In this episode, we delve into the complexities of citizenship and freedom, exploring historical and modern perspectives. We begin by discussing the Expatriation Act of 1868, examining its implications and how it relates to the 14th Amendment. The conversation shifts to the intricacies of obtaining a passport and the importance of understanding one's status as a national versus a citizen. We also touch on the challenges of navigating bureaucratic systems and the significance of education in achieving true freedom. Throughout the episode, we emphasize the power of knowledge and the importance of being informed about one's rights and responsibilities. Join us as we unravel these topics and provide insights into living a life of liberty and fulfillment.
In this episode, we delve into the intricacies of citizenship and the historical context of the 13th and 14th Amendments. We explore the concept of expatriation and its implications during the post-Civil War era, questioning the motivations behind the Expatriation Act of 1868. The discussion touches on the differentiation between state and federal citizenship, and the historical nuances that have shaped the current understanding of citizenship in the United States.
We also discuss the challenges and processes involved in obtaining a passport as a national, not a citizen, of the United States. Listeners share their experiences and insights into navigating the bureaucratic hurdles of the State Department, emphasizing the importance of attaching affidavits to passport applications to assert one's status.
Additionally, we reflect on the historical shifts in labor and societal roles, particularly the impact of propaganda campaigns during the World Wars that encouraged women to enter the workforce. This historical perspective is linked to modern-day work-life balance issues, highlighting how societal expectations have evolved over time.
The episode concludes with a discussion on the power of education and understanding one's rights, emphasizing the importance of being informed and proactive in asserting one's legal status and freedoms.
Welcome to another episode of Paul English Live on WBN 324, where we dive into a grab bag of topics with our usual flair. This week, we explore the chaotic world of media and governmental announcements, with a particular focus on the antics of Donald Trump. We discuss the absurdity of recent announcements regarding Gaza and the influence of media narratives.
We also delve into historical battles, specifically the Battle of Towton, and its significance in English history. This leads to a discussion on the roles of bowyers and fletchers in medieval warfare, and the cultural impact of these historical events.
Our conversation takes a turn towards sports, with insights into the upcoming Super Bowl and its cultural implications. We explore the connections between sports, media, and politics, and how these elements shape public perception.
In a lighter segment, we reminisce about the history of recorded music, from the Peerless Quartet to the evolution of sound technology. This nostalgic journey highlights the cultural shifts in music and entertainment over the decades.
We also touch on the role of AI in modern society, discussing its potential to manipulate and influence human behavior. This leads to a broader conversation about the impact of technology on our daily lives and the ethical considerations it raises.
Join us for a lively discussion filled with humor, historical insights, and thought-provoking commentary. Whether you're interested in media, history, or the future of technology, this episode has something for everyone.
In this episode, we delve into the intricacies of citizenship and the historical context of the 13th and 14th Amendments. We explore the concept of expatriation and its implications during the post-Civil War era, questioning the motivations behind the Expatriation Act of 1868. The discussion touches on the differentiation between state and federal citizenship, and the historical nuances that have shaped the current understanding of citizenship in the United States.
We also discuss the challenges and processes involved in obtaining a passport as a national, not a citizen, of the United States. Listeners share their experiences and insights into navigating the bureaucratic hurdles of the State Department, emphasizing the importance of attaching affidavits to passport applications to assert one's status.
Additionally, we reflect on the historical shifts in labor and societal roles, particularly the impact of propaganda campaigns during the World Wars that encouraged women to enter the workforce. This historical perspective is linked to modern-day work-life balance issues, highlighting how societal expectations have evolved over time.
The episode concludes with a discussion on the power of education and understanding one's rights, emphasizing the importance of being informed and proactive in asserting one's legal status and freedoms.
Welcome to another episode of Paul English Live on WBN 324, where we dive into a grab bag of topics with our usual flair. This week, we explore the chaotic world of media and governmental announcements, with a particular focus on the antics of Donald Trump. We discuss the absurdity of recent announcements regarding Gaza and the influence of media narratives.
We also delve into historical battles, specifically the Battle of Towton, and its significance in English history. This leads to a discussion on the roles of bowyers and fletchers in medieval warfare, and the cultural impact of these historical events.
Our conversation takes a turn towards sports, with insights into the upcoming Super Bowl and its cultural implications. We explore the connections between sports, media, and politics, and how these elements shape public perception.
In a lighter segment, we reminisce about the history of recorded music, from the Peerless Quartet to the evolution of sound technology. This nostalgic journey highlights the cultural shifts in music and entertainment over the decades.
We also touch on the role of AI in modern society, discussing its potential to manipulate and influence human behavior. This leads to a broader conversation about the impact of technology on our daily lives and the ethical considerations it raises.
Join us for a lively discussion filled with humor, historical insights, and thought-provoking commentary. Whether you're interested in media, history, or the future of technology, this episode has something for everyone.
[00:00:10]
Paul English:
Take a Look Around You. Yeah. Different tune in the pre show little section of the whole thing. It's, Thursday, February, winter February already. This is Paul English Live here on WBN three two four. I'm with you for the next two hours. Welcome to the show. And we've got a loose grab bag show for you as we always do this week. A few things, but where will it take us? We never really know. Hi, everyone, and welcome back. I hope you've been having a cracking week, whatever the word cracking might mean to you. Hopefully not bones and things. It's been a wild and wacky week in the world of media, I think, and, governmental announcements on both sides of the pond. Although, I think I think the guys in The States are kind of really winning on that score. I mentioned, maybe I mentioned it last week or I certainly was mentioning it to someone the other day that, the script that mister Trump is receiving is like a good cop bad cop script, but spoken by one actor. Actor. So he says really really good positive things that everybody would support on Monday.
And Tuesday, he's talking nonsense, pitiful, and rubbish. And, generally sort of, you know, going in the direction that everybody else, on the power elite wants him to go into. Not the direction, of course, that, that most of us want to go into. I think the, but no doubt this will come up during the show today. The announcements made with regards to Gaza are astronomically asinine and silly, but should we be surprised? I guess some people probably are. I've got some little comments to make about that. As as for today's show image, of course, if you're on the radio you wouldn't have seen it, people out there in radio land. But we're here on rumble, trucking along doing our thing and, if you haven't seen it, it's a picture from a battle that I mentioned the other week. I'm just currently into battles and things like that. That's generally what I'm doing.
And so we've got, we've got a picture of oops sorry about that. That got a bit of look back there. It's a it's a beautiful picture. I'm gonna try and describe it to you for radio listeners. Not really. Radio is, fantastic. Well, I get we'll get smell o vision as well soon so you can smell it. It's actually, a picture of the Battle of Towton, which I think I mentioned maybe on the show last week. And I should really, of course, be using this picture on the anniversary which is March. It was a Palm Sunday, but I've been sort of enamored of reading a book on this battle recently and it's an absolute blazing picture. One of the best ones we've had.
The show's not really about the Battle of Town at all. In fact, as I mentioned the other week, the images, are, not really got anything related to what we end up talking about in the slightest, to be quite honest. That's just generally the way it goes. But it was an enormous battle and it seemed relevant, I guess considering that we are in a battle. And, I was reminded I went off and looked actually at the, I was trying to find out what the names were for all the people that made bows and arrows. And, bowmen are known as bowyers. B o w y e I. It's a very common surname here in England. So now you know. If you know anybody who's a bowyer, it means somewhere in the long and dim and distant past. They were a maker of bows, and of course the English used the thing called the longbow.
I don't it would have been used in this battle actually. And the salient facts are, and the reason why I've put it up, there's two things. One is it's the biggest loss of English life in one day's battle ever, in the long and glorious and slightly questionable history, I guess, of Britain's combativeness around the world. Of course we've not been sure of doing a few things like that. But there you go, all the way back, to 1461, I think it is. If I got my dates wrong someone can pound me. 28 and a half thousand men dead in one day, all with bows and arrows, and axes, and swords, and all that kind of stuff. And I've also mentioned that I grew up very near the battlefield. And, earlier this week I went and had a look on Google Maps, as you do. Google gets into everything these days, doesn't it? You can't get away from them. To discover that I actually grew up about five miles from the battlefield. It was nearer to me than I thought actually.
So there you go. It's just something that's kind of squirreled its way into my head recently. It's a battle that's barely known. It's not celebrated. It's not mentioned anywhere. And yet here we have it one of these massive things that had taken place just in my backyard. Anyway, a wonderful picture. Just coming back to the name the guys that made the arrows by the way, they're known very common name in England as well. Fletchers. A fletcher is a maker of arrows. Although I quite liked the other name for them which is an arrow smith, which I quite like. So for all our US listeners, just giving you a little bit of sort of the feel of England in 1461, I'm sure I've got that date wrong actually somewhere.
But, there you go. Palm Sunday, March the twenty ninth in the snow. Not a fun day to be around on a Sunday. I dread to think what it would have been like but there you go one of those things. And of course, I had to throw in a bit of Shakespeare today in the show notes. It's, we'll be going in very different directions. This is just a bit of scene setting, but that bit, where he says whether 'tis and it's appropriate really as well in terms of the challenges that we fail, we face today. Look at these segues that I'm trying to desperately build up. Whether 'tis nobler in the mind to suffer the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune or to take arms against a sea of troubles and by opposing end them. And so I'm joined by a flight of arrow smiths. That's the name for that's the collective noun for archers by the way.
And, welcome to the show, Eric, Paul and Patrick. How are you fine gentlemen this jolly good evening for us in here in The UK and, jolly good afternoon, I guess, for you chaps over in The States?
[00:07:12] Eric:
Greetings.
[00:07:13] Paul English:
Greetings, Eric. Greetings. Hello. Hello, Eric. It's good to have you. And, It's good to have you as well. No. Well, I'm I'm glad to be here. Yeah. It's been a quite hectic day, getting my feet under the table. Lots of buttons to press even more, than usual today. We'll we'll mention something towards the end. But, yeah. It's been a very hectic sort of week. I didn't really know what the theme was today. There doesn't really have to be one. I think we just wing it as usual because it's the best way to to see where the conversation goes. But, yeah. I was quite taken really with the image of us being in a battle and, we are really. It's kind of weird when it's not obviously fought with the currently, it's not being fought with swords and battle axes and bows and arrows.
But it is definitely being fought and with each week passing by, it's as if the really mixing my metaphors now, but the heat is really going up in the kitchen isn't it? And it's getting crazier and crazier over here, and I think it's been super mad this week in The US with, some of these announcements that have been made. And,
[00:08:21] Eric:
Well, what I'm going to say I'm sorry. I was going over to The US, but I might be changing the subject a little bit. But, did you know that the longbow was a word that was invented by the Victorians? It was actually called a war bow, and during the day Was it? And, yes, and a boyer actually made or boyer was a person that made the bows. That's right. The, the that's right. But I've noticed that that,
[00:08:47] Paul English:
picture is very embarrassing because they were in their long johns, and they've got to put their trousers on. And and they, you know, it's that all in long johns. No latex trousers. I know. I suspect, really, the trouser budget of the day was probably very low, and and many men, of course, probably didn't operate in trousers. Oh. I don't know. Maybe it's a very it's a it's very terrifying going to the battle. Perhaps they had a, laundry problem. So that was the reason why. They couldn't change their underwear in time, you know. Just a thought. Yeah. I I think I think there's a very, there's a very good chance of it. Yeah. There is. There's a very good chance of it. Well, Bowyer, as I I think I did mention, it's good for you to reinforce that. There used to be a footballer called Lee Bowyer. I think he played for a London team and then he came up and played for the Leeds United and I come from Leeds. And I think it was probably the last time I ever really paid attention to football, which would have been the late eighties, early nineties. So some a mere thirty five years ago, I've I've been rather disenchanted with the whole idea of really the excessive professionalism that the Premier League has bought and the tedious cultural irrelevance of it at the same time. It's it's quite it probably always was silly, but I was sillier when I was younger and therefore, didn't mind all the silliness. But it I think it's super silly right now. And speaking, just moving around because we're gonna hop all over the place as we usually do trying to keep a track on these things. But Patrick, your your family's involved, is it not, quite closely with the amazing event that's coming up this Sunday in your nation.
[00:10:18] Patrick:
Yeah. My brother, he's a linebacker in the Kansas City Chiefs. So yeah. Yeah. It'll be his, third Super Bowl if they win. If they lose, it's like, oh, well, two Super Bowls is good enough. Why not? But it's against the Philadelphia Eagles.
[00:10:36] Paul English:
Is that is that a is that a tough draw? Are they very, very good this year?
[00:10:40] Patrick:
I don't know. I think I think they played the two years ago, they they played against them and won, so we'll see.
[00:10:49] Paul English:
So your brother, does he have two winners medals already or one winners medal? Two two rings. Yeah. Oh, rings. Sorry. Sorry. Rings. Yes. You get rings. I remember now. Yeah. Well, I I was for for a bit of late night viewing recently, I watched, I don't know why I watched this. I watched a bit of a documentary series on Tom Brady, which was quite interesting. It's quite impressive what he's done. Whenever anybody in any field of sport does sort of something outstandingly mad like that over such a long period of time, it's always impressive. A lot of swearing in it though. It was quite taken aback. There's a lot of effing and blinding.
It all seemed so unnecessary that we're doing this yeah. They were kinda doing this. This is just a camera one on one, you know. And they're just talking straight up about things and and maintaining You didn't have farms up? Yeah. And I'm just going, why are you doing that? It really didn't suit him. He was doing it. I go, don't do that. It makes you look silly. I mean, I know I'm a prissy Englishman. Right? But I just couldn't get it. I didn't see what the point of it was. It didn't sort of improve the quality of the viewing experience at all. It seemed quite irrelevant, really. Well, I was just talking to a friend of mine down in South Africa yesterday,
[00:11:57] Patrick:
and he was talking about Tim Tebow, who was a a football player from here, and he was known for praying before the before the, games. And Right. The media really ridiculed him for that. And, I heard he, he married some South African lady who was, like, miss Universe at a certain point. So it yeah. Definitely you you find people, like, for instance, I think their quarterback for the Chiefs, he's, dating Taylor Swift. So it's a a big deal, Kelsey, Travis Kelsey. And, you know, all the ins and outs of these these Hollywood and, you know, New York Hollywood Media Mogul type people. So and then and then not to mention the fact that the whole football organization is is a joke in regards to it being a nonprofit or was a nonprofit for many decades and then suddenly, oh, no. We're for profit. And then we have all these sports betting things set up that are basically online casinos set Yep. To take people's money.
[00:13:06] Paul English:
It's a joke as far as I'm concerned. And I know. I has there been an estimate of how much money is gonna be wagered then? There must be normally, that's that'll even make the business. Millions. Yeah. Yeah. Good. It's it's nuts. It's a good use of people's money, isn't it? It's really sensible. Time. Yep. Right. So, I mean, I think this year as well, I mean, tapping into politics, I understand that the press, mister mister Trump, is actually going to be there for the game, and that this is the first time ever that a president has attended a Super Duper Bowl. Is that right?
[00:13:41] Patrick:
I have no idea. I don't follow football. I shouldn't know more about this than you do. I don't follow football. Probably do know more than I do except for a few, you know, celebrity type things that just get mentioned in in, in these things. But, I, yeah, I could care less about football. That's my attitude. Really.
[00:14:00] Paul English:
God. Your brother's in the Super Duper Bowl. Yeah. You do talk at Christmas then. Yeah. Yeah. Some some Christmases. Yeah. Well, I think it's quite impressive. I think anybody that makes it to the upper levels of whatever they do is impressive. And, you know, you don't bump into people. So I can say I know us indirectly. What's that thing? Six relations of separation. I know I know a guy who knows a guy, who's got Super Bowl rings stuck on his fingers and stuff. So I guess that's a thing. That's a thing, isn't it? Yeah. It's a thing. It's a thing. It's a thing. It's a thing. Yeah. Eric, do we have soccer players praying before Premier League matches over here? I don't think we do, do we? I haven't seen any of that. I don't know. I haven't the foggiest idea. I wouldn't mind. So,
[00:14:48] Eric:
no. I mean, the my my knowledge of football was rather limited. I know it's a load of blokes kicking a a ball around. Right. Rugby is a load of blokes trying to, grab a strange looking ball. So it's all to it's all to be a to me, it's a it's a big balls up. So It's a load of balls, really, isn't it, Eric? When we really look at it, it's a load of balls, really. It is. I'm talking about a load of balls. Trump this week, he should be so he's an intellectual, isn't he?
[00:15:18] Paul English:
I don't Is he an intellectual?
[00:15:20] Eric:
Wants to buy I don't have any joking. I mean, he he was he, he he wants to buy girls or something and throw all the Palestinians out. And,
[00:15:31] Patrick:
Yeah. But he wants to give them good homes.
[00:15:35] Eric:
Where?
[00:15:36] Paul English:
Well, somewhere in a nice place. A nice place, he said, didn't he? Somewhere nice and super and wonderful and lovely.
[00:15:44] Eric:
What what about his house? Could he could he open his his his house? Because as he was saying it, I could smell something. I don't Yeah. Is it cats, dogs? No. I think it's bullshit, actually. But, but did you know is he, is that netting nutty nutty knickers or whatever his name is Mhmm. Is he actually a woman dressed as a bloke? Because Trump moved his seat for him, which is only only do for ladies with in etiquette. Yep. So is he is he moving the seat out for netty nutty knickers for, for the ladies to sit down? I mean I reckon it's all staged, all that stuff.
[00:16:20] Paul English:
I I mean, that's a sign of showing subservience, isn't it? Right? So one way to get yeah. If you wanna get the upper hand on someone, you do you treat them like a lady. One's the top and one's the bottom, as they say. Yeah. But I think And I mean
[00:16:35] Eric:
guess who, helped, Trump out when he was in debt. Let me guess. An agent of Rockefeller's oh, sorry. Rockefellers.
[00:16:47] Paul Biener:
Yes. Yes. Yes. So I we it could be either. It's an r word.
[00:16:52] Eric:
It's it's slap my thigh. Isn't that a surprise? But I'll tell you what, it is strange. We haven't seen Trump yet with, a beer mat on his head talking to a wall. And that's what we did last night. Yeah. We have. We got those. Has been talking to him. Oh, last time. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Last time, but, no, this new time, he he's normally, within a week, he's over there, but he isn't this time, is he?
[00:17:16] Patrick:
Well, I don't know. You could say that he was over at Schneerson's grave doing the
[00:17:20] Paul English:
the jiggedy boo or whatever they do. And I think that is I think that is the correct phrase. I think that is the correct technical term, Patrick. Yeah.
[00:17:28] Eric:
Is it jiggedy boo or tickety boo? It is. Oh, I remember that. Every time I see a bee I can see Trump there with his BMAT on his head and, doing it. Was it chickadee boo? Yep. Oh, that's a that's a good noise.
[00:17:49] Paul English:
It is. Isn't there a term in there's a you know, when he's talking about obviously, he's known for real estate development. It's funny. It's like watching a business. Yeah. Well, we're gonna do up this place. We're gonna turn and he's talking about turning into these great beachside resorts. The idea that the Gazans don't want to leave their home is completely and utterly it's dis it's not even acknowledged as a sentence. I think I saw a reporter ask that and he said we're gonna make these really nice beachfront side properties. I'm going, is this bizarre? What's really taking place? Is America now just well, not really America. Is Trump as the voice piece of the people that are controlling now in a position to just buy everything up? Oh, we're just gonna buy it all up. Yeah. Yeah. We can. Well, that's that's the American way. It's been our our slogan
[00:18:35] Patrick:
our slogan, the American slogan Mhmm. Forever. Hasn't it? Steel Land. Yep. Yeah.
[00:18:44] Paul English:
And I thought, really, isn't this a version of Trump's pump and dump? I thought, you know, Trump pump and sorry. I couldn't I was thinking about this today, and I just thought, you know, pumping and dumping is where you get all of a stock and raise the price and blah blah blah. Is it was the plan always to just annihilate Gaza, pick it up for nothing, and then rebuild it all up, and then all non Gazans are gonna move into these fantastic places. Meanwhile, American troops are possibly gonna be sent out there, but they won't get involved in any fighting. And it's all gonna be lovely and there's, you know, they won't have to worry about unexploded bombs and all the other things that are flying around. It's just gonna go great, sounds to me. It's just brilliant the way it sells. Without COVID and look at the dominoes that have fallen. And without COVID, this whole thing probably wouldn't have happened because people would have
[00:19:30] Patrick:
protested a little more than they they have to this this whole thing because how else could you justify doing that just going in and bombing like world war two area bombing and then and then justify it to your people without some sort of dramatic thing that happened in a series of events prior to that. The the lockdowns then the Russian war and then the justification to go in and and take and steal land kill, murder, you know, probably rape. Obviously, rape. Didn't didn't they say, oh, you know, we we can rape prisoners, and male, female, it doesn't matter, and then get away with it with impunity because their their dog you know, these people are less than animals. I think Their,
[00:20:17] Paul English:
security minister said something like that. That's right. Well, that's not the first time someone in a position of power from those people have said things like that. In fact, it's codified in their Talmud. So, you know, they're bound to read lines from it, aren't they? I mean, it's just it's absolutely surreal, the whole thing. There's no acknowledgment whatsoever that pea a lot of children have been killed. It's just it's like a real estate project now. Oh, yeah. That was just the sort of preparation phase. The fact that thousands of people are dead, that was just difficult. You know, they didn't get out of the way of the bulldozers, effectively. Well, they did come in the form of missiles and bombs and machine gun bullets and things like this, but, you know, it's their own fault for being there.
[00:20:54] Patrick:
Yeah. And they've been coveting this property for a long time. I I You think? Recall for. They have. Well well, yeah, two thousand years. But besides that, it's, just recently, you know, talking about resorts and casinos and this sort of thing, and that's that's the forte of our president is resorts and casinos, pleasure domes, whatever you wanna call them. That's it. That's the new real estate
[00:21:20] Paul English:
president.
[00:21:22] Patrick:
But the thing of it is, if they if they're gonna do it with us, they'll do it to us. That's that's the thing. Yes. We need as as people who speak English and see all these things happening, we need to realize that the people that we support with our tax money are doing it with our tax money, and they'll do it to us with our tax money someday.
[00:21:45] Paul English:
And to pay for it Yeah. This is the role I I mean, it's not affect it is obviously directly affecting them today, but this is a principle that they're rolling out. Everything is just being shifted and trying to be sold to us as a really great thing. We're gonna bring peace and this, that, and the other. And it's like I was saying there earlier on, I mentioned it the other week, you know, some of the things that that have come out of his mouth, the words that he's been asked to say, the words that we want to hear. But the other bunch of words, as it were, that are coming out of his mouth are basically the complete hidden hand at work, but overtly. So it's like, look, I gave you a nice thing, so now I can do a horrible thing. I know you don't want this, but I'm not even going to acknowledge that I know you don't want it. We're just gonna blithely go on with it. The press are supine apart from this, challenge I heard from a reporter earlier today, a female reporter in The States. I don't know whether it happened today, but I did hear hear it hear it earlier today on George Hobbs' show, which was excellent today.
And, so it's that. It's yet again, it's this control. It's a weird communication space, intentionally so, thoroughly designed to do that, And it just stinks of commie communications control, the whole thing, you know, but should we be surprised? No. We're not. We're not surprised by this, but it's still an appalling thing. Somebody, I don't know who again, I'm sorry for this. I need to start giving out acknowledgement. Someone kindly sent I'm gonna play a clip right now because I think he's appropriate. A couple of minutes long. It was a video by a guy whose name is is not on the video. So I've got to try and find out what it is because he's a highly intelligent guy. It's very long, so I'm gonna play the whole of it. Thirty six minutes. No. I'm not. I'm just teasing. The first couple of minutes, he just talks about Trump's role, and I think it's worth just hearing this. And seeing as that we're talking about him, let's just pop this in right now.
[00:23:34] Unknown:
Well, I think that the useful thing about Trump, is that he can package the the dismantling of American empire as the building of American empire. That's what he's doing. Because you have to sell to your demographic, and Americans are not the most mature, the most realistic, the most responsible people in the world, the most well acquainted, with history and so forth. So you cannot possibly sell America's necessary downsizing and the the the the managed erosion of America and the hollowing out of America is, you know, we've made a lot of bad choices for a long for a very long time. We've only ever really made short term plans for the future.
So it turns out that there's a lot of unavoidable, necessary changes that have to be made at your expense. You can't really sell that to the American public. You can't tell the American public the consequences are a thing. That demographic of political consumers simply cannot compute a message like that. Because, look, what Trump is going to do, what he is doing, and what he will do, these are all things that were gonna happen anyway with or without him. He's just the one who's selling it to you as a good thing. That's his job. You know? He's like the guy at a company who who who is who is designated as the one to deliver the bad news to you that you're gonna be let go.
And you designate him for that job because, he has a way of presenting it to you. He has a way of presenting to you you being fired as the greatest opportunity of your life. You know? All the new horizons that you're gonna be able to pursue and so on. That's Trump. That's Trump's job. You know? America has been stuffing balloons up their sleeves for a very long time and telling everyone that their muscles, but now even the balloons are deflating. The great American hoax is over, and Trump is there to oversee the dismembering of American empire. The US is gonna be isolated. It's gonna withdraw, and it's gonna be noncompetitive globally.
And like I said, this is all unavoidable. This would have happened with or without Trump. You've simply come to the end of your life cycle as a hegemonic superpower, and the decay and the decomposition that will follow is just part of the natural process. Trump can't be blamed for that, and he can't be given credit for any of this. But his job is to make you think that none of it's happening, even while it's happening right in front of your face.
[00:25:51] Paul English:
I think that's a pretty spot on assessment of what's taking place, certainly an aspect of it. Gentlemen, what do you think?
[00:26:01] Patrick:
He's he's there for, distraction and, red herring, I think, with this this whole thing with the immigrants and that, the illegal aliens. Yep. They're they're it's it's meant to throw us a a bone as a red herring to keep us from questioning things. Like, why am I not making fair wages at my work? That can be then blamed on well, oh, there's so many, you know, illegals that have come and taken your, you know, your jobs that you don't want and all this kind of stuff. And and h one b visas of these educated foreigners that come in and get preferential treatment. And and that can be the used as the excuse when, in fact, it's just the the mere greed of the the bankers that a lot don't disallow it from happening and these wealthy industrialists that don't want to pay you a fair wage for your work when they should be. And I think it these the people in New York City, the the Wall Streeters, they're they're just laughing at people while this is taking place. It's like, the the Democrats, the Republicans, it doesn't matter.
Because all in all, they all meet at the same place every Saturday and and discuss these things behind everyone's back. That's my thought on it. Yep.
[00:27:25] Paul English:
Well, it's just like they've just turned the press I mean, I think the the sort of all these dramatic events that have been undergone in terms of protecting the border and all these overt things, good though they are, are part of a sort of smoke screen. And it is I think the guy had it right. His job is he's like a good salesman, you know, and built up this momentum over the past eight years, maybe even longer than that, I guess, pre the two thousand and sixteen elections. Probably maybe ten years now. And, so he's got or has started off with a great deal of support, and there are certain things that are being said. Like we talked about last week about freedom of expression.
You're gonna go back to the old America, free speech, but this is complete bunk. Something you can't isn't there something about to be passed now where you're not allowed to criticize a certain group of people?
[00:28:20] Paul Biener:
Well, of course. I I think it's narcissistic. It's attack and retreat. It is. You know, it it that's exactly what it is. It's attack and retreat. You give them something they want. You you suck them in, and then you you abuse them or, invade them, and then you do something nice for them. You pull them back in again. And it it's just this up and down thing. It's narcissistic. It's attack and retreat.
[00:28:52] Patrick:
Well, what I find interesting is he wants to put tariffs on Mexico and Canada when we're dependent on them. We're dependent on them whether we like it or not. We've given their our industry over there, and you you expect that these tariffs are gonna somehow do something to, bring it back. And it's it's like when everything's already been raided in in The in America Mhmm. And sold off to the same people. Like, for instance, where my grandpa used to work as a security guard, the Ford factory in Saint Paul, they built Ranger pickup trucks, small pickup lorries, as you call them. And they they've taken it. They brought brought it down to Mexico. Everything's Mexican now.
And the steel, we don't have any steel mills left, make or steel blast furnaces. We have to go to Canada to Sault Ste. Marie to get it. So you're taxing you're gonna tariff Canada. So all of our raw materials are coming from Canada if we if we have to rely on domestic and not Chinese imports, which all will also be tariffed. And then, what they did to the factory here is they said, oh, we're gonna take the factory, and we're gonna build schools, technical schools so we can teach people how to do do trades. Well, that lasted for maybe about ten years. And now they sold off the property, and it's all these these ugly apartment complexes and row houses by the ghetto. It's it's ridiculous.
[00:30:19] Paul Biener:
It I think what it is is it's an end run around inflation, or or another means of inflation. Because I think the original goal is to bring manufacturing back to The United States, but that's gonna take time. What is gonna happen is the tariffs being applied is gonna increase the cost of goods and services, which will increase the percentage of sales tax that people have to pay because they're paying the tariff twice, really. The the importer is paying the tariff. And because the retailer has a higher price price product, then the people are paying the hidden tax, and they're paying an increased sales tax on that.
And I don't think that the prices are ever gonna go back down. You know, you know, even when manufacturing moves to here because it'll be the law of supply and demand. It'll be, you know, what what a product is worth, whether it's made in China or made here. Tariffs led to the civil war here,
[00:31:28] Patrick:
And we have the same rhetoric that was coming out of the Biden group, against Russia that we have out of Trump now. He's he's his his tool for getting you know, ending the Ukraine war is to say to Russia, okay, Russia. If you don't end the Ukraine war, we're gonna sanction you. It's like, well, that's, you know, it's it's it's like any of these other things. We're gonna sanction, you know, the the state department. It's all about sanctions. It's the only weapon that they can wield that then can be backed by the military. It's like, well, you're you're pun punishing an entire it's collective punishment of what you're doing. You're you're basically saying anyone who lives in Iran or Russia, we're gonna punish you collectively and go after you entirely. And it's gonna lead to war. It's gonna lead to more war.
That's and no one's see no one's saying anything in the media. Obviously, it's controlled. So who and who do you talk to? You know? You've got people going rah rah, Trump. Oh, yeah. It's great. And it and it's it's the same it's the like they say, the Uniparty, Republicans and Democrats, conservatives and liberals. Yep. It's the same everywhere in the English speaking world. You know? It they they're playing us for fools.
[00:32:47] Paul English:
Well, I don't know. I think they've always I think they've always played us for fools. I mean and we are really in a way, but it's because we've not found a means of how to, take up arms against this sea of troubles. Sorry to work that one back in, but we haven't. We've not found a way to do that. I mean, I saw that the, whoever his name is, the head of China is not too according to newspaper things, you know, is not too happy with this idea that Gaza is not gonna be for the Gazans. Is that genuine? Or is it he in on the fix as well? Are they all in on the fix? I'm gonna work on the basis that they all are, which, of course, is rather a miserable thought, isn't it? I mean, are there grounds for optimism? There are, but they it's like they give, you know, six of those but take 12 of the other things away. So in the end, it's still going in the same direction. It's just that they've it appears, depending on when you look at the news, that things are good. So if you like if you like I was saying, if you're watching on Monday, great. Don't watch it Tuesday. You'd be really miserable. Come back on Wednesday, great.
Keep missing out every other day, and you'll just have a really false picture of what's taking place. You know, you end up in a in a place where you can't rely on anything, but this is by design too. So, you know, are they very close to their one world order? I suspect that we're on under it right now. Really? I mean, there's there's in terms of the people here, and it looks as though it's going the same way for you. Everybody, of course, we've seen a lot of reports that that we're living under a completely restrictive communication space over here, which we are, and people are saying it as though it's not going to apply to them. Come on.
They're rolling this out everywhere, and no one, it seems, none of the populace can get through to their supposed elect elected officials. Selected, of course, is the correct term, is the accurate one, to actually get them to engage as human beings. I mean, I am still on my little walkabout stopping anybody that I meet who I think is worth a chat and sort of trying to prize them up. And I bumped into some neighbors today and similar sort of chat, you know, as the one I mentioned last week. It's really nothing new to report. They're cheesed off, as we say over here in The UK. Almost about to get quite cross about the whole thing, which is sort of, you know, DEFCON three really for the English, getting a bit cross.
And, it's going on everywhere, but there's still no focal point of how we deal with it. So that that's kind of a negative. However, I remain open to the fact that strange and odd things are likely to happen in my view. I still think this is not a kind of a total fait accompli,
[00:35:26] Patrick:
but but we need to find means. Before. Yeah. We have. The parish level. Yeah. That's what it's still very, very good goal to pursue is is, at that local level, build up your your communication with your neighbors Yep. Because that's your first line of defense in any problem that we're gonna be confronted with.
[00:35:48] Paul English:
It is. And for the vast majority of us, your neighbors really do form, and your local area is at least 90% of your entire life whilst you're living there. It's probably more than that. I mean, people are obsessed with going on holidays. I can't even spell the word. It's so long since I had one. And, I don't sit around moping about it. Oh, I need to have the Well, Paul was talking earlier about inflation being a problem, and it is. And this is a solution to it is your local
[00:36:13] Patrick:
your your neighbor. And I'll I'll give you an example. I have a neighbor that I do bible study with, catechism study. Mhmm. And he's raising he started raising chickens over the summer and the fall. And now he's he's, you know, putting out lots of eggs. They've got 25 chickens or more. And it's good to know him because right now, the egg prices are ridiculous if you if you go to the store. I don't go to the store, but I hear about it, and it's, like, 7 to $9 if you go and buy a dozen of eggs. It's it's ridiculous.
[00:36:45] Paul English:
You guys are sitting there. Even more expense. What what what are English chickens charging for their produce, Eric? Have you got any idea what it what they're going right? Farm.
[00:36:54] Eric:
Yeah. Sorry. I didn't mean to charge in there, but, one pound 60 five. I don't I'm, what's that about? $2, I think it is, for some a dozen eggs. Yeah. And, for organic, I think you're talking about $2.50,
[00:37:07] Patrick:
which is about, what, $3, something like that. Well, here, everybody's trying to blame it on the calling of the the chicken herd or whatever they call them the flock because of bird flu. Mhmm. Right? We're we're back to the whole COVID pandemic scare demic type thing. It's it's not good, and it's, and and it's a kind of a, you know, domino effect. Oh, well, everybody else is charging a high rate, so I'm gonna charge a high rate. And, I see it on Facebook. It's so it's gotta be the same price, you know. Instead of looking at it from this is what my neighbors make, you know, for wages.
And then I'm gonna provide them with something that can sustain them and sustain myself and and give them a fair price rather than look at the prices of what they're charging in the the box stores, the Tesco's, the Walmart's, whatever it is, and say, this is the fair price. Get it from me. You know? Let's let's support each other and and put your money where the money's gonna be used locally and benefit you.
[00:38:12] Paul Biener:
I I mean, I heard this morning. Okay. I just I just heard this morning somebody went shopping and they looked at the, 18 count eggs. They were $17. It's almost a buck a piece. Come on. Give me a break.
[00:38:28] Paul English:
Yeah. For an egg. That's really expensive. Why are your egg I mean, I just thought
[00:38:34] Patrick:
food in general. Brother Nathaniel talk about San Francisco with $12 a a carton, 12 a dozen, which dollar an egg.
[00:38:44] Paul English:
Well, look. Do you I mean, I know George George has got chickens going. George Hobbs, who was on earlier today. Should be rich. Hey. Yeah. We all need to come on. Let George, we all wanna be your friend. He's gonna be a chicken billionaire at this or an egg billionaire. It's funny because I've always used eggs as that example when talking about, you know, demurrage. An example. Yeah. An example. That's why I pick it, of course. Yeah. Very well spotted. But when we talk we talk about eggs, because I don't know how long an egg stays an egg. I'll have to get George, and we'll have to do a chicken and egg show. I think it would be. Of course, we can ask him which came first. He he's bound to know because he's been around chicken so long now. But, that's hellishly expensive. Even I'm surprised, but I you know, my experience whenever I went to The States, long time last time 02/2005, that's twenty years ago now, but was always that the food was generally not as expensive as it was in The UK. And, yeah, I've seen videos of American tourists, as it were, over here running, you know, YouTube channels saying we're hopping around England and here's a cathedral. And it's kind of interesting, getting to see how they see the country. Of course, they're looking at all the nice bits.
I suppose I would if I came here, you know, I ought to go look at them one day. But, you know, one of the things they've said they were surprised that the food was less expensive and I I that struck me. I've never really ever heard that or even thought that that would be the case, but it obviously is. That's a loonies price for eggs. Maybe they Well, it's not recently, Paul. Yeah. It's only I gotta say it's only recently that that we have this egg inflation or whatever you wanna call it. I think you do. But I I mean, you know, maybe it's a show maybe this is a housewives special show today where we talk about the price of things. I would imagine as well there's got to be I haven't found one. Eric, you may have found one or even listeners may have found one. Some kind of a chart that shows that when someone over here, for example, earns a thousand pounds and spends it, what they actually are getting back. Because if you earn a thousand pounds you pay 20% tax on it.
And then when you're buying stuff that's all got VAT on it. So that's 20% of that goes away. So that's actually net another 16%. So out of the thousand pounds you're down to £640 worth of purchasing power. You then nibbled at by every bill which is going up considerably all the time. We've got all this situation now with council tax over here going up 5%, possibly 20% for what? Everybody's going what am I paying for?' And you're basically paying for never ending wars and to, you know, basically, keep this, commie globalist system going.
They are literally I mean, people are beginning to connect the dots more fully that we are paying for our own servitude and we're being kept in that condition. And, of course, we don't have any communication stands. What meanwhile, they're all running around going, well, you've got freedom and democracy, but you can't say anything. But you've still got free. And this is part of that cognitive dissonance thing, this sort of revelation of the method stuff, which came up on the Telegram group today, which is always a gem that's always worth revisiting. You know, this, confusion, which is definitely being sound.
And, you know, to repeat it again, Trump's communications days are very much like that. I'm gonna say something great now. And they'll go, yeah. That really is great. And then tomorrow, I'm gonna say something great as well, but it isn't great. It's awful. Every day is great, but half the days is or whatever it is, you know, he's just talking hellish terrible things. So I think we've got to just assume that they're all in it. I think that guy's assessment from that clip that we just played was pretty spot on. I wish I knew he was. The rest of it is just as good, if not more detailed, looking at the breakdown of things. I know it's more sort of fine tuning of the situation, but it it's there. We the fact, you know, even even though we don't like Sir Keir Starmer, there doesn't appear to be any any means of getting him out because the really powerful people don't want him out.
Whereas Liz Truss, they didn't want her, so they got her out. She didn't last, you know, fifty days. I'm not saying that means she would have been amazing or anything like that, but it obviously she started to actually try to be, let's put it that way, a prime minister for these nations as opposed to a prime minister for those people that have indirectly think that they've bought them all up. It's, it is a kind of fruition of a lot of themes that I guess many of us have been discussing for many many years and here we are right in the middle of it. And, of course, they're parading around with all their AI stuff now. What was that quote from Bill Gates? That's an absolute plank.
But, you know, he's all smug and smarmy about it. Oh, well, we're getting to a point where we don't need people anymore. You know, my question always when I see the word we is, oh, Bill, who's included in the we? Are we all included? So we all don't need any more people. All of us.
[00:43:40] Patrick:
You know. It's, I've been having fun with AI, with the DeepSeek stuff from China.
[00:43:45] Paul English:
Yeah. The DeepSeek.
[00:43:47] Patrick:
One of the most interesting questions you can ask DeepSeek or any of these AI programs is, who pays whom? So you take a celebrity or a politician and you ask who pays him, and it it'll it'll give you the list of of their employers. And it was it was something I was, I was looking I've been playing a lot of Candace Owens on Radio Windmiller. Right. And she's kind of come out of nowhere. Well, not really out of nowhere, but, I'm not quite sure about her. I'll put it that way, especially with her her relation to Yes. Your lord lord, Michael Farmer Yes. Who's the treasurer of the conservatives
[00:44:30] Paul English:
really? Over there. Yeah. He's probably quite well connected, I think, isn't he? Well, yeah. It's very interesting because his son,
[00:44:37] Patrick:
George, whom whom Candace is married to Yeah. He was he's been business partners with the son of the he was a former president of Lebanon back in February to whenever. And suppo he was assassinated supposedly by one of these Hezbollah guys. Right. Which I find very interesting. I mean the fact that, he's business partners with and you find these things out just by saying like, alright. Who pays Candace Owens? And it goes, oh, the daily wire, Ben Shapiro, all this kind of stuff. And then and then you ask, well, who pays her husband? Who pays him? You know? And then who's his business partner? Who pays him? And it's just like, you could really find out a lot of interesting stuff quickly. And I guess that's the point. You could sit and weed through Google search results and find this stuff on your own, but it's it's a lot makes it a lot quicker and simpler.
That's not to say that you're getting accurate information. That's the problem. No. Are you getting it? But but still, you like, Wikipedia, we know that Wikipedia is censored and edited by the usual suspects. So you take it with a grain of salt, but still you find useful information in the facts that you can glean from it.
[00:45:49] Paul English:
Well, you you give me a little end. We I've got a couple of AI clips here, courtesy of the Telegram group today. It's the same guy in both of them actually. He's an English guy called Geoffrey Hinton, who is apparently the godfather of artificial intelligence. How about that? So isn't that nice to know? I'm not saying he's a bad man or anything like that, but this is an interview he did with, Andrew Marr. You remember him, Eric, I assume. The guy with the sticky outer ears. He's, anyway, here's a little clip from it's a couple. I'll play the first one. It's only it's very brief. It's about consciousness and AI, except it's not playing. Hang on just a second.
Let me just have a look at something there. Why is that not doing that? That's very awkward. Alright. I think that might be the reason. Just a minute. Let me try this again. That's the wrong one. It's all going well isn't it? Hang on. Let's get the first one up first. At least I got the sound in. Here we go. This is the short one about AI being conscious.
[00:47:09] Patrick:
Is it playing? Because we don't I don't hear
[00:47:15] Unknown:
hear. The play's exactly the same way. So I tell you what
[00:47:19] Paul English:
ping. Let's start it over again. Yeah. Let's start again. Sorry about that. I've obviously, I don't really want to hear Geoffrey Hinton tonight, do I? We don't really want to hear him. Well, I don't want to hear him. Just a minute. Let me get this sorted out. Tick, tick, tick, tick, tick. Yep. That's right. Right, everybody. At last, the wonderful, the marvelous Geoffrey Hinton, first clip of two. Do you think that that consciousness has perhaps already arrived inside AI? Yes. I do. So let me give you a little test.
[00:47:47] Unknown:
Suppose I take one neuron in your brain, one brain cell, and I replace it by a little piece of nanotechnology that behaves exactly the same way. So it's getting pings coming in from other neurons, and it's responding to those by sending out pings. And it responds in exactly the same way as the brain cell responded. I just replaced one brain cell. Are you still conscious? I think you say you are. Yes. I I do suppose I'd notice. And I think you can see where this argument's going. I can. Yes.
[00:48:15] Eric:
I absolutely can.
[00:48:17] Paul English:
I can't. Can you see where that argument's going? That makes sense to me. I'm quite serious, by the way.
[00:48:23] Patrick:
Sounds very mystical and magical.
[00:48:25] Paul English:
Well, I guess you've got to define what consciousness is. So all he's talked about there, it's not that AI is conscious, it's that it's replaced a broken part according to them. They're not having my neurons, they're mine. I love my neurons, they're great. And, so it's just doing the same function. It doesn't mean that that little neuron is actually coming up with anything, does it? I don't you see, I just think it we're being convinced that this thing is conscious and we're using this sort of language, but it doesn't strike me that it is. It's just a souped up, you know, massive replicating and recording system that interrelates things. So it creates the appearance of it.
But why why would you think that therefore AI is conscious just because you've replaced a bit? You You know it's a bit like I suppose you could say, well you're becoming a robot because we put a new plastic joint in your knee. So robots are becoming human beings. No. I don't think so. The command center is still somewhere else. I mean I'm not saying that they're not working on that but I don't really go with that. Of course, Geoffrey Hinton's much more intelligent than I am so possibly he would kick my bottom in a discussion about that. Well, he's got better PR than you do. He does. He does. And he has a history of being sort of silly bright. Anyway, here's another one with him again.
It says, Geoffrey Hinton, the godfather of AI, says there is evidence AI is already manipulating us. Having, well maybe you'd be better off being manipulated by AI than we are being manipulated by the money power. Having learned deception techniques, he says, from human history. Well, it's our fault, of course. Recent studies show that AI behaving in a deliberately deceptive way, including purposely behaving differently during training versus in testing. This is another relatively brief clip. Here it is.
[00:50:12] Unknown:
Do you think that this is already happening? That the AIs are already manipulating us?
[00:50:19] Unknown:
There's some evidence now. There's recent papers that show that AIs, can be deliberately deceptive, and they can do things like behave differently on training data from on test data so that they deceive you while they're being trained. So there is now evidence they actually do that. Yeah.
[00:50:38] Unknown:
And do you think there's something intentional about that or that's just some pattern that they pick up?
[00:50:44] Unknown:
I think it's intentional. But I'm there's still some debate about that. And, of course, intentional could just be some pattern you pick up back.
[00:50:55] Paul English:
We're doomed, lads and lasses. We're doomed. Are we? Are we doomed? What do you think? Do you think we're doomed? Do you think that adds to the doom?
[00:51:02] Patrick:
Does does AI have a soul? Is that the question?
[00:51:07] Paul English:
It may be. But then do we do we, as human beings, even know what a soul is, you see? Do we know?
[00:51:13] Patrick:
It's it's the invisible force that acts upon our body. Is it? I think it's been hyped up. The the soul the the the body is the form of the soul. Oh, that's I I I don't know. I think I think AI is, artificial is kind of a weird word for it. I would just call it archival intelligence, like using archived information intelligently. Of co of course.
[00:51:37] Paul English:
Go on, Eric. Yeah. Sorry.
[00:51:39] Eric:
Sorry. I didn't mean to chime in there, but but Richard d Hall.
[00:51:43] Paul Biener:
He I don't know if you heard of Reggie d Hall on richmond.com.
[00:51:46] Eric:
I think it was him. I'm sorry, Richard, if I'm wrong. They're saying that AI has nothing to worry about,
[00:51:52] Patrick:
and I think it's hyped up. Yeah. I don't think it's anything to be to worry about.
[00:51:57] Eric:
Moon landings and it's things. But going back to Trump, you know, the Gulf Wars, the two Gulf Wars, they were great big business opportunities. Look at Kuwait when it was rebuilt. It's the American firms that got all the contracts for that. So, really, to a lot of people, especially Trump, I think war is kind of real estate. It's where you can actually a chance to rebuild and kick start a sort of an economy type of thing. Look at World War two. Look how much money was made out of World War two. It's the same all the way through.
[00:52:33] Patrick:
And I think it's I'm it's great and all, but but the loss of life is Precisely. Is it worth it?
[00:52:41] Paul English:
No. It's not. No. That that that's the thing. Well, it is to them. Because we're yeah. But So they don't lose their lives. They don't lose their lives, do they?
[00:52:50] Eric:
Yeah. But look at psychopaths. Psychopaths don't give a shit about life because I believe, and doctor Hare, who's a lead is a Canadian doctor, who's a leading authority on it, has come very close to saying that psychopaths are not human. They are a, subspecies of human because their brain, their especially the hippocampus in their brain is completely different to ours. So in that sense, you know, there there are there are very small percentage, yes, but they always get to the top because they think differently to us and they react differently to us. And they use, to a slight well, as shall we say, to do the footwork for them, and they hide in the shadows. That's the real fact of the matter.
And it's money, money, money. And when you look at who these companies are owned by, it goes back to the same people every time. Rothschild, Rockefellers, you name it. Every time. It always leads back to there. Yeah. The Wailing Wall Street. Yeah.
[00:53:56] Paul English:
I like that well. And the question is, is Geoffrey Hinton a psychopath then?
[00:54:01] Eric:
I'd imagine. I don't know. It it it's very difficult because some people are sociopaths. There's narcissists. It's very difficult to actually you can say someone's a psychopath when they might not be. They might be a sociopath.
[00:54:14] Patrick:
I was I was looking at, you can you can kinda tell by the way a person looks. There's this company called Palantir, which, supposedly, they're using AI to target people in Gaza. The the IDF is using Palantir technology, and it's it's this guy named Alex Karp. Now look up Alex Karp, and then tell me that this guy isn't doesn't look like a psychopath just based on the way he looks. He's he's started this Palantir with Peter Thiel, who Peter Thiel is the big PayPal dude that worked with Elon Musk. And it's just it's it's the same type of mentality. Musk is is the same way.
Here's a guy, oh, well, the AI, it's gonna replace our brain cells and blah blah blah. It's just to me, it's a joke. It's a big nothing. It you're just taking computers and applying it to archives and then coming up with a clever means of putting things together. Mhmm. So these people That's what I think is You know, they're clever, but they're evil clever. And I think they're human. I don't think they're subhuman or anything. They're human, but they choose to do evil. These people choose. It's not they're not demons. They're not any of this other stuff. But they they somehow or another, they're led to believe that by doing evil, they're gonna somehow correct humanity from itself, from destruction.
And it's not working. We need to be able to take the control from these people because they're psychopaths. They're people who don't deserve what they have. They're it's ill gotten cane, and they're parading it around like somehow they deserved it. And it's a meritocracy that we live in, and they have to, you know, reiterate that kind of stuff. Like, Trump has been lately saying, well, I'm bringing in a meritocracy. We deserve it. You know, the people now in charge are gonna be the people who deserve to be in charge. It looks like no. This this is the same mentality that the last batch had, and look what they did. It's not any different. It's team a and team b. It's like football.
It's the Eagles versus the Chiefs. And by the way, I I said something wrong. Taylor Swift's boyfriend isn't the quarterback. He's the tight end. Matrix. I got corrected.
[00:56:29] Paul English:
Which is your home of fame? For our US Celebrity and sports news. It's terrible. Come on then. Who who who's who's who's bird is Taylor Swift then, as we would say here in England? Who's bird? I have no idea. Yeah. No. She's a bird. So she's classed as a bird. The bird. Yeah. She's the bird. So someone's someone's bird is Taylor Swift. Who's that someone? Did you get the name wrong or something? Or has she liked it? Was she the bird of someone last year on the Kansas doodahs?
[00:56:56] Patrick:
No. Oh, it's the same dude. Alright. Dude, at least she's, you know, at least she's got some loyalty. The last person I think she was with was from England, so she was, like, there for Oh, I'm sorry to hear that. Years. And, yeah, we we gave her to you for a while and we passed her back. And it's just like, nah. Well, thank you.
[00:57:14] Eric:
But but let let let's face it. The most of these high ups are related. For example, Stanley Dunham, who was a CIA agent, is Barack Obama's grandfather, and he's also George Bush senior's cousin.
[00:57:29] Patrick:
Oh, it's like the Rothschilds. They all marry their first cousins and Yeah. Aunts and, you know, nephews and it's just
[00:57:37] Eric:
Yeah. But it's just so so you got the CIA agent who's George Bush senior's cousin, and he's also the grandfather of Obama. It's it's just that that you you could make it up.
[00:57:51] Patrick:
Well, you couldn't. Think of Reality is more interesting. A better way?
[00:57:56] Paul Biener:
Is is there any better way to keep the money in the family?
[00:58:00] Patrick:
Right. Well, that's where they do it, isn't it? Yeah. It looks like the the rough jobs.
[00:58:05] Eric:
Go back to psychopaths. What there's a couple of I mean, I don't know if you've ever heard, of a book called Puzzling People by oh, I can't remember the chap's name now. I don't agree with a lot of it. I disagree with quite a bit. I'll be in a polite way. He might be right. I might be wrong. I don't know. But, but what I've found but what he does say is that, and I've seen this a lot. A psychopath, when they, meet you, they will scan you up and down for a while before it kind of plugs into their brain who you are. It's a very strange thing. And you look at these senior directors who are real psychos. They will scan. They just go up and down before they say anything.
And that there's a lot of little mannerisms that you can notice with them, because, again, they don't think or react like us. And the other one, they can turn on instant emotion and instantly switch it off, where we can't. Dogs can. And not saying dogs are psychopaths, but animals can switch emotions on and off. But psychopaths can switch our emotions on and off and look very good at it.
[00:59:09] Paul English:
So, you know, and that's active most of the time. That's my little 10p would be. So Well, no. We should we should carry on with our psychopathic assessment after the break. We're just at the top of the hour here. You listen to Paul English live on WBN three two four. I'm here with the crew of, Fletcher's and Aerosmith's, The Archers this week, Patrick, Paul, and Eric. Now this is a song that was a big hit in 1921. Okay? I think it was. Woah. Yeah. I I thought what's the oldest thing I could find that I quite liked? And, Patrick, this was on the seventy eights collection. I heard it earlier today and I thought When was it? Nineteen twenty one? This is 1921. I wanted to try and find something a little bit more recent. You know? Some four microphones,
[00:59:52] Patrick:
Paul.
[00:59:53] Paul English:
Okay. They played this in the they they sang into a horn in order to make this recording. Well, I knew that. That's why I picked it especially for you. You see, I just knew it would be a good one. So this is called Down Yonder by the Peerless Quartet, which I know they were very famous. They were the big boy band of their day, in The States in '19 Victor records. Yeah. Cool. Steam Abbey Road over there. Cool. So we're gonna play this for three minutes and then we'll be back, for the second hour. Hang around and here you go. Get ready with your logos. Down Yonder 1921.
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[01:04:13] Paul English:
And we hope you're recovered from that. It's worth me saying as well that on WBN, it is assumed that you are 18 years and older for all all the shows are for mature audiences who've got brains, possibly. Of course, to actually have heard that record when it originally came out you'd have had to be over 18, just to let you know. So that was from 1921 and I've got a message that the show is just being canned because we can't play songs that are that old. But there you go. I doubt if I'll be able to puts me false teeth back in. I doubt if we're able to find one much older than that. I can imagine that you were all rocking along gaily with that one, lads. Was that did that tick all the boxes? Incredible.
[01:04:53] Eric:
Isn't it amazing? Listen to the diction of it. And weren't they clear diction? And the reason why, because they had to belt it out in those days because they they didn't have, well, as Patrick said, didn't have microphones or or was it Paul that said it? I don't know. But they didn't have microphones, and they had to really be good singers. And, isn't it amazing, though, that they sung it during a heavy rainstorm? No. I'm joking. But seriously, though.
[01:05:17] Paul English:
Well, I was if we could read if we could get the words, Eric, maybe we could turn it into sort of, one of the Fockem Hall album's greatest hits. I think we should have male choirs dressed as barbers with those sorts of things, you know, like a barbershop quartet singing. I love I love it all and it made me think slightly of Monty Python when they do those sorts of organized old fashioned songs, you know, like the lumberjack song and things like this. And, but I loved it and there's a nice chord and a nice melody change in there. So I'm obviously hitting my senile years sooner than I thought, but I really I really liked it. And I thought, well, I'm probably I mean, if you find anything older, Patrick, let us know, but it's gotta be as good as that because that was cracking. I thought, you know, down yonder.
[01:05:59] Eric:
Yeah. Yeah. But there is older because I know for a fact because my granddad, who was born in '9 1888, he's, to earn a little bit of money for himself, a little bit of pin money, he went down the markets, and he used to have, like, a sort of a I don't know what you call it, like a tray in front of him. And he knew that it was they had cylinders in those days where they they and then Yeah. Edison. Edison wax. And he realized that records were the way to go. So he used to sell records, and people used to come up to him and go through the records and buy records from him because he realized that cylinders were bulky and the records are the best ones. And now that must have been he must have been in his teens. So what? We're talking about the early Edwardian times? And I know that during the first World War, didn't they have I think they had wind up grammar phones, didn't they, in the first World War? In the trenches, they would take the recording
[01:06:56] Patrick:
apparatus for making records. They would capture the enemy and make them play their songs so that they could set ambushes. They'd put records out of the captured enemy song. Yeah. This is recorded in a a book called Music Go Around by Fred Gaisberg, who was one of the pioneers of of recorded music. He actually started Abbey Road Studios back in I don't know. Way back in May.
[01:07:23] Eric:
And another thing they did is that I know that POWs in a German prison war camp, Germany had their sights set on taking over Great Britain, and they wanted to teach Germans a different accents. So they got people to they recorded people's different accents, which a lot of them have completely disappeared now. And they found this in an archive, and it was released all about fifteen, twenty years ago. I don't know whether it was under I don't know where where but it had been stored for years. And it was amazing to hear people talking with accents that are completely extinct now. You know what?
[01:08:02] Patrick:
That reminds me because I I I have researched, recorded music and and particularly the gramophone. In the Encyclopedia Britannica I have from 1910, it talks about by looking at the grooves on the records, you can tell what language the person is speaking based on the the waveform of the grooves. And they were going into that much detail even back then. So it's it's quite the science and it always has been ever since they invented it. But the thing of it is like Gaisberg, a lot of the recordings that they kept, they had two the two main recording plants that they had in Europe were in London and then Hamburg, Germany.
And a lot of the field recordings were kept in Hamburg from World War one. And as part of the Treaty of Versailles, those those recordings ended up in the British Museum.
[01:09:02] Paul English:
Well, it's it's good that we're being all in. Patrick, do you know, were the Peerless Quartet American or English? I'm assuming American because it's from your side. I'm pretty sure they're American.
[01:09:11] Patrick:
But then again, we had a lot of immigrants. Like, the person who invented it, the flat disc was Emil Berliner. He was from obviously, he's German. So Mhmm. He was a German immigrant to America, and a lot of these people were I'm not sure about Gaisberg. I think he was German too, but I don't know how long they were But do you know who made the first first recording ever?
[01:09:34] Eric:
And that was in 1857. Frenchman. The Frenchman called Edouard Leon Scott de Mandeville. And that has a name, ain't it? Yeah. In 1857.
[01:09:45] Patrick:
And twenty years later And it was on paper.
[01:09:48] Eric:
They they weren't able to play it back. That's the crazy They they they recently had managed to play it back. Yes. Yes. Yeah. And it's quite something.
[01:09:57] Patrick:
Because they the the apparatus was kind of like you have you ever seen those earthquake seismograph recorders that that sit and go on a scrolling piece of paper? I I I think that's how he did it initially.
[01:10:12] Eric:
It it's quite amazing. And, apparently, the first file of first, sorry, the first fax machine was around about that time as well. Similar to that. The French. The French were quite advanced. It was quite amazing. The French? Do you realize what you've just said? Yeah.
[01:10:31] Paul English:
The French? What are you talking about, Eric? Will you stop this? It's very worrying.
[01:10:35] Eric:
I know. It's disgusting, isn't it? Do you know who was the most tax well, do do you know, that victors always write history books, and that's why French history books have got so many blank pages? Sorry. That's a terrible one. Actually, truth be known, they were the most successful army for years, and they seconded the, it's the first was the Romans, and then it was the French, believe it or not. Yes. The Gauls. Yeah. Yes. But, no, really, it when you see that, it's it's a bit like these old photographs, and the these old things that they're still finding now. And they written there is a photograph of the Bronte sisters. And they written it's a it's a of the Bronte sisters. When were they That was quite When were they around? They're about 18, fifties, something like that. Oh, okay.
Wow. So that's quite early. It's very, very early. It is? Oh, yeah. It must have been about what? 04:00 in the morning or four? It's bloody early, though, ain't it?
[01:11:45] Paul English:
Yeah. It was. Yeah. Well, I think that's all I think that's great. It's good. So I think we'll be challenged to find something much older but you can always dig it up if you like. But it's just, you know, that's just a hundred years old that so it's a hundred and five years old and you would have to say that musical tastes seem to have changed quite a bit since then, like considerably, like almost unrecognizably. I can't imagine those chaps would enjoy much of the bilge that's produced these days.
[01:12:15] Patrick:
Yeah. And and that's because you have the producers of it. They they think a certain way, and they stick to their tribe. And so all of all of these Mozarts and and that sort that could be don't get the exposure that they should have. Mhmm. And you'd think that with the test of time, people would be going back to those things and rerecording them. Mhmm. But they don't because a lot of our modern copyright was a a consequence of the gramophone, what we consider copyright. They use that as a legal weapon to keep people from, you know, artistic and as a means of censoring people. Just look at YouTube, for instance. I mean, we we we might be broadcasting on you YouTube for all I know. But the they if you play
[01:13:02] Paul English:
if they don't like what you you say and you play any sort of commercial music, they can use that commercial music as the actual the reason for booting your your thing off. Well, it's interesting that you mentioned that because I have a little bit of pre show music. Well, I don't know what you call that. The bumper of the bumper or something. I don't know all these technical terms. But, we actually start the show now one minute. I I start talking at one minute past eight or one minute past three, because we're missing the first minute, which is a pity because those first minutes, they were some of the best minutes I ever did. No. So, and last week, the track that I use, which I just quite like, that came up. So what YouTube do is they say, hey. There's a copyright on this. And most of them go through.
Most of them go through because if you found it on a non official account on YouTube, the song, you know, some somebody else has put it up and it's still there. You're okay with it. That's almost like pre vetting the thing. But I thought to avoid it, so they ban it in certain regions and stuff. It's all super sophisticated and rather tiresome and boring, to be quite honest. But there you go. That's kinda what happens. It's modern day censorship.
[01:14:12] Patrick:
That's how they do it. And it was how they did it back then. Yeah. And that's how they stole I I have you ever heard the story that, Thomas Edison invented motion pictures and then the technology was stolen?
[01:14:24] Paul English:
I have. And they're the package Shipped out to that. Yeah. They ran away three and a half thousand mile miles to to California and got on with it when they was created. Yeah.
[01:14:34] Patrick:
Well, the it this stems from that because the the whole, the the the lawsuit that created copyright was to prevent Edison from from taking over or for, you know, claiming his rightful patent and invention. Mhmm. And it was, the two the two main companies that benefited from it were Victor Records of New Jersey and then Columbia Records of DC. Right. And and those went on to become what they are today. Like, I think Victor Records is what we call Sony.
[01:15:09] Paul English:
Yeah.
[01:15:10] Patrick:
Columbia is now
[01:15:12] Paul English:
Universal or some some group like that. Is it an urban myth or is it true that Sony stands for Standard Oil New York?
[01:15:19] Patrick:
I have no idea. I've never heard that one. But Yeah. Because, obviously, it's it's in Japan.
[01:15:25] Paul English:
And as part of the post World War two industrial, recovery of Japan, but, of course, every Japanese prime minister is a freemason.
[01:15:33] Unknown:
Every single one. Didn't didn't they get involved in the war because of, an oil embargo
[01:15:39] Patrick:
or sanction?
[01:15:40] Paul English:
Yeah. They were compelled. It was they were yeah. They were compelled. You could everything's about so called economics or the or resources or this, that, and the other. It always traces back to this. And I think this is part and parcel one of the reasons why energy technology, if it is able to burst into the world, and according to Cliff Hite, it's definitely gonna do that this year. I heard him say the other week, something like, watch out this year, maybe kicking off in May or even sooner than that, that the control of that space is the bad guys are gonna lose it. And this could be why they're in such a rush with all this massive sort of war stuff, this nonsense stuff, this distraction stuff, the great you know, the theater has has been ramped up massively ever since we started this year, ever since Donald, you know, put his trousers on and got going with his lines and everything like that. But, of course, you don't need to be a rocket scientist to work out that if you can come up with as much power as a rocket, and it not cost anything, you've got something seriously going on. And the history of the people that have created these things, I'm convinced that they exist because it's just ludicrous to think that we're still using all these things that were invented nearly a hundred years ago. You know, the internal combustion engine is what? Eighteen eighty or something? You know, it's not that it's a bad thing. It's been refined and refined and refined, but these things absolutely exist. And there was what's his name?
Stanley was it Mayer? The guy in The States. Yeah. Yeah. Mayer was you know, he goes to a meeting. Mayer. Yeah. Goes to a meeting in his car that's running on water, basically splitting getting the hydrogen out of it and running it, which is what it's all about. And a few days later or a few months later he's dead, you know. And I know someone here locally who's told me a tale about someone like that had converted their BMW to run on water. So this is obviously the case. And I'm sure I saw a tweet the other day courtesy of oh, another of the great actors in the world play, Elon Musk, saying that, they've had enough with electricity and they're going to hydrogen.
Seriously, have you seen that? Yeah. It makes complete sense, doesn't it? Yeah. Yeah. Yes. JCB, I've, though. All
[01:17:45] Eric:
JCB, they've, Yes. Perfected a hydrogen engine, and they're JCB, I don't know if you got them in America, but they they they do all these, trucks and, diggers and things like that for the building sites. Uh-huh. And, they used to have Ford engines, and I don't know whether they've worked with Ford with it, but they they, yeah, got a they got over to hydrogen. They they realized it it worked. Well, he's his problem with Tesla is the fact that you need batteries for electrical storage, and if you can use a hydrogen fuel cell,
[01:18:16] Patrick:
which divides back the the or brings back the hydrogen to the oxygen, and then that process creates heat, and and heat creates the electricity. Mhmm. It then powers the electrical motor. So there's really no combustion whatsoever. Where there's some people that take hydrogen and they recumbust it, that's a that's a different thing than a hydrogen fuel cell. And I think what he's going for is the hydrogen fuel cell idea where you could quickly, fill a tank with hydrogen and then go. Because the problem with the the Tesla cars is you have to charge them and they take forever, and then you get cold weather, which is a factor in in a battery charge
[01:18:55] Paul English:
and that's the creates the problem. So Battery cars are just they're they're just simply not thought through, are they? They're mad. They're completely mad. I mean, we've mentioned it before when you go and see that footage you don't have to see much of it. Someone will sort of throw up of those poor African lads that are thrown in those holes digging up the lithium and stuff. Mhmm. It's sick. It really is sick again. It's like, oh, I thought we'd left Victorian age of sending little boys down coal mines. Yeah. Isn't that what Marx was all about? Yeah. Yeah.
And, it's just it's a nonsense. And, of course, they're being ripped off. They're having to go down these holes to produce all this stuff. The end of the chain is worth a great deal of profit for whoever, whichever electric car manufacturer is doing or battery car manufacturer is doing it. And, of course, they're being paid crap again. This is it's just, you know, it's fundamentally owned Sam. Liberals that are sitting there saying that,
[01:19:48] Patrick:
oh, we need a clean electricity. You know, I'll send the little African boy down the cave.
[01:19:55] Paul English:
This I mean, when when these things are driven by politics, they're always a cock up. But I think that's the reason why they allow it to be driven by politics because politicians are basically incredibly limited in their abilities apart from receiving praise and thanks and receiving honours for all the wonderful work that they've done for us, which nobody can remember what it was, but apparently got in the newspapers. There's loads of it. They're just an absolute boon to us all, these people, but it it really is. I mean, I prefer I like internal combustion engines because you can hear them coming. Yeah. And Well, you can hear them coming. Speaker to these electrical cars and just Well, that's it. Might fall back into the audio sphere again, or you could have a guy maybe with a wax cylinder on the back winding it through. We go back we're really going super retro with this one so that you know that the car this is a recording of a Mercedes Benz from 1925. You can make your car, I suppose, sound like anything. Good. And I I guess with modern audio technology, that wouldn't be impossible, you know, with all this sort of micromanagement of sound spaces. It's unbelievable.
I remember seeing something years ago about the design, the future design of nightclubs. Not that that would mean anything to me as I you know, I wouldn't go in no matter what they did with them. But, they they created a speaker. I don't know if you've seen this, which is not a speaker at all. It was like, a six inch metal tube, that they bolted into the ceiling. At the bottom of the tube, it came to a point a bit like the thing they use on a lathe. I don't know the name of it because I'm a thicko. But when they're holding the the work in place, there's like this pointed thing and kind of stuff. And, so they set them up on the ceiling and they're they are emitters. They emit frequencies and you have to have at least two, and I guess it's all to do with whatever computer system you've got driving the whole thing. Maybe the more the merrier. But what occurs is that they emit sound waves. You can't hear anything at the point where they're coming out. But where they collide with the other one, the sound comes literally out of nothing.
It comes out of nowhere.
[01:21:53] Patrick:
Yeah. Point yeah. But I think that's a binaural type, sound where you get two competing waveforms that, Yeah. Coincide with each other and they cause
[01:22:05] Paul English:
movement. Like, you can deal with it. So the sound is not coming from any one source. It literally fills up the entire space. There's no sort of like, oh, there's the speakers. I'll stand away from them. No. The whole place is. And you could even design the room with a, an invisible line in it. So if you had a bar and you didn't want the din and the racket going into it, you can set it up so there's literally an invisible line where the sound ends. So you could be stood on the dance floor, you know, because we all like to go dancing, don't we lads? So you stood on the dance floor, grinning and baring it, and you go, I can't be doing this. You just step one foot to one side, and it's completely silent. Who knows?
I'm sure that's all quite possible.
[01:22:45] Unknown:
Have you noticed though with these electric cars, they're bringing out retro cars out. They've actually relaunched
[01:22:51] Eric:
cars, a modern version of the February and, two CV. But can't they go forward? I mean, what what I mean, we're seeing comedies. That are still popular. 40 Towers, that was what? Forty odd years ago? Fifty odd years ago? Yeah. Yeah. Where are the new where are the new products? It's just like the music industry. No new new products. That's right. I I I mean, really, I'd have thought by now we'd have had real super du I mean, when you look at these small one seater electric vehicles, they're not individually carriages. They are horrible. Absolutely. I can't I know. A bit slick.
[01:23:28] Paul English:
Wouldn't you say this is across the board though, Eric? I would. I mean, I don't know what it's like with novel writing, not that I read any novels or anything like that. But everything just seems derivative. It's in sort of an accountancy world. Like with films, you do part one, two, three, four, you know, whatever it is. Halloween part 395 is coming out soon or whatever, you know. And and I think it's to do with the overall demoralization of people. Now it's not specifically the right word, but there is a lack of fun in the world. Spontaneous silly fun. There there just isn't any.
Everybody's deadly serious. They talk far too long as if you're really interested in the background to their lives. No one is really. Just get on with your own stuff. Your nearest and dearest are. I think that's really important. You have your own crew. But, when I watched them talking I mean, they they had these boy bands that kicking around the nineties. They're doing these documentaries as if they actually contributed something of importance to anything. They're complete crap. All of them. I mean, there's not one of them. I mean, you got it's just stupid nonsense. There's no it's just silly sort of sex stuff. You got is that it? You know, we play the beach. Stuff. It is. It's just crap. It's it's totally trite crap. And the whole news media has become Right. Just gossip. It is. It's fine, isn't it? It's not cheeky. It's not it's not rude in the right sort of way. It's not, it's not savage in the right sort of way. I I can listen to just about anything. Well, that's not true. But I I can listen to a lot of things and a lot of things I don't like, but I can tell when I I have a sense that it's good or that there's someone's heart and soul went into it. That I think that counts even if I don't like the end product at that particular time. I mean, I remember getting albums and so you go out and buy an album, you play it through the first time, you were lucky if you liked one track and you go oh god this is awful!' Three weeks later it it revealed itself more slowly. It was a bit like, you know, first being exposed to classical music.
My ears were up for that when I was 10. I couldn't cope with it, but some people could. They loved it, you know. I'm gonna play violin and off they go. It's fantastic if you're that in tune that early on, but I was a bit sort of stupid, I guess, in in that particular way. You just pick your stuff. But since Blair got in over here, I don't know what happened over there Clinton at the same time or something, that's Bill. It's just been pants. And, yeah, I think we we've mentioned this before. Certainly in The States, you can track it back inside the music industry to that radio decision that that Clinton made where these massive corporations bought up all the radio stations and basically replaced the station managers, which was this outlet for spontaneous, you know, second rate stuff. The thing about second rate music is and there always used to be some. It wasn't always fantastic in the sixties and seventies. A lot of garbage produced.
But the thing is that the good stuff stands out. It really leaps out at you when you hear it. And, of course, it's in contrast to all the other stuff. Whereas now, everything is so perfectly produced with all this other stuff. It's what is that about? You know? Oh, great.
[01:26:33] Patrick:
Now you know? Reminds me of the Rockefeller notion that competition is a sin. Mhmm. Keeping the monopoly going. Yeah. So you you get rid of your competition and and and make them fearful of even trying thinking about competing with you. And that's kind of the way these things have worked out with the music and that and the cultural things. It's like everybody's so afraid of of doing something that will get them on you know, make you know, publicly make them like a fool or something. Yep. And then they they don't do it. It's the same with, like, broadcasting. We I I remember William Cooper was around the time of the nineteen nineties when that all was going on, and he was on shortwave radio. He had more people listening to him than wartime BBC.
Mhmm. And he was doing something quite interesting. He was telling people that they should start their own radio station with, you know, start out with a small low wattage amplified signal and do it FM so you're not, you know, bouncing all over the place, and you just have a local group of people that you you broadcast to. And if we I think that's the way it should be, and people should stop being fearful about it and actually just do it. Start their own radio station. Have a have a, you know, 40, hundred 50 watt station going.
And then you can get people involved because and you have your local parish, whatever we were talking about parishes again. But Mhmm. You can you have access to people just being able to tune in whenever they want to. And the it's not a complicated technology like the Internet seems to be more I mean, it complicates things. It makes it harder to do it. But if you and and that's the way it should be. There should be competition so that you don't have a George Soros coming out of nowhere with a a load of money made off of, you know, scamming British people on on the pound back in the day like he did. And then and then coming in and buying up all the radio stations and saying, well, no one else can compete with me because I've got all the licenses, and I've got permission, you know, to to broadcast here and there and everywhere.
When everybody should be doing it and getting as large of a a an amplifier as you can get and and can afford in broadcasting.
[01:28:51] Paul English:
Well, I'm sure the talent's still out there. I'm sure the talent's there. It is. I mean, I've heard it. There's all sorts of people out there are quite brilliant, but you have to really hunt to find it. There's a sea of stuff, isn't there? And I guess, you know, if you look at sort of the booming YouTube channels and all this kind of stuff, it's fantastic in a way. But they're all micro audiences or very small, which is understandable. And this is why I guess some people are just so sensationalistic in their presentation to try and get the eyeballs and to connect up with them. Whether that's a useful sort of a good use of time or not, I I don't know.
[01:29:25] Eric:
Yeah. But a big trouble, because I've I've seen a lot of these, because I kinda like, big bands and and and sort of music from the forties, thirties, quite interesting. Also a lot of modern stuff as well, but or some, but not all. And what gets me is you see, a glamorous lady dressed in a sort of nineteen thirties or forties frock with a band behind them, all dumped, and they're all covered in tattoos. It doesn't seem like Oh, yeah. The Amy Winehouse's. Yeah. Yeah. And and or or slag tags as as as a lot of people call them. And and quite on the seat, slag tags.
Or two. Have you heard that? Yeah. Oh, it's coming to slag tags. Like that. American. Yeah. But, really, have you, heard, Patrick or Paul of the, pirate ships that we had over here in the sixties?
[01:30:13] Patrick:
You heard about that? Yeah. The pirate radio?
[01:30:15] Eric:
Yeah. And the way the government lied to, shut them down because they were broadcasting quite legally. And they were beyond, I think, is it the five mile limit or something like that? And what happened is the reason they were, closed down is they was frightened of them broadcasting the truth. That was the real reason. And they made out that the, wavelength they were broadcasting on was upsetting emergency services. Mhmm. People were were dying because emergency services couldn't get round round that was Pleans will fall out of the sky. That's right. It was made up. And what happened, there there's a place called Clacton. I don't know if you ever heard of it. You know? Clacton On Sea. Isn't that its full name? That's right. Oh.
Yeah. Well, you know, they they they saw as it's, I left my heart in San Francisco. Well, really, original one was I left my heart in Clacton On Sea. You know? Yeah. It's got It's I think the original's got a bit more romance to it, actually, now that I think about it. Yeah. Clacton On Sea caught me in. Yep. There's a conspiracy theory. They say that you can smell the sea air on a Thursday afternoon when all the burger bars are closed, but I'm not quite sure about that. But, anyway, what what happened, it was a very depressed area. It's a lot of high unemployment. And these, ships were out. And, apparently, the the a lot of the dish jockeys said that you could see the lights of the other pirate ships because there's loads of them. Because what happened is there's a load of Liberty ships that were made during World War two going cheap.
So they bought them up and converted them so that, they could, you know, broadcast because the main American companies actually had this idea. Anyway, what happened is fishermen, earn a lot of money because these boats had to be supplied. So they went out supplying the boats. And local businesses started to boom because they were supplying food and all kinds of things. And also, the fishermen would take tourists out to see these boats. There's a lot of tourists that are interested in it. And it and places like Clacton who that were depressed were starting to boom. There's people, you know, there's money being made. Of course, the government couldn't have that, so they they put a stop to it. And, they actually brought the special service. I think they I think they used the SAS, didn't they, to storm one of the ships? And, again, that was all totally illegal.
Not the pirate ships, but the government were acting illegally because, officially, they were outside the five mile limit. So it was, a lot of the shit of the borough that the government was coming out with, but it was thanks to Harold Wilson and his government that closed those pirate ships. And a lot of the disc jockeys went over to the BBC after that, and the rest is history. Well, when did you have to pay the BBC tax? Always. Have to pay radio license. Always. Yeah. But you used to have radio license. They stopped that in the sixties, I think. But you had to if you had a radio, you had to pay a license for it at one time. You had to pay for it. You had to pay to listen to the radio. Yeah. So yeah. Okay. Yeah. But radio is really important in in regards to this because
[01:33:30] Patrick:
look at, I'm I'm reading the book on Dresden by David Irving. And the the thing that that radio the role that radio stations played back then to and compare it to now, it's, very important as as far as, communicating with large groups of people and and feeding information to them. It it's not to be underestimated because that that there is the reason that a lot of, you know, problems happen and and actually solutions to things can happen.
[01:34:06] Paul English:
Is that well, it's a more dynamic medium in a way. Oh, it's got the sense of it being instant, really arriving in real almost I know it doesn't literally, but that's the impact of it. It's a more I don't know. There's just a it's a bit like faxes always carried a lot of weight when everybody was sending faxes to everybody because the fax machine, I guess, has completely disappeared now. But the fax had a because it makes a sound in the office and everybody other than you knows that something's going on. There's always little subtle things that take place around communications technology for granted. And when they're not there anymore, you realize that people kind of don't know what's happened. Whereas, you know, in an office if a fax came in, everybody thought, is that an order? They're all like, yeah, great. And everybody gets a bit giddy about it so it keeps team morale going, all those sorts of things. Everything's a little bit more quiet about it. But radio has been and remains a dynamic thing for all of us as as we are, you know, pounding on here seeking to build up some momentum around Internet radio, I guess, which I still think is a marvelous thing. But we're just, you know, we're competing for a lot of, ears and and hearts and things to to get things going and keep things moving. But we keep pounding on because, you know, I think it's as good a thing to do as any really, right now. And I I you know, the history of the computer
[01:35:22] Patrick:
is is tied to the music industry, and these recording devices ended up becoming the inspiration for things like hard disks that we use for, you know, memory now. And it's, interesting to me the whole lawsuit that was going on for years. I don't know whatever became of it, but the Beatles who were part of the whole Apple, you know, the Apple Music versus Apple Computers that Steve Jobs founded. That whole thing, that transition, like, where did he get the idea for Apple and all this kind of thing. I think there was, you know, these behind the scenes people negotiating these things all along. Yep.
[01:36:02] Paul English:
The Beatles are so weird, though. Aren't they?
[01:36:05] Patrick:
But the history of the recording I'm a stock stand. Studio. Yeah. Well, Tavistock, all of this stuff. Like, we all Tavistock. You're right? The shell shocked troops and all that sort of thing. It was all tied to the warfare. You know? For instance, the Peerless Quartet. Maleficus Scott and I and Gary Reese had a had a show where we went in through the history of music, recorded music, and we did a a show just on protest songs, anti war protest songs, either anti war or pro war type type songs. Yep. And the Peerless Quartet, Maleficos, played a tune from them that he thought was anti war.
But it turns out the Peerless Quartet later, you know, a a couple years later, were churning out music with people like Enrico Caruso and all these other characters of doing the same songs. Like, there's the song over there, like, over there.
[01:37:02] Paul English:
Yes.
[01:37:03] Patrick:
We all sang it. That was a song to get people motivated to go to war, And they were using it as a way to go to war, but he had played a song where, you know, previous to that, they were against the war. Like, it was the mother's prayer to keep her son out of the war. And it's, you know, a lot of these we're talking about Trump. Right? And and he's, you know, you got warmongers, and then you got these people, these politicians that run as anti war mongers, but then they become warmongers. It's like, oh, we fooled you all along. We were warmonger. We were gonna you know? It's like Wilson Wilson was against the war before he was for the war, same with Roosevelt.
And I'm sure probably Churchill, where they're telling people, vote for me, and I'll prevent the war from happening. And then they get in the power, and then it's like, oh, no. Wait. We can't prevent it. We gotta go to war now. And and and they motivate people to to to do that.
[01:38:01] Paul Biener:
And They sold out, the rat bastards. Yeah. Exactly.
[01:38:04] Paul English:
Yep.
[01:38:06] Eric:
But it Can Go ahead. Sorry. I didn't mean to cut in. No. I was gonna say is, Woody Pete, you know, I was talking about Clacton earlier. He said, very good point. Wasn't it Clacton, Olsey, where they decided they would shove the pipe if The UK needed an enema?
[01:38:24] Paul English:
I think he's right. By Jove, I think he's right. Yeah. You know? Yeah. Yes. Yes. Yes. It's,
[01:38:30] Eric:
yeah. Well, with with Clacton, it's the sort of place that if you want money, depression, it's the place to go. Sorry. It's quite important to me. Today. Sure. Yes.
[01:38:43] Paul English:
I mean, I think just going back to this Beatles thing, it's just that it's completely, I don't want to sit on the Beatles at all, but, I think there's some kind of classical music analyst and, of course, this may go somewhere to explaining why people would think that an awful lot of people were involved in writing all their songs. Don't know about that. It's still oh, they had certain influences but the the variety apparently in their music is equal to that of Mozart, I believe. And I don't know quite what that means. Right. But it's it's huge and it is actually irrespective of what you might think about them. I mean, I don't really sit around and listen to to Beatles stuff. It's a very straight the the further you get away from it, the older it kinda looks, the whole thing.
You know, the way all the crowds were generated in The States and everything, you feel that there's something really going on there a bit like, you know, that place in America where the yeah. Yeah. There's just got
[01:39:41] Patrick:
It's a science. And, like, I I highly recommend you read the book by Fred Gaisberg called The Music Go Round because he he worked when he was 17, he worked for Thomas Edison, learned the trade secrets. Yeah. And then he went and worked with Emil Berliner who invented the flat disc. Right. And then they flew him around the world. He went to London and started Abbey Road Studios. And this was, like, in the 1900 like, nineteen o five, somewhere around there. Wow. And then he he stayed there. He well, he went to all over the country. He went to Hamburg. They set up another recording operation making discs in Hamburg, Germany.
And then he spent most of his time in London at Abbey Road, and he saw from the wax cylinder to his the invention he helped create, which was the the flat disc, 78 RPM shellac, all the way to the 45 RPM vinyl disc in 1949. And he was there for all of it. And it was completely, you know, there's a overlap between the government, the military, the music industry, all of that that he, you know, was part of. Like, I was telling you before about the trench warfare where he would go into the trenches Yep. It was him. And take the captured soldiers. Yeah. It was him because they had the technical know how to do that. It's like any of the stuff. It's the technical know how that gets people going. Like, I'm reading the the Dresden book about the radar that they would use in the airplanes to see where they're going at night Yes. To show them where to bomb.
It's that kind of stuff that gives them a competitive edge in warfare that allows them to do what they do. Mhmm. But the the problem is they're not matching it with morality, and that's where we need to, you know, come to a consensus because that this idea that you can just area bomb a place like Gaza and then say, okay. Too bad for you that live there, but we're gonna put our casinos up, and there's nothing you can do about it.
[01:41:51] Paul English:
You know? Well, I mean, the whole of the twentieth century is is that loss or not that, you know, not that warfare is fun. That's not what I'm saying. But there were still elements, I think, of chivalry and decency even in the first World War. But the first World War obviously brutalized all the Even in the Second World War, reading the World War. World War is when it completely you know, the idea of bombing civilians is began there. Right. But not amongst all everybody though. That's the thing. The the you have leaders that were doing that kind of stuff. Churchill was quite keen on it. He was quite keen on it. He quite liked it a lot, did Winston. He loved it.
And, If I may. Yes. You may.
[01:42:30] Paul Biener:
They almost have to carpet bomb Gaza and rebuild it because they have to find a place to put all the displaced people from the homes they destroyed in California. They almost have to.
[01:42:45] Paul English:
Mhmm. You think there's gonna be a bit of a is there gonna be a star trek? Literally, all the stars are gonna trek on over to, to Gaza, and they'll be okay living there, will they? And in and in five and ten years' time, we'll see YouTube videos of my apartment in Gaza and everywhere, and it'll be just given this veneer of fantasticness. And Well, maybe they'll move Hollywood from Hollywood to Gaza.
[01:43:07] Paul Biener:
Yeah. But Tom Hanks is not a Tom Hanks is not welcome there because he had a private, fire brigade that saved his house. He he doesn't need property over there. Right. And he was neighbors with Spielberg.
[01:43:20] Patrick:
I get it. Yeah. Yeah.
[01:43:22] Paul Biener:
Right. None of his neighbor's houses survived.
[01:43:27] Patrick:
Did did they have blue roofs?
[01:43:30] Paul English:
Remember that in Malibu? Have you noticed, though, just how fast that's gone down the memory hole? What's that? The blue roof thing? No. The fires. Yeah. The whole roof. Oh, the fires. Yeah. The whole fire thing. Onto that? Just gone. It was the same with the Maui thing. There's these real if we I'm I'm thinking of keeping a list and then every three to six months just reading out back to us. We'll all be surprised. I am when I look at it. How fast you can't hold on to what these major things are apparently going on, you know, because I'm beginning to hit the point maybe the bamboozling has just completely worked. There's such a glut of information now. I I saw I think, David, gee on Telegram said he can't keep up. You're not alone. I can't.
I don't think anybody can. It's it's gone sort of ballistic, the amount the volume of things. I know much of it is repetition, but the the medium has got such a certainly Telegram and these other has got it transmits a sense of urgency about it. And I'm going, I need to stop this now, you know. It's why I'm picking up more and more books again to re familiarize myself with the space that you're in when you're doing long form reading. It's actually better in many ways. I mean, I think a mix of the two is probably unavoidable to be quite honest. But, there is a bombardment. You don't really realize it's going on because you're getting all these little hits. These are what's it called? That stuff that comes up in your brain. I don't know. I can't think of the word right now, but you're getting these hits. The thing that the blue light gives you, you know, it's giving you a little that little reward factor all the time and this has become a kind of an addiction.
And it means it's probably easier for them now to get us to send things down the memory hole because we just can't hang on to it all. I'd you know, maybe this is what they'll sell the idea of brain chips on. Can't remember things? Get this. It's got 800,000,000,000,000 terabytes of storage and you can instantaneously retrieve it through your brain chip interface with your hard drive. You never need to forget anything ever again.
[01:45:26] Patrick:
Right. Well, that's the AI, the archival intelligence. Yeah. You're going back to the archives in a quick manner. In a way, you couldn't do it on, you know, looking through books. But at the same time, books are so important because that's where all the knowledge of human existence is. And you have to read it slowly and and carefully. And it's not just, like, scrolling through TikTok videos
[01:45:50] Paul English:
or any of this other stuff. Yeah. Well YouTube videos. YouTube videos. Yeah. Shorts. Oh, those shots, they're just they're they're toxic, aren't they? They're like speed or something. I'm not that I'm taking speed, but they're just, you've got to I lost thirty five minutes today. I went, what are you doing? I I had to do something, and I caught one. I don't know what it was about. It's quite it's about marketing. I like that because there's another one. Then I start watching one about a truck trying to get across a river. It was six minutes long. It just looked impossible. Why am I telling you this? Do you see what I mean? It invaded my head. I'm going, what use is this? Afterwards, I'm trying to shake myself out of it, but it's tricky. It is suddenly, you just go, oh, look at that. That's so funny.
[01:46:28] Paul Biener:
If I could if I could jump in, I need I need to make a public service announcement. The YouTube YouTube videos, there is an autoplay. Mhmm. Always turn that off. Turn it off. Save your settings. Don't let YouTube decide what you're gonna watch because, God help you, if you fall asleep and YouTube serves up dozens and dozens and dozens of things to contaminate your subconscious while you're blissfully Use Brave Browser.
[01:46:59] Patrick:
Use Brave Browser so you don't have to play ads in front of that because that's another thing that's a soul sucking type of Yeah. Brave's pretty good at that. It's the of all the ones, I use Opera and Brave.
[01:47:11] Paul English:
And, Brave, I like a lot. It's a bit more resource hungry, but it's still jolly good jolly good. And
[01:47:19] Paul Biener:
set your if you've got a smart TV, god, I hope everybody does, that has a zoom function. You can have either widescreen, you can have normal composite 16 by nine, you can have four by three, or you can have zoom or stretch or whatever. Set your screen display to Zoom, especially if you watch the nightly news. Because that black border around the little box inside there with all the little blue wavy things going back and forth constantly, that's just there to hypnotize you. Use the zoom function on your TV, and that stuff gets exploded right off the edge of the screen. You might lose a little bit of the ticker at the bottom of the screen, but what you gain in neurons is well worth it.
I love my neurons. Do you like yours? Aren't they great? I love my neurons. I love them. I'm I'm actually in a love affair with my neurons. They're fantastic.
[01:48:23] Paul English:
They're absolutely fantastic. Of course, maybe this is the whole purpose to create a demand for Geoffrey Hinton's, you know, microscopic, neuron replacement bits, with AI and everything. Cool. It's great. Then you can just watch TV forever and know nothing but think you know everything. Great.
[01:48:41] Patrick:
In fact, they've thought of everything. In your head come out of nowhere.
[01:48:46] Paul Biener:
The voices in my head don't like you. I want that on a t shirt.
[01:48:53] Paul English:
I like that. That's a good one. That's really cool. Yeah. We like that. You know how I have I'm just looking at the time here. We got about ten or eleven minutes to go to the end of the show on WBN. We will, of course, be running on for a little while afterwards. Hey, Paul. Yeah. You
[01:49:08] Patrick:
I have a request for for some, outro. It it's not really music unless you have something already in mind. It's, George Carlin from back in the sixties, and it's clean. It's not foul language. Alright. It's centered in your telegram. Cool. What is it? A baseball and football routine? Well, no. No. It you you were singing a song or, quoting a song about leaving your heart somewhere. Yeah. He does a little a little bit of on sea. Yeah. Yeah. Clacton on sea.
[01:49:38] Paul English:
We'll run that right at the end of the show, Patrick, because I've got something just for the top of the hour as we go out. Yeah. Yeah. That's cool. But that's great. I'm glad you offered that up. That's really good. But, you know, I I think I've got enough time to get this in, really. You know, we've been re I've been reading from this book about foreigners. And, I have. And, because Eric brought them up and actually provided some praise for them, I think maybe we should do the French, actually. We could do the French now. It's about five pages. I think we could get this in. By the way, the tag line for this show on WBN has changed. We're no longer from the dark side of history.
So we're gonna have to get back to some of that. This is now just a very English show which, of course, is a bit rude to you chaps. Isn't it really? It should be a very transact but me and Eric are trying to hold our end up, aren't we Eric? So we're trying to keep it going and and all that kind of stuff. But how about the French? Right. This is from this book. So if you're sitting comfortably here at the end of the WBN section of the show, here's the French as described by these two fine English ladies in 1935. The French.
Tremendous advances have been made since the days when all that was known about the French was that they are a polite people fond of dancing and light wine. Indeed, there are few people about whom we know more. We have even unlearned a little. For instance, it is no longer believed that the French eat snails and frogs daily. Less certainty is felt about revising the opinion that Frenchmen kiss each other on the boulevards whenever two male acquaintances meet. Of course, it is not the nonstop phenomenon it was once known to be, but the fact does remain that Frenchmen kiss each other in public. They do. Including, Macron and his husband. The French are very clever.
They are both intellectual and intelligent. This is, of course, most undesirable. Brains generally imply something false, unsound, and shabby, and it is well known that it is character that counts. As regards character, the French are sadly deficient. A leading piece of knowledge concerns their meanness. They are fan fanatically mean. Frenchman know each other for years without ever being asked into each other's houses for a bite to eat or for a snort to drink. It is justly remembered in their defense, however, that one of the reasons that the French are so inhospitable to foreigners is that the foyer is really too sacred to ask people to.
It is curious about the foyer because it is well known that there is no word for home in the French language, and that this proves that there are no homes in France. The importance, the inviolability of the foyer or hearth is equally acknowledged. In its honor, divorce is eschewed, and households are kept together at any cost. Family life is a sort of religion. A young married couple and their children always live in the same house as the parents and the grandparents of one of them. Young married couples in France never have any children. A man is ruled in many ways by his mother till the day of her death. He may deceive but never defy her. There are no love marriages in France. All the French, both men and women, are by temperament wholly and stupendously immoral.
For all their rigid meanness and economy, there is not a Frenchman in Paris, at any rate, who does not keep both a mistress and a wife. Although the immorality of the French is a byword, the many immoral entertainments of Paris, a sink of rather laughable iniquity, are all on account of the tourists. Montmartre and Montparnasse are the chief American colonies. It is allowed by all but with special reference to the intelligentsia that the French attitude to sex is sane, balanced, and eminently sensible. This is an admirable thing because nobody, except of course the English, ought to be quite as inhibited or as romantic as the English are. It should, however, be noted in reference to French sanity concerning and mastery of sex problems that as it is well known that the French think of nothing but sex, it would be unfortunate if their reflections had brought them nowhere.
The chief French theaters are the Folies Bergere and the Comedie Francais and French actresses always act in the nude. The French are artistic and take an interest in every branch of creative art. This interest is cold and lacking in poetry, but very excitable and liable to lead to pandemonium. There is always pandemonium in parliament where people boo and scream continually and slap each other's faces. In France, no gentlemen go in for government, but they get worked up about it being so corrupt and strangely full of scandals. French crime falls into two classes, scandals, bad, and crime passionnel, good.
Only crime passionnel ever come before a jury, and consequently, no jury will ever convict convict in France. Scandals all spring from the staggering corruption of members and employees of the government. They are never unraveled, but someone is sent to Devil's Island, and on coming back seventeen years later is found to be innocent. Devil's Island is a convict settlement with malefactors and where malefactors endure a life so savagely insalubrious that only the chain gang competes with it. See America. I remember that. A notable French institution which operates in Algeria and Morocco, see Africa, is the foreign legion.
There are no Frenchmen in it under the rank of sergeant. The private suffer well nigh insupportable brutality and rigor, and they are recruited entirely from the scum of the earth and from dissolute English noblemen screening the family honor behind the name of Smith. Most Frenchmen are Parisians, not nice, and a few live in other French towns and are bourgeois and not nice either. Nothing is known about other French towns. In the country live the peasants who, unlike the rest of the French, are rather fine fellows in a grim, compressed, hardworking, economical way. There is also a grand and ancient aristocracy in France which is very wonderful and inaccessible and which we all respect. The French, and here we strike a welcome note, are brave. They are patriotic. They are immensely sentimental over two things, la patrie and la maman.
The French are an intensely logical, reasonable, precise nation, utterly unsentimental. There is something cold, ruthless, and cruel about this logical temperament. The French are excitable to the verge of hysteria. The French have no color prejudice whatever. They just cannot conceive how anybody could have. In actual fact, you do not see French ladies and gentlemen married to Negroes, and there has never been a black president or premier, but this is merely a sustained matter of hazard. Food in France is excellent. It is the only country where you can get a decent omelette or really good coffee. Coffee in France is bad because it is made with chicory. The English and the French do not get on well together. The graspiness and want of imaginative sympathy in France makes half the trouble in Europe. The French are fond of anything new. The French are witty. The French have only two jokes. The French, of course, have no sense of humor.
So there you go. That was more of a straight one. It was there wasn't too much witticisms in that, was there? You see, I'm reading these blind. But there you go. That's the French summarized in 1935. Anyway, so there we go. Deathly silence. I wish you'd not read that.
[01:56:49] Paul Biener:
Well,
[01:56:50] Paul English:
that was interesting. It was. It's interesting, isn't it? It is. It's interesting. There you go. We don't we don't want you to think that we're not gonna bring you a bit of culture in a show every now and again. So there you go. We did. Next week, the Swiss. The Swiss. Okay. The Swiss next week. The Swiss yodel. So that's the opening sentence and there we go. So we're talking we'll be talking about yodeling next week which of course is a fine skill and maybe we can get some yodeling tracks lined up for that. I think we could. In fact, Patrick, I'm sure you could help out with that one. That would be pretty good. Okay. We're at the end of our show here. We're gonna play out with a song and we'll be back after this.
This is well known Tim Hawkins the Government Can. Quite a nice tune from, I don't know, ten or fifteen years ago, I guess. It been, bumbling around a little while. I like this. It's fun. It's playful. And, of course, the lyrics are reasonably accurate given current times. Here we go. We'll be back with you all after the break. We'll be back on WBN same time next week. See you all then. Have a cracking time and we carry on on Rumble and elsewhere after this song.
[01:58:00] Unknown:
Hey, everybody. Gather around. I'm here to give you anything you like. You want free college, energy, mortgages, whatever you like. You have come to the right place. Why? I'll tell you why. Who can take your money? Who can take your money? With a twinkle in their eye. A twinkle in their eye. Take it all away and give it to some other guy. The government. The government can. The government can. And who can tax the sunrise? Who
[01:58:37] Unknown:
can tax the sunrise? Who can tax the trees? Who can tax the
[01:58:39] Unknown:
trees? Let your run a business and collect up all the fees. The government needs. The government
[01:58:49] Unknown:
The government can. And the government
[01:58:52] Unknown:
can. Because they mix it up, relax, and make it all taste good. The government takes everything we make to pay for all of their solutions. Health care, climate change, pollution. Throw away the constitution. And who can give a bailout? Tell us to behave. Tell us to behave. And make the founding fathers roll over in the grave. The government's. The government. Oh, the government can. And the government
[02:00:42] Paul English:
Yeah. That's the cheers of everyone. Fantastic. Isn't that a cheery little song, dad? That's that's very cheery. We all cheered up, lads. You like that?
[02:00:53] Patrick:
Makes me wanna pay my taxes.
[02:00:55] Paul English:
Me too. I've just paid them while the song was on. I was that excited and happy. It was great. Maybe that'd be quite good at my funeral. I don't know. What do you think? It could be quite good. Come on, everybody. Don't the Irish do wakes well? The Irish do wakes so well. We we used to have a sort of a semi tradition of that over here, but the Irish are world champions when it comes to that stuff. Brilliant. Anyway, they I don't know why I thought about that. I just thought it was so incongruous, you know. But, yes, love lovely little song.
[02:01:22] Paul Biener:
During that song, I wrote out a I stroked out a check for my taxes, but I paid them etherically because after I wrote the check, I burned it.
[02:01:32] Paul English:
Oh, yeah. Well, I'm looking forward to paying more council tax this year. Are you, Eric? You're looking forward to that?
[02:01:38] Patrick:
I think Eric disappeared.
[02:01:40] Paul English:
No. Has he had enough? Did he? Has he liked it? He's just disappeared. No. He's still there. He's just on mute. Maybe he's had to maybe he was overtaken by the happiness of the song and,
[02:01:51] Patrick:
you know, he's just had to go and, I think you have to add him to our to our group here. What is he? He's in the waiting room. Is he again?
[02:01:58] Paul English:
Oh, yeah. Oh, he's back. Eric. Are you back? Hello. I don't know what happened. I was sitting there. One minute I was on and the next minute I was off. You went to the toilet. Come on. Admit it. We know what's going on. You just thought I'm not listening to that. You just lagged it for the loo. It happens all the time. You know?
[02:02:15] Eric:
Skip to the loo. Here we go. Yeah. But, that was quite a nice jolly song. Yes. I felt like paying my taxes and and on the way, you know. It's so nice knowing that those nice, usury scammers were getting or or parasites are getting that more of our money, isn't it? Just Just think of how much money they're getting. It must be a phenomenal amount. Absolutely phenomenal. I mean I know. You know what I mean? So much money, you can pay anybody off to do anything.
[02:02:44] Paul English:
There used to be a joke, you know, along the lines of, I would gladly sell my house and all my possessions to help out with this that the other, but I don't think we'll need to do that because it looks though they're just gonna take them anyway if we don't stop them in some way. Everything just it's not just creep creep creep, it's grab grab grab. So, you know, council tax, of course, is a really hellishly irritating tax. I suppose when you take them all into account, you know, going back to what I was saying maybe in hour one about this mythical thousand pounds that you've just earned. I wonder what you actually get after all the taxes and everything has gone from you. When you look at everything out of Yeah. You know, the average income for an average family over here, it's it can't be much. And, of course, this they've got this thing over here now called u universal basic income.
I don't know if you got anything. Have you got that in The States? Well, yeah. The the acronym is UBI. That's right. UBI. UBI, UBI, UBI. And they want everybody on it. And, of course, it's just a control thing. Are you gonna get this money and do stuff? No. You're not. And, of course, the the real kicker with all of this will be the, the digital cryptocurrency system, which will literally What?
[02:03:51] Patrick:
Wouldn't you say that when we had COVID, I don't know about over there, but here, for the first time ever, we got a check for being locked down. And that was being touted as the the basis of for the first, payment for UBI, universal basic income. Yeah. They were just Trump did it, and then Biden did it shortly after he he got in the off to office. We got another check, and it was a lesser amount, but, it was still a check on all of it. Did it, it was 1,200. When Biden did it, it was 6. Yep.
[02:04:25] Paul Biener:
And and some countries, while they were locked down, the governments actually did pay a monthly basic income.
[02:04:34] Patrick:
Did they? Where where was that? I never got that. I thought that well, well, it certainly wasn't here. Well, didn't the founding fathers say give me liberty or give me $1,200?
[02:04:45] Paul English:
Wasn't that a No. They say give me liberty. They did say that. They did say that. But they did Give me liberty or give me $1,200. Yeah. They did. I'm sure What
[02:04:54] Paul Biener:
what they didn't tell us is what liberty is. Liberty and freedom. You know, you ask somebody, are are liberty and freedom the same? No. They're not. Freedom is the freedom to do that whatever you wish to do as long as it doesn't harm somebody else. Liberty, like, sailor on liberty, is permission to act as though you're free within the limitations of the, of your commanding officer, but you must be back aboard at o six hundred Monday because we're shipping out with or without you. Liberty is permission to act as though you're free. It is not freedom. Well, the way I always was taught it in catechism
[02:05:42] Patrick:
was Christian liberty is the freedom to to, tell the truth, Freedom to acknowledge the truth. And that real real freedom you it like, free speech, for instance, is the freedom to tell the truth openly and publicly. But lies have no place in the public square, so you don't have the freedom to tell a lie or to bear false witness against your neighbor. So it's it goes into morals there too. It's like with the freedom, you have responsibility. You can't you can't you know, it's just like driving a car. Great. You can drive a car or you can even drive a tank for that matter, but the moment you start running people over in the street, then it it's not freedom.
[02:06:27] Paul English:
Well, speaking about free speech speaking about free speech, a clip for you. Okay? This is, an American lady making a comment about the communications condition here in The UK, I think.
[02:06:43] Unknown:
There is no doubt in my mind this would have been the fate of The United States if something had gone differently last week. The UK is now saying they are going to imprison any citizen that views what the government deems to be far right propaganda online for up to fifteen years. I have so many questions about this, not the least of which is, can you even control what comes up in your algorithm? If something just happens to pop up in your feed, are you doomed to spend more than a dozen years in federal prison? Right to jail, right away. Who gets to determine what far right propaganda is? Because let's be honest, by modern UK standards, every single thing JK Rowling posts on x is probably considered far right propaganda.
And is enforcement anything like what we've already seen regarding social media You guys okay across the pond? Blink twice if you need help. You guys okay across the pond? Blink twice if you need help.
[02:07:52] Paul English:
Well, I'm blinking lots. Now I think that's from a little while ago, but former. Yeah. Isn't it cool? Eric, are you ready for fifteen years in in the Nick?
[02:08:02] Eric:
Well, it might be quite nice, actually, because they reckon that when the people were sent to the gulag, they they were with, other people. They had free speech there because, they they couldn't get much worse. So they're speaking freely about things. But, it's a bit like the old, I think you've always got to follow the money trail. And there's apparently there's a joke in World War two. I wasn't alive at those days, but apparently, there's a joke. It said, question, where is the capital of Great Britain? Answer, Rothschilds Bank.
It's true. Hey. You've just be careful because the Oh. Oh. Hang on. Hang on. Hang on. Hang on. I'm sorry. I I I'll I'll see you. I I think oh. You never know. That that might be an off coming coming Oh. You never know. Evening, Osterholm. To scare people. Yes. But did you know that the police now are a company, a profit making company? That's why you've got all these speeding fines and things like that. And that's why they're not there to solve crime because it's costly solve solving crime. It's far more easier. They could knock on people's doors and arrest them for hate speech. They used to go and solve a crime. Well, I think Gaza is a perfect example of the police state Yeah. Where it's the applies to me, but not to the type of
[02:09:13] Paul Biener:
mentality where it's like Well, here, they used to have police cars called cruisers, and they had on them to protect and serve. They took to protect and serve off the cars, and they started labeling labeling them police, as in policy enforcement. Anyway, what I was getting to a moment ago is my karma ran over your dogma. Sorry.
[02:09:39] Paul English:
Paul, you can come again. That one. Yeah. We like that one. Over your dogma. Yeah. We like that. That.
[02:09:45] Eric:
Oh, we obviously do like that one. Yeah.
[02:09:48] Paul English:
What do we call that? A witticism? I quite like that. I quite like that witticism. That's very good. Yes. Yeah. In in the chat here and shout out to everybody in Rumble chat. It's quite lively as usual. I've just where's it gone now? Oh, apparently, XO writes, apparently, we have to report on pub conversations now also. Well, I didn't know that any were going on apart from, do you see the game last night, mate? Yeah. It was terrible. All that kind of stuff. Three pints of lager, please. Isn't that what goes on? Or am I being slightly too cynical?
[02:10:21] Patrick:
So maybe I'll just on here too. We would call them sports bars or just regular bar. Yeah. That's and same same deal. Sports.
[02:10:31] Paul English:
Oh, and, Maleficus is in the chat. Hi, Maleficus. Good to see you. And also, aunt Sally's managed to either get out of the bath or is about to get into the bath. I know there's always a lot of sort of bath things going with you, aunt Sally, on a Thursday evening. Why not? Everybody needs to be clean. After last week's talk. Yeah. It might be a bubble bath. Oh, no. You've just given an intro to Eric Steady, Patrick. Watch it. So Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh, no. I can't I do know a dirty joke about a girl getting out of a bath. No. Really? You knowing dirty jokes. I'm shocked. Really. Well, it's quite clean actually because no. I can't no. Sorry. It really isn't dirty. I can't say it. It's quite clean. She's in the bath. It's it's quite clean. She's in the bath. So how could it be a dirty joke? Alright. Alright. I'll I'll clean it up a little bit. What's the difference? No. I can't say it. No. Sorry. No. Don't say it. I'll tell you what, Eric. We'll have an executive committee meeting after the show, and we'll try and clear it through the sensors, through the internal Fockem Hall sensor board to see whether we can get you to say this on air or not. Because if it's if it's even got a hint of right wing, you're looking at eighteen months at least for jokes now. Jokes are gonna be out, aren't they? It's
[02:11:39] Eric:
not that. It's just that I'll tell you off air and, we'll see if it's alright for another week because you might get a lot of people chewing it off after it. I'm laughing. I've heard it before myself. You know?
[02:11:53] Paul English:
Maleficus writes, by the way, that they make £6,000,000 a day out of speeding fines in The UK. Yeah. Mhmm. Yeah. I wonder why So everybody stop driving so fast. Will you stop it, you maniacs, getting to places on time and things and going 32 miles an hour in a 30 mile an hour zone? What do you expect, you lawbreakers? God, you're absolute reprobates. Disgusting. Of course, he's very good at sums as well, aren't you, Millifigas? That's 18,000,000,000 a year. Isn't it just? I wonder what we could do with that. We could probably set up a good radio station with that. What do you think? Why can't they give it to us? Why don't can't we win the 18,000,000,000 speeding fine lottery every year? Oh, well.
There we go. Yeah. Brilliant stuff. Amazing.
[02:12:36] Eric:
Yeah. Do you know it's just that's police around. I used to see play Bobby's on the beat. You don't see any police on the beat at all now, do you? No. Nope. Have you no.
[02:12:46] Paul Biener:
No. Because it's because it's too dangerous for them to be out and about without their bulletproof cars.
[02:12:53] Patrick:
Yeah. Well, they have a they also have a lot of lady
[02:12:56] Paul English:
police over here, and they can't run. There shouldn't be frontline policemen just like they shouldn't be in the military doing these things. It's not good. There's a role for everybody, but this is DEI on steroids, which of course really is just cultural Marxism, isn't it? We all we all know that kind of stuff. Also, I'd like to make a little technical announcement now. We used to have this a year or so back but I seem to have it working anyway. If any of you want to use your telephones remember those? In fact, you probably all got one. Mobile phone, I guess. Maybe some people are listening on. You can call into the show. We've got another sort of sound studio here for taking in telephone calls And the numbers are actually running across the rumble screen and the YouTube screen and the DLive screen as I yak right now. And, so there's a US number and there's a UK telephone number. They should be just local calls or probably included in your plan. I sound like a bloody advert for a mobile phone company.
And there's a studio access code that you have to do 543-2323. Isn't that a lovely number? But there you go. We've got it up on the screen. You'll come in muted if you want to say anything. And it'd be great if you did and if you don't, I understand. But you can call in right now and bend our air about anything you like including bath time, old records from 1921, anything you like that we've touched upon or even something else. Speeding tickets. Speeding tickets are quite good. Maybe you've just got one today. You could call and tell us how much it was for. Anything like that. It's all it's all grist for the mill and we've got a knot we've got too much grist and not enough mill around here. So, there you go. Anyway, it's running across the screen. Do I announce this? Or If you're in if you're in let me do it try and do this. I've got to do it as a I've got to get a jingle for this. If you're in The UK, dial 03010616.
That's 03010616. If you're in The United States dial area code (712) 832-8330. That's (712) 832-8330, and when you get through you enter the studio access code 543-2323 and you'll come through to the studio. You'll be muted when you arrive, so don't worry we won't hear you straight away and you can dive out again. But go on give it a go if you feel like it. We'll see what it's like. And we'll we'll try if if this kind of works and we get some pick up of speed with this, we'll probably start lobbying this in in the third hour. And if we find that the calls are extremely dignified and decent, we might even do it earlier in the show at some point so that you can go out to all the much larger listening based on on the WBN part of the show, which is the first two hours. So there we go. Telephones.
[02:15:34] Eric:
How about that? And, don't don't ask don't ask people to, if they know the answer to the constipate your bigger joke and a girl coming out the bath joke. Of course, they're they're they're expensive, you see. So I'd be mentioning them at all, you say. I've heard the bigger joke before. Okay. You like that one? Yeah. Yeah. You like that one? Oh, actually, I can't I can't do the, girl getting out of the bar. Okay? Go on Monday. So I know that after me the Monday after. Why can't you do it on a Monday?
[02:16:02] Paul English:
What's wrong with Mondays? Well well, there's a young lady coming on on Monday, and I think Oh, I see. A bit blush. She might blush, you see. So Oh, we don't want that. Yeah. We don't want people blushing. Monday was always bath night for me when I was a kid. But actually, it wasn't a bath. Do you remember when you were really young? I used to get washed in the sink in the kitchen. Did you ever do that? Totally not. Yeah. I caught washing the sink. Those were the days. Stood up in the kitchen, buck naked as the day you were born. It was fantastic. Yeah. Come on. Get in that sink. Oh, don't worry. I think he's a bit too big for the sink now. I am. Can I have a bath?
So a lot of fun. Yeah. Cool.
[02:16:39] Patrick:
So I I asked deep seek oh, go ahead. Go ahead, Paul.
[02:16:43] Paul Biener:
You were in the sink because mama was a little too old to be bending over the tub. I
[02:16:51] Eric:
Tell me if we had washing powder, which is a little bit off topic. Do you remember washing powder that they don't have anymore in this country called Omo?
[02:17:02] Paul English:
Yes. O m o. Omo. Oh, yeah. That's the name of it. O m o.
[02:17:07] Eric:
Yeah. But what what what happened with me? We we used to have a song one called Flash. Remember Flash? There's a what's your name called Flash? Well, the floor cleaner. Straightened. Yeah. That was it. Floor cleaner. Well, I stood up once, and my neighbor took a look at me. So I grabbed the flash and shot, put it in front of me. Sorry. Terrible joke, isn't it?
[02:17:27] Patrick:
That that don't worry. Good one. No. Fums down for that one. Well well, hey. Get get this one, Eric. When I was in Russia, they had toilet paper there. Brand name was a s s o l e.
[02:17:43] Paul English:
I'm not joking you.
[02:17:45] Paul Biener:
Oh, I like
[02:17:47] Eric:
those Russians. Drink in France called pishit, p p p I s c h I t, Pishit.
[02:17:56] Paul Biener:
Hey. That's better than the Texan toilet paper that they had to take off the market because it wasn't about to take no crap off of nobody.
[02:18:06] Eric:
What about the Star Trek toilet paper? He gets all the Klingons out.
[02:18:12] Paul English:
Well well, everybody, you've been listening to Paul English Live, and now we've moved to the potty humor section of the show. It's only a matter of time before it devolves to potty humor. You know? I was trying to do something sensible. We're supposed to be grown ups around here. By the way, dear listeners, if you've got a potty joke that you want to tell live on air and you think you might be able to call in on this number, this is the potty joke line. So there we go. Yeah.
[02:18:39] Eric:
Well, it's not more than wise. They always used to end their show with a gag that they never caught to the punchline. Do you remember that? And it was two old men sitting in deck chairs. One says the other one, and he says, you can't say that. Bong. The show ended. Every week, it was like that.
[02:18:55] Paul English:
Never got to the punchline. I have. Yeah.
[02:18:58] Eric:
I happen to know the punchline because my uncles were comedians, and they knew the punchline. They knew it. Yeah. They do, actually. Yeah. I do know the punchline of that one. That's a bit bold, actually. Two old men sitting in deck chairs. One says the other one's nicer, isn't it? And the other one says, yeah. I think I'll get mine out.
[02:19:21] Paul English:
Anyway, where were where were we before we were so rudely interrupted by our own rudeness? I I just wanted to say this to Maleficus because You're quite on the mic, Patrick, just to let you know something. Let me back off. Let me back up. Yeah. Just a little. Sorry about that.
[02:19:36] Patrick:
It's okay. Okay. So, I I asked, DeepSeek how much money per day is collected in America for speeding tickets. And it says, well, an exact amount is amount isn't known, but here's an estimate. It's in billions of dollars annually. So according to this, in 2020, '6 billion per year nationwide, which amounts to about 16,400,000.0 per day
[02:20:01] Paul English:
dollars. Bloody hell.
[02:20:05] Paul Biener:
And that's how they're funding your local government.
[02:20:09] Patrick:
Yeah. Anyway,
[02:20:13] Paul English:
that's the answer to that. Warren writes here just to swiftly change things. He says, Great Britain is not a place or area. It is a nonce, single use expression, created when King James the sixth of Scotland became King James the first of England in sixteen hundred and three AD. But I'm always saying Great Britain, Warren. You're gonna have to take it up with me and correct me and tell me why I shouldn't say that. Of course, when are we Britons or is it Great Britain or whatever? By the way, I came across something here today. Actually, I mentioned I think pre show to you. Here we're going from the potty over to the serious history stuff again. I stumble across something, today called, what is it called? I've got it here.
The Greatest Things England Has Done for You and, yes, we're proud. So I'm sorry that it sounds like that but it's it's not done so much tongue in cheek. I just, it only went up on February. There's about seven or 8,000 views of this thing and I'm not playing the whole thing. It's twenty five minutes long. But, I'm I've got a book on the way tomorrow about the Crusades, which I'm very interested in in looking into because there is a perception about the Crusades that basically, Pope Urban the second just went: Right, lads. Get down there and have a fight and go kick 10 bells out of him. As if there was no real reason for it. And, this little presentation is about, the English. I'm sorry everybody but it is and this is, of course, now I'm just performing up to the WBN new subtext for the show, which is a very English show, which of course it is.
So if there's a few slightly offensive things in there, although he does it really well, but I just wanted to play these couple of minutes about his thing about the Crusades, and we could maybe talk about that because we're actually in one right now, as you well know. I'm just moving back out of humor, back into a bit of seriousness before we say goodbye for the evening. Listen to this. Let me see. I've got some volume on it. We'll just put it up. See what you think about this. Oh, I know why you can't hear it because I've muted the, I've muted the tab. Hang on. I'm quite good at this, aren't I? Just a minute. Here we go. Let's just wind it back just to the beginning again of this little section. I think here's your and decided to pillage the Middle East for fun.
[02:22:28] Unknown:
What they never mentioned is that the Crusades were not unprovoked. They were a response. For over four hundred years Islamic armies have been expanding relentlessly, swallowing up North Africa, Spain, and much of the Byzantine Empire. Christian lands fell one after another with their populations forced to convert, pay heavy taxes, or worse. Jerusalem, the holiest city in Christendom, had been under Muslim rule since June, and Christian pilgrims were regularly robbed, kidnapped, or murdered. So in October, Pope Urban the second finally had enough. He called for a crusade, a counter attack, and Europe answered the call. As historian Thomas f Madden put it, the crusades were in every way a defensive war. They were a direct response to Muslim aggression.
While the French led the first few crusades as inefficiently as possible, it wasn't long before England got involved. And when we did, we did it properly. No one did it better than King Richard the Lionheart. Richard wasn't just a king, he was a force of nature. A man who spent barely six months of his reign in England because he was too busy crushing armies abroad. During the third crusade, eleven of eighty nine to November, he faced off against Saladin, one of the greatest Muslim generals in history. At the Battle of Arsuf, Richard personally led a cavalry charge so devastating that it sent Saladin's forces running.
Even when outnumbered, Richard simply refused to lose. He was so effective that Saladin began to admire him. And when Richard fell ill, Saladin sent him ice and fruit, because nothing says I respect you like a medieval fruit basket. Richard wasn't just a warrior, he was a master diplomat. At one point, while negotiating peace, he casually suggested to Saladin's brother, why don't I just marry your sister and we call it a truce? When swords didn't work, Richard was happy to settle things with a royal wedding. But the crusades weren't just about fighting, they reshaped Europe.
Crusaders brought back medicine, science, philosophy, and engineering, sparking the renaissance. Trade exploded, linking Europe to Silk Road goods, exotic spices, and new technologies. War itself evolved as European armies adopted advanced siege tactics, cavalry formations, and new battle field strategies. Of course, modern critics love to moan about Crusader brutality as if medieval warfare was some polite tea party before the Christians showed up. The reality, every
[02:25:10] Paul English:
Oh, the reality is is that YouTube has failed on me, so I'm sorry about that, but there we go. There was something else I had here as well, which was an article on a site called alt-market.us which says, do we need a final crusade to save the Western world? Oh, it's back again. Hang on just a minute. Something's back. Gosh. I'm on tight. That's that's bad. Go away. I'm gonna have to strip these things out but let me go back to before I was so rudely interrupted. Do We Need a Final Crusade to Save the Western World by Brandon Smith. Some excellent points in here and it really reinforces just that little clip there, which is that, the cruise is completely misunderstood.
I'm gonna be reading up a bit on this. I'm gonna start peppering the show with a few sort of Crusader things. But I was wondering, Patrick, what with your knowledge of the history of the Catholic church, do you know anything much about the call from Pope Urban the second with regards to any of this?
[02:26:13] Patrick:
Not exactly Pope Urban the second, but I know about Saint Francis of Assisi. He ended up going to Egypt and, trying to sue for peace with, I think it was Saladin's nephew at the time. So there were, you know, church you know, actual saints that went over there to try to bring peace and and stability rather and and pill open up pilgrims pilgrim you know, make it safe for pilgrims to go back and forth from The Holy Land back into Europe. And there were all sorts of, articles written about it. I know that, Canterbury Tales is about, travelers that had gone to to the crusades and came back, and we're telling stories of that time period. Yeah. And, I I it definitely was meant as a way to keep the trade routes open and free from piracy and people trying to force convert them into, Islam and
[02:27:16] Paul English:
whatever else was going on there. Well, of course, it's not mentioned much over here because we we have to endure this nonsense. This, what did, David Starkey just call it? This we're suffering from a noble idea. The fact that everybody can get on and it's as I've mentioned here before, it's unnecessary and it's silly and history shows us this. But in this article, here's the last few paragraphs of it because I thought they they're quite interesting. He says, make no mistake, the enemy, that is the woke lot, has been trying to build their own religious empire. The woke movement is driven by self worship and the worship of bureaucratic power. Behind the curtain, they are not secular, and they have more zealotry than any cult in recent memory.
They claim to be atheistic and progressive in their principles, yet they happily ally with third world fundamentalists that hold completely contrary beliefs. Why? Because Islam is not a threat to their ultimate aims. Christianity is. If a new crusade were to happen, it would have to start here in America. However, if we were to take up the sword as it were, we can do so knowing we are not alone. There are millions upon millions of Westerners around the world that would welcome us. There is a deep desire in our society for a return to principles, a need for purity of purpose. I see it daily.
People are lost and they need a compass. The question is who will give it to them? The Luciferian globalists, the woke cultists, the Islamic horde, or us? I like this sentiment. I know it's, probably just called out the, right wing police department or something like that. So fifteen years, here we come. But I I I noticed this as well. It's very strange. If we'd have talked about this even three or four years ago, and of course there's a worry in there as well. I've got concerns about it because, the idea of certain aspects of the way people have expressed Christian things in the past is a concern to me, and no doubt to others as well. But there is a need for a unifying banner under which we can come. It actually exists. We're just being blocked from sort of rallying to it, you know, the inhibition of speech or the censorship of speech being the most powerful weapon they've got. Because once that's out of the grasp, this thing I suspect will go like wildfire because we all know that we're sitting on it.
And on on Rhea Bow's show, this week on WBN on the Sunday, she played a clip. I was gonna play in this show, but I I won't it's from a a discussion about a book called Private Truths, Public Lies, and it's to do with the way that people are, it was looking at communist states and how everybody knows what the truth is, but the party line is you can't say it. So it builds up, as you imagine, this dysfunctional space, and we are having it built up rapidly around us here. It's very un British, not to offend you, Warren. It but it is. It's not right. It's not sound. And we're being sort of they you know, if we go back to the Trump thing earlier on the show, we're being given certain things that we all want to see, one step forward, but being pushed two steps back the next day with this nonsense and blather.
And, I think it's a salient point. I mean, I think there are there would be ways of of of getting Europe back to how it needs to be, but we're gonna have to think rather cannily about how we do it because it's gonna be impossible if we're not allowed to speak. It's gonna be very very difficult. Maybe we have to develop telepathic skills or just all go to prison and it happens from there. All that said, I'm not massively or, you know, relentlessly pessimistic about this Because the fact that these discussions and these articles, like the one I've read, and that clip, even though it buggered up, are are coming up is indicative of a hankering for this purpose. It's there and we absolutely want it back and it will I'm convinced it will come back. I'm convinced it's actually on its way back. It's just that nobody knows quite how to read it because it it's not easily recognizable. But I've got a feeling very much, certainly, you know, like I was saying from bumping into people in the street and everything, but it's on its way. And, it's it's required because I think nature is gonna give it to us. It's gonna give us that sense of purpose whether people are gonna resist it or not. I think it's on its way back. I think it's inevitable, really.
[02:31:34] Patrick:
Well
[02:31:35] Paul Biener:
Yeah. Leave us hope that we don't develop telepathy. And if we do, we don't say anything about it because thoughtcrime Mhmm. Would be the next step, and there is absolutely no way to defend against that accusation.
[02:31:53] Paul English:
No. There isn't. Well, I mean, there's there's we're almost defenseless in so many other ways at the moment. I suppose if we get those little neural chips and they'd be able to make you think things and say we know you thought this because we've got a recording of it. So you thought this and so it's off to the jolly old gulag in Barnsley for you my lad or wherever they're gonna put these things up. But, of course, me saying this stuff is actually part of the problem because I'm sort of like talking us back into that space. I do think there's a way through. I don't know exactly what it looks like, but it is about sort of igniting that fire. I've mentioned this before in every single one of us. And of course, we all have days where it's sputtering a bit, I assume, if you're anything like me. And we have other days where we do feel on fire, and we're looking for other people to build that that momentum in conversation going forward. So it's gonna be required. And coming back to that thing about parishes and local connections, that will be the places, I hope and believe, where it will start to happen again.
So, but I just wanted to point a good word for the crusaders, you see, including to myself because we get you don't realize to somebody until you start looking at these things and stand back. The degree to which we are continually bombarded with a negative view of ourselves, I know many people here on Rumble are aware of that. But even so, having a support group like this, you know, you could view it like that, a growing team, hopefully, you know, of listeners and influencers and contributors is all part of that parcel part and parcel of of of keeping this on track and seeing it grow. And I'm sure, even though we've said some rather rude things about them, the same pertains to most Frenchmen and to most Germans and the people of Scandinavia and Italy and and the like. And if we can find ways to look at one another as allies properly for the first time ever ever, maybe, other than, say, the Crusades themselves, which is a long time ago. It's a thousand years back, really.
Then we're we're back on track, but this it's gonna be a bit weird as well, I suspect, along the way.
[02:33:51] Patrick:
Mhmm. Yeah. I there's a thing that happened around the time of the crusades I remember reading about called the Children's Crusade. Have you heard of that where a bunch of children, I think it was in Germany, were convinced by this kind of, like, youthful leader who was just a child himself. And thousands, if not tens of thousands, of children went to the Middle East to help with the Crusades. Mhmm. And and ended up being enslaved. It was it's quite it was quite the thing. Right. The the the thing of it is, just like in warfare, they they use religion as a means of getting people to go to war.
Of course. Just like in World War one, World War two, they have their clergy paid off and ready to go. And, the the other ones, they blackmail or they find some way to defame them to the point where you just don't pay attention to the the people that are against the war and the clergy. So it's developing that discretion where you can see the difference. And that's kind of why people have such a negative attitude towards Christianity, and they don't see it as a solution to the problem. And then that's built up in the propaganda that comes out because they know you need institution institutional power in order to go after an institution.
And Mhmm. You're dealing with is in, you know, the the the state, the military, whatever it happens to be, you know, called at the time. You need that religious aspect of it because, ultimately, families, entire races of people are guided by religion. Whether whether it's Christianity, paganism, Judaism, or some other sort of heretical type of thing with Islam. And Yep. That's that's what we get. We need we need, discretion.
[02:36:07] Paul English:
Well, we do. That's
[02:36:08] Patrick:
a
[02:36:09] Paul English:
We do. I mean, I'm not Yeah. We do. Yeah. It's it's a it's a difficult path to tread, but, it it is. I can see, you know, I'm aware of many of the arguments against all of these sorts of things. I've sort of voiced them myself. I'm very concerned about organized religions as such, but there has to be a unifying factor, and it's our heritage whatever people may think about it, the fact is that all of the white Western nations are Christian in the sense by virtue of the root of the law that they use. Of course, we would argue here that common law is the best expression of that and I I believe that as well. But that's not that's not the point. The point is that the entire sort of, you know, even our ability to argue with with one another is gonna be removed. We won't even be able to have the fun of teasing the French anymore, Eric, which would be a great shame.
And they won't have the opportunity to call us the roast beefs or whatever they used to call us, you know. I don't mind. All that kind of stuff's fun in a way. And, of course, it was used in the past as we know, certainly last century, to set us at one another's throats and have brothers wars, which are just nuts. But I mean even coming back to the thing with the picture for the show, their communication back then at Townton and throughout that whole period was to communicate by loosing off hundreds of thousands of arrows at one another. Which isn't, you know, the other week but at Townton, just to wind it all the way back, in the first thirty minutes of the exchange of the archers, there was something like 400,000 arrows flew through the air. That's a lot. Oh, were they Christian?
Were they Christian at the time? One side more Christian than the other? Or No. It was nothing to do with that. It was nothing to do with that. Now, well, the whole country was Catholic at the time. Would have been under Catholic church. It's 1461 at the time. Same time they they they devolved into that. Well, it'd been going on for a long time. The history of these islands is basically a lot of punch ups, putting it mildly. A lot. But, I mean, you know, if you if you look at the Tudors, that period of history and the same thing was going on in Europe with the thirty year war and all this kind of stuff and other things. There's just a lot of it going on. My I don't know if I'd mentioned the other week my my son's view was the reason it was like that is there's just an awful lot more testosterone around. I think he's probably probably right, you know.
But the the capacity to wage war has not left us, and I'm not I'm not for it. I think it's just complete nonsense, but, it sometimes become unavoidable if you're gonna get bullied to a point where you can't live. You just go, that's it. I don't have any choice left now. You've taken and that this is why the removal of the free speech stuff is part of that process to push us, I think, into that space. I mean, if they were loosing arrows off of one or that was their way of communicating their intent, we could do it with words. But if we're denied a place to do it and ears that are able to listen to it, which is generally the case certainly within the completely hijacked political so called elites and all their minions.
You know, they're controlling the space by literally denying us a voice. We haven't got one. So we can't we don't actually interact with them. It's just a communications manhandling process. Everybody can see this. Our current prime minister in that regard is a great boon. I mean, he's, you know, he's probably one of the finest examples of someone who is literally never going to listen to anything that's said to him. I don't know whether he confuses that and thinks that that's a strength, but it's not. It's an imbecilic weakness and it's very dangerous and it marks him out as an oath, which is what he is, you know. He's just a box ticking. He's not he's obviously not stupid from a law point of view, but in terms of understanding human beings and what a normal person actually requires, I. E. Leave us alone, stop interfering, the the globalist agenda is the complete opposite of that. You are not fit to make decisions about your life. We basically own you. You are useless eaters. We're gonna feed you worms. We're gonna get Bill Gates to trot out all this nonsense and you're just gonna sit there and take it. And, excuse me, This comes down in part again to that revelation of the method principle that Michael Hoffman so excellently articulated a long time ago in the essay, which is that it creates this condition in the people of a bullia, a listless willness. We we have no will.
And you've got to fight against that if that's the right word. You've got to be conscious that that's what's going on. And, of course, they just wear you out. And it means the problem is and this is one of the reasons as well I think about the fear when we were talking earlier about being swamped with all of this stuff all the time. You actually become part of a process of becoming like your own mental jailer when you pass this stuff on. There's a part of it. Get a little bit of it, but the bulk of what we need to refocus on is more constructive things of standing with people locally and getting that energy going so that people say we can, at a local level, defend ourselves and go back to what we want. And as I've also mentioned, I don't think we're very good at defending either. I'm just about to instantaneously contradict myself. I think we are yearning for that purpose that we see maybe in the past was there. Yes. It's been abused.
Yes. Religions have got a hold of it and got meant to pointlessly and you know, hellishly kill one another. But we have to act in some way. If we do nothing, it's absolutely inevitable what's gonna happen because it's happening incrementally and with ever increasing speed every day of our lives, you know. I mean, it's it's so fast, I think, the degree to which the Trump bubble has burst. When we did the thing on Trump a few weeks ago when he came in, I was kind of playing the role of, oh, well, you know, it might be quite good because I wanted to. Let's be optimistic,
[02:42:00] Patrick:
but it's just gone. I I mean, it's just to me, it's just totally gone. It's a joke now. I I don't know. I I I wish I could say that it has gone. Mhmm. But I listened to callers in the RBN, for instance. Yeah. What A lot of the same the same, characters that were all for Trump are still all for Trump. It's like, oh, it's it's like the Q thing. Remember the Q Yeah. Conspiracy as they're called. Trust the plan. Trust yeah. Well, that's what it is. It's Q tards. Yeah. Or the Trump tards now. It's it's trust the plan. He's playing four d chess. That's he's, you know, he's He's kneejos.
Yeah. He's just gonna keep keep going at it until he rounds up all the criminals and deports them to Cuba,
[02:42:45] Paul English:
and and it ends up being
[02:42:47] Patrick:
just promises. And and by the end of the term, you're you know, you've got January 6 or something like that taking place where it's, like, ready to break out in the civil war.
[02:42:57] Paul English:
Well, you only have to look at who he's pardoned. You only have to look at who he's pardoned. And didn't he pass some kind of criticism about Netanyahu in December or whatever? And then there he is, you know, all kissy kissy with him. It it's just but I knew that was gonna come. Well, I didn't know it was gonna come, but I suspected very much that it would. And so, you know, here we are looking at the whole thing. And since 1945, on both sides of the pond, every single well, not every single leadership, but the bulk of them have been completely compromised. They're actually traitorous to the people that they say they represent and that they're gonna manage their nation on behalf of. They're not doing that and of course, ultimately we now got to the point where most people can see that these people are not the ones in charge. Like I'm saying, it's absolutely hilarious that I have to quote Liz Truss of all the people. But she seems to be the only one recently that I can think of that looks as though she had a plan to do something directly for the people of these islands. And of course Biblical that women That's why she didn't last. If good men do nothing, women and children will lead them as a punishment.
[02:44:03] Patrick:
Yeah. The Bible is biblical. I think in Isaiah, it talks about that. Does it? Well, there we go. We, yeah, and this okay. So coming up this next Sunday is the Super Bowl. Trump's gonna be there. Yay. It's gonna be a big crowd. The biggest the biggest television event in the world as far as the Ever. People watching it Yep. Ever. Mhmm. And what it is is it's gonna be you're they're these things are, put up by the military to get people rah rah, let's go to war type of thing. Recruit they spend a lot of money in our military budget on these sports games as a way to divert people's attention and but also to recruit people into going to war.
And I find it very interesting that the person who started the Super Bowl, his name was Lamar Hunt, and his father was H. L. Hunt Yep. Who was the the one who supplied the allies with all of their oil, which and and petroleum, which they making, you know, manufacturing everything in America, that ended up going overseas to to supply with the lend lease and and all of that. And he was the richest man in America at the time that that was occurring. So it's all calculated. It's all part of the whole system, and it's just interesting how people just don't get it, and they just wanna be entertained. It's the same old Roman bread and circuses to keep people distracted.
[02:45:37] Paul English:
Well, maybe I mean, it just appears to have always been like that. Bringing them to war. Yeah. The great mass, like that. And I think, and yet, maybe they're not. I hate even speaking like that. It it, you know, it's like, you almost end if you think like that to me, you end up like them. A kind of disdain for your fellow man, and I don't have that. I mean, I've met plenty of real fast Englishmen that I don't wanna spend time with and so I didn't. But I've, you know, the bulk of the people I meet are just for me fantastic, and I mean that. And, because, you know, this is the hand I got dealt. It's the hand that they got dealt. I turned up at that pub one day or whatever, you know. It's called life and it's living and it's got all these subtle wonderful things in it which of course they're gonna be they will go, when you affect the way that people want to live and express themselves. No matter how foolish you may think it is, we have to sort of live and express ourselves some way.
And of course they're saying, well we know how you ought to do that and this is the only way and this is the best way to do it and you're gonna do it best and everything's gonna improve because of that. Well it isn't. Life is absolutely messy, in all of that. And I'm reminded of this little quote from Edmund Burke. It's not the most famous one he's known for but this is spot on. He said, they never will love where they ought to love, who do not hate where they ought to hate. And, of course, people are terrified of hatred because it's hate crime. Right. Hate crime is now one of the Marxist trigger words, hate crime. And if you look up the word hate, it says a strong aversion to or dislike of. A strong aversion to or dislike of. I don't know anybody that doesn't hate something or some moment or at times even the behavior of some people. This is true. Some people get mistaken, of course, eternally hate people or some people for their entire life, which of course is exhausting and it's like acid in the system and it kills you. It does you in. You can't do that. But there's absolutely justified reasons why you would hate a thing, have a stronger version thing, because it's impinging on your values. It's destroying the quality of your life. Something that you're trying to build up. Someone turns up goes 'ah, just knock all that over'. I didn't invite them to knock it over. I didn't invite these people or whoever they may be to behave in that way and so things kick off. So, I mean, you know, we are suppressed in a in a huge sort of way. Maybe things will kick off at the Super Bowl. Maybe there'll be some colossal, bonkers event. I mean, what a great way to distract people even further. And should we all really look forward eagerly to the halftime entertainment, chaps? What do you think?
[02:48:16] Paul Biener:
We certainly do know that the halftime entertainment will be demonic. We know that. But there is one other thing that the Super Bowl is that I don't know if if we've touched on it yet. It is the biggest ad revenue day of the year. Mhmm. Yeah.
[02:48:36] Patrick:
They spend they spend millions per second on these advertisements that you'll see.
[02:48:44] Paul English:
Yeah. They do.
[02:48:46] Patrick:
Indicative of our culture, though, unfortunately. And it it's all about prestige and and who has the best. It's all it's all kind of a corrupted capitalism.
[02:48:57] Paul English:
So it says here for advertising revenue, brands paid, this may be for last year, Super Bowl commercials. Brands paid between 7 and $8,000,000 for thirty seconds of national airtime. Do you think the show could afford that? If we all chip in lads by Sunday, what do you think? Get a thirty second advert on the Super Bowl. It's only $8,000,000. It's obviously worth it to them. How many thirty second that's the I mean, I have to tell you as an English person, I've sometimes tried to watch it. It's very difficult because the stop start nature of it drives me a bit batty.
But there also there seem to be so many stops in it. And I guess is that for the commercial purposes? They say you must have 35 stops because we've got to release commercial. Yeah. So they're wiring something down to the ref. Can you just pull it up in the next ten seconds? We've got to run a break. I don't know. I mean Timeouts. Yeah. That's why college football is more interesting because they don't take those commercial timeouts. At least they used used to not Mhmm. Do that.
[02:49:59] Patrick:
So you you you have a point there with that because
[02:50:02] Paul Biener:
it it does take away from the game. It ends up becoming a commercialized thing, and it's like you But they take they take time outs whether they need commercials or not. They could be forty five seconds left left on the clock. You can walk away for an hour, come back, and they still haven't blown the final whistle yet.
[02:50:25] Paul English:
I watched a film last night, that I've watched years ago, a movie. It's quite old now. I suppose it's forty years back with Robert Wright called The Natural, which is about a baseball player. I don't know if you've ever seen it. It's a very nostalgic sort of film. I didn't grow up in America at that time, but I I get all the signals, all the cues from the way of life and from the architecture and from the nature of the clothing. There's echoes in England at the same time. It's not on the same scale but there's that kind of feeling about it and, it's a very romanticized, sort of view of baseball and it's got a sort of Greek tragedy type element wound into the storyline which gives it a kind of resonance if you're into that kind of thing. But, I just found it quite refreshing. I mean I've seen it a few times because I the only the American sport that I did like a lot was baseball. But, when you compare any not just that, but old time sports with currently what's going on. Yet, again, this is the middle aged farts club and I'm quite happy to be a founder member of it in this regard.
There's something really gone missing, and when you were talking about college football, that something is still there, it seems to me. Some of that is still there. A sort of a community connection, something a little bit more playful, and it's, it's difficult to relate to this thing. But no doubt, on Monday, most of the posts we're gonna get will be about the satanic halftime worship thing. How long does that last? Is that thirty minutes or something? It's sort of inordinately long, isn't it? Yeah. Yeah. Yes. It's at least half hour.
[02:52:09] Paul Biener:
Anyone remember George Carlin's, routine baseball and football?
[02:52:15] Paul English:
Well, I don't think it is that. What did you send me? I've got it here. It's I'm ready to play it when it comes up. It's No. I actually I actually have it right here. Oh, alright. It's George Carlin from Carlin on campus, 1984
[02:52:26] Paul Biener:
baseball and football. It's two minutes and forty seconds. There's no time for
[02:52:31] Paul English:
it. Well, I was gonna play Patrick's now. Maybe Alright. Yeah. Is that okay? Sorry. I'll play Patrick's at the end because we're getting towards the end of the show. I'm gonna try and wrap up at eleven. We never no. If I play this song, we will. So it's three minutes long. So if I start playing in four minutes time, everybody's keen to hear all this kind of stuff. We'll we'll make it to the I'm trying to keep it under three hours. I don't know why. I just think I have to try and have some discipline around this thing instead of it dribbling on forever. Quite a little bit. To the chat, by the way. Quick who'll be watching over in The UK? Will any of you be getting up and watching the Super Bowl? I thought I'd ask a trivial, stupid, vacuous question, you know, just so you can answer. Anybody watching it? What time does it start?
Is it 01:00 in the morning for us? There's no way I'll be watching that. I couldn't possibly watch it. I don't know what where is it taking place, Patrick? Anybody know? Does it matter? I don't know. It's on a football pitch somewhere. It's on a field I haven't watched the Super Bowl in years. Maybe we should just all watch it. I don't know. Maybe it'll be fantastic. I don't mean for the No. No. No. It's not gonna be that, is it? I I guess we'll get to see the halftime entertainment on Monday. Someone will there'll be probably some vicious review of it. In fact, everywhere we'll be gearing up to get it on their YouTube channels as soon as you can go. So we'll be overloaded by Monday afternoon with that stuff, I would have thought. So I'll be able to find it out secondhand, which will be marvelous. Yeah. Absolutely marvelous. In
[02:53:52] Paul Biener:
in lieu of George Carlin's, bid on baseball and football Yeah. Basically, what football always has been. I mean, baseball has always been like this happy go lucky and, you know, fun afternoon, played in a park, a baseball park, played on a diamond, a baseball diamond. Football has always been a game of war. It's played on a gridiron, in a stadium, war memorial stadium, and is is and it always has been a means of initial training for military service, and it's and it was presented as a game. But that's all it is. It's play war.
[02:54:38] Paul English:
Yep. Well, they are like that. They're territorial, aren't they? XO, by the way, has put us out of our misery with regards to the location. It's gonna be in New Orleans. He says, even I know that, and I hate sport. Well, it's just got in there. Okay. Well, thank you. That's it. You've you've been got XO. You've been brainwashed. It's gone right in there. So there we go. Yep. Well, there we go. Of course, we're viewing it through a different lens. We're not bothered about the sporting competition. That's not what we're talking about and all that kind of stuff. But as an event, everybody's event attention's gonna be on it. All that money on the advertising. Donald Trump, the first president ever to go there. Maybe he'll make some political announcement before the game. I don't know.
I'm And maybe his trousers will fall down. Eric, will you be getting up and watching it?
[02:55:25] Eric:
I very much doubt it. Really? I I'm, no. Well, I mean, it's, to me, it's about as interesting as watching wood warps. I'm not really interested.
[02:55:36] Paul English:
I I wonder what they're going to be talking about and passing in in government while people are busy not watching c SPAN but watching the game. Yeah. How many bombs will drop over the Yeah. There's one. Whilst you were watching the Super Duper Pooper Bowl, this was going on. Yeah. It'll be Wait. We're ruining your life. A bit even more than we usually do. We really got to move on and these things have all been happening overnight. Well, yeah. I guess we gotta look at anyway, we're at the end of the show guys. If I'm gonna try and wrap up inside the and of course, I'm gonna go a few seconds over. Any last words? Anybody want to reenact the Battle of Townton with real ammo? No? Put your head down and your powder dry. That's it. That's the one.
[02:56:18] Patrick:
Any last words, Eric? Keep it up keep it up. Well, thank everybody,
[02:56:23] Eric:
thank everybody in chat. It'd be very interesting. And, also, I might, if we can modify, I might crack the lady getting out the bath gag. So there we go.
[02:56:36] Paul English:
Okay. Fantastic. That's brilliant. Next week, by way of promo, it is February, which is the eightieth anniversary. I mentioned this last week of, the first day of Dresden, which ran for three days, thirteenth, fourteenth, and fifteenth. Monica Schafer will be here. Dennis Wise may well be here. This is not because he can't make it, but because we're just gonna juggle about where he appears on some shows. So I'll let you know during the week in the telegram group. We might get them both on at the same time or whatever. We I don't know quite what we're gonna do but I'll be having a chat with Dennis in the next few days. It won't be just Dresden solid for three hours but we will be talking it'll be a heavily historical sort of thing. We'll be looking at that the implications for today which is really what's the important thing, what it signifies.
And of course, it's only a few weeks since, the Holocaust show that we did, which wasn't really about the Holocaust. It was really about can we actually even talk about the Holocaust? Is it possible to talk about it in an intelligent sort of way with all these restrictions? The answer being, of course, no. It isn't. But we touched upon it in that way. So thanks everybody in the chat. Hopefully, you'll join us next week. I think it'll be quite a chunky show. It will be, you know, a more studious sort of thing to our usual although no doubt there'll be a few laughs and there's no reason why a toilet joke or two can't get in later on in the show. I'm sure they might find a way of creeping in there. So my fellow, yeah, my fellow archers, thank you very much for this evening's show for being here. It's been wonderful.
We're gonna play you out with George Carlin and, we'll be back again next week with, Monica Schafer, probably Dennis Wise, and we'll be looking at Dresden. Keep well, and we'll see you in a week's time.
[02:58:21] Unknown:
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[02:59:06] Unknown:
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[02:59:20] Unknown:
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I sent my liver to Pearl. I sent my lungs and my kidney for the summer to Sydney. But I'm sending my heart to you. Another big romantic ballad for you, and you heard it right here on Wonderful Wino. Wonderful Wino. Another big tune. This one's been on the charts for two and a half years. It's just starting to make the big move this week. Last week, it was number two fifteen. This week, zooming up to the big number two twelve spot, a folk protest song by Danny and the demonstrators. Don't want no war. Don't want no war. Don't want no war. Don't
[03:00:44] Unknown:
want no job neither.
[03:00:52] Unknown:
Okay, kids. That just about wraps up here on A Weird, Willie West Show on a wonderful Wednesday. We catch you again tomorrow on a thumping Thursday if someone doesn't bomb the station. But in the meantime We got the old tunes, the new tunes, the short tunes, the blue tunes, the greatest music in town,
[03:01:06] Unknown:
but we never play it.
[03:01:14] Paul English:
George, Carlin, everyone. We'll be back again next week. Have a cracking week. See you next Thursday. Bye for now.
Take a Look Around You. Yeah. Different tune in the pre show little section of the whole thing. It's, Thursday, February, winter February already. This is Paul English Live here on WBN three two four. I'm with you for the next two hours. Welcome to the show. And we've got a loose grab bag show for you as we always do this week. A few things, but where will it take us? We never really know. Hi, everyone, and welcome back. I hope you've been having a cracking week, whatever the word cracking might mean to you. Hopefully not bones and things. It's been a wild and wacky week in the world of media, I think, and, governmental announcements on both sides of the pond. Although, I think I think the guys in The States are kind of really winning on that score. I mentioned, maybe I mentioned it last week or I certainly was mentioning it to someone the other day that, the script that mister Trump is receiving is like a good cop bad cop script, but spoken by one actor. Actor. So he says really really good positive things that everybody would support on Monday.
And Tuesday, he's talking nonsense, pitiful, and rubbish. And, generally sort of, you know, going in the direction that everybody else, on the power elite wants him to go into. Not the direction, of course, that, that most of us want to go into. I think the, but no doubt this will come up during the show today. The announcements made with regards to Gaza are astronomically asinine and silly, but should we be surprised? I guess some people probably are. I've got some little comments to make about that. As as for today's show image, of course, if you're on the radio you wouldn't have seen it, people out there in radio land. But we're here on rumble, trucking along doing our thing and, if you haven't seen it, it's a picture from a battle that I mentioned the other week. I'm just currently into battles and things like that. That's generally what I'm doing.
And so we've got, we've got a picture of oops sorry about that. That got a bit of look back there. It's a it's a beautiful picture. I'm gonna try and describe it to you for radio listeners. Not really. Radio is, fantastic. Well, I get we'll get smell o vision as well soon so you can smell it. It's actually, a picture of the Battle of Towton, which I think I mentioned maybe on the show last week. And I should really, of course, be using this picture on the anniversary which is March. It was a Palm Sunday, but I've been sort of enamored of reading a book on this battle recently and it's an absolute blazing picture. One of the best ones we've had.
The show's not really about the Battle of Town at all. In fact, as I mentioned the other week, the images, are, not really got anything related to what we end up talking about in the slightest, to be quite honest. That's just generally the way it goes. But it was an enormous battle and it seemed relevant, I guess considering that we are in a battle. And, I was reminded I went off and looked actually at the, I was trying to find out what the names were for all the people that made bows and arrows. And, bowmen are known as bowyers. B o w y e I. It's a very common surname here in England. So now you know. If you know anybody who's a bowyer, it means somewhere in the long and dim and distant past. They were a maker of bows, and of course the English used the thing called the longbow.
I don't it would have been used in this battle actually. And the salient facts are, and the reason why I've put it up, there's two things. One is it's the biggest loss of English life in one day's battle ever, in the long and glorious and slightly questionable history, I guess, of Britain's combativeness around the world. Of course we've not been sure of doing a few things like that. But there you go, all the way back, to 1461, I think it is. If I got my dates wrong someone can pound me. 28 and a half thousand men dead in one day, all with bows and arrows, and axes, and swords, and all that kind of stuff. And I've also mentioned that I grew up very near the battlefield. And, earlier this week I went and had a look on Google Maps, as you do. Google gets into everything these days, doesn't it? You can't get away from them. To discover that I actually grew up about five miles from the battlefield. It was nearer to me than I thought actually.
So there you go. It's just something that's kind of squirreled its way into my head recently. It's a battle that's barely known. It's not celebrated. It's not mentioned anywhere. And yet here we have it one of these massive things that had taken place just in my backyard. Anyway, a wonderful picture. Just coming back to the name the guys that made the arrows by the way, they're known very common name in England as well. Fletchers. A fletcher is a maker of arrows. Although I quite liked the other name for them which is an arrow smith, which I quite like. So for all our US listeners, just giving you a little bit of sort of the feel of England in 1461, I'm sure I've got that date wrong actually somewhere.
But, there you go. Palm Sunday, March the twenty ninth in the snow. Not a fun day to be around on a Sunday. I dread to think what it would have been like but there you go one of those things. And of course, I had to throw in a bit of Shakespeare today in the show notes. It's, we'll be going in very different directions. This is just a bit of scene setting, but that bit, where he says whether 'tis and it's appropriate really as well in terms of the challenges that we fail, we face today. Look at these segues that I'm trying to desperately build up. Whether 'tis nobler in the mind to suffer the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune or to take arms against a sea of troubles and by opposing end them. And so I'm joined by a flight of arrow smiths. That's the name for that's the collective noun for archers by the way.
And, welcome to the show, Eric, Paul and Patrick. How are you fine gentlemen this jolly good evening for us in here in The UK and, jolly good afternoon, I guess, for you chaps over in The States?
[00:07:12] Eric:
Greetings.
[00:07:13] Paul English:
Greetings, Eric. Greetings. Hello. Hello, Eric. It's good to have you. And, It's good to have you as well. No. Well, I'm I'm glad to be here. Yeah. It's been a quite hectic day, getting my feet under the table. Lots of buttons to press even more, than usual today. We'll we'll mention something towards the end. But, yeah. It's been a very hectic sort of week. I didn't really know what the theme was today. There doesn't really have to be one. I think we just wing it as usual because it's the best way to to see where the conversation goes. But, yeah. I was quite taken really with the image of us being in a battle and, we are really. It's kind of weird when it's not obviously fought with the currently, it's not being fought with swords and battle axes and bows and arrows.
But it is definitely being fought and with each week passing by, it's as if the really mixing my metaphors now, but the heat is really going up in the kitchen isn't it? And it's getting crazier and crazier over here, and I think it's been super mad this week in The US with, some of these announcements that have been made. And,
[00:08:21] Eric:
Well, what I'm going to say I'm sorry. I was going over to The US, but I might be changing the subject a little bit. But, did you know that the longbow was a word that was invented by the Victorians? It was actually called a war bow, and during the day Was it? And, yes, and a boyer actually made or boyer was a person that made the bows. That's right. The, the that's right. But I've noticed that that,
[00:08:47] Paul English:
picture is very embarrassing because they were in their long johns, and they've got to put their trousers on. And and they, you know, it's that all in long johns. No latex trousers. I know. I suspect, really, the trouser budget of the day was probably very low, and and many men, of course, probably didn't operate in trousers. Oh. I don't know. Maybe it's a very it's a it's very terrifying going to the battle. Perhaps they had a, laundry problem. So that was the reason why. They couldn't change their underwear in time, you know. Just a thought. Yeah. I I think I think there's a very, there's a very good chance of it. Yeah. There is. There's a very good chance of it. Well, Bowyer, as I I think I did mention, it's good for you to reinforce that. There used to be a footballer called Lee Bowyer. I think he played for a London team and then he came up and played for the Leeds United and I come from Leeds. And I think it was probably the last time I ever really paid attention to football, which would have been the late eighties, early nineties. So some a mere thirty five years ago, I've I've been rather disenchanted with the whole idea of really the excessive professionalism that the Premier League has bought and the tedious cultural irrelevance of it at the same time. It's it's quite it probably always was silly, but I was sillier when I was younger and therefore, didn't mind all the silliness. But it I think it's super silly right now. And speaking, just moving around because we're gonna hop all over the place as we usually do trying to keep a track on these things. But Patrick, your your family's involved, is it not, quite closely with the amazing event that's coming up this Sunday in your nation.
[00:10:18] Patrick:
Yeah. My brother, he's a linebacker in the Kansas City Chiefs. So yeah. Yeah. It'll be his, third Super Bowl if they win. If they lose, it's like, oh, well, two Super Bowls is good enough. Why not? But it's against the Philadelphia Eagles.
[00:10:36] Paul English:
Is that is that a is that a tough draw? Are they very, very good this year?
[00:10:40] Patrick:
I don't know. I think I think they played the two years ago, they they played against them and won, so we'll see.
[00:10:49] Paul English:
So your brother, does he have two winners medals already or one winners medal? Two two rings. Yeah. Oh, rings. Sorry. Sorry. Rings. Yes. You get rings. I remember now. Yeah. Well, I I was for for a bit of late night viewing recently, I watched, I don't know why I watched this. I watched a bit of a documentary series on Tom Brady, which was quite interesting. It's quite impressive what he's done. Whenever anybody in any field of sport does sort of something outstandingly mad like that over such a long period of time, it's always impressive. A lot of swearing in it though. It was quite taken aback. There's a lot of effing and blinding.
It all seemed so unnecessary that we're doing this yeah. They were kinda doing this. This is just a camera one on one, you know. And they're just talking straight up about things and and maintaining You didn't have farms up? Yeah. And I'm just going, why are you doing that? It really didn't suit him. He was doing it. I go, don't do that. It makes you look silly. I mean, I know I'm a prissy Englishman. Right? But I just couldn't get it. I didn't see what the point of it was. It didn't sort of improve the quality of the viewing experience at all. It seemed quite irrelevant, really. Well, I was just talking to a friend of mine down in South Africa yesterday,
[00:11:57] Patrick:
and he was talking about Tim Tebow, who was a a football player from here, and he was known for praying before the before the, games. And Right. The media really ridiculed him for that. And, I heard he, he married some South African lady who was, like, miss Universe at a certain point. So it yeah. Definitely you you find people, like, for instance, I think their quarterback for the Chiefs, he's, dating Taylor Swift. So it's a a big deal, Kelsey, Travis Kelsey. And, you know, all the ins and outs of these these Hollywood and, you know, New York Hollywood Media Mogul type people. So and then and then not to mention the fact that the whole football organization is is a joke in regards to it being a nonprofit or was a nonprofit for many decades and then suddenly, oh, no. We're for profit. And then we have all these sports betting things set up that are basically online casinos set Yep. To take people's money.
[00:13:06] Paul English:
It's a joke as far as I'm concerned. And I know. I has there been an estimate of how much money is gonna be wagered then? There must be normally, that's that'll even make the business. Millions. Yeah. Yeah. Good. It's it's nuts. It's a good use of people's money, isn't it? It's really sensible. Time. Yep. Right. So, I mean, I think this year as well, I mean, tapping into politics, I understand that the press, mister mister Trump, is actually going to be there for the game, and that this is the first time ever that a president has attended a Super Duper Bowl. Is that right?
[00:13:41] Patrick:
I have no idea. I don't follow football. I shouldn't know more about this than you do. I don't follow football. Probably do know more than I do except for a few, you know, celebrity type things that just get mentioned in in, in these things. But, I, yeah, I could care less about football. That's my attitude. Really.
[00:14:00] Paul English:
God. Your brother's in the Super Duper Bowl. Yeah. You do talk at Christmas then. Yeah. Yeah. Some some Christmases. Yeah. Well, I think it's quite impressive. I think anybody that makes it to the upper levels of whatever they do is impressive. And, you know, you don't bump into people. So I can say I know us indirectly. What's that thing? Six relations of separation. I know I know a guy who knows a guy, who's got Super Bowl rings stuck on his fingers and stuff. So I guess that's a thing. That's a thing, isn't it? Yeah. It's a thing. It's a thing. It's a thing. It's a thing. Yeah. Eric, do we have soccer players praying before Premier League matches over here? I don't think we do, do we? I haven't seen any of that. I don't know. I haven't the foggiest idea. I wouldn't mind. So,
[00:14:48] Eric:
no. I mean, the my my knowledge of football was rather limited. I know it's a load of blokes kicking a a ball around. Right. Rugby is a load of blokes trying to, grab a strange looking ball. So it's all to it's all to be a to me, it's a it's a big balls up. So It's a load of balls, really, isn't it, Eric? When we really look at it, it's a load of balls, really. It is. I'm talking about a load of balls. Trump this week, he should be so he's an intellectual, isn't he?
[00:15:18] Paul English:
I don't Is he an intellectual?
[00:15:20] Eric:
Wants to buy I don't have any joking. I mean, he he was he, he he wants to buy girls or something and throw all the Palestinians out. And,
[00:15:31] Patrick:
Yeah. But he wants to give them good homes.
[00:15:35] Eric:
Where?
[00:15:36] Paul English:
Well, somewhere in a nice place. A nice place, he said, didn't he? Somewhere nice and super and wonderful and lovely.
[00:15:44] Eric:
What what about his house? Could he could he open his his his house? Because as he was saying it, I could smell something. I don't Yeah. Is it cats, dogs? No. I think it's bullshit, actually. But, but did you know is he, is that netting nutty nutty knickers or whatever his name is Mhmm. Is he actually a woman dressed as a bloke? Because Trump moved his seat for him, which is only only do for ladies with in etiquette. Yep. So is he is he moving the seat out for netty nutty knickers for, for the ladies to sit down? I mean I reckon it's all staged, all that stuff.
[00:16:20] Paul English:
I I mean, that's a sign of showing subservience, isn't it? Right? So one way to get yeah. If you wanna get the upper hand on someone, you do you treat them like a lady. One's the top and one's the bottom, as they say. Yeah. But I think And I mean
[00:16:35] Eric:
guess who, helped, Trump out when he was in debt. Let me guess. An agent of Rockefeller's oh, sorry. Rockefellers.
[00:16:47] Paul Biener:
Yes. Yes. Yes. So I we it could be either. It's an r word.
[00:16:52] Eric:
It's it's slap my thigh. Isn't that a surprise? But I'll tell you what, it is strange. We haven't seen Trump yet with, a beer mat on his head talking to a wall. And that's what we did last night. Yeah. We have. We got those. Has been talking to him. Oh, last time. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Last time, but, no, this new time, he he's normally, within a week, he's over there, but he isn't this time, is he?
[00:17:16] Patrick:
Well, I don't know. You could say that he was over at Schneerson's grave doing the
[00:17:20] Paul English:
the jiggedy boo or whatever they do. And I think that is I think that is the correct phrase. I think that is the correct technical term, Patrick. Yeah.
[00:17:28] Eric:
Is it jiggedy boo or tickety boo? It is. Oh, I remember that. Every time I see a bee I can see Trump there with his BMAT on his head and, doing it. Was it chickadee boo? Yep. Oh, that's a that's a good noise.
[00:17:49] Paul English:
It is. Isn't there a term in there's a you know, when he's talking about obviously, he's known for real estate development. It's funny. It's like watching a business. Yeah. Well, we're gonna do up this place. We're gonna turn and he's talking about turning into these great beachside resorts. The idea that the Gazans don't want to leave their home is completely and utterly it's dis it's not even acknowledged as a sentence. I think I saw a reporter ask that and he said we're gonna make these really nice beachfront side properties. I'm going, is this bizarre? What's really taking place? Is America now just well, not really America. Is Trump as the voice piece of the people that are controlling now in a position to just buy everything up? Oh, we're just gonna buy it all up. Yeah. Yeah. We can. Well, that's that's the American way. It's been our our slogan
[00:18:35] Patrick:
our slogan, the American slogan Mhmm. Forever. Hasn't it? Steel Land. Yep. Yeah.
[00:18:44] Paul English:
And I thought, really, isn't this a version of Trump's pump and dump? I thought, you know, Trump pump and sorry. I couldn't I was thinking about this today, and I just thought, you know, pumping and dumping is where you get all of a stock and raise the price and blah blah blah. Is it was the plan always to just annihilate Gaza, pick it up for nothing, and then rebuild it all up, and then all non Gazans are gonna move into these fantastic places. Meanwhile, American troops are possibly gonna be sent out there, but they won't get involved in any fighting. And it's all gonna be lovely and there's, you know, they won't have to worry about unexploded bombs and all the other things that are flying around. It's just gonna go great, sounds to me. It's just brilliant the way it sells. Without COVID and look at the dominoes that have fallen. And without COVID, this whole thing probably wouldn't have happened because people would have
[00:19:30] Patrick:
protested a little more than they they have to this this whole thing because how else could you justify doing that just going in and bombing like world war two area bombing and then and then justify it to your people without some sort of dramatic thing that happened in a series of events prior to that. The the lockdowns then the Russian war and then the justification to go in and and take and steal land kill, murder, you know, probably rape. Obviously, rape. Didn't didn't they say, oh, you know, we we can rape prisoners, and male, female, it doesn't matter, and then get away with it with impunity because their their dog you know, these people are less than animals. I think Their,
[00:20:17] Paul English:
security minister said something like that. That's right. Well, that's not the first time someone in a position of power from those people have said things like that. In fact, it's codified in their Talmud. So, you know, they're bound to read lines from it, aren't they? I mean, it's just it's absolutely surreal, the whole thing. There's no acknowledgment whatsoever that pea a lot of children have been killed. It's just it's like a real estate project now. Oh, yeah. That was just the sort of preparation phase. The fact that thousands of people are dead, that was just difficult. You know, they didn't get out of the way of the bulldozers, effectively. Well, they did come in the form of missiles and bombs and machine gun bullets and things like this, but, you know, it's their own fault for being there.
[00:20:54] Patrick:
Yeah. And they've been coveting this property for a long time. I I You think? Recall for. They have. Well well, yeah, two thousand years. But besides that, it's, just recently, you know, talking about resorts and casinos and this sort of thing, and that's that's the forte of our president is resorts and casinos, pleasure domes, whatever you wanna call them. That's it. That's the new real estate
[00:21:20] Paul English:
president.
[00:21:22] Patrick:
But the thing of it is, if they if they're gonna do it with us, they'll do it to us. That's that's the thing. Yes. We need as as people who speak English and see all these things happening, we need to realize that the people that we support with our tax money are doing it with our tax money, and they'll do it to us with our tax money someday.
[00:21:45] Paul English:
And to pay for it Yeah. This is the role I I mean, it's not affect it is obviously directly affecting them today, but this is a principle that they're rolling out. Everything is just being shifted and trying to be sold to us as a really great thing. We're gonna bring peace and this, that, and the other. And it's like I was saying there earlier on, I mentioned it the other week, you know, some of the things that that have come out of his mouth, the words that he's been asked to say, the words that we want to hear. But the other bunch of words, as it were, that are coming out of his mouth are basically the complete hidden hand at work, but overtly. So it's like, look, I gave you a nice thing, so now I can do a horrible thing. I know you don't want this, but I'm not even going to acknowledge that I know you don't want it. We're just gonna blithely go on with it. The press are supine apart from this, challenge I heard from a reporter earlier today, a female reporter in The States. I don't know whether it happened today, but I did hear hear it hear it earlier today on George Hobbs' show, which was excellent today.
And, so it's that. It's yet again, it's this control. It's a weird communication space, intentionally so, thoroughly designed to do that, And it just stinks of commie communications control, the whole thing, you know, but should we be surprised? No. We're not. We're not surprised by this, but it's still an appalling thing. Somebody, I don't know who again, I'm sorry for this. I need to start giving out acknowledgement. Someone kindly sent I'm gonna play a clip right now because I think he's appropriate. A couple of minutes long. It was a video by a guy whose name is is not on the video. So I've got to try and find out what it is because he's a highly intelligent guy. It's very long, so I'm gonna play the whole of it. Thirty six minutes. No. I'm not. I'm just teasing. The first couple of minutes, he just talks about Trump's role, and I think it's worth just hearing this. And seeing as that we're talking about him, let's just pop this in right now.
[00:23:34] Unknown:
Well, I think that the useful thing about Trump, is that he can package the the dismantling of American empire as the building of American empire. That's what he's doing. Because you have to sell to your demographic, and Americans are not the most mature, the most realistic, the most responsible people in the world, the most well acquainted, with history and so forth. So you cannot possibly sell America's necessary downsizing and the the the the managed erosion of America and the hollowing out of America is, you know, we've made a lot of bad choices for a long for a very long time. We've only ever really made short term plans for the future.
So it turns out that there's a lot of unavoidable, necessary changes that have to be made at your expense. You can't really sell that to the American public. You can't tell the American public the consequences are a thing. That demographic of political consumers simply cannot compute a message like that. Because, look, what Trump is going to do, what he is doing, and what he will do, these are all things that were gonna happen anyway with or without him. He's just the one who's selling it to you as a good thing. That's his job. You know? He's like the guy at a company who who who is who is designated as the one to deliver the bad news to you that you're gonna be let go.
And you designate him for that job because, he has a way of presenting it to you. He has a way of presenting to you you being fired as the greatest opportunity of your life. You know? All the new horizons that you're gonna be able to pursue and so on. That's Trump. That's Trump's job. You know? America has been stuffing balloons up their sleeves for a very long time and telling everyone that their muscles, but now even the balloons are deflating. The great American hoax is over, and Trump is there to oversee the dismembering of American empire. The US is gonna be isolated. It's gonna withdraw, and it's gonna be noncompetitive globally.
And like I said, this is all unavoidable. This would have happened with or without Trump. You've simply come to the end of your life cycle as a hegemonic superpower, and the decay and the decomposition that will follow is just part of the natural process. Trump can't be blamed for that, and he can't be given credit for any of this. But his job is to make you think that none of it's happening, even while it's happening right in front of your face.
[00:25:51] Paul English:
I think that's a pretty spot on assessment of what's taking place, certainly an aspect of it. Gentlemen, what do you think?
[00:26:01] Patrick:
He's he's there for, distraction and, red herring, I think, with this this whole thing with the immigrants and that, the illegal aliens. Yep. They're they're it's it's meant to throw us a a bone as a red herring to keep us from questioning things. Like, why am I not making fair wages at my work? That can be then blamed on well, oh, there's so many, you know, illegals that have come and taken your, you know, your jobs that you don't want and all this kind of stuff. And and h one b visas of these educated foreigners that come in and get preferential treatment. And and that can be the used as the excuse when, in fact, it's just the the mere greed of the the bankers that a lot don't disallow it from happening and these wealthy industrialists that don't want to pay you a fair wage for your work when they should be. And I think it these the people in New York City, the the Wall Streeters, they're they're just laughing at people while this is taking place. It's like, the the Democrats, the Republicans, it doesn't matter.
Because all in all, they all meet at the same place every Saturday and and discuss these things behind everyone's back. That's my thought on it. Yep.
[00:27:25] Paul English:
Well, it's just like they've just turned the press I mean, I think the the sort of all these dramatic events that have been undergone in terms of protecting the border and all these overt things, good though they are, are part of a sort of smoke screen. And it is I think the guy had it right. His job is he's like a good salesman, you know, and built up this momentum over the past eight years, maybe even longer than that, I guess, pre the two thousand and sixteen elections. Probably maybe ten years now. And, so he's got or has started off with a great deal of support, and there are certain things that are being said. Like we talked about last week about freedom of expression.
You're gonna go back to the old America, free speech, but this is complete bunk. Something you can't isn't there something about to be passed now where you're not allowed to criticize a certain group of people?
[00:28:20] Paul Biener:
Well, of course. I I think it's narcissistic. It's attack and retreat. It is. You know, it it that's exactly what it is. It's attack and retreat. You give them something they want. You you suck them in, and then you you abuse them or, invade them, and then you do something nice for them. You pull them back in again. And it it's just this up and down thing. It's narcissistic. It's attack and retreat.
[00:28:52] Patrick:
Well, what I find interesting is he wants to put tariffs on Mexico and Canada when we're dependent on them. We're dependent on them whether we like it or not. We've given their our industry over there, and you you expect that these tariffs are gonna somehow do something to, bring it back. And it's it's like when everything's already been raided in in The in America Mhmm. And sold off to the same people. Like, for instance, where my grandpa used to work as a security guard, the Ford factory in Saint Paul, they built Ranger pickup trucks, small pickup lorries, as you call them. And they they've taken it. They brought brought it down to Mexico. Everything's Mexican now.
And the steel, we don't have any steel mills left, make or steel blast furnaces. We have to go to Canada to Sault Ste. Marie to get it. So you're taxing you're gonna tariff Canada. So all of our raw materials are coming from Canada if we if we have to rely on domestic and not Chinese imports, which all will also be tariffed. And then, what they did to the factory here is they said, oh, we're gonna take the factory, and we're gonna build schools, technical schools so we can teach people how to do do trades. Well, that lasted for maybe about ten years. And now they sold off the property, and it's all these these ugly apartment complexes and row houses by the ghetto. It's it's ridiculous.
[00:30:19] Paul Biener:
It I think what it is is it's an end run around inflation, or or another means of inflation. Because I think the original goal is to bring manufacturing back to The United States, but that's gonna take time. What is gonna happen is the tariffs being applied is gonna increase the cost of goods and services, which will increase the percentage of sales tax that people have to pay because they're paying the tariff twice, really. The the importer is paying the tariff. And because the retailer has a higher price price product, then the people are paying the hidden tax, and they're paying an increased sales tax on that.
And I don't think that the prices are ever gonna go back down. You know, you know, even when manufacturing moves to here because it'll be the law of supply and demand. It'll be, you know, what what a product is worth, whether it's made in China or made here. Tariffs led to the civil war here,
[00:31:28] Patrick:
And we have the same rhetoric that was coming out of the Biden group, against Russia that we have out of Trump now. He's he's his his tool for getting you know, ending the Ukraine war is to say to Russia, okay, Russia. If you don't end the Ukraine war, we're gonna sanction you. It's like, well, that's, you know, it's it's it's like any of these other things. We're gonna sanction, you know, the the state department. It's all about sanctions. It's the only weapon that they can wield that then can be backed by the military. It's like, well, you're you're pun punishing an entire it's collective punishment of what you're doing. You're you're basically saying anyone who lives in Iran or Russia, we're gonna punish you collectively and go after you entirely. And it's gonna lead to war. It's gonna lead to more war.
That's and no one's see no one's saying anything in the media. Obviously, it's controlled. So who and who do you talk to? You know? You've got people going rah rah, Trump. Oh, yeah. It's great. And it and it's it's the same it's the like they say, the Uniparty, Republicans and Democrats, conservatives and liberals. Yep. It's the same everywhere in the English speaking world. You know? It they they're playing us for fools.
[00:32:47] Paul English:
Well, I don't know. I think they've always I think they've always played us for fools. I mean and we are really in a way, but it's because we've not found a means of how to, take up arms against this sea of troubles. Sorry to work that one back in, but we haven't. We've not found a way to do that. I mean, I saw that the, whoever his name is, the head of China is not too according to newspaper things, you know, is not too happy with this idea that Gaza is not gonna be for the Gazans. Is that genuine? Or is it he in on the fix as well? Are they all in on the fix? I'm gonna work on the basis that they all are, which, of course, is rather a miserable thought, isn't it? I mean, are there grounds for optimism? There are, but they it's like they give, you know, six of those but take 12 of the other things away. So in the end, it's still going in the same direction. It's just that they've it appears, depending on when you look at the news, that things are good. So if you like if you like I was saying, if you're watching on Monday, great. Don't watch it Tuesday. You'd be really miserable. Come back on Wednesday, great.
Keep missing out every other day, and you'll just have a really false picture of what's taking place. You know, you end up in a in a place where you can't rely on anything, but this is by design too. So, you know, are they very close to their one world order? I suspect that we're on under it right now. Really? I mean, there's there's in terms of the people here, and it looks as though it's going the same way for you. Everybody, of course, we've seen a lot of reports that that we're living under a completely restrictive communication space over here, which we are, and people are saying it as though it's not going to apply to them. Come on.
They're rolling this out everywhere, and no one, it seems, none of the populace can get through to their supposed elect elected officials. Selected, of course, is the correct term, is the accurate one, to actually get them to engage as human beings. I mean, I am still on my little walkabout stopping anybody that I meet who I think is worth a chat and sort of trying to prize them up. And I bumped into some neighbors today and similar sort of chat, you know, as the one I mentioned last week. It's really nothing new to report. They're cheesed off, as we say over here in The UK. Almost about to get quite cross about the whole thing, which is sort of, you know, DEFCON three really for the English, getting a bit cross.
And, it's going on everywhere, but there's still no focal point of how we deal with it. So that that's kind of a negative. However, I remain open to the fact that strange and odd things are likely to happen in my view. I still think this is not a kind of a total fait accompli,
[00:35:26] Patrick:
but but we need to find means. Before. Yeah. We have. The parish level. Yeah. That's what it's still very, very good goal to pursue is is, at that local level, build up your your communication with your neighbors Yep. Because that's your first line of defense in any problem that we're gonna be confronted with.
[00:35:48] Paul English:
It is. And for the vast majority of us, your neighbors really do form, and your local area is at least 90% of your entire life whilst you're living there. It's probably more than that. I mean, people are obsessed with going on holidays. I can't even spell the word. It's so long since I had one. And, I don't sit around moping about it. Oh, I need to have the Well, Paul was talking earlier about inflation being a problem, and it is. And this is a solution to it is your local
[00:36:13] Patrick:
your your neighbor. And I'll I'll give you an example. I have a neighbor that I do bible study with, catechism study. Mhmm. And he's raising he started raising chickens over the summer and the fall. And now he's he's, you know, putting out lots of eggs. They've got 25 chickens or more. And it's good to know him because right now, the egg prices are ridiculous if you if you go to the store. I don't go to the store, but I hear about it, and it's, like, 7 to $9 if you go and buy a dozen of eggs. It's it's ridiculous.
[00:36:45] Paul English:
You guys are sitting there. Even more expense. What what what are English chickens charging for their produce, Eric? Have you got any idea what it what they're going right? Farm.
[00:36:54] Eric:
Yeah. Sorry. I didn't mean to charge in there, but, one pound 60 five. I don't I'm, what's that about? $2, I think it is, for some a dozen eggs. Yeah. And, for organic, I think you're talking about $2.50,
[00:37:07] Patrick:
which is about, what, $3, something like that. Well, here, everybody's trying to blame it on the calling of the the chicken herd or whatever they call them the flock because of bird flu. Mhmm. Right? We're we're back to the whole COVID pandemic scare demic type thing. It's it's not good, and it's, and and it's a kind of a, you know, domino effect. Oh, well, everybody else is charging a high rate, so I'm gonna charge a high rate. And, I see it on Facebook. It's so it's gotta be the same price, you know. Instead of looking at it from this is what my neighbors make, you know, for wages.
And then I'm gonna provide them with something that can sustain them and sustain myself and and give them a fair price rather than look at the prices of what they're charging in the the box stores, the Tesco's, the Walmart's, whatever it is, and say, this is the fair price. Get it from me. You know? Let's let's support each other and and put your money where the money's gonna be used locally and benefit you.
[00:38:12] Paul Biener:
I I mean, I heard this morning. Okay. I just I just heard this morning somebody went shopping and they looked at the, 18 count eggs. They were $17. It's almost a buck a piece. Come on. Give me a break.
[00:38:28] Paul English:
Yeah. For an egg. That's really expensive. Why are your egg I mean, I just thought
[00:38:34] Patrick:
food in general. Brother Nathaniel talk about San Francisco with $12 a a carton, 12 a dozen, which dollar an egg.
[00:38:44] Paul English:
Well, look. Do you I mean, I know George George has got chickens going. George Hobbs, who was on earlier today. Should be rich. Hey. Yeah. We all need to come on. Let George, we all wanna be your friend. He's gonna be a chicken billionaire at this or an egg billionaire. It's funny because I've always used eggs as that example when talking about, you know, demurrage. An example. Yeah. An example. That's why I pick it, of course. Yeah. Very well spotted. But when we talk we talk about eggs, because I don't know how long an egg stays an egg. I'll have to get George, and we'll have to do a chicken and egg show. I think it would be. Of course, we can ask him which came first. He he's bound to know because he's been around chicken so long now. But, that's hellishly expensive. Even I'm surprised, but I you know, my experience whenever I went to The States, long time last time 02/2005, that's twenty years ago now, but was always that the food was generally not as expensive as it was in The UK. And, yeah, I've seen videos of American tourists, as it were, over here running, you know, YouTube channels saying we're hopping around England and here's a cathedral. And it's kind of interesting, getting to see how they see the country. Of course, they're looking at all the nice bits.
I suppose I would if I came here, you know, I ought to go look at them one day. But, you know, one of the things they've said they were surprised that the food was less expensive and I I that struck me. I've never really ever heard that or even thought that that would be the case, but it obviously is. That's a loonies price for eggs. Maybe they Well, it's not recently, Paul. Yeah. It's only I gotta say it's only recently that that we have this egg inflation or whatever you wanna call it. I think you do. But I I mean, you know, maybe it's a show maybe this is a housewives special show today where we talk about the price of things. I would imagine as well there's got to be I haven't found one. Eric, you may have found one or even listeners may have found one. Some kind of a chart that shows that when someone over here, for example, earns a thousand pounds and spends it, what they actually are getting back. Because if you earn a thousand pounds you pay 20% tax on it.
And then when you're buying stuff that's all got VAT on it. So that's 20% of that goes away. So that's actually net another 16%. So out of the thousand pounds you're down to £640 worth of purchasing power. You then nibbled at by every bill which is going up considerably all the time. We've got all this situation now with council tax over here going up 5%, possibly 20% for what? Everybody's going what am I paying for?' And you're basically paying for never ending wars and to, you know, basically, keep this, commie globalist system going.
They are literally I mean, people are beginning to connect the dots more fully that we are paying for our own servitude and we're being kept in that condition. And, of course, we don't have any communication stands. What meanwhile, they're all running around going, well, you've got freedom and democracy, but you can't say anything. But you've still got free. And this is part of that cognitive dissonance thing, this sort of revelation of the method stuff, which came up on the Telegram group today, which is always a gem that's always worth revisiting. You know, this, confusion, which is definitely being sound.
And, you know, to repeat it again, Trump's communications days are very much like that. I'm gonna say something great now. And they'll go, yeah. That really is great. And then tomorrow, I'm gonna say something great as well, but it isn't great. It's awful. Every day is great, but half the days is or whatever it is, you know, he's just talking hellish terrible things. So I think we've got to just assume that they're all in it. I think that guy's assessment from that clip that we just played was pretty spot on. I wish I knew he was. The rest of it is just as good, if not more detailed, looking at the breakdown of things. I know it's more sort of fine tuning of the situation, but it it's there. We the fact, you know, even even though we don't like Sir Keir Starmer, there doesn't appear to be any any means of getting him out because the really powerful people don't want him out.
Whereas Liz Truss, they didn't want her, so they got her out. She didn't last, you know, fifty days. I'm not saying that means she would have been amazing or anything like that, but it obviously she started to actually try to be, let's put it that way, a prime minister for these nations as opposed to a prime minister for those people that have indirectly think that they've bought them all up. It's, it is a kind of fruition of a lot of themes that I guess many of us have been discussing for many many years and here we are right in the middle of it. And, of course, they're parading around with all their AI stuff now. What was that quote from Bill Gates? That's an absolute plank.
But, you know, he's all smug and smarmy about it. Oh, well, we're getting to a point where we don't need people anymore. You know, my question always when I see the word we is, oh, Bill, who's included in the we? Are we all included? So we all don't need any more people. All of us.
[00:43:40] Patrick:
You know. It's, I've been having fun with AI, with the DeepSeek stuff from China.
[00:43:45] Paul English:
Yeah. The DeepSeek.
[00:43:47] Patrick:
One of the most interesting questions you can ask DeepSeek or any of these AI programs is, who pays whom? So you take a celebrity or a politician and you ask who pays him, and it it'll it'll give you the list of of their employers. And it was it was something I was, I was looking I've been playing a lot of Candace Owens on Radio Windmiller. Right. And she's kind of come out of nowhere. Well, not really out of nowhere, but, I'm not quite sure about her. I'll put it that way, especially with her her relation to Yes. Your lord lord, Michael Farmer Yes. Who's the treasurer of the conservatives
[00:44:30] Paul English:
really? Over there. Yeah. He's probably quite well connected, I think, isn't he? Well, yeah. It's very interesting because his son,
[00:44:37] Patrick:
George, whom whom Candace is married to Yeah. He was he's been business partners with the son of the he was a former president of Lebanon back in February to whenever. And suppo he was assassinated supposedly by one of these Hezbollah guys. Right. Which I find very interesting. I mean the fact that, he's business partners with and you find these things out just by saying like, alright. Who pays Candace Owens? And it goes, oh, the daily wire, Ben Shapiro, all this kind of stuff. And then and then you ask, well, who pays her husband? Who pays him? You know? And then who's his business partner? Who pays him? And it's just like, you could really find out a lot of interesting stuff quickly. And I guess that's the point. You could sit and weed through Google search results and find this stuff on your own, but it's it's a lot makes it a lot quicker and simpler.
That's not to say that you're getting accurate information. That's the problem. No. Are you getting it? But but still, you like, Wikipedia, we know that Wikipedia is censored and edited by the usual suspects. So you take it with a grain of salt, but still you find useful information in the facts that you can glean from it.
[00:45:49] Paul English:
Well, you you give me a little end. We I've got a couple of AI clips here, courtesy of the Telegram group today. It's the same guy in both of them actually. He's an English guy called Geoffrey Hinton, who is apparently the godfather of artificial intelligence. How about that? So isn't that nice to know? I'm not saying he's a bad man or anything like that, but this is an interview he did with, Andrew Marr. You remember him, Eric, I assume. The guy with the sticky outer ears. He's, anyway, here's a little clip from it's a couple. I'll play the first one. It's only it's very brief. It's about consciousness and AI, except it's not playing. Hang on just a second.
Let me just have a look at something there. Why is that not doing that? That's very awkward. Alright. I think that might be the reason. Just a minute. Let me try this again. That's the wrong one. It's all going well isn't it? Hang on. Let's get the first one up first. At least I got the sound in. Here we go. This is the short one about AI being conscious.
[00:47:09] Patrick:
Is it playing? Because we don't I don't hear
[00:47:15] Unknown:
hear. The play's exactly the same way. So I tell you what
[00:47:19] Paul English:
ping. Let's start it over again. Yeah. Let's start again. Sorry about that. I've obviously, I don't really want to hear Geoffrey Hinton tonight, do I? We don't really want to hear him. Well, I don't want to hear him. Just a minute. Let me get this sorted out. Tick, tick, tick, tick, tick. Yep. That's right. Right, everybody. At last, the wonderful, the marvelous Geoffrey Hinton, first clip of two. Do you think that that consciousness has perhaps already arrived inside AI? Yes. I do. So let me give you a little test.
[00:47:47] Unknown:
Suppose I take one neuron in your brain, one brain cell, and I replace it by a little piece of nanotechnology that behaves exactly the same way. So it's getting pings coming in from other neurons, and it's responding to those by sending out pings. And it responds in exactly the same way as the brain cell responded. I just replaced one brain cell. Are you still conscious? I think you say you are. Yes. I I do suppose I'd notice. And I think you can see where this argument's going. I can. Yes.
[00:48:15] Eric:
I absolutely can.
[00:48:17] Paul English:
I can't. Can you see where that argument's going? That makes sense to me. I'm quite serious, by the way.
[00:48:23] Patrick:
Sounds very mystical and magical.
[00:48:25] Paul English:
Well, I guess you've got to define what consciousness is. So all he's talked about there, it's not that AI is conscious, it's that it's replaced a broken part according to them. They're not having my neurons, they're mine. I love my neurons, they're great. And, so it's just doing the same function. It doesn't mean that that little neuron is actually coming up with anything, does it? I don't you see, I just think it we're being convinced that this thing is conscious and we're using this sort of language, but it doesn't strike me that it is. It's just a souped up, you know, massive replicating and recording system that interrelates things. So it creates the appearance of it.
But why why would you think that therefore AI is conscious just because you've replaced a bit? You You know it's a bit like I suppose you could say, well you're becoming a robot because we put a new plastic joint in your knee. So robots are becoming human beings. No. I don't think so. The command center is still somewhere else. I mean I'm not saying that they're not working on that but I don't really go with that. Of course, Geoffrey Hinton's much more intelligent than I am so possibly he would kick my bottom in a discussion about that. Well, he's got better PR than you do. He does. He does. And he has a history of being sort of silly bright. Anyway, here's another one with him again.
It says, Geoffrey Hinton, the godfather of AI, says there is evidence AI is already manipulating us. Having, well maybe you'd be better off being manipulated by AI than we are being manipulated by the money power. Having learned deception techniques, he says, from human history. Well, it's our fault, of course. Recent studies show that AI behaving in a deliberately deceptive way, including purposely behaving differently during training versus in testing. This is another relatively brief clip. Here it is.
[00:50:12] Unknown:
Do you think that this is already happening? That the AIs are already manipulating us?
[00:50:19] Unknown:
There's some evidence now. There's recent papers that show that AIs, can be deliberately deceptive, and they can do things like behave differently on training data from on test data so that they deceive you while they're being trained. So there is now evidence they actually do that. Yeah.
[00:50:38] Unknown:
And do you think there's something intentional about that or that's just some pattern that they pick up?
[00:50:44] Unknown:
I think it's intentional. But I'm there's still some debate about that. And, of course, intentional could just be some pattern you pick up back.
[00:50:55] Paul English:
We're doomed, lads and lasses. We're doomed. Are we? Are we doomed? What do you think? Do you think we're doomed? Do you think that adds to the doom?
[00:51:02] Patrick:
Does does AI have a soul? Is that the question?
[00:51:07] Paul English:
It may be. But then do we do we, as human beings, even know what a soul is, you see? Do we know?
[00:51:13] Patrick:
It's it's the invisible force that acts upon our body. Is it? I think it's been hyped up. The the soul the the the body is the form of the soul. Oh, that's I I I don't know. I think I think AI is, artificial is kind of a weird word for it. I would just call it archival intelligence, like using archived information intelligently. Of co of course.
[00:51:37] Paul English:
Go on, Eric. Yeah. Sorry.
[00:51:39] Eric:
Sorry. I didn't mean to chime in there, but but Richard d Hall.
[00:51:43] Paul Biener:
He I don't know if you heard of Reggie d Hall on richmond.com.
[00:51:46] Eric:
I think it was him. I'm sorry, Richard, if I'm wrong. They're saying that AI has nothing to worry about,
[00:51:52] Patrick:
and I think it's hyped up. Yeah. I don't think it's anything to be to worry about.
[00:51:57] Eric:
Moon landings and it's things. But going back to Trump, you know, the Gulf Wars, the two Gulf Wars, they were great big business opportunities. Look at Kuwait when it was rebuilt. It's the American firms that got all the contracts for that. So, really, to a lot of people, especially Trump, I think war is kind of real estate. It's where you can actually a chance to rebuild and kick start a sort of an economy type of thing. Look at World War two. Look how much money was made out of World War two. It's the same all the way through.
[00:52:33] Patrick:
And I think it's I'm it's great and all, but but the loss of life is Precisely. Is it worth it?
[00:52:41] Paul English:
No. It's not. No. That that that's the thing. Well, it is to them. Because we're yeah. But So they don't lose their lives. They don't lose their lives, do they?
[00:52:50] Eric:
Yeah. But look at psychopaths. Psychopaths don't give a shit about life because I believe, and doctor Hare, who's a lead is a Canadian doctor, who's a leading authority on it, has come very close to saying that psychopaths are not human. They are a, subspecies of human because their brain, their especially the hippocampus in their brain is completely different to ours. So in that sense, you know, there there are there are very small percentage, yes, but they always get to the top because they think differently to us and they react differently to us. And they use, to a slight well, as shall we say, to do the footwork for them, and they hide in the shadows. That's the real fact of the matter.
And it's money, money, money. And when you look at who these companies are owned by, it goes back to the same people every time. Rothschild, Rockefellers, you name it. Every time. It always leads back to there. Yeah. The Wailing Wall Street. Yeah.
[00:53:56] Paul English:
I like that well. And the question is, is Geoffrey Hinton a psychopath then?
[00:54:01] Eric:
I'd imagine. I don't know. It it it's very difficult because some people are sociopaths. There's narcissists. It's very difficult to actually you can say someone's a psychopath when they might not be. They might be a sociopath.
[00:54:14] Patrick:
I was I was looking at, you can you can kinda tell by the way a person looks. There's this company called Palantir, which, supposedly, they're using AI to target people in Gaza. The the IDF is using Palantir technology, and it's it's this guy named Alex Karp. Now look up Alex Karp, and then tell me that this guy isn't doesn't look like a psychopath just based on the way he looks. He's he's started this Palantir with Peter Thiel, who Peter Thiel is the big PayPal dude that worked with Elon Musk. And it's just it's it's the same type of mentality. Musk is is the same way.
Here's a guy, oh, well, the AI, it's gonna replace our brain cells and blah blah blah. It's just to me, it's a joke. It's a big nothing. It you're just taking computers and applying it to archives and then coming up with a clever means of putting things together. Mhmm. So these people That's what I think is You know, they're clever, but they're evil clever. And I think they're human. I don't think they're subhuman or anything. They're human, but they choose to do evil. These people choose. It's not they're not demons. They're not any of this other stuff. But they they somehow or another, they're led to believe that by doing evil, they're gonna somehow correct humanity from itself, from destruction.
And it's not working. We need to be able to take the control from these people because they're psychopaths. They're people who don't deserve what they have. They're it's ill gotten cane, and they're parading it around like somehow they deserved it. And it's a meritocracy that we live in, and they have to, you know, reiterate that kind of stuff. Like, Trump has been lately saying, well, I'm bringing in a meritocracy. We deserve it. You know, the people now in charge are gonna be the people who deserve to be in charge. It looks like no. This this is the same mentality that the last batch had, and look what they did. It's not any different. It's team a and team b. It's like football.
It's the Eagles versus the Chiefs. And by the way, I I said something wrong. Taylor Swift's boyfriend isn't the quarterback. He's the tight end. Matrix. I got corrected.
[00:56:29] Paul English:
Which is your home of fame? For our US Celebrity and sports news. It's terrible. Come on then. Who who who's who's who's bird is Taylor Swift then, as we would say here in England? Who's bird? I have no idea. Yeah. No. She's a bird. So she's classed as a bird. The bird. Yeah. She's the bird. So someone's someone's bird is Taylor Swift. Who's that someone? Did you get the name wrong or something? Or has she liked it? Was she the bird of someone last year on the Kansas doodahs?
[00:56:56] Patrick:
No. Oh, it's the same dude. Alright. Dude, at least she's, you know, at least she's got some loyalty. The last person I think she was with was from England, so she was, like, there for Oh, I'm sorry to hear that. Years. And, yeah, we we gave her to you for a while and we passed her back. And it's just like, nah. Well, thank you.
[00:57:14] Eric:
But but let let let's face it. The most of these high ups are related. For example, Stanley Dunham, who was a CIA agent, is Barack Obama's grandfather, and he's also George Bush senior's cousin.
[00:57:29] Patrick:
Oh, it's like the Rothschilds. They all marry their first cousins and Yeah. Aunts and, you know, nephews and it's just
[00:57:37] Eric:
Yeah. But it's just so so you got the CIA agent who's George Bush senior's cousin, and he's also the grandfather of Obama. It's it's just that that you you could make it up.
[00:57:51] Patrick:
Well, you couldn't. Think of Reality is more interesting. A better way?
[00:57:56] Paul Biener:
Is is there any better way to keep the money in the family?
[00:58:00] Patrick:
Right. Well, that's where they do it, isn't it? Yeah. It looks like the the rough jobs.
[00:58:05] Eric:
Go back to psychopaths. What there's a couple of I mean, I don't know if you've ever heard, of a book called Puzzling People by oh, I can't remember the chap's name now. I don't agree with a lot of it. I disagree with quite a bit. I'll be in a polite way. He might be right. I might be wrong. I don't know. But, but what I've found but what he does say is that, and I've seen this a lot. A psychopath, when they, meet you, they will scan you up and down for a while before it kind of plugs into their brain who you are. It's a very strange thing. And you look at these senior directors who are real psychos. They will scan. They just go up and down before they say anything.
And that there's a lot of little mannerisms that you can notice with them, because, again, they don't think or react like us. And the other one, they can turn on instant emotion and instantly switch it off, where we can't. Dogs can. And not saying dogs are psychopaths, but animals can switch emotions on and off. But psychopaths can switch our emotions on and off and look very good at it.
[00:59:09] Paul English:
So, you know, and that's active most of the time. That's my little 10p would be. So Well, no. We should we should carry on with our psychopathic assessment after the break. We're just at the top of the hour here. You listen to Paul English live on WBN three two four. I'm here with the crew of, Fletcher's and Aerosmith's, The Archers this week, Patrick, Paul, and Eric. Now this is a song that was a big hit in 1921. Okay? I think it was. Woah. Yeah. I I thought what's the oldest thing I could find that I quite liked? And, Patrick, this was on the seventy eights collection. I heard it earlier today and I thought When was it? Nineteen twenty one? This is 1921. I wanted to try and find something a little bit more recent. You know? Some four microphones,
[00:59:52] Patrick:
Paul.
[00:59:53] Paul English:
Okay. They played this in the they they sang into a horn in order to make this recording. Well, I knew that. That's why I picked it especially for you. You see, I just knew it would be a good one. So this is called Down Yonder by the Peerless Quartet, which I know they were very famous. They were the big boy band of their day, in The States in '19 Victor records. Yeah. Cool. Steam Abbey Road over there. Cool. So we're gonna play this for three minutes and then we'll be back, for the second hour. Hang around and here you go. Get ready with your logos. Down Yonder 1921.
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[01:04:13] Paul English:
And we hope you're recovered from that. It's worth me saying as well that on WBN, it is assumed that you are 18 years and older for all all the shows are for mature audiences who've got brains, possibly. Of course, to actually have heard that record when it originally came out you'd have had to be over 18, just to let you know. So that was from 1921 and I've got a message that the show is just being canned because we can't play songs that are that old. But there you go. I doubt if I'll be able to puts me false teeth back in. I doubt if we're able to find one much older than that. I can imagine that you were all rocking along gaily with that one, lads. Was that did that tick all the boxes? Incredible.
[01:04:53] Eric:
Isn't it amazing? Listen to the diction of it. And weren't they clear diction? And the reason why, because they had to belt it out in those days because they they didn't have, well, as Patrick said, didn't have microphones or or was it Paul that said it? I don't know. But they didn't have microphones, and they had to really be good singers. And, isn't it amazing, though, that they sung it during a heavy rainstorm? No. I'm joking. But seriously, though.
[01:05:17] Paul English:
Well, I was if we could read if we could get the words, Eric, maybe we could turn it into sort of, one of the Fockem Hall album's greatest hits. I think we should have male choirs dressed as barbers with those sorts of things, you know, like a barbershop quartet singing. I love I love it all and it made me think slightly of Monty Python when they do those sorts of organized old fashioned songs, you know, like the lumberjack song and things like this. And, but I loved it and there's a nice chord and a nice melody change in there. So I'm obviously hitting my senile years sooner than I thought, but I really I really liked it. And I thought, well, I'm probably I mean, if you find anything older, Patrick, let us know, but it's gotta be as good as that because that was cracking. I thought, you know, down yonder.
[01:05:59] Eric:
Yeah. Yeah. But there is older because I know for a fact because my granddad, who was born in '9 1888, he's, to earn a little bit of money for himself, a little bit of pin money, he went down the markets, and he used to have, like, a sort of a I don't know what you call it, like a tray in front of him. And he knew that it was they had cylinders in those days where they they and then Yeah. Edison. Edison wax. And he realized that records were the way to go. So he used to sell records, and people used to come up to him and go through the records and buy records from him because he realized that cylinders were bulky and the records are the best ones. And now that must have been he must have been in his teens. So what? We're talking about the early Edwardian times? And I know that during the first World War, didn't they have I think they had wind up grammar phones, didn't they, in the first World War? In the trenches, they would take the recording
[01:06:56] Patrick:
apparatus for making records. They would capture the enemy and make them play their songs so that they could set ambushes. They'd put records out of the captured enemy song. Yeah. This is recorded in a a book called Music Go Around by Fred Gaisberg, who was one of the pioneers of of recorded music. He actually started Abbey Road Studios back in I don't know. Way back in May.
[01:07:23] Eric:
And another thing they did is that I know that POWs in a German prison war camp, Germany had their sights set on taking over Great Britain, and they wanted to teach Germans a different accents. So they got people to they recorded people's different accents, which a lot of them have completely disappeared now. And they found this in an archive, and it was released all about fifteen, twenty years ago. I don't know whether it was under I don't know where where but it had been stored for years. And it was amazing to hear people talking with accents that are completely extinct now. You know what?
[01:08:02] Patrick:
That reminds me because I I I have researched, recorded music and and particularly the gramophone. In the Encyclopedia Britannica I have from 1910, it talks about by looking at the grooves on the records, you can tell what language the person is speaking based on the the waveform of the grooves. And they were going into that much detail even back then. So it's it's quite the science and it always has been ever since they invented it. But the thing of it is like Gaisberg, a lot of the recordings that they kept, they had two the two main recording plants that they had in Europe were in London and then Hamburg, Germany.
And a lot of the field recordings were kept in Hamburg from World War one. And as part of the Treaty of Versailles, those those recordings ended up in the British Museum.
[01:09:02] Paul English:
Well, it's it's good that we're being all in. Patrick, do you know, were the Peerless Quartet American or English? I'm assuming American because it's from your side. I'm pretty sure they're American.
[01:09:11] Patrick:
But then again, we had a lot of immigrants. Like, the person who invented it, the flat disc was Emil Berliner. He was from obviously, he's German. So Mhmm. He was a German immigrant to America, and a lot of these people were I'm not sure about Gaisberg. I think he was German too, but I don't know how long they were But do you know who made the first first recording ever?
[01:09:34] Eric:
And that was in 1857. Frenchman. The Frenchman called Edouard Leon Scott de Mandeville. And that has a name, ain't it? Yeah. In 1857.
[01:09:45] Patrick:
And twenty years later And it was on paper.
[01:09:48] Eric:
They they weren't able to play it back. That's the crazy They they they recently had managed to play it back. Yes. Yes. Yeah. And it's quite something.
[01:09:57] Patrick:
Because they the the apparatus was kind of like you have you ever seen those earthquake seismograph recorders that that sit and go on a scrolling piece of paper? I I I think that's how he did it initially.
[01:10:12] Eric:
It it's quite amazing. And, apparently, the first file of first, sorry, the first fax machine was around about that time as well. Similar to that. The French. The French were quite advanced. It was quite amazing. The French? Do you realize what you've just said? Yeah.
[01:10:31] Paul English:
The French? What are you talking about, Eric? Will you stop this? It's very worrying.
[01:10:35] Eric:
I know. It's disgusting, isn't it? Do you know who was the most tax well, do do you know, that victors always write history books, and that's why French history books have got so many blank pages? Sorry. That's a terrible one. Actually, truth be known, they were the most successful army for years, and they seconded the, it's the first was the Romans, and then it was the French, believe it or not. Yes. The Gauls. Yeah. Yes. But, no, really, it when you see that, it's it's a bit like these old photographs, and the these old things that they're still finding now. And they written there is a photograph of the Bronte sisters. And they written it's a it's a of the Bronte sisters. When were they That was quite When were they around? They're about 18, fifties, something like that. Oh, okay.
Wow. So that's quite early. It's very, very early. It is? Oh, yeah. It must have been about what? 04:00 in the morning or four? It's bloody early, though, ain't it?
[01:11:45] Paul English:
Yeah. It was. Yeah. Well, I think that's all I think that's great. It's good. So I think we'll be challenged to find something much older but you can always dig it up if you like. But it's just, you know, that's just a hundred years old that so it's a hundred and five years old and you would have to say that musical tastes seem to have changed quite a bit since then, like considerably, like almost unrecognizably. I can't imagine those chaps would enjoy much of the bilge that's produced these days.
[01:12:15] Patrick:
Yeah. And and that's because you have the producers of it. They they think a certain way, and they stick to their tribe. And so all of all of these Mozarts and and that sort that could be don't get the exposure that they should have. Mhmm. And you'd think that with the test of time, people would be going back to those things and rerecording them. Mhmm. But they don't because a lot of our modern copyright was a a consequence of the gramophone, what we consider copyright. They use that as a legal weapon to keep people from, you know, artistic and as a means of censoring people. Just look at YouTube, for instance. I mean, we we we might be broadcasting on you YouTube for all I know. But the they if you play
[01:13:02] Paul English:
if they don't like what you you say and you play any sort of commercial music, they can use that commercial music as the actual the reason for booting your your thing off. Well, it's interesting that you mentioned that because I have a little bit of pre show music. Well, I don't know what you call that. The bumper of the bumper or something. I don't know all these technical terms. But, we actually start the show now one minute. I I start talking at one minute past eight or one minute past three, because we're missing the first minute, which is a pity because those first minutes, they were some of the best minutes I ever did. No. So, and last week, the track that I use, which I just quite like, that came up. So what YouTube do is they say, hey. There's a copyright on this. And most of them go through.
Most of them go through because if you found it on a non official account on YouTube, the song, you know, some somebody else has put it up and it's still there. You're okay with it. That's almost like pre vetting the thing. But I thought to avoid it, so they ban it in certain regions and stuff. It's all super sophisticated and rather tiresome and boring, to be quite honest. But there you go. That's kinda what happens. It's modern day censorship.
[01:14:12] Patrick:
That's how they do it. And it was how they did it back then. Yeah. And that's how they stole I I have you ever heard the story that, Thomas Edison invented motion pictures and then the technology was stolen?
[01:14:24] Paul English:
I have. And they're the package Shipped out to that. Yeah. They ran away three and a half thousand mile miles to to California and got on with it when they was created. Yeah.
[01:14:34] Patrick:
Well, the it this stems from that because the the whole, the the the lawsuit that created copyright was to prevent Edison from from taking over or for, you know, claiming his rightful patent and invention. Mhmm. And it was, the two the two main companies that benefited from it were Victor Records of New Jersey and then Columbia Records of DC. Right. And and those went on to become what they are today. Like, I think Victor Records is what we call Sony.
[01:15:09] Paul English:
Yeah.
[01:15:10] Patrick:
Columbia is now
[01:15:12] Paul English:
Universal or some some group like that. Is it an urban myth or is it true that Sony stands for Standard Oil New York?
[01:15:19] Patrick:
I have no idea. I've never heard that one. But Yeah. Because, obviously, it's it's in Japan.
[01:15:25] Paul English:
And as part of the post World War two industrial, recovery of Japan, but, of course, every Japanese prime minister is a freemason.
[01:15:33] Unknown:
Every single one. Didn't didn't they get involved in the war because of, an oil embargo
[01:15:39] Patrick:
or sanction?
[01:15:40] Paul English:
Yeah. They were compelled. It was they were yeah. They were compelled. You could everything's about so called economics or the or resources or this, that, and the other. It always traces back to this. And I think this is part and parcel one of the reasons why energy technology, if it is able to burst into the world, and according to Cliff Hite, it's definitely gonna do that this year. I heard him say the other week, something like, watch out this year, maybe kicking off in May or even sooner than that, that the control of that space is the bad guys are gonna lose it. And this could be why they're in such a rush with all this massive sort of war stuff, this nonsense stuff, this distraction stuff, the great you know, the theater has has been ramped up massively ever since we started this year, ever since Donald, you know, put his trousers on and got going with his lines and everything like that. But, of course, you don't need to be a rocket scientist to work out that if you can come up with as much power as a rocket, and it not cost anything, you've got something seriously going on. And the history of the people that have created these things, I'm convinced that they exist because it's just ludicrous to think that we're still using all these things that were invented nearly a hundred years ago. You know, the internal combustion engine is what? Eighteen eighty or something? You know, it's not that it's a bad thing. It's been refined and refined and refined, but these things absolutely exist. And there was what's his name?
Stanley was it Mayer? The guy in The States. Yeah. Yeah. Mayer was you know, he goes to a meeting. Mayer. Yeah. Goes to a meeting in his car that's running on water, basically splitting getting the hydrogen out of it and running it, which is what it's all about. And a few days later or a few months later he's dead, you know. And I know someone here locally who's told me a tale about someone like that had converted their BMW to run on water. So this is obviously the case. And I'm sure I saw a tweet the other day courtesy of oh, another of the great actors in the world play, Elon Musk, saying that, they've had enough with electricity and they're going to hydrogen.
Seriously, have you seen that? Yeah. It makes complete sense, doesn't it? Yeah. Yeah. Yes. JCB, I've, though. All
[01:17:45] Eric:
JCB, they've, Yes. Perfected a hydrogen engine, and they're JCB, I don't know if you got them in America, but they they they do all these, trucks and, diggers and things like that for the building sites. Uh-huh. And, they used to have Ford engines, and I don't know whether they've worked with Ford with it, but they they, yeah, got a they got over to hydrogen. They they realized it it worked. Well, he's his problem with Tesla is the fact that you need batteries for electrical storage, and if you can use a hydrogen fuel cell,
[01:18:16] Patrick:
which divides back the the or brings back the hydrogen to the oxygen, and then that process creates heat, and and heat creates the electricity. Mhmm. It then powers the electrical motor. So there's really no combustion whatsoever. Where there's some people that take hydrogen and they recumbust it, that's a that's a different thing than a hydrogen fuel cell. And I think what he's going for is the hydrogen fuel cell idea where you could quickly, fill a tank with hydrogen and then go. Because the problem with the the Tesla cars is you have to charge them and they take forever, and then you get cold weather, which is a factor in in a battery charge
[01:18:55] Paul English:
and that's the creates the problem. So Battery cars are just they're they're just simply not thought through, are they? They're mad. They're completely mad. I mean, we've mentioned it before when you go and see that footage you don't have to see much of it. Someone will sort of throw up of those poor African lads that are thrown in those holes digging up the lithium and stuff. Mhmm. It's sick. It really is sick again. It's like, oh, I thought we'd left Victorian age of sending little boys down coal mines. Yeah. Isn't that what Marx was all about? Yeah. Yeah.
And, it's just it's a nonsense. And, of course, they're being ripped off. They're having to go down these holes to produce all this stuff. The end of the chain is worth a great deal of profit for whoever, whichever electric car manufacturer is doing or battery car manufacturer is doing it. And, of course, they're being paid crap again. This is it's just, you know, it's fundamentally owned Sam. Liberals that are sitting there saying that,
[01:19:48] Patrick:
oh, we need a clean electricity. You know, I'll send the little African boy down the cave.
[01:19:55] Paul English:
This I mean, when when these things are driven by politics, they're always a cock up. But I think that's the reason why they allow it to be driven by politics because politicians are basically incredibly limited in their abilities apart from receiving praise and thanks and receiving honours for all the wonderful work that they've done for us, which nobody can remember what it was, but apparently got in the newspapers. There's loads of it. They're just an absolute boon to us all, these people, but it it really is. I mean, I prefer I like internal combustion engines because you can hear them coming. Yeah. And Well, you can hear them coming. Speaker to these electrical cars and just Well, that's it. Might fall back into the audio sphere again, or you could have a guy maybe with a wax cylinder on the back winding it through. We go back we're really going super retro with this one so that you know that the car this is a recording of a Mercedes Benz from 1925. You can make your car, I suppose, sound like anything. Good. And I I guess with modern audio technology, that wouldn't be impossible, you know, with all this sort of micromanagement of sound spaces. It's unbelievable.
I remember seeing something years ago about the design, the future design of nightclubs. Not that that would mean anything to me as I you know, I wouldn't go in no matter what they did with them. But, they they created a speaker. I don't know if you've seen this, which is not a speaker at all. It was like, a six inch metal tube, that they bolted into the ceiling. At the bottom of the tube, it came to a point a bit like the thing they use on a lathe. I don't know the name of it because I'm a thicko. But when they're holding the the work in place, there's like this pointed thing and kind of stuff. And, so they set them up on the ceiling and they're they are emitters. They emit frequencies and you have to have at least two, and I guess it's all to do with whatever computer system you've got driving the whole thing. Maybe the more the merrier. But what occurs is that they emit sound waves. You can't hear anything at the point where they're coming out. But where they collide with the other one, the sound comes literally out of nothing.
It comes out of nowhere.
[01:21:53] Patrick:
Yeah. Point yeah. But I think that's a binaural type, sound where you get two competing waveforms that, Yeah. Coincide with each other and they cause
[01:22:05] Paul English:
movement. Like, you can deal with it. So the sound is not coming from any one source. It literally fills up the entire space. There's no sort of like, oh, there's the speakers. I'll stand away from them. No. The whole place is. And you could even design the room with a, an invisible line in it. So if you had a bar and you didn't want the din and the racket going into it, you can set it up so there's literally an invisible line where the sound ends. So you could be stood on the dance floor, you know, because we all like to go dancing, don't we lads? So you stood on the dance floor, grinning and baring it, and you go, I can't be doing this. You just step one foot to one side, and it's completely silent. Who knows?
I'm sure that's all quite possible.
[01:22:45] Unknown:
Have you noticed though with these electric cars, they're bringing out retro cars out. They've actually relaunched
[01:22:51] Eric:
cars, a modern version of the February and, two CV. But can't they go forward? I mean, what what I mean, we're seeing comedies. That are still popular. 40 Towers, that was what? Forty odd years ago? Fifty odd years ago? Yeah. Yeah. Where are the new where are the new products? It's just like the music industry. No new new products. That's right. I I I mean, really, I'd have thought by now we'd have had real super du I mean, when you look at these small one seater electric vehicles, they're not individually carriages. They are horrible. Absolutely. I can't I know. A bit slick.
[01:23:28] Paul English:
Wouldn't you say this is across the board though, Eric? I would. I mean, I don't know what it's like with novel writing, not that I read any novels or anything like that. But everything just seems derivative. It's in sort of an accountancy world. Like with films, you do part one, two, three, four, you know, whatever it is. Halloween part 395 is coming out soon or whatever, you know. And and I think it's to do with the overall demoralization of people. Now it's not specifically the right word, but there is a lack of fun in the world. Spontaneous silly fun. There there just isn't any.
Everybody's deadly serious. They talk far too long as if you're really interested in the background to their lives. No one is really. Just get on with your own stuff. Your nearest and dearest are. I think that's really important. You have your own crew. But, when I watched them talking I mean, they they had these boy bands that kicking around the nineties. They're doing these documentaries as if they actually contributed something of importance to anything. They're complete crap. All of them. I mean, there's not one of them. I mean, you got it's just stupid nonsense. There's no it's just silly sort of sex stuff. You got is that it? You know, we play the beach. Stuff. It is. It's just crap. It's it's totally trite crap. And the whole news media has become Right. Just gossip. It is. It's fine, isn't it? It's not cheeky. It's not it's not rude in the right sort of way. It's not, it's not savage in the right sort of way. I I can listen to just about anything. Well, that's not true. But I I can listen to a lot of things and a lot of things I don't like, but I can tell when I I have a sense that it's good or that there's someone's heart and soul went into it. That I think that counts even if I don't like the end product at that particular time. I mean, I remember getting albums and so you go out and buy an album, you play it through the first time, you were lucky if you liked one track and you go oh god this is awful!' Three weeks later it it revealed itself more slowly. It was a bit like, you know, first being exposed to classical music.
My ears were up for that when I was 10. I couldn't cope with it, but some people could. They loved it, you know. I'm gonna play violin and off they go. It's fantastic if you're that in tune that early on, but I was a bit sort of stupid, I guess, in in that particular way. You just pick your stuff. But since Blair got in over here, I don't know what happened over there Clinton at the same time or something, that's Bill. It's just been pants. And, yeah, I think we we've mentioned this before. Certainly in The States, you can track it back inside the music industry to that radio decision that that Clinton made where these massive corporations bought up all the radio stations and basically replaced the station managers, which was this outlet for spontaneous, you know, second rate stuff. The thing about second rate music is and there always used to be some. It wasn't always fantastic in the sixties and seventies. A lot of garbage produced.
But the thing is that the good stuff stands out. It really leaps out at you when you hear it. And, of course, it's in contrast to all the other stuff. Whereas now, everything is so perfectly produced with all this other stuff. It's what is that about? You know? Oh, great.
[01:26:33] Patrick:
Now you know? Reminds me of the Rockefeller notion that competition is a sin. Mhmm. Keeping the monopoly going. Yeah. So you you get rid of your competition and and and make them fearful of even trying thinking about competing with you. And that's kind of the way these things have worked out with the music and that and the cultural things. It's like everybody's so afraid of of doing something that will get them on you know, make you know, publicly make them like a fool or something. Yep. And then they they don't do it. It's the same with, like, broadcasting. We I I remember William Cooper was around the time of the nineteen nineties when that all was going on, and he was on shortwave radio. He had more people listening to him than wartime BBC.
Mhmm. And he was doing something quite interesting. He was telling people that they should start their own radio station with, you know, start out with a small low wattage amplified signal and do it FM so you're not, you know, bouncing all over the place, and you just have a local group of people that you you broadcast to. And if we I think that's the way it should be, and people should stop being fearful about it and actually just do it. Start their own radio station. Have a have a, you know, 40, hundred 50 watt station going.
And then you can get people involved because and you have your local parish, whatever we were talking about parishes again. But Mhmm. You can you have access to people just being able to tune in whenever they want to. And the it's not a complicated technology like the Internet seems to be more I mean, it complicates things. It makes it harder to do it. But if you and and that's the way it should be. There should be competition so that you don't have a George Soros coming out of nowhere with a a load of money made off of, you know, scamming British people on on the pound back in the day like he did. And then and then coming in and buying up all the radio stations and saying, well, no one else can compete with me because I've got all the licenses, and I've got permission, you know, to to broadcast here and there and everywhere.
When everybody should be doing it and getting as large of a a an amplifier as you can get and and can afford in broadcasting.
[01:28:51] Paul English:
Well, I'm sure the talent's still out there. I'm sure the talent's there. It is. I mean, I've heard it. There's all sorts of people out there are quite brilliant, but you have to really hunt to find it. There's a sea of stuff, isn't there? And I guess, you know, if you look at sort of the booming YouTube channels and all this kind of stuff, it's fantastic in a way. But they're all micro audiences or very small, which is understandable. And this is why I guess some people are just so sensationalistic in their presentation to try and get the eyeballs and to connect up with them. Whether that's a useful sort of a good use of time or not, I I don't know.
[01:29:25] Eric:
Yeah. But a big trouble, because I've I've seen a lot of these, because I kinda like, big bands and and and sort of music from the forties, thirties, quite interesting. Also a lot of modern stuff as well, but or some, but not all. And what gets me is you see, a glamorous lady dressed in a sort of nineteen thirties or forties frock with a band behind them, all dumped, and they're all covered in tattoos. It doesn't seem like Oh, yeah. The Amy Winehouse's. Yeah. Yeah. And and or or slag tags as as as a lot of people call them. And and quite on the seat, slag tags.
Or two. Have you heard that? Yeah. Oh, it's coming to slag tags. Like that. American. Yeah. But, really, have you, heard, Patrick or Paul of the, pirate ships that we had over here in the sixties?
[01:30:13] Patrick:
You heard about that? Yeah. The pirate radio?
[01:30:15] Eric:
Yeah. And the way the government lied to, shut them down because they were broadcasting quite legally. And they were beyond, I think, is it the five mile limit or something like that? And what happened is the reason they were, closed down is they was frightened of them broadcasting the truth. That was the real reason. And they made out that the, wavelength they were broadcasting on was upsetting emergency services. Mhmm. People were were dying because emergency services couldn't get round round that was Pleans will fall out of the sky. That's right. It was made up. And what happened, there there's a place called Clacton. I don't know if you ever heard of it. You know? Clacton On Sea. Isn't that its full name? That's right. Oh.
Yeah. Well, you know, they they they saw as it's, I left my heart in San Francisco. Well, really, original one was I left my heart in Clacton On Sea. You know? Yeah. It's got It's I think the original's got a bit more romance to it, actually, now that I think about it. Yeah. Clacton On Sea caught me in. Yep. There's a conspiracy theory. They say that you can smell the sea air on a Thursday afternoon when all the burger bars are closed, but I'm not quite sure about that. But, anyway, what what happened, it was a very depressed area. It's a lot of high unemployment. And these, ships were out. And, apparently, the the a lot of the dish jockeys said that you could see the lights of the other pirate ships because there's loads of them. Because what happened is there's a load of Liberty ships that were made during World War two going cheap.
So they bought them up and converted them so that, they could, you know, broadcast because the main American companies actually had this idea. Anyway, what happened is fishermen, earn a lot of money because these boats had to be supplied. So they went out supplying the boats. And local businesses started to boom because they were supplying food and all kinds of things. And also, the fishermen would take tourists out to see these boats. There's a lot of tourists that are interested in it. And it and places like Clacton who that were depressed were starting to boom. There's people, you know, there's money being made. Of course, the government couldn't have that, so they they put a stop to it. And, they actually brought the special service. I think they I think they used the SAS, didn't they, to storm one of the ships? And, again, that was all totally illegal.
Not the pirate ships, but the government were acting illegally because, officially, they were outside the five mile limit. So it was, a lot of the shit of the borough that the government was coming out with, but it was thanks to Harold Wilson and his government that closed those pirate ships. And a lot of the disc jockeys went over to the BBC after that, and the rest is history. Well, when did you have to pay the BBC tax? Always. Have to pay radio license. Always. Yeah. But you used to have radio license. They stopped that in the sixties, I think. But you had to if you had a radio, you had to pay a license for it at one time. You had to pay for it. You had to pay to listen to the radio. Yeah. So yeah. Okay. Yeah. But radio is really important in in regards to this because
[01:33:30] Patrick:
look at, I'm I'm reading the book on Dresden by David Irving. And the the thing that that radio the role that radio stations played back then to and compare it to now, it's, very important as as far as, communicating with large groups of people and and feeding information to them. It it's not to be underestimated because that that there is the reason that a lot of, you know, problems happen and and actually solutions to things can happen.
[01:34:06] Paul English:
Is that well, it's a more dynamic medium in a way. Oh, it's got the sense of it being instant, really arriving in real almost I know it doesn't literally, but that's the impact of it. It's a more I don't know. There's just a it's a bit like faxes always carried a lot of weight when everybody was sending faxes to everybody because the fax machine, I guess, has completely disappeared now. But the fax had a because it makes a sound in the office and everybody other than you knows that something's going on. There's always little subtle things that take place around communications technology for granted. And when they're not there anymore, you realize that people kind of don't know what's happened. Whereas, you know, in an office if a fax came in, everybody thought, is that an order? They're all like, yeah, great. And everybody gets a bit giddy about it so it keeps team morale going, all those sorts of things. Everything's a little bit more quiet about it. But radio has been and remains a dynamic thing for all of us as as we are, you know, pounding on here seeking to build up some momentum around Internet radio, I guess, which I still think is a marvelous thing. But we're just, you know, we're competing for a lot of, ears and and hearts and things to to get things going and keep things moving. But we keep pounding on because, you know, I think it's as good a thing to do as any really, right now. And I I you know, the history of the computer
[01:35:22] Patrick:
is is tied to the music industry, and these recording devices ended up becoming the inspiration for things like hard disks that we use for, you know, memory now. And it's, interesting to me the whole lawsuit that was going on for years. I don't know whatever became of it, but the Beatles who were part of the whole Apple, you know, the Apple Music versus Apple Computers that Steve Jobs founded. That whole thing, that transition, like, where did he get the idea for Apple and all this kind of thing. I think there was, you know, these behind the scenes people negotiating these things all along. Yep.
[01:36:02] Paul English:
The Beatles are so weird, though. Aren't they?
[01:36:05] Patrick:
But the history of the recording I'm a stock stand. Studio. Yeah. Well, Tavistock, all of this stuff. Like, we all Tavistock. You're right? The shell shocked troops and all that sort of thing. It was all tied to the warfare. You know? For instance, the Peerless Quartet. Maleficus Scott and I and Gary Reese had a had a show where we went in through the history of music, recorded music, and we did a a show just on protest songs, anti war protest songs, either anti war or pro war type type songs. Yep. And the Peerless Quartet, Maleficos, played a tune from them that he thought was anti war.
But it turns out the Peerless Quartet later, you know, a a couple years later, were churning out music with people like Enrico Caruso and all these other characters of doing the same songs. Like, there's the song over there, like, over there.
[01:37:02] Paul English:
Yes.
[01:37:03] Patrick:
We all sang it. That was a song to get people motivated to go to war, And they were using it as a way to go to war, but he had played a song where, you know, previous to that, they were against the war. Like, it was the mother's prayer to keep her son out of the war. And it's, you know, a lot of these we're talking about Trump. Right? And and he's, you know, you got warmongers, and then you got these people, these politicians that run as anti war mongers, but then they become warmongers. It's like, oh, we fooled you all along. We were warmonger. We were gonna you know? It's like Wilson Wilson was against the war before he was for the war, same with Roosevelt.
And I'm sure probably Churchill, where they're telling people, vote for me, and I'll prevent the war from happening. And then they get in the power, and then it's like, oh, no. Wait. We can't prevent it. We gotta go to war now. And and and they motivate people to to to do that.
[01:38:01] Paul Biener:
And They sold out, the rat bastards. Yeah. Exactly.
[01:38:04] Paul English:
Yep.
[01:38:06] Eric:
But it Can Go ahead. Sorry. I didn't mean to cut in. No. I was gonna say is, Woody Pete, you know, I was talking about Clacton earlier. He said, very good point. Wasn't it Clacton, Olsey, where they decided they would shove the pipe if The UK needed an enema?
[01:38:24] Paul English:
I think he's right. By Jove, I think he's right. Yeah. You know? Yeah. Yes. Yes. Yes. It's,
[01:38:30] Eric:
yeah. Well, with with Clacton, it's the sort of place that if you want money, depression, it's the place to go. Sorry. It's quite important to me. Today. Sure. Yes.
[01:38:43] Paul English:
I mean, I think just going back to this Beatles thing, it's just that it's completely, I don't want to sit on the Beatles at all, but, I think there's some kind of classical music analyst and, of course, this may go somewhere to explaining why people would think that an awful lot of people were involved in writing all their songs. Don't know about that. It's still oh, they had certain influences but the the variety apparently in their music is equal to that of Mozart, I believe. And I don't know quite what that means. Right. But it's it's huge and it is actually irrespective of what you might think about them. I mean, I don't really sit around and listen to to Beatles stuff. It's a very straight the the further you get away from it, the older it kinda looks, the whole thing.
You know, the way all the crowds were generated in The States and everything, you feel that there's something really going on there a bit like, you know, that place in America where the yeah. Yeah. There's just got
[01:39:41] Patrick:
It's a science. And, like, I I highly recommend you read the book by Fred Gaisberg called The Music Go Round because he he worked when he was 17, he worked for Thomas Edison, learned the trade secrets. Yeah. And then he went and worked with Emil Berliner who invented the flat disc. Right. And then they flew him around the world. He went to London and started Abbey Road Studios. And this was, like, in the 1900 like, nineteen o five, somewhere around there. Wow. And then he he stayed there. He well, he went to all over the country. He went to Hamburg. They set up another recording operation making discs in Hamburg, Germany.
And then he spent most of his time in London at Abbey Road, and he saw from the wax cylinder to his the invention he helped create, which was the the flat disc, 78 RPM shellac, all the way to the 45 RPM vinyl disc in 1949. And he was there for all of it. And it was completely, you know, there's a overlap between the government, the military, the music industry, all of that that he, you know, was part of. Like, I was telling you before about the trench warfare where he would go into the trenches Yep. It was him. And take the captured soldiers. Yeah. It was him because they had the technical know how to do that. It's like any of the stuff. It's the technical know how that gets people going. Like, I'm reading the the Dresden book about the radar that they would use in the airplanes to see where they're going at night Yes. To show them where to bomb.
It's that kind of stuff that gives them a competitive edge in warfare that allows them to do what they do. Mhmm. But the the problem is they're not matching it with morality, and that's where we need to, you know, come to a consensus because that this idea that you can just area bomb a place like Gaza and then say, okay. Too bad for you that live there, but we're gonna put our casinos up, and there's nothing you can do about it.
[01:41:51] Paul English:
You know? Well, I mean, the whole of the twentieth century is is that loss or not that, you know, not that warfare is fun. That's not what I'm saying. But there were still elements, I think, of chivalry and decency even in the first World War. But the first World War obviously brutalized all the Even in the Second World War, reading the World War. World War is when it completely you know, the idea of bombing civilians is began there. Right. But not amongst all everybody though. That's the thing. The the you have leaders that were doing that kind of stuff. Churchill was quite keen on it. He was quite keen on it. He quite liked it a lot, did Winston. He loved it.
And, If I may. Yes. You may.
[01:42:30] Paul Biener:
They almost have to carpet bomb Gaza and rebuild it because they have to find a place to put all the displaced people from the homes they destroyed in California. They almost have to.
[01:42:45] Paul English:
Mhmm. You think there's gonna be a bit of a is there gonna be a star trek? Literally, all the stars are gonna trek on over to, to Gaza, and they'll be okay living there, will they? And in and in five and ten years' time, we'll see YouTube videos of my apartment in Gaza and everywhere, and it'll be just given this veneer of fantasticness. And Well, maybe they'll move Hollywood from Hollywood to Gaza.
[01:43:07] Paul Biener:
Yeah. But Tom Hanks is not a Tom Hanks is not welcome there because he had a private, fire brigade that saved his house. He he doesn't need property over there. Right. And he was neighbors with Spielberg.
[01:43:20] Patrick:
I get it. Yeah. Yeah.
[01:43:22] Paul Biener:
Right. None of his neighbor's houses survived.
[01:43:27] Patrick:
Did did they have blue roofs?
[01:43:30] Paul English:
Remember that in Malibu? Have you noticed, though, just how fast that's gone down the memory hole? What's that? The blue roof thing? No. The fires. Yeah. The whole roof. Oh, the fires. Yeah. The whole fire thing. Onto that? Just gone. It was the same with the Maui thing. There's these real if we I'm I'm thinking of keeping a list and then every three to six months just reading out back to us. We'll all be surprised. I am when I look at it. How fast you can't hold on to what these major things are apparently going on, you know, because I'm beginning to hit the point maybe the bamboozling has just completely worked. There's such a glut of information now. I I saw I think, David, gee on Telegram said he can't keep up. You're not alone. I can't.
I don't think anybody can. It's it's gone sort of ballistic, the amount the volume of things. I know much of it is repetition, but the the medium has got such a certainly Telegram and these other has got it transmits a sense of urgency about it. And I'm going, I need to stop this now, you know. It's why I'm picking up more and more books again to re familiarize myself with the space that you're in when you're doing long form reading. It's actually better in many ways. I mean, I think a mix of the two is probably unavoidable to be quite honest. But, there is a bombardment. You don't really realize it's going on because you're getting all these little hits. These are what's it called? That stuff that comes up in your brain. I don't know. I can't think of the word right now, but you're getting these hits. The thing that the blue light gives you, you know, it's giving you a little that little reward factor all the time and this has become a kind of an addiction.
And it means it's probably easier for them now to get us to send things down the memory hole because we just can't hang on to it all. I'd you know, maybe this is what they'll sell the idea of brain chips on. Can't remember things? Get this. It's got 800,000,000,000,000 terabytes of storage and you can instantaneously retrieve it through your brain chip interface with your hard drive. You never need to forget anything ever again.
[01:45:26] Patrick:
Right. Well, that's the AI, the archival intelligence. Yeah. You're going back to the archives in a quick manner. In a way, you couldn't do it on, you know, looking through books. But at the same time, books are so important because that's where all the knowledge of human existence is. And you have to read it slowly and and carefully. And it's not just, like, scrolling through TikTok videos
[01:45:50] Paul English:
or any of this other stuff. Yeah. Well YouTube videos. YouTube videos. Yeah. Shorts. Oh, those shots, they're just they're they're toxic, aren't they? They're like speed or something. I'm not that I'm taking speed, but they're just, you've got to I lost thirty five minutes today. I went, what are you doing? I I had to do something, and I caught one. I don't know what it was about. It's quite it's about marketing. I like that because there's another one. Then I start watching one about a truck trying to get across a river. It was six minutes long. It just looked impossible. Why am I telling you this? Do you see what I mean? It invaded my head. I'm going, what use is this? Afterwards, I'm trying to shake myself out of it, but it's tricky. It is suddenly, you just go, oh, look at that. That's so funny.
[01:46:28] Paul Biener:
If I could if I could jump in, I need I need to make a public service announcement. The YouTube YouTube videos, there is an autoplay. Mhmm. Always turn that off. Turn it off. Save your settings. Don't let YouTube decide what you're gonna watch because, God help you, if you fall asleep and YouTube serves up dozens and dozens and dozens of things to contaminate your subconscious while you're blissfully Use Brave Browser.
[01:46:59] Patrick:
Use Brave Browser so you don't have to play ads in front of that because that's another thing that's a soul sucking type of Yeah. Brave's pretty good at that. It's the of all the ones, I use Opera and Brave.
[01:47:11] Paul English:
And, Brave, I like a lot. It's a bit more resource hungry, but it's still jolly good jolly good. And
[01:47:19] Paul Biener:
set your if you've got a smart TV, god, I hope everybody does, that has a zoom function. You can have either widescreen, you can have normal composite 16 by nine, you can have four by three, or you can have zoom or stretch or whatever. Set your screen display to Zoom, especially if you watch the nightly news. Because that black border around the little box inside there with all the little blue wavy things going back and forth constantly, that's just there to hypnotize you. Use the zoom function on your TV, and that stuff gets exploded right off the edge of the screen. You might lose a little bit of the ticker at the bottom of the screen, but what you gain in neurons is well worth it.
I love my neurons. Do you like yours? Aren't they great? I love my neurons. I love them. I'm I'm actually in a love affair with my neurons. They're fantastic.
[01:48:23] Paul English:
They're absolutely fantastic. Of course, maybe this is the whole purpose to create a demand for Geoffrey Hinton's, you know, microscopic, neuron replacement bits, with AI and everything. Cool. It's great. Then you can just watch TV forever and know nothing but think you know everything. Great.
[01:48:41] Patrick:
In fact, they've thought of everything. In your head come out of nowhere.
[01:48:46] Paul Biener:
The voices in my head don't like you. I want that on a t shirt.
[01:48:53] Paul English:
I like that. That's a good one. That's really cool. Yeah. We like that. You know how I have I'm just looking at the time here. We got about ten or eleven minutes to go to the end of the show on WBN. We will, of course, be running on for a little while afterwards. Hey, Paul. Yeah. You
[01:49:08] Patrick:
I have a request for for some, outro. It it's not really music unless you have something already in mind. It's, George Carlin from back in the sixties, and it's clean. It's not foul language. Alright. It's centered in your telegram. Cool. What is it? A baseball and football routine? Well, no. No. It you you were singing a song or, quoting a song about leaving your heart somewhere. Yeah. He does a little a little bit of on sea. Yeah. Yeah. Clacton on sea.
[01:49:38] Paul English:
We'll run that right at the end of the show, Patrick, because I've got something just for the top of the hour as we go out. Yeah. Yeah. That's cool. But that's great. I'm glad you offered that up. That's really good. But, you know, I I think I've got enough time to get this in, really. You know, we've been re I've been reading from this book about foreigners. And, I have. And, because Eric brought them up and actually provided some praise for them, I think maybe we should do the French, actually. We could do the French now. It's about five pages. I think we could get this in. By the way, the tag line for this show on WBN has changed. We're no longer from the dark side of history.
So we're gonna have to get back to some of that. This is now just a very English show which, of course, is a bit rude to you chaps. Isn't it really? It should be a very transact but me and Eric are trying to hold our end up, aren't we Eric? So we're trying to keep it going and and all that kind of stuff. But how about the French? Right. This is from this book. So if you're sitting comfortably here at the end of the WBN section of the show, here's the French as described by these two fine English ladies in 1935. The French.
Tremendous advances have been made since the days when all that was known about the French was that they are a polite people fond of dancing and light wine. Indeed, there are few people about whom we know more. We have even unlearned a little. For instance, it is no longer believed that the French eat snails and frogs daily. Less certainty is felt about revising the opinion that Frenchmen kiss each other on the boulevards whenever two male acquaintances meet. Of course, it is not the nonstop phenomenon it was once known to be, but the fact does remain that Frenchmen kiss each other in public. They do. Including, Macron and his husband. The French are very clever.
They are both intellectual and intelligent. This is, of course, most undesirable. Brains generally imply something false, unsound, and shabby, and it is well known that it is character that counts. As regards character, the French are sadly deficient. A leading piece of knowledge concerns their meanness. They are fan fanatically mean. Frenchman know each other for years without ever being asked into each other's houses for a bite to eat or for a snort to drink. It is justly remembered in their defense, however, that one of the reasons that the French are so inhospitable to foreigners is that the foyer is really too sacred to ask people to.
It is curious about the foyer because it is well known that there is no word for home in the French language, and that this proves that there are no homes in France. The importance, the inviolability of the foyer or hearth is equally acknowledged. In its honor, divorce is eschewed, and households are kept together at any cost. Family life is a sort of religion. A young married couple and their children always live in the same house as the parents and the grandparents of one of them. Young married couples in France never have any children. A man is ruled in many ways by his mother till the day of her death. He may deceive but never defy her. There are no love marriages in France. All the French, both men and women, are by temperament wholly and stupendously immoral.
For all their rigid meanness and economy, there is not a Frenchman in Paris, at any rate, who does not keep both a mistress and a wife. Although the immorality of the French is a byword, the many immoral entertainments of Paris, a sink of rather laughable iniquity, are all on account of the tourists. Montmartre and Montparnasse are the chief American colonies. It is allowed by all but with special reference to the intelligentsia that the French attitude to sex is sane, balanced, and eminently sensible. This is an admirable thing because nobody, except of course the English, ought to be quite as inhibited or as romantic as the English are. It should, however, be noted in reference to French sanity concerning and mastery of sex problems that as it is well known that the French think of nothing but sex, it would be unfortunate if their reflections had brought them nowhere.
The chief French theaters are the Folies Bergere and the Comedie Francais and French actresses always act in the nude. The French are artistic and take an interest in every branch of creative art. This interest is cold and lacking in poetry, but very excitable and liable to lead to pandemonium. There is always pandemonium in parliament where people boo and scream continually and slap each other's faces. In France, no gentlemen go in for government, but they get worked up about it being so corrupt and strangely full of scandals. French crime falls into two classes, scandals, bad, and crime passionnel, good.
Only crime passionnel ever come before a jury, and consequently, no jury will ever convict convict in France. Scandals all spring from the staggering corruption of members and employees of the government. They are never unraveled, but someone is sent to Devil's Island, and on coming back seventeen years later is found to be innocent. Devil's Island is a convict settlement with malefactors and where malefactors endure a life so savagely insalubrious that only the chain gang competes with it. See America. I remember that. A notable French institution which operates in Algeria and Morocco, see Africa, is the foreign legion.
There are no Frenchmen in it under the rank of sergeant. The private suffer well nigh insupportable brutality and rigor, and they are recruited entirely from the scum of the earth and from dissolute English noblemen screening the family honor behind the name of Smith. Most Frenchmen are Parisians, not nice, and a few live in other French towns and are bourgeois and not nice either. Nothing is known about other French towns. In the country live the peasants who, unlike the rest of the French, are rather fine fellows in a grim, compressed, hardworking, economical way. There is also a grand and ancient aristocracy in France which is very wonderful and inaccessible and which we all respect. The French, and here we strike a welcome note, are brave. They are patriotic. They are immensely sentimental over two things, la patrie and la maman.
The French are an intensely logical, reasonable, precise nation, utterly unsentimental. There is something cold, ruthless, and cruel about this logical temperament. The French are excitable to the verge of hysteria. The French have no color prejudice whatever. They just cannot conceive how anybody could have. In actual fact, you do not see French ladies and gentlemen married to Negroes, and there has never been a black president or premier, but this is merely a sustained matter of hazard. Food in France is excellent. It is the only country where you can get a decent omelette or really good coffee. Coffee in France is bad because it is made with chicory. The English and the French do not get on well together. The graspiness and want of imaginative sympathy in France makes half the trouble in Europe. The French are fond of anything new. The French are witty. The French have only two jokes. The French, of course, have no sense of humor.
So there you go. That was more of a straight one. It was there wasn't too much witticisms in that, was there? You see, I'm reading these blind. But there you go. That's the French summarized in 1935. Anyway, so there we go. Deathly silence. I wish you'd not read that.
[01:56:49] Paul Biener:
Well,
[01:56:50] Paul English:
that was interesting. It was. It's interesting, isn't it? It is. It's interesting. There you go. We don't we don't want you to think that we're not gonna bring you a bit of culture in a show every now and again. So there you go. We did. Next week, the Swiss. The Swiss. Okay. The Swiss next week. The Swiss yodel. So that's the opening sentence and there we go. So we're talking we'll be talking about yodeling next week which of course is a fine skill and maybe we can get some yodeling tracks lined up for that. I think we could. In fact, Patrick, I'm sure you could help out with that one. That would be pretty good. Okay. We're at the end of our show here. We're gonna play out with a song and we'll be back after this.
This is well known Tim Hawkins the Government Can. Quite a nice tune from, I don't know, ten or fifteen years ago, I guess. It been, bumbling around a little while. I like this. It's fun. It's playful. And, of course, the lyrics are reasonably accurate given current times. Here we go. We'll be back with you all after the break. We'll be back on WBN same time next week. See you all then. Have a cracking time and we carry on on Rumble and elsewhere after this song.
[01:58:00] Unknown:
Hey, everybody. Gather around. I'm here to give you anything you like. You want free college, energy, mortgages, whatever you like. You have come to the right place. Why? I'll tell you why. Who can take your money? Who can take your money? With a twinkle in their eye. A twinkle in their eye. Take it all away and give it to some other guy. The government. The government can. The government can. And who can tax the sunrise? Who
[01:58:37] Unknown:
can tax the sunrise? Who can tax the trees? Who can tax the
[01:58:39] Unknown:
trees? Let your run a business and collect up all the fees. The government needs. The government
[01:58:49] Unknown:
The government can. And the government
[01:58:52] Unknown:
can. Because they mix it up, relax, and make it all taste good. The government takes everything we make to pay for all of their solutions. Health care, climate change, pollution. Throw away the constitution. And who can give a bailout? Tell us to behave. Tell us to behave. And make the founding fathers roll over in the grave. The government's. The government. Oh, the government can. And the government
[02:00:42] Paul English:
Yeah. That's the cheers of everyone. Fantastic. Isn't that a cheery little song, dad? That's that's very cheery. We all cheered up, lads. You like that?
[02:00:53] Patrick:
Makes me wanna pay my taxes.
[02:00:55] Paul English:
Me too. I've just paid them while the song was on. I was that excited and happy. It was great. Maybe that'd be quite good at my funeral. I don't know. What do you think? It could be quite good. Come on, everybody. Don't the Irish do wakes well? The Irish do wakes so well. We we used to have a sort of a semi tradition of that over here, but the Irish are world champions when it comes to that stuff. Brilliant. Anyway, they I don't know why I thought about that. I just thought it was so incongruous, you know. But, yes, love lovely little song.
[02:01:22] Paul Biener:
During that song, I wrote out a I stroked out a check for my taxes, but I paid them etherically because after I wrote the check, I burned it.
[02:01:32] Paul English:
Oh, yeah. Well, I'm looking forward to paying more council tax this year. Are you, Eric? You're looking forward to that?
[02:01:38] Patrick:
I think Eric disappeared.
[02:01:40] Paul English:
No. Has he had enough? Did he? Has he liked it? He's just disappeared. No. He's still there. He's just on mute. Maybe he's had to maybe he was overtaken by the happiness of the song and,
[02:01:51] Patrick:
you know, he's just had to go and, I think you have to add him to our to our group here. What is he? He's in the waiting room. Is he again?
[02:01:58] Paul English:
Oh, yeah. Oh, he's back. Eric. Are you back? Hello. I don't know what happened. I was sitting there. One minute I was on and the next minute I was off. You went to the toilet. Come on. Admit it. We know what's going on. You just thought I'm not listening to that. You just lagged it for the loo. It happens all the time. You know?
[02:02:15] Eric:
Skip to the loo. Here we go. Yeah. But, that was quite a nice jolly song. Yes. I felt like paying my taxes and and on the way, you know. It's so nice knowing that those nice, usury scammers were getting or or parasites are getting that more of our money, isn't it? Just Just think of how much money they're getting. It must be a phenomenal amount. Absolutely phenomenal. I mean I know. You know what I mean? So much money, you can pay anybody off to do anything.
[02:02:44] Paul English:
There used to be a joke, you know, along the lines of, I would gladly sell my house and all my possessions to help out with this that the other, but I don't think we'll need to do that because it looks though they're just gonna take them anyway if we don't stop them in some way. Everything just it's not just creep creep creep, it's grab grab grab. So, you know, council tax, of course, is a really hellishly irritating tax. I suppose when you take them all into account, you know, going back to what I was saying maybe in hour one about this mythical thousand pounds that you've just earned. I wonder what you actually get after all the taxes and everything has gone from you. When you look at everything out of Yeah. You know, the average income for an average family over here, it's it can't be much. And, of course, this they've got this thing over here now called u universal basic income.
I don't know if you got anything. Have you got that in The States? Well, yeah. The the acronym is UBI. That's right. UBI. UBI, UBI, UBI. And they want everybody on it. And, of course, it's just a control thing. Are you gonna get this money and do stuff? No. You're not. And, of course, the the real kicker with all of this will be the, the digital cryptocurrency system, which will literally What?
[02:03:51] Patrick:
Wouldn't you say that when we had COVID, I don't know about over there, but here, for the first time ever, we got a check for being locked down. And that was being touted as the the basis of for the first, payment for UBI, universal basic income. Yeah. They were just Trump did it, and then Biden did it shortly after he he got in the off to office. We got another check, and it was a lesser amount, but, it was still a check on all of it. Did it, it was 1,200. When Biden did it, it was 6. Yep.
[02:04:25] Paul Biener:
And and some countries, while they were locked down, the governments actually did pay a monthly basic income.
[02:04:34] Patrick:
Did they? Where where was that? I never got that. I thought that well, well, it certainly wasn't here. Well, didn't the founding fathers say give me liberty or give me $1,200?
[02:04:45] Paul English:
Wasn't that a No. They say give me liberty. They did say that. They did say that. But they did Give me liberty or give me $1,200. Yeah. They did. I'm sure What
[02:04:54] Paul Biener:
what they didn't tell us is what liberty is. Liberty and freedom. You know, you ask somebody, are are liberty and freedom the same? No. They're not. Freedom is the freedom to do that whatever you wish to do as long as it doesn't harm somebody else. Liberty, like, sailor on liberty, is permission to act as though you're free within the limitations of the, of your commanding officer, but you must be back aboard at o six hundred Monday because we're shipping out with or without you. Liberty is permission to act as though you're free. It is not freedom. Well, the way I always was taught it in catechism
[02:05:42] Patrick:
was Christian liberty is the freedom to to, tell the truth, Freedom to acknowledge the truth. And that real real freedom you it like, free speech, for instance, is the freedom to tell the truth openly and publicly. But lies have no place in the public square, so you don't have the freedom to tell a lie or to bear false witness against your neighbor. So it's it goes into morals there too. It's like with the freedom, you have responsibility. You can't you can't you know, it's just like driving a car. Great. You can drive a car or you can even drive a tank for that matter, but the moment you start running people over in the street, then it it's not freedom.
[02:06:27] Paul English:
Well, speaking about free speech speaking about free speech, a clip for you. Okay? This is, an American lady making a comment about the communications condition here in The UK, I think.
[02:06:43] Unknown:
There is no doubt in my mind this would have been the fate of The United States if something had gone differently last week. The UK is now saying they are going to imprison any citizen that views what the government deems to be far right propaganda online for up to fifteen years. I have so many questions about this, not the least of which is, can you even control what comes up in your algorithm? If something just happens to pop up in your feed, are you doomed to spend more than a dozen years in federal prison? Right to jail, right away. Who gets to determine what far right propaganda is? Because let's be honest, by modern UK standards, every single thing JK Rowling posts on x is probably considered far right propaganda.
And is enforcement anything like what we've already seen regarding social media You guys okay across the pond? Blink twice if you need help. You guys okay across the pond? Blink twice if you need help.
[02:07:52] Paul English:
Well, I'm blinking lots. Now I think that's from a little while ago, but former. Yeah. Isn't it cool? Eric, are you ready for fifteen years in in the Nick?
[02:08:02] Eric:
Well, it might be quite nice, actually, because they reckon that when the people were sent to the gulag, they they were with, other people. They had free speech there because, they they couldn't get much worse. So they're speaking freely about things. But, it's a bit like the old, I think you've always got to follow the money trail. And there's apparently there's a joke in World War two. I wasn't alive at those days, but apparently, there's a joke. It said, question, where is the capital of Great Britain? Answer, Rothschilds Bank.
It's true. Hey. You've just be careful because the Oh. Oh. Hang on. Hang on. Hang on. Hang on. I'm sorry. I I I'll I'll see you. I I think oh. You never know. That that might be an off coming coming Oh. You never know. Evening, Osterholm. To scare people. Yes. But did you know that the police now are a company, a profit making company? That's why you've got all these speeding fines and things like that. And that's why they're not there to solve crime because it's costly solve solving crime. It's far more easier. They could knock on people's doors and arrest them for hate speech. They used to go and solve a crime. Well, I think Gaza is a perfect example of the police state Yeah. Where it's the applies to me, but not to the type of
[02:09:13] Paul Biener:
mentality where it's like Well, here, they used to have police cars called cruisers, and they had on them to protect and serve. They took to protect and serve off the cars, and they started labeling labeling them police, as in policy enforcement. Anyway, what I was getting to a moment ago is my karma ran over your dogma. Sorry.
[02:09:39] Paul English:
Paul, you can come again. That one. Yeah. We like that one. Over your dogma. Yeah. We like that. That.
[02:09:45] Eric:
Oh, we obviously do like that one. Yeah.
[02:09:48] Paul English:
What do we call that? A witticism? I quite like that. I quite like that witticism. That's very good. Yes. Yeah. In in the chat here and shout out to everybody in Rumble chat. It's quite lively as usual. I've just where's it gone now? Oh, apparently, XO writes, apparently, we have to report on pub conversations now also. Well, I didn't know that any were going on apart from, do you see the game last night, mate? Yeah. It was terrible. All that kind of stuff. Three pints of lager, please. Isn't that what goes on? Or am I being slightly too cynical?
[02:10:21] Patrick:
So maybe I'll just on here too. We would call them sports bars or just regular bar. Yeah. That's and same same deal. Sports.
[02:10:31] Paul English:
Oh, and, Maleficus is in the chat. Hi, Maleficus. Good to see you. And also, aunt Sally's managed to either get out of the bath or is about to get into the bath. I know there's always a lot of sort of bath things going with you, aunt Sally, on a Thursday evening. Why not? Everybody needs to be clean. After last week's talk. Yeah. It might be a bubble bath. Oh, no. You've just given an intro to Eric Steady, Patrick. Watch it. So Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh, no. I can't I do know a dirty joke about a girl getting out of a bath. No. Really? You knowing dirty jokes. I'm shocked. Really. Well, it's quite clean actually because no. I can't no. Sorry. It really isn't dirty. I can't say it. It's quite clean. She's in the bath. It's it's quite clean. She's in the bath. So how could it be a dirty joke? Alright. Alright. I'll I'll clean it up a little bit. What's the difference? No. I can't say it. No. Sorry. No. Don't say it. I'll tell you what, Eric. We'll have an executive committee meeting after the show, and we'll try and clear it through the sensors, through the internal Fockem Hall sensor board to see whether we can get you to say this on air or not. Because if it's if it's even got a hint of right wing, you're looking at eighteen months at least for jokes now. Jokes are gonna be out, aren't they? It's
[02:11:39] Eric:
not that. It's just that I'll tell you off air and, we'll see if it's alright for another week because you might get a lot of people chewing it off after it. I'm laughing. I've heard it before myself. You know?
[02:11:53] Paul English:
Maleficus writes, by the way, that they make £6,000,000 a day out of speeding fines in The UK. Yeah. Mhmm. Yeah. I wonder why So everybody stop driving so fast. Will you stop it, you maniacs, getting to places on time and things and going 32 miles an hour in a 30 mile an hour zone? What do you expect, you lawbreakers? God, you're absolute reprobates. Disgusting. Of course, he's very good at sums as well, aren't you, Millifigas? That's 18,000,000,000 a year. Isn't it just? I wonder what we could do with that. We could probably set up a good radio station with that. What do you think? Why can't they give it to us? Why don't can't we win the 18,000,000,000 speeding fine lottery every year? Oh, well.
There we go. Yeah. Brilliant stuff. Amazing.
[02:12:36] Eric:
Yeah. Do you know it's just that's police around. I used to see play Bobby's on the beat. You don't see any police on the beat at all now, do you? No. Nope. Have you no.
[02:12:46] Paul Biener:
No. Because it's because it's too dangerous for them to be out and about without their bulletproof cars.
[02:12:53] Patrick:
Yeah. Well, they have a they also have a lot of lady
[02:12:56] Paul English:
police over here, and they can't run. There shouldn't be frontline policemen just like they shouldn't be in the military doing these things. It's not good. There's a role for everybody, but this is DEI on steroids, which of course really is just cultural Marxism, isn't it? We all we all know that kind of stuff. Also, I'd like to make a little technical announcement now. We used to have this a year or so back but I seem to have it working anyway. If any of you want to use your telephones remember those? In fact, you probably all got one. Mobile phone, I guess. Maybe some people are listening on. You can call into the show. We've got another sort of sound studio here for taking in telephone calls And the numbers are actually running across the rumble screen and the YouTube screen and the DLive screen as I yak right now. And, so there's a US number and there's a UK telephone number. They should be just local calls or probably included in your plan. I sound like a bloody advert for a mobile phone company.
And there's a studio access code that you have to do 543-2323. Isn't that a lovely number? But there you go. We've got it up on the screen. You'll come in muted if you want to say anything. And it'd be great if you did and if you don't, I understand. But you can call in right now and bend our air about anything you like including bath time, old records from 1921, anything you like that we've touched upon or even something else. Speeding tickets. Speeding tickets are quite good. Maybe you've just got one today. You could call and tell us how much it was for. Anything like that. It's all it's all grist for the mill and we've got a knot we've got too much grist and not enough mill around here. So, there you go. Anyway, it's running across the screen. Do I announce this? Or If you're in if you're in let me do it try and do this. I've got to do it as a I've got to get a jingle for this. If you're in The UK, dial 03010616.
That's 03010616. If you're in The United States dial area code (712) 832-8330. That's (712) 832-8330, and when you get through you enter the studio access code 543-2323 and you'll come through to the studio. You'll be muted when you arrive, so don't worry we won't hear you straight away and you can dive out again. But go on give it a go if you feel like it. We'll see what it's like. And we'll we'll try if if this kind of works and we get some pick up of speed with this, we'll probably start lobbying this in in the third hour. And if we find that the calls are extremely dignified and decent, we might even do it earlier in the show at some point so that you can go out to all the much larger listening based on on the WBN part of the show, which is the first two hours. So there we go. Telephones.
[02:15:34] Eric:
How about that? And, don't don't ask don't ask people to, if they know the answer to the constipate your bigger joke and a girl coming out the bath joke. Of course, they're they're they're expensive, you see. So I'd be mentioning them at all, you say. I've heard the bigger joke before. Okay. You like that one? Yeah. Yeah. You like that one? Oh, actually, I can't I can't do the, girl getting out of the bar. Okay? Go on Monday. So I know that after me the Monday after. Why can't you do it on a Monday?
[02:16:02] Paul English:
What's wrong with Mondays? Well well, there's a young lady coming on on Monday, and I think Oh, I see. A bit blush. She might blush, you see. So Oh, we don't want that. Yeah. We don't want people blushing. Monday was always bath night for me when I was a kid. But actually, it wasn't a bath. Do you remember when you were really young? I used to get washed in the sink in the kitchen. Did you ever do that? Totally not. Yeah. I caught washing the sink. Those were the days. Stood up in the kitchen, buck naked as the day you were born. It was fantastic. Yeah. Come on. Get in that sink. Oh, don't worry. I think he's a bit too big for the sink now. I am. Can I have a bath?
So a lot of fun. Yeah. Cool.
[02:16:39] Patrick:
So I I asked deep seek oh, go ahead. Go ahead, Paul.
[02:16:43] Paul Biener:
You were in the sink because mama was a little too old to be bending over the tub. I
[02:16:51] Eric:
Tell me if we had washing powder, which is a little bit off topic. Do you remember washing powder that they don't have anymore in this country called Omo?
[02:17:02] Paul English:
Yes. O m o. Omo. Oh, yeah. That's the name of it. O m o.
[02:17:07] Eric:
Yeah. But what what what happened with me? We we used to have a song one called Flash. Remember Flash? There's a what's your name called Flash? Well, the floor cleaner. Straightened. Yeah. That was it. Floor cleaner. Well, I stood up once, and my neighbor took a look at me. So I grabbed the flash and shot, put it in front of me. Sorry. Terrible joke, isn't it?
[02:17:27] Patrick:
That that don't worry. Good one. No. Fums down for that one. Well well, hey. Get get this one, Eric. When I was in Russia, they had toilet paper there. Brand name was a s s o l e.
[02:17:43] Paul English:
I'm not joking you.
[02:17:45] Paul Biener:
Oh, I like
[02:17:47] Eric:
those Russians. Drink in France called pishit, p p p I s c h I t, Pishit.
[02:17:56] Paul Biener:
Hey. That's better than the Texan toilet paper that they had to take off the market because it wasn't about to take no crap off of nobody.
[02:18:06] Eric:
What about the Star Trek toilet paper? He gets all the Klingons out.
[02:18:12] Paul English:
Well well, everybody, you've been listening to Paul English Live, and now we've moved to the potty humor section of the show. It's only a matter of time before it devolves to potty humor. You know? I was trying to do something sensible. We're supposed to be grown ups around here. By the way, dear listeners, if you've got a potty joke that you want to tell live on air and you think you might be able to call in on this number, this is the potty joke line. So there we go. Yeah.
[02:18:39] Eric:
Well, it's not more than wise. They always used to end their show with a gag that they never caught to the punchline. Do you remember that? And it was two old men sitting in deck chairs. One says the other one, and he says, you can't say that. Bong. The show ended. Every week, it was like that.
[02:18:55] Paul English:
Never got to the punchline. I have. Yeah.
[02:18:58] Eric:
I happen to know the punchline because my uncles were comedians, and they knew the punchline. They knew it. Yeah. They do, actually. Yeah. I do know the punchline of that one. That's a bit bold, actually. Two old men sitting in deck chairs. One says the other one's nicer, isn't it? And the other one says, yeah. I think I'll get mine out.
[02:19:21] Paul English:
Anyway, where were where were we before we were so rudely interrupted by our own rudeness? I I just wanted to say this to Maleficus because You're quite on the mic, Patrick, just to let you know something. Let me back off. Let me back up. Yeah. Just a little. Sorry about that.
[02:19:36] Patrick:
It's okay. Okay. So, I I asked, DeepSeek how much money per day is collected in America for speeding tickets. And it says, well, an exact amount is amount isn't known, but here's an estimate. It's in billions of dollars annually. So according to this, in 2020, '6 billion per year nationwide, which amounts to about 16,400,000.0 per day
[02:20:01] Paul English:
dollars. Bloody hell.
[02:20:05] Paul Biener:
And that's how they're funding your local government.
[02:20:09] Patrick:
Yeah. Anyway,
[02:20:13] Paul English:
that's the answer to that. Warren writes here just to swiftly change things. He says, Great Britain is not a place or area. It is a nonce, single use expression, created when King James the sixth of Scotland became King James the first of England in sixteen hundred and three AD. But I'm always saying Great Britain, Warren. You're gonna have to take it up with me and correct me and tell me why I shouldn't say that. Of course, when are we Britons or is it Great Britain or whatever? By the way, I came across something here today. Actually, I mentioned I think pre show to you. Here we're going from the potty over to the serious history stuff again. I stumble across something, today called, what is it called? I've got it here.
The Greatest Things England Has Done for You and, yes, we're proud. So I'm sorry that it sounds like that but it's it's not done so much tongue in cheek. I just, it only went up on February. There's about seven or 8,000 views of this thing and I'm not playing the whole thing. It's twenty five minutes long. But, I'm I've got a book on the way tomorrow about the Crusades, which I'm very interested in in looking into because there is a perception about the Crusades that basically, Pope Urban the second just went: Right, lads. Get down there and have a fight and go kick 10 bells out of him. As if there was no real reason for it. And, this little presentation is about, the English. I'm sorry everybody but it is and this is, of course, now I'm just performing up to the WBN new subtext for the show, which is a very English show, which of course it is.
So if there's a few slightly offensive things in there, although he does it really well, but I just wanted to play these couple of minutes about his thing about the Crusades, and we could maybe talk about that because we're actually in one right now, as you well know. I'm just moving back out of humor, back into a bit of seriousness before we say goodbye for the evening. Listen to this. Let me see. I've got some volume on it. We'll just put it up. See what you think about this. Oh, I know why you can't hear it because I've muted the, I've muted the tab. Hang on. I'm quite good at this, aren't I? Just a minute. Here we go. Let's just wind it back just to the beginning again of this little section. I think here's your and decided to pillage the Middle East for fun.
[02:22:28] Unknown:
What they never mentioned is that the Crusades were not unprovoked. They were a response. For over four hundred years Islamic armies have been expanding relentlessly, swallowing up North Africa, Spain, and much of the Byzantine Empire. Christian lands fell one after another with their populations forced to convert, pay heavy taxes, or worse. Jerusalem, the holiest city in Christendom, had been under Muslim rule since June, and Christian pilgrims were regularly robbed, kidnapped, or murdered. So in October, Pope Urban the second finally had enough. He called for a crusade, a counter attack, and Europe answered the call. As historian Thomas f Madden put it, the crusades were in every way a defensive war. They were a direct response to Muslim aggression.
While the French led the first few crusades as inefficiently as possible, it wasn't long before England got involved. And when we did, we did it properly. No one did it better than King Richard the Lionheart. Richard wasn't just a king, he was a force of nature. A man who spent barely six months of his reign in England because he was too busy crushing armies abroad. During the third crusade, eleven of eighty nine to November, he faced off against Saladin, one of the greatest Muslim generals in history. At the Battle of Arsuf, Richard personally led a cavalry charge so devastating that it sent Saladin's forces running.
Even when outnumbered, Richard simply refused to lose. He was so effective that Saladin began to admire him. And when Richard fell ill, Saladin sent him ice and fruit, because nothing says I respect you like a medieval fruit basket. Richard wasn't just a warrior, he was a master diplomat. At one point, while negotiating peace, he casually suggested to Saladin's brother, why don't I just marry your sister and we call it a truce? When swords didn't work, Richard was happy to settle things with a royal wedding. But the crusades weren't just about fighting, they reshaped Europe.
Crusaders brought back medicine, science, philosophy, and engineering, sparking the renaissance. Trade exploded, linking Europe to Silk Road goods, exotic spices, and new technologies. War itself evolved as European armies adopted advanced siege tactics, cavalry formations, and new battle field strategies. Of course, modern critics love to moan about Crusader brutality as if medieval warfare was some polite tea party before the Christians showed up. The reality, every
[02:25:10] Paul English:
Oh, the reality is is that YouTube has failed on me, so I'm sorry about that, but there we go. There was something else I had here as well, which was an article on a site called alt-market.us which says, do we need a final crusade to save the Western world? Oh, it's back again. Hang on just a minute. Something's back. Gosh. I'm on tight. That's that's bad. Go away. I'm gonna have to strip these things out but let me go back to before I was so rudely interrupted. Do We Need a Final Crusade to Save the Western World by Brandon Smith. Some excellent points in here and it really reinforces just that little clip there, which is that, the cruise is completely misunderstood.
I'm gonna be reading up a bit on this. I'm gonna start peppering the show with a few sort of Crusader things. But I was wondering, Patrick, what with your knowledge of the history of the Catholic church, do you know anything much about the call from Pope Urban the second with regards to any of this?
[02:26:13] Patrick:
Not exactly Pope Urban the second, but I know about Saint Francis of Assisi. He ended up going to Egypt and, trying to sue for peace with, I think it was Saladin's nephew at the time. So there were, you know, church you know, actual saints that went over there to try to bring peace and and stability rather and and pill open up pilgrims pilgrim you know, make it safe for pilgrims to go back and forth from The Holy Land back into Europe. And there were all sorts of, articles written about it. I know that, Canterbury Tales is about, travelers that had gone to to the crusades and came back, and we're telling stories of that time period. Yeah. And, I I it definitely was meant as a way to keep the trade routes open and free from piracy and people trying to force convert them into, Islam and
[02:27:16] Paul English:
whatever else was going on there. Well, of course, it's not mentioned much over here because we we have to endure this nonsense. This, what did, David Starkey just call it? This we're suffering from a noble idea. The fact that everybody can get on and it's as I've mentioned here before, it's unnecessary and it's silly and history shows us this. But in this article, here's the last few paragraphs of it because I thought they they're quite interesting. He says, make no mistake, the enemy, that is the woke lot, has been trying to build their own religious empire. The woke movement is driven by self worship and the worship of bureaucratic power. Behind the curtain, they are not secular, and they have more zealotry than any cult in recent memory.
They claim to be atheistic and progressive in their principles, yet they happily ally with third world fundamentalists that hold completely contrary beliefs. Why? Because Islam is not a threat to their ultimate aims. Christianity is. If a new crusade were to happen, it would have to start here in America. However, if we were to take up the sword as it were, we can do so knowing we are not alone. There are millions upon millions of Westerners around the world that would welcome us. There is a deep desire in our society for a return to principles, a need for purity of purpose. I see it daily.
People are lost and they need a compass. The question is who will give it to them? The Luciferian globalists, the woke cultists, the Islamic horde, or us? I like this sentiment. I know it's, probably just called out the, right wing police department or something like that. So fifteen years, here we come. But I I I noticed this as well. It's very strange. If we'd have talked about this even three or four years ago, and of course there's a worry in there as well. I've got concerns about it because, the idea of certain aspects of the way people have expressed Christian things in the past is a concern to me, and no doubt to others as well. But there is a need for a unifying banner under which we can come. It actually exists. We're just being blocked from sort of rallying to it, you know, the inhibition of speech or the censorship of speech being the most powerful weapon they've got. Because once that's out of the grasp, this thing I suspect will go like wildfire because we all know that we're sitting on it.
And on on Rhea Bow's show, this week on WBN on the Sunday, she played a clip. I was gonna play in this show, but I I won't it's from a a discussion about a book called Private Truths, Public Lies, and it's to do with the way that people are, it was looking at communist states and how everybody knows what the truth is, but the party line is you can't say it. So it builds up, as you imagine, this dysfunctional space, and we are having it built up rapidly around us here. It's very un British, not to offend you, Warren. It but it is. It's not right. It's not sound. And we're being sort of they you know, if we go back to the Trump thing earlier on the show, we're being given certain things that we all want to see, one step forward, but being pushed two steps back the next day with this nonsense and blather.
And, I think it's a salient point. I mean, I think there are there would be ways of of of getting Europe back to how it needs to be, but we're gonna have to think rather cannily about how we do it because it's gonna be impossible if we're not allowed to speak. It's gonna be very very difficult. Maybe we have to develop telepathic skills or just all go to prison and it happens from there. All that said, I'm not massively or, you know, relentlessly pessimistic about this Because the fact that these discussions and these articles, like the one I've read, and that clip, even though it buggered up, are are coming up is indicative of a hankering for this purpose. It's there and we absolutely want it back and it will I'm convinced it will come back. I'm convinced it's actually on its way back. It's just that nobody knows quite how to read it because it it's not easily recognizable. But I've got a feeling very much, certainly, you know, like I was saying from bumping into people in the street and everything, but it's on its way. And, it's it's required because I think nature is gonna give it to us. It's gonna give us that sense of purpose whether people are gonna resist it or not. I think it's on its way back. I think it's inevitable, really.
[02:31:34] Patrick:
Well
[02:31:35] Paul Biener:
Yeah. Leave us hope that we don't develop telepathy. And if we do, we don't say anything about it because thoughtcrime Mhmm. Would be the next step, and there is absolutely no way to defend against that accusation.
[02:31:53] Paul English:
No. There isn't. Well, I mean, there's there's we're almost defenseless in so many other ways at the moment. I suppose if we get those little neural chips and they'd be able to make you think things and say we know you thought this because we've got a recording of it. So you thought this and so it's off to the jolly old gulag in Barnsley for you my lad or wherever they're gonna put these things up. But, of course, me saying this stuff is actually part of the problem because I'm sort of like talking us back into that space. I do think there's a way through. I don't know exactly what it looks like, but it is about sort of igniting that fire. I've mentioned this before in every single one of us. And of course, we all have days where it's sputtering a bit, I assume, if you're anything like me. And we have other days where we do feel on fire, and we're looking for other people to build that that momentum in conversation going forward. So it's gonna be required. And coming back to that thing about parishes and local connections, that will be the places, I hope and believe, where it will start to happen again.
So, but I just wanted to point a good word for the crusaders, you see, including to myself because we get you don't realize to somebody until you start looking at these things and stand back. The degree to which we are continually bombarded with a negative view of ourselves, I know many people here on Rumble are aware of that. But even so, having a support group like this, you know, you could view it like that, a growing team, hopefully, you know, of listeners and influencers and contributors is all part of that parcel part and parcel of of of keeping this on track and seeing it grow. And I'm sure, even though we've said some rather rude things about them, the same pertains to most Frenchmen and to most Germans and the people of Scandinavia and Italy and and the like. And if we can find ways to look at one another as allies properly for the first time ever ever, maybe, other than, say, the Crusades themselves, which is a long time ago. It's a thousand years back, really.
Then we're we're back on track, but this it's gonna be a bit weird as well, I suspect, along the way.
[02:33:51] Patrick:
Mhmm. Yeah. I there's a thing that happened around the time of the crusades I remember reading about called the Children's Crusade. Have you heard of that where a bunch of children, I think it was in Germany, were convinced by this kind of, like, youthful leader who was just a child himself. And thousands, if not tens of thousands, of children went to the Middle East to help with the Crusades. Mhmm. And and ended up being enslaved. It was it's quite it was quite the thing. Right. The the the thing of it is, just like in warfare, they they use religion as a means of getting people to go to war.
Of course. Just like in World War one, World War two, they have their clergy paid off and ready to go. And, the the other ones, they blackmail or they find some way to defame them to the point where you just don't pay attention to the the people that are against the war and the clergy. So it's developing that discretion where you can see the difference. And that's kind of why people have such a negative attitude towards Christianity, and they don't see it as a solution to the problem. And then that's built up in the propaganda that comes out because they know you need institution institutional power in order to go after an institution.
And Mhmm. You're dealing with is in, you know, the the the state, the military, whatever it happens to be, you know, called at the time. You need that religious aspect of it because, ultimately, families, entire races of people are guided by religion. Whether whether it's Christianity, paganism, Judaism, or some other sort of heretical type of thing with Islam. And Yep. That's that's what we get. We need we need, discretion.
[02:36:07] Paul English:
Well, we do. That's
[02:36:08] Patrick:
a
[02:36:09] Paul English:
We do. I mean, I'm not Yeah. We do. Yeah. It's it's a it's a difficult path to tread, but, it it is. I can see, you know, I'm aware of many of the arguments against all of these sorts of things. I've sort of voiced them myself. I'm very concerned about organized religions as such, but there has to be a unifying factor, and it's our heritage whatever people may think about it, the fact is that all of the white Western nations are Christian in the sense by virtue of the root of the law that they use. Of course, we would argue here that common law is the best expression of that and I I believe that as well. But that's not that's not the point. The point is that the entire sort of, you know, even our ability to argue with with one another is gonna be removed. We won't even be able to have the fun of teasing the French anymore, Eric, which would be a great shame.
And they won't have the opportunity to call us the roast beefs or whatever they used to call us, you know. I don't mind. All that kind of stuff's fun in a way. And, of course, it was used in the past as we know, certainly last century, to set us at one another's throats and have brothers wars, which are just nuts. But I mean even coming back to the thing with the picture for the show, their communication back then at Townton and throughout that whole period was to communicate by loosing off hundreds of thousands of arrows at one another. Which isn't, you know, the other week but at Townton, just to wind it all the way back, in the first thirty minutes of the exchange of the archers, there was something like 400,000 arrows flew through the air. That's a lot. Oh, were they Christian?
Were they Christian at the time? One side more Christian than the other? Or No. It was nothing to do with that. It was nothing to do with that. Now, well, the whole country was Catholic at the time. Would have been under Catholic church. It's 1461 at the time. Same time they they they devolved into that. Well, it'd been going on for a long time. The history of these islands is basically a lot of punch ups, putting it mildly. A lot. But, I mean, you know, if you if you look at the Tudors, that period of history and the same thing was going on in Europe with the thirty year war and all this kind of stuff and other things. There's just a lot of it going on. My I don't know if I'd mentioned the other week my my son's view was the reason it was like that is there's just an awful lot more testosterone around. I think he's probably probably right, you know.
But the the capacity to wage war has not left us, and I'm not I'm not for it. I think it's just complete nonsense, but, it sometimes become unavoidable if you're gonna get bullied to a point where you can't live. You just go, that's it. I don't have any choice left now. You've taken and that this is why the removal of the free speech stuff is part of that process to push us, I think, into that space. I mean, if they were loosing arrows off of one or that was their way of communicating their intent, we could do it with words. But if we're denied a place to do it and ears that are able to listen to it, which is generally the case certainly within the completely hijacked political so called elites and all their minions.
You know, they're controlling the space by literally denying us a voice. We haven't got one. So we can't we don't actually interact with them. It's just a communications manhandling process. Everybody can see this. Our current prime minister in that regard is a great boon. I mean, he's, you know, he's probably one of the finest examples of someone who is literally never going to listen to anything that's said to him. I don't know whether he confuses that and thinks that that's a strength, but it's not. It's an imbecilic weakness and it's very dangerous and it marks him out as an oath, which is what he is, you know. He's just a box ticking. He's not he's obviously not stupid from a law point of view, but in terms of understanding human beings and what a normal person actually requires, I. E. Leave us alone, stop interfering, the the globalist agenda is the complete opposite of that. You are not fit to make decisions about your life. We basically own you. You are useless eaters. We're gonna feed you worms. We're gonna get Bill Gates to trot out all this nonsense and you're just gonna sit there and take it. And, excuse me, This comes down in part again to that revelation of the method principle that Michael Hoffman so excellently articulated a long time ago in the essay, which is that it creates this condition in the people of a bullia, a listless willness. We we have no will.
And you've got to fight against that if that's the right word. You've got to be conscious that that's what's going on. And, of course, they just wear you out. And it means the problem is and this is one of the reasons as well I think about the fear when we were talking earlier about being swamped with all of this stuff all the time. You actually become part of a process of becoming like your own mental jailer when you pass this stuff on. There's a part of it. Get a little bit of it, but the bulk of what we need to refocus on is more constructive things of standing with people locally and getting that energy going so that people say we can, at a local level, defend ourselves and go back to what we want. And as I've also mentioned, I don't think we're very good at defending either. I'm just about to instantaneously contradict myself. I think we are yearning for that purpose that we see maybe in the past was there. Yes. It's been abused.
Yes. Religions have got a hold of it and got meant to pointlessly and you know, hellishly kill one another. But we have to act in some way. If we do nothing, it's absolutely inevitable what's gonna happen because it's happening incrementally and with ever increasing speed every day of our lives, you know. I mean, it's it's so fast, I think, the degree to which the Trump bubble has burst. When we did the thing on Trump a few weeks ago when he came in, I was kind of playing the role of, oh, well, you know, it might be quite good because I wanted to. Let's be optimistic,
[02:42:00] Patrick:
but it's just gone. I I mean, it's just to me, it's just totally gone. It's a joke now. I I don't know. I I I wish I could say that it has gone. Mhmm. But I listened to callers in the RBN, for instance. Yeah. What A lot of the same the same, characters that were all for Trump are still all for Trump. It's like, oh, it's it's like the Q thing. Remember the Q Yeah. Conspiracy as they're called. Trust the plan. Trust yeah. Well, that's what it is. It's Q tards. Yeah. Or the Trump tards now. It's it's trust the plan. He's playing four d chess. That's he's, you know, he's He's kneejos.
Yeah. He's just gonna keep keep going at it until he rounds up all the criminals and deports them to Cuba,
[02:42:45] Paul English:
and and it ends up being
[02:42:47] Patrick:
just promises. And and by the end of the term, you're you know, you've got January 6 or something like that taking place where it's, like, ready to break out in the civil war.
[02:42:57] Paul English:
Well, you only have to look at who he's pardoned. You only have to look at who he's pardoned. And didn't he pass some kind of criticism about Netanyahu in December or whatever? And then there he is, you know, all kissy kissy with him. It it's just but I knew that was gonna come. Well, I didn't know it was gonna come, but I suspected very much that it would. And so, you know, here we are looking at the whole thing. And since 1945, on both sides of the pond, every single well, not every single leadership, but the bulk of them have been completely compromised. They're actually traitorous to the people that they say they represent and that they're gonna manage their nation on behalf of. They're not doing that and of course, ultimately we now got to the point where most people can see that these people are not the ones in charge. Like I'm saying, it's absolutely hilarious that I have to quote Liz Truss of all the people. But she seems to be the only one recently that I can think of that looks as though she had a plan to do something directly for the people of these islands. And of course Biblical that women That's why she didn't last. If good men do nothing, women and children will lead them as a punishment.
[02:44:03] Patrick:
Yeah. The Bible is biblical. I think in Isaiah, it talks about that. Does it? Well, there we go. We, yeah, and this okay. So coming up this next Sunday is the Super Bowl. Trump's gonna be there. Yay. It's gonna be a big crowd. The biggest the biggest television event in the world as far as the Ever. People watching it Yep. Ever. Mhmm. And what it is is it's gonna be you're they're these things are, put up by the military to get people rah rah, let's go to war type of thing. Recruit they spend a lot of money in our military budget on these sports games as a way to divert people's attention and but also to recruit people into going to war.
And I find it very interesting that the person who started the Super Bowl, his name was Lamar Hunt, and his father was H. L. Hunt Yep. Who was the the one who supplied the allies with all of their oil, which and and petroleum, which they making, you know, manufacturing everything in America, that ended up going overseas to to supply with the lend lease and and all of that. And he was the richest man in America at the time that that was occurring. So it's all calculated. It's all part of the whole system, and it's just interesting how people just don't get it, and they just wanna be entertained. It's the same old Roman bread and circuses to keep people distracted.
[02:45:37] Paul English:
Well, maybe I mean, it just appears to have always been like that. Bringing them to war. Yeah. The great mass, like that. And I think, and yet, maybe they're not. I hate even speaking like that. It it, you know, it's like, you almost end if you think like that to me, you end up like them. A kind of disdain for your fellow man, and I don't have that. I mean, I've met plenty of real fast Englishmen that I don't wanna spend time with and so I didn't. But I've, you know, the bulk of the people I meet are just for me fantastic, and I mean that. And, because, you know, this is the hand I got dealt. It's the hand that they got dealt. I turned up at that pub one day or whatever, you know. It's called life and it's living and it's got all these subtle wonderful things in it which of course they're gonna be they will go, when you affect the way that people want to live and express themselves. No matter how foolish you may think it is, we have to sort of live and express ourselves some way.
And of course they're saying, well we know how you ought to do that and this is the only way and this is the best way to do it and you're gonna do it best and everything's gonna improve because of that. Well it isn't. Life is absolutely messy, in all of that. And I'm reminded of this little quote from Edmund Burke. It's not the most famous one he's known for but this is spot on. He said, they never will love where they ought to love, who do not hate where they ought to hate. And, of course, people are terrified of hatred because it's hate crime. Right. Hate crime is now one of the Marxist trigger words, hate crime. And if you look up the word hate, it says a strong aversion to or dislike of. A strong aversion to or dislike of. I don't know anybody that doesn't hate something or some moment or at times even the behavior of some people. This is true. Some people get mistaken, of course, eternally hate people or some people for their entire life, which of course is exhausting and it's like acid in the system and it kills you. It does you in. You can't do that. But there's absolutely justified reasons why you would hate a thing, have a stronger version thing, because it's impinging on your values. It's destroying the quality of your life. Something that you're trying to build up. Someone turns up goes 'ah, just knock all that over'. I didn't invite them to knock it over. I didn't invite these people or whoever they may be to behave in that way and so things kick off. So, I mean, you know, we are suppressed in a in a huge sort of way. Maybe things will kick off at the Super Bowl. Maybe there'll be some colossal, bonkers event. I mean, what a great way to distract people even further. And should we all really look forward eagerly to the halftime entertainment, chaps? What do you think?
[02:48:16] Paul Biener:
We certainly do know that the halftime entertainment will be demonic. We know that. But there is one other thing that the Super Bowl is that I don't know if if we've touched on it yet. It is the biggest ad revenue day of the year. Mhmm. Yeah.
[02:48:36] Patrick:
They spend they spend millions per second on these advertisements that you'll see.
[02:48:44] Paul English:
Yeah. They do.
[02:48:46] Patrick:
Indicative of our culture, though, unfortunately. And it it's all about prestige and and who has the best. It's all it's all kind of a corrupted capitalism.
[02:48:57] Paul English:
So it says here for advertising revenue, brands paid, this may be for last year, Super Bowl commercials. Brands paid between 7 and $8,000,000 for thirty seconds of national airtime. Do you think the show could afford that? If we all chip in lads by Sunday, what do you think? Get a thirty second advert on the Super Bowl. It's only $8,000,000. It's obviously worth it to them. How many thirty second that's the I mean, I have to tell you as an English person, I've sometimes tried to watch it. It's very difficult because the stop start nature of it drives me a bit batty.
But there also there seem to be so many stops in it. And I guess is that for the commercial purposes? They say you must have 35 stops because we've got to release commercial. Yeah. So they're wiring something down to the ref. Can you just pull it up in the next ten seconds? We've got to run a break. I don't know. I mean Timeouts. Yeah. That's why college football is more interesting because they don't take those commercial timeouts. At least they used used to not Mhmm. Do that.
[02:49:59] Patrick:
So you you you have a point there with that because
[02:50:02] Paul Biener:
it it does take away from the game. It ends up becoming a commercialized thing, and it's like you But they take they take time outs whether they need commercials or not. They could be forty five seconds left left on the clock. You can walk away for an hour, come back, and they still haven't blown the final whistle yet.
[02:50:25] Paul English:
I watched a film last night, that I've watched years ago, a movie. It's quite old now. I suppose it's forty years back with Robert Wright called The Natural, which is about a baseball player. I don't know if you've ever seen it. It's a very nostalgic sort of film. I didn't grow up in America at that time, but I I get all the signals, all the cues from the way of life and from the architecture and from the nature of the clothing. There's echoes in England at the same time. It's not on the same scale but there's that kind of feeling about it and, it's a very romanticized, sort of view of baseball and it's got a sort of Greek tragedy type element wound into the storyline which gives it a kind of resonance if you're into that kind of thing. But, I just found it quite refreshing. I mean I've seen it a few times because I the only the American sport that I did like a lot was baseball. But, when you compare any not just that, but old time sports with currently what's going on. Yet, again, this is the middle aged farts club and I'm quite happy to be a founder member of it in this regard.
There's something really gone missing, and when you were talking about college football, that something is still there, it seems to me. Some of that is still there. A sort of a community connection, something a little bit more playful, and it's, it's difficult to relate to this thing. But no doubt, on Monday, most of the posts we're gonna get will be about the satanic halftime worship thing. How long does that last? Is that thirty minutes or something? It's sort of inordinately long, isn't it? Yeah. Yeah. Yes. It's at least half hour.
[02:52:09] Paul Biener:
Anyone remember George Carlin's, routine baseball and football?
[02:52:15] Paul English:
Well, I don't think it is that. What did you send me? I've got it here. It's I'm ready to play it when it comes up. It's No. I actually I actually have it right here. Oh, alright. It's George Carlin from Carlin on campus, 1984
[02:52:26] Paul Biener:
baseball and football. It's two minutes and forty seconds. There's no time for
[02:52:31] Paul English:
it. Well, I was gonna play Patrick's now. Maybe Alright. Yeah. Is that okay? Sorry. I'll play Patrick's at the end because we're getting towards the end of the show. I'm gonna try and wrap up at eleven. We never no. If I play this song, we will. So it's three minutes long. So if I start playing in four minutes time, everybody's keen to hear all this kind of stuff. We'll we'll make it to the I'm trying to keep it under three hours. I don't know why. I just think I have to try and have some discipline around this thing instead of it dribbling on forever. Quite a little bit. To the chat, by the way. Quick who'll be watching over in The UK? Will any of you be getting up and watching the Super Bowl? I thought I'd ask a trivial, stupid, vacuous question, you know, just so you can answer. Anybody watching it? What time does it start?
Is it 01:00 in the morning for us? There's no way I'll be watching that. I couldn't possibly watch it. I don't know what where is it taking place, Patrick? Anybody know? Does it matter? I don't know. It's on a football pitch somewhere. It's on a field I haven't watched the Super Bowl in years. Maybe we should just all watch it. I don't know. Maybe it'll be fantastic. I don't mean for the No. No. No. It's not gonna be that, is it? I I guess we'll get to see the halftime entertainment on Monday. Someone will there'll be probably some vicious review of it. In fact, everywhere we'll be gearing up to get it on their YouTube channels as soon as you can go. So we'll be overloaded by Monday afternoon with that stuff, I would have thought. So I'll be able to find it out secondhand, which will be marvelous. Yeah. Absolutely marvelous. In
[02:53:52] Paul Biener:
in lieu of George Carlin's, bid on baseball and football Yeah. Basically, what football always has been. I mean, baseball has always been like this happy go lucky and, you know, fun afternoon, played in a park, a baseball park, played on a diamond, a baseball diamond. Football has always been a game of war. It's played on a gridiron, in a stadium, war memorial stadium, and is is and it always has been a means of initial training for military service, and it's and it was presented as a game. But that's all it is. It's play war.
[02:54:38] Paul English:
Yep. Well, they are like that. They're territorial, aren't they? XO, by the way, has put us out of our misery with regards to the location. It's gonna be in New Orleans. He says, even I know that, and I hate sport. Well, it's just got in there. Okay. Well, thank you. That's it. You've you've been got XO. You've been brainwashed. It's gone right in there. So there we go. Yep. Well, there we go. Of course, we're viewing it through a different lens. We're not bothered about the sporting competition. That's not what we're talking about and all that kind of stuff. But as an event, everybody's event attention's gonna be on it. All that money on the advertising. Donald Trump, the first president ever to go there. Maybe he'll make some political announcement before the game. I don't know.
I'm And maybe his trousers will fall down. Eric, will you be getting up and watching it?
[02:55:25] Eric:
I very much doubt it. Really? I I'm, no. Well, I mean, it's, to me, it's about as interesting as watching wood warps. I'm not really interested.
[02:55:36] Paul English:
I I wonder what they're going to be talking about and passing in in government while people are busy not watching c SPAN but watching the game. Yeah. How many bombs will drop over the Yeah. There's one. Whilst you were watching the Super Duper Pooper Bowl, this was going on. Yeah. It'll be Wait. We're ruining your life. A bit even more than we usually do. We really got to move on and these things have all been happening overnight. Well, yeah. I guess we gotta look at anyway, we're at the end of the show guys. If I'm gonna try and wrap up inside the and of course, I'm gonna go a few seconds over. Any last words? Anybody want to reenact the Battle of Townton with real ammo? No? Put your head down and your powder dry. That's it. That's the one.
[02:56:18] Patrick:
Any last words, Eric? Keep it up keep it up. Well, thank everybody,
[02:56:23] Eric:
thank everybody in chat. It'd be very interesting. And, also, I might, if we can modify, I might crack the lady getting out the bath gag. So there we go.
[02:56:36] Paul English:
Okay. Fantastic. That's brilliant. Next week, by way of promo, it is February, which is the eightieth anniversary. I mentioned this last week of, the first day of Dresden, which ran for three days, thirteenth, fourteenth, and fifteenth. Monica Schafer will be here. Dennis Wise may well be here. This is not because he can't make it, but because we're just gonna juggle about where he appears on some shows. So I'll let you know during the week in the telegram group. We might get them both on at the same time or whatever. We I don't know quite what we're gonna do but I'll be having a chat with Dennis in the next few days. It won't be just Dresden solid for three hours but we will be talking it'll be a heavily historical sort of thing. We'll be looking at that the implications for today which is really what's the important thing, what it signifies.
And of course, it's only a few weeks since, the Holocaust show that we did, which wasn't really about the Holocaust. It was really about can we actually even talk about the Holocaust? Is it possible to talk about it in an intelligent sort of way with all these restrictions? The answer being, of course, no. It isn't. But we touched upon it in that way. So thanks everybody in the chat. Hopefully, you'll join us next week. I think it'll be quite a chunky show. It will be, you know, a more studious sort of thing to our usual although no doubt there'll be a few laughs and there's no reason why a toilet joke or two can't get in later on in the show. I'm sure they might find a way of creeping in there. So my fellow, yeah, my fellow archers, thank you very much for this evening's show for being here. It's been wonderful.
We're gonna play you out with George Carlin and, we'll be back again next week with, Monica Schafer, probably Dennis Wise, and we'll be looking at Dresden. Keep well, and we'll see you in a week's time.
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[02:59:06] Unknown:
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[02:59:20] Unknown:
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[03:00:44] Unknown:
want no job neither.
[03:00:52] Unknown:
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[03:01:06] Unknown:
but we never play it.
[03:01:14] Paul English:
George, Carlin, everyone. We'll be back again next week. Have a cracking week. See you next Thursday. Bye for now.
Introduction and Show Overview
Radio Broadcasting and Personal History
Discussion on Freedom and Citizenship
Historical Work Hours and Modern Society
Propaganda and Economic Shifts
Expatriation Act and Citizenship Debate
Listener Interaction and Passport Advice