In this episode of The Joe Rooz Show, Joe brings an engaging mix of guests and discussions. The first hour features author Michael Stangland, who shares insights into his debut novel "Junk World: The Ballad of Leroy Brown." Michael discusses his creative process, the challenges of traditional publishing, and his journey to self-publishing. He also delves into the inspiration behind his science fiction work and hints at future projects, including a children's fairy tale. The conversation touches on the broader themes of creativity, resilience, and the evolving landscape of publishing.
In the second hour, Joe is joined by executive producer Wayne Rankin for the "Wednesday with Wayne" segment. They discuss recent events, including the tragic shooting in Minnesota, and explore the spiritual and societal implications of such incidents. Wayne shares personal anecdotes and insights into the darker aspects of human nature, drawing from his experiences in Alaska and his work with food banks. The episode concludes with discussions on political and social issues, emphasizing the importance of understanding and addressing the underlying causes of societal unrest.
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(00:04:48) Introduction and Show Overview
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- Michael Strangeland
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Alright. Let's see. What else do we got? I think I do believe I do believe we've taken care of all of our housekeeping. Well, today, that brings us to our guest, Michael Strangeland. He joins us today. He has, published his debut novel, Junk World, The Ballad of Leroy Brown with the second book in the works. And then beyond that, he has a growing collection of manuscripts, scripts, and concepts always moving through various stages of creation. Michael balances this constant creative output while working in retail and caring for his grandmother. His debut novel, Junk World, takes readers to a planet of discarded machines where fighting where a fighting robot named Leroy Brown must find his way home, only to disc only to discover his fate is tied to a tyrant dog, a tyrant known as the top dog. Sorry.
It's a story of resilience, unexpected battles, and this and the search for hope in a broken world. Michael, are you out there? Are you ready to join us? Yes. Hello. Thank you. Alright. He's here. He made it. Outstanding.
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Well, welcome to the show. We don't have a huge audience,
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on the live side, but we do get much much better downloads after the fact, and our audio audience is much bigger than this. So, don't let the, the tens of listeners, scare you away.
[00:10:43] Unknown:
No. I mean, I look. I'm just hap I just enjoy appearing on these kind of shows in general. So big audience, small audience. I I I enjoy talking sometimes probably too much.
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That's what everybody says about me. I don't know how to shut up.
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Well, you've got I mean, you've got a show for it. So
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Well you got you got, like, what, six, seven days a week to say whatever's on your mind? Yeah. Well, yeah. That's that's right. Yeah. We got six days. It wasn't intended to be six days. Originally, it was supposed to be only three days a week, but, but we've added on a few extras because of just, you you know, just the way things work out, the way the schedules work out. You know, we do a Tuesday show with our with one of our sponsors, Ezra Healing. That's just strictly for them. And then on Thursday, usually, I take off Thursday night, but but Thursday, I was sick the last two weeks. So, I have to make up because I had to cancel some shows. So I have to I'm doing some makeup shows with some guests that we canceled. So that's tomorrow.
And then Friday night show, we got a regular full full slate for Friday night. And then, I think Saturday, this coming Saturday, I think I'm I'm doing a private show Saturday because I'm testing out some new some new equipment that we have. So, so not it's not gonna be for public consumption, but I'll still be doing work. So and then Sunday show, and then Mondays, and then Tuesdays, and then Wednesday. So, yeah, it's a pretty busy schedule, but, you know, people is you have a lot of time to I mean, if you like to talk, you've got a lot of time to do it. Yeah. You know how many times I I get text messages from friends that listen to the show or watch the show telling me to shut up and let the guest speak. It's it's it's really terrible. I'm I'm really bad at it. So, so let's see. So what's what's something that most people don't know about you but should?
[00:12:35] Unknown:
Well, that's yeah. I'm not I I can't say I necessarily have a good question for that off the top of my head. That's not something I frequently think about. Like, this is something people should know about me but don't. Because I think with the people that I am familiar with, if there's something that I think people should know, I usually don't have too much trouble making sure people know it.
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Okay. Fair enough. How about this?
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Well, actually, one thing that comes to mind k. That because this is this is kind of a funny thing because the actual pronunciation of my name is Stangland. Oh. See, the thing is now you're not the only person who's made that mistake. It's a regular thing. It's just oh, and just a long time back, I wound up taken to joking about it where for I guess I must be haunted by a really petty pirate. So in some ways, I kinda find so sometime so, you know, and and I think I mean, it's a dumb joke, but I think it's a fun joke. So sometimes this question of, do I actively wanna make sure people know, or do I wait and see if they mispronounce it, which which is what usually happens, which gives me the opportunity to make the joke.
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Alright. So what's the joke? Let's hear it. No. The I already I'm kidding. I'm joking. I'm I'm I'm playing Fair enough. I'm playing with you. But I know what you're saying though because my my last name is actually a lot longer than what it is for the show. I just shortened it for the show. Okay. Well, that's reasonable. But I, you know, growing up, you know, they used to call me Joe Ruz, in the neighborhood back in Brooklyn. So or Ruz. So it just stayed. My but my full last name is Ruziello. So,
[00:14:20] Unknown:
Yeah. That does sound that does sound like it could get complicated. Oh, it does.
[00:14:24] Unknown:
It's been mangled in so many ways. I just give up. I just like, yeah, it's it's close enough. That's fine. You know, it's all good. Alright. So, how about this one then? So, what's what's a go to beverage for you to help you unwind at the end of the day?
[00:14:41] Unknown:
Well, I don't know if I have, like, one at the end of the day, a beverage that help me helps me unwind. Though, if I do have a go to beverage, it would probably be just general milk because I go through a lot of that. Well, that's a body good. Right? Yeah. No. I it's yeah. I mean, there's yeah. I yeah. It's like one of those things where, you know, you see the where, you know, milk obviously comes with expiration labels, but I never really have to worry about it because I never because even when I'm getting it by the gallon, I never have to worry about it expiring. It's just, you know, it's just a thing I enjoy drinking, and it's a good go to. It tastes good.
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Well, I I I I tease you a little bit about it only because you're you're the second person that I've asked that question to that have ants that's answered about milk. And and as a matter of fact, one of the previous guests, he he was the first one to mention that, and we actually share a common, I don't know if it's a phobia or not, but maybe maybe an anxious tic or something. But, we both go we both get nervous or or uncomfortable when we look in the fridge and we see we're we're down to a certain amount of milk left. It's like, I gotta go out and get more. And I don't know if I from myself. He he said that it had to do with the, the ad campaign, you know, got milk, you know, back then.
So he he thinks it's attributed to that in his case. In my case, I think it was because of my grandparents. My my grandparents' depression era, you know, every you had to make sure you always had the basics in the house, you know, and the basics to them was was milk, eggs, bread, and cheese. You gotta have all that. If you don't have if you don't have that, then you're in trouble. So my growing up, you know, that's all they would emphasize to us as we were growing up. Make sure you have this, this, this, and this, And God forbid, you were down to only a gallon of milk. You had to run out and get another one to have the backup. So
[00:16:48] Unknown:
No. I I totally understand that, because yeah. If I I I mean, I maybe don't go to that level, but if I see, like, oh, we're under a gallon of milk, I better either be I better both be careful to make sure I don't drink so so much that there's none in the fridge, and I better make sure because, like, as you mentioned, like, my day job is in retail, which yeah. I mean, I I mean, there are a whole bunch of things I could say about that, but one of the I mean, one of the things that I'd say is a benefit that you don't think about too much is that on it it's probably a good bet that I will soon be at this I'm gonna be at the store regardless. So even if I'm low on milk, I can just say, oh, I just need to make sure to pick up a new gallon when I come home Right. Next time I'm at work. Yeah. I I got you. I I I got you on that one. I I used to work. I used to I I can understand someone someone having that kind of mindset about, hey. There's this thing I think I really
[00:17:47] Unknown:
need or I go through a lot and don't wanna make sure I don't run out. Yeah. Yeah. And, I love to cook, so I I always like to have and and I I'm I'm gonna embarrass myself now. I I just recently started baking, and I I hate baking. I always hated baking, but my sister challenged me to to bake something, So I did, and now it's like, oh, I'm gonna try it again. You know? So, but yeah. Anyway, I can go on for that for forever. I mean, there's there's nothing embarrassing about being able to bake. It's one it's just a basic skill. Yeah. I just I just think, like, I'm I'm more of a savory cook. I I like I like to cook savory meals. So, doing the sweet stuff isn't isn't my bag, but, you know, hey. Hey. Look. What I made last week came out pretty good. It's the first time I ever made a crumb cake, a crumb coffee cake. So it came out pretty good. I I'm not gonna say it didn't. I I gotta make some adjustments on things, but it came out pretty good. It came out pretty good. But Michael, I wanna ask you about some some questions about inspiration. So when when it comes to creating the plot for your story, where do you find your inspiration?
[00:18:54] Unknown:
I would say that really inspiration could come from anywhere. I it's especially when you're actively looking for inspiration. And, I mean, as a writer, I'm not looking to write, oh, I just have this one book and I can call myself a writer. It is what I would genuinely like to eventually become a full career. Like, this is how I get my primary source of income or this is what I primarily go to. So if I'm gonna be doing that, I wanna make sure I don't have a shortage of stories. I wanna make sure that I'm not in a place where I run out ideas and I'm struggling to think it out. So I am I mean, I am regularly on the lookout for stories, and they really could come from anywhere. I mean, the junk world, the, I'd say, the core inspiration kinda built around the main character himself.
The inspiration and the inspiration for that character came from, if you're familiar with the TV show BattleBots or the movie Re Real Steel Mhmm. That kind of robot on robot combat. There's another story that that I previously wrote, but kinda put on the shelf because I tried going through the the standard, you know, publishing process of finding an agent and all that, but it I just couldn't find an agent, but I thought, okay. But I still believe in this book. I still think it has value, so I'll put it on the shelf. Maybe I can go back to it later. Where that actually came I mean, the inspiration for that book that I plan to go back to, it came from, there's this podcast that I regularly listen to. It's called 372 pages will never get back, which it has, Mike Nelson, if you're familiar with either RiffTrax or, I've heard of him. Yeah. Yeah. Previously, the, you know, Mystery Science Theater 03/3000, him and one of the per people that works with him on RiffTrax, Connor Lestoka.
So they go through books they do not expect to like. Okay. And yeah. I mean, it's it's very much in I mean, it's very much enjoyable to listen to them, you know, go through these bad books. But one of the things that I did not expect when I started listening to it is that, hey. I can actually get even out of these bad books, I can still get inspiration. I mean, it helps that one of those books is actually good because where the podcast gets its name its name from is what started the whole thing is the book, Ready Player One.
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Okay. And,
[00:21:38] Unknown:
look, admittedly, I've never read that book myself. I haven't watched the movie myself. But I think based on what I've listened to other people say and what I've read about it, I have a general sense of the book. And I can agree that, yeah, I mean, if you dig into it, sure, people enjoy it. But there is a lot of stuff where I where I can also understand people, you know you know, tearing through it or making fun of it. But at the same time, I'm thinking, okay. But there's actually some cool stuff in here. And even if maybe the narrative isn't great, I can understand, for example, perhaps the main appeal is, okay, you've got this virtual world where you can just throw all this pop culture stuff that people enjoy into it.
And so my thought was, okay, maybe I could take that and challenge myself to see, can I take that and can I can I challenge myself to try and do something better? Like, rather than just go along with the people that are saying, well, this book is actually it's actually a dumb book. Can I instead, you know, take the stuff that is in that book that I think is cool and and go, can I myself actually do better? Can I challenge myself to do better and maybe build off on that rather than just, you know, be with you know, just being one of those people that thinks it's fun to tear it down?
There's and there's another book that I'd like to get it to at some point, but I don't but it's more of a an idea stage. Like, there's another book in there that's like, one of the Bram Stoker's lesser known books, like, layer of the white worm where and this one I did actually read through after the fact where, yeah, there's a lot of problems with it, but it's another case of, okay, it's not a great book, but there are some cool ideas in here. Sure. I'm actually familiar with the book. I've read it. Okay.
[00:23:44] Unknown:
Probably one of the few, but but I've read it. And and you're absolutely right. You could you could get some really good nuggets of information. Like, somebody once said to me, you know, every every once in a while, you'll even find a diamond in the garbage pill.
[00:24:00] Unknown:
Yeah. Or I think I I mean, I think a really good quote that even if it doesn't directly relate to this, like, what is one of the if you've seen the movie Ratatouille, what is the one of the key quotes in there? You know, anyone can cook, but it's not about, you know, not necessarily anyone can become a great cook, but a great cook could come from anywhere. And you can really apply that logic to all sorts of places. Oh, yeah. Sure. Like, not everything is a good idea. You know, not everything can provide a good idea, but you never know where a good idea might actually come from.
[00:24:37] Unknown:
Very true. So then can you walk us through how junk world came to life from that very, very first spark, of the first idea that you had, all the way up to the finished product in your hands?
[00:24:50] Unknown:
Yeah. I can I can try and run through it, because sometimes, especially when it starts to get a BOL, you know? But the the idea, as I think I previously mentioned, it did start with the character of Leroy Brown himself. I initially created this character sort of for a a a setting that someone else had created online, and I thought, you know, it's you know, this is kind of a neat setting. I created the character for it, and I liked the character that I created. And I liked the backstory I had created for this character, Leroy Brown, who is a war bot turned arena fighter. Mhmm. So I I thought, you know, I'm enjoying this character. I'm enjoying this backstory.
So what I did is I took the character, and I created an entirely I created an original setting. Now it took inspiration from the original setting, but I did it both so that it no. I'm not just plagiarizing what someone else created. And two, when I'm creating my own version of it, it allows me to establish the setting and the rules of the setting and the details of the setting so that they fit the story I wanna tell rather than trying to just take someone else's work. So from there, the next step was a lot of it kind of form I what often happens when I'm trying to put books together, especially in the early stages, is a lot of the in a way, I guess, the real first draft, I wind up forming it in my head. Like, I brainstorm scenes and concepts.
And so that's how a lot of it went. And then I also as I'm doing that, I'm also kinda trying to jot down just a general outline of to kinda solidify, okay, here's how the story is actual here's a solid here's a a solid blueprint of the narrative so that I can actually get from point a from from the beginning to the end with a narrative that is actual that actually makes sense, that actually has some kind of through line. So yeah. And at that phase, it's so once I have that, then the next step is to actually write out write out a a genuine draft that is readable. It's more it's a genuine story that, yeah, it needs a lot of work, but it is something that someone could actually read through, get the story, get the sense of what's supposed to be going on.
And in that phase, it's largely that first written draft. A piece of advice that I heard a what a a while back that I really like is the first draft is just about getting the story written. It's having a it's about having it's about having something that is a full story even if it's got a lot of problems because then you have something this is an actual product. It may have a lot of flaws. There may be a lot of parts of it that don't make sense, but you have a foundation you can build upon. And once you have that foundation, you could then sit back, look at it, and say, okay. What's wrong with this foundation, and what do I actually have to work with?
And from there, it's it was mostly a matter of rewriting till I had, this is a version of the book that I would that I would be happy and content seeing published. Mhmm. Now there may be stuff that could be changed. Maybe there'll be things in it that that I'll be told, well, this needs some reworking. But as a completed product where I say, yeah. I would be content with this being published, that's when I went on to the phase of of trying to be traditional publishing route where I take this manuscript, I have it in a space where I think it is good, and see if I can find an agent that can help me take that next step.
Especially since it was my understanding that when I'm trying the traditional route of publishing, what's supposed to happen is, like, the money is supposed to be flowing to the author. So maybe there's stuff that needs to be done, but if you have a traditional publishing house, well, if they like your work and they're legitimate, then they'll be taking the steps of making sure the book is edited. Anyway, at that phase, I am in the process of trying to find an agent, which includes a lot of research for agents to reach out to and then a lot of letter writing Mhmm. To actually try and convince these agents, hey. Here's a book that is worth your time to try and sell to a publisher.
And long story short, I didn't find an agent who was interested. I came close, but something just didn't work out there and didn't really go beyond initial conversation. So I eventually I I put together initially a list of agents that I I thought, hey. This person might be viable. This person might take interest. And so I'd gotten through this entire list of agents, and I had not I had not gotten one, and it was pretty clear that I had exhausted my options on literary agents. Okay. Now I have this book that I don't have a literary agent for, but it's a it is a book that I still think is good. I still think it has value. And so I say, okay. I can't do anything with it now, but maybe at some point, you know, taking the hopeful route, taking the long the long view, I think, maybe someday, you know, if I actually get another book that is successful, I can come back to this and say, okay. You like what I have published. People are buying this. Maybe you could take a look at this other book I already have written and ready to go through the publishing process and all that.
So the book ultimately sat on the shelf for a bit. And so we jump forward. Now you also mentioned in the intro that one of the things that I I have as a responsibility is that I take care of my grandmother. I I have this role of a kind of, you know, live in in home caretaker kind of situation, which Okay. I mean, all things considered, it works out really well. But not to get too far aside. Now with me living with my grandmother, she she is aware that of, you know, my writing aspirations, the stuff I do with writing. And I had been doing this I had been doing this a while with us living you know, me living with her, and I hadn't really achieved anything. Yeah. I had books written, but I wasn't achieving real success.
So she asks she asks questions about the process, which leads to, is there anything she can do to help? Mhmm. So short version there, this is with her asking if there's ways she can help, this is when I ultimately jump from before then, I was focused on trying to do the traditional publishing route, hoping to, you know, write a book that has some genuine that I think has genuine value, find an agent, the agent finds a publisher, book gets published. And if the book is as good as I I want it to be, as I'm aiming it to be, well, hey. I got a book that's successful and, you know, that just launches the whole career. But with this conversation with my grandma, this is when I finally go, okay. I guess I will take a look at the self publishing or hybrid pub you know, the process where I I mean, I think that it's a process that's gained more legitimately over the years, especially as you see you see more and more issues with the traditional publishing gatekeepers.
[00:33:07] Unknown:
Mhmm.
[00:33:08] Unknown:
And so when so at that point, I go from I'm trying to figure find an agent to I'm trying to find, like, a publishing a, you know, I guess, hybrid what I ultimately ended up with is a hybrid publisher that I made contact with. And from there, you know, this publisher, we worked together to put a book together a book that they were able to put to that they were able to make ready for print, and I was happy with. And, ultimately, that's how
[00:33:45] Unknown:
the book became available for people to purchase and read. That's a that's a process. I mean, just just here. And How long did that take? From from start to finish, roughly, about how long did that take?
[00:33:58] Unknown:
Well, from the first idea to it actually getting, you know, a physical copy, it took it took a few years. I can't actually remember how far well, I I mean, I couldn't remember off the top of my head, but I'd say but I don't know. I I could probably look at I could probably figure out if I looked it up, but the short version is, the book that I mentioned, the idea that I had written about, hey. I'm going to see if I could take the ideas I like from Ready Player One and do something better. The book that I was writing I mean, that that book kind of was written in a sort not not simultaneously, but kind of, like, con I mean, kinda one with the other. They kinda flipped a bit. So it would be sometime after I I guess it would be sometime around the time that movie want that movie launched. I mean, sometime after that, like, maybe a year or so.
So it's it was it was a several year process from the initial idea for this story to the act the book actually getting published. But I'd say there was at least a couple year period where it was just the book sitting on the shelf waiting for its opportunity.
[00:35:20] Unknown:
Wow. That's a I got you know, I I don't I don't think a lot of folks realize just how difficult it is to to to write a book and get it published. And I and you're right. I think that's why, the idea of, self publishing is gaining more and more much more legitimacy as these days go on, because it is much harder to to find a publishing house that's willing to take on a new project is from especially for somebody who's new in the industry.
[00:35:47] Unknown:
Well yeah. And and, unfortunately, part of it also has to do with I mean, the way the the traditional publishing industry is right now, based on everything I understand about it, they're really looking there's not so much a focus on is the book good, is the book sellable, so much as are we finding the right books from the right people, not even based on the right the right people because they're good at what they do. And, I mean, if I were really get into it I mean, that's, I mean, that's the thing that really ticks me off about just the entertainment media in general right now is that I have no problem with other people having success. You know, if another person has a generally good book and that does great while my book languishes, that I don't have a problem with. What I have a problem with is the, you know, the writers and directors and all that that clearly do not know what they're doing, are clearly making bad bad material, but somehow they keep getting hired.
[00:36:52] Unknown:
Yeah. That's that's, like, that's a it's a very interesting conundrum there. Absolutely. And, but also too, you know, a lot of writers don't hit the big time on the first attempt either, you know. So and you do have other projects that you're working on. Well, yeah. I mean and that's,
[00:37:07] Unknown:
I mean, that's part of what helps keep me going because I recognize I mean, it it helps I mean, I guess, I don't know if helps is the right word, but I I recognize that one of my weaknesses is that I am not a great salesperson even as I realize it's an important skill. But I recognize that one of my own weaknesses is I don't have a great I I I don't have a great hands on convincing people that this is because my mindset is that with with advertising, the the core of advertising is convincing people that they need this product. Right. But then my mindset goes to whether there are very few things that you actually need. Like, if you've got shelter, you've got food, you've got I mean, then you have I mean, if you have those things, okay, maybe it may be basic, but you do have everything you actually need. And so I'm personally facing that conundrum of how do I convince people that they, quote, unquote, need this product when I think that, ultimately it's not something that you need even if it may even if, hopefully, it will improve your life in some way.
[00:38:26] Unknown:
Yeah. I agree with you. I agree with you. And especially if you have milk, you have to have milk. So what what are what are the biggest challenges that you deal with when you're writing, and and what are some of the strategies that you use to push yourself through that?
[00:38:41] Unknown:
Well, I think that with the actual writing process, the biggest obstacle comes with rewriting and deciding, is this is this something that actually you know, what actually needs to be rewritten and what needs what is good as is? Because, I mean, while there are different ways you could interpret it, there's that phrase of, well, be prepared to kill your darlings.
[00:39:08] Unknown:
Mhmm.
[00:39:09] Unknown:
The problem is, how do you know whether something actually needs to be killed? Or are you just killing it for the sake of killing it? Because I mean, while it is I mean, you could you could just as easily go either way because you could, on the one hand, well, this needs to change, but I like it too much and so I'm keeping it because I wanna keep it even though it doesn't belong. On the other hand, I could go too far the other way and say, well, I need things to change. The book needs revisions. So am I going out of my way to find things to change that don't actually need to be changed? I see. And so that can be that can be a very difficult thing to figure out, and it's one of I'd say one of the biggest benefits of if I can get someone to do, you know, go through it and read it for me and give me feedback, that that's one of the biggest benefits of that one of the benefits of that. And even then, I have to look at the feedback and think, is the feed now the person may give genuinely good feedback, may give honest feedback, but at the same time, the person may not have a full understanding of how everything goes together. And so I have to decide, is this is can I use this feedback or do I have to make the judgment call of, no, the way things are in the book now, that's that is the best option for it?
[00:40:42] Unknown:
Yeah. Now now writing science fiction, I love science fiction, by the way. Just so just so I I don't think I don't think there are many people who don't like science fiction, at least like it. But I've been a sci fi nut ever since I'm a kid. Ever since I saw Star Trek, the motion picture on the big screen for the first time, I I think I was seven years old. And, I saw that thing oh, no. Actually, no. I was, like, eight eight or nine. And, as as horrible of a movie as it was, at eight or nine years old, I didn't care about that. I was just stunned by the visuals of it and what I saw, and I thought it was the most amazing, incredible thing ever. And from that point on, I became a huge Trekkie.
But, but, you know, when you when you write science fiction, you're you're essentially creating a whole new world, a whole new narrative. There are lots of challenges in that. What are some of the challenges about creating this world that the reader probably never experienced?
[00:41:49] Unknown:
Yeah. I'm I'm not sure if I do have a good answer for that. I mean, it's I mean, I don't I don't know, like, if it's my perspective, but I I mean, I guess, unique to science fiction, I'm I mean, maybe if I'm just I mean, because I think it's something that maybe applies to fantasy as well is that an important thing to keep in mind with these works that go beyond, you know, not the nonfiction world we live in is that it is still important to keep one foot grounded in reality. And something that I learned early on is that, no, science fiction and fantasy is not a a license to write whatever you want. You still have to keep you still have to keep things grounded within their within their own reality, and you do have to if you if something is going to diver if something is going to wild wildly go in a different direction from the world as we know it, it has to be done in a way that that makes sense within its that makes sense within its own world.
Like, if if peep like, there are certain elements I mean, there's a lot of elements of human nature that are universal and Right. Even, you know, might when they might not be, people an an audience is still gonna expect characters to act a certain way. So if you're gonna have characters that that don't act in that way, you're gonna have to, first, make it consistent within the universe and, two, get across to the audience I mean, that this is how it works in this universe and why it works in this universe. You have to it has to carry an element of believability within the universe itself.
Like, a simple thing would be gravity. I mean, eve I mean, even in science fiction and fantasy, you still have gravity. Sure. You can maybe dismiss it when you're weightless in space. Right. But, you know, if you suddenly have characters ignoring ignoring gravity for some reason, well, you better have a good reason for it or do it in a way that is going to make sense or that audiences are going to go along with.
[00:44:13] Unknown:
Well, that makes a lot of sense. That that that does make sense. Let me see. You said something I'm trying to remember I as you were speaking, a question came into my mind, and I I it just kinda, like, flipped out of it.
[00:44:25] Unknown:
I'll probably have to end up coming back to it. Well, no. I mean, that I I experienced I experienced that frequently with my grandma where I mean, yeah. I love her and but it's one of those things where when you do get up in age Hey. Well, I mean, you mentioned that you recalled seeing you recalled seeing Star Trek on the big screen unless you saw it in the rerelease. Well, that definitely says something, but you've got some years on you. Yeah. I'll be 55 this year. I'm not that that advanced.
[00:44:52] Unknown:
But yeah. You are never coming on my show again. I'm kidding. I'm teasing you. So so if money, legal rights, time wasn't an issue for you, what's a dream project that you would love to take on?
[00:45:11] Unknown:
Like, no, like, no restrictions at all. I could do anything. I I'd say what this I mean, the single biggest absolute dream project would be doing a film version of my favorite work of fiction, which may may come off as a bit of an odd answer, but it's actually a what a book from the old Star Trek or Star Wars Star Wars expanded universe, Starfighters of Adomar. It would I I mean I mean, no restrictions, no rules, all the resources. I mean, it would because I mean, it being a book that I really enjoyed that even though it is, you know, it's it's a sign I mean, it's science fiction book, but it's it's I mean, some people may yeah. But it's a licensed book from Star Wars, so it's it can't be that big a deal. But it's it's a book I read when I was growing up, and there's a lot about the book.
I think it's one of those things where I read it at the right age and at the right time, which as I understand it, that happens with a lot of people is the if you the the stories you read at the right just at the right time in your life, those ones can really stick with you with through your life. I see. Yeah. You know, there's that formative element. So I'd say that dream project, no restrictions, no rules. I'd wanna find a way to put together a film adaptation of this of Starfighters of Adhemar, which is my favorite
[00:46:46] Unknown:
my favorite work of fiction. Fiction. Because I'm not familiar with the expanded universe of Star Wars. I'm I'm a I'm a Star Wars fan. I love Star Wars movies, but I'm not, I I never really got into the expanded universe. So can you what exactly is the story about?
[00:46:59] Unknown:
Well, in the well, you've seen the movies though. Right? Of course. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So this so Starfighter Starfighters of Anomar, it's part of the x wing book series. Now if you've seen the the Star Wars movies, particularly the original trilogy, you may remember the carry character of Wedge Antilles, who is he's a very minor character, but he Oh, yeah. Yeah. He shows it in all three of the movies. He's the guy who goes from nobody could blow up the death star to he's the only guy in the whole series to help destroy two death stars. Right. That's Well, anyways, the x wing book series is basically they built an entire books they basically put him as the main character of an entire subseries.
And in this particular book, Wedge and three other pilots are sent on this diplomatic mission to a recently rediscovered planet where the gimmick or, as it might be said, the the hat of this planet is that their entire social structure is pretty much centered around pilots. So they being the best pilots in the New Republic, they are sent to persuade this planet to join the New Republic. And as they soon find out, they're also competing against the the best pilots that the empire or what's left of the empire has to offer. And it's an interesting to it's interesting to go through the book because it starts out there's a wedge when he's first told about this mission, this planet, he makes a joke about, hey. We should implement this social structure in the New Republic.
But as the book goes on, it examines, hey, this this planet and its culture, what we're finding out, hey, it's not so great after all because among other things, the pilots that they're they frequently they're frequently doing doing starfighter duels, but they are starfighter duels to the death. So you've got kinda this culture that has this element of bloodlust to it in that they're fighting each other for glory that has I mean, they're just fighting for glory and social structure, and it's I I think that what really strikes with me, and in some ways, I think that it resonates even stronger today, is this element of conflicting cultures and con in contrary to what some people would like to present, not every culture is equal. There are some cultures that are better than others. There I mean, oftentimes, you will have a culture that, yeah, it's got some great things, but it also has some not so great things Mhmm. That which, I mean, if you look at America itself, one of the things that has made it great, it is is that when you have that traditionally, the way it did work is that when you had someone come in with someone come to the country, they would, by and large, adapt to the culture that is here. But if they had great ideas of their own from their own culture, hey. Guess what? We can take that the good parts of that culture and it'll make America as a nation stronger. Right. Yeah. It would adapt they they they're able to make it adapt to the environment that they're in. Yeah. Sure. That and, you know, and it became a stronger, unified culture that implemented the best parts of the people coming here as they, you know, the the strong elements of culture survive.
And the parts that weren't great, well, they got they got left behind while adapting to the stronger American culture.
[00:50:36] Unknown:
Yeah. That that make that makes sense. And so so I I I gotta get into the expanded universe, because that that's a really interesting story, and I I need to check that out. So,
[00:50:49] Unknown:
Oh, yeah. Look. I mean, yeah. The the I mean, the the old expanded universe before it was before, you know, Lucas Lucasfilm was sold to like, I mean, yeah. People there are some complaints people make about it that are legit, but especially once it I mean, I'd say the real turning point is once you get to the Thrawn trilogy that people love. Like, that's kind of the starting point of when the the ex the expanded universe really came together where in some ways, I'd say Star Wars is like its own subgenre of science fiction. Like, you've got science fiction in general, and then you've got sub I understand that. Yeah.
Oh, yeah. And for and for me, it's I mean, ultimately, with what we've seen happen to Star Wars now, I I look at that decision where Star Wars just jettisoned all that expanded universe, which at first seemed like, why are they getting rid of all this stuff? There's there's, like, a lot of great stuff here. It's it's I see it as a blessing in disguise because I still love the Lucas first Star Wars. And if if Disney doesn't wanna touch that stuff, doesn't wanna go back to that, hey. That's great because it makes it easier to tell, hey. This is this this is the the Lucas first canon that I accept as my Star Wars canon, and I can just ignore
[00:52:10] Unknown:
the stuff that Disney puts out as their own stuff. No. That's not that's not my canon. Maybe there's fun I maybe there's occasionally a fun idea there, but I can continue to love the Star Wars that I used to love without having to worry about Disney making a mess of it too. Yeah. I I I and I can relate to you because, like, I I was never a big fan I'm gonna speak anathema here right now, but I was never a big fan of the Next Generation series with with in Star Trek. And, you know, I I just could never really get into the characters, and I just it it just to me, just felt very sterile and very just blah. But, so I I understand where you're coming from with that one. But but have you ever thought about writing, an expanded universe book?
[00:52:54] Unknown:
Well, see, that's a, I mean, the expanded universe or writing up, that gets into either fan fiction or else you'd have to work with the company. Now nothing against fan fiction in and of itself. Yeah. There's a lot of bad fan fiction, but there's also fan fiction that people do really well. A lot of great ideas can come from that. The thing is that when regarding that, if I were to just do it as an act of fun, I have to consider okay. I am try I mean, right now, my writing is admittedly it's kind of more in a hobby state, but it is something I'm trying to turn into a career. So then I run into the problem of, if it's a hobby right now, if I take that time to write something that I know I can't get I really can't get published, that I know interferes on the copyright of a company, well, then that takes time away and resources away from trying to write a new book, a new project that I can actually sell and actually get money off of and can hopefully that can help catapult me into where I can do writing as a regular thing.
[00:54:03] Unknown:
And that's a great segue into my next question. Without giving away too much, can you share any information or give us a hint about what your next project's looking like?
[00:54:12] Unknown:
Well, the funny thing is that's kind of changed over the path over the course of the past year or so, but I feel very confident that my next, I mean, my next book is very close to being ready. It's act it's actually a major shift where the book I'm planning to I am currently planning to get published next is actually a children's fairy tale, kind of a throwback to some of the older fairy tale stuff, but maybe more in the in line with the kind of Wizard of Oz or, Okay. Alice in Wonderland. Like yeah. But it's a fairy tale. I think I'm close enough. I it the name of it is called The Taming of the Moon Dragon.
So it's it's got a it's got a bit of a classic story of but but with a bit of a twist where you've got a dragon that mistakes a maiden for a princess and, you know, abducts her thinking, hey. If I have this princess, I can ransom her and get a huge fortune really quick and easily. Well, not realizing that, oh, this this girl he's abducted is actually just the daughter of a carpenter. And so meanwhile so on that end, I mean, the dragon is waiting for a hero to come along while the the young lady is trying to figure out, okay, can I manage my own escape somehow because there because I mean, she she's not some princess? She's not gonna have a knight riding to rescue her. She's deep in the woods. Meanwhile, there is, in fact, someone coming to rescue her. And so you've got the other side of the story of you've got a person going through a quest trying to get to her and the challenges that he encounters on the way. So that's kind of a general overview view about the what the book is about. The biggest delay has actually been working on the art for it.
Because first, I I the the first big thing that I wanted to do is I had a very specific idea for the cover because, you know, it's a children's book and one of those the things that I was familiar with, you know, with some of the children books I grow grew up with is they have this sort of, kinda construction papers type of style. So I spent a very extended period putting together a book cover and a back of a cover by cutting out physical pieces of construction paper and then properly gluing them together. And then more recently, it's been doing actual illustrations for inside the book, which last night even, I finally finished the last of the the the guide hand drawn guide that now I need to scan into my computer and do finalized versions for. So it's been a very long process, but I am very close to having it ready. Alright. Outstanding.
[00:57:01] Unknown:
So, we're gonna start to wrap this up here at this point because we're club coming up on the hour. So who is somebody that you respect right now, and what are they doing that inspires you?
[00:57:17] Unknown:
I mean, I think I could give answer. I'm just trying to think what's
[00:57:24] Unknown:
It could be me if you want. You know, that's fine. I'm kidding.
[00:57:29] Unknown:
I mean, this is okay. I know this is gonna be a controversial answer depending on who hears it, but I'd say I I'd say I mean, I'd say Trump. Okay. I mean, because he's, I mean, he's I mean, yeah. I know he gets a lot of hate, but it's there's a whole bunch of controversy there. But, I mean, I think if you look at him, you think that what he's actively trying to do and amount the the amount of hate he gets, and if you're actually willing to you'll research in what's going on and can maybe try and put aside your, it's I mean, he is I I mean, I think that if you'd look at it honestly, you can see he is trying to do the right thing and he's putting a lot of his own he's he's kinda putting he's genuinely putting his own neck on the line in spite of all the hate he gets for it. Well, I agree with you. I I agree with you. I I don't I don't think that, I I don't think he has any,
[00:58:22] Unknown:
negative motivation for the things that he's doing. I think he legitimately loves the country, and he legitimately loves, the people of this country, whether they're left or right or or center or wherever they are in this political spectrum. I think that he he genuinely wants to see America to become great again, and, and I I I know it's just spewing a a a campaign slogan, you know, make America great again, but I really think that's his heart. I don't think I mean I mean, and one of the really sad things about it is, I mean, even if you
[00:58:53] Unknown:
don't I mean, even if you don't necessarily agree with him, I would think people would hope that I mean, rather than, you know, wish death upon him Mhmm. Maybe, hey, how are ways that we can help point him in the right direction or I mean, because who would who would not want their own country to be great, would not want their own country to achieve some kind of greatness, or want their own country to do to be better? Globalists.
[00:59:23] Unknown:
People people who don't want to see a pick people who wanna control every aspect of your life and, depopulate the planet, and keep it only for a select few of people. You know, you you go I I look. I can get into all that stuff. We'll we'll be here. We'll be here all night long. This that's my that's my wheelhouse, brother. So
[00:59:43] Unknown:
Yeah. But That's an that's see, that's another reason to was this the right person to name because of all the tangents, and so it's you have to you have to actually stop yourself from I love I love president Trump. I I think he's doing a fantastic job.
[00:59:58] Unknown:
I think, despite everything that this man has been through, you know, the the the simple fact that he still has a heart to serve the country and to serve every single American, and to and to and to make sure that that this country is great, financially secure, prosperous, and safe is is tremendous. Do I agree with every direction he goes? No. Do I agree with everything that he that he says? No. But that's fine. That's the beauty of of of being, I I I guess, of of being a conservative, or I like to call myself a conservatarian, But, you know, I think that's the beauty of it. You don't have to walk lockstep with what the party's telling you to do and what the party's telling you to say. You see that a lot with liberals and democrats. They they walk lockstep together. They don't disagree with each other. They just march forward together.
But what do you have with that? You have automatons.
[01:00:52] Unknown:
Yeah. I mean and likewise. I I mean, not every I may not agree with every decision Trump's makes, but my my general opinion on him for years now has been basically to paraphrase what Abraham Lincoln infamously said about Ulysses s Grant. We cannot spare this man. He fights.
[01:01:13] Unknown:
There you go. Excellent point. And we're gonna close-up on that one. So, Michael, where can we go to get your book? Where can we go to find you on any social medias? Anything like you wanna direct us to?
[01:01:23] Unknown:
What I will direct people to is what I have turned to my general, hey, if you wanna get the book, go here, is that I direct people to Goodreads. Look up Junk World, The Ballad Ballad of Leroy Brown by MK Stengel Junior on Goodreads. Main thing being that on the Goodreads page, you can find a menu that will take you to just all the major book sellers and wherever you prefer to buy your books from, that's where you can that's I mean, it'll let you go there. Outstanding.
[01:01:54] Unknown:
Michael Stengland? Am I say it? Stengland. Stengland. You said it right.
[01:01:58] Unknown:
Alright. Do not do not do not entertain the petty pirate.
[01:02:03] Unknown:
Outstanding. Alright, my friend, Michael. You have a great night. Thank you so much for this. Folks, Michael Stengland. Make sure you check out his book on Goodreads. Search it up. We'll put a we'll put some information about that on in the show notes so folks can find it easy. And, again, thank you so much, Brent. I I wish you the best with the book, and I hope everything works out great for you. And wanna see Thanks for having me on. I had a great time. Yeah. So did I. Thank you so much. You have a great one. Good evening. You too now. Alright, folks. We're gonna take a little bit of a break here. When we come back from this break, we're gonna have, our executive producer, Wayne Rankin, join us for the second hour of the show. But, before you before we do that, I'm gonna go run to the little boys room, get a refill on my coffee, and, we'll get, we'll get back to Wayne. So folks, don't forget, this is a live show weeknights, 7PM central time. Weekends, we got Saturday shows 3PM, and we got Sunday show at 6PM. So make sure you check us out.
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[01:11:44] Unknown:
K. I'm working on it, Joe. Can you hear me? Hear you. I got the the vocals going. Where's the enable camera? We did this last time. It's just piece it doesn't want it doesn't my warning, you're about to be on stage.
[01:11:57] Unknown:
Here we go. There it is. The the the joys of doing a live show, you see, you gotta work all these things out.
[01:12:05] Unknown:
It's someone who's like I'd you know, I never wanna give up my flip phone. I actually didn't wanna give up my landline. So I went from landline to struggling to get a flip phone to what this thing is here. Well That's something really,
[01:12:18] Unknown:
how to put a different picture. Before before we get into that, Wayne, slow down. Slow down. We got an hour, so slow down. Right. I know I know you love I know you love to talk you you got your points. I know you I know you wanna do it, so let's just slow down. In through your nose, out through your mouth, say hello to the audience, and, let let me ask you a question first. How's Rosanna?
[01:12:43] Unknown:
Stuffed up. She's, heading on a trip to Brazil, and she said some really cool stuff. She said, I cannot wait to get back and get this show running. Okay. I'm talking green screen, all the stuff we talked about. She's ready to go. Awesome. She's been through a lot. This car crash we went into, it it's been traumatic.
[01:13:01] Unknown:
Yeah. I I know. That that was my next question. I want to know how you're feeling, with the results of the car crash.
[01:13:07] Unknown:
I still am having problems. Well, I had a knee replacement in March. Let's just say I feel like the knee replacement is at six weeks now. Oh, wow. Yeah. I can't. What a bummer. It's it's not gonna whine about it too much, but that in my ankle. But that is the last of the the bits of the my body here, but I was probably at most of my whole body had a a part there that was, like, in, whatever you wanna call it, trauma. Mhmm. So, physically, no. I I heal fast. I bounce. So, this is my foot on my right side and my knee. I'm but I'm ready to go. The farm's looking a little shabby, but I did get out, and I paid the price for it big time. I got a bunch of stuff done, and I paid the price for it, but everything got done. And she's ready to head down to, Brazil to see her son for a week. And, I got the farm to myself and, probably overwork it because it won't be no big deal. She won't be here, but, she's got a little cold. She's going. And I gotta tell you, she she's got the cold and everything, and she still looks great. I was here as a lady.
You know how many women want want that face regular, and you're like so, That's great. But That's great. Couple disturbing disturb one of the most disturbing things I've heard this week is people at the shooting in Minnesota.
[01:14:19] Unknown:
Mhmm. Okay.
[01:14:21] Unknown:
People outside the church were heckling a vice president. And there's something there. I was listening to a pastor. I go to Calvary Chapel. So there's a lot of guys out there that have great podcasts and all the stuff like that. And he said the hecklers and the the the Jinsakis of the world have literally come to the moral bankrupt part of equal to the shooter. Mhmm. They're equal to the shooter. If you wanna go, hey. Let's go down to the the church for advances and heckle them over those kids who were shot. What is that? What is in that? It's just evil.
We were talking I was talking to my pastor this week about evil. And I know you've seen a lot of things as a as a law enforcement, and I've been up as a missionary up in the high, tundra of Alaska, and there's some evil and darkness up there. There's a lot of stuff. I wouldn't even I don't even wanna talk. I mentioned about this. When you get way away from civilization and then you drop civilization in the middle of nowheres, it seems to devour the people who are just wanna hunt whales, seals, and just live that life. And when you bring in people who are much more I won't say they're more educated if or more intelligent, maybe more educated, but man's in humanity to man and the stuff that the darkness they bring with it. And I just seen that darkness in some of the things I'm reading over this church shooting, and it's just that there was one kind of funny thing. Vance was coming wherever he was driving, somewhere in Wisconsin, and all the the the the protesters with their signs were was it a v? So, Joe, you know, traffic. Right? Yep. They're all on one side. Yeah. I'm sure he told his driver, take the other one, and she shows all these people crew all out of shape practically, trying to get to the other side.
It was great. Stumbling. I probably that's the farthest they've ran in years. So it was kinda one of the one of the things I actually, can say was a little bit of humorous, but I wrote something today. I said, no matter what prosperity we have, there's a dark element trying to go against it. I guess that as you're talking to your last guest about Trump, he could be Snow White. Everything could be perfect. That's right. Every the old old my father from a generation, you know, two chickens in a pot and a car in a garage type of thing mentality, vote for me. And if that was true, if Trump could provide two chickens in every pot every night and a car in the garage you know, all the cliches, There still would be something that people would just there'd be out there just, it's built in. It's built in. They hated Jesus no matter what he did. There's a a small collective there, maybe bigger than small, that would just hated him no matter what he did. You know, if he healed them, fed him, whatever, there's still there's a darkness in this world. And I've just seen a lot of it this week after the shooting in Minnesota. I was following a little bit and praying about it and praying for the family members. And, yeah, and the the element behind it, it's it there's there's no secret who it is and and what's behind it.
[01:17:20] Unknown:
I agree with you. I'm gonna actually, let's do this here really quick. Let me see. So this is I believe this is what you're talking about. Let me screen share this. So I hope you don't mind that I was playing around there while you were talking.
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No.
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Gotta turn the sound off. Sorry. But this was earlier today. When I was listening to it in the, earpiece, I thought I heard the heckling in the background, but I guess not. So that's our vice president and his wife dropping flowers at Annunciation Catholic Church in Minneapolis. So, so yeah. That was it. I'm sorry. I thought I had the right clip. Didn't have it. I apologize. A little some something here, Joe.
[01:18:38] Unknown:
Ten maybe fifteen years ago, you know, our church, pastor said he's gonna start a security team, and the original security leader was a local cop, local policeman. And so good choice, right, to set up everything and how to do perimeters and what have you. And, you know, some of the I not everybody in church is always conservative. Let's just go to that. Especially, I live in the blue some blue states practically. And, oh, by the way, Joe, my taxes went from 3,500 this year to 7,000 next year.
[01:19:04] Unknown:
You gotta be kidding me. Governor,
[01:19:07] Unknown:
Bob, whatever. I call him Bob tax anything Ferguson. He made 40 new 40 new taxes.
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Unbelievable.
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So that would take my first two months of my my whole payment. My whole paycheck is gone the first two months. So, there's still some lefties in our church a little bit, but at the beginning, it was like, you know, we have a security team, and all these guys, they do they're all CPLs. If you're gonna be on the team, you have to carry, carrier police, CPL. I came and think about it now. Carry pistol license. Okay. It's a license to carry a gun in the state of Washington under your coat or jacket, you know, conceal conceal. Conceal carry. Yeah. There we go. And now everyone's pretty comfortable with it now. That you see those guys in all over the perimeter of the church with their earplugs, vests, and everything from a point of when, like, so many people were like, oh, we have to thank you guys. Thank you guys. Hey. Security team. Thank you.
And that's the reality, Joe. It is. And some of these areas we've seen before, the Amish have been attacked out in the middle of nowhere. So there is a element out there that will always be after the people who worship, the the real Jesus Christ.
[01:20:19] Unknown:
Now yeah. You know, it it it goes beyond politics. Yeah. It really does. It it there there is definitely a spiritual element behind a lot of this. A lot of this is, well, first of all, the whole the whole ideology, that that led the the the shooter to, perform this just this just this despicable despicable act, that the whole ideology in itself is at fault here. You know, if if you look at if you look at all of the recent school shootings, there's old there's a one common denominator in all of these school shootings, and that is the trans ideology.
Yes. You know, it's it's it's something extremely it's it's something deep rooted spiritually. You know? And there there is there there is also the, of course, a psychological aspect to it. I mean, these these folks are pumped up with all these hormones that aren't natural to their own to their bodies, and then on top of that, they're pumping them full of SSRIs and and SNRIs and and all that stuff. It it's, you know, you look at you'll just you just you just look at that, and and you just you you you just wonder it it's it's real it's legit. It's a mental illness. It's also a spiritual illness.
Yeah.
[01:21:48] Unknown:
When you in in your law enforcement, history here, I've known a few guys and, some of the guys have gone undercover with some of the groups they've gotten infiltrated, like, oh, you know, white supremacists and, other different groups. And there's a lot of the a lot of the occult in a lot of those groups too. I mean, it just doesn't guys wanna have a cold beer and, you know, whatever. That's that's one part of the situation, but there's some some of those always in some group of these, I you can name them all. The white supremacists and, you know, some of these biker guys. I mean, they are who they are. The 1%, they call them. They're 1%.
And, they do some pretty mean, hideous stuff too. It's not because they're just mean. There's an evil to it all. And, and it says in the last days, there will be just lawlessness and just a total regard of everything that's moral and and not just good. Yeah. Yeah. It's just a regard of just anything, you know, that is decent, and that's what's starting to show more. And, I see the young man. I was doing physical therapy today, and I looked over and indicated, because I guess I'm guilty, Joe, a book by its cover. I guess I am. Maybe I'm old school. You know, Joe, told Judge a book by its cover, but he had the black hair. He had the black eyelashes and everything like that. But when he flipped his arm over, he had an I've I've studied one of my greatest courses I had was understanding, understanding the times. It was literally it was done by a lawyer or pastor in our church as a lawyer. Toughest thing I ever did, is in college wise. We went to every single religion, faith, and every going back to Babylon.
Babylon was one of the original with Nimrod, and the evil stuff that came out of Babylon is still today. A lot of the things, the sacrifices, what have you. But this kid, he he just had the the devil's shirt. I mean, he flipped his arm over, and there's a certain goat man, I call him. It's a goat man and these certain horns the way they twist. And it's just I'm looking at it going it just there's this it's it's not right. It's it's definitely old fashion. I'm not old fashioned. I'm from Detroit, man. I've I know guys that, like I said, who've been on the wrong side of the law and, you know, I know people who've been shot. I have people who've known people who've shot people. So but when I see this, there's a certain twist in the the horns the way it comes up. It's in the goat man face. And this young kid could have been eighteen nineteen. Are you talking about Baphomet? The the Baphomet image? Yes. Kind of a Baphomet look. You know, it was kind of a combination. Yeah. Okay. A Baphomet, but the the horns are even a little bit more, detailed. And he's just a young kid. He was, like, talking football.
He's talking about the this weekend's picks with the, the the trainer. I'm going, I don't know about Well, that's well, that's what's Couple of picks I'm going because he's kinda lost on those picks there, you know. Yeah. Well, I mean, but but that's Are you taking the Jets? Oh, Joe. I'm taking the Jets. Yeah. But that's but that's the whole thing. I'm getting it, Joe. I'm getting it. You're getting it. You're getting it. But the the,
[01:24:54] Unknown:
but but that's the whole thing with with I mean, there's this embracing of the demonic. There's this embracing of, of of occultism that it's and it's it's getting more and more prevalent. I mean I mean, you look you look at some of these these halftime shows at at at, football games, and what what is it? Most of it, well, at least, until recently, most of it's been basically satanic worship. Yeah. You know, you look what they do over at CERN, and, you know, when they when they have the opening ceremonies at CERN, doing ritual sacrifice it was simulating ritual sacrifice, you know, telling exactly who their allegiance is with. You know? It it's but that's but that's the way the world is going right now, bro. That that's that's just the way it that's, you know, the Bible talks very clearly that in the last days, these exact events are going to happen. And the more that they happen, the closer we know that we're getting to the return of Jesus Christ.
So so lift up your heads. Your redemption draweth nigh, the Bible says. Mhmm. So, you know, you you it's disturbing to see in in some respects, but as a believer, as somebody who believes what the book says, and as as somebody who's who's put his faith, trust, and confidence in the shed blood of Jesus Christ, you know, I'm I'm not disturbed by it. Yep. I'm anticipating the return of my savior. Alright. But it's also at the same time as well, you you are concerned because you you know, you you see the world, the condition the world is in, and they have no idea where they're run what they're rushing headlong into.
You know? They they turn that blind ear, the blind eye to the truth of the gospel. Mhmm. They think it's oppressive. They they I I the most ridiculous thing in the world I've seen lately is is all these people. You see them on TikTok and Instagram and all that stuff, you know, talking about how, they're embracing Islam because Islam is a is peaceful, and and it's it's loving, and it's respectful of Sure. Of people. Yeah. Okay. Go move to a predominantly Islamic country and find out how quickly you can hang your trans flag and your gay flag and your, your, how quickly they're gonna wrap you up in a burqa, and you you have no rights, you have no freedoms, and you think that's great? Go. Go go check it out. Go check it out.
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Right. Coming back to CERN, I've like I said, I, doing that course, it it was so detailed. I can't tell you how many chapters we've got into just literally they talked about CERN. And I got the video, and I showed it to a home group of my church. And one of the people, this looked like an art festival to me, Wayne.
[01:27:45] Unknown:
If they only knew what they were playing with.
[01:27:47] Unknown:
These guys have been in the in the church twenty, thirty, forty years. Wow. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Like I say, I had the running joke. I I got a little I got a little street wise, but it's not Sesame Street. Yeah.
[01:28:02] Unknown:
That's going, man. I love your little idioms. I do. I love your little idioms.
[01:28:06] Unknown:
I go, think about no, Joe. Think about it. Are we reading I have this I got these I love Mobi lines. My buddy, Rich, who, when you come up here, we we got I've got a team, Joe, set up for you. We got barbecue teams, whatever Joe wants. Yeah. Nice. Your your freaking keister's gonna be royalty when you get up there. Rich, Clint cleansing old army guy, and I'm trying to get ahold of the old sheriff. I'm working some things, and they already said, man, what what's he want? Brisket? He wants this. We're gonna do it all. And I made some Sunday sauce with my girl the other day Nice. Nice. From tomatoes that Rich brought up. Joe, farm fresh tomatoes. So Rich brought up for me. But, my my buddies there, like I said, they say, you know, these movie lines, but there was one I forget what it was. The guy goes, did you actually do you guys actually watch the show?
What's gonna go happening? I go to the Bible. Do you actually read this book? Mhmm. It was a home group, and it's like, look, man. It's it's it's it's one of those things where, oh, that was a things keep coming to go on. Bible knowledge, I won't say it's not worthless. I have I'm trying to put it together. Let's go with it. Bible knowledge isn't is bible knowledge is worthless without obedience. You gotta have obedience. I agree with you. You mean and the pastor who's saying he goes, you can do Zephyrh Zechariah and and highlight it and know everything. He goes big whoopity doo. But if you don't have obedience to the to the lord, you can know every verse in the in the bible. And people ask me, do I know every verse? No. But get a chapter. If you give me a chapter, go, well, that's what Paul was talking about when he was in Ephesus, the chapter. I'm a chapter guy. Mhmm. I can't do verses. I it's hard to remember every line in the Bible. But if we go chapter and I go, well, okay. This even I'm talking old testament Leviticus too. Like I said, my late wife was I was married to the old testament, born again Jew. So she she knew five languages. Yeah. That's right. And I remember that. So let's look at a chapter. So biblical, illiteracy in the church. It's it's it's pretty actually prominent now, and, of course, let's not talk about sin or the cross.
[01:30:20] Unknown:
Oh, no. That's verbal Or the blood of
[01:30:22] Unknown:
Christ. No. You're not allowed to talk about that stuff. No. Or the blood of Christ. No. Or here's the big ones you have, judgment.
[01:30:27] Unknown:
Yeah. A lot of the modern churches don't talk about those things, and and and it because because they don't wanna be offensive. They don't wanna they don't wanna offend anybody and turn anybody off. We're all loving and caring. There's a church over here. It's, I'm not gonna say the name of the church because it's Mhmm. Not worth it. Right. But, I've been to their website a few times because I know I know somebody, who, used to attend a a a solid bible believing church and is now going to that church. And, you know, I wanted to check it out and see what see what the hubbub's all about.
And, man, if you want a good Sunday afternoon at the theater, you wanna you wanna go to a good rock concert, hey. Right. Go to that church, man. They machines and everything? They put on some show, dude. They they they got the big screens everywhere. They got, they got the lights, the strobe lights, the the the multicolor lights, the the the big stage platform, all that stuff, and they call that worship.
[01:31:29] Unknown:
Right. And I I think coming on in our first half hour here, and I was, like I said, reading, going through my work I go I do my morning readings and what's happening, different sites. And the part of the spiritual part I brought in today is it's it's it's affecting so much of our society, like, from just, you know, like, political. And like I say, I got a buddy. I love him. Bless his heart. He thinks it's a political answer. Everything is. You know, if we get all so and so in a governor, it's gonna change everything. It's not. It's just not, man. It's broke.
We're we're broke. It's broke. There's there's a great mechanic coming. He's gonna fix it all, and he doesn't have a butt crack. And, you know, it's gonna be he's gonna actually he's got good wages. He's a cheap guy. You know, he's he's a Jewish fellow, so he's gonna keep the the rates down. You know? So
[01:32:30] Unknown:
Well
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You know? And he's a comedian because you know what? Most Jewish comedians in history were almost comedians in history were Jewish. So, you know, I
[01:32:40] Unknown:
it's I I always I don't I'm gonna interrupt you for a second, brother. But but, you know, he says, you know, everything has a political is a political issue. Well, here it is right here. This is Ephesians chapter six. And it says here what? For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, powers, against rulers of darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. That's what you're dealing with. And the bible go ahead. I'm sorry.
[01:33:12] Unknown:
The shooter. And, Joe, you you are the professional's professional. I look up to this guy so much from his from his career. And I'll just ask it. You got in every morning or whatever shift you were. You put your gear on. Mhmm. You put all your stuff on. You know what you're talking about. Your belts, your, you know, all your stuff. Body armor. Same. Yeah. All your stuff. Armor, chest armor, and I'm not using the right you know what I'm saying, brother. You know? Yep. Protect the body armor and everything. Yeah. This kid woke up this morning, and he put his stuff on. Mhmm.
And he probably checked his guns. He just like any law enforcement or fireman or first responder that got up in the morning. Honey, I'll see you later. Kiss you goodbye. You know, I'm on on the shift and this and this. I'll be I'll be operating the the the ladder truck today, or I'll be operating traffic control, etcetera. Mhmm. He as he was putting on it, there must have been the most darkest element at that moment of the what you just wrote there, what you just read. Yeah. I don't I wouldn't You just read there. It was so prevalent in this kid's mind circling around because there are principalities there. Yeah. I read I read something today. What's the difference between demons and fallen angels? That's been my thing here the past couple days on what the separation is. Fallen angels are the angels that fell with Satan.
The demons and I'm trying to work on that one. They're, I think I understand. Out of the Nephilim and or there there's something different because Jesus would cast demons out, but the fallen angels had more of a physical element to them.
[01:34:52] Unknown:
So I'm I'm Well, I never I never really considered that. I never never thought about that in such great detail. I I I look at, you know, the the demons, like like, we're always talking about aliens and, you know, come to visit us and all that stuff. Well, that that's I think those are I think they're interdimensional beings. Oh, absolutely. Yeah. Absolutely. And I I think that what people think are or are going to be aliens are really, the demonic. Yeah. Now whether they're fallen angels or or demons, whether there's a difference between the two, I don't think there is. I don't I don't think the scripture actually clarify speaks that that that clearly. And and, you know, one of the rules is, you know, when you're when you talk about the where the Bible does not articulate, we dare not speculate.
Absolutely. So, you know, I I I I strictly speaking, I think they're one and the same. I think that they have I I I just think that they were they had They're both bad. Yeah. They're both but they have the same I just think they have the they have the ability to make drive job description, mess things up. Yes. You know? No. But you mess things up. But I think that that they have the ability to appear spiritually and physically. Yeah. You know? They they do have a physical appearance, but they're they're they're just spiritual beings.
[01:36:08] Unknown:
And, you know, the Bible talk talks very clearly how Satan himself can appear as an angel of light. Right. You know? So I think that this is very similar to that. I think they're one and the same really, but that's an interesting study. That's something we should we should definitely And pow out for it. I wanna actually when my when my my suite is going, I'm gonna it's I I like to even add more time to it because her time in my 10 is freshest. So I have I have more study time, and I wanna get into and why I think I started with the show with this, that really hit me today. This the the heckling of the president and look. Who it doesn't matter which political mouthpiece or NBC person or whatever. They're gonna they're paid.
They're paid by whoever. And so they're sold out anyhow. And so but to sell out so bad that you will have to, chastise another political party because they're taking flowers Mhmm. To a site. Or so it kinda affected me today, so I'm looking into it. I'm a do my research. I'm pretty good at my research here. And, hey. I just graduated from college at 64 years old. I feel so good about it. But now I know research now and an analytical private. Was it analytical arguments and discussion. So but for real, Joe, right the last twenty four of the thirty six hours just thinking of what I was reading from the political side and the social side and all the other sides of there's a side to this.
There's actually two sides. There is. Well well, that you know, those kid you know, he he the transgender kids or what man, young kids were gunned down. It's just one of those things. I just like I said. And as seeing demons or whatever, I've been on the mission field, and I've been in some dark places. The darkest place, both me and my late wife and my my new bride here is the Western Tundra of Alaska. And up there, it's it's dark already. It's like, and and they get only so much light per year. But when it gets dark, it's like three or four hours of light to almost no light at all. But the darkness there of you have an indigenous tribes, and it's one of those things, leave them alone. Let them hunt their whales and their moose and everything. But, no, we're gonna go up there and put churches up there, and we're gonna we're gonna abuse them. And we're we're gonna do man's humanity to man. And and I was when I was up there in this past March, two young home with their Eskimo young boys. You're gonna love this, Joe. You're law enforcement.
They were ticketed. We're shooting a moose out of a different unit.
[01:38:47] Unknown:
I don't know, bro.
[01:38:49] Unknown:
It's a tundra. Okay. Units are and I'm up here. I hunt. Like I said, Elkhart starts this week, and I'm in Unit 663, Joe. Okay? It's in the mountains. Over here, 665. I understand those points here. You're talking to tundra. And these poor kids are like, okay. We don't know what the unit is and there how many generations they have had there. Thousand years. Yeah. I mean, even Christianity wise, if six you do the biblical scale of six thousand years, it's not two a thousand years is pretty safe to say to people been up there. And so it's it's it's a lot of alcoholism and the I I'm gonna have to say it, but the sexual abuse rate of 12 year olds is eighty percent. Wow.
[01:39:33] Unknown:
Yeah. Really? Yep.
[01:39:38] Unknown:
Amazing. You get well, you get these villages of four or 500, and then white folks come in and what have you. So there's no chance for education if there is. And the the the the I'll call I guess, the white teachers or the educated of from the 48 that come up, they burn out fast. They're gonna go up there and make a change, and we was up there. The the the they're ending the school. And March is and about they end about April because of the weather May. And the teacher that was in the building were at, she was, I'm done. I'm done. It's been three years. I can't do it. Yeah.
So just all of this in general of listening to what was the the rhetoric on the other side of going, did anyone understand these young boys and girls are killed, gunned down. And so coming to America Yeah. You know? Very much. And we we think of the other countries of like you just said about the the homosexuals. I have a homosexual uncle in Seattle. And, you know, they they they do oh, they they have that thing in, with, in San Francisco on on Easter. They get to mock the Lord and everything. I said, you know something? If you go do that to Mohammed on over in anywhere's Iran. Iran's one of the worst, and I sent him a video on Friday where they throw the homosexuals off the building. Mhmm. It's like Friday toss.
I says, thank goodness we live in a country that we tolerate this. We tolerate what our public is that I don't have to believe your sexual preferences, etcetera, etcetera, but I have to respect them. Right. I I can Respect them means I can live right next door to your man. You can barbecue whatever. And where someone just got sued for a vegan neighbor sued the barbecue person. I don't know where it was this week. I think I heard something about that. Yeah. I I think I did hear something. The next door neighbor for barbecue and steaks or whatever. But I said, you know what? You I I I give you that right, and you have the right. But, you know, you think in these other countries, think about this. But, not all of us are are like I said, it's one of those things.
I told my uncle, I don't care that you're gay, and I don't care that you're gay. There's a meaning for to explain it that way. I don't care, but I don't care. And so, that was my thing today. I was just going over the with JD and, you know, he's he's done a good job too. He's he's he's done a good job and him and his wife are an interfaith. Yes. She is she I'm not sure. Is it is she Buddhist or is she Hindu? I think she's I don't know. I think she's Hindu. Okay. And they seem they get along. And so they did they do a good job, and, I like him. I like what he's done. You know what?
[01:42:19] Unknown:
After 28, I'm I'm definitely I'm gonna support him if he's coming out. Absolutely. You know? Absolutely. So I'm a It's gonna be a Vance Rubio ticket, I think. Hey, Joe. I'm a three time Trump voter. Yeah. Same here. Same here. Yeah. You know, I think I think it's gonna be a Vance Rubio ticket, to be honest with you. Yeah. Probably. Yeah. Because I I think Marco I think Marco Rubio is doing a fantastic job as a secretary of state. He is. He is. Absolutely fantastic.
[01:42:44] Unknown:
My, buddy on the on the, the food side. I'm I'm really involved with the food here because I work for the food banks. Mhmm. And what's going on in the the food banks are finding that's getting the the supplies are down. And this is happening, some of the surplus and whatever. But, like, it's the price of the price of food. You know? It's it's going up. And, like I said, I'm I'm talking with my cattle rancher buddy. He's he's butchering cattle. And he said, he's got a he's got a big bull. So when you get up here, like I said, we're we're gonna treat Joe really good, man. I'm telling you. Well, we'll we'll we'll definitely have to do a a remote show so so we could we could show cooler with with dry ice we're taking as long as the dogs don't get into it. There you go. But, no. We're gonna we're gonna set up a remote show, but,
[01:43:31] Unknown:
my cattle rancher man is Speaking of dogs, I don't know if you hear Charlie barking in the background. He's letting me know he's hungry. It's time for dinner. I hear him.
[01:43:38] Unknown:
This the, the what I talk about doesn't seem like big stuff in the big realm of things, but agriculture, food, food supplies, the supply chain, that's kind of my political thing because I do I have a farm. It's not a big one. I bought just under a 100 chickens, which which is it's fine. But the the people I know that I know I know like I said, they're they may have 200, 400, 600 cattle. And we we take a look and say, what's going on with fertilizer? I know you you know, like I said, fertilizer hit they have enough of that in Washington, DC, but they still needed to to to feed the grasses, to feed our cows. I know a lot of people that would say they're full of fertilizer. Yeah. Exactly. But, Joe, think about it. Water rights. And what's happening in Oregon and Washington, this is becoming a a political freaking wasteland. Like I said, my taxes.
Like I said, they they because I got married to this, but the governor there was a law that it could not go up 11%. Oh, the governor mandated now it can go up to 3%. Wonderful. That's a lot for guys like, you know, less rich guys that are retired. You know, how much we make. But, there's something here. Me and my wife, she she got her new car from the this is a disaster. All that like I said, her getting the legal stuff done, we went and got her a car from the the replacement, you know, the insurance replacement. And we were, sitting there, and we went and celebrated with a a a Taco Bell or whatever it was. And she seen a car coming in the parking lot. Oh, yeah, guys. Fender's all smashed up. Why does he get it taken care of? I go, honey.
Before me, she used to make good money. I'm talking, you know, her late late her ex husband was a Microsoft guy. Okay. So they know what I go, honey, $50,000 nowadays is like middle low class money. I mean, 50,000. Not everybody can just and she I said, you you've drank from the silver cup, which I've never done, you know, 25 g a month working for Microsoft. And she looked at me and she said, you're right. Mhmm. You're right. You know? She goes, people are struggling. I said, they really are. She works at Costco. And she sees those people with the $600 baskets. And the the woman with the huge diamond rings, that's that's that's good, but not everybody's there. Yeah. And there's more and more that aren't. It's it's no longer the middle class. It's the working class. And, Joe, drum roll. I got another good one.
I want it as of this day, I want it changed from the deep state to the dark state. That makes sense. I told my buddy my buddy goes, hell's bells. Let's get a t shirt. Mhmm. It's the dark state. Oh, for sure it is. The deep deep is deep, deep, you know, water, deep swamp. It's now dark. It's a dark state, and the darkness of it is, like I said, the other one is there are just people out there. They are not happy if you're happy. It's just true. And another one I threw out this week in front of a whole group of people, I go, I've got the I've got the solution to life. They said, what is it? I go, live well enough alone and don't manufacture your own problems.
[01:46:47] Unknown:
It's a good start. Sage advice from from Wayne.
[01:46:50] Unknown:
Yeah. Well, you know, Joe I have Wayne's wisdom.
[01:46:54] Unknown:
My my my
[01:46:55] Unknown:
trust tell me if it's wrong. Apip apipathy or whatever the words. And that one point two nanoseconds before I hit that car Mhmm. At 50 miles an hour because the the lady just pulled out. Like, I'm just let me run my running joke was it's a state free State Highway 2. It's a T. I said, you can look left and see a squirrel crap a half a mile away in the middle. I don't know what she wasn't seeing. She goes, I've never seen you. 35 yards in front of us. But half nanosecond. All I could all I could think of is thank you, Jesus.
I will face a judgment, but he's already took the judgment part. It it was but it was my wife next to me, and I turned the car completely opposite. I took the whole blunt of the whole bro. I said, yes, everyone. Rosanna has chipped a toenail. Crazy. Jesus. She's gonna have to go to the toenail therapy place and get her pedigram or pedig what do they say? What do you call this thing? A pedigure.
[01:48:00] Unknown:
She's good. Joe, we have to do a pedicure. No. I'm not doing a pedicure. She does. No. I mean, she. Okay. Yes. Me. I mean, if you wanna do a pedicure, go ahead. I'm I'm good. I'm I'm fine. Actually actually, I did about a month ago
[01:48:13] Unknown:
because I had I my like I said, I couldn't bend down, and she just said, your feet are because of what's going on with my blood flow right now, my feet and everything. But, literally, I got I was a trash, trash tummy.
[01:48:30] Unknown:
But thank God you're okay, though. Thank God you're alive, and thank God, you know, that you could sit here and joke about it, though, brother. That's still joking right there. A lot of other people might, you know, get No. I'm just joking to the cop too. Like, like, oh, like I said, you could see a squirrel down a half a mile. What was she not looking at? He goes, I know. I know. But he goes, okay. Let's go. Nice. Alright, brother. Listen, we we gotta I gotta I gotta start doing the, the closing announcements and stuff like that. So, and, I know you gotta get back to, to take care of Rosanna. So, brother, thank you for for jumping on tonight.
Let us know where we could find you, any, information you wanna pass out, when we're gonna be able to find your show, when you're gonna be ready.
[01:49:10] Unknown:
Yes. When she gets back, we're we're building the studio. We're in fact, my friend Bill from Israel is coming in about two weeks. He wants to come over and do a podcast with me. Mhmm. So we can set up the Israel to America podcast. We're gonna get the logistics done. Like I said, I was doing great a month ago. I I'm a month behind of everything. I'm looking at my garden. I'm looking at everything. But my my my my my input tonight was just the the lack of humanity over this shooting. And I guess it just took me a little it took me it kicked me in the old groin a little bit today. But now, JD, this seems like a true guy.
Groots of just, like, Appalachian in in in this for you when you read his background stuff, he's just you know, he he's not going up there for a press to op. He probably truly in his heart and his wife, who's just seems to she's pretty genuine herself. Yeah. You know, going, honey, let's go let's go pay our definite respects, talking to families. And so I guess it got my mustard today when I heard started reading this stuff and hearing these things. So that's what my whole thing today was. Lord, you know, when did when Jesus said, you know, forgive them for they know not what they do, but he won't forgive this. He will not forgive this. Scripture says so. So back the scripture up with that, you know, because he said suffer the little children. When he said the children, you know, to to you do you do not keep them coming from me, which means from abortion to everything else. And so anyone that hurts a child, it's a number one in his list. But, Joe, have a wonderful week You too, my brother. Show. And, oh, I'm I got on to ezrahealing.com.
I'm looking into their stuff. And I got a couple things for the missus there that she wants to check out, and, I got a few things I'm gonna be looking at there. So, definitely, it's one of your supporters. And did you know
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[01:51:37] Unknown:
Well, I've been through cancer, and my late wife went through cancer, and I did use CBD with her. And, again, it did help some something. Before you go Yes, sir. Three Scotchmen rode the Pacific Ocean 9,000 miles. Three Scotchmen. I'm related to them. Of course you are. For real. The McLeans, the Rankins are part of the McLean clan. The three these hard bellied guys. These rock solid guys. You know what you remind me of? 9,000 miles. You know what you remind me of? You remind me of Alex Jones. Alex Jones seems to be related to everybody everywhere. Some brother Lowell there. Linked to his history somewhere, but, I mean, that's just But Rankin is like Smith over there. I mean, like I said, Mike Myers on Saturday Night Live, but Stewart Rankin, the guy on Saturday Night Live. But the Rankins are a direct lineage to the McLean's, the three McLean brothers, 9,000 miles road. Nice. I like it. That's good. That's man. Blessings to you.
[01:52:33] Unknown:
Blessings to you, brother. Joe. And tell the kids I said hello. I absolutely will. Alright, folks. Wayne Rankin. Thank you so much for being with us tonight, brother. I will, I'll check with you a little bit. Alright, folks. Don't forget to head over to this website, joroos.com. That's joroos.com. Check out our, our email list, our programming announcements email list. Once you get over there, you could just sign up. Once you hit the homepage, a little pop up's gonna come up. Sign up for the email list. Get yourself on the list. It doesn't cost you anything. It's free. We're not gonna sell your information. We're not gonna share your information. We're not gonna give your information away.
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Alright. Let's see. What else do we got? I think I do believe I do believe we've taken care of all of our housekeeping. Well, today, that brings us to our guest, Michael Strangeland. He joins us today. He has, published his debut novel, Junk World, The Ballad of Leroy Brown with the second book in the works. And then beyond that, he has a growing collection of manuscripts, scripts, and concepts always moving through various stages of creation. Michael balances this constant creative output while working in retail and caring for his grandmother. His debut novel, Junk World, takes readers to a planet of discarded machines where fighting where a fighting robot named Leroy Brown must find his way home, only to disc only to discover his fate is tied to a tyrant dog, a tyrant known as the top dog. Sorry.
It's a story of resilience, unexpected battles, and this and the search for hope in a broken world. Michael, are you out there? Are you ready to join us? Yes. Hello. Thank you. Alright. He's here. He made it. Outstanding.
[00:10:27] Unknown:
Well, welcome to the show. We don't have a huge audience,
[00:10:31] Unknown:
on the live side, but we do get much much better downloads after the fact, and our audio audience is much bigger than this. So, don't let the, the tens of listeners, scare you away.
[00:10:43] Unknown:
No. I mean, I look. I'm just hap I just enjoy appearing on these kind of shows in general. So big audience, small audience. I I I enjoy talking sometimes probably too much.
[00:10:57] Unknown:
That's what everybody says about me. I don't know how to shut up.
[00:11:00] Unknown:
Well, you've got I mean, you've got a show for it. So
[00:11:03] Unknown:
Well you got you got, like, what, six, seven days a week to say whatever's on your mind? Yeah. Well, yeah. That's that's right. Yeah. We got six days. It wasn't intended to be six days. Originally, it was supposed to be only three days a week, but, but we've added on a few extras because of just, you you know, just the way things work out, the way the schedules work out. You know, we do a Tuesday show with our with one of our sponsors, Ezra Healing. That's just strictly for them. And then on Thursday, usually, I take off Thursday night, but but Thursday, I was sick the last two weeks. So, I have to make up because I had to cancel some shows. So I have to I'm doing some makeup shows with some guests that we canceled. So that's tomorrow.
And then Friday night show, we got a regular full full slate for Friday night. And then, I think Saturday, this coming Saturday, I think I'm I'm doing a private show Saturday because I'm testing out some new some new equipment that we have. So, so not it's not gonna be for public consumption, but I'll still be doing work. So and then Sunday show, and then Mondays, and then Tuesdays, and then Wednesday. So, yeah, it's a pretty busy schedule, but, you know, people is you have a lot of time to I mean, if you like to talk, you've got a lot of time to do it. Yeah. You know how many times I I get text messages from friends that listen to the show or watch the show telling me to shut up and let the guest speak. It's it's it's really terrible. I'm I'm really bad at it. So, so let's see. So what's what's something that most people don't know about you but should?
[00:12:35] Unknown:
Well, that's yeah. I'm not I I can't say I necessarily have a good question for that off the top of my head. That's not something I frequently think about. Like, this is something people should know about me but don't. Because I think with the people that I am familiar with, if there's something that I think people should know, I usually don't have too much trouble making sure people know it.
[00:13:02] Unknown:
Okay. Fair enough. How about this?
[00:13:05] Unknown:
Well, actually, one thing that comes to mind k. That because this is this is kind of a funny thing because the actual pronunciation of my name is Stangland. Oh. See, the thing is now you're not the only person who's made that mistake. It's a regular thing. It's just oh, and just a long time back, I wound up taken to joking about it where for I guess I must be haunted by a really petty pirate. So in some ways, I kinda find so sometime so, you know, and and I think I mean, it's a dumb joke, but I think it's a fun joke. So sometimes this question of, do I actively wanna make sure people know, or do I wait and see if they mispronounce it, which which is what usually happens, which gives me the opportunity to make the joke.
[00:13:53] Unknown:
Alright. So what's the joke? Let's hear it. No. The I already I'm kidding. I'm joking. I'm I'm I'm playing Fair enough. I'm playing with you. But I know what you're saying though because my my last name is actually a lot longer than what it is for the show. I just shortened it for the show. Okay. Well, that's reasonable. But I, you know, growing up, you know, they used to call me Joe Ruz, in the neighborhood back in Brooklyn. So or Ruz. So it just stayed. My but my full last name is Ruziello. So,
[00:14:20] Unknown:
Yeah. That does sound that does sound like it could get complicated. Oh, it does.
[00:14:24] Unknown:
It's been mangled in so many ways. I just give up. I just like, yeah, it's it's close enough. That's fine. You know, it's all good. Alright. So, how about this one then? So, what's what's a go to beverage for you to help you unwind at the end of the day?
[00:14:41] Unknown:
Well, I don't know if I have, like, one at the end of the day, a beverage that help me helps me unwind. Though, if I do have a go to beverage, it would probably be just general milk because I go through a lot of that. Well, that's a body good. Right? Yeah. No. I it's yeah. I mean, there's yeah. I yeah. It's like one of those things where, you know, you see the where, you know, milk obviously comes with expiration labels, but I never really have to worry about it because I never because even when I'm getting it by the gallon, I never have to worry about it expiring. It's just, you know, it's just a thing I enjoy drinking, and it's a good go to. It tastes good.
[00:15:28] Unknown:
Well, I I I I tease you a little bit about it only because you're you're the second person that I've asked that question to that have ants that's answered about milk. And and as a matter of fact, one of the previous guests, he he was the first one to mention that, and we actually share a common, I don't know if it's a phobia or not, but maybe maybe an anxious tic or something. But, we both go we both get nervous or or uncomfortable when we look in the fridge and we see we're we're down to a certain amount of milk left. It's like, I gotta go out and get more. And I don't know if I from myself. He he said that it had to do with the, the ad campaign, you know, got milk, you know, back then.
So he he thinks it's attributed to that in his case. In my case, I think it was because of my grandparents. My my grandparents' depression era, you know, every you had to make sure you always had the basics in the house, you know, and the basics to them was was milk, eggs, bread, and cheese. You gotta have all that. If you don't have if you don't have that, then you're in trouble. So my growing up, you know, that's all they would emphasize to us as we were growing up. Make sure you have this, this, this, and this, And God forbid, you were down to only a gallon of milk. You had to run out and get another one to have the backup. So
[00:16:48] Unknown:
No. I I totally understand that, because yeah. If I I I mean, I maybe don't go to that level, but if I see, like, oh, we're under a gallon of milk, I better either be I better both be careful to make sure I don't drink so so much that there's none in the fridge, and I better make sure because, like, as you mentioned, like, my day job is in retail, which yeah. I mean, I I mean, there are a whole bunch of things I could say about that, but one of the I mean, one of the things that I'd say is a benefit that you don't think about too much is that on it it's probably a good bet that I will soon be at this I'm gonna be at the store regardless. So even if I'm low on milk, I can just say, oh, I just need to make sure to pick up a new gallon when I come home Right. Next time I'm at work. Yeah. I I got you. I I I got you on that one. I I used to work. I used to I I can understand someone someone having that kind of mindset about, hey. There's this thing I think I really
[00:17:47] Unknown:
need or I go through a lot and don't wanna make sure I don't run out. Yeah. Yeah. And, I love to cook, so I I always like to have and and I I'm I'm gonna embarrass myself now. I I just recently started baking, and I I hate baking. I always hated baking, but my sister challenged me to to bake something, So I did, and now it's like, oh, I'm gonna try it again. You know? So, but yeah. Anyway, I can go on for that for forever. I mean, there's there's nothing embarrassing about being able to bake. It's one it's just a basic skill. Yeah. I just I just think, like, I'm I'm more of a savory cook. I I like I like to cook savory meals. So, doing the sweet stuff isn't isn't my bag, but, you know, hey. Hey. Look. What I made last week came out pretty good. It's the first time I ever made a crumb cake, a crumb coffee cake. So it came out pretty good. I I'm not gonna say it didn't. I I gotta make some adjustments on things, but it came out pretty good. It came out pretty good. But Michael, I wanna ask you about some some questions about inspiration. So when when it comes to creating the plot for your story, where do you find your inspiration?
[00:18:54] Unknown:
I would say that really inspiration could come from anywhere. I it's especially when you're actively looking for inspiration. And, I mean, as a writer, I'm not looking to write, oh, I just have this one book and I can call myself a writer. It is what I would genuinely like to eventually become a full career. Like, this is how I get my primary source of income or this is what I primarily go to. So if I'm gonna be doing that, I wanna make sure I don't have a shortage of stories. I wanna make sure that I'm not in a place where I run out ideas and I'm struggling to think it out. So I am I mean, I am regularly on the lookout for stories, and they really could come from anywhere. I mean, the junk world, the, I'd say, the core inspiration kinda built around the main character himself.
The inspiration and the inspiration for that character came from, if you're familiar with the TV show BattleBots or the movie Re Real Steel Mhmm. That kind of robot on robot combat. There's another story that that I previously wrote, but kinda put on the shelf because I tried going through the the standard, you know, publishing process of finding an agent and all that, but it I just couldn't find an agent, but I thought, okay. But I still believe in this book. I still think it has value, so I'll put it on the shelf. Maybe I can go back to it later. Where that actually came I mean, the inspiration for that book that I plan to go back to, it came from, there's this podcast that I regularly listen to. It's called 372 pages will never get back, which it has, Mike Nelson, if you're familiar with either RiffTrax or, I've heard of him. Yeah. Yeah. Previously, the, you know, Mystery Science Theater 03/3000, him and one of the per people that works with him on RiffTrax, Connor Lestoka.
So they go through books they do not expect to like. Okay. And yeah. I mean, it's it's very much in I mean, it's very much enjoyable to listen to them, you know, go through these bad books. But one of the things that I did not expect when I started listening to it is that, hey. I can actually get even out of these bad books, I can still get inspiration. I mean, it helps that one of those books is actually good because where the podcast gets its name its name from is what started the whole thing is the book, Ready Player One.
[00:21:37] Unknown:
Okay. And,
[00:21:38] Unknown:
look, admittedly, I've never read that book myself. I haven't watched the movie myself. But I think based on what I've listened to other people say and what I've read about it, I have a general sense of the book. And I can agree that, yeah, I mean, if you dig into it, sure, people enjoy it. But there is a lot of stuff where I where I can also understand people, you know you know, tearing through it or making fun of it. But at the same time, I'm thinking, okay. But there's actually some cool stuff in here. And even if maybe the narrative isn't great, I can understand, for example, perhaps the main appeal is, okay, you've got this virtual world where you can just throw all this pop culture stuff that people enjoy into it.
And so my thought was, okay, maybe I could take that and challenge myself to see, can I take that and can I can I challenge myself to try and do something better? Like, rather than just go along with the people that are saying, well, this book is actually it's actually a dumb book. Can I instead, you know, take the stuff that is in that book that I think is cool and and go, can I myself actually do better? Can I challenge myself to do better and maybe build off on that rather than just, you know, be with you know, just being one of those people that thinks it's fun to tear it down?
There's and there's another book that I'd like to get it to at some point, but I don't but it's more of a an idea stage. Like, there's another book in there that's like, one of the Bram Stoker's lesser known books, like, layer of the white worm where and this one I did actually read through after the fact where, yeah, there's a lot of problems with it, but it's another case of, okay, it's not a great book, but there are some cool ideas in here. Sure. I'm actually familiar with the book. I've read it. Okay.
[00:23:44] Unknown:
Probably one of the few, but but I've read it. And and you're absolutely right. You could you could get some really good nuggets of information. Like, somebody once said to me, you know, every every once in a while, you'll even find a diamond in the garbage pill.
[00:24:00] Unknown:
Yeah. Or I think I I mean, I think a really good quote that even if it doesn't directly relate to this, like, what is one of the if you've seen the movie Ratatouille, what is the one of the key quotes in there? You know, anyone can cook, but it's not about, you know, not necessarily anyone can become a great cook, but a great cook could come from anywhere. And you can really apply that logic to all sorts of places. Oh, yeah. Sure. Like, not everything is a good idea. You know, not everything can provide a good idea, but you never know where a good idea might actually come from.
[00:24:37] Unknown:
Very true. So then can you walk us through how junk world came to life from that very, very first spark, of the first idea that you had, all the way up to the finished product in your hands?
[00:24:50] Unknown:
Yeah. I can I can try and run through it, because sometimes, especially when it starts to get a BOL, you know? But the the idea, as I think I previously mentioned, it did start with the character of Leroy Brown himself. I initially created this character sort of for a a a setting that someone else had created online, and I thought, you know, it's you know, this is kind of a neat setting. I created the character for it, and I liked the character that I created. And I liked the backstory I had created for this character, Leroy Brown, who is a war bot turned arena fighter. Mhmm. So I I thought, you know, I'm enjoying this character. I'm enjoying this backstory.
So what I did is I took the character, and I created an entirely I created an original setting. Now it took inspiration from the original setting, but I did it both so that it no. I'm not just plagiarizing what someone else created. And two, when I'm creating my own version of it, it allows me to establish the setting and the rules of the setting and the details of the setting so that they fit the story I wanna tell rather than trying to just take someone else's work. So from there, the next step was a lot of it kind of form I what often happens when I'm trying to put books together, especially in the early stages, is a lot of the in a way, I guess, the real first draft, I wind up forming it in my head. Like, I brainstorm scenes and concepts.
And so that's how a lot of it went. And then I also as I'm doing that, I'm also kinda trying to jot down just a general outline of to kinda solidify, okay, here's how the story is actual here's a solid here's a a solid blueprint of the narrative so that I can actually get from point a from from the beginning to the end with a narrative that is actual that actually makes sense, that actually has some kind of through line. So yeah. And at that phase, it's so once I have that, then the next step is to actually write out write out a a genuine draft that is readable. It's more it's a genuine story that, yeah, it needs a lot of work, but it is something that someone could actually read through, get the story, get the sense of what's supposed to be going on.
And in that phase, it's largely that first written draft. A piece of advice that I heard a what a a while back that I really like is the first draft is just about getting the story written. It's having a it's about having it's about having something that is a full story even if it's got a lot of problems because then you have something this is an actual product. It may have a lot of flaws. There may be a lot of parts of it that don't make sense, but you have a foundation you can build upon. And once you have that foundation, you could then sit back, look at it, and say, okay. What's wrong with this foundation, and what do I actually have to work with?
And from there, it's it was mostly a matter of rewriting till I had, this is a version of the book that I would that I would be happy and content seeing published. Mhmm. Now there may be stuff that could be changed. Maybe there'll be things in it that that I'll be told, well, this needs some reworking. But as a completed product where I say, yeah. I would be content with this being published, that's when I went on to the phase of of trying to be traditional publishing route where I take this manuscript, I have it in a space where I think it is good, and see if I can find an agent that can help me take that next step.
Especially since it was my understanding that when I'm trying the traditional route of publishing, what's supposed to happen is, like, the money is supposed to be flowing to the author. So maybe there's stuff that needs to be done, but if you have a traditional publishing house, well, if they like your work and they're legitimate, then they'll be taking the steps of making sure the book is edited. Anyway, at that phase, I am in the process of trying to find an agent, which includes a lot of research for agents to reach out to and then a lot of letter writing Mhmm. To actually try and convince these agents, hey. Here's a book that is worth your time to try and sell to a publisher.
And long story short, I didn't find an agent who was interested. I came close, but something just didn't work out there and didn't really go beyond initial conversation. So I eventually I I put together initially a list of agents that I I thought, hey. This person might be viable. This person might take interest. And so I'd gotten through this entire list of agents, and I had not I had not gotten one, and it was pretty clear that I had exhausted my options on literary agents. Okay. Now I have this book that I don't have a literary agent for, but it's a it is a book that I still think is good. I still think it has value. And so I say, okay. I can't do anything with it now, but maybe at some point, you know, taking the hopeful route, taking the long the long view, I think, maybe someday, you know, if I actually get another book that is successful, I can come back to this and say, okay. You like what I have published. People are buying this. Maybe you could take a look at this other book I already have written and ready to go through the publishing process and all that.
So the book ultimately sat on the shelf for a bit. And so we jump forward. Now you also mentioned in the intro that one of the things that I I have as a responsibility is that I take care of my grandmother. I I have this role of a kind of, you know, live in in home caretaker kind of situation, which Okay. I mean, all things considered, it works out really well. But not to get too far aside. Now with me living with my grandmother, she she is aware that of, you know, my writing aspirations, the stuff I do with writing. And I had been doing this I had been doing this a while with us living you know, me living with her, and I hadn't really achieved anything. Yeah. I had books written, but I wasn't achieving real success.
So she asks she asks questions about the process, which leads to, is there anything she can do to help? Mhmm. So short version there, this is with her asking if there's ways she can help, this is when I ultimately jump from before then, I was focused on trying to do the traditional publishing route, hoping to, you know, write a book that has some genuine that I think has genuine value, find an agent, the agent finds a publisher, book gets published. And if the book is as good as I I want it to be, as I'm aiming it to be, well, hey. I got a book that's successful and, you know, that just launches the whole career. But with this conversation with my grandma, this is when I finally go, okay. I guess I will take a look at the self publishing or hybrid pub you know, the process where I I mean, I think that it's a process that's gained more legitimately over the years, especially as you see you see more and more issues with the traditional publishing gatekeepers.
[00:33:07] Unknown:
Mhmm.
[00:33:08] Unknown:
And so when so at that point, I go from I'm trying to figure find an agent to I'm trying to find, like, a publishing a, you know, I guess, hybrid what I ultimately ended up with is a hybrid publisher that I made contact with. And from there, you know, this publisher, we worked together to put a book together a book that they were able to put to that they were able to make ready for print, and I was happy with. And, ultimately, that's how
[00:33:45] Unknown:
the book became available for people to purchase and read. That's a that's a process. I mean, just just here. And How long did that take? From from start to finish, roughly, about how long did that take?
[00:33:58] Unknown:
Well, from the first idea to it actually getting, you know, a physical copy, it took it took a few years. I can't actually remember how far well, I I mean, I couldn't remember off the top of my head, but I'd say but I don't know. I I could probably look at I could probably figure out if I looked it up, but the short version is, the book that I mentioned, the idea that I had written about, hey. I'm going to see if I could take the ideas I like from Ready Player One and do something better. The book that I was writing I mean, that that book kind of was written in a sort not not simultaneously, but kind of, like, con I mean, kinda one with the other. They kinda flipped a bit. So it would be sometime after I I guess it would be sometime around the time that movie want that movie launched. I mean, sometime after that, like, maybe a year or so.
So it's it was it was a several year process from the initial idea for this story to the act the book actually getting published. But I'd say there was at least a couple year period where it was just the book sitting on the shelf waiting for its opportunity.
[00:35:20] Unknown:
Wow. That's a I got you know, I I don't I don't think a lot of folks realize just how difficult it is to to to write a book and get it published. And I and you're right. I think that's why, the idea of, self publishing is gaining more and more much more legitimacy as these days go on, because it is much harder to to find a publishing house that's willing to take on a new project is from especially for somebody who's new in the industry.
[00:35:47] Unknown:
Well yeah. And and, unfortunately, part of it also has to do with I mean, the way the the traditional publishing industry is right now, based on everything I understand about it, they're really looking there's not so much a focus on is the book good, is the book sellable, so much as are we finding the right books from the right people, not even based on the right the right people because they're good at what they do. And, I mean, if I were really get into it I mean, that's, I mean, that's the thing that really ticks me off about just the entertainment media in general right now is that I have no problem with other people having success. You know, if another person has a generally good book and that does great while my book languishes, that I don't have a problem with. What I have a problem with is the, you know, the writers and directors and all that that clearly do not know what they're doing, are clearly making bad bad material, but somehow they keep getting hired.
[00:36:52] Unknown:
Yeah. That's that's, like, that's a it's a very interesting conundrum there. Absolutely. And, but also too, you know, a lot of writers don't hit the big time on the first attempt either, you know. So and you do have other projects that you're working on. Well, yeah. I mean and that's,
[00:37:07] Unknown:
I mean, that's part of what helps keep me going because I recognize I mean, it it helps I mean, I guess, I don't know if helps is the right word, but I I recognize that one of my weaknesses is that I am not a great salesperson even as I realize it's an important skill. But I recognize that one of my own weaknesses is I don't have a great I I I don't have a great hands on convincing people that this is because my mindset is that with with advertising, the the core of advertising is convincing people that they need this product. Right. But then my mindset goes to whether there are very few things that you actually need. Like, if you've got shelter, you've got food, you've got I mean, then you have I mean, if you have those things, okay, maybe it may be basic, but you do have everything you actually need. And so I'm personally facing that conundrum of how do I convince people that they, quote, unquote, need this product when I think that, ultimately it's not something that you need even if it may even if, hopefully, it will improve your life in some way.
[00:38:26] Unknown:
Yeah. I agree with you. I agree with you. And especially if you have milk, you have to have milk. So what what are what are the biggest challenges that you deal with when you're writing, and and what are some of the strategies that you use to push yourself through that?
[00:38:41] Unknown:
Well, I think that with the actual writing process, the biggest obstacle comes with rewriting and deciding, is this is this something that actually you know, what actually needs to be rewritten and what needs what is good as is? Because, I mean, while there are different ways you could interpret it, there's that phrase of, well, be prepared to kill your darlings.
[00:39:08] Unknown:
Mhmm.
[00:39:09] Unknown:
The problem is, how do you know whether something actually needs to be killed? Or are you just killing it for the sake of killing it? Because I mean, while it is I mean, you could you could just as easily go either way because you could, on the one hand, well, this needs to change, but I like it too much and so I'm keeping it because I wanna keep it even though it doesn't belong. On the other hand, I could go too far the other way and say, well, I need things to change. The book needs revisions. So am I going out of my way to find things to change that don't actually need to be changed? I see. And so that can be that can be a very difficult thing to figure out, and it's one of I'd say one of the biggest benefits of if I can get someone to do, you know, go through it and read it for me and give me feedback, that that's one of the biggest benefits of that one of the benefits of that. And even then, I have to look at the feedback and think, is the feed now the person may give genuinely good feedback, may give honest feedback, but at the same time, the person may not have a full understanding of how everything goes together. And so I have to decide, is this is can I use this feedback or do I have to make the judgment call of, no, the way things are in the book now, that's that is the best option for it?
[00:40:42] Unknown:
Yeah. Now now writing science fiction, I love science fiction, by the way. Just so just so I I don't think I don't think there are many people who don't like science fiction, at least like it. But I've been a sci fi nut ever since I'm a kid. Ever since I saw Star Trek, the motion picture on the big screen for the first time, I I think I was seven years old. And, I saw that thing oh, no. Actually, no. I was, like, eight eight or nine. And, as as horrible of a movie as it was, at eight or nine years old, I didn't care about that. I was just stunned by the visuals of it and what I saw, and I thought it was the most amazing, incredible thing ever. And from that point on, I became a huge Trekkie.
But, but, you know, when you when you write science fiction, you're you're essentially creating a whole new world, a whole new narrative. There are lots of challenges in that. What are some of the challenges about creating this world that the reader probably never experienced?
[00:41:49] Unknown:
Yeah. I'm I'm not sure if I do have a good answer for that. I mean, it's I mean, I don't I don't know, like, if it's my perspective, but I I mean, I guess, unique to science fiction, I'm I mean, maybe if I'm just I mean, because I think it's something that maybe applies to fantasy as well is that an important thing to keep in mind with these works that go beyond, you know, not the nonfiction world we live in is that it is still important to keep one foot grounded in reality. And something that I learned early on is that, no, science fiction and fantasy is not a a license to write whatever you want. You still have to keep you still have to keep things grounded within their within their own reality, and you do have to if you if something is going to diver if something is going to wild wildly go in a different direction from the world as we know it, it has to be done in a way that that makes sense within its that makes sense within its own world.
Like, if if peep like, there are certain elements I mean, there's a lot of elements of human nature that are universal and Right. Even, you know, might when they might not be, people an an audience is still gonna expect characters to act a certain way. So if you're gonna have characters that that don't act in that way, you're gonna have to, first, make it consistent within the universe and, two, get across to the audience I mean, that this is how it works in this universe and why it works in this universe. You have to it has to carry an element of believability within the universe itself.
Like, a simple thing would be gravity. I mean, eve I mean, even in science fiction and fantasy, you still have gravity. Sure. You can maybe dismiss it when you're weightless in space. Right. But, you know, if you suddenly have characters ignoring ignoring gravity for some reason, well, you better have a good reason for it or do it in a way that is going to make sense or that audiences are going to go along with.
[00:44:13] Unknown:
Well, that makes a lot of sense. That that that does make sense. Let me see. You said something I'm trying to remember I as you were speaking, a question came into my mind, and I I it just kinda, like, flipped out of it.
[00:44:25] Unknown:
I'll probably have to end up coming back to it. Well, no. I mean, that I I experienced I experienced that frequently with my grandma where I mean, yeah. I love her and but it's one of those things where when you do get up in age Hey. Well, I mean, you mentioned that you recalled seeing you recalled seeing Star Trek on the big screen unless you saw it in the rerelease. Well, that definitely says something, but you've got some years on you. Yeah. I'll be 55 this year. I'm not that that advanced.
[00:44:52] Unknown:
But yeah. You are never coming on my show again. I'm kidding. I'm teasing you. So so if money, legal rights, time wasn't an issue for you, what's a dream project that you would love to take on?
[00:45:11] Unknown:
Like, no, like, no restrictions at all. I could do anything. I I'd say what this I mean, the single biggest absolute dream project would be doing a film version of my favorite work of fiction, which may may come off as a bit of an odd answer, but it's actually a what a book from the old Star Trek or Star Wars Star Wars expanded universe, Starfighters of Adomar. It would I I mean I mean, no restrictions, no rules, all the resources. I mean, it would because I mean, it being a book that I really enjoyed that even though it is, you know, it's it's a sign I mean, it's science fiction book, but it's it's I mean, some people may yeah. But it's a licensed book from Star Wars, so it's it can't be that big a deal. But it's it's a book I read when I was growing up, and there's a lot about the book.
I think it's one of those things where I read it at the right age and at the right time, which as I understand it, that happens with a lot of people is the if you the the stories you read at the right just at the right time in your life, those ones can really stick with you with through your life. I see. Yeah. You know, there's that formative element. So I'd say that dream project, no restrictions, no rules. I'd wanna find a way to put together a film adaptation of this of Starfighters of Adhemar, which is my favorite
[00:46:46] Unknown:
my favorite work of fiction. Fiction. Because I'm not familiar with the expanded universe of Star Wars. I'm I'm a I'm a Star Wars fan. I love Star Wars movies, but I'm not, I I never really got into the expanded universe. So can you what exactly is the story about?
[00:46:59] Unknown:
Well, in the well, you've seen the movies though. Right? Of course. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So this so Starfighter Starfighters of Anomar, it's part of the x wing book series. Now if you've seen the the Star Wars movies, particularly the original trilogy, you may remember the carry character of Wedge Antilles, who is he's a very minor character, but he Oh, yeah. Yeah. He shows it in all three of the movies. He's the guy who goes from nobody could blow up the death star to he's the only guy in the whole series to help destroy two death stars. Right. That's Well, anyways, the x wing book series is basically they built an entire books they basically put him as the main character of an entire subseries.
And in this particular book, Wedge and three other pilots are sent on this diplomatic mission to a recently rediscovered planet where the gimmick or, as it might be said, the the hat of this planet is that their entire social structure is pretty much centered around pilots. So they being the best pilots in the New Republic, they are sent to persuade this planet to join the New Republic. And as they soon find out, they're also competing against the the best pilots that the empire or what's left of the empire has to offer. And it's an interesting to it's interesting to go through the book because it starts out there's a wedge when he's first told about this mission, this planet, he makes a joke about, hey. We should implement this social structure in the New Republic.
But as the book goes on, it examines, hey, this this planet and its culture, what we're finding out, hey, it's not so great after all because among other things, the pilots that they're they frequently they're frequently doing doing starfighter duels, but they are starfighter duels to the death. So you've got kinda this culture that has this element of bloodlust to it in that they're fighting each other for glory that has I mean, they're just fighting for glory and social structure, and it's I I think that what really strikes with me, and in some ways, I think that it resonates even stronger today, is this element of conflicting cultures and con in contrary to what some people would like to present, not every culture is equal. There are some cultures that are better than others. There I mean, oftentimes, you will have a culture that, yeah, it's got some great things, but it also has some not so great things Mhmm. That which, I mean, if you look at America itself, one of the things that has made it great, it is is that when you have that traditionally, the way it did work is that when you had someone come in with someone come to the country, they would, by and large, adapt to the culture that is here. But if they had great ideas of their own from their own culture, hey. Guess what? We can take that the good parts of that culture and it'll make America as a nation stronger. Right. Yeah. It would adapt they they they're able to make it adapt to the environment that they're in. Yeah. Sure. That and, you know, and it became a stronger, unified culture that implemented the best parts of the people coming here as they, you know, the the strong elements of culture survive.
And the parts that weren't great, well, they got they got left behind while adapting to the stronger American culture.
[00:50:36] Unknown:
Yeah. That that make that makes sense. And so so I I I gotta get into the expanded universe, because that that's a really interesting story, and I I need to check that out. So,
[00:50:49] Unknown:
Oh, yeah. Look. I mean, yeah. The the I mean, the the old expanded universe before it was before, you know, Lucas Lucasfilm was sold to like, I mean, yeah. People there are some complaints people make about it that are legit, but especially once it I mean, I'd say the real turning point is once you get to the Thrawn trilogy that people love. Like, that's kind of the starting point of when the the ex the expanded universe really came together where in some ways, I'd say Star Wars is like its own subgenre of science fiction. Like, you've got science fiction in general, and then you've got sub I understand that. Yeah.
Oh, yeah. And for and for me, it's I mean, ultimately, with what we've seen happen to Star Wars now, I I look at that decision where Star Wars just jettisoned all that expanded universe, which at first seemed like, why are they getting rid of all this stuff? There's there's, like, a lot of great stuff here. It's it's I see it as a blessing in disguise because I still love the Lucas first Star Wars. And if if Disney doesn't wanna touch that stuff, doesn't wanna go back to that, hey. That's great because it makes it easier to tell, hey. This is this this is the the Lucas first canon that I accept as my Star Wars canon, and I can just ignore
[00:52:10] Unknown:
the stuff that Disney puts out as their own stuff. No. That's not that's not my canon. Maybe there's fun I maybe there's occasionally a fun idea there, but I can continue to love the Star Wars that I used to love without having to worry about Disney making a mess of it too. Yeah. I I I and I can relate to you because, like, I I was never a big fan I'm gonna speak anathema here right now, but I was never a big fan of the Next Generation series with with in Star Trek. And, you know, I I just could never really get into the characters, and I just it it just to me, just felt very sterile and very just blah. But, so I I understand where you're coming from with that one. But but have you ever thought about writing, an expanded universe book?
[00:52:54] Unknown:
Well, see, that's a, I mean, the expanded universe or writing up, that gets into either fan fiction or else you'd have to work with the company. Now nothing against fan fiction in and of itself. Yeah. There's a lot of bad fan fiction, but there's also fan fiction that people do really well. A lot of great ideas can come from that. The thing is that when regarding that, if I were to just do it as an act of fun, I have to consider okay. I am try I mean, right now, my writing is admittedly it's kind of more in a hobby state, but it is something I'm trying to turn into a career. So then I run into the problem of, if it's a hobby right now, if I take that time to write something that I know I can't get I really can't get published, that I know interferes on the copyright of a company, well, then that takes time away and resources away from trying to write a new book, a new project that I can actually sell and actually get money off of and can hopefully that can help catapult me into where I can do writing as a regular thing.
[00:54:03] Unknown:
And that's a great segue into my next question. Without giving away too much, can you share any information or give us a hint about what your next project's looking like?
[00:54:12] Unknown:
Well, the funny thing is that's kind of changed over the path over the course of the past year or so, but I feel very confident that my next, I mean, my next book is very close to being ready. It's act it's actually a major shift where the book I'm planning to I am currently planning to get published next is actually a children's fairy tale, kind of a throwback to some of the older fairy tale stuff, but maybe more in the in line with the kind of Wizard of Oz or, Okay. Alice in Wonderland. Like yeah. But it's a fairy tale. I think I'm close enough. I it the name of it is called The Taming of the Moon Dragon.
So it's it's got a it's got a bit of a classic story of but but with a bit of a twist where you've got a dragon that mistakes a maiden for a princess and, you know, abducts her thinking, hey. If I have this princess, I can ransom her and get a huge fortune really quick and easily. Well, not realizing that, oh, this this girl he's abducted is actually just the daughter of a carpenter. And so meanwhile so on that end, I mean, the dragon is waiting for a hero to come along while the the young lady is trying to figure out, okay, can I manage my own escape somehow because there because I mean, she she's not some princess? She's not gonna have a knight riding to rescue her. She's deep in the woods. Meanwhile, there is, in fact, someone coming to rescue her. And so you've got the other side of the story of you've got a person going through a quest trying to get to her and the challenges that he encounters on the way. So that's kind of a general overview view about the what the book is about. The biggest delay has actually been working on the art for it.
Because first, I I the the first big thing that I wanted to do is I had a very specific idea for the cover because, you know, it's a children's book and one of those the things that I was familiar with, you know, with some of the children books I grow grew up with is they have this sort of, kinda construction papers type of style. So I spent a very extended period putting together a book cover and a back of a cover by cutting out physical pieces of construction paper and then properly gluing them together. And then more recently, it's been doing actual illustrations for inside the book, which last night even, I finally finished the last of the the the guide hand drawn guide that now I need to scan into my computer and do finalized versions for. So it's been a very long process, but I am very close to having it ready. Alright. Outstanding.
[00:57:01] Unknown:
So, we're gonna start to wrap this up here at this point because we're club coming up on the hour. So who is somebody that you respect right now, and what are they doing that inspires you?
[00:57:17] Unknown:
I mean, I think I could give answer. I'm just trying to think what's
[00:57:24] Unknown:
It could be me if you want. You know, that's fine. I'm kidding.
[00:57:29] Unknown:
I mean, this is okay. I know this is gonna be a controversial answer depending on who hears it, but I'd say I I'd say I mean, I'd say Trump. Okay. I mean, because he's, I mean, he's I mean, yeah. I know he gets a lot of hate, but it's there's a whole bunch of controversy there. But, I mean, I think if you look at him, you think that what he's actively trying to do and amount the the amount of hate he gets, and if you're actually willing to you'll research in what's going on and can maybe try and put aside your, it's I mean, he is I I mean, I think that if you'd look at it honestly, you can see he is trying to do the right thing and he's putting a lot of his own he's he's kinda putting he's genuinely putting his own neck on the line in spite of all the hate he gets for it. Well, I agree with you. I I agree with you. I I don't I don't think that, I I don't think he has any,
[00:58:22] Unknown:
negative motivation for the things that he's doing. I think he legitimately loves the country, and he legitimately loves, the people of this country, whether they're left or right or or center or wherever they are in this political spectrum. I think that he he genuinely wants to see America to become great again, and, and I I I know it's just spewing a a a campaign slogan, you know, make America great again, but I really think that's his heart. I don't think I mean I mean, and one of the really sad things about it is, I mean, even if you
[00:58:53] Unknown:
don't I mean, even if you don't necessarily agree with him, I would think people would hope that I mean, rather than, you know, wish death upon him Mhmm. Maybe, hey, how are ways that we can help point him in the right direction or I mean, because who would who would not want their own country to be great, would not want their own country to achieve some kind of greatness, or want their own country to do to be better? Globalists.
[00:59:23] Unknown:
People people who don't want to see a pick people who wanna control every aspect of your life and, depopulate the planet, and keep it only for a select few of people. You know, you you go I I look. I can get into all that stuff. We'll we'll be here. We'll be here all night long. This that's my that's my wheelhouse, brother. So
[00:59:43] Unknown:
Yeah. But That's an that's see, that's another reason to was this the right person to name because of all the tangents, and so it's you have to you have to actually stop yourself from I love I love president Trump. I I think he's doing a fantastic job.
[00:59:58] Unknown:
I think, despite everything that this man has been through, you know, the the the simple fact that he still has a heart to serve the country and to serve every single American, and to and to and to make sure that that this country is great, financially secure, prosperous, and safe is is tremendous. Do I agree with every direction he goes? No. Do I agree with everything that he that he says? No. But that's fine. That's the beauty of of of being, I I I guess, of of being a conservative, or I like to call myself a conservatarian, But, you know, I think that's the beauty of it. You don't have to walk lockstep with what the party's telling you to do and what the party's telling you to say. You see that a lot with liberals and democrats. They they walk lockstep together. They don't disagree with each other. They just march forward together.
But what do you have with that? You have automatons.
[01:00:52] Unknown:
Yeah. I mean and likewise. I I mean, not every I may not agree with every decision Trump's makes, but my my general opinion on him for years now has been basically to paraphrase what Abraham Lincoln infamously said about Ulysses s Grant. We cannot spare this man. He fights.
[01:01:13] Unknown:
There you go. Excellent point. And we're gonna close-up on that one. So, Michael, where can we go to get your book? Where can we go to find you on any social medias? Anything like you wanna direct us to?
[01:01:23] Unknown:
What I will direct people to is what I have turned to my general, hey, if you wanna get the book, go here, is that I direct people to Goodreads. Look up Junk World, The Ballad Ballad of Leroy Brown by MK Stengel Junior on Goodreads. Main thing being that on the Goodreads page, you can find a menu that will take you to just all the major book sellers and wherever you prefer to buy your books from, that's where you can that's I mean, it'll let you go there. Outstanding.
[01:01:54] Unknown:
Michael Stengland? Am I say it? Stengland. Stengland. You said it right.
[01:01:58] Unknown:
Alright. Do not do not do not entertain the petty pirate.
[01:02:03] Unknown:
Outstanding. Alright, my friend, Michael. You have a great night. Thank you so much for this. Folks, Michael Stengland. Make sure you check out his book on Goodreads. Search it up. We'll put a we'll put some information about that on in the show notes so folks can find it easy. And, again, thank you so much, Brent. I I wish you the best with the book, and I hope everything works out great for you. And wanna see Thanks for having me on. I had a great time. Yeah. So did I. Thank you so much. You have a great one. Good evening. You too now. Alright, folks. We're gonna take a little bit of a break here. When we come back from this break, we're gonna have, our executive producer, Wayne Rankin, join us for the second hour of the show. But, before you before we do that, I'm gonna go run to the little boys room, get a refill on my coffee, and, we'll get, we'll get back to Wayne. So folks, don't forget, this is a live show weeknights, 7PM central time. Weekends, we got Saturday shows 3PM, and we got Sunday show at 6PM. So make sure you check us out.
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[01:11:44] Unknown:
K. I'm working on it, Joe. Can you hear me? Hear you. I got the the vocals going. Where's the enable camera? We did this last time. It's just piece it doesn't want it doesn't my warning, you're about to be on stage.
[01:11:57] Unknown:
Here we go. There it is. The the the joys of doing a live show, you see, you gotta work all these things out.
[01:12:05] Unknown:
It's someone who's like I'd you know, I never wanna give up my flip phone. I actually didn't wanna give up my landline. So I went from landline to struggling to get a flip phone to what this thing is here. Well That's something really,
[01:12:18] Unknown:
how to put a different picture. Before before we get into that, Wayne, slow down. Slow down. We got an hour, so slow down. Right. I know I know you love I know you love to talk you you got your points. I know you I know you wanna do it, so let's just slow down. In through your nose, out through your mouth, say hello to the audience, and, let let me ask you a question first. How's Rosanna?
[01:12:43] Unknown:
Stuffed up. She's, heading on a trip to Brazil, and she said some really cool stuff. She said, I cannot wait to get back and get this show running. Okay. I'm talking green screen, all the stuff we talked about. She's ready to go. Awesome. She's been through a lot. This car crash we went into, it it's been traumatic.
[01:13:01] Unknown:
Yeah. I I know. That that was my next question. I want to know how you're feeling, with the results of the car crash.
[01:13:07] Unknown:
I still am having problems. Well, I had a knee replacement in March. Let's just say I feel like the knee replacement is at six weeks now. Oh, wow. Yeah. I can't. What a bummer. It's it's not gonna whine about it too much, but that in my ankle. But that is the last of the the bits of the my body here, but I was probably at most of my whole body had a a part there that was, like, in, whatever you wanna call it, trauma. Mhmm. So, physically, no. I I heal fast. I bounce. So, this is my foot on my right side and my knee. I'm but I'm ready to go. The farm's looking a little shabby, but I did get out, and I paid the price for it big time. I got a bunch of stuff done, and I paid the price for it, but everything got done. And she's ready to head down to, Brazil to see her son for a week. And, I got the farm to myself and, probably overwork it because it won't be no big deal. She won't be here, but, she's got a little cold. She's going. And I gotta tell you, she she's got the cold and everything, and she still looks great. I was here as a lady.
You know how many women want want that face regular, and you're like so, That's great. But That's great. Couple disturbing disturb one of the most disturbing things I've heard this week is people at the shooting in Minnesota.
[01:14:19] Unknown:
Mhmm. Okay.
[01:14:21] Unknown:
People outside the church were heckling a vice president. And there's something there. I was listening to a pastor. I go to Calvary Chapel. So there's a lot of guys out there that have great podcasts and all the stuff like that. And he said the hecklers and the the the Jinsakis of the world have literally come to the moral bankrupt part of equal to the shooter. Mhmm. They're equal to the shooter. If you wanna go, hey. Let's go down to the the church for advances and heckle them over those kids who were shot. What is that? What is in that? It's just evil.
We were talking I was talking to my pastor this week about evil. And I know you've seen a lot of things as a as a law enforcement, and I've been up as a missionary up in the high, tundra of Alaska, and there's some evil and darkness up there. There's a lot of stuff. I wouldn't even I don't even wanna talk. I mentioned about this. When you get way away from civilization and then you drop civilization in the middle of nowheres, it seems to devour the people who are just wanna hunt whales, seals, and just live that life. And when you bring in people who are much more I won't say they're more educated if or more intelligent, maybe more educated, but man's in humanity to man and the stuff that the darkness they bring with it. And I just seen that darkness in some of the things I'm reading over this church shooting, and it's just that there was one kind of funny thing. Vance was coming wherever he was driving, somewhere in Wisconsin, and all the the the the protesters with their signs were was it a v? So, Joe, you know, traffic. Right? Yep. They're all on one side. Yeah. I'm sure he told his driver, take the other one, and she shows all these people crew all out of shape practically, trying to get to the other side.
It was great. Stumbling. I probably that's the farthest they've ran in years. So it was kinda one of the one of the things I actually, can say was a little bit of humorous, but I wrote something today. I said, no matter what prosperity we have, there's a dark element trying to go against it. I guess that as you're talking to your last guest about Trump, he could be Snow White. Everything could be perfect. That's right. Every the old old my father from a generation, you know, two chickens in a pot and a car in a garage type of thing mentality, vote for me. And if that was true, if Trump could provide two chickens in every pot every night and a car in the garage you know, all the cliches, There still would be something that people would just there'd be out there just, it's built in. It's built in. They hated Jesus no matter what he did. There's a a small collective there, maybe bigger than small, that would just hated him no matter what he did. You know, if he healed them, fed him, whatever, there's still there's a darkness in this world. And I've just seen a lot of it this week after the shooting in Minnesota. I was following a little bit and praying about it and praying for the family members. And, yeah, and the the element behind it, it's it there's there's no secret who it is and and what's behind it.
[01:17:20] Unknown:
I agree with you. I'm gonna actually, let's do this here really quick. Let me see. So this is I believe this is what you're talking about. Let me screen share this. So I hope you don't mind that I was playing around there while you were talking.
[01:17:35] Unknown:
No.
[01:17:40] Unknown:
Gotta turn the sound off. Sorry. But this was earlier today. When I was listening to it in the, earpiece, I thought I heard the heckling in the background, but I guess not. So that's our vice president and his wife dropping flowers at Annunciation Catholic Church in Minneapolis. So, so yeah. That was it. I'm sorry. I thought I had the right clip. Didn't have it. I apologize. A little some something here, Joe.
[01:18:38] Unknown:
Ten maybe fifteen years ago, you know, our church, pastor said he's gonna start a security team, and the original security leader was a local cop, local policeman. And so good choice, right, to set up everything and how to do perimeters and what have you. And, you know, some of the I not everybody in church is always conservative. Let's just go to that. Especially, I live in the blue some blue states practically. And, oh, by the way, Joe, my taxes went from 3,500 this year to 7,000 next year.
[01:19:04] Unknown:
You gotta be kidding me. Governor,
[01:19:07] Unknown:
Bob, whatever. I call him Bob tax anything Ferguson. He made 40 new 40 new taxes.
[01:19:14] Unknown:
Unbelievable.
[01:19:15] Unknown:
So that would take my first two months of my my whole payment. My whole paycheck is gone the first two months. So, there's still some lefties in our church a little bit, but at the beginning, it was like, you know, we have a security team, and all these guys, they do they're all CPLs. If you're gonna be on the team, you have to carry, carrier police, CPL. I came and think about it now. Carry pistol license. Okay. It's a license to carry a gun in the state of Washington under your coat or jacket, you know, conceal conceal. Conceal carry. Yeah. There we go. And now everyone's pretty comfortable with it now. That you see those guys in all over the perimeter of the church with their earplugs, vests, and everything from a point of when, like, so many people were like, oh, we have to thank you guys. Thank you guys. Hey. Security team. Thank you.
And that's the reality, Joe. It is. And some of these areas we've seen before, the Amish have been attacked out in the middle of nowhere. So there is a element out there that will always be after the people who worship, the the real Jesus Christ.
[01:20:19] Unknown:
Now yeah. You know, it it it goes beyond politics. Yeah. It really does. It it there there is definitely a spiritual element behind a lot of this. A lot of this is, well, first of all, the whole the whole ideology, that that led the the the shooter to, perform this just this just this despicable despicable act, that the whole ideology in itself is at fault here. You know, if if you look at if you look at all of the recent school shootings, there's old there's a one common denominator in all of these school shootings, and that is the trans ideology.
Yes. You know, it's it's it's something extremely it's it's something deep rooted spiritually. You know? And there there is there there is also the, of course, a psychological aspect to it. I mean, these these folks are pumped up with all these hormones that aren't natural to their own to their bodies, and then on top of that, they're pumping them full of SSRIs and and SNRIs and and all that stuff. It it's, you know, you look at you'll just you just you just look at that, and and you just you you you just wonder it it's it's real it's legit. It's a mental illness. It's also a spiritual illness.
Yeah.
[01:21:48] Unknown:
When you in in your law enforcement, history here, I've known a few guys and, some of the guys have gone undercover with some of the groups they've gotten infiltrated, like, oh, you know, white supremacists and, other different groups. And there's a lot of the a lot of the occult in a lot of those groups too. I mean, it just doesn't guys wanna have a cold beer and, you know, whatever. That's that's one part of the situation, but there's some some of those always in some group of these, I you can name them all. The white supremacists and, you know, some of these biker guys. I mean, they are who they are. The 1%, they call them. They're 1%.
And, they do some pretty mean, hideous stuff too. It's not because they're just mean. There's an evil to it all. And, and it says in the last days, there will be just lawlessness and just a total regard of everything that's moral and and not just good. Yeah. Yeah. It's just a regard of just anything, you know, that is decent, and that's what's starting to show more. And, I see the young man. I was doing physical therapy today, and I looked over and indicated, because I guess I'm guilty, Joe, a book by its cover. I guess I am. Maybe I'm old school. You know, Joe, told Judge a book by its cover, but he had the black hair. He had the black eyelashes and everything like that. But when he flipped his arm over, he had an I've I've studied one of my greatest courses I had was understanding, understanding the times. It was literally it was done by a lawyer or pastor in our church as a lawyer. Toughest thing I ever did, is in college wise. We went to every single religion, faith, and every going back to Babylon.
Babylon was one of the original with Nimrod, and the evil stuff that came out of Babylon is still today. A lot of the things, the sacrifices, what have you. But this kid, he he just had the the devil's shirt. I mean, he flipped his arm over, and there's a certain goat man, I call him. It's a goat man and these certain horns the way they twist. And it's just I'm looking at it going it just there's this it's it's not right. It's it's definitely old fashion. I'm not old fashioned. I'm from Detroit, man. I've I know guys that, like I said, who've been on the wrong side of the law and, you know, I know people who've been shot. I have people who've known people who've shot people. So but when I see this, there's a certain twist in the the horns the way it comes up. It's in the goat man face. And this young kid could have been eighteen nineteen. Are you talking about Baphomet? The the Baphomet image? Yes. Kind of a Baphomet look. You know, it was kind of a combination. Yeah. Okay. A Baphomet, but the the horns are even a little bit more, detailed. And he's just a young kid. He was, like, talking football.
He's talking about the this weekend's picks with the, the the trainer. I'm going, I don't know about Well, that's well, that's what's Couple of picks I'm going because he's kinda lost on those picks there, you know. Yeah. Well, I mean, but but that's Are you taking the Jets? Oh, Joe. I'm taking the Jets. Yeah. But that's but that's the whole thing. I'm getting it, Joe. I'm getting it. You're getting it. You're getting it. But the the,
[01:24:54] Unknown:
but but that's the whole thing with with I mean, there's this embracing of the demonic. There's this embracing of, of of occultism that it's and it's it's getting more and more prevalent. I mean I mean, you look you look at some of these these halftime shows at at at, football games, and what what is it? Most of it, well, at least, until recently, most of it's been basically satanic worship. Yeah. You know, you look what they do over at CERN, and, you know, when they when they have the opening ceremonies at CERN, doing ritual sacrifice it was simulating ritual sacrifice, you know, telling exactly who their allegiance is with. You know? It it's but that's but that's the way the world is going right now, bro. That that's that's just the way it that's, you know, the Bible talks very clearly that in the last days, these exact events are going to happen. And the more that they happen, the closer we know that we're getting to the return of Jesus Christ.
So so lift up your heads. Your redemption draweth nigh, the Bible says. Mhmm. So, you know, you you it's disturbing to see in in some respects, but as a believer, as somebody who believes what the book says, and as as somebody who's who's put his faith, trust, and confidence in the shed blood of Jesus Christ, you know, I'm I'm not disturbed by it. Yep. I'm anticipating the return of my savior. Alright. But it's also at the same time as well, you you are concerned because you you know, you you see the world, the condition the world is in, and they have no idea where they're run what they're rushing headlong into.
You know? They they turn that blind ear, the blind eye to the truth of the gospel. Mhmm. They think it's oppressive. They they I I the most ridiculous thing in the world I've seen lately is is all these people. You see them on TikTok and Instagram and all that stuff, you know, talking about how, they're embracing Islam because Islam is a is peaceful, and and it's it's loving, and it's respectful of Sure. Of people. Yeah. Okay. Go move to a predominantly Islamic country and find out how quickly you can hang your trans flag and your gay flag and your, your, how quickly they're gonna wrap you up in a burqa, and you you have no rights, you have no freedoms, and you think that's great? Go. Go go check it out. Go check it out.
[01:27:20] Unknown:
Right. Coming back to CERN, I've like I said, I, doing that course, it it was so detailed. I can't tell you how many chapters we've got into just literally they talked about CERN. And I got the video, and I showed it to a home group of my church. And one of the people, this looked like an art festival to me, Wayne.
[01:27:45] Unknown:
If they only knew what they were playing with.
[01:27:47] Unknown:
These guys have been in the in the church twenty, thirty, forty years. Wow. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Like I say, I had the running joke. I I got a little I got a little street wise, but it's not Sesame Street. Yeah.
[01:28:02] Unknown:
That's going, man. I love your little idioms. I do. I love your little idioms.
[01:28:06] Unknown:
I go, think about no, Joe. Think about it. Are we reading I have this I got these I love Mobi lines. My buddy, Rich, who, when you come up here, we we got I've got a team, Joe, set up for you. We got barbecue teams, whatever Joe wants. Yeah. Nice. Your your freaking keister's gonna be royalty when you get up there. Rich, Clint cleansing old army guy, and I'm trying to get ahold of the old sheriff. I'm working some things, and they already said, man, what what's he want? Brisket? He wants this. We're gonna do it all. And I made some Sunday sauce with my girl the other day Nice. Nice. From tomatoes that Rich brought up. Joe, farm fresh tomatoes. So Rich brought up for me. But, my my buddies there, like I said, they say, you know, these movie lines, but there was one I forget what it was. The guy goes, did you actually do you guys actually watch the show?
What's gonna go happening? I go to the Bible. Do you actually read this book? Mhmm. It was a home group, and it's like, look, man. It's it's it's it's one of those things where, oh, that was a things keep coming to go on. Bible knowledge, I won't say it's not worthless. I have I'm trying to put it together. Let's go with it. Bible knowledge isn't is bible knowledge is worthless without obedience. You gotta have obedience. I agree with you. You mean and the pastor who's saying he goes, you can do Zephyrh Zechariah and and highlight it and know everything. He goes big whoopity doo. But if you don't have obedience to the to the lord, you can know every verse in the in the bible. And people ask me, do I know every verse? No. But get a chapter. If you give me a chapter, go, well, that's what Paul was talking about when he was in Ephesus, the chapter. I'm a chapter guy. Mhmm. I can't do verses. I it's hard to remember every line in the Bible. But if we go chapter and I go, well, okay. This even I'm talking old testament Leviticus too. Like I said, my late wife was I was married to the old testament, born again Jew. So she she knew five languages. Yeah. That's right. And I remember that. So let's look at a chapter. So biblical, illiteracy in the church. It's it's it's pretty actually prominent now, and, of course, let's not talk about sin or the cross.
[01:30:20] Unknown:
Oh, no. That's verbal Or the blood of
[01:30:22] Unknown:
Christ. No. You're not allowed to talk about that stuff. No. Or the blood of Christ. No. Or here's the big ones you have, judgment.
[01:30:27] Unknown:
Yeah. A lot of the modern churches don't talk about those things, and and and it because because they don't wanna be offensive. They don't wanna they don't wanna offend anybody and turn anybody off. We're all loving and caring. There's a church over here. It's, I'm not gonna say the name of the church because it's Mhmm. Not worth it. Right. But, I've been to their website a few times because I know I know somebody, who, used to attend a a a solid bible believing church and is now going to that church. And, you know, I wanted to check it out and see what see what the hubbub's all about.
And, man, if you want a good Sunday afternoon at the theater, you wanna you wanna go to a good rock concert, hey. Right. Go to that church, man. They machines and everything? They put on some show, dude. They they they got the big screens everywhere. They got, they got the lights, the strobe lights, the the the multicolor lights, the the the big stage platform, all that stuff, and they call that worship.
[01:31:29] Unknown:
Right. And I I think coming on in our first half hour here, and I was, like I said, reading, going through my work I go I do my morning readings and what's happening, different sites. And the part of the spiritual part I brought in today is it's it's it's affecting so much of our society, like, from just, you know, like, political. And like I say, I got a buddy. I love him. Bless his heart. He thinks it's a political answer. Everything is. You know, if we get all so and so in a governor, it's gonna change everything. It's not. It's just not, man. It's broke.
We're we're broke. It's broke. There's there's a great mechanic coming. He's gonna fix it all, and he doesn't have a butt crack. And, you know, it's gonna be he's gonna actually he's got good wages. He's a cheap guy. You know, he's he's a Jewish fellow, so he's gonna keep the the rates down. You know? So
[01:32:30] Unknown:
Well
[01:32:31] Unknown:
You know? And he's a comedian because you know what? Most Jewish comedians in history were almost comedians in history were Jewish. So, you know, I
[01:32:40] Unknown:
it's I I always I don't I'm gonna interrupt you for a second, brother. But but, you know, he says, you know, everything has a political is a political issue. Well, here it is right here. This is Ephesians chapter six. And it says here what? For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, powers, against rulers of darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. That's what you're dealing with. And the bible go ahead. I'm sorry.
[01:33:12] Unknown:
The shooter. And, Joe, you you are the professional's professional. I look up to this guy so much from his from his career. And I'll just ask it. You got in every morning or whatever shift you were. You put your gear on. Mhmm. You put all your stuff on. You know what you're talking about. Your belts, your, you know, all your stuff. Body armor. Same. Yeah. All your stuff. Armor, chest armor, and I'm not using the right you know what I'm saying, brother. You know? Yep. Protect the body armor and everything. Yeah. This kid woke up this morning, and he put his stuff on. Mhmm.
And he probably checked his guns. He just like any law enforcement or fireman or first responder that got up in the morning. Honey, I'll see you later. Kiss you goodbye. You know, I'm on on the shift and this and this. I'll be I'll be operating the the the ladder truck today, or I'll be operating traffic control, etcetera. Mhmm. He as he was putting on it, there must have been the most darkest element at that moment of the what you just wrote there, what you just read. Yeah. I don't I wouldn't You just read there. It was so prevalent in this kid's mind circling around because there are principalities there. Yeah. I read I read something today. What's the difference between demons and fallen angels? That's been my thing here the past couple days on what the separation is. Fallen angels are the angels that fell with Satan.
The demons and I'm trying to work on that one. They're, I think I understand. Out of the Nephilim and or there there's something different because Jesus would cast demons out, but the fallen angels had more of a physical element to them.
[01:34:52] Unknown:
So I'm I'm Well, I never I never really considered that. I never never thought about that in such great detail. I I I look at, you know, the the demons, like like, we're always talking about aliens and, you know, come to visit us and all that stuff. Well, that that's I think those are I think they're interdimensional beings. Oh, absolutely. Yeah. Absolutely. And I I think that what people think are or are going to be aliens are really, the demonic. Yeah. Now whether they're fallen angels or or demons, whether there's a difference between the two, I don't think there is. I don't I don't think the scripture actually clarify speaks that that that clearly. And and, you know, one of the rules is, you know, when you're when you talk about the where the Bible does not articulate, we dare not speculate.
Absolutely. So, you know, I I I I strictly speaking, I think they're one and the same. I think that they have I I I just think that they were they had They're both bad. Yeah. They're both but they have the same I just think they have the they have the ability to make drive job description, mess things up. Yes. You know? No. But you mess things up. But I think that that they have the ability to appear spiritually and physically. Yeah. You know? They they do have a physical appearance, but they're they're they're just spiritual beings.
[01:36:08] Unknown:
And, you know, the Bible talk talks very clearly how Satan himself can appear as an angel of light. Right. You know? So I think that this is very similar to that. I think they're one and the same really, but that's an interesting study. That's something we should we should definitely And pow out for it. I wanna actually when my when my my suite is going, I'm gonna it's I I like to even add more time to it because her time in my 10 is freshest. So I have I have more study time, and I wanna get into and why I think I started with the show with this, that really hit me today. This the the heckling of the president and look. Who it doesn't matter which political mouthpiece or NBC person or whatever. They're gonna they're paid.
They're paid by whoever. And so they're sold out anyhow. And so but to sell out so bad that you will have to, chastise another political party because they're taking flowers Mhmm. To a site. Or so it kinda affected me today, so I'm looking into it. I'm a do my research. I'm pretty good at my research here. And, hey. I just graduated from college at 64 years old. I feel so good about it. But now I know research now and an analytical private. Was it analytical arguments and discussion. So but for real, Joe, right the last twenty four of the thirty six hours just thinking of what I was reading from the political side and the social side and all the other sides of there's a side to this.
There's actually two sides. There is. Well well, that you know, those kid you know, he he the transgender kids or what man, young kids were gunned down. It's just one of those things. I just like I said. And as seeing demons or whatever, I've been on the mission field, and I've been in some dark places. The darkest place, both me and my late wife and my my new bride here is the Western Tundra of Alaska. And up there, it's it's dark already. It's like, and and they get only so much light per year. But when it gets dark, it's like three or four hours of light to almost no light at all. But the darkness there of you have an indigenous tribes, and it's one of those things, leave them alone. Let them hunt their whales and their moose and everything. But, no, we're gonna go up there and put churches up there, and we're gonna we're gonna abuse them. And we're we're gonna do man's humanity to man. And and I was when I was up there in this past March, two young home with their Eskimo young boys. You're gonna love this, Joe. You're law enforcement.
They were ticketed. We're shooting a moose out of a different unit.
[01:38:47] Unknown:
I don't know, bro.
[01:38:49] Unknown:
It's a tundra. Okay. Units are and I'm up here. I hunt. Like I said, Elkhart starts this week, and I'm in Unit 663, Joe. Okay? It's in the mountains. Over here, 665. I understand those points here. You're talking to tundra. And these poor kids are like, okay. We don't know what the unit is and there how many generations they have had there. Thousand years. Yeah. I mean, even Christianity wise, if six you do the biblical scale of six thousand years, it's not two a thousand years is pretty safe to say to people been up there. And so it's it's it's a lot of alcoholism and the I I'm gonna have to say it, but the sexual abuse rate of 12 year olds is eighty percent. Wow.
[01:39:33] Unknown:
Yeah. Really? Yep.
[01:39:38] Unknown:
Amazing. You get well, you get these villages of four or 500, and then white folks come in and what have you. So there's no chance for education if there is. And the the the the I'll call I guess, the white teachers or the educated of from the 48 that come up, they burn out fast. They're gonna go up there and make a change, and we was up there. The the the they're ending the school. And March is and about they end about April because of the weather May. And the teacher that was in the building were at, she was, I'm done. I'm done. It's been three years. I can't do it. Yeah.
So just all of this in general of listening to what was the the rhetoric on the other side of going, did anyone understand these young boys and girls are killed, gunned down. And so coming to America Yeah. You know? Very much. And we we think of the other countries of like you just said about the the homosexuals. I have a homosexual uncle in Seattle. And, you know, they they they do oh, they they have that thing in, with, in San Francisco on on Easter. They get to mock the Lord and everything. I said, you know something? If you go do that to Mohammed on over in anywhere's Iran. Iran's one of the worst, and I sent him a video on Friday where they throw the homosexuals off the building. Mhmm. It's like Friday toss.
I says, thank goodness we live in a country that we tolerate this. We tolerate what our public is that I don't have to believe your sexual preferences, etcetera, etcetera, but I have to respect them. Right. I I can Respect them means I can live right next door to your man. You can barbecue whatever. And where someone just got sued for a vegan neighbor sued the barbecue person. I don't know where it was this week. I think I heard something about that. Yeah. I I think I did hear something. The next door neighbor for barbecue and steaks or whatever. But I said, you know what? You I I I give you that right, and you have the right. But, you know, you think in these other countries, think about this. But, not all of us are are like I said, it's one of those things.
I told my uncle, I don't care that you're gay, and I don't care that you're gay. There's a meaning for to explain it that way. I don't care, but I don't care. And so, that was my thing today. I was just going over the with JD and, you know, he's he's done a good job too. He's he's he's done a good job and him and his wife are an interfaith. Yes. She is she I'm not sure. Is it is she Buddhist or is she Hindu? I think she's I don't know. I think she's Hindu. Okay. And they seem they get along. And so they did they do a good job, and, I like him. I like what he's done. You know what?
[01:42:19] Unknown:
After 28, I'm I'm definitely I'm gonna support him if he's coming out. Absolutely. You know? Absolutely. So I'm a It's gonna be a Vance Rubio ticket, I think. Hey, Joe. I'm a three time Trump voter. Yeah. Same here. Same here. Yeah. You know, I think I think it's gonna be a Vance Rubio ticket, to be honest with you. Yeah. Probably. Yeah. Because I I think Marco I think Marco Rubio is doing a fantastic job as a secretary of state. He is. He is. Absolutely fantastic.
[01:42:44] Unknown:
My, buddy on the on the, the food side. I'm I'm really involved with the food here because I work for the food banks. Mhmm. And what's going on in the the food banks are finding that's getting the the supplies are down. And this is happening, some of the surplus and whatever. But, like, it's the price of the price of food. You know? It's it's going up. And, like I said, I'm I'm talking with my cattle rancher buddy. He's he's butchering cattle. And he said, he's got a he's got a big bull. So when you get up here, like I said, we're we're gonna treat Joe really good, man. I'm telling you. Well, we'll we'll we'll definitely have to do a a remote show so so we could we could show cooler with with dry ice we're taking as long as the dogs don't get into it. There you go. But, no. We're gonna we're gonna set up a remote show, but,
[01:43:31] Unknown:
my cattle rancher man is Speaking of dogs, I don't know if you hear Charlie barking in the background. He's letting me know he's hungry. It's time for dinner. I hear him.
[01:43:38] Unknown:
This the, the what I talk about doesn't seem like big stuff in the big realm of things, but agriculture, food, food supplies, the supply chain, that's kind of my political thing because I do I have a farm. It's not a big one. I bought just under a 100 chickens, which which is it's fine. But the the people I know that I know I know like I said, they're they may have 200, 400, 600 cattle. And we we take a look and say, what's going on with fertilizer? I know you you know, like I said, fertilizer hit they have enough of that in Washington, DC, but they still needed to to to feed the grasses, to feed our cows. I know a lot of people that would say they're full of fertilizer. Yeah. Exactly. But, Joe, think about it. Water rights. And what's happening in Oregon and Washington, this is becoming a a political freaking wasteland. Like I said, my taxes.
Like I said, they they because I got married to this, but the governor there was a law that it could not go up 11%. Oh, the governor mandated now it can go up to 3%. Wonderful. That's a lot for guys like, you know, less rich guys that are retired. You know, how much we make. But, there's something here. Me and my wife, she she got her new car from the this is a disaster. All that like I said, her getting the legal stuff done, we went and got her a car from the the replacement, you know, the insurance replacement. And we were, sitting there, and we went and celebrated with a a a Taco Bell or whatever it was. And she seen a car coming in the parking lot. Oh, yeah, guys. Fender's all smashed up. Why does he get it taken care of? I go, honey.
Before me, she used to make good money. I'm talking, you know, her late late her ex husband was a Microsoft guy. Okay. So they know what I go, honey, $50,000 nowadays is like middle low class money. I mean, 50,000. Not everybody can just and she I said, you you've drank from the silver cup, which I've never done, you know, 25 g a month working for Microsoft. And she looked at me and she said, you're right. Mhmm. You're right. You know? She goes, people are struggling. I said, they really are. She works at Costco. And she sees those people with the $600 baskets. And the the woman with the huge diamond rings, that's that's that's good, but not everybody's there. Yeah. And there's more and more that aren't. It's it's no longer the middle class. It's the working class. And, Joe, drum roll. I got another good one.
I want it as of this day, I want it changed from the deep state to the dark state. That makes sense. I told my buddy my buddy goes, hell's bells. Let's get a t shirt. Mhmm. It's the dark state. Oh, for sure it is. The deep deep is deep, deep, you know, water, deep swamp. It's now dark. It's a dark state, and the darkness of it is, like I said, the other one is there are just people out there. They are not happy if you're happy. It's just true. And another one I threw out this week in front of a whole group of people, I go, I've got the I've got the solution to life. They said, what is it? I go, live well enough alone and don't manufacture your own problems.
[01:46:47] Unknown:
It's a good start. Sage advice from from Wayne.
[01:46:50] Unknown:
Yeah. Well, you know, Joe I have Wayne's wisdom.
[01:46:54] Unknown:
My my my
[01:46:55] Unknown:
trust tell me if it's wrong. Apip apipathy or whatever the words. And that one point two nanoseconds before I hit that car Mhmm. At 50 miles an hour because the the lady just pulled out. Like, I'm just let me run my running joke was it's a state free State Highway 2. It's a T. I said, you can look left and see a squirrel crap a half a mile away in the middle. I don't know what she wasn't seeing. She goes, I've never seen you. 35 yards in front of us. But half nanosecond. All I could all I could think of is thank you, Jesus.
I will face a judgment, but he's already took the judgment part. It it was but it was my wife next to me, and I turned the car completely opposite. I took the whole blunt of the whole bro. I said, yes, everyone. Rosanna has chipped a toenail. Crazy. Jesus. She's gonna have to go to the toenail therapy place and get her pedigram or pedig what do they say? What do you call this thing? A pedigure.
[01:48:00] Unknown:
She's good. Joe, we have to do a pedicure. No. I'm not doing a pedicure. She does. No. I mean, she. Okay. Yes. Me. I mean, if you wanna do a pedicure, go ahead. I'm I'm good. I'm I'm fine. Actually actually, I did about a month ago
[01:48:13] Unknown:
because I had I my like I said, I couldn't bend down, and she just said, your feet are because of what's going on with my blood flow right now, my feet and everything. But, literally, I got I was a trash, trash tummy.
[01:48:30] Unknown:
But thank God you're okay, though. Thank God you're alive, and thank God, you know, that you could sit here and joke about it, though, brother. That's still joking right there. A lot of other people might, you know, get No. I'm just joking to the cop too. Like, like, oh, like I said, you could see a squirrel down a half a mile. What was she not looking at? He goes, I know. I know. But he goes, okay. Let's go. Nice. Alright, brother. Listen, we we gotta I gotta I gotta start doing the, the closing announcements and stuff like that. So, and, I know you gotta get back to, to take care of Rosanna. So, brother, thank you for for jumping on tonight.
Let us know where we could find you, any, information you wanna pass out, when we're gonna be able to find your show, when you're gonna be ready.
[01:49:10] Unknown:
Yes. When she gets back, we're we're building the studio. We're in fact, my friend Bill from Israel is coming in about two weeks. He wants to come over and do a podcast with me. Mhmm. So we can set up the Israel to America podcast. We're gonna get the logistics done. Like I said, I was doing great a month ago. I I'm a month behind of everything. I'm looking at my garden. I'm looking at everything. But my my my my my input tonight was just the the lack of humanity over this shooting. And I guess it just took me a little it took me it kicked me in the old groin a little bit today. But now, JD, this seems like a true guy.
Groots of just, like, Appalachian in in in this for you when you read his background stuff, he's just you know, he he's not going up there for a press to op. He probably truly in his heart and his wife, who's just seems to she's pretty genuine herself. Yeah. You know, going, honey, let's go let's go pay our definite respects, talking to families. And so I guess it got my mustard today when I heard started reading this stuff and hearing these things. So that's what my whole thing today was. Lord, you know, when did when Jesus said, you know, forgive them for they know not what they do, but he won't forgive this. He will not forgive this. Scripture says so. So back the scripture up with that, you know, because he said suffer the little children. When he said the children, you know, to to you do you do not keep them coming from me, which means from abortion to everything else. And so anyone that hurts a child, it's a number one in his list. But, Joe, have a wonderful week You too, my brother. Show. And, oh, I'm I got on to ezrahealing.com.
I'm looking into their stuff. And I got a couple things for the missus there that she wants to check out, and, I got a few things I'm gonna be looking at there. So, definitely, it's one of your supporters. And did you know
[01:50:57] Unknown:
Did you know we have another we have another partner?
[01:51:00] Unknown:
Oh.
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[01:51:37] Unknown:
Well, I've been through cancer, and my late wife went through cancer, and I did use CBD with her. And, again, it did help some something. Before you go Yes, sir. Three Scotchmen rode the Pacific Ocean 9,000 miles. Three Scotchmen. I'm related to them. Of course you are. For real. The McLeans, the Rankins are part of the McLean clan. The three these hard bellied guys. These rock solid guys. You know what you remind me of? 9,000 miles. You know what you remind me of? You remind me of Alex Jones. Alex Jones seems to be related to everybody everywhere. Some brother Lowell there. Linked to his history somewhere, but, I mean, that's just But Rankin is like Smith over there. I mean, like I said, Mike Myers on Saturday Night Live, but Stewart Rankin, the guy on Saturday Night Live. But the Rankins are a direct lineage to the McLean's, the three McLean brothers, 9,000 miles road. Nice. I like it. That's good. That's man. Blessings to you.
[01:52:33] Unknown:
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