In this Thanksgiving-eve episode, I broadcast live from Eagle Pass and welcome Dr. Don Weber—global communication strategist, former human intelligence operative, and executive coach—for a candid, wide-ranging conversation on trust, body language myths, mindful leadership, and how to genuinely connect when speaking. Don shares gripping insights from years operating under multiple identities across 90+ countries, the psychological toll and discipline required, and the path that led him from high-stakes fieldwork to coaching leaders on strategic empathy and presence. We also dig into public speaking that persuades versus merely performs, why motives matter more than micro-gestures, and how mindfulness and self-awareness anchor effective communication—especially under pressure.
In the second segment, I’m joined by Ruben Camarillo, host of the Now You Know Eagle Pass podcast and newly announced candidate for Maverick County Judge. We talk gratitude, plans for Thanksgiving, the realities of running locally, and keeping community-focused conversations alive. I wrap with show updates, ways to support, and a heartfelt thank-you to our producers and listeners. Happy Thanksgiving—go podcasting!
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(00:00:36) Cold open: cryptic numbers and Shakespeare snippets
(00:03:45) Show intro from Eagle Pass and Thanksgiving vibe
(00:06:18) Host’s pets, gratitude, and holiday plans
(00:06:20) Tonight’s lineup: Dr. Don Weber and Ruben Camarillo
(00:11:05) Connecting with the audience and contact methods
(00:11:17) Value-for-value philosophy and supporting the show
(00:11:33) Guest intro: Dr. Don Weber’s intelligence background
(00:12:07) Icebreakers: who to have coffee with and why
(00:14:10) Unwinding routines, meditation, and tech hiccups
(00:15:08) Life as a field operative: stress, cover, and identity
(00:22:02) Managing multiple legends and protecting loved ones
(00:22:16) Transitioning out: faith, language study, and healing
(00:28:57) From intel to instructor: corporate training journey
(00:31:05) Reading motives vs. body language myths
(00:33:43) Nonverbal communication: baselining and context
(00:35:18) Leaders, ego, and seeing reality clearly
(00:35:18) Speaking to connect: authenticity over scripts
(00:36:15) Comparing political speaking styles and trust
(00:40:08) Persuasion in practice: adjusting to the room
(00:43:37) Live show curveballs: rapture joke and tech drop
(00:46:54) Building rapport before you speak
(00:50:21) Origins in internet radio and backyard banter style
(00:55:40) Live vs. pre‑recorded: energy, risk, and growth
(00:57:21) Wild moments on air: broken chairs and blue cats
(01:03:02) Handling meltdowns: strategic empathy
(01:03:59) Mindfulness and self‑awareness for leaders
(01:07:06) Faith, values, and cultural clarity
(01:09:46) Wrapping with Dr. Weber and plans to return
(01:10:41) Thanksgiving segment with Ruben Camarillo
(01:14:16) Local politics and a county judge run
(01:18:08) Holiday plans, family, and travel tales
(01:20:46) What’s next for the Now You Know podcast
(01:22:20) Audio vs. video, monetization, and growth paths
(01:27:28) Goodbyes to Ruben and local plug
(01:28:12) Announcements and producer shout‑outs
(01:34:21) How to support: producers, sats, and crypto
(01:34:58) Schedule, upcoming crypto episode, and sign‑off
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[00:03:41] Unknown:
That's an interesting twist. Mhmm. Transmitting live from the asylum studios deep in the bowels of Southwest Texas, it's the Joe Ruge Show. The show where we talk about anything and everything. Where nothing is sacred, nothing is watered down, and nothing is PC. Alrighty. Hey, folks. This is Joe Roos, and it is great to be with you once again, transmitting live tonight from the asylum studios, from the pimple on the backside of Texas, the beautiful city of Eagle Pass. And as always, doing the very best that we can to bring you the best quality talk radio we can muster without all the bluster.
Hey, folks. Welcome to the Joe Russo. It is Wednesday, 11/26/2025 at nineteen zero five hours. And as always folks, it is a absolute pleasure and a joy for me to be here with you guys. You wonder why I laugh when I say that, right? Well, you'll have to figure it out on your own. But we are excited for tonight. You know, we have Thanksgiving tomorrow, we're excited for that. Well, in some ways, we're excited for that. We're happy it's Thanksgiving, we have a lot to be thankful for, but I will be working my regular job, so, I guess I should be thankful for the job. Right?
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Alright. Now, tonight, as I said, we're gonna be joined by someone who, lives and breathes the art of communication and influence. We have doctor Don Weber, founder of let me turn that echo thing back on. There we go. We have doc doctor Don Weber, who's the founder of doctor Weber Coaching. Don is a global communication strategist, a human intelligence or human expert. And did I say that right? Human? Okay. And, executive coach who whose life tells a story of survival, reinvention, and mastery. For over fifteen years, he has worked in international intelligence operations across 90 plus countries, operating under multiple identities, and navigating environments where one wrong move could have cost him his life. And, you know, I'm not saying that jokingly either.
During his years as a US government field operative under under the George Bush administration, Don gathered intelligence across South America, Africa, Europe, you name it, working with organized crime figures, foreign agents, and volatile political networks. Don, welcome to the show. It is great to have you here. Pleasure. Thanks for having me on. Hey. So I I always like to kick off the show with a couple of, kinda like icebreaker questions or, groundwork questions. So, so who who's someone, past or present, that you would love to sit down and have a two hour coffee with, and why?
[00:12:27] Unknown:
Donald Trump. Okay. And the reason because I find him really fascinating. I mean, I know he's got this persona for the media and all that kind of thing. But, actually, the person himself I've actually met a couple people that have been with him first you know, privately for hours. And they tell me he's quite different in real life than he is That's what I've heard. Down the property.
[00:12:48] Unknown:
I I still hear an echo. Do you still hear the echo?
[00:12:51] Unknown:
With you, I don't. Do you hear an echo with me? Yeah. Let me let me take a look at something. I might be able to I I could adjust the gain on this thing. No. I don't think that's it. I mean
[00:13:02] Unknown:
okay. I think that should do it. Alright. So Donald Trump I agree with you. I think Donald Trump's a fascinating person. I've never met him. I've seen him up close when I was working in New York City a few times. I've I've seen I saw him around midtown, but, but never had an opportunity to actually meet the guy. And, you know, honestly, I would I would love to be able to sit down and have a conversation with him. Just, because from what I understand, from what I've been told, people who have met him and do know him, he's a he's a person who genuinely is interested in hearing what someone has to say, and he takes it he takes it to heart.
So, I had I had the privilege of hosting, Peter Tipton, who is a personal friend to Donald Trump. They went to military school together. He's one of, president Trump's attorneys. And, what a great guy. Had some great stories to share about about the president. It was a lot of fun. So if if, anybody listening, if you haven't had a chance to check that out, there are two episodes with, Peter Ticton, so go back and check it out. That's why we have the archives. Okay. Alright. Alright. So, what's your go to to help you unwind at the end of the day?
[00:14:11] Unknown:
Typically well, in the evenings, generally, unless I'm traveling and I have something weird going on my schedule nowadays, I do meditation practices. I do exercise every day. Usually aerobic, martial arts, and weightlifting. Okay. Not necessarily those three every day, but I do at least one of those every day. Usually two two of the three. And in the evenings before bed, I should do about a thirty minute meditation practice. Oh, that's nice. Pretty intense one, actually. That's that's good. That's good. See,
[00:14:36] Unknown:
most most people that I've I've I've asked that question to usually come back with, some kind of a beverage.
[00:14:42] Unknown:
In the old days, yeah, that's what I would have said. Yeah. Back back when I was working, with the government and stuff like that. Yeah. You might have to turn your gain up just a little bit. Turn up the sure. Just be, because you're you're fading out as you move away from the mic. Does that help? Does that help? Advance right in my face. There you go. About now? That's good.
[00:15:00] Unknown:
That'll work. Okay. And it's not obstructing anymore, so I can see it. We can still see it. You're good. Alright. So, I was reading over your bio. Mhmm. And, you have an incredible story, and and and from what the bio says. And I would love to know more about, just about everything in in your bio. But, you have worked as in I know it sounds sometimes when you say things like this, it sounds kinda cheeky, you know. Oh, you were a spy. Okay. Well, and, you've done that. You've actually lived that life, and that that has to be probably one of the most stressful jobs that I could think of, you know, outside of politics, outside of being the president or, or or or a senator or congressman, whatever it might be, a governor.
But I I think that doing that type of work has to be incredibly stressful. You're you're constantly on your guard, and it has to be draining.
[00:15:55] Unknown:
Absolutely. I mean, I never it's funny. I didn't never considered myself a spy until many years later, even though I knew what I was doing, obviously. But I never that word, that terminology, I never I didn't it's funny. I didn't really consider myself. And so many people I work with from, like, the guys from Interpol, particularly, they used to always call me James Bond, which was just a joke because, anyway, I was pretty successful sometimes in getting information we were after. Yeah. It's high stress stuff. It really is. I mean, usually, when you get in that kind of work, they kinda wean you in. They don't just, like, dump you in the middle of some I don't know, Central Africa and say, we're looking for an arms dealer. Go get them. You know? Figure it out. Right? You you generally, it doesn't work that way. They usually kinda wean you in so you gradually kinda get the hang of things.
[00:16:36] Unknown:
Now you've done now you've done this for you've done this in over 90 countries. And, I guess, I I probably should've let in with the question is to talk a little bit more about what you do now. Because the question that I had for you is, you know, what did what did the years that you spent in in in human intelligence teach you about human behavior and trust?
[00:16:58] Unknown:
A lot. Yeah. I would say, you know, as a youngster, I wasn't maybe the most confident person in the world. And I was pretty smart, but not very confident. But and as a result, I developed certain skills for, like, manipulating people. K. If you're very good at it. I didn't hurt people, like individuals and stuff like that, but I was good at manipulating situations. And that's actually why I ended up landing the job because they look for a certain profile for a person that can actually do do what needs to get done. So I went from that. Okay. I got involved with the government work, which I got better at as time goes on. And and there's a lot of other elements I can share with you as well that are just beyond bizarre that are without explanation.
Now a lot of very interesting characters I work with during that period of time. And then around 2010, about the second year that Obama, was president, I got out of it because things changed tremendously. The administration the Obama administration, they really weren't taking care of their people. Mhmm. At least our people. They weren't watching our backs and all that kind of thing. So many of us actually came to some conclusions, so we we got out of there because they said it was it was, I saw more than one person get killed. I'm very close, you know, kind of stuff. So if you're living that kind of thing, you wanna make sure somebody's got your back. You know? You might get killed anyway, but you wanna it just makes you feel better knowing that I've got people behind me kind of thing. Not like, hey. You're on your own. You're in the middle of the jungle in Venezuela or something. And, yeah, if it goes wrong, well, don't worry about it. It's gonna rip you apart, you know, and pieces or something.
[00:18:31] Unknown:
I would I would I'd again, though, I'd to to me, I'd just just the idea of, like, I know you I know we can't really talk about some of the things you and operations you were involved with and and whatnot. But, just the just just the stress level that you have to be under in order to to well, you you you you're you're guarding out for your personal life, you wanna, you know, you're trying to keep a cover, you're trying to to to gather information and report the information back, And at the same time, you know, you have to worry about the people closest to you as well, your family, your friend, you know, people that, you know, you deal with on a personal level. How do you handle that? I mean, how do you how do you work your way through that type of a stressful occupation?
[00:19:17] Unknown:
Well, I probably should explain the background a little bit. Before I start started a friend of mine from Israel, that worked already in those kind of services. He told me, you know, don't do it. It's a great life. You're not gonna like it. You're gonna be very unhappy. And I went for it anyway. Basically, it's I didn't really have that much of a personal life. At that point, I pretty much had to cut off everybody, including family Mhmm. For their own protection. Right? I would imagine. Yeah. Or because I was dealing with some really, really nasty people. I mean, really nasty people. So cut that off. I was living under assumed name for better part of thirty years.
And then on top of that assumed name, I had other names. Oh, wow. So let's say your real name is Joe Rose, but maybe we say that, your name is Jonathan Decker. Right? And you're gonna be Jonathan Decker for the next twenty five years living in a foreign country or living abroad. Right? And that's who you are. You got school, and it's it's got a good what they call legend, a good history, all that kind of stuff to back it up. And now we're gonna go to John Decker, and we're gonna say or Jonathan Decker say, we're gonna say, well, we've got a little project for you in that North Africa. And you're now you're going to be Francois Jean Francois blah blah blah whatever. Okay? Okay. Boom. Here's the ad support. Learn all the material. You need to go to this country, North Africa. You're gonna meet so and so, and you're gonna do whatever. Or the objective is to do whatever. Right? So you're gonna be Jean Francois maybe two, three years, maybe five years. At the same time, you're Jonathan Decker. You get me? So when you're in North Africa, you're, Jean Francois. And when you're back home, you're Jonathan Decker, and Joe Russo doesn't really even exist.
I mean, it exists on paper. Right. Yeah. No. I understand. But it's it's a way that you can really assimilate the the living a lie or living a tell the best lies you need to believe them. Okay. And you need to assimilate them. And it takes some it's some mental gymnastics to be able to get there. It's not something you do in, like, one week and you say, okay. Yeah. Now I'm Jean Francois and, you know, all that kind of thing. It's not it's not that simple. No. I got it. But that gives you layers of protection. So it protects your loved ones. Mhmm.
Is your lay a level of protection of maybe what country you're actually from. Obviously, there's some things you learn about maybe these languages and accents and all that kind of thing and background and knowledge that you can come across as you're a different from a different part of the world. Okay. Pretty useful. I understand. Which brings down, suspicion.
[00:21:44] Unknown:
Mhmm.
[00:21:46] Unknown:
Now and now now transitioning from that type of a lifestyle to get into when when you came out of that service, did you have a hard time with, with transitioning into, I guess, we would call it civilian life, in my previous, so what what was that like? How how hard was that for you to adjust and and and to get into something like you're doing now, with with, with coaching and and and and the speaking engagements that you have and the leadership programs that you offer?
[00:22:17] Unknown:
It was kinda like leaving like, living in Disneyland or, like, a movie. Mhmm. And then when you get out of it, you you really start really realizing I mean, you realize at the time, but you really start realizing, wow. That was really crazy. Mhmm. Like, that you know what I'm saying? I was involved in that kind of thing. Right? So there's a huge emotional and psychological transition. I became acutely interested in in in God and in I can say religion per se, like, organized religion, but in God, let's say. Mhmm. So I I started studying deeply biblical texts, and then I decided, you know what? I would actually, if I'm gonna read the Bible, I read read it in Hebrew, Aramaic, and the original languages.
So that was a big learning curve for me. Oh, sure. Still still a labor of love I'm still working at, but huge interest. Huge interest. I can't under understate that. And it's not like I'm saying, oh, I was born again or I had other, spiritual awakening. It wasn't that. It was just something in me that just wanted to change. All those years, I'd really live for myself, my ego. I spent my life, Joe, lying. That's that's what you do. Yeah. I mean, I would sleep with women that would fall in love with me, and I was just there because I wanted their phone records or I wanted whatever.
You know what I'm saying? And then sometimes you feel bad you would feel I feel bad about it, but it's the job. Right? Yeah. And was it, you know, the ends ends of the means. I mean, people would say, okay. People that are trained in The US and intelligence services or whatever, government agencies or whatever, we're, you know, we're not supposed to sleep with people and all that kind of stuff. Well, the reality is not that way. Way. I would imagine you have to get the outcome.
[00:23:53] Unknown:
Yeah. Well, I was gonna say, I you because you have to build that relationship, and and eventually, at some point in building the relationship, it's gonna it's gonna, progress to that to that point. And if you didn't act on it, you know, I'm sure it would become very suspicious at a certain point. You know, what's going on here?
[00:24:11] Unknown:
Right. And people, what they don't understand is, okay, maybe you have, let's say, intelligence officers, which this is no secret, work in the embassies. Right? Mhmm. They have a different standard of how they can operate, what they can do and can't do. Right. But the people in the field and then you have different classifications. You have people like me that are expendable. So I could get away with basically bloody murder and do whatever needed done to get in order to get get what needed to get done done. Right? We had other people who had to behave by higher standards, but their hands were tied. I gotcha. So it's it's, and unless the public doesn't understand how that
[00:24:46] Unknown:
And when you say being expendable, I'm I'm sure I'm sure that that has other meanings as well. I mean, that be because of that particular level, as being someone who's considered expendable, if something did go down negatively and you were taken out for it, whether it was through legal means or illegal means, it would be
[00:25:05] Unknown:
just He's not one of ours. He's not he's not even an American man. What are you talking about? Yeah.
[00:25:11] Unknown:
Not even Americans. That I don't know. I don't know if I'd be able to do that. You have to I guess, like, you're you're a prime example, I guess. I mean, you'd have to have a certain mindset and a certain way of of, being able to process that. I I don't know if I'd be able to do that. Yeah. I I really don't. That's why they hire people with certain psychological,
[00:25:28] Unknown:
tendencies or whatever. You have to have a little bit I always use the word psychopathy. It's Greeks people out when I say it, but you have to have a certain amount of a little bit of a personality disorder. A little you gotta be a little nuts straight up. Yeah. I guess so. I to do this. I mean, because if not I mean, you have really, like, strict moral, ethical codes. You're not gonna get much done. I mean, you have to have some some basic stuff. Right? You have to have, like, clarify. Okay. These people I tell the truth to and I don't lie to who who are my minders or my keepers. Right? Government. Right. And these other people, I can do whatever what I do whatever I need to do to get get the get it done. And then maybe I get people in the middle or foreign government intelligence agencies that we're collaborating with, but my loyalty there is not a a 100%. Right. Yeah. Although you develop relationships with people, and that's really freaky. So you become really close to somebody, and you know maybe something bad is gonna happen to them.
[00:26:22] Unknown:
Can't say anything. You can't do anything about it, and that sucks. That's that's a hard that's a hard pill swallow sometimes. Oh, I I I don't know how. I'd man, I I don't know if I'd be able to do that. I I really don't. And I I gotta give you credit for for for devoting so much of your life to it, you know. And I don't know if if it's appropriate or not, but say thank you for your service. I I, you know, it's it's it's it's I don't know. I really don't know. But how did how did your experiences in in in working in that line of work bring you to what you're doing now?
[00:26:57] Unknown:
Okay. So I said I I moved out of that. Right? About 2010, I got out of it. Mhmm. And I had a series of incredible challenges, surprising challenges that I went through. But I I don't know. I just it wasn't based on challenges. I just had this really strong interest in in in understanding the creator better or whatever as much as possible as a human being. Mhmm. Also, I had a couple illnesses, almost died because I got attacked. I had my head skull my cracked my skull cracked, and it was part of work. And then another one I got a couple times anyway. Both times the doctors told me, you know, what?
You're real lucky to be alive, and the other one was like, I'm not sure you're gonna make it, man. Oh, jeez. So I think those kind of things kinda wake you up. You know? You have a big usually, people don't change unless they have, like, some major something happens in their life. You know, you hear people that say we'll use this story like a of the alcoholic. Right? Yeah. Yeah. I wanna stop drinking. Because they know they need to stop drinking. They know it's bad for their liver. It's bad for their health and all that, but they're not gonna do a damn thing until something really major happens in their life that maybe maybe wakes them up to make that change. Right. Yeah. And I think that's true for any for anything in our lives that people are more involved in.
Maybe it's not so good for us. So, anyway, I there was this strong, spiritual component to it, and I can't underestimate that. And then the training thing, I was in India in 2014 looking to find myself, but then I found out I was there all along. That was a joke. I gotcha. Anyway and I I was taking some courses up at teaching as well, IIT, which is like the Indian Institute of Technology. Mhmm. It's very high. It's their most prestigious university. It was at Delhi and and and Mumbai, and it was outside of my government works after. And, they offered me a teaching gig, and I did some teaching for them. And I really enjoyed it.
And but I didn't stay because the compensation in India, of course, was it wouldn't compensate the the standard of life I would be accustomed to. Not not even close, actually. I see. So Okay. That didn't work. But I came back to Europe, and I there was a immediate need with, somebody to teach public speaking at the Ministry of Agriculture. And I filled that need. There was a slot that was needed. I guess they like to work. There was somebody there from IBM, and then I got hired as a corporate trainer for them, which I say this, part time like a freelancer part time. So I worked for them for about six, seven years. Okay. Several months out of every year, and they kept me quite busy. And because of that, then other major Fortune 500 companies started picking me up for doing trainings. I'd be maybe here for three months and there for two months.
And in the course of that, I worked with thousands of from very senior CEO level to middle managers. And a lot of these people I got to know. I spent a lot of time one to one with them. So I've learned a lot about human, about people and problems that normal people have. Mhmm. When I was in the old world, let's say or in the intelligence world, I understood people. I understood what I want to know what's your motivation what's the motivation of this person? What's this person after? What's their what's the what's the end goal? I'll give you a quick one that most people that surprised most people. I I could generate trust, a mafioso
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Okay.
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Or, say, a terrorist even, more than sometimes, other intelligence officers or police. Why? Because the or the terrorist, I could identify generally what their what their real motive was. Okay. So I knew where they were coming from. The intelligence officers or sometimes the foreign police officers, I didn't actually know what the real motive was. Did they want the bust? You know what I'm saying? Did they wanna make they want the collar? They wanna make that? Mhmm. Or did they have some other little game that they're playing behind? This is much more complex with those people. Much more complex. So K. The big thing back then was figuring out people's motives, and body language stuff was basically you can just you can identify people.
You can identify people who are feeling comfortable or uncomfortable. That's basically it's that simple. It's not so simple to say, oh, I can tell this guy's lying because he touched his nose, or I don't know. You cracked the scratched his ear or whatever. Yeah. That's that's bogus. And there are people out there that train, body language that were interrogators for the US government, and they're very good at what they do, some of them. And then what they do is they spend all their time interrogating people in a controlled environment, though. Though. Right. Interrogation room.
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In the wild, wild west, it's a little bit different. Yeah. I I I remember when I went through, my training when I went to work for investigations, we had to go through the interrogation and interviewing technique programs and trainings. I mean, they made it seem so simple, you know, you know, in a classroom it's simple. You know, when you're actually out there in the field doing the job, and actually sitting there with somebody, say, even if you're in an interviewing room, you know, and you're sitting there with with the the person you're interviewing and maybe their representative, it's it's not the same not quite the same thing, you know, as what you're getting in the classroom. There are those little tricks and stuff don't always work.
And, you know, and and some people don't. Like like you you said, you know, touching the nose or playing with the ear or fidgeting, you know. It doesn't always necessarily mean what they tell you in the classroom either, you know. Some people have nervous ticks just naturally. Like, I have one. It drives me crazy, and I try to control it. For some reason, I chew the inside of my mouth. It's just Alright. It's that it's just I've always done that, you know. Right.
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But yet in an interviewing and interrogation program, they'll say, well, he's hiding something from you. You know? I'm very well could be. Because it well, they're not baselining the person, and it's harder to baseline somebody in an even a job interview. Right? If you're trying if you if you've got somebody in the interrogation room, their their defense is up. They're feeling they're not probably feeling more warm and fuzzy and happy to be Right. Right? Yeah. So you're dealing with a very artificial situation. Companies that will do interviews and they use, like, body language experts to do analysis. What you would do is you'd bump in I might be sitting in the waiting room for the interview Mhmm. Next to them, have a chat with them Yep. Get to know them, get them relaxed. But enough time so I have a feeling what this person's like, Then they go into the room for the interview. And then on camera, it's easier to now identify the differences in because I've had a time to speak to them in their natural state. In the interrogation room, it's not it's not that way. Yeah. And in the field, usually, you get to spend more time with people so you get a better feeling for what what they're what they're all about.
Yeah. And if they drink alcohol, that's a very useful tool because people tend to slip and say things that and you have to let you'd be very observant, listen very carefully to what people are saying, how they say it, what words they emphasize, when they pause. All those little things can give you clues into
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what their mindset is. But, again, you're identifying comfort and discomfort. Now how much how much communication would you say is nonverbal, and and, you know, what are some of the common mistakes that leaders make, in in trying to understand nonverbal communication?
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Well, they probably have prejudices or stereo stereotypes, and they just think this means that.
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Okay.
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It doesn't. Right? So the the traditional one are arms crossed. Right? Well, it could be. It depends on the temperature in the room. Mhmm. Also, women, they tend to like to cross their arms more for obvious reasons because of physiology. Right? So that doesn't necessarily mean well, although female's doing that, yes, maybe she's a little bit defensive, but it doesn't mean I'm, like, hiding something necessarily. So I think leaders, a lot of times, they don't pay a lot of it. They don't pay that much attention to I'm gonna say male leaders don't pay that much attention to body language.
When I run into and this this is a trip. A lot of your high let's see. People really important people, their egos are so out of balance with reality. They're to some degree, they're out of touch. I see. So they they're they're very charismatic. They come across really nice, but they already have preconceived ideas about stuff, and they're not maybe seeing really what the real what the real situation is. And I can tell you from firsthand experience as a coach or trainer, I've seen that numerous times. Both in the political and privacy.
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Now as as a coach or a trainer oh, and and and and for doing the, you know, public speaking and and and such. And your experiences, what separates speakers who talk from speakers who can connect?
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If I'm connecting, I'm talking to you. If I'm talking, I've got this thing memorized, and I'm just up there just to vomit out the information I know. Right? Okay. If I'm trying to connect with my audience, that's that's the key thing, and it's actually from from the heart. You need to be selling a product or selling a service or communicating an idea I believe in. That's fundamental. Mhmm. Right? So I should really believe in what I'm trying to transmit. And that's why a lot of politicians get into trouble because a lot of them are saying stuff they don't believe, and it comes across as fake and phony. Unless some politicians have to do the same trick where they convince themselves that what they're saying is true. Mhmm.
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I think, I think, a good example of that is, one of our former presidents, who talked a great game, you know, spoke a lot. Which it could be. Yeah. Just might be. Yeah. Yeah. Obama. He, you know, he spoke a great you know, he had he had a great way of expressing himself. He was great at public speaking. You know, he was able to rile up a crowd, but it it but none of that stuff. None of that rhetoric was really from the heart. Yeah. And and sometimes you could tell. You know, sometimes you could see it. Things that I picked up on was when when he was lying, which was most of the time, he would stutter and stammer more than, than when he was speaking truly from the heart.
It's like he was trying to find the words to speak or say, or maybe it wasn't on the teleprompter, and he was trying to ad lib it. And then you have someone like, like like, president Trump who I honestly I I honestly believe that everything that comes out of this man's mouth, if it's not on the teleprompter, that's his real heart. That's his true heart. You know, I I just get that sense from him. But it's interesting when you look at the the the two styles of of of speaking between those two men. I I don't include, Joe Biden because I don't think Joe Biden knew what he was saying in the first place. But, but you look you contrast those two, and you could see the difference in in the rhetoric, and I don't use the word negatively. I'm just what what they're saying, you could tell that who is really in like, when president Trump says that, you know, he is looking out for the American people. He's looking out for America first.
I believe him. I I believe I I believe that he's that that he truly, deep down inside, wants to, see America back in the leadership role that it that it had held on to since World War two, and, and I I believe that that's his intended goal. And I I lost my train of thought where I was going with that. So I trust him more, like I I I'll listen more to what he has to say, and and put my trust in that. Now, are there things going on right now within the administration that did not necessarily seem like America first? Yeah. There there are. I'm not I love I love president Trump. I do. I think he's done a great job. I'm not thrilled with everything. I mean, and I'm not a sycophant. That's why, you know, so I can I can I can pull it out and say, no? No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No Exactly.
But, but on the whole, I I trust him. You know? I I because I I honestly believe that what he is when he's talking about American exceptionalism and American excellence, that he means it. That's what he wants, and that's what he wants to see.
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That's what I see this I see the same. I mean, if you look at Keir Starmer, who's a prime minister of The UK Mhmm. People don't know. Keir Starmer is oh, they call him her stammer starmer. He's, but he lies all the time. I mean, he's just a he's he's a compulsive liar. It's amazing. Yeah. And it's not because I don't agree with his politics. But the fact is with Trump you you at least with Trump, you can say his actions match his words. Yes. Whether you like his actions or not, okay. Fine. Another issue with the other. He does what he says he's gonna do. He doesn't do okay. Obama and I've been around many of politicians in Europe. They some of them have this great ability that they can deliver a speech or talk to a group of people, and they can say two things at once. Mhmm.
This is a talent. So they're delivering two messages with one one conversation to a group of people. Yeah. Obama had that ability. Yes. And I I dissected I've I've got a I've got some videos here. I've dissected the hell out of an I'm a plan actually, I've actually made video. I haven't edited them, but I wanna produce them. I want to publish them. And it's tricky stuff, and I've seen other politicians sitting right next to them doing this in Europe, members of the European parliament. It's amazing. The ability to do that's something it's a skill I don't have, personally. And I do public speaking. But Right. Be able to deliver,
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say something that has a double meaning. And I think what we're we're we're we're really talking about here is is another question that I had for you about, you know, like, what separates somebody who's who who's just simply speaking and someone who connects and persuades?
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Again, it's it's from the heart. So if I'm talking to a group of people, I'm looking for people in the audience I'm connecting with. And if I notice let's say it's a big audience. Maybe okay. Let's say a couple 100 people. And I'm looking at these people, I'm looking to see if I'm connecting. And if I'm not connecting, I need to change my tactic. Maybe I need to speak more slowly, more quickly. Maybe I need to put more emphasis. Maybe I need to change the topic.
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Adjust it something somehow. Right? You have to be fluid.
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Yeah. Yeah. You need to know really know what you're talking about so you can do that. But, I mean, it is it is true that you there are audiences that are very difficult to to connect with, but that's very rare. That's very rare. That's just usually a cop out. It does exist, maybe one in a thousand. But Right. Generally speaking, you have other people's interest at heart. People can feel if you actually like them or you care about them or you have their best interest in heart. They can feel that. And they can also feel if you could care less and you're just there because you wanna sell them whatever, convince them whatever because you're out there to benefit yourself. Right. You know, kind of Yeah. And then you have stupid people that'll believe whatever. You know? Right.
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No. I I know that, like, from my experiences in in public speaking, and, like, we talked before the show. I told you I I I used to preach. From I I I served an associate pastor in a church up in New York, and, you know, I I would I would I would I would regularly get up at the pulpit, and I would I would talk to folks, and, you know, and I tried to connect as much as I possibly could, with the people that were there. Now, I've I've spoken to to small groups like 25, 30 people. I've also spoken to 400 and up, you know, at at other, services and such that I I took part in.
And one of the things that I've always liked to do, and and I I I saw something in in your in your bio that that, that that you you mentioned as well, is is is using someone's name. So what I would do is if if there was somebody in the audience that I knew personally, that I knew well, I would call on them. Like, I or I would kinda might poke some fun at them, you know, and and and they knew that it was just part of the, you know, it's just kinda to break down the barrier, you know. And, like I would say, you know, you know, there was one time I was I was preaching, and I was like, and I said something, and it was like, it was talking about I was talking about the rapture, and and I was saying that, you know, you know, if if the Lord decided to rapture us out of here right now, I wouldn't care. I I I wouldn't even have to finish the sermon, and, and somebody said amen.
You know, and and I jumped on that. It was it was my friend George who was in the audience, and and I said, you see? Look, even George likes to and that made everybody laugh, and you know, and it kind of brought the tension down that was already there, because I was a guest speaker really, and and, you know, so a lot of the folks that were there didn't really know who I was. I think we lost you froze. Donnie, are you still with us? I think we lost Don for a second, so let's give him a chance to pop on back here. Alright. You just messaged me. Let me But I don't know what happened. That's okay. No idea. That's fine.
Sorry about that, guys. Maybe I thought it was the rapture. Yeah.
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I I teach people when, like, public speaking, when things get to the room early and talk to members who are gonna be in the audience. Mhmm. Try to develop some rapport with them. Like, especially if it's a cold audience. You don't know. So when you so when you're standing up speaking, at least you've spoken to them, and then you can the audience will feel more connected if you're looking at these people in the eyes. Right? But a lot of people are afraid of public speaking, so they don't wanna look at the audience in the eyes. But if I spoken to half a dozen people privately, and I had a good experience with them, then it's very easy to look them in the eyes. Right? Yes. And it kinda makes you feel more confident what in what you're doing. Of course. Yeah. I can tell you funny stories about that not working out, but anyway.
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I think I think we all could. One of the one of the tricks that I would do, if I didn't have an opportunity to really meet people, prior to getting up and speaking, I I I would make it a point though, I would scan the room, and I would look for a friendly face. You know, maybe somebody who's listening and they're smiling at something that I said, or or they look really interested in it. And I would kinda in a way talk to them, you know. And still scan the room, but I would talk to them, to that particular person, and I would never I'd never look them in the eyes though. I always I I found a spot on the forehead that I would look at, and it made it look like I was looking you in the eyes.
Okay. Because of the distance, you know, I was from from them individually. So it it looks like I'm looking at you directly, but I'm really not. I'm looking over you. I'm looking at your forehead or something, until one person that I knew that that was there pointed it out to me. I did it at not that event, but another event, where I had some people there that I knew, and he was like, you know, keep on looking at my bald spot. And and and he he shouted it. Now, I don't know if you've ever been to a Baptist church. I mean, but that's common in a Baptist church. They Oh, yeah. They they tend to do those things. But, but, you know, I turned around and said, well, if the light wasn't glaring so much off of it, I wouldn't have to look at it.
You know? Kind of turned into a joke and it worked. It it broke it it melted the ice, so to speak. And it was it was interesting, but it's so true though, you know. You know, it's it's it's you get to know your audience, you get to talk to them a little bit, you know, beforehand. It it does help. It really it truly truly does. And and and that's that's something that, you know, I don't I don't really see a lot of people do at these functions and events. Like, I've been to a few things where there are people that the, you know, like like, what do they call those things? Like conventions. Right? Where you have you have a guest speaker coming up there, and they just come up on the stage, and they don't they don't know who anybody is. And man, they go at it. They they just get right into it, and it seems so robotic, and so un like, no connection to it. They get up, they speak for for thirty minutes, forty minutes, whatever it might be, and then they're off, and you don't and they're gone.
But that personal connection that you make with somebody, I think that's that's key. You know, I, there are things that that you've talked about and and I've read about you that, I I like to try to do with my audience, that I I try to catch I I see myself doing from time to time, and I'm not perfect at it, but, you know, I try to. I I like to I like I want my audience to feel like, hey, you know, we're we're we're we're we're buddies here. You know, we're doing that, you know, we're doing this together. We're going through this. That's why and and when I tell them at the beginning of the show or the end of the show, I that I look forward to spending my night, you know, hanging out with whoever it is that's watching. Like, I don't have a huge audience. I have like 10 people watching right now on Rumble. But, you know, I don't have like like live numbers aren't huge, but I'm still connecting with people, and because my because the the downloads later show it, you know. And and the little comments and feedback that I get shows it, you know. And and it's important. I want people to feel like this is their show just as much as it is mine. I want them to be involved in it, And, you know, I I don't sometimes I hope that it comes across sincere, because I it really is. You know, I do want everybody to feel like, hey, we're just a couple of it's a bunch of people just hanging out, you know, just shooting the breeze, talking about whatever it is that we're talking about. And, you know, enjoy the time here, you know, and, get more involved in the show and stuff. And I try to bring that out, and I'm I'm hoping I do. Now you've seen a couple of shows that we've done. What's your assessment? Do you think it's legit? Do you think? I think it's completely legit. I wouldn't be on here if I didn't. Oh, look. Awesome. Thank you.
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No. And and you're a very good conversationalist. You you have you have a pleasant voice. You have good resonance when you speak. You're interesting. You're engaging, which is actually not that common.
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Oh, thank you. Honest. Sociopathic. You know? It needs one of those things. I thought in fact,
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I I I really didn't straight up, I really did enjoy. In fact, this is gonna sound a little bit weird. I was surprised you didn't have, like, more followers and more things for the quality of product
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that you produce. Well, that's on me. Because I because I because working working the forty hour a week and then trying to do the show as as often as I do, I don't have a lot of time to, to play on the social media stuff and and and to interact that way. So that's where I'm lacking, and I I got, you know, I was talking to Angela who's, one of my producers. And, you know, we talked about that today. That that's something we could target for next year for '26, you know. Get more involved in the social media, try to get more involvement here, and grow the audience, and publish ourselves, and and put ourselves out there a little bit more. You know, I've been doing this sorry.
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I'm sorry. You're very good. You really are. Thank you. Legitimately. Question, do you have experience doing radio or
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I I started doing this back I started doing this back in 2016 before it was called podcasting. It was, it was Internet radio. Did a I had a a a week a once a week show, a live show with, with two of my buddies up in New York. And, it was mostly political opinion and talk, but it wasn't serious. Like like, we we talked serious stuff, but we spent more time joking around and poking fun at it. You know? And it was a good balance. We had I I was the more conservative voice on the show, and then you had my friend Jay, who was the the the big time liberal on the show. And then we had the actual the studio owner that we use, because he was actually a professional studio. His deal was, you know, just, you know, let me come on the show, you could use the studio for free. So so he he was there, and, he was our libertarian voice. So you had the three you had this you had the three spectrums right there, and we would and we would get into it. We would we would argue, and and bicker, and complain, and and, you know, yell at each other, but, you know, at the end of the day we were buddies, you know, after the show was over, we had got a beer, had some pizza, and it was good. You know, But one of the best compliments that we ever got was, somebody actually, put in a because we were on three different, Internet radio networks, I guess you would call it. And so we were we were broadcasting across all these different streams at the same time, and we had access to like live chats and things like that.
And, one of the best compliments we ever got, and I'll I'll never forget it, was that they loved listening to the show because they felt like they were hanging out in the backyard with a bunch of the guys drinking a beer just bullshitting. That's what I'm trying to do. That's and that's exactly what we wanted, and that's, you
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know, that's what I'm trying to do here. So It's a great formula. Yeah. Well Maybe if you look at, like like, Joe Rogan, let's say. Right? One of the biggest. Right? It's very casual. Mhmm. They're speaking. There's no, like, pretentious,
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like, weird vibes and stuff like that. It's Right. And that's exactly what we're trying to do here. And, you know, so we'll we'll get there. I so I started in 2016, 2017, somewhere around there. We did it for about a year, and then I moved here to Texas. And at the time, you know, technology wasn't like this at that time. So it was hard to do a remote show, so Right. We kind of let it go. And then, you know, I kinda put it aside for a little while, and I came back to it, about four years ago. I did a another show, which was just strictly bible study. That's all it was. I mean, I threw my little political opinions here or there, because honestly, not not to sound preachy or anything like that, but you know, if if you're really gonna understand what's going on in the world today, you gotta read your Bible. Because your Bible talks about all this stuff.
You know? 100%. The Bible is the is the greatest political history book, political history and science book you'll ever get. You know, it covers all things because the main theme of the bible is I mean, salvation is in there, and it's it's important. I'm glad it's in there, but the main theme of the bible is government. Who's going to run who? You know, and you you gotta if you gotta follow that. So, if you wanna really understand what's going on in the world, read your bible. So I so I did this bible study show for for about three years, you know. Had a had a pretty decent had a pretty decent run with it, but I I came down with what I call preacher's block.
So I I got to a point where, and they're gonna have the writer's block, I had preacher's block. I I I was in the middle of doing a study, and I just hit a block, like I hit a wall. I was like, I don't know where to go with this at this point. So So I said, I'm gonna step back a little bit. I'm gonna take a break. And while I was taking the break, and I was like, you know, you know what? I think I wanna do something outside of the bible study. So may maybe I'll do this. I'll I'll just do this like whenever I feel like it. Pre recorded podcast, you know, whenever, you know, whenever I have time.
And that didn't last very long, because I love to do this. You know, I love I love this interaction. I have met so many incredible people doing this format of a podcast. People that I never would probably met in my entire life like yourself. I've I've hosted I've hosted, Nobel Peace Prize nominees. I I've hosted, politicians. I've hosted authors. I've I've hosted a wide paranormal investigators. I've hosted so many different types of people on this show. People, again, that I never probably would have met any other way. And every show that I walk away from, I've learned something. You know? And to me, that's that's amazing.
I love to do this. If I could if look, if if I if I had the money, and I was able to do this every single day, just this alone, and devote the time to the preparation, the promotion, and and building this thing, yeah, I would do that in a heartbeat like that. You know, because I love to do it. It's a To me, it's a lot of fun. Yeah. It has its stresses. Yes. It has its aggravations, and you know, cancellations, and and tech problems, and glitches, and goofs, and whatnot. But it's it To me, this is an an incredibly amazing experience that I would never wanna give up and walk away from completely and say, I'm done with this. You know? No. I can't. I love this. This is a lot of fun.
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It's way cool, man. Way cool. I mean, they have a hobby I mean, at this point, I guess it's a hobby because you have a job. But Mhmm. If you can turn your hobby into a profession, that would be
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amazing. That's my goal. That's my goal. You know, I I invested a lot of a lot of my own money into I built this. A I I bought a house. After my divorce, I bought a house, and I took this one room in the house, and I made a studio out of it. I have the whole, you know, everything in here is mine. You know, I the only thing the only thing I did not buy in here is the chair that I'm sitting on. That that was that was actually a gift, from from a listener. That because I it was funny. I was doing the show and, the chair broke while I was doing the show. And and it just it like shifted. And I was like, I guess I gotta get a new chair. And then, I got an email through the website.
Somebody asked me how they can, you know, help out with that and and, okay. Here. And sure enough, I got, like, a chair showed up. So I was like, alright.
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Outstanding. So, you know For the reason I'm laughing so much, I was doing a Zoom call once with the the Ministry of Defense in Spain. So I have, like, eight or 12 people on the now it's like 12 people on the thing. And, I was sitting on this wooden chair. I was I was traveling. It was like a wood iron chair, so I'm seeing her do my thing, and the chair broke. And, literally, they're watching me, and all of a sudden, they watch me fall. Just like So you know what I'm talking about? Face and I had the thing recorded so I could see their faces.
[00:56:09] Unknown:
Anyway, yeah, I can appreciate that about cheer breaking. Yeah. No. It's it's it they and that's and that's why I always say that's the things about doing a live. And that's the reason why I like to do live shows. I don't like doing pre recorded stuff. You know why? And I'll tell you why, because if if and people listening don't know, because I've I've said it before, but when I do a when I do a pre recorded show, I get lazy. That's how I know myself. I get lazy. I won't I'll I'll do it later. I'll I'll I'll let you know. Or I am so I'm picky. So I'll I'll stop and start. Stop and start. Stop and start. Back and forth. Back and forth. It takes so much time, and then, you know, when you do it live, man, if I mess up, I gotta fix it right there. I gotta keep moving. You know, it makes and it I feel like it makes me a better broadcaster.
So, or podcaster, how how you wanna say it. And, the there's a even though we have low numbers that are that watch the show live, there's a different energy when you're doing a live show. Completely different energy. And, it's a lot of fun, you know. It because again, you never know what's gonna come up. You never know what's gonna happen, and you gotta learn how to flow with it and make it work.
[00:57:20] Unknown:
And that's why I like doing it. Yeah. I love it. What what's the what's the if I can ask you this. What's the craziest thing that's happened to you? Because I know you've done a lot of shows. Yeah. What's the craziest, like, thing that has happened to you on a live show?
[00:57:33] Unknown:
The the day that I interviewed a blue cat. Yeah. Blue cat? Yeah. A great guy. I love him. And as a matter of fact, he's gonna be on the show again in a couple of weeks. So I I I started using this service called PodMatch, which is like Tinder for podcasters, you know. So, you get you you set up a profile, and you, you know, and and it matches you with with guests. And swipe? Yeah. Yeah. Basically. Yeah. It's it's match or pass, you know. So so, so, you know, you you go you get you get like a bunch of matches to your profile, you go over their profile, you say, okay, well, is this for me? Is this not for me? Pass, or maybe later, or something like that. And, so, this guy came up and it had a very interesting profile. I saw the blue cat on the on the on the profile because that's his alter ego on the show that he's been doing for many many many years.
But I wasn't expecting to come on the show as a guest as the blue cat. So I'm so I'm getting no no. It was a cartoon character. It was like like like like a like a computer graphic, you know, image. So, so when when the show started, I was going through the whole thing, and I'm thinking to myself, alright. So it's gonna be interesting, you know, because on the on the guy's profile, there's like no pictures of him whatsoever. Everything is all just the cat. So I'm curious what the guy looks like, you know? To see if the see if the face matches the voice, because I I listened to a couple of shows that he did. And and a a friend of mine said after the show, he he he text me. He goes, I wish you could have seen the look on your face when the camera turned on and it was a blue cat.
He goes, you you look like you didn't know what the hell to do at that point. And, he was right. I was I it threw me off. It caught caught me off guard totally. And it was crazy. But, that's that's probably one of the more funnier things that that take a place. I mean, I've I've had I've had people that had meltdowns on the show, like like got really like hostile. And, you know, it's like, I don't I don't try to provoke people to get like that. I don't. I just I like to have conversation. But, I've had a wide range of stuff. Again, like I said, I've interviewed authors, and probably one of the more fun ones we had was with, Paranormal Investigators. They were podcasters also. They have a podcast great podcast called Creepy Coffees.
They, we had a blast, man. We just told some great stories back and forth, and a lot of lot of fun. I like that stuff. It's it's interesting. I I had people on the show that we talked about, zero point energy. You know, fascinating to me. I mean, I don't know much about it. I learned a hell of a lot on the course of the show. You know, so we cover a lot of ground. We do a lot of great things. I love the conversations. I do. It's it's And again, like I said, I never would have met a lot of these people without doing this type of a format, the long form interview format. It's just something that, you know, I I just love it. I can't help it. You know? And I'm being serious. I'm not like, I'm not trying to just stoke for viewers or anything like that. I'm I'm I truly do. It's a When you said you had somebody have a meltdown, was it you got did you guys get into politics?
No. No. It was it it had to do with, it had to do with, well, it it had to do I guess I guess you could say, had to do with religious background and and and positions. And, you know, I'm Yeah. I'm a Baptist preacher, you know, and and and I will, you know, every now and then throw it out there, and and, you know, ask the questions, you know. But with with this particular guest, I I didn't do that because I knew where they stood on on their their beliefs, and, but they just, you know, for whatever reason, just went after me. And when somebody actually emailed me and, that was Angela, actually, my producer. She emailed and said she couldn't believe, you know, the just the hostility that came out, and and she said that, I I she was really impressed with the with the amount of grace that I that I showed in in in not losing my cool over it.
But, you know, it it it was one of those It was just, you know, it was one of those things. And, you know, it's I'm I'm sorry that it happened the way it did. It didn't need to, but it did. And, you know, I don't dynamic kind of energy type thing. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. I think I think a lot of a lot of that has to do with that. I I, you know, I don't know. I don't wanna talk bad about them either because, you know, because they're they're good people. And, you know, we had we had a great relationship up to that point. You know, we we would speak regularly.
And, you know, there there wasn't the first time they came on the show. They've been on the show many times. So, it was it just, like, out of nowhere. It just caught us off guard. But it, you know, those things happen. Those things happen. And you just gotta learn how to roll with it. And that's what again, the the joys of doing a live show is, how do you deal with that? You know, if you were recording it, you would hit the stop button and say, hold on a second. You know? Yeah. Right. And back it up. Let's talk about this. Right? Yeah. Let's get back on track here. But no, this is this was just like that. Notaneous. Yeah. No. It it just happened. But that but that's again, when you do how do we get on this subject?
[01:02:59] Unknown:
I mean, we talk about difficult con well, I could tie it back into coaching, like, difficult conversation. Supposed to be about you, not me. I mean, what I I would train somebody and say, okay. Right. You got somebody who's freaking out or melting down. Right? Well, just go pretty much just what I call strategic empathy, where you just list let them talk. You listen to them. You don't strategic empathy is not that you agree, but you're just letting them know I understand what you're saying Yeah. Listening to you until they get worked through whatever they're working through.
[01:03:27] Unknown:
And then you figure out the best way to deal with it. And then there's different strategies to Right. But what I'll do is actually Maybe maybe not. I'll I'll find the link to that show, and I'll send it to you so you can take a look at it. So you see what I'm talking about. So Okay. Yeah. That that would would be great. But it's it was it was fascinating conversation. It was really it's all of a sudden just like that. Just flipped. And, I'll tell you more about it later because there there's there's more there's backstory to it too as well, but that's not something for for the audience to have to go through. Okay. Yeah. I I I'm curious to know to know more of that. Yeah. I'll definitely let you know. But you know what? Our you know, we didn't get to half of the stuff I had for you. Our my next guest is, is waiting in the wings here.
I do wanna I do wanna get to one thing though. The the last question that that I that I I mentioned to you earlier that that was going wanted to ask you about was, mindfulness and self awareness. So so what what role does mindfulness and self awareness play in communication, especially when you're talking about leaders, people in high pressure, situations? How how does mindfulness and self awareness play in their communications?
[01:04:33] Unknown:
It's everything. It really is. And I'm talking about in in in the work working for an organization, a company, whether private or or public. No. I'm not talking about what I used to do. Right? Yeah. It's everything. Because if you don't if you're not self aware, how can you even have an emotional intelligence? I if I can't if I don't have the empathy to be able to put myself where this person's coming from or why they're feeling that way and be able to identify that Right. I mean, I need to first have a strong understanding of myself and my own faults, my own prejudices or stereotypes, and and and what are my values and beliefs and so so it's like, okay. What am I feeling? Why am I feeling this? Okay. Great. Now I gotta put myself, my ego aside so I can deal with this situation with this person.
It's critical. And then we're talking about mindfulness awareness. That's just being in the moment. And I in my case, it's really having a relationship with god. If I was a Buddhist, it probably would be, you know, doing hours and hours of meditation and fasting and stuff like that. I I I would think. But it's a matter of just being in the moment and not letting yourself get taken away. A lot of times we get it's like a wave from the in the ocean. You get you get swoped up in it. Right. Not letting that happen. Just letting you know, saying, okay. Soon as you realize that you're getting, like, overtaken by whatever's happening around you and saying, hey. Separate.
Detach. Because what's happening around me is not actually part of me. It's not really I gotcha. Part of me. You know? And if and if people they I we people nowadays, I think, well, they always happen. They identify so much with their body and the way we look and the way people perceive us and I gotta be liked, and we've got this double world that we're in the world, who I am and the way I want people to see me. And that creates tremendous stress. And when there's a bigger separation between how I want people to see me and who I really am, that creates a lot of stress. So when those two things are closer, you're dealing with a person who's actually psychologically much more healthy, one. Gotcha. Two, being able to live slow yourself down to be in the moment. So if some bad thing is happening, somebody's freaking out, they're having a meltdown, whatever, being able to detach from the situation so you can best try to help them or or deal with it. I mean, there are certain criteria. Right? I have the old thing is, like, who's a bigger fool? The fool or the person that argues with the fool? Right. When I'm talking to a fool, I'm not gonna argue with them. It's just no point. But if I if that's not the case, then maybe I want and I wanna try to help the person in some way or try to understand where they're coming from, why they're saying that, why they're behaving this way, whatever. And as a leader, that's critical, especially in the organization. If they have talent, and that's when your top engineers or when your top employees, I mean, you know, you gotta
[01:07:06] Unknown:
Yeah. No. That make that makes a lot of sense to me. So what I'd like to do is, though, I'm gonna I want you to come back on the show, probably after the New Year, when you have some when you have some time, and, cover some more ground. There's a there's a lot that I really wanted to get into with you. And, let's see. So I know you do, some training. Right? You have classes that you teach, and most of them are free. Correct?
[01:07:30] Unknown:
Yeah. Some of them. Some of them. Some of them. Yeah. I do a lot of free work too. Yeah. Okay. And, so
[01:07:38] Unknown:
so, who is someone that you respect right now? What are they doing that inspires you? Someone that I respect? Yes. Or or somebody that that inspires me? Well, no. Somebody that you respect, and what are they doing that inspires you?
[01:07:52] Unknown:
Okay. Somebody that I respect, and what are they doing that inspires me? There's a number of people. I'm thinking more political people, but I'm trying to think of somebody who's not political.
[01:08:04] Unknown:
Could be political.
[01:08:06] Unknown:
A lot of the I'm gonna say the within the Christian and even the Jewish community Mhmm. Because a lot of you know, they're really going for the Saturday people. I mean, what's happening there is just disgusting. And, also, as far as the the Christian community as well. So Yeah. I agree. So people who are able to stick to their values, not being dogmatic and stuff like that, but stick, you know, stick to what the Bible says. You know? Let's not, like, people trying to rewrite it. I mean, that that drives me crazy. You know? It's like the Bible says certain things. Certain thing not everything, but certain things are pretty black and white. It's written real clear. It's not like you know? I don't know. I agree. I don't get you know, it's like either I'm either I'm a man or a woman. I don't get to be both. I'm sorry. It's it's not worth it. Yeah. I I totally get that. Politically, completely incorrect what I said. I realize that. But That's okay. That's that's the whole point of this show is politically incorrect. So it doesn't matter. And if somebody chooses an what I call an alternate lifestyle, okay, good for them. Mhmm. Whatever.
But you don't get to, you know, say, well, that's okay with God because it doesn't really say that in the book. No. It doesn't. It's it's it's pretty clear. It is is pretty clear. No. It's pretty clear. So, So, I mean, it's not it's not for me to judge them, and maybe they can have a relationship with God and stuff like that, but they shouldn't say, oh, it's okay because I'm living this alternative lifestyle lifestyle, and everybody should do the same. So, I think a lot of the people who are preaching, the people who are trying to keep the good word, and whether being Jewish or or Christian Mhmm.
Keep up the good work because it's very, very important for us to go in the right direction. Okay. Because the dark forces are definitely here, and they are working overtime.
[01:09:43] Unknown:
Totally. Working. Hopefully, we agree with that. Alright. Doctor Weber, where can we go where can we go to find more about you and your work?
[01:09:51] Unknown:
You can go ddrwebbercoaching.com.
[01:09:54] Unknown:
Outstanding. And I know we do we do have that in the show notes, so that'll be available to everybody. They can click on that when it's available, when the show is uploaded, and, to the audio. And, so doctor Weber, again, thank you. Appreciate it, man. I really really do appreciate the conversation. It was a lot of fun. And, I'm gonna I'll send you the links and everything after the show, and then we'll set up something for for January to have you come back. Sounds great, man. Alright. Thank you. Enjoy the rest of your evening, and have a wonderful Thanksgiving. Thank you. You too. Happy Thanksgiving, sir. Alright. Take care now. Alright. Thank you. Alright, folks. Doctor Don Weber. What a conversation. That that did not I didn't get to anything really that we had ready for him, but we just just just kinda took off with that, and I think that was fantastic. I really enjoyed the conversation.
Alright. Let's see. We have sitting here waiting for us right now. I'm not gonna take the break. I don't have to go pee pee. So, we're gonna we're gonna bring in, Ruben Camarillo from the Now You Know Eagle Pass podcast. Ruben, what's going on, buddy? What's going on, Joey? There's that echo again. Glad to be here with my good friend at Not Joe Ross. Joe Rose. Joe. Joe Roos.
[01:11:00] Unknown:
I was I was not at my good friend, Daniel.
[01:11:04] Unknown:
So so, Ruben, man, thanks again. I yeah. I know we we we kinda touched up a little bit, I think it was yesterday or the day before yesterday, about, about just jumping on here. What I really wanted to do was I I wanted to have, like, just a a little bit of a, you know, a a a what are you thankful for kind of segment to end the show because, you know, tomorrow is Thanksgiving. And, you know, I couldn't think of anybody else better to have on the show to talk about those things than my buddy over here. I appreciate it, man. So, you know, I I I I let me start with this one because, I'm I just wanna say this. One of the things I'm really thankful for, there there has been much that that, Danny has, done that made me thankful. I'm kidding. I'm just teasing. I know he's watching. That's why I'm saying it. But, but, you know, one of the things I am thankful for is that he actually introduced us together. I think I think, that was a great connection.
And, I just want I just want to tell you to your face that I appreciate what you're doing with your show. I think you're doing a spectacular job, and I'm really excited for what you're gonna be doing for next year. So, so so thank you very much. And for jumping on the show, man, like short notice stuff, man, I you rock, buddy. Oh, thanks, Joe. No. I appreciate it. The pleasure is all mine, man. You know what? It's it's
[01:12:17] Unknown:
it's good together. It's good to get together and have these kinds of conversations, especially, like, as two podcasters. You know? And and, yeah, I'm the same thing. I'm very thankful that, you know, Danny brought us together. I had no idea that you were out there. You had no idea I was out here, and and look at that. Boom. You know? We got we got something going on. And, I think this is a good thing for the community, you know, to to get a get get ourselves out there and because you got a really good show going on. Thanks, brother. Oh my god. My yeah. I I absolutely love it, and I'm just touting it out. You know, letting people know about it.
[01:12:51] Unknown:
Great speaker. You know what I mean? Very thankful for that, man. So it's it's I've been a big fan for sure. I well, I gotta say the same thing. I I I I check been checking out your shows, and, I gotta tell you, man. I don't know. The next, the next big thing on on the horizon there for you, pal. Yeah. No. Definitely.
[01:13:13] Unknown:
It's already it's already if we're talking about my candidacy for county judge, man, that's Yes. I was gonna I was leaning into that. Thank you. Yeah. It's, it's it's been wild already, man. I haven't even started yet, and already the politics are are out there. I can imagine. Oh, yeah. Big time. But you know what? I have lots of good friends and family, and, I have a lot of good, you know, sup a good support system. You know, inner circle is very small, but, that that's all you need is just that support, to keep you going. We got a good team going on here, and, you know, we're gonna bring a change to the county, man. We're gonna bring try and lower taxes, get that escrow down, you know, if we can. You know what I mean? And, Got a lovely letter yesterday from my homeowner's insurance. They're increasing my, my premium.
Oh my god. Are you serious? Yeah.
[01:13:57] Unknown:
Oh, man. That's alright, though. Because, today I went shopping around, and I I found a new insurance company. So they're actually saving me about, I think, almost a $100 Oh. Off the current premium before the increase. So that's good. That's cool. Okay. Okay.
[01:14:12] Unknown:
But, yeah. We got it. So so you you officially accepted the, the nomination here, and you're, you're you're building your campaign? Yes, sir. Yeah. Absolutely. It's gonna be, you know, we we have a good team going. And, man, I gotta tell you, it was it was nerve wracking, you know, that I just putting my my pen to that paper. One of our one of the donors, from Texas, it was it's called Project Red. What they do is they, they donate to register any Republicans to, you know, to to join in another candidacy, know, just to get more Republicans going, especially when you're in a Democratic stronghold.
Even though it's not about red and blue, obviously, that's what my I want my campaign to be. The the this but the the story I wanna get to is so I get nervous when someone's watching me write. And I I don't know why, man. Like, you can, you know, there's not a lot of things that can shake me up. But when someone's, like, watching me, you know, and I'm just, like, you know, and then my hands start, like, getting tensed up. I'm like, man, you're you're causing me to to to write like a 12 a four year old man. Come on, man. Yeah.
But, yeah, it was a really it was a last minute kinda thing, that they they didn't have a Republican candidate. And, you know, my my good friend, Sandy, the Republican chair, had flagged me down while I was at the mall. You know, we're just gonna go fix my son's phone. And then all of a sudden, she's like, I I and for the media purpose, I was like, hey. Where's your Republican candidate at? What's going on? And she's like, well, I have a few. And I said, well, we're just the one for a county judge. And he said, oh, well, g m. It's not that's not that didn't work out after all. Mhmm. And then there was just total silence. And I'm looking at my wife, and my wife's shaking her head.
And then she's like, well, why don't you run? I was just like,
[01:16:01] Unknown:
no. Your wife knew that was coming. That's why she said that's why she was shaking her head. She's like, no. Don't do it.
[01:16:07] Unknown:
And because she knew. She knew. And it's that's like like I said before, that's something that I've always wanted to do of, everybody always asked me, why would you put yourself through this? You know, I I love politics. I grew up I grew up, you know, when when I was 18 years old, I took government, and we've we've had this conversation before. It was enlightening. And ever since then, I've been into politics, and now I have an opportunity to lead and to be able to make this county better and to, you know, think of the families in this man in this county that have been living here longer than I have and and hope that I can be affected and do something for them, you know. Well, that's good. We're gonna hold your feet to the fire, buddy. Hey. Go for it, man. Alright. You're ready? It's already on the fire, man. It's already there. Well, we'll we'll we'll keep you on the level.
[01:16:52] Unknown:
Of course. We, but but for the folks that are watching that that maybe not familiar with my show, we don't I don't really dip into the local stuff, you know. That's I leave that for him because he's the expert on that stuff. I I I like I like the broader spectrum of things, you know. So it it's, it's a but it's but it's a but it's great though. But it's great though to where's the echo coming from? Where's the echo coming from? Oh, is there an echo? Yes. Uh-oh. Like, it wasn't there a minute ago. It wasn't there a minute ago. Uh-oh. Hold on. Are we good now? Let me see. It's coming on my end. Oh, there it goes. Okay. Uh-oh.
I got it. Okay. We're good. Yes. That was weird. I heard myself. So what's going on here? Are we being hacked? You know what? I wouldn't be surprised, man. I I I honestly wouldn't be surprised. But,
[01:17:47] Unknown:
telephone. Sorry. It's my, God call. It's probably my my blue I probably need to turn my Bluetooth off. Like, actually, my son was actually messing with my Rodecaster earlier. He wants to podcast. So Oh, that's right. Yeah. You mentioned that. Yeah. He did. Yeah. So now all my settings are jacked up, and that's the first thing. I'm like, hey, don't mess with the settings, and there we go. So Yeah. That happens. So so, so what what are the plans for Thanksgiving, buddy? You know what? We did have Thanksgiving dinner just a little while ago. As you can see, I'm in my, you know, my I don't well, I I I like to dress nice too on regular occasions, but, you know, I'm You're in your four inch fast bastard.
Yeah. We had an early Thanksgiving dinner, early with the family, and, you know, I I I have to work tomorrow morning. So Me too. I'll be working the holiday, and and sometimes you just gotta you gotta adjust, you know. Sure. Sure. I'll be working tomorrow too. I was telling our previous guest, doctor Weber that,
[01:18:37] Unknown:
I have a little turkey for me and the kids, and you know my kids, the dogs. So I have a little turkey for me and the kids, and, so I'll be when we finish here, in about ten minutes, I'm gonna go run and start getting that thing ready because I have to work tomorrow too. So it'll be, so I don't have to do too much when I get back. So it'll be fun. Looking forward to it actually, you know. I I did it last year, did the same thing, you know, small little thing and just just for us. It was a lot of fun, you know, just me and the kids and, you know, afterwards we got to fight over the bones and no. I'm kidding. Of course. Rolling rolling around the floor, you know, the three of us fighting over the wishbones. But, You you ever go out of town for for Thanksgiving? Or not re no. It's been a bit. The last time I went out was, two years ago, I went to my sister's, up in New York. And, that was fun. That was a that was a, thirty six hour road trip between with with me and the kids in the car, and driving from Eagle Pass to New York and back. That was a lot of fun.
[01:19:34] Unknown:
Oh, okay. But,
[01:19:36] Unknown:
but, yeah, no. I I couldn't do it this year. It's just not that I didn't wanna see my sister. I didn't. But the, the idea of actually getting in the car and driving for thirty six hours didn't exactly appeal to me. Yeah. No. That that's I've done I've done it so many I I think I made the drive about eight times, maybe 10 times, and, you know, back and forth. And so the idea of having to do it again just didn't resonate with me, and I'm and I I can't take them on a plane. So they're they're too hyper to go on a plane. So that that would be absolute death right there. So Oh, yeah. So that's that. So it's just be us just be us gonna roll on the floor and fight over the chicken bone the turkey bones, afterwards.
[01:20:24] Unknown:
Hey, man. There's
[01:20:26] Unknown:
nothing like Thanksgiving when you're spending time with family, whether they're furry That's right. You know, or, you know, your family members. Absolutely right. Family members. So, so what's on the horizon before I let you go for, so you enjoy the rest of your evening with your family? So what's on the horizon for, Now You Know Eagle Pass? Are you still gonna be able to do the show if, if you're in position as a county judge?
[01:20:47] Unknown:
The most definitely not. But I I will find someone else. I will find a successor. So, I mean, we we we we we've been thinking about that for a while. You know, my my management team, my my producer, Veronica, they all asked me, like, what are we gonna do with the podcast? And, you know, if you do win and you are elected, obviously, like, I can't be a county judge here and be on the podcast, but, no. We'll definitely find a successor. We we we just wanna keep it going. And who knows? You know, it's, it's we have an entire year to think about it. So on top of that, on top of campaigning and on top of, you know, getting things geared up, we're we'll we'll find somebody. Understand it. Alright. Well, anything I can do to help you out with that, you just let me know, you know, whatever I can help you. You got it, man. Absolutely. And we definitely wanna share, you know, the Joe Root Show on the on the podcast channel so we can get some more viewers in and get everybody enlightened on what you talk about and Please.
[01:21:46] Unknown:
Get the word out there, you know. Yeah. We need we need we need a little bit of a boost. But, actually, we're doing alright, you know. Actually, but we're Oh, you're doing great. I think you're you're the audio, you know, the audio platform is is
[01:21:57] Unknown:
is gangbusters is what I'm seeing. So all the downloads and stuff. Right? Oh, yeah. I have, we're actually
[01:22:03] Unknown:
coming up on, 20,000 downloads.
[01:22:05] Unknown:
There you go, man. You know, sometimes podcasting is the, you know, we you appeal to the the odd the the video audience, and then you, you know, you appeal to the the the, the audio audience. So the audio audience has been here before the the video audience. So For sure. Yeah. Yeah. Definitely have a bigger following on the audio, than the music. Absolutely. And and it's, like, before I let you go, like, that's why I love the radio. Yeah. You know, I would never when I was working with the radio station here, I really didn't wanna be live on Facebook because you when I was a kid, you you wanna it it kinda takes that mystique away. You know what I mean? You wanna kinda know what the voice looks like behind the mic. Yeah. You know? And you're just kind of imagining your your your your mind is just wandering. So,
[01:22:48] Unknown:
you know, that's the same thing for podcasting. And then reality sets in. You got an old man and, you know?
[01:22:56] Unknown:
But, yeah. You know, it's just it's like almost like when COVID happened and then, like, everybody was wearing a mask and, like, you're trying to figure out what their face looks like. And then when you take the mask off, it's totally different than what you thought it was. Yeah. It's pretty freaked out. So that's why, like, when COVID ended Put the mask back on. I was trying to, like I recognize you from your eyes, not your face. That that was just
[01:23:16] Unknown:
yeah. It was pretty that was pretty wild. The eyes the eyes and the voices. Yeah. That's that's about it. That's how you do it. Yeah. Yep. Pretty much. But, but but, you know, it's it's what it is. I I love the idea of doing radio and, like, and you know this. When I first started doing this show, it was strictly intended just to be audio. Like, Like, I wasn't really planning on doing video, but we ended up getting suckered into the video stuff, and and here we are. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But it's funny because, you know, I was actually talking with, with Angela today, about a couple of different things, like things about monetizing and and, and and charging, you know, fees, and booking fees, and things like that. And Yeah. And, and, you know, whether it do you need to have a video cast to be successful, or or audio, whichever. And it there's like a divide. It's like a fifty fifty divide that I've seen so far. You have some people to say, yes, you need to do this, you need to charge. I I I came across somebody that that actually charges guests over $2,000 to be a guest on their podcast.
Oh, wow. You know, and then at the same time, and and and he'll tell you, you need to do that. That's how you generate res revenue, and if your podcast is big enough that, you know, you can attract someone that can do that, that's great, you know, so on and so forth. But you need to charge, you know, folks to do this because then you're gonna get the serious guests. You're gonna get the people who are really invested in what they're teaching or preaching or or or or publicizing or publishing, whatever it might be. And then you get the other people that say, no, you can't do that. Don't ever do that. That's that's inappropriate. That's wrong. You shouldn't do that.
[01:24:49] Unknown:
So so what do you do? You know? You know, it's like, what do you do? Yeah. It's definitely but you have to make something. I mean, that's I mean, yeah. It's our passion to do podcasting and to to interview people and and give the audience a broad spectrum of what people's stories are. I mean, that's the art of it. Mhmm. And on top of that, I mean, you have a business to run. You know what I mean? And, I know damn well Joe Rogan is not doing his podcast for free. You know what I mean? So if you're good at something, just never do it for free, I guess. You know? But I I, on the other hand, just like you, we were starting out. We're not Joe Rogan yet. We're not, what's his name?
Von? What kind of the other podcaster that interviewed Donald Trump. I can't remember what his name was. He's a comedian. Oh, yeah. I I know you're talking about it. I can't think of it either. Theo Von. There you go. Theo Theo. Yes. Alright. Yeah. Theo. Over evil. We're not as big as that yet. So that's why, like, I never really took a cent from any of my sponsors when I had them. It just money was there. I have a regular job,
[01:25:51] Unknown:
but it would be nice. Yeah. Sure. It'd be nice to offset some of the expenses that you have to pay. Have to cover it out of pocket. I mean, it's Yeah. It's almost personal. Like a street card cost money. We all know that. Shh. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Drop we dropped one. Oh, I did it earlier too. I said bullshit. So that's alright. Okay. That's alright. Let's let's see if Apple let's see if Apple slaps the e on this on this episode because I used the word twice. Oh, okay. It's crazy. Alright, Ruben. I know you wanna get back to your family, and I don't wanna keep you too long. Thank you for jumping on here. Like I said, the reason my my motivation was to tell you to your face, thank you for all the support and all the help you've been since we met, and love working with you. I'm looking forward to what we can do, see what kind of damage we can do down the road.
[01:26:37] Unknown:
Absolutely. Absolutely. Like I said, you know, this isn't the this isn't the end. We're still gonna we're still gonna do the podcast. We're still, you know, as I'm campaigning, and it's gonna be kinda weird because, I mean, yeah, I can't I can't promote myself on my podcast, but I can, like, promote other candidates, like, everybody. Mhmm. Everybody is welcome on the podcast. And if they wanna put their message out, for this election cycle, it's great. You know, I can just talk about myself. You can come on this podcast and then talk about your campaign. They perfect.
Perfect, man. That those are my thoughts exactly. And Alright. Again, I'm thankful for you too, Joe. Thank you so much for,
[01:27:11] Unknown:
you know, I feel like you're kind of a mentor to me. So, I mean, it it's great, learning more on the horizon of podcasting. Thanks to, you know, hanging out with you and doing this kind of stuff, and it's been great, man. I appreciate it. Awesome, brother. Thank you so much. Have a happy Thanksgiving. My best to your family, and, I'll talk to you, next week. You got it, man. Alright. Take it easy. God bless you. Have a great night. Ruben Ruben Calamillo from the Now You Know Eagle Pass podcast. Make sure you check him out on Fakebook. You can check him out. Also, he's on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, all those places. Check him out. Great stuff. And, you're gonna learn something. If you're really interested, especially if you're local, if you're really interested in local politics and the local scene, he really has his finger on the pulse of a lot of the stuff going on around town here. So, if you really wanna check it out and get more involved and get to know more about it, that's the place to do it. So check him out, the Now You Know Eagle Pass podcast, and, you're gonna you're gonna know a few things about Eagle Pass. So and, some good, some not so good, but you're gonna get a straight deal with Ruben and his crew. So make sure you check them out. Alright, folks. I think, let's move on here really quickly to Pro HVAC r Solutions.
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[01:35:50] Unknown:
Until we meet again.
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[00:03:41] Unknown:
That's an interesting twist. Mhmm. Transmitting live from the asylum studios deep in the bowels of Southwest Texas, it's the Joe Ruge Show. The show where we talk about anything and everything. Where nothing is sacred, nothing is watered down, and nothing is PC. Alrighty. Hey, folks. This is Joe Roos, and it is great to be with you once again, transmitting live tonight from the asylum studios, from the pimple on the backside of Texas, the beautiful city of Eagle Pass. And as always, doing the very best that we can to bring you the best quality talk radio we can muster without all the bluster.
Hey, folks. Welcome to the Joe Russo. It is Wednesday, 11/26/2025 at nineteen zero five hours. And as always folks, it is a absolute pleasure and a joy for me to be here with you guys. You wonder why I laugh when I say that, right? Well, you'll have to figure it out on your own. But we are excited for tonight. You know, we have Thanksgiving tomorrow, we're excited for that. Well, in some ways, we're excited for that. We're happy it's Thanksgiving, we have a lot to be thankful for, but I will be working my regular job, so, I guess I should be thankful for the job. Right?
Okay. I I stand admonished. Very good. Very good. Alright. I am thankful that I'll be working tomorrow, but, got a nice little thing planned for me and the kids, you know, for Beanie and Chuck. We're gonna have, have a little turkey for them that I'm gonna get set up. We're gonna have a, an herbs de Provence citrus turkey tomorrow, for the kitties. And then, of course, you know, the usual trimmings and fixings and stuff like that. That's really more for me, you know, my fat ass. But, yep. It's all good. It's all good. And we're gonna do that. It's gonna be the three of us, and we're excited about it. Well, I'm excited about it. I'm sure they are too, because they're gonna get a nice dinner out of it. But then again, you guys know this, I feed them very well. Between roasted chickens, and pork chops, and steaks, they get the works.
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Alright. Now, tonight, as I said, we're gonna be joined by someone who, lives and breathes the art of communication and influence. We have doctor Don Weber, founder of let me turn that echo thing back on. There we go. We have doc doctor Don Weber, who's the founder of doctor Weber Coaching. Don is a global communication strategist, a human intelligence or human expert. And did I say that right? Human? Okay. And, executive coach who whose life tells a story of survival, reinvention, and mastery. For over fifteen years, he has worked in international intelligence operations across 90 plus countries, operating under multiple identities, and navigating environments where one wrong move could have cost him his life. And, you know, I'm not saying that jokingly either.
During his years as a US government field operative under under the George Bush administration, Don gathered intelligence across South America, Africa, Europe, you name it, working with organized crime figures, foreign agents, and volatile political networks. Don, welcome to the show. It is great to have you here. Pleasure. Thanks for having me on. Hey. So I I always like to kick off the show with a couple of, kinda like icebreaker questions or, groundwork questions. So, so who who's someone, past or present, that you would love to sit down and have a two hour coffee with, and why?
[00:12:27] Unknown:
Donald Trump. Okay. And the reason because I find him really fascinating. I mean, I know he's got this persona for the media and all that kind of thing. But, actually, the person himself I've actually met a couple people that have been with him first you know, privately for hours. And they tell me he's quite different in real life than he is That's what I've heard. Down the property.
[00:12:48] Unknown:
I I still hear an echo. Do you still hear the echo?
[00:12:51] Unknown:
With you, I don't. Do you hear an echo with me? Yeah. Let me let me take a look at something. I might be able to I I could adjust the gain on this thing. No. I don't think that's it. I mean
[00:13:02] Unknown:
okay. I think that should do it. Alright. So Donald Trump I agree with you. I think Donald Trump's a fascinating person. I've never met him. I've seen him up close when I was working in New York City a few times. I've I've seen I saw him around midtown, but, but never had an opportunity to actually meet the guy. And, you know, honestly, I would I would love to be able to sit down and have a conversation with him. Just, because from what I understand, from what I've been told, people who have met him and do know him, he's a he's a person who genuinely is interested in hearing what someone has to say, and he takes it he takes it to heart.
So, I had I had the privilege of hosting, Peter Tipton, who is a personal friend to Donald Trump. They went to military school together. He's one of, president Trump's attorneys. And, what a great guy. Had some great stories to share about about the president. It was a lot of fun. So if if, anybody listening, if you haven't had a chance to check that out, there are two episodes with, Peter Ticton, so go back and check it out. That's why we have the archives. Okay. Alright. Alright. So, what's your go to to help you unwind at the end of the day?
[00:14:11] Unknown:
Typically well, in the evenings, generally, unless I'm traveling and I have something weird going on my schedule nowadays, I do meditation practices. I do exercise every day. Usually aerobic, martial arts, and weightlifting. Okay. Not necessarily those three every day, but I do at least one of those every day. Usually two two of the three. And in the evenings before bed, I should do about a thirty minute meditation practice. Oh, that's nice. Pretty intense one, actually. That's that's good. That's good. See,
[00:14:36] Unknown:
most most people that I've I've I've asked that question to usually come back with, some kind of a beverage.
[00:14:42] Unknown:
In the old days, yeah, that's what I would have said. Yeah. Back back when I was working, with the government and stuff like that. Yeah. You might have to turn your gain up just a little bit. Turn up the sure. Just be, because you're you're fading out as you move away from the mic. Does that help? Does that help? Advance right in my face. There you go. About now? That's good.
[00:15:00] Unknown:
That'll work. Okay. And it's not obstructing anymore, so I can see it. We can still see it. You're good. Alright. So, I was reading over your bio. Mhmm. And, you have an incredible story, and and and from what the bio says. And I would love to know more about, just about everything in in your bio. But, you have worked as in I know it sounds sometimes when you say things like this, it sounds kinda cheeky, you know. Oh, you were a spy. Okay. Well, and, you've done that. You've actually lived that life, and that that has to be probably one of the most stressful jobs that I could think of, you know, outside of politics, outside of being the president or, or or or a senator or congressman, whatever it might be, a governor.
But I I think that doing that type of work has to be incredibly stressful. You're you're constantly on your guard, and it has to be draining.
[00:15:55] Unknown:
Absolutely. I mean, I never it's funny. I didn't never considered myself a spy until many years later, even though I knew what I was doing, obviously. But I never that word, that terminology, I never I didn't it's funny. I didn't really consider myself. And so many people I work with from, like, the guys from Interpol, particularly, they used to always call me James Bond, which was just a joke because, anyway, I was pretty successful sometimes in getting information we were after. Yeah. It's high stress stuff. It really is. I mean, usually, when you get in that kind of work, they kinda wean you in. They don't just, like, dump you in the middle of some I don't know, Central Africa and say, we're looking for an arms dealer. Go get them. You know? Figure it out. Right? You you generally, it doesn't work that way. They usually kinda wean you in so you gradually kinda get the hang of things.
[00:16:36] Unknown:
Now you've done now you've done this for you've done this in over 90 countries. And, I guess, I I probably should've let in with the question is to talk a little bit more about what you do now. Because the question that I had for you is, you know, what did what did the years that you spent in in in human intelligence teach you about human behavior and trust?
[00:16:58] Unknown:
A lot. Yeah. I would say, you know, as a youngster, I wasn't maybe the most confident person in the world. And I was pretty smart, but not very confident. But and as a result, I developed certain skills for, like, manipulating people. K. If you're very good at it. I didn't hurt people, like individuals and stuff like that, but I was good at manipulating situations. And that's actually why I ended up landing the job because they look for a certain profile for a person that can actually do do what needs to get done. So I went from that. Okay. I got involved with the government work, which I got better at as time goes on. And and there's a lot of other elements I can share with you as well that are just beyond bizarre that are without explanation.
Now a lot of very interesting characters I work with during that period of time. And then around 2010, about the second year that Obama, was president, I got out of it because things changed tremendously. The administration the Obama administration, they really weren't taking care of their people. Mhmm. At least our people. They weren't watching our backs and all that kind of thing. So many of us actually came to some conclusions, so we we got out of there because they said it was it was, I saw more than one person get killed. I'm very close, you know, kind of stuff. So if you're living that kind of thing, you wanna make sure somebody's got your back. You know? You might get killed anyway, but you wanna it just makes you feel better knowing that I've got people behind me kind of thing. Not like, hey. You're on your own. You're in the middle of the jungle in Venezuela or something. And, yeah, if it goes wrong, well, don't worry about it. It's gonna rip you apart, you know, and pieces or something.
[00:18:31] Unknown:
I would I would I'd again, though, I'd to to me, I'd just just the idea of, like, I know you I know we can't really talk about some of the things you and operations you were involved with and and whatnot. But, just the just just the stress level that you have to be under in order to to well, you you you you're you're guarding out for your personal life, you wanna, you know, you're trying to keep a cover, you're trying to to to gather information and report the information back, And at the same time, you know, you have to worry about the people closest to you as well, your family, your friend, you know, people that, you know, you deal with on a personal level. How do you handle that? I mean, how do you how do you work your way through that type of a stressful occupation?
[00:19:17] Unknown:
Well, I probably should explain the background a little bit. Before I start started a friend of mine from Israel, that worked already in those kind of services. He told me, you know, don't do it. It's a great life. You're not gonna like it. You're gonna be very unhappy. And I went for it anyway. Basically, it's I didn't really have that much of a personal life. At that point, I pretty much had to cut off everybody, including family Mhmm. For their own protection. Right? I would imagine. Yeah. Or because I was dealing with some really, really nasty people. I mean, really nasty people. So cut that off. I was living under assumed name for better part of thirty years.
And then on top of that assumed name, I had other names. Oh, wow. So let's say your real name is Joe Rose, but maybe we say that, your name is Jonathan Decker. Right? And you're gonna be Jonathan Decker for the next twenty five years living in a foreign country or living abroad. Right? And that's who you are. You got school, and it's it's got a good what they call legend, a good history, all that kind of stuff to back it up. And now we're gonna go to John Decker, and we're gonna say or Jonathan Decker say, we're gonna say, well, we've got a little project for you in that North Africa. And you're now you're going to be Francois Jean Francois blah blah blah whatever. Okay? Okay. Boom. Here's the ad support. Learn all the material. You need to go to this country, North Africa. You're gonna meet so and so, and you're gonna do whatever. Or the objective is to do whatever. Right? So you're gonna be Jean Francois maybe two, three years, maybe five years. At the same time, you're Jonathan Decker. You get me? So when you're in North Africa, you're, Jean Francois. And when you're back home, you're Jonathan Decker, and Joe Russo doesn't really even exist.
I mean, it exists on paper. Right. Yeah. No. I understand. But it's it's a way that you can really assimilate the the living a lie or living a tell the best lies you need to believe them. Okay. And you need to assimilate them. And it takes some it's some mental gymnastics to be able to get there. It's not something you do in, like, one week and you say, okay. Yeah. Now I'm Jean Francois and, you know, all that kind of thing. It's not it's not that simple. No. I got it. But that gives you layers of protection. So it protects your loved ones. Mhmm.
Is your lay a level of protection of maybe what country you're actually from. Obviously, there's some things you learn about maybe these languages and accents and all that kind of thing and background and knowledge that you can come across as you're a different from a different part of the world. Okay. Pretty useful. I understand. Which brings down, suspicion.
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Mhmm.
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Now and now now transitioning from that type of a lifestyle to get into when when you came out of that service, did you have a hard time with, with transitioning into, I guess, we would call it civilian life, in my previous, so what what was that like? How how hard was that for you to adjust and and and to get into something like you're doing now, with with, with coaching and and and and the speaking engagements that you have and the leadership programs that you offer?
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It was kinda like leaving like, living in Disneyland or, like, a movie. Mhmm. And then when you get out of it, you you really start really realizing I mean, you realize at the time, but you really start realizing, wow. That was really crazy. Mhmm. Like, that you know what I'm saying? I was involved in that kind of thing. Right? So there's a huge emotional and psychological transition. I became acutely interested in in in God and in I can say religion per se, like, organized religion, but in God, let's say. Mhmm. So I I started studying deeply biblical texts, and then I decided, you know what? I would actually, if I'm gonna read the Bible, I read read it in Hebrew, Aramaic, and the original languages.
So that was a big learning curve for me. Oh, sure. Still still a labor of love I'm still working at, but huge interest. Huge interest. I can't under understate that. And it's not like I'm saying, oh, I was born again or I had other, spiritual awakening. It wasn't that. It was just something in me that just wanted to change. All those years, I'd really live for myself, my ego. I spent my life, Joe, lying. That's that's what you do. Yeah. I mean, I would sleep with women that would fall in love with me, and I was just there because I wanted their phone records or I wanted whatever.
You know what I'm saying? And then sometimes you feel bad you would feel I feel bad about it, but it's the job. Right? Yeah. And was it, you know, the ends ends of the means. I mean, people would say, okay. People that are trained in The US and intelligence services or whatever, government agencies or whatever, we're, you know, we're not supposed to sleep with people and all that kind of stuff. Well, the reality is not that way. Way. I would imagine you have to get the outcome.
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Yeah. Well, I was gonna say, I you because you have to build that relationship, and and eventually, at some point in building the relationship, it's gonna it's gonna, progress to that to that point. And if you didn't act on it, you know, I'm sure it would become very suspicious at a certain point. You know, what's going on here?
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Right. And people, what they don't understand is, okay, maybe you have, let's say, intelligence officers, which this is no secret, work in the embassies. Right? Mhmm. They have a different standard of how they can operate, what they can do and can't do. Right. But the people in the field and then you have different classifications. You have people like me that are expendable. So I could get away with basically bloody murder and do whatever needed done to get in order to get get what needed to get done done. Right? We had other people who had to behave by higher standards, but their hands were tied. I gotcha. So it's it's, and unless the public doesn't understand how that
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And when you say being expendable, I'm I'm sure I'm sure that that has other meanings as well. I mean, that be because of that particular level, as being someone who's considered expendable, if something did go down negatively and you were taken out for it, whether it was through legal means or illegal means, it would be
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just He's not one of ours. He's not he's not even an American man. What are you talking about? Yeah.
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Not even Americans. That I don't know. I don't know if I'd be able to do that. You have to I guess, like, you're you're a prime example, I guess. I mean, you'd have to have a certain mindset and a certain way of of, being able to process that. I I don't know if I'd be able to do that. Yeah. I I really don't. That's why they hire people with certain psychological,
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tendencies or whatever. You have to have a little bit I always use the word psychopathy. It's Greeks people out when I say it, but you have to have a certain amount of a little bit of a personality disorder. A little you gotta be a little nuts straight up. Yeah. I guess so. I to do this. I mean, because if not I mean, you have really, like, strict moral, ethical codes. You're not gonna get much done. I mean, you have to have some some basic stuff. Right? You have to have, like, clarify. Okay. These people I tell the truth to and I don't lie to who who are my minders or my keepers. Right? Government. Right. And these other people, I can do whatever what I do whatever I need to do to get get the get it done. And then maybe I get people in the middle or foreign government intelligence agencies that we're collaborating with, but my loyalty there is not a a 100%. Right. Yeah. Although you develop relationships with people, and that's really freaky. So you become really close to somebody, and you know maybe something bad is gonna happen to them.
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Can't say anything. You can't do anything about it, and that sucks. That's that's a hard that's a hard pill swallow sometimes. Oh, I I I don't know how. I'd man, I I don't know if I'd be able to do that. I I really don't. And I I gotta give you credit for for for devoting so much of your life to it, you know. And I don't know if if it's appropriate or not, but say thank you for your service. I I, you know, it's it's it's it's I don't know. I really don't know. But how did how did your experiences in in in working in that line of work bring you to what you're doing now?
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Okay. So I said I I moved out of that. Right? About 2010, I got out of it. Mhmm. And I had a series of incredible challenges, surprising challenges that I went through. But I I don't know. I just it wasn't based on challenges. I just had this really strong interest in in in understanding the creator better or whatever as much as possible as a human being. Mhmm. Also, I had a couple illnesses, almost died because I got attacked. I had my head skull my cracked my skull cracked, and it was part of work. And then another one I got a couple times anyway. Both times the doctors told me, you know, what?
You're real lucky to be alive, and the other one was like, I'm not sure you're gonna make it, man. Oh, jeez. So I think those kind of things kinda wake you up. You know? You have a big usually, people don't change unless they have, like, some major something happens in their life. You know, you hear people that say we'll use this story like a of the alcoholic. Right? Yeah. Yeah. I wanna stop drinking. Because they know they need to stop drinking. They know it's bad for their liver. It's bad for their health and all that, but they're not gonna do a damn thing until something really major happens in their life that maybe maybe wakes them up to make that change. Right. Yeah. And I think that's true for any for anything in our lives that people are more involved in.
Maybe it's not so good for us. So, anyway, I there was this strong, spiritual component to it, and I can't underestimate that. And then the training thing, I was in India in 2014 looking to find myself, but then I found out I was there all along. That was a joke. I gotcha. Anyway and I I was taking some courses up at teaching as well, IIT, which is like the Indian Institute of Technology. Mhmm. It's very high. It's their most prestigious university. It was at Delhi and and and Mumbai, and it was outside of my government works after. And, they offered me a teaching gig, and I did some teaching for them. And I really enjoyed it.
And but I didn't stay because the compensation in India, of course, was it wouldn't compensate the the standard of life I would be accustomed to. Not not even close, actually. I see. So Okay. That didn't work. But I came back to Europe, and I there was a immediate need with, somebody to teach public speaking at the Ministry of Agriculture. And I filled that need. There was a slot that was needed. I guess they like to work. There was somebody there from IBM, and then I got hired as a corporate trainer for them, which I say this, part time like a freelancer part time. So I worked for them for about six, seven years. Okay. Several months out of every year, and they kept me quite busy. And because of that, then other major Fortune 500 companies started picking me up for doing trainings. I'd be maybe here for three months and there for two months.
And in the course of that, I worked with thousands of from very senior CEO level to middle managers. And a lot of these people I got to know. I spent a lot of time one to one with them. So I've learned a lot about human, about people and problems that normal people have. Mhmm. When I was in the old world, let's say or in the intelligence world, I understood people. I understood what I want to know what's your motivation what's the motivation of this person? What's this person after? What's their what's the what's the end goal? I'll give you a quick one that most people that surprised most people. I I could generate trust, a mafioso
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Okay.
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Or, say, a terrorist even, more than sometimes, other intelligence officers or police. Why? Because the or the terrorist, I could identify generally what their what their real motive was. Okay. So I knew where they were coming from. The intelligence officers or sometimes the foreign police officers, I didn't actually know what the real motive was. Did they want the bust? You know what I'm saying? Did they wanna make they want the collar? They wanna make that? Mhmm. Or did they have some other little game that they're playing behind? This is much more complex with those people. Much more complex. So K. The big thing back then was figuring out people's motives, and body language stuff was basically you can just you can identify people.
You can identify people who are feeling comfortable or uncomfortable. That's basically it's that simple. It's not so simple to say, oh, I can tell this guy's lying because he touched his nose, or I don't know. You cracked the scratched his ear or whatever. Yeah. That's that's bogus. And there are people out there that train, body language that were interrogators for the US government, and they're very good at what they do, some of them. And then what they do is they spend all their time interrogating people in a controlled environment, though. Though. Right. Interrogation room.
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In the wild, wild west, it's a little bit different. Yeah. I I I remember when I went through, my training when I went to work for investigations, we had to go through the interrogation and interviewing technique programs and trainings. I mean, they made it seem so simple, you know, you know, in a classroom it's simple. You know, when you're actually out there in the field doing the job, and actually sitting there with somebody, say, even if you're in an interviewing room, you know, and you're sitting there with with the the person you're interviewing and maybe their representative, it's it's not the same not quite the same thing, you know, as what you're getting in the classroom. There are those little tricks and stuff don't always work.
And, you know, and and some people don't. Like like you you said, you know, touching the nose or playing with the ear or fidgeting, you know. It doesn't always necessarily mean what they tell you in the classroom either, you know. Some people have nervous ticks just naturally. Like, I have one. It drives me crazy, and I try to control it. For some reason, I chew the inside of my mouth. It's just Alright. It's that it's just I've always done that, you know. Right.
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But yet in an interviewing and interrogation program, they'll say, well, he's hiding something from you. You know? I'm very well could be. Because it well, they're not baselining the person, and it's harder to baseline somebody in an even a job interview. Right? If you're trying if you if you've got somebody in the interrogation room, their their defense is up. They're feeling they're not probably feeling more warm and fuzzy and happy to be Right. Right? Yeah. So you're dealing with a very artificial situation. Companies that will do interviews and they use, like, body language experts to do analysis. What you would do is you'd bump in I might be sitting in the waiting room for the interview Mhmm. Next to them, have a chat with them Yep. Get to know them, get them relaxed. But enough time so I have a feeling what this person's like, Then they go into the room for the interview. And then on camera, it's easier to now identify the differences in because I've had a time to speak to them in their natural state. In the interrogation room, it's not it's not that way. Yeah. And in the field, usually, you get to spend more time with people so you get a better feeling for what what they're what they're all about.
Yeah. And if they drink alcohol, that's a very useful tool because people tend to slip and say things that and you have to let you'd be very observant, listen very carefully to what people are saying, how they say it, what words they emphasize, when they pause. All those little things can give you clues into
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what their mindset is. But, again, you're identifying comfort and discomfort. Now how much how much communication would you say is nonverbal, and and, you know, what are some of the common mistakes that leaders make, in in trying to understand nonverbal communication?
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Well, they probably have prejudices or stereo stereotypes, and they just think this means that.
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Okay.
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It doesn't. Right? So the the traditional one are arms crossed. Right? Well, it could be. It depends on the temperature in the room. Mhmm. Also, women, they tend to like to cross their arms more for obvious reasons because of physiology. Right? So that doesn't necessarily mean well, although female's doing that, yes, maybe she's a little bit defensive, but it doesn't mean I'm, like, hiding something necessarily. So I think leaders, a lot of times, they don't pay a lot of it. They don't pay that much attention to I'm gonna say male leaders don't pay that much attention to body language.
When I run into and this this is a trip. A lot of your high let's see. People really important people, their egos are so out of balance with reality. They're to some degree, they're out of touch. I see. So they they're they're very charismatic. They come across really nice, but they already have preconceived ideas about stuff, and they're not maybe seeing really what the real what the real situation is. And I can tell you from firsthand experience as a coach or trainer, I've seen that numerous times. Both in the political and privacy.
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Now as as a coach or a trainer oh, and and and and for doing the, you know, public speaking and and and such. And your experiences, what separates speakers who talk from speakers who can connect?
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If I'm connecting, I'm talking to you. If I'm talking, I've got this thing memorized, and I'm just up there just to vomit out the information I know. Right? Okay. If I'm trying to connect with my audience, that's that's the key thing, and it's actually from from the heart. You need to be selling a product or selling a service or communicating an idea I believe in. That's fundamental. Mhmm. Right? So I should really believe in what I'm trying to transmit. And that's why a lot of politicians get into trouble because a lot of them are saying stuff they don't believe, and it comes across as fake and phony. Unless some politicians have to do the same trick where they convince themselves that what they're saying is true. Mhmm.
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I think, I think, a good example of that is, one of our former presidents, who talked a great game, you know, spoke a lot. Which it could be. Yeah. Just might be. Yeah. Yeah. Obama. He, you know, he spoke a great you know, he had he had a great way of expressing himself. He was great at public speaking. You know, he was able to rile up a crowd, but it it but none of that stuff. None of that rhetoric was really from the heart. Yeah. And and sometimes you could tell. You know, sometimes you could see it. Things that I picked up on was when when he was lying, which was most of the time, he would stutter and stammer more than, than when he was speaking truly from the heart.
It's like he was trying to find the words to speak or say, or maybe it wasn't on the teleprompter, and he was trying to ad lib it. And then you have someone like, like like, president Trump who I honestly I I honestly believe that everything that comes out of this man's mouth, if it's not on the teleprompter, that's his real heart. That's his true heart. You know, I I just get that sense from him. But it's interesting when you look at the the the two styles of of of speaking between those two men. I I don't include, Joe Biden because I don't think Joe Biden knew what he was saying in the first place. But, but you look you contrast those two, and you could see the difference in in the rhetoric, and I don't use the word negatively. I'm just what what they're saying, you could tell that who is really in like, when president Trump says that, you know, he is looking out for the American people. He's looking out for America first.
I believe him. I I believe I I believe that he's that that he truly, deep down inside, wants to, see America back in the leadership role that it that it had held on to since World War two, and, and I I believe that that's his intended goal. And I I lost my train of thought where I was going with that. So I trust him more, like I I I'll listen more to what he has to say, and and put my trust in that. Now, are there things going on right now within the administration that did not necessarily seem like America first? Yeah. There there are. I'm not I love I love president Trump. I do. I think he's done a great job. I'm not thrilled with everything. I mean, and I'm not a sycophant. That's why, you know, so I can I can I can pull it out and say, no? No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No Exactly.
But, but on the whole, I I trust him. You know? I I because I I honestly believe that what he is when he's talking about American exceptionalism and American excellence, that he means it. That's what he wants, and that's what he wants to see.
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That's what I see this I see the same. I mean, if you look at Keir Starmer, who's a prime minister of The UK Mhmm. People don't know. Keir Starmer is oh, they call him her stammer starmer. He's, but he lies all the time. I mean, he's just a he's he's a compulsive liar. It's amazing. Yeah. And it's not because I don't agree with his politics. But the fact is with Trump you you at least with Trump, you can say his actions match his words. Yes. Whether you like his actions or not, okay. Fine. Another issue with the other. He does what he says he's gonna do. He doesn't do okay. Obama and I've been around many of politicians in Europe. They some of them have this great ability that they can deliver a speech or talk to a group of people, and they can say two things at once. Mhmm.
This is a talent. So they're delivering two messages with one one conversation to a group of people. Yeah. Obama had that ability. Yes. And I I dissected I've I've got a I've got some videos here. I've dissected the hell out of an I'm a plan actually, I've actually made video. I haven't edited them, but I wanna produce them. I want to publish them. And it's tricky stuff, and I've seen other politicians sitting right next to them doing this in Europe, members of the European parliament. It's amazing. The ability to do that's something it's a skill I don't have, personally. And I do public speaking. But Right. Be able to deliver,
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say something that has a double meaning. And I think what we're we're we're we're really talking about here is is another question that I had for you about, you know, like, what separates somebody who's who who's just simply speaking and someone who connects and persuades?
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Again, it's it's from the heart. So if I'm talking to a group of people, I'm looking for people in the audience I'm connecting with. And if I notice let's say it's a big audience. Maybe okay. Let's say a couple 100 people. And I'm looking at these people, I'm looking to see if I'm connecting. And if I'm not connecting, I need to change my tactic. Maybe I need to speak more slowly, more quickly. Maybe I need to put more emphasis. Maybe I need to change the topic.
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Adjust it something somehow. Right? You have to be fluid.
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Yeah. Yeah. You need to know really know what you're talking about so you can do that. But, I mean, it is it is true that you there are audiences that are very difficult to to connect with, but that's very rare. That's very rare. That's just usually a cop out. It does exist, maybe one in a thousand. But Right. Generally speaking, you have other people's interest at heart. People can feel if you actually like them or you care about them or you have their best interest in heart. They can feel that. And they can also feel if you could care less and you're just there because you wanna sell them whatever, convince them whatever because you're out there to benefit yourself. Right. You know, kind of Yeah. And then you have stupid people that'll believe whatever. You know? Right.
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No. I I know that, like, from my experiences in in public speaking, and, like, we talked before the show. I told you I I I used to preach. From I I I served an associate pastor in a church up in New York, and, you know, I I would I would I would I would regularly get up at the pulpit, and I would I would talk to folks, and, you know, and I tried to connect as much as I possibly could, with the people that were there. Now, I've I've spoken to to small groups like 25, 30 people. I've also spoken to 400 and up, you know, at at other, services and such that I I took part in.
And one of the things that I've always liked to do, and and I I I saw something in in your in your bio that that, that that you you mentioned as well, is is is using someone's name. So what I would do is if if there was somebody in the audience that I knew personally, that I knew well, I would call on them. Like, I or I would kinda might poke some fun at them, you know, and and and they knew that it was just part of the, you know, it's just kinda to break down the barrier, you know. And, like I would say, you know, you know, there was one time I was I was preaching, and I was like, and I said something, and it was like, it was talking about I was talking about the rapture, and and I was saying that, you know, you know, if if the Lord decided to rapture us out of here right now, I wouldn't care. I I I wouldn't even have to finish the sermon, and, and somebody said amen.
You know, and and I jumped on that. It was it was my friend George who was in the audience, and and I said, you see? Look, even George likes to and that made everybody laugh, and you know, and it kind of brought the tension down that was already there, because I was a guest speaker really, and and, you know, so a lot of the folks that were there didn't really know who I was. I think we lost you froze. Donnie, are you still with us? I think we lost Don for a second, so let's give him a chance to pop on back here. Alright. You just messaged me. Let me But I don't know what happened. That's okay. No idea. That's fine.
Sorry about that, guys. Maybe I thought it was the rapture. Yeah.
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I I teach people when, like, public speaking, when things get to the room early and talk to members who are gonna be in the audience. Mhmm. Try to develop some rapport with them. Like, especially if it's a cold audience. You don't know. So when you so when you're standing up speaking, at least you've spoken to them, and then you can the audience will feel more connected if you're looking at these people in the eyes. Right? But a lot of people are afraid of public speaking, so they don't wanna look at the audience in the eyes. But if I spoken to half a dozen people privately, and I had a good experience with them, then it's very easy to look them in the eyes. Right? Yes. And it kinda makes you feel more confident what in what you're doing. Of course. Yeah. I can tell you funny stories about that not working out, but anyway.
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I think I think we all could. One of the one of the tricks that I would do, if I didn't have an opportunity to really meet people, prior to getting up and speaking, I I I would make it a point though, I would scan the room, and I would look for a friendly face. You know, maybe somebody who's listening and they're smiling at something that I said, or or they look really interested in it. And I would kinda in a way talk to them, you know. And still scan the room, but I would talk to them, to that particular person, and I would never I'd never look them in the eyes though. I always I I found a spot on the forehead that I would look at, and it made it look like I was looking you in the eyes.
Okay. Because of the distance, you know, I was from from them individually. So it it looks like I'm looking at you directly, but I'm really not. I'm looking over you. I'm looking at your forehead or something, until one person that I knew that that was there pointed it out to me. I did it at not that event, but another event, where I had some people there that I knew, and he was like, you know, keep on looking at my bald spot. And and and he he shouted it. Now, I don't know if you've ever been to a Baptist church. I mean, but that's common in a Baptist church. They Oh, yeah. They they tend to do those things. But, but, you know, I turned around and said, well, if the light wasn't glaring so much off of it, I wouldn't have to look at it.
You know? Kind of turned into a joke and it worked. It it broke it it melted the ice, so to speak. And it was it was interesting, but it's so true though, you know. You know, it's it's it's you get to know your audience, you get to talk to them a little bit, you know, beforehand. It it does help. It really it truly truly does. And and and that's that's something that, you know, I don't I don't really see a lot of people do at these functions and events. Like, I've been to a few things where there are people that the, you know, like like, what do they call those things? Like conventions. Right? Where you have you have a guest speaker coming up there, and they just come up on the stage, and they don't they don't know who anybody is. And man, they go at it. They they just get right into it, and it seems so robotic, and so un like, no connection to it. They get up, they speak for for thirty minutes, forty minutes, whatever it might be, and then they're off, and you don't and they're gone.
But that personal connection that you make with somebody, I think that's that's key. You know, I, there are things that that you've talked about and and I've read about you that, I I like to try to do with my audience, that I I try to catch I I see myself doing from time to time, and I'm not perfect at it, but, you know, I try to. I I like to I like I want my audience to feel like, hey, you know, we're we're we're we're we're buddies here. You know, we're doing that, you know, we're doing this together. We're going through this. That's why and and when I tell them at the beginning of the show or the end of the show, I that I look forward to spending my night, you know, hanging out with whoever it is that's watching. Like, I don't have a huge audience. I have like 10 people watching right now on Rumble. But, you know, I don't have like like live numbers aren't huge, but I'm still connecting with people, and because my because the the downloads later show it, you know. And and the little comments and feedback that I get shows it, you know. And and it's important. I want people to feel like this is their show just as much as it is mine. I want them to be involved in it, And, you know, I I don't sometimes I hope that it comes across sincere, because I it really is. You know, I do want everybody to feel like, hey, we're just a couple of it's a bunch of people just hanging out, you know, just shooting the breeze, talking about whatever it is that we're talking about. And, you know, enjoy the time here, you know, and, get more involved in the show and stuff. And I try to bring that out, and I'm I'm hoping I do. Now you've seen a couple of shows that we've done. What's your assessment? Do you think it's legit? Do you think? I think it's completely legit. I wouldn't be on here if I didn't. Oh, look. Awesome. Thank you.
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No. And and you're a very good conversationalist. You you have you have a pleasant voice. You have good resonance when you speak. You're interesting. You're engaging, which is actually not that common.
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Oh, thank you. Honest. Sociopathic. You know? It needs one of those things. I thought in fact,
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I I I really didn't straight up, I really did enjoy. In fact, this is gonna sound a little bit weird. I was surprised you didn't have, like, more followers and more things for the quality of product
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that you produce. Well, that's on me. Because I because I because working working the forty hour a week and then trying to do the show as as often as I do, I don't have a lot of time to, to play on the social media stuff and and and to interact that way. So that's where I'm lacking, and I I got, you know, I was talking to Angela who's, one of my producers. And, you know, we talked about that today. That that's something we could target for next year for '26, you know. Get more involved in the social media, try to get more involvement here, and grow the audience, and publish ourselves, and and put ourselves out there a little bit more. You know, I've been doing this sorry.
[00:49:13] Unknown:
I'm sorry. You're very good. You really are. Thank you. Legitimately. Question, do you have experience doing radio or
[00:49:20] Unknown:
I I started doing this back I started doing this back in 2016 before it was called podcasting. It was, it was Internet radio. Did a I had a a a week a once a week show, a live show with, with two of my buddies up in New York. And, it was mostly political opinion and talk, but it wasn't serious. Like like, we we talked serious stuff, but we spent more time joking around and poking fun at it. You know? And it was a good balance. We had I I was the more conservative voice on the show, and then you had my friend Jay, who was the the the big time liberal on the show. And then we had the actual the studio owner that we use, because he was actually a professional studio. His deal was, you know, just, you know, let me come on the show, you could use the studio for free. So so he he was there, and, he was our libertarian voice. So you had the three you had this you had the three spectrums right there, and we would and we would get into it. We would we would argue, and and bicker, and complain, and and, you know, yell at each other, but, you know, at the end of the day we were buddies, you know, after the show was over, we had got a beer, had some pizza, and it was good. You know, But one of the best compliments that we ever got was, somebody actually, put in a because we were on three different, Internet radio networks, I guess you would call it. And so we were we were broadcasting across all these different streams at the same time, and we had access to like live chats and things like that.
And, one of the best compliments we ever got, and I'll I'll never forget it, was that they loved listening to the show because they felt like they were hanging out in the backyard with a bunch of the guys drinking a beer just bullshitting. That's what I'm trying to do. That's and that's exactly what we wanted, and that's, you
[00:50:59] Unknown:
know, that's what I'm trying to do here. So It's a great formula. Yeah. Well Maybe if you look at, like like, Joe Rogan, let's say. Right? One of the biggest. Right? It's very casual. Mhmm. They're speaking. There's no, like, pretentious,
[00:51:11] Unknown:
like, weird vibes and stuff like that. It's Right. And that's exactly what we're trying to do here. And, you know, so we'll we'll get there. I so I started in 2016, 2017, somewhere around there. We did it for about a year, and then I moved here to Texas. And at the time, you know, technology wasn't like this at that time. So it was hard to do a remote show, so Right. We kind of let it go. And then, you know, I kinda put it aside for a little while, and I came back to it, about four years ago. I did a another show, which was just strictly bible study. That's all it was. I mean, I threw my little political opinions here or there, because honestly, not not to sound preachy or anything like that, but you know, if if you're really gonna understand what's going on in the world today, you gotta read your Bible. Because your Bible talks about all this stuff.
You know? 100%. The Bible is the is the greatest political history book, political history and science book you'll ever get. You know, it covers all things because the main theme of the bible is I mean, salvation is in there, and it's it's important. I'm glad it's in there, but the main theme of the bible is government. Who's going to run who? You know, and you you gotta if you gotta follow that. So, if you wanna really understand what's going on in the world, read your bible. So I so I did this bible study show for for about three years, you know. Had a had a pretty decent had a pretty decent run with it, but I I came down with what I call preacher's block.
So I I got to a point where, and they're gonna have the writer's block, I had preacher's block. I I I was in the middle of doing a study, and I just hit a block, like I hit a wall. I was like, I don't know where to go with this at this point. So So I said, I'm gonna step back a little bit. I'm gonna take a break. And while I was taking the break, and I was like, you know, you know what? I think I wanna do something outside of the bible study. So may maybe I'll do this. I'll I'll just do this like whenever I feel like it. Pre recorded podcast, you know, whenever, you know, whenever I have time.
And that didn't last very long, because I love to do this. You know, I love I love this interaction. I have met so many incredible people doing this format of a podcast. People that I never would probably met in my entire life like yourself. I've I've hosted I've hosted, Nobel Peace Prize nominees. I I've hosted, politicians. I've hosted authors. I've I've hosted a wide paranormal investigators. I've hosted so many different types of people on this show. People, again, that I never probably would have met any other way. And every show that I walk away from, I've learned something. You know? And to me, that's that's amazing.
I love to do this. If I could if look, if if I if I had the money, and I was able to do this every single day, just this alone, and devote the time to the preparation, the promotion, and and building this thing, yeah, I would do that in a heartbeat like that. You know, because I love to do it. It's a To me, it's a lot of fun. Yeah. It has its stresses. Yes. It has its aggravations, and you know, cancellations, and and tech problems, and glitches, and goofs, and whatnot. But it's it To me, this is an an incredibly amazing experience that I would never wanna give up and walk away from completely and say, I'm done with this. You know? No. I can't. I love this. This is a lot of fun.
[00:54:37] Unknown:
It's way cool, man. Way cool. I mean, they have a hobby I mean, at this point, I guess it's a hobby because you have a job. But Mhmm. If you can turn your hobby into a profession, that would be
[00:54:46] Unknown:
amazing. That's my goal. That's my goal. You know, I I invested a lot of a lot of my own money into I built this. A I I bought a house. After my divorce, I bought a house, and I took this one room in the house, and I made a studio out of it. I have the whole, you know, everything in here is mine. You know, I the only thing the only thing I did not buy in here is the chair that I'm sitting on. That that was that was actually a gift, from from a listener. That because I it was funny. I was doing the show and, the chair broke while I was doing the show. And and it just it like shifted. And I was like, I guess I gotta get a new chair. And then, I got an email through the website.
Somebody asked me how they can, you know, help out with that and and, okay. Here. And sure enough, I got, like, a chair showed up. So I was like, alright.
[00:55:39] Unknown:
Outstanding. So, you know For the reason I'm laughing so much, I was doing a Zoom call once with the the Ministry of Defense in Spain. So I have, like, eight or 12 people on the now it's like 12 people on the thing. And, I was sitting on this wooden chair. I was I was traveling. It was like a wood iron chair, so I'm seeing her do my thing, and the chair broke. And, literally, they're watching me, and all of a sudden, they watch me fall. Just like So you know what I'm talking about? Face and I had the thing recorded so I could see their faces.
[00:56:09] Unknown:
Anyway, yeah, I can appreciate that about cheer breaking. Yeah. No. It's it's it they and that's and that's why I always say that's the things about doing a live. And that's the reason why I like to do live shows. I don't like doing pre recorded stuff. You know why? And I'll tell you why, because if if and people listening don't know, because I've I've said it before, but when I do a when I do a pre recorded show, I get lazy. That's how I know myself. I get lazy. I won't I'll I'll do it later. I'll I'll I'll let you know. Or I am so I'm picky. So I'll I'll stop and start. Stop and start. Stop and start. Back and forth. Back and forth. It takes so much time, and then, you know, when you do it live, man, if I mess up, I gotta fix it right there. I gotta keep moving. You know, it makes and it I feel like it makes me a better broadcaster.
So, or podcaster, how how you wanna say it. And, the there's a even though we have low numbers that are that watch the show live, there's a different energy when you're doing a live show. Completely different energy. And, it's a lot of fun, you know. It because again, you never know what's gonna come up. You never know what's gonna happen, and you gotta learn how to flow with it and make it work.
[00:57:20] Unknown:
And that's why I like doing it. Yeah. I love it. What what's the what's the if I can ask you this. What's the craziest thing that's happened to you? Because I know you've done a lot of shows. Yeah. What's the craziest, like, thing that has happened to you on a live show?
[00:57:33] Unknown:
The the day that I interviewed a blue cat. Yeah. Blue cat? Yeah. A great guy. I love him. And as a matter of fact, he's gonna be on the show again in a couple of weeks. So I I I started using this service called PodMatch, which is like Tinder for podcasters, you know. So, you get you you set up a profile, and you, you know, and and it matches you with with guests. And swipe? Yeah. Yeah. Basically. Yeah. It's it's match or pass, you know. So so, so, you know, you you go you get you get like a bunch of matches to your profile, you go over their profile, you say, okay, well, is this for me? Is this not for me? Pass, or maybe later, or something like that. And, so, this guy came up and it had a very interesting profile. I saw the blue cat on the on the on the profile because that's his alter ego on the show that he's been doing for many many many years.
But I wasn't expecting to come on the show as a guest as the blue cat. So I'm so I'm getting no no. It was a cartoon character. It was like like like like a like a computer graphic, you know, image. So, so when when the show started, I was going through the whole thing, and I'm thinking to myself, alright. So it's gonna be interesting, you know, because on the on the guy's profile, there's like no pictures of him whatsoever. Everything is all just the cat. So I'm curious what the guy looks like, you know? To see if the see if the face matches the voice, because I I listened to a couple of shows that he did. And and a a friend of mine said after the show, he he he text me. He goes, I wish you could have seen the look on your face when the camera turned on and it was a blue cat.
He goes, you you look like you didn't know what the hell to do at that point. And, he was right. I was I it threw me off. It caught caught me off guard totally. And it was crazy. But, that's that's probably one of the more funnier things that that take a place. I mean, I've I've had I've had people that had meltdowns on the show, like like got really like hostile. And, you know, it's like, I don't I don't try to provoke people to get like that. I don't. I just I like to have conversation. But, I've had a wide range of stuff. Again, like I said, I've interviewed authors, and probably one of the more fun ones we had was with, Paranormal Investigators. They were podcasters also. They have a podcast great podcast called Creepy Coffees.
They, we had a blast, man. We just told some great stories back and forth, and a lot of lot of fun. I like that stuff. It's it's interesting. I I had people on the show that we talked about, zero point energy. You know, fascinating to me. I mean, I don't know much about it. I learned a hell of a lot on the course of the show. You know, so we cover a lot of ground. We do a lot of great things. I love the conversations. I do. It's it's And again, like I said, I never would have met a lot of these people without doing this type of a format, the long form interview format. It's just something that, you know, I I just love it. I can't help it. You know? And I'm being serious. I'm not like, I'm not trying to just stoke for viewers or anything like that. I'm I'm I truly do. It's a When you said you had somebody have a meltdown, was it you got did you guys get into politics?
No. No. It was it it had to do with, it had to do with, well, it it had to do I guess I guess you could say, had to do with religious background and and and positions. And, you know, I'm Yeah. I'm a Baptist preacher, you know, and and and I will, you know, every now and then throw it out there, and and, you know, ask the questions, you know. But with with this particular guest, I I didn't do that because I knew where they stood on on their their beliefs, and, but they just, you know, for whatever reason, just went after me. And when somebody actually emailed me and, that was Angela, actually, my producer. She emailed and said she couldn't believe, you know, the just the hostility that came out, and and she said that, I I she was really impressed with the with the amount of grace that I that I showed in in in not losing my cool over it.
But, you know, it it it was one of those It was just, you know, it was one of those things. And, you know, it's I'm I'm sorry that it happened the way it did. It didn't need to, but it did. And, you know, I don't dynamic kind of energy type thing. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. I think I think a lot of a lot of that has to do with that. I I, you know, I don't know. I don't wanna talk bad about them either because, you know, because they're they're good people. And, you know, we had we had a great relationship up to that point. You know, we we would speak regularly.
And, you know, there there wasn't the first time they came on the show. They've been on the show many times. So, it was it just, like, out of nowhere. It just caught us off guard. But it, you know, those things happen. Those things happen. And you just gotta learn how to roll with it. And that's what again, the the joys of doing a live show is, how do you deal with that? You know, if you were recording it, you would hit the stop button and say, hold on a second. You know? Yeah. Right. And back it up. Let's talk about this. Right? Yeah. Let's get back on track here. But no, this is this was just like that. Notaneous. Yeah. No. It it just happened. But that but that's again, when you do how do we get on this subject?
[01:02:59] Unknown:
I mean, we talk about difficult con well, I could tie it back into coaching, like, difficult conversation. Supposed to be about you, not me. I mean, what I I would train somebody and say, okay. Right. You got somebody who's freaking out or melting down. Right? Well, just go pretty much just what I call strategic empathy, where you just list let them talk. You listen to them. You don't strategic empathy is not that you agree, but you're just letting them know I understand what you're saying Yeah. Listening to you until they get worked through whatever they're working through.
[01:03:27] Unknown:
And then you figure out the best way to deal with it. And then there's different strategies to Right. But what I'll do is actually Maybe maybe not. I'll I'll find the link to that show, and I'll send it to you so you can take a look at it. So you see what I'm talking about. So Okay. Yeah. That that would would be great. But it's it was it was fascinating conversation. It was really it's all of a sudden just like that. Just flipped. And, I'll tell you more about it later because there there's there's more there's backstory to it too as well, but that's not something for for the audience to have to go through. Okay. Yeah. I I I'm curious to know to know more of that. Yeah. I'll definitely let you know. But you know what? Our you know, we didn't get to half of the stuff I had for you. Our my next guest is, is waiting in the wings here.
I do wanna I do wanna get to one thing though. The the last question that that I that I I mentioned to you earlier that that was going wanted to ask you about was, mindfulness and self awareness. So so what what role does mindfulness and self awareness play in communication, especially when you're talking about leaders, people in high pressure, situations? How how does mindfulness and self awareness play in their communications?
[01:04:33] Unknown:
It's everything. It really is. And I'm talking about in in in the work working for an organization, a company, whether private or or public. No. I'm not talking about what I used to do. Right? Yeah. It's everything. Because if you don't if you're not self aware, how can you even have an emotional intelligence? I if I can't if I don't have the empathy to be able to put myself where this person's coming from or why they're feeling that way and be able to identify that Right. I mean, I need to first have a strong understanding of myself and my own faults, my own prejudices or stereotypes, and and and what are my values and beliefs and so so it's like, okay. What am I feeling? Why am I feeling this? Okay. Great. Now I gotta put myself, my ego aside so I can deal with this situation with this person.
It's critical. And then we're talking about mindfulness awareness. That's just being in the moment. And I in my case, it's really having a relationship with god. If I was a Buddhist, it probably would be, you know, doing hours and hours of meditation and fasting and stuff like that. I I I would think. But it's a matter of just being in the moment and not letting yourself get taken away. A lot of times we get it's like a wave from the in the ocean. You get you get swoped up in it. Right. Not letting that happen. Just letting you know, saying, okay. Soon as you realize that you're getting, like, overtaken by whatever's happening around you and saying, hey. Separate.
Detach. Because what's happening around me is not actually part of me. It's not really I gotcha. Part of me. You know? And if and if people they I we people nowadays, I think, well, they always happen. They identify so much with their body and the way we look and the way people perceive us and I gotta be liked, and we've got this double world that we're in the world, who I am and the way I want people to see me. And that creates tremendous stress. And when there's a bigger separation between how I want people to see me and who I really am, that creates a lot of stress. So when those two things are closer, you're dealing with a person who's actually psychologically much more healthy, one. Gotcha. Two, being able to live slow yourself down to be in the moment. So if some bad thing is happening, somebody's freaking out, they're having a meltdown, whatever, being able to detach from the situation so you can best try to help them or or deal with it. I mean, there are certain criteria. Right? I have the old thing is, like, who's a bigger fool? The fool or the person that argues with the fool? Right. When I'm talking to a fool, I'm not gonna argue with them. It's just no point. But if I if that's not the case, then maybe I want and I wanna try to help the person in some way or try to understand where they're coming from, why they're saying that, why they're behaving this way, whatever. And as a leader, that's critical, especially in the organization. If they have talent, and that's when your top engineers or when your top employees, I mean, you know, you gotta
[01:07:06] Unknown:
Yeah. No. That make that makes a lot of sense to me. So what I'd like to do is, though, I'm gonna I want you to come back on the show, probably after the New Year, when you have some when you have some time, and, cover some more ground. There's a there's a lot that I really wanted to get into with you. And, let's see. So I know you do, some training. Right? You have classes that you teach, and most of them are free. Correct?
[01:07:30] Unknown:
Yeah. Some of them. Some of them. Some of them. Yeah. I do a lot of free work too. Yeah. Okay. And, so
[01:07:38] Unknown:
so, who is someone that you respect right now? What are they doing that inspires you? Someone that I respect? Yes. Or or somebody that that inspires me? Well, no. Somebody that you respect, and what are they doing that inspires you?
[01:07:52] Unknown:
Okay. Somebody that I respect, and what are they doing that inspires me? There's a number of people. I'm thinking more political people, but I'm trying to think of somebody who's not political.
[01:08:04] Unknown:
Could be political.
[01:08:06] Unknown:
A lot of the I'm gonna say the within the Christian and even the Jewish community Mhmm. Because a lot of you know, they're really going for the Saturday people. I mean, what's happening there is just disgusting. And, also, as far as the the Christian community as well. So Yeah. I agree. So people who are able to stick to their values, not being dogmatic and stuff like that, but stick, you know, stick to what the Bible says. You know? Let's not, like, people trying to rewrite it. I mean, that that drives me crazy. You know? It's like the Bible says certain things. Certain thing not everything, but certain things are pretty black and white. It's written real clear. It's not like you know? I don't know. I agree. I don't get you know, it's like either I'm either I'm a man or a woman. I don't get to be both. I'm sorry. It's it's not worth it. Yeah. I I totally get that. Politically, completely incorrect what I said. I realize that. But That's okay. That's that's the whole point of this show is politically incorrect. So it doesn't matter. And if somebody chooses an what I call an alternate lifestyle, okay, good for them. Mhmm. Whatever.
But you don't get to, you know, say, well, that's okay with God because it doesn't really say that in the book. No. It doesn't. It's it's it's pretty clear. It is is pretty clear. No. It's pretty clear. So, So, I mean, it's not it's not for me to judge them, and maybe they can have a relationship with God and stuff like that, but they shouldn't say, oh, it's okay because I'm living this alternative lifestyle lifestyle, and everybody should do the same. So, I think a lot of the people who are preaching, the people who are trying to keep the good word, and whether being Jewish or or Christian Mhmm.
Keep up the good work because it's very, very important for us to go in the right direction. Okay. Because the dark forces are definitely here, and they are working overtime.
[01:09:43] Unknown:
Totally. Working. Hopefully, we agree with that. Alright. Doctor Weber, where can we go where can we go to find more about you and your work?
[01:09:51] Unknown:
You can go ddrwebbercoaching.com.
[01:09:54] Unknown:
Outstanding. And I know we do we do have that in the show notes, so that'll be available to everybody. They can click on that when it's available, when the show is uploaded, and, to the audio. And, so doctor Weber, again, thank you. Appreciate it, man. I really really do appreciate the conversation. It was a lot of fun. And, I'm gonna I'll send you the links and everything after the show, and then we'll set up something for for January to have you come back. Sounds great, man. Alright. Thank you. Enjoy the rest of your evening, and have a wonderful Thanksgiving. Thank you. You too. Happy Thanksgiving, sir. Alright. Take care now. Alright. Thank you. Alright, folks. Doctor Don Weber. What a conversation. That that did not I didn't get to anything really that we had ready for him, but we just just just kinda took off with that, and I think that was fantastic. I really enjoyed the conversation.
Alright. Let's see. We have sitting here waiting for us right now. I'm not gonna take the break. I don't have to go pee pee. So, we're gonna we're gonna bring in, Ruben Camarillo from the Now You Know Eagle Pass podcast. Ruben, what's going on, buddy? What's going on, Joey? There's that echo again. Glad to be here with my good friend at Not Joe Ross. Joe Rose. Joe. Joe Roos.
[01:11:00] Unknown:
I was I was not at my good friend, Daniel.
[01:11:04] Unknown:
So so, Ruben, man, thanks again. I yeah. I know we we we kinda touched up a little bit, I think it was yesterday or the day before yesterday, about, about just jumping on here. What I really wanted to do was I I wanted to have, like, just a a little bit of a, you know, a a a what are you thankful for kind of segment to end the show because, you know, tomorrow is Thanksgiving. And, you know, I couldn't think of anybody else better to have on the show to talk about those things than my buddy over here. I appreciate it, man. So, you know, I I I I let me start with this one because, I'm I just wanna say this. One of the things I'm really thankful for, there there has been much that that, Danny has, done that made me thankful. I'm kidding. I'm just teasing. I know he's watching. That's why I'm saying it. But, but, you know, one of the things I am thankful for is that he actually introduced us together. I think I think, that was a great connection.
And, I just want I just want to tell you to your face that I appreciate what you're doing with your show. I think you're doing a spectacular job, and I'm really excited for what you're gonna be doing for next year. So, so so thank you very much. And for jumping on the show, man, like short notice stuff, man, I you rock, buddy. Oh, thanks, Joe. No. I appreciate it. The pleasure is all mine, man. You know what? It's it's
[01:12:17] Unknown:
it's good together. It's good to get together and have these kinds of conversations, especially, like, as two podcasters. You know? And and, yeah, I'm the same thing. I'm very thankful that, you know, Danny brought us together. I had no idea that you were out there. You had no idea I was out here, and and look at that. Boom. You know? We got we got something going on. And, I think this is a good thing for the community, you know, to to get a get get ourselves out there and because you got a really good show going on. Thanks, brother. Oh my god. My yeah. I I absolutely love it, and I'm just touting it out. You know, letting people know about it.
[01:12:51] Unknown:
Great speaker. You know what I mean? Very thankful for that, man. So it's it's I've been a big fan for sure. I well, I gotta say the same thing. I I I I check been checking out your shows, and, I gotta tell you, man. I don't know. The next, the next big thing on on the horizon there for you, pal. Yeah. No. Definitely.
[01:13:13] Unknown:
It's already it's already if we're talking about my candidacy for county judge, man, that's Yes. I was gonna I was leaning into that. Thank you. Yeah. It's, it's it's been wild already, man. I haven't even started yet, and already the politics are are out there. I can imagine. Oh, yeah. Big time. But you know what? I have lots of good friends and family, and, I have a lot of good, you know, sup a good support system. You know, inner circle is very small, but, that that's all you need is just that support, to keep you going. We got a good team going on here, and, you know, we're gonna bring a change to the county, man. We're gonna bring try and lower taxes, get that escrow down, you know, if we can. You know what I mean? And, Got a lovely letter yesterday from my homeowner's insurance. They're increasing my, my premium.
Oh my god. Are you serious? Yeah.
[01:13:57] Unknown:
Oh, man. That's alright, though. Because, today I went shopping around, and I I found a new insurance company. So they're actually saving me about, I think, almost a $100 Oh. Off the current premium before the increase. So that's good. That's cool. Okay. Okay.
[01:14:12] Unknown:
But, yeah. We got it. So so you you officially accepted the, the nomination here, and you're, you're you're building your campaign? Yes, sir. Yeah. Absolutely. It's gonna be, you know, we we have a good team going. And, man, I gotta tell you, it was it was nerve wracking, you know, that I just putting my my pen to that paper. One of our one of the donors, from Texas, it was it's called Project Red. What they do is they, they donate to register any Republicans to, you know, to to join in another candidacy, know, just to get more Republicans going, especially when you're in a Democratic stronghold.
Even though it's not about red and blue, obviously, that's what my I want my campaign to be. The the this but the the story I wanna get to is so I get nervous when someone's watching me write. And I I don't know why, man. Like, you can, you know, there's not a lot of things that can shake me up. But when someone's, like, watching me, you know, and I'm just, like, you know, and then my hands start, like, getting tensed up. I'm like, man, you're you're causing me to to to write like a 12 a four year old man. Come on, man. Yeah.
But, yeah, it was a really it was a last minute kinda thing, that they they didn't have a Republican candidate. And, you know, my my good friend, Sandy, the Republican chair, had flagged me down while I was at the mall. You know, we're just gonna go fix my son's phone. And then all of a sudden, she's like, I I and for the media purpose, I was like, hey. Where's your Republican candidate at? What's going on? And she's like, well, I have a few. And I said, well, we're just the one for a county judge. And he said, oh, well, g m. It's not that's not that didn't work out after all. Mhmm. And then there was just total silence. And I'm looking at my wife, and my wife's shaking her head.
And then she's like, well, why don't you run? I was just like,
[01:16:01] Unknown:
no. Your wife knew that was coming. That's why she said that's why she was shaking her head. She's like, no. Don't do it.
[01:16:07] Unknown:
And because she knew. She knew. And it's that's like like I said before, that's something that I've always wanted to do of, everybody always asked me, why would you put yourself through this? You know, I I love politics. I grew up I grew up, you know, when when I was 18 years old, I took government, and we've we've had this conversation before. It was enlightening. And ever since then, I've been into politics, and now I have an opportunity to lead and to be able to make this county better and to, you know, think of the families in this man in this county that have been living here longer than I have and and hope that I can be affected and do something for them, you know. Well, that's good. We're gonna hold your feet to the fire, buddy. Hey. Go for it, man. Alright. You're ready? It's already on the fire, man. It's already there. Well, we'll we'll we'll keep you on the level.
[01:16:52] Unknown:
Of course. We, but but for the folks that are watching that that maybe not familiar with my show, we don't I don't really dip into the local stuff, you know. That's I leave that for him because he's the expert on that stuff. I I I like I like the broader spectrum of things, you know. So it it's, it's a but it's but it's a but it's great though. But it's great though to where's the echo coming from? Where's the echo coming from? Oh, is there an echo? Yes. Uh-oh. Like, it wasn't there a minute ago. It wasn't there a minute ago. Uh-oh. Hold on. Are we good now? Let me see. It's coming on my end. Oh, there it goes. Okay. Uh-oh.
I got it. Okay. We're good. Yes. That was weird. I heard myself. So what's going on here? Are we being hacked? You know what? I wouldn't be surprised, man. I I I honestly wouldn't be surprised. But,
[01:17:47] Unknown:
telephone. Sorry. It's my, God call. It's probably my my blue I probably need to turn my Bluetooth off. Like, actually, my son was actually messing with my Rodecaster earlier. He wants to podcast. So Oh, that's right. Yeah. You mentioned that. Yeah. He did. Yeah. So now all my settings are jacked up, and that's the first thing. I'm like, hey, don't mess with the settings, and there we go. So Yeah. That happens. So so, so what what are the plans for Thanksgiving, buddy? You know what? We did have Thanksgiving dinner just a little while ago. As you can see, I'm in my, you know, my I don't well, I I I like to dress nice too on regular occasions, but, you know, I'm You're in your four inch fast bastard.
Yeah. We had an early Thanksgiving dinner, early with the family, and, you know, I I I have to work tomorrow morning. So Me too. I'll be working the holiday, and and sometimes you just gotta you gotta adjust, you know. Sure. Sure. I'll be working tomorrow too. I was telling our previous guest, doctor Weber that,
[01:18:37] Unknown:
I have a little turkey for me and the kids, and you know my kids, the dogs. So I have a little turkey for me and the kids, and, so I'll be when we finish here, in about ten minutes, I'm gonna go run and start getting that thing ready because I have to work tomorrow too. So it'll be, so I don't have to do too much when I get back. So it'll be fun. Looking forward to it actually, you know. I I did it last year, did the same thing, you know, small little thing and just just for us. It was a lot of fun, you know, just me and the kids and, you know, afterwards we got to fight over the bones and no. I'm kidding. Of course. Rolling rolling around the floor, you know, the three of us fighting over the wishbones. But, You you ever go out of town for for Thanksgiving? Or not re no. It's been a bit. The last time I went out was, two years ago, I went to my sister's, up in New York. And, that was fun. That was a that was a, thirty six hour road trip between with with me and the kids in the car, and driving from Eagle Pass to New York and back. That was a lot of fun.
[01:19:34] Unknown:
Oh, okay. But,
[01:19:36] Unknown:
but, yeah, no. I I couldn't do it this year. It's just not that I didn't wanna see my sister. I didn't. But the, the idea of actually getting in the car and driving for thirty six hours didn't exactly appeal to me. Yeah. No. That that's I've done I've done it so many I I think I made the drive about eight times, maybe 10 times, and, you know, back and forth. And so the idea of having to do it again just didn't resonate with me, and I'm and I I can't take them on a plane. So they're they're too hyper to go on a plane. So that that would be absolute death right there. So Oh, yeah. So that's that. So it's just be us just be us gonna roll on the floor and fight over the chicken bone the turkey bones, afterwards.
[01:20:24] Unknown:
Hey, man. There's
[01:20:26] Unknown:
nothing like Thanksgiving when you're spending time with family, whether they're furry That's right. You know, or, you know, your family members. Absolutely right. Family members. So, so what's on the horizon before I let you go for, so you enjoy the rest of your evening with your family? So what's on the horizon for, Now You Know Eagle Pass? Are you still gonna be able to do the show if, if you're in position as a county judge?
[01:20:47] Unknown:
The most definitely not. But I I will find someone else. I will find a successor. So, I mean, we we we we we've been thinking about that for a while. You know, my my management team, my my producer, Veronica, they all asked me, like, what are we gonna do with the podcast? And, you know, if you do win and you are elected, obviously, like, I can't be a county judge here and be on the podcast, but, no. We'll definitely find a successor. We we we just wanna keep it going. And who knows? You know, it's, it's we have an entire year to think about it. So on top of that, on top of campaigning and on top of, you know, getting things geared up, we're we'll we'll find somebody. Understand it. Alright. Well, anything I can do to help you out with that, you just let me know, you know, whatever I can help you. You got it, man. Absolutely. And we definitely wanna share, you know, the Joe Root Show on the on the podcast channel so we can get some more viewers in and get everybody enlightened on what you talk about and Please.
[01:21:46] Unknown:
Get the word out there, you know. Yeah. We need we need we need a little bit of a boost. But, actually, we're doing alright, you know. Actually, but we're Oh, you're doing great. I think you're you're the audio, you know, the audio platform is is
[01:21:57] Unknown:
is gangbusters is what I'm seeing. So all the downloads and stuff. Right? Oh, yeah. I have, we're actually
[01:22:03] Unknown:
coming up on, 20,000 downloads.
[01:22:05] Unknown:
There you go, man. You know, sometimes podcasting is the, you know, we you appeal to the the odd the the video audience, and then you, you know, you appeal to the the the, the audio audience. So the audio audience has been here before the the video audience. So For sure. Yeah. Yeah. Definitely have a bigger following on the audio, than the music. Absolutely. And and it's, like, before I let you go, like, that's why I love the radio. Yeah. You know, I would never when I was working with the radio station here, I really didn't wanna be live on Facebook because you when I was a kid, you you wanna it it kinda takes that mystique away. You know what I mean? You wanna kinda know what the voice looks like behind the mic. Yeah. You know? And you're just kind of imagining your your your your mind is just wandering. So,
[01:22:48] Unknown:
you know, that's the same thing for podcasting. And then reality sets in. You got an old man and, you know?
[01:22:56] Unknown:
But, yeah. You know, it's just it's like almost like when COVID happened and then, like, everybody was wearing a mask and, like, you're trying to figure out what their face looks like. And then when you take the mask off, it's totally different than what you thought it was. Yeah. It's pretty freaked out. So that's why, like, when COVID ended Put the mask back on. I was trying to, like I recognize you from your eyes, not your face. That that was just
[01:23:16] Unknown:
yeah. It was pretty that was pretty wild. The eyes the eyes and the voices. Yeah. That's that's about it. That's how you do it. Yeah. Yep. Pretty much. But, but but, you know, it's it's what it is. I I love the idea of doing radio and, like, and you know this. When I first started doing this show, it was strictly intended just to be audio. Like, Like, I wasn't really planning on doing video, but we ended up getting suckered into the video stuff, and and here we are. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But it's funny because, you know, I was actually talking with, with Angela today, about a couple of different things, like things about monetizing and and, and and charging, you know, fees, and booking fees, and things like that. And Yeah. And, and, you know, whether it do you need to have a video cast to be successful, or or audio, whichever. And it there's like a divide. It's like a fifty fifty divide that I've seen so far. You have some people to say, yes, you need to do this, you need to charge. I I I came across somebody that that actually charges guests over $2,000 to be a guest on their podcast.
Oh, wow. You know, and then at the same time, and and and he'll tell you, you need to do that. That's how you generate res revenue, and if your podcast is big enough that, you know, you can attract someone that can do that, that's great, you know, so on and so forth. But you need to charge, you know, folks to do this because then you're gonna get the serious guests. You're gonna get the people who are really invested in what they're teaching or preaching or or or or publicizing or publishing, whatever it might be. And then you get the other people that say, no, you can't do that. Don't ever do that. That's that's inappropriate. That's wrong. You shouldn't do that.
[01:24:49] Unknown:
So so what do you do? You know? You know, it's like, what do you do? Yeah. It's definitely but you have to make something. I mean, that's I mean, yeah. It's our passion to do podcasting and to to interview people and and give the audience a broad spectrum of what people's stories are. I mean, that's the art of it. Mhmm. And on top of that, I mean, you have a business to run. You know what I mean? And, I know damn well Joe Rogan is not doing his podcast for free. You know what I mean? So if you're good at something, just never do it for free, I guess. You know? But I I, on the other hand, just like you, we were starting out. We're not Joe Rogan yet. We're not, what's his name?
Von? What kind of the other podcaster that interviewed Donald Trump. I can't remember what his name was. He's a comedian. Oh, yeah. I I know you're talking about it. I can't think of it either. Theo Von. There you go. Theo Theo. Yes. Alright. Yeah. Theo. Over evil. We're not as big as that yet. So that's why, like, I never really took a cent from any of my sponsors when I had them. It just money was there. I have a regular job,
[01:25:51] Unknown:
but it would be nice. Yeah. Sure. It'd be nice to offset some of the expenses that you have to pay. Have to cover it out of pocket. I mean, it's Yeah. It's almost personal. Like a street card cost money. We all know that. Shh. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Drop we dropped one. Oh, I did it earlier too. I said bullshit. So that's alright. Okay. That's alright. Let's let's see if Apple let's see if Apple slaps the e on this on this episode because I used the word twice. Oh, okay. It's crazy. Alright, Ruben. I know you wanna get back to your family, and I don't wanna keep you too long. Thank you for jumping on here. Like I said, the reason my my motivation was to tell you to your face, thank you for all the support and all the help you've been since we met, and love working with you. I'm looking forward to what we can do, see what kind of damage we can do down the road.
[01:26:37] Unknown:
Absolutely. Absolutely. Like I said, you know, this isn't the this isn't the end. We're still gonna we're still gonna do the podcast. We're still, you know, as I'm campaigning, and it's gonna be kinda weird because, I mean, yeah, I can't I can't promote myself on my podcast, but I can, like, promote other candidates, like, everybody. Mhmm. Everybody is welcome on the podcast. And if they wanna put their message out, for this election cycle, it's great. You know, I can just talk about myself. You can come on this podcast and then talk about your campaign. They perfect.
Perfect, man. That those are my thoughts exactly. And Alright. Again, I'm thankful for you too, Joe. Thank you so much for,
[01:27:11] Unknown:
you know, I feel like you're kind of a mentor to me. So, I mean, it it's great, learning more on the horizon of podcasting. Thanks to, you know, hanging out with you and doing this kind of stuff, and it's been great, man. I appreciate it. Awesome, brother. Thank you so much. Have a happy Thanksgiving. My best to your family, and, I'll talk to you, next week. You got it, man. Alright. Take it easy. God bless you. Have a great night. Ruben Ruben Calamillo from the Now You Know Eagle Pass podcast. Make sure you check him out on Fakebook. You can check him out. Also, he's on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, all those places. Check him out. Great stuff. And, you're gonna learn something. If you're really interested, especially if you're local, if you're really interested in local politics and the local scene, he really has his finger on the pulse of a lot of the stuff going on around town here. So, if you really wanna check it out and get more involved and get to know more about it, that's the place to do it. So check him out, the Now You Know Eagle Pass podcast, and, you're gonna you're gonna know a few things about Eagle Pass. So and, some good, some not so good, but you're gonna get a straight deal with Ruben and his crew. So make sure you check them out. Alright, folks. I think, let's move on here really quickly to Pro HVAC r Solutions.
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[01:35:50] Unknown:
Until we meet again.
Cold open: cryptic numbers and Shakespeare snippets
Show intro from Eagle Pass and Thanksgiving vibe
Host’s pets, gratitude, and holiday plans
Tonight’s lineup: Dr. Don Weber and Ruben Camarillo
Connecting with the audience and contact methods
Value-for-value philosophy and supporting the show
Guest intro: Dr. Don Weber’s intelligence background
Icebreakers: who to have coffee with and why
Unwinding routines, meditation, and tech hiccups
Life as a field operative: stress, cover, and identity
Managing multiple legends and protecting loved ones
Transitioning out: faith, language study, and healing
From intel to instructor: corporate training journey
Reading motives vs. body language myths
Nonverbal communication: baselining and context
Leaders, ego, and seeing reality clearly
Speaking to connect: authenticity over scripts
Comparing political speaking styles and trust
Persuasion in practice: adjusting to the room
Live show curveballs: rapture joke and tech drop
Building rapport before you speak
Origins in internet radio and backyard banter style
Live vs. pre‑recorded: energy, risk, and growth
Wild moments on air: broken chairs and blue cats
Handling meltdowns: strategic empathy
Mindfulness and self‑awareness for leaders
Faith, values, and cultural clarity
Wrapping with Dr. Weber and plans to return
Thanksgiving segment with Ruben Camarillo
Local politics and a county judge run
Holiday plans, family, and travel tales
What’s next for the Now You Know podcast
Audio vs. video, monetization, and growth paths
Goodbyes to Ruben and local plug
Announcements and producer shout‑outs
How to support: producers, sats, and crypto
Schedule, upcoming crypto episode, and sign‑off
