In this episode of The Joe Rooz Show, Joe delves into the importance of free speech and the role of platforms like Rumble in preserving it. Joe discusses the challenges faced by Rumble in maintaining a space for uncensored content amidst pressure from governments and corporate advertisers. He encourages listeners to support Rumble by joining Rumble Premium, emphasizing the platform's commitment to the First Amendment.
Joe is joined by guest Joseph M. Lenard, a Christian author and speaker, who introduces the concept of "Christitutionalism," blending Christian faith with constitutional conservatism. They discuss the importance of biblical community, the pitfalls of communism, and the significance of maintaining a republic over a mobocracy. The conversation touches on various topics, including mental health, the impact of personal journeys on public speaking, and the role of humor in serious discussions. The episode is lively and engaging, with a mix of humor and deep insights into societal and political issues.
In the second hour, Joe is joined by Kevin Stone. Kevin is the go-to hypnotherapist for world leaders, top-tier athletes, business executives, and celebrities. Unfortunately, due to audio trouble, the interview was shortened.
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(00:04:57) Introduction and Rumble's Free Speech Stand
(00:07:43) Technical Difficulties and Guest Introduction
(00:13:41) Joseph M. Leonard's Background and Beliefs
(00:27:41) Discussion on Christian Values and Politics
(00:38:39) Personal Journey and Political Views
(00:46:24) Generational Shifts and Political Landscape
(00:52:11) Terror Strikes Book and Public Reaction
(01:04:15) Transition to Second Hour and New Guest Introduction
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Well, all right folks. This is Joe Roos, and it is great to be with you again on another beautiful night here in Eagle Pass, Texas. And it is nineteen o five hours on Friday, Friday, 07/18/2025. And we are transmitting to you live tonight from the asylum studios, deep in the bowels of Southwest Texas, from the pimple on the backside of Texas, the beautiful city of Eagle Pass. And we're gonna do the very best we can to bring you the best quality talk radio we could muster without all the bluster. This is The Joe Ryu Show. Alrighty.
Well, folks, it is great to be with you again here tonight. It is an absolute thrill, and I'm gonna tell you something. It is great to be here on Rumble, because when Rumble first started in 02/2013, they built the platform for the small creator. They didn't censor or have biases. They were fair and treated all creators equally. No one thought platforms would censor political conversation or censor opinions, but they did. Facebook admitted to it. Facebook actually admitted they felt the pressure from the Biden and Harris administration, but, you know, Rumble did not. Rumble held the line, and they're attacked daily for giving us a voice to talk to you.
They are attacked in the corporate media. They're attacked in by governments like France. They're attacked from brand advertisers who refuse to work with them. Corporate America is doing everything they can to fight to remove free speech, but Rumble is fighting to keep it. Rumble won't survive with brand advertisers. They don't get much of it, but will survive with you. Watching our show on Rumble is the most they can ask from you, but if you really believe in this fight folks, and if you have the means to do it, one major way that you can help Rumble is by joining Rumble Premium. Join the community that believes in the first amendment and believes in our human right to free speech.
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Bill number one paid. Alright. Looks like our our system here just went down. Let's get that back up and running. Yep. I'm over here extolling the virtues of rumble, and what happens? We crash. And if you're wondering who that cackle is behind me here, that's, that's our guest, Joseph M. Leonard. Joe, why don't you put on your camera since you're already there?
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Yeah. Oh,
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yeah. The joys of the joys of live broadcasting,
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my friends. Amen. I'm a former IT guy, so believe me. You know how it is. Like, how I couldn't begin to tell you the number of times I'd be at work and get a call. It's like, this is doing it can't be doing that. Well, it's doing this. So it's like, okay. Well, how is it doing that? Why is it doing that? Yeah.
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Yeah. I know. I know. Well, let me let me finish getting through the opening here in one piece, and, we'll we'll pick it up with you in a second. Alright, folks. So listen, do me a favor. Head over to our website. That's joeroos.com. Joe, you know, you can leave the camera on, Joe, they know you're here. It's okay.
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Hide in the background. No. You're good. You're fine. I'm not here. Nothing
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to see here.
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Nothing to see. Move along. Right. Right. So just Mostly peaceful fires in the background. There you go. So head over to the website, joerus.com.
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Instead of an electric boogaloo, it's ek electro electric blue go loo.
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Comments from the peanut gallery. I should never pass on the stupid puns. No. No. You can't. You got you gotta let them go. You gotta you gotta let them fly. Alright. Well, we have a packed show for you tonight folks. Our first guest is already here with us, he's hanging out here in the wings. And then, we have, we have a second hour guest that'll be coming up, at probably about the 08:05 hour or so. So we'll let you know, when he checks in. Alright. But with us right now is Joseph m Leonard. I had to make sure we said that correctly because there is, someone else out there with the same name, but just pronounced slightly different.
[00:13:09] Unknown:
Yeah. No. Yeah. Exactly. I am Joseph m Leonard. It looks French. It's not Leonard. It's it was Leonard Owaskovitski or something. I haven't dug back enough in the family tree to find out what the original Polish was, but, yeah, Leonard without an o. But there is a Joseph Leonard out of South Carolina. I'm in Michigan. And we're both Christian authors. Well, that explains a lot. I am not he. He is not me, and neither of us are Shakespeare.
[00:13:42] Unknown:
Well, well, our Joseph m Leonard is the mind behind the term Christitutionalist. That's a blend of faith and, constitutional conservatism that fuels his books, his podcast, and his nationwide speaking. He's also the author of multiple works including an Amazon bestseller, Terror Strikes coming soon to a city near you, which is really a hard hitting fact fiction thriller based on historical realities, as well as a practical, as well as practical guides like how to write a book and, and get it published, and podcasting, a quick a quick start guide. Joseph brings his message to over 15 social platforms, podcasts like Savage Unfiltered, and countless interviews across the country. And whether he's talking about government overreach, mental health, tech, or UFOs, you can count on him to bring both fire and facts to the table. Joe, I'm excited to have you here on the show tonight. Thank you so much for being with us this evening.
Just wanna kinda jump right into this here with just a few simple little warm up questions, you know, kinda get loose Alright. You know, in the bullpen kinda thing. So, what what what's one thing that most people don't know about you that you're willing to talk about?
[00:14:54] Unknown:
Well, that's a short list. Yeah. No. That's a good question. I mean, I, something I don't normally like to talk about, but I feel I must talk about. I'm on various shows talking about mental health issues. I'm a suicide attempt survivor, 02/2004, still here. You know? You don't know what tomorrow will bring until you carpe diem. In fact, my sixth international book is going to drop in the next few days, Amazon exclusive, The book of Kennedy, Project Carpe Diem is the subtitle. And it's indeed all about that life and living and all life, every life has value and meaning.
Whether you see it or not is you know, it's not it's a wonderful life on TV. Right? Mhmm. You're not gonna get Clarence come down and show you your overly dramatic life. Most of our lives aren't overly dramatic, but little things add up and matter. I call it the and I go into this into the in the book of Kennedy that'll be dropping. The Pantene shampoo effect. I had, cancer in 2010 also. So leukemia, hence, the lack of the hairdo. When the chemo caused it to come out, I decided I'm gonna shave a ton on shampoo and conditioner and just shave it. So And and hair dye. But the yeah. Yeah. The Pantene effect. Right? Remember that ad? They tell two friends, they they tell two friends, they they tell you know, pretty soon you've got a movement. Right? A smile you give someone, even if forced, is that having a bad day, then may turn around and force a smile to someone else who's contemplating suicide. Mhmm. And that one small thing churns their day around. And maybe they go on later to have a child who will cure cancer. Mhmm. It's the butterfly effect.
That little smile you think nothing about flaps its wings and causes the tsunami across the world.
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Well, that's great, Joe. That that's that's really good.
[00:17:18] Unknown:
I don't think that's really good. I'm not happy to talk about that. No. That's fine. You know? It's fine. I I'm I'm here for a reason, and you are too. So I feel
[00:17:29] Unknown:
guilty to say that. I totally agree with you because I I I've I've told the audience this before, and and I've actually hosted a show about this, is, like yourself, I am a suicide survivor as well. So, Had no idea. No? No idea when I started sharing that. There you go. So that and that's just the way the Holy Spirit works. Sometimes he brings it into that type of fellowship, so that's a great thing. Alright. End of the day, what what do you like to drink to relax and unwind?
[00:17:54] Unknown:
Well, it's seeing me sipping on this, the the glass looks rather brown because a chocolate Coke. Most people think of vanilla Coke or a cherry Coke, a glass of Coke with some Hershey's syrup, slowly, carefully poured in and slowly, carefully mixed so it doesn't fizz all over the place.
[00:18:17] Unknown:
Love chocolate Cokes. I think you I think you might need to slow down on the sugar on that though, bud. You might be better off with some of the ultra blue meth methylene blue here. They'll Yeah. They'll give you that energy boost without that without the crash.
[00:18:36] Unknown:
Well, I get these little bursts of energy. That's another thing people don't know about me because it's not you know, you mentioned Savage Dunfiltr. I'm a k a Ragin' Joe and Patrick.
[00:18:47] Unknown:
From. I was wondering because I saw I see it on the bottom of the screen on your name there, and I was wondering where that came from. Yeah. A Jay Leonard Detroit. Joseph m Leonard AKA Jay Leonard Detroit because I'm in a Detroit suburb Okay.
[00:19:01] Unknown:
AKA Ragin' Joe and Jokester Joe on Savage Unfiltered. And, yeah, people think I'm this Energizer Bunny all the and that couldn't be the furthest. I'm on disability. I've been on disability since 02/2004. Okay. After a show, I need an app. I'm good for these bursts of energy, but then, no. I'm out. Time for an app. Kinda wears you out. Right?
[00:19:29] Unknown:
I get you. I get you. Well, my not that you asked, but my go my go to, at the end of the day is usually a bourbon. So, I I love my bourbons, and the good bourbon, a good cigar, and, you know, good woman on the side there is great. You know, this is kinda I have a friend on Wham Radio out of Ann Arbor, Michigan here.
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He's he used to do a show, what used to be called Bourbon on the Rocks.
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Okay. You know, actually, I thought about doing a show like that at one point. I was doing a cigars cigar and bourbon thing. You know?
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But Exactly right. And that's what it was. But you see woman, friends sitting around drinking bourbon, smoking on stogies and Yeah. But you see having conversation.
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My studio is is not equipped with the kind of ventilation you need for that, so
[00:20:16] Unknown:
we we probably all smoke each other out very quickly. Do if you're at Red State. I used to write for Red State years ago. I'm not there anymore. I write on the Forbes News, the Liberty Beacon, Substack, Blogspot, but I used to be with Red State for a while. Thomas LaDuke still writes for Red State. Yeah. I read Red State. Over Yeah. Duke over America now, but, yeah, he used to do Bourbon on the Rocks. Yeah. That's that's that'd be a good idea, you know, but, yeah, you know what it is. It's
[00:20:48] Unknown:
don't have the abilities to do that right now, but I'll I'll I'll enjoy that in my in my private time. But, and so I wanna get into this with you here, because this is really interesting. I'd never heard this before. A Christi No. You haven't. A Christiutionalist. So why don't you break that down for us? What does that term actually mean? You haven't heard it before because I invented it. Hey. Listen. Wait. Hold hold hold on. Let let me just back up one second. Alright. You're you're you're a Christian man? Yes. Alright. Well well, don't you remember what Solomon said? There is nothing new under the sun. If so if so, if you thought of it someone before, you thought of it first.
Probably. But I have it trademarked. But you trademarked it. That's it. Yes.
[00:21:36] Unknown:
Christian based US constitutionalism. Our Judeo Christian ethos foundations. Biblical community, which is free will and charity. We are to want to be our brother's keeper, but also the Bible clearly makes a distinction between those who are unable to do and those who are unwilling. I have no I am not duty bound to help anyone who is unwilling to do anything for themselves, but those who are unable and as I said, I'm on disability myself
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Mhmm.
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Versus worldly bastardized biblical community communism, which is by force and theft. You don't have free will. You have no choice. You do what they tell you. You give them what they tell you you owe them so they can give it to unwilling people to buy votes with. Kinda like the IRS. Yeah. Yeah.
[00:22:44] Unknown:
Well, taxation is theft. Yes. Yes, it is. I I'm I love this man. I I love this man. I I did a I did a whole rant about two weeks ago about how taxation is theft and property taxes are immoral.
[00:22:59] Unknown:
You know, I, you know, I I'm on disability now, and I'm in my sixties, obviously. So, I'm obviously more against property taxes than I was, but I always had been. Even in my twenties, I recognized you can't be kicking people out of their homes who own them supposedly free and clear, but, no. Really, we're all renters. That's right. This Yeah. You owe the the city. You owe the county. You owe the state. You're renting that property. No. Seniors should not out of their homes. Property taxes are the most immoral of all the taxes. Preach it, man. But, yeah, back to Christianist, Dennis Prager set me straight on something. You know, as a Christian, I recognize I'm human. I'm frail. I'm flawed and imperfect, And I get things wrong from time to time. I have a meme I like to share. It says, you can lead a liberal to the facts, but you can't make them think. Right? Kinda like the horse to water and you can't make them drink, think.
But that's wrong. Classical liberals, and Dennis set me straight on this, aren't the same as leftists. You can lead us to the facts, but you can. A classical liberal, you can red pill like a Brandon Straka or a Candace Owens or a Leo Turrell who all red pill. They were classical liberals. And I make the distinction, like I said, taxation is theft. The usual libertarian line. That's the libertarian streak. But today, most in that party are liberaltarians, not libertarians anymore. They're very social leftists.
[00:24:54] Unknown:
Right. Yes. I agree. See, I I actually call myself a conservatarian.
[00:25:00] Unknown:
I I I wrote on the before it's new about what is a conservatarian.
[00:25:07] Unknown:
I wrote that, like, five years ago. You see? Exactly. That's my point. I thought I came up with something on my own, and here's somebody who did it already. You see that? You see? Yeah. I I just proved, we just proved, and in, like, ten seconds that the Bible is true. Yeah. Yeah. But neither of us mark that, so we're both screwed. Well, basically, yeah. True true to that. True to that. So I I think we should go and and probably investigate it to see if it it has been trademarked. If it hasn't Or not. We better we better do it soon.
[00:25:40] Unknown:
Exactly. Because that came up on Gab, one of the 15 plus social media platforms I'm on. On Gab, one person said asked, is there such a thing as a conservatarian? Right? Cross between a conservative and a libertarian. And, yeah, a a real libertarian and a real conservative are pretty much the same thing. But I invented Christianist because conservative, liberal, left, right Yeah. Progressive, conserve these have all got such knee jerk negative connotations to them now. They do. Yes. So I thought, okay, Christiutionos. You're either a real Christian rooted in the whole Bible, not one of these Kumbaya, my lord, around the campfire Jesus version only.
You can't leave out the tough love parts of the Bible. No. If you pick and choose, you're not a real Christian. You're a Matthew 23. Fake fraud, viper, snake, false guide that Jesus told us about. It's the whole Bible in whole in full context. You're either a real Christian or you're a fraud, hence, Christianist. Yeah. Because, again, most people don't most people know the Mayflower Compact. Right. But that's all they know. They don't understand it was a communist compact. Before Marx ever came along, Marxism, socialism, communism failed here.
They almost all started death in the Bradford Colony. That's right. And in turn, he pivoted away from communism, the com commie compact, and instituted private property, individual rights versus collectivism. And the rest, as they say, is history. The United States, our founders learned biblical community works, worldly communism does not, and we became the greatest, most prosperous, and free nation on the planet because of it. Amen. Amen.
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Now one one of the things you you talked about, you know, embracing the love of God and they don't or or that God is love, but they don't look at the other aspects of God. God is holy. And because God is holy, you have to also take into consideration the other attributes. God is holy, God is a God of judgment, and he's a God of love. Of course. Absolutely. But people don't wanna know about the God of judgment. They only wanna talk about the God that's love.
[00:28:30] Unknown:
Kumbaya. Let's sing around the campfire, everybody. Right? The point. And pretend that other stuff doesn't exist. Exactly. That's exactly right. That he's the same Jesus that overturned the money changer tables. He's the same Jesus that says, go forth. Yes. I forgive you, but go forth and sin no more now. That's right. Do better. Be better. I want better for you. I I understand, but I want better for you. Not just I can continue to sin as much as I want and pretend I will always be forgiven. There are red lines in the Bible that you cannot cross. That's right. And I say on Christian politics all the time, Matthew seven is really condemn not lest ye be condemned in the original Aramaic, Greek, Latin, and Hebrew because there are a dozen plus other scriptures.
Again, those tough both parts that tell you to judge, including remove the log from thine own eye. That's right. We are to judge. We are. The Bible tells us if you actually read the thing.
[00:29:45] Unknown:
The apostle Paul even said, you know, that that he that is spiritual judgeth all things. So you you you're supposed to judge, but you're supposed to do it in a way that that's, that But not condemned. Not pointing that that finger of condemnation at somebody.
[00:30:00] Unknown:
Right. Final judgment is for that of the Lord. Exactly. We are to judge, and we are to condemn to a degree the death penalty. I it drives me insane, the number of Christians. Oh, I'm against the death penalty because of the Bible. You didn't read Genesis, Numbers, and Leviticus then. Is the Old Testament no longer relevant? I get a lot of antisemitic Christians. Right? Mhmm. Jesus was born a Jew, raised a Jew, became a rabbi at 30 under Jewish law and tradition, the king of the Jews. My savior is a Jewish man. That's right. But antisemites like to say, oh, he replaced the old no. Jesus never he said I am here to fulfill the scriptures, not replace them and the prophets.
So you say the Old Testament doesn't matter. So,
[00:30:59] Unknown:
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[00:32:56] Unknown:
Okay. Yeah. I didn't know if you wanted me to go dark there or not. No. No. No. It's it's to Vicks inhaler, people. It's not cocaine. It's a Vicks inhaler. One of my many
[00:33:07] Unknown:
health issues while I'm on disability. Whatever float whatever floats your boat, brother. Yeah.
[00:33:13] Unknown:
Sinus problem.
[00:33:14] Unknown:
That's alright. I apologize for the crashing. I don't know. I think it's the I think it's the the reeds that are popping up that are causing a crash. So I we're we're we're gonna refrain from any more at this point. So so, so so, Joe, your your work spans politics, publishing, podcasting, and even get into a little bit of UFO chatter.
[00:33:30] Unknown:
Yes. What topic? Been on the Ireland, UFO Society. I've been on their show a couple of times. Alright. But but Because the Bible, exclusion does not mean preclusion, or exclusion does not mean preclusion or preclusion does not mean exclusion, however you wish to say that. The Bible does not say, and God created man and only God and only man was created on earth and nothing, nowhere else. It doesn't say that. In fact, it says the Nephilim. In fact, it if you read Enoch and Ezekiel, there are other creatures. God can explain aliens.
Aliens can't explain God. So if a UFO or several and 10 different type of creatures put on the White House lawn on live TV, as the joke goes. My faith isn't disrupted because I haven't had this silly notion of God only created man, and man is all he and then the animals on the earth is all he created. In fact, it says, and each was created to its kind, which tells you the kind already existed before the animals and we on this earth were created.
[00:34:53] Unknown:
Are you done?
[00:34:57] Unknown:
Well, you can you tell you touched a nerve? I thought Just a little bit. I I was gonna oh, oh, I didn't know what either leave things out of the Bible or try to search shit in there that isn't there sets me off.
[00:35:13] Unknown:
I love it. You got a little raging Joe from 07:30. That's that's good. I I just love how you put shit and bible in the same sentence. Oh, Joe, all I wanted to know was all about the politics publishing podcasting you have. What ties all of that together? Well, that I I didn't I just kinda put it in the In a way, yeah. But that I I I was expecting something else. Alright. But let's get serious for a second though. Just just for a second. Alright?
[00:35:43] Unknown:
Oh, that's serious.
[00:35:44] Unknown:
No. I I mean I mean serious. You know what I'm saying, John. You you've overcome cancer.
[00:35:49] Unknown:
Alright? Yeah. Yeah. Hence the life of the hairdo. Yes. Yeah. You you you've launched multiple books. You carved out
[00:35:57] Unknown:
a a really and actually a very a bold political voice. Was there a moment that that shifted your path from, you know, regular Joe to raging Joe?
[00:36:08] Unknown:
No. That's always been you know, that's another thing that bothers me is, Michael, AKA Savaged from Savage Stemfilter, has said a friend of his says, you know, that Joe is kind of a conundrum. He's a he's he's got that g rated Christian show, but on Savaged Unfiltered, boy, does he let some stuff fly. That's because we are more than we're not schizophrenic. There's not voices in my head, but we are different pieces of different personalities. Yes. That's part of being human. Right? And I let my more wild side out on Savaged Unfiltered and on my show. I and like you said, I put shit in in Bible in the same sentence. You know? Right? That's part of being a natural normal human. I you know, I'm not a pretentious asshole or as I call them, the mass holes, the masses of asses. Or liberals. There's a bunch of mass holes out here who are so uptight and think everything evolves and revolves the whole planet around them, like the rush, not the not Limbaugh, but the rock group. Right? We are merely players, performers, and portrayers, each another's audience just like the gilded stage.
Right? That that is indeed true. But some people think they are the the primary cast and everybody else's ancillary, bit players.
[00:37:50] Unknown:
I'm trying to I I had I had I had a comment for that, and I I I it just literally flipped out of my mind. So I'm just gonna want to to the next question that I had for you, and that was, you know Well, no. They are the cancer. Yeah. I had APL leukemia.
[00:38:04] Unknown:
In fact, I've got a friend, Ed Bondarenka, who does your American Heritage WAM radio. Second time I'm mentioning them now. Out of Ann Arbor Ray, Ann Arbor, Michigan, WAM radio, he does your American heritage. He's got AML leukemia now, so he's going through chemo and all that. And I said, I you know, cancer isn't what it was thirty years ago. I I think you're not gonna feel too good for a while, but I think you'll be survivor like I was. So, indeed, yes, I've been in remission since 2010 of APL leukemia,
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which is a blood cancer. That's great. That is great. So how how's your how's your personal journey shaped your voice as a writer and a speaker?
[00:38:55] Unknown:
Yeah. Well, I I was the first in my family more or less to become a Republican. Right? Now rhinos, c nose, you know, just conservative to name only. I often use that term. People don't think of it too. The sino is every bit of rhino
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as others. Republican be careful with that though because, you know, you you see cino, c I n o. It's people pronounce it chino.
[00:39:22] Unknown:
Yeah. You know, like like the pants. Yeah. It has nothing to do with amnesty. There you go. But, you know, Republicans aren't perfect, but the other side is getting more and more insane on a daily basis. So but I was the first to recognize back then that in the seventies, that was no longer the party of JFK. Yeah. I hate to break it to you. And I I agree. Was the first to become a Republican and brought more of my family than over. So I'd always been kind of a rebel and politically involved since '78 because my godfather was one of the last remaining supposed conservative Democrats.
He was, Thomas Coogan. You could see his name plastered all over buildings in Melvandale, Michigan where he was the mayor. So at an early age, I was introduced and involved in politics. And unlike others who are emotional hysterical snowflakes, I use my brain.
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Right? I apply logic. I apply reason. It's a novel idea, by the way.
[00:40:33] Unknown:
Yeah. Your what you say you're gonna do doesn't I don't care what you say you're gonna do. I judge you on your fruits. Shall be known by your fruits. If you say you're gonna do this, but you do that, you're a lying bastard.
[00:40:54] Unknown:
Or if you wanna be, like, if you wanna be more biblical than lying bastard, you could say hypocrite. I'll
[00:41:02] Unknown:
I'll I'll be a moral compass on this, Joe. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. You're getting a little more of my savage unfiltered
[00:41:09] Unknown:
I I love it. Guy that I love it. Like a constitutional society. This is probably one of the more this is probably one of the more lively conversations we've had in a little bit. So this is this is great. Although I I got it most of my shows are g rated.
[00:41:22] Unknown:
Constitutionist politics are g rated. I had one I labeled PG 13 the other day because we were talking about porn, but we tried to talk about it very carefully and the, you know, the dangers and problems that it brings to society. But I did write one rated r. I had the inventor of the game called Am I the Ass? Great game. It's like, you know, a survey type thing. Okay. And it's about moral values and how they're different between the generations and how they've changed over time. Like, one of the questions is, are you an ass for eloping when the family wants a church wedding?
Right? Well, you're trying to you're it depends on your perspective. A lot of these things aren't black and white. They're gray areas. Right? We don't wanna cost money. We you know? I love it. At any rate. I love it. Yeah. Am I the Ass is the name of that game. So, yeah, I rated that show rated r. But other than that, usually, I'm g on my show. But I can go x on Savaged Unfiltered.
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The the the signal's a little choppy right now, so I I kinda lost you for a quick second there. But, let's, let me let me do this. Hold on. Give me one second here. Live show, by the way, folks. Weeknights, 7PM central time. These are the joys This is why I don't do live normally. This is why I do live because it makes it better. It makes it it makes it more fun. It challenges your abilities to multitask, which I have none. But, but, how about this, Joe? How about if if you were if you were to look back and and you you came across the younger Joe. Right? What would you tell younger Joe before he got started? Don't get married. Right? Well, I agree with that. Yeah.
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I didn't get married till I was 36. My now ex wife was 23 at the time. So I, you know, I You hound. Had had always said that, you know, I I just hadn't found the right person. Right. And had I not gotten sick and lost my 6 figure salary IT job, I might still be married. But she was young, and, you know, that that whole in sickness and in health thing, it's like, well, she didn't really mean that part. You know? It's it's interesting because, you know, I
[00:43:58] Unknown:
I I understand what you're saying there because I I feel like today, the the the generations coming up, or at least the generation just a little bit before this one, didn't take things like marriage and responsibility to one another very seriously. It it it it was like a disposable type of relationship. They treated it just like if they met somebody at at the local pub and decided, yeah. We're gonna date for a while and you, you know Yeah. Hook ups. Yeah. Yeah. And then you just disappeared. Like, there's there's no commitment to it.
[00:44:30] Unknown:
Like a three year hookup, but then right. It's disposable. I go into that in a to a degree in in my sixth book coming in August, the book of Kennedy Project Carpe Diem, all about life and and living. But, yeah, I like to say, and I've said it on my Christianos politics show several times, it's like we've gone back to the sixties. If it feels good, do it. Right? It's me, me, me. I want it. Not now. Not tomorrow. You should have figured out I was gonna want it and give it to me yesterday. Yeah. That kind of attitude. But remember, the sixties flowers flower children eventually grow grew up and got wiser, and that led to the Jesus revolution.
Mhmm. They finally woke up that, you know, there has to be more than just me, me, me, my, my, my, and only in everything I want. And the Jesus revolution came, and I'm seeing a Jesus revolution part do or redo, redux happening now. Let the left keep pushing their immoral garbage. It's waking
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people from their woke stupor. I I agree with you on that a 100%. Let them eat themselves. Let them let them go as far left as they wanna go. They're only hurting themselves. The the Oh, this And the interesting thing too is is this generation is coming up now, Gen z, I guess it is, they're they're coming up more conservative than they have in the previous generation. A lot of them. Yeah. A lot of them are. Yes. And that's incredibly refreshing to see. You know, fresh young ideas and minds in the conservative movement are only gonna just continue to flower and just bring a lot of great things.
And, that's that's what we're that that that's where we're at at this point. It's that Jesus revolution
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greed too. Yeah. It really is. And this madman dummy running for New York mayor is you know? Again, please keep pushing. Again, we don't teach history. It's the new core r's, I call it. I go into this in my one of my politics books that correlates with the shows. There's two of those out. Right? The new core r's radicalism, raunch, and racism through CRT. They don't want to teach reading, writing, arithmetic, history. They don't understand the Bradford Colony failure and why we are a republic, not a mobocracy, ineptocracy, kleptocracy that the left keeps trying to peddle and madman dummy is you you think things are bad enough now in New York? You think things are bad in California?
If he's elected mayor, and he's got a good chance, New York City will be worse than San Francisco.
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I agree with you. And you know what? What I found very interesting about this is, and originally, I'm from New York. I I think I told you that. So, you know, of course, I'm I I pay attention to what's going on back home. Like, I still have my sisters up there, so I wanna make sure, you know, I'm on top of things with that. One of the interesting things though that I that that I saw there was how the Republican party of New York basically throws a towel in on this one. They sent out a they sent out an official message telling people to to to leave. Leaving Sliwa to the walls. Yeah. Exactly. Exactly. And, you know, that doesn't inspire a lot of hope and confidence that that that conservative ideas are gonna be ever introduced into the city of New York at least.
[00:48:23] Unknown:
But And areas of New York, again, too Yeah. Are becoming more red. Yes. They are. Again, it's the let the left keep pushing. They're pushing people towards the GOP. And, again, Republicans aren't perfect. No. A lot of rhinos and cynos, I want get rid of also who are too much like the leftards, that need to go too. But, you know,
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we may not be perfect, but we're not crazy like them at first. That's right. Now now a few minutes ago, you you threw a word out there called mobocracy. Alright? Now how do you define the difference between a republic and a mobocracy? And, again, why is that distinction so important, especially now?
[00:49:11] Unknown:
Oh, yeah. Our Christian ethos founders. And that's another thing that drives me crazy. You'll hear leftist try to say, well, you know, the original founders weren't really, you know, Christians, or they they weren't really religious. They may have been deists as if that's somehow really different. But, no, they were they were Christians. They they ran around saying, no king but king Jesus. Does that sound like a Buddhist to you? No. Okay. I mean
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right? Not at all.
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They understood again and learned from the Bradford Colony failures. Communism failed on this continent before Marx ever thought he drummed it up. And, they learned from it, and that's why we are a limited republic representative republic, not a mobocracy. They avoided democracy like the plague. That's right. That's like in my terror strikes coming soon to a city near you book. I was at a libertarian meeting one time, you know, peddling the book, and they said, I got quite does the word democracy appear in your book? I no. Not once Because we are not a mobocracy.
That's right. Our founders knew better that two wolves and a sheep voting what's for dinner doesn't work. That's right. Mobocracy, mob rule doesn't work, and we see it with the left in purple states, especially, trying to pull them more left with all these ballot initiatives. They're trying to peddle mobocracy, and, of course, they lie. Like in Michigan, the, we had an abortion ban bill that was in place since the late eighteen hundreds based on what? The fourteenth amendment. But the Dobbs decision, SCOTUS decided to ignore the fourteenth amendment and decided, oh, well, we'll look at this tenth amendment thing and return it to the states. Ignore the fourteenth amendment. But, yeah, they they tried to say, well, we're just codifying Roe.
No. That's not what it did. It overturned the abortion ban law that was in place and came back after, Roe was overturned and made abortion up to and even after birth. Mhmm. It eliminated statutory rape laws. It was a pedophilia law. Literally, a 40 year old male teacher can prey on a 13 year old female student without consequence because statutory rape went out in the name of sexual freedom. And yeah. Right?
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Well, we're we're coming up on the 08:00 hour. So I wanna get into something here with you really quickly before we, before we have to go. Your book, Terror Strikes Coming to a City Near You. Alright? It, it it brings together historical fiction, real world movies. I call it faction. Part fact, part fiction. Yes. Alright. What kind of feedback have you gotten from that, whether it's positive, controversial since that book came out? Well, of course, the left attacks me over it because
[00:52:40] Unknown:
the left has more in common with Al Qaeda and Hezbollah and Hamas and the Houthis and the Taliban even though they try to call us religious bigots and you purists and puritans. Those days are long gone. You know? They have more in common with the Taliban than we do. They hate America just like they do. So leftists, of course, attack me, attack the I have to have call blocker software because I get death threats. I see. Right? Because the left refuses to deal in reality. They attack us just like the left does because they hate Western culture.
They hate biblical community. They themselves want a communist dictatorial authoritarian government governance. They don't want you to have free will and choice. It's like the left only uses the word choice when it comes to killing babies. They're they don't you can't have choice in light bulbs or the food you get to eat or whatever. Choice is just a dodge to the left.
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Alright. So we we talked about some pretty heavy stuff tonight, so far. We didn't even get into half of what I really wanted to talk to you about. We spent more time laugh laughing, which was great. So we're definitely gonna have to have you come back on. You know what? In the terror strikes coming soon to a city near you book,
[00:54:12] Unknown:
even though I I like to say it's not about death and destruction. Mhmm. It's about life and living, like the book of Kennedy, which will be out in August, is about too. And there's a suicide prevention sub thread in it and all kinds of things. But there's a comic relief chapter. No matter how serious is the subject, you got to keep us into humor or we'll all go, woo hoo hoo. Absolutely.
[00:54:37] Unknown:
All in the brain. So let me ask you pain in the membrane. That's that's a good one. I'd like, man, I haven't heard that in a long time. A long time. Cypress Hills, man. That's that's good stuff. Yeah. That's good. Okay. So really quick, we're gonna do some rapid fire here. You ready? Alright. Favorite movie you quote way too often.
[00:54:57] Unknown:
Oh, well, my favorite movie of all time is The Thirteenth Floor. It's a Matrix film before the Keno Reeves Matrix Quadology ever was created. Roland Emmerich, my favorite director, who was also one of my other favorite movies, Stargate, the inventor of the Stargate Okay. System Independence Day, The Day After Tomorrow, but, no, he's not a climate tard. You know, it just makes a good story.
[00:55:27] Unknown:
Alright. UFOs, real threat, misunderstood technology, or just fun to debate? All of the yeah. Above in a way. Okay. I could I could I could agree with that. Best you're in Michigan. So your best Detroit memory or must see spot for anybody that visits?
[00:55:50] Unknown:
Greenfield Village, without a doubt. Henry Ford Greenfield Village in Dearborn, Michigan, suburb of Detroit, the Ford family of, you know, the Ford Automotive, crazy. They brought a bunch of old buildings from Edison's Lab is there.
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Nice. Nice. Nice. Alright. Who's someone that you deeply respect right now, and what are they doing that we should be paying attention to?
[00:56:15] Unknown:
Leo Terrell, which, again, proves the difference between a classical liberal who you can red pill and a left hand who you cannot get to engage in logic or reason no matter how hard you try.
[00:56:31] Unknown:
Leo Turell. I I I do actually like Leo Turell. So, I agree with you on that. That Jeff Jeff Andrew was another
[00:56:38] Unknown:
former democrat, became republican. Right? I don't agree with him. The black mayor of Dallas, was a democrat, became a republican. There's more and more of that. Again, classical liberals who you can reach as opposed to as Dennis Prager sent me straight out, a leftist ideologue
[00:56:59] Unknown:
who you will never reach. I agree. Alright. Last one. If you could speak one sentence into the minds of everyone that's listening and watching right now, what would it be?
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The whole bible in full context.
[00:57:13] Unknown:
Great. I love it. That is fantastic. Alright, Joseph. Where can the audience go to learn more about you, your books, the podcast, upcoming projects?
[00:57:22] Unknown:
Thank you. The proverbial pun intended. Proverbs. Proverbial. Last question. Right? There you go. Joseph m Leonard. Again, it's not French. It's not Leonard. There is a Joseph Leonard in South Carolina who's also a Christian author. I am Joseph m Leonard, Leonard without an o. Joseph m leonard dot u s. Terrorstrikes.info is the the book site. Amazon, of course, all that stuff.
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Alright. Well, Joseph m Leonard, thank you. We are gonna have to have you come on again because there's a lot of stuff I still wanted to talk to you about, discuss you about your books. So, we'll, we'll put you in contact with our producer, anonymous Angela, and we'll get you scheduled, to come on back very, very soon. Alright, folks. Joseph. I had a blast. I am so glad you did, brother. That was great. And so did I. It was it was, like I said, probably the most lively,
[00:58:21] Unknown:
guest segment we've had in a while. So this was fantastic. You you you got both you got both my split personality. You've got my g rated Christitutional side, and you got my raging
[00:58:32] Unknown:
Joe Savage and Children's side. That's awesome, brother. Thank you so much. Joseph m Leonard, folks. Take care, bro. God bless. You too, my friend. Take care now. Alright, folks. Well, that, that was Joseph m Leonard. So make sure you check him out. We'll have all of his contact information in the show notes, so, you'll be able to reach out to him. Alright. So, we are gonna take a short break here, maybe two to two to three minutes. And, I need to go use the restroom, and I need to get some more coffee. And, our guest, our next guest, Ken Stone is waiting Kevin Stone, I'm sorry, is waiting for us in the, in the pervert in the virtual green room. So we'll, we'll be back with him in just a moment. So folks, this is the Joe Russo. It is a live show weeknights 7PM central time, 8PM eastern time. Had to think for a second. A little frozen. Sorry.
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Stay with us. Alrighty. Well, the first hour is done. Let's get that banner turned off, folks. Thank you. First hour in the books. Hour number two coming your way. This is Joe Ruse. Welcome to the Joe Ruse Show, part two for tonight. We're gonna have a a really interesting conversation. I hope you guys enjoyed Joe there. We had a great conversation, it was a lot of fun. And, he's a little bit of a wild man. Probably the more lively guest that we've had in the last couple of weeks, but that was great. Really enjoyed that. And, wasn't sure what to expect, and I sure wasn't surprised either.
But, we are here second hour on a beautiful Friday evening here in Eagle Pass, Texas, and it is, what is it? 98 degrees outside right now at, 08:05PM central time. And, it is a balmy 82 degrees here at the studio with all the fans and ECs running and all that great stuff. Gotta love living in Texas. Gotta love it. Alright. Well, folks, we are gonna go deep, and we're gonna ask some really good questions. I hope good questions in the second hour, and, hope you guys are ready for something a little bit different, something a little mind bending, you might say.
Tonight's guest is recognized as one of the most powerful voices in the world of hypnosis. He's known across more than 40 countries as a master hypnotist, a board certified hypnotherapist, and a best selling author. His title? The Hollywood Hypnotist. Kevin Stone is the go to hypnotherapist for world leaders, top tier athletes, business executives, and celebrities. If you ever flip through People magazine or watch porn stars, not porn, porn stars, or tuned into the Tyra Banks show, you've probably seen his work. He's been featured on ABC, Fox, CBS, NBC, and just about every other major platform, and he's here with us on his little itty bitty show broadcasting live across Rumble.
And what does he do is he guides people to overcome smoking, stress, anxiety, weight issues, and more with a track record of over a million lives changed. He's open for the band Starship. He's consulted for global leaders. He's helped clients unlock success that they didn't even know was possible. So tonight, we're gonna ask, is hypnosis a gimmick, a tool, a science, or spiritual connection to something deeper in ourselves? Let's go find out. Kevin Stone, welcome to the Joe Russo. Glad to have you here. Joe, how are you? I am great. Thanks for having me on. No problem. Even the whole audience got to see you there sipping your soda.
That's that's a That's a good joke. Yeah. It was I hope so. It looked it looked good. I I actually went to get Yeah. I went to get some of my, my $17.75 coffee, got it needed a refill. And I was thinking about, I was thinking about refilling. Oh, you weren't you didn't see the the first part of the show, I guess. I have my my ultra methylene blue. I was thinking about going in a refill on that one, but I decided against that. I think it's too much. So little little little too relaxed here tonight. So, alright. Well, Kevin, thank you so much for being here with us tonight.
This is great. You know, I I you know, when when when we saw you come up on on our our schedule here, I was like, wow. I I know that name. Where do I know that name from? So I I did some research on you, and wow. I'm really impressed. And again, I appreciate you being here with us tonight. So Absolutely. So let me I usually start off with a couple of, of, softball questions. You know, I'll get you warmed up in the bullpen here. Alright? So, what's Fire away, Joe. Fire away. What's something most people don't know about you but should?
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Wow. There's so much. I mean, you know, I've been doing this for over thirty years. And so I've, you know, life is amazing, and I I love to have the experience of just living life and what God provides. And so for me, every day is a different day, and, I've had incredible life experiences, incredible blessings in my life, to see things that most people can't see or experience. So to really put that into context is very, very difficult. I gotcha. Especially on the spot because I've never really thought about that because
[01:08:51] Unknown:
That's what we did. Was an right now is an amazing experience, Joe. Oh, well, thank you. Appreciate that. Like, I turned I turned all red. Look at that. How nice.
[01:09:00] Unknown:
You really did? Makeup. Makeup.
[01:09:05] Unknown:
Alright. How about this? Maybe this is a little bit better. What's your go to beverage to unwind at the end of the day?
[01:09:12] Unknown:
None. I try to stay away from all beverages after 6PM because, I'm a little older, so I don't feel like getting up three, four times in the middle of the night interrupting my sleep pattern. And, those who are watching and or listening
[01:09:27] Unknown:
certainly appreciate what I'm saying right now. Oh, I do too. You know, I, you know, I I sometimes I kinda regret, you know, having the having the the coffee and the the the methylene blue, but I'm also a bourbon guy. So so usually at the end of the day, I like to I got like a little bit of bourbon. Not all not I haven't not as bad as I used to be with it, but, you know, it's it's gotten a lot better.
[01:09:48] Unknown:
I kinda know where you're going with that, but no. I don't I don't drink alcohol. Never, even in college, never did, participated in alcohol or any of those traditional, things that one does. And so I just never really it's not like I haven't tried it, but I just never really acquired a taste or didn't really appreciate the feeling of being out of control over something, especially with alcohol. Because alcohol, what most people don't understand is a depressant. Mhmm. And it really doesn't fuel the physical body or the mind. And so for me, I just never really acquired a taste and never really,
[01:10:27] Unknown:
felt that it was, beneficial to me in any way. Yeah. I just love the taste of it, and I love to I love to, kinda pair it up with a nice cigar. You know? So it's it's nice. Absolutely.
[01:10:36] Unknown:
Absolutely.
[01:10:37] Unknown:
Taste their own as far as Of course. Absolutely. Yes. Whatever makes you happy. Whatever like what I said, whatever floats your boat, you know. Yeah. That's the way it is. Exactly. So Kevin, how did you get into, hypnosis? Like, was there a light bulb moment for you that that just popped up? No.
[01:10:52] Unknown:
Absolutely not. For me, again, I think once you understand your purpose in life and to find your purpose, you have to seek God. God will give you that information.
[01:11:05] Unknown:
I agree. And so
[01:11:07] Unknown:
I was seeking my purpose as a young man because my thoughts and what I thought I was in control of, that I was going to school to be a news anchor. And that was my ultimate goal, to be, on the, you know, 06:00 news on your local TV, and hit the big markets like New York or Los Angeles. And that was kind of the path I had set for myself when I started when I left high school, went into college, and I got into radio because that was the back in the day, now it's a whole different ballgame with these podcasts and all these things that people do. But back in the day, the stepping stone or the the door to get in was radio. So I was working the number one radio station on the East Coast, and it was a job opportunity that opened up here on the West Coast.
And so, of course, I followed that because, Los Angeles was my target market. So I thought, okay. I'm gonna get a introductory, level job, and work my way up to get into the bigger market of, news casting, and that was the goal. So I was in between jobs because back in those days, radio was called a revolving door of radio. And what what happened is is that if the station well, there was rating books that came in every quarter. Mhmm. And if those rating books were not sufficient to the company, well, they cleaned house. It didn't matter who you were. They cleaned house. So I was one of the ones who got cleaned out, not because of my performance, not ratings, not because of anything. It was just semantics and how they did it.
So anytime I'm in between anything, I always go back to academia because I have this incredible sensation, this appetite to learn, understand different things in life. Mhmm. So I had always had an interest in hypnosis as a boy, but it was never something that I followed or entertained because I would read the comic books and see, oh, do hypnosis in the back of the cover and all these kind of things. I thought very, very interesting. Of course, to a 12 year old boy, it was absolutely fascinating. Yeah. Sure. But never really, took the steps to do that because in my environment, I grew up, in a very, Catholic home. So all of this back in those days and even today, the stigma is still there.
But the stigma is is that this is taboo. It's the work of, the cults. It's the devil's work. All Right. Yeah. Everything everyone thinking is what what people think this is. And, of course, I I grew up in that environment. And so it was never encouraged and or I never never really got past the comic book until I got to LA. There was a college here in LA, the only accredited colleges in the world that taught hypnosis. And I thought, okay. I'm in between jobs. I'm I'm looking for a job. I'm gonna go back to school. I always had an interest in this when I was a boy. Right. And it kept it kept getting my attention. It kept getting my attention. Again, when God when God speaks, you know, you're gonna you're gonna know. And so and, yeah, don't be like Jonah. Follow what he's trying to say to you. So I enrolled in the program Mhmm. Thinking, okay. I'm just gonna take the basic one on one, and then I'll be back at another job, and I'll be on my way.
Well, that just turned into not just the basic one zero one. I ended up signing up for the whole two year program. I ended up becoming an instructor, for five years. I opened up a private practice, right here in Los Angeles, and the rest was history. My the word got out about my technique, about what I do. And in the entertainment industry, just like radio or most most industries, it's a very small community, and the word get out pretty quickly about my work, what I do, and the people I work with, and my technique. So that turned into what it is today, thirty years later, becoming the guy. Right?
The guy who can help people, guide people to where they need to go because of my passion and what I I'm really passionate about how to what God has gifted me to do to basically help people to help themselves. So there's the line that's Yeah. No. That's great. Question. Yeah. No. That's great. That's how that's how it all started. That's how I really got into this, and it was really my path because I really sat down. And I really, there was a point in time about ten years ago where I thought God was gonna lead me in a different direction. And I ended up going to seminary because I felt he wanted me to become a pastor at this point, and I'm riding the the high peak of of what I'm doing at that time. Right. Right? I I'm I'm becoming that guy globally, the world.
People are seeking me out, and I and I really sat down and I said, you know, what is it that you really want me to do? Because I'm not really feeling this. I'm not really feeling passionate as I was. You You know? What what do I need to do? So I put all of that aside, and I went to seminary to become a pastor. Completed that, and I thought I was on my way to become a local pastor and to head head to church. Mhmm. Well, God started closing those doors and said, no. I think that what you're better doing your ministry is gonna be is what you're doing. You're able to reach more people. You've already got this following. You've got you've built this for all these years, and so this is what we're gonna do. And, of course, I said no.
No. I think I'm done. This is what I wanna do. I just wanna focus on the church. I wanna build a community. I wanna build a body. And he kept saying no. And so I felt like Jonah at that point, and I said to myself, okay. I'm gonna be obedient, and I did. And then that opened up incredible doors Sure. Where now it's become, so incredibly massive about the work that I do and everything. And I'm not resistant anymore, but I still have questions because, again, I did all that training. I went through the whole process, and I'm still, not quite clear as to what direction he wants to use me for in that area. But I do know that the work I'm I'm basically doing the same thing. I'm helping people to help themselves. I guide people, and I'm I'm able to help them to really focus their mind on the things that they need to focus on so they can get past their limited belief systems, not only spiritual spiritually, but whatever it is that's blocking them in life because we're so influenced by everything that we see every single day.
And so it's important to stay focused.
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And what do you think what do you think the biggest misconception people have about how the human mind works and how and how, hypnosis fits into that?
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Yeah. The biggest misconception is, again, is what people don't even think or they because, again, hypnosis is a very natural organic state. We go in and out of hypnosis about a thousand times a day. So natural state it truly is. So we're being programmed all day long. And, again, if you really get into scripture and, again, I don't really emphasize too much about again, I don't wanna get people a wrong impression that I'm talking a lot about God and everything, but you have to understand my path, my journey of what put me here and why I'm here, and I understand that completely. So I'm gonna definitely share that at every opportunity that I can. So the point is is that we're being programmed all day long, and it's important to stay focused on the prize.
Right? It's important to stay focused on the things that really, really matter and not the external things of life and all the temptations of what's going on in life. And so that's what I think a lot of the misconception is because a lot of people don't really understand. They really are sheep, and they're just following with the trend. They're following along with what is happening I agree with you. Yeah. In their presence, and and they need to understand why they're doing that.
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That's a great point. I I agree with you. I think, you know, people do just follow trends. And I I also I was kinda wondering as you were talking, like, one of the things that that when I was growing up, they they used to always tell me that when I was in school as a kid, I would drift off and daydream. Is would would that be considered a type of, like, a a hypnosis or something? 100%.
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That's the natural state that people don't understand that what we go through daily. Watching a good movie, reading a good book. You're up on the highway freeway. You're driving along. You miss your exit somewhere. It's three exits back somewhere. Drifting off and sitting in in a classroom, not paying attention to the teacher. These are all a trance like state. That's the true hypnotic state. Right? Karate, childbirth, all of these things. When you're focused not on the on what is in front of you, but what is happening and you kinda drift off and have that daydream Right. State like you just described,
[01:20:37] Unknown:
that's what a true hypnotic state is. So do you see how natural of a state it really is and how we go in and out of it about a thousand times a day? Sure. Yeah. I I can think of a few times just in the course of my day today that I kinda caught myself drifting off some place, you know, when I was I was actually working, I have a regular job, I think I'd mentioned earlier. And I was actually working on something, and I hadn't even realized how much time I'd spent working on the thing. I was just doing it and going through my thing and step by step. And before I knew it, it was I was on this project for more than forty minutes, and I was like, wow, I just feel like I just started this thing. And, that's I think it's something to do like that as well. They just Absolutely. So, in in your experience though, what's the number one reason people kinda get stuck in in their lives, and and how do you get them unstuck or help them get unstuck?
[01:21:27] Unknown:
Well, it's programming. It's conditioning. It's a lot of the things that we take from our family history. Right? And it's handed generation to generation to generation because that's how my father did. That's how my mother did. So that's gonna do it. And then you grow up, and then you have these same belief systems that you think, okay. This is what it be, and you don't even think about making your own choices. You just kinda go with the rhythm, kinda go with the flow because that's the safe zone. That's the path of least resistance. And that's as as humans, we're all conditioned to wanna take the path of least resistance. This is why we have instant, you know, again, everything is instant in our lives. Right. Seven eleven. There's everything is I I can order something and have from Amazon, have it in my house within a couple of hours.
It's mind boggling how everything now is so instant. So we we grow to take things for granted, and we don't really we don't really digest them. We don't really think about them and how it works and why it works for us. And so these become blocks because then there's expectation that comes with that that one doesn't even really think about because they think it should happen because this is what's been happening. That's how they're trained to do that. So they don't think outside the box. They don't they don't really go outside the box because there's a lot of fear. There's a lot of Mhmm. Again, knowledge is power. The more you understand, the more you you really
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see it, then you realize you're the one who's really in control. That's called free will. Right? That's right. That's good. That's good. Now you deal with a lot of challenges, like like deep root challenges, addiction, anxiety, weight, trauma. Right. How how fast can can a transformation really happen through hypnotherapy?
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It depends on the individual. Everything's individualistic, so it depends on the person. And if they're really understanding and open to what this really is, because once they get past the cynicism, once they get past the stigma, once they get past the all those things that were created by our society and still were there because, again, I get this every single day, and every almost every single person that I treat, you know, they have these misconceptions about what they've just seen in the movies or, you you know, it's just not what that is. But what ends up happening is, if they just allow the process to work because they're doing it already, all I am is a guide.
[01:23:55] Unknown:
I see. I'm not a magician. I'm not putting any voodoo dust on you and and and curing the process. Doesn't work that way. That's it. Yeah. That's interesting. So there is that stigma that people tend to look at at hypnosis and hypnotherapy as come some kind of a, like a like a faux science. It's a it's it's it's just smoke and mirrors. It's it's a game. It's not real. It's all fake. It's, you know, but the truth of the matter is it does work. And I know from experience, not from my personal experience myself, but my dad actually went through hypnotherapy, many years ago. He he he's with the Lord now, but, to to help him with his smoking problem, to quit smoking. And he went to he went through hypnotherapy, and you know it it worked. And it was really it was fascinating to watch the whole
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Hide in the background. No. You're good. You're fine. I'm not here. Nothing
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Comments from the peanut gallery. I should never pass on the stupid puns. No. No. You can't. You got you gotta let them go. You gotta you gotta let them fly. Alright. Well, we have a packed show for you tonight folks. Our first guest is already here with us, he's hanging out here in the wings. And then, we have, we have a second hour guest that'll be coming up, at probably about the 08:05 hour or so. So we'll let you know, when he checks in. Alright. But with us right now is Joseph m Leonard. I had to make sure we said that correctly because there is, someone else out there with the same name, but just pronounced slightly different.
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Yeah. No. Yeah. Exactly. I am Joseph m Leonard. It looks French. It's not Leonard. It's it was Leonard Owaskovitski or something. I haven't dug back enough in the family tree to find out what the original Polish was, but, yeah, Leonard without an o. But there is a Joseph Leonard out of South Carolina. I'm in Michigan. And we're both Christian authors. Well, that explains a lot. I am not he. He is not me, and neither of us are Shakespeare.
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Well, well, our Joseph m Leonard is the mind behind the term Christitutionalist. That's a blend of faith and, constitutional conservatism that fuels his books, his podcast, and his nationwide speaking. He's also the author of multiple works including an Amazon bestseller, Terror Strikes coming soon to a city near you, which is really a hard hitting fact fiction thriller based on historical realities, as well as a practical, as well as practical guides like how to write a book and, and get it published, and podcasting, a quick a quick start guide. Joseph brings his message to over 15 social platforms, podcasts like Savage Unfiltered, and countless interviews across the country. And whether he's talking about government overreach, mental health, tech, or UFOs, you can count on him to bring both fire and facts to the table. Joe, I'm excited to have you here on the show tonight. Thank you so much for being with us this evening.
Just wanna kinda jump right into this here with just a few simple little warm up questions, you know, kinda get loose Alright. You know, in the bullpen kinda thing. So, what what what's one thing that most people don't know about you that you're willing to talk about?
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Well, that's a short list. Yeah. No. That's a good question. I mean, I, something I don't normally like to talk about, but I feel I must talk about. I'm on various shows talking about mental health issues. I'm a suicide attempt survivor, 02/2004, still here. You know? You don't know what tomorrow will bring until you carpe diem. In fact, my sixth international book is going to drop in the next few days, Amazon exclusive, The book of Kennedy, Project Carpe Diem is the subtitle. And it's indeed all about that life and living and all life, every life has value and meaning.
Whether you see it or not is you know, it's not it's a wonderful life on TV. Right? Mhmm. You're not gonna get Clarence come down and show you your overly dramatic life. Most of our lives aren't overly dramatic, but little things add up and matter. I call it the and I go into this into the in the book of Kennedy that'll be dropping. The Pantene shampoo effect. I had, cancer in 2010 also. So leukemia, hence, the lack of the hairdo. When the chemo caused it to come out, I decided I'm gonna shave a ton on shampoo and conditioner and just shave it. So And and hair dye. But the yeah. Yeah. The Pantene effect. Right? Remember that ad? They tell two friends, they they tell two friends, they they tell you know, pretty soon you've got a movement. Right? A smile you give someone, even if forced, is that having a bad day, then may turn around and force a smile to someone else who's contemplating suicide. Mhmm. And that one small thing churns their day around. And maybe they go on later to have a child who will cure cancer. Mhmm. It's the butterfly effect.
That little smile you think nothing about flaps its wings and causes the tsunami across the world.
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Well, that's great, Joe. That that's that's really good.
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I don't think that's really good. I'm not happy to talk about that. No. That's fine. You know? It's fine. I I'm I'm here for a reason, and you are too. So I feel
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guilty to say that. I totally agree with you because I I I've I've told the audience this before, and and I've actually hosted a show about this, is, like yourself, I am a suicide survivor as well. So, Had no idea. No? No idea when I started sharing that. There you go. So that and that's just the way the Holy Spirit works. Sometimes he brings it into that type of fellowship, so that's a great thing. Alright. End of the day, what what do you like to drink to relax and unwind?
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Well, it's seeing me sipping on this, the the glass looks rather brown because a chocolate Coke. Most people think of vanilla Coke or a cherry Coke, a glass of Coke with some Hershey's syrup, slowly, carefully poured in and slowly, carefully mixed so it doesn't fizz all over the place.
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Love chocolate Cokes. I think you I think you might need to slow down on the sugar on that though, bud. You might be better off with some of the ultra blue meth methylene blue here. They'll Yeah. They'll give you that energy boost without that without the crash.
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Well, I get these little bursts of energy. That's another thing people don't know about me because it's not you know, you mentioned Savage Dunfiltr. I'm a k a Ragin' Joe and Patrick.
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From. I was wondering because I saw I see it on the bottom of the screen on your name there, and I was wondering where that came from. Yeah. A Jay Leonard Detroit. Joseph m Leonard AKA Jay Leonard Detroit because I'm in a Detroit suburb Okay.
[00:19:01] Unknown:
AKA Ragin' Joe and Jokester Joe on Savage Unfiltered. And, yeah, people think I'm this Energizer Bunny all the and that couldn't be the furthest. I'm on disability. I've been on disability since 02/2004. Okay. After a show, I need an app. I'm good for these bursts of energy, but then, no. I'm out. Time for an app. Kinda wears you out. Right?
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I get you. I get you. Well, my not that you asked, but my go my go to, at the end of the day is usually a bourbon. So, I I love my bourbons, and the good bourbon, a good cigar, and, you know, good woman on the side there is great. You know, this is kinda I have a friend on Wham Radio out of Ann Arbor, Michigan here.
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He's he used to do a show, what used to be called Bourbon on the Rocks.
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Okay. You know, actually, I thought about doing a show like that at one point. I was doing a cigars cigar and bourbon thing. You know?
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But Exactly right. And that's what it was. But you see woman, friends sitting around drinking bourbon, smoking on stogies and Yeah. But you see having conversation.
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My studio is is not equipped with the kind of ventilation you need for that, so
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we we probably all smoke each other out very quickly. Do if you're at Red State. I used to write for Red State years ago. I'm not there anymore. I write on the Forbes News, the Liberty Beacon, Substack, Blogspot, but I used to be with Red State for a while. Thomas LaDuke still writes for Red State. Yeah. I read Red State. Over Yeah. Duke over America now, but, yeah, he used to do Bourbon on the Rocks. Yeah. That's that's that'd be a good idea, you know, but, yeah, you know what it is. It's
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don't have the abilities to do that right now, but I'll I'll I'll enjoy that in my in my private time. But, and so I wanna get into this with you here, because this is really interesting. I'd never heard this before. A Christi No. You haven't. A Christiutionalist. So why don't you break that down for us? What does that term actually mean? You haven't heard it before because I invented it. Hey. Listen. Wait. Hold hold hold on. Let let me just back up one second. Alright. You're you're you're a Christian man? Yes. Alright. Well well, don't you remember what Solomon said? There is nothing new under the sun. If so if so, if you thought of it someone before, you thought of it first.
Probably. But I have it trademarked. But you trademarked it. That's it. Yes.
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Christian based US constitutionalism. Our Judeo Christian ethos foundations. Biblical community, which is free will and charity. We are to want to be our brother's keeper, but also the Bible clearly makes a distinction between those who are unable to do and those who are unwilling. I have no I am not duty bound to help anyone who is unwilling to do anything for themselves, but those who are unable and as I said, I'm on disability myself
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Mhmm.
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Versus worldly bastardized biblical community communism, which is by force and theft. You don't have free will. You have no choice. You do what they tell you. You give them what they tell you you owe them so they can give it to unwilling people to buy votes with. Kinda like the IRS. Yeah. Yeah.
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Well, taxation is theft. Yes. Yes, it is. I I'm I love this man. I I love this man. I I did a I did a whole rant about two weeks ago about how taxation is theft and property taxes are immoral.
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You know, I, you know, I I'm on disability now, and I'm in my sixties, obviously. So, I'm obviously more against property taxes than I was, but I always had been. Even in my twenties, I recognized you can't be kicking people out of their homes who own them supposedly free and clear, but, no. Really, we're all renters. That's right. This Yeah. You owe the the city. You owe the county. You owe the state. You're renting that property. No. Seniors should not out of their homes. Property taxes are the most immoral of all the taxes. Preach it, man. But, yeah, back to Christianist, Dennis Prager set me straight on something. You know, as a Christian, I recognize I'm human. I'm frail. I'm flawed and imperfect, And I get things wrong from time to time. I have a meme I like to share. It says, you can lead a liberal to the facts, but you can't make them think. Right? Kinda like the horse to water and you can't make them drink, think.
But that's wrong. Classical liberals, and Dennis set me straight on this, aren't the same as leftists. You can lead us to the facts, but you can. A classical liberal, you can red pill like a Brandon Straka or a Candace Owens or a Leo Turrell who all red pill. They were classical liberals. And I make the distinction, like I said, taxation is theft. The usual libertarian line. That's the libertarian streak. But today, most in that party are liberaltarians, not libertarians anymore. They're very social leftists.
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Right. Yes. I agree. See, I I actually call myself a conservatarian.
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I I I wrote on the before it's new about what is a conservatarian.
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I wrote that, like, five years ago. You see? Exactly. That's my point. I thought I came up with something on my own, and here's somebody who did it already. You see that? You see? Yeah. I I just proved, we just proved, and in, like, ten seconds that the Bible is true. Yeah. Yeah. But neither of us mark that, so we're both screwed. Well, basically, yeah. True true to that. True to that. So I I think we should go and and probably investigate it to see if it it has been trademarked. If it hasn't Or not. We better we better do it soon.
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Exactly. Because that came up on Gab, one of the 15 plus social media platforms I'm on. On Gab, one person said asked, is there such a thing as a conservatarian? Right? Cross between a conservative and a libertarian. And, yeah, a a real libertarian and a real conservative are pretty much the same thing. But I invented Christianist because conservative, liberal, left, right Yeah. Progressive, conserve these have all got such knee jerk negative connotations to them now. They do. Yes. So I thought, okay, Christiutionos. You're either a real Christian rooted in the whole Bible, not one of these Kumbaya, my lord, around the campfire Jesus version only.
You can't leave out the tough love parts of the Bible. No. If you pick and choose, you're not a real Christian. You're a Matthew 23. Fake fraud, viper, snake, false guide that Jesus told us about. It's the whole Bible in whole in full context. You're either a real Christian or you're a fraud, hence, Christianist. Yeah. Because, again, most people don't most people know the Mayflower Compact. Right. But that's all they know. They don't understand it was a communist compact. Before Marx ever came along, Marxism, socialism, communism failed here.
They almost all started death in the Bradford Colony. That's right. And in turn, he pivoted away from communism, the com commie compact, and instituted private property, individual rights versus collectivism. And the rest, as they say, is history. The United States, our founders learned biblical community works, worldly communism does not, and we became the greatest, most prosperous, and free nation on the planet because of it. Amen. Amen.
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Now one one of the things you you talked about, you know, embracing the love of God and they don't or or that God is love, but they don't look at the other aspects of God. God is holy. And because God is holy, you have to also take into consideration the other attributes. God is holy, God is a God of judgment, and he's a God of love. Of course. Absolutely. But people don't wanna know about the God of judgment. They only wanna talk about the God that's love.
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Kumbaya. Let's sing around the campfire, everybody. Right? The point. And pretend that other stuff doesn't exist. Exactly. That's exactly right. That he's the same Jesus that overturned the money changer tables. He's the same Jesus that says, go forth. Yes. I forgive you, but go forth and sin no more now. That's right. Do better. Be better. I want better for you. I I understand, but I want better for you. Not just I can continue to sin as much as I want and pretend I will always be forgiven. There are red lines in the Bible that you cannot cross. That's right. And I say on Christian politics all the time, Matthew seven is really condemn not lest ye be condemned in the original Aramaic, Greek, Latin, and Hebrew because there are a dozen plus other scriptures.
Again, those tough both parts that tell you to judge, including remove the log from thine own eye. That's right. We are to judge. We are. The Bible tells us if you actually read the thing.
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The apostle Paul even said, you know, that that he that is spiritual judgeth all things. So you you you're supposed to judge, but you're supposed to do it in a way that that's, that But not condemned. Not pointing that that finger of condemnation at somebody.
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Right. Final judgment is for that of the Lord. Exactly. We are to judge, and we are to condemn to a degree the death penalty. I it drives me insane, the number of Christians. Oh, I'm against the death penalty because of the Bible. You didn't read Genesis, Numbers, and Leviticus then. Is the Old Testament no longer relevant? I get a lot of antisemitic Christians. Right? Mhmm. Jesus was born a Jew, raised a Jew, became a rabbi at 30 under Jewish law and tradition, the king of the Jews. My savior is a Jewish man. That's right. But antisemites like to say, oh, he replaced the old no. Jesus never he said I am here to fulfill the scriptures, not replace them and the prophets.
So you say the Old Testament doesn't matter. So,
[00:30:59] Unknown:
the commandments don't mean anything anymore then? Yeah. That's right. That's right. Gotta pay a bill, brother. Hold on. Folks. If you still haven't tried seventeen seventy five coffee, why haven't you tried it? Now's the time to do it. The seventeen seventy five starter kit just dropped in only a thousand units. You're getting the bold dark roast that hits harder than a CNN fact check, the smooth medium roast, and the vitality mushroom coffee for a clean energy and laser focus with no crash. All single to origin, small batch, toxin free, mold free, roach free. Plus, you're also getting a gold spoon clip because freedom isn't scooped with plastic.
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Okay. Yeah. I didn't know if you wanted me to go dark there or not. No. No. No. It's it's to Vicks inhaler, people. It's not cocaine. It's a Vicks inhaler. One of my many
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health issues while I'm on disability. Whatever float whatever floats your boat, brother. Yeah.
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Sinus problem.
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That's alright. I apologize for the crashing. I don't know. I think it's the I think it's the the reeds that are popping up that are causing a crash. So I we're we're we're gonna refrain from any more at this point. So so, so so, Joe, your your work spans politics, publishing, podcasting, and even get into a little bit of UFO chatter.
[00:33:30] Unknown:
Yes. What topic? Been on the Ireland, UFO Society. I've been on their show a couple of times. Alright. But but Because the Bible, exclusion does not mean preclusion, or exclusion does not mean preclusion or preclusion does not mean exclusion, however you wish to say that. The Bible does not say, and God created man and only God and only man was created on earth and nothing, nowhere else. It doesn't say that. In fact, it says the Nephilim. In fact, it if you read Enoch and Ezekiel, there are other creatures. God can explain aliens.
Aliens can't explain God. So if a UFO or several and 10 different type of creatures put on the White House lawn on live TV, as the joke goes. My faith isn't disrupted because I haven't had this silly notion of God only created man, and man is all he and then the animals on the earth is all he created. In fact, it says, and each was created to its kind, which tells you the kind already existed before the animals and we on this earth were created.
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Are you done?
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Well, you can you tell you touched a nerve? I thought Just a little bit. I I was gonna oh, oh, I didn't know what either leave things out of the Bible or try to search shit in there that isn't there sets me off.
[00:35:13] Unknown:
I love it. You got a little raging Joe from 07:30. That's that's good. I I just love how you put shit and bible in the same sentence. Oh, Joe, all I wanted to know was all about the politics publishing podcasting you have. What ties all of that together? Well, that I I didn't I just kinda put it in the In a way, yeah. But that I I I was expecting something else. Alright. But let's get serious for a second though. Just just for a second. Alright?
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Oh, that's serious.
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No. I I mean I mean serious. You know what I'm saying, John. You you've overcome cancer.
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Alright? Yeah. Yeah. Hence the life of the hairdo. Yes. Yeah. You you you've launched multiple books. You carved out
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a a really and actually a very a bold political voice. Was there a moment that that shifted your path from, you know, regular Joe to raging Joe?
[00:36:08] Unknown:
No. That's always been you know, that's another thing that bothers me is, Michael, AKA Savaged from Savage Stemfilter, has said a friend of his says, you know, that Joe is kind of a conundrum. He's a he's he's got that g rated Christian show, but on Savaged Unfiltered, boy, does he let some stuff fly. That's because we are more than we're not schizophrenic. There's not voices in my head, but we are different pieces of different personalities. Yes. That's part of being human. Right? And I let my more wild side out on Savaged Unfiltered and on my show. I and like you said, I put shit in in Bible in the same sentence. You know? Right? That's part of being a natural normal human. I you know, I'm not a pretentious asshole or as I call them, the mass holes, the masses of asses. Or liberals. There's a bunch of mass holes out here who are so uptight and think everything evolves and revolves the whole planet around them, like the rush, not the not Limbaugh, but the rock group. Right? We are merely players, performers, and portrayers, each another's audience just like the gilded stage.
Right? That that is indeed true. But some people think they are the the primary cast and everybody else's ancillary, bit players.
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I'm trying to I I had I had I had a comment for that, and I I I it just literally flipped out of my mind. So I'm just gonna want to to the next question that I had for you, and that was, you know Well, no. They are the cancer. Yeah. I had APL leukemia.
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In fact, I've got a friend, Ed Bondarenka, who does your American Heritage WAM radio. Second time I'm mentioning them now. Out of Ann Arbor Ray, Ann Arbor, Michigan, WAM radio, he does your American heritage. He's got AML leukemia now, so he's going through chemo and all that. And I said, I you know, cancer isn't what it was thirty years ago. I I think you're not gonna feel too good for a while, but I think you'll be survivor like I was. So, indeed, yes, I've been in remission since 2010 of APL leukemia,
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which is a blood cancer. That's great. That is great. So how how's your how's your personal journey shaped your voice as a writer and a speaker?
[00:38:55] Unknown:
Yeah. Well, I I was the first in my family more or less to become a Republican. Right? Now rhinos, c nose, you know, just conservative to name only. I often use that term. People don't think of it too. The sino is every bit of rhino
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as others. Republican be careful with that though because, you know, you you see cino, c I n o. It's people pronounce it chino.
[00:39:22] Unknown:
Yeah. You know, like like the pants. Yeah. It has nothing to do with amnesty. There you go. But, you know, Republicans aren't perfect, but the other side is getting more and more insane on a daily basis. So but I was the first to recognize back then that in the seventies, that was no longer the party of JFK. Yeah. I hate to break it to you. And I I agree. Was the first to become a Republican and brought more of my family than over. So I'd always been kind of a rebel and politically involved since '78 because my godfather was one of the last remaining supposed conservative Democrats.
He was, Thomas Coogan. You could see his name plastered all over buildings in Melvandale, Michigan where he was the mayor. So at an early age, I was introduced and involved in politics. And unlike others who are emotional hysterical snowflakes, I use my brain.
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Right? I apply logic. I apply reason. It's a novel idea, by the way.
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Yeah. Your what you say you're gonna do doesn't I don't care what you say you're gonna do. I judge you on your fruits. Shall be known by your fruits. If you say you're gonna do this, but you do that, you're a lying bastard.
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Or if you wanna be, like, if you wanna be more biblical than lying bastard, you could say hypocrite. I'll
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I'll I'll be a moral compass on this, Joe. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. You're getting a little more of my savage unfiltered
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I I love it. Guy that I love it. Like a constitutional society. This is probably one of the more this is probably one of the more lively conversations we've had in a little bit. So this is this is great. Although I I got it most of my shows are g rated.
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Constitutionist politics are g rated. I had one I labeled PG 13 the other day because we were talking about porn, but we tried to talk about it very carefully and the, you know, the dangers and problems that it brings to society. But I did write one rated r. I had the inventor of the game called Am I the Ass? Great game. It's like, you know, a survey type thing. Okay. And it's about moral values and how they're different between the generations and how they've changed over time. Like, one of the questions is, are you an ass for eloping when the family wants a church wedding?
Right? Well, you're trying to you're it depends on your perspective. A lot of these things aren't black and white. They're gray areas. Right? We don't wanna cost money. We you know? I love it. At any rate. I love it. Yeah. Am I the Ass is the name of that game. So, yeah, I rated that show rated r. But other than that, usually, I'm g on my show. But I can go x on Savaged Unfiltered.
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The the the signal's a little choppy right now, so I I kinda lost you for a quick second there. But, let's, let me let me do this. Hold on. Give me one second here. Live show, by the way, folks. Weeknights, 7PM central time. These are the joys This is why I don't do live normally. This is why I do live because it makes it better. It makes it it makes it more fun. It challenges your abilities to multitask, which I have none. But, but, how about this, Joe? How about if if you were if you were to look back and and you you came across the younger Joe. Right? What would you tell younger Joe before he got started? Don't get married. Right? Well, I agree with that. Yeah.
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I didn't get married till I was 36. My now ex wife was 23 at the time. So I, you know, I You hound. Had had always said that, you know, I I just hadn't found the right person. Right. And had I not gotten sick and lost my 6 figure salary IT job, I might still be married. But she was young, and, you know, that that whole in sickness and in health thing, it's like, well, she didn't really mean that part. You know? It's it's interesting because, you know, I
[00:43:58] Unknown:
I I understand what you're saying there because I I feel like today, the the the generations coming up, or at least the generation just a little bit before this one, didn't take things like marriage and responsibility to one another very seriously. It it it it was like a disposable type of relationship. They treated it just like if they met somebody at at the local pub and decided, yeah. We're gonna date for a while and you, you know Yeah. Hook ups. Yeah. Yeah. And then you just disappeared. Like, there's there's no commitment to it.
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Like a three year hookup, but then right. It's disposable. I go into that in a to a degree in in my sixth book coming in August, the book of Kennedy Project Carpe Diem, all about life and and living. But, yeah, I like to say, and I've said it on my Christianos politics show several times, it's like we've gone back to the sixties. If it feels good, do it. Right? It's me, me, me. I want it. Not now. Not tomorrow. You should have figured out I was gonna want it and give it to me yesterday. Yeah. That kind of attitude. But remember, the sixties flowers flower children eventually grow grew up and got wiser, and that led to the Jesus revolution.
Mhmm. They finally woke up that, you know, there has to be more than just me, me, me, my, my, my, and only in everything I want. And the Jesus revolution came, and I'm seeing a Jesus revolution part do or redo, redux happening now. Let the left keep pushing their immoral garbage. It's waking
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people from their woke stupor. I I agree with you on that a 100%. Let them eat themselves. Let them let them go as far left as they wanna go. They're only hurting themselves. The the Oh, this And the interesting thing too is is this generation is coming up now, Gen z, I guess it is, they're they're coming up more conservative than they have in the previous generation. A lot of them. Yeah. A lot of them are. Yes. And that's incredibly refreshing to see. You know, fresh young ideas and minds in the conservative movement are only gonna just continue to flower and just bring a lot of great things.
And, that's that's what we're that that that's where we're at at this point. It's that Jesus revolution
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greed too. Yeah. It really is. And this madman dummy running for New York mayor is you know? Again, please keep pushing. Again, we don't teach history. It's the new core r's, I call it. I go into this in my one of my politics books that correlates with the shows. There's two of those out. Right? The new core r's radicalism, raunch, and racism through CRT. They don't want to teach reading, writing, arithmetic, history. They don't understand the Bradford Colony failure and why we are a republic, not a mobocracy, ineptocracy, kleptocracy that the left keeps trying to peddle and madman dummy is you you think things are bad enough now in New York? You think things are bad in California?
If he's elected mayor, and he's got a good chance, New York City will be worse than San Francisco.
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I agree with you. And you know what? What I found very interesting about this is, and originally, I'm from New York. I I think I told you that. So, you know, of course, I'm I I pay attention to what's going on back home. Like, I still have my sisters up there, so I wanna make sure, you know, I'm on top of things with that. One of the interesting things though that I that that I saw there was how the Republican party of New York basically throws a towel in on this one. They sent out a they sent out an official message telling people to to to leave. Leaving Sliwa to the walls. Yeah. Exactly. Exactly. And, you know, that doesn't inspire a lot of hope and confidence that that that conservative ideas are gonna be ever introduced into the city of New York at least.
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But And areas of New York, again, too Yeah. Are becoming more red. Yes. They are. Again, it's the let the left keep pushing. They're pushing people towards the GOP. And, again, Republicans aren't perfect. No. A lot of rhinos and cynos, I want get rid of also who are too much like the leftards, that need to go too. But, you know,
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we may not be perfect, but we're not crazy like them at first. That's right. Now now a few minutes ago, you you threw a word out there called mobocracy. Alright? Now how do you define the difference between a republic and a mobocracy? And, again, why is that distinction so important, especially now?
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Oh, yeah. Our Christian ethos founders. And that's another thing that drives me crazy. You'll hear leftist try to say, well, you know, the original founders weren't really, you know, Christians, or they they weren't really religious. They may have been deists as if that's somehow really different. But, no, they were they were Christians. They they ran around saying, no king but king Jesus. Does that sound like a Buddhist to you? No. Okay. I mean
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right? Not at all.
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They understood again and learned from the Bradford Colony failures. Communism failed on this continent before Marx ever thought he drummed it up. And, they learned from it, and that's why we are a limited republic representative republic, not a mobocracy. They avoided democracy like the plague. That's right. That's like in my terror strikes coming soon to a city near you book. I was at a libertarian meeting one time, you know, peddling the book, and they said, I got quite does the word democracy appear in your book? I no. Not once Because we are not a mobocracy.
That's right. Our founders knew better that two wolves and a sheep voting what's for dinner doesn't work. That's right. Mobocracy, mob rule doesn't work, and we see it with the left in purple states, especially, trying to pull them more left with all these ballot initiatives. They're trying to peddle mobocracy, and, of course, they lie. Like in Michigan, the, we had an abortion ban bill that was in place since the late eighteen hundreds based on what? The fourteenth amendment. But the Dobbs decision, SCOTUS decided to ignore the fourteenth amendment and decided, oh, well, we'll look at this tenth amendment thing and return it to the states. Ignore the fourteenth amendment. But, yeah, they they tried to say, well, we're just codifying Roe.
No. That's not what it did. It overturned the abortion ban law that was in place and came back after, Roe was overturned and made abortion up to and even after birth. Mhmm. It eliminated statutory rape laws. It was a pedophilia law. Literally, a 40 year old male teacher can prey on a 13 year old female student without consequence because statutory rape went out in the name of sexual freedom. And yeah. Right?
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Well, we're we're coming up on the 08:00 hour. So I wanna get into something here with you really quickly before we, before we have to go. Your book, Terror Strikes Coming to a City Near You. Alright? It, it it brings together historical fiction, real world movies. I call it faction. Part fact, part fiction. Yes. Alright. What kind of feedback have you gotten from that, whether it's positive, controversial since that book came out? Well, of course, the left attacks me over it because
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the left has more in common with Al Qaeda and Hezbollah and Hamas and the Houthis and the Taliban even though they try to call us religious bigots and you purists and puritans. Those days are long gone. You know? They have more in common with the Taliban than we do. They hate America just like they do. So leftists, of course, attack me, attack the I have to have call blocker software because I get death threats. I see. Right? Because the left refuses to deal in reality. They attack us just like the left does because they hate Western culture.
They hate biblical community. They themselves want a communist dictatorial authoritarian government governance. They don't want you to have free will and choice. It's like the left only uses the word choice when it comes to killing babies. They're they don't you can't have choice in light bulbs or the food you get to eat or whatever. Choice is just a dodge to the left.
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Alright. So we we talked about some pretty heavy stuff tonight, so far. We didn't even get into half of what I really wanted to talk to you about. We spent more time laugh laughing, which was great. So we're definitely gonna have to have you come back on. You know what? In the terror strikes coming soon to a city near you book,
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even though I I like to say it's not about death and destruction. Mhmm. It's about life and living, like the book of Kennedy, which will be out in August, is about too. And there's a suicide prevention sub thread in it and all kinds of things. But there's a comic relief chapter. No matter how serious is the subject, you got to keep us into humor or we'll all go, woo hoo hoo. Absolutely.
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All in the brain. So let me ask you pain in the membrane. That's that's a good one. I'd like, man, I haven't heard that in a long time. A long time. Cypress Hills, man. That's that's good stuff. Yeah. That's good. Okay. So really quick, we're gonna do some rapid fire here. You ready? Alright. Favorite movie you quote way too often.
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Oh, well, my favorite movie of all time is The Thirteenth Floor. It's a Matrix film before the Keno Reeves Matrix Quadology ever was created. Roland Emmerich, my favorite director, who was also one of my other favorite movies, Stargate, the inventor of the Stargate Okay. System Independence Day, The Day After Tomorrow, but, no, he's not a climate tard. You know, it just makes a good story.
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Alright. UFOs, real threat, misunderstood technology, or just fun to debate? All of the yeah. Above in a way. Okay. I could I could I could agree with that. Best you're in Michigan. So your best Detroit memory or must see spot for anybody that visits?
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Greenfield Village, without a doubt. Henry Ford Greenfield Village in Dearborn, Michigan, suburb of Detroit, the Ford family of, you know, the Ford Automotive, crazy. They brought a bunch of old buildings from Edison's Lab is there.
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Nice. Nice. Nice. Alright. Who's someone that you deeply respect right now, and what are they doing that we should be paying attention to?
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Leo Terrell, which, again, proves the difference between a classical liberal who you can red pill and a left hand who you cannot get to engage in logic or reason no matter how hard you try.
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Leo Turell. I I I do actually like Leo Turell. So, I agree with you on that. That Jeff Jeff Andrew was another
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former democrat, became republican. Right? I don't agree with him. The black mayor of Dallas, was a democrat, became a republican. There's more and more of that. Again, classical liberals who you can reach as opposed to as Dennis Prager sent me straight out, a leftist ideologue
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who you will never reach. I agree. Alright. Last one. If you could speak one sentence into the minds of everyone that's listening and watching right now, what would it be?
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The whole bible in full context.
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Great. I love it. That is fantastic. Alright, Joseph. Where can the audience go to learn more about you, your books, the podcast, upcoming projects?
[00:57:22] Unknown:
Thank you. The proverbial pun intended. Proverbs. Proverbial. Last question. Right? There you go. Joseph m Leonard. Again, it's not French. It's not Leonard. There is a Joseph Leonard in South Carolina who's also a Christian author. I am Joseph m Leonard, Leonard without an o. Joseph m leonard dot u s. Terrorstrikes.info is the the book site. Amazon, of course, all that stuff.
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Alright. Well, Joseph m Leonard, thank you. We are gonna have to have you come on again because there's a lot of stuff I still wanted to talk to you about, discuss you about your books. So, we'll, we'll put you in contact with our producer, anonymous Angela, and we'll get you scheduled, to come on back very, very soon. Alright, folks. Joseph. I had a blast. I am so glad you did, brother. That was great. And so did I. It was it was, like I said, probably the most lively,
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guest segment we've had in a while. So this was fantastic. You you you got both you got both my split personality. You've got my g rated Christitutional side, and you got my raging
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Joe Savage and Children's side. That's awesome, brother. Thank you so much. Joseph m Leonard, folks. Take care, bro. God bless. You too, my friend. Take care now. Alright, folks. Well, that, that was Joseph m Leonard. So make sure you check him out. We'll have all of his contact information in the show notes, so, you'll be able to reach out to him. Alright. So, we are gonna take a short break here, maybe two to two to three minutes. And, I need to go use the restroom, and I need to get some more coffee. And, our guest, our next guest, Ken Stone is waiting Kevin Stone, I'm sorry, is waiting for us in the, in the pervert in the virtual green room. So we'll, we'll be back with him in just a moment. So folks, this is the Joe Russo. It is a live show weeknights 7PM central time, 8PM eastern time. Had to think for a second. A little frozen. Sorry.
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Stay with us. Alrighty. Well, the first hour is done. Let's get that banner turned off, folks. Thank you. First hour in the books. Hour number two coming your way. This is Joe Ruse. Welcome to the Joe Ruse Show, part two for tonight. We're gonna have a a really interesting conversation. I hope you guys enjoyed Joe there. We had a great conversation, it was a lot of fun. And, he's a little bit of a wild man. Probably the more lively guest that we've had in the last couple of weeks, but that was great. Really enjoyed that. And, wasn't sure what to expect, and I sure wasn't surprised either.
But, we are here second hour on a beautiful Friday evening here in Eagle Pass, Texas, and it is, what is it? 98 degrees outside right now at, 08:05PM central time. And, it is a balmy 82 degrees here at the studio with all the fans and ECs running and all that great stuff. Gotta love living in Texas. Gotta love it. Alright. Well, folks, we are gonna go deep, and we're gonna ask some really good questions. I hope good questions in the second hour, and, hope you guys are ready for something a little bit different, something a little mind bending, you might say.
Tonight's guest is recognized as one of the most powerful voices in the world of hypnosis. He's known across more than 40 countries as a master hypnotist, a board certified hypnotherapist, and a best selling author. His title? The Hollywood Hypnotist. Kevin Stone is the go to hypnotherapist for world leaders, top tier athletes, business executives, and celebrities. If you ever flip through People magazine or watch porn stars, not porn, porn stars, or tuned into the Tyra Banks show, you've probably seen his work. He's been featured on ABC, Fox, CBS, NBC, and just about every other major platform, and he's here with us on his little itty bitty show broadcasting live across Rumble.
And what does he do is he guides people to overcome smoking, stress, anxiety, weight issues, and more with a track record of over a million lives changed. He's open for the band Starship. He's consulted for global leaders. He's helped clients unlock success that they didn't even know was possible. So tonight, we're gonna ask, is hypnosis a gimmick, a tool, a science, or spiritual connection to something deeper in ourselves? Let's go find out. Kevin Stone, welcome to the Joe Russo. Glad to have you here. Joe, how are you? I am great. Thanks for having me on. No problem. Even the whole audience got to see you there sipping your soda.
That's that's a That's a good joke. Yeah. It was I hope so. It looked it looked good. I I actually went to get Yeah. I went to get some of my, my $17.75 coffee, got it needed a refill. And I was thinking about, I was thinking about refilling. Oh, you weren't you didn't see the the first part of the show, I guess. I have my my ultra methylene blue. I was thinking about going in a refill on that one, but I decided against that. I think it's too much. So little little little too relaxed here tonight. So, alright. Well, Kevin, thank you so much for being here with us tonight.
This is great. You know, I I you know, when when when we saw you come up on on our our schedule here, I was like, wow. I I know that name. Where do I know that name from? So I I did some research on you, and wow. I'm really impressed. And again, I appreciate you being here with us tonight. So Absolutely. So let me I usually start off with a couple of, of, softball questions. You know, I'll get you warmed up in the bullpen here. Alright? So, what's Fire away, Joe. Fire away. What's something most people don't know about you but should?
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Wow. There's so much. I mean, you know, I've been doing this for over thirty years. And so I've, you know, life is amazing, and I I love to have the experience of just living life and what God provides. And so for me, every day is a different day, and, I've had incredible life experiences, incredible blessings in my life, to see things that most people can't see or experience. So to really put that into context is very, very difficult. I gotcha. Especially on the spot because I've never really thought about that because
[01:08:51] Unknown:
That's what we did. Was an right now is an amazing experience, Joe. Oh, well, thank you. Appreciate that. Like, I turned I turned all red. Look at that. How nice.
[01:09:00] Unknown:
You really did? Makeup. Makeup.
[01:09:05] Unknown:
Alright. How about this? Maybe this is a little bit better. What's your go to beverage to unwind at the end of the day?
[01:09:12] Unknown:
None. I try to stay away from all beverages after 6PM because, I'm a little older, so I don't feel like getting up three, four times in the middle of the night interrupting my sleep pattern. And, those who are watching and or listening
[01:09:27] Unknown:
certainly appreciate what I'm saying right now. Oh, I do too. You know, I, you know, I I sometimes I kinda regret, you know, having the having the the coffee and the the the methylene blue, but I'm also a bourbon guy. So so usually at the end of the day, I like to I got like a little bit of bourbon. Not all not I haven't not as bad as I used to be with it, but, you know, it's it's gotten a lot better.
[01:09:48] Unknown:
I kinda know where you're going with that, but no. I don't I don't drink alcohol. Never, even in college, never did, participated in alcohol or any of those traditional, things that one does. And so I just never really it's not like I haven't tried it, but I just never really acquired a taste or didn't really appreciate the feeling of being out of control over something, especially with alcohol. Because alcohol, what most people don't understand is a depressant. Mhmm. And it really doesn't fuel the physical body or the mind. And so for me, I just never really acquired a taste and never really,
[01:10:27] Unknown:
felt that it was, beneficial to me in any way. Yeah. I just love the taste of it, and I love to I love to, kinda pair it up with a nice cigar. You know? So it's it's nice. Absolutely.
[01:10:36] Unknown:
Absolutely.
[01:10:37] Unknown:
Taste their own as far as Of course. Absolutely. Yes. Whatever makes you happy. Whatever like what I said, whatever floats your boat, you know. Yeah. That's the way it is. Exactly. So Kevin, how did you get into, hypnosis? Like, was there a light bulb moment for you that that just popped up? No.
[01:10:52] Unknown:
Absolutely not. For me, again, I think once you understand your purpose in life and to find your purpose, you have to seek God. God will give you that information.
[01:11:05] Unknown:
I agree. And so
[01:11:07] Unknown:
I was seeking my purpose as a young man because my thoughts and what I thought I was in control of, that I was going to school to be a news anchor. And that was my ultimate goal, to be, on the, you know, 06:00 news on your local TV, and hit the big markets like New York or Los Angeles. And that was kind of the path I had set for myself when I started when I left high school, went into college, and I got into radio because that was the back in the day, now it's a whole different ballgame with these podcasts and all these things that people do. But back in the day, the stepping stone or the the door to get in was radio. So I was working the number one radio station on the East Coast, and it was a job opportunity that opened up here on the West Coast.
And so, of course, I followed that because, Los Angeles was my target market. So I thought, okay. I'm gonna get a introductory, level job, and work my way up to get into the bigger market of, news casting, and that was the goal. So I was in between jobs because back in those days, radio was called a revolving door of radio. And what what happened is is that if the station well, there was rating books that came in every quarter. Mhmm. And if those rating books were not sufficient to the company, well, they cleaned house. It didn't matter who you were. They cleaned house. So I was one of the ones who got cleaned out, not because of my performance, not ratings, not because of anything. It was just semantics and how they did it.
So anytime I'm in between anything, I always go back to academia because I have this incredible sensation, this appetite to learn, understand different things in life. Mhmm. So I had always had an interest in hypnosis as a boy, but it was never something that I followed or entertained because I would read the comic books and see, oh, do hypnosis in the back of the cover and all these kind of things. I thought very, very interesting. Of course, to a 12 year old boy, it was absolutely fascinating. Yeah. Sure. But never really, took the steps to do that because in my environment, I grew up, in a very, Catholic home. So all of this back in those days and even today, the stigma is still there.
But the stigma is is that this is taboo. It's the work of, the cults. It's the devil's work. All Right. Yeah. Everything everyone thinking is what what people think this is. And, of course, I I grew up in that environment. And so it was never encouraged and or I never never really got past the comic book until I got to LA. There was a college here in LA, the only accredited colleges in the world that taught hypnosis. And I thought, okay. I'm in between jobs. I'm I'm looking for a job. I'm gonna go back to school. I always had an interest in this when I was a boy. Right. And it kept it kept getting my attention. It kept getting my attention. Again, when God when God speaks, you know, you're gonna you're gonna know. And so and, yeah, don't be like Jonah. Follow what he's trying to say to you. So I enrolled in the program Mhmm. Thinking, okay. I'm just gonna take the basic one on one, and then I'll be back at another job, and I'll be on my way.
Well, that just turned into not just the basic one zero one. I ended up signing up for the whole two year program. I ended up becoming an instructor, for five years. I opened up a private practice, right here in Los Angeles, and the rest was history. My the word got out about my technique, about what I do. And in the entertainment industry, just like radio or most most industries, it's a very small community, and the word get out pretty quickly about my work, what I do, and the people I work with, and my technique. So that turned into what it is today, thirty years later, becoming the guy. Right?
The guy who can help people, guide people to where they need to go because of my passion and what I I'm really passionate about how to what God has gifted me to do to basically help people to help themselves. So there's the line that's Yeah. No. That's great. Question. Yeah. No. That's great. That's how that's how it all started. That's how I really got into this, and it was really my path because I really sat down. And I really, there was a point in time about ten years ago where I thought God was gonna lead me in a different direction. And I ended up going to seminary because I felt he wanted me to become a pastor at this point, and I'm riding the the high peak of of what I'm doing at that time. Right. Right? I I'm I'm becoming that guy globally, the world.
People are seeking me out, and I and I really sat down and I said, you know, what is it that you really want me to do? Because I'm not really feeling this. I'm not really feeling passionate as I was. You You know? What what do I need to do? So I put all of that aside, and I went to seminary to become a pastor. Completed that, and I thought I was on my way to become a local pastor and to head head to church. Mhmm. Well, God started closing those doors and said, no. I think that what you're better doing your ministry is gonna be is what you're doing. You're able to reach more people. You've already got this following. You've got you've built this for all these years, and so this is what we're gonna do. And, of course, I said no.
No. I think I'm done. This is what I wanna do. I just wanna focus on the church. I wanna build a community. I wanna build a body. And he kept saying no. And so I felt like Jonah at that point, and I said to myself, okay. I'm gonna be obedient, and I did. And then that opened up incredible doors Sure. Where now it's become, so incredibly massive about the work that I do and everything. And I'm not resistant anymore, but I still have questions because, again, I did all that training. I went through the whole process, and I'm still, not quite clear as to what direction he wants to use me for in that area. But I do know that the work I'm I'm basically doing the same thing. I'm helping people to help themselves. I guide people, and I'm I'm able to help them to really focus their mind on the things that they need to focus on so they can get past their limited belief systems, not only spiritual spiritually, but whatever it is that's blocking them in life because we're so influenced by everything that we see every single day.
And so it's important to stay focused.
[01:18:16] Unknown:
And what do you think what do you think the biggest misconception people have about how the human mind works and how and how, hypnosis fits into that?
[01:18:25] Unknown:
Yeah. The biggest misconception is, again, is what people don't even think or they because, again, hypnosis is a very natural organic state. We go in and out of hypnosis about a thousand times a day. So natural state it truly is. So we're being programmed all day long. And, again, if you really get into scripture and, again, I don't really emphasize too much about again, I don't wanna get people a wrong impression that I'm talking a lot about God and everything, but you have to understand my path, my journey of what put me here and why I'm here, and I understand that completely. So I'm gonna definitely share that at every opportunity that I can. So the point is is that we're being programmed all day long, and it's important to stay focused on the prize.
Right? It's important to stay focused on the things that really, really matter and not the external things of life and all the temptations of what's going on in life. And so that's what I think a lot of the misconception is because a lot of people don't really understand. They really are sheep, and they're just following with the trend. They're following along with what is happening I agree with you. Yeah. In their presence, and and they need to understand why they're doing that.
[01:19:40] Unknown:
That's a great point. I I agree with you. I think, you know, people do just follow trends. And I I also I was kinda wondering as you were talking, like, one of the things that that when I was growing up, they they used to always tell me that when I was in school as a kid, I would drift off and daydream. Is would would that be considered a type of, like, a a hypnosis or something? 100%.
[01:20:02] Unknown:
That's the natural state that people don't understand that what we go through daily. Watching a good movie, reading a good book. You're up on the highway freeway. You're driving along. You miss your exit somewhere. It's three exits back somewhere. Drifting off and sitting in in a classroom, not paying attention to the teacher. These are all a trance like state. That's the true hypnotic state. Right? Karate, childbirth, all of these things. When you're focused not on the on what is in front of you, but what is happening and you kinda drift off and have that daydream Right. State like you just described,
[01:20:37] Unknown:
that's what a true hypnotic state is. So do you see how natural of a state it really is and how we go in and out of it about a thousand times a day? Sure. Yeah. I I can think of a few times just in the course of my day today that I kinda caught myself drifting off some place, you know, when I was I was actually working, I have a regular job, I think I'd mentioned earlier. And I was actually working on something, and I hadn't even realized how much time I'd spent working on the thing. I was just doing it and going through my thing and step by step. And before I knew it, it was I was on this project for more than forty minutes, and I was like, wow, I just feel like I just started this thing. And, that's I think it's something to do like that as well. They just Absolutely. So, in in your experience though, what's the number one reason people kinda get stuck in in their lives, and and how do you get them unstuck or help them get unstuck?
[01:21:27] Unknown:
Well, it's programming. It's conditioning. It's a lot of the things that we take from our family history. Right? And it's handed generation to generation to generation because that's how my father did. That's how my mother did. So that's gonna do it. And then you grow up, and then you have these same belief systems that you think, okay. This is what it be, and you don't even think about making your own choices. You just kinda go with the rhythm, kinda go with the flow because that's the safe zone. That's the path of least resistance. And that's as as humans, we're all conditioned to wanna take the path of least resistance. This is why we have instant, you know, again, everything is instant in our lives. Right. Seven eleven. There's everything is I I can order something and have from Amazon, have it in my house within a couple of hours.
It's mind boggling how everything now is so instant. So we we grow to take things for granted, and we don't really we don't really digest them. We don't really think about them and how it works and why it works for us. And so these become blocks because then there's expectation that comes with that that one doesn't even really think about because they think it should happen because this is what's been happening. That's how they're trained to do that. So they don't think outside the box. They don't they don't really go outside the box because there's a lot of fear. There's a lot of Mhmm. Again, knowledge is power. The more you understand, the more you you really
[01:22:58] Unknown:
see it, then you realize you're the one who's really in control. That's called free will. Right? That's right. That's good. That's good. Now you deal with a lot of challenges, like like deep root challenges, addiction, anxiety, weight, trauma. Right. How how fast can can a transformation really happen through hypnotherapy?
[01:23:17] Unknown:
It depends on the individual. Everything's individualistic, so it depends on the person. And if they're really understanding and open to what this really is, because once they get past the cynicism, once they get past the stigma, once they get past the all those things that were created by our society and still were there because, again, I get this every single day, and every almost every single person that I treat, you know, they have these misconceptions about what they've just seen in the movies or, you you know, it's just not what that is. But what ends up happening is, if they just allow the process to work because they're doing it already, all I am is a guide.
[01:23:55] Unknown:
I see. I'm not a magician. I'm not putting any voodoo dust on you and and and curing the process. Doesn't work that way. That's it. Yeah. That's interesting. So there is that stigma that people tend to look at at hypnosis and hypnotherapy as come some kind of a, like a like a faux science. It's a it's it's it's just smoke and mirrors. It's it's a game. It's not real. It's all fake. It's, you know, but the truth of the matter is it does work. And I know from experience, not from my personal experience myself, but my dad actually went through hypnotherapy, many years ago. He he he's with the Lord now, but, to to help him with his smoking problem, to quit smoking. And he went to he went through hypnotherapy, and you know it it worked. And it was really it was fascinating to watch the whole
Introduction and Rumble's Free Speech Stand
Technical Difficulties and Guest Introduction
Joseph M. Leonard's Background and Beliefs
Discussion on Christian Values and Politics
Personal Journey and Political Views
Generational Shifts and Political Landscape
Terror Strikes Book and Public Reaction
Transition to Second Hour and New Guest Introduction
