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What a gloriously shambolic start to Episode 114—timers firing, music miscuing, and Shakespeare nearly breaking in—before we settled into a lively Thanksgiving-night broadcast on WBN. I recapped last week’s absence (no, I wasn’t abducted by Othello) and then welcomed Steven from Milkalicious, a Manchester-area dairy farmer thrust into the deep end by processor consolidation and contracts gone sour. Steven laid out the reality on British dairying in 2024–25: processors dictating terms, phones that don’t get answered, and a 40% price gap between supplier classes. His answer? Go direct. He’s now selling raw and soon pasteurised milk to the public, with butter, cheese and ice cream on the way—proof that a farmer‑to‑family “food revolution” is moving from talk to traction. We also covered vending plans, local delivery ideas, and why short, local supply chains beat fragile, centralised systems every time.

In hour two, the indefatigable Monica Schaefer joined to discuss free speech, writing to prisoners (including Alfred), and Canada’s raw‑milk prohibitions. We roamed from platform failures and mask mandates to Magna Carta, cultural decay, and why rebuilding health begins with real food, real farms and real community. If you care about sovereignty—of your plate, your purse, your speech, and your soul—this one’s for you.

• 'Paul English Live' website: https://paulenglishlive.com
• 'Milkalicious' (Steven’s dairy brand; early-stage launch):
• 'Rumble' (livestream/chat referenced): https://rumble.com
• 'YouTube' (livestream/chat referenced): https://www.youtube.com
• 'Free Speech Monica' (Monica Schaefer’s site): https://freespeechmonika.com
• 'Truth and Justice for Germans' (site mentioned for Alfred’s address): https://truthandjusticeforgermans.com
• 'The Gulag Archipelago' by Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn (reference): https://www.penguin.co.uk/books/103/1033533/the-gulag-archipelago/9781784871512.html
• 'Gone with the Wind' by Margaret Mitchell (reference): https://www.panmacmillan.com/authors/margaret-mitchell/gone-with-the-wind/9781447271062
• 'Magna Carta' (UK National Archives resource): https://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/education/resources/magna-carta/
• 'William Marshal, Earl of Pembroke' (biographical reference): https://www.britannica.com/biography/William-Marshal-earl-of-Pembroke
• 'Folger Shakespeare' (texts for Othello, Hamlet, The Merchant of Venice): https://shakespeare.folger.edu
• 'Tucker Carlson' (interview referenced): https://www.tuckercarlson.com
• 'Piers Morgan' (interview referenced): https://www.piersmorgan.com
• 'Uber' (delivery idea discussed): https://www.uber.com
• 'Amazon' (delivery/logistics mentioned): https://www.amazon.com

[00:00:13] Unknown:

Well, hi there, and, welcome back. It's Thursday, November 20.   Mine, Andrew Carrington Hitchcock. And, that reminds me, I must get back in touch with Andy and try and get him on the show again at some point in the future. Maybe even before the year's out, if we're lucky. He's quite a busy chap these days.   Why no show? Well, I've been,   given an invite to an event which I really thought was on Wednesday, yesterday. But it turns out that it's today.   And I'm obviously going to it, otherwise, we Sorry about this everybody. I've got to live a replay from I wanna be coming through for some It's all about   William Shakespeare. Hang on. That's right. We're gonna be reenacting Othello,   Hamlet,   and The Merchant of Venice.  

We're not really. It's a gathering of people   for there we go. How stupid was that of me? That was a spectacular beginning, wasn't it? Wasn't that spectacular?  

[00:01:06] Unknown:

Eric, did you enjoy that? Did you enjoy that complete I enjoyed that and you're trying to outdo me with my cock ups. I thought I was a cock up champion, but now you're trying to beat me up and see this. We're in a in a race here. Because at least   How Well, when I start talking,   everything goes tits up. Generally, the the the I went off air the other week. I don't know. That was really weird. Oh, I know what happened. Hi, everybody.  

[00:01:35] Unknown:

You see, if I take a week off all my settings and then I come in, I think it's just the same as it was two weeks ago, and it wasn't. What an abysmal start. Absolutely abysmal start. Anyway, happy Thanksgiving if you're out there in America. You're listening. This is Paul English live just barely,   episode one one four. We're here back on WBN. I legged it last week. Had to go and listen to a Shakespeare lecture. It wasn't really about Shakespeare at all and I didn't have to go. I wanted to go. It was great actually. I went to see a chap called,   Alan Salisbury. Don't know if you've heard of him, Eric, but it was a lot of fun. Really,   great deal of fun now you haven't heard of him. I'm gonna try and get him on   the show at some point, in the future, but,   yeah. A really good show looking at things like lore, l o r e, or a very good presentation I should should say, and law, l a w,   And,   lots of good discussions,   particularly about,   well, guys, you see, it's a week ago. A lot happens in a week. I can barely remember what was we're talking about.  

I don't know if you're like that. I think my brain only works for four or five hours. I've seen your moments.  

[00:02:38] Unknown:

You know, I I sort of remember simple thing forget simple things.   Yeah. And I'm thinking, what what or do you ever go to cupboards and think, what the bloody hell am I doing here?  

[00:02:50] Unknown:

I do often find myself standing in a cupboard going, this is an interesting cupboard. Where am I?  

[00:02:56] Unknown:

Yes. Yes. I think, you know, your day is gonna start bad when you wake up and you're face to face with the pavement outside.  

[00:03:04] Unknown:

Yeah.  

[00:03:05] Unknown:

Absolutely. That's when you know your day day is gonna be bad. Yes. But, that doesn't often happen nowadays.  

[00:03:13] Unknown:

Yeah. Look at me. All kerfuffle. I've had a fun this funny, you know, I thought I was completely prepped for today and of course that was turned out to be a complete pack of lies, total pack of lies. Oh.   Yeah. That was I've just realized what's happened. Yeah. I had to reset everything up last week when I went out and it's all still on the timer so it kicked in all these things off because I'd forgotten to turn them off. So it was it was as if it was last Thursday all over again. I was having a Groundhog Day. I'm living the same Thursday over and over   and over and over and over again.  

Yeah. It doesn't work well, does it, really? No.  

[00:03:48] Unknown:

In other words, you made a a   a a a a a mess up. Yes. I did. Yeah. Never mind.   But life   Yes. No. Please. Like that. Yeah. What I was gonna say   is, life is making mistakes, and that's how you learn. Because let's face it, you know, first time you use matches, you get burnt and exod that. I'm not gonna use them again. I'll I'll be all careful. And that's just how you learn. You say you get wise. Well, if that's the case, Eric, I must have learned an awful lot.  

[00:04:15] Unknown:

I must have learned tons.   In fact, my learning curve is absolutely enormous. It's just brilliant.   Yeah. I suppose I suppose you're right. I suppose you must be right. Yeah.   If those things go that way, so Enough.  

[00:04:30] Unknown:

Yeah.  

[00:04:31] Unknown:

I ought to try and do some justice though till last Thursday because I put everybody through. I'll tell you what was funny as well. This was funny.   I don't even have the comment in front of me. I'm gonna have to dig it up.   Where was it? Was it on rumble? I think it was on rumble. Let me just go   I got a very cheeky comment in from aunt Sally last week. She was absolutely   distraught. Yeah. It was really really really In or out of the bath?   I don't know really. Everybody was sort of ridiculously   it's funny, everybody. Shout out to everybody on Rumble and YouTube. I haven't even got the chat, so what   I'll get them off in a minute. Right? As the actress said to the show. What a don't. And,   hang on. My guest just pinging me here. Just a minute. Let me just   Okay.  



[00:05:18] Unknown:

Message. I'll do a I'll do a fill in. You know?   As as   I've told the carol singer joke, aren't I? So I better not crack that one again or might as well, you know? Yeah.   We went carol singing the other night   and everything was going well. We went down to local hospital and saying the patients and   the job was was, we got kicked out when we stood outside the schizophrenic ward singing do you hear what I hear? Sorry.   Didn't you crack that joke the other day? What's going on? I did, but I thought I know. But I thought, well, I liked it so much. I thought I'll hear it again. Yeah.  

[00:05:55] Unknown:

I don't mind it. I don't mind me to do it. Yeah. No. That's really good.  

[00:06:00] Unknown:

Oh, Mark, actually just said, Paul, you will have to go some way to top Eric's happy days are here again, when it's repeating over   and over and over and over and over again. People were going out of their minds. And it was on a different it was on a different channel, so I didn't know. So I'm talking away quite happily. It's happy days are here again.  

[00:06:23] Unknown:

I know. Maybe I was just trying to catch up tonight. I actually think it's just brain fed everybody. So I'm sorry it happens really well. That's alright. But I want what I wanted to say was, I put this little sort of video up on Rumble. I remembered now and I've just pulled it up here. Just apologizing to everybody. This got more responses on the comments thing than it does when I do a show when I do a show.   You bastards have it. No. I don't really mean that. I'm using foul language. It's really funny actually. I want to read them to you, Eric, because they were all heartfelt and kindly.   Lorem tx wrote boohoo, and I was just saying this morning, it's Thursday again. Well, next week. Well, it's next week here now, Lauren. So there we go. So that's cool. Yeah.  

Dennis Vulcan said that points of view will be getting a serious complaint. Thanks, Dennis. That's good.   And Grissell said the most this is most egregious. I'm now drafting a stiff letter of complaint to my MP.   MP of stuff. Yeah. MP stands for monstrous parasites, of course. That's exactly what it is.   But the what Yes. The winner in the abusive letters, came from Aunt Sally. I'll have to read this out to you. She wrote, how very dare you. I do like that turn of phrase by the way. How very dare you to take a night off? This is about last Thursday. And do other clearly less interesting stuff about effing boring   Shakespeare. Good grief. It's a bit strong, really.  

You get a spanking from me. Well, there's always some compensation with these things. And a flogging from your general listeners. As penance, you barsteward. She's quite severe. I don't think she must have been back last night. It's a bit heavy.   I didn't realize. And she won't give. That's right. And she won't cut any cakes for you. No. No. It's all over. I've completely blown it there. She's, PS, not watching you ever ever ever again. Well, nobody ever has such it because we don't use video, but I get the drift. And then the cheeky bit and it just says, see you next Thursday. I can't possibly   what she's driving out there.  



[00:08:19] Unknown:

Oh, I like that. Yeah. It's  

[00:08:21] Unknown:

It's a bit much, isn't it? It really is a bit much. It is, isn't it? Yes. Yeah. It is. Yeah. Anyway, shout out to everybody in YouTube and Rumble chat and just to let you know, we're here on WBN   properly this time, sort of, apart from the sort of cockamamie start there   this week, which kind of puts me better in the mood really. In fact,   these things keep happening all the time. I was on with,   I was on with Ria just gone Sunday and apparently they'd had a big crash and all the servers had gone down old boot oh no, I know what it was. You know when we were having some problems with Rumble a couple of months ago and I kept on not being able to connect to it.   Same problem. They had the same problem on Sunday. You you get these this is tedious stuff everybody, but if you do stream on Rumble you can either have a dynamic,   whatever it is, RTMP connection or a static one. And I've been using the static one for YONX and it failed and that's exactly what happened to them on Sunday. It failed. You have to go to the dynamic one. I'm sure you're all making notes busily and and keeping up with all that kind of stuff. So,  

[00:09:21] Unknown:

I'd spend some dosh, I suppose, because that's what they want on the diner. Yeah. Oh, yeah. They always want that. Yeah. Absolutely. So,  

[00:09:29] Unknown:

anyway, so yeah. Thanks everybody for your cheery, your cheery letters of support. Cheered me up tremendously.   It's great. So because I get we get so many comments in when we don't do a show, we're gonna not do one next week either. That's a joke, by the way. We will be here. Yes. Although I think it's also worth pointing out that it's Thursday, of course, November,   so it's Thanksgiving Day. So shout out to everybody in The States who's well, they probably shouldn't be here. They probably should be just packing their stomachs full of turkey, I would imagine right now or whatever they're do or recovering from that. But it's also worth letting you know, maybe I mentioned it last week or two weeks ago or whatever, Christmas Day   is also on a Thursday   and so is New Year's Day obviously because it's exactly a week after.  

And,   because we're very sad and we all live in cupboards,   there's a very good chance that we will actually be doing a show on that Thursday Christmas day night for all you sad lonely people out there including us who haven't got any parties to go to. Not that I'd be too bothered anyway, so there's a very good chance of it. So we'll we'll warm up to that, but make sure you've got a bottle on hand that night or a nice flask of tea, lovely hot tea, all that stuff. Be good.   Now we've got a guest lined up. He's not here just yet. I've just put put him off for a couple of minutes. He's gonna call in in a couple of minutes.   Stephen,   who who I spoke to earlier today, and just to give you all a backdrop to this, I was on the show, I was on Eric's show on Monday,   and what, you kindly had Mark, the bowler hatted farmer on. We had a lovely sort of post show chat about certain things that are stewing.  

And he suggested that we get Steven on. And so Steven should be calling in momentarily any minute now, I think, to to come in and join the show. And it's all to do with farming. So Steven's gonna be here for hour one through to about 09:00.   I had an enormous conversation with him today.   He fair wore me out, Eric. It's quite it was fantastic actually. Yeah. Yeah. No. It's really really good stuff. He's up in Manchester. He'll tell you all about it when he comes on.   But Mark referenced him. He's been having trouble,   up to recently with the whole of the milk world and farming and milk world. So he's got some pretty interesting stuff to say.  

And then in hour two because it is and I'd, you know, even this slips my wonderfully useless mind these days, it's the last Thursday of the month. So it's Monica. Monica's gonna be joining us from hour two onwards. Oh, brilliant. And we'll we'll expand it out. We might bring some other American types in if they can talk. They'll be all full of turkey. I have no idea what's going on to be quite honest, but there we go. So  

[00:11:54] Unknown:

yeah. Excellent.   And and and talk about turkeys, the, photograph that you've got on the painting looks like Norfolk where,   turkeys come from. Well, they don't originate from there. They originate from North America, but, you know, this is where they're actually bred mainly in Norfolk, isn't it? Yeah. And,   that that looks as fast as Norfolk. Yes. And, Norwich, as we all know, was what,   a gentleman used to put, merit sorry.   English   troops used to put on their letters their girlfriends,   at the end of and we won't go into that because it's it's very rude, isn't it?  

[00:12:31] Unknown:

I know. But that picture is of Norfolk. It looks good. So it's Norfolk is good. Isn't it? Is that what you're going to say? No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. It's a family show. Yes. So Yes. Not much of a I mean, we probably can't offend anybody too much, certainly, in America because they're not they won't be here today, will they? Or are they gonna be in there? Of course, I can say that what Norwich stands. No. No. No.  

[00:12:52] Unknown:

No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No.   No   Yes. No. It Nick is off ready,   when I come   home. Yeah. On my return home. Yes. Yes. Absolutely.  

[00:13:10] Unknown:

Anyway, Eric, I've got a phone ringing. That momentarily, we might be contacted by our guest, Steven, tonight. And he's called in. Steven, hi. Welcome  

[00:13:18] Unknown:

to the show. How are you?  

[00:13:19] Unknown:

Alright, Paul. Is that Paul?   Yeah. Too. Yeah. Yeah. Alright.   Yeah. Well, I've just got back from football practice, and,   we're just doing a few more jobs now. So I'm just currently on the tally.  

[00:13:33] Unknown:

Alrighty. Are you driving right now?  

[00:13:36] Unknown:

Looking out.  

[00:13:38] Unknown:

Looking to shut out. Putting my own straw in. Right. Okay. It's just that the signal's a bit sort of poor.  

[00:13:45] Unknown:

I'll   I'll,   I'll park. Hold on.   Is that any better?  

[00:13:52] Unknown:

Yeah. It should yeah. It's a little better. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. It's not too bad. Absolutely.   So football practice, how did it go? Did you score any goals, Steven? That's what we want to know. No. No. It's not, lad. It's Owen. I'm I'm just assistant coach.  

[00:14:06] Unknown:

Just go down. Been football dad, ain't it? Just go and help out. It's a kids practice.  

[00:14:11] Unknown:

Yep.   So I've just been telling everybody. I've just been giving, everybody a little bit background as to I mean, I don't know. We we've spoke for the first time today, but what I was letting everybody know is that, we had a cracking show with, Mark, the bollahadded farmer on Monday.   He got stimulated about things. He got in touch with you and he said to me, he said, you ought to try and get Stephen on because he's got some interesting tales about his life as a dairy farmer and dealing with the milk world. And, of course, we had a very long chat today, didn't we? Which was fantastic. Let me go fair took it out, Steven, afterwards. I thought, good grief, you know, this fantastic. But,   we just thought we thought we'd bring you on, you know, so you can talk a little bit about this and about the wonderful life of a dairy farmer up in and around Manchester and all the anything else you want to really talk about.  



[00:14:56] Unknown:

Yeah. Well, I mean, where did we start? I mean, like this year. I mean, I I mean, this year has been the worst in   thirty years of doing it. We've never experienced   turmoil.   You know you know, from Yew Tree Dairy, you know, we supplied them for ten years,   and then the take over, you know, that they did last year,   large corporate bought out the small dairy, buying out the competitor   like it is. Yeah. And it's just been an absolute disaster from day dot for joining them. I cannot say that in thirty years of dealing with   three different dairies we have. We used to have Nestle when there was a kid,   to first milk and then obviously to go to usually ten year ago.  

And never had any hassle. Like,   not like to this extent we've experienced this year.   And in twelve months,   I've never experienced anything like it quite like it. And Mueller brand themselves as being a super dairy. You know? But the brand themselves has been the top of   the tree, and they treat the farmers like that. And to be honest, I have tried for the last week to get a hold of them,   the family aids on people,   and I can't get a hold of them even today. Rang today. I even rang at tea time after I got off phone to you. Right. And,   you can't get a hold of anybody.  

I mean, this is the top dairy in the country or want to prepare us to be the top one of the top suppliers to the supermarket chain, and we can't even get older people.  

[00:16:32] Unknown:

You know, that's how poor it is. I mean How long how long have you been dairy far how long is that do you class yourself as a dairy farmer? How many years have you been doing that? Thirty thirty years. I've been doing it since so before I left school. Right.  

[00:16:46] Unknown:

You know, thirty odd years. Yeah.   And like I say, we've had I've had three suppliers over the years. Nestle, when I was obviously a kid,   into early twenties. And then they they left the country. You know, they packed up and and left, and we got transferred over to First Milk   back then in early two thousands. And like I say, mid time with First Milk, no. But, you know,   we then transferred over to Yew Tree   ten year ago. And like I said, I've never had   no real miter.   And then this lot, you know, within what, three, four months, I mean, it just went to carnage at spring. Right. I've never chucked fought two weeks worth of milk away. You couldn't get hold of anybody.   You couldn't get hold of these people   in the office in in in in on the phone. And I've experienced the same again this week. They say that they're there to help and all that, this, that, and other. And we and then the same this week. You know, where's the phone call? Why aren't they answering? These people are paid these big wages to do the jobs, and, literally,   they're doing nothing.  

The only thing they're doing is extracting money   out of the producers, us, the people, the farmers, and they're getting paid for doing sodal   pretty much   mostly like the government. Pretty much like all these government people, ain't it? It. They're as   bad. You  

[00:18:10] Unknown:

don't you don't have a good view of the government, Steven. You don't have a positive view of the government. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No.  

[00:18:17] Unknown:

No  

[00:18:23] Unknown:

Right.  

[00:18:24] Unknown:

So, you know, the inheritance tax sort of didn't matter to me, but every other tax does. And yesterday's taxing,   the new one. So I've just literally spent all this year to set up,  

[00:18:35] Unknown:

to now sell direct to the public. So a set up now can actually do it, sell direct. When did that happen then? When did your when did your selling direct thing because it's quite recent, isn't it?  

[00:18:46] Unknown:

Oh, it's just last week. This literally, this last this this where are we now? Friday. So, yeah, just literally, we we got the the go ahead at the end of last week, and then we've just progressed or ordered the stuff, the bits and pieces we need. And, with the with the view that we'll have everything together by this weekend now, and we can   we can sell to the public now, and a few people have come with refill bottles.   But now from this weekend, every drop of our milk has to go to the public because that's when my contract with more ends. They served me notice six months ago. Right. We finished this weekend, and we have   no supplier to take us on. There's no dairy,   to to take that milk on because nobody wants any milk. They're all actually getting rid of farmers, not wanting farmers.  

And   this is the supply and demand situation.   But like I say, this it's just in turmoil. And I and I think I've had a bad year in one sense, but we have got now a potential outlet in we sell now direct to public. We've been putting this in place since beginning of the year because I knew where we were gonna end up.   We knew I knew we we would knew we we would get thrown under a bus   with Mueller,   and they've done that. They they have done it. They have literally thrown us under a bus. They are paying us   on that contract, this specific one that we're on, 40%   less   than what their   direct   contract farmers are. So those that, you know, 14 difference with the same milk company. Now And are they a monopoly then, Steve Steven, are they a monopoly? Do they control the entire milk market, or are they just one of a few major players? One. So there's one of the few major players. But, literally, it's like the supermarkets.  

You have Tesco and you have Morrisons and Aldi, whoever, the big the big supermarkets, the big six. Well, more are one of the big three or four dairies that control the plight, the price.   And they're then dictated to by the supermarkets.   But like I say,   I can't believe this last month. I mean, there's 40%   difference   between our milk   and and my some of my friends who are with who have been with Mueller for a number of years,   you know, tens of years.   But there's   a 40%   difference. 40%.   And literally, how do they expect us to pay the bills? How do they expect they don't care. They actually don't care because they've served as notice,   and they don't care. And they say they're here, but they're not. They're not available on the phone. They don't answer. I've tried for a week.  

And and it's just like it pretty much sums up the year with them. The experience has been utterly dire. Just pretty much the same experience we've all experienced with the government, to be fair. So we've had a double kicking this year because we've had this government   waste of time, and we've had our main   income waste of time. The government cut the subsidies.   I mean, they scrapped the SFI, the sustainable farming incentive.   No sign of it. We've asked them. We've asked. We've asked the government for some clarity. What they're doing with the SFI scheme? Is it gonna actually ever come back? Nothing. You ask these MPs,   they don't get back to you. We ask you know, you just ask, and nothing there's nothing.  

And that's pretty much sums up. So we do I mean, there's various farmers like Mark, who he had on earlier. He's great as Mark. And Yep. Such as Gareth Swindon. There's there's so many to name, such as Gareth Swindon. There's so many to name these farmers. And like you said, there's a food revolution   coming without doubt, and I I I we are. We now stepped into that world of joining with fellow farmers   around the country.   We are going to set up   our own   supply chain as such. You come and buy the people come and buy good food from us. I honestly do believe it. The food the food revolution is coming.  

[00:22:36] Unknown:

Come to us. We provide you the good food. Thing. Yeah. Like we were talking about today, earlier today, and with Mark, that this is this is it's absolutely the timing is right. Is this the first time that you  

[00:22:48] Unknown:

have been in a position where you've sold direct to the public? Is this your first Yeah. We've never ever we've never ever gone we've never ever sold to the public. This is the this is a completely new territory.   This is like   exploring the unknown.   And it's   it's it's two words. It's it's terrifying, and it's exciting at the same time. I bet it is. Yeah. I bet it is. So it's a terrifying because Yeah. It but you don't because you just don't know, and we've never been in a position where we don't have a guaranteed income. Because, like, we've always had that guaranteed income coming from when your milk check comes, you you know, you're getting something.   So you have that guaranteed income each month that you know is coming the following month. And the same with the subsidies, you know, we've had that's what subsidies were put in place for all them decades ago after World War two. To guarantee farmers, should you have a bad year,   farmers always have that guarantee that there's a subsidy check coming at the end of the year that protects   the farm to the next year so that they make sure that they've got some money at the bad harvest. They've got some money at the end of the year. It covers the bills and gets next year's harvest ready for to keep the food coming. But like this lot, we've got in power now. Do not   have any idea. The I don't there's just completely   incompetent illiterate government   that doesn't see as far as the end of the nose. If they can't see that   food is a necessity,   you can't just import it every single day because you have conditions outside your control. I mean, we only need to have   a a canal boat,   or whatever. That boat that that was stuck in the Suarez Canal, that ship, I think.  

You only need to get a share problem like that happen,   and it blocks the canal for six weeks.   Right. So what happens if we're reliant on on on food being imported in and we get something just just out of our control, a freak accident, accident,   like, that ship gets stuck. All of a sudden, can we survive without six weeks food?  

[00:24:52] Unknown:

I don't know. It looks as though they want to test us out, though.   It looks as though they would like to test us.   Isn't it the case, Steven? I think I think during   during World War one,   I know it's going back a bit and we were around then, but, the the story is that this country was six weeks away from starvation because of the U boats and stuff like that. So maybe they're trying to beat a record on that thing. Steven, have you met have you ever met Eric? Eric von Essex? Or have you heard of him? You've heard of him now? No. No. He did he did mention he did mention that Eric Well, he's lurking.   Eric, hi. Hello. Let me introduce Hello? Steven. Hi.  



[00:25:26] Unknown:

Hello,   Steven. And, all very interesting   in your milk, but trouble is I I live in Hertfordshire. It was a bit of a long way to go to Manchester to get the milk, isn't it?  

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Yeah. Yeah. But the point is,   like Mark's food finders hub, and farmers get onto these app things now,   it is becoming the you know, joining this technology,   web using technology,   farm sign up. You will find somebody. I probably guarantee that they if you go on that or if the farmer will be on there somewhere,  

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all is Oh, I know. They're delicious. Will be. Yeah. But don't but delicious, that's just not allowed to me.   Yeah. So there you go. But so so so is that better local   That's your local farmer to go to. So this is the point. They've been to hell and back. I'll tell you that because of that to be closed for a cup or for months   whilst the,   inspectors inspected their milk and everything. Those poor souls, I feel really sorry for them. And I know how hard it must be for yourself.   I mean, will you be only selling milk? Are there other products? And I'll be very happy for a start off start off, it's milk. And then,  

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Olivia's going to do a cheese to go on one of these cheese courses in January. She's booked on to go on one of   them. Obviously, milk,   milk, butter, cheese. So butter and cheese are our next things.  

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Butters Oh, oh, that's that's important. And also,  

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ice cream. This This is what delicious do, ice cream. Again again, Erwin, I really are going to go on a course in January   for ice cream.   So   January over there. January over there with the cheese. I I scream in February. Butter, obviously,   we'll do that in probably New Year.   But butter's the quicker product to make because it doesn't take many days, and and it's ready. You know? Butters fairly I know what you're doing.  

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Cheese.  

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Now if we start  

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in that Do you have vending machines? Do you have vending machines or delicious wheat? No. We're not that. Yeah.  

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We're not that. Yeah. We're not we're we're we've literally just started. So   the vending machine   will will will come.   That will probably be   well, it'll definitely be next year. It's not going to be this year.   Whether we've get the vending machines in by spring, I would think. It's gonna take time. Nothing. We   Of course. We've got a Would you like the other  

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one. Would you like an advert on my show? No. No. No. Steve, would you like an advert on my show? Want to do I don't know how to do all. I'm new to all this. Oh, we're gonna get all this sorted, Steven. We're gonna help. Oh, don't worry.  

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If you'd like, man.  

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Yeah. I mean, I'm new to all all this this   this this, well, life world, call it what you will. You know, that that we've just been supplying   to, you   know, the processes. That's been our life,   and it's destroyed us.   And Yeah. We we've   it now has actually within one year, they've destroyed me. They've destroyed twenty nine years worth of work.   And   I can't put that into words. I I I gave them a person at Swinke. I said, do you know you don't you don't care at all. I said, twenty nine years, I put into it, and you have destroyed me destroyed me. And you do not care do not care. You know? They just don't.   And they've proven that they're not gonna be on the swing.  

Yeah. I think they're a German firm, aren't they? They're not having to go off the Germans for for that. But Muller, yes, German German owned. I mean, our dairy industry. Right? You've got all of Danish,   Muller German, and Dairycrest   are now   Canadian   owned. Our main milk industry is owned   outside of The UK.   Dairy Crest was always a British brand.   You know,   Muller used to be what was called Robert Weismann's and Express and all that. That was Scottish and English Scottish and English.   You know, Dairy Crest was was was in UK.   Everything. We used to twenty years ago,   our dairy industry was owned by The UK. There was no outside   from anywhere else. And now within the last   ten, fifteen years, it's literally be they just literally come in and bought us out.  



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And where are these so where which companies, which countries are now  

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indirectly owning the the British dairy industry then? Sure. Sure. Well, German. Yeah. Danish. Mhmm. And Canadian. The the main the main bulk of our of our   of our milk industry now will be owned,   from outside The UK.   And and like I say, with Mueller,   they bought up the Yew Tree Dairy. It was a a UK dairy,   starting to get a bit bigger. It's quite a small dairy, but it starts to get a bit bigger. And soon as they got so big,   they just done a corporate buyout.   Right. So they they just they just take out the competitors,   just like supermarkets   destroying the high street.  



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You know? Are you, Stephen, are you the world. Are you surrounded by or in contact with lots of other farmers in a similar situation? I mean by that,   farmers that have never gone to the public before but are now about to make the plunge or are in the process of making the plunge to do that. I  

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I think there's one or two. I think, certainly, this this should be this last year. And and the thing is I mean, one thing I'll praise the the the labor government for I told you this earlier. There's one thing that I'll praise that the labor government's done to the to to the farming industry.   It's now united.   Because in this last year, since they did what they did last year,   they we've set up the farming networks have set up now people. People I'd never met ever or never met or never talked to. People like Mark. People like David Wheatley. People like Alan Hughes. Gareth Wynne Jones. You know, I met we met Gareth in London and and and and Liverpool. And same with Alan, and I saw Alan and and and Will Hughes,   from Scotland. You know? I've I've met and talked to so many other farmers   this last year that we've never and Stephen Wainwright. Stephen, I mean, we've got back in touch after twenty years, went college together. Right. And, like, you know, we haven't seen each other for twenty years, and now we're we're in contact   most weeks   days. But the point is is it they've united   us. By doing what they've done, they've actually united farmers, and now we're all talking, and now we're all networking and working together. And, actually,   it's it's through doing that that I've now got into the position I have by saying, well, we need to do this. We're gonna have to do that. Do something. And it gives you that courage to speak up. And Yes.  

You know?  

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Well, if it's any help, Steven,   where I go to pick up my milk,   I don't think I've ever been it's always crowded, the small car park, and there's always people buying milk. Raw milk is something that is desperately needed.  

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And well, actually, it's awful that comes from wild rice. Unprocessed.   It's natural. I've drunk it for forty four years,   obvious well, at least. Mhmm. You know,   that is it.   It's not it's not it's done nothing at me. That's all that you know, that's all we've ever known. If I drink supermarket milk, I. E. You have it elsewhere when you're not at home,   you can taste the difference.   Well, there's no taste to it. You can Yeah. You can tell the difference,   in a brew and things like that.   And and, I mean, I'm not I I was bought Costa coffee,   when I was in Manchester one day.  

It was very nice. They bought me a Costa coffee.   I have to say I couldn't drink it.   I just I I I I I literally had to throw I I drink a bit out of it. I'm like,   I can't drink that.   It was rank. It was rank. Yeah. And and this is the point. It's   you you till you've   till you've experienced good food, you don't know what bad food is. And I think that's the thing with the general public.  

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They don't know what good food actually tastes like. We agree. Absolutely, Steve. And I think so. A bit like you were saying earlier that the technology is a bit new to you. I suspect that raw milk is gonna be a bit new to everybody else. I mean, I do buy it and purchase it, and you go through a sort of review process. So do you think there's a kind of, for want of a better word, a kind of an education process required to get the word spread? I mean, I've I've I've been saying it for years. I mean, like, we I I  

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I don't know how many years. Five, six years. Ever since I little, I've really went school. I think that's one thing. When you become a parent   and then and then you you the responsibility   becomes. And then,   like, then they've gone to school, and then you're seeing how the difference is in the kids, and you're comparing it to what it was like when you was at school. Mhmm. And and the chain there's something seriously gone off in our education system in the last twenty plus years.   Serious. Because it was not like that when I was at school.   Not to the like it is now. It's a the the the I can't put it into words, but I don't know what the brainwashing them or Yeah. They are. In documentation   or there's something sinister got off in the last twenty odd years that   I can see.  

And and it's it's terrifying. And like I say, we signed up to do school education program visits.   I've been signed up for that for over two years,   and my local authority isn't even interested   in push seem to be pushing it. I've said we're we're we're available to do it. And I have now in this last few months, obviously, with speaking out,   started to get people   interested. I need to contact people, but I'm having to do the contacting.   You know, the local authority is is responsible for education, and I've raised it in meetings and things like that. But they're not pushing it, and they talk of ambition. Well, there's no ambition.   If they had ambition,   they would be jumping on this, and people want to know. I mean, like, even Olivia said, we had a a,   a Pakistani couple come today.  

Lovely couple. He took so he took a couple pictures,   and we're talking with him and his wife. And and like   Olivia said,   you know, she would tell him about what she's going to make with the milk. And even Olivia said, like, it would be actually really interesting to go and have a day's cooking with them   to see what them to see what they do in their culture and community with the food because it's actually fascinating. And and Mark, like, Mark's Mark said that to me. We had that conversation   literally an hour ago. Like he said, his his missus is Nigerian   and and how she cooks   at home. And and this is the point, culture   culture and cooking. But that is at the heart   of of the of the Pakistanis   and and Indians   and and and Europeans,   you know. Italians   and Spanish and and French.  

Culture is food and drink are their culture.   You know, that is the very essence   of of of life, and and they are really into it. And and I've said this, in The UK, it's just beer and kebabs.  

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I think, Stephen, of course, me and Eric been relatively   long in the tooth.   When I went to school as a wee lad in the sixties,   I got milk every morning at junior school. Did you get milk, Eric? Did you get milk? Yes. We got we got milk and,  

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bullies used to put worms. Used to take out words and put them in the milk. Watch out for the worm bullies. Is  

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that market then, Steven, to get raw milk back into the schools? Of course, the bureaucratic hurdles, they'd all have a they'd all have a heart attack, wouldn't they? They'd They'd  

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have a heart attack. They they wouldn't they they wouldn't allow that.   They wouldn't allow that. I know. The thing is is is   there is a difference in pasteurization,   and modern method pasteurization   is what destroys milk.   Mhmm. So the homogenization,   the ultra processing of it, because it is a modern milk in the supermarket is another ultra processed product.   Now if you go   the more traditional method,   low heat I think it's called low heat pasteurization   rather than high pressure   pasteurization.   So it's the modern method   that's killed milk. The high pressure,   homogenization,   ultra process, basically, fifteen seconds   boiled   instead of just simmered away   for half an hour with the traditional   method.  

Right. And that's what we need to go back, and that's what most,   small scale dairy farmers   that do milk bending. It when they do the pasteurized, and it is somewhat that we will go into because I wanna provide both. I want people to have the choice. Those that wish to have it like we have it, those that do want to have the pasteurized, we can provide that as well. And, hopefully,   within a week or two, we'll provide both,   for those people that feel more comfortable. And I I get it. And and this is what I actually have the argument with the Mueller over.   I actually had an argument with this. It says, why can't we provide both for the public? Why can't we give them the choice?  

Mhmm. We should be able to give the public the choice in food.   Yep. And, we won't we don't agree with it. We don't have to agree with it. The consumer   is the one that makes the choice, not you. So, basically, you're dictating to the consumer what they can have.  

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Well, there's nothing new there, is there? There's nothing new there. I mean,   that's a cultural thing. I mean, in terms of your sales now as you get up and running, are you anticipating that the bulk will come from people locally within a sort of fifteen, twenty mile radius?   Yeah. I I But are you are you planning to sort of sell   is there a is there an opportunity   or a delivery system for you to sell wider field? I mean, I don't know what it's like with raw milk. It's it's obviously got you know?  

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The thing is is that we don't need to. I don't need to go in oils. Well, that's good. That's the point. That we don't because there's enough good people. But the point is,   why do we need to ship it all around the country? All that does is increase carbon footprint and all that crap.  

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Mhmm.  

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Sorry.   It come out.   Let me go back.   Yeah. It in it increases all that transport and everything.   We're supposed to be about local supply chain local supply chains.   So somebody five, ten miles away.   So yeah. But somebody five, ten miles away can do the same thing I'm doing and cover that area. And then that area is covered by somebody else, and that's the point.   Cover the areas in your local areas. Keep food local. Mhmm. Support each local area.   That's that sorts that out, and then we set like Mark with his food hub idea,   with the food finders hub. That's the idea of it. Find your local food of what you need within that area   and go to that spot that one, and it will have that positive knock on effect. You know, I don't need to supply somebody in London.  

No. Let somebody let somebody down south. What what delicious. Let them cover that area. You know? And and but and that and farmers just need to break that mold of thinking that it's   supply   the processes and let them ship it all around the country. Well, that mold breaking  

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that mold breaking that you refer to,   I guess that Mark's food hub is a key sort of part of breaking this mold of creating a new sort of cultural agreement   amongst   farmers that they can, hey, you can go direct to the end consumer.   And of course, the technology now that the communications technology is here cost effectively,   you can do that. Do you see could you envisage,   Stephen,   a time this is me talking off beam here. You know, one of the things I actually do miss is the sound of the electric milk cart on a morning. I always thought it was the sound of civilization myself when I was a kid. Do you think they could come back for guys like you shifting raw milk out to consumers? It's highly it's  

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highly possible Yeah. That that that that   we could have I mean, you know,   let's say, you know, Uber delivery drivers,   you know, they're delivering all the foods out. Who says they couldn't go around and do the milk deliveries in the morning?  

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Yep.  

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Uber milk. You know, something yeah. But, you know, really Well, why not? That that these   why not?   Why not have a system in place? Because I haven't got time to do it. No. But who's who's to say that these people that's doing, you know, Amazon delivery, you know, whatever. We're all the the modern   way seems to be having delivery.   So why not have your milk delivered?  

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Are you I mean, are you are you near a relatively large catchment area of people that do work?  

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We're right on edge of we're right on edge of Manchester. Oh, that's great. We're we're in we're in a massive catchment area, aren't it? And there's there's few farms around the Greater Manchester that will be doing it. Yeah. There are people on the other side, people on the South. We we don't need to go, but like people have said to me, they're coming they're local around here that's come   this last day or two, and they've been driving 20 miles to go and get it.   And they think it's great because they're willing to travel 20 miles.   It's a big cost. And and two hours, you know, you got an hour long way, an hour over. Yep. You got the cost. It was to go and get a few pints of, you know, a few leaves. Well, that's what I'm faced with here. Mine's about 13 miles away. So it's not 20, but it's still Same same as me. Same as me. Is that right? I'm all about that. Yeah. And and what I do Are they the closest ones they're the closest ones to you? Those closest ones we found so far. We've I've contacted a few others. Point. Yeah. Yeah. They haven't they haven't   got out that  

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No. We zone then, do we? Well, we just don't know that they exist yet. I think it's like there's not an established place where you can just look it up and get tons of them, but food hub is gonna become that. It's gonna become that. I think food hub I think we are at at the beginning  

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Yep. Of the food web of the food revolution coming.   We are at the beginning of it. And I think as as more as more do it,   all the farmers are going to say, we need to do that.  

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Mhmm.  

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Yep. We need to do that. You know? And   but it's just I mean, it's it's different, and it's it's a risk. I mean, the thing is it's a massive risk we're taking, but I've no wonder choice. It's either it's either doing this or sell or sell off.  

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I mean, with your the other issue I've already heard.   Sorry, Eric. God, please. Please, Eric, you speak.  

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What I was gonna say, I wish every success, but, a friend of mine who's a natural doctor, nothing to do with the NHS. Yeah. He deals with natural medicine. He's a acupuncturist.   He said regarding   pasteurized milk, he said the best thing to do if you got raw milk, he said when you make your tea or your coffee, let it cool   to,   you know, temperature till you drink it, and then put the milk in. And it won't pasteurize it. He said you get the full the better benefits from the milk. So he said don't put the milk in when you put the bottle of water on. Just a little something I thought I'd mention. You might wanna tell your customers. I don't know. But that's that's what he told me. He said, you know, if your body has  

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yeah. Everybody has their own   way of   I suppose.   Some people prefer to put the milk on first, some people prefer No. No. No. I'm talking about pasteurizing.  

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Because if you put Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I know what you mean. Yeah. If if you wanna pasteurize the milk, you put the boiling water onto it straight away. But if you want the benefits of raw milk, you don't put the boiling water onto it first of all. What you do is you let your your liquid cool a little bit and then put the milk in. That's what I was getting at. I know it's on personal stage but you know, this is the thing. Why buy raw milk when when you're gonna pasteurize it anyway? So you might might might as well Well, yeah. Do do what he says. You know? I get what you mean there. I mean, everybody has their own way of doing a a brew as far as  

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I mean, you know,   it's everybody's personal   preference and it's,   and, I mean, some people like it creamier, some people don't. I mean, I've I've heard Yeah. But I'm I'm talking about the health benefits.  

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Oh, yeah. Yeah. About the health benefits of of raw milk. I'm not talking about the personal for for varieties. No. No. No. No. No. Yeah. I mean I'm talking about the the the health the, you know, the reason why you would do it. It wasn't be for personal taste. It'd be because you want the raw milk.  

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Yeah.   But no. I mean, end of the day, like, our little lad, I mean, he burnt his self many, many years ago.   And and, yeah, obviously, went to Manchester Children's.   The doctors, you know,   put that, the bandage round and like they do because he burnt his cell phone.   He literally went off food. This is one thing. He was only just over one, and he burned his cell phone, got his cup of tea, pulled it off the table, little lamb.   What can he do? Not can you do it? No. It's nobody's fault. It's just one of them freak accidents. He burned. He stoned his self.   And he went off his food,   that week, and all he would do was drink milk. He drunk gallons like he just he just kept saying milk, mom. Milk.  

And he just kept down in milk.   Right. And he he went to the hospital the next week because, obviously,   you you they they say, you know, you've got come back within a week to check up how he's feeling.   And the doctor took the bandages   off, and he'd   healed. And the got the doctors   couldn't believe she said she said to Olivia, obviously, I went there. She said, what have you given this child?   And she said, well, he's just drunk milk all week. What type of milk? Well, our milk because, obviously, she knew we were farmers. Raw raw you know, just pure milk. Raw raw Yeah. Unpestionable   milk. She says,   yes.  

We've seen this.   They know   all the amino acids, all the enzymes, all the vitamins and minerals that help repair our bodies   that are in the milk,   and they're available in raw milk. They aren't available in the pasteurized milk because decay kills them.   It kills all them organisms   that we have antibodies,   not antibiotics,   antibodies.   And they're all   really important for our bodies function. Antibodies, enzymes, amino acids,   vitamins, minerals,   and pasteurization   kills a lot of them.   Yeah. And that's what help repair our bodies.   Our bodies know what it wants to eat. And and and that, you know, that little boy,   all them years ago that did that, his body knew what it wanted,   and he just said milk. And he was eating food. He just went off food, and he said milk, mommy.  

I just want milk.  

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So it was in a way, inadvertently,   Stephen, it was kind of forge if if you're gonna be a young lad and scold yourself, you you want a dad who's a dairy farmer that sells raw milk. Is that right? Well It's gonna help you. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But the point is  

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is   healing bones, healing our bodies. I mean, this is like Mark I mean, Mark talked about   healing our our bodies.   Our whole   we talked about it slightly earlier. Our country, our world,   the food system is so broken.   Now it's killing us as a as as a people, as a species. We are so sick.   Well, not everybody, but a lot of people are so ill, so sick because they are poisoning their bodies indirectly with the food they consume.   They are literally eating junk   and toxic   substances that are laced in our food. And this gets me onto, I mean, the milkshake tax yesterday.   So that was another kick in the notes yesterday from from the government is the milkshake tax they brought in.  

Wonderful. Let's tax milkshakes. They're doing it. Oh, it's because of the sugar. The sugar's gonna kill us.   Right. Yeah. The sugar's gonna kill us. So what this labor MP that come out did actually come out yesterday and speak,   to some of the farmers.   And she said, well, what they'll do is the manufacturers,   they won't put as much sugar in, and they'll replace it. I said, yes. Replace it with fake sugar. Even better, let's just   put that carcinogenic   stuff in. Instead of sugar,   let's put some carcinogenic   carcinogenic   substances   replacements in. Fake sugar, which actually is even worse   than the real sugar, and that's what they're going to do. So they're gonna tax milkshakes.  

They're gonna then the milkshake flavorings that have a bit of sugar in   are now going to become aspartame based instead of sugar based,   and that will just toxify   milkshakes.   I mean, just keep adding that junk into our food system even more. I applaud her and said, well done.   You and your government, let's poison some more people. And I applauded her   and walked off.  

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I couldn't believe what I'd witnessed yesterday, and I thought they're even going to tax healthy food. They they are that's what this government seems to be about. Tax and destroy anything that's good for us. I think what you're doing what you're doing though, Stephen, is pointing the way attitudeally and not just in the field of food, but everywhere. We talk about this regularly that the number one enemy in practically every area of your   life is the government.   Literally. Not sort of like as an offhand insult. It's literally true.   So, I mean they're staffed by these mediocre people   who, you know, they need to get paid at the end of the month. They're gonna do whatever they're told. They can't even work this stuff out. Fortunately, we got people like you and Mark and others coming together   to teach us again, you know, to remind us to restore a sort of true knowledge and understanding   of how we have to deal with food straight from the earth. I think I was mentioning today. I was talking about this guy   that Jurian Jenks who wrote all these books about agriculture in the nineteen thirties and he made this very simple observation I know because we we I mentioned this to you this afternoon when we were talking.  

That the Yeah. The the nearer the food is, this is a common one, I'm sure everybody knows this, the nearer the food is out of the ground to your plate,   the better it's gonna be and it's all to do with the health of the soil and he he said and therefore the amount of disease and poor health will be massively reduced. But, of course, I don't believe they want that. I actually think they want an increase in disease because their policy is indicated.  

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Yeah. Yeah. The part they want the increase in that because they want the increased profits for the pharmaceuticals.   They don't want. So I suggested this   a while ago to to my MP and and people. I said, well, I'll tell you what. Why don't we have a rebel you know, let's make   well, I mean, Gareth and Jones.   Let's have a food revolution. Let's make food great again. Let's make   let's make,   what this Garrus words can't remember.   Let's build a better Britain on our bellies   with better food. Mhmm. And and the point is good food will bring good health. Good health   reduces the burden on the NHS.  

So imagine a country where we could actually   halve the budget on the NHS.   That's a 100,000,000,000   whatever it is a year.   Right? What what so we've have it with the government,   miss Reeves, and and the whole lot of wonderful cabinet of people that have got all this mathematical skills supposedly.   Well, you talk of a 22,000,000,000   black hole, 40,000,000,000   black hole. Well, let's   revolutionize   the country and our health,   and we can shave a 100,000,000,000   a year off of the annual deficit budget.   We'll halve the NHS budget   then. Mhmm. So that 100,000,000,000   so you they moan about Brexit and all like that. So we actually could halve the NHS budget.  

All our services would work better, so you'd be able to see some when you're actually poorly, you'd be able to see somebody at the NHS because they wouldn't be overrun.   You'd get a better service. You'd have a quicker service. People would be healed quicker because they wouldn't be overrun, but they wouldn't be sicker, and their bodies would heal quicker, so they would spend less time in the NHS. And then that would leave   those people that work in the NHS,   give them a lot more spare time to actually look after our young and our elderly.   So the young that need help and the elderly that need help, if the NHS isn't overrun with   middle peep you know, the middle aged people, the young adults and middle age,   If the NHS isn't overrun with them, which it currently is Yeah. They'd actually have more time to just look after those that need.  



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Well, I think really where you what you're doing and what we're talking about here, what Mark was evangelizing rightfully so on Monday,   is we're we're gonna replace the NHS with the National Healthy Food Service. That's really what's needed.   It's gonna and it we we won't be looking to the NHS for help because it's shot to bits. I mean, it's really just, you know, it's just another pharmaceutical   delivery system. The whole thing, all of these things are to do with corporations   using us as profit centers. Mark, we're nearly at the end of the hour.   Sorry, Steven. I just wanna say, we're nearly at the end of the hour. And I how can what's the name of your company? How would people find you? They're probably gonna find you on find Food Finders, about they? But but what's the name of your I love I love you right now, and they come up with the brand of Milko Milkalicious.  



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Yeah. And the idea was we called it Milko Milko.   Yeah. The little gimmick we call the little gimmick we come up with, it tastes so nice, we named it twice.  

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Nice.   Well, Steven, I'm looking forward we're gonna we're gonna have you on again.   We'll have you on again at some other point. We're just coming up to the end of the hour. And I know that Eric probably is gonna badge you or via Mark to try and get you onto his show at some point in the future, and we've got a lot more planned, I'm sure, in working with Mark.   So I said that this is just your first it's your first trial out here, but it's gone great. I've really enjoyed listening. It's my it's my it's my first,   podcast I've ever done. Well, I have been asked. I've  

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never done this. I've never done this. But, like, I have been asked and I'm like, I've never done it. And, yeah, it was it was interesting.  

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There's a lot to talk about, and you and you're just the sort of guy to talk about it. If there's any more like you, I think this entire project is gonna be in safe hands, and I suspect there are. There there is. Well, I mean, Will Murray. I mean, Will Murray from Scotland. I remember that what he said in Liverpool  

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that the Labour government and he he he did that warning. I remember that where he said, you've come for our jobs,   to take our jobs.   Yep. Well, now we're coming for yours.   Yeah. And he want basically saying, we're going to take your jobs off you now. You come to take our kill our industry. Now we're gonna take your jobs, and we're gonna replace you. Well, that is what's needed,   and that is what's needed. These people that run this country do not know how to run the country, and they need replacing   with real people.  

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I think you're people. I think we just do it direct like, you're going direct to the customer.   We're gonna go with our knowledge direct to our fellow Englishmen and Scotsmen and Welshmen and wherever you may live. Right? That's we don't need them and the way that we get rid of them is by creating what we do need   And that's really why, you know, food finder sub is just a great way   to deal with one part of it. It just happens to be the most important bit because no food, no audience,   nothing.  

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And that's and if there's something can I go once?   Yeah. Say something, Aaron. He's gonna say so what I was gonna say is ignore government out of existence because we need them like an elephant needs a hang glider. Yeah. Seriously. Not good. Yeah. What do we need them for? Yeah. They are They're good. Fully I mean, I I have witnessed that, and it's so unbelievable.  

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You know, four times I've lobbied my MP. Nothing in parliament. I've gone in there. I've lobbied him four times. Nothing. Well, I mean, yesterday We don't need them. Alan. No. No. We don't. But the point is is Alan went in, his MP come out. Their mother lads went in, his MP come out. The Cornish words, the m the Labour MP come out. Different MPs come out to meet the farmers yesterday. I was the only farmer in there whose MP didn't come out.   What does that tell you?  

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He's running steady. He's always been running steady to me. Well, I'll tell you what. In the next in the next one that we do, Steven, we'll get stuck into the MPs a bit more. But as a as a first shot, it's been great having you on, and shout out to Mark. Quite good. Mark, thank you very much for pointing us in touch, and Mark was absolutely right. He said he'd be tuning in, so that's good. He's a busy fella as well. But this is a this is a a great sort of week. I've really enjoyed this week on Eric with Mark and and here with you.  

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Yep. Yeah. It feels like it's the beginning.   Like, it is. It's new to your unknown territory, but it feels like the beginning   of a new,   you know, a new world, a new adventure, and, you know, call it a new path. Fantastic. It is. It is. It is the begin I think it's the beginning of the change Yeah. That we need  

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Good. That we need. I I feel likewise. Good. Yep. It's a it's a real pro to make It's a proactive thing, and everybody can get involved.   Everybody   Yeah. Needs to get involved, and it's a very   low threshold proposition. Do you wanna get good food direct from the farmers? Because everybody knows you guys need support in as well. So we just need the mechanism to do it, and and Mark's putting it into place with guys like you. Steven, fantastic. Have a cracking week. It's been great having you on. I'll be back in touch via Mark or or yourself, and we'll get you you on to someone else really pretty quickly. Yeah? Just just just just give us a a just message. Give us a ring. Do I'll do that. About 07:30.   I'll do that. So Milkalicious.  

That's Steven from Milkalicious. Thanks very much, Steven. We'll be in touch. Alright.   You're listening to,   Paul English Live here on WBN. We're gonna take a short musical break. And then in hour two,   Monica Schafer will be here with us.  

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I don't care what you care about, whether you care about health, whether you care about the environment, what you care. If if central   control is established through financial transactions   with a digital ID and an all digital monetary system, and it doesn't matter whether it's all digital control privately, all digital control by the central bank,   If if it is an all digital system   and they can combine it with a social credit system   because they've got a digital ID and an all digital monetary system,   suddenly they can control everything. So if they say, oh, we're gonna lock down and you can't leave, you know, you can't go more than five miles from your house, your money won't work more than five miles from your house. If they say you can't buy pizza, your money won't work. If they say your kids   suddenly have to go to a government school a 100 miles away and they're taking them, you know, if you don't do what they say, they turn off your money. It's complete control.  

It's a digital concentration camp, and that can and that's why you cannot allow an all digital monetary system with a digital ID.  

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Christmas ain't what it used to be.   Mhmm.   Nothing is.   Unless it's me getting older.   Things was cheaper though.   A lot cheaper. You could get five cigarettes for tuppence then.   They didn't make them in fives anymore, do they? Well, you never see them. People smoke more, I suppose.   Yeah.   People do seem to be smoking more since the cancer scare.   Worry, I suppose.   Suppose.   There was none of that then either.   What?   Cancer. It was all TB then.   They can cure that now, couldn't they? Yeah.   I suppose as soon as they can cure cancer,   I'll think of something else to worry us with.  

My uncle Wolf used to say he reckoned it was the government.   What?   Used to give us all these diseases.   Tough mum. Well, they put them in our food. That's what he used to say. Mum.   You can taste it in the water sometimes.   That's chloride.   Oh, there you are.   They put that in to improve the water. They don't improve the   taste. My uncle Wilf used to say the only time they've got any use for us, the only time the government's got any use for us is in a war.   Rest of the time he used to say we're an embarrassment   to him.  

Yeah.   He used to say   that they only need so many of us to do the things that need doing, and the rest they'd rather be without.   So they spray our food,   put things in the water to keep us down.   Well, they do it to rabbits.   He used to grow all his own food.   Everything?   Well, all he could. He only had a window box.  

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He only had a window box. Hi. Welcome back. You're listening to Paul English Live here on WBN.   Eric, hi. Welcome back. Did you enjoy that little clip? That was a good one, wasn't it? Oh, I like that one. Yes. Also, I like the banjo music. That was nice. What who who was that? I haven't had a Oh, yeah. I got a lot of that. That's a band called I played them the other week, actually. It's a very rare I I can't find any more albums by him.   A good chap called Coleman, if he's hearing, he probably isn't, out in Chicago, sent me these a few years ago. And Coleman was somebody I connected with via Eli, Eli James, who's on here regularly.   And, yeah. I love all that kind of stuff. It's because Monica's here, and I thought we get we better get some fiddle music because I know I know she's partial to fiddle music. Monica, hi. Good good evening to you. Good afternoon. Greetings.  



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Greetings. Hello. I love the music   and also that little clip. That was just great.   You know, the old the old the old granny, she knew she knew what was going on.  

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Yep. Yep. It's a classic. That that's from a that's an old British sitcom called till death is due part, starring the,   amazing Alf Garnet character. And she was his,   his long enduring wife having to cope with his rants and everything. But, Dandy Nicholls, that was the actress. They it's lovely lovely sort of, and rather appropriate, of course. So we can't play it every week, although we could play it every week because it's appropriate every week right now. So Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, Anyway, how have you been? Because it's a few weeks. I know you've been on with Eric, but it's a few weeks since we spoke. So how are things over there in jolly old Canada? I suppose they're all as happy and as wonderful as they as they were the last time.  

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Oh, blimey. That's good. It she's doing that without moving her lips. That was good. Barber's been twill up with some that. Isn't it? That's under that's under the telephone. Police station telephone. Hello?  

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543.   Yeah. That was wonderful. If I can  

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if I can show it to you, it is an old black antique telephone   from my childhood. This phone is probably   60 years old or so.   You know, it's it's really the ancient kind. Maybe it's even older, sixty sixty five. I don't know. And it still still works.  

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It does.  

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Wow. Things work better. They don't they didn't have built in obsolescence   back   when I was born.   Nope. I don't know. What do you think?   I agree. The built built in obsolescence   got to be more and more of a thing so that nowadays, you buy,   you know, even just a hot water tank. My friend was here the other day, and he's a retired plumber. And he says, I mean, hot water tank now, you're lucky if you get eight years out of it, whereas that should last twenty five years at least.  

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And another thing, your phone wouldn't work in this country because it's all gone over a digital now. So they they you can't use it. Really? Yeah. Do you not have landlines   anymore? Yeah. We have landlines, but they're digital.  

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Oh.  

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So yeah. So that that that old phone wouldn't work.  

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Really? Like, you can't plug it in and it would just be the same? I mean, I I don't wow. Well, yeah. They're disconnecting them all. I think they want everybody on a mobile phone because we we must be tracked. We love being tracked with everything that we do. Oh. And I think that's part of it. For our safety, of course. I mean, our dear  

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our dear leader, dear and as it's I don't know. Do you celebrate   Thanksgiving in Canada,  

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Monica? Well, we have it earlier, you know, because we're in a northern clime. I suppose that's the reason. We have our harvest earlier. And we have ours always the October.   This year, that happened to be October 13. But generally, it's that weekend. So most of the people would have their family, you know, dip big dinner on the Sunday. Oh.   So that's always the yeah. The October,   that determines the the Thanksgiving weekend, so to speak.  

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So what's that what's that in honor of them? What are you we know what the American one is. It's all the pilgrims rocking up on the shore and everything. But what's   what is the date that's commemorated with your Thanksgiving then?  

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Gosh. You know what? I don't know. Other than that, I always thought it was to give thanks for the the good food and the harvest. And you say Yep. That's what I thought Thanksgiving dinner is all about. It's in the name, but I don't know. What what's you you know more than I do about the date for the American Thanksgiving.  

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I don't know as much as Americans do because it's an American thing. I thought it was to do with the, Pilgrim fathers  

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rocking up there, and they gave thanks because they'd found land, and this was the start of a new adventure and everything. I could be wrong. Oh, so it you're saying that if they had found the land in, let's say, April 2 or something, then that would be the Thanksgiving. So it's not to do with the harvesting time of year?  

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No. I don't think so. No. That's why it's in November.   So, you know, they set off here, it took what three or four months to get across. So they must have set off here in the summertime. They probably tried to pick it for the best seas, I guess.   Didn't want the winter seas. They would be rougher and harder, but of course, they arrived there in November. So it must have been a little bit challenging in the last sort of few weeks. I would have thought, I've never had a chance.  

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New.   I learned something new today. It's good to learn something new every day. And Turkish are not native of Europe. But they're imported from America, North America. But I don't think we had tokens in Europe. I think you're right about that. That, you know, the all the food that is   traditionally   served on Thanksgiving,   dinner,   most of it does come from The Americas, I do believe. You know, there's the Brussels sprouts. I don't know. Did you have those in Europe? I don't I'm not sure. I don't know.  

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Yeah. The Brussels sprouts. Right.  

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Cranberries   cranberries are definitely   an  

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North American I think they are. Yeah. I think cranberries are I I think the brussels sprout is an it must be an ancient European thing. I mean, it has to be. I don't know the Yes. We'll probably have to get into the history of vegetables. We're gonna do all sorts of food type shows here. I think vegetable history is gonna be really exciting. I mean, of course, the sprout is is a sort of lethal weapon as well if you eat too many of them. They can Yes. Incapacitate.   They can incapacitate   people quite easily. They're they're quite a serious vegetable.  

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I'd advise drinking tangles. Sorry. Sorry, Eric. Go ahead. I was gonna say, I was I'd advise drinking,   Guinness with brussels sprouts. They go very well together.   I'm gonna eat it. You'd actually eat it. Afterwards.  

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That was not a serious piece of advice, listeners. If you are outside of England, you do not combine Guinness with brussels sprouts. Not if you want to remain   even mildly popular with your friends. You'll lose a That's right. An awful lot of, brownie points on that one. Yeah. Walter Raleigh brought the potatoes, didn't he, Eric? Walter Raleigh brought the potatoes from America. Yes. Walter. That's right. And he bought, tobacco. They come from South America, I think, don't they originally? That's right. Yeah. Yeah. He got around a bit. When he wasn't sort of stealing gold off the Spanish,   all, of course, under the agreement of Elizabeth the first, it was just basically monarchical piracy,   with Sir Francis Drake. He's very good at it, though. Didn't he circumnavigate the world?  

He circumnavigate. Yes. Yeah. He just said, oh, we got about I'll go all the way around. We'll see what's there. So he did that. Bit of a tough lad.   And,   yeah. So He drove Plymouth, didn't he? I think so. Yeah. Yeah. He did. Repeat the name of whom you're talking about right now for us to try. Knighted,   sir Francis   Drake.   He did come to a sticky end though, like many of them did. I think he was put in the Tower Of London. I probably had his head chopped off because,   caught intrigue and stuff like that, but he wasn't really a bad lad. He he's also noted that when Queen Elizabeth was walking along, there was a very large puddle, apparently, so it goes. And he took his cloak off and laid it over the puddle so that she didn't have to get her feet wet. A bit of a smarmy toady, if you ask me. Really sucking up sucking up to the monarch like that. But it didn't do him any favors in the end. I think there was intrigue around it. But, yeah, he brought tobacco here. So we've got we've got him to thank for that. So cigarette smokers, they should all get a packet of Sir Francis Drake's 20 special tipped.  

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And the potato, this is what he's known for, without which we wouldn't have fish and chips. So England would be would be ruined without him. Yeah. And, he he imported fags, didn't he? Sorry. That's an English slag. Slang because a fag is is a cigarette in this country. Yes. It is. But in America, it means something else. Is it a cigarette? Because I know you can go in and say, I'd like 20 fags, please. And you get a very strange look from the Yes. You would. Yes. You would get strange looks because most people think of fag as meaning   something else like that. Yes. Yes. But, no, it's actually,   an English slang term. So it's it's quite polite over in this country,   because, you know, you get blokes saying, oh, must have a fag, which means a cigarette. Yes. But,   the the other thing is, imagine when you get the turkey. Imagine it looks like your prime minister. It makes carving of the turkey far more interesting and joyous, isn't it? You know? It's a   as you part as you're carving it, you know? But,   yes.  

Because we've got,   Norfolk to thank, because that's where most turkeys are bred in Norfolk. And, who was that bloke that bred them? I can't remember. What was his name? Bernard Matthews. Bernard Bernard Matthews. Yes. He he he killed more turkeys than almost any other person on Earth.  

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One of the greatest mass murderers   known to man. It just happens to be of turkeys. Yeah. By the way, on the Walter Raleigh shtick and other little comments here, so, my head's sort of on the on the chat now just having a quick look. Sorry for ignoring you all for an hour there, but it was quite fun there with Steven. But Billy Silver writes that sir Walter   stole it from the Spanish who stole it in the first place. So fair play. Yeah. That's right. It's okay to rob the robber. We're we're okay with that. And,   also Alice Gorgeous, Eric, you'll be keen to know says this, Eric can't say brussels sprouts without sound effects. He'll never grow  

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up.   Hopefully.  

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Hopefully. I think this is true.   I think this is true.   Now   But,  

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yes, it's,   yes. That's the thing with brussels sprouts. And and parsnips as well. They're quite nice as well.  

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I I had I had some sprouts the other day after,   after we went out last after I was swanning about having fun last Thursday and I might even be able to remember what it was all about but I've just been reading so much since then that that's all in my head as well. But,   the next day we went off to a pub around here called The World's End   and,   years ago,   when my lads were young, we used to suck into a lot of tennis tournaments. There's a big sort of tennis,   place nearby. I mean, it's only sort like two miles from from here. It's a very local drive, very big sort of tennis place.   And after we'd finished tournaments and things there, we used to go up there and and eat as you do, you know. When they were very young though, we took them down. They had this,   you know those rotating   sort of sauces where you get ketchup and brown sauce and mustard and in a big sort of silver little bowls and they rotate on a little you know those sorts of things that I'm talking about in restaurants and you all have a bit of this. Anyway, my my son who was in a highchair at the time, my youngest son,   saw this yellow stuff and immediately thought it was custard   but it turned out to be English mustard and he put a whole spoon in his mouth, poor little bugger on his face. So, we didn't get any photographs but we should have done and, yeah. So this is the same place and I was boring the waitresses with this tiresome story the other day.  

But, I had a good I had a sort of turkey lunch there. It was very very nice   and then I thought,   what was the price of that? It came to about £30, I think, with a with a pudding and stuff like this and it was very exotic. This is Friday lunchtime and I thought, oh this is actually outrageous. I've been out three times in a week. I mean that's not happened in years.   I thought I'd asked them. I said, no. It's a bit late. I was feeling a bit sort of festive. I said, is there any chance of getting a table for Christmas day? And they said, well, we're fully booked but there's a few people not put a deposit down yet. I said, okay. So let's take your details and if if they don't want to do it, we'll let you know. So I said, cool, that's   okay. So Monday or Tuesday, they sent me an email saying, hey, nobody wants to do it, you can come. I said, oh, that's great. Cool. They give me a menu when I left, right?  

And I hadn't looked at it   and it's kind of bland the deal a bit because, my son, the one who actually ate the mustard twenty years ago, he actually said, 'mhmm' he said, 'Dad this is a bit pricey'. I said, oh really?   Turns out   same sort of meal but the Christmas Day version,   per head a 110 pounds.   Oh.   And I was gonna pay for four and I thought £440   for one meal. Wow. I I thought I couldn't bear it. I just can't, I can't, I can't. If it was double I'd go, yeah it's Christmas Day, you know it's once a year, that's fine we might do that. So now I'm going to be toiling over a hot turkey and boiling it in the in the oven or whatever you do with it and getting that ready. So I just thought I'd let you know. And we will be doing a Christmas Day show, Monica. So I'm just letting you know because this show falls on Christmas Day this year,   which will be the December.  

So I'm sorry about that. But if you want to join us, you're more than welcome. Although, you've probably got a life. But me and Eric don't have one, and neither do any of the listeners. Well, they do. They probably have a life. Other than you're gonna be preparing your turkey. No? Or you will be finished eating your turkey. Oh, yeah. Well before that. You'll probably fall asleep. You'll probably fall asleep in the middle of the show. Oh, yeah. That would make it fun. We could have a turkey sleep first. I'll just take fifteen minutes. Would you put a lot of records on in the middle? So we need a nap now. There's a there's a chemical in turkeys. I couldn't remember. If anybody knows, just type it in. There's it contains something, does turkey, that chicken, for example, does not contain. I forgot the name of it. Oh. And that that's what makes you go to sleep. It's it's in the turkey meat quite naturally.   Yeah. It's a Yes. It's like it's a slumbersome thing that's in there. Those evil turkeys. They're they're gonna take over the world by getting everybody to eat them and then you all fall asleep. They'll   rise up. There'll be a turkey rebellion before we know it. I don't know. But,  

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yeah. Yeah.   But they're the ugliest. I I think they're the ugliest bird in the world. I mean, they're not exactly attractive. I mean, how did I get it? I don't know. I've seen a few up in the world. They've got very bad eyes. They've got a bad eyesight, have they? I mean, you know, I mean, the most sort of what what is it? Gobble gobble.   Yes. Yes. And, the stupid ones vote for Christmas, don't they? Look forward to it   or Thanksgiving.  

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Well, unfortunately, we seem to mimic them in in to some degree by people still voting for political parties and things like that. So Yes.   Yeah. Anything on your mind, Monica? I don't mind if there's nothing. You could just start whistling or playing your fiddle if you like. I'm in a very relaxed mood tonight.  

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Is Alfred alright? Yeah. Thanks, Eric, for asking about Alfred. So   I haven't yet received direct   news from him.   Mail goes slowly, and I don't think he's received   my letters yet or maybe there's something on the way. But, anyway,   he is in Bernau,   Au, which is Southeast   of Munich   on the.   Now he has been to that prison before   when he went for the six month   jail term for showing how high his dog, Pavlov, can jump in during the previous jail term.   So he was put, you know, essentially in a cage for for just doing that nice little straight arm gesture   in the courtyard, you know, like, an it's it you can't make this stuff up. But, anyway, he was there. That was from,   August   2023   till February   2024.  

And at that time, he had actually   a very reasonable   time and, like, a good time there considering he was in prison because he was was working   in the gardens   or the greenhouses. I'm not sure. But, anyway, he   had that all day. He could work amongst the plants and   and fresh air, and it was just   wonderfully therapeutic   to be doing that. Now he I know from his wife that he has   asked them for   a job in the gardens again, but they told him that those were those positions were filled, you know, with other prisoners already.   And so I don't know. I don't have any further update from that. But if people would like to write a letter,   you can find his address on either of the two websites,   freespeechmonica.com   or truthandjusticeforgermans.com.  

And you can find his address. And I I just wanna emphasize again how important it is for the prisoners to receive mail. I know that when for me, it was really, really, really difficult   to   the political prisoners   that the political prisoner is not forgotten,   that people are noticing, people are watching it, and people are supportive. And now sometimes people ask me, you know, how much can they write?   I mean,   just you can or how much should there what should they write? They don't know what to write because they don't know them. They've never met them. They're not a personal friend or relative or whatever, but that part doesn't matter. I mean, it can range anything from just sending a nice postcard with   a greeting on it or sending a a letter, like, just, you know, in an envelope.  

And   you couldn't write anything really, just a greeting.   Say, you know, your   your your,   make it friendly. And, I mean, sometimes people would write to me about their   their latest walk in the woods and   and describe nature to me, and I found those to be so beautiful   to read. So even things like that are good, but you can write about, you know, what's going on, where you are. You can write about anything really. In in Germany,   at least that's our that's our experience. The mail,   most of it gets through. I mean, there were some things that were held back for me,   which were ridiculous. For example,   a letter they showed it to me in the office, but they said, I can't have it. And they put it into the storage for when I got out, then I got the letter. But it was a letter from a friend in in The United States and on she used   a a a picture   and of   the, Dresden   scene after the allies had bombed it to smithereens   and burnt it out. And there's quite a famous picture   that is, you know, widely   seen on the Internet and whatnot of Dresden. And that was on one side of the paper. On the other side of the paper, she hand wrote her letter. She used that essentially as letter paper. Well, they didn't let me have that because   they deemed it too dangerous.  

Think about the irony of that.   They they what what were what was dangerous about it?   I mean, here,   I guess for them I don't know. Did did the picture for them, they thought, oh, it depicts   the outcome of violence. And but you think about it. This was Dresden, a German city. I was in a German prison.   The bombed out ruins of a German city   was too dangerous for me to have in my prison cell.   I don't know. What were they thinking? That that was bizarre to me. So okay. This is a long story short. Some things   do get held back. So people are always wondering, well, if you're writing to Alfred for the first time,  

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just make it quite quite a neutral thing. You can really write about anything. Write about Could you have pictures of anything, though? I mean, you suppose you took a nice country view and took a picture of it and stuffed it. Would they allow that through, or is it Yes.  

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Yes. They do allow   photos. I think there was there were rules about how many photos I could have in my cell at any one time. So then   I'd have to put some into storage if there were too many on my pin board, for example, if people's but people were allowed to send photos.  

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I suppose books would be out the question. No. Yeah. Exactly. Books. Yeah. Don't send a book.  

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It won't well, it'll just be stored and and then, you know, they don't just burn it or confiscate it, but it'll go into the storage.   And You get that afterwards. I mean, do you like And then Yeah. Yeah. When he gets released, he can take it home. But there's no point in sending a book.   Yeah. It won't get to him.   So just letters.  

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It's gotta be re the reading that they want you to read. Not not nothing else. Well, no. Actually, I'll tell you something.  

[01:26:20] Unknown:

Alfred   read a lot of books   during, you know, the the when he was in jail for a long time. He read a lot of books and there was a a prison library. And, you know, he read   in there were quite amazing books there available for the prisoners to read. For example,   he read   the, Gulag   Archipelago   books by   Alexander Solzhenitsyn.   Those were in the prison library. He read all that. He read Alexander Solzhenitsyn   in the German prison.   Wow. I bet Mein Kampf isn't in there though. No. Probably not. And he he read Gone with the Wind, which is such a famous   story about the South Yep. Which now I think they wanna ban it from school libraries because it has a little bit it depicts the South   Of The United States in a more accurate way and in a   favorable way to the people there instead of just vilifying them just like they vilify all Germans for all time. You know? So the southerners, they get the same treatment as the Germans do in terms of falsified history   and, you know, depicting the Southerners as as being really bad.  



[01:27:30] Unknown:

It's the same sort of propaganda tactic repeated   multiple times throughout history whenever they wanna demonize an enemy.   Happens Correct. Every single time. It really does. Yes. I caught somebody kindly sent me,   and I do mean this as well. You might,   an interview with Piers Morgan.   Now, if you know Piers Morgan  

[01:27:52] Unknown:

I've seen him.  

[01:27:54] Unknown:

Yeah. Okay. So he's not our finest export, but he's he's professional at what he does. I think that's what we can say. And I'm sure, maybe, I could have a conversation with him where where I might enjoy 5% of it, but the rest of it's gonna be pretty difficult for someone like me. Anyway, Tucker Carlson interviewed him. I've not watched or listened to the whole thing. I've just got through the first forty minutes but,   I had to stop because I was getting quite wound up. You know when you watch something and you can't control yourself? I thought this is ridiculous. Right? I've got to stop this.   The The reason I was getting wound up well, it was illustrative of something as well,   which is,   I think many people here that tune in and and have heard you or me or Eric over the years know where we're at with our observations regarding the perversions of history, particularly with regards to the last century.  

And,   we you know, I forget.   I just can't help it because I don't want to spend time in the space of the accepted lie. I don't want to do that. It's I know what it is. I know it backwards. It was taught to me at school and it's a waste of my time, basically. But I when when they got round to talking, they're talking about the decay of England. It's quite brilliant, really. Because Tucker Carlson's defending   the English   and,   Piers Morgan is   just mad. He's he's I mean, he's not a lefty,   but he's tolerant of things which are completely in line with wiping us out without being able to see it. And this is   this is interesting but it is infuriating to hear it as well at the same time. I did. I found, oh look, I'm getting a bit cross. I don't normally get cross recently. I've been kind of calm but sometimes I guess it's good for something to get your goat. Anyway, they got round to just talking.  

Carlson brings up,   what has happened to this country since 1945   to Britain? Why is it why is it falling apart? Because they're not likely to get to the answer with the context that they've got. They're not like Although Carlson's much closer to it because   he had that   I've forgotten his name now, but maybe six months back he had an American chaplain, of course, who was denigrated as being a sort of hobbyist historian.   For me I read, yeah, a person who's done his own independent research and therefore is much more likely to be telling the truth, which turned out to be the case. I've forgotten his name. It was an excellent interview and it caused quite a a ruck on Twitter and things like this.   And, Carlson's talking to him about what's happened.  

He doesn't really know and I don't expect them to really really know because they'd have to talk about things that they really are not allowed to talk about as you well know. Right? But,   the gist of it was at this particular point,   Morgan starts to basically defend,   not in a big way, it was just sort of a passing part of the thing but it's enough to sort of get my go. Churchill's actions that they, he said what did he say? He said, yeah. They brought him out of retirement because he was the only one that could spot the danger and and he basically saved the country. And I'm sort of puking here at home. I'm puking, really. Yeah. Sort of emotionally   want to vomit,   at the sheer stupidity of what he's just said. I mean, it's just asinine. And then as I'm listening to this, I'm thinking this is what I'm saying. I don't spend time in the mainstream narrative.  

Why would you when you've pried around in things for fifteen twenty years and you really know the score? And I just thought, good grief. It's true. I've got to remind myself the vast majority of people still   adhere   to that story and don't examine it. Carlson began to sort of examine it a bit where he said to me said he said, yeah, but Germany didn't declare war on you.   And, Morgan's response was he said, well, no. He said, they hadn't even invaded England. Well, no. But, they were going to. At which point I'm saying Oh. Yeah. But but there are 37 letters of peace offerings in Kew Gardens. That's right. Morgan, don't you know about those? Don't you know about the Anglo German union between people like admiral,   Donville and others to try and avert this at all costs. The military men knew exactly how stupid it all was.  

And,   but, you know, I had to just hear him say this and I thought, well, this is the sort of conversation that's gonna take place in a pub all over the place even now. And I'm reminded of, of just another observation which won't be new to either of you here or most of the listeners which is that,   we still live this is what struck me again I thought good grief we actually really do still live under the shadow of the complete misunderstanding   of what was taking place there because Morgan   from that understanding cannot possibly be able to understand   what's happened to here and Western Europe after 1945   without tunneling into the dirty roots of the whole thing. He's never gonna get   it.  

And there's unfortunately millions of other people like that that are only gonna hear his side of things.   In spite of the fact that we've got people like David Irving and Alfred Schaeffer and others and Monica Schaeffer and people here who've spoken out about this is to do with the scale of the platform. So but Carlson, I've got to give him his credit. Anyway, that's only forty minutes in. I think I've got about forty five minutes to go and apparently, I've been told it kicks off even more because, Carlson f's and blinds a couple of times which I was quite impressed with. There's a few f bombs in there and, it's shot in London.   Yeah. He couldn't even get in. I mean, when he kept he was saying to him, he said, when I came into the airport, he said they had to check me out again. Morgan finds this rather amusing. I find it really sinister and disgusting and wretched. But, and Carlson also makes some really it's very interesting always, I'm sure Americans would like this, to get the reflection of an Englishman who'd been in America for a bit. I can't give you that because I've not been there for a long time.  

But when you see Americans that have moved here recently and their observations of the British way of life, it reminds you of many of the things that we know are disappearing. This is what is saddening in a way.   I love it that they're enchanted with certain things and it reminds me of that. But also you see that that it's going and this is what Carlson's talking about. He said, look, he said, I'm a comp basically, he says, I'm an anglophile.   He said,   you know, this is the biggest empire so called that ever existed. He He said, and you did a lot of good things. That's the gist of it. I'm going, you know, we did actually. There's a lot of good stuff. And he's talking about common law and Magna Carta and the first country really to enforce freedom of speech. This is eight hundred years ago, right, nearly? And all these sorts of things that have been fought for and lost and have to be fought for again and again and again and again, and we're right in the middle of one right now. It's really massive. I think even the food stuff with Steven just now is addressing a really singular and very important part of it. And he was just saying, he said, if you look at old photographs, he said, of England, he said, everybody's smartly dressed. We've talked about this, Eric, haven't we? He said, everybody's smartly dressed. He said, the place is really clean and tidy   And this is and this this observation is good as well.  

He talks about Carlson starts talking about the Red Indians. And now I I you've got to sort of take it both ways. There's some good aspects. There's some very very bad aspects to Red Indian behavior.   I should know because I've just started reading Thomas Goodrich's for the second time,   his story about the West and this title escapes me. I should have it in front of me. Is that Yes. Scowdance. I just I just read through three or four chapters of it last night to shudderingly remind myself of how foul   that fight was after the civil war.  

People don't realize that it's never been covered right at all. It's just been romanticized. It's complete baloney as usual. You've got to and if you want the truth on historical stuff, Tom's your man. And God bless him. He passed away about a year ago this month. So hope you're doing okay, Tom. And,   you he makes but Carson makes this observation. He said he said, Red Indians. He said, in these accounts   that they had, he said, although they were savage fighters,   the the American troops military respected them because of their dignity   in a way. They did have that. They had a great strength about them. He said, and now what are they like? He said, they're not a stupid people, he said, but they are a defeated people.  

Right? In the heart, we've got to pay note to this. It's true. He said, and and they get plenty of money, and yet they're not alive in the way that they were. And he said, when I look at the English,   I'm looking at the same thing, and it and it gave me the creeps, and I thought he's absolutely right. He said, and it ain't just England. It's all over what we would use to refer to as Christendom. This is true. So I'm not gonna use the word defeated, heavily demoralized at the moment.   I don't go in for defeat because we're gonna rise up again, you know, through food and other channels.  

[01:36:21] Unknown:

That whole topic about the North American Indians,   I'm very   close to this topic. And Yeah.   I have a little bit of a different take on on this, you know, what's going on with them now than certainly the mainstream. I mean, they are concocting   the narrative right before our very eyes, which, you know, you soon can go to jail for   asking for evidence for   their ludicrous   claims.   But anyway,   that that's a huge topic, and and I've spoken about it many, many times, and and I will continue to do so. I did a little protest action a couple of weeks ago, which I can tell you about if you if you like. But be first, I would really like to,   just comment on I listened to most of the first hour there   with your guest,   Steven Yeah. About farming and and mostly talking about raw milk and whatnot because he's a dairy farmer. Of course, that makes sense.  

And   I was yeah.   This is something   did you know that it's illegal   to   sell   or buy raw milk in Canada?   I I mean, that tells you mentioned it on a previous show, but it's good to be reminded of this That tells you something. I mean Yeah. When the government makes something illegal such as raw milk, then you know it's really, really good for us. Mhmm. Because,   gee, I heard that, you know or I'm finding out the government isn't always doing something   for us even though they tell us, oh, this is for your own safety, and this is for your own good, and we love you so much. We just wanna take such good care of   you.  

So, yeah, raw milk. It it's only if you own the cow.   So   that's it. You know? But they how do they do this? How do they get away with making things like raw milk or raw milk cheese   against the law? Well, they   invent   some sickness, some illness that somebody got. So, oh, somebody died of   raw milk. You know? Some disease that they got from the raw milk. That's how they do it. Right? Then they get everybody to think   raw milk is dangerous   for you. It's very dangerous. So you wouldn't wanna have that. And we better   make a law about it because we wanna protect you all from getting that disease that somebody got. You see? So I oh, I would love to ask Steven that question, how he would respond to that one. Mhmm. And,   you might take note of that for the next time you have him on because I I know you did say that you would like to have him back on. I think he's gonna be popping up all over the place.  



[01:39:06] Unknown:

It's funny that his his actual audio connection tonight was nowhere near as good as the one I got with him this afternoon. It was absolutely crystal clear this afternoon. It's unfortunate,   but that's live broadcasting. Sometimes we just get things a bit bogged down, but he's a very lively guy.   He's very live. And you can it's like there's a,   a complete   it's like there's a dam being put on him, and behind it, there's about 10,000,000,000,000   words that need to come out, and he's got to be heard. And he's not the only one. I suspect many of the farmers   are in this extremely energized,   and focused state because of what's happening to them. And and in a way, you know, they're they're absolutely the place for us all to focus because,   whenever a people are enslaved,   the steady and slow enslavement and subjugation   and subduing of people's spirits   takes place through the control of the food that they give them to eat.  

This is it's just   it's just absolute I know it sounds mad but it's true. I mean, in Yes. True. In   in 2031,   a mere what, six years from now, it will be the seven hundred and fiftieth anniversary of the Peasants Revolt here in England in 1381,   which is not spoken about anywhere near enough and it's massively important   and it also tells us yet again that there's nothing new under the sun.   Absolutely nothing   and,   what occurred there   was that the,   the feudal lords   would share notes   on how much food to give the serfs working on their land. They would it's like a big communications exchange.   The aim was to feed the peasants just enough to keep them working, but not enough to make them strong.  

It's as simple as Yeah. And so this is by So that's seven hundred and fifty years ago and you can bet they didn't invent that.   Whenever people are taking over you control, in other words, it's the soft kill that's the devastating one. A bit like I would suggest what we're undergoing here in terms of the culture. All of the things are basically   they're being mangled.   Everything is being hideously   mangled, you know, from the architecture to the clothing to everything,   and that's why we've got this kind of distressed   energy about us because we are distressed. We're a distressed people at the moment, not just here in England, but across the West. You can see it. Slobism is on the rise. People are overweight all over the place. The food industry has played its role in that. And I think, obviously, you know, linking through to the pharmaceutical   industry, they're just basically viewing us as a as a lump of meat to harvest.  

They'll they'll tax harvest you first and then they want you to pay for medicine that you wouldn't have to take if you were eating good food. So they make sure that the food's not that good. And also,   by having it distributed   across   European distribution and North American distribution networks, they can control you through that because the middlemen control the distribution networks just like they do in banking, just like they do with the Internet. It's the middle guy. The exchange point is where all the trouble starts. They have to take their cut, apparently, you know, and it ends up in a thousand cuts for the peasants like you and I, all that kind of stuff.  

[01:42:21] Unknown:

Yes.   That's so Go ahead,  

[01:42:24] Unknown:

Eric. Oh, thank you. They're pushing all this vegetarian stuff,   like vegetarian burgers and things like that. And when you look back in history, it was the royalty that had the swan they ate swan, they ate   meat. They and it the peasants   that ate the grains.   Mhmm. Because they wanted the peasants to be strong when they're young. But when they got old, there'd be a liability. So they wanted them to pop their clogs quickly.  

[01:42:49] Unknown:

So they fed them on lower grade grains and things. They didn't have meat. Yep. But the royalty had meat. But going back I've got something let me just jump in there. Remember what you're gonna say because I've got a list in front of me. Right? This is really intro medieval England 13.   I've just found it. I I've lost a lot of things for the show in my my bumblesomeness this week but I haven't lost this one.   There were in medieval England in the thirteen hundreds there were things called sumptuary   laws.   Sumptuary laws are things that basically constrain people over what they can eat and wear.  

Okay? Not good. Really really bad.   Bad bad stuff. Sumptuary laws.   Sumptuary laws legally restricted peasants too.   Dark bread rye and barley, vegetable stew, root vegetables,   and watered ale. Now, watered ale was standard anyway. It's half a percent alcohol and the reason for that was that people were defecating in all the rivers and therefore you couldn't rely on rivers for good drinking water. You couldn't do it. At least they knew that the beer had been they had to boil the water before they made the beer and all this kind of stuff.   Hunting meat. If you hunted meat, you'd be executed for that. Okay? This in '30 This in England. Right? You'd be executed if you hunted hunted the king's deer like Robin Hood did. Okay? Can't do that. Nobles ate roasted meats daily, game birds, venison, boar. Venison always sounds so fabulous, doesn't it? Butter, cream, cheese, white bread, and wine. Nobles lived twenty to thirty years longer.  

They were taller, stronger, healthier.   So in the thirteen fifties, peasants were legally restricted to grains and minimal meat. Twenty twenty five   dietitians are recommending what? Grains and minimal   meat.  

[01:44:38] Unknown:

Great.  

[01:44:40] Unknown:

Just it's the same agenda just delivered today with modern high-tech advertising,   and earnest guys in lab coats telling you that you shouldn't eat meat and all this kind of other stuff.   Yep.  

[01:44:52] Unknown:

History repeating itself every time.   Mhmm. But what I was going to say, going back to Churchill,   apparently, we went into we we we,   went to Poland's aid for its freedom in 1939   when war was declared on Germany.   But in 1945,   they're quite happy to give away Poland's freedom   to the Soviet Union.   Weird, ain't it? Yep. I think it's true.  

[01:45:21] Unknown:

Well, they also failed to mention in that little brief exchange that,   that Russia also invaded Poland, but we didn't wage war on them.  

[01:45:29] Unknown:

Precisely.   Precisely.   And   we had a similar agreement with Tibet. And in 1964,   when China invaded Tibet, we didn't declare war on China either.   How strange. Mhmm.   So, you know, it's,   it's surprising what they can dig up when they want to.   And   it as I've always said, is a war that should never have happened. And that's well, that's what my father's always said when he was alive. It should never have happened.   You know?  

[01:45:58] Unknown:

It was basically   a war meant to,   you know, kill the best  

[01:46:06] Unknown:

Yeah. Brothers kill the best of them. Right? It's a brothers' war. That's all we need to do. Yeah.  

[01:46:11] Unknown:

Yeah. But misled brothers.   This is the thing.  

[01:46:14] Unknown:

Absolutely. Because they All of them were deceived.  

[01:46:17] Unknown:

All of them. I'm paraphrasing that from Tolkien, but all of them were deceived and they were. And many know it now.   Many many know it. Of course, they've just waited so long till they've all died off, which most of them, of course, would do because it's been a long time.   But,   this is why these people can't explain what's taken place   fully. It's always   it there's there's a massive hole in the narrative that they're giving in terms of the mainstream narrative around these events.   They they don't they don't understand that there's a an agenda at play, and, of course, they always fail to take into account the role that the banks play in these things. It's such a Mhmm. Surface observation based on emotion   and rage and revenge and what and they can't do that. And he, you know, he was gonna take over the whole of Europe. Really?  

Really, was he?   Oh, the whole world. Not even just the whole of Europe. Absolutely. You know, because it's just logical. That's what that's what an intelligent people would do. They would start to wage war on everybody all at the same time. Not  

[01:47:18] Unknown:

dense. What the what those who perpetrated the war, and we know who they are Yep. They project   onto their intended victim that what they are doing. Because   they   are wishing to   rule the world and, you know, they're   they're   fast at it right now.   Yep. You know, when when when this COVID scam   started, wasn't it,   interesting how   media from   all over the world were using the same buzzwords, the same   same   same phrases   to talk talk about what's going on with, you know, COVID.   And   how could that be? Unless it was,   you know, a hidden hand   that is directing this.  

So there but, you know, this   they're they do make   they go a bit crazy when they think they've got it all done, and they make a lot of mistakes, and people are waking up. I   I am not pessimistic   about   outcome in the end. I mean, it's pretty   dark times right now. We're living in interesting times, but you could say also very exciting time to be alive.   Yep. It it's an an amazing time to be alive, actually. Like, the   what is going on right now, this is   a pivotal point in our history.   And   Alfred sometimes says,   what our ancestors   would give   just to come back for even just a day to to   be with us right now   in this time that we are alive?  

You know?   So that's   one way to look at it for people who might get discouraged by what's going on right now, but   we are all at a at a time in history. We we can   each and every one of us can   do something.   And it's not up to us to prescribe what that is.   Because if we told you what to do, that would only take away your own capability, your own imagination of what you can do   in this war that is you know, we did not start this war. We did not want this war, but we do find ourselves in a war. So   it is up to every one of us to   do something,   be a warrior. And it's not conventional   warfare   that we know. It it's not conventional   warfare with,   you know, guns and bombs and trenches. Although,   guns and bombs are being dropped in parts of the world where they shouldn't be being dropped, but I think you all know what I mean. This war is against us   in in   what you call the West.  



[01:50:09] Unknown:

Yep.   Yeah. So warfare that's based on,   using the the sort of channels of civilizational   control   against the people that built the civilization.   It's like, it's a virus,   and it's infected   what we would say is the,   not always weak mind but the psychopathic and liberal minded type of individual.   I know there's a I see a lot of shows now really tunneling into psychologically   profiling how these people have come about, the condition that they're in. One of the things that Carlson was saying in the interview   was he said that,   there are certain white people that he cannot stand   and I know exactly what he's talking about. He was talking about the people that write for The Guardian.  

So he's up to speed. I don't know if you know what The Guardian is, Monica, but it's just this Oh, yes. I I used to oh, yes. I used to subscribe for years until I Yeah. Woke up. Yeah. Well, it wasn't always it wasn't the the sort of insane asylum that it's become.   It, you know, all of these newspapers when you look into the history, it started off as the Manchester Guardian a long time ago and it was needed at the time. It was counterpoint to try and represent the working man who was having the verbal, you know, excrement kicked out of him. So many of these things, if you look at the start of nearly all of these things, liberalism at the time in the eighteen hundreds, you look at them in the context of the times, they make complete sense.   They they really do. They were having to deal with something else but So they all start off good. They all then become powerful and as soon as there's power there, they immediately begin to cave in   because there's a certain sort of power acquisitive   group and groupings that move in there and pervert them away from their original cause while still retaining the name. You You know, we've had people over here still voting for Labour. I guess somewhere in their head, they think it's the Labour Party that used to exist just after the war when there seems to have been a need for it. Although, you know, with hindsight and stepping back further, you see that it's basically just soft kill communism. That's really what it was. It's always moving towards that.  

But at the time, its appeal was strong because they were fed up of of being bossed around. And, you know, if you look at if we look at, say, the peasants revolt, and I'm just going back to it, you've got really a very distinctive   class system. It's it's never gone away from here.   Highly distinctive based on cruelty.   Terrible cruelty to the peasants that revolted. They had their heart, their hands and feet chopped off. They were hung.   The king went it was only 14 years of age at the time, Richard the second. Right? 14.   He died at 30. He reneged on all his promises.  

And, in deliberations with what Tyler out in the marketplace, they killed him.   The the mayor came up and stabbed him in the neck and killed him. But they all drew round him and pretended that they'd had a little discussion to the crowd.   The this sort of lust for control and the complete indifference to the welfare of the very people   that are that form part of the the overall club, the major part I would suggest. The only club worth being in is the peasant club and I'm a founding member or at least I'm a current member of it.   You know, they just treat them like dirt. I'm, you know, I'm not saying anything new here but these things are repeated. So the savagery in English history needs to be known and people don't know it. They've still got a rosy picture about certain kings and monarchs. And when you look into what they did, it's all about this lust for the acquisition and retention of power. I mean, we had the Wars of the Roses over it. That's what it was. It's just a big massive fight for decades.  

People literally slaughtering one another all over England nonstop   because of this requirement for human beings to at least have some dignity in their life, you know. So they found a subtler way to deal with it after that, but but now they've had enough of us, you know. They sort of burnt us all out, and most of Europe during the twentieth century. Now it's time for communism, everybody. It's gonna Globalism is gonna save the world. No. It ain't. It's what's caused all the trouble in the first place. It's been the viper in the bosom, as we all well know, I I suspect.   Yeah.  



[01:54:14] Unknown:

When I was in at university,   that would have been in the late seventies, early eighties in Edmonton, Alberta,   I remember there was   something like, propaganda   piece being handed out at whatever events or just students on campus. And it was a little post   card that had a picture an image, not a picture, but an image of the globe,   and   one world government   printed at the top. Like, it was an open   statement   about how, you know, one world government we should all,   you know, strive towards one world government. Do I ever wish I had kept   samples of that   propaganda, but I didn't over the years. You know, you don't keep everything that you ever collected.  

But that would be so interesting to have that little piece of evidence that from then,   and then to maybe research who was putting this out, who what's what's the group, you know, what's the name of the organization, and who are they affiliated with.   But, you know, in recent years when I've been learning so much about, you know, real history and what's going on in the world,   I have often thought about that   that, you know, late seventies or early eighties at the University of Alberta, there were campus   groups. Somebody was handing out these   cards that were   were, you know,   saying, we should have one world government.  



[01:55:41] Unknown:

It is wow.  

[01:55:44] Unknown:

Amazing, isn't it? Yep.  

[01:55:46] Unknown:

But it's I remember those things because it seemed appealing at the time.   It's all to do with what the current sort of mood is with the news cycle.   It doesn't really matter what the ideas are. It's always nudge, nudge, nudge towards more centralized control of everything and with it, the loss of the true vibrancy of local and street and family life.   The more power is centralized, the worse it gets. It's literally a cancer. It's like when we're talking about cities as well, you know, in terms of living in them,   and everything that happened to the people in England that were pulled off the land during the Industrial Revolution.  

They bred these hovels which Dickens talks about. That's what was going on. Just grinding people through the industrial revolution. Of course, we look at it. We go, well, we create some great stuff. Well, someone did. Yeah. But there's a lot of people lives were absolutely destroyed by that.   Exo has written quite a few times in here about the textile mills and stuff like that in England up in the eighteen hundreds. The the average life of an English worker was way way shorter than an African slave in America.   Shorter. Yeah. Just work to death. And and that's the eighteen hundreds. The Peasants Revolt's the thirteen hundreds. They're doing exactly the same thing now. It's just done with a bit more sophistication.  

And we do live a more comfortable life. They've put us but what they've done now is they put us in a gilded cage to some degree.   And they've worn out the quality of the soul as it were. They burnt that bit. They burnt that bit. Anyway, we're coming to the end of hour two, and we're about to depart from,   WBN.   So,   we'll be back again same time on WBN next week, 3PM. Everybody in The States that's listening in have a fantastic rest of Thanksgiving Day. Hopefully, you all eat far too much turkey and fall asleep for the rest of the day, but it's peaceful and you have good slumbers. We'll As I said, we'll be back again the same time next week. We're gonna have a little song then we're carrying on into the third hour. If you wanna join us, go over to paulenglishlive.com   and you can click the rumble or youtube link   and other links there, and we'll carry on. We'll play another little this is another little fiddle song. I just found one, especially for you, Monica. This is another nice one. Oh, thank you. And this is farming. This is called Sally in the turnip patch. Right? Sally in the turnip patch. Sounds good. Yeah. We'll be back after this.  



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I used to believe everything I'd see on the news, but that's before I discovered  

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a brain. A brain is meant for everyday use.   Those living with moderate to severe stupidity have seen immediate improvement in common sense with a brain.  

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I thought the government had my best interest at heart, and then a friend told me about a brain.  

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Oh, well, I've just put mine back in. I just put mine back in.   Yes.  

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That was  

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priceless. That was great. Well, during the lockdown, plenty of people said, I'm sorry. I can't wear a mask because I've got FFB.   And,   FFB, yes, fully functioning brain.   But,   no, it's it's it's I think that   the way we are now, I'm I'm optimistic also, Paul, because I think something that we least expect will turn up. When you look through history,   something unexpected does turn up. And I actually think that people like Keir Starmer are a blessing in disguise,   because they're showing people how evil   communism is.   Because most communism look at Chairman Mao, the peasants got him in because he promised them all kinds of goodies, and then did a u-turn once he got into power.  

But Keir Starmer doesn't promise all kinds of goodies. So he's shown us how evil communism is from the beginning. So   maybe,   you know, things are not that black. Just wonder what your your feelings are on this. Well, I thought Stephen addressed it  

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as well, where he said that the one thing that they're thankful of of this government   is that it's pulling all the farmers together.   Yes. Yeah. Because they're having to they are pushing their agenda so fast   that, you know, even normal people are saying things like there's something not quite right. Now we've been saying things like that for decades. Right? So we go, well, yeah. That's obvious. But it hasn't it's never been obvious to them.   You've got, you know, we've got to keep our eyes peeled all the time looking for good signs out there amongst what we would call, you know, your average working joe, as it were, because it's happening.   It is happening. And I think the thing about the food stuff,   is that it it's,   the overlap, the footprint of it covers pract well, it covers everyone.  

In other words, it's something that we've all we actually do all have in common. Probably everybody's eaten some food today, and they're gonna do the same tomorrow and the day after that, and as long as they keep living. So it's it's not you don't need to go into some big intellectual discussion   about its importance. People are hardwired with it. I mean, getting across the idea   or the understanding that there are actually better quality foodstuffs and that there really is a way   to improve it. I mean, I was reading that thing.   I mentioned this guy Jurian Jenks. Right? Really interesting guy. I mean, he's worth looking up. Anybody that's called Jurian for a state, j o r I a n.  

And,   he was   he was born into a very wealthy family   and,   got a very good education   and wasn't interested   in the path laid out for him. He wanted to be a farmer.   And, so he went down to New Zealand, studied that for a bit,   came back, set up a farm. Maybe I said this earlier in the show. I don't know. I said it earlier to Stephen today,   and it went bust. His farm went bust because it was the late twenties early thirties with the Wall Street thing,   and, he really began to look into the whole thing. He discovered, of course, that the political parties are useless and that they were much more interested in   international trade.  

That's what globalism was called back then. They wouldn't have called it. It wasn't fully as fleshed out and and as mad as it is now, but that was the beginning of it, international trade.   And therefore, they couldn't they they don't understand farming. They don't. City types don't. You remember that guy, that clip that I played? I can't remember his name. That lunatic.   Seriously,   the guy that was the aid to Blair. I can't remember. He's muck something or other. He was interviewed Oh, yes. On talk radio and he said, well, we should do to the small farmers what Margaret Thatcher did to the miners. And the the interview goes, what? This has just gone very very weird. And he goes on, he said, yeah, we don't need them. He doesn't because he's mentally ill.   Because he's he's literally   mentally ill. He's an ideologist   and his ideology is Fabian Socialism and all this other guff that they've been imbibing   in their cozy city university   life. That's all he knows,   You know? But he certainly shouldn't be let anywhere near the That's right. The reins of power.  



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And I can guarantee he lives in a crap hole and nowhere near the country. They always are city people.   They are they live in the heart of cities. They don't know what the countryside   is like even.   And, I mean, what's happening,   in   Canada,   Monica, regarding farmers? Are they up in arms about what's happening? Should we You know? In The UK? There were there were actually some  

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tractors   going to the cities, and I didn't really,   see much about it. I didn't really follow it closely. I was,   you know, preoccupied with so many other aspects of our our war here. But, yes, there farmers are up in arms in Canada, for sure.   Like, you're not gonna   get people driving their tractors   en masse like that unless they are really,   you know, mad.   So   excuse me.   So yeah, I mean, what lately   well, not lately. Actually, for a long time, they've been killing a lot of farm animals, always in the name of   Oh, yes. Protecting us from disease. Right? Yep. And the latest was the ostrich.   They they killed all those ostriches, and that that kinda went around the world. It became a famous case.  

It was a little bit different with the ostrich case because they were not food animals,   and they were not raising them for eggs either as far as I know.   And they had said something about that they they were using like, these were research animals. Like and so some got sick last December,   and then the rest   recovered and were very healthy. And then, oh, you know, eleven months later, they go and slaughter them. I always said that's about as logical as going into a, you know, a small town and saying, oh, we we notice or we remember that some people got sick here and died last winter. And and, gee, the rest of you look pretty healthy, but we're gonna kill you off anyway because we don't wanna   there to be any chance of, you know, infecting the rest of the population from other towns around you. So we're gonna just   murder you. We're gonna just kill you off, all these, you know, the healthy survivors who well, let's not call them survivors. There's ordinary   people. But now in this case, the, you know, the ostriches, that's what they did. They they called them and they didn't   they didn't retest them. Not that I believe in that anyway. That's all bogus anyway because I do not believe in   the this virus theory.  



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And there, you know, that that I think that is a concocted thing to be reunited. Monica. Isn't it isn't it all? I think the killing of the ostriches   is not logical from our common sense point of view,   but that's not the currency that they operate on, is it? I think it's part of a psychological didn't have the brain.  

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Well, I think they have got your ad. Yeah. I think they have got listen to the ad.  

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Yeah. Well, yeah. They could do with one that works properly. They do have brains, but they really are mangled.   And I think,   if you look at what their goal is, which is to wipe us out, these are sort of psychological blows. Everybody got understandably,   emotionally concerned about the ostriches. It's completely out of order. That was the purpose for it. That was that was the goal. They wanted you to become what you became because you're normal decent people. They wanted you to be outraged. They wanted you to be seen to be powerless to do anything about it. That's another thing. They've even aren't they also in Canada really pushing this assisted suicide crap all over the place? Oh my goodness. Yep. It is so it is huge.  

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The rate   of this   method of death made   medical assistance in dying. So m I m a I d,   euphemism   for basically murder by government, but it it's   spreading. Like, they are pushing it. They are really, really pushing it. And guess what? Just by coincidence   has gone up. Organ donation.   So these two things are not unrelated.   They encourage   people, you know, this would give meaning to your life and and, you know, donate organs. And the organ donation   industry,   and that's what it is, it's   huge and it's there there's a lot about it that most people have no idea about.   Again, it's come to my understanding. Maybe, you know, correct me if I'm wrong about this. I haven't done a super deep dive into it,   but my understanding of it is that the first drug they give, and this is with MAID as well. So either or or both, you know, if if you're donating your organs or you're gonna do this medical assistance in dying,   the the first drug they give is a paralyzer.  

It paralyzes you. You're not dead yet. So if they are gonna hurt your organs, you're gonna feel it. But you cannot speak, you cannot scream, you cannot move, you cannot twitch, you cannot do anything, but you're aware. And   and then the same thing now with just taking the medical assistance and dying   that   if, you know, even if you were not,   donating your organs,   that is what my has come to my   understanding is that the first drug there again is this paralyzing drug. And then the next one basically drowns the the victim because   their lungs fill with fluid   and they're drowning, but they can't move. They can't scream. They can't, you know,   gasp or protest.  

So   this is a tortuous death.   Now I might be wrong. Correct me if I'm wrong. If if people in the, you know, listening to this say, no. No. No. She's out to lunch. Whatever.   But this is what I've seen in in   articles or or documentaries.   And this is   absolutely horrendous. Like, it's  

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like a ritual murder. That's what I was gonna say.   Yeah. It is. It's a ritual. Yeah.   There's something it's a bit like the bloodletting of the wars of rituals.   That there is this Baal cult   involved at the highest levels of all things. This is all this all these pedo rings, everything is it's literally everything that's good and decent in the world that falls under the laws of nature, the laws of God,   are to be rebelled against.   And that's what they do. They've been doing it so long. There are the most diseased level of cruelty you could possibly imagine.   And I think it's just dressed up. Oh, you'd be like,   I know.  

I think with the organ removal, it's got to happen really quickly.   No way,   would I anybody's having my organs. If they came up to me and said, well, you could save someone's life. Tough. I'm not doing it. You No. No way. Forget it. No way. You're gonna die. No way. No way. I'm gonna die. Tough. Right? I don't mean anything bad towards those people, but if you think I trust you to do that, no, I don't. So it's not gonna happen. I just wanna go off up behind a rock one day, a bit like animals do. They know when they're gonna die, don't they? They they slope off. They go into a wood and they just pass away. I think how cool is that that they know that stuff and we're sort of all sort of intellectual about things. We've lost touch with our instincts but not always but, you know, people just have died all the time. They're gonna keep on doing it and you really want to do it peaceably at home and be buried in the garden. I  

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won't mind. You know, that kind of stuff. Yes. Yeah. And it actually helps to when you grow rhubarb, you can have nice rope nice rhubarb. It has plenty of body in it. That's uncle Alfred. That is that's why that's why that rhubarb tastes so good. Yeah. Why not? Yeah. That that's it. But there I really do believe   that these   people in government are soulless. They haven't got a soul,   and they're demonic.   And it's it is a death cult   because   when you look around look at MPs. There was a a fantastic discussion.   I'm trying to find it on YouTube again. I've lost it. Between two reporters who reported on politics,   and they're both saying how weird MPs are. Everyone they come up against has been very, very weird. There's something odd about them. They're not quite right. I mean, have you found this moniker in in Canada and and and that? I like about the politicians?  

Yeah. They're weird.   Very weird.  

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Well, here's I mean, I don't know about that. That word is not one that I have   thought of in relation to them, but I this is what I'll say about politicians.   There are some well meaning people who   actually do get into   in you know, they get voted in or or whatever the case may be, however they get in. But they there are some very well meaning people. But once they get there,   if they continue to be well meaning, they will be relegated to a completely   powerless position.   Those who have reached any level   of actual decision making and power   Yes. They are all compromised.  

Every single one of them.   By either something that they can be blackmailed with, something in their history,   or   that that well, whatever. They they might be involved in some very bad activities   in the present time,   whether that be pedophilia   or   something. They either have something on their history that they can be   controlled with   or they're presently involved in in these activities.   And though I I still do believe there are some genuinely,   you know,   good people that have gotten elected in because they happen to run-in a party that, you know,   these days when people vote, they're just voting for whoever is leading the party. It's it's really strange.  

Yet we have this representative,   you know, there's always candidates in each riding, but most people don't look at those individual candidates. They just look at the leaders.   So, anyway, some of these people, yeah, I think they're good people, but they they have nothing to   oh, actually, there was a a German politician who said it really well. He said,   those who are elected have nothing to say,   or they have no power to say. And those who   have,   power to say,   in other words, control, are are not elected. So   Yes.  

This is two way thing like that.  

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One of the things that we were looking at last week when I went to this Shakespeare thing, which I've not talked about much, it was the we'll do we might do a thing on Shakespeare after. It was actually about the   infusion of tons of new words into the English language.   And and that the likelihood   is,   that William de Vere, the Earl of Oxford, was the head of a group. He wrote a lot of them.   And that there was a group of them,   both up in in and around Oxford   and also somewhere down in Hampshire as well. There was a lady that was involved probably involved in writing lots of the lady parts. I don't really mind.   There is still amazing literature. I'm not really upset about that. There is nobody really called William Shakespeare. Right? There isn't. It's like a name.  

It's something to do with hostility. What do you do if you see a man and he's shaking a spear at you?   Right?   There's lots of esoteric not understanding about this whole thing. However, one of the parts of the present day, we're looking at psychopaths   and and what psych psychopathy is.   There's a guy a guy called James Fallon, he's a scientist   and he's done a really I haven't even got around to,   reading all of this. There's an article by him on The Guardian, by the way, which of course is a bit worrying.   But, he's he's a very well behaved man but he ticks an awful lot of boxes when it comes to psychopathy.  

And he said, it looks as though I'm a borderline psychopath.   And he's talked and then this is very interesting article because he's not a bad one. It's it's only there's a certain subset. But I was looking at there's a thing called a PCL   test. What's it called here? A PCL   dash r model of psychopathy.   It's got 20 items on it and I want to read them out to you. Right?   So anybody that shows some or all of these things is leaning I reckon to some degree, we've all shown these things. I'm serious. I think it's just that we're in control of it and and it's not in control of us. But   here are these qualities. Glibness,   superficial charm is number one.  

A grandiose   sense of self worth.   Politicians don't have that then, do they?   Need for stimulation, proneness to boredom. Now that worried me because I am prone to as a kid, I was prone to boredom all the time, really. Used to drive me nuts.   Pathological lying, no don't do that. Conning and manipulative.   Lack of remorse or guilt,   that's a real political quality, I think, amongst a broad base of politicians. They don't seem to show any sense in that. Shallow affectation,   callous and a lack of empathy,   parasitic lifestyle, well   politicians right, poor behavioral controls, promiscuous sexual behavior,   oh Bill Clinton,   early behavior problems,   lack of realistic long term goals,   impulsivity,   irresponsibility,   failure to accept responsibility   for one's own actions,   many short term marital relationships,   juvenile delinquency,   revocation of conditional release, I don't quite know what that means, and the last one criminal versatility.  

So there you go, these are apparently qualities or characteristics   exhibited by people   that are moving up unfortunately the psychopathic scale. But many of those things I guess we'd recognize in the behavior of certain public officials, not all of them, you know, Enoch Powell was not a psych a psychopath   and he's definitely one of those who had something to say but certainly never ever given a position of power through which he could do anything   and yet the, you know, the British public knew this. That's why we still   have a very good place in our hearts for him because he was one of the few people that actually spoke the truth about the real condition of the nation.  

So there we go. So I hope you didn't tick any of those boxes everybody and that you're all lovely empathy   people. So you're either a psychopath or you're an empathizer and most of us are empaths, you know, we Yeah. Which is the ability to put yourself in somebody else's shoes and see how bad it is for them and you go, good grief. I've got to do something here if I can. That kind of thing. That's always, you know, we're con Yeah. We're controlled through that. We're controlled through that. And yes, exactly. That's I was gonna  

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say that is a very strong trait that our race   has is Yes. Empathy Mhmm. In general. Right? And so that is what has been used against us.   And and as well as our high trust, we we are we have we are empaths in general and we are high trust.   And so these two qualities   together, they work very well for making very beautiful cohesive societies   unless we   are infiltrated by an enemy within.   You know? And they have turned these traits against us. So the high trust, what does that translate to if if that's being used against us? It means we believe the lies very easily.   And then the empathy,   oh, we just were made to feel guilty very easily   as a result of the lies being told to us. And then we wanna take care of all these,   you know, the bioweapons,   which are the human,   you know, migrants being pushed into our countries. So we our people go and volunteer   here, there, and everywhere to help   them help them out.  

I I can't tell you how many of, you know,   the German people that I knew personally   who were either   friends of I had I had a   bunch of children,   grade 11. So they were young adults, I guess you could say.   They were either related to me or they were friends of relatives who came and stayed with me, with myself and my daughter in Jasper for half a year or a year to go to high school, grade 11. They of many German children do that. Right? And then I would find out that the parents are volunteering at this place, you know, the local   receiving point for all these new, you know, Africans coming that are refugees, they call them refugees. Right? So I'm thinking, wow. In the long run, they're actually   participating in in their own demise.  

But they were misinformed. They're misguided. They think all these poor people,  

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I I agree. It's a really difficult one, isn't it Monica? Maybe it's difficult just for us as a race. I don't know.   But if you think it through logically,   which is tricky for people when their emotions have been hijacked, I include myself,   you can't it's not possible to help everybody who's implied on the earth. Right now, somebody somewhere is undergoing some terrible ordeal at the hands of some idiot or some violent fool.   I'm not there. I couldn't sort it out. Even if I was there, I might not be able to. If I witnessed this all the time, I'd go mad.   You'd go absolutely mad with a desperate sense of uselessness.  

This is why I think   that   the race is cleaving to one another   and staying in their homelands is absolutely vital. It's a natural law   because I can't sort out other people's problems. I just think I can. And we and it's like a curse. I mean, I I personally don't but I'm I'm sort of projecting out here. We we've got people who've got great hearts,   who you really feel have gone out and sort of poured   really   good   spiritual energy after bad. It's it doesn't make a difference because   it's being poured on unfallowing ground. We can't sort out everybody else's problems and yet No. No. No. No. You know, the feminine trait is to do that. They empathize with the plight of the young. I do too. What's happening in Gaza is horrific. It's sick. It's evil. All these things. It's not the first time in history that something foul and disgusting and degenerate has happened and tragically, it probably won't be the last.   But how do we reduce it? I mean, I just think if you can do things that reduce it,   one way to not reduce it is to allow these people to come and live with you.  



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Well, that's exactly the point. But you know, before that, what happened before that in the decades before   the current, you know, invasion of our countries, all our western nations are being invaded.   But the lead up to that was that we actually are   directly   responsible   for, I would say, probably   80 or 90% of that population's   very existence   because we were so busy going over to their countries, their third world countries, and helping them. Mhmm. You know, building sanitation systems, building   this and that. The other thing, you know,   actually preventing them from dying.  

Right? Because and they used all those pull at your heartstrings images of starving   child here, there, and everywhere, you know, and to to pull at our heartstrings, pull up the empathy. So   people, you know, they form more organizations. But I when you really look into it, most of these organizations   have that same   same,   triple triple   bracket   echo,   national or, you know, group to them, that that's them that are behind all these aid organizations,   really. Mhmm. In the end, that becomes,   our   you know, the weapon against us. So now there's so many people there. They they increase their population because of our interventions, our help.   And now, oh, then, of course, the wars. Who are who is creating all these wars?  

Mhmm. And who is causing the there to be refugees in the first place. Oh, now we have to take in the refugees. Like, it the whole thing is   is  

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a it's a plan. Like It is a it is. Yeah. It's been weaponized against us.   Our empathy and   high levels of altruism   Yes. Are to be really exclusively directed towards our own people.  

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Exactly.  

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Scripture says as much. If you allow the alien to live amongst you, they will become the head and you will become the tail. It's all there. It's just never read right.   It's never read straight. It's a pragmatic   guide   to to honorable behavior and to create a a a race of people that become more honorable with each generation. But we got hijacked   and the lust for money has corrupted   our natural aristocracy. I'm not against an aristocracy   but when I use that word everybody associates it with the degenerate state that it's in now, but it's a naturally occurring phenomena. You're gonna get people   in certain fields. There's an aristocracy of farmers.  

Stephen's amongst it. He wouldn't use that word. Right? But he knows way more about that than I'm ever gonna learn in my lifetime given how old I am and everything. I don't know about stuff like that. So you end up with people that have got great contributions to make within their particular field of knowledge and study and when it's combined together,   we can go the moon and back in a split second metaphorically speaking.   But, you can't do it if you've been if you're misdirecting   your energy in the wrong place and, you know, every time I look at this situation you just think this is mad. If we say that there are say   four   I mean, I think there's kind of more than four, but four sort of basic races. You've got you've got the Chinese,   you've got the white man, you've got the African, and you've got maybe the South American or the I don't know. It's it gets a bit confused because there's overlap and there's been a lot of sort of interbreeding and sort of strange, you know, almost hybrid races that are very large now in many way. I mean, the word Arab means to be race mixed from Hebrew. That's what it means. Right? Oh, wow. Yeah. It's very interesting because if you look at the people in Iran, like Queen Noor, and that you'll see all their European ancestry and their bone structure and everything, they're like us but just have a slightly different complexion now.  

Of those four that I've mentioned, you might be able to think of a few more if you wanted to and add to the list. I don't I haven't got a definitive one.   Our camp says there's seven, but but yeah. Go ahead. Yeah. Yeah. No. No. I'd probably go along with that as well. The,   we are the least numerous   by a considerable degree.   Right? We they overwhelm us numerically   in huge numbers. Right? And yet,   all of the energy of the world seems to be devoted to wiping out loosely what we term Christendom.   All the places where the Anglo Saxons and and Northern Western Europeans have gone and brought,   competence and skill particularly   to farming.  

If there's one thing you could say that we're good at, wherever we've gone, we've made food start coming out of the ground and got it organized because we know how important it is. It's just logic. It's called planning.   We're good at planning. We're outstanding at planning in comparison to other people. The Chinese are pretty good at it. They plan for a thousand years, but I'm not a Chinaman. I can't speak for Chinaman. Don't want to. None of my business. Right?   But, you know, white people still think they've been told that everybody else is in a worse pickle than them and they're not.   They're not in a worse pickle and this is why, you know, one of the points that Carlson was making in just this first forty minutes. He said, if you see, say in England   or in these islands,   the people that are coming here are quite buoyant. Why? Because the improvement in their life over where they've come from is considerable.  

They're winning in their own mind. You would feel the same. I would feel the same if I went to a place and suddenly said, oh Paul, you don't have to pay any bills, nears a house and all that kind of stuff. Wow, this is great. All that pressure of having to perform   in this wretched society has been removed. This is great but the the people that would live there would be paying for that and this is where there's this disconnect and ultimately the arrivees   will never be able to acquire any self respect because in some part of their consciousness,   they know that this is being laid on a plate for them and this is not helpful to them. It's dangerous to them. It's not it's a temporary sort of stop gap that appears great and it means that the Liberals can stand up in meetings and tell you you know, all their great credentials about how they're helping this and helping that whilst their own people are withering and the people that are the helpers if we say that we have been and I know there's been bad stuff as well. Right? But overall, we're way way more in the credit book. We haven't done anything bad that any of the other races haven't done either and they've been doing it a lot longer and we stopped slavery. So there.  

I was just gonna say we stopped it. We stopped slavery. And it's still going on in Africa and parts of the middle and in Muslim countries right now as we're speaking. It's going on right now on a massive scale, okay?   And,   yeah our own people have lot many of our own people have lost connection with looking after their own   and and I think   these are actually the biggest enemies that we face is our internal discord. You get that sorted out, we won't have any external enemies or they will be reduced considerably   because I don't feel that they'd be able to get purchase on our heads. There's something wrong with our heads and I think Solzhenitsyn nailed it with regards to what happened to the Russians where he said, the problem is that we forgot God.  

We forgot the actual laws. They forgot they forgot God and you get we get turned over. That's how it works and if you look at us historically,   it's it it tends to work like this. I'm not talking about religions because I they worry the hell out of me, right? They're another mangleman of a good principle. It starts off with a good intention. Watch you look at the history of it and now it's matured. You go, oh, they've all got banks. Oh, they've all got loads of money. Oh, they've all got big buildings.   What's that all about?  

It's about,   you know, this earthly power thing. It's,   I'm not saying we can cure it overnight   but getting most of our kith and our fellow pleasant peasants   to start batting a lot more for their own side would be a huge huge improvement. And, it's it's absolutely vital if we are to thrive and I think we will. I know it's bad right now but we will overcome this.   I don't know how long it's gonna take. You just hope it's not two hundred years of misery. I mean, his history shows that you can have these things that last a huge length of time purely because people have been cut off from the history of who they are. They don't have any recent examples of honorable people to copy and emulate and they become, you know, dispirited and demoralized. And that's kind of that's the that's the war that's being waged on us. The demoralization   one, it's,   is unfortunately proven to be quite effective, I'm afraid.  

But not so effective that it's got people like you. We haven't fallen for it, and that's this so I think in a way, we're a good sign. We're a good symptom, even if we're frustrated. Many of us. Yes. There are. There are many of us. Yeah. And remember remember  

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the,   adage   that there's mass formation theory that states that 30% of people go with what the government believe   40%   go with the flow and 30% are us and all it needs is just 5% of that 40%   to come over to our side   and   we've   we've we've virtually won and that's happening   so we're not that it's not so much it's just that 5% of the 40%   the   the 30% that go with the flow, we forget about them. They're they're dead. You know, they're dead from the neck upwards.   But that 40%,   that's it. So I think that's why the governments are worried, and that's why they're trying to introduce things so quickly. You you mean the okay. So you had said 30% go with the government, what the government says? That's right. Mass formation. It's it's,   30% go with what the government say, so you forget about them. You don't even bother them. Yeah. Yeah. The 40% go with the flow.  

Yeah. But those are the ones you're saying 5% of them. Yeah. 5% of them. If they come over to us Right. That's all it needs, minimum 5%. And there's 30% of us that can see through it,   then the government are seriously worried. Another 40%,   and they get very very worried because remember Mao and he got in with 5%   support of the people.   5%.   And and and and so it's a very small amount. That's in a bad way but we could use it in a good way for us. Look at the Bolsheviks they got in with 7%   that's hardly anybody 7%   when you look at it when you look at the whole population   so I think that some I'm optimistic   I'm really optimistic and I think what's happening is a godsend. It's showing people how evil   this scum is   in in in in government,   and they are, without a shadow of doubt,   soulless.  

I mean, when you when you look at Keir Starmer, you look at him, he hasn't got a soul. He's just Pause that. He's dope. I know. Yes. Yes. I know. I I think for people  

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like us, whatever I might mean by that, and include all the listeners here in Rumble and YouTube and elsewhere as well, you know, enquirers. I think we've also got a challenge.   I'm aware of it, which is   that we're knowledgeable about a lot of the history and run up to this.   And I don't I I'm kind of trying to observe myself not getting too stuck into that too much,   when there really are immediately good things that you can do a much simpler nature to nudge people towards this. You know, like we said before, although we know a great deal about the history and the perversion of the history that's brought us to this point,   you can't go into a sort of somebody in this space who's suddenly getting concerned and overload them with that stuff. It   it requires some sensitivity and simple things, what appear to be simple things are generally always the best. And food being as simple a proposition as you could think of and vital,   really covers an awful lot of ground for us. We don't need to get into some sort of wonderfully complicated   discussion. I mean, I like them. Believe you me. I think they're necessary and there'll always be a space for them and they're gonna continue.  

But there's there's other things that could come along that could really build up a crowd in a much more rapid way. Once that crowds there, you can then look at affecting it more effectively to be quite honest,   because there's something about the power of numbers people feel that, oh, I'm not alone. I've stepped forward. A bit like Stephen was saying, you know, it's a new thing for him. There he is. He's only been selling to businesses his entire life as a farmer for thirty years and now   he's   he's out there going direct to the public and this is of course what Mark is doing with the food hub is to encourage   and connect up with these other communicators. And when I spoke to him the other day, Eric, he was just telling me he's been speaking to loads of people about developing sort of, you know, the food farm radio situation and getting them all on, and they all wanna go for it. I think there's just literally they're gonna be tens, if not hundreds of communicators out there who are good common sense people who are dealing with this every day   and wanna make it work. And that's Yeah. Really, really powerful stuff when you've got Something you know, the mood of the crowd there. Communication.  



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And communication is the most important thing. And also,   fighting ignorance.   That is the other thing because we're all ignorant to what we don't know.   And   I think that this communication   device, like, I think,   going down the old route and having literally a magazine that's printed   is the answer.   Because you can't hack it. You can't it it it it's printed. There it is. And I think the old ways are gonna come back   because they're so straightforward and so simple. They're expensive. Yes. But I think it's they're definitely gonna come back. You know, that's Yeah. I I love the byline of the the,  

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the Barnes Review,   journal of politically   incorrect history,   politically incorrect history. Right? Or bringing bringing   history in accord with the facts.   And, so that's good. But here in Canada is another thing that's waking up a lot of people is   the,   Richmond story. That's just near Vancouver there. And and the native Indians there, the Cowichan tribe, they won a court case that says there's certain portion of Richmond is theirs.   And all of a sudden people   instantly overnight, like, if they were going for a renewal of their mortgage or whatever, nope. They were refused. Like, everybody that's in that little segment of land is uncertain   as to the future of their own property.  

And now the whole city of Kamloops, the same thing.   Apparently, there's been court case going on for years and years and years, but they've never told us about that. Of the natives, they're just gonna say, nope. That's ours.   Any this undrip thing. Right? The United Nations declaration on the rights of indigenous peoples,   it is a weapon against us.   You know, it includes a section there. It's not just if the Indians ever,   owned the land or, you know, they say they never owned it anyway. They're just living on it. But if they resided there or if they   used the land. So it means they could just have picked berries there two hundred years   ago or now they're actually in British Columbia, the province where I live. They're I'm not sure if they passed this yet or if they're they are about to pass it. I think they did pass a law that is giving   intangible,   cultural   heritage that also counts. So maybe   your great great great grandmother,   you know, sang a special song in this location, and so okay. That's theirs now.  

Or,   you you know, there was a spirit there or something. Like, they were just some like, ghost stories, basically.  

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Because that's Well, hang on a moment. Yeah. But we work that in our favor.   For example, I'm English.   So prince, sorry. King Charles would better clear off because he's a Norman.   Because I'm an indigenous Englishman.   So why should we worship some ding dong with fat fingers   who's,   owns the touchy of Cornwall. So all the people should rise up and say, clear off. He's got Washington. He says he owns Cornwall.  

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Yes. Everybody loves him. Oh, Charlie. He's not got you know, you couldn't say a bad word about it. You could say a million bad words about about it. Not one won't be enough, really, I think. You know?  

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But,   some people say there's a a conspiracy theory that he's,   head of the church of,   head of the was it, Church of England? That's Well, he can be. He's a well, I look. I think  

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great. Let him rock on with it. It's a it's a useless institution.   This is the thing. I mean, part of it is prizing yourself away to stand alone under God,   And it's really strong, but it's a big ask for people because we've been raised,   like children.   You know, I I I've often thought this. I thought, how long is it gonna take me to grow up? I re, you know, like, I we talk about the previous generation, they were much more mature at an earlier age because they were dealing with the actual real problems of life directly   and it causes you to just grow up because if you don't, you're dead.  

We hadn't had that, we'd been mollycoddled and I've been glad of it really. I've got an opportune I've had an opportunity, you know, to to discover and read pieces of information that I would never have found out a hundred years ago. I would never. I'd have gone to the library. I probably wouldn't even read that well, you know, and I'd have spoke funny like this and got it all wrong. But now, we we've we've got a different sort of they've kept us away from knowledge and in information because we're easier to control. Well, we seem to have broken that one and that's why this is kind of different. I want to just sort of change tack a bit although it taps back into this peasant's revolt thing. You ever heard of a guy, in that period of time anyway,   you ever heard of somebody called William Marshall?  

No. He's very interesting guy and it's definitely worth looking at William Marshall. He played a key let me read you this. It's to do with Magna Carta. Right? Which I know is it's still important. One of the things that we're talking about last Thursday was what Magna Carta really is in its essence, you know, and, you need the complete thing because certain sections have been removed   regarding people that we're not allowed to talk about. Okay? But they're in there. You get the original one. You'll see it. Right? It's actually written in Magna Carta. That's how powerful it is. Let me read you this bit. William Marshall played a crucial role as a key negotiator for the Magna Carta between King John and the barons.   He was seen as a neutral and trusted figure helping to bring about the charter's ceiling   in June 1215. After John's death, Marshall served as regent for the young Henry the third, and in that role he successfully reissued and secured baronial support   for the Magna Carta in 12/16   and 12/17   ensuring its survival because it didn't go down smoothly. They didn't just all sign and go that's that then we're all gonna obey that. Nah. As usual, they immediately be began to connive. What's amazing about Marshall is he was a knight   his entire life   and he lived to the age of 70   back then. Right? This is a formidable guy and the reason he was able to do it and we're talking about this is that he was known as being the most honorable and chivalric man in England, in the whole of the islands.  

He had this he commanded respect   because he his integrity was perfect for the bulk of his life. He never ever flinched   from a confrontation   when he was dealing with a liar.   Isn't that glorious?   This is the stuff that we would need to bring back into the ears of our young and into mine as well. All of these things, I just like to throw the historical stuff appeals to me a great deal because we've got role figures in the past that we need to be modeling ourselves on. And of course, that's one of the great reasons why they don't put them on TV   because they are these people are inspiring. They tap into the sorts of people that we want to become.  

That intermittently in the past we have been   and they always get attacked, you know. So that's that's another part really of the great the great confrontation that we're involved with right now. It's it's very old as everybody well well knows. It's just in its modern iteration right now. Yeah. William Marshall. Definitely worth looking up.  

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That's interesting.  

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Never heard of him. Yeah. First Earl of Pembroke. So the Welsh have got a big claim on him. Okay. So there we go. Good lad. The Welsh, very important people.   Oh, boy.   Yeah. He was born in November,   and he died in 12/19   at the age of 72. So this means he was negotiating and dealing with these barons in his late sixties, early seventies, sorting it all out. Right? And probably still carrying a sword.   Top lad. What a lad.   Amazing.  

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Well, he sounds he sounds it. Yes. Yeah. Yes.   But, yeah. I mean, the thing is is that,   history is not necessarily what happened, but usually what a minority people want us to believe. Of course. And it's all surrounded round this worship of royalty, which I just do not understand.   Because just a lot of criminals decided to say that they were, like, a godlike   people   because they were ruthless enough to steal off of other people. Their their their ancestors were just common criminals. That's all. Mhmm. And, look at Japan   where you had kamikaze   pilots that are dying for the emperor.  

Yeah. Who was the emperor? You know, I mean,   what a waste.   Horrendous. And I actually think that government is a superstition.   We really do not need them.   When you look at situations where there has to be government, well, that's it. But who says we need a government?   I mean,   Ronald Reagan said if government took several months off holiday, would anybody know there's any difference? No. They didn't. Well, they would because things would improve.   Well, they would improve.  

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They would it is an addiction. It's a fantasy that they're actually helping us. I mean, it's a bit like people go, oh, well, we got this terrible person in charge of the Church of England. We ain't got a Church of England. It's just a joke. It's just a nuthouse.   Who would be bothered with that? It's not of any pragmatic use. Alice Gorgeous writes here, hi, Alice and hi, Aunt Sally. Lovely comments, of course. Aunt Sally's chuffed to bits that she wrote that really rude comment. It was pretty good actually. It was pretty good. Alice Gorgeous says, they're not allowed to remove any part of our constitution.   It is in perpetuity.  

It is. So you know how they're talking recently about getting rid of trial by jury? They can talk about it. We we are gonna form our own courts.   This is a we've got the greatest opportunity just take charge and we're gonna we're gonna have to do it and they're gonna come at us with everything they've got. As long as we're eating well, I don't mind.   And it'll build up slowly but you get a large number of people   thinking like this. It's like a vibrational frequency in the crowd. It's formidable.   It's not easy for them to deal with   and that's our job. This is why they're going hell for leather with all the ID stuff. They know they know that we're much more fully informed than we were even twenty five years ago, which is not that far off. You think everybody thought they knew what they were talking about in the twentieth century, didn't know. Dick. Now we're going, woah. And some of us have had the fortitude to stare at this evil body of information and go,   right, something's got to be done about it. I don't know where to start. But we're beginning to start and this is good.  

It's very good. So,   you know, it's,   the Magna Carta is not some trinket.   It it's not and it becomes not by everybody binding it in and going, no. This is in perpetuity. It fit because it's in the it's under the laws of God. It's how you really do work together, not some sort of whim   by the here today gone tomorrow political   avaricious ambitious   sort of fool that that occupies these places.   Everybody dies. All these people are gonna die. They ought to write and say, you do realize, Kier, that you are gonna die just like me and everybody else that's around them. We're all gonna die, mate. Right? And what are you doing whilst you're alive? Ruining people's lives. Stop it. It's a filthy habit, and you'll pay for it later on. And they will. Yes. They will. Well, they will. Yeah. You're right. Right. I I think what gets me is when you look at the mainstream  

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media,   you know what they got in mind. And what they have in mind   is they want a revolution   because every revolution is bloodthirsty   and leads to a power vacuum where another tyrant gets in that's far worse   than the the people they're they're they're replacing.   Yep. That happens every time and I think that's what they want.  

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Yeah. The crowd becomes when the crowd, I think, gets agitated, and we're all prone to that, you've got us really,   you know, be very selective in who you communicate to at times and things like this. If that thing kicks off, you don't wanna be caught up in it. It's a bit like the COVID thing, you know, when you saw those people with masks on. I just that gave me the willies.   I went,   ah, this is worse than a horror movie.   It's worse. Yes. It's worse because it's a it's a thing that could just go bonkers at any moment and you could feel it. Those of us that are sensitive to it, they're oblivious to it because they're doing the right thing and you're a troublemaker for not wearing a mask and all that. I gotta get out of here because there's no communication you can make to a person that's in that condition that would have any effect whatsoever at that moment in time. You have to let it go, you know, let it go fallow and then hopefully   maybe catch them on a day when they're a little when when they've when they've got a brain.  

When they've got one.  

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There's people still wearing masks now. Seriously? Have have you seen all the concert rent? Yeah? Yeah. Still wearing masks. I saw it the other day. Worst one.   Yeah. Yeah. You're right. I'll tell you the one the funniest one I well, it's funny. It's sick at the same time. An Amazon tribe in the middle of nowhere   Yep. Standing there wearing masks. They're in the Amazon.   I mean, that was during the lockdown.   Even in the Amazon, they had it. One of the cleanest places you wish to come go to with for air and things like that.  

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It's just literally psychosis and and sign of   enslavement. Mhmm. So, you know, the the powers that should not be   must have thought, wow. We sure did succeed, didn't we? Like, look at them all. They're they're all   you they just went for it.   Like, so many.   Vast majority of people were wearing masks, even if even people who   kind of knew that there was something wrong with it, but they went along with it because then they could, you know,   go places or whatever. But my goodness, if everybody had just said no and laughed, laughed at, you know, just laughed at the government for telling them such a ridiculous thing, this this would have ended.  

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Yep. I agree with you. I agree. But that's the trouble. People don't.   And they they they just believe what they're told.  

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They are the 30%. And what got me is the amount of aggressive little sods that started to come out the woodwork. What what they did yeah. Sorry. Sorry. Just I just have to say this. They got the people to police each other. Like, little businesses, they had to become the police themselves. And then Yes, ma'am. The I had the police called on me so many times during that time just because I wasn't wearing a mask.   So they'd call the police. I said, go ahead. Call the police.  

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Sorry, Eric. I just jumped in there. You were just No. That's what I think. Monica, I think it's a really important point that you're talking about. That's the that's kind of this sensitive   trigger thing that you've got to really keep your eyes peeled for. I remember   John, the assassin guy that I know. I'll just try and get him on the show one day, you know.   Amazing guy.  

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He's Probably a killer, wouldn't it? Yeah.  

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It would.   He's he's an amazing guy. He's a he knows all this stuff. I can't tell you what he first said. First minute of my conversation, I can't say it on this broadcast, but people could he said, do you know what the problem is? And I went, no. And I did. And then he said what it was and you would have all agreed. Okay. So let's just leave it at that. And I went, John, we're gonna get on like a house on fire. It was absolutely brilliant. But one of the things he said to me was he said, the main problem is your next door neighbor.   And what he meant was your next door neighbor in a certain condition. Because those are the guys if they're given instructions by authorities that they follow,   they're the ones that will cave your head in with a stove pot. They'll do it in. They will. They'll do it out of fear of losing their own stuff. This is why we need numbers because   people that might not have that internal fortitude that we're looking for yet, I always say yet, that have got to grow into it. Whilst they're in that sort of transition period, they can be very dangerous and cause an awful lot of mess and that's why numbers are gonna help. That's why I'm very attracted to this food thing not only because I eat it, we all do, but because it's got such a wide foot footprint. It overlaps onto everybody and it's a soft sort of invitation, isn't it?  

And there's so much awareness over health that's been built up on the net over the last twenty years, you know, people looking at health in a particular way and foodstuffs. It's got a great there's a lot of mileage in it. It's more than that. It's vital that we get it right. And particularly when you look at the solutions, you know,   the solutions are amazing. Yeah.  

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But also, I think we need,   peaceful minutemen.   Because they had minutemen in in America that could turn up within a minute. So that if the government sends their thugs in to, say, move someone out of their house or do anything like that,   then if they send 20 of their thugs, we'll we'll we'll meet them with 40 of them, but there'll be no violence. It'll be very peaceful, and we just politely tell them to go away. That's it. We don't want them there. Yeah. I've got there's a couple of comments here, Eric, as well, on the spandemic  

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as, Aunt Sally calls it.   Aunt Sally says she says, it upset me during the spandemic that people I knew bought the b s   and turned on those who didn't believe I lost respect for my own kind, to be honest. Yep. I'm completely there. There's this one though. It's a fruity one from Alice Gorgeous. She says, I had a grown man square up to me because I entered a shop maskless.   What a bellend.   He wasn't wearing any trousers then, Alice. Is that what you're   saying?   He wore a mask, but he couldn't put his pants on. Good grief. What kind of a world do we come into? It's outrageous. Yeah.  

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So The best thing, if it happens again,   act deaf.   Make out your deaf. Pardon? Can you come a bit closer, please? I can't hear you. Three   days. And and love it. And that's great. Was in middle. Like, she said, can you move back, please? So I went right across. I said, pardon. I can't hear you. Can you move back? And he was almost trying to kinda get out of his little, you know, little cubby hole where they are where they, you know, take,   checkouts.   He I said, sorry. Can you come a bit closer? I can't hear you. You know? A little bit closer. Yeah. Would you want me to walk back back? Is there someone coming past or something? You know? And it was hysterical, but if you act deaf, they can't be offensive to you. You haven't got a mask? What? Or or really misinterpret.   It's brilliant. What they say? Yep. Love   Yeah. Have you got a mask? I'm sorry. I'm not that way inclined. What what about my ass?  



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You  

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know? But what I did do with the security guard and he had a laugh, he said, have you got a mask? I said, well, have you farted? And  

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he stood stood there for a while. Did you ever see that character on the fast show, the deaf stuntman,   where they're giving him instructions all the time on the set, and he's deaf. And he keeps   he just misunderstands everything. He's like a maniac on motorbikes and setting himself on fire.   And they say something to me, goes, well, so go over there and set fire to myself. I go, no, do this. And he just can't hear anything right. It's very funny and, of course, everything goes, hey, well. I I love that. As a tactic, Eric, it's perfect.   It's so simple. Yeah. Just play deaf.  



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Are you wearing a mask? I do get it all the time. No. I didn't say that. Are you wearing a mask? I don't know. I can't hear you. I just love it. It's great. It'll drive people crazy. That's really good. Yeah. And they deserve it. But it's like with the checkout. It was really funny because it it it was as if there was a poisonous snake inside his checkout bit. He he was sort of getting out. I said, sorry. I I can't hear. Can you speak up a little bit, please? I can't and I was leaning right across.   Of course, they can't call call the police. You're not being offensive. You just said you can't hear him. Of course, you could. That's perfect.  



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Thank you for the great idea.  

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That's okay. And it it was real it was loads of fun. It really was. So after three hours of broadcasting, we can say that the conclusion of this show   is that if things go a little bit pear shaped for you in a one to one communication,   just play that you're completely deaf and you can't hear a word they're saying. Absolutely.   Monica, it's been brilliant having you on. Really enjoyed tonight. It's lovely. Really as it as it always is. Well, thank you so much. Yeah. It's really good. Thank you, Eric, as well. Thank you. That's okay. It's a pleasure. Yep. And and if if you're sad like me and Eric and you don't have a social life and nobody loves you on Christmas day night and you wanna rock up here and share some Canadian cheer with us, we'd be glad to have you, in a month's time at the end of, December. So brilliant. Thanks. Thank you. I I might might just do that. I'll to see who's who's coming to visit or that kind of thing. Okay. Thank you. Yeah. There might be Christmas presents for everybody. I don't know quite how we're gonna deliver them, but there might be. It's a complete fib. Thanks everybody in Rumble and YouTube. We'll be back again same time next week. There'll be quite a few updates. Got lots of things on planning for next year, I think, with this, food thing, which is looking good. We'll see you all in a week's time. Till then, keep well. Don't forget Eric shows on Sunday nights and Monday nights as well, so look out for that too at Fockem Hall. Bye for now, everyone.  

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Bye bye.