In this episode of The Joe Rooz Show, Joe broadcasts live from the Asylum Studios in Southwest Texas, bringing a packed show featuring two special guests, Peter Ticktin and Pete Turner.
Joe kicks off the show with a light-hearted introduction, sharing a personal anecdote about a recent illness that caused a brief hiatus from the airwaves. He humorously introduces the "dueling Peters" lineup for the evening and engages in a lively conversation with Peter Ticktin, an attorney and author known for his legal expertise and outspoken stance on justice and American values. Ticktin shares insights from his career, his relationship with Donald Trump, and his views on current political and global challenges.
In the second hour, Joe welcomes Pete Turner, the host of the Break It Down Show podcast, who shares his unique career journey from military service to podcasting. Turner discusses his experiences in tactical espionage and his work with veteran charities, offering a glimpse into his worldview shaped by diverse cultural interactions.
The episode wraps up with engaging discussions on podcasting, the importance of authentic storytelling, and the challenges of curating meaningful content. Joe and Pete explore the intricacies of podcasting, the value of genuine human connection, and the impact of thoughtful dialogue in today's media landscape.
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(00:00:53) Introduction and Show Overview
(00:01:47) Guest Lineup and Show Cancellation Apology
(00:07:37) Interview with Peter Ticton: Legal Career and Insights
(00:26:16) Election Integrity and Political Insights
(00:48:38) America First Ground Zero Conference
(01:03:36) Introduction to Second Hour and Pete Turner
(01:28:45) Pete Turner's Career and Podcasting Journey
(01:53:36) Dream Guests and Notable Figures
(01:57:49) Save the Brave and Veteran Support
(02:07:42) Closing Remarks and Show Information
- Wayne Rankin
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- Carolina Jimenez
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Unknown:
Transmitting live from the asylum studios deep in the bowels of Southwest Texas. It's the Joe Rooz Show. The show where we talk about anything and everything. Where nothing is sacred, nothing is watered down, and nothing is PC.
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Well, hey there, folks. This is Joe Rooz. It is nineteen zero three hours on Friday, 08/29/2025. And bringing you the best quality talk radio we could muster without all the bluster. Welcome to the Joe Roos Show. Alright, folks. Hope you guys are ready for the weekend. We have a packed show for you today. This is gonna be a humdinger of a show. In the first hour, we have Peter Ticktin. Second hour, we have Peter Turner. So we have, dueling Peters today. Just hope we don't peter out. Right? Alright. I know. Corny joke. Corny joke. I gotta stop at those.
People tell me I tell too many dad jokes. That's alright.
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Well,
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I wanna apologize to everybody for, not having the show Wednesday night. We had to cancel the show because I somehow, someway came down with a, I guess, a twenty four hour bug of flu or something. Knocked me out, man. I I I had to leave my regular job early on, on Wednesday afternoon. Got back here to the house, and I basically slept from the time I got home about 03:00 up until I don't even know. I I I just got up to take the dogs out, the kiddies, make sure they ate. That's pretty much all I did. And then got up late Thursday morning, and then here we are today. Feeling much better.
Happy to be with you guys. And, again, you know, to the guests that we had lined up for Wednesday night, we did reschedule at least, half of it. So we'll get the rest of that going on, and we'll let you know when that's gonna take place. But in the meantime in the meantime, like I said, we have, Peter Ticton in the first hour. Second hour, we have Pete Turner, and, we're looking forward to having some great conversations. I've been looking forward to talking to, Peter Ticton now for for a while. We were supposed to I don't know if you remember, but we were supposed to, have a show a couple of weeks ago, but there were some some issues that, came up. We weren't able to get connected.
And, so we had a couple of guys fill in, that knew Peter well, and we had a great conversation, a lot of fun. And then, and then we were able to reschedule for this. So this is fantastic. So we're looking forward to, getting into that conversation very, very soon, but we do have some housekeeping that we normally do. So let's do that and get that out of the way. Alright. So, folks, first of all, if you would head over to our website, joroos.com. It's right there up on your screen. Joerooz.com. Open up that web form that you see on the contact section. I want you to send us over a message. Let us know whatever's on your heart, whatever's on your mind, any questions, comments, cares, or concerns that you might have. Boy, my ears look like the taxi driving down the street with both doors open. Right? Yeah.
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So, well, folks, really excited about this. Peter Tipton, attorney, author, and veteran. He's widely recognized for his legal expertise, his outspoken stance on matters of justice, and his strong defense of American values. Beyond the courtroom, Ticton has been an advocate on issues of law, leadership, and the state of the nation. His unique perspective combines years of practical legal experience with a sharp, unfiltered analysis of today's most pressing political and global challenges. Peter served in as a trusted adviser and a voice of accountability for accountability and a thought leader who doesn't shy away from hard questions.
His passion for guiding people to see through the noise of politics and media to the heart of what truly impacts everyday Americans. Peter was a featured speaker at the very recent America First Ground Zero Conference in Las Vegas, earlier this month, and joining it joining in with names like Steve Bannon, general Mike Flynn, big fan, and, Rudy Giuliani. His latest book, What Makes Trump Tick, offers an intimate portrait of the man behind the headlines, and tonight, we're gonna get even deeper. Peter Tipton, welcome to the Joe Russo. It is great to finally have you here with us, sir.
It's really a great pleasure to be here. Well, thank you. I appreciate that. So, I have a couple of playful little questions that I like to ask every guest no matter, no matter what their, their background is. So what's something that most people don't know about you but should?
[00:09:15] Unknown:
Well, then I'm only 54 years old. Okay. That's good. And I've been 54 for twenty five years. Oh, awesome. Awesome. Well, okay. So you're so so, I I am older than you then. Okay. Very good. Yes. You are. And and I but anyone needs to know anything about what it's like being 54, I'm the guy to ask because I've been 54 for so long. For a long time. Okay. I gotcha. That's great.
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What about your, what about your go to beverage or activity you like to do to unwind at the end of the day?
[00:09:44] Unknown:
Well, that's really interesting that you you asked about beverage because, I'm drinking my my diet cherry Pepsi.
[00:09:54] Unknown:
Really? I
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it used to be Coke. Alright. Coca Cola. Okay? Until Those president of Coca Cola decided that any bag that they don't even need as a customer anymore, I figured. Okay? I remember that. If that's the way you feel
[00:10:10] Unknown:
Well somebody appreciates it. There you go. Well, I don't drink I don't drink soda. I drink sparkling water, so that's that's the best thing for me. And, that's what I mix my methylene blue with. I'm mixing it right now with some, lime sparkling water, which is absolutely delicious. Stuff's amazing. I gotta give that a try. You should. You should absolutely should. It's, it's really good product. It's, it it affects everybody a little bit differently. Some people feel like they get this, this burst of energy. Some people feel liking it to, feeling like electrical charges going through their fingers and such like, like Emperor Palpatine in Star Wars.
But, some people don't feel anything at all. Some people, you know, mild mild, feelings from it. Me, I get it puts me into a very contemplative mood, helps you focus a little bit better, And so I usually take you take in the morning before I go to work, and then I'll do it here during the course of the show. And it takes about twenty minutes or so before you really start feeling the effects of it. But it's really good stuff. It's it's quality stuff. So I would I I do recommend it. But if you're taking anything like SSRIs, I have to say this is, you know, legal stuff, and you're a lawyer, you understand. If you're taking things like SSRIs or anything like that, you need to check with your doctor first because methylene blue is known to interact negatively with SSRIs. So please check with your doctor before you try this product.
Alright. Satisfactory?
[00:11:36] Unknown:
Only on vitamins. Okay.
[00:11:38] Unknown:
There you go. There you go. So so, Peter, before we dive into the current events, I wanna start with your journey. What first drew you into into law, and what keeps you motivated in the field of law after all the years you've served and practiced?
[00:11:54] Unknown:
You know, it's it's funny. You're asking things that people never asked me about. Okay. But to to tell I'll just tell you the way it is. Okay? Yeah. I'm I'm one of those autistic kids that was completely lost. And, and I was lucky we moved from The Bronx to Mount Vernon when I was nine. And I started fifth grade. They tested me in Mount Vernon, but they didn't care about anything in the schools of New York. PS 33, it didn't matter. I could vegetate.
[00:12:28] Unknown:
I know what you mean. I'm from New York myself. That I didn't have the what's that? I'm a product of New York public school education myself.
[00:12:36] Unknown:
Alright. Okay. Well, anyway, the the I didn't have the reading ability or the math to go into grade two. You know, Out of the principal's office. And I got went in there, and my parents are there, and the guidance counselor is there, my teachers, all kinds of people there. And I'm given this information, and, they let me know I'm gonna have to repeat grade four. Okay. And so, they promised that they were gonna give me remedial math and so on, and they did. They they they did what they promised in those days.
[00:13:06] Unknown:
That's what people did. Right. They kept their word.
[00:13:10] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. It was a long time ago. And, then, they brought me at the speed. And so, I I learned how to adapt, and to become like a normal person in many ways. I'm what they call a super intelligent, autistic. Okay. So for what that means. So I was, you know, I did alright in in in school, but I ultimately, my parents wanted me to go to private school so I can get into my father's alma mater, Columbia. Okay. Okay. And I I did very well. And, I I ended up going to New York Military Academy. And that really got me in shape. Okay? That you know, you got a left turn, right turn, you know, stand up, tensions, sit down, do what you know, you've got to follow orders, and you it really helped organize my life. And that's when I met Donald Trump when I was 15 years old. The two of us were 15 in the military academy.
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Okay.
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And, and in that year, he started off with the soccer team. I think he moved over to football later, but and that's where we met. A good guy. You know? There's nothing you know? Most of the most of the guys there were just decent people. The you know? And and they weren't the crazy kinds of problems that you might see in a movie that's made to, you know, gas things up a little bit to basically put in conflicts. Third year of New York Military Academy. His fifth year, we were together. He was my captain, and I was his platoon sergeant. He made me a platoon sergeant. He he had his power.
Fortunately, I kept that job the whole year. Okay? He never fired me. I never let him down.
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You never heard those famous words. Inspection.
[00:15:14] Unknown:
Yeah. We we we did it right. We passed every inspection. And and we were inspected six days a week, not Sundays, but every other day. Saturdays were white glove inspections Okay. Where they, you know, they they they come in with wearing white gloves, and they put that they feel over your doors. They feel over your lockers. Mhmm. God help you if there's any dust on their hand on that white glove, and there never was the whole year. Not just my room, but, the the core of Cadet. And we we really we're very close in that year. Look. We're living in a situation where there's no privacy.
Mhmm. I mean, even the the basement was what we call the rear. It's all tiled. There's two shower heads, you know, cup two or three urinals, three toilets that you could sit down. No no nothing that that distinguish anything. No hanky panky. Yeah. They gave us so much saltpeter in our food that nobody you know? We we didn't know from any of that stuff.
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I thought that was a myth.
[00:16:21] Unknown:
No. No. No. No. No. No. Well, they did. They you know, a lot of the food was preserved. That's all theater in it. That was the excuse. But, no, it's not a myth. Okay. You know, and so, I I at least had I don't either that or I was too busy or too scared in my first year for sure to to be thinking about anything like that. But then I was able to I did get into Columbia University, but I was able to skip my first year of college if I went up to where my brother was in in, London, Ontario, New York at at the University of Western Ontario. And then I was able to skip my last year and get into medical school when I was when I was 20.
So I only had two years of college, but my background was all in science. That was through high school and through through those two years of college and then a year of medical school where, you know, you'd dissect the human body and you, you learn a lot about a lot of things
[00:17:19] Unknown:
I'm sure. Including
[00:17:20] Unknown:
And then, but in my first year of medical school, you know, I was realizing, you know, my father loved being a doctor, but I didn't wanna be a doctor. I didn't, I mean, don't get me wrong. What doctors do is great. I love doctors. My my two son in laws that are doctors, a daughter-in-law that's a doctor. I love doctors. But did I wanna be doing that all the time, day after day? And so a friend of mine showed me some cases in law school that he was studying, and I looked at it and I said, oh my god. This is like reading Ann Landers. This is fun. So, so, I still remember those cases to this day because Really? It it's kind of something that really fits me. Okay. You know?
And What kind of cases were they if I could ask? Oh, sure. Medical malpractice cases. It was a doctor that was accused of, sexually harassing or, you know, touching a a patient Oh, wow. In in in a room and that the doctor had the presumption of, in his favor that he didn't do anything wrong. Right. And, and there was discussion about that. So good good good for testing. Yes. Testing me. But, the you don't want anything to go by. That's great. I try not to. Yeah. So the, in my I I switched over to law school. By my third year of law school, that year, I handled 10 cases in law school. Nine of them were traffic cases. And one of them, I actually sat on a I I I I started something called the anti parking committee committee.
And, you know, we challenged the parking committee because there was a mess. You know, students, let's just say, it's probably the same everywhere today as it was then. But there are the inflicting parking regimes on people and those people who hate that. And so I did fight it, and I got the university to challenge them, and they filed, 18 lawsuits. I'm defending 10 of them. Only one of them went to trial, and I won the case in trial because it was all by contract, and you can't have penalty clauses and contracts. And so I won that case. I won all of the nine traffic cases as well. I mean, you know, it was just what I it's it it I just fit in a courtroom. I know how to, look, who are the best cross examiners in the world? You know who they are? They're not people that went to law school. They're mothers of teenagers that stayed out all night or, you know, 02:00 came in from the morning, Right? Yeah. My mom was great at questioning.
Yeah. Yeah. Of course. You know, those are the great cross examiners of all time. And so I'm almost as good as those mothers in my you know, just have that ability because of my disability, because of my difference from the way I think as an autistic person from the way that other people think. I mean, I'm I'm still like a normal person. I'm happy. I'm sad. You know? Yeah. I'm not some kind of a freak, but at the same time, I'm kind of a little bit more
[00:20:45] Unknown:
without the, obsessive compulsive things. You remember the character on TV, Monk? Oh, yes. Yeah. Yeah. Right. Right. I used to watch them all the time. Yeah.
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So if somebody says something to me in in cross examination that doesn't quite fit, I I see it. I, you know, I I gotcha. And it's still so that made me kind of special in what I did. And then when I started practicing law, I did it as a barrister in Ontario. Okay. And in my first year, I defeated the uniform traffic ticket. So it was ticket's ticket, and that got a lot of attention. So I had this meteoric rise. You know, you have to understand every single court in the land, the judge was going case dismissed, case dismissed, k whether they showed up or not. Case dismissed, case dismissed. Stamped case the stamped case dismissed. Mhmm. And, they didn't even have a new ticket that they could use for about a year and a half after that case because they had to be approved by the legislature.
So that took a a long time for them to get that. So people weren't getting tickets, and nobody had to pay their tickets.
[00:21:52] Unknown:
And so I Which was like that over here for sometimes.
[00:21:56] Unknown:
Well, it it was it was fun. Let's say let's put it that way. Yeah. It cost the profits millions of dollars, but I'm sure they made it up in the future. Oh, I'm sure they did. Yeah. I don't think they're suffering. So although that's Ontario, it's a whole whole different world now than it was then. Believe me, it's come that Canada, I'm I'm sorry to say, is is lost. Okay? The freedom of speech does not exist in Canada anymore. Yeah. Yeah. You know, that you know, speaking to at the function there, there was one of the other the other speakers, but I got to know him. And I I think I'm gonna end up representing him.
But he's looking for asylum because as a trucker, he was he's charged with defenses of insurrection against the government. And so they're gonna put him away for a long time if they get him. And so he's down the states now seeking us. And I think it's the first case ever where somebody was asylum from Canada.
[00:23:02] Unknown:
Really? Think about that. That's that's interesting. I I I I never considered that. I I never considered somebody from Canada looking for asylum in The United States. I I never would have thought that.
[00:23:14] Unknown:
Yeah. That's amazing. Well, you know, we we we were this close to losing our country altogether, you know, if Donald Trump hadn't won the last election. Right? Two things. Number one, he was, you know, it was too big to rig. But number two, there was some things that happened to some computers in, I think, Belgrade Serbia. That's a whole other story.
[00:23:42] Unknown:
Yeah. We'll we'll have to save that one for a little later. Save that for another day. Yes, sir. We'll have to save that for when you come on the show and we do, just a two hour thing, just the two of us. That'll be awesome. Yeah. Interesting conversations. So so let me ask you this. So so, you know, people know you as someone who doesn't like to mince words. Has there ever been a case or, or I guess a moment of your career where speaking the truth came at a real cost to you?
[00:24:09] Unknown:
Well, right now, I have Judge Scrivens, Mary Scriven, in Tampa, federal court judge who's an activist judge. Mhmm. Even though our case had nothing to do with politics, the other side moved for rule 11 for my not doing a pre suit, claims analysis in a a patent case. And, and she just, decided that I need to pay the other firm $321,000 for not doing the presued claims analysis that I did do. But she when she saw that I was the one that filed the lawsuit for Donald Trump against Hillary Clinton, that's all she needed. Then I was her enemy. Right. And and this this judge is, you know, what can I say?
[00:24:56] Unknown:
Out out to get me in a sense. It's I think it's incredible these all these activist judges that that just insert themselves into into into the political side of of government when they should just be focusing on the judicial side of government. It just drives me crazy.
[00:25:14] Unknown:
Right. The the thing is that they they know that they can do this with impunity. Right. And what they don't know is that they can't.
[00:25:23] Unknown:
K. So so they think they can do it with impunity, but the reality of the matter is they really cannot. Right. You know, I I remember speaker Johnson, if I can interrupt for a second. I remember speaker Johnson early in the, early in this administration saying that, you know, Congress has the authority to, basically shut down district courts. And, so I'm wondering when that's ever gonna happen. Do you think that's ever gonna happen?
[00:25:47] Unknown:
I I you know, something I haven't broached that topic with the people that I talked to in in Washington, but, you know what? I wouldn't be surprised. I could tell you something's gonna happen, and there are some judges who are actually part of the conspiracy to commit the insurrection that occurred in 02/2020. Mhmm. Because 2020 wasn't just somebody stealing an election. No. I can
[00:26:15] Unknown:
do you mind if we go segue into that? Oh, of course. Yeah. No. Yep. Floor is yours, sir. I I am I am your student right now. I'm gonna get my notepad here. I'll here we go. Okay. Well, remember, you're older than I am. Well, yeah. Look. You know, you can learn you can learn from anybody. So
[00:26:36] Unknown:
Okay. Joe Biden didn't fix the election. Mhmm. Okay. Joe Biden couldn't fix a flat tire. That's true. Okay. That that man's useless. I mean, before he lost his demand, it became completely useless during the course of his presidency. You know, he could still pull it off a little bit at in the year of the election in 02/2020. Right. I agree. I mean, he was partially gone by then, but and had to be handled. But, but it he he's not the one that did this. And if you wanna know who did it, I'll tell you, but it'll be scary. Let's go. We don't we don't run away from things here on this show. Okay. Well, I'm sure you've discussed this with other guests, and you know about the World Economic Forum. Yes.
Okay. And you know that China has a good part to play in that. Yes. Very good part. At this point, the World Economic Forum was just taken over by Alan Fink, who's also the CEO of BlackRock, which has $11,600,000,000,000
[00:27:52] Unknown:
in it.
[00:27:53] Unknown:
So, you know, if you start thinking about what what what is that? What is that? What is what is a trillion? What's a billion? What's a million? Okay. So let me do this to help your guests for once and for all, okay, to understand this. A million dollars, boy, I would really happy to have a million dollars right now coming. Okay. You take a thousand dollar bill and I put another thousand dollar bill on top of another, top of another. You make a pile of a thousand of those thousand dollar bills. That's a million dollars, and it's eight and a half inches high.
[00:28:26] Unknown:
Okay. K?
[00:28:28] Unknown:
Nice little pile here. Here's a here's yeah. This is for you. Oh, thank you. Okay. Alright. I wish. So you have mute me both. It's a lot of money, a million dollars. Boy, that could change everything about a person's life. Sure. To get to a billion, keep adding to that pile. And that pile will be far taller than the Washington Monument, which is 550 feet because eight and a half thousand inches is over 700 feet. Wow. Okay. Okay. Got it. Alright. But then just keep adding to it. To get to a trillion dollars, that's a 132 miles.
[00:29:13] Unknown:
Wow.
[00:29:15] Unknown:
That's that's Eight and a half inches versus a 132 miles is a difference between a million and a trillion. That's about half the distance from where I live
[00:29:24] Unknown:
to San Antonio.
[00:29:28] Unknown:
Well
[00:29:29] Unknown:
So I have an idea.
[00:29:31] Unknown:
You got an idea. Yes. And when you're talking about one you know, so so when we look at this, okay, and we look at these monies, take a look at ActBlue. ActBlue is the money laundering organization that feeds the democratic causes. And it's already been known for some of its wrongdoing. The first thing we heard about was like some grandmother who donated $5 three times. Kind of like some of the things that you see with Donald Trump that he puts on, you know, donate, donate, donate, you know, we get we all get it. And, the records of ActBlue, though, show that she was donating something like 10 to 30 times a day and something like $10,000 a shot. This lady, you know, was lucky if she could afford $5.
Well, I think I remember this story too. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It was public news. And so what happened is they they figured it was the cartels that were basically laundering money. Then they found another scheme that they were doing. Alright? So not only were they doing this with the the old ladies names using other people's names to basically donate money from illegal activity, They think that they as I said, the cartels, that means drugs and it means human trafficking Right. Which is what the Democrats may be about. So what we're talking about, the new activity that we that was discovered with with someone would buy a house for $300,000, and then they would put a mortgage on that house and refinance for a larger amount, like $300,000,000.
Okay? Believe it or not. And so this was major, major, major, massive money laundering that was going on in ActBlue. Mark Finchem was a state senator in Arizona. He basically put it I don't know if you know Mark. Have you ever met him? I don't know. I haven't. Oh, you might want him on your show sometime because he's fascinating. Mark Finchem? Mark Finchem, f I n c h e n. But they his organization, they they they were investigating all of this, and they counted it up and counted up to over oh, before I tell you one thing, I the Toronto Dominion Bank was actually fined during Biden's administration. Somehow, the phone asked me under Biden, they will find a billion dollars.
So that was pretty big. Yeah. But but they got caught. All of the things I'm talking about. Okay? This isn't just private information that I found out about. But the new information I have is that $1,600,000,000,000 passed through there. That's far more than any cartels could possibly the cartels could have possibly come up with 200,000,000 maybe. Or I'm sorry. 200,000,000,000 maybe, but but not more than that. 1,600,000,000,000.0?
[00:32:47] Unknown:
Trillion.
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The understanding is that it it was more than likely that this comes from China. Wow. So here we have a country, you know, China who intentionally sent its virus to The United States Mhmm. Imposed a biological weapon on us. We don't know for sure. Nobody has evidence to show it was intentionally released. Mhmm. We don't know if it was intentionally released from Wuhan or not. We understand that it came originally from The United States. We know Fauci's fingerprints are all over it. Right. Another man who should be prosecuted.
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Lord willing.
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A lot of deaths. That's, that's one of the most despicable
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human beings on the planet if you ask me. Yeah. I've I've I've been recently looking into his background a little bit more, and just just the things that I've I've I've been reading and just learning about this man, it's just it's just disgusting. All the way back to to to HIV, AIDS, medications, and then this thing with remdesivir, which I I learned was was, an Ebola medication that in the test subjects, fifty four percent of the test subjects died.
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No. They they killed people. Yeah. They they needed to kill them to scare them to take the jab. Jeez. Okay. And there are different theories as to why that that jab was pushed. You know, it could have been just for profit. Mhmm. But it also could be because there's something much more nefarious about what that jab's all about. But meanwhile, it'll be because that's what the World Economic Forum is all about. They wanna reduce the world population to 500,000,000,000. They wanna take you know, they want 15 out of 16 of us to go bye bye. Yeah. Georgia Guidestones. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. There. And also from, Bill Gates' mouth. That's right. Yeah.
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Alright. Wasn't it Bill Gates who said that through vaccines, we can we can, decrease population or relieve population?
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I'm not sure, but there is a mechanism that the mac the vaccines could work. You know? So if you get the people you want to get rid of to take the vaccine and you don't take the vaccine, it they could have the seed of death in it. We know that we have about twice the death rate that we otherwise would have had. Mhmm. It doesn't show up in huge, huge numbers, but most of us know of somebody that shouldn't have died Yeah. That died, younger than they should have. We know of people that had the shot, and within hours, they did. Mhmm. Some you know?
And also we know that the that the that the vaccine or whatever it is that causes, you know, the the spike proteins to be manufactured and where tends to generate, to move towards the ovaries in women. Yeah. Not so much the sexual glands in men, but to all reason women. So, you know, like these people are all obsessed and believe in global warming, which may or may not even be true. You know, you don't have to not believe in global warming or believe in it. But if you look at the evidence, you know, there's some truth to it. Otherwise, these people, some of them very intelligent, would not wouldn't believe it. Right.
They believe it. It's become their religion. They believe that if they don't, reduce the population that the global warming will ultimately reduce it to zero and can only kill everybody, kill all the animals on the planet and so on and so forth. And they feel that 2030 is the is the end time. So, you know, they're gonna run out of time because we'll be past a point of no return. And they have feedback mechanisms that they can deal with and so on to basically come up with these principles. I mean, you have to understand your enemy. And so just denying global warming doesn't really help. You gotta understand global warming in order to understand who these people are and what they're doing and what they want. But you've got it you know, so I I didn't intend to get into all of that in this discussion because Okay. You know, some of this isn't proven, but I have seen, I I I have seen a video of a member of the World Economic Forum speaking to a group of new members. I mean, there's only a 100 members technically. But so whatever position they get, you know, some memberships of some some sort.
And what he was explaining was what we needed was a means of reducing the population without violence. And now we have it. Right. And they're all excited about it like that, you know, trying to gin up some enthusiasm. So perhaps, perhaps there's something there is something called the ADE, antibody dependent enhancement. I don't know that you've heard of that. I have. Yeah. Okay. So, you know, that's what happened to the ferrets in 2002 after COVID two, which was SARS.
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Mhmm.
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They did make a vaccine, and they did use unlike our recent vaccine, which is no vaccine at all, but unlike the recent one where they did not they were not required to use any animal studies, They did use animal studies in 02/2002, and, they used ferrets because it had to be kind of in the cat family. You know, dogs don't get it, but lions in the zoo do. Oh, gotcha. And and so they use ferrets as laboratory animals to that they experimented with that vaccination. And that, again, it's not really a vaccination, but whatever it is. And they found that the well, all the ferrets died.
You know, they did alright with the side effects, but when they were exposed to another coronavirus, they all died. Wow. So if that's the case and where those who got the jabs are exposed to a similar kind of other coronavirus, then the thought is that they could have ADE antibody dependent enhancement, which is what what happens. So instead of instead of the antibodies working in your favor and gobbling up the viruses, they become pals to the virus, and they let them through the cell walls, the difficult part for a virus. Right. Okay. And so once in the cell, it's a smorgasbord for them. You know? They eat up. They gobble up all of the all of the amino acids, and they reform them to be identical to their DNA and because bacteria viruses do have DNA.
In fact, all it is is proteins around the surrounding the DNA. It's not like a cell. And, but it does reform. And and and then voila, you have all of these coming out of the cell and the antibodies let them all into other cells. So you end up with what would be mathematically called a geometric progression. Mhmm. And with that, you get something called the cytokine storm, and that leads to organ failure and death. So, you know, so if any of your viewers have seen, have have had the jab, and, they they start seeing that something new is on the horizon where, it it's having a terrible effect. You know, people are dying, and then make sure you've got a really good supply of ivermectin or Yes.
Hydroxychloroquine hydroxychloroquine, be because, that may be necessary to save you. I remember when,
[00:40:37] Unknown:
when when COVID first came about, I didn't get the vaccine. I don't even I don't I don't even like calling it a vaccine. It's it's a gene therapy.
[00:40:46] Unknown:
Exactly.
[00:40:47] Unknown:
I got it on the first round. My my regular job is I work in a health care facility, nursing nursing facility, and part of my job is handling biohazardous materials. And so, of course, when this when this virus was running around our facility, you know, I I have to deal with this. And, no matter how much protection you wore, I call it the marshmallow suit, you know, you wore big white suit, the face shields, the goggles, the mask, the gloves, all that stuff, you still get sick. You know? So, so I got it the first round, and it it it knocked me out for a little bit. Like, I like, I felt I felt really, really bad. Like, I I was I knew I was sick.
I would like it more like to a a very bad flu, but, my doctor actually prescribed me the hydroxychloroquine, before the before the CDC said, no. You can't. You know? And then they they they took it off the, off the schedule. So they gave they gave me the hydroxychloroquine and, the antibiotic, the steroid, all the stuff that they recommended at the time. And, I'll I'll be I'll be very honest with you. After I by the time I was ready to take my second dose of the hydroxychloroquine, I was already feeling well enough that I was able to get up, and I was able to clean and straighten up my house, you know, and and and start getting my life back. And then, of course, all of a sudden, they took that off. No. No. No. We can't have too many people getting healthy again. We gotta keep them getting sick. This way we can keep pushing this this, this gene therapy and get more people infected with this stuff.
I think it was all planned. I think it was the whole the whole purpose of it was to, for for control, and I think that a lot of the lockdowns and, and and the mandates that were put in place was a test run to see just how far they can push people before they started pushing back, for what I think is a lead up towards and, you know, people are gonna think I'm a crazy conspiracy theorist on this one, but, you know, most of the conspiracy theories you hear these days are actually true, just to to push us into that that, WEF agenda twenty thirty, mindset, you know, where you'll have you'll own nothing and you'll be happy. Everything will be micromanaged for you by some oligarch somewhere else, where they'll control everything. And and, you'll have to live in these little fifteen minute cities in these super small apartments, and you'll have to do all these things that they tell you to do. You'll have your social credit score. You'll have, you know, you'll have a digital currency where if if you don't, if if you if you violate if if you go into wrong think, you know, they could shut your bank account off. You won't be able to buy, sell anything, take care of yourself until you tow the line. There'll be no purpose
[00:43:30] Unknown:
Mhmm. That that there's no reason for them to keep you. Right. They they all have to grow food, and they'll have to do what's necessary to keep you. And that's one of the reasons that people don't keep people after they're in concentration camps. Mhmm. They eliminate them. Right. So, you know, I mean, unless there's some reason or purpose to to keep you, we're going to be in a very society, you know, once we're dealing with AI, AGI, ASI. Mhmm.
[00:43:59] Unknown:
You you know what AGI is? I've heard of it. I'm not too really too familiar with it though.
[00:44:03] Unknown:
That's when AI gets to a level that it knows as much as the top specialist in every single specialty in the world. Okay. So the top, cardiologist, everything that that guy knows,
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the computers know that and more. Well, I I think we're very close to that to be already. I don't think we're too far off from that. It's coming in February. They it's estimated to be next year at 02/1926.
[00:44:30] Unknown:
There you go. And then they, the next step is ASI, artificial superintelligence, which is the old knowing pretty well everything there is to know and putting it together association with you can combine facts and and you can figure things out. I don't know how long it's gonna take to get to that, but they figure it could be as little as hours or maybe months before we get to that from the time that we reach AGI. So so it's a new we're coming into, and, people are already having fun. I hate to say get into this. It sounds so depressing and so awful. But, you know, the fact of the matter is is with this life, there's hope. Of course. Yes. And and, and we have a great deal to to live for. And this will be a great
[00:45:28] Unknown:
this will be a great topic of conversation for us when we can spend the full show together, and, you know, not have to break in an hour, because this is a great topic. This is very important. This is this is what's going on in the world today, and we need to be prepared for this. We need to understand what direction we're going. You know? Right.
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But right now we're in a war. Right now we're fighting the enemy Mhmm. That took over America for four years. I mean, if you just if you don't think that some foreign power took over America for years, let me just ask you one question.
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When did it a good idea to open up the southern border of The United States and let anybody walk in? Yeah. I think When did it become a good idea? Yeah. I think president Trump said it himself that, you know, Joe Biden Joe Biden wouldn't have done that on his own. Even Joe Biden, no matter how liberal or or far left he is, he would never have done that.
[00:46:20] Unknown:
No. No. But if we're looking at a foreign power that doesn't mind sending fentanyl and killing a 100,000 young men in America a year Mhmm. A million of them in a ten year period I agree. Okay, of military age getting rid of our our capacity to be able to defend ourselves every way they can.
[00:46:42] Unknown:
You know, just think about where they are and what they're doing. I I read it. There was an estimate. There's 52 to 55,000,000, illegals in this country, illegal aliens in this country right now.
[00:46:56] Unknown:
And we have no idea about a lot of them. Mhmm. Okay. We know that there there are ill infantry educated, infantry trained
[00:47:05] Unknown:
young men Yeah. From different countries, from Venezuela, from China that are here in America. I wish I would have thought about this when we were I was doing the prep for the show. I I would have tried to find some clips to to to to display, but, I do remember seeing, one, Middle Eastern man, outside, outside the border in Mexico, talking about that this country has no idea what's coming, but he did.
[00:47:32] Unknown:
Yeah. Because he was with him. He could see them. Yeah. You know, there was one show that I saw, one news show that I saw where they were driving down and showing the different people that were there that were waiting. And they said they're every 20 feet, and sure enough, they were there every 20 feet. There was another as though of somebody in a military outfit Mhmm. Said spread apart 20 feet because they weren't twenty five and fifteen here. They were exactly 20. They were, like, every one of them, just exactly 20 feet apart. And and, about every one out of three, we're standing at ease. Okay? Now when I say at ease, I'm talking about the military position of at ease. Mhmm. Okay?
Then, at ease. Yes, ma'am. So, where your hands are behind your back and they're they're standing there. You're you're loose and you're easy. You can move around, but your hands are behind your back in a way that most people don't do that unless they've been trained, unless they've had some military training.
[00:48:30] Unknown:
So, again, exactly where that all is, but we need to be a little bit more weary, as to what the heck's going on. I agree with you. Now we only have we only have about ten minutes left, so I wanted to kinda if we could just jump ahead a little bit here, I wanna talk to you about the, America First, Ground Zero Conference that you that you attended. Tell us a little bit about that experience. What was that like to be a part of that event?
[00:48:56] Unknown:
Well, it it you know what? It was wonderful because, you know, it's kinda like when you go to a Trump rally or that or or, you know, everybody around you pretty well is of a similar mentality that had that sees the same truth, that isn't full of deceiving themselves. And so it kind of it's really wonderful to be among people that are like minded in that way. I just had so much fun being with you know, my Michael Flynn is a friend of mine. Rudy Giuliani, I don't know that well, but this time, we got to know each other a bit better. Roger Stone, you know, was there.
But then the number of people that were there that that understood where we are and what kind of a situation we're in right now,
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it made made it into a really wonderful time. Did you have any conversations that, or were there any moments that really just, like, stood out to you as as especially impactful?
[00:50:02] Unknown:
Well, you know, I'm kind of on the cutting edge as is. You know, I I I do speak to to Michael Flynn, on a regular basis, and, it's funny because he and I come to the same conclusions. You know, he gets there through intelligence. Mhmm. You know, things that you know, where he learns what's going on. And I get there with much less intelligence, but more deductive reasoning. But we end up ending up in the same Same point. Understandings.
[00:50:32] Unknown:
Interesting. That's interesting. Yeah. Yeah.
[00:50:35] Unknown:
And, and and and he's of the same school that I am in terms of what I was talking about before. That there's one pivotal point and what that pivotal point is, which is that we have to have a fair February.
[00:50:51] Unknown:
Yeah. I think the Democrats can do whatever they can to try to steal this thing. I I I don't think they're gonna be able to. I mean, especially if they keep pushing the platforms they're pushing, they're gonna have to try to steal it.
[00:51:01] Unknown:
No. They have a cap. They have a capacity of stealing it if we use the machines and and the, the voter rolls. Yeah. They're they're all corrupted. We we've got hundreds hundreds. I'm gonna say hundreds of thousands, but, really millions and millions and millions of nonexisting people that are in the voting roles. Well, not only that, but also you have a lot of these a lot of these blue states are allowing,
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the illegal aliens to, to register to vote.
[00:51:29] Unknown:
Right. Well, that's not gonna happen if we have our if if the president does what I'm hoping
[00:51:36] Unknown:
that that he does, because everything hinges on this. Yeah. I I agree with you. And and from your mouth to God's ears, I hope, you know, that that he can pull it off this way. We have to preserve our elections. The there there is no there is no America without free and fair elections.
[00:51:52] Unknown:
No. We'll we'll we will go right back to we'll end up with a president, Harris or the like Mhmm. Of her. And, you know, they will see us, anybody that like Trump, as an enemy of the state. In fact, Trump himself will be considered an enemy of the state, and he'll he will have a terrible fate as well. I mean, this is not you know, but they tried to shoot him. We know of two occasions. There's also a third where this fella remember, he shot his parents and Yeah. The next person he was going after was the president and vice president.
[00:52:32] Unknown:
So My concern is my concern is the midterms right now. And I and I've been saying that since since, since the president was sworn in is that now we gotta start focusing on the midterms because, we have to keep the house. We have to keep the senate. And, because if we don't, what's only gonna end up happening is the next two years of president Trump's, second term, all we're gonna hear from the Democrats are impeachments, because they and and I say that because they've already tried it several times. Representative Al Green seems like every other week is filing articles of impeachment.
You know, so I I so I think it's it's critical
[00:53:14] Unknown:
You're exactly correct. You're exactly correct. What what they could do is they could actually take over a super majority of this of senate as well and actually have them removed.
[00:53:24] Unknown:
Right.
[00:53:25] Unknown:
And then once that happens, then they can reinstate some of the things that were going on in the criminal courts. Mhmm. And before you know, he he'll be behind bars. Yeah. This this is this is what they want to do. Okay? These are not pleasant people. These are people who have weaponized the government against people. And in the event that they should take over again Mhmm. The test time will look like the the good old days to everybody. Okay? Because everybody's gonna be at at risk, and people are gonna be picked up. If you're not thinking and acting exactly according to Hoyle, you're gonna be in danger and, you know, and that's only if all these other possible things that they're planning
[00:54:09] Unknown:
don't come about. Yeah. I agree with you. I absolutely agree. Alright. So, man, we're out of time already. I can't believe that. We didn't we didn't get to your book. We didn't really talk about the other stuff that we're gonna get to. So, let me let let me get let me get to this question. Let me ask you about your book. Let's let's take a couple minutes for that. So you you wrote What Makes Trump Tic. You lived through a lot of it, and, you've known Donald Trump personally. What inspired you to to finally put those stories and insights into a book?
[00:54:45] Unknown:
2020 was coming. Okay. And I need to do whatever I could do to help in that election. Oh. We we we needed to make sure we won it. It was devastating to lose it. But, you know, strangely enough, maybe we're all better off in a way. Maybe the world needed to see maybe our world needed to see how stupid, how destructive, the Democrats could be if they actually got to win an election. You know, they're saying things like we're gonna open the border, and nobody got you know? It it it it it it it wasn't registering. But the fact of the matter is we didn't lose that election.
I I promise you, we did not lose that election in terms of Not at all. The people that voted out no. By for Trump, by far, outvoted Biden. Biden didn't get 81, million votes. That that did never that never happened. No. And you're gonna start seeing the proof come out. The the the trial for Stephanie Lambert, where they're trying to Tina Peters her Yes. Put her beyond bars for having the tabulation machines. It's gonna start coming out in there. It's gonna come out in other places. Perhaps Donald Trump will make it well known. I I I I think that that that's kind of the works eventually.
And you're gonna see what really happened thousand twenty are that election was stolen
[00:56:08] Unknown:
by far. Oh, and I absolutely agree with you. I mean, it it just you just look at the at the logistics of the whole thing. It there was no way. I I was watching the feeds, and I saw the counts change. I I was like, wait. What? I I I just went to the restroom. I came back and and all of a sudden it's flipped the other way. How is that how is that possible?
[00:56:28] Unknown:
You know? One person could take off and get more and more votes, but there's no way that the person loses votes. No. Exactly. Exactly right. And I remember seeing that, and, it it was it was so heartbreaking
[00:56:40] Unknown:
to to see it happening and realize that, you know, in that particular moment, our country descended into a banana republic.
[00:56:50] Unknown:
Or worse. Or worse.
[00:56:53] Unknown:
I was being polite. Well, Peter, we're we're gonna have we're gonna have to, end this out here right now, but I definitely wanna have you back. Like I said, we gotta I'll I'll talk I'll talk to your people, and we'll get something set up where I can have just the the exclusive with you because I because there's so much that we agree with and so much that we could talk to we talk about. I would really love to get into your brain some more. So, why don't you tell us where we could, find your work, your book, where we can reach out to you, any contact information you wanna give out.
[00:57:26] Unknown:
Okay. Legal brains. That's all you need to know. Alright. Lawyers that my firm have brains, so we've got legalbrains.com.
[00:57:34] Unknown:
So we got you at legalbrains.com. We also have you on Facebook as, it's the the Ticton Law Group. On x, you're at legal brains and Instagram as well at legal brains. Peter Ticton, thank you so much for taking the time to be with us tonight. I really did appreciate this, and you have a great night, sir, and we look forward to talking to you very, very soon. Thank you. Legalbrains.com. Thank you. Alright. You have a great night. Thank you, sir.
[00:57:59] Unknown:
Bye bye.
[00:58:03] Unknown:
Alright. Folks, Peter Ticton. Check out his stuff. This this I was so looking forward. I was so excited to talk to Peter today. And, that's like I was a giddy school kid running around the the regular job telling everybody, hey. You gotta check out the show tonight, and I don't think anybody did. But, but, you know, it was a great, great experience, and I and I look forward to really spending some some more time with him. And, we'll we're gonna have to block out an entire show just so I can talk to him. This was great. Really and I had so many more questions for him. There were so many things I wanted to talk to, but, man, I just I I you know, with with a with a mind like that, you don't wanna stop him when he's on a roll, and I didn't wanna interrupt, and I was learning so much. I got some really good information here, so I'm excited about what the future conversation is gonna be. Alright. So what we're gonna do here is we're gonna take a short break. We'll do a chair break. I'm not gonna put a screen up. I'm just gonna step out for a second, refill my coffee, hit the little boy's room. And, when we come back, we'll have Pete Turner join us for the second hour. And, so in the meantime, don't forget folks, this is a live show weeknights at 7PM central time.
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Alright? And your show stands out for its, its rotating cohosts. Pete's rich experiences extend beyond geopolitics. His expertise shines in tactical espionage, US travels, and engaging discussions on politics and life. With over seventy months of military service and a thousand combat patrols thank you for your service, brother. I appreciate it. Pete's journey evolved from counterintelligence roles in Afghanistan, Bosnia, Herzegovina, Egypt, Germany, and Iraq. Pete also dedicates his time to save the brave. Since 02/2020, Pete has participated in the ride for the brave, take taking him and a group of veterans across country, fundraising, gathering, and healing.
Pete is often found on the road working in the service of others. So let's welcome our guest, Pete Turner, to the show. Hey, Pete. How you doing?
[01:06:44] Unknown:
Thanks, man. I appreciate you having me on the show. And I you and I both know what it means to do these things. It's not easy. It's constant chaos. And so to to get a few minutes with you in front of your audience, it means a lot to me because it's it is a lot of work to do what we do. And and, I really seriously but I slow down and always say this because it means something to me, but I appreciate everything about this. So thank you. This is great. Great way to spend Friday. Hey, and I appreciate it. Yes. You got your coffee. I'm gonna have a little wine with you. Well, well, you know what? I'll be honest with you. Normally, I have some bourbon.
[01:07:16] Unknown:
Okay. But I I am doing the very best I can to not have bourbon. So so, so Mine's apple juice. Don't don't worry. We're not Oh, no. Wine's fine. I'm good with wine. Okay. Bourbon's the weak spot. See, I I like to spend my weekends with with some bourbon, cigar, sitting by the grill with a beautiful woman, just relax. You know? Yeah. That's the way to do it. It's pretty close to perfect, man. It's it's there. And plus I live in Texas, so can't get any more perfect than that. So, it's great. It's a wonderful thing. Yeah. So, so, I usually like to ask oh, actually, before we get to that, you know, you talk about people don't really know what goes into putting on a show.
You know? Yeah. Whether you're recording a show or you do a live show, people don't really understand how much time actually goes into it. I work a regular forty hour a week job. You know? I'm on call I'm on call twenty four seven because of my my title position, which is fine. It's not something I'm not used to doing. I've I've I'm retired New York City law enforcement, so, you know, I have I I know what it's like. But, I do a regular forty hour a week job, and then I do the they do the prep and the and the and the the setup for the show. I have a I have a producer who helps me out, Angela. She is great, and we always give her the shout out. She's anonymous Angela. She doesn't want us to give out her name, so we do it anyway. But so we just put anonymous in front.
So anonymous Angela helps me out tremendously. She does a lot of the backgrounds and research for me and helps me put the things together. She's fantastic. I have my team of executive producers only because they contribute money. So they they bought their titles. No. But they they're great. They they're really supportive. So I have I have a good team, and I appreciate them. I just wish that I had them here with me when I'm doing the show because it would be easier if somebody was watching the board and all that stuff. And you know what I'm talking about. It it's it's not the easiest thing. It's not the easiest thing. And then and then and then and then, you know, you deal with, I don't know. Was it was it you that I mentioned it to, or was somebody else on because we met through a a podcast dating app called PodMatch. It's like Tinder for podcasters.
You know? So it's like, you know, you got, you swipe left, you swipe right, you know, accept, you know, decline, all that wonderful stuff. There are so many hosts or or guests that that you connect with on PodMatch that really just have no consideration whatsoever for what you're what you're trying to do with your show and tend to either, not show up Yeah. You know, which is why, I I sent you a regular email today. But we lost you. Oh, there he is. He's back. Gotta turn your stuff back on, brother. Then
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I
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live shows, folks. Live shows. You know what I was.
[01:10:13] Unknown:
Live live show that I was trying to send the link out, and I I touched my screen, and I turned this studio off. So Oh, you're good. I'm trying to leave the right thing, and I did the wrong thing. No. You're great. You're good. You're good. That's the joys of a live show. And it's like I always tell everybody,
[01:10:28] Unknown:
almost every show I do, there's something that happens. And, you know, I just had it wouldn't be my show if it didn't have some kind of a little hiccup somewhere along the way. But, Yeah. Yeah. But so many so many guests, like, they they either don't show up or, or or or they I think the worst is they don't show up, you know. And that's why and emails that I send out, I always put this is a live show, you know. It's huge. Don't leave me hanging, you know, because you'll never get a shot again. Never do it again. Yeah.
[01:11:00] Unknown:
Well, that's the thing. Right? Like, so I do most of the time, I do a live show, and I have sort of built up the callus, you know, doing 2,000 plus of these things that, if they don't show, I'll figure something out. Mhmm. But, yeah, it breaks my heart when when people don't show, and you're right. There's a thing with PodMatch. And I'm I've probably been that guy more often than I I normally would. My life is very busy, and PodMatch is very locked in on times. You know? And for me, that's a little tough. Yeah. So I've had to learn how to adapt to to respect your show, everything else. And even then, when I booked it, it's a little confusing on on my end. This is not on you. This is just the the chaos that goes into these things. You're in a different time zone. Your show starts at, I think it's five.
And then I'm from my point of view and I'm on at six. And then I I so I see the times five, six, and seven Pacific, and I'm like, what time time am I gonna be on this show? You know? Right. And so I'd sent you a text and everything. Yeah. I got it. I I was talking to Peter Tipton. When I saw it, I was like, I couldn't answer. I've I've figured it out. But before I got late, I owe you the courtesy of saying, what the heck am I doing? Because at one point, I thought, oh my god. Did this start at five? Am I and then I realized slowly, I I kinda put it all together, and I watched the other Pete that you had on, wonderful guest. But all that stuff, it goes into what it takes to do this show and and do you pour your heart and soul into this? I was talking with earlier on my show today.
If you can get reliably 10 people to show up and watch your show, it's one of the biggest successes of all time. Yeah. We we tend to lose sight of of what, like, wow, you're really doing this. You know, like, you don't have a problem producing an episode. I don't have a problem. That that's not our problem. You know, we have problems that are down the road from that. So folks who are starting, can they even do five? Probably not because most everybody does it. I mean, the failure rate is so high. The learning curve is so steep that to do this, to reliably do it, to build an audience, even if it's small, I don't care because the people that watch any show, they're so passionate about you and what you create and the guests you bring on. Man, I'm all into it. I love it. I I love and I I hate when I make a mistake. You know? I mean, the other day I was switching cameras in my live show, and my fat hit one of the buttons and turn the camera off for half a second. And I'm like, damn it. My fat stomach. You know? It's had to reach them. But and I wanna say this one more thing too because because I'm the executive producer. I'm the producer. I'm the booker. I'm the marketer. I'm the I'm the I'm the I'm the but every now and then, I'll get help with someone. And so I went to Vegas, and I've interviewed some very, very famous boxing people. And my buddy Ron is a very qualified interviewer. I'm like, you just do all of it. I'm not gonna ask any questions. And it was so great to make the artistic choices on switching because I'm live switching cameras. You know? Now when I'm remote like that, it's too much stress to to do live. Yeah. But, I'm live to tape, and I wanna get it perfect so that I don't have to do any edits. You know? And so yeah, man. It's it's a lot. And then I was gonna say this, you suck at retiring.
[01:13:47] Unknown:
Yeah. I know. Because this is a job. And then you got your real job. And then you have the job you fight, you quit because that but now you're yeah. So it's Well, I'm hoping I'm hoping that that with this iteration of my show that that, it'll take off to the point where I won't have to do the other job anymore. I can just focus on doing this and make this into something, that, you know, it it's like I'm like I joke around, I said, I'm I'm building my media empire. You know? So Sure. Sure. Well, the odds are in your favor. Do.
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And excellence gets discovered in this world. Yeah. You know? I I don't make a lot of money, but I get a lot of opportunities thrown at me. Mhmm. And enough of those opportunities continue to come through that this makes sense for me. Not all of them are financial opportunities, but there's just opportunities to enrich lives and and to do well by myself. And so, yeah, I I think if if that's your goal, that's where you're at now, certainly accomplish I mean, you you're over the the biggest part of the learning. It still continues to be steep, but when you look back, you're like, damn, we went crazy back then, but now, like, you've got your thing down. Well, you know, you now you've been doing your podcast for a while.
[01:14:50] Unknown:
Yeah. So, I actually started doing this type of stuff before they called it podcasting. I started doing this back in 02/1516 when they they called it Internet radio. And, I I was still up in New York. It was it was me, my my buddy JP, and another guy named Joe. And, Joe actually had a professional, radio studio in his in his house, in his basement that he converted, and he had a number of different shows that would come through. And, they would, you know, they would do all their shows out of there. So, he gave us access to the studio one night a week, to do a live show with the condition, he wouldn't charge us with the condition that, you know, we let him on the show.
And, so he so we had a pretty good breakdown. I was the conservative voice. My friend JP was the, was the, left wing liberal lunatic. And then, the other Joe, he was he was like the, we used to call him the voice of God. He was like just the that moderate, you know, libertarian type. He just brought balance to the force, basically. It was it was going. And it was a lot of fun. We we had a blast, and we would argue and fight during the show. And, you know, at the end of the show, we would just grab a pizza and just go hang out. Yeah. So So I've been doing it since since then, and, when I when I moved to Texas about ten years ago, I stopped doing it, because because at the time when I moved here, the technology really wasn't there to to do the remote stuff as as as well as it is now.
And, you know, so I started doing another show under the same name, but it didn't really like, I just I wasn't having fun with it. It was just not the same thing. I was too used to doing with the other guys. And then I stopped for a little while, then I started again, and I did a bible study podcast. And I did the bible study podcast for two and a half years, almost three years. So so, yeah, I've been I've been doing this stuff for a while, you know, and, and it it's funny how some of the some of the aspects of the old show, you know, filter into the new show and, you know, it it's you take a a it's a it's an interesting mix. It's a lot of fun, though. I love doing it. I I've met so many people that you never would think you would meet. You know? Like, I never would have a chance to meet Peter Ticton.
You know?
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Right.
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Yeah. You know, I And now you guys are like buddies. Yeah. Well watched. You guys had a great vibe. Yeah. Yeah. You know, he's a great guy to talk to, and and we've been trying to get this worked out for a little bit. There was some technical problems earlier on with the last time, but it was a lot of fun, and there were I met some great amazing people. Like, I never thought in a million I would sit down with a Nobel Peace Prize nominee and have a conversation about about saving, you know, bringing education to, communist Russia sneaking down the streets at at midnight, you know, under the threat of being killed because you're trying to teach them something. You know?
Never would I when do you meet people like that except through this venue? I mean Yeah. Every show that I've done, I've learned something. I've taken I've gotten something from somebody. I know other people take some stuff from me too, and not just colds and flus and all that stuff. But
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so Yeah. And then you go back and listen to your old stuff, and you're like, look at all this brilliance that I've forgotten about. Yeah. There you go. There you go. And and it's just it's a never ending well of amazing. And, yeah, I listen to old shows all the time, and I'm like, why don't I do this more? Every single time I do it. Mhmm. But, it's hard to do that for whatever reason, and I'm always going forward. And so I have to leave a a bigger pile of stuff that I should do something with. But Yep. It's, it's the ride going forward is so great. I guess I just don't wanna look back and and deal with you know, do work on old stuff. Yeah. And I I hear no. You know what? Sometimes it's okay to kinda recycle stuff. I don't I don't wanna use the word recycle.
[01:18:36] Unknown:
It has a bad connotation to it, but Continue to harvest. Or revisit things. Yeah. Say that. When I first started this podcast, I I was originally, it was gonna be I started this back in November. So Mhmm. So not even a year yet. And, I I I started off I was just like, you know what? I'm on a break from the other podcast, the bible study one, because I was just I ran into what I call preacher's block. Like, I just couldn't come up with any any more studies, so I just needed a break, step away from it. And then, and then I got the itch to do something like this. I'll do an interview show. And I'll just I'm just gonna do it, like, whenever I feel like doing it. It's not gonna be a regular thing. It's just gonna be once, you know, if somebody crosses my path that I find interesting, I'll have them come on. I'll I'll record it and audio only, no video, just, you know, do that and get it out of my system.
But then it slowly became to where it is now where I'm basically doing six shows a week and, all of them live. And it's, like, it's crazy. It's it's it's just funny how these things just take over. And, I don't know about you, but this is like, I think about this stuff all day long. It's like, I'm at my regular job. I'm working on something electrical. I'm thinking about, alright. Well, so tonight, I got so and so. Son of a bitch.
[01:19:53] Unknown:
You know? Yeah. I, I do. I spend quite a bit of time in the in the podcast space watching for guests, you know, because they're all gettable. I mean, the point where we are, like, when you have an established show and and you know what you're doing, you know, I see stuff. Like, in my world, if I wanted to chase anybody from president Trump's cabinet, they're gettable. I I may not get them, but all I have to do is put my ass together and I'll I'll be competitive. And it's not because I've been around for ten years. It's because they're accessible. And if they're accessible and you do it right and you catch a break or two or you just you're just good or you you know somebody, all of a sudden, you're talking to the secretary of commerce or whoever it's gonna be. Right. These folks wanna talk. Right? And that's what we built in this world. And and if you don't wanna talk to those folks, pick another area where it's like the the top of that area. Is it gonna be finance? You could talk to anybody in finance and and get to know all of the top 200 people either through direct interviews on your show or indirect because, oh, yeah. Everybody knows Larry. And And the next thing you know, you're talking to Larry. And I don't know about your show, but my show, I don't even have to ask anybody, really. My show will book itself now. Mhmm. And so I'm very specific about who I pick, and I pretty much never get told no. Like, it just doesn't happen. And it's not because I'm great. It's just because I'm experienced. Right. And I know how to ask, and I know when to ask. And, yeah, it's an amazing ability to to and this isn't what we were gonna talk originally, but I just love talking about anybody who can withstand the growth of a podcast ought to do it. Mhmm. If you want to do it to make money, go get a Dutch Brothers franchise and sell coffee. Yeah. Because that will be easier to make money. But if you wanna change how you live, who you know, what you see, the opportunities around you to gather wisdom. Whatever it's gonna be, yeah, make a show, man. Good. Not everybody's gonna get a Joe Rogan contract.
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No. No. Nobody will. Nobody will. It's it's Yeah. That's you know, so if you that's your goal in this, it's not gonna it's not gonna happen. You know? And if it does happen, God bless you. You know? Let me come over here. Let me rub your head or something like that. Get some of that juju off you. Yeah. But, Yeah. You know, it it's it's but it's a lot of fun to do. I I enjoy it. I I really cannot complain about it. When I miss a show, if I don't do one, like like, last week, strangely enough, I had COVID last week, but it was a cold, you know, and I was able to do all the shows.
So I went through them. Yeah. This week, I did Monday's show, and then I had a I did a a a show I do a show every Tuesday with my one of my sponsors, Ezra Healing. And we had the CEO of the company come on, and and we talk about, health matters. And, so I was doing great through that. And then at by the end at the end of the show, all of us I just felt like every I I just started aching pain and all that stuff and started sweats, there's chills, and ended up having a 105 something fever and, just caught a dangerous. Twenty four hour bug and, had to cancel Wednesday night show, which I hate to I hate canceling shows. And then, and then and then I was off on Thursday night, and then here we are tonight.
So Yeah. You know, but, like, I just I love to do it. It's a lot of fun. You know? I look forward to it. And then on, on You and I could you and I could talk about podcasting in an hour and have it be, like, ten minutes for us. Oh, for sure. Saying
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I can think of a 100 things to say back Oh, for sure. Because we've been on for twenty five minutes already.
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Yeah. Like, we're just getting started. You know? Like, on on alternate Saturdays, I have a I have a resident crypto psychic who comes on the show. And Okay. And she it it's it's it's great though because she she's really she's spot on, you know, and and she she does her tarot cards, and she, you know, we we talk, you know, what the cards talk about with with crypto, and you know what? She's been right on everything that she's been she's been talking about. Yeah. You know? And, it it's so it's great, and it's funny because because those shows get my highest views, you know, after the fact. So and and I think it has to do with the with the the tags, you know, you put in crypto. Everybody's interest interested in crypto. So Sure. They see crypto, they're gonna they're gonna check it out. But, we had a good time with it, and, you know, it's a lot of fun. And we we do it, and then, you know, I try to keep my Saturdays for, like, a special type of show. So, like, I got I got my resident crypto psychic. Almost like how Alex Jones has has his, gold person come on.
You know? So,
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I don't know. I never watched Alex. No? Oh, it's great. I believe you that he's deals in gold. Yeah. Yeah. I I'm sure. I'm sure. Oh, no. It's great. It's a lot of fun.
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But, so, you know, he has his his his resident gold expert come on and talk about how the market's moving, and so I have my resident crypto, expert come on and talk about how crypto's moving. It's been great, you know. It's a lot of fun. But, you know, I I wouldn't I wouldn't change it for the world. And, you know, the the the and you talk about the learning curve. You talk about a lot of podcasts don't make it past 10 episodes. That's that's the reality of it. You know, people start with with with these great intentions, and they realize they have just how much work is involved with it, and they back away from it. But, you know, if you have a message, you have something you wanna get out there, you get it out there, do it.
[01:25:08] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. And if you're doing something scripted, good luck. Man, that is so hard. It is so hard to sit on something. It is it's writing a book. That's what you're doing. Yeah. And then you're publishing it for everybody to see, and then nobody shows up because that's the reality. Yeah. Yep. You're like, I poured my heart into this. I worked for a thousand hours. Yep. No one showed up. You know? And and you don't it's just it's hard to repeat that. You might get through that first lesson, but it's crushing. It's crushing. It is. It's not just about your ego. You're like, I really worked hard on this. Why didn't this work? And you have all these questions. And the thing is is this is a very, very, very competitive game. For sure. We compete with national sports that all have all have podcasts. Mhmm. You know, Jason Bateman has a podcast. Mhmm. And so you can't expect very many people to show up, certainly not right from the beginning. Your friends are gonna care about it. Your family's not gonna care about it. They love you. They support you, but they're not supporting you with time and money. They support you because they love you. Right. And that's it. And and and if you can get over those things, you got half a shot. But That's right. It's it's hard. Yeah. That's right. But you just kinda stick with it though. Just if if once you get started,
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once you get over that hump, you know, you get into the routine of doing it, it's a lot easier, you know. And and don't cheat, you know. Don't don't don't don't write a show script strictly off of AI. Yeah. You can use AI as a as a as a guide maybe, you know. But don't don't don't write your show off of AI.
[01:26:35] Unknown:
Put I, for the most part, don't listen to anything without actual human video. I know that there's, you know, bet because but, you know, I I want someone who's a known expert and and, you know, a professor or someone who's got decades of experience. Otherwise, if it's just like the 10 weird facts about Dukes of Hazard. Oh, I love that title. I wanna watch that. Oh, there's nobody talking to me? Yeah. No. Thanks. I don't wanna hear a script that you didn't write. You know, there's nothing new in this because AI, for all of the things that's fun about it, it's not great at original content, and it's not great at a lot of things. And so as much as we I love some of the things today I can do, but when I look at all of it, I'm like, yeah, that no. Thanks. That's not gonna be something for me to consume as much as I can avoid it. I like to have real humans interact. Yeah. And if I don't feel something from something, even if it's a human, then I'm gonna turn it off. Yeah. I I I agree with you. I don't I don't waste time watching those those
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those videos, like, you know, your your your sign is this, and, you know, you're I don't really waste time watching that stuff because first of all, it's an AI voice. It's not even a human voice. And it's a it's a script that's being read. It it's it's not entertaining. It's it's just a bunch bunch of nonsense.
[01:27:45] Unknown:
But, Yeah. Real prose did that. Real prose. Mhmm. You know, like, actual, like, if Tom Hanks is reading something or it's in Tom Hanks' voice and, David Mamet wrote it, I'm gonna be entertained because that's what they do for a living. Exactly. Exactly. So even if it's 10% less of them because it's done through AI, I'm still in for that. But but and and no offense to anybody who does this. If you're in your, you know, in your garage and you're working on your show and you're not putting the work in to become great, then you are earning you are earning my attention. Mhmm. You you've got to you've got to got greatness only can be found if you practice and you suck for you gotta go through sucking. Yep. And if you don't suck and you have AI tell you something that oh my gosh. You just that's not the way there are people that do it that way. Good for them.
But you're not gonna get my attention if I have even a whiff of it. Yeah. And and that's just how I am. Maybe I'm an old man, but that's what I am. Nah. You're not old. I I but I because I agree with you, and I'm probably older than you anyway. So,
[01:28:43] Unknown:
so, Pete, so let's let's let's actually get to the actual questions. Are we gonna get to work? Yeah. Let's get to work. Yeah. So you've you've had a really unique career path. Military espionage, espionage, podcasting, you know, working with charities. What first shaped your worldview and and set you out on this on this journey that you're on with this?
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Which, by the way, you have a great show, by the way. I grew up in the '8 seventies and eighties. Right? And it was a different time to be a kid. We were allowed to be out of the house. We didn't you had to invent your own fun. You had to ride your bike. You had to throw a ball at somebody. You had to get punched in the face. And all these kind of things just turn you into someone who, at least in my world, can go and exist in someone else's home. And and, I don't know. Like, for me, the safest place was to be is out of the house. And that just kinda gave me an independent streak that I still don't know where the edges of it are. You know? I I I struggle with, authority. And this is from a guy who's in the army. You know? So I'm like, I'm chaffing at it all the time. I also, I play hard because I learned that when because, you know, like all kids, I was pick on able. You know? All kinds of kids are like that. And so I had to stand up for myself and I had to take like, I'm not gonna take this anymore. And I remember, you know, one of my big moments in my life, we're just playing baseball. And and the kids would let each other play. Right? But, you would get dogged by people. And so this guy was dogging me, and I'm like, you've gotta shut up. You've gotta shut up.
And there's bigger kids or smaller kids, but this guy wouldn't shut up. So I slid into second base and I dropped him. Nice. I'm like, this is what you do. You know? And I didn't wanna I hated the fighting thing. I was all sick to my stomach when I was gonna but I'm like, I was resolved. And, he never made fun of me again. And on that baseball field, I could play baseball and nobody would razz me because they knew there was a consequence and that I I might hit him. Look. Maybe I got lucky and knocked me out. Did I even hurt him? Probably not. But still, nobody nobody's gonna go after the guy who actually punches back. Doing violence between kids. No. But sometimes kids gotta be the boss of of their area. And and these things, I think, set me on a path of, I can do more than I realize. And things that are are scary are are sometimes worth doing. Sometimes you shouldn't jump off the roof as long as you break your ankle, but, sometimes you gotta jump off the roof just to see if you can figure out where the bounds of things are. And that sounds insane, but that's the world that we grew up in. That's exactly what I can.
Yeah. And so when when it comes to danger and doing things physically, pretty hard. Am I the world's greatest athlete? No. But I was I was a good athlete. And when I got to the army, I was more of an athlete than all the nerds that I was around because it's intel. And so I'm like, oh, these guys can't even compete with me physically. I can do more push ups. I can run faster. I can throw the ball. You know? I can lead in these regards. Mhmm. And I have a degree like everybody else, and I'm studying and I go, oh, man. I can really thrive here. I can really out compete my peers. And, that's a great way to start, but it is tough to navigate. Because when you start being this arrogant guy who's always trying to destroy your peers, that doesn't read well to everybody else. That's right. Now you're you're And and so you've got and I I imagine it's the same like any, like, any kind of force, like a a fire department, a police force, or anything like that. If you're out there and you're always alpha ing and you don't know how to, you know, it it's easy to be arrogant. And and I wasn't trying to be arrogant, but I was really confident. And those things, they blend over. And I radiated arrogance and not aloofness, but because I was still likable.
But, it didn't serve me well in terms of standing. So I stood out because I accomplished things, but it was like, yeah, but your attitude. I'm like, what do you mean my attitude? Oops. There's my attitude.
[01:32:34] Unknown:
I know what you mean, man. I I I I know exactly what you mean. Now you served in the military, which again, I don't know if if you heard me before, but thank you for your service. And I'm I'm usually hesitant to say that to to to a lot of a lot of folks because I had one experience not too long ago where, they were and I told the story in another show too. I had this one experience not too long ago where I I saw a veteran, a Korean War veteran sitting in a in a little shop over here, and I went over and I said, hey, sir. You know, thank you for your service. And he just stopped. He looked at me. He was like, well, thank you for reminding me of of this, this, and this, and this. I appreciate that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He's being a dick. Yeah. I I I was like so I usually ask first before I mention it, but, yeah. You you don't seem like you're gonna, like, pop off if I said it. So
[01:33:21] Unknown:
No. And and you know what? I'll I'll I'll give everybody a little bit of a clue. So it's great to say that. Right? But it's a little bit like, hey. How you doing? How's your back? You know, kind of thing. Like, you have to if you wanna do it well, you you have to mean it. And that means that you have to do it like you mean it. And so you have to say, like like you did. You know? You're like, did I say this already? I appreciate that. And then it's on me to figure out how I'm gonna respond and how do I respond well. You know? And I've tried all kinds of ways. But, like, if someone just says it because they hear veteran and then they they just automatically out of their mouth comes thinking, Like, alright. Well Yeah. Okay. Now that we're over this this fake talk, let's let's get to the real things. And and to just do your best to like, I used to say, like, I can't eat that. Like, I there's no money in that for me. You know? I'm trying to survive here. And so someone who's hurting, who's not not even, like, drowning, you know, they're below drowning, that person's tough to say thank you to because they're like, yeah. Well, I'm fucked.
You know? And and that's the bad thing is is, like, you're trying to be nice to somebody and tell them that they appreciate it, and it's hard for us to hear that. So all I would say is just continue to make that your policy and just grab them by the if you can't, this is just what Pete thinks, something like version of it. But grab them by the hand, look them straight in the eye back. No. I want you to hear me. I couldn't do what I do. Thank you. It's there's all I can do for you is just to say thank you. I can't imagine. And then just leave it at that. You know, like, really, like, pour your heart into it for five seconds, and then that would go a long way. Are you do you have to do that? No. You can just be like, right for your service, and that's gonna be good enough. But if you really wanna do it well, you know, do it well.
[01:34:51] Unknown:
Yeah. I that that that makes total sense, and I agree with you. I I I wouldn't stop saying it, you know, if I saw someone, I I I wouldn't. But it did make you pause for a second and maybe kinda rethink it a little bit. Well, you know, maybe I am bringing back some bad memories. Maybe they really don't wanna relive those things by by by bringing it up to them. But then again, at the same time, you're sitting there wearing a a veteran's hat. So I mean, come on. Yeah. Yeah. You would never know I was a veteran watching me day to day walking around. And and here's the other thing is is if that guy's got demons, they're gonna show up at night anyhow. Yeah. Anybody who's done this kind of work, and you know this,
[01:35:23] Unknown:
that stuff comes up at night. You you alright. Here we go. We're gonna do this dance once again. Exactly. Demons happen when you go to sleep. So what's, what's one cultural lesson that you picked up,
[01:35:34] Unknown:
in the field that still guides you how you see the world today?
[01:35:37] Unknown:
You'll get this because you've moved from New York to Texas. Don't try to out Texas a Texan. Just learn to become a Texan. Don't try to out New York a New Yorker. Yeah. You might know a lot about that place. Let them be better at that than you. Right. We tend to think, like, if I can ape, like, I'm from New York. Oh, I'm I know, you know, whatever. I'm like, this is Jersey. This is Hoboken. The place is Sanatra or whatever. Right? Don't do that. Don't don't act like don't put on airs. Just let them be great at that and ask them, like, who's who's the most if you're in Hoboken and you're like, who's the most important person from this area? Maybe it's Chas Palmetieri. I don't know. Right? But ask let them tell you. And and if they don't wanna talk about Sinatra because he's been dead for thirty years, you know, then who do they talk about? Oh, we talk about this kid who plays baseball, you know, or whatever it is. Right? They have something. So let them be great at where they're from.
If I if I came to your hometown of Texas and you said, hey. Let me show you this place. I'm desperate to have you tell me that. I I want you to show me the best things about where you're from. You take me to your best you know, look. I mean, obviously, barbecue. Right? But but, what do you call those, hot dog wrap, bread things you guys have down there? Kolaches. Yes. Yeah. Your where's your kolache place? Right? Like, I know enough to say that, and you're like, oh, I got two. And then you're gonna take me to those places, and that's how I'm gonna work your culture to my advantage. Right. Yeah. Exactly. Now mind you, I live on the border. So I live I live in Eagle Pass. So I'm I'm I am right on the border with Mexico. So there's more Mexican
[01:37:06] Unknown:
flavor here than than Texas barbecue flavor. And, unfortunately, there there's really no good pizza around here either. It sucks. It's terrible. Yeah. There's one place that that they do a pretty decent job, and, they're they're they're good folks, and they they take good criticism. So, the first time I had pizza there, I was like, listen. Look. Take it from me. This is not how you're gonna do this. And they listened, and they they made some changes. And it it, the the but it that's the only place that I found here that's good. There there's a chain here.
[01:37:40] Unknown:
Oh, it's horrible. It's like the worst. It's like, That's like me with Mexican food. You know, I get a certain level north and I get a certain level east, and it's not a very big window. It's not just in California, but, yeah, all of them like that. Yeah. My cousin's in Montana. Let's go get Mexican. I'm like,
[01:37:56] Unknown:
you know, I'll go with you, but let's not call it Mexican. Yeah. Because it's not. It it's not at all. But this this one place here is called, Peter Piper's. I don't know if you guys have that where you are. I've had Peter Piper pizza before. It's the worst pizza I've ever had in my life. It's like it's like a grade below Chuck E. Cheese.
[01:38:15] Unknown:
Oh my gosh. Yeah. You're right. You're right. That's exactly where I put it. Right around in that zone. Yeah. Let me ask you this, because this is a Texas thing, and so and so some folks may not realize this. You can reach a point in West Texas where you are so far west, you are no longer in West Texas. That sounds insane, but it's true. And so if you say to someone who's, like, in El Paso at the border, they'll think they're in West Tech tell you where it stops. And you're like, wait. Fort Fort Jefferson is where it's yeah. Anything past that, that's not Texas. That's not West Texas. You know, I'm like, what the hell is it? But all they know is that's where it stops. Right? So have you heard this at all about I have not heard when you get out out of your way? I've not heard that, but I I can understand it. I can relate to it because,
[01:39:02] Unknown:
I I love I love the city that I live in. Eagle Pass is great has been great to me since I've been here. So, you know, anybody listening or watching in Eagle Pass, I love you. Yeah. I have I have I have a bunch of good friends here. I'm I'm, I'm personal friends with the mayor right now, and, the former city managers and I are are good friends. And, you know, so these guys are great. I mean, I have not had a bad experience with the, the city government in any way since I've been here. Ten years. Never had an incident. I I extremely polite, great people. But having said that, this Eagle Pass is more Mexico than it is Texas.
Yeah. I don't speak That's the same thing go ahead. I don't speak a lick of Spanish. I understand more than what I let on, but that's also because I come from a Sicilian background. So, and my Italian is very similar to, to to Spanish in some ways. There's a lot of differences, but, you know, it's it's some similarity, so I was able to pick it up a little faster. But, yeah. Yeah. It's it's kinda tough, and so the only thing I say is when when any store you go into here that they immediately start off with Spanish, and I'm like, You know?
And then they Yeah. They look at you funny. Well, you just did. You know?
[01:40:22] Unknown:
That's how, so when I think about the South, the South stops somewhere in Mid Florida in terms of just the Florida part. Right? Mhmm. And two measures for if you're in the South. If you order iced tea, if they bring you sweet tea automatically without asking, you are for sure in the South. Mhmm. If they say, do you want sweet or regular? Then you're probably somewhere near the South. And if they just bring you iced tea with nothing in it, then you're nowhere near the South. And and there's that. But when you go to Florida, you reach a spot. It's probably south of of of Palm Beach area. You know? But then it becomes a different place. It's more Caribbean. It's more Spanish. And, like, parts of Miami, you're like, this is not the South at all. Right? It it's completely different place. And they will talk to you in Spanish primarily.
The billboards are in Spanish, and so you know, like, this is a different place. And so, yeah, it's a weird thing, but a lot of Florida is not the South. It is something else. And, also, it's just a melting pot of everybody there. It's like Vegas. Everybody's from somewhere else, and and and you'll meet someone that just moved there that day every
[01:41:26] Unknown:
day. Yeah. Florida's great, though. I love I love the I've been to Florida just twice in my life, and it it I I never cease to be impressed. You know? Just just the the the differences, just turning turning a street corner. You got especially especially if you're down in in near the in where the Cuban area is mostly. Yeah. You know? I mean, yeah, it's just that's just amazing. That's great. Now I when I worked in New York City, I worked in I had three districts in in Upper Manhattan, so I I spanned I went from river to river. It was the area that I was responsible for. That was my sector. So I went from the East River to the Hudson River. And so I went from from Spanish Harlem to, to to West Harlem.
And the differences in the in the communities were just amazing. In Spanish Harlem, you had and and it was funny to see it this way, but you had a little Cuban section, you had a little Puerto Rican section, you had a little Mexican section, you had section, you had this, and it was just amazing to be there. Just just to and and just the food is amazing. Oh, that's another thing you gotta do when you come down here. You gotta you gotta cross over, and you gotta hit the food trucks over in Mexico. You wanna talk about some of the best food? The food trucks in Mexico have the best food ever. And what I love about them is the fact that you'll sit there, you'll watch them prepare the food, and if you really show that you're interested in what they're doing, they they will they will act they will put on the show for you because they want you to enjoy that. You know, they're not just gonna slop it all together, you know, like most food trucks do, you know, like this sort of I mean, they will they they take such pride in what they do at the in these food trucks. I mean, it's it's amazing, and the food is incredible. And you got some of that too up in New York, until until I went to this one one place, I was up in, in Queens. I was working a detail, and, we were in Flushing Meadows Corona Park.
And, the the guy that I was working with that day, you know, he was like, hey. Do you wanna try something? I was like, yeah. Sure. What? Takes me over to this thing, and they have these skewers with these big chunks of meat on it. He goes, wanna try that? I'm like I'm looking at him, like, I don't know. What is that? And I forgot what they called it in in in in in Spanish, but, basically what it was, it was rat on a stick. Yeah. Yeah. And I was like, yeah. No. Why would you why would you offer that to somebody? It's terrible, but people are buying it, dude. They were just, like, chomping on that thing. It was the nastiest thing ever. Off the track. Off the track.
On your show, I wanna talk about your podcast. Yeah. Alright. Because, this is this is interesting to me, and it's something that I wanna learn from you on this one. Now you've had you've interviewed hundreds of guests, really good guests. I I've I've checked out your show. You have a really good show. I enjoy it. And, my I guess I guess my question is, I'm at the point now where I have to start getting a little picky as to who comes on the show and who doesn't. How do you decide who you bring on the platform?
[01:44:33] Unknown:
I, who's interesting to me? I I don't consider the audience at all. Okay. Because if I like it, my audience is gonna like things that I love or they're not. And and not every episode is supposed to be for everybody. That includes me. And so I may have someone on. Like, let's say and and I'm glad to have you on. But let's just say I have you on and it doesn't work out. You're you're more conservative than I am for sure. I'm also like, your buddy who's in the middle, that that's sort of like me. Right? Mhmm. Let's say you get super crazy wacky QAnon to the right. Right? And I'm like, yeah. You know what? That's not the vibe I wanna put out. And so I I won't I'll like you, but I won't have your back, you know, because that isn't what I wanna do. Or I'll find something else for us to talk about. Like, we'll talk about sports or something else. Right. Yeah. But, yeah, that's that's about as picky as I am, but there are things I I don't do. And so if you're an emerging author and you've written one book, it's your first book, chances are I won't have you on because I can't help you. I I I can't get you over the top, especially if your book is and this is no knock, but if your book is self published and not edited, I I I'm not gonna expose my audience. One time I think about my audience. I'm not gonna expose my audience to that. Like, you have to be better than that. I'm glad to give someone a shot, so I'll make an exception to my exception. Mhmm. But but that's a norm. If you're a coach and you're 20 years old, I'm not gonna have you on my show. I I I don't I don't like coaches. So, like, on PodMatch, I'm definitely what is it? Swipe left. Whatever it is. I I don't I don't do coaches because for the part, I don't have faith in their approach. And, look, they're they're, I hate to say this. This is so unfair, but they're a little shystery to me because I'm like, well, why are you and and if you say why are you they have an answer for that. And so I I just don't I don't wanna hear from coaches. I wanna hear from people who are wise over coaches. Not that coaches can't be wise, but that branding for me, that's I draw a pretty firm line there. Now I've had coaches on. You know? I've also had, Jim Mora junior on my show. He's a coach. Really? He's okay because he's a real coach. Right. Yeah. I'm saying really? There's that That was pretty neat.
Yeah. And and so I'm not that picky, but you've gotta be bringing something. Mhmm. Because because that's that's the rules. Right? And so that that's how it's at. But but I love to give people a shot. But as I just said, I don't want emerging authors. Well, shot, if a veteran reaches out, I'm probably gonna say yes. Even if it breaks all of my rules, I'm gonna give them a shot because if nothing else, they get a rep and and they they have a chance to do something. You know? Yeah. Because some of them aren't ready. You know? And then I just have done what I can for them. And and look, if you these shows, almost every single show is good. And so if there's a couple of stinkers, what do I care?
It's my that's my approach is, is it interesting to me? Do I wanna have them back? You're like, I wanna have you on my show. I wanna I wanna have a great conversation with you. I wanna talk about policing in New York and all these other things that go on. I wanna do that. Right? So that's interesting. And so I'll I'll have a lot of people from PodMatch on my show, but I don't book for my show on PodMatch. My show is on there, but I may because I I don't use it to book guests. Anybody who's on there, I can just book them on my own, and I don't I don't need PodMatch for that.
[01:47:45] Unknown:
Well, that makes sense. You know, and actually, I I've been I used PodMatch when I started doing interviews more regularly because I needed to kinda cut my teeth on it. And I figured this this is a good way to do it, you know. And now I'm I'm, you know, I'm using another, I'm using another site to to get some really good that's how this is where I got, Peter Ticton from is, radioguestlist.com. And, super super site. I mean, I dude. And I tell you, when I first put my profile up, poor Angela. I mean, because I because I put her email down as the contact, and she got swamped with with all these all these bookings. And, my calendar filled up. I I got booked all the way through until the September, pretty quickly. And, you know, so I I guess my reason for asking that question is because I I gotta I gotta start weaning myself away from Mhmm. You know, just picking anybody and everybody.
And, and and, I just it's it's the matter of when. When is the right time? And I feel like the time is now.
[01:48:54] Unknown:
If you think about this, you've got a lot of yes. Then as you build up a catalog, you'll need less and less fresh because the authors will write a book a year or a book every other year. Right. So all of a sudden people that I'll have on my show. I might have them on twice in a year. You know, like, I've got these guys right for the the Tom Clancy universe that come on my show. I can't get enough of those guys. I love talking to them. I can't believe that I built a show where I get to talk to someone who's writing Tom Clancy books. That's that's ridiculous. You know? And so, let's say that there's for me now, I you know, look, I'm further down the road than you are, but but you've been I've been in your spot.
Do I need 50 original guests that I get in a year? Maybe. Is it a 100? Yeah. But it's not 200. You know? And so all of a sudden, I'm like, a 100? Well, shoot. I can I can find a 100? You know? And and that's kinda how I handle that is I bring other people on who who have something new to talk about. Mhmm. I've had a lot of amazing people on the show. I can go back at any ask any of them, and they'll have something new because they're all in the business of having something new.
[01:49:57] Unknown:
Yeah. And, you know, also for me, I as I I played around with a lot of different subjects. So I, you know, I I've interviewed, paranormal investigators, which I like. I I don't I I enjoy that. I I get a kick out of that stuff because I've had my own I've had my own experiences, so it was a lot of fun to share those stories. And, and and this one particular couple that they they're they're I don't know if they're I know they were moving at the time that I met them, and so I don't know if they're back doing their podcast or not, but they had a great little show called Creepy Coffey's Podcast. And, they were a husband and wife ghost hunting team, and they had some great stories. We had a lot of fun talking. I would love to talk to them again, you know, and have them back on to see what they're up to. And we were we were actually talking about trying to get them to come down here to go to this cemetery not too far from me. We're gonna do an overnight and hang out there. But, you know, it's so I I've had them. I've I've had people that, I I had one one guy, super smart guy. I I felt like I was totally out of my league on this one, because I had no information. He's over here talking about zero point energy and, you know, level five civilizations and stuff like that, and I'm like, well, that's great. I mean, I don't I don't I'm a little bit lost on that stuff, but I learned something. You know, I got something out of it. You know, so I so I I've had a range of guests on the show, and it's just it's been it's been great. But I I think I I'm starting to feel like it's time. Like, I and I told my producer that, you know, we gotta start getting a little picky with with who's coming on. Yeah. Well, I would And I don't mean to I don't mean to sound like a snob.
[01:51:31] Unknown:
You know? No. No. No. You you no. I get exactly what you're saying. You know, like, you don't wanna just take anybody that comes to the door. And and so I would spend time reaching out to things that are really incredible to you that you don't think you have access to. I love doing this to my friends. They'll say, oh my god. Pete. I mean, keep my my friends don't listen to my show. I read the most amazing book. They're talking to me as Pete. They're not talking to me as Pete Day Turner, podcast producer. They're like and it was it was about this thing and there's a story. I'm like, who wrote the book? Like, oh, it's Jim Stevens. Oh my god. I love that book. Like, I'm gonna book him on the show. You're gonna sit next to me, and we're gonna talk to that dude. Oh, awesome. And they're like, wait. What? What? No. Really? And I'm like, yeah.
I'll get that guy. And so then here's what I do. I go online, and I look him up. Bam. And I book it, and I blow my friend's brain. You know, they're just like, what? I can't believe you know? And so I have to do stuff like that. Or, if there's a a business or a cool place that I wanna go to, I'll reach out. Maybe it's a convention, and I'll reach out and I'll say, you know, I'd love to come down and and, do some shows based off you know, support you guys. And they'll yeah. Of course. And, yeah, it's funny. Like, people are like, oh, you gotta have a press credential. I make the press credential.
You make the press credential. You know, like, we make them ourselves. You you just ride me into the their job is to say yes. And so you're like, I authorize Pete Turner to come to the SHOT Show or whatever it's gonna be. Right. And then and then they're like, yeah. Of course. Because they designed it. They want media to come, so you just act like your media because you are. And then all of a sudden, you're like, I'm at SHOT Show, and there's so and so, and there's so and I'm saying SHOT Show is an example. Right? But there's celebrities at all these things. And then I'm like, I can ask any one of these guys. They'll tell me yes here. It may not be a real yes because we're working. But if I follow-up with them in a in a good way, that yes may turn into yes. May still be a no, but I've not met all these new people in this world that I'm fascinated by. And now, I can book 25 people over the course of a year from this world. You know, who's got a new book? Who's selling a whiskey? Who's doing this? Who's doing that? And so even if I'm being a little permissive, I'm being permissive in a world that I wanna explore. I gotcha. Yeah. I like that. That's good. That's really good.
[01:53:35] Unknown:
Let's dream big here for a second. If you could bring anyone on your podcast, living, past, who would be the guest that makes you feel like you've hit the big leagues?
[01:53:45] Unknown:
Well, if they're dead, I'd bring Hitler on my show, because who doesn't wanna talk to that guy? Mhmm. I'd just sit him down and be like, alright, man. Listen. You didn't do so good in history. I'm pretty mad at you still. They've written a lot of you're probably the number one heel of all time, you know, and and just, just to have that conversation.
[01:54:03] Unknown:
Well, I mean, because everybody everybody who in the everybody in the world who is is, hated is automatically Hitler. So
[01:54:12] Unknown:
Right. Right. Right. He is the heel. He's like imagine the world in history as being WWE. He he's he's the heel. He the heel's heel. Right? Mhmm. So whenever I'm told, this is the contrarian in me, that something is true, that these guys are evil, this corporation is evil, I just reach out to them. And I'm like, I'm told you're evil. I'd rather just get to know you guys where you're at. And and they may lie to me. I don't care about that. But what I do care about is I don't wanna be fed something. And so if something's true, it's gonna be true. Like, the the whole Israel Palestine conflict, a lot of people are getting fed. Both sides. Mhmm. But primarily, you know, the Hamas side because those guys turns out are terrorists. Right? And so I just go get people who are in the IDF who studied this stuff professionally, and I'm like, what do you think? And they laugh. They're like, it's all so ridiculous. No one takes those people seriously Mhmm. Because they're not living in a real world. Right? So, way back when, I was told how Monsanto was this horrible company. And and look, it's a corporation, and they have IP, and they sue people. Oh, okay. Great. So we talked to them, and we had a we had a pre meeting, which is pretty rare for us. But, you know, we know we can't ask them about active lawsuits, so we're not gonna do that. And so we said, we're not gonna ask you about stuff you can't answer. We just wanna get to know who you guys are and what you do. And, like, we've got a guy for that. And so we sat down with this guy named Ty Griffin, and he's like, listen, we're desperate to solve these these agricultural problems. Nobody else does this, at least not at our level. So here's what we do. We go to all the big ag schools and we hire all of the top graduates that we can gobble up because we have so much work.
Pete, ask me where that work comes from. Okay, Ty. Where does that work come from? Farmers. They have problems they can't solve. Mhmm. And so if we don't do this, who's gonna all of a sudden you're like, wait a second. And so yeah. Predatory practices because they have to protect their stuff and their corporation and and they just sue people and they get her up to okay. Great. But also, they save different kinds of, products that would have gone extinct or or have, been attacked by a blight. They save those things. They help people who don't have ideal soil. They help. They help. They help. And so look. I'm not saying the scale is balanced in any way because I don't know that. But I do know there's a lot of good on their side of the scale that feeds a lot of people. And they and they make always great points. Like, the world is getting, you know, not any bigger, but the people are more, and they want more food. And so we have to help get bigger yields. That's one of the problems that we solve. Mhmm. How can I be mad at that? Oh, you can't. It's a noble cause. Right. Right. But I was told that they were awful. Yeah. I was gonna I was gonna say that. Yeah.
[01:56:43] Unknown:
Yeah. You're you're you're beaten over the head over bad at communication.
[01:56:47] Unknown:
You know? They admit that. Like, you know, like, we can't talk well because of of what happens when we do. And so we do our best, but we always struggle with our messages because lawyers like, you can't say that we'll get sued. You can't say that and they're probably right because who are you gonna sue? You're gonna sue Monsanto because they're a bad guy. Right. And that's all you hear is is just it it's Monsanto this and Monsanto that. Yeah.
[01:57:08] Unknown:
Look. There's every every company is good and bad. Everybody had every every company has an upside, downside, and not every company is gonna be completely ethical in everything that they do, you know, unfortunately. But I think as a whole, the the company in and of itself is it's it's not an evil corporation. You know? I I don't see it that way. I disagree with a lot of people who say that. You know? Not all corporations are evil.
[01:57:35] Unknown:
Yeah. And you notice that nobody's mad at Bayer and they bought them. Yeah. So Bayer. Some amount of that is is BS. Right? Yeah. Bayer who no. I'm not gonna get to what Bayer did in the past.
[01:57:46] Unknown:
We all we all know. We all know. So, we're running out of time here. So let me, let me let me hit you with some of this. I'd like to ask you a little bit about Save the Brave.
[01:57:56] Unknown:
So, why don't you tell me how you first got involved? But I will tell you about them. That's that's old from my bio, but I will tell you everything I know about them because they're great guys.
[01:58:04] Unknown:
So how did you first get involved?
[01:58:07] Unknown:
Well, my buddy Scott Husing ended up being the the the president, the director of it. And so he's a author and a marine, and, we just became really good friends. And he said, hey. I'm doing this. We help whatever. And so I helped a little bit here and there. And I was I was behind him a 100%. But, you know, whenever I could, I could help him. I I did. And then the big thing was is during COVID, one of his buddies, veteran, drank himself to death and and he lived in South Carolina. And so Scott was saying to me, we both live in California. At least he lives in Texas now, but we live both live in California. And he's like, I'm I'm gonna get on my motorcycle and just try to sort this out. I don't know what I'm gonna do. Like, I'm just so brokenhearted. We grew up together. We joined the service together, and now he's gone. And it's just it was so needless. And so I'm just gonna ride my motorcycle by myself across the desert. And I'm like, check that. You can ride your motorcycle all you want, but I'm gonna be on your six in my truck with the cooler Mhmm. Full of drinks. I'm gonna make sure that you're alright. You do as hard a thing as you want to do, I'm still gonna be there because I don't want you to be coming in kind of danger by yourself. Desert's a big place. And so he's like, did we just invent something? And I'm like, I think we did. And so that's what that's what the ride for the brave became. And so we first year, we rode he and I his him on his motorcycle, me and my truck, and then he thing there and back, as you can imagine.
And then the next year, it was, he flew back, and I I drove the truck there and back. But, yeah, we did it for four straight years. It was a lot of work. It was a lot a lot a lot of work. A lot of love, though, and it was amazing. And and so we sort of just reached like like, there's nothing we can do to top this. We can't continue it. So, we're both gonna go do new things. And so that there was never any animosity to save the brave. We all just wanted something different at that point. We had we had reached the conclusion of the ride for the brave, but it was amazing. And it turns out, like, when you show up and you say, hey. We're here. And here's what we're talking about, veteran suicide. By the way, two years later, my brother took his life, also a veteran. And we didn't know all these things were gonna happen. And while I'm driving, I'm getting so and so just took their life. And I became this beacon, and Scott too, for people that, like, didn't know what to do when the veteran in their life had had taken their own life. And and so it it was an amazing thing to be able to be a resource for people. And still to this day, you know, I've gotten good at people dying. So people call me all the time, so and so died. What what do you think I need to do or whatever?
And, yeah, I I still help people try to sort it out whenever I can. Do my best. You know, sometimes you just gotta go through that fire yourself, but that's what that's what my mission has become after after the ride for the brave engine was just being of service to other people who are trying to figure out what to do when when someone they love is hurting so bad that they either hurt themselves or take themselves out? And and how do you get in front of that? I'm a big I'm a big believer in don't ask someone who's hanging on to the end of their rope to to reach out and call you. No. No. No. Way before that, you reach out to them. Be active in their life. Yeah. That's important. Know that someone cares about it. Because when you think nobody cares about you and your phone never rings, you can believe it even if it's not true. Yeah. You're absolutely right. Yeah. I I know exactly what you're talking about. I know I know too many people that fell into that cycle, and, unfortunately, aren't aren't here with aren't here with us today. Yeah. And they aren't here with us today because of that.
[02:01:19] Unknown:
You know? So it was tough. Yeah. So who's someone you respect right now, and what are they doing that we should keep an eye on?
[02:01:26] Unknown:
Boy, I am amazed by, that guy Scott Bessent. I'm I'm not a big Trump guy. I want him to succeed and all that stuff. Every time I see Scott Bessent talking, I'm like, why don't we have someone like this all the time? Why is it always someone who is I can look on the spot. I'll watch him talk and I'm like, this person's lying to me, you know. Like, I can see it. And and, this guy just impresses the hell out of me. That might make a lot of people upset, but but I don't care. Like, I when this guy's talking and maybe he's all wrong. Maybe he's gonna screw it up, but this guy doesn't have a history of screwing things up. He has a history of doing great. And I'm like, oh my god. Who is this guy? And I I can't get enough of him. I I want him and everything he's saying to to be right. And, I just I'm super yeah. He's on our side. And this is what I've always wanted was how do we get why do we always scrape from the bottom of the barrel of people? Why aren't we getting the cream of the crop? And, he he seems to me now, you know, smash cut to some kinda atrocity. But for right now, he seems to be just a an amazing person to have in charge of the treasury. I I can't believe it. Yeah. I I agree with you. You know, I when he was first announced, I I was like,
[02:02:34] Unknown:
I I don't know much about this guy, you know, other than what you hear in the news and and whatnot. But, you know, I'm I'm impressed. I'm really impressed, and I I I feel confident with when I see him speaking about these about the financial matters of the of the country, I don't know. I feel kinda confident that it's going in the right direction, that that he he has an understanding of of what he's doing, that he's not just, like, you know you know, putting his finger up in the wind and seeing which way it blows, you know, to decide whether he's gonna, you know, which direction he's gonna go. He's leading. Yeah. He is. Absolutely.
[02:03:04] Unknown:
Reminds me of is, you remember when back in the eighties when Reagan would go off into a room with Gorbachev or whoever it was, and he'd come out and and you just knew you had a you had a bulldog. And I I don't I'm not like Reagan is God kinda guy, but but you had confidence. Like, this guy's gonna go do a great job for us. And I was 15 or 14 or, you know, whatever. I was young, but I was like, wow. That's a good guy to have around. And so just I have that similar feeling where if Scott Besson is going into a meeting to negotiate for improving the the finances of our country,
[02:03:33] Unknown:
for for right now until he proves otherwise, and I didn't start there. I he's put me here. I believe him, and I I want him to do great. That's the same thing with with, with Lutnick as as well as as at the at the same Same. Same. Yeah. I mean, with with these two with these two, I I feel confident that that this administration is gonna start pulling us out of this doldrum that we've been in for the last four years. I mean, it I it's, I'm really impressed with the with the with the cabinet that that that the president put together,
[02:04:02] Unknown:
this time around. Yeah. I think I think he I can't speak to most of the offices, but for sure, let let me tell his story. And I I basically start to cry because he lost everything. Mhmm. And by everything, he lost friends
[02:04:15] Unknown:
and everything on 09/11. I think but he wasn't he, like, the only one who survived?
[02:04:20] Unknown:
I believe he is the only one that survived from his firm. Yeah. And then he went back and built it bigger and better and all in their honor. And that right there, that part there,
[02:04:28] Unknown:
that chokes me up. That's a testimony to character.
[02:04:31] Unknown:
Yeah. I want that. I'm gonna see, like, I'm in the book somewhere now. This is a genuine I want that guy on my side. And you know what? I believe that he is. I I see so many politicians who are like, you're not on my side. You you hate me. You know, whatever me is, like, you're not in any way interested in me. And, I see Howard Butnick, and he is the he is the one that makes me, like, right. I'm generally my my eyes have welled up because I know that that guy is true. Mhmm. And Agreed. And if he's putting me on, great. Then he's got me sold. But when I I just these are guys I respect right now, and I see with them doing something. And I hope it works, you know, because it's not just them in charge of things. You know, all kinds of things can torpedo stuff. You know, whole pandemic can start. You never know. But, I'll I'll take all the wins that those guys can get. Even if I'm I'm a little bit cross with Donald Trump,
[02:05:17] Unknown:
I'm not cross with those guys. I wanna see him win. Yeah. Absolutely. Absolutely. You look, you know, I I am a Trump supporter. I I I I'm I'm absolutely thrilled that he's back in the White House. Do I agree with everything? No. I don't agree with everything. But that's that's important, you know. You you it's not you can't you can't always walk lockstep with the with with the administration that's that's in in office, whether it's whether it's left, right, middle, whatever it is. You know, use your mind. Think.
[02:05:46] Unknown:
Think. Yeah. Remember what it is And I'm not filed by, like, the celebrity part of it, any of it. You know? I don't care about that. Look. It's just that's not important. And and and I don't lockstep with Donald Trump. But if Donald Trump is gonna get peace in all these places, then I'll take all the peace deals he can get to. Is it seven wars he stopped? Yeah. I mean, peace is better than war because peace means you have words. And it may be a rough peace. It may be a dangerous peace, but you have words to exchange still. When you run out of words like Hamas and Israel, then people are gonna die and it's gonna be horrible, and it's very hard to stop those kind of things. And so anytime he can get a peace deal, I'm gonna be on board. I don't care if it's a crappy deal. No one's supposed to like a peace deal. It's gonna be hard on everybody. So just get them done so we can get to the business of healing and getting folks together. You're never gonna get everything you want in a peace deal.
Not not no side is ever gonna get what they want entirely, though. If it would have been if we could have paid Putin a trillion dollars on day one to stop, we should have done it. $2,000,000,000,000. Whatever it is. Right? Mhmm. Figure out how to pay the bill later on, but but get him to stop before it ever happens. And now instead and and listen. I'm gonna tell you something you would for sure know. When you kill, I don't know, 20% of the men in Ukraine Mhmm. Or Russia, you kill all these men, women are gonna get abused. Brutal. It's gonna be awful. They're gonna get murdered. They're gonna get raped. They're gonna get hooker and all this kind of thing. Mhmm. And and, that's the cost of war, and I don't want that. I've seen too much of that stuff in my life. You have too. I don't need any more of that. I don't need anything that that creates that. And so, yeah, I'll take all the peace deals he can get. Absolutely. I think what was the last total was, was 1,700,000
[02:07:21] Unknown:
Ukrainians? It's terrible. It's it's ridiculous, and and this is something that should never have gotten to this point. But I don't know if you can hear him in the background, but my, my little alarm clock is barking at the door, letting me know that they're they're hungry. So so, so, Pete, so where can the audience go to find out more about your work and what you're doing and follow you wherever?
[02:07:43] Unknown:
You go on x. Super simple. P a Turner. I've got a channel here on Rumble, but but I don't really tend to it very much. If you really wanna get a hold of me, you go on to YouTube or just Pete a Turner, on x. You'll find me. I'm not hard to I'm glad to talk to you. And if you wanna get a hold of me and those aren't your things, Pete@breakitdown excuse me. [email protected] is a good place to go. And thank you for having me on, man. I Oh, no. This was great, brother. I for doing all this stuff with me. It's it's it's great. Break it down, show. Awesome. If you guys can listen to it, great. If not, that's cool. I'm not everybody's cup of tea, but maybe I'm yours. Yeah. Never know. You know? But and it is a great show, by the way. Like I said, I I've checked it out prior to you prior to to prior to tonight
[02:08:20] Unknown:
and, really impressed with it, and I enjoyed it. I had a bunch of laughs, and I agreed with you on a lot of stuff. I disagree with you on a few things. Nothing earth shattering. No no big deals, but, you know, it's it's like whatever. Yeah. Everybody's entitled to opinions. But, but you definitely need to check him out. Great show. You really enjoy it, folks. And, what we're gonna do here is, we're gonna say goodbye to Pete. We're gonna, go through our closing really quickly. And, let's see. Before we do that, while we have Pete up here, because I have Pete Pete will probably like this. So, our new partner is American Hemp Pub.
Check him out at americanhemppub.com. You can use promo code roos at checkout for free shipping on orders over $40 and, get a free, free dupe tube. And, just gotta be over 21, so make sure you check them out at american hemp pub dot com, americanhemppub.com, promo code ruse for free shipping. Alright. Nice. There we go. Alright, Pete. Looking forward. I'll reach back to you, and I'll have you on my show. Everybody else have a great weekend. You got it, brother. Anytime. I got your number, so I'll text you after the show. Alright. Have a great one. Thanks, bud.
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[00:01:15] Unknown:
Well, hey there, folks. This is Joe Rooz. It is nineteen zero three hours on Friday, 08/29/2025. And bringing you the best quality talk radio we could muster without all the bluster. Welcome to the Joe Roos Show. Alright, folks. Hope you guys are ready for the weekend. We have a packed show for you today. This is gonna be a humdinger of a show. In the first hour, we have Peter Ticktin. Second hour, we have Peter Turner. So we have, dueling Peters today. Just hope we don't peter out. Right? Alright. I know. Corny joke. Corny joke. I gotta stop at those.
People tell me I tell too many dad jokes. That's alright.
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Well,
[00:02:17] Unknown:
I wanna apologize to everybody for, not having the show Wednesday night. We had to cancel the show because I somehow, someway came down with a, I guess, a twenty four hour bug of flu or something. Knocked me out, man. I I I had to leave my regular job early on, on Wednesday afternoon. Got back here to the house, and I basically slept from the time I got home about 03:00 up until I don't even know. I I I just got up to take the dogs out, the kiddies, make sure they ate. That's pretty much all I did. And then got up late Thursday morning, and then here we are today. Feeling much better.
Happy to be with you guys. And, again, you know, to the guests that we had lined up for Wednesday night, we did reschedule at least, half of it. So we'll get the rest of that going on, and we'll let you know when that's gonna take place. But in the meantime in the meantime, like I said, we have, Peter Ticton in the first hour. Second hour, we have Pete Turner, and, we're looking forward to having some great conversations. I've been looking forward to talking to, Peter Ticton now for for a while. We were supposed to I don't know if you remember, but we were supposed to, have a show a couple of weeks ago, but there were some some issues that, came up. We weren't able to get connected.
And, so we had a couple of guys fill in, that knew Peter well, and we had a great conversation, a lot of fun. And then, and then we were able to reschedule for this. So this is fantastic. So we're looking forward to, getting into that conversation very, very soon, but we do have some housekeeping that we normally do. So let's do that and get that out of the way. Alright. So, folks, first of all, if you would head over to our website, joroos.com. It's right there up on your screen. Joerooz.com. Open up that web form that you see on the contact section. I want you to send us over a message. Let us know whatever's on your heart, whatever's on your mind, any questions, comments, cares, or concerns that you might have. Boy, my ears look like the taxi driving down the street with both doors open. Right? Yeah.
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So, well, folks, really excited about this. Peter Tipton, attorney, author, and veteran. He's widely recognized for his legal expertise, his outspoken stance on matters of justice, and his strong defense of American values. Beyond the courtroom, Ticton has been an advocate on issues of law, leadership, and the state of the nation. His unique perspective combines years of practical legal experience with a sharp, unfiltered analysis of today's most pressing political and global challenges. Peter served in as a trusted adviser and a voice of accountability for accountability and a thought leader who doesn't shy away from hard questions.
His passion for guiding people to see through the noise of politics and media to the heart of what truly impacts everyday Americans. Peter was a featured speaker at the very recent America First Ground Zero Conference in Las Vegas, earlier this month, and joining it joining in with names like Steve Bannon, general Mike Flynn, big fan, and, Rudy Giuliani. His latest book, What Makes Trump Tick, offers an intimate portrait of the man behind the headlines, and tonight, we're gonna get even deeper. Peter Tipton, welcome to the Joe Russo. It is great to finally have you here with us, sir.
It's really a great pleasure to be here. Well, thank you. I appreciate that. So, I have a couple of playful little questions that I like to ask every guest no matter, no matter what their, their background is. So what's something that most people don't know about you but should?
[00:09:15] Unknown:
Well, then I'm only 54 years old. Okay. That's good. And I've been 54 for twenty five years. Oh, awesome. Awesome. Well, okay. So you're so so, I I am older than you then. Okay. Very good. Yes. You are. And and I but anyone needs to know anything about what it's like being 54, I'm the guy to ask because I've been 54 for so long. For a long time. Okay. I gotcha. That's great.
[00:09:38] Unknown:
What about your, what about your go to beverage or activity you like to do to unwind at the end of the day?
[00:09:44] Unknown:
Well, that's really interesting that you you asked about beverage because, I'm drinking my my diet cherry Pepsi.
[00:09:54] Unknown:
Really? I
[00:09:56] Unknown:
it used to be Coke. Alright. Coca Cola. Okay? Until Those president of Coca Cola decided that any bag that they don't even need as a customer anymore, I figured. Okay? I remember that. If that's the way you feel
[00:10:10] Unknown:
Well somebody appreciates it. There you go. Well, I don't drink I don't drink soda. I drink sparkling water, so that's that's the best thing for me. And, that's what I mix my methylene blue with. I'm mixing it right now with some, lime sparkling water, which is absolutely delicious. Stuff's amazing. I gotta give that a try. You should. You should absolutely should. It's, it's really good product. It's, it it affects everybody a little bit differently. Some people feel like they get this, this burst of energy. Some people feel liking it to, feeling like electrical charges going through their fingers and such like, like Emperor Palpatine in Star Wars.
But, some people don't feel anything at all. Some people, you know, mild mild, feelings from it. Me, I get it puts me into a very contemplative mood, helps you focus a little bit better, And so I usually take you take in the morning before I go to work, and then I'll do it here during the course of the show. And it takes about twenty minutes or so before you really start feeling the effects of it. But it's really good stuff. It's it's quality stuff. So I would I I do recommend it. But if you're taking anything like SSRIs, I have to say this is, you know, legal stuff, and you're a lawyer, you understand. If you're taking things like SSRIs or anything like that, you need to check with your doctor first because methylene blue is known to interact negatively with SSRIs. So please check with your doctor before you try this product.
Alright. Satisfactory?
[00:11:36] Unknown:
Only on vitamins. Okay.
[00:11:38] Unknown:
There you go. There you go. So so, Peter, before we dive into the current events, I wanna start with your journey. What first drew you into into law, and what keeps you motivated in the field of law after all the years you've served and practiced?
[00:11:54] Unknown:
You know, it's it's funny. You're asking things that people never asked me about. Okay. But to to tell I'll just tell you the way it is. Okay? Yeah. I'm I'm one of those autistic kids that was completely lost. And, and I was lucky we moved from The Bronx to Mount Vernon when I was nine. And I started fifth grade. They tested me in Mount Vernon, but they didn't care about anything in the schools of New York. PS 33, it didn't matter. I could vegetate.
[00:12:28] Unknown:
I know what you mean. I'm from New York myself. That I didn't have the what's that? I'm a product of New York public school education myself.
[00:12:36] Unknown:
Alright. Okay. Well, anyway, the the I didn't have the reading ability or the math to go into grade two. You know, Out of the principal's office. And I got went in there, and my parents are there, and the guidance counselor is there, my teachers, all kinds of people there. And I'm given this information, and, they let me know I'm gonna have to repeat grade four. Okay. And so, they promised that they were gonna give me remedial math and so on, and they did. They they they did what they promised in those days.
[00:13:06] Unknown:
That's what people did. Right. They kept their word.
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Yeah. Yeah. It was a long time ago. And, then, they brought me at the speed. And so, I I learned how to adapt, and to become like a normal person in many ways. I'm what they call a super intelligent, autistic. Okay. So for what that means. So I was, you know, I did alright in in in school, but I ultimately, my parents wanted me to go to private school so I can get into my father's alma mater, Columbia. Okay. Okay. And I I did very well. And, I I ended up going to New York Military Academy. And that really got me in shape. Okay? That you know, you got a left turn, right turn, you know, stand up, tensions, sit down, do what you know, you've got to follow orders, and you it really helped organize my life. And that's when I met Donald Trump when I was 15 years old. The two of us were 15 in the military academy.
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Okay.
[00:14:22] Unknown:
And, and in that year, he started off with the soccer team. I think he moved over to football later, but and that's where we met. A good guy. You know? There's nothing you know? Most of the most of the guys there were just decent people. The you know? And and they weren't the crazy kinds of problems that you might see in a movie that's made to, you know, gas things up a little bit to basically put in conflicts. Third year of New York Military Academy. His fifth year, we were together. He was my captain, and I was his platoon sergeant. He made me a platoon sergeant. He he had his power.
Fortunately, I kept that job the whole year. Okay? He never fired me. I never let him down.
[00:15:11] Unknown:
You never heard those famous words. Inspection.
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Yeah. We we we did it right. We passed every inspection. And and we were inspected six days a week, not Sundays, but every other day. Saturdays were white glove inspections Okay. Where they, you know, they they they come in with wearing white gloves, and they put that they feel over your doors. They feel over your lockers. Mhmm. God help you if there's any dust on their hand on that white glove, and there never was the whole year. Not just my room, but, the the core of Cadet. And we we really we're very close in that year. Look. We're living in a situation where there's no privacy.
Mhmm. I mean, even the the basement was what we call the rear. It's all tiled. There's two shower heads, you know, cup two or three urinals, three toilets that you could sit down. No no nothing that that distinguish anything. No hanky panky. Yeah. They gave us so much saltpeter in our food that nobody you know? We we didn't know from any of that stuff.
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I thought that was a myth.
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No. No. No. No. No. No. Well, they did. They you know, a lot of the food was preserved. That's all theater in it. That was the excuse. But, no, it's not a myth. Okay. You know, and so, I I at least had I don't either that or I was too busy or too scared in my first year for sure to to be thinking about anything like that. But then I was able to I did get into Columbia University, but I was able to skip my first year of college if I went up to where my brother was in in, London, Ontario, New York at at the University of Western Ontario. And then I was able to skip my last year and get into medical school when I was when I was 20.
So I only had two years of college, but my background was all in science. That was through high school and through through those two years of college and then a year of medical school where, you know, you'd dissect the human body and you, you learn a lot about a lot of things
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I'm sure. Including
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And then, but in my first year of medical school, you know, I was realizing, you know, my father loved being a doctor, but I didn't wanna be a doctor. I didn't, I mean, don't get me wrong. What doctors do is great. I love doctors. My my two son in laws that are doctors, a daughter-in-law that's a doctor. I love doctors. But did I wanna be doing that all the time, day after day? And so a friend of mine showed me some cases in law school that he was studying, and I looked at it and I said, oh my god. This is like reading Ann Landers. This is fun. So, so, I still remember those cases to this day because Really? It it's kind of something that really fits me. Okay. You know?
And What kind of cases were they if I could ask? Oh, sure. Medical malpractice cases. It was a doctor that was accused of, sexually harassing or, you know, touching a a patient Oh, wow. In in in a room and that the doctor had the presumption of, in his favor that he didn't do anything wrong. Right. And, and there was discussion about that. So good good good for testing. Yes. Testing me. But, the you don't want anything to go by. That's great. I try not to. Yeah. So the, in my I I switched over to law school. By my third year of law school, that year, I handled 10 cases in law school. Nine of them were traffic cases. And one of them, I actually sat on a I I I I started something called the anti parking committee committee.
And, you know, we challenged the parking committee because there was a mess. You know, students, let's just say, it's probably the same everywhere today as it was then. But there are the inflicting parking regimes on people and those people who hate that. And so I did fight it, and I got the university to challenge them, and they filed, 18 lawsuits. I'm defending 10 of them. Only one of them went to trial, and I won the case in trial because it was all by contract, and you can't have penalty clauses and contracts. And so I won that case. I won all of the nine traffic cases as well. I mean, you know, it was just what I it's it it I just fit in a courtroom. I know how to, look, who are the best cross examiners in the world? You know who they are? They're not people that went to law school. They're mothers of teenagers that stayed out all night or, you know, 02:00 came in from the morning, Right? Yeah. My mom was great at questioning.
Yeah. Yeah. Of course. You know, those are the great cross examiners of all time. And so I'm almost as good as those mothers in my you know, just have that ability because of my disability, because of my difference from the way I think as an autistic person from the way that other people think. I mean, I'm I'm still like a normal person. I'm happy. I'm sad. You know? Yeah. I'm not some kind of a freak, but at the same time, I'm kind of a little bit more
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without the, obsessive compulsive things. You remember the character on TV, Monk? Oh, yes. Yeah. Yeah. Right. Right. I used to watch them all the time. Yeah.
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So if somebody says something to me in in cross examination that doesn't quite fit, I I see it. I, you know, I I gotcha. And it's still so that made me kind of special in what I did. And then when I started practicing law, I did it as a barrister in Ontario. Okay. And in my first year, I defeated the uniform traffic ticket. So it was ticket's ticket, and that got a lot of attention. So I had this meteoric rise. You know, you have to understand every single court in the land, the judge was going case dismissed, case dismissed, k whether they showed up or not. Case dismissed, case dismissed. Stamped case the stamped case dismissed. Mhmm. And, they didn't even have a new ticket that they could use for about a year and a half after that case because they had to be approved by the legislature.
So that took a a long time for them to get that. So people weren't getting tickets, and nobody had to pay their tickets.
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And so I Which was like that over here for sometimes.
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Well, it it was it was fun. Let's say let's put it that way. Yeah. It cost the profits millions of dollars, but I'm sure they made it up in the future. Oh, I'm sure they did. Yeah. I don't think they're suffering. So although that's Ontario, it's a whole whole different world now than it was then. Believe me, it's come that Canada, I'm I'm sorry to say, is is lost. Okay? The freedom of speech does not exist in Canada anymore. Yeah. Yeah. You know, that you know, speaking to at the function there, there was one of the other the other speakers, but I got to know him. And I I think I'm gonna end up representing him.
But he's looking for asylum because as a trucker, he was he's charged with defenses of insurrection against the government. And so they're gonna put him away for a long time if they get him. And so he's down the states now seeking us. And I think it's the first case ever where somebody was asylum from Canada.
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Really? Think about that. That's that's interesting. I I I I never considered that. I I never considered somebody from Canada looking for asylum in The United States. I I never would have thought that.
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Yeah. That's amazing. Well, you know, we we we were this close to losing our country altogether, you know, if Donald Trump hadn't won the last election. Right? Two things. Number one, he was, you know, it was too big to rig. But number two, there was some things that happened to some computers in, I think, Belgrade Serbia. That's a whole other story.
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Yeah. We'll we'll have to save that one for a little later. Save that for another day. Yes, sir. We'll have to save that for when you come on the show and we do, just a two hour thing, just the two of us. That'll be awesome. Yeah. Interesting conversations. So so let me ask you this. So so, you know, people know you as someone who doesn't like to mince words. Has there ever been a case or, or I guess a moment of your career where speaking the truth came at a real cost to you?
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Well, right now, I have Judge Scrivens, Mary Scriven, in Tampa, federal court judge who's an activist judge. Mhmm. Even though our case had nothing to do with politics, the other side moved for rule 11 for my not doing a pre suit, claims analysis in a a patent case. And, and she just, decided that I need to pay the other firm $321,000 for not doing the presued claims analysis that I did do. But she when she saw that I was the one that filed the lawsuit for Donald Trump against Hillary Clinton, that's all she needed. Then I was her enemy. Right. And and this this judge is, you know, what can I say?
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Out out to get me in a sense. It's I think it's incredible these all these activist judges that that just insert themselves into into into the political side of of government when they should just be focusing on the judicial side of government. It just drives me crazy.
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Right. The the thing is that they they know that they can do this with impunity. Right. And what they don't know is that they can't.
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K. So so they think they can do it with impunity, but the reality of the matter is they really cannot. Right. You know, I I remember speaker Johnson, if I can interrupt for a second. I remember speaker Johnson early in the, early in this administration saying that, you know, Congress has the authority to, basically shut down district courts. And, so I'm wondering when that's ever gonna happen. Do you think that's ever gonna happen?
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I I you know, something I haven't broached that topic with the people that I talked to in in Washington, but, you know what? I wouldn't be surprised. I could tell you something's gonna happen, and there are some judges who are actually part of the conspiracy to commit the insurrection that occurred in 02/2020. Mhmm. Because 2020 wasn't just somebody stealing an election. No. I can
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do you mind if we go segue into that? Oh, of course. Yeah. No. Yep. Floor is yours, sir. I I am I am your student right now. I'm gonna get my notepad here. I'll here we go. Okay. Well, remember, you're older than I am. Well, yeah. Look. You know, you can learn you can learn from anybody. So
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Okay. Joe Biden didn't fix the election. Mhmm. Okay. Joe Biden couldn't fix a flat tire. That's true. Okay. That that man's useless. I mean, before he lost his demand, it became completely useless during the course of his presidency. You know, he could still pull it off a little bit at in the year of the election in 02/2020. Right. I agree. I mean, he was partially gone by then, but and had to be handled. But, but it he he's not the one that did this. And if you wanna know who did it, I'll tell you, but it'll be scary. Let's go. We don't we don't run away from things here on this show. Okay. Well, I'm sure you've discussed this with other guests, and you know about the World Economic Forum. Yes.
Okay. And you know that China has a good part to play in that. Yes. Very good part. At this point, the World Economic Forum was just taken over by Alan Fink, who's also the CEO of BlackRock, which has $11,600,000,000,000
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in it.
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So, you know, if you start thinking about what what what is that? What is that? What is what is a trillion? What's a billion? What's a million? Okay. So let me do this to help your guests for once and for all, okay, to understand this. A million dollars, boy, I would really happy to have a million dollars right now coming. Okay. You take a thousand dollar bill and I put another thousand dollar bill on top of another, top of another. You make a pile of a thousand of those thousand dollar bills. That's a million dollars, and it's eight and a half inches high.
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Okay. K?
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Nice little pile here. Here's a here's yeah. This is for you. Oh, thank you. Okay. Alright. I wish. So you have mute me both. It's a lot of money, a million dollars. Boy, that could change everything about a person's life. Sure. To get to a billion, keep adding to that pile. And that pile will be far taller than the Washington Monument, which is 550 feet because eight and a half thousand inches is over 700 feet. Wow. Okay. Okay. Got it. Alright. But then just keep adding to it. To get to a trillion dollars, that's a 132 miles.
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Wow.
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That's that's Eight and a half inches versus a 132 miles is a difference between a million and a trillion. That's about half the distance from where I live
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to San Antonio.
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Well
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So I have an idea.
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You got an idea. Yes. And when you're talking about one you know, so so when we look at this, okay, and we look at these monies, take a look at ActBlue. ActBlue is the money laundering organization that feeds the democratic causes. And it's already been known for some of its wrongdoing. The first thing we heard about was like some grandmother who donated $5 three times. Kind of like some of the things that you see with Donald Trump that he puts on, you know, donate, donate, donate, you know, we get we all get it. And, the records of ActBlue, though, show that she was donating something like 10 to 30 times a day and something like $10,000 a shot. This lady, you know, was lucky if she could afford $5.
Well, I think I remember this story too. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It was public news. And so what happened is they they figured it was the cartels that were basically laundering money. Then they found another scheme that they were doing. Alright? So not only were they doing this with the the old ladies names using other people's names to basically donate money from illegal activity, They think that they as I said, the cartels, that means drugs and it means human trafficking Right. Which is what the Democrats may be about. So what we're talking about, the new activity that we that was discovered with with someone would buy a house for $300,000, and then they would put a mortgage on that house and refinance for a larger amount, like $300,000,000.
Okay? Believe it or not. And so this was major, major, major, massive money laundering that was going on in ActBlue. Mark Finchem was a state senator in Arizona. He basically put it I don't know if you know Mark. Have you ever met him? I don't know. I haven't. Oh, you might want him on your show sometime because he's fascinating. Mark Finchem? Mark Finchem, f I n c h e n. But they his organization, they they they were investigating all of this, and they counted it up and counted up to over oh, before I tell you one thing, I the Toronto Dominion Bank was actually fined during Biden's administration. Somehow, the phone asked me under Biden, they will find a billion dollars.
So that was pretty big. Yeah. But but they got caught. All of the things I'm talking about. Okay? This isn't just private information that I found out about. But the new information I have is that $1,600,000,000,000 passed through there. That's far more than any cartels could possibly the cartels could have possibly come up with 200,000,000 maybe. Or I'm sorry. 200,000,000,000 maybe, but but not more than that. 1,600,000,000,000.0?
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Trillion.
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The understanding is that it it was more than likely that this comes from China. Wow. So here we have a country, you know, China who intentionally sent its virus to The United States Mhmm. Imposed a biological weapon on us. We don't know for sure. Nobody has evidence to show it was intentionally released. Mhmm. We don't know if it was intentionally released from Wuhan or not. We understand that it came originally from The United States. We know Fauci's fingerprints are all over it. Right. Another man who should be prosecuted.
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Lord willing.
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A lot of deaths. That's, that's one of the most despicable
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human beings on the planet if you ask me. Yeah. I've I've I've been recently looking into his background a little bit more, and just just the things that I've I've I've been reading and just learning about this man, it's just it's just disgusting. All the way back to to to HIV, AIDS, medications, and then this thing with remdesivir, which I I learned was was, an Ebola medication that in the test subjects, fifty four percent of the test subjects died.
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No. They they killed people. Yeah. They they needed to kill them to scare them to take the jab. Jeez. Okay. And there are different theories as to why that that jab was pushed. You know, it could have been just for profit. Mhmm. But it also could be because there's something much more nefarious about what that jab's all about. But meanwhile, it'll be because that's what the World Economic Forum is all about. They wanna reduce the world population to 500,000,000,000. They wanna take you know, they want 15 out of 16 of us to go bye bye. Yeah. Georgia Guidestones. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. There. And also from, Bill Gates' mouth. That's right. Yeah.
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Alright. Wasn't it Bill Gates who said that through vaccines, we can we can, decrease population or relieve population?
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I'm not sure, but there is a mechanism that the mac the vaccines could work. You know? So if you get the people you want to get rid of to take the vaccine and you don't take the vaccine, it they could have the seed of death in it. We know that we have about twice the death rate that we otherwise would have had. Mhmm. It doesn't show up in huge, huge numbers, but most of us know of somebody that shouldn't have died Yeah. That died, younger than they should have. We know of people that had the shot, and within hours, they did. Mhmm. Some you know?
And also we know that the that the that the vaccine or whatever it is that causes, you know, the the spike proteins to be manufactured and where tends to generate, to move towards the ovaries in women. Yeah. Not so much the sexual glands in men, but to all reason women. So, you know, like these people are all obsessed and believe in global warming, which may or may not even be true. You know, you don't have to not believe in global warming or believe in it. But if you look at the evidence, you know, there's some truth to it. Otherwise, these people, some of them very intelligent, would not wouldn't believe it. Right.
They believe it. It's become their religion. They believe that if they don't, reduce the population that the global warming will ultimately reduce it to zero and can only kill everybody, kill all the animals on the planet and so on and so forth. And they feel that 2030 is the is the end time. So, you know, they're gonna run out of time because we'll be past a point of no return. And they have feedback mechanisms that they can deal with and so on to basically come up with these principles. I mean, you have to understand your enemy. And so just denying global warming doesn't really help. You gotta understand global warming in order to understand who these people are and what they're doing and what they want. But you've got it you know, so I I didn't intend to get into all of that in this discussion because Okay. You know, some of this isn't proven, but I have seen, I I I have seen a video of a member of the World Economic Forum speaking to a group of new members. I mean, there's only a 100 members technically. But so whatever position they get, you know, some memberships of some some sort.
And what he was explaining was what we needed was a means of reducing the population without violence. And now we have it. Right. And they're all excited about it like that, you know, trying to gin up some enthusiasm. So perhaps, perhaps there's something there is something called the ADE, antibody dependent enhancement. I don't know that you've heard of that. I have. Yeah. Okay. So, you know, that's what happened to the ferrets in 2002 after COVID two, which was SARS.
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Mhmm.
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They did make a vaccine, and they did use unlike our recent vaccine, which is no vaccine at all, but unlike the recent one where they did not they were not required to use any animal studies, They did use animal studies in 02/2002, and, they used ferrets because it had to be kind of in the cat family. You know, dogs don't get it, but lions in the zoo do. Oh, gotcha. And and so they use ferrets as laboratory animals to that they experimented with that vaccination. And that, again, it's not really a vaccination, but whatever it is. And they found that the well, all the ferrets died.
You know, they did alright with the side effects, but when they were exposed to another coronavirus, they all died. Wow. So if that's the case and where those who got the jabs are exposed to a similar kind of other coronavirus, then the thought is that they could have ADE antibody dependent enhancement, which is what what happens. So instead of instead of the antibodies working in your favor and gobbling up the viruses, they become pals to the virus, and they let them through the cell walls, the difficult part for a virus. Right. Okay. And so once in the cell, it's a smorgasbord for them. You know? They eat up. They gobble up all of the all of the amino acids, and they reform them to be identical to their DNA and because bacteria viruses do have DNA.
In fact, all it is is proteins around the surrounding the DNA. It's not like a cell. And, but it does reform. And and and then voila, you have all of these coming out of the cell and the antibodies let them all into other cells. So you end up with what would be mathematically called a geometric progression. Mhmm. And with that, you get something called the cytokine storm, and that leads to organ failure and death. So, you know, so if any of your viewers have seen, have have had the jab, and, they they start seeing that something new is on the horizon where, it it's having a terrible effect. You know, people are dying, and then make sure you've got a really good supply of ivermectin or Yes.
Hydroxychloroquine hydroxychloroquine, be because, that may be necessary to save you. I remember when,
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when when COVID first came about, I didn't get the vaccine. I don't even I don't I don't even like calling it a vaccine. It's it's a gene therapy.
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Exactly.
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I got it on the first round. My my regular job is I work in a health care facility, nursing nursing facility, and part of my job is handling biohazardous materials. And so, of course, when this when this virus was running around our facility, you know, I I have to deal with this. And, no matter how much protection you wore, I call it the marshmallow suit, you know, you wore big white suit, the face shields, the goggles, the mask, the gloves, all that stuff, you still get sick. You know? So, so I got it the first round, and it it it knocked me out for a little bit. Like, I like, I felt I felt really, really bad. Like, I I was I knew I was sick.
I would like it more like to a a very bad flu, but, my doctor actually prescribed me the hydroxychloroquine, before the before the CDC said, no. You can't. You know? And then they they they took it off the, off the schedule. So they gave they gave me the hydroxychloroquine and, the antibiotic, the steroid, all the stuff that they recommended at the time. And, I'll I'll be I'll be very honest with you. After I by the time I was ready to take my second dose of the hydroxychloroquine, I was already feeling well enough that I was able to get up, and I was able to clean and straighten up my house, you know, and and and start getting my life back. And then, of course, all of a sudden, they took that off. No. No. No. We can't have too many people getting healthy again. We gotta keep them getting sick. This way we can keep pushing this this, this gene therapy and get more people infected with this stuff.
I think it was all planned. I think it was the whole the whole purpose of it was to, for for control, and I think that a lot of the lockdowns and, and and the mandates that were put in place was a test run to see just how far they can push people before they started pushing back, for what I think is a lead up towards and, you know, people are gonna think I'm a crazy conspiracy theorist on this one, but, you know, most of the conspiracy theories you hear these days are actually true, just to to push us into that that, WEF agenda twenty thirty, mindset, you know, where you'll have you'll own nothing and you'll be happy. Everything will be micromanaged for you by some oligarch somewhere else, where they'll control everything. And and, you'll have to live in these little fifteen minute cities in these super small apartments, and you'll have to do all these things that they tell you to do. You'll have your social credit score. You'll have, you know, you'll have a digital currency where if if you don't, if if you if you violate if if you go into wrong think, you know, they could shut your bank account off. You won't be able to buy, sell anything, take care of yourself until you tow the line. There'll be no purpose
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Mhmm. That that there's no reason for them to keep you. Right. They they all have to grow food, and they'll have to do what's necessary to keep you. And that's one of the reasons that people don't keep people after they're in concentration camps. Mhmm. They eliminate them. Right. So, you know, I mean, unless there's some reason or purpose to to keep you, we're going to be in a very society, you know, once we're dealing with AI, AGI, ASI. Mhmm.
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You you know what AGI is? I've heard of it. I'm not too really too familiar with it though.
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That's when AI gets to a level that it knows as much as the top specialist in every single specialty in the world. Okay. So the top, cardiologist, everything that that guy knows,
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the computers know that and more. Well, I I think we're very close to that to be already. I don't think we're too far off from that. It's coming in February. They it's estimated to be next year at 02/1926.
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There you go. And then they, the next step is ASI, artificial superintelligence, which is the old knowing pretty well everything there is to know and putting it together association with you can combine facts and and you can figure things out. I don't know how long it's gonna take to get to that, but they figure it could be as little as hours or maybe months before we get to that from the time that we reach AGI. So so it's a new we're coming into, and, people are already having fun. I hate to say get into this. It sounds so depressing and so awful. But, you know, the fact of the matter is is with this life, there's hope. Of course. Yes. And and, and we have a great deal to to live for. And this will be a great
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this will be a great topic of conversation for us when we can spend the full show together, and, you know, not have to break in an hour, because this is a great topic. This is very important. This is this is what's going on in the world today, and we need to be prepared for this. We need to understand what direction we're going. You know? Right.
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But right now we're in a war. Right now we're fighting the enemy Mhmm. That took over America for four years. I mean, if you just if you don't think that some foreign power took over America for years, let me just ask you one question.
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When did it a good idea to open up the southern border of The United States and let anybody walk in? Yeah. I think When did it become a good idea? Yeah. I think president Trump said it himself that, you know, Joe Biden Joe Biden wouldn't have done that on his own. Even Joe Biden, no matter how liberal or or far left he is, he would never have done that.
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No. No. But if we're looking at a foreign power that doesn't mind sending fentanyl and killing a 100,000 young men in America a year Mhmm. A million of them in a ten year period I agree. Okay, of military age getting rid of our our capacity to be able to defend ourselves every way they can.
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You know, just think about where they are and what they're doing. I I read it. There was an estimate. There's 52 to 55,000,000, illegals in this country, illegal aliens in this country right now.
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And we have no idea about a lot of them. Mhmm. Okay. We know that there there are ill infantry educated, infantry trained
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young men Yeah. From different countries, from Venezuela, from China that are here in America. I wish I would have thought about this when we were I was doing the prep for the show. I I would have tried to find some clips to to to to display, but, I do remember seeing, one, Middle Eastern man, outside, outside the border in Mexico, talking about that this country has no idea what's coming, but he did.
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Yeah. Because he was with him. He could see them. Yeah. You know, there was one show that I saw, one news show that I saw where they were driving down and showing the different people that were there that were waiting. And they said they're every 20 feet, and sure enough, they were there every 20 feet. There was another as though of somebody in a military outfit Mhmm. Said spread apart 20 feet because they weren't twenty five and fifteen here. They were exactly 20. They were, like, every one of them, just exactly 20 feet apart. And and, about every one out of three, we're standing at ease. Okay? Now when I say at ease, I'm talking about the military position of at ease. Mhmm. Okay?
Then, at ease. Yes, ma'am. So, where your hands are behind your back and they're they're standing there. You're you're loose and you're easy. You can move around, but your hands are behind your back in a way that most people don't do that unless they've been trained, unless they've had some military training.
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So, again, exactly where that all is, but we need to be a little bit more weary, as to what the heck's going on. I agree with you. Now we only have we only have about ten minutes left, so I wanted to kinda if we could just jump ahead a little bit here, I wanna talk to you about the, America First, Ground Zero Conference that you that you attended. Tell us a little bit about that experience. What was that like to be a part of that event?
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Well, it it you know what? It was wonderful because, you know, it's kinda like when you go to a Trump rally or that or or, you know, everybody around you pretty well is of a similar mentality that had that sees the same truth, that isn't full of deceiving themselves. And so it kind of it's really wonderful to be among people that are like minded in that way. I just had so much fun being with you know, my Michael Flynn is a friend of mine. Rudy Giuliani, I don't know that well, but this time, we got to know each other a bit better. Roger Stone, you know, was there.
But then the number of people that were there that that understood where we are and what kind of a situation we're in right now,
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it made made it into a really wonderful time. Did you have any conversations that, or were there any moments that really just, like, stood out to you as as especially impactful?
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Well, you know, I'm kind of on the cutting edge as is. You know, I I I do speak to to Michael Flynn, on a regular basis, and, it's funny because he and I come to the same conclusions. You know, he gets there through intelligence. Mhmm. You know, things that you know, where he learns what's going on. And I get there with much less intelligence, but more deductive reasoning. But we end up ending up in the same Same point. Understandings.
[00:50:32] Unknown:
Interesting. That's interesting. Yeah. Yeah.
[00:50:35] Unknown:
And, and and and he's of the same school that I am in terms of what I was talking about before. That there's one pivotal point and what that pivotal point is, which is that we have to have a fair February.
[00:50:51] Unknown:
Yeah. I think the Democrats can do whatever they can to try to steal this thing. I I I don't think they're gonna be able to. I mean, especially if they keep pushing the platforms they're pushing, they're gonna have to try to steal it.
[00:51:01] Unknown:
No. They have a cap. They have a capacity of stealing it if we use the machines and and the, the voter rolls. Yeah. They're they're all corrupted. We we've got hundreds hundreds. I'm gonna say hundreds of thousands, but, really millions and millions and millions of nonexisting people that are in the voting roles. Well, not only that, but also you have a lot of these a lot of these blue states are allowing,
[00:51:25] Unknown:
the illegal aliens to, to register to vote.
[00:51:29] Unknown:
Right. Well, that's not gonna happen if we have our if if the president does what I'm hoping
[00:51:36] Unknown:
that that he does, because everything hinges on this. Yeah. I I agree with you. And and from your mouth to God's ears, I hope, you know, that that he can pull it off this way. We have to preserve our elections. The there there is no there is no America without free and fair elections.
[00:51:52] Unknown:
No. We'll we'll we will go right back to we'll end up with a president, Harris or the like Mhmm. Of her. And, you know, they will see us, anybody that like Trump, as an enemy of the state. In fact, Trump himself will be considered an enemy of the state, and he'll he will have a terrible fate as well. I mean, this is not you know, but they tried to shoot him. We know of two occasions. There's also a third where this fella remember, he shot his parents and Yeah. The next person he was going after was the president and vice president.
[00:52:32] Unknown:
So My concern is my concern is the midterms right now. And I and I've been saying that since since, since the president was sworn in is that now we gotta start focusing on the midterms because, we have to keep the house. We have to keep the senate. And, because if we don't, what's only gonna end up happening is the next two years of president Trump's, second term, all we're gonna hear from the Democrats are impeachments, because they and and I say that because they've already tried it several times. Representative Al Green seems like every other week is filing articles of impeachment.
You know, so I I so I think it's it's critical
[00:53:14] Unknown:
You're exactly correct. You're exactly correct. What what they could do is they could actually take over a super majority of this of senate as well and actually have them removed.
[00:53:24] Unknown:
Right.
[00:53:25] Unknown:
And then once that happens, then they can reinstate some of the things that were going on in the criminal courts. Mhmm. And before you know, he he'll be behind bars. Yeah. This this is this is what they want to do. Okay? These are not pleasant people. These are people who have weaponized the government against people. And in the event that they should take over again Mhmm. The test time will look like the the good old days to everybody. Okay? Because everybody's gonna be at at risk, and people are gonna be picked up. If you're not thinking and acting exactly according to Hoyle, you're gonna be in danger and, you know, and that's only if all these other possible things that they're planning
[00:54:09] Unknown:
don't come about. Yeah. I agree with you. I absolutely agree. Alright. So, man, we're out of time already. I can't believe that. We didn't we didn't get to your book. We didn't really talk about the other stuff that we're gonna get to. So, let me let let me get let me get to this question. Let me ask you about your book. Let's let's take a couple minutes for that. So you you wrote What Makes Trump Tic. You lived through a lot of it, and, you've known Donald Trump personally. What inspired you to to finally put those stories and insights into a book?
[00:54:45] Unknown:
2020 was coming. Okay. And I need to do whatever I could do to help in that election. Oh. We we we needed to make sure we won it. It was devastating to lose it. But, you know, strangely enough, maybe we're all better off in a way. Maybe the world needed to see maybe our world needed to see how stupid, how destructive, the Democrats could be if they actually got to win an election. You know, they're saying things like we're gonna open the border, and nobody got you know? It it it it it it it wasn't registering. But the fact of the matter is we didn't lose that election.
I I promise you, we did not lose that election in terms of Not at all. The people that voted out no. By for Trump, by far, outvoted Biden. Biden didn't get 81, million votes. That that did never that never happened. No. And you're gonna start seeing the proof come out. The the the trial for Stephanie Lambert, where they're trying to Tina Peters her Yes. Put her beyond bars for having the tabulation machines. It's gonna start coming out in there. It's gonna come out in other places. Perhaps Donald Trump will make it well known. I I I I think that that that's kind of the works eventually.
And you're gonna see what really happened thousand twenty are that election was stolen
[00:56:08] Unknown:
by far. Oh, and I absolutely agree with you. I mean, it it just you just look at the at the logistics of the whole thing. It there was no way. I I was watching the feeds, and I saw the counts change. I I was like, wait. What? I I I just went to the restroom. I came back and and all of a sudden it's flipped the other way. How is that how is that possible?
[00:56:28] Unknown:
You know? One person could take off and get more and more votes, but there's no way that the person loses votes. No. Exactly. Exactly right. And I remember seeing that, and, it it was it was so heartbreaking
[00:56:40] Unknown:
to to see it happening and realize that, you know, in that particular moment, our country descended into a banana republic.
[00:56:50] Unknown:
Or worse. Or worse.
[00:56:53] Unknown:
I was being polite. Well, Peter, we're we're gonna have we're gonna have to, end this out here right now, but I definitely wanna have you back. Like I said, we gotta I'll I'll talk I'll talk to your people, and we'll get something set up where I can have just the the exclusive with you because I because there's so much that we agree with and so much that we could talk to we talk about. I would really love to get into your brain some more. So, why don't you tell us where we could, find your work, your book, where we can reach out to you, any contact information you wanna give out.
[00:57:26] Unknown:
Okay. Legal brains. That's all you need to know. Alright. Lawyers that my firm have brains, so we've got legalbrains.com.
[00:57:34] Unknown:
So we got you at legalbrains.com. We also have you on Facebook as, it's the the Ticton Law Group. On x, you're at legal brains and Instagram as well at legal brains. Peter Ticton, thank you so much for taking the time to be with us tonight. I really did appreciate this, and you have a great night, sir, and we look forward to talking to you very, very soon. Thank you. Legalbrains.com. Thank you. Alright. You have a great night. Thank you, sir.
[00:57:59] Unknown:
Bye bye.
[00:58:03] Unknown:
Alright. Folks, Peter Ticton. Check out his stuff. This this I was so looking forward. I was so excited to talk to Peter today. And, that's like I was a giddy school kid running around the the regular job telling everybody, hey. You gotta check out the show tonight, and I don't think anybody did. But, but, you know, it was a great, great experience, and I and I look forward to really spending some some more time with him. And, we'll we're gonna have to block out an entire show just so I can talk to him. This was great. Really and I had so many more questions for him. There were so many things I wanted to talk to, but, man, I just I I you know, with with a with a mind like that, you don't wanna stop him when he's on a roll, and I didn't wanna interrupt, and I was learning so much. I got some really good information here, so I'm excited about what the future conversation is gonna be. Alright. So what we're gonna do here is we're gonna take a short break. We'll do a chair break. I'm not gonna put a screen up. I'm just gonna step out for a second, refill my coffee, hit the little boy's room. And, when we come back, we'll have Pete Turner join us for the second hour. And, so in the meantime, don't forget folks, this is a live show weeknights at 7PM central time.
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Alright. Well, first hour is in the books. Welcome back to the Joe Russo. My name is Joe Russo. It's great to be with you here again on a beautiful Friday. I didn't get to do that before because we were kinda looking to get, Peter Tipton in. But it is our Friday show, and we are very happy to be with you, especially if you're being sick for two weeks. It's been crazy. But, we are here. And, folks, I wanna tell you a little bit about Pod Home. Podhome.fm is my audio side host platform. Pod home is the most easy, modern to use podcast hosting platform that's on the market today. You can use it to publish your episodes, enhance your audio, and automatically generate transcripts, chapters, titles, show notes, and more. And you can even podcast live.
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Love them. Great company. And they got some things in the works, and, that reminds me, September 13. I think it's September 13. I just forgot. In September 13, we are gonna have the, owner of podhome.fm on the show with us, on a special Saturday show, which we don't normally do. But, we're gonna have him on the show. We're gonna talk about all the great things that are coming out of beta with pod home dot f m. So make sure you check it out, podhome.fm. Alright. Pete Turner, the executive producer and host of the Break It Down Show podcast approaching, over we have over 1,500 episodes. Right? 2,000 now. 2,000 now. Okay. Yeah. Well, that's why we generalize it as over 1,500.
Alright? And your show stands out for its, its rotating cohosts. Pete's rich experiences extend beyond geopolitics. His expertise shines in tactical espionage, US travels, and engaging discussions on politics and life. With over seventy months of military service and a thousand combat patrols thank you for your service, brother. I appreciate it. Pete's journey evolved from counterintelligence roles in Afghanistan, Bosnia, Herzegovina, Egypt, Germany, and Iraq. Pete also dedicates his time to save the brave. Since 02/2020, Pete has participated in the ride for the brave, take taking him and a group of veterans across country, fundraising, gathering, and healing.
Pete is often found on the road working in the service of others. So let's welcome our guest, Pete Turner, to the show. Hey, Pete. How you doing?
[01:06:44] Unknown:
Thanks, man. I appreciate you having me on the show. And I you and I both know what it means to do these things. It's not easy. It's constant chaos. And so to to get a few minutes with you in front of your audience, it means a lot to me because it's it is a lot of work to do what we do. And and, I really seriously but I slow down and always say this because it means something to me, but I appreciate everything about this. So thank you. This is great. Great way to spend Friday. Hey, and I appreciate it. Yes. You got your coffee. I'm gonna have a little wine with you. Well, well, you know what? I'll be honest with you. Normally, I have some bourbon.
[01:07:16] Unknown:
Okay. But I I am doing the very best I can to not have bourbon. So so, so Mine's apple juice. Don't don't worry. We're not Oh, no. Wine's fine. I'm good with wine. Okay. Bourbon's the weak spot. See, I I like to spend my weekends with with some bourbon, cigar, sitting by the grill with a beautiful woman, just relax. You know? Yeah. That's the way to do it. It's pretty close to perfect, man. It's it's there. And plus I live in Texas, so can't get any more perfect than that. So, it's great. It's a wonderful thing. Yeah. So, so, I usually like to ask oh, actually, before we get to that, you know, you talk about people don't really know what goes into putting on a show.
You know? Yeah. Whether you're recording a show or you do a live show, people don't really understand how much time actually goes into it. I work a regular forty hour a week job. You know? I'm on call I'm on call twenty four seven because of my my title position, which is fine. It's not something I'm not used to doing. I've I've I'm retired New York City law enforcement, so, you know, I have I I know what it's like. But, I do a regular forty hour a week job, and then I do the they do the prep and the and the and the the setup for the show. I have a I have a producer who helps me out, Angela. She is great, and we always give her the shout out. She's anonymous Angela. She doesn't want us to give out her name, so we do it anyway. But so we just put anonymous in front.
So anonymous Angela helps me out tremendously. She does a lot of the backgrounds and research for me and helps me put the things together. She's fantastic. I have my team of executive producers only because they contribute money. So they they bought their titles. No. But they they're great. They they're really supportive. So I have I have a good team, and I appreciate them. I just wish that I had them here with me when I'm doing the show because it would be easier if somebody was watching the board and all that stuff. And you know what I'm talking about. It it's it's not the easiest thing. It's not the easiest thing. And then and then and then and then, you know, you deal with, I don't know. Was it was it you that I mentioned it to, or was somebody else on because we met through a a podcast dating app called PodMatch. It's like Tinder for podcasters.
You know? So it's like, you know, you got, you swipe left, you swipe right, you know, accept, you know, decline, all that wonderful stuff. There are so many hosts or or guests that that you connect with on PodMatch that really just have no consideration whatsoever for what you're what you're trying to do with your show and tend to either, not show up Yeah. You know, which is why, I I sent you a regular email today. But we lost you. Oh, there he is. He's back. Gotta turn your stuff back on, brother. Then
[01:10:07] Unknown:
I
[01:10:10] Unknown:
live shows, folks. Live shows. You know what I was.
[01:10:13] Unknown:
Live live show that I was trying to send the link out, and I I touched my screen, and I turned this studio off. So Oh, you're good. I'm trying to leave the right thing, and I did the wrong thing. No. You're great. You're good. You're good. That's the joys of a live show. And it's like I always tell everybody,
[01:10:28] Unknown:
almost every show I do, there's something that happens. And, you know, I just had it wouldn't be my show if it didn't have some kind of a little hiccup somewhere along the way. But, Yeah. Yeah. But so many so many guests, like, they they either don't show up or, or or or they I think the worst is they don't show up, you know. And that's why and emails that I send out, I always put this is a live show, you know. It's huge. Don't leave me hanging, you know, because you'll never get a shot again. Never do it again. Yeah.
[01:11:00] Unknown:
Well, that's the thing. Right? Like, so I do most of the time, I do a live show, and I have sort of built up the callus, you know, doing 2,000 plus of these things that, if they don't show, I'll figure something out. Mhmm. But, yeah, it breaks my heart when when people don't show, and you're right. There's a thing with PodMatch. And I'm I've probably been that guy more often than I I normally would. My life is very busy, and PodMatch is very locked in on times. You know? And for me, that's a little tough. Yeah. So I've had to learn how to adapt to to respect your show, everything else. And even then, when I booked it, it's a little confusing on on my end. This is not on you. This is just the the chaos that goes into these things. You're in a different time zone. Your show starts at, I think it's five.
And then I'm from my point of view and I'm on at six. And then I I so I see the times five, six, and seven Pacific, and I'm like, what time time am I gonna be on this show? You know? Right. And so I'd sent you a text and everything. Yeah. I got it. I I was talking to Peter Tipton. When I saw it, I was like, I couldn't answer. I've I've figured it out. But before I got late, I owe you the courtesy of saying, what the heck am I doing? Because at one point, I thought, oh my god. Did this start at five? Am I and then I realized slowly, I I kinda put it all together, and I watched the other Pete that you had on, wonderful guest. But all that stuff, it goes into what it takes to do this show and and do you pour your heart and soul into this? I was talking with earlier on my show today.
If you can get reliably 10 people to show up and watch your show, it's one of the biggest successes of all time. Yeah. We we tend to lose sight of of what, like, wow, you're really doing this. You know, like, you don't have a problem producing an episode. I don't have a problem. That that's not our problem. You know, we have problems that are down the road from that. So folks who are starting, can they even do five? Probably not because most everybody does it. I mean, the failure rate is so high. The learning curve is so steep that to do this, to reliably do it, to build an audience, even if it's small, I don't care because the people that watch any show, they're so passionate about you and what you create and the guests you bring on. Man, I'm all into it. I love it. I I love and I I hate when I make a mistake. You know? I mean, the other day I was switching cameras in my live show, and my fat hit one of the buttons and turn the camera off for half a second. And I'm like, damn it. My fat stomach. You know? It's had to reach them. But and I wanna say this one more thing too because because I'm the executive producer. I'm the producer. I'm the booker. I'm the marketer. I'm the I'm the I'm the I'm the but every now and then, I'll get help with someone. And so I went to Vegas, and I've interviewed some very, very famous boxing people. And my buddy Ron is a very qualified interviewer. I'm like, you just do all of it. I'm not gonna ask any questions. And it was so great to make the artistic choices on switching because I'm live switching cameras. You know? Now when I'm remote like that, it's too much stress to to do live. Yeah. But, I'm live to tape, and I wanna get it perfect so that I don't have to do any edits. You know? And so yeah, man. It's it's a lot. And then I was gonna say this, you suck at retiring.
[01:13:47] Unknown:
Yeah. I know. Because this is a job. And then you got your real job. And then you have the job you fight, you quit because that but now you're yeah. So it's Well, I'm hoping I'm hoping that that with this iteration of my show that that, it'll take off to the point where I won't have to do the other job anymore. I can just focus on doing this and make this into something, that, you know, it it's like I'm like I joke around, I said, I'm I'm building my media empire. You know? So Sure. Sure. Well, the odds are in your favor. Do.
[01:14:14] Unknown:
And excellence gets discovered in this world. Yeah. You know? I I don't make a lot of money, but I get a lot of opportunities thrown at me. Mhmm. And enough of those opportunities continue to come through that this makes sense for me. Not all of them are financial opportunities, but there's just opportunities to enrich lives and and to do well by myself. And so, yeah, I I think if if that's your goal, that's where you're at now, certainly accomplish I mean, you you're over the the biggest part of the learning. It still continues to be steep, but when you look back, you're like, damn, we went crazy back then, but now, like, you've got your thing down. Well, you know, you now you've been doing your podcast for a while.
[01:14:50] Unknown:
Yeah. So, I actually started doing this type of stuff before they called it podcasting. I started doing this back in 02/1516 when they they called it Internet radio. And, I I was still up in New York. It was it was me, my my buddy JP, and another guy named Joe. And, Joe actually had a professional, radio studio in his in his house, in his basement that he converted, and he had a number of different shows that would come through. And, they would, you know, they would do all their shows out of there. So, he gave us access to the studio one night a week, to do a live show with the condition, he wouldn't charge us with the condition that, you know, we let him on the show.
And, so he so we had a pretty good breakdown. I was the conservative voice. My friend JP was the, was the, left wing liberal lunatic. And then, the other Joe, he was he was like the, we used to call him the voice of God. He was like just the that moderate, you know, libertarian type. He just brought balance to the force, basically. It was it was going. And it was a lot of fun. We we had a blast, and we would argue and fight during the show. And, you know, at the end of the show, we would just grab a pizza and just go hang out. Yeah. So So I've been doing it since since then, and, when I when I moved to Texas about ten years ago, I stopped doing it, because because at the time when I moved here, the technology really wasn't there to to do the remote stuff as as as well as it is now.
And, you know, so I started doing another show under the same name, but it didn't really like, I just I wasn't having fun with it. It was just not the same thing. I was too used to doing with the other guys. And then I stopped for a little while, then I started again, and I did a bible study podcast. And I did the bible study podcast for two and a half years, almost three years. So so, yeah, I've been I've been doing this stuff for a while, you know, and, and it it's funny how some of the some of the aspects of the old show, you know, filter into the new show and, you know, it it's you take a a it's a it's an interesting mix. It's a lot of fun, though. I love doing it. I I've met so many people that you never would think you would meet. You know? Like, I never would have a chance to meet Peter Ticton.
You know?
[01:17:06] Unknown:
Right.
[01:17:07] Unknown:
Yeah. You know, I And now you guys are like buddies. Yeah. Well watched. You guys had a great vibe. Yeah. Yeah. You know, he's a great guy to talk to, and and we've been trying to get this worked out for a little bit. There was some technical problems earlier on with the last time, but it was a lot of fun, and there were I met some great amazing people. Like, I never thought in a million I would sit down with a Nobel Peace Prize nominee and have a conversation about about saving, you know, bringing education to, communist Russia sneaking down the streets at at midnight, you know, under the threat of being killed because you're trying to teach them something. You know?
Never would I when do you meet people like that except through this venue? I mean Yeah. Every show that I've done, I've learned something. I've taken I've gotten something from somebody. I know other people take some stuff from me too, and not just colds and flus and all that stuff. But
[01:17:56] Unknown:
so Yeah. And then you go back and listen to your old stuff, and you're like, look at all this brilliance that I've forgotten about. Yeah. There you go. There you go. And and it's just it's a never ending well of amazing. And, yeah, I listen to old shows all the time, and I'm like, why don't I do this more? Every single time I do it. Mhmm. But, it's hard to do that for whatever reason, and I'm always going forward. And so I have to leave a a bigger pile of stuff that I should do something with. But Yep. It's, it's the ride going forward is so great. I guess I just don't wanna look back and and deal with you know, do work on old stuff. Yeah. And I I hear no. You know what? Sometimes it's okay to kinda recycle stuff. I don't I don't wanna use the word recycle.
[01:18:36] Unknown:
It has a bad connotation to it, but Continue to harvest. Or revisit things. Yeah. Say that. When I first started this podcast, I I was originally, it was gonna be I started this back in November. So Mhmm. So not even a year yet. And, I I I started off I was just like, you know what? I'm on a break from the other podcast, the bible study one, because I was just I ran into what I call preacher's block. Like, I just couldn't come up with any any more studies, so I just needed a break, step away from it. And then, and then I got the itch to do something like this. I'll do an interview show. And I'll just I'm just gonna do it, like, whenever I feel like doing it. It's not gonna be a regular thing. It's just gonna be once, you know, if somebody crosses my path that I find interesting, I'll have them come on. I'll I'll record it and audio only, no video, just, you know, do that and get it out of my system.
But then it slowly became to where it is now where I'm basically doing six shows a week and, all of them live. And it's, like, it's crazy. It's it's it's just funny how these things just take over. And, I don't know about you, but this is like, I think about this stuff all day long. It's like, I'm at my regular job. I'm working on something electrical. I'm thinking about, alright. Well, so tonight, I got so and so. Son of a bitch.
[01:19:53] Unknown:
You know? Yeah. I, I do. I spend quite a bit of time in the in the podcast space watching for guests, you know, because they're all gettable. I mean, the point where we are, like, when you have an established show and and you know what you're doing, you know, I see stuff. Like, in my world, if I wanted to chase anybody from president Trump's cabinet, they're gettable. I I may not get them, but all I have to do is put my ass together and I'll I'll be competitive. And it's not because I've been around for ten years. It's because they're accessible. And if they're accessible and you do it right and you catch a break or two or you just you're just good or you you know somebody, all of a sudden, you're talking to the secretary of commerce or whoever it's gonna be. Right. These folks wanna talk. Right? And that's what we built in this world. And and if you don't wanna talk to those folks, pick another area where it's like the the top of that area. Is it gonna be finance? You could talk to anybody in finance and and get to know all of the top 200 people either through direct interviews on your show or indirect because, oh, yeah. Everybody knows Larry. And And the next thing you know, you're talking to Larry. And I don't know about your show, but my show, I don't even have to ask anybody, really. My show will book itself now. Mhmm. And so I'm very specific about who I pick, and I pretty much never get told no. Like, it just doesn't happen. And it's not because I'm great. It's just because I'm experienced. Right. And I know how to ask, and I know when to ask. And, yeah, it's an amazing ability to to and this isn't what we were gonna talk originally, but I just love talking about anybody who can withstand the growth of a podcast ought to do it. Mhmm. If you want to do it to make money, go get a Dutch Brothers franchise and sell coffee. Yeah. Because that will be easier to make money. But if you wanna change how you live, who you know, what you see, the opportunities around you to gather wisdom. Whatever it's gonna be, yeah, make a show, man. Good. Not everybody's gonna get a Joe Rogan contract.
[01:21:43] Unknown:
No. No. Nobody will. Nobody will. It's it's Yeah. That's you know, so if you that's your goal in this, it's not gonna it's not gonna happen. You know? And if it does happen, God bless you. You know? Let me come over here. Let me rub your head or something like that. Get some of that juju off you. Yeah. But, Yeah. You know, it it's it's but it's a lot of fun to do. I I enjoy it. I I really cannot complain about it. When I miss a show, if I don't do one, like like, last week, strangely enough, I had COVID last week, but it was a cold, you know, and I was able to do all the shows.
So I went through them. Yeah. This week, I did Monday's show, and then I had a I did a a a show I do a show every Tuesday with my one of my sponsors, Ezra Healing. And we had the CEO of the company come on, and and we talk about, health matters. And, so I was doing great through that. And then at by the end at the end of the show, all of us I just felt like every I I just started aching pain and all that stuff and started sweats, there's chills, and ended up having a 105 something fever and, just caught a dangerous. Twenty four hour bug and, had to cancel Wednesday night show, which I hate to I hate canceling shows. And then, and then and then I was off on Thursday night, and then here we are tonight.
So Yeah. You know, but, like, I just I love to do it. It's a lot of fun. You know? I look forward to it. And then on, on You and I could you and I could talk about podcasting in an hour and have it be, like, ten minutes for us. Oh, for sure. Saying
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I can think of a 100 things to say back Oh, for sure. Because we've been on for twenty five minutes already.
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Yeah. Like, we're just getting started. You know? Like, on on alternate Saturdays, I have a I have a resident crypto psychic who comes on the show. And Okay. And she it it's it's it's great though because she she's really she's spot on, you know, and and she she does her tarot cards, and she, you know, we we talk, you know, what the cards talk about with with crypto, and you know what? She's been right on everything that she's been she's been talking about. Yeah. You know? And, it it's so it's great, and it's funny because because those shows get my highest views, you know, after the fact. So and and I think it has to do with the with the the tags, you know, you put in crypto. Everybody's interest interested in crypto. So Sure. They see crypto, they're gonna they're gonna check it out. But, we had a good time with it, and, you know, it's a lot of fun. And we we do it, and then, you know, I try to keep my Saturdays for, like, a special type of show. So, like, I got I got my resident crypto psychic. Almost like how Alex Jones has has his, gold person come on.
You know? So,
[01:24:25] Unknown:
I don't know. I never watched Alex. No? Oh, it's great. I believe you that he's deals in gold. Yeah. Yeah. I I'm sure. I'm sure. Oh, no. It's great. It's a lot of fun.
[01:24:32] Unknown:
But, so, you know, he has his his his resident gold expert come on and talk about how the market's moving, and so I have my resident crypto, expert come on and talk about how crypto's moving. It's been great, you know. It's a lot of fun. But, you know, I I wouldn't I wouldn't change it for the world. And, you know, the the the and you talk about the learning curve. You talk about a lot of podcasts don't make it past 10 episodes. That's that's the reality of it. You know, people start with with with these great intentions, and they realize they have just how much work is involved with it, and they back away from it. But, you know, if you have a message, you have something you wanna get out there, you get it out there, do it.
[01:25:08] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. And if you're doing something scripted, good luck. Man, that is so hard. It is so hard to sit on something. It is it's writing a book. That's what you're doing. Yeah. And then you're publishing it for everybody to see, and then nobody shows up because that's the reality. Yeah. Yep. You're like, I poured my heart into this. I worked for a thousand hours. Yep. No one showed up. You know? And and you don't it's just it's hard to repeat that. You might get through that first lesson, but it's crushing. It's crushing. It is. It's not just about your ego. You're like, I really worked hard on this. Why didn't this work? And you have all these questions. And the thing is is this is a very, very, very competitive game. For sure. We compete with national sports that all have all have podcasts. Mhmm. You know, Jason Bateman has a podcast. Mhmm. And so you can't expect very many people to show up, certainly not right from the beginning. Your friends are gonna care about it. Your family's not gonna care about it. They love you. They support you, but they're not supporting you with time and money. They support you because they love you. Right. And that's it. And and and if you can get over those things, you got half a shot. But That's right. It's it's hard. Yeah. That's right. But you just kinda stick with it though. Just if if once you get started,
[01:26:17] Unknown:
once you get over that hump, you know, you get into the routine of doing it, it's a lot easier, you know. And and don't cheat, you know. Don't don't don't don't write a show script strictly off of AI. Yeah. You can use AI as a as a as a guide maybe, you know. But don't don't don't write your show off of AI.
[01:26:35] Unknown:
Put I, for the most part, don't listen to anything without actual human video. I know that there's, you know, bet because but, you know, I I want someone who's a known expert and and, you know, a professor or someone who's got decades of experience. Otherwise, if it's just like the 10 weird facts about Dukes of Hazard. Oh, I love that title. I wanna watch that. Oh, there's nobody talking to me? Yeah. No. Thanks. I don't wanna hear a script that you didn't write. You know, there's nothing new in this because AI, for all of the things that's fun about it, it's not great at original content, and it's not great at a lot of things. And so as much as we I love some of the things today I can do, but when I look at all of it, I'm like, yeah, that no. Thanks. That's not gonna be something for me to consume as much as I can avoid it. I like to have real humans interact. Yeah. And if I don't feel something from something, even if it's a human, then I'm gonna turn it off. Yeah. I I I agree with you. I don't I don't waste time watching those those
[01:27:29] Unknown:
those videos, like, you know, your your your sign is this, and, you know, you're I don't really waste time watching that stuff because first of all, it's an AI voice. It's not even a human voice. And it's a it's a script that's being read. It it's it's not entertaining. It's it's just a bunch bunch of nonsense.
[01:27:45] Unknown:
But, Yeah. Real prose did that. Real prose. Mhmm. You know, like, actual, like, if Tom Hanks is reading something or it's in Tom Hanks' voice and, David Mamet wrote it, I'm gonna be entertained because that's what they do for a living. Exactly. Exactly. So even if it's 10% less of them because it's done through AI, I'm still in for that. But but and and no offense to anybody who does this. If you're in your, you know, in your garage and you're working on your show and you're not putting the work in to become great, then you are earning you are earning my attention. Mhmm. You you've got to you've got to got greatness only can be found if you practice and you suck for you gotta go through sucking. Yep. And if you don't suck and you have AI tell you something that oh my gosh. You just that's not the way there are people that do it that way. Good for them.
But you're not gonna get my attention if I have even a whiff of it. Yeah. And and that's just how I am. Maybe I'm an old man, but that's what I am. Nah. You're not old. I I but I because I agree with you, and I'm probably older than you anyway. So,
[01:28:43] Unknown:
so, Pete, so let's let's let's actually get to the actual questions. Are we gonna get to work? Yeah. Let's get to work. Yeah. So you've you've had a really unique career path. Military espionage, espionage, podcasting, you know, working with charities. What first shaped your worldview and and set you out on this on this journey that you're on with this?
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Which, by the way, you have a great show, by the way. I grew up in the '8 seventies and eighties. Right? And it was a different time to be a kid. We were allowed to be out of the house. We didn't you had to invent your own fun. You had to ride your bike. You had to throw a ball at somebody. You had to get punched in the face. And all these kind of things just turn you into someone who, at least in my world, can go and exist in someone else's home. And and, I don't know. Like, for me, the safest place was to be is out of the house. And that just kinda gave me an independent streak that I still don't know where the edges of it are. You know? I I I struggle with, authority. And this is from a guy who's in the army. You know? So I'm like, I'm chaffing at it all the time. I also, I play hard because I learned that when because, you know, like all kids, I was pick on able. You know? All kinds of kids are like that. And so I had to stand up for myself and I had to take like, I'm not gonna take this anymore. And I remember, you know, one of my big moments in my life, we're just playing baseball. And and the kids would let each other play. Right? But, you would get dogged by people. And so this guy was dogging me, and I'm like, you've gotta shut up. You've gotta shut up.
And there's bigger kids or smaller kids, but this guy wouldn't shut up. So I slid into second base and I dropped him. Nice. I'm like, this is what you do. You know? And I didn't wanna I hated the fighting thing. I was all sick to my stomach when I was gonna but I'm like, I was resolved. And, he never made fun of me again. And on that baseball field, I could play baseball and nobody would razz me because they knew there was a consequence and that I I might hit him. Look. Maybe I got lucky and knocked me out. Did I even hurt him? Probably not. But still, nobody nobody's gonna go after the guy who actually punches back. Doing violence between kids. No. But sometimes kids gotta be the boss of of their area. And and these things, I think, set me on a path of, I can do more than I realize. And things that are are scary are are sometimes worth doing. Sometimes you shouldn't jump off the roof as long as you break your ankle, but, sometimes you gotta jump off the roof just to see if you can figure out where the bounds of things are. And that sounds insane, but that's the world that we grew up in. That's exactly what I can.
Yeah. And so when when it comes to danger and doing things physically, pretty hard. Am I the world's greatest athlete? No. But I was I was a good athlete. And when I got to the army, I was more of an athlete than all the nerds that I was around because it's intel. And so I'm like, oh, these guys can't even compete with me physically. I can do more push ups. I can run faster. I can throw the ball. You know? I can lead in these regards. Mhmm. And I have a degree like everybody else, and I'm studying and I go, oh, man. I can really thrive here. I can really out compete my peers. And, that's a great way to start, but it is tough to navigate. Because when you start being this arrogant guy who's always trying to destroy your peers, that doesn't read well to everybody else. That's right. Now you're you're And and so you've got and I I imagine it's the same like any, like, any kind of force, like a a fire department, a police force, or anything like that. If you're out there and you're always alpha ing and you don't know how to, you know, it it's easy to be arrogant. And and I wasn't trying to be arrogant, but I was really confident. And those things, they blend over. And I radiated arrogance and not aloofness, but because I was still likable.
But, it didn't serve me well in terms of standing. So I stood out because I accomplished things, but it was like, yeah, but your attitude. I'm like, what do you mean my attitude? Oops. There's my attitude.
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I know what you mean, man. I I I I know exactly what you mean. Now you served in the military, which again, I don't know if if you heard me before, but thank you for your service. And I'm I'm usually hesitant to say that to to to a lot of a lot of folks because I had one experience not too long ago where, they were and I told the story in another show too. I had this one experience not too long ago where I I saw a veteran, a Korean War veteran sitting in a in a little shop over here, and I went over and I said, hey, sir. You know, thank you for your service. And he just stopped. He looked at me. He was like, well, thank you for reminding me of of this, this, and this, and this. I appreciate that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He's being a dick. Yeah. I I I was like so I usually ask first before I mention it, but, yeah. You you don't seem like you're gonna, like, pop off if I said it. So
[01:33:21] Unknown:
No. And and you know what? I'll I'll I'll give everybody a little bit of a clue. So it's great to say that. Right? But it's a little bit like, hey. How you doing? How's your back? You know, kind of thing. Like, you have to if you wanna do it well, you you have to mean it. And that means that you have to do it like you mean it. And so you have to say, like like you did. You know? You're like, did I say this already? I appreciate that. And then it's on me to figure out how I'm gonna respond and how do I respond well. You know? And I've tried all kinds of ways. But, like, if someone just says it because they hear veteran and then they they just automatically out of their mouth comes thinking, Like, alright. Well Yeah. Okay. Now that we're over this this fake talk, let's let's get to the real things. And and to just do your best to like, I used to say, like, I can't eat that. Like, I there's no money in that for me. You know? I'm trying to survive here. And so someone who's hurting, who's not not even, like, drowning, you know, they're below drowning, that person's tough to say thank you to because they're like, yeah. Well, I'm fucked.
You know? And and that's the bad thing is is, like, you're trying to be nice to somebody and tell them that they appreciate it, and it's hard for us to hear that. So all I would say is just continue to make that your policy and just grab them by the if you can't, this is just what Pete thinks, something like version of it. But grab them by the hand, look them straight in the eye back. No. I want you to hear me. I couldn't do what I do. Thank you. It's there's all I can do for you is just to say thank you. I can't imagine. And then just leave it at that. You know, like, really, like, pour your heart into it for five seconds, and then that would go a long way. Are you do you have to do that? No. You can just be like, right for your service, and that's gonna be good enough. But if you really wanna do it well, you know, do it well.
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Yeah. I that that that makes total sense, and I agree with you. I I I wouldn't stop saying it, you know, if I saw someone, I I I wouldn't. But it did make you pause for a second and maybe kinda rethink it a little bit. Well, you know, maybe I am bringing back some bad memories. Maybe they really don't wanna relive those things by by by bringing it up to them. But then again, at the same time, you're sitting there wearing a a veteran's hat. So I mean, come on. Yeah. Yeah. You would never know I was a veteran watching me day to day walking around. And and here's the other thing is is if that guy's got demons, they're gonna show up at night anyhow. Yeah. Anybody who's done this kind of work, and you know this,
[01:35:23] Unknown:
that stuff comes up at night. You you alright. Here we go. We're gonna do this dance once again. Exactly. Demons happen when you go to sleep. So what's, what's one cultural lesson that you picked up,
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in the field that still guides you how you see the world today?
[01:35:37] Unknown:
You'll get this because you've moved from New York to Texas. Don't try to out Texas a Texan. Just learn to become a Texan. Don't try to out New York a New Yorker. Yeah. You might know a lot about that place. Let them be better at that than you. Right. We tend to think, like, if I can ape, like, I'm from New York. Oh, I'm I know, you know, whatever. I'm like, this is Jersey. This is Hoboken. The place is Sanatra or whatever. Right? Don't do that. Don't don't act like don't put on airs. Just let them be great at that and ask them, like, who's who's the most if you're in Hoboken and you're like, who's the most important person from this area? Maybe it's Chas Palmetieri. I don't know. Right? But ask let them tell you. And and if they don't wanna talk about Sinatra because he's been dead for thirty years, you know, then who do they talk about? Oh, we talk about this kid who plays baseball, you know, or whatever it is. Right? They have something. So let them be great at where they're from.
If I if I came to your hometown of Texas and you said, hey. Let me show you this place. I'm desperate to have you tell me that. I I want you to show me the best things about where you're from. You take me to your best you know, look. I mean, obviously, barbecue. Right? But but, what do you call those, hot dog wrap, bread things you guys have down there? Kolaches. Yes. Yeah. Your where's your kolache place? Right? Like, I know enough to say that, and you're like, oh, I got two. And then you're gonna take me to those places, and that's how I'm gonna work your culture to my advantage. Right. Yeah. Exactly. Now mind you, I live on the border. So I live I live in Eagle Pass. So I'm I'm I am right on the border with Mexico. So there's more Mexican
[01:37:06] Unknown:
flavor here than than Texas barbecue flavor. And, unfortunately, there there's really no good pizza around here either. It sucks. It's terrible. Yeah. There's one place that that they do a pretty decent job, and, they're they're they're good folks, and they they take good criticism. So, the first time I had pizza there, I was like, listen. Look. Take it from me. This is not how you're gonna do this. And they listened, and they they made some changes. And it it, the the but it that's the only place that I found here that's good. There there's a chain here.
[01:37:40] Unknown:
Oh, it's horrible. It's like the worst. It's like, That's like me with Mexican food. You know, I get a certain level north and I get a certain level east, and it's not a very big window. It's not just in California, but, yeah, all of them like that. Yeah. My cousin's in Montana. Let's go get Mexican. I'm like,
[01:37:56] Unknown:
you know, I'll go with you, but let's not call it Mexican. Yeah. Because it's not. It it's not at all. But this this one place here is called, Peter Piper's. I don't know if you guys have that where you are. I've had Peter Piper pizza before. It's the worst pizza I've ever had in my life. It's like it's like a grade below Chuck E. Cheese.
[01:38:15] Unknown:
Oh my gosh. Yeah. You're right. You're right. That's exactly where I put it. Right around in that zone. Yeah. Let me ask you this, because this is a Texas thing, and so and so some folks may not realize this. You can reach a point in West Texas where you are so far west, you are no longer in West Texas. That sounds insane, but it's true. And so if you say to someone who's, like, in El Paso at the border, they'll think they're in West Tech tell you where it stops. And you're like, wait. Fort Fort Jefferson is where it's yeah. Anything past that, that's not Texas. That's not West Texas. You know, I'm like, what the hell is it? But all they know is that's where it stops. Right? So have you heard this at all about I have not heard when you get out out of your way? I've not heard that, but I I can understand it. I can relate to it because,
[01:39:02] Unknown:
I I love I love the city that I live in. Eagle Pass is great has been great to me since I've been here. So, you know, anybody listening or watching in Eagle Pass, I love you. Yeah. I have I have I have a bunch of good friends here. I'm I'm, I'm personal friends with the mayor right now, and, the former city managers and I are are good friends. And, you know, so these guys are great. I mean, I have not had a bad experience with the, the city government in any way since I've been here. Ten years. Never had an incident. I I extremely polite, great people. But having said that, this Eagle Pass is more Mexico than it is Texas.
Yeah. I don't speak That's the same thing go ahead. I don't speak a lick of Spanish. I understand more than what I let on, but that's also because I come from a Sicilian background. So, and my Italian is very similar to, to to Spanish in some ways. There's a lot of differences, but, you know, it's it's some similarity, so I was able to pick it up a little faster. But, yeah. Yeah. It's it's kinda tough, and so the only thing I say is when when any store you go into here that they immediately start off with Spanish, and I'm like, You know?
And then they Yeah. They look at you funny. Well, you just did. You know?
[01:40:22] Unknown:
That's how, so when I think about the South, the South stops somewhere in Mid Florida in terms of just the Florida part. Right? Mhmm. And two measures for if you're in the South. If you order iced tea, if they bring you sweet tea automatically without asking, you are for sure in the South. Mhmm. If they say, do you want sweet or regular? Then you're probably somewhere near the South. And if they just bring you iced tea with nothing in it, then you're nowhere near the South. And and there's that. But when you go to Florida, you reach a spot. It's probably south of of of Palm Beach area. You know? But then it becomes a different place. It's more Caribbean. It's more Spanish. And, like, parts of Miami, you're like, this is not the South at all. Right? It it's completely different place. And they will talk to you in Spanish primarily.
The billboards are in Spanish, and so you know, like, this is a different place. And so, yeah, it's a weird thing, but a lot of Florida is not the South. It is something else. And, also, it's just a melting pot of everybody there. It's like Vegas. Everybody's from somewhere else, and and and you'll meet someone that just moved there that day every
[01:41:26] Unknown:
day. Yeah. Florida's great, though. I love I love the I've been to Florida just twice in my life, and it it I I never cease to be impressed. You know? Just just the the the differences, just turning turning a street corner. You got especially especially if you're down in in near the in where the Cuban area is mostly. Yeah. You know? I mean, yeah, it's just that's just amazing. That's great. Now I when I worked in New York City, I worked in I had three districts in in Upper Manhattan, so I I spanned I went from river to river. It was the area that I was responsible for. That was my sector. So I went from the East River to the Hudson River. And so I went from from Spanish Harlem to, to to West Harlem.
And the differences in the in the communities were just amazing. In Spanish Harlem, you had and and it was funny to see it this way, but you had a little Cuban section, you had a little Puerto Rican section, you had a little Mexican section, you had section, you had this, and it was just amazing to be there. Just just to and and just the food is amazing. Oh, that's another thing you gotta do when you come down here. You gotta you gotta cross over, and you gotta hit the food trucks over in Mexico. You wanna talk about some of the best food? The food trucks in Mexico have the best food ever. And what I love about them is the fact that you'll sit there, you'll watch them prepare the food, and if you really show that you're interested in what they're doing, they they will they will act they will put on the show for you because they want you to enjoy that. You know, they're not just gonna slop it all together, you know, like most food trucks do, you know, like this sort of I mean, they will they they take such pride in what they do at the in these food trucks. I mean, it's it's amazing, and the food is incredible. And you got some of that too up in New York, until until I went to this one one place, I was up in, in Queens. I was working a detail, and, we were in Flushing Meadows Corona Park.
And, the the guy that I was working with that day, you know, he was like, hey. Do you wanna try something? I was like, yeah. Sure. What? Takes me over to this thing, and they have these skewers with these big chunks of meat on it. He goes, wanna try that? I'm like I'm looking at him, like, I don't know. What is that? And I forgot what they called it in in in in in Spanish, but, basically what it was, it was rat on a stick. Yeah. Yeah. And I was like, yeah. No. Why would you why would you offer that to somebody? It's terrible, but people are buying it, dude. They were just, like, chomping on that thing. It was the nastiest thing ever. Off the track. Off the track.
On your show, I wanna talk about your podcast. Yeah. Alright. Because, this is this is interesting to me, and it's something that I wanna learn from you on this one. Now you've had you've interviewed hundreds of guests, really good guests. I I've I've checked out your show. You have a really good show. I enjoy it. And, my I guess I guess my question is, I'm at the point now where I have to start getting a little picky as to who comes on the show and who doesn't. How do you decide who you bring on the platform?
[01:44:33] Unknown:
I, who's interesting to me? I I don't consider the audience at all. Okay. Because if I like it, my audience is gonna like things that I love or they're not. And and not every episode is supposed to be for everybody. That includes me. And so I may have someone on. Like, let's say and and I'm glad to have you on. But let's just say I have you on and it doesn't work out. You're you're more conservative than I am for sure. I'm also like, your buddy who's in the middle, that that's sort of like me. Right? Mhmm. Let's say you get super crazy wacky QAnon to the right. Right? And I'm like, yeah. You know what? That's not the vibe I wanna put out. And so I I won't I'll like you, but I won't have your back, you know, because that isn't what I wanna do. Or I'll find something else for us to talk about. Like, we'll talk about sports or something else. Right. Yeah. But, yeah, that's that's about as picky as I am, but there are things I I don't do. And so if you're an emerging author and you've written one book, it's your first book, chances are I won't have you on because I can't help you. I I I can't get you over the top, especially if your book is and this is no knock, but if your book is self published and not edited, I I I'm not gonna expose my audience. One time I think about my audience. I'm not gonna expose my audience to that. Like, you have to be better than that. I'm glad to give someone a shot, so I'll make an exception to my exception. Mhmm. But but that's a norm. If you're a coach and you're 20 years old, I'm not gonna have you on my show. I I I don't I don't like coaches. So, like, on PodMatch, I'm definitely what is it? Swipe left. Whatever it is. I I don't I don't do coaches because for the part, I don't have faith in their approach. And, look, they're they're, I hate to say this. This is so unfair, but they're a little shystery to me because I'm like, well, why are you and and if you say why are you they have an answer for that. And so I I just don't I don't wanna hear from coaches. I wanna hear from people who are wise over coaches. Not that coaches can't be wise, but that branding for me, that's I draw a pretty firm line there. Now I've had coaches on. You know? I've also had, Jim Mora junior on my show. He's a coach. Really? He's okay because he's a real coach. Right. Yeah. I'm saying really? There's that That was pretty neat.
Yeah. And and so I'm not that picky, but you've gotta be bringing something. Mhmm. Because because that's that's the rules. Right? And so that that's how it's at. But but I love to give people a shot. But as I just said, I don't want emerging authors. Well, shot, if a veteran reaches out, I'm probably gonna say yes. Even if it breaks all of my rules, I'm gonna give them a shot because if nothing else, they get a rep and and they they have a chance to do something. You know? Yeah. Because some of them aren't ready. You know? And then I just have done what I can for them. And and look, if you these shows, almost every single show is good. And so if there's a couple of stinkers, what do I care?
It's my that's my approach is, is it interesting to me? Do I wanna have them back? You're like, I wanna have you on my show. I wanna I wanna have a great conversation with you. I wanna talk about policing in New York and all these other things that go on. I wanna do that. Right? So that's interesting. And so I'll I'll have a lot of people from PodMatch on my show, but I don't book for my show on PodMatch. My show is on there, but I may because I I don't use it to book guests. Anybody who's on there, I can just book them on my own, and I don't I don't need PodMatch for that.
[01:47:45] Unknown:
Well, that makes sense. You know, and actually, I I've been I used PodMatch when I started doing interviews more regularly because I needed to kinda cut my teeth on it. And I figured this this is a good way to do it, you know. And now I'm I'm, you know, I'm using another, I'm using another site to to get some really good that's how this is where I got, Peter Ticton from is, radioguestlist.com. And, super super site. I mean, I dude. And I tell you, when I first put my profile up, poor Angela. I mean, because I because I put her email down as the contact, and she got swamped with with all these all these bookings. And, my calendar filled up. I I got booked all the way through until the September, pretty quickly. And, you know, so I I guess my reason for asking that question is because I I gotta I gotta start weaning myself away from Mhmm. You know, just picking anybody and everybody.
And, and and, I just it's it's the matter of when. When is the right time? And I feel like the time is now.
[01:48:54] Unknown:
If you think about this, you've got a lot of yes. Then as you build up a catalog, you'll need less and less fresh because the authors will write a book a year or a book every other year. Right. So all of a sudden people that I'll have on my show. I might have them on twice in a year. You know, like, I've got these guys right for the the Tom Clancy universe that come on my show. I can't get enough of those guys. I love talking to them. I can't believe that I built a show where I get to talk to someone who's writing Tom Clancy books. That's that's ridiculous. You know? And so, let's say that there's for me now, I you know, look, I'm further down the road than you are, but but you've been I've been in your spot.
Do I need 50 original guests that I get in a year? Maybe. Is it a 100? Yeah. But it's not 200. You know? And so all of a sudden, I'm like, a 100? Well, shoot. I can I can find a 100? You know? And and that's kinda how I handle that is I bring other people on who who have something new to talk about. Mhmm. I've had a lot of amazing people on the show. I can go back at any ask any of them, and they'll have something new because they're all in the business of having something new.
[01:49:57] Unknown:
Yeah. And, you know, also for me, I as I I played around with a lot of different subjects. So I, you know, I I've interviewed, paranormal investigators, which I like. I I don't I I enjoy that. I I get a kick out of that stuff because I've had my own I've had my own experiences, so it was a lot of fun to share those stories. And, and and this one particular couple that they they're they're I don't know if they're I know they were moving at the time that I met them, and so I don't know if they're back doing their podcast or not, but they had a great little show called Creepy Coffey's Podcast. And, they were a husband and wife ghost hunting team, and they had some great stories. We had a lot of fun talking. I would love to talk to them again, you know, and have them back on to see what they're up to. And we were we were actually talking about trying to get them to come down here to go to this cemetery not too far from me. We're gonna do an overnight and hang out there. But, you know, it's so I I've had them. I've I've had people that, I I had one one guy, super smart guy. I I felt like I was totally out of my league on this one, because I had no information. He's over here talking about zero point energy and, you know, level five civilizations and stuff like that, and I'm like, well, that's great. I mean, I don't I don't I'm a little bit lost on that stuff, but I learned something. You know, I got something out of it. You know, so I so I I've had a range of guests on the show, and it's just it's been it's been great. But I I think I I'm starting to feel like it's time. Like, I and I told my producer that, you know, we gotta start getting a little picky with with who's coming on. Yeah. Well, I would And I don't mean to I don't mean to sound like a snob.
[01:51:31] Unknown:
You know? No. No. No. You you no. I get exactly what you're saying. You know, like, you don't wanna just take anybody that comes to the door. And and so I would spend time reaching out to things that are really incredible to you that you don't think you have access to. I love doing this to my friends. They'll say, oh my god. Pete. I mean, keep my my friends don't listen to my show. I read the most amazing book. They're talking to me as Pete. They're not talking to me as Pete Day Turner, podcast producer. They're like and it was it was about this thing and there's a story. I'm like, who wrote the book? Like, oh, it's Jim Stevens. Oh my god. I love that book. Like, I'm gonna book him on the show. You're gonna sit next to me, and we're gonna talk to that dude. Oh, awesome. And they're like, wait. What? What? No. Really? And I'm like, yeah.
I'll get that guy. And so then here's what I do. I go online, and I look him up. Bam. And I book it, and I blow my friend's brain. You know, they're just like, what? I can't believe you know? And so I have to do stuff like that. Or, if there's a a business or a cool place that I wanna go to, I'll reach out. Maybe it's a convention, and I'll reach out and I'll say, you know, I'd love to come down and and, do some shows based off you know, support you guys. And they'll yeah. Of course. And, yeah, it's funny. Like, people are like, oh, you gotta have a press credential. I make the press credential.
You make the press credential. You know, like, we make them ourselves. You you just ride me into the their job is to say yes. And so you're like, I authorize Pete Turner to come to the SHOT Show or whatever it's gonna be. Right. And then and then they're like, yeah. Of course. Because they designed it. They want media to come, so you just act like your media because you are. And then all of a sudden, you're like, I'm at SHOT Show, and there's so and so, and there's so and I'm saying SHOT Show is an example. Right? But there's celebrities at all these things. And then I'm like, I can ask any one of these guys. They'll tell me yes here. It may not be a real yes because we're working. But if I follow-up with them in a in a good way, that yes may turn into yes. May still be a no, but I've not met all these new people in this world that I'm fascinated by. And now, I can book 25 people over the course of a year from this world. You know, who's got a new book? Who's selling a whiskey? Who's doing this? Who's doing that? And so even if I'm being a little permissive, I'm being permissive in a world that I wanna explore. I gotcha. Yeah. I like that. That's good. That's really good.
[01:53:35] Unknown:
Let's dream big here for a second. If you could bring anyone on your podcast, living, past, who would be the guest that makes you feel like you've hit the big leagues?
[01:53:45] Unknown:
Well, if they're dead, I'd bring Hitler on my show, because who doesn't wanna talk to that guy? Mhmm. I'd just sit him down and be like, alright, man. Listen. You didn't do so good in history. I'm pretty mad at you still. They've written a lot of you're probably the number one heel of all time, you know, and and just, just to have that conversation.
[01:54:03] Unknown:
Well, I mean, because everybody everybody who in the everybody in the world who is is, hated is automatically Hitler. So
[01:54:12] Unknown:
Right. Right. Right. He is the heel. He's like imagine the world in history as being WWE. He he's he's the heel. He the heel's heel. Right? Mhmm. So whenever I'm told, this is the contrarian in me, that something is true, that these guys are evil, this corporation is evil, I just reach out to them. And I'm like, I'm told you're evil. I'd rather just get to know you guys where you're at. And and they may lie to me. I don't care about that. But what I do care about is I don't wanna be fed something. And so if something's true, it's gonna be true. Like, the the whole Israel Palestine conflict, a lot of people are getting fed. Both sides. Mhmm. But primarily, you know, the Hamas side because those guys turns out are terrorists. Right? And so I just go get people who are in the IDF who studied this stuff professionally, and I'm like, what do you think? And they laugh. They're like, it's all so ridiculous. No one takes those people seriously Mhmm. Because they're not living in a real world. Right? So, way back when, I was told how Monsanto was this horrible company. And and look, it's a corporation, and they have IP, and they sue people. Oh, okay. Great. So we talked to them, and we had a we had a pre meeting, which is pretty rare for us. But, you know, we know we can't ask them about active lawsuits, so we're not gonna do that. And so we said, we're not gonna ask you about stuff you can't answer. We just wanna get to know who you guys are and what you do. And, like, we've got a guy for that. And so we sat down with this guy named Ty Griffin, and he's like, listen, we're desperate to solve these these agricultural problems. Nobody else does this, at least not at our level. So here's what we do. We go to all the big ag schools and we hire all of the top graduates that we can gobble up because we have so much work.
Pete, ask me where that work comes from. Okay, Ty. Where does that work come from? Farmers. They have problems they can't solve. Mhmm. And so if we don't do this, who's gonna all of a sudden you're like, wait a second. And so yeah. Predatory practices because they have to protect their stuff and their corporation and and they just sue people and they get her up to okay. Great. But also, they save different kinds of, products that would have gone extinct or or have, been attacked by a blight. They save those things. They help people who don't have ideal soil. They help. They help. They help. And so look. I'm not saying the scale is balanced in any way because I don't know that. But I do know there's a lot of good on their side of the scale that feeds a lot of people. And they and they make always great points. Like, the world is getting, you know, not any bigger, but the people are more, and they want more food. And so we have to help get bigger yields. That's one of the problems that we solve. Mhmm. How can I be mad at that? Oh, you can't. It's a noble cause. Right. Right. But I was told that they were awful. Yeah. I was gonna I was gonna say that. Yeah.
[01:56:43] Unknown:
Yeah. You're you're you're beaten over the head over bad at communication.
[01:56:47] Unknown:
You know? They admit that. Like, you know, like, we can't talk well because of of what happens when we do. And so we do our best, but we always struggle with our messages because lawyers like, you can't say that we'll get sued. You can't say that and they're probably right because who are you gonna sue? You're gonna sue Monsanto because they're a bad guy. Right. And that's all you hear is is just it it's Monsanto this and Monsanto that. Yeah.
[01:57:08] Unknown:
Look. There's every every company is good and bad. Everybody had every every company has an upside, downside, and not every company is gonna be completely ethical in everything that they do, you know, unfortunately. But I think as a whole, the the company in and of itself is it's it's not an evil corporation. You know? I I don't see it that way. I disagree with a lot of people who say that. You know? Not all corporations are evil.
[01:57:35] Unknown:
Yeah. And you notice that nobody's mad at Bayer and they bought them. Yeah. So Bayer. Some amount of that is is BS. Right? Yeah. Bayer who no. I'm not gonna get to what Bayer did in the past.
[01:57:46] Unknown:
We all we all know. We all know. So, we're running out of time here. So let me, let me let me hit you with some of this. I'd like to ask you a little bit about Save the Brave.
[01:57:56] Unknown:
So, why don't you tell me how you first got involved? But I will tell you about them. That's that's old from my bio, but I will tell you everything I know about them because they're great guys.
[01:58:04] Unknown:
So how did you first get involved?
[01:58:07] Unknown:
Well, my buddy Scott Husing ended up being the the the president, the director of it. And so he's a author and a marine, and, we just became really good friends. And he said, hey. I'm doing this. We help whatever. And so I helped a little bit here and there. And I was I was behind him a 100%. But, you know, whenever I could, I could help him. I I did. And then the big thing was is during COVID, one of his buddies, veteran, drank himself to death and and he lived in South Carolina. And so Scott was saying to me, we both live in California. At least he lives in Texas now, but we live both live in California. And he's like, I'm I'm gonna get on my motorcycle and just try to sort this out. I don't know what I'm gonna do. Like, I'm just so brokenhearted. We grew up together. We joined the service together, and now he's gone. And it's just it was so needless. And so I'm just gonna ride my motorcycle by myself across the desert. And I'm like, check that. You can ride your motorcycle all you want, but I'm gonna be on your six in my truck with the cooler Mhmm. Full of drinks. I'm gonna make sure that you're alright. You do as hard a thing as you want to do, I'm still gonna be there because I don't want you to be coming in kind of danger by yourself. Desert's a big place. And so he's like, did we just invent something? And I'm like, I think we did. And so that's what that's what the ride for the brave became. And so we first year, we rode he and I his him on his motorcycle, me and my truck, and then he thing there and back, as you can imagine.
And then the next year, it was, he flew back, and I I drove the truck there and back. But, yeah, we did it for four straight years. It was a lot of work. It was a lot a lot a lot of work. A lot of love, though, and it was amazing. And and so we sort of just reached like like, there's nothing we can do to top this. We can't continue it. So, we're both gonna go do new things. And so that there was never any animosity to save the brave. We all just wanted something different at that point. We had we had reached the conclusion of the ride for the brave, but it was amazing. And it turns out, like, when you show up and you say, hey. We're here. And here's what we're talking about, veteran suicide. By the way, two years later, my brother took his life, also a veteran. And we didn't know all these things were gonna happen. And while I'm driving, I'm getting so and so just took their life. And I became this beacon, and Scott too, for people that, like, didn't know what to do when the veteran in their life had had taken their own life. And and so it it was an amazing thing to be able to be a resource for people. And still to this day, you know, I've gotten good at people dying. So people call me all the time, so and so died. What what do you think I need to do or whatever?
And, yeah, I I still help people try to sort it out whenever I can. Do my best. You know, sometimes you just gotta go through that fire yourself, but that's what that's what my mission has become after after the ride for the brave engine was just being of service to other people who are trying to figure out what to do when when someone they love is hurting so bad that they either hurt themselves or take themselves out? And and how do you get in front of that? I'm a big I'm a big believer in don't ask someone who's hanging on to the end of their rope to to reach out and call you. No. No. No. Way before that, you reach out to them. Be active in their life. Yeah. That's important. Know that someone cares about it. Because when you think nobody cares about you and your phone never rings, you can believe it even if it's not true. Yeah. You're absolutely right. Yeah. I I know exactly what you're talking about. I know I know too many people that fell into that cycle, and, unfortunately, aren't aren't here with aren't here with us today. Yeah. And they aren't here with us today because of that.
[02:01:19] Unknown:
You know? So it was tough. Yeah. So who's someone you respect right now, and what are they doing that we should keep an eye on?
[02:01:26] Unknown:
Boy, I am amazed by, that guy Scott Bessent. I'm I'm not a big Trump guy. I want him to succeed and all that stuff. Every time I see Scott Bessent talking, I'm like, why don't we have someone like this all the time? Why is it always someone who is I can look on the spot. I'll watch him talk and I'm like, this person's lying to me, you know. Like, I can see it. And and, this guy just impresses the hell out of me. That might make a lot of people upset, but but I don't care. Like, I when this guy's talking and maybe he's all wrong. Maybe he's gonna screw it up, but this guy doesn't have a history of screwing things up. He has a history of doing great. And I'm like, oh my god. Who is this guy? And I I can't get enough of him. I I want him and everything he's saying to to be right. And, I just I'm super yeah. He's on our side. And this is what I've always wanted was how do we get why do we always scrape from the bottom of the barrel of people? Why aren't we getting the cream of the crop? And, he he seems to me now, you know, smash cut to some kinda atrocity. But for right now, he seems to be just a an amazing person to have in charge of the treasury. I I can't believe it. Yeah. I I agree with you. You know, I when he was first announced, I I was like,
[02:02:34] Unknown:
I I don't know much about this guy, you know, other than what you hear in the news and and whatnot. But, you know, I'm I'm impressed. I'm really impressed, and I I I feel confident with when I see him speaking about these about the financial matters of the of the country, I don't know. I feel kinda confident that it's going in the right direction, that that he he has an understanding of of what he's doing, that he's not just, like, you know you know, putting his finger up in the wind and seeing which way it blows, you know, to decide whether he's gonna, you know, which direction he's gonna go. He's leading. Yeah. He is. Absolutely.
[02:03:04] Unknown:
Reminds me of is, you remember when back in the eighties when Reagan would go off into a room with Gorbachev or whoever it was, and he'd come out and and you just knew you had a you had a bulldog. And I I don't I'm not like Reagan is God kinda guy, but but you had confidence. Like, this guy's gonna go do a great job for us. And I was 15 or 14 or, you know, whatever. I was young, but I was like, wow. That's a good guy to have around. And so just I have that similar feeling where if Scott Besson is going into a meeting to negotiate for improving the the finances of our country,
[02:03:33] Unknown:
for for right now until he proves otherwise, and I didn't start there. I he's put me here. I believe him, and I I want him to do great. That's the same thing with with, with Lutnick as as well as as at the at the same Same. Same. Yeah. I mean, with with these two with these two, I I feel confident that that this administration is gonna start pulling us out of this doldrum that we've been in for the last four years. I mean, it I it's, I'm really impressed with the with the with the cabinet that that that the president put together,
[02:04:02] Unknown:
this time around. Yeah. I think I think he I can't speak to most of the offices, but for sure, let let me tell his story. And I I basically start to cry because he lost everything. Mhmm. And by everything, he lost friends
[02:04:15] Unknown:
and everything on 09/11. I think but he wasn't he, like, the only one who survived?
[02:04:20] Unknown:
I believe he is the only one that survived from his firm. Yeah. And then he went back and built it bigger and better and all in their honor. And that right there, that part there,
[02:04:28] Unknown:
that chokes me up. That's a testimony to character.
[02:04:31] Unknown:
Yeah. I want that. I'm gonna see, like, I'm in the book somewhere now. This is a genuine I want that guy on my side. And you know what? I believe that he is. I I see so many politicians who are like, you're not on my side. You you hate me. You know, whatever me is, like, you're not in any way interested in me. And, I see Howard Butnick, and he is the he is the one that makes me, like, right. I'm generally my my eyes have welled up because I know that that guy is true. Mhmm. And Agreed. And if he's putting me on, great. Then he's got me sold. But when I I just these are guys I respect right now, and I see with them doing something. And I hope it works, you know, because it's not just them in charge of things. You know, all kinds of things can torpedo stuff. You know, whole pandemic can start. You never know. But, I'll I'll take all the wins that those guys can get. Even if I'm I'm a little bit cross with Donald Trump,
[02:05:17] Unknown:
I'm not cross with those guys. I wanna see him win. Yeah. Absolutely. Absolutely. You look, you know, I I am a Trump supporter. I I I I'm I'm absolutely thrilled that he's back in the White House. Do I agree with everything? No. I don't agree with everything. But that's that's important, you know. You you it's not you can't you can't always walk lockstep with the with with the administration that's that's in in office, whether it's whether it's left, right, middle, whatever it is. You know, use your mind. Think.
[02:05:46] Unknown:
Think. Yeah. Remember what it is And I'm not filed by, like, the celebrity part of it, any of it. You know? I don't care about that. Look. It's just that's not important. And and and I don't lockstep with Donald Trump. But if Donald Trump is gonna get peace in all these places, then I'll take all the peace deals he can get to. Is it seven wars he stopped? Yeah. I mean, peace is better than war because peace means you have words. And it may be a rough peace. It may be a dangerous peace, but you have words to exchange still. When you run out of words like Hamas and Israel, then people are gonna die and it's gonna be horrible, and it's very hard to stop those kind of things. And so anytime he can get a peace deal, I'm gonna be on board. I don't care if it's a crappy deal. No one's supposed to like a peace deal. It's gonna be hard on everybody. So just get them done so we can get to the business of healing and getting folks together. You're never gonna get everything you want in a peace deal.
Not not no side is ever gonna get what they want entirely, though. If it would have been if we could have paid Putin a trillion dollars on day one to stop, we should have done it. $2,000,000,000,000. Whatever it is. Right? Mhmm. Figure out how to pay the bill later on, but but get him to stop before it ever happens. And now instead and and listen. I'm gonna tell you something you would for sure know. When you kill, I don't know, 20% of the men in Ukraine Mhmm. Or Russia, you kill all these men, women are gonna get abused. Brutal. It's gonna be awful. They're gonna get murdered. They're gonna get raped. They're gonna get hooker and all this kind of thing. Mhmm. And and, that's the cost of war, and I don't want that. I've seen too much of that stuff in my life. You have too. I don't need any more of that. I don't need anything that that creates that. And so, yeah, I'll take all the peace deals he can get. Absolutely. I think what was the last total was, was 1,700,000
[02:07:21] Unknown:
Ukrainians? It's terrible. It's it's ridiculous, and and this is something that should never have gotten to this point. But I don't know if you can hear him in the background, but my, my little alarm clock is barking at the door, letting me know that they're they're hungry. So so, so, Pete, so where can the audience go to find out more about your work and what you're doing and follow you wherever?
[02:07:43] Unknown:
You go on x. Super simple. P a Turner. I've got a channel here on Rumble, but but I don't really tend to it very much. If you really wanna get a hold of me, you go on to YouTube or just Pete a Turner, on x. You'll find me. I'm not hard to I'm glad to talk to you. And if you wanna get a hold of me and those aren't your things, Pete@breakitdown excuse me. [email protected] is a good place to go. And thank you for having me on, man. I Oh, no. This was great, brother. I for doing all this stuff with me. It's it's it's great. Break it down, show. Awesome. If you guys can listen to it, great. If not, that's cool. I'm not everybody's cup of tea, but maybe I'm yours. Yeah. Never know. You know? But and it is a great show, by the way. Like I said, I I've checked it out prior to you prior to to prior to tonight
[02:08:20] Unknown:
and, really impressed with it, and I enjoyed it. I had a bunch of laughs, and I agreed with you on a lot of stuff. I disagree with you on a few things. Nothing earth shattering. No no big deals, but, you know, it's it's like whatever. Yeah. Everybody's entitled to opinions. But, but you definitely need to check him out. Great show. You really enjoy it, folks. And, what we're gonna do here is, we're gonna say goodbye to Pete. We're gonna, go through our closing really quickly. And, let's see. Before we do that, while we have Pete up here, because I have Pete Pete will probably like this. So, our new partner is American Hemp Pub.
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Introduction and Show Overview
Guest Lineup and Show Cancellation Apology
Interview with Peter Ticton: Legal Career and Insights
Election Integrity and Political Insights
America First Ground Zero Conference
Introduction to Second Hour and Pete Turner
Pete Turner's Career and Podcasting Journey
Dream Guests and Notable Figures
Save the Brave and Veteran Support
Closing Remarks and Show Information
