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This week, we delve into the intricacies of legal status and voluntary servitude with our special guest, Roger Sayles. The show kicks off with a brief overview of the week's events and a recommendation for the documentary 'The Watchmaker's Apprentice.' Roger joins us to discuss a topic he's passionate about: the hidden mechanisms that bind us into a system of voluntary servitude. He explains the historical and legal frameworks that have led to our current predicament and offers insights into how one can change their legal status to regain personal sovereignty. We also touch upon the differences between legal and lawful, the significance of birth certificates, and the concept of voluntary servitude. The conversation is rich with historical references and practical advice, making it a must-listen for anyone interested in reclaiming their personal freedom. The episode wraps up with a lively post-show discussion on Rumble, where listeners call in to share their thoughts and experiences.

[00:00:00] Unknown:

Well, hello. Good morning, good afternoon, good evening, good,   middle of the night, all that kind of stuff. It is, oh, listen to that. It's me having a lovely start.   That's nice, isn't it?   Be quiet there, will you?   It's,   Thursday, isn't it?   Having a frazzler of a week, of course. Thursday 22nd February,   2020   4, and this is, of course, the weekly show with me, having a wonderful start actually with all sorts of things.   And,   here we go. Paul English live. How about that?   Hello, and welcome to the show. I always to start with a little flourish. So we were a little bit delayed today because,   one of the relays, nothing to do with my show here directly,   decided to fall over, but it's all part of life's rich tapestry. Welcome back.  

As I said, I've had a pretty busy week this week, a few things to talk about, and we have a guest lined up for today very soon, briefly. He's already in the studio, but I'll be just keeping him on a leash for a few minutes.   We're gonna be joined by Roger Sales, who, I talk to quite regularly. I've known Roger for quite some time. We're gonna carry on a conversation that I've been sort of a part of for many years.   Yeah. Hi, everybody. Welcome back. Hope you've had a good week between,   well, last Thursday and this Thursday. Not that the week starts on a Thursday, although mine often feels as though it ends on 1.   Anyway, good to be back. You listen to Paul English Live. We're here every Thursday, 3 PM to 5 PM US Eastern,   8 PM to 10 PM   UK, and sometimes there's an after show that tends to run on on Rumble.  

But we're here on wbn324.zil   every week, and, we're also going out on several other stations. I'll announce those later on in the show, But it's good to be on WBN 324 as you well know. And, if you are interested in being part of a chat setup,   this is a radio show that makes makes use of a video platform,   and we're currently using Rumble because, because we can. So we're gonna carry on using it. And if you wanna head over to Rumble, you'll find the link to that on paulenglishlive.com.   You can be part of the chat group, and, there's already people typing messages and things like that. Isn't that great? And there's a goodly sized audience on there. So, welcome.   Welcome to the show. As I said, I've got Roger Sales on with me very briefly. He's probably chomping at the bit right now and listening to this game. What Why can't I talk? But I just wanted to say a couple of things   really about,   well, just about my week. In fact, if you see the image if you've seen the image for this week's show, you may have. I mean, if you go to Rumble, you will see it.  

It's a little boy hanging on to the end of a clock.   I think it's sort of a it's an AI image. That's where we tend to dig these things up.   And he's hanging onto the end of a clock. It seems to be inspired by or maybe part of a film, I think, made by Martin Scorsese, the title of which currently escapes me right now.   But, time has been, running around in my head quite a lot this week from all sorts of, angles.   1st, I just want to talk to you well, I want to mention a film.   We're not gonna cover it in today's show, but,   there's a documentary out there. In fact, you can find it on YouTube.  

And if I've got the presence of mind sometime during the show, I'll put the URL for it inside the Rumble chat,   called The Watchmaker's   Apprentice.   And,   if you want to be transported into a world of the finest craftsmanship   I think you're ever going to see,   I can't recommend it highly enough. It's about an hour long.   It's called the what, The Watchmaker's Apprentice.   It's about a gentleman called George whose surname escapes me, which of course is absolutely appalling. I should have remembered all this prior to the show.   But, he shuffled off this mortal coil a few years ago. But it's about his design of clocks or of watches   and of pocket watches.  

And he builds   every single part of the watch himself.   From what it said in the documentary,   he's the first person to ever do that. I mean literally every single part. So if you want to see   a craftsman at work and what he can produce,   you're gonna absolutely love it. I've watched it twice, which is ridiculous that I can't remember his surname, but, you know, it's been a busy week. Good grief. And,   a guy called Roger Smith,   who is from Bolton,   a lot younger than him, who in due course becomes his apprentice   and designs and build watches from scratch.  

And so if you want to be reconnected   with the world of astonishing craftsmanship, I mean, really, it's off the charts. There's a wonderful little quote in it there from   a chap that knew him. He sat in his Bentley or something like that. It's that kind of set, but it's it's actually set on the Isle of, the Isle of, Isle of Man, where they have the TT races,   which is where he did all most of his watchmaking during the latter years of his life. And he said, if you look into one of George's watches, he said,   you're actually really looking into George's soul.  

So if you're into that kind of thing, that's a little recommendation   for you. The Watchmakers Apprentice is about an hour. It is kicking around on YouTube. I have got the URL somewhere. I will paste it in when we play some music or something like that.   But on this, little thing about time, you've probably all noticed well, I don't know. I don't know how old you are. I mean, if you're very young, you probably haven't used too much time up yet, but,   boy, does it speed up sort of exponentially the more of it you've had.   And,   I had a very inch I think I touched on it or mentioned it briefly last week.  

I had to go up well, I didn't have to, and you don't have to do anything, but I chose to go up,   to the funeral of a very old friend of mine, somebody that I hadn't seen for maybe 30 years.   But he was a very old and good friend of mine because we grew up together from about the age of 5,   really, through about 24, 25 years of age when I when I left that part of the world, when I left Yorkshire and moved down to London. But we still sort of kept in touch, and my brother knew him and lots of the crowd that I was with knew him.   Anyway,   I decided to go up to this funeral. And,   it was a magical event, which sounds, of course, a little bit,   strange, what with it, you know, being the passing of someone that you knew.  

But   the other people that were part of the crew, the clan as it were at the time,   some of them were there.   And none of them none of us really expected to see anybody else there. And it was,   mind blowing and heartwarming, and I I don't know quite how to describe it. But I've been on a high ever since it happened on Monday. That's why I've been distracted. I've been sort of mentally and emotionally exhausted. Yes, me. I have,   wanted to go for long walks along the seashore and stroke my chin and ponder things and stuff like that. But in terms of I mean, some of these people have not seen for 40 years,   and I did point out to everybody, I said, well, we're not gonna be able to do this again, are we? This is a one time event. We're not gonna be able to meet in another 40 years. I mean, if I do make a 104,   you don't know, do you? You really don't know. So,   I don't know if you've ever had anything like that happen to you or come into your life or   give you cause to really think about the time, but it was as if the 40 years just disappeared.  

I know you hear people say that. You go, no. That's not right. But when it happens to you, it's really quite a thing. And it and it was just as if we were gonna go and do all these things that we did back in the early eighties.   Very, very strange, but marvellous and wonderful, and everybody was incredibly joyous to see everybody else. It was just good to turn up, stand around, shake each other's hands,   you know, a few old flames there. There was all that rippling around gossip and stuff like this. If you've ever been in a scene like that, you'll know what I'm talking about. Anyway, I just thought I would mention that, you know, that's what's been going on with my week. Now,   on to tonight's guest   who's here,   and I'm just gonna unmute him now whilst I introduce him. The gentleman who's with me tonight is Roger Sales, and some of you may be aware of Roger and his work. I I don't know how many years I've known Roger, but it's quite a few.  

And,   he has a particular line of inquiry, a particular   focus with regards to what's going on in the world and how to redress it, specifically with status and other aspects. Of course, it's mainly focused on an American audience, but   it translates and it roots,   back here to the UK in so many ways. So, Roger,   welcome to the show. How are you this good afternoon?  

[00:10:13] Unknown:

Thank you, Paul. Thanks for asking me. I'm doing great this afternoon, and, I'm really looking forward to being with you and your audience today.  

[00:10:21] Unknown:

Yeah. Well, I, I know you'd asked me to get you on a few times, and and it was just, you know, a one show a week. I'm not I mean, you do a show   every single day, don't you? You're a you're a 666  

[00:10:32] Unknown:

6 days a week, 6 days a week for a long time.  

[00:10:36] Unknown:

Yeah.   How many how many years have you been doing that? Not not the 6 days a week, but  

[00:10:42] Unknown:

I've been on the air with this message about 13 years in this March,   actually next month. And,   initially, it wasn't on a regular daily basis. It was on a weekly basis, and it morphed into   a daily basis. And now we try and get on as much as we can. I was doing 7 days a week there for about a year or a little more, and that was a little too much, really. Yep.  

[00:11:06] Unknown:

I I was listen I was tuning in to your show this afternoon. I think, of course, we've had this conversation a little bit earlier. But, as I went off for   my, meaningful walk by the seashore today, I just happened to get one in, I was tuning in and listening to you. And you were providing   I've heard you say it before, but I think for this audience, many of which will have not heard you before, certainly the WBN audience will will not have heard you, I don't think.   It might be useful. I know you've done it once today already, but, you know, practice makes perfect, and you can't repeat these things often enough, is to just give us a little bit of background about how you've come into this field of inquiry, let's call it that for now, and why you are still in it. What's what's this all about?  

[00:11:48] Unknown:

It's very interesting. You know, when I was a child of the sixties, the British music invasion and Vietnam and the assassinations   of Kennedy and Martin Luther King and all that was my formative years.   And I just always knew something was wrong. You know, I mean, I didn't know what it was, obviously. I couldn't put my finger on it being in teens, early twenties,   but I just knew something was wrong. And so I went through the sixties and the seventies, and I got married. And and as I got into the seventies, my wife one of my wife's brothers,   was him and I were very close. And he used to tell me he'd say, you know, there's this group of people that meet once a year called the Bilderbergers, and they have press there. And they won't let anything out, and it's all secret and all this stuff. Well, obviously, you'd been to some John Birch meetings. You know? Mhmm. And, so all of a sudden, I had a thread. Okay? Yep. And and that went on a couple of years. And, then I was doing some networking. I was teaching. My background is the music industry. I spent 20 years in and around big time music out of Atlanta. I used to work for labels,   and then I taught for 10 years at the Art Institute of Atlanta. I taught broadcasting   and record promotion, which is what I did. And What years what years were that then? These 10 years. What what That was in the seventies. That was in my seventies. I was active in the seventies. And then,   I I,   when the when the economy went south, if you remember after Jimmy Carter   and Reagan got elected,   and he came in, there was pretty good inflation at that period of time Mhmm. About like we're seeing now.  

And, Reagan got elected, and he brought Paul Volcker in as the head of the Federal Reserve. And he raised interest rates to 22%   to quell that inflation.   And that killed the record business. Okay?   And so after that, I I was looking for a career, and I ended up doing other things. But I was teaching those two subjects at the Art Institute of Atlanta for about 10 years. Right. So it was in that period of time I had a lot of time on my hands,   because I didn't have a full load of teaching. And,   I was doing networking, and somebody I was working with in one of those networking companies came up to me and said income tax is illegal.   I went, oh, yeah. Sure. Right. They go, no. No. We got this tape. And I said, well, yeah, it spurned this curiosity that had been with me. I said, well, I'm open minded. I'll I'll watch it. You know? And it took them about 2 weeks to get that tape down to me. And when I watch I can tell you the date. K? It's July 16,   1992.  

That's my Patriot birthday.   And I got to watch half of that tape,   and I was astounded. It was by a guy named Al Carter who had some of the, you know, like, on the back of a notice of lane and the fact that it's only for government employees and all this titillating kind of stuff.   And then about halfway through, it was Bill Clinton's   first acceptance   speech.   I don't know if you remember that or not.   Hopefully, I don't. Stop it. Well, I I was gonna stop the tape and watch it and come back and watch it. Right? Yep. And so that some people will remember. I was kind of a political animal back then anyway. It   it was the longest acceptance speech in the history of American politics. It lasted over 2 hours. He played his saxophone,   all that kind of stuff. Well, by the time that was over,   I I had to work the next morning,   And I remember I woke up Saturday morning. It's like, Paul, you know, one of those days you wake up, and then I And I remember I woke up Saturday morning. It's like, Paul, you know, one of those days you wake up and you don't even need a cup of coffee. Right? You just wake up and you're wide awake and sit up straight in your bed. I bounded down the stairs. I stuck that tape in, and the second half of that tape was all even more conservative proofs. Right? And at the end of that, I asked myself the question a bunch of people in this audience have asked themselves.  

If they can screw us this bad, what else the hell is going on that we don't know about? And that's where I started.  

[00:15:54] Unknown:

Right.   Yeah. I mean, for people who are very young, I have to point out that when you use the word tape I'm trying we're talking about video, aren't we? Video or VHS or VHS?  

[00:16:06] Unknown:

VHS. No. It was VHS. It sure was. I know. And so that's my Patriot birthday and a couple of well, I was very fortunate. We had a Jewish guy that was he's one of the best networkers I ever met, man. This guy could could solicit people like you've never seen. He was Russian, and he was a really good guy. K? Yeah. And and Stan was a psychiatrist in   Russia.   And he had, they'd given him some small little cockroach   spiderweb hospital, and he turned it into a showcase.   And they were impressed. They gave him a bigger one. He did the same thing. And they were about to send him to Saint Petersburg to the biggest hospital there, and he was just sick of the system. He got to immigrate.   So he got to immigrate to the US, didn't speak a word of English, started driving a cab in New York City. Yeah.  

Hell of a guy, man. Lost all of his credentials. Got him back through LSU, actually, in the US. But he was such an interesting fellow, and he had that Russian accent. You know, Roger, Roger.   And and he'd call and say, Roger. Roger. There's a tax meeting in town. When he knew we were interested,   he knew the scheme because he was a Russian and a Jew. See? Mhmm. And so he go, Roger. We instigated this toward him. You know? Roger. Roger. There's a tax meeting in town. And so I had been to see a guy some people know, Phil Marsh.   He was a tax guy for about 5 years back then and saw him and got some in initial information   that led me further down the path. And a couple weeks then after that, yeah, I get this call. It goes, Roger, Roger, there's a tax meeting in town. I said, Stan, who is it? Who is it? He says, I don't know. It's some guy named Benson.  

And I knew about Bill Benson already, and I thought that was who it was Right. Who, wrote a book called The Law That Never Was. He and Red Beckman   had a sponsor and went to every state of the union that was a state when the 16th amendment was supposedly ratified.   They went in the archives,   and they found that not one state ever ratified the 16th or 17th amendment. Okay. So for for the UK audience, right, what is the 16th amendment? What is that? The 16th amendment is what was what was one of the things passed 17th too in 1913.   And that is what ostensibly   gives the IRS a legal peg  

[00:18:22] Unknown:

to put put put the income tax on you. K? And did that come in did that come in before or after   the arrival of the Federal Reserve?  

[00:18:31] Unknown:

Because it's the same year. Very interesting you'd well, it's the same year, and it's very interesting you'd ask this question. Because what I've come to understand is they always set everything up backwards   so they can execute it frontwards.   Mhmm. Right? Yeah. So in 1913,   they passed ostensibly the 16th amendment. It wasn't ratified.   But the secretary of state, a guy named Philander Knox,   got up in the front of the senate and banged a gavel and said it appears the 16th amendment's been ratified. Boom. It was in the spring.   In June, they passed the 17th amendment,   which severed the before that, the state's legislature   would appoint a senator to DC,   and they severed that connection and made senators   popularly elected.  

That was the 17th amendment. But they waited until New Year's Eve   to pass the Federal Reserve Act.  

[00:19:22] Unknown:

So So they're aligning all their ducks up in a row to to create a shift in terms of the way that they control. The reason.  

[00:19:29] Unknown:

The tax system is   is integral to the monetary system. If they don't have the tax system to balance it just as instant inflation, everybody knows where it's coming from. Mhmm. So they've gotta pass the tax mechanism first   because should they not and they get the Federal Reserve passed and then not be able to pass the taxing mechanism,   the system won't work.  

[00:19:53] Unknown:

It's like their pressure valve, a part of their whole, sort of, control system for the circuit. Right? It's  

[00:19:58] Unknown:

the it's the regulation of the bigger picture of the entire money supply is the tax system. Yep. Mhmm. Yeah. So they pump it in one way, and they drain it out another in in very simple terms. I know it's much more complicated than that. But, you know, Paul, the way I've honestly looked at it all these years is like a boiler. If you have a big boiler and you got a tube that leads in that, say, brings water, and then the boiler heats up and creates steam, and the steam bleeds off on the other end. That's the monetary system.   And they can control it on the front end with interest rates on how much is loaned into the boiler, And then they can bleed off with the tax system and other mechanisms too how much is bled off so they can regulate that temperature and that pressure in the in the boiler so the whole thing doesn't explode. If that makes sense to you, it's a very good analogy. Yeah. It's pretty good. I mean, the the stretching it even further, it feels like we, the consumer, are actually in the boiler being boiled by this process. You are. You you are. You are, mister lobster.  



[00:20:57] Unknown:

I know.   I know. Yeah. It's an it's an interesting way you put it. There's all sorts of different ways of actually articulating this and describing it. And I guess there will be subtle differences, but only subtle differences between the system you were burdened with at that point and the one that we've been burdened with for a long time here. Because,   I mean, in terms of income tax over here,   as you well know, I know, but I'm just reiterating it here. It it didn't exist until the Napoleonic Wars when Pitt said or was put you know, it was, you know, they got together and said, well, a way to raise the money. This is what was sold to the public at the time, and no doubt a huge part of it is true.   We need money to pay for all these armies because we've got to beat this French chap, and so, you know, income tax arrived. But the interesting point, I I don't have my dates on this,   but they got rid of it. I think probably after 18/15, after the Battle of Waterloo, when they decided that matters were settled. But a few years later,   some   wise chap said, you know, that we really like that income tax thing. Can't we have it back? You know, the control guys. So they they brought it back in. But, there was a period where we didn't have it again, you know. And,  

[00:22:03] Unknown:

Well, that's when they were formulating this system.   It was in the early 1800.   And in our country,   I believe now I just realized this a year, year and a half or so ago.   I believe that we now know the reason the Civil War was fought. And I believe once you understand what's really going on now that we know the end game, you can go back with the 13th and the 14th amendments. And I think I can prove to you that they that the reason the civil war was fought was to get those 2 amendments in the constitution  

[00:22:33] Unknown:

so they can control the whole world with it a 100 years later, which is exactly what's happened. Okay. So we've talked about the 16th amendment and 17th. Of course, people are not necessarily gonna remember all this during the show as we rattle through them,   But let's look at the 13th.  

[00:22:48] Unknown:

So what is the 13th amendment? What is that? The 13th amendment is very interesting, and you've gotta look at chronology of events around the Civil War. K?   Mhmm. Or as, one of our good listeners, you know, Daryl came on one day and he said,   you know, it's misnamed.   It's not the civil war. It's the war to bring in the civil law.  

[00:23:10] Unknown:

I like all the different appellations that it's been given. I like I mean, obviously, we use the US Civil War because that's the that's the month or so ago. He I think he referred to it as the war between the states. Some people, of course, depending on which side you're on, refer to it as the war of   Some people, of course, depending on which side you're on, refer to it as the war of southern aggression, which I'm tend to not be on that night. And some refer to it as the war of northern aggression. Yeah. Absolutely. Right.  

[00:23:39] Unknown:

You know, the South had a chance to win that war at the Battle of Manassas.   And it was the first one of the first battles, big battles. They could've walked into Washington DC. There was no Northern army yet.   And a,   a guy named Judah p Benjamin,   who the southern generals called   the president,   his pet Jew. The president of the Confederacy, they called him his pet Jew, Richard b, Benjamin.  

[00:24:08] Unknown:

And he called the generals back, and they hated him for it. They could've won the war right out the gap. But, of course, Benjamin we have to throw this in, don't we? Benjamin was an agent of another party, really, was he not? Yes. Of the Rothschilds. Yes. Really? Okay. And keeps cropping up with alarming regularity.  

[00:24:27] Unknown:

It is. He was a, he owned a plantation in Louisiana.   Yes. And he had married a former black slave as his wife.   And   today, his statue still stands in New Orleans even though they took down Robert e Lees in the middle of the night a couple of years ago.  

[00:24:42] Unknown:

Really?   Gosh. That's extremely wrong, isn't it? But then the usurers tend to get their way, don't they?   They tend to get their way. So  

[00:24:51] Unknown:

so you have to understand the US is the only country in history to ever fight a war to end slavery.   And that's because they didn't fight a war to end slavery.   They fought a war to institute a system of hidden slavery where they could enslave the US and, through the world reserve currency, the entire globe a 100 years later.  

[00:25:11] Unknown:

Yes. I think I think that was definitely laid in. You're absolutely right. I think,   I mean, the   a very interesting,   and appealing period of US history is really from 17/76   to the unfortunate outbreak of hostilities.   Because that period, which is not very long, is it? What is it? 74 years.   That was like that. Yeah. In many ways, you would have to say. And no doubt, they were laying in The Trouble then. I know they were. There was the war of 18 12, wasn't there, where the Brits came back and burnt Washington or the White House down or something, but stole a lot of records, something. I'm a bit misty on this, but I know something went   on. And it must have been very important to them because they were fighting Napoleon all the time all over Europe and spending money everywhere. But they came back to do that. But that period from 1776   through to 18 60, I tend to view it through slight rose tinted spectacles as being the heyday of it actually being a republic.  

And then from 18/60   onwards,  

[00:26:07] Unknown:

it was a republic in name only. The rot was maturing rapidly through your systems. Yeah. I mean, we've been looking for the processes here. But yes. Alright. Well, they brought in the federal system and federalized it. That was the start of it. It was 13th and 14th amendment. But let me give you a little insight here. Just something one day that hit me, you know. I'm going to reform Judaism. Reform Judaism. Reform Judaism. So I went online. Do you know when reform Judaism was started, Paul?  

[00:26:34] Unknown:

No. I don't. But let me have a guess. I'm gonna say around about the 18 forties,   something like that.  

[00:26:40] Unknown:

Pretty close. 18 37 by the Rothschilds.  

[00:26:43] Unknown:

Look at me. My instincts are bang on. Yeah. I thought it was around that. Uh-huh. Yeah. Because they funded it, did they not? Yeah. Yeah. And they and and we learned, I forget, maybe on your show here.  

[00:26:55] Unknown:

I was listening to somebody, and they were talking about the very first in incursion into Palestine   was 18/20,   and the Rothschilds started their first settlement in 18/20. And do you know what that settlement is?   That's the one that was invaded October 7th by Hamas.  

[00:27:13] Unknown:

Is it really? Hamas, which is also Yes. Same one. Yeah, a creation of the same people.  

[00:27:18] Unknown:

Of course. Correct. Of course. Yeah. So, anyway,   we got this war going. And afterwards,   they, they let the the southern senators in   to vote on the 13th amendment,   And that was in June.   And 6 months later in the 14th amendment,   unless your state had ratified the 14th amendment, they wouldn't let them in to vote on it. So what was the 13th amendment? Yeah. Yeah. Well, the 13th amendment is is constitutional,   is the first point. I'm gonna paraphrase it here for you because I'll have it right in front of me. Neither serve no. Neither   slavery nor involuntary   servitude shall unless a person has been duly convicted of a crime,   shall exist in the states just remember there's only one status, the state citizen,   shall exist in the states   or their,   t h e I r, plural, jurisdictions.  

So there's 2 really important things to note in that. It's it looks very simple on the on the surface, but when you start looking at it, you've got slavery and involuntary   servitude.   Well, voluntary   servitude is omitted.   So voluntary   servitude is legal by omission.   Mhmm. And they can't stop it because that's an agreement on your part like a bondservant to go into servitude.   And there's an earlier part of the constitution that says they can't impair the ability to contract.   So they can't impair that, but it's legal by omission in the 13th Amendment.   And the other key thing is their, t h e I r, which denotes the states.  

Now the 14th amendment, we just deal with the first clause,   says all persons born or naturalized in the United States, comma,   and subject to   the jurisdiction   thereof,   singular,   are citizens of the United States and the state wherein they reside. So there's your 2 governments right there. One's plural, the states, in 13th, and one singular in 14th.  

[00:29:22] Unknown:

Mhmm.   Right. And this is basically the foundational basis on which the arrival of income tax   then, and these other events which take place. I mean, actually, not too far after that. We're talking, what, 1913 from   18/65.   That's not a long stretch of time in political. It's about another 45, 50 years, something  

[00:29:45] Unknown:

k?   K?   They   bankrupted the country evidently   in the bond market.   Right. The 29 stock market crash   didn't cause the bankruptcy. It may have indirectly.   K? But it was directly a bond market   bankruptcy, and it wasn't a liquidation bankruptcy, it was a reorganization   bankruptcy.   And that's when they switched the systems.   So let me illustrate this to you in a different way. Okay? And I'm gonna do it by using the word property.   Okay? So, Paul, all of us listening here, no matter where we are in the world, we have a colloquial way of talking, and then there's a technical way of talking. Okay?   And this is the split that they're using. One of the tricks they're using is that right there with the language.  

If I were to say you've got that nice car out there,   that's so you paid it off recently. That's your property, isn't it?   And you said yes Yes. And we'd all understand what just we just said. Right? Mhmm. Yeah. We would. Technically, that's not correct. Okay?   Because   legally, property is a right and the car would be a thing.   So your property is a right in into the thing.  

[00:31:04] Unknown:

Of course, when you start looking   sorry. Well, I was gonna say So share them yeah. Go ahead. No. You I was just gonna say,   the word right   and rights is something we could probably do a whole series of shows on because I I get mentally confused with rights. As I've mentioned to you before,   it's not so much mentally confused.   But it's it's interesting, this thing about ownership.   If I say I own a thing, and you begin to break it down, of course, the the Red Indians, not that I am 1,   and unlikely to be 1 in this lifetime, but the Red Indians assert that you can't own a thing. And I suppose   on a personal level, I view it as stewardship.  

But   you in terms of the these technical things, this is the misuse or the misapplication or the intentional   misdirection of language   to assign to give more power to the controllers and less power to us, a way of curtailing freedom.  

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Yeah. You know, this is very interesting. Let's memory peg this right here, and I'll get back to it. But let me bring something else in there. You know the first time you're ever exposed to this?   This scam?   Which one? There's so many. The one that we're talking. Well, the big one. The big one. And I'm I'm Well, yeah. I did. I did. Yeah. It was the mid nineties. I'm baiting you. Yeah. It wasn't it wasn't it was no. No. It wasn't. It was the first time you saw Alice in Wonderland.  

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Yeah. Maybe. I never liked that film, though. I always find it a bit disturbing to me. Matter.  

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Well, I'm gonna give you a couple of quotes from it. Let me quote a little bit from Alice here. Of course, it was written by Lewis Carroll.   His best friend was a guy named John Ruskin, who was the Oxford Oxford professor that was a Cecil Rhodes professor.   Yes. He went over and taught Lewis Carroll's daughters watercolor twice a week, and he and Lewis Carroll were very good friends. This work was originally called Through the Looking Glass, was the working title. Right? Yeah. Well, Looking Glass, of course, is a mirror. If you go through the the looking glass, you're in a world of opposites then, aren't you?  

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You are. Yes.  

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Okay. And that's where we are. In fact, if you go online and look at Lady Rothschild's costume ball   back in the seventies.   And one of the articles that'll pop up, it says in the first Lady Rothschild. Paul, she was so clever.   She wrote the invitations   backwards,   so you'd have to look at them in a mirror to read them.  

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I've seen those. Yes. That's the that's the where those photographs came out a couple of years ago,   where they're all dressed very oddly by today's, by anybody's standards, actually. They're Yep. It's an esoteric,   sort of process that's taking place. That's exactly what they're doing. Eating eating a cadaver cake and things like that? Yes. All that. So  

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so here's a couple of quotes from, Alice.   At the very first, Alice is being taught by her teacher down on a sloping hill on a blanket.   And Alice, like most students, daydreams often.   And there's a tree at the top of the hill with a branch that parallels the ground, and she is laying on her back on the branch with her cat in this dream daydream.   And this is the dialogue.   If I had a world of my own, everything would be what it is because everything would be what it isn't. And then what it is, it wouldn't be.   You see? Mhmm.  

Yes. There's your upside down world. Okay. Now this one's even more poignant. This is what spurned this.   This is a dialogue between Humpty Dumpty and Alice.   I'm gonna use a little poetic liberty here and add a word. Okay? Just so for emphasis.   When I use a word resident,   Humpty Dumpty said in a rather scornful   tone,   it means just what I say it means,   no more,   no less.   But the question is, said Alice,   how can you make the word resonant mean so many different things? The question is, said Humpty Dumpty,   who's to be master?   That's all.  



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That is all, I think, in their worldview. Absolutely.   Yes. It is. K.  

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So these words are very important. K.   And so back to this property thing.   Before 1933,   we had gold and silver as currency   because we were free people and no one had a property right on us.   And we could buy things, pay the bill with real money and take ownership of that property because no one had a property right in us.   After March 9th 33, they switched the systems,   took the gold. You remember Roosevelt took the gold. I did. And they came out with the paper   that, unbeknownst to you, you were now the collateral for. So people that now have a property right on them can't use real money. They have to use debt money. And they can't pay for things. They can only discharge the debt. And they can't own them, but they can control them and possess them.   There's the change in the systems.  



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Yes.   It's complicated,   isn't it? To people hearing this for the first time I'm just gonna ask you to slow down a bit because   I can tell. I can feel it in the ethers. To people hearing this for this first time, this is a labyrinthine,   highly complicated and at first blush confusing process.   Very much so because it it effectively unsettles   nearly all your perceptions or your views or your beliefs about what money is, what you've been doing with your life to to supposedly earn it, what your status is. I know this is a key part of what you're teaching and what you're actually guiding people on, all of these things,   that we've been put into a position as a as you said, as collateral,   chattel as it were,   for a system which we're led to believe is still the same, but which clearly is not.  

It's clearly been restructured underneath our feet to the benefit of those that want it restructured that way and to our detriment, without a doubt. Yep. Yep. There was, an article. It's on our website, and our poll b,  

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posted on our website. It came out of your country, right at the start of the COVID thing   through your NIH.   K?   What's NIH? Goes in What's NIH? National Institute of Health   the health service. Isn't that what it is?  

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We have we have an NHS,  

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National Health Services. Go and NIH. Do you? Yeah. Okay. Well, we've I don't know what we got. Some kind of crap. I don't I'm sure it's really just like houses. Whatever. It's brilliant. Alright. As we've got an we've got a a a dike Jew Admiral that runs it. You know it's brilliant.  

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Oh, is no. Is that that what is that's that? Oh, yeah. Yeah. You're just going cackling. What's the name? Yeah. You don't get cackling. I think, if you can't cackle now, when can you cackle? But,   what's the name that's that creature,   LaVine? Is it Rachel? Rachel Rachel LaVine. But it's a man. The admiral. This is a woman. She's an admiral. No. She's an admiral. I don't know what I'm supposed to call you. She's a man. She's an admiral.   Okay.   Well, this is good. I'm sure it's all gonna turn out swimmingly well. I mean, what could possibly go wrong?  

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I'm so sorry. Anyway,   anyway, this came out of your National Health Service, whatever it's called. Okay? Mhmm. And we've got the article. It's on the matrix docs, d o c s dot com. You go read it. You probably you may remember hearing about it when I tell you because a lot of people covered it. And and what happened, mom went in to have the baby. They at that point, they're they're sticking that long q tip up everybody's nose, the p b s or p s b test, whatever it is. And so it hurts. The baby's obviously   not comfortable in screaming.  

The mother objects,   and the nurse turns to her. The nurse turns to her and says, you can't object. That baby's our property.  

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Yes.   So, to just jump ahead   with what you've said, just a little thought, because I'm trying to simplify this. Not only   well, I'm trying to simplify it for myself, and I won't I'm not gonna do it in this meeting with you, this show with you. That's not gonna happen because it's complicated.   But the essence of it let's let me have a stab at it now. It'll be wrong in part, but it's something like   this. We have a complex system that is intentionally complicated   to if to drive people's attention away, which it does. It requires   persistent determination to unearth this sort   of, weird,   occult information, the way that things have been structured.  

And we've been put into a position such   that as that they have classed us as cattle effectively, which they own.   And therefore but we are led to believe that we've still got these certain rights and everything like that. But when push comes to shove, just like in this moment with the woman and the baby,   the truth is out that their entire   legal system is arranged in such a way that we don't have these perceived entitlements. We don't have these things because they are saying we own you   literally in law.  

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Is that part of it? You have yes. You have civil rights,   not god given, capital r rights, but civil rights which are nothing more than privileges.   They can be given, and they can be taken away.   K? And and that's the differential between those 2 on our date example.   Before March 9th, they had they were free people and had god given rights and constitutional protections. After that, they've got limited   constitution, which I'll just go ahead and let the cat out of the bag here. Hidden underneath that in all these countries   is the feudal system.  



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Yes. Well, we've, I mean, we've seen   we've seen a lot of articles of those people that are out there grazing the Internet, consuming over the last 5 or 6 years. The the plan of these agendas that they've got, the 2021   and 2030 thing,   is to recreate, bring back   a feudalistic   condition   where there are lords and and there are slaves, effectively, to use their own Well, they've already got they've done that. They're just gonna finalize it. They've already done that. We've already got that situation. They're just gonna finalize it. But your work on the beautiful part I wanna throw a positive in here. Your work, therefore, just to just to cut to the end, or possibly part of the end, and I won't get this right either.   What what I've got from listening to you, not all these details now, but what I get is   what you're pushing for is this, that there's something   in the status.  

I'm just going to use that word. I don't even really know what that means. I know what it means in class circles. Right? But let's there is this word called status, I e something that defines us.   That there is a process that you are involved with, that you are a key part of,   which can affect or change   or   move your status in such a way that you are removed   from this condition that they've placed you in, and that   these hidden powers, these hidden forces that they are laying over you   suddenly become or are in the process of becoming null and void. And you are freed up That's correct. From whatever obligations, whatever things they say you have a contract with us, which you weren't aware of because you don't even use that language. But they do in their little circles. So that if you shift your status, if you go through a process of shifting your status,   you remove yourself from these hidden hitherto to you, hidden contractual obligations, which they say   bind upon you, turning you into a slave, and you say, no. I've done this. I've done that. Here's this. Here's that. I'm not talking to you anymore.  

Bye. Is that is that the gist of it? That's  

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the gist of it. And they recognize it because they have to. If they recognize it because they have to. If they don't recognize it, because this is their system they've built,   if they don't recognize it, they're open tyrants.   And they know history very well and what happens to open tyrants. You see, if they tell you what you are, that's tyranny.   But if because you're the one that determines where you are, I can go live in any country of the world. Okay? As long as I can get there to kind of passport and go through this procedure.   But yet, they try and hide this one where I basically call it repatriation,   where you repatriate back to the original   state citizen status   that was the only political status in the country for almost 80 years   before the passage of the 14th amendment. Then that created the second one. So that was the only one. And the key to it, Paul, is what we covered earlier in the 13th amendment, and that is voluntary   servitude.  

It's got to be voluntary  

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servitude, and that means you've got to agree to it. Okay? And and yet is it not the case? Is it not the case that they have put in place all sorts of machinations and processes and communications   which have caused people unknowingly to put themselves in voluntary servitude. Is that 1. Is that part of it? 1. Well, they've asked 1. They've got 1,  

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and then the others reconfirm   that. Okay? Mhmm. And that is the the you mentioned contract. This is the feudal system.   It is a contract.   It's a contract that most lawyers nobody's ever heard of because it was exclusive to this system. It's a silent contract   that runs generationally.   Now how you identify it is,   is a this is English. This is the English variety of slavery. Okay? You know, England has a free soil doctrine. There's never been a slave born on the island of England.   This was the voluntary   aspect after William the conquer   beat King Harold and brought in the   European Common Law, which included feudalism.  

But they only brought the voluntary   side over, not the involuntary   side that was like black slavery that existed in Europe. They could only bring the voluntary over because of English free free soil doctrine. Okay?   So that's what William the Conqueror did. If you go look at the doomsday book in Black's Law Dictionary, it'll say William the Conker sent out surveyors,   talks about minute and second measurements, surveying terms.   And he gave all the land of England to his nobles.   But William was really smart about this. We're still a bit boss about that.   Right. He was real smart about it because he take somebody and he'd give them land up in where you're from up in the northwest.  

He'd give them some in the southeast. He'd give them some in the northeast, and he'd give them some down by Cornwall.   So they were constantly riding from territory to territory and never had time to get together and plot to overthrow him.  

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Yes.   Yes, he was. Okay. Yes, he was. I mean, obviously, the Domesday Book, as far as we're aware, is the first sort of big tax it's a big database.   So actually, learn the basis of, you know, I mean, it's a long time it's a 1000 years ago, Nellie, it's this thing. You brought him the feudal system. It's the feudal system. The word estate  

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means less than true ownership in itself.   So in those days, and I'm not sure of the sequence here, but if you owned your land directly from William, let's say you were called a prince,   and if you sublet your land out to somebody else, they might call you a duke. And if the duke sublets his land out to somebody else, he was called an earl.   So they knew by your title   in what   relationship you owned your land from the king.  

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Interesting. I didn't know that. That's very interesting. Okay. Yeah. That's useful. So anyway, he instituted this the feudal system in England,  

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and and there was only the voluntary side. Now in that, and you can go look this in Monty Python's Holy Grail, they've got one of these. It's called an oath of fealty. It's all historically a fealty. Well  

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Well, sure. Yeah. Fealties to the lord. Yes.  

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Right. And so this was   well, this is the way you volunteered into the condition that you could only volunteer in. There was no involuntary servitude in England. And so you would let's say, the time for bad down in jolly old, you couldn't,   England, you couldn't feed the family, and you go, hey, honey, I gotta go volunteer into servitude. Well, okay, honey, if that's what we gotta do. So you go to the lord of the manor, and you cut a deal with him. And then they come on, and you do this ceremony,   an oath of fealty. And you would kneel on both knees. Now that's very important because you only kneel on both knees to God. K?   You would kneel on both knees   and put your hands above your head as if you were praying.  

The lord of the manor would stand over you,   put his hands over your hands.   The rest of the serfs were surrounding   this oath because they're witnesses.   This is a contract,   an oral contract.   Right. That you would swear your body   and your worldly goods   to the lord of the manor.   Your body as property   and your worldly goods, because now he had a property right in you and you couldn't own other property. So you had to give him your worldly goods too.  

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Nice. That's a silly deal. How attractive is that? It's very attractive. Well, that's why why do you think they like why do you think they like the system?   Of course. It's great. It's really good if you if you're the if you're the guy in charge. But I guess the guy taking the the the voluntary servitude,   contract,   under such conditions of   hardship that he had no other choice. I can only assume that that must have been the case. And, of course, they would have brought about, as you mentioned,   the causative reasons to put him into hardship, to basically drive people into   voluntary servitude, which is a very sort of cat headed way of saying you're gonna you're mine, basically. Yeah.  



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And I'm sure some of the lords were good guys, and people would stay, you know. And they have children. So now you and the wife are property.   And when you get amorous and you produce a child,   the child is born into the same condition because you were in the condition.   It's no different if you got a bull and a calf out in the backyard and they have a calf. That calf's yours. K? A bull and a cow. Same thing here. They've got a property right into you. You're born into that condition.   But it's voluntary.   And you can go 6, 7, 8, 10 generations,   and someone can still volunteer   out.  

Right. So and are you saying that in simple language, there is an opportunity for people to volunteer out of the condition that they're in? There's got to be because you volunteered in, but you were put in it with fraud. So for the Americans particularly will relate to this. Okay?   So in 33,   when they switched the system,   they put everyone in the country in a surety for this hypothicated   debt in this 14th amendment condition as property.   So every generation that's been born since March 9th 30 3   is born into the same condition.   As you get older,   you're gonna get these two questions.  

Are you a citizen of the United States?   Are you a resident?   Mhmm. And you sign something.   Everyone always answers yes.   And now even though you didn't volunteer in the condition, they put you in with fraud,   you've now agreed to it.   Right.  

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So the   the language that they've used has evolved,   and the smoke screens that they've used have evolved, but the principle remains the same. You are taken into a condition,   unknowingly.   I I we have to assert that, because most people listening to this will not know any of this at all.   Much of what you're saying is new to me. I guess I've always been just trying to get the base of the   I'm very happy now,   with getting very clear that there is a pro that by changing your status in regard to this condition, which most people are unaware of, you nullify it, and you're back in a position of being in the saddle with your own life.  

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What you do is you remove yourself from being a Jim Crow federal citizen,   and you literally   the federal government loses all control and ties over you   with the exception   of 2 very rare and obscure constitutional   taxes   in the Internal Revenue Code, which I don't think any of our people would ever owe.   Those are the only attachments that the federal government has to you. Oh, all of the over 600 plus federal agencies,   all of the state agencies, which are political subdivisions of the federal government,   all of their regulations   or man made laws   are written for residents.  

And that goes back to the 14th amendment.   All persons born or naturalized in the United States, comma,   and   subject to the jurisdiction thereof,   comma,   are citizens of the United States, a, there it is, and the state wherein they reside,   a resident.   Now what they're asking you when they ask you those questions,   are you a federal citizen the same as this is the first one. Are you a citizen of the United States? Are you a federal citizen the same as former black slaves   who were given federal citizenship with civil rights after the civil war? And you, not knowing what they're asking you, answer yes.   The resident one is the real tricky one,   because virtually nobody knows the origins of this, Paul.  

The origins of the term resident are in ambassadorial   law   when countries trade ambassadors and sign a treaty.   Okay? Right. So as you know, I'm in Ecuador. Alright? So I I use Ecuador.   So let's say the Ecuadorian   ambassador   flies into Dulles. They're outside of DC,   and he gets caught with a kilo of cocaine in this diplomatic pouch. Happens all the time. What do they do to him? Yeah. Well, he could. Okay. But what do they do to him is the question.   I don't know. They throw him in jail for trafficking? Which guy? They send him back to Ecuador. Right. They send him back to Ecuador because he's in residence,   and that means Ecuador's laws apply to him, not the laws of the United States.  



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So these words, there's a clutch that have been used, and there's probably many more. We've there's the word resident, there's citizen, there's national,   there's   status. There is there a, like,  

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a little handbook of crisp, crystal clear definitions of these letters? Is there one I'd say so. We got one of our real good students, Devin, has he got real moved by this information. He wrote his own book. Mhmm. Little book. It's 71 pages long. It's called The Citizen Handbook for Nationals.   You can find it on our website. Download it and read it. And, yes, I think that would cover all those things. Fantastic. And there's, you know, there's a lot of people in your book. Right? In his dictionary, Roger, or or in this document,  

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does it deal with,   subjects? Because you see, we have a king.  

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So Right. Right. And well and did you catch that in the 14th amendment and subject  

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to the jurisdiction thereof? Well, I didn't. I've only heard you say it the once. But, yes, I'll go and look at it. But, right, I mean, you know, because we all love being subjects of the king. We love it. Don't we ever show you where everything turns everybody's got to. Let me show you where this turns, though. This is very interesting.  

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That's what it says. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, comma, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof. So there is a 2 pronged legal test.   So you gotta be born or naturalized in the United States for the first prong. They took care of that by putting you into this condition after March 9th 33.   Mhmm. So they took care of that. The and subject.   Notice it doesn't say are subject to the jurisdiction thereof.   It says and.   So if there's some that are and subject, aren't there some that are and not subject by default?  

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That would seem by logical deduction to be true. That's the national. There's the national.  

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So that two questions, are you a citizen of the United States and a resident, which are the end of the 14th amendment, are the trigger for and subject to the jurisdiction  

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slave.   So you have the mitzvah there. Got it. So people   are seduced into by convention and by group mass agreement and by historical, you know, echo down the lines. Yes. I'm a citizen and a resident. They claim that, and in the process of doing that, they put that they're basically saying, oh, yeah. And I also understand, even though they don't. I understand that this is putting me in voluntary service to you to you and your systems. Yep. That's what happens. Your your man Bertrand Russell called it that the people would be enslaved and enjoy their slavery.  

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And this is how they're doing it right there. Okay? Now, you know, you know who the colonel Mendel House was? He was Woodrow Wilson's handler. I know. Heard his name. Yeah. I know.  

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It was So let's just say to people for listeners who are not, colonel Mendel House, he wrote a book called Philip Drew   Administrated Me, in which they were laying out much of their plans. And he was, he was Wilson's right hand man. And much of these calamitous, hideous decisions that Wilson was,   compelled,   to enter into because they had dirt on him, some dalliance with some   birds some years previously, which was gonna completely detonate his public   persona and everything. So he ended up signing the most hideous agreements into law because, they were they had him over a barrel. And I'm not he won't be the first person in a position of power to have had to endure that, no matter how good he was. He was he was up to Epstein.  

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So in his papers when he died, they found a note from Colonel House. Mhmm. It's in a it's in a a book by a former judge and US attorney,   called Fruit from a Poisonous Tree, but it's very interesting. I can't quote the whole paragraph. But at the very first, he said, we will make them sureties   by invoking the ancient pledge.   What's the ancient pledge? The oath of fealty.   Right.  

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Roger, we're halfway through the shutters. We're at the top of the hour, so you can take you can Uh-huh. We're just gonna take a break now.   Now, he foolishly   sent   some some tracks over for us. So as you know   okay.   And I I know I don't think you're here for the full 2 hours, but this is up to you. But, I'll just I'll anyway, we're at the top of the hour. You're listening to, Paul English Live. Paulenglishlive.com.   We're here on wbn324.zill.   I'm here with, Roger Sales, my guest. I'm gonna say all this again after this, but we're gonna play   a song. I'm gonna pick one, and, Paul just did a remix whilst we're on air. This is such an amazing service.  

It's just fantastic.   I don't think just to let you know, Paul hasn't taken oath of fealty to me with regards   with regards to producing these things. Okay? So we're gonna play this song. I'm here with Roger Sales, and we'll just have a we'll have a word. This runs for about 4 minutes, and, if you identify it well, he won a bag of toffees. Here we go. It's a toe tapper.   Oh,   it's just a mind b, old man.   Oh, baby. I just don't know.   34   radio. Something.   Something.  

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Hello, and, welcome back to hour 2, just after the hour. Actually, just gone 7 minutes past 9 here in the UK. So what, 7 minutes past 4? I'm here with, Roger Sales.   And, Roger, you pick that. What on earth was it?  

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That was one way out by the famous Allman Brothers with the slide guitar being played by the late deceased Duane Allman,   probably the finest slide guitar player in history.  

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And you grew up on that? That's your era of music.   Yeah. Yeah. I kinda did as well. I'm a little bit young I'm a little bit young. I mean, I was I'm looking at the date on that. That's 1971,   so I was 11. So I have to tell you, I was not aware of them when I was 11. This is true. I was aware of other things, ice cream and stuff like that, but not really rock music. That came about 4 or 5 years later. And,  

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they were a southern band, obviously, and that particular cut and the other one that I sent you called Statesboro Blues   were both done live at the Fillmore East in New York City.  

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Right.   Yes, I can see that. Well, you know, if you're here we might get around to Statesboro Blues. Although, normally, what I try to do is I don't try to have have 2 songs in the show from the same people. So I don't know, maybe somebody could call in and sing us a song. You never know. Well,  

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those were, what they would do is they would go back and get songs from, like, Howlin' Wolf and   and and and all these old black artists, and that Statesboro Blues is one of those, and I think One Way Out is also. Also. Yeah.  

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Your turn on radio your turn on radio, was it were you on radio  

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doing things like this at that time, or was that a little bit less? I I I right as I got into radio, it was within the 71. Yeah. Right. And I was   a smacky mouth disc jockey in Panama City, Florida. Were you?  

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Down. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Smacky mouse. I quite like that. What does that mean? Smacky mouth. Yeah. That means  

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you're and we're more than his   stay tuned.  

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I like it. I need to call you after the show and get some tips on that because I wouldn't mind being called Paul Smackie Mail of English. That's quite interesting. I quite like that one. That's pretty cool. Yeah. So I was just starting my career. Yeah. No. That's how I got in the music business right, actually. Go ahead. Go ahead. Yeah. No. I mean, I don't know if I mentioned it in this show earlier or whether it was on the end of the conversation with you this afternoon. This is always the thing. A problem with pre show chats is I never know where I've put it in the show or whether I'm about to repeat it. But we would I was mentioning this thing. I've mentioned it here a couple of weeks ago as well, but it's worth repeating again. This you talked about the end of radio   or the music industry with certain tax things that had happened. But this was a little discussion, and I did mention it here on the show, but I'm gonna repeat it,   where this,   telecommunications   act got passed in 90 6 or something, enabling,   I think it's Clear Feed or something like that. Clear feed commune and another company Clear Channel. Clear Channel. And they bought up all these radio stations. And since then,   I couldn't have told you that that's what caused it. But everybody feels   that the record industry or the recording, whatever you want to call it, has basically the vast majority of what it produces   this century is complete junk, most of it. Yeah. The the stuff that they put together is just conformist, boring, tedious PAP. I mean, it's just useless stuff. There's not a bunch of different ownership  

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entities to go to where you can break new records from unknown artists that people play them and see if you've got something to move on to the bigger markets. Mhmm. When Newt Gingrich passed the deregulation   act in Clear Channel and,   Cumulus was another one, and there's a couple of them, They came in and bought all those radio stations. So now instead of having 10 or 12 different owner stations to go to, you go to 1 guy, And he controls all that. And now, the record company presidents really are bound at his feet.  

[01:07:34] Unknown:

Yeah. It's it's a bad state of affairs. I mean, it explains why. You think, oh, suddenly, oh, the young generation, they can't produce music. But this is complete nonsense. It's just that it's not made as accessible in the ways that people have been trained into into it. And I think I was mentioning earlier, somebody I was speaking to Malefika Scott the other day because he's a musician and many people involved in the radio game have got a strong love, and sort of a history in music, which is understandable.   And I, I was talking to him about this and I I passed off some sort of idiotic comment like, you know, where do I find all the new people? I mean, they've got to be out there but I just haven't got the time to do it. I I personally don't. It sounds lame but it's just I just look at my I'm going back to the time thing. I need a 48 hour day. I've banged on about this for ages. But he said he sent me something.  

He said, go and have a look at this. And it was,   an artist called,   a lady in London. I mean, it could have been anywhere, I suppose, but she was a a London gal called Kerianne, spelled c e r I a n.   And she's got a keyboard, and she plays keyboard and 3 or 4 things. And she's just she got a headset on and she's just singing and playing music straight at you live on a Twitch feed,   and it was very, very good. It was very good. It's not necessarily the music that I like, but that's not the point. You smell talent or you see it straight off and it's all over the place. But, of course, it's pushed out of spaces. And I do think that there's a great   opportunity for shows like this and anybody that's doing things like this to try we we got to find some kind of bridging mechanism to bring these artists into these spaces   because   music is very very powerful. And the other side, as we know, I know from per personal contacts,   they do not like it when you start to get things into song because song   bites and moves faster than anything else. It's an extremely powerful medium,   very, very powerful. It's why you just played the ornament because it's resonant with  

[01:09:30] Unknown:

all this time. It's the, it's the universal language.  

[01:09:34] Unknown:

Well, it is.   It is. Yeah. I mean, it creates a lot of arguments. It did it did it with me and my mates. But that was, I like them, by the way. I like the old I knew I was gonna like the old men brothers and I have heard Oh, boy. They're they're great. Great bands. And he was very old. Last week. Yeah. No. He wasn't. He died. He died. He died. He was riding a motorcycle without a helmet, had a crash, had a concussion, died, unfortunately.  

[01:09:55] Unknown:

The one you played last week that spurned all this was Rambling Man, which I played when I was in radio. Okay? But Dwayne was already dead by that time, and they had a fantastic guitar player for the rest of the life of the band named Dickie Betts. And that's who was doing all those riffs and everything and what you played last week. But that's why I sent you that. I said, you wanna hear some real Allman Brothers? Boom. Okay. So that's where that came from.   I wanna go back. So for clarification for the audience, I wanna do a connection here so they'll understand.   Okay? On the connection between how they got the feudal system in.  

Okay? And the the the key was in that story   about the nurse there in your country.   And see, there's 2 ways to pass hereditament.   1 is by blood.   That's called Jus, j u s, law, Sanginius,   I believe is the way it's pronounced.   And the other is Just Law of tiara, of the ground. The one by blood is where you take on your parents'   political status.   And that's still evident if you, you know, if you've got Greek grandparents   or Polish,   Spanish,   Italian,   you can go back and get those passports.   Mhmm.  

[01:11:11] Unknown:

What is a passport?  

[01:11:12] Unknown:

What is 1? That's a What is a passport? A passport is a document issued by a competent authority   that presents you to foreign countries   in your true and correct political status.   So could could I be a competent authority? I mean, there's gonna be a lot of doubt about that. Yeah. No. You're gonna have to get some endorsements to do it. But it's something from your country that you apply for   that goes in and establishes your political,   status and your personal legal personality.   That means from where you get your rights and to whom you owe your duties. Yeah. And that presents you to foreign countries. It's under the law of nations   by Vatel.  

Okay?   And so that is, you can go back if you've got one of those countries. Those countries are under Jos and Gineas,   or else you wouldn't be able to go back if your grandparents were Polish and get a Polish passport.   The other is called just tiara,   tiara being dirt.   That means you're assigned a political status from where you're born.   That's what happened to that child. It's born on the Isle of England, You're under this system. The nurse says you can't object. That baby's our property. Notice it was a brand new baby. It didn't have a birth certificate yet. It wasn't any of those things. Those aren't the nexus. Those represent the nexus. Okay? It's being the act of being born. I'm gonna give you the perfect example,   whether you've heard of it or not, in our country called anchor babies. Are you familiar with that term? I've heard of it. Yes. I'm I'm familiar with that term.  

Yes. Okay. For the audience, it isn't. An anchor baby is when a Mexican mother comes across the Rio Grande,   9 months pregnant, has the child on the US side,   the child is now a citizen of the United States, the parents are still Mexican nationals.   That's just Tiara. And the only system in history   where that has been operable   was the feudal system.   And it was integral to the feudal system because it maintained the labor on the manor without having to go out and acquire additional labor.  

[01:13:22] Unknown:

Right.   So   you have   been involved in for a long time. And over recent years, certainly with your broadcasting and with the book you wrote, Sovereign to Serve,   you are effectively championing a process   for people to enter into,   where they take themselves   from this implied condition that they've that they now find themselves in courtesy of reading your material, and they get themselves out of this condition of voluntary servitude servitude  

[01:13:51] Unknown:

and change their status. Is that right? That's correct. I like to look at it this way because, you know, whether you do that or not is not my decision. So   I you used the word champion. I guess that's correct. But I consider my role   is to be the guy to tell you that you've got a choice that you probably didn't know you had   and to give you the facts and let you make the decision as to if that's what you wanna do or not.  

[01:14:18] Unknown:

Right. So you you've you've worked on the processes   for the US,   yet   we now here in the in   jolly old England,   we are faced probably with although there'll be slight variations in it, but we are faced really with a similar process. There must be a channel and a path through for us here in these islands to actually put us to go through a similar process.  

[01:14:43] Unknown:

Let me give you the big picture here. The big picture is   this is how Esau Edom has stolen back his birthright.   I believe we're talking about the beast system of revelation,   mystery Babylon   that nobody understands.   K? Because of the words and because of the hidden nuances like this feudal system. Alright?   But now your guy, you introduced oh, I haven't talked to him. Him. I've heard about him through you named John Smith.   And I believe John Smith has the answer for the rest of the world in this condition.   But I don't know much about his   his process. I know a little bit. But I think what it does is the same thing that what our affidavit does when you submit it to the Secretary of State.  

They're running excuse me. They're running everything, Paul, under what's called a presumption   of law. Have you ever heard of that? I have heard that. Yes.   Okay. A presumption of law is a presumption   based upon another fact.   So they go in and   and   and and through fraud bankrupt the country, and then they put you in as a surety.   And it's the presumption   that you're this covering for that debt. And then they ask you if you agree with it throughout your whole life, and you do. So, I mean, Paul ought to know what he is. Ignorance of the law is no excuse. You're you're a serf and you admitted it. Right? So we're gonna take you at your word. That's what's going on. Okay? So you've got to rebut that presumption.   And that's what the affidavit does. And I believe that's what John Smith's common law birth certificate does the same thing.  



[01:16:23] Unknown:

I'm gonna have to really look into this properly. As you know, I've dallied with it for several years ever since you brought it to my attention. And I have spoken to John Smith, but that would be maybe 3 or 4. It was certainly pre COVID, so it's some time ago. Mhmm. And in this interim period,   although I have not made connection with any of these individuals, but I've got a couple lined up on my to invite here list.   There are there more have sprung up.   Certainly more have sprung up. I don't I'm not suggesting that their presentations contradict one another because I've not looked into them hard enough.   A little comment here by the way from Warren who says John Smith is a good man and speaks with honor. Certainly, Warren. That's how I found him when I spoke to him as well.  

I I I find that, I guess, as a marketeer, which is what I used to do,   I'm very keen   on finding extremely simple,   almost posterised   meme,   Very brief things to get this point across. Because what you're I'm just gonna use the word suggesting. I think it's much stronger than that. But let me just use that word for now. I think you've got a deep conviction about this, which is borne out from your your deep personal understanding of the whole thing. But what what is being suggested here is that   there is a process. I'm I'm repeating myself again, but there's a process that someone here in the UK could take us through or show   us that the pivot point of   the bulk of their control system   is that we are in a condition that we're basically prone, almost supine at their mercy, whenever the push comes to the shove. This sort of sense that we don't have an ability to   You're saying, well, yes, of course, because you unknowingly   volunteered for this status. Now here's what you do to knowingly,   correct that error that's that's hung over you your entire life. Yeah.  



[01:18:16] Unknown:

See, now here's the important part. Why why do they want this system like this?   And why have they gone to such lengths to carry this out?   Because once they have a property right in you,   that allows them to do 2 really important things.   They take the birth certificate,   which is acting, we believe, as a warehouse receipt, which is a commercial document where the paper actually takes on the good and the good becomes the paper. Right? Mhmm. And so then they attach your birth certificate to the bonds.   Is not bond the root word of bondage? Yes. It is.   Okay. So they, they're collateralizing   your future income,   and they're putting that out in the bond market in 5, 10, 20, 30 year bonds.  

And they pay the coupons to the bond holders   by extracting your income tax to pay them.  

[01:19:12] Unknown:

Roger, I I I'm you're absolutely you bang on with that. I mean, I've mentioned I may have mentioned it to you sometime back, and I think I've probably mentioned it here before. But, you know, repetition is the key with this stuff.   Yes. The the guy   that taught me about banking   back in   1997, one day,   I'm being driven to the railway station because it was the end of the working day, and he said I'll drop you off as I'm in the car. We're tooling along down this road somewhere in Essex, it was at the time,   And we pass a   a   a completely   hideous   one story building, a typical government building, you know, devoid of any beauty what whatsoever, just junk, basically, meant to send out signals of misery into the local area, which it suitably did. He said, do you see that building over there? I said, yes.  

He said, do you know what they do in that building? I said, well, of course not. I don't I'm not from around these area pirates. I don't know what they he said, well, they gather in all the birth certificates. He said, these these buildings are all over England. He said, and this is the local one here. And they gather the birth certificates in.   This is the way he expressed it, you know. And he said they those birth certificates are gathered up on a regular basis and they go off   and they end up in the on the desk of the treasury.   I said, really?  

He said, yeah. He said, and then,   somebody inside the Treasury Department will make a calculation. They will look at the gender, the sex of the baby. Is it a boy? Is it a girl? And they will make a calculation based on the data that they had at the time   of what the total amount of income tax that little baby   would would likely pay during the course of its working lifetime. And they would come up with a number.   And that number and the birth certificate   surety for the loan that they were about to issue as a bond.   As a bond? The one that Yeah. Absolutely. On the bond You've heard this  

[01:21:00] Unknown:

On the bond line. You've heard the statement. You've heard the statement, there is no money, there's only credit.   Yes. I have heard that statement. It's true. This is the credit spout. This is the origin of the credit spout.  

[01:21:12] Unknown:

Yes. I mean, he this is, you know, he was fighting that through different thing. And interestingly and I've got this confirms really at least your position on this. I don't know about all the details. But he would say to me, he said the only way that we are gonna deal with this is in law. And he was litigious to a degree. I'd never ever met anybody like this before. I'm sort of green. I don't think, I don't want to go into a court. I mean, I did end up in one for 3 days.   But but I, he was just at home with this arena knowing the game and what was being played.   And he was involved in buying and selling government bonds.  

1 of only 25 people in the world that were allowed to do this.   Right. The, and he explained this whole industry and how he got into it. And it's an industry you won't see advertised ever,   because these pea are specially appointed individuals who have an a blemish free track record, which he did. I'd never met anybody quite like this in terms of his the precision of his thinking. It was it was astonishing to me. Yeah. I was astonished by him, and he's concerned it in equal measure. Yeah. They're called primary bond dealers,  

[01:22:16] Unknown:

and, they are contracted in our country with the Federal Reserve. You remember,   when 911 at Cantor Fitzgerald, one of the top,   couple of floors, that was a primary bond dealer. Okay? Mhmm. And they have a contract with the Federal Reserve, and their problem is   they contract to buy the bonds whether they can sell them or not.   They've got Well, it's not so much a problem. It's obviously by design. You're you're right to explain it to them. Been till recently. It hasn't until recently. No. It's a big problem for them now because nobody wants US bonds, and all the countries in the world are dumping them. So now the Federal Reserve is having to buy them all or the market goes upside down. That's what's causing the backlog in the banking system. They took those low interest bearing bonds and shoved them in all the banks. That's what happened to Silicon Valley Bank. 55%   of their assets were 1%   yielding bonds.  



[01:23:10] Unknown:

Yes.   Yeah. Absolutely.   I mean, what he showed me, and I was kind of aware of this from certain material that he'd given me anyway,   is that there is a pre market in the selling and the exchange of bonds that there's no one knows about. Hardly anybody knows about this. These guys that are appointed because he had an apprentice   called Stephen. I won't give his surname, but he's called Stephen. And he may still be alive. I've not spoken to him and probably and since all this trouble happens, so it's probably 20 years now, he might still be kicking around. In fact, I'm thinking about it. I might be able to contact him if he   still is. He got trained in in this stuff by this man   and was flying all over Europe to go into certain meetings   for the buying and selling of bonds.  

And he was describing some of the bizarre behavior that took place in these meetings. For example, there was one that he went to where they were not allowed to look at one another. I can't tell you for what, but they weren't. They were in the same room   and and there were witnesses there.   And he was facing the wall and the other guy was talking to had his back to him and he was facing the other wall. And they were talking out loud as if it's absolutely surreal, this stuff. Absolutely surreal to to negotiate or to come up with an agreement on this piece of paper. And the the whole key to it, as I could understand it, and this is maybe where it comes to companies like Cantor Fitzgerald and places like that, is that there is a thing on this called an exit price,   which is already pre agreed and known. So, for example, you know, the major institutional   investment like pensions companies and insurance companies who are sitting on supposedly piles of cash or at least money. Right? Mhmm. They were the people that would be buying those and they would be buying them in sufficient quantity. They got a discount.  

I don't know what the discount is on the paper, but it's single digits or something and they get an annual yield. And all of their planning is based around this, and it's a solid supposedly a solid rock solid investment because it's backed up by the probity and surety By the government. Blah blah blah blah blah, bloody blah. Exactly. And therefore, that's where the income tax comes in because they need that. They go, great. We've taxed the whole nation as surety for this loan.   So they would pay they had the cash, which the banks needed. They needed that liquid back in fast.   So they say, yeah. We we can issue one of these notes, so that, say 10 just keep the numbers simple. 10% off the face value. Good. Great. We'll have that, and it's a 6% annual yield, or whatever it was, or whatever it is. These things change, of course, all the time. What unbeknownst   to all of these people   is that there's a pre market in that paper that takes place before it even arrives there at 10% discount.  

And that would last for maybe 3 to 4 months.   And the reason is is the governments are so desperate for cash,   they would take   money now at a vastly reduced,   at a much bigger discount.   So you could if you were invited to participate and and everybody that was invited was massively vetted, you couldn't just walk in and go, oh, I'd like to buy one of these things. Of course. But you bloody would. Right? So he took me through it. He said they want they're   they're restricting and controlling all of the individuals that get involved. And when they are involved, they weren't free to do with the prophets what you think they would be able to do. They had certain obligations,   but they were key part of it to keep the system spinning around. So someone would buy, say, a $1,000,000,000   Treasury note for 500,000,000   and they would own it for about 20 minutes.  

About 20 minutes. And they would sell it 20 minutes later for 510   or whatever. And this thing would bounce up the line   because everybody bought it, knowing knowing that someone had already agreed, an institutional investor, in a month's time to pay 900,000,000   for it. It was and that that couldn't not be paid. It was already the paper was already done. So they're going, what you're gonna give me I can buy an asset for this and I just can't help but make money. Correct? You just and of course, the banks didn't mind because they were banking the residual profits in the as it stepped up. And when he explained this to me, this would be 95,   96.  

I just got the whole I thought   everything that everybody is doing   is complete horseshit.   This thing Yep. Is overpowering everything, and he was of the same view.   He was much more knowledgeable because he he was actually sitting down He involved. Doing this for major industrial companies. And he told me, he said most of the major car companies, they don't make that money selling cars. They have people like me buying and selling paper with all the cash they've got from the sales. That's where they do it. And it's all but, of course, it's back in the banking system. So the, ultimately, the banking system starts to control the industries,   which is why, you know, you've lost all this sort of difference. We've talked about it in music, but it goes all over the place. So Yeah. Yeah. It's an asphyxia What do you mean? Thought when I first when it first hit me and he explained it and I went through it. And of course, he had a lot of documentation about this.  



[01:27:55] Unknown:

Explained it, and I went through it. And, of course, he had a lot of documentation about this. Look at it like this, Paul. There's 2 major markets. You got the equities market. It's represented by the stock market.  

[01:28:04] Unknown:

Mhmm. And you've got the debt market, which is the bond market.   Well, did you know that the bond market is 5 to 10 times bigger than the stock market?   I was pretty much aware of that. Yes. Yes. I know it's So the the stock market has got all these big buildings and manufacturing and warehouses and trucks   and all all that stuff that represents that. Right?   What represents the debt market   that's 10 times bigger? Mhmm. I don't know. You.   Your Labour.  

[01:28:33] Unknown:

I thought you were gonna say a little bloke in an office in the back room of the Bank of England, which much more appeals to my  

[01:28:46] Unknown:

bondholders. Yes. You see, that's the problem the Federal Reserve's got right now. Because of BRICS and all the other stuff that they've done around the world, all these countries are dumping these bonds.   They can't let them sit out there. They've gotta buy them. In fact, what they're doing is they're printing money in the background and giving it to Ireland, Belgium,   the Cayman Islands, and one other British protectorate.   And they're bellying up and showing up at the treasury   bond market and buying all these bonds. Okay? And so they got straw buyers that's directly   inflationary.  

Okay?   And,   but they have accumulated   over 50% of the bonds in the world. That's why they're shoving them out to all these banks to try and get them out of their portfolio.   Because now the income tax is diminished in their in their collections.   If they don't have the taxes that gotta come in, they have to eat their own fraudulent   paper.  

[01:29:43] Unknown:

Yes. They do. Of course, historically, one of the, key solutions they've applied to a situation like this is to initiate wars to Not what   a   oh,   yes.   I'd not really thought of that. Actually, of course, I completely thought of that. But What what oh, yes. I'd not really thought of that. Actually, of course, I completely thought of that. But I yeah. That's that's what it is. I I think   I don't want you see, I don't want I don't need to know too much more about the mechanisms of the system, in the sense that, may if if if I thought there was a route through for me personally to affect it in that way, This chap that I worked with, he didn't see it like that. He's he he had   it's the control of the process of law that he said was the problem.  

Because Mhmm.   When he was I didn't know he was up to he was doing this.   He he was trying to get charges brought against him   that were very heavy and they wouldn't charge him with what he wanted. This is bizarre. Right? Because I remember meeting him after he'd been to see a silk, which is higher than a barrister. Right? It's a very high silk. And he'd been to see a silk because there were people around him who he had made very wealthy,   who were very concerned for it because of what was taking place.   And he told the silks that I can defend you and do this and this will be fine. He said, I don't want you to do any of that. And they were appalled. They said, well, I can't be in the same room with you because I'm gonna break my oath to defend you. He said, you know, this is ridiculous. You're actually you're putting yourself in harm's way. He said, that's exactly what I want to do. Because he was looking for them to charge him in such a way that he he had a body of evidence that took it to a much deeper and heavier level. And, of course, it would have been one of these court cases that's in camera or you public can't see, what's the point of all this? You know, we can never get access to the truth, because vested interests, of course, have colossal power, and and are able to do that, you know.  



[01:31:31] Unknown:

Well, I think what you said right there is more important than you know.   And what he told you that it was a by operation of law.   Because, you know, there's a difference between being legal and being lawful.   Mhmm. Those are not the same. Okay?   And law is like common law,   real law. Legal is man made law, basically. K?   There's 2 types of crimes. There's there's,   crime, mala n se and malaprohibita.   Mala n se is a crime in itself with another injured party.   Mala Prohibita   is man made laws like administrative state regulations.   Right. K? Okay. And when you put forth the common law birth certificate of John Smith's,   you're taking your decision as to which laws you wanna live under,   and you're giving them a lawful solution that breaks the presumption   of their legal fraud.  

I think that's what's happening.  

[01:32:31] Unknown:

Yes. No. I think you must be close with that thing. I mean, I've I think about,   what we have to do in the world as well, just outside of this specific topic. It's very important. Obviously, key part of it. In terms of obviously, anybody looking around with what's happening in your neck of the woods across Europe   sees that our nations are being destroyed from within, with people who purport to be our leaders in our government, but are not. They're working obviously for another agency, or they're controlled by controlled by 1. They have no decision in it. We have to be demoralized by them basically parachuting people into leadership positions across Great Britain, what's left of it, you know, who are clearly not of our stock. They're clearly not us. They're clearly, sort of, you know, financial advisers who were taking their instructions from further up the tree. So the idea of being able to get away from that, to have them have no purchase upon you, is is very important. And for example,   I want to develop,   a media company over here,   but I don't want   to register it with their registering authorities.  

I don't want it to have a bank account.   By a company, I mean a company of men and women working as a team on things.   Right?   And to look at all of this, I mean, there's a thing as well. I don't know. This is just a general question. It's kind of   maybe off to one side of what you're talking about.   Are you familiar with and I'm not, by the way. I'm just I I know of the phrase, but the full operations of it. Of it. But were these things called private members associations?  

[01:33:57] Unknown:

I was I was gonna bring that up. Yes. We know about them, and and it is I don't know how if you've got that in England where you got access to that, but that's an answer to your question.   And if you could change your status   and be a national behind that, they can't pierce it. They can't pierce it.  

[01:34:15] Unknown:

I mean, I I'm I'm very much at the point now. This is just where I'm at with my work life, where I'm ready. I've got the appetite for something like this. It's been a long time coming. I mean, I don't know. For me, the last 10 or 15 years were really about a lot of research, a lot of reading, and trying to simplify that so I could talk to a man in the pub about things and not having good sleep. They're still very very difficult, by the way, because there's such a big gap. There's just a colossal gap, you know, you get angry at first, but when you stand back and look at it, you go, good grief. It's obvious why this guy thinks this because for 35 years he's been watching TV. Why would he think anything else? He's bound to think that. Sure. So it's a massive challenge. No. That  

[01:34:53] Unknown:

that's the bad news. The good news is you don't need to get everybody. All you need to get is 10, 15%. Remember, it was only 3% of the Americans that wanted to fight old King George to separate from you. Most people in the country did not I know they didn't wanna go along. And see here, we don't need a whole bunch of people. We just need about 10 10%, maybe less, maybe a little more. I think if we can ever get the message on a big platform, we're gonna have a lot more than that. But you see, here's the deal. Once you remove yourself from the federal system, you can remove yourself from the tax system, and they can't say a thing about it.   So now you're stopping   the influx of money to pay the bond holders, which complicates their situation.  

And in our country,   and this is what I started all this on, was something my teacher, my law teacher came up with. We there's a thing called revocation of election.   And when you change status,   you can apply to the IRS   and get 3 years that you've just paid back.  

[01:35:57] Unknown:

Well, that should be a motivator for a lot of people if they were aware of it. Of course, it's creating this awareness, isn't it? An under Yes.  

[01:36:04] Unknown:

Understanding of things. Listen. 1 we were talking about it. I didn't used to talk about it on the show because John and Glenn ended up in federal prison not because of any of this, just to get them off the street. And but it's a stigma. Okay? So I didn't really talk about it. I talked about what I really know and pioneered.   And so but one day it hit me Because what happened was when we did that, we didn't know about the Secretary of State connection.   So we were not sending our affidavits to the head guy   and then going through revocation of election. So the IRS honored the first couple. But when they figured out what was going on, they started giving us all $500 frivolous filing penalties.  

Those are $5,000   penalties now. And so one day on the air, we're talking about it, and they hit me. I said, well, hold it. We got the key to the mansion because now we know to do it with the Secretary of State. They can't refuse it. And now you come back to the IRS, and they can't not pay you because the IRS's rule is you can't sue the IRS unless the tax has been paid. Well, here the tax has already been paid. It's in the regulations.   If they don't pay, you take them to federal court. They don't want this whole thing coming out in federal court.   They'll pay you in a heartbeat.  

Okay?   And so it hit me. Well, one of our guys, very bright, went off and did this without even telling me about it. And he came on back on the show.   Paul, he got a 6 figure   amount of money back,   a sizable   sum of money. He paid a lot of taxes. Okay? Mhmm.   So now we're doing that for people and offering that service, and we're gonna do it for them. And, what we, I ask is we get 15% of what they get back. Let's found money for them.   That's good. And that would keep you in cheeseburgers for quite a while, I would imagine, wouldn't it? Well, it will. And it'll help Paul. We'll get new equipment, so we can get all the modern stuff we need to do to run the network and all that. Yeah. Fantastic. That's great.  

[01:38:07] Unknown:

I'm here with Roger Sales,   Paul at this live. We've got about 20 minutes to go. If anybody feels the urge to call in, you can always chat, of course. I'm looking at the chat comments and the Rumble chat. But if you get the urge, you want to call in, ask a question   probably or make a comment,   you can do so by going   paulenglishlive.comforward/call,   and it will bring you into the studio where we're at. So don't be shy. Oh, no, may maybe call it and be shy, that might be quite interesting.  

[01:38:35] Unknown:

Yeah, that would be cool. Koi, you could be coy too. Oh, yeah. Shying and coir.  

[01:38:42] Unknown:

I mean, the it's I've really enjoyed this because at times, I've got a little bit lost with what you've said, and this has happened to me quite a few times. It's simply to do with terms, phrases, you know, trying to understand the thing.   But the the gist of the birth birth certificates, I'm very clear on,   and finding a process to get out of it.  

[01:39:02] Unknown:

I I'm gonna work on the basis that John Smith has one. Yeah. But this whole thing, like, I would like a common law company. Why can't I have 1? Like, why can't You can't have one. What well, you can't have one because you're their property and you don't have access to the common law. You go through this change. You got access to it again, and you have it.  

[01:39:20] Unknown:

Okay. So there's a formal process. What we're saying here, I've got to stress test this and see. There's a formal process I can enter into that will take me out of the voluntary servitude that I've been deceived into as, you know, having Yes. That condition, and put me back in the conscious,   status of operating under God's law, under common law, outside of their system. Yes.  

[01:39:41] Unknown:

One of my students sent me a a JPEG of an a document from England,   and there were 6 different political statuses at the bottom. Yes. There are. I've seen that. There was an image of it to me. National. Yep. Yep. It's English National, and I guarantee you that's the one you want.   K? Now I think   my just reading between the lines and how they duplicate things, I think what you'd wanna do is take that common law birth certificate   and apply for some sort of a passport.   Whoever issues passports,   because they are the determination of your political status,   and if you don't change it, it it's presumed you're in the surf one. I think that's probably the person you're gonna wanna deal with, whoever is the equivalent of the secretary of state in our country, the foreign minister, whatever. I don't know. But that's just a supposition.  



[01:40:33] Unknown:

But I think it's a good educated guess. Okay? Yeah. No. That's good. That's really good. I mean, one of the listeners here, regular listeners, has been putting for you, Eric, Eric von Essex. He he runs a a radio,   project called, Fockemhole.   You might have heard me talk about that. That's the English sense of it. Yeah. Yeah. It's good. And, I think he was he mentioned a few weeks ago that he had got into issuing his own passports, which I always think is a delightful thing to do.   But, your point your pointer is is really well taken. Also, another little comment here, which is off beam, but I'm gonna mention it anyway because he's good. Did you ever play, do you ever play golf, Roger? Are you a golfer ever in the game? And I I   love the game. I don't don't have at least I didn't, when I was younger, have much of the temperament for it. Oh, good. I'm glad to hear that because I didn't have it too. Somewhere somewhere in East Sussex, there's a tree that still got my Jack Nicklaus driver 50 feet up it.  

I'm serious.   I just threw the club right in there. The club went up into the tree and it never came down. They said, are you gonna go get it? I said, no. It's useless. What's the point? I just need it. I don't want it. I don't want it. You know, you could be gone all day. You come home and the wife goes, how'd you play? I go, don't talk to me. I know. It's not good. But there's a little comment here from Warren. I just read this. It's nice. This it says, Roger's voice is strikingly similar to Dave Maher.   I don't know if you're familiar with him. No. The famous golfer   who used to commentate on TV at the US Masters Tournament.  



[01:41:57] Unknown:

My favorite, the Masters.   I was in Georgia for 30 years. I have attended the Masters.   I went to a Saturday round. We got the Georgia Broadcasting pat press passes 1 Saturday. Right. It was one of the most spectacular events in my life. Okay? I'm gonna tell you, that beautiful spot,   20, 25000   people,   not one bit of trash   anywhere on the ground.  

[01:42:23] Unknown:

Never. It's marvelous. It's marvelous. It's like,   the equivalent in tennis, of course, is Wimbledon with this precision   that is absolutely captivating on TV, the Masters, you know, because it's a break for a few days. I do watch sport, you know, people you should not want to watch sport, but it's all about degree. I think, you know, people get obsessed with it and push everything else out their life. It's a worry. I'm not really like that. To me, it's like a a little break and I sort of you get revived. Of course, it's not far off, is it? When is it? Is it April that that this occurs? So we're not too far. Yeah. Mhmm. Yeah. So will you be going this year? Will you get on the jet and fly No. I'm in I'm  

[01:42:56] Unknown:

in Ecuador. We don't have very many golf courses   down here, and I don't play. So Yeah. But, I love to watch the masters. I really do. I remember the first time when I was in the record business, I had to fly into Augusta. There's a very big radio station over there called WBBQ,   and I had to fly in to see them. And I didn't wasn't even conscious of the masters.   And the airport's called Bush Field over there. And I flew in on a commercial jet, and as they're landing, there's, like, there's a 100 frigging Lear Jets all over the place,   both sides of the runway, solid Lear Jets and Yeah. Jet streams and all this stuff. It's amazing.  



[01:43:32] Unknown:

It is. Yeah. It's wonderful. It's just I think it doesn't you don't even need to like golf. I don't think you do. To see whenever any event is screwed together so well,   anything, it doesn't matter what it is, if it's put together really well, you go it makes you feel good. You go, look at that. Look at all that competence,   organizing that, making it work like clockwork. It's extremely pleasing to that a bit like I was talking earlier on about this guy making watches.  

[01:43:56] Unknown:

Amazing stuff, you know. So we Yeah. I'm very interested. Why you go, why are you all excited about that? I go, because it's so well done. Look at the standards. I love to watch it. It's just so beautiful. You can't watch it and not appreciate the beauty of that course. No. Bobby Jones laid a masterpiece course in there. K. Now do you know that when you're playing on it in the spring, it's ryegrass that grew over the winter, and during the whole summer, it's all browned out. Did you know that?  

[01:44:23] Unknown:

No. Yeah. No. I didn't know that. No. It's Yeah. Right. Right. That's the reason that's the reason why they play at that time of the year, for it. So it's it's just absolutely perfect, you know. And all those flowers, here I am a grown man going on about flowers, but it adds to it. It puts it puts this sort of magical atmosphere into the whole space, and it's wonderful. It's, it's very stunning. Now as we get off into sport, we got about 10 minutes left.  

[01:44:48] Unknown:

And and I've put a assignment on the back burner for a private consult   I had 20 minutes ago, so I hope she's not aggravated.   But I wanted to stay here with you guys and cover as much of this as we could because I've been chomping at the bit to get at your audience and lay this out in front of them. This is so important. This is everything.   Everything they're doing is here. This is the axis of the Rothschild Rockefeller   power route. The fact that they've got you in a property right, now they can create a whole money supply,   and now they can put a whole institute of agencies   to make man made laws   to govern you. Mhmm. And they couldn't do either one if they didn't have a property right in you. That's why this is important to them.  

It's the crux of everything.  

[01:45:36] Unknown:

Mhmm. So the the complication   of it, which does exist, we've you see,   you're very familiar with this. We've covered in an hour and 50 minutes, or just under a lot of material. Probably, I guess, from your perspective in a surface level way, which is fine. Because first time through this,   it's challenging in terms of the the way the different components work together. But I'm keen for simplicity at this stage, purely for my own sanity. You know what I mean? So that I can get a handle of the whole thing. Sure. And we've we've mentioned this over and over, so I'm not gonna repeat it again just now. I might do before the show. So but the that we're saying basic there is a path to take yourself out of their system. They are very interested in you not taking that path.   They're very, very interested in it because their entire system is built on your voluntary servitude because they're basically leaching everything of their control system out of your status. See? Yeah. They can't say no  

[01:46:33] Unknown:

because what settled laws you live under is your choice, not theirs.   If they say no, they're open tyrants   and they know what happens to open tyrants.   You're putting them in checkmate here. There's no way out for them but to recognize it.  

[01:46:50] Unknown:

Of course. I I mean, I agree with you here in this conversation that that's the case. I can see the logic of that. In the real world,   my observation is that they have such a yeah. But what I was gonna say is they have such a control over the process.   For example, we've just had an example with this   Trump thing. I saw his lawyer, this woman,   the other day at the microphone. I'm not fully familiar with what's going on. But, basically,   I mean, to use the term a travesty of justice is almost sort of ridiculous in a way. But but the way she was describing the process that she couldn't even defend   him because all of her you go, well,   my mind goes, then that wasn't a court of law. No trial actually took place. Right? So it's all null and void. And it's the language is available to us, but it's not being mustered because I think,   to a great degree,   and this is the part of the breaking out of it.  

I've I've I've got part of it as well. We are basically   we're trained literally like a train going down the tracks   to work within that system even when we think we're actually going against it. So but the actual truth is that a court case didn't take place because they couldn't defend them. There was that situation   in Germany   several years ago. I mean, we we might have touched on this the other way when I had Dennis on. There was a a defense lawyer. I forgot who she was defending now,   but he's been prosecuted by the German,   government because of his comments about World War 2, etcetera, etcetera, in particular areas. Sylvia Stolz, she was convicted and sentenced, I think, for 2 years for   defending him too vigorously.  

What is that? So you go, okay. This is not a law court.   This is not this is a tyranny.   They are open to It's legal.   Yeah. Uh-huh. It's where we go then. Wed this is where we go then. And we've got situations building up in our country. In America, they have the arrival of huge numbers of people that we know should not be here, who are not being brought here even necessarily for their benefit, but to actually reduce this entire process down to nothing and create more confusion. Well, the reason they could charge her with something like that is because she's one of these serfs, and they can do that. If she's operating under law, they can't.   So basically, they're saying, you're our property. You might not know that, but you're our property, and we're gonna do with you what we like. So because you're our property, we say that you're defending too vigorously. So we're gonna lock you up. Right. You you Yep. Broken piece of our property. You're a piece of our property Yep. That's malfunctioned.  

So we're gonna correct your malfunctioning by putting you away for 2 years. That makes sense. I think she's right. Exactly correct.   And I guess the guy that's seen that or delivered that upon her would be aware of this, and therefore, they stand in a kind of authoritative way and communicate in that way Right. Because they're going, no. Right? The base of all this, you're a voluntary you're involuntary servitude. You're you're a servitude. We gotta we own you, and we can do anything you want with you because we have a property right in you, and somewhere along the line, you agreed to it. Mhmm.   That makes sense. Got that. That's really useful. I've had a big sort of penny drop with that. That's very useful. Mhmm. Because when it See, if you go back into the lawful illegal part of this and what you see it's that resident word,  

[01:50:00] Unknown:

citizen of the United States and resident at the end of 14th Amendment. If you're this and this, you're this. You're a citizen of the United States and a state wherein you reside.   Well, if you go to all of the administrative state, 600 plus agencies,   and go look in their little handbook called the Code of Federal Regulations,   For there's 49 of them. 49 of them, the jurisdictional   statement is residence   because they can throw the broad net and not only get citizens,   but legal residents, green card holders.   But only in one title do they have both, and that's title 26,   income tax.  

And there, they call the national   a non resident alien.  

[01:50:45] Unknown:

We got some callers. We got some callers, Roger.   I don't have much time. You better go. I know. I know. Don't worry. They speak very quickly or very slowly. Okay. Sussex man, welcome to the show.  

[01:50:56] Unknown:

Oh, good evening,   Paul and, Roger.  

[01:51:00] Unknown:

Good evening.  

[01:51:02] Unknown:

Very interesting about,   change of status. I don't know if you know you know,   but it's already being done in this,   country. There's an organization   called,   English Counties   United,   and evidently,   it's organized   by,   Anna Von   Wrightsinger.   I presume you've heard of her, have you? I have.  

[01:51:28] Unknown:

I have.   My my comment   my comment is that Anna doesn't know what she's fighting. She doesn't understand it's the feudal system, and she's got a very similar thing in our country called the assemblies.   And I really don't agree with her approach in a lot of things she does. So just so you know.  

[01:51:46] Unknown:

Yes. Well, I I've queried a few things, and also,   where they're appointing   people, they're not, ethnic Britons, which in my view,   they should be our own people   taking charge.   But basically,   other people have done it independently   of her,   and it's all to do with the birth certificate.  

[01:52:12] Unknown:

Mhmm. Well, you see what we've got that she doesn't understand because she doesn't understand the feudal system and what's going on with this. They think the birth certificate creates the condition.   The birth certificate does not create the condition. It represents the condition   that the nurse at the hospital told that mom that baby's our property.   The baby didn't have a birth certificate yet, and the nurse, not the administrator,   not the doctor, the nurse knew that the baby was property already.  

[01:52:44] Unknown:

Right.   But I think the way they do it here,   because they're in this cup there's 2 certificate. There's certificate of being born,   and then there's the birth certificate when you were registered.   On the birth certificate,   it's only got your   Christian names,   first names as you call them.   But then the state adds the surname,   which as you know stands for security   name.   And that is a corporation.   And,   then that's added to the other certificate.   Whereas if you are free from the state,   you only have your 2 Christian names on it. And it's basically   removing that, and then you're not part of the   the system.  



[01:53:39] Unknown:

Oh, you know, this is you're talk you get to talk about complexities. Now we're talking complexities.   Okay?   And I would disagree with you that it's a corporation.   You're a serf. You're either free or you're a slave. There's only 2 statuses.   It's not a corporation. You don't have bylaws and everything else. That's my opinion. Okay? And I wish we had time, Paul. One of my students in Austin, Texas   went to the hospital where he had 2 daughters born   and got the whole process   on how the birth certificate is set up and issued, and I just don't have time to give it to you today. But it totally proves my familiar with that. Yeah. I'm I'm semi familiar with that. I've forgotten his name now. He's,   very strong Brian Howard. Brian. Brian Howard. Yes. I remember. And when I'll tell you this. When they finally get the information to the Bureau of Vital Statistics,   they print the birth certificate   and they put it in a bank safe with armed guards   24 hours 7 days a week.  



[01:54:38] Unknown:

Mhmm.   Alright.  

[01:54:40] Unknown:

Because it represents   you as a warehouse receipt. The paper represents you and that future value.   They're they're collateralizing.  

[01:54:49] Unknown:

We're coming to the end of the show,   although there is a post show after show. So we're gonna be leaving WBN 324   in about a minute and a half, something like that.   But we'll carry on on Rumble. Roger, you're welcome to stay. Stay. I know you might have other commitments. I can't. I'm I'm I'm sorry. I am You got this consult. Don't worry. We've and, we'll carry on for a little while after this show, but, that's that's kind of where we're at today. Roger, I want to thank you very much for coming along. It's been brilliant. It was my pleasure, Paul. We'll have to have you back again and go through this a little bit more, which would be great. You just you just offer and I'll be here. Okay?   No. That'll be fantastic.  

I,   Sussex man, thanks for calling in. N y Paul's on standby. I think that's our usual suspect, is it not? Uh-uh. Okay.  

[01:55:37] Unknown:

Yeah. Usual. Well, he can, he can fill in if y'all get into this. Paul understands this enough. He can fill in some of the answers on it. So I know he can. Absolutely. No. That's that's great.  

[01:55:47] Unknown:

And, thanks everybody for being here for this, first two hours of the show. I suppose I have to say because we've got into this habit of having a a post show show that runs on Unrumble. So if you want to carry on listening, head over to paulenglishlive.com   and click on the Rumble tag, and you'll still be able to hear us going on for a little while longer, I would imagine, on this topic. Everybody's welcome to call in. But Roger, thanks for this week, and, look forward to seeing you on here again very very soon.  

[01:56:13] Unknown:

Paul, you're one of my favorite people and I cherish the invite and I'll look forward to the next one. I like you even more now. This is fantastic. You're definitely coming back. Brilliant. Well done.  

[01:56:37] Unknown:

And we are clear.   We're clear from,   from the radio stations. They kicked us off. They've sent us out back to Rumble. So,   if you're still with us on Rumble, yeah, marvellous and probably still on Global Voice Network or something like that, courtesy of Paul.   But, Yeah. That was Roger there. I've known him for quite a while. That was a very chunky,   very information heavy show. So if you're a bit bewildered out there with it all,   you're not alone. But I think, I think we got to the gist of this whole thing that there's a process available for us to change our status   and,   possibly in one fell swoop, we remove their ability to manipulate us in practically all the other areas of our life that they're that they're doing. Anyway, Paul Paul b, welcome to the show.  



[01:57:24] Unknown:

Hi. Welcome.   It's a pleasure to be here, and   that is, you know, informational   shows like this is why God made archives.  

[01:57:35] Unknown:

I I guess so. Yeah. You'll be able to yeah. So anybody that missed it will obviously be able to get the rest of the show on the podcast and stuff like that. So that's obviously coming up.   But Sussex man, some of your points there. You'd mentioned to me, of course, about this counties thing or whatever.   And I've seen a few question marks against that as well.   But there must be I mean, there's another chap as well. Who's that other guy that's going around talking about common law a lot? Do you know you know of him,   Sussman, I think?  



[01:58:02] Unknown:

Yeah. I can't think of his name. I know, but I I know him. There's Edelman.   Mhmm. Yeah.   Where is the other one?  

[01:58:14] Unknown:

Gone out of my mind there. So don't worry. Yeah. There are quite there's a few that have kicked they've kicked up, haven't they, over the last sort of couple of years   dealing with these things. So I I personally have to really start putting some time aside to actually get stuck into this because,   as I was saying, the idea of a company   that's structured under common law, I don't want to be in, you know, why can't we do things entirely out their system? And this seems to me that anybody that would be in a company like that must have gone through this process   to remove themselves from the whatever the term is over here, I'm happy with voluntary servitude. I can see that that makes a lot of sense logically about how we got to this point. Then everybody that that would work in it or be associated with it must go through that process. So that gives   that's something for you all to do in your holiday break, everyone. It's still listening. That's what we gotta do. We gotta get full we've gotta get out of their system, you know, and then begin to re restore our nation properly.  



[01:59:09] Unknown:

I don't know if it's about   John Smith.   You know, he,   we were trying to get out of registering   thing yet he wants you to register your birth, common law birth certificate   with him. So in effect, he comes owner of your property   owner of you. Mhmm. Whereas in the old days, it was only recorded.   It was recorded in the local church.   So So  

[01:59:41] Unknown:

so do we need to restore a system of recording and come up with what we mean by that? You know, what does this record or this recording look like? It's a handwritten note or it's signed in wet ink? That kind of stuff, we're gonna have to get that precise because that's obviously   the levels of precision that they they've applied to us to create all this torturous   complexity, whereas we just wanna crack on and get living our lives.   But if there's a way of doing that, then that's what we need to are there any churches left though, Chris? This is the big question. Are there any?  

[02:00:10] Unknown:

Well, I trace my ancestors.   Surprisingly,   the,   churchyard   in Culham,   Sparkshire,   on the on the borders of Oxfordshire,   it's full of Peds and Reeds. And,   I saw the entries  

[02:00:29] Unknown:

Yes. And,  

[02:00:30] Unknown:

they're all written in hand, you know, so and so and that's all.   You know who the father was, and I think, well, they had   the father's status. You know? I think mine was yeoman farmer or something like that. Oh, nice. I like that. That's good.   But when I went again to the second time to take my with my relatives to see it,   we asked to see the birth rates. They were all it's all been taken away. It's all gone to the Bodiam Library, so they've disappeared.  

[02:01:03] Unknown:

Right.   And then I'll I'll explain if we had these records, if these records existed   in churches doing this thing,   would it be a case that if you wanted to know things about people, you would have to just go there, wouldn't you? Wouldn't you have to do that?   Yeah. Well, you have to go down to that chair. You have to get in your car on the back of your horse and go and actually see it. That kind of stuff. Oh, I mean, with modern technology,  

[02:01:28] Unknown:

there'd be no problem having   a online record, you know, so you could look it up.   Yeah. You know, they could digitize it as well, but   I think   you need a hand,   copy.   Because some I put a post up, on the one of the blogs   about how they want to destroy   our history. They were all the,   ancient records,   births.   They're going to digitise them all unless they're important   people.   Right. And that's England and Wales. And of course, a lot of, history is in Welsh anyway.  

[02:02:09] Unknown:

So it's another way of take taking away our history. Yeah. Is this that story recently where they're gonna try and start destroying lots of records pre 18 60 or something like that? Yeah.   Okay.  

[02:02:21] Unknown:

So we lose our roots, you know.  

[02:02:25] Unknown:

Well, that's the surest way to destroy a people,   so they   say. Yes.   Absolutely.  

[02:02:31] Unknown:

And the other problem, you know,   with John Smith,   I I think a lot of where I hear a lot of his cases go through,   but in the end of the day, they can stop it because you can only   claim common law   if you can prove you're a free man   living on land. Well, we can't because most of us,   even if we own our property,   it's registered with   the land registry. So we don't actually own it and technically,   so we're not living on the land. We're in the fictitious   ship lost at sea. What do we do about that then? What are we gonna do about that? Have to try and get a bit of land somewhere even if it's a postage stamp.  

[02:03:17] Unknown:

So yeah. And then it's it's down to who owns that land, isn't it, I suppose? So isn't this when people sell you? They can sell you a square yard of   some glen in in Scotland or something for 300 Yeah. Quid and you go now you can call yourself Lord Sons of the Microglen   and all this kind of stuff. Do we have to do something like that?  

[02:03:35] Unknown:

What a What a problem. Know that. Yeah.  

[02:03:39] Unknown:

Isn't there   isn't there a bond or or an affidavit   of   solvency,   that   you swear under oath that you   physically have 21 pieces of silver,   and it's lawful money. It's real money. There's   there's no way that   your entire wealth is tied up in debt currency.  

[02:04:08] Unknown:

Oh, yes.   Which I understand,   you know, if you make out the trust in the official system,   you have to use real money, you know, gold sovereign from somewhere, you know. Mhmm.   Right. As as   as equity.  

[02:04:25] Unknown:

Oh, but just a couple of things off the top of my head at the hip you guys have been talking. I've just been sitting here with things swimming around at my brain.   First of all,   your   your explanation   of the surname   being the surety name   is brilliant. I never thought of that. I have no idea if it's true or not, but it makes complete sense with every fiber fiber of my being. So the root is the same word.  

[02:04:54] Unknown:

S u r r for surname and s u r e t y for security. Yes? Yeah. And also,  

[02:05:01] Unknown:

in old English,   it's coming from nay me. In other words, this is not my name.   My real name is my Christian names.   As I was I was trying to tell   Roger. I mean, I know he's right. There's probably more to it, but,   I know from what I've heard   on our system,   your surname is is is owned by the state.   And if you change your name, I know somebody who wanted to change their name, you can only change your surname.   You're not allowed to change your Christian names.  

[02:05:41] Unknown:

Because they don't hold your Christian names permanent.   So surname means surety not me.  

[02:05:49] Unknown:

Yeah.   Well, it's your fictitious self.   Yeah. Yeah.  

[02:05:57] Unknown:

Yeah. Surety,   nah, me.   Yeah. Exactly.   Oh oh, and and another another clarification.   Slaves   register.   Sovereigns   record.  

[02:06:12] Unknown:

Yes. Is that right?   So I we I'm gonna need some notes here. We need a we I need this notebook.   I'm serious because actually, each point in and of itself is relatively simple and straightforward, isn't it? But it's getting them all lined up in the right order   to see where it's taking you. You know, you've got these steps. I mean,   I'm having a big clunk click around this tonight. That's the first time I've Okay. Spoken on and off with Roger for years about this kind of thing. But my   it's not my cynicism about the content of what he's saying. My cynicism, if that's the right word, has always been about the way that they're able to overpower us through bullying,   these sorts of things. How do you avoid that? But that said,   that's a speculation on my part. And if it's possible to go through a process   civilly, in a civilised way, and slowly but surely knock off these impediments that are stopping us, and we can find a way of doing that,   then that's it. And maybe, Chris, there are individuals in England that have already done it. So if anybody knows one   Yeah. And wants to send these details to me, I'd like to interview them. I'm serious. So I live in Sussex.  

Is there?   Yeah. Well, that's a job for you, Chris, tomorrow morning. Then you're gonna have to rustle him up for me and we're gonna have to get hold of him because that would   be very to go through the pragmatic steps that have been taken so that we can provide a sort of, you know, a ground based of this is what was done, this is how you do it, this is the end result, now we need 10,000,000 people to do it. Are you ready to rock and roll? Let's go. If if this is the way to do it, we do.  

[02:07:43] Unknown:

And,   you know, you know our mutual friend in the past, Peter Gunn.   I do. Yes. Yeah. I was when I spoke to him about a year   ago,   known to him for a long time,   he was telling me of some,   friend of his in the group   who'd worked it all out, how to do it. And he went up to the,   Queen's   bench as it was then. It's King's bench there.   And went in and,   he knew the word, you know, what to say.   And he claimed,   you know, money from his QCEP   fee account.   Right. And they, well, they come to agreement and said, oh,   Peter Gunn said he should have asked for the lot, but they said, we'll give you,   15,   1,000,010,000   pounds a month.  



[02:08:40] Unknown:

When did this happen? So do I need to get pizza on? Is that what you're saying? Yeah. Okay.   I better call him up. We better go through this. He's finding ways to really get the points across effectively. Maybe I'm just   physiological   aversion to this because I just associate anything that they say with stuff I don't want in my life, which is probably asinine really looking at it. But if there is a way through and it looks as though there clearly is or there's certainly   it's certainly worth spending some time in it because it's a constructive thing to do as opposed to I'm just it's a shout out to everybody that's tuned in and listening.   We must not spend too much time dwelling on all the anxious awful news and we need to spend an awful lot more time on working towards things like this or whatever it is that, you know I'm probably sounding a bit of bossing people around. I don't mean to, but I really do think that this is important that we change the sort of   the feeling for what we're doing. We we know that we're in a bad   situation,   but I think dwelling on it and to the exclusion of doing constructive things is basically gonna guarantee that those bad situations are gonna happen.  

Whereas, by taking constructive steps like this, so and and it doesn't matter what it is, you know, people are growing their own food, those sorts of activities,   which are back for the benefit of you and your own people, your immediate family and friends and relations are really really good things to do. They're excellent things to do. They're   things that we need to be doing more of and I'm I'm really saying this to address myself actually, to get myself sorted out, you know. So, yeah. And I was saying also, Paul  

[02:10:11] Unknown:

and and Paul,   you know,   if you look at the bible, it's all been about   judgement when people have been breaking the law, which we are doing now.  

[02:10:24] Unknown:

Mhmm.  

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There are a lot of groups now,   you know, working on the common law   and just by their own rules,   beating them. So I think we're studying the law more.   Mhmm.   So I think,   you get God's blessing, so to speak, who will protect us in our efforts.   Yeah. Because we're trying to get back to the law.   Whereas the, other people just accept whatever they say it's If it's the law or they agree, it's the law. Yeah. And and as Roger   rightly said,   the law's fixed. You can't alter it.   You can make rules and regulation   regulations, what are called statutes,   provided they don't,   contravene the   basic law of the land. And that's why it's called the common law   until William the conqueror came along with his,   you know, retinue   Yeah. Of that tribe   And,   introduced,   Shatter   and Star Lord.  

Yes. And,   as a consequence of that,   whereas before they couldn't   take your house away from you,   they could now if you if you were in debt.   Yep. So  

[02:11:48] Unknown:

And that's where that that's where that phrase, an Englishman's home is his castle, originated in the previous situation where it was inviolable.   Because I I understood that if you were married and had children, but you turned out to be a robber or you did something wrong,   then if they took the that your house off of you to pay some perceived damages or whatever, it would turf your wife and children out into the street, which would, of course, begin the process of breeding an underclass   of desperate vagabonds,   which they didn't want. So they didn't do that because they were sensible.  

But once they changed that with the Chatel laws, they they said, alright, we'll seize your house in lieu of payment for this, that, and the other. And that, of course Mhmm. Takes out the foundation of any person's life and no doubt amplified crime.   It would have done it would have done the exact opposite. But, of course, I think that they would have wanted that because then they can create other forces to regulate crime and get paid for it. This is part of the process, I guess.  

[02:12:41] Unknown:

Yeah. And it's quite a bit Another fact Sorry.  

[02:12:46] Unknown:

No. Go ahead.  

[02:12:48] Unknown:

I was going to say another factor was the reformation   where   they it was the guys to steal people's lands and, you know,   on the guys of,   religious grounds, you know. Yes. And they all enriched themselves, so that's when we got our un poor underclass  

[02:13:08] Unknown:

following that. Yeah. Mhmm. Yeah. The devastation as it as it was. Cobbit so rightly calls it, not the reformation, but the devastation, which is what it was.   Absolutely.   I mean, I was up north as I said earlier. And I just I passed some big abbeys,   which were all I I saw one on the documentary where it was absolutely gutted   under Henry at that time. And it's still standing, most of it. It's 500 years old, you know, and it's still there. I drove past it the other day on Monday. It was quite an amazing thing. Sorry, Paul. I was talking  

[02:13:43] Unknown:

of you. I don't I don't mean to beat a dead horse here, but, I have to go back to, registering   versus recording.   Now when you are standing in your own power and you're standing on your own land, you record   your property.   You're claiming   your property, and you are claiming the right to protect it.   When you register an automobile,   you are asking for   the government to protect it for you, to prove that you own it,   to continue to provide   roads that are safe to operate it on, but   in doing so,   you transfer ownership over to the government. They say, oh, yeah. Okay. We'll protect your beneficial   ownership,   but we're going to have   title in a lodium   on it.  

So we won't take it from you,   but Yeah. We'll guarantee that you'll continue to be able to use it. And it's the same thing with the home. You register a deed for a property or a piece of real estate, and and estate means not true ownership.   What you're doing is you're saying,   please protect my home.   The local police, they patrol the neighborhoods, the areas.   The fire department is dispatched. If you have a fire   Mhmm. If you have a problem with a neighbor who's encroaching on your homeowner rights   or privileges,   whatever,   you can call the codes officer or you can call the police, and you have somebody   to act in your stead   to protect your rights.  



[02:15:22] Unknown:

Yes. Whereas  

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if you record the ownership of the property and you hold title in allodium to property,   you are also claiming the right to protect it even   to death.   And therein lies the difference.   Slaves   pass   the buck to the government   to take care of them in a nanny state fashion,   where sovereign   original   people,   they claim that right for themselves.  

[02:15:56] Unknown:

Yes. So Yeah. No. Are we being We've been trained to be slaves, but sorry, Chris.  

[02:16:02] Unknown:

You have to have your when you buy your property,   you know, you need to make you have to buy it as a Lloyd or it's difficult getting it a Lloyd or because you one person's buying a registered   property from another.   Mhmm. I mean, a good there's a good example of that, Paul, new near you. You know where that road,   the a 27   comes up to Arendelle?   Yes. The double   the dual carriageway comes to abrupt end. It does. Yeah. Well,   they'd already planned it to go through,   but the duke of Norfolk, who   who resides   in Arundel Castle   said, no. You can't. I own the land outright, and they couldn't even compulsory purchase   And that's why I came to Australia.  



[02:16:57] Unknown:

I've driven on that a lot. By the way, Paul, if you don't know what Arundel Castle is, look it up. It's beautiful. It's amazing castle, not far from where I live. Arundel,   Arundel Castle.   And it's owned by the Duke of Norfolk. Don't ask me why. Actually, there's some dodgy dealings in the history of that. That's why that's why Norfolk got it, isn't there, Chris? There is something dodgy down the line there.   And, you know, what's the guy Norfolk do in in the thing in West Sussex? I don't know what's that all about. Well, you dig it up but the castle is magnificent.   It's, it's all in I work fully working order with the men with Pycnos.  

It hasn't got it hasn't got battle. Uh-huh. It actually does, but it's it's in tremendous condition. It is fantastic.  

[02:17:36] Unknown:

I've heard,   hearsay,   reports   that people in the US have purchased property. They purchased registered property,   and they purchased it for   $20   in lawful money Mhmm.   Plus   other valuable consideration.   Now, the seller   notifies the tax authority   that   they're no they sold it. They're they're no longer the owner of it. And the purchaser   never registers the   also falls off the Rolodex and address book of the police   and off the address book of the fire department. So if anything happens, you'd better be ready to take care of it yourself.  

[02:18:31] Unknown:

Yeah. That's interesting.   Mhmm. I mean, I don't think we have a system like that in the UK. Probably not. If you don't take   it, you know, if you register a property, it never comes off,   unless,   you know, somebody buys it, and then they, you know, they need the deed in order to purchase   it. So they get they don't get the original deed. They get a certified copy.   And I haven't heard of it falling off   in in in England, but that's a good system you got there in America.  

[02:19:08] Unknown:

Yeah. Sounds good. Now like I said, it's a hearsay account. I have not seen proof of it, but that's what I heard.  

[02:19:16] Unknown:

Gents, I I need to go do a task. And I think maybe we this has been quite an intense sort of show anyway with a lot of a lot of stuff and I really want to follow-up the theme. But I think it might be time to just,   if you're okay with it, we'll just call a a close to the post show Yeah. Because we're,   there's just those 3 here, which is fantastic. And it's not that I'm not enjoying it, but I have this little test I I must do now. I've I've delayed it for about 10 or 15 minutes because I've been so interested in what we've done. But I'd just like to say, everybody that's tuned in tonight, thank you very much for tuning in. We'll be back, of course, next Thursday.   And just by way of just my summary for this is, I think I've had the penny drop here. I've got the simple idea at the heart of it. I can see why there's so many complex things to brush out of the way or to deal with and to get to grips with.  

And really, I guess, Chris, because I'll be seeing you in real life at some point soon,   this this is definitely something that I want to talk to you about a bit more. Certainly, possibly, we're getting Peter Gunn on or somebody who can articulate these things from a UK perspective would be very useful,   because we can always bring Roger and, of course, Paul here. You I know you know a lot about this as well. So I think this is a good reference point because if if, as it appears,   it's gonna be a key part   of putting them back on their haunches and us leaving them, which is really what we're talking about, and leaving their system, come out of her, as we are told. This looks to be a major part of the process of coming out of a in actuality, not as a as a daydream,   but as a real measurable tangible thing.  

And,   apart from which, I I just think working on something like this that is constructive   is very healthy for us as opposed to trying to beat off negatives is to actually build a positive, which in this case, of course, gets rid of so many of the negatives that are bearing down upon us.  

[02:21:01] Unknown:

Well, I have a suggestion.   Mhmm. I've not don't do it with the 2 hour time limit of the Thursday show.   Let's schedule   a show on Sunday   with Paul English live dotcom with Global Voice Radio   with the whole of the resources of the Radio Ranch and its conference room. Mhmm.   Your, backroom studio   will get Raj Ron, and we'll get,   I'll be there for sure.   And we'll   just start the streams and just let it go until we have something out. It may take 2 to 3 hours.  

[02:21:39] Unknown:

And you were kinda wanting to do slapdash radio for a few hours on Sunday. Why not? You do. I am actually. I'm I'm very close to doing that. I think that would be a good idea, almost like a special on this thing. And we need to like we need plenty of music because it does require   a break every 20 or 30 minutes. These are sort of the new concepts in many ways, and it might well be worth using video. Not in terms of webcams. We don't want anything quite so frightening as that. But in terms of illustrating   points, I probably need to prep some   notes and things so that when we're talking about these ideas,   people have got something to read on Rumble, you know, when it's going through. Just a key to clue to clue and cue everybody in as to where we're at because   it is a labyrinthine sort of conversation. It it spreads into so many things, and staying focused and on track would be would make for better use of everybody's time. But I I am,   I am energised by this,   because I can see   I can see that it's valid. It brings into I mean, all the history that we're aware of, you can see this unifying thread through a lot of it, which is that it's all been the machinations to bring about   by hook or by crook and by whatever word is possible to put us back into this condition of   of feudalism and of enslavement, basically. Whether we volunteer for it or not, they're prepared to do anything for that.  

So,   yeah. No. I think it's a good idea, Paul. We should do that. We should definitely do something like that.  

[02:23:02] Unknown:

What I what I'm imagining   what I'm imagining is   to have the the full faith and function of the Global Voice Radio Network,   Paul English Live,   all the radio ranch in the conference room. We've got room for a 1000 people to call in and take an active part of the show. We're not limited to the to the studio back end.   And we have,   your Rumble channel, which,   we can run until you pull the plug. Yeah. I have a Rumble channel. I also have Odysee,   and I can also bring to bear,   home network dot TV, freedom nation dot TV, go live TV, and stream life dot tube. There's literally over a 1000000 unique listeners per month   on the latter 2 of those platforms.  

So   we can get this message out while we're hashing out something. And I think we all come together,   it's going to be the gonna be a bad day for the globalists.  

[02:24:04] Unknown:

Actually, it's a it's a   it's like a transatlantic.   I like the word transatlantic at the moment. I don't like the word trans, of course, because it's so stupid. Transatlantic is an old one, transatlantic travel.   And this is a transatlantic connection in many ways, and I think it could be very useful. There's a sort of different energy in the sense that if we can if I can muster up some more knowledge here on the UK Chris has got considerable amounts of of information, and I'm always thankful, Chris, when you call in and make these contributions. They're excellent.   And, we've got others. He's mentioned Peter Gunn. There are a few others. I'm gonna scout around and maybe have a chat with these people so that we could move the voices around. It make it more interesting for   hosts. Yeah. To get these different perspectives on things. So it would be worth taking a little while to set it up and get it get it, you know, polished a bit. That would be good. Yeah. A couple of couple of weeks, something like that. Yeah. Yeah. That could be done. A month. Cool. But instead of the slapdash radio hour, we'll have to call it the slap the stuffing out of the globalist hour.  

Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely.   But what did what was what was it Roger? For you hour. Yeah. What did Roger call himself as a radio jock? Smacky lips. Is that right? Yeah. I don't know how I can fit that in.   But listen, on that silly note, I am gonna wind up now. I think we gotta wind up. We're just coming up to 10:30 here. It's obviously 5:30 US Eastern. Paul, thanks for tuning up. Chris, as always, wonderful having you here and your contributions are excellent.   And for all the listeners and your comments throughout the show, of course, much appreciation and kudos. Always appreciate it. We've had a good lively large scale audience again on YouTube. We're getting above 60 70 listeners at certain points in the stream. So this thing's steadily and slowly and incrementally growing, which is all good, very encouraging for us here at this end. Thanks very much for everybody's contributions. As I said before, I'll be back next Thursday with something.   Hopefully, a cocked up start because it wouldn't be right if I don't cock it up at the beginning. And, I look forward to I look forward to having you join us again next week. So, God bless everyone. Have a good week. Keep well.  

If you wanna stay in contact during the week, there's the Telegram group. You can find a link to that on paulenglishlive.com.   That's growing quite nicely. There's over 60, maybe 70 people or something in there right now. So there's a whole series of chats taking place, slightly different tone at times, quite lively stuff, but there you go. It's a free speech world. Well, in parts, and that's one of the little parts of it. So, yeah. That's it for today. Paul,   thank you very much. Chris, thank you very much. Listeners, thank you very much. Yeah. Brilliant. No. That's great. And we'll be back again next week. So I'll just sign off. No music or anything. We're just gonna end the stream now. Thanks everybody. And as I said, I'll see you next week. Bye for now.