In this episode of The Joe Rooz Show, Joe kicks off the show with some housekeeping announcements, including upcoming weekend shows and a call for listener feedback through their website. He introduces the song "The Loop" by The Angellics, whose guitarist and producer, Peter Gunn, is the guest for the evening. Joe discusses the importance of listener support for the value-for-value show model and shares a brief mention of their sponsor, Ezra Healing, emphasizing a shift towards patient-centric health care.
Joe welcomes Peter Gunn, a US Air Force veteran, bodybuilder, and lead guitarist for The Angellics. They delve into Peter's eclectic journey, including his near-death experience at age seven, which shaped his mission to serve humanity. Peter shares insights into his creative endeavors, including his epic poetry series "The Amazons" and the graphic novel series "Sigma Squad." The conversation touches on themes of spirituality, the paranormal, and the cultural impact of metaphysics. Peter also discusses the band's upcoming album and the influence of 80s rock on their music. The episode concludes with Joe encouraging listeners to support the show and stay connected through various platforms.
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(00:06:53) Introduction and Housekeeping
(00:13:43) Interview with Peter Gunn
(00:36:36) The Amazons and Epic Poetry
(00:47:37) The Angelics and Musical Journey
(01:04:05) Metaphysics and Consciousness
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Yeah. I told myself I said I quit a thousand times, but comforted and in the crime. I know the cost. I feel the way, but something pulls me back to I built the cage and called it me. Locked the door then lost the key. I say I'm better, maybe I am. But when I fall, I fall like that. Alright. Hey, folks. This is Joe Roos. It is nineteen hundred hours, Friday, 08/08/2025, and we are transmitting to you live tonight from the Asylum Studios, broadcasting from the pimple on the backside of Texas, the beautiful broadcasting from the pimple on the backside of Texas, the beautiful city of Eagle Pass, and doing the very best we can to bring you the best quality talk radio we could muster without all the bluster.
Welcome to the Joe Root Show. Alright folks. Guess what? It is Friday. Finally. We made it. Another week in the books, my friends. Another week, and we didn't kill anybody. That's always a good thing, right? It sure is. It's always a good thing not to kill somebody. Oh, man. What a week. And I hope you guys are ready for the weekend. Don't forget that this weekend we have our, Saturday spotlight show tomorrow at 3PM and then Sunday we have our Sunday bible study show at six. So don't forget to check all of that stuff out and, in case you were wondering if you were connected when we first started the stream, that song that you heard was a song called The Loop and the band that was playing that was the Angelics.
And, we have, who's waiting for us, we're gonna get through some of the housekeeping stuff first, but he's waiting for us already in the in the waiting room, The producer and, if I'm not mistaken, the guitarist for that band, the Angelics. So, so he's waiting for us and we'll get to him in just a minute. Let's do some of the usual housekeeping stuff that we normally do. Something seems awfully dark in here tonight, right? That's kind of strange. Well, everything's on, but okay. Well, we'll make it work. At any rate, some of the housekeeping stuff, folks, don't forget to head over to our website, joeroos.com.
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Ezra healing dot com. And when you get over there, make sure you let them know that, Joe Roux sent you, that you heard it here on the Joe Roux show. Alright. So, we want you to tell them that. This way they know that their money is being well spent. Right? Okay. It always works. It always works out, good that way. Alright. Well, folks, let's see. What else we got here? Oh, yeah. Before we get into that, let me just, pull up something here on on the old device. So, if you remember on Wednesday, right? Wednesday because we didn't do a show yesterday. But on Wednesday, we had our our, resident crypto psychic join us for the show for the first hour. And, we were talking about a number of different things. And one of the things we're talking about was this, meme coin that was coming out, or or is out and is, building some traction here. It's called Gona, g 0 n n a.
And, her advice to you was buy some. Buy some. Don't spend a fortune on it. Don't spend like a like thousands of dollars, you know, spend $50,100 bucks on it. You know, this way, you know, it's a meme coin and if it if it crashes, at least, you know, you didn't lose anything. I think it's of significance. Let's put it that way. So I made a I made a couple of purchase I made a purchase of it and, today, right before the show, I got a little message here from, gonna dot algo or gonna algo at, on x. And, they were very generous and sent us over a, a gift of, of some of these Ghana coins. So we appreciate that. Thank you so very much for it. Make sure you head over to, Twitter or x and look up, Ghana Algo on X and, say hello. Let them know we sent you over there and, and and make some make a purchase. Buy some of it.
We have a feeling and our crypto, our resident crypto psychic feels that we're going to be able to make a few, few bucks on this on this coin. So check it out. Well worth it. Well, well worth it. Alright. Let me just fix this here. Now, I think, I got my kids watching the show in the other room there. I think the TV is too loud. So I can hear it. And, of course, I'm futzing with stuff and I shouldn't be doing that right now. I know. But, you know, it's Friday. It's Friday. Screw it. Just leave it right here. Alright. Now, he has been patiently waiting for us in the, in our in our little waiting room. So, what I would like to do is, introduce to you Peter Gunn.
Tonight, Peter Gunn, he's a US Air Force veteran with twenty years of honorable service, an avid body builder, lead guitarist for the up and coming band The Angelics, like I said earlier, a coffee connoisseur, which already, he's one of my favorite people. He's a poet, and he's dedicated to reviving epic poetry and literary craftsmanship. Peter's life took a profound turn at the age of seven after a near death experience that shaped his mission to serve humanity. He's the creative force behind the Amazons series, addressing the feminine in the hero's journey and the Sigma Squad graphic novel series, inspired by the ancient gnostic texts.
A true renaissance man, Peter's here to share his eclectic journey and bold ideas with us. Peter, welcome to the show. How you doing, my friend? Well, I think you gotta turn your mic on, bud. Nothing? Let me see. See, these are the joys of doing a live show. I don't think it's your headphones, I think it's your mic. Still nothing? You can hear me though? Rumble. Rumble. Rumble. Rumble. What are we gonna do with you, rumble? Let's see. Let me, let me try a refresh. Anything now? I don't hear you. My goodness. Let me see. What was this? Alright. Try it now.
See, we should've did we should've did a mic check before the show started. Alright. Let me see. Let me see what I could do here. What else can I do? What else can I do? This, that, that's working. That's working. That is working. Yeah, everything's everything's clear on my end here. Tell you what, let me let me do this. Give me one second. If we, if we get disconnected here, we'll just restart the stream. Okay, so give me a second. I think I hear you. Let me just check. Let me turn the camera on. Here we go. And there we go.
Alright. Peter, can you hear me now? I can hear you. Oh, beautiful. I got you now. We're good. Okay. Great. Okay. Great. Alright. Not sure what that problem was but, a little restart. Never hurt anybody.
[00:18:11] Unknown:
So We caught a love to happen at Air Force. It's just a hard reset.
[00:18:17] Unknown:
There you go. Perfect. Alright. Let me just fix my windows here and we're good to go. Alrighty. So, I owe you, I owe you six minutes.
[00:18:29] Unknown:
We're good.
[00:18:30] Unknown:
We're good. Well, Peter, welcome to the show. It's great to have you here and, sorry about the little technical thing there. I don't know, Rumble's been giving me a problem lately. I have I have, like, several open tickets with them. I'm not sure exactly what the deal is, but, but we're glad you're here with us. I'm glad you stuck with us. Thank you so much for it. So, that the song that I played at the at the opening of the show, as I call it a warm up, called The Loop. Great song. Really, really enjoyed that song. Give it tell tell me a little something about it. Where did it come from?
[00:19:01] Unknown:
Well, I mean, all of us see it, but we don't really see it per se. You have, people in your life or, people around you, maybe friends, family, that are stuck in a loop. So whether they're trying to quit cigarettes, they keep going back, whether it's alcoholism or and one of my favorites because it's it's sort of funny to see. You know, I don't wanna make fun of, anyone, but you see young girls pick the same bad guys over and over and over and then expecting a different result. Yeah. You know? True. But that that's what it's about. People that that, have that sort of thing going on in their lives, and they might not necessarily realize it.
And then, you know, maybe help, bring clarity to them.
[00:19:44] Unknown:
Well, it's a great song, man. I I love it. And and you sent me a bunch of tracks, and I'll I'll be honest with you. I have Yeah. Several of them loaded up here in my mixing board. I was playing around with them while I was getting the studio set up. So I had I had some background music going to it. It's it's really, really good stuff, man. I'm I'm really glad that you shared it with me too. Now, you played you played lead on these?
[00:20:05] Unknown:
I played the guitar. And there are some songs that are gonna be on the album that I am singing as well. Awesome. When's the album coming out? Well, we're hoping,
[00:20:14] Unknown:
knock on wood, September 1. Oh, outstanding. Outstanding. Gotta let gotta let me know. This way, I can get it. So looking forward to it, my friend. Looking forward to it. Alright. So let me ask you this. So we always start off every show, every time we have a guest on the show with with a couple of warm up questions, some softballs just to kinda loosen up everything. So what is something that most people don't know about you but should?
[00:20:35] Unknown:
Well, I had NDE, and I'm a NDE survivor when I was a child. So,
[00:20:41] Unknown:
I had died basically and come back. And it changed my life forever. Right. And I know we're gonna get to that a little bit. I have a I have a section on of the questions that I wanna ask you about, specifically about the NDEs. I find them fascinating to be honest with you. The just the the the variation that people the things that people experience in these things are there are a lot of lot of similarities, but there are also some pretty extreme differences as well. So it's it's very it's a very interesting subject. I'm fascinated by it. Alright. So then, what's your, what's your go to beverage to unwind at the end of the day? Now, I know you work out. You're you're a you're a bodybuilder, so I'm sure it's nothing nothing too bad for you. I stick to straight water. I I drink nothing but straight water. Yeah.
[00:21:22] Unknown:
Just water, No coffee, tea. I'm a very bored person. I mean, I drink coffee. Yes. I'll drink coffee and tea. But other than that, I'm a very bored person in that way. Yeah. Have you ever tried methylene blue? I've been wanting to. I've seen,
[00:21:39] Unknown:
other people taking it and and, you know, it's it's sparked my curiosity. Oh, it's great. I love it. Actually, I have a if you're interested, I have a affiliate link with the alexjonesstore.com/joe. And, 10% of your purchase comes right back here to the show. So, I really appreciate that. Oh, yeah. I'm gonna have to check it out. Definitely. Yeah. No. It's great stuff. Yeah. I've been I've been on it now for this is my fourth month on it and, it affects everybody a little bit different. I know a guy, that takes it before a workout, coincidentally.
And, used about thirty minutes before that and he says, it really helps with the intensity of his workout. So, that might be something you benefit from. But everybody's a little bit different. But, one of the warnings that I always give everybody before, you know, we go any further with it is if you are taking anything like antidepressants, SSRIs, anything like that, do not take this. Do not drink this stuff. It there there's a contraindication with it and it will mess you up. You will get sick. So, check with your doctor first before you do it. That's my advice. That's my warning.
[00:22:38] Unknown:
My disclaimer You definitely have to get that disclaimer in there. Get it in there. Yes. Absolutely.
[00:22:42] Unknown:
So, but for me, what it does for me is, it's like some people say they get this, like, electrical vibe through their whole body and they feel this tingling sensation. Obviously, if you think about, like, like Emperor Palpatine and, in the Star Wars trilogy, you know, power, you know, that type of thing. Some people feel like they have that. But, for me, to me, it's more like a meditative calm, I get. You know, so it's pretty good and it doesn't, it kind of gives you an energy for me that, I can't really sit still. Like, I'm not jittery like taking an energy drink, one of those five hour things, but like I I have to be doing something. I can't like sit at my desk and just work on something. You know, my mind is going, okay, well, I gotta go take care of this. Let me go do that. Let me go do this and do that. That sounds like me normally. So it it might be bad for me to take it. Well, your your mitochondria might be working well or you might get a different reaction altogether. So you never know. You never know. But, but it's great stuff and I love it. It's fantastic and you can get it through the alexjonesstore.com/joe.
Alright. That's my plug. Alright. So first of all, thank you, by the way. You're a you're a veteran. Thank you for your service, sir. I do appreciate it.
[00:23:51] Unknown:
And, I got One thing I always like to say when people say that is, and you were worth it, you know, for for my service and and and everything I went through, you were worth it. It. Well, that that's and I'm sure that throws people off too because I don't I think people really expect that answer.
[00:24:06] Unknown:
I I we we had talked earlier and I mentioned to you a story that I I I had said that to a veteran and, he got a little bit upset with me. He was upset. Yeah. He said, well, thanks for reminding me about, you know, my buddy that got blown to pieces, you know, in Iraq. And I was like, oh, okay. Sorry. I
[00:24:23] Unknown:
wasn't So a lot of veterans don't have filters. They just have to remember that. Yeah. Oh, yeah. For sure. Look, my dad my dad served,
[00:24:29] Unknown:
in the army during Vietnam and and so my dad had no filter whatsoever. If if you ever met my dad my goodness. My dad I'm not gonna go any further than that. Alright. So so twenty years in The US Air Force has to have have to has to have affected you in in a lot of profound ways. Can you give give us, like, one defining moment from your service that still influences your perspective today?
[00:24:57] Unknown:
Yeah. It was in Afghanistan. There was a border attack and, we we were yeah. But no one knew anything about it. No one knew where it was coming in. And if I had started that day walking maybe three minutes, five minutes earlier, it would have hit me directly.
[00:25:16] Unknown:
Wow.
[00:25:17] Unknown:
Yeah. And it it it maybe you'll sit back and realize, okay. What am I doing? You know? I I could easily not be here if I had started working you know, walking earlier that day. So it made me think a lot about my life per se put things into perspective. What's really important? You know? Sure. I mean, that's that's
[00:25:35] Unknown:
that's a crazy crazy thing to to think about that you're just five minutes away from possibly some kind of a life altering injury or, god forbid, you know, loss of life. That's Yeah. Yeah. That's that's pretty profound. So you mentioned in your bio also that you, you had this near death experience. We mentioned it earlier. I think you were what? Seven, if I remember right. Yep. And, tell us what happened with that. What what was what was the circumstances around it and and what went what was going on at that moment?
[00:26:07] Unknown:
Well, it was the early eighties. So it was normal back then to have your parents, not leave you unattended. Mhmm. You know? The whole latchkey thing, was normal. Yep. So I wanna just wanna say that. You know, but a caveat is my parents were good parents. Okay? I had been given some chores to do outside. It was a particularly hot day. I believe we were having a heat ray at that time. And, at that age, you don't realize the signs of heat stroke coming on, of course. And I remember feeling very tired. So what what I did was just lay down, but I would continue to bake in the sun. My body went to the shock, and I passed.
[00:26:43] Unknown:
Oh, wow. And
[00:26:45] Unknown:
I remember waking up in what people refer to as their light body, and I was often say it's like the reverse of a black and white picture. So you're made out of white light, and I was transparent. I can see through myself. K. Looked up, and there was a, circle of light and a dark tunnel and it started traveling up it. When I got to the end, I was given, like, a review of my past life. But this is where where things started getting odd, even more odd. It's like, it happened. I saw it happen before my eyes. It transpired, but it's almost like it happened instantaneously.
Like, time didn't exist. And as soon as that happened, you know, the angel that that showed it to me was, I guess, preferring me Okay. Brought me over to what I perceived to be as as a gate. And I I thought that, okay. This must be the gate to heaven. I guess I died. But then there was another angel there. He was quite upset. And when I saw him, had a had a, like, a a deja vu feeling like, I know this person. I've met this person before. But I get you know, to this day, I still don't know who it is or why I felt that way. But he was quite cross. He was upset with the fact that I was there. And he said, your job isn't done. You have to go back.
And then next thing I remember, waking up back in my body, paramedics hovering over me, and trying to figure out what just happened. Well, that's something that that has to be some crazy experience for a seven year old to have to go through. Yeah. Oh my goodness. And of course, if you if you read out and think about NDEs, I had the normal occurrences with the paranormal afterwards.
[00:28:28] Unknown:
K.
[00:28:29] Unknown:
I started seeing ghosts. I started, you know, both dark and light. There was a few instances where I was seeing things happening before they actually happened, which sort of freaked out my mother a little bit because she was a deeply religious woman, but, she was thought things like that were, you know, quote unquote the devil, you know, like, the water boy's mother would say, you know. And, so what I saw that well, what I was telling her was coming to to to True, you know, in the future, it sort of scared her, so I shut up about it. I just still said nothing and just suffered in silence, really. Now how did how did that experience,
[00:29:07] Unknown:
affect you in in your your your, I guess, your life's mission to to serve humanity?
[00:29:15] Unknown:
Well, I always felt a calling, to serve, as you say, humanity to and I always, like, you know, thought about, okay, could I be a priest? Okay. So I started serving as an altar boy because I was curious when I saw problems within the church. Okay? The priest we had wasn't a kind man. You know? And I mean and when I would have to serve mass, he would hand us the altar wine, you know, for intending for us to drink and, you know, we'd go out there and serve mass all drunk. The two altar boys of the priest were all drunk, you know. And that was like, okay. That was blatantly obviously not for me, you know. So there were other ways to serve humanity, and I decided to go into the service to, you know, as as I was also very much a patriot, so it appealed to me. Yeah. Yeah. I I know what you mean. You're talking about, about,
[00:30:04] Unknown:
you know, priests that weren't exactly good men. You know, growing up, I I grew up Roman Catholic predominantly, and predominantly in that area. My family was mostly Catholic. My uncle, who I idolized, was the first one in the family to to leave the Catholic church and and, go to another denomination. I followed years and years later, but, when I was a child, I remember going through the Catholic catechisms and, my uncle my uncle ended up becoming a pastor for this denomination that he became affiliated with. I'm not gonna say which one it is because I've learned some really horrible things about the denomination as it is and I'm not gonna, you know, give him any publicity. But, but I idolized him and what he would do is he would come home from school, from seminary, from bible school and he'd have all his books and I would read them and then he would take my catechism books and without me knowing it, he would rewrite them.
He would staple pages to it. He would cross out pages, you know, big red marker and then staple papers to it. So, this is not how it happened and he'd write what really happened. But that, of course, affected me, you know, and because I, again, I ally as my uncle, so I'm reading, I'm learning more from him than I am from the Catholics, teaching. And then the day came where I had to go to do a confession and, the priest, really wasn't very tolerant or understanding the fact that I had questions about it. And I told and I asked him, I said, well, why am I telling you what I've done wrong? What are you gonna do for me? You know, you can't you're just a guy, like, you're just a man. And, he didn't, didn't take the time to try to explain it or anything like that. He just took me by the arm, literally pulled me down the steps of the front of the church and handed me to my mother and said, we don't need his kind here.
And that was that was, the last time for a very long time before I set foot in the Catholic church again. So I I understand. That's understandable. Yeah. I understand where you're coming from too. It's like, you know, that that's not, you know, giving young boys wine. And I heard you talk about this in another podcast and, so I'm glad you actually mentioned it. I wanted to ask you about it too. Yeah. You know, to to give young boys, wine and a mass, to have them drunk while they're doing it, not exactly the most Christian thing Yeah. Or a Christian way to be.
You know, so, but, you know, thank God that's in the past and we've both kind of moved on from that thing. We both kind of grew out of that stuff. Now, you also you also struggled in your youth with, with weight. Correct? Yeah. Alright. So, and, I think you were 12 if I remember in your bio correctly. You were 12 and you were struggling with obesity. How did that struggle build the discipline, you need, or or or how did it bring you to bodybuilding? Poetry, music, you know? Well, you know,
[00:33:00] Unknown:
I had a doctor tell me, you know, because I was I'm only five foot three. And at at that time, I was 12 years old at about two hundred thirty pounds. So I was quite big. I was you could say I was morbidly obese. Yeah. And, a doctor told me that I'm not gonna live past 30 if I don't do something about it. And, that woke me up. And then it started me to go to the library, start reading about, you know, the nutritional books, the ones with the thick layer of dust on them that has that's based in scientific fact. Right. And, after my studying, I learned that even the food pyramid perhaps is wrong. And I started experimenting with food, and then that's when I also started getting into bodybuilding. And I loved it because it fulfilled a creative, urge in me to shape and mold the body as if it were a piece of clay.
It's it's a beautiful thing to me at least is at least. Yeah. And it it still disciplined me because I wanted to keep going back to to the gym. I I I I I I mean, I had the what? Last year, I didn't miss a single day at the gym. I went all three sixty five. Yeah.
[00:34:05] Unknown:
I gotta give you credit for that. I I I I did one of those I did one of those, extreme workouts, those ninety day extreme workout things. And it was great. I did it the ninety days, seven days a week. It was it was killer. I don't want to go back to that. I really don't. I'm gonna have to though. I've gained I've gained some weight over the last couple of months. But, but, yeah. I need to do something like that soon. But, I I need that discipline. I don't have it. Right now, I don't have it. I got way too many other things going on. But, one of the things I also wanted to talk to you about too is your poetry.
You you you you sent me a copy of some of your work and I appreciate that. It was really really good to read. You don't really get that style of poetry today at all. I do. It's Beowulf, you know, that style of epic poetry that's the easiest reference I can give somebody to have them understand what I'm talking about. If you've ever read Beowulf, this is the type of work that you're trying to revive in here in this twenty first century because it is being forgotten. Why do you think that epic poetry still really matters And, and what are you doing to work how much work are you putting into this to bring it back?
[00:35:16] Unknown:
Well, the Amazons took me a little over two years to write, and it's only 46,000 words. It's I I had to invent my own poetic, language, basically, LLP linked lyrical poetry in order to make it work. I came across, when I was reading TS Eliot on Poets and Poetry. He's he said in there that it has to be interpreted by the day that it's written. So today, the youth, so Gen z, Gen alpha that's coming, they need to be able to understand it. You know, in their minds, they'd be able to say, if I was to speak in poetry, this is how it would sound. Now if you hold Beowulf to that, nope.
If you hold The Iliad and The Odyssey to that, nope. Shakespeare, not not a clue. Right. You have oftentimes have to have someone explain Shakespeare to you. Yeah. So I needed to rewrite something that they can understand. And and even if they don't understand the word, at least quick look it up and then keep going on. Yeah.
[00:36:15] Unknown:
And it's a great story. I I read I'm I'm not gonna say I read the whole thing. I read the majority of it though. And, it's a great series from what I've from what I'm picking up from it. My question to those, what really drove you to, to write it? Especially to especially, to address the lack of feminine representation in in in a hero's journey?
[00:36:37] Unknown:
Well, in 2010, when I had my daughter, I wanted to enroll her in my love of poetry and a lot of those works, you know. And then that's when I realized, why would a young girl want to read any of this for her? Other than maybe the school assigns it to her and then forces her to read it and write a report on it, perhaps. But other than that, you know, there's nothing in it for for them. You know? They can't even relate, like I said. So why would Gen Z, Gen Alpha want to read that, especially a female?
[00:37:06] Unknown:
Now, for this particular poem, like you mentioned, you you've you've basically developed your own, style of storytelling, your own poetry, linked lyrical poetry, like you mentioned. Can you explain that to us? What exactly is linked lyrical poetry? And why do you think that it really resonates with with the younger generations like Gen Z, Gen Alpha?
[00:37:30] Unknown:
Because it's a it's very close to rap music. Mhmm. And everyone listens to that, and it's so close to rap music. They're used to hearing it then. So it makes sense to them. They're used to the constant beat and the rhyme, the beat and the rhyme, the beat and the rhyme versus a number of poetry that has different pentameters in it, then you're waiting for the rhyme, then you're waiting for the rhyme, then you're waiting. So if they understand it easier because they've I guarantee you they've heard rap music. That's interesting that you say that too. That has that rhyme, the rhythm, the meter of it. Because Yeah.
[00:38:02] Unknown:
You know, I like I use that exact that same exact phraseology when I talk about the Bible. Alright? I I I am a King James guy. I love my King James Bible. I'll never use anything else but a King James Bible. And people tell me that, oh, it's an old archaic book and how do you understand it and all that stuff. Well, I understand it because I read it, first of all. Second of all, if I don't understand something, I go to Webster's 1828 dictionary because that has the best definitions of those old English words. Yep. But what helps me to understand it is the fact that it is written with that certain rhyme, rhythm, and meter. It's easy to read. It's easy to memorize, and it's easy to recite. So I I It resonates with your soul. Exactly. Exactly right. And, so I understand when you say that exactly right. I I agree with you a 100%.
So what was the creative process like, developing LLP and then and then using it in the Amazons?
[00:38:59] Unknown:
Well, it's very time consuming. I mean, it's not uncommon to sit there for an hour and only be able to write one paragraph. Mhmm. I often, compare it to, like, you know, normal writing, like a brick layer, brick laying a brick wall. You know, one brick after another, they're all the same. There's rules. There's regulations. He knows what he has to do. Right. But with LLP running in this format, it takes more creativity. So it's like a natural fuel zone wall. Every every rock is different, every shape is different, and you need to piece them together.
[00:39:31] Unknown:
It's more time consuming. Do you see that do you see LLP becoming, more of a standard in poetry going forward?
[00:39:39] Unknown:
It can be if people have the discipline to do it. Like I said, it's very time consuming and I'm not, you know, I I'm looking into, you know, making classes in the future for people that are willing to do it, but it is very time consuming. Especially to write, like, 46,000 words, story, you know, using nothing but. Yeah.
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Alright. Cool. So can you give us an idea what the Amazon's is about? Give us, like, a synopsis of it.
[00:40:02] Unknown:
Well, basically and and this isn't in the book. Okay? Because there is a series I will I will say this for the people that are interested. There is a Jack Genesee senior that discovered a map, okay, an old scroll that was written by Herodotus in the, British Museum. And this is back in the early eighteen hundreds during the Napoleonic War. Okay? And, the the there's a lot of rumors that they were bankrupt. The Brits were bankrupt back then. So in this scroll, there was a promise of gold, and he piqued the queen's interest. She funded a expedition to the Amazon to see if they could get their hands on it. Almost everybody died, except him and four other people Mhmm. That they're aware of. Very or very few people survived. Some went back to the boat.
And he wound up falling in love with the Amazon queen, and they had a daughter. And he found his way back to England, back to London, and he sent his son when he was on his deathbed, he sent his son to send this, you know, love letter to the queen.
[00:41:09] Unknown:
And he he showed up and found out that he had Amazon's sister, and that this story just progresses from there. Wow. It it's a great story. And like I said, I I've read the most of what you sent me and, I would really encourage everybody to to to pick it up and to read this thing. And it is really, really well written and it it I'll be honest with you, it did take me a little bit to get used to the the style of writing, and then there's at some point you actually you kinda it almost goes to almost like a script format. Right? So so which which kind of threw me off a little bit at first but and then but then it made sense.
I went back, I reread it and I looked at it again. I said, okay, well I understand it now. This makes sense. Now, I'm not a big rap guy. I'm not a, you know, hip hop guy. So I don't, you know, I'm not really familiar with that style. But, it it but once once I got the rhythm of it, it read really well. And I think it I did think it did a fantastic job with it and and I don't know how you came up with this idea of LLP. Well, it got me the nickname on the indie market as the spell caster because of the way it makes people feel and the way it sounds. Yeah. It and it's it's actually, when you when you really look at it, it it it's it's, for lack of a better word, it's a beautiful script.
It really is. And, so I I appreciate that you let you gave me the opportunity to read it. Now, you also have a graphic novel series, called, Sigma Squad, and that that that comes out of the the, the Gnostic gospels. And, and you really get into a lot of themes like the deep state and and whatnot. And so so what woke you up to that in 2020 to create that kind of narrative? Well,
[00:42:50] Unknown:
I think we also are. Just how easily everyone donned a mask without question. And I'm you know, in my mind, I'm taken aback. I'm like, really? That's that's your answer? You're and then, of course, then there were the people that called everyone out that did wear a mask. You know, that was even worse. So I'm like, I I I try to think the best of humanity, but it showed me that, wow, they really are asleep. Yeah. You know? So we need to do something about it. That's why I decided to start writing that. Yeah. Oh, yeah. And I remember that vividly. I work, I work in a in a health care facility,
[00:43:21] Unknown:
in a nursing facility. And so, of course, you know, that was very very stringently followed regulation and whatnot. It made no sense to me whatsoever and I'll tell you why it makes sense to me. And my point was proven because, part of my job is I had to deal with biohazard material. Okay? And, we were boxing everything and we had to we had to don the whole, I call it the marshmallow suit, you know, the whole thing had to coat Yes. I know exactly what you're talking about. Yeah. With the with the with the respirator mask, the gloves, the the face shields, and all that stuff and I still got sick. Even covered head to toe like that, I still got sick.
It none of that stuff worked. And now, of course, it's all coming out that, oh, well, well, we never said it worked. Yeah. You did. You know? And, and then of course, you know, all the all the threats of, you know, you're gonna get fired if you don't get the vaccines, if you're gonna all that stuff, which was absolutely I held out to the very very last day. I thank God I did not take any of that mRNA gene therapy.
[00:44:29] Unknown:
It's not a vaccine. I was I was forced retired. I didn't wanna retire. I was forced retired on the mission because I refused to take it. Yeah. Oh, wow. I didn't see. I didn't I didn't get that in your bio. Okay.
[00:44:39] Unknown:
That's interesting. It's, it's it's really it it was a very very strange, very awkward, very dark time.
[00:44:46] Unknown:
It was. It was.
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And you know, it's and I think we're still feeling the repercussions of that today. There are still people that I see driving around in their cars by themselves wearing face masks. Yes. You know, which is I have a question. Their sanity. Yeah. Well, you know, not only the fact that they're doing it now, but even then you're in the car by yourself. What are you wearing a mask for? I know. And I mean, I and I can honestly say look there there were times because you know you I had to wear it as part of my job that I walked out of work, punched out, got in my car, started pulling out of the parking lot and realized I still had the stupid thing on my face. I get that, but it was quick. It wasn't like I didn't drive, you know, all around the all around the neighborhood like that. It was it's and but you see but you still see it today and people are still afraid of this of this, this virus.
Yeah. It's still a thing like still at my job, they still, you know, require us, you know, if if you get a sniffle to take a COVID test to make sure you But I think you gotta use the air quotes virus. Yeah. Well, I yeah. Yeah. I thought I did. But yeah. But you get. It's one of those it's just one of those crazy periods of time that I don't think I'm hoping that enough people have woken up at this point that if they try to pull something like this again, enough people will see it for what it really is.
[00:46:03] Unknown:
Yeah. They will.
[00:46:04] Unknown:
And, and I know I know that they've been talking about this thing. Are you familiar with Agenda '23? 02/1930? Yes. I am. Yeah. That's all all that stuff is starting to, you know, to come to fruition. And as much as I love my president, as much as I love what Donald Trump is doing, I don't agree with everything, but I think he's doing a fantastic job and I wouldn't want anybody else in the White House at this point. But, the the the globalists are gonna do everything they can to push a worldwide global government on us. That's that's, first of all, that's biblical. That's clearly defined in scripture. And you see So, revelations happens whether we like it or not. Yeah. Exactly. Exactly. And, it's it's like, I heard a movie one time, you know, some things are true whether you believe them or not. And, that's what it is. But this agenda 2030 is, you know, you're you're, you know, by 2030, you're gonna own nothing and you're gonna be happy.
Well, if you're not gonna own anything, who owns everything? You know, think about that. Who's gonna own all that stuff? Who are you paying Black rock. Yeah. Black rock. Who are you paying rent to? Who who's, you know, the communal cars. They don't want you to have a car, so they'll have one car for 18 people. You have to share the car. It's crazy stuff, but it's all it's it's it's that whole thing with the pandemic was, was designed to prepare us for the next step in their whole plan of global dominance. I know it sounds, you know, a little out there, but but that's the way it is.
Unfortunately, that's the truth and that's the way I see it happening. And I am way off my target here. I don't know why I don't know why we're going this way, but, so, I want to talk to you about the the Angelics. Alright? Okay. Very, very impressed with the music. Like I said earlier, really impressed with this stuff. And this it reminds me of stuff that I would listen to in my youth. You know, I was very much into that style of music. I love that stuff. Well, that we're intentionally doing that. That's which is great because that it needs to be now. People have to understand, you know, that type of of of of rock music it had such a stigma attached to it back then. Now, but it it is such a specific talent that you need for that.
Some of the greatest bands like, Manowar. I love Manowar. And and, some of the sounds that I've heard that your band had put out reminded me of Manowar. You know, early Metallica, you know, that stuff was Yeah. That stuff was amazing music when you go back and listen to it now. And and you guys are bringing that forward. Now, you're the lead guitarist for the for this band, the Angelics. So how does how does how does, your poetry tie into your musical journey?
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Well, if you'll listen to the lyrics, every every song I write is is is a poem. Okay? If you break it down, and it's it's there it go hand in hand. And they're that's what's making it so, shall we say, spectacular. And it's resonating with people more because of the way it's written.
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I'm gonna play I'm gonna play a sample of a track that you sent me. This is the Adjusters. Alright. So tell tell us a little bit about this song and where you where you got the inspiration for this.
[00:49:23] Unknown:
Well, I mean, we all see it happening. The, you know, a a thumbtack has been put in the societal zeitgeist of, society. And and we see CEOs being taken out, you know. And and it's so that's why I decided to write a song about it is to make people aware of what's going on. Yeah. So here's here's a little bit of, of the adjusters.
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I like that. Nice. So who's the vocalist?
[00:50:27] Unknown:
Leo. Playing no game. It's, me, Leo, on vocals, Max on keyboards, and Ellis on drums. And how long have you guys been playing? Not long. I hired them actually as contractors six months ago to help me with other projects.
[00:50:45] Unknown:
Oh, wow. Isn't it crazy how that happens? You just connect that way? That's good. He's got a great voice, man. So I've listened to this track probably four times, since you sent it over to me and, I actually I probably should have told you I was going to do it first, but I actually sent it to a friend of mine and I want I wanted his opinion on it because he is he is, he's very very picky about the music that he listens to and, he got back to me on this and he was like, dude, who is this? So, so I so so hopefully, you know, when your album comes out, I'll be able to I'll tell him and he'll be able to go get it. But this is this is great stuff and, wow. Really, really talented band, just amazing stuff. I love music. I love all kinds of music. Yeah. And this really I don't know. Just something about the I think the arrangement itself just kind of spoke to me a little bit.
Kind of felt it. You know, I don't know if that makes sense to to somebody who's not really the music.
[00:52:12] Unknown:
Intentionally targeting Gen x Mhmm. The eighties genre to try to spark some nostalgia perhaps.
[00:52:19] Unknown:
So we're intentionally doing that. Mission accomplished, my friend. Mission accomplished. At least at least with me. So, so, so you you got together with this band in what? 02/2025. So it was this year. You got together Oh, six months. Six months ago. Six months ago. And, so what's the vision you have for the first album?
[00:52:42] Unknown:
Wake people up. Okay. Wake people up. Shock a little a few. Shock a few. I I I know being conservative and some of the things that we are singing about might come under scrutiny. So I'm expecting some pushback, but we'll see. You know? But I'm sure you've you've experienced that yourself being, you know, conservative minded. You know, anytime you go to the media, you get pushed back. Yeah. All the time. But, you know what?
[00:53:06] Unknown:
I'd I'd look at it like, you have your opinions. I have my opinions. If we can't agree, that's fine. There's no reason to argue. There's no reason to fight over it. Just laugh about it and move on. And, that's what I try to do. I don't I don't, you know, if some liberal nutcase wants to come over and start screaming in my face, yeah, okay. Yeah, that's fine. Look, I spent twenty plus years in law enforcement in New York City. I've seen a lot. I've experienced a lot. I've gotten yelled at a lot. I've gotten cursed at a lot. Nothing really fazes me anymore. I I just I just You aren't doing your job if you're not getting yelled at. That's right. You know what? And we used to say that all the time. If if they're not complaining about you, you're not doing your job right.
Yeah. Especially in law enforcement because you're not gonna complain if if they're if a blind eye is being turned to everything that you're doing. You're gonna complain if they're enforcing the rules and enforcing the laws. So, yeah. It it but great great stuff. Let's see what else I got for you. Your near death experience and, Sigma Squad's Gnostic roots touch on spiritual and the paranormal. Now, I love paranormal stuff, so I wanna talk to you more about the near death experiences, paranormal stuff. And, now, I had a I had a a couple on the show a few months ago already. Wow. That was that was that long ago.
They have they have a podcast called Creepy Coffees Podcast and their paranormal their husband and wife paranormal investigative team. We had a great time, a great conversation, a lot of fun. And, so I love talking about this stuff. Since since the NDE, I know you said you've had some experiences. Can you talk about any of those experiences that you had? Anything that really stuck out with you? Anything that really impacted you?
[00:54:50] Unknown:
Well, when I was younger, it stuck with me, the paranormal experiences. But once puberty hit, it seemed to die down a lot. So prior to it, I was seeing, like, white balls of light come towards me, and then they would manifest into what I perceived as dead people. They were ghosts. And there were always the black mists that I would see, but they're always, like, far away. They would never come close. Okay. And but once puberty hit, a lot of it died down, but I was and still to this day, I'm still very much an empath, and I'll feel, positive and negative energies.
When I was in Italy, when I was still serving, I was stationed at Aviano in Italy and, went at a tour of castles because I love castles. And there was one that we came to and I I start you know, my my, Scooby sense, I I call it, kicked up, like, a mile down the Road. And I'm like, what's going on? And I started seeing visions of torture and murder, and and and we came to this old castle. And I'm like, oh my gosh. There was a lot of negative things that happened in that place that I couldn't I couldn't force myself to go in. Really? Wow. Because I I was it still lingered there. There was still a lot of negative entities still in there. Yeah. Well, first of all, I'm not surprised that you like castles.
[00:56:04] Unknown:
Yeah. The style of poetry, the music, I'm not surprised you like castles. But I I know what you're saying too. I I've had my share of experiences with paranormal stuff. As a matter of fact, in this house that I'm living in now, I've had my fair share of, of experiences. One story that I had and I didn't think of it, I just thought of it now, is I have a video. It was from, I want to say, maybe six months ago, seven months ago maybe. It was in my kitchen and I had I have an island in my kitchen and I have this, this ice cube stamp. Yeah, I'm like that. I like the ice cube stamps. So, I had this ice cube stamp and, I hadn't used it. It was just sitting in in on the back end of the island.
And, I was in the kitchen and I was just kind of moving some stuff around and I turned around and I noticed that it wasn't where I had put it. Like, it had moved from the the far the far back. I wish I had the video to show you. It would move had moved from the far back and it moved forward maybe about a foot. Okay? So, I'm looking at it and then I see it move very slightly. This little slide. I look to see that there's no water. There's nothing on the thing. It's bone dry. Grab my phone. I start recording this thing and it's continued to slide and I have the video of it sliding across the the top of the island And I cannot explain it. I I don't know where how that happened. There's I'm sure people can look at it and say, well, you know, it's the angle and the thing. And, you know, it's metal on marble. It's always a crane. Yeah. There's always somebody.
But, no, man. That thing that thing was moving by itself, and, I had other experiences here in this place that, kind of interesting. Like, I have my two kids, my French bulldogs, my kids. We were here in the studio and, this is before I did the renovation on the house. And in the kitchen, I had their food bowls up against this partition that I had that separated the the living room from the dining room. And, I I kept their food bowls along that partition. And, when my mom was alive, I had told her when I first moved in here, this is, you know, how I set the whole thing up. And, she was like, well, I don't like them over there. Should put them on the other side of the wall. I mean, because people are gonna trip over them. I'm like, well, who's coming here? Nobody comes here. It was just me. So my mom lived back up in New York. I was down here. So it's like, you know, nobody's coming.
So anyway, so one day, I'm I'm in the studio here. Mom mom had passed away and, I was in the studio. I was just messing around with some stuff. The dogs were in here with me and I heard metal scraping across the floor. And I got up and I looked and the dogs were standing by the door to the studio and they would they didn't go out of the room, but they were both, like, craning their necks looking out the door and my girl, her hair all the hair in her back was standing straight up. And, I went out there and I looked. I didn't have my phone with me, but I went out and looked and the metal food bowls that I had for them were slid from where I kept them to the other side of the kitchen where where my mom said to put them in the first place.
So, I found my phone. I called my sister and I'm telling my sister this. She goes, oh, that's mommy. She's just messing with you. And I'm like, yeah. You know, that's that creeped me out. But, but it's mom, so I don't you know, not too bad. But the fact that it happened creeped me out. And then there was one other time, back in New York. I just moved into this house we bought from an estate sale. And, the previous owners, original owners, both passed away in the house, you know, many years apart from each other. And, I was up in the master bedroom with my wife at the time. We were making the bed and kids were out, windows were closed, it was summer, the ACs were on, you know, the central air was on, so no outside sounds or noises.
And, we're I'm on one side of the bed, she's on the other. She she both lift the sheet up to pull it and go to pull it down. And, when we did that, clear as day, we both heard a woman's voice say, who is that? And when it came and when it came down, she looked at me, I looked at her, I was like, you heard that? She goes, I heard something, what did you hear? Oh, you tell me first. You know, and she told me and I was like, yeah. That's exactly what I heard. That was the only time I heard that. Another one other time I was we were unpacking in the kitchen and the stove was on the other side from where I was standing. My back was to it and just out of nowhere, the glass in the front of the stove shattered.
Bought a replacement. Put it on. Shout it again. Had had to replace it twice. So lots of crazy stuff. And then, of course, I I take it to the extreme and, I get myself, one of those cameras that have the night vision and I plant and I and I and I send them out for the weekend and I go down the basement. I'm sitting down there with no power on the night vision just looking at everything. So, yeah. Yeah. So, I've had my share of experiences, you know, up until recently actually. So, it's been very interesting. But the paranormal stuff always intrigued me. And, now, with near death experiences, like I said, I've never experienced one myself.
And, so, and at seven years old to experience that, like I said earlier, it has to be traumatic, and, but you hear so many stories about people who have these things and, like, and like we said before, it's everybody's a little bit a little bit of a different story. Yours was probably one of the more common stories that I've heard. I've heard horror stories about some of these things, you know. Yeah. As of I, yes. You know, so, do you do you think there's any real validity to these things, these these near depths? Or or do you think this is just something that happens biologically in your brain? This is something that you may have heard or or or or was taught or seen some place? Do you you know where I'm going?
[01:02:07] Unknown:
Well, okay. And this is something that a lot of people say that that had NDEs as well. When you're over there, there's a feeling of love that's indescribable. You I cannot describe it to you with words. Easiest or closest thing I could think of is when you're a child and your mother hugs you, you know, and you're you feel safe and warm and everything's okay. But it's it's so much more amplified to that. And and it's something we all, a lot of us, have experienced. We've all felt the same thing. Yeah. Okay. So why why is that? You know, why why are we all feeling this love? You know, because it exists.
And there's no doubt in my mind that that exists. I I I miss it every day, you know. And I know someday I'll go back to it. I'll have it back. But this effect that not only does it exist in my in my purview, it exists in everyone else's ahead of NDE. Why are we all saying this? You know? Yeah. Yeah. It it's it is no doubt in my mind that that realm exists. And it it's not just in another place, it's all around us. How do you It's all around us. How do you see the
[01:03:18] Unknown:
the, I guess, the interplay, of of, metaphysics and culture shaping in today's world?
[01:03:29] Unknown:
I often look at it like it's a, you know, a big monopoly game. It's a a game of and I wrote a song about this, a game of shadows and light. You know? If you could think of, like, the lions in Africa hiding their prey. Okay? The ones that are lying the people that are lying, stealing, cheating are the ones the lions are going after. They're the demons they're going after. Okay? They're manipulating. They're the ones that they're getting. You know? The ones that's ahead of the pack because at the head of the pack, they can't even get to them. Okay? It's very much, the way it plays out, in my opinion. You know? We see someone that lived till 80, maybe 90 years old, lie, steal, cheat you know, steal their steal their entire life.
And we think, oh, they got away with it. No. They didn't get away with it. They just were a player and and, you know, a cog in in the whole game. Okay? They were allowed to do that because they they were helping them. But they're still yeah. It it's it's a matter of realizing where you're at, honestly, in the game and then learning to elevate, become better than you are. And that's why I always talk about, like, have you ever ever read, like, Power versus Force by doctor Hawkins?
[01:04:42] Unknown:
Not read it, but I know of it.
[01:04:44] Unknown:
Okay. If you do you know anything of the map of consciousness that he Yes. He okay. Often compared to it like that, you know, it's like people come to me with, you know, like, hey, man. This guy cut me off of traffic today. I'm so pissed off. I'm like, well, he's probably at the lower level of consciousness. You under you need to understand that he's acting as where he's at on that map. You know? Do you get mad at a dog for barking? Because he's at that a certain level, he's getting a mat I get mad at a cat for meowing. You understand where they're at. You need to understand where people are at on that map of consciousness and look at our act accordingly. Of course, Jesus was at the top. Right. But you need to understand the people at the at the lower level are gonna act at the lower level. I'm sure you saw them every day as a cop. Did you not? Oh, yeah.
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You should.
[01:05:30] Unknown:
I could tell you a story. So, I mean, you need to understand. So don't get and don't get mad about it. Don't get upset about it. These people exist. They're just at the lower level. Do what you can to help them, but don't let them draw you down. Yeah. Oh, that that that's great advice. I mean, you you you don't go down to their level. You gotta bring you gotta try to bring them up.
[01:05:47] Unknown:
And the way you bring them up is by communicating. You talk to them. Yeah. You you try to guide them as as they move through these these different stages and different levels. So it it Yeah. You know, it it's I I just had I had an idea in my head. It just flipped out of my head. But,
[01:06:07] Unknown:
Well, I often look at it like Yeah. It's gone. A lighthouse, you know? Yeah. It it's you know, and and the lighthouse is just a lighthouse and it's just standing there doing what it does. When the bolts of troubled water are ready to come in, they'll look towards you, the lighthouse, for guidance, you know. But, it's not it's not forcing them to come to shore. They have to make the conscious decision to come to shore.
[01:06:30] Unknown:
Shore. I'm looking to see if I could find the, map of consciousness, like an image of it at least. Here we go. Let's see if this Let me see if I can get this to screen share. So
[01:06:59] Unknown:
now I think people need to start understanding not only where they're at on that map, but where other people they're interacting with, you know, on that map. And, you know, because you always hear about, you know, people do something that that's so horrific, you can't happen to understand, you know, a question. Are they even human? Well, they're at the lower level, of course. So they're gonna act accordingly. Yeah. Hurt people hurt others.
[01:07:26] Unknown:
I'm just I'm still trying to pull this thing up. It's like let me see if there we go. Okay. And the screen share, because maybe you could, explain a little bit about this map here.
[01:07:48] Unknown:
Okay. When you encounter people that are obviously at the lower levels, you know, understand that they're gonna speak two different two different languages, especially if you're at the upper levels. Okay? So a person at the lower level, if you wrong them, you hurt them, they're gonna want revenge. They're gonna act out. They wanna fight you versus someone that's at the upper levels is going to maybe turn turn the cheek. And the person at the lower level is gonna see you as weak, call call your names, you know, as you walk away and not wanna fight them. So you're you're speaking two different language and you understand, how to react with them and not and not get yourself involved. So don't go down to their level.
Keep yourself at at this current level, but pity them. Okay? You know, say a prayer for them. If they need help, help them, but don't let them drag you down. Okay? Don't let them keep them in your prayers. That's all I could say. Keep them in your prayers and help them as much as you can.
[01:08:48] Unknown:
This stuff is this stuff is fascinating stuff and,
[01:08:53] Unknown:
I really need to study this. This is really interesting. Like, I've I've seen the map. I've seen this this chart. Yeah. But I know One thing that's it is effective and it's they'll do it at war too, at at wartime when, like, GIs maybe are missing a limb or something like that. They're poor you'll see doctors actually purposely because they'll be in the lower levels of guilt, same empathy, grief, purposely piss them off. Because all of a sudden then they level up to anger, and it's at least it's better than where they were at if you could piss them off. Mhmm. Because it's it's bringing them up. It's it then, you know, when you're pissed off, you're like, okay. I'm I'm not gonna die. I'm gonna, you know, I'm gonna live to fight you. At least it's something better than what it was. And it it actually can help. It's small doses that is anger.
[01:09:42] Unknown:
That's interesting. Wow. I really have to study this. This is the like I said, I've I've seen the map. I've I've seen this chart many, many times, but I never really studied it, like, carefully looked at it. Were you saying anger? So the predominant emotional state, hate, antagonistic is the view of life, vengeful, aggression.
[01:10:02] Unknown:
And then But, you know, think about if someone was at the the shame level, someone was at the bottom all of a sudden, and you intentionally piss them off to get them at a higher level. You're helping them.
[01:10:13] Unknown:
Yeah. And, it's and it's not necessarily a step by step process either. You can go from shame to anger. Just like
[01:10:23] Unknown:
like at at Every day, it's you're different at a different level every day. Yeah. But you need to be conscious of it and and do your best to make your way up to the higher levels.
[01:10:33] Unknown:
Oh, this is fascinating, man. We I I would really like to talk to you off the show more about this stuff to get a better grasp of it. But this is And there's also a correlation between that and Maslow's hierarchy of needs.
[01:10:45] Unknown:
So, you know, people at the lower level of that and at the higher level of that involves there's a there's a correlation. You you'll see if we can put them, like, side by side.
[01:10:52] Unknown:
Alright, Peter. So where could, what's what's new? What's next for you? What's the big thing? What's coming down the road?
[01:10:59] Unknown:
Well, the album's coming out September 1, and we also have so it's gonna be, eighties rock, eighties styles rock. We also have a lighter side, so, like, love songs from the eighties that were gonna come out, put out a separate album. So you could take your pick, you know, whichever style you like. And then let's see here. I'm currently I have about 30 voice actors hired, and we're redoing the Amazon's audiobook. My, very talented producer slash director, Andrea Giordani, and who is also the most talented voice actress I've ever met, is helping me by putting it all together for me. And we're hoping by Christmas, it will be out. It'll basically it would take the story, and it'll make it sound like you're listening to a movie because we put put in, all the sound effects that would needed to be in the story. Alright. This is very time consuming.
[01:11:52] Unknown:
Well, doing an audiobook, I'm sure, is no slow no light challenge either. I'm sure that's gonna that's its own shit. But I have a great team behind me. Yeah. And how many people you said it takes to do this? 30?
[01:12:04] Unknown:
Well, right now, I have 12 people working for me to help out. Yes.
[01:12:11] Unknown:
Well, God bless you, brother. This is great work. I I I'm really impressed. I I really I truly am. The the book, the Amazons, you you got folks, you got to get it. You got to check it out. And, be prepared for it. It's, you know, prepare yourself to read this thing. It's not an easy read. You got to really pay attention to what you're reading, but it's great stuff. It's going to be a blessing to you. And then, Sigma Squad, I haven't checked that out yet, but I'm going to. And then, really looking forward to the album coming out, brother. I really am the angelics. That is great. And thank you for the tracks that you sent sent over to me. So so where are we gonna be able to get all your stuff?
[01:12:47] Unknown:
Well, you go to www.petergun.net for most of my books and, and podcasts. And then we well, you just caught us at the, fledgling stage, shall we say, of the band. So I just bought the angelics.com.
[01:13:03] Unknown:
We haven't put anything up on the website, but I will put updates on my website about the band. Well, if you're in the fledgling running. If you're in the fledgling stage with the band, it sure doesn't sound like that when you listen to your music.
[01:13:15] Unknown:
It's and honestly We're all professionals. We we've all done this before. This is old hat. So, I mean, it's like bam riding a bike for us. Yeah. Well, yeah. But but even so, I mean
[01:13:26] Unknown:
I mean, it sounds like you guys been playing together for a very, very long time. There's there's that synchronicity between you guys that just sounds fantastic. So, you know, fledgling or not, I think you got a I think you got a bright future ahead of you there with that, pal. Oh, thank you. Thank you. I really do. I really do. And I wish you all the best with that and I look forward to, catching up with you again. Alright, Peter. So, we'll make sure we have all of your links and everything in the show notes. We're already there and, I know you sent me a graphic that I'm gonna include, if I if I can in the show notes. If not, then I'll definitely put all the information about the band, in there as I as we said.
And, I'm looking forward to it. You gotta get back to me, by the way, at that one track I asked you about. Okay. Will do. Because I I that's I really I like, I wanna play it, but I don't wanna play it yet. So I you know, because I wanna do it my way. Okay. Alright. Peter Gunn. Oh, by the way, real name or stage name?
[01:14:20] Unknown:
Stage name. Okay. Because long ago, I opt into I played, blackjack with James Gandolfini. And I asked him if he had to do it all over again. What would he do? He said, change your name, kid.
[01:14:34] Unknown:
So I'm taking his advice. Alright. James Gandolfini tells you to change change your name. Yeah. Yeah. And he kept his and well, okay. That's great. Alright. He had a lot of paparazzi problems. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I'm sure he did. I I, you know, I I I remember watching him when he first started rolling around, in his first roles and I thought I said, oh, this guy's gonna be good. This guy's gonna be something. And, yeah, he he it's a it's a shame that he passed away so young. That was just that was terrible. Yeah. He did. That's a shame. Alright. Peter Gunn, thank you so much for spending your evening with us and, I look forward to talking to you again very, very soon. I'll shoot you a text after the show. Watch your that. Take care, Joe. Take care, brother. God bless you. Alright, folks. This is the Joe Russo.
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[01:22:27] Unknown:
Song and bring the sunny weather. Happy trails
[01:22:33] Unknown:
to you. To remain
Yeah. I told myself I said I quit a thousand times, but comforted and in the crime. I know the cost. I feel the way, but something pulls me back to I built the cage and called it me. Locked the door then lost the key. I say I'm better, maybe I am. But when I fall, I fall like that. Alright. Hey, folks. This is Joe Roos. It is nineteen hundred hours, Friday, 08/08/2025, and we are transmitting to you live tonight from the Asylum Studios, broadcasting from the pimple on the backside of Texas, the beautiful broadcasting from the pimple on the backside of Texas, the beautiful city of Eagle Pass, and doing the very best we can to bring you the best quality talk radio we could muster without all the bluster.
Welcome to the Joe Root Show. Alright folks. Guess what? It is Friday. Finally. We made it. Another week in the books, my friends. Another week, and we didn't kill anybody. That's always a good thing, right? It sure is. It's always a good thing not to kill somebody. Oh, man. What a week. And I hope you guys are ready for the weekend. Don't forget that this weekend we have our, Saturday spotlight show tomorrow at 3PM and then Sunday we have our Sunday bible study show at six. So don't forget to check all of that stuff out and, in case you were wondering if you were connected when we first started the stream, that song that you heard was a song called The Loop and the band that was playing that was the Angelics.
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And, her advice to you was buy some. Buy some. Don't spend a fortune on it. Don't spend like a like thousands of dollars, you know, spend $50,100 bucks on it. You know, this way, you know, it's a meme coin and if it if it crashes, at least, you know, you didn't lose anything. I think it's of significance. Let's put it that way. So I made a I made a couple of purchase I made a purchase of it and, today, right before the show, I got a little message here from, gonna dot algo or gonna algo at, on x. And, they were very generous and sent us over a, a gift of, of some of these Ghana coins. So we appreciate that. Thank you so very much for it. Make sure you head over to, Twitter or x and look up, Ghana Algo on X and, say hello. Let them know we sent you over there and, and and make some make a purchase. Buy some of it.
We have a feeling and our crypto, our resident crypto psychic feels that we're going to be able to make a few, few bucks on this on this coin. So check it out. Well worth it. Well, well worth it. Alright. Let me just fix this here. Now, I think, I got my kids watching the show in the other room there. I think the TV is too loud. So I can hear it. And, of course, I'm futzing with stuff and I shouldn't be doing that right now. I know. But, you know, it's Friday. It's Friday. Screw it. Just leave it right here. Alright. Now, he has been patiently waiting for us in the, in our in our little waiting room. So, what I would like to do is, introduce to you Peter Gunn.
Tonight, Peter Gunn, he's a US Air Force veteran with twenty years of honorable service, an avid body builder, lead guitarist for the up and coming band The Angelics, like I said earlier, a coffee connoisseur, which already, he's one of my favorite people. He's a poet, and he's dedicated to reviving epic poetry and literary craftsmanship. Peter's life took a profound turn at the age of seven after a near death experience that shaped his mission to serve humanity. He's the creative force behind the Amazons series, addressing the feminine in the hero's journey and the Sigma Squad graphic novel series, inspired by the ancient gnostic texts.
A true renaissance man, Peter's here to share his eclectic journey and bold ideas with us. Peter, welcome to the show. How you doing, my friend? Well, I think you gotta turn your mic on, bud. Nothing? Let me see. See, these are the joys of doing a live show. I don't think it's your headphones, I think it's your mic. Still nothing? You can hear me though? Rumble. Rumble. Rumble. Rumble. What are we gonna do with you, rumble? Let's see. Let me, let me try a refresh. Anything now? I don't hear you. My goodness. Let me see. What was this? Alright. Try it now.
See, we should've did we should've did a mic check before the show started. Alright. Let me see. Let me see what I could do here. What else can I do? What else can I do? This, that, that's working. That's working. That is working. Yeah, everything's everything's clear on my end here. Tell you what, let me let me do this. Give me one second. If we, if we get disconnected here, we'll just restart the stream. Okay, so give me a second. I think I hear you. Let me just check. Let me turn the camera on. Here we go. And there we go.
Alright. Peter, can you hear me now? I can hear you. Oh, beautiful. I got you now. We're good. Okay. Great. Okay. Great. Alright. Not sure what that problem was but, a little restart. Never hurt anybody.
[00:18:11] Unknown:
So We caught a love to happen at Air Force. It's just a hard reset.
[00:18:17] Unknown:
There you go. Perfect. Alright. Let me just fix my windows here and we're good to go. Alrighty. So, I owe you, I owe you six minutes.
[00:18:29] Unknown:
We're good.
[00:18:30] Unknown:
We're good. Well, Peter, welcome to the show. It's great to have you here and, sorry about the little technical thing there. I don't know, Rumble's been giving me a problem lately. I have I have, like, several open tickets with them. I'm not sure exactly what the deal is, but, but we're glad you're here with us. I'm glad you stuck with us. Thank you so much for it. So, that the song that I played at the at the opening of the show, as I call it a warm up, called The Loop. Great song. Really, really enjoyed that song. Give it tell tell me a little something about it. Where did it come from?
[00:19:01] Unknown:
Well, I mean, all of us see it, but we don't really see it per se. You have, people in your life or, people around you, maybe friends, family, that are stuck in a loop. So whether they're trying to quit cigarettes, they keep going back, whether it's alcoholism or and one of my favorites because it's it's sort of funny to see. You know, I don't wanna make fun of, anyone, but you see young girls pick the same bad guys over and over and over and then expecting a different result. Yeah. You know? True. But that that's what it's about. People that that, have that sort of thing going on in their lives, and they might not necessarily realize it.
And then, you know, maybe help, bring clarity to them.
[00:19:44] Unknown:
Well, it's a great song, man. I I love it. And and you sent me a bunch of tracks, and I'll I'll be honest with you. I have Yeah. Several of them loaded up here in my mixing board. I was playing around with them while I was getting the studio set up. So I had I had some background music going to it. It's it's really, really good stuff, man. I'm I'm really glad that you shared it with me too. Now, you played you played lead on these?
[00:20:05] Unknown:
I played the guitar. And there are some songs that are gonna be on the album that I am singing as well. Awesome. When's the album coming out? Well, we're hoping,
[00:20:14] Unknown:
knock on wood, September 1. Oh, outstanding. Outstanding. Gotta let gotta let me know. This way, I can get it. So looking forward to it, my friend. Looking forward to it. Alright. So let me ask you this. So we always start off every show, every time we have a guest on the show with with a couple of warm up questions, some softballs just to kinda loosen up everything. So what is something that most people don't know about you but should?
[00:20:35] Unknown:
Well, I had NDE, and I'm a NDE survivor when I was a child. So,
[00:20:41] Unknown:
I had died basically and come back. And it changed my life forever. Right. And I know we're gonna get to that a little bit. I have a I have a section on of the questions that I wanna ask you about, specifically about the NDEs. I find them fascinating to be honest with you. The just the the the variation that people the things that people experience in these things are there are a lot of lot of similarities, but there are also some pretty extreme differences as well. So it's it's very it's a very interesting subject. I'm fascinated by it. Alright. So then, what's your, what's your go to beverage to unwind at the end of the day? Now, I know you work out. You're you're a you're a bodybuilder, so I'm sure it's nothing nothing too bad for you. I stick to straight water. I I drink nothing but straight water. Yeah.
[00:21:22] Unknown:
Just water, No coffee, tea. I'm a very bored person. I mean, I drink coffee. Yes. I'll drink coffee and tea. But other than that, I'm a very bored person in that way. Yeah. Have you ever tried methylene blue? I've been wanting to. I've seen,
[00:21:39] Unknown:
other people taking it and and, you know, it's it's sparked my curiosity. Oh, it's great. I love it. Actually, I have a if you're interested, I have a affiliate link with the alexjonesstore.com/joe. And, 10% of your purchase comes right back here to the show. So, I really appreciate that. Oh, yeah. I'm gonna have to check it out. Definitely. Yeah. No. It's great stuff. Yeah. I've been I've been on it now for this is my fourth month on it and, it affects everybody a little bit different. I know a guy, that takes it before a workout, coincidentally.
And, used about thirty minutes before that and he says, it really helps with the intensity of his workout. So, that might be something you benefit from. But everybody's a little bit different. But, one of the warnings that I always give everybody before, you know, we go any further with it is if you are taking anything like antidepressants, SSRIs, anything like that, do not take this. Do not drink this stuff. It there there's a contraindication with it and it will mess you up. You will get sick. So, check with your doctor first before you do it. That's my advice. That's my warning.
[00:22:38] Unknown:
My disclaimer You definitely have to get that disclaimer in there. Get it in there. Yes. Absolutely.
[00:22:42] Unknown:
So, but for me, what it does for me is, it's like some people say they get this, like, electrical vibe through their whole body and they feel this tingling sensation. Obviously, if you think about, like, like Emperor Palpatine and, in the Star Wars trilogy, you know, power, you know, that type of thing. Some people feel like they have that. But, for me, to me, it's more like a meditative calm, I get. You know, so it's pretty good and it doesn't, it kind of gives you an energy for me that, I can't really sit still. Like, I'm not jittery like taking an energy drink, one of those five hour things, but like I I have to be doing something. I can't like sit at my desk and just work on something. You know, my mind is going, okay, well, I gotta go take care of this. Let me go do that. Let me go do this and do that. That sounds like me normally. So it it might be bad for me to take it. Well, your your mitochondria might be working well or you might get a different reaction altogether. So you never know. You never know. But, but it's great stuff and I love it. It's fantastic and you can get it through the alexjonesstore.com/joe.
Alright. That's my plug. Alright. So first of all, thank you, by the way. You're a you're a veteran. Thank you for your service, sir. I do appreciate it.
[00:23:51] Unknown:
And, I got One thing I always like to say when people say that is, and you were worth it, you know, for for my service and and and everything I went through, you were worth it. It. Well, that that's and I'm sure that throws people off too because I don't I think people really expect that answer.
[00:24:06] Unknown:
I I we we had talked earlier and I mentioned to you a story that I I I had said that to a veteran and, he got a little bit upset with me. He was upset. Yeah. He said, well, thanks for reminding me about, you know, my buddy that got blown to pieces, you know, in Iraq. And I was like, oh, okay. Sorry. I
[00:24:23] Unknown:
wasn't So a lot of veterans don't have filters. They just have to remember that. Yeah. Oh, yeah. For sure. Look, my dad my dad served,
[00:24:29] Unknown:
in the army during Vietnam and and so my dad had no filter whatsoever. If if you ever met my dad my goodness. My dad I'm not gonna go any further than that. Alright. So so twenty years in The US Air Force has to have have to has to have affected you in in a lot of profound ways. Can you give give us, like, one defining moment from your service that still influences your perspective today?
[00:24:57] Unknown:
Yeah. It was in Afghanistan. There was a border attack and, we we were yeah. But no one knew anything about it. No one knew where it was coming in. And if I had started that day walking maybe three minutes, five minutes earlier, it would have hit me directly.
[00:25:16] Unknown:
Wow.
[00:25:17] Unknown:
Yeah. And it it it maybe you'll sit back and realize, okay. What am I doing? You know? I I could easily not be here if I had started working you know, walking earlier that day. So it made me think a lot about my life per se put things into perspective. What's really important? You know? Sure. I mean, that's that's
[00:25:35] Unknown:
that's a crazy crazy thing to to think about that you're just five minutes away from possibly some kind of a life altering injury or, god forbid, you know, loss of life. That's Yeah. Yeah. That's that's pretty profound. So you mentioned in your bio also that you, you had this near death experience. We mentioned it earlier. I think you were what? Seven, if I remember right. Yep. And, tell us what happened with that. What what was what was the circumstances around it and and what went what was going on at that moment?
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Well, it was the early eighties. So it was normal back then to have your parents, not leave you unattended. Mhmm. You know? The whole latchkey thing, was normal. Yep. So I wanna just wanna say that. You know, but a caveat is my parents were good parents. Okay? I had been given some chores to do outside. It was a particularly hot day. I believe we were having a heat ray at that time. And, at that age, you don't realize the signs of heat stroke coming on, of course. And I remember feeling very tired. So what what I did was just lay down, but I would continue to bake in the sun. My body went to the shock, and I passed.
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Oh, wow. And
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I remember waking up in what people refer to as their light body, and I was often say it's like the reverse of a black and white picture. So you're made out of white light, and I was transparent. I can see through myself. K. Looked up, and there was a, circle of light and a dark tunnel and it started traveling up it. When I got to the end, I was given, like, a review of my past life. But this is where where things started getting odd, even more odd. It's like, it happened. I saw it happen before my eyes. It transpired, but it's almost like it happened instantaneously.
Like, time didn't exist. And as soon as that happened, you know, the angel that that showed it to me was, I guess, preferring me Okay. Brought me over to what I perceived to be as as a gate. And I I thought that, okay. This must be the gate to heaven. I guess I died. But then there was another angel there. He was quite upset. And when I saw him, had a had a, like, a a deja vu feeling like, I know this person. I've met this person before. But I get you know, to this day, I still don't know who it is or why I felt that way. But he was quite cross. He was upset with the fact that I was there. And he said, your job isn't done. You have to go back.
And then next thing I remember, waking up back in my body, paramedics hovering over me, and trying to figure out what just happened. Well, that's something that that has to be some crazy experience for a seven year old to have to go through. Yeah. Oh my goodness. And of course, if you if you read out and think about NDEs, I had the normal occurrences with the paranormal afterwards.
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K.
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I started seeing ghosts. I started, you know, both dark and light. There was a few instances where I was seeing things happening before they actually happened, which sort of freaked out my mother a little bit because she was a deeply religious woman, but, she was thought things like that were, you know, quote unquote the devil, you know, like, the water boy's mother would say, you know. And, so what I saw that well, what I was telling her was coming to to to True, you know, in the future, it sort of scared her, so I shut up about it. I just still said nothing and just suffered in silence, really. Now how did how did that experience,
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affect you in in your your your, I guess, your life's mission to to serve humanity?
[00:29:15] Unknown:
Well, I always felt a calling, to serve, as you say, humanity to and I always, like, you know, thought about, okay, could I be a priest? Okay. So I started serving as an altar boy because I was curious when I saw problems within the church. Okay? The priest we had wasn't a kind man. You know? And I mean and when I would have to serve mass, he would hand us the altar wine, you know, for intending for us to drink and, you know, we'd go out there and serve mass all drunk. The two altar boys of the priest were all drunk, you know. And that was like, okay. That was blatantly obviously not for me, you know. So there were other ways to serve humanity, and I decided to go into the service to, you know, as as I was also very much a patriot, so it appealed to me. Yeah. Yeah. I I know what you mean. You're talking about, about,
[00:30:04] Unknown:
you know, priests that weren't exactly good men. You know, growing up, I I grew up Roman Catholic predominantly, and predominantly in that area. My family was mostly Catholic. My uncle, who I idolized, was the first one in the family to to leave the Catholic church and and, go to another denomination. I followed years and years later, but, when I was a child, I remember going through the Catholic catechisms and, my uncle my uncle ended up becoming a pastor for this denomination that he became affiliated with. I'm not gonna say which one it is because I've learned some really horrible things about the denomination as it is and I'm not gonna, you know, give him any publicity. But, but I idolized him and what he would do is he would come home from school, from seminary, from bible school and he'd have all his books and I would read them and then he would take my catechism books and without me knowing it, he would rewrite them.
He would staple pages to it. He would cross out pages, you know, big red marker and then staple papers to it. So, this is not how it happened and he'd write what really happened. But that, of course, affected me, you know, and because I, again, I ally as my uncle, so I'm reading, I'm learning more from him than I am from the Catholics, teaching. And then the day came where I had to go to do a confession and, the priest, really wasn't very tolerant or understanding the fact that I had questions about it. And I told and I asked him, I said, well, why am I telling you what I've done wrong? What are you gonna do for me? You know, you can't you're just a guy, like, you're just a man. And, he didn't, didn't take the time to try to explain it or anything like that. He just took me by the arm, literally pulled me down the steps of the front of the church and handed me to my mother and said, we don't need his kind here.
And that was that was, the last time for a very long time before I set foot in the Catholic church again. So I I understand. That's understandable. Yeah. I understand where you're coming from too. It's like, you know, that that's not, you know, giving young boys wine. And I heard you talk about this in another podcast and, so I'm glad you actually mentioned it. I wanted to ask you about it too. Yeah. You know, to to give young boys, wine and a mass, to have them drunk while they're doing it, not exactly the most Christian thing Yeah. Or a Christian way to be.
You know, so, but, you know, thank God that's in the past and we've both kind of moved on from that thing. We both kind of grew out of that stuff. Now, you also you also struggled in your youth with, with weight. Correct? Yeah. Alright. So, and, I think you were 12 if I remember in your bio correctly. You were 12 and you were struggling with obesity. How did that struggle build the discipline, you need, or or or how did it bring you to bodybuilding? Poetry, music, you know? Well, you know,
[00:33:00] Unknown:
I had a doctor tell me, you know, because I was I'm only five foot three. And at at that time, I was 12 years old at about two hundred thirty pounds. So I was quite big. I was you could say I was morbidly obese. Yeah. And, a doctor told me that I'm not gonna live past 30 if I don't do something about it. And, that woke me up. And then it started me to go to the library, start reading about, you know, the nutritional books, the ones with the thick layer of dust on them that has that's based in scientific fact. Right. And, after my studying, I learned that even the food pyramid perhaps is wrong. And I started experimenting with food, and then that's when I also started getting into bodybuilding. And I loved it because it fulfilled a creative, urge in me to shape and mold the body as if it were a piece of clay.
It's it's a beautiful thing to me at least is at least. Yeah. And it it still disciplined me because I wanted to keep going back to to the gym. I I I I I I mean, I had the what? Last year, I didn't miss a single day at the gym. I went all three sixty five. Yeah.
[00:34:05] Unknown:
I gotta give you credit for that. I I I I did one of those I did one of those, extreme workouts, those ninety day extreme workout things. And it was great. I did it the ninety days, seven days a week. It was it was killer. I don't want to go back to that. I really don't. I'm gonna have to though. I've gained I've gained some weight over the last couple of months. But, but, yeah. I need to do something like that soon. But, I I need that discipline. I don't have it. Right now, I don't have it. I got way too many other things going on. But, one of the things I also wanted to talk to you about too is your poetry.
You you you you sent me a copy of some of your work and I appreciate that. It was really really good to read. You don't really get that style of poetry today at all. I do. It's Beowulf, you know, that style of epic poetry that's the easiest reference I can give somebody to have them understand what I'm talking about. If you've ever read Beowulf, this is the type of work that you're trying to revive in here in this twenty first century because it is being forgotten. Why do you think that epic poetry still really matters And, and what are you doing to work how much work are you putting into this to bring it back?
[00:35:16] Unknown:
Well, the Amazons took me a little over two years to write, and it's only 46,000 words. It's I I had to invent my own poetic, language, basically, LLP linked lyrical poetry in order to make it work. I came across, when I was reading TS Eliot on Poets and Poetry. He's he said in there that it has to be interpreted by the day that it's written. So today, the youth, so Gen z, Gen alpha that's coming, they need to be able to understand it. You know, in their minds, they'd be able to say, if I was to speak in poetry, this is how it would sound. Now if you hold Beowulf to that, nope.
If you hold The Iliad and The Odyssey to that, nope. Shakespeare, not not a clue. Right. You have oftentimes have to have someone explain Shakespeare to you. Yeah. So I needed to rewrite something that they can understand. And and even if they don't understand the word, at least quick look it up and then keep going on. Yeah.
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And it's a great story. I I read I'm I'm not gonna say I read the whole thing. I read the majority of it though. And, it's a great series from what I've from what I'm picking up from it. My question to those, what really drove you to, to write it? Especially to especially, to address the lack of feminine representation in in in a hero's journey?
[00:36:37] Unknown:
Well, in 2010, when I had my daughter, I wanted to enroll her in my love of poetry and a lot of those works, you know. And then that's when I realized, why would a young girl want to read any of this for her? Other than maybe the school assigns it to her and then forces her to read it and write a report on it, perhaps. But other than that, you know, there's nothing in it for for them. You know? They can't even relate, like I said. So why would Gen Z, Gen Alpha want to read that, especially a female?
[00:37:06] Unknown:
Now, for this particular poem, like you mentioned, you you've you've basically developed your own, style of storytelling, your own poetry, linked lyrical poetry, like you mentioned. Can you explain that to us? What exactly is linked lyrical poetry? And why do you think that it really resonates with with the younger generations like Gen Z, Gen Alpha?
[00:37:30] Unknown:
Because it's a it's very close to rap music. Mhmm. And everyone listens to that, and it's so close to rap music. They're used to hearing it then. So it makes sense to them. They're used to the constant beat and the rhyme, the beat and the rhyme, the beat and the rhyme versus a number of poetry that has different pentameters in it, then you're waiting for the rhyme, then you're waiting for the rhyme, then you're waiting. So if they understand it easier because they've I guarantee you they've heard rap music. That's interesting that you say that too. That has that rhyme, the rhythm, the meter of it. Because Yeah.
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You know, I like I use that exact that same exact phraseology when I talk about the Bible. Alright? I I I am a King James guy. I love my King James Bible. I'll never use anything else but a King James Bible. And people tell me that, oh, it's an old archaic book and how do you understand it and all that stuff. Well, I understand it because I read it, first of all. Second of all, if I don't understand something, I go to Webster's 1828 dictionary because that has the best definitions of those old English words. Yep. But what helps me to understand it is the fact that it is written with that certain rhyme, rhythm, and meter. It's easy to read. It's easy to memorize, and it's easy to recite. So I I It resonates with your soul. Exactly. Exactly right. And, so I understand when you say that exactly right. I I agree with you a 100%.
So what was the creative process like, developing LLP and then and then using it in the Amazons?
[00:38:59] Unknown:
Well, it's very time consuming. I mean, it's not uncommon to sit there for an hour and only be able to write one paragraph. Mhmm. I often, compare it to, like, you know, normal writing, like a brick layer, brick laying a brick wall. You know, one brick after another, they're all the same. There's rules. There's regulations. He knows what he has to do. Right. But with LLP running in this format, it takes more creativity. So it's like a natural fuel zone wall. Every every rock is different, every shape is different, and you need to piece them together.
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It's more time consuming. Do you see that do you see LLP becoming, more of a standard in poetry going forward?
[00:39:39] Unknown:
It can be if people have the discipline to do it. Like I said, it's very time consuming and I'm not, you know, I I'm looking into, you know, making classes in the future for people that are willing to do it, but it is very time consuming. Especially to write, like, 46,000 words, story, you know, using nothing but. Yeah.
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Alright. Cool. So can you give us an idea what the Amazon's is about? Give us, like, a synopsis of it.
[00:40:02] Unknown:
Well, basically and and this isn't in the book. Okay? Because there is a series I will I will say this for the people that are interested. There is a Jack Genesee senior that discovered a map, okay, an old scroll that was written by Herodotus in the, British Museum. And this is back in the early eighteen hundreds during the Napoleonic War. Okay? And, the the there's a lot of rumors that they were bankrupt. The Brits were bankrupt back then. So in this scroll, there was a promise of gold, and he piqued the queen's interest. She funded a expedition to the Amazon to see if they could get their hands on it. Almost everybody died, except him and four other people Mhmm. That they're aware of. Very or very few people survived. Some went back to the boat.
And he wound up falling in love with the Amazon queen, and they had a daughter. And he found his way back to England, back to London, and he sent his son when he was on his deathbed, he sent his son to send this, you know, love letter to the queen.
[00:41:09] Unknown:
And he he showed up and found out that he had Amazon's sister, and that this story just progresses from there. Wow. It it's a great story. And like I said, I I've read the most of what you sent me and, I would really encourage everybody to to to pick it up and to read this thing. And it is really, really well written and it it I'll be honest with you, it did take me a little bit to get used to the the style of writing, and then there's at some point you actually you kinda it almost goes to almost like a script format. Right? So so which which kind of threw me off a little bit at first but and then but then it made sense.
I went back, I reread it and I looked at it again. I said, okay, well I understand it now. This makes sense. Now, I'm not a big rap guy. I'm not a, you know, hip hop guy. So I don't, you know, I'm not really familiar with that style. But, it it but once once I got the rhythm of it, it read really well. And I think it I did think it did a fantastic job with it and and I don't know how you came up with this idea of LLP. Well, it got me the nickname on the indie market as the spell caster because of the way it makes people feel and the way it sounds. Yeah. It and it's it's actually, when you when you really look at it, it it it's it's, for lack of a better word, it's a beautiful script.
It really is. And, so I I appreciate that you let you gave me the opportunity to read it. Now, you also have a graphic novel series, called, Sigma Squad, and that that that comes out of the the, the Gnostic gospels. And, and you really get into a lot of themes like the deep state and and whatnot. And so so what woke you up to that in 2020 to create that kind of narrative? Well,
[00:42:50] Unknown:
I think we also are. Just how easily everyone donned a mask without question. And I'm you know, in my mind, I'm taken aback. I'm like, really? That's that's your answer? You're and then, of course, then there were the people that called everyone out that did wear a mask. You know, that was even worse. So I'm like, I I I try to think the best of humanity, but it showed me that, wow, they really are asleep. Yeah. You know? So we need to do something about it. That's why I decided to start writing that. Yeah. Oh, yeah. And I remember that vividly. I work, I work in a in a health care facility,
[00:43:21] Unknown:
in a nursing facility. And so, of course, you know, that was very very stringently followed regulation and whatnot. It made no sense to me whatsoever and I'll tell you why it makes sense to me. And my point was proven because, part of my job is I had to deal with biohazard material. Okay? And, we were boxing everything and we had to we had to don the whole, I call it the marshmallow suit, you know, the whole thing had to coat Yes. I know exactly what you're talking about. Yeah. With the with the with the respirator mask, the gloves, the the face shields, and all that stuff and I still got sick. Even covered head to toe like that, I still got sick.
It none of that stuff worked. And now, of course, it's all coming out that, oh, well, well, we never said it worked. Yeah. You did. You know? And, and then of course, you know, all the all the threats of, you know, you're gonna get fired if you don't get the vaccines, if you're gonna all that stuff, which was absolutely I held out to the very very last day. I thank God I did not take any of that mRNA gene therapy.
[00:44:29] Unknown:
It's not a vaccine. I was I was forced retired. I didn't wanna retire. I was forced retired on the mission because I refused to take it. Yeah. Oh, wow. I didn't see. I didn't I didn't get that in your bio. Okay.
[00:44:39] Unknown:
That's interesting. It's, it's it's really it it was a very very strange, very awkward, very dark time.
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It was. It was.
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And you know, it's and I think we're still feeling the repercussions of that today. There are still people that I see driving around in their cars by themselves wearing face masks. Yes. You know, which is I have a question. Their sanity. Yeah. Well, you know, not only the fact that they're doing it now, but even then you're in the car by yourself. What are you wearing a mask for? I know. And I mean, I and I can honestly say look there there were times because you know you I had to wear it as part of my job that I walked out of work, punched out, got in my car, started pulling out of the parking lot and realized I still had the stupid thing on my face. I get that, but it was quick. It wasn't like I didn't drive, you know, all around the all around the neighborhood like that. It was it's and but you see but you still see it today and people are still afraid of this of this, this virus.
Yeah. It's still a thing like still at my job, they still, you know, require us, you know, if if you get a sniffle to take a COVID test to make sure you But I think you gotta use the air quotes virus. Yeah. Well, I yeah. Yeah. I thought I did. But yeah. But you get. It's one of those it's just one of those crazy periods of time that I don't think I'm hoping that enough people have woken up at this point that if they try to pull something like this again, enough people will see it for what it really is.
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Yeah. They will.
[00:46:04] Unknown:
And, and I know I know that they've been talking about this thing. Are you familiar with Agenda '23? 02/1930? Yes. I am. Yeah. That's all all that stuff is starting to, you know, to come to fruition. And as much as I love my president, as much as I love what Donald Trump is doing, I don't agree with everything, but I think he's doing a fantastic job and I wouldn't want anybody else in the White House at this point. But, the the the globalists are gonna do everything they can to push a worldwide global government on us. That's that's, first of all, that's biblical. That's clearly defined in scripture. And you see So, revelations happens whether we like it or not. Yeah. Exactly. Exactly. And, it's it's like, I heard a movie one time, you know, some things are true whether you believe them or not. And, that's what it is. But this agenda 2030 is, you know, you're you're, you know, by 2030, you're gonna own nothing and you're gonna be happy.
Well, if you're not gonna own anything, who owns everything? You know, think about that. Who's gonna own all that stuff? Who are you paying Black rock. Yeah. Black rock. Who are you paying rent to? Who who's, you know, the communal cars. They don't want you to have a car, so they'll have one car for 18 people. You have to share the car. It's crazy stuff, but it's all it's it's it's that whole thing with the pandemic was, was designed to prepare us for the next step in their whole plan of global dominance. I know it sounds, you know, a little out there, but but that's the way it is.
Unfortunately, that's the truth and that's the way I see it happening. And I am way off my target here. I don't know why I don't know why we're going this way, but, so, I want to talk to you about the the Angelics. Alright? Okay. Very, very impressed with the music. Like I said earlier, really impressed with this stuff. And this it reminds me of stuff that I would listen to in my youth. You know, I was very much into that style of music. I love that stuff. Well, that we're intentionally doing that. That's which is great because that it needs to be now. People have to understand, you know, that type of of of of rock music it had such a stigma attached to it back then. Now, but it it is such a specific talent that you need for that.
Some of the greatest bands like, Manowar. I love Manowar. And and, some of the sounds that I've heard that your band had put out reminded me of Manowar. You know, early Metallica, you know, that stuff was Yeah. That stuff was amazing music when you go back and listen to it now. And and you guys are bringing that forward. Now, you're the lead guitarist for the for this band, the Angelics. So how does how does how does, your poetry tie into your musical journey?
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Well, if you'll listen to the lyrics, every every song I write is is is a poem. Okay? If you break it down, and it's it's there it go hand in hand. And they're that's what's making it so, shall we say, spectacular. And it's resonating with people more because of the way it's written.
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I'm gonna play I'm gonna play a sample of a track that you sent me. This is the Adjusters. Alright. So tell tell us a little bit about this song and where you where you got the inspiration for this.
[00:49:23] Unknown:
Well, I mean, we all see it happening. The, you know, a a thumbtack has been put in the societal zeitgeist of, society. And and we see CEOs being taken out, you know. And and it's so that's why I decided to write a song about it is to make people aware of what's going on. Yeah. So here's here's a little bit of, of the adjusters.
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I like that. Nice. So who's the vocalist?
[00:50:27] Unknown:
Leo. Playing no game. It's, me, Leo, on vocals, Max on keyboards, and Ellis on drums. And how long have you guys been playing? Not long. I hired them actually as contractors six months ago to help me with other projects.
[00:50:45] Unknown:
Oh, wow. Isn't it crazy how that happens? You just connect that way? That's good. He's got a great voice, man. So I've listened to this track probably four times, since you sent it over to me and, I actually I probably should have told you I was going to do it first, but I actually sent it to a friend of mine and I want I wanted his opinion on it because he is he is, he's very very picky about the music that he listens to and, he got back to me on this and he was like, dude, who is this? So, so I so so hopefully, you know, when your album comes out, I'll be able to I'll tell him and he'll be able to go get it. But this is this is great stuff and, wow. Really, really talented band, just amazing stuff. I love music. I love all kinds of music. Yeah. And this really I don't know. Just something about the I think the arrangement itself just kind of spoke to me a little bit.
Kind of felt it. You know, I don't know if that makes sense to to somebody who's not really the music.
[00:52:12] Unknown:
Intentionally targeting Gen x Mhmm. The eighties genre to try to spark some nostalgia perhaps.
[00:52:19] Unknown:
So we're intentionally doing that. Mission accomplished, my friend. Mission accomplished. At least at least with me. So, so, so you you got together with this band in what? 02/2025. So it was this year. You got together Oh, six months. Six months ago. Six months ago. And, so what's the vision you have for the first album?
[00:52:42] Unknown:
Wake people up. Okay. Wake people up. Shock a little a few. Shock a few. I I I know being conservative and some of the things that we are singing about might come under scrutiny. So I'm expecting some pushback, but we'll see. You know? But I'm sure you've you've experienced that yourself being, you know, conservative minded. You know, anytime you go to the media, you get pushed back. Yeah. All the time. But, you know what?
[00:53:06] Unknown:
I'd I'd look at it like, you have your opinions. I have my opinions. If we can't agree, that's fine. There's no reason to argue. There's no reason to fight over it. Just laugh about it and move on. And, that's what I try to do. I don't I don't, you know, if some liberal nutcase wants to come over and start screaming in my face, yeah, okay. Yeah, that's fine. Look, I spent twenty plus years in law enforcement in New York City. I've seen a lot. I've experienced a lot. I've gotten yelled at a lot. I've gotten cursed at a lot. Nothing really fazes me anymore. I I just I just You aren't doing your job if you're not getting yelled at. That's right. You know what? And we used to say that all the time. If if they're not complaining about you, you're not doing your job right.
Yeah. Especially in law enforcement because you're not gonna complain if if they're if a blind eye is being turned to everything that you're doing. You're gonna complain if they're enforcing the rules and enforcing the laws. So, yeah. It it but great great stuff. Let's see what else I got for you. Your near death experience and, Sigma Squad's Gnostic roots touch on spiritual and the paranormal. Now, I love paranormal stuff, so I wanna talk to you more about the near death experiences, paranormal stuff. And, now, I had a I had a a couple on the show a few months ago already. Wow. That was that was that long ago.
They have they have a podcast called Creepy Coffees Podcast and their paranormal their husband and wife paranormal investigative team. We had a great time, a great conversation, a lot of fun. And, so I love talking about this stuff. Since since the NDE, I know you said you've had some experiences. Can you talk about any of those experiences that you had? Anything that really stuck out with you? Anything that really impacted you?
[00:54:50] Unknown:
Well, when I was younger, it stuck with me, the paranormal experiences. But once puberty hit, it seemed to die down a lot. So prior to it, I was seeing, like, white balls of light come towards me, and then they would manifest into what I perceived as dead people. They were ghosts. And there were always the black mists that I would see, but they're always, like, far away. They would never come close. Okay. And but once puberty hit, a lot of it died down, but I was and still to this day, I'm still very much an empath, and I'll feel, positive and negative energies.
When I was in Italy, when I was still serving, I was stationed at Aviano in Italy and, went at a tour of castles because I love castles. And there was one that we came to and I I start you know, my my, Scooby sense, I I call it, kicked up, like, a mile down the Road. And I'm like, what's going on? And I started seeing visions of torture and murder, and and and we came to this old castle. And I'm like, oh my gosh. There was a lot of negative things that happened in that place that I couldn't I couldn't force myself to go in. Really? Wow. Because I I was it still lingered there. There was still a lot of negative entities still in there. Yeah. Well, first of all, I'm not surprised that you like castles.
[00:56:04] Unknown:
Yeah. The style of poetry, the music, I'm not surprised you like castles. But I I know what you're saying too. I I've had my share of experiences with paranormal stuff. As a matter of fact, in this house that I'm living in now, I've had my fair share of, of experiences. One story that I had and I didn't think of it, I just thought of it now, is I have a video. It was from, I want to say, maybe six months ago, seven months ago maybe. It was in my kitchen and I had I have an island in my kitchen and I have this, this ice cube stamp. Yeah, I'm like that. I like the ice cube stamps. So, I had this ice cube stamp and, I hadn't used it. It was just sitting in in on the back end of the island.
And, I was in the kitchen and I was just kind of moving some stuff around and I turned around and I noticed that it wasn't where I had put it. Like, it had moved from the the far the far back. I wish I had the video to show you. It would move had moved from the far back and it moved forward maybe about a foot. Okay? So, I'm looking at it and then I see it move very slightly. This little slide. I look to see that there's no water. There's nothing on the thing. It's bone dry. Grab my phone. I start recording this thing and it's continued to slide and I have the video of it sliding across the the top of the island And I cannot explain it. I I don't know where how that happened. There's I'm sure people can look at it and say, well, you know, it's the angle and the thing. And, you know, it's metal on marble. It's always a crane. Yeah. There's always somebody.
But, no, man. That thing that thing was moving by itself, and, I had other experiences here in this place that, kind of interesting. Like, I have my two kids, my French bulldogs, my kids. We were here in the studio and, this is before I did the renovation on the house. And in the kitchen, I had their food bowls up against this partition that I had that separated the the living room from the dining room. And, I I kept their food bowls along that partition. And, when my mom was alive, I had told her when I first moved in here, this is, you know, how I set the whole thing up. And, she was like, well, I don't like them over there. Should put them on the other side of the wall. I mean, because people are gonna trip over them. I'm like, well, who's coming here? Nobody comes here. It was just me. So my mom lived back up in New York. I was down here. So it's like, you know, nobody's coming.
So anyway, so one day, I'm I'm in the studio here. Mom mom had passed away and, I was in the studio. I was just messing around with some stuff. The dogs were in here with me and I heard metal scraping across the floor. And I got up and I looked and the dogs were standing by the door to the studio and they would they didn't go out of the room, but they were both, like, craning their necks looking out the door and my girl, her hair all the hair in her back was standing straight up. And, I went out there and I looked. I didn't have my phone with me, but I went out and looked and the metal food bowls that I had for them were slid from where I kept them to the other side of the kitchen where where my mom said to put them in the first place.
So, I found my phone. I called my sister and I'm telling my sister this. She goes, oh, that's mommy. She's just messing with you. And I'm like, yeah. You know, that's that creeped me out. But, but it's mom, so I don't you know, not too bad. But the fact that it happened creeped me out. And then there was one other time, back in New York. I just moved into this house we bought from an estate sale. And, the previous owners, original owners, both passed away in the house, you know, many years apart from each other. And, I was up in the master bedroom with my wife at the time. We were making the bed and kids were out, windows were closed, it was summer, the ACs were on, you know, the central air was on, so no outside sounds or noises.
And, we're I'm on one side of the bed, she's on the other. She she both lift the sheet up to pull it and go to pull it down. And, when we did that, clear as day, we both heard a woman's voice say, who is that? And when it came and when it came down, she looked at me, I looked at her, I was like, you heard that? She goes, I heard something, what did you hear? Oh, you tell me first. You know, and she told me and I was like, yeah. That's exactly what I heard. That was the only time I heard that. Another one other time I was we were unpacking in the kitchen and the stove was on the other side from where I was standing. My back was to it and just out of nowhere, the glass in the front of the stove shattered.
Bought a replacement. Put it on. Shout it again. Had had to replace it twice. So lots of crazy stuff. And then, of course, I I take it to the extreme and, I get myself, one of those cameras that have the night vision and I plant and I and I and I send them out for the weekend and I go down the basement. I'm sitting down there with no power on the night vision just looking at everything. So, yeah. Yeah. So, I've had my share of experiences, you know, up until recently actually. So, it's been very interesting. But the paranormal stuff always intrigued me. And, now, with near death experiences, like I said, I've never experienced one myself.
And, so, and at seven years old to experience that, like I said earlier, it has to be traumatic, and, but you hear so many stories about people who have these things and, like, and like we said before, it's everybody's a little bit a little bit of a different story. Yours was probably one of the more common stories that I've heard. I've heard horror stories about some of these things, you know. Yeah. As of I, yes. You know, so, do you do you think there's any real validity to these things, these these near depths? Or or do you think this is just something that happens biologically in your brain? This is something that you may have heard or or or or was taught or seen some place? Do you you know where I'm going?
[01:02:07] Unknown:
Well, okay. And this is something that a lot of people say that that had NDEs as well. When you're over there, there's a feeling of love that's indescribable. You I cannot describe it to you with words. Easiest or closest thing I could think of is when you're a child and your mother hugs you, you know, and you're you feel safe and warm and everything's okay. But it's it's so much more amplified to that. And and it's something we all, a lot of us, have experienced. We've all felt the same thing. Yeah. Okay. So why why is that? You know, why why are we all feeling this love? You know, because it exists.
And there's no doubt in my mind that that exists. I I I miss it every day, you know. And I know someday I'll go back to it. I'll have it back. But this effect that not only does it exist in my in my purview, it exists in everyone else's ahead of NDE. Why are we all saying this? You know? Yeah. Yeah. It it's it is no doubt in my mind that that realm exists. And it it's not just in another place, it's all around us. How do you It's all around us. How do you see the
[01:03:18] Unknown:
the, I guess, the interplay, of of, metaphysics and culture shaping in today's world?
[01:03:29] Unknown:
I often look at it like it's a, you know, a big monopoly game. It's a a game of and I wrote a song about this, a game of shadows and light. You know? If you could think of, like, the lions in Africa hiding their prey. Okay? The ones that are lying the people that are lying, stealing, cheating are the ones the lions are going after. They're the demons they're going after. Okay? They're manipulating. They're the ones that they're getting. You know? The ones that's ahead of the pack because at the head of the pack, they can't even get to them. Okay? It's very much, the way it plays out, in my opinion. You know? We see someone that lived till 80, maybe 90 years old, lie, steal, cheat you know, steal their steal their entire life.
And we think, oh, they got away with it. No. They didn't get away with it. They just were a player and and, you know, a cog in in the whole game. Okay? They were allowed to do that because they they were helping them. But they're still yeah. It it's it's a matter of realizing where you're at, honestly, in the game and then learning to elevate, become better than you are. And that's why I always talk about, like, have you ever ever read, like, Power versus Force by doctor Hawkins?
[01:04:42] Unknown:
Not read it, but I know of it.
[01:04:44] Unknown:
Okay. If you do you know anything of the map of consciousness that he Yes. He okay. Often compared to it like that, you know, it's like people come to me with, you know, like, hey, man. This guy cut me off of traffic today. I'm so pissed off. I'm like, well, he's probably at the lower level of consciousness. You under you need to understand that he's acting as where he's at on that map. You know? Do you get mad at a dog for barking? Because he's at that a certain level, he's getting a mat I get mad at a cat for meowing. You understand where they're at. You need to understand where people are at on that map of consciousness and look at our act accordingly. Of course, Jesus was at the top. Right. But you need to understand the people at the at the lower level are gonna act at the lower level. I'm sure you saw them every day as a cop. Did you not? Oh, yeah.
[01:05:29] Unknown:
You should.
[01:05:30] Unknown:
I could tell you a story. So, I mean, you need to understand. So don't get and don't get mad about it. Don't get upset about it. These people exist. They're just at the lower level. Do what you can to help them, but don't let them draw you down. Yeah. Oh, that that that's great advice. I mean, you you you don't go down to their level. You gotta bring you gotta try to bring them up.
[01:05:47] Unknown:
And the way you bring them up is by communicating. You talk to them. Yeah. You you try to guide them as as they move through these these different stages and different levels. So it it Yeah. You know, it it's I I just had I had an idea in my head. It just flipped out of my head. But,
[01:06:07] Unknown:
Well, I often look at it like Yeah. It's gone. A lighthouse, you know? Yeah. It it's you know, and and the lighthouse is just a lighthouse and it's just standing there doing what it does. When the bolts of troubled water are ready to come in, they'll look towards you, the lighthouse, for guidance, you know. But, it's not it's not forcing them to come to shore. They have to make the conscious decision to come to shore.
[01:06:30] Unknown:
Shore. I'm looking to see if I could find the, map of consciousness, like an image of it at least. Here we go. Let's see if this Let me see if I can get this to screen share. So
[01:06:59] Unknown:
now I think people need to start understanding not only where they're at on that map, but where other people they're interacting with, you know, on that map. And, you know, because you always hear about, you know, people do something that that's so horrific, you can't happen to understand, you know, a question. Are they even human? Well, they're at the lower level, of course. So they're gonna act accordingly. Yeah. Hurt people hurt others.
[01:07:26] Unknown:
I'm just I'm still trying to pull this thing up. It's like let me see if there we go. Okay. And the screen share, because maybe you could, explain a little bit about this map here.
[01:07:48] Unknown:
Okay. When you encounter people that are obviously at the lower levels, you know, understand that they're gonna speak two different two different languages, especially if you're at the upper levels. Okay? So a person at the lower level, if you wrong them, you hurt them, they're gonna want revenge. They're gonna act out. They wanna fight you versus someone that's at the upper levels is going to maybe turn turn the cheek. And the person at the lower level is gonna see you as weak, call call your names, you know, as you walk away and not wanna fight them. So you're you're speaking two different language and you understand, how to react with them and not and not get yourself involved. So don't go down to their level.
Keep yourself at at this current level, but pity them. Okay? You know, say a prayer for them. If they need help, help them, but don't let them drag you down. Okay? Don't let them keep them in your prayers. That's all I could say. Keep them in your prayers and help them as much as you can.
[01:08:48] Unknown:
This stuff is this stuff is fascinating stuff and,
[01:08:53] Unknown:
I really need to study this. This is really interesting. Like, I've I've seen the map. I've seen this this chart. Yeah. But I know One thing that's it is effective and it's they'll do it at war too, at at wartime when, like, GIs maybe are missing a limb or something like that. They're poor you'll see doctors actually purposely because they'll be in the lower levels of guilt, same empathy, grief, purposely piss them off. Because all of a sudden then they level up to anger, and it's at least it's better than where they were at if you could piss them off. Mhmm. Because it's it's bringing them up. It's it then, you know, when you're pissed off, you're like, okay. I'm I'm not gonna die. I'm gonna, you know, I'm gonna live to fight you. At least it's something better than what it was. And it it actually can help. It's small doses that is anger.
[01:09:42] Unknown:
That's interesting. Wow. I really have to study this. This is the like I said, I've I've seen the map. I've I've seen this chart many, many times, but I never really studied it, like, carefully looked at it. Were you saying anger? So the predominant emotional state, hate, antagonistic is the view of life, vengeful, aggression.
[01:10:02] Unknown:
And then But, you know, think about if someone was at the the shame level, someone was at the bottom all of a sudden, and you intentionally piss them off to get them at a higher level. You're helping them.
[01:10:13] Unknown:
Yeah. And, it's and it's not necessarily a step by step process either. You can go from shame to anger. Just like
[01:10:23] Unknown:
like at at Every day, it's you're different at a different level every day. Yeah. But you need to be conscious of it and and do your best to make your way up to the higher levels.
[01:10:33] Unknown:
Oh, this is fascinating, man. We I I would really like to talk to you off the show more about this stuff to get a better grasp of it. But this is And there's also a correlation between that and Maslow's hierarchy of needs.
[01:10:45] Unknown:
So, you know, people at the lower level of that and at the higher level of that involves there's a there's a correlation. You you'll see if we can put them, like, side by side.
[01:10:52] Unknown:
Alright, Peter. So where could, what's what's new? What's next for you? What's the big thing? What's coming down the road?
[01:10:59] Unknown:
Well, the album's coming out September 1, and we also have so it's gonna be, eighties rock, eighties styles rock. We also have a lighter side, so, like, love songs from the eighties that were gonna come out, put out a separate album. So you could take your pick, you know, whichever style you like. And then let's see here. I'm currently I have about 30 voice actors hired, and we're redoing the Amazon's audiobook. My, very talented producer slash director, Andrea Giordani, and who is also the most talented voice actress I've ever met, is helping me by putting it all together for me. And we're hoping by Christmas, it will be out. It'll basically it would take the story, and it'll make it sound like you're listening to a movie because we put put in, all the sound effects that would needed to be in the story. Alright. This is very time consuming.
[01:11:52] Unknown:
Well, doing an audiobook, I'm sure, is no slow no light challenge either. I'm sure that's gonna that's its own shit. But I have a great team behind me. Yeah. And how many people you said it takes to do this? 30?
[01:12:04] Unknown:
Well, right now, I have 12 people working for me to help out. Yes.
[01:12:11] Unknown:
Well, God bless you, brother. This is great work. I I I'm really impressed. I I really I truly am. The the book, the Amazons, you you got folks, you got to get it. You got to check it out. And, be prepared for it. It's, you know, prepare yourself to read this thing. It's not an easy read. You got to really pay attention to what you're reading, but it's great stuff. It's going to be a blessing to you. And then, Sigma Squad, I haven't checked that out yet, but I'm going to. And then, really looking forward to the album coming out, brother. I really am the angelics. That is great. And thank you for the tracks that you sent sent over to me. So so where are we gonna be able to get all your stuff?
[01:12:47] Unknown:
Well, you go to www.petergun.net for most of my books and, and podcasts. And then we well, you just caught us at the, fledgling stage, shall we say, of the band. So I just bought the angelics.com.
[01:13:03] Unknown:
We haven't put anything up on the website, but I will put updates on my website about the band. Well, if you're in the fledgling running. If you're in the fledgling stage with the band, it sure doesn't sound like that when you listen to your music.
[01:13:15] Unknown:
It's and honestly We're all professionals. We we've all done this before. This is old hat. So, I mean, it's like bam riding a bike for us. Yeah. Well, yeah. But but even so, I mean
[01:13:26] Unknown:
I mean, it sounds like you guys been playing together for a very, very long time. There's there's that synchronicity between you guys that just sounds fantastic. So, you know, fledgling or not, I think you got a I think you got a bright future ahead of you there with that, pal. Oh, thank you. Thank you. I really do. I really do. And I wish you all the best with that and I look forward to, catching up with you again. Alright, Peter. So, we'll make sure we have all of your links and everything in the show notes. We're already there and, I know you sent me a graphic that I'm gonna include, if I if I can in the show notes. If not, then I'll definitely put all the information about the band, in there as I as we said.
And, I'm looking forward to it. You gotta get back to me, by the way, at that one track I asked you about. Okay. Will do. Because I I that's I really I like, I wanna play it, but I don't wanna play it yet. So I you know, because I wanna do it my way. Okay. Alright. Peter Gunn. Oh, by the way, real name or stage name?
[01:14:20] Unknown:
Stage name. Okay. Because long ago, I opt into I played, blackjack with James Gandolfini. And I asked him if he had to do it all over again. What would he do? He said, change your name, kid.
[01:14:34] Unknown:
So I'm taking his advice. Alright. James Gandolfini tells you to change change your name. Yeah. Yeah. And he kept his and well, okay. That's great. Alright. He had a lot of paparazzi problems. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I'm sure he did. I I, you know, I I I remember watching him when he first started rolling around, in his first roles and I thought I said, oh, this guy's gonna be good. This guy's gonna be something. And, yeah, he he it's a it's a shame that he passed away so young. That was just that was terrible. Yeah. He did. That's a shame. Alright. Peter Gunn, thank you so much for spending your evening with us and, I look forward to talking to you again very, very soon. I'll shoot you a text after the show. Watch your that. Take care, Joe. Take care, brother. God bless you. Alright, folks. This is the Joe Russo.
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[01:22:27] Unknown:
Song and bring the sunny weather. Happy trails
[01:22:33] Unknown:
to you. To remain
