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[00:00:05] Business Cat:

You have found yourself right back here at the Rock Paper Bitcoin podcast.   It's me, your very best friend on the Internet,   Business Cat.   How are you?   I'm so glad you're back. This   has been an interesting pat like, 2 weeks.   2025 is here, man.   And it's roaring.   If you're enjoying the content that Fundamentals and I are putting out there, you can support us by listening with any podcasting 2.0 enabled application.   Something like Fountain FM, you can pick a sad amount per minute listened and zap it our direction.   We don't have any sponsors because we are entirely supported by listeners like you.  

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This was a bonkers conversation.   So, let's get into   it.   So I'm thinking of a number between   121.   Yeah. Read read my mind.  

[00:01:37] Unknown:

Read your mind?   Well, let's see. Are we in the real number system? Are we in the integer system, natural number system? Oh, boy. This is already going off the rails.  

[00:01:46] Business Cat:

Just a regular number. 1 I never It's a whole number between 121.  

[00:01:51] Unknown:

A whole number between 12. A rational whole number. It's only it's obviously 17.  

[00:01:57] Business Cat:

Well, alright. So that's not the number I was saying.   So dear listeners, I've been listening to   so I heard I heard this first on,   the Rogan podcast whenever he was talking to Duncan Duncan Trussell, and Duncan mentioned it. And then somebody in our in our chat group, Shadrach, he also mentioned it. And I was like, alright. I gotta listen to that. The tele the, telepathy teams   have been blowing my mind the past couple days.   And yeah. So, I mean, telepathy is real and non nonverbal   autistic people. The claim is that every single nonverbal autistic person is capable of this,   And these these tapes are   is this woman who went around and interviewed a bunch of   kids and parents who, like, their kids can read their brains, and it's dude, it's blowing my mind so much. Test for autism? Is it, like, a way to test? Well, see, that's this is a good like, there's so many like, we've joked, like, oh, yeah. We're we're autistic. It's like or, like, I I know I've joked before about the we've joked about the superpower. I don't know if I did it on this show. Maybe it was with the bugle, but we talked about how it was a superpower,  

[00:03:01] Unknown:

how the over diagnosis   of autism is like, is like emperor Palpatine looking for force sensitive, looking for the people who are gonna overthrow.   They're like they're looking for the people who are gonna overthrow the government. Anyone who's a moderate threat to be autistic needs to be identified.  

[00:03:17] Business Cat:

Yeah. Right. So it's it's look I mean, it's like what's the, savant? It's like this is kind of in the realm of this, like, savant who are really capable of one specific thing. But not like a Rubik's cube with one hand in 2 and a half seconds. We're talking about,   you know, we're talking about other skills. Well, I mean, I guess the overtube and right. It's like everything is is on a spectrum. So the question   is, okay. Well,   the people that are calling themselves, oh, self diagnosed   autistic, I'm gonna guess you're at the far end of non non Truly. Ability to, read minds.   So, I mean, we're we're like I don't believe yeah. I don't believe,  

[00:03:56] Unknown:

I don't believe I can read minds. I you know what? I can read the body language. That's kind of like reading somebody's mind if they're stupid. I mean, you know what? I think it's   continue   before yeah. Let let's let's let's continue.   Okay. The You got right into this. You basically this is like  

[00:04:13] Business Cat:

the earliest you jumped right into the topic. Dude, I mean, this is a new attack vector for Bitcoin. It's, like, I've never I've never thought about the idea  

[00:04:22] Unknown:

of having to protect my my seed phrase from somebody who can read my brain. So, like, Kylo Ren when, you know, when he and you see this. I I guess Star Wars is the only place I've ever really seen this   dramatized.   I where he puts his hand over her fucking head and starts reading her reading her thoughts. Okay. Well, I mean, it's I think it's   less malicious. Parents, you know, oh, I didn't know you felt that way about your parents who left you. Wow. You know? Well, it's okay. Well, it turns out he's lying to her, so I don't think he was able to read her brain. So when I was thinking about when you asked me the number, like, I was wondering how quick how long it would take me to gaslight you into   convincing you the number was 17.  



[00:05:02] Business Cat:

You're not gonna   very, very short amount of time. My daughter tried to do a similar thing. So, like, as my wife and I are both listening to the series, and it's blowing both of our brains, and it's absolutely making me look at my children different. Like, my children are not autistic,   but I'm still now, like Yet. I'm, like, holding my like, I'm picturing a number, like, Eleanor. What number am I thinking of? And she 1. Nope. 2. Nope. She just she just she is approaching it, but I was gonna brute force this going through.  

[00:05:30] Unknown:

I so I so here's the thought I had. This is weird. I'm gonna take you back to,   1996.   I remember the year, and it's a conversation I had with one of my closest friends.   We were having a part. We there were 3 of us. Like, we 3 of us were, like, best friends. And the other one,   we we there's, like, a graduation party he had at his house. His parents were gone. Had a big party at his house, and my friend   broke something in the house.   K.   Like, 3 months later when his mom returned from wherever the hell she was, right,   notices the thing was broken and immediately blamed   the right person.  

Okay. Like, immediately blamed the correct person. Like,   she's like, oh, this was   this was this guy. Right? Just boom. Not even hesitated.   And my friend got so insulted. This was like a George Costanza moment because it was like he was so insulted   that she would blame him for it. She was like, how how could she possibly   know? Right? How is this possible? And I remember asking her, like, is it possible that she really knows because it actually happened?   Like,   that's the reason she knows because it actually happened and somehow she's just tapped in   she's just tapped into exact you know, like, maybe we can tap into the truth.  

People have a natural ability to tap into the truth probably under really ideal circumstances. Like, you have to be a truthful person. You probably have to be a certain kind of person to tap into it or have that open mind. All parents can kind of read their their kids to some degree. But this is not her kid. This is some other kid. She just it's almost like it's like a force power or some kinda like other I'm sure there's some other TV show where the cop touches the thing and knows exactly who fucking touched it before. You know? She was like,  

[00:07:15] Business Cat:

oh, Jared broke this thing. Why did he do you know, there were there were hundreds of people in and out of this house Sure. While she was gone. Right. This is the same kind of thing of, like, you're thinking of somebody and then they call. Or, like, this is one of the so there's verbal cues and there's nonverbal cues, and then there's potentially extrasensory   cues, which is what we're talking about with telepathy.   And, like, nonverbal cue for for people who are not   who are up in the brain and they're they're not paying attention to things and they're not not paying attention to, like, you what your,   what your gut instinct is telling you, that that kind of stuff. Like, you're gonna ignore a lot of nonverbal cues. But like like picture, like, you've seen pictures of guilty dogs. Like, somebody records their dog. Like, which one of you destroyed this sofa? And one dog is, like, you're, like, all happy and then the other dog is very obviously guilty. Like, that's kinda, like, we are all like that to some degree. Which one of you took this shit right right here in the middle of the room? Right. And one dog has his, like, head down. It's like it's under his paw. It's like, I wonder which one did it. Like, I I know both of you very well, and I can I can tell   magically? You're not telling me what happened, but I can tell what happened just by reading the body language of these two animals. It's like, is this that  

[00:08:21] Unknown:

or I mean, so so this Why are we being, like, why are we being shown   shows   about this? This is another question I guess I would have.   Because when I start watching this, and I will, I know that's gonna be my question. Why are we being told this is a thing? Well, I mean, the thing like, this goes back  

[00:08:39] Business Cat:

we have been there's been leaks about telepathy   claims about telepathy my entire life, and I've just   ignored them. So, I mean, I feel like maybe   maybe we're being shown this right now, like, quote, unquote shown this right now. I don't think we're being shown it. I mean, maybe society at large is ready to digest this finally, and it's just it just happened. I'm guessing we have one guy in our audience who I would just guess is already  

[00:09:04] Unknown:

super rabbit holed on this topic, our boy, Redtail Hawk. It was quite quite possible. Guess just a guess that, you know, he would have we'll see. Well, I'm baiting him back into the telegram by saying that we'll see. This is a test to see if he has the telepathy to listen to this episode if he's maybe, you know, we haven't seen him in a while. Hey, mister Hawk. So we're putting it out there right now.  

[00:09:27] Business Cat:

Hey, bud. One of the claims of telepathy.   One of these so one of these,   telepathic kids that is interviewed on the show makes the claim that, like, every nonverbal,   autistic person is capable of this even if they have not presented it.   And it's like one of the things they do, they have a they have a this is this   skill is  

[00:09:49] Unknown:

unbothered by physical by physicality. So these kids can read their mom's brains Can you define that's yeah. I was gonna say can you now like define  

[00:09:57] Business Cat:

what telepathy, like say, is and isn't? Well, it's kind of maybe it's shared consciousness.   May maybe it's,   like, so so some of these kids can only read, like, their mom's brains or and then some of these kids can read anybody in their family's minds. And then other there's other kids they get into where,   anybody near them, like, they they, like, these autistic kids will freak out when they go in public because it's it's too loud. They're hearing everything from everyone around them. Yeah. And so, like, there there's a big, like, variability   on  

[00:10:29] Unknown:

the capacity of these. And, like, the fact that most most It's like the next generation episode with when Troy was able to hear all these people's pain and Yeah. And she couldn't sleep because of it? Gotta bring gotta bring next gen in when we can.  

[00:10:42] Business Cat:

So I I feel like I I know several autistic people. I don't think I I know any nonverbal autistic people, but I know   several verbal autistic people. And this immediately is go like, next time I'm around them, I'm going to be thinking   very kind thoughts and, like, I what are you aware of? When what can you see? But anyway, so the so the so some of these kids can read their mom's brains, like, across the room. By nonverbal, you mean wonderful.   Wonderful. Yeah. Like, they don't they don't talk and then My both my both my children were diagnosed with speech delay.  

[00:11:13] Unknown:

And like in the moment I was telling my wife   enjoy it   and yeah I wasn't really just being funny like I meant it like you know everybody wants their kids to talk and be normal and all that stuff but man   you know,   that it is, you know, I mean, I I think I might have been tapping into something that, you know, there is something special.   I've there's Thomas Sowell has a book about,   speech to lay children   probably worth digging up and maybe   reading now in the context of this conversation, but, like,   this speech delay which   speech delay, nonverbalness,   autism,   dyslexia. There's a whole slew of, like, disorders   that kids supposedly have, and they turn out to be superpowers.  



[00:12:04] Business Cat:

Like, truly superpowers. Right? And Well, I mean, like, low level autism makes you immune from propaganda, essentially. So, like, that's a superpower  

[00:12:13] Unknown:

in in modern life. And it's the superpower needed in this world.   Right? Like, oh, you're just not gonna fall for all of the fucking lies,   you know. Now what autism doesn't do is overcome censorship.   Right? So you need someone else who, like, can, like, dig in a rabbit holes. Right? Who's you need, like, to team up with someone who's not autistic but has the superpower of digging in rabbit holes   and uncensoring shit. Right? And maybe this is, like, reading people's minds. Telepathy is a way of overcoming censorship. I mean, I think of these these telepathic kids as, like, these are, like, artillery pieces,  

[00:12:47] Business Cat:

is on, like, a game on on a war field, on a strategic map. It's like Stratego.   You cannot like, you have some pieces that are incredibly powerful   at range, but they are not capable up close of any sort of, like,   point defense combat. So, like, these kids are essentially   wizards who are capable of moving mountains. In fact, like, they have   they have, a telepathic chat room that they all go to and hang out and talk to each other across in in the world. Like, they call what they he called it, like, the mountain or the hill or something. Ironic. I'm just very This is my comedy brain, but a telepathic chat room   feels like something. A telegram room, but just for these these all of these people who are capable of accessing and, like But why would like, aren't they tell why aren't they telepathing each other with their brains?  

Well, they what do you mean? Tell It's a chat room.  

[00:13:37] Unknown:

What? It's a  

[00:13:38] Business Cat:

I this is. This is a telepathic this is not like a chat room that they're typing. So there's no actual record. Right? So they're just finding each other, like, in the entire event. They are going out to this place in their mind that they have labeled the mountain or the hill or something, and they go and talk there.   Like, in And they know they're talking to people even though they should be They know each other. And there there's several like, there there is one boy and a girl who are in relation. They're in a lot like, they they're in a committed relationship. They met on the mountain, and they, like, they're they were talking to it. My my hey, mom. My best friend   is this person. It's like, who oh, are you making this up? And then later, they meet that person and find, oh, is this the real person that I met on the quote unquote psych psychedelic Internet or whatever this this the mountain, this chat room. Why are we but it man, it really brings me to why are we being shown them? Why are why are, you know, why are now we being shown this? Well, it's like anyway, so back to my my idea of, like, these are these telepathic people are incredibly powerful, but   wizards, but they have no capacity to have point defense. So, like, you need to pair this kind of per this kind of power   with somebody who is going to take care of them and, like, okay. We need to brush your teeth. You need to eat. You need to, like, wear clothe like, these things, like, interfacing with actual toilet. You can't just Interfacing with meat space. It's like you need you need to, like,   pair these kind of talents up with somebody, like, a loving parent who will   devote their life to taking care of them. Yeah. But yeah. Like and now, like, okay. So where do we go from this? The there's these kids can talk to dead relatives.  

These kids can see  

[00:15:08] Unknown:

it's got, like, the 6 steps that I've I've spoken to dead real I mean, I'm not kidding. I'm not fucking around. Like,   I'm certain.   I'm certain I've told the story to some of the people   that listen to the show before when we talk about this but like when my grandfather died in 2007, I'm certain   that   he visited me and I wrote a song with him   and, he always like   always was like   dude my grandfather was the kindest nicest guy in the world and he only got annoyed by like 3 things on earth and one of them was whenever he asked me if I wrote down my music. Like, if when I wrote music, if I wrote it down and I would say no and he would, like, he would be visibly upset,   like, annoyed.  

Like and,   I remember him visiting me. I'm like, alright. I see this is fucked up and this is really happening and there's just there's literally he's, like, pointing me to a song that's really new and different that I in my world, and I'm gonna write this shit down.   And I've been playing this thing. I've been playing it for 15 years, and I'm sure I'm sure it happened that way. Like, I'm absolutely absolutely certain.  

[00:16:17] Business Cat:

And we are   we are ethereal creatures, all of us. And I feel like all of all of us are capable of pushing beyond that veil to some degree. And so I can this I should record this song and go out with it. I don't I don't know if I'll be able to do that in a couple days, but if I get a good recording of this on piano, but, like, that would be kinda cool. That would be. The, I I won't we won't hold you to that for this for this edit, but maybe at some point in the future. The, but it's, like so these   the knowing so so why why are we as a society   some of us are paying attention like like you hadn't heard of this, but, like, we're having these revelations of what's what we're capable of, what the species are capable of, like, what we've been what has been hidden from us is slowly being peeled back.  

And   I mean, I it's like  

[00:17:03] Unknown:

this has always been around. What if Star Wars was trying to do this   in a more subtle way and   they realized 50 years later it's just not like, no. We need to be a little more overt.  

[00:17:15] Business Cat:

Like, be like, no, dude. People can really do this shit. Well, I mean, there's always been, like Hollywood has always been used to leak   secret truths to us and, like, indicate certain things. Like, and and, like, the 6th the movie The 6th Sense. It's like I said, like, communicating with dead relatives. It's like this   immediately You never saw it. I should. I mean, it's just one of those big misses. One of those classic. Yeah. I'm sure I'm sure you're aware of the tropes of it at this point. It's one of those movies that was so iconic that it's been taped in everything else. Right. Yeah. But it's like so so if that's real, if there there are people among us who are capable of communicating   beyond the veil with   with dead and not only communicate, like like, of course, all of us can talk to dead relatives. Hey hey, all dead relatives. I love you. The question is, can they communicate back? And if the these if these kids are able to communicate   to they're they're receiving information from beyond the veil. Like, for me, that's that's only something I was ever capable of doing on, like, under the influence of an entheogen.  

And and in fact, whenever they like, entheogen also known as psychedelics, whenever in in back in the sixties when they when they were ex before the sixties, whenever it was that we were coming up with a name naming   what is this new thing, entheogens,   and coming up with the idea of the name psychedelics. One of the competing names was telepathy,   because under psychedelics   give you the ability, like   and I can confirm from personal experience.   It feels an awful lot like you can read the brains of people around you. Maybe in, like, in my experience, like, I I had chalked that up in my brain to essentially you're turning the dial up on reading body language to 11, and I could tell what pea how like, I could tell a lot about people just by how they were walking.   But maybe   this is, like, dipping into this kind of same kind of telepathy range. Can I let me throw a half thought at you here  

[00:19:00] Unknown:

and also in the realm of things I've experienced   in my life? Right? So   a Grateful Dead concert,   a Phish concert.   I can   assure you that   Trey Anastasio,   right, the man, leader   Phish, has articulated   how sort of awestruck and dumbfounded he is when,   like, the   a 2020,000   people at the same time literally notice that he that he does something   different or that he does something. There's just that everyone is so locked in. Everyone's   exactly locked in, like, there's and it's one of the unique things in the world where you could have 20,000 people in a room and they're all locked in on every note sound syllable   feeling.  

Like, he could say if, like, literally a note   bounces off the rafters in MSG, like, and he can hear how the crowd reacts to it. In in   the Grateful Dead, it was all about that was a network. Like that at the time and there's a great book called Heads, highly recommend it.   I don't wanna get out too much of a tangent but the author of Heads, Jesse Jarno, was a friend of mine and I just saw he's on Noster and I'm kind of really excited about it.   Remember this name, Jesse Jarno. The book Heads is all about how the Grateful Dead was an economy of ideas and it was an economy, a network economy, to spread essentially psychedelics and   this idea that human beings are more capable of more   than what we've been told,   I'm guessing this is all sort of like the   the,   sand through the grip of MK Ultra, right, like the unintended consequence.  

Sure. And, you know, that's where the that's where the LSD came from. That's where, right, and it's where they all found out about it and got to experiment in a lab setting.   And then you had just the sort of the people that brought that into this massive,   at least nationwide. I'm not I don't know if I'd call it a worldwide economy, but it's certainly in the United States was massive nationwide   economy   of this really, I think it's this idea, you know, this idea of telepathy, and I think people used to go to dead shows to just to experience this without the name. Right? Yeah. That that makes sense to me. That kind of shared experience where you're all getting on a similar wavelength and you you feel a vibe. It's kind of like a   spiritual experience of sorts. And going back to life seems pointless after you experience that. Yeah, man. Man. Right? It's like  

[00:21:31] Business Cat:

reintegration   after encountering the divine is   it's it's can be difficult.  

[00:21:38] Unknown:

So I you know, have I've said the words on this podcast before that, like, I've said, like, holding your keys gives you alchemic, like, an alchemic power.   I think we experience something similar as Bitcoiners   where we are connected to each other and it's not, like, it's not fake like,   like, my whole life I was told that   people that,   you know, people who like the same things as me have similar characteristics and things like that, but you can this is in a different world. You could feel it. You can like, I almost can feel somebody in Nigeria who's struggling with holding their keys is dealing with certain existential issues that are similar to me. Mhmm.   And somehow, like, I can't even we can't even verbalize it. There's no words for this right but like somehow I feel like we can tap into each other's consciousness and   I still really believe bitcoin may not be a money and it may just be a selection tool   right it's a tool for the us the people who are capable of operating on this level   right to connect with each other because maybe that's like I know we were talking about it's an attack factor like, well, if somebody can figure out   my keys because they can read my brain, that's really dangerous, right,   But I feel like on the other that's that's true. Like, that's a threat to crypto to total cryptography, but we've had cryptography for 1,000 of years. Right. We've we've had let's assume we've had people on this earth who are very capable of reading people's thoughts. Right? Let's assume this is common. Right?  



[00:23:07] Business Cat:

I mean, what is it? 9,000,000,000 people on earth. Right? At least 50 of them are capable of probably reading each other's thoughts with This is Okay. Reminding one one of the lines that one of the kids in so I'm I'm on full disclosure. I'm not through the all of the tapes yet. I'm on episode 4.   But one of the things this kid one of these kids said is which lines up with my experience with the Akashic Records is that, and this kid said that   you   nobody is allowed to be have this gift   unless   you will you will exclusively use it for good. And it's the same thing with your kids. Away. The second yeah. It's almost and it it's like  

[00:23:44] Unknown:

it's just like we were talking about last   episode   which is   we   are struggling, we are we are so new that we don't know how, like, we don't know the guidelines   to live the life we live and to have   sort of,   I think for us, the telepathy is our conviction.   Right? Like, our conviction we may not I can't read your mind like business guide, but I can read   god's mind when I ask   is this am I right about this?   Mhmm. And I have, like, I have the ability I've cultivated   a certain lifestyle,   right,   which is gives, you know, part of it's like a connection to the truth.   You know, there's a certain lifestyle that you cultivate that gives you access to conviction.  

Right?   And   I would guess this is similar where the, you know, nobody you know, there's a certain lifestyle   that gives you access to this that the second you betray that lifestyle, the second you do, you know, it's gone.   It's gone, never comes back and maybe that's when these guys,   you know, maybe   maybe our boy Redtail really is onto something.   Maybe, you know,   maybe we do continue our lives, right,   in this consciousness   until we betray it and then you come back as some angry dick because you used to have this power and you don't have it anymore.   And you just wanna fuck everybody over now until you know, you you know, like, there's there's something,   I think it's connect. So I I think whoever out there   is capable like, you know, look you and I connected for a reason. You know, you have, you know, like you   nobody articulates the shit that you do here, right, with the Akashic records. I don't I view it as totally normal conversation like I get it. Like I actually just, you know, so there's something about you and I that's just, like, makes this is totally normal.  

Right? This is totally exactly this is, like, you know, on the level of what we're pushing to figure out and,   you know, we don't there's nobody else to get to talk to to say, well, how do you keep this   line open?   You do know, like, you don't you follow the 10 commandments and that's probably   80 percent. That's, you know, if you go into 80 20 rule, like, I think if you follow the 10 commandments, you're probably   on a good track. You're putting out good karma in the universe, good momentum. And then I think the final piece, I think, is to really,   be so close to yourself that you truly pursue   what your   what that,   you know, your ethereal   soul tells you to pursue. Right?  

Like, your rational self my rational self, whenever I'm staring at a rabbit hole that I know I have to go into, my rational self is, like, don't fucking do it.   This is gonna be 9 months of your life. You're never gonna you're this is it. You you go here, you're never you're never going back. Yeah. There are there are some rabbit holes that are that will change your life permanently.   So I mean just every like I go into like number like I knew it when I was gonna start studying number theory and it's not 9 months, it's not two and a half years   at this point, but, like, you know you're standing in front of that rabbit hole. You know, like, God is telling you to just jump into it. You have to,   but your rational self resists it, and that resistance   is what causes you problems on this earth.  



[00:27:11] Business Cat:

Right? Yeah. Amen to that. Boy, like, fighting   realizing   and, like, grokking   that   God has a will and desire for your life,   like, that's one step. The next step is   sitting sitting your butt down and doing what God says. That, like, that  

[00:27:33] Unknown:

that's a a a whole another level of being willing. That that's squash in the ego. That's negation of the self. And and, like You know, and for some people it's like a Killdozer. It's too much. It's like You know what I mean? To some people it just did I mean, that's when you told me the Killdozer story,   I really did like, I I I empathized with him   because   for some people it's   math   and for some people   it's fucking bull it's a it's a kill dozer. Yeah.   You know it's like I remember   an interview with Michael Burry on 60 minutes like during 2009   and they were asking him   like, how did you decide   to study mortgage documents? And he was like,   he said something to the effect that it's basically like autistic roulette where you don't know what it picks you and it could have easily been the phone book but it happened to be this,   you know, and that really resonated with me   at the time, you know, it really really resonated.  

So I think people have to cultivate   an ability   to, you know it's like he I I say hear the phone ring. Right? Yeah. You you have to put yourself in a receptive state. Yes. So you wanna hear the phone ring, but then when that phone rings, you better answer it or, like, god will fuck you.  

[00:28:53] Business Cat:

Well, I mean,  

[00:28:54] Unknown:

god god gives your life shit until you answer that phone   and do what you are being compelled to do. Right?   Now it's just such a blessing to have such a strong sense of what to do, but it's also, like, very painful to say, my god. This goes there is not a single 9 of 9,000,000,000 people on this earth, there's not a single person who would rationally agree that this is what a a person should do.  

[00:29:17] Business Cat:

Right? Not that that can so what do you do? I mean, right, it really raises the question that when you hear god's voice, like, do you follow it?  

[00:29:26] Unknown:

And so then it's, like, yeah, well, maybe there's not 9,000,000,000 people that would ever do this, but there's you in your life and you're either gonna, like, you you know, you have this you have a limited amount of time and you're either gonna spend it resisting   what you,   you know, under this resistance and dealing with the consequences of that resistance.  

[00:29:44] Business Cat:

May maybe not even call it resistance. Like,   we're going to, like,   suffer under the illusions that we had that we can chart a course our own course.   Yeah. Or that yeah. Fighting the tide rather than Yeah. But which is  

[00:29:58] Unknown:

what was the word? I mean, I resistance is like   yeah I heard a great quote once in early in my life that what you resist   persists.   It rhymes which is awesome but like   you know like if you ever like   have a person in your life and there's just a characteristic you fucking don't accept about them and like the more you don't accept it the more they stay that way   and it's like   the thing maybe it's in a physics context where it's just like you know when god's telling you to do something and you're either gonna put friction in there in between. It's like you're either gonna put friction in, you know, you're gonna use your livingness   to put friction between you and god   or you're going to remove that friction.  

Right? Yeah. And then imagine 9,000,000,000   or   a 1000000000 of   people like you   taking, you know, taking the orders,   right?   Like,   you know, we have human chains of command which suck but obviously, you know,   you see how powerful it is when people follow it.   Imagine if we really   decentralize maybe decentralization   really is all of us   just   committing to a frictionless  

[00:31:15] Business Cat:

chain of command with god. Well, if we lived if we all lived godly life, if we lived like what would Jesus do? If we actually did that, we wouldn't need a government. Like, the government if we were all treating each other the way we would be treated because nobody would listen to it. Right. Right. That's the It would be irrelevant.   I mean, it's like I feel like so, I mean, circling back to the telepathy stuff,   most world religions   talk about how we are created in God's image. Like, we we are divine creatures who are fooled or we have been, like, we're given free will in order, like, it's it's on us to discover it. But, like, the idea of being created in God's image   is I mean, for me, like, I don't think that means we're physically, like, God looks like a human being. Like, may maybe, but, like, my my read of we are made in God's image is we have the cognition   intelligence. Like, this is what is taught that's talking about. We have the minds of God. If we're and if you put in the work, like, you put yourself in a receptive receptive state to hear God's voice, then, I mean, you can get some direction where you wanna go. Like, you can wander aimlessly,   but, like, I promise you, you're here for like, you all of us exist before this dimension. We we chose to come to this dimension. And, like, why like, in in that selection process of you choosing, I want these parents. And, like, this this is gonna open a lot of really difficult questions for kids that are born into horrible situations. But, I mean,   this is all happening for a reason as brutal as it is.  



[00:32:39] Unknown:

Yeah. I'll add, like, just being in this dimension as a human being as opposed to any other   life form.   Like, we have been given we've been given the Ferrari.   K? Because our our brains and our bodies   are Ferraris.   Right? So this is a, you know, this is something   listeners won't recognize,   you know, the Jack Cruz isms. And by the way,   just on a on a side, the,   the Breedlove series is trickling out. They're like little 4 hour segments.   I highly, highly recommend them. Shout out Breedlove with Jack Cruz? Yes. And Jeremy shot the video,   and it's good shit. So but, you know, he always talks about, like, we have our the human body and the human brain is a fucking Ferrari. Okay? And it's real, like it's just   environmental. It's it's it's we either,   living in accordance with nature   either gives us access to that Ferrari or essentially turns it into a Ferrari driving trying to do donuts in a garage. You know?  

And, you know, it's probably not just our brains and our hearts. It's probably also our souls. And, you know, one of the things that came up one of the things I'll reference out of the Breedlove episode   is that,   the amount of energy a human being actually generates   is not explainable in physics   which means we have to meaning we either are producing things within our own body that aren't explain you know, it's not explainable from external stimulus and response.   Okay.   Just like the, a tree that grows above 30 some odd feet is not explainable   by physics either.  

There are many things in our world that we observe that aren't explainable by quote unquote Newtonian physics which means we're either we're either getting   you know, we're part of a system that's far beyond the earth. Mhmm. Mhmm. That's, you know, obviously, it's hitting us and, you know, by the way, coronal mass injections, all the things we talk about here come up in that episode.   So it's,   it's probably good to just hear it. Anyway,   you know, we are living in a solar system and we are living in a system beyond solar. We are living in a universe, right? Earth is not some closed   closed physical realm. Yeah. Right? And   so I just it's, you know,   last   we last episode, right,   I recharacterized   my whole life under these this term orthogonal   divergence   and   I described the term orthogonal. People who know physics   or study engineering   know what that term means. It's like perpendicular.  

It's a new axis,   a new dimension.   Right?   So   the dimension we are aware of is mind body, right? Spirit like those types of things. We don't think about it that way. We don't think of those things as   axes,   right? And we don't, you know, we think we live under some closed system.   We don't and it's actually not like telepathy is not a hard thing to imagine that people really have. It's almost like absurd   to think it's not so. Right? Yeah. My only question is why is this be why are we being told this on conventional   platforms  

[00:36:05] Business Cat:

now? Right? It's like why what what is that? Well, I mean, there's it's not conventional plat like, there's there's it's not like MSNBC   is talking about empathy. I know. I guess it's on is this like on YouTube or Netflix or like No. This is just a podcast series. I'm not it's a podcast series. I got it. I got it. I got it. I mean, this is a kind of it took somebody who   yeah. It's not it's not again, it's not the mainstream media talking about that. I I I feel like this is not   being   this is not being handed out to us. This is just Yeah. It happens to be that society is at a point where we're capable of finally grokking this in mass.  

[00:36:37] Unknown:

I I just some weird dark part of the intellectual silver road that is you're saying you were discovering this conversation.  

[00:36:44] Business Cat:

I mean, potentially how you frame it. I mean, this is these The nook and cranny of the ISR. The people producing this podcast are definitely not part of the that that world. But, I mean, yes. Or, like, the intellectual Silk Road. Like, I mean,   we are discovering the truth of, like, where this planet's going. And it's like, okay. In the what does the world look like after the pole shift? It's like, maybe it's going to include,   like, telepathic individuals  

[00:37:11] Unknown:

who are put in a position of power. It may be. And this is why so, like, after you said that,   like, I I really strongly encourage you to listen to the to the Jack Cruz episode.   Just   I've all so the first one dropped about 3 weeks ago or 2 weeks ago.   Like, these things are all hinted at. Mhmm. He's thinking about it. Right? So, like, there's somebody else in the world who's who's in rabbit holes that's thinking about that's thinking about hinted at, but he's not talking about them, like, directly?   You know, it takes a lot to get him to focus on one thing. Like, he will he literally said in the same sentence, like, there are, you know, coronal mass injections, pole shift, and by the way, the Maxwells are in charge of all the relevant medical journals.   And, like, these are all massive kind of bombs that   deserve their own 10 hour conversation, and he, like, will just breathe them all out in one sentence   just to see what to see what the guy he's talking to wants to really lock in on. You know?  

So what I'm saying is I think it's worthwhile to just   it's worthwhile to I really do think it's worthwhile to know Jack. By the way, for the record, he still blocks me and,   you know, whatever. I'm sure yeah. Like, I'll I'll have him listen. I think it's important to know what he's up to.   Okay?   And, you know, a lot of the things he's hitting are in our are in the world of things we're talking about. And   in the world of decentralization,   when you can't take those you can't take small connections for granted.   Right? And that's maybe that maybe that encompasses why I, like, obsess about fish and these   connections that I've made that are kind of a joke.  

But if they're wrapped inside the spirit that you can't   underestimate   connections in a decentralized world.  

[00:39:01] Business Cat:

I mean, the the point of where we're at in world history right now is, okay, you wanna survive this? You need to start identifying   individuals who are awake and have real signal that is resonating with you. And so yeah. Like And the sooner you can go with, like, don't underestimate this connection to  

[00:39:15] Unknown:

yay or nay,   the more you're gonna make it. Right? It's like the better you are now with the You can identify and then discern. Right? Like, the time it takes between identification   and discernment   is your superpower   if you can cultivate it.  

[00:39:30] Business Cat:

You've mentioned fish a couple times. So you you you told me off air that you're thinking about starting a fish podcast.  

[00:39:37] Unknown:

Yes.   So,   it's finally I think it's like, I've been talking about this for a while now. Talking about this for a lot. You're it's the the Phish content is finally gonna get put out there. And, you know, full circle. Right? So we're on episode 56. Right? It was, high Hash Rate episode 56. Shout out to those guys that, you know, it was the first time I kinda put any of those thoughts out on Mike and got to listen to it and   evaluate whether or not it was stupid and crazy or not, and I didn't think it was. I thought it was actually great. It inspired me to write even more things about it. And so,   there's a guy in my there's a guy in my meetup,   and,   I don't think I don't know if he wants to be told who he is or anything like that. But You don't have to dox him just yet.  

I we're like we're on the precipice.   No. So you remember when we started our podcast and you were like, go buy this mic and, like, you know, we're sort of, like, we're at that point.   Okay. Gotcha. He bought the mic. We're almost ready to roll.   He's never done a podcast before so we're getting through that. But, like, yeah. We're gonna get I actually think it's really important   to get this fish thing just out. And maybe I'll stop talking about it once it's out and I have   some little body of work that   gets all this just gets all the stuff out. I feel like somebody else needs to find it and then do some running with it.   So I found a a great guy who I've spent hours now, probably dozens of hours talking about this subject with   And,   I actually think it's important for our culture.  

Again, you know, I was mentioning before I didn't expect to bring up the Grateful Dead and Fish in the context of   telepathy, but it makes sense to me. Yeah.  

[00:41:20] Business Cat:

Totally.  

[00:41:21] Unknown:

I think anyone who's experienced,   I mean, why do we have had music? Right?   And, you know, there's, like I'll say shout out Baseload too.   Baseload's a guy I played music with a lot and I think I do I think he and I do get on a level of telepathy with each other   when we're playing.   And I've been playing music a long time. There are very few people I've ever been able to have that with and just, like, baseloads immediately. Like, we just got each other and ready to jam.   And I think there's something about jam culture and jam in this this jamming   that,  

[00:42:02] Business Cat:

yeah. I mean   I mean, vibing is a form of telepathy. It's like you're communicating beyond words.  

[00:42:08] Unknown:

Yeah. Yeah. Something like that. Right? So, by the way, shout out Baseload. He was at PubKey to his first inaugural event, his energy meetup.  

[00:42:17] Business Cat:

And, there's gonna they're gonna be, like, repetitive now. Right? Once a month, he's gonna be there. That's so awesome. Good for him. I was supposed to join him.  

[00:42:26] Unknown:

The audience doesn't know. I got into a nasty car accident   on   Monday on my way to the Bitcoin, John,   and, talk about talk about connecting to God, dude. I mean, yeah, dude. I don't know. I got away with this guy ran a red light and I went head into him full speed,   40, 45 miles an hour. Oh my gosh.   Airbag deployed, the whole deal, and,   I got away with it. Did he have insurance?   Yeah.   Yeah. He but, it's weird. It's it happened right in front of 3 cops. There were like, there was a cop right at my window. I said, don't worry. We saw the whole thing. It's very strange.   But, I was, like, relieved, you know, in shock and relieved. And,   I don't know. It's all it's all I I I was saying   it's weird. I I had a great moment last night. I was with my daughter   and, you know,   she said something unbelievable   to me about just, like, reflecting on me. You didn't realize it has this thing has impacts on your family,   and they're processing it too. My daughter said, you know what?  

I think God wants this math thing to get to to be successful. I really she's like telling my daughter is a math major   who otherwise is just thinking about next semester   and you know she wants to join a band and she wants to, you know, she's having hard math classes shorted up, but then she's like, you know what? She's starting to see a bigger picture  

[00:43:53] Business Cat:

and says I think God wants your math. Well, she's getting me to succeed. She's getting to think about, like, oh, my dad could have been dead   this week.   I could have been Totally. Yeah. Like, you could have been on your own right now.  

[00:44:07] Unknown:

It's pretty wild. And I I so I actually really do think this was a signal. I almost think that, like, I was I was put in a situation where it was only me, no one else was in the car.   It was with a guy who had no consequence either somehow   just to ring my bell.   Right? To really ring my bell.   And I mean, I guess speaking of other projects, this is I'm jack cruising the last 15 minutes of this thing right now with all of, like, with these   smattering of things that I'm involved in. No. Let's just shove it all in. But,   let's yeah. I'll so now we're talking about,   wanting the Math Academy to succeed. I have a new project   gets getting off the ground where,   we're starting   a class,   and and it's gonna be in the form of a podcast   that,   okay. So you guys shout out shout out Gary. Average Gary. K? Yeah. Yeah. Alright. We love Gary. We've I've shouted him out many times in the podcast but, like,   2 weeks ago,   you know, so he he's a rock paper Bitcoin listener and he's listening to me go on about math and all this stuff and he like   like this dude, I listen to the podcast the second it gets dropped. Right? So the second you drop it, I see it come in on fountain. I'm up at 5 in the morning. Right? I'm like, oh, I'm just like everybody. I'm just like all you guys. I'm like, I get excited.  

Like, alright. I listen to it right away.   And this like like, as soon as I was done listening to it, Gary starts pinging   me about he's like, what's the deal? How important really is it with math? And you start going back and forth and he was like, holy shit, dude. We really we need to we need to,   do something. Gary is a cryptographer.   He's gonna hate that I said that.   Okay? He's gonna hate it that I said that as much as I would hate it if anyone said I was a mathematician.   Right? And I was saying to Gary, like, look, you may not be   the best and I'm not the best but we're the best ones our audience has to do this.  

Right? We're just we are the best people to deliver this for   our audience.   Right? We, you know, the honestly, the more capable mathematicians out there are all fucking working for shit coins trying to destroy us,   you know,   to the point where, like,   I'm I am sympathizing with Dennis Porter this week because he has decided to attack,   a mathematician.   And I'm like, okay.   The enemy of my enemy is my friend   on this on this particular On this one little tiny webinar. Day. Yeah. You know? So, like,   the bet the the, you know, the people, the PhDs out there, they're already they are they're the fucking enemy. Okay? Really, for the most part. They're incentivized   to,   try to try to break us, and we're we're trying to build the defense.  

And it's gonna be it's gonna have to be me, and it's gonna have to be Gary. So you and Gary, you're gonna be like Gary's a better cryptographer than I am a mathematician.   But we're going to motivate   the math and I think that might be the name of the podcast, motivating the math.   And,   I'm really excited now. I feel like so look. I I feel like I declared something on the podcast. I feel like I said I was gonna 10 x my podcasting.   Mhmm. Mhmm. I was gonna commit to math and then, like, literally within seconds of the podcast being done,   like Let's let's let's do that 10 x. Yeah. We, like, get started already. We're getting off the ground and, like, Gary, you know, Gary is the man.  



[00:47:41] Business Cat:

You know, he reached out to me after the last episode too, but it was not not about starting a show. It was like, oh, you wanna buy a 50 BMG a? Let's talk about that.  

[00:47:51] Unknown:

Yeah. I mean, look. And and so, like, the podcast I've always said is a signal   to action. It's always a signal. Right? We're throwing a signal out, and   we can't do this ourselves. And I'd   more and more I see our audience as our access to,   you know, our access to success and to winning.   I put out   by the way, I put out a   I think I put it out on the Telegram about,   see who wants to read parts of what I've written so far for the book   and got a great response   and sit tight. I'm gonna organize that   and start parsing. You know, we'll start putting things out,   for you guys. Thank you.  



[00:48:38] Business Cat:

25,  

[00:48:39] Unknown:

you're getting stuff done, man. The so, by the way, the last part of this dump the last part of this dump   is the fact that   something we've we've been forgetting to do every episode and kicking ourselves afterwards,   not that it matters right now, but we wanna talk about it,   is that we want   to read boosts.   And we forget to talk about it   every single time. Yeah. We would like to read boosts. We'd you know, like, we would like to show our appreciation   for   people who engage   with us in the value for value   economy.   And I had resisted it for a while only because it didn't seem a like, it just seemed like a derivative thing to do,   but   it's a dickish thing not to acknowledge people who boost us too. And,   you know,   so I feel like Business Cat and I,   we wanna acknowledge we wanna acknowledge we wanna encourage people to do it. We wanna make it fun and then acknowledge it. So,   you know, I think we had talked about if it goes over a certain threshold, we'll read all of them   and, you know, not some, you know,   some if it goes over and we we haven't talked about the number. Yeah. I don't know. It's like we're definitely gonna start when we remember  

[00:49:58] Business Cat:

we will When we remember. So we'll yeah. We'll start ending the episodes with reading through the boost from the previous ones. Just yeah. Like, I mean, there's there's not a whole lot. We can just do them all for now. Like, may maybe at some point in the future, if we get some kind of, like, a lot, then we'll have to we'll have to put some kind of, like, only if you boost up, like, a 1,000 sets. We'll only read that. But Well, I don't wanna be etched more like if we it's like are we gonna  

[00:50:23] Unknown:

the thing I didn't wanna do was break the flow of the show.   Mhmm. Mhmm. Let's go ahead and do that. But if we have a you can end the show with it and then people can skip that if they want to. People can skip it, but my fit like, honestly, one of my favorite aspects of this show is how it ends and you always pick a great song and it's got great it's just it's just it's a beautiful   aesthetic   when you find the right spot to end the show and you get the right song. It's a beautiful sunset. Gonna have to do that now, find these end spots  

[00:50:49] Business Cat:

while we're talking about chat the the comments. Is it possible that,  

[00:50:54] Unknown:

the people that boost us   know tell they get the telepathic method they get the telepathic message of our appreciation.  

[00:51:03] Business Cat:

Well, I mean, they yeah. I mean, I'm I'm sending out appreciative vibes right now, folks. Can you feel them?  

[00:51:10] Unknown:

I mean, I don't you know,   that would be kinda interesting.   Right?   I I boost a lot. I don't really ever feel   a void when someone doesn't   appreciate it. I always you know what I mean? It I'd it's like when you give your value when you give value for value, right, when you acknowledge somebody, right,  

[00:51:31] Business Cat:

I don't typically fill a void. It's nice, but it is nice when some it's nice when it's acknowledged, of course. That's like how life is with people. It's not very nice when it's acknowledged. Yeah. I think it's good to to start giving some, like, feedback to people that are commenting. Like, I I I'm hesitant to say, like, oh, we'll just read anything. If you boost it, we'll read it because then that's like opening the door to, like like, oh, no. I'm not gonna read something crazy if somebody Oh, yeah. You gotta listen to Ungovernable Misfits and see what what happens when essentially they give over,  

[00:51:59] Unknown:

they give over creative rights to the boosters. And,  

[00:52:02] Business Cat:

Well, that's what I was doing earlier in the show whenever I I used to, it was like, stack, what, point point hash and,   and zapsats or whatever, stream zaps. But But it's like I'm I don't do the point hash anymore just because it was like it it worked a little bit. It's just it seems like too much. Like, there's not a lot of Bitcoin miners out there to begin with. It's like whatever. That's just too it's too much overhead. But in the mean in the small time that we were doing that, there was   there was a few people that if you go back and listen to those episodes at the beginning, like, I was having to read out real a real long string of text of people who were yeah. It was it was it was cute.  

[00:52:36] Unknown:

Yeah. Do we still get people pointing hash?  

[00:52:39] Business Cat:

We   the the last person who was, I I reached out to them. I was like, hey. I'm gonna stop doing this in a in a couple weeks. So just FYI, we're I appreciate you pointing your hash at this, but it's like it's I'm not I'm gonna stop referencing at the beginning of the show.  

[00:52:52] Unknown:

So But in the new epoch, the 3.125   epoch, it's much less   it's just harder. I mean, you know,   it's much costlier   to point hash in this era than it was in the last epoch. Right? It's it's also I mean, it's costly.  

[00:53:07] Business Cat:

It's one level of technicality to even figure out how to mine Bitcoin,   but then   to to   above and beyond that, it's like, okay. You figured out how to configure the buy like, your bias of your miner. Can you figure out how to slice off a small amount of that hash power and send it to another mining pool? So if if you're not yet it's there there's some some software that doesn't even even enable that, but if if you're using brains, you can do it, but it's like a it's not   super instantly apparent how to do it. Anyway, we dropped it because it was it was just too much. But I like the idea of reading comments.  

[00:53:40] Unknown:

Yeah. So we'll do that. And since we're this agenda   was so unorganized, I do have one thing. I one last segment I wanna cover. Okay.   And before I do that, let's just   let's just say,   I mean, we love the audience. We treasure you guys. We treasure. I still I don't know why you guys listen to us. I don't I don't know what you're doing. What are you doing with your lives listening to us? Well, I'm hoping like, yeah. I mean, I feel like that we're we're up to something just so much bigger than we can even articulate, and,   you know, I feel it when we're in the telegram. We're very engaged and,  

[00:54:14] Business Cat:

Yeah. There's still new   massive things to come out on the show. Like, even people think of, like, okay, like like Business Cat is the pole shift guy. He's the Bitcoin guy. Like, all all of these things people know me for. Like, I have a couple irons in the fire still that I haven't talked about   at all on this show   that   are going to blow people's minds when that when I eventually start talking about them. That's exciting, man. So, yeah, just just a little little yeah. It's this there is definitely   I I agree. There's something special and strange about this show. So I I I I'm like, I rip on you listeners. I don't know why you listen. I kind of get it. Like, there's obviously something weird going on here. So for people that like weird things, hey. We love you too.  

[00:54:53] Unknown:

And I would just say especially those of you that do engage with us.   You know? I mean, I I'm grateful for the invisible   portion of you, but also the ones that put yourself on the visible spectrum.   It means a lot. It really like, I feel like we're really building something.   So consider being visible,  

[00:55:13] Business Cat:

and being, you know, sort of part of what we do in between episodes, which is really pushing through ideas. So Can you guys still hear me, by the way? Oh, absolutely, dude. Oh, sweet. Alright. So I I clicked onto a new tab. I pulled up the analytics from the, the hosting software.   Okay. Let's see here. Alright. It's so funny, dude. People ask me all the time. Oh, what are your stats? I'm like, I have no idea. I mean, I I never list I never look at it. Yeah. It's not we're not a huge show. I mean, we we've we've passed our 20,000   total download, so that that gives you some idea of of how big we are.  

The, so just so the top five cities currently for the the past 2 weeks of download of of activity on our show,   the the number one country   is Nepal, and the city is   Kathmandu with 54 downloads.  

[00:56:00] Unknown:

Is this VPN, you think, or is this,  

[00:56:03] Business Cat:

I don't know. I mean, it's if it is, I can't imagine there's that many people that are VPNing into Kathmandu.   But so so the top the top countries are Nepal, Indonesia. Sherpas do you think we got Sherpas listening?   That would be awesome. I mean, if I was if I was a Sherpa, I'd listen to podcasts. I mean, do you want their signal in the fact that our biggest country is, like, test 10,000,  

[00:56:22] Unknown:

10000 feet elevation?  

[00:56:25] Business Cat:

Oh. Oh, that's an interesting correlation that I that I had missed. Maybe.   But the so   so this is point in the we are just about, like, the furthest out from,   our last episode that we that we basically, like, when don't we drop a new episode?   The highest download will immediately   go down to oh, it's US and UK are the 2 our 2 highest outlets. But now that we've been out a couple a while from dropping a new episode, now, like, it the distribution starts to to scatter out a bit. So, yeah, the the top five cities are Kathmandu,   Jakarta,   Indonesia, Brooklyn,   US,   Bangkok, Thailand, and Philadelphia   are our current top 5 sit download cities. Nice. And I'm always good one. I look in here, like, I'm just waiting. Like, someday, we're gonna have a download from North Korea, and I will let you know when that happens. So that's why day, we'll have a producer that plans a world tour in  

[00:57:16] Unknown:

in those 5 cities. I I was like, oh, well, you know,   we can't skip Nepal.  

[00:57:21] Business Cat:

Just can't skip I would love to go to Nepal.  

[00:57:25] Unknown:

Yeah. I'm I'm now my fish brain and my music brain is saying, well, okay. Bob Seger had a song Kathmandu. Right? Maybe there's some there's gotta be a connection here. There's   maybe it's nothing.  

[00:57:38] Business Cat:

Alright. I guess we're we're getting pretty meta here talking about the podcast on the podcast.  

[00:57:43] Unknown:

It's okay. Let's let's get a little, concrete. Let's close it out on,   I'd be remiss if I didn't talk a little bit about rates.  

[00:57:52] Business Cat:

Yes. Yes.   What is let's say the 10 year is, like, approaching what, 4.7%?  

[00:57:58] Unknown:

It's going up. Yeah. It's it's just they've shot up. Okay? And the rates have shot up. When when we talk about rates, you gotta remember there's the Fed funds rate that the fucking cartel sets, then that's the short overnight lending rate. And then there's   every other rate out on the term structure,   I.   E. 1 year, 2 year, 10 year, 30 year, etcetera, which   is the bond market   determines.   Right?   And   the main reason I think it's important to bring up here, this is not a macro podcast.   However, we do Sometimes it is. Sometimes it is, I guess. Right?   We talked about in August,   there was a massive event that,   caused a lot of volatility in the market. If you guys recall, we talked about   it. And it was really it was when the it was this significant   after 30 plus years, the exit of Japan from this program they did called yield curve control, which is   like, the original QE, the original quantitative easing. What they had been doing for 30, 35 years is   printing money to buy the long end of   the bond market so that those long rates would stay low   and that was propping up the valuations   of their bonds.  

Right?  

[00:59:14] Business Cat:

They were a buyer of last resort of US debt. But their banks,  

[00:59:18] Unknown:

you know, their their banks, their reserves, their insurance companies, their pensions, all those assets   were I'm not gonna say inflated, but they were   valued at a higher valuation   because that's how that's like 101.   The 101 of financial mathematics is   lower rates mean higher   valuations of bonds.   Higher rates mean lower valuations of bonds.   A small aside as to maybe why that is to make it make sense is that when rates are higher, you're expecting   higher coupons in the future,   which lowers the amount that you would need today to say to fund.   You need less today to fund that overall the the final   payment. Right,   because you're gonna have higher coupons.  

Whereas if you expect no if rates are not are are   0 or very low,   then you have to fund all of that today, I e that you have a higher present value.   Right? So when rates are low, your present value of all your future cash flows are higher   because you're not depending on future cash flows to   build that build that capital. Okay. K. So   Japan was employing this technique   and they're printing money to buy up the long end. And we did this during quantitative easing as well. Right? We were we were we were joining in. Right?   When they exited,   when they stopped doing that in   roughly August, I wanna say it was either July or August, I don't fully remember,   the market had a conniption.  

They you know, it's like at the time they knew something was really, really wrong, but it was   there was no it wasn't like they could price in exactly what what happened. Right? We're just gonna have to live it.   Nothing you know, the bond markets didn't really respond that much.   Right? But   after a couple of, you know, after after a couple of rate drops and   for the US and then worldwide rate dropping, right, on the on the on the short end,   the bond market has responded in the last month or so by bidding really bidding up   those rates,   really selling off long rates hard. So, again, if this was a macro podcast, I would really go into detail about why   people sell off   those long bonds. Right?  

But just know that they do and the rates are going up and that's depressing   valuations  

[01:01:53] Business Cat:

of balance sheets Of everything. Yeah. All over the world. This is sucking money out of everything else.  

[01:01:58] Unknown:

Yeah. That's right. So   all it's a it's a worldwide   sort of eradication of value when those rates go up. Right? Because everybody holds treasure. Everybody holds long bonds.   Right?  

[01:02:12] Business Cat:

So do you so is the Fed going to turn the printers back on soon to get these rates back down? Right. Well, somebody Can they do that without blowing everything up? Here's why I think it's interesting for us, and it's a bit of a continuation of conversations we like to have.  

[01:02:26] Unknown:

Somebody's gonna have to do it. Yeah. Yeah. So that's the so now it's a game of chicken.   Right?   I don't think that we're gonna go ahead and do that   and just let every we're gonna let the entire world off the hook.   Okay?   I think what we're going to do is we're gonna continue to allow this   now all respect to,   people suffering from fires in LA and all that, but, like, we're gonna I'm gonna use this fire analogy here. Right?   Let's not be too sensitive about it, but, like, we're gonna let this fire burn  

[01:03:03] Business Cat:

and They have to. Until we get everybody  

[01:03:07] Unknown:

to fucking   beg us   to,   you know, to come in and fix it. And I have a small theory that this is maybe how we strong-arm Greenland.   This is how we strong-arm the things that we're trying to do in the world.   And then after we get our pound of flesh   from   the fucking, you know, the cum lords around the world,   we will then rescue these markets.   That's my theory.   It probably will you know, it probably will have to be us. The thing, I guess, I would I don't know if a lot of people are thinking about is, you know, in September of 22, the UK bailed out their bond market. Right?   Writing wrote an entire chapter in the book about it because it's what started I think it's what got BlackRock into the whole game. K? Mhmm.  



[01:04:02] Business Cat:

They're very close to do it looks like they're very close to that point again and then that started the cast you know, it's 5 months later that 5 banks failed. It's really interesting position we find ourselves in. I think it was Alan Farrington who said he predicted that the Canadian dollar the Canadian monetary system will fail a full 10 years before the American monetary system fails.   And, like, it really feels like   that   could be soon like, it may   what does failure look like? Okay. Well, we just buy them out and we we so we own Canada now or  

[01:04:33] Unknown:

I mean, it makes sense that they're coward   they're coward piece of shit. Sona Castro   prime minister just jumps jumped off the ship. Oh, yeah. He clearly he's not he can't govern if nobody's gone. I can't I can't believe it took him this long. But there may be this you know, he didn't have to resign. No. He may have done he may have done He resigned on January 6th. Because what's about to happen is so bad that he's he can't he can't bear to be near it. Right? Like, his ship is literally on fire,   and he's too much you know,   such a pussy that he can't even be anywhere near it.  

And what that fire could look like is absolute   financial failure that could be where we are right now. Yeah. I think it's closer than people  

[01:05:14] Business Cat:

than everyone realizes.   Well, I mean, maybe maybe, like, they see like, the the government see it happening, which is why, like, he's jumping ship. It's like, shit. Shut up, boomer. Our boys in Canada. We love you guys. Gosh. Yeah. You can man, I would   I I have mixed feelings about, like, I would it would be very dope to acquire Canada and Greenland. It's like that's   like, that is an awesome outcome   for, for the United States. It's like, alright. Get get the empire back in acquisition mode. It's like Bretton  

[01:05:43] Unknown:

Woods again,   basically.   That's what how it would occur to me. Like, we're gonna before   we rescue the fucking bond markets and we rescue,   you know, a 180 countries banking systems from absolute fucking failure because maybe 2 maybe 2022,   2023 really pushed these things to the threads and to the brink.   And everyone's on the brink of survival and they cannot they can't survive another   injury   and the poor all goes down. And so here we are   just like we were when we had all the gold and now we have, you know, we have all of the money printing capacity that nobody else has right now. Mhmm.   And we can come and rescue everything.  



[01:06:22] Business Cat:

We can rescue a few a few entities. The the question is who do we want to stick our necks up for?  

[01:06:28] Unknown:

Yeah. And then so we then we, you know, we consolidate the world order again around our money printing.   Meanwhile,   we're like, you know, here with you were it's like we watch this from the sidelines as Bitcoiners, like, what fucking theater this is. Right? But maybe this is the last domino we need to this is the dollar milkshake theory playing out in real time potentially, and maybe this is the final domino.  

[01:06:50] Business Cat:

It feels like it definitely, like, out of left field kind of thing that I didn't I don't feel like anybody was predicting that that this new administration is coming out. Like, oh, yeah. We wanna acquire Greenland. And then Greenland being so receptive about it, they're they're going immediately to Denmark and be, like, we want our independence from you. Stop, like, stop messing with us.  

[01:07:07] Unknown:

Yeah. Dude, this is an over Overton window. It's so weird. Right? This, like, smashed through the Overton window. Yeah. It did. Like, nobody, you know, nobody was thinking about it at all. I was like, oh, yeah. That makes sense. Let's just, you know,   you know, yeah, that makes sense. It's like taking panic.   Oh, so here's another okay. So let me throw another thing at you. K? This is something I've only shared with 1 or 2 people.   Okay? Let me what if Greenland is ends up being like our golf's coach?   What if they off what if they say, hey, Bitcoiners,   we will we will free you from exit tax and they they so Canadian Bitcoiners and US Bitcoiners. Right? Trump administration basically says, go to Greenland. You're free.  

There's nothing there.   Okay? But we'll free you and you can go build it and you can go do whatever the fuck you want over there  

[01:07:57] Business Cat:

and have at it. It's very appealing to me. It's but, like, the question is, yeah, what what elevations are available in Greenland? And, like, the but, like, you're right. That that kind of new   new frontier. Yeah. It's good. It's   it's like I I have always been a fan go heartbeat. I would rather go north than south. I'm all I'm much happier when it's cold than when it's warm. And it like, it's looking like that's the direction. Like, we have Bitcoin miners. We can stay warm. Like, that's what we do. The question is how much power like, we need power to keep the miners on, but, like, staying near the miners, you're gonna be nice and toasty. But, like, that that would be   I don't know. There's I I can't imagine   it would have to be one heck of an incentive to get me to drop Rocky Ridge and move move move on. I think getting I think, being absolved of exit tax is quite an incentive. I'm not worried about exit tax. It's like I'm a big fan. I know you're not. I understand.  

I'm saying though that would get we're talking about how do we get the pioneers to get on the boat and fucking go and build it. I'll tell you what. Like, if if Canada all of a sudden became, like, a viable option like, if if if we could travel to Canada the same way that wagon trip to Ohio,   there's a very there's a much more real chance that I would go just go north to Canada than to out to Greenland.   But I don't know. This is all I don't I haven't thought about that at any kind of seriousness.  

[01:09:08] Unknown:

We can close it here. Maybe you mentioned Alan Farrington. Right?   Shout out.   Maybe   so author of author of the book, Bitcoin is Venice. Mhmm. But maybe the next book is Bitcoin is Greenland.  

[01:09:21] Business Cat:

Greenland.   Well, let's let's read the comments from our, from our year end discussion.  

[01:09:27] Unknown:

Okay. Yeah. Let so are you able to pull that up? Yeah. Yeah. I got it up right here on my phone. Oh, you have it on your phone. Alright. Let me   we're like savages looking at this on our phone. I know. Right? Gotta do we gotta we we gotta get we  

[01:09:39] Business Cat:

gotta up our game and, you know, get Jamie, pull up those, pull up those comments on the screen. We gotta get screenshots. Hold on. Let me How do you wanna let's read from, like, the well, let's let's go from the most sets to the to the minimum sets. And there's let's I'm just gonna read them all because there's not that many.  

[01:09:54] Unknown:

Yeah. Oh, and it I mean, there's a lot, so let the by the way, dude, thank you guys so much. Like, this I don't this is so far in excess of any minimum threshold I would have had for reading reading the boosts. Oh, yeah. We got say how many? We got 62,688   sats, and that includes people who stream on fountain.  

[01:10:16] Business Cat:

So wow. Incredible. And my my internal mental model for the price of a sat is a dollar. So whenever I see, like, oh, we made 62,000 sats from this last episode. We made $62,000   because we dropped the podcast episode. So, like, split 50.50.   30 grand. So, like, you guys paid off a significant amount of my mortgage from this past episode. I love you guys so much. Thank you.  

[01:10:38] Unknown:

For tax purposes, I don't view it as mon I don't even view this as money. I just view it as love.  

[01:10:45] Business Cat:

So thank you guys for the love. Top alright. We have we have 2 posts,   for for 21,000   sats. First one is from Stackitoshi.  

[01:10:53] Unknown:

She got Stackitoshi. Heck, yeah. Great. Love Stackitoshi. Gets you a little closer to escape velocity. It does. It does indeed. Thank you, sir. And let me just say so one of the great things about Stackitoshi   is, if you guys don't know, again, he doesn't like,   he's one of the people that I argue with a lot, and   it's beautiful.   He knows he knows I I, like, I love our relationship.   He'll challenge me, and we'll go at it.   And, you know, and then we'll support each other and everything.   Really glad to have you in our in our in our system. We got 21,000  

[01:11:32] Business Cat:

sats from Rod Palmer, mister Rod Palmer. Shout out, Rod Palmer. His comment is the handshake emoji. Handshake to you, sir.  

[01:11:40] Unknown:

He doesn't wanna be talked about.   He doesn't wanna be talked about, but may you know, maybe one of these days. Dude, love you. Thank you. Oh, such a huge fucking supporter. And,   let me just also say the bugle   gave a very heartfelt,   message to me in their last episode, and, you know, I couldn't re separate it more to you guys.   I'm so fucking blessed to have met you guys, and I'm so  

[01:12:08] Business Cat:

psyched to build with you guys. And it's just I love you. I'm gonna stop reading the amount of sets and just read the the person and the comment. Next one is Shadrach,   and it is   well, he I I can't read this because it it has a curse word, but it's, like, bleeped out. So I'm gonna pronounce it as fucking.   Fucking brilliant guys with a cigarette.   Thank you, sir.   Shadrach's awesome.   Love Shadrach. One of the most based people I've I've met on the space. And, yeah, like, I've the fact that I run into him at meetups and stuff. Yeah. Love you, Shadrach. You're a cool dude. You guys know you're he's a really good cook too. He used to own a restaurant, and, like, he made these lemon tart things that he brought to one of our like, oh my goodness. Yeah. Man can cook.  

[01:12:48] Unknown:

No words. No words.   But I think Shadr   I think Shad and I are on a telepathic   level   with our  

[01:12:56] Business Cat:

with our love for each other. It's a no homo. Mister run dance Bitcoin. Hats off, gentlemen. Extremely inspiring conversation. Love you guys. Love the outro song. Worth every sat.  

[01:13:07] Unknown:

So,   you know, look,  

[01:13:12] Business Cat:

love you, man. Love you, man. Thank you. You did have a really good, song. Like, you're created yeah. Like, there's a reason you were number 1 on on the, on the platform. Well, run the so RunDance.  

[01:13:24] Unknown:

RunDance has the number one song on Waverlyke right now. RunDance   has gotten into the music game and is killing it.   It's his shit is so good that, like, I don't even wanna bother doing it anymore.   Go to Wave Lake,   check out RunDances,   he's got he just kills it with the the with,   in hip hop genre.  

[01:13:47] Business Cat:

We love you, man. We got a comment from Dan, but there's there's no comment. It's just empty. But That's our boy, Dan. So we you know, that's our boy. He's my favorite artist. Yep.   He's, he's also, like, he he's made all of my,   all he I have a rock paper Bitcoin, like, prototype shirt that he made he made me that's amazing.   Yeah. He's he's got skills. What Yeah.   Bread and toast is his comic on Noster that you guys should definitely check out. Much more to come from Dan with us in the future. Agree. God's death. Thank you, gentlemen.  

[01:14:21] Unknown:

Toad's God's death? Oh my god. I thought it was I always thought it was Godseth this whole time.  

[01:14:26] Business Cat:

I mean, I I'm guessing god I'm just reading it phonetically. I'm guessing that's what do you mean God's death? So God's God's death,  

[01:14:33] Unknown:

shout out, by the way. Let me let let me say something real quick because I hung out with him   hung out with him. He's a, he's a mechanic,   and I was I was I was in a shop.   He was the last person to see my car before before,   before I got in the accident. And, you know, he it was like the I've owned this car for 12 years. We had it on the lift and he showed me all everything about it, and I was like, wow. I really got to know it. And I ended up with this whole strategy of what I was gonna do with it. And now he's dead. I texted him. I was like, you are not gonna fucking believe   what just happened.  

But shout out, dude. Like,   fucking great guy and glad to have you just glad to have you in the fold. We've got two comments from Pies back to back. Pies. Merry Christmas and happy New Year. How how do I pronounce that? Is it Pies? Pies? I think it's Pies like Pies on Pies? Pies is the fucking best too, dude. Pies is a guy that's I mean, he's  

[01:15:30] Business Cat:

he supports a lot of great shows. He is, like, every podcast I go on to. Like, if it's lightning enabled, I go in there and it's like him being like, thank you. Like, thanks for this thanks for the job. He's like he is everywhere.  

[01:15:42] Unknown:

Yep. We're proud to be in the Pies boost  

[01:15:45] Business Cat:

ecosystem. His second comment was I mean, so he's referencing here, like, we we talked about being sick last episode. He said, bro, I've been sick for about a month. 2 weeks, all the same symptoms you described, then got better. Then same symptoms replicated themselves. Just not as strong. 100% a fucking bioweapon. These fucking lizard cuts released on us. The same feeling I had with COVID, like a flu that got hacked by a fucking alien entity.  

[01:16:07] Unknown:

Yeah. Yeah. Are you trying to make me do a whole episode now?  

[01:16:11] Business Cat:

An hour and 15 minutes in. Do you want me to respond to this and do another I get, like, wow. Everybody's getting this weird flu. Is this is this the bird flu that we're that we're gonna they're gonna have a vaccine for us to all take in, like, 5 months?   Like, here, that bird flu that you had you had months ago. Here, take a vaccine for it. It's like repeat of what COVID was.  

[01:16:29] Unknown:

Beautiful, dude. Thank you, guys. BTC  

[01:16:32] Business Cat:

onboard,   hashtag l l n hantz or CTV?   And his his comment is zap zap zap emojis.  

[01:16:41] Unknown:

So thank you. You're the only you're the one I don't know who I   I don't I probably do, but I don't. I don't know who that account is, and, dude, welcome aboard.   Thank you so much. Yeah, man.   And look forward and so for everyone out there, I wanna put out again, we do I do,   my boy Paul   has his Thursday Zoom. Many of you guys have come on.   It's great.   We'll put it in the show notes with Thursday night Zoom. Thursday at 7 o'clock, I'm always there pretty much. And, a lot of us a lot of us come on. It's great talk, and   it's actually one of the ways   I source   conversation material for the show,   you know, get very deep into,   into a lot of these issues.  

And,   you know, there's, like, a lot of like, I I guess I've said this a couple of times in the episode. Like, put you got   like, put yourself on the visible spectrum if you're comfortable.   It's a cool world with it's a cool world when we're interacting with each other.  

[01:17:44] Business Cat:

This is a, showing up as a comment, but it's, from Dan. He he clipped the show and, so this is the comment from the clip that he made. That's right. Thank you. This is the moment I listened to a few times. It contains a lot of meaning for me. Thank you. And so I listened to that clip and I'll just say this is the clip about how  

[01:18:00] Unknown:

we don't know how to live this life.   We are, like, artists like, as an example, like, artists know they have to live a certain life to have access to creativity. We don't fucking know. So I'd love to reiterate that,   reinforce that, and Dan, I guess that resonated because Dan's an artist. Dan's a very   excellent   excellent artist. Yeah.   And,   you know, thanks for letting us know that that resonated with you. When I hear when I see peep it doesn't happen that often, but when I see people do clips, it really lets me know what's resonating   and means a lot.  



[01:18:32] Business Cat:

We got 2 more.   Little Kev, lots of nuggets in this one, in Dennis We Trust.  

[01:18:38] Unknown:

Nice. So I guess little Kev, I I don't know you, but I see you   interacting, engaging on, like, Twitter and Noster and stuff. Thank you.  

[01:18:46] Business Cat:

And, Average Gary. What math do I need to learn to grok snore and other cryptographic signatures? So I'm guessing this is this is a comment that started your guys' conversation. Larry left that comment and then he calls me and then that was it and then boom. We got a show. We're just gonna start recording on Monday. Right.  

[01:19:02] Unknown:

That's the power of this show.  

[01:19:04] Business Cat:

And you guys It's good to put your intentionality out there because, like, if if the right person's listening, it's, like, boom. The fire starts.  

[01:19:11] Unknown:

Right. But, like, engage with us. Like, I think you're gonna find shit gets done, and we need shit to get done. We don't know how to live this life, but we know we we just have to start we just have to build. We're we're all figuring out the new architect the new archetypes together  

[01:19:24] Business Cat:

because hope I mean, it's cool to disappear. Everybody, like, it's it's fun to to fantasize about, like, disappearing into the into the sunset with your with your wealth and and, like, whatever. I'm going. But   I don't think that's a realistic option for a lot of people living in the age of the Internet.  

[01:19:41] Unknown:

Oh, and by the way, like, in the age of,   in the age of telepathy,   can you really disappear?  

[01:20:38] Unknown:

Did you see Taylor live?   It's Fashion Week, celebs lose ribs. Balenciaga,   how's the kids? Just a straight key's nose and beef. Kendrick killed him and they sneaked. This track's about beating lock your queen. More women dying doesn't cause a scene.   More were fed all these distractions.   Kids are killed from Israel's actions. I'm a speak my mind,   seek to death all these crazy lies.