In this episode of the No Pill Podcast, host Andrew Hoffman delves into the complexities of economic policies, particularly focusing on the impact of tariffs and trade imbalances. He discusses the systemic issues with the current trade system, highlighting how it has led to significant wealth transfer from the United States to other countries. Hoffman explores the rationale behind tariffs, arguing that they are necessary to correct the unfair advantages held by countries with persistent trade surpluses. The conversation touches on the broader implications of these economic strategies, including national security and the need for a balanced trade system to enhance the living standards of Americans.
Shifting gears, the episode also tackles the controversial topic of vaccines, particularly the MMR vaccine, and its role in public health. Hoffman critiques recent statements by public figures, including RFK Jr., regarding the effectiveness of vaccines, and discusses the broader implications of vaccine policies on public health. The episode features insights from various experts, including Dr. Sherry Tenpenny, who argues against the safety and necessity of vaccines, labeling them as harmful. The discussion extends to the ethical concerns surrounding vaccine ingredients and the historical context of vaccine mandates, ultimately questioning the sustainability and morality of current public health strategies.
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Andrew Hoffman:
Hello, everybody. Thank you for listening to the No Pill podcast, episode nine, pediatric poisoning, podcasting from Sunny, but chemtrailed, Piedmont, Oklahoma. I'm Andrew Hoffman. And today, we'd we got some economic stuff to talk about. And then, of course, you know, there's big news in Mahaland. It's the April 8, so we just had the Kennedy post about how wonderful the MMR vaccine is at presenting at preventing measles and the the predictable backlash from that. And we've got the the Trump tariffs going into effect and the predictable backlash from that. So let's let's start out.
If you're like me, you you know what tariffs are, but, you know, not not completely and and what's the purpose. It's got something to do with the trade balance, but let's let's just, get some information on on if they're here to stay and then also what they are, what the I what the theory behind it is.
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Why is it important to do this, to institute tariffs, to rethink trade? I I think you have to start with a proposition,
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has the system failed? And to me, it's an emphatic yes. I think of it in sort of two two ways. One, if you think of the the way trade is supposed to work, you're supposed to export in order to import that, and then you get the benefit of trade. You get actually you you do what you do best. I do what I do best, or I do what you do less best. Right. You export we import and we get the benefit. We both have higher standards of living. That's not really what's it's evolved to. It's evolved to now where you have a few countries, The United States being the biggest, that have an open capital system and an open trading system, and other countries have an industrial policy that is designed not to increase the standard of living of their, citizens, but to gain wealth. So what they're trying to do is is get wealth in order to get assets in The United States or to get technology, in order to get all these kind of things that that make you wealthy.
So so so I think of the the kind of failure points as being one, because this system doesn't work, we have this giant transfer of wealth from The United States overseas and that is in the form, of trade deficits. And the way the system is supposed to work, no one should have large trade deficits for long periods of time. Things can happen. You can do it. You could have trade deficits with one country, surplus with another. But the notion of a country having hundreds of billions of dollars of trade deficits every year is not how it's supposed to work. We now are to the point where our trade deficits, they they calculate them at about seven or eight hundred billion dollars If you did it the way you or I would do in a sensible way, you'd probably be, at a trillion or a trillion and a quarter dollars. So that's a transfer of wealth from Americans overseas in return for current consumption.
And it has nothing to do with economics since it's entirely the result of industrial policy of other people and our being defenseless. Donald Trump's essence is we're getting he says we're getting ripped off. Our our workers are getting screwed. It's not because they're lazy or stupid, it's because we have a bad system that is hurting them and it's destabilizing the country. And all of these are data points that kind of make that point. And once you realize that, you realize you have to do something. Right? The purpose of the economy, first of all, obviously, is national security. But after that, it's to distribute resources and wealth so that most Americans live the best lives they can live and we have lost that. We have just plain lost it. What we really need, I've evolved to, is balanced trade.
We need a system that enforces kind of trade balance, not with countries, but globally. Countries shouldn't be able to be huge surplus countries year after year like China, of course, being the worst example, but also Germany. Ireland is evolving to that, and there's a bunch of other countries we could talk about. Countries shouldn't be able to do that, and so you say, well, how do you achieve that? You really need to put in place, I would say, some kind of tariffs to offset this fundamental unfairness. You're not just offsetting their tariffs. Europe's 10 Percent on autos. We're doing half percent. If Europe went to zero, we still wouldn't sell very many cars in Europe. We just wouldn't. Our companies basically make small trucks. They don't need them there. I mean, it's just there's a lot of reasons why that wouldn't happen.
But what you need, you can't have countries have huge trade surpluses over long periods of time. You have to enforce and you have to penalize countries that have surpluses all the time
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and and let countries that have deficits all the time get back to balance. If you do that, you then get the benefits of trade. If you take a system that's been in place for generations, which the current one has been, even if it doesn't work well, even if it hurts your country, changing it is still or changing anything that's been in place a long time is still a major lift, and it has, you know, turmoil that accompanies it. So can you just be more specific about what sort of turmoil you anticipate as this administration puts into place this new system? First of all, I have complete confidence that the president will do what he said he's gonna do. Right? And and,
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and unlike, a lot of politicians, he ran on, like, real substance and big ideas, and this is probably the biggest of the ideas that he ran on. And I think he's gonna follow through on his promises because that's the most important thing. The worst case would be that he doesn't. So so what you have to do is put in place tariffs, as I say, to offset not just tariffs. That's a tiny thing. I just keep going back to this point because it's so fundamental. The problem is not just foreign tariffs. That's a tiny part of the problem, but to offset this unfairness.
So he has to put those tariffs in place. When you do that, I do not believe you'll have inflation and we should talk about that in a systemic fundamental way, but you will have people who have supply chains that they're gonna have to make adjustments. You've got some things that may go up in price, for some period of time. You you you and and these all these kinds of things, will have an impact on on people in daily life. But I I think it'll be short termed. I call them disruptions. I think it'll be short termed. I don't think it'll lead to systemic inflation.
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That was Bob Lighthizer on with Tucker Carlson. I'll have a link to the whole interview if people wanna check that out if you're interested in that sort of thing. I think it makes some sense. And I think in this particular case, Trump is genuinely trying to do something good. I think the the current system is not sustainable. I mean, the racking up trillions and trillions of debt is very inflationary. You know, and inflating the monetary supply literally is inflationary. And the relationship of the trade imbalance to, you know, the way Bob described it there, wealth being transferred overseas, that makes a lot of sense. And you can look at it the other way, kind of the Peter Schiff angle of, well, we're just sending them paper or treasuries or what have you, and we're getting actual stuff back from it. And eventually, they're going to figure that out and decide, we want this stuff. We don't want the the worthless paper. So that I think there is an an angle to look at it there too where it's probably not sustainable any way you look at it.
And so this is an effort by Trump to try and save save the dollar, save doll dollar hegemony. And I don't know if he I I certainly think it is it's trying to do something good. Now is he getting set up and this is why he got put in because they know this will eventually tank things, and and they can sabotage it and everything else. Quite possible. But I I believe because this has been one of the the Trump things for such a long time that this is, you know, something he genuinely thinks will help. Now, Now, why this term and not, you know, not eight years ago? Seems like we we could have done with the this reset and and moving manufacturing back and all the rest would have been more viable eight years ago than it is now. And it would have been a whole lot more viable back in Ross Perot days. This is the same stuff that he was pointing out then, or Pat Buchanan, or anybody like that, where the globalism the system has been in place for so long at this point that trying to undo it to to make it a better, more fair system and to benefit actual working American people rather than just the kind of I don't know. If you're a CEO of a company that makes stuff in China, it'd benefit to you. If you are, a billionaire, it'd benefit to you. If you're Jeff Bezos, it'd benefit to you. But overall, it's it's not a good thing. And so, you know, we'll see it. It's it's kinda like the one thing we could get really upset at Obama for was Obamacare, and and it certainly didn't work out well at all. It ended up being the worst of both worlds.
But the the idea now that the tariffs are just the worst thing ever, well, you know, theoretically, it should lead to more more stuff being made in The US, which a lot of people, not just conservatives or it's not really a political thing, a lot of people have been pointing that out for for decades at this point. So is it is it too late? Is it meant to crash things at this point? We'll have to see. So certainly not, not great for the stock market, but the stock market and the real world are are two very different things. So I've got one more clip on the economic front, and then we'll we'll get into some health stuff. This is the commerce secretary, Howard Lochnick. Some people might have heard this this clip already, but an interesting interesting viewpoint. CBS, of course, their mission in life is to attack Trump, so we gotta set up the story with the just, you know, however everyone's protesting Trump and then thinks it's terrible yada yada.
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It is shaping up to be another turbulent week as president Trump's trade war with the world escalates. The global sell off triggered by president Trump's tariff announcements wiped out more than $6,000,000,000,000 of wealth from The US stock market in just two days. In a social media post yesterday, the president urged the country to hang tough. All this as tens of thousands of people took to the streets yesterday from Washington DC to Minnesota and Columbus, Ohio, protesting many of Trump's policies, Elon Musk, and tariffs. We begin this morning with commerce secretary Howard Lutnick. Mister secretary, welcome to Face the Nation. Great to be here. We see about 60% of Americans have money in the stock market, which mean that retirees could be just as concerned as hedge fund men. Did you expect this level of shock in the financial market? Well, you've got to realize this is a national security issue. I mean, we don't make medicine in this country anymore.
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We don't make ships. We don't have enough steel and aluminum to fight a battle. Right? All our semiconductors are made overseas, so every button we press when we try to start our car or even use our microwave, These are all semiconductors. They're all made elsewhere. We've gotta start to protect ourselves, and we've gotta stop having all the countries of the world ripping us off. We have a 1,200,000,000,000 trade deficit, and the rest of the world has a surplus with us. They're earning our money. They're taking our money. Right. And Donald Trump has seen this, and he's gonna stop it. So it is going to be a big change. Of course, it's gonna be a big change, but the rest of the world has been ripping us off for all these many years. Donald Trump has seen it. He's spoken about it. I understand that. Take it anymore, and that's his model. And that was in
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abundantly clear during the presidential camp how much the president truly believed in tariffs and putting him at the center of his economic palace. But you saw absolute panic in the markets. Did you expect that or were you surprised?
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No. I think the point is you need to reset the power of The United States Of America and reset it against all our allies and our enemies alike. The the idea that all the countries of the world can run trade surpluses with America and buy our things with us. Remember, $1,200,000,000,000. In 1980, we were a net investor, meaning we owed more of the rest of the world than they owned the It's a different growth. It's a different market. They own 18 they own $18,000,000,000,000 of Us net. So that means the rest of the every year when we run a 1,200,000,000,000 deficit, the rest of the world buys $1,200,000,000,000 of America, and it goes up and up and up. And, eventually, we're not gonna own America, and we are going to be owned by the rest of the world. Imagine if we had a war and we can't build a ship. We can't fly a plane. We can't build our own planes. We don't have our own semiconductors.
This is what the president is here to fix for America. It's in his hands, and he wants to fix America. This is his chance to fix America, and we need him to fix it for our children and our grandchildren.
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Okay. But for for businesses to do what you're doing because what I hear you laying out there is a plan to reindustrialize The United States and to bring companies back to America. For a CEO to choose to invest Well said. But for a CEO to make those decisions, you know this. They need certainty. They need to know if it costs them more to stay overseas or if it costs them more to move here. So can you give them clarity so that they don't just cut jobs because they're dealing with the cost of these tariff tariffs? Can you tell them how long they're staying placed?
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Absolutely. The United States Of America is going to protect the people who invest in America. Trillions And Trillions Of Dollars, you heard the president speak about it, are coming to invest in America. This is the economy of the world. We are the consumer of the world, and companies need to build it here, and we will protect them from building it here. Protect them for building it here. Okay. So there's the American workers. Yes. American workers are more expensive, but they're better. We're gonna protect all the factories that come to America, and that's what's coming here. So Okay. Is the 10% tariff permanent? Protect them. Well, remember, this is a national security issue. I got it. Is a 10% tariff our budget deficit. That, you know, the laws of America the laws of America, he would like it to be that we need to protect the companies that invest here, and we are going to protect the companies that invest here. That is the policy of The United States Of America. That's why trillions of dollars are coming here. The rip off of the of The United States Of America is over. All these companies are gonna come and invest here. That's what they're doing. That's why they've committed trillions of dollars. They know this is the economy.
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This is the place to go. Mister secretary, the campaign's over. You won. So I'm asking what the plan is. So the treasury secretary said on another network, we're gonna hold the course. It's not the kind of thing you can negotiate away in days or weeks. That makes it sound like the tariffs are staying in place at least for days or weeks. Is that correct, or is the president considering postponing implementation to negotiate? There's no postponing.
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They are definitely gonna stay in place for days and weeks. That is sort of obvi the president reset global trade. Everybody has a trade surplus, and we have a trade deficit. We are paying away our future and our lives come the countries of the world are ripping us off, and it's gotta end. The president has made it crystal crystal clear. This is the policy we're going to protect. The factories that come build in America, we are gonna protect them. They're gonna be successful. That's why they're gonna build in America the greatest economy in the Earth. All of these companies are gonna come and build. So when three of the the president's other economic advisers who are on other networks today say that 50 different countries have been calling the White House to try to talk about the what does that mean? Because that makes it sound like there is a negotiate, which is different from saying the tariffs are permanent. Well, what it shows is that all these countries know that they've been ripping us off, and the day has come for that to end. Now the problem is it's not just tariffs. Like, I'll give you an example. Like, Vietnam said they'd like to be zero zero. Remember, Vietnam sends us a hundred and $20,000,000,000 worth of goods every year. Yes. Cheap menu back. About $12,000,000,000.
Wait. We send them $12,000,000,000. So it's not the tariffs. It has nothing to do with tariffs. If they went to zero zero, they would go to 200,000,000,000
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with us. We need to stop the rip off, and zero zero is is the way Oh, no. But we don't have zero zero, sir. We we don't have zero zero, actually, because when we saw the president stand in the Rose Garden holding up that chart that you helped make, that that wasn't actually tariffs. That was actually confusing to investors because it was some kind of other formula, and the countries themselves seemed kind of random. Like, why are the herd in McDonald Islands, which don't export to The United States and are quite literally inhabited by penguins, why do they face a 10% tariffs? Did you use AI to generate this?
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No. No. The idea look. The idea is Why are they on the list? Left off. Because the idea what happens is if you leave anything off the list, the countries that try to basically arbitrage America go through those countries to us. Any country like, we had tariffs the president put tariffs on China, right, in 2018, and then what China started doing is they started going through other countries to America. They just build through other countries through America. And so the president knows that. He's tired of it, and he's going to fix that. So, basically, he said, look. I can't let any part of the world be a place where China or other countries can ship through them. Through them. So he ended those loopholes, these ridiculous loopholes. And now what he's trying to say is I'm going to fix the trade deficit of The United States Of America. It's a national security issue. We need to make medicine. We need to make semiconductors.
We need to make ships. We need to have steel and aluminum. Come on. We need the greatness of America to actually be built in America, and he's tired of getting ripped off by the rest of the world. Okay. But just to be clear, April 9, the so called retaliatory
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tariffs, the reciprocal tariffs, I should say, are those coming, or are they open to negotiate? The tariffs are coming. He announced it, and he wasn't kidding. The tariffs are coming. Of course, they are. Okay. Is the administration considering any kind of offset, any kind of subsidy? You mentioned the first administration. There was some bailout to farmers to help them deal with the pain from Chinese retaliation. Are you looking at that now?
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Not that I've I have not participated in any meat respect to that. Country is focused on you realize trillions of dollars of factories are gonna be built in America. That's huge GDP. The factories being built in America are huge. That takes years. And you said that robots are gonna fill those jobs. So those aren't union really automated jobs. It's automated factory automated factory. He is who's gonna build the factories, who's gonna operate the factories, who's gonna make them work. Great American workers. You know, we are going to replace on other networks. Army. Millions of people well, remember, the army of millions and millions of human beings screwing in little little screws to make iPhones. That kind of thing is gonna come to America. It's gonna be automated. And great Americans, the trade craft of America, is gonna fix them, is gonna work on them. They're gonna be mechanics. There's gonna be HVAC specialists. There's gonna be electricians. The trade craft of America are high school educated Americans. The core to our workforce is gonna have the greatest resurgence of jobs in the history of America to work on these high-tech factory, which are all coming to America.
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That's what's going to kill the next generation of America. Are you concerned in the time it will take for a company to move to America that it will benefit China in the immediate term, that other markets will look to other suppliers instead of dealing with That is ridiculous.
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The problem is everyone in the world sells to us. Our economy is the consumer of the world. We are the only one with a trade deficit. The rest of the world has a trade surplus. Why does Europe have a trade surplus? Is there something about Europe that's special? Seriously, are they a different world than we are? Why are they selling 200,000,000,080 more to us? It's because it's not fair. The rules are made not fair, and president Trump is going to fix them. Yep. And he's doing it for America, and he's doing it for your children and mine and our grandchildren. This is the moment that The United States Of America takes hold of itself, and Donald Trump's been talking about this his whole life. This is Donald Trump's agenda,
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and we are all here to help him exit it. And we will take him at his word quite literally. Thank you.
[00:23:04] Andrew Hoffman:
So are we getting all the factories back? Are we gonna build things in America again? And or is it a combination, like, was hinted at there of, okay, may well, maybe stuff will be made here, but it'll be automated. It'll be, you know, robots making it. And there will be some jobs for, quote, high school educated people, which, by the way, I'd I don't consider it just high school education if you go and learn a trade. Like, if you're an electrician, that's not just a high school education. You don't learn learn to be an electrician in high school. You don't go to a four year liberal arts university, but it's definitely education happening beyond high school.
So maybe you know, I mean, that's a good new good news for, tradespeople, but there's a there's already a lot of tradespeople jobs out there. I mean, if you're into that sort of thing, kudos to you on, being smart enough to to get into that in the first place. Of course, with the HVAC and the electrician stuff, it kind of reminds me of the the private equity clip and and talking about how lots of the kind of small companies are are purchased, including their name and likeness, not allowed to talk about it. And so you think you're getting your local electrician or local HVAC repair, but it's owned by a much larger company.
And so the illusion of competition in reality, the, you know, the the three HVAC repair guys in town all work for the same company. And what do you know? Their prices all went up. That sort of thing. So it's, you know, it's not a panacea, but globalism is is bad. I mean, this is not working well. We get cheap Chinese junk and the illusion that we you could just keep on buying stuff ad infinitum, and that's it's not working well for anybody. So I'd rather than making it's not like we want to make the cheap Chinese junk here. Right? We but if there is, I don't know, maybe high quality cars, clothes, stuff like that, where, yes, you pay more for it, but it it is created by people with good paying jobs.
And maybe it lasts a long time. Maybe you can buy a car that lasts for thirty years, you know, and and runs efficiently on on gasoline. What a what a novel idea and doesn't have 1,200 semiconductors involved to to make it. So it's there's a lot of possibilities. If Trump and his administration, if their goal is actually what's good for America, there's a lot of stuff that could be done. Very little evidence that it's it's gonna happen. At this point, it kinda looks like my original theory about Trump getting reelected to be kind of the fall guy it's looking fairly accurate. So all this, you know, just how how Biden and then Trump before him, oh, you know, it's look. The terrible economy, it's their fault. Let's not look at globalism. Let's not look at George h w Bush. Let's not look at Ronald Reagan and and Bill Clinton and everything all the way through. So and it's those are just the the presidential puppets. It's really people above them the whole time that that, in general, they don't they don't change till they die off. So so let's transition on that, Trump and the economy to an issue which will come as no shock to you where where I stand on it. It. But, I I really enjoyed this clip from from John Rich. I know he's a musician. I after hearing the clip, I went and listened to some of his music. Some of it's it's got some good songs out there. Maybe maybe there's some John Rich fans in the in the No Pill podcast audience, but, but I enjoyed this, description.
And it's almost worth it. It might be kinda confusing audio only because he's he's pointing at different people and saying, okay. You're you're where, Lindsey Graham was and, you know, I was here and Trump was here, yada yada. So it's if it's confusing to follow, I apologize, but there will be a clip to to go see what what he's pointing at. And and he he does a pretty good Trump impression, and I thought this was a good, a good story.
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We're sitting there, and everybody's eating their food, and and and president Trump is not president this at this time. And he's talking to the senators and talking about really important stuff, and I'm just minding my own business going, I don't know why how I got in this room. Well, it's okay. I'm sitting elbow to elbow with him. It's about an hour into dinner. I hadn't said a word, just been listening. And Trump gets to eat, and then you've seen him do this move right here.
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Yeah.
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And then wherever in the big boardroom he does this. Okay. That's what he does. Mhmm. He he goes, can I ask you a question, John Rich? He never calls me John. John Rich? I look at him and I go, yes, sir. What's the question? He goes, well, you do a lot of big shows. Like, you're an entertainer. Yes, sir. You play for really big crowds? I go, I do. I play for really big crowds for a long time. He goes, well, have you seen these rallies I'm doing? Like, it's thirty, forty thousand people. I said, yeah. It's unbelievable. He goes, so let me he goes, so here's the question. Why are people booing me at my rallies when I bring up the vaccine?
This is the question from the president of The United States. A guy who is very proud at that moment of the fact that he was able to stomp the gas pedal and get that thing out because he's under the impression this is gonna fix the problem. Operation warp speed. That's it. Yeah. Okay. So here's a guy who, to his own admission, one of the biggest egos on the earth. Yeah. And he's very proud of this, and I respect him to there is no limit. Right. But I'm being asked a very direct question. And so, man, I went looked at him and I said, okay.
I'm gonna tell you the answer, and you're not gonna like it. He goes, okay. What's the answer? You're gonna look at me like this? I said, let me start off by saying this. We, the the American people, do not trust the people that you were forced to trust at the time when this was happening. Let's start there. And I said, by the people we don't trust, here's who I mean. The FDA, the CDC, the NIH, the WHO, Fauci, and all the rest of them. I said, mister president, we consider them to be a bunch of murderous depopulationist psychopaths.
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And his reaction was
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That's a good way to say it. Eyes are he goes, unbelievable. Unbelievable. No. He is stunned that I said that. I said, now let me tell you why they're booing you. I said, because all of them, including me, I said, I would boo you. I would boo you. Did you really say that? I would boo you Really? If you brought that up, and here's why. And he's looking at me, and I'm thinking to myself, this is the last time this guy's gonna invite me to anything. Yeah. He's never gonna call me again. I'm throwing massive shade on a former president's Yeah. One in his mind, one of his biggest accomplishments.
Mhmm. And and it dawned on me, nobody had told the man what I was telling him right now because they all work for him. They all got something to gain from him. They're not going to tell him this because they're not serving him well. I don't work for him, and I think a lot of him. And I want him to understand the truth about it. So I said, here's the problem. Here's why they're booing you, mister president. Because every human being out in that rally, either themselves or they know someone directly who has been harmed by the vaccine or has even died from it, including me.
I said I got members of my own family who were forced to take it against their will to keep their jobs, and now they've got all kinds of problems, big problems, heart problems Mhmm. Lung problems. And he's he he's looking at me, and he he looks around the table, and he goes, this is unbelievable. I mean, he goes, is is this does anyone has anyone else heard this? Herschel Walker, mister he was running for senate at the time. He goes, mister president, I mean, down in Georgia, my constituents come up at my rallies, and what what John just said, man, I hear every single day. Looks over at Marsha. Marsha's sitting there going you know, looks around the table. And then Lindsey Graham, who's sitting across so you're here or I'm here.
[00:32:00] Unknown:
I'm sorry, but you're Lindsay. Sorry. No. You're lying. I'm sorry. Lindsay. You're Lindsay.
[00:32:06] Unknown:
I'm sorry. Lindsey Graham and you're me. Okay. As I'm going into the part where I said, even in my own family, I have Lindsey Graham busts in with it swishing his chardonnay around and said, mister president, if you listen to conspiracy like John Risch, the Democrats are gonna take credit for what you did, and they're gonna beat you in the next election with it. Oh. And I so I'm looking at Trump, and he's sitting over there. And he does that, and I looked at him, and I said, do not interrupt me when I'm speaking. Do you understand me? You what? And he and he he looked at me, and he goes, well, I didn't mean to disrespect you. I go, yeah. But you
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did. Oh. So Right now, you look like Wyatt Earp.
[00:33:00] Unknown:
You're you're intimidating. Trump is right here. You're Lindsey Graham. Okay? I go I'm holding him. Oh, good. Yeah. You're Lindsey Graham.
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Graham.
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You're the best president. I look at him one more time. I go, now let me finish what I was saying. Oh, man. And then I finished it. Okay. That's that's the Trump ended that by saying, so I guess no more vaccine talk. I said, I think that's a good idea. I said, I think you're gonna learn a lot about it.
[00:33:31] Unknown:
But, yes, I think that's a good idea because that's the only thing that would make us ever boo you, mister president. You're right. I mean, thank you. But the things that I think a lot of people didn't agree with him on, and it was the vaccine and him being proud of it. And Jason actually has a story that's similar to that.
[00:33:47] Unknown:
The thing about Trump and the vaccine, Trump never mandated the vaccine. No. Exactly. Trump said, you're all the doctors. Go figure out how to make this stop. To make this a And he trusted these people that we now all know were a bunch of depopulationist animals. We all know that now, but he never mandated it because mandating an experimental medical procedure violates the Nuremberg Code. It's a crime against humanity Yeah. Which I hope we see that play out because people need to be held accountable for that in a major way. I think it's I think it will. Yeah. So that was the story there. So, you know, again, he has called me since then. He does text me back from the Super Bowl. He has invited me to so I did not lose my friendship with him. I think if anything, based on a couple of things he's asked me over the last year or so, he probably appreciates the fact that I'll give him say something to him that he don't really wanna hear that. My favorite part of that story is definitely telling Lindsey Graham not to interrupt him. And the description of Lindsey Graham
[00:34:49] Andrew Hoffman:
being all pro vax, boy, does that ring true. Lindsey Graham it used to be John McCain and Lindsey Graham. But if there is one pure new world order serving a Satan in congress, it is Lindsey Graham. He's always on the wrong side every single issue. He's in favor of every war, you know, for big pharma, against anything that would be good. And this shows how our political system is broken because he just keeps on getting elected. It doesn't matter how many people don't like him, still in in power, as they say. So that's it's an interesting story and it an interesting insight into the bubble of Trump seemingly not hearing from a lot of people that people hate the vaccine. Like, he eventually figured it out. But this was, you know, Alex Jones talked about trying to get people close to Trump to talk to him about it and him blowing it off and saying, don't don't bring that up again, that sort of thing. Of of course, Alex Jones also said that would be the dividing line. I mean, he would never support Trump if Trump didn't apologize for the vaccine, and we all know how how that worked out. So that's it's kind of a somewhat hopeful, somewhat discouraging story there on Trump.
Definitely rings true. I have no way of verifying whether that that dinner happened or not. But this kinda leads into the online controversy RFK Jr, which I use a ton of children's health defense stuff. I used to play clips from, RFK Jr's podcast on Revelations Radio News. So I have a a lot of respect for him and was very disappointed with this this post. Let me pull it up here. This is from the secretary Kennedy x account. I don't think he was you know, I thought maybe that editorial that got posted, you know, the headline maybe came from someone else because that's how it works in news you know, back in the day in newspapers and and currently with online publishing.
Sometimes different people write the headlines and wrote the the letter, the the article, or what have you. But this comes from him, and I haven't heard him saying it's it's not from him or not what he he believes. So, he talks about going to Texas for the measles outbreak. And in early early March, I deployed a CDC team to bolster local and state capacity for response across multiple Texas regions, supply pharmacies in Texas run clinics with needed MMR vaccines and other medicines and medical supplies, work with local schools and health care facilities to support contact investigations, and to reach out to communities, including faith leaders, to answer any questions or respond to locations seeking health care. Since that time, the growth rates for new cases and hospitalizations have flattened.
The most effective way to prevent the spread of measles is the MMR vaccine. This this is a problem. I've spoken to Governor Abbott and offered HHS's continued support. At his request, we have redeployed CDC teams to Texas. We will continue to follow Texas's lead and offer similar resources to other affected jurisdictions. So the, the most effective way to prevent the spread of measles is the MMR vaccine is definitely the part that stuck out to people and, you know, definitely me me included there. So this it's it's tough to sugarcoat that. So I'll say at least Children's Health Defense itself, definitely made clear where they stand. And so I've got a clip from and this, I believe, was recorded previously. This is just a more general clip. So Mary Holland is the head of Children's Health Defense. She's a lawyer. And, as you'll hear in the clip, is the the parent of a vaccine injured child.
And it's you know, listen to what she has to say, and then we'll talk a little bit more about this whole, RFK Jr. Thing. And I think the positive fact that vaccine safety is definitely more a a talking point than it was, you know, pick a number of years before. Basically, any anytime pre COVID, definitely a bigger deal now.
[00:39:27] Unknown:
Right. So I have an adult son who's vaccine injured. And just to say that this didn't all start with COVID, and the the roots are deeper, and the harms are deeper, and the remedies have to be deeper. And kids are the most vulnerable. I say, you know, kids can't pay off. They can't vote. They can't pay off politicians. They they can't speak young children. They can't fully advocate for themselves. The they are the most vulnerable. Elderly people are vulnerable. They may be more feeble. They may be more have chronic disease burden, but they're not as vulnerable as children. And the worst that we do in our global society when it comes to, you know, iatrogenesis, harm from medicine, is to fetuses and to children. There's no question about it. So pregnant women right now in this country are recommended to get four shots while they're pregnant. There is no science underlining this. They are recommended to get a COVID shot, an RSV shot, a Tdap shot, and a flu shot. They are recommended to get all of those by the Centers for Disease Control right now while they're pregnant. Then on the day of birth, a baby is expected to get a hepatitis b shot. In some places like New York City, literally, you cannot deliver in any hospital a baby who will not get that hep b shot on the day of birth. And then there's the two month shots. There's the four month shots. There's the six month shots. There's the twelve month or fifteen month shots.
Literally, I learned yesterday, Friday. On Friday, I learned of a baby that was taken into a Rochester hospital this past week at 12. The baby was not well. They on the medical charts, it said things like the baby, has eczema. The baby has a rash. The baby is constipated, but the practitioner said, oh, no problem. We do this all the time. Gave the baby six shots, hepatitis A, MMR, Varicella, DTaP, something, a couple others. And the baby was after having four seizures, the baby was dead within a day. This is in Rochester this week, and this is happening around the country. So what keeps me up at night is is the children. They are the most affected, and they can't do anything about it on their own.
So it's again, it's on us. We're the ones who are awake. We have to really mobilize to stop this. So what does that mean? It means we have to end medical mandates. Medical mandates are coercion. Full stop. Right? We've got to stop the mandates. In the short run, obviously, we need a religious exemption back in New York State. We've got to stop persecution of the doctors who grant medical exemptions. Right? I mean, this is this is step one. May 14, we will have a demonstration in Albany. Put it in your books. May 14 is a demonstration in Albany with, you know, with with all of the movement and people in politics who support us.
[00:42:41] Andrew Hoffman:
Mary Holland brings the brings the heat there and definitely doesn't sound like someone who is, gonna be letting children's health defense get merged into this weird political, oh, let's just, you know, stop drinking Coca Cola and everything will be fine, and let's not talk about vaccines. So it's there's no vaccines are the best way to prevent anything in what she said there. So I'd I appreciate that. And everything I've seen from Children's Health Defense, I mean, I used to look at it on a fairly regular basis, but much more so now, and it's only gotten better.
I mean, when when you have James Corbett on as a regular guest on on their their shows, that's that's definitely a good thing. So I love children's health health defense. It's one of the few things I've I've given money to to support. And I I think it's a good organization, and I haven't regretted that. So, and now as far as the Kennedy things goes, I think there there's a potential overreaction to it. And I'll I'll play this Greg Rees video or just the audio from it, see what you think, see if this is overreaction or a proper reaction. I think he raises some interesting points as, with some interesting speculation on why RFK Jr.
Would put out that terrible statement on the MMR preventing measles.
[00:44:25] Unknown:
Yesterday, RFK Jr. Addressed the public about a measles outbreak, saying that there are six hundred and forty two confirmed cases across 22 states. He said that in early March, he deployed a CDC team to bolster capacity for response and to supply pharmacies and clinics with needed MMR vaccines and other medicines and medical supplies. He concluded by stating that the most effective way to prevent the spread of measles is the MMR vaccine. I've spoken to governor Abbott, and I've offered HHS's continued support. At his request, we have redeployed CDC teams to Texas. We will continue to follow Texas's lead and to offer similar resources to other affected jurisdictions.
The power of rhetoric is that it seems to work without fail in every election, and so many are surprised to see this complete reversal to what he was saying before the twenty twenty four election.
[00:45:29] Unknown:
If your kids were young now, would you give them the measles, the mumps vaccine? No.
[00:45:36] Unknown:
I got measles, mumps. When I was a kid, it was Lots of people die from them. Used to die from those Oh, well, you know what? They died in the nineteen hundreds or early nineteen hundreds. There were about ten thousand Americans a year died. In 1964, there was about three or four hundred who died, and they were almost all, severely malnourished kids mainly from the Mississippi Delta. This is before the poverty program, so there was a lot of starving children in our country. It's very, very hard to kill a healthy child with any infectious disease, but particularly with measles. And the World Health Organization now says vitamin a is a absolute cure for measles, which we didn't know about back then. Back then, you know, we were treated with chicken soup, and and it was, you know, a a week at home watching leave it to beaver, and every kid caught it. Every single kid got it. And I had 11 brothers and sisters, and we all got it, and we're all fine. And there are lots and lots of studies out there now that show that kids who get measles as a child are much healthier when they grow up, that they're much more resistant to cancers, to atopic diseases, to allergies, and to, and to heart disease.
Nobody died in Samoa from measles. They were dying from a bad vaccine, and they the vaccine was imported from Australia and given to people who had measles, which is which is not recommended. The same measles outbreak hit Tonga, which is the neighboring island, and nobody died because they didn't get the vaccine.
[00:47:13] Unknown:
RFK Junior admitted to being on Jeffrey Epstein's plane three times. You weren't ever on Jeffrey Epstein's jet, were you?
[00:47:23] Unknown:
I was on Jeffrey Epstein's jet two times. I was on it, in 1993, and I was on it in and I went to Florida with my wife and, two children to visit my mom over Easter. My my wife had some kind of relationship with Ghislaine Maxwell.
[00:47:48] Unknown:
He said his wife was friends with Ghislaine Maxwell, whose father, Robert Maxwell, was a Zionist and a high level spy for Israel and Mossad. And like all of the Maga Maga cabinet, loyalty to Israeli Zionism is first and foremost. Everything else is just rhetoric. While Israel beats the drums for war with Iran, The US Secretary Of Health And Human Services prescribes the MMR vaccine to keep Americans dead and confused.
[00:48:21] Andrew Hoffman:
So it's it was an interesting production there from Greg Rees. I was enjoying I always enjoy hearing what he has to say. I'm not quite as skeptical of Kennedy. There does seem to be some blackmail there though. There does seem to be some compromises being made, very similar to the Trump situation where I don't know if they, you know, half jokingly, I say when they they took him in for COVID, they gave him the choice of either, death by remdesivir or he made a deal and and he made a deal. But there was I mean, there's Epstein stuff with Trump from way back and and other similar issues too. So there's you know, these are not perfect people by any means.
It shouldn't be that hard to find people that haven't been on Epstein's plane. But at the same time, you know, we'll we'll judge the tree by its fruits there and and see how the the Kennedy, make America healthy again situation plays out. But on the the positive side, since COVID, there there's definitely been a dividing, between people kinda either you're either on the side of truth and you're gonna see how far that that journey takes you and you're sticking with the system, and we can just kinda disregard the people that were were pro COVID vaxxed and, well, they they kinda showed where they stand. So not really not really any need to to pay attention to them if if they didn't get that one right. So one of my my favorite people and someone who's been very consistent in pointing out the problems with vaccines, used man, I I used to hear her on the Alex Jones Show, I don't know, ten, fifteen years ago. I don't even know if he has her on anymore. He doesn't seem to to have as many guests as he used to or or kind of a different type of guest. But, doctor Sherry Tenpenny, and definitely someone heavily attacked, as far as censorship goes, what have you.
But she's she's still saying the same stuff she's been saying, but always adds some interesting specific details and and what have you. So we'll we'll I'll just go ahead and play both, Sherry Tenpenny clips and talk to you after that. Thank you.
[00:50:56] Unknown:
Every single vaccine that you inject, every single one causes harm. Now it may not lead you into a seizure disorder or cause SIDS, but what if it just shaves a few IQ points off? What if you start to have allergies? What if you start to have food intolerances and GI issues and you start to wheeze and have asthma or you have eczema? Every single one is poisonous, and injecting poison into your body causes harm. And none of them are necessary. I mean, you know this, Paul, because you have large segment of unvaccinated kids in your practice. I've seen a lot of unvaccinated kids in my practice over the years, and they're always the smartest, the most inquisitive.
They're ahead of the curve on their milestones. They're speaking earlier. They don't have any illnesses. The only time they come to see you is once a year for a school physical, you know, so they can play sports. They don't have inhalers and drugs and shots and all these other things. And so that to sum that up, they're not not been proven to be safe. They don't protect you from getting sick. Every single one of them causes some degree of harm,
[00:52:06] Unknown:
some more than others, and none were necessary. Well, hello, everyone. This is doctor Sherry Timpenny from Cleveland, Ohio. I was thinking the other day about how we have been conditioned to believe that vaccines are safe, effective, necessary, and harmless. They are none of those things. In fact, they are systematic poisoning of children and adults across the world. They are injecting aluminum, polysorbate 80, animal cells, cells from aborted fetal tissue, and almost all the the vaccines in the pediatric schedule contain cow blood, chicken blood, chicken parts, and a long list of chemicals.
So I've decided that from now on, I'm not ever gonna talk about the pediatric vaccination schedule. I believe it's time that we call it what it is and start calling it the pediatric poisoning schedule, where children get three injections of poison right after they're born, where they mothers get four to five injections of poison before the baby is even born. And then at two, four, and six months, they get seven more injections of poisons by the time they are one year of age. That children now get around 20 shots of poison by the time they're six months of age.
They get up to almost 30 by the time they're a year and almost 40 by the time they start kindergarten. So let's start a revolution, and let's start calling it what it is. Not the pediatric vaccination schedule, but the pediatric poisoning schedule that parents are berated into making sure they give all those dose doses of poison on time.
[00:54:02] Andrew Hoffman:
Love those posts from doctor Tenpenny, and it's being an anti vaxxer means you're against pediatric poisoning. So just a more truthful way of saying it there. So I enjoyed those clips. There are no good vaccines. There's no safe vaccines. There's no effective vaccines. Every single vaccine is a scam. It's not a some good, some bad situation. It is a none of them work. All of them are poison. And like she said, all of them cause some degree of harm. It might not be might not be death. It might not be like those three kids in Phoenix the other day or that that poor baby or small child that showed up and got six six injections at one appointment and was dead a day later after a bunch of seizures, in New York the other day.
But it's there's harm, and there is and it is a cumulative harm and and process that's ongoing. And because of the, I guess you could say, greed of pharmaceutical companies, but I think more so than that, there's a a demonic energy, demonic, intent behind the whole vaccination thing. And one aspect of that that we've we've talked about frequently is the using aborted babies, aborted human babies, which is certainly, you know, definitely the worst ingredient in in vaccines and vaccine development, creating the market for and the market incentives for abortion, what have you.
But this was another post from doctor Tenpenny that I wasn't aware of these details. You hear the ingredients, bovine fetal blood, and it certainly doesn't sound good. I don't want that injected into my kids, but the the process of how they obtain it is really heinous. And I'll I'll read through that in a a second. But when I was reading this, it it kinda reminded me of Old Testament passages where god is telling the priests how to slaughter cows and goats and lambs and what have you. Very specific instructions. And at some level, it's like, well, that's unnecessary details. I mean, it's a cow. You're you're killing the cow.
But there is going back, you know, six thousand years, there is a a satanic element, an idol worship element to to killing animals and and doing, you know, doing a certain way, drinking blood. And we've in our modern age of scientism, we're just finding a a different way of doing those same demonic things. And and here is the the description of how bovine fetal blood is harvested for vaccines. So cows are occasionally sent to slaughter because they are crippled or to simply thin a herd. If a cow is found to be pregnant during the removal of its internal organs, the uterus is quickly moved to a specialized extraction area so the fetal blood can be harvested within thirty minutes of the mother's demise.
This is done by inserting a sterile vacuum collection apparatus directly into the heart. The fetus must be at least three months of age or the heart is too small for puncture. A three month fetus yields about a 50 cc's of serum, while a near term fetus, nine months, can yield up to 550 cc's. The heart must be beating to ensure the blood remain uncoagulated and all blood can be extracted from the fetus. Therefore, it is presumed that the fetus is alive at the time of extraction. Approximately 500,000 liters or 132,000 gallons of fetal bovine serum are sold per year, which means at least 1,000,000 unborn calf fetuses are subjected to the brutal harvesting procedure every year.
So just something to think about there. And in on the topic of people who have have gotten better on from COVID on, this was a refreshing, refreshing clip to hear from doctor Pierre Kory. He is on there with Royce White. Royce White does some good good interviews. And talking about the question I think I got the question in in the clip, but he he asked him, you know, what would you change with the medical system? And Pierre Kory, he was good during COVID. But as you'll hear, he's gone down the what are the good vaccine, rabbit hole and found out that there aren't any. So it's this is this will be our last clip. I'll I'll be back to to wrap it up after this.
[00:59:25] Unknown:
As a lifelong doctor, if there was one thing you could change, if there was one institution, policy, practice thing that you've seen in the industry over your career that you would change, what would it be? I I would dismantle
[00:59:39] Unknown:
the whole vaccine apparatus, I think, for for several reasons. I think that they're destroying the health of our children and our country. Do you know what it's like for a family to have an autistic kid who's nonverbal? Their entire lives are altered from that moment forth. I have patients who have vaccine injured autistic kids who are totally dependent on them, even as adults. They know their kids will never leave the house. They need to be home all the time. Caring for someone like that is so destructive to not only the child's lives, the parents' lives, and there's many, many of them out there. That's just one little snip of the vaccines. And number two, like I said, they're unnecessary. They're built on myths.
And and the illnesses that are exploding, like this chronic disease epidemic that Bobby talks about, a lot of us talk about, yeah, there's other causes. Right? Our food is getting polluted, our food additives, agriculture, pesticides, but vaccine's a huge one. And, I know the data. Unvaccinated children are far, far healthier than others. And then so what would someone scream at me when I say that? They'd be like, oh, you want a child to die from measles? I'm like, are you kidding me? You know how many kids die from measles? It's extremely rare. They'll tell me if we get rid of the vaccines it'll come back. Not true. That's not what drove all the measles epidemics in the past. That's number one. Number two, we have really good antivirals. I know of a few more which you can talk about later on that I've discovered, but we have ways to treat those illnesses that you just don't need the vaccines.
And I just think, in terms of health, I am so angry for having been lied to for so long. The books that they write about vaccines are are just false. They're false. And and remember, the entire legislation in 1985 came about because the vaccine manufacturers threatened to stop manufacturing vaccines. Why? Because and it's in the act in 1995. Because they were deemed unavoidably unsafe, and they could not be liable anymore for all the injuries they were causing. So what happens is congress gives them immunity. And what do they do with that immunity? They explode our schedule, and they're jabbing every kid, and they're weaponizing. They're using legal mandates. You know, kids can't go to school in a lot of states and and communities without getting fully vaccinated. And you how many patients I have family, like parents come to me to save their children?
And in some in some states, if they come to me, I tell them, here are your options, homeschool or move. Not everyone's got the disposable cash to do those two things. They're working all day. They can't can't just decide to homeschool and, like but they many of them are brought to that decision point because they don't want their kids to get vaccinated. And so I gotta tell you, I would I think that whole vaccine myth needs to be taken down slowly or quickly or somehow, but people need to educate themselves on that. And I I include all of the doctors, and I would offer two books. One is Dissolving Illusions by Kathleen Humphreys, and the other one is a masterpiece of an academic work called Turtles All the Way Down, written by five, anonymous Israeli scientists. And they so expertly go through the entire evidence base for vaccines, and it's a devastating conclusion that we've been lied to around vaccines for so long.
[01:03:00] Andrew Hoffman:
I have not read Dissolving Illusions by Suzanne Humphreys, but she does have an important distinction. She was the guest on the Joe Rogan experience that that resulted in me listening to an entire episode of of Joe Rogan, beginning to end. So so Suzanne Humphries, I've I very much enjoyed that that interview. I thought she did a great job. There's always people nitpicking. Oh, you she said this. That wasn't quite right or yada yada, but she she did a really great job. If you haven't heard that already, that's a good interview. And if you've got an extra copy of that book lying around and you wanna send it to me, I would greatly appreciate it. But that was a worthwhile thing to hear, good book recommendations. I've obviously heard of Turtles All the Way Down as well, but that's another one I I have not read. So, if if people have also recommend that, I'd I'd love to hear hear more about it. So thank you so much for listening on this this April day or whenever you're listening to the the podcast. I really, really do appreciate it.
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Hello, everybody. Thank you for listening to the No Pill podcast, episode nine, pediatric poisoning, podcasting from Sunny, but chemtrailed, Piedmont, Oklahoma. I'm Andrew Hoffman. And today, we'd we got some economic stuff to talk about. And then, of course, you know, there's big news in Mahaland. It's the April 8, so we just had the Kennedy post about how wonderful the MMR vaccine is at presenting at preventing measles and the the predictable backlash from that. And we've got the the Trump tariffs going into effect and the predictable backlash from that. So let's let's start out.
If you're like me, you you know what tariffs are, but, you know, not not completely and and what's the purpose. It's got something to do with the trade balance, but let's let's just, get some information on on if they're here to stay and then also what they are, what the I what the theory behind it is.
[00:01:56] Unknown:
Why is it important to do this, to institute tariffs, to rethink trade? I I think you have to start with a proposition,
[00:02:04] Unknown:
has the system failed? And to me, it's an emphatic yes. I think of it in sort of two two ways. One, if you think of the the way trade is supposed to work, you're supposed to export in order to import that, and then you get the benefit of trade. You get actually you you do what you do best. I do what I do best, or I do what you do less best. Right. You export we import and we get the benefit. We both have higher standards of living. That's not really what's it's evolved to. It's evolved to now where you have a few countries, The United States being the biggest, that have an open capital system and an open trading system, and other countries have an industrial policy that is designed not to increase the standard of living of their, citizens, but to gain wealth. So what they're trying to do is is get wealth in order to get assets in The United States or to get technology, in order to get all these kind of things that that make you wealthy.
So so so I think of the the kind of failure points as being one, because this system doesn't work, we have this giant transfer of wealth from The United States overseas and that is in the form, of trade deficits. And the way the system is supposed to work, no one should have large trade deficits for long periods of time. Things can happen. You can do it. You could have trade deficits with one country, surplus with another. But the notion of a country having hundreds of billions of dollars of trade deficits every year is not how it's supposed to work. We now are to the point where our trade deficits, they they calculate them at about seven or eight hundred billion dollars If you did it the way you or I would do in a sensible way, you'd probably be, at a trillion or a trillion and a quarter dollars. So that's a transfer of wealth from Americans overseas in return for current consumption.
And it has nothing to do with economics since it's entirely the result of industrial policy of other people and our being defenseless. Donald Trump's essence is we're getting he says we're getting ripped off. Our our workers are getting screwed. It's not because they're lazy or stupid, it's because we have a bad system that is hurting them and it's destabilizing the country. And all of these are data points that kind of make that point. And once you realize that, you realize you have to do something. Right? The purpose of the economy, first of all, obviously, is national security. But after that, it's to distribute resources and wealth so that most Americans live the best lives they can live and we have lost that. We have just plain lost it. What we really need, I've evolved to, is balanced trade.
We need a system that enforces kind of trade balance, not with countries, but globally. Countries shouldn't be able to be huge surplus countries year after year like China, of course, being the worst example, but also Germany. Ireland is evolving to that, and there's a bunch of other countries we could talk about. Countries shouldn't be able to do that, and so you say, well, how do you achieve that? You really need to put in place, I would say, some kind of tariffs to offset this fundamental unfairness. You're not just offsetting their tariffs. Europe's 10 Percent on autos. We're doing half percent. If Europe went to zero, we still wouldn't sell very many cars in Europe. We just wouldn't. Our companies basically make small trucks. They don't need them there. I mean, it's just there's a lot of reasons why that wouldn't happen.
But what you need, you can't have countries have huge trade surpluses over long periods of time. You have to enforce and you have to penalize countries that have surpluses all the time
[00:05:50] Unknown:
and and let countries that have deficits all the time get back to balance. If you do that, you then get the benefits of trade. If you take a system that's been in place for generations, which the current one has been, even if it doesn't work well, even if it hurts your country, changing it is still or changing anything that's been in place a long time is still a major lift, and it has, you know, turmoil that accompanies it. So can you just be more specific about what sort of turmoil you anticipate as this administration puts into place this new system? First of all, I have complete confidence that the president will do what he said he's gonna do. Right? And and,
[00:06:27] Unknown:
and unlike, a lot of politicians, he ran on, like, real substance and big ideas, and this is probably the biggest of the ideas that he ran on. And I think he's gonna follow through on his promises because that's the most important thing. The worst case would be that he doesn't. So so what you have to do is put in place tariffs, as I say, to offset not just tariffs. That's a tiny thing. I just keep going back to this point because it's so fundamental. The problem is not just foreign tariffs. That's a tiny part of the problem, but to offset this unfairness.
So he has to put those tariffs in place. When you do that, I do not believe you'll have inflation and we should talk about that in a systemic fundamental way, but you will have people who have supply chains that they're gonna have to make adjustments. You've got some things that may go up in price, for some period of time. You you you and and these all these kinds of things, will have an impact on on people in daily life. But I I think it'll be short termed. I call them disruptions. I think it'll be short termed. I don't think it'll lead to systemic inflation.
[00:07:42] Andrew Hoffman:
That was Bob Lighthizer on with Tucker Carlson. I'll have a link to the whole interview if people wanna check that out if you're interested in that sort of thing. I think it makes some sense. And I think in this particular case, Trump is genuinely trying to do something good. I think the the current system is not sustainable. I mean, the racking up trillions and trillions of debt is very inflationary. You know, and inflating the monetary supply literally is inflationary. And the relationship of the trade imbalance to, you know, the way Bob described it there, wealth being transferred overseas, that makes a lot of sense. And you can look at it the other way, kind of the Peter Schiff angle of, well, we're just sending them paper or treasuries or what have you, and we're getting actual stuff back from it. And eventually, they're going to figure that out and decide, we want this stuff. We don't want the the worthless paper. So that I think there is an an angle to look at it there too where it's probably not sustainable any way you look at it.
And so this is an effort by Trump to try and save save the dollar, save doll dollar hegemony. And I don't know if he I I certainly think it is it's trying to do something good. Now is he getting set up and this is why he got put in because they know this will eventually tank things, and and they can sabotage it and everything else. Quite possible. But I I believe because this has been one of the the Trump things for such a long time that this is, you know, something he genuinely thinks will help. Now, Now, why this term and not, you know, not eight years ago? Seems like we we could have done with the this reset and and moving manufacturing back and all the rest would have been more viable eight years ago than it is now. And it would have been a whole lot more viable back in Ross Perot days. This is the same stuff that he was pointing out then, or Pat Buchanan, or anybody like that, where the globalism the system has been in place for so long at this point that trying to undo it to to make it a better, more fair system and to benefit actual working American people rather than just the kind of I don't know. If you're a CEO of a company that makes stuff in China, it'd benefit to you. If you are, a billionaire, it'd benefit to you. If you're Jeff Bezos, it'd benefit to you. But overall, it's it's not a good thing. And so, you know, we'll see it. It's it's kinda like the one thing we could get really upset at Obama for was Obamacare, and and it certainly didn't work out well at all. It ended up being the worst of both worlds.
But the the idea now that the tariffs are just the worst thing ever, well, you know, theoretically, it should lead to more more stuff being made in The US, which a lot of people, not just conservatives or it's not really a political thing, a lot of people have been pointing that out for for decades at this point. So is it is it too late? Is it meant to crash things at this point? We'll have to see. So certainly not, not great for the stock market, but the stock market and the real world are are two very different things. So I've got one more clip on the economic front, and then we'll we'll get into some health stuff. This is the commerce secretary, Howard Lochnick. Some people might have heard this this clip already, but an interesting interesting viewpoint. CBS, of course, their mission in life is to attack Trump, so we gotta set up the story with the just, you know, however everyone's protesting Trump and then thinks it's terrible yada yada.
[00:12:00] Unknown:
It is shaping up to be another turbulent week as president Trump's trade war with the world escalates. The global sell off triggered by president Trump's tariff announcements wiped out more than $6,000,000,000,000 of wealth from The US stock market in just two days. In a social media post yesterday, the president urged the country to hang tough. All this as tens of thousands of people took to the streets yesterday from Washington DC to Minnesota and Columbus, Ohio, protesting many of Trump's policies, Elon Musk, and tariffs. We begin this morning with commerce secretary Howard Lutnick. Mister secretary, welcome to Face the Nation. Great to be here. We see about 60% of Americans have money in the stock market, which mean that retirees could be just as concerned as hedge fund men. Did you expect this level of shock in the financial market? Well, you've got to realize this is a national security issue. I mean, we don't make medicine in this country anymore.
[00:12:58] Unknown:
We don't make ships. We don't have enough steel and aluminum to fight a battle. Right? All our semiconductors are made overseas, so every button we press when we try to start our car or even use our microwave, These are all semiconductors. They're all made elsewhere. We've gotta start to protect ourselves, and we've gotta stop having all the countries of the world ripping us off. We have a 1,200,000,000,000 trade deficit, and the rest of the world has a surplus with us. They're earning our money. They're taking our money. Right. And Donald Trump has seen this, and he's gonna stop it. So it is going to be a big change. Of course, it's gonna be a big change, but the rest of the world has been ripping us off for all these many years. Donald Trump has seen it. He's spoken about it. I understand that. Take it anymore, and that's his model. And that was in
[00:13:45] Unknown:
abundantly clear during the presidential camp how much the president truly believed in tariffs and putting him at the center of his economic palace. But you saw absolute panic in the markets. Did you expect that or were you surprised?
[00:13:57] Unknown:
No. I think the point is you need to reset the power of The United States Of America and reset it against all our allies and our enemies alike. The the idea that all the countries of the world can run trade surpluses with America and buy our things with us. Remember, $1,200,000,000,000. In 1980, we were a net investor, meaning we owed more of the rest of the world than they owned the It's a different growth. It's a different market. They own 18 they own $18,000,000,000,000 of Us net. So that means the rest of the every year when we run a 1,200,000,000,000 deficit, the rest of the world buys $1,200,000,000,000 of America, and it goes up and up and up. And, eventually, we're not gonna own America, and we are going to be owned by the rest of the world. Imagine if we had a war and we can't build a ship. We can't fly a plane. We can't build our own planes. We don't have our own semiconductors.
This is what the president is here to fix for America. It's in his hands, and he wants to fix America. This is his chance to fix America, and we need him to fix it for our children and our grandchildren.
[00:15:03] Unknown:
Okay. But for for businesses to do what you're doing because what I hear you laying out there is a plan to reindustrialize The United States and to bring companies back to America. For a CEO to choose to invest Well said. But for a CEO to make those decisions, you know this. They need certainty. They need to know if it costs them more to stay overseas or if it costs them more to move here. So can you give them clarity so that they don't just cut jobs because they're dealing with the cost of these tariff tariffs? Can you tell them how long they're staying placed?
[00:15:33] Unknown:
Absolutely. The United States Of America is going to protect the people who invest in America. Trillions And Trillions Of Dollars, you heard the president speak about it, are coming to invest in America. This is the economy of the world. We are the consumer of the world, and companies need to build it here, and we will protect them from building it here. Protect them for building it here. Okay. So there's the American workers. Yes. American workers are more expensive, but they're better. We're gonna protect all the factories that come to America, and that's what's coming here. So Okay. Is the 10% tariff permanent? Protect them. Well, remember, this is a national security issue. I got it. Is a 10% tariff our budget deficit. That, you know, the laws of America the laws of America, he would like it to be that we need to protect the companies that invest here, and we are going to protect the companies that invest here. That is the policy of The United States Of America. That's why trillions of dollars are coming here. The rip off of the of The United States Of America is over. All these companies are gonna come and invest here. That's what they're doing. That's why they've committed trillions of dollars. They know this is the economy.
[00:16:40] Unknown:
This is the place to go. Mister secretary, the campaign's over. You won. So I'm asking what the plan is. So the treasury secretary said on another network, we're gonna hold the course. It's not the kind of thing you can negotiate away in days or weeks. That makes it sound like the tariffs are staying in place at least for days or weeks. Is that correct, or is the president considering postponing implementation to negotiate? There's no postponing.
[00:17:06] Unknown:
They are definitely gonna stay in place for days and weeks. That is sort of obvi the president reset global trade. Everybody has a trade surplus, and we have a trade deficit. We are paying away our future and our lives come the countries of the world are ripping us off, and it's gotta end. The president has made it crystal crystal clear. This is the policy we're going to protect. The factories that come build in America, we are gonna protect them. They're gonna be successful. That's why they're gonna build in America the greatest economy in the Earth. All of these companies are gonna come and build. So when three of the the president's other economic advisers who are on other networks today say that 50 different countries have been calling the White House to try to talk about the what does that mean? Because that makes it sound like there is a negotiate, which is different from saying the tariffs are permanent. Well, what it shows is that all these countries know that they've been ripping us off, and the day has come for that to end. Now the problem is it's not just tariffs. Like, I'll give you an example. Like, Vietnam said they'd like to be zero zero. Remember, Vietnam sends us a hundred and $20,000,000,000 worth of goods every year. Yes. Cheap menu back. About $12,000,000,000.
Wait. We send them $12,000,000,000. So it's not the tariffs. It has nothing to do with tariffs. If they went to zero zero, they would go to 200,000,000,000
[00:18:28] Unknown:
with us. We need to stop the rip off, and zero zero is is the way Oh, no. But we don't have zero zero, sir. We we don't have zero zero, actually, because when we saw the president stand in the Rose Garden holding up that chart that you helped make, that that wasn't actually tariffs. That was actually confusing to investors because it was some kind of other formula, and the countries themselves seemed kind of random. Like, why are the herd in McDonald Islands, which don't export to The United States and are quite literally inhabited by penguins, why do they face a 10% tariffs? Did you use AI to generate this?
[00:19:07] Unknown:
No. No. The idea look. The idea is Why are they on the list? Left off. Because the idea what happens is if you leave anything off the list, the countries that try to basically arbitrage America go through those countries to us. Any country like, we had tariffs the president put tariffs on China, right, in 2018, and then what China started doing is they started going through other countries to America. They just build through other countries through America. And so the president knows that. He's tired of it, and he's going to fix that. So, basically, he said, look. I can't let any part of the world be a place where China or other countries can ship through them. Through them. So he ended those loopholes, these ridiculous loopholes. And now what he's trying to say is I'm going to fix the trade deficit of The United States Of America. It's a national security issue. We need to make medicine. We need to make semiconductors.
We need to make ships. We need to have steel and aluminum. Come on. We need the greatness of America to actually be built in America, and he's tired of getting ripped off by the rest of the world. Okay. But just to be clear, April 9, the so called retaliatory
[00:20:16] Unknown:
tariffs, the reciprocal tariffs, I should say, are those coming, or are they open to negotiate? The tariffs are coming. He announced it, and he wasn't kidding. The tariffs are coming. Of course, they are. Okay. Is the administration considering any kind of offset, any kind of subsidy? You mentioned the first administration. There was some bailout to farmers to help them deal with the pain from Chinese retaliation. Are you looking at that now?
[00:20:44] Unknown:
Not that I've I have not participated in any meat respect to that. Country is focused on you realize trillions of dollars of factories are gonna be built in America. That's huge GDP. The factories being built in America are huge. That takes years. And you said that robots are gonna fill those jobs. So those aren't union really automated jobs. It's automated factory automated factory. He is who's gonna build the factories, who's gonna operate the factories, who's gonna make them work. Great American workers. You know, we are going to replace on other networks. Army. Millions of people well, remember, the army of millions and millions of human beings screwing in little little screws to make iPhones. That kind of thing is gonna come to America. It's gonna be automated. And great Americans, the trade craft of America, is gonna fix them, is gonna work on them. They're gonna be mechanics. There's gonna be HVAC specialists. There's gonna be electricians. The trade craft of America are high school educated Americans. The core to our workforce is gonna have the greatest resurgence of jobs in the history of America to work on these high-tech factory, which are all coming to America.
[00:21:53] Unknown:
That's what's going to kill the next generation of America. Are you concerned in the time it will take for a company to move to America that it will benefit China in the immediate term, that other markets will look to other suppliers instead of dealing with That is ridiculous.
[00:22:09] Unknown:
The problem is everyone in the world sells to us. Our economy is the consumer of the world. We are the only one with a trade deficit. The rest of the world has a trade surplus. Why does Europe have a trade surplus? Is there something about Europe that's special? Seriously, are they a different world than we are? Why are they selling 200,000,000,080 more to us? It's because it's not fair. The rules are made not fair, and president Trump is going to fix them. Yep. And he's doing it for America, and he's doing it for your children and mine and our grandchildren. This is the moment that The United States Of America takes hold of itself, and Donald Trump's been talking about this his whole life. This is Donald Trump's agenda,
[00:22:56] Unknown:
and we are all here to help him exit it. And we will take him at his word quite literally. Thank you.
[00:23:04] Andrew Hoffman:
So are we getting all the factories back? Are we gonna build things in America again? And or is it a combination, like, was hinted at there of, okay, may well, maybe stuff will be made here, but it'll be automated. It'll be, you know, robots making it. And there will be some jobs for, quote, high school educated people, which, by the way, I'd I don't consider it just high school education if you go and learn a trade. Like, if you're an electrician, that's not just a high school education. You don't learn learn to be an electrician in high school. You don't go to a four year liberal arts university, but it's definitely education happening beyond high school.
So maybe you know, I mean, that's a good new good news for, tradespeople, but there's a there's already a lot of tradespeople jobs out there. I mean, if you're into that sort of thing, kudos to you on, being smart enough to to get into that in the first place. Of course, with the HVAC and the electrician stuff, it kind of reminds me of the the private equity clip and and talking about how lots of the kind of small companies are are purchased, including their name and likeness, not allowed to talk about it. And so you think you're getting your local electrician or local HVAC repair, but it's owned by a much larger company.
And so the illusion of competition in reality, the, you know, the the three HVAC repair guys in town all work for the same company. And what do you know? Their prices all went up. That sort of thing. So it's, you know, it's not a panacea, but globalism is is bad. I mean, this is not working well. We get cheap Chinese junk and the illusion that we you could just keep on buying stuff ad infinitum, and that's it's not working well for anybody. So I'd rather than making it's not like we want to make the cheap Chinese junk here. Right? We but if there is, I don't know, maybe high quality cars, clothes, stuff like that, where, yes, you pay more for it, but it it is created by people with good paying jobs.
And maybe it lasts a long time. Maybe you can buy a car that lasts for thirty years, you know, and and runs efficiently on on gasoline. What a what a novel idea and doesn't have 1,200 semiconductors involved to to make it. So it's there's a lot of possibilities. If Trump and his administration, if their goal is actually what's good for America, there's a lot of stuff that could be done. Very little evidence that it's it's gonna happen. At this point, it kinda looks like my original theory about Trump getting reelected to be kind of the fall guy it's looking fairly accurate. So all this, you know, just how how Biden and then Trump before him, oh, you know, it's look. The terrible economy, it's their fault. Let's not look at globalism. Let's not look at George h w Bush. Let's not look at Ronald Reagan and and Bill Clinton and everything all the way through. So and it's those are just the the presidential puppets. It's really people above them the whole time that that, in general, they don't they don't change till they die off. So so let's transition on that, Trump and the economy to an issue which will come as no shock to you where where I stand on it. It. But, I I really enjoyed this clip from from John Rich. I know he's a musician. I after hearing the clip, I went and listened to some of his music. Some of it's it's got some good songs out there. Maybe maybe there's some John Rich fans in the in the No Pill podcast audience, but, but I enjoyed this, description.
And it's almost worth it. It might be kinda confusing audio only because he's he's pointing at different people and saying, okay. You're you're where, Lindsey Graham was and, you know, I was here and Trump was here, yada yada. So it's if it's confusing to follow, I apologize, but there will be a clip to to go see what what he's pointing at. And and he he does a pretty good Trump impression, and I thought this was a good, a good story.
[00:27:41] Unknown:
We're sitting there, and everybody's eating their food, and and and president Trump is not president this at this time. And he's talking to the senators and talking about really important stuff, and I'm just minding my own business going, I don't know why how I got in this room. Well, it's okay. I'm sitting elbow to elbow with him. It's about an hour into dinner. I hadn't said a word, just been listening. And Trump gets to eat, and then you've seen him do this move right here.
[00:28:07] Unknown:
Yeah.
[00:28:08] Unknown:
And then wherever in the big boardroom he does this. Okay. That's what he does. Mhmm. He he goes, can I ask you a question, John Rich? He never calls me John. John Rich? I look at him and I go, yes, sir. What's the question? He goes, well, you do a lot of big shows. Like, you're an entertainer. Yes, sir. You play for really big crowds? I go, I do. I play for really big crowds for a long time. He goes, well, have you seen these rallies I'm doing? Like, it's thirty, forty thousand people. I said, yeah. It's unbelievable. He goes, so let me he goes, so here's the question. Why are people booing me at my rallies when I bring up the vaccine?
This is the question from the president of The United States. A guy who is very proud at that moment of the fact that he was able to stomp the gas pedal and get that thing out because he's under the impression this is gonna fix the problem. Operation warp speed. That's it. Yeah. Okay. So here's a guy who, to his own admission, one of the biggest egos on the earth. Yeah. And he's very proud of this, and I respect him to there is no limit. Right. But I'm being asked a very direct question. And so, man, I went looked at him and I said, okay.
I'm gonna tell you the answer, and you're not gonna like it. He goes, okay. What's the answer? You're gonna look at me like this? I said, let me start off by saying this. We, the the American people, do not trust the people that you were forced to trust at the time when this was happening. Let's start there. And I said, by the people we don't trust, here's who I mean. The FDA, the CDC, the NIH, the WHO, Fauci, and all the rest of them. I said, mister president, we consider them to be a bunch of murderous depopulationist psychopaths.
[00:29:59] Unknown:
And his reaction was
[00:30:01] Unknown:
That's a good way to say it. Eyes are he goes, unbelievable. Unbelievable. No. He is stunned that I said that. I said, now let me tell you why they're booing you. I said, because all of them, including me, I said, I would boo you. I would boo you. Did you really say that? I would boo you Really? If you brought that up, and here's why. And he's looking at me, and I'm thinking to myself, this is the last time this guy's gonna invite me to anything. Yeah. He's never gonna call me again. I'm throwing massive shade on a former president's Yeah. One in his mind, one of his biggest accomplishments.
Mhmm. And and it dawned on me, nobody had told the man what I was telling him right now because they all work for him. They all got something to gain from him. They're not going to tell him this because they're not serving him well. I don't work for him, and I think a lot of him. And I want him to understand the truth about it. So I said, here's the problem. Here's why they're booing you, mister president. Because every human being out in that rally, either themselves or they know someone directly who has been harmed by the vaccine or has even died from it, including me.
I said I got members of my own family who were forced to take it against their will to keep their jobs, and now they've got all kinds of problems, big problems, heart problems Mhmm. Lung problems. And he's he he's looking at me, and he he looks around the table, and he goes, this is unbelievable. I mean, he goes, is is this does anyone has anyone else heard this? Herschel Walker, mister he was running for senate at the time. He goes, mister president, I mean, down in Georgia, my constituents come up at my rallies, and what what John just said, man, I hear every single day. Looks over at Marsha. Marsha's sitting there going you know, looks around the table. And then Lindsey Graham, who's sitting across so you're here or I'm here.
[00:32:00] Unknown:
I'm sorry, but you're Lindsay. Sorry. No. You're lying. I'm sorry. Lindsay. You're Lindsay.
[00:32:06] Unknown:
I'm sorry. Lindsey Graham and you're me. Okay. As I'm going into the part where I said, even in my own family, I have Lindsey Graham busts in with it swishing his chardonnay around and said, mister president, if you listen to conspiracy like John Risch, the Democrats are gonna take credit for what you did, and they're gonna beat you in the next election with it. Oh. And I so I'm looking at Trump, and he's sitting over there. And he does that, and I looked at him, and I said, do not interrupt me when I'm speaking. Do you understand me? You what? And he and he he looked at me, and he goes, well, I didn't mean to disrespect you. I go, yeah. But you
[00:32:55] Unknown:
did. Oh. So Right now, you look like Wyatt Earp.
[00:33:00] Unknown:
You're you're intimidating. Trump is right here. You're Lindsey Graham. Okay? I go I'm holding him. Oh, good. Yeah. You're Lindsey Graham.
[00:33:07] Unknown:
Graham.
[00:33:08] Unknown:
You're the best president. I look at him one more time. I go, now let me finish what I was saying. Oh, man. And then I finished it. Okay. That's that's the Trump ended that by saying, so I guess no more vaccine talk. I said, I think that's a good idea. I said, I think you're gonna learn a lot about it.
[00:33:31] Unknown:
But, yes, I think that's a good idea because that's the only thing that would make us ever boo you, mister president. You're right. I mean, thank you. But the things that I think a lot of people didn't agree with him on, and it was the vaccine and him being proud of it. And Jason actually has a story that's similar to that.
[00:33:47] Unknown:
The thing about Trump and the vaccine, Trump never mandated the vaccine. No. Exactly. Trump said, you're all the doctors. Go figure out how to make this stop. To make this a And he trusted these people that we now all know were a bunch of depopulationist animals. We all know that now, but he never mandated it because mandating an experimental medical procedure violates the Nuremberg Code. It's a crime against humanity Yeah. Which I hope we see that play out because people need to be held accountable for that in a major way. I think it's I think it will. Yeah. So that was the story there. So, you know, again, he has called me since then. He does text me back from the Super Bowl. He has invited me to so I did not lose my friendship with him. I think if anything, based on a couple of things he's asked me over the last year or so, he probably appreciates the fact that I'll give him say something to him that he don't really wanna hear that. My favorite part of that story is definitely telling Lindsey Graham not to interrupt him. And the description of Lindsey Graham
[00:34:49] Andrew Hoffman:
being all pro vax, boy, does that ring true. Lindsey Graham it used to be John McCain and Lindsey Graham. But if there is one pure new world order serving a Satan in congress, it is Lindsey Graham. He's always on the wrong side every single issue. He's in favor of every war, you know, for big pharma, against anything that would be good. And this shows how our political system is broken because he just keeps on getting elected. It doesn't matter how many people don't like him, still in in power, as they say. So that's it's an interesting story and it an interesting insight into the bubble of Trump seemingly not hearing from a lot of people that people hate the vaccine. Like, he eventually figured it out. But this was, you know, Alex Jones talked about trying to get people close to Trump to talk to him about it and him blowing it off and saying, don't don't bring that up again, that sort of thing. Of of course, Alex Jones also said that would be the dividing line. I mean, he would never support Trump if Trump didn't apologize for the vaccine, and we all know how how that worked out. So that's it's kind of a somewhat hopeful, somewhat discouraging story there on Trump.
Definitely rings true. I have no way of verifying whether that that dinner happened or not. But this kinda leads into the online controversy RFK Jr, which I use a ton of children's health defense stuff. I used to play clips from, RFK Jr's podcast on Revelations Radio News. So I have a a lot of respect for him and was very disappointed with this this post. Let me pull it up here. This is from the secretary Kennedy x account. I don't think he was you know, I thought maybe that editorial that got posted, you know, the headline maybe came from someone else because that's how it works in news you know, back in the day in newspapers and and currently with online publishing.
Sometimes different people write the headlines and wrote the the letter, the the article, or what have you. But this comes from him, and I haven't heard him saying it's it's not from him or not what he he believes. So, he talks about going to Texas for the measles outbreak. And in early early March, I deployed a CDC team to bolster local and state capacity for response across multiple Texas regions, supply pharmacies in Texas run clinics with needed MMR vaccines and other medicines and medical supplies, work with local schools and health care facilities to support contact investigations, and to reach out to communities, including faith leaders, to answer any questions or respond to locations seeking health care. Since that time, the growth rates for new cases and hospitalizations have flattened.
The most effective way to prevent the spread of measles is the MMR vaccine. This this is a problem. I've spoken to Governor Abbott and offered HHS's continued support. At his request, we have redeployed CDC teams to Texas. We will continue to follow Texas's lead and offer similar resources to other affected jurisdictions. So the, the most effective way to prevent the spread of measles is the MMR vaccine is definitely the part that stuck out to people and, you know, definitely me me included there. So this it's it's tough to sugarcoat that. So I'll say at least Children's Health Defense itself, definitely made clear where they stand. And so I've got a clip from and this, I believe, was recorded previously. This is just a more general clip. So Mary Holland is the head of Children's Health Defense. She's a lawyer. And, as you'll hear in the clip, is the the parent of a vaccine injured child.
And it's you know, listen to what she has to say, and then we'll talk a little bit more about this whole, RFK Jr. Thing. And I think the positive fact that vaccine safety is definitely more a a talking point than it was, you know, pick a number of years before. Basically, any anytime pre COVID, definitely a bigger deal now.
[00:39:27] Unknown:
Right. So I have an adult son who's vaccine injured. And just to say that this didn't all start with COVID, and the the roots are deeper, and the harms are deeper, and the remedies have to be deeper. And kids are the most vulnerable. I say, you know, kids can't pay off. They can't vote. They can't pay off politicians. They they can't speak young children. They can't fully advocate for themselves. The they are the most vulnerable. Elderly people are vulnerable. They may be more feeble. They may be more have chronic disease burden, but they're not as vulnerable as children. And the worst that we do in our global society when it comes to, you know, iatrogenesis, harm from medicine, is to fetuses and to children. There's no question about it. So pregnant women right now in this country are recommended to get four shots while they're pregnant. There is no science underlining this. They are recommended to get a COVID shot, an RSV shot, a Tdap shot, and a flu shot. They are recommended to get all of those by the Centers for Disease Control right now while they're pregnant. Then on the day of birth, a baby is expected to get a hepatitis b shot. In some places like New York City, literally, you cannot deliver in any hospital a baby who will not get that hep b shot on the day of birth. And then there's the two month shots. There's the four month shots. There's the six month shots. There's the twelve month or fifteen month shots.
Literally, I learned yesterday, Friday. On Friday, I learned of a baby that was taken into a Rochester hospital this past week at 12. The baby was not well. They on the medical charts, it said things like the baby, has eczema. The baby has a rash. The baby is constipated, but the practitioner said, oh, no problem. We do this all the time. Gave the baby six shots, hepatitis A, MMR, Varicella, DTaP, something, a couple others. And the baby was after having four seizures, the baby was dead within a day. This is in Rochester this week, and this is happening around the country. So what keeps me up at night is is the children. They are the most affected, and they can't do anything about it on their own.
So it's again, it's on us. We're the ones who are awake. We have to really mobilize to stop this. So what does that mean? It means we have to end medical mandates. Medical mandates are coercion. Full stop. Right? We've got to stop the mandates. In the short run, obviously, we need a religious exemption back in New York State. We've got to stop persecution of the doctors who grant medical exemptions. Right? I mean, this is this is step one. May 14, we will have a demonstration in Albany. Put it in your books. May 14 is a demonstration in Albany with, you know, with with all of the movement and people in politics who support us.
[00:42:41] Andrew Hoffman:
Mary Holland brings the brings the heat there and definitely doesn't sound like someone who is, gonna be letting children's health defense get merged into this weird political, oh, let's just, you know, stop drinking Coca Cola and everything will be fine, and let's not talk about vaccines. So it's there's no vaccines are the best way to prevent anything in what she said there. So I'd I appreciate that. And everything I've seen from Children's Health Defense, I mean, I used to look at it on a fairly regular basis, but much more so now, and it's only gotten better.
I mean, when when you have James Corbett on as a regular guest on on their their shows, that's that's definitely a good thing. So I love children's health health defense. It's one of the few things I've I've given money to to support. And I I think it's a good organization, and I haven't regretted that. So, and now as far as the Kennedy things goes, I think there there's a potential overreaction to it. And I'll I'll play this Greg Rees video or just the audio from it, see what you think, see if this is overreaction or a proper reaction. I think he raises some interesting points as, with some interesting speculation on why RFK Jr.
Would put out that terrible statement on the MMR preventing measles.
[00:44:25] Unknown:
Yesterday, RFK Jr. Addressed the public about a measles outbreak, saying that there are six hundred and forty two confirmed cases across 22 states. He said that in early March, he deployed a CDC team to bolster capacity for response and to supply pharmacies and clinics with needed MMR vaccines and other medicines and medical supplies. He concluded by stating that the most effective way to prevent the spread of measles is the MMR vaccine. I've spoken to governor Abbott, and I've offered HHS's continued support. At his request, we have redeployed CDC teams to Texas. We will continue to follow Texas's lead and to offer similar resources to other affected jurisdictions.
The power of rhetoric is that it seems to work without fail in every election, and so many are surprised to see this complete reversal to what he was saying before the twenty twenty four election.
[00:45:29] Unknown:
If your kids were young now, would you give them the measles, the mumps vaccine? No.
[00:45:36] Unknown:
I got measles, mumps. When I was a kid, it was Lots of people die from them. Used to die from those Oh, well, you know what? They died in the nineteen hundreds or early nineteen hundreds. There were about ten thousand Americans a year died. In 1964, there was about three or four hundred who died, and they were almost all, severely malnourished kids mainly from the Mississippi Delta. This is before the poverty program, so there was a lot of starving children in our country. It's very, very hard to kill a healthy child with any infectious disease, but particularly with measles. And the World Health Organization now says vitamin a is a absolute cure for measles, which we didn't know about back then. Back then, you know, we were treated with chicken soup, and and it was, you know, a a week at home watching leave it to beaver, and every kid caught it. Every single kid got it. And I had 11 brothers and sisters, and we all got it, and we're all fine. And there are lots and lots of studies out there now that show that kids who get measles as a child are much healthier when they grow up, that they're much more resistant to cancers, to atopic diseases, to allergies, and to, and to heart disease.
Nobody died in Samoa from measles. They were dying from a bad vaccine, and they the vaccine was imported from Australia and given to people who had measles, which is which is not recommended. The same measles outbreak hit Tonga, which is the neighboring island, and nobody died because they didn't get the vaccine.
[00:47:13] Unknown:
RFK Junior admitted to being on Jeffrey Epstein's plane three times. You weren't ever on Jeffrey Epstein's jet, were you?
[00:47:23] Unknown:
I was on Jeffrey Epstein's jet two times. I was on it, in 1993, and I was on it in and I went to Florida with my wife and, two children to visit my mom over Easter. My my wife had some kind of relationship with Ghislaine Maxwell.
[00:47:48] Unknown:
He said his wife was friends with Ghislaine Maxwell, whose father, Robert Maxwell, was a Zionist and a high level spy for Israel and Mossad. And like all of the Maga Maga cabinet, loyalty to Israeli Zionism is first and foremost. Everything else is just rhetoric. While Israel beats the drums for war with Iran, The US Secretary Of Health And Human Services prescribes the MMR vaccine to keep Americans dead and confused.
[00:48:21] Andrew Hoffman:
So it's it was an interesting production there from Greg Rees. I was enjoying I always enjoy hearing what he has to say. I'm not quite as skeptical of Kennedy. There does seem to be some blackmail there though. There does seem to be some compromises being made, very similar to the Trump situation where I don't know if they, you know, half jokingly, I say when they they took him in for COVID, they gave him the choice of either, death by remdesivir or he made a deal and and he made a deal. But there was I mean, there's Epstein stuff with Trump from way back and and other similar issues too. So there's you know, these are not perfect people by any means.
It shouldn't be that hard to find people that haven't been on Epstein's plane. But at the same time, you know, we'll we'll judge the tree by its fruits there and and see how the the Kennedy, make America healthy again situation plays out. But on the the positive side, since COVID, there there's definitely been a dividing, between people kinda either you're either on the side of truth and you're gonna see how far that that journey takes you and you're sticking with the system, and we can just kinda disregard the people that were were pro COVID vaxxed and, well, they they kinda showed where they stand. So not really not really any need to to pay attention to them if if they didn't get that one right. So one of my my favorite people and someone who's been very consistent in pointing out the problems with vaccines, used man, I I used to hear her on the Alex Jones Show, I don't know, ten, fifteen years ago. I don't even know if he has her on anymore. He doesn't seem to to have as many guests as he used to or or kind of a different type of guest. But, doctor Sherry Tenpenny, and definitely someone heavily attacked, as far as censorship goes, what have you.
But she's she's still saying the same stuff she's been saying, but always adds some interesting specific details and and what have you. So we'll we'll I'll just go ahead and play both, Sherry Tenpenny clips and talk to you after that. Thank you.
[00:50:56] Unknown:
Every single vaccine that you inject, every single one causes harm. Now it may not lead you into a seizure disorder or cause SIDS, but what if it just shaves a few IQ points off? What if you start to have allergies? What if you start to have food intolerances and GI issues and you start to wheeze and have asthma or you have eczema? Every single one is poisonous, and injecting poison into your body causes harm. And none of them are necessary. I mean, you know this, Paul, because you have large segment of unvaccinated kids in your practice. I've seen a lot of unvaccinated kids in my practice over the years, and they're always the smartest, the most inquisitive.
They're ahead of the curve on their milestones. They're speaking earlier. They don't have any illnesses. The only time they come to see you is once a year for a school physical, you know, so they can play sports. They don't have inhalers and drugs and shots and all these other things. And so that to sum that up, they're not not been proven to be safe. They don't protect you from getting sick. Every single one of them causes some degree of harm,
[00:52:06] Unknown:
some more than others, and none were necessary. Well, hello, everyone. This is doctor Sherry Timpenny from Cleveland, Ohio. I was thinking the other day about how we have been conditioned to believe that vaccines are safe, effective, necessary, and harmless. They are none of those things. In fact, they are systematic poisoning of children and adults across the world. They are injecting aluminum, polysorbate 80, animal cells, cells from aborted fetal tissue, and almost all the the vaccines in the pediatric schedule contain cow blood, chicken blood, chicken parts, and a long list of chemicals.
So I've decided that from now on, I'm not ever gonna talk about the pediatric vaccination schedule. I believe it's time that we call it what it is and start calling it the pediatric poisoning schedule, where children get three injections of poison right after they're born, where they mothers get four to five injections of poison before the baby is even born. And then at two, four, and six months, they get seven more injections of poisons by the time they are one year of age. That children now get around 20 shots of poison by the time they're six months of age.
They get up to almost 30 by the time they're a year and almost 40 by the time they start kindergarten. So let's start a revolution, and let's start calling it what it is. Not the pediatric vaccination schedule, but the pediatric poisoning schedule that parents are berated into making sure they give all those dose doses of poison on time.
[00:54:02] Andrew Hoffman:
Love those posts from doctor Tenpenny, and it's being an anti vaxxer means you're against pediatric poisoning. So just a more truthful way of saying it there. So I enjoyed those clips. There are no good vaccines. There's no safe vaccines. There's no effective vaccines. Every single vaccine is a scam. It's not a some good, some bad situation. It is a none of them work. All of them are poison. And like she said, all of them cause some degree of harm. It might not be might not be death. It might not be like those three kids in Phoenix the other day or that that poor baby or small child that showed up and got six six injections at one appointment and was dead a day later after a bunch of seizures, in New York the other day.
But it's there's harm, and there is and it is a cumulative harm and and process that's ongoing. And because of the, I guess you could say, greed of pharmaceutical companies, but I think more so than that, there's a a demonic energy, demonic, intent behind the whole vaccination thing. And one aspect of that that we've we've talked about frequently is the using aborted babies, aborted human babies, which is certainly, you know, definitely the worst ingredient in in vaccines and vaccine development, creating the market for and the market incentives for abortion, what have you.
But this was another post from doctor Tenpenny that I wasn't aware of these details. You hear the ingredients, bovine fetal blood, and it certainly doesn't sound good. I don't want that injected into my kids, but the the process of how they obtain it is really heinous. And I'll I'll read through that in a a second. But when I was reading this, it it kinda reminded me of Old Testament passages where god is telling the priests how to slaughter cows and goats and lambs and what have you. Very specific instructions. And at some level, it's like, well, that's unnecessary details. I mean, it's a cow. You're you're killing the cow.
But there is going back, you know, six thousand years, there is a a satanic element, an idol worship element to to killing animals and and doing, you know, doing a certain way, drinking blood. And we've in our modern age of scientism, we're just finding a a different way of doing those same demonic things. And and here is the the description of how bovine fetal blood is harvested for vaccines. So cows are occasionally sent to slaughter because they are crippled or to simply thin a herd. If a cow is found to be pregnant during the removal of its internal organs, the uterus is quickly moved to a specialized extraction area so the fetal blood can be harvested within thirty minutes of the mother's demise.
This is done by inserting a sterile vacuum collection apparatus directly into the heart. The fetus must be at least three months of age or the heart is too small for puncture. A three month fetus yields about a 50 cc's of serum, while a near term fetus, nine months, can yield up to 550 cc's. The heart must be beating to ensure the blood remain uncoagulated and all blood can be extracted from the fetus. Therefore, it is presumed that the fetus is alive at the time of extraction. Approximately 500,000 liters or 132,000 gallons of fetal bovine serum are sold per year, which means at least 1,000,000 unborn calf fetuses are subjected to the brutal harvesting procedure every year.
So just something to think about there. And in on the topic of people who have have gotten better on from COVID on, this was a refreshing, refreshing clip to hear from doctor Pierre Kory. He is on there with Royce White. Royce White does some good good interviews. And talking about the question I think I got the question in in the clip, but he he asked him, you know, what would you change with the medical system? And Pierre Kory, he was good during COVID. But as you'll hear, he's gone down the what are the good vaccine, rabbit hole and found out that there aren't any. So it's this is this will be our last clip. I'll I'll be back to to wrap it up after this.
[00:59:25] Unknown:
As a lifelong doctor, if there was one thing you could change, if there was one institution, policy, practice thing that you've seen in the industry over your career that you would change, what would it be? I I would dismantle
[00:59:39] Unknown:
the whole vaccine apparatus, I think, for for several reasons. I think that they're destroying the health of our children and our country. Do you know what it's like for a family to have an autistic kid who's nonverbal? Their entire lives are altered from that moment forth. I have patients who have vaccine injured autistic kids who are totally dependent on them, even as adults. They know their kids will never leave the house. They need to be home all the time. Caring for someone like that is so destructive to not only the child's lives, the parents' lives, and there's many, many of them out there. That's just one little snip of the vaccines. And number two, like I said, they're unnecessary. They're built on myths.
And and the illnesses that are exploding, like this chronic disease epidemic that Bobby talks about, a lot of us talk about, yeah, there's other causes. Right? Our food is getting polluted, our food additives, agriculture, pesticides, but vaccine's a huge one. And, I know the data. Unvaccinated children are far, far healthier than others. And then so what would someone scream at me when I say that? They'd be like, oh, you want a child to die from measles? I'm like, are you kidding me? You know how many kids die from measles? It's extremely rare. They'll tell me if we get rid of the vaccines it'll come back. Not true. That's not what drove all the measles epidemics in the past. That's number one. Number two, we have really good antivirals. I know of a few more which you can talk about later on that I've discovered, but we have ways to treat those illnesses that you just don't need the vaccines.
And I just think, in terms of health, I am so angry for having been lied to for so long. The books that they write about vaccines are are just false. They're false. And and remember, the entire legislation in 1985 came about because the vaccine manufacturers threatened to stop manufacturing vaccines. Why? Because and it's in the act in 1995. Because they were deemed unavoidably unsafe, and they could not be liable anymore for all the injuries they were causing. So what happens is congress gives them immunity. And what do they do with that immunity? They explode our schedule, and they're jabbing every kid, and they're weaponizing. They're using legal mandates. You know, kids can't go to school in a lot of states and and communities without getting fully vaccinated. And you how many patients I have family, like parents come to me to save their children?
And in some in some states, if they come to me, I tell them, here are your options, homeschool or move. Not everyone's got the disposable cash to do those two things. They're working all day. They can't can't just decide to homeschool and, like but they many of them are brought to that decision point because they don't want their kids to get vaccinated. And so I gotta tell you, I would I think that whole vaccine myth needs to be taken down slowly or quickly or somehow, but people need to educate themselves on that. And I I include all of the doctors, and I would offer two books. One is Dissolving Illusions by Kathleen Humphreys, and the other one is a masterpiece of an academic work called Turtles All the Way Down, written by five, anonymous Israeli scientists. And they so expertly go through the entire evidence base for vaccines, and it's a devastating conclusion that we've been lied to around vaccines for so long.
[01:03:00] Andrew Hoffman:
I have not read Dissolving Illusions by Suzanne Humphreys, but she does have an important distinction. She was the guest on the Joe Rogan experience that that resulted in me listening to an entire episode of of Joe Rogan, beginning to end. So so Suzanne Humphries, I've I very much enjoyed that that interview. I thought she did a great job. There's always people nitpicking. Oh, you she said this. That wasn't quite right or yada yada, but she she did a really great job. If you haven't heard that already, that's a good interview. And if you've got an extra copy of that book lying around and you wanna send it to me, I would greatly appreciate it. But that was a worthwhile thing to hear, good book recommendations. I've obviously heard of Turtles All the Way Down as well, but that's another one I I have not read. So, if if people have also recommend that, I'd I'd love to hear hear more about it. So thank you so much for listening on this this April day or whenever you're listening to the the podcast. I really, really do appreciate it.
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You can reach me via email at [email protected]. Once again, [email protected]. Love to hear from you, especially if you, followed me over from the Revelations Radio News Days. Again, thanks for listening, and have a blessed day. Hang in there. I'd you know, there's a lot of bad stuff going on, but a lot of good stuff. We are living through the the governing by whipsaw, And just remember that it's it's okay to be an anti vaxxer, and it's okay to be against pediatric poisoning. Have a great day.
Introduction and Episode Overview
Understanding Tariffs and Trade Balance
Implementing Tariffs: Challenges and Expectations
Economic Impacts of Tariffs
Reindustrializing America: A National Security Issue
Trump's Vaccine Controversy
RFK Jr.'s Stance on Vaccines
Critique of the Vaccine System
Dismantling the Vaccine Apparatus
Closing Remarks and Listener Engagement
