In this lively crypto-focused episode, I welcome back our resident “crypto psychic,” Marisa Lee to dig into market sentiment, leadership energy around top projects, and what might catalyze the next big move. We talk through her intuitive reads on several CEOs and ecosystems—highlighting Algorand (ALGO) and Internet Computer (ICP) as strong buys—plus why lending protocols like Morpho and Moonwell could shine as capital shifts away from traditional banking. We also examine potential implications of putting elements of the national debt on-chain, balancing transparency and efficiency with concerns around centralization, cost, and security. Timing-wise, Marisa still sees a sharp bull run “around the corner,” followed by a fast, scary correction—so we discuss strategies, risk, and the importance of cold storage. We close with practical tips for newcomers on moving assets to hardware wallets and a quick, actionable shopping list she’s accumulating now (not financial advice).
Outside the markets, we reflect on a difficult national moment and the need to safeguard open dialogue while prioritizing safety—then bring it back to why preparation, patience, and discipline matter when the crypto switch flips.
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(00:04:16) Cold open and show kickoff from Eagle Pass
(00:05:32) Power outage hiccup and late start explained
(00:06:06) Housekeeping: website, contact, and value-for-value support
(00:08:00) Transition to crypto episode; guest Marissa Lee joins
(00:09:13) Fixing the echo: tech troubleshooting on air
(00:09:57) September catch‑up: work chaos, travel, and classes
(00:11:31) Marissa’s mentor and the ego problem among crypto CEOs
(00:13:16) Jersey vs. New York banter and Texas traffic woes
(00:15:21) DUIs in Texas and strict enforcement
(00:15:35) Psychic reads on crypto CEOs: Algorand and ICP standouts
(00:18:28) Policy tailwinds: regulation, funding, and “debt on blockchain”
(00:19:32) Pros and cons of putting national debt on-chain
(00:21:06) Throughput, security, costs, and centralization risks
(00:26:51) Exchanges freezing accounts and cold storage advice
(00:28:11) Bull run timing: delays, the ‘go button,’ and the Fed
(00:29:38) National mood after Charlie Kirk’s death and security talk
(00:33:41) Free speech, dialogue, and differing reactions to tragedy
(00:41:37) Congressional tensions and a defining national moment
(00:43:42) XRP outlook and warning about post‑run corrections
(00:44:54) Fractional real estate via Lofty on Algorand—promise and pitfalls
(00:48:32) Real estate inflation and interest rates; Powell and the Fed
(00:50:51) Tariffs, the Fed skepticism, and market path forward
(00:52:51) Listener Q&A: When will crypto get user‑friendly?
(00:54:39) Marissa’s current buys and near‑term bull run prediction
(00:57:32) Social media bots, scams, and platform gripes
(00:59:36) Where to find Marissa online
(01:00:15) Show close, shout‑outs, and support tiers
(01:04:41) Final sign‑off: independence, keep talking, good night
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Alrighty. Now, we're gonna get into our conversation here with our resident crypto psychic who is waiting here in the wings for us. And, let's bring her on. Hi, Joe. How's it going? Marissa Lee, our resident crypto psychic. It has been a hell of a long time since you and I spoke.
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Yeah. You know, I was just thinking that,
[00:08:57] Unknown:
we don't talk enough, Joe. We don't. We have to talk more. We must talk. We do. You know,
[00:09:03] Unknown:
September is a really, really busy month for me.
[00:09:07] Unknown:
So I hear you. I hear you. It's been a crazy month in the past.
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I'm getting some kind of a back lash on my audio.
[00:09:14] Unknown:
Look on your screen on your studio screen. See if you have a an echo cancellation.
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Oh, yes. I need that. Okay. Hold on. Echo cancellation. Audio. I have it selected.
[00:09:30] Unknown:
You do? Okay. Let me see. Yeah. Yeah. When the power went out, it it messed up everything.
[00:09:38] Unknown:
Yeah. I understand. That's okay. Is that any better?
[00:09:42] Unknown:
Oh my god. That's night and day that fixed it, whatever that was. Okay. Thank you. Thank you. That's so much better. Okay. Yeah. I just had to change it for I had to change it on my end, I guess, from from broadcasting in stereo. Now we have to go back to mono so I can do the echo cancellation. Oh, well. Such as such. Anyway. Anyway. Yeah. So September's been a crazy month all around. I'm I'm I'm I'm having a hell of a month myself. It's been just absolutely insane at the job site. It's we're in our, survey window for the state to come in here and, wreak havoc for a week. So it's been Fun stuff. Yes. It's been busy. It's been very, very busy. So what have you been up to?
[00:10:20] Unknown:
I've been traveling a lot. I've been to five states this month already. So, I did a show in Columbus that went really, really, really well. Great. Let's see. Where did I where else did I go? I I did a couple private events, and then, I also went to New Jersey to take psychic development classes. It's something I do yearly. I do it twice a year, and I love the group that I do this with. I love the teacher. The teacher is top notch. Best psychic in the country, hands down. Most talented person I've ever seen. She could she could do things. She's superhuman. I you know, I joke with her all the time that she's superhuman, but, she's she has no ego whatsoever. She's very humble, very kind.
And, you know, when you see somebody of her caliber and the success that she's had and she's been on all over TV shows, crime shows. She's done some top notch stuff. You know, she used to help solve unsolved cases successfully and got a lot of notoriety for it. So, she's got no ego. And it's it's so admirable to watch that because I've known people that have become very successful, including some of these crypto CEOs, and they just get a crazy ego. And I'm telling you, it's one of the worst things that somebody can develop, especially when they have no self awareness about it. Yeah. I was gonna ask you why would you go to New Jersey? Who wants to go to New Jersey? It's like a swamp. But, I guess that answered the question. Actually, the the area that I was in in New Jersey was gorgeous. It's a resort town. I mean, she lives in a very nice area. So, I love New Jersey. I love the energy there, but I'm also in a really nice area of New Jersey. So, you know, I I haven't really I mean, when I fly into Newark, I wanna get out of Newark as fast as I can.
Whenever I rent a car at the airport and I leave Newark, it is always really difficult to navigate those roads, and everybody's mean, and everything is congested. I'm like, I wanna get out of Newark. Yeah. What do you mean? Certain parts of New Jersey that, you know, are better than others, but I am in a gorgeous area in New Jersey when I take these classes. So Oh, that's great. The
[00:12:22] Unknown:
Southern Jersey, like, where Newark is, that that that's that's, like, typical East Coast obnoxious, you know Mhmm. People just like New York and all that great stuff. But, like like, there there are but there are parts of Southern Jersey which are really pretty, and there are there are parts of Northern New Jersey which are just gorgeous. It's just I think the Southern end of it is more of the swamp area, which everybody talks about the most. So it's, it's it's not a bad place. I just it's it's it's Jersey. It's the, you know, it's the joke of the East. It's what are you gonna do? You know? Yeah. Not you know, not everybody could be a New Yorker, you know? So it's just the way it is.
[00:13:02] Unknown:
I'll take New Jersey over New York all day every day. Oh, would you really? Oh, no way. Oh, yeah. Especially just driving through. You know, New York traffic is, it's I feel like it's probably some of the worst in the country. So I I'll take New Jersey all day every day over New York. You know what I hate nowhere I think has worse traffic than New York?
[00:13:21] Unknown:
San Antonio, Texas. Has some of the worst traffic, and they're they're freaking lunatics. They they're I'm telling you Texas drivers are freaking lunatics. Oh, I I totally agree with you on that. Yeah. Yeah. And and you can't you can't get like a happy medium either. It's either they drive ridiculously slow, or they drive ridiculously fast, and are erratic and all over the place. You cannot get a you can't find that that happy medium. So I I would I would rather drive in Manhattan at peak rush hour than drive in San Antonio. That that's how that's how bad it is.
[00:13:58] Unknown:
You know? Wow. No. I I'll tell you what. I've driven through Texas before, and it's like the state that never ends. And I called in so many DUIs. It's ridiculous. I cannot that's one of the things that triggers me. I cannot stand people that drink and drive. I had a friend that was killed in a drunk driving accident years ago. And, so whenever I see somebody intoxicated, I'm constantly calling them in, and I did a lot of that when I drove through Texas,
[00:14:22] Unknown:
No. I'm sure, it's that's very well I saw I saw an email. I wish if if I would have known we were gonna go down this route, I would have had it available for us. But I I saw I saw an email not too long ago, maybe, like, a week ago, where Texas is ranked like like the third strictest, DUI enforcement in the country. So, yeah, it it makes sense. It it's just it's terrible down here. It is absolutely terrible. So, so what cryptos are we looking at now? We haven't talked about much of that.
[00:14:55] Unknown:
Well, you know, one of the things that I did in these psychic development classes that I took is I printed out a couple different crypto CEOs, just pictures of them, and I brought them to my class to get feedback from other people. Okay. And let's see. We did Algorand, of course, Say. We did ICP. We did Ethereum, and we did Aerodrome Finance. So I've got all kinds of information. And it's so interesting because the information that I have, I kinda kept separately, and I kinda got feedback from other people, and it matched. And I'm like, okay. I know I'm on the right road here. You know, again, I'm gonna go back to ego.
When some of these crypto CEOs, they hit a certain level of success and notoriety, and they're in the public eye, and they're doing all kinds of interviews and giving speeches. You know, sometimes this stuff can really get to people's heads, and it changes the energy of them, and it changes the energy of their company a little bit because, you know, they're giving out that that certain kinda energy. Now an ego doesn't mean that you're not gonna be successful because I still see a lot of these people being very successful even if their ego is totally inflated. But there are two people two people that I really, really love and I wanna talk about.
And I know the first one is kinda obvious, Stacy Warden. I mean, best of the best when it comes to crypto CEOs. I'll say that. No ego whatsoever. Total genuine, head and heart is in the right place. She is on track for some serious, serious success with Algorand and personally. So, Algorand for me is still a huge, huge, huge buy. And I know I've we've talked about this a little bit, so I'm not, like, necessarily putting out any new information, but I do have some new information here. Another crypto CEO that I really like is Dominic Williams of ICP.
He's phenomenal. He puts passion and love into everything that he does, and he's going to be very, very, very successful. So ICP is a strong buy for me right now. And right now, I think it's in the 4 to $5 range, and it's kind of been stagnant for a few years, but we're entering we're gonna be entering into a whole new market coming up here very, very soon where we're gonna see a huge shift. Now we've had some groundwork laid legally where a bunch of different crypto bills have been passed. We've got different regulations in a in a positive way, not a negative way.
And we're also gonna see a lot of government funding, and we're also going to see a lot of, investment companies dumping billions of dollars into the crypto market here. And, you know, there there's something also to be said. I heard something about how they're gonna put the debt on the block chain. Mhmm. And that kinda made me a little bit excited too. Tether was talking about, buying up some of that. So I thought that was interesting. We're gonna see some big shifts coming up here very, very, very soon. And I know I've been talking about this for a while, and it just hasn't happened and hasn't happened and hasn't happened. A lot of this is stemming from Trump. Okay? Mhmm. And I can't say that one person regulates the whole market or is going to affect the market that much, but there's something about him and his contacts and his plans and this big shift where he's turning he's trying to turn everything into crypto, and that is going to be very, very positive for the entire market. It just hasn't totally been executed yet. The plan hasn't been fully executed yet. But we are right around the corner where that is going to happen very, very soon.
And that is going to
[00:18:31] Unknown:
it's gonna make everything go up. It's gonna be good. So what what do you think some of the pros and cons though of being on the blockchain for the national debt? Because that's that's a huge undertaking.
[00:18:40] Unknown:
It is. It is. And, you know, I'm not an economist, so I can't say I understand everything probably the way somebody that works in finance does. Right? But I I feel good about it. I really do. I feel good. I it might be a little bit of a drag at first, but I I feel that as we see the market caps rise, it's just it's gonna be good all around. And I do feel like there's gonna be something with Bitcoin that helps us pay off this debt too, where maybe they buy some Bitcoin and then it goes up in value, and we can use that to pay off some of this debt. I mean, he's gotta do something. You know, he inherited a mess. And Agree. You know, we were we had a great economy his first four years in office, and then it just tanked.
So some people will say that he created this debt, and I don't feel like that's the case. I feel like a lot of this was inherited. So Oh, absolutely. A businessman. You know? He he wants to get things going. And and part of the tariffs too, which I don't totally agree with all the tariffs, but I do feel there needed to be, some changes. He's a little bit drastic and aggressive with it, which can not be a good thing.
[00:19:43] Unknown:
But some of the tariff income too is gonna go into the blockchain, and that is very exciting to me because those tariffs are forced to be reckoned with for sure. Yeah. I'm still waiting for my, my my cut of the benefits of this. I remember he promised somewhere along the way. Yeah. I I love I listen. Don't get me wrong. I I I love what what the president's doing. I think he's doing a a fantastic job. Overall, if I was given a school grade rating, I would give him, like, an a minus on on everything. But, I do remember him saying that, you know, that we wish we should be getting some kind of, you know, check or something, you know, with all the benefits and and, we'd be getting these tariffs, and I'd yet to see that. So, that would be very nice. A few other things that he promised to that he had still hasn't come through on yet, but I know things take time. Can't fix it overnight. It took four years to wreck it. It's gonna take a few years to fix it. I get it. But,
[00:20:32] Unknown:
let's I I totally agree with you on that. I've been just a little bit disappointed with some things too, not moving as fast as, you know, we originally thought, but it is what it is. You know? He's got a lot on his plate. Like, I do not envy him. The amount of just crap that he deals with on a day to day basis is beyond anything that we can even imagine. So For sure.
[00:20:55] Unknown:
It's just one of those things we kinda have to be patient. I do think the financial markets are gonna start to move from here. Too. I I it like I said, you know, it it it took him four years to wreck it. It's gonna take a few years to fix it, and that's that's just the way it works. It's like, I guess the best analogy would be like a like a like a like a cruise ship out in the middle of the ocean. You know, you can't just hit the brakes, you know, and turn the thing around. You gotta it has to slow down gradually. And, it's kinda I think that's kinda where we are. But some of the things that I'm worried about as far as putting the the the, the national debt in the blockchain is, you know, the the debts what $33,000,000,000,000.
Right? That's huge. And from what I've been because after you and I kinda exchange some ideas on this, you know, blockchains like, like Bitcoin, Ethereum, you know, they already struggle with high volume. Right? So how I I don't I don't I'm I'm worried about those technical challenges that, you know, putting a $33,000,000,000,000 debt into the blockchain would would would bring about. That that's, like, that's one thing that I'm concerned about. Another thing is, like, security too. I mean, granted, you know, blockchains are secure, you know, but they're not immune to attacks either, you know. And any kind of a breach that took that takes place would have catastrophic economic consequences to that. So that's that's something else you catastrophic economic consequences to that. So that's that's something else you gotta consider.
[00:22:19] Unknown:
And what about cost? You know, and that's a good point. That's a very, very solid point, especially especially with Ethereum. Now they've had some upgrades where it's moving a little bit faster. Their fees have decreased significantly from where they were, let's say, two years ago. I mean, I remember sending, like, $60 worth of crypto to a wallet, and they were like, oh, we're gonna charge you a $100. I'm like, I'm not paying that. And now and now it's normal. Now it's, like, you know, less than a dollar or a few cents or whatever. So Ethereum's had some significant upgrades, but there is still more to be had. You know? Are they gonna is that gonna sustain when we're in the $30,000,000,000,000 mark for the total crypto market cap? I don't know. I guess we'll see. And but also, I think it also would have to have some kind of,
[00:23:04] Unknown:
like, a a massive upfront investment in infrastructure in order to to do this, because then you gotta do training, you gotta do a system integration, you know, with all the existing financial, systems that are in place, you know, and then you have the outdated stuff that the government itself uses, like treasury, like, they may not be able to easily integrate with Blockchain stuff. So it it might be it might it's gonna be a huge upfront cost, I think, in my opinion. I'm not again, I'm not
[00:23:37] Unknown:
I'm not a, I'm not a, a These these crypto companies, though, they have crazy amounts of money. So I wouldn't be too worried about them not having the resources to be able to make these upgrades. They're gonna be totally fine. You think? Oh, we'll see. You you never know. Mhmm.
[00:23:52] Unknown:
And then and then and then another issue for me that that is really big is centralization. That's a very big concern for me, because a a government managed blockchain, you know, they're gonna need central control over that. You know? And that, of course, you know, the whole point of blockchain, the whole point of cryptos were, you know, it's all decentralized. So Right. So a lot of that's gonna that's gonna change. And then, of course, you have, you know, if the government doesn't like something you're saying or you're thinking, they could shut you off.
You know? Right. And that's something else you gotta be taking into consideration. So I I don't I don't know. There's there's a lot of pros also. I mean, there's good stuff. There there's bad stuff. There's, you know, there's, you know, I I guess one of the pros would be transparency. Alright? Everything is out in the open, you know, at, the way the way blockchains from what I'm I've been reading is, blockchains public ledger ensures that all transactions related to national debt, like bond issues and, interest payments would be transparent. They would be traceable.
You know, then there's and, of course, you know, once I guess that there's fraud reduction at least, security on the crypto on on the on the on the blockchain is is is it's it's not it's it's infinitely better than I think what the government has itself. But again, the problem is public trust, public perception, accessibility, you have the global accessibility of the blockchain. So and there are positives, there are negatives, and it's something I it's not a necessarily a bad idea to do it, but I think we have to weigh in all these things first, and I I hope they they really take all this stuff into consideration. My biggest concern is is that centralized control over it. That's that's that's my big concern. Anything the government puts their hands into, they end up wrecking anyway.
So, you know, that's why I that's why I'm dead set. I'm not I'm not dead set against it. Let me let me rephrase that. I'm cautious about it. I I don't know if that's gonna work or not. But who am I? I am not a I'm not a, and it gets an economist.
[00:26:04] Unknown:
Think that there is definitely truth to what you're saying. Absolutely. I mean, anytime, you know, the government's involved in anything, it becomes a mess. Right? I I'll say that the centralized banks right now are nervous about Tether. They're because Tether's offering, higher APR returns and, like, just having your your money there versus a savings account. So a lot of their liquidity is gonna be put into the blockchain instead of into the centralized banks. And you know what? Good. Good. Good. I'm sick and tired of the banks controlling everything and thinking that they can do whatever and whatnot.
You know, some of these crypto I I I'll say this. I talk to a lot of people, and I do individual crypto reviews for their portfolio. Right? I've had so many people this month tell me that their account is frozen. Their exchange is frozen, and they can't get it unfroze. And I'm like, and they have a lot of money in these exchanges, and that's why I always encourage people, cold wallet storage. Do not leave it in any exchange. Get a ledger. Get an arculus. You know, get some cold wallet storage. Transfer it. And I know it's a little bit nerve wracking because that because then it's like, okay. Well, what if something happens? What if my house burns down? What if somebody breaks in? You know, you have to take those precautions too. So, it is a little bit risky in that sense as well, but there's always risk. I'd I'd rather risk that than, leave it up to an exchange to unfreeze my account just because they randomly decided to freeze it, and they just there's all this money in that they don't wanna pay out, and that happens.
So
[00:27:43] Unknown:
I don't know. It's it's a catch 22 with pretty much anything you do. Yeah. Big I know. Everything's a risk. You know? It it's but that's that's all that's the thing with investments. You know? It's it's a risk that you you have to be willing to take. So, that's that's why we that's why we still have our our our little ticker here that we put up there, you know, not financial advice, invest at your own risk. You know, we keep that thing going. For sure. So so, yeah. It's a it has a lot. There's a lot there, but, yeah, we'll see what happens. We'll see. We'll see how it goes. Now the last time we spoke, we were talking about the bull run. So so where are we at with the bull run?
[00:28:22] Unknown:
I'm a little bit disappointed. Not gonna lie. I expected the bull run to be here by now. I really did. Now we've seen some spikes up in the market, and maybe that was what I was picking up on intuitively, but I still see a big boom coming, like, big boom. I feel like there is something around Trump pulling the strings for the bull run, getting all the in all the major, investment companies to dump a bunch of money in all at the same time. So there's, like, a go button. Mhmm. Right? So, but it just keeps on getting delayed for this, for that, for this, for that. And I'm like, oh, come on. Just press the damn button already. Do you think some money into the market. Do you think,
[00:29:05] Unknown:
I'm not sure how much involvement there is with this, but do you think that this whole back and forth with the Fed, with, the adjustment of interest rates is slowing things down?
[00:29:16] Unknown:
Yes. Absolutely. Yes. I feel like there needed to be some framework laid out, like, where, crypto laws were passed, interest rates are down. Preferably, world peace would be great, but, you know, whatever that they're still working on that one. But we have we have what we need now, so it's just a matter of time. And, you know, I feel like there is a very deep sadness with the passing of Charlie Kirk, in the whole country, and, that really affected, the president as well. So but he's one of those he works when he grieves. Mhmm. You know? Like, he's he's not, like he'll be emotional privately. He will not be emotional publicly. He he wants to give that strong persona, and I feel like that really hit him as at at at the core. So I agree.
You know, he's he's he's dealing with that right now. And then you also have to revamp your own security when something like that happens, you know, and you gotta worry about the safety of your family even more so and beef this up and beef that up. I don't know why anybody is doing anything outside. That just baffles me. Nobody should be having any kind of political debates or any kind of political event outside. It needs to be inside where people go through metal detectors. I mean, these are basic things that should be done for everybody, any influencer as well. The thing that's difficult with that, though, is it's expensive.
You know? It's expensive to bring in these machines and to have the security team go through everything. You know? So but in my opinion, it's worth it. I mean, after what happened, I think we all learned a big lesson, and I think it's gonna inspire a lot of people to speak up. So I I I think so too.
[00:31:00] Unknown:
I know that, there were quite a few people that have been talking about, picking up the picking up the, the the trail where where Charlie Kirk left off with going out to the schools and doing these, these, open air debates. One of them one of them being Alex Jones. I heard him mention it on his show, last week that he's gonna be going out there and doing this. So so that's gonna be interesting, and I'm sure other people are gonna be getting involved as well.
[00:31:27] Unknown:
I I just, I, you know, I Well, he needs to worry about security.
[00:31:31] Unknown:
Yeah. He does. Sorry. I didn't mean to interrupt. He needs to worry about security, really and truly. He's a big target. Oh, huge. Absolutely. And, you know, he he acknowledged that himself, when he was talking about it. But, I guess the whole point of it is is that, you know, we're not you know, people are not gonna be, scared or or or terrorized. I think it's because it is a terrorist activity. People aren't gonna be terrorized and and and and pushed into a and their back up against the wall and and and discontinued these, these dialogues, because when you do that, when you run away from it, then you're you're you're basically surrendering to it. So, you have if you if you're gonna do it, you gotta do it smart. You gotta make sure all the you gotta make sure you have the the proper security. You gotta vet your security, so so carefully and so detailed. You you you just can't, you know, randomly, you know, hire people to come protect you for these things. I I know that's not how it works. I've I've been on the inside of that stuff. I know how it does. But, you know, you really have to be extra careful right now because, you know, these these these radical groups are infiltrated into so many police departments, and so many private security firms, and so many in so many different ways that you you really do have to be careful, and that's the whole point of of terrorist activities. That they they they keep you unsettled, and they keep you, you know, constantly looking over your shoulder.
But you can't you can't let them win in that way. You have to you just you have to continue on with life. You have to continue on doing the things you do, and you you have to keep on working, especially for what, what Charlie Kirk did. You know, he did he did some amazing things. I'm not gonna say that I watched everything that he did. You know, I I followed him. You know, I I I would check out a show every now and then. I would anytime I would see a Charlie Kirk clip, I would I would check it out. I like the things that he had to say, and I I think he was doing a fantastic job in in bringing dialogue to the seat of of of of the liberal heart, you know, the the the college universe, the college campuses, the university campuses.
And one of the things that he did that was so important was that he got people to think critically. You know, you can you can come up there and you you can you know, everybody was welcome to come to the microphone, but he would challenge you to think critically. You know, why are you why do you believe what you believe? You know, explain it, define it. And he wasn't doing it in a way to demean anybody, he was just trying to get people to think. Think about their positions. Right. And, you know, and and to keep that dialogue going and keep talking. And that he's he gave he gave the left exactly what they always cry about in moments like this. So we have to keep dialogue. We have to talk. We have to keep talking about things. We have to talk things out. Talk talk talk talk talk. Well, he did that.
Mhmm. He went there. He brought it to them, and he got shot for it. Yeah. You know, and, to me that just shows that that the the the the the far left isn't interested in the dialogue. They're not really interested. They may say they are, but they're not. Yeah. Yeah. And and it it's it's a very very sad sad state. I'll be honest with, you know, I'd like I've never met Charlie Kirk. I'd I'd never spoke to him. I don't know anything other than what I've seen, you know, on his show, and and and for people have talked about in his life, and the clips and stuff that I've seen. But that day, I I I it was like a gut punch, you know. I like I didn't even wanna come on my show that that night and do it, because I didn't wanna talk about it. You know?
Yeah. So it was it was hard. It was very very hard. And then you you you you put that event right next to 09:11, the memorial for that, you know, it's it's it was it was just it was a really really hard week. Really hard week. Yeah. And a lot of people, you know, that this this affected a lot of people. A lot of people felt the same way.
[00:35:30] Unknown:
Yeah. For sure. For sure. I can't say that I agreed with everything Charlie did and said. But And you should I respected him for for doing what he did, nonviolent. Let's talk it out. Let's debate it. We can have a difference of opinion. Thank you. Have a nice day. You know? And and I you know, what really got me with that was I I thought about his wife and his kids. Who were there? I was so upset for them, for that loss that they're experiencing in such a public way. And I I know ultimately they're gonna be okay. They have a lot of support around them. You know, they had a huge fundraiser.
They're gonna be totally fine. I do know that, but it's just gut wrenching for me thinking about the kids. You know? And I do think down the road, she will remarry. It's not gonna be right away, but she's gonna be a force. She is gonna be allowed once she's in a little bit better of a place,
[00:36:28] Unknown:
when she's done grieving. So my heart really goes out to that family for sure. Yeah. He, as a matter of fact, was I think it was yesterday or so that, that she was appointed as the, to take over his position at Turning Point USA. So now she's running the whole thing. Yeah. It it's it was terrible, and and from what I understand, his his his family was there. They were they were they were behind the tent when when that happened. So Yeah. You know, you have no idea how this is gonna affect the kids growing up. Mhmm. It's not like it's not like they're gonna be shielded from it. They'll be able to see it over and over and over again. You know, they'll be able to access the videos and files and and whatnot over time. And, you know, it's things that that is gonna be with them for a very, very long time. You know? And, it's a horrible, horrible thing, and, you know, it shouldn't happen. It shouldn't happen at all, right or left. I mean, but the interesting thing is though is that you never see this happen on the right. You know, this this is it's always the far left. It's always the left.
[00:37:26] Unknown:
Mhmm. You know? And Well, wait a minute. Hold on. Hold on. There was a Democrat that was murdered in Minnesota. Right? And then there was another one that was shot, like, nine times but lived. Correct? And that happened this summer. That happened in June, I believe. I forgot who it was. But But but the but they weren't the the the difference with that is,
[00:37:45] Unknown:
is that they they weren't people that were known to everybody. And and and and what I and I'm not I'm not trying to sound cold about it, but, you know, they they didn't have a public name. They weren't on the public stage. They weren't in the public eye. They weren't targets of people that were, that were outright saying that they were going to kill them, and and they wanted them silenced and all that stuff. Horrible. Absolutely. I mean, it's it's terrible. Any loss of life in that in that in that way is absolutely disgusting. It's in should never happen. But, but those people, you know, they they weren't a public figure. They weren't people that neither none of us knew about until it happened. You Charlie Kirk, on the other hand, very public figure.
Yeah. And out there in the open. So it's it's it's, it's a horrible thing just no matter what, no matter how you look at it. And it it just should never happen. It it honestly should never happen. It was, like, again, a gut punch. It really, really, truly was. Yeah. And, I don't know. We'll we'll but, you know, it's this is a defining moment, though. You know? What direction are we gonna go? I mean, you look you I don't know if you you're up on it. I was trying to find the clip, but I I just couldn't find it. Maybe let me let me look while we're talking here. Oh, by the way, guess guess guess who, sent me a private message Oh. On x.
Stacy dot algo. Stacey w. Really? Yeah. But Did she really? Well, according to this, I don't know if that's really her or not, but, sent a message. Great connecting. How was the weekend?
[00:39:26] Unknown:
Oh, it's just like a general it could have been a copycat then. Yeah. That's what I'm saying. I don't know if that's really her. But, Would after this show, text me a screenshot of it. Oh, for sure.
[00:39:37] Unknown:
For sure. Let me see. I wanna see if I did I bookmark it? Let me see. No. I guess I didn't. But the you know, there there was this whole episode that took place in, in in in Congress the other day. Rashida Tlaib, and, Byron Donald got into it. A very heated exchange, because, of course, Rashida Tlaib is, you know, on the far left. And, here she is, and she's over here calling Republicans again fascists and Nazis and all that stuff. And and, it it blew up into this whole big argument that took place in in this public forum in in congress. And, then you have also, when Mike Johnson, wanted to have the chamber come to a moment just a a prayer for Charlie Kirk and his family, how the the the left reacted to that by by shouting and screaming, no. No. No. No. No. And not and it just causing, you know, just all kinds of chaos in the people's house.
And, you know, I I just I think at this point, this is a very, very interesting time to see how this country is going to move forward from this. This is a very this this issue that this what what happened with Charlie Kirk is it is I think a defining moment. You know? Mhmm. Which how is this country going to move forward from this? You have two completely diametrically opposed points of view. And I I, you know, and just seeing how our elected officials are are handling this and reacting to it, you know, it's it's it's it's very disturbing to see to see how it's how they're all acting about this. And but but the one thing I will say though is if you look around and, you you look at, when, when when George Floyd died. Right? What happened?
The left went apoplectic. They went they burned down cities. They burned looted stores, trashed everything. What happened when Charlie Kirk died? None of that. Nothing. Yeah. It it was all prayer vigils, prayer meetings,
[00:41:57] Unknown:
quiet That's a good point. Contemplative. Yeah.
[00:42:00] Unknown:
So Yeah. You have two two diet two two extreme views on display right there.
[00:42:08] Unknown:
Mhmm. Which direction is this country going? Well, and there's also groups though that were paid to riot. I mean, we have to call that what it is. Oh, yeah. That was ridiculous. And then you get a bunch of, like, lower intelligence level people joining them. It just becomes this big problem. Yeah. They're agitators and the the terrible. Yeah. The the hired agitators, they come in. They start everything off and get everybody else worked up around it, and then they just kinda, like, back away from it and then let the rest of it go. You know? It Well, and there's there's more awareness of it now. And Yeah. You know, Trump declared Antifa a terrorist organization
[00:42:43] Unknown:
recently. Yeah. So I thought that was No. No. He well, he was he's going to. He still hasn't done it. Oh. He still has he's it has to be he he has to do like a I guess an executive order to do it. Still hasn't done that. He's talked about it. He said he's going to, but it still hasn't happened yet. I'm not saying it's not. I believe that he is. He's gonna do it. He just just hasn't done it yet. Mhmm. So it's very very interesting time. You see that? And that's more and more why I I believe in Texas independence. This flag behind me here. You know? Yeah. Yeah. We'll see what happens. We shall see. So, I wanna get back to the crypto stuff, though, quickly because, I I I like XRP a lot, and, you know, you introduced me to that. So, where do you think XRP is gonna go with this bull run?
[00:43:29] Unknown:
$5 easy. Yeah. We're we're teetering on the $3 point, and I wanna say last month, we were in the low twos. So it's gone up a little bit over the course of the last month. I think that there's some anticipation that XRP is gonna start moving big time. So, a lot of retail investors stocked up on it with with this anticipation. And five dollars is right around the corner, and it's just gonna continue to climb. Now listen. After the bull run, we're gonna have a big correction here. I think that some cryptos are gonna lose up to 50% Wow. Of their value, but not all of them. Not all of them. So, some might do 40%. Some might do 30. Some might be corrected, you know, 20%. What it it's gonna be a big correction, though. It's gonna scare people. And that's why I really wanna get that message out, and that's something that I've been stressing in my Patreon and my TikTok. Get ready for that dip after the bull run. The bull run's not gonna last long. You know, maybe it's a day, maybe it's a week. I mean, we are not talking multiple weeks here. We're not talking multiple months.
It's gonna we're gonna have a big spike up, and then, bam, it's gonna crash. So if you make moves at the right time, you can make a lot of money. But We like that. You have to make those moves. You know?
[00:44:42] Unknown:
No. Absolutely. Absolutely. And and speaking of of your your TikTok, I saw a video that you posted on on your TikTok about buying fractional real estate on Lofty using the Algorand network. What's that all about?
[00:44:57] Unknown:
So that was something I kinda just learned about this week, and I did a little bit more research. Now I have been so incredibly busy. I can't even tell you how busy I am, Joe. Like, I from the time I wake up to the time I go to bed, like, I am doing something when it comes to work, whether it's giving a reading, whether it's, doing like, reviewing somebody's portfolio or or making some content for TikTok or Patreon or whatnot. So I'm just so busy. I haven't had a chance to research research things as much as I've wanted to, but I did get a little bit of an opportunity to do more research on lofty. So this is how it works. Now this is all built on the Algorand network, which is what caught my attention. Mhmm. Basically, what you can do is you buy tokens for different real estate properties. Okay?
And, you get daily rental income on every token that you own. And tokens are anywhere from, like, 30 to $50. Right? They're not expensive. And you can connect your crypto wallet. You can buy it with crypto, or you can use a credit or a debit card, whatever. And you can just leave it in your account, and it's all done on the blockchain. All your assets are held on the blockchain. So you'll have, like, a they set you up with a crypto wallet where you have your own private keys and stuff like that. So, I did not put a lot of money into this, though. I did a little bit more research, and I see that there are a lot of people that invest money in this, and they it doesn't pay off the way that you would expect it to.
I think they're overselling the property slightly, and and the people running this are taking a little bit too much for themselves. Mhmm. And that's a shame because the concept of this is gold. If somebody could do this in a more honest batch and not take too much money out of it, and run it properly and offer a fair deal to people, I think this could be something that makes a crazy amount of money. So, anyways, I I'm still learning about it. There are some properties that pay off better than others. I bought a little bit into it, not a whole lot. I was just gonna put a few $100 into it just to get started. I'm like, you know what? Something told me not to. So I only threw, like, $50 into it. And so far, I'm like, I don't know. We'll see what happens. I it's not one something that I would recommend people throw thousands of dollars into, but there are certain properties that you can buy on this that have a higher yield.
So I kinda wanna see how this goes over time. Now here's the thing. When when we talk about investments, you want your investments. Even though you wanna stay diversified, you still want the most return for your money. Right? So Of course. Yeah. You're gonna get that way better just being a retail crypto investor than you will, being in lofty. But it is something there is something to be said about saying diversified again. So, I like it for for a small investment, not a large investment right now. I I'm still on the fence of it.
So
[00:47:57] Unknown:
So I I've never heard of this until until you mentioned it to me, and, and I saw your video. I I didn't know what fractional real estate is.
[00:48:07] Unknown:
So, basically, what they do is they buy a property, like a rental property. They fix it up and they rent it out. And you can buy a fraction of that real estate. So let's say a property cost $200,000. Let's say you wanna buy a condo or something like that and you wanna rent it out. So everybody can pitch in and own a little part of that 200,000 property, small amounts, and then you get a little bit of that rental income. So and you also get the appreciation of the real estate. And you see, here's the thing. Like, the real estate right now is so inflated. So that's a whole another thing. Like, I wouldn't be looking to purchase properties right now. That and maybe that's more of my hesitation with lofty right now than anything. Okay. Instead of, like, you know, throwing thousands of dollars into it is the real estate market's inflated. So I do feel like the the cost of of real estate is gonna start to come down a little bit, especially with interest rates coming down. And I do think there's gonna be another cut coming. This point 025%, I mean, that's shortcomings, like, in my opinion.
They Jerome Powell could've could've done better, but we all know, you know, he he's a disappointment. Honestly, I'm very disappointed in him. Shame on him. Shame on him. And that that's that's that's another thing that that,
[00:49:24] Unknown:
oh, it just irritates me, is that, you know, you have the president of The United States can appoint people to the Federal Reserve, which, by the way, doesn't even exist shouldn't even exist. You know? I agree. There I it this this was a scheme and a plan that was set up by Wilson in the in the '19 in the early nineteen hundreds, and it it's just been a disaster. Every ever since the Federal Reserve was established, it's just wrecked the economy over and over and over again. So, and I just find it very funny that the president of The United States can appoint people to the Federal Reserve, but he can't remove them once they've been appointed to the Federal Reserve, without having to go through all these legal challenges and having to go to the Supreme Court to have the Supreme Court uphold the the the removal of somebody one of these Federal Reserve governors.
So I I just it will just
[00:50:22] Unknown:
Yeah. The Federal Reserve needs to go. Sound normal. Yeah. They do. They really do. Well, Ron Paul, years ago, was his whole thing was and the Fed. Mhmm. You know, he was he's been speaking for a long time. You know? Like, that is fraudulent organization, and
[00:50:38] Unknown:
it kinda makes you think. Yeah. For sure. I mean these unelected peep unelected people basically controlling the economy of The United States.
[00:50:47] Unknown:
Right. It's scary. With no accountability. It's scary. Mhmm. It's ridiculous. If it's one thing I can say about president Trump is I do feel that he is going to get the financial markets going. It's it's gonna be one of those things where you know that saying she's not pretty, but she'll do? Yeah. I've I've heard It's gonna be like it's gonna be like that. It's gonna be that's how I describe how the financial markets are gonna go. She ain't pretty, but she'll do. Like, it's gonna go up, and then it's gonna go down. But then it's gonna start sustaining higher. So he's gonna get the financial markets going. And it's it's not a pretty process, but it's gonna work. It's gonna work long term. It's and it's gonna take time. But
[00:51:24] Unknown:
yeah. No. I I, yeah, I I totally understand. I I agree. And I I think it it's just getting over these hurdles, man. Like, and like I said back in the beginning of the show, you know, it took four years to wreck. It's gonna take a few years to fix it. It's just it's it's a slow process. It just have to let it work its let it work its way through. I think we are gonna start to see the benefits of all the tariffs. I think, you know, don't forget, you know, the the country built itself on tariffs. There was no income tax up until the 1913 or so.
So the idea that the idea that tariffs aren't beneficial is is bullshit, to be honest with you. I think they are. And, we've been tariffed by countries all over the world for many, many, many, many years. It's not a new thing. This is not something that they pulled out of a hat. This is an old way of doing business, and it it works. It's effective. Yeah. And, you just gotta give it the chance to do it. And, but I do I would like to see my my cut, you know. I know. Right. I'm still harping on that. I know. I know.
[00:52:29] Unknown:
You know, there's there's pros and cons to everything. And I can tell you, I know people that work in the logistics industry that hate the tariffs, and it has just caused them so many problems. It's not perfect. No. Nothing's perfect. It really isn't. It really isn't. But I I do think we need to kinda start seeing some benefits. If this is what's happening, it's like, where's the benefits?
[00:52:51] Unknown:
I agree. Yeah. I don't know. I don't know. It's a good question. There there it yeah. Let's let's get moving on it. Alright. So before before I let you go, believe it or not, we do have a question that was submitted by email, from one from one of our listeners. When will cryptos become more user user friendly? It's like learning to speak Swahili.
[00:53:12] Unknown:
Yeah. So here's the reality of the situation. We're all in the beginning stages of this, so we're all learning. I feel like over the course of the next year, it's gonna be a little bit easier. I think the thing that people really struggle with is moving their crypto to cold wallet storage. So my advice is, like, if you have a ledger, if you have an Arculus, those are the two that I really like the most. Go into YouTube and type in specifically what you're looking for. How to move Algorand from Coinbase into a ledger cold wallet storage, and watch the tutorials.
And it's really a matter of just copying one address to the other. But that is where people are really struggling. And I recommend that when people do that, you start with a very small amount of crypto until you move larger amounts. Right? You wanna make sure that you're doing it correctly because I can't tell you how many people I talk to. They're like, I lost my crypto because I did this wrong, and I'm like so I actually made contact with, a tech guy that I think I'm gonna be working with, that I'm gonna recommend to people where he can help walk them through that process, because I just don't have the time to do it, Nor nor do I really have the desire. I'd I'd rather talk to you about where you should put it rather than, like, how to get it into a wallet, because that's very time consuming.
[00:54:26] Unknown:
Yeah. I understand that. Alright. Well, I hope hopefully, that was a that was a satisfactory answer to our to our our our friend here. So, anything else for us before we, before we wrap this baby up?
[00:54:37] Unknown:
Anything else? Okay. This is what I recommend you buy right now. And this is not financial advice. This is my psychic prediction and my personal opinion. Right now, I am buying Algorand. Of course, I'm always buying Algorand. It's not gonna be the 20¢ range forever. I'll tell you that. I mean, this it's we're gonna look back at Algorand in a year and be like, man, I wish I bought more Algorand. Even if you have a lot right now, you're still gonna wish you had more. Nobody can have enough Algorand in their wallet. Just saying. Okay. I would be buying ICP, especially after doing the analysis on the CEO there at, like, his intentions and good karma. I'm telling you it matters. Okay?
I would be buying ICP. I'd be buying a crypto called Morpho, m 0 r p h 0. This is a lending crypto. I just did a review on this on my Patreon, and I somebody asked me to review it, and I was like, oh, this one's a gem. I like more of that. I saw I saw that one pop up on on,
[00:55:34] Unknown:
I use Brave as my browser. And, actually, an article about that popped up on the Brave browser. And I I I have it bookmarked. I haven't read it yet, but that caught my attention. So I'm glad you mentioned it. Yeah.
[00:55:47] Unknown:
Yeah. Well, crypto lending is gonna be huge because we're gonna be getting more off of the centralized banking system, and we're gonna be more decentralized. So, Moonwell is also a lending crypto. I like Moonwell. Let's see. I like Pythe, p y t h, and, of course, SEI, s e I. Those are the cryptos that I'm personally buying right now. And those are the ones that I recommend people stack up on now. Like so we're it's the crypto market's starting to go up a little bit, but we're gonna have a huge, huge bull run coming up here soon. I think it could happen in as little as a week, maybe two weeks even.
I keep on saying that, and I'm so I'm kinda, like, kinda tired of putting out predictions for the bull run because it's like, maybe I should just stop talking about it. I don't know. But we are right on the brink of it. So, just hang in there. Keep buying crypto, and, things are gonna get really good soon. When they're good, it's gonna be so worth the wait. I mean, people are gonna make tens of thousands of dollars depending on how much money you have in the market. I mean, you could easily make 10 times your money in overnight. I mean, it's gonna be crazy money. So Alright.
[00:56:51] Unknown:
Alright. Life changing money. I've I've made my list. I'll be checking it twice, and I'll make sure that I get on some of this stuff here too and throw some some more money into the crypto markets. I've been I've I've been loving Algorand, to be honest with you, ever since you mentioned it. XRP too, I've I've I've got quite a bit now in both of those, and, I I can't say I'm unhappy. I mean, obviously, I give your ups and downs if it happens. That's the way it is. That's investing. But overall, I I I can't say I'm unhappy with it. I like I like what I'm seeing with it, and I I the more good things that I hear, you know, the happier I get. And especially when when when when Stacy private messages me on on x.
[00:57:33] Unknown:
Yeah. The Stacy that's not really Stacy. Correct. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. What what are these days what are these days I'm gonna track her down, and I'm gonna make her be friends with me?
[00:57:44] Unknown:
That's that's that's gonna be my goal. No. Seriously. I wanna be friends with her at some point. Well, she's my friend apparently. So Yeah. I'll I'll I'll introduce you guys. You know? Awesome. Thanks, Joe. I appreciate it. You know? Because it's that vast that vast network that I work within. You know? It's just one of those things. Yeah. And I I must I have, like, like, like, 30 Elon Musks following me.
[00:58:09] Unknown:
Oh, I'm sure. You know? It's crazy. There's a lot of bots on x. I actually lost, like, a thousand or 2,000 followers on x because they all their accounts just got wiped. I'm like, how many bots were following me? That's so weird. Yeah. You know what other platforms
[00:58:22] Unknown:
is loaded with bots is, Gettr. Have you ever tried Gettr? G e t t r? Yeah. It's the one that Bannon's really involved with, Steve Bannon. And, so I had an account there for the for the longest time. I just hardly ever used it. And, so I I I I I don't wanna say I reactivated it. I just finally logged back into it. And I had, like, so many followers, like like, waiting, and I was like, alright. Let me get something going through. And I noticed the pattern, you know, they they all start with the letter, and then have the string of numbers after that, and then a letter and a string of numbers after that. And, you know, it's all bots. It's all bots. There's, like, very little interaction with anybody, like, regular people. It's all bots.
And I think that's the big problem here with a lot of the the social media stuff is that it's just overloaded with with this this automation stuff is just ridiculous, and and it makes it makes you not even wanna waste your time doing it because it's just I don't wanna interact with a with a bot. I wanna interact with people. You know, I want people to follow me. I don't want, you know, It does me no good to have a thousand bots following me. You know? It really doesn't. Yeah. So It's pointless. Yeah. Exactly. So what's the point? Alright. So, Marissa Lee, where can we find you and, and and follow you and get a hold of all your stuff?
[00:59:37] Unknown:
Well, I put all my crypto predictions on Patreon. So patreon.com/cryptopsychic. And then I also my website is sacredtarotcardreadings.com.
[00:59:46] Unknown:
And all my socials are on there as well. Okay. Yeah. I had actually, I needed your Patreon too because I don't have it for the show notes, so thank you. So I'll make sure I add that to it as well. Alright. Well, Marcely, we go we're going to, close out the show here. So I got my little spiel I gotta go through. I don't know if you wanna stick around for all that, but it's another another five or ten minutes. Alright. Yeah. Why don't you why don't you call me, after We'll do it. You're done with that. You bet. Absolutely. Okay. Take care, Joe. Thank you so much. No. Thank you. I appreciate it. And I'll talk to you, in a little bit. Alright. Marissa Lee folks. Marissa Lee with your, our resident crypto psychic.
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Cold open and show kickoff from Eagle Pass
Power outage hiccup and late start explained
Housekeeping: website, contact, and value-for-value support
Transition to crypto episode; guest Marissa Lee joins
Fixing the echo: tech troubleshooting on air
September catch‑up: work chaos, travel, and classes
Marissa’s mentor and the ego problem among crypto CEOs
Jersey vs. New York banter and Texas traffic woes
DUIs in Texas and strict enforcement
Psychic reads on crypto CEOs: Algorand and ICP standouts
Policy tailwinds: regulation, funding, and “debt on blockchain”
Pros and cons of putting national debt on-chain
Throughput, security, costs, and centralization risks
Exchanges freezing accounts and cold storage advice
Bull run timing: delays, the ‘go button,’ and the Fed
National mood after Charlie Kirk’s death and security talk
Free speech, dialogue, and differing reactions to tragedy
Congressional tensions and a defining national moment
XRP outlook and warning about post‑run corrections
Fractional real estate via Lofty on Algorand—promise and pitfalls
Real estate inflation and interest rates; Powell and the Fed
Tariffs, the Fed skepticism, and market path forward
Listener Q&A: When will crypto get user‑friendly?
Marissa’s current buys and near‑term bull run prediction
Social media bots, scams, and platform gripes
Where to find Marissa online
Show close, shout‑outs, and support tiers
Final sign‑off: independence, keep talking, good night