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Broadcasts live every Thursday at 8:00p.m. uk time on Radio Soapbox: http://radiosoapbox.com

Paul B and Patrick C join the conversation. Paul E shares his thoughts on Stephen Mitford Goodson's book, highlighting the benefits of Libya's economic policies under Gaddafi, which included free education, healthcare, and housing, among other things. 

 We also show the absurdity of the current banking system, with a clip from Jared Bernstein of the Federal Reserve, who suggests printing more money as a solution to economic woes. This leads to a broader conversation about the failures of modern economic policies and the need for a radical shift in thinking. 

[00:00:03] Paul English:

Hi. Hello, everybody. Welcome. It's,   a Thursday, isn't it?   It is. It's light. It's sunny. It's 16th May 2,000   and,   24.   2,024.   Hi, everyone. Welcome back. This is Paul English Live. We're on WMEN 324. For the next 2 hours and elsewhere, welcome to the show.   And we're doing,   we're doing a little group ensemble thing tonight.   That's,   you, me, and the people next door,   everybody in the chat room at Rumble High, and, Paul b should be rocking up at some point during the course of the show as will Patrick c, and I'm Paul   e. Worrying that, isn't it?  

Whoops. Had a bit of audio loopage there. You'll know what I mean if you get into that sort of thing.   Yes. Welcome landlubbers   everywhere.   Why am I saying that? Well, we found that lovely picture. I think it's pretty lovely, actually. I think it's really rather splendid   of this boat, this ship, this galleon, this multi   masted, multi sailed beast of a sailing ship,   gliding, crashing through the waves   on some sunlit afternoon, evening, morning, or whatever it is. Anyway, it's quite a spectacular bit of artificially intelligence generated   imagery,   which is where we tend to find these sorts of things.  

So, I've been out, of course, on the ship all day today. My hair's full of seawater. There's fish in my trousers, all that kind of stuff,   and it's good to be back on land with you all once more,   it's particularly when I'm going to start choking. As I was saying there right at the beginning,   Paul b and Paul c are hanging around a bit. I'm going to bring them in probably pretty quickly.   Last week's show, of course, was extremely well organized,   by a committee of people and, we had a good time with Christopher Sparks last week. I had a few comments on it. Very different actually to, I suppose, just about every other show we've had because it was pretty formally put together.   But it was good having Christopher on and, received some good comments back about it.  

I think somebody's actually gone off and actually bought his bible, which is quite a thing. So but I've not been thinking much about that since then. I've just been thinking about all the other wonderful things that are going on in our lives, you know, like competent people at the helm and this, that, and the other. And speaking of helms, we really could do with a good captain, couldn't we, at the wheel? Couldn't we do with that?   So,   you know, if you if you feel as though you're up for the job, send in your application to blah blah blah, PO box, whatever it is, London w 13 care of somebody or other. You you get the idea.   I've had a bit of a banking week this week.  

I've been reading lots and lots about banking, and I don't know, I don't know if this works for you, but   I suspect it might do. You know whenever you sort of put your attention onto a thing or a series of things,   and suddenly you start to see it everywhere, don't you? Well, I do anyway. So I've been going through,   a bit more going through of   Stephen Mitford Goodson's book. I just finished that, the other day, probably for about the 4th or 5th time,   and it really has been a tremendous reread. I've I've enjoyed it tremendously, actually. Sort of warmed all my circuits up again with regards to what the main problem is. I've got quite a few clips lined up today from the other side just talking   rubbish. These are for amusement and entertainment purposes only.  

None of these people that are in charge are to be taken seriously at all,   except taken seriously   down to the insane asylum, which is really where they need to be placed for a while. They need they do need to be sectioned,   really, from the rest of us, in my, you know, kindly, humble view.   And, just by way of, topping and telling this little sort of opening thing, this is Paul, English Live,   here on WBN 324. We're here every Thursday, 3 PM to 5 PM US Eastern, 8 PM to 10 PM in the UK, and our main sort of online channel outside of WBN   is over at Rumble.  

And if you are listening to this and want to   join all the Rumble reprobates or whatever name they're going under this week, but there's a goodly crew in there already. So hi. Big shout out to all of you in the in the Rumble chat. Fantastic   to see you again. It's very it's extremely encouraging and rewarding actually to rock up here,   and have you sort of turn up each week with me. It's great. I don't say much about it, do I? But it's fantastic.   So if you want to if you want to head over to Rumble   because your fingers are itching and you want to type some   scathing comments or 2 or even say something nice or just go,   you'll find the link to it over at paulenglishlive   [email protected].  

You'll find the link there to all that kind of stuff. And what I should also mention, because tonight's show is pretty ad hoc, whatever that might mean,   we haven't prepared any musical interludes at   all. How about that?   That doesn't mean to say that there won't be any. There probably will. I've got a couple of cheesy songs lined up, actually, if nothing comes through. But   if you're in the chat, if you're ever in Rumble, and you've got some   inspiring song or something that you'd like to hear that you think we haven't played before, and let's face it, we've only played a few songs over 30 odd episodes, I suppose, so there's gonna be plenty left to go at.   Please offer a tune.  

Put it in there. And if it catches my eye,   and I'll I'll give you a shout out and mention it. And if, if it doesn't catch my eye, put it in repeatedly if you're really keen for it. So, yeah, there we go.   If you've never had a song played, it's a thrill, apparently.   I think it is. Something like that.   I'm joined here this evening by, Paul b and Patrick C.   Paul B.   Paul Bina. Are you are you there, Mr. Bina? Are you in the studio?   Oh, you are? Are you hearing me okay? Yeah. It's just that what I've done is I muted the lot of you, the whole swarm of you that are in there, you know, just so I could do my bit. And now that I've demuted you, we can all hear you, Paul. So   see, you're not the only person that has trouble with buttons. I'm I'm a I'm a button  

[00:08:14] Paul Biener:

Oh. A button presser. Tell me about it.   Tell me about it. I've got 3 different computers running 2 different streams to 2 different networks   with 2 simultaneous   conversations   going on, and,   both of them are being recorded.   I had lots of buttons to push within the first five minutes of the show. Did you?   That's good. But I do believe that I got them all.  

[00:08:37] Paul English:

It's kinda strange here. I've got quite a few to press and then you're joining in and pressing even more. You kind of win on that front, don't you? You've always got more buttons to press. You've you you do. You've got more. You've got way more than me. Well, I guess.  

[00:08:52] Paul Biener:

Oh, that's crazy. I did wanna let you know that you remember that that, we had spoken a couple of weeks ago about The Who and the Pinball Wizard and,   Oh, yes. Them. We we do have that one that guy on deck, so we can throw that one in there if we want. Cool. Yeah. I don't want the Elton John version.  

[00:09:12] Paul English:

So the is there a Who version? No. Is it about The Who? Yeah. I'm not I'm not,   Yeah. Don't pick Elton John. It's not likely to go very far with me.  

[00:09:20] Paul Biener:

No. It's The Who. It's definitely The Who. Okay.  

[00:09:23] Paul English:

Alright. Okay. Well, there we go. So we got pinball wizard lined up. We'll just have to see what, I mean, that's all it is. It's just about picking the songs, isn't it really? But,   that's cool. 1st break taken care of. Yeah. Did you send that to me? Or do have I got to pick it up again? I probably have to retrieve it again. No. It's  

[00:09:40] Paul Biener:

it's in Skype.   I'll I'll love that. Yeah. I'll send it to you, Thursday.   Wednesday,  

[00:09:48] Paul English:

May 8th is when I sent it to you. Wow. That's that's nearly a week ago. Good grief.   That's a long time, isn't it a week?   Isn't that a long time?   That's a whole week. Forever ago. It is. It's like forever ago, Paul.   It really is.   And, we're also joined,   although he's in a strange location, I understand,   By Patrick. Hi, Patrick. Are you with it? Are you here?   I'm here, Paul. Can you hear me well? I can. You do sound like a mouse at the end of a drain pipe. You're very quiet. And I've given you 4 extra decibels. That's how much I like you and it's still not enough, is it? Yeah. I'm sorry about that.   Sorry about that. I've given you a 6 now.  



[00:10:30] Patrick Chenal:

Okay. And now it's you're gonna get a little bit of feedback, it sounds like. No. No. We're gonna go for even more. I'm gonna give you 9. Come on.   Okay. Testing. Alright. Now you can kinda hear me, can't you? Yeah. Now we've got you.  

[00:10:42] Paul English:

You do sound, though, like you're in, an abattoir or something like that. Are you in an abattoir? Where where are we? I'm in kind of a warehouse building at the moment doing some,  

[00:10:52] Patrick Chenal:

packaging of of products that we make here at our factory. So   yeah. I just wanted to check-in and, you know, I'll pop in and out of the show as as I as we go on.   But, yeah, I just wanted to wanted to be here because it's always a good show. So Well, it's always good to have you here, Patrick. And I think,  

[00:11:12] Paul English:

I guess so if we hear any loud crashes or bangs or wallops or things, that's things in the warehouse taking off for you. Is it there's there's gonna be things going on. Is that right?  

[00:11:22] Patrick Chenal:

Yeah. Yeah. I'll I'll try to keep mute when I when I can. But,   yeah, doing the sit down type of work, you know, I get to catch up on a lot of podcasts  

[00:11:32] Paul English:

and radio shows that I normally don't listen to. So it's been good. It's been good the past few weeks. Well, great. So really what you're saying is you slope off into the warehouse and just spend all your day listening to podcasts. Is is did I get that right? Yeah. Pretty much. Cool. I've been talking talking to coworkers and stuff. So, yeah, it's good. Yeah. Work, fall okay. Cool. Fantastic, Patrick. Well, feel like just jumping in whenever you like, and the it it lends atmosphere. Your your distinctive audio background lends atmosphere to the whole geek. This is great. So it's great to have you back.   And, that also means that after the show, I can put 3 p's in a podcast again, which is awfully cheesy, isn't it? It really is. But you did coin that. I've got a tip of the hat with you on that one and let you know that you did you did coin that.  

Oh, I can see there's some   terrible jokes occurring   occurring in the thing from Eric. I'm not reading that one out, Eric. You can forget that. That's completely out of order.   There's just stuff going on. I don't know what you think you're playing at. It's just outrageous.  

[00:12:33] Patrick Chenal:

So Well, if we got a if we got a Charlie and an Oscar in here, we'd be   c three p o.   So go figure.  

[00:12:41] Paul English:

You need to get out more, Patrick.   This   is not turning out so good. That's actually pretty good, really, now that I think about it. Yeah. Cool.   Yeah. That works. It does. It works, doesn't it?   Anyway,   where did I wanna oh, I wanna just talk about the ship again as well. The, I did mention it just briefly there. It's a fantastic image. I don't know who knocks these things up. I just go off like a sort of little thief, you know, around the Internet and go, oh, I'll have that one. This is really good. And,   I love AI AI imagery. Just come along at the right time for me in this show. You can just get cracking images whenever you feel like it. Type thing I don't actually sort of   do any of the prompting. I'm just sort of gleaning what other people have prompted these things to do, but it's all really rather uplifting, I find. I like a good picture every now and again.  

So that that's quite jolly good. As I said, I was, I've spent much of the week reading or just finishing off over the weekend,   Stephen Mitford Goodson's book again.   I actually was doing a quick search yesterday to find the interview he did with Andrew Carrington Hitchcock, which was 7 years ago. I think he died 2018,   and I did mention this last week, but these things are always worth repeating. We're kind of in the repeater business to a great degree.   There was a brief interview with him when he was in hospital, and he was pretty sure he was being done in.   It's such a good book. I think, like, I should be ordering copies, but somebody pointed out. There's a the book publisher that that, did it. They're still going. They're in London.  

Black House Publishing, I think it is, or it's black something or the Black House. I think it's Black House Publishing.   And there's a 4th edition of it out now, which has been   neutered a bit.   You can probably imagine why. Right? So it had certain words removed and certain sentences and phrasing. So I think the version I've got is the very naughty unexpurgated   first edition with all the truly pointed and accurate criticisms as you would imagine. But, of course, we can't talk about that because we live in England, so we don't want to talk about it too much.   But there was a little bit that I,   earmarked down for today that I just wanted to re you know, I like to read a few things.  

And I do want to talk about,   a chapter or a section that he put in there as towards the the about 2 thirds of the way through the book where he's talking about Libya.   And the reason why I think Libya is definitely worth addressing   is because,   it might be the most recent example of a jolly good bank.   And I wanted to just read you a few things about it. I'm not gonna go through the whole thing. It's about 3 or 4 pages.   But he provides a little bit of background on the Central Bank of Libya,   and he says this. He says,   from 1551,   I hope you're all taking notes out there, to 1911,   Libya was ruled by the Ottoman Empire,   by Italy from 1911 to 1913.  

And from 1943 to 1951,   it was under the military sue the military suzerainty.   What a lovely word that is, isn't it? Suzerainty   of Britain and France. That's us, Lord.   The Central Bank of Libya was founded in 1956   and was run as a typical central bank. You know these things. We're all having to endure this   thuggish   cartel   of central banks around the world. Until it says the bloodless coup d'etat   of the 1st September   1969.   So I was 9 years of age when that happened. I wasn't noting it at the time. I wasn't into all this stuff. I was into   kicking footballs, I suppose, and eating trifle and things.  

This is useful, though, to know. It says oil   of an exceptionally high quality was discovered in 1959.   However, King Idris   al Malady   as Sanu Samusi.   Samusi,   him, you remember him, failed to capitalize on this bonanza or use it for the benefit of his people, and the bulk of the oil profits were siphoned into the coffers of the oil companies.   Well, I never. I've never heard of such a thing like that. However, it goes on. On assuming power in 1969,   Muammar   Mohammed Al Gaddafi, or Gaddafi as we know him know him, took control of most of the economic activities of the country, including the Central Bank,   which for all practical purposes   have I got a little echo there? Got something. Never mind. No. It's it's gone.  

It operated,   as a banker of the local bankers, and foreign bankers were not permitted to operate. Oh, I like it even more.   Financing of government   infrastructure did not attract RIBA, r I b a, interest that is. And Libya had no national bank and no foreign debt.   Its foreign exchange reserves exceeded   $54,000,000,000,   that's with a b, which may be compare compared to reserves of developed countries such as the UK   and Canada, which in 2010 were $50,000,000,000   $40,000,000,000   respectively. So not that much   really. GDP growth during the period blah blah blah. Colonel   Gaddafi was described by the mainstream media as being a terrible   dictator and a blood sucking monster.  

Well, I never.   But the reality was   that with the exception of the city of Benghazi.   Actually, I know it's just I'm just gonna mute you, Paula, because I've got a bit of loop back coming in.   Where where where was I?   It says, but the reality was that with the exception of the city of Benghazi and its environs,   he had the support of 90 per cent of the population.   Who else had that? Was that that German chap back in the thirties? He had quite a bit of support, didn't he?   Now this is what here's the bit I really wanted to read. A series of benefits.   Clap your low goals around this, because   we could have all this   if we do to the central bank what Gaddafi did to his central bank.  

Horatio, there's the rub.   The following benefits provided by Gaddafi explain why he was so popular. And we all wanna be popular, don't we, boys and girls?   Free education.   Students were paid the average salary for which subject they were studying.   They were actually paid a salary for studying   things. Students studying overseas   were provided with accommodation,   an automobile   €2,500   per annum.   Electricity was free.   Yes.   Healthcare was   free.   Housing   was   free. That's a filthy four letter word if you're a central banker, but there you go. Housing also free. There were no mort gauges,   Death Gamble's.  

Mort, death, gauge, gamble. There were no mortgages.   Next one.   Newlywed couples received a gift of 60 1,000 dinar, which is approximately   $50,000   from the government.   Hey. Now there's an incentive to get married and have children. Right?   Automobiles   were sold at factory cost free.   Filthy word again of interest.   Private loans were provided free of interest.   Bread cost 15   US¢ per loaf.   Gasoline cost 12 cents per litre. I guess this is 69, but even so. Fantastic.   Portion of profits from the sale of oil was paid directly into the bank accounts of citizens.   So   what he's saying is, hey, we all live here. We're all in this nation, and the wealth of the nation is going to be equitably distributed amongst the people that actually live here and build and run the nation. Oh, no. You can't have that. How you can run a central bank with things like that? Farmers received   free land, seeds, and animals.  

Full employment with those temporarily unemployed paid a full salary   as if   employed.   Beggars and homeless vagrants did not exist.   Life expectancy at 75 years was highest in Africa and 10% above the world average.   Literacy rate was 82%.   Regarding human rights, Libya stood at 61   in the International Incarceration   Index.   Something I hope you've all got a copy of in your back pocket.   The lower the rating, the lower the standing. So 62, and the higher the number, the better. The number one spot is currently occupied by the United States. Sorry about that Paul and Patrick, but there you go. We're probably not too far behind.   I wanted to just run through those things   to whet your appetite about what is possible with this because it is considerable.  

And so the big question is   the big question   is   how are we to achieve that when we have got this barrier of morons,   idiots,   very clever idiots at that, who are sitting in these supposed positions of power telling us what to do.   Answers on a postcard, please.   What are we supposed to do? If the solution sits there, and by golly, it does. And Gaddafi, of course, is not the only example of this. The one that many people here will be very familiar with, of course, is the absolute   tremendous economic transformation of Germany   using a similar approach back in the 19 thirties. Not exactly the same. They had different challenges to deal with,   but they effectively funded themselves.  

So as soon as how that's the solution,   we need to, it seems to me, to some degree,   redescribe   our condition because   it's simply that central bankers   are now and always have been are at war with   prosperity   across   across a nation.   I know I'm not saying anything that you haven't heard before, but it seems to me   we have to keep saying this. I mean, we've   all the answers   are all in front of us. They're all in front of they're just sat here ready to go. I want to play you I'm gonna play a very short clip, and then we will   I'll I'll throw it over to Paul and Patrick.  

Patrick in the warehouse. Where have I put this? I've got a little clip here that I wanted to   which is what's that who's that bint? That Europe that Euro bint? Christine   Lagarde.   Her. Yeah? Very clever, very bright, very articulate,   probably knows loads of languages,   doesn't know shit   about banking and economics. Why should she?   Listen to this if you can.  

[00:23:24] Unknown:

Floods,   droughts, and wildfires   last year   were just a preview of what is to come.   A hotter climate   and nature loss   are changing our economy and our financial system.   At the ECB we must understand   this change to ensure financial stability   and to fulfil our price stability mandate.   With our new Climate and Nature Plan,   we focus on the following three things.   1st,   the green transition.   2nd,   the growing physical impact of climate change.   And 3rd,   the risks from nature loss and degradation.   We will study the impact on the economy and the financial system.   This will help us improve our own models.  

We will also work to reduce our carbon footprint in everything we do,   from banknotes   to how we supervise banks.  

[00:24:27] Paul English:

Right.   Right.   That's   that's amazing. Paul, got any comments?  

[00:24:35] Paul Biener:

Of course, I do. Do you?   If they're worried about the concentrations of carbon dioxide,   maybe they can start mowing down the rainforest.   Maybe they can start leaving the planet alone and let the planet actually manage   the balance between carbon dioxide and oxygen.  

[00:24:54] Paul English:

Yeah. Maybe using logical. Did you just use logic then?  

[00:24:59] Paul Biener:

Well, yes. Of course, I used logic. No. No. No. And if they're worried about fossil fuels and all of that,   why do they still demonize hemp production   where you can get   you can take 1 acre of hemp   and 1 acre   of trees and   you can make   enough paper   in that one acre of hemp,   it well, wait a minute.   What is this? It it's 20 times. Okay? I'm not exactly sure what the numbers are. My my brain escapes me. I've got a great memory. It's just really, really short. So one acre of hemp will produce as much paper over a 20 year period as 20 acres of trees.   Okay?  



[00:25:46] Paul English:

Why do we get rid of Christine Lagarde, Paul? That's the thing. Can we turn her into a tree? She might be of more use.   Look, I mean  

[00:25:54] Paul Biener:

well, I don't know,   if,   if what she's doing, it goes against the constitution of the United States, she's committing treason,  

[00:26:03] Paul English:

and then a tree would be what she was hanging from. I mean Oh, I I think that's what it causes in gas. It's a bit it's a bit naughty, isn't it really? No. It's not excessive.  

[00:26:12] Paul Biener:

That's the penalty for treason.  

[00:26:15] Paul English:

Is that why they call it treason? I didn't write it. Don't tell me that. Treason because you're gonna be on a tree. So a tree's on get on a I don't know. I just Could be? Disparately. I don't I don't know. I I  

[00:26:26] Paul Biener:

I   don't I don't I I I don't get it. I don't understand. Anyway, I sent a couple of songs to you. I resent the who. So we've got pinball wizard on deck. And, also,   did you have a chance to listen to that? I don't wanna change the subject, but did you have a chance to listen to that Travis tune that I had sent you that I just resent?  

[00:26:46] Paul English:

The the link. We we might throw that into. Yeah. I've got something   odd to me, and I've just realized I've got something odd to throw in as well. But I want to just stick on the beautiful and wonderful and highly intelligent Christine.   Yes. And I only want to it's not that I'm picking on her per se.   She's one of 100, if not 1,000,   of these highfalutin,   overly educated idiots.   The answer you remember I said something last week. I thought I thought it was right, actually. You remember back with the long term capital management doodah in 2007?   And in   fact, Stephen Goodson covers it in his book to a great degree. He gives you the run up to it. It's all to do with, you know, mortgages that were worth diddly squat and where   all this asset swapping and complete junk. It's all just a world of mad junk thinking.  

The Yeah. My observation about that was that,   you know, the banks this is where that phrase came from, banks are too big to fail.   But everybody's missing the well, not everybody. People here, they all know. The point they're missing the point that say that. The banks have already failed. In fact,   the banking system is a walking, talking   failure ever since the Bank of England and even before that. It's a failure.   It doesn't work. It's not meant to work for the people who it says it's to work for. And, of course, the really interesting thing with bankers is they say, well, it's because of us. You know, you've had all this investment. No. It's because   of you that we've got everything constricted and an artificial system where the bankers always get paid first. In fact, they always get paid. And if there is possibly anything left over,   you   and I, and the people that do most of the living, and sweating, and dying,   and, and happiness   whenever we're allowed some in the world. We don't see any of that. And I'm not saying that from a point of view that I'm lusting after piles of money. I couldn't give a monkeys about it. It's meaningless in many ways.  

When you look at it, there's a really bizarre,   multi sort of complicated game that's taking place. At least this is the way I tend to see at the moment. It'll be different in 6 months time. But right now,   the way I view it is they have they have created a culture around them where everybody   has been trained to listen to their every word as if it's very very important. But the solution to all of the problems,   certainly a major component,   is the cancelling of all   debt.   Now the problem that Christine and her pals would have with that is they wouldn't have a job, would they?  

[00:29:20] Paul Biener:

No. Would they? They would. We don't need them.  

[00:29:22] Paul English:

Do I know it's pathetic that I'm saying this in this way,   but we really do not need them. They've created a job for themselves   which sprang out of I mean, I can say how it came about.   We can see that basically,   a powerful sort of merchant and other class from all around the world, always develops in all these nations, then he gets greedy. He wants all the stuff because he didn't want his mate down the road who he's been competing with all his life to get the stuff. So all this sort of adversarial nonsense builds   up. It's like we literally are on a plants going back to your hemp,   example just there. It's astonishing the amount of stuff there is, and yet   if you watch TV too much, you will think that this is a poverty stricken world. I mean, it certainly is in terms of the ideas that come out of what's left of the pitiful brain that's in Christine Lagarde's head. There's nothing original in anything that she said. They can't think.  

They can regurgitate facts.   They're they're going down the same train line of all the economists and all the advisers for 100 of years   And their job, it seems to me, is just basically keep the rules of the game in place so that we all believe it's very, very important, you see,   to to get the economy,   healthy.   No one ever pays any attention to getting the people healthy. Oh, except people like Colonel Gaddafi.   So why doesn't she just say, we've had a long think.   And you know what?   We're gonna mimic what Libya did.   Really? Yeah. We're gonna do that. So what we're going to do is we're going to hand over the ownership, really, of all the central banks to the people of each nation. The private stockholders of that, they'll get a little bit, but they don't need trillions. It's silly. And, you know, it just breeds bad habits because they cause wars and things. So we're going to stop all that.  

And, we're gonna be repatriating all the migrants that have been brought in here to keep this economic scan going so that these people can stay in power and keep you bullied. That's all gonna end as well. And we reckon within about 5 to 10 years, everything should settle down, and it's gonna be   fantastic.   Why don't we hear stuff like that, Paul?  

[00:31:26] Paul Biener:

I want to hear stuff. I I don't have any clue.   Basically, what we hear is stuff like this.  

[00:31:32] Paul English:

Yeah.  

[00:31:36] Paul Biener:

We did no. And did no. Actually, did did,   did that come through?  

[00:31:43] Paul English:

No.   No. How about that? That didn't come through. But it was kind of a nice pregnant pause. It got us all waiting.   You're very good at building up tension. See how I'm covering for you. Alright.  

[00:31:57] Paul Biener:

Thank you so very much. That's good. It's my job. Let me see. Let me see. Let me see.   The reason that that didn't come through there's there's no reason that didn't come through. One second. I'm gonna reset reset it or restart an audio engine. It's okay. There's a comment here anyway from ether, EMF. Hi. Nice to see you. Always good with comments. She has a brain  

[00:32:19] Paul English:

but no heart. They know exactly what they are doing. I know. I'm sort of posing questions in a sort of slightly naive way intentionally to get get the narrative going so that we can think about this. Because I   there are things that need to be said that are not being said anywhere. I still feel this very strongly. I spent the weekend,   I'm gonna spend a bit more time on it. But, I want to create,   maybe I've mentioned this here before,   a fictitious   political party here in the UK   that would never be able to get elected because of what its spokespeople say. It's got to be told as a story.   But I suspect, quite simply that there are political speeches   that could be, should be, and ought to be made and that we need to hear in certain arenas   which would be electrifying, which would break down this entire wall of lies. Of course, we'll never get them out to a big enough audience at the moment. I don't want to say never ever but where that's our great challenge,   with all of this. So we've got this huge   ancient   protection racket running.  

You need us to make you feel safe and to sort the economy out. And we're saying, we don't.   We don't need you. You are the problem. Should fear most.  

[00:33:33] Paul Biener:

Yeah. They are the you're right. They are the problem. They are the ones we should fear the most. Absolutely. Instead, the only thing the only speeches we get are these. Yes.  

[00:33:43] Paul English:

We choose truth over facts.   It worked then. That was good.  

[00:33:51] Paul Biener:

There we go.  

[00:33:53] Paul English:

That's good. Of course, I'm I'm I'm sort of when you do that, I get quite alarmed. It's like I thought I was gonna press the button, but I don't mind. It makes it a kind of crazy space. So you wanna throw things in like that, Paul, and knock me out. That's   Okay. But it's true. I mean, I'm just looking at this picture over here. She got lovely hair. She's, she's,   probably quite a beauty when she was young. She's got a lovely suit on probably, you know, 1,000 of euros. This lovely silk scarf, great earrings,   and she's just talking shite.  

And you know what? You'll never be able to convince her of that. That's the thing. There isn't a possibility   for dialogue or communication   of human beings coming together so that we could say to her, look. You don't need all this complicated stuff   because   you're trying to sort out complicated stuff that you've picked up in your career from all the other previous   idiots over the past centuries.   You're working for a cartel of bankers   who are screwing everybody into the ground because they don't know any better.   And how are we gonna wean them off of that behavior pattern?  

The answer is I don't think we are, unless somebody's got a magic tablet, or we can slip them a Mickey Finn or whatever it is,   you know, or something like so that, you know, that's what you wanna hear. I wanna hear Christine Lagarde do a really intimate speech where she goes, you know, I've really been giving this some thought. Most of the stuff I've been talking about all my life is complete rubbish.   I've just you know, I was studying a few things and listening to some normal people and I realized it's completely daft. What we need to do is we need to turn the ownership of the banking system over to the people. They must own it directly.   That way we won't get any big financial bullies.  

We won't get this   obsession with making a fiscal profit because it's not a profit in real terms. What they're talk talking about,   again, is this small cartel who've got this completely aberrated view of existence, because   it seems to me   they are in effect really poverty stricken.   They're all they've they've absorbed and internalized their own lies.   So they say, well, there's a shortage of this. There's no shortage of anything except brains in these people.   That's that's the thing that we've we've we've got. You know, there's a lack. There's too much stupidity,   not too much carbon dioxide.  

It's stupidity that has to be removed.   And I think   isn't that the in a way, doesn't that make it scarier?   It does, you know, because if you say, well, they're evil and all that, that goes without saying they're evil because they're stupid. How do you communicate to stupid people who've got a lev a lot of evidence to suggest back to themselves that they're the brightest of the bright. Look at my car. Look at my suit. Look at all these people listening to me. I'm the head of this. I'm in the IMF. I do that. See, I've got all these degrees. Daddy owned this, and mommy owned that. And I went to all the best schools, and you couldn't possibly know anything.   Well, we might not know much but we know the right stuff.  

It's a it's this over complication   of that they benefit from. Obviously, whether they know it consciously or subconsciously,   it's what they're driven to manufacturing,   and it's why I personally am not too interested in the news cycle   because although it's different, sort of,   fundamentally,   it's in this same backyard. The the context for the game   is   garbage.   It's never gonna produce what they keep desperately. Oh, we're gonna try this, and, honestly, we'll then have a success. We don't need you to even do it. We need you to go away.   We need you to calm down. We need you to think about things in a very simple way and see   what we all see,   which is that we've solved so many problems. We've solved food,   transport,   and then they get hold of these things. They go, oh, there's actually a problem with the type of transport you've got. No there isn't.  

There's a problem with the food, we've got to improve it. No you don't.   Yeah we know better than nature. You do not. You don't know anything.   If as soon as they're thinking like that,   we're in trouble.   We're in masses of trouble. And of course,   it you know, I'm repeating a point here again but   they want to be the leaders, don't they?   So their entire culture is, we don't care what's going on, we're going to be boss. That's you know, why didn't why didn't she say that? I'm just making all this stuff up. None of it's really important. We could solve everything in a week if we just cancelled all the debts. We'd breathe life back into the world. There's no reason for for all these newspapers writing twaddle about Russia and Ukraine and whatever.   But we have to keep doing that because we we've got to stay in charge, you see, because we don't want you to be in charge at all. Something like that. Right. Something like that. Yeah? Well, they're coming from a place of lack  

[00:38:41] Paul Biener:

because   for them,   it doesn't matter what they have   or how much they have. It's not enough.   No. So and they are superimposing   or transposing   that feeling of lack onto the population, and they're using it as justification   to literally rape and destroy the planet. Spot on.  

[00:39:01] Paul English:

They could Absolutely.  

[00:39:03] Paul Biener:

They could do away with fossil fuels   just by using ethanol based fuels. And guess what? Hemp would do that.   Hemp is so amazing. If they would just stop demonizing it,   They you can use it to make paper. You can use it to make rope. The Nina, the sin the the the Nina, the Pinta, and the Santa Maria, whatever.   They had hemp ropes on the ships.   The original constitution of the United States was written on hemp paper.   Henry Ford made a car out of hemp. He fueled it with a fuel made of hemp. Yep. Concrete block   that has hemp infused into it   is is   I've heard of you. Structures that are a 1000 years old, and they're still standing. Yes.  

We can't And they're carbon negative.  

[00:39:55] Paul English:

We can't do that because that's carbon neutral. That solves all the problems that they're going to solve for us, Paul. You see?   You know, we're going to solve your problems.   We're going to solve your problems. We haven't got any. You will have soon. Right.   You're gonna have something soon.  

[00:40:12] Paul Biener:

Okay. They're doing it all and   and for love of the almighty dollar. When the Bible said the love of money is the root of all evil, it was absolutely correct because everything they do is driven by the dollar. It's driven by profit. And the bottom line, The destruction of the food with genetic modification,   with the overfarming,   by by use of huge agricultural,   mega   mega farms. Yep. Because they've got all these people to feed, but what they're doing is they're creating food that has no nutritional value.   But they're they're charging   a pretty penny for it. Everything   that is wrong with this world,   everything   is driven by the evil imposed upon it for the almighty dollar. Yes. And it's time we we stopped it.  



[00:41:04] Paul English:

It is. That's the thing. It's it's even here, even with the smattering of things that we've said in the first 40 minutes here, and I know with much of the knowledge with the people in the   chat and elsewhere,   and you look around on Telegram,   people know. We know   the direction we're supposed to go in. So how do we get these people out of the way? Well, if you try to do that, they kill you, don't they? It seems to me, historically,   like we've said. Gaddafi got killed. Kennedy got killed. I know there's some ambivalence about Kennedy. I'm not saying he was a saint or anything. But, you know, he did he put 4,000,000,000   or something into silver.  

So I'm told there's some questions about that. But even that example aside,   there's mister Hitler with what he did. There is Russia in the 1800 with the Czar when he was doing similar things.   It works like magic compared to what we have. We have to listen   to this   crap that they come out with. They're thick. They fail. They fail. They don't get. They don't pass go. They've got 0 out of a 100% on their economics exam   because they're troublemakers, but they have to do it because they're gonna get paid.   And Yeah. That's how they keep us in line by saying, oh, well, we're gonna have to tighten up credit and all this, that, and the other. I'm going, well, we don't even need your system. The other thing with computers as well, when you think about it,   the real boon of them would be,   and unfortunately, all the technological advancements that we come up with are great at the beginning, and then they get absorbed into the money space. The usurers buy them all up. That's all that's happened with the Internet. Right? It's the same thing. We're now down to these few handful of massive companies just like you have in Hollywood,   peddling,   you know, their   their monocism.  

They're evil, basically. It has to be called evil because it's persistent. They don't change. They persistently do this and insist on doing it, because it must give them a kick or something. It's the only way that they feel alive. I don't. It doesn't really matter whether we analyse it too much. All I know is they keep on doing that kind of stuff.   And,   yet   we've got all the wealth available   to us.   So they lock us into a system where we can be threatened through the credit that they made up out of thin air because Bob's gonna take your £5 now and I need some. And I accept that that's true as well. I'm not trying to be silly about it. But it's   it's how how to break this. And and this is the reason why looking at these examples   where great men have come together and mean been able to do it for relatively short periods of time   are a, inspiring and b, also slightly depressing because you think,   okay.  

How do we you know, it's like a lion. Every now and again a lion comes along   and unfortunately,   a pack of filthy hyenas take him down at some point later on. And he go, I'm sick of this.   I'm really really   sick of it. You know, it doesn't matter how sick I am of it. The idea is is to try and find some engineering solution. What is it mechanistically or behaviorally   that we can do different   that would cause it to become a permanent change. I mean, when I was talking about computers just then, you've got this ability now, obviously, and we've we've had it for some time,   certainly with the Internet, to effectively measure up all things really rapidly. You've got this sort of ability to know data instantaneously,   something,   which prior to the arrival of PCs on everybody's   desktop was not possible.  

It was possible, but very very slowly.   And of course, some people would argue we need to go back to those times, and maybe there's a very good argument to be made for that, for slowing things down.   But but if we think about what human beings actually need, if you write that little column down, what we need,   we do need to be left alone by bullies.   That's a big big ask. I do accept that.   But you need you need a you you need a house to live in. You need a garden, probably, so that you, say, psychologically   happy. You need food. I mean, real food grown out of the earth properly,   you know, with actual nutrition in it. You need an environment to raise your children in. You need to live peaceably amongst your own people, whoever your own people are. You don't need all people being mixed up because it causes nothing but trouble. And the forces that have brought that about are the banking   not   everything   so quickly. You just go, yeah, I need we've looked at your data and you go through this amount of fish, this amount of vegetables, this amount of beef, this amount of chicken   every year. Go, yeah. So we can sort that for every we we now know what we need to produce, so that's that done. Done. Right?  

Doesn't mean you wouldn't have restaurants, but it means basically, it means that people don't don't have to have a diet that's,   you know, depleted of nutrition. So and there's basic stuff, but no food. Everything comes to   to an end very quickly as the Ukrainians tragically found out when they were attacked via their food system in the 19 thirties in the Holodomor.   So and that's what they're doing right now, isn't it? You know?  

[00:46:04] Paul Biener:

Yeah. Yeah. They're attacking our food system.   And they're   they're not only attacking our food system with genetic modification, but they're also   modifying   plants   to actually   produce   mRNA   vaccines.   Yep. Those plants so so you get vaccinated just by consuming that plant. I think what they fessed up to so far is lettuce, tomato, and tobacco.   But my guess is if they're admitting to lettuce, tomatoes, and tobacco,   that it's in pretty much everything.   Mhmm. They're just   admitting to those 3. But Yeah. Then they've got HAARP. They're manipulating   the weather. They're causing,   drought   and   flood cycles that are wiping out crops.  

Mhmm. They're actually   dropping poisons out of the sky that are wiping out   or sterilizing   the wild animal population?   Mhmm. Hello?   Yeah.   They've, they released a a a disease   that basically decimated   the,   rabbit   population in the southern half of the United States. Right. I mean, rabbits   rabbits are   they're   they're sensitive to disease and environment, but they do okay as long as you take care of them. Well, lo and behold,   this nasty little bug comes by, and it will wipe out an entire   farm of rabbits Mhmm. Because they don't want it as a lean protein food source. And don't even get me started on the little Bill Gates bug   that if you get bitten by it,   it changes your genetic makeup. So   red meat   makes you   violently ill.  

Really? Violently ill.   Yeah. Don't even get me started on that part because that's just conjecture at this point. It's it's hearsay. But first of all, I wouldn't put it up I wouldn't put it past him.   No. So I would completely believe it just on its face.   I mean, if Humpty Dumpty told me that, I wouldn't even be thinking, well,   how can I believe   a talking egg? Still, you know, I would still believe what that egg said if it was against Bill Gates. I'm quite into the idea of a talking egg. It's very interesting. It'd be good if the eggs  

[00:48:34] Paul English:

yeah. It'd be good if it make breakfast very interesting, wouldn't it? The eggs go, no. No. No. Hang on. I've got it. Just before you eat me, I've got a few things to say. Alright. Go on. Crack on. Yeah. That'd be really good, wouldn't it? I wanna talk to you about the conditions that the chickens live in.  

[00:48:47] Paul Biener:

Before we get started,   let it before   before we discuss,   let us   discuss our terms.  

[00:48:55] Paul English:

Going back to hemp, you mentioned hemp as well. That that thing, I I saw it once referred to as the Godzilla of the plant kingdom, which is a really good way to describe it.   And it does amazing things to dead ground.   If you put if you grow hemp in land that is deemed to be a, like concrete or hardened over,   what it does is it's so strong, this thing, it breaks up the topsoil.   And as the,   air moves across the plain, it begins to reoxygenate   the soil.   That attracts bugs in, so you get worms. You get all of that sort of richness in the soil starts to come back.   You can chop it down.  

It falls back down onto the ground, the first bit you've chopped off. That's turns into mulch which feeds the ground even further and it takes about 2 to 3 years to turn these vast fields.   I'm just dreaming about them, you know,   into   extremely productive pieces of land. So, you know, I'm thinking, well, what about the Gobi Desert then?   You know, why do they talk about that? Why all these projects that you and I could list.   And, of course, the idea, I think, to a degree, us getting outraged by the refusal. We shouldn't get outraged. We've got to view   them. They're literally the enemy. I know I'm going through old hacky things, but they are and they are waging war upon us because we are denied a voice. If we had a voice that would be listened to,   we would we would be able to accept that up to a point. Of course, they've managed that to a great degree. They've created the impression amongst people that you do have a voice. Well, you can vote. You know, what are you complaining about? You can vote. Yeah. Vote harder. Yeah. Yeah. That'll change things. Yeah. That's right. Doesn't matter.  

No? If if voting mattered, they wouldn't let you do it. That's right. It wouldn't be allowed. That's a that's a good t shirt for the upcoming whatever's going on. So, you know, just really get voting. That's gonna really change. It's not gonna change their brains, is it? But the hemp is a spectacular thing. It's a gift. I mean, I don't know if I mentioned to you. In the Thames, I think the law still stands here, but in the River   Thames, there was a a one point, of course, hemp was not restricted the way it is now. So hemp seeds were shipped up and down.   You were   fined heavily if you dropped hemp seeds into the Thames.  

It was a criminal offence to do so. And the reason being   is the hemp would grow   very quickly in the bottom of the Thames,   and come out of the water, I suppose, after x number of months. This thing's just amazing.   And, it would completely   gummy up all the anchor chains,   on boats and stuff, and it was massive work. But it's obviously tough because the Royal Navy couldn't have existed without hemp. The sails were made from it, and all the rope is impervious to seawater.   I mean, what a gift. Right. It's just wonderful   stuff.  

And I am familiar with the Ford story. He didn't he have a some film of a guy hitting the bonnet? He'd made a bonnet out of it, hadn't he, on the car? And the guy had a sledgehammer, 4 pound sledgehammer, was whacking it. It just bounced off to the hammer. The thing's just amazing. It's probably like, you know, carbon fiber of its day. Probably as good as carbon fiber. They were beating  

[00:51:57] Paul Biener:

they were beating on the actual car.   Mhmm.   On on the deck lid. On the rear deck lid.   They're beating on the on the deck lid. They're beating on the fenders. They were trying to break the car, and they couldn't.   Yeah. It was it was amazing.  

[00:52:13] Paul English:

I know. I I just remember being when I was younger,   which, of course, is quite a lot of those years.   Lovely. Getting very excited by this. When you're young   I mean, I and I mean, even in my forties fifties, there's still a part of us, I think, as a people.   We remain kind of boyishly naive, and I don't think we should ever lose that because that's where a lot of creativity comes from. This kind of openness to something new, a sense of play, a a sense of creativity around stuff. But when I read about these things, I thought, well, there we go. That's the bulk of a lot of problems   solved.  

We can, particularly the thing about breathing life back into the ground.   Also,   I don't know if you've seen it over there. You probably could get it Amazon   Amazon Prime, and I do subscribe to Amazon Prime. In fact, the only things I tend to watch is some little things that come through from there every now and again.   One of the things that is, a great   relaxation   for me and very interesting at the same time is a thing called Clarkson's Farm,   which I think is in its 3rd   season.   And Jeremy Clarkson used to, and still does from time to time, was part of this team called Top Gear. It's nothing to do with drugs. It was to do with cars. Right?   And, they the 3 of them had created this great sort of little chemistry of sort   of play acting and all sorts of stuff, but it worked very well.  

Anyway, he's he's got a farm. I don't know how many acres. It's quite it's quite a bit out in the Cotswolds, which is a beautiful part of England. It really is amazingly beautiful. It's like what you would think of as the typical English countryside.   And it shows you all the problems he's having with the local council, building a farm shop, all the regulations. It makes you want to puke when you see all this stuff, and he deals with it really well. Of course, he's getting paid to do the series.   But,   there was a band over here called Groove Armada.  

Now not a band that I necessarily listened to, and I think   these guys were sort of like they would mix songs together and do things.   Although there is a lovely sort of holiday song with it whose name escapes me. I'll try and dig it up if I can.   Maybe for later on this year when it's really sunny, and I've been down the beach or something.   And,   it turns out that the lead guy or one of the main guys, I think they were a duo,   turns up on his farm in the second episode of this new series   and comes to see him. And he says,   I've got some ideas for you about growing crops.  

So they listened to him. And this is what he says. This is what they did. And I think we're gonna get back to it a little bit later in the series.   He said instead of growing just one crop in a field, we're gonna mix them up.   He goes, what? Yeah. We're gonna put 2 crops in.   They put beans in   and they put something else in. I'm I hate the fact that I've forgotten, but they put beans in and another crop. They had a special machine   for sowing 2 types of crop in the same patch of land. He goes, well, that's mad. How are we gonna how are we gonna harvest it? They have a machine for doing that as well. But the kicker is this,   and this is a bit like the hemp thing breaking up the topsoil.  

In this example that they're running,   the beans   begin to put masses of nitrogen back into the ground and re naturally   refertilize   it.   So he said to them, as a farmer, bottom line, he said, well, how much crop are we are we gonna we know we'll get as big a crop. He said, no. You won't.   He said, well, that's no good, is it? He said, no. You're not you're not working it all through on the balance sheet. He said,   you won't get as big a crop. This is true.   But your costs on fertilizer   will be 0.   Mhmm. You aren't gonna need   any agrochemicals   on this patch of land, and it's gonna get richer and richer with each passing year. The Earth wants to give back to us. It's just that we've got these thugs in the way selling garbage, you know, interest and blah blah blah blah blah. So for the agrochemical industry, which of course is going into the food and poisoning everybody, and that's why we had this escalation of cancers and all other sorts of attendant diseases.  

I just I got so excited watching this. I just went   I was watching with my lads. I said, this is brilliant. Yeah. I said, that's this.   So we've got all the solutions.   What we are denied is the clean field to implement them properly because if we implement them, everybody will see that this banking system and all the other sort of spivery that rotates around it is totally surplus to any requirements at all. It's actually a menace as it always has been. It's a complete menace.   And so they're going to produce more food,   per pound of investment than they've done before. It's way better because he doesn't have to spend a £100,000   on putting fertilizer into this field. It's expensive gear, you know.  

I was I just thought   so I'm always   I'm always,   reencouraged   when I see these things.   And whatever problems we're talking about now, even with them putting vaccines into this, that, and the other, we'll we'll find a way to flush it out. I don't care what they've done.   Nature finds a way, and we've got to ally with nature like our forefathers did over here. It's it's   it's amazing when you think about food. You just put something in the ground, you come back, and you can eat it, and it does that forever.   Wow.   Wow.  

That's a good little What a concept.   I know.   I think God had it right. God had it right when he told nature to get on with it and and follow the instructions set. And they said, okay. We'll do that. And we live in this amazing place, you know. It's amazing.   But most people spend their time thinking, am I gonna pay the bills? So the brain's operating at such a low level   of misery, which they've induced because it's the only way they can retain power, it seems to me. I'd certainly, you know, keep a heart of it.   Wow. Yeah. Look at that. We made it to the top of the first hour. Yeah. Now look. Warren's getting pushy in the chat. He goes, some music would be nice, please.  

Well,   alright.   I can see. So, let's, we got the who? Pinball wizard. Right? I've got it here. It's loaded up. It's 3 minutes. Here you go. Get out get down to your pinball machines. They were crazy. Did you play pinball, Paul, much in cafes? Oh, yeah. Yeah. I did at a younger age. It's the ding ding ding that's good, isn't it? Okay. We're gonna take a small 3 minute interlude here with The Who and the pinball wizard type thing.   I'm here with Paul b. Patrick sees lurking in the warehouse. He might join us at some point. We'll be back in a few minutes' time. Here we go.  

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[01:02:25] Paul English:

And welcome back to hour 2.   Just gone 9 PM here in the UK. Therefore, just gone 4 PM in, the US Eastern time.   I'm here with Paul B, Paul Bina.   That was The Who.   And,   not long enough, was it? I was kinda just getting into that and it ended. There must be a longer version somewhere, Paul, don't you think? Oh, oh, there's definitely a longer version, but it picked the shorter version for airplay.   No. Well, you did very well. Well, we'll get the longer version out of some other I quite enjoyed that. I haven't heard that for a long time, really. That weren't a band that I ever really listened to that much.   I did note,   I think this happened recently, Roger Daltrey, the singer.  

I think he's just finally hung up his tonsils as it were. He's I think he's ended his performing life.   He is, I believe, about 82.   He doesn't look it. He's a fantastic Nick,   but he's in his early eighties. And,   so I saw something recently with him and, there was Robert Plant there having a chat with him on stage and stuff. So maybe I'll go and dig that out after the show and and we can maybe do a little clip on that later at clip on that later at some point. But Yeah. So they were a pretty big band and, I think one of their most famous albums, not that I've even got this, is the Who live at Leeds,   my hometown,   which was recorded, I think, in the early seventies or late sixties, so when they were probably at their peak in terms of touring and energy and   smashing of guitars and the destroying of amplifiers and all that kind of stuff. But it's quite a jolly good tune there. I quite like that. So yeah. Pretty good. Yes.  



[01:04:01] Paul Biener:

Now that is good stuff. It is.  

[01:04:03] Paul English:

It's good stuff.   What,   what was I looking for?   Yeah. Is it the sort of song they would play on a pirate ship? I don't know if they would play that on a pirate ship,   but they I wanna go on that ship. I wanna go on that boat. Looks great. Not. Maybe not. But, I mean,  

[01:04:22] Paul Biener:

that is such a good song. It it basically kind of completely unwound all the stress, tension, and anger for of the things that we were talking about in the first hour. It just it just kinda reset the program.   It was  

[01:04:37] Paul English:

Oh, don't worry. I'm soon gonna be able to plunge you into despair.   Give me just a minute.   Give me a minute, Paul. I'll find something grim for  

[01:04:46] Paul Biener:

us to see. Just just bear with me. I'll find something to tick you off. Mhmm.  

[01:04:54] Paul English:

It was. No. Well, this will tick actually, this will tick I don't know if this will tick everybody off, but I got this through the other day   about   now this is about taxation in the UK. I I can't get away from this stuff because I just feel   I mean, god, on one level, it's so dull,   but that's because it's it's   it signifies   the main sort of impediment to   creating the  

[01:05:24] Patrick Chenal:

Tax  

[01:05:29] Paul English:

the Taxpayers Alliance. Okay? So there's a website called taxpayersalliance.com.   I've not been to the site. I just got this post through on a Telegram thing, and I just want it it's it's pretty long. I'm not gonna sort of go through it, or it's a bit like a government report in a way. But it's about figures,   about tax here in the UK. So   it says,   brace yourselves everybody.   Here we go. Although it might not be news to you, but it's definitely worth communicating.   Figures. It says, our lifetime tax bills have almost doubled since 1977,   when I was a whippersnapper of 17 years of age.  

So they've almost doubled since then.   It says, as of the 2019,   2020 tax year,   the average household   pays over, brace yourself,   £1,100,000   in tax in their lifetime.   This means that they work   does anybody work now?   Not that I'm against that or for it, but you know what I mean. This means they must work for   18 years just to pay off the taxman.   Interesting.   18 years. So there you go,   boys and girls. The average household is classed as earning £60,000,   I bloody wish, between them for this calculation. Okay. So that's a a husband and a wife. The wife's sent out to work, so she can't raise the children properly   and tries to get a career, which is not worth having in the first place.  

The breakdown of taxes paid for their lifetime is as follows. So I'll just give you a quick breakdown. There's only about 6 figures here. A £180,000   on National Insurance. Yippee.   £80,000   council tax. Well, they're worth every penny, aren't they?   £480,000   in income tax. Hurrah.   £190,000   in value added tax, VAT,   £80,000   in other taxes such as IPT. I have no idea what that is. Fuel duty, alcohol duty, a lot of drinking over here,   stamp duty, etcetera.   Interesting.   How about that? So Paul, there you go. There's the there's the UK tax burden for an average household   will pay during its working lifetime,   currently by 2,020 figures, £1,100,000   in tax in their lifetime. And at least at least it's going to a good cause, which is to the usury accounts of the bankers. I think I think we can all be satisfied that at least it's being spent well.  

I am, of course, being sarcastic.   So there we go. That's Sophie. That's what's   that's what a pickle we're in, you know, they're extracting this money,   all in all these particular ways.  

[01:08:11] Paul Biener:

Didn't you mention to Roger that you thought that there was like a a like a a British equivalent   to the National,  

[01:08:21] Paul English:

which would be the original person of the soil and all that? Yeah. There is. I think there is. I've just not got around to looking there's so many things that I've not got around to looking at. I certainly have not looked at that one. I think Roger mentioned that he knew someone. In fact, he sent me the link, and I'll I'll dig it up. I've got it somewhere on a on a UK government website, so you can trust us. We're from the government, that kind of thing.   But there there are 6 different statuses that you can be in Britain. You could be sort of like, I don't know, say a British national, or British citizen, or an overseas British national   all these terminologies for it.  

But, and I don't know which is the one that we're supposed to be, but I guess it's gonna be a key part of the toolkit   to begin a process of rebuffing this.   You know, I I still think that the main one of the main,   driver reasons for tax   is to compel you to compete for money   because you have to pay your tax in it. And if you don't,   supposedly, they're gonna put you in a prison.   I guess they're on with building more and more. Although, you could say that the way we we're living, they're turning our actual living space into a prison, or they're seeking to. That's their aim. An open air prison, that's what they want.   Gaza 2.0,   something like oh, I shouldn't have said that. It's very naughty, wasn't it? But,   that's what they seem to be doing. Yeah.  

So if everybody's compelled The prisons. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. The prisons are all securitized.  

[01:09:48] Paul Biener:

I mean, all the inmates in the prisons, you know, when they say that, you know, it costs so much money to to incarcerate all of these these inmates because we have to feed and clothe them and   and keep them warm and all that. Well, first of all, the keeping them warm is a lie because one of the torture tactics they use is putting them in 50 degree rooms and let them freeze to death.   Feeding them, that's a lie because   they're receiving boxes of food at the commissaries   in the prisons that are stamped,   their meat boxes of meat that are stamped not for human consumption, but yet they feed them to the inmates anyway.  

And they securitize their birth bonds   and their their CUSIP accounts,   and they make literally 1,000,000   on every single inmate   in the prison.   It's absolutely ridiculous. It's a complete lie, and that's why they're filling them up is because they can attach your birth bond, and they can siphon off as many dollars as they happily want to.   So, again,   another lie.  

[01:10:57] Paul English:

I know. I know. I mean, the US prison system appears to me is just basically a way of generating slave labor   and, and an income source.  

[01:11:07] Paul Biener:

Oh, exactly. It it is actually one of the things that they do is that they have work programs   and they actually have companies and businesses   that lease space   that's attached to the prison and they have prison workers.   They pay the workers, like, 8¢ on the dollar or 8¢ an hour, and that goes into their commissary account, and then the prison gets the rest.   Oh, it it's absolutely a racket from from front to front to back, start, top to bottom. Yeah. So although the form is different,  

[01:11:42] Paul English:

little has changed since Dickens' day. Is that what you're saying to me? Little has changed. Oh, exactly.  

[01:11:47] Paul Biener:

Yeah. Exactly.   And it's all driven by   money. It's all driven by love for the almighty dollar   and the attitude that,   there is never enough.  

[01:12:02] Paul English:

Never enough for that. No. You you must have more,   to buy this terrible food that you're making because you keep   I saw a lovely little picture the other day. It was of, some   I think it was some children in England right about my,   sort of 1970 ish. They're all   the sort of people I could relate to. I would have been I could have been in the picture and wouldn't have looked out of place.   And they said and the caption was something like,   back then, we didn't own very much. Right?   It's not actually true. I mean, things were okay, really, and people always gripe about stuff. It's not but they said we didn't have very much, but we did have everything.   What they were saying is material possessions were not really as big a part of life even though we were being trained to lust after them all the time. But they were just on a park swing, completely at peace and free,   and,   it seems sort of ridiculous to sort of talk like this. It's like a sort of, oh, you're just in love with the sort of thing that didn't happen. It did happen. I used to as a as a kid,   as a as a wee lad,   we had these fields   very near where I lived that were full of cows   and full of cow shit as well, which was fantastic.  

And,   I'll tell you why it was fantastic. We used to take golf clubs over there and hit the pats,   so that if your mates were in front of you and you had a a a santyne or a wolf,   and you hit this thing, you ever seen those bombs going off in World War 1 where the earth just goes everywhere? Well, it was like that. And, of course, basically, we're having cow pat fights with golf clubs. It was fantastic.   And I go back and and my mom would say, where have you been? I said, oh, I just   we've just been playing cow shit golf or whatever you wanna call it. And and it was just yeah. So that was it. We killed a lot of time doing that, and it was just absolutely you know, we're in hysterics and just smelly. Yeah. Some and I still am. You know, I still am in hysterics and still, I'm not covered in, you know, what it's like.  

[01:14:01] Paul Biener:

So, Gallagher Gallagher, god rest his soul, he talked about skeet golf. It's you take your golf glove and your shotgun   and you drive. And if it goes anywhere you don't want it to go, you pull out your gun and blow it up.   You can't play it where it lies if it don't lie.  

[01:14:18] Paul English:

No.   Or Who's Gallagher?  

[01:14:21] Paul Biener:

Who's Gallagher, Paul? Who's Gallagher's Gallagher's   American comedian. Alright.   And,   he he passed away not too long ago. I think he died in his fifties.   Yeah. Something like that. And, he was he was hilarious in his day. He was the,   inventor of the Sledge O Matic.  

[01:14:43] Paul English:

Sledge O Matic?  

[01:14:45] Paul Biener:

Yes. The Sledge O Matic.   Just just look up Sledgeomatic on YouTube.   He,   he processed   a number of different types of foods   on stage,   with a sledgehammer that was basically made from a tree stump. Yeah.   And the people in the front row got to sample the result of the processing. It was fun.  

[01:15:14] Paul English:

Okay. Sledgomatic. I'll go look that up.  

[01:15:18] Paul Biener:

Yes.   Sledgomatic.  

[01:15:20] Paul English:

I'm very excited about that. Yeah. That's that's pretty cool. Yeah.   You were talking about were we talking about voting? We were. Listen to this. Here's a clip. I'm just throwing these things. I've got tons of them here, and it's just to keep moving things around a bit. Oh, I know what I wanted to do. Before we do that   Now,   I think many people may have heard this, but I do want to play it. Right? It's about a minute and a half,   so it's a longer clip.   It's a guy that works at the Federal Reserve. I've forgotten his name.   Johnny No Brains or something.  

You've got have you heard this?   He's called let me just have a look. He's called,   I've got his name here, Jared   Bernstein.   Well, there we go. Listen to this.   I'm sorry that you have to listen to this, but you need to understand the caliber of the people that they've got over there.   Just cup cup a load of this. This is about a minute and a half. Here we go. The US government can't go bankrupt because we can print our own money.  

[01:16:23] Unknown:

It obviously begs the question, why exactly are we borrowing in a currency that we print ourselves?   I'm waiting for someone to stand up and say,   why do we borrow our own currency in the first place?   Like you said, they print the dollar. So why why does the government even borrow?  

[01:16:41] Unknown:

Well,   the   so the I mean, again, some of this stuff gets   some of the language that the MN, some of the language and concepts are just confusing. I mean, the government   definitely prints money, and it definitely lends that money, which is why, the government definitely prints money, and then it lends that money by,   by selling bonds.   Is that what they do?   They they,   they Yeah. They they,   they sell bonds. Yeah. They sell bonds. Right? Since they sell bonds and people buy the bonds and lend them the money. Yeah.   So a lot of times a lot of times, at least in my ear, with MMT, the language and the concepts can be   unnecessarily confusing. But there is no question that the government prints money, and then it uses that money to   so,   yeah. I I guess I'm just I don't I can't really talk. I don't I don't get it. I don't know what they're talking about. Like, because it's like   the government clearly prints money. It does it all the time, and it clearly borrows.  

Otherwise, we wouldn't be having this debt in deficit conversation. So   I don't think there's anything confusing there.  

[01:18:09] Paul English:

I want you to know boys and girls that's what we're up against. It don't it shouldn't be too difficult.   This really shouldn't be too difficult.   Jared Bernstein.   What what are you supposed to say about that?   It's just   it's amazing.  

[01:18:28] Paul Biener:

Uh-huh.  

[01:18:29] Paul English:

Yeah. So I'll just there's a quote here. This came through from a Telegram group. It says,   Beijing Biden's that's a bit sarcastic, really. Beijing Biden's chief economic adviser   says the government can't go bankrupt   because they can always just print more money. Oh, great.   Then explains he doesn't understand   why they don't just print as much money   as they need to all the time.   I shouldn't be laughing. Well, they do.  

[01:18:57] Paul Biener:

Well, they do. Biden's doing that. He's he's printing 1,000,000,000,000 of dollars and he's giving it to all the illegal immigrants that are encroaching upon the United States. But what people don't realize  

[01:19:09] Paul English:

is those 1,000,000,000,000 of dollars he's printing are diluting the value of dollars in their pockets. Oh, there you go. Using logic again to ruin all the fun. I just thought we could print our way out of it. No? I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Bad, Paul. Bad, Paul. I hate it. Very, very bad. Actually, employing intelligence. So there's no there's no call for that sort of foul language, Paul, in the show. It's terrible. It's just, you know, there was, I've mentioned   I'll get around to this guy. I've got his books. Next one,   forgive them their debts by, this economist, Michael Hudson.  

Seen quite a few clips of him recently.   Fantastic guy.   In addition to the idiocy of Jared Bernstein's comments just there, Hudson says the intelligent thing with regards to this printing of money. This is the thing that most people would have thought of either, and yet it's very basic and very simple. Of course, everybody here would have thought of that because you're all really rather gifted. Okay. Flattery will maybe get me somewhere. I don't know. But,   what Hudson was saying,   he said,   okay. He said, America's got debts. What is it? 32,000,000,000,000?   It's just meaningless. It's just a I can write 30 2,000,000,000,000   in a few seconds. So there we go. It's as meaningful as that in many ways. It's just part of the control mechanism. He said, the thing is   that the American debt is, of course, denominated in dollars.  

And who is it that actually makes the dollars? Oh, it's America. So America can always deal with its own debts because it makes the dollars.   Then he makes this, which is a much more chilling aspect of it, which is what they're interested in, he said. But if you take a, say, all the countries in Africa, all of them, all of their debts are also denominated in dollars,   and they can't print them.   So this is a way that the printing press absorbs the wealth of the world as it does through usury, through taxation, through all these mechanisms, this great big sort of scheme scam,   these spiffs,   like Jared Bernstein, who doesn't know his head from his elbow.  

And,   that's what they're doing. Hudson understands it exactly. And as I've mentioned before, and it's worth repeating again, Hudson's book   and forgive them their debts is a study of ancient economic systems.   Forget the word ancient because they're as relevant today as they were then. And he shows   that it's very similar to what Gaddafi was doing in all these things.   That when you forgive debts,   when you have a population that is not in an ever escalating   situation of indebtedness,   It flourishes and genuine   wealth is created.  

Food is better. Buildings are better.   And one of the things, you know, we talked here,   and I'll come back to it as a theme about architecture   and the hideous nature of modern buildings.   And I was reading a comment about this being a reflection of   it's just you see all these threads that go into everything. It's all got one source, and the disease has got all these different types of symptoms.   The buildings are   garbage   because of the influence of usury and interest and the loan system as it stands.   They don't want   beautiful buildings because they just need to put you in a box.  

It's just to create an ant colony.   It's just to keep the bottom line down all the time.   So   we yearn for   beauty in our architecture. There's no reason why we couldn't have it. I mean, no doubt that there are architects out there, skilled,   visionaries in the realm of architecture that could do something wonderful. But if they do it with glass and steel, I want them to have their balls chopped off if they've got any. Because it's just exhausting looking at these miserable   stupid buildings that they put up, but they're a complete reflection of the fact that this   financial system   drives people to design in a particular way, which is to reduce costs, increase space, have, you know, all this thermal efficiency. I don't want that. I'm not interested in any of that. I want columns and arches and couplers.  

I want fancy bits that are full of mythical figures. I want to be inspired by buildings.   I want buildings to show me that there is a greater world that we're on our way to achieving, whereas the current architecture just says, hey. Here's a box. Isn't it efficient?   Fine.   Yeah. That's great. Well done. Come back next week when you got something interesting to show us, that kind of stuff. Amazing.  

[01:23:33] Paul Biener:

Right.   Yeah. No. I   it it's cost of materials.   Mhmm. It's   time of construction   and   its,   lifespan,   expected usable lifespan.   Yes. They cut every corner. They build it with cheap materials. So, of course, they can build it again in 20 or 30 years.   Mhmm. And,   they're   not building things that are supposed to last   2, 3, 4, or 500 years. They're not building castles in Scotland.   They're building   chrome and glass   boxes   in which to   deposit people   so they can busily work without being distracted by the   aesthetics and beauty of the building.   It's a perfect plan.  

It's a perfect plan.  

[01:24:32] Paul English:

It's perfect.  

[01:24:34] Paul Biener:

It really is. It's perfect for them.  

[01:24:38] Paul English:

We're gonna have to we're gonna have to create these political speeches from these fictitious politicians. You you'll have to create some for an American party that doesn't exist and never could. I mean, I've I am I I'm calling it the political party that doesn't exist, but when you've heard what it says, you'll wish it did   And or something like that. That's a bit of a mouthful. But, yeah, it's true because everybody knows what they want to hear said. They want to hear the Gaddafi plan.   Epicure if you're English.   Right. Here's our new economic policy. It's actually based on the economic policy of Libya.  

What?   Yes. Oh, yes. It's it turns out that we were wrong all actually, it wasn't you. You weren't wrong. You were right all the time. But there's we've had a bit of interference for the last 3 or 400 years, and it's all gone very pear shaped. So,   we're gonna tell you what we're gonna do. Anyway, it's gonna take a little while, but we reckon about 3 to 5 years. We should have it all sorted out. There's gonna be a few people a bit cross.   Those are the big banks and everything. They won't be very big for much longer. Believe you me.   They're gonna be cut down to size. They need to be,   and although the people that own them will be a bit upset for a short period of time, they too will be happier because they'll be able to live with you. Actually, they'll never be happy   ever.  

They'll never be happy ever.   And surely, you know, if it's about numbers, it's better to have a few tens of thousands of bankers miserable and crying in public squares, you know, eating sandwiches out of paper bags, and everybody else deliriously happy that we finally got sort of some balance back into life,   than the other way around.   But then I am completely naive and talking green. But I think that's that would be so refreshing. So we better just put it into action and see what happens. Like a fictitious   series of party political broadcast. I might do 1 a month or something and, you know, and, that now follows a party political broadcast on behalf of the political party that doesn't exist, but that you wish did.  

And,   we phrase these things in a different way, in a in a sort of proactive way. Just use a different type of language  

[01:26:36] Paul Biener:

to see what might happen. We could do we could do the same thing with news stories or or,   historical accounts.   You know, we can we can talk about   Libya,   but say it somewhere else. And at the end of the bit, oh, wait a minute. Wait a minute. That's not America. That was Libya,   under Gaddafi.   Never mind.  

[01:27:00] Paul English:

Yeah.   Isn't there a song? Libya, oh, Libya, or am I thinking of Lydia? What's what movie is that from? We gotta change Oh, there's a Halleah.   Yeah. We gotta change the lyrics. Lydia, dear Lydia. It's from some musical or something. We've changed it to Libya. Yeah. Dear Libya. Yeah. We just need to rewrite some songs and sing sing our way   back to fun, you know, and stuff like that. So,   and to a decent life with all that sort of stuff. But,   yeah. So   so much banking stuff for me this week.   And as I said early on, I've just been seeing it everywhere. In fact, Patrick,   put a post up in the Telegram group for this show,   the Paul English chat   Telegram group. If you're on Telegram and you wanna join in the chat, please do. It's not being monitored too tightly at the moment, but that will probably happen. A few posts have come through with some naughty words in. And, of course, I am a snotty Englishman, so I'll probably sort of have to tighten the reins on that.  

But overall, it's, it's conducting in very good humor in there. It's not too big. About 80 80 odd people in there at the moment, but I was thinking,   I wanted to mention something as well. This is just a sort of technical aside or a sort of show,   kind of I it's not an an original idea. The the flagship show for WBN 324, as many of you will be aware, is Sunday long live radio, which is, of course, on Sunday. It is live, and it's quite long. It's 4 hours,   and it starts 6 AM US Eastern Time, finishes at 10 AM on a Sunday morning. And here in the UK, that is,   I ought to know off the top of my head, it's 11 o'clock till 3 o'clock in the afternoon.  

And although I announced last week that I was on this Sunday or last Sunday, I I was muddled, but I am on this Sunday, the last hour, so 2 till 3 o'clock in the UK,   possibly, probably talking about these things. So you've no need to tune in because, you know, you stay with topics for a few days.   But, Ria,   sent out to everybody,   an idea which I think is worth thieving, and I'll probably mention this or at least trying out.   I really I quite liked it. Very easy, but you'd have to be on Telegram to sort of participate in this.   So although we say the phone lines are open here and you can call in,   and we've had them from time to time and it'll come in little phases. It's okay. And that that that invitation is open right now. If you do wanna call in and say anything, if you go over to paulenglishlive.com,   there's a link at the bottom there of the page in green. It says, click here, you know, when the show is live, which is, of course, is right now. You're live, are you, Paul? I think I'm live. Yeah. We're live, are we? I think so. Yeah. We feel I feel pretty live.  

And, she put out a great idea. I think it's really good.   Sending a a one minute voice message over Telegram, and the good ones would get played in the show. I think it's a pretty good idea.   So I'll probably,   set that up inside the Telegram group.   And if you've got any comments about that and you're on Telegram and you want to say something about it, let me know.   I'm also thinking of turning the group into a topic driven group,   which unfortunately, I think it means we lose all of the posts   out of the out of the main thing that have been made so far, which is a bit irritating. I'm trying to find a way around it, but,   it means we'd be able to split it into certain topics. And of course, one of them would be, I don't know, voice message room or something like that. So you could call in, make a comment, make some scathing sarcastic or very witty thing, play as a tune, make some strange noises with odd parts of your body, that kind of thing, and we could throw it into the show. So if you think that's a good idea Well   you know.  



[01:30:41] Paul Biener:

Yeah. It's it's a fabulous idea, but why don't you just create another room, Paul English live topic?  

[01:30:46] Paul English:

Well, because we we've got 80 people in this one and then they'd all have to go over and join another one. So,   I'm just trying to find a way around it, but you can split them into topics and that would be really good. Then we could have one just about banking, for example. What about cheese making, which would be very popular, I think.   Voice messages,   you know, hemp, how to get your seeds,   how to hypnotize a policeman by doing strange dances from,   Africa and all these sorts of, you know, life skills. That. Yeah.  

[01:31:17] Paul Biener:

We need these life skills. I'd charm a snake on at roadside.  

[01:31:21] Paul English:

Oh, I've been to the snake charming topic. Yeah. That would be great.   Yeah. We could do we could do a bit of that. So,   what I'll do is maybe I'll set it up,   and everybody will go, no. We don't want this or whatever, but I think I'll I'll probably do that on the Telegram group. If it all goes a bit pear shaped, we can switch back to the current format. We don't lose the messages.   They actually still exist, but I you can't see them. For some odd reason, it it doesn't just move them into one of the topics, which which is a bit bizarre, I thought. But, we'll give that a go.   So I'll have to sort of let Ria know that I'm thieving the idea, but of course, I've given credit where it's due, and,   I'll give it again. I think it's a neat idea. I didn't hear much of the show on Sunday because I was busy. I don't know what I was doing. Oh, yeah. I was sort of trying to lay waste to some trees in my garden, which is a huge job for me. But,   yeah. So there we go. So if you feel a little bit awkward about calling in live, and I do understand why, you know, you've got to talk to Paul here. It's always a bit off putting and Patrick in the warehouse, and me guessing on. But if you wanted to record,   a message sort of, you know, out of hours or whenever you're inspired or something like that, then maybe that's a way of pulling it in, and we can start throwing a few clips from you from,   you rumblers. You the grumblers aren't rumble. You're not grumblers, actually,   But all the rabble. Yeah. No. Yeah. Not even rabble, but you get the idea. So   all of the chatters in rumble. You could, it's an opportunity to say a few words.  

And charmers or revolters or whatever.   No foul language. Or suggest a topic for discussion on the show. Yeah. Yeah. I could. Yeah. Or people send them in whilst the show's on. So it's a little bit late today. We're we're kinda through the bulk of the show already. Yeah.  

[01:33:07] Paul Biener:

Well, you could do one minute things. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like the 1 minute messages.   Mhmm. Yeah. Suggestions for topics.   Yeah.   Could we did could we do another song? Because I I would I I would really like to see if we can work in that Travis tune,  

[01:33:22] Paul English:

because I wanna I wanna know that and support him. What's going on tonight? I'm just getting bullied about songs. First of all, you know, where I want a song, now you want one. He's outrageous.   It's absolutely it's preposterous. Oh oh, I see. You've just sent it through again. Well, that's that's great. That's good. Yeah. At least I don't have to organize my own songs. This is good. I'm just grabbing hold of it. Here we go. Just a minute. Let's have a look here.   Yes. Okay.   Why don't you give the back story to this? What's the back story to this? Because there's a back story to this song, isn't there?   I don't want to say don't you want to say do you wanna say afterwards? Let's do the back story after the song. You're so difficult, Paul.  

I was gonna it's just so A contrarian. What can I say? I know. I know. But I'm a visionary.   Are you?   Well, that's good.   Here we go. So, look, we're gonna take a break. Who is this, by the way? Who is the artist today? This  

[01:34:18] Paul Biener:

is,   this is   Randy Travis,   sort of.  

[01:34:23] Paul English:

Oh, yeah. Randy Travis, so Later.   Okay. And is the title of the song Donnie Iris? Is that the title of this song? No. No. No. No. No. No. Where that no. It's it's Randy Travis. Where That came from is Oh, I've grabbed hold of the wrong stuff. The one a couple of messages up from that. Oh, no. Oh, look what I've done.   Oh, god. It's okay.   I'm trying to find it. I'm just about to play something. I don't know from where. Oh, is it the one from Monday?   That one.  

[01:34:54] Paul Biener:

Yeah. It's it's the it's the the one On Google Drive. I just sent it to you. It's 4 messages   back from the most recent. It's right above the who  

[01:35:05] Paul English:

Is it? In Skype.   You don't see that? I've got it here in the browser anyway. I think I could just oh, mind it. We want yours, don't we? We want we want the b mix version, don't we? Just a minute. Well, of course.   I'm terribly sorry, everybody, but,   old mister 8 fingers and 4 thumbs can't seem to sort it. Ah, now I see. It's got this great big g in front of it.   Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay.   Punch that baby up. Alrighty. It's coming up. Okay. It's the one that's got a video on it too. Yeah? Alright. Yes. Alright, okay. I think I can play it straight from the browser. Okay so this is oh Paul will tell you the story,   in a few seconds. And somebody here, Mr Sandman says give me my own channel.  

I think on Telegram. Okay, let's have a song. We'll be back in a few minutes time.  

[01:36:14] Unknown:

She had eyes like diamonds,   and they're coughing like.   Oh, but they were   dark and deeper   than   the   night.   But when she smiled,   out came the sun,   and there ain't no more where   that came from.   She had a dress that swayed   all around her knees,   And the   voice is   soft   as the summer breeze.   A touch that told me   I was the one,   and there ain't no   no more   where that came from.   Oh,   where that came from.  

[01:39:01] Paul Biener:

Good song. Good song.  

[01:39:04] Paul English:

So, Paul, what's the backstory to the Good Song, Good Song?  

[01:39:08] Paul Biener:

Well, the backstory is in 2013,   Randy Travis   suffered a major stroke   followed by another stroke.   It took his ability to walk, took his ability to talk, his ability to sing,   cost him the use of his right hand and arm,   stuck him in a wheelchair   that he is in to this day.   And what that song is,   it was just recently   released.   It's the first music that Randy Travis has released in 11 years,   and it was   a different singer. They had a band   in the studio.   They laid down the music track,   they had a vocalist   come in,   and then they took that vocal track and they processed it with AI   and made   it Randy.  

So everything in that song   beside the vocal track was legit,   recorded,   in the standard way.   But Randy Travis's voice, the lead,   was AI. It was an AI   massage of another singer.  

[01:40:32] Patrick Chenal:

Yeah. And Randy Travis is very famous here  

[01:40:36] Paul English:

in America. I don't know. Have you ever heard of him, Paul? Yep. I've heard of him. I've not heard much of his music, but the name is known to me. Yeah. I mean   yeah. It is. Yeah. That's quite a story, Paul.   See? Modern technology.  

[01:40:51] Paul Biener:

That song is available on Amazon as a single track. It will cost you a dollar 29¢   to add it to your library.   Just search Randy Travis where that came from.   You get it right from Amazon Music.   And and I would do that because   I want I bought the song, and I don't bother in many. I bought the song to support him and his efforts, and,   I just appreciate the fact that,   it's very difficult   for him to to   manage life, you know, being in a wheelchair and everything else. Yep.   And he is still   doing everything that he can to make music for us.   We need to support that.  



[01:41:39] Paul English:

He's quite smiley in the video, isn't he? Yes. Quite smiley.  

[01:41:43] Paul Biener:

Well, he's doing something he hadn't been do he hadn't been able to do for 11 years.   I   mean, it's a   huge part of his life. Yep. Huge part of his life that   2 strokes back to back took from him.   So   hats off to him.  

[01:42:02] Paul English:

Hats off to him.  

[01:42:04] Paul Biener:

Thank you for indulging me.  

[01:42:06] Paul English:

No. It's it's great. I didn't have to pick too many songs. You picked them all, which is really good. And,   Patrick, you're back from the warehouse.   I'm back from the warehouse. Yeah. You were talking about the, prison system. No. You're loud now. Isn't he loud, Paul? He's so You're so loud. He is wonderfully loud. He will. Yeah. I'm I'm   I'm reducing your amount of decibels. We're taking some off you. Sorry about that. No. It's okay. That's cool. I want my decibels back.   Yeah. Nice and loud, Patrick. Yeah. Good. Good to have you back in the warehouse.  

[01:42:41] Patrick Chenal:

Yeah. You're you you reminded me the warehouse. Yeah. And then you talk with the prison system and the labor. It kinda makes me feel right at home, you know.  

[01:42:52] Paul English:

Right. Okay.   Yeah.  

[01:42:55] Patrick Chenal:

Kind of the work I've been doing in the past month or 2 is going back to that old factory work instead of farm works. So it's   crossover between farm and factory right now.   Mhmm.   Yeah. I like the farm work better. You deal with pigs, don't you? Do you deal with pigs, Patrick? I still deal with pigs. Yeah. Pigs in a in a cow. We've got one cow left over out of 16.   So  

[01:43:19] Paul English:

Wow. So no more no more cows soon. Is it, like, is it cows gone for good? Yeah? I don't I don't know. We There's talk  

[01:43:26] Patrick Chenal:

of, bringing her over to neighboring   stud farms, so to speak. Right. Getting her pregnant. So we'll see. We might have more cattle coming.   I don't know yet.  

[01:43:39] Paul English:

On this,   on this,  

[01:43:44] Patrick Chenal:

sorry. Oh, I was listening to you talk about,   Mitford's Goodson and and Michael Hudson   and the and the debt problem, how it could so easily be solved, and   the the the silly man that that works for the Fed that doesn't even know   how the Fed works. He's ins  

[01:44:02] Paul English:

it's just amazing.   That's what we're up against. You go, what? Look. I I I think they just wheeled him out, but he's just he's like   they they got to I mean, I know there are people with brains. I'm assuming that maybe that's wrong assumption.   But   they   they certainly don't. They don't have enough brains, but, of course, they're very good at   making everybody think that they do. It's a bit like the emperor's got no clothes type of thing. Oh, no. No. It's a federal reserve. They know what they're doing. Well, they do know what they're doing. It's just that what they say they're doing is not what they're doing. They're doing something for them. It's not for you.   But, yeah, that's, I don't know why they don't just what he said, I don't know why we just don't print more money.  

Great.   Yeah. That that's really good. That's that's how we got we've come so far. Just keep printing money, and then we've got more wealth, apparently, and then it's sort of just gonna be great. I mean, you know, who could have thought that just printing more money would solve everybody's problems?   Not  

[01:44:56] Patrick Chenal:

remarkable. No.   No. They're not. Like you say, they're not fit for purpose. They're not.   They're not. Their job.  

[01:45:04] Paul English:

Yeah. How do you get a job there? Do you wanna go work at the Fed? I don't know. They'd never they, you know, cut up. I wouldn't either. You'd have to work with people like that. You imagine me in conversations with things like that around a coffee table. It's just are you kidding me? What? What's going on? I used to work for a court reporting business, and we dealt with people from the Fed doing depositions. And I'd see depositions of these people, and they're just like, I have more brains than some of these people, and I'm I'm not all that bright. I don't think I'm all that bright.  

[01:45:32] Patrick Chenal:

They just they get in there, and thought if it's nepotism or just who they know, and   they get in there.  

[01:45:38] Paul English:

It's the money trough, isn't it? It's the extended network of the money trough, and it seems to attract a certain character who   is very, very confident. They know exactly what's going on, and the solution is to print more money.  

[01:45:51] Patrick Chenal:

Because they're given that power. They're given that power to give out line of lines of credit to whomever they desire.   Yes. You know, sure they might have some rules to that, but at the top they they it's basically whoever favors them, they they favor them back. It's a dirty deal. Especially with people who work,   who actually do manual labor and   they don't really get that ability to negotiate  

[01:46:17] Paul English:

what their labor's worth No. They don't. Consequence.   I mean, there's nothing really that dynamic there that you're talking about, there's nothing new about that. This is ancient. This   what do you call it? Is it resentment or anger or irritation that those in charge have with the plebs, with those peasants?   I'm, I mentioned a couple of weeks ago this,   great poem called The Red Dagger by Heathcote Williams, which is about the peasant's revolt of 13 81 and what Tyler.   And, there's a line in there about I forgot the name of the mayor. But the the mayor when Tyler   is talking to the king, they actually talked to one another. They're both on horseback   in London.  

And there's a lot of Tyler's men there, like, 1,000.   There's a lot.   I think it's Walworth, who's the mayor, if I might have got. He's   incensed   by the tone and manner that Tyler takes with the king. In other words, he's addressing him as an equal,   which he is. Right? He's probably not even an equal. Right? But Walworth was so incensed,   he   stabbed. He he went behind the back of town and killed him for it. Not instantaneously. He died a few days later from the wound.   But it was like he just couldn't abide the idea that the peasants are actually talking to us, their natural masters.   Is this this is the thing   that is not new, and there have been really, you know,  

[01:47:50] Patrick Chenal:

intense, vivid examples of it in English history that really Oh, even in ancient history. Yeah. In the biblical history of King David and Bathsheba   and sending her husband out to the front line of the battlefield for him to die so that he could have her as his wife. Mhmm. You know, that's the   story right there.   Yep. Of what it, you know, the essence of power and what it can do to corrupt leaders.   Yeah. I mean, it's it's it's not so bleak though that they'll,   they can't change it and we can't turn it around. It's just we have to get enough people aware of the problem.   To do it. I mean And that's the thing and taking taking people seriously who are talking about it is we have a real credibility issue   on our side Yes. Being taken seriously.  

Yes. And it goes back to Lindbergh.   I studied him because I'm somewhat related through marriage to the to the Lindbergh family and This is Charles Lindbergh. Right? And Charles Lindbergh Junior? Senior Yep. And senior. The the senator. He was the one   who was opposed to the Federal Reserve Act when it when it happened. And he wrote the minority review. If you go back to look at the old   the actual Federal   Reserve Act,   there's in the beginning a prelude   which is called the minority view, which is against   the passage of it   by Charles Lindbergh. Mhmm.  

He goes through the details of why it won't work.  

[01:49:19] Paul English:

Oh, Paul's playing music.   That was that was is that the music that was a nice spontaneous music interlude, Paul. Thanks. He wants to talk. Yeah. He wants to talk. That's hilarious.   No. Where were you, Patrick? Yeah. Sorry.  

[01:49:38] Patrick Chenal:

No. It's it's about,   you know, the Federal Reserve. What do we need it for? What do we need the money trust as it was called by Lindbergh? What do we need the money trust for? Yes. To why can't local banks   decide who gets   loans and who doesn't? Why does it have to be down to   these bigger greater powers in the in the Federal Reserve System,   these separate central banks.  

[01:50:03] Paul English:

Well, you know,   according to the according to the advert in 1913, Patrick, is that you needed a flexible money supply, and we're going to jolly well supply you with 1 whether you want 1 or not.   You're going to have 1.   You know, it's to overcome   all the problems in the banking system. That's why you needed the Fed, and it's done a   job.   It's done a job on everyone.   It hasn't done a great job. It's just done a job. It's just done a job.   Yeah. It's it's done a job.  

[01:50:35] Patrick Chenal:

Yeah. I was I was listening to Joss the boss, you know,   talking about from your neck of the wood. Yeah. He's just over the road figuratively speaking. He is actually. Yeah. He he was reading off of, the Daily Telegraph article about in Germany,   how you're mandated if whether you're a Protestant, Catholic, or Jew,   you're forced to pay tithes based on your association with those three religions.   And you you pay a certain amount of tax, like 9 I think it's like 9%.   Right. As high as 9%   to to each and there was somebody who   became a German citizen and who was, they had done some digging into his baptismal records without him even talking to him. He's from Italy.  

Mhmm. And he found out he had to pay back taxes to the church   for for, like, he's $9 or so.   This is now? This is current? Yeah. This is today. Wow. Current day. Yeah. Yeah. Based on this, baptism   certificate, you know, the the they register the baptism and then you're a member of the church whether it's a Catholic, Protestant, and then I don't know how they do it for Jews, but   they take out a certain percent percentage of that to tithes and the church gets it.   Or I should say churches.   Yeah, and if you don't renounce   that your faith   you're obliged to pay that.  

So he hadn't renounced his his faith, so he,   he was on the hook for it.   According to the Daily Telegraph article   that he was reading from, I suppose you could go look that up and find out exactly what's going on. We we we can safely assume that the church does really good things with the money. Right?  

[01:52:28] Paul Biener:

Oh, yeah.   Yeah.  

[01:52:31] Paul English:

I I mean, I I just But otherwise otherwise, it'd be just a free will offering. Right? Yeah. And then you do all sorts of bad things with that. I'm sure the church do really godly and good things with it because, you know, they've got a reputation for something like that,   possibly,   maybe not.  

[01:52:47] Patrick Chenal:

Well, if anything, you'd think it'd make people wanna steer clear of religion as a consequence of it too. Just say, oh, I know I'm an atheist. I don't need to pay to anybody.  

[01:52:57] Paul Biener:

I'll I'll give to a church as long as they won't allow me to write it off.   Mhmm. Because if they allow me to write it off, they're a 501c3organization,   and and they've   they've shifted their allegiance to the state and not to God. And and if they've done that, they have nothing to say that I wanna hear.  

[01:53:17] Patrick Chenal:

Well, yeah, the the   there again, the Federal Reserve, that's shortly after that, communism,  

[01:53:28] Paul Biener:

really, isn't it? Well, it was the  

[01:53:30] Patrick Chenal:

It's communism, really, isn't it? Well, it was the 16th amendment. I don't know when exactly it happened. The internal revenue code was was in the 8 what? 18   It was previous to yeah. In the Philippines and that sort of thing. Yeah.   But as far as when they forced everybody,   it it was meant originally for the rich people.   But after Pearl Harbor is when   they decided to tax everybody income everybody's income  

[01:53:56] Paul Biener:

regardless of how much you made.   It was originally meant for employees of the United States government.   It was it was an employment   tax if you worked for the government,   but they,   they let everybody else   volunteer   by filling out a w four form   and agreeing   to file a 10 40 form.   But if you don't fill out the w four,   you have no requirement to fill out the 1040.   And if you're a nonresident   alien,   like a a   US National,   then you just   file a 10.40 and R.   And put 0 as your taxable income and   bada bing bada boom, you're done. Mhmm.   And if you had anything withheld and and that was paid into the IRS, guess what? You get every cent   back. You don't get interest, but you get every cent.  



[01:54:58] Paul English:

That that period, you know, the the one with Lindbergh as well, pat Patrick.   The from, you know, the Fed and Lindbergh, the twenties and thirties, that   that whole period   is actually much livelier, really, even,   than is addressed really in in alternative information spaces. But, one of the things that's really good about Goodson's book,   which I really enjoyed going through again,   was   a speech which he puts in in full. It's too long for me to read out here. It'll take about 10 minutes. Maybe I should record it or we need to get an American because, you know, it wasn't a of Louis Yeah. I'll do it. Louis t McFadden.   And,   it's an amazing speech. It's absolutely it's wonderful. It really is a tremendous thing.  

He's I mean, I'll just the only paragraph is, mister chairman,   we have in this country one of the most corrupt institutions the world has ever known.   I refer to the Federal Reserve Board and the Federal Reserve Banks.   Now that's the sort of speeches that we need to you we need to mister speaker,   we have in this country one of the most corrupt institutions the world has ever known. I refer, of course, to the Bank of England   and the private cartel that owns it, who, are not known by the public at large. This institution,   for the last 300 odd years, has been the cause of more war, death, destruction, and ruin for not only the British, but of all the blah blah blah. You know, we need stuff like this because it's true. These are the speeches that we've never heard.  

It's a wonderful thing.   Also, in, I I mean, I've read this so many times, but it's about 5 years since I read it. I think I read it a couple of times when it first came out.   There is a letter in here,   from Major Douglas, Major CH Douglas. Douglas. Now Douglas is the guy that came out with social credit. It's a brilliant idea. It's   a another way of effectively removing the control of central banks,   private central banks, and putting the people back on top. And this is from he had, a magazine that was the social creditor   for political and economic realism.  

This is the edition from Saturday, May 4,   1930   5, I think it is. I think it's 5. It's very blurred. I can't read it all at the moment. Maybe I'll, I'll type it up because it's   a very poor copy, but it's in the book.   Letter this is what it's titled. Letter to Herr Hitler.   Publication of the following letter addressed to the Fuhrer and dispatched through a trustworthy channel is authorized by Major Douglas. May   19 oh, it's May 1939. I'm I can see it a little clearer now. May 1939.   And it starts off Herr Fuehrer, as an introduction to the attached memorandum, I would request permission   to bring to the notice of your   eminent self the following observations.  

And it's about it's about the economic policy.   And so, I'm with Douglas and Herr Hitler on this. I don't know where you stand but I'm pretty clear where I stand with all this kind of stuff.   And it, that's kind of what's going oh, has that played a little bit too early or a little bit too late? Let me just good grief. Look at the time.   What's going on? My  

[01:58:08] Paul Biener:

how how time flies when you're having fun.  

[01:58:11] Paul English:

It really   does.  

[01:58:13] Patrick Chenal:

Yeah. My apologies for for not being here during the thing. I should think so.  

[01:58:18] Paul English:

Hey, that warehouse, by the way, that warehouse, how big is it, Patrick? Is it pretty big? Oh, not quite. No. Not not that big. You could probably fit maybe a couple semis in it then, I guess. How many bankers could we get in there? That's what I was thinking.  

[01:58:32] Paul Biener:

Oh, plenty.  

[01:58:34] Patrick Chenal:

Not   not enough.  

[01:58:37] Paul Biener:

Not enough. I don't know. They're pretty fat.  

[01:58:40] Paul English:

Hey. We're down we're down to the last minute,   here on WBN. So, thanks everyone for tuning in. We'll be back again next Tuesday, same time, 3 PM US Eastern, 8 PM in the UK.   I've been joined this evening by or this afternoon, depending on where you are. Paul Bina. Thank you, Paul.   And, Patrick, who's just returned from the warehouse, and we'll have to have more of you next time around, Patrick, but obviously, work got in the way. And we'll be back again.   This did start a little bit too early. I've got about 10 seconds of silence at the end. So,   we'll be back again, as I said, next week.  

I wasn't really planning to do a post show here,   but if you want one, we'll be on Rumble. We might be talking for a few minutes more. So there we go.