In tonight’s live show from Eagle Pass, I welcomed veteran journalist and author Patrick Sangimino for a candid, wide-ranging conversation about the rise and unraveling of American newspapers, life on the NFL beat, and the human stories at the heart of his debut novel, Dogs Chase Cars. Patrick shared how decades in newsrooms shaped his perspective on technology’s double-edged impact, why Twitter-era athletes no longer “need” the press, and the moment he realized the industry was changing for good. We dug into the newsroom’s daily miracle, the lost art of local reporting, and the personal costs of chasing stories at the expense of relationships—anchored by a touching father-son thread and a memorable title origin you won’t forget.
We also touched briefly on breaking headlines about an Israel–Hamas peace plan announcement, before pivoting to a spirited second hour with executive producer Wayne Rankin on everything from costs of living and church culture shifts to interstellar curiosities and the comfort of simple, unplugged living. It was an easygoing, long-form night of real talk, sports memories, Italian food rants, and a heartfelt challenge to value people over paychecks.
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(00:04:07) Cold open and show intro from Eagle Pass
(00:05:01) Tonight’s lineup: Patrick San Gimino and Wayne Rankin
(00:07:01) Breaking: Trump touts phase one Israel–Hamas peace plan
(00:09:28) Audience engagement and value-for-value housekeeping
(00:10:21) Guest intro: Patrick San Gimino on journalism and his novel
(00:11:43) Warm-up: two questions—unknown facts and unwind beverages
(00:15:36) Italian roots, food culture, and life outside NYC
(00:19:04) Real Italian vs. “Italian”: deli talk and Olive Garden gripes
(00:19:24) Prosciutto quests and cooking stories
(00:19:35) From sports fan to sportswriter: origin story
(00:19:35) Covering the NFL: the beat, travel, and media machine
(00:21:14) Dogs Chase Cars: fiction rooted in newsroom reality
(00:23:30) Digital disruption: classifieds collapse and Twitter’s rise
(00:25:52) Athletes as brands: Ochocinco and the press box epiphany
(00:26:30) What’s missed and not missed about newsrooms
(00:27:34) The daily miracle of print and why it faded
(00:31:36) Title story: why Dogs Chase Cars and the life metaphor
(00:34:26) One-day structure and the “godwink” flashbacks
(00:36:02) Media arrogance then, survival mode now
(00:37:15) Trump vs. media and the 24/7 cycle
(00:45:12) Long-form conversations and organic rabbit holes
(00:47:46) How local newsrooms really work behind the scenes
(00:48:44) What’s next for the protagonist—and for Patrick
(00:51:06) AI in journalism: tells, tone, and authenticity
(00:56:52) What readers should take away: work, love, and regret
(00:59:41) Italian sports lineage: Vince Lombardi stories
(01:04:32) Who inspires Patrick now: JD Vance and Rubio talk
(01:04:44) Where to find the book and signing plans
(01:05:58) Hour two reset and Wayne Rankin joins
(01:11:45) Platforms, live streams, and Rumble shout-outs
(01:11:59) Wayne on the reported Israel–Hamas peace development
(01:15:09) War fatigue, costs of living, and a weary public
(01:19:11) Fact-check mindset: taxes, budgets, and bills
(01:24:14) Schemers, media, and power: Joker analogies
(01:25:52) Detroit sports interlude and fandom
(01:26:45) Building Wayne’s vidcast: green screen plans
(01:33:54) Prosperity gospel vs. Bible preaching trends
(01:39:18) Phones, indifference, and a weary culture
(01:43:49) 3I/ATLAS comet chat and interdimensional musings
(01:50:38) Kaiju corner: Godzilla love and Minus One
(01:55:37) Simple pleasures: life in the mountains
(02:05:26) Closing reflections and prayer
(02:08:43) Thank-yous, support links, and goodnight
- Wayne Rankin
- Rosanna Rankin
- Carolina Jimenez
[00:04:08]
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Transmitting live from the asylum studios deep in the bowels of Southwest Texas. It's the Joe Ruge Show. The show where we talk about anything and everything. Where nothing is sacred, nothing is watered down, and nothing is PC. Alrighty. Hey, folks. This is Joe Roos, and it is great to be with you again on a Wednesday evening, transmitting live from the asylum studios from the pimple on the backside of Texas, the beautiful city of Eagle Pass, and doing the very best weekend to bring you the best quality talk radio we can muster without all the bluster.
Welcome to the Joe Rouge Show. Folks, it is great to be with you again. I know I say it many, many times throughout the course of the opening of the show, but it really is truly great to be with you guys. I love spending my evenings with you, and, we got a good show for you tonight. We got a pack one for you. Waiting in the wings, we have Patrick Sangamino, if I did not say it right. I know I did not. And it's funny, I've been practicing it all day, bro. I know he's watching in the wings. But, also we have Wayne Rankin joining us in the second hour, so that's gonna be great, great conversation.
Well, a lot of interesting things took place right before the start of the show. I suppose, the one thing that we should mention, and, I'll pull the graphic up here really quickly, and we're not gonna spend any time talking about it tonight because we do wanna make sure we get to our guest. But, actually, you know what? Before we actually do that, before we bring before I, put the graphic up there, let's let's do our our our, sponsor read. Folks, tonight's show is brought to you by podhome.fm. Podhome.fm is the most modern and easy to use podcast hosting platform. You can use it to publish your episodes, enhance your audio, automatically generate transcripts, chapters, titles, show notes, and more. And folks, you can even podcast live, which is exactly what we're doing on the audio stream as, as well as the video stream.
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Well, that's great. It's fantastic that, you know, the first phases of this peace plan are in are in are in place. I didn't really get a chance to spend too much time contemplating this, but this was a big announcement today. So I wanted to make sure I brought it to your attention, before we got started here tonight. So, let me know what you think about that. You can always leave a comment right there down below or, shoot us an email over at [email protected]. Alright. Also, before we get into it, don't forget to head over to our website, joeroos.com. Joeroos.com.
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Patrick, welcome to the show.
[00:10:22] Unknown:
Thanks for having me, Joe. I don't know how I'm supposed to compete with peace in The Middle East, but I'm gonna try. Well, we'll we'll we'll somehow work it out. We'll we'll give you some credit somewhere along the way for it. That's that's an amazing story. I I should be buried in the, you know, page
[00:10:37] Unknown:
18 of the paper right now Yeah. While you, work on this one. Yeah. Well, we'll get there. We'll get there at some point. When we originally started this show, sir, we we, the the the intent of the show was to do political commentary, opinions Mhmm. And and such. But, I think I think the forces of the universe had an alternate direction for this thing to go. So, we don't spend very much time talking politics anymore, but, we're gonna, you know, kinda work our way back into it at some point. But how are you? How's that how's everything going on your end, sir?
[00:11:08] Unknown:
Everything's going good. It's, you know, it's, life moves forward. Everything happens for a purpose. And, you know, I cannot complain. I have, since relocated from the Midwest back to my home state of California. I can't say I'm in love with the state of California and and the wackiness, but, but
[00:11:29] Unknown:
we'll leave it at that. Yeah. Probably some things are better left unsaid. Right? Alright. Well, I don't know if you've, checked out any of the other shows that I've that we've done, but, I always ask my my guests two very important questions to start the show off with. So Yep. We'll see if you're ready for it or not. What is something that most people don't know about you but should?
[00:11:52] Unknown:
Most people don't know about me but should? Well, I am a I'm an avid sports fan, grew up in a sports family, realized, when I was very young, I was small, slow, and couldn't hit a curveball, so I was never gonna play, infield for San Francisco Giants. But, found my way into sports writing thanks to a a show called The Odd Couple and and Oscar Madison. I was a big fan of his and, Jack Klugman and the way he played that character. And and, yeah, that's something
[00:12:28] Unknown:
many people don't know about me. That was one of my favorite shows. It it really was, and I used to love to sit there. I mean, I was very young when it first started, but I so I caught the latter years of it. But I I used to love to sit there and watch the reruns on channel eleven up in New York. It was it was great. It was I I love that show. It was great. I I never had a tuna fish sandwich under my pillow or anything like that, and thankfully, I never did. Oh, good. But, I have. You know, I I avoided the sloppiness, but his lifestyle was just something that I was just so enamored with at a young age, and I knew what I wanted to do. Yeah. That's it's, that's great. It's a great analogy too. It's it's so it's a it's a great lifestyle to to to do what you love to do. It it's there there's nothing better in the world than that. It's because it's not like going to work every day, it's actually doing what you love. And Exactly. That's kinda like how I feel with the podcast stuff. You know, it's like I have a job, I have a regular job, you know, it's
[00:13:22] Unknown:
my job, but I love to do this. I love I could tell it's I could tell it's a labor of love with you. Oh, thanks. You know, the way you the way you, have just embraced it, and and, even the first five minutes here, I feel very welcome. So Of course. We hope so. Carry on. I'm I'm a little nervous about about question two, but go for it. Two is, what is your go to beverage to help you unwind at the end of the day? You know, back in the early days, I think it would have been something alcoholic. But right now, it's more of a a cup of, a cup of tea or or, I I wish I could drink coffee all day like I used to, but, can't do it anymore. So I've kind of found the tea thing. Yeah. I I know what you're saying.
[00:14:08] Unknown:
I I'm a bourbon guy. I love my bourbons. Yeah. I had at at one point, I had an extensive collection of bourbons. And, I thought you were pulling up a bottle of bourbon. I was like, oh, wait. Let me go get my
[00:14:21] Unknown:
That was just water.
[00:14:23] Unknown:
Now now have you ever done the bourbon tour down in Kentucky? No. Not yet. I'm planning on it, though. Okay. I'm totally planning on it. So, so, you know, bourbon use it usually been my go to. Right now, I I've been I've been sampling brandies. I I don't know why I just decided one day I went to try some brandy, so I I bought a couple of bottles. And, so every every evening well, not every evening, but weekends. I'll, after I get out of work and I realized that, you know, I didn't hurt anybody while I was there, I'll have a cigar and a brandy or a cigar and a bourbon and just relax, you know, kinda take take a drink. Grandmother,
[00:14:58] Unknown:
whenever we got sick, it was bourbon with a a cube of sugar in it. Yeah. Yeah. Same thing. Same thing.
[00:15:06] Unknown:
My grandmother, my grandmother wasn't a pure blood pure bread Italian. She was, she was Italian German, but my grandfather was, pure Sicilian. So Oh, it's okay. Good. I'm Sicilian myself. Got the best of both worlds, my friend. Got the best of both worlds. There you go. And, and I'm on my on my mom and dad. Well, my mom obviously is mixed in my my grandparents, but my dad's side was pure Italian off the boat. I think my dad was third generation American. Okay. So, so I just great. I love it. And and it's funny because when I lived in New York, you know, I kinda took it for granted.
You know, the Italian heritage and all the accessibility to all the stuff, you know, for Italian food and restaurants and stuff. And then I came here, and it's like I went I went to our local supermarket one day, and I was like, no. I'm gonna I wanna make something. I'm gonna make, my signature dish is is a is a fettuccine with sweet peas prosciutto and a white wine sauce. Okay. That sounds good. Oh, it's amazing. It's that's that that's my signature thing, and I hadn't had it in a while, and I felt like making it one night, so, I went to the local supermarket, and I'm looking around, and I'm like, okay, Where where's where's the prosciut? You know?
I go up to the deli counter, and I and I asked the girl there. I was like, hey, do you have any prosciut? She was like, pro what? Prosciut. What's that? It's an Italian cured ham. You don't have prosciut? She was like, no. I don't think so. So, so yeah, that kind of threw a threw a wrench into my plans, but but I went to Walmart of all places. Walmart. They did not have it behind the deli counter at Walmart, but I don't know if you ever see those, those those mozzarella sticks with the with the prosciut wrap around them? They had like four packages of it left, so I grabbed all four packages, and I was like, I am making this thing tonight, and that's it. And You made it work. That's it. Yeah. Absolutely. But you could also use pancetta. You can. You know, it it changes the flavor profile slightly because it's a little bit more of a smoky flavor with the pancetta. But, it was so good. It came out so good. You know? My mom would be like this right now.
[00:17:27] Unknown:
It's it's a different world. I I know when I moved to the Midwest, it was, finding a good delicatessen. There were no delis there. Mm-mm.
[00:17:35] Unknown:
You know? And and they think going to Subway is getting a sandwich. Oh, please. God. Yes. I know that I I the same thing here. It's it's ridiculous. Have you have you tried the the the meatball Parmesan sandwich? The the no. I'm sorry. Let me let me correct it. The meatball Parmigiana sandwich at at at Subway. I'm like, no. I didn't. I'm not going to either.
[00:17:58] Unknown:
First of all when they say when they say, we have good Italian food here. Italian. And I said, is that straight from Italy?
[00:18:10] Unknown:
All the rage here right now is that that they're opening up an olive garden. Oh, no. And I'm like, don't Don't get me started. Don't get me started. That is such an insult to an Italian olive garden. It is not Italian food. On it, and let's and overcook the pasta. That'll do it. Yeah. And and and, you know, what some what some people don't don't know also is that Alfredo. Because the big thing is, like, oh, they're chicken Alfredo. There is no such thing as Alfredo sauce, by the way. And in Italy, there is no if you go into an Italian restaurant in Italy and say, you wanted something Alfredo, they will look at you like you have six heads and probably kick you out of the place. There is no such thing.
Yeah. It's an Americanized dish, and it's like, oh, please, man. You know, don't get me started. I got I I I needed to talk to a to an Italian.
[00:18:58] Unknown:
Evan has Alright, my son. You know where to come when you need some. When you need to, vent a little bit. Yeah. Yes. Absolutely, sir. Just come back when you need some. Absolutely.
[00:19:06] Unknown:
So, so, so so you your your journey's been shaped by, your experiences as a journalist. Tell us,
[00:19:15] Unknown:
your life. Tell us about your life as a journalist covering the NFL for, what, for eight seasons? Is that right? Eight seasons? I I covered it as for eight seasons as a as a beat reporter, and then I became a columnist. So I got to spend a few more years doing it. And, it's a blast. I mean, it's a it's the NFL is the world's largest public relations machine. Everything is set up just to just for public relations purposes. And you know what you're doing every day. It's it's as a beat reporter, it gets to be a little merry-go-roundish where you know exactly what's going on. And after eight seasons, you're ready for something new. But but I all also said it's the perfect single man's job. Because think about it. You leave on Saturday morning, go on a trip.
You, arrive at the team motel. Mhmm. You wait for the, for the for the team to arrive because you don't wanna have to write that story about a cargo or a jetliner traveling with an NFL team crashing. The cover bay. Yeah. So you make sure they get there. Find out if there's, everything's okay. You you, send your story, your previous story for tomorrow's game, then you go out with your the boys, and you find a restaurant and a bar, and you eat and drink until it closes. You go to bed. You wake up at ten in the morning. You get to the stadium, have some breakfast there, and you watch a football game, and you talk to some people, and you ride a little bit, and then you do the same thing and come home Monday night or Monday morning.
[00:20:50] Unknown:
So Yeah. It is it's it is yeah. I guess that is the good, a good definition of the single man's life. But we see when you said it though, the first thing that popped in my mind were the cheerleaders. So You know? Yes.
[00:21:02] Unknown:
So interesting. They they tended to like the guys that had a lot of zeros at the end of their paycheck. So,
[00:21:08] Unknown:
you know, and sportswriters technically didn't have that unless you count the decimal points, and nobody counts those. No. Nobody ever does. No. Yeah. Now we're gonna talk about your book, Dogs Chase Cars tonight, but, it it's and it sounds like the book is actually, I guess, mirroring some of your experiences,
[00:21:25] Unknown:
in the world Yeah. It is. And and and it's more of a it's written through the eyes of a fake, a fictional character, but he's, he's got a lot of me in him. He he's got, he's a little more of a, lack of a better word. He's a little more of an asshole than I am. Okay. So, I don't know if I could say that in the air. Am I gonna go deeper or anything? No. You say what you want. Okay. Thanks. So he's a little bit more, blunt. He's, he's a grumpy old man who's kinda watching the world that he loved just change dramatically before his eyes. He's watching, his industry just kinda go down the drain.
It's circling the drain quickly, and and, he sees it. He's watching newsrooms get gutted. He's he's watching technology come in. And for all of the good technology has done, it's done far more worse, to society and and the journalism industry I agree with you. As a whole, which is another topic in itself. So it's, it's just an interesting, dichotomy of life where he's doing something he absolutely loves, but the what he what he loves to do is almost becoming antiquated.
[00:22:48] Unknown:
Mhmm.
[00:22:50] Unknown:
Well, how much is how much of the book is inspired by your own experiences, and how much is the fiction? You know, a lot of the sports stories that are in there are are actual sports stories that took place, and they they involve a lot of the, the names you would recognize. And some of them are the the actual story itself is fiction. So I wrapped a fictitious story about a guy about to lose his job in a newspaper, that was about to go down the tubes, around some real life stories, which made it really kind of fun and challenging to do in a lot of ways.
[00:23:31] Unknown:
I know you mentioned technology, not exactly being the best thing in the world to happen, especially the rise of digital news. How did that actually change the business model?
[00:23:44] Unknown:
You know, I I honestly believe that in the, in the eighties and nineties, newspapers were making such regular profits. You know, just steady 18 to 20% a year. And if they would have invested in something like Google or something like what was coming down the line, they would have been the leaders of this whole thing, and they would have been on the on the forefront of it all. And as a result, they just got real, complacent and and lazy about, hey. We're the newspaper industry. We're always gonna be this way. People are gonna pick up our our product. It's gonna be on their doorstep every morning, and here and here we go. Well, all of a sudden, it it comes a classified ad is is antique by the time it gets on the pay in the paper because it could be on on the Internet for, you know, two hours and at any point. Right. There's no need to advertise classified in in a newspaper anymore. So all of a sudden, six pages of classified advertising, which brought in thousands of dollars a day, is gone away.
Same thing happens with car ads and real estate ads, and and Right. You're screwed. And then yeah. I I I can understand that completely. Now,
[00:25:07] Unknown:
was there a specific point, when when this whole, you know, print to clicks transition took place that that you thought that, man, this is never gonna be the same again?
[00:25:18] Unknown:
You know, I remember I remember, I was I was a columnist at the time, and and, I don't know how big a sports fan you are. I love I love my baseball and my hockey. Okay. There there was a football player named Chad Johnson who changed his name to his uniform number, Chad Ochocinco. Oh, yeah. At at at, one point. And he was the first guy I remember who embraced Twitter. And he would he went directly to his to his, followers, and he would tweet every day. Mhmm. And I remember sitting in the press box one day, and I said, this guy doesn't need us anymore. And what's gonna happen when all of them catch this and they realize that they own their own brands and they're gonna be able to do this? Yeah. There there's gonna be less of a need for us because there people are gonna go directly to Twitter and get, you know, right from the horse's mouth. Does that make sense? Yeah. It does, actually. Yeah. I never thought of it that way. That that's yeah. They could get to control their own brand. That's a great way to put it too. Yeah.
[00:26:24] Unknown:
So what's something though that you still miss about being in the newsroom and something you'll never miss?
[00:26:31] Unknown:
I absolutely loved every day in a newsroom. Well, not every day. Some days are worse than others, but but there is a, there is something about being surrounded by creative, smart, funny, hardworking people who are all working towards the same goal as you. I mean, think about it. You start with an inkling of an idea, a little seed. You plant it in the morning, and you start you start, reporting on your story. You watch it grow, and everyone around you is doing the same thing with their stuff. By midafternoon, you've got ten, twenty stories now because everybody's working on stories.
And and then the editors get in, and they start figuring out, wow. We got a lot of stuff today. How are we gonna place this all? And they they make these, decisions. And then the layout people get their hands on it, and they put it all together. And then the print the the print shop gets their hands on it. So it's touched hundreds of people over a course of a day. And this daily miracle, which started as just a little seed, turns into a newspaper that always arrives the next morning on somebody's doorstep. It's not gonna be as good as it could be every day.
And and the days that it's not, you recognize it. But it has been it it's been put into into place that this system, this process is time tested. It's always going to work. You know? There's only been one time in my life when the paper didn't come out the next day, and it took a 7.1 earthquake in San Francisco in 1989 for that to happen. Well, that's
[00:28:11] Unknown:
I can I remember it? Yeah. And you're right. Because I I'm thinking as you said that that growing up, I only remember not getting a newspaper delivered to the house because that was my dad loved to sit down and Yeah. Have his morning coffee and sit there and go through the paper, but I I can only I can think of just one period of time where it didn't ever get to the house, and that was when we had this huge blizzard back in back in the late seventies, back in in New York. And, that's the only time I can think that the newspaper never showed up at my house.
[00:28:40] Unknown:
And So it's this time tested process that became such a a a proven method for delivering news each day. Yeah. I mean, it was just a it was a wonderful business to be a part of in in the nineteen eighties, the early nineteen eighties when I when I realized that's what I wanted to do. As a matter of fact, I think my dad still got the, the local newspaper in in Staten Island where we lived.
[00:29:11] Unknown:
I think he still got it delivered, maybe up to about a a year or two before he passed away. Wow. You know, he's he still stayed faithful to it. And I used to ask him all the time. I said, dad, why don't you just go go on go online? You can get it faster that way. Leave me alone, boy. I know what I'm doing.
[00:29:29] Unknown:
Exactly. It's that idea of of turning the pages and seeing it right there. Yeah. And and that was the, that was the problem with, the newspaper industry was, everybody knew that the the next phase was gonna be online, but all the money was wrapped up in your print subscribers. They were so devoted to the product that, you know, you you couldn't turn it over on them. You so so, the mere threat of pulling the paper away from them, in print would just cause a revolt.
[00:30:08] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. I I I could see that. And and I understand the cons the the idea behind that too is just loving to hold that thing. Because I'm like that with books, you know. I I love to hold a book in my hand. I don't like reading a book online, a Kindle book, or whatever they call it nowadays, you know. Yeah. Ebooks, whatever. I I don't I I I don't really I don't enjoy that. You know, it it Right. To me, it's it's just I would rather sit down, hold a book, have it laid out in front of me, be able to read it, because I also feel like you can navigate your way through it easier. Like, like, I I I I read my bible every day. Alright? Okay. I love to be able to go here, keep my hand here, hold this page, go back here, compare what I'm reading from back and forth. You do that, you can't do that with an ebook.
Right. You know, it's it's when you can, but it's it's so much more complicated. You gotta find where you were, you gotta go back, you know. I'd rather have the book. And I left my studio door open, and my my my my kids have just come in here. Hey, guys. Hey, guys. You'll be quiet. Okay? I'm gonna leave them in here. My kids are my dogs, by the way. So Okay. So Mine I got my boy my boy, Charlie, and my girl, Beanie. So, yeah, guys, go lay down and play. So, sorry about didn't mean to interrupt you. No. No problem. No problem. Where were we? Alright. So we're gonna start talking about your book right now. And and Alright. Ironically enough I thought we were already. The dogs the the dogs have come in. So, so dogs chase cars. Tell us about that title.
Where did you get that?
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So the the title makes people laugh when I tell them. When I was, when I was in high school, I had a I had a teacher. Well, I should start off by saying, I I was talking with a girl one day, my senior year of high school, right around lunchtime. And for some reason, she was receptive to my advances this time. And the bell rings, and it's time for me to get to class. And I'm like, no. There's no way I'm going to class right now. I'm talking to this girl. Mhmm. And class is right across the hall, and I could see I could see my teacher at the door, and he's looking at me. And he's not real happy, but he sees me talking to this girl. And so I show up about ten minutes late. And I walk in, and I said, sorry. I was talking to somebody. And he looked at me, and he said, dogs chase cars, but they can't drive them.
Oh. And and and, Well, that's profound. It was it was so profound, and it and it was this this I was probably too dumb to be embarrassed by it, but I always remembered the line. And I was thought, wow. What a great line. And and and then it became this metaphor in life for me. Like, what happens if, you're or, what happens when you catch the car? What happens when you're chasing the car? What happens when you're chasing anything and you catch it? Do you have the wherewithal to know what to do with it? And, and it just became this metaphor on life, chasing stories, chasing people, chasing relationships.
And the story became the story is is big in newspapers, but it's also a story about relationships and and the, the failed ones. And what do you do when you get the girl? Do you know how to keep the girl? And or do you take it for granted that she's always gonna be around? And it and it just teaches there there is a cautionary tale in this book about, really, striking a balance between home and work life. Mhmm. Because there has to be the people who are in your life have to matter more than the paycheck you're getting every day. I agree with that. That's great. I like that. Yeah. So that's kind of a a recurring theme, and there's a father, some, son angle where this guy never really, appreciates what his father meant to him till two years after he dies, you know, where he just goes, wow. This guy was amazing, and I took it for granted. Mhmm.
So
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Now now the story that that you tell in in, in Dogs Chase Cars unfolds over a single day in the life of a sports columnist. So why did you choose the one day structure and, to tell such a big story?
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You know, it it it just kinda happened. It it it was this. You're driving to work on this, this pinnacle day, this day of, you know, your your day of reckoning. You've had one job in thirty two years. And here you are, and you're flashing back to all of the people and all of the moments, the seminal moments in your life. And the, I'm very big in you're you're familiar with a god wink. Right? Yes. Yeah. And god winks are just something I believe so strongly in. And, the problem with when you're young and naive is you don't recognize these things until twenty, thirty, forty years later, and you went, woah.
That's what that was about. Yeah. And so so, you you're just revisiting all of these little godwinks of how you got here and what prompted you to get here. But it also brings you to the mistakes you've made in life and why you're here on this day when you're about to lose your job and you're all alone. So there's something very sad about it at the end of the day, not because he's losing his job, but because he's he's there. He he he's kind of made his bed. He's reaped what he sowed in a lot of ways.
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Now the book also looks at, or addresses arrogance of media, executives, who always looked at, like, profits are never gonna fade. Yes. Do you think that that's that same arrogance still exists in the media today?
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No. I think they are in total survival mode right now. And I think it's led to the problem we have with, with our, trusting of media right now. I don't think Donald Trump did anything more than expose the media for for its its bad, form in the last twenty, thirty years. You know? Yeah. He just point. He became a he became the bullhorn for all of this, and he brought he brought receipts. And and if you watch the last ten years, the media has never looked more silly than he's made them look.
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Yeah. That's a that's a great point. He has made them look very silly, and one of the things I like about the president is the fact that he takes it right to them. Yes. And and he lets them have it. I mean and I think he I think he's even more so now than he was in his first term, and I think that's primarily because he he has nothing to lose at this point.
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Yeah. He's got no, he's got no, next term to worry about. Mhmm. He's just
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a Although he does troll the media frequently by putting his Trump 2028 hats on his desk. Yeah. It makes me laugh when he does that. It does. It's funny. The media
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has done such a really poor job of, learning how to deal with him.
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Oh, yeah. They're they're totally just flailing around anytime he does something, says something. First of all, I I think, again, I don't know where where you are on the spectrum politically. You know, doesn't matter to me. I don't really care. But I think that that the left because the media does lean very left. The the, you know, the so there's Oh, absolutely. So there's there's it's it's like, you know, the left doesn't know how to take a joke.
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Right.
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You know? And I think and, of course, I I know president Trump knows that. And so I he does all this stuff intentionally just to get them all riled up and to to and it just gives them headlines. It gives them something other than other things going on in the administration that might not be so great at the moment.
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He he dominates news cycles. Absolutely.
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Absolutely. But do you do you really think there's still a news cycle with the twenty four hour news, every you know, everything covered, like because when you hear news cycle, you're thinking, oh, well, during this period of time, is this going on that period, you know, cyclical thing. But really, everything is just happening, and everything is so rep is reported so fast now. Is it really a cycle? I know we're off topic of the book, but this is, you know No. No. No. I like this. I like this conversation.
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I would imagine that covering the White House would be like drinking out of a fire hose, just because he's so he's so energetic. But, I think they have they have done a really bad job of, I think they were so intent on finding him guilty of something in in his first term Yep. That they just that they just flailed badly.
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Oh, yeah. They they threw whatever they could just to see what would stick, and nothing stuck. And, now, you know, the the quota phrase, and the chickens are coming home to roost. A lot of things taking place, a lot of investigations. Although, I'll I'll be very honest with you, I'm not happy with, with, Pam Bondi. I I don't I don't understand what she's thinking. You know, there's just there it she's gotta do something soon. And I I How so? And and I In what? As far as indictments or or at least moving beyond the investigative stage. Now, I look, I worked in law enforcement. I understand investigations take time. You can't just come run out and and, you know, slap somebody in handcuffs and march them off. I get that. I understand that. But sometimes sometimes I wonder, you know, is she too I think sometimes she's too interested in auditioning for her after the AG job with Fox News than actually working on it. And I've seen her testimonies of it, before the senate. She rips them apart. I get it. It's great. Fantastic. You know, throw it up in their faces. Let them know, you know, they're not angels in any of this stuff. But I think the American people wanna see more movement on these investigations and these cases.
I don't think she's handling a lot of this very well. I like her. I think, you know, I I don't know her personally. I don't care. As As an AG in Florida, I think she she did a a fine job, but I think this might be more than what she's capable of handling.
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I don't know that any one person in that job could handle everything there is, because there's so much.
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Yeah. And and I could I can concede that, but I think you also have to message well, and and she's not messaging well as far as, you know, you know, you you had that whole big staged event with the binders. Remember the binders? With the Epstein stuff, which is all stuff that was already released. It was stuff that was that was already well known about. Files are on my desk. The list is there. We got this. We got that. And now all of a sudden, all the list doesn't exist, there are no files, there's nothing that's and it's just it doesn't it sometimes I just kinda wonder, you know, what exactly is what's the game here? What's going on?
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I think that story is just such a big nothing burger that
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everybody who touches it realizes it. You think? You don't you don't think there's any in anything incriminating in any of those files that that they're trying to cover up and hide?
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No. I I first of all, I think you have to be real careful about what you put out there. Oh, for sure. And, and I think I I don't think you can just throw it out there and just say, here it is. Deal with it.
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Yeah. But the problem is though is that during the campaigns, that's kind of what they intimated that they were gonna do. That if, you know, we're gonna get all this stuff exposed, we're gonna take care of all this business here. I I know that. It does not that wasn't gonna happen. I like I said, I've done investigative work in law enforcement. I understand the whole process of things, and you you can't give out all the information that you have. I know you It's a political hot potato. Yeah. Nobody wants to be holding it. And holding it is the worst thing. Biden held it for how many years? Right. And that's another point too. Everybody, they're they're, you know, they they point the finger at Donald Trump. Listen, if there if Donald Trump was was implicated in any of this stuff during the Biden administration, it would have been all over the place.
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Absolutely.
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That that's the one part of the whole thing they would not hold back. So, so for whatever case it is, I don't know why we're on on this stuff. But Yeah. We got we got a little rabbit hole there, but that's okay. That's fun. Yeah. Bunny trails are fun sometimes. Most of them.
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No. I think I think, Trump has done a really good job of, more exposing my industry. He's embarrassed my industry. I don't know how they recover from it, honestly. And,
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I don't think they are gonna recover from it. You know? Not to the not to the to the degree where they they were held in such a high standard, you know, back in the in the in the fifties, the forties, fifties, sixties. Mhmm. You know? I I think that that air is gone. I think right now alternative media is more trustworthy and reliable in most people's eyes than than the mainstream. I agree with you. So, Yeah. I agree with you. And I think that's and and the the ironic thing is that the alternative media is gonna become the mainstream at some point.
You know? And,
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who knows where it's gonna go from there. Well, because you've watched you've watched some really good journalists, Lucer Jobs, and they have gone on to, this platform, and they've done really well with it. Yeah. You know, you look at Megyn Kelly. I that podcast is great. I listen to it every day. So
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Oh, I I I enjoy her stuff. I I think she's she's I like her more now than I did when she was on Fox News. Right. Because But she was you're so you're under the parameters of of a corporate structure. Right. And now all of a sudden you're your own boss, and you could say what you want and and not worry about it. You're what are they gonna do? Yeah. Exactly. And it it's unleashed. It basically is what it really is. Is. And same thing with with Tucker Carlson. You know, Tucker Carlson says a lot of stuff right now that I don't think he would ever say or be able to say on on I mean, he might, you know, try to get it in here or there, but he he wouldn't be allowed to to say some of the things that he's been saying. Absolutely. On on network TV or Absolutely.
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So it's just a different it's it's a different, you know, Joe Rogan, same thing. Yeah. You know? And and I love his long form interviews, and and, and it if you're gonna go on his show and and spend two hours with him, you better know what you're talking about because he's gonna ask you about it. And and there's something great about that. Yeah. It's fresh. It's refreshing to to see that. And I like I like the fact I I love long form,
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interviews. I I do. And that's that's really the goal that I'm trying to develop with this show, you know, to be more long form and almost almost more like traditional talk radio types Mhmm. Format, you know. I like that. I think that's great. I I enjoy it. I I get more out of that than little sound bites. Well, it's it's where the conversation leads you. Like, I had no idea we were gonna talk about this, but I'm not.
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This is great. I I love the rabbit hole, and and, you know, this is this is refreshing to me. And, this is the way interviews should go. They just go where they
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where they go organically. Yeah. Exactly. Like yeah. And and people know this. I have I have bullets here in front of me, like, some some fully written out questions, some ideas and direction to go. But most of the time, and and my producer Angela, you know, God bless her for dealing with me. I tend to go off the notes quite a bit, but, you know, it but that's the that's that's the whole essence of talk. You know, you have to talk. You have to keep talking. Even if you don't agree, you know? Yes. It's that exchange of ideas, and, you know, I'm not gonna try to convince somebody of my side, and I'm not gonna, you know, and hopefully, they're not gonna try to convince me of their point, but at least we have the dialogue, and we can at least exchange the ideas.
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Absolutely. Absolutely. And and that's I mean, the the great thing about long form interviews is they force you to listen too. Mhmm. Because that next question, you know, it it it's it comes off of the following answer.
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Most of the time. Yeah. Like a previous answer, I should say. Yeah. Yeah. For sure. So, speaking of the question, let's get back to it. Because this one's actually a written out question that I had. What do you Oh, back on script. Backed on script. Yeah. What do you think readers and journalists most misunderstand about local newsrooms or how local newsrooms actually function behind the scenes?
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I think I think they're portrayed as these real energetic places on TV and in movies, and they really are. There is a lot, but there's a lot of downtime too where there's just great debates. And, Yeah. And and we had amazing debates where you actually covered both sides of the story. You know? The be it an election that was coming up or, you know, politics, whatever. There were great debates with people who are willing to listen to you Yeah. Which I always appreciated.
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So what else do you have in the book in the works, though? Because, Dog's Chase Guide is your first book.
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I'm actually there's a somebody taught told me I needed to write the next chapter on this character. Like, okay. I don't wanna be a spoiler here, but, you know, I think it's pretty clear he loses his job. What's he do next? Mhmm. You know, what's his next chapter in life? And that's where I'm kind of playing right now. You turn him into a Joe Rogan? Maybe. Maybe. I've actually had a couple of podcast opportunities come up. Nothing like yours, mind you, but but we'll, we'll see. I've got a cousin who wants to, to, wants me to embark on this endeavor with him. You should. It's a lot of fun.
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Yeah. It's a lot of work, but it's a lot of fun too at the same time. Well,
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I don't know. I I gotta find my own little, pimple of the world, it sounds like. Okay. You you you're in a good spot. You're in California.
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Yeah. I'll work with you. I'll I'll help you come up with something for it. I'm I'm I'm pretty good with that stuff. So Yeah. Well, if if you're in a pimple, I I can't even tell you the body part I'm in right now. But A tumor. Different, I'm sure. A tumor.
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You are. But no. It's it's you know? So that's what I'm working on right now. I've written about I got about 20,000 words done, which is probably about a quarter of the way, I think. Okay. And, and we'll see. It's, the first book kind of just happened. It just it, it flowed so easily. This one is not nearly as, as a
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it it just seemed right. I knew exactly where I was going with it. Well, yeah. Because you you based it off of true events in your life. Yeah. It's like you've experienced it. Road map. Yeah. So so anything after that's gonna be uncharted territory, you know, unless unless there's more that that you wanna bring from your personal experience.
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Yeah. And and it's and it's requiring me to, to, to think a lot more. Just put a lot more, of a road map into this one. The last one just flowed.
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Yeah. Well, of course. Because, again, because it's coming out of your personal experiences, so you were able to to to put it all down on paper. What about AI in in journalism now? What do you think about that? What do you think that's gonna be? Scares me. It does. Right? It it scares
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me. You could, the the funny thing about AI stories is you could detect them immediately when you're reading them in a newspaper. Yes. Absolutely.
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Right. Oh, so bad. There's just a there's just something about just the the the structure of it that just doesn't flow well. Like, it it it it it seems it feels artificial.
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Yeah. And there's a word that's thrown in there, and you're just like, wow. Did you really need that adjective there? And Right. You're just it's it's sad. And, unfortunately, in the survival world of of newspaper right now, this is going to become a regular thing. And you're seeing it a lot online right now. Mhmm.
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Yeah. Well, you know, when I when I tell people that I'm thinking about writing books, my own book, because I I have two in mind. One is the some of the things that I've explained to you off off air, and Mhmm. The other one is, from my experiences in working for, for New York City. And, you know, the, a lot of people ask me, sorry. You're gonna need to write it yourself? You're gonna have AI write it for you? Well well then, why why would I why would I
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write a book if I'm gonna let AI write it for me? I had somebody ask me if AI assisted me in my book at all, and I was like,
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wow. I think you just insulted me, and you don't even know it. Yeah. Yeah. It it it irked me that they actually asked me that question. Yes. You know? I mean, I I've never written well, when I was younger, I used to I used to write short stories and and things like that, and when I was in in in high school and and my early days of college. But, you know, now I guess nowadays, it'd be pretty easy just to say, hey, give me yeah. Grok, tell me a tell me a story about such and such and such and such, and just let him do it. But then what is that? Is that really it's not you?
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Well, that's that's the scary part is is you wonder if an AI robot or whatever they call them these days can can flip a book in ten minutes, and people will read it and and and, you know, buy into it is a real really a need for somebody to write his story. Yeah. Is is that even necessary? Interesting. I I was I was looking at the story on the, the guy they arrested today for the Palisade fires, and he did a, AI, painting. He had AI make him a painting of of a fire in Los Angeles months before the event and people running from it.
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And, I don't know if you've seen this thing, and I was just thinking I have haven't seen that, but I I saw the story. I saw the headline for it, and I saw some of the posts on social media. Was just so
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so dramatic. And I was looking at it, and I'm going, wow. If he would have painted this, I would be go, wow. Should've channeled your, your, artistic abilities into something like that. Yeah. You probably wouldn't have started a fire, but instead, he flips a a button and there it is. He's got his he's got his incentive and his motivation right there. Yeah. Yeah. No. I'm and full disclosure, I I use,
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the the Pod home platform that I use, for the audio side. It does generate, AI generated show notes and clips and all that stuff. Nice. I tend to edit it quite a bit, because I don't like I don't like the way it phrases things. I don't like the way it sounds. But it does save time. I'm not gonna say it doesn't. Right. But I do have but I do have to go in there, and I do have to make adjustments and changes, especially spelling changes and and such. Sorry. My earpiece came out.
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It's alright.
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The, like, it never spells my name right ever ever gets the website wrong all the time. Yes, mama. I know. Hold on. My the two of them. I don't know if you can see them. No. I see them. There's Charlie. Alright, guys. So, when we take when I take my break in between you and, and Wayne, I'm gonna run them back out. So, let's see. Yeah. It's an AI, man. I I don't I I I don't like the idea of too much of it. I mean, I get it. In some ways, it's it's helpful. Like I said, you know, speeds things up. You have to go in, you edit it, you make it more your own Oh, sure. And so on and so forth. That's great. That's fine. But when you let it control every aspect of what your project is and what you're working on, Like, I I know people, I'm not gonna say it by name or anything, but I know people who do podcasts, and the whole podcast is AI.
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Wow.
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They auto generate the the AI can mimic their voice.
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And, Is that right? Mhmm.
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Yep. So a lot of foot lot of a lot of people actually from what I understand are are resorting to AI for their their audio podcast. That's why I like doing video. See, it's really me.
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Alright. You know? But, Do you need to pinch yourself or anything to make sure that to prove to me you're real? Once I could if you want.
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Yeah. Well, that reminded me of my uncle my uncle Buddy used to do that. He used to grab it by the cheek.
[00:56:40] Unknown:
Of course they did. Uncle Buddy always does that. Always. Always. Everybody knew Uncle Buddy.
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So, from from the book, though, what do you what do you hope that the readers take away from the story, especially those that never actually set foot in a newsroom?
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You know, I I like I said, I think that I think the, I think this story could have easily been in any occupation you could think of. I just happened to choose one that was very near and dear to me. But it but it's more of a story about people and the people in your life who matter and, and making sure they know they matter and making sure you're doing what you can to hold up your end of the bargain and making sure you're, telling them every day you love them and and appreciate them. And if there is one regret I have in life, that's probably it is is the relationships I've I let slip, and and, and it's sad. So I think, newsroom wise, I think there's lots of things you're going to laugh about.
Relationship wise, I think there are lots of things you're going to laugh about, but there's also some things that are gonna bring tears to your eyes too. And you, I know, having lost your father recently, you can read this story not knowing a thing about newspapers, but you'll read the the story of an Italian father, and you'll it'll bring a tear to your eye because it'll make you think of it'll it'll make you remember things, and it'll make you to, understand. You you will be able to relate to so much of it in there, and I think most people can.
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Well, I'm I'm I have a synopsis of the book. I haven't read the whole thing, the the whole book, I mean. So I'm looking forward to actually sitting down with it and reading it. Like, I wanna I'm Yeah. I hope you will. I think I think there's,
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there's something in there. I I I think there's, you know, the the part about the there's a there's a recurring theme about a baseball glove and and his father buying him this glove and scrimping and saving each each penny to to buy this glove, but making sure that it had to be something he could endorse. So he say he had to get a Ricco Petrucelli glove because he was Italian. You know? You know? So Ricco Petrucelli,
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his fam I I was very close friends with his family. Is that right? Yeah. They lived, they lived just a few houses away from me in Brooklyn when I was growing up. That is so awesome. So Rico Petrocelli,
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was, I had a Spalding's Rico Petrocelli glove, first glove I ever owned, And it was the the glove my dad said, alright. This is the one you can get, and it's the one we could afford, but it also had a guy that he's an Italian American, and and I can endorse this. There you go. There you go. I got another piece of sports trivia for you.
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Another, well, a cousin of mine is somebody that that you would probably especially working in the NF with, you know, around the NFL for so many years, are probably very familiar with. Mhmm. Vincent Lombardi.
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Oh, you know, Vince Lombardi's in my book. Oh, yeah? Oh, awesome. Yeah. There's a there's a Vince Lombardi story. And it That's great. And it was just you know, I got down to the whole, idea of, where we are as a society right now and how, everybody is, the Italians were discriminated against in the early nineteen hundreds. Mhmm. And, you know, that's why we got Columbus Day, and then they stole it from us even though Monday is Columbus Day. Remember that? That's correct. But Vince Lombardi was a math teacher in New York as you know. Mhmm. And and he was a great math teacher and a great football coach, and he went down to, to, Wake Forest University to interview for a job down there. And they they looked at him and they said, you have too many vowels in your name. We're not gonna give you the job. And, so he went back and he became an assistant coach in the NFL. And and, you know, the n the, the, too many vows in your name, that was, you know, total dog whistle for being, you know, you're Italian. We're not giving it to an Italian. Yeah. Exactly. Here we are. Now he's got his name on the, the most famous,
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trophy in football history. Yeah. I I I have a great picture, because you you know remember they they had a a show on Broadway about Vince Lombardi. Yeah. Yeah. And, my my grandmother, who is his direct cousin, she she went to the show. She was invited to the show by the by the, by the, producers of the show, and she went there. She took pictures with the whole cast and everything like that. She had a great time, and and she sat there with them, and she told them stories, the actual factual stories behind the things that they were performing on stage.
And, it was just a great experience for her, and I'm glad she I'm glad she was able to do that before she passed. You know? So that that was that was huge. And, the the pictures we have with her with the cast and and everything, it was just it's just priceless.
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So, yeah, that was a little bit bit of trivia there for you, my friend. I like that. That's awesome. Yeah. Got connections. So, yeah, Vince Lombardi is one of those guys. I I he he makes it into my book.
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Outstanding. Alright. So our our, Wayne Rankin is waiting in the wings here. So Wayne is gonna be pissed at me, so I'm gonna No. He's not. Get off the air for you. No. He's not. Wayne's a cool guy. He'll he he loves everybody. And he would he would probably time though. And he yeah. That's alright. He he's he he's a big sports guy too, so he I'm sure he appreciates this. Alright. So Texas guy by by, No. He's up in the People's Republic Of, Washington. Okay. Pacific Northwest.
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Okay.
[01:02:32] Unknown:
Alright. Escape there. No. No. He's he's pretty baked in there. He's he's got a beautiful ranch, they call it the compound. It's a beautiful place. Loves it there, so he's not going anywhere. I've been trying to get him to come here, but, you know, he's not gonna do it. He's not gonna do it. So who's somebody that you respect right now, and what are they doing that inspires you?
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Somebody I respect right now. You know what? Have you read Hillbilly LG yet? Oh, yeah. Absolutely. Hey. I think JD Vance is is such a a great
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respectable man. He has a great story. Yeah. His story is
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inspires me. I respect him. Yep. I could agree with that. Forward to him in 1928
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in 2028. I'm sorry. 1928.
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Okay. 2028.
[01:03:25] Unknown:
2028. Yes. I think it's I think it's gonna be a Vance Rubio ticket, to be honest. Yeah. I I think Rubio is the most most improved player on on wholesale. And he I I love the way he takes on people. Yeah. He's great. He's completely different, man. Someone who I really like. Me too. I I think he's gonna I think he has a very, very bright future ahead of him. I think we're gonna get him for for, the next the next term, which I'm looking forward to seeing that. So that thing would be great. You you weren't expecting that answer, were you? I don't really go ahead into it with the expectations of anything. Somebody you know, some some people have no but some people say me. You know? It's okay.
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After after reading Hillbilly Elegy, though, if if he were if if he believed in a different political, philosophy, he'd be on Mount Rushmore already.
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Yeah. Interesting. It's interesting to do.
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Alright. Yeah. He's impressive.
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So where can, where can folks go to get more information about you, your work, and all the great stuff that you're doing?
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Patrick sangiovino dot com is my website. The book is available on amazon.com, barnesandnoble.com. Few other things, but those are the biggies.
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Alright. Well, I'm gonna buy your book, and, I'm gonna I'm gonna look for an autograph copy. Alright. So I want I wanna know
[01:04:54] Unknown:
when you get it, let me know. And we'll or do me a favor. Yeah. Email me your address, and I'll send you one. Oh, awesome. I'll do that for sure. That way that way we don't have to worry about the autograph, but I expect you to read it. Of course. When you read it, I want you to tell me what you think of it. I'm gonna read it, and then I'm gonna have you back on the show, and we'll talk about it.
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That sounds great. Alright. Sounds awesome. Beautiful. Alright. Love it. Hey. I have enjoyed this show. Oh, great. Me too. This was this was a this was a treat, man. Thank you so much for doing it, and and, you're welcome. Like I said, anytime you wanna come, just let me know, and we'll get you booked and get you set up. Next time you need to vent about some, Italian food, you let me know. Oh, for sure. Oh, you know what? Actually, I'm gonna I I'm gonna send you some pictures of some of the stuff that I've been I've been working on here. You stay out of the olive garden. Alright? Oh, I have oh, god. God. The only olive garden I wanna go into is the olive trees I wanna plant in the backyard over here. That's the only that's about as close to what I wanna get. Alright, my friend. Thank you so much, Patrick. Talk to you soon. Very it was great great to meet you, and I wish you the best with the book, and we'll talk soon.
Loved it. Thanks. Alright. Thanks, brother. Bye. Alright, folks. Patrick Sanjimino has been with us here tonight. And, what a blessing and what a treat that was, and there's a little beanie right there. You could see her. That was that was great. I really enjoyed that conversation, and I look forward to, getting him back on the show again. I hope you guys enjoyed that as well. Alright. I am going to take a very, very quick break, and then when we come back, we'll bring in, our executive producer, Wayne Rankin, and, we'll have a have some chats. Alright. So we'll be back right after this. Don't forget, folks, this is a live show weeknights 7PM central time.
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Hope you guys enjoyed that conversation, I thoroughly did, and that was great, I learned a lot, and I'm really looking forward to reading the book too, so I will let you know when we do that. But second hour is about to start, we have waiting here in the wings, our executive producer Wayne Rankin, future, future Vidcast star, Getting himself all set up. I see him in the waiting room. I'm gonna bring him on here in just a second. Alright, folks. And don't forget, again, this is a live show weeknight 7PM central time, and, available to you across all of the podcast platforms, live audio, and also don't forget the video. We're we're here live streaming on Rumble.
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So, I don't know how much longer we're gonna be on YouTube, but we're there. And so, so thank you guys for checking us out. We really do appreciate that. Alright. Now coming on in here from The Pacific Northwest to the People's Republic Of Washington is our good friend, Wayne Rankin, an executive producer of this show. Wayne, thanks for being here tonight. What's going on, brother?
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Going green. I see the green. That's great. I'm working the all green screen, getting that going. Get a little camera adjustment here, and so I'm trying to look straight into the camera. But a lot of stuff happening today. I guess, old president Trump and got Hamas and, Israel signed a peace treaty. There you go. Wow. I mean,
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what kind of peace treaty? We'll see. Exactly. That's that's what I said earlier when I mentioned that. Before before we we talked to Patrick, I brought this up. I wanted to it was important. Came out. It was published forty minutes before the show. So I wanted to make sure that, I mentioned it at least. Don't know all the details about of it. We'll see. We'll see how long this, one side or the other holds on to this. And, if listen. If this is peace here, this is a good thing. You know, we don't wanna see any more loss of life, on either side. And, so we'll see. We'll see how it all works out. Very, very happy to hear this, though. So it's good news.
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Me at the time, my new bride, we were over there just months before October 7. Oh, really? We were there yeah. We were there in March '22. Oh, okay. Yeah. How many March, I guess, October, but we were there, you know, in that same months. Time frame. We were actually, set up to go back the following March for a month because we have, I have contacts over there and I would say shoestring relatives from my late family. And we were set to set up for a month to do a little bit of everything. A little touring that we didn't get to finish because I have a it's funny. Like, I tell my wife, oh, this is my best friend, Joe. This is my best friend, Bill. My best friend, Lou, in all these different parts of the country or the world. I gotta see my best friend, Lou, in Florida. We're gonna see him. That's your best friend. They're all my best friends. But my best friend, Bill, who married us on the Sea Of Galilee, and we're all set up to go over there for a month and, do multiple different things. Touring, not I'm air I don't do air quotes no more than say air quote, of mission work. You're not supposed to do whatever. You're not supposed to be doing it, but doing a lot of good stuff over there than this happened. So it's been put on the back shelf, and I'm sure they're gonna get tourism going. And what this comes down to, what they're saying they're gonna do and, yeah, I see these people can recognize, you know, what was it state with the always used? Do you love your children more than you hate your enemy?
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It's kinda that's what it is for the people. Oh, the Hamas. They're Arabs. The Arabs. And these people are just ancient relatives. You know, the real background, please. Yeah. I mean, this is a conflict that's been going on for generations and generations and generations. This is not something new. This isn't something, you know, just spontaneously happened. Since the the one with Sarah and This is a family squabble that's been going on since Yep.
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Abraham Abraham since Sarah. Good old Abraham stepped out of the the realm of he stepped outside a little bit, and, and that started it, Abraham, Isaac, Ishmael, then Jacob, and, Esau. And so it's a biblical terms of that, but, yeah, it's it's it's like they're never ending war. And, you know, and it just like the Ukraine and Russia, I can't get on the political sides of either, but the human loss, it's just devastating.
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Yeah. It needs to come to an end. It's just it's just getting ridiculous.
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It just they've lost a generation of people over there, young men and women. And over a million, I think. Right? Over a million. Yeah. And so Which is insane. Like, and why do they start these things? I I there's nothing that's like I said, we know history, which I do love history. There's nothing's changed from other war. This war was like that war, whatever war that was. And so, people are just getting war fatigue. This the word of fatigue, you know, MCU fatigue or, you know, superhero fatigue. The word fatigue is getting fatigue. I went into another zillion of my medical appointments today, and the nurse looked to me right in the face. The doctor was retiring.
The doctor's retiring. He's telling us all the stuff he's gonna do. He walks out. She goes, I work seven days a week. Where I live, I it's I barely afford this is a nurse. She goes, I'm gonna have to work forever. And we were talking about earlier this week, and it's just a resounding, echo of everywheres. 50 to $75,000 is that's, like, that's yesterday's 25 to $40,000. Yeah. And she looks at me with just her face, this kind of exhausting look of I work six to seven days a week. I can't afford to sell my house and buy another one, blah blah blah blah. She goes, I many we're working for forever? And he's going, yeah. I'm gonna you know, of course, he's a doctor. And that that good for him, and he did all the things he didn't needed to do. But that was when I left on on Monday when we talked. And just, like I said, I have a I'm I'm very blessed to still be, like, with you in the twenty five years we've known each other, but twenty five and some of my friends are fifty years I've known them. And a lot of the guys are the same thing. We're we're retired. We're exhausted. A lot of guys over physical jobs like me and my buddy, Jim, and and work is work. But we're coming to the point is, who are those golden years, man, or whatever? Yeah. All those cliches.
Okay. Our dad's got to retire. At least my dad retired. Yeah. He retired, got the pension. You know, my mom never worked. You know? With 10 kids, she never worked. How about that? You know, we paid $22 for groceries this week. Yeah. With four cards, Joe. Yeah. I'm not kidding. I I 60. I remember. I Four carts. It's like $27
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for this. Yeah. I I remember.
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I remember. I remember when when my mom and my,
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my my grandmother actually, when when we lived in Brooklyn when I was growing up, the, you know, they they would they would get those, you know, the four wheel push, you know, cart. You know what I'm talking about? Yeah. And when it would fold up, and they would take their they would take their shopping carts, and they would they would walk to the to the supermarket, and they would come back with two shopping carts full of stuff for, like, $40. Yep. It was
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So those things are gone. They're gone. So that's what we were talking about the other day about the price of things. Things have changed. Yeah. And then she told me, she looks me straight in the eye, and that everything I woke up for this morning with the birds are chirping and the sun was shining and the coffee was brewing. Ma'am, sailed the the whatever it is. Took it right out of my sail. She goes, oh, yeah. They're talking about a federal property tax.
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Which I still you know, I know you had mentioned to me earlier and, and forgive me, brother. I did not get an opportunity to do that, to look this up. So let me do it now while you're talking. I know we were talking Monday also about the cost of things that are just, just out of out of out of control. And one of the things that we have been talking about, now let's see. Okay. Well, there's nothing, at least, that I put when I put the search parameter I put in for it came back with anything on that. The only thing that came back was that the United States federal government does not impose direct ad valorem property tax on real estate or personal property government. Taxing authorities limited by the constitution, which generally prohibits direct taxes unless there are portion among the states based on population. So, alright. Well, I'll have to look into this a little bit more. And, you know, we'll we'll talk about that on on, maybe next Wednesday. We'll get into more detail on that one.
But, but, yeah, the other cost of living is ridiculous. We talked about this on Monday. We said that, you know, every day they get up at the at the at that podium, and they they would just say pulpit. They get up to the podium, and they and they they tell us how prices are coming down. Gas prices are coming down. Everything's coming down, down, down, down, down. Where again? I I posed the question again. Where? Because I don't see it here. It's things are expensive, man. My my energy bills are ridiculously expensive. Oh, yeah. You know? And I know that the studio stuff takes up a lot of power. I I get that, but, you know, it's just me and my two dogs.
I mean, my water bill is ridiculous, my my electric bill is ridiculous, my gas bill is ridiculous. It's it's it's very it's getting harder and harder to to just make ends meet. You know? You run out of you run out of money before you run out of month.
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Right. And and, you know, like I said, I I am blessed because I I have my own water, which is a well. I have my own septic, so there's no those are those are all taken care of. My heat sources, I have wood. I'm waiting for I'm waiting for the day that it make wood stoves illegal or something like that. Oh, I'm surprised they have it up there already. Yeah. Up here. And so they'll make the wood stove illegal and then that but that's my I mean, I can heat that sucker up. It's cooking right now. And we, we could easily get this thing to 75 degrees with this a few blocks of wood.
And so those are taken care of. Those are the three. So electrical, it isn't that much, but it's starting to increase up a lot. So What's your average bill? Just out of curiosity. A $125 summerish time. But see, like I say, we I don't I don't have TV. I don't run a lot of stuff. That's summertime. So wintertime, like I said, I I don't have all I have is the electric here. That's it. That's whatever runs a little electrical things here, turn the lights on and the laundry. But like I said, my heat source is is is is wood Mhmm. And, hot water, you know, stuff like that. So I I have very limited usage of the electrical system other than, the the lights in running the the refrigerators and etcetera, etcetera, like, you know, appliances. That's what it is. I'm gonna do appliances. That's a lot of what I got hooked up. So, yeah, I'm I'm I'm fortunate in that. But like I said, I live up in the mountains, so there is no water system up here, which is fine. I have a new well, a new everything, new system. Those were put in years ago. So all set for when the the kid gets in that gets it when I when I when I'm out of here. But, in general, it's when I'm I'm talking, I like to talk. I like to talk to everybody, everywhere as I can, because I always try to lead it to the gospel, everywhere.
But today, when I'm I guess, of the professions I'm talking to, now I'm up to nurses who don't make too shabby of dollars. Okay? And they're they're penny pinching. I mean, you think of a nurse, a modern nurse, especially who's got some years behind them. Mhmm. RN, Ellen, I don't know which is which is which is, higher ranked. But even an RN in any type of medical situation is making pretty good, and they're going, yeah, it's getting tight. So you're you're starting to see the people who, like I say, who are service jobs and and factory jobs and and manual jobs. Those are historically, you know, you know, above the poverty level, but not above what I would call the middle class.
They're almost just below the middle class, and the people who are more professional are now, like, almost the middle class. Mhmm. Where we you would be an, a paralegal or a nurse. You could you'd be, you know, you'd have the second nice car or whatever. But now that's coming down. That's getting to be they're getting me to be the middle class. So things are changing. Yeah. They are. And not but not like like what Bob Dylan said, the times are changing. But, so I I sent you something pretty interesting today, and it it I think this answers a lot of things.
It's I like movies. I like movie quotes, and I I read about the connections of all these different people in political and and and financial and, you know, banking and everything connected. And one of the first ones, the the Michigan governor formerly used to work with George Soros. That was the first one. So you could go through all this, and I go back. I love quoting a man a lot, the Heath Leather Joker.
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Mhmm.
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Heath Leather's Heath Ledger's Joker. Man, you go back to some it's a lot of movies too. But you go back to some of these things, and he's talking to Batman. He going, the schemers, you know, the cops, the politicians, and and and and and he's he and he's talking about they have their schemes, and they got their little things going. The commissioner and the mayor and the banker. He's right. I mean, he may be a lunatic, crime prince, whatever they call him, the clown prince or crime or something like that. Right. But he was right. They're schemers. It's here's what word you want, but they are. They're schemers. They're players.
They're no different than the the mafia guys in that movie and the guys that the politicians that are or the or the crooked law enforcement. Yeah. You know? Look at look at our look at our judges. I mean, you just read it constantly. And the politicians and and so reading all these things I sent you today, it's it's no surprise that it's all part of the plan as he said. Yeah. I I tried to actually get it onto,
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onto the screen here, but it won't it won't translate. It's something with the text. It just won't won't take it. But, the, yeah. It's it's an interesting list, you know. I I tend to like to go through those though, you know, and and carefully read them just to see what they are because, you know, sometimes Right. Sometimes they they slip one or two in there that aren't exactly true. Right. And that's why I only read the first one in the the Michigan governor. I'm from Michigan. Yeah. She used to work for source. That's the only one I can say I can back up because all my buddies back there. Yeah. She's she's got a lot of,
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skulls in the closet and everything. So, Whitmer. So, yeah, she has a lot of connections with different people before she was governor, and that was that was they voted her in any house. So Suffolk Rock didn't. So, you know, so he was, he was definitely pushing the, I mean, a solid black educated man in Michigan, and he lost Detroit. Man, that's one cell job she had. Yeah. Whatever she sold them on, I'm I'm I'll give her credit for that one. But, talk about Detroit. My Tigers came from behind. Did they? They were down three to nothing. Final this I'm listening. And I'm here in Seattle. It's in Seattle's broadcast.
Okay? I'm getting a little excited there. I see that. Between nothing. And and all of a sudden, I came back, bottom of the eighth, it's nine to three tigers.
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I'm surprised you don't have like a Detroit Tigers background on your green screen there, bud.
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It's coming. It's coming.
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It shall be.
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I got my wife, I seen one of these hoodies that says Detroit Lions. It says, married into it. Lions.
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What's the life from the from the 10 commandments? So let it be written, so let it be done? So let it be written, so let it be done. So we'll we'll we'll have the Detroit Lions background very, very soon. Alright. Outstanding. So what do you got cooking for us though, brother? What's going on with the show? How how's how's development going? You getting there? What are you doing?
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I I I got the green I gotta actually have to tighten it real, like like, air like, stretch it tight because you don't want no wrinkles in this thing. And we're gonna broaden it up, and, we're gonna work with the camera work. And then we have we actually got this thing called big fields. I think $50.60 bucks. It's got 1,600
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backgrounds Oh, great. From
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Star Wars looking stuff to medieval things and to, I didn't the West I didn't have a western one, which I was kinda surprised, but there's 1,600. And there there are all kinds of different backgrounds that you can impose yourself in. Okay. So you could be walking around in the spaceship or you could be walking in the desert or whatever. So and that's where, our our our our actress is gonna get her stuff together here. She's got, I said, she's up there right now doing a eight eight cake wedding for for Saturday. She's like, there's four different cakes, 46 cupcakes, and so it's it's her last one. And then she says, I'm I'm she's ready to go.
And, actually, I'm down here. I've stayed in the house and outside of the house. She's she is a professional professional at this. So I live in letting her do her thing, and she just said it's literally the dam will break with all of this. It's just not a bunch of hearsay talk. We're gonna when we work together and get things done, we she said we're gonna get the green screen up, and she's got some costumes where we we wanna get this thing going. And I got some fun things too. Like, I know I like I like and I don't know.
I just what's his name? Steven Crowder. I like some things. Some things are good. He has little skits, and he's got a couple good ones that kinda land. So I I'm working to actually some skits too. I got some good fun stuff going on that one. So, yeah, like I said, we're gonna work with the amendments, and we're gonna work with the constitution Okay. Coming up with two fifty. And we're gonna actually how would you put it, Joe? We're gonna do a little satire that, you know, how, our imitates life. You know? Like I said, the one I'll I'll have her, you know, talking about free speech, and I'll have tape on her mouth and have liberal media.
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Muzzled.
[01:29:02] Unknown:
Yeah. Because there's a free speech. It's, you know, it's like I said, it's such a hypocrisy. It's free it's free speech for you guys. Mhmm. And for us, it's hate speech. What is the one those those who those who hate the truth that really could see it'll come to my brain. Those who hate the truth or whatever. It's I get it I get it later. It's a good saying. And the guy goes, he's right. Oh, those who call the truth hate, hate the truth. That's pretty much how you get from the the people who don't want a a dissenting opinion.
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Like, there are people I was trying to look it up for you, but I couldn't get fast enough. Yeah. I I I could disagree with it. No. You can't.
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I don't care. I mean, like I said, like, a gentleman said, oh, Wayne's gonna be ticked. No. I was actually interested in your last guest. I was catching you. The Olive Garden. Yeah. Yeah. Olive Garden's Italian if you live in North Dakota. It's not Italian. It's No. No. If it's in North Dakota Yeah. I know. I know. But that one, I'm trying to tell that to people here too. It's not Italian food. It's garbage. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. Wade's the fact that I said one of the best Italian restaurants in the community was my kitchen. And so, yeah, I I got it. You know, like I said, just we were somewheres up there in in North Dakota, South Dakota. I was traveling. You know, let them let them have their fun. I'm not gonna I'm not gonna stop at someone's, you know, breads I'm not gonna stop at someone's breadsticks.
[01:30:29] Unknown:
I'm I'm Italian. I can't. I got I I Yeah. No. No. No. I got I got I can't. I got Joe,
[01:30:35] Unknown:
I got 36 quarts from my garden tomatoes, stewed tomatoes, corded out there in my pantry. It's 36 quarts of tomatoes, hand picked, hand cooked, hand processed, and hand canned in the kitchen in the homestead here. And I've got about, six dozen of vacuum packed on the vine hand picked tomatoes for for Sunday sauce. Nice. Yeah. It's legit. It's legit in our house. So yeah. I mean, I'm I'm I'm I'm I remember when you came, you brought some of the,
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of the, tomatoes, and Yeah. They were
[01:31:13] Unknown:
they were Oh. Spot on, man. They were they were super good. I'm actually I'm actually a really good gardener. I really, really am good with the green thumb. Green screen, green thumb. But I have rosemary on the on the doorstep out there, and I grow my own oregano and Mhmm. The herbs and spices of my own stuff. I have a little greenhouse. So, I like doing it, and I gotta tell you, I one thing I might throw you off, I have tons of roses out there. I have a rose garden out there. I had Really? Probably a hundred hundred and fifty roses this year. By next year, I'll have over 200 because I'm gonna put eight more plants in. So Okay. I'm trying to go for over 200 roses this summer. Nice. I just pass them up to the the daughters, granddaughters, go to an event. I'll give them the roses of people we know. And it's and also that attracts the bees. My wife is a beekeeper, so it actually helps with the bees. I go sunflower, which you've seen them this morning. The bees are all over the sunflowers.
So I didn't know she was doing that with the bees. Yeah. She's a beekeeper. I didn't know. She got four hives out there. And when she bakes her cakes, she uses honey instead of white cane sugar out sometimes. Nice. Which is actually, you know, good for that. Oh, I went to my cardiologist, told some jokes. He said, your your cholesterol is up. I go, I we're all doomed then because you look at my freezer, I either caught it, killed it, or raised it. Mhmm. You know? There's nothing out there that's preservative wise. And so, I don't know how you know hey. I don't know how you get not get cancer because I got cancer and no smoke, no drink, no this, no that. So, it's I think it's just you get it. Things things happen to certain people, and it's how you deal with it myself. I I just kinda keep chugging on. That's my one of my things is the race continues. Yeah. The race continues every day, and, I'm looking at our government. I'm looking at our country. Nothing's changed. Nothing's changing.
And I I I told my buddies I that's why I turned the news off this week. From Monday to to right now, nothing's changed. I'll see what like I said, what will Hamas do? What what, what biscuit are they gonna get to actually calm down, let alone to have a peace treaty? Mhmm. So and what what are they selling these guys that they will say, you know, I guess we do love our kids enough that we will maybe, you know, not strap bombs on our chest and blow up school buses I I doubt that. Or whatever. I doubt that. Yeah. It's it's something that's built into them. So, that's that's that's about what I got for there. But,
[01:33:29] Unknown:
so, after last year Earlier today, you told me that you had a list of things that you wanted to talk about. So let's let's get into it. Yep. Okay. That was one of them, the the taxes.
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And, I'm finding, let's see. On the church wise, there's a growing kind of split in the churches where they what they call these these guys some pastors call it prosperity pastors, prosperity teachers. Prosperity gospel. Yeah. And they're it's kinda easy to spot them out because when they you can if you go to, like, maybe four to six Sundays in a row, and they're they're not gonna talk to about sin or conviction or judgment or the cross. And, like, there's some big when especially if they're making 20 to 30,000,000 a year. And so that's a lot of money. It's going you know? I mean, some baseball players are making it, obviously.
But how do you make that much money and preach the gospel? And I'm not saying you can't sell books Mhmm. Or record music. That's a different story. But I'm finding the churches are starting to get they're flooding, man. They're they're packing these churches. And these guys have got a soft message, and the message is you're good. You're doing okay. And you know what? I'm not gonna come down on your heart because life's already tough enough as it is, so why should I pound on you more? And you're good. I'm good. Goo goo goo chew. I am the egg man. And so a lot of those churches are filling up, and the ones that go bible believing churches, chapter to chapter or book to book Mhmm. You know, preaching the gospel every Sunday, attendance is starting to go down. And so Well, it's been doing that for a while now too. It's And that's that's what that was one of the things I was really, talking about and reading this week. One of the bigger things is the there's a shift there's a shift in everything. Mhmm. That's what I'm trying to say. And, the reset but I call it a shift because, you know, in football, you shift. But there seems to be a shift in Joe, and this is one of the things I'm saying. Society, we we we already see that. I mean, you've got mayors in the in the country. They'll they'll watch this. Once again, go back to Heath Leather's Joker.
He just wants to watch the world burn. Yeah. That's what Alfred told Batman. He just wants to watch the world burn. These guys will watch their cities burn and make the stick their finger in your face. That's it. Yeah. That's Trump or or the, Christy Noem or whoever the if the governor's at the same part, I cannot believe this party puppet string thing that if you follow this party, unless your name is Fetterman. You know, Fetterman sometimes the guy in the work democrat. He's not lop stack all lop stack all the time. But if you're a governor and your democratic mayor is letting your city burn or let me take over and and surrounding the police officers and letting them get overtaken by the the gangs or whatever.
The shift is in. There's a shift. It's if they don't give a squat about humanity, they just care about their own political party. But the thing is about the thing I sent you, there truly is and I'm gonna go on a limb here. We're bought off from China. If it's Disney or whatever, entertainment, and this is more stuff I'm gonna talk entertainment bought off. Disney can't make anything. They're garbage, and they've been garbage for twenty, thirty years. And the Saudis, they own news parts of these news people. You know? Fox is not even American owned. It's it doesn't it's not just American owned. It's who's buying who. Literally, practically, everybody in every part of society is a prostitute.
Interesting. Truly. Truly. I'm gonna put it all together as a prostitute. They're sold to the for whatever a night, a year contract. But, I mean, you couldn't look at the view and go, who's paying these women? You know? They'll they'll mock, you know, a a Republican woman who was stabbed in the eye and the kid's throat throat was slashed. Well, you know, the guy who did it was he had a bad upbringing. I mean, this is this is this something so diluted emotionally and not the spiritual yeah. Spiritually too, but emotionally and and and rational. There's no rational out there and logical stuff, but people are just they're they're they're getting to be where, it's like the puppet masters are running a thing. You know? So it's I can see where a lot of people stay home now. I went to go, we went to go watch a ballgame just because I don't have the tea. Place was empty. The guy goes, no. Well, you got a big screen at home. Right?
You have a streaming service there. That's easy to mouse. The beer is cheaper. The line in the bathroom is shorter. Food is cheaper, and nobody's in their way. And, you know, so he goes, we're losing to the big screens. He says pretty soon the old bar and pubs were, you know, like I said, us younger guys in there when I was in my thirties, so we'd meet there much of all game, that's gone. So everything that we grew up on, I I grew up on a on a on a on the front porch. Outside of Detroit, everybody on our street was on the front porch, or we'd call it people over and go in the back and get the firing going and listen to ballgame. Mhmm. That's kind of the American. It's boring to most people now, but that's gone too. So we've got they're they're they're closed. They get these gates that you can't see through, and it's part of the time. So, everything is seems to be changing because I it's much traveling I've been doing. I did, like, twenty years out there on the mission field. Twenty something years ago, people were really receptive of what we're doing now.
I don't know. Just, it's it's the word jaded, I think I came up with. It's jaded let me ask you. It's jaded they don't have a negative or positive thought about it or feelings? It just doesn't matter? No. I think it's more negative. I think it leans more negative. Is that what it is? I think so. Is jaded? Yeah. I think it depends in the context too. And and and what an an indifference, whatever indifference is. Is this people or they they just have no emotional or anything. They have no emotional responses. You know, I think, and so and we think about the phones.
I know. This is why I said I've been I'm gonna do less phone time. I'm working on less phone time. And that's why what's been going on? Well, not a lot. I haven't been on the phone. I've been reading and and and, going over some stuff and and working, trying to get the house cleaned up and get ready really, we have to get ready for the winter up here in the mountains. And so, I I I think of I asked my wife, we will not take the phones in the restaurant. Can we just leave them in the car? And she's cool with that. So, I mean, she's it's really massively important. I mean, we're not there very long, so I guess we can just, I don't know if you could see that. We can make it through dinner without getting a text.
There we go. Worn out. Do we seem like a worn out? We're not we're weary society? Weary. A lot of people are weary, Joe. Mhmm. They're worn out. It's not that I'm some naysayer or doom and gloom. I mean, spiritually, the Lord said, this world, you're gonna suffer. You're gonna suffer for his name. You're gonna this life isn't going to be that easy. He said there will always be struggles. And all the men that were courageous in the Bible, none none of it ended well for them in the sense of ending well, like, you know, none of them got a statue or a university named Adam. They got hung or or executed one way or another. Mhmm. And so in the first church, they were mostly pretty much martyred.
So, we look at ourselves with, nope. That's what I was gonna say. Talk to you about I was just reading where this is, the kids at eight they will graduate this year. None of them have not known the Internet. You probably heard this. They had not known the Internet. They've had the Internet. They've had cell phones. Most of them are 18. All the devices, everything they could possibly have to entertain themselves more than any time in history, and there's more depression and anti, depression medications just administered to this age group in history.
So it's not about entertain or being entertained or being kept busy. It's this, I mean and they're not even learning to have relationships. And a Stanford study showed that the sperm count of 14 and 14 to six year olds is going down because they play games all the time. They're not getting the the drive for the girls because the gaming is so intense and that's their their life. You know? They had this one kid. He dinged their dad to take him to hospital. He's on, like, forty six hours straight without getting off. I heard about that. He's dehydrated, and he had to have, you know, some medical attention because forty let's say forty six, forty eight hours. I mean, you do get dehydrated. You need water. So, especially at that age group. So yeah.
You're next. That's kinda I I had a a salad bowl of a lot of different things I've been reading the past couple of days and just going over, these things I've had notes on and, just some of the alternative news I was reading. And, I'm still looking at, my my guy out there in space, AI Atlas. My buddy AI Atlas, if you heard about that one. Oh oh, three I Atlas. Three I Atlas. I'm I'm intrigued on that one, man. Yeah. That's I hope it comes real close. That sounds pretty interesting. Yeah. For sure. Yeah. Actually, I actually, I wanted to do a, We just missed one just missed us 300 miles or 400 miles here the other day.
A meteor. Yeah. I heard. I thought you know what I did see during the election season? It's you know, how 2024 you got the candidates? It said 2024, meatier. Oh, I liked it. You know? Okay. Let me see.
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I'm As long as it I'm looking for something for us here. As long as it's California, I'll be fine. Let's see. When was when was this here? This was from oh, this is today. Today's the eighth. Yes. It's today. Let's see. Let's put this up here.
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I wore white today. I wore black today.
[01:43:44] Unknown:
Well, it's it's it's a good contrast with the, with the green screen. Yeah. Alright. Interstellar comet three I Atlas found spewing water far from the sun. Research say it may hold clues to how life travels across the universe. Really? Interesting. Right?
[01:44:01] Unknown:
Very interesting. Is your weight telling you the whole story? Is the what? Is your weight telling you the whole story? You're right.
[01:44:10] Unknown:
Let's see. Scientists calculated hydroxyl emissions within a 10 arc second radius, like I understand any of this. Confirming a dramatic increase in water production, which means the comets coma ejects around 40 kilograms of water every second. They also found at least 8% of the comet surface. 7.8 square kilometers. Now this isn't exactly what I was looking for, because there's a lot of speculations exactly what this thing is. People some some some folks are are talking about this is, first contact. What do you think?
[01:44:45] Unknown:
No. You know, it's a possibility. I don't I don't believe there's any, well, who what who what do I know? I just don't believe there's any other life form or any other planet in the I'm just gonna go with I'm old school because, well, it's really far out there, Wayne. I go, well, I I go with God. He he spoke the universe into existence. He would have gave us a clue if there's somebody else. If he would have said yeah. And I I meet someone else in our my our image somewhere else. Now there's some there's some rascals out there. And, and like I said, I had a late father-in-law who was a rocket scientist, and he was a usher in his church, which is a very vast, you know, contrast combination there. So he was teaching the guys how to land on the moon, and he was showing people their seats in church.
And he had a really good concept of there's things out there. And he tried to explain it to his daughter, which was my late wife, on parallel universes dimensions, which we don't think about, and principalities. And that's something that's it's it's sometimes hard to grasp her brain around. And the way he explained it, he just said, there's things that we cannot see that are there. And because of time space continuance, which I did not know, and my late wife knew the quantum string, which don't even ask me what that is, but she tried to explain it was when we're out of time was created. In the beginning, I created the heavens of the earth and, you know, and then, you know, as you go through Genesis and then the clock started. There's a time start. And so outside of time, it's just it's, you know, people say they've been up to heaven and back. I don't believe it. I'm sorry. I'm not gonna go with that one because Paul couldn't even explain what it looked like. But through that out of the time realm and that whole and I don't know what I'm talking about. I I know what the science back up, but there's something out there that can project itself in a different time faster than what you would see in Star Trek. And so it doesn't have to go very far because it's in a whole total dimension or The what do you call those? The black holes and portals and stuff like that. But there are there are entities. That's the word I'm looking for. That sounds Interdimensional beings.
Yeah. And they could probably ride in something or fly in something and make something and construct something and I I believe that. You know? I do believe that. I I think that there are internet I think I think that what people see,
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as talking about alien life or anything like that or they see the grays and and whatnot. Yeah. Right. I think I think those things are it's not necessarily alien life, I mean alien to us yeah because it's it's something different from us of course but I think it's more of I think they're inter interdimensional beings and I think they, a lot of it comes from through the spiritual world as well. I think I think a lot of those things are demonic beings and, and they have an agenda that they're looking to, to to to bring forward here. And, you know, you gotta be very careful with this stuff. You're playing what you're playing with things that you don't really understand. You gotta be very careful with it. You know, it's like, it's like with with with Shakespeare said, you know, there are more things in heaven and earth than I dreamt of in your philosophy.
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Right.
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You know, it's a very it's very interesting that this is taking place at this particular time in history. I don't know. I'm I'm very curious. You know, I I, you know, I'm I'm I truly am, and I'm I'm hoping I don't know what I'm hoping for, to be honest with this thing. You know, I wanna see it just pass at least and whatever. It's move on into obscurity, but, remember the all the all the the, the hoopla over what was that? What was the name of that one that came by really quick, a few years ago? Amumuamua, they called it? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Right. You know, it's it's just similar hype, I guess. I don't know, but I don't know. From some from some of the things I've seen, and I wish I would have known we were gonna talk about this because I had a whole bunch of stuff on my phone about this that I could have, got on onto the screen here. We could, show things and talk about it, but, you know there's who knows, man?
I don't know. I'm at a loss right now to be honest with you. I don't I don't even know what to think about this thing. You know, I I wanted to I would love this I would love it to be something, like, crazy out of this world that would answer a lot of questions a lot of people have, but at the same time, you know, I think people have been so conditioned at this point to expect some kind of alien life that it wouldn't surprise anybody. If it was And I think that was done intentionally. And then again, all it could also be, you know, the next big setup, you know, burner von Braun.
The father of the Saturn five rocket and pretty much America's space program. Basically, he warned us, he said that you know, that the the next thing is gonna be a false flag alien invasion. Right. You know? So and, I don't know. We'll see what we shall see.
[01:50:04] Unknown:
I grasp everything for fun. I mean, when X Files came out, it was like I had two channels I could get, and I had to go out, like, rotate my antenna. So, like, tonight, I could rotate it this way, get these shows. I go outside and rotate it that way. You know? Me and technology, I'll I I I just manage with it. Okay? I don't need to go high high end in it. So, but I was I seen the original first x file show because I just, okay. I can I can check the show out? And so I took it for fun. I take it all for fun. It's like no matter what it would I I'm still a Godzilla fan. I go Oh, I love Godzilla. Watching Godzilla, man. I you know, I Joe, I play these things through my mind, which is my my my oldest friends go, yeah. That thing is like it's humming. It's like one of those things go. I go, you know, if I had an interview for, like, if I want a gazillion dollars, I just use a gazillion. Okay? And what would the interview be? Like I said, well, first and foremost, I'm gonna get new tires for my '96 Ford Ranger. Let's say 50,000,000 or half a billion. I do that and I go, I wanna build a movie set and have my own Godzilla suit and destroy this thing.
[01:51:15] Unknown:
You could do that with your green screen.
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Yeah. So I'm going, but I wanna do a for real. And I some of my old buddy go, you know what? Me me too. I thought that was kinda cool too. You know? So some of the things I think are so far fetched. I got buddies I grew up with. You know? I'm not too far from that either, you know, putting on a Godzilla suit and tearing the place up. I go he goes, yeah. If you had a 50,000,000 or a half a billion dollars, that's the type of stuff you would do.
[01:51:43] Unknown:
Did you, speaking of, speaking of Godzilla, did you see the, the newest one, the, the Godzilla minus one?
[01:51:53] Unknown:
I haven't. It's on Netflix. I I got it's I have this winter thing. I watch a lot of stuff in the winter. I'll do Saturday nights, Friday, Saturdays for nights. So we get to pick each things. Yes. I wanna see it guys with a minus one. And, so, yeah, it's it's got an Academy Award, I guess. So, I just I like the old, you know, Ghidorah. Is it Ghidorah or is it Ghidorah? And, I well, I've been watching the past two weeks. I got onto a YouTube Godzilla. I I I subscribed to it. The dude is very serious. And Yoshiro Honda and then the production guy, Hiroshima Hamakama, and then his, screenwriter was Doki Haman Hatui. And he's going through all these names like you and he's he's got everybody nailed. And then he headed over to the next the sequel was done by and he's doing the director's names. And and this was the, the lead actor was, you know, Yahoo Magatore.
He was in Godzilla's revenge, but he also I go, I love this dude. I love this thing because, you know, Joe, I mean, I got guys that are, you know, we maybe we all do guys that make gazillion dollars and gazillion means it's more than me. You know, this that's for me. I know. And they know the same stuff we do. The guys that guys I grew up with, they'll say the same stuff too. I just don't let my wife know. My wife knows all that stuff. She goes, I married a 12 year old, so let them I'm gonna let them have fun. But,
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so I'm looking at I'm I'm I'm looking through all of these different
[01:53:28] Unknown:
I hope I didn't take the show down a bad rabbit hole. No. No. No. This is fine. Dude, this is good. Alright. This this is good. You have to be what I've been thinking. That was a bad mistake.
[01:53:37] Unknown:
I'm looking at at some of these images on, of this Godzilla stuff and just how how it's changed over the years. Mhmm. It's it's it's amazing. I don't know dude. I, like, I I saw I saw the Godzilla minus one. Mhmm. And I saw it in both versions of it. I saw the color version and the black and white. Right. I loved the black and white version. Same movie. I love black and white. Same exact movie, but you know what? It added such a different dimension to it. It was actually scarier than, than watching the color version. And, you know, not that not that Godzilla's movies are scary, but they're tense. No. Especially this one. This one is very dark. Great music too. Yeah. I love the music. This this one is is if you haven't seen it yet, this one is very dark. It's very brooding.
Yeah. It's it's very very serious, and it's incredibly well done. The special effects are fantastic in it. Mhmm. And, like, so if you haven't seen it yet, you need to see it. It's Nope. It's my win it's on my winter list. So Literally from March to, like,
[01:54:44] Unknown:
October is the the planting season, the the farming season, the outdoor season. So once November gets going and I hopefully get to get a couple of deer or elk or something in the freezer, and it's wintertime, and I start getting the categories of what I'm watching, you know, sci fi, my my kaiju movies, and, reruns from old classics and, stuff like like I said, I got the two seasons of Miami Vice I still wanna go through. Season one and two, You know? Like the original? Yeah. The original. I got them really cheap. I mean, you know, Amazon cheap back then, and I've got, Quantum Leap. I wanna finish that series. That was a good series. I like that. And so, it's just, I don't I like I said, I I have DVD and one I think I have Netflix. That's about it. Netflix and maybe one more. And so, it TV time, but it's like I said, it I'm gonna say it, man. I got the greatest life in the world. It's jammer time with the honey getting in on the couch, fire's crackling away. Are you kidding me? We'll put some cinnamon on it or potpourri, and we'll start going to you first. I get to watch mine, and we'll have a blast. And so and, you know, it doesn't snow up here. When it does, it's fun. And so but when it rains, it's not a big deal here. It sounds great on the roof. And so Yeah. And we'll we'll we'll make something fun and we'll make stuff, and that's that's not all the time. We just pick those days out there in a month. But it's it's just get away I I'm really good at getting away from this world because I'm practically away from the world anyhow. One of the things that I wanna do and I need to start try to start doing is I I need to I need to do the same thing. I need to,
[01:56:27] Unknown:
and I tried to do this. It's just hard with my regular job because I'm on calls, you know, most of the time. So it's, I wanna disconnect, man. I just wanna, like, put my phone on do not disturb, you know, from, like, Friday until Sunday and just disappear and just not, you know, do my thing and and do what I gotta do around my home and, you know, and and and development and know all that stuff and just not deal with any of that any of the outside world. Just deal with my own stuff and spend time, quiet time. You know, one of the things that that I've I've kind of, drifted away from and, you know, coming back to it now, it's it's it's been, I'm trying to think of the right word to say, like, it's like it's it's been a a sweet time of fellowship Is, When I first when I first became a Christian, and I first got saved, I Used to spend So much time.
In quiet time with the Lord and prayer and, just quiet meditation. You know? And it and just so just so people understand, when I say in prayer and quiet minutes, I'm not talking about, you know, laying on the floor, prostrate, you know, with, you know, face down on the floor. I'm not talking about that. You you can sit and talk to the Lord just like this right now. Like, Wayne could be talking to the Lord right now in his in his thoughts. You know? I used to do it a lot more frequently and, you know, I kinda I kinda fell away from that because I let myself get distracted with a lot of things over the years. And recently, I've I've committed myself to making more time in that quiet, meditative, contemplative frame of mind and just talking to the Lord.
And, you know, it's been great. I I I it's something I needed to do. I think I really needed to get back to that more. I don't wanna say I hate using the term religiously, but you know what I'm saying when I say that, you know, it's it's incredibly important. And, you know, I I it's it's just something that, you know, you feel the Holy Spirit pulling you towards it. You you and if you're sensitive to it, you'll understand what I'm talking about. You know, the Holy Spirit kind of tugs on your heart and says, hey. You know what? You you you need to be over here for a minute, you know, and you you and and if you don't, you could easily say no. I wanna watch this. Put something on the on the on the TV.
I call it the hella vision. You know, you could very easily ignore it. But, you know, lately, I I I've been in that mindset where the other I've been feeling feeling the holy spirit tugging on the heart, and I've been responding to it. And, you know, and and again, I'm not talking about, like, these long formal prayers or anything like that. A lot of times I'm at my job and I'm I'm I'm plunging a toilet or something like that, you know, and the Holy Spirit says, hey, let's talk for a second, you know, and, you know, and while you're over there doing what you're doing, you're you're having a conversation in your thoughts and in in your mind because God knows your thoughts. He knows everything about you before you know it. You know? And, so you don't have to be on your knees. You don't have to be in, you know, some prostrate position. You don't have to do anything like that. Be sitting down. You can just be walking down the street talking to the Lord. It's it's a the Bible tells us to. The Bible tells us to pray without ceasing.
Right? So what does that mean? Does that mean that that you're always gonna be in in a formal prayer? You know, you you know, you're gonna be going about your life, you're gonna be in in prayer thinking, talking to the Lord in your thought in your mind, in your heart, in your thoughts. And, it's something I got away from and I I needed to get back to it and I did and it's been it's been an exceptionally sweet fellowship, if if you understand what I mean by that. Yeah.
[02:00:29] Unknown:
So, like I say, Wayne's World, you know, we started I got the hat. Someone bought it for me, but I, I, like I say, I'm truly what mean when I say the things I like to do and I love to do, I can afford. This was, this was a 100 and something dollars. We went on a fishing trip. I take a look at the picture and people wonder, why are you so laid back?
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That's beautiful. Look at that.
[02:00:58] Unknown:
I know it doesn't show it on the screen. It's hard to see it, but yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Just this is my favorite one right there. There's there's the pull. Oh, it's beautiful. Yeah. It it was a 100 for the hotel, $150 for both of us to go catch a cooler full of salmon. And that's not that's not a bad price for that. Well, the salmon, if you what do we how do we we do the per pound stuff? $12, we caught six fish, times 60, times 12. Yeah. Yeah. Definitely paid for the trip. Absolutely. I mean, I think we caught a thousand over a thousand dollars worth of fish this summer between halibut and salmon. Oh, $1,500. And I think we probably spent 2 couple $100. But the thing was the trips out there at the ocean and the rivers. So and we're close to this. This is my backyard. So, like I said, the things I love to do, I can afford. Fish, hunt, camp, and hike. I really don't wanna do anything more than that. I had a nice bonfire in the back there.
I I just like I said, this is a guy, like, just like you. You're from Brooklyn. I grew I was born in the East Side Of Detroit downtown, but I grew up right. From Livonia where I grew seven mile in Inkster is five miles from the Detroit city limits. So grew to suburbs, but it's still Detroit. The smell of Detroit was right there. And people go, why did you move up to the mountains? Everybody still lives there. All my friends. Everybody I grew up with are within 20 10 to 20 miles of their high school. Mhmm. Just the nature boy. Ric Flair is the real nature boy. It's me. Yeah. And so I'm just different. I, my fam Well, I get My mom says it. Because I I I love
[02:02:33] Unknown:
being out in nature. I love being out, you know, and and just just watching a sunset, just watching a sunrise, you know, the most beautiful thing in the world. You know, God is an incredible, incredible artist, and he he paints with such a beautiful brush. Mhmm. You never see colors anywhere. You you cannot duplicate the colors that that you see at the sunrise and and what you can try, but it's not you're not gonna get anywhere near it. And, you know, and God did all that for us.
[02:03:01] Unknown:
Right. For us. So, so I I find myself, like I say, I'm I'm stepping aside from the phone. So I I could say, so always this week wasn't a very big news week in my brain. I guess I could tell you what I've been doing in in my my world. It's it's this farm and what's going on and, what I have to get done. It's boring stuff. I mean, it really is to most people, but, I I could go into Fox News in fifteen, twenty minutes or some of my new sites, and I could just mockingbird everything. That's what's going on right now. This this this GOP here, this, city here isn't burning down. This governor said this. This mayor said this. This, you know, blah blah blah blah blah blah. It's just same old it really is the same old stuff. And so there's nothing new. But, what's new with me? I just I had a bonfire.
Nice. You know? But it's great.
[02:03:50] Unknown:
As a matter of fact, I think I'm gonna do I'm gonna set up a I got my fire pit inside. I'm gonna set a fire fire later. Is this a fire pit something, Joe? I love it. I was just sitting there with I was, you know, sitting there with a rake or, you know,
[02:04:01] Unknown:
just watching it and have the chickens over there and they're doing their little world and, you know, and it was getting to be dusk up in the mountains. Yeah. Yeah. And now I got two I got two owls coming. I got two owls back there. Nice. So they're hooing back and forth. Unbelievable. That's beautiful. I mean, two in the morning did, doesn't we? I this incredible how they we, connect with each other. And so, yeah, it's my world, and I guess it's not for everybody. And people wonder why I live way back in the woods back there, and I go I I live the other side. I I've lived in I live where the guy sets his lawnmower up at 7AM on a Sunday. Nice. Right outside your bedroom window. Beautiful.
Yeah. It's not it's not my bag, baby. So I agree. That's that's kind of what I had. I like I said, there's a lot of stuff going on in our state that, politically wise that are people are waking up. They're waking up and going. Do they have the power? Do they have the we I don't think we could ever have a fair vote here. You know? We had a guy, Dino Rossi, about fifteen years ago. He won the election, but he didn't. They had a second count, and he won it. And the third one, he lost. They found some they found they found voters' pamphlets. They found, like, 10,000 pamphlets of voter pamphlets. Nice. And Christine Gregoire, which Christine Gregoire, we called her, she won. She three times? Yeah. I remember it. The republic our republican will never win here. They'll never win here unless it's they get rid of mail in voting. We're just gonna be we're gonna be,
[02:05:26] Unknown:
ball and chain to the blue state for now. Well, we're gonna table we're gonna have to table this conversation for next week because it is time for us to say goodnight.
[02:05:33] Unknown:
I got I got Charles. Anybody. I just, I'm I'm just I'm really relaxed today because I just Yeah. You'd got away from electronics.
[02:05:40] Unknown:
Exactly. You gotta do your thing, brother. Yeah. Alright. Put on the green screen. Wayne, thank you again. It's been an honor honor and a privilege. Oh, no. For me, dude. Thank you. I I appreciate you taking the time to be with us tonight. And,
[02:05:52] Unknown:
hey, God bless you, brother. Why don't you close us out with a prayer before we go? Alright. Dear heavenly father, you know all things, and you know what this nation needs. You know what president Trump you know, I would love the people to understand if he fails, we fail. Why would we want him to fail? Because it it's just would would trickle down, and we just pray that he can connect in The Middle East and truly the people who are suffering If we look at that first, let's not look at the hatred. Let's look at the suffering. And the Lord said, yeah, there will be suffering out there, but let's suffer the little children. Let's pray for this truly is a at least a ceasefire agreement or go to separate corners for now, Lord. Just that's your home area, father. You know that area very well and the the history of it. Lord, we just pray for our country and all the turmoil in the cities and the the backstabbing and hatred. Lord, just put put your providence on this nation for now. And, Lord, just protect our fire and police, our responders, and the people out there serving and the the the the national guardsmen or military and all those people who really do put themselves out, Lord. We just pray for our families who do not know you, and we pray for the the people we come across in business or in the the shows here that do not know you, Lord. It's, one day you will show everyone who you are, and let's pray for Joe and and and the doggies and their health and just pray for just we go to sleep tonight and go, Lord, thank you for one more day. And as as Paul said, run the race, you know, and fight the good fight. And that's all we ask for is just to look on us and most importantly all to do your will, not ours. In Jesus' name, amen.
Amen. Amen, brother. Thank you so much for that. I appreciate that. God bless you. Thank you so much for being with us tonight. I, at churches, they've, I've been called the the long prayer, so sometimes they'll pass on me. Yeah. They give me they give me under two minutes.
[02:07:47] Unknown:
I'll just shut you off next time. It's alright. Alright, brother. Bless hey. Blessings to you. God bless you. Have a great night, and I will I will talk to you tomorrow. I'll give you a call. Everybody in Seattle go tigers.
[02:07:59] Unknown:
Yeah. I'm gonna if they win, I'm wearing everything to church on Sunday. I got some I love it, but I love it. Go for it. Do it. I'm waiting for the pastor to kick me out, you know. Do it. And real fast, the Seattle people the Seattle sports guys are really nervous. They are nervous for, Tariq Skubal. This guy is he's like the Andy Pet of his time. Nice. This guy's he's incredible. So, you know, it's gonna be a good game five Friday. Alright. Have a wonderful weekend. Alright, my brother. Weekend weekend. Alright. Thank you. We'll talk to you later on. I'll see you tomorrow. Alright. Alright. Bye bye.
[02:08:34] Unknown:
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Transmitting live from the asylum studios deep in the bowels of Southwest Texas. It's the Joe Ruge Show. The show where we talk about anything and everything. Where nothing is sacred, nothing is watered down, and nothing is PC. Alrighty. Hey, folks. This is Joe Roos, and it is great to be with you again on a Wednesday evening, transmitting live from the asylum studios from the pimple on the backside of Texas, the beautiful city of Eagle Pass, and doing the very best weekend to bring you the best quality talk radio we can muster without all the bluster.
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Well, a lot of interesting things took place right before the start of the show. I suppose, the one thing that we should mention, and, I'll pull the graphic up here really quickly, and we're not gonna spend any time talking about it tonight because we do wanna make sure we get to our guest. But, actually, you know what? Before we actually do that, before we bring before I, put the graphic up there, let's let's do our our our, sponsor read. Folks, tonight's show is brought to you by podhome.fm. Podhome.fm is the most modern and easy to use podcast hosting platform. You can use it to publish your episodes, enhance your audio, automatically generate transcripts, chapters, titles, show notes, and more. And folks, you can even podcast live, which is exactly what we're doing on the audio stream as, as well as the video stream.
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Well, that's great. It's fantastic that, you know, the first phases of this peace plan are in are in are in place. I didn't really get a chance to spend too much time contemplating this, but this was a big announcement today. So I wanted to make sure I brought it to your attention, before we got started here tonight. So, let me know what you think about that. You can always leave a comment right there down below or, shoot us an email over at [email protected]. Alright. Also, before we get into it, don't forget to head over to our website, joeroos.com. Joeroos.com.
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Patrick, welcome to the show.
[00:10:22] Unknown:
Thanks for having me, Joe. I don't know how I'm supposed to compete with peace in The Middle East, but I'm gonna try. Well, we'll we'll we'll somehow work it out. We'll we'll give you some credit somewhere along the way for it. That's that's an amazing story. I I should be buried in the, you know, page
[00:10:37] Unknown:
18 of the paper right now Yeah. While you, work on this one. Yeah. Well, we'll get there. We'll get there at some point. When we originally started this show, sir, we we, the the the intent of the show was to do political commentary, opinions Mhmm. And and such. But, I think I think the forces of the universe had an alternate direction for this thing to go. So, we don't spend very much time talking politics anymore, but, we're gonna, you know, kinda work our way back into it at some point. But how are you? How's that how's everything going on your end, sir?
[00:11:08] Unknown:
Everything's going good. It's, you know, it's, life moves forward. Everything happens for a purpose. And, you know, I cannot complain. I have, since relocated from the Midwest back to my home state of California. I can't say I'm in love with the state of California and and the wackiness, but, but
[00:11:29] Unknown:
we'll leave it at that. Yeah. Probably some things are better left unsaid. Right? Alright. Well, I don't know if you've, checked out any of the other shows that I've that we've done, but, I always ask my my guests two very important questions to start the show off with. So Yep. We'll see if you're ready for it or not. What is something that most people don't know about you but should?
[00:11:52] Unknown:
Most people don't know about me but should? Well, I am a I'm an avid sports fan, grew up in a sports family, realized, when I was very young, I was small, slow, and couldn't hit a curveball, so I was never gonna play, infield for San Francisco Giants. But, found my way into sports writing thanks to a a show called The Odd Couple and and Oscar Madison. I was a big fan of his and, Jack Klugman and the way he played that character. And and, yeah, that's something
[00:12:28] Unknown:
many people don't know about me. That was one of my favorite shows. It it really was, and I used to love to sit there. I mean, I was very young when it first started, but I so I caught the latter years of it. But I I used to love to sit there and watch the reruns on channel eleven up in New York. It was it was great. It was I I love that show. It was great. I I never had a tuna fish sandwich under my pillow or anything like that, and thankfully, I never did. Oh, good. But, I have. You know, I I avoided the sloppiness, but his lifestyle was just something that I was just so enamored with at a young age, and I knew what I wanted to do. Yeah. That's it's, that's great. It's a great analogy too. It's it's so it's a it's a great lifestyle to to to do what you love to do. It it's there there's nothing better in the world than that. It's because it's not like going to work every day, it's actually doing what you love. And Exactly. That's kinda like how I feel with the podcast stuff. You know, it's like I have a job, I have a regular job, you know, it's
[00:13:22] Unknown:
my job, but I love to do this. I love I could tell it's I could tell it's a labor of love with you. Oh, thanks. You know, the way you the way you, have just embraced it, and and, even the first five minutes here, I feel very welcome. So Of course. We hope so. Carry on. I'm I'm a little nervous about about question two, but go for it. Two is, what is your go to beverage to help you unwind at the end of the day? You know, back in the early days, I think it would have been something alcoholic. But right now, it's more of a a cup of, a cup of tea or or, I I wish I could drink coffee all day like I used to, but, can't do it anymore. So I've kind of found the tea thing. Yeah. I I know what you're saying.
[00:14:08] Unknown:
I I'm a bourbon guy. I love my bourbons. Yeah. I had at at one point, I had an extensive collection of bourbons. And, I thought you were pulling up a bottle of bourbon. I was like, oh, wait. Let me go get my
[00:14:21] Unknown:
That was just water.
[00:14:23] Unknown:
Now now have you ever done the bourbon tour down in Kentucky? No. Not yet. I'm planning on it, though. Okay. I'm totally planning on it. So, so, you know, bourbon use it usually been my go to. Right now, I I've been I've been sampling brandies. I I don't know why I just decided one day I went to try some brandy, so I I bought a couple of bottles. And, so every every evening well, not every evening, but weekends. I'll, after I get out of work and I realized that, you know, I didn't hurt anybody while I was there, I'll have a cigar and a brandy or a cigar and a bourbon and just relax, you know, kinda take take a drink. Grandmother,
[00:14:58] Unknown:
whenever we got sick, it was bourbon with a a cube of sugar in it. Yeah. Yeah. Same thing. Same thing.
[00:15:06] Unknown:
My grandmother, my grandmother wasn't a pure blood pure bread Italian. She was, she was Italian German, but my grandfather was, pure Sicilian. So Oh, it's okay. Good. I'm Sicilian myself. Got the best of both worlds, my friend. Got the best of both worlds. There you go. And, and I'm on my on my mom and dad. Well, my mom obviously is mixed in my my grandparents, but my dad's side was pure Italian off the boat. I think my dad was third generation American. Okay. So, so I just great. I love it. And and it's funny because when I lived in New York, you know, I kinda took it for granted.
You know, the Italian heritage and all the accessibility to all the stuff, you know, for Italian food and restaurants and stuff. And then I came here, and it's like I went I went to our local supermarket one day, and I was like, no. I'm gonna I wanna make something. I'm gonna make, my signature dish is is a is a fettuccine with sweet peas prosciutto and a white wine sauce. Okay. That sounds good. Oh, it's amazing. It's that's that that's my signature thing, and I hadn't had it in a while, and I felt like making it one night, so, I went to the local supermarket, and I'm looking around, and I'm like, okay, Where where's where's the prosciut? You know?
I go up to the deli counter, and I and I asked the girl there. I was like, hey, do you have any prosciut? She was like, pro what? Prosciut. What's that? It's an Italian cured ham. You don't have prosciut? She was like, no. I don't think so. So, so yeah, that kind of threw a threw a wrench into my plans, but but I went to Walmart of all places. Walmart. They did not have it behind the deli counter at Walmart, but I don't know if you ever see those, those those mozzarella sticks with the with the prosciut wrap around them? They had like four packages of it left, so I grabbed all four packages, and I was like, I am making this thing tonight, and that's it. And You made it work. That's it. Yeah. Absolutely. But you could also use pancetta. You can. You know, it it changes the flavor profile slightly because it's a little bit more of a smoky flavor with the pancetta. But, it was so good. It came out so good. You know? My mom would be like this right now.
[00:17:27] Unknown:
It's it's a different world. I I know when I moved to the Midwest, it was, finding a good delicatessen. There were no delis there. Mm-mm.
[00:17:35] Unknown:
You know? And and they think going to Subway is getting a sandwich. Oh, please. God. Yes. I know that I I the same thing here. It's it's ridiculous. Have you have you tried the the the meatball Parmesan sandwich? The the no. I'm sorry. Let me let me correct it. The meatball Parmigiana sandwich at at at Subway. I'm like, no. I didn't. I'm not going to either.
[00:17:58] Unknown:
First of all when they say when they say, we have good Italian food here. Italian. And I said, is that straight from Italy?
[00:18:10] Unknown:
All the rage here right now is that that they're opening up an olive garden. Oh, no. And I'm like, don't Don't get me started. Don't get me started. That is such an insult to an Italian olive garden. It is not Italian food. On it, and let's and overcook the pasta. That'll do it. Yeah. And and and, you know, what some what some people don't don't know also is that Alfredo. Because the big thing is, like, oh, they're chicken Alfredo. There is no such thing as Alfredo sauce, by the way. And in Italy, there is no if you go into an Italian restaurant in Italy and say, you wanted something Alfredo, they will look at you like you have six heads and probably kick you out of the place. There is no such thing.
Yeah. It's an Americanized dish, and it's like, oh, please, man. You know, don't get me started. I got I I I needed to talk to a to an Italian.
[00:18:58] Unknown:
Evan has Alright, my son. You know where to come when you need some. When you need to, vent a little bit. Yeah. Yes. Absolutely, sir. Just come back when you need some. Absolutely.
[00:19:06] Unknown:
So, so, so so you your your journey's been shaped by, your experiences as a journalist. Tell us,
[00:19:15] Unknown:
your life. Tell us about your life as a journalist covering the NFL for, what, for eight seasons? Is that right? Eight seasons? I I covered it as for eight seasons as a as a beat reporter, and then I became a columnist. So I got to spend a few more years doing it. And, it's a blast. I mean, it's a it's the NFL is the world's largest public relations machine. Everything is set up just to just for public relations purposes. And you know what you're doing every day. It's it's as a beat reporter, it gets to be a little merry-go-roundish where you know exactly what's going on. And after eight seasons, you're ready for something new. But but I all also said it's the perfect single man's job. Because think about it. You leave on Saturday morning, go on a trip.
You, arrive at the team motel. Mhmm. You wait for the, for the for the team to arrive because you don't wanna have to write that story about a cargo or a jetliner traveling with an NFL team crashing. The cover bay. Yeah. So you make sure they get there. Find out if there's, everything's okay. You you, send your story, your previous story for tomorrow's game, then you go out with your the boys, and you find a restaurant and a bar, and you eat and drink until it closes. You go to bed. You wake up at ten in the morning. You get to the stadium, have some breakfast there, and you watch a football game, and you talk to some people, and you ride a little bit, and then you do the same thing and come home Monday night or Monday morning.
[00:20:50] Unknown:
So Yeah. It is it's it is yeah. I guess that is the good, a good definition of the single man's life. But we see when you said it though, the first thing that popped in my mind were the cheerleaders. So You know? Yes.
[00:21:02] Unknown:
So interesting. They they tended to like the guys that had a lot of zeros at the end of their paycheck. So,
[00:21:08] Unknown:
you know, and sportswriters technically didn't have that unless you count the decimal points, and nobody counts those. No. Nobody ever does. No. Yeah. Now we're gonna talk about your book, Dogs Chase Cars tonight, but, it it's and it sounds like the book is actually, I guess, mirroring some of your experiences,
[00:21:25] Unknown:
in the world Yeah. It is. And and and it's more of a it's written through the eyes of a fake, a fictional character, but he's, he's got a lot of me in him. He he's got, he's a little more of a, lack of a better word. He's a little more of an asshole than I am. Okay. So, I don't know if I could say that in the air. Am I gonna go deeper or anything? No. You say what you want. Okay. Thanks. So he's a little bit more, blunt. He's, he's a grumpy old man who's kinda watching the world that he loved just change dramatically before his eyes. He's watching, his industry just kinda go down the drain.
It's circling the drain quickly, and and, he sees it. He's watching newsrooms get gutted. He's he's watching technology come in. And for all of the good technology has done, it's done far more worse, to society and and the journalism industry I agree with you. As a whole, which is another topic in itself. So it's, it's just an interesting, dichotomy of life where he's doing something he absolutely loves, but the what he what he loves to do is almost becoming antiquated.
[00:22:48] Unknown:
Mhmm.
[00:22:50] Unknown:
Well, how much is how much of the book is inspired by your own experiences, and how much is the fiction? You know, a lot of the sports stories that are in there are are actual sports stories that took place, and they they involve a lot of the, the names you would recognize. And some of them are the the actual story itself is fiction. So I wrapped a fictitious story about a guy about to lose his job in a newspaper, that was about to go down the tubes, around some real life stories, which made it really kind of fun and challenging to do in a lot of ways.
[00:23:31] Unknown:
I know you mentioned technology, not exactly being the best thing in the world to happen, especially the rise of digital news. How did that actually change the business model?
[00:23:44] Unknown:
You know, I I honestly believe that in the, in the eighties and nineties, newspapers were making such regular profits. You know, just steady 18 to 20% a year. And if they would have invested in something like Google or something like what was coming down the line, they would have been the leaders of this whole thing, and they would have been on the on the forefront of it all. And as a result, they just got real, complacent and and lazy about, hey. We're the newspaper industry. We're always gonna be this way. People are gonna pick up our our product. It's gonna be on their doorstep every morning, and here and here we go. Well, all of a sudden, it it comes a classified ad is is antique by the time it gets on the pay in the paper because it could be on on the Internet for, you know, two hours and at any point. Right. There's no need to advertise classified in in a newspaper anymore. So all of a sudden, six pages of classified advertising, which brought in thousands of dollars a day, is gone away.
Same thing happens with car ads and real estate ads, and and Right. You're screwed. And then yeah. I I I can understand that completely. Now,
[00:25:07] Unknown:
was there a specific point, when when this whole, you know, print to clicks transition took place that that you thought that, man, this is never gonna be the same again?
[00:25:18] Unknown:
You know, I remember I remember, I was I was a columnist at the time, and and, I don't know how big a sports fan you are. I love I love my baseball and my hockey. Okay. There there was a football player named Chad Johnson who changed his name to his uniform number, Chad Ochocinco. Oh, yeah. At at at, one point. And he was the first guy I remember who embraced Twitter. And he would he went directly to his to his, followers, and he would tweet every day. Mhmm. And I remember sitting in the press box one day, and I said, this guy doesn't need us anymore. And what's gonna happen when all of them catch this and they realize that they own their own brands and they're gonna be able to do this? Yeah. There there's gonna be less of a need for us because there people are gonna go directly to Twitter and get, you know, right from the horse's mouth. Does that make sense? Yeah. It does, actually. Yeah. I never thought of it that way. That that's yeah. They could get to control their own brand. That's a great way to put it too. Yeah.
[00:26:24] Unknown:
So what's something though that you still miss about being in the newsroom and something you'll never miss?
[00:26:31] Unknown:
I absolutely loved every day in a newsroom. Well, not every day. Some days are worse than others, but but there is a, there is something about being surrounded by creative, smart, funny, hardworking people who are all working towards the same goal as you. I mean, think about it. You start with an inkling of an idea, a little seed. You plant it in the morning, and you start you start, reporting on your story. You watch it grow, and everyone around you is doing the same thing with their stuff. By midafternoon, you've got ten, twenty stories now because everybody's working on stories.
And and then the editors get in, and they start figuring out, wow. We got a lot of stuff today. How are we gonna place this all? And they they make these, decisions. And then the layout people get their hands on it, and they put it all together. And then the print the the print shop gets their hands on it. So it's touched hundreds of people over a course of a day. And this daily miracle, which started as just a little seed, turns into a newspaper that always arrives the next morning on somebody's doorstep. It's not gonna be as good as it could be every day.
And and the days that it's not, you recognize it. But it has been it it's been put into into place that this system, this process is time tested. It's always going to work. You know? There's only been one time in my life when the paper didn't come out the next day, and it took a 7.1 earthquake in San Francisco in 1989 for that to happen. Well, that's
[00:28:11] Unknown:
I can I remember it? Yeah. And you're right. Because I I'm thinking as you said that that growing up, I only remember not getting a newspaper delivered to the house because that was my dad loved to sit down and Yeah. Have his morning coffee and sit there and go through the paper, but I I can only I can think of just one period of time where it didn't ever get to the house, and that was when we had this huge blizzard back in back in the late seventies, back in in New York. And, that's the only time I can think that the newspaper never showed up at my house.
[00:28:40] Unknown:
And So it's this time tested process that became such a a a proven method for delivering news each day. Yeah. I mean, it was just a it was a wonderful business to be a part of in in the nineteen eighties, the early nineteen eighties when I when I realized that's what I wanted to do. As a matter of fact, I think my dad still got the, the local newspaper in in Staten Island where we lived.
[00:29:11] Unknown:
I think he still got it delivered, maybe up to about a a year or two before he passed away. Wow. You know, he's he still stayed faithful to it. And I used to ask him all the time. I said, dad, why don't you just go go on go online? You can get it faster that way. Leave me alone, boy. I know what I'm doing.
[00:29:29] Unknown:
Exactly. It's that idea of of turning the pages and seeing it right there. Yeah. And and that was the, that was the problem with, the newspaper industry was, everybody knew that the the next phase was gonna be online, but all the money was wrapped up in your print subscribers. They were so devoted to the product that, you know, you you couldn't turn it over on them. You so so, the mere threat of pulling the paper away from them, in print would just cause a revolt.
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Yeah. Yeah. I I I could see that. And and I understand the cons the the idea behind that too is just loving to hold that thing. Because I'm like that with books, you know. I I love to hold a book in my hand. I don't like reading a book online, a Kindle book, or whatever they call it nowadays, you know. Yeah. Ebooks, whatever. I I don't I I I don't really I don't enjoy that. You know, it it Right. To me, it's it's just I would rather sit down, hold a book, have it laid out in front of me, be able to read it, because I also feel like you can navigate your way through it easier. Like, like, I I I I read my bible every day. Alright? Okay. I love to be able to go here, keep my hand here, hold this page, go back here, compare what I'm reading from back and forth. You do that, you can't do that with an ebook.
Right. You know, it's it's when you can, but it's it's so much more complicated. You gotta find where you were, you gotta go back, you know. I'd rather have the book. And I left my studio door open, and my my my my kids have just come in here. Hey, guys. Hey, guys. You'll be quiet. Okay? I'm gonna leave them in here. My kids are my dogs, by the way. So Okay. So Mine I got my boy my boy, Charlie, and my girl, Beanie. So, yeah, guys, go lay down and play. So, sorry about didn't mean to interrupt you. No. No problem. No problem. Where were we? Alright. So we're gonna start talking about your book right now. And and Alright. Ironically enough I thought we were already. The dogs the the dogs have come in. So, so dogs chase cars. Tell us about that title.
Where did you get that?
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So the the title makes people laugh when I tell them. When I was, when I was in high school, I had a I had a teacher. Well, I should start off by saying, I I was talking with a girl one day, my senior year of high school, right around lunchtime. And for some reason, she was receptive to my advances this time. And the bell rings, and it's time for me to get to class. And I'm like, no. There's no way I'm going to class right now. I'm talking to this girl. Mhmm. And class is right across the hall, and I could see I could see my teacher at the door, and he's looking at me. And he's not real happy, but he sees me talking to this girl. And so I show up about ten minutes late. And I walk in, and I said, sorry. I was talking to somebody. And he looked at me, and he said, dogs chase cars, but they can't drive them.
Oh. And and and, Well, that's profound. It was it was so profound, and it and it was this this I was probably too dumb to be embarrassed by it, but I always remembered the line. And I was thought, wow. What a great line. And and and then it became this metaphor in life for me. Like, what happens if, you're or, what happens when you catch the car? What happens when you're chasing the car? What happens when you're chasing anything and you catch it? Do you have the wherewithal to know what to do with it? And, and it just became this metaphor on life, chasing stories, chasing people, chasing relationships.
And the story became the story is is big in newspapers, but it's also a story about relationships and and the, the failed ones. And what do you do when you get the girl? Do you know how to keep the girl? And or do you take it for granted that she's always gonna be around? And it and it just teaches there there is a cautionary tale in this book about, really, striking a balance between home and work life. Mhmm. Because there has to be the people who are in your life have to matter more than the paycheck you're getting every day. I agree with that. That's great. I like that. Yeah. So that's kind of a a recurring theme, and there's a father, some, son angle where this guy never really, appreciates what his father meant to him till two years after he dies, you know, where he just goes, wow. This guy was amazing, and I took it for granted. Mhmm.
So
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Now now the story that that you tell in in, in Dogs Chase Cars unfolds over a single day in the life of a sports columnist. So why did you choose the one day structure and, to tell such a big story?
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You know, it it it just kinda happened. It it it was this. You're driving to work on this, this pinnacle day, this day of, you know, your your day of reckoning. You've had one job in thirty two years. And here you are, and you're flashing back to all of the people and all of the moments, the seminal moments in your life. And the, I'm very big in you're you're familiar with a god wink. Right? Yes. Yeah. And god winks are just something I believe so strongly in. And, the problem with when you're young and naive is you don't recognize these things until twenty, thirty, forty years later, and you went, woah.
That's what that was about. Yeah. And so so, you you're just revisiting all of these little godwinks of how you got here and what prompted you to get here. But it also brings you to the mistakes you've made in life and why you're here on this day when you're about to lose your job and you're all alone. So there's something very sad about it at the end of the day, not because he's losing his job, but because he's he's there. He he he's kind of made his bed. He's reaped what he sowed in a lot of ways.
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Now the book also looks at, or addresses arrogance of media, executives, who always looked at, like, profits are never gonna fade. Yes. Do you think that that's that same arrogance still exists in the media today?
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No. I think they are in total survival mode right now. And I think it's led to the problem we have with, with our, trusting of media right now. I don't think Donald Trump did anything more than expose the media for for its its bad, form in the last twenty, thirty years. You know? Yeah. He just point. He became a he became the bullhorn for all of this, and he brought he brought receipts. And and if you watch the last ten years, the media has never looked more silly than he's made them look.
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Yeah. That's a that's a great point. He has made them look very silly, and one of the things I like about the president is the fact that he takes it right to them. Yes. And and he lets them have it. I mean and I think he I think he's even more so now than he was in his first term, and I think that's primarily because he he has nothing to lose at this point.
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Yeah. He's got no, he's got no, next term to worry about. Mhmm. He's just
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a Although he does troll the media frequently by putting his Trump 2028 hats on his desk. Yeah. It makes me laugh when he does that. It does. It's funny. The media
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has done such a really poor job of, learning how to deal with him.
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Oh, yeah. They're they're totally just flailing around anytime he does something, says something. First of all, I I think, again, I don't know where where you are on the spectrum politically. You know, doesn't matter to me. I don't really care. But I think that that the left because the media does lean very left. The the, you know, the so there's Oh, absolutely. So there's there's it's it's like, you know, the left doesn't know how to take a joke.
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Right.
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You know? And I think and, of course, I I know president Trump knows that. And so I he does all this stuff intentionally just to get them all riled up and to to and it just gives them headlines. It gives them something other than other things going on in the administration that might not be so great at the moment.
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He he dominates news cycles. Absolutely.
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Absolutely. But do you do you really think there's still a news cycle with the twenty four hour news, every you know, everything covered, like because when you hear news cycle, you're thinking, oh, well, during this period of time, is this going on that period, you know, cyclical thing. But really, everything is just happening, and everything is so rep is reported so fast now. Is it really a cycle? I know we're off topic of the book, but this is, you know No. No. No. I like this. I like this conversation.
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I would imagine that covering the White House would be like drinking out of a fire hose, just because he's so he's so energetic. But, I think they have they have done a really bad job of, I think they were so intent on finding him guilty of something in in his first term Yep. That they just that they just flailed badly.
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Oh, yeah. They they threw whatever they could just to see what would stick, and nothing stuck. And, now, you know, the the quota phrase, and the chickens are coming home to roost. A lot of things taking place, a lot of investigations. Although, I'll I'll be very honest with you, I'm not happy with, with, Pam Bondi. I I don't I don't understand what she's thinking. You know, there's just there it she's gotta do something soon. And I I How so? And and I In what? As far as indictments or or at least moving beyond the investigative stage. Now, I look, I worked in law enforcement. I understand investigations take time. You can't just come run out and and, you know, slap somebody in handcuffs and march them off. I get that. I understand that. But sometimes sometimes I wonder, you know, is she too I think sometimes she's too interested in auditioning for her after the AG job with Fox News than actually working on it. And I've seen her testimonies of it, before the senate. She rips them apart. I get it. It's great. Fantastic. You know, throw it up in their faces. Let them know, you know, they're not angels in any of this stuff. But I think the American people wanna see more movement on these investigations and these cases.
I don't think she's handling a lot of this very well. I like her. I think, you know, I I don't know her personally. I don't care. As As an AG in Florida, I think she she did a a fine job, but I think this might be more than what she's capable of handling.
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I don't know that any one person in that job could handle everything there is, because there's so much.
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Yeah. And and I could I can concede that, but I think you also have to message well, and and she's not messaging well as far as, you know, you know, you you had that whole big staged event with the binders. Remember the binders? With the Epstein stuff, which is all stuff that was already released. It was stuff that was that was already well known about. Files are on my desk. The list is there. We got this. We got that. And now all of a sudden, all the list doesn't exist, there are no files, there's nothing that's and it's just it doesn't it sometimes I just kinda wonder, you know, what exactly is what's the game here? What's going on?
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I think that story is just such a big nothing burger that
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everybody who touches it realizes it. You think? You don't you don't think there's any in anything incriminating in any of those files that that they're trying to cover up and hide?
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No. I I first of all, I think you have to be real careful about what you put out there. Oh, for sure. And, and I think I I don't think you can just throw it out there and just say, here it is. Deal with it.
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Yeah. But the problem is though is that during the campaigns, that's kind of what they intimated that they were gonna do. That if, you know, we're gonna get all this stuff exposed, we're gonna take care of all this business here. I I know that. It does not that wasn't gonna happen. I like I said, I've done investigative work in law enforcement. I understand the whole process of things, and you you can't give out all the information that you have. I know you It's a political hot potato. Yeah. Nobody wants to be holding it. And holding it is the worst thing. Biden held it for how many years? Right. And that's another point too. Everybody, they're they're, you know, they they point the finger at Donald Trump. Listen, if there if Donald Trump was was implicated in any of this stuff during the Biden administration, it would have been all over the place.
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Absolutely.
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That that's the one part of the whole thing they would not hold back. So, so for whatever case it is, I don't know why we're on on this stuff. But Yeah. We got we got a little rabbit hole there, but that's okay. That's fun. Yeah. Bunny trails are fun sometimes. Most of them.
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No. I think I think, Trump has done a really good job of, more exposing my industry. He's embarrassed my industry. I don't know how they recover from it, honestly. And,
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I don't think they are gonna recover from it. You know? Not to the not to the to the degree where they they were held in such a high standard, you know, back in the in the in the fifties, the forties, fifties, sixties. Mhmm. You know? I I think that that air is gone. I think right now alternative media is more trustworthy and reliable in most people's eyes than than the mainstream. I agree with you. So, Yeah. I agree with you. And I think that's and and the the ironic thing is that the alternative media is gonna become the mainstream at some point.
You know? And,
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who knows where it's gonna go from there. Well, because you've watched you've watched some really good journalists, Lucer Jobs, and they have gone on to, this platform, and they've done really well with it. Yeah. You know, you look at Megyn Kelly. I that podcast is great. I listen to it every day. So
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Oh, I I I enjoy her stuff. I I think she's she's I like her more now than I did when she was on Fox News. Right. Because But she was you're so you're under the parameters of of a corporate structure. Right. And now all of a sudden you're your own boss, and you could say what you want and and not worry about it. You're what are they gonna do? Yeah. Exactly. And it it's unleashed. It basically is what it really is. Is. And same thing with with Tucker Carlson. You know, Tucker Carlson says a lot of stuff right now that I don't think he would ever say or be able to say on on I mean, he might, you know, try to get it in here or there, but he he wouldn't be allowed to to say some of the things that he's been saying. Absolutely. On on network TV or Absolutely.
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So it's just a different it's it's a different, you know, Joe Rogan, same thing. Yeah. You know? And and I love his long form interviews, and and, and it if you're gonna go on his show and and spend two hours with him, you better know what you're talking about because he's gonna ask you about it. And and there's something great about that. Yeah. It's fresh. It's refreshing to to see that. And I like I like the fact I I love long form,
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interviews. I I do. And that's that's really the goal that I'm trying to develop with this show, you know, to be more long form and almost almost more like traditional talk radio types Mhmm. Format, you know. I like that. I think that's great. I I enjoy it. I I get more out of that than little sound bites. Well, it's it's where the conversation leads you. Like, I had no idea we were gonna talk about this, but I'm not.
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This is great. I I love the rabbit hole, and and, you know, this is this is refreshing to me. And, this is the way interviews should go. They just go where they
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where they go organically. Yeah. Exactly. Like yeah. And and people know this. I have I have bullets here in front of me, like, some some fully written out questions, some ideas and direction to go. But most of the time, and and my producer Angela, you know, God bless her for dealing with me. I tend to go off the notes quite a bit, but, you know, it but that's the that's that's the whole essence of talk. You know, you have to talk. You have to keep talking. Even if you don't agree, you know? Yes. It's that exchange of ideas, and, you know, I'm not gonna try to convince somebody of my side, and I'm not gonna, you know, and hopefully, they're not gonna try to convince me of their point, but at least we have the dialogue, and we can at least exchange the ideas.
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Absolutely. Absolutely. And and that's I mean, the the great thing about long form interviews is they force you to listen too. Mhmm. Because that next question, you know, it it it's it comes off of the following answer.
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Most of the time. Yeah. Like a previous answer, I should say. Yeah. Yeah. For sure. So, speaking of the question, let's get back to it. Because this one's actually a written out question that I had. What do you Oh, back on script. Backed on script. Yeah. What do you think readers and journalists most misunderstand about local newsrooms or how local newsrooms actually function behind the scenes?
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I think I think they're portrayed as these real energetic places on TV and in movies, and they really are. There is a lot, but there's a lot of downtime too where there's just great debates. And, Yeah. And and we had amazing debates where you actually covered both sides of the story. You know? The be it an election that was coming up or, you know, politics, whatever. There were great debates with people who are willing to listen to you Yeah. Which I always appreciated.
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So what else do you have in the book in the works, though? Because, Dog's Chase Guide is your first book.
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I'm actually there's a somebody taught told me I needed to write the next chapter on this character. Like, okay. I don't wanna be a spoiler here, but, you know, I think it's pretty clear he loses his job. What's he do next? Mhmm. You know, what's his next chapter in life? And that's where I'm kind of playing right now. You turn him into a Joe Rogan? Maybe. Maybe. I've actually had a couple of podcast opportunities come up. Nothing like yours, mind you, but but we'll, we'll see. I've got a cousin who wants to, to, wants me to embark on this endeavor with him. You should. It's a lot of fun.
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Yeah. It's a lot of work, but it's a lot of fun too at the same time. Well,
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I don't know. I I gotta find my own little, pimple of the world, it sounds like. Okay. You you you're in a good spot. You're in California.
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Yeah. I'll work with you. I'll I'll help you come up with something for it. I'm I'm I'm pretty good with that stuff. So Yeah. Well, if if you're in a pimple, I I can't even tell you the body part I'm in right now. But A tumor. Different, I'm sure. A tumor.
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You are. But no. It's it's you know? So that's what I'm working on right now. I've written about I got about 20,000 words done, which is probably about a quarter of the way, I think. Okay. And, and we'll see. It's, the first book kind of just happened. It just it, it flowed so easily. This one is not nearly as, as a
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it it just seemed right. I knew exactly where I was going with it. Well, yeah. Because you you based it off of true events in your life. Yeah. It's like you've experienced it. Road map. Yeah. So so anything after that's gonna be uncharted territory, you know, unless unless there's more that that you wanna bring from your personal experience.
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Yeah. And and it's and it's requiring me to, to, to think a lot more. Just put a lot more, of a road map into this one. The last one just flowed.
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Yeah. Well, of course. Because, again, because it's coming out of your personal experiences, so you were able to to to put it all down on paper. What about AI in in journalism now? What do you think about that? What do you think that's gonna be? Scares me. It does. Right? It it scares
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me. You could, the the funny thing about AI stories is you could detect them immediately when you're reading them in a newspaper. Yes. Absolutely.
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Right. Oh, so bad. There's just a there's just something about just the the the structure of it that just doesn't flow well. Like, it it it it it seems it feels artificial.
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Yeah. And there's a word that's thrown in there, and you're just like, wow. Did you really need that adjective there? And Right. You're just it's it's sad. And, unfortunately, in the survival world of of newspaper right now, this is going to become a regular thing. And you're seeing it a lot online right now. Mhmm.
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Yeah. Well, you know, when I when I tell people that I'm thinking about writing books, my own book, because I I have two in mind. One is the some of the things that I've explained to you off off air, and Mhmm. The other one is, from my experiences in working for, for New York City. And, you know, the, a lot of people ask me, sorry. You're gonna need to write it yourself? You're gonna have AI write it for you? Well well then, why why would I why would I
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write a book if I'm gonna let AI write it for me? I had somebody ask me if AI assisted me in my book at all, and I was like,
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wow. I think you just insulted me, and you don't even know it. Yeah. Yeah. It it it irked me that they actually asked me that question. Yes. You know? I mean, I I've never written well, when I was younger, I used to I used to write short stories and and things like that, and when I was in in in high school and and my early days of college. But, you know, now I guess nowadays, it'd be pretty easy just to say, hey, give me yeah. Grok, tell me a tell me a story about such and such and such and such, and just let him do it. But then what is that? Is that really it's not you?
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Well, that's that's the scary part is is you wonder if an AI robot or whatever they call them these days can can flip a book in ten minutes, and people will read it and and and, you know, buy into it is a real really a need for somebody to write his story. Yeah. Is is that even necessary? Interesting. I I was I was looking at the story on the, the guy they arrested today for the Palisade fires, and he did a, AI, painting. He had AI make him a painting of of a fire in Los Angeles months before the event and people running from it.
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And, I don't know if you've seen this thing, and I was just thinking I have haven't seen that, but I I saw the story. I saw the headline for it, and I saw some of the posts on social media. Was just so
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so dramatic. And I was looking at it, and I'm going, wow. If he would have painted this, I would be go, wow. Should've channeled your, your, artistic abilities into something like that. Yeah. You probably wouldn't have started a fire, but instead, he flips a a button and there it is. He's got his he's got his incentive and his motivation right there. Yeah. Yeah. No. I'm and full disclosure, I I use,
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the the Pod home platform that I use, for the audio side. It does generate, AI generated show notes and clips and all that stuff. Nice. I tend to edit it quite a bit, because I don't like I don't like the way it phrases things. I don't like the way it sounds. But it does save time. I'm not gonna say it doesn't. Right. But I do have but I do have to go in there, and I do have to make adjustments and changes, especially spelling changes and and such. Sorry. My earpiece came out.
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It's alright.
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The, like, it never spells my name right ever ever gets the website wrong all the time. Yes, mama. I know. Hold on. My the two of them. I don't know if you can see them. No. I see them. There's Charlie. Alright, guys. So, when we take when I take my break in between you and, and Wayne, I'm gonna run them back out. So, let's see. Yeah. It's an AI, man. I I don't I I I don't like the idea of too much of it. I mean, I get it. In some ways, it's it's helpful. Like I said, you know, speeds things up. You have to go in, you edit it, you make it more your own Oh, sure. And so on and so forth. That's great. That's fine. But when you let it control every aspect of what your project is and what you're working on, Like, I I know people, I'm not gonna say it by name or anything, but I know people who do podcasts, and the whole podcast is AI.
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Wow.
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They auto generate the the AI can mimic their voice.
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And, Is that right? Mhmm.
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Yep. So a lot of foot lot of a lot of people actually from what I understand are are resorting to AI for their their audio podcast. That's why I like doing video. See, it's really me.
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Alright. You know? But, Do you need to pinch yourself or anything to make sure that to prove to me you're real? Once I could if you want.
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Yeah. Well, that reminded me of my uncle my uncle Buddy used to do that. He used to grab it by the cheek.
[00:56:40] Unknown:
Of course they did. Uncle Buddy always does that. Always. Always. Everybody knew Uncle Buddy.
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So, from from the book, though, what do you what do you hope that the readers take away from the story, especially those that never actually set foot in a newsroom?
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You know, I I like I said, I think that I think the, I think this story could have easily been in any occupation you could think of. I just happened to choose one that was very near and dear to me. But it but it's more of a story about people and the people in your life who matter and, and making sure they know they matter and making sure you're doing what you can to hold up your end of the bargain and making sure you're, telling them every day you love them and and appreciate them. And if there is one regret I have in life, that's probably it is is the relationships I've I let slip, and and, and it's sad. So I think, newsroom wise, I think there's lots of things you're going to laugh about.
Relationship wise, I think there are lots of things you're going to laugh about, but there's also some things that are gonna bring tears to your eyes too. And you, I know, having lost your father recently, you can read this story not knowing a thing about newspapers, but you'll read the the story of an Italian father, and you'll it'll bring a tear to your eye because it'll make you think of it'll it'll make you remember things, and it'll make you to, understand. You you will be able to relate to so much of it in there, and I think most people can.
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Well, I'm I'm I have a synopsis of the book. I haven't read the whole thing, the the whole book, I mean. So I'm looking forward to actually sitting down with it and reading it. Like, I wanna I'm Yeah. I hope you will. I think I think there's,
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there's something in there. I I I think there's, you know, the the part about the there's a there's a recurring theme about a baseball glove and and his father buying him this glove and scrimping and saving each each penny to to buy this glove, but making sure that it had to be something he could endorse. So he say he had to get a Ricco Petrucelli glove because he was Italian. You know? You know? So Ricco Petrucelli,
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his fam I I was very close friends with his family. Is that right? Yeah. They lived, they lived just a few houses away from me in Brooklyn when I was growing up. That is so awesome. So Rico Petrocelli,
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was, I had a Spalding's Rico Petrocelli glove, first glove I ever owned, And it was the the glove my dad said, alright. This is the one you can get, and it's the one we could afford, but it also had a guy that he's an Italian American, and and I can endorse this. There you go. There you go. I got another piece of sports trivia for you.
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Another, well, a cousin of mine is somebody that that you would probably especially working in the NF with, you know, around the NFL for so many years, are probably very familiar with. Mhmm. Vincent Lombardi.
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Oh, you know, Vince Lombardi's in my book. Oh, yeah? Oh, awesome. Yeah. There's a there's a Vince Lombardi story. And it That's great. And it was just you know, I got down to the whole, idea of, where we are as a society right now and how, everybody is, the Italians were discriminated against in the early nineteen hundreds. Mhmm. And, you know, that's why we got Columbus Day, and then they stole it from us even though Monday is Columbus Day. Remember that? That's correct. But Vince Lombardi was a math teacher in New York as you know. Mhmm. And and he was a great math teacher and a great football coach, and he went down to, to, Wake Forest University to interview for a job down there. And they they looked at him and they said, you have too many vowels in your name. We're not gonna give you the job. And, so he went back and he became an assistant coach in the NFL. And and, you know, the n the, the, too many vows in your name, that was, you know, total dog whistle for being, you know, you're Italian. We're not giving it to an Italian. Yeah. Exactly. Here we are. Now he's got his name on the, the most famous,
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trophy in football history. Yeah. I I I have a great picture, because you you know remember they they had a a show on Broadway about Vince Lombardi. Yeah. Yeah. And, my my grandmother, who is his direct cousin, she she went to the show. She was invited to the show by the by the, by the, producers of the show, and she went there. She took pictures with the whole cast and everything like that. She had a great time, and and she sat there with them, and she told them stories, the actual factual stories behind the things that they were performing on stage.
And, it was just a great experience for her, and I'm glad she I'm glad she was able to do that before she passed. You know? So that that was that was huge. And, the the pictures we have with her with the cast and and everything, it was just it's just priceless.
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So, yeah, that was a little bit bit of trivia there for you, my friend. I like that. That's awesome. Yeah. Got connections. So, yeah, Vince Lombardi is one of those guys. I I he he makes it into my book.
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Outstanding. Alright. So our our, Wayne Rankin is waiting in the wings here. So Wayne is gonna be pissed at me, so I'm gonna No. He's not. Get off the air for you. No. He's not. Wayne's a cool guy. He'll he he loves everybody. And he would he would probably time though. And he yeah. That's alright. He he's he he's a big sports guy too, so he I'm sure he appreciates this. Alright. So Texas guy by by, No. He's up in the People's Republic Of, Washington. Okay. Pacific Northwest.
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Okay.
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Alright. Escape there. No. No. He's he's pretty baked in there. He's he's got a beautiful ranch, they call it the compound. It's a beautiful place. Loves it there, so he's not going anywhere. I've been trying to get him to come here, but, you know, he's not gonna do it. He's not gonna do it. So who's somebody that you respect right now, and what are they doing that inspires you?
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Somebody I respect right now. You know what? Have you read Hillbilly LG yet? Oh, yeah. Absolutely. Hey. I think JD Vance is is such a a great
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respectable man. He has a great story. Yeah. His story is
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inspires me. I respect him. Yep. I could agree with that. Forward to him in 1928
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in 2028. I'm sorry. 1928.
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Okay. 2028.
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2028. Yes. I think it's I think it's gonna be a Vance Rubio ticket, to be honest. Yeah. I I think Rubio is the most most improved player on on wholesale. And he I I love the way he takes on people. Yeah. He's great. He's completely different, man. Someone who I really like. Me too. I I think he's gonna I think he has a very, very bright future ahead of him. I think we're gonna get him for for, the next the next term, which I'm looking forward to seeing that. So that thing would be great. You you weren't expecting that answer, were you? I don't really go ahead into it with the expectations of anything. Somebody you know, some some people have no but some people say me. You know? It's okay.
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After after reading Hillbilly Elegy, though, if if he were if if he believed in a different political, philosophy, he'd be on Mount Rushmore already.
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Yeah. Interesting. It's interesting to do.
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Alright. Yeah. He's impressive.
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So where can, where can folks go to get more information about you, your work, and all the great stuff that you're doing?
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Patrick sangiovino dot com is my website. The book is available on amazon.com, barnesandnoble.com. Few other things, but those are the biggies.
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Alright. Well, I'm gonna buy your book, and, I'm gonna I'm gonna look for an autograph copy. Alright. So I want I wanna know
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when you get it, let me know. And we'll or do me a favor. Yeah. Email me your address, and I'll send you one. Oh, awesome. I'll do that for sure. That way that way we don't have to worry about the autograph, but I expect you to read it. Of course. When you read it, I want you to tell me what you think of it. I'm gonna read it, and then I'm gonna have you back on the show, and we'll talk about it.
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That sounds great. Alright. Sounds awesome. Beautiful. Alright. Love it. Hey. I have enjoyed this show. Oh, great. Me too. This was this was a this was a treat, man. Thank you so much for doing it, and and, you're welcome. Like I said, anytime you wanna come, just let me know, and we'll get you booked and get you set up. Next time you need to vent about some, Italian food, you let me know. Oh, for sure. Oh, you know what? Actually, I'm gonna I I'm gonna send you some pictures of some of the stuff that I've been I've been working on here. You stay out of the olive garden. Alright? Oh, I have oh, god. God. The only olive garden I wanna go into is the olive trees I wanna plant in the backyard over here. That's the only that's about as close to what I wanna get. Alright, my friend. Thank you so much, Patrick. Talk to you soon. Very it was great great to meet you, and I wish you the best with the book, and we'll talk soon.
Loved it. Thanks. Alright. Thanks, brother. Bye. Alright, folks. Patrick Sanjimino has been with us here tonight. And, what a blessing and what a treat that was, and there's a little beanie right there. You could see her. That was that was great. I really enjoyed that conversation, and I look forward to, getting him back on the show again. I hope you guys enjoyed that as well. Alright. I am going to take a very, very quick break, and then when we come back, we'll bring in, our executive producer, Wayne Rankin, and, we'll have a have some chats. Alright. So we'll be back right after this. Don't forget, folks, this is a live show weeknights 7PM central time.
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Hope you guys enjoyed that conversation, I thoroughly did, and that was great, I learned a lot, and I'm really looking forward to reading the book too, so I will let you know when we do that. But second hour is about to start, we have waiting here in the wings, our executive producer Wayne Rankin, future, future Vidcast star, Getting himself all set up. I see him in the waiting room. I'm gonna bring him on here in just a second. Alright, folks. And don't forget, again, this is a live show weeknight 7PM central time, and, available to you across all of the podcast platforms, live audio, and also don't forget the video. We're we're here live streaming on Rumble.
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So, I don't know how much longer we're gonna be on YouTube, but we're there. And so, so thank you guys for checking us out. We really do appreciate that. Alright. Now coming on in here from The Pacific Northwest to the People's Republic Of Washington is our good friend, Wayne Rankin, an executive producer of this show. Wayne, thanks for being here tonight. What's going on, brother?
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Going green. I see the green. That's great. I'm working the all green screen, getting that going. Get a little camera adjustment here, and so I'm trying to look straight into the camera. But a lot of stuff happening today. I guess, old president Trump and got Hamas and, Israel signed a peace treaty. There you go. Wow. I mean,
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what kind of peace treaty? We'll see. Exactly. That's that's what I said earlier when I mentioned that. Before before we we talked to Patrick, I brought this up. I wanted to it was important. Came out. It was published forty minutes before the show. So I wanted to make sure that, I mentioned it at least. Don't know all the details about of it. We'll see. We'll see how long this, one side or the other holds on to this. And, if listen. If this is peace here, this is a good thing. You know, we don't wanna see any more loss of life, on either side. And, so we'll see. We'll see how it all works out. Very, very happy to hear this, though. So it's good news.
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Me at the time, my new bride, we were over there just months before October 7. Oh, really? We were there yeah. We were there in March '22. Oh, okay. Yeah. How many March, I guess, October, but we were there, you know, in that same months. Time frame. We were actually, set up to go back the following March for a month because we have, I have contacts over there and I would say shoestring relatives from my late family. And we were set to set up for a month to do a little bit of everything. A little touring that we didn't get to finish because I have a it's funny. Like, I tell my wife, oh, this is my best friend, Joe. This is my best friend, Bill. My best friend, Lou, in all these different parts of the country or the world. I gotta see my best friend, Lou, in Florida. We're gonna see him. That's your best friend. They're all my best friends. But my best friend, Bill, who married us on the Sea Of Galilee, and we're all set up to go over there for a month and, do multiple different things. Touring, not I'm air I don't do air quotes no more than say air quote, of mission work. You're not supposed to do whatever. You're not supposed to be doing it, but doing a lot of good stuff over there than this happened. So it's been put on the back shelf, and I'm sure they're gonna get tourism going. And what this comes down to, what they're saying they're gonna do and, yeah, I see these people can recognize, you know, what was it state with the always used? Do you love your children more than you hate your enemy?
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It's kinda that's what it is for the people. Oh, the Hamas. They're Arabs. The Arabs. And these people are just ancient relatives. You know, the real background, please. Yeah. I mean, this is a conflict that's been going on for generations and generations and generations. This is not something new. This isn't something, you know, just spontaneously happened. Since the the one with Sarah and This is a family squabble that's been going on since Yep.
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Abraham Abraham since Sarah. Good old Abraham stepped out of the the realm of he stepped outside a little bit, and, and that started it, Abraham, Isaac, Ishmael, then Jacob, and, Esau. And so it's a biblical terms of that, but, yeah, it's it's it's like they're never ending war. And, you know, and it just like the Ukraine and Russia, I can't get on the political sides of either, but the human loss, it's just devastating.
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Yeah. It needs to come to an end. It's just it's just getting ridiculous.
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It just they've lost a generation of people over there, young men and women. And over a million, I think. Right? Over a million. Yeah. And so Which is insane. Like, and why do they start these things? I I there's nothing that's like I said, we know history, which I do love history. There's nothing's changed from other war. This war was like that war, whatever war that was. And so, people are just getting war fatigue. This the word of fatigue, you know, MCU fatigue or, you know, superhero fatigue. The word fatigue is getting fatigue. I went into another zillion of my medical appointments today, and the nurse looked to me right in the face. The doctor was retiring.
The doctor's retiring. He's telling us all the stuff he's gonna do. He walks out. She goes, I work seven days a week. Where I live, I it's I barely afford this is a nurse. She goes, I'm gonna have to work forever. And we were talking about earlier this week, and it's just a resounding, echo of everywheres. 50 to $75,000 is that's, like, that's yesterday's 25 to $40,000. Yeah. And she looks at me with just her face, this kind of exhausting look of I work six to seven days a week. I can't afford to sell my house and buy another one, blah blah blah blah. She goes, I many we're working for forever? And he's going, yeah. I'm gonna you know, of course, he's a doctor. And that that good for him, and he did all the things he didn't needed to do. But that was when I left on on Monday when we talked. And just, like I said, I have a I'm I'm very blessed to still be, like, with you in the twenty five years we've known each other, but twenty five and some of my friends are fifty years I've known them. And a lot of the guys are the same thing. We're we're retired. We're exhausted. A lot of guys over physical jobs like me and my buddy, Jim, and and work is work. But we're coming to the point is, who are those golden years, man, or whatever? Yeah. All those cliches.
Okay. Our dad's got to retire. At least my dad retired. Yeah. He retired, got the pension. You know, my mom never worked. You know? With 10 kids, she never worked. How about that? You know, we paid $22 for groceries this week. Yeah. With four cards, Joe. Yeah. I'm not kidding. I I 60. I remember. I Four carts. It's like $27
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for this. Yeah. I I remember.
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I remember. I remember when when my mom and my,
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my my grandmother actually, when when we lived in Brooklyn when I was growing up, the, you know, they they would they would get those, you know, the four wheel push, you know, cart. You know what I'm talking about? Yeah. And when it would fold up, and they would take their they would take their shopping carts, and they would they would walk to the to the supermarket, and they would come back with two shopping carts full of stuff for, like, $40. Yep. It was
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So those things are gone. They're gone. So that's what we were talking about the other day about the price of things. Things have changed. Yeah. And then she told me, she looks me straight in the eye, and that everything I woke up for this morning with the birds are chirping and the sun was shining and the coffee was brewing. Ma'am, sailed the the whatever it is. Took it right out of my sail. She goes, oh, yeah. They're talking about a federal property tax.
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Which I still you know, I know you had mentioned to me earlier and, and forgive me, brother. I did not get an opportunity to do that, to look this up. So let me do it now while you're talking. I know we were talking Monday also about the cost of things that are just, just out of out of out of control. And one of the things that we have been talking about, now let's see. Okay. Well, there's nothing, at least, that I put when I put the search parameter I put in for it came back with anything on that. The only thing that came back was that the United States federal government does not impose direct ad valorem property tax on real estate or personal property government. Taxing authorities limited by the constitution, which generally prohibits direct taxes unless there are portion among the states based on population. So, alright. Well, I'll have to look into this a little bit more. And, you know, we'll we'll talk about that on on, maybe next Wednesday. We'll get into more detail on that one.
But, but, yeah, the other cost of living is ridiculous. We talked about this on Monday. We said that, you know, every day they get up at the at the at that podium, and they they would just say pulpit. They get up to the podium, and they and they they tell us how prices are coming down. Gas prices are coming down. Everything's coming down, down, down, down, down. Where again? I I posed the question again. Where? Because I don't see it here. It's things are expensive, man. My my energy bills are ridiculously expensive. Oh, yeah. You know? And I know that the studio stuff takes up a lot of power. I I get that, but, you know, it's just me and my two dogs.
I mean, my water bill is ridiculous, my my electric bill is ridiculous, my gas bill is ridiculous. It's it's it's very it's getting harder and harder to to just make ends meet. You know? You run out of you run out of money before you run out of month.
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Right. And and, you know, like I said, I I am blessed because I I have my own water, which is a well. I have my own septic, so there's no those are those are all taken care of. My heat sources, I have wood. I'm waiting for I'm waiting for the day that it make wood stoves illegal or something like that. Oh, I'm surprised they have it up there already. Yeah. Up here. And so they'll make the wood stove illegal and then that but that's my I mean, I can heat that sucker up. It's cooking right now. And we, we could easily get this thing to 75 degrees with this a few blocks of wood.
And so those are taken care of. Those are the three. So electrical, it isn't that much, but it's starting to increase up a lot. So What's your average bill? Just out of curiosity. A $125 summerish time. But see, like I say, we I don't I don't have TV. I don't run a lot of stuff. That's summertime. So wintertime, like I said, I I don't have all I have is the electric here. That's it. That's whatever runs a little electrical things here, turn the lights on and the laundry. But like I said, my heat source is is is is wood Mhmm. And, hot water, you know, stuff like that. So I I have very limited usage of the electrical system other than, the the lights in running the the refrigerators and etcetera, etcetera, like, you know, appliances. That's what it is. I'm gonna do appliances. That's a lot of what I got hooked up. So, yeah, I'm I'm I'm fortunate in that. But like I said, I live up in the mountains, so there is no water system up here, which is fine. I have a new well, a new everything, new system. Those were put in years ago. So all set for when the the kid gets in that gets it when I when I when I'm out of here. But, in general, it's when I'm I'm talking, I like to talk. I like to talk to everybody, everywhere as I can, because I always try to lead it to the gospel, everywhere.
But today, when I'm I guess, of the professions I'm talking to, now I'm up to nurses who don't make too shabby of dollars. Okay? And they're they're penny pinching. I mean, you think of a nurse, a modern nurse, especially who's got some years behind them. Mhmm. RN, Ellen, I don't know which is which is which is, higher ranked. But even an RN in any type of medical situation is making pretty good, and they're going, yeah, it's getting tight. So you're you're starting to see the people who, like I say, who are service jobs and and factory jobs and and manual jobs. Those are historically, you know, you know, above the poverty level, but not above what I would call the middle class.
They're almost just below the middle class, and the people who are more professional are now, like, almost the middle class. Mhmm. Where we you would be an, a paralegal or a nurse. You could you'd be, you know, you'd have the second nice car or whatever. But now that's coming down. That's getting to be they're getting me to be the middle class. So things are changing. Yeah. They are. And not but not like like what Bob Dylan said, the times are changing. But, so I I sent you something pretty interesting today, and it it I think this answers a lot of things.
It's I like movies. I like movie quotes, and I I read about the connections of all these different people in political and and and financial and, you know, banking and everything connected. And one of the first ones, the the Michigan governor formerly used to work with George Soros. That was the first one. So you could go through all this, and I go back. I love quoting a man a lot, the Heath Leather Joker.
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Mhmm.
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Heath Leather's Heath Ledger's Joker. Man, you go back to some it's a lot of movies too. But you go back to some of these things, and he's talking to Batman. He going, the schemers, you know, the cops, the politicians, and and and and and he's he and he's talking about they have their schemes, and they got their little things going. The commissioner and the mayor and the banker. He's right. I mean, he may be a lunatic, crime prince, whatever they call him, the clown prince or crime or something like that. Right. But he was right. They're schemers. It's here's what word you want, but they are. They're schemers. They're players.
They're no different than the the mafia guys in that movie and the guys that the politicians that are or the or the crooked law enforcement. Yeah. You know? Look at look at our look at our judges. I mean, you just read it constantly. And the politicians and and so reading all these things I sent you today, it's it's no surprise that it's all part of the plan as he said. Yeah. I I tried to actually get it onto,
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onto the screen here, but it won't it won't translate. It's something with the text. It just won't won't take it. But, the, yeah. It's it's an interesting list, you know. I I tend to like to go through those though, you know, and and carefully read them just to see what they are because, you know, sometimes Right. Sometimes they they slip one or two in there that aren't exactly true. Right. And that's why I only read the first one in the the Michigan governor. I'm from Michigan. Yeah. She used to work for source. That's the only one I can say I can back up because all my buddies back there. Yeah. She's she's got a lot of,
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skulls in the closet and everything. So, Whitmer. So, yeah, she has a lot of connections with different people before she was governor, and that was that was they voted her in any house. So Suffolk Rock didn't. So, you know, so he was, he was definitely pushing the, I mean, a solid black educated man in Michigan, and he lost Detroit. Man, that's one cell job she had. Yeah. Whatever she sold them on, I'm I'm I'll give her credit for that one. But, talk about Detroit. My Tigers came from behind. Did they? They were down three to nothing. Final this I'm listening. And I'm here in Seattle. It's in Seattle's broadcast.
Okay? I'm getting a little excited there. I see that. Between nothing. And and all of a sudden, I came back, bottom of the eighth, it's nine to three tigers.
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I'm surprised you don't have like a Detroit Tigers background on your green screen there, bud.
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It's coming. It's coming.
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It shall be.
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I got my wife, I seen one of these hoodies that says Detroit Lions. It says, married into it. Lions.
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What's the life from the from the 10 commandments? So let it be written, so let it be done? So let it be written, so let it be done. So we'll we'll we'll have the Detroit Lions background very, very soon. Alright. Outstanding. So what do you got cooking for us though, brother? What's going on with the show? How how's how's development going? You getting there? What are you doing?
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I I I got the green I gotta actually have to tighten it real, like like, air like, stretch it tight because you don't want no wrinkles in this thing. And we're gonna broaden it up, and, we're gonna work with the camera work. And then we have we actually got this thing called big fields. I think $50.60 bucks. It's got 1,600
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backgrounds Oh, great. From
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Star Wars looking stuff to medieval things and to, I didn't the West I didn't have a western one, which I was kinda surprised, but there's 1,600. And there there are all kinds of different backgrounds that you can impose yourself in. Okay. So you could be walking around in the spaceship or you could be walking in the desert or whatever. So and that's where, our our our our actress is gonna get her stuff together here. She's got, I said, she's up there right now doing a eight eight cake wedding for for Saturday. She's like, there's four different cakes, 46 cupcakes, and so it's it's her last one. And then she says, I'm I'm she's ready to go.
And, actually, I'm down here. I've stayed in the house and outside of the house. She's she is a professional professional at this. So I live in letting her do her thing, and she just said it's literally the dam will break with all of this. It's just not a bunch of hearsay talk. We're gonna when we work together and get things done, we she said we're gonna get the green screen up, and she's got some costumes where we we wanna get this thing going. And I got some fun things too. Like, I know I like I like and I don't know.
I just what's his name? Steven Crowder. I like some things. Some things are good. He has little skits, and he's got a couple good ones that kinda land. So I I'm working to actually some skits too. I got some good fun stuff going on that one. So, yeah, like I said, we're gonna work with the amendments, and we're gonna work with the constitution Okay. Coming up with two fifty. And we're gonna actually how would you put it, Joe? We're gonna do a little satire that, you know, how, our imitates life. You know? Like I said, the one I'll I'll have her, you know, talking about free speech, and I'll have tape on her mouth and have liberal media.
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Muzzled.
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Yeah. Because there's a free speech. It's, you know, it's like I said, it's such a hypocrisy. It's free it's free speech for you guys. Mhmm. And for us, it's hate speech. What is the one those those who those who hate the truth that really could see it'll come to my brain. Those who hate the truth or whatever. It's I get it I get it later. It's a good saying. And the guy goes, he's right. Oh, those who call the truth hate, hate the truth. That's pretty much how you get from the the people who don't want a a dissenting opinion.
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Like, there are people I was trying to look it up for you, but I couldn't get fast enough. Yeah. I I I could disagree with it. No. You can't.
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I don't care. I mean, like I said, like, a gentleman said, oh, Wayne's gonna be ticked. No. I was actually interested in your last guest. I was catching you. The Olive Garden. Yeah. Yeah. Olive Garden's Italian if you live in North Dakota. It's not Italian. It's No. No. If it's in North Dakota Yeah. I know. I know. But that one, I'm trying to tell that to people here too. It's not Italian food. It's garbage. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. Wade's the fact that I said one of the best Italian restaurants in the community was my kitchen. And so, yeah, I I got it. You know, like I said, just we were somewheres up there in in North Dakota, South Dakota. I was traveling. You know, let them let them have their fun. I'm not gonna I'm not gonna stop at someone's, you know, breads I'm not gonna stop at someone's breadsticks.
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I'm I'm Italian. I can't. I got I I Yeah. No. No. No. I got I got I can't. I got Joe,
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I got 36 quarts from my garden tomatoes, stewed tomatoes, corded out there in my pantry. It's 36 quarts of tomatoes, hand picked, hand cooked, hand processed, and hand canned in the kitchen in the homestead here. And I've got about, six dozen of vacuum packed on the vine hand picked tomatoes for for Sunday sauce. Nice. Yeah. It's legit. It's legit in our house. So yeah. I mean, I'm I'm I'm I'm I remember when you came, you brought some of the,
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of the, tomatoes, and Yeah. They were
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they were Oh. Spot on, man. They were they were super good. I'm actually I'm actually a really good gardener. I really, really am good with the green thumb. Green screen, green thumb. But I have rosemary on the on the doorstep out there, and I grow my own oregano and Mhmm. The herbs and spices of my own stuff. I have a little greenhouse. So, I like doing it, and I gotta tell you, I one thing I might throw you off, I have tons of roses out there. I have a rose garden out there. I had Really? Probably a hundred hundred and fifty roses this year. By next year, I'll have over 200 because I'm gonna put eight more plants in. So Okay. I'm trying to go for over 200 roses this summer. Nice. I just pass them up to the the daughters, granddaughters, go to an event. I'll give them the roses of people we know. And it's and also that attracts the bees. My wife is a beekeeper, so it actually helps with the bees. I go sunflower, which you've seen them this morning. The bees are all over the sunflowers.
So I didn't know she was doing that with the bees. Yeah. She's a beekeeper. I didn't know. She got four hives out there. And when she bakes her cakes, she uses honey instead of white cane sugar out sometimes. Nice. Which is actually, you know, good for that. Oh, I went to my cardiologist, told some jokes. He said, your your cholesterol is up. I go, I we're all doomed then because you look at my freezer, I either caught it, killed it, or raised it. Mhmm. You know? There's nothing out there that's preservative wise. And so, I don't know how you know hey. I don't know how you get not get cancer because I got cancer and no smoke, no drink, no this, no that. So, it's I think it's just you get it. Things things happen to certain people, and it's how you deal with it myself. I I just kinda keep chugging on. That's my one of my things is the race continues. Yeah. The race continues every day, and, I'm looking at our government. I'm looking at our country. Nothing's changed. Nothing's changing.
And I I I told my buddies I that's why I turned the news off this week. From Monday to to right now, nothing's changed. I'll see what like I said, what will Hamas do? What what, what biscuit are they gonna get to actually calm down, let alone to have a peace treaty? Mhmm. So and what what are they selling these guys that they will say, you know, I guess we do love our kids enough that we will maybe, you know, not strap bombs on our chest and blow up school buses I I doubt that. Or whatever. I doubt that. Yeah. It's it's something that's built into them. So, that's that's that's about what I got for there. But,
[01:33:29] Unknown:
so, after last year Earlier today, you told me that you had a list of things that you wanted to talk about. So let's let's get into it. Yep. Okay. That was one of them, the the taxes.
[01:33:39] Unknown:
And, I'm finding, let's see. On the church wise, there's a growing kind of split in the churches where they what they call these these guys some pastors call it prosperity pastors, prosperity teachers. Prosperity gospel. Yeah. And they're it's kinda easy to spot them out because when they you can if you go to, like, maybe four to six Sundays in a row, and they're they're not gonna talk to about sin or conviction or judgment or the cross. And, like, there's some big when especially if they're making 20 to 30,000,000 a year. And so that's a lot of money. It's going you know? I mean, some baseball players are making it, obviously.
But how do you make that much money and preach the gospel? And I'm not saying you can't sell books Mhmm. Or record music. That's a different story. But I'm finding the churches are starting to get they're flooding, man. They're they're packing these churches. And these guys have got a soft message, and the message is you're good. You're doing okay. And you know what? I'm not gonna come down on your heart because life's already tough enough as it is, so why should I pound on you more? And you're good. I'm good. Goo goo goo chew. I am the egg man. And so a lot of those churches are filling up, and the ones that go bible believing churches, chapter to chapter or book to book Mhmm. You know, preaching the gospel every Sunday, attendance is starting to go down. And so Well, it's been doing that for a while now too. It's And that's that's what that was one of the things I was really, talking about and reading this week. One of the bigger things is the there's a shift there's a shift in everything. Mhmm. That's what I'm trying to say. And, the reset but I call it a shift because, you know, in football, you shift. But there seems to be a shift in Joe, and this is one of the things I'm saying. Society, we we we already see that. I mean, you've got mayors in the in the country. They'll they'll watch this. Once again, go back to Heath Leather's Joker.
He just wants to watch the world burn. Yeah. That's what Alfred told Batman. He just wants to watch the world burn. These guys will watch their cities burn and make the stick their finger in your face. That's it. Yeah. That's Trump or or the, Christy Noem or whoever the if the governor's at the same part, I cannot believe this party puppet string thing that if you follow this party, unless your name is Fetterman. You know, Fetterman sometimes the guy in the work democrat. He's not lop stack all lop stack all the time. But if you're a governor and your democratic mayor is letting your city burn or let me take over and and surrounding the police officers and letting them get overtaken by the the gangs or whatever.
The shift is in. There's a shift. It's if they don't give a squat about humanity, they just care about their own political party. But the thing is about the thing I sent you, there truly is and I'm gonna go on a limb here. We're bought off from China. If it's Disney or whatever, entertainment, and this is more stuff I'm gonna talk entertainment bought off. Disney can't make anything. They're garbage, and they've been garbage for twenty, thirty years. And the Saudis, they own news parts of these news people. You know? Fox is not even American owned. It's it doesn't it's not just American owned. It's who's buying who. Literally, practically, everybody in every part of society is a prostitute.
Interesting. Truly. Truly. I'm gonna put it all together as a prostitute. They're sold to the for whatever a night, a year contract. But, I mean, you couldn't look at the view and go, who's paying these women? You know? They'll they'll mock, you know, a a Republican woman who was stabbed in the eye and the kid's throat throat was slashed. Well, you know, the guy who did it was he had a bad upbringing. I mean, this is this is this something so diluted emotionally and not the spiritual yeah. Spiritually too, but emotionally and and and rational. There's no rational out there and logical stuff, but people are just they're they're they're getting to be where, it's like the puppet masters are running a thing. You know? So it's I can see where a lot of people stay home now. I went to go, we went to go watch a ballgame just because I don't have the tea. Place was empty. The guy goes, no. Well, you got a big screen at home. Right?
You have a streaming service there. That's easy to mouse. The beer is cheaper. The line in the bathroom is shorter. Food is cheaper, and nobody's in their way. And, you know, so he goes, we're losing to the big screens. He says pretty soon the old bar and pubs were, you know, like I said, us younger guys in there when I was in my thirties, so we'd meet there much of all game, that's gone. So everything that we grew up on, I I grew up on a on a on a on the front porch. Outside of Detroit, everybody on our street was on the front porch, or we'd call it people over and go in the back and get the firing going and listen to ballgame. Mhmm. That's kind of the American. It's boring to most people now, but that's gone too. So we've got they're they're they're closed. They get these gates that you can't see through, and it's part of the time. So, everything is seems to be changing because I it's much traveling I've been doing. I did, like, twenty years out there on the mission field. Twenty something years ago, people were really receptive of what we're doing now.
I don't know. Just, it's it's the word jaded, I think I came up with. It's jaded let me ask you. It's jaded they don't have a negative or positive thought about it or feelings? It just doesn't matter? No. I think it's more negative. I think it leans more negative. Is that what it is? I think so. Is jaded? Yeah. I think it depends in the context too. And and and what an an indifference, whatever indifference is. Is this people or they they just have no emotional or anything. They have no emotional responses. You know, I think, and so and we think about the phones.
I know. This is why I said I've been I'm gonna do less phone time. I'm working on less phone time. And that's why what's been going on? Well, not a lot. I haven't been on the phone. I've been reading and and and, going over some stuff and and working, trying to get the house cleaned up and get ready really, we have to get ready for the winter up here in the mountains. And so, I I I think of I asked my wife, we will not take the phones in the restaurant. Can we just leave them in the car? And she's cool with that. So, I mean, she's it's really massively important. I mean, we're not there very long, so I guess we can just, I don't know if you could see that. We can make it through dinner without getting a text.
There we go. Worn out. Do we seem like a worn out? We're not we're weary society? Weary. A lot of people are weary, Joe. Mhmm. They're worn out. It's not that I'm some naysayer or doom and gloom. I mean, spiritually, the Lord said, this world, you're gonna suffer. You're gonna suffer for his name. You're gonna this life isn't going to be that easy. He said there will always be struggles. And all the men that were courageous in the Bible, none none of it ended well for them in the sense of ending well, like, you know, none of them got a statue or a university named Adam. They got hung or or executed one way or another. Mhmm. And so in the first church, they were mostly pretty much martyred.
So, we look at ourselves with, nope. That's what I was gonna say. Talk to you about I was just reading where this is, the kids at eight they will graduate this year. None of them have not known the Internet. You probably heard this. They had not known the Internet. They've had the Internet. They've had cell phones. Most of them are 18. All the devices, everything they could possibly have to entertain themselves more than any time in history, and there's more depression and anti, depression medications just administered to this age group in history.
So it's not about entertain or being entertained or being kept busy. It's this, I mean and they're not even learning to have relationships. And a Stanford study showed that the sperm count of 14 and 14 to six year olds is going down because they play games all the time. They're not getting the the drive for the girls because the gaming is so intense and that's their their life. You know? They had this one kid. He dinged their dad to take him to hospital. He's on, like, forty six hours straight without getting off. I heard about that. He's dehydrated, and he had to have, you know, some medical attention because forty let's say forty six, forty eight hours. I mean, you do get dehydrated. You need water. So, especially at that age group. So yeah.
You're next. That's kinda I I had a a salad bowl of a lot of different things I've been reading the past couple of days and just going over, these things I've had notes on and, just some of the alternative news I was reading. And, I'm still looking at, my my guy out there in space, AI Atlas. My buddy AI Atlas, if you heard about that one. Oh oh, three I Atlas. Three I Atlas. I'm I'm intrigued on that one, man. Yeah. That's I hope it comes real close. That sounds pretty interesting. Yeah. For sure. Yeah. Actually, I actually, I wanted to do a, We just missed one just missed us 300 miles or 400 miles here the other day.
A meteor. Yeah. I heard. I thought you know what I did see during the election season? It's you know, how 2024 you got the candidates? It said 2024, meatier. Oh, I liked it. You know? Okay. Let me see.
[01:43:20] Unknown:
I'm As long as it I'm looking for something for us here. As long as it's California, I'll be fine. Let's see. When was when was this here? This was from oh, this is today. Today's the eighth. Yes. It's today. Let's see. Let's put this up here.
[01:43:41] Unknown:
I wore white today. I wore black today.
[01:43:44] Unknown:
Well, it's it's it's a good contrast with the, with the green screen. Yeah. Alright. Interstellar comet three I Atlas found spewing water far from the sun. Research say it may hold clues to how life travels across the universe. Really? Interesting. Right?
[01:44:01] Unknown:
Very interesting. Is your weight telling you the whole story? Is the what? Is your weight telling you the whole story? You're right.
[01:44:10] Unknown:
Let's see. Scientists calculated hydroxyl emissions within a 10 arc second radius, like I understand any of this. Confirming a dramatic increase in water production, which means the comets coma ejects around 40 kilograms of water every second. They also found at least 8% of the comet surface. 7.8 square kilometers. Now this isn't exactly what I was looking for, because there's a lot of speculations exactly what this thing is. People some some some folks are are talking about this is, first contact. What do you think?
[01:44:45] Unknown:
No. You know, it's a possibility. I don't I don't believe there's any, well, who what who what do I know? I just don't believe there's any other life form or any other planet in the I'm just gonna go with I'm old school because, well, it's really far out there, Wayne. I go, well, I I go with God. He he spoke the universe into existence. He would have gave us a clue if there's somebody else. If he would have said yeah. And I I meet someone else in our my our image somewhere else. Now there's some there's some rascals out there. And, and like I said, I had a late father-in-law who was a rocket scientist, and he was a usher in his church, which is a very vast, you know, contrast combination there. So he was teaching the guys how to land on the moon, and he was showing people their seats in church.
And he had a really good concept of there's things out there. And he tried to explain it to his daughter, which was my late wife, on parallel universes dimensions, which we don't think about, and principalities. And that's something that's it's it's sometimes hard to grasp her brain around. And the way he explained it, he just said, there's things that we cannot see that are there. And because of time space continuance, which I did not know, and my late wife knew the quantum string, which don't even ask me what that is, but she tried to explain it was when we're out of time was created. In the beginning, I created the heavens of the earth and, you know, and then, you know, as you go through Genesis and then the clock started. There's a time start. And so outside of time, it's just it's, you know, people say they've been up to heaven and back. I don't believe it. I'm sorry. I'm not gonna go with that one because Paul couldn't even explain what it looked like. But through that out of the time realm and that whole and I don't know what I'm talking about. I I know what the science back up, but there's something out there that can project itself in a different time faster than what you would see in Star Trek. And so it doesn't have to go very far because it's in a whole total dimension or The what do you call those? The black holes and portals and stuff like that. But there are there are entities. That's the word I'm looking for. That sounds Interdimensional beings.
Yeah. And they could probably ride in something or fly in something and make something and construct something and I I believe that. You know? I do believe that. I I think that there are internet I think I think that what people see,
[01:47:24] Unknown:
as talking about alien life or anything like that or they see the grays and and whatnot. Yeah. Right. I think I think those things are it's not necessarily alien life, I mean alien to us yeah because it's it's something different from us of course but I think it's more of I think they're inter interdimensional beings and I think they, a lot of it comes from through the spiritual world as well. I think I think a lot of those things are demonic beings and, and they have an agenda that they're looking to, to to to bring forward here. And, you know, you gotta be very careful with this stuff. You're playing what you're playing with things that you don't really understand. You gotta be very careful with it. You know, it's like, it's like with with with Shakespeare said, you know, there are more things in heaven and earth than I dreamt of in your philosophy.
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Right.
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You know, it's a very it's very interesting that this is taking place at this particular time in history. I don't know. I'm I'm very curious. You know, I I, you know, I'm I'm I truly am, and I'm I'm hoping I don't know what I'm hoping for, to be honest with this thing. You know, I wanna see it just pass at least and whatever. It's move on into obscurity, but, remember the all the all the the, the hoopla over what was that? What was the name of that one that came by really quick, a few years ago? Amumuamua, they called it? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Right. You know, it's it's just similar hype, I guess. I don't know, but I don't know. From some from some of the things I've seen, and I wish I would have known we were gonna talk about this because I had a whole bunch of stuff on my phone about this that I could have, got on onto the screen here. We could, show things and talk about it, but, you know there's who knows, man?
I don't know. I'm at a loss right now to be honest with you. I don't I don't even know what to think about this thing. You know, I I wanted to I would love this I would love it to be something, like, crazy out of this world that would answer a lot of questions a lot of people have, but at the same time, you know, I think people have been so conditioned at this point to expect some kind of alien life that it wouldn't surprise anybody. If it was And I think that was done intentionally. And then again, all it could also be, you know, the next big setup, you know, burner von Braun.
The father of the Saturn five rocket and pretty much America's space program. Basically, he warned us, he said that you know, that the the next thing is gonna be a false flag alien invasion. Right. You know? So and, I don't know. We'll see what we shall see.
[01:50:04] Unknown:
I grasp everything for fun. I mean, when X Files came out, it was like I had two channels I could get, and I had to go out, like, rotate my antenna. So, like, tonight, I could rotate it this way, get these shows. I go outside and rotate it that way. You know? Me and technology, I'll I I I just manage with it. Okay? I don't need to go high high end in it. So, but I was I seen the original first x file show because I just, okay. I can I can check the show out? And so I took it for fun. I take it all for fun. It's like no matter what it would I I'm still a Godzilla fan. I go Oh, I love Godzilla. Watching Godzilla, man. I you know, I Joe, I play these things through my mind, which is my my my oldest friends go, yeah. That thing is like it's humming. It's like one of those things go. I go, you know, if I had an interview for, like, if I want a gazillion dollars, I just use a gazillion. Okay? And what would the interview be? Like I said, well, first and foremost, I'm gonna get new tires for my '96 Ford Ranger. Let's say 50,000,000 or half a billion. I do that and I go, I wanna build a movie set and have my own Godzilla suit and destroy this thing.
[01:51:15] Unknown:
You could do that with your green screen.
[01:51:17] Unknown:
Yeah. So I'm going, but I wanna do a for real. And I some of my old buddy go, you know what? Me me too. I thought that was kinda cool too. You know? So some of the things I think are so far fetched. I got buddies I grew up with. You know? I'm not too far from that either, you know, putting on a Godzilla suit and tearing the place up. I go he goes, yeah. If you had a 50,000,000 or a half a billion dollars, that's the type of stuff you would do.
[01:51:43] Unknown:
Did you, speaking of, speaking of Godzilla, did you see the, the newest one, the, the Godzilla minus one?
[01:51:53] Unknown:
I haven't. It's on Netflix. I I got it's I have this winter thing. I watch a lot of stuff in the winter. I'll do Saturday nights, Friday, Saturdays for nights. So we get to pick each things. Yes. I wanna see it guys with a minus one. And, so, yeah, it's it's got an Academy Award, I guess. So, I just I like the old, you know, Ghidorah. Is it Ghidorah or is it Ghidorah? And, I well, I've been watching the past two weeks. I got onto a YouTube Godzilla. I I I subscribed to it. The dude is very serious. And Yoshiro Honda and then the production guy, Hiroshima Hamakama, and then his, screenwriter was Doki Haman Hatui. And he's going through all these names like you and he's he's got everybody nailed. And then he headed over to the next the sequel was done by and he's doing the director's names. And and this was the, the lead actor was, you know, Yahoo Magatore.
He was in Godzilla's revenge, but he also I go, I love this dude. I love this thing because, you know, Joe, I mean, I got guys that are, you know, we maybe we all do guys that make gazillion dollars and gazillion means it's more than me. You know, this that's for me. I know. And they know the same stuff we do. The guys that guys I grew up with, they'll say the same stuff too. I just don't let my wife know. My wife knows all that stuff. She goes, I married a 12 year old, so let them I'm gonna let them have fun. But,
[01:53:24] Unknown:
so I'm looking at I'm I'm I'm looking through all of these different
[01:53:28] Unknown:
I hope I didn't take the show down a bad rabbit hole. No. No. No. This is fine. Dude, this is good. Alright. This this is good. You have to be what I've been thinking. That was a bad mistake.
[01:53:37] Unknown:
I'm looking at at some of these images on, of this Godzilla stuff and just how how it's changed over the years. Mhmm. It's it's it's amazing. I don't know dude. I, like, I I saw I saw the Godzilla minus one. Mhmm. And I saw it in both versions of it. I saw the color version and the black and white. Right. I loved the black and white version. Same movie. I love black and white. Same exact movie, but you know what? It added such a different dimension to it. It was actually scarier than, than watching the color version. And, you know, not that not that Godzilla's movies are scary, but they're tense. No. Especially this one. This one is very dark. Great music too. Yeah. I love the music. This this one is is if you haven't seen it yet, this one is very dark. It's very brooding.
Yeah. It's it's very very serious, and it's incredibly well done. The special effects are fantastic in it. Mhmm. And, like, so if you haven't seen it yet, you need to see it. It's Nope. It's my win it's on my winter list. So Literally from March to, like,
[01:54:44] Unknown:
October is the the planting season, the the farming season, the outdoor season. So once November gets going and I hopefully get to get a couple of deer or elk or something in the freezer, and it's wintertime, and I start getting the categories of what I'm watching, you know, sci fi, my my kaiju movies, and, reruns from old classics and, stuff like like I said, I got the two seasons of Miami Vice I still wanna go through. Season one and two, You know? Like the original? Yeah. The original. I got them really cheap. I mean, you know, Amazon cheap back then, and I've got, Quantum Leap. I wanna finish that series. That was a good series. I like that. And so, it's just, I don't I like I said, I I have DVD and one I think I have Netflix. That's about it. Netflix and maybe one more. And so, it TV time, but it's like I said, it I'm gonna say it, man. I got the greatest life in the world. It's jammer time with the honey getting in on the couch, fire's crackling away. Are you kidding me? We'll put some cinnamon on it or potpourri, and we'll start going to you first. I get to watch mine, and we'll have a blast. And so and, you know, it doesn't snow up here. When it does, it's fun. And so but when it rains, it's not a big deal here. It sounds great on the roof. And so Yeah. And we'll we'll we'll make something fun and we'll make stuff, and that's that's not all the time. We just pick those days out there in a month. But it's it's just get away I I'm really good at getting away from this world because I'm practically away from the world anyhow. One of the things that I wanna do and I need to start try to start doing is I I need to I need to do the same thing. I need to,
[01:56:27] Unknown:
and I tried to do this. It's just hard with my regular job because I'm on calls, you know, most of the time. So it's, I wanna disconnect, man. I just wanna, like, put my phone on do not disturb, you know, from, like, Friday until Sunday and just disappear and just not, you know, do my thing and and do what I gotta do around my home and, you know, and and and development and know all that stuff and just not deal with any of that any of the outside world. Just deal with my own stuff and spend time, quiet time. You know, one of the things that that I've I've kind of, drifted away from and, you know, coming back to it now, it's it's it's been, I'm trying to think of the right word to say, like, it's like it's it's been a a sweet time of fellowship Is, When I first when I first became a Christian, and I first got saved, I Used to spend So much time.
In quiet time with the Lord and prayer and, just quiet meditation. You know? And it and just so just so people understand, when I say in prayer and quiet minutes, I'm not talking about, you know, laying on the floor, prostrate, you know, with, you know, face down on the floor. I'm not talking about that. You you can sit and talk to the Lord just like this right now. Like, Wayne could be talking to the Lord right now in his in his thoughts. You know? I used to do it a lot more frequently and, you know, I kinda I kinda fell away from that because I let myself get distracted with a lot of things over the years. And recently, I've I've committed myself to making more time in that quiet, meditative, contemplative frame of mind and just talking to the Lord.
And, you know, it's been great. I I I it's something I needed to do. I think I really needed to get back to that more. I don't wanna say I hate using the term religiously, but you know what I'm saying when I say that, you know, it's it's incredibly important. And, you know, I I it's it's just something that, you know, you feel the Holy Spirit pulling you towards it. You you and if you're sensitive to it, you'll understand what I'm talking about. You know, the Holy Spirit kind of tugs on your heart and says, hey. You know what? You you you need to be over here for a minute, you know, and you you and and if you don't, you could easily say no. I wanna watch this. Put something on the on the on the TV.
I call it the hella vision. You know, you could very easily ignore it. But, you know, lately, I I I've been in that mindset where the other I've been feeling feeling the holy spirit tugging on the heart, and I've been responding to it. And, you know, and and again, I'm not talking about, like, these long formal prayers or anything like that. A lot of times I'm at my job and I'm I'm I'm plunging a toilet or something like that, you know, and the Holy Spirit says, hey, let's talk for a second, you know, and, you know, and while you're over there doing what you're doing, you're you're having a conversation in your thoughts and in in your mind because God knows your thoughts. He knows everything about you before you know it. You know? And, so you don't have to be on your knees. You don't have to be in, you know, some prostrate position. You don't have to do anything like that. Be sitting down. You can just be walking down the street talking to the Lord. It's it's a the Bible tells us to. The Bible tells us to pray without ceasing.
Right? So what does that mean? Does that mean that that you're always gonna be in in a formal prayer? You know, you you know, you're gonna be going about your life, you're gonna be in in prayer thinking, talking to the Lord in your thought in your mind, in your heart, in your thoughts. And, it's something I got away from and I I needed to get back to it and I did and it's been it's been an exceptionally sweet fellowship, if if you understand what I mean by that. Yeah.
[02:00:29] Unknown:
So, like I say, Wayne's World, you know, we started I got the hat. Someone bought it for me, but I, I, like I say, I'm truly what mean when I say the things I like to do and I love to do, I can afford. This was, this was a 100 and something dollars. We went on a fishing trip. I take a look at the picture and people wonder, why are you so laid back?
[02:00:54] Unknown:
That's beautiful. Look at that.
[02:00:58] Unknown:
I know it doesn't show it on the screen. It's hard to see it, but yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Just this is my favorite one right there. There's there's the pull. Oh, it's beautiful. Yeah. It it was a 100 for the hotel, $150 for both of us to go catch a cooler full of salmon. And that's not that's not a bad price for that. Well, the salmon, if you what do we how do we we do the per pound stuff? $12, we caught six fish, times 60, times 12. Yeah. Yeah. Definitely paid for the trip. Absolutely. I mean, I think we caught a thousand over a thousand dollars worth of fish this summer between halibut and salmon. Oh, $1,500. And I think we probably spent 2 couple $100. But the thing was the trips out there at the ocean and the rivers. So and we're close to this. This is my backyard. So, like I said, the things I love to do, I can afford. Fish, hunt, camp, and hike. I really don't wanna do anything more than that. I had a nice bonfire in the back there.
I I just like I said, this is a guy, like, just like you. You're from Brooklyn. I grew I was born in the East Side Of Detroit downtown, but I grew up right. From Livonia where I grew seven mile in Inkster is five miles from the Detroit city limits. So grew to suburbs, but it's still Detroit. The smell of Detroit was right there. And people go, why did you move up to the mountains? Everybody still lives there. All my friends. Everybody I grew up with are within 20 10 to 20 miles of their high school. Mhmm. Just the nature boy. Ric Flair is the real nature boy. It's me. Yeah. And so I'm just different. I, my fam Well, I get My mom says it. Because I I I love
[02:02:33] Unknown:
being out in nature. I love being out, you know, and and just just watching a sunset, just watching a sunrise, you know, the most beautiful thing in the world. You know, God is an incredible, incredible artist, and he he paints with such a beautiful brush. Mhmm. You never see colors anywhere. You you cannot duplicate the colors that that you see at the sunrise and and what you can try, but it's not you're not gonna get anywhere near it. And, you know, and God did all that for us.
[02:03:01] Unknown:
Right. For us. So, so I I find myself, like I say, I'm I'm stepping aside from the phone. So I I could say, so always this week wasn't a very big news week in my brain. I guess I could tell you what I've been doing in in my my world. It's it's this farm and what's going on and, what I have to get done. It's boring stuff. I mean, it really is to most people, but, I I could go into Fox News in fifteen, twenty minutes or some of my new sites, and I could just mockingbird everything. That's what's going on right now. This this this GOP here, this, city here isn't burning down. This governor said this. This mayor said this. This, you know, blah blah blah blah blah blah. It's just same old it really is the same old stuff. And so there's nothing new. But, what's new with me? I just I had a bonfire.
Nice. You know? But it's great.
[02:03:50] Unknown:
As a matter of fact, I think I'm gonna do I'm gonna set up a I got my fire pit inside. I'm gonna set a fire fire later. Is this a fire pit something, Joe? I love it. I was just sitting there with I was, you know, sitting there with a rake or, you know,
[02:04:01] Unknown:
just watching it and have the chickens over there and they're doing their little world and, you know, and it was getting to be dusk up in the mountains. Yeah. Yeah. And now I got two I got two owls coming. I got two owls back there. Nice. So they're hooing back and forth. Unbelievable. That's beautiful. I mean, two in the morning did, doesn't we? I this incredible how they we, connect with each other. And so, yeah, it's my world, and I guess it's not for everybody. And people wonder why I live way back in the woods back there, and I go I I live the other side. I I've lived in I live where the guy sets his lawnmower up at 7AM on a Sunday. Nice. Right outside your bedroom window. Beautiful.
Yeah. It's not it's not my bag, baby. So I agree. That's that's kind of what I had. I like I said, there's a lot of stuff going on in our state that, politically wise that are people are waking up. They're waking up and going. Do they have the power? Do they have the we I don't think we could ever have a fair vote here. You know? We had a guy, Dino Rossi, about fifteen years ago. He won the election, but he didn't. They had a second count, and he won it. And the third one, he lost. They found some they found they found voters' pamphlets. They found, like, 10,000 pamphlets of voter pamphlets. Nice. And Christine Gregoire, which Christine Gregoire, we called her, she won. She three times? Yeah. I remember it. The republic our republican will never win here. They'll never win here unless it's they get rid of mail in voting. We're just gonna be we're gonna be,
[02:05:26] Unknown:
ball and chain to the blue state for now. Well, we're gonna table we're gonna have to table this conversation for next week because it is time for us to say goodnight.
[02:05:33] Unknown:
I got I got Charles. Anybody. I just, I'm I'm just I'm really relaxed today because I just Yeah. You'd got away from electronics.
[02:05:40] Unknown:
Exactly. You gotta do your thing, brother. Yeah. Alright. Put on the green screen. Wayne, thank you again. It's been an honor honor and a privilege. Oh, no. For me, dude. Thank you. I I appreciate you taking the time to be with us tonight. And,
[02:05:52] Unknown:
hey, God bless you, brother. Why don't you close us out with a prayer before we go? Alright. Dear heavenly father, you know all things, and you know what this nation needs. You know what president Trump you know, I would love the people to understand if he fails, we fail. Why would we want him to fail? Because it it's just would would trickle down, and we just pray that he can connect in The Middle East and truly the people who are suffering If we look at that first, let's not look at the hatred. Let's look at the suffering. And the Lord said, yeah, there will be suffering out there, but let's suffer the little children. Let's pray for this truly is a at least a ceasefire agreement or go to separate corners for now, Lord. Just that's your home area, father. You know that area very well and the the history of it. Lord, we just pray for our country and all the turmoil in the cities and the the backstabbing and hatred. Lord, just put put your providence on this nation for now. And, Lord, just protect our fire and police, our responders, and the people out there serving and the the the the national guardsmen or military and all those people who really do put themselves out, Lord. We just pray for our families who do not know you, and we pray for the the people we come across in business or in the the shows here that do not know you, Lord. It's, one day you will show everyone who you are, and let's pray for Joe and and and the doggies and their health and just pray for just we go to sleep tonight and go, Lord, thank you for one more day. And as as Paul said, run the race, you know, and fight the good fight. And that's all we ask for is just to look on us and most importantly all to do your will, not ours. In Jesus' name, amen.
Amen. Amen, brother. Thank you so much for that. I appreciate that. God bless you. Thank you so much for being with us tonight. I, at churches, they've, I've been called the the long prayer, so sometimes they'll pass on me. Yeah. They give me they give me under two minutes.
[02:07:47] Unknown:
I'll just shut you off next time. It's alright. Alright, brother. Bless hey. Blessings to you. God bless you. Have a great night, and I will I will talk to you tomorrow. I'll give you a call. Everybody in Seattle go tigers.
[02:07:59] Unknown:
Yeah. I'm gonna if they win, I'm wearing everything to church on Sunday. I got some I love it, but I love it. Go for it. Do it. I'm waiting for the pastor to kick me out, you know. Do it. And real fast, the Seattle people the Seattle sports guys are really nervous. They are nervous for, Tariq Skubal. This guy is he's like the Andy Pet of his time. Nice. This guy's he's incredible. So, you know, it's gonna be a good game five Friday. Alright. Have a wonderful weekend. Alright, my brother. Weekend weekend. Alright. Thank you. We'll talk to you later on. I'll see you tomorrow. Alright. Alright. Bye bye.
[02:08:34] Unknown:
Alright, folks. Wayne Rankin joining us from the People's Republic Of Washington State. Thanks again, brother. I'll talk to you in a bit. Thank you. Take care. Alright. Folks, don't forget to check us out on our socials. We're gonna say goodnight at this point. So, just check us out on our socials. Always good to connect there. Shout outs to our executive producers, Wayne Rankin, Rosanna Rankin, Carolina Jimenez, Marissa Lee, and anonymous Angela. Thank you so much guys for all that you do for, for donating your time, your talent, your treasure, helping us put together a show, and, having a great time doing it. So thank you guys so much for it. Also, I wanna say thank you to the two anonymous donations that went to the GoFundMe. Again, we we have a GoFundMe set up just to, you know, kind of bit of a of an issue here with the, with with the mortgage payment. It's gonna be a big increase for us, and, it might really set back a lot of what we're doing. So we have a QR code up there on the screen. If you if you have the ability to do so, you could scan that thing. You can make a donation any amount. Does every little bit helps right now, so we we appreciate that.
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Cold open and show intro from Eagle Pass
Tonight’s lineup: Patrick San Gimino and Wayne Rankin
Breaking: Trump touts phase one Israel–Hamas peace plan
Audience engagement and value-for-value housekeeping
Guest intro: Patrick San Gimino on journalism and his novel
Warm-up: two questions—unknown facts and unwind beverages
Italian roots, food culture, and life outside NYC
Real Italian vs. “Italian”: deli talk and Olive Garden gripes
Prosciutto quests and cooking stories
From sports fan to sportswriter: origin story
Covering the NFL: the beat, travel, and media machine
Dogs Chase Cars: fiction rooted in newsroom reality
Digital disruption: classifieds collapse and Twitter’s rise
Athletes as brands: Ochocinco and the press box epiphany
What’s missed and not missed about newsrooms
The daily miracle of print and why it faded
Title story: why Dogs Chase Cars and the life metaphor
One-day structure and the “godwink” flashbacks
Media arrogance then, survival mode now
Trump vs. media and the 24/7 cycle
Long-form conversations and organic rabbit holes
How local newsrooms really work behind the scenes
What’s next for the protagonist—and for Patrick
AI in journalism: tells, tone, and authenticity
What readers should take away: work, love, and regret
Italian sports lineage: Vince Lombardi stories
Who inspires Patrick now: JD Vance and Rubio talk
Where to find the book and signing plans
Hour two reset and Wayne Rankin joins
Platforms, live streams, and Rumble shout-outs
Wayne on the reported Israel–Hamas peace development
War fatigue, costs of living, and a weary public
Fact-check mindset: taxes, budgets, and bills
Schemers, media, and power: Joker analogies
Detroit sports interlude and fandom
Building Wayne’s vidcast: green screen plans
Prosperity gospel vs. Bible preaching trends
Phones, indifference, and a weary culture
3I/ATLAS comet chat and interdimensional musings
Kaiju corner: Godzilla love and Minus One
Simple pleasures: life in the mountains
Closing reflections and prayer
Thank-yous, support links, and goodnight
