The Shelley Tasker Show

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Broadcasts live every Wednesday at 7:00p.m. uk time on Radio Soapbox: http://radiosoapbox.com

Tonight on the Shelley Tasker Show, I welcomed co-host Mallificus Scott and guest Sean Surplus for a fast-moving, no-holds-barred conversation that spanned social media pile-ons, chemtrails vs contrails, online “keyboard warriors,” and the week’s biggest flashpoints. I opened up about a TikTok clip involving my granddaughter that was amplified and attacked online, and we explored the psychology of pile-ons, responsible speech, and where cloud seeding, geoengineering and contrails get mixed up. We also dug into the Charlie Kirk shooting—media narratives, on-the-ground footage analysis, the spectacle of memorial pageantry, and what events like these are used to justify—before turning to an ongoing Australian manhunt update, the viral “rapture” prediction that didn’t happen, and a UK parliamentary debate on banning first-cousin marriage, including its ethical and NHS impacts. We rounded out with family, school confidence, and a few laughs, plus independent music selections and live radio hiccups—just another lively night on Radio Soapbox and Clear Air FM.

Note: We do not endorse harassment or the targeting of individuals; please keep debates respectful and safe for all involved.

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We   had   the chance to turn the pages over.   We can ride what we wanna ride.  

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Good evening, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the Shelley Tasker Show here   coming live from radiosoapbox.com   and also airing on Clear FM   Clear Air FM, I should say, the sound of freedom.  

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Yeah. Got an absolutely sparkling show for you guys this evening. Glad to have you all here.  

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Let's talk about conspiracy theories.   The rapture of the church. False news.   It didn't happen yesterday. That's   for   sure.  

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The assassination The assassination of people from a from an angle that you've never seen before.   Wow. It's been an exciting week, actually. It's been playing on my mind a little bit.  

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A 22 year old has been named and shamed.   I wonder why. This week's shock horror story from Cornwall.  

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And other losses. Anyone ever heard of other losses? We're gonna be covering some of that on the, every other week where Shelly   takes an early hiatus from the show. She loves her hiatus.   Now all, of an awful lot more to come, maybe even a surprise guest.   Wonder who it could be.   Oh.  

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Can you see Ketten Trail? Oh my god.   I'm sorry if you heard that.   Good evening again, everybody.   You are listening live via radiosoapbox.com  

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and also being aired on Clear Air FM, the sound of freedom. Good evening, mister Scott. Good evening, missus Tasker. God, you were cutting it fine this evening. I was getting a bit bit sweaty there wondering if you were even gonna show up before the beginning of the hour. Oh, don't. I've had a panic on.  

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I've done something you. No. No. I know better. You wouldn't let me down. I see you wouldn't let me down. Oh, crikey. Maleficus.   I'd like to say it's been an amazing day, and I put,   I put a post on TikTok earlier, which I found quite entertaining.   And this guy has shared it   and blatantly   calling me out for child abuse and stuff like that. So I'm just trying to delete the video. My daughter's messaging me saying, have you deleted the video? Oh, my word. Oh, my word. Really? Oh, it's like COVID times all over again. It just makes me think, don't post anything controversial. I can't cope with the hate.   I'll tell you what it was. Basically, you don't have my granddaughter every Wednesday.  

Yeah. Well, I thought it would be fun today. I thought I'd get a bit creative. And when we're out talking, oh, this is a five g tower.   And just getting her to say it, is it child abuse? I was just like, you know, she doesn't really know what I'm saying.   And You're not you're not lying. It's a five g tower. I know. Well, what I did was I did a photo, not a photo, a little video of her, and I said, see that crisscross in the sky, Phoebe? I said, that's a chemtrail.   Can you say it? And she said, chemtrail.   And then that was it. It's a twenty second video,   and it had about   four horrible comments. But this guy   has tracked me down on Facebook,   shared it, and put my name saying how disgusting I am and everything like that, and it's just made me feel sick. So I've literally   just the last two minutes, my daughter's messaging me saying, have you moved it? Have you taken it down?  



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But people are vile, aren't they? Yeah. Keyboard warriors. Isn't it? The worst worst warrior in the world is someone that cowers behind their screen in a keyboard and and wants to be judged. You know, look. There's an old saying. Right? The   people that judge don't understand,   and people that understand   don't judge.   What a good quote. I like that, but Yeah. He's got a massive following called chemtrails debunked. I've just had a really quick look. Oh, Oh, well, there we go. Oh my gosh. Got an agenda at foot, ain't he? Yeah. Definitely. Definitely. Having this conversation. We've we actually did a a bit of a show. I I had Rhinelander on while you were on hiatus.   A lot of the many folks.  

But I had him on, and we were talking about the there was a £51,000,000   grant given to Exeter University   to explore the possibilities   of,   you know, reducing the rays of the sun. Right? So this is being put out there. This is all being put out there. Nothing in politics happens by accident. Don't forget. Right? So 50 I I had, my mate Ryan Lander on to discuss this. Right? Because   he's not a chemtrail advocate unless it's a military plane.   And I feel there's a simple reason for this. Right?   And that is   commercial airliners   are,   essentially   the the commercial airlines   are taxed to the hilt.  

Why do you think you have to have a certain size hand luggage and it can't be over a certain weight, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera. Reason being is that you have to have,   you have to calibrate the amount of fuel you need for each journey and all that kind of thing, taking into consideration weather conditions, temperatures, blah blah blah blah blah.   So to, you know, to spray anything up in the sky from a commercial   jetliner   is   nigh on impossible because of the sheer volume of tanks you would need in an aircraft   to make any bloody difference whatsoever. And I heard all the nonsense. Oh, but it's mixed in with the jet fuel.  

Nonsense.   That is absolute nonsense. You know,   aviation fuel.   Alright. It's not the cleanest fuel in the world. It's not the most refined fuel in the world, but flipping heck. You know, you you can't be mixing stuff with it because you won't get the combustion. The aircraft won't get off the ground. Okay? So these are these are a few reasons.   Right. The other reason   is, as I said as I said before, if you if you look at,   if you look at a military plane that's designed for refueling other planes in the air, you'll see that it is full. Like, they used to use DC tens for it. They used to,   refuel the Vulcan bombers during the,   Falklands War   with a DC 10 that was literally from one end to the other was rammed full of tanks.  

And they had air aircraft fuel in there that they would feed to the other aircraft, the Harrier jump jets and the Vulcans and this, that, and the other. They feed through an external   tube that would come out from the back of the aircraft, and the the pilots would link it into the little cup that's at the front of the cockpit,   and they'd refuel. So you would need a plane like that   to spray anything. Do you think it had the vastness of the sky? Right? You would need a plane like that designed   solely for carrying   that much   stuff if you Mhmm. End on spraying into the atmosphere. So that's one thing. Now the the other thing is is that people get confused between   chemtrails,   which I'm not saying they don't exist, but contrails,   which is trails of condensation.  

Yeah.   You you have, essentially because it's it's minus 20, minus 30 up there. Yeah? They're flying at, like,   35,000   feet or 45,000   feet, whatever.   So it's bloody cold up there. So,   if there's enough moisture   in the in the air   and not forgetting that,   jet fuel gives out particulates, gives out all sorts of, like, pollution. Yes. Quote, unquote, pollution.   And   the simple fact,   the simple fact of a of a scientific or a, scientific process called osmosis, where water molecules   are naturally drawn to other water molecules.   Right? So if you drop your phone in a bucket of water, what you do with it first?  

A, take out the battery.   B, stick it in a box full of rice.   Why? Because the rice is so dry that the natural process of osmosis   draws the water molecules   out of the phone   to balance. Yeah? Because that's that's essentially what happens. So what happens when you've got,   a a sky that's so polluted anyway because of the sheer volume of jet traffic that we have in the in the air now? So there's a lot of particulates. There's a lot of stuff up there.   And   because these part you know, so a a a jet aircraft will go pass. It'll hit a particularly cold pocket of air, and it'll leave a stripe. Right?   And   everyone goes, oh, yeah. But those stripes spread out. Yes. They do. Because other water molecules   are attracted.  

Yeah. So there is a do you see what I'm saying? The other water molecules in the in the atmosphere are attracted to the larger body of water. That's Right.   Yeah. So that's what happens. It's just it's just it's just the sort of thing that you learn really in in primary school, secondary school, or high school as they say over in The States.   Now I'm not saying chemtrails don't exist. That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying that   the the things that you see left by commercial airliners and you can track these things. You get an app for your phone.   I don't I don't have one, but I know my friend has. He's got an app for his phone,   that you can you see a plane up in the sky. You can   tap in, tell it give it your location, and say what you and show it what you see, and it'll tell you what plane it is. And it's off to Lanzarote or it's off to New York or it's whatever.  

So   if it you know, you can check it. If you you can check it yourself. If it's a contraption I've heard of people using them. Yeah. Yeah. So if if you see a a contrail   that is essentially what they call,   a persistent contrail   because   there's enough pollution up there,   and enough, you know, unburned and burnt up jet fuel   up in the atmosphere along with all the other particulates that are up there. You know, the world's not a perfect place. There's always dust being created by deserts and volcanoes and blah blah blah blah blah. And any particulates water water gravitates   towards,   and that's what happens. So you do get persistent contrails that spread out, and there's a reason that they do that.  

Yeah. It's it's because of osmosis, which is a really, like, a high school grade,   you know, secondary school grade sort of thing to learn about.   So,   it's just applying it in the right ways. Now now, Rhinelander said, you know,   absolutely. If, you know, they've been cloud seeding using aluminum and,   barium and all that kind of thing to cloud seed and all that kind of thing for years. I mean, a long, long time. Yeah. And the difference is if if if I had used the term  

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this is geoengineering   or cloud seeding,   it would have been okay. But it's because I use the word chemtrail.   It turns me automatically into a conspiracy theorist.  

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Yeah. A tinfoil hat wearer. I know. I know.   Well Crikey. A post up of this show afterwards, and I'm sure the the debunking   chemtrails guy will probably agree with what I've said. He probably won't agree with what I've said when it comes to the fact that military planes do do that sort of thing and have been have been doing that sort of thing for years. But the idea that you could give £50,000,000   to three guys in Exeter University   and have that money go, like, even get more than a couple of planes off the ground, you're having a laugh.   Yeah. The sheer the sheer cost of of aviation is just,   it's taxed so much taxed so much now that it's amazing that any of these airline companies even,   you know,   do anything other than struggle to exist.  



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You know? I know. I know.   Yeah. It's mental,   anyway. I've deleted it, I hope.   But he's taken, a screenshot of it, and he's blurred out Phoebe's face, but he's basically said a Cornish grandmother, Shelley Tasker, blah blah blah. And not only has he put it on his page, he sent it to me as a private message. Well, thanks.  

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When you do things like that, you're ultimately out to attack people, aren't you? You are. Of course not. This is like COVID times. Bloody how? What about opening you you should just send him a message back and say, I'm blocking you, but thanks for trying to open a line of communication first.   Yeah.   Literally, just just say that because, you know, I'm not being funny. You don't wanna entertain people. No. I don't. I don't. These days have gone. Yeah. Cranky. Patriotic, just self serving   keyboard warriors.   They're they're they're they're my pet hate   apart from mobile phones, obviously.  



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Obviously.   Obviously.   Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. Social media. It's the first time I've had anything like this for well, since COVID times, and I can't lie. It's like, oh, it's   horrible.   Yeah. God.   Anyway,  

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on with the show. Well, I've never wanted to this whole sort of online safety   bill, blah blah blah blah blah. Is he allowed to send vitriolic messages to you and spread your name about and blah blah blah blah blah? No. Exactly. I suppose we could all share stuff. Did he genuinely accuse you of child abuse? Because I'm not being funny.   Not being funny. That is that is slanderous material. You should be taken to court for that. Yeah. I'm indoctrinating  

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my two year old that doesn't understand. Well, how about the stuff that the schools teach them and stuff like that? I was only having a laugh, for God's sake. I did several of them, actually, outside the 5 G Tower, but do you know what? I'm not gonna upload any of them. I had a creative head on today, and I just thought just for fun, and I'll call it nanny's curriculum.   Just two little reels for fun, but,   I can't cope with the hate.   And they're they're all out there. They're always gonna be. I've put things up before, like,   when my 99 year old nan was alive and, she was paying me £15 a week to do a cleaning.  

I filmed her one day and I said, as of next week,   it goes up to double to £30 an hour.   And it was obvious I was joking. Yeah. But people were all saying, you charge your nan £15 to clean her house. What sort of granddaughter are you? And all this stuff. And it was like, oh my god. She wants me to do it. I've not got a job. She's got loads of money.   You know? Yeah. Is that such a bad thing? And I'm like,   oh, crikey. But I just most of the time, you can carry on ignore ignore these things, but when I've seen that earlier, I'm just like, oh my god.  

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And I can't believe that he sent that to my private e private messenger as well. What a nasty piece of work. I know. I know. He's probably thinking the same about you, but then he's he's he's the one who's being a self righteous keyboard warrior. Yeah. You know what I mean? So Yeah. Self righteous keyboard warrior. I like that. I like that done. Of them. They're they're bloody everywhere. Honestly, there's so many of them. That's that's half the reason social media still exists is because you got so many bloody idiot keyboard warriors out there that think that they're gonna change the world by one of their posts or showing people what they've had for dinner. I mean, honestly,   you know, I don't have these problems, Shelley. Why is that?  

Because I don't have   any   of   these   problems.  

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I'm sorry for you, though. No. It's alright. I well, I don't usually. Like I said, this is the first time since COVID, and,   I just like thought in the end, I didn't take any notice of it, but it's been ages and it's just like you forget what people are like. Yeah. You do. Crikey. And I, you know, when I take things personally as well, I'm like, oh my God. You said that I'm a child abuser and stuff like that. Yeah. Well, I'm not I'm not being funny. He's he's caused mental anguish. He has. He's caused mental anguish  

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through attacking you without even without even making any effort to be in contact first and say, do you think what you've done is responsible?   Yeah. And give you the opportunity to answer for yourself. No. It's just left for the jugular.  

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Yeah. It's probably because he went back on the post and seen that I deleted his comments. I thought things like that. I just my friend used to say to me all the time, just delete and block, delete and block. And that's why I should have blocked him straight away, actually, but I just deleted the comments. And he probably went back to the post and thought, right. I'll have you. Yeah. Well, he went, you know, he went back to the post because it's so important to him that people have responded to what he's written. That's why he went back to the post. You know, if not, you would he would have just made the comment, moved on, and forgotten about it. And that's the thing, isn't it? I mean, I read so much stuff that is rubbish or I don't agree with, but do you know what? Just scroll on each to their own. Yeah. Jog on, folks.   Oh, anyway,   how are you?  

Well, I've had a better day than that. I have to say. Well, my day was going relatively well until about an hour ago, literally.  

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So hence I was very late coming to the show, but I'm here. Oh, that's So have you have you had a good week? I have had a good week. It's do you know what's been the nicest thing about this week is it's been a proper autumn   week, so it's been cold.   But Mhmm. We've had beautiful sunshine.   And it's just and all the leaves are changing, and it's just such a beautiful time of year. Such a beautiful time of year.   So yeah. Yeah. Pretty blessed with that.   My daughter has embarked on her third week of college this week, so she's doing well.   And all the troubles that she had on day one,   you know, two weeks in have been nipped in the butt. I'm so proud of her. Good. And she's not I didn't realize she had any problems. But Oh, no. The the problem she she do you not remember me saying she she attracted the, interest of a of of some guy on the first day? And bearing in mind, she's 15, and most of these guys are 18. Right. And she's been at home for three years, really. So it was, yeah, it was a bit of a shock to the system, but she's she's smashed it, honestly. So so proud of her.  

She's, yeah, got and she's just got in with this right, well, I'm me attitude, and I just I love it. I love it. Good. Good. So I taught her on the I yeah. I said to her, remember, on the first day when I left her, I said, remember? Say, you've heard me say it so many times, but I said, remember,   confidence is a trick. If you walk into a room and pretend to be confident, even though you're dying inside, everyone else in the room will think you're confident, and therefore, you're confident.  

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Yes. And, you know, every morning when Pirin goes to school, I do this talk. This is what I say to him. You're the best. You remember, you're the best. You hold your head high. You smile. You're confident. You're prefect material. You're the best. You keep smiling, boy.   I say that to him every morning. And when he stays the night at his dad's, I even send him a voice note for it every day. But He did. He he had an issue. I think it was the third day. He was in the queue for lunch, and these three elder,   bigger boys were behind him. And, of course, he's tiny. He's just year seven.  

And two of them started stroking his face and saying, aren't you cute? And touching his bag and everything.   And, of course, I came home straight away, and I phoned the school, and, they got out of the CCTV,   and they spoke to the boys and their parents.   And then, apparently, they came up to him after the school on Monday and flicked his ear and just said sorry and walked off.   Anyway, I told the head of year this, and she said that, you know, they've been told to stay well clear of Piran, and I've spoken to their parents again.   So that was the one and only I mean, touch wood, but he's gone in every day. And apart from that little incident, he's loving it. He was so ready for it, meeting new people.  



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Yeah. You know? So fingers crossed. Yeah. Fingers crossed. It'll carry on. You know, it's it's, it's a whole new it's it's very different to primary school, isn't it? And it's a whole new sort of era for them. And,   you know, as with my daughter, there's all these new smells, all these this this new environment that you're wandering around in that's completely alien and all that kind of thing. So, you know, so for for Perrin, it will be no different.   You know?   But, yeah, it's it's these little change or these big changes, they feel like really huge changes at the time, and you forget how huge they were for you,   the older you get. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah.  



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Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. Because I had lots of worries before, really worried. And, now I just think, you know, we take each day as it comes.   Anything happens, I know I can just take him out. But, you know, what's not to say? I think the problem is you hear so many negative stories as well. And because he had to endure bullying at the last school, you assume that it's gonna happen again. Well, actually,   I speak to a lot of people that is like, oh, my child flew through secondary school, had no problems at that school. You know? So maybe he's gonna be that one. Who knows? But I'm certainly not gonna lose any sleep over it, let's say. You know? You just gotta be him. Just gotta be him. Yeah. And you've gotta be confident in the person that, you know, that you want to be. Be the person you want to be. You know,  

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if anyone doesn't like it, eventually, you'll just learn to tell them to get lost. You know? It's Yeah. You know? And that that I think that's the biggest   that's the most difficult thing because everyone feels like that they've gotta be   accepted and, and all that kind of thing.  

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Yeah. Yeah. And that's what I say. Not everybody's gonna like you. We're not everybody's cup of tea.   You know, when it's trying to make that choice. If somebody says something to you, make the choice to not let it upset you. You know, you're getting older now. Don't emotionally react because I think that was the problem before. But, you know, they suddenly move to secondary school and it's like you've outgrown those baby five kids that you were with, you know, as a fresh start. So,  

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yeah. But when people criticize you, it it feels like a personal attack, doesn't it? And it yeah. You you Yes. It does. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I know. Sorry, Shelley. It does alright. Yeah. It does. It feels like a personal attack. Well, in your case, it was a pretty personal attack, I have to say.   But, you know, it it feels when someone says something you don't like as a kid, it does. It feels like a personal attack. And then your sensibilities   and you're you're upset. As a kid, you're more upset as to whether other people are thinking these same things about you and all that kind of will I be accepted by the herd, basically? You know?   So sometimes people sort of cower to that. And it's not until, like, a year in, you you suddenly find out who all the cool people were because they never bowed down to it at all, and they just stayed themselves. You know?  

It's really important. Really important that that that, you know, he forges his own path, isn't it? You know? Yeah. It is. And I think he's doing that. So Good lad. Well, give him a good pat on the back for me. I will. I will. Bless him. So you can hear me clunking about because the the dog has just been irritatingly barking outside my door while I'm trying to concentrate on talking. Rude. How rude. How rude. They just don't know, do they? They don't know. I've had my cousin trying to phone me,  

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she's got a learning difficulty, and we took her out for lunch   all about two weeks ago.   And she used to phone up when we all had home telephones and everybody had your number. She would phone up every evening. And, you know, she's only on the phone for a couple of minutes, and is usually asking what you've had for tea, and she tells you what she's had for tea. I put me I put my dinner on Facebook. Didn't you see?   Well, no. She's not on Facebook. She lives in supported   yeah. But she lives in supported living. And,   we took her out for lunch,   and,   you know, we said we'll make a monthly thing at this. Well, she's very clever. She's gone home and gone on to my website for my photography and found my bloody mobile number.  

So every day now, she's phoning me.   And, you know, I can quickly, just like I've just done, press the, like, end call. And it is two minutes, but,   oh, god. Not again. Yeah. You know, when she used to phone years ago, it sounds awful, but I used to pass the phone around the house, and Maddie would be going, no. Not me. Not me, I'm not here. Then Wesley would be like, not me. And I'm like, just say hello. She's your second cousin.   Bless her heart, but   to change my number. Bless her.  

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And change your website.  

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Yeah. Everything.   No. No. I if she keeps I mean, I can cope with once a day if I'm not busy, you know, two minutes.   And I think she is my cousin. Bless her. But it's just, you know,   always inconvenient   times, bless her.  

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Yeah. Well, you know, that's Jeff, having said that,   you know, when you had a landline,   it was never really sometimes it was inconvenient   because you might be cooking or doing the hoovering or something. But  

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nowadays, it's because everyone carries their phone around with them. It's always a flippant inconvenient. Well, it isn't. You know you know who's calling you as well. You never never used to before. No. No. Unless you had a Posh phone. Yeah. I better answer that. It might be important.   Yeah.   Yeah. So,  

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yeah, anyway. You again. Yeah. Yeah.  

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Yeah. Oh, bless her.   Anyway,  

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we're about half an hour gone. Yeah. Well, we're coming close to the bottom of the hour. I was just gonna say, and you've sent me a a couple of tunes here.   I have. Yeah. Which which one would you like me to play? The government one.   Oh, is that the oh, is that does it start with the words we want?  

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I think so. Yeah. Keir Starmer is a wanker, I think it's called. Oh my goodness. We're not gonna swear on this show again. Oh, but we're not. It's the song I found. I quite liked it.  

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I hope it's the right one anyway. Well, I hope it's the right one.   If not, we'll play it in a bit.   You're stuck with whatever I press play on now, and it starts with we want.  

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Right. Okay.  

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Enjoy, folks. You are listening live to radiosoapbox.com   and  

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Clear Air FM, the sound of freedom.  

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Yeah. Wow. So,   amongst many, many other platforms, I'm sure, who syndicate the program.   Really, really good to have you folks listening in.   Here comes we want something.  

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It's the right one.  

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Welcome back, folks. I'm not quite sure.   Awesome. This is an extra bit. This is what? A wanker.   Hello?   Seem to have lost y'all.   Can you hear me now? Yes. I can hear you now. I can hear you now. I'm not sure I actually caught what the chorus was to that song.  

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Did you not?   I came across that last night. I was like, oh, I like that. I'll tell you what the lengths people go to.   We were talking about hate speech and things like that, but it's a bit different.  

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Incredibly,   incredibly cliched lyrics, I have to say.   But yeah.  

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Something a bit different, something a bit fun.   He's not a very well liked person, is he? Well, I don't think he was in school either. He's kinda got that face about him, hasn't he? You know? He has, and there's lots of stuff coming up now about his past and stuff like that.   Not things I can remember, but I was scrolling through the other night, and it was like, oh, okay. Okay. His links and stuff. Supposed to have. We're not supposed to have any faith in these people.  

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It's designed that way. You're not supposed to have any faith in these people.   All all it does is instill helplessness in everyone. Yeah. Yeah. Do you know what I mean? Everyone,   what can we do about it? With an attitude like that, how could we possibly fail?  

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You know? True. True.  

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You know,   so So there we are. I guess most people's answer is to get behind a flipping keyboard and start lashing out at other people who think they're doing a good job. Anyway, enough said about,   social media.  

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I'm gonna be having bloody nightmares tonight. Anyway, I think Darren came and got my phone during that solve, and he's gone to make sure that it's all deleted and everything because I was in a panic. So   Oh. Anyway, all is fine. All is fine. I've calmed down. Yeah. Good. So you got a hot topic,  

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mister Scott. It is a bit of a hot topic. Because, actually, I was I was gonna bring in a a a guest to sort of discuss over that with. So if we wanted to if we wanted to get on with a a or or he might even be there ready now.   Let's have a little look.   Let's see.   I wonder who this could be. Are you there, mister Sean Surplus?  

[00:31:30] Unknown:

I am here, mister Milificus Scott.  

[00:31:32] Unknown:

Oh, I love the accent.   Two lovely men with gorgeous voices on the radio.   Right. Cheered me up.  

[00:31:39] Unknown:

Good evening, mister Sean Surplus. How are you? I'm doing okay, Shelley. You know, at the start of the show,   I always say to my daughter, I say, it's the Shelley and Melly Show. That's   what I call it. The the Shelley and Meli show. Gotta love it.   But, yeah, you were gonna bring me in for some reason. I don't and I don't know what yet what that is for, mister Scott.  

[00:32:05] Unknown:

Okay. Sorry. I'm sorry. Yes. I was muted then. Sorry.   Yeah. No. I was, I I sent you a video yesterday. So everyone's been,   up in arms, obviously, about this whole Charlie Kirk shooting thing. And I don't wanna spend, like, ages and ages   on it. But, because, you   know, I didn't follow the guy.   The the first, really, the first thing I knew about him is that he'd been shot. I've gotta be honest. So boy is my finger not on the pulse of the world.   And I'm kinda glad about that, really being honest because most of it is   Kabuki Theater.  

Mhmm.   But, obviously,   this alleged   assassination   occurred. I did see the footage. It looked it looked look. I'm gonna put it this way. I my sent my mate sent me the footage   of the actual assassination because it was all over social media Yeah.   For obvious reasons because nowadays, that's what happens.   I'm not. So my mate sent me the the video.   I said, who is this guy anyway? And he he said, oh, look, mate. You you just just have a look at the video.   I had a look at the video. And do you know what? The first thing I said because you know what? I think about all these sort of assassinations. Like, for instance, the the the Trump assassination or, like, when they nicked his ear with a with a with a bullet or or they put a blood sponge on his ear. I don't know. Whatever.  

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A well a well placed a well placed sniper shot to make it look authentic. That's what I think it came down to.  

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Yeah.   I don't know. I just thought if the c yeah. With that Trump thing. Right? So I suppose we can cover a bit of it. With that Trump thing, the amount of iconic photographs of him punching his fist in the air while all his secret service were cowered around his waist to get the camera so that the camera got his face in, etcetera, etcetera. Whereas, really, they should have been pushing him to the floor going, no. Stay down, mister president. Well well well, that's that's that's what I was talking about. Like, when it comes to his ear, it was just a well placed shot. You know, these snipers, they they're even taught  

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how to breathe, how to hold their breath, and, slow their heart rate down so that they can get a pristine   shot.   And, I dare say that, he knew it was coming. They said they probably said to him in an earpiece or something like that, alright. The shot's coming. It's gonna nick your ear, so just be prepared. Just stay still.   And you take a look at him. He was staying perfectly still while   he was talking at that moment, and bam. He gets hit in the ear. So it wouldn't surprise me if it was all rigged.  

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Yeah. So what do you say that it that you still think he's alive, Sean?  

[00:34:39] Unknown:

Oh, no. No. No. We were talking about we were talking about Trump. Oh, sorry. Sorry. Okay. Yeah. To Trump. Yeah. When I said it would have done far more for his political or far it it would have helped us far more with his political career if they'd have just shot his two pay off. That would have been far more fun.   But, no, going back to this going back to so I always treat these things with a bit of skepticism.   And the first thing I said when I saw the footage   because it was quite horrific, the footage. Do you do you wanna tell the listeners what the footage showed? Oh, well, the initial footage that I got sent was,   a camera angle from directly in front of the stage,   and you hear a shot ring out and,  

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essentially Down he goes. Crumples in.  

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Yeah. He crumples into his seat a little bit, and as he ejects from his seat,   he ejects from his seat   shortly shortly,   after about a a liter and a half of blood ejected from his his neck.   It was not pleasant viewing.  

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And then all his security guards   dived on him.  

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Yeah.   And dragged him actually underneath the stage and pulled the curtain down over the back of the stage,   which is that's an that's an interesting thing. But that that was from the other bit of footage I got sent, later in the week. But, anyway, so that that's what occurred. That and that's what I saw in front of me. And do you know what the first thing I said was?   Is,   well, at least they got you know, because I I'm always skeptical and and, you know, I I so I don't wanna offend anyone, but I'm always skeptical. I said, well, at least they got the blood right because when they shot Ashley Babbitt in the neck, there was, like, literally just, like, a sponges worth of blood on the floor. You get hit in the neck. All your   so many major arteries, etcetera, etcetera, are running through your neck,   Specifically, the jugular on the left hand side.  



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In all fairness though in all fairness though, it depends on what,   bullet you're using. If you've got hollow tips, it makes a much bigger mess. If you've got Yes. I know. But if you get hit in the neck, the amount of pressure  

[00:36:37] Unknown:

Oh, yeah. In your body, blood pressures in your body. Because I said I said with Ashley Babbitt, you know, that was the storming of the Capitol and the girl that got shot and blah. I said there's not nearly enough blood there. That was my first thing. That's my first thought process. So so when I saw this assassination of Charlie Kirk, I I honestly said I said to my mate, oh, well, at least they got the blood right this time.   Yeah. So that's how I mean, I know it sounds cold and it sounds callous, but you know what? I have you you know, you guys both know, probably loads of the listeners know that, you know, you have all this stuff put in front of you all the time. The first thing you gotta do is like like, for instance, the plane's going into the two towers and then collapsing. The first thing you gotta ask yourself  

[00:37:19] Unknown:

is, oh, is this is what I'm looking at real? So I tend to look at everything very skeptically to start off with. Right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But that's you. That's you. That's Shelley. That's myself and and people like Paul English and, Andy Hitchcock. But most people don't question that. Most people don't look at it and say, is this real? They look at it and just go, oh,   a a plane just flew into the towers. That's how we we've gotta think of it on a level   where I'm not trying to be pretentious, but the thing is we've gotta think of it on a level where not everybody thinks like you and I.  

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Yeah. Well, I'd you know, I I automatically assume that they don't, and I'm always the weird one. I I get that. But, you know, so the the first thing I thought is, you know, god. At least they got the blood right. And then afterwards, it it was just what a horrible thing to say because I do genuinely actually now think that he probably did die. Yeah.   But,   you know, without going into the whole political thing   and the whole,   without going into the whole political thing or the conspiratorial thing and who's in control of what and blah blah blah. Without even touching on any of that, I got sent a bit of footage,   this week by Misha Popoff, and it was actually I'll give everyone the,   the address for it.  

So it is rents.com,   rense,.com/general98forwardslash,   all capital letters now,   murder-weapon.php.   So I'll just repeat that for the sake of the audience that are listening live. Rense.com,   rents.com/general98forwardslash,   all capital letters now,   murder-weapon.php.   So I got sent that little bit of footage.   There's a there's an explanation underneath it, which I think is fairly plausible.   But after watching the footage so this this footage allegedly shows   a gunman   that was part of the security   service. In fact, was part of the entourage that helped carry the body away.   And it appears   that he's got,   what they call a palm pistol or the something   tucked into his hand with just the nozzle showing out from between his middle two fingers. They're smaller than a Glock. Yeah. Yeah.  

Yeah. They're tiny. They're absolutely tiny. They were made back in the eighteen seventies, I think. So that, you know, grandma could keep them in her handbag and feel safe, you know,   that kind of thing. Guns back then, they were so beautifully ornate and that kind of thing. You know, you'd you'd buy a lady's gun. It would, you know, all be mother of pearl inlaid and blah blah blah. They could fit it in their purse.   Yeah.   So,   this bit of footage shows this security guy,   who, as I say, eventually is the guy that is   leading the team to take the body away.  

And it it shows him essentially   leaning against one of the fence rails.   And   just before the shot rings out, you see he adjusts the position of his left hand.   His wrist forms an arc   to brace himself   against the post.   In one, and this is what put me in absolute awe if this is a if this is a real thing.   In one really fluid motion,   he turns his head, brings this little palm pistol up, rests it on his bicep,   bicep, squeezes it,   puts it down   below his bicep, and I think possibly tucks it into his shirt, whatever,   and pulls his hand out.  

And it's not you know? And while this is going on, the the audience behind him are in, like,   absolute shock. Most of them are, in the process of turning away because there's been this big column of blood.   And   as, you know, as he pulls back out his hand,   this left hand that formed for me formed some sort of brace or anchor against the recoil of the weapon,   doesn't relax   releases that little grip that he's got on the post, puts both hands on the railing, and jumps over to go and get the body.   Really, actually, quite a compelling bit of footage. I've sent it to you guys. I just wondered what your so that's I've just given away completely what my analysis is on it.   It does look   the the the thing that I will say is   that if it's a real   thing,   which, you know, everything is in sync, everything  

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it it it looks real to me. I'm I'm, like, 95% sure. Percent sure. Yeah. It looks real to me. I had to watch it a few times and, like, pause it on the five seconds to kind of, like, put it all together. But I've seen so many   of these videos and these ideas. And just this morning, somebody had shared, like, a camera in the corner that they were convinced was a hologram projector.   I just love it because everybody, like, turns into detectives, don't they, when things like this happen? Bloody keyboard warriors. But yeah. Yeah.   But some no. It's interesting.  

Interesting. Definitely. But, no, that was,   quite a video to be fair.  

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Yeah. Yeah. And what did you think, Sean? I've only your sort of over What's your what's your overview on the whole sort of scenario?  

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I've only watched the video once, so you two are more professional on this than what I am.   But I saw him go down. I I heard the shot ring out, and he went down,   and he sort of he slightly reached upwards trying to work out what's going on with himself,   as you would.   Then the   all the security jumped on top of him.   I haven't watched it any more than that. I said to you and,   Rhinelander,   yesterday that I've gotta check it out more.   I've been doing a lot more recordings out in town   at the moment because there's so many police around,   so it's kept me busy. But,   I will get to watching it a bit more. At the moment,   I do think he died. I think what happens is, remember, he was,   he was a crypto. He was a crypto Jew. Now this is not coming from Shelly, and this is not coming from Maleficus, ladies and gentlemen. This is coming from me. So they can't get themselves into trouble. So what happens is,   he was a crypto Jew as far as I'm concerned because he was hiding under Catholicism   and acting as an evangelist at one stage.  

And he was guarding Israel hell and,   and,   Judaism,   and he agreed with the Jewish Zionism and everything like that. And then when people started waking up to what he was doing, he thought, alright. I'm gonna backflip.   So what he did is he he turned tail,   and then,   of course, Israel,   would have hired the the Mossad to pop him off plain and simply. So I I do think he died, and I think that's why I think the the Jews had him killed because they just couldn't have him saying what he started to say. He was he was turning tail.  

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I've heard that also. Yeah. I've heard that he was asking, you know, he was, drawing attention to,   certain people funding certain things Yeah. And that, you know, he wanted to shine a spotlight on that.  

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So He was actually shining a spotlight. He was actually shining a spotlight on it in the end.   He was starting off in a light fashion, and they can't have that. They he was going to college   areas, you know, uni students, and starting to talk against what he was normally guarding,   and they couldn't have that. So I think, yeah, they had him shot.  

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Yeah. Interesting.   Very.  

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Yeah. Interesting indeed. Yeah. Yeah. Crazy days. Absolutely crazy days. So, yeah, I didn't wanna spend too much because, obviously, everyone is gonna you know, the amount of Charlie Kirk videos and conspiracy videos out on the net now. You know, this is this was gonna cause the shitstorm that it has. The one the last thing I'll say personally on the subject is that, obviously, there was this huge sort of remembrance   pageantry   thing that took place with   some pastor   and his and,   Charlie Kirk's wife and Donald Trump. They all gave speeches.   And,   this is this is just just a point that my missus made. Right?  

If my husband had died, not that she's got one because we're not married, but if my   died,   there's no way I would have gone out on that stage   in front of all those people looking so immaculate   with such a well put together speech. It was an act.   She said, I would be covered in snot saying I don't forgive the bastard.  

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Yep. So It was it was it was an act. And by the way, you are married because you've been together for so many years, and,   you've had children together. As far as I'm concerned, you guys are married.   But the thing is, you're you're absolutely right. This whole thing was an act. The first thing I said to my daughter, we were sitting there and I said, hey, Beth. Take a look at this. Tell me that's a person,   that isn't acting.   She was acting all the way. He Charlie Kirk's wife was acting all the way. Tears. Yep. Yep. Wrapping the fake tears. Yep. It wasn't real. It was not real.   You know, she's whether it's because of his life insurance policy or or whatever,   that she's happy about, but she was not she did not look upset to me at all. She looked like somebody out of Days of Our Lives Days of Our Lives. Sorry.  

Right? She   she sorry, Shelley. I'm not I'm I'm trying my best not to I'm trying my best not to not to stay in your show.   But, yeah, that she looked like something out of Days of Our Lives. You know?   So no. I I I straight away, I bit down on that. I said, hey, Beth. Have a look at this, Darwin. Have a look at this. There's no way that that is not acting. And she was like, yeah. I know, dad.  

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Yeah. A few people have said that, actually.  

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Yeah. Very interesting. Is is is he is he actually dead? Did they bundle him under that little stage there so that he can   yeah. Are you alright? Yeah. Yeah. I'm alright. Yeah. I just have to get this stuff. Hard to know. Hard to know. But the thing is,  

[00:47:54] Unknown:

whether he's dead or not,   it's the same thing that's going on with this Desi character over here. Whether he's dead or not, it's just holding up our time.   What so Yes. Yeah. You know what? I mean, he's gone no matter what. They're gonna if it let's say he's alive. They're gonna whisk him off to an ocean where he's gonna be fed grapes by beautiful   girls and everything like that, and he's gonna live happily ever after. But in the meantime, he's out of sight, out of mind, and leave it that that way. You know? I mean, let's have a little bit of entertainment with it saying, okay. He's with Epstein somewhere.   Yeah. Right. Right. Yeah. Exactly, Shelley. Like, for instance,   let's have a little bit of fun with it, with the entertainment of the idea that the bloke might be dead. I hope he is because he was a crypto as far as I'm concerned. But   if he's not, he's still out of sight, out of mind now. They're not gonna bring him back into,  

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into play, so to speak. No. No. Exactly that. And, you know, one of of the things the final thing on it for me. Sorry.   But final thing is during Trump's little address that he gave, and those they're all stood behind bulletproof glass as well.   Just for show. Just for show. You know? The bulletproof   class. Yeah. They were. They were all stood behind bulletproof class. Yeah. Yeah.   He said, you know, he said, I've I've heard a lot of things about,   you know, do it for Charlie. Do it for Charlie.   Yeah?   That's that's that was part of Trump's speech. I wonder what things they're gonna get the public to do for Charlie. Yeah. I know. Yeah.  

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Yeah. What's what's your whole take on it, Shelley? I've I've gotta know. You you you know, you because your silence raises my curiosity. But,   and also remind me to talk about the, penis junkie, the the the because I don't wanna use   the harsh terms I would normally use, like, sea sucker.   The the, the the the the guy that, put you up on Facebook, well, I've got a comment on him, but I wanna know your thoughts. Your your silence is deafening.   I've got to yes. It is. I've gotta know what you think about the whole Kirk thing.  

[00:50:04] Unknown:

To be honest with you, I'm a bit like Maleficos. I didn't really know who he was until that happened.   And then I've watched little bits and stuff like that, but I'm I'm pretty convinced that he's dead.   But the whole Epstein thing, you see, I don't think he's dead. Just because it was done under our eyes doesn't mean   I don't know. I'm in the middle of it. I can't, you know, see in that video, I would say he's dead.  

[00:50:28] Unknown:

Right. Yeah. Yeah. But I don't know enough about the politics about him and stuff like that, so that's why I'm quite quiet about it. But it's probably it's probably the difference between you, myself, and Maleficos is that I've watched this guy for a couple of years now. And Yeah. One of the things I've continuously said about him is if he is if he keeps   defending Israel,   university   students. They still haven't matured in mind yet. So, of course, he's going to outwit them.   He and then, of course, it makes him look like he's some form of really good intelligent person.   But really, if he was to debate   somebody like yourself, Maleficus, or I, who are adults and have matured in mind,   it would be a totally different ballgame, but he never did. He only just like Ben Shapinius Shapiro, he only debated   he   gotten to know what life is really about. That's the biggest thing I always had against him.  



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Yeah. Fair comment.   Like I said, I just don't know enough about him. Part of me wishes I did, but like you say, it's, there's too many people out there, and we're just we can waste our times and all of these people. There's there's so many of them that I'm unsure of. Some of them Yeah. They speak the speak. They walk the walk, don't they? And you think I could quite believe,   I think you're coming from your heart, but then I'm always in two minds. I'm just suspicious of everyone. Oh, come on, Shelley. We know you love Tommy Robinson.  

[00:52:13] Unknown:

I do not.  

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I do like some of the things he says and things, but I'm also convinced he's not with us at all. You know? Yeah. I don't ever share any positive things from, you know, what other people say because I just think I don't know enough. You you need to Not enough to support him. You need to bash him for that one, Shelley. If you ever see if you ever see him now again in face to face, give him a good slapping.   I know. I know. He might enjoy it.  

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Oh, yeah. But but before you we move on, yeah, this person that put you up on Facebook because you had something to say about the towers to your what it was a granddaughter if I'm not mistaken? Oh, yeah. Chemtrails. Yeah. Yeah. The the yeah. The whole chemtrail thing. Now, as I was talking with Maleficus and Rhinelander   just yesterday,   one of the things I can,   give proof to is that I have a friend named Andrew, and he was in the air force for many years.   And he said straight out he said, you're damn right. We were spraying,   chemtrails,   which means trails with chemicals in them. It's not just contrails. This is not condensation.  

And he said straight out, he said, yeah. We were we're spraying them. I'll send you some photos. He sent me some photos. And, Raul Munda was absolutely right in what he was saying when he said, you can't use a commercial airplane. There's no way. You wouldn't have the room. These these beasts that they use, these absolute huge beasts of aircraft   are   huge. You can actually carry tanks in them. They're massive.   And they had all of these chemical tanks, and they were spraying   Aladdin Degenerate Show,   and he said straight out, he said, oh, no. There's definite definite spraying.   It's called cloud seeding.  

And,   the reason we do it the the reason   sun. And then even Al Gore himself, you know, the grandfather of global warming,   he said straight out,   we shouldn't be doing this. We shouldn't be covering up the sun. We need the sun for vitamin d and all sorts of things to grow plants and blah blah blah. Even Al Gore himself came out and said it, that they were indeed cloud seeding. So for this,   this, penis junkie that was putting you up on   Facebook,   he needs to just shut his mouth and get his facts right. Because even the people,   that,   we know are frauds like Al Gore,   were coming out and actually saying it on the Ellen DeGeneres Show, then, yes, we are spraying things and we shouldn't be doing it. So he needs to get his facts right before he starts putting people's pictures up there. And by the way, he's not safeguarded.  

He might be behind a keyboard,   but there's been people like me and others that have traveled across to different countries   and offered up ring time, saying, I'll pay for the ring time as long as you're willing to get in the ring instead of sitting behind your screen. So we might wanna think of that too.  

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Crikey.   I wish I had your fighting spirit, Sean.  

[00:55:23] Unknown:

Don't don't be afraid of him. Don't don't don't be No. Afraid of him. I just feel like I've had a right  

[00:55:29] Unknown:

telling off.   You know, I don't know. I just feel a bit sick in my stomach. No. No. You've done because I just You've done nothing wrong. I don't like pee no. I know. I was having a bit of fun. I thought it was fun anyway. Well, it's a it's a lot you know, what you did was a lot  

[00:55:42] Unknown:

it wasn't nearly as bad as the the woman trying to get her little baby to say blackcurrant   on video.  

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Oh.  

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Go look it up, folks. Anyway, look. We're coming very, very close to the top of the hour. You're you're listening to the Shelley Tasker Show. The guests   are myself   and, Sean Surplus.   I I suppose I'm not really a guest, am I? I'm here every You're not a guest. Co The cohost is is mister Scott and our brilliant guest, Sean Surplus.   I'm gonna play the other tune you sent me, Shelley. Is is that good?  

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I think it is. It's by a friend of mine called Roof Moonchild.   We played one of her songs last week. So Yeah. No. I I enjoyed that one. I'm looking to mama. Yeah. It's quite nice. See see you in,  

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see you after the break, folks. See you in a few minutes.  

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Why is it that you   always   cross  

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my mind?  

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What a beautiful voice that lady has. She has. She's a beautiful person as well. Inside and out. Yeah. So that's Inside   and out. Yeah. So that's Ruth   Moonchild.  

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Has she got a website?  

[00:57:28] Unknown:

No. I don't think she has, actually.   I don't know, Maleficus.   I just see her stuff pop up on Facebook. She's been a guest guest before on the show a couple of years ago,   but, yeah. She's a good old writer,   composer, everything. One of those very talented people.  

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Oh, don't you just hate them? Yes.   Definitely.   Oh, man.   So, Sean, are you still with us?  

[00:57:54] Unknown:

I'm still with you, sir.  

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Yeah. Sir?   Sir? Sir? What's going on with with Desi? Now,   for for those listeners that aren't aware,   Desi is,   basically,   a a a chap that was served a a warrant a couple of what? Couple of months ago now or about six weeks ago? Yeah. Roughly. Yeah.   He was served a warrant for a previous sexual offense at which point   he shot two of the issuing officers   with a shotgun   and managed to catch a a third officer   in the legs, was it? Something like that Yeah. With the overspray. Killed   two cops, two two Aussie cops,   one just a week off of retirement, one 35 years old with a, you know, young family, etcetera, etcetera.  

And he has so  

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he's been on the loose actually ever since. Went on the run, didn't he? Can I just clear this? Is this the guy that you were talking about when Sean was on a few weeks ago, and he said it was all like systems go. It happened near him? Yes. Right. Okay. Right. I'm up to date. Okay.  

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Yeah. So is he still on the loose? He's still on the loose. The biggest   a couple of red flags for me is that where's the body cam,   the Axon cam? Now the Axon cam, for people who don't know, is it's a camera that is on the chest of the police officers,   and it's they can hit record anytime they want. Now there were 10 police officers that went out there. Three of them issued the warrant. The two got shot, and then one got sprayed in the leg through through through shotgun spray. Right? Pallet spray.   But where's the axon cam? I really wanna know. So you've got seven seven other cops   that take off off after this guy because he he takes off to the bushlands,   and then just apparently just   disappears.  

And there's no axon cam on this, and I wanna know why. I wanna know why this wasn't filmed.   Because so far, I've seen nothing   when it comes to any camera footage   chasing this guy down. Now let's look at this for a second.   When I was getting pulled up for not wearing a helmet,   one of the senior constables   pulled the camera off his chest and the red light is going, and he faces it towards me. He says, why aren't you wearing a helmet? Right? Now, if he can feel me for not wearing a bicycle helmet, we're not talking about a motorbike helmet here. We're talking about a bicycle helmet where I'm doing 15 kilometers an hour because I've got 60 liters of water on the back.   Right?  

And he can film me for not wearing a a bicycle helmet. Why aren't we seeing axon cam footage   of what this what's happened to this dude? Now,   it makes me think that they because he may have shot these cops,   that they shot him directly and then just dumped his body somewhere. So that's why they're not showing any camera footage.   Or,   the for some   reason, they just didn't have their cameras on, which makes no sense to me at all. So there's red flags that go up. But do I think that he killed these cops? I think so.   Whether he they called it historical   child abuse,   in the end.  

If he thinks he's gonna go to prison, whether he did it or not   is irrelevant. He knows if he's gonna go to prison because he caused a lot of, trouble around,   this part of this this neck of the woods,   and they probably wanted to see him disappear.   The thing is if,   even if he didn't do any historical   child abuse, sexual child abuse,   he's still not gonna wanna go to, remand or prison because he knows what the prison is gonna do to him if they think that he actually did do it.   So,   you know, it's got me at the moment, I'm all up in arms about it. I'm thinking, alright. Is he dead in a cave somewhere? Did he blow his own head off? Like, we heard some gunshots just the other night,   and we reported it. We basically said, hey. There's some gunshots going off. You might wanna check that out. I don't know whether you cops are are killing him or whether he's killing himself.  

But then,   yeah, yeah, like, at the moment, I don't know what's going on. But he's to this day, he has reportedly not been found.   Wow. So And as you know, Mel, as you They're usually pretty quick, aren't they, to find somebody like that? Oh, absolutely. They've got thermograph. They've got the whole lot. They've got whole kit and caboodle. Now if he's, like, out and out in caves,   he'd wanna have a huge food cache.   Now he's either being,   housed by somebody   that knows him   or he's dead. As far as I'm concerned, they're the only two options because there's no amount of food cash   that you could have in   even a few caves that will keep him alive this long, especially up here in the old pines. It's freezing.  

Freezing cold. You go into a cave,   right, if you or if you go into some of the mines around this area, it is   freezing.   There's there's no way. He's either dead   or he's being housed somewhere.  

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Right. Right.  

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Thank you, detective Sean. And and I I I'm no detective. I'm just what looking at what I see.   Yeah. Yeah. That was great. Yeah. And Mel, as you know, I was shaken down for it. You as you know, the detectives and the,   I I sent Mel the video, by the way. Shelly, if you want a copy of it, I can send it to you too. They they shook me down. What happens is I walked out the front   and they said, Sean? And I said, who are you? And they said, Sean, because they turned up in two unmarked cars, one four wheel drive and and another vehicle.   And I thought, okay. This this could be Desi himself for all I know. So I armed myself, and I walked out there, and they they came down the driveway and they started asking me if I'm Sean.  

And then when they showed me that they were definitely cops, you know, they had the Glock nines on their side and everything like that. I said, said, alright. No worries. Well, I'm just letting you know I'm armed. And he goes, oh, you're armed. And he puts his hands out and goes, it's alright. It's okay. And then I pulled the,   arm out and I and he goes, can you throw it down on the ground for us? So I threw it down the ground. They said, have you got anything else? I said, no. He goes, can we pat you down? And I said, yeah, no problem. And you see it on the video. They pat me down.   And then they start asking me all kinds of weird ass questions because this dude, this Desi character,   had been on my property.  

As I was saying to Mel on your broadcast,   Shelley,   when he was filling it in for you on when you were on hiatus,   he it's straight out.   He   Ray that had his caravan out the back had invited this Desi character to his caravan a few times. So I've probably met the guy but didn't even know it. So they had all these questions for me, and I said, no. No. Hey. Look. If you think I'm hiding him, come in.   Come inside.   I said, it's bloody freezing out here. You know, I'm I'm a thin guy after the heart attack. Just come inside.   They said, no. No. No. It's cool. He went and spoke to his sergeant, came back in, and it was all fine.  

Yeah.  

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Yeah.   Crikey me. Well, thank yeah. Thanks for the update anyway.   Shelley, I've got a few, sound bites here from you. Do you wanna cover some of them?  

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Yeah. We can do quickly. You've you've only got   a a very short amount of time left, my darling. I know. Well, I always think I don't worry because there's all the stuff we can cover next week. But,   under the story of conspiracy   theories,   was you aware that yesterday was supposedly to be the rapture of the church?  

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Oh, I wasn't aware it was yesterday.  

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What about you, Sean?   I've What happened to me? I didn't know. No. I'm unaware. Oh, it it was it was a viral yesterday because   there was a guy, pastor Joshua   Michaela.   I don't think I've spout pronounced his surname right, but he basically,   he's been,   promoting it everywhere that it was gonna happen yesterday,   and I'd never really heard of the rapture before.   And I do like things like that, but these people have just been going nuts that are really believing in it.   They've been trying to sell their cars and stuff like that.  

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Anyway, there's two videos. One is of Probably a Rothschild buying them all after a pence on the phone.  

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But don't worry about the first one. If you play the short one, it's just a second one. It's a guy giving his input on it. It. What's what's the name of it? I have, Hang on. Let me have a look here. Rapture or pasta?   It is rapture. We won't worry about the pasta's one, but because of the pasta one, he's basically just been everywhere   telling telling everybody this this was gonna happen on the twenty third.   There's just so many funny videos going around on social media   about what people are doing. And, I mean, there's videos as well. I I again, I don't know how true they are because we're so we are just so stuck in an age of, is this true? Is this not true?   But it was believed to be in the woods yesterday and all these people with their arms up waiting for God to call them up and stuff like that.  

Totally nuts.   But office at the end of it. Did they all go, like, well well, should we go home now? No. I know. This is it. I I haven't had a chance to check out what people think today because it didn't happen. And, obviously, we've gone through all of these moments in time when, like,   the year February, the world was gonna end and other things like that. But the rapture is a pretty rapture is a pretty biblical thing, isn't it? But That was the rapture. The rapture was the And it doesn't yeah. It doesn't state in the bible when this is gonna happen, but this guy has prophesized it. Anyway, it didn't happen, but there was just this one guy, his reaction. I just found it quite funny. So it's only a minute long. Alright. I'm gonna I'm gonna play it now. Hold hold tight, folks.  

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The Americans, I think they're losing their plot. They are convinced. I don't know if you guys have seen it. They are convinced that a rapture is gonna happen on the September 23. The sky is gonna open up and they're gonna go, zoo, into heaven.   You guys need to stop watching Scooby Doo because these conspiracies are fucking crazy. I'm still trying to figure out how my hoover collects dirt off the floor, and you guys are you guys are convinced that the sky is gonna open up and select you as an individual and go, zoop, your big body,   zoop into heaven. These people are selling their houses, their cars, and everything. I mean, I don't know how far the dollars are gonna get you once you sell it. I don't think heaven has a currency, but I can look after your money on the terms that if you don't go or if you do decide to come back, then you you're not entitled to your money back. I'm sorry, but you guys are fucking nuts, mate. Listen, the least of my worries will be something fucking collecting me from the sky. Right? Do you need to be concerned   mate. And, also, why is it just America? Is that the only place they could put in on the sat nav? America.  

I'm gonna be honest. I have never met people that have fallen into manipulation   with their own doing.   They're manipulating themselves.   I'm scared that you guys are the aliens at this point.  

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That's a great clip.   Yeah. But when when when it talk when he's talking about, I've never known people to be so manipulated,  

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certificate of vaccination ID? Yeah? You know what they are? I just found it entertaining because, well, these conspiracy theories and people were so up for it. And some people are crying. There's videos,  

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theories and people were so up for it. And some people are crying. There's videos of them crying saying, you know, I love you all, and if I don't go, well,   I don't know.   It's just hilarious.  

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Here's here's one for you, Shelley. Here's one for you, Shelley.   A mate of mine, when it come to the,   quote, unquote, 2,000 rapture, it was 1999,   and he goes, oh, are we all gonna die, Sean? I said, we're not gonna die. We're not going we're gonna be fine. There's there's no such thing. And he's like, oh, I'm not so sure. I'm not so sure. And he was he was a bit weird because he was on some drugs that he shouldn't have been. And, he said straight out to me, he said, well, I'm not so sure. He lost his virginity that night. He he he ran out at the last moments of 1999,   and he hire he went to a hooker place in a place called Lavington,   and he got laid. And he came back and he goes, oh, I just had to do it. I had to do it. I said, you had to do what? He said, I had to get laid. He said, because I'm I didn't wanna die a virgin. I said, a virgin is just a state of being. Wait. What are you worried about? And he goes, yeah. But I wanted the feeling. I said, well, you got the feeling. I said, but you're not gonna die. And then, of course, 2,000   came. I said, you're still here. I said, and now you lost your virginity to a hooker. I said, well done. Well done, Sam.  



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How did you got syphilis?  

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Happy New Year. Yeah.  

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It was a happy New Year for him. Yeah. That's for sure.   Oh my god. And and and him and I crazy stuff. Him and I laugh about it now. We just laugh about it. Like, I said, yeah, I told you. I told you. And the next rapture that comes, don't go get a hooker. Just go down the pub and pick up or something like that. Although, you probably still pick up the same diseases, but at least you're doing it doing it authentically.  

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Oh, I love it. I love all these crazy things. I mean, I love parts of the Bible as well, and and it does fascinate me, and I do wonder if anything like that might happen in our lifetime.  

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Who knows? Who absolutely knows? I I I look at the Bible I look at the Bible as this. It it has got some really good interesting philosophies.   Do I do I take it as scripture? Pun intended. No. I don't. But but the thing is, there's a lot of interesting things you can learn from the Bible, but there's a lot of things you can learn from Chicken Little too. That's how I look at the Bible. You you you know?  

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Yeah. Fair play. Fair play. Well, that was that little one. And then just this one. And I mean, we won't worry about the six minute clip, but,  

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it's over there next week.  

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Well, we might have moved on by then, but don't worry. This one will be enough. But basically,   in parliament,   they the MPs were debating a ban on first cousin marriages. Okay?   Right. So then,   an,   a Muslim   MP,   Iqbal Mohammed,   has been defending it. Okay?  

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So if you wanna play that MP speech, this is what he says in parliament. All all I'm gonna say is, you know, just just my 2p worth before we before we play the clip, and that is it worked for the royal family for for for eons.  

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Well, this is the subject of debate. Is it moral or is it immoral?   But, yeah. Listen listen to what he has to say. You know what? Yeah. Yeah. I'm not gonna cut. I'll just listen.  

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35 to 50% of all sub Saharan African populations   either prefer or accept cousin marriages, and it is extremely common in The Middle East and in South Asia.   The reason the practice is so common is that ordinary people   see family   intermarriage overall as something that that is very positive,   something that helps build family bonds   and helps put families   on a more secure   financial foothold. I would therefore urge the house to vote against this motion and to find a more positive approach.  

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That's it, really.   But,   I just find it very interesting because the m MPs   that are debating this,   that want it, you know,   totally got rid of because it has been, I believe, it's gonna happen in Switzerland, several countries. It's illegal to marry your first cousin.   But the MPs   are debating it because of the implications on the NHS   that if you have a baby with a first cousin, then obviously it's genetic   problems that arise.   And if it's double the double the chances, basically.   So actually do play that six minute clip, Maleficus, because she'll say everything that will save me going into it. It's quite interesting. Just different ways to look at it. I'll play it now. I will play it now. Here we go.  

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Spend a lot more time on this now, and there has been a lot of talk this week about first cousin marriage. Richard Holden MP stood up in the house and called for it to be banned in a private member's bill. And, yes,   it is still legal to marry your first cousin in The UK. There have been various oppositional arguments that range from the state shouldn't be involved in these decisions.   Through to this is an attack on minority ethnic groups.   For me, neither of these have any merit at all. Marriage is governed by the state. It needs to be carried out in state approved buildings,   by state approved people, meeting state approved rules. And within that, there are already rules where it's illegal to marry a sibling or a parent. So the state is already involved, and there are rules. So it's not too hard to just add first cousins to the list. In terms of targeting minority groups, what can I say?  

I'm sorry that this might might upset your sensibilities, and I understand that you may have done this for centuries,   from wherever you may have came. But we've evolved,   and we've discovered things, and we've put the safeguarding and protection of children   over medieval rituals. I'm not gonna apologize for that. So let's not ignore the fact that these marriages are often arranged   rather than two cousins falling madly in love, and I am happy to point out that the cultures involved,   whilst often Muslim, also include   Orthodox Jewish, some Orthodox Jewish communities,   and traveler communities, and it may also involve some others. And I I apply this to all of them. It needs to stop. So let's look at the clear data first. First cousin marriages   are far more likely than any other permitted marriage to produce a child   with severe disabling and often life limiting disease.  

These are called recessive genetic disorders.   Many of us carry one defective gene for a disease. Sickle cell anemia,   cystic fibrosis are two very common examples.   And as long as we someone who doesn't carry the same defective gene,   the disease will not be seen in our children.   The problem arises when the person we have children with also carries the same defective gene.   And then there's no way out. It's much more likely, of course, that a close family member will be carrying the same defective gene as you. So it's why we can't marry our parent or our brother. Simples, really. As we develop communities in The UK that bring with them   traditions of the past designed primarily to keep family wealth intact, we have no legislation to say no to them. The problem is manifested itself in The UK with children who are destined for a life of misery   and pain often never leaving hospital   or spending much of their time there, placing unimaginable   strain on families   and their other children and costing   recent BBC report for Newsnight found that British Pakistani communities   had three percent of all births in The UK,   but are responsible for just under a third of all children born with disabilities.  

This means that they are 13 times more likely   to have a child with a disability than the general population.   It was found that in Birmingham,   where forty nine percent of mothers,   forty nine percent   are married to a close relative,   one in ten children from those marriages dies in infancy,   or develops a serious lifelong disability.   One of the most thorough and detailed reports into the problem was funded by the NHS. It was called the Enhanced Genetic Services Project,   and it showed that in Birmingham in 2009   to 02/2010,   the combined infant and stillbirth   and death rate   definitely are probably due to genetic disorders   resulting from Pakistani   cousin parents   was thirty eight times that amongst white European babies in Birmingham.  

I've experienced a devastating result of first cousin marriages in a London hospital with a large Pakistani community where I trained on the wards.   These children who are often unable to speak, are fed through tubes, can be ventilated,   are being looked after by the NHS for months, even years,   often never going home. It's a miserable life that we should not be bringing on children when we can prevent it. For the children who do go home, the care needed is astronomical   from daily nursing, doctor's appointments, transport to and from hospital,   special scores, all already struggling to cope. The list goes on, and the cost to the child is unquantifiable.  

But the cost to the taxpayer   is also crippling.   So surely it's a no brainer. Stop it today. But no.   Independent MP, Iqbal Mohammed,   stood in the houses of parliament this week to argue against Richard Holden.   He accepts the causing disability   in children is this is the cause, that it may involve forced marriage, but he wants to keep the law as it is and embark on an education   program.   What a disgrace   that a British MP in the British parliament can acknowledge   the pain and suffering being inflicted   on children,   but would argue for a medieval practice for no other reason, I assume,   than to protect his vote at the next election. It's outrageous.  

It speaks to the non assimilation of communities   that is dividing the country into silos   rather than the blended multicultural community of people who accept and live by British norms and values   that we desire. By not talking about these issues, we will never change it. We will never protect children, and the status quo will continue. We've seen this already with the abuse of young girls. Let's stop this misery and disability   that's been inflicted on children   by just saying you can't marry your first cousin.   It's so simple.  

There you go. I said I would do a deep dive into it as the data for you.  

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There we are. Interesting.  

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Interesting.  

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It is very interesting.   Yeah. I like the weird and wonderful things. I mean, moral or immoral?   To me, it's I mean just immoral.  

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Yeah. No. I do you shouldn't marry your cousin. This is I'm I'm not being funny.   You know, there's there's something you you grow up with you a lot of people grow up with their cousins. That's a little bit incestual for me,   I have to say.   Yeah. Having said that, I know a guy who actually   I went to school with a guy who did end up getting together with his cousin.   They fell out with all their family because of it. All of them.  

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Yeah. It's not just it's not just genetic. It's also,   psychological.   You know? There's there's a lot of psychological value that goes into that. I I I said it with you on   Shelley's show when whilst she was in high during her hiatus   where I said, you know, some women have humpable voices. So when I listen to Shieldmaiden,   I think to myself,   oh, she sounds beautiful. I I love that sound. So why don't I just fly to The States and her and I   can, you know, get it on?   Then   and we did we did a bit of that. But the thing is,   you know, you listen to Shelley. She's got that accent as well. She talks about us two guys that have these, what she calls, adorable accents, but yet I listen to Shelley and I think,   she's got so what so why wouldn't people why wouldn't people just fly to the country of their choice and say, you know what? You have such a beautiful voice. Can we just base a, sexual   relationship on that for a while instead   of humping your first cousin? It it doesn't make any sense to me. There's no need for humping first cousins, second cousins, or third.  



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No. No. I just found it really interesting, but, obviously, he's Muslim,   and they want to bring their cultures into The UK. Yeah.   Yeah. I just found it really fascinating, and, obviously, the opposing side is the costs on the NHS because it doubles the,   chances  

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of genetic problems and stuff like that. Oh, by the way by the way, Shelley by the way, Shelley, before you go, because I heard that you're you're gonna be leaving at the bottom of the hour.   Uh-huh. The the,   the song that you chose, You're the Voice, trying to understand it, that was actually originally done by John Farnham over here in Australia.   And,   but the the girls that, did the remake, they did pretty good. They did they did pretty good at that. Yeah. I love that song. And,  

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yeah, try you obviously, we gotta be careful what we play, but covers were allowed. So,   yeah, awesome song. Anyway, with that boys, with the gorgeous voices, I do have to go. A lady's gotta go and earn a living.   Thank you for your company, both of you. And, I will be back next week. Thank you. It's been an absolute pleasure. Take care, and I hope it goes quick, darling. Oh, it will.   I'll be sleeping   soon. You're right, my lovelies. You enjoy the rest of the evening. Good talking with you, Shelley. Yep. Take care, boys. Bye bye, and listeners.  

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Right. Well, folks, you are listening to Shelley Tasker Show. It is radiosoapbox.com.   And also, you are listening to   a very, very honored and special guest, Sean Surplus.   We're gonna be right back after this break. This is Sea of Life by  

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Moulay.  

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Pretty soon you're gonna walk on by, and you'll know why it's time to turn it. Today, I saw the eyes that held a life. They say it's perfect.   That's where you taste the air. The moment's   So lead singer. Hey. Fun fact, folks.   Lead singer was a guy I went to school with. He wrote the song and, I think did most of the parts himself, actually, apart from the drumming and the bass lines.   Nice. So it yeah. And was actually   the lead singer of the first band I ever joined. So,   hence hence, his music ended up on my website. So all that comes from the Pure Original Archive. Again, I will say if anyone wants, to get hold of any of the stuff that I play on the show from the Pure Original Archive, just give me an email, and I'll point you in the right direction. So yeah. Welcome back, Sean. What'd you think of that one, mate? That was a beautiful song. Loved it. Absolutely loved it. As as you as you know,  

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I'm an avid,   purist when it comes to music.   Love composing it. Love playing it. Yeah. I've got so many instruments in this house. It's not funny. I just don't have a drum kit anymore, Mel. How sad is that? I'm I'm gutted, mate, because I really need some drums at the moment. Yeah.  

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I've got a mate here who who can play the drums really well, but it'd be nice to have a bit of input from you. I I guess I'm just gonna have to get some vocals off of you for my album, my up and coming album.   Yeah.   Yeah.   Yeah. I've I've not really you know, I I've sent you a few tunes actually, and and like I say, I think most of my most   of my lyrics are, you know, they're something that a lot   of my audience and your audience are probably gonna relate to just purely because   I'm touching on those subjects. You know?  

[01:25:36] Unknown:

Yeah. Yeah. You know, yeah, what what I want you to do, and I'm sure the audience will agree with this one, is that compile a whole list of,   links or send me a   whole crapload of,   your your   of what you've got going on, the recordings, so I can work with them.   As you know, I I get quite busy sometimes. So but if you send me all those links, what I can do is I can then  

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start working with them. Yeah. Yeah. I will I will do. Yep.   Yeah. So   oh, crikey. So, yeah, it's it's been a bit of a crazy week with all the sort of Charlie Kirk pageantry and all that kind of thing. Yeah. The pageantry. Pageantry.   Yeah. Well, no. He was. He was like watching It really was.   It really was. Never. Yeah. I've   never seen anything so staged in my entire life Yeah. I don't think. Yeah. It was  

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days of our lives.   Yeah. Days of our lived.  

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And the thing is, you know,   what what really frustrates me is is that people just cling on to little soundbites of what someone says. They don't care what their agenda is. Yeah. They don't care what, you know, they don't care what,   what policies they're gonna end up pushing.   They cling on to those little bits, those little things that mean something to them and say, well, he's for me. You know? And Trump going on about his fake news and this, that, and the other. It's no, you know,  

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it's no different. He's been doing this all the time. And As as Jimmy x said as Jimmy x once said sorry to cut you off, but I think you'll agree I think you'll agree with this.   As Jimmy x once said back in the days when him when him and I were on Oracle,   he said,   people are very selective on what they hear even even if they're not doing it consciously.   They're doing it subconsciously.   So so what they do is they listen to RadioLX. So they listen to TCTA or they listen to Shelley Tasker.   Right?   And what they basically do is they hear   racist   supremacist,   and they they they hear certain they're very selective hearing. People need to listen to a show and then go back and listen to it again. It's like watching a movie.  

When you watch a movie and then you go back and watch that movie a few times, you go, I didn't see that before. I didn't notice that I didn't notice that little Easter egg   right there.   We we have to watch this more, and then you go back and you watch,   you know, a a Stephen King film or something like that and say, I never saw that before. It's the same with,   with radio.   It doesn't matter whether it's main stream or otherwise.   You have to go back and listen to it, and then you'll get to realize just how false the main stream is compared to the alternative. But even in the alternative, you have to listen to it and know perfectly sure what you are hearing.   Don't just be selective on certain parts.  



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Yeah. And, also, you know, do your due diligence,   literally, and go and research what you've heard. Because if it goes if it goes against the grain, half the time,   people switch off. Absolutely. I don't like the sound of that. I don't I I I don't like the sound of that. That's Sean Surplus. He's he's he's a bit crass. He's a he's a bit   you know? Yeah.   But, you know, listen   One of my one of my best mates, back in the day said to me, he said, you know, if you enter a conversation without the idea that your own paradigm can be changed, then you're simply airing your views.  

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Exactly. Yeah. Statement,  

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you know.   And I, you know, I like to think that   you know, because a a lot of the celebrities have ended up dabbling in independent media.  

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Yeah. Kate  

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Katie, what's her name? The the one that, stood up at the Tommy Robinson speech. Can't remember. Yeah. Yeah. Katie,  

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otherwise, yeah. Yeah. Alright. We're we're both having a collective brain fart.  

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Yeah. Well,   because we don't pay any attention to her, so her name's unimportant. Yeah. That's right. Really. You know,   you know, her main point of education,   was actually Sandhurst. You know, if you look up her education, it just says Sandhurst Military Academy.   Sandhurst is the biggest military academy in The UK. So, you   know, we all know where she's coming from. Of course. Yeah. Whole thing that whole thing with Tommy Robinson a couple of weeks ago was just I it saddened me so much to see to see Pardon me.   Farce.  

Being used against them. They have all the people marching for all the right reasons, but they're guiding it in the way that they want it going. It was the whole thing was a farce. Farce. The weirdest the weirdest thing.   You know, they're all going on about, you know, Katie, whatever her name is, came up on stage and saying, this is what a London street should look like because, obviously, it was full of white faces. That's what she was insinuating.   Mhmm. Mhmm. Yet the entertainment was, ridiculously   multicultural.  



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Of course. Of course.  

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You know, you even had the fucking New Zealand oh, I've just sworn, haven't I? You even had the New Zealand,   Such language. Whatever it was.   Such language. Whatever it was, they came and did the hacker.   Yeah. That's what's that got to do with Britain.   You know what's gonna happen? All the people stood in the audience going, oh, yeah. This is great. Isn't it? Oh, look at them. They're they're showing their support for us. And it's like, hang on a minute.   Aren't they don't these guys belong in New Zealand? Yeah. Yeah.  

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You know it's much. You know you have, like, thirty minutes. Yeah. I know. I I know. And   and most people with the right mind know it as well. Your audience know it,   and we're preaching to the choir, but they still need to hear it so that they can say, hey. This is a show that you can listen to to understand what's going on. Because they've got friends that don't know it. You know?   You know what's gonna happen is, Shelley's gonna listen back to this, and she's gonna hear that you dropped the f bomb, and I haven't done it once.   Yeah. But you sullied the show in other ways. Don't give me that. No. No. No. I used the word penis. I didn't use the other words.  



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That's Yeah. I I Yeah. Yeah. I've sworn the worst onto myself. Yes. My hand. Yes. Thank you. I had to hold up my I had to hold up my hand. Surrender.   Surrender. Yeah. Yeah. Surrender. No. It's been it's been a it's been a week of that for me because I was on Blackbird nine show as you know. Oh, I'm gonna be  

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by the way, for your audience, I'm gonna be posting that on, tcta.club.   I've got all the notes. I've listened to the show, and I've written all the notes out. I've just gotta post it. I've been a bit slack because I've been busy there. You all you you're gonna want the disclaimer disclaimer  

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that I had to send to Blackbird for the following week's show. So when I was listening and watching and skipping back and skipping forward and blah blah blah blah blah, the Tommy Robinson   shill nonsense went on.   I stated   on on Black Bird nine show last week because it literally just happened. I just finished swathing up, went on the show. Yeah. And I was looking through all my notes. And when I I stated on Black Bird nine show that when they when he said let's hear it for   England or let's hear it for Great Britain, and they bought out the Ulster flag, which is kind of like Northern Ireland, and it's a it's a it's a British flag, but it's got, like, a Jewish star in the middle and a crown and a hat. Star   Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And I was like, oh, so so they   they they pulled that up and said, you know, let's hear it for Great Britain. That doesn't make any sense to me. I I pulled it None at all. I showered it out. No. I showered out on Blackbird's show only to find out that because I've been skipping through my because I went back Shelley couldn't find it after we did our show last week.  

So,   I said, look. I'll go back through the video. I went back through the video, and I watched it. And, obviously,   I discovered at that moment in time   that when he said let's hear it for Great Britain, they actually bought out a Unni and Jack. But my sound was that far out of sync because I'd been skipping backwards and forwards and taking notes. Oh, no.   So I had to send a disclaimer to Blackbird now. So,  

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I'll send you the disclaimer for the show. Yes, please. Yes. Okay. Because it's so in other words,   we are with our equilibrium   because I haven't posted it yet.   I was gonna be Okay. I was gonna gonna be posting it this morning. Literally, it's only 05:43AM   here. And I was gonna be posting Providence.  

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Yeah.   Yeah. So, yeah, my my amendment basically just said, look. You know, essentially, that's I've just explained it to you. My sound was out of sync, so I got the wrong end of the stick. But Yeah. Yeah. You know, Blackbird night, when I because I I sent him a message literally, I think it was Thursday morning. So it would have been a few days after his show, and I said, look. Really important.   I got it wrong,   and I I explained why and this, that, and the other. And,   he sent me a little message back. It was a little in the form of a meme when it just said   it just said everyone makes mistakes. That's why pencils have erasers.  

I said I said I said to a machine back saying, I know. Alright. Thanks for that, but that's this has really irked me. It's really peed me off. Like  

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There's a a disclaimer for his next show. There's a there's there's a similar there's a similar one that's out there as well. I'll have to dig it up. It's a meme that says   everybody make makes mistakes.   That's why there's a thing called whiteout.   The the I I don't know whether you just had whiteout in The UK. It's Tippex. We call it Tippex here. Tippex. Okay. So it's just this little bottle of stuff, and you just white it out. But now Liquid paper.   Liquid paper. Yep. Yep. Yes. Hey. Hey. By the way, by the way, Shelley   earlier on was talking about   how she tells her, one of her grandchildren   to be confident. Be confident. Go to school. You'll be right. You'll be okay and everything like that. And and I thought do it. I thought I thought this that was pretty fantastic. But one of the things I used with my kids was this.  

You don't need to be confident to be successful.   Just be you. Just go. Just just do what you think is correct. You don't need confidence because if you're doing what you think is correct.   You don't need confidence. Because if you're doing what you think is correct,   confidence will automatically come with it, but you don't even need it. You just have to go to school,   and you need if they say that you need to do a speech, get up there and do your speech and be happy. Be happy with yourself.   That's there and do your speech and be happy. Be happy with yourself. That's all you need. Yeah. Happy with yourself. You don't need to be confident to get up and do a speech. There's there's no such thing as confidence. There's only happiness. Be happy with when you write your speech   out, whether it be about cats, dogs, trees, or whether it be about certain philosophies   or whatever,   look at it, read back on it time and time again. Give give it a good read back three or four   times and then say, right. I'm happy with that. And I'm gonna get up there and and read it because you're happy with it. Who cares whatever anyone else thinks? Confidence   requires   what other people think,   which is happiness does not.  

That's one thing I wanted to say to Shelley, but I I didn't get time to do it. And and because I had I was writing down so many notes about all the great things you were talking about, and I just thought, no. Happiness. Just be you be happy with what you think. Don't worry about the audience.   If the audience are not happy with you, who cares?  

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Yeah.   Yeah. And I think the it's it sort of goes along with what I was sort of saying about, you know, everyone feels for some reason, feels like they need to be accepted by the herd. Yeah. And you find out a year or two into school, it's all those people that didn't wanna be part of the herd are are actually the cool individuals.   Yep. You know? And they've got something to say. They've got something about them. They've got something to say. They've got something you know, you ask them their opinion, they'll give it. Yeah. And they'll give it wholeheartedly.   You know?  

No. I think, actually, the confidence conversation kinda came from me because I was I when I dropped my,   daughter off into college on the first day Yeah. I said, are you alright are you alright with me leaving you? Because I walked her into the foyer, and we we we got to the right lecturer who was going to be taking all the kids in that class to where where they had to be or give them a tour or whatever.   Yeah. And I said, are you alright with me leaving you? And she went,   yeah. Yeah. I'm fine. And I kinda didn't You didn't feel feeling it. Yeah. I wasn't feeling it. Yeah. I walked away anyway because she, you know, she's my daughter. Yeah. You know? If she'd have turned around and gone, oh, can you just stick around for a bit? I would have done. But she went, no. No. No. I'm fine.  

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That's when that's when you know when it's more important, isn't it? When you it's more important when they say, no. I'm fine. Because what they're really saying is, dad, I don't need you to stick around and make me look like a lamer.   Just fuck off. And and She wouldn't she wouldn't say that. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. She just said the f bomb. Oh, pardon me. So now we're bad as each other. So but but what I'm saying is not she wouldn't say that, but she might be thinking,   just go away because you're you're embarrassing me. Right?   All the other kids don't have their parents here. I don't want you here because you're gonna embarrass me. But what you you really know as you really know as a dad. You really know as a dad that what she's thinking is, oh god.  

You know what I mean? They get that and then isn't it funny? You were saying earlier too that all of a sudden these 18 year olds were swarming in on this 15 year old girl.   It's like, what the hell? Like, it   like, do these 18 year olds not have parents that taught them better?   Jesus.  

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Yeah. Not in this day and age, mate. You you you you're barking up the wrong tree there in The UK. Oh, I know. Yeah. It's same as here same here as in in Australia, Mel. Same here. But I I I later found out that, you know, she she was talking to me and me at the moment, and she said, you know,   when dad left,   she said, I was just sat there in my mind going, I'm confident.   I'm confident. I'm confident.   I'm confident.   I'm confident.   Because I told her, like, you know, if you walk into a room and pretend to be confident, people will think you are, and then the rest of it's a little bit more plain sailing.  

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Unless you come across a situation that you're not ready for, which was, you know, obviously an 18 year old. Backfire real quick. It can backfire real quick. I noticed with my daughter that,   when she got to high school,   one of the things   she did,   she was thinking that she was gonna go and meet new friends and everything like that. And then all of a sudden, when   she didn't click well with them and they didn't click well with her, she folded back into herself.   And she she sat in a corner of the,   school ground during lunchtime   all by herself because she was petrified. So it can backfire. You've gotta be careful with it. You as you as you know, being a dad, you you gotta be real careful with the whole situation. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Definitely. But, you know, at the end of the day, you know, you can't  

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I suppose at the end of the day, you can't wrap them in cotton wool. You just have to prepare prepare them in the best way that you can and and and and hope that they stick.   As as I've said,   all my kids know the story of the Spitfire pilot who said yeah. Because obviously me being me. Oh, dad. Why have you always gotta bring things back to war study? It's important. We learn a lot of lessons there. Right? You know? Yeah. And one of the things they say is is it's a quote from a Spitfire pilot. Someone asked him, he said, were you scared? And he said, well, of course, I was bloody scared. Yeah. He said, but mark of courage is carrying on despite the fact that you're scared.  

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Yep.   That's that's exactly right. Yep. That's exactly right. In the face of danger,   can you handle it or can't you? And, Yeah. And and I I guess, like like, of course, I don't even guess.   Of course, there's gonna be some people that can   handle things in the face of danger,   and there's gonna be people that can't. But don't doubt yourself just because you couldn't,   face danger at that time because you don't know how brave,   or strong you're gonna become later. That's that's one thing I was just recently saying   as,   your audience, if they listen to my show, will I've recorded saying,   for those of you young people that are playing chess that think you're just gonna give up because chess is such a   complicated,   thought process,   don't give up. Just keep going. Because sooner or later, you realize the traps and you'll then realize how to set the traps.  

So you you always   keep hold on to that. Hold on to that, you know, Red Baron   flying. And everyone I I like that. Don't don't give up because you'll become brave.  

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Yeah. Well, that that's the thing. I mean, and the and the the mark of courage   is carrying on despite the fact that you're absolutely  

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Petrified. You know?   Yeah.  

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Yeah. It's a you know,   every every guy that I read about, the guys in the trenches in World War one, one, the all the people in military operations in World War two,   they were all scared. Yeah. Of course. Of course. Of course, they were. You could add your life snuffed out any minute, and you've you've suddenly had to get used to a life where all your mates are being snuffed out left, right, and center right next to you. Yeah. You know? Yeah. Yeah. You know what terrified me on on tonight's broadcast or, well, this morning's broadcast for me tonight's for you,  

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was the your discussion on the hoover.   I thought, oh my god. They still make hoovers? Over here in Australia, we   had the Hoover vacuum. Right?   Yeah. And and you just briefly mentioned the Hoover. It's like a Hoover. You know? And Yeah. And I thought, oh my god. They still make Hoovers these days? That's terrifying. Those vacuums were terrible.  

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I don't know whether they still because originally, Hoover was the guy who invented the vacuum. That's right. Yep.   Yep. So I don't know whether they still make hoovers over here. I mean,   I know there was a there was a there was   a really crass and dreadful story for you in the audience. Right? But this comes from my childhood. And there was a there was a guy that we they always had the guy that always you know, he couldn't help himself. He just made life so bad for himself that no one could help but take the Mickey out of him. Right? Yeah. And that is this particular guy, I I won't mention his second name. Let's just say his name was Paul. Okay. Right? So English.   No. I didn't know Paul English when I was young.  

But   Let's just say well, we can pick a different name if you like. Whatever. I'm just joking. I'm just joking. It's not Paul English. I'm gonna give you the second name. But, you know,   he used to want to impress people so much that he would lie   about things that had occurred to him. Come on. We all knew people like that. Right? Right. Yeah. But to be a good liar, you've got to have a bloody good memory. So he'd be permanently caught out on all the lies that he told about how cool he was. You know? So he he eventually made a rod for his own back. Yep.   So this so this is we're coming to the crass part of the story. Right? So one day, one of my associates in in actual fact, the brother of the lead singer that you've just listened to on the last tune, the brother,   went round to call for Paul.  

And there was no answer at the front door, but he knew he was in because he'd only phoned him about twenty minutes earlier. Yep.   So he went round to to knock on the windows. And and what does he find but Paul   on his mother and father's bed   with a dirty magazine   and the hoover?   Oh,   no.   Jesus.   So so we used to there was a there was an advert out on TV at the time that we used to that that, we used to use used to use the   the the punchline of the advert on him, which was   nothing sucks like an Electrolux.  

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Jesus.  

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But it's worse because You have lowered the you have lowered the tone of this show  

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more than I ever could.  

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Well, I just I don't I I beg to differ. I mean, you've done a thing.   Oh, bullshit. We get we get to   sorry, folks. We're tuning into something   authentic and   no. It's not that. You've got something authentic. It's just maybe not as close to  

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a topic. So  

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years   years years down the line. Right? Yeah. Stay on the line. We party we we all grew up and we left school and blah blah blah blah. We all moved Our areas that we   and I get a job as a chef   in this in this pub, which is actually where I met my other half, my better half as I always refer to.   So we're talking twenty seven years ago now. I'd bumped back into   Paul who was getting himself a job. This is this brand new what was it? It was an old pub that had been refurbished, been bought out by a big brewery company. It all been refurbished. They took on a a shit ton of stuff. Yep. And lo and behold, Paul is one of the bar men.   Shit. Okay. And, of course, it's you know, I'm there trying to hold myself together because he's a bit older and he's a bit wiser and, you know, blah blah. And then over a period of weeks, nay, months,   he just he ends up being the same person and trying too hard and making a rod for his own back, and everyone ends up thinking he's an ass. Right? Is it Right. The same, really. But at at that point, I had to,   explain the Period. Luck story.  

Yeah. So he earned the name, folks. Yeah. Earned the name. Yeah. I had a mate I had a mate of mine. John. No. Wait. John. Yeah. He he earned the name Edgar.  

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Ed Edgar? What the, like like, the,  

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computer? No. He earned the name Edgar as in j Edgar Hoover. Oh, shit. Oh, no. Oh, no. I had a a I had a friend.  

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Let's call him Gary. Right? I had a friend called Gary, and he said And you know you've got two and a half minutes. Okay. I'll be quick.   I had a friend named Gary. Right?   And we'll call him Gary, at least.   And he said to me at one stage, have have you tried the vacuum? And I said,   well, because we were talking about masturbation,   and he said, have you tried the vacuum? I said, no. I said, how would you would it fit?   And he just looked at me, and I went, oh, I'm very   sorry. Obviously, his could fit. Right?   So then I realized what I'd said. I thought, how would it fit? And he sort of looks at me as if, like, oh, shit. I was like,   oh, sorry about that, mate.  

I apologize.   Oh, god.   Yeah. We we ended this we we're ending the show on a really good night.  

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We are. Look. We've got we've got about forty seconds left before I play the outro. So, look, Sean, it's been really great to have you on. Do come on again. Do jump on again with us.   As I say, Shelley takes hiatus for half an hour at the end of every every other week's show Yeah. Because she has to go to bless her. Yeah. Shelley, if you're listening, I hope I hope you have a very pleasant evening at work, and and I hope you sleep soundly. Well, it's it's it's a pleasure as always. Thanks for having me, Mel. And thank you, Shelley, as well if you're listening.  

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Always a pleasure.  

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Yeah.   Awesome. Well, folks, you have been listening   live on radiosoapbox.com   to the Shelley Tasker Show with the cohost,   obvious obviously,   mister Scott, and my excellent or our excellent guest, mister Sean Surplus. Take care, and we will see you at the same time next week.