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In this episode, Andrew Hoffman delves into the controversial topic of a measles outbreak among the Mennonite community in Texas, focusing on the tragic death of a six-year-old girl named Kaylee. The episode features an emotional interview with Kaylee's parents, who recount their experiences with the healthcare system and the treatments their daughter received. Andrew discusses the broader implications of media coverage on measles versus other health issues, highlighting a tweet by Vance Murphy that questions the media's focus on measles deaths over other health concerns. The episode also touches on the role of the Children's Health Defense and Dr. Ben Edwards in providing alternative treatments for measles, which reportedly showed positive results in other children. The episode transitions into a discussion on the economic impact of private equity firms on businesses, drawing parallels to the 2008 financial crisis. Andrew explores how these firms use adjustable rate loans to acquire businesses, leading to a potential economic collapse as interest rates rise. The episode also critiques the political landscape, mentioning the withdrawal of Dave Weldon's nomination for CDC director due to his stance on vaccine safety. Finally, Andrew wraps up with a light-hearted critique of space exploration narratives, questioning the authenticity of recent space missions and the portrayal of space travel in media.

[00:00:48] Andrew Hoffman:

Hello, everybody. This is Andrew Hoffman,   podcasting from Piedmont, Oklahoma.   A windy Piedmont, Oklahoma   as we speak here in the March,   March eighteenth '20 '20 '5.   And almost did an episode last night and then ran into   an a story that's gonna be a big part of this one and I think is is quite important.   We're we're gonna call this one Mennonites versus Measles,   and that's the story that that we'll look at. We've talked about the measles outbreak in   supposed measles outbreak in Texas   and supposed death for measles. And I I gave my own speculation on that   couple episodes ago,   but now we have some actual   firsthand accounts from the the parents of the the poor little girl that that passed away. So,   if you haven't   seen that, make sure to to stay   stay tuned   for that interview. It is quite powerful.  

But before we get into that,   before we get into the   the one death that was hyped up,   I thought this was an interesting   tweet from   Vance Murphy on Twitter.   Thirty five hundred SIDS deaths in The United States last year, zero news coverage.   One suspicious measles death, and it's in the news for weeks.   Meanwhile, I've ignored every single CDC recommendation for my child, and he is thriving. He's got a little little baby boy there.   So that's I thought that was a a good tweet, and it it is interesting what they focus on. Right? So they   hype up the measles   because they there's   a, quote, solution   to the measles, and that's to get everyone vaccinated.  

Definitely a major agenda. So let's let's get into,   the Children's Health Defense did I mean, they they went down there and interviewed the parents   very I mean, they they had five kids, now they have four kids,   but, yeah, they seem very young   young parents and just,   I mean, such courage to to be able to show up and and talk to the interviewers   and go through,   the the mother did   break down crying at one point.   But, I mean, what what courage to share   share what happened.   And,   because I'm I'm sure on the other side of things,   there's a lot of force being exerted on them,   from the other direction.  

So I'm glad to see them   stand up for   their daughter and what happened to her and to tell the truth. So   let's get right into that. Children's health defense, this interview,   with Kaylee's parents.  

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How many children do you have?  

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We have four now. Four children. And,  

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all of the children got measles, correct? Yes. So who got measles first?  

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Kaylee. The one that passed away. And how old was she? She's six.  

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And so, what happened when how did you know it was measles? Was there other children around you who had it? Yes. We Yes. Kind of knew that it was measles because we've heard that  

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there are measles going around. Right? Well,  

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she's starting off having measles and it was a typical normal measles case and then something happened that developed?  

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It was normal. Like, just like our other kids did. They were starting to disappear   and then she just her fever doesn't didn't wanna go away. She was having the fever still and It's higher and getting higher and higher. The fever.   Yeah. And then she just I just noticed one morning that she was saying she was getting very tired and I was just noticing her breathing wasn't normal.   That's when we just decided to go to the emergency and get it checked out. There wasn't anything   bad, like very very bad. Like, it just was something that I was I was concerned about. That was Were you treating her with anything before for the measles or the breathless and as a chef? I was at the doctor   the Monday. She got her she got her measles on a Saturday and then I went to the doctors on Monday   just   to see if they could give me anything and they didn't give me anything for that.  

Just something for her cough.   And then they send me back home.  

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And, yeah, that's What were about for the fever? Did they tell you They just told me to give her Tylenol. That's Okay. So she had Tylenol. Yes. Very interesting. And so when you you went to the hospital   because she was a bit short of breath? Yes. And what happened when you got there?  

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They   they just they put us on an emergency room in the back.  

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Did they ask you about her vaccination status?   They are I think they asked me if she was vaccinated. Do we? Did they tell you what was wrong, you know, that because you went in with measles. Did they say to you there's something else going on here?  

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They were testing her and they said that she had pneumonia.   And her left side of And her left was long. Yeah.  

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A little. They're just tracking.  

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Just tracking that little Pneumonia. Yeah. No pneumonia. Fluid on the lungs. Yeah. Okay. But they said that if it would if it would get worse, they would   probably drain the fluids and they would get better. But they never did.   I don't know why not. They didn't tell us, but yeah.  

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Did they,   did they ever talk about,   a breathing treatment with you or or did you ever did you ever mention a breathing treatment for your daughter,   before she went into ICU?  

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Yes. Just before she got into ICU, the the one nurse mentioned that or she was talking about breathing treatments,   but that's when they transferred her downstairs.   And then I asked the nurse later if they were still gonna do some breathing treatments, and she just said that it wasn't gonna do her any good.   Okay. I don't know. They just said it wouldn't do her. There's no no explanation.  

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And how was she  

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at this point? Was she chatting to you? Were you Yeah. She was getting very tired of talking. She didn't wanna talk because her breathing was   very bad. Right. She was still up and about. I gave her she was drinking a lot, which was good. She wasn't eating any not much because her mouth was very sore Right. On the inside.   She couldn't really eat anything.   But you said her spots were going by the stage. Yeah. There was only a little bit on her arms to see still   and her legs a little bit. Not nothing   bad.  

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The face was cleared off already. Okay. The face The face The stomach. Just going down. And then just like the other kids. They're the same.  

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Right. When she went into ICU,   at first, you were allowed in with her,   when they when they,   put her on the mechanical ventilator?  

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Did they allow you in for that? Or No. When they put her on the ventilator, that's when we couldn't we could be there on at the day,   but not at the night, like Not at the night. Not for the night.   Why can't you be that night? I don't know. They just told us that they were gonna rent us a hotel nearby, and that's where we're supposed to stay spend the night.   Because the room was very small, there wasn't anything   in there that we could sleep. There were like there are barely two chairs in one corner that were very tight.   Right. So that's I guess they just felt that   it would be better for us to go to the hotel or something. I don't know. So when you left that night to go to the hotel, was she could she still communicate with you? No. That's when she was I don't know what they call it, sedated her.  



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Sedated  

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and intubated. Yes. Intubated her. Yes. So she was asleep the whole time until, yeah, she was gone.  

[00:08:37] Andrew Hoffman:

So the mother took   the took the little girl, the six year old girl, Kaylee,   to the doctor with measles,   and he just said, just give her some Tylenol for the   and here's some some   cough medicine, which may have been the same thing or it might have been two two different things. But   it's no vitamin a, no other known treatments for measles, even though it's obviously measles.   Takes her home.   The fever is still going up, so they take her to the ER.   ER,   you know, the nurse says, oh, well, you know, it's pneumonia. We might do might have to drain the lungs,   might give her some breathing treatments.  

Do none of that.   Then it shifts to intensive care. And you don't need everyone in the hospital in on it. You just need one tiny little department   in on it or that you know is gonna follow orders.   They put her on   a a six year old who's up walking around   still, you know, drinking water, able to able to talk,   and   put her on mechanical   they sedated her, intubated her, and put her on mechanical ventilation.   This is   I mean, if this should sound very familiar. This is what they did during COVID to get the COVID death numbers up, and they they needed a measles death. So we're gonna   we got one with measles.  

Who cares if the measles is getting better and that it's very treatable, pneumonia, and we can take care of that.   We're gonna slap her on a ventilator and tell the parents to take a hike. And getting the getting the parents, getting other family members out of the hospital, that's another COVID thing. So now they didn't have the   the pandemic   excuse for it in this case. But, man, this   the first time I listened to this, it it was very difficult to listen to that.   So, well, let's move into part two.   I promise, you know, obviously, you know how the story ends. There's no happy ending to the story, but I think there is,   if you haven't heard from these people before, there is  

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a positive ending that we'll hear from them. If you went to that that second day, when she was in ICU and she was asleep,   because she was sedated,   did they give you any prognosis? Or did they talk about how she was torn or anything at that point?  

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We did ask them, but they said it was about the same. It was just we will give it a couple of days and see if it would get better, but it was about the same. That's what they told me. That's what the doctor told us. Just couple of days,  

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she will get better.  

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Yeah. The   so his parents came look,   yeah, look at her and   so we just figured that we would go back with them and then stay stay the night at his parents' house with the kids a bit and then we'll go   early morning and go back  

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to Lubbock. How old do you have the children?  

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Seven,   five,   three, and two.  

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And did they come in to see Yeah. They didn't let them.  

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Like, there were a lot of people coming in and out, kids, everything. Just our kids weren't allowed to come.  

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Come in? Come here. The hospital This is something like that. Why? I don't know. Because I guess, I don't know.   What?   Measles. So I don't know. So that your other children had measles at this point? Not not that time. Not that point. Not that time. Not that time. Not that time. Not that time. Not that time. Not that time. When did the hospital then call you? At   When did the hospital then call you? About   04:30. Around 04:30. Around 04:30. No.   Who answered the phone? I did. What did they say? They said she was getting very bad. We had to go   we had to come really fast to the hospital   really quick.  

And then we did.   We went really fast, and when we almost there, like, fifty minutes away,   the   and and so I saw it on my phone when I   looked at it, but I didn't notice.   But they called her and and asked for  

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They could put her on the life support. That was probably the only   thing that could save her life at this point. So that was They were asking me if it was okay if they would   put her on life support and I said, yes, whatever it takes to Save her. Save her.  

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Did they say anything else at that point? Or They they just let us in and look at Did you just We just we just went in and they  

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told told us to go in back onto the waiting room and wait Okay.   And wait there until they were done with whatever they were going to do, put her on life support or   but it didn't take very long for the doctor to come back in there, and he just said that she was probably too sick   to put her on life support and her brain was probably already passed away anyway. So   then that's   we're just, we just went back in there with Kaylee with her and Les.   Mhmm.  

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It's very hard to be both. I'm so sorry. Well,   let's talk about your other children. When did they get measles?  

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Our children? Children?   Yeah. That one They got   two days later when she passed.   How was that?  

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Which must have been petrifying for you after what you've just been through, and suddenly your children have measles again.   You must have been thinking  

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It was hard. Yeah. I I even me, I got the measles after, like, I had them right the day that her funeral was. You got measles as well? They're older. Did did you get the MMR Mm-mm. As a child?   I don't know. My mom says that I got the vaccines.  

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So you probably did. And you still got measles? I don't know. Did you get measles?  

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Just,  

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chicken pox. Didn't get them very bad, but yeah, I did get them. And so your other children that got measles,  

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how did they do? Very good.  

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Yeah. Doctor Ben came helping us, and   he gave them treatments or like, yeah, some medicine, and they had a really good quick recovery. Like, when their measles started to go away, they got better. Like Really good. But she didn't even get to meet doctor Ben Edwards? No. At that time? Not at that time. We didn't even know that She was there. He says stuff that way.  

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Did they, did your other kids have any trouble breathing or have a cough?  

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They did have a cough, but not really, not trouble breathing.   Not that I'm bored. But we started   the same day with the breathing treatment. We did give them a little breathing treatment for the cough and everything. So, yeah, that was helping them a lot.   So that's it. Very, very good.  

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It took   five days when they got it when they got it over five days. Five days from the spot. From the start.  

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Oh my goodness. So the treatment was amazing, five rear ender, which   Carl didn't get.  

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No. She didn't get it.  

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And do you have a death certificate yet with the cause of death?  

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No. Not yet. Not yet. Still waiting on it. But they said she had pneumonia. Correct? Yes. They did. Just they she had pneumonia. It was a type of pneumonia that's bacterial.   A type of bacteria that's hard to treat,   called mycoplasma.   And   that is   how she died of   pneumonia.   She was on an antibiotic,   but she did not receive breathing treatment. Have you done it this time?   And instead was used mechanical   ventilation. So it's, you know  

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So we we spent the morning at the clinic, doctor Bennett's clinic, and some real sick and big rashes. And the parents are all still sitting there saying they would rather have this than the MMR   vaccination because they've seen so much injury, which Yeah. We have as well.   Do you still feel the same way about the MMR vaccine versus measles and the proper treatment with doctor Ben Edwards?  

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Yes. Absolutely. But we would absolutely   not take the m m MMR.   Like, the measles wasn't that bad. They got over it Yeah. It's too much. Pretty quickly, and   and doctor Edwards was there for us. So That's that's amazing. Yeah. He was  

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he was great.  

[00:17:12] Andrew Hoffman:

So the doctor Ben that's referenced in that   interview is doctor Ben Edwards   and Children's Health Defense did an interview with him. This is back from March 5.   Just the headline is just normal doctoring, a Texas doctor's eyewitness report on measles outbreak.   So health and   human HHS secretary,   Robert f Kennedy junior,   on Tuesday cheered the use of what the New York Times called unconventional   treatments for measles,   noting that Texas doctors had seen   very, very good results using the remedies during the recent measles outbreak in Gaines County. Treatments included cod liver oil, a food based source of vitamin a and vitamin d,   budesonide,   a steroid used   to relieve inflammation affecting the airways, and   clarithromycin,   an antibiotic.  

In an exclusive interview with the defender, doctor Ben Edwards shared the backstory on the positive results that he and other Texas doctors have recently seen   using those treatments in responding to the West Texas measles outbreak.   The standard of care treatment for measles is supportive care, including   fever reducers,   cough suppressants, and fluids, Edward said.   Texas Medical Board rule 200 allows for Texas physicians to also offer complimentary and alternative treatment options in which he is well versed.   So the standard of care,   which is what the poor girl that died got initially in the hospital was,   her her initial doctor visit was fever reducers, cough suppressants, and fluids. That's   it. According to Edwards, the February 26 death of a Texas child who tested positive for measles might have been prevented if hospital staff had given her breathing treatments   such as budesonide.  

Budesonide has historically been used in asthma   asthma exacerbations,   Edward said. But during COVID, many physicians learned of its very beneficial role   in treating the inflammation triggered by respiratory viruses.   Edwards is an integrated family met family practitioner in Lubbock who runs a private practice serving roughly 2,000 patients. Lubbock Lubbock is about an hour and a half north of Gaines County where the current case number is highest. On Saturday, March 2, Edwards received a call from Gaines County resident, Tina Siemens.   Tina said that the little girl who died, her parents were real worried about the four other siblings that were mostly younger, and could I come see them?  

Edwards drove down.   I'm at the one church. The viewing's going on for the child who passed away. Lots of people there. Those kids were there, and so I assessed and treated them. He wrote a prescription for budesonide,   a steroid inhaler   that is traditionally used for asthma,   which can be very beneficial with the respiratory portion of a measles infection.   Edwards also gave the children cow liver oil because that's the best form of vitamin a. Vitamin a deficiency makes measles much worse. Edwards said, the measles infection all by itself will deplete you of retinol, which is vitamin a.   Before driving home, he also assessed two four month old twin boys, cousins of the deceased child who were also sick with measles.  

One of the babies was clinically in not good condition. He said lethargic, pale, heart rate elevated, respiratory rate elevated with mild to moderate respiratory distress.   Just a really sick baby.   He gave the the babies cod liver oil and   prescribed budesonide,   which he then picked up from the pharmacy and delivered to the family. I saw the child the next morning, Edward said. He looked like a completely different child. I thought it must be a mistake. This can't be the same child, just the life that was back in his eyes was incredible.   That was the first indication to me that budesonide was really going to be a miracle worker, he added. After that, Edwards helped facilitate what he called the massive and amazing team effort to swiftly get high quality cod liver oil and be decined to the sick children in Gaines County. When a community comes together in unity, in love, and wants to help each other, it's amazing what can happen, he said. On Sunday, a cod liver oil supplier called Jigsaw was able to accommodate the group's large order. One of Edward's patients, a private plane pilot, offered to immediately deliver the oil.  

So that plane took off, got 1,700 pounds of cod liver oil and vitamin c, and was back on the ground in Gaines County Sunday afternoon at at 02:30.   Alright. So   and I don't   I mean, they came up with one other death, but it wasn't in this area. So   so now   we've got   stuff that works. It obviously works. It's been known to work before,   shown to work now,   and this is the controversial   stuff. So,   let's see.   And it and it's still, like, oh, Kennedy's a kook for saying they should get vitamin a. But, anyway, so   that is,   that article. The there is some more to it. I'll put that in the show notes on the substack as well. And let's get into   the third part.  

This talks about,   the parents talk about, you know, people reaching out to them and what have  

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you. Anything we can do for you, the community can do for you? Just, I guess, pray and Just pray for us. That's the best I can do for now. That's what I can think about. Pray God is the the best,   the   most the powerful.   He can do everything.   Amen. Amen. And it's all, Yeah. God  

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he wanted this to wake people up. Yeah.  

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For  

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sure. So And then he says he's woken them up for sure.  

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Start a better better life,   come closer to him.   So,  

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Thank you. Thank you so much.  

[00:23:13] Andrew Hoffman:

To have your your child murdered   and to have that reaction   that god does no wrong   and that he will use your child's death to wake people up and to thank people for praying for you, that that is   supernatural   right there. That is not a normal,   you know, carnal, fleshly human reaction.   That is that's grace,   and that's people   you know, oftentimes, it takes a crisis for us to   to experience that and to lean on that, but that is   absolutely   unbelievable to to hear that reaction from from that poor father. So,   definitely   prayers,   you know, keep praying for him and and his wife and their other kids and that that whole community.  

And it is   boy, at the end, it's to not have your main reaction be anger,   it it really is a that's an act of God and and, you know, supernatural   and   spiritual maturity on on his part, that that's really something to see. So,   that doesn't mean I don't think that   that hospital and those responsible,   all the way up through the Texas state government   and And they're   the and the federal government,   you know, saying, no. No. Don't tell anyone about vitamin a. No. Measles will kill you. We need the MMR vaccine that's causing   three thousand five hundred SIDS deaths a year.  

That doesn't mean that I don't think   every single one of them should be sued into oblivion.   I mean, that Mennonite couple should own that hospital by the end of this. So I I'm sure there's there's plenty of good lawyers up there,   out there   that is   absolutely textbook medical malpractice   what what happened to that that poor girl. So I   I hope for,   you know,   I can't even call it justice for her family, but,   justice and and hopefully a strong enough message that   no hospital,   no doctor,   pulls that stunt again. There's   no real good way to transition from that story, and jump all the way to from one of the most mature people I've ever heard to some of the least. That would be politicians.  

But let's let's talk about the whole Thomas Massie, continuing resolution drama that we talked about before. And,   continuing resolution   drama that we talked about before.   And Thomas Massie tweeted out, and I was right. It was all performative.   Of course, Schumer was always going to go for the continuation of the Biden, Schumer, Johnson twenty twenty four spending agenda   for the first nine months of Trump's presidency.   And this is what we we talked about previously, the   the continuing resolution,   which is continuing from the Biden administration   into now the first nine months of the Trump Trump,   you know, supposedly totally different guys'   presidency.  

And, we're not gonna actually   fight anything out and decide anything because this is the time when   Republicans really have no excuse.   We're just gonna, you know,   maximum   suppose   maximum momentum for Trump, maximum opportunity to actually do something,   and not only do they   not do anything with the budget, just continuing the same   same   ridiculous spending levels and what have you,   but Rand Paul puts in there, you know, after they pass the or the   continuing resolution,   he says, just try to put presidents   Doge foreign aid cuts into law. 27   Republicans voted to cut foreign aid, but 26 Republicans and all Democrats voted to keep funding foreign aid at Biden levels.  

What What a disappointment.   Well, yeah. It's   a disappointment maybe, surprise definitely not. So   the whole Doge thing, total distraction.   I don't know,   you know, I guess I can't judge Elon's motivation. Maybe he is trying,   but it's not the way it works. And without congress doing anything,   it's just a it's just a sideshow.   And   everything gets marches on. I I guarantee you, you know, USAID,   it'll just get wrapped into a different department, maybe a different name, but all the same stuff's gonna keep keep marching right along. It just might be more,   you know, regime change, war focused rather than   woke focused   programs.  

So it is very much moving deck chairs around on the Titanic from a government perspective.   And we've got, along with that,   let's see. Let's,   one of the, I probably should have gone here right after the first story, but,   very disturbing news   from   Congress again.   But Dave Weldon   was going to be the head of the CDC,   and the White House withdrew   his nomination.   And there was no   no scandal.   Nothing   came out about him doing horrible things or or what have you. This is a a guy who used to be a congressman. He's a doctor.   And   but guess what? He was   not a big pharma   believer.  

So well, and I I shouldn't even say he's not a big pharma believer, but, he's willing to ask questions about, do we really need   85 v childhood vaccines and stuff like that. So let's go back to,   let's go back to Dave Weldon from when he was in in congress. This is a long time ago. I'll put the exact year in there. But, let's hear what he had to say and and why,   see if we could figure out why he wasn't,   put forward as head of the CDC.  

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There's some, I think, some very, very troubling,   issues that have not been resolved. And the thing that I continue to find   extremely disturbing   is the fact that the CDC   still does not allow researchers   access to the vaccine safety data.   If if everything was so objective and any scientist at all   can look at this stuff,   it would be one thing, but they continue to deny people access to this information, and I until we get a free and open   dialogue within the scientific community, I don't think,   for one, I will ever be satisfied that there that there isn't some some data   suggesting that   some children may have serious side effects from   some of these vaccines that is really going undetected, unnoticed, and yes, it may actually cause autism.  

To a certain extent, the problem is we're trying to investigate a sacred cow, and for a lot of people in the medical community,   there's this tremendous fear. If you say anything negative about vaccines,   then parents will stop vaccinating their kids, and then you'll have all these outbreaks of these diseases. I don't think parents are that stupid.   I think parents will continue to vaccinate their kids. We have a responsibility   to them to really find out if there's there's truth in all this, and I don't think the answers are in. I objected   to the language that was put   in the, Homeland   Security Act   on protecting   the,   vaccine producers.  

And,   you know, mister Waxman just said that these studies show that it's safe and then he criticized us for protecting,   he criticized the Republican leadership   for protecting the the the manufacturers.   Well, if what he said that they're safe, then why should he be critical of us protecting the manufacturers?  

[00:31:07] Andrew Hoffman:

So that was from when Dave Weldon was was in congress,   and he put out a statement,   just recently here,   official statement of honorable Dave Weldon, MD, regard   regarding recently withdrawal of recently   withdrawal, I guess it's a typo,   of nomination for CDC.   Twelve hours before my scheduled confirmation hearing in the senate, I received a phone call from an assistant at the White House   informing me that my nomination to be director of CDC was being withdrawn because there was not enough votes to get me me confirmed.   I then spoke to HHS secretary Bobby Kennedy who was very upset.  

He was told the same thing and that he had been looking forward to working with me at CDC.   He said I was the perfect person for the job. Bobby told me earlier that he had breakfast with   Republican senator Susan Collins of Maine, who said she now had reservations about my nomination   and was considering voting no. I had a very pleasant meeting with her two weeks prior where she expressed no reservation,   but at my meeting with their staff on March 11, they were suddenly very hostile, a bad sign. They repeatedly,   were accusing me of being anti vaxx, even though I reminded them that I actually give hundreds of vaccines every year in my medical practice.  

More than twenty years ago, while in congress, I raised some concerns about childhood vaccine safety.   And for some reason, Collins' staff suddenly couldn't get over that no matter what I said back. There are 12 Republicans and 11 Democrats on the committee, so losing one   was a problem if all the Democrats vote no, which they had been doing. I can assume that the White House staff had my nomination withdrawn   also because Republican   chairman doctor Bill Cassidy,   we'll hear from him more later,   of Louisiana was also voting no. Ironically, he is also an internist like me, and I have known him for years, and I thought we were friends.   But he he too was also throwing around the claim that I was anti vaxx or that I believe that vaccines cause autism, which I have never said. He actually once asked that asked that my nomination   be withdrawn.  

So he was a big problem, and losing Collins too was clearly too much for the White House. The president is a busy man doing good work for our nation. The last thing he needs is a controversy about CDC.   Yeah. Yeah. That one whatever.   The concern of many people is that Big Pharma was behind this, which is probably true.   They are hands down the most powerful lobby organization in Washington, DC,   giving millions of dollars to politicians on both sides of the aisle. They also purchased millions of dollars in advertising   in newspapers, magazines, and on television. For any news or organization   pharma. They also give generously to medical societies and colleges and universities.  

I have learned the hard way, don't mess with pharma.   I have been told that big pharma   had desperately tried to get rid of Bobby Kennedy, but were unable to do so due to the strong support of president Trump. Many people feel big pharma actually feared me more than they feared Bobby because of my credibility and my knowledge of science and medicine.   So if they had to live with Bobby for four years, they were definitely not going to have both him and me and put serious pressure on Collins and Cassidy.   My big sin was that as a congressman twenty five years ago, I had the temerity to take on the CDC and big pharma   on two critical childhood vaccine safety issues. It's the clip we just listened to.  

Hundreds of parents have been coming to me had had been coming to me from all over the country, insisting that their child had been seriously damaged by   the inoculations.   Some claimed it caused autism.   The parents made two different assertions. One was the fact that FDA, CDC, and pharma   had allowed a tremendous amount of neurotoxic   preservative called thimerosal thimerosal into the infant schedule and that the thimerosal was the cause of the problem. Under pressure from me and many other members of the house, both Democrat and Republican, the CDC and pharma removed the neurotoxic   thimerosal,   but it took them years to do it. One of the things that seemed to unite us in the house, who engaged with us on that, was that none of us took any money from pharma from pharma. Bernie Sanders actually joined us. CDC ended up publishing a research study claiming the mercury had done no harm.  

But there were credible   accusations   that the CDC had incorrectly manipulated the data to exonerate themselves.   If confirmed, I was planning on going back into the CDC dat database and quietly investigate this claim. Ironically, I was hoping to find no evidence of corruption of the science at CDC.   Maybe in hearing it from me, members of the public might be reassured, and it might help improve the currently somewhat tarnished image of CDC and pharma.   But I unfortunately also had the temerity to take on CDC and pharma regarding another childhood vaccine safety issue, the safety of the measles vaccine called MMR.   More than twenty five years ago, there were a series of articles published by a British pediatric gastroenterologist   by the name of Andrew Wakefield. He had seen many parents who claimed that after MMR,   their child not only deteriorated   developmentally, but also became fussy eaters and developed diarrhea. He did colonoscopies   on the children and discovered they had a new form of inflammatory   bowel disease.  

His research was later duplicated, and to this day, he has been credited for defining this form of childhood   inflammatory bowel disease. Wakefield published 15 papers in all. Only one was withdrawn.   The one that created the big controversy was published in a journal called Lancet, and one of the co authors on the paper was a highly respected Irish fire virologist by the name of O'Leary.   I actually knew of O'Leary. I used to take care of AIDS patients prior to going to congress, and I knew of O'Leary's reputation as a solid scientist.   One of the complications the AIDS patients were developing was a form of cancer called Kaposi's sarcoma,   and O'Leary had shown that the cancer occurred in the AIDS patients when there was coinfection by a second virus called herpes simplex type eight. Wakefield decided to give some some of the colon biopsy   specimens to O'Leary who was able to show, using a technique called PCR, that the a good old PCR.  

Technique called PCR,   that the good old PCR.   The inflammatory bowel disease biopsies in these children contain the vaccine strain measles virus.   The live virus in the vaccine   was supposed to be weakened and not cause illness. This suggested that the children were not able to handle the viral   particles and that it was causing an infection in their bowels, which might also have been affecting their central nervous system   and causing the autistic   features. When this article was published, thousands of British parents started refusing the MMR, and there were measles outbreaks. British health officials had their hands full. They decided to get the journal Lancet to withdraw the article, and they actually got O'Leary to withdraw his research findings.   I was following all of this closely and had actually met with O'Leary and I had looked at his biopsy micrographs and his PCR findings.  

It certainly looked to me   like the vaccine particles were causing the problem in these children and I was surprised that O'Leary withdrew his assertions.   I then called O'Leary on the phone and asked him why he was doing this. There was a very long pregnant pause.   He then said that it had taken him many years to get to the place he was at in the scientific community.   And then after another pause, he said he had four small children at home. I had small children at home myself at the time, and I understood what he was saying.   If he didn't do it, he was going to be fired. He was going to be ruined. British officials were not satisfied with just getting the journal to withdraw the article and getting doctor O'Leary to withdraw his claims. They then decided to begin proceedings to take away doctor Wakefield's medical license and one of his lead coauthors.  

Wakefield, by this time, had moved The United States, and to defend himself in court would have cost him hundreds of thousands of dollars, so he let them take his license away. But his lead coauthor, doctor Simon Murch, was still practicing medicine in England.   And decided to defend himself in court. And the government lost, and they were not able to take his license away. If Wakefield had the money to defend himself, he never would have lost his his medical license.   The court documents clearly show that Wakefield and his coauthors had not done anything unethical or inappropriate, and their work was possibly valid. But that was all Big Pharma needed. They could go around saying it and feeding the media that the research had been withdrawn and Wakefield had lost his license.   But I looked at the micrographs, and it sure looked to me like there was vaccine strain measles particles infecting the bowels of of these kids.  

The CDC was charged with the responsibility of repeating to to wake the Wakefield research and showing that the measles vaccine was safe,   but they never did it the right way. They decided to,   to de   epidemiological   studies instead of a clinical studies.   Again, as in the mercury study, there were claims made that the indicators that there was a problem with MMR were there. CDC was accused again of changing the protocol on data analysis until the association went away.   Ironically, I talked with Wakefield after all this was over. He agreed with me that we have to   that we have to vaccinate our kids for measles.  

He thought the solution was to give the vaccine at a slightly older age like they do in many European countries. Or we might be able to do research and figure out why some kids   have a bad reaction to the MMR. Clearly, big pharma didn't want me in the CDC investigating any of this. There are a lot of additional ironies in all of this. I believe the CDC is mostly made up of really good people who really care about public health for our nation, though its credibility has been seriously tarnished because of the failures of the way the COVID nineteen   crisis was managed. Forty percent of Democrats and 80% of Republicans don't trust the CDC.  

Many don't trust pharma as well. I really wanted to try to make the CDC a better, more respected agency, and killing my nomination may have the opposite effect.   Distrust may worsen. Yeah.   It it distrust   should should worsen.   So there's that article.   Mentioned   in that statement   is Bill Cassidy, and we talked about Bill Cassidy   recently as well when he was questioning Jay Bhattacharya.   And remember, his big point was you're not gonna waste your hard earned tax dollars looking at MMR   and looking for a link to autism, are you? Because that would be terrible because we all know there is no link, and and this has been exhaustively studied, and it would just be a waste of time. And, you know, there's there's flat earthers and and people who believe Elvis is alive. We do we don't need any of that. So let's let's play another,   Bill Cassidy clip. This is from   only a few years ago, the COVID era. Seems like a long time ago, but I think in 2021   or or so.  

And, let's let's just see if we can figure out why Bill Cassidy would want to   keep Dave Weldon,   a known,   skeptic of the CDC, off,   the CDC as a as a director there.  

[00:42:22] Unknown:

Big news. The Food and Drug Administration   gave final approval   to the Pfizer COVID vaccine.   For those hesitant to take it because it was under an emergency use authorization, the EUA,   it now has final   approval. This is big news. For all those who are concerned,   concern can go away. It's been proven safe   and effective,   and now it has final approval.   Please take the vaccine, save your life, maybe save the life of another.  

[00:42:53] Andrew Hoffman:

That Cassidy clip reminds me of   of one of   the many scams of COVID, but the whole FDA approval deal.   So they they went through that whole thing. Okay. Now it's FDA approved. But remember, they   they labeled it differently,   and you could never actually get   the FDA approved version.   No one got an FDA approved COVID vaccine. Nobody.   You still got the version of the vaccine that was under emergency use authorization,   and the Biden administration was kind enough to   to daddy warp speed Trump   to extend emergency use author authorization   so Trump wouldn't have to do it all the way to 2029.  

So to this day, if you go get a your eighth COVID booster,   you're still getting that under emergency   use authorization.   The whole FDA approval deal was a   a canard   because   Pfizer didn't want to actually   give out vaccines under FDA approval because the emergency   use authorization   immunity from from being sued   was so much   stronger than just the normal   approved vaccine.   So they tell you it's approved, but they're not gonna give you the approved version.   They're gonna give you the emergency use version.   And I think they're I'm guessing the reason for that is because there was so much fraud in the studies for FDA approval   that there would be a stronger legal case   to to go after Pfizer,   if if they had actually given out the approved   the, quote, FDA approved   vaccine. So that's   that was a whole   scam back in the day. We I know we talked about that a lot on Revelations Radio News, but that   that Cassidy clip did remind me, oh, it's FDA approved, guys. You could you could trust it.  

I wonder if that that whole scheme had anything to do with 80% of Republicans not trusting the CDC and, you know, 40% of Democrats and and all that that was mentioned by Dave Wheldon.   So now let's,   let's go into some economic   stuff. We've got a couple interesting things.   Let's   this this gal, Anna Madsen, I saw   I don't know, I don't know why the algo   started showing showing me her stuff, but,   she's talking   talking about the private equity takedown   of businesses.   And some of this did ring you know, I I'm not gonna speak to the the details. I didn't cross check everything, but   it did ring true. And I'll say it I'm playing this as a clip, which,   you know, I'm not saying it's   a % accurate, but I am saying it's it kinda makes sense to me. So let's go, Anna Madsen   on the private equity takedown of businesses.  



[00:45:52] Unknown:

Forever twenty one is closing all of its stores in The United States, but I wasn't shocked by this. My friend Tiffany just blew the whistle on something huge. Actually knew that Tiffany was working on this story for a couple days now. So when I woke up and saw the news about Forever twenty one, I was not shocked at all. Same exact thing happened to Joanne's, Party City, and Big Lots, and so many more. Wanna know what all of those companies have in common? They were all bought by private equity firms. What's happening is identical to the two thousand eight housing crisis. But this time, it's not just about houses. It's about businesses.   Housing crisis happened because they were giving out adjustable rate loans, but they don't call it that anymore. They call it back floating rate debt, which is what is happening today. So what that is is a loan where the rate is adjustable. So a lot of people, a lot of firms took out loans in 2020 when interest rates were next to nothing. And now that interest rates are super high, all of these businesses   are closing down because they can't handle it. You might be thinking to your   these   businesses just were doing poorly in the first place. This was bound to happen. But Joann's wasn't. 97%   of their stores were profitable.  

So why does this impact you? You? Remember, private equity firms also own a ton of single family homes. And if these businesses are going out of business, we're gonna see mass layoffs,   and this is tied into your retirement.   Now it's hard to tell exactly how many businesses private equity owns because they're just that, they're private. Public businesses have to post quarterly reports and everything, but when a private equity firm owns you, you don't have to report that stuff publicly. The best estimate that I found is that private equity firms own 20%   of all the businesses in this country. All of those businesses go down with the private equity firms that own them, then that would be the biggest economic collapse we've seen, probably bigger than o eight. Guys, this really should not be a partisan issue because this affects all of us. I'm already seeing people say this is Biden's fault. This is Trump's fault. Guys, we just need to work on who's going to fix it. Regardless of what you think about Trump, he actually proposed   last month on closing the loophole that allows private equity to thrive. What this loophole does is the carried interest rules allow investment managers to pay a lower capital gains tax rate on the income they receive from their work as compensation.  

If president Trump's proposal is implemented, it could significantly   impact private equity. What's kind of funny about this is Trump is actually advocating   to tax the rich here. A %, we should have everyone on board advocating for this. Trump's administration   could possibly just change rules in the IRS to close the loophole, but, of course, it's so much better to go through Congress to actually put it into law. So it's so important that we get this message   to our congress  

[00:48:52] Andrew Hoffman:

Yeah. Contact   those congresspeople. They'll get right on it. You know, they've get after all, they've got another six months of, continuing resolution to to gear up, get ready to get rid of that carried interest loophole and   and help us out. Tax the rich.   Okay. I def definitely   not believe in that part of it.   But the issue of,   private equity in this particular type of loan   was interesting to me. And I've seen   we've all heard the different the different,   companies that are going under, Joanne's Fabrics.   You know, my wife was a was a fan.   But, and   as we'll hear in this next clip,   most of their stores were actually profitable.  

And going back a ways   to the   Toys R Us issue,   it turns out they private equity took over, and then they took out a whole bunch of loans. And this keeps happening over and over again,   where   I had kind of thought it was just an issue of retail going away   and Amazon   taking over everything, especially with COVID. And and, hey. You can't go to that store, but you can go to this giant box store. That's that's okay. They're essential.   You can't go to the mom and pop. But this this clip is is really interesting.   I had looked into the commercial real estate side of things and kind of expected that to to be a big issue.  

But this is businesses   themselves   and then the type of loans   and why the loans are being taken out because these these companies are being kind of purchased or or shares of them purchased,   and then   or, you know, large chunks of or if not all the company is being purchased,   then all this financing is going on. And it at some levels, it it doesn't   lot of sense until you figure out, oh,   there's a whole bunch of people making money on each step of the process,   just not the actual, you know, business,   business employees.   The business eventually goes under, but by that time, everyone except the employees have made a whole lot of money, so who cares?  



[00:51:11] Unknown:

Last night, I started off by researching Hooters getting bankrupted by private equity and ended up uncovering the next 2,008 level economic collapse. And they're hiding the bubble inside a private equity black box that makes it almost impossible to see what they're doing, almost. This time, they're not gonna collapse the banks and make it too big to fail. They're gonna bankrupt the entire American pension system. I'm almost too afraid to make this video, but it has to be done. So let's get into it. In 02/2008,   investors and bankers were able to crash the world's economy by engaging in risky unethical bets and investment, and they did it right out in the open. They've learned, and this time, they're doing it again. Bigger investments,   bigger risks, same playbook, but they're doing it behind the smokescreen of private equity in bigger numbers. They're creating a bigger bubble than before, and it's not somewhere down the road. It's here, and it's about to You see, for the last month, I've been trying to figure out why these companies that private equity had acquired were failing even though they were still succeeding.  

Joanne's, ninety seven percent of their stores are still profitable, and yet they're still bankrupt. But they weren't bankrupt a year ago, and they still had the debt that private equity had stacked on them a year ago. So I wanted to know what changed. The same thing with Hooters. The same thing with now in 2024,   private equity bankrupted a 10 business, and that was almost double their previous record. There had been huge increases in the amount of bankruptcies each year over the past three years, but I didn't know what had changed because private equity had held many of these businesses for several years, and they were still succeeding   until I got my hands on an economic report and an article and found a term that nobody could explain to. The term was back floating rate loan. I didn't know what that meant and no article would explain it. So I had to go and do research in the financial prospectuses   of a bunch of financial investment. Guys, in the last few years, private equity has taken out $3,800,000,000,000   in adjustable   rate loans. These are adjustable rate loans. These private equity firms took out adjustable   rate loans. And so for the last three years, as our interest rates have gone up every 30 to 60,   the money due on the loans they stacked on top of these companies has gone up every thirty to sixty days. That's why these successful companies that private equity had acquired are suddenly bankrupt even though they're still making money. They're bankrupt because they're paying adjustable rate loans. But it doesn't stop there. It gets so much worse because my next question is why are the banks willing to give these risky loans to these private equity firms knowing it's gonna cause them to fail? And the answer is because the banks aren't gonna keep them on their books. The banks are immediately   repackaging   these adjustable rate loans as something called CLOs,   right, which are then packaged and sold off to our pension funds as really great debt. And they tell them that it's a diversified portfolio. Are you hearing the big short in real time? Literally, all of these companies are getting bankrupted in greater and greater numbers, and all of this debt is adjustable rate, and all of the bankruptcies are skyrocketing in this direction. And the if you look at this graph, you can see that aside from 2020, which is obviously an anomaly. Right now, private equity, that's the yellow section, has double the highest number of bankruptcies they'd ever had prior to last year. And that number is climbing this $3,800,000,000,000.  

3 point 8 trillion dollars is debt. Okay? I want you to look back to 2,008.   Do you wanna know how many risky adjustable rate mortgages there were? $1,100,000,000,000.   Do you wanna know how many,   subprime but not quite as bad loans there were? $1,300,000,000,000.   That was just in housing. In the $3,800,000,000,000   held by private equity,   they own the largest shares of the homeownership market in The United States, but they also own the daycares. They own the veterinary clinics. They own the pet stores. They own the nursing homes. They own the emergency rooms. They own the doctor's offices, the orthodontist.   They own the the builders, they own the HVAC companies.  

This isn't just housing. It's gonna touch every single industry around us. And that is why if this were a free market and private equity had not exploitatively   gotten involved, if we had a free market and we could see what they were doing, these companies would be succeeding. If this were actually a free market, these companies would be succeeding. Joanne's has 97%   of their store is profitable. That is an astronomical   number. 97%   of a retail store is profitable, and they are failing, and they are closing every store, and it is further consolidating an already consolidated environment. And now there are thousands and thousands of employees that will not have jobs, and there are thousands of other businesses that are going through the exact same thing right now. And why? Because they know we will never allow the banks to be bailed out again. We would literally riot in the streets, but we're definitely going to allow them to bail out the pensions because that's our grandparents.   That's our parents. That's the working class. They know that this will get bailed out. And because there's no regulatory authority, there are no laws stopping private equity from doing whatever they want, they know they can get away with it and to stop them. Most important thing you need to understand is this wasn't done by act. This was done by blatant intentional   greed. The private equity firm is one of the cheapest debt they could get, and they believed   arrogantly   that the debt would stay cheap forever. They had 0% interest rate loans for ages. And so they took on these adjustable rate notes thinking what they could keep refinancing forever out of it. It was arrogant. But it also meant that they got to collect bigger fees because they were taking risky debt that cost less. The bankers were happy to give them because they got higher fees on offering bad debt. They were gonna get paid no matter what. The same time, the private equity firms   mandated in their contracts with these companies they acquired that they were advisors and that they were a management company. So they also get paid that way and then they sold the land out from under these companies and all their assets and made themselves whole before any of this even began. They're already cash positive. The banks knew they wouldn't be held accountable because they were gonna bundle it up and pass it off to the pensions. And even the pensions were reckless because they're buying these mechanisms because   when you purchase into private equity, when you purchase private equity debt as a pension, you get to put on your books, especially if you have an underfunded pension, the projected   gains for ten years. Which means for ten years, it looks like that pension is more shored up than it is. And at the end of that ten years, when it's time for that fund to close out, suddenly then all of the bad debt comes crashing down on the pension. But at that point, there's a new leader on the pension fund and they kick the can down the road. So even they were reckless. But at the bottom of all of this is the bankrupting of the fabric of our society. We are losing our businesses. We are losing our doctors. We are losing our our orthodontist. We are losing our nursing homes. We are losing our funeral homes. And one by one, they're going to fall under the weight of this really   horrible adjustable rate debt. And nobody   nobody is talking about it. I could only find two articles   in very obscure financial magazines that even talk about these back floating rate loan. I I have never been more terrified. And I talk about private equity a lot. I have a lot to say. But right now, all I wanna do is get someone to pay attention that can make a difference in this because we have a problem. We're not without any hope at all. Right now, private equity is only allowed to be this exploitative   because they exist under something called the carried interest loophole. Something that multiple congresses have tried to close, but private equity continues to bribe politicians   to fail to actually achieve. Trump, three weeks ago, said he wanted to close the carried interest loophole. I thought he was doing it as a fundraising maneuver. I thought he was doing it as a fundraising maneuver, but he's doubled down on it repeatedly. If we can make enough noise about this, maybe we can get him to actually see it through and end private equity stranglehold on our population. There's so much more that we have to go through, so this is gonna be a multi part series. But if you're new here, my name is Tiffany. We work together to fight private equity and save small businesses in our community, and it's gonna take every single one of us to do so. So do all the things and stick around. I'm so glad you  

[00:58:56] Andrew Hoffman:

So I'll take partial   responsibility for the editing of that clip, but,   I think she's she's a little rough with the editing of her videos.   If someone helps her out, that that would be a good thing, but great information.   And   a lot of things that she said there kinda   clicked   stuff into place for me in kinda my real life   everyday   job. I I go to all these different businesses,   and all the time, it's where it used to be,   you would have a doctor's office and it's one doctor, or an orthodontist's office and it's one orthodontist,   or a veterinarian and it's one veteran veterinarian.  

And   now,   if you go into those places, they they still have the same names,   but then you find out, well, we're part of, you know, this   we're part of this organization,   and we don't make any decisions here. You'd have to, you know, when I'm trying to sell them Internet,   you would have to talk to x y z in Florida. It's like, well, why is there   someone in Florida   making decisions on what a veterinary office in Oklahoma does? It doesn't make any sense.   And   this is   this is why it's being done. So   by taking successful businesses   and profitable businesses,   purchasing them for kind of ridiculous amounts of money. I mean, that that's where   if you're a business owner, that's where you make your money is by selling,   which doesn't   doesn't entirely make sense. But so you sell to a private equity group, and they don't actually   buy your company with money that they have. They buy your company   with loans. And in this case, what she's emphasized is it's adjustable rate   loans, which were a great deal   a few years ago and not so much now. And that adjustable rate then, you know, just like if if you have looked at mortgage rates on a house, there's a big difference between   2% interest and 8% interest. Right? Your your monthly payment is vastly different with within that range. Same thing for businesses.  

And   they made sure to,   you know, make a profit.   If the company goes under, the company goes under, but that doesn't mean it wasn't profitable for the people investing in it, which is very counterintuitive.   You would think if you're investing into a company, it has to be successful   for you to make money. And if it's successful, then that's good for everyone. That's good for the employees. It's good for the investors. It's good for the owners.   Everyone wins all around. And this is a messed up system where,   who was it? Jersey Mike's   Sub Shop.  

I heard someone griping that they had just been bought out by private equity, and it was it was probably gonna   be going under in a few years. And that hasn't happened yet. But that was a a reach recent purchase.   We'll have to see. So currently profitable,   but private equity comes in, purchases the business, takes out a ton of loans,   and,   you know, sells off some assets,   starts jacking up the fees. There there's other parts to this   scam too.   A lot of times, they really   put the screws to individual franchise owners.   So all of a sudden, the fees that you pay   go up drastically.  

You you're required to do different things. So there's there's other layers than than what's being talked about. But I would bet dollars to donuts that the carried interest loophole is not going anywhere.   There might be some, you know, changes to the IRS where they say, hey. Poor people don't have to pay taxes anymore.   Poor people don't pay taxes   now. In fact, they get a lot more money   back. Let's let's say you make,   you've got   a better than minimum wage, but not a super high paying job. You make $40 a year. You're gonna get   way more   money back from the   IRS   by filing your taxes   than you ever paid into it. And   I think they'll just they'll take all that away and, like, look, you don't have to pay taxes anymore, which will be,   you know, good for for people making a hundred or a hundred and 50,000 a year,   not make any difference or actually hurt people making less than that. And then they'll let   this, you know, carried   interest loophole scam   just keep right on going.  

And on no agenda, they've been talking about Trump trying to,   basically   intentionally   not crash the economy, but get it to a point where the   the Fed starts lowering interest rates.   And their analysis is that he's doing that because of the $6,000,000,000,000   of of   federal debt that has to be refinanced.   But I think this could be another   another piece of that,   trying to trying to make,   make money cheap again so that, you know,   these businesses that are are in debt up to their eyeballs   can still make it. Because I I think he does   want businesses to   to function and and keep on going.  

He doesn't,   he doesn't want it all to to collapse. So definitely some more research   needed in that area. Hopefully, you found it interesting.   I'm sure there was stuff wrong both in   what I said and what the those clips said. But hopefully, it sends you down a rabbit hole to see see what's actually going on. I'd love to hear from people, what you think.   We're kind of done with the with the serious stuff for the most part tonight. We gotta end it on a on a little bit more of a,   a fun note.   Poke fun at the at the fake space out there. So we've, man, we've we've been having some great   fake space stories. So we've got Elon   pulling off outer space rescues and why isn't this a bigger deal? You know, I mean, Elon, he's just single handedly   rescuing people from space. And and we've got,   live footage from Mars   and audio.  

Yes. This is live footage and audio.   Mars being transmitted back 240,000,000   miles. Totally real, guys. It's not Devon Island. It's Mars.   And, just a whole lot of stuff going on. So I I've got a short, Owen Benjamin clip on the moon landing.   Makes some interesting points.   Someone already cleaned up the the language there. So we'll we'll play that clip, and then we'll we'll talk a little bit more about space.  

[01:05:53] Unknown:

I don't know what happened. All I know is the reason I know that what they showed isn't real is production. The camera so the three astronauts leave and the camera shot tilts up and focuses. And they say that there's no one on the moon. And they say that they did it by remote in negative 200 degrees in a vacuum from Houston, Texas in 1969.   I'm like, anybody in TV production knows that's not even close to possible. Like, doing that with that camera right now would be super hard. From a remote, you'd have to do like take after take and just all the contradictions and why did it happen? I mean, if I was gonna give them the benefit of the doubt, it was keeping whole keeping entertainment, keeping that spirit going as we're getting off the gold standard and there's a cold war with Russia. Or it's almost like a way to get the troops excited and then maybe they spend a lot of money to try and go and they couldn't for some reason and they wanted to deliver because people were going there was like race riots then and on the negative side, psychological   operations where it's like the greatest thing that we've ever done, you can't do now forever. Yeah. Now I think about what that does to the youth. I mean, you're young. It's like, yeah. We went to the moon in 1969   and we can't ever now because we're not as good as them, as the baby boomers because they had special technology. Meanwhile, Neil Armstrong will brag that they had less tech than an iPhone. So they're like in these young kids' face. We did all this with less tech than you have in your pocket. And it's like, so why can't we go back? Well, we had better tech. And that's like a psyop. That's like to break your brain where you're like, okay. Tell me what food to eat and give me a pill. That doesn't make logical sense.  



[01:07:20] Andrew Hoffman:

No. It most definitely does not make logical sense. So we've we've recently seen   kind of a a new moon landing   Firefly   Aerospace.   You know, they, oh, we landed on the moon.   Oh, well, where where's the video?   Oh, well, here's some images,   and we'll release a couple more images. And look. Look. It's so cool. You could see the Earth really far away.   Well, why does it look so much further away than   during the Apollo missions?   There's it's the camera angle, horizon,   tilt of the Earth, all that stuff. So   Don Pettit is an astronaut.   I think he's supposedly   part of the crew that's up that just went up there and came back and took the people off the space station.  

But, anyway, the his account,   Crew ten Dragon Vehicle Arriving,   his   his ex account, his Twitter account   put out this video,   and it is so ridiculous.   So that's all it says, Crew ten Dragon Vehicle vehicle arriving.   It doesn't say,   CGI imagery of   the actual mission. It just says   it it's presented as, like, this is video?   It's not video. I mean, you're you're more than welcome to to take a look at yourself.   There are definitely people in the comments who believe it's real, which is it's kinda disturbing.   But let's hear what Don Pettit   said about   going to the moon,   going back to the moon. And this is from a couple of years ago.  



[01:08:59] Unknown:

I'd go to the moon in a nanosecond.   The problem is we don't have the technology to do that anymore. We used to, but we,   destroyed that technology,   and it's a painful process to build it back again.  

[01:09:14] Andrew Hoffman:

So we we can't go to the moon because we had the technology,   but we destroyed it. And it's a painful process to build it back again.   Makes perfect sense. We the good news, though,   we can totally go to Mars pretty soon.   We could totally   land   a craft on an asteroid,   scoop up rocks,   bring them back, and land it at a NASA facility,   you know,   videoing and and sending data back the whole time.   We could totally   have a space station going 17,000   miles an hour in orbit,   send another craft up to it, dock with it, and take people down from there back to Earth. That's that's all totally   totally real and happening.  

And, you know, just just because the SpaceX stuff blows up,   seems like every other time   when there's no one on board,   no real risk, as far as actually   actually getting astronauts back home. I mean,   how would you feel   if if this were all real, how would you feel if you were an astronaut up there and you're watching   Elon bounce rockets off the firmament and blow them up blow them up and what have you? So it's it is once you see it, it is really easy to see, and it's ridiculous and it's almost hard to pay attention to.   But I'm glad that people are there are people that analyze it and show, like, a look. You can tell this is fake and you can tell that's fake. So it's it is important work because there's there's a whole group of people out there that are still a % bought in that actually get mad   if you when you question it because this is it's kind of a substitute religion.  

It's the scientism. It's the belief that people can can go to Mars and   and kind of the Alex Jones theory of   where it's a weird mix of Christianity   and and transhumanism   and and taking over,   you know, other planets. So this is  

[01:11:23] Unknown:

you know,  

[01:11:24] Andrew Hoffman:

Elon is very obviously   an op,   and there's no quicker way to realizing that that than to,   oh, he's involved with space and fit space is fake. And then when you look at, wait a second, Jeff Bezos,   you know, Bill Gates, all all these people are doing some sort of some sort of bogus space stuff or satellite stuff or or, you know, vaccines,   the whole thing. And it is   a corrupt,   evil system,   and it is, in some ways, really frustrating to to be able to see that and know that, you know, my little podcast, but really all of us that that see it are gonna have a hard time breaking through to people.   There people are are so bought in   that it's it's gonna be tough. You know, it's gonna be tough to get people out of that.  

So, anyway, the if once you do see it, it is pretty entertaining.   And   and   if you if you haven't checked it out, you know, check out all the the supposed live stuff that never actually turns out to be live and then   the real footage that then they come back and say, well, we never said that was real footage. It's just the CGI representation. It really happened, but, you know, for whatever reason, we can't just can't just put a camera on the outside of the space station and and watch the the craft that's coming in dock from that angle. No. We can't do that. We'll give you the CGI version of of the   Dragon.  

Interesting name. Right? There it's always it's always some,   Greek   false god   or dragon. Obviously, some some implications there as well.   So interesting naming conventions, just the whole thing is is very,   very corrupt and and evil. And that's that's the biggest waste of money out there. I mean, there is no bigger waste of money in government than NASA   and   Elon, the supposed watchdog of the federal government.   Yeah. I've got a feeling that the SpaceX contracts and the   the general   space exploration,   spending   is quite safe and will probably even be expanded. After all,   you know, Trump at the very end of his big speech, you know, we're we're going to Mars. So   that'll wrap it up for today.  

No. We are not going to Mars.   But the way I'll wrap it up is say, you know what?   It's okay to be an anti-vaxxer.