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Broadcasts live every Thursday at 8:00p.m. uk time on Radio Soapbox: http://radiosoapbox.com

In this Remembrance Day special, we slow down for two minutes of birdsong at 11:00 and reflect on war beyond the Hollywood versions: the trauma borne by veterans and families, the propaganda that sells conflict, and the way official narratives shape memory. From Hastings to Malta and the Burma Railway, from the East India Company to modern psy‑ops and media “nudges,” we question who benefits, who pays, and why uncomfortable records are still sealed. It’s an unhurried, breakfast‑time ramble: tea versus coffee, early starts, listeners checking in on Rumble and YouTube. Along the way we touch on Alec Penstone’s stark TV moment, the ethics of remembrance, the psychology of crowds and “leadership,” and how communities might quietly build resilience—being more like water—amid fifth‑generation warfare and information manipulation.

[00:00:04] Unknown:

And good morning, everybody.   Which is,   well, let me just check a few things here. Something's not quite working right. And good morning, everybody. Oh, as you can see. Which is,   well, let me just check a few things here. Something's not quite working right. I know. We're going everybody. Oh, good morning. Which   is,   well, let me just check a few things here. Something's not quite working right. I know. We're going everybody. Oh, that is fine.   Don't worry. We're gonna get on top of this. So early morning starts when some of those   some of those bugger things up. There we go. Don't worry. We're gonna get on top of this. So early morning starts when some of those   There we go.  

And, good morning, Eric. How are you this morning?  

[00:00:49] Unknown:

I mustn't grumble. And good morning, Paul. Little early and very, very different to, what we normally have, but,   welcome everybody   and to this remembrance special,   or shall we say alternative remembrance, I think we should call it. And,   how's things with yourself, Paul?  

[00:01:08] Unknown:

Well, it's a beautiful morning here.   I was up late last night talking to some buggers on the radio. I can't remember what was going on.   Got a good night got a good night's kip.   Quite early for me because I shot off and I think I hit the hay about quarter past eleven, which is very early. I'm not normally   nodding off until about 12:30, one in the morning, something like that.   Beautiful morning, still mild, sun we always like to start with the weather, don't we? It's how we sort of settle into all of this. Yes. That's right.   And I've had no breakfast.  

Sometimes I do, sometimes I don't. Breakfast has been, so far, two pints of tea. Hopefully, don't get any sort of repercussions of that during the show and have to leg it for the loo. I don't think so. I've got good bladder control. This is very important for everybody to know this.   And yeah. So this is, this is a breakfast special in a way. Or or a Yes. A break. What did you have for did you have have you had breakfast? That's what I want to know. I've had breakfast. I had a I had a very hearty meal. And also, I had your special coffee, which is the coffee with coconut,  

[00:02:10] Unknown:

oil,   and butter.   So beautiful.   I've gone off of milk now. I'm I'm not bothering with milk. It's the first time in my life I've got into black coffee. So there we go. Oh, cool. Thanks to you. Yeah. No. I'm I'm I'm some use. I am of some use. We've got some,  

[00:02:27] Unknown:

we've got some really   by the way, shout out to everybody on Rumble and YouTube for getting up or not going into work. We're trying to find out how many people actually have a proper job. Yes. We're we're not expecting a huge audience. We're not expecting a huge audience. This might it doesn't matter. We're also going out of a radio soapbox,   which is good.   And I think really, you know, almost like for sort of breakfast radio stuff, Eric.   Radio's cool, actually.   Although, of course I like it. Yeah. Me too. We can bumble around a bit and and do certain things. And   so,   we've got some fine coffee in the house, but I didn't have coffee this morning. So tea, first thing for me. I need I need tea to start off with. Coffee's about   I might go make a cup during the show. No. Probably at the end. About 11:30. Yeah. Time for a cup of coffee then when we've closed up or whatever. So,  

[00:03:16] Unknown:

but I'm a tea holic as well. I mean, I was brought up on tea,   and coffee was for posh people when I was a kid. I suppose it is similar to yourselves. Any posh people have coffee. We have tea.   But I've noticed we're picking up in rumble. We got,   quite a few listeners in rumble. I've just sort of greetings there. So if you could hear us, say hello in chat. And,   but by the way, well, I'm, what, about 70 miles north of yourself.   Oh, yeah.   And it's nice sunny where you are. And   at Fockem Hall Heights, it's overcast and looking pretty drab.   So  

[00:03:52] Unknown:

Well,   I'm gonna have to practice my weather report thing, but there's a light westerly breeze   skimming across the front of the seafront.   A little cloud cover but,   breaking up, sun shining through, birds singing in the trees.   A little bit damp but not cold.   And remember, it's cold out there so put your winter warmers on. It's not it's actually not cold today. I've still got the shorts on. Here we are. So I'm doing quite well now. Yeah. Yeah. I'm not I normally won't make it to December because we'll get a cold snap at some point. But,   Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, so,   and we've con why have we convened today's show, Eric? Why have we come why have we done that? What's the tradition for you? Because you you've done this for a few years, haven't you? And I I'm glad to join you really on this  

[00:04:39] Unknown:

Well on this day. I've always done alternative   alternative   remembrance   because Yeah. We hear the voice   of the   establishment   broadcasters,   because there's two versions   of war,   and that is what really happened   and the Hollywood version. And unfortunately, the vast majority of the population   believe the Hollywood version.   For example,   none of us know anybody   that was alive during the American Civil War.   So our immediate thoughts, if somebody mentions the American Civil War, is Hollywood,   because that's all we   we've been brainwashed with. But if it was possible to bring alive a veteran of the American Civil War, they'd probably look at the Hollywood version and say, oh, rubbish.   The same as my father did when he saw the Hollywood version of World War   two,   because the establishment have a lot to hide.  

And that's why there's still a lot from World War two, which is still under the Official Secrets Act. You can't get records   of it. It's very interesting. Why?   After what, eighty years?   There's something very   and would that be,   Sefton Del Mar, something to do with him?  

[00:05:52] Unknown:

I think so. It probably would be too. Yeah. He definitely has a role in it. I think line maintenance has got to occupy a reasonable   chunk of their budget because it's Yes. It's ongoing in so many areas, not just even with regards to the warfare   incidents that this nation has been involved with, which is sort of off the charts.   I mean, there are,   obviously, there's all sorts of things. But   if you anybody that grazes around YouTube from time to time, no doubt you all do that.   One of the things that pops up on my feed,   there's a there's a video going around the number of countries that Britain has invaded. Have you have you seen that one?  



[00:06:29] Unknown:

I haven't seen it, but,   I think there's only two that we we haven't. Isn't it? I think it's Portugal and, Portugal. Yeah.   Yeah. I think that's the only one. There's another one somewhere, but I I don't know where. But we've invaded always. We're quite rather warlike, aren't we? You know?  

[00:06:43] Unknown:

Well, I think it all depends, I guess, what you think has been driving you all. If you actually meet English, normal English, Scots, Welsh, and Northern Irish and Irish people from these islands, although we are have some fire in our bellies and we need more of that at the moment, of course, you wouldn't say, well, these are people that wanna go out and just sort of start waging war everywhere. Obviously, there's another there's another force at play here that's kicked in. But, yeah, I'm sure we could find a good reason to go to war with Portugal if you could kind of we could think of something, Eric.   Makes me think of something. Yes. Yeah. I think there's basically, it's the Portuguese and the Eskimos are about the only people that we've not had a scrap with, I think. I mean, it's sort of Yeah. Yeah.  

Very it's to do with getting boats. No doubt. It's to do with getting boats in considerable numbers before anybody else did   and going, oh, you know, and then you've got the Industrial Revolution and somebody some little chunk down there in London, that little city place   has been has been really infested with,   almost like the globalist ideology for a long time. Ever you could, in fact, argue that it was ever since the formation of the East India Company in 1600.   That's how old this is. 1600, it was formed. So that's before the end of the civil war. Four hundred and twenty five years ago.  

[00:07:55] Unknown:

Long time back. Really? And they had their own army as well, didn't they? They they they were huge. But,   I actually think the last   just war, if there is such a thing, that we fought and unfortunately lost, was October,   because we were genuinely being invaded then. And it was on a knife edge. We almost,   almost repelled the Normans.   And it's just because   the English army were exhausted because they'd fought a battle up north   Mhmm. In a place on Enbridge,   and marched down   to the south   and fought a second battle.   But the other reason is because,   we broke rank when we shouldn't have done. Because many of the people,   there was not only English   by our sides were Scots and Irish and Welsh, because they knew that if we fell, they would fall.  

And there was different accents and things, and what happened is the Normans   turned tall and started to run, and we broke rank and chased them, which they wanted us to do. And, of course, they came around in a pincer movement and destroyed  

[00:09:03] Unknown:

the English army. And that was it. That's so that's Yeah. So it is a big deal. It is a big deal. I mean, I was thinking as well, all this sort of   in all these places that we've been,   prior to that,   you've got to go back two thousand years now, which of course most of us don't including me. Although I was stumbling across something. There's the legend of   Hengist and Horsa. Don't know if you ever heard this.   Two Saxon lords. Yes. Yeah. It's   much of I think there are sort of places is it Kent?  

[00:09:36] Unknown:

There might be a stone That's right. The bottom of the stone.  

[00:09:39] Unknown:

That's right. Yeah. Yes. Now this we're talking   literally 2,000 years ago, sort of 100, one fifth, something like that.   And and these islands were getting invaded regularly. It's almost as if we were taking a lot of invasions   from all the Jutes and the Angles and the Saxons and all this. And everybody thinks it was relatively peaceful. It wasn't, actually.   There was a lot of fighting took place. There was a lot of betrayal,   by by the Brits,   as well as the other side. You know, they they'd make agreements, then they'd break them, you know. I think there was one the the thing I was watching was where there'd been some scrapping.   I can't remember the name of the king. He promised some land to Hengist and Horsa, then decided he didn't want to give it to them. So they all somehow they all made up but they didn't make up because they were all invited to a feast   and, Hengist and the horses lads, they all brought some daggers and at a suitable time, I suppose after eight pints of wine had been consumed or something, they   they slaughtered everybody. They'd had enough. So this sort of a fury   is nothing I mean, it's nothing new and unique to these islands, but,   maybe it's because we were on the receiving end so much that, you know, it it went out the other way. It's a desperately sad theory. I don't really subscribe to it myself. I'm just sort of shooting my mouth off here on a Tuesday morning. But,   yeah.  



[00:11:01] Unknown:

That's that's a coincidence.   Seriously, that's a fantastic coincidence because whilst I was eating my breakfast this morning, I was actually watching a video about those two characters that you just mentioned. Isn't that an amazing coincidence?   Really? Yeah. Yeah. It is. Yeah. Yeah. It was on YouTube, and I was sitting there sort of scoffing away going, that's interesting. You know?   But, really, when they say we've been invaded, yes, we've been invaded by fellow Europeans,   which had a culture that was very similar to ours. Mhmm.   Because Europe is But I think it is the first time in history   now that we're being invaded by a culture that is completely alien to ours.  

And that is the most frightening thing.  

[00:11:45] Unknown:

It is. Although, I I don't know. Do you think the word invasion's right? Because I I kinda don't. I know people use it.   An invasion would be where we saw the massing at some point and every and the flag goes over, we go, we're being invaded, you know, let's defend ourselves.   This is something much more subtle and therefore   much more devastating in a way or or is gonna go that way because   there's still only although I I think he's going in the right direction. A relatively small amount of people who are prepared to speak out about this is increasing, though. There have been lots of good signs recently as we report, I think, in both of our shows, you know.   But,   I was watching something the other day. How are you doing? Watching The Jolly Heretic. I've forgotten his real name. But do you know the Jolly Heretic? Oh, yes.  

At Professor Edward Dutton. Very bright guy. He speaks very very quickly. Oh, very very   quickly. Perfect. Because he's Yes. He gets exhausted with people speaking slowly because his brain's running on whatever it's running on high speed turbocharged synaptic connections.   And,   he was talking about   woke people.   I'll send you the I'll send you the link at some point. It was a fifteen minute extract from an interview with Andrew Gold, who seems to have a thriving,   YouTube channel over here. Lots of people recommend him to me, but I don't have time to watch all these things. But, I caught this little sort of fifteen minute clip   and it was talking about the whole about how traitors develop within   tribes. It's very interesting,   because they've always been with us. Really? Yeah. They've always been with every tribe. And it's to do with, like, the pecking order of who's the strongest.  

Who's, you know in other words, I I would suggest you and I are conservative. I don't mean politically. I mean by orientation.   We're saying   I agree with it. Yes. We are. Yeah. And we we are traditionalists in the best sense of the word. Not not to keep going traditions that are obviously dangerous and silly, but to say, look, our forefathers actually sort of went through these things directly   and the way that life structured now is a direct result of what they learned through experience. And so it's long and and we're bred long in the bone with this stuff. It's sort of part of your genetic imprint when you arrive here as an Englishman or a Scotsman or a Welshman or a man or woman of Ireland, Northern Ireland.   And I think, the same goes for all the other countries of Europe. You sort of pick that up.  

But what occurs   is that the weak   begin to   they will actually form alliances with other tribes.   They do it. I mean and this is nothing new. It goes all the way back even to sort of the Greek myths and tragedies, you know. Even what's the tale of the Spartans? The 300 Spartans. They the reason that they finally got done over,   was that they were betrayed by one of their own, weren't they, who was dissatisfied with the way he was being treated   by King Leonidas,   for all sorts of reasons. Oh, morning seagulls. Don't know if you caught that. I have, seaside morning Right. That that's  

[00:14:45] Unknown:

fantastic. Oh, by the way, we've gotta say good morning who's on YouTube at the moment Mhmm. To our good friend,   Mark Anthony. Good morning, Mark. Thanks for Yeah. Morning, Mark. Putting in. Yes.  

[00:14:57] Unknown:

Well, yeah. And,  

[00:14:59] Unknown:

he is absolutely   brilliant   at genius at prompts.   For example, if you can't remember a name or something, boom, up it comes in chat. You know?   He's he's excellent at that. But I noticed the viewing figures are picking up on both sides. That's looking very healthy. And I think we're gonna get a lot a big audience,   possibly this evening, when people will listen to the recording. I think that's when and I usually found that overnight, we get a bigger audience because it's the Southern Hemisphere.   People are listening in the Southern Hemisphere while they're asleep. Yeah. You're right. I mean, yeah.  

[00:15:32] Unknown:

Good morning, Blu ray. Is it Blu ray? Hi. Yeah. Good morning, Blu ray.   Blu ray? Well, of course, those American types are all still in Slumberland. I mean, it's outrageous that they haven't bothered to set their alarm clocks and get up in the middle of the night to tune into us and all that stuff. But between you and I, Patrick is awake now because he's just sent messages. He's very sad.  

[00:15:52] Unknown:

He's very sad. That must be what? All four or something ridiculous  

[00:15:55] Unknown:

Yeah. In a in a moment. Absolutely. Yeah. He's well, he's on a he's on central time, so we're six hours ahead of him. So it's, 04:45   in the morning.   Yeah.   You'll be fit for now for rest of day, lad. It's terrible.   Aye.   Will you get back to sleep?  

[00:16:14] Unknown:

Well, 06:00 is eleven's is, you know.   But now when when you look at,   splinter groups. For example, look at the scouts.   Now, what happened,   by the way, Patrick's asked, who whose studio are we using?  

[00:16:28] Unknown:

The I think you've got that one. Yes. If you wanna call in to the show, by the way, if you're if you're if you're getting all the sleep out of your eyes and you've had a cup of coffee   or you're still lollygagging in bed or whatever, you could you can call in. I'm not putting it on the screen today. Just go to paulenglishlive.com.   There's a link there to call into the show. It'll bring you into the studio here and you can say a word or two or you can just tell us what you had for breakfast if you like.   We are gonna have two minutes silence at 11:00. It won't be absolute silence because as as we discussed, as Eric,   mentioned, two minutes of silence on the radio is actually not what radio is for. It doesn't   it doesn't really work. That's right. So we've got we've got a nice recording of, English,   birds in the meadow,   which we're gonna play for two minutes.  

And you can make of that what you will, really, because although   last night's show was really good in terms of discussing, you know,   the whole problem with government,   for all nations really being the enemy, you know, the organizing force that pulls men into action and makes them slaughter one another,   My sympathies and my thoughts are still with all these people that have gone through all this kind of stuff. Whether they were right or wrong is not the point.   I guess people may we all make decisions on what we think we're we know at the time, don't we? We think we kinda know what's going on, but but we don't.   And this is the reason why history becomes fascinating but also rather depressing   when you realize that many of our previous generations were being deceived left, right, and center. And I think we have to assume that we are being deceived as well, although   not to the degree   that previous generations had because at least we've got these sorts of connection points   to talk these things through, and we've got a lot of eyeballs out on all these other sort of areas of hidden history making it far less hidden and getting a little bit more sort of coherent and knowledgeable about about the state of play. I think the the current one, Eric, which I know you're aware of,   where the great a great,   information deception is taking place is this   war in The Ukraine,   so called. Correct.  



[00:18:36] Unknown:

Correct. And this is what I wanna find out more about.   That's,   so, you know,   if people would like to call it especially if you have a father   or knowledge of what's happening in Ukraine.   That would be interesting. Somebody that might have a a relative there or or or whatever. That would be interesting. And sorry to stop you in mid mid mid flow in the area, but I just think, you know, but I think that,   if you've got a connection,   especially with the first or second World War or modern wars, Ukraine or even Vietnam, because I'm hoping to get Eli   on the show soon to talk about his experiences in Vietnam because he was what they call a grunt. He was actually at the front line.  

I'm not sure if he was in the Marines, but he was, you know, a front line trooper.   So that will be very, very interesting, because   it's like survival Steve, he's been in the front line as well, and you get a very different view if someone's been in the front line.   They've been there, seen it. And I don't know whether your dad got this, but my father especially used to get people telling him what happened who weren't there, and he was actually there. And the frustration   was horrendous,   because   how he took it, I really don't know. He he had the he had the patience of a saint. But people were quite rude to him often and would disagree with him. Oh, no. It's right. It's on there. No. I was there.   I was actually there. And I remember a neighbor,   telling him well, there there was a neighbor that used to say, oh, my my, I don't know, some relative, say brother, I don't know, or cousin, was in Gibraltar during the war and never saw any action at all. And my dad said, no. I was in Malta, which is the most heaviest bombed   place in World War two. More bombs fell on Malta than fell on London during the blitz. And she's Right. Oh, yeah. But, yeah, but but my my my cousin was in was in Gibraltar. And he said, no. He said, oh, and he kept on all the time. I was not in Gibraltar. I was in Malta. And then the neighbor told the people   around the area that my dad was in Gibraltar when he was actually in Malta. And people thought, oh, my dad's just sucking up stuff. Mhmm. Horrendous.  

Yep. Because there's a there's a quite I don't know how many miles it is, about a thousand miles or so from Malta to Gibraltar.   And this is the things and I think this woman did it deliberately just to wind him up, because her husband,   was exempt from the war, because, medically unfit.   And, you know, because they felt, oh, they're missing out on something. And that's the thing. I think, I mean, that as an anecdote  

[00:21:10] Unknown:

illustrates   a lot of things, doesn't it? It did to me as I'm listening to you. I know I've heard I've heard you say it before, and I don't mind you saying it again in the future either because I think these things need to be repeated. And,  

[00:21:23] Unknown:

this  

[00:21:25] Unknown:

non competence   and all the sort of little petty jealousies that arise   or envy for credit not due, etcetera etcetera. I mean, this is going on all the time with us as a creature, as an animal, isn't it? It's there's nothing new with that.   You know, people return from war and are treated poorly. I don't think there's anything new with not always.   Certainly not if you're the top brass. You get to ride on a big horse at a parade and put medals on your chest and everybody tells you how fabulous you are,   and you're quite pleased about it because you're not one of the millions that are dead that you were organizing and all that kind of stuff. But there's there are all these tensions that are going on and it's as if the real wars on our,   I know this sounds a little bit enlightened and well, but it is it is on our on our consciousness.  

And,   if people are not aware of what's going on, everybody sort of gets   it's very easy to have your brain hijacked by your emotions.   And that's That's right.   You know, all the time, that will never ever stop your entire life. I mean, I'm always trying to sometimes go, why am I getting angry about that? Stop it. Because, you know, it takes it's taken me donkey's years really and probably still keeps going on and and it's an individual fight we've all got to go, this is really not helping, Paul.   Short response here is really stupid, actually.   So I've still got lots of stupidity to wash out of my system and and I I Oh, that's right. Yeah. You get caught, don't you? Every now and again, they hijack your emotions with something deadly,   because it's bound to do that. You know, the first our primal instinct is to survive and and it's as if that survival instinct is   is amplified, you know. This is why people get under a lot of stress and anxiety at work. I remember talking about this years ago with a group and they're saying that people respond, you know, in pressure situations almost as if a tiger had come into the room.  

You know, you you have an   overreaction.   It's like you can't see you can't see it straight   because you're fearful of losing your job. This is a great fear   that's applied to people in Civvy Street. But it is a type of warfare. You could actually say that everything is about dealing with the conflicts that come up during the day and some of them are fun in the sense that they're handleable and you can laugh about them afterwards. But when it's war, it's not fun because, you know, at the end of the day, you're looking on the battlefield or wherever   or down the street that's been bombed, and there's a lot of dead people in bits all over the place. And that's   that's not pleasant, you know. I don't you know, I I won't get started because you can't describe that fully, but it's it's not I know what you mean.  



[00:24:00] Unknown:

But the thing what it is is that the,   media people   make war look like a fun game. Oh, look at that. It's like paint   you know, this idea of people   freaking paint with each other and things like that.   And I can't understand these reenactors and people but, again, it's not for me to criticize. Everybody's different. But the only experience I've ever had, which I wouldn't say is war, was when I worked in Longacre,   just around   well, you know, they have these   buildings in London where you have voids, like light voids in the center, don't you? Mhmm. Where you have sort of built well, I was working, strange enough, in an office where Yogi Baird made the first television broadcast. Oh, okay. I'll show you. Yeah. And this was when I was working, doing a contract,   for London Underground   because after the King's Cross fire, they needed to upgrade 96 stations. And, of course, they got loads and loads of freelance blokes in. Opened this off owned up an office, and we're all working there on on on that. But Yep. And none of us,   we we've have we're from   areas   like, you know,   with with architecture. We we we didn't know about sort of stews or anything like that. But anyway, that's beside the point.  

Allegedly, the it was the IRA, I don't know, but a bomb went off the opposite side of the void where I was.   And it was lunchtime,   and I thought the window was gonna come in. And there was it wasn't a bang. It was a it was a thud. And I knew immediately it was a bomb, even though I'd never experienced that in my life before. It was so different to anything else you remember.   And you could then hear fire alarms going   off, but I threw myself to the ground, and   the wind because it is,   old fashioned windows, you know, sash core windows that we had, and they they were rattling. I thought that was gonna come in on me. And I was actually talking to someone on the phone. I said, excuse me. I think a bomb's gone off. Yes. Now apart drawing number three two yeah. Excuse me. I think a bomb's gone off. Yes. Anyway, as I was saying, apart from the bomb,   and I just slammed the phone down in the end.  

And, you know, what happens is immediately,   it's not a shock, but you your stomach rolls. You think, bloody hell. This is dangerous. I could've get I could've got killed there. And there's a feeling you can't explain, and that is very, very mild to what people experienced on the battlefield. In fact, so mild, it is it's an embarrassment mentioning it. But you know what I mean? Mhmm. If anybody else has been involved like that, and we all ordered out the building, and we all had to stand around the cording corner,   and people went quiet because I thought, bloody hell, we could be in the target zone. There could be another bomb where we're standing.  

You know? And your your imagination goes wild. So that's the only experience I've had, the closest I've ever been, which is again is a bit of an embarrassment to to to mention because it's nothing compared with  

[00:26:53] Unknown:

what people went through during World War Two. Well, I hope that is the worst of it for you and for everybody. We don't but right now, you know, we know there are parts of the world where people are just literally getting blown to pieces.   And   it's all, you know, like we were talking about last night. It's it's for   the extension of power and control by certain groups that can't live, it would appear, without that sense of power over other people.   I mean, I'm no doubt there's all sorts of studies of it, but it's it's a systemized approach that I I do think that the best policy is to run away. I don't think it's cowardly.   What's the point of actually pretending that you can deal with people that are maniacs? You can't. I think there has to be other ways to actually undermine   their approach. And of course, you know, on your show and mine and others, people are talking about this all the time, which is great.  

It's certainly being talked about to a degree that it was never talked about before. So there is an ever it's slow but it's speeding up a sort of growing away awareness   of the of the issue of government. I mean, I was thinking, we're just coming up. We've got a couple of minutes and we're gonna go to two minutes silence here. Right. Two minutes of birdsong. I'll I'll just ease us in. Excellent. But I was there was a and we can talk about this afterwards. I've got a clip to play after the silence. We're we're gonna address something that was said on, media last week. It's, it's a telling little quote. But I was thinking this morning actually haven't pulled any sound clips from it. It's occurring to me now as we're doing the show.   There was this film put together by Peter Jackson called They Shall Never Grow Old, which was about World War one.  

And   the reason why it's compelling and maybe if we do a follow-up show, I might even have these for Thursday.   They interviewed lots of World War one veterans in the early nineteen sixties. The BBC did these gentlemen were still alive,   and what they say is not what people would expect them to say.   Most of them were extremely   buoyant   about   going off to war.   It's a strange thing. We mentioned it last night, didn't we, that that one of the compulsions was to get fed.   They weren't eating well on Sibby Street. So That's right. Eating well was a tremendously attractive thing.   They were fed up of being hungry all the time. They got fed well in the army, and they and I remember there's one quote of a guy.  

I think he said he was 19 years of age. They're heading to the front. He could hear the bombs going off.   And he was desperate that the war wouldn't end before he got there.   That's what he was saying. He said, we're going down the road and the people coming back and he said, what's it like up there? He says, bloody hell, mate, and all that kind of stuff.   And and he thought, great. I'm getting near to it. He   and you're thinking Oh, it was excitement.  

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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Because remember the last war   had been what?   Walter Lowe. Mhmm. That was over, what, how many years before first first World War? It's about ninety years. We hadn't actually had a war. We got fifteen seconds before we go to silence. So I'll And, Patrick's just turned up. Patrick's in the studio, by the way. Okay. So we're just coming up to 11AM. We're gonna play some birdsong. This is two minutes of silence.  

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Two minutes of birdsong. And we'll be back after this.  

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Excellent.  

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And that's   in honor and respect of all the people whose lives were cut short by   the Dread Wars, all of them.   Nice nice bird song. I've just said,  

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let's   let's bless every innocent person that's ever been involved in conflict, whether they're civilian   or armed forces, because   for every one person killed,   there's a grieving mother,   wife,   family,   and etc.   And that's something that shouldn't be forgotten and also   it affects further future generations.   That's something that's very much overlooked,   and war isn't a game.  

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No, it's not. It's, an extremely   yeah, it's a dreadful thing. It's a dreadful thing. Thank  

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Thanks for that Paul, that's very poignant. That was that's brilliant. That was just right, you know. So I'm a little bit choked.  

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It gets me because, Well, there's something about birdsong. I think there really is. I think it's very appropriate. I think, I was reading actually somewhere that a vet was talking about,   when he has to go visit owners where he's got to put their pets down because they're, you know, beyond recovery.   And,   he plays birdsong   and it calms the creek the animal down and the owner at the same time. They just all get very calm.   And it seems to have that effect on every because it's just a natural sound. And, it's also it sounds like a sound of recovery as well. You do think about those battlefields. And when all when it's all goes silent, the birds come back, the flowers start to grow again, and things regenerate as they always have.   It's not much compensation for the people who've just lost their lives. I think, you know, it's like they say, it's the ones that are left. There was,   there is a documentary series kicking around. Well, that guy from EastEnders, I'm sorry to lower the tone so much, but he went off to Afghanistan and spent time with squadies out there.  

It's it's really extremely interesting.   Interesting is not exactly the right word. Compelling stuff, actually. Yeah. And and the main point that comes across   I mean, they lost a couple of guys there.   One lad, 19,   and there was an interview with his mother. This is so this is about 02/1956,   or '7, so about twenty years ago.   And got to see and his mother's basically, you know, obviously,   it's never life's never gonna be the same again, particularly when, obviously,   soldiers are always young.   They're always young. 19. There's no age to be getting shot dead and,   the whole incident was in the documentary,   and how they tried to save him. They couldn't.  

He'd taken a bullet through the side of his,   not from   the front where his his armor would have protected him. It'd gone through the side and that was that.   And,   she was just talking about this, you know. She never expected   to be in this situation. And I think that's what the shock is about. I mean, you can well, time heals everything. Well, it does, but you can't bring   them back. Well,  

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yes and no. Because,   what happened is people say, like, if a bomb goes off in London, or for whatever reason,   they say, oh, the people will remember this for the rest of their lives, and they have counseling, and this that's one incident.   As my father used to say,   I had this for six years of my life, every day.   Six years. And you think even if you're a civilian,   you had doodlebugs coming over and all kinds of things like that. But there's one poignant thing that I do remember when I was very young, it must have been before I started   school even though, so I must have been about three or four years of age   both my parents are very I come from a musical family, and it didn't rub off on me. I don't play a musical instrument, but I don't know why, I just didn't.  

And my mother used to my father and my mother used to play the piano accordion. Mother used to play the piano, so did the father.   And we were around my   auntie's place. She used to live in Stevenage   Yeah. In Hertfordshire.   And there was a an old first World War veteran   there,   who was a neighbor, friend, I can't remember, but it doesn't really matter.   And   my parents   were- I think my mum was on the piano, my dad was on the   piano accordion. I can't remember- as I say, I was so young.   And they played When the Poppies Bloom Again,   and this old veteran tears are rolling down his   cheeks.  

And I've never forgotten that. I was very young at the time,   so it must have brought back some memories of the first World War trenches.  

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It's a shock, isn't it? When you're young,   it's a shock when you see grown ups crying. Men.   At first, the first time you ever see it. Because, well, we're blokes. We don't do that kind of thing, but it does happen.   And it's appropriate.   And, you know, of course, particularly around here in Britain, you don't do that stiff upper lip, lad. We don't need any of that kind of stuff. Well, I was so young and this young right.  

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To see this elderly man with just tears rolling down is, oh god. It it it it's to say it's one of my earliest memories.   I mean, it's quite poignant. You know? Mhmm. But you're right. We're stiff upper lip men don't do that, and they didn't do that in year   years ago. So it must have been something, but I probably said this before.   There was a lot of First World War veterans that lived around where my auntie lived, and there was one   sorry. No. This is Chapman near lived near where I live. And he had a,   when he looked at his head, above his eye,   his his skull was sort of concave.  

It was weird. It is concave.   And apparently, what happened is that as he went to go over the top, they blew the whistle for him to climb up the ladders and then go over the top Mhmm. During the first World War.   There was a massive explosion. He was knocked back into the trench, and there was a piece of shrapnel   that hit him   in the top of the head. Yeah. And, apparently, officers used to go along because poor sods who were terrified would get back into the trench, and they used to get their gun out and order them over the top.   And this officer came up to this chap who was lying on his back with blood pouring out of his head, and he said, get over the top. He said, look. I'm wounded. He said, get over the top or I'll kill you.  

And he took a safety catch off of his gun, and he was about to shoot.   So he had to go over the top holding this piece of shrapnel   as he ran forward.   Yeah.   Just imagine that. And luckily, he was saved, obviously. He wouldn't have thought that, but he said that that's what it was like. The officers   because it was so scary,  

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they would not allow us so if you could stand up, you went over the top. That's It's a long chain of violence, isn't it? From the officer behind his desk with a pen issuing an order,   and everybody then is fearful down the line of losing their job or also getting a bullet. So the   the the gun is metaphorically pointed at the next person to be on the receiving end of it until the grunt, as it were, the infantryman goes over the top and dies anyway.   I mean, some of the things in the first World War are horrific. I mean, you know, you think about those young lads that were just   shot for cowardice, 16, 17 years of age. I mean, it's just by your own people.  

By your own people who you're who you're doing your best to help.   I think it's the most it's the foulest of all things. It's like as if friendly fire is the worst. It's all bad but it's, you know, it's a ridiculous situation.   So it is it's that psychopathic element in your own   governmental power centers that's that's part of all of this nonsense.   And yet, you know, it seems to have been unavoidable   all the time down here as far as we know. You know, where I I suppose really ancient historians are trying to find a period when it didn't happen. You go back to Greece and all those philosophers, you think, well, they're pretty bright. Well, there were the Peloponnesian wars.   It's going on. It never stops. It never seems to stop. That's right.  

And we've got this bizarre scene.   Yeah. Sorry.  

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Well, so what I was gonna say is I think it's the psychopath element that's doing it. Because psychopaths seem to have this hypnotic effect on people,   and they can turn the most placid person into an absolute   monster overnight. And I've witnessed it in offices where I've worked.   But there there's something about the effect of a psychopath.   Not all psychopaths, but the predatory types, the ones that get to the top of the greasy pole. And I think that's the problem.  

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Because Well, I suppose, you know, you could say that they thrive in war situations. They're they're not all Yeah.   You know, do you need a few in your army? Well, you've probably got a few whether you like it or not.   People who seem to be impervious to danger or have got that attitude where,   you know, they're not emotionally connected to the outcome or something. They just do things in a berserk way.   And then, of course, they get lauded as heroes, and you could say that they are. It's not an easy topic to talk about.   I mean, you know, from a distance, here we are talking about it theoretically. I've not been in a situation like that. But, you know, when you when you get a lot of people together and something kicks off, you've gotta you gotta look after yourself because   it's like there is this sort of animal madness comes over the crowd.  

And we mentioned it before, haven't we? You know, most I think there was a thing.   They did this   survey of all the infantrymen   across all sides after World War two,   and they discovered   the top brass on all sides discovered much to their horror   that the vast majority, over 50%   of the soldiers that fought were not shooting to kill.   They weren't doing that. They didn't they didn't like it. They didn't but as you've mentioned before, their heroism in saving their wounded comrades   or anybody that was wounded   is off the charts because there's this natural instinct to preserve life.   And that's what makes it, you know, such a ridiculous situation.  



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Thanks, mate, for mentioning that because, well first of all,   Mark Anthony has said something in fantastic in chat. He said, The trauma your father and other veterans went through was summed up in the image you had on last night's show, Eric. Their suffering should never be forgotten. Well, that was an image of a young boy,   in German uniform who had wet himself,   and he was absolutely terrified. And there was a   a another soldier next to him. Now whether that soldier was   shouting at him, whether he's trying to console him, I I do we do not know. But that picture just about sums it up.   And,   it's   that's the thing. It's trauma.  

And that trauma the war the guns may stop at a certain time at the eleventh hour,   on the eleventh day, but that war still goes on in the hearts and minds   of those that suffer   post traumatic stress disorder, which was then called shell shock, that they didn't really know fully about.   And if you've lived with a person such as my father who had untreated   shell shock,   it's like a long playing record   that they keep repeating   what happened in the war over and over again.   And this is why I I don't wish to sound as if I'm showing off, and I'm sure you I'm not. I had it from an early age,   all the graphic details. I'm not blaming my father. He he was my best friend. He still yeah. And   but   I heard things that I probably shouldn't have heard from a young age, and that's why I'm a bit like an old diesel engine. Start me off about the second World War, and I can just   paraphrase it straight off from what my father told me. So, you know, it's it's because it's been inbred, you know, from a very, very early age, because he just   that was the thing. That was the shell shock coming out. And,   maybe I know this sounds a bit weird. Perhaps it's as well that his shell shock may not have been wasn't treated   because that's how he wrote his book, because his memories were so clear of what happened on those days. It took him ten years to write his book, but he did it in the end. And, that was a uphill   task, an uphill struggle,   because publishers wouldn't touch it because it's for one reason,   truth. And it wasn't full of heroics.  

Mhmm. It was actually the truth of what happened. And this is the big, big problem all the way through. We get a distorted view of war   all the time.   And it sickens me when you see the Cenotaph   with the royals standing there with all their medal medal and rubber medal ribbons,   and what action have they seen apart from in the bedroom?   You know? Yeah. And to me, it's hypocrisy.  

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No. Well, they just love dressing up. I mean, it but it's all part of the psychological   sort of conditioning of the masses always that there's something   look, there there are incidences in warfare which are complete which are brave, which are courageous, where men do do outstanding things in the most appalling situations,   to recover injured and all this kind of stuff that takes place.   And and it's difficult to know how you would respond. I mean, I think one of the problems   or   what appears to be sort of more glaring now   is that   we have this   the technological   advances that have been made during wars, of course, are considerable. Things go through the roof. You have to keep improving engines for fighter jets and this and that and the other. This never stops. There's a knock on effect into civilized life where you get these improved doodads and technical gizmos.  

No two ways about it. But the thing that I keep standing back and looking at is that we've the actual fundamentals that people used to go to war over like no food.   Right? We haven't got any food. The pea the tribe down the road 80 miles away have got some. We have no choice. We're gonna have to go and fight them. And we better do it soon before we're so weak from lack of food.   Those things you could say, well, the natural circumstances   brought it about. I'm not condoning it. I'm just that is what happened. Right? Whatever my view is is relevant. Those things have happened. They continue to happen. But now we seem to be in a position,   you could call me running optimist,   where most of that stuff could be sorted out. It has been sorted out apparently   in, say, Western Europe, North America, and elsewhere. You know, we as a people have sought a lot of it out, yet the full benefits of that still do not come to the people   properly.  

Creating this sort of causative reason to justify   aggressive actions against other people, and it's all avoidable.   I mean, I do think you have to keep,   a military   for your nation   for defense purposes.   And I you know, people say, well, we don't even want that, but you're inviting   bad behavior from others who will take advantage of you. It would if if history is anything to go by, you know, if you sit there and go, well, we're all love we love everyone and we don't have an army or anything and we're oh, well, we'll come over and we'll we'll share all your stuff until you're dead. I mean, that's what's taking place with the so called   immigration   stuff. And you've got this. You've got that mentality. It's dangerous. You know, the the is there a happy medium? Well, I I operate on the basis that there could be or should be.  

But you've got this situation where people are going, oh, no. Our doors are open to everybody. You know, you see these women with placards at the airports, migrants Oh, yes.   And you're going, what what is wrong with you know, it's insane   because it doesn't solve the problem anyway. It's just moving it and changing the form of it   into something that is much more dangerous because it's undermining the very fabric of the things that we've built. I mean, if you live your life and build a house and do things, you're gonna protect it, aren't you? You put a lot of sweat, human energy   into building your little village up with Bob and Betty and whoever it is. I mean, I'm just sort of putting it in storybook version.  

So your instincts are to protect that and to create that space for your children.   That's what this is all about. Right? Well,  

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I I that's right. But, I mean, I saw a funny instance where a chat was going up to these,   lovey dovey ladies saying, oh, immigrants welcome. Saying, oh, I'm glad you've mentioned that.   How many rooms are you going to let out for an immigrant Yes. To come into your house? And I said, oh, well, I haven't got a room actually in my house. I live in a flat. It's very pokey. And everyone had an excuse  

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that they can't house an immigrant. Yes. They can't do it. It's   your job. You're the fascist Nazi. You've got to do it because you're the hater.   And they this is that thing. I'm coming back to that point. I think we mentioned it a few weeks ago.   The problem with that mentality is that they don't see real human beings,   these people.   That they're living in an ideology. Everything's abstract to them   in terms of supporting this ideology. I don't want you to think that I'm a racist.   Well, everybody's a racist.   I've said this for years. Everybody is a racist because race exists.  

And it's it's meaningless as a phrase. It's it's only weaponized against one race, and you happen to be in it, Eric, and so do I.   For all for for global control purposes, that race, ours,   has to be,   subdued   because it keeps creating things that make the presence, I would suggest, of controlling units irrelevant.   I mean, if we solve a problem directly,   why do you need organizing committees?   And the reason that they have them is to make sure that you never ever really fully solve the problem. So it's always a job for an administrative class down the line. That might seem a bit tenuous and it's not a biggest part of it but it's definitely an aspect of it. People are continually   protecting their own self interests almost on a subconscious level   to keep a series of problems   rolling. Listen, I I think we're always gonna have problems and if you call them challenges, they become really rather wonderful. But many of the things that we're facing are artificially injected into civilization   and that's what drives you crazy. They're not genuine. They're they've been created intentionally   by the controlling class to justify their continued control, and they don't even realize they're doing it. And this is why you can't even convince the woke people that they are so dangerous. Yeah. You you can't do it. It's not possible. Well, if I just tell them or provide them with some facts, forget it.  

They literally got no traction in their head because you're you're disturbing their entire idea   of who they are. But I'm this kind person. I'm not a Nazi. Well, maybe you ought to think about becoming one. You know, a Nazi's thrown about as a completely meaningless term as well just like racist is.   You know, it's all it's daft. People and this is down to the fact that people can't think deeply enough, I would suggest, you know, about about what what sort of situation they're in. And it's debited. It's it  

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well, that and that makes someone actually, I suppose it was taboo to mention anything negative about Sussex   Mhmm. And Hertfordshire.   So we would then be very careful not to be insulting. Like,   well, you know, I went down to Sussex. It was appalling weather. Oh oh, I bet it's normally lovely in Sussex. You would have to sort of overcompensate   so as not to insult.   And this is what gets me, Having to overcompensate   so as not to insult.   Why? Because,   you know, if someone is insulted by something,   Yep. Tough.   Because we're not going out of our way to be we like people.  

I like different races.   I think they're very nice in the homeland. For example, as I often said, you know, if I went to South Africa to see the Zulus, I wouldn't expect to go there and see,   highlander   dancing   because that's within multicultural. You expect to see Zulus.  

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But changing the subject very You see, I'd say multiculturalism   is soft warfare.   That's what it is. It's not. There's no such thing. It doesn't exist. I've mentioned it before. I wanna play you this clip, by the way,   because it's appropriate on the Please, please. From this is,   this chap's a 100, and he was on, BBC.   Yes. BBC.   Oh, and also   Yeah. I've got something controversial to mention afterwards, which is very controversial. So I'll I'll I'll let it go. Well, if it wasn't the BBC What did you say for that? Oh, it's always worth foul dousing the BBC, the Bolshevik Brainwashing Corporation,   which they are, literally, as mister Trump has just discovered, not that I'm too bothered about him either, but never mind. I'm not trying to upset anybody,   the political class. But it it was one of these breakfast shows, a bit like this one, Eric,   on TV the other week. A bit like our breakfast show over here. You know, our long running breakfast show that we're doing for the first time ever. But,   this is Alec Penstone. He's a 100 years of age,   a veteran of World War two.  

And this is about a minute long and just this will get the All in the comments.   Here we go. Fantastic. My message is,  

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I can see in my mind's eye, there were rows and rows of   white stones   of all the hundreds of my friends and everybody else that gave their lives for what?   The the country of today.   Now I'm sorry.   The sacrifice   wasn't worth the result that it is now.  

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Oh, well, I'm sorry. What do you what do you what do you mean by that, though, at this point?  

[00:53:37] Unknown:

What we fought for Mhmm. And what we fought for was our freedom.   We fought for it. Even now,   it's well, that downside worse than what it was   when I fought for it.  

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Oh, Alec, I'm sorry you feel like that because I want you to know that all the generations that have come since, including me   and my children,   are so grateful   for your bravery and all that for service personnel.  

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The the person who said, what do you mean by that was,   Adil Ray.   Not an Englishman.  

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When they've had What do you mean by that? Yeah. Even when they're talking to him at the end, they're talking to him like a child. It's It's just disgusting. Yes. But that's that's Bloody anger to me. Yeah. Yep. I I I I why they spoke to him, they should have let him speak. But what I was going to say, which is a little bit controversial,   and was what my uncle said separately from my father, and what my father said separately from my uncle, and then they both said together.   And that is,   now I'm not saying everybody that got medals for bravery   was of this ilk, but both my father and uncle, who were both together,   they noticed that the people that wanted the medals used to put on like an act of bravery in front of the senior people, so as to get the medals.  

So, but I'm not saying everybody,   but that's what they witnessed many times over. He said these people would just put on an act so they could   get an extra medal, and there were some like that. So I just thought I'd venture that. But what that old boy said, I'd I'd like to heard much more. But, you know, as they were trying to shut him up by being so patronizing and childish to him.  

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I think he made his point well, though. It's a simple point. Yeah. And it's, an important point. And the fact that they even aired it is is to be valued.   And even displayed their patronizing   thing is also to be valued,   in the sense that you people are beginning to see   what the attitude is. Of course, we've had this thing with the BBC recently lying through their editing   of this speech that Trump gave. I mean, it's just outright   it's outrageous. People are surprised. Well, I'm not. You're not you won't be surprised.   I mean, this is a dung hole. Not quite. It's an absolute dung hole.  

And I wanna follow that theme through on the show this Thursday because the the image for Thursday is George Orwell, and we're gonna look at information Oh.   Information manipulation, yeah, and newspeak and all that kind of stuff. It's worth, you know, these are topics we can go back to every day if we like. It's an inexhaustible supply   of lies,   and they're always worth unpicking and and taking a new view of. But,   the way that they dress this stuff up   and deal with it is true it's it's terrible. And it's a you know, if it if people are lying   knowingly,   it's a kind of warfare,   isn't it?  

Because it's   it's whenever people veer away from the truth and don't hold it that you begin to get this sort of systematic lie   in place. And that's what we're dealing with. And they're all fearful of losing their jobs, although I see at the BBC, the head guy's resigned and everybody's in tears about it. I'm joking, of course. No one's in tears about it at all. We all think it's really rather funny and and long overdue. It is.   But the problem is it'll just get replaced by another,   globalist   stooge. I mean, this is this is the problem,  

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it would seem. Mentally sick. We are we are actually living in a world that's ruled by mentally ill. Well, not ruled. Sorry. They're the puppets   of the usury scammers.   They're by mentally ill people. I mean, when you look at Starmer, for example, he's not right. There's something mentally wrong with the man. And when you look at most of the politicians that we've had,   since some prior to World War two,   Churchill is another one who's just not right in the head. It's just not there's something mentally wrong with these people.   And   the fact is, the way they survive   is they use the best PR agents   and the best   social engineers that our money can buy.  

Mhmm. And that, to me, is the difference between government and the mafia. Mafia don't have such good PR.   The,   the government has a brilliant piece of PR to convince people that they're working on our behalf. No, they're not.   They're there to screw money out of us to pay their usury scammer mates, or not their mates, but their, sorry to say, their masters. You know, we'll give you power if you find taxes   that can screw more money out of people to make us even more powerful with the people's money.   And that's, I think, the root of most wars. As you've often said, Paul,   sort the financial system out because that was what World War two was about. It was about usury.  

Mhmm. And the first World War was also about finances as well.  

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And I think once you sort of find out It was. It was. Yeah. I mean, their control system is could not operate without their,   mutual   sick relationship with central bankers.   And,   it's not possible to do these things without that.   And,   you know, the simple point,   which is always worth repeating, I feel,   is to let people know   that they don't know anything about banking. It is a boring topic. It's been intentionally made as tedious and as overly complicated as possible   to shut your mind down. You go, not that.   And and it is emotionally charged.  

It really is. Because, you know, whenever whenever one talks to anybody about money, their first experience is, I haven't got enough of it.   The next thing is give me a lot of money and it'll sort my life out, and it won't.   That's my point. It will not do that. You're right. It's not it it will not change anything. It might do for you and a small number of people,   but the overall stupidity of the system will roll on. And it's as if   in part   if you look at what they do, they harness some of the lowest aspects of our character.   They do it militarily.  

You they   what's that phrase? You know, before a government can take its nation to war, it must first go to war on its own people.   And that's what much of that psychological warfare, particularly as it developed rapidly during World War one, which is where the roots of all this stuff came, you know, from Chatham House   and and the like and MI six and all this kind of stuff. Using newspapers particularly   to wage psychological warfare on people to goad them or terrify them into taking actions which were gonna harm them even further because, you know, we need to do this to avoid that. And they've never stopped applying those techniques,   through the mainstream media   since. I mean, they they're basically   waging a type of soft war on the heads of everyone twenty four seven.  

And this is why, you know, recently,   shout out to people that are in the chat, Billy Silver and America First. Great to have you on this,   ad hoc morning show that we're doing because it's Remembrance Day.   We've had our two minutes of silence. Yeah. Good morning, everyone. Leighton.   What was I just I have drifted off, you see? I've lost my train of thought. This is  

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don't   worry. I I I do that. Well, look. I I I'll waffle for a while if you want. I should have had breakfast, you know. Why?   Wow.   Yeah.   I I I just lose I'll tell you something. I'll waffle for a little while, but because but what I was going going to say was that,   people don't realize that or officially World War one started in 1914.   But go back twenty years, and the press declared war twenty years prior on Germany.   And so by the time   1914   came along, the populace was chomping at the bit to go to war with the Hun. They couldn't wait to be The Hun. Yeah. That's what they were called back then, weren't they? That's right. It's the Hun. Dreaded. And it was the Great War. Evil Hun. Yes. And it was the Great War. It wasn't the First World War then. But then the most incredible piece of propaganda   ever   ever was   in 1939   because,   in the interwar years between 1918   and 1939,   this country was anti war. Even the Oxford Union,   can't remember it verbatim, but it was no man in this chamber   will go to war in a future war. And that was in nineteen thirty   something,   03/04.  

I don't know. I can't remember. Mhmm.   But April, because of the first World War, it was such a traumatic   experience,   that it really put the nation in shock. Even the British Legion when it was first formed in 1921.   Yeah.   And I won't go too deeply into that, but it was formed to, as shall we say, a misdirection,   I believe,   allegedly,   because there was a lot of veteran associations   starting out that were rather militant. I mean, it was almost   at the point of a revolution. Because remember, before,   the 1920   firearms act, you could actually buy arms in this country over the counter in much the same way as you can buy arms over the counter in some states of America today. Yes.   So,   they stopped that in the 1920 Firearms Act. But in 1921,   what they did,   the,   powers that be infiltrated   militant organizations,   pacified them by making up loads of rubbish about the leaders and things like that because there was almost a, shall we say, revolution in places like Luton. And if you look at the newspapers of that time, it'll be on the back sheets because there's like a equivalent of a d notice. Oh, no. It must've must've must've mustn't do that. Yep. So what happened, the British Legion told people what they wanted to hear, and it was anti war.  

And a delegation   went to Germany, I think, in nineteen thirty five, thirty six. Again, I'm it's off the top of my head. Please put me right if I'm wrong.   But a a delegation definitely went, including a vicar and two other people from the British Legion,   to   talk have peace talks   with the German government,   with, mister h   to avoid a future war. And they said, we don't want a future war. And then as you come up to 1939,   I think 1938,   mister h got man of the year award in Time magazine.   He was also his in 1939,   I think April 1939, Homes and Gardens featured his house, his home in Brevera Brevera.  

We were still very anti war.   And then within a few months,   the government managed to flip   the attitude of the nation over,   like, like, like, turning on a sixpence. It was unbelievable   how they turned the nation into a war like situation.   And people say, oh, no. People won't fight in Ukraine today. Yes. They will. Because if they could do it in 1939,   the bastards will do it today. Or, like, they've got an Internet, which is a little bit different. They managed that's right. They've managed to do it. And, of course, I  

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Alec Penstone, that that little clip that we just played, of course, if if we were able to hold him, he's a 100. So, you know,   keep his energies of a certain thing. But there's a dreadful story as well,   which you're touching upon here,   which is certainly with regards to World War two.   It would have been completely avoidable   were it not for those disruptive agents embedded within the power centers here in London   and in New York Spot on. And elsewhere. Spot on.   This this cabal of financiers,   power brokers, etcetera,   they wanted it at all costs.  

And,   who runs the newspapers?   You know, these things are important. It was the newspapers then. It's still a little bit the newspapers,   but it's just electronic media. The the form of it doesn't really matter. It's who has the high ground in terms of holding the attention of large numbers of people because that large number thing breeds agreement because most people in the large numbers are not exercising their gray matter sufficiently   to be able to defend themselves against it, which is why pockets   of of, consciousness like this one is a bit of a grand phrase. Sorry. It's early in the morning, but, it's not actually it's not that early now, is it? It's just coming up to, just going to 11:30 here. But   that's really, you know, part and parcel, I think, of what we're supposed to be doing here. I think,   you know, you you mentioned this thing about a revolution after World War one. It was similar after World War two of it. I've mentioned it before.  

They they changed the tax laws   on the folk clubs in England about 1947,   I think it was, '46 or '47. Yeah. Because the squadies that came back, m I five and these guys had their agents in these folk clubs. Why folk clubs? Because the beer was cheap.   They came back. The folk clubs, you could listen to old type music with your mates   from the war, drink beer as cheap as you could get it anywhere.   And they had their agents in their earwigging on the conversations,   and they went, we're not far off air from a revolution in England. And these were guys, of course, that had come back and seen people burnt a bit. You wouldn't be able to physically intimidate them the way that we are physically intimidated today. That we're a softer generation. In one way, I'm glad of it. I'm glad of it. In another way, you can see that there's a weakness. There's always a yin and a yang to all of these things. You go, well, we can't be all fighting. Yeah. Well, unfortunately, if you're not, these guys,   bullies,   are gonna   make hay on their own terms and they will hurt you.  

You don't think so? No. We're all in it together. We're not. There is no we here.   In all nations, there is no universal we.   You know, when they use the word we, they're addressing their cadre of controllers at the top, their little gang. They're in the club, you know, the rat sack. That's what they're in. They just deceive everybody to think we're all in this together. We're all gonna fight together. You know, it's what Churchill made Hayon. And it's not that he can't write and he did say some very intelligent things, But unfortunately, the context for his life   is completely opposed to making this country good.  

And you know,   it it's it's this thing with hindsight you look back but if we if you were alive and I were alive at that time,   we would have just as likely been bamboozled as everybody else was because all you and I would have had would have been the newspapers and the radio.   Nothing else.   Nothing else. But, of course, when they came back in 1945,   these people did have something else. They had an experience of going through hell and back on all sides.   You know, it was tough here. It was even tougher in the conflict between Germany and Russia. Something like 65%   of all the energy and death of the war took place   there. That's the epicentre of it. Who's behind   that? The London and New York bankers.  

They're behind that. Correct.   They're absolutely behind it. And and it's always this line. And Alec Penstone   might value knowing that. I remember I've mentioned it to you before. During the last ten years of my dad's life, and he lived he had a good innings.   He died at nineteen two thousand and fifteen, and,   he signed up for the Royal Navy when he was 17 years of age. Because if you enlisted, you could choose which branch of the services you wanted to go in. And he floated like he floated like a something that floats like a cork, my dad. He could float in two feet of water. I think I've mentioned this before. It used to really irritate me when I was a kid because I'm got I'm like my mum, I've got I've got 12   my feet are sort of just oversized 12. Right? I've got huge bones.  

I'm really big boned. Right? And, so I just sink. I'm I've got I'm sure I've got negative buoyancy. It is a condition. I'm not making it up right. It's just that I have to sweat in buckets to just stay afloat. My dad had get in two feet of water and just float like a porpoise, just spitting water out of his mouth. He goes, you just do this. I'm just going under all the time. So he signed up for the Navy.   But the last ten years of his life, I had these phone conversations with him.   And my mum was listening in on the   the other line, and she'd pick up the other phone downstairs and they'd be listening away. The phone calls would be at least an hour every time. This went on for years and they were really the best conversations I had with him about anything. We touched on all sorts of stuff,   but I was introducing the idea.  

The the whole of that war was   was not right. It's bogus in many way. I know it genuinely took place. That's not what I mean. But the actual reasons given to the people were completely out of whack. He was totally open to this. And I said, look, there's no good good guys in it. I said, but the least worst and by a considerable margin are the Germans. I said they were I said, we would have done exactly what they did if we'd been in the same situation. And so, you know, everybody judges all these other races from their own perspective, and it's a mistake, generally.   It it really is a mistake. And,   you know, of course, he's the most demonized guy on the face of the Earth,   and that's understandable   from the point of view of what most people think they know about that conflict, but they just don't know enough. And they're never gonna get to know it through the school system. Although, I won't mind being in charge of it for a few years and rearrange history lessons. Oh. Yes. Wouldn't that be fun?  



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It would be real fun. But, I mean, the only nation that I don't understand, and it's of my own ignorance, is Japan during World War two. Mhmm.   I've heard of veterans who said that who were POWs,   especially on the Burma railway,   and they absolutely   that. Well, many of them said the Koreans were worse than the Japanese who were Korea was, a Japanese ally. And they said they were more brutal than the Japanese.   But that I really don't understand   the Japanese side  

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of the war. And I'm trying to learn more about it.  

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And,   there was on, Red Ice Creations,   there was, a chappie,   who was an Italian   who could speak fluent Japanese and English. Right. And he threatened now I'm not making an opinion. I do not know. I was not there. Okay? And he threatened that, the bay the, many of the atrocities   were hyped up by the Allies,   and they didn't happen as they were said.   And   his what his his Vinterview was actually taken down by the powers that be. That's when Red Ice was actually on,   YouTube.   Now   I don't think that's true. And the reason I don't think that's true because I've spoken to lots of veterans who were on the Burma Railway and were captured at Singapore,   when I was young. And what they said about the brutality of the Japanese army was absolutely   horrendous. Yeah. Really horrendous.  

But then when you look at the Japanese today, look how peaceful they are.   And it's all to do with this kind of what I call hypnotism.   This hypnotising   people. Now I mean,  

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we hear that. Thing apart from it obviously being a setup of the whole Pearl Harbor thing being a complete setup Yeah.   Which is still not fully out in the public domain, but it is.   You know, Roosevelt knew all this stuff and wanted it to happen just Churchill did because they're both of this in the same club. But I think another aspect of Japanese culture, I remember reading this sometime, is Japanese schooling   at the time   for the young men,   had   a hellish bullying culture,   really over the top,   and that many of them behaved terribly in war because they've been bullied so much. It's it's almost like they got their own back for all the sort of torture as it were and cruelties that they'd suffered as school children in the Japanese school system. Oh, it's something I need to explore a bit more if I get some time. But that's what I'm saying here. I don't They definitely have a reputation for that that's come to us. They're not like that now. They're, you know and in many ways, the the Japanese model, model, although they've got to them now by getting them to take migrants in,   is admiral. I've mentioned it before. I've got a good friend, a Canadian friend, who's been living out in Japan for, like, thirty five years. That's plenty of time. Mhmm. He hasn't got the vote. He'll never get it. And he says, I'm not entitled to it.  

You know, we have this situation now, don't we? Just coming back to what's happening here and now.   And there's a good comment from Soma Comer, shout out, good morning to you,   writes, we're in the age of fifth generation warfare. There is no distinction between competent and civilian. No ethics as usual. This is true.   It's been extended in some so called soft war,   where it's going on nudge nudge all the time. And Frederick Blackburn talks about this a great deal, and he's right to do so because it's it's accurate.   All of the it's as if the very sort of tools and technology of civilization that we've developed have been weaponized   against us.  

In terms of advertising, you see the sorts of individuals that are in advertising   to promote something that nobody wants because it's not natural.   It's unnatural. Nature doesn't want it. You're right. If nature if nature wanted it, it would have been like this a long time ago. It doesn't want it.   And people have got a right   and a drive to determine sort of the way that their day works   as they see fit and it's this thing called in group preference.   An out group   you are we've all got it. Great. That's cool.   That's why you get distinct cultures in the world because everybody's got in group preference.  

Because it means generally, even though you're gonna have spats with people in your in group,   you're operating on a similar vibrational wavelength. You understand one another. It's like, what we're talking about yesterday, you know, we use sarcasm here. The English use it all the time but extremely sarcastic   and sort of   permanently trying to wind people up. It's just part and parcel of the natural banter of the British. It's what we do. Some people come in and they're they get offended or they can't read it right. It takes a while   to sort of see what we're doing. It's actually a sign, I think, of affection in many ways. In other words, if you're not being picked on, you know, you're not worth out. I agree. And and  

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and that is part of our humor because Mhmm. All humor is bad taste. It's true what Mel Brooks said. Humor is bad taste. It is bad taste. I mean, you just got to accept it.   But what I've noticed now, what they're doing,   where they used to have newspapers to turn people's minds, they're using nudge a lot. And I've noticed this on a lot of YouTube videos, which I believe, I suspect, may be government ones. So there was one on,   if you look at all the newspapers that are talking about there's going to be a revolution, there's going to be an   uprising in Great Britain, all that. You notice they're the establishments   ones. So whenever you see anything by the establishment, you know it's a psyop. And I've noticed there was one the other day about how we're gonna go into starvation.  

And as they were talking about the,   what happens, basically,   is in Cuba,   and there was two other countries, I can't remember.   What they did, they relied on imports and thought more of money than food, so they destroyed their agricultural area, like we're doing, by building on it and expanding,   and may   and then the imports stopped. Mhmm. And, of course, the country went to starvation because the people who had the knowledge of farming had gone.   Now in it, in this article, well, that's interesting, it was say it said, but and problems caused by climate change for all hang on. There's a nudge.   Because most of us realize that, well, if the climate didn't change, I'll be a bit worried. This climate change nonsense   is to do with making money. It's nothing to do with the climate at all. It's rubbish.  

Because   and then it went on a little bit more. And you notice   all the way through, there's these little nudges.   And I I'd be interested for   our listeners   to make a note of these places where there's where something is mentioned as if it's a matter of fact when it isn't. Like climate,   agendas, and things like that. All very, very subtly done. So it registers on your subconscious.   And I'm noticing this on social media a heck of a lot. And I think that's what   what they call the seventy seven brigade or whatever you want to call it, but it's a psyop.   And   people would just read over that and just take, you know, carry on, and that would register on their subconscious.  

But I'm picking it up. There's these little nudge units. So I think we've got to be beware of nudge.   That's what we've got to do. Because I know the, tax people use nudge in their adverts a lot. Mhmm. So   that's my little word of warning.   And what my granddad always used to say to me, watch out for the infiltrators.   That's what he used to always say,   because he witnessed how the Labour Party got infiltrated in the nineteen twenties and thirties. Because the Labour Party that was formed in nineteen o seven was nothing like   after the nineteen thirties.  



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Nothing like at all. It got totally infiltrated and taken over Yep. By the communist All of these all of these things start off, You look at all of them. They start off with a a rightness, a soundness in the thinking of the of the founders of these things.   And then they get hijacked and they fall apart. And it's because people find wriggle room in there, and they can make hay and profit at the expense of their   colleagues. And there is a sort of character that's quite happy to do that, and they're very dangerous. Not at the beginning,   but once that seed is in, it begins to just stay, doesn't it? And it starts to sort of pull things apart. Maybe this explains why politicians   just behave as permanent liars.  

You you know Well, let's let's say It's okay being bright and saying I want to affect things. But obviously, people that become politicians   are bright but they're not bright enough because they've not worked out that by going into that space, they're gonna lose   all of the sort of good heartedness. Let's assume that they may have had some. Right? That was a big assumption.   But any that they've got will be beaten out of them. It'll be coordinating with them. You know, over here, they have this thing called the whip. And if you lose the whip, that's it. And you're out. You haven't got a lot you're not getting your salary as an MP if you get bounced down. And the whole thing is, you know, it's it doesn't breed,   for honest and honorable government,   which is why you can't have it. I mean, you know, what's that thing?  

Aristotle was saying,   something about fiat money. Now fiat money is money created by diktat, but and in principle, there's nothing wrong with it. Actually,   I'm not but he said, there's nothing wrong with fiat money so long as we get godlike intelligence for kings. In other words, what he was saying is we're never gonna get that.   You're not gonna get that. Right?   And Plato talked about philosopher kings. I think I mentioned it last night. So, and yet, you know, we have these characters, don't we, in our history   that we view with rose tinted spectacles like King Arthur.  

And rightly so from what you read about it, you know, I'm I'm sure you didn't get everything right, but you go, okay. And King Arthur really did exist. In fact, there's more than one. There's at least two King Arthurs. I'm quite serious. There's one that fought the Romans. There's another one later on about 700.   We've got King Alfred. King Alfred really was great. He did some incredibly sound things,   and he extended   kindness to his enemies after he defeated them. And they all sort of got roped in, you know, after the big battle, and then he invited them to a feast a few days later. And they all and they all said, sorry, pal.   You know, things like that. So it's, you know, the whole history of us is one of, a conflict and resolution and good times and then somebody gets a bee in their bonnet and it all kicks off and gets very very pear shaped. These things happen   repeatedly. Can we stop it?  

That's the thing. It can it be stopped?   Or can it be contained in such a way that it doesn't spread civilization wide? And that's really the threat that they're using all the time. I mean, all the people I I suppose that subscribe to globalism think it's for the best. They've got to they've got to be a part of them that think that they'll be saying things like, well look, when you were all running around as nations, there was just all these wars going on. If we can just all come together and love one another, it's gonna be great. I think what's missing from that, the people that say those things, is that they haven't tunneled in to who was causing all the wars.   And the primary cause of all the wars, certainly over the last four or five hundred years, has been   the globalist mentality.  

We are going to create a one world government. It's come in many forms, you know, from the formation   Illuminati in 1776.   You think about all those wars. Ever since the Bank of England got created in 1694,   it's just been   nonstop.   Abbotably   nonstop. You You know? Oh, it's just normal. No. It isn't. It's totally abnormal.   It's it's created by this this banking force   that has organized it. You know, you're gonna fight a war, the army needs equipment, doesn't it? Needs to be fed.   Who's organ   these things are minutely planned.   You know, it's a colossal amount of logistical planning.  

Comes in great when you're running railway systems for peaceful purposes, if you've got that ability   and you develop it. But it's it's a terrible   terrible thing. Somebody organizes all these things. They don't just, alright, let's go and have a fight. What what you talking about?   You know?   We need to   we need to prepare for two years. Alright. That's a conscious decision then. Yeah. It is. And someone's been doing it, you know. But then we we you look at the politicians now. I mean, there's an old saying,  

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anyone that's far as to be a politician is good enough reason for them not to be. But you look at Churchill, what you you said on your show, which was spot spot on, he said a lot of very good things until he was paid off and he became an art forger.   Art forger? Yes, he was. And if you look up,   oh, what's his name now?   He's,   I can't think of his name. He's he he wrote, a lot of books about,   Churchill and and that. That's the man. In one of his talks, he said that Churchill was an actual art forger because he went under a pseudonym   of a famous artist whose name escapes me.  

And he sold his paintings in galleries that were just outside Paris, so people thought they were getting a bargain from this   artist that was reasonably famous,   paid over the odds for it, when it was in fact Churchill that did the paintings.  

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So that was So he's not above and beyond the business seat, was he? He had a he had a Well, he got his  

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he got his debts paid off, didn't he? £19,500   debt literally paid off by the city of London.   So,   that's funny. Why was he pushing for war all the time? Isn't that odd? And he would not hear   of any peace negotiations.   Slap my thigh. What a mess what a what a how amazing. When he was in The States in the nineteen twenties,  

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first of all, he was warned off   to get all his money out of stocks just prior to Wall Street.   So he was okay. Alright?   Yeah. He didn't get hammered by that. But before he I think during the nineteen twenties is when he was pulled into it. They obviously had earmarked him as a man susceptible to bribery,   which he was,   because he was a profligate spender. He was a drunk. He was a sodomite. And,   he had   every he ticked every box in terms of being controllable.   And he was intelligent and he was articulate and, unfortunately, uses intelligence and articulation to bring about ruin. And I think but when he was there, before they've fully got him over to his side, he was hit by a car   in New York. Alright?  

There was a little warning shot across his bows.   That's the way I read it. Yes. Yeah. Yes. So it does. It's a bit like, Farrage of the plane crash, doesn't it? Yep. Allegedly. I believe it is. Yeah. These things happen. And so that's what I'm saying. If you go into that space, forget it. Anybody that's in that space,   forget them. I include everybody in America as well. Trump the lot.   Putin every single one of them. What you think just one guy can do what he likes?   It's just childish. It's complete nonsense. They've got poisoners.   They've got threateners. They've got a whole battalion of people,   scum, that will do anything for money. Quite happy to assassinate people. Love it. It's their job.  

They'll do it as well and they let you know that they're gonna do it. I think I mentioned to you before, you know, the guy that showed me a lot about banking   and he did have integrity but he was kind of sociopathic as well, I think, in retrospect looking at him. He had a very cold part of his personality which when you were in the presence of it was not particularly fun. Let's put it that way. There was no palling around. It was kind of, what? I thought we were sort of building something together and he got really clear at times that that wasn't the case.   But I remember him telling me that whenever he was doing   financial   contracts with people and these for these for to do with government treasury bonds and the purchase thereof, so things upward of a billion,   hundreds of millions, these sheets of papers, complete madness.  

At least he was decent enough to tell me how it all works and how he hated it, but he was involved in it almost like a cuckoo in their nest.   But he told me he said everybody that he does deal with, he had something on. I said, what do you mean? He said, personal information.   He said, it's awful. He said, I'm telling you. He said, it's awful that we have to do this. He said, but if we don't do it, these people   will welch on the deal   and I can't have that.   It's just not gonna happen Yeah. Ever and it never did   because there's they receive a communication, a letter, something whatever you can imagine. Right? Something highly unpleasant is gonna happen if you don't follow through with what you're contracted to do and you will follow through with it.  

And they would bring to bear all sorts of pressure on people and this is really the milieu that the politicians are floating around in. I mentioned it I was on Rhea's show on Sunday   which is a lot of fun. Really good slot. I'm on there every couple of weeks. Really enjoy. It's very different sort of pace to what we're talking about now. Different sort of structure, works in a different way, and has got a lot of merit because of that. It's it's good fun.   And, Liz Truss had just has just done another interview with the Daily Express about ten days ago,   and I've got to give her a due. She's calling it out as it is. And what she you know, I think the interviewer is criticizing Rachel Reeves.  

And the newspapers will be criticizing Rachel Reeves and for good reason. But this is just the front end of the story. The back end of it, and trust mentions this again, and these are all sort of contributive factors to wars coming about, all this stuff. It all interlinked.   She said,   basically, the gist of it, she was saying you're missing the point. She's not in control.   She's not.   The chancellor of the exchequer has not been in control of exchequer anything of any value for decades, round here. It's a joke.   And and so That's right. With without anybody understanding who's really in charge, where they live, what their inside leg measurement is, and all that kind of stuff, you know, the civil service and then these permanent secretaries, there's 38 of them or something who never get fired.  

And the governors of the Bank of England, they were a private cartel owned by families elsewhere in the world, same with the Federal Reserve,   basically can put so much pressure on a national economy   that politicians   who are in the   economic departments, by definition, have to lie   to the to the people so that they don't come in harm's way. You know, maybe it may be That's why I think yeah. Yeah. Maybe there's some merit in an argument to say, look,   we need to forgive the politicians.   I know this sounds ridiculous. Right? We need to forgive them.   But the forgiveness has to be a communication that goes along the lines of, we understand that you're not in power. We understand that you can't say that because you've got an act to keep up. We understand that you're gonna keep lying to us because you're compelled to do that because if not your life will be threatened. We suggest you leave.  

And this is why participation in democracy is a terrible thing because it keeps this story, this fiction going, it seems to   me, in the minds and hearts of the people. They think, well, this is genuine. See, I voted for that party and they're not doing what they promised to do. Of course not. They can't.  

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They can't do it.   And, they won't last very long if they do do it. That's that's the thing. I mean, I think there was a comedian that said that when a,   a president is elected into The United States, They're shown into a room that's full of cigar smoke, and they show Yeah. A film of Kennedy,   shot from a different angle of him being assassinated. And then they   turn the film off and they turn around, any questions, mister president?  

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No. Just what my agenda is, I think, is the punchline, isn't it? Yes. I think he does a bill. I've forgotten his name. He he yeah. He died in his early thirties. Brilliant guy. Oh. Was it? I've I'm seeing his face. I can't get his name. Texan, he was. A Texan. Great guy. I think he was from Texas. Wonderful. Very funny guy. Is he? Very show. He wasn't a bit yeah. I can't  

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yeah.  

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He made a big name Oh, I wonder if he died at that call. Think he was getting as much traction in The States. He came over here in the nineties   and got, like, almost a cult following here.   Very sharp, very bright guy. Very   warm Yeah.   Connected personality. Just a good lad.   You know, really good. I can't remember his bloody name.  

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What what what that that that that said. I mean, when you look at that more people have been killed by their own governments and all the wars put together, that really makes you question  

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what is really going on. And that is So by logical extension, I mean, given that what you've said is true, and I completely agree it is,   if more people have been killed by governments,   but governments are controlled by private   cartel of banks, who will who's the causative force of all this conflict?   Biological deduction. It's it's the private ownership of banks.   That's the problem. Interestingly, in this interview,   with Liz Truss,   the goofy interviewer is the only way to describe him. Right?   Well, it is. It's just it's asinine. Oh, okay. It's like it was like a high school kid. It was really so I'm going, what? You know, can't has anybody   well, the journalists in the past, at least if they were seasoned, they had something about them. Right? Even if they were bullshitting in a more sophisticated way.  

Yeah. And and Yep. But this is just sort of like larking around stuff. And she says to him,   about, you know, she's talking about Andrew Bailey, who's the current governor of the bank.   And she's saying they're all globalists.   That's why you can't stop the migration problem because they want   it. They want it. The banks want it. Right?   So what the banks want, they always get because they've got so much power to coerce   and buckle the lives of any opposition,   in that way. We we got to find a different way of dealing with this. Anyway, she puts a question. She said, who do you want in charge? She said,   you know, the governors of the Bank of England or the government? And he said, well, I don't trust the government. I said, they they don't know anything about banking. So the bankers, she says to her, well, you're a globalist then. He starts laughing, you know. I think the penny might have dropped. It took it looks as though it'd taken an hour.  

You know, you're a globalist.   That's why you you want that. You see, if if democratic electing of politicians has got any   worth at all, and it doesn't, by the way, but if it did,   then your government would be in charge of the bank and it would make decisions that could keep the bulk of its civilization out of harm's way. But it doesn't do that because it's not.   And it's I think, you know, because this stuff is is not taught at school or university or anywhere, and I think in my lifetime and yours, Eric, it won't be,   except in spaces like this.  

We can't expect to see any change in the type of individuals that go into politics or that go into banking. There isn't gonna be one.   The system is working perfectly for them.  

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And one of the Yes. Yes. It's perfect.  

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Works perfect. They've got everybody thinking that democracy is somehow   good, both here in The States and here and across Europe.   People report on elections as if they're gonna make any difference at all. They never ever ever have ever. They don't because the government is always remains in charge in the background.   And, those are the people we gotta get. They need to be in the newspapers. Unfortunately, we can't do that because they own the newspapers,   So that's why they never appear in them. But,   at least we're at least we're a bit closer to the nub of the the naughtiness, as he were. That's right. And we are.  

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Even so, I'm optimistic because throughout history,   the unexpected usually crops up,   to change the course of history.   For example,   when Mao was in power in China, people thought we'd never gonna get rid of all this. Well, all right, China is still totalitarian,   but,   people are at least a little bit freer. And I might be talking out the back of my neck because I haven't been to China, but they appear to be a little bit freer than they were under Mao,   even though they've got this,   ID system and,   all this load of crap that's ruling them. But I think that things do change   on a natural way that we don't expect. And the thing with the woke and the lefty ideas, they're unnatural,   and nature always kicks   back. And it will. And it will kick back hard.  

So   just watch this space. I actually do think that we don't nature will kick back against these unnatural people.   And,  

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so I don't know what we can expect to see Chinese thing. Don't we have to be like water   with this? Haven't we gotta be like water?   There's some some bit of Chinese wisdom about acting like water fluid. You gotta move around it. And it is. We've got to become like like damp,   like fungus in the building. Suddenly, just they got they think they're in charge of it and they're going one day and there's just mold everywhere and it's us popping up in little clusters all over that building.   I'm going, yep. It's nature. Nature will   will assist us if we can stay open to it, I think, and and intelligent enough   to stay calm and and not pick fights that we can't win.  

There's a big there's a big history of that. Reform.  

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Yeah.   And it's sorry. I didn't mean to No. No. No. Sorry. Get cutting on you. But,   also, form hubs   where we eventually ignore government out of existence.   Mhmm. So for survival, we form little tribes or hubs   where we are becoming aimed for self supporting, being self supporting. We can't be a 100% self supporting, but we'll endeavor to be as self supporting as possible.   Similar to what Richard, Vobes is doing. He's got a plot of land, and he's growing his own food.   And I think that,   there are little areas where I think we've got optimism.   And as you said some time ago, can you imagine if just a fraction of the wealth   that these usury scammers such as the Rothschilds have got was put into the third world?  

I think we'd have boats going across the channel, going the opposite way, with illegal   immigrants scurrying to get back home. And a little glimmer of hope was that vehicle that there was making in, Kenya.   Unfortunately, I think it's gone bust, isn't it, the firm now? You're saying that that's the electric car that you've been thinking about. Thousand dollars for an electric  

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car simply put together.   Very good range.   Yeah. It was,   destroyed. I'm gonna say it's destroyed by economic warfare.   This is the so you've got people creating amazing stuff. I I came across something   yesterday. There's a British firm called I think it's Yasser. Funny name. Y a s a or something like that.   Electric engines. You say, I'm not against electric vehicles per se. I'm against the fact that they're gonna be augmented to be used as part of the control system,   which is obviously the whole reason why they're pushing them. Right? The idea of an electric engine is cool.   They're pretty nice. I don't like the sound of them much. I'm, you know, particularly because I watch Formula One and I still want v 10 engines back that howl   because I just think, I want a visceral experience, but this is me being a child. This is not important for the grand scheme of things. The company is a company anyway in,   Oxfordshire, I think it is. It's an offshoot of a research project from Oxford University.  

They've been bought up by Mercedes lock, stock and barrel about three years ago but that's not necessarily a bad thing. And, they've created an electric engine,   which is about to go into production which is astonishing,   this engine.   It's absolutely ridiculous.   It produces a 100 horsepower   per kilogram of weight or something like that. It's actually mad. And they they if they put they're they're building them for performance things to start off with. Right? So you put one in each wheel.   You can they sit in the wheel. I know what you mean. So every single wheel has got its own engine.   It's amazing.  

And it's one of these transport things that would transform things. Imagine those engines being tooled up and stuck in those tankers.   Those tankers are the most polluting things. I'm not for pollution by the way. It's just that climate change is a complete joke. It's Oh my. Nonsense.   But those are I like this pollution. Yeah. Me too. I don't want it. It's dirty. Who wants it? Diesel engines that they put in those tankers are the most polluting things on the face of the Earth. Literally. I think in gross tonnage of pollution. They're unbelievable, those things. And there's tons of them floating around, you know, keeping the world economy going because we need that with all those containers. You could put electric engine in those things.   All the solutions have been found. You can't apply them   rapidly enough and effectively because the middle man, the bank,   has to take its cut.  

This is why it's a problem. Yes. Oh, no.   We can   we can crash your markets, and they can. This is the problem. They can do that. So this is this is the fifth generation warfare that was mentioned earlier, and   that's what it is. We're in this situation. It's why everything feels not right. It's why kind of the soul of civilization's being chewed up turned into this sort of technocratic   idiot space. Like we mentioned about mouse utopia.   Everything's perfect. You're not threatened by anything. Yeah. But we're not alive. We don't want that. We don't want you know, so, you know, we met we talked about electric cars, didn't we? The electric car that I want is, I'm quite happy to have it run the engine. I don't want one of those bloody screens. I think they look crap. And I want the doors to be open by me with my hand. And I want to be able to wind the windows down. I want an option. I want the option. You want an electric. You want Time here. So you stick electric engine in, you make it really good. There's also these things coming out called sodium batteries. Don't know if you've heard about them. They're amazing.   Right? They're about half the weight, twice the power.  

Sodium is readily available, very cheap, much more readily available than lithium.   They're there's some Chinese company is doing it. So it's whoever controls these. These are like pressure points, aren't they? They've controlled people through Yeah. Going to the petrol   pump. That's why the oil industry still keeps going because they've got to control the banking system. That's right. It's basically oil tokens. When you're spending a dollar or a pound or a euro, you're spending an oil token because that's the number one traded commodity.  

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That's right. They said And that's why they've banked. Labyrinth line. Yes. That's right.   With diesel cars, they're down on diesel cars. Why? Because you can run a diesel car   on,   sunflower oil or chip chip oil, anything like that. And the smell that comes out the exhaust is of a fish and chip shop. It's quite nice. So you're walking along the road,   lovely smell. And but you see that takes   the that out of the hands of the oil industry. Because with petrol,   you can't run a you can only run a petrol engine on petrol or have it converted to run on some sort of gas. Whereas   diesel, you can, run it on just about any bleeding thing. It'll it'll go.  

But that that is the problem. And, yes, I am totally against pollution. But pollution and the environment,   nonsense,   are two separate issues.   Because, they're creating more pollution with this   hot, hot air waffle,   because that is an agenda.  

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Yep.  

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And that that's the thing. There's there's a difference between agenda. I mean, I I'm very pleased that they cleaned engines up. Because I remember my neighbor had a taxi, and my car was covered in diesel spots.   Mhmm. And then all of a sudden, his taxi,   he had an engine in it from Nissan, and it was as clean as a whistle. You'd you wouldn't have clouds of blue smoke coming out the back. It would just drive off perfectly. Okay. He's he's retired now. He doesn't have a taxi. But, you know, these different things, and I remember walking along in London with the back of my throat really,   really, really sort of all feeling awful with this pollution.  

The problem with the pollution.   That's gone.  

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Mister diesel I'm happy about that. Mister diesel was killed. He was assassinated,   by the British. You'd be pleased to know.   That's good of us. Yep. Because he'd he'd done something to the engine that was gonna knock the oil industry out.   That's right. Peanut oil, I think, wasn't it? It was originally Yeah. It runs on anything. Yeah. Run it. Yeah. It runs even on the fat from Chinese restaurants and, Jonathan Hiller has written in here Wing Chung. And at first, I thought he was referring to his favorite Chinese restaurant, but he wasn't. A few moments ago, I was talking about being like water. That's what it means, Wing Chung.   And, Blu ray says that Bruce Lee said be like water.  

Be like water. Yes. I shouldn't have said that, should I? It's very wrong. That's right.  

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So Yes. I was it   keep your friends close,   keep your enemies closer.   That was the art of war with song sunset   or whatever his name is. Sunsoo.  

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Sunset.  

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An an an an an an an an an an an an an an an an an an an an an an an an an an an an an an an an an an an an an an an an. Yes. Yes.  

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There's a   great tale of Sun Tzu. We're we   There was a bit there's this and I don't know if it's in there, but there's an anecdotal story of it. It probably is,   where he was hired by a warlord because as you know, China was a big warring place, a bit like England for a long time, everybody kicking 10 bells out of each other. And,   he's called in by a king   to get his army into shape, and he said, I hear that you can turn any group into an army. And he said, yes. He said, well, I want you to do it with my concubines.   He says, okay.  

Fine. So there's a 100 of them, maybe a a few more.   And the king sat there.   He said, I'll start tomorrow.   So he,   he's got a 100 pikes for them, and they're all issued with a pike.   And they're told to stand in rank and in a square or whatever.   And   so it gives this instruction for them to stand to attention or whatever and they all burst out laughing.   Right?   And so,   he lets the laughter die down. So he gives the instruction again, shows them what to do, tells them what to do and they they laugh even more. They found this absolutely hilarious.   So he asked for the name of the head concubine   and instructs them that he's gonna behead   her, take her head off, at which point the king stirs from his throne   or the emperor, whatever he was called, and he's not too happy about this. And he comes up to him and he said, you can't do that. He said, you don't understand. He said, when you put me in charge, I'm in charge.  

Right? You're not in charge anymore.   You've instructed me to turn this into your bodyguard and I'm gonna do that. So he beheads the head concubine,   then he gives the instruction he then gives the instruction to all of the other concubines   and discipline is   immaculate.   They all stand to attention. Right? Now I'm not condoning this,   killing people and taking their heads off is not a good thing. Rich coming from an Englishman. We have a long tradition of people taking their heads off, kings and things like this. There's a lot of that going on over here. But it's the point that he's making,   which is don't muck about with Sun Tzu, basically.  

And the king knew his place. He said, you're not in charge.   You gave that all to me. You haven't got any power here. Right? That's that. Done.   And I went ahead and they became a great bodyguard, but I don't suppose he ever got over losing his head concubine. It was must have been a bit of a blow that.   I don't know what point I'm trying to make.  

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Times are tough. Well, it's a bit like   yeah. I mean, I had a girlfriend that, had this I I can't stand Yorkshire terriers. This bloody Yorkshire terrier hated my guts, used to growl, and even bought the little bastard of bone. Growled even more.   So one night when all her family were watching the television,   this thing cornered me in the kitchen, and it was chucking it down with rain. So I grabbed it by the back of the neck   and chucked it outside and closed the door quietly.   And they said, I can't remember the name of the pleading thing. And they said, where's   Foo Foo or whatever his name was, because he used to have a little bow around his neck. And I was looking, playing the old innocent, oh, you know. Anyway, they could hear this   outside because it was a spout up to the eyebrows.  

They opened the door and just sort of thing looked like a drowned rat came in. And there they were,   going around, they had a hairdryer. Oh, poor Foo Foo. How did he get outside?   I don't know.   And, you know, from that day onwards, that dog respected me.   It would not growl at me after that.   Because I showed that was the top dog, not him.   And I think that's the thing, it's wolf pack attitude. And you notice there's the dog whisperer. He used to tell people that sometimes you've got to be cruel to be kind. You've got to show the dog that you are the head of the pack, not them, because they're pack animals.   And I think that in many ways humans are pack animals.  

They look look for the, you know, the leader of the pack and that type of thing.   And I think that's probably our downfall.  

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Really. Well, it is. We're trying to be civilized, aren't we? There's some good comments here in the chat. I think, Eric, with your permission,   we should probably wind up because there wasn't a set time for this. And I know you have to go and,   buy underwear and things like this,  

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and stuff. No. It's it's Iceland. I Iceland shop I need.  

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The management are very, very worried that without me spending money there, they might make a bit of a loss is really Okay. So I I see we're gonna wrap up at how about we wrap up in about ten minutes at 12:30? That should give you enough time to go off and do That will be. Yeah. Excellent. That would be perfect. Just a moment. A little two hour slot here. I I really enjoyed actually broadcasting on a morning. Oh, yes. It's different. It feels different, doesn't it? I quite enjoy it actually.   Nice comment here from Soma Comer. This is you go going back to what we're talking about a few minutes   ago. A quote from Augustine of Hippo.  

Thus, a good man, though a slave is free, but a wicked man, though a king is a slave.   For he serves not one man alone, but what is worse as many masters as he has vices.   Yes. This is true.   And Billy Silver writes counter groups when we were talking about insurgence as a counter agents, I think are encouraged, I agree,   rather than stamped out because it's more effective to take over a genuine integrity that,   than a fake,   the fake an institution of integrity and sell that to the public. This is true. Yeah.   Isn't was it was it Lenin that said this, the best way   to control the opposition is to be it? And I think this is, you know, these are these invasion forces. They and they come in all nice and they might even be very charming and therefore, they beguile the audience and after a little while, they start to shift the narrative. Nudge. They nudge it in a certain direction. One of the things I've noticed   as well with regards to the Ukraine thing on YouTube,   there's a lot of videos now about how fantastic British tanks are. I don't know why I'm getting this stuff. I think it's because I've been looking at things at the history of the jet engine recently with Frank Whittle and stuff like this. And it's coming through all these sort of military feeds keep coming through to me. I'm not particularly interested.  

But they're bigging it up. They're bigging it up. What's not being said, of course, is that Yeah. The Ukraine situation is   Right. It really is Ukrainians or Russians,   and they all want this. Putin suspended this a long time ago. This is why I don't trust none of them. Right? Not one of them. They've all got a little role to play that not you know, why can we we cannot trust these people. We don't even know them. I'm not gonna go out and have lunch with him or anything. And I mentioned years ago, he was over,   was Putin as a young man in Britain in the early nineteen eighties doing the Power Gen training,   which is a part of Royal Arch Freemasonry.  

Now Power Gen is a company over here. Might not that was a general a power company had a big disused,   power generation   station in Birmingham.   And they had people like John Scarlett and other, some Bint who heads the whole thing up, British Royal Arch Freemasonry. These are the spooks.   These are part of the super spooks that are running all these sorts of things.   And I think, Stella Remington, I think that was her name. And and there's a quote from That was it. Yes. Stella Remington. Stella Remington. There's another one as well but certainly Stella Remington. And she says at one point to all of the people there, she said, we are the people that are gonna run the world. Nobody else is qualified to do it. Now that's that's completely in there. And there's another woman, I've forgotten her name, but Putin   wrote about. She's a a sort of duchess over here,   deemed to be one of the most scary people on the face of the Earth. I've forgotten her name now. She lives up in a castle in Scotland.  

And she's of this   grouping, this thinking.   So there are probably agencies and power power groups out there that we don't get to talk about very much,   but these are long standing.   Even saw something the other day, you know, you know about the interrelated bloodlines of all these things, like, they're all related to the same people. George Washington in The States was related to them. They're all by blood. The Bush family, all of this stuff. Bloods, liquor, and mortar. They're involved in some hellish sort of thing from our point of view. Yeah.   Definitely got,   they're quite happy to have people killed. And you and I are  

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not. And I never want to be. Well, do you remember that That's right. Do you remember that body that was found in Sandringham up a tree? And this was all a number of years ago when, Phil the Greek was still alive.   And,   now if someone if you'd found a body up a tree in your garden, the police would be on your property with,   you know, sealing it all off. And then, oh, you're being for questioning this and you. Oh, no. The royals weren't involved, of course. And, sort of a matter of fact, oh, they found a body up a tree. How does a corpse get up a tree for Christ's sake? You know what I mean? This is this is the this is the thing.   And it's almost as if they can get away with murder. They probably do. But,   this idea, I mean,   that they are our royals, they're not. They are Normans   who enslaved us.  

Charley boy, his ancestors are Norman, not English.   This this is what angers me. And we should look up to these royals as if, oh, they're English. No. They're not. They've been imposed upon us. The last Bloody Normans. King of England was Harold.   That's right. It was Harold. Harold. You know? Yeah. So   and that and as I said, that was the last, I think,   truly justifiable war to force they we were invaded, and we had to repel them, which we didn't do, unfortunately.   But I can't think of any just war after that because this country, I don't think, has been under any threat since then. Not even during the Napoleonic times, I don't think it was under any threat as such. No. You're right. Because we had a navy that was phenomenal. We had a small army, big navy, and that's how we should be.   And even first World War, we had a massive navy.  

And in the second World War, the idea that Germany could invade under Operation Sea Lion this country is bullshit. It couldn't have done it. It didn't have the facilities to invade this country in 1940.   Just couldn't have done it.   Well, not to mention that they didn't want  

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to. Not to mention that they didn't want to. Not to mention that they said 37 letters of peace offerings all intercepted by Churchill's agents and therefore denied   Sure. To the British public.   Not,   and very little mention that the newspaper columns of the Times newspaper in '36 and '37 as the rumblings got going were vehemently against another war with Germany. There shouldn't have even been a first one, you know, because it was the Kaiser's fault. Right? Yeah. Of course, it was. The Kaiser caused it all. Yes.   There are a whole series of pressure points that are applied to bring it about, and then there's a story already prepared. You go, it's one man. He's the naughty man. He did it all.  

No.  

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Even Stalin. Would you know?  

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Star they've all got they you can't operate. The idea of a dictator   literally going around telling everybody what to do, and they all do it. Nah. Don't work like that.  

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Yeah. But they're written I don't I don't know. They've written a lot was hyped up about Stalin, even though he was a bastard and killed many.  

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The result Yeah. He he was not he was not a nice man. He was a cruel man.  

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Very cruel. But they're written Trotsky hated his guts, the bloke who got the ice pick fruity, Ed, I think. Yeah. Yeah. He did.   And,   historians have hooked on to what Trotsky said about Stalin.  

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So we just we really don't know. That that's the real thing. Well, I think the thing you know, the thing with Trotsky is he was Rothschild's place, man. And that's why,   I mean, the the the the a document,   worth   I forgot the name of it. Red Symphony.   Sorry. I haven't forgotten the name of it. There's a document called Red Symphony, which,   anybody interested in this, I suggest you get a copy.   There's a research down in Australia that's got a copy. You'll probably find a lot of links to it as well on Henry Mackau's site   at henrymackau.com.  

Okay.   It's a tremendous document because it basically shows you, again, the financial   element. It's always the financial element that's involved. And Trotsky was supposed to take over Russia because communism is a banker's creation. It's created augmented Yes. And supported by bankers.   Because communism is the is their   ultimate goal, which is what globalism is, which is that you've got the entire population   linked into income tax and therefore, you can control the entire country   by controlling their income tax situation. That's what it's about. It's not them really pay for anything much. It's a control mechanism like all of these things. So,   yeah. They didn't reckon on Stalin. And this is why, you know, to a great degree, why they allowed Germany to rearm,   even though they needed to anyway,   because the idea was that they would act as a bulwark against Stalin controlling their pet project and not their guy.  

It's bizarre. I mean, it's it's labyrinthine.   It's nonstop, this stuff. You'll never get to the bottom of it. It is. Who'd want to? Who'd want to? I think,  

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Well, we won't know, and nor the next generation. I think the I mean, when you look at the what is still hidden away in the Volks, and especially with the Rudolf Hess   in 1941   when he, came to Great Britain.   That is still under lock and key. We still do not know a lot about what went on with Rudolf Hess. No. But I know the late great Dave Starbuck   threatened it wasn't Hess that was actually in Spandau.  

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I don't know, but he reckons it wasn't Hess. And he said, if Yeah. No. I as I said, my school friend,   I went to school with this guy, owns the castle that Hess stayed at when he flew into Scotland. So how about that? And David Irving knocked on his door one day when he was doing research on Hess and stuff like that. So,   yeah, I'm all interwoven with this stuff in a way I couldn't have possibly anticipated. How about that?   So and, yeah, Eric, we're coming towards the end here.   I was gonna say Can I ask and There's a film coming out about Goebbels with Russell Crowe, which so if you want some your latest,   standard mainstream propaganda,   I'm prejudging, which is a terrible evil thing, but I'm expecting it to be that,   line up and see that?  

Russell Crowe's great in most of the things that he's in. Apparently, he's lost some weight for this role. He would have had to actually because   Goebbels not Goebbels. Goring lost an or he plays Goering. It's all about Nuremberg,   which of course I'm gonna be rather scathing. Having read Irving's book on Nuremberg   That's right. And also that letter that Goring sent to Churchill at the end of the war basically   accusing Churchill of causing   it, and I'm kind of more on Goring's side, with regards to that.   There we go. So listen, I'm gonna play out with,   I played this the other day but it's such a nice tune and it's all BBC stuff. We're gonna play In Party Museum by Jack Strachey and it's Housewives Choke. Oh, brilliant. Yeah. We're just going up to half past twelve. It's time for a cup of tea here in England. I don't know what it's time for in America. Yes. It'll be, your second or third cup of coffee. It's, just coming up to half seven, Eastern Time. So if you've been able to join us, well done for being up early and all that kind of stuff. This was an impromptu thing. I've enjoyed it so much. I've got to think about Same here. Working a show in at this time of the week, a morning show. I just I Yeah. I enjoy this better, actually,  

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actually, to be quite honest. The night's still It you're all right awake because I find I get I get very knackered   about sort of about half past ten. Yeah.   But I mean, last night, I was a bit knackered, so, you know, I didn't when when I go to bed, I just   straightened my head, ate the pillow, boom, I was out.   Mhmm.  

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So, yes. Eric, it's been great. I I wish you a good time in Iceland. I hope you get your food stuffs and all that good stuff. Everybody in YouTube and Rumble that managed to find us this morning, thank we've had a a decent little crowd in. It's not really been publicized much. We wanted to do it, of course, because it's the eleventh of the eleventh Mhmm. And it is in remembrance of all people that have, had their lives cut short due to the causes of war. We've talked around a lot of other things as well, but it's been great to have your company this morning And now this afternoon I like it. Here in and,   yeah. Maybe we'll we'll start doing a regular sort of, I don't know, late brunch show. Second breakfast show or something like that as the Hobbits would say. Second breakfast. Yeah. Second breakfast. Anyway, playing you out with a good old classic from old British radio from British light radio in the fifties.  

This is in party mood which, of course, you can't say that we're necessarily in that but such a charming little tune. Housewives everywhere, get your dusters out ready to go   ready to go.   And, put the kettle on and, we'll see you on Thursday.   Where are we now? Tuesday morning. So we'll be here Thursday 8PM in The UK, 3PM US Eastern for Paul English Live. We'll be doing that. Eric will probably be here, I'm hoping, on Thursday. So we'll carry on some of these things. Have a good rest of day and a good rest of week. We'll see you in a couple of days. Here's Jack Straykey.