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Broadcasts live every Wednesday at 7:00p.m. uk time on Radio Soapbox: http://radiosoapbox.com

In this lively midweek episode of The Shelley Tasker Show on RadioSoapbox, I’m joined by my co‑host, Mallificus Scott, for a wide‑ranging conversation that swings from personal updates and British weather to media manipulation, MK Ultra, Operation CHAOS, and how culture has shifted from the 1950s to today. We discuss Barnum World and the mechanics of persuasion, identity confusion, and propaganda, touching on the trans debate as framed in contemporary media. We also explore historical mind‑control programmes, including LSD experiments, the Tusko the elephant case, and links to the Manson story via Tom O’Neill’s research. Closer to home, we cover the shocking case of a Cornwall surgeon jailed after deliberately disabling himself amid a fetish subculture, and we unpack the spectacle and strategy behind mass protests and media figures. Amid the heavy topics, we share grounded, human moments—family life, fitness wins, garden projects, and why local community and dinner‑table conversations matter now more than ever.

Expect sharp takes, a few laughs, and an unapologetically candid look at how narratives are shaped—and how to keep your wits about you in the noise.

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Gentlemen,   and welcome to the Shelley Tasker Show coming live out of radiosoapbox.com.   It's good to have your company.   Today's date is Wednesday, 09/17/2025.   Happy hump day, everybody.   I'm joined by my wonderful co host, mister Malefika Scott.  

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Thanks there, Shelley. Yeah. It's gonna be an absolutely fantastic show tonight for you folks. And, we're glad to have you with us.  

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Question.   Is it fair to say that men can have babies?   Or does that mean you're dismissing their rights of being transgender?  

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Yeah that that and a few other things, Operation Chaos,  

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MK Ultra,   all coming up in the next couple of hours, folks.   And what happened to poor Tusko the elephant?   LSD overdose?  

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What?   And when did diversity   start being aired on TV?   What happened to those good old programs in the good old days?  

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All coming up on the Shelley Tasker Show live on radio, soapbox.com.   Folks, enjoy.  

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A double leg amputation,   Cornwall surgeons, fetish story exposes the bigger picture of the horrors happening all around us, quite gross!  

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And good old Stephen   Lennon's protest. We'll get into a bit of that as well.   Good evening, mister Scott. What an opening. Yeah. Good evening, missus Tusk. It's great to hear your voice. How are you?  

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I'm very well. I'm   absolutely bouncing.   Good. Bouncing.   I know. I've had to take   I know. But I've had to take a couple of paracetamol to, like, ease my excitement because when I get like this, I get a thumping headache. Oh, no. So,   so I'm just, like, taking   precautions as one should,  

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but life is good. How about yourself? Taking precautions. That's what they were doing at my daughter's college today, handing out free condoms for the lads. How about Really?  

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Hang on. What about, the whole feminine stuff here? What about giving the females the female condom,  

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or did they really not take off? I I don't know. I my daughter wasn't party to it because she's 15, obviously. Right.  

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Okay.  

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One one lad apparently got rather upset because he wanted the pink one and got a blue one instead.  

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Oh,   as long as it works. They are, I don't know, ninety nine point nine percent effective. So bit like the COVID vaccine.   So  

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Dear. Oh, dear. A bit close to the bone there. See what I did? I know. I know.   I'm not gonna sully the show anymore this evening. Sorry. Sorry for the that crass, disgusting statement.   Yeah. Oh, man. So it's been a hell of a week. We've had, as I say, Steven Yaxley Lennon, aka Tommy Robinson or Lonnie Donegan, as I kept calling him on Blackbird nine show on Saturday.   Had that protest going on in London.   They reckon 3,000,000 people.   BBC reckoned just over a 100,000.   The number's probably somewhere in between.   Did you catch any of it?  



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Yeah. I've watched bits of it. I watched the speeches   and stuff like that. Yeah. I think it was a 110,000   people Sky reported, but the aerial view,   yeah, there was a hell of a lot more. People probably reckon at least about one and a half million.  

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Yeah. Yeah. I mean,   well, yeah, we can get into a bit of that later in the show. I've I've got lots of holes to pick in it.   I was on with Blackbird nine over the weekend just as it happened in in actual fact just after it. Yeah. It was a great show. I had a good show, and we had some great callers actually on that show. So may maybe we could   organize some callers in on this show at some point as well. We'll we'll be working on that, folks. If you if we say something that piqued your interest and you wanna chip in your 2p worth,   we will give out the the address for the studio at some point, but it won't be this week.  

So,  

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We are planning. We are changing things. We are formatting things. We're starting to feel professional, aren't we? Well,  

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I've always been professional, me. A professional professional  

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what? I'm not quite sure. But, yeah. But we're not winging it, are we? We're not winging it. We've got structure.  

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Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah.   Lots   of lots of that. Yes. I I think. Yes.  

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Yeah. We're getting there. So apart from what have you been up to all week, mister Scott? Apart from being a radio tarp on Blackbird nine's show and   gardening and what have you been up to? I like a bit of radio tart them. It's good. It's  

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good. I like to you know what? You know what? It's always a a pleasure to be speaking to different audiences as well because   and as I say, we had some really nice callers on that show.   Chance Chance called in. Mer Bailey called in.   And you know what? It's just nice to know. You know, I've always said, like, the main reason I used to listen to independent radio shows is because   you realize you're not going mad, and there's other people that think the same way that you do. And,   largely, I think that is why a lot of people listen. Yeah. Because quite often on this show, definitely, I think we're we're almost certainly preaching to the choir. A lot of people know what the score is.   You know, we can't all know everything I know and, you know, I get things wrong sometimes. You know,   you know, you get things wrong sometimes. Everyone gets things wrong. We can't all know everything, but it's really nice to know that,   you know, you can be listening to a show and just think, oh, you know what? I'm glad I'm not going mad. I'm glad it's not just me. Because quite often, you know, particularly when you look into alternative histories and that kind of thing, it's quite a lonely journey.  

And, you know, you can drive those you love around you absolutely insane by going on about all your discoveries all the time. So I've I I learned after about   twelve years to shut my mouth.  

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Yeah. You found your outlet, though.  

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Well, you know,   it's it's not even so much about finding the outlet. As I say,   you know, when you go back and when you listen to these different, broadcasts from around the world, you know, you you suddenly realize that, actually, there is a consensus.   It's just it's not   put out on the on the mainstream   or lamestream media as as Blackbird nine would put it.   Yeah. So I had a good show with that. I had quite a good bit of feedback from that as well.   And one of the chaps actually that called in, he said it's just nice to know there's someone over there in The UK   that,   I   for for want of a better word, I'm paraphrasing, but but just gets it. You know, we got an ally over there in in The UK.  

You know, it's, as a as a host and a cohost and and someone that's been in, you know, dabbling in radio for for about the same time you have, about six years, I guess, something like that.   Six, seven years.   It's it's really nice sometimes just to get that that positive feedback that, you know, you're not barking up the wrong tree and, you know, there's other people that are in the same camp. And, you know, that's what that's really that's what these shows are all about, isn't it?  

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Yes. It is. Yeah. And I met someone today. You know, I have my granddaughter every Wednesday, and I take her to playgroup in the mornings. And last week, I went to a different one.   And I might have said that I was chatting to a couple of people and they homeschool their children, they don't vaccinate and stuff like that. And I was really chuffed when I got home. And I went back there again today,   and we sat down for the whole hour and a half talking about   alternative   health COVID and stuff like that. And then one of the ladies bought subject and hit and   I thought, oh, do do we say anything or not? And I said, well, do you know there's quite a few people that would say that he had some positive aspects to him?  

And she went, really? She said, I'm not sure that's a rabbit hole I want to go down.   And then the other lady went, oh my god. She said, I never thought there'd be another person I could talk about this to. She said, me and my husband both said the same and we we just started talking about the whole things. And I'm like, crikey. I'm at a toddler group, and   people know.   And it's just wonderful, isn't it, to have these conversations   and discuss things that happened in history?  

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Yeah.   Absolutely. With with an objective stance. I mean, you don't you don't have to agree necessarily agree with I mean, one   regardless of what anyone thinks about   Hitler and his regime, the first two laws he brought into existence or their government bought into existence   was the banning of charging of interest, the banning of usury,   and the banning of pornography.   Now if you could do two thing I've said this so many times. If you could do two things in this country   to free everyone   overnight,   it would be banning them from debt and banning them from sexual depravity. And I don't I don't think there's a that they're not too bad laws to bring in. So, you know, I'm not Not at all. I'm not making this up, folks. Go look it up for yourself. There are, famous   Jewish colleges and scholars that actually talk about this online on on YouTube. You can go and look it up.  

So, yeah, I mean, they did all you know, having said that, you look at the flip side of the coin.   For instance, the euthanasia program   that they had over in Nazi Germany at the time. So because they realized there was a war coming   and the a third of Germany's doctors   were tied up dealing with the clinically insane,   they devised a plan to euthanize   all the clinically insane, and they did so via carbon monoxide poisoning   and sent the relatives a letter saying, you know, truly a merciful death.   So  

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you you there were some bad aspects as well. So, you know, nobody on this show is denying that. No. No. But the other lady, she was keen and she was like, oh, crikey. She said, I've never even thought about that. And she said, I don't think I'm quite ready to go down that rabbit hole. But she listened and it was just dropping,  

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what's the word? I've lost the word. Planting seeds. Planting seeds. That's the one. Yeah. Dropping seeds, I was gonna say. And it's it's all like like the the parable of the seed sower in in the bible. You know? Some seeds fall on stony ground. Some seeds fall on,   you know, ground that's covered in brambles and and and stuff, and and they don't bear fruit or they they, you know, the the seeds,   you know, spring up, but they're   they don't grow properly because they're covered in brambles and weeds and all that kind of thing. I'm para again, I'm paraphrasing. I'm not you know, I don't have that parable   stored in my head that I can read it out like a pastor would. But,   you know, the the message is there. That's that's the important thing.  

Yeah. So no. Other other than, being a bit of a radio tart,   I've basically spent the week getting really,   really wet   because the weather the weather has turned   horrible. I mean, yeah, we're British. We gotta talk about the weather a little bit. It's like we've skipped autumn, isn't it?   Oh, it was a bit like well, to be fair, no. It's still been fairly warm. I have to admit. It's still been fairly warm, but,   yeah, we've had some wet days.   But one of the lovely things, one of the gardens that I help out in,   it's a three acre garden. It's huge.  

There's just just one lady. The,   the lady that, owns the house,   is you know, she's got a family, but she's the only person that takes an interest in the garden.   And,   we go and help out there.   And we actually had the garden society, the the Royal Garden Society come and visit,   two days at the beginning of the week.   And the pos the the the positive feedback that she got just made her absolutely elated, especially when they realized that it's just her and a couple of other people for just a couple of days a week   getting all that stuff done. So that you know, things like that really spur you on, don't they? You know, you you think, oh, this is you know, because you imagine a three acre garden   with, you   know, just a a handful of people or not even a handful of people working in it, and it always feels like an uphill slog.  

But then, you know, you you look at what we've achieved over the last year, and, obviously, some of these people turned up last year as well. And they're just like, oh, it's an it's amazing what you've done and what a legacy you're gonna be leaving here and all that kind of thing. So it's just lovely. You know? So that that was my up of the week. Definitely. Lovely.   Yeah. Lovely.   Yeah. One of one of the I'll have to send you a picture at some point. It's the same lady that I did that crazy sculpture for.   Alright. Yeah. But she's got one part of her garden is,   it extends out past the rest of the garden, and we fenced it off.  

So it with a big sort of bamboo fence   that you can't really see through. There's gaps in it, but you can't really see through.   And it's done in, like, six big six foot panels with posts in between.   And one of the panels actually splits in the middle, and there's a little cord you pull. And the and the the panel splits in half, and you can walk into this secret garden.   Oh, I love a secret garden. Yeah. And she's done an Alice in Wonderland theme in there, and it's just or, you know, we've we've done an Alice in Wonderland theme in there. And, one of my jobs a few weeks back I may have sent you the photograph. I don't know.   But one of my jobs a few weeks back was to carve a huge wooden mushroom with a chainsaw, which was great fun.  



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Brilliant fun. Men and their tools.  

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Oh, yeah. Yeah. But, you know, god, it took me took me about a day and a half.   And this thing stands   about three and a half foot tall.   It's made up of various different log rounds, which I basically drove   a a steel bar   down through the middle of   and   and just carved it like it was following the light, you know, and and made yeah. And then on top of the mushroom   is sat the caterpillar from Alice in Wonderland, sat there smoking his hooker pipe, you know, his bong or whatever you call it. Yeah. It just looks really cool. So, yeah, little achievements. Sounds it. Yeah. Yeah. I'll if I haven't sent you a picture, I'll send you a picture in in a bit. Maybe when we go to break, I'll I'll ping it over to you or something like that. Yeah. Yeah. But you're quite artistic, aren't you? Was that autistic?  

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No. Well, that as well.   Artistic.  

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Do you know what? I I treat my whole,   you know, when I go down to places and work in places like that, you know, because I do a lot of gardens that are just, you know, can you make sure the hedges are trimmed and there's no weeds in the borders? And it's just, you know, it's just mundane and boring and and the place looks the same every week when you leave or every other week when you leave. It's like, oh, yeah. It's back to how it was when I left last week. You know? And it's just   it's not Yeah. Nice to do something a bit different. Yeah. It's not soul destroying, but it's it's it's a bit mundane. You know? It's like Groundhog Day each time you go.   Whereas   I   I I'm not really a gardener down at this other place. I'm a problem solver.  

You know? I go and solve problems for her. I need this doing. How am I gonna get that done? Oh, well, let's have a think about it. And we we work out a plan and we do it. You know? So,   and with three, three and a half acres of garden, you've got there's a lot of space there to, solve problems in. So, yeah, it's been good.   Good. How's that? Yeah. So your your little chats at the, your little chats,   with these sort of random folks,   isn't it funny who you bump into   and and what they know  

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and what they can add to what you know and and things. Absolutely. When they're just on your wavelength about everything, spiritual stuff as well. I love it. And I came in and she was like, oh, you're later than usual. And I said, well, I said, to be honest with you, an hour and a half is enough because, you know, last week we didn't really get chatting to the last ten minutes or so, but I'm bouncing, I think as well, because I joined the gym last week. Oh, did you? In shock horror. I did. Yeah. I usually join the gym, go like once or twice, and then I'm like, no, this isn't for me.   And there's an all women's gym in Cambourne,   and it's lovely. You get it's open twenty four hours a day. You've got a keypad.  

I joined up, and I paid for a fitness plan.   And basically you've got an app that gives you like three workouts a week,   you watch the videos,   and I went in there. You know, when I joined gyms before,   people were like, this is how you use this. They give you a quick tour and that's that, but there's no like, well, okay. What do I do now?   By the time I've had the tour, I've totally forgotten   how to use anything. Like like, I was messaging you, like, thirty seconds before the show because I panic on instructions.   I'm like, oh my god. What did we just talk about? Everything was a bit back to front and while she was giving me all these instructions, I felt like my head was like, oh my god. I feel like I get people dancing in my head because I'm trying to concentrate so much.  

So, I did the session but, like,   she came over and explained to me on the rowing machine, and she said, right, listen to that noise.   But things like that, that's how I learn. Mhmm. And when I could understand the noise and the speed, I grasped it like that. But they're just little things, little pointers   that I've never had before, and it's a sort of gym where you've got every age going.   Everybody wears what they want,   and it's lovely. And I'm buzzed up, so I went yesterday again.   And   I've never had that euphoric feeling that people talk about when they exercise.   And since I've been doing it, I mean, it's only been, what, three times now, but literally for the rest of the day, I am flying.  



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Yeah. And it's like, crikey, I get what people are talking about. Yeah. Well, you're releasing all those natural endorphins that your body releases, you know, when when you're doing that kind of thing. And,   your body needs   exercise. You know? It's like when you know,   quite often when I'm,   you know, using a strimmer or using a hedge cutter or something like that,   my my upper body strength now is is, I think, probably better than it's ever been. I mean, I'm I'm 49, so my fitness level is not nearly as good as it used to be. But, you know, you get to the point where you're sort of partway along. You know? And I've got, you know, I I've got to the point now where   the the equipment that I use, I'm so accustomed with it that there's times when I can literally   hold, you know, I I use a powered like, a petrol powered   hedge trimmer.  

And it gets to the point where I'm I'm at the top of a ladder, and I've got my arms outstretched, and I'm just holding on to the back handle of it. It weighs it weighs a lot.   And   partway through, you think, oh, I'm starting to tire out. Oh, I'll just get this bit done. I'll just get this bit done. I'll just get this bit done. And when you finish it and you come back down off the ladder, you go, woah.   But you feel  

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good. You know? Yeah. You do. You do. I was like back with the bar yesterday. I've got this big bar in front of me. We're quite light, late weights because I'm only starting up, and, you know, I'm not gonna go to the extreme of bodybuilding, but I was like, five more, Shelley. You can do it. And I was literally like, breathe it in, breathe it out. And when I did the final five, I'm like, go you. You know? Exactly that. You know? And it's about pushing past that barrier sometimes when you think, oh, I can't carry it. No. No. I'm going to. I just I'm gonna do it. Because if I if I have to get down off the ladder now or if I have to pull the hedge trimmer in now,  

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then   I'm gonna have to go to that point again.   And it's just gonna hurt a lot. Let's just Yeah. Let's just do it. Let's just do it. You know? And it's like, you know, when you stop and start anything,   you know, in quick succession. When you stop and start anything,   it's it's harder to stop and then start again rather than carry on. And I think,   the little strimmer that I've got now, and it's only a little one. It's not a huge thing. It's in fact, it's the smallest strimmer that still do. But it's got to the point now where   I can I can you know, most people,   you know, permanently use it with two hands? I can use it with one hand while I'm just holding up bushes and stuff to get out of here.  



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You sound like a right muscle man. I can do it one handed. No. Don't you?  

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I'm not at all. Like, you look at me, I'm not. I'm a I'm what they would term as a lanky streak of urine.   But,   I'm I'm not. I'm I've always been quite skinny. The only thing that's actually ever made me put on weight is drinking too much beer   and then eating at the end of the night,   and then going to sleep. Yeah.   We're all guilty of that. Yeah. Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. But, you know,   no. I've I've I think I'm slimmer now than I've been for for   a long time, and it's just down to the physical exercise.   I think I said as I said to you the beginning of the year, I said, I'm getting my six pack back. That's great.  



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Lucky Sharp.  

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Yeah. Well, you know, yeah, she is very lucky. I think I'm a She is very lucky. I'm a I'm a bit luckier, I think.   Aw.   So, I don't know. Oh, that's so sweet. So Oh, I love it. Say, mate, as I always say, she you know, we've been together I think this is this is year '27   Crikey. That we've been together. And,   a lot of people say to you,   My my mate came down a a couple of years back, and I think we've been together about twenty three years at that point. Twenty three, twenty five years, something like that. And he said, oh, how long have you and your missus been together? And I said, I told him how long. And he just looked at me and he went,   how have you done it? He said, I've never managed more than two years in a relationship. And I said, mate, it's it's really simple.  

Really simple.   You know, everyone enters into this whole thing that when I fall in love, the rest of my life is going to be idyllic.   It's absolute   bunkum, for one of a better word. Absolute nonsense. No.   The the real test of relationship is is being able to put up with each other's faults   and understanding each other's faults and making allowances for them. Of course, I have to say we're live on air that my other half doesn't have any faults.  

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I bet she hasn't because I don't think I've got many faults actually, Maleficus.  

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Well, she puts up well, she puts up with mine. That's the point. And, you know,   Alec, because I know I've got faults. Yeah. And, you know, anyone that doesn't think they've got any faults is you know, other than yourself and my other half, obviously,   anyone that doesn't think that they've got faults,   is just living in cloud, cuckoo land.   You know? Everyone gets irritating to live with at some point. You live with someone that love. Yeah. You're gonna get on each other's accounts at some point. Yeah.  

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Once a month, I just, like, when it's, like, my women's time of the month for a couple of days before, I'll just walk upstairs and I'll blow a big raspberry at Darren and he'll go, oh,   it's like that is it.   Yep.   Just don't talk to me. You're blinking too loud. Just irritated by everything. But we got back today from playgroup, and it's a thing that we always ring the ring doorbell just to speak to Darren. And he always asks me and Phoebe what we've been up to. And I've talked to Phoebe today to say because she said, where's Darren?   Is he at work? And I said, yeah. I said, nanny, he's got to work so nanny can have a nice life. So she said this to him on the ring doorbell. I said, so why does Darren work so nanny can have it? And she went, nice life. And he said, absolutely. She deserves that. And I thought, oh, bless his heart.  

I do work as well, but it's just a joke. You know? He he does work a lot harder than I do.  

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But, he looks after me. So he's a social. Yeah. You you look after each other. I'm sure. I'm sure it's not one-sided.   I'm I'm positive it's not one side sided. I've I've met Darren, you know, and he's a top bloke. He's a top bloke. He would probably want me to put out a bit more, but I think that's a man thing in general.   Yeah. But, you know did I know of the tone, but, you know Come on. Men have two brains, don't they? Yeah. Yeah. You know, it's it that that's just one of those things. And and,   you know, if you can't quell those urges from time to time, that's your problem, isn't it? You know?   No. Well, it is. Who else is it?  



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Absolutely.  

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Who else is it? Is it? Yeah. You have a very cold one.   Oh, dear. We had to lower the tone, didn't we? You did it, not me. I lowered it. I know. I can't help it. At the bottom of the hour, it was your turn, to be fair.  

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Okay.  

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Oh, look.   So we that that said, we are coming close to the bottom there. Is there is there anything you wanna say before we get into to to a little break and and the rest of the show?   No. No. I'm just happy. You go for it. Play a tune. Okay. I'm I'm gonna play a tune then. This one is actually so I've got I've got a tune or two of yours to play in a bit.   But this one actually comes from the oldpureoriginal.com   archive,   and it's a tune called   done. Enjoy, folks. I'll see you in a few minutes. See you in a minute, Shelley. See you in a  

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sec.  

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That's a twenty three, 24 year old tune by a bank called Mule.   I've been done or done for short.   You're listening live, folks, to radiosoapbox.com.   This is what show is it, Shelley?  

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It's the Shelley Tasker Show. I knew it was. I knew I was in the right place. You're in the right place with my wonderful co host, mister Maleficus   Scott.  

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It's been a good week, really, I have to say. It's been a good week. It's been quite an exciting week, actually, to be fair. There's been lots going on, particularly around the end of last.   That was, that was quite an event. I say we might get into that in the second hour, mister Yaxley Lennon's,   little   foray into   riling the British public.   But, yeah, what have you got anything that you wanted to touch on before we get into any of that, Shelley?  

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No.   Nothing. I'm done with the updates.   I'm ready to get into story mode, mister Scott. Okay. So what what stories have you got for us this week then? Right. Well, before we because it I mean, I think you've got lots to say about this subject as well. You've got that clip   from the Barnum movie that you recommended me.  

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Okay. So Barnum enjoy it.   Barnum World. What your thoughts were then?  

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Well, some of it, I did really think, like, I get the point. I get the point because it was a bit repetitive,   but I enjoyed it. And I think for those newbies   that are kind of new to alternate well, what's been going on in the world in government that keeps repeating itself in history,   it's a really good   it's a really good way to show them of, basically, what Barnum World is. I mean, give me a Barnum World expression, Maleficus.  

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We're gonna make England great again.  

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Yes. Yes.   Yes.   So, I mean, it covered lots of topics, but it was mainly about wasn't it about that? How the media   portrays stuff and the political parties, how they all say the same, but, actually, nothing changes.  

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Yeah.  

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And how we're just, like,   on a chessboard pawns. We're just pawns in a chessboard, really. We are.  

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So I I think he's I think he termed it brilliantly at the beginning of the show. He said, the average person, most people,   they're they're sheep,   and they get sheared   year after year.  

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Yes. Yes.   And I was taking notes. I was leaving voice messages to myself so I could,   record bit sound clips and stuff. So so the first one is about five minutes long,   and it's got the guy I can't remember the main guy's name,   but it will lead on to a conversation that you wanted to touch on about as well, a bit about MK Ultra and stuff. But quite interesting.  

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That was that would be number one, would it? That would be it. Okay. And now for some reason, you have to you have to filibuster just for a second because I've just realized   that,   I've got two lots of number two and no number one. So  

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Bestest What do what do you know  

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about,   oh, I'm gonna I'm gonna have to download it again, Shelley. I'm really sorry about that. Alright. No. Don't worry. Don't worry. Do number two then. Okay. Well, we'll do number two first. And when we've when we've made some discussion points out, how did I manage to get two of them? Two of the same Well, you did say that you're not perfect.   There we go. There we go. Look. And you proved the point. There look. There we go. Perfect example. Perfect example. So we'll we'll we'll roll with clip number two, and then we'll get to clip number one afterwards. Go on then. Go for it. Here we go.  

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Compare   the movie and television   programming   from the nineteen fifties,   to what's airing today.   See, the degradation, it's, it's astounding.   And yet people, they don't they don't really see it. See, it happens   very slowly   over time.  

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This boy and girl coming home from school look quite content with life.   And why not?   They're looking forward to an important date, dinner at home with the family.  

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You enjoy playing mother daughter.  

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I'm gonna be a real one. And I want a large family. 10 at least. 10?   There's an old saying where I come from. On the tree that bears much fruit, the sunshine's brightest.  

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Who's to say that the boy   would be happier   your way from mine?  

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Why not let him decide?  

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No. I'm afraid it don't work that way. You can't let a young man decide for himself. He'll grab it the first flashy thing with shiny ribbons on it. And when he finds out there's a hook in, it's too late.   Wrong ideas come packaged with so much glitter. It's hard to convince him that other things might be better in the long run.   And all a parent can do is say wait. Trust me.   You can try to keep temptation away.  

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So   I loved   what he said, and this is in the nineteen fifties.  

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Yeah. That that last clip, that last statement that that he made is absolutely fantastic.   Go on. So what did you love about it?  

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Well, I just love the fact that you've got to guide your children. And like you said,   some things are gonna look pretty. They're gonna wanna go that way, but you gotta hold your ground as a parent. No. That's not right. You listen to me. I'm the parent.   Don't be swayed.   You'll thank me for it one day. Yeah. Because this day and age, everybody's like, oh, well, if you wanna be a girl, you go and be a girl. If you wanna do this, you go and do that. Yeah. But it was it was traditional   parenting that I would like to think, you know, good old family times and like the first clip, they're having a date with their family.  

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Yeah. Really important things. Yeah. Mealtime used to be such an important time. It was at my house, you know,   because obviously, you've spoken to my mom. She was bought up by with with very   rigid structure.   And,   you know, you weren't allowed to leave the table until everyone had finished.   And you weren't allowed to fidget at the table   either. I remember my mom saying that sometimes she used to swing her legs underneath the seat, and it used to make, you know, make the table rock a little bit.   And her father all her father would have to do   is look up at her,   and he'd give her a look, and she'd just go bright red in the face and stop moving her legs.  

Because it was rude. You didn't yeah. You yeah. That look. You don't you don't disturb other people's meal. My mama was also   we used to sit around. We had a dining room. When I grew up, we had a dining room in the second half. We're lucky enough to have a a five bedroom house and a kitchen   and a dining room.   And the dining room, we had we had a big round table in it, and there was a there was a beautiful old brass chandelier hanging from the ceiling that came from my mom's,   like, family home.   And   we used to sit around that table.   And while we were waiting for dinner or while we were eating our dinner,   some of us you you me because I got a brother and a sister.  

And you'd you'd sort of sit there,   you'd put your elbow on the table. And my mom and my dad would both say, the only joint that should be on the table is the one you're eating.   Love it. Yeah. So, you know, she was brought up with that rigid structure. What I loved about that, you know, a a kid is gonna clutch at the first shiny thing with ribbons on it. Of course, they are. You know, this is this is what marketing and advertising is all about. Unfortunately, marketing and advertising nowadays has been pushed to such an extent   that,   you better not say anything against the spearmint commercial or you better not say anything against the beer commercial. You know, it's   it's,   this this whole, ideology that's being put forward now that kids are allowed to make their own decisions. No. They're not.  

Not if it's morally wrong. Your your duty as a parent   is to provide that moral guidance for your child   for the rest of society. And one of the things one of the things I used to say to my kids, particularly my son when he was misbehaving,   he'd say, why are you why are you doing that? I said, quite simple, mate.   My duty as a parent is to make sure excuse my French folks if you if you're a bit,   you   know, if you don't like that. I'll just laugh.   No. But I used to say my main duty as a parent,   I've got three kids, and I've gotta make sure that I you know, my main duty as a as a parent is that when I die, I don't leave any assholes on the planet.  

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Yeah.   But we don't have   morals like we did, and I think a lot of that. I know that the TV not only   has it been used   to mind control us and stuff like that, it stopped families sitting around the table.   Because I wonder what percentage of people out there sit down with their tea on their laps in the evenings.   With the TV on? With the TV on. Yeah. And no conversation.   How was your day? And, you know, let's just value these moments.  

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How many how many houses are big enough nowadays   to afford a dining room?  

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True. True.  

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And no. But that's that's part of it, isn't it? Everyone That is. Yeah. Squeezed into a smaller and smaller living space.   You know?   I live in a three bedroom house, but the third bedroom, you can't call that a bedroom. It's a box.  

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Yeah. You'd be It's a junk room, I bet. You no. No. Actually, it is a bedroom.  

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But Right. You'd be you you're lucky enough just to squeeze a single bed into it and a and a couple of units. You know? And that's how houses that's how houses were made when I like, twenty something years ago when I got my house. You look at the houses all going up outside Newquay now and all over Cornwall   being financed, should I say, by   councils that are nothing to do with Cornwall, Manchester City Council being one of them.   You know, and that you gotta beg you. It's a separate subject, but it begs the question, why should Manchester City Council be paying for housing in Cornwall?   Answers on the back of a postcard, folks. Send it into either me or missus Shelley Tasker.  

But the houses that are being built now,   every single room is tiny. Even the living room, what you would call a living room or a lounge, even those are tiny little box rooms now.   They're just squeezing as many people   as they possibly can. So,   another example, a a few years ago, a mate of mine was getting rid of some furniture,   and he said, hey. Do you want this? And do you know what it was? It was one of those   it was, officially, it was known as a drinks cabinet,   but this thing was about six foot high   and about eight foot long.   And it had one of those little it had shelves on it and and a and a and a sort of desk with cupboards underneath it.  

Almost like a dresser, what you'd call a dresser, but it was bigger. And it had a thing in the middle that you you pressed, and it folded down, and there was a mirror behind it. And that's where you keep your spirits, and that's where you prepare your drinks because it had, like, a felt surface on the shelf that came down.   I said, mate, Nick, I said,   there's there's no room in my house for that.   Are you having a laugh?   And, you know, this shows you what the the fur the furniture that was made back then was made for the houses that existed   back then.  

You know?   Yeah. So everyone's being squeezed into a smaller, smaller space. So   quite often, people haven't got a choice but to sit in the lounge or the living room or whatever you wanna call it, the sitting room,   and have dinner because there's no such thing as a dining room anymore.  

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No. No. Valid point. And now I feel bad for saying that because I'm sure there's lots of people that would actually like to sit around the table. But then I suppose there's the other hand, if you've got to sit down together on the couch, turn off the TV.  

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That's just about to say. It doesn't  

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mean you've got to have the bloody television on, does it? No. No. You know?  

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No. We never had the TV on. We used to always sit down at the table and have dinner as a family.   You know, we do that now every night as well.   So  

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Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I have to I have to admit   that,   the TV,   although we don't have a TV license, so we don't watch terrestrial   TV in the house.   But I have to admit,   I'm very guilty of putting on fail army while we have dinner.  

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I don't know. I think as you get older, things change as well, don't they? But, you know, your children are older as well.  

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Yes. That's true.   That's true. But then, I guess, also, we're we're quite a close family.   There are you know, obviously, my son doesn't live with me anymore,   or live with us anymore. He's moved up to Cardiff. He's just landed you know, he was working at McDonald's two years ago, as I said last week. He's just landed himself a 32,000   a year job.   You know? Nice. He's doing alright for himself. He's forced his own path.   He hasn't you know, he was paying two rents actually for about three months because he was, you know, contracted into a house, and he couldn't get it couldn't couldn't get out of a a flat.   And an opportunity came up of a of a house share.  

So So rather than miss the opportunity, he ended up paying two rents, and he was living off of virtually nothing.   Did he once ask us for help? No.   You know?  

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Credit to him, and that's your parenting?  

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It's also a little bit of pride, I think, but I think, you know, he he wants the life that he's forged for himself up there.   So Yeah. And I don't think, you know, the the prospect of just coming back down to Corewalk, for what?  

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You you are not gonna get the opportunities down here that he's got up there in the city, I guess. You know? So No. You're not. You're not. Not unless you go self employed or something. And I I think that's one of the main reasons   youngsters seek to move out of Cornwall. It's not the opportunities for the jobs that they want to do. Yeah. Yeah. Very much so.  

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You know?   Yeah. Well, look. I mean, we're a bit close to the top of the hour to be able to play that next clip that you wanted to play. So  

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I I I would like to stay on subject, Maleficus, just because it's still on the Barnum World theme. Yes. Okay. How about we play it, and we'll have a quick chitchat before we do a song, and then we can continue it afterwards because I know what you wanna talk about will follow on. Oh, well, yeah. Well, we we can talk about any of that,  

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as well.   Yeah. My opinion on the bottom world thing   was   it is one of those movies that you can send to anyone.   It's not gonna offend anyone.   It's not gonna well, there were a couple of upsetting bits in it, I found.   There were a couple of upsetting bits in it,   like the policing   incident where that innocent guy got shot. I found that quite upsetting.   All genuine footage, folks, by the way.   And the other bit of footage I found really, really upsetting was the the old veteran.   Yes. Yes. That was very cool,   wasn't it?  

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You know, the guy But it is mixed with it's mixed with comedy, isn't it? It's quite thing is It wasn't what I was expecting. I didn't realize it was a comedy,   But I love the guy that did it as well. It was brilliant. He was brilliant. So, look, highly recommended, folks. Barnum World.  

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If you can just go onto YouTube, b a r n u m,   world, and just just give it a watch. And if you feel the need, send it on   to every single one of your mates and all your family.   Yes. Do it. Do it. Do it. Okay. So we're gonna play another clip now from from Barnum World.   Yeah. See what you think about this, folks.  

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If you compare   the   movie and   television   programming  

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Wrong one. Wrong one. Sorry.   I did not have to stuff together. I'm not perfect. We've already established that. Okay?   So, okay, this is this is the clip I meant to play.  

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I was given   a glass of Kool Aid,   and so were the other children.   This   Kool Aid   was spiked with LSD.   It was horrible.  

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In the early days of the Cold War, the CIA ordered the creation of a secret program intended to find ways in mind control.   They funded an army of psychiatric institutions across The United States and Canada to perform experiments on unsuspecting patients using psychedelic drugs, sensory deprivation, electroshock treatment, and more.   The program was known by its code name, MK Ultra.  

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It was the most secret program ever conducted by the CIA   in The United States.   Patients at psychiatric   hospitals,   prisoners in federal institutions, and even people   in the public were given drugs   without their awareness or consent and   experimented upon.  

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Initial projects within at Gay Ultra included Operation Midnight Climax.  

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They established what were called safe houses   where,   prostitutes   would lure men to these apartments.   And then once the men were in the apartments, they were toast with LSD,   and then they were basically studied by CIA scientists usually behind a two way meter act.  

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Electronic mind control research is not new.   A scientific milestone in this area came in the nineteen sixties when doctor Jose Delgado demonstrated remote control over a charging bull.   By connecting a radio antenna to electrodes inserted into the bull's brain, Delgado proved that the animal's aggressive impulses could be forwarded by   electronically manipulating the bull's muscle reflexes.  

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Any function in the   brain, emotions,   intellect,   personality,   well, could be perhaps modified   by this noninvasive   technology.  

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These tactics, they've been around a long time. But the power they wield today is inconceivable   compared to, really, just a hundred years ago.   We are truly living in the golden age of brainwashing   and mind control.  

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The US government's defense advanced research projects agency,   commonly known as DARPA,   announces a bold initiative   to develop what they call next generation nonsurgical   neurotechnology.   It is designed to allow the human brain   to directly interface   with   machines.  

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We can have a sensor   of our head or maybe implanted somewhere in our body, in our brain, or or something   that allows us to interact directly with our communications   gear, our processing gear, our weapon systems.   Maybe the next step is   we can send instructions and information   to an actual person   from a distance with this kind of technology   to let another person control their actions.   But that could be something that could   be  

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malicious. In the near future,   Dutma may possess the technology to remotely control the human mind.  

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The mind control and the programming that I've touched on,   it's it's a tool,   but it's also a weapon.   See, if you can convince a large part of   an entire population   to question   fundamental reality,   like,   a man can have a baby.   That's very powerful.   See, identity confusion,   degeneracy,  

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those are weapons.   In 02/2008, Thomas Beatty, a man, gave birth not by a c section to a healthy baby girl. His pregnancy was a pretty big deal. He was on Oprah, became a public speaker, and later gave birth to two more children. Beatty is one of a number of transgender men who have elected to have a child. But one of the many non heartwarming reactions to the Beatty story was that his pregnancy didn't count because he was designated female at birth and had a uterus.  

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I was assigned female at birth. So you'll hear the term AFAD.   That means assigned female at birth. And if you hear AMAB, that means assigned male at birth. When it comes to my gender identity,   I am gender nonconforming,   genderqueer,   or nonbinary.   Miss Audrey, Marilyn,  

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can men get pregnant?  

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Mister chairman?   Yes.  

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Do do you believe then that men can become pregnant and have abortions?  

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Yes.   Is denying that trans people exist and pretending not to know that they exist. I'm denying that trans people exist by asking you if you're talking about women Are you? And in pregnancies. Do you believe that, men can get pregnant? No. I don't think they can. So you are denying that trans people with this thing?   Trans people with  

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this  

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thing?   And  

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that   leads  

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to   violence?  

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I I was in stitches because,   obviously, it was a woman that gave birth, but because she changed to transgender,   she was the first   man to have a baby.   But this, oh my craggy, do you know what? My son's school now, they've got a list of clubs that came out   yesterday, and every other week they have a meeting for the LGBT   community,   if I've said that right.  

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I think you missed out Q letters, W T. Oh yeah, Q.  

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But The point   is, they are putting these ideas in our children's head   and today   somebody has shared a tweet   which   the NHS have actually published   about pregnancy.   And it's got three people in the picture. I'm in the cartoons.   The first one is a man   with a baby belly, and then we've got a woman with a baby in the belly, and then we've got a black woman with a baby in the belly. And you can see the difference between the man because he haven't got the breasts. I'll I'll have to send you the cartoon, but this is what the NHS are putting out there now?  

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Yeah. It's a it's a little bit worrying, isn't it? I mean, you know,   we'll touch on it in a bit, but, you know, during the,   protests in London last week, there were things said on the stage   that you could potentially get into trouble for saying   on Twitter or or not Twitter. It's x now, isn't it? And, you know, all so so   some things that were said on that stage, and one of them was by Katie Hopkins saying there are only two genders and blah blah blah blah blah blah.   You know,   the idea that you can going back to that other clip, the other Barnum clip, you know, you give a child something shiny with ribbons on it. Of course, they're gonna go for it. And if, you know, if if   look. I mean, even adults who are not happy with their lot in life   will clutch at the first thing that gives them some sort of appeasement   even if it's a quick fix.  

Now   there was another section   after that where a a girl stood up in front of the senate   saying that, you know,   surgeons had removed her healthy breast tissue and all that kind of thing and reassigned her as a as a guy   because she was confused as a kid, and they've taken away her right   to have a baby. You   know?   Obviously, she'd got to to the age where she actually understood what was going on in the world   and regretted the choices she'd made. And do you know what, Shelley? One of my favorite interviews that you ever did   was with that trans guy.  



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Taran. I can't remember his surname. Yeah.  

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That was you know, it it actually, I've got to admit when I first started listening to it, I thought, I don't think I wanna listen to this. And then I thought, no. No. Come on. Look. The the only thing, you know, if you enter into a conversation without the idea that your paradigm can be changed, you are simply airing your views. And I thought, no. I'm gonna stick with this. And it turned out, honestly, Shelley, one of my favorite interviews that you've ever done.  

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Oh, thank you. Well, it just goes to show, though, doesn't it? He had body dysmorphia.   And now, like he said in the interview,   he went through it, and he still didn't feel any different. And he realizes that he was brought up around drag queens and stuff like that from the age of three,   and his mind just had it that these figures were amazing and beautiful, and he wanted to be a woman.   And, of course, he went through the whole sex change thing,   still wasn't happy.   And then he resorted to having it reversed, but, obviously, he couldn't have a penis attached.   So, even now, every day, he's got to look at his scars on his breasts in the mirror where he's had them removed   and go into the toilet anywhere he's got to sit down.  

And this was all to do with mental health.  

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Yes.   Exactly that. And if you fan the flames of mental health, the fire will consume you.   Yeah. You know, of mental ill health, should I say. If you fan the flames of mental ill health, the fire will consume you. And, look, I've got a friend.   I'll I'll touch on it after the break, but I had I had a friend from Belgium who he was a great guy.   And, a few years later, he told me that he was becoming a woman.   We'll get into that after the break. You're listening live, folks, to radiosoapbox.com,   and it is the Shelley Tasker. Shelley Tasker Show. It is indeed.   It is indeed. Okay. Here's your tune, Shelley.  



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Thank you.  

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I won't let you down.   I will not give you up.   And I have some faith in the sound. It's the only thing that I've got.   I won't let you down,   so please don't give me up.   Because I would really, really love it. Just stick around.  

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There you go. It's quite Welcome back. Quite quite apt. And in actual fact, that was quite an apt song to play.  

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Can you guess what I Googled?   What song sort of stuff?   Freedom.  

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Well, you know,   you know, George George Michael throughout the eighties was a heartthrob   of all the women.   My sister was a huge fan of George Michael. It didn't make a it didn't make a blind bit of difference.   He was still a heartthrob   for my sister even when   he came out as gay.  

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Yeah. I can remember that, and I would have been quite young as well, but I can remember.  

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Well, it was becoming very popular back then. And and, obviously, there was all the jokes that he was sleeping with Andrew Ridgely.   Whether he was or not, I don't know after this is complete.   Yeah. But, again,   I suppose we weren't touching on sexuality. We were touching on body dysmorphia and all that kind of thing. But, you know, this is all part of a a a thing that's being pushy. We're talking about the LGBTQWTF   stuff being pushed in schools.   Sorry. Do I get those letters wrong? I'm sorry. I'll get you I don't know because there's you've forgotten the rest. Thousand letters on on all of it. So I just, yeah, I just No. There are now the last lot.  

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Yeah. There's now a 126,   type of sexes.  

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Is there really? Could you could you could you list could you list them all for me right now? Not right at this moment. No. But there is.  

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Anyway.  

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You know,   you know, I mean, I I I actually looked up while you were,   busy listening to the song, I actually looked up the things that he was convicted   of.   Obviously, the main thing was, falling asleep at the wheel under the influence of drugs,   and he crashed his car into a photographic shop in London. But,   you know, drugs use, legal troubles, and he made headlines after an arrest for public lewdness lewdness   in, 1998   and multiple   drug related   offenses.   Well, I mean, not being funny, but all these stars are chewed up and spat out by the industry anyway. You've only got to look at the likes of Amy Winehouse and all those sorts of folks.   But   getting back on on topic,   you know, we were talking about   essentially the Barnum World thing   and,   MK Ultra, mind control. Yes.  

So there was there was another operation which went on alongside   MK Ultra.   Now let me just see if I can find the right page because it's it's a big old book. So there's a book here, that I've got in front of me. It's got by a guy called Tom O'Neil,   who also happened to be batting for the other side, but that doesn't take away from his research. The book consists of twenty twenty odd years of research into the, Charles Manson murders and the murder of Sharon Tate.   And,   so Charles Manson was   very involved,   whether he was a tool of or whether he was a willing   tool of the MK Ultra and chaos   program. So chaos was an operation which went alongside  

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the,  

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the,   MK Ultra thing. So MK Ultra and chaos well, chaos itself let me just find the page. So MK Ultra   revolved around,   the use of LSD to see if literally, to see if they could create memories   in people that never existed   beforehand   because they thought it would be a very, very useful tool,   which, of course, it would be.   So hang on. There we go. So   I'm just gonna gonna read this,   this little excerpt here from the I've got a couple of excerpts actually which are worth going over. So just bear with me while I find the appropriate things. I mean, one of the things revolving around the MK Ultra,   project was have you ever heard of Tusko the elephant?  

No. Okay. So Tusko the elephant. I'm gonna I'm gonna read what it says on Wikipedia here for you.   Where are we?   So Tusko was a male Indian elephant who was subject to a controversial drug experiment at the zoo.   When it was known,   the Lincoln Park Zoo on   when it was known as when when it was known as the Lincoln Park Zoo there you go. There's a there's a there's a thing for you, Lincoln Park. Look at what happened to the guy,   revolved around the the lead singer of Lincoln Park.   On   08/03/1962,   researchers from the University of Oklahoma,   well, it wasn't researchers.  

It was actually a government operative, injected him   with nine hundred and twenty seven milligrams   of LSD,   which is nearly 3,000   times that a human would use for recreational dose,   for an animal weighing roughly one hundred times as much as a human.   So   within five minutes, he collapsed to the ground, and one hour and forty minutes later, he died. It was believed that the LSD was the cause of his death, although some speculate that the drugs the researchers use in an attempt to revive him may have also contributed   to his death. So,   you know, it was this   particular experiment was   performed by a doctor West,   doctor Louis   West.  

The Central Intelligence Agency subcontracted   West for its top secret MK Ultra program,   although he denied it for the rest of his life. West found notoriety in 1962.   This is not from Wikipedia. This is from,   Tom O'Neil's book.   West found notoriety in 1962   when one of his experiments led him to inject an elephant with enough LSD to kill it in an accidental overdose.   While the fact never came out, funding for this debacle came from the CIA.   How about that?   So the CIA was also operating   this,   this,   chaos operation, an operation named chaos. Now let me see if I can just find it because I'm still flicking through.   There we go.  

August   1967,   the same month Hoover launched Co intel Pro, CIA director Richard Helms inaugurated the agency's aforementioned aforementioned   illegal domestic surveillance program, CHAOS, which also employed agents and informants to infiltrate   subversive groups   and neutralize them.   CHAOS was born of Lyndon joints Lyndon Johnson's neurosis.   In the '67,   the president was convinced that that the divided disorderly America he led couldn't possibly be the product of his own policies.   Foreign agents and presumably foreign money must be to blame.   He ordered the CIA to prove that the nation's dissidents, I. E. The opposition to certain wars that were going on at the time,   Vietnam,   started up by Jim Morrison's father, I might add,   and especially its antiwar movement had their origins abroad.  

Richard Helms complied without hesitation.   In the six years that followed, the CIA tracked thousands of Americans,   insulating its information gathering so thoroughly that even those at the top of its counterintelligence   division were clueless about its domestic surveillance.   Chaos kept tabs on 300,000   people.   More than 7,000   of them American citizens   American citizens. Now I'm just gonna stop there in this text. I just plant a seed for people.   If they could do that back in '67,   while all you buggers are carrying around mobile phones, how easily do you think they can keep tabs on you now?   Don't you go off on one about mobile phones? No. No. I'm back to the back to the text. The agency the agency shared information with the FBI, the White House, and the justice department. At its   peak, Chaos   had 52 dedicated agents, most of whom served to infiltrate   anti war groups   like their counterparts in the FBI.  

They   under undercover, they hope to identify   Russian instigators.   No. They didn't.   They never found any. It was a bit like weapons of mass destruction, isn't it? Mhmm. With the Interdivision   Intelligence Unit, the IDIU,   a new branch of the justice department outfitted with sophisticated   computerized   databases.   They collaborated on a list of more than 10,000 names, all thought to be dangerous activists.   The IDIU   produced regular reports on these people hoping to predict their activities.   The journalist Seymour Hersh got wind of chaos in late nineteen seventy four, and he told James Jesus Angleton, the head of the CIA counterintelligence,   and William Colby, the director of the CIA,   which is   another big story back then.  

I won't go into that because otherwise, we'll just get confused.   About CIA domestic activities.   Colby was forced to admit that Hirsch's findings were accurate,   and Angleton   resigned from the agency. The story broke on December 22 on the front page of The New York Times. Huge CIA operation reported in The US   against anti war forces and other dissidents   in the Nixon years.   The church committee probed the CIA's illegal activities as did a separate government investigation.   The Rockefeller Commission.   Oh, yeah.   But Mueller was able to penetrate   the the agency's veil of secrecy.  

Really?   With the money that the Rockefeller,   Foundation has got?   Just Yeah. Quite unlikely. Yeah. Since the CIA had no right to operate on American soil,   the program should have been bought even,   should have bought even more censure censure than COINTELPRO.   Instead, it drew only a muted   response.   CIA leadership stonewalled every opportunity   even if it even if they hadn't, investigators were crippled by a dearth of information.   When Richard Helms had disbanded chaos before leaving office in 1973,   he ordered the the destruction of every file pertaining to it. And since the seventies, almost nothing has come out. The operation   hardly left a footprint.  

Even if reams of paperwork had survived, the Rockefeller Commission was hardly willing to press the agency.   While the Commission made some shocking findings, evidence of wiretaps, bugging, hidden   burglaries, in addition to the extensive record keeping mentioned above,   by the end of the seventies, well after it had been disbanded, allegations arose that it had suppressed information.   Its chairman, vice president   Nelson   Rockefeller, had worked with the c I day CIA in the late fifties. Excuse me. I'm getting ahead of myself in in the sentences here. Just so   in a memoir, former CIA director Colby later claimed that president general Ford fired him for refusing to help Rockefeller   sabotage   his own   investigation.  

According to Colby, chaos was so highly classified   that even he, the director of the CIA,   didn't have access to it. Who could have had access to it, folks?   Who possibly could? Anyway, moving on.   I found it impossible to do much about whatever was wrong with chaos, he wrote. Its super secrecy and extreme compartmentalization   kept me very much on its periphery.   So   the whole idea,   of   MK Ultra   and chaos,   was largely as the clip,   pointed towards alluded towards the fact that they were using LSD   on they were experimenting with LSD on a massive scale,   on the general public,   on unwilling,   forces men.  

There's a there's an article   here,   San Antonio News, airman charged in brutal sex slaying   of a San Antonio child.   Thrice wed men   held death of tiny girl,   held in death of tiny girl. So this guy,   basically, in the nineteen fifties around the time   when he researched mind control techniques for the CIA,   West doctor West inserted himself into the case of Jimmy Shaver,   a Texas airman convicted of raping and murdering a three year old girl.   Shaver claimed to have no memory of the crime.   Obviously, whether he did have memory of it or not, this was all part of this,   MK Ultra. Yeah. There's there's so much to this.  



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So they set it so did they set it up? Did that actually happen, or was that just a memory that you planted in him? It happened. It  

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happened. And if you read the book, chaos I I can't recommend the book enough, actually. It is a really good read.   I've I've got a copy. You can borrow, Shelley, if you wanna borrow it.   It basically, what the guy was hoping to do was uncover the truth behind the Manson murders.   And,   when you look at the film, Helter Skelter,   Helter Skelter is about the Manson murders, but it is the guy the guy the the chief prosecutor against Manson, it was his   it was his made up story,   and that's what they made a film out of.   Manson was heavily involved,   with what they call these,   well, the the High Ashbury free clinic.  

Was a free health care service in Northern California,   and they offered,   basically   free clinics for hippies who ended up coming down with syphilis and this, that, the other from the summer of love and and all that kind of thing. Yeah. They ended up coming down with all these diseases, and they were they were taken in and experimented upon.   And Manson   is is one of the key operators   in in all or or one of the key operatives   in the respect that   he knew full well what was going on. I'd I'm I'm reading through the book.   I don't think for a minute,   actually, that he and his cronies were responsible   for the Sharon Tate murder. You know about the Sharon Tate murders?  



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I don't. It sounds familiar. So have you heard of Roman Polanski?  

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No. So Roman Polanski is a is a very, very   famous director   in The US, and he was married to Sharon Tate. She was pregnant with his baby when she was murdered.   And this all happened   around the sort of,   well, around the Laurel Canyon area. Have you heard of Laurel Canyon?   No.   Oh my goodness. Ignorant, aren't I? No. No. No. No. You're just in for a treat. A bit of a nightmare, but you're in for a treat when it comes to finding out new information.   I've got, another book that I'll send you.   I can send you both Yeah. We'll just keep adding them to my reading list, Maleficus. Oh, why don't you both of them as PDFs so you can actually have your Mac read them to you if you Oh,  

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I like that. Okay.  

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But   there was so much more to the to the Sharon Tate murders than than the   story would have you believe.   I don't think Manson was anywhere near   Sharon Tate when she was murdered.   In fact, it was put down to his his family because, you know, Manson had his own little commune   up the up the, valley from where,   Laurel Canyon is. There was another canyon, and he had his own little the family there. It was a little little hippie commune where they all used   to get hired as kites and   and and bug up little boys and things like that. It was really not a very, pleasant   thing. It's really not a very pleasant subject.  

But,   all this you know, the Sharon Tate operation was all part of the MK Ultra and Chaos operations.   So I can't recommend that book enough. It's actually released by Penguin Books. It's a fairly recent book, actually. Tom O'Neil,   regardless of what you think about his sexual preferences, you cannot fault   his,   ability to research.   And the book is an eye opening one. So do definitely have a look at that if you can, folks.   So it's available at every HMV store, actually.  

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Oh, I like it. I like it.   Yeah. I did a bit of research a while ago about m k ultra, actually, and a lot of it has to do with this LA,   LSD stuff, how they, gave people LSD. I can't remember too much because it's probably about a year ago now, and my brain, unfortunately, doesn't hold information.  

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Just before you say that, I just had a message from Patrick.   Jolly it was jolly west. Yes. It was jolly west that did the elephant.   Jolly west also created crack cocaine, he says. There you go. That's interesting, isn't it?   Crack cocaine are probably one of the most you know,   apart from nowadays, things like crystal meth was probably one of the most destructive drugs to ever hit the street.  

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Fascinating  

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stuff. So sorry. Carry on with your train of thought there. I I I I I No. It's gone. My my thought's gone.  

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I'm sorry. Well, no. It could no. Don't be silly. Don't be silly. But it it could lead on, actually,   to something that I wanted to mention before the top of the hour.   Let me find now this kind of went viral last week,   and I couldn't stop reading about it. And I'm sure it'll be turned   into a documentary   or a movie   anytime soon.   But it's about a GP   surgeon   who had both of his legs amputated.  

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Yeah. I've heard about this too. Yeah. Yeah. This was Truro Crown Court as well, wasn't it? Yeah. Yeah. So this is very close to us, folks. This is like Very close. A 20 drive. Exactly. Truro Crown Court for us,   down here in Cornwall, is, like, the biggest court there is in in Cornwall.  

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Right. Well, what's interesting as well is I must imagine now anybody that he's performed amputated   surgery on has probably thought, did he do it for his own sexual gratification,   or did I actually need my leg removed? Anyway,   so I've I've got this clip. So the story of Neil Hopper,   the name, isn't that funny? Neil Hopper, he's got no legs. Anyway  

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Well, it would be if he'd only amputate it in one leg.  

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Oh, god. Yeah. True. True.   So the story of Neil Hopper is shocked and stunned. Sorry. It's okay. It's okay. It's brilliant. I I didn't realize that was his name. That's fantastic.   Well,   so the story is shocked and stunned with the formula vascular surgeon currently serving a thirty two month sentence   after he had his own legs purposefully amputated   and tried to defraud defraud insurers   out of just under £500,000.   As well as pleading guilty to the above, Hopper also admitted to three charges of possessing extreme pornographic videos linked to an extreme modification site known as the eunuch maker.   Oh, boy. Was known to yeah. The site was known to host videos   featuring the castration of males as young as 16   with the hawk hearing   court hearing that Hopper had a sexual interest in amputation.  

After being suspended from the Royal Cornwall Hospitals Trust in March 23, Hopper was charged in July.   Some former patients have already raised their concerns that they might been given unnecessary surgery   with a legal firm representing them now demanding a full and public investigation.   So in the aftermath of a shocking interview resurfacing where Hopper recounted how his legs had to be amputated when they became infected with sepsis,   More details have emerged.   Notably, Judge James Atkin was told how Hopper purposely damaged his legs with ice and dry ice as a way to have them amputated.   There's no denying that the work Hopper did for raising awareness of those who faced amputation,   with him even winning the against award title at the amplification   no. Ampliform Awards for Brave Britain's 2020.  

Still, his story is now painted in a very different light, with some taking to social media to share the condolences   with his family.   A look online shows that his Instagram account of bion surgeon is still active at the time of writing, giving a concerning look into the life that he portrayed in front of the truth.   Hopper's most recent post is from January 23 showing off what looks like a robot hoover.   A recent comment on the post reads, if this guy's sick wife is still with him, she needs to lock this page down considering today's nudes. Her kids do not need to deserve this exposure.   Other posts have been slowly hit with comments and in another where he shared a ask me anything about life as an amputee,   someone else wrote, why did you purposely cause the amputation of your legs?  

One comment on a picture of one of his kids states, someone needs to set this account to private for the children's sake.   Anyway, the point I've been delving in further into it and he became part of this group where they reckon throughout The UK alone,   22,000   people   have subscribed   and paid ridiculous   money   to watch online   people be castrated   and have their nipples removed and things like this.   One guy has come forward who said that he was in a very dark place, had body dysmorphia and stuff like that. And he found this page and he just thought that people were there to help him and stuff like that. Well, they gave him a massive dose   of a anti testosterone   injection   that made him then feel   that he was actually not a man and he needed to be a woman.  

And he was so highly drugged and he agreed to the castration   that was viewed by about 22,000   people. So he's now come forward and said that because of the drugs induced that totally messed up his head,   this video was live.   But   I just it's a horror story, and I can't believe that this well, I can believe this sort of stuff goes on. I love stuff like this. Call me sick. I like dark things. I don't like it like it,   but I find it fascinating. Yeah. Yeah. It fascinates me. So this guy was, like, famous a couple of years ago, standing up for this cause for the amputee society,   won awards,   and come to find out, all because of his little sexual fetish,   he froze his own legs in dry ice to have them amputated.  

Oh, my. So he's now in prison. Well, so he should be. So he should be. But he's obviously got body dysmorphia.   Very but then I don't know. Body dysmorphia,   they do say that there are rare, like, occasions when somebody feel like this arm, for example.   I don't and then this is obviously mental illness, isn't it? Because this arm doesn't belong to me. This arm is I can't stand the feeling of my arm. I want it gone. Whereas in other cases, I've got a penis and I don't want the penis. If I take away the penis, I'll be a woman and stuff like that.   But the guy that he was dealing with has been jailed for life   for organising   this website.  

They are known as UNIX, I think that's the word, when they're   nonsexual.   This happened   in the court case last week and I was just like, I'm fascinated   by it. The things that people do.   Don't The weirdness.  

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Don't we live, Shelley,   in a sick,  

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sick Yes. Society?  

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Yeah. The eunuch maker. Word. My word. Well, look. We've come to the bottom of the hour.   You're listening live, folks, to radiosoapbox.com.   It is the Shelley Tasker Show.   I've got the perfect song, I think, to play   after no. I genuinely have. This is a song called Oh, No, Rodriguez.  

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In the back,   streets of Naples.   Backpacking   of life.   Carmen   was smoking   and brandishing   at night.  

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You don't understand our customs.   It isn't very nice   to have sex with your friend's mother.   And you have done it twice.   You have spitted on my family.  

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And for that, I will break your neck, miss.   Karmad stamped on his cigar alone.   She crushed both his castanets.  

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You went in as Rodriguez,   as Dolores. He came out.  

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Brilliant.  

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That that one was from the Pure Original Archive, folks. If you want any of the tunes that you hear from the Pure Original Archive, give me a shout and I can, point you in the right direction.   Hat off to the guy that produced that tune. That was that was probably the most comedic tune I ever got sent.  

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Oh, I loved it. I loved it. So   I know you want to go on to the whole Tommy Robinson  

[01:34:41] Unknown:

thing, so I've just got one quick thing to say. Well, no. It's alright. We we there's plenty of time for that, but it's alright. I I won't spend too long on it because Oh, yeah. To be quite frank, Steven Yaxley Lennon is not worth that much airtime.   But,  

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Okay. Alright. I just wanted to say something that's happened today, and I don't know if you'd heard about it. And I I think it's absolutely   hilarious.   Basically,   you know I don't know if you do know, but today Donald Trump and his wife have arrived in The UK. I did hear rumours, he hasn't knocked on my door yet. I've got a few questions for him.   But what they did was,   four people have been arrested, okay,   because   they projected   images of Trump and Epstein   up on one of the towers.   I just think that's brilliant.   I've seen the video footage of it but on these great big towers, I can't find the page now where I have the,   stuff.  



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But, basically, yeah, they projected big pictures. So I just think what a welcome for Donald Trump. Well, so they should. I mean, I'm not being funny. And the fact that he's going to meet royalty I mean, let's let's face it. You know, who who else out of royalty was involved with,   Epstein?  

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Well, yes. Well, exactly.  

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Yeah. I think it's a very poignant, thing to project,   on the largest towers you could possibly   find.  

[01:36:09] Unknown:

Yeah. It was on Windsor Castle as well.   Was it really? Yeah. I'll send you the link, but they've done it massively. I've watched the videos.   It's brilliant.   Oh my god. Admire people that have, like, got these amazing ideas.  

[01:36:23] Unknown:

So so was anyone arrested?  

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Yeah. Four people were arrested.  

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Right. That's interesting. Interesting indeed. Well, I mean, you know, the thing is the whole thing with the   forget about Trump's   connections to Epstein   for a second.   Just go you know, think about Epstein himself. I mean, I I personally   believe that the guy isn't dead.  

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No. I don't think he's dead neither. Of course. He's he's sipping he's sipping  

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champagne on the West Bank somewhere or, you know, whatever.   You know,   you know, that with Gilaine,   Gilaine or Gislaine, Gilaine Maxwell, whatever.   Gislaine Maxwell, whatever you wanna call her.   You know? Alright. Big hoo was made about all that.   And Trump was gonna drain the swamp, remember, and all that nonsense.   Yeah. People have got very short memories. Oh, we're gonna make America great again, aren't we? We gotta bring this country together. A couple of Barnum statements for you there.   But, you know, all the hoo was made about that. Oh, and isn't it great that they caught him? Well, who is he supplying children to?  

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Yeah. Exactly.  

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Nobody's of people are asking that this week. Circle. Nobody squared that thing. People are questioning it, though, all over social media this week. Time. I mean, isn't that really funny? Everyone, like, jumps about, oh, isn't this great? We've had a little victory. We've we've we've caught some pedos. No. You haven't. You've just caught the traffickers. You haven't caught any of the pedos.  

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Maleficus, do you know what? You know when you put on your little voice? Yes. I think I think you should do panto   and play the dame. I think you'd be brilliant.  

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I I can't keep it up for long. I can't I can't keep it up for long.  

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And were you very good at it anyway?  

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So It's just,  

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it just beggars belief. People are so shortsighted.   They really are. So shortsighted.   Oh, what a what a great victory. We've managed to, you know, in   incarcerate Ghislaine Maxwell and yeah. And who was Ghislaine Maxwell,   related to? Who was her father?   Robert Maxwell,   you know, who basically was a a   he he was   an MI five and a Mossad agent,   you know,   and   he mysteriously   drowned,   fell off of his yacht   somewhere, you know, while he was out. You know? And   I don't know whether you ever heard the Maria Farmer   telephone calls. Did you?   No. Oh my goodness. You're in for a treat there. It's a very educational week for you this week, Shelley. It's his, isn't it? I don't know if I can contain it all, to be honest with you. Well, there's there's, like for replay. There's three and a half hours of telephone call between Maria Farmer and another lady. The the name escapes me. I'm sure Patrick will probably put it in the chat in a bit.  

The last message he put is, what are we listening to? Patrick, you were listening to Arnaud   Rodriguez.   So   but,   it you know, Ghislaine   basically wept apparently at one point because,   Maria Farmer was an was an aid in in her house.   She she wept apparently saying the bastards killed him, and she never elaborated on who.   I don't think they killed him at all. I mean, if you bear in mind that the guy, Robert Maxwell, is buried   on Temple Mount, which is the most sacred mountain   in in   in Palestine.   I refuse to call it   Israel. So,   you know, if they bumped him off, what what were they doing burying him there?  

You know?   Mhmm.   So Yes.   He was a he was a great asset and a great he did a great service to to the,   the world stage, should we say. The globalist did a great service to the globalists.   As I say, we've never come across   any of the we've never been given a list of people that Epstein was trafficking children to. There's a lot, you know, there's a lot of hoo about the the flight logs to Epstein Island and that kind of thing. But, again, I go back to what I've I I continually say,   great quote for one of the best quotes actually   from Franklin Delano Roosevelt   was nothing in politics   happens   by   accident.  

And if it keeps the the waters muddied so the people don't know where they're where, you know, where they're running, don't know where to look,   then,   you know, nothing in politics happens by accident.   And going going on to the this. Right? So that's a perfect segue into,   Stephen Yaxley Lennon's,   protest this week, quote, unquote. AKA Tommy Robinson.   Yeah. You know? And how sad is it that you got all these   bozos, drunken bozos in in the in the crowd chanting, Tommy Tommy Tommy Robinson.   Tommy Robinson.   Yeah.   Absolutely flipping brain dead.  

Brain   dead.   So you're about to enter a a a male rant for the week. So   one of the points I brought up on Blackbird's show was, yeah, you if you if you look at the   the amount of speakers, you had Laurence Fox, a member of the, UK   broadcasting establishments, Fox family.   You had,   some guy from   where are we? Let me just bring up the little list here because I've got it here.   You had some Canadian guy who went by the name of   Ezra Isaac Levant,   another guy   called   Avi Gemini.   And Avi Gemini, he's an interesting one. So   Abraham   Shalom, Yemenis   is an Australian   Israeli   far right provocateur   and commentator. Well, they've got that right, haven't they?  

No difference, by the way, folks, between the far left and the far right. The whole thing is cyclical.   The, you know, the the the methods used by the far left are exactly the same methods used by the far right. Okay?   So whether you want to consider yourself on the left or you want to consider yourself on the right, you you're just all you're doing is creating division within your own mind.   That's it.   Okay?   So since 2020, he's worked as an Australian correspondent for Rebel News,   a Canadian   far right website. Yemini has been involved in numerous cases of litigation,   initiated by both him and against him. And what does it say about him? He was born in Melbourne, Australia.  

When it looks   when it looks oh, hang on. Something's changed   here.   Oh my goodness.   But no. No. It hasn't changed. No. I was just missing it. There we go. So nationality,   Australian   stroke Israeli.   How can you be   too Yeah. Racist. Right?   Just gonna ask that. Yeah. Okay. So if if if I'm born in Australia,   but I'm a Christian,   what does that make   me? Or if I'm born, you know, I just it just doesn't make any sense. Right? So you're either Australian or, you know, you're Cornish. Are you not, Shelley? I'm Cornish. I am. That's the way it goes. Born and bred. Yes. Do you know we're we're vying to be our own nation at this moment in time? I do. Yeah. Well, what a lot of nonsense because we never signed into The UK anyway. Absolute nonsense. Anyway, going back to the third speaker,   the third speaker was   Avi, short, short for his real full name, Avi Yemeni.  

And if you look on Google, just do a Google search for him, and it'll tell you on the right hand side. It'll give you all his lowdown, tells you the books he's written, tell you who his parents were.   It's funny actually that their name was Waks   as in w a k s. Anyway,   allegiance, it says. And you don't get that many people with allegiance   written next to their name on a Google search, but it says allegiance   Israel Education Yeshiva College.   They had various bits of entertainment on the stage. Did you notice, Shelley?   I did. Yeah. I did. One of the longest pieces of entertainment   was a bunch of New Zealand guys doing the hacker.  

What's that got to do with flying the British flag? I know. Sounds a little bit multicultural   to me. And then you've got, you know, in fact, the the entertainment was very multicultural.   So I I asked and wonder what half the people in the audience were thinking when all that was going on.   But then I kind of wonder what half the people in that audience were thinking anyway, not because they were flying the flying.  

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To play he wants to play both sides.   He's with everybody with the multiculturalism,   but then on the other side,   he wants our borders closed and stuff like that. It's like he's trying to appease both sides. No. He's not. He's just playing both sides. He's not appeasing anyone. He's just He's a Barnum player. He's an he's an I agent provocateur.  

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That's exactly   what he is.   I will say afterwards, you you you had Katie Hopkins   who has been in the mainstream   and the independent media because she was kicked out of the mainstream. Oh, well, that makes her a pariah, doesn't it? So she got up on stage   and went raving on about how this is how the Britain the streets of England should look. You know? If anyone   messaged that on social media, they'd get flipping locked up nowadays in British society.   Yeah. But she gets to stand on stage and say it. Why? Because her main place of education   was was Sandhurst Military Academy,   the the largest military academy in The UK.  

You know?   And then you get to Tommy Yaxley Lennon,  

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whatever his name is. I I get Tommy Robinson.   A k a. Oh, okay.  

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You may as well call him Lonnie Donegan at this point. It rhymes. Alright?   So   as I mentioned on Blackbird show,   at the weekend,   they did they did a a get a quick shout out to everyone that was there. Tommy did a and you could tell the guy was absolutely shitting himself. Sorry for the language, folks, but he was. His throat was going everything. He was you know, I expect the guy was expecting to get   the the same treatment that the   Charlie Kirk got given the week before.   Yeah. I think the guy was absolutely shitting himself. I gotta be honest.   The nerves were very, very obvious. I've been up on stage. Shelley, I don't know whether you've been up on stage, but sometimes   when the nerves get a hold of you, that's exactly what happens to your throat. Yeah. The the keywords, Shelley, in in this whole thing is, you know, him going on about, oh, the the the   the they're quaking the the the elite are quaking in the corridors of power because we're all here. No. They organized it.  

Yeah. Yeah. This is not a country being brought together. This is a country being divided.   And regardless of whether you know, and and it's all for the right reasons,   but how do you know, what's the best way, Shelley, to beat the opposition?  

[01:48:03] Unknown:

I don't know. Join them.   They say that if you can't beat them, join them. But I I actually don't know the answer, Maleficus, because through all of this   misinformation   to people that we think we're worshiping and, like, yeah, they're all for us, Tommy Robinson.   I'm also now, like,   what do we do? Because there's nobody out there  

[01:48:23] Unknown:

to look up to, to be inspired by because especially after watching Barnum World, what's the point? Well, no. There's there's a there's a great deal of point, and and and hopelessness is is really   is their end goal.   Right. Okay. Hopelessness is their end goal because if you're running around with your head up your ass and you don't know which way to run   Mhmm. Then they've got you, haven't they?   Yeah. True. And I I was having this conversation with my sister a few weeks   back. She's really worried about what a world she's gonna be leaving   when you know, for her daughter.  

She's really it keeps her up at night. It worries her.   And I said, look.   Here's here's the most important thing.   Family first,   community,   local community,   second.   Country comes third because, unfortunately, your country is being run by a bunch of   globalists. Let's put it that way. I was yeah. I would I promise that would be the last time I swore. So,   the your country is being run by a bunch of globalists,   and the only way for you to have any kind of cohesion at all is first in your house   and then in your local community.   And what did I say during all the COVID pushback?  

You know, the first thing you need   to do is get to know your neighbors up and down your street. Do any of you know them, or are you all on your mobile phones? Don't worry, Shelley. I'm not gonna start about it. Shut up with our phones.   Yeah.   Don't live your life through a a fake community on your mobile phone. You need to know your local community. So and I I said this on Andy's show back during the COVID times, Andy Hitchcock show.   Everyone should go look him up, by the way, if you haven't already. Achshow.com.   Fantastic content. And he's been providing fantastic content for for   for nearly a decade, I think, or maybe more or just about.  

You know,   if you know, the first thing you need is local community because if if if they want to knock on your next door neighbor and inject their children with a jab that the parents don't want them to have, you need the whole street to turn out and say sling your hook, don't you? You do. How do you do that without any cohesion   of the local level?   You can't,   which is why they've destroyed pubs by taxing them out of existence. You can get absolutely trolleys at home for the price it costs you for a couple of pints in a pub.   And that's where all the people used to gather as a local community and put the world to rights. We need to bring all that back.  



[01:50:59] Unknown:

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We do. We do. Absolutely.   And I love my village, and I've got a flag hung, and I know that I know what it's all about now but I've left that flag there   to spark conversations.   Yeah. No. You shouldn't. And it's worked. It's worked. Yeah. It doesn't mean that, actually, I'm all part of this, like, the whole raise the colors   group because I know what's behind that as well. Yeah. But because people are doing it, it's like, well, you know, there's lots of people, they don't have social media. They don't see what's going on. And somebody went past yesterday. He lives, I don't know, about 10 doors up, and he said, I like your flag.   I said, oh, thank you.  

He said, you're beginning to turn into your dad. I said, well, if it sparks a conversation, then that's what it's all about.   Yeah. So Absolutely.  

[01:51:46] Unknown:

Well, look, Shelley, it's been a brilliant show this week, and I It has been really good. Yeah. I haven't even got to the stuff that I was thinking about covering. But there we go. It's, it's it's all good. It's it'll all save for next week. All my stuff. It will? Largely historical anecdotes anyway. So it's, Well, let's not argue. You wanted talk about Tommy Robinson. You've had a stint. Let's not argue about airtime. Oh, no. I'm not worried about airtime in the slightest. No. It's been at the most, fifty fifty. Yeah. I'm joking. The the most important thing is I've enjoyed your company. Hope you've enjoyed your company. I've enjoyed yours. Yeah. Good to see you. Has in enjoyed joining in with us and shouting at us over over the airway.  

[01:52:26] Unknown:

Brilliant. Well, we'll be back the same time next week, people.  

[01:52:30] Unknown:

We will indeed. Thanks very much for your company folks. Take care.  

[01:52:34] Unknown:

Thank you.