In this engaging episode of the Joe Rooz Show, we dive into a thought-provoking conversation with our guest, Orlando Owen. Known for his work in emotional liberation and masculine transformation, Orlando shares insights into reclaiming personal sovereignty in a world filled with cultural and political challenges. We explore the intersections of politics, culture, and metaphysics, and discuss the importance of maintaining personal boundaries and autonomy in relationships and society.
Additionally, we delve into the intriguing realm of paranormal experiences and the concept of spiritual castration, examining how these elements impact personal growth and self-awareness. Orlando's unique perspective on emotional freedom and the power of self-discovery offers listeners a chance to reflect on their own lives and the societal structures that influence them. Join us for a captivating discussion that challenges conventional thinking and encourages personal empowerment.
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(00:01:16) Introduction and Show Overview
(00:01:55) Guest Introduction: Orlando Owen
(00:10:40) Interview with Orlando Owen: Masculinity and Culture
(00:34:18) Discussion on European Politics and Migration
(00:56:36) US Politics and Sovereignty
(01:26:36) Personal Stories and Emotional Liberation
(01:54:36) Paranormal Experiences and Beliefs
(02:09:46) Conclusion and Farewell
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- Rosanna Rankin
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Alright. Well, let's see. Normally, at this point, what we do is we would, we would kiss off to the folks watching on YouTube, Twitch, and x, and then we would just kinda go our way with with the regular show. And the reason why we do that is because, you know, we've already gotten strikes, you know, for some of the content that we've talked about. And, so, you know, we're trying to steer everybody here to Rumble, which is a totally free free speech platform and one that you would really, really love. So you can go to your app store, download the app. It's free. Sign up. It's free. If you want the ad free experience, sign up for Rumble Premium. You can get it for as low as $10 a month. And, that's the way we do it. Alright? So but considering that we are gonna have a guest here in our first hour of the show, we are gonna leave the stream running. And then, when we, when we conclude with, with Orlando Owen, we will, cut the streams and continue on with the show and do our news coverage.
Alright. Well, with all of that said, let's bring in our guest, Orlando Owen. Just waiting for him to connect right there. Now for those of you who might not know, Orlando Owen has, has basically been, been a rebel, a mystic, a master of masculine, mass master of masculine transformation. And for over thirty five years, Orlando Owen has been guiding men through the minefields of modern life, ex exposing the illusions of culture, confronting the lies of politics, and awakening men to a deeper metaphysical truth. Now tonight, this is not gonna be about conspiracy theories. This is not, any kind of spiritual fluff.
This is all about reclaiming your sovereignty, your instincts, and your inner compass in a world that's lost its way. So I hope you guys are ready. I'm looking forward to this. I've checked out some of his YouTube videos. Unfortunately, they are in in German, so I don't understand German. But, I get the message, and I'm looking forward to him, flipping on that camera and, turning on that mic and joining us here on the show. I see him down there. There he is. Come on in, my friend. Orlando, how you doing? Okay. We can't hear you. Gotta turn your mic on.
K. There you go. Test test one two. Got yes? Gotcha. Gotcha now. Alright. Okay. Excellent. Well, Belinda, I gotta tell you, I I checked out some of your YouTube videos, and, unfortunately, I don't speak German.
[00:12:30] Unknown:
So Yeah. That's that's an older channel, and, we have a lot we have some in English, but not as many, and the channel's smaller. So, unfortunately, we haven't fully repatriated the business into, you know, The US Of A. And, for the last eighteen years, I've been working a lot with German people, but, it was because my parents I'm I'm sort of, like, bilingual. I I grew up on both sides of the drink, and I was kinda like similar to an army brat. I was more like an intelligence brat. Okay. So my I had to follow my dad wherever. A lot of it was Rhein Main Air Base, Wiesbad, and those things. And and my parents, when I was 12, they made a grave mistake, in my opinion, and moved permanently to Germany, and that was like the worst decade of my life. But I learned how to speak it. And it was funny, I was invited, this is about eighteen years ago. I was invited, relatively well known American masculinity coach.
Was invited to speak in front of 800 people in Munich and he said, I don't wanna fly, I wanna do it. You wanna fill that slot? You just happen to be there? I said, Yeah, I'm here basically burning my parents. So not funny, but, no, not fun. But there was, it was my first public speaking ever. Wow. And those 800 people, and they said, These are all pickup artists. Expect a hostile audience. And I said, okay, I'm the anti pickup artist. Let's take it from there. And they were like, they were fine with that. So that's how it got started and that's why you see a lot more YouTube videos. We have like 600 YouTube videos in Germany, but it's really an American business. I'm an American. I hold northern passports. I hold other loyalties.
It's, it's just what it is. But if you pick up a little bit of a German accent, I do the same thing in German. I have a little American accent, so it's kind of like both ways. And, That's good.
[00:14:22] Unknown:
Anyway, it's really great to be be here with you. And I appreciate it. I really do appreciate it. Like the kindred spirits. I think so. I think so. I think we have a lot of things that we can talk about for probably, both on the show and off the show. We could probably get along some get some really good talk going on. Oh, absolutely. Yeah. I have a feeling. Yeah. But, so, just just I'm gonna spill my coffee there. But for Yeah. I'll do that. For for, just just just for reference, I, like, I I I understand where you're coming from as far as your first speaking engagement being something to a large audience. My first real public speaking, was to a group of 400 lumberjacks.
[00:14:59] Unknown:
There you go. And that's more scary because those are actually real men. Yeah. Exactly. He's a lumberjack, and he's alright. But
[00:15:05] Unknown:
Exactly. And, the the the the real funny thing was is the, the host, he, before he went out onto the stage, he he said he he leans over. He whispers to me. He goes he goes, you don't wear you don't wear lace on your underwear, do you?
[00:15:23] Unknown:
I was like, yeah. That's that remember Monty Python? He's a lumberjack, and he's alright. And, Exactly. Exactly. That's Yeah. You don't you don't squat when you pay. Right? Right. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. So one of those super masculine things like all, all red and black, plaid jackets. And I played, plaid flannel
[00:15:44] Unknown:
flannel shirts. Yep. Yep. Well, the They're only a bit intimidating because those are real men. They are. And And then you know what? I was terrified. I got up there. I just looked out at over this place and just these stone faces. You know? Yes. And, I mean, these guys had hands that that, you know, just one of their hands as big as as big as my face. So I know. They have arms like other people have legs. I know. It's just unbelievable. It's crazy. But yeah. But for for listeners who who who really don't know about your work and what you do, how how would you describe how you came to becoming, a masculinity coach, getting into the politics culture, and and especially the metaphysics? That's that's really fascinating. Yeah.
[00:16:26] Unknown:
Well, first of all, I've worked a lot with women. And, in the eighties and nineties, I worked with a lot of women, did a lot of sexual sexual therapy with them and, unlicensed, but it was legit, completely legit. And I learned so much about working with hundreds of women that eventually guys came up to me and said, hey, you you do all that stuff. You sort of like the P...doctor, teach me. And I'm like, teach you what? And I don't work with guys that way. I'm sorry. I love you brother, but not that way. Yeah. He said, No, no. What you learn with women? I mean, what can we learn? You know this stuff. And I'm like, I don't know that stuff, but okay, what's your question? And so that's how it started. And, you know, if I look at I'm trying to write a book and I was like, one of the things in the forward would be, if I see guys give up or give away their power, making an ass out of themselves. I hope that's I don't know what kind of language limitations we have here. Ass, I guess, I'm gonna say ass. Go for it. Making a fool of themselves, being being kinda cringe worthy weak. And I said, look, every time I see a guy just being a a wuss bag with women and and just kinda totally like, oh, anything you want, honey. I'm like, I go, you know, it's like, I go cringe.
And that cringe is so I feel I'm so ashamed for you to do that. That reflects an odd man. And then all then women might think that I'm like that. So, I mean, that's it's not really rational what I'm showing here, but it's something how it feels. I understand where you're coming from with that. Just any brother that can spare that kind of humiliation, and by extension, Mormon, that's a good thing. So I'm looking at it and it's like, I just can't watch these people do this. I mean, somebody please stop them, kill them, anything. Now he's just, wait the F up, please.
And and snap out of your p dot dot dot trans. I don't know if you can say the p word or You can say whatever you wanna say. We're on rock. Oh, really? Okay. Yeah. I'm trying to keep it family friendly, but it's only to a point. I'm I'm sorry. I'm a little more outspoken, but I'm sure you are too sort of Be as outspoken as you want. So, I mean, it's like I see them in the pussy and you're in the pussy trance. Well, I may be pussy one, but at least I have a pussy we whip by. And I'm You know, you're really an embarrassment to man manhood to mankind. And let me help you out with that because I used to actually do some of that too. Not as bad as you, but bad enough to not wanna do it. And so that's where this came from. And then I'm looking at, you know, I call this PCM, politics, culture, metaphysics.
It's been, you know, I guess, a trope or whatever. Politics is down downstream from culture and metaphysics to me involves, yes, religion and such, but it also goes into metaphysics such as magic or hermeticism or, you know, the more more, esoteric aspects, I guess, of that. And I'm looking at, there is a connection between the three. And they all spill, they all inform each other, they all kinda like spill over into each other. You really can't look at politics as an isolated phenomenon if you don't look also at the culture. And I mean, okay, I hate Nazis, but I'm that's I'm a grandma Nazi. I really like this. I love the English language, and I love it to be spoken properly, eruditely, eloquently.
So when somebody kinda like, yo, where you at? I'm like, okay. And I'm I'm I'm I'm really like, punctuation, grammar, you know, these things. And, it's why do you care? I said, I care about it because it's the glue that binds together. If you let's see you identify identify as self identified as an American, murdered with an M. We still share common language and who gave you the right to butcher that beautiful
[00:20:16] Unknown:
English language? That's right. I agree with you. And
[00:20:18] Unknown:
and we're spoken as the most it's by far the most spoken language on earth. And, you know, treat it it's it's if you if you treat your language from your diction, your pronunciation to everything, the choice of your words, coexistence. I hate that, aren't you, you know, kind of text speaks. Yeah, the test is shorthand. Girls do this all the time. And I'm like, Jesus Christ, can't you speak proper English? And then they say, oh, I can't. And then they said, AI does wonders. I know you so what you just told me is you know how to use chat chat CBT, but at the rest, the point is, if you it's language is I mean, if you look at good good poetry, good literature, good art, anything of value, with an intrinsic value that actually shines, that's not just, you know, Jackson Pollock throwing paint against the cameras over there. Nothing against Jackson Pollock, but, the thing is, we need to take back the culture, we need to take back our language and treat it with a certain amount of respect. You wouldn't take your, you know, you're actually not supposed to take the flag and kind of wrap, you know, make a bathing suit out of it. Exactly. You know, when the flag touches the ground, it's desecrated, you know. That's right. And so if you do the same thing to your language, it's a beautiful language, whether it's an English accent, Irish broker, Scottish accent, or New Zealand, or any of that stuff. American is what we speak, but American.
So that's culture. Own your culture. And, like, you have someone like, what what's his name? Macron Macron, who just got beaten by his wife. You saw that right there. This is funny. Yeah. It didn't really happen. It was just playful. Now he got beaten. The biggest gym in France now uses it. Did you get beat by your wife? You might wanna join a gym. So if he says, there is no such thing as a French culture. I'm like, really? Have you looked at, the Louvre? Have you looked at Notre Dame? Have you looked at, you know, French culture of two thousand years or whether it's Italian or whether it's German, English, Spanish, English, right? Of course. Yeah. European culture is is it's European culture. And I mean, okay, America, we we don't have that much culture because we're only 250 years old, but actually it goes back much farther. But the thing is, if you this is all the glue that keeps everything together. If you treat it with disrespect, you're really disrespecting yourself, you're disrespecting the flag, you're disrespecting the country, the culture we live in. And so politics is kinda like a result of that. Of course, you get woke culture if there's cultural Marxists about, of course. If everybody says, well, religion is really, you know, BS and whatever and atheism, all that kind of stuff, you're treating two thousand years of where do you think all that culture comes from?
In Michelangelo painting the Sistine Chapel, you know, where do you think that comes from? These are artists that really learned the craft and and that culture. Or look at, you know, whether it's Bach or Moser or Beethoven or Dostoevsky, these are all great, okay, that's the writer, but it's all, you know, really accomplished work of culture, of art, of literature, of deep thinking, of philosophy, of religion, whatever it is, it's all is connected. If you if you take these things apart and you replace it with cultural Marxism, or if you ever look at London, you know, this chart and all these almost diabolical looking buildings, I'm like, whatever happened to that? London used to be my favorite city in Europe. And now it's like, you can't even see the St. Paul's Cathedral because it's dwarfed by five times taller buildings.
You need to own your culture and you need to really respect what your forebears, your forefathers have built. I mean, look at the 3%. When when the British, you know, seventeen seventy six, three 80 one, when they came, there's only 3% that actually picked up arms and actually fought. The rest just didn't care or immigrated to Canada, which is probably why Canada is so liberal. The loyalists went there. So the point is you losing all that stuff that makes us great, that the glue that holds everything together that what we're swimming in, like a fish swims in water. Like if you could tell a fish, hey, you're wet in the fish. What are you talking about? There's nothing else.
You're swimming in that medium. We're all swimming in this culture. We're swimming in politics. We're swimming in metaphysics. Right. Everything we do is is either religiously inspired or some some such thing, treated with respect, and that gives you power if you take responsibility for your culture. Any kind of responsibility will is basically a form of taking your power back. Correct. And you should take that power back. And then, you know, women like a man that's maybe even a little bit older, a little bit well traveled, well read, all that. I mean, yes, some some b hs don't care, but some women, even like the the slightly better ones, actually respond to that. Oh my god. You know so much. Oh, you've traveled all that. Nah. I'm just another cat walking for life. But just, Oh no, I've never met anyone. I'm like, you know, you're sitting in the bar, Willow, but if I'm, if I'm exemplifying that kind of culture, then, good night, Irene. But,
[00:25:24] Unknown:
that's kind of how I look at this whole thing. Well, if I could just pivot back to the cultural aspect that you're just talking about. Okay. And talking about Europe and talking about the culture of Europe and and how Right. You know, now Europe is is not what it used to be, obviously. I mean, this this migrate this migration that has been taking place ever since the European Union took up took, you know, came into, into power, I mean, has totally decimated European culture.
[00:25:50] Unknown:
And Completely.
[00:25:51] Unknown:
And, I mean, and and your experiences living in Europe. Yeah. You you've seen it firsthand.
[00:26:00] Unknown:
Not a pretty picture. I've seen it firsthand. I've seen it in Germany. I've seen it in Italy. I've seen it when I when I went to London the first time I went to London, I was 10. I saw it, like, ten years ago, and I was shocked. And as people say, Oh, it was still that was the golden age of London.
[00:26:15] Unknown:
I don't think that was the golden age of London.
[00:26:18] Unknown:
No, but I mean, it's the mass migration and why it's threatened us too, we probably have, you know, thirty, forty, 50, 60 million illegals on this country at this point. I don't know. But that's sort of it's not doing as much damage on the cultural level. It's doing damage, but maybe not on the cultural level. But in Europe, it completely does. These are people that come for the benefits, for the free healthcare, all that stuff, for free lunch, really, basically. And then when they realize, oh, well, actually the weather's bad, the people are not that friendly, it's, I didn't sign up for this, that's when they turn hostile and actually turned on each other and turned on the German population. The German population is some of the weakest, cringeworthy MS that you'll ever meet. I mean, it's kind of ironic. Talk about self loathing. I mean, it's cringe.
And you see, you see, like, like, for instance, why is Germany going down with a Nord Stream pipeline, right? There was Biden and, then this German so what? And I said, well, if if they do, if Russia attacks them, we'll end the pipeline. And then they ask, trust me, it will happen, Biden. And then you see the little olive shorts, the chancellor. And how do you feel about it? Oh, it's okay. We do everything together, yeah? Yeah, yeah, we do everything together. Whatever's a big process in The US, we do this too, yeah? And now they're trying to sanction the pipeline. I mean, it's almost like every European government at this point, particularly the big three, France, Germany, and England, Hashdurma, as I call them, you know, because Nazi calls are kinda dumb.
If you look at those, I mean, they're acting as if they were agents of a foreign power with one mission, search and destroy and sabotage the country and bring it to its knees. That's true for Germany, France and England, And probably to a lesser extent to the other countries. That whole EU, and I don't wanna get too far out in the weeds here, but do your research, not you, but if you're interested, and try to see, and it's well covered and well hidden in the Internet, but it dates, let me just put it this way, it dates back to a certain political system that happened in the 1930s and 40s in Germany.
I'll leave it at that. And Martin Bormann was one of the founders of the EU. That's when they figured, well, today we own Germany, tomorrow the world. I don't know how that didn't work out so well. Okay. Let's let's put a a sort of step in there. Like, today we own Germany, tomorrow we own Europe, and then we'll take the world over. And, and that's what it's a complete fascist system that I've never seen the likes of. And yes, you get all the wokeism and George Soros and all that kind of wonderful stuff that it's it's horrible. They they even in Germany, that new chancellor Mertz, he even put in the constitution with some kind of trick. Like we do it when we vote at 03:00 in the morning in the senate. Yeah. Right. And they would have on a page, you know, thing. They everything has to know it's it's it's not a constitutional issue in Germany, that climate change and everything.
So the minute you even mention anything against that, you already like in violation of and that's lost to land you in prison for a long time. Same in Britain and same in France. So, okay, I'm trying to think where I'm going with this. That that country has been completely destroyed, and people question and these Germans are are so weak and then to a lesser extent the other Europeans, but the Germans in particular, it's almost like institutionalized weaponized Stockholm Syndrome. Well, that's if the government says this is so, and we do this, yeah, yeah. And I'm like, grow a pair, please. I mean, well, you know, it's like Lenin, was Lenin, I think, said, if the Germans wanna wanna storm a platform, a train platform, they first buy a ticket. You know, they get permission from the government to to to stage a revolution.
They heard that as well. Well within their boundaries. That's right. And this is just something where I'm like, look, Europeans are so I mean, Americans, if you do if you pull that same crap in America, people, you know, we have a lot of guns. And, you know, Jefferson said those guns aren't just there for hunting. That's right. And not even just there for self defense. They're actually there because if the government gets out of control, well, I'm not gonna don't wanna get you into trouble here. Well, no, you're not. It's the the the second amendment was there for a reason. That's that's to keep the tyranny of government in check. Yes, to keep the terrance and to protect the first. And in Europe, you don't have freedom of speech, you have freedom of opinion. That means
[00:30:48] Unknown:
you're allowed to think those thoughts. Not for much longer though. Don't ever speak them. Right? Right. Yeah. But Fine distinction, but all important. Yeah. But the way that And these people yeah. I'm so I'm sorry. Sorry to interrupt you. But the but the way things are going right now in Europe, I mean, even even thinking, you you know, the thought police are are enforced. Police. Enforce. Enforce. Exactly. And and, I was I was speaking to another gentleman, a few days ago. We were talking about wrongthink. You know? If you Wrongthink. There you go. Yep. If you think if you George Orwell. Yeah. Exactly. 1994. I mean, you think you think the wrong thing, and they're gonna come knocking on your door.
[00:31:23] Unknown:
Oh, they they toss your house. They come they come at six in the morning at what they did to Roger Stone and what they did to Scott Ritter. They come to your house at six in the morning. The it's the only thing missing is that they have a UH-sixty hovering above your above your house, and then, you know, the marines are, like, rappelling off that. Right? Or the the the SWAT team, whatever. I saw something on,
[00:31:42] Unknown:
I saw something on social media the other day. A guy in in London who was, trying he was traveling abroad. He was he he was here in The States, for for a little while, and he he when he got back home, he had a notice in the mail from, the government saying that he's under investigation, because he hasn't you ready for this? He hasn't purchased his television watching license. Watching license? Yes. They need a This was in Britain? Yes. They need a license now to watch TV. Do you believe that?
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Okay. I didn't know about that. What I do know about Britain with the BBC, which is state TV or state propaganda TV. It's like the old, was it, Pravda and Tassen and The Soviet Union and NPR here. Here. In Germany, you pay, I think it's something like €25 a month. Even if you don't even own a TV, you have to pay that. When I had a little house in Germany, and a friend of mine, this this guy came by and he said, well, I'm here to to collect this money. And I was like, as if. I don't pay that. I don't have I don't have a computer. You don't have a computer? He said, no, I don't have a computer, which of course, yeah, I have a computer. But, and this friend of mine had given me this, it's a pepper mill made from wood. It looks like a baseball bat.
But it's really a pepper mill. It wasn't an actual baseball bat. I said, let's take this conversation, you know, to another level. If you ever come back, I will kill you. I will beat you over the head with this thing. I will kill your family. I will kill your dog. I will kill your cat and everything you love. Now, what were you here for again? And the guy was like, he ran, he freaking ran, I swear to God this happened. I mean, in Germany, in America, it would have been a different story. There would have been five big chairs and that would have been on the floor with Jack Boot. I'm a negative guy. But in Germany, this guy just ran, he never showed up again. But anyone else that's thrown in prison for this. I know people who have told stop paying this stuff. You're paying $25 a month for your own indoctrination.
What's wrong with this picture? Only in Germany, only in America sorry. Only in, in Britain, where with The UK. But these people just will not stand up. No. They just won't. They just, oh, well, you know, nothing we can do. And so this is this empowerment, then you get into the cultural thing, you get into emotional liberation. It's all connected.
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But these people just don't don't grow a spine, don't grow walls. I don't know what is wrong with them. And then you think that the the the the modern left here in the in in America wants to bring that here, and they they want that and that's and I think, you know Oh, they love that. We kinda got a reprieve, I think, because with, with with the reelection of Donald Trump. I don't know if you if you saw, yesterday, it it was, it it came out that, basically, there was a a a politburo that was running the country and using the auto pen to sign everything. The GRC. Yeah. I was wondering about that. So you I didn't really follow that, how that auto pen happened, and apparently it was already a thing out of Truman. But it must be a different type of tech, but The auto tech has been around for a while. Yeah. It's been around for a while. It's used by it was used by it's used by many presidents to sign it's legal to use as long as as long as as the, the party involved is aware of it. And apparently, Joe Biden, didn't even know
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most of the orders that were being exchanged. Implying that he has some kind of form of dementia or something? I mean, that's a conspiracy. Come on. I'm not That's Russian propaganda. I'm not well, no. Not anymore now because now they're all coming out and saying it. Now now it's okay. Right. It's okay. It's okay. Now it was okay. Yeah. Yeah. Just like
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just like when COVID came around, you couldn't talk about the COVID shot, you know, the Absolutely not. Clot shot and all that stuff, and you got Right. Banned and kicked off of social media everywhere and all that stuff. But now it's okay. Now you can talk about it and you won't get in trouble, you know, yet. Yet. Until the next I'm not sure exactly where we stand with some of that if you're looking at the, you know, certain issues
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that, you know, Palestine universities. I mean, yesterday, I woke, like, the redact that was talking about. Yes, Harvard has awoke disaster. But we also the constitution kind of matters. I mean, it's to me, it's a sacred almost as a Bible. Yeah. I agree with you. I mean, it's as an American, we live and die by the we should, but live and die by the constitution. And by the way, that's one of the hills I'm willing to die on is the constitution to me is is untouchable. Yeah. I had a question for you that later on, though. I was gonna know. That's that's I kinda jumped the gun on that. But Yeah. That's okay. That's alright. But, yeah. I mean, this is this is this is important. I mean, the constitution to me is a sacred document. All four of these documents are sacred in the National Archives. And if we don't have the constitution, if we don't have rights protected, particularly starting with the first, the second, the fourth amendment to name very most immediate, important three ones, We have really nothing. And it's That's correct. Everybody talks about like, for instance, you was talking about the rules based international order and said, no, the law based international, it needs to be the law based international order.
And you know, equal protection of the law. Everyone is equal. Okay, I'm not saying that everyone is truly equal, that all men have been created equal. Created equal, yes. Are they equal? Man, I know some more than others, but we do need to have equal protection. I'll come out and
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say it for you. There are some people who are just stupid.
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You know? Yeah. Exactly. Okay. So let me just say that. Yeah. That We're not all alone. Completely correct. Who cares? But is it truth? Absolutely, it's the truth. And there's some stupid MS that just go, please wake up, wake up Neo, the matrix has you. People really need to just kind of understand that it's your liberty. It's life liberty to pursue happiness. That's that's at stake here. They're they're about to take that away. They really want to do that. And I don't really think Trump can stop this. Matter of fact, sometimes a little bit when it comes to free speech and certain things with I'm like, I didn't quite sign up for that. I mean, this is what makes America see, what the one thing about, like, to me, emotional liberation and all that stuff is it's sovereignty.
And sovereignty is very little it's more than independence, it's more than That's right. Liberty is higher than freedom. Like every form of liberty is a form of freedom, but not every freedom is also liberty. Liberty is like an order of magnitude more powerful than me. And so if you don't have that, if you don't defend that with your life, that's the hills I'm willing to die on. Is life, liberty, pursuit of happiness, equal protection of the law, and the freedom to express all those things that, you know, if you can't, even like the LCU, UCLA, no, LCLU.
AACLU? The ACLU tower. That one, remember, I think it was in the seventies, Skokie, Illinois is a famous case. I think it went before the Supreme Court, if I'm not completely mistaken. In Skokie, Illinois, there was a lot of Nazis. And they were like, I mean, card carrying, you know, goose stepping, or, you know, mustache man kind of thing. Of all people who defended them, the right to assimilate the right to free speech, the ACLU. Well, why? Most of these guys were actually, like all the big hunchies were actually Jewish at the ACLU, at least at the time. Why would they say, well, the Nazis have a right to free speech.
Well, it's, I may hate you, I may hate what you have to say, I may hate everything about you, but God, I'm willing to die for your right to do it. And to me, that's classic, that's as American as it gets. And back to sovereignty, which is what I'm trying to, the emotional liberation is basically personal sovereignty. But why was the American Revolution so different from all the others? What happened back then from the king in the old days, the sovereign, still like a title, was the king. It was always a king, the monarch, the emperor, whatever.
In America, what happened, what the founding fathers did in the infinite wisdom was that they said, we're now transforming, transferring the sovereignty of the king who's, you know, he's above the people, but he's under God. And we're now taking that away from the king. And we've given it to, well, we the people, right? And that's an act of, that is the ultimate revolutionary act to me. I mean, it doesn't get more revolutionary. I mean, we transfer what a thing what a concept. We're transferring. This is like habeas corpus. This is like the the Magna Carta. We've taken the sovereignty away from the king. And by the way, my wife just became, about a year ago, she became a US citizen. Oh, congratulations. Finally, after a year, thank you. And, yeah, she was there with her little flag and she's actually starting I got really choked up about it. And I was like That's beautiful. An American now. And when they do the whole thing and then, you know, pledge allegiance and all that stuff, and in America now, but what does this actually mean to be an American? It's not just something that, you know, most most of us were born in America, so we don't care, we take it for granted, right? It's nothing. But if you're, if you've actually seen that, and one of the questions in there, by the way is, or one of the things you have to do or say, I forget exactly what it is, but you basically have to swear off any foreign titles, potentates, nobility titles, you can't call yourself a Baron or Correct, yeah. You know, a Lord or something, we don't have that.
That's not constitution, that's not American. That's what the old country does. This still happens to some of them. And so to transfer sovereignty, and to actually, that's the ultimate act of empowerment. You're now only responsible to, well, God, a country, and your people, and you're no longer responsible, or you don't owe any allegiance to a monarch, a king, a dictator, you know, whatever. And that's that's as American as apple pie and Chevrolet and well, Chevrolet was actually Canadian, but okay. Fine. Yeah, he's from Quebec, but I'm Mr. Chevrolet, sounds kind of French.
But to me that's that's if we don't understand, this is really, and I don't think most even constitutional lawyers fully, well, they they know this, but do they actually live it or do they actually practice it? Mhmm. This is what America, it's a sovereign country and with sovereign citizens. And if you look at Europeans, they're not sovereign. First of all, the the yielded to a bigger, you know, institution called the EU. An election. But they also have no you can tell, I mean, I walked through, when I first went to Germany, this is 2007 when my dad died, that's why, that's the only reason I even traveled there. And then I decided to basically, you know, manly affairs and all that. So I was there for a few months hanging out, handling the affairs. That's when that event happened, I was invited in, and I walked ahead, all kinds of Americans walked down the street with me.
And they all said, they looked at the people and they were like, something's off. And I said, okay, you're an American. I've I've been here some may not see you as a clear, but you just freshened the boat in. Like, what do you see? What do you pick up? So some people said, I defeated people. They're like, yeah. They're walking like this, but they're basically walking with their heads hung low, you know? And it's they all like they feel like subjects. Like, you know, in German there's a word for Untertam, which means the underling. Actually. In a state, hierarchy level, you're you're subject. So there's a king, a queen, and there's a subject. And you're just one of the minions. You're nothing. And, the best you can ever do is pay your dues to the king, and then move down and then walk backwards, you know, out of the audience or whatever it is. And, this is this is what Europe's like and in particular.
Sure. There's that that whole what would you go? And then they turn around and sell sell tanks with German cat names and iron crosses on them to the Ukrainians Mhmm. Who are part carrying, can I say that, NAZIs? Yes. Nazis. Yeah. Azov battalion, all that kind of these guys don't even make it. I mean, if you understand who Stepan Bandera was, he killed, murdered most bestial ways together with the SS and, you know, Waffen SS and so forth, murdered Poles, Ukrainians, Jews, I mean, you name it. They just killed them in the most bestial ways, and speak of words. Yet that's that's their patron saint. So why are we supporting these people? Why is Germany still supporting these people? On one hand, why was so guilty? Why was so guilty? Why we wanna be Nazis again. We wanna be and now all of a sudden there's like a a drive. We just talked about this earlier. People are starting to come to the mass movement. Well, I wanna feel like a man, and I wanna sign up to the the German army, which basically doesn't exist anymore. They said, well, if you wanna join join real military, go to the marines. That's real men. That's real. That's that's the real deal. Yes. Yeah. Even the army. Like, you're in the army now? No. You're you're in the marines.
I went through ninety days of that training. Long story and end of the life, and PCM and so forth, it was bio identical to the marine corps training. I've done those ninety days. It's it's freaking hell. But that's if you wanna be a man, do that. But then if you stand for something like America, you standing for a system that was in power eighty years ago. Really? You wouldn't you wanna go down that road? And if you understand the German military, it's it's heavily infested, infected by mustache man, 1930s ideology. Really? Oh, yeah. Very strongly. I mean, it's it's they can't find their way out of paperback, like in England, same thing. It's like, was it Larry Johnson, I think, or somebody said, Wembley Stadium has 100,000 seats, the British Army would comfortably fit into that stadium with about 30,000 seats to spare. Really, wow. They have more admirals than they have ships, they have more horses than they have tanks, and Germany is like one order of magnitude more cringe. Well, that's why they will depend on The United States for their defense.
The that's what they do. They're they're they're they're like little kids. I mean, it's like and and like, I got bullied. Dad, I got bullied. And then dad, dad says, well, I wanna talk to, you know, the bully. And then you're like, hey, sis, what are you gonna do? Screw you. Screw you. That's what like, don't chew us. Europe Europe
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My dad could beat up your dad.
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It's like they're just hiding like little chihuahuas with little echo biters. Well, and and then it turns Russia turns around and says, America, me helpless. I'm like, do you really wanna provoke the Russians? You understand what the Russians can do? Yeah. You don't want to? You really don't wanna provoke the Russians. I don't think you wanna mess with these people. Putin may be a very balanced and, you know, kind of Libra. He's Libra, so he's not warlike. He's very, even tempered and unlike Medvedev. You wanna kill Putin? You wanna try it? You wanna take on Medvedev? Okay. Be my guest. Right. Then we're talking nuclear war in three days. Great.
Speaking of Let's keep Putin in power, please. Speak it. Speak it. Or we're all gonna die. Speaking of of, nuclear war,
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Yeah. Where do you think this whole mess is gonna go with Ukraine and and and Russia?
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Well, I think if Trump no. We think we were still in nineteen ninety one military or World War two or whatever. But if Trump Trump thinks honesty no. I voted for the guy. I voted for him three times, although different kinda the last time was kinda like, like, drink cod liver oil. I'm voting for him just to get these other people out, but I'm a little bit I'm cautiously optimistic. Now I'm, like, less so optimistic. I'm still I still vote for that, man. I still vote with all the criticism of the man, I still vote for him. I guess, especially if I look at the other guys, but he has no leverage. Like he told Zelensky, you have no cards, until you're playing cards, I'm not playing, no, you have no cards, okay?
Not even up your sleeve. And truth be told, I mean, I think Trump's getting some, Larry Johnson is one of my favorite people, Scott Reddy also, he's getting the mushroom treatment. And you know what that means, like he's kept in the dark and being fed. And, so Yeah. I know. I don't think he's either very poorly informed or he is just not a very deep thinker. I even did a little video on this. Is Trump really a deep thinker? And again, I'm not just saying he is he is bad or some orange man bad. I'm not coming from that angle. I'm just like, does he really think things through? And if the Russians weren't so patient, the Russians are winning this thing hands down. Well, they wanted to free this to Kyiv. Well, that was Mark Milley who came up with that. Okay?
The Russians never said that, not even Medvedev. So, and the Russians were ill prepared at that time. They figured, well, I'm just gonna give them a good scare, then we'll just kinda like have the sign of Minsk II, and I'll be fine. That didn't happen. So, at this point, the Russians have no longer like three, four hundred thousand people. And by the way, if Trump says it's not his war, he's actually wrong because, well, I gave him javelins and not blankets like Joe Biden, but it was Obama. No. He actually the Russians were actually had shrunk to a third of his power even since the collapse of the Soviet Union. They were no threat, and he's doing all these maneuvers. No. This is Trump's war. This is not Biden's war. This is Trump's war. This is Obama's war. It's Biden's war. It's Trump's war. He's and and he could have just walked away. Why didn't he? Well, I guess he has the Lindsey Grahams of this world and all these people who want the military. I'm a great fan of Eisenhower.
And in 1961, he had the famous speech. And, he really was gonna call it the military industrial congressional complex, but he said military industrial. So this is, I think, if you look at BlackRock, you look at military industrial, Lockheed Martin, Raytheon, you know, yada yada, Borg. I think it's all the, who really did it? Well, all of the above. They all got a stake in this, the neocons, Neo Libs, the Europeans, they all have their stake, BlackRock. And they're looking at this as they wanted to break down, you know, Russia, like it was happening under Yeltsin. And I'm no fan of communism of the Soviet Union by any stretch. I mean, not at all. Okay? I'm not coming from that. So Putin is a question.
And so, oh, that's just he's, no, no, no, no, no, you don't understand Russia. If you don't understand, my favorite form of Christianity is actually Eastern Orthodoxy because it doesn't have original sin. It has a lot of much more nuanced stuff. It's real they they don't like the papacy, they don't like Catholicism. They probably dislike that more than they even like any other form of religion. But Putin is a yeah. He maybe ex KGB. So what? But he's also a deeply religious man. This guy is not faking this. This guy really does not want civilian casualties. Mhmm. And I believe that. And it's, oh, you're just buying the coolant. No. No. I study Russia very intensely and the whole history. I'm I'm real. I'm not an expert in history, but I'm a buff. So I'm really interested in it. That's what I mean by that. Not necessarily by accomplishment, but by inclination.
And, the Russians are very deep thinkers. They're chess masters. They're thinking centuries. The Chinese think in millennia, but we think in, you know, election periods. And, Right. Yeah. It's true. Nice. So it's unfortunately, he's a judo master, and you the Ukraine will lose this war. There's no doubt in my mind. But it's well, it's taking many years. Well, it's the Russian warfare is they're tricking, tricking, tricking, tricking, attrition. They're not trying to strive for territory. He doesn't want all of the Ukraine. He wants the four oblasts that are Russian ethnic Russians, and maybe another few more. You know, he wants he wants Kherson, he wants, you know, maybe he'll take Odessa, he may, but the thing is, there's no way to stop the Russians. The sanctions obviously aren't working. Right. They hurt Europe 10 times more than they ever hurt the Russians. The Russian economy is not in tatters, sorry, I'm fond of lying.
It's not, the Russian economy is, Germany used to be number four after America, China and India, now it's number eight. Guess who's number four? Russia. Yeah. The rule is Ruben. Don't believe all that hype. It's not true. Do your research. And if you really wanna get good research, all you need is to look no farther than the former Fox, guy Judge Napolitano, for instance. He's got some of the better guests on there. A lot of ex army, a lot of ex CIA people, a lot of really good deep thinkers, and Russia's got this. So if if Trump thinks he can roll in, I'm gonna end this phone call in twenty four hours. How's that coming come along, mister Trump? Now it's a hundred days into it or more, three, four months, and he realized there's no leverage. He can't force the Russians, not with sanctions, not with military threat, but looking at the single most modern, most powerful, most capable, most battle hardened military on the planet, bar none.
And they also have nukes, they have hypersonian, for Trump to say, well, they stole that. Okay, they stole it under Obama. Okay, if you steal information, is that information gone? They stole it from us, so now they have it and we don't have it in them? Did you think the street owner? Just saying. So, you know where I'm going. I do. I follow the truth. And even in the hoodie, I mean, we, oh, I don't like that he's killing people. I don't like it all. You you flew 900 sorties into the the hoodie. You didn't defeat them, but you killed a lot of civilians, but no military targets. These are fourteenth century people in robes and, you know, curved swords, curved knives.
And yet they have hypersonic missiles, which we can't we don't have and we can't shoot down. So who's gonna who do you think is gonna win? How do you think this is gonna end? It's gonna end on the battlefield with a devastating collapse of the Ukrainian system. The Russians do not wanna have a guerrilla war, and they're certainly not interested in taking over Western Europe. That's just fear mongering. The Russians have absolutely he does not wanna reinstate the Soviet Union because he hates communism as much as we do. He does not want the czar's empire because that didn't end so well. Right. He just wants Russia to be prosperous And they say, oh, you're just a Putin steward. No. As a study, the man, I look at what he's done, how he's brought back a country that was completely destroyed under Boris Yeltsin and then eighty years of communism, and brought back from the brink, dealt with the oligarchs, got the economy going and suddenly, I mean, if you go if you go to Moscow or over St. Petersburg, they're economically three or four times better off than they were just a decade ago, let alone two or three. Which is amazing. The stores up on stock. It's unbelievable.
The the I mean, I I haven't been there, but I know people who have. And people that know what they're looking for or what they're looking at. Correct. I gotcha. And they all say and I met Larry Johnson. He said, that guy shook and said, oh, God. I can't believe I'm shaking your hand, Larry. Because that hand just shook Lavrov's hand, whom I actually admire as a as an elder statesman. Yes. Diplomacy is a really good thing. Again, I'm not a peace snake. I'm not a pacifist. No. I believe in you you you you you wanna kill me, I'll kill you. End of story. And I have, and I will. But that's not what this is about. These the Russians would rather not do this. Oh, you're a poison steward. You're just glarf. No. I'm just looking at the facts. Please look at them objectively.
Check your prejudice at the door and just look at what they're doing. They're deeply spiritual Christian people of a very deep form of Christianity that really like their culture, they don't like the wokeness, Oh, he's incarcerating all the gay people. No, he's not. Oh, well, you don't can't say he's a tyrant. Look at the facts, none of this is true. We're probably looking at much greater issues with free speech and so forth and then personal expression and then assembly, then you're looking at Russia and Europe. Now that's fascism. Europe is turning fascism real quick. Oh, yeah. Yeah. And and if you're not careful, if you don't guard the constitution, which is the hell I'm going with that one among a couple others, then we may go the same way. Because if we were sell out to I mean, people used to tell me I was private military. I was not real military. So when people say thank you for your service, I said, sorry. I can't accept it because I was a door kicker for Ray Raytheon, Lockheed Martin.
So that's what we did. There's nothing to be proud about, nothing to be proud of. It sucked. It was horrible. And I wish I'd never done it. So, that said, the Russians actually, if you want it, like, all we claim, proclaim in America to look at good old fashioned values, family, you know, prosperity, all that stuff, good, you know, hard work gets real result, the American dream, all that stuff. You know, you don't find it so much in America anymore. Thanks to decades of, you know, whatever deep state. But you do find that in Russia because, yeah, you're just making that up. No. I know enough people whose judgment I really trust that can make a case argued eruditely and eloquently that give me the facts and said, look at this, look at that, look at that. I'm like, look at the statistics, look at the figures. Mhmm. The data don't lie.
And, that's what I'm saying. People don't look at Russia objectively, and they should. As a matter of fact, a lot of the stuff that we we really want in America and and like MAGA, bring America back, America First.
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That's all the Russians are doing. They're just well, it happens to be Russia First, but that's that's what you do when you're Russian. So But I don't see I I don't see a problem with with a country wanting to put their people first, you know? So Exactly. So Yeah. Of course, I expect Russia to be Russia First, and of course I expect Ukraine to be Ukraine First, and and Yeah. You would hope England would be England First, but they're not. They're Exactly. They're migrant first, you know? Right. So I you know, I I I can understand that. And and and it doesn't make you a bad person to feel like that either. You know, it doesn't make you a bad leader to be like that either.
You know, the one thing about this country that that has really, like, in in The United States that has changed, it has been this this putting everybody else ahead. I mean, why is why is why is the left so adamant so adamant about keeping all of these misdirected, abused, wasted, fraudulent programs in effect? Why? I I I read something I read something today that, there was a, a a $4,000,000,000,000 Trillion with a t. With a t in 02/2024. '2 trillion dollar trade deficit.
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Right. Right. Exactly. $2,000,000,000,000.
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So let's just say for argument's sake Mhmm. 1,000,000,000,000 of that was waste, fraud, and abuse, and another trillion and another trillion is the actual, trade deficit. That's Trade deficit. That that's $2,000,000,000,000 out of your pocket, out of my pocket, out of the American people's pocket Yeah. Going to support and take care of other countries while Americans are struggling to pay their bills and to Right. And to make ends meet and to do all these things. And and and the left I know. In this country is adamant. Admit Yeah. About keeping all that waste fraud to be all of these injunctions that that these liberal judges are throwing up against this administration Right. Right. Right. On the tariffs, on on on on on, deportation.
And and the the catch thing now is is, you know, well, they're entitled to due process. No shit, Ed. No. Right. Right. Exactly. If you're here in this country illegally, you are not an American citizen. If you're not an American citizen, the constitution of The United States does not cover you and protect you. I'm sorry. He's acting.
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No. I I'm fully You go to law school and I know that. I mean, wasn't wasn't wasn't even even the the leftist in chief, Franklin Roosevelt Mhmm. He wasn't I forget the exact numbers. I think he deported 19,000,000 illegals. Yeah. I mean, they lost. They may not even been illegal, but I mean, we have now thirty, forty, 50, 60 million nobody knows exactly. You also put the capitol in the population and concentration. And whatever happened to America First? And these liberal judges, I mean, it's like in the Marxist or the Frankfurt School, all these people when they came to California in the fifties, they all had this idea of, and this came from Lenin, the march through the institutions. Yes. So that means you become a leftist little poly size student, and then you become a professor at a liberal arts college. And I remember those from, you know, from from the eighties when I was a college student here in St. Petersburg, Florida. Mhmm. And and those guys were the most outspoken, and they they were grooming people to go through that and now get into positions of politics or particularly the judiciary, becoming judges. Remember the Ninth Ninth District Court and all that? Yeah. A few years ago when they I mean, there's a lot of real liberal hardcore leftist judges, and you see them in all kinds of positions. And they sort of work their way through the institutions.
And if you look what brought down Rome, it was yes, it was decadence with a lot of other things, military, whatever. But it was mostly the culture that brought them down. And they took whenever they went somewhere, they took slave. Mhmm. And then they became house slaves. And eventually, when the master died, whatever, they could graduate to position in the administrative structure of Rome. Right. And then they took that over. And before they knew it, all of Rome was basically infiltrated by foreigners. Mhmm. And that's what brought I'm not saying that's it's not No. Not necessarily.
Yeah. No. It's it's one major factor. Maybe the biggest some people say in this. There are other there are other factors involved too, like, for example,
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incredibly high taxation. Yeah. That's another thing. They had a military that was spread all around the world, much like ours. They had they had undefended 900 bases. Undefended and unprotected borders.
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Yes. It's like the goal I've seen I've seen Germany lose, a championship in 2002 when I was there. I watched it. And the goalie was probably in midfield when he should have been in the goal. So that's unprotected borders, you know? The goalie is not home. There's no one guarding us. Exactly. There there are so and there are so many parallels between The United States right now and Rome
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that, you know, you gotta look at a republic. Generally, a republic only lasts about two fifty.
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Then we'd be the end of that. Right? February. About February. Something like that. No. Actually, wait a minute. Bicentennial was '76, so that's February roughly, give or take. Yeah. February is pretty much. Close. Yeah. But, but but that's generally the lifespan of a republic, you know, because It could be. Yeah.
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Yeah. I think there's certain cycles, and maybe that's the last time. I would hope not for The United States, but I hope not. But, and I'm gonna tell you something. I am part of an organization. I, here in I'm in Texas right now, and I'm part of an organization.
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My favorite state. Yes. Yeah.
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I'm not I'm not a natural born Texan. I'm from New York Okay. Believe it or not. Okay. Yeah. So, I transplanted here about ten years ago. Oh, good for you. But, yeah. I don't praise the Lord for that. I am I'm the deputy county coordinator for, an organization called the Texas Nationalist Movement. Now I I I love it. I don't know if you ever heard of them or not, but, so I am the deputy county coordinator for Maverick County where I live, and, it's a it's a wonderful organization. It's a political action committee basically that we're we're looking to we we we were looking for Texas to once again stand among the nations of the world as an independent nation. And we're doing that through the legislative process. You know, this this is not about going it's not about taking up arms or anything like that. It's not about No. No. No. I get it. But this is, but it's going through the legislative process. And right now Yes.
Internal polling, you know, of of of people that have been polled in Texas, sixty sixty percent of Texans are in support. 60% of Texas are in support by Texas leaving The United States and standing alone. Now if Texas did that, Texas, right off the bat, becomes the eighth largest economy in the world.
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Holy cow. Wow. I didn't Yes. Yeah. It's it's probably the most prosperous state. It used to be California, but I think Texas is definitely better now. Now you think now you you gotta look at it. Texas has
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plenty of land, has plenty of warm land, ranch land. Oh, I love it. Texas. Yes. Warm water seaports. You have all the oil fields. You have Right. And Texas is not part of the national power grid as it is.
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Oh. Oh, right. Yeah. Yeah. Right. I heard that. Yes. Yeah. And, just recently,
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I think it was last week, Texas started to, well, they passed they passed a bill in the Texas house, for, for Texas to have its own currency.
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The Texas Bullion Depository, something like that. I think they're looking at that, go see it. Yes. Things like that. Exactly.
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And, now even even with cryptocurrencies, there's, there's something out there called Texitcoin, which is which is, it's it's strictly mined here in Texas. Right. It's for Texans, But it's I mean, it's it's world it's global, but, but it's it's here in Texas being mined here in Texas by Texans. Right. And, Oh, great. You know, I I actually interviewed the, the the the creator or the founder of Texacoin, a few weeks ago. Wow. Okay. Great guy. Super smart guy. Oh, fascinating. And, you know, I I I actually purchased some Texacoin. Now and I tell people, you know, you really should think about it because I'm just saying Yeah. I'm just saying right now well, when I bought it, it was like 40¢ a coin.
Right. You know? And I I kinda kicked myself that when Bitcoin came out, you know, I kinda looked at it with a suspicious eye. I was like, I'm not gonna die. Yeah. I just wanna die. Yeah. You know? And now, you got one Bitcoin is is is a hundred grand.
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I know. I'm a full month set boat too, but You know? But,
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so I I have, like, I have I I bought a bunch of the TeXa coin and, you know, it was a 40¢ a coin. It was a small investment, but Yes. I'm looking at it like, alright. So if if it tanks, it tanks. Yeah. I lost a few bucks.
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But if this thing if this thing takes off, you know, I'm I'm gonna be pissed. I I could I'm I'm pretty sure, well, for a number of reason. Yeah? Yeah. So,
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you know, you never know. You never know. And then so I I bought it at 40¢ a coin, and I think I think today it was like a dollar 3 a coin or something like that. Wow. Okay. So 250% right there. Exactly. Not bad. So we're get I buy it in Florida? Yeah. You could buy it anywhere. Oh, I can't. So I don't have to live in Texas to do that? No. No. No. No. It's it's it's global, but it's mined here. It takes, like, all the resources to it. It's mined in Texas, but it will to the world, basically. Yeah. Exactly. You go to, texac Okay. Texacoin.org.
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Texacoin Org. I think I think we have to look at that. That looks like Yeah. Check it out. Yeah. They're looking it up. My my kids here are sitting there. Right. They're really good. It's on the screen here for you. Texacoin.org.
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There you go.
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Cool. Now I look into that. And I mean, this is this is speaks to some of those, you know, there's the Federalist Papers and we look at, you know, these people like animals and so forth, but there's also the Anti Federalist Papers. There's also the, at the time of the founding fathers or shortly thereafter, they were looking at giving more power to the states rather than the federal government and, you know Which is where it should be. But it's yeah. I agree. I agree. That's, I mean, even with Roe versus they didn't outlaw abortion, they just kicked it back to the states. And it shouldn't be a constant. Even if you pour that's that's that's that's con I don't even care about that. The point is it had to be kicked back to the states. I agree. And each state should do that. And and and there should be much more taken away from the federal government and given it to the states as a matter of principle. My personal thought on that is is that the the affairs of Washington of Washington DC should not affect my life or your life directly.
Thank you. Thank you. That's where it should Absolutely. Just shake hands on that. That I'm totally in agreement with. You know, I don't they they should not be telling me how much water should be in my toilet. There you go. And, Stupid example, I know, but that's Yeah. No. No. But yeah. Exactly. No. It's actually a great example because it shows a stupidity of their thinking and, it's a stupid example through their eyes. But, you know, the states, it should be because it's it's it's taken the mentality of the people. They're the globalist one when everything's centralized and more and more, all of America, federal, all of, you know, the Western Hemisphere, all of the world, world state, the sources of this world and so forth. When I think everything should be more and more decentralized Agreed.
Down to a dummy on core currency, you know, the state should be able to mine, not mine, but I mean to to to to coin its own currency, and, to mint its own currency. And it should be much more to the mentality of the people. I mean, just West And East Texas are already, like, a different thing, right? Of course. Yeah. So, you know, okay, that's one state. Okay. Austin is very different from Houston and so forth. I don't know how Alex Jones manages to live in Austin, the most liberal city in I was like, Cali or New York. But, yeah, it's state rights, states rights, probably one of the antidotes and you know, you know, I'm not a secessionist, but I mean, I could say I think I think we're talking we're talking to somebody from Idaho who's like kind of doing the same thing for Idaho. Like, not a secession moment, but
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a states rights kind of independence kind of thing. Let me let me tell you this too, that this might this might blow you away a little bit. I don't know how much you're aware of this stuff. But did you know that right now, there are 25 states that have secession movements working its way through the legislative process?
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Oh, I didn't know. That's almost double what I thought it was. Okay. And do you Wow. That's half the states. And and just think about this.
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It's not just red states either. It's California. Oh, really? Okay. California has a movement called CalExit. Good. Yeah. Which, believe it or not, California is probably closer to leaving the union than than Texas is.
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No kidding. Which would kinda bum me out of that. Lot of conservatives in California, just not in the big cities. Exactly. And then, like like Vermont.
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Vermont has a very big, secession movement. So is New Hampshire. I love that. New Hampshire? Okay. There are some there are some counties in Upstate New York Right. That wanna separate from New York state as a whole. I don't know if you wanna count that really secession. I don't blame them. But, but yeah. So so it's out there, you know. There are plenty there's plenty of states that are that are Yes. Kicking this idea around. Of course, it was worse well, not worse, but it it was more prevalent under Joe Biden's administration. Okay. You know, with Donald Trump then, you know, there's a little bit more, like, you know Yeah. We we we wanna stick this out for a little bit longer. You know, because he did take the steps to secure the border and someone else I live I Now I don't know if you know, but I live in Eagle Pass, which is Oh, okay. Which is right on the coast. I'm five years. I'm a firefighter. Are you feeling that? Are you are you Oh, sure. Actually okay. So sure. I mean, I mean, the the military presence that's around here, you see it all over the place. You know, border patrol.
There's, this is this is probably, you know, I I thought living in New York, you felt that oppressive, you know, police presence. You know, just with the NYPD. But but I'm gonna tell you honestly, here you have actively on patrols. You see constables, sheriffs, police, state police, border patrol, and you don't even hear and you but you don't feel it.
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No. No. Exactly. It's a different In New York, it feels oppressive. I know what you're talking about. I've been there yet. I went to New York,
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last year to see my sister for Thanksgiving and and whatnot. And, man, I'm gonna tell you honestly, I I was walking around New York, and I was and, she lived on Staten Island.
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Okay. And,
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I'm gonna tell you, man, not a smile on anybody's face. Everybody looks so beaten down, haggard. Every street corner had a camera, NYPD camera. Everywhere is traffic light cameras, stop sign cameras, speed cameras. Wow. Even on residential streets, they had speed cameras. Oh, wow. And, you know, I I when I left and I came back to Texas, man, I got back to my house. I got out of my car. I got on the floor. I kissed the ground. I said, I am home. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. I yeah. Exactly. No. I I can definitely get that. Yeah. Not wait. And I I talk to my friends and whatnot, and they're like, hey, aren't you ever gonna come back to New York? No.
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No. They're like, why would I why would I do that to myself?
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And I tell them, because because because once you get the taste of what freedom really is Yes. Yes. You you're you're not gonna give it up. You're not gonna give it up. I pay no state income tax here in Texas. Okay. That we have in Florida too, but that's about where it ends. Yep. So so we have no state income tax. I I can I can openly carry my firearm?
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Nobody's Oh, you have open carry? Oh, Oh, really?
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You know, we also have the constitutional carry, open carry, you know, and Oh, you can conceal it. Okay. Because Arizona, I remember you couldn't conceal it. No. No. No. You had to display it. No. No. You can you can carry open concealed, however you want really, basically. And, you know Nice. You know, people do. I mean, it's great. I I love it. You know? Nice. Oh, yeah. And there's like there's like no crime here because people carry.
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That is nice. Yeah. I mean, I I prefer open carry because then there's no answers or buts. Everybody knows what, you know This is what I got. What's going on. Yeah. I love that. That's great. We have we have constitutional. Just got that about a couple years ago.
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But, I mean, open carry is is definitely Well, constitutional carry is good, but it does have its limitations, believe it or not. You know, you're Right. You are better off getting your license to carry because then it it's easier on the background checks. Right. You You don't have to go through the whole process, you know, when you go into the gun shop and make a purchase. Right. So it it's just faster. That's really all it is. Right. No. No. Exactly. Yeah. And it's a lot of fun. But, hey, you know what? We we're all we're at an hour already. Do you wanna stick around for a little bit? Oh, we are. Or do you wanna stick around? Or Okay. Alright. Cool. Because what I wanted to ask you, because I we've been all over the place. Right. Yeah. One of the things that I really, really caught my attention as when I was going over your stuff was, you talk about the matrix.
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Yeah. A prison for your mind that you can't see, taste, or touch. And when I talk about emotional liberation, it's I have this little dog that's about five pounds, six pounds, a little chihuahua kind of pit bull. She thinks she's two hundred pounds, she'll attack dogs that size. But, when she gets her little stuffed toy, that she had for seven years now, she takes him goes, and you think that poor thing, you know, and and she's that's how most people are, like, tossed about like a little boat on the ocean of their inner ocean of emotion. Mhmm. And it has you. Whatever has you, what runs you will destroy you. It's almost like you're in the death grip of your pathologic inner critic. I studied psychology, although I'm not, I don't have a PhD so I can't practice. But but I know enough about it. It's the the pathologic inner critic is a principle. In a voice that tells us, you're not good enough, you never amounted to nothing yet.
That kind of nagging perpetual in a voice, that that voice used to tear me to shreds. Then twenty years later, when I learned a lot of stuff, it was like, smart, smooth move dumbass. You know better. Come on. And now it's like this path, this inner voice is like, dude, you're drunk. Gary had two beers. You really need a third one. Come on. You know it's not good for you. That's he doesn't he doesn't yell at me. He doesn't, like, put me through the ringer. He's just, nah, you know, I'm just I'm your best buddy. Like, give me the crazies. You don't drive. So that's like a form of emotional liberation. And the matrix is just kinda like, yes, part of it is metaphor, but part of it is also, you know, you believe the same thing everybody else believes. You're looking at the same stuff. You really think that everything is a certain way when it may not be a certain way.
Almost like that scene where he walks Neo and the woman in red. It says, See, these people are still so invested into the system, the sheeple, they're they're a slave to their own emotion, the impulses, they have no control over it, and most of it is unconscious. When you take SSRIs or other other, you know, tricyclics or other other pharmaceutical drugs, but you never achieve that emotional liberation, emotional liberty, not just emotional freedom to be a dumbass, but emotional liberty to actually do something with your life. And as long as that thing, these things kind of have you, the matrix has you kind of thing. It's almost like a demon inside that tells you bad things. If you break free from that, and most of that is unconscious.
Mhmm. It's it's like an iceberg. See, an iceberg we see like 11% or one one ninth. And if you've seen the National Geographic from seventy, thirty years ago, see an iceberg, you see that thing's already the size of a cruise ship. Alright. But then you see like the rest of it versus eighty, eighty nine percent. Which is underwater. With emotions, you're probably aware of maybe one part in a thousand, one part in 10,000. Wow. Very little. And so what we do in emotional liberation, I take that iceberg of your emotional stuff that you can't, that you feel that you know is there, your negative feelings are basically accompanied by sixty, seventy, 90 thousand, a thousand every day. Most of which are bad, most of which tell you you're no good.
So I I I bring that up and then you can, you know, become conscious of a little more of what what runs you, what has you less control over you. And then there's methods to release that on a visceral level, on a literal physical level, not just, and it's gone. And then whenever I do these techniques with these people, I said, okay, well, that felt like liberating. I said, well, okay, that's fine, but put it to the test. Try to bring that emotion back, that I'm no good, I'm useless, just bring it back. Or some issue you had, oh, that girl just really looked at me, like limiting beliefs, for instance, or for instance, like intermediate beliefs. You see one girl shuts you down, right? Right.
Then you think, oh, that must mean I'm not attractive, all girls hate me, Tomorrow, like, every girl in the world will reject me. Kinda like, it's not rational. But that's kinda how the mind works, sometimes just to a extent, some more of them, some less. So I'll be looking at all that stuff, and we're just taking it and, basically ripping it out by the root. I remember once when I lived in California in the eighties, I had these weeds in my garden, they were like maybe five feet tall. Okay. And I tried to pull one out, and I got this much of the root out, but it was still the stick. And then I realized, oh my god, that root is four feet deep.
So then I watered the yard, and then then I was able to turn the soil, and then I was able to pull the whole thing out. See, like, most of these techniques or emotion freedom technique or, you know, Meridian, whatever, that's all superficial. A lot of it is like, are you ready to let go of your problem? Okay. Let go of your problem? Don't you feel so much better? And I'm like, no, that didn't do Jack. Okay? That didn't do anything. So like this is about three, four, five, six orders of magnitude deeper, you need to pull the whole mother something out and then it's gone. It's really, is it an event? No, it takes months, if not years to do that. But we can probably collapse something that took me forty years to figure out, probably collapse it in maybe two to four years.
And, so then when when you really pull this out, every time you have an emotional issue that really works, you're real MF, Basically, you take a tour of your body, you really get conscious of your mind, body, mind. You know, it sounds like woo woo crap, but, it's not. It's not new age bullshit. It really works. And we have thousands of people that will swear an oath that it works because they know it works. And, and I probably wouldn't be alive without my PTSD. Every time I see a helicopter, you h 16, but, like, boom, boom, boom. Because they fly by here from Mcdowell Air Force.
And I'm like, that's just a helicopter. Okay. But, I mean, in the beginning, twenty years ago, I was, like, going almost insane because, you know, they have hellfire missiles and all kinds of crap. No. It's just a helicopter, dude. And so all that stuff that drags me down, that held me down, that made me like a slave to my emotions, or like, let's say you're pushing some, you know that expression, somebody's pushing your buttons, right? So it's almost like you have this panel of like a chessboard with 64 buttons. So any girl that knows you and knows your weaknesses can push that button that gets an emotional rise out of you. Mhmm. When you do these kinds of emotional liberation techniques, for lack of a better word, then the girl pushes the same button.
Instead of of a hand grenade going off, it's just a little light bulb that says, yeah, that issue is there. Okay. This is, oh, okay. Glad you noticed. Girl like, shit, that didn't work. Okay. Let me push another button. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I know you're not pushing button number seven d. Okay. Oh, let me try four gs. Damn, it's not working. I can't get a rise out of this guy, or your boss, whoever, buddies, the system. And then now that you, when you go through that, and it takes some time, yeah, I can't tell you what works. You will see some effects in a few days.
But to really do the whole thing, you'd probably look in a month, if not, maybe a couple years or more. But then when somebody pushes your buttons, and they don't get that rise out of you, you say, yeah, you say it like it's a bad thing. Okay, so what's that? What's that? Let me try another button. And you realize they're powerless, they can't get a rise out of you. You're no longer a slave to your emotion. That's a form of liberation, that's a form of freedom, That's a form of liberty. And you're no longer you're you're sort of it's not like one button, you take the red pill and you get out of the matrix. Right?
It's more of a process that takes time and it has it's multifaceted. And those those inner dialogues, those inner issues are kind of tricky. It takes a long time to get rid of all that stuff. Mhmm. It could take years, it could take decades, but you can collapse that time frame. And once you have that, it doesn't mean you don't get angry or sad. No. But it means, and I get, I'm pretty, you know, I'm a hothead. I'd like, you wanna fight? Okay, let's fight. And my team's like, no, no, no, no, we don't wanna fight. We just wanna try and just, it's not just everything's good. But, they can handle, sometimes it's like I'm in the middle of a negotiation.
And then I just say, excuse me, I just have to go somewhere for five minutes. I do this exercise, I come back and people say, oh my God, you're a different person. I'm like, what'd you do? None of your business. And then I'm like, I'm able, I still feel the emotion, but I'm no longer a slave to it. It's more like a, almost like a Zen Buddhist, kind of like, you witness, I'm experiencing this, I was having that emotion, but it's no longer, I'm no longer in this thralls in this grip. Right? Well, that's interesting. And that's a form of freedom, a pretty deep one. And then suddenly you realize it's so much easier to see throughout the throughout the people's b s when you do that. Or women's manipulative tech, or just any kind of narcissistic or psychopathic or any of that stuff. It's like they're they're trying to do that. That's what used to work. How the hell does not work anymore in this guy? I can't manipulate him anymore, women, for instance.
And then I said, it's time for you to leave. Oh my god. He's no longer a slave to me. None of this I've lost him. She like the stoics. Right?
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See, next. See you later or not. Interesting. Interesting you use that example. It's it's time for you to leave. I I, I I I I I came I recently came out of a a a very, difficult divorce.
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Oh. And Yeah. I feel for you, brother. Yeah. I do. Oh. It's alright. Been there done that. Yeah. Yeah. It's okay, though.
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Yeah. But, it did take me a while to, to kinda get back on my feet again. It it it because of the circumstance I'm not gonna get into the details of it, but but the circumstance that surrounded it led to the divorce really, really wrecked me for a while. And, It can do that. And it it came at a time where I I I had experienced, significant loss. I I lost. In in the in the matter Yeah. In the matter of a year and a half, I lost my dad. Yeah. Six months after that six months after that, my grandmother passed away.
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Okay. Yeah. I can relate. I'm sorry to hear that, man. And then,
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while I was up in New York, Barry and my grandmother, my my wife at the time and I, we had we didn't have kids, but we had we had French bulldogs. They were our babies.
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Mhmm. And Yeah. I know them. Yeah. And,
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my boy, he passed away while I was up in New York. Oh, man. I'm so sorry. That's I came back, and then Yeah. A few months after, a few months after that, on on my birthday, I I caught my wife cheating on me.
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Shit. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yeah. Yeah.
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Yeah. And then a few months can relate to this. Yeah. And then a few months after that, my mother passed away. Oh, man. So all all of that hit me at the at, you know, all at once, and I I did not handle it well. I'm so sorry. I I I spiraled in. I started drinking. I started doing all kinds of stuff that I hadn't done in years.
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Yeah. No. I I get it. I understand. I don't know. Up to up to that point done that. Yeah. Up to that point, it had been almost twenty
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five, twenty six years that I had a drink. And, you know, I I, yeah, I I I went down that road and then, I I tried I tried to take my life. I, I I took a whole bottle of pill. I took a whole bottle of crystal relaxers with a bottle of Jack. Right. Right. Yeah. That can work. Yeah. And but I I still woke up, and I woke up the next day with a headache. That was about it.
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That was it.
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I'm glad I'm glad it turned out that way. Well, also me too. Yeah. I mean Either way. You know? But yeah. But it but it really did affect affect me and and it's been Of course. It's been three years now since since the divorce and, and, you know, I've been on my own now and, Right. And I've I've been very very relationship shy. Like, I I I'm not sure I'm not sure where I wanna go with this, you know. I'm not sure Right. Right. If I wanna do this stuff. And, what made me think of that is my my attitude toward relationships have changed quite a bit. For example Yes.
Yes. Yes. Just just a tie just a tie to it's time for you to leave. There's a long way to get to it, but I'm getting there. The, I I was having dinner with with with a woman one night and, I had she came to my house, and I love to cook. I'm I'm an amateur chef and Oh, cool. But so Yeah. That's that's great. That's good good stuff I have to do. I love doing it. It's I I made I made this beautiful pasta dish. It was, it was, it was fettuccine with sweet peas, prosciut, and a white wine cream sauce. I'm getting hungry. With a homemade garlic bread that I made. Alright. I made, I I made these caramel apple tarts with Oh, man. Homemade vanilla ice cream and all that stuff. Great stuff. I'm celebrating. Yeah. I'll I'll send you pictures.
But, so I made this great dinner, and and and this woman came over. And we're sitting there, and we're about to have dinner. And Right. And, she looks down at my at my dogs. I I still have I still have two French bulldogs. I have another You still have two? Okay. I have my girl, my baby girl. And then I have I have my my big boy, my my Chuck. So, she looked at them, and she looked she goes, well, what about them? I'm like, what what about them? She goes Right. Aren't you gonna put them outside? No. No. Why first of all, it's a 10 degrees out. Why am I gonna put them outside?
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And Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Right. And, no. I don't no. They they No. They're your buddies. Right. I mean, they're they're your kids. Whatever. Well, I don't I don't I don't eat where there are dogs.
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Oh, god. Yeah. Well Okay. Okay. Then I'm not going at the door. So you're telling me so okay. After after all that, you're telling me you're not gonna eat because the dogs are in the house? She goes, yeah. I said, well, I got something else to tell you. I said, not only do the dogs eat what I feed them what I cook for this, I cook for them every day. Not only do they get that, but they also sleep in my bed. She goes, oh, no. No. Oh. She goes, oh, no. No. No. No. No. No. I said, okay. Fine. So
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now that we understand each other, you can live. Good for you. Good for you, bro. And that that's what I like to hear. Yes. I mean, not not the story, but I mean, the,
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your your your way to deal with it. I'm not gonna I'm not gonna do that.
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No. Good for you. Good for you. This people look you kept your power. Thank you. Thank you for doing that. But it it, you know, it it comes and goes. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. We're honest with you. Okay. No. I get that. I understand. It's it's a bit of, and that's that's a rough thing. And we were just in the middle of, cannot say that you're in okay. So my first executive officer, if you will, my number one, he just went through something like that. And, yeah. So we're we're using that knowledge and his experience and since he has all the methods of dealing with it, it was probably made it probably about maybe half as painful, a quarter as painful, something like that.
I don't know the exact thing and it's none of my business. But the thing is, we put all that in the program we call, they're still working on. It's almost done, but it's getting there. It's called D and D, dumped in the worst. And a lot of this deals with all of that and all the emotion stuff of it. And also how to get your power back. How to eventually get out of all that, you know, pain and all that stuff so you actually can open yourself up to a new relationship. Yeah. Or you're not so desperate that if girl does that, well, don't let the door grow. Yeah. Hit you on your fat ass on the way out. Yeah. Yeah. Here you go. So not that it wasn't necessarily fat, but, it's just an expression. But it's just a bad and so yeah. I mean, you seem to be doing okay because if you're already at that point that you can actually that you're not desperate enough to do that. Yeah. After all this, you want somebody, you want companionship, you you you went through all that, cooking and all that, and and then this. Right? And then but you still have the wherewithal, dude. So it nope. There's certain lines that it can't be crossed.
And, if you don't like it, well,
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be be on your way. My dogs ate well that night.
[01:30:36] Unknown:
Yeah. But they did. Good for you. And that's exactly so sounds almost like you don't have to teach you anything. And I don't think you guys Oh, no. And have
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much to teach you. But the thing is, Oh, no. There there's a lot I need to learn, my friend. There's a lot I need to learn. The, you know, I like I said, I do struggle I do struggle with it, you know, to to be honest with you. Like, there there are times where Yeah. Yeah. Understandably so. Yeah. I feel like I'm kinda like on this roller coaster, like, sometimes Right. Yeah. It's it's it's like that's like an oscillation, undulation
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kind of process. Yeah. It has better days than it's worst days. Yeah. That's that's roller coaster is okay with the methods. Let me Hey there. This is Bernad. Orlando just talked about me just to quickly jump in. Yes, sir. Go ahead. The one thing I found if you ever want to try out the stuff Orlando told you about, that roller coaster thing, and that's pretty much within a month or two with using that stuff we talked about. After the the the the the new separation was just it was it's not it's only like eight months ago or something? Five months ago now. I'm sorry? Five months ago. Well, the actual separation was five months ago, but that it was kinda like I saw where it was headed was probably eight months ago. Yeah. But but the key thing I found that was different this time than what I had before when I didn't know all that stuff is that that roller coaster stuff, we didn't know exactly what you mean. Yeah. Exactly. One day you're doing well, the next day all the shit comes back up and you're struggling just as hard as the first day. Right? Yes.
That can be ended extremely quickly if you apply the shit. And I was actually surprised because I hadn't had it in the first two breakups I had in my life. But I had it in this one. And the difference is I'm not saying I'm not suffering at all. Right? Oh, yeah. Right. It's still there. But the depth and intensity of the suffering is significantly shorter. Right. The troughs and the peaks kinda get lower. Yeah. Yeah. I mean I mean, the the rest of our team here, especially two guys who live close to me, they've seen me go through this day by day. And there's not that much ups and downs anymore. That's great. Yeah, that's part and part that's part of what it will do for you. And it really works pretty much. Does it work equally for everyone? No. But does it work for almost everyone? Yes. As long as you apply it. But I mean, these these things, you can probably collapse the three or four years of of grieving down to probably six to twelve months. Mhmm.
Like, you know, to tell you, you know what, you need to work on your stuff before you jump into the next relationship. Right? With another love, I would recover. Yeah. That's great. But you really probably gonna relive the same problems you had in the last relationship and the next one and so forth. That's all that stuff is baked into the cake of what we do. And it is everyone here. What what's your qualification badge for being here and being part of that team? Well, you had to go through that same same thing yourself. You had to have your heart broken. It's part of the initiation process, right, in the manhood. Yes, sir. And, it's it's you're not a man if you hadn't had your heart broken at one point, unfortunately. And this is not a good thing. I'm not saying it's a good thing. No. No. No. It's important though because it it does make it refines you. It makes you it makes you a better person, a better man. It does. And stronger and more solid. It forces you to look at your values and virtues. By by the virtue sounds like, oh, some church lady. Right? No. Virtue is VIR is from Latin man, okay? So it's a masculine quality. Maybe the ultimate to have virtues and values is a man equality. It's not some new age or virtue second BS. Right. And it forces you to look at all that stuff, reexamine your life, and there's a way to do that by default or by design.
And it confronts you with every tiny little piece of your psyche and every little thing that you didn't look at before, you shadowed young ones and so forth. And so it it is it can be a truly cathartic process to really go through this, but you have to go through it the right way. I mean, we all go through it eventually, but there's an illusion that time heals all the wounds. And it it may they've sort of fade into obscurity a little bit, but that doesn't mean that it's still there and they'll come up right when you least expect them and then when you least want them. Right. Yes. Yeah. I I know what you're talking about with that. Yeah. Yeah.
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That's it's wild. You know? It makes you makes a strong man, though. Yeah. It does. I think it does. Well, for me, at least, I I feel like it has. It's it's made me what it made me do was like, again, reevaluate who I am. Yes. Reexamine, reexamine myself and to see, you know,
[01:34:51] Unknown:
you know, because I had been married for what? I'm 54 right now, so. Oh, really? Oh, I thought you were 40. I'm sorry. I'm not trying to fly to your house. Oh, no, no, no, no, no. Oh, you. Oh, okay. I'm okay. Well, then not as far apart. Okay. No. Then I've been I was married.
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I got married when I was 22,
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20 three. Oh, okay. Yeah. That's very young. Oh, my God. You were married for, you know. Okay. That's that's certainly something I spent. I spent thirty something years of my life, and that's twice as long as I've been married in a relationship.
[01:35:21] Unknown:
Well, me too. I was married. My first my first marriage is twenty years, and my second one was was about ten. So Oh, this was too I'm sorry. I mean, I sort of yeah. Okay. I'm sorry. I got the wrong one. Okay. So that's a long time to be married. So you've been married for more than half of your life. Exactly. Exactly. So I I really lost track of who I was. And and and Yeah. Because I you know, you put yourself into a relationship,
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you know, you take on each other. You become each other. Yeah. Yeah. You become a we. It's like you you're in two units and suddenly you're in this. Suddenly, you think you have more real estate, but it's actually like, my wife always says, this is what I hate about so many couples. There's only a we. The guy well, I can't we will come over at seven or whatever. It's always we. And there's no more you're not you're not dealing with Tom and you're not dealing with, Sheila, whatever. Right. No. Exactly.
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And and and again, there's I I don't think there's anything wrong with having a close relationship with your spouse. Oh, no. No. There's nothing wrong with that. Not at all what I'm saying. No. I didn't think so either. But but, you know, just, you know, just to clarify for some of the, you know, people who don't think out there. Right. You know, you you there's nothing wrong with being in a close relationship, but you have to be who you are. You have to Yes. You have to lose yourself in that. That's what a lot of people do. Exactly. And we have all and I have, and we all have, I think. And,
[01:36:33] Unknown:
you lose at least a part of it, your sovereignty, for lack of a better expression. And there it is again. It all ties together, my friend. It all ties together. Yeah. It's like you're you're complete complete, you know, enclosed, self self sufficient unit. Yeah. And and you're not part of of something of of like a couple. You're
[01:36:53] Unknown:
no longer a man. And that happens to a lot of guys. Right. Like I I like for example, in in in my previous relationship, I, you know, I I gave up friends, you know. I Yeah. Yes. And and then If you didn't like him, maybe whatever. Right. Exactly. And then and then when when I was alone, I was alone. I didn't have anybody. I didn't have anybody I can I can call and say, bro, listen to this? This is what I'm dealing with. Talk me off the ledge. You know what I mean?
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Yeah. And we have a lot of the talking ledge. Half the team here has gone through some some expression, like, some some some ordeal like that. Right. Literally. Like, literally off the ledge. I mean okay. So I'm not getting into too much of it, but, yeah, I understand. We all understand. And now that I've rebuilt
[01:37:34] Unknown:
my friendships, you know, that I gave up over the years and, you know, like, I'm I'm straight out I tell anybody that I that I'm that I'm getting involved with, or I'm talking to, or whatever. I'm not giving up my friends. I'm not giving up anything like that again. No. No. Exactly.
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You know, that's
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autonomy. That's self sufficiency. That's sovereignty. Right. I'm not asking you for your phone to look into your phone. You're not looking at mine. No. No. Oh, God. You know?
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Oh, yeah. Yeah. I've been there, too.
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You know, it's it's one of those things. I'm not. Look, I'm trusting you. Mhmm. You're an adult. I'm trusting you to act like an adult and and contain yourself like an adult. I expect I expect the same treatment in return,
[01:38:15] Unknown:
you know? Absolutely. Yes. Yes. And it's it's a mutual thing of respect and not not just losing yourself in that or being co opted or I mean, there's so many ways people lose their power, their self sufficiency, or their sovereignty. And it's just like the European countries lose it or even the states lose their power to the federal government. Right. You lose and you become this big overarching thing, but you're no longer yourself. Like The States, the people, individually your own man.
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And my wife always tells me that. She says, yep, that's what I hate about so many couples, that you can't get one or the other. You only can get them, like, you know, as as a unit. Yeah. And let me ask you this. I I saw I saw this thing on on a social media post, and and, it just it just crossed my mind as we were talking about this. Right. It was a quote. It said that, men give up happiness for family.
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Yes.
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Yeah. Women give up family for happiness.
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Wow. That's that's very interesting. That's that's clever and intelligent. And, there's there's definitely something to it. I have to sort of think through this a little bit,
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which is probably gonna take me longer than we can have already. Oh, yeah. No. That's fine. It was just it was something I saw a couple of days ago, but I thought it was very interesting.
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Very interesting. I have to really spend a little bit of time on meditating on that one, but that's that's I think, yeah, I I think that's exactly accurate. Yeah. That's why it's wild. It's
[01:39:40] Unknown:
Yeah. You get I thought about it, and I I actually I reposted it on on something, and some of the feedback and the comments that I got on it were like, well, that's not true in every circumstance and that's not true. Right. Yeah. And I'm like, well No. That's that's that's actually true. I had a really That's true. Yeah. I had a really good friend of mine, comment on it. I I had posted on the Facebook page and, I don't know. She may be watching right now. I don't know. But, you know, I'm not trying to impress her anything like that. So I'm not gonna say her name. But, but but she posted and I what I did is I I just I just posted the picture of it, the screenshot of it, or the or the meme of it, whatever it is. Right. And all I wrote in the comment was change my mind.
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Yes.
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Yes. Yeah. And and so she she had commented on it, and then I was like, well, your argument still hasn't changed my mind.
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It doesn't.
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You know, so but, but but she but she's great. And she took it exactly the way I meant it. She she knows me for many, many, many, many years. Like, I wanna say from probably, '96, '90 '7, somewhere around there. So I've known her for many, many years. And she she's a good person. She's, she's a retired a retired cop in New York. You know, she has a Mhmm. She's an amazing family and, you know, she's a good friend. So Right. So if you're listening and you're watching, hi. You know what I'm talking about?
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Well,
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that's that's that's very interesting stuff. I like that. That's Yeah. I just it just it just struck me. Yeah. Men give up Yeah. Give up happiness for family and women. Family. Yeah. For happiness. And that that kind of to me I think it's true. It goes it goes along with what you hear today. I mean, today, you know Mhmm. Relationships. I I call it a disposable a disposable society because
[01:41:20] Unknown:
Yes. It is. A lot of a lot of women that you talk to are all in and about, well, what are you bringing to the table? Well, hello. What are you bringing to the table? Right. Right. Well, it's always transactional to a point, and it's not all there is to it, but it's it's part that you can't deny or negate.
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A buddy of mine started dating someone, and, she was like, well, before we before we go anywhere goes, I wanna know how much you have in your bank account. Why? It's none of your business. Because it's not he he's like he's like he's like, it's none of your business because it's not yours.
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Exactly. You know? And it's never really yours. Yep. And yeah. Exactly. And that's that's sort of you need to keep a certain part. My wife says, I wanna know these things. I know you do whatever you want. I'm not never gonna get involved in this. You have to have yours of mine, and there's a common part. There's us, there's you and me. And, yeah, she doesn't want to look at those things. She says, okay, well, if you want to show me fine, I care. But she's not demanding like some of the other women I was with over the years, and or always kind of checking on the phone or checking your email or oh my god, you have porn on your computer, whatever. Yeah. I'm a guy. Okay. So I may I may a little bit, not not much, but okay. Yeah. But I mean, it's it's it's a principle. It's not whether you have it or not. It's it's whether it's it's not in your business. Right. And, and and then when people that's part of, you know, boundaries. I mean, we all have boundaries, but a lot of times we leave the the lock in the key, or we we leave the door unlocked or whatever. And then and it works both ways. You you can't control anyone but yourself. And and if you know, you have to be in control of yourself, but you can't that's none of your business. That's right. And and neither is anyone else's to go into yours. A lot of people have a doors with a handle on the outside and a lock on the outside, and then they're wondering if they get burglars. And these boundaries are extremely important. A lot of guys, when I tell them, is it, yeah. What would you that sounds like an a thing or like some kind of like, you know, drug therapy thing, like rehab.
No. Healthy boundaries, it's not a woo woo thing. It's not some kind of new new age b s. You have to have boundaries. You control this much and nobody else it's none of their business. What you do, what you do, you know? And unfortunately, a lot of people, this is so blurry with most people. They don't understand. And and there's nothing selfish or secretive or or evil or is a subculture. It's just what you do. You have to have your own autonomy, your own sovereignty. And you can't let anyone violate that. No one. Not the government, not your girlfriend, not your wife, not you no one. Not your boss, no one. There's none of the goddamn, pardon my French, business. So,
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So one more one one other question for you, and I I saw this in some of the notes that I I had for you. You use a term called spiritually castrated. Can you tell tell tell us what exactly that means and, what does it look like? You know, I mean
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Well, it's it's I mean, men I wouldn't necessarily mean spiritual in a oh, super spiritual, like JP. But, it's it's, there's a spiritual dimension to your person, your liberty, your your everything. And if you give you if you if you give you power, you could even if you if you if you're waiting for a panacea or like the redeemer or the second coming of Christ or or the second coming of Trump or whatever it is, you you constantly giving your you're putting all that on somebody else who may or may not be able to fulfill this matter of fact, nobody can fill those things for you. And also men are complicit in their own demasculation, emasculation.
And there's, it's on so many levels. There's physical, emotional, mental, and spiritual. And if you don't, you need to even, I think have limits even with the divine. I mean the divine knows it all, does all, but you still need to have a good relationship with it. And if you allow anything, anyone, any doctrine, or anybody else's idea about what God is, or what women are, whatever it is, to invade that inner space of you, then you really lose a form of sovereignty, you lose an autonomy, you lose an self sufficiency, you lose an really way. So you can't allow and most people really castrate themselves. And I mean it more more figuratively than literally.
Oh, absolutely. But I don't really mean literally. But, it's all figuratively. But it's it's if we allow anyone to do that, even the divine or your idea, we know none of us really truly know God. I mean, we have ideas about it, certain books and scriptures that tell us what God is, but do we actually know? And I remember when I did a lot of things where I kinda talked to God, quote unquote, in meditation. And one thing that was like, well, bow down before you, and the voice said, do not supplicate. I'm like, okay, who said that? Is that the devil? I think it was God, it sounded, but it sounded like more than God. And I was like, they said, no.
I never asked anyone to be on your knees. I asked you to hold your head up high, become a living example of the divine, of the spiritual. As you're human, you're mortal, you're full of faults, or sin, whatever. But you still hold your head up. Right. And you stand for something or you fall for anything. You need to hold your head up if you, like the old song from the eighties or whatever, hold your head up. Hold your head up, don't supplicate, don't bow down. I'm I'm not your boss, I'm not I'm not trying to to keep you down. I'm your friend. Was that really God talking to me? Maybe it was my subconscious mind. I don't care who it was. I don't think it was the devil.
I couldn't show him the devil. I didn't feel like the devil. Whatever it was, it made sense to you though. It was like, don't make yourself small. And the idea was like, okay, maybe it's a bit of a new age idea, maybe an Eastern philosophy, philosophy, but it's more the divine God is so unspeakably and so limitless. But it has to sort of experience itself through the billions and trillions and quadrillions of tiny little sparks of consciousness. And those are all created in the image of God. Those are all worthy and worth something. And if you completely, oh, Mayor Coppola, I can then, yeah, ashes on my my head and so forth and, you know, dress yourself as sackcloth. Do not make the gods jealous like in Greek mythology. The old friars walking around whipping themselves, you know. Yeah. That that whipping yourself with that and chastising yourself. Self flagellation. That's what it is. Self flagellation. That's it. And that's not really healthy. And and every time I've done whether it was like shamanic vision quest or Ayahuasca in the Amazon 30, 40 Years ago before it became fashionable, whatever.
Every time I got this thing, no, don't supplicate, it's you are created in the image of God, doesn't mean you're God, doesn't mean you have any of these powers and wisdom, but you still, you were created by, so prove yourself worthy of being created, having been created. And don't cut yourself down and like for instance, one of the difference between Western, particularly, the American version of Protestant Christianity, Adam and Eve, sorry, Adam and Eve sinned, you know, the apple thing, whatever. And so now the sins of the father. And so if you look at Eastern Orthodox, so we inherit it, so we're doomed to hell unless we get baptized until we redeem ourselves and all that.
And that's like a self form diminishment. Whereas if you look at Russian Orthodoxy, you're still a sinner, but you're not born into sin. You didn't inherit the culpability from Adam and Eve, or even your dad. In Germany, you see this a lot. Well, the sins of the grandfather, he was in the Wehrmacht or whatever, he was a soldier and fought whatever for Fridler. No, you didn't do that. It's it's are we sinners? Are we like culpable in this left? Absolutely. But it's only what you did in this left, and that's a massive difference. It's almost one of the defining qualities of Eastern Orthodoxy versus Western Protestantism, that you come to this earth as a blank slate.
Whatever you do then, that's your business, and you'll have to answer for it eventually. In this life, somewhere after, in the afterlife, you'll have to answer it. So there's no free out of jail card, but you didn't, it's not Adam and Eve's thing, it's not your grandfather who was in the SS that makes you a Nazi today, or whatever
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you wanna apply this to. See, it kind of goes along with this. It's like you're you're born you're born a sinner, but you're not born sinning.
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It's it's kinda like Nature can't sin. Exactly. It's like it's like, a duck
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is born a swimmer, but he's not born swimming.
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You know? So Right. Right. Exactly.
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So there is a time, though, where when when you become conscious of right and wrong Right. And you make that conscious decision to do wrong, that's when that's when your sin
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Right. Exactly. Yeah. Finds you out. And, you know, this this is like, if you look at the elites, I mean, this is May I'm digressing a little bit, but this is something people say, how do you explain that good people eventually turn evil? And I'm like, okay, have you ever had kind of like if you're slightly kind of questionable little tendencies or proclivities? Okay, well, maybe you did that. Okay, then you stop, whether it's alcohol, whatever it's, and you stop. Whereas some people never say no to themselves. And it's just, you don't sign one time you send your soul and blood to the devil in one fell swoop. It's more like the micro decisions we make every day for years and years and years, and they add up. And if you just, if you never say no, oh, it's just one more sin, one more little sin, one more little sin, it becomes a slippery slope that gets increasingly steeper and more slippery until you just go all the way. And then like people that are like young women, so in the end, oh, my my machine's only 17, I'm 43.
No, you don't do that. You don't go there. Yeah. At least not in The United States, maybe other countries have different laws, but in The US, you can't do that. Okay? Otherwise, you go to jail for ten years. Right. And you're not gonna have a good time in prison either. What do they say? 15 will get you 20. Yeah. He's like jailbreak thing. But I mean, it's like, where do you stop? Where do you stop? And it's like the tiny one more sin, one more little step, one one more whatever, you know? And if you don't stop yourself, and a lot of people don't stop themselves and they just go farther and farther down that slippery slope. Yeah. And they may not be bad people, quote unquote, whatever that means, but they just don't know when to stop. And it's like you can test it out to a certain point, you can maybe do a little bit of sinful, you can do a little bit of this, but then you need to know where the limit is. Right. And if you don't and if you just keep keep pushing that boundary out ever so oh, just another 5%. I don't want another 1%. Eventually, there's no more stopping. And that's when the only way to somewhere, probably not pleasant. So learn how to stop yourself and understand that, yeah, you can sort of you have a certain leeway, but only so much, and you need to know when to stop.
And if you can never do that, that's, I think that's where a lot of people become weak when they, well, if you don't trust yourself to stop, then don't have that drink. Don't do that thing. Don't don't do whatever it is. Just stop right here where it's still safe at the level. Mhmm. And, I think that's sort of one way to to deal with that.
[01:53:11] Unknown:
Yeah. That makes a lot of sense, and and that's very interesting actually. And something I gotta contemplate a little bit.
[01:53:18] Unknown:
Yeah. I mean, we don't know. We we what do we know? We look at scriptures. We look at this and that, what other people have thought. But that's there's also something I don't wanna call it a noses because then that's a specific thing, but it's like a certain sense of knowing that comes directly from God. Mhmm. And again, you could be wrong, and you really need to be careful because you don't channel stuff, for instance. You can be really wrong. Oh, I got this message from the Pleiades. I'm not sure. Maybe it's just you don't mind giving you BDS.
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The Bible says to to try the spirits whether of God or not. So
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There you go. There you go. And then, you know, they tell you. I mean, spirits lie. That's why divination is considered so dangerous. Yeah. And you use spirits lies. Even good ones. I mean, look at Joan of Arc, right? She she made up all these saints, Catherine of whatever the hell, and, these never existed. And then they said that everything is good until she found herself on the you know, being burned alive at the stake. Mhmm. And it's like, or, like, if you study the work of John d, you know, back to Elizabeth the first, back in the, you know, familiar. Still talking to angels.
[01:54:21] Unknown:
Are you sure those were angels, really? Yeah. Some were like demons to me, but okay. Sometimes that's not grandma standing at the foot of the bed talking to you.
[01:54:30] Unknown:
Oh, that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I'm I do a lot of paranormal research, but I would never go into, like, an old asylum or something like that or Yeah. Don't go looking for trouble. Don't go. You're into paranormal research? Yeah. I like Yeah. I find it very interesting, but I I and I'm I'm approaching it with extreme caution, and I'm I'm mostly just observing. I'm I'm I like to hear other people's stories. I listen to things on YouTube sometimes to fall asleep. Stories of in the deep woods, how they say whatever they see Bigfoot or dog. I know what some some interesting do these things real? Are they fake? Are UFOs real fake?
Yes. I think they're both at the same time. This is why you see Bigfoot. I think people really see Bigfoot. But is it actually yes. I think when it's in this dimension, it may be a flesh of blood creature. But then the footprints end. Right? And suddenly They're gone. So it's like like a poltergeist from now. I I think shows up, and then it's gone. And I think some of these things are more like, yeah, are they real, are they imaginary, imaginal, they're all of the above and then some, but don't take them. Like this one guy was talking, he was talking to the Greys, right, the aliens. And they said, Yeah, we want you to believe in us, but not too much.
And I was like, I like that, that's cool. That's good. And I've seen those on Ayahuasca, by the way, I saw those and I talked to the shaman, they're little greys, and I saw those thirty years, some years ago in Colombia. And I asked the shaman, I said, so what are those, extraterrestrials? I said, no, no. I said, what are they, demons? I said, they're all things to all people. Essentially you have to learn other, we work with them, they can heal, but they can also kill. So use with caution. It's like a tiger could be a nice pet until it is. Like Sigfried and Roy, right? Yeah. So it's, either you learn, if you wanna deal with them, you have to learn how to control them.
Otherwise, you'll be their b h. And, so that seems to be all these things, they're interesting, they're fascinating, they're tempting sometimes, but use with caution. Yeah. This stays like a zoo animal. We look at them from a distance. Let me tell you, I got I got a I got a funny one for you. So,
[01:56:38] Unknown:
I got a couple actually I could tell you. But, the more recent one is this. There's a, I I don't I live near a cemetery, so my neighbors are really nice and quiet for the most part. But,
[01:56:49] Unknown:
that's funny.
[01:56:51] Unknown:
Right. But, I I I got one of those, SLS cameras, you know, the ones that, like, I I I would have thought of this. I would have loaded the video up and I could show it to you. But, what it does what it does is it it it it takes energy, and it puts and it puts it into, like, a little stick figure form. Oh, okay. So you get Interesting. Wow. It's very interesting, actually. Actually. That sounds very interesting. Yeah. So I was playing with the camera one day, and I I I was on my way back from from I forgot where I was coming from, but I I I pulled over by the cemetery. And, I just I was like, yeah. You know, let me let me just take a look. Let's see. Right. Right. Right. Right. So so I I I put it up and I'm I'm looking through the through the lens and anyway, it's it's picking up other things. It's picking, like, a tree and so it's putting, like, little, like, figures on the trees and all that stuff. Right. And then I I passed by this I I scanned past this one headstone.
Okay. And there was nothing else around it. It was just the headstone. No trees, no shrubs, nothing. Right. And when I passed by it the first time, it registered something standing there. So Okay. And I went back to it again, and I and I I I was recording as I was doing it Mhmm. Because I think it automatically records. So I I I so I'm doing that, and I and and I go back to it. And sure enough, there it is. It's it's standing there, and it's just standing in front of the headstone. Wow. But it was but it was very small. It was very very it was very small. Right. So, so the the cemetery is open. So I I got out of the car, and and I I walked into where that was. Right. And it was a headstone for a child.
Oh. And it was about the same height You just froze. As am I back?
[01:58:33] Unknown:
Am I back yet? Oops. What do we Am I back yet? Yeah. Unfortunately, you froze. I don't know if you can hear me. I can hear you. Okay. Actually, I think we still have Internet. Okay. Yeah. We're I'm still connected to you.
[01:58:53] Unknown:
Yeah. At least we're still connected. Oh, we're still connected? Yeah. Okay. Can you hear me? Hey. I think Okay. Now now here, you were frozen there for about half a minute maybe. Oh, I'm sorry. Okay. So you're just telling me the the the headstone and the It was the it was the size of and the other little figure? Yeah. And that was the thing that on the SLS camera, the image was about the height and the size of a child. Okay. Wow. And so that that that kinda freaked me out. But, Yeah. In the but the the the other story is this. In the fur in in the first house I ever purchased with with my wife my first wife Right. We had purchased a house from an estate.
Okay. Okay. And the previous owner was the original owner of the house. They they had both passed away. Alright. They passed, the the the the father passed away in the hospital. The mom passed away in the house. Oh, okay. Right. So we knew that going into it. They told us. They disclosed it. Right. Yeah. They need to disclose it in certain states. Yeah. So, and it wasn't like a violent thing. She was elderly. She passed away, you know? Right. Right. Yeah. Natural causes. Yeah. So so my wife and I were up in the up in the in the master bedroom. We were putting the bed together and, you know, we started making the bed. So so I was on one side, she was on the other, and there was nobody else in the house. The kids were out. They were at school, and it was just us. We were just cleaning up. And Right. And, you know, we fluffed the sheet up like that. Right. Yeah. And when it came down as clear as as you and I are talking right now Okay. A woman's voice said, who is that? Oh, you both heard that? We both heard it because when the sheet came down, we were both staring at each other. We're like, did you hear something?
Yeah. I heard I heard something.
[02:00:35] Unknown:
What did you hear? Goosebumps. Well, you tell me what you heard.
[02:00:38] Unknown:
Oh, I heard a I heard a I heard a lady's voice, so did I. Right. Which what does it say? I said it asked a question. What question? Who is that? That's what I heard too. Wow. Okay. And Well, that kinda lends a little more credence to it. Right? Yeah. Yeah. Like, I got goosebumps. Yeah. I got goosebumps. So, Yeah. Me too. Yeah. But it but it continued on. And then, a few days later, I was down in the kitchen and I was, like, washing dishes, putting things away. And, the way the kitchen was, it was kind of like a u shaped kitchen. And and behind the sink where I was standing was where the stove was and all that stuff. Right. And, I'm washing the dishes, you know. All of a sudden, I heard like that, like a and I turn and I turn around and the glass on the front of the stove of the oven is completely shattered. When that happens. Completely shattered. And I'm like, well, how did that happen? Because I didn't drop anything. It wasn't on, nothing like that. Mhmm. Mhmm. And so, I was like, oh, whatever. So I I I cleaned it up and, I ordered a new glass and I put it in.
Right. And a couple days later, I'm in the kitchen again. All of a sudden No. Crack. It happens again. The same thing. Same thing. Okay. Same exact thing. Uh-uh. Things that make you go And then, in the basement, we had, like, it was it was almost like an apartment. Like, you know, all I needed to do really was put meters on it, and it could be, like, a legal apartment. Oh, okay. So but, you know, we used it for the playroom for the kids, and, you know, I had a little home gym and all that stuff. A little office space done. Cool. Yeah. So, but in one corner of the house, there was a closet.
And that closet had the main drain for the entire house inside there. Right. Yeah. And, anytime I went near that thing, like, all the hair in the back of my neck would stand up. Okay.
[02:02:27] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. Frequently done that. Yeah. So,
[02:02:32] Unknown:
now I remember when I went to when I went to school, I went to bible school, and I and I I was if you read your bible, it always seems like, demonic entities like to hang out by Yeah. By warm, wet places. I don't know if reminds me. Warm, wet, and unclean. Unclean. Yes. Exactly. Yeah. So I was like, gee, I wonder. You know? That's that's that's that's kinda freaky. So this is what I did. Alright? And I and if if I had my bible here, I'd put my hand in my bible to to show you that I'm telling you the truth. Right. Yeah. Yeah. No. I believe it. I'm like Kamala Harris who put the purse on the Bible and the hand on the purse. Yeah. Yeah. I showed you who her god is. So, It would have burned probably a cop heart. Probably. Yeah. But, so so I took a bucket, like a Right. Like a like a regular bucket. And Right. I I took a bible, and I opened it up. Didn't matter where. I just opened it up. Right. Right. I had put it on top of that bucket in front of that door.
Okay. Alright. And I went to bed. Okay. Now my kids, they weren't old enough to kinda wander by themselves. They wouldn't go down there by themselves. They were in bed sleeping. Right. And I got up long before they did, and it was, like, I I think I put it there. It was, like, around midnight. And, I went up to bed, and I came I went down there at, like, 05:36 in the morning.
[02:03:47] Unknown:
Right. Right. The bucket
[02:03:50] Unknown:
was thrown on the other side of the room
[02:03:53] Unknown:
Okay. With the bible
[02:03:55] Unknown:
on the I didn't like the bible, did it? On the other side of the room. So I was like Right. I was like, okay. This is this is creepy, man. This is, like, really creepy. That is creepy. Yeah. That is goosebumps again. Yeah. So, I I told my wife and the kids, I said, that weekend, I said, I wanna do something. I don't want you guys here when I do it. So can you just, like, go to your sisters for the weekend?
[02:04:13] Unknown:
Right. Right. Right. Yeah. So
[02:04:16] Unknown:
they left wondering what the heck I was gonna do. Right. But I went down to the basement, and I had a video camera that had night vision on it. Okay. Right? And I I went to the furthest point of the, of the basement with my back against the wall, and I was I was facing that closet with the, with the night vision on. Mhmm. And I sat there all night. I shut the power off in the house and all that stuff. Wow. Okay. And I just sat there. I had all these battery packs, and I'm just sitting there all night with the camera on that thing and the night vision. And, I was expecting, like, I was expecting, you know, like, books to fly and all that stuff. Right. Right. Right. But I'll tell you what did happen. None of that happened, but what did happen was somewhere around 03:00 in the morning,
[02:04:59] Unknown:
the door to the closet 03:00. Three o'clock. To mark the trinity. Right? So At 03:00,
[02:05:05] Unknown:
the the door to that closet shook.
[02:05:10] Unknown:
Okay. It didn't open, but but it didn't open. But you could see it. It shook. Wow. You could actually see it. There was gonna be a shit that I don't know. See it shook,
[02:05:18] Unknown:
but it didn't open.
[02:05:21] Unknown:
Okay. And I was like trying to get out? So I said,
[02:05:24] Unknown:
I'm done. I packed up. Yeah. I went upstairs, and I was like, alright. Absolutely. Yeah. I wiped my hands of this. You enjoy that little corner you got there and just stay there. Exactly. Can you stay there? I'm I'll go upstairs. You can do what you gotta do down here. Just leave me alone. Exactly. It's Yeah. You know, but I I I'm fascinated by that stuff.
[02:05:46] Unknown:
So when you said you were No. It is it is fascinating. It's it's probably a little dangerous, but, you know, I mean, the thing you you sort of explore the outer limits of what I would probably do too, but, that's about where I would leave it. But you meant that you would be Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. You know? Yeah. I'm not gonna sit there with the thing, is there anybody here that would like to talk to me? You know? Yeah. That that yeah. That's the EVP, whatever that stuff. Yeah. I'm, I'm good to take other people's word for it. I don't need to necessarily verify that myself. Because if I hear grandma come through, I'm running. Yeah. Exactly. Or yeah. You don't know what's coming through, and that's the problem. These The heck of a bitch. Seems to be more dangerous than most of these things. But, I mean, I do believe in I mean, if you go to Ireland, for instance, people it's totally accepted that there's faith folk. What we don't believe in, we're really scared of them. And, same with, you know, if you go to, well, Islam, the world of Islam, they have the jinn, and those things, I mean, little fairies, they're not thinking about it. Those things can be yeah, no. Really scary and really evil. It's not the Disney version. They're probably not demons in the technical senses and fallen angels, but they can be downright demonic and every bit as cruel and dangerous and vicious and vile. So, I yeah, there's limits. I mean, I do it mostly vicariously through other people's research at this point because I lived in the haunted house in Miami. It was next to, a kapok tree, which is also known as a saber to the santeria Cuban culture, which is also part of the, the Maya culture, which is the same pantheon.
And, man, the the crap that I saw in that house, I mean, and and it wasn't just me. Everyone else sought to smell the tooth, smelling something or the I'm I'm done. I wasn't a believer before, but now I'm not sure am I a believer or anything, but I'm like, it's there's something to it and Yeah. Ghostbusters is a great movie, but, you know Let them do it. Don't look don't don't go looking for trouble. Yeah. Exactly. And and actually, what I wanted to say too about, like, you talked about, the grays and the aliens and all that stuff. Right.
[02:07:47] Unknown:
I've only had one experience where I've where I've I think I saw a UFO. I can't % say for sure. I was on a flight. I was on my way back from New York. Oh, an airplane. Okay. And I was on my way back from New York. And Right. I don't know. I was just looking out the window and just kinda off in the distance, I just saw something. It just went it just right past the plane. Oh, okay. You know? And it was like and I thought to myself, well, that was kinda close, you know, for for another commercial flight. And it was moving Okay. Like a Foo Fighter in the world would just Yeah. It was moving awfully fast, but it was solid though. It was like it was like a dark, like, almost a grayish black color Oh, okay. As it Wow. Right by. And I was like, well, I don't think you know, it's not a commercial flight because that's was awfully close and Yeah.
Moving really, really fast. Yeah. You know, it could have been a military plane. I I don't think so. I mean, I don't think they would get back I don't think they would do that. I don't think they would get that close either. But, but that's that's probably the only time I I ever looked at something. I'm like, maybe. But Yeah. But, had a I I had this conversation with a couple of other people too and and you know, I oh, no. We lost hold on. Oh. I got you. You back?
[02:09:07] Unknown:
May It's still on. I think it's Maybe it's because we're talking about the paranormal. Maybe the paranormal is trying to It very well could be. It's it very well could be. I'm back. Are are we together? Unfortunately, I don't do you see him? Okay. Okay. Yeah. If you can put it back on the screen. Thank you. Okay. There you go. We're back. Okay. Great. Great. Great. Yeah. Maybe maybe it's because we talked about this stuff. It's possible. Yeah. Maybe the spirits of gremlins think, you know, that gremlin, what is that, that movie from the eighties, Twilight Zone, the movie? That gremlins like John Lithgow, I think it is, and the thing is like hacking away at the jet engine and like
[02:09:45] Unknown:
as long as it's not that, I'm I'm I'm okay. Yeah. I think but I think we should probably take that as the cue to shut up and we'll end it. Alright. Okay. Well,
[02:09:52] Unknown:
yeah. Okay. Probably. Let's see. We'll wrap this up. No. It's it's fascinating talking to you. I could do this all day. Yeah. We should definitely we definitely should should talk outside the show too. I would I would really like that. That'd be a lot of fun. Okay. Great. Yeah. No. No. I I really think you you're very, very good good host. You're very fascinating to talk to. Okay. We're kinda like, on a on a We're on the same path. With the same page, I guess, or whatever. Same path. And, yeah, it's it's it's it's so good to talk to people who actually aren't broke or some some of that nonsense and the very good to talk to you, sir. Same, man.
[02:10:27] Unknown:
Folks. Thanks, man. We've been spending our evening with Orlando Owen. Make sure you head over to his website, which is, feeldifferent.com.
[02:10:38] Unknown:
And Orlando Owen Dot Com. You can also go to Orlandoowen.com. Okay. Great. So And and on YouTube, you find a very, very small fledgling channel. It's Orlando Owen Coaching. So but that's a very small channel. There's a few videos, some of them politically and so forth, inspired. But, maybe That's essentially You guys can send that over to me in a in a in a text or an email or something so I can make sure I add it to the show notes. Okay. Great. The show notes. Yeah. Yeah. We'll definitely do that. So, again, Orlando, thank you so much, man. I really enjoyed that. Likewise. Very much enjoyed that. Absolutely cool to talk to you, Joe. Yeah. Like I said, I could talk to you all day and all night, but, you know, my wife always says, can't we go back to Fredericksburg because somewhere in Texas? Texas is nice. I like Texas.
Define Texas. It's about half it's twice as big as as any European country. It is. It's huge. It is. It's a country in itself. Well Wish he wants to go back, so maybe we'll,
[02:11:31] Unknown:
find out what You let me know, and we'll we'll get together.
[02:11:34] Unknown:
Absolutely. That would be great. Alright, brother. Really good to talk to you, brother. Same here. Really appreciate that. And, Oh, I signed up on your website, website, by the way. The
[02:11:42] Unknown:
I'm sorry? I signed up on yourfeeldifferent.com.
[02:11:45] Unknown:
Oh, cool. Okay. Good. Good. Thank you. Thank you very much. Okay. Yeah. And I have to look at your stuff. So I appreciate that. That was very fun. Great. And, yeah. Thank you very much. And, hope you your listeners got a little bit out of it or something. I'm sure they get out of you all the time. So We'll we'll find out. Who's that crazy guy? Well, there it is.
[02:12:04] Unknown:
Thanks a lot, Joe. They deal with me on a daily basis.
[02:12:07] Unknown:
Yeah. That then yeah. Then they have a good good channel and a good person, a good man to to listen to. And I'm sure you have a lot of value to to
[02:12:16] Unknown:
to give to these guys, and they should be listened to. So I appreciate it. You'll learn something. Thank you, sir. Thank you. Thanks a lot, brother. So you can just pop you can just pop your camera off your mic, and you're good to go. I'm gonna say goodbye to everybody. And Okay. Yeah. Right. Right. Okay. Sure. Okay. So
[02:12:30] Unknown:
you guys know what okay. Alright. Alright. Folks, Orlando Owen, thank you, sir. Good night. Thank you.
[02:12:36] Unknown:
Alright, folks. Well, that was great. I really enjoyed that conversation. I hope you did too. And, what we're gonna do here is, we're not gonna get into the news tonight. We'll take care of that tomorrow. But, folks, thank you so much for being with us tonight. Don't forget to check us out on our website, joeroos.com. Look for all the links to the show, and we will, have this up and running on a Saturday spotlight. So folks, shout outs. Executive producers Wayne and Rosanna Rankin, producer, Anonymous Angela. Folks, thank you so much again.
Have a great night. Keep Texas independent. God bless you. Good night.
Introduction and Show Overview
Guest Introduction: Orlando Owen
Interview with Orlando Owen: Masculinity and Culture
Discussion on European Politics and Migration
US Politics and Sovereignty
Personal Stories and Emotional Liberation
Paranormal Experiences and Beliefs
Conclusion and Farewell