in Totnes.   So I went along to this course, I had an absolutely amazing time,   I absolutely loved it and when the tutor said to me   you have a gift for this   and they wanted me to go on to do an MA   and   become a lecturer   but   I was still running my businesses, I could only study part time   and I just couldn't see how I could justify it you know. I   would have sacrificed   the family   for my ambition so   I did   the first year   two years first year and another course   and I had to walk away from it which was heartbreaking.  

But since then I have been asked to   to share on a regular basis in church services.   So yeah I mean the story I wrote was for a church service   but I do have to temper what I say   so that people don't   get   discombobulated   by   me saying things that you know they haven't heard before. I said to one vicar,   I said hang on what did I say to him?   I said sometimes I said God hides from us   because   too close an encounter   can be traumatic.   And that's true.   That   when anyone who's had an encounter with God has   walked away from it changed.   And they're left with a sense of   longing   that makes life in this world very tough.  

They're left with a sense of homesickness   and   they want to they want to go back. It's like you've been   at home, your real home,   and then you're told now you've got to go back into the world and you've got to do what you have to do   and in your heart   you're always missing that real home   where God is. So do you know the reincarnation  

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then?  

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It's not something I give any attention to really. I I I know that it's home but then you come back but you go home.   Yeah. I see what you're saying. Well, listen.  

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Don't worry about answering it now because we've got to end. We are gonna have to do this again.   I've loved it. It's been brilliant   because I'm just fascinated   by the whole bible stuff. And a couple of weeks ago,   had a guy on who was talking about,   salt Peter in the bible, the meaning of it, and stuff like that.   It is fascinating.  

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Oh. Right. Right. Right. Right. Pops.  

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It was a couple of weeks ago, actually, but he's gonna come on again. There's just so many hidden meanings, and I think now we're at that point well,   we can discuss it and debate it in some places, but it is fascinating.   Anyway   It's it's good. It's good. Yeah. We better call it a day.   So thank you. Okay. Wonderful miss Louise Tibbetts, our   reform candidate for Porthowen in Cornwall.   And, gawd, you should make it known that you're a Christian as well. They'll love it.   It could be your new unique selling point.  

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I I was trying to think how I could sneak that in. A little cross on the   on the  

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leaflet. Oh, well, I wish you all the luck in the world, my lovely. But They'll find out. Don't worry, Shelley. They'll soon find out.  

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Everything.  

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Well, thanks so much for your time, Louise. I hope you will do it again. Good to talk. Yeah. You take care and, be safe and be very careful when you're doing leaflets. See you soon. Bye bye.  

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Okay. Bye. Take care. Bye. Yeah. Bye.  

[01:00:44] Unknown:

Right. There we are. That was interesting, wasn't it? Wow.   Crikey.   Right.   I'm gonna play a quick tune, and then after this, I will be back with the awesome mister Malefika Scott.   Don't go away.   I'm gonna play a bit of Graham Hart but a different one this week.   I have been meaning to download some of his songs. Anyway, right. Let's play a song and then I'll get the awesome mister Millifigus   Scott on.   I   probably played it and paused it.   I'm probably gonna play the intro again.   Well, there we are. Right. And we are back with part two. Mister Scott, you'll have to unmute your microphone   because I muted you. There we are.  



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Oh, I don't blame you. A lot of people, they had the chance. No. I can hear you typing. It's alright.  

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But apparently, the sound is not great. I've turned things up,  

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so I hope Well, you sound a lot louder now than you did a minute ago. Well, I've just turned myself up.   Oh, well, there you go. There you go.   Yeah.   I didn't actually hear the tune either, but there we go.  

[01:04:54] Unknown:

Oh, God. I hate, I hate technology.   Never mind. Oh, well. Anyway, how are you, mister Scott?  

[01:05:00] Unknown:

I'm I'm very good. I'm very good. Coming down with a bit of a cold, I think, but,   nothing a bit of fresh air and sunshine won't sort out.  

[01:05:09] Unknown:

Wow. What is it like? We could have snow tomorrow.   I mean, that's not forecast. That's just, you know, the weather yesterday, torrential rain, one day.  

[01:05:18] Unknown:

Yeah. I I had to cancel work yesterday.   I bet you did. Yeah. I I I'm normally pretty good about going out and working in the rain, but the two jobs we had on yesterday were, I think, grass cutting and weeding flower beds. And and once it starts running off the front of you   into your hands and what you're doing, it's just yeah. You just get covered in slime, and this just just   make more mess than it's worth. So, yeah, we canceled. And, I did a bit of moving around in the house. So,   got rid of some stuff, did a trip to the dump. Do you know? Right. Here you go. Here's a thing for you. Is there a dump story coming?  

[01:05:56] Unknown:

There's a I love a dump story.  

[01:05:59] Unknown:

Oh, yeah. Well, do you know,   they're limiting so much nowadays what you can and can't take to specific dumps   around Cornwall. And bearing in mind, it's all a centralized thing.   But so if I wanna take stuff to Newquay,   that's fine as long as it's not aggregates   or it's not any kind of furniture like sofas, mattresses, beds, that kind of thing.   So but if I wanna get rid of if I wanna get rid of a sofa, I've gotta go to Bodmin   because Bodmin is the only dump in the near vicinity that will accept a sofa   or a bed.   But if I wanna get rid of, say, for instance,   the substrate out of my old fish tank, you know, the little chippings that you put in the bottom of a fish tank, I can't take that to Bodmin or Newkey. That's gotta go to St. Austell   because it's classed as aggregate.  

So  

[01:06:54] Unknown:

I know. What is what is going on with this? I know. We had to go to Saint Day 1 the other day. And,   we were in the queue for   half an hour. And, I mean, I feel sorry for these people that wanted to actually drive past the dump because there was no way to overtake. The traffic was so bad.   And we were in there. And just as we were leaving,   there was two cars left,   and they were told,   sorry. It's 04:00. You'll have to go now. There's only two cars. Bang on 04:00.   See, if I worked there, I would have been, go on. Go on. Be quick.   Just hurry up. I'll give you a hand. Yeah. Or if I was on the receiving end, I would have just driven right through and parked up anyway.  

I'd be damned if I waited that long.  

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Shit. You've just rammed the gates. Yeah.   It's just a way.   Coming through. Coming through.   No. But, I mean, the thing is,   yeah, obviously, it's it's a centralized thing anyways. It's all run by Cornwall Council.   So, you know, the illegal organization that you Oh, I need to talk to you about that in a minute. Yep. Oh, great. Okay. Well, I'm sure it will follow on quite quite flowingly.   But,   you know, it's got to the point now where if you wanna get rid of a fridge or a freezer,   you have to pay to have it taken away if you can't get it to the dump yourself.   But it's cheap. They'll pick up three items in one go. But if one item is a sofa and you've got a fridge and a freezer, they'll only pick up the two items   because it's a different category, and it goes to a different place. This is getting fast getting to the point where,   well, you know they want us to rent everything anyway.  

Yeah. So it's getting harder and harder to get rid of your used goods. You know, in this green world   whereby we're all supposed to be watching our carbon emissions,   yet, You know, if I buy,   just a standard utensil like a frying pan or something like that,   after six months, it's useless. You know, I've got enamel tins that I cook in in the oven   that were my grandma's,   and they're still going.   Right? There's no there's   there's no carbon footprint there if that's what you want to call. Anymore there, is it? No. Yet we're all supposed to be green. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. So we're all supposed to be green, but we live in a throwaway society.   How does that work?  

Like, it's it's almost as ludicrous   as keeping the last steel plant going, but shutting all the blooming coal mines. So we now have to export or import coal from places like Japan   or America, a huge cost in order to keep the last steel the last,   you know, one of the last steel places open here.   And there's a there's a coal mine just, like, six miles up the road   that they won't open.   You know? So this whole green footprint   nonsense. Anyway, I digress.   I digress. You don't This whole thing   this whole thing about taking separate things to individual dumps, and some dumps won't take it, when it's all a centralized thing and it all comes out apparently of your council tax, which doesn't go to the council, it goes to Whitehall and then comes back in an allocation,   it's getting fast to the point where you won't be able to take any of this stuff anywhere. And you will, a, have to pay to have it taken away,   or you could step five, ten years into the future, and you'll just rent your fridge, freezer,   your sofa,   and it will be the government's responsibility to take it away for you because, bless you, you sit at home and keep your creature comforts because you've lost all your freedoms.  

It's just   incrementally,   I can just see how this is panning out and and then over the next five years to the next decade,   it's gonna get to the point where,   you know, there won't be such a thing as a dump you can go and visit.   Everything will be logged, dated. Oh, that's not your barcode. You didn't purchase that. It is always Who's rubbish is in who's been fly tipping in your rubbish bin? Sorry. We're not taking it away. Because you do have to, like, book slots at certain dumps.  

[01:11:01] Unknown:

Yeah. And I know my son-in-law   went and, the guy said,   sorry. You haven't booked a space. And he said, but there's no one here. And he said, it doesn't matter. You haven't booked a space. And it's like, oh my god.  

[01:11:13] Unknown:

Yeah. And then we we turn up having booked a space the other day, and he said, have you booked?   Because we were we were ten minutes early, and I thought they wouldn't let us in. Right?   So I said to the missus, like, hide your phone. Hide your phone.   And he said, have you booked? And I said, yeah. And he said, your number plate is not on the list, at which point my missus whipped out the phone and went, look. We've booked. You know?   And he said, oh, that's the third time today a number plate hasn't shown up. So he just let us in anyway   even though we were we hadn't met our allotted time slot or whatever.  

It's all it's all just a shambles. You know? Yeah. It's All this whole thing about All the new bins Sorry. Go on. All of the new bins, the black wheelie bins.  

[01:11:56] Unknown:

And you think how much money they've spent, how many people had previous green bins   that the council have arranged to collect and take away, or you can repurpose them, recycle them, whatever you wanna do.   But today, I drove past   about five different bins that hadn't been emptied,   and they all had a piece of paper, like, stuck on them. And I think that because the lids were open and they were overflowing,   they won't take them. They won't take them. Because they're really strict.   If that was me, you see, again, perhaps I would, perhaps I wouldn't. It'd be a pain in the neck if every house you went to, you had to now   remove four or five bin bags just to make the bin lid close. It's not really part of your job. But   at the same time What happened when we didn't have these stupid wheelie bins for everything? The bin when we just picked the bloody rubbish bags up off of the end of your driveway and put them in the effing bin. So now these people next week, they're gonna have double well, it comes in a fortnight, doesn't it? So they're gonna have double the amount of rubbish, so they are gonna have to purchase a second bin.  

Mhmm. But it's all about making money, isn't it?  

[01:13:02] Unknown:

Of course, it is.   Not notwithstanding   the fact that Cornwall Council   paid,   before they rolled all this out,   something like   it was either $30   or $300.   So one of the two is quite a big difference between the two figures. I don't know. I can't remember now because it's quite a while back, but it was at least $30   that they paid  

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to store. No. I think it was near the 300,000   mark. Yeah. 300,000  

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to store all this   single use plastic   before they rolled it out. See what I said there? Single use plastic. How green.   How wonderfully green.   You know?   And I dare say they probably use the old   the the old   aircraft museum   up at RAF Saint Morgan to store half of it in because they kicked them out of their place around that sort of time. So,   yeah, I I   you know, someone's made an awful lot of money   out of all that single use plastic   that got created   just to roll out this new thing. And this this this new thing is being rolled out   everywhere, countrywide   now.  

So it's not down to local council decisions rather like the 20 mile an hour speed limits. It's nothing to do with local council,   governance. It's down to the fact that they're rolling it out everywhere.   Obviously, again, it's not about your health. It's about control.   Same as the COVID jab. This wasn't about your health.   It's about control.   You know? And just slowly, slowly tightening the thumbscrews.   You know?   All this stuff about tariffs and Trump and all that nonsense   last week,   and the fact that, you know, obviously, all the crypto is invested into things that are affected by the supposed gold standard, etcetera, etcetera,   or the dollar, the petrodollar.  

You know,   all it is, it's the same old excuses   being rolled out again and again and again, just relabeled.   It's just what they really need to do is just have an annual or   a triannual   or quadrangle,   we're going to tighten the thumbscrews announcement   rather than dressing it up in all the bullshit that they normally do. Sorry. Excuse my French. But,   everyone says, oh, this this this now this tariff is going to come in, and it's going to affect this currency, and it's gonna affect the incomes of these people. It's like, this is just can't you see it? It's the same thing happening over and over again. How many thumbscrews do they need to tighten before people start actually feeling the the the pressure and going, hang on. I'm not gonna put up with this. The boot is firmly on the neck.  

[01:15:50] Unknown:

Well, there was a bit of a stir caused yesterday   because   there   were a few protesters   outside County Hall   Oh, yes. That were   protesting   against why the council   funding   war torn countries and stuff like that, helping towards Palestine and Israel and stuff. It wasn't worded like that, but the comments, Maleficus,   because lots of people don't know that bits of your council tax goes back into the system and how it's for the   monetary side, the the weapons and arms industries and stuff like that. Absolutely.   So I went on, and I just said because first of all, people are just slating them all. Get back to your own country, blah blah blah. And I just put something like, so you think it's alright for us to fund, you know,   wars, you know,   weapons, and stuff like that.  

And then, of course, they all started biting, didn't they, as if our counterattacks pays for that.   So then I'm on the phone   to Graham, and I'm like, god. What hard evidence have you got? Because I know I've got stuff somewhere.   So he sent me a few pictures   of freedom of information requests, basically,   the that guy, Paul Patterson, the anti national council tax campaigner, he's written a book. Right. And it's got these letters in there, and it basically was in 02/2007   that Cornwall County Council was helping   to way to pay pun pensions   for the BOA schemes and stuff like that. So in 02/2007,   they were definitely   funding.  

But so the questions then, there was loads of people.   Oh, I've never heard of this before. Blah blah blah blah blah. And there were like I said, it was 1,500   comments.   So today, I've just not long before we came on the show. I'll have a quick look on Cornwall Live, and   let me find the title.   Following a vigil honoring children killed in Gaza,   questions were asked about Lord Hutton, chair of the Cornwall And Isles' silly economic forum in relationship to his connection to a military equipment manufacturer.   The headlines are leader denies Cornwall council is complicit in genocide in Gaza.  

So there's a fair few comments again. So yesterday, because of everything that came out,   they've been they've had loads of people   firing questions at them and asking is if there are any other   council tax. Let's have a listen. So here's some of the public questions.   In the light of the ongoing mass slaughter of Palestinian civilians by the Israeli army   oh, Craigie, my page has just scrolled down right. In the light of the ongoing mass slaughter of Palestinian civilians by the Israeli army, how does this council morally justify its ongoing investments   using its citizens council tax payments in arms to Israel without their knowledge or consent?  

Another one said, in the light of our local MPs' grave concern at actions by the Israeli government and defense forces,   will the council review its policies on pensions investment and official representation   to ensure he's not complicit in genocide?   Anyway, there's a big write up about it and stuff, but it's got people asking questions.   Yep. And that's what it's all about. That's what it's all about. Because I was like, oh, why am I doing this? Post a few pictures of a book and I don't get into the argument, but then loads of people were like, oh, this is news. No. You just chuck a grenade in the room and run.   Well, I used to get really happy on those arguments and I can't be bothered. And to be honest with you, I wasn't expecting much of a feedback when someone did said, oh, you're off your head, Shelley Tasker. I expect that anyway.  

But, Yeah. Yeah. So, yeah, quite interesting.   Things are looking. People are questioning   things. And the fact, like, we tend to have two Palestinian women outside   asking why they're supporting this. Yeah. So that's a bit of Cornish news and to do with the council.  

[01:19:42] Unknown:

Yeah. Interesting.   Interesting stuff.   Well, you know,   we shouldn't be paying anything without   add some sort of representation.   You know, we we should all be able to say, right. Well, what's what's this money gone on there? And they they can't answer   it because they   they can't tell you because it goes up to Whitehall before it gets reallocated back to Cornwall Council.   And then Cornwall Council is stitched up for,   lending money to other councils that have invested their money badly.   You know?   What was it? We got 6,000,000 back off of some London borough a couple of years back because they'd invested in some, again, green   infrastructure, which never came to fruition, and they were ripped off by some dodgy company,   probably set up but with some sort of inside knowledge and full knowledge of what they were gonna do.  

But what does it matter? Because it's it's just the cattle's money. You know? It's just it only equates to their hard work. It only equate equates to their time on the planet.   Why should it matter to anyone higher up?   You know? The most the most valuable commodity we all have on this planet is time.   And the older you get, the more valuable it becomes.   Therefore, your working life and and everything that you do that you do to survive and push forward through through life. That's it has to be spent value valuably.   And when you've got   fools and thieves attempting to rip you off left, right, and center,   and filter off your hard earned time on this planet, your hard fought for time on this planet, not forgetting a lot of us   are are lucky to be here. A a lot of people   there should be a lot more of us here, but their ancestors were wiped out in the two last wars.  

So they never they were never born.   You know,   it's it's so frustrating that   people know that there's stuff going on that's wrong,   and they spend most of their time going,   oh, yeah. Well, what can we do about it? It's like I mentioned earlier about this whole nonsense with, a perfectly good coal mine in The UK,   at least one.  

[01:21:55] Unknown:

Yeah. At least.  

[01:21:57] Unknown:

You know?   Yeah. At least one.   And and and yet we're importing   coal from foreign countries. For what purpose?   For it's gotta be some sort of global purpose because it doesn't suit us back here at home, does it? So it begs the question as to who who your all your world leaders are.  

[01:22:20] Unknown:

Well, I'm sure we'll come to that.  

[01:22:23] Unknown:

We will. We will indeed. Yeah. We've got it's good you've actually touched on it's interesting about you know, you've touched on the Israel Palestine   war   at the moment.   I I would like to say that Israel   actually doesn't exist. There's no such place. It was named that in 1947,   '19 '40 '8, and, it was only a tiny little stretch of land at the time.   The actual real name for that area of land and the most ancient name for that area of land, as far as I'm aware, is Palestine,   but you won't find it on   any Google map nowadays. If you type in Palestine, a big map of Israel comes up.  

[01:23:03] Unknown:

Wow. Interesting things. I mean,   I'm I've started a new book this week, and like I said Oh, dear. Oh, I've gotta show you. I gotta show you.   I actually bought it for my dad for his birthday, but it didn't come in time, so I'm reading it.   Guy Anderson   and the Tesla and the Cabbage Patch Kids.  

[01:23:24] Unknown:

Okay.  

[01:23:25] Unknown:

All to do with,   Tartaria   and stuff.   Oh, okay. Interesting. Yeah. Yeah. He's actually gonna be my guest next week.   Oh, wow. That's really cool. Yeah. I didn't realize. And, anyway yeah. But just how they're,   well, how they've got rid of so much information.   You know, it mentions a lot of history in the start of the book about Dresden being, like, left. And I know it's a theory anyway that they left it so long because it was one of the old towns that had what was left of, like, Tartaria structure and things like that.  

[01:23:58] Unknown:

But Yeah. It was one of the most beautiful cities in in in all of Europe, and it was it was a very ancient city   as well. There was a lot of  

[01:24:07] Unknown:

heritage there. Like, eight hundred years on the timeline or something. Or is that in the bible? Oh, I don't know. Don't take my word for it because, I've only read a couple of chapters. But, yeah, time, you know, three mudfloods dates and stuff like that. But,   just it's in a whole new subject, Malefika, so I'm just, I've been fascinated in it for ages. So, yeah. Oh, excellent. Well, I will I will I will listen,  

[01:24:31] Unknown:

with open ears to the to the show because that's, yeah, interesting subject. I haven't covered really covered any of that. I guess,  

[01:24:40] Unknown:

you know, you you can only cover so much, can't you? My whole point, actually, because you're saying how the names have changed on the maps. Well, of course, you could get maps that had Tartarion   on them, but now they don't. Yeah. Yeah. That was my whole point of that.  

[01:24:55] Unknown:

Yeah. Yeah. But but it's true. And and they're permanently trying to erase history. You know, a lot of the old,   you know, for the war efforts and all that kind of things, you know, how many book presses actually got destroyed to and made it so certain books   that weren't favorable to the establishment,   all their little because, you know, they were they were   made in,   metal sheets, weren't they? And they would rub the ink on to the the metal thing, and then it would so they'd   and and that's how they print the books from these these plates, these metal plates. And a lot of   the unfavorable   books all got melted down for the war effort. You know what I mean? So you you'll you'll find now that there's certain books that   they're no longer in print,   very, very rare books. I can't I can't think of one offhand, but, you know, there are a lot of books out there now that are just they only exist in someone's bookshelf or attic, and there's no other copies.  



[01:25:49] Unknown:

You know? Crazy. Yeah. You never know where you're gonna find a good book, do you? I did think the other day I can't give it away, though, because it's too precious, and I love books, but I've more or less finished Hellstorm. And I thought, we've got one of those phone boxes that's a swap swap it shop.   In Oh, man. That would be a bombshell. Yeah. Somebody finding that and reading it.  

[01:26:09] Unknown:

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's the sort of thing I would love to do if I had the money to just buy books willy nilly. I'd love to put copies because there's those book exchanges are everywhere. I'd love to buy copies   of various books and just, just plant them. That's a brilliant way to plant seeds. Isn't it? Yeah. Cause you know, if someone picks up a book they're, they're more likely going to get, if they get into it, they'll read the whole thing,   you know? Yeah. So, yeah, planting seeds like that. There's so many books I would love to just have, you know, little paper versions of and slip into these places. That's such a good idea. It is, isn't it? Yeah. Well, perhaps if we win the lottery  

[01:26:47] Unknown:

anytime, we'll invest x amount and do that. But then you would get people going in and thinking, oh, I don't agree with that because I used to leave   a load of the light newspapers down in there, and you know that someone would just go in there and think,   And I don't like the way that they take that choice away from other people choosing whether they want to read it or not but because they believe it's like   a conspiracy alternative news newspaper,   they bin them, and that frustrates me. But hey. Yeah.  

[01:27:14] Unknown:

Yeah. You just need to sneak them into, like because our local co ops got a little book exchange as well.   So, yeah, you just need to sneak them into little places like that. Be good. Be good.   Maybe yeah.   Maybe if there's a there's some sort of funds towards the end of the year, maybe we'll, we'll go on on Christmas mission.  

[01:27:33] Unknown:

A fund?  

[01:27:35] Unknown:

Yeah.  

[01:27:36] Unknown:

Okay.   Right, mister Scott. We are nearing the bottom of the hour.   Okeydoke. Listen to me, don't I sound professional. I finally know what that means. The bottom of the hour, top of the hour.   Yeah. Yeah. It's where it's where the pain. I'll tell you what. You're gonna say, well, it's not sounding too bad. I've come off a medication that I was taking because I was permanently   feeling stoned.   And I was like a I was like, someone's stoned if you're speaking to me. I'm like,   couldn't think of nothing. And on Sunday, I was like, do you know what? I've got to stop taking this. So I've gone, like, five days today without it. And I'm like,   god. Let my brain works. I mean, it's it's nowhere near amazing.  

I still can't remember certain things, but I can you know, it's a lot more focused than what it was. Crikey. Oh, brilliant. Well, yes. Well,  

[01:28:24] Unknown:

all I can say is keep it up. And and while you're keeping up, read as many books as you can. Yeah.  

[01:28:30] Unknown:

I'm not saying it'll stay there, but it's not as bad as what it was. Crikey.  

[01:28:34] Unknown:

Anyway Well, that's good news. That's good news. And that's that's,   yeah, that's, that's another nail in the coffin for pharmaceuticals, isn't it? So,   yeah.   Okay. So I I better let you play a little tune on the on the xylophone. Otherwise, Patrick will,  

[01:28:51] Unknown:

complain. Patrick is the only fan. I was gonna leave it   in today because I thought   perhaps it's a bit silly because it's so short, isn't it? It's like, I need a longer one so I can, like, learn a proper tune and you can all be impressed. Definitely need some minor notes in it as well.   That's the start of a song, isn't it?  

[01:29:14] Unknown:

I'm getting that. Yeah. I think it's kung kung fu fighting, isn't it? Look at that without even trying. Right. I'll I'll name that tune in six.  

[01:29:22] Unknown:

That's what we should do before you start. Name that tune.  

[01:29:27] Unknown:

Right. There's your introduction, mister Scott. Take it. Okay. So so we are continuing with the hidden government book, Granddad's hidden government book. We have reached   the chapter five, which is   interestingly enough considering subject matter in Cornwall this week,   Palestine   and the plan. Oh. So quick disclaimer.   I'm reading a book, folks. If anyone's offended,   just send me an email and, let me know what it was you were offended by. It's not my intention to set out and offend anyone. Just simply go through a book that was written,   you know, seventy odd years ago. So not eighty odd years ago as I stated last last week. Anyway,   so chapter four, hidden government by lieutenant colonel j Cray Scott.  

So Palestine and the plan. And underneath the counterhead the subheading is our countersign   is force and make believe.   So to understand the true significance of Palestine in relation to the Zionist master prototype   for world conquest and exploitation,   officially known as the plan,   it is necessary to recall much that the Zionists would like forgotten.   For instance,   their rights to Palestine   at all,   their astounding methods for obtaining those, quote, unquote, rights,   and finally,   their real reason for wanting and insisting on getting Palestine   in preference to other more attractive places offered them as a national home.  

When Great Britain shouldered the heavy burden of accepting the Palestine mandate on behalf of the League of Nations after the First World War,   and after she, by her sacrifice and exertions,   with the limited but loyal aid of the Arabs under the fabulous Lawrence of Arabia,   had freed Palestine from the barbarous yoke of the old Sultan of Turkey,   they speedily discovered that under one pretext or another, Palestine was being used as a dumping ground for the riffraff from the ghettos of Europe.   Much to the alarm and impoverishment,   as well as inconvenience and dislike of the Arabs, who'd lived their pastoral lives there for over two thousand years.  

When the Arabs rose   rose in their wrath to drive out these alien intruders   who were despoiling them of their homes and their livelihoods,   the Zionists   immediately set their machinery in motion.   Wailing and agitation arose in every quarter likely to be of any help.   Men and money were mobilized to to flood the Christian countries   with nauseating and misleading propaganda,   picturing these exploiters of the Arabs   as the usual poor, each ill treated,   bewildered Jews,   once again being brutally abused   by cruel oppressors.   Mass meetings   of hysterical Jews led by their Zionist paradrones were organized in every large city here, that's The UK,   and in America.  

Thus, we had the spectacle   of the late Lord Melchiot roaring from the platform of the Albert Hall.   The first duty of a government   is to govern.   So when he said that I'm just,   stopping reading there. When he said that, he was talking about   the problems that, obviously, they were having over in,   in Palestine because the Arabs were rising up and because Britain had the mandate, quote, unquote,   to keep peaceful law and order over in Palestine,   this chap, this lord Melchior, roars from the platform of the Albert Hall, the first duty of a government is to govern.   So going back to the book, meaning, of course, that once more British treasure   and lives will be would to be poured out to save Jews from the consequence   of their own greed and unpopularity,   and all in the name of law and order.  

What a piss what a pity some Christian politician   didn't thunder Melchitz' dictum from the same platform   when a cowardly government was allowing British troops to be murdered with impunity   by these same Jews   after the second World War.   So I'm just gonna elaborate   on that a sec. So,   so the first duty of government is to govern,   meaning, of course, that we then had to step up to the plate and sort out all the problems that were going out going on out there and protect these poor people that were being attacked by Arabs.   So when he says what a what a shame, what a pity it is that some Christian politician didn't thunder the same   words from the platform when a cowardly government was allowing British troops to be murdered with impunity by these same Jews after the second World War.  

They're talking about,   there were three,   quote, unquote, terrorist organizations   working in in Palestine at the time, the Irgun,   the Stern Gang,   and another one whose name escapes me.   And these guys were basically there to agitate   and   and,   incite   trouble   more and more so that,   essentially,   they would get countries like Britain   and,   America to come to their aid to to push the the the   Arabs, you know, out of their places of residence, etcetera etcetera.   And when after the second World War,   when   when, you know, when all this was going on, and you had these people destroying the the,   the Saint David Hotel,   and we had two guys. If anyone wants to look up online,   you've literally all you gotta type in is the sergeant's   affair.  

And   these were two liaison officers   who were off duty at the time.   You know, they were they were part they were there in the military as part of the Palestine mandate, peacekeeping, etcetera etcetera. They were   abducted either by the Irgun or the Stern gang. I think it was Irgun.   They were abducted by them,   held in a a sealed room,   in a basement   with an oxygen canister   and told to make told them you know, they told them to make it last. And, eventually, they were both hoisted out and hung with piano wire.   And then   after that,   obviously, beaten to a pulp   and then hung with piano wire.  

And, then they hung these guys   by ropes   in a place called now called the Sergeant's Grove. It was an olive grove.   And they informed the British,   you know, they informed the British where they'd left the two murdered sergeants.   And they booby trapped the bodies as well. So when when they were,   when the when the Brit when when the Brits went there to sort of cut them down out of the tree, the people cutting them down out of the tree were maimed and injured   from,   you know, attempting to   just just cut down their mates and give them a decent burial. That's   so that's what granddad was on about when he says, what a shame that same you know, the first duty of government is is to govern. What a shame that same dictate wasn't poured out when things like that were happening to British troops   over there. Look up the Saint David's Hotel,   bombing as well. All stuff done to agitate agitate   and cause more problems out there.  

So anyway,   so once again, the Zionists had their way, and Great Britain had to bear the odium of having betrayed their own faithful Arab allies to whom she had pledged the security of Palestine   as a reward for their assistance in the First World   War, and all because of a frenzied clamour engineered by the Zionists in every Christian country,   and particularly in The United States, hotbed of Jewish intrigue and propaganda.   So   we've already covered Lawrence of Arabia a little bit, but what he's talking about there is during the first World War,   after the Balfour declaration, which we'll get into in a minute,   Lawrence of Arabia rounded up a load of the Arab warlords and said, look, We can we can help you kick   Turkey,   you know, the the the the Turkish regime out of the Middle East, and we'll free Palestine. We'll help you free Palestine. That's the only reason the Arabs joined in and helped.  

They, you know, they were they were trying to get rid of Turkish rule. They wanted to just govern themselves, and they thought   that's what the British were actually going to do. And it got to the point where come the second World War, Lawrence of Arabia   or or Shaw, I believe his second name really was,   ended up   refused to join them back into the military even though he could have joined gone back in to active service at a very, very high rank.   No. He refused to have anything to do with the military because of his disgust of how his actions were used,   and he joined the RAF at the lowest rank possible.  

And he was then   later bumped off.   So   a strange tragic bike accident, the Lawrence the great Lawrence of Arabia had. But, of course, you couldn't just bump him off normally   or incarcerate him   under the 18 b internment laws, which is any opposition to the second World War. Everyone was getting locked up   under the 18 b internment laws. Well, they couldn't have got away with locking him up   because everyone in Britain knew his face because he was the the great Lawrence of Arabia.   So I think, personally, they they quietly arranged to for him to have a motorcycle accident on his way home from  

[01:39:22] Unknown:

wherever he was. So Well, most probable, really. Yeah.  

[01:39:27] Unknown:

Yeah.   So, anyway, so how ironically history was to comment upon this shameful deed. He's talking, again about the the the Middle East. Yeah.   When some twenty five years later, now well established in the choicest parts of Palestine under the protection of British guns,   these same Jews, having been saved from the fires of Belsen   by British sacrifice,   showed their gratitude by making sport of their benefactors as they had done of the Arabs, by getting rid of them in a campaign of such treachery,   savory,   and indecency   that only the diabolical cunning   and carefully prepared directives of the plan could possibly account for it. So we're talking about the murdered sergeants. We're talking about, you know, the bombing of the King David hotels. Not Saint David, King David hotels. Sorry.  

Having gained their ends at the expense of the Arabs, the Zionists turned to the next part of their program,   a legal title to Palestine itself as their national home.   And this they did with typical cunning by appealing to world opinion on the grounds of religion,   the shopworn but still effective trick of the wandering Jew   seeking a place of his own to lay his weary head.   What better place   than his own native land from which he had been driven   by the Romans when they burned down Jerusalem   not long after the crucifixion.   He has written in brackets here,   actually, the Jews abandoned Palestine when they found that the Romans were standing for none of their nonsense.  

Soon, their typical campaign of maudlin appeal and bluster had its effect. The usual cranks of whom this land has more than its fair quota   swarmed to this latest high sounding cause   just as they were counted on doing.   Followed the so called mischievous   Balfour declaration, which in fact was not at first more than an expression of genteel, pious, and personal opinion   uttered by Arthur j Balfour   as a guest,   at a public dinner.   Unfortunately for us in the piece of the world, the brilliant but somewhat effete mister Balfour,   darling of that precious mid Victorian coterie, the souls,   intellectual and aristocratic   forerunners of the more dissolute and unwholesome bloomberry adulation of cranks, crooks, and crunchies   masquerading as intellectuals,   happened to also be a high ranking member of her majesty's government or his majesty's government. That's   right.  

No. Hers.   As such,   what was originally intended to simply be a tactful aside became news of the utmost political importance.   It was instantly seized upon and magnified into an official statement of government policy   by the ever alert Zionists.   In the hurly burly of conflicting statements, denials,   counterstatements   following upon each other's heels with stunning rapidity,   the general public got so tired of the whole controversy   and so confused about the issues involved,   still another example you may think of the plan at work,   that it welcomed the government settlement of the whole question.  

Little did we know then how dearly we and others would pay for this settlement,   which in fact was nothing more than diplomacy's   artful way of trying to escape an unwelcome dilemma and make the best of two opposed worlds. For the decision was couched in the following words, obviously intended to protect the Arabs   while placating the Jews.   It being clearly understood that nothing this is part of the Balfour Declaration,   supposedly granting,   Palestine,  

[01:43:20] Unknown:

to Jews. A good idea one week,   Yeah. To play his speech   because it's out there, isn't it, on YouTube? I believe you sent it to me ages ago when I was first reading your granddad's book.  

[01:43:34] Unknown:

I'm yeah. I mean, you can get it. You there is a a version of it read out online, I believe. Yeah. We can get into that at at some point. So, actually, so before we go any further into that,   really important,   that last chapter that last paragraph I just read. So,   obviously, Balfour made this this declaration at a public dinner. It was instantly seized upon   and transformed miraculously into some sort of government policy and then a declaration   signed by Arthur j Balfour, no less.   But,   obviously, there was a bit of controversy   when all this came about. So granddad says here, in the hurly burly conflicting statements, denials, and counterstatements   following upon each other's heels with stunning rapidity,   the general public got so tired of the whole controversy   and so confused about the issue involved   that it welcomed the government settlement of the whole question.  

Does that not   that scenario not sound so familiar   when you're dealing with all these, well, why why can't we open a coal mine that's just up the road?   Why do we have to have jabs? Because, you know, or you   because oh, because the virus is this bad. Oh, yes. But they haven't been tested yet. Oh, well, look. It's there's so many conflicting views.   The public are just normally content   to leave it to the government to make the decision. And I have to say, it's not in the book, but it's normally a bad choice to do such a thing.  

[01:45:04] Unknown:

Am I right in thinking it wasn't his choice to  

[01:45:08] Unknown:

offer Palestine to them anyway, that it shouldn't be the same thing? I think I think it would be more likely that he was asked to say something regarding it at a public dinner   so that it could be pounced upon   and turned into public policy.   Your government policy, should I say.   So I think it's more likely that someone's whispered in his ear and say, I might be handy if you just   you know, rather like, I don't know, organisations   like,   for instance,   the Conservative or the Labour Friends of Israel.   Somebody like that might have gone up to mister Balfour and said, you know, you're you're you're having a conversate you you're doing a talk at the dinner tonight, aren't you, old boy? And there's gonna be quite a few important people there. Do you think you might mention something to do with the fact that,   you know, us poor people deserve a nice home to live in and and blah blah blah.  

You know, that's it's it's that simple.   You know? Oh, well, check that there's a brown envelope in your in your in your letterbox in the morning, and you can do it in the evening. Yeah? No problem. Lovely job, mate. Thanks.   Lovely jubbly.   Yeah. Yeah, mate. The policy's in the bag. You know? Simple as that. Because you've only got a mention. Doesn't matter whether you're lying or telling the truth. In the public eye, if it's said enough times, people just accept it as fact.   And you as a wise person for telling it. You know?   So,   yeah, just I I just love the fact because, obviously, granddad says, you know, after all the conflicting statements,   the whole the public got so tired of the whole controversy   about the issue involved. He says then, still another example you you might think of the plan at work.  

Well, what are these people doing all the time? They're muddying the waters so people can't they don't wanna pull their heads out of their asses because they're frightened they might have to put it might have to put it up someone else's nowadays. Sorry for the disgusting metaphor. But no you know, everyone wants to live in their little safe little bubble. They wanna question anything.   The boot is well and firmly on the neck of everyone. The thumbscrews are getting tightened all the time as as I keep saying. And no one wants to go,   hang on a minute.  

You know? And the most important place to do it, folks, is literally your local community. The people next door to you, people that live next door to you and and all that. So,   anyway,   so part of the Balfour Declaration I'm keeping an eye on the time because this is a long chapter, so we probably won't get through it,   because it's there's a lot to be said about, Palestine and the plan.   So   part of the, declaration, the Balfour declaration states,   it being clearly understood   that nothing shall be done which may prejudice   the civil and religious rights   of the existing   non Jewish communities   in Palestine.  

Let me just say that again. Look at what's happening now,   you know, nowadays over in that little neck of the woods. What's been happening our whole lives, Shelley?   Literally, our whole lives, you know, if we could think murder.   Yeah. All in that area. And what's happened? The the Arab lands have shrunk and the   Israeli lands, if you want to call them that, have got an awful lot bigger. In fact, you know, if you look at the map, so, you know, since 1948   until now Very tiny. It's quite horrific.   Very tiny little place. And it just amazes me that any of these poor people could even survive on a strip like the West Bank. It's just, you know anyway,   it's almost for me, like, they're be almost like they're being kept there as prisoners as   as a   you know, I know they say they won't wanna give up don't wanna give up the land, and it's it's a holy war and all that kind of thing. But, you know, almost.  

It keeps the whole world on a knife edge, doesn't it?  

[01:49:01] Unknown:

So We're just used to it though, aren't we? Because it's always there.  

[01:49:04] Unknown:

It's just It's always there. Yeah. It's always there. There's there's always there's gotta be a bogeyman somewhere. It's Putin now, but it was Osama bin Laden a few years ago. And how many times did he die? Three times, I think, something like that.   Yeah. So so anyway, so it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of non of existing   non Jewish communities in Palestine.   So, yes, you've got a right to live there, but you can't interfere with every anyone else. That was basically that was the caveat put into   the,   the Balfour Declaration.  

This excerpt was, of course,   was was not, of course, the whole of what became known as the Balfour Declaration.   It's chosen here to show how unscrupulous and untrue is the Zionist claim that Britain   promised them outright sole possession of Palestine.   Incidentally,   why we or anyone else should promise them any such thing   must, must remain a mystery to all Gentiles.   Could it possibly be, think you, because of their winning ways and engaging habits?   Certainly, they, with their customary modesty, must think so.   For there is no discernible reason in law or justice for their outrageous claim.  

Even in view of the above ambiguous wording,   I, it would therefore appear to be a case of justifying the event   afterwards   since conscience doesn't apparently enter into it.   How could practice diplomats   frame a declaration so ambiguous that it was bound to lead to trouble?   Oh, let's let's ponder that question.   Yeah. How many times does that happen? You know, how could practice diplomats frame a declaration   so ambiguous   that it was bound to lead to trouble? Or what about our declaration on accepting migration and stuff over here?   How could politicians   possibly   get around a wording that's so ambiguous   that it's bound to lead to trouble?  

Well, the primary answer, Shelley, is that they want it to lead to trouble.   It's the only way the only only way you can think about it, isn't it?   Yeah. Anyway, so in any case, it was made with the clear understanding that nothing should be done which may prejudice the civil right civil and religious rights of existing non Jewish communities in Palestine.   The Jews read into it an absolute   unconditional promise by the British government   plainly to anyone that has the least   honest   to anyone that has the least honesty and intelligence,   the promise   was unquestionably   subject to the rights of the Arabs.  

The Zionist waged the Palestine War on their inter their interpretation   of the Balfour Declaration,   and the Arabs defended themselves   on their interpretation,   which appears to most ordinary people to be the only honest interpretation.   Incidentally,   they also defend their unquestionable right to Palestine.   The Arabs do.   As cardinal Hinsley said, Palestine   belongs to the Arabs.   However, these conflicting interpretations of the Balfour declaration were by no means the underlying cause of the war in Paris Palestine.   Something far deeper and more significant lay behind the trouble. Let's see if we can discover from historical evidence at hand just what it was.  

In the History of the Jewish People,   the authors Margolis and Marx make the following   very significant statement.   These two things, Jewish nationality and Jewish state, were taken for granted by the 200 delegates who were all Zionists.   It remained   to define Zionism and to create the organization   for bringing it into effect.   A platform was adopted,   the per the first paragraph of which read,   Zionism aims at establishing for the Jewish people   a publicly and legally assured home   in Palestine.   Thus,   Zionism stepped out into the open.   Now   whether this is a direct this is going back to granddad speaking. That's it. Now whether this is a direct reference   to and report upon the famous Zionist Congress at Bali in 1897   is not made plain, but it would appear to be. What is quite certain   is that it couldn't be bettered as proof as the authenticity of the plan, and a circumstantial evidence of its designs   in view of what did happen in Palestine.  

Furthermore, it sheds a strong light on why the Zionists rejected not one, but several alternative offers made by the British government   government in their attempts to find a solution of the Palestine problem that would satisfy both the Arabs,   both the Arabs, the lawful owners, and the Jews, the spurious claimants.   Four, in the same book, page 706,   we read that Theodore Herzl reported at the sick to the sixth Zionist Congress   that the British colonial secretary   offered the Jews a large stretch of land in Uganda for the purpose of nationalizing   and colonizing them under a charter of complete internal   economy. So they have their own land, their own economy, that they could do whatever they want with, and they wouldn't be interfered with.  

The Jewish Congress rejected it. Why?   Then there was the famous Argentine scheme launched by Baron Hirsch,   who bought vast tracts of land in Argentine   or Argentina as we know it, as well as   in other suitable countries for Jewish settlement,   all to no effect.   Only a few Jews took advantage of his generous offer, and most of these soon quit and made for the nearest large city.   And in the time   and even in time, Herzl became convinced that the Jews wanted Palestine and would accept nothing else.   Their alleged reason being that it was their spiritual   home. So he offered to buy it from the Sultan of Turkey, who curtly declined.  

Finally, they refused to consider accepting even Madagascar   compared with the barren sultry plains of   Palestine,   which are a desert, you know, in comparison to Madagascar. I mean, Madagascar is so rich,   you know.   But interesting   that so   before   before the obviously, before the first World War,   Herzl   became convinced that the Jews wanted Palestine, would accept nothing else.   Their alleged being is that it was their spiritual home. So he offered to buy it   from the Sultan of Turkey   who declined.   Well, what happened?   We then have Lawrence of Arabia going out there and enticing the Arabs   to help kick the Turks   out as we've already covered.  

It's so convoluted,   isn't it? When you think about it, it's so convoluted. It's it's it's an amazing   story.   Therefore, in view of the well known Jews' avarice and love of getting something something for nothing, or at any rate, nothing more than making a nuisance of himself, an exercise which seems to pay dividends as well as give him considerable person personal pleasure and satisfaction,   it is obvious that they were   fanatically   sincere in their claim,   that they were actuated only by a deep love and spiritual attachment   to the love of their native land,   or they had excellence   an excellent and secret cause   to want it badly.  

So I'm gonna I'm gonna leave it there, Shelley, because we're short time, and it would be a good place to start   on the next   show. So I hope that was enlightening as far as the Balfour declaration goes. Not a lot of people know that at first, it was just it was it wasn't a declaration. It was a declaration in the form that it was to do with a speech that he made at a public dinner.   But other than that,   you know, just whisper it in the right ears,   and then you've got all these right people, you know, all these people, supposedly right people going, oh, yes. That's a good idea, isn't it? Don't you think, Henry? Don't you think, Henry? That's a very good idea. We should put our names down for that. Don't you think?   Come on, old chap. I'll get you another brandy.  

You know? That's how most of parliament works, isn't it?   So,   yeah, interesting stuff.  

[01:57:45] Unknown:

Yeah. It is. And I'm fascinated by that whole Balfour declaration   stuff. I looked into it a while ago when, I mean, not you know, I've just touched the surface, really.   But, yeah, good going. Good going.  

[01:57:58] Unknown:

Wow. Yeah. Well, I mean, the if anyone is interested in, the alternative reasons for the Balfour Declaration being,   issued,   please go on to Bitchute or YouTube   and have a hunt for Benjamin   Friedman   Willard Hotel  

[01:58:15] Unknown:

nineteen sixty two. Sent me. That's what you sent me. Now that's a that's an incredible  

[01:58:20] Unknown:

an incredibly insightful speech by a man who was part of the group and then was later ostracized. He was also present at the Treaty of Versailles and things like that. So, yeah, really insightful guy. Well worth listening to the  

[01:58:35] Unknown:

speech. Great stuff. Well, thank you for that, mister Milaficus Scott.   Thank you listeners.   We will be back the same time next week. And for once, I have got a guest organized. I've got Guy Anderson. We're gonna be coming on talking he's gonna be coming on talking about Tartaria and stuff.   So Fantastic. Have an awesome week. Keep smiling. Keep vibing, and,   we'll see you soon. Thank you for your company, mister Scott.   Been an absolute pleasure as always. Thank you very much. You. You're welcome. You take care, and I'll see you soon.  

[01:59:06] Unknown:

Cheerio. Toodle loo.  

[01:59:09] Unknown:

Right. Now for the outro music, will it work? Of course, it's gonna work. I'm on one tonight.   Have a good week, people.