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(00:01:52) Introduction and Show Overview
(00:02:02) Guest Introduction: Evan Turk, Esquire
(00:11:39) Discussion on January 6 and Legal Proceedings
(00:21:37) Political Witch Hunts and Congressional Dynamics
(00:43:09) Immigration and Border Policies
(00:54:59) Middle East Politics and Israel
(01:08:39) Global Politics and Nuclear Threats
(01:49:36) Cultural Reflections and Personal Stories
(01:55:37) Propaganda and Media Influence
(02:02:41) Closing Remarks and Contact Information
- Wayne Rankin
- Rosanna Rankin
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[00:12:11] Unknown:
I just wanted to keep you on your feet. You know? Mission on a live show. Mission accomplished. Mission accomplished.
[00:12:19] Unknown:
Alright. So, Evan, why don't you, just kinda walk us through your background, give us an idea of of how you, became the go to attorney, for some of the most important and complex cases in in the history of The United States?
[00:12:37] Unknown:
Well, where where where does one start? Right? First of all, I I'm I'm blessed to have, live in, there's two states I would like to live in. Texas being one of them, your hometown. But here in, South Florida, Palm Beach, Boca Raton
[00:12:56] Unknown:
Nice.
[00:12:57] Unknown:
This is the Winter White House as they call it. So first thing first, I was, located in the right area. Second is I, happen to be in the right location with the right people. And, one of the big assets that I've had was my friendship with the right people, one of which is a gentleman by the name of Peter Ticton. Peter Ticton, we worked together for years, and he happened to go to military school with Donald Trump. And Donald Trump calls him his oldest friend. Mhmm. I say that's because you are literally his oldest friend. But, all kidding aside, his daughter ran into this woman who was very unknown at the time. Her name is Alina, Alina Habba.
And I happen to know, at the time, Rand Paul senior adviser, who then became one of the Trump senior advisers. And, all things work together, and we started out as local counsel for for the president of The United States. I never have expected that. And that's not the end. That's just the beginning. And during, the aftermath in January 6, the president asked, mister Peter Ticton to work with him on gathering all the evidence, and he worked with Giuliani to make sure that all the evidence in January 6 were identifiable and that all the resources, all the phone calls, all the data was centralized.
We now have, a lot of information that would blow your mind, on what the truth behind January 6 is versus, what the fake news will share.
[00:14:51] Unknown:
Well, then I'm glad you brought up January 6 because, you know, that's what that's something that I'm I'm very interested in, and I've been I've been following it, obviously, since since it happened. I don't, I don't necessarily buy the, the narrative that the mainstream media puts out on it. But, k. You don't think it was an insurrection? Oh, no. I believe I believe it was, but I don't think it was the I I don't think it was the crowd that performed the insurrection. I think it was Exactly. Deep inside the government that did it. But, what do you think one of the biggest misconceptions, though, that that the public has about the, January 6 legal proceedings as they were?
[00:15:31] Unknown:
Okay. The legal proceedings that the people who were marching along or peacefully protesting through the Capitol Building, which for the most part was opened, alongside police officers and all types of people with no weapons. They got charged with crimes that you would think that, they had weapons and that they were gathered ahead of time with a a planned overthrow of the government, and they were treated like that. Mhmm. A lot of people were just what they thought were exercising their first amendment right, freedom of speech, didn't realize at the time that they were trespassing.
If we forget what was going on at that time, you had it was around COVID where everybody was, you know, locked inside for for months or or years, depending on what state you resided in Mhmm. Except if, you are part of certain types of select groups, you know, Black Lives Matter being one of them Mhmm. Then you are allowed to peacefully protest, which included starting fires because that's just what you do during a peaceful protest. Right? Exactly. Yeah. Sure. I mean, because people get cold. You need to warm your body. That's right. Yeah. So the misconception is that these people who, given the opportunity if you were in Washington DC walking near the Capitol Building and you see people walking through the Capitol Building alongside police and, really, nobody's trying to stop you walking through, you could understand a little bit of the mentality.
But the news, the fake news media saw it as an opportunity to really exploit the opportunity to get Trump to never run for office again, to criminalize it, politicize it, and, here we are today. Fortunately, we have somebody who was brave enough to withstand something that most people couldn't withstand, including his family at one point, didn't think he had a chance after that election, after the, twenty twenty election and said, dad, it's enough time. You know? You should step down, and not think about running again, and now he's our president.
[00:18:12] Unknown:
Which is amazing. The when you think how the the how he has overcome the the radical left, mainstream media, all of the, the the the silencing of social media. The man had to go out and start his own social media company just to get out just to get his message out there. And he he went through the, the whole, Russia gate thing. While he was in office, he went through all of the bullshit, excuse my language. Mhmm. Trials up in New York with, Leticia James. And and, by the way, New York is my hometown. I'm I'm a transplant to Texas. Thank God for that. Yes. But, Yeah. Me too. I'm from Jersey. So Yeah. I went south. You went south. That's the migration a little bit more to this. Yeah. Exactly. That's the way it works. Like, I used to joke, say, you know, you start in Brooklyn, then you move to Staten Island. From Staten Island, you go to Jersey. From Jersey, you go to Florida. So Yeah. You know, but, I buy You noticed New Jersey is never the final destination. No. No. Everybody wants to vacate. Everybody wants to vacate. Yes. But, but, yeah. But but, Donald Trump, he went through all of those cases up in New York, the trials up in New York, the the the the convictions, the mug shots in Georgia, and and all of that stuff that they thought was gonna be detrimental to his political career, to silence him and shut him up, all backfired.
He is the most popular president by far in my lifetime, and probably in modern history. He's probably the most popular president. I saw a poll, I think it was earlier today or late yesterday, that, RealClearPolitics put out that, that he is at 48% approval at the same time in his second term as Barack Obama was at 47%, and George Bush was, the second George Bush, at 46%. So he's he's outperforming the darling of the Democrat party. Well, I don't I don't know if I can say that anymore. I don't think they're too too keen on Obama so much right now. But, but, you know, he beats out their darling, and he beats out, into the neocon.
So Yeah. You know, it's it's just it's just a testament to his his stamina, and especially at his age. You know? What is he, 73?
[00:20:40] Unknown:
Fair enough. No. He's 70, 78. He's 79.
[00:20:44] Unknown:
Oh, wow. Okay. I thought he was younger than that. Yeah. Well, that's the Yeah.
[00:20:48] Unknown:
I mean, he's he's been eating those McDonald's hamburgers. There's gotta be something in that. And,
[00:20:53] Unknown:
Maybe, maybe maybe RFK got him taking some of that, blue methylene stuff.
[00:20:58] Unknown:
Something. I mean, like, the guy has more energy than I do, and I'm I know. 48 years old. He's done he's done more in his in his first six months of this of his second term
[00:21:10] Unknown:
than Joe Biden has done in, what, fifty years in public service.
[00:21:18] Unknown:
Yeah. I mean yeah. Absolutely. I mean, I I I just think, he did more in the first hundred days than, the the the man who preceded him, or the man before him did his whole career. Right? Yeah. I I agree.
[00:21:37] Unknown:
So I agree. But, just wanna get back to the j six stuff for for a few more minutes. So, now, of course, you know, the the way the whole committee was set up, you know, unethical, I think. I don't know if that's the right term for it. But, Criminal? Criminal. That's Borderline? Yeah. That's that's a good one too. But it does set a precedent though for few for for for, future political witch hunts, don't you think?
[00:22:08] Unknown:
Absolutely. But, Or at least in protest related prosecution. The president was started, the second Trump walked down the the escalator. Mhmm. And it adds to it. And then you stack the committee with two Republicans that are, the definition of rhinos Mhmm. And and And rabbit one who has ties to Halliburton and a very evil father as a vice president. And what do you expect? You had somebody who is not a big, ally of president Trump, Rand Paul, which would have been a perfect person to be there, but I think that they they said he was too, centralist or I'm sorry.
He wasn't objective. I I forget what they they used. So they stacked a deck, and, you know, no matter what happened, no matter what the evidence showed, they were gonna get an outcome because they were looking for it.
[00:23:17] Unknown:
What do you think about, speaker Johnson, talking about, setting up a subcommittee to investigate j six the j six committee?
[00:23:27] Unknown:
It needs to happen. The challenge that we have is when we expose the truth. It it it leads up this is the the the problem that I I we we we always see is that you feel like something's gonna happen. We're gonna finally get something. Right? Mhmm. And then silence. Like, the first time president Trump was in office, we thought we're gonna figure out who, what was in Roswell and JFK, who assassinated JFK, and now this time around, Jeffrey Epstein, and then we found out that it was suicide. So
[00:24:03] Unknown:
I Which I I I still don't.
[00:24:06] Unknown:
I don't. I don't know. I I just don't get it at all other than, I could go conspiracy theory, and I shouldn't. Well, I won't we'll probably never find out. But, I love the idea of it. I love the exposure of it. I would love, love, love to to to see the truth behind it. But the powers would be somehow, it just always leaves for excitement and goes nowhere. Well yeah. But Sorry. You're right, though. In the sense that I would love it for it to happen to really the truth
[00:24:42] Unknown:
get disclosed, but we will see. Yeah. And, you know, and it and I'll be honest with you. I I am a little disappointed with some of the how slow things have been moving as and certain things. Like like, I I love the fast pace as far as the economy goes, and, you know, the way he's been moving around, you know, just keeps the media off balance, keeps the Democrats off balance. You know? They don't know which way he's gonna go next, which I think is great. It's a great strategy. I hope he can keep it up. But, what I what I'm really starting to get disappointed with is, Pam Bondi.
[00:25:19] Unknown:
Mhmm.
[00:25:20] Unknown:
I think she's spending more time on Fox friends and Fox News than she is, in her office actually doing some work for the people that she promised would be done, and that president Trump said would be done. Like, of course, you know, when we mentioned the Epstein files, personally speaking, I don't think that there is much left. I think a lot of that was destroyed the moment that, that Donald Trump was, officially, named as a nominee for the Republican party for for for this, for this four year term. I think that as soon as that took place and they realized that the the possibility of him coming back to the office is was true. They they dumped everything they possibly could. And what they couldn't dump, I'm sure they scrubbed it.
Made, you know, changing documents and and whatnot. I wouldn't be surprised at that. And I I did I did some law enforcement work back in New York, you know. I worked for the city for twenty three years. I was an investigator for a number of years. So I understand that, you know, investigations take time, and then sometimes you can't talk about things. You can't, you know, reveal too much information, you know, to the public on cases that you're working on. I understand that. But, you know, don't go out there and promise people, oh, there's truckloads of information and and produce a binder with nothing in it other than information that was already released and all redacted.
Exactly.
[00:26:47] Unknown:
So the way I'm looking at what's to come is we know in his first term, you know, certain things for whatever reason, I like I said, I could come up with five, six, seven good conspiracies as to why this happened or this did not happen. But at the end of the day, what I'm more most concerned pragmatically is are we moving forward in a way where after this term, we get somebody in office that makes this country and makes us proud, Americans
[00:27:26] Unknown:
Yeah.
[00:27:27] Unknown:
And most important, Americans, or do we do this ping pong effect? And so we get somebody that is completely so far, it's the other side, someone like an AOC that you won't have four years to understand this country. And on top of that, what type of political prisoners will we have? January 6 may just be, the beginning of something that we now know, you know Yeah. Can happen and what will happen. So what I'm really more concerned about, although I would love love to know the truth behind JFK, Roswell, you know, Epstein files, and all that. Most important, though, is where is this country gonna be when Trump leaves office? Is is this gonna be a JD Vance presidency next, or is this gonna be something so extreme that, you know, everything that we stood for, everything our forefathers
[00:28:30] Unknown:
fought for is forgotten Yeah. And just goes to not. So Yeah. I'm I'm concerned about that too. I I honestly I think, you know, we're gonna get the four years of of Donald Trump, and then I think we're gonna get I think we're gonna get Vance. Mhmm. I'd like to see and and I I know some people kinda scratch their heads when I say this, but I'd like to see a Vance Rubio ticket.
[00:28:52] Unknown:
Yeah. No. It's it's great because Rubio is more of an establishment, whereas Vance is more of
[00:29:01] Unknown:
a MAGA Republic. Yeah. And But Rubio is also kind of he's come a long way. You know? Yes. He's he's he's changed a lot since his debate performance with with Trump the first the first go around. And Yes. He's he's really grown into the role that he's in, and I'm really impressed, to be honest with you. And I I don't know if it's all an act. I don't know if he's just, you know, playing the part just to, you know, just to just to, you know, keep keep himself in the position and keep himself in the public eye. But, you know, if this is a legitimate, like, born again, you know, experience for him, I I'm really impressed. He's he's definitely the most improved player.
[00:29:40] Unknown:
Yes. Yes. And what what's good about him is he his pedigree. He he's somebody that, he's Cuban. He's, an immigrant. I think his parents were Cuban refugees, and he's bilingual. I love when he speaks both in English and Spanish. And Sure. He's he's a a true Floridian. And, now there's nothing bad to say about him. All I could think of is, you know, every time I've met the president, realizing the president's hands aren't little, and that's the only thing that we'll never understand. Yeah. I know. I I I I mean, it's something that we could all see. Why would you say your hands are little? I know.
[00:30:23] Unknown:
And I I love the nicknames that he comes up with for people. I think they're I think they're hysterical. He just nails it, man. He's he's he's good at what he does. He's he's good at branding. He's, you know, that's his thing. That that's definitely his thing. One thing I am concerned about too is, like I mentioned, the slow pace of things and how they're going. Now from what I understand, and correct me if I'm wrong on this one, but I I believe that, you know, the Republicans hold the house, the senate, and the house of representatives, and yet they've sent fewer bills to the president's desk than any previous, congress in seventy years.
Yeah. And that's that's disturbing. You know?
[00:31:12] Unknown:
I know. And it concerns me because we only have two years. We don't have four years Right. For, a stacked deck. Thank you. And what's happening other than executive orders? And, you know, I love the executive orders that the president signed, but as a fundamental constitutionalist, I don't like executive orders. I think they're, for a lack of better words, they're bullshit. And they're not long lasting, and it's a breach of the fundamental, power. So, balance of power. So why don't we have a congress that gets their act together? Right? Mhmm. Works together and gets these executive offices passed through through the legislative branch, not the executive branch.
And this way, the courts can't contest it because they'll have no standing, and they take the judicial branch out of the equation. Yeah. What is congress doing except the the lower house, passed the big, great bill. But by the time it comes into law, it's gonna be completely
[00:32:22] Unknown:
gutted out. Oh, for sure. There there is there I and I'll be honest with you. I I've been trying to keep up with it, and there's just so much back and forth on this thing. I I understand that that this isn't a spending bill. This isn't a budget. You know, this is, like, what do they call it? Reconciliation bill? Yes. Reconciliation. So, so, yeah, there's not gonna be the cuts. There's not gonna be the budget lines for, like, to to codify Doge, the Doge cuts. Mhmm. That doesn't happen till September. You know? This is basically there to get us through until September, until the actual budget can come into play. So I I see there's all that back and forth going on between, like like like, Elon Musk, you know, saying, you know, how disgusted he is with this thing.
Rand Paul, you know, expressing his disgust over the whole thing. And then you have, Miller coming out Stephen Miller coming out, in defense of the bill. And, actually, I I had something here somewhere. Let me see. I can pull it up really quick. So this was a a a tweet. I don't know if you can see that. It's kinda small print. But
[00:33:36] Unknown:
Yeah. Oh, I can zoom in now when I see it. So you're gonna take it around to big, beautiful villa at the park. Right?
[00:33:44] Unknown:
It's lengthy. So, you know, to read the whole thing, but, you know so all this really does is just provide a lot of confusion.
[00:33:54] Unknown:
Yeah. Yes. It does. I mean, the the the issues and the challenges, we have or, the Republicans have versus the Democrats is that Democrats seem to, all accept no matter what piece of shit comes in in front of them, they all
[00:34:15] Unknown:
stand in line. And I was I was gonna say the same thing, that Democrats, the first Republicans, Democrats move in lockstep. Yeah. You know, they they don't deviate. No matter what it is, they're all in the same message. Good and bad. You know? Yeah. You do wanna have some dissension. You do wanna have some debate and some discussion within the party itself. But at the same time, you wanna be able to come together and and and at least have those debates privately. Don't don't don't put it on display and and make the president look weak, you know, which is which is another thing, you know, I wanna touch on, you know, in a in a minute or two, this whole thing with him supposedly not being briefed on what happened with Ukraine over the weekend.
But, you know, it's the republics Republicans need to get them get their act together. You know? Again, like you said, we have two years. We don't have four years. I had Jasmine Crockett, you know, the the the the the the mouth of of Dallas, Texas over here. She's already talking about if she gets a a committee chairmanship that she's immediately gonna push for investigations for for impeachment. You know? And then we'll and then we'll have two years of just nonstop bogus impeachment hearings, spending more American more more of the taxpayer dollars on on on hearings and and committees and and all that mess for nothing.
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Possibly nothing other than for someone like Jasmine to to fire the base and get you know, take more power from moderates. And, you know, the more it it it seems like the less educated you are, the more obnoxious you speak, the the better you do.
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You know? It's idiotic. And it's just
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she epitomizes. She makes AOC look,
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tame. Right? She makes it look like a Rhodes Scholar. Yeah. You know? Exactly. But, but you might you know the movie Idiocracy? That's what we're living in some part of it. Well, at least we're at the very we're at the cusp of it. We're, you know, we're we're just maybe an election or two away from falling into that abyss.
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You know? I know. And, we have the technology now to get us there with artificial intelligence, saying people won't even know what to do. True. Very true.
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And, speaking of which, Marjorie Taylor Greene, provided a nice little mea culpa today. Did you did you catch that?
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No. Unfortunately, I put in court today.
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No. She, she said that she regrets her vote for the, the big beautiful bill because it, it has provisions in there for, congressional control over AI development and not leaving it with the states and letting the states handle it. So Interesting. She says that, there were there were pages that that, that she wasn't aware of in the bill, which I find, you know, disturbing. You know? Mhmm. You're supposed to be reading these bills. I mean, I don't know if maybe she didn't have them or she just
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Or maybe she learned from Nancy Pelosi that says
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sign it then read it. Right. Yeah. Well, we have to pass it to find out what it says.
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Yeah. Alright.
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I'd never forget that. That that was like, But, but, you know, but but I am thoroughly pleased. Yeah. You know, you see all these on these, on on all these social medias, like like, like like, x and all that stuff. You know, did you vote for this? You know, and they show you these horrible pictures of, you know, like, completely blown out, you know, scenarios that are taking place that, you know, totally out of context and and whatnot. So this this this this this, Maryland band has been deported, leaving his whole family behind. Do you do you vote for this? If he was here illegally. Yes. I did. I did vote for that. Yeah. And now we have this thing with, with Colorado man out there. Yeah. You know, because, of course, you know, that's gonna be the that's gonna be the spin that, that the Democrats gonna put on it. You know, Colorado man is, you know, being detained, you know, harassed because he's here illegally. He's he's he's undocumented.
I think it I think it's a term they're getting used. But,
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but And I have I have such It drives me nuts. One of my my biggest pet peeves is the, the left's political correctness of common sense and the terms that conservatives now even use because it became mainstream. But you used the word undocumented or you used the word migrant. Mhmm. You know, by definition, if you break the law to come into this country, it's an activity. It's called illegal. And if you're not from here, you're an alien, so you're an illegal alien. Right. They could be a migrant, but we don't know if you're a migrant or you're a gangster.
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Correct.
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So why don't call them gangsters? They're just as legitimate as a migrant. You can talk about this one person, and we all know, we've all living in this country, you from Texas, me from Florida, or even New Jersey, that you met somebody that did work on a car or, came to your house and and did a wonderful job, and that's what you think. You you that's coming into the country. But that's not the truth. And when you don't vet but we can't even say and speak the obvious without political correctness. That's true. And, you know, we just use these terms undocumented.
Well, you could vote now if you're undocumented because it's racist to say, you know Yep. You should have an ID because it's voter suppression. Mhmm.
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Which I don't which I never understood how how getting an ID is, is is so difficult for, you know, minorities and Mhmm. And and and, you know, it suppresses their votes, and it makes it difficult for them to do that. You have to have ID for just about everything you do in this in this world now. Yeah. You know, how do you not have an ID card?
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And and and my thinking is if you can't figure out how to get identification Then you don't vote. Should you be voting in the first place? Correct. I agree with that. I I I love it. I mean, show some sort of common sense. Right? Some sort of intelligence. Because, otherwise, what does your vote mean? But that that you can't say that in a politically correct universe. So, you know, it's a fun activity when when you have some free time. Go into chat g b t or whatever artificial intelligence you use and, type in, give me the best argument why we should not have voter ID or voter ID is racist.
And it's just interesting because you know and you could just go really deep into it and say, no. Make it stronger. Make it more convincing. Make it more this or make it more that. And no matter how you do it, no matter how you spin it, it still makes no sense. It it makes, like, one of the things that I first started doing because I never understood this. It's it's the, squatter's rights issue. Mhmm. How do you justify a squatter's right? Like, how does a squatter someone who breaks an answer, it commits a crime, has rights in the first place. But since nobody has claimed that over time, they take possession over that property.
And that's when I started doing this. And now all of a sudden, just trying to look at arguments that make no sense from the other side just so that I could have a meeting of the minds and say, maybe I overlooked something. Maybe I missed something. Mhmm. There's nothing I missed. Just common sense. I'm and especially the voter ID. I'm like, give me the strongest and I watched these, Charlie Kirk when he goes to these campuses. You have all these people. I'm like, I'm waiting for that one person to have an argument that I never thought of why it makes sense to not have ID.
And it makes no sense.
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None. Yeah. Oh, I know I know exactly. I know exactly what you mean, and and I I agree with you. I mean, it it's it's it's not difficult to obtain an ID. And, yeah, I agree. Also, if you if you if you can't figure out to have ID, then how to how to get an ID card, I don't think I want you voting. You know? That's why I kinda like what the founding generation, you know, was we're thinking of. They were like, you know, if you're not a property owner, you shouldn't vote.
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Yeah. I mean, we just gotta be careful how we say it because they also said if you're a woman, you can't vote. Yeah. Well, yeah. I agree with that. Be careful. Right? No. I'm
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kidding. Yeah. Listen. We we say whatever we have to say here. We don't care. You know? It's a it's a non politically correct show, so I I don't know. But but, but but speaking of rights, you know, talking about, you know, these these illegals that have been coming and pouring through the border of the previous administration, one of the things that irritate me the most is when you hear the left screaming about, they they need to have due process before they get deported. They need Yeah. They need, you know, violating their rights. What rights do they have? The constitution if I'm not I'm not a lawyer, you know, so you you can correct me if I'm wrong here on this, but, the constitution's protections only apply to American citizens, not every citizen of the world. Correct?
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I think it's not specified or codified like that in the constitution, so it leaves room for debate. The challenge that you have here is if you allow these 14,000,000 or whatever the million number of legals that came across the border, their due process will be three generations in before they get removed. Right? Or at least one generation. So then they will all have children in this country that have rights because they're Americans, and now you'll be separating families. So you can't do that. Mhmm. So how do you fix the problem? Right? Especially if you're left on someone on the left, you can't it it all contradicts.
It does. And and and what what really makes sense to me it's not whether you're left or right. It it's just common sense apply common sense for for certain things that could also be used for other things. For example, you know, if you say you are women should be in sports, but men can be women, so therefore men can be in sports. Right? Mhmm. As women. Then a parallel argument would be, why not have a white person apply for university as a black person? Because by the same argument, men being women, it's easier to switch your racial culture, especially, depending on how you look and your your your background.
So I'm just into having things that you could apply common sense and rules that apply to everything in every scenario, and don't make an argument so complex because you want an outcome under one that you can't apply it to others. It's the same thing. To me, it makes more sense polygamy, than other arguments, but we know we're not allowed the countries to know its rules about polygamy. I'm not a polygamist. It's not, you know, what I would agree with, but everyone seems to agree that polygamy is not an issue. Mhmm. But yet gender issues are. It makes no sense. And if you just fundamentally look at things from a common sense perspective, base it off of what our founding fathers have thought to create a a constitution as a a foundation for where this country needs to go so that we don't repeat the mistakes of our past, I think we'll be fine. And I think, fortunately, for the most part for the most part, we've been able to succeed through a lot of those. But right now, I think we're at war with just common sense, and it just makes no sense. When my my children that are 11 and 13 can ask me something and understand something that an adult can't, that's when we have a problem.
And, remember during COVID, my son would say, why when we go to a restaurant, we have to put a mask on? But the second we sit down, we can take it off. And when we leave, we don't need it. How is that make any sense? But yet We did it. The government forces that on us. Yeah. So, you know, it's just if we go back and apply common sense for all, I think we'd be a lot better as a nation, rather than outcome driven and fine rules to get you there. I agree. I agree.
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I I had put up I don't know if you saw it, but I had put up on the screen there just to go back to what we're talking about, federal judge blocks Trump administration from deporting the terrorist suspect family. You know? Mhmm. That's where we are today. You have, you know, which I think is absolutely ridiculous as somebody who's in the legal profession to see all of these judges. These first of all, they're district judges. Yes. And I don't understand where they get the constitutional authority to to slap an injunction or or block something in Rhode Island that affects the entire not the entire country.
And something Mike Johnson had said, constitutionally, Congress has the authority to, to shut down the district courts and reform them. And he said and he said that he was going to do that. And it's been two months since he said that he was gonna do that, and I haven't heard a word about it since.
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Exactly. Well
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And that's what makes me worry. Problem. And that I'm I'm sorry. But that's what makes me worry for the midterms because, you know, the the voting base is gonna see this. They see the inactivity. They see the inaction on these things that they talk about. Oh, we're gonna do this. We're gonna do that. We're gonna get this done that done this one, and then nothing happens. You're running the risk of the base staying home at the midterms. Yeah. And then the the left takes control of the senate or they take control of the house or both, and then you're gonna have two years of nothing happening. Well, not that it would make a difference because nothing's really happening anyway. But
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nothing happening No. A lot a lot will happen, but it won't be good. Correct. I mean, with Trump's last two years in office, that's what you had. So we forget. And, you know, one of the things we said earlier in this show is, where is congress? Like, what happened? Are they on permanent vacation? I think the fact that the executive branch, the president's doing all these executive orders is you know, the the the issue is he has to do it because where is the legislative branch? They're they're stuck in their committees trying to, you know, determine whether a boy is a man or a girl or, whether you should use this pronoun or that pronoun versus making this country better and do what is most important for the bulk of the population.
Mhmm. Not what the far left or even the far right wants accomplished. Get accomplished if you could get 70 to 80% of America, what means what it means to them to be an American, you know, reduce inflation, create bills that stop, you know, our next generation from being in a situation where they have no future. Protect. Say police are there to protect us, and that's what their duty is. Right. Call a protester a protester, call a rioter a rioter. Right. Do the things that you really need to do to bring back common sense. The biggest issue that we've had over the last, I don't know, my lifetime, I'm 48, is that we've never had a congress do what congress is supposed to do. Correct. I I The executive branch is overreached, and now the Supreme Court has to balance that overreach with more overreach.
And the the the the the really, the truth behind it all is congress should be shamed. And if there's something that should change in congress, it should be congress first. Agree. Get term limits. Get people out. Do not have a reason that some have someone like a Joe Biden who never ever risked a single dollar of his own personal capital, make millions and hundreds of millions, probably, will never know, by using his political position Right. For power. And it shocks me how you have these people in congress living like that. Bernie Sanders saying it's everyone shouldn't fly private but him because it's important for him. So rules apply to those, but not to him. Right? Right. Yeah. Or Nancy Pelosi, insider trading. You know?
What what's your name? I went to jail for, for years I mean, for months, for insider trading. Meanwhile, Nancy Pelosi is the best stock trader in history.
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I think my camera just went out.
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Yeah. No. It's a nice, picture, though, you got. It looks kinda like the Grateful Dead.
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Wonderful. Hold on. Let me see if I can get it back here. This has been happening a little bit. There we go. Yeah. For some reason, it, the last couple of shows, it's been automatically flipping over to the OBS virtual camera, which I don't even know what that is. So I have no idea, but I apologize for that. But, yeah, who went to jail for insider trading with, what's her name?
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Yeah. She's now with Snoop Dogg, and she had, Martha Stewart. Martha Stewart. Yeah. Yeah. And, James Comey was the one that did that, is she? Nobody noticed about that. Nobody talks about that. No. No. Which it which it's it's it's amazing.
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And, hey. Speaking of Comey, what do you think about his, of his whole $86.47 thing? Of course I think I don't think it's gonna go anywhere. I think it's No. Dead in the water. But, I love the excuse that he used that it was his wife.
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Did did you catch that? I didn't catch that one. I thought he was on the beach, and somebody put it there, and he thought, hey. That's funny. But then I heard him use this excuse about the, he came from the restaurant business, and 86 means to to stop,
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or, like, we're out of this. So, like, get rid of the present, not kill him. Yeah. No. But just, you know And and I I start over. Do you know do you know what the what that the 86 means? I mean, what it breaks down to? The eight and the six have a meaning. No. I I never thought about it. It's, eight miles out, six feet under. Oh, really? Wow. You take you take them eight eight miles out of the city, and you put them six feet under. Wow. And so I'm a Sicilian, so I know these things.
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Oh, there you go.
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But, yeah. No. It it's and that's that's disturbing thing too is you you have those thing you have those those comments being made. You have those, and you have someone like James Comey who has a voice. You know? He's he's not an unknown person. If he does have a following, strangely enough, Yeah. You know, and then you have all these copycats. I think Kash Patel said last week that that they've had to, redirect agents from from looking for the all these missing kids to responding to copycats of James Comey, putting up the eighty six forty seven stuff. Yeah. You know?
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Yep. And, I mean, if you look at the, what's going on with the pro Hamas anti Israel movement that, has penetrated this nation. It's just it's it's completely mind boggling. But This is all This is open borders. It's it's open borders, and it's also this movement to support anything but common sense. I mean, you have a movement that's queers for Palestine, but they queers for Palestine, those people can't live in Palestine because they would be killed. Thrown off a roof. Yeah. Yeah. Thrown off a roof. It's just mind boggling that they're supporting the country or the the part of the country that's anti, equal rights where they can live freely in Israel. They could march. They could protest. It's kind of like here in America.
The only country in the Middle East like that for that matter, but they're supporting that because of a movement. Mhmm. And when you start demonizing Israel and you're saying boycott, divest, sanction with this whole BDS movement you've been doing for years, that's all the undertone is just antisemitism. And I don't like that word, antisemitism, because I don't think people know what it means. It's Jewish hatred. Okay? Let's call it what it is. It's people don't like Jews, and they use these tropes that, you know, the the the they're bankers or they control the weather and this and that. And You may know. You're from New York, Florida, there's a lot of Jews. But outside three areas of this country, there are parts of this country where people have never met a Jew Right. Yet they have a lot of hatred towards them.
And you allow that ideal that that that, hatred succeed on a college campus and universities nationwide. Harvard being the bastion of all universities. Like, they're it's it's it's the, you know, I have a son that I'm now saying, what school or my daughter, what school do I want him or her to go to? Because it's no longer Harvard. Yeah. But now all of a sudden, people are getting killed because of these ideologies and these racist undertones. And there's certain racism that's accepted and others aren't. Black lives matter, perfect peaceful protest. January 6, insurrection.
Yet there are a lot more people that died during the Black Lives Matter movement than they did on January 6. That's right. But, yeah, we forget that because it's not a convenient truth because it's
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based on common sense It doesn't fit the narrative. Is
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yeah. It doesn't fit the narrative.
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We don't look that way. No. Of course not. And that and that's the that's the scary thing too because I I think that I I just don't see it getting any better.
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No. So when I'm not practicing law, I run a a charity called the American Rights Alliance. It was actually, the first donor was Donald Trump junior who donated the money he made from the sale of t shirts that was raised after his father's worst day when he he had his mug shot. Mhmm. And that's what funded the charity. And what we're fighting for will blow your mind on what we say, whether it be January 6 cases or, people in jail for things that you would never ever think of for being Americans. I don't know if you follow the Tina Peters case. It's here's a, woman, a supervisor of elections in Colorado that is in jail right now because they mandated her to erase the computers, the data, after the twenty twenty election, and which was illegal. They forced her to do an illegal activity, and she refused and was a whistleblower, and now she's in jail. Jeez.
But we're not talking about that because we are more concerned over an illegal immigrant that beat the shit out of his wife a few times from what I understand. That from what I understand on his knuckles, it says MS 13. Yep. And we have congress that are not doing anything in congress, but they're flying to the, you know, to to, El Salvador and making this guy the next George Floyd. Yeah. Sipping margaritas. I mean, there's one thing in common with these two people. The left speak for women's rights, but they support women beaters, wife beaters.
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Makes no sense. They they speak for women's rights, but they allow boys to compete as women.
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Correct. Yes. Yeah. So
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it it's just it's it's a very strange world that we live in. It it I I don't know where you stand religiously or or what your beliefs are, but there is a there is a passage in in in the Old Testament where, and I'm I'm gonna mangle it because I'm gonna paraphrase it. But, you know, you know, it does talk about a time when, you know, what's right will be wrong, what's dark will be light, and, what would be sin would be righteous. And, you know, it it's it and we're in that time. You know? We're in that time. And, it's it's a it's a very scary, scary thing.
But, as far as, like, like like, Israel goes, you know, I I I support Israel, you know, from a a religious back, point of view, a spiritual point of view. I don't necessarily agree with them politically. You know? I think, sometimes I I think that there is the, you know, that that whole globalist agenda with Israel is just as much it is here in The United States. I think, you know, when you talk about term limits, you know, Netanyahu's been been involved in in in leadership in the country for how many years now? Yeah.
I remember him back in the eighties and the nineties. You know? And from what I understand, I have I have a good friend who lives in in Israelis. He's Israeli. And, he's he basically told me recently that, you know, public sentiment about Netanyahu is not good right now. And if if there were to be an election right now, he would lose that election. He would lose that coalition that he that he has. You know, so it it's tough, but, you know, you may not agree with them politically, but it doesn't mean you go out there and and and kill every one of them. You know? It's it's not I don't think that's the answer.
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Well, I mean, it's definitely not the answer, but the the the challenge that you have in Israel is that you have one group of people that their only form of peace is if the other group is completely, you know,
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wiped off this Earth. Right. K? And that's And the other group of people And that's just just to to bring up a quick point. That's what that whole phrase of, you know, from from the river to the sea From the river to the sea. Yeah. Is all about. And people here don't really, you know, the the the mindless students of these colleges and universities that are there, they just chant it over and over and over again without really understanding what that is. You're talking about the annihilation of a pea of an entire people.
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Yeah. But you say it in a different way. Mhmm. And, and it's okay. And so you have one group that has done the biggest mistake was they they gave in, and they gave an area called Palestine back, right, or back or to them because it I don't wanna go in that argument because when when does one country start and when does Yeah. Right. Did it? I mean, if you go back, I mean, the the the the Bible talks about Israel as the chosen people, the Israelites, the Jews, and it's right there. I mean, we have evidence. If you have religion in your heart, you're Jewish, Christian.
I think even in, in Islam. The Quran says that In the Quran, it's it's it states that. Yep. But but, anyway, if you say, okay. At this time, it was this country, therefore, it's this country now. But here in this country, then we don't yet give back Native Americans the country for the same reason. Right? Mhmm. But we find a way to coexist. So I guess in Israel, they tried to figure out how you can coexist when the Asara effect, they gave him everything, 99% of what he asked for and still didn't accept. Mhmm. You have a group that does not want peace. They want annihilation. And they gave them land without really a reason or a road map for peace. Nothing.
And within eight years, I think, a terrorist organization took over, and now we have Hamas there. Where why would Israel be better off given or or or given into anything? Mhmm. Look where they are now. Look what happened. So how do you end the war right now without the annihilation of one or the other? Because this is just gonna happen until somebody gets a dirty bomb or an atomic bomb or some sort of, destruction. At
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at what point is it too late? Yeah. Well, I think at this point, I mean, it's it is too I mean, I I think it's beyond just, okay. We're gonna stop. We're not gonna do this, you know, the book of ceasefire, you know, truce and unless I I think it's unfortunately, it's come to that point where it's gonna be one or the other. I don't like the idea of that, but I think that's where it is.
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I mean and then if you if you follow the Bible, when the when the Jews left with Moses from Egypt to Israel, Moses and his people never got to Israel. They they stood next to it. And the reason for that was that they were slave mentality. God did not want slave mentality going into Israel because it would have been just another problem. Mhmm. So he wanted the new generation with new ideas coming in to, you know, take, you know, to to to create this holy land for chosen people or whatever you wanna call it. And you have a similar situation right now. Like, you can't make peace with a group of people where the next generation has grown up from the second that they're born, that they're martyrs if they commit suicide as long as they destroy others in the process. That's very true. And it's a mentality from the second you were born. So how do you fix that? And I have friends that served overseas in Afghanistan and in Iraq, and they said it's the same problem there.
That you can't give democracy to somebody who doesn't understand it. You know, their whole lives from the second they were born, they were led to believe something. It's kinda like taking a Catholic or a Jew or anyone else and saying, you're wrong. We're gonna teach you a different way of thinking because God is not what you think. It's the same exact issue. Yeah. There from the second they were born, they were led to believe something. And now you're gonna change it for the sense of freedom, but they don't want freedom because they don't know what it is. That's right. Yeah. And also And now you have a And also democracy
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or or a republican form of government is not compatible with their religious laws, the Sharia law. No. You know? So Yeah. It it can't. So it it yeah. It's it's it's a tough situation there. I mean, I I don't know what the outcome of that's gonna be. You know, some of the some of the models, especially with what's going on with Ukraine right now, they're they're talking about, you know, Putin said today that, told, president Trump that, he has to respond to the attack that took place over the weekend, that he has to. And I understand that. You know? I mean, what would we do as as The United States if that that happened to us? You know? Right.
Much like it did, 09:11. You know, we went in and Mhmm. Not saying we were right in what we did there because it was I I don't even think we we we, followed the map of where the cause of the problem was in 09:11. No. We didn't. No. That's what I mean. That's like, you know, we didn't Yeah. Go after the root problem. We we just went someplace else, you know. But Yeah. But there was a response. That was my point. Yeah. Pearl Harbor for us, there was a response. You know? Mhmm. So you really can't look at at at Putin and say, no. You can't do this or you shouldn't do it. He, you know, he he is the president of his country. He's the leader of his country. He has to make a decision, and he cannot he I I agree with I I I don't like to agree with him, but, you know, I agree that he has to have some kind of a response to it. And then the question is Mhmm. What is that response gonna be?
Yeah. You know? And one of the models that that had have come up was, a limited nuclear strike, which, god, I don't wanna see that. Because then what because then what's gonna happen? It's gonna just totally escalate, and you're gonna have India and Pakistan shooting at each other. Two two nuclear powers. I mean, they came how close to it just a couple of months ago. Not even a couple of months ago. Couple weeks ago. Yeah. You know, you know, they'd have Iran and Israel, two nuclear powers. Mhmm. You know, it it's it's just gonna it's it's just gonna escalate. Honestly, I I sometimes I feel like I I I wish that our country was more isolationist.
You know? I know. It just just leave us alone. Just it's just Yeah. You guys kill yourselves. Fine. Let's stay out of it. But I know But
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that can't happen. And, World War two is if you follow World War two, we we tried to be isolationist. And then countries like England got attacked and France got attacked, and then they saw us as weakness. And then the Japanese, I mean, they came very close to beating us. We don't even know that as Americans and historians. If they continued after Pearl Harbor and continued going west, rather than just waiting to see how we would respond
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I think they were planning a land invasion,
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in California. So yeah. Yeah. And they thought that a land invasion one of the things that's funny is I don't know how true this is. I I heard this from an historian. I just never validated it. Was that they were concerned that if they had an extensive land invasion across the country, the country is so big, and you have a population that's all armed. Yep.
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Yeah. They said So there you go. Second Amendment. Yeah. They said there there was a there was a there was a a a firearm behind every blade of grass. Yeah. That was the that was the comment. Yeah. Oh, I love this stuff. I love I love talking about this stuff. So, Yeah. The, yeah. And exactly, the second amendment, you know, and yet you have these pushes of, you know, of the far left who wanted to disarm everybody. And look look look look how that works out in England. You know? Yeah. You know, they disarmed everybody, but yet they all these knife attacks and baseball bat attacks and, you know, you know, man will find a way to kill each other.
Exactly. And who said that? Was that Jurassic Park? I think you said that. You know, nature will find a way to kill each other. It's it's it's funny how sometimes the the the the most,
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incredible sayings come from the most ridiculous situations. Like, my favorite saying of all time is quote is from Mike Tyson, and it's so true. People have a plan until they get punched in the face. Yep.
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And it and it you know what? As as, you know, as as off as it might be, you know, from the source, at least, you know, it it's a very true statement. You know, everything Yeah. Everything goes well until until something happens that that derails you. And if you don't have a backup plan, then you're totally screwed. Yeah. You know? But, it's, I I do I do worry that, you know, like, you know, we had four years of wide open borders. You don't know who's in the country. You saw what happened this weekend with, with the Colorado guy. I shouldn't even use that because the the the media is not even using that yet. I shouldn't I shouldn't use it. Yeah.
But, with this terrorist in in Colorado, an Egyptian national, you know, overstayed his visa, you know, so he's here illegally. You know, Molotov cocktails, a flamethrower, you know, it it it's it's you don't know what's coming through. And and I I remember seeing and I I I wish I would have thought of it earlier. I would have looked for a a picture or something of it. But, they there was they they stopped somebody at the border and got him on camera talking about, you know, not knowing what was coming. And and it was like he was identified as a known terrorist.
Mhmm. But yet, you know, why did this administration or the previous administration why did they allow that? Why did they allow millions of people coming through the border not getting vetted, not being checked, not knowing who they are or where they're going? I I saw something here. Let me let me grab this. Let me see if I can find it.
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As you look for it, I think the answer is, simple. It's because that's your future voter base. Simple as that. Yeah. It's how do you keep yourself in power. And history will tell. Hopefully Found it. This will work in our favor. But I think over time, history will tell that they got this close. Just like during, JFK, how close we went to nuclear war, this country would have been overthrown just by one election,
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because I don't think if Trump want Trump didn't win this election, I don't think this country would have ever recovered. Oh, no. No. The it was done. It was completely done. I was trying to screen share it, but it's not letting me. So, Tom Homan said, today, that he's convinced that there's gonna be a major terrorist attack in The United States as a direct result of, Joe Biden's open border policies. He said it's it's coming, adding that there were 2,000,000 gotaways who crossed the border during Biden's tenure. So why did 2,000,000 illegal aliens pay more to get away? They could have paid half of what they paid to cross the border, turn themselves into border patrol agents, get released the same day, get a free airline ticket to the city of their choice, get a free hotel room, get three meals a day plus free medical care and work authorization, but yet 2,000,000 people paid more to get away.
They didn't wanna be vetted. They didn't wanna be fingerprinted. Why? And he went on to say that this scares the hell out of me, and I've been doing this for forty years. Yeah. So and that that's it's just it it just boggles the mind. And then again, of course, you know, it also leans into, you know, did Joe Biden even know what was going on?
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I mean, yeah, it's a great question. Or, what was it or what wasn't he thinking, if thinking at all? I think he was just more concerned about not defecating in his pants and how to get off the stage. Yeah. But you know? And he had his wife kinda like a mother figure, not a not a a wife, saying, oh, you did so good. He spoke so eloquently. I remember that. His last debate. Oh, yeah. That was so embarrassing. As an as an American, that was so embarrassing to see that, you know I mean, I would be so pissed off if my wife or more significant others said to to me, you did so well, which meant that she was such a she had no expectation Yeah. Whatsoever.
And since he didn't shit in his pants and he found his way off the stage, those are the two accomplishments he has. Exactly.
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This this actually came in today too. The justice department launches investigation to Biden's pardons. So let's see let's see just what Pam Bondi does with this and see how long this takes.
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Yeah. I mean, you you said something earlier about Pam Bondi, and, I've had the pleasure of meeting Pam Bondi and spending time with her. I think there's a lot more than we know. I really do. I mean, just to take to Jeffrey Epstein, take the fact that, you had Cash Patel and Dan Bongino saying that he killed himself when you know? Maybe he did, but it just doesn't add up. Right? So maybe there's something more that they have to do to hide, to protect, to shield. Who knows? That's what I think. It's just I I think they're I think
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they I I don't I don't think that's the that's the official narrative that they're keeping to. Right. I don't think that that's I don't think they necessarily believe that or that's necessarily true. I just think that's the official narrative they're putting out there.
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Yeah. And and they're stuck in you know, again, I could come up with, you know, 10 different conspiracy theories about why they're doing this, but, you know, I don't think we'll ever know. Just like what caused who caused the assassination of JFK?
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Right. No. Actually, I I like Dan Bongino. I do. I I was I'm a fan. You know, I I used to watch his his show all the time. Yeah. You know, I've been doing I've been doing podcasts since 2016. I started with a little Internet radio show. We used to call them Internet radio back then. In 2016 with a couple of friends, you know, up in New York, and we had a, you know, similar type show as this. But, you know, there was three of us, so it you know, the the play back and forth was great. And we had a good balance. I was the conservative voice. My my friend Jay was the liberal voice, and then we had another Joe who was the, the libertarian voice. So, you know, we had a really good little dialogue. It was a lot of fun.
Yeah. And then, and then I came here to Texas, so we we stopped doing the show. And then I started doing another podcast about three years ago, which it was mostly it wasn't politics at all. It was mostly, like, bible study stuff. And, the, but I I was constantly you know, Bongino is a big my long story of the story is Bongino is the is kinda like my like, kinda motivated me to well, you know what? Let's let's let's start something like that. Let's try something like that, you know, and get back into the politics and and all that. And so, you know, I have a lot of respect for him and his career. You know, we both served in law enforcement in in New York. I mean, I didn't work with him or anything like that. We were two different agencies, you know, separate in different time period. But, I have a lot of respect for him and his background and a lot of things on the show. He's always talking about, you know, there's more to the story than than what meets the eye. You know, he's one of the he was one of those guys that, you know, was like Mhmm. I don't have to be first. I just have to be right. And, you know, and I respected that, and I still do. And I and I think that's a great way to to do things. So I do have a lot of respect for him. I don't know Kash Patel very well. I just know what I know from what I've seen, you know, more recently than prior to.
You know? So, you know, I just feel like, oh, I just I just I I wish that that that they didn't have the, the muzzle on, if you know what I mean. And, all the things that he was talking about on his show, he was able to produce fast. But then again, like I said earlier, I did work in investigations and law enforcement. I understand you can't always talk about everything, you know. And the same thing with Pam Bondi too. I mean, I don't have anything personally about her, you know. I'm just pointing out the things that I've seen as far as, you know, it seems like she's on the new circuits more than anything else.
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Yeah. And I think, her position is she she she's the the ringleader of that job, and she's counting on her staff to do things. But you want the message to be heard, and you also wanna understand what's going on and what why we're doing what we're doing. So I I get it. I don't think it's something that, she enjoys being in front of a camera more than she enjoys being in the office. I I I I don't get that vibe from her. That's what she's bad about. It's just a matter of maybe what the president wants her to do. Like, we need we need people like, if we have the fake news out there, we need, the leaders of the, you know, executive branch in in in particular to to get as much press time as possible so that we can control the narrative.
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I'm not saying that's true. I'm just saying that there's more to it that meets the eye. Yeah. It's logical, and that that's good too. And that and that that's something I didn't consider before. So, you know, I appreciate that. It it's I I like I said, I just wanna see and I I know a lot of the base wants to see more action
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from the administration. Yeah. I mean, and I was very frustrated when she's like, tomorrow, Pam Bondi, tomorrow, you're gonna see all of this stuff. We're gonna unleash all the Jeff Jeffrey Epstein files. And tomorrow came and went. And it's like, where where where where was that? Like, what did we find out that other than he committed suicide? Mhmm. Like, where is the list of all the people that went to the island other than you can think of and speculate? Again, conspiracy theorists theories, but there may be some people that are I don't wanna say our side. It's that that's in office right now or that is, you know, part of, you know, making America great again, that may have been caught up in there. Yeah. Well Just saying. What what what could it be?
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That brings more reason, more suspicion. Sure. Absolutely. And yet they're not addressing it. Yeah. And I I agree with that. I I and but but then again, even if it was somebody on our side Mhmm. You know, it it it it was criminal activity that needs to be brought out and needs to be exposed. I lost you. Alright. Well, I think there he is. Waiting for him to reconnect. So, folks, while waiting for, Evan to reconnect, we've been talking with Evan Turk. Hope you guys have been enjoying this conversation. This has been, very enlightening.
And, really, really am enjoying this. So, hopefully, we'll be able to get him to connect again. Just waiting for him to turn his camera on. So, again, we've been talking with Evan Turk, who is a, a well known legal authority, various various aspects of law, family law, wealth strategies. He's an author, entrepreneur. He's the founder of the American Rights Alliance, and, we've been having this great conversation, and, unfortunately, I think we lost him. So we'll see. But, in the meantime, folks, don't forget to head over to our website, joeroos.com. Joeroos.com.
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a message.
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And I think we're off too. There he is. Alright. I think we got this straightened out. Let me turn the camera back on. Right? There we go.
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Can you hear me? Can you hear me? Yes. I can. Yes. I can. Yeah. I was there, and then I wasn't there. But then I heard you speaking highly of me. So I was like, should I go on? Go Yes. Of course. Of course. Yeah. It's it's always good to put a face to the to the to the to the why. So it's it's going on. I was like, I didn't say anything that offensive yet. No. No. Not yet anyway.
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There's nothing you could say that would be offensive on this show. Trust me. Yes. Yes. Go go back go back a couple of shows and and take a look at some of the conversations I've had with some guests. It's a lot of fun. I That absolutely keeps you on your toes. Right? Oh, for sure. But like I said, I don't I I I have a a, anything and everything type philosophy about this thing. We'll talk about whatever, wherever, however, doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. Like, as you could see I don't know if you see it on your end or not, but, you know, the the the tens of people that are watching. So Mhmm. Right now.
We do better actually, with, on the audio. I have a a bigger following on the audio and on the downloads or the plays after the live show. I think it's because of the time that I can do it. And the reason why I don't have to do it this time is I have a regular job, so I I work, you know, eight to five. And by the time I get out of work and to sit down in front of the studio to set the whole thing up and all that stuff, you know, it goes by pretty fast. So one of those things.
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No. I get it. I get it. I, I have that work thing too that I have to do every day. Doesn't that suck?
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Yeah.
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It does. But at least I get to enjoy what I do. I'm, you know, especially when you travel and you see and you leave this country, you realize how blessed you are to to have something that you could come home to.
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Very true. Very true. And, yeah. And and I know this has nothing to do with leaving the country, but, I went to New York, to to see to see my sister for Thanksgiving, like, a year or two ago, and I hadn't been up there for a while. And just how different New York was compared to what it was when I remembered when I left. And Mhmm. I'm gonna be honest with you. When I I could not wait to get the hell out of there. You know? Even though I was born there, I was just raised, I grew up there, that's my you know, my whole life is there. I could not wait to get back to Texas.
You know? And, I was
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I was talking to And at the fact of New York, I I I I go there. It's it's it's always been my hometown even though I haven't been there for forever. But I go there three times a year. I was there. Last time I was there was New Year's. Mhmm. And I think it's I think you should go back. I think it's gotten a little bit, more of what it used to be, versus what it was.
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Well, I'll go back for a visit, but not not to live. What's that? I'll go back for a visit, but I'll go back for a visit. No. Definitely not. Not to live. Like, I was telling a friend of mine, you know, once you get to because he was like, I don't understand why why would you leave New York? New York has this, this, this, this, and I say, I say, but Texas has freedom.
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Yeah.
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And, a better tax system. You're not paying for other people's problems. That's true. Yep. Yep. No state income tax here. You know, you you you keep more of your money. Yeah. And that's why I'm hoping that, that that president Trump goes through this promise there and, getting rid of the tax on overtime. And,
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I remember he said something about abolishing the IRS. You You know, I'm hoping that I know he didn't use those words, but, you know, that's that's kind of Yeah. I mean I mean, it just I have my own opinions on, the tax code and what it does and how you can make it better, but,
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nobody's really called me up and asked for my my my personal opinion on that matter. So I'll I'll ask you your I'll ask you your opinion on that matter. Go right ahead.
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Put you on the spot. Keeping your toes. You have to understand monetary policy, and you have to also realize that you have Florida. Let's just choose taxes because it's the same system. No tax. Right? Mhmm. You go to New York or let's choose California. You know? We can bash California. Neither one of us is from there. Okay? Correct. Yep. You have California. You have taxes upon taxes upon taxes, and yet you have more homeless people in California than any place on this in this country. You have cities like San Francisco that nobody can go to Mhmm. Because it's been taken over by, not only homeless, but just a philosophy that's anti American, anti capitalism. How do you justify feces in front of storefronts, with homeless people there and calling the cops and the cops don't do jack shit?
But yet you're paying more tax to live in that country, in that state. Mhmm. If you're at your highest level living in California, you're making a million dollars a year, over $500,000 is going to the government or the state more than 50%. And what are you getting in return? You're getting spit upon. You're not even a thank you card. The IRS or the, California's, taxes. I don't know what it's called there. It doesn't send you a letter to say thank you for that $500,000 check you just sent us, and this is how the money is gonna be used. Right? Take Texas or Florida. You know, I grew up in New Jersey, visited New York a lot. It's my where my family's from.
It's cleaner here. It's safer here. Mhmm. It's freer definitely freer. I mean, you wanna see freedom. During COVID, you understood what it meant to live under, in in the state of Florida versus what was happening throughout the rest of the country. And, DeSantis got it right, and, freedom prevailed in in in Florida. And yet in New York, you have children or in California. You pay all this money in taxes, and you can't even bring your kids to school for, what, two years in California in some jurisdictions. Yeah.
And, you know, you you you take away everyone's freedom for no one's benefit except large governments, large institutions, and, you take away capitalism there. You take away the bigger businesses there. All the businesses that really wanna be there and stay there have left. And, you know, fortunately or unfortunately in Texas, they moved. And hopefully, they don't vote like they did in California. I know. There there there are billboards all over Texas saying don't California my Texas, you know, and all that stuff. Yeah. So it's
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yeah. I think people here in Texas are are very well aware of Yeah. I mean, where are you from? You're not from Austin because I don't think they're aware in that city. No. I I'm actually right now, I live in Eagle Pass, so I'm on the border. Okay. I'm right there on the border. I'm I'm actually about less than two miles away from, Shelby Park where that standoff took place Okay. Between the feds and the and the local, and state police and whatnot. So, yeah. So it's been very interesting. I like it here. I do. It's a, you know, it's a small town. It's only about 30,000 people. Mhmm. I do miss some things about New York. I miss, I I miss the variety of Mhmm. Nighttime options.
You know, here Right. Everything closes by 09:00. You know? So so if you work late and you wanted to get something to eat, there's no diner you can go to, like, you know, corner diner or something like that and Yeah. And whatnot. And and probably one of the more depressing things when I first moved here, I like to cook. Cooking is like my my my release. So, I was gonna make this really nice Italian dish. It was a fettuccine with sweet peas, prosciutto, and a white wine sauce. Alright? Right. So I went to the local soup. There's only two places really here that, you know, like big supermarkets. You had HEB and you have, Walmart.
So, I went there, and I was like, alright. So I go I'm looking around. I'm like, alright. Well, I go to the deli counter. I say, I need a I need a quarter pound of prosciut, then sliced. And they were like, what's that?
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Exactly. I remember, I was in before I moved down to Florida, I was in South Carolina near Myrtle Beach out of Piggly Wiggly. Mhmm. And I I I'm gonna I'm I'm not good at accents, but the accent was wonderful. It was just the lady at the deli said, she goes, she goes, city boy, you gotta talk slower down here.
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Yes.
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Because I said, like, you know, growing up in Jersey, same thing in New York. You'll say, like, I'll take a quarter pound of turkey, half a pound of roast beef, and a pound of American. Yep. She couldn't
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one at a time. Way too fast. Yeah. I know. I know. And, well There's fortunately,
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where I'm from, I I'm in Boca Raton, and, it's they call it the, part of the tri state area of, New York, New Jersey, and and Boca Raton. So you could go to the Publix here, or you could go to the bagel store, and you have bagels at stores that are from New York. I mean, they taste, you always say New York bagels taste better, but you forget what they taste. You go to New York, they're like to me, they're the same. I'm I'm I'm blessed and cursed. I don't have a skilled taste bud. But bagels, they have Taylor ham or which is a Jersey thing. It's not even a New York thing, but it's just I don't know. Do you know what Taylor ham or pork roll is? Oh, yeah. Yeah. For sure. Okay. So growing up in New Jersey, especially if you had a a couple of drinks the night before or the next day, you want some grease in your system. You get a Taylor ham, egg, and cheese on a bagel. Mhmm. And, you forget you go out on the West Coast Of Florida or or other parts. You don't have that. No. And what drives me nuts is that bagels, they have I get in everything, so they're seated on both sides because that's what it's like growing up in the Northeast. Yeah. Here in Boca, it's the same thing. You'd be shocked to see see it's only on one side. But you go out West in the same state, like, how do they get away with this? Like, because I like to eat my bagels one on one, not as a sandwich.
And just all the things you get in New Jersey. You have pizza, you have brick oven pizza, coal fired pizza. If you wanna go to Miami, you're forty five minutes. That's our New York. It stays awake, stays open. There's a train walking distance from my place called the Bright Line. You can go forty five minutes tops, maybe thirty five minutes. Go right to Miami or in the heart of Miami. Go the other way, fifteen minutes here in Downtown West Palm Beach. You could go to Mar A Lago, be there in twenty minutes. I mean, it's really convenient here. You get the best of everything, plus you get the weather.
So there's really no reason to to to want or miss that area except, you'll never go take a subway to a Yankee game. Mhmm. It's it's not going to a Marlins game is never the same. Of course. I mean, you know, I I always joke. Like, if I didn't wanna wear clothes to a Marlins game, nobody would notice because nobody's there. Right. But the Yankees do play there every couple of years. They they come down. So you get to see the Yankees. If you're a Mets fan, they're always there. Yep. But it's not the same. But those are the things or Broadway in New York or Times Square or, you know, seeing your friends, having a barbecue.
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It's it's different down there. Barbecue is that's that's a staple here. This is, you know, that's all they that's all we do here is just barbecue. But, or they here they call it cookouts. So, but, but just to go no bagels here. There's no bagel shops here. If you want if you want a bagel, you gotta buy one of those prepackaged ones, like some Thomas's or something like that. Yeah. Cannot get Italian bread here? No. No. Not at all.
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What do they call them? Their sandwiches? Hoagies, grinders, subs? Subs. Or Subs. Subs.
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And then, like pizza, I I found one place here that makes decent pizza compared to the other stuff that I've had. Because the other stuff that's here is just like the the the chain stuff, like Domino's and Yeah. Yeah. Little Caesar's and places like that. But, there's one place here local, and, a good friend of mine is a is the co owner of it. So so I I was able to check it out and really good stuff, really good food. And, again, not home, but, you know, it's what it is. But, yeah, I I remember I that the first time I I I made a a handmaiden cheese sandwich with the bagel. Yeah. You know, it had to be one of the Thomas's ones, but I made that. And, my wife at the time, she was like she goes, what is that?
I'm like Yeah. It's a ham, egg, and cheese. You've never had that? No? Oh my god. Yeah. Here.
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Eat. I know. You know? It's so funny. It's so funny. And, the one thing you find in Florida that's that's different is it's, there's nothing authentic down here. So there's not like I mean, you could go to Miami and there's Cuban food, and there's a lot of, Hispanic cuisine there that's that's our authentic food, but that's not authentic to Florida. That's
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I get you.
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Yeah. No. I get you. But, like so it's funny when people come down here, I'm like, there's never let me teach show you an authentic anything here. I mean, everything's new here. I mean, there's growing up in New Jersey, I grew up outside Morristown where George Washington in the winter winter months stayed there. I know. I didn't know during the revolutionary work because before I was a history buff when I was five, six, seven, eight years old. All you see all all over that area, George Washington slept here. I'm like, what did this guy do? He just slept everywhere. Yeah. He kinda gets around. Right? He just went to people's houses and said, I'm sleeping here. I know. But but you have that history, and you really have little his I mean, you have history here. You have Henry Flagler history who founded this area.
You have Addison Mizner, but it's all nineteen twenties and for the most part and thereafter. Gotcha. So New York, I mean, or New Jersey, you'd see things that were there during the foundation of America. And then you you really put things in perspective. I mean, that's American history. It was just in Europe, and you see it's something there that's been there for it was in Prague, and you're like, oh, that was built 500 or 800 years ago. And Yeah. It's it's it's amazing.
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Here, the the the the closest big city to me is San Antonio, and that's two and a half hours away.
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Yeah. We have, it's funny. The COO of the American Rights Alliance is from your area. So when he flies out, it's he's in between Austin and San Antonio, so he has to fly out of San Antonio. Yeah. Austin is four hours away. I guess you yeah. I guess you're, a Spurs fan then and, no.
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No. I don't I don't follow I don't follow basketball at all. I just don't. I never got into it. But, you have to be a Dallas Cowboys fan. You know, that's that's a given. But my my New York team, if you wanna call it a New York team, is the Jets. I've been a I've been a Jets fan since I'm a kid. I'm a Mets fan since a kid. Yeah. My my my dad very disappointed in me, you know, because my dad was a big time Yankees fan. And, I always tell this story. I gotta tell you this story. My so my so one Father's Day, I wanted to get something really special for my dad. So I went to the MLB shop, and I bought him, an authentic field jersey, fitted hat, and all that stuff, packaged it all up. And I bring it over to the house, and, I'm sitting there, like, all giddy, like a little like a little school kid. Dad's opening up the package, and he when he gets to the jersey, he opens up, and he holds it up, and it's says Boston on it with his name on the back with a big number one stitched in, you know, field jersey with a fitted Boston Red Sox hat.
And he just looked at me. He was like, Joseph. He goes, this is great. Thank you. Thank you. Gives me a big hug and a big kiss, puts it all back in the box, takes it into the kitchen, he walks out of the room with it. And I sat there, looked at my mom, and I was like, well, that that didn't go quite the way I thought it was gonna go. So she goes, yeah. She goes, no. That didn't. And I was like, well, I did. Is he alright? Does he feel okay? She's just I was like, oh, oh, no. He's fine. He's good. And I'm sitting there talking to my mom for about a good ten minutes or so, and then and then I'm like, well, where is he? Where did he go? Because, you know, the house isn't that big, you know, where one room away. What happened to him? So I get up and I go to look, and and he's not in the house. He's out in the backyard. He's sitting at he has a little table out there. He has, you know, all his big his garden. He loves his garden. Loved his garden.
And, he's sitting out there, and he's reading a book. So, alright. I go out. Hey, dad. What's going on? Got a fire going? He goes, yep. I looked down on the fire. What's in the fire? The Red Sox jersey, the Red Sox hat, all that stuff. I was like, dad, what are you doing? Because you have much how much that cost? And And he goes, well, who's more the fool then?
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Yeah. That's a good point. And I was like,
[01:42:04] Unknown:
alright. But that that was my dad. And, Yeah. You know, but it you know, we used to have a lot of fun like that. We used to do all kinds of crazy stuff, like, just to torment each other, you know.
[01:42:14] Unknown:
Yeah. So so since you're a match, Jets fan, are you originally from Long Island? Or is No. I was born and raised in Brooklyn? Oh, yeah. That's right. You said Brooklyn.
[01:42:23] Unknown:
I was born and raised grew up in Sheepshead Bay, Brooklyn. And, Randazzo's Clambar and all that stuff. The original Randazzo's Clambar and all that great stuff. And then, I, I I worked for New York City, and I worked I worked in every borough except the Bronx, I think. I mean, it was the only borough I didn't work in. Yeah. You you live in Staten Island, the forgotten borough? I lived in Staten Island until I moved to Texas. Yeah. So Oh, yeah. That's right. You said that.
[01:42:51] Unknown:
So I was Yeah. It's it's funny. My girlfriend's a she was a former Dolphins cheerleader. Oh. But, she made the the headlines because, one of her clients, she does, public relations, and one of her clients, has a contract. They do the watches for the New York Jets. I mean, for the NFL, but they have a special contract with the New York Jets. So she had to put on all the Jets uniforms and jerseys and everything else. And, you know, the the newspapers had a field day with it. Like, she brought her former, Dolphins cheerleaders all wearing Jets clothes, and it's quite funny. And then she's, you know, doesn't know much about football, which just makes it funny. Which that is weird. You think they would. You know?
Yeah. And she's there with this picture, and she's like, who is this guy? I I I he was the nicest guy, and I couldn't figure out for the life of me. It was Wanker Bet. So
[01:43:48] Unknown:
Nice.
[01:43:49] Unknown:
You know, she was like, Sven, then there was, Vinnie Testaverde. She met him and his wife, and she's like, oh, it's such a nice guy. Here's a picture. I'm like, I can't remember who he was. I mean, I guess as you get older, you just, you know, forget. You know? Yeah. Yeah. Jets were never good when Vinnie. No. I like your The Jets. The the song Vinny and the Jets instead of Benny and the Jets.
[01:44:12] Unknown:
Oh, the the Jets haven't been good for quite a while.
[01:44:17] Unknown:
But the one thing I I I will say about Jets fans, If you meet a Jets fan, you know that person's loyal.
[01:44:24] Unknown:
Yes.
[01:44:25] Unknown:
I mean, 1969 was the last time they won you have you weren't born in '69. You've never seen them win a Super Bowl. Nope. Nope. Their best quarterback is Joe Namath. Broadway Joe. They could have had Dan Marino. They chose Kenny O'Brien.
[01:44:43] Unknown:
Yep. Let me let let me let me blow you away with something else. Do do you know who I'm related to? Wayne Cabret? No. No. No. No. Older than that. He's a he's a guy he he's the guy that that they named the NFL trophy after.
[01:45:00] Unknown:
The, Vince Lombardi trophy?
[01:45:04] Unknown:
Vince Lombardi is a cousin of mine. Really? Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Wow. So, you know, growing up, you know, even though you had your Jets stuff, or at least I had mine, my dad was a Giants fan. Everything my dad did, I was the opposite. My Jets Yeah. Jets, Giants, Mets, Yankees. Yeah. You know, New York Rangers, New York Islanders, you know, that type of stuff. But,
[01:45:27] Unknown:
That's kinda like my son in some some sports, so so I get it. So so yeah. So we had to have the obligatory,
[01:45:33] Unknown:
you know, Green Bay jerseys and all those all those things around the house and, you know, whatnot. But, but yeah. Yeah. You know, we're we're related. And, as a matter of fact, my mom, before she passed, she told me that she actually had a picture of Vince Lombardi holding me as a baby. And Yeah. And my sister and I, we you know, after after my parents passed and we were cleaning out the house, we we looked through every photo album there was, and I could not find it. So I don't know. I I hope somebody in the family has it, but, you know, it would be nice for me to have.
[01:46:06] Unknown:
Yeah. I have a a that's a similar story, but it's somewhat similar. It was 1984. I was seven years old. We flew into, Los Angeles. I'm with my mom. And in the airport, this is when the nineteen eighty four, Olympics were taking place in Los Angeles. So in the airport, I see all of the, the basketball players. They just won the gold medal. They're wearing their, warm up uniform. So the jackets with the pants that you could rip easily Yeah. To to and they're all in the airport, and they're all wearing their gold medals. So I wasn't shy when I was seven years old, and I ran up to them. And one of them picked me up, put the gold medal, and turned to my mom for her to take a picture.
But my my kids will never understand this story. They're like, why didn't your mom take a picture? I said, because people didn't walk around with cameras Right. Yeah. Back in 1984. I was like a victim of my circumstances. Right now, I would have had a thousand pictures. We don't have we didn't have cell phones. No. No. It's like I always tell my kids this. I was like, you're so spoiled. I didn't get my first cell phone until I was 21 years old.
[01:47:23] Unknown:
I know. I been
[01:47:26] Unknown:
a lot of players. And, I knew it wasn't Larry Bird. I just remember he he didn't look like Larry Bird. But when he put the medal on my neck, I
[01:47:41] Unknown:
I remember like it was the incident. Yeah. Of course. Like, I remember my dad my dad used to, my dad worked for the post office for, like, thirty plus years, but he also, on the side, he drove a yellow cab in Manhattan. Mhmm. And, So did my grandfather. Yeah. Yeah. And what so one time, he picked up, a bullpen coach for the Yankees, and it was this was 1977, I think. '78, maybe. And, it was a long drive, and, you know, they they got along really well, and he invited my dad to a game and left tickets for him at the at the box. And, you know, my dad takes me, and we got there. He and my the guy said to my father to let him know when we when we were there, get him a message that we were there, and, he'd get us into the clubhouse to meet the team. And so I have pictures with, like, Craig Nettles, Bucky Dent, Phil Rizzuto, you know, Bill White, all those guys Billy Martin. You know? I have pictures and autographs of all of that stuff.
And the one thing that stood out out of all of it is I was wearing a Mets hat. So you know? But, but I'll never forget that. That was that was an incredible experience, you know? And it's it's it's those are the things that you hold on to. You don't need a camera for those things, you know. No. I mean, that camera, that's vivid memory in my head. Yeah. It's still the camera would have been nice, though. I could've shown my children. My son
[01:49:04] Unknown:
knows every single thing, every little statistic about basketball. Nice. It's incredible. You know? And he was he could stop anyone on on my little, like, tidbits of information. Right. So he's kinda always drills me. Like, who was it? Was it this person? Was it that person? And how old is this? He knows more of the nineteen eighty four US Olympic team than I do. Who am I? He was born in 02/2013.
[01:49:29] Unknown:
Oh, okay. Okay. I was gonna He's a lost I was gonna know how old he was. Well, that's wild, man. And and and those are memories you just cherish those things, you know. And and you hope, you know, to kinda tie it all back into the politics conversation, you know, you you hope that that the generation that's coming up is gonna remember those moments that they had with with you, with me, you know, and and, you know, we should be doing the very best that we can in our generation to teach our children what this country was really all about. And Yeah. And try to and try to instill in them
[01:50:03] Unknown:
those values. And and I think if you're blessed enough that you could afford to travel, and have the ability to take your children with you, As you get older, you look at things different where money can be spent on many material things, but you can't ever get the memories like you have when you travel.
[01:50:24] Unknown:
That's true. And
[01:50:26] Unknown:
going and and and taking my children I mean, we've been in various countries. And in the last year, year and a half, we've been to, like, five countries. And, we're going we're going away on Friday to, The Middle East for the first time. And, so it'll be interesting. It'll be interesting. But, you don't understand. Like, we were just in Germany, in Berlin about six, seven weeks ago. You don't understand and this is really it goes back to the point of, you know, your show. You don't understand really what life is like until you actually been there, and you don't understand what it was like during that time until you were actually there.
And the one thing that I I didn't know I mean, I knew a lot about World War two, and I knew a lot about, how they won the blitzkrieg and that the Germans were on on crazy amounts of amphetamines, and they just didn't sleep, didn't stop. Even if they were shot, they wouldn't stop. Going. Yeah. They kept going. But what was incredibly interesting to me is they split the tour guides and, obviously, we went to the English tour guide, and he's from England. And he was telling us that there's so much political correctness in England that you don't even get an authentic history anymore of World War two. And he had to go to a special, like, international university just so that he can get a unique perspective of Yeah. The history of World War two. And one of the things he said was that we overestimate how good the Germans were in just about every part of the war except the two things was the blitzkrieg because of the euphemism and two is propaganda.
[01:52:18] Unknown:
Mhmm.
[01:52:18] Unknown:
The propaganda we saw, the Ministry of Propaganda was right there. I mean so we got to see the actual building where all the propaganda started. Right. And they they came up with I think it was I I I I I don't know. I don't recall who it was. Sometimes it's Hitler is quoted for saying it. It's Erwin Rommel. I don't remember who exactly, but, the bigger the lie and the more you repeat it, they shall, the more they will accept it. Yeah. Something to that effect. And you don't realize what's happening in this country until you travel there, and you see the actual history. Mhmm. And it's kind of like being in a room where it's completely bright out, and then somebody just comes to mess with you and just starts dimming it 5%, all of a sudden, you're in a pitch dark room and you don't know how you got there. Right? Yep.
And that's how World War two started. I mean, it was just you know, it was people that were fed up with the establishment, the decisions that were made ahead of their time that got into incredible poverty and felt like they needed a scapegoat. And that scapegoat happened to be not only Jews, but Bolsheviks, gypsies, and anyone that was not them. Right now, everyone just blames in this country, everyone just blames everyone except themselves. They don't look inside. You know? And you have a generation of victims right now, and it's the same thing. I'm not equating it to Nazi Germany, as a direct parallel, but there are some commonalities is blaming others for your problems rather than looking deep within yourself. Right?
And without traveling, without doing these things, I don't think you get a you know, without going to Germany, you don't have a good understanding of America, because America could go down that path if we allow it to. Very easily. You know, hatred's hatred on both sides, the left and the right. I think the left does a better job of making the right look bad in using things like, they have Antifa, and we have the Proud Boys. But the Proud Boys aren't is it you know, is victimized. Yeah. In its villainized, whereas the Antifa is, you know, made to seem like they're, saints. Yeah. Freedom. Yeah. The freedom fighters. Right. Yeah. Yeah. The freedom fighters. And you have the Proud Boys, and you have, you know, a bunch of groups like that. And not that I necessarily, support the ideology or even the understanding of it, but there is a lot of unknown, truth to what, you know, fundamental core principles of America that is in their, thought process.
And yet nobody really understands what their thought process is because they are equated to Nazis. And they aren't Nazis. I mean, I don't think, you know, a group that has multicultural followers, black, white, Latino as a leader, can be considered akin to a Nazi. But it's just understanding that history and seeing what's happening in this country. And most important, the ministry of propaganda, where is that coming from? And it's the fake news here. That's right. Yeah. So Absolutely. You know, when you have, you know, it doesn't matter what your political side is. It's just what matters is in your political side is you wanna believe what you wanna believe, so you come to conclusions based on those beliefs.
But when, Hunter Biden laptop came out right before an election and everyone knew it was Hunter Biden's laptop, how dare the news? How dare them, you know, say you can't release this truthful information because the ministry of propaganda or, whatever you wanna call it, you know, deemed it fake news. Mhmm. And what scares me the most under the Biden administration and the prior administration was that they had a ministry of truth. It was the same thing as the propaganda during the, ministry of propaganda during Nazi Germany, that they determined what was valid news and what was invalid news. And I was on a podcast not too long ago about AI of all things, and they're equating this as a great thing. Like, wouldn't it be great that we could eradicate all fake news? I'm like, no. You have to understand the constitution's freedom of speech. Right.
Because once you take that away, who determines what the truth is? That's right. Yeah.
[01:57:07] Unknown:
The left only believes that you have freedom of speech when it agrees with what they what they what their speech is.
[01:57:13] Unknown:
Correct. And then they use the word fascism without even understand I love Charlie Kirk and tell me what a fascist is. Why am I a fascist? Mhmm. What makes me a fascist? Yep.
[01:57:25] Unknown:
No one can answer that. Right. Because they just they just spew what they what and and parrot what they've heard, you know, on left leaning pods and left leaning shows and what their professors spew out. Because I don't I don't think they're really getting any kind of education. All they're getting, they're not being taught how to think. They're they're being told what to think.
[01:57:47] Unknown:
Yeah. And there's no I remember I remember when I was in college and I, my major was criminology because I I knew I was gonna go to law school. So I said, you know what? Let me learn about law. It was called law justice, but we joked because it was an easy major. We call it law and options. So we had a ton of options that we could choose. Right. So in a college degree, getting a a college education for one purpose two purposes. One, I have a college degree. Second is so I could go to law school. And I went to, I went to the college in New Jersey, which, was a top ranked local college, still top ranked in the Northeast, one of the top, hardest, I'm not now maybe Rutgers is, but hardest public school to get into in New Jersey, which, I mean, that's my claim to fame. Like, Al Bundy, four touchdowns, Swan Games. Right.
But, it was just at that time, I knew things weren't right. Like, when I was taking my elective classes and I took this class, and they were telling you, teaching you how to speak. And this was about, you know, LGBTQ before it was called that. And I remember having a a a professor saying, okay. You're in this party, and there are people that are, you know, straight, and there are people who aren't straight. And how do you talk to them to show that you have full inclusion? And to me, it's the same thing when people, like, tell you how to talk to, you know, black people or how to talk to Hispanic people. Like Yeah. Just be a human.
Right. That's all you have to do. You know? Don't make it an issue when it's not an issue. Right? I totally agree with that. What what what you realized then, it was just I never felt comfortable about it. But what they were doing at that time, unbeknownst to me, and what they do now is they separate everyone by identity politics. And where do you learn that when you're most vulnerable is when you're finally left your parents and you have your individual your individualism? You get to do whatever. You have no curfews. You get to be an idiot.
You you get to stay up late. Nobody's telling you what to do or what not to do. As long as you can balance that with your grades, your parents love you. Yeah. And they're okay with it. And that's the problem because then you're vulnerable to these ideologies that challenge everything you've known. And since you're in a situation where everything's great I mean, maybe your parents are paying for your college. You don't have to worry about money. Or maybe you have loans that no matter what you know, you can't get a car loan because you have no credit, but you could get a $150,000 Stafford loan. Right. Yeah. How does that make sense?
[02:00:44] Unknown:
It it makes no sense. And then and then you you bitch and complain about having to pay it back.
[02:00:49] Unknown:
So Exactly. And, you know, I keep saying that the problem is that the Stafford Loans, they said no matter what the school charges, we'll give you the loan. So what happens is they encourage these universities to increase the tuition on average 5% when the average inflation rate's 3%. So cost of a 2% differential every, what is it, every thirty six years, college gets twice as expensive to the to the dollar. So every thirty six years, if college if if we had zero inflation and college was $20,000, it's now 40,000. So debt is twice as much one or two generations down the road. Right. So now you enter the workforce, and you're competing with people with no degree because your brain wants to think you need to have the degree to get a job that you don't need to have the degree, but now you have this debt. And why do you want why does an employer want you? Because you have the debt. You need the money. You can't go anywhere else.
And that makes a lot of sense. I never thought of it that way. That's a very that's a good way to look at it. Yeah. I mean, my my my nephew is 21 years old, and I said to him, you know, he lives in New Jersey. I said, air traffic control. They need people to land planes right now. You starting salary is a 140,000. You don't need a college degree.
[02:02:10] Unknown:
It's a lot of stress, though. You know? Yeah. No no matter you know, some people, I don't know, you you know, they may not be able even no no matter how much you give them, they may not be able to handle that. Yeah. That's true. I don't know. Well, Evan, listen. We're gonna we're gonna wrap it up here. It's been over two hours. I didn't realize that. Holy cow. I know. Time flies by. It sure does. Especially when you're having fun. It was a great conversation. So, Evan, why don't you, just give us some information as where we can track you down, and then I'll make sure I include all of that in the show notes when they go out.
[02:02:42] Unknown:
Okay. So you can find me at Turk Law Group. That's my law firm. So if you, you know, are having any family issues, marital issues, or stage trust, asset protection, multigenerational planning, you wanna create a company, for your family that stands the test of time, that can leave your legacy, call me at Turk Law Group. That's my website, Turk Law Group. But on the, charity side, I am the CEO of the American Rights Alliance. It's americanrightsalliance.0rg. You could find us at donate at a r a on Twitter, and, mostly that same handle on every other social media platform, American Rights Alliance.
And, we're working right now. One of the things we didn't discuss, we, put 11, pardons in front of the president to sign this week. So Oh, praise god. Yeah. So donate to us if, if if you could be so kind. I'm I'm I'm not, I'm not too proud to to beg for that because this money is we're getting innocent people out of jail. We're defending basic rights. I have children, and I wanna pass this world, this country to them in a place that is better than what it is right now. And, we do that through strategic litigation at the American Rights Alliance.
Thank you for your time. I really do. And, great conversation. And, go Giants. Go Yankees. And, Let's go, man. Jets may the Jets still disappoint.
[02:04:22] Unknown:
Let's go Mets. Let's go Mets. Yes. Alright, Evan. Thank you again so much for your time, and I hope we can do this again sometime. So we'll we'll definitely get in contact, and this is a really great conversation. Absolutely. Looking forward to it. Alright. Thank you so much. You take care now. Thank you. Alright. Take care. Bye. Alright, folks. Well, that's gonna do it for us for tonight. We'll get into some of the news articles probably, Friday, if we can. Don't forget, though, Friday, we do have Victor Gitchend who's gonna be with us in the first hour, so make sure you check us out at 7PM central time. Alright, folks. Shout out to our executive producers, Wayne and Rosanna Rankin, to our producer, anonymous Angela. Thank you so much for all you do. Folks, great night tonight. Look forward to talking to you again Friday. Have a great night. God bless you. Take care. Good night, and goodbye.
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I just wanted to keep you on your feet. You know? Mission on a live show. Mission accomplished. Mission accomplished.
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Alright. So, Evan, why don't you, just kinda walk us through your background, give us an idea of of how you, became the go to attorney, for some of the most important and complex cases in in the history of The United States?
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Well, where where where does one start? Right? First of all, I I'm I'm blessed to have, live in, there's two states I would like to live in. Texas being one of them, your hometown. But here in, South Florida, Palm Beach, Boca Raton
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Nice.
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This is the Winter White House as they call it. So first thing first, I was, located in the right area. Second is I, happen to be in the right location with the right people. And, one of the big assets that I've had was my friendship with the right people, one of which is a gentleman by the name of Peter Ticton. Peter Ticton, we worked together for years, and he happened to go to military school with Donald Trump. And Donald Trump calls him his oldest friend. Mhmm. I say that's because you are literally his oldest friend. But, all kidding aside, his daughter ran into this woman who was very unknown at the time. Her name is Alina, Alina Habba.
And I happen to know, at the time, Rand Paul senior adviser, who then became one of the Trump senior advisers. And, all things work together, and we started out as local counsel for for the president of The United States. I never have expected that. And that's not the end. That's just the beginning. And during, the aftermath in January 6, the president asked, mister Peter Ticton to work with him on gathering all the evidence, and he worked with Giuliani to make sure that all the evidence in January 6 were identifiable and that all the resources, all the phone calls, all the data was centralized.
We now have, a lot of information that would blow your mind, on what the truth behind January 6 is versus, what the fake news will share.
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Well, then I'm glad you brought up January 6 because, you know, that's what that's something that I'm I'm very interested in, and I've been I've been following it, obviously, since since it happened. I don't, I don't necessarily buy the, the narrative that the mainstream media puts out on it. But, k. You don't think it was an insurrection? Oh, no. I believe I believe it was, but I don't think it was the I I don't think it was the crowd that performed the insurrection. I think it was Exactly. Deep inside the government that did it. But, what do you think one of the biggest misconceptions, though, that that the public has about the, January 6 legal proceedings as they were?
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Okay. The legal proceedings that the people who were marching along or peacefully protesting through the Capitol Building, which for the most part was opened, alongside police officers and all types of people with no weapons. They got charged with crimes that you would think that, they had weapons and that they were gathered ahead of time with a a planned overthrow of the government, and they were treated like that. Mhmm. A lot of people were just what they thought were exercising their first amendment right, freedom of speech, didn't realize at the time that they were trespassing.
If we forget what was going on at that time, you had it was around COVID where everybody was, you know, locked inside for for months or or years, depending on what state you resided in Mhmm. Except if, you are part of certain types of select groups, you know, Black Lives Matter being one of them Mhmm. Then you are allowed to peacefully protest, which included starting fires because that's just what you do during a peaceful protest. Right? Exactly. Yeah. Sure. I mean, because people get cold. You need to warm your body. That's right. Yeah. So the misconception is that these people who, given the opportunity if you were in Washington DC walking near the Capitol Building and you see people walking through the Capitol Building alongside police and, really, nobody's trying to stop you walking through, you could understand a little bit of the mentality.
But the news, the fake news media saw it as an opportunity to really exploit the opportunity to get Trump to never run for office again, to criminalize it, politicize it, and, here we are today. Fortunately, we have somebody who was brave enough to withstand something that most people couldn't withstand, including his family at one point, didn't think he had a chance after that election, after the, twenty twenty election and said, dad, it's enough time. You know? You should step down, and not think about running again, and now he's our president.
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Which is amazing. The when you think how the the how he has overcome the the radical left, mainstream media, all of the, the the the silencing of social media. The man had to go out and start his own social media company just to get out just to get his message out there. And he he went through the, the whole, Russia gate thing. While he was in office, he went through all of the bullshit, excuse my language. Mhmm. Trials up in New York with, Leticia James. And and, by the way, New York is my hometown. I'm I'm a transplant to Texas. Thank God for that. Yes. But, Yeah. Me too. I'm from Jersey. So Yeah. I went south. You went south. That's the migration a little bit more to this. Yeah. Exactly. That's the way it works. Like, I used to joke, say, you know, you start in Brooklyn, then you move to Staten Island. From Staten Island, you go to Jersey. From Jersey, you go to Florida. So Yeah. You know, but, I buy You noticed New Jersey is never the final destination. No. No. Everybody wants to vacate. Everybody wants to vacate. Yes. But, but, yeah. But but, Donald Trump, he went through all of those cases up in New York, the trials up in New York, the the the the convictions, the mug shots in Georgia, and and all of that stuff that they thought was gonna be detrimental to his political career, to silence him and shut him up, all backfired.
He is the most popular president by far in my lifetime, and probably in modern history. He's probably the most popular president. I saw a poll, I think it was earlier today or late yesterday, that, RealClearPolitics put out that, that he is at 48% approval at the same time in his second term as Barack Obama was at 47%, and George Bush was, the second George Bush, at 46%. So he's he's outperforming the darling of the Democrat party. Well, I don't I don't know if I can say that anymore. I don't think they're too too keen on Obama so much right now. But, but, you know, he beats out their darling, and he beats out, into the neocon.
So Yeah. You know, it's it's just it's just a testament to his his stamina, and especially at his age. You know? What is he, 73?
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Fair enough. No. He's 70, 78. He's 79.
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Oh, wow. Okay. I thought he was younger than that. Yeah. Well, that's the Yeah.
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I mean, he's he's been eating those McDonald's hamburgers. There's gotta be something in that. And,
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Maybe, maybe maybe RFK got him taking some of that, blue methylene stuff.
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Something. I mean, like, the guy has more energy than I do, and I'm I know. 48 years old. He's done he's done more in his in his first six months of this of his second term
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than Joe Biden has done in, what, fifty years in public service.
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Yeah. I mean yeah. Absolutely. I mean, I I I just think, he did more in the first hundred days than, the the the man who preceded him, or the man before him did his whole career. Right? Yeah. I I agree.
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So I agree. But, just wanna get back to the j six stuff for for a few more minutes. So, now, of course, you know, the the way the whole committee was set up, you know, unethical, I think. I don't know if that's the right term for it. But, Criminal? Criminal. That's Borderline? Yeah. That's that's a good one too. But it does set a precedent though for few for for for, future political witch hunts, don't you think?
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Absolutely. But, Or at least in protest related prosecution. The president was started, the second Trump walked down the the escalator. Mhmm. And it adds to it. And then you stack the committee with two Republicans that are, the definition of rhinos Mhmm. And and And rabbit one who has ties to Halliburton and a very evil father as a vice president. And what do you expect? You had somebody who is not a big, ally of president Trump, Rand Paul, which would have been a perfect person to be there, but I think that they they said he was too, centralist or I'm sorry.
He wasn't objective. I I forget what they they used. So they stacked a deck, and, you know, no matter what happened, no matter what the evidence showed, they were gonna get an outcome because they were looking for it.
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What do you think about, speaker Johnson, talking about, setting up a subcommittee to investigate j six the j six committee?
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It needs to happen. The challenge that we have is when we expose the truth. It it it leads up this is the the the problem that I I we we we always see is that you feel like something's gonna happen. We're gonna finally get something. Right? Mhmm. And then silence. Like, the first time president Trump was in office, we thought we're gonna figure out who, what was in Roswell and JFK, who assassinated JFK, and now this time around, Jeffrey Epstein, and then we found out that it was suicide. So
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I Which I I I still don't.
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I don't. I don't know. I I just don't get it at all other than, I could go conspiracy theory, and I shouldn't. Well, I won't we'll probably never find out. But, I love the idea of it. I love the exposure of it. I would love, love, love to to to see the truth behind it. But the powers would be somehow, it just always leaves for excitement and goes nowhere. Well yeah. But Sorry. You're right, though. In the sense that I would love it for it to happen to really the truth
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get disclosed, but we will see. Yeah. And, you know, and it and I'll be honest with you. I I am a little disappointed with some of the how slow things have been moving as and certain things. Like like, I I love the fast pace as far as the economy goes, and, you know, the way he's been moving around, you know, just keeps the media off balance, keeps the Democrats off balance. You know? They don't know which way he's gonna go next, which I think is great. It's a great strategy. I hope he can keep it up. But, what I what I'm really starting to get disappointed with is, Pam Bondi.
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Mhmm.
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I think she's spending more time on Fox friends and Fox News than she is, in her office actually doing some work for the people that she promised would be done, and that president Trump said would be done. Like, of course, you know, when we mentioned the Epstein files, personally speaking, I don't think that there is much left. I think a lot of that was destroyed the moment that, that Donald Trump was, officially, named as a nominee for the Republican party for for for this, for this four year term. I think that as soon as that took place and they realized that the the possibility of him coming back to the office is was true. They they dumped everything they possibly could. And what they couldn't dump, I'm sure they scrubbed it.
Made, you know, changing documents and and whatnot. I wouldn't be surprised at that. And I I did I did some law enforcement work back in New York, you know. I worked for the city for twenty three years. I was an investigator for a number of years. So I understand that, you know, investigations take time, and then sometimes you can't talk about things. You can't, you know, reveal too much information, you know, to the public on cases that you're working on. I understand that. But, you know, don't go out there and promise people, oh, there's truckloads of information and and produce a binder with nothing in it other than information that was already released and all redacted.
Exactly.
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So the way I'm looking at what's to come is we know in his first term, you know, certain things for whatever reason, I like I said, I could come up with five, six, seven good conspiracies as to why this happened or this did not happen. But at the end of the day, what I'm more most concerned pragmatically is are we moving forward in a way where after this term, we get somebody in office that makes this country and makes us proud, Americans
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Yeah.
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And most important, Americans, or do we do this ping pong effect? And so we get somebody that is completely so far, it's the other side, someone like an AOC that you won't have four years to understand this country. And on top of that, what type of political prisoners will we have? January 6 may just be, the beginning of something that we now know, you know Yeah. Can happen and what will happen. So what I'm really more concerned about, although I would love love to know the truth behind JFK, Roswell, you know, Epstein files, and all that. Most important, though, is where is this country gonna be when Trump leaves office? Is is this gonna be a JD Vance presidency next, or is this gonna be something so extreme that, you know, everything that we stood for, everything our forefathers
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fought for is forgotten Yeah. And just goes to not. So Yeah. I'm I'm concerned about that too. I I honestly I think, you know, we're gonna get the four years of of Donald Trump, and then I think we're gonna get I think we're gonna get Vance. Mhmm. I'd like to see and and I I know some people kinda scratch their heads when I say this, but I'd like to see a Vance Rubio ticket.
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Yeah. No. It's it's great because Rubio is more of an establishment, whereas Vance is more of
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a MAGA Republic. Yeah. And But Rubio is also kind of he's come a long way. You know? Yes. He's he's he's changed a lot since his debate performance with with Trump the first the first go around. And Yes. He's he's really grown into the role that he's in, and I'm really impressed, to be honest with you. And I I don't know if it's all an act. I don't know if he's just, you know, playing the part just to, you know, just to just to, you know, keep keep himself in the position and keep himself in the public eye. But, you know, if this is a legitimate, like, born again, you know, experience for him, I I'm really impressed. He's he's definitely the most improved player.
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Yes. Yes. And what what's good about him is he his pedigree. He he's somebody that, he's Cuban. He's, an immigrant. I think his parents were Cuban refugees, and he's bilingual. I love when he speaks both in English and Spanish. And Sure. He's he's a a true Floridian. And, now there's nothing bad to say about him. All I could think of is, you know, every time I've met the president, realizing the president's hands aren't little, and that's the only thing that we'll never understand. Yeah. I know. I I I I mean, it's something that we could all see. Why would you say your hands are little? I know.
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And I I love the nicknames that he comes up with for people. I think they're I think they're hysterical. He just nails it, man. He's he's he's good at what he does. He's he's good at branding. He's, you know, that's his thing. That that's definitely his thing. One thing I am concerned about too is, like I mentioned, the slow pace of things and how they're going. Now from what I understand, and correct me if I'm wrong on this one, but I I believe that, you know, the Republicans hold the house, the senate, and the house of representatives, and yet they've sent fewer bills to the president's desk than any previous, congress in seventy years.
Yeah. And that's that's disturbing. You know?
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I know. And it concerns me because we only have two years. We don't have four years Right. For, a stacked deck. Thank you. And what's happening other than executive orders? And, you know, I love the executive orders that the president signed, but as a fundamental constitutionalist, I don't like executive orders. I think they're, for a lack of better words, they're bullshit. And they're not long lasting, and it's a breach of the fundamental, power. So, balance of power. So why don't we have a congress that gets their act together? Right? Mhmm. Works together and gets these executive offices passed through through the legislative branch, not the executive branch.
And this way, the courts can't contest it because they'll have no standing, and they take the judicial branch out of the equation. Yeah. What is congress doing except the the lower house, passed the big, great bill. But by the time it comes into law, it's gonna be completely
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gutted out. Oh, for sure. There there is there I and I'll be honest with you. I I've been trying to keep up with it, and there's just so much back and forth on this thing. I I understand that that this isn't a spending bill. This isn't a budget. You know, this is, like, what do they call it? Reconciliation bill? Yes. Reconciliation. So, so, yeah, there's not gonna be the cuts. There's not gonna be the budget lines for, like, to to codify Doge, the Doge cuts. Mhmm. That doesn't happen till September. You know? This is basically there to get us through until September, until the actual budget can come into play. So I I see there's all that back and forth going on between, like like like, Elon Musk, you know, saying, you know, how disgusted he is with this thing.
Rand Paul, you know, expressing his disgust over the whole thing. And then you have, Miller coming out Stephen Miller coming out, in defense of the bill. And, actually, I I had something here somewhere. Let me see. I can pull it up really quick. So this was a a a tweet. I don't know if you can see that. It's kinda small print. But
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Yeah. Oh, I can zoom in now when I see it. So you're gonna take it around to big, beautiful villa at the park. Right?
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It's lengthy. So, you know, to read the whole thing, but, you know so all this really does is just provide a lot of confusion.
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Yeah. Yes. It does. I mean, the the the issues and the challenges, we have or, the Republicans have versus the Democrats is that Democrats seem to, all accept no matter what piece of shit comes in in front of them, they all
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stand in line. And I was I was gonna say the same thing, that Democrats, the first Republicans, Democrats move in lockstep. Yeah. You know, they they don't deviate. No matter what it is, they're all in the same message. Good and bad. You know? Yeah. You do wanna have some dissension. You do wanna have some debate and some discussion within the party itself. But at the same time, you wanna be able to come together and and and at least have those debates privately. Don't don't don't put it on display and and make the president look weak, you know, which is which is another thing, you know, I wanna touch on, you know, in a in a minute or two, this whole thing with him supposedly not being briefed on what happened with Ukraine over the weekend.
But, you know, it's the republics Republicans need to get them get their act together. You know? Again, like you said, we have two years. We don't have four years. I had Jasmine Crockett, you know, the the the the the the mouth of of Dallas, Texas over here. She's already talking about if she gets a a committee chairmanship that she's immediately gonna push for investigations for for impeachment. You know? And then we'll and then we'll have two years of just nonstop bogus impeachment hearings, spending more American more more of the taxpayer dollars on on on hearings and and committees and and all that mess for nothing.
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Possibly nothing other than for someone like Jasmine to to fire the base and get you know, take more power from moderates. And, you know, the more it it it seems like the less educated you are, the more obnoxious you speak, the the better you do.
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You know? It's idiotic. And it's just
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she epitomizes. She makes AOC look,
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tame. Right? She makes it look like a Rhodes Scholar. Yeah. You know? Exactly. But, but you might you know the movie Idiocracy? That's what we're living in some part of it. Well, at least we're at the very we're at the cusp of it. We're, you know, we're we're just maybe an election or two away from falling into that abyss.
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You know? I know. And, we have the technology now to get us there with artificial intelligence, saying people won't even know what to do. True. Very true.
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And, speaking of which, Marjorie Taylor Greene, provided a nice little mea culpa today. Did you did you catch that?
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No. Unfortunately, I put in court today.
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No. She, she said that she regrets her vote for the, the big beautiful bill because it, it has provisions in there for, congressional control over AI development and not leaving it with the states and letting the states handle it. So Interesting. She says that, there were there were pages that that, that she wasn't aware of in the bill, which I find, you know, disturbing. You know? Mhmm. You're supposed to be reading these bills. I mean, I don't know if maybe she didn't have them or she just
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Or maybe she learned from Nancy Pelosi that says
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sign it then read it. Right. Yeah. Well, we have to pass it to find out what it says.
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Yeah. Alright.
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I'd never forget that. That that was like, But, but, you know, but but I am thoroughly pleased. Yeah. You know, you see all these on these, on on all these social medias, like like, like like, x and all that stuff. You know, did you vote for this? You know, and they show you these horrible pictures of, you know, like, completely blown out, you know, scenarios that are taking place that, you know, totally out of context and and whatnot. So this this this this this, Maryland band has been deported, leaving his whole family behind. Do you do you vote for this? If he was here illegally. Yes. I did. I did vote for that. Yeah. And now we have this thing with, with Colorado man out there. Yeah. You know, because, of course, you know, that's gonna be the that's gonna be the spin that, that the Democrats gonna put on it. You know, Colorado man is, you know, being detained, you know, harassed because he's here illegally. He's he's he's undocumented.
I think it I think it's a term they're getting used. But,
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but And I have I have such It drives me nuts. One of my my biggest pet peeves is the, the left's political correctness of common sense and the terms that conservatives now even use because it became mainstream. But you used the word undocumented or you used the word migrant. Mhmm. You know, by definition, if you break the law to come into this country, it's an activity. It's called illegal. And if you're not from here, you're an alien, so you're an illegal alien. Right. They could be a migrant, but we don't know if you're a migrant or you're a gangster.
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Correct.
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So why don't call them gangsters? They're just as legitimate as a migrant. You can talk about this one person, and we all know, we've all living in this country, you from Texas, me from Florida, or even New Jersey, that you met somebody that did work on a car or, came to your house and and did a wonderful job, and that's what you think. You you that's coming into the country. But that's not the truth. And when you don't vet but we can't even say and speak the obvious without political correctness. That's true. And, you know, we just use these terms undocumented.
Well, you could vote now if you're undocumented because it's racist to say, you know Yep. You should have an ID because it's voter suppression. Mhmm.
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Which I don't which I never understood how how getting an ID is, is is so difficult for, you know, minorities and Mhmm. And and and, you know, it suppresses their votes, and it makes it difficult for them to do that. You have to have ID for just about everything you do in this in this world now. Yeah. You know, how do you not have an ID card?
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And and and my thinking is if you can't figure out how to get identification Then you don't vote. Should you be voting in the first place? Correct. I agree with that. I I I love it. I mean, show some sort of common sense. Right? Some sort of intelligence. Because, otherwise, what does your vote mean? But that that you can't say that in a politically correct universe. So, you know, it's a fun activity when when you have some free time. Go into chat g b t or whatever artificial intelligence you use and, type in, give me the best argument why we should not have voter ID or voter ID is racist.
And it's just interesting because you know and you could just go really deep into it and say, no. Make it stronger. Make it more convincing. Make it more this or make it more that. And no matter how you do it, no matter how you spin it, it still makes no sense. It it makes, like, one of the things that I first started doing because I never understood this. It's it's the, squatter's rights issue. Mhmm. How do you justify a squatter's right? Like, how does a squatter someone who breaks an answer, it commits a crime, has rights in the first place. But since nobody has claimed that over time, they take possession over that property.
And that's when I started doing this. And now all of a sudden, just trying to look at arguments that make no sense from the other side just so that I could have a meeting of the minds and say, maybe I overlooked something. Maybe I missed something. Mhmm. There's nothing I missed. Just common sense. I'm and especially the voter ID. I'm like, give me the strongest and I watched these, Charlie Kirk when he goes to these campuses. You have all these people. I'm like, I'm waiting for that one person to have an argument that I never thought of why it makes sense to not have ID.
And it makes no sense.
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None. Yeah. Oh, I know I know exactly. I know exactly what you mean, and and I I agree with you. I mean, it it's it's it's not difficult to obtain an ID. And, yeah, I agree. Also, if you if you if you can't figure out to have ID, then how to how to get an ID card, I don't think I want you voting. You know? That's why I kinda like what the founding generation, you know, was we're thinking of. They were like, you know, if you're not a property owner, you shouldn't vote.
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Yeah. I mean, we just gotta be careful how we say it because they also said if you're a woman, you can't vote. Yeah. Well, yeah. I agree with that. Be careful. Right? No. I'm
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kidding. Yeah. Listen. We we say whatever we have to say here. We don't care. You know? It's a it's a non politically correct show, so I I don't know. But but, but but speaking of rights, you know, talking about, you know, these these illegals that have been coming and pouring through the border of the previous administration, one of the things that irritate me the most is when you hear the left screaming about, they they need to have due process before they get deported. They need Yeah. They need, you know, violating their rights. What rights do they have? The constitution if I'm not I'm not a lawyer, you know, so you you can correct me if I'm wrong here on this, but, the constitution's protections only apply to American citizens, not every citizen of the world. Correct?
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I think it's not specified or codified like that in the constitution, so it leaves room for debate. The challenge that you have here is if you allow these 14,000,000 or whatever the million number of legals that came across the border, their due process will be three generations in before they get removed. Right? Or at least one generation. So then they will all have children in this country that have rights because they're Americans, and now you'll be separating families. So you can't do that. Mhmm. So how do you fix the problem? Right? Especially if you're left on someone on the left, you can't it it all contradicts.
It does. And and and what what really makes sense to me it's not whether you're left or right. It it's just common sense apply common sense for for certain things that could also be used for other things. For example, you know, if you say you are women should be in sports, but men can be women, so therefore men can be in sports. Right? Mhmm. As women. Then a parallel argument would be, why not have a white person apply for university as a black person? Because by the same argument, men being women, it's easier to switch your racial culture, especially, depending on how you look and your your your background.
So I'm just into having things that you could apply common sense and rules that apply to everything in every scenario, and don't make an argument so complex because you want an outcome under one that you can't apply it to others. It's the same thing. To me, it makes more sense polygamy, than other arguments, but we know we're not allowed the countries to know its rules about polygamy. I'm not a polygamist. It's not, you know, what I would agree with, but everyone seems to agree that polygamy is not an issue. Mhmm. But yet gender issues are. It makes no sense. And if you just fundamentally look at things from a common sense perspective, base it off of what our founding fathers have thought to create a a constitution as a a foundation for where this country needs to go so that we don't repeat the mistakes of our past, I think we'll be fine. And I think, fortunately, for the most part for the most part, we've been able to succeed through a lot of those. But right now, I think we're at war with just common sense, and it just makes no sense. When my my children that are 11 and 13 can ask me something and understand something that an adult can't, that's when we have a problem.
And, remember during COVID, my son would say, why when we go to a restaurant, we have to put a mask on? But the second we sit down, we can take it off. And when we leave, we don't need it. How is that make any sense? But yet We did it. The government forces that on us. Yeah. So, you know, it's just if we go back and apply common sense for all, I think we'd be a lot better as a nation, rather than outcome driven and fine rules to get you there. I agree. I agree.
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I I had put up I don't know if you saw it, but I had put up on the screen there just to go back to what we're talking about, federal judge blocks Trump administration from deporting the terrorist suspect family. You know? Mhmm. That's where we are today. You have, you know, which I think is absolutely ridiculous as somebody who's in the legal profession to see all of these judges. These first of all, they're district judges. Yes. And I don't understand where they get the constitutional authority to to slap an injunction or or block something in Rhode Island that affects the entire not the entire country.
And something Mike Johnson had said, constitutionally, Congress has the authority to, to shut down the district courts and reform them. And he said and he said that he was going to do that. And it's been two months since he said that he was gonna do that, and I haven't heard a word about it since.
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Exactly. Well
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And that's what makes me worry. Problem. And that I'm I'm sorry. But that's what makes me worry for the midterms because, you know, the the voting base is gonna see this. They see the inactivity. They see the inaction on these things that they talk about. Oh, we're gonna do this. We're gonna do that. We're gonna get this done that done this one, and then nothing happens. You're running the risk of the base staying home at the midterms. Yeah. And then the the left takes control of the senate or they take control of the house or both, and then you're gonna have two years of nothing happening. Well, not that it would make a difference because nothing's really happening anyway. But
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nothing happening No. A lot a lot will happen, but it won't be good. Correct. I mean, with Trump's last two years in office, that's what you had. So we forget. And, you know, one of the things we said earlier in this show is, where is congress? Like, what happened? Are they on permanent vacation? I think the fact that the executive branch, the president's doing all these executive orders is you know, the the the issue is he has to do it because where is the legislative branch? They're they're stuck in their committees trying to, you know, determine whether a boy is a man or a girl or, whether you should use this pronoun or that pronoun versus making this country better and do what is most important for the bulk of the population.
Mhmm. Not what the far left or even the far right wants accomplished. Get accomplished if you could get 70 to 80% of America, what means what it means to them to be an American, you know, reduce inflation, create bills that stop, you know, our next generation from being in a situation where they have no future. Protect. Say police are there to protect us, and that's what their duty is. Right. Call a protester a protester, call a rioter a rioter. Right. Do the things that you really need to do to bring back common sense. The biggest issue that we've had over the last, I don't know, my lifetime, I'm 48, is that we've never had a congress do what congress is supposed to do. Correct. I I The executive branch is overreached, and now the Supreme Court has to balance that overreach with more overreach.
And the the the the the really, the truth behind it all is congress should be shamed. And if there's something that should change in congress, it should be congress first. Agree. Get term limits. Get people out. Do not have a reason that some have someone like a Joe Biden who never ever risked a single dollar of his own personal capital, make millions and hundreds of millions, probably, will never know, by using his political position Right. For power. And it shocks me how you have these people in congress living like that. Bernie Sanders saying it's everyone shouldn't fly private but him because it's important for him. So rules apply to those, but not to him. Right? Right. Yeah. Or Nancy Pelosi, insider trading. You know?
What what's your name? I went to jail for, for years I mean, for months, for insider trading. Meanwhile, Nancy Pelosi is the best stock trader in history.
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I think my camera just went out.
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Yeah. No. It's a nice, picture, though, you got. It looks kinda like the Grateful Dead.
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Wonderful. Hold on. Let me see if I can get it back here. This has been happening a little bit. There we go. Yeah. For some reason, it, the last couple of shows, it's been automatically flipping over to the OBS virtual camera, which I don't even know what that is. So I have no idea, but I apologize for that. But, yeah, who went to jail for insider trading with, what's her name?
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Yeah. She's now with Snoop Dogg, and she had, Martha Stewart. Martha Stewart. Yeah. Yeah. And, James Comey was the one that did that, is she? Nobody noticed about that. Nobody talks about that. No. No. Which it which it's it's it's amazing.
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And, hey. Speaking of Comey, what do you think about his, of his whole $86.47 thing? Of course I think I don't think it's gonna go anywhere. I think it's No. Dead in the water. But, I love the excuse that he used that it was his wife.
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Did did you catch that? I didn't catch that one. I thought he was on the beach, and somebody put it there, and he thought, hey. That's funny. But then I heard him use this excuse about the, he came from the restaurant business, and 86 means to to stop,
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or, like, we're out of this. So, like, get rid of the present, not kill him. Yeah. No. But just, you know And and I I start over. Do you know do you know what the what that the 86 means? I mean, what it breaks down to? The eight and the six have a meaning. No. I I never thought about it. It's, eight miles out, six feet under. Oh, really? Wow. You take you take them eight eight miles out of the city, and you put them six feet under. Wow. And so I'm a Sicilian, so I know these things.
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Oh, there you go.
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But, yeah. No. It it's and that's that's disturbing thing too is you you have those thing you have those those comments being made. You have those, and you have someone like James Comey who has a voice. You know? He's he's not an unknown person. If he does have a following, strangely enough, Yeah. You know, and then you have all these copycats. I think Kash Patel said last week that that they've had to, redirect agents from from looking for the all these missing kids to responding to copycats of James Comey, putting up the eighty six forty seven stuff. Yeah. You know?
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Yep. And, I mean, if you look at the, what's going on with the pro Hamas anti Israel movement that, has penetrated this nation. It's just it's it's completely mind boggling. But This is all This is open borders. It's it's open borders, and it's also this movement to support anything but common sense. I mean, you have a movement that's queers for Palestine, but they queers for Palestine, those people can't live in Palestine because they would be killed. Thrown off a roof. Yeah. Yeah. Thrown off a roof. It's just mind boggling that they're supporting the country or the the part of the country that's anti, equal rights where they can live freely in Israel. They could march. They could protest. It's kind of like here in America.
The only country in the Middle East like that for that matter, but they're supporting that because of a movement. Mhmm. And when you start demonizing Israel and you're saying boycott, divest, sanction with this whole BDS movement you've been doing for years, that's all the undertone is just antisemitism. And I don't like that word, antisemitism, because I don't think people know what it means. It's Jewish hatred. Okay? Let's call it what it is. It's people don't like Jews, and they use these tropes that, you know, the the the they're bankers or they control the weather and this and that. And You may know. You're from New York, Florida, there's a lot of Jews. But outside three areas of this country, there are parts of this country where people have never met a Jew Right. Yet they have a lot of hatred towards them.
And you allow that ideal that that that, hatred succeed on a college campus and universities nationwide. Harvard being the bastion of all universities. Like, they're it's it's it's the, you know, I have a son that I'm now saying, what school or my daughter, what school do I want him or her to go to? Because it's no longer Harvard. Yeah. But now all of a sudden, people are getting killed because of these ideologies and these racist undertones. And there's certain racism that's accepted and others aren't. Black lives matter, perfect peaceful protest. January 6, insurrection.
Yet there are a lot more people that died during the Black Lives Matter movement than they did on January 6. That's right. But, yeah, we forget that because it's not a convenient truth because it's
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based on common sense It doesn't fit the narrative. Is
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yeah. It doesn't fit the narrative.
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We don't look that way. No. Of course not. And that and that's the that's the scary thing too because I I think that I I just don't see it getting any better.
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No. So when I'm not practicing law, I run a a charity called the American Rights Alliance. It was actually, the first donor was Donald Trump junior who donated the money he made from the sale of t shirts that was raised after his father's worst day when he he had his mug shot. Mhmm. And that's what funded the charity. And what we're fighting for will blow your mind on what we say, whether it be January 6 cases or, people in jail for things that you would never ever think of for being Americans. I don't know if you follow the Tina Peters case. It's here's a, woman, a supervisor of elections in Colorado that is in jail right now because they mandated her to erase the computers, the data, after the twenty twenty election, and which was illegal. They forced her to do an illegal activity, and she refused and was a whistleblower, and now she's in jail. Jeez.
But we're not talking about that because we are more concerned over an illegal immigrant that beat the shit out of his wife a few times from what I understand. That from what I understand on his knuckles, it says MS 13. Yep. And we have congress that are not doing anything in congress, but they're flying to the, you know, to to, El Salvador and making this guy the next George Floyd. Yeah. Sipping margaritas. I mean, there's one thing in common with these two people. The left speak for women's rights, but they support women beaters, wife beaters.
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Makes no sense. They they speak for women's rights, but they allow boys to compete as women.
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Correct. Yes. Yeah. So
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it it's just it's it's a very strange world that we live in. It it I I don't know where you stand religiously or or what your beliefs are, but there is a there is a passage in in in the Old Testament where, and I'm I'm gonna mangle it because I'm gonna paraphrase it. But, you know, you know, it does talk about a time when, you know, what's right will be wrong, what's dark will be light, and, what would be sin would be righteous. And, you know, it it's it and we're in that time. You know? We're in that time. And, it's it's a it's a very scary, scary thing.
But, as far as, like, like like, Israel goes, you know, I I I support Israel, you know, from a a religious back, point of view, a spiritual point of view. I don't necessarily agree with them politically. You know? I think, sometimes I I think that there is the, you know, that that whole globalist agenda with Israel is just as much it is here in The United States. I think, you know, when you talk about term limits, you know, Netanyahu's been been involved in in in leadership in the country for how many years now? Yeah.
I remember him back in the eighties and the nineties. You know? And from what I understand, I have I have a good friend who lives in in Israelis. He's Israeli. And, he's he basically told me recently that, you know, public sentiment about Netanyahu is not good right now. And if if there were to be an election right now, he would lose that election. He would lose that coalition that he that he has. You know, so it it's tough, but, you know, you may not agree with them politically, but it doesn't mean you go out there and and and kill every one of them. You know? It's it's not I don't think that's the answer.
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Well, I mean, it's definitely not the answer, but the the the challenge that you have in Israel is that you have one group of people that their only form of peace is if the other group is completely, you know,
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wiped off this Earth. Right. K? And that's And the other group of people And that's just just to to bring up a quick point. That's what that whole phrase of, you know, from from the river to the sea From the river to the sea. Yeah. Is all about. And people here don't really, you know, the the the mindless students of these colleges and universities that are there, they just chant it over and over and over again without really understanding what that is. You're talking about the annihilation of a pea of an entire people.
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Yeah. But you say it in a different way. Mhmm. And, and it's okay. And so you have one group that has done the biggest mistake was they they gave in, and they gave an area called Palestine back, right, or back or to them because it I don't wanna go in that argument because when when does one country start and when does Yeah. Right. Did it? I mean, if you go back, I mean, the the the the Bible talks about Israel as the chosen people, the Israelites, the Jews, and it's right there. I mean, we have evidence. If you have religion in your heart, you're Jewish, Christian.
I think even in, in Islam. The Quran says that In the Quran, it's it's it states that. Yep. But but, anyway, if you say, okay. At this time, it was this country, therefore, it's this country now. But here in this country, then we don't yet give back Native Americans the country for the same reason. Right? Mhmm. But we find a way to coexist. So I guess in Israel, they tried to figure out how you can coexist when the Asara effect, they gave him everything, 99% of what he asked for and still didn't accept. Mhmm. You have a group that does not want peace. They want annihilation. And they gave them land without really a reason or a road map for peace. Nothing.
And within eight years, I think, a terrorist organization took over, and now we have Hamas there. Where why would Israel be better off given or or or given into anything? Mhmm. Look where they are now. Look what happened. So how do you end the war right now without the annihilation of one or the other? Because this is just gonna happen until somebody gets a dirty bomb or an atomic bomb or some sort of, destruction. At
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at what point is it too late? Yeah. Well, I think at this point, I mean, it's it is too I mean, I I think it's beyond just, okay. We're gonna stop. We're not gonna do this, you know, the book of ceasefire, you know, truce and unless I I think it's unfortunately, it's come to that point where it's gonna be one or the other. I don't like the idea of that, but I think that's where it is.
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I mean and then if you if you follow the Bible, when the when the Jews left with Moses from Egypt to Israel, Moses and his people never got to Israel. They they stood next to it. And the reason for that was that they were slave mentality. God did not want slave mentality going into Israel because it would have been just another problem. Mhmm. So he wanted the new generation with new ideas coming in to, you know, take, you know, to to to create this holy land for chosen people or whatever you wanna call it. And you have a similar situation right now. Like, you can't make peace with a group of people where the next generation has grown up from the second that they're born, that they're martyrs if they commit suicide as long as they destroy others in the process. That's very true. And it's a mentality from the second you were born. So how do you fix that? And I have friends that served overseas in Afghanistan and in Iraq, and they said it's the same problem there.
That you can't give democracy to somebody who doesn't understand it. You know, their whole lives from the second they were born, they were led to believe something. It's kinda like taking a Catholic or a Jew or anyone else and saying, you're wrong. We're gonna teach you a different way of thinking because God is not what you think. It's the same exact issue. Yeah. There from the second they were born, they were led to believe something. And now you're gonna change it for the sense of freedom, but they don't want freedom because they don't know what it is. That's right. Yeah. And also And now you have a And also democracy
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or or a republican form of government is not compatible with their religious laws, the Sharia law. No. You know? So Yeah. It it can't. So it it yeah. It's it's it's a tough situation there. I mean, I I don't know what the outcome of that's gonna be. You know, some of the some of the models, especially with what's going on with Ukraine right now, they're they're talking about, you know, Putin said today that, told, president Trump that, he has to respond to the attack that took place over the weekend, that he has to. And I understand that. You know? I mean, what would we do as as The United States if that that happened to us? You know? Right.
Much like it did, 09:11. You know, we went in and Mhmm. Not saying we were right in what we did there because it was I I don't even think we we we, followed the map of where the cause of the problem was in 09:11. No. We didn't. No. That's what I mean. That's like, you know, we didn't Yeah. Go after the root problem. We we just went someplace else, you know. But Yeah. But there was a response. That was my point. Yeah. Pearl Harbor for us, there was a response. You know? Mhmm. So you really can't look at at at Putin and say, no. You can't do this or you shouldn't do it. He, you know, he he is the president of his country. He's the leader of his country. He has to make a decision, and he cannot he I I agree with I I I don't like to agree with him, but, you know, I agree that he has to have some kind of a response to it. And then the question is Mhmm. What is that response gonna be?
Yeah. You know? And one of the models that that had have come up was, a limited nuclear strike, which, god, I don't wanna see that. Because then what because then what's gonna happen? It's gonna just totally escalate, and you're gonna have India and Pakistan shooting at each other. Two two nuclear powers. I mean, they came how close to it just a couple of months ago. Not even a couple of months ago. Couple weeks ago. Yeah. You know, you know, they'd have Iran and Israel, two nuclear powers. Mhmm. You know, it it's it's just gonna it's it's just gonna escalate. Honestly, I I sometimes I feel like I I I wish that our country was more isolationist.
You know? I know. It just just leave us alone. Just it's just Yeah. You guys kill yourselves. Fine. Let's stay out of it. But I know But
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that can't happen. And, World War two is if you follow World War two, we we tried to be isolationist. And then countries like England got attacked and France got attacked, and then they saw us as weakness. And then the Japanese, I mean, they came very close to beating us. We don't even know that as Americans and historians. If they continued after Pearl Harbor and continued going west, rather than just waiting to see how we would respond
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I think they were planning a land invasion,
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in California. So yeah. Yeah. And they thought that a land invasion one of the things that's funny is I don't know how true this is. I I heard this from an historian. I just never validated it. Was that they were concerned that if they had an extensive land invasion across the country, the country is so big, and you have a population that's all armed. Yep.
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Yeah. They said So there you go. Second Amendment. Yeah. They said there there was a there was a there was a a a firearm behind every blade of grass. Yeah. That was the that was the comment. Yeah. Oh, I love this stuff. I love I love talking about this stuff. So, Yeah. The, yeah. And exactly, the second amendment, you know, and yet you have these pushes of, you know, of the far left who wanted to disarm everybody. And look look look look how that works out in England. You know? Yeah. You know, they disarmed everybody, but yet they all these knife attacks and baseball bat attacks and, you know, you know, man will find a way to kill each other.
Exactly. And who said that? Was that Jurassic Park? I think you said that. You know, nature will find a way to kill each other. It's it's it's funny how sometimes the the the the most,
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incredible sayings come from the most ridiculous situations. Like, my favorite saying of all time is quote is from Mike Tyson, and it's so true. People have a plan until they get punched in the face. Yep.
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And it and it you know what? As as, you know, as as off as it might be, you know, from the source, at least, you know, it it's a very true statement. You know, everything Yeah. Everything goes well until until something happens that that derails you. And if you don't have a backup plan, then you're totally screwed. Yeah. You know? But, it's, I I do I do worry that, you know, like, you know, we had four years of wide open borders. You don't know who's in the country. You saw what happened this weekend with, with the Colorado guy. I shouldn't even use that because the the the media is not even using that yet. I shouldn't I shouldn't use it. Yeah.
But, with this terrorist in in Colorado, an Egyptian national, you know, overstayed his visa, you know, so he's here illegally. You know, Molotov cocktails, a flamethrower, you know, it it it's it's you don't know what's coming through. And and I I remember seeing and I I I wish I would have thought of it earlier. I would have looked for a a picture or something of it. But, they there was they they stopped somebody at the border and got him on camera talking about, you know, not knowing what was coming. And and it was like he was identified as a known terrorist.
Mhmm. But yet, you know, why did this administration or the previous administration why did they allow that? Why did they allow millions of people coming through the border not getting vetted, not being checked, not knowing who they are or where they're going? I I saw something here. Let me let me grab this. Let me see if I can find it.
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As you look for it, I think the answer is, simple. It's because that's your future voter base. Simple as that. Yeah. It's how do you keep yourself in power. And history will tell. Hopefully Found it. This will work in our favor. But I think over time, history will tell that they got this close. Just like during, JFK, how close we went to nuclear war, this country would have been overthrown just by one election,
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because I don't think if Trump want Trump didn't win this election, I don't think this country would have ever recovered. Oh, no. No. The it was done. It was completely done. I was trying to screen share it, but it's not letting me. So, Tom Homan said, today, that he's convinced that there's gonna be a major terrorist attack in The United States as a direct result of, Joe Biden's open border policies. He said it's it's coming, adding that there were 2,000,000 gotaways who crossed the border during Biden's tenure. So why did 2,000,000 illegal aliens pay more to get away? They could have paid half of what they paid to cross the border, turn themselves into border patrol agents, get released the same day, get a free airline ticket to the city of their choice, get a free hotel room, get three meals a day plus free medical care and work authorization, but yet 2,000,000 people paid more to get away.
They didn't wanna be vetted. They didn't wanna be fingerprinted. Why? And he went on to say that this scares the hell out of me, and I've been doing this for forty years. Yeah. So and that that's it's just it it just boggles the mind. And then again, of course, you know, it also leans into, you know, did Joe Biden even know what was going on?
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I mean, yeah, it's a great question. Or, what was it or what wasn't he thinking, if thinking at all? I think he was just more concerned about not defecating in his pants and how to get off the stage. Yeah. But you know? And he had his wife kinda like a mother figure, not a not a a wife, saying, oh, you did so good. He spoke so eloquently. I remember that. His last debate. Oh, yeah. That was so embarrassing. As an as an American, that was so embarrassing to see that, you know I mean, I would be so pissed off if my wife or more significant others said to to me, you did so well, which meant that she was such a she had no expectation Yeah. Whatsoever.
And since he didn't shit in his pants and he found his way off the stage, those are the two accomplishments he has. Exactly.
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This this actually came in today too. The justice department launches investigation to Biden's pardons. So let's see let's see just what Pam Bondi does with this and see how long this takes.
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Yeah. I mean, you you said something earlier about Pam Bondi, and, I've had the pleasure of meeting Pam Bondi and spending time with her. I think there's a lot more than we know. I really do. I mean, just to take to Jeffrey Epstein, take the fact that, you had Cash Patel and Dan Bongino saying that he killed himself when you know? Maybe he did, but it just doesn't add up. Right? So maybe there's something more that they have to do to hide, to protect, to shield. Who knows? That's what I think. It's just I I think they're I think
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they I I don't I don't think that's the that's the official narrative that they're keeping to. Right. I don't think that that's I don't think they necessarily believe that or that's necessarily true. I just think that's the official narrative they're putting out there.
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Yeah. And and they're stuck in you know, again, I could come up with, you know, 10 different conspiracy theories about why they're doing this, but, you know, I don't think we'll ever know. Just like what caused who caused the assassination of JFK?
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Right. No. Actually, I I like Dan Bongino. I do. I I was I'm a fan. You know, I I used to watch his his show all the time. Yeah. You know, I've been doing I've been doing podcasts since 2016. I started with a little Internet radio show. We used to call them Internet radio back then. In 2016 with a couple of friends, you know, up in New York, and we had a, you know, similar type show as this. But, you know, there was three of us, so it you know, the the play back and forth was great. And we had a good balance. I was the conservative voice. My my friend Jay was the liberal voice, and then we had another Joe who was the, the libertarian voice. So, you know, we had a really good little dialogue. It was a lot of fun.
Yeah. And then, and then I came here to Texas, so we we stopped doing the show. And then I started doing another podcast about three years ago, which it was mostly it wasn't politics at all. It was mostly, like, bible study stuff. And, the, but I I was constantly you know, Bongino is a big my long story of the story is Bongino is the is kinda like my like, kinda motivated me to well, you know what? Let's let's let's start something like that. Let's try something like that, you know, and get back into the politics and and all that. And so, you know, I have a lot of respect for him and his career. You know, we both served in law enforcement in in New York. I mean, I didn't work with him or anything like that. We were two different agencies, you know, separate in different time period. But, I have a lot of respect for him and his background and a lot of things on the show. He's always talking about, you know, there's more to the story than than what meets the eye. You know, he's one of the he was one of those guys that, you know, was like Mhmm. I don't have to be first. I just have to be right. And, you know, and I respected that, and I still do. And I and I think that's a great way to to do things. So I do have a lot of respect for him. I don't know Kash Patel very well. I just know what I know from what I've seen, you know, more recently than prior to.
You know? So, you know, I just feel like, oh, I just I just I I wish that that that they didn't have the, the muzzle on, if you know what I mean. And, all the things that he was talking about on his show, he was able to produce fast. But then again, like I said earlier, I did work in investigations and law enforcement. I understand you can't always talk about everything, you know. And the same thing with Pam Bondi too. I mean, I don't have anything personally about her, you know. I'm just pointing out the things that I've seen as far as, you know, it seems like she's on the new circuits more than anything else.
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Yeah. And I think, her position is she she she's the the ringleader of that job, and she's counting on her staff to do things. But you want the message to be heard, and you also wanna understand what's going on and what why we're doing what we're doing. So I I get it. I don't think it's something that, she enjoys being in front of a camera more than she enjoys being in the office. I I I I don't get that vibe from her. That's what she's bad about. It's just a matter of maybe what the president wants her to do. Like, we need we need people like, if we have the fake news out there, we need, the leaders of the, you know, executive branch in in in particular to to get as much press time as possible so that we can control the narrative.
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I'm not saying that's true. I'm just saying that there's more to it that meets the eye. Yeah. It's logical, and that that's good too. And that and that that's something I didn't consider before. So, you know, I appreciate that. It it's I I like I said, I just wanna see and I I know a lot of the base wants to see more action
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from the administration. Yeah. I mean, and I was very frustrated when she's like, tomorrow, Pam Bondi, tomorrow, you're gonna see all of this stuff. We're gonna unleash all the Jeff Jeffrey Epstein files. And tomorrow came and went. And it's like, where where where where was that? Like, what did we find out that other than he committed suicide? Mhmm. Like, where is the list of all the people that went to the island other than you can think of and speculate? Again, conspiracy theorists theories, but there may be some people that are I don't wanna say our side. It's that that's in office right now or that is, you know, part of, you know, making America great again, that may have been caught up in there. Yeah. Well Just saying. What what what could it be?
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That brings more reason, more suspicion. Sure. Absolutely. And yet they're not addressing it. Yeah. And I I agree with that. I I and but but then again, even if it was somebody on our side Mhmm. You know, it it it it was criminal activity that needs to be brought out and needs to be exposed. I lost you. Alright. Well, I think there he is. Waiting for him to reconnect. So, folks, while waiting for, Evan to reconnect, we've been talking with Evan Turk. Hope you guys have been enjoying this conversation. This has been, very enlightening.
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And I think we're off too. There he is. Alright. I think we got this straightened out. Let me turn the camera back on. Right? There we go.
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Can you hear me? Can you hear me? Yes. I can. Yes. I can. Yeah. I was there, and then I wasn't there. But then I heard you speaking highly of me. So I was like, should I go on? Go Yes. Of course. Of course. Yeah. It's it's always good to put a face to the to the to the to the why. So it's it's going on. I was like, I didn't say anything that offensive yet. No. No. Not yet anyway.
[01:24:54] Unknown:
There's nothing you could say that would be offensive on this show. Trust me. Yes. Yes. Go go back go back a couple of shows and and take a look at some of the conversations I've had with some guests. It's a lot of fun. I That absolutely keeps you on your toes. Right? Oh, for sure. But like I said, I don't I I I have a a, anything and everything type philosophy about this thing. We'll talk about whatever, wherever, however, doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. Like, as you could see I don't know if you see it on your end or not, but, you know, the the the tens of people that are watching. So Mhmm. Right now.
We do better actually, with, on the audio. I have a a bigger following on the audio and on the downloads or the plays after the live show. I think it's because of the time that I can do it. And the reason why I don't have to do it this time is I have a regular job, so I I work, you know, eight to five. And by the time I get out of work and to sit down in front of the studio to set the whole thing up and all that stuff, you know, it goes by pretty fast. So one of those things.
[01:25:55] Unknown:
No. I get it. I get it. I, I have that work thing too that I have to do every day. Doesn't that suck?
[01:26:02] Unknown:
Yeah.
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It does. But at least I get to enjoy what I do. I'm, you know, especially when you travel and you see and you leave this country, you realize how blessed you are to to have something that you could come home to.
[01:26:18] Unknown:
Very true. Very true. And, yeah. And and I know this has nothing to do with leaving the country, but, I went to New York, to to see to see my sister for Thanksgiving, like, a year or two ago, and I hadn't been up there for a while. And just how different New York was compared to what it was when I remembered when I left. And Mhmm. I'm gonna be honest with you. When I I could not wait to get the hell out of there. You know? Even though I was born there, I was just raised, I grew up there, that's my you know, my whole life is there. I could not wait to get back to Texas.
You know? And, I was
[01:26:58] Unknown:
I was talking to And at the fact of New York, I I I I go there. It's it's it's always been my hometown even though I haven't been there for forever. But I go there three times a year. I was there. Last time I was there was New Year's. Mhmm. And I think it's I think you should go back. I think it's gotten a little bit, more of what it used to be, versus what it was.
[01:27:23] Unknown:
Well, I'll go back for a visit, but not not to live. What's that? I'll go back for a visit, but I'll go back for a visit. No. Definitely not. Not to live. Like, I was telling a friend of mine, you know, once you get to because he was like, I don't understand why why would you leave New York? New York has this, this, this, this, and I say, I say, but Texas has freedom.
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Yeah.
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And, a better tax system. You're not paying for other people's problems. That's true. Yep. Yep. No state income tax here. You know, you you you keep more of your money. Yeah. And that's why I'm hoping that, that that president Trump goes through this promise there and, getting rid of the tax on overtime. And,
[01:27:54] Unknown:
I remember he said something about abolishing the IRS. You You know, I'm hoping that I know he didn't use those words, but, you know, that's that's kind of Yeah. I mean I mean, it just I have my own opinions on, the tax code and what it does and how you can make it better, but,
[01:28:10] Unknown:
nobody's really called me up and asked for my my my personal opinion on that matter. So I'll I'll ask you your I'll ask you your opinion on that matter. Go right ahead.
[01:28:20] Unknown:
Put you on the spot. Keeping your toes. You have to understand monetary policy, and you have to also realize that you have Florida. Let's just choose taxes because it's the same system. No tax. Right? Mhmm. You go to New York or let's choose California. You know? We can bash California. Neither one of us is from there. Okay? Correct. Yep. You have California. You have taxes upon taxes upon taxes, and yet you have more homeless people in California than any place on this in this country. You have cities like San Francisco that nobody can go to Mhmm. Because it's been taken over by, not only homeless, but just a philosophy that's anti American, anti capitalism. How do you justify feces in front of storefronts, with homeless people there and calling the cops and the cops don't do jack shit?
But yet you're paying more tax to live in that country, in that state. Mhmm. If you're at your highest level living in California, you're making a million dollars a year, over $500,000 is going to the government or the state more than 50%. And what are you getting in return? You're getting spit upon. You're not even a thank you card. The IRS or the, California's, taxes. I don't know what it's called there. It doesn't send you a letter to say thank you for that $500,000 check you just sent us, and this is how the money is gonna be used. Right? Take Texas or Florida. You know, I grew up in New Jersey, visited New York a lot. It's my where my family's from.
It's cleaner here. It's safer here. Mhmm. It's freer definitely freer. I mean, you wanna see freedom. During COVID, you understood what it meant to live under, in in the state of Florida versus what was happening throughout the rest of the country. And, DeSantis got it right, and, freedom prevailed in in in Florida. And yet in New York, you have children or in California. You pay all this money in taxes, and you can't even bring your kids to school for, what, two years in California in some jurisdictions. Yeah.
And, you know, you you you take away everyone's freedom for no one's benefit except large governments, large institutions, and, you take away capitalism there. You take away the bigger businesses there. All the businesses that really wanna be there and stay there have left. And, you know, fortunately or unfortunately in Texas, they moved. And hopefully, they don't vote like they did in California. I know. There there there are billboards all over Texas saying don't California my Texas, you know, and all that stuff. Yeah. So it's
[01:31:09] Unknown:
yeah. I think people here in Texas are are very well aware of Yeah. I mean, where are you from? You're not from Austin because I don't think they're aware in that city. No. I I'm actually right now, I live in Eagle Pass, so I'm on the border. Okay. I'm right there on the border. I'm I'm actually about less than two miles away from, Shelby Park where that standoff took place Okay. Between the feds and the and the local, and state police and whatnot. So, yeah. So it's been very interesting. I like it here. I do. It's a, you know, it's a small town. It's only about 30,000 people. Mhmm. I do miss some things about New York. I miss, I I miss the variety of Mhmm. Nighttime options.
You know, here Right. Everything closes by 09:00. You know? So so if you work late and you wanted to get something to eat, there's no diner you can go to, like, you know, corner diner or something like that and Yeah. And whatnot. And and probably one of the more depressing things when I first moved here, I like to cook. Cooking is like my my my release. So, I was gonna make this really nice Italian dish. It was a fettuccine with sweet peas, prosciutto, and a white wine sauce. Alright? Right. So I went to the local soup. There's only two places really here that, you know, like big supermarkets. You had HEB and you have, Walmart.
So, I went there, and I was like, alright. So I go I'm looking around. I'm like, alright. Well, I go to the deli counter. I say, I need a I need a quarter pound of prosciut, then sliced. And they were like, what's that?
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Exactly. I remember, I was in before I moved down to Florida, I was in South Carolina near Myrtle Beach out of Piggly Wiggly. Mhmm. And I I I'm gonna I'm I'm not good at accents, but the accent was wonderful. It was just the lady at the deli said, she goes, she goes, city boy, you gotta talk slower down here.
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Yes.
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Because I said, like, you know, growing up in Jersey, same thing in New York. You'll say, like, I'll take a quarter pound of turkey, half a pound of roast beef, and a pound of American. Yep. She couldn't
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one at a time. Way too fast. Yeah. I know. I know. And, well There's fortunately,
[01:33:25] Unknown:
where I'm from, I I'm in Boca Raton, and, it's they call it the, part of the tri state area of, New York, New Jersey, and and Boca Raton. So you could go to the Publix here, or you could go to the bagel store, and you have bagels at stores that are from New York. I mean, they taste, you always say New York bagels taste better, but you forget what they taste. You go to New York, they're like to me, they're the same. I'm I'm I'm blessed and cursed. I don't have a skilled taste bud. But bagels, they have Taylor ham or which is a Jersey thing. It's not even a New York thing, but it's just I don't know. Do you know what Taylor ham or pork roll is? Oh, yeah. Yeah. For sure. Okay. So growing up in New Jersey, especially if you had a a couple of drinks the night before or the next day, you want some grease in your system. You get a Taylor ham, egg, and cheese on a bagel. Mhmm. And, you forget you go out on the West Coast Of Florida or or other parts. You don't have that. No. And what drives me nuts is that bagels, they have I get in everything, so they're seated on both sides because that's what it's like growing up in the Northeast. Yeah. Here in Boca, it's the same thing. You'd be shocked to see see it's only on one side. But you go out West in the same state, like, how do they get away with this? Like, because I like to eat my bagels one on one, not as a sandwich.
And just all the things you get in New Jersey. You have pizza, you have brick oven pizza, coal fired pizza. If you wanna go to Miami, you're forty five minutes. That's our New York. It stays awake, stays open. There's a train walking distance from my place called the Bright Line. You can go forty five minutes tops, maybe thirty five minutes. Go right to Miami or in the heart of Miami. Go the other way, fifteen minutes here in Downtown West Palm Beach. You could go to Mar A Lago, be there in twenty minutes. I mean, it's really convenient here. You get the best of everything, plus you get the weather.
So there's really no reason to to to want or miss that area except, you'll never go take a subway to a Yankee game. Mhmm. It's it's not going to a Marlins game is never the same. Of course. I mean, you know, I I always joke. Like, if I didn't wanna wear clothes to a Marlins game, nobody would notice because nobody's there. Right. But the Yankees do play there every couple of years. They they come down. So you get to see the Yankees. If you're a Mets fan, they're always there. Yep. But it's not the same. But those are the things or Broadway in New York or Times Square or, you know, seeing your friends, having a barbecue.
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It's it's different down there. Barbecue is that's that's a staple here. This is, you know, that's all they that's all we do here is just barbecue. But, or they here they call it cookouts. So, but, but just to go no bagels here. There's no bagel shops here. If you want if you want a bagel, you gotta buy one of those prepackaged ones, like some Thomas's or something like that. Yeah. Cannot get Italian bread here? No. No. Not at all.
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What do they call them? Their sandwiches? Hoagies, grinders, subs? Subs. Or Subs. Subs.
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And then, like pizza, I I found one place here that makes decent pizza compared to the other stuff that I've had. Because the other stuff that's here is just like the the the chain stuff, like Domino's and Yeah. Yeah. Little Caesar's and places like that. But, there's one place here local, and, a good friend of mine is a is the co owner of it. So so I I was able to check it out and really good stuff, really good food. And, again, not home, but, you know, it's what it is. But, yeah, I I remember I that the first time I I I made a a handmaiden cheese sandwich with the bagel. Yeah. You know, it had to be one of the Thomas's ones, but I made that. And, my wife at the time, she was like she goes, what is that?
I'm like Yeah. It's a ham, egg, and cheese. You've never had that? No? Oh my god. Yeah. Here.
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Eat. I know. You know? It's so funny. It's so funny. And, the one thing you find in Florida that's that's different is it's, there's nothing authentic down here. So there's not like I mean, you could go to Miami and there's Cuban food, and there's a lot of, Hispanic cuisine there that's that's our authentic food, but that's not authentic to Florida. That's
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I get you.
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Yeah. No. I get you. But, like so it's funny when people come down here, I'm like, there's never let me teach show you an authentic anything here. I mean, everything's new here. I mean, there's growing up in New Jersey, I grew up outside Morristown where George Washington in the winter winter months stayed there. I know. I didn't know during the revolutionary work because before I was a history buff when I was five, six, seven, eight years old. All you see all all over that area, George Washington slept here. I'm like, what did this guy do? He just slept everywhere. Yeah. He kinda gets around. Right? He just went to people's houses and said, I'm sleeping here. I know. But but you have that history, and you really have little his I mean, you have history here. You have Henry Flagler history who founded this area.
You have Addison Mizner, but it's all nineteen twenties and for the most part and thereafter. Gotcha. So New York, I mean, or New Jersey, you'd see things that were there during the foundation of America. And then you you really put things in perspective. I mean, that's American history. It was just in Europe, and you see it's something there that's been there for it was in Prague, and you're like, oh, that was built 500 or 800 years ago. And Yeah. It's it's it's amazing.
[01:39:26] Unknown:
Here, the the the the closest big city to me is San Antonio, and that's two and a half hours away.
[01:39:33] Unknown:
Yeah. We have, it's funny. The COO of the American Rights Alliance is from your area. So when he flies out, it's he's in between Austin and San Antonio, so he has to fly out of San Antonio. Yeah. Austin is four hours away. I guess you yeah. I guess you're, a Spurs fan then and, no.
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No. I don't I don't follow I don't follow basketball at all. I just don't. I never got into it. But, you have to be a Dallas Cowboys fan. You know, that's that's a given. But my my New York team, if you wanna call it a New York team, is the Jets. I've been a I've been a Jets fan since I'm a kid. I'm a Mets fan since a kid. Yeah. My my my dad very disappointed in me, you know, because my dad was a big time Yankees fan. And, I always tell this story. I gotta tell you this story. My so my so one Father's Day, I wanted to get something really special for my dad. So I went to the MLB shop, and I bought him, an authentic field jersey, fitted hat, and all that stuff, packaged it all up. And I bring it over to the house, and, I'm sitting there, like, all giddy, like a little like a little school kid. Dad's opening up the package, and he when he gets to the jersey, he opens up, and he holds it up, and it's says Boston on it with his name on the back with a big number one stitched in, you know, field jersey with a fitted Boston Red Sox hat.
And he just looked at me. He was like, Joseph. He goes, this is great. Thank you. Thank you. Gives me a big hug and a big kiss, puts it all back in the box, takes it into the kitchen, he walks out of the room with it. And I sat there, looked at my mom, and I was like, well, that that didn't go quite the way I thought it was gonna go. So she goes, yeah. She goes, no. That didn't. And I was like, well, I did. Is he alright? Does he feel okay? She's just I was like, oh, oh, no. He's fine. He's good. And I'm sitting there talking to my mom for about a good ten minutes or so, and then and then I'm like, well, where is he? Where did he go? Because, you know, the house isn't that big, you know, where one room away. What happened to him? So I get up and I go to look, and and he's not in the house. He's out in the backyard. He's sitting at he has a little table out there. He has, you know, all his big his garden. He loves his garden. Loved his garden.
And, he's sitting out there, and he's reading a book. So, alright. I go out. Hey, dad. What's going on? Got a fire going? He goes, yep. I looked down on the fire. What's in the fire? The Red Sox jersey, the Red Sox hat, all that stuff. I was like, dad, what are you doing? Because you have much how much that cost? And And he goes, well, who's more the fool then?
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Yeah. That's a good point. And I was like,
[01:42:04] Unknown:
alright. But that that was my dad. And, Yeah. You know, but it you know, we used to have a lot of fun like that. We used to do all kinds of crazy stuff, like, just to torment each other, you know.
[01:42:14] Unknown:
Yeah. So so since you're a match, Jets fan, are you originally from Long Island? Or is No. I was born and raised in Brooklyn? Oh, yeah. That's right. You said Brooklyn.
[01:42:23] Unknown:
I was born and raised grew up in Sheepshead Bay, Brooklyn. And, Randazzo's Clambar and all that stuff. The original Randazzo's Clambar and all that great stuff. And then, I, I I worked for New York City, and I worked I worked in every borough except the Bronx, I think. I mean, it was the only borough I didn't work in. Yeah. You you live in Staten Island, the forgotten borough? I lived in Staten Island until I moved to Texas. Yeah. So Oh, yeah. That's right. You said that.
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So I was Yeah. It's it's funny. My girlfriend's a she was a former Dolphins cheerleader. Oh. But, she made the the headlines because, one of her clients, she does, public relations, and one of her clients, has a contract. They do the watches for the New York Jets. I mean, for the NFL, but they have a special contract with the New York Jets. So she had to put on all the Jets uniforms and jerseys and everything else. And, you know, the the newspapers had a field day with it. Like, she brought her former, Dolphins cheerleaders all wearing Jets clothes, and it's quite funny. And then she's, you know, doesn't know much about football, which just makes it funny. Which that is weird. You think they would. You know?
Yeah. And she's there with this picture, and she's like, who is this guy? I I I he was the nicest guy, and I couldn't figure out for the life of me. It was Wanker Bet. So
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Nice.
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You know, she was like, Sven, then there was, Vinnie Testaverde. She met him and his wife, and she's like, oh, it's such a nice guy. Here's a picture. I'm like, I can't remember who he was. I mean, I guess as you get older, you just, you know, forget. You know? Yeah. Yeah. Jets were never good when Vinnie. No. I like your The Jets. The the song Vinny and the Jets instead of Benny and the Jets.
[01:44:12] Unknown:
Oh, the the Jets haven't been good for quite a while.
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But the one thing I I I will say about Jets fans, If you meet a Jets fan, you know that person's loyal.
[01:44:24] Unknown:
Yes.
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I mean, 1969 was the last time they won you have you weren't born in '69. You've never seen them win a Super Bowl. Nope. Nope. Their best quarterback is Joe Namath. Broadway Joe. They could have had Dan Marino. They chose Kenny O'Brien.
[01:44:43] Unknown:
Yep. Let me let let me let me blow you away with something else. Do do you know who I'm related to? Wayne Cabret? No. No. No. No. Older than that. He's a he's a guy he he's the guy that that they named the NFL trophy after.
[01:45:00] Unknown:
The, Vince Lombardi trophy?
[01:45:04] Unknown:
Vince Lombardi is a cousin of mine. Really? Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Wow. So, you know, growing up, you know, even though you had your Jets stuff, or at least I had mine, my dad was a Giants fan. Everything my dad did, I was the opposite. My Jets Yeah. Jets, Giants, Mets, Yankees. Yeah. You know, New York Rangers, New York Islanders, you know, that type of stuff. But,
[01:45:27] Unknown:
That's kinda like my son in some some sports, so so I get it. So so yeah. So we had to have the obligatory,
[01:45:33] Unknown:
you know, Green Bay jerseys and all those all those things around the house and, you know, whatnot. But, but yeah. Yeah. You know, we're we're related. And, as a matter of fact, my mom, before she passed, she told me that she actually had a picture of Vince Lombardi holding me as a baby. And Yeah. And my sister and I, we you know, after after my parents passed and we were cleaning out the house, we we looked through every photo album there was, and I could not find it. So I don't know. I I hope somebody in the family has it, but, you know, it would be nice for me to have.
[01:46:06] Unknown:
Yeah. I have a a that's a similar story, but it's somewhat similar. It was 1984. I was seven years old. We flew into, Los Angeles. I'm with my mom. And in the airport, this is when the nineteen eighty four, Olympics were taking place in Los Angeles. So in the airport, I see all of the, the basketball players. They just won the gold medal. They're wearing their, warm up uniform. So the jackets with the pants that you could rip easily Yeah. To to and they're all in the airport, and they're all wearing their gold medals. So I wasn't shy when I was seven years old, and I ran up to them. And one of them picked me up, put the gold medal, and turned to my mom for her to take a picture.
But my my kids will never understand this story. They're like, why didn't your mom take a picture? I said, because people didn't walk around with cameras Right. Yeah. Back in 1984. I was like a victim of my circumstances. Right now, I would have had a thousand pictures. We don't have we didn't have cell phones. No. No. It's like I always tell my kids this. I was like, you're so spoiled. I didn't get my first cell phone until I was 21 years old.
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I know. I been
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a lot of players. And, I knew it wasn't Larry Bird. I just remember he he didn't look like Larry Bird. But when he put the medal on my neck, I
[01:47:41] Unknown:
I remember like it was the incident. Yeah. Of course. Like, I remember my dad my dad used to, my dad worked for the post office for, like, thirty plus years, but he also, on the side, he drove a yellow cab in Manhattan. Mhmm. And, So did my grandfather. Yeah. Yeah. And what so one time, he picked up, a bullpen coach for the Yankees, and it was this was 1977, I think. '78, maybe. And, it was a long drive, and, you know, they they got along really well, and he invited my dad to a game and left tickets for him at the at the box. And, you know, my dad takes me, and we got there. He and my the guy said to my father to let him know when we when we were there, get him a message that we were there, and, he'd get us into the clubhouse to meet the team. And so I have pictures with, like, Craig Nettles, Bucky Dent, Phil Rizzuto, you know, Bill White, all those guys Billy Martin. You know? I have pictures and autographs of all of that stuff.
And the one thing that stood out out of all of it is I was wearing a Mets hat. So you know? But, but I'll never forget that. That was that was an incredible experience, you know? And it's it's it's those are the things that you hold on to. You don't need a camera for those things, you know. No. I mean, that camera, that's vivid memory in my head. Yeah. It's still the camera would have been nice, though. I could've shown my children. My son
[01:49:04] Unknown:
knows every single thing, every little statistic about basketball. Nice. It's incredible. You know? And he was he could stop anyone on on my little, like, tidbits of information. Right. So he's kinda always drills me. Like, who was it? Was it this person? Was it that person? And how old is this? He knows more of the nineteen eighty four US Olympic team than I do. Who am I? He was born in 02/2013.
[01:49:29] Unknown:
Oh, okay. Okay. I was gonna He's a lost I was gonna know how old he was. Well, that's wild, man. And and and those are memories you just cherish those things, you know. And and you hope, you know, to kinda tie it all back into the politics conversation, you know, you you hope that that the generation that's coming up is gonna remember those moments that they had with with you, with me, you know, and and, you know, we should be doing the very best that we can in our generation to teach our children what this country was really all about. And Yeah. And try to and try to instill in them
[01:50:03] Unknown:
those values. And and I think if you're blessed enough that you could afford to travel, and have the ability to take your children with you, As you get older, you look at things different where money can be spent on many material things, but you can't ever get the memories like you have when you travel.
[01:50:24] Unknown:
That's true. And
[01:50:26] Unknown:
going and and and taking my children I mean, we've been in various countries. And in the last year, year and a half, we've been to, like, five countries. And, we're going we're going away on Friday to, The Middle East for the first time. And, so it'll be interesting. It'll be interesting. But, you don't understand. Like, we were just in Germany, in Berlin about six, seven weeks ago. You don't understand and this is really it goes back to the point of, you know, your show. You don't understand really what life is like until you actually been there, and you don't understand what it was like during that time until you were actually there.
And the one thing that I I didn't know I mean, I knew a lot about World War two, and I knew a lot about, how they won the blitzkrieg and that the Germans were on on crazy amounts of amphetamines, and they just didn't sleep, didn't stop. Even if they were shot, they wouldn't stop. Going. Yeah. They kept going. But what was incredibly interesting to me is they split the tour guides and, obviously, we went to the English tour guide, and he's from England. And he was telling us that there's so much political correctness in England that you don't even get an authentic history anymore of World War two. And he had to go to a special, like, international university just so that he can get a unique perspective of Yeah. The history of World War two. And one of the things he said was that we overestimate how good the Germans were in just about every part of the war except the two things was the blitzkrieg because of the euphemism and two is propaganda.
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Mhmm.
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The propaganda we saw, the Ministry of Propaganda was right there. I mean so we got to see the actual building where all the propaganda started. Right. And they they came up with I think it was I I I I I don't know. I don't recall who it was. Sometimes it's Hitler is quoted for saying it. It's Erwin Rommel. I don't remember who exactly, but, the bigger the lie and the more you repeat it, they shall, the more they will accept it. Yeah. Something to that effect. And you don't realize what's happening in this country until you travel there, and you see the actual history. Mhmm. And it's kind of like being in a room where it's completely bright out, and then somebody just comes to mess with you and just starts dimming it 5%, all of a sudden, you're in a pitch dark room and you don't know how you got there. Right? Yep.
And that's how World War two started. I mean, it was just you know, it was people that were fed up with the establishment, the decisions that were made ahead of their time that got into incredible poverty and felt like they needed a scapegoat. And that scapegoat happened to be not only Jews, but Bolsheviks, gypsies, and anyone that was not them. Right now, everyone just blames in this country, everyone just blames everyone except themselves. They don't look inside. You know? And you have a generation of victims right now, and it's the same thing. I'm not equating it to Nazi Germany, as a direct parallel, but there are some commonalities is blaming others for your problems rather than looking deep within yourself. Right?
And without traveling, without doing these things, I don't think you get a you know, without going to Germany, you don't have a good understanding of America, because America could go down that path if we allow it to. Very easily. You know, hatred's hatred on both sides, the left and the right. I think the left does a better job of making the right look bad in using things like, they have Antifa, and we have the Proud Boys. But the Proud Boys aren't is it you know, is victimized. Yeah. In its villainized, whereas the Antifa is, you know, made to seem like they're, saints. Yeah. Freedom. Yeah. The freedom fighters. Right. Yeah. Yeah. The freedom fighters. And you have the Proud Boys, and you have, you know, a bunch of groups like that. And not that I necessarily, support the ideology or even the understanding of it, but there is a lot of unknown, truth to what, you know, fundamental core principles of America that is in their, thought process.
And yet nobody really understands what their thought process is because they are equated to Nazis. And they aren't Nazis. I mean, I don't think, you know, a group that has multicultural followers, black, white, Latino as a leader, can be considered akin to a Nazi. But it's just understanding that history and seeing what's happening in this country. And most important, the ministry of propaganda, where is that coming from? And it's the fake news here. That's right. Yeah. So Absolutely. You know, when you have, you know, it doesn't matter what your political side is. It's just what matters is in your political side is you wanna believe what you wanna believe, so you come to conclusions based on those beliefs.
But when, Hunter Biden laptop came out right before an election and everyone knew it was Hunter Biden's laptop, how dare the news? How dare them, you know, say you can't release this truthful information because the ministry of propaganda or, whatever you wanna call it, you know, deemed it fake news. Mhmm. And what scares me the most under the Biden administration and the prior administration was that they had a ministry of truth. It was the same thing as the propaganda during the, ministry of propaganda during Nazi Germany, that they determined what was valid news and what was invalid news. And I was on a podcast not too long ago about AI of all things, and they're equating this as a great thing. Like, wouldn't it be great that we could eradicate all fake news? I'm like, no. You have to understand the constitution's freedom of speech. Right.
Because once you take that away, who determines what the truth is? That's right. Yeah.
[01:57:07] Unknown:
The left only believes that you have freedom of speech when it agrees with what they what they what their speech is.
[01:57:13] Unknown:
Correct. And then they use the word fascism without even understand I love Charlie Kirk and tell me what a fascist is. Why am I a fascist? Mhmm. What makes me a fascist? Yep.
[01:57:25] Unknown:
No one can answer that. Right. Because they just they just spew what they what and and parrot what they've heard, you know, on left leaning pods and left leaning shows and what their professors spew out. Because I don't I don't think they're really getting any kind of education. All they're getting, they're not being taught how to think. They're they're being told what to think.
[01:57:47] Unknown:
Yeah. And there's no I remember I remember when I was in college and I, my major was criminology because I I knew I was gonna go to law school. So I said, you know what? Let me learn about law. It was called law justice, but we joked because it was an easy major. We call it law and options. So we had a ton of options that we could choose. Right. So in a college degree, getting a a college education for one purpose two purposes. One, I have a college degree. Second is so I could go to law school. And I went to, I went to the college in New Jersey, which, was a top ranked local college, still top ranked in the Northeast, one of the top, hardest, I'm not now maybe Rutgers is, but hardest public school to get into in New Jersey, which, I mean, that's my claim to fame. Like, Al Bundy, four touchdowns, Swan Games. Right.
But, it was just at that time, I knew things weren't right. Like, when I was taking my elective classes and I took this class, and they were telling you, teaching you how to speak. And this was about, you know, LGBTQ before it was called that. And I remember having a a a professor saying, okay. You're in this party, and there are people that are, you know, straight, and there are people who aren't straight. And how do you talk to them to show that you have full inclusion? And to me, it's the same thing when people, like, tell you how to talk to, you know, black people or how to talk to Hispanic people. Like Yeah. Just be a human.
Right. That's all you have to do. You know? Don't make it an issue when it's not an issue. Right? I totally agree with that. What what what you realized then, it was just I never felt comfortable about it. But what they were doing at that time, unbeknownst to me, and what they do now is they separate everyone by identity politics. And where do you learn that when you're most vulnerable is when you're finally left your parents and you have your individual your individualism? You get to do whatever. You have no curfews. You get to be an idiot.
You you get to stay up late. Nobody's telling you what to do or what not to do. As long as you can balance that with your grades, your parents love you. Yeah. And they're okay with it. And that's the problem because then you're vulnerable to these ideologies that challenge everything you've known. And since you're in a situation where everything's great I mean, maybe your parents are paying for your college. You don't have to worry about money. Or maybe you have loans that no matter what you know, you can't get a car loan because you have no credit, but you could get a $150,000 Stafford loan. Right. Yeah. How does that make sense?
[02:00:44] Unknown:
It it makes no sense. And then and then you you bitch and complain about having to pay it back.
[02:00:49] Unknown:
So Exactly. And, you know, I keep saying that the problem is that the Stafford Loans, they said no matter what the school charges, we'll give you the loan. So what happens is they encourage these universities to increase the tuition on average 5% when the average inflation rate's 3%. So cost of a 2% differential every, what is it, every thirty six years, college gets twice as expensive to the to the dollar. So every thirty six years, if college if if we had zero inflation and college was $20,000, it's now 40,000. So debt is twice as much one or two generations down the road. Right. So now you enter the workforce, and you're competing with people with no degree because your brain wants to think you need to have the degree to get a job that you don't need to have the degree, but now you have this debt. And why do you want why does an employer want you? Because you have the debt. You need the money. You can't go anywhere else.
And that makes a lot of sense. I never thought of it that way. That's a very that's a good way to look at it. Yeah. I mean, my my my nephew is 21 years old, and I said to him, you know, he lives in New Jersey. I said, air traffic control. They need people to land planes right now. You starting salary is a 140,000. You don't need a college degree.
[02:02:10] Unknown:
It's a lot of stress, though. You know? Yeah. No no matter you know, some people, I don't know, you you know, they may not be able even no no matter how much you give them, they may not be able to handle that. Yeah. That's true. I don't know. Well, Evan, listen. We're gonna we're gonna wrap it up here. It's been over two hours. I didn't realize that. Holy cow. I know. Time flies by. It sure does. Especially when you're having fun. It was a great conversation. So, Evan, why don't you, just give us some information as where we can track you down, and then I'll make sure I include all of that in the show notes when they go out.
[02:02:42] Unknown:
Okay. So you can find me at Turk Law Group. That's my law firm. So if you, you know, are having any family issues, marital issues, or stage trust, asset protection, multigenerational planning, you wanna create a company, for your family that stands the test of time, that can leave your legacy, call me at Turk Law Group. That's my website, Turk Law Group. But on the, charity side, I am the CEO of the American Rights Alliance. It's americanrightsalliance.0rg. You could find us at donate at a r a on Twitter, and, mostly that same handle on every other social media platform, American Rights Alliance.
And, we're working right now. One of the things we didn't discuss, we, put 11, pardons in front of the president to sign this week. So Oh, praise god. Yeah. So donate to us if, if if you could be so kind. I'm I'm I'm not, I'm not too proud to to beg for that because this money is we're getting innocent people out of jail. We're defending basic rights. I have children, and I wanna pass this world, this country to them in a place that is better than what it is right now. And, we do that through strategic litigation at the American Rights Alliance.
Thank you for your time. I really do. And, great conversation. And, go Giants. Go Yankees. And, Let's go, man. Jets may the Jets still disappoint.
[02:04:22] Unknown:
Let's go Mets. Let's go Mets. Yes. Alright, Evan. Thank you again so much for your time, and I hope we can do this again sometime. So we'll we'll definitely get in contact, and this is a really great conversation. Absolutely. Looking forward to it. Alright. Thank you so much. You take care now. Thank you. Alright. Take care. Bye. Alright, folks. Well, that's gonna do it for us for tonight. We'll get into some of the news articles probably, Friday, if we can. Don't forget, though, Friday, we do have Victor Gitchend who's gonna be with us in the first hour, so make sure you check us out at 7PM central time. Alright, folks. Shout out to our executive producers, Wayne and Rosanna Rankin, to our producer, anonymous Angela. Thank you so much for all you do. Folks, great night tonight. Look forward to talking to you again Friday. Have a great night. God bless you. Take care. Good night, and goodbye.
Introduction and Show Overview
Guest Introduction: Evan Turk, Esquire
Discussion on January 6 and Legal Proceedings
Political Witch Hunts and Congressional Dynamics
Immigration and Border Policies
Middle East Politics and Israel
Global Politics and Nuclear Threats
Cultural Reflections and Personal Stories
Propaganda and Media Influence
Closing Remarks and Contact Information
