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Broadcasts live every Thursday at 8:00p.m. uk time on Radio Soapbox: http://radiosoapbox.com

Thomas Anderson returns to discuss conspiracy theories, Third Reich technology and the mysteries of UFOs. Thomas shares his personal journey into these subjects, recounting stories of hidden German submarines, advanced flying saucers, and time-traveling devices. We also explore the enigmatic figure of Viktor Schauberger and his revolutionary implosion engine. The episode takes a deeper dive into the concept of anti-gravity and time manipulation, touching upon the Philadelphia Experiment and the Montauk Project. We also discuss GeoScan technology the broader implications of these technologies and their potential impact on our understanding of the universe. 

[00:00:01] Unknown:

And hello. Good morning. Good afternoon. Good evening. Good middle of the night to you. We were just,   fiddling with our technicals there. It's Thursday,   25th   April already already it is,   2024.   This is Paul English Live. Welcome to the show.   Welcome back to a wet and windy April in the UK. I hope the weather's better where you are, but it's been very, very cold.   And, we have a returning guest here. These things are beginning to build up now after a few months of broadcasting, which is great. Thomas Anderson is gonna be with us for the next 2 hours.   And if you haven't seen the picture for the show, the image, you can see if you're on rumble. It might give you, well, a pretty strong clue about what we're gonna be talking about tonight, which should be intriguing.  

And I've got, extra special added bailing wire, glue and wires for tonight's show, but so far,   fingers crossed,   it's holding up. It's holding up, Scotty.   Well, hi everyone and welcome back. Just checking all our little signals and everything like that and things are looking pretty good. Welcome to show Paul English Live. We're here every Thursday   here on wbn 324   at, 3 PM US Eastern Time, 8 PM   for us British types over here in jolly old England.   And, as I was mentioning there, we have a returning guest tonight. Thomas Anderson is with us. We've just spent,   the last, 10 minutes having a lot of extremely hectic fun sorting out wires and speakers and audios and things like that. But, he's not in our main studio tonight because we've, we've cobbled together something at the last minute, but fingers crossed it's gonna hold up okay.  

And,   those of you that were here about a month or so ago know that,   Thomas was on with us for 2 shows in a row. So already, you know, this is, he's taking over the show, which is really rather good. Thomas, good evening to you. Welcome to the show. Good. How are you? Good evening, Paul. Yeah. Fantastic. Is is the sound quality okay?   It's not as good as we would expect in a luxury thing, but it's completely acceptable. And,   I'm just I'll just try and think of a few things. There's a little bit of sort of, what would you call it, fluffiness about it. But I'm you're probably so loud. Are you coming through on a slightly different microphone tonight?  

[00:03:56] Unknown:

Maybe. Yeah. Maybe. We we tried several tonight, the last 10 minutes. So I I I hope it's working.  

[00:04:04] Unknown:

It is. No. It's fine. I'm just doing a few sound sound level checks. They seem to be okay. We couldn't, I didn't have enough time to do all that kind of stuff right at the beginning. But, anyway, look, technical things aside, which, of course, is, part and parcel the joys of this show,   welcome back.   I'll I think it was about 5 weeks or so that you were last on. Can you believe that? I mean, it's just sort of the time is   just like that. Just like that. It's absolutely light speed. It is.   And I don't know whether you saw the blurb that I put out for this, but I just want to read it to you. I said after this is regards to you, of course.   It says, after some time spent on a long journey through time and space,   Thomas Anderson returns to talk about how he started his research,   how he connected with conspiracy theories,   how that led him to 3rd right technology, and to people and evidence showing that all the science fiction stories are in fact   real.  

So that's that's the background to I'm just gonna sit here and let you talk for 2 hours.   Do I have to do anything? You said already. I've taken over. Okay. Yeah. Well, what yeah. I don't know if you've seen the image for the show, but I I sent this off to our graphics person,   the other was it yesterday or today? Anyway, when it came through and I saw it overnight, I went, wow.   And, it really sends out a fantastic message. And I I   she said, what do you think about it? I said, it's brilliant. I love it.   Can I just sit back and listen to the show? I just want to get a beer.  

I want to be entertained, which is terrible. I mean, it's terrible. I've brought you on so that I can leg it and and listen. No. I'll probably say a word or 2, Thomas. I probably will, but it's good to have you back. What have you been doing in the past 5 weeks? Anything amazing? Flying have you been flying around the universe? What's going on?  

[00:05:53] Unknown:

Unfortunately, there was no flying saucer picking me up this time, but but,   I still hope for it to to to to land in my garden and and   and take me for a ride.   But until now,   unfortunately,   nothing like that happened.  

[00:06:07] Unknown:

Oh,   I used to dream about that a lot when I was a kid. There were   there were some fields near us that usually were full of cows,   which is not a bad thing. I'm not against cows. But when we would go walking across them, it would usually be when the cows were not in the field. And you could go down for about a mile or so. And there was this big pond,   and at the side of this pond on the embankment was this huge rock,   sort of wrongly there because it's just normal countryside. There's this massive sort of rock embedded in the embankment by the side of this pond. I always used to think you know what it's like when you're a kid? I thought behind there, there's a tunnel and it goes into some place and it's just full of flying saucers. And one day, I'm gonna get one. And I used to dream about having one because I was heavily influenced by do you remember that? I don't know if you've got it over there. There was that TV series,   Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea,   which   it used to well, it was great. It was actually probably in retrospect, I bet it's really pretty bad.  

But they had this thing called the flying sub,   and it was a bit like a sort of manta ray type thing, and I really wanted this. So whenever they got into real trouble, they had to get into this   flying sub, and it would be led out of the main   submarine, and it would come out of the war room, fly around. And the sixties were full of sort of little gadget type things like that and flying vehicles and it, it sparks you off.   But anyway, that's that's me and my incredibly nondescript   stories.   Where would you like to begin?   Because you're gonna begin wherever you want to begin. Ready?  



[00:07:40] Unknown:

When we talked about the show, I I told you that I would love to to simply tell a story,   because   when   and our listeners, I I guess that they know it very well from from their own experience.   When you talk about the so called conspiracy theories when it comes especially to UFOs   or to flying saucers, to Third   Reich, Wund Waffen, these these fabulous,   weapons nobody can explain, nobody,   ever wanted to confirm, etcetera.   It's it's simply for for most of the people a conspiracy theory.   Some of them believe, some of them don't believe, some of them doubt, and and   but it's hard very hard to to get a proof in your own hands.  

It it's,   hard to to get that sorted out, all all those doubts in your mind. And and Yeah. When you discuss those topics with other people,   of of course, they ask you, where's the proof? If you don't have a proof, what are you talking about? It's it's nonsense.   Mhmm.   So I just wanted to tell you my own personal story, which, of course, is again for our listeners, for you not first end, it's it's second end because I am telling you my story and you don't experience this your it yourself. But but perhaps it it gives you,   some more confidence.  

And I think the the confidence to to really start to know instead of believe,   is a very important thing. It it was, for me, very important, and that this is why I wanted to tell you my my story. So just let let let me start right from the beginning.  

[00:09:21] Unknown:

The first time Before you do that, before you do that Yeah. Just before you do that. Before before I take over the show. No. No. It's good. I want you to. This is really really great. I'm I'm I've got a big glass of gin. No. I haven't. I've got some I've got some apple juice and I'm I'm all here. But the I just want to just check a thing if we can just improve your sound a little bit more.   Are you using a headset or something right now? Is that what you're using? Okay. So the microphone is probably a little bit too near to your mouth and we're getting quite a bit of if you could just get the mic a little bit away from your mouth   and then talk to him. That's nice. Yeah. That's way better. I can give you more volume again. Yeah. Talk again. Just talk for a bit. Okay. I I'm I'm taking over now the show when the song quality is is good and Cool. For you. That's great. That's really almost as good as the other thing. That's very, very good. Yeah. Just it's it's stopping all the all the breathing stuff. Brilliant. Anyway, sorry to interrupt you, but now we're gonna get it crystal clear. So I'm about the first part with this stuff. Wonderful. So the first time I I got in contact with  

[00:10:17] Unknown:

Third Reich,   flying saucers, etcetera, was when I was a young school boy. I I I hitchhiked,   back home. It was only a   road   way off of 10 kilometers or so. So it of course, my mother told me not to hitchhike, but I did it anyway. So I hitchhiked, and   and and got in the car of a young man, who out of nowhere, out of the blue, told me something about a Third Reich and and flying saucers, and and and that the Germans had these UFOs, and and were all,   in Antarctica, and and and and stuff like that. I didn't believe, I couldn't believe No. I'm   I wondered, and I looked at him   as if he came from Mars or something. I I got out of the car, and it it wasn't a bad thing, and it wasn't a bad experience, but this this was simply the first time I I heard about stuff like that. I was,  

[00:11:12] Unknown:

I don't know, 14 or 15 years old. Oh, what a time to hear it, though. That's planted a seed. That's a great time to get that going. It's a long time ago.  

[00:11:22] Unknown:

We don't need to do that. This this was the first time. And and then I I didn't hear anything about that for for, let's say, 10 years.   I heard a lot, of course, in in in history in in in the history   lessons in school about the Third Reich, about Hitler, the the normal   bullshit you you are forced to learn or to listen to in in school.   And,   then,   those of the listeners who perhaps had   the the time to read my book, they know that there was a so called mister x,   who opened my eyes.   And when he opened my eyes and after he opened my eyes,   I started   to to read   a lot.  

There are several books,   about,   flying saucers, about Third Reich, about Freemasons, and and all this stuff, hundreds of books. Yep. So I I learned more about   UFOs, about,   Third Reich Technology,   about, the bell, for example,   and and other stuff. And I found it   fascinating.   Fascinating because the physics   are very interesting to me, and,   the   the wide spectrum of of possibilities   of   of scientific,   areas to cover   of of things you couldn't imagine   20 or 30 years ago,   was amazing to me.   So I I I was very interested. I I,   I read a lot about these these different technologies, and,   together with my   research   in the area of ancestry, genealogy,   I,   at some point of time, got in contact with an Austrian guy called Claus Donner.  

Claus Doner   used to be a logistics   expert   for museums   who had,   of course,   the the the chance to to enter the the basements,   of those museums where all the stuff was hidden, which they didn't want to show to the public. The secret goodies in the basement. The really super secret. Very secret stuff. Yeah.   For example,   a skull 50000000 years old with a bullet hole in in in the in the front head   and and   a hammer made of of iron of of 95 percent iron which which couldn't   be manufactured on earth without 2 atmospheres of pressure,   and also many 1000000 years old.  

Stuff like that, crystal skulls, for example, that was one very important point.   I showed him my ancestry research. He was very interested.   We we became friends,   and   I   learned that he was an expert   in   crystal skulls.   There are   when I when I remembered. Right? There are there are 13 crystal skulls on this planet, 13 real ones, and the rest is just falsification.   The rest is fraud.   Several years again later,   with all the knowledge in my head about,   the flying saucers,   UFO, about Viktor Schauberger, for example,   who was one of the   the first people   in in the area of of the technology they they start then later used for these flying sources.  

Yeah. With all this knowledge in my head, I heard that Klaus got a telephone call,   from one   young man.   I think his name was Thomas, but I'm not sure about that. Mhmm. Thomas   had a mother   who,   2 or 3 weeks before that, the telephone call died,   and   he went to the house of his mother and and had to simply clean up the house to to be able to sell it.   Under the roof, he found   3 wooden boxes   with,   Swastika on it,   there was a German language written on it,   do not open these boxes, you are punished with death,   and it's, property of of Himmler was written on these three boxes.   Oh, really? He didn't he didn't know anything about these boxes. He never saw them. He never heard about them. His mother didn't talk about them. I heard that that he called Klaus Donner because in one of these three boxes,   there was a crystal skull, and they were wondering if if this was a real one or not. And and they heard that Klaus Werner was an expert, so they called him.  

Klaus went to this,   man and and checked this. It was kind of found out it was was right. It it was a correct one, a real one. Yes.   Then they   sat together with some   other people, which I,   or whom I later got to know better,   and they they examined   these three boxes.   One of these boxes contained only   plans, only paperwork   about   many, many   tens or even hundreds of different,   submarines, German submarines,   about their courses, about where they were going, where they had been going, where they took which load, and and brought it whatever where.   And,   the second box   contained   plans, technical maps, and technical drawings about u f so called UFOs,   which then turned out to be the the German,   flying sources   with the name Hounde Bu 123   and Vriel Machine, and   JFM that is the,   the Yacht FM, the Ginzeit Sluchmaschine means,   translated in English,   the Beyondness   Flying Machine,   and the Andromeda   Machine.  

So technical drawings about this machinery.   Yeah.   So they examined all this, and they they discussed   what this all is about.   I got in contact with some of these people regarding   a new technology called GeoScan.   It's it's now something  

[00:18:03] Unknown:

This is something you mentioned to me a few years ago, didn't you, when we first Yeah. Exactly.   We first connected to customer yes. Geoscan is a method  

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with which you can analyze,   for example, Google Maps pictures,   simply the satellite pictures. You can also analyze   pictures taken from from an airplane, taken from a satellite,   taken from from a weather balloon, whatever. Just pictures from far above or even pictures from from your camera taken down   when you're   photographing a house or or you're taking a picture from from mountain into into the,   village down down below the mountain. Just analyzing pictures,   analyzing   regarding the colors.   So, what is the so important about the colors?   For those listeners to got a who got a mobile phone to who have a mobile phone now in their hands, I'm I'm sure they all have a torch   within their mobile phone. Now, if you,   switch on now the torch in your mobile phone, we can, we can very,   fast do a very  

[00:19:10] Unknown:

small test. You know what? You switch on the torch. The the torch in the mobile phone   is actually the best thing about it.   It's one of the best things. It's one of the best I'm I'm doing it right now. Switch on. I've turned yeah. I've turned mine on. Yeah.  

[00:19:25] Unknown:

Yeah. Just turn on the torch now.   Mhmm. Press your thumb.   No. No. Look at your thumb now. Your thumb is clearly   non transparent. You cannot look through your thumb.  

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That's you're probably you're absolutely right. I've got a very solid chunky English thumb. Yes. You're right.  

[00:19:43] Unknown:

A very English one. British British. Yes. A British thumb.   Press your British thumb against the torch.   What you will see is that your thumb will light up in a pink reddish color.  

[00:19:56] Unknown:

Yeah. We used to do all this the time as kids when we'd stick torches under our things, and you can see all the sort of red the undercarriage of reds.  

[00:20:04] Unknown:

Yes. What does this tell you?   It tells you that there's light   coming through your thumb.   Your thumb is transparent.   Not fully transparent, but it's partly transparent   for light. Mhmm.   So this is very important. Now, you can you switch on on off off the torch again. So, now, you, you see already that   you cannot see through your own thumb, but light is able to get through your thumb.   Light is able, in in the different,   frequencies of light, which which we are not able to see, all of them,   light is able to enter and get through every kind of matter.   Of course, when there's very solid matter, only very few particles of of the light are getting through it. But but at least some of them will make the way through it.  

When they go through any kind of matter,   some of   the lights will be absorbed.   And, yes, a very small percentage of the light will get through the matter and will be reflected at some depth and and then come back again to the surface.   This is only a very, very, very small percentage, but you can measure this.   And when getting reflected   from any kind of matter,   the light is the light frequency is changed a bit because of the frequency of the matter it got reflected by.   And this effect can be measured so that you can find out when when you're analyzing the these pictures   what kind of matter is below this solid   Earth I'm seeing.  

So you can find out is there water below the surface in 100 meter depth, in in 1 kilometer depth, in 2 kilometer you can go up you can go down to 6 kilometers of depth. You can find out sweet water, salt water, oil, gas, diamonds, gold, bones, tunnels, whatever.   Everything has its frequency, and everything can be measured and analyzed.   So this technology was was thrilling to me. I heard about that. I got in contact with them, and, astonishingly,   one of those   people was also in contact with this Thomas where they found these 33 wooden boxes. So it came together like a very small circle of people,   with different topics   coming together in in in one small area of of of knowledge or   things to happen. Yeah. Mhmm.  

Okay. So, I,   talked to this man,   and he explained me GeoScan, we talked about   the three boxes,   and   we talked about,   different German technologies. So,   let me now talk a bit about the technological   background. For example, I'm sure most of of the people of of the listeners know the German   project called the Bell Die Locker.   This was a German   project,   located in the,   southern German city of Nagold.   Yes. Where they had a laboratory,   where they experimented   with anti gravity   stuff technology.   They were experimenting   there with,   very fast   rotating,   hollow   cylinders,   which   were filled with liquid   mercury.  

So quicksilver in Germany, quicksilver.   And and when they   rotated these   cylinders very, very fast   and and set those cylinders   under electric power,   the inner liquid mercury   rotated   counterwise,   and   by having these   inner molecules of the Mercury   getting in contact with the outer counterwise rotating   metal surface,   they got   a a speed of,   speed where where these molecules   got in contact with each other, which nearly came to light speed.  

[00:24:23] Unknown:

So this is so inside the bell,  

[00:24:26] Unknown:

inside of it Inside the bell. There's liquid mercury. There's mercury moving around in there at speed. There are very fast rotating cylinders, and inside of these very fast rotating cylinders, there was liquid mercury. Yeah. Right.   Okay. And and with this with this technology,   they started to have   anti gravity   effects and also anti time effects.   They found out that the faster they were rotating these cylinders, the more they got into anti gravity things. That was the the effect that the bell lifted. It was levitating.   Yes. And, unfortunately,   some of the the people and and some of the the plants in that lab died.  

Why?   Because anti gravity   has automatically something to do with anti time. When you kill gravity, you kill time.  

[00:25:16] Unknown:

Okay.   So does this go back so is it is it basically that somebody's running a bell and this is why the second is getting shorter? I'm just tapping back to what we were so I'm being facetious to see. Right? No. Someone's running a bell and that's why the seconds are getting shorter. That's what's going on. Yeah. Well, I Wow. So so last time that there was a planet planetary topic, this time it did small technology. Yes.  

[00:25:41] Unknown:

When they they experimented with this the spell in Nagle, they had these effects that they got to know that,   it was very dangerous to have   an anti gravity effect   without shielding it because   it was dangerous for plants and and biological beings in general, so so humans, animals,   etcetera, because they simply died.   I think I remember it well, 12 of the scientists that died within the first   several several days of of these experiments, and then they later shielded the experiment, and and and from then on, it went good.   So this bell was the,   like, one of the best   kept secrets in in the Third Reich. And when the war came to its end, there were American   task forces and Russian task forces hunting  

[00:26:39] Unknown:

for Racing for it. They didn't know.  

[00:26:41] Unknown:

Yeah. Yeah. They they didn't know where to find it, but they were both,   on on   on on the race,   to to find this.   Astonishingly, the Russians,   although it was Western Germany, the Russians were the first on-site.   And the leading   expert in Russia for anti gravity   experiments is   astonishingly   the son of the officer of the Russian officer who, who at that time,   got at on on-site in in in Nagold in the in in into the German lab. Whereabouts  

[00:27:13] Unknown:

Nagold is the is a town, a village somewhere? Whereabouts is that in Germany?  

[00:27:18] Unknown:

Nagold is near Stuttgart.  

[00:27:21] Unknown:

Okay. So what's that? Is that north? South Southwest.   Southwest, not Northwest. Okay. Gotcha. Yeah. South Southwest. Yeah.  

[00:27:31] Unknown:

In the German lab, they   had,   I think,   experiments and results   nearly 90%   of of gravity were was lift.   The Russian leading experts   today, I think they are officially at something like 3 or 5%.   So so they they took everything away, but they didn't understand everything what they took.   So this is about the Bell.   What I heard about,   for example, the the so called German flying saucers, the Hahnubu 123, I I've sent you some pictures,   this morning,   Yes. I don't know where you put them now. Perhaps you can show them  

[00:28:13] Unknown:

online. I'm trying to, you know you know, I'm using this little tool. Do you know do you know I have no time to even learn how anything works. I'm just so busy. But I've managed I got Viktor Schauberger up about 5 or 6 minutes ago because somebody asked a question. Okay. Let let's talk about Victor Schauberger. I got another  

[00:28:28] Unknown:

very important person. Victor Schauberger is   an Austrian guy,   who   spent his life in the basically in the forest.   He he just watched the forest doing whatever the forest would do. There were there were trees growing, there were birds, there was water,   there were plants, there were leaves,   grass,   what whatever. Mhmm. And he was very   intelligent in,   deciphering   what what he learned there.   And,   his his basic job was to to get down the the trees from from the hill   to the the sewing,   workshops down in the village,   and to do so, they used   horses   and waterways.  

So they built waterways through the forests where the water flew from from up the hill to down the hill, He came didn't he come from  

[00:29:29] Unknown:

a very long line of   his family line were were all people who had who were basically forest people. They'd all been looking after forests for a long, long time. It was literally in his blood, wasn't it? His father was, his grandfather. They understood,   like, the hidden rhythms of the forest, the whole of the way that the water moved, all of these sorts of intricate details that that normal people wouldn't see. Yeah.  

[00:29:53] Unknown:

Yeah. So he he   I'm there there's a book about him where I   I think it's Living Water, Viktor Schauberger, Living Water by Olafsson or something.   What's the name of the author?   Some examples.   These these waterways coming from from uphill and and going leading downhill, of course, they were always downhill because water flows downhill and not uphill.   And   Viktor Schauberger   was,   the one who went to his boss, and I told him, hey, listen.   What we are doing here is not very good because the the   trees are are damaged when they go down, when we do it like like we do it now,   and and this these damages to the trees cost a lot of money, and and I have an, a way where we can save this money. Mhmm.  

And then he showed his plans to his boss, and his boss laughed at him because because his waterways were partly running uphill.   And he told him, Victor,   water cannot flow uphill.   And Victor told told him,   I will do it. I will I will build this thing on my own money, and when it's and when it when it works, you will give me all the money for it. And his boss was okay.   And astonishingly, surprisingly, Victor Schauberger was right. With his installation, the water was running partly uphill.   Unbelievable,   but true.  



[00:31:17] Unknown:

Is that   that whatever it was, is that installation viewable, or are there any photographs of it, you know, from   from times past?  

[00:31:26] Unknown:

I think in the book were some pictures of this installation.   In in the forest, of course, nothing is left   today.   I once met his grandson,   Walter Schauberger is his name, I think.   I talked with him about the these installations about,   Victor's inventions,   but that's a different topic. So this this was one interesting thing. The second interesting thing was   he,   wrote down in his memories that, he once remember he sat   on the,   on the edge of of a lake   in the midst of the forest,   and he simply sat there enjoying   birds singing and and the sun   shining, and and suddenly he recognized that there were waves,   in the lake,   which, were were circling   in direction of the middle of the lake, and and these   waves became   stronger and a little bit bigger. And at some point, were so strong   that they grabbed   a tree, an an old dead tree, which was laying there   on on on the beach of of this lake and sucked this tree into the middle of the lake. And when it arrived in the middle of the lake, this this tree was   lifted in the in the vertical position and then sucked into the lake.  

And only minutes later,   the level of the water of the lake,   became higher, about 5 or 6 centimeters, but recognizably higher. Right. And his theory was   that the water was able to   somehow   eat this   this natural material wood,   and and from from that,   somehow   become more   in in water.  

[00:33:22] Unknown:

So That was his theory. So the the the rivers were the river the lake was having a go at the trees.   That is astonishing.   That is  

[00:33:31] Unknown:

astonishing. Okay. Alright. So Lakes eat trees. Victor was was not only a forest guy, he was also a a technician, and   and, the next thing becomes important,   in in regard of of these flying sources.   Victor Schauberger   thought about   clean and fresh air, and he wanted   to clean   molecules of air like he used to experiences in in the forest, where the the the air was was clean and and and it was a joy to breathe the air. Yes. So he thought about how to do it, and he built a machine called the Repulsene.   Repulsene in in spelled in English, for example. Yeah. And this Repulsene, you you have a picture of this, which I sent you this morning.   It looks exactly like a flying saucer.  

It was about,   2 meters in diameter,   with   a kind of   flying saucer shaped,   outside.   Mhmm. There were inside some counterwise rotating   plates,   which were sucking in the air from the upper side   and inside   bringing them   into very close contact in between the counterwise rotating plates. And and there,   within this   contact area,   the molecules were forced to,   flow by   a triangle shaped form of of this,   rotating plate, which forced the molecules   to part   from each other. So so the the air was   divided,   in in its molecular   structure   by this by this mechanical   movements within the ripple scene,   of Victor Schauberger.  

The astonishing   and and not foreseen effect,   which surprised Victor Schauberger is   that this machine was levitating.   And the first machine,   left his laboratory through the roof and never came back.  

[00:35:33] Unknown:

You know, that is so interesting because,   it's very interesting that a woodsman looking at water should start to build levitating   machines. Obviously, he was a technician as well.   But there's a chap, he may still be alive over here. He had a   a totally different route, I suppose,   called John Searle. Have you heard of this gentleman?  

[00:35:56] Unknown:

Yes. Of course.   There there is a common person in our common network, Paul, which you might remember,  

[00:36:04] Unknown:

and and he wanted to have this technology and and and grabbed it in a very bad way when I remember that. Well, I went I went to I mean, for those that don't know, I I don't want to sort of should give you a little break, but it does augment what you're talking about.   John Searle was actually featured on, a British TV program back here in 1970, I think it was.   And what he what he's known for I think he may still be alive. He'll be very old by now. I met him about 20 years ago   in, a part of London. And,   really rather charming, a little eccentric, but then he'd been working alone for a long time. But he's responsible for a thing called the Sirleaf effect generator.  

And he his story was that he, in the late forties, he was working, I think, for Midland Electric, a big electric,   generating   company here right in the heart of England.   And he started to have dreams about building a device.   And,   he he wouldn't stop mucking about in the workshops doing this. They got quite cross with him and he said   that the whoever was in charge of him at the time said, look, you've got to stop doing this. He said, I can't   stop. He said, well, look, if we give you the money to build whatever you want to do, can you get it built and then you can get back to doing what you're supposed to be doing? You can do this on an evening. So he said sure. So he built something,   using spinning magnets and electric fields is the is certainly the design that I'm aware of.  

And, when they switched it on,   and I don't know quite how they switched it on, it can't have been tethered by cables. So I don't know quite how that worked. But the thing starts to spin and levitates, and he said it sat in the warehouse at a height of about 40 feet,   for several minutes.   They didn't know quite what they were doing. This is the late forties.   As it sat there, all the lights went out. It was sucking all the electricity out the electrical grid, and it and it was making a high pitched sound which was getting higher and higher. And then it it just took off, went through the roof,   and disappeared for good. It never came back.  

And, he was his theory was I mean, it may be more than that now, but certainly when I spoke to him, was that the device was acquiring its own gravitational   field, which was the opposite of the earth. And it was being literally repulsed by the earth like, you know,   as magnets do. And it just shut off. They never got these things back. He built 2 or 3 of   them and they had to stop because he could never retrieve them because they didn't know where they'd gone. They'd   it's a bit of a problem really.   And there are people who have tried to carry that on. It's not Schauberger's water implosion or, technologies that you're talking about, but it's   it's a a sort of similar sort of path in in some way. So We we come to that we come to that effect later. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Okay.  



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So Victor built his Rippozine,   and,   it was   originally a machine to to clean air. That's everything. That's all about it.   And later,   German other German scientists   used this technology   because they heard about the levitating effect   to to start building some some flying machines with this technology.   So, they they build it a little bit   bigger in a diameter of 5 or 6 meters   with an inner cockpit for a pilot,   with   an outside   rotating,   ring of,   let's say, helicopter like blades. So it was very   traditional   way of of of moving this flying machine,   and they,   built the first version of of this flying saucer with a with a   traditional,   conventional   kind of of motor. This is this helicopter technology.  

Helicopter has this central axis where where you rotate the the blades, and this one didn't have a central axis, but there was a ring of blades running outside around   the, the central cockpit. So it was a little bit different from a helicopter, but generally it it is the same thing.   When experimenting   with this thing,   they thought about how to perhaps   make this stuff a little bit better. And   you know very well the the name of Nikola Tesla,   and there were were other people. There was a German called Neumann, but I don't know his surname as Johan or John.   I'm not sure.  

They were also   a part of the the the later experiment, the Philadelphia   experiment, where they tried to,   let   ships   be invisible for radar   and by accident   didn't make them invisible for radar, but but let them disappear from reality   and then and and send them through time.   What they did was a little bit similar to what what you just thought about this the seal.   They experimented with very fast rotating,   electromagnetical   fields. So you remember the Bell, very fast rotating   electromagnetical   effects through,   liquid mercury.   And now this experiment in Philadelphia where they experimented again with very fast rotating   electrical electromagnetic   fields.  

They installed   huge,   electrical devices on these ships,   with with an enormous amount of of, power.   And then they started to,   they started this electromagnetic   field rotating   around the ship in in a very high speed,   and the effect   of   a very fast rotating   electromagnetic   field is that you get rid of   the   the bondage of of the Earth's gravitational field.   So,   in the   on the inner side of these Electromagnetical   Fields,   you have now   an independent   own situation of electromagnetics,   of gravity, whatever,   also of time.   The problem is   what they already found out with the Bell   that   anti gravity experiments have always something to do with anti time.  

And   when you are manipulating   with time,   also on the Philadelphia Instrument, you will experience some problems with time. Sometimes you get rid of time, sometimes you change time and and you travel through time. It Depends on on how these electromagnetic   fields   are are installed,   in in in geometry, in in in power, in in speed, etcetera.   So this was again one one technical,   detail, which you which you find in in a few books   about the Philadelphia Ferment. For example, in,   Preston Nichols, I guess, was one of the 2 people on the ships who survived this experiment.   Preston Nichols and and the other one, I don't know, Montauk experiment was also very important   in in this area.  

So, when they worked on on the German   flying saucers, the so called Hanebu,   the next Hanebu,   version was the the second one, Hanebu 2.   There, they already used   fast rotating   electromagnetic   fields   instead of these outside rotating   helicopter blades with   the conventional   propulsion system.   And by installing now,   like in in Schauberger's Reposene, they had 2 rotating plates in the first version, and on on the outer ring of these rotating plates, they had electromagnetic contact, plus and minus. Very simple. And when you now counterwise,   rotate these plates, it's it's like when you have your your dynamo on on   your bicycle,   there's also plus and minus rotating,   within   a ring of magnets.  

You get electrical power, and,   you get   your source of energy there. So, now you have one   plate with plus and minus rotating   right side, and then the other one,   counterwise   rotating left side, again with plus and minus, and these plus and minus contacts   contact each other. And with a diameter of 12 meter   and a rotating speed of, let's say, 20,000   rounds per per minute,   you get nearly night speed on on this,   contact   speed of of the, like, outer side of of the outside   Electromantic Glitter contacts.   Then,   the effect was that the inside cockpit was disconnected from the Earth's,   gravitational field,   and   inside there was no time.  

With   this problem,   I don't know how many pilots died   in finding out this detail, but   they solved this problem by installing,   let's say, some kind of local time.   So they they they build a machine which was able to,   to to mimic   time   onboard of this Haneboo 2.   This is this is all stuff I read about this Hanobu 2. I I found it fascinating.   I didn't know how it worked.   No idea. I just heard that that Hanobu   1 had already very interesting   flying abilities. Hanobu 2 had a speed of,   when I remember it right, 6000   kilometers per hour,   and a lifting speed of   4000 meters per minute. So it was extremely fast compared to our modern airplanes.  

It could   fly rectangle curves   instead   of of these round curves like our airplanes do today.   So   the   so the the flying capabilities   of of these flying saucers are fantastic.   And, this was all very thrilling to me, and and I heard about all this. And, now, let's come back to to GeoScan.   So, I met these guys with with GeoScan, and I talked about,   these these different technologies with them.   And,   one guy   of of this group told me a story.   He said when   they were   experimenting   with with the contents of of these,   boxes they found there under the roof of of this one person,   They found,   these plans about   different sub German submarines and and where there were,   where they have been last seen, where they were missing, since when they were missing, what what kind of load they had, and they found out that many of those submarines had liquid mercury on board.  

Some of them were   found by by the US Navy,   on their way to Japan, and all of them had tons of liquid Mercury   on board   and you can imagine that the Japanese   might   have been interested also in these experiments about anti gravity   and that was the reason why they wanted to have this liquid Mercury.   And   within   these,   within one of these boxes, there was one submarine   in which they were very much interested in. I don't know exactly why, but they were interested in this Submarine. And with that technology GeoScan,   they tried to locate   this German Submarine, and, astonishingly,   the plans within these boxes   led them   to a Greek island.  

And they   researched with GeoScan,   this the area around this Greek island and they really found this German Submarine.   They located it   below,   one of of these islands there in a in a in   a underground   cave which was only accessible through   seaside   and not accessible via via tunnel through through land, for example.   They were interested in in the submarine, and they went down to Greece.   The group contained the group consisted of 4 people. One of them was sick and he had to stay home, but 3 went to Greece at that time.   And, when they arrived there in in Greece and in Athens on the airport,   they took a bus, went down to the seaside,   they they took a ferry,   went to that island,   and when they arrived there, they had another tour of of 1 hour or so, and and and   at one point of time, they they,   got to a small,   let's say,   restaurant or   or cabin where where people sat down and add something. Mhmm. They waited there for for several hours.  

And   at the minute they simply said, okay,   I don't know if the guy we were talking   with will will come. Let let let's simply leave. At that second,   one very old fisherman,   a Greek fisherman, stood up from a table nearby,   came to that table,   looked at them,   and told them, hey. You are back.   And they looked at each other and said, we are here for the first time. Are you the guy we are we are, we have the the appointment with? Yeah. Yeah. I'm I'm the man.   You are back.  

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Oh, dear. What year is this? What year is this? He  

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took he took out a very, very old picture. You know, the these very old photographs when they get something like yellowish, brownish,   black and white color.  

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Yes.  

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He took out a picture, very old, clearly very old picture,   with these 4 people   of of of of whom only 3 were there on-site, but also the 4th who were sick at home. These 4 people were there on this picture   in SS uniform   on this island   in front of this restaurant they were sitting in.   And this photo was clearly very old.  

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So the photo must have been from, what, the forties? Is that what we're saying, Rafi? Yes. Exactly. And when was when when was this event then when they saw this photo? And then Body line, Raffi.   So 50 years on,   they were still they'd become young chaps again.  

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Yeah. Okay. So they couldn't believe. They they were shocked.   Yes. They   they they couldn't think one clear thought because   it it was it was unbelievable.   Is this a fraud? Is this some kind of magic or trick? Whatever.   And then this man told him,   I understand   your feelings, but   let me give you back something.   And, he told them to to go with him and they left the restaurant for for 2 or 300 meters only away. They went to to the to a nearby   small mountain   where there was a small cave. He opened the door,   to a small   wooden door. They they they entered this small   cellar or basement, whatever,   and took out,   took away a kind of   a big cloth, like like a camouflage cloth,   which was   hovering,   which with which they they covered something. He took away this cloth,   and there was a tripod   with a camera   below this cloth.  

On this camera,   there was,   written on on the on the lens side,   model Fleischmann,   Berlin   1938.   Mhmm.   And and some other thing. And then he explained   them to those people   that   this camera was their property.   And with this camera, they were able to photograph   through   mountains   with the technology called GeoScan.   Now Which they invented in the nineties.  

[00:52:46] Unknown:

Right.   But but okay.   I'm getting confused here. So they're looking at a camera or a lens on a camera from 1938.   They invented they invented the Geoscan company in the nineties,   But are you Yes. Saying or suggesting that that Geoscan was based on not that they'd acquired back in the late thirties?  

[00:53:08] Unknown:

No?   However you want to see it, I don't know.   If, for example,   let's let's take it either way.   Whatever solution you may think of, it requires a time traveling machine.   So you may invent the technologies back in the nineties and then somehow transport it into the 19 thirties. It's possible.   You may invent this technology into the 19 thirties and then transport those people into the nineties when they were born.   But how do we explain the picture?   I I don't know. They didn't know.  

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The only thing Hang on. This is on a post yard, please.   Anybody out there know how to explain that one? That's   yes.  

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So they they were thrilled. They they were shocked,   and and they had absolutely no idea   how to judge about   this   very strange situation.   So, they they took the camera,   they, took it back home with them,   left the island, and and   and started then thinking about what what the hell   happened just there.  

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Yes.  

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So this this was one story he told me.  

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So when they were on this island in the nineties,   roughly, what age were they then? They were, what, in their thirties or forties, were they? Or Forties. Late late some,  

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one of them was, I think, end of thirties and and the other one, forties. Yeah. Forties.  

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Mhmm. When in fact, they should have been about 90 years of age   if things had been normal.  

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They should have been in their eighties nineties. If yeah. There are a lot of ifs in this situation. Yes. Yeah.   Okay. Yep. And then we come we we come back to one of these boxes.   In,   one of these boxes, I I I told you already, there were these plans about submarines, and in the other one, there was this crystal skull,   which was proven to be   a a real one. Mhmm. So not not from Earth.  

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And What do when you say that, when you say crystal   skull, are you because, obviously, most people may well be familiar with that Indiana Jim Jam Jones film that came out in the crystal skull. Exactly like that. Exactly guys that. So what? It's an elongated   skull of a of a of a being that is not human? It's just or it's a human skull  

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or something human? I don't I'd I've never seen the original, so I can only tell you what they told me. They they only spoke about a normal crystal skull, so I assume it will a normal, not elongated  

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skull. Right.   Yep.  

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I think So I'll go with you. There was there there was one other thing,   within these boxes. And,   when I talked to that man,   when I met him about the different technologies, about,   anti gravity,   about Hanover 1, 2, 3, and and the,   the story with with time traveling machine that that that has to be somehow   in this story,   we we came to the point   that within this anti gravity machines, within the Saunaboo 2, they had this strange effect that that you need an onboard   time.   And,   that's without this onboard time, the pilots were not able to survive because   a biological being needs time.  

The chemistry within the body needs a before and now and then after   to to to get this chemical process   somehow running.  

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So when you say they needed time inside   the Hanaboo or whatever it was, you're not talking literally about just having a wristwatch.   Are you are you talking about some kind of device that resettles time or is that? A wristwatch  

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is something which is related   with   and somehow   working with electromagnetic   fields. And when you use a stuff, a machine like this, within an anti gravity machine,   you're sucked.   It doesn't work.  

[00:57:15] Unknown:

What if it was a mechanical pocket watch from 1852   or something?  

[00:57:21] Unknown:

Exactly.   Now we are coming very close. Yes. Oh, good.  

[00:57:25] Unknown:

Horology   to the rescue. Got you.  

[00:57:29] Unknown:

So we we talked about, this, I I talked about,   these things with this man, and   he then, at some point, within the discussion, he he asked me, do you want to see 1?   I looked at him. What what do you mean? He has this this onboard time.   How do you mean that? Yes. Yeah. I have it here.   And   I I couldn't believe it. I I was I was shocked and and thrilled because at that moment,   everything what I read about this technology, about local onboard time, about anti gravitation, and and how to boot 123,   Everything   led to the point that somehow you need this onboard time. And now he wanted to show me   a small device   Yes. Which was coming exactly out of of one of these three boxes, and and was a spare part for the Honorable 2.  

So he took out a small carton,   and I've sent you the picture this morning. This is the gold colored   mechanical clockwork.  

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Oh, right. Okay. If I can if I can move my fingers in the correct space, I'll try and bring that up for everybody, and we'll do that. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. I'll be looking for that while you're talking.  

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So he gave me this small carton. It it was the size of   20 centimeters   by   15 centimeters by 10 centimeters, so so quite small. Mhmm.   I I was sitting in front of him, taking the Katong in my two hands, opened it, and and out came this metal frame with   an inside   mechanical   clockwork.   It was not exactly a clockwork, so it was not round, but it had something like,   what you find in the piano.   There's a small mechanical arm with a very small weight   on on on the outside edge, and and these these 3 or 4 arms, I don't recall it. You will see it on the picture.   Mhmm. These these four arms had a central axis on the left,   and they   were doing,   when you on the backside, there was a spring, which you had to,   by hand,   move up and get in tension,   and and when you then let it loose, it it began   to make a rhythm.  

The most important, the biggest arm   was the 3 quarters   waltz rhythm, which you know from music.   Mhmm. From Vienna,   Johann Strauss, waltz.   So this 3 quarters   rhythm is the most important in the universe.   Then the second,   I think it was   5 6ths,   and and the other 2 I don't remember. So,   this this this mechanical   time   producing   machine   produced   4 different rhythms,   which they, at that time, back in the forties, found out to be necessary   for for biological beings to survive.  

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It needs so these rhythms,   this time, this unique timepiece had to be inside,   and they needed to be near it of be aware of it, conscious of it, hear it, whatever,  

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be in the present They they don't have to be near it. It it simply has to be within the circle of the inner side of this outside rotating,   very fast rotating, electromagnetic   field.  

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So it's almost it's part of You have? It's it's an absolute part of the machine into it won't work   without this  

[01:01:04] Unknown:

this timing. It will work. It will work. But when you don't have it, you will not be able to survive the inner side of this machine.  

[01:01:13] Unknown:

How strange. I'm finding that very difficult to hit my brain around not knowing quite. But that is that's quite a thought.   That is quite a thought. So,  

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he gave me the Katong,   view. You have a picture with this clockwork. You have another picture where the you can only see a metal frame.  

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Mhmm.  

[01:01:33] Unknown:

Yep. When when you   zoom within this picture,   you zoom in very, very   wide,   you will find that there   are small   letters   embedded,   with with a hammer, with with metal   stamps   hammered within this frame.   And   this the the name,   the description of this item is   time impulse data   number 2,   project   Kronos.   So time impulsator is clear. It's a time impulsator.   It's a time producing machine.   Projekt Kronos means the project has something to do with time.   And the Andromeda Grade is a fascinating   machine. The Andromeda Grade   is the   let's sign   let's call it it's an aircraft carrier for flying saucers.  

So, when you think about Harneduba 1 with with 6 meters diameters, Houndeau 2 12 meters, and and the Houndeau 2, I I think it was   75 foot, something like 25 meters in diameter, so it was quite big.   And now think of a kind of,   cigar shaped   or zeppelin,   from from,   these German   airships, the Zeppelins.   Yes. Zeppelin or cigar shaped   aircraft carrier for flying saucers.   This machine   existed.   They built it,   because they wanted to have a a stationary,   yeah, aircraft carrier   for for their flying sources. That that's all. And also this Andromeda Gerd   had the ability to   to go   to have a propulsion system with anti gravity.  



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Right.  

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So   the the piece, the spare part, I had in my hands and and took a picture of it with my right hand and and while holding it with my left hand,   in front of my knees.   This was a spare part for this cigar shaped aircraft carrier   for flying saucers,   for German flying saucers.  

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Wow.   Let's take a break there.   Let's take a break, and we'll play some music that you sent in so that you can   regather your,   your, brain cells, and we can carry on with this.   You're here listening to Paul English Live. We're on WBN,   every Thursday.   I'm here with Thomas Anderson. We're talking about something   really rather amazing, something which many of you, I guess, might be generally informed of or have seen the wonderful pictures of,   but not to this detail. Anyway, we're gonna play a song now that, I think we're going to play. So let me just see. Sometimes   we are.  

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[01:11:07] Unknown:

Hi. And, welcome back to part 2. Well, nearly part 2. We, we overrun the first part there. I'm here with Thomas Anderson.   Thomas, that was a marvelous piece of music. Would you like to   would you like to tell everybody what it was?  

[01:11:22] Unknown:

Yes.   You you explained me that you wanted me to send in some music and then after or before playing the music, you wanted me to explain why I have chosen this one. That's right. This one, obviously, Russian, is a Russian folk song sang by Dmitry Voslkowski.   Dmitry Voslkowski died some years ago   on, I think it was cancer.   I like his voice very much. Me too. But the reason why we why I have chosen this one is   these days, you hardly hear   anything positive about Russia.   No. And,   we   are in a situation where we are all   no, not all, but but many of us are are thinking about, hey, will we have to war now this year perhaps perhaps next year, but but latest next year, we will see.  

I'm thinking more about this year. But anyway,   this music brings me   into   automatically into a scenery like War and Peace, this beautiful old   movie in the cinema,   snowing,   a horse with a sleigh,   it's cold outside,   it's night, the stars are glowing,   and this Russian music   brings you through the dark forest, over the frozen lake, and all this.   It was just a beautiful   Russian   picture, which which I wanted to to bring to our listeners,   just to remind us that we all from the same source and we all humans. Also, Russian people are also humans.   They have the same problems like we do. They discuss with their wife or their husband at home about crazy stupid things.  

They have their boss.   Who they perhaps don't like,   all this normal stuff.   They have to pay their bills, and they are   they do not want war like we don't want war. No. And   what what is happening there on on   on the politician   side, on the politics side, on on the political   stage   is not what the normal people   like you and me and and the listeners   want to happen.  

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No. Well, that was everything you said was everything that was going on with me whilst I was listening to it. I tried to in fact, in this case, I didn't listen to it. I don't want to listen to things because I it hits me fresh   on the first time, so it's absolutely marvelous. But,   yes.   Of course, War and Peace is not a very nice book actually. The peaceful bits are, but the war is not too good.   But, you're   you're you're right about this vast expanse of Russia,   and it's absolutely   oh, dear.   Is this what it was like in the run up to World War 2? The whole thing? It can't be. It's so artificial and of the communication plot at the moment. I mean, I would have thought most people just falling about laughing. I don't want to sort of divert us away from where we're coming from. But,   you know, you mentioning that and thinking about Russia. I mean, they did a vote here.  

We'll dip back we'll go back to the real thing, But they did a vote here. They asked who they would prefer as their leader, and most people over here would prefer Putin.   Yeah.   And it's quite genuine. Well, I don't want Biden or Macron or or Shultz. No. Really? They're wonderful people, aren't they? They said so in the paper.   You don't want them. I mean, they're just they   it's a comical situation, but it's tragic. And it's also very dangerous because of this sort of madness in the communication space.  

[01:14:57] Unknown:

Yeah. Even in the mainstream media in Germany, I read a headline, it was 2 or 3 days ago, where they had   asked people about   what do you think about your foreign minister and, and our actual German foreign minister, this fabulous   German woman called Annalena Baerbock,   this reincarnation   of  

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of what? Really,  

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I cannot say.   I'm speechless.   I don't know how to explain   the listeners   what most of the Germans think about this German foreign minister.   Whenever she opens her mouth,   our German books have to be rewritten about grammar,   about   vocabulary,   because she finds new things every day.   Last interview I heard about her that she talked about,   how did they go,   A regime of mass destruction. She talked about Iran.   A mass destruction regime.   Well, it's it's an interesting new word and and   she finds   such words How old is she? Every interview. 15?  

[01:16:12] Unknown:

How old is   she? What's going on? I think she's even in her forties. Oh, no. Oh, she's only a young person then. She's very, very young. She can't do very much.   Well well, anyway, let let let's talk about intelligent things and not about her. Let's talk about them now. Just to just to mention this device that you spoke about, which you sent me the image of, and I'm sorry to be so it seems to when I press the button here, it takes like about 2 minutes before it turns up on on Rumble.   And, of course, anybody that's listened to any of the shows knows that I've never run an image during the show other than the stock image. I suppose I have to really sort of get my finger out with that. But we've got the photograph that you sent over of the device.   It's on rumble right now. I'm looking at it. It's   it's magical.  

I'm so excited about it now that you've explained it as well because I was talking here about,   a horologist. They did   they did a documentary on this English guy, George Davis, I think it was,   and he literally built and designed watches from scratch.   Everything. The whole lot.   So it's what you've said I find so appealing. It's very romantic the idea   that a mechanical device is required   right in the hullabaloo of all this,   electromechanical course.   Yes. Yeah. It's just like a Victorian gentleman with a pocket with a waistcoat and a pocket which, well, you need me. I need you need this in here, you see, because otherwise, it's all gonna go pear shaped. Everything's gonna go very, very bad. So, gentlemen, have you got your watches? Yeah. I just I love that. It's it really is. It's it appeals to me tremendously. It's something   wonderful about that and it's a cracking photograph. So that's the device that you saw.  



[01:17:55] Unknown:

That one there with these I had it. 4 4 I had it in my own hands. I examined it for from every side. Yes.  

[01:18:03] Unknown:

Roughly how big is it in real life? How big in real life? You it'll fit into your hand, would it? I'm just trying to get a sense of the size of the thing.  

[01:18:10] Unknown:

A little bit bigger than your hand than you have the size of the frame. The inner clockwork is around the size of your hand and the thickness   perhaps, your 2 hands.  

[01:18:21] Unknown:

Yes.   It's this it's just hypnotic. I'm just now that you give me the backstory,   it's like,   and I don't know why why what are those 4 metal bars then? What are they for? I do suppose he could tell you.  

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They just make it work. There there there there are these 4 arms with Yes. Small weight   on on the front side. Yes. The small weight is is for adjusting the rhythm. The the it's it's like a metronome   for your for your piano at home. Oh, nice. Where you you you can adjust the rhythm. The same mechanic is is here. The the the more you move this small weight in direction of of the axis, the faster it gets. Yes. The more you you put it away, the the slower it gets.  

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Wow.   So no Hanabu can leave home without one of these  

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every If you if you have if if you have your anti gravity switched on, then you need this one. Yeah. You need this. You can't leave home without it. Got it. Brilliant. So on on the frame, it's it's written it's it's for the Andromeda Gerrit for the Andromeda machine, which is a kind of aircraft carrier for flying saucers. Okay. So, there is another one, another machine,   called the Vrille machine. It could work with a different technology, but what there's   another one called the Jensaert Flugmachine. I already mentioned that. It's the Beyondness flying machine. So with this machine, you could fly in into the kind of Beyondness   or beyondness.  

So what is this about?   I told you that when you have a machine like the HONOU BU 2 with a very fast rotating electromagnetic field outside, you get your own gravitational field around you   inside of this   machinery.  

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That's what John Searle said to me   when I was talking to him for on this long afternoon because   the one that they built and flew in 1970,   which was filmed apparently I haven't got come across a film by this TV program called Nationwide.   He showed me the designs of it and then building it. It was made out of wood. I said I said, look, I'm not an engineer, but if this thing moves as fast as you say, wouldn't this just disintegrate completely? He said, oh, no. He said, it's got its entire own gravitational field just like the Earth. He said everything inside   this, like, electromagnetic   envelope, he said, it's completely at peace. It doesn't feel any strains or stresses. There's nothing. Yeah. It's just like us sitting here around this table.  



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I said Yeah. Oh. And now now let let let let me make a knot into your brain. Yes, please. Please do. Think think of the the so called Jensaitz Fluke machine, the JFM,   the Beyondness flying machine.   Think of   Haunabutu   with this   inside electromagnetic field, and then think of a Haunabutu inside of a Haunabutu.  

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Okay. So a   levitating   craft inside of another levitating craft. Yeah. Think of the effect.  

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You you have you are sitting inside of this electromagnetic   field of your own, which is completely disconnected from the outside. You eliminate   one dimension called time.   Right. And you,   and you eliminate   the gravitational   around you.   Now,   when you build another Honeywell 3   machine inside of this inside cockpit,  

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Yeah.  

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And you you switch it on, you get rid you get rid of another dimension, but you already got rid of the time.   So which dimension do you want to kill now?   I don't know.  

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How many others?  

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You get out of this dimension.   This this is  

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a cross dimension flying machine, which they build at that time. So in in terms of you're using the word dimension, I suppose I'm thinking, you know, up, down, backwards and forwards, left and right, that kind of thing. The 3 dimensions that we know about. But the way you're using the word,   is it like a parallel universe type? Would that be the thing? Right. So you're moving out of this realm as it were. We have this block and so you're gonna go to another one, which Exactly. Okay. With your pocket watch, of course.  

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With your watch.  

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Mechanical part of it. With your mechanical watch. Yes.   I don't know if they they they have a kind of of more sophisticated solution these days. No I don't want them to. I don't want them to have that. I want it to be like that. I can relate to that. That's the bit where after that it all gets your brain starts to go   squishy. So   okay, so they are the more of these things is it's a bit like, what is it? Those Russian dolls where there's one inside another, you know. Is it that kind of thing? Exactly. Exactly. Yeah. Okay. I don't know if if they did another step. So inside of 1, inside, inside of, etcetera.  

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I I don't know if if they're built and how many they no idea.  

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Right.   Wow.   Okay.   So   you've got your watch. You're inside your first one. The second and you're slowly stripping dimensions away. So you get rid of time, then you can get out of this realm and go to another one.   Yeah. Okay.   Right. That hurts the head. I don't know whether my head's actually understanding this at all. I'm just listening to the sentences thinking it's gonna settle in.   So we need a company, don't we, to book a trip on this thing so that we can go to these other dimensions and just hope that they're really nice   and not horrible. Well,  

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yeah. What I learned in the last years,   from from all these   100 of hours of video,   of,   Cosmic Disclosure, and and and other programs   of of the so called whistleblowers   of   of informants   coming out from the 3 letter agencies and coming from secret space programs, etcetera.   They are talking about that   I just wrote an article a few days ago.   When you want to have an overall picture about what situation we are living in,   it's not about this this war situation on Earth. Let's let's go into a kind of meta   level above all this mess we have on Earth now.   Let's go   let's   move our   site   outer space.  

When you look at at the universe,   the main thing you have to know is   everything is energy,   and the next thing you have to know is   everything is frequency.  

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Mhmm.  

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And the next thing you have to know is wherever   there is whatever kind of energy, if it's   wind,   electromagnetic,   if it's   warmth or cold, heat, I don't know. Whatever kind of energy   whatever kind of energy, there will be a living being feeding from it.   Right. Yes. No matter what kind of energy, if it's sound   or magnet,   electric current, whatever, there will be a living being feeding from it.   And what I   heard from from all the people coming   from those secret space programs who claim to have been visiting other planets and and being off planets in our, in our, in our Solar System, being off,   our Solar System into the Universe, and, and, and other Galaxies,   which of course is fascinating, but, but hard to prove,   but, but anyway,   what what they have to tell is,   that we here on Earth seem to have a very special   situation.  

When we are looking into the Universe on other planets,   they normally have   a variety of, let's say, 100 or 1000 of different living beings there. So, we have one kind of of human looking,   people there who are living there but but one race   right   5, 6, 10, whatever here,   like on Earth, they have won   since 1000000 of years,   and they have planned, like, well, let's say,   10,000,   but not more. We have 1,000,000   Mhmm. On Earth.   Yes. So the the variety here on Earth is exceptionally   big, huge, unbelievably  

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wide. Right.  

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This makes Earth special.   And when you look at Earth,   you look at, for example,   chickens,   dolphins,   dogs,   spiders,   bugs,   pigments,   ants.  

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Monkeys.   Monkeys. Yeah. What what whatever.  

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Yeah. Whatever animal you will find here on Earth, you can be sure that somewhere in the universe, there is a planet with this species   as the main intelligent living dominating   being.  

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So there really is a planet of the spiders?   Yes.   There will be a planet of the serpents?   Yes. And a planet of the apes, I guess. Yes. Going back to the monkeys. Okay.  

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Yeah.   So, a fun fact to know, what one of them reported is,   there is a planet with dog beings.   And surprisingly,   these dog beings have small humans as their house animals.  

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That sounds like   I like that. That appeals to me. That sounds like Gary Larson's Far Side. Did you I don't know if you ever saw these single panel cartoons.   Cartoon is from America called The Far Side by Gary Larson. Very big in the sort of late seventies eighties. He can get complex. Very funny. All the really, really funny. There's only really one gag in it, which is that the humans are thick as 2 short planks,   and all the animals are just sort of looking at them all the time like it is. Yet these dogs having cigarettes   talking about how stupid their owners are. It's a great gag, and it works. And you reminded me of that. But also something else,   in Egyptian mythology, let's call it that. It's probably a lot more than that. But they have,   who is the dog god? I've forgotten.  

They have a lot of dogs. The the chorus and things like this.  

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There's a lot of animals. This bird. Yeah. The birds are there, the serpents   Yes. The dogs,  

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cats. Is that a memory of where they came from and that they were aware of all these planets with these different beings where I suppose on each planet, each one's a god effectively, as though the dominant life form?  

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It very much could be. Yep.  

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Planet of the dogs. Woof.   Holy moly.   It's it's a very rare I've never heard this before ever. I've heard a lot of things, you know, Riddler, but I've never heard that idea before and it's very arresting. It sort of sparks things off in your head. It's making me think   that I don't know anything, but then I think there are quite a bit.  

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This this all this all is is,   there's a network of relations between facts   and important things to know.   This makes Earth special,   and this is because   many, many races of the universe   are extremely interested in Earth and what is becoming of Earth   and of people, because   they know   that we have this grand variety here, which is so, showing us everything,   which is possible.   And, and   when, when you sit outside, for example, in, in, in, in summer, you, you sit on, on, in, in your garden, you take the grill, and, and, and you, you're doing your barbecue,   your nice steak,   you simply kill it.  

It's   disturbing.   You don't wanna fly on your steak. Kill it No. Finish. You don't you don't think about this. You do what you do because you can do what you can do, and and what is your nature?   Yes. Okay. But but   be sure   there are other beings   that do the same with us.  

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Yes.  

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There there are some beings that regard us as flies,   disturbing flies.  

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Well, I tend to regard certain human beings like that as well. I must admit.   It's not a new thought to me either, so you can sort of see it possibly from their point of view. But yeah.   It's a very interesting idea. I mean, I don't know whether I'm fully going with it. I just know I'm slightly off beam as I'm listening to you talk about it.   Maybe it's the sort of thing you would think about as a as a child. I mean, I try you know, I don't know whether this is me becoming feeble minded. I mean, we're all gonna do that, I suppose, at some point. But I try to kill nothing at all.   You know, even slugs. And I don't like slugs, but you come across them in places where they shouldn't be, you know, like on the glass window pane or something like that. I don't kill   them. I mean, I'm I'm looking at it thinking  

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What what do you do with spiders?  

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Oh, I capture spiders with a glass. I love it. My   other people in my family are a little bit squeamish, but I love spiders. They're great. You know, they've got a job to do. They keep the flies down. I mean, then you don't have to knock knock them off your stake. If the spiders are out there doing their jobs, there won't be any flies on your stake. I mean, that's a bit of a push, isn't it? But,   no. I I get a glass, a tumbler,   put it over them on the wall, and then slide a sheet of paper underneath it.   Oh, it's all coming out now. Feeble minded man catches spiders.  

I just like I I do. I mean, I think when I was a kid, I would naturally just kill them, you know. But then I thought, why am I killing that thing? I, you know, it didn't it's not really doing me any harm. I suppose if I was in Australia, I might think slightly different, you know, because you get bitten by some of their nasty stuff down there, then you're dead in 20 minutes which is, you know, a bit of a blow. So you won't be you won't be killing or doing anything else much.   But, I mean, what you're saying about the, you know, the variety down here, I suppose we know nothing else because we just look at it and to some degree we're a bit exhausted by it, maybe. But I I think I may have mentioned to you,   and in a   in a parallel vein, but close to this,   there is a contact that I have in the north of England who,   I've had a lot of I haven't spoken to him for several years now,   but he was trained in   to be to be an assassin, simply,   in the fifties. And I've mentioned this guy on and off in certain broadcasts.  

And with regards to the origins of all the different races down here in fact, I was talking to somebody about this earlier today.   He   what his   teaching   told him,   as he was trained. He was trained by people who said, you need to know how life got here. We're going to show   you the the actual, you know, the origin story of why life is here.   And the information he provided is a thing to chew over,   was that the races all came from different parts of out there. They'd all come from different parts of out there. And I remember reading an interview with a couple of,   Chinese sisters who are identical twins. There'd be about 15 at the time. And they would point to a certain region of the sky and say, this is where our people come from. We come from there, a place out there. And then you have that tribe in Africa, don't you? The Dogon tribe or the Dogon tribe, d o g o n, I think it is. Yeah. Yeah. And they they talked, have they not, within their myth of where they come from, this planet with 2 suns or   2 planets going around a sun. And finally, they got to look at it, I believe, and said But I'm serious.  

That's it. Serious. That's where we're thinking from. From serious. Yeah. It's all in their mythology. So, I mean, I just think I come from Yorkshire. That's about as far as it goes. Maybe I'm a bit of a dingbat really,   you know. So there's no tail of that. Star system. Yeah. I don't know. It's just got it's got a big flower on it. Although, that's what we do. There's nothing going there's a lot of chip shops and stuff and happy people, miserable people too. I suppose it's just like everywhere else. But Yeah. So we don't have anything exotic like that but these people got this exotic story. Maybe we do. I have no idea where we, you you know, if you were to point out there. But,   it's funny. Space is just a bit too big, isn't it really? You look at it and you go, well, let me tell you something  

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quite similar.   My my publisher   who published   my my first,   two books,   once told me it was a story where he was visiting, I think it was Mexico,   and he visited a restaurant,   on a hill side and and at the and met a very nice guy who whom he was talking to,   and   he recognized that that this man was somehow different.   And   he asked them, where do we come from? And he told me, you know, from the city. No. I I mean, where do you come from?   And this guy smiled at him and pointed at a certain,   area in in in the sky   from  

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there. How come we don't know? I can't point to anywhere. Everybody else is, oh, I come from over there. Really?   This is, you know, everybody seems to be it's a strange thing at times being, supposedly a human being just to use that the description, you know,   because we we   we run around doing things and we don't really know what we are. I mean, maybe there are a few people down here that really do know that. Like, oh, I know what what you are. I know your full backstory, you know, the whole thing.   And I'm wondering,   you know, I'd like to know, although I'm still gonna get up and make the tea and do the dishes and stuff. That's as as far as I'm aware, that's what's coming up in my immediate future, a bit like my immediate past. Those things are going on.  

But,   it's   it's just, it's a very interesting conversation with you because I've spent, you know,   maybe about 10 or 15 years ago, I had the sorts of books you were mentioning in the first part, you know, with all these illustrations   of hidden   secret   National Socialist technology, that kind of stuff. It's extremely compelling. 1 of my both of my sons, when they see any images like that, they just said this is so cool.   And I I hope they all are down in the South Pole getting ready to sort things out. Really? I mean, I don't know if it's a boy thing.   Maybe it's a sad thing, but there is something   extremely,   is is romantic the right word? I don't know. It's beguiling.  

At a very deep level, this whole thing. What is it about flying around? I mean, did we used to be able to do it 1000 of years ago? It's like a deep   blood   bone connection. Possibly. You know, they talked about those what were those devices in India? I forgot the name of them now. But there's a lot of   descriptions of flying devices in India from a long long time ago.   And I can't remember the name of them, but they talk about these wars of the gods. But, you know, if you're flying around and everybody's on the ground, they're probably gonna look at me and go, that's probably a god that. Well, actually, no. I've got my pocket watch to make sure that we don't run out of time and all this kind of stuff, you know. And,   what's that what's that thing that Clark said, Arthur c Clark? Not that I'm a fan of his fiction or anything or much about it, but he said something like,   any   technology sufficiently advanced enough   over another people is going to appear like magic or like gods. Something to that. I'm paraphrasing. I'm mullering it badly, but you can see that. There's a gap in my knowledge. Yes.  

There's a big gap. You go, I can't make that jump.   I can't make that jump. And yet the the sorts of   bright sparks that get involved with creating technology and technological jumps, and this period as well, I mean we we talk about   Tesla.   We talk about all of these things from sort of like the mid 1800   to the early 1900.   I suspect there were some   tremendous things   built, designed, and understood very rapidly. It was like an explosive phase. It appears to be that way from us looking back in this mechanical realm, in in the realm of engines,   understanding and mastering electricity or at least understanding it more fully   that that we've we're not being privy to. I mean,   because this sort of technology unsettles the it upsets the apple cart of control, doesn't it? This is how   how I I mean, if we all had one of these in our back garden,   and I've often thought about this. Well, not often, but I've thought about it a few times. If you had one   and somebody wants to lord it over you and tell you that you're gonna do this, that, and the other, you just get into that thing and bugger off.  

And that's it. You've gone. Not that I would necessarily want to go anywhere. I quite like it on planet Earth because,   well, it's the it's the only home I know, I suppose.   Well, it is the only home I know, like most of us. But,   if you've got that ability to move and do those things in that way, you are gonna be a little bit more difficult to control. And you can see how that control mentality, the one that's causing so much problem in the world right now,   would be very interested on making sure that these sorts technological advancements never fall into the hands of people like you,   Thomas, or me, or most of the listeners here. I can see it from their point of view, even though I'm not too happy about it.  



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Yeah. There there are so many   other   extremely interesting details about   different things to know.   It's not only about this this so called high-tech technology like like anti gravity or or time traveling machines.   It's it's also, for example, when when you,   when you go to the Mount Zion, the the under under Untersberg   in in the South of Germany.   Mhmm. This is where where   the Hitler had his,   summer residence just nearby. It's just just opposite of of of the village there from one mountain to the other side. Untersberg is just opposite of of his   famous,   Berghof, I think it was the name.  

The Untersberg is,   rumored to have time effects,   in in that area.   So there was one Austrian guy who examined this, together with his daughter.   He went   just just walking through the forest there. He went through the forest, and at some point, his daughter remembered   he was he was gone. He he simply disappeared   in or out of nowhere. He he was simply gone. He was gone for 4 days,   and when he came back, he had the feeling that he was only 10 minutes away from her and and coming back.   For for him, it was nothing special. He was completely shocked when when when hearing about you were you were gone for 4 days.   Wow.  

And at the same   mountain at the Ontelsberg, there's there's the there is a very small chapel.   Unfortunately, it was closed when when I visited the,   the site there. Mhmm. And it is rumored to have   a small room with a door, and when you go through the store,   the next step you make is that that you are standing in the midst of the cathedral of Innsbruck.  

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100 of times to go. That sounds fun. I'd like to go to the cathedral in the pub. And this the the and these kind of effects like,  

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time traveling or or or passing great distance with one step only.   There there are there are hundreds of them, and astonishingly, or perhaps not surprisingly,   many of those effects you find in churches or in cathedrals,   where you have some secret   backdoor rooms where where you have those kind of doors   and, Yes.   Entrance to to to underground tunnels.   You hear a lot of tunnels these days about deep underground military bases, these so called dumps.   Yep.  

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A lot of Well, many of the churches over here are built on old   energy points with ley lines. I also remember hearing something about the use of oak for the doors on churches. The oak has certain   properties to contain energy that it's almost like harvesting or putting into the building or something like that. The oak, there's a reason why the doors are oak. Although, you know, that could be a bit thin. It's just that there are a lot of oak trees around. I mean, that's been sort of flippant about it. But it you know, people can come with all sorts of stories for things. And sometimes it can be very difficult, you know, to ascertain   exactly whether it's just an old wives tale or whether it really does, you know, have   some traction. I mean, with regards to   the Egyptian thing, you know, thanks shout out for I think it was Aether who put in that it was Anubis was the the dog god. That's who we were looking for. It was. Thank you. It was Anubis. Absolutely right.  

The the chap that was telling me about the different races coming here at different times from different parts of out there,   you know, we discussed I remember talking to him about the pyramids,   other ones in Egypt. I mean, that it may apply to it even more, but most people probably know that when they were originally built, they had a thing on the top called a Benben stone, which   was, I believe, clad in gold, or maybe it was gold. I don't know.   And,   if you   are able to go in it I did manage to get in there actually in 1986.   I'd love to go back. It's probably not going to be possible, is it? This lifetime around. It's very overwhelming to just look at it.  

This huge   huge thing. It's just enormous. Yeah. Okay. I'm impressed.   But when you go upstairs into the king's chamber, which is probably even more impressive than the outside because you've got these massive blocks of granite with not   a crack in them anywhere.   And there's that sarcophagus,   which is not,   I mean, what he was saying to me although I think I'd read this elsewhere.   If you were to lie in it and probably most of us, anybody who's above 6 foot 4 probably would have difficulty with it,   the   apex of the benben stone would have been directly above your pineal gland.   And so the,   what he was saying is that it's acute these were communications devices.  

But the earth having been hit by things, the way that you were were talking about in one of the previous shows and not being quite in the place that it was when they were built, these things are effectively broken. They're pointing to the wrong part of the sky, possibly.   These also, you know, these are elaborate stories. I accept that. And, it's difficult for me to even prove these things. But  

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I I visited the the the pyramid in in Egypt and Cairo. Mhmm. I went inside, I went into this chamber,   and I'm,   as I'm doing a lot of music,   I I simply,   made some some   tones   with with my voice. Just,   going from very low tones to very high tones. And what I experienced is that   never ever ever experienced this before, This room was resonant on every tone.   Right. So, normally, when when you go, for example, when you go to in in in your bathroom,   and and you you are humming some some some tones, just going from from lower tones to high tones, you will find 1 or 2 tones which are resonant   to your tiles in in your bathroom.  

Yes. And and and and those tones   are then then they sound very big,   and and when you go higher or deeper, the sound gets gets small in volume again. There's no resonance anymore,   But in this King's Chamber, every tone was resonant.   I don't know I don't I have no idea why,  

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this is so. Absolutely no idea. Well, the great art of architecture   probably containing so many things that we're not fully aware of. Although, I suspect some people are, but I'm certainly not. But you always have this instinct about architecture. And when I bang on about it here, I haven't done actually for a few weeks because, you know, topics come and go. But this one will always keep coming back. We talk about hideous buildings and they're hideous in every regard and beautiful buildings and what they do. I mean, it's just I want, you know, I want to be around beautiful buildings and sometimes inadvertently I find myself by 1. But, you know, it's more by accident than anything else. It's not by design. And the the urban landscape being a complete,   basically, sort of souped up supermarket   toilet bowl, really, it's ridiculous. But,   yeah, tones.  

There's also this thing about bells. Obviously, we've talked about the bell. You were talking about there with the liquid mercury and which is absolutely I mean, I was I had some general knowledge about that but not to the detail that you were providing there.  

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But, There is another story about Mercury in in detail.   So so I already talked about these German submarines, which were brought up by US Navy,   which were heading to Japan all loaded with with tons of liquid mercury.   And they were still up to the date now,   there are 235   German submarines missing,   missing edge. Nobody knows where they are until 235?  

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From 1945.  

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Yes. And nobody knows it. And the the phase directly after the so called end of World War 2   was a 2 year or long lasting   submarine hunt   with   3,000   airplanes worldwide.   This is completely hidden in history, and then nobody talks about it. But I have the proof in in my books with with all the documents and and the sources, etcetera. So they were they were hunting German submarines   worldwide   on   everywhere, and they they brought up several of them   in front of Japan,   in   Argentina,   in in several different places. Of course, Antarctica and in in front of Antarctica, but but still   235   are officially missing.  



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That's quite a few symbols. That's quite a few. Regarding  

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and regarding the mercury, I heard a story,   that   in Africa, in in Congo,   there there is   a small,   how do you call it,   an an an like like, an Indian chief chief of of a small group of people there sitting on   several 100 liters of liquid   red Mercury.   Red Mercury is already for for is alone. It's a very strange thing because normally mercury is silver,   and this is red Mercury, and red Mercury again is extremely rare, and extremely expensive. So, you're talking about 1,000,000 per gram or something.   The the thing I heard this is that   some   Royal families, especially I heard about the Meraki,   the the royal family from Morocco,   using this red Mercury for time traveling.  



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Those are bloody Moroccans.  

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I I it was bloody Moroccan. I heard that that,   they are they are meeting every year.   They they go to a remote place and have their kind of, let's say, just vacation, they call it, and and when they come back, they are richer than before,   And the rumor is that they're usually Actually, we never get an invite.  

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We never get an invite, do we? I'll leave those guys. You know, that's outrageous.   Wow. Where does, you know, mercury   my only experience with mercury is in chemistry at school and it being very very you had to be very careful with it.   Is it and does it naturally occur, Mercury?  

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Where does it come from? Yes. You know? Yes. Yes. It it does. But yeah. I I I never saw it in in in Bright Nature but but it does. Yes. Right.  

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Well, and, you know, you're just thinking about whoever thought about the idea of spinning mercury around at high speed in a bell and all that kind it's it's just the thinking behind moving into this space. But maybe in these research centers, one sort of lump of knowledge sparks off another chain of thoughts down another alley and it's such a specialized field,  

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you know. The reason why they use mercury is simply that that you can,   send electric current through mercury because mercury is a metal. And because it's liquid, you can fill it into some some hollow chamber or or cylinder.   So you have,   because they wanted to have these counterwise rotating electromagnetic   contacts and electromagnetic   field, they they were looking for 2 metals,   which they could rotate very fast   counterwise to each other. Right. And and the the attempt they they   they simply tried it with their experiment was you take a metal cylinder, and, and fill the cylinder with liquid mercury, then put electric current into the cylinder,   so that the mercury is flowing let's say on the, in the right direction, and, and, and the cylinder you, you put, with a motor or, or also with electric cracker, I don't know, perhaps with magnets,   you let that that, let those cylinders then rotate counterwise.  

This is the only reason why why they chose Mercury, And I also perhaps also very interesting,   in the the the starting days of this experiment,   they had huge problems,   because,   this machine consumed   an   unbelievable   big amount of electric energy.   So so all the cities   was was black because the lights went out, because this experiment went on,   and   they they couldn't insulate the 2 materials from each other,   very good at the beginning, and that was the reason why this Mercury, then under these high currents,   converted to gold.   This it's it's   a nice fact to know, but   Yes. They they had huge problems with that and and converted tons of mercury into gold, but they didn't Which they didn't want. We want the mercury. We don't want the gold already. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.  



[01:52:28] Unknown:

It's a it's a fascinating fit. It's very enchanting as a field because maybe part of the enchantment is that we can't actually prove all of it and yet instinctively it feels right. I have no   doubt really about these advanced technologies actually existing. These stories wouldn't exist in this particular form, I think. And as I've said, you know, from the contact I had over here, he saw things   he saw a tank, you know, a military tank,   this is   1961 or 2, just disappear.   They had the technology to sort of make things   disappear. Now whether that's obscuring your vision or literally   moving it to a different realm temporarily and bringing it back, I don't know. But he saw some   amazing things which   most people, I guess, will never ever see. So the idea that there is like this alternative technological society,   you know, the breakaway   civilization that's been going on under everybody's noses   doesn't seem so far fetched.  

You know, we're not invited to the party. We didn't get born into the right families to be   made aware of this nor I'm I'm certainly not a rocket scientist or anywhere near that level of intellectual capacity to to be part of that. And so I guess those are the sorts of people that had to be a part of it and and there we go. And maybe, you know, this has got a role in what's taking place right now on the ground with   the what appears to us rightfully, because you can only go on what you do know, the   the malign insane behavior of those people who would   pretend to be our leaders, you know, because there   there's nothing decent about what they're up to and yet you must I often feel well they have another instruction set or there is another master in the corner that they must be beholden to, to behave in such a ludicrous way   that's just simply   not much fun, very nasty.  

And no one can really work out what's the point of doing all this   Because it's,   you know, the technological advances over the last century, not that I think technology is the answer to all things,   but they've certainly relieved so many problems and now they're having to manufacture them. It's the climate. It's this. It's chickens.   Watch out, you know. It's paper. You could die from paper because it's just non stop fear mongering with all this   preposterous sort of arrangement that we find in the world. And, you know, currently they've decided,   as you were mentioning half an hour ago or so, that Russia is the one that's gotta get it. Why? I mean, I don't got nothing against the Russians   at all. You know, they're picking on the Ukraine. I doubt if that's the real story.  

Don't you? It can't be the real story. It's nonsense.  

[01:55:02] Unknown:

Of course, it's not. Yeah.   Yeah.  

[01:55:05] Unknown:

Wonderful.   Thomas, it's been wonderful. We're towards the end. We're down to the last few minutes. I think we'll wrap it up, in proper time. You had another song here. Would you like me to play it? We could sort of even play out with this. Yeah. It would be nice. It's another it's a second Russian song, which which may put you again into some kind of Christmas  

[01:55:23] Unknown:

snowy landscape with stars glowing. British. Just just just play  

[01:55:29] Unknown:

it. I'll I'll I'll play, and then we'll have a we'll have a minute or so to wrap up. Here we go. It's the same singer, isn't it? Dimitri?  

[01:55:35] Unknown:

Yes. Yeah. Dimitri. Here he goes. He's a Bostovski.  

[01:55:38] Unknown:

Fantastic. Here we go.   Well, Thomas, it's been fantastic having you here, tonight. It's been a real change of pace, this show, actually. Not done anything really quite like this and wonderful going into depth. You will come back again, I'm sure, won't you?  

[01:58:02] Unknown:

Thank you for having me. Of course. Would be nice. Wonderful.  

[01:58:06] Unknown:

Great stuff. Thanks everybody in, Rumble, for being here tonight. Thanks for your comments.   We're gonna end right on the right on the money here. We'll be back again next week,   same time, 8 PM in the UK, 3 PM US Eastern here on wbn 324 on Rumble and elsewhere. Working on some other channels to get up and running. I'll inform as we get them in place   and, look forward to seeing you here same time next week. Be safe. Have a good week. I look forward to seeing you all next Thursday.   Bye for now everyone.