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On this week’s show I open with George Orwell (Eric Blair) as our touchstone and dive into mainstream media mendacity, with the BBC’s latest editing scandal as a case in point. We range across how propaganda works, the soft power of “nudges” in drama and entertainment, and the long arc from Bernays to today’s newsrooms. Eric Von Essex joins to swap war stories on the Corporation, Room 101, and the culture industry, and we reflect on how institutions get captured and why honest speech is so rare inside parties, newsrooms, and quangos.

We contrast the media machine with listeners’ lived reality: immigration, the erosion of trust, and the way labels like “racist” are weaponised to shut down debate. There’s a nod to Van Morrison’s protest songs, a brief dip into Enoch Powell’s warnings about political cowardice, and a look at the Mike Graham/Talk fallout as another sign of the times. We finish with a heads‑up for Nathan Lucius, Mark Devlin and Steve James’s December gathering on the esoteric roots of Christmas—Saturnalia, Sirius, mushrooms, Krampus and all—plus some cheer, gallows humour, and a reminder to keep calm, keep talking, and keep laughing at the would‑be censors.

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• 'Question Time (BBC programme)': https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b006t1q9
• 'Doctor Who (BBC programme)': https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b006q2x0
• 'Blue Peter (BBC programme)': https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b006mj3w
• 'Broadcasting House (BBC HQ)': https://www.bbc.co.uk/broadcastinghouse
• 'The Spectator (magazine)': https://www.spectator.co.uk
• 'Rod Liddle – contributor page at The Spectator': https://www.spectator.co.uk/writer/rod-liddle
• 'The Orwell Foundation (George Orwell / Eric Arthur Blair)': https://www.orwellfoundation.com
• 'Nineteen Eighty-Four – Orwell Foundation book page': https://www.orwellfoundation.com/the-orwell-foundation/orwell/books-by-orwell/nineteen-eighty-four/
• 'Edward Bernays – Britannica overview': https://www.britannica.com/biography/Edward-Bernays
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• 'Van Morrison – official site': https://www.vanmorrison.com
• 'Enoch Powell – UK Parliament biography': https://www.parliament.uk/biographies/commons/enoch-powell/1641
• 'TalkTV / Talk (News UK)': https://www.talk.tv
• 'Julia Hartley-Brewer – TalkTV profile': https://www.talk.tv/hosts/5015/julia-hartley-brewer
• 'Bank of England – Andrew Bailey biography': https://www.bankofengland.co.uk/about/people/andrew-bailey/biography
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• 'Saturnalia – Britannica overview': https://www.britannica.com/topic/Saturnalia
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• 'Fly agaric (Amanita muscaria) – Britannica overview': https://www.britannica.com/science/fly-agaric
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[00:00:12] Unknown:

Well, hi everyone and welcome back. It's Thursday again. The weeks are definitely getting shorter, aren't they? They're certainly getting darker.   The evenings are getting darker. Anyway, Paul English Live. We're here with you for next two hours on WBN, a little bit longer elsewhere.   This is episode 113.   An inauspicious number. We hope not.   Let's get the show started.   It's been a good week for the mainstream media, particularly if you work at the BBC.   I don't, by the way, although I have applied for a job.   Well, hi, everyone, and welcome back. Yes. It's November 0 is it the thirteenth? It is. This is episode a 113   on November 13. That should help me remember things. I don't know quite why I need to remember all these things. Hope you've had a good week anyway.  

As I said, there it's nice and gloomy and doomy outside here.   Lots of rain   but it's been a beautiful day, been a beautiful day. Very warm this morning. Still got the shorts on, you'll be very keen to know that, no doubt.   And,   I've been out for a little toddle, talk to people as I do, as is my want.   Lots of people very very pessimistic about the future weather forecast, which is always really rather tedious to listen to them. One lady came up to me and said, oh, it's all going to turn and become terrible, she said. And And I said, have you been watching that television again? You need to stop doing that. Just stop watching the television.   They don't know what's going on, certainly not the BBC.  

Anyway, for those of you who are not with us on Rumble and YouTube and a big shout out to everybody that's there already. Hi, chatters. And, here we are on WBN. We're here every Thursday.   But for those of you that can't see the video stream or today's image or you haven't found it or whatever, or you can see it at Paul English live dot com.   We've got a picture of mister Blair   smoking a cigarette.   Not No. Not Tony Blair.   Good grief.   Good grief. We would never do anything quite so drastic as that. No. Not Tony Blair. And, it's Eric Blair   who,   everybody else would probably know more thoroughly as,   George Orwell,   mister George Orwell. And it's kind of just the starting theme for today's show because we're gonna be looking at   mainstream   media mendacity.  

I do like a little bit of alliteration as you can tell.   So if you don't know what mendacity is, you can go look it up but it basically means to be a conniving lying git.  

[00:03:41] Unknown:

It's a bit strong, I suppose, what I put but, certainly it's the heritage unfortunately  

[00:03:46] Unknown:

or fortunately for all of us of the BBC which has,   come to, come to great prominence this week because,   those of you that have,   been aware of it, I think mister Donald Trump who's the president of The United States currently,   last time I looked which was sometime this morning, he's a bit cross with the BBC.   And if you don't know what this is all about because it's a really good recent example of all the mess here in the world,   is that,   the   January 6 thing that took place a couple of years ago,  

[00:04:20] Unknown:

the BBC  

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kindly decided to edit the clip,   of mister Trump speaking in such a way,   and if you haven't seen it, you need to look it up. Well, you don't need to but you might want to. You'll just have to take my word for it right now if you've not seen it. But they edited the clip in such a way,   that it appeared that mister Trump was actually inciting everybody to violence.   The BBC did this   and apparently some people in certain quarters are shocked. Well,   most of the Britons that pay attention aren't. I'm one of them.   And another one who probably isn't too shocked about the whole thing would be, would be Eric Von Essex who's obviously just rocked up. Eric, good evening. Welcome to the show. How are you?  



[00:05:03] Unknown:

Good evening. I'm very well. Thank you. I've got a note from my parents. Sorry about it, mate. And,   yes.  

[00:05:11] Unknown:

Yes.  

[00:05:14] Unknown:

Really? What? The the BPC   lying to us, never.   They they they're there for the truth, aren't they? I mean, we know they they wouldn't dare light us. You've only got watched the beautiful program called Question Time,   where a sick bag isn't big enough. I think it is a dustbin. It's so contrived. It's beyond It's  

[00:05:34] Unknown:

fuck.  

[00:05:37] Unknown:

Know what's acting as before seals, isn't it? You know?   A politician says something   that everybody's going, Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, and all sort of clapping, you know?   Now they're giving everybody the clap. Sorry. I mean, then but   I find it childish. The entire BBC now is run by   people that should be in a mental institution or in a planet cell. That's my particular Well, I think maybe the ones that have retired that have just,  

[00:06:03] Unknown:

or left, maybe   applying for jobs in there. Although, I I read I can't remember the name. Davy, is it, or something that had cheese?   He's bound to be signed up soon or whatever. But as I've mentioned here before, the BBC actually stands for the Bolshevik Brainwashing Corporation.   And don't worry, we're not going to exhaust you all night by talking about the BBC because really we've explained their entire raison d'etre already, which is to,   basically actually, I've got a quote from someone from a few years ago. I'll I'll bring it into the show a little bit later on. When I say a few years ago, I mean the eighteen hundreds, with regards to the mendacity in newspapers and the and the mainstream press at the time. But,   the BBC have got a long record of this, which of course they don't publish or they don't broadcast on their television stations, which is a bit of a surprise. I thought they wanted to keep us well informed and abreast of things. But it's a wretched organisation.  

It really is for all sorts of reasons. And I I, I was watching an interview with a guy a guy called,   Rod Little, I think it is. Oh, I've I've I've mulled his name. He writes for The Spectator. The Spectator may be a rag, by the way. This doesn't mean to say I'm actually condoning it or whatever.   But, I've seen him, around and about and I I saw an interview in the other day. I was gonna sort of play clips from it. It's a bit a bit long winded,   in a way, really, for sort of a a clip during the show.   But he was talking to the interviewer   about the caliber of the staff there at the BBC.  

And I think, Eric, it's probably fair to say that there isn't any caliber of staff left in it.   And   the whole place has been just tunneled out with,   well, snowflakes, to be quite honest. I mean,   I I was reading a lot of the comments underneath the video. Many of them said, well, yeah. The news is terrible but I don't watch it for the news. But the dramas are really good.   And I thought, well, that's not true either, to be quite honest. The whole place is so utterly mangled   and it's basically being used to sort of culturally hijack the brains of the Britons that that unfortunately choose to watch it from time to time. I mean, have you been watching any BBC dramas recently That's right. And thoroughly entertained? I haven't.  

[00:08:17] Unknown:

Well, I can't because I haven't got a television   anymore. But the thing is, I haven't had one for fifteen years, and I don't admit.   But what I what gets me with the, when I briefly look at the BBC, if I'm, say, standing in the bank and they've got it blasting out at you on the screen, or I go to a friend's house where they go it on, is that,   they use a lot of nudge.   Yeah.   These you know, it's nudge.   Doctor Who, they've got,   leprechauns. Oh, sorry. Lesbians.   And things like that. And they know that children   watch,   Doctor Who. They're very keen on it. And they,   there was,   a couple of alien lesbians   when I was went into my neighbor's house to fix something.  

And, she headed on. I was thinking, what on earth is this rubbish all about? And it's all that kind of nudge to make things look as if they're normal   when they're not.  

[00:09:11] Unknown:

And I'm just having a bit of a problem with your sound at the moment, Eric. Hang on. I don't know why. It's sort of fading in and out. Could you could you speak again or something? I don't know what's going on here. Right. How's how's that? I'll have a look at my sound and try and No. We seem to be okay now. It's just going in and out a little bit. I think it's just slightly intimate. It's not too bad now. No. We just kind of lost you a little bit but Mhmm. Yeah. No. The thing about the, But I know.  

[00:09:36] Unknown:

Yeah. Sorry.   Sorry. You're gonna say, sorry Paul. No. After you. After you, mate. Well, I was just gonna say that the thing about their dramas  

[00:09:44] Unknown:

and it is a bit of a drama watching one if I'm present because I get quite vocal about it. I can't   Oh, dear. You can just see basically over and over and over again with everything that they do   that they've got this cultural agenda which they're seeking to get across. And it's basically just an extension of the whole globalist thing and I'm kind of glad that this event has happened,   with regards to their   it's absolutely   so overt. They're tampering   with Trump's speech.   I mean, it's just inordinately,   it's criminal.   And I I read something the other Which is? I sound awfully outraged   shouldn't go on. But this sort of thing's going on all the time with this organization because it's not it's not very British at all, to be quite honest. It should be the globalist Bolshevik, you know, brainwashing corporation, the GBC really.  

And,   yeah. Sorry.  

[00:10:41] Unknown:

Well, what well,   Orwell   hated the BBC,   and Room 101 was actually a conference room where he had to get is often grilled in the tedious   meetings.   And that's where the,   show, Room 101 came from, because,   it was, from 1984.   Because he set that as his torture chamber in 1984.   So, you know, and, I mean and the weird thing   with, I mean, that   photo photo you got actually, the the the caption for this show is,   George Orwell's real name was Eric Arthur Blair.   Isn't that weird?  

[00:11:21] Unknown:

Yes. I did say that we had Who do we have as prime had mister Blair on. Prime Minister? Yeah. The Prime Minister. Yes.  

[00:11:28] Unknown:

Minster. Sorry. Minister.   Yes.   Or monster. But, you know, but that's the weird   thing. Because I really do believe people like Blair,   and Starmer and that,   they're not normal.   I don't know whether they're demonically possessed, or what it is, but they are not normal. And this is one thing I think we look, should look into because about thirty years ago, it went to go really weird because   the days when Bill Cotton Junior   was Director General, things seemed to be okay. And it seemed to go a bit weird at the, sort of, shall we say, eighties to nineties.   And it went   weirder as we went into the 02/09   nineteen nineties.  



[00:12:11] Unknown:

Yeah. And I think ever since ever since Tony Blair became the prime minister, it started to go wonky. I,   obviously, Doctor Who was a a kid's   favorite back in the sixties and seventies. I was one of them. I quite liked his dialects and cybermen and all that. And I quite liked Patrick Trautty. And and and dialect?   Yeah.  

[00:12:33] Unknown:

Are you? That's right. And,   did you did you build the BBs, sorry, the, Blue Petered Dalek when they did it on the television?  

[00:12:42] Unknown:

I don't think I did. I I was suffering from severe Dalek envy with my friend,   Kevin,   who had an entire Dalek   outfit.   I can't describe it. It was awesome.   It was awesome when you're six and seven. Ill. Yeah. So basically, you   you it was quite hefty and everything. It was almost like well, not life size. I suppose kiddie size. Right? It'd be about two thirds the size of the real thing. And you basically put it over you and it hung on your shoulders like with these sort of straps.   And you had, you had a big pushy thing and you had a, an extermination thing, you know, whatever it is called.   I don't know. And it was blue The plunger? The plunger?  

I had the plunger. I had the sink plunger. That was really good, you know. I've got to unblock the sink. Yeah. So I never really got past that. I was always I couldn't believe that he had this and that I didn't have one. And then, I didn't really find the Daleks particularly charming. I did find the Cybermen particularly menacing. I remember when I was a kid, I didn't like that too much. But I mean Yes. Our childhood pathetic memories aside,   it had a sort of coherent stupidity to it back then and I used to love the idea really later on when I was a teenager. You see all the sets wobbling. They're all made out of cardboard and  

[00:13:53] Unknown:

stuff. And it was sort of ridiculous. Oh, it cheap shit, wasn't it? It was.   Well, whoever thought put the sink plunger on on a on a Dalek. And how do they climb stairs? I know. I prefer Spike Milligan's Dalek. Do you remember that one? I do. Where, was it a woman's barrette or a Dalek? Good evening,   darling. How did you come today at work? My boss had a go at me. I exterminated   him. Yeah.  

[00:14:17] Unknown:

There was quite a bit of that, wasn't there? I mean, when when Star Trek rocked up, of course, it made Doctor Who I mean, from a sort of, you know, visual,   production value point of view, because they had phases in Star Trek. That was the only bit that I liked about it. The rest of it just drove me bonkers, actually. I couldn't stand it.   And, you know, spot tears. But anyway, I'm kind of just off the point of it. The thing I was gonna come to was that when they rebooted it, the early the early ones, which I think they rebooted it in the nineties, didn't they? Or something like that. They weren't too bad. That's right. They weren't actually that bad. And then they started to go   wonky. They just started to get wonkier and wonkier.  

And of course, it seems as though the actors that play it are given an instruction set that they've got to act as if,   as if they're on speed or something. They're all kind of stupidly manic. Most of them would get over excited about things and have to run around. I suppose they just put energy into the show. I don't really know what it was. But I found it all really rather rather tiresome and exhaustive and I've often thought that the plots   were so ludicrously crap all the time. I'm serious. They're just lame.   Really really bad stuff. I could never really sort of take it seriously. It was just sort of something that was on. But I think,  

[00:15:32] Unknown:

I don't know who the current one is. Don't they have an African playing Doctor Who or something now? And prior to that, they had a woman. Oh, I don't I don't care. I mean, I haven't bothered. Oh, bloody enough. Yeah. I bet she was I bet she was a lesbian, though. They've always gotta be a lesbian. They've always gotta bring one of those, but that's in the world. Biostatistical. So it's gotta be a multicultural   lesbian,   one legged lesbian on I don't know. Yeah. It's it's always the same old crap in it that they they would reel out. But these people   are   who get into this senior management, they are mentally ill. They shouldn't be there.  

And   there is   I I really do believe that   the problem we have is not recognizing psychopaths in senior positions.   Because if you had any experience of psychopaths,   they think completely different to humans.   Not all of them. Not all, but the predatory ones.   And as I've often said, until we find a way of separating the predatory psychopaths from the rest of humanity, we'll always have this nonsense, and we'll always have wars.   Because they are their brain is completely wired differently to ours. Mhmm. We will never understand them. They understand us, alright, and they know how to pull the strings. They know how to hypnotize susceptible people. That is the big problem.   That's where they got the advantage where they can be in the minority.  



[00:16:53] Unknown:

They've definitely got them there. I think I think another part of it is that there's like,   you know, like,   all the woke people sort of congregate together a bit like scum around the plug hole and stuff like this.   There's a lot of that going on. There's a lot of it's literally a totally leftist and wokeist organisation.   It's sort of Yeah. It didn't used to be. I think what they were saying was that this sort of this hellish version of it, the latest iteration began about 2015.   I don't know. There must have been some change in senior staff there. Not that I'm sort of holding my breath and waiting for it to get good again, whatever I might mean by that. I suppose it was just that the brainwashing was at least a little bit more civilized and more palatable in the past.   Today it's   Possibly, it's a good thing that it's so impalatable you can't watch it which is great. But   but it's full of people that have basically been,   you've mentioned this before, it seems to me lots of them have never really had it difficult in life and they've swum through university or whatever.  

The BBC is flooded with money because it pilfers it from everybody's pockets at the rate of what is it £15 a month for a TV license, something like that, I think, these  

[00:18:02] Unknown:

days. There's even been I don't know because I I I don't have a telly.  

[00:18:06] Unknown:

Yeah. Yeah. Well, even if you did, you shouldn't have a TV licence. So it's rich coming from me. I've I'm sort of ambivalent about what to do. I've said before that,   if we're gonna really defund the BBC, it needs to be done en masse in a huge blow one Monday morning. That'd be interesting.   You know, I mean, like, half a million people just suddenly stop paying it, are currently paying it. That would just   bring it, you know, stop its gears grinding, I would have thought.   But everything that they've done is to be in line with this sort of globalist culture that they're trying to create.   And trying is the opposite operate operative word because that's all they're gonna keep on doing is trying to do that and failing miserably,   because there's no root to it. It's I think it's why so much is so flimsy. I think this guy Rod Liddell was saying that they seems to have an obsession with transvestites   and drag queens. I not that I would know. I don't watch it at all anymore.  

I know that there have been lots of dancing things which the ladies love on a Saturday night. I'm not against that. If it's charming or whatever, you know, it's not my cup of tea but good grief is you've got to fill a shed, you'll look with something.   But overall it's it's very lame. I mean the the the level of comedy that's on it as far as I can discern Well there isn't one anymore. There there's nothing sort of in there that's useful to anybody.   So I I think this news thing coming   out, is really good, actually. I think it needs to be absolutely kicked in the nudges of this organisation. Of course, I'm not alone. This is not a sort of,   a brilliant position that I'm taking. I'm sure many many listeners here share if you're in the in Britain, you'll probably share a similar view, many more than I've ever done before. And and if if Trump does sue it, I think it was something to the tune of a billion dollars.  

Well, go on then. Smash it up. I don't care. It doesn't represent us anyway. I mean, oh, we're going to lose the BBC. What do you mean? We're happy to do it. It doesn't work for us anyway. So good. The government  

[00:19:56] Unknown:

yeah. But the government   but the government will bail it out because,   BBC   is an integral part. It is a   propaganda machine, yes, but also it's part an integral part of the military, and people don't realize that.   That's the thing. And it started going to its up and Lord Burt, that was John Burt. I remember him. And he was director general from 1999 to 2000. And Greg Dyke.   Yes. What I say, Dyke.   Those two screwed it   unbelievably.   They just screwed it up. And it as I say, from 1992   onwards when law Burt or yeah. He's a law now. Mhmm.   John Burt became director general. It went straight down the toilet   from there on.  

Yeah. So I think that but you see, the thing is, the BBC,   it works hand in glove with the secret services.   So it will carry on. Yes. And they want their people to pay to be brainwashed. Mhmm. That's exactly what they're doing. They're being they're paying be brainwashed all the time.   And they've tried to they've tried to turn it down by calling it aunt auntie BBC and things like that. I mean, look at that,   rubbish they have there. It's coming up soon, is it? Pudsey bear thing. What is it? Children in need. Oh,  

[00:21:16] Unknown:

yeah. What's that? Is that Oh, yeah. What is that red nose? It's gone. There's something repellent about that. There has been   I I found all these sorts of big sort of fundraising things that they do. And you've got all these celebs rock up. They're all sort of slapping each other on the back and you just go, there's something stomach churningly disgusting about this. They're also self congratulatory   about stuff and no one ever gives you a report about how much money finally ends up helping people out. The the thing about these large scale organised charities, I guess we're going slightly away from the point but it's still relevant,   is that   we have no way of knowing. I mean, the way that charity should actually work should be on a very local basis. And if you see someone in trouble and you can help them, help them. If you can,   it's a good thing to do. Yeah. It really is. I mean, I'm always giving fivers to a few guys that are sleeping in the doorways around here. Cost me about 35 I'm assuming that I'll do it. I won't give them a tenner because I know I just think it's too much. But if I've got a fiver, maybe inflation means next year it will be a tenner that I'll give them. But if I've got it and I'm feeling sort of okay and I'm not under any I'll I'll give it to them. I'm not gonna imperil everything, you know. My budgets are tight, Eric. My budgets are tight,   but I don't need extra money to do stuff and if they want to go off and get a beer, they're welcome to it. I don't really mind but, you know, so   and some of them, they're really decent people you just say and I don't know their backstory and I guess I don't really want to know because it'll break me up. But they've obviously so they're not all drug addicts and   I know the ones that are because down here, it being a seaside town, there's,   there are there's a couple of the sort of seating areas that   and there's two   particularly that I think on a Saturday afternoon, it's sort of like the the town drunks are all there. They're like in a big gang, you know. There's about seven or eight of them.  

And,   they seem to have at least they've got companionship as they drink themselves to death.   I you know, there's no point me talking to them that is too far gone with all that. I'm talking about these other people that I just see from time to time. Isn't that how it's supposed to really work?   It seems to me anyway. So Pudsey Bear could get stretched. Well, that's right. I don't really care.  

[00:23:22] Unknown:

Yeah. But I don't really believe in charity as such because we should   yeah. We should live in a society that does not have people sleeping rough. Or if they are sleeping rough, they're doing it out of their own volition. They've got a choice to do it.   And   quite honestly,   you and I grew up in a time when there was no housing shortage.   And suddenly,   in the late seventies, early eighties, there started to become a   housing   shortage.   Surprise, surprise. And then when Blair came in,   they they when the gates were opened even further to allow any   de comte de gallant of this country, there became a massive housing shortage.  

But in the sixties and seventies, there was not a housing shortage.   And   this is the thing with, with charity.   To me,   these big charities   are there similar to a military charity, which I won't name,   that was set up in 1921.   Again,   that was a propaganda agency to take the heat off government, and that's all it does. So that   government can screw us even more,   to pay the usury scammers and get away with it whilst people are living rough and poor, which   to me is is is disgusting. And I'm similar. I will not give a penny to charity unless I go into a charity shop, and then I'll pump my pay for something if I want. But,   sorry. I always pay for almost everything. I don't I don't what I mean by that nick it. Is that that's okay. I don't nick it. I don't nick it. Yeah. That's what I've been but when I see a a chat, poor soul, that's down out I mean, I actually   gave to a chat last year. It's a freezing cold day, and he's just sitting there.  

And   I gave him some money. And he's in a very posh thank you so much, sir. It's very kind of you.   Look. And this chap was extraordinary, I think.   I think he's he's just fallen on hard times. And it what gives me is the amount of young people that   are out of, haven't got a home. And they're English.   Mhmm. And they're often mainly   as well.   That, to me, is horrendous.   It shouldn't be.   What the hell's going on?   But,   you know, there's always been tramps,   but Yep. They, years ago, were tramps because they wanted to be tramps.   Not now,  

[00:25:40] Unknown:

you know. And, that's really what angers me. Can I just twiddle your technical trousers one more time?   So,   you were a bit muffled, and we've got you clear, but your volume's dropped off. Is there any way you can raise your volume at your end?  

[00:25:56] Unknown:

Yeah. Sure. I'll just raise the volume. I'll do it again. Yeah. It's dropped down again. Here we are. How's that? Is that is that up again? Yeah. Is that alright? Cool. Yeah. Yeah. Leave it at that. I'm just gonna throttle you down a bit here at this end. You've got to stop.  

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That's good. That's good. It's actually throttled down on its own because I actually put the volume down. With it at this end as the actress said to the bishop.  

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I'm I'm just Oh, really? We would hate to get into that. Yes. And I like playing with it.  

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Yeah.   Right. How's that? Is that better? Yeah. That's way better. Sorry about that, everyone. But we no. We could hear you. I could hear you okay. But there was definitely something crazy going on. So we've got a cleaner signal. So you Well, I'm gonna keep an eye on that.  

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Yeah. I'll keep the window open with the volume,   control, and I'll I'll,   I'll,   what, keep an eye on it all the time because there's something really weird going on, you know.  

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Anyway, as That's telling what you just said as well. I was I just wanted to dovetail what you just said there about,   the military and the sort of security agencies, you know, using the BBC as a conduit for propaganda all the time.   But we had a we had a fun little outing, didn't we, on Tuesday morning this week when we got together to to cover Remembrance Day.   And,   that was my little segue because we're going into the military thing there as well. But I, I really enjoyed my so if you haven't caught it, it's up on my channel. It might be up on Eric's channel. I don't really know. But we had a good little time of it there. I I,   I really enjoyed it a lot. Yeah. Probably more than I should have done because,   I'd had a nice cup of tea for breakfast. I was I felt very relaxed   because it gets late at night here. The gloom sets in, and I've had too much whiskey before the show. That's right. Yeah. I haven't actually. I don't drink whiskey at all. I don't drink. But, you know, it it was it was great to to go over that kind of stuff. And in a way, it does tap into this because,   you know, if we look at the whole history of propaganda I know we we mention it. We come around to this topic probably maybe in every show,   even for only a few minutes.  

But the beginning of it, really, at the be you know, with regards to the mechanical version of propaganda in the early part of the twentieth century, certainly with World War one,   certainly with Edward Bernays,   and certainly with him, you know, that quote we mentioned a few weeks ago that this marshalling   of the public opinion is the great hidden government that's over people. And in our case, the BBC   is one of the great conduits of this guff.   So that's our that's our little thread because certainly, you know, they can't get their wars organized properly without without the BBC,   without its approval, you see. That's right.  



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And when I worked there, I mean, so I worked there.   I was there on a   space. It wasn't permanent.   And how I got in there, the agent that got me in there was a Freemason.   And it was very, very masonic. And you you would go up to and all the team people are Freemasons.   And you come up to the photocopy machine. There's all masonic literature all around here. I think, what the hell is this? And the secretaries used to,   do the masonic work for well, I don't mean to be funny and interesting that, but, you know, they used to type up all kinds of weird and audible   things. But they're Masonic meetings, and there were people in senior positions   who were sons of bigwigs,   who didn't have a bloody clue what they were doing. And that was the real fact of the matter. And the other thing is that,   when I worked there, and I didn't sign the official eight secrets act, so I can probably say this,   I did some work on,   a transmitter station, and that was, you know, doing all the sort of architecture for it. But then also worked on,   a project that I never went there that was on an island   somewhere.  

And,   it was a listening post   for the RAF.   So they work hand in glove   with the military, and that's all I can read. I I I I wanna live a few more years on this Earth, so that's all I'll say. Even though I didn't sign the the, Official   Secrets Act. And it's one of these projects where if you wanted to know,   given our you know, wanted to know a certain part of the building, you had to put write it down what the information you wanted, and it's,   you're only given the information that you need to know. It's a need to know basis. And they come back with a question, why do you need to know this? And I'll say, well, because of dicks, y, zed. And it would take you about a bleeding week to find out why a beam is going across a certain area and things like that.   And,   where this   memo went to is, your guess, as good as mine. But it was something to do with the RAF that I was dealing with. And, again, as I say, I never signed these feat secret Official Secrets Act. I was just an ordinary contract bloke doing doing a bit of architecture there in a place called Henrywood House, which is opposite,   Broadcasting   House,   where there's that famous   sculpture of,   a pedophile,  

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which I use to actually pass every day, and I didn't even notice it. Gill. Yes. That's right. Gill. The the guy that created Gill Sans, an extremely elegant font, or at least I used to say that in the eighties before I knew his backstory.   But he was yeah. It seems to me as though it's historically been a haven for pervert.   The BBC. I mean,   so Oh, crumbs. Eric Gill goes back a long way, doesn't he? Isn't that nineteen twenties or something?   And things like this?  

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I think so. But when I worked there, it's loads of it's like a family of people.   That have been there since they left school and never had any other job in their life.   And as I say, they do work hand in glove with the military. I'm pretty sure, you know, that that that I mean, for example, there's and I can say this for a fact, that,   and I didn't find this out when I worked there, but I found this out since on the Internet.   There's a broadcasting place in   Wales.   And during the Cold War,   if all else failed, this place would broadcast.   So if there's a civil war in this country,   they would still broadcast the BBC from a secret location.  

Right.   So there we go.  

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Well, I'm sure they've got a lot of plans. So they're all sort of hand in glove with the military. Yes.   Yeah. They must   be. They must be. I think,   something just ran through my head and it ran out the other ear. Bugger. Can't remember what it was.   Oh, yeah. It was really just to do with this else should have come back? No. No. No. I've got it. It was really just to do with this whole,   the the calibre of the people   or the the dark underbelly of the BBC,   which Yes. You know, as time goes by and more researchers look at it, you realize that there's just this long history   of entertainers,   let's call them that,   being   corrupted,   being drawn into something dark,   and it's not necessarily in recent times. And,   you know,   the big one, of course, that still rings around to this day is Jimmy Saville   and rightly so.  

Very   very strange man in all sorts of ways. Very very strange. He had a very strange relationship with his mother because he was,   apparently a very sickly child but managed to survive.   So she sort of conferred almost like a saintly status upon him as if he was a miracle. So he grew up hearing all this kind of stuff and he is very I mean it's just a very strange life. He's a very strange man. I was listening to an investigative reporter earlier about it today. I wasn't even looking for this stuff but I thought obviously it dovetails into what we're talking about. I asked him twice I've said dovetails. I'm gonna have to stop doing that. People think I'm a carpenter.   He,   you may know he was a miner. He used to go work down the pit. Right?  

And That's right. That he was a bevin boy, wasn't he? Yeah. But he would dress strangely going down the pit. Yeah. Apparently, he would dress in an odd way   and and marked himself out as very distinct   distinctively   different. Then he fell in with some mobsters in Manchester.   Of course, when I was a kid, the idea of mobsters in England was just strange. I thought that only took place in America. This is when I was, you know, eight or something. But this is England. We don't do that sort of thing, do we? Apparently, we do. And, even then, he was known to   beat people up. I know he talked about this at clubs and stuff. That's right. So, he had a temper on him about stuff, and he was pretty fit, I suppose, and being a minor.  

And there is something kind of the more you look at him, if you not that you would want to anymore now, I guess it's almost impossible to look at clips of him without having your skin crawl because of what a creep he is. But the what he was saying was that this he had connections with other   there's a lot of evidence suggest he had connections with lots of other serial killers.   There's evidence to suggest that he knew the Moors murderers, Myra Hindley and that other wretched piece of genetic mistake. I can't can't remember his name.   That he bumped into these people in and around Manchester because Oh, and and and,  

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Yorkshire Ripper?  

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Well, yeah. Yorkshire Ripper as well. Well, the Yes. Here's a really strange thing. I mean, I did sort of know this, but I just got the details flashed back into my head listening to this thing this morning,   which was that,   do you remember I don't know if you remember,   a body, one of Sutcliffe's victims, was found in Savile's Garden. Did you know that?   Are you there, Eric? I didn't know that. I really didn't know that. Yeah. I did. Is I still here? Are you still there? Well, I know that a body was found in a garden, but I think at the time, they never really pushed this side of it. Certainly got into this investigative report. By the way, I can't back this up. This is what I heard earlier today. So there may be listeners out here, certainly on Rumble and YouTube, who know more about this in details. I'm I'm scanning the chat. But he said it's almost like they've got some kind of related   weird club. A strange club between them. And it was almost like an offering or a trophy for Saville or something weird.  

And they're definitely unhinged. There is a sort of an unhinged   group of people. They're probably, unfortunately, still these sorts of people floating around, I'm afraid. But yeah.  

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But they they reckon that he was the mister Fix It, because that's a show at Jim Will Fix It. Excuse my language. It's a bit of a piss take. Because you notice he would say words three times,   and that's to do with magic or stuff. Because I did hear that he was the seventh sun,   which is something weird. Seventh sun of the seventh sun.   I haven't looked into it. I don't know how true it is. I know that,   John Purway was. He was a but I wouldn't link him to Jimmy Savile because there's nothing nasty, you know. He's he seemed to have a very good life. But with Jimmy Savile, you'd say now then, now then, now then. What's that three times?   And Yes. Those strange noises he made, he he was   very, very, very odd. But, what got me was he was good friends,   with that fat liberal bloke. What was his name now? Cyril Smith. Another one. Oh, who's, Cyril Smith. Yes. Famous for hang gliding, wasn't he? No. Cyril Smith, the MP for Leeds or somewhere, I think it was. And he was a notorious pedophile as well. MP for Rochdale. Yeah. Absolutely. I mean, a repellent. Sorry. I got that wrong location. They've got some kind of  

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you know, my thing is, you know, you can look at certain guys, and I think you can tell really really quickly that there are people that if you shook their hand,   their hands would be sweaty   and cold. Do you know what I'm talking about?  

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I know exactly what you're talking about. And and that that is actually   my father had a thing about handshakes.   Mhmm. And if someone gave him a limp handshake, he'd never trust the person. I'm the same. And my brother will bet a limp handshake. And and, I mean, my dad would look you straight in the eye and shake your hand really hard. And he he he drummed that into me   from the childhood. He said, you always and people will go   after a shaking their hand, you know, because I was shaking their hand so hard. But,   my brother-in-law, for example, it was like a wet clipper going in in in I've seen my dad's face the first time my future brother well,   my my   my sister's future husband shook their hands on my dad, and it was so lit   it was unbelievable.  

And,   there's a lot like that. And he said, you can tell a man by the handshake.  

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And he was right. I think you can. Percent. Right. I guess you're I guess you were brought up in a similar way. Well, I think so. I mean, I know some pea yeah. I was to a degree. Yeah. You know people that really shake your hand. I don't trust that either.   It's like, look. Just   there's a level. No. Some people are like showing up. I'm gonna crush your hand. Stop that. Right? Just pack that in as well. It's firm. And look here in the face.  

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I'm solid, but some people go over the top with it. Mhmm. And then they go over the top,   that means there's something  

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that that that that they're acting it. It's interesting. You read someone so fast just from a handshake. Top. Yeah. Yeah. We do. We've got a bit of lag between us, Eric, just to let you know, but don't worry. It is,   Yeah. We've got overlap taking place here on your Internet connection. I think if you've got Any other weird going on? Yeah. If you if you've got anything else open on your machine, shut everything else down because it's I haven't.   Alright. Okay. I I didn't think you did, but I just thought I'd say it like a a baby. Some anyway, some interesting comments coming. Ones that just weren't quick. There's no no apps?   No. That's okay. That's okay. You don't need to it's not a roll call. I just thought I'd mention it.  

Billy Silver writes, just going back a few minutes when we're talking about charities,   he says a lot of chatter about Bono and Bob Geldof and lost funds,   wouldn't surprise me at all. Oh, bloody hell.   Of course. Yeah.   Those people.   And, also writes that it has been said that Jimmy Savile's mother   made a satanic bargain that baby Savile survived.   You know,   there's definitely something strange going on. How did this guy   from, you know, working down a pit end up hanging out with royalty and all these other people and being completely safeguarded by them? There's something   very odd taking place there, obviously.  

Harvey, number one, shout out by the way, I don't shout out everybody's name because I'll miss them out. So it's just a shout out to all of you. Otherwise, it's rude if I if I don't say your name. I'm bound to not I'm bound to miss a few out. Harvey number one writes, he says, my wife was in the same room as the Yorkshire Ripper, Jimmy Savile, and the Queen.   All at the same time?   At the same if I mean, I'll post pics to Telegram later. Well, I   fascinating. Absolutely fascinating. Yeah. Amazing.   I hope you obviously, your mom did fine and came out of it. That is interesting.   It is.  

Yeah.  

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So  

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Well,   the late Dave Starbuck,  

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you're sorry. Carry on, mate. No. You speak. Well, I'm gonna try and allow for this lag. We've got a little lag.  

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Okay. I could I could, come out and come back in again. That might be a better Do that at the break. So  

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Dave Starbuck. He was in We'll take a break in about twenty minutes, Eric, and we'll do that. So do it at the break. So I'm gonna be quiet. You you have a chat now. You say a few Right. That's okay. We'll bumble through.  

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What I was gonna say is, Dave Starbuck, the late great Dave Starbuck, he was,   he he started revelation   tapes in the nineteen eighties. And it sounds like a religious group, but it wasn't. He was before the Internet,   interviewing people, telling the truth.   And he was an independent journalist.   And,   to be in it was,   before   that must have been the eighties. And he said before all he was about Jimmy Savile   broke,   people he was the, you know, he was the,   glimmer in the BBC's eye. He could do no wrong. And at that time, people said, oh, he's marvelous and all this and the other. A nurse came to see day day Starbuck   and told him that,   she,   caught Jimmy Savile red handed in the mortuary of the hospital where she worked.  

And she told him a lot about Jimmy Savile.   And when she walked out the door, he screwed the piece of paper up and shut it in the bin because he got quite a few wackos coming that would give, you know, strange stories. And he thought, oh, this is too far fetched.   Well, then the news broke several years later about Jimmy Savile, and he realized what that nurse was saying was correct.   And   he tried to contact her again, but, unfortunately,   she had passed away.   And that thing was a big regret that he had in his life. And he said he really felt guilty about that. He said, why is that about a way? Because at the time, it said it's so outrageous   that he said, you know, you get so many cranks come along telling you these outrageous   stories like, you know, I was captured by aliens on the number 37 bus and all that sort of stuff. He said that, you know, you you you had to   have some meat on the bone. Well, he said she was telling the truth.  

And, he used to mess around in the,   mortuary. And I won't go into specific details, and he didn't, but I should imagine. But, apparently, when his mother died, he sat in the same room as her for about a couple of hours   and talking to her.   So,  

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you know I heard horrific stories about him in mortuaries.   There are horrific stories about him floating around you. I mean, you don't know whether it's just sort of like, you know,   garden fenced, you know, Chinese whispers getting amplified, but there's there's definitely something very odd about, a working bloke hanging out with royalty. But, I mean, that that in itself I'm a working bloke and I never hung out with them. Not that I would accept an invite,   you know, and you only have to look at the history of Mountbatten. He was a, you know, a kiddie fiddler,   and that's why he deservedly got blown up by the IRA. That's right. Of course, it wasn't reported like that by the BBC. It was a devastating terrorist attack, but because   the actual news of it is that, you know, he was preying on innocent children as was Ted Heath. So the whole of the the whole of the sort of power structure here is is like that. You know, I heard something else as there was another little interview.  

I was I was just scouring a few things yesterday and this sort of popped up.   Now I've forgotten that you'd know the name of him.   And I've forgotten his name, unfortunately.   A detective over here has suffered a lot because of his inquiries. He's he's he's well known in this alternative information space and and he's a good interview. Oh, I know the fella. I know the fella you mean. Yes. I can't think of his name either.  

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Oh, come on. We've hit that a, Jerry. It's terrible. Mentioned it. I I I would know it know it. Yes. We're having a senior moment. You know? Yeah. But whilst we try and think of it, because   I'll I'll I'll say the same gag as I said last. I think it was on, the remembrance day.   You know, Mountbatten, he suffered from dandruff. Why? Because they found his head and shoulders on the beach. Yes. Terrible, ain't it? That's an awful gag. But,   no. I think   that I think that   I believe they're all black malleable   by the usury scammers.  

And they're that way inclined. Yes. They go into public school, and I'm not saying all public schools   are   weird, but every person without foul that I worked with   that went to public school had psychiatric problems, very severe psychiatric problems,   and had to see psychiatrists. So there was something weird about public schools. But again, I'm not saying all public schools.   But public school in Great Britain means something different in America.   And what it means in this country is like an elite school where the elites send their children. They're very expensive.   They're not what the where the average person goes to.  

But,   you've only gotta watch what Sewell says. You know remember that chap Sewell, who was an artist?   He's dead now.   Yeah. And he said that,   you know, homosexuality   in public school was all sort of, well, it's almost as if you had to do it. It was accepted.   Most of them were. If they weren't when they went in, they certainly were when they came out. Yep.  

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You know? Yep. So You don't so don't send your son Then send me some. I'm not familiar. If you value the quality of your son's spirit, it's not good.   Of course, Brian Sewell was one of them, wasn't he? He spoke in that way. Brian Sewell. Yes. He was the art critic and he spoke like the in that very affected way.   I remember reading something actually from a US   secret agent, a US secret agent. I I can't give you his name, it was an interview, talking about who were the most dangerous people out there and he talked about this type of English public schoolboy as being one of the most dangerous.   And I think he's right. That there's something   psychologically   they get warped so early on in life and it may be that they've sort of rolled the similar model out in The States   using different, you know, techniques MK Ultra and all this kind of stuff. There's something that basically   turns them strange and they're not connected up properly. I'm not saying that they were born that way, but there's there's definitely something very very dark about power structures and it's because I suppose they're so mature now. Woah. In terms of they've been going for hundreds and hundreds of years. They've refined these techniques   of breaking people Yes. And controlling them and it's it's horrific stuff. And Savile, therefore, you know, led a protected life because   he'd been supplying these people with children.  

And he had a lot he had a lot of stuff back on them. No doubt. So he he, you know, he was,   he's not someone that they could just necessarily take out, I assume. I I don't really know. He must have had protection from other areas as well. He was serving other purposes.   No doubt the whole thing is is disgusting. But this policeman that I was mentioning, whose name I can't remember,   was just talking about   this is sick as well. So we'll get all the sickness out here.   He was talking about,   people that live on narrow boats in London   on canals and things.  

Loads of them are pedophiles.   And, this it was I what?   So when I say loads,   I don't mean the majority of them. It's just that it's a known   sort of lifestyle that they lead,   and they have all these sort of signaling systems using   model fiction,   figures of action men or baby girl dolls to signal what they're into,   and it's it's really very scary stuff. So this is a very   I think it's that thing that when they have these perversions they become   very skilled at lying   like a psychopath would. It's just second nature because they they they realized early on they had to do that. Otherwise, they get beaten to a pulp. But they become so good at they fail to get detected and they move in a certain way. And so   Savile, no doubt, was absolutely wrapped up in that. The BBC are involved in covering for him.  

Cliff Richard. There's lots of stories about Cliff Richard crying his eyes out because all this, that, and the other, and all sorts of stuff. It links him with it links him with Lord Boothby,   another one of them who was hanging around with the Krays in the sixties. Yes. Lord Boothby. Yes. Yep. Yes. Seedy beyond belief. I mean, and that most of them are sort of, as you said, they're sort of public school boy toffee nosed puffters.   You know? It's that's really what happens. And they're dangerous.  

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I don't Yes. And and I think being   ripped   but be that's right. But being ripped away from your mother at an early age, I think that does something to a person's mind. Because when you look at all these troubled communities,   the child is next to the mother all the time   until they are at a high toddling age, and they're still around their parents.   Well, as we were, I mean, we come home from school and your mom's there. And she was cooking, and she was always there. We weren't actually key kids. But, the, public school boys ex public school boys I work with, one of them told me that it was a public school we went to.   They had put food out. Now his parents dumped him in a public school, I think, when he was about six or seven.  

Right. Because he lived in Beirut.   They're English. What they were doing in Beirut was anybody's cat.   Because that is drugs capital or or was it done smiling or   something to a Beirut. But anyway, one of the store, and he said, what they do,   they put,   just enough food there, or there'd be less one serving. And he said, it's like a scrum to get food, And that is like a survival of the fittest. He said, and they eat   it really unpleasant   so that you would it would toughen you up.   All the times you had to take cold baths and things like that, freezing cold in the winter, just to toughen you up.   And that was the being what I suppose in the sixties he was talking about.  



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Your internet connection's finally given up, Eric.   In fact, just to let you know everybody, not only has it given up, he's he's been spontaneously   And maybe you're slightly relieved because his signal was getting very very bad. What should I do?   He was spontaneously kicked out of the studio. How about that? So he's currently not present.   But not to worry,   I'm gonna bumble on a little bit. After the break, which is coming up in about six or seven minutes time, we've got a,   couple of songs lined up for tonight as we usually do.   We will be joined by Nathan Lucius and possibly one other.  

And Nathan's patiently waiting in the side wings in the studio. So I have seen you, Nathan. Don't worry. I'm completely aware of it, but we'll bring you on just after the break, which was the little sort of plan or structure for the show and maybe Eric will will reappear back in it.   Just to get lots of cracking comments, of course,   in both Rumble and YouTube chat. Shout out to all of you as usual.   Comment here again from Harvey number one.   Mountbatten was most likely blown up by his own.   IRA bomb making skills were largely   exaggerated. Well, that's an I'd not heard of that, but now that you mentioned it, maybe that would be a good way.  

Maybe you'd become a liability internally and so they do that and then blame the IRA. They would be a good scapegoat.   But I hadn't I I'm I'm not really up to speed and all this stuff. It's such a sordid and repellent area.   You do feel sort of   downgraded   if you spend too much time reading this stuff. I certainly do.   It's not that I don't want I'm aware that it goes on. I don't want to become sort of a world expert at it. How it's to be stopped is another question altogether.   Obviously, they've managed to be able to   place themselves in   in positions which appear to be sort of impervious to public prosecution in so many ways.  

And yet I think we have to see this as a common thread. It certainly is a common thread in all these areas.   I don't know whether it affects the high level bankers but it wouldn't surprise me.   Wasn't there an interview a few years ago with,   I think it was that Dutch banker. I'm sorry that I can't remember their names. Does it matter? You'll be familiar with who I'm referring to. He was a guy that was brought into the highest levels of finance and slowly but surely,   he was being invited to certain parties and,   informed that if his career was to go any higher, he had to get involved in certain rituals. And I think Eyes Wide Shut by Stanley Kubrick is not far wider than mark   at all.  

Of course, Kubrick died,   I think, before the film was actually fully released. There was a private screening and it was his last film   And then he,   what was it? A a very large heart attack.   I don't know what physical shape he was in. He was obviously a hardworking man.   Very interesting guy, I think, Kubrick for all sorts of reasons.   Really a maker of some astonishingly good films. 2,001 of which in my view is not one of them. How about that?   I've never really enjoyed 2,001,   but that's because I I'm not really a fan of Arthur c Clarke either.   Found it all a little bit sort of forced that. But some of his other films are absolutely fantastic.  

Brilliant stuff. Great sense of pacing.   Still I'm still yet to see Barry Lyndon,   which I've been told we've discussed it here before,   to get on with that. But,   yeah, he came to grief,   I think just after the end of that the filming of Eyes Wide Shut. So I think many of the procedures are in there are probably the similar sort of space that people like Saville   and all the others that we've mentioned over the last half hour, and there's quite a few unfortunately,   I've probably been involved with.   Probably there's a I would imagine someone's probably drawn a big sort of pie chart or a big sort of flowchart   of all these connections between   the underworld and, the overworld as it were. And it it I think it's one of the principles in masonry. It might not necessarily be masonry, but I've certainly read this stuff and maybe some of you have come across this as well.  

That they seek to control both sides   of of life.   So they're involved with the underworld, as we now know it, mobsters. They're involved there. And they're also involved in running the courts. And there's a big sort of,   I don't know, mutual back scratching business taking place. So,   I remember years ago,   I've mentioned this before, but   when I was   undergoing my rapid learning about the true structure of banking in the mid nineties,   I remember on several,   sort of train journey not train journeys, car car trips around London when we were going to meetings and stuff like that. Sounds awfully swish. I only did this about three or four times so it's nothing sort of grandiose. It's not like on Wall Street. It was all kind of humdrum in a way. But, I it was pointed out to me on one occasion there was a street   and I was informed,   by the chap that was teaching me all this stuff that there were dungeons there where the judges go and they   enjoy their   s and m sessions or whatever it is that they get up to. This stuff, and it seems to me, must be an offshoot of of their upbringing at the public schools, which is what Eric was just talking about, before he suddenly disappeared. So I think, you know, the whole of the intertwinements there. And this probably explains to it another degree, you know, why the mainstream may media being embedded with these sorts of people   is literally an untrustworthy   source.  

There's, I think I might have mentioned it last week as well. It's just reminding me of a few things.   You might not have caught it, but Liz Truss I'm just on repetition mode here, but these things are she was just interviewed by the Daily Express the other week,   about fifteen minutes.   It's good.   Forget what you might think about Liz Truss. What she says is accurate and and true from my from my playbook anyway.   And,   again, she's talking about   the nature of of who's managing and really running the nation in that particular way. So,   and if they're all involved with this stuff, is it any surprise really? Is it any surprise it should not be any surprise   that democracy is a futile sort of gesture, you know, voting for these people to get them involved and and do all these sorts of things. Anyway,   we're just coming up to the end of the hour   here.  

And I've just been   covering it. Eric has disappeared for a while. He may come back.   After this song, which I'm gonna play,   we will Nathan Lucius will be joining us in the studio and hopefully won't be having similar sound problems. I think there's quite a there's a lot of it about this, wonky Internet stuff at the moment. And, I think it could be might not just be Internet connections. There's all sorts of little things. Anyway,   I've got a couple of songs lined up for by Van Morrison. We might have played them at some point before over the last couple of years, but they're appropriate for tonight. This first one's called Educating Archie. It's about five minutes long. So you can put the kettle on or do whatever you want. And after this, we'll be back here with Nathan Lucius.   Educating Archie this one. How about that?  



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You're to the slave,   to the capitalist system,   which is real bad, the global elite.   The global elite.   What up until?   The end of video.   What up until?   Working class white.   I've filled this head with   so much propaganda.   Entertaining on TV   and all kinds of shape.   But up into   the end of Virgil.   All of his rights.   Tell you up us down.   Then   all is right.   Now, then, now, have your head on.   You say and do.   Well, how about you?   The end of video.   Tell me what?   Happened to you.   What you can do.   They took away   your constitution.   You don't even know   you.  

The   language.   But they taught you,   taught  

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Van Morrison there with Educating   Archie. So if your name's Archie, that song was specifically for you.   And, anyway, here we are. Welcome back to part two. Paul English live here on WBN three two five. Our last hour on WBN. As I said, the show rolls on. And, Eric has rejoined us. We also have Nathan Lucius in the studio. So I'll start off with Nais Nathan Hello? First. Oh, hi, Eric. Hello. Let's see. What do you sound like now? Do you sound lovely?  

[01:04:01] Unknown:

Hello.   You do? I hope so. I've rebooted the computer,   literally, and I felt like booting it out a window. And it's all come it's all been dis it's all deconbobulating.   It's all sort   of righted itself for some unknown reason. Yeah. Because I was I was in mid sentence, the thing just went off, and that was it. So I'm sorry, folks. Sorry about that. But, that's life.   Blame, mister Gates of,  

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of, what you call it, micro crap. So I think we can get into that a little bit. I I I think we can blame him for a bit. But But there we go. Anyway, Nathan's joined us in the studio. Good evening, Nathan. How are you this fair evening? And fingers crossed you're not having the similar sort of sound problems that Eric's been having.  

[01:04:42] Unknown:

No. I'm not. But, there there there has been a bit of an abusive,   abusive bit of, you know, behavior and a close relationship of mine. Well, I mean, you know, there's Eric booting his computer, and there's me,   accidentally,   throwing my phone at walls and stuff, and and it seems to have done the trick this time. It's dead.   So was that accidental? I'm just accidental.   So, I mean, I'd say I'm I'm, you know, a bit a bit upset about it. I'm not my phone was an asshole. It needed to go. I think I think   it just needs to   I don't know. I'll have a look at it and see see what we can do about it. But, yeah, it's   it's giving up the ghost. What a shame. Anyway, hi.  



[01:05:26] Unknown:

Hi. Yeah. We're all very sad about your about your smile. Phone loss. I am. I'm I'm weeping a little bit. Tragic.   It it is. It's it's quite tragic. Yeah. Yeah.  

[01:05:37] Unknown:

I'd I'd I'd ask for a funeral, but it doesn't deserve one. I mean, the only thing it does deserve is, is a I don't know, a wood chipper, a blender, a a good good bonfire, maybe. I don't know. I'm not, I'm not fussy.  

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I nearly bought a new one myself this week, but I managed to resist.  

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Viking funeral. What about that?  

[01:05:54] Unknown:

A what? Viking for you. Yeah. Stick it on a boat and blow it anyway. Why not give it a Viking funeral? That's the best.  

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Yes.  

[01:06:01] Unknown:

Yeah. Well, I do look like a Viking at the minute. So, you know, this I think that'll be very appropriate. Unfortunately, it's probably   it's probably gonna mean I'm gonna have to buy a new one at some point, you know.  

[01:06:10] Unknown:

Why do you look like a Viking? Why are you looking like a Viking? What's going on? You got a battle axe in one hand, or you've been growing your hair long and you're covered in woad possibly like a sort of picked? Nothing so excited. I mean, the hair's quite long anyway, so, you know,  

[01:06:24] Unknown:

you know.   Bloody hippies. Oh, plus plus, just before I came on, I managed to have a a a massive,   say my brain's not working. I'm gonna have brain fog for the first half an hour of this because because I've just had a hypoglycemic   fit because of low blood sugar. So now my head's going, ah. So if I if I need to go down and get some sugar at some point, I'll be fine. I'm sure.  

[01:06:45] Unknown:

There we go. This is extremely   untoward.   I know. This is very untoward. This is completely wrong. I have to make sure I send plenty of sugar up to you the day before when we have you on the next time. I can't get any sugar to you   fast enough right now, so I'm glad you've got your own supply at hand.   Yeah. Actually, I was speaking to few sweets, and I don't know if that counts, but, you know, there's a few sugary sweets, so we'll just have them for now. Yeah. I was speaking to Eli who's on here every few weeks, the other day and, just organizing something for him. He was telling me that he just had his first attack ever of vertigo and it lasted all day. And I did yeah. And I said, I said, I don't know if you can remember, but you have had a quintuple   heart bypass.  

And he went, oh, yes. I have. I said, yeah. Yeah. That's probably got something to do with it. I said, I'm not a medical expert, but, you know,   there's quite a bit going on with you and that's within the last year.   So anyway, he seemed quite jolly. Apparently, the following day, he was not so bad but,   yes. I get that. So to I mean, I've now hit the age. Don't know if you've got it, Eric. Some if I get out of bed too fast,   I've go, woah. Hang on. Put it back up. Sit down before you stand up. Yes. That's right. Yeah. Blood my blood pressure level's too low. I'm so chilled and relaxed as I sleep that if I sort of leap out of bed with a eureka moment, I sometimes go, bloody hell, I bet. Just lie down again.   I'm going, yes. Life's short. I'm not 16 anymore. It's a bit irritating because you as a bloke, you you keep thinking that you are right up to the very end. Yes. Whatever that might be. Do but do you find Do you hear about, say, Keir Uh-oh. Did you hear about Keir Starmer? He's actually had a yeah. Sorry.  



[01:08:20] Unknown:

No. No. Carry on. You started now. What is it what is it, the mastermind you've started so you you can finish? No. You all started so you must finish.  

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Okay. Well, Keir Starmer,  

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had a brain transplant, and it rejected him. Sorry. It's terrible. It rejected him. I think that's what he looks like as if he's had a brain transplant that's rejected that's rejected him. Yeah. Yeah. Well, he does look permanently stunned. I mean, there is that. Not stunning, but he does look permanently stunned. The thing is the thing is the problem the problem with what you've just said there, Chris, is that I find it does it does have a brain. Unfortunately, it's working for the wrong side. It's working a little bit too efficiently, but not efficiently enough that people can't see through as bullshit. So, you know, there's that. It's that that's a good thing, innit?   Yep. Unless it's a bit of an echo. I don't know whether that's coming through badly or  

[01:09:04] Unknown:

No. No. We're all fine. The sound's actually not good at right now. I never know quite what we're gonna get this though. English echo d d I think going back to, not that I wanna make this about a technical thing, although what I'm about to talk about really is slightly technical. It's still to do with media because the computer now has become our sort of media tool, hasn't it really? But,   this Windows lock thing,   it's getting out of hand, really. I haven't moaned about it for years because,   I should imagine possibly like many listeners here, I use Windows 10. People may be using some other version of Windows. And it wasn't by necessarily Shame on me. Because I love Microsoft. That's got nothing to do with it. It was simply that the audio tools, as you can tell from today's outstanding audio quality, but no. The audio tools,   the audio tools that we were looking for,   I could only really find them on   on Windows. So it kind of works. But,   Windows 11 Windows 10 now is out of its security   update thing. And I'm wondering, Eric, that if you're using Windows 10,   they may be running all sorts of things to make you think that you need to go to Windows 11. I wouldn't put anything past them at all. It's like soft irritations   drive you crazy, and they know it.  

And it's, you know, that's their model is that they get you in with lots of freebies and then they start to nudge you over to something else. And,   Windows 11 Agree. The more I look at it, the more unpalatable it is. I mean, that that you have to subscribe to certain things. You need a Microsoft account to   install it, maybe you have to use it each time when you log in, maybe not, I don't know. But this whole sort of invasive, it's our computer and we're letting you use it even though you paid for it, doesn't sit right with me. I'm I'm I'm not particularly happy or pleased about it. So I mean Showing here. Yeah. And I think the sorry. Yeah. Please.  

[01:10:58] Unknown:

Well, I'm   I'm thinking sorry. I I sorry. I I chime in, but,   now what I was gonna say, I'm I'm going to I'm thinking of seriously thinking of going over it back to, Linux.   It's bloody brilliant and dual boot into Linux because you won't get any of these problems with Linux. It just goes. It either goes or it doesn't go, and that's it. So, I'm a bit of a Linux enthusiast.   So, that's my that's my 10p. Well, sorry about that. I didn't mean to chime in.  

[01:11:26] Unknown:

Well, all I can say about Windows is that at the minute I mean, I'm quite a fan of Windows 10. I'm on I'm on 11. I've I've been on Windows 11 for a while, but   it is a it's a hell of a lot more efficient   than it was many years ago with, like, XP and, like, Windows 98 and stuff like that. It it runs one hell of a lot better. Even Windows seven, it runs better than that.   The unfortunate part is you've got you don't own the product. You you license it. You you're paying for a license to use it.   As part of that license, they get to advertise and dictate   what you do on it. And if you,   you know,   if you if you take it too far, they'll basically just revoke your license and then you're gonna be useless PC that that doesn't really operate anything.  



[01:12:10] Unknown:

This is true. This is true. Well, I I don't know what everybody else out there is using.   Not that we need to know. This is not a market research program. I'm not really too fussed. I know there's quite a lot of Mac users out there. The Macintosh, of course, is sublime in many ways, but I have the same sort of ideological problem with it,   which is that you get hoovered into their work space. It's very good for sound and things like this, but,   also I think the thing is when you've been using these things for a long time, you you get habituated to a certain type of workflow   and I'm really aware of how easy it is to disrupt me. I'm very easily disrupted in terms of workflow,   if I've got to learn all this new stuff. Anyway, I've been sort of taking a lot of deep breaths this week,   looking at,   using some version of Ubuntu, which is a a flight a flavor of Linux.  

And it looks as though   with a bit of   bailing wire glue and string,   I might be able to get it to do pretty much what what I've got my machine to do right now. But I think the only option is I'm gonna have to run both.   So it may well be that, you know, continuing in the audio space, I'm gonna have to carry on using Windows,   just purely for shows to be quite honest, and so sort of sound mix.   So that's what I'm planning to do. It's I used it. I used to   I run Linux for about three years up to about 2015,   I think it was. So it's it's the last ten years I went back to Windows,   but I never forgot, Linux is kind of bulletproof in a way. A very interesting,   video I saw the, I mean any of you I don't know if you guys are involved in setting up virtual private servers and things like this. I am. I do that kind of stuff.  

Of course the whole of the Internet basically runs on Linux.   That's just the truth of it. The the entire server network, the big sort of ports of call that are sending all the packets   around and all these big data centers, they don't use   Windows and pay a license for it. Who who would do that?   They use Linux and Linux actually has more developers working on it than Microsoft does because the worldwide open source community is colossal.   My main it's not a gripe with Linux because that's like saying I've got a gripe with all these thousands and thousands of developers.   They're all boffins   by the by the man in the street standard. They're boffins. Right? They don't realize that they are. If you go into any of these sites, they're all writing in code language and go, oh, yeah. You do this and then you use Java for this and all. And I'm going, look, I could spend three months of my life understanding what you're saying but I don't want to. It's not a good use of my time and that there's, a gap for a kind of really user friendly,   really simplified user friendly sort of Linux version. No doubt they will tell me that Ubuntu is it and it probably is,  

[01:14:54] Unknown:

but people have still got to get used to a thing using sort of terminal commands and they'll need to look at that. What's put me off it. Yeah. No. No. That's why I've never used it because it's like if if you're going in, you've never used it before and you've got nobody else who can talk you through it. Mhmm. You're basically up up against an operating system that you can't really utilize. So that's why I've never installed it because I just don't know enough about it, and I don't know anyone who could take me through it. So Well, it'll probably be me. I'll probably take you through it if you get if in a couple of months when I've done it, I'm planning to be on this by January.  

[01:15:24] Unknown:

I'm not I'm not in any rush with these things anymore. It's not like I've got to do it yesterday. My main problem is back is moving all my files over   to somewhere else. Sorry. We've got a bit technical here. This is a bit tedious. You've all got to face this in yet, but I've got so much sort of audio files and books particularly. My main gripe is that I've got nearly all my books using Kindle and Kindle don't run   on Linux. I'm going, oh no. Because I I actually even though Kindle is an Amazon product, it's bloody good because I can put notes in it and cross reference them and stuff like that. And as I get nerdier   with regards to sort of cross referencing information   as I get older, it's very very useful. Saves me an awful lot of time. So there's probably an alternative, but I'm thinking, oh, I've gotta change.  

And it's the it's the changeover thing. We don't like it. Yeah. I don't like change when what I've got is working, but,   yeah. No. It's actually not that difficult.   It's not that difficult.   I'll tell one of the cool things about it is the the way that the apps update,   it's it's almost seamless on Linux and it works and you don't get bombarded with security checks because you don't need them. Because nobody can write stuff really   effectively to hack into Linux desktops. It's way more of a challenge. That's why you don't need all this sort of gubbins and this sort of protection culture. Oh, you need this and you need that on Windows. Don't you? You gotta protect against this and we're protecting you against that. And you're thinking, why don't you just write an operating system that does it automatically? That that covers it. Why am I having to work so hard to get the value out of this thing? So,   but Windows 10 is good. I'll give it to you. It's been very good. It's been it's certainly been the best iteration of it that I've used.  

I started off on Macintoshes actually in the nineteen eighties. That's how ancient I am.   And, that was always pretty cool, was Macintosh. But I as I said, it's a closed sort of ecosystem, and I don't go for that kind of thing. But there we go. I mean, I'll I'll give Windows eleven one thing. I mean, Windows 10 as well, they're both efficient. They both work quickly.  

[01:17:22] Unknown:

But, again, what are you giving in exchange for that? Because   it was quite a massive,   like, an upgrade from from Windows seven that that that was a bit glitchy and, you know, programs crushed on it frequently. And then you get Windows ten, eleven. Everything just seems to work seamlessly. But, again, what what are you really giving them for that? I mean, you're the product. If it's free, you're the product. And both Windows ten and eleven Yeah. Were free. The other thing is you just mentioned there about, viruses and things like that. I'm absolutely convinced that the viruses   are done by the operators. Like, so for example,   you know Of course they are. Exactly. Because why why would they release a product that was so,   corruptible and and had no integrity   other than to sell you extra stuff that you needed to install on your system that then scans your files   for your, security and protection. So it then scans your files and then and you've given them everything because of you know, you wanna keep it all safe. You've given it to them. I'm in complete agreement on that. It's the great protection racket. It that is it's a very sophisticated  

[01:18:24] Unknown:

protection racket. Yeah. Use this and then it goes wrong. Have you noticed as well,   by the way, there's a a comment from Warren here says,   you will regret this is he's wagging the finger at you, Nathan. Right? You will regret Windows 11.   I'm I'm kind of in I'm tacitly in agreement with Warren. I don't want you to have any regrets, but I know what he means. He said, especially when you hear what Rob Braxman Yeah. Well, we all know Rob. I don't know Rob Braxman, Warren, but thank you for pointing him out. Has to say about it. He's the, Microsoft software expert   and he is angry. I've seen a lot of these things. I've been spending a couple of days, you know, everybody's going people are switching to Linux in huge numbers and they are at the moment because this Windows alone. I think it's this thing that you get sucked into their   subscription base and they're they're just going to leave me alone, you know. So,   and I'll tell you, although setting up VPS is is   if you don't know anything about it,   this is the thing. When you go to the sort of sites that are guiding you, you go, well, you write this and you do that, and I'm going, woah. Stop. I don't even know what you're referring to. It takes ages to work it. When you've worked out, you go, oh, it's logical now that I understand the shorthand that you're using in your communications,   but it's not that obvious. That said, there are so many brilliant instructional videos on Linux and other things on YouTube   they can guide you through it, but you've got to basically say, oh, no. I'm gonna have to. It's a bit like changing your underwear, you know. Bugs don't want to do that. Right? No. No. They probably do. Do we do we do we do it once a week or is it What's the month's enough for anybody? You know, there's no need to go crazy with all that hygiene stuff. Hey. That's right. That's why.  



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Yeah. Yes. And do you know what they call underpants in in Australia? Crusties.   So long time ago. Oh, yeah. I got me crusties, mate. Yeah. That's that's it.   Well, they're not   Oh. Good grief,  

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Lance. Down under. Yeah. So that's I could call that a down under.   Down under.   Exactly.  

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Here you go.  

[01:20:25] Unknown:

Anyway. So I was on a lot. I've got I've got brain fog. I've got I've got a massive excuse here. I've just done a massive hypo. I've had a crap day. I've killed my phone. I think I'm allowed to do a few crap jokes.  

[01:20:35] Unknown:

Oh, no. Eric never asked to ask for permission. We get them all the time. Yeah. Yeah. We get them all the time. Yes.   I I I mentioned in the first half Especially constipated Vicar joke.   Yes. But that's a bit too early. I don't think you've got I've nothing you got a permission to tell that one again just yet. You're gonna have to wait a few more weeks. I'm gonna get constipated work  

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waiting for you. We were  

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obviously, in the first hour,   slight technical audio of things aside, we were talking obviously about the mainstream media,   George Orwell, Newspeak. Well, I didn't even mention Newspeak, but this whole thing about the hijacking the control of media. And, of course, the BBC event really illustrates it really rather well.   And actually, that was rather fortunate because the show image,   for today's show was prepped about four weeks ago. I sort of did them in a batch. So I just got lucky really that this event had happened. Anyway, I mentioned that there was   communication about this a long time ago in the early days of the press, relatively early,   round about 1880.  

So for all of those of you who are around in '80 no doubt you will remember this, but there's a gentleman called John Swinton.   Lived and worked most of his life in Canada and then   America,   but he was born in Scotland,   stayed in Scotland for a few years of his life and then his family and his father took them out to Canada at first and he ended up in newspapers,   in America,   initially in Mississippi and places like this. Obviously, a bright and capable fellow.   But there was a gathering   at the New York Press Club   around   about 1880,   I think. Probably 1880.  

And I'm gonna read everything that he wrote that he said in this speech because you may well have heard it but it's just good to hear again. It's only five paragraphs. It's relatively brief. This is what he said. So he's addressing a lot of journalists there,   in, I guess, the heyday of newspapers. Newspapers would be a big deal then. This is still pre radio,   and they're a big deal and getting bigger, of course, with each passing year. He he said this to them. He said, he was the president, I believe, of the press club as well at the time. A very senior position.   He says, there is no such thing at this date of the world's history in America.  

You can equally apply that to England, as an independent press. You know it and I know it.   There is not one of you who dares to write your honest opinions. And if you did,   you know beforehand that it would never appear in print.   I am paid weekly   for keeping my honest opinion out of the paper I am connected with.   Others of you are paid similar salaries for similar things, and any of you who would be so foolish   as to write honest opinions   would be out on the streets looking for another job.   If I allowed my honest opinions to appear in one issue of my paper before twenty four hours, my occupation would be gone.   The business of the journalist is to destroy the truth, to lie outright,   to pervert, to vilify,   to fawn at the feet of mammon,   and to sell his country and his race for his daily bread. You know it and I know it. And what folly is this Toasting an independent   press.  

We are the tools and vassals of rich men behind the scenes. We are the jumping jacks. They pull the strings and we dance.   Our talents, our possibilities, and our lives are all the property of other men. We are intellectual   prostitutes.   Gentlemen, has anything changed, do you think, since 1880?  

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Yeah. Technology.   That's about it, though. That's about it. I mean, when did all this start? I mean, you gotta really ask this, haven't you? I mean, they've they've they've effectively what what that's saying is that they've had this control before its inception. They've had they've had the newspapers controlled   since they were newspapers. They've had radio stations controlled before the radio came along. They've got the Internet controlled many years before they released that to the public. So, yeah, I mean, you know, how long have they been planning this?   Long, long time, I think. A while.  



[01:24:43] Unknown:

A while. Mhmm. I mean, I think if you look at, say, the control   of,   the Bible, which we were talking about a few weeks ago, because it's all about information. It doesn't matter that it's necessarily about that, but it's an illustrative thing that was a very powerful force in people's lives, you know, organized religion.   And they did everything that they could to ensure   that the public were incapable of reading it directly.  

[01:25:06] Unknown:

That was, you know, five, six hundred years ago. Yeah. I remember this discussion that we had as well. Yeah. I mean, that's that's the idea, wasn't it? They keep it in Latin, then you've got to rely on your preachers in your pulpit,   to to basically inform you as to what's in there. You can cherry pick all the bits that apply to you. If you've got an author authoritarian regime, which you always do, they can then direct which bits you want your your congregation to hear so that that can then, you know, control behavior, control society, and they've done it very well. They've, it's almost like they've planned it.  

[01:25:33] Unknown:

They have. And I think, you know, we come up well, they have planned it, obviously. I mean, I think it's an instinctive thing really about controlling,   you know, what would they call us? The herd or whatever. I don't mind what they call us. It doesn't really matter. I'm not gonna get upset. They gotta call us something. Yeah. The, you know, the pigs in the field. Okay. Whatever. I don't really mind. I ain't got any damage. Does it matter what they call us? Because it only it only matters if we're offended by it. I really couldn't give a damn anymore. You can call me what you like. You know, have at it. I've been called worse probably. So, you know, alright. Call me cattle if you like.  

[01:26:04] Unknown:

Yeah. I'll call you a parasite and return. How about that?  

[01:26:07] Unknown:

You know, the the the authorities, the the those they're all not to be. That's what I'm referring to just so there's no Well, I was I was in that thought of this. Swinton's thing as well, of course, is directly applicable to what's happened here at the BBC in that the main editor in chief has lied   and has undermined everything   and has   and hasn't allowed any honest opinions in, you know, at all with regards to that, and has ended up paying this price as he rightly should have done. I mean, you know, I I would love do you think the BBC now they often make documentaries about real events in the news later on. Do you see they make one about what happened in the the cutting floor room when they were editing all those clips to make Trump look like an even bigger buffoon. I'm sorry if I've offended anybody, but,   my disposition is that I don't trust any politician   at all. Right? Not one of them. Amen. And, but they've they've gone they've gone out of their way to,   to I mean, it would be an amazing documentary. Well, we clip this a little bit. Oh, no. Don't put that in there, Nigel. This is terrible. What we do is we cut it here. There you go. We've got him saying this. I mean, literally.  

And, of course, I I think it's so valuable because the question that probably many people are not asking sufficiently often is, well, if they did that then,   have they done it before?   And and how often have they done it? And have they been doing this sort of thing for a long time?   Yes. Do you not think that they might have this might have occurred to someone like, say, Sefton Delmar in the nineteen forties and whoever his forerunners were? And, you know, Edward Bernays   and John Swinton pointing it out in 1880.   How do you know If you have such a thing as an honest journalist and it's very difficult to know you're gonna get any,   all of these sort of power structures, government, banking, the law, the media   are infected with the same sort of,   organized   organizational dysfunction and corruption.  

None of them are free   to really communicate   as if they were with us here around in the pub, in the virtual audio pub having a chat. They can't do it. They never do it. It's it's absolutely   preposterous. If a population is supposed to receive information through its media,   can you rely on any of it?  

[01:28:25] Unknown:

I I mean, just to be a little bit fair. They are they are they are giving the population information. It doesn't mean it's true. It doesn't mean it's false. I mean, this the, you know, the it's very clever the way they do it. I mean, you can't just feed your lies because it gets sourced very quickly. So they've got to give you, I reckon, about 70%   fact or 70% truth, and then and then they can they can insert their lies and deception and propaganda a hell of a lot easier because then it's harder to source the,   the the bad information from the good information, which, you know Mhmm. It's, it's, but but it's for the BBC, I I can't watch it. I just can't watch it anymore. It's their authoritarian tone that just drives me up the wall. Can't do it. Nor can I?  



[01:29:02] Unknown:

I can. I can do it. Are you ready? Here we go. Oh, god. This is the voice of the BBC.   You can trust   me. That's all you have to do.   Practice Well, is that, isn't it? It's good, isn't it? Hello. London calling. Hello. We're coming to you from Crystal Palace. I've just been to see the king. We're actually in the town. This is On this  

[01:29:19] Unknown:

hill. Yeah.  

[01:29:21] Unknown:

Hello. Go, Go, Chris.   Oh, Richard.  

[01:29:26] Unknown:

Have you disappeared, Eric? No. I was gonna say I got an appeal.   I'm still here. I'm still here. I I I can you hear me? Yes. We can. I'm now. Appeal. What during the lockdown, you know, when that those   you know, when they had those marches,   a fellow was interviewed, and he said in 1947,   there was a meeting between the government and the BBC in which they said that the propaganda that they put out during World War two was so good, we need to continue this on   into   future, you know, for the,   in the future. And it's all agreed. Now I've looked the Internet up, and I can't find it anywhere, This particular meeting in a certain place. Does anybody know anything more about this? Because I've been looking all over the place for it. Because I want it in black and white. You know, I want the meat on the bone because I can mention it and someone says, well, show me the evidence. And I can't show the evidence. So it must have been a meeting somewhere, and this chap said he's done all his research into it. Anybody know of it at all? I don't know. They'll have scrubbed it, mate. I mean, what you've got now is a digital book burning platform, haven't you? So they'll have they'll have scrubbed it from the Internet. It'll be deliberate because they don't want you knowing certain things. And if they can subtly remove things,  

[01:30:39] Unknown:

and eventually, you're gonna start second guessing yourself thinking, oh, well, maybe I didn't see it. Maybe it was, you know, from, I don't know, watched the film where it was or that, you know, somebody's mentioned it to me in the past. I mean, it's very clever.  

[01:30:51] Unknown:

Yes. It is. It certainly rings a bell, Eric. I can't tell you either. Maybe, even though we might not get an answer this evening, if there's any enterprising listener out there on WBN or,   YouTube or, Rumble who's listening to the show   and they know of this or have got the yen and urge to go and find out.   Send me the information and this is something I meant to announce earlier on. There's a contact email address now for this show. I don't and it's actually   published   on my one page website which I'm slowly we're probably going to enhance it a little bit. I've never had much time up until recently to start looking at these things.   But if you send an email into [email protected].  

[email protected].   On anything really, I'll get the email in. Don't start trying to sell me pills and stuff.   Or I already tasted it. Well, you to be fair, you've got the nicotine to sell back to them. So if they start selling your pills, you just say, right. Well, I've got I've got one for you as well. I have found some of these. I do. Yeah. We've all we we can all sell each other our own stuff, can't we? And I'll be very, very happy. But no. No. If there's anything, you know, pointers or stuff like that,   get going. I will I'll seek to reply, you know, as quickly as I can. It doesn't mean necessarily the moment it comes in, but I will get back to most people unless I get completely overloaded, in which case I'll announce it here.  

But you can send information in and request and that kind of stuff, suggestions for the show, anything like that, you know, when we're not on air,  

[01:32:18] Unknown:

because when we're on air, we're having too much fun, aren't we? We can't always pay attention to these things. Hey, Paul. Yeah. I've got a question for you. I mean, in fact, it's more of a request. So right. Unfortunately,   and it's a guilty confession. I will I will fess up to this one. I am absolutely terrible answering emails, and I feel I feel quite guilty about it. So what I'm reckoning is now that you've just made that announcement, we should link emails, and you should answer all mine for me as well. I wouldn't even pay for that. I wouldn't even send you a tenner a month to do that because my email skills and replying is terrible.  

[01:32:47] Unknown:

Well, I I I can't begin to tell you how excited I am by that invitation.   And of course, it's very rude it's very rude to to turn down an invitation, particularly when it's live and on air and millions of people are listening. But for now, you'll have to let me Oh, yeah. Think think about it a little bit.  

[01:33:05] Unknown:

Well, I thought it was an offer you couldn't refuse. And clearly, you you know, now that you need to think about it, I mean, I feel I feel a bit betrayed by this.   As as I'm sure my email may feel betrayed by me, which is I I do apologize to them though to be sure. I do get back to them eventually.  

[01:33:19] Unknown:

Yes. Yeah. Well, you know when you set up a new email account, when you set up a new one.   And and and it's great where there's no clutter in there. And then suddenly spam starts coming in and you It's not the fact, you know, I get people moaning, stop sending me this stuff. It's spam. I'm going, don't you have a spam filter?   I mean, I've I've got so many email accounts on Gmail, Yahoo, and everywhere. But I'm they worry me. They really do worry me. And but it's been very useful to sort of make use of them. If you think about the free email stuff that came along, it was about 2004,   wasn't it? Early two thousand. We had Hotmail,   then that got bought out and all this kind of stuff. They were absolutely amazing when they first came out. They were brilliant. Really, really useful.  

And, of course, little were we to know that they were gonna then effectively, like you said, you know, if it's free, then you are the product. And, of course, this is where Windows 11 has ended up. I would suggest it's it's taken a major step in that direction, which is why it's it's very distasteful. And,   it's worth acting on it now if you've got that feeling because   habit and convenience   undo most of our good intentions. Oh, I cannot be bothered. That thing. I know. I mean, you just get worn out with all these fiddly little things that you've got to do, and they are irritating beyond belief. But,   for now, Nathan, I'm gonna politely turn down your invitation to answer your emails,  

[01:34:36] Unknown:

you know, unless it was Well, if anyone wants to be my secretary, I'll answer  

[01:34:40] Unknown:

a thousand a day if you'd like. You know. So Oh, okay.  

[01:34:44] Unknown:

I was gonna say, you know, if anyone wants to be my secretary, I'm quite happy to do that, but you're gonna get paid about a ten or a month if that. So, you know, I Well, I'd love one. Wouldn't you love one? You know, I remember Yeah.  

[01:34:54] Unknown:

Or I'd I love the idea that I'm driving the whole thing myself.   You read about these authors and and and people that had a bit of money back in the thirties and forties and fifties who were writers and stuff. And they've got, you know, so and so as their second Editor's and all that. And I'm going now I'm thinking, that would be so cool. That would be great, you know. But that that means I'd have to have an office and I'd have to have a waistcoat to put on to go to the office and everything. And, you know, the little lady she didn't have to be little. She'd be huge, really. But the lady that that's in charge of the typing pool, I love the idea of typing pools and all that kind of stuff. But then I am a bit strange. I'm getting stranger as the days go by. But,  

[01:35:32] Unknown:

yeah. You know, as you're saying that though, some things just come to mind. If you need an office and as Chris is now part of this this enterprise,   you could call them fuck them offices.   There you go. I mean, any more offices. Yes. Yeah.  

[01:35:46] Unknown:

Yeah. Fuck them hall and fuck them offices. You know? I mean, what more could you ask for? Fuck them fuck them offices. That's that's a good one, ain't it? Yes. Oh, by the way, someone's called Billy Silver.   Right? He said,   didn't Dave so David Irving covered that, didn't he, Eric? What what are you seeing all these comments?  

[01:36:06] Unknown:

Rumble and YouTube.  

[01:36:08] Unknown:

They're in Rumble and YouTube. I've got rum up. To be fair, I'm not even following the rumble comments. So if if anyone's said anything to me, I do apologize. I haven't been following it. But They've been saying some terrible things about you, but I'm such a good host. I don't wanna repeat them on air. No. They haven't. Oh, no. Tell me. At this point, I'm just gonna be entertained by it. I really don't care. You know, know, it's I've I've given up all shits. Oh,  

[01:36:27] Unknown:

now look. I tell you what, there's a really good one come through right now because I think I might have found a secretary either for me or you, Eric. Because Aunt Sally writes,   that was my job. I was a secretary. Oh. A a jolly good one when you weren't taking a bath, no doubt, Anthony.  

[01:36:44] Unknown:

You know? Aunt Sally,   what what would you like to take down my particulars?   Would you like to use my dictaphone?  

[01:36:54] Unknown:

Sorry. No. Chris, this is not carry on radio. Not just  

[01:36:58] Unknown:

No. Dick  

[01:36:59] Unknown:

Yeah. Yeah. But I gotta I gotta bump it. Dictaphone. Alright, Chris. Alright. Hold on. To to talk to him, isn't it? Yes. Well Yeah. There's there's no need for that. Look. Just because I broke my phone, there's no need to say that I've been a dick to my phone. Alright. Just there's no need for it.   I'm probably do you know what? In the break, I'm going for a whiskey, and I'll probably I'll probably get a little bit more mature and sensible or something like  

[01:37:21] Unknown:

that, maybe. Well, yeah. But that that's a perfectly, thing because in the nineteen sixties and seventies,   gentlemen in their offices did have dictaphones.   They they they used to press a button and record,  

[01:37:32] Unknown:

a letter for the to type, and it's called a dictaphone. So what's wrong now? I don't know. I was trying to sort of referee a mature conversation this evening, gentlemen, but I can see it's really not way out of hand, doesn't it? It shouldn't take long. I will I went into I think it was in hand. I went into a dressmaker's shop.  

[01:37:48] Unknown:

People get the wrong end of the stick. I went into a dressmaker shop the other day, and I said, Scooby, can you tell me where I can get felt? And the woman slapped me around the face. Why? I mean, you know, it's a it's a perfectly ordinary question, isn't it? You know? It's because you're a toxic wife now. Can you imagine the feminists making all the dresses. You've what? You've done it now, Chris.  

[01:38:06] Unknown:

Just just tell them just tell them you wife unifies a woman. I'll I'll go away overnight.  

[01:38:13] Unknown:

That's a good idea, ain't it? Not a pretty sight, though.  

[01:38:18] Unknown:

I don't know. A woman in a dress with a beard? She can, sort of seem worse.  

[01:38:23] Unknown:

I think I think I think, Eric, actually, appointing aunt Sally as,   as the head of the Fockem typing pool would be a good thing. You can put it on the letterhead. That'd be good. Yep. That's good. Yes. I mean, I I know I've mentioned it before. I think logistic is never gonna happen. This is just sort of you can tell you're of a certain age when you start thinking about things that are really quite wonky that you would never get excited about when you're young. But the idea of actually having an office and working from it and doing the show   from   an office stroke studio with us all in it, it'll never happen because we're all over the place,   would be extremely appealing. I mean, I know people that do do that, and I think it's really it's quite a good thing.  

So I would I would love to do that sort of thing. It would be fantastic. I think it would actually,   improve things. Not that this could be improved much above what it is. No. It could. It always can be. And I think,   it would be it would be a jolly good thing. I mean, I I mentioned that Liz Truss thing and one of the things she said in it this is nothing genius or anything. She said, you know,   the mainstream press is losing ground, which it is, but we do need a stronger alternative media and we do.   And,   if we were able to get   more organized and actually we are able to do it, it sloths indifference or   or having to go and do other things that gets in the way.  

I'm not working as effectively as I know I can, but I'm working more effectively than I was five months ago. I know that that's starting to happen and I'm very pleased about it. But   we do have resources that previous generations have never had.   And I I think we can still make a great deal more use of them. I mean, I you know, the idea of a physical newspaper is very attractive and then I start I send back and look at it and go, yeah. But it's it's extremely expensive. You gotta look at what you can add up because I think if there were, and I think it this is an English disease and I don't know whether you feel this way, but it's almost as if we're extremely backwards about coming forward to get finance going to develop things.  

[01:40:24] Unknown:

Yeah. Because we've been we've been made to to be too polite about it. I mean, whenever I We have. Try anything like that, I feel guilty about it. Can I can I just backtrack a little bit? Right? So I've missed this in in usual case.   The whole Liz Truss thing telling us that we need a stronger alternative media. Well, it's two things. What does she mean by that?   And secondly, how how can you do that when we're under such heavy censorship and we don't say anything for actual fear of being arrested in The UK   for for simply saying things that somebody might find offensive or go against the government.  

So what does what does she mean by that, and how are we supposed to do that?  

[01:40:59] Unknown:

Well,   I don't know. I'm not looking to her for leadership. I'm just mentioning that she mentioned it. That's all. It must I probably mentioned it too much. People probably think I'm a fan now. That's not what I'm saying. I Should I go on? Well, you know, I don't   I don't mind. I mean, there are people that I don't necessarily like, but if they say the truth or it co it it's sort of like their footprint of truth overlaps with mine, I pay attention to it. I think it's useful. She's likely to get much bigger platforms than we are. The fact that she's actually   being verbally abused ever since,   her very short tenure as PM,   is actually now looking good. It's actually a positive, I think,   because   it indicates that whatever she was doing   really did put a cat amongst the pigeons with the very people that do run and manage all these organizations.  

And she's not backwards about coming forward to let you know who they are.   And this   I think that this is the this is an approach that I find at this moment in time very appealing. I mean,   seven or eight years ago, when we're when I was doing radio stuff, say, with Andy Hitchcock, we would plow into   the whole of the World War two thing in terms of the Jewish issue, the history of that in great detail.   And it was at the time,   and could be again extremely satisfying to actually go over these things because we were talking about stuff that that really huge numbers of people weren't aware of.   However, I have noted, this is not rocket science either, you introduce you take those sorts of topics into a normal situation, you won't get very far.  

But if you look at the soft approach,   I think there's tremendous amount of attraction with what I call a softer approach to this.   And, there are some very articulate people coming through and by articulate, I don't mean overly complicated. I mean, people are getting their points across really well.   I think I played that clip from Robin Pickett the other week, and if you haven't seen the thirty seven minute interview full interview with him, again, by way of promotion in this show, I would suggest you get to it on YouTube. Robin Pickett, it's about thirty seven minutes long.   It's it's filmed outside the houses of parliament   on an evening relatively recently,   and what he says is   tremendous stuff. It's because what it's doing is it's acting as that kind of   wearing down of the idiocy of the other side. And we do it best by quiet civilized speech better than any other method. And if there's one thing that we're supposed to be noted for as English people is that we can take that calmer approach, put the kettle on, have a cup of tea, calm down, be thoughtful,   and start to speak clearly about things. It's way, way better than banging the lectern. It doesn't work on our people. It it doesn't work. We don't respond to that at all.  

We can't get strident. You know? You Spot on. Yeah. I agree. Alex Jones would never have made it here. I've tried it, and it doesn't   It doesn't work. Yeah. It does not work. You're right. It's not our way. You're you're right. And I think  

[01:44:03] Unknown:

yeah.   But I think there's a need for satire.   Badly need bad need for satire because the old things like private eye and all that, they they're gone. They're they're part of the establishment.   And when you look at the light, it's a very good newspaper. Yes.   But there's nothing to cheer people up. And wars are fought and won in the minds of people. And we've got to be positive, and we've got to be happy, and we've got to laugh   at those in control and keep on laughing as our greatest weapon. I agree. I agree with you, mate. The trouble is what  

[01:44:35] Unknown:

yeah. That's alright. Carry on. I'll I'll add something to it when you finish. Yeah.  

[01:44:39] Unknown:

No. I was gonna say is,   I mean, I did the Fockem Hall Times. I did the whole lot myself, 16 pages, and believe me, it's exhausting.   And what I found I mean, you can download it. You can you can just download it free. It's it's on my,   website, fockemhallradio.com.   But the thing is is that you say, have a laugh, you write something about Keir Starmer.   Now he might be history in a couple of weeks' time if he's somebody else takes over the hell. And it's surprising how quickly   a current news goes stale.   Who remembers,   Sunak and people like that? They've gone. They're history.  

And this is the problem when writing satire. It's gotta be something that will stand   a test of time in a way. And this is the problem I can't  

[01:45:28] Unknown:

remember. So,   some something like spitting image or something that can that can, you know, take the piss, but do it tastefully kind of. But, you know,   you're right. Again, it's it's if we don't listen, the thing is, if we don't stay,   you know, positive enough to to to get through the day, what use are we anyway? I mean, if we're just gonna get bogged down by the by this, what we're hearing, there's there's no point doom scrolling and things like that if it's gonna get on top of you, you know, good to anybody. But but equally,   where the media is concerned, even in even in the alternative media, I think there's a hell of a lot of gatekeepers there, which which I think are just siphoning us and funneling us back into,   a mainstream narrative just through just just different mediums and platforms. I mean, that's all they're doing. I mean, again, not that I listen to them, but take Russell Brand.  

You know, I'll I'll give you an example. Right. About eight years ago,   whenever I tune in to YouTube to watch anything on, you know, conspiracy related or, you know, take your pick,   If I left autoplay on,   even though I'd never subscribe to either of these, it would either autoplay to BBC or it'd autoplay to Russell Brand. Right? And neither of those I would ever listen to. I'd never choose to listen to either of them. So I've had to take autoplay off on YouTube,   for that reason. And again, so so what why was it why was it also playing on Russell Brand, I wonder?  

[01:46:41] Unknown:

Well,   because he's a reformed character now, Nathan. We've been told. Oh, totally. Yeah. I believe that. He's a he he he's he's a changed chap. He's part of it. I mean, if he goes I I I think I not that I listened to it. I caught one of his live feeds   inadvertently when I was doing something on Rumble the other day. He was live. And there are 18 and a half thousand people on his channel.   So it's this thing about once you've got, you know, what tactics do you take?   You could say to some degree, we've come in at the I've come in the wrong way. I don't view it that like that. I didn't have any choice. And I don't even mind. I've not it's not about regrets. If you if you're sort of really tunneling into   very rarefied almost esoteric information, which I believe   many of us need to do that,   you need to do it maybe as a personal compulsion, but it also needs to be done. You have to have a sort of people who go, yeah, primarily I do a lot of research because I'm suited for it and I think I can once I've got it, I might be able to take it and communicate it in the pub.  

This is the way this is my you know, to the layman.   I can get it into layman's terms. This is the and get it over.   There's a great requirement for doing that. But what they've done is they've just created a huge audience based on the outrageous nature of their history or whatever.   And then and then you could say, well once I've got that audience then I could start to nudge it in the direction that I want. But there's a the danger with that is that that rarely happens. I think because once you've actually got a major presence, you do   either directly or indirectly come under the influence of those agencies   that don't want you to talk about certain things because they perceive that you've got a large audience and they don't want you nudging them in certain directions.  

And I think this is why, sorry to mention Truss again, but the mere fact that she's pointed out that Andrew Bailey, the governor of the Bank of England, is a globalist and so is everybody else that owns and runs and is on the board of directors   and the shareholders   of the Bank of England is a major thing. I and I think it's major because it's still her interview is not getting that much play either.   It's a major thing and, you know, the a major penny for us to get to drop with more and more people, and it is happening anyway, but, you you know, it everybody that assists with this is   doing good work,   is people have to get, I believe, that there is this force of play that's actually running your country. And the conclusion from that, for me, is you must not participate in democracy in its current condition.  

I'm not saying not forever. I don't know how it might change. You never know. Can we define democracy? I mean, how how would you define democracy?   The delusion that your vote is actually going to improve the management of your nation. That's what I would view. It's it's Yeah. It's a it's a self enslaving   deceit that you put upon yourself. Oh, I did my bit. I voted.   I want this party in and not that party in. But, you know, the next stepping back is but it but sir, madam, it is irrelevant which party gets in because the government, whichever flavor it is, is controlled by these agencies and you don't know who they are.   You know?  



[01:49:53] Unknown:

I'd I'd prefer to refer to to to call us, preselected   representation.   Well, you would, but I like that. Of course I would. But it is a good one to copyright.   Yes.   But but it is, though, isn't it? So the the illusion that you get a choice between, you know, blue tie or red tie even though they're both pushing the same agenda Mhmm. Well, where's where's where's the true choice in that? You know, there should be there should be hundreds of candidates lining up,   you know, if if if we had a true democracy. And it would never always be mainstream because people had lost their their faith in that a long time ago.   Well, but to me, it's like, well, you know, we've preselected this candidate or preselected that candidate for you.  

Which one would you choose? Well, neither, really. Because I don't agree with the system, full stop.   Yep. And they don't represent us. That's another lies. And, you know, elective representation, they don't represent you. They represent their own interest, their own commercial interest as well, which is a conflict of interest if we look at it from that perspective.  

[01:50:47] Unknown:

Yeah. And their own survival,   which I understand,   you know.   If they get enmeshed in a political party that gains power,   that they're done for, are they? Actually, I came across something   where is it? Here. It's very brief. I found it. So here we go. I want to play this. It's 46.   It's Enoch Powell. No. It's forty seconds. How about that? It's Enoch Powell from years ago being interviewed on American   TV   show. The point he makes though taps into some of this. He's listen to this anyway.  

[01:51:19] Unknown:

Even if today,   all immigration,   whatsoever, were ended, banged   from today,   we would still be faced   with a rate of expansion   of the immigrant   population   and their children   concentrated in certain areas,   which there is a greater anxiety   not to admit. And one understands this.   First of all, if you belong,   as all politicians do   in England, to parties who've allowed this to happen, there's a strong premium on not admitting There is a the full weight of the consequences.  

[01:52:00] Unknown:

That's key.   So these people that are in political parties,   they never ever come out with the communication that the British public are yearning to hear, something like that.   Because they're part of a party that is literally its history is of supporting this for the last forty, fifty years.   So if we can't get and I think under those circumstances, it's virtually impossible to see how it's gonna happen. If you can't get these supposed representatives   talking   honestly   and paraphrasing John Swinton there, putting their honest opinions out into the public marketplace,   we haven't got you can't have a democracy because it starts, does it not, with individuals   communicating   what they perceive as the truth and doing it with an open heart and with some level of integrity. Certainly, any level would be welcomed over what we've currently got because there's zero integrity. There's not there isn't any.  

And so the whole thing is this great delusional space held together by,   the mendacious mainstream media   to keep everybody sort of in this space the story.   This is it. This is their story. Where up, you know, most people are absorbed into it because of where it comes from. It comes from the television. It comes from the trustworthy BBC. It comes from the Times. It comes from the Telegraph. It's in the Independent. It's in the Mirror. It's in the Sun. They're all like echo chambers but pitched at different sections of the populace.   And but they're basically telling the same story that this is worthwhile, you know. This individual is the reprobate but the system's actually not bad. Whereas it's the other story. The system itself   is   working perfectly for them. We perceive it to be broken,   but it's broken with regards to our diluted view of what it can do to us, and it is diluted. It can't   achieve anything like it says on the tin.  

You'd you'd have it under false sales literature.   You can't do this. You don't manage the country. Keir Starmer, you're not in charge of it. Rachel Reeves, you don't run the economy. Please tell us who does. I can't. You know? Why? Because I'd lose my job. I might even lose my life. Okay. That's fine. Okay. Now, we understand.   But that We're never gonna get to that level of completely frank and forthright communication,   which it seems to me is absolutely vital. And if what if there's one man who touched it more closely than anybody else, it's Powell.   That's why everybody loves Powell to this day, because he stood up and he actually did represent his people   and had the courage to speak the unpalatable   truths,   which basically cast guilt rightfully   on all of the members of these political parties. They are guilty of being   absent at their post   and they're gonna   maintain that behavior pattern, it seems to me. Because if they go again it,   they're done for. And the consequences to them personally are considerable. It's a bit like down at the BBC as well. I don't think many people stepped out because they're all fearful about losing their pensions.  



[01:54:57] Unknown:

Mhmm. This guy that's just been saying is gonna get his. But but they do the same with all all so called public servants, though, don't they? They get them on the pension. The pensions are that good and that enticing, but the only you know, they they're they're so afraid to lose it. Yeah. Okay. It's a very good pension, but you've got to wait until retirement until you can get it, obviously.   But if you're a naughty boy, we'll we'll just rescind it and take it away from you. You know, there's always that threat looming over them. It's like, well, yeah, if you don't have to pull the the party line or, you know,   state policy wherever you go but, you know, if you don't, we will we might not be able to pay your pension.  

So again, it's a it's a form of blackmail if you think about it.  

[01:55:34] Unknown:

It is and of course the whole pensions thing which I don't know enough about except that it'll be completely wonky.   Part of the economy is actually kept going to keep the people that are reliant on pensions ensconced and controllable in their position. I mean, if all the pension funds collapsed, you won't be able to control these people. Go go, well, I've got nothing to look forward to anyway, so I'm gonna start blurting the truth. All these strange sort of second and third level pressures   that you don't think about you know in the first five or ten seconds of looking at a topic which are sitting there and are applying pressure on people which are causing them to behave   in an insane way.  

An insane way. This is not sane.   It's like, you know, we say here. None of the discussions about the economy are relevant because they emit   how to deal with the bank. This is primary function. It's like being   a guy that maintains engines.   Well, I know I know about, I know about the block here. But do you know anything about fuel? No. No. So so if you don't know anything about fuel and how we get in the engine, it's not gonna run, is it? Well, I don't really wanna talk about that. And that's that's part of it. There's a lack of it's why I use the word engineer. We need engineers   literally in charge of things. I don't mean social engineers. Right? We've got those, unfortunately. Well, my firm is a good idea. Talking. Yeah. But I mean, if you define you know, in my definition of an engineer is someone who when they're talking about whatever it is they've designed or built and they tell you what it will do, it does exactly what they tell you it's gonna do. They say, I've built this engine, and it will last for five years. It will last for fifteen if you maintain it every year. If you don't, five years tops, it'll fall apart. And if it starts doing that, you go this guy's got integrity because everything he says pans out and how does he know that? Because he's an engineer because he's worked out, you know, in this particular case, the stress levels on metal or whatever or the heat and or whatever it may be in their particular discipline.  

And you look at how, you know, our guys put jet engines together. I've been watching this recently. Some of these guys, you know, that we've had over here that nobody knows about. Everybody's heard about Frank Whittle and these they go off and they just go off with a pencil. This is why I talk about this stuff. And they've created something and said it's gonna do this, but it won't do that because you haven't supplied me with this. It'll fall over. And then and then you find in all of these developments government bods step in and cock it up every time. Every   single time   so that the inventions and the creativity that's on the ground that would actually help people in real life, in in practical terms, doesn't come to market in a particular way. Anyway, that said, we're coming up to the end of our time slot here on   on, on WBN.  

So thanks for being with us for the past couple of hours. We'll be back again at the same time next week. We're going to have a transition song. We're carrying on over on Rumble and YouTube and elsewhere. If you wanna tune in, go over to paulenglishlive.com   and you'll find all the links there to Rumble and YouTube.   We played Van Morrison in the first bit. We're gonna play him again   because this is relevant. I've played this before but it's a cracking tune. This is they own the media, Van Morrison top guy because he doesn't get all patent happy when you play his songs. How about that? All copyright happy. Good stuff. Song coming up and we'll be going through into hour number three after this.  

[01:58:45] Unknown:

They tell us   that ignorance is bliss.   I guess for those that control   the media it is.   They own the media they control.   The stories we are told,   if you ever try to go against them,   you will   be ignored   because they control.   They control.   They control the narrative. They perpetuate   the myth.   Keep on telling you lies.   Tell you ignorance is bliss.   Believe it all and you'll never get   never get wise.   To the truth because they control.   Everything   you do.   Everything you do. Everything you do. Everything you do. Everything you do.   Everything you   Never   get   wise.  

Wise   to their   lives, to their lives.   They can control the   media.   They control   the media.   They control the media.   They control the media.  

[02:01:50] Unknown:

And I just want   the anti American,   anti Israel,   anti West crowd to understand something.   You're gonna have to come through me and millions of people just like me,   and you're not gonna make it.   You think your stupid little podcast   or your stupid little   subscription program   or your little TV show   or maybe you have a little radio show   is gonna change the world like hell it is, not if I and everybody else have something to say about it.  

[02:02:28] Unknown:

Thanks. That was, Mark Levin telling us where to go.   He's a radio host apparently in The States. So our shitty little radio show, sorry about that, but we're gonna keep on with it. The song He he had a new guest on. I'm thinking, oh, this guy's a straight talking bastard, isn't he? Yeah. Yeah. He's a lovely guy. He's great. He's full of it.   Anyway, the song was, They Own the Media by Van Morrison. And as I mentioned there, just before we played it,   he's,   he owns all his music and he lets you play it. How about that? Which is wonderful. And, of course, him being very very talented and easy to listen to helps and the lyrics couldn't be more spot on. I probably would wanna play that every week but we don't it drive everybody mad but I I love it. It's, it's very apt for tonight's show. So there we go. So there you go. If you're doing a crappy little podcast, Mark Levin's out for you.   So I just thought you ought to know is to cheer you all up. I'm shaking in what's left of my boots because I've worn them out this year. I've been walking around them so much they're falling apart now. I only bought them in February and they're all gone. But it's not bad. They only cost £25.  

So I think, you know Yeah. You look you  

[02:03:34] Unknown:

my problem with boots is the laces always snap.   I've got these really posh well, I say the posh boots. You don't know. You're over 64.  

[02:03:41] Unknown:

Nathan. You're too strong.   You're too reckless with your your laces.  

[02:03:46] Unknown:

Yeah. Well, I'm also I'm also a skin flint, so I just basically I just knot them back together and hope that that holds for a while. It tends to. So, alright. There you go. How's that for sustainability? I'm saving laces. Why not buy yourself?  

[02:03:59] Unknown:

Well, buy yourself some Aultbergs.   That's what the British army is. I'll steal about Aultbergs. They're bloody good. They're called Aultbergs. They're made in Yorkshire   and.   And Oh, man. Last a lifetime, and you can get them secondhand,   on, army surplus places.   And new, they're over a £100, but you can buy them secondhand, and they've hardly there's no wear in them at all. They look they look new,   for anything between 30 and £50.   How much? The, but   about 30 to £50.  

[02:04:31] Unknown:

That's the northern battle cry. If you're from Yorkshire,   whatever it costs, that's what you say. How much?   I don't think so. Come on. We'll go somewhere else. Yes. That's how it works. Do you know what? Every time.  

[02:04:44] Unknown:

What about I went down the shop the other day. I was in, TK Maxx and just it's literally the stuff everywhere. I'm going, well, that's great, that is, except for the price. I won't be paying that for it. It's just I'm just thinking what I mean, everything is just massively overpriced now. And I just I I can't be bothered. I'm just like, well, that's overpriced, didn't it? Don't you think? Yeah. It says actually, I'm not yeah. Yeah. I'm not buying it.   And then you find some that should be £20 and it's too quid and you're like, oh, damn it.  

[02:05:10] Unknown:

You know? I don't know what it was like for you when you were younger, but when I was younger, my mom was like that everywhere when we went shopping, and it used to embarrass me. I just thought, cut it. Why? Yes. Because I'm about eight. And she go, we're not paying that. And so they could hear. You know? It was just really upfront. I'm not paying for that. Well, that's the price, madam. Well, we're off somewhere else, you know. You shouldn't sell such ropey stuff.   It was great. I just love it. It's fantastic. It's it's sort of the energy of proper shopping, not like all polite on online stuff. I mean, I'm a bloke. These days nobody cares anyway. Nah. I bloody hate shopping. I'm a bloke. I can't stand it. It's just irritating. I go, I need a jumper. Why is there not one in my wardrobe? Oh, you mean I've gotta go and buy a new one? Oh, god. It's not the money thing. It's just the effort of having to go and pick one out and then you get it. So it was a stunt and suit you right. Oh, bloody hell. Bugger off. You know, it's just to keep me backside warm or something like that. And,  

[02:06:04] Unknown:

the worst thing and I know that we've gone up a bit off track here, but the worst thing for me and I'm good. Right? So oh, god. This is gonna be embarrassing. Right? I've got I've got size six feet. Right? Now for some reason, most shoe shops. I know. I know it's not proportionate.   So before it one accuses me of having a little ding dong, sorry to disappoint you. You know, it's there's no there's no proportion there. Anyway, it's it's it's not relative. Anyway, so I went into ShoeZone a couple of weeks ago. I know I couldn't resist. And and so they said, well, the problem that we've got is the children's shoes only go up to a size, what is it? A size five. And then the adults start at a size seven. So even by their own admission, it was bloody daft. And I'm thinking, well, they're okay. So so I hate shoe shopping because of that. It's ridiculous.   But you should get your proper bloody feet for a star. This probably explains Tell me about it. This probably explains why you had your blood sugar rush. I don't know what's going on there. Well, I don't. I'm on the whiskey now, so I'm probably gonna get another one shortly. But, actually, I do a few whiskey. I hate my feet. I do. Oh, yeah. Mark Anthony's laughing at me there. Yeah. Laughing up, Mark. Yeah. I mean, to be fair, it is it is bloody stupid. I'm I blame your mother. I think those were somewhat like a size four foot. It's ridiculous to blame genetics. Well, I I haven't seen your feet, but I suspect neither there's anybody else either.  

Six. Well, I know some alright. Yeah. I know, but it might be size six, but I can use my toes as fingers.   You've gotta see you've gotta see it's great. I can pick stuff up and then lift it up and great. It's like, I can I can even I can oh, you do you know what? I reckon if I put an OnlyFans channel on just my feet, I'd make a bloody fortune picking stuff up and writing with me toes and stuff. There you go. That's crazy as Get me in. I'll stop. Whisky talking. I'm it's it's all lies, really.  

[02:07:40] Unknown:

I'll stop. That'd be great. I I think I'd be care I mean, if I had feet that small, I'd be careful how much whisky I drink. I can't imagine how you could keep your balance at me. It's just unreal. Well well, I've got a minor of the size twelve. I'm about twelve and a half. Oh, bloody hell. Yeah. Yeah. And I've got hands that are as big.  

[02:07:55] Unknown:

You know what they say about blokes with big feet, don't you? Big shit. Yeah. Yeah. But that's what I'm saying. It's definitely not in proportion. Hate to disappoint people. Does that mean he's got a tiny ding dong? Sorry. No. No. I've got a very nice one of those, haven't you? No.  

[02:08:07] Unknown:

Eric's staying staying taking me silent here. I think you can read a lot into that. He's not Yes. Yes.   Well, I'm We don't know what to say. Size eight, which is the most  

[02:08:18] Unknown:

which is the most common suit shoe size there is. But have you tried barefoot   shoes? Because that's what I wear, barefoot boots.  

[02:08:25] Unknown:

They're bloody brilliant. Jesus. I was tempted to say something else about barefoot there, but I think I'll keep that one to myself. I could come across really bad. Yes. No. Carry on. Hereditus has got a a Yes. An interesting observation about your feet, Nathan.  

[02:08:38] Unknown:

He thinks that you might be like mister Tumnus from the Narnia stories.   And are your feet are your feet cloven?   And, it's an interesting point, Herodotus. A very good observation. It hadn't struck me in that way, but this is this is my People have finally clicked. I've got cloven hooves. Is that what we're saying? Is that Yeah. Well, actually, with your beard, you know, you do have a bit of a look about of mister Thomas. I know. I've been told I'm very elfish looking as well. I know. I got told you I've had I've had every every name, every every insult going at this point in time. It's just like, shit. Go on. Be creative. Let's see what we can get next. So it's quite fun. I don't think being called an elf is necessarily an insult. Not if you've got magical powers. That would be quite useful, wouldn't it really? That would be quite good. Magical attributes, does that count?  

[02:09:21] Unknown:

I don't know. I I have no. I'm not see see this is where the way this is why I shouldn't drink. I'm not gonna finish that sentence because it's,   I mean, it's probably It's making a show quite interesting. We've We've come off on a strange direction, but I don't really mind. It's just whether you can make it with such small feet. Can you actually walk the path? I've made it I've made it forty five years with these little buggers. Do you know what? If I was Roman, they'd call me Caligula. That's the funniest part about it because that means little boots, doesn't it? But but equally   Really? Getting upstairs is really great because my my foot's just just slightly over the size of the steps, so I don't have to worry about, like, legging it up and down the steps on tiptoes.  



[02:09:57] Unknown:

Well, it's it's nice talking about feet size and footwear. Yeah. Someone could say we're talking about a lot we're talking a lot of cobblers,   which which, there's definitely room, you know, I I'd be hard pressed to disagree with them really, but it's, very interesting. I don't know whether you should have said that or not. But But you did. I I genuinely don't care. Yeah. Yeah. It's over. It's it's all over. That's a ruined And I'm I'm winning by saying It is.  

[02:10:21] Unknown:

Fucking   hell.  

[02:10:24] Unknown:

I'm gonna I've got something that every everyone will be envious of.  

[02:10:29] Unknown:

Oh, I can't tell you. You might as well you might as well disclose it now then. I'll  

[02:10:33] Unknown:

I will show I think aunt Sally's seen it as well. It's my bunyon   on my foot. Woah. Yeah. A nice bunyon.   Lovely.   And,   you know,   if you like, I'll show you my growth. No. Actually,   it's it's,   do do you remember that on was it,   oh, what was it? It wasn't Python, was it? A bloke whose uncle had suffered from every disease or something. What was it called here?   Can't think of it. Something ripping yarns   with Michael Brown.   Yeah. And that was classic. But, no, I've got a beautiful bunion.   So and what do you think of my bunion, aren't Sally? I think he's a very nice bunion. You've seen it. Miles has seen it.   Mosey's assistant has seen it, and she's always seen the bunion as well.  



[02:11:22] Unknown:

Hey, Chris. I've got a question for you. I've got a question for you. So you know how   feet usually smell   a bit cheesy?   Mine do. Yeah. Does does that mean you've got cheese and bunion feet?   I mean, yeah, I mean, you could sell that to walkers. I mean, you know, they'd they'd pay for that one. Yeah.  

[02:11:40] Unknown:

No. Could it? Yes.   Eric's cheese and bunion feet.  

[02:11:46] Unknown:

But I sure see you reply with a salt and vinegar.   Oh, dear. Oh, geez. I know. Look. I did tell you it's been a weird bloody day. It's it's, you know. Oh, hang on. Sally's got two bunions. Oh. Yeah. But hers are lovely. Right. Hers are lovely. Yeah. But mine mine's a lovely bunion. Mine is on my big toe. So her son has got two lovely bunions. Yours is probably a hideous male bunion. We don't really wanna go there. And Sally also, she's thinking of you too, Nathan, she makes a comment here that you probably would be able to fit women's shoes as well. I don't know quite where this conversation's taking. I know. I know. Do you do you know? Right? It's bad enough being told that you can get a kid's shoes, but when they start to say, no. Have you ever had a look at the women's? Yes. I have. Sawed off. I think I'll get them online. Thanks very much. But You'd be You know what you want me to wear with? High heels.  

[02:12:33] Unknown:

You'd be involved with Well, I'll get some new friends.   Yeah. You'd be involved with the fashion of the day. You might make more friends.  

[02:12:41] Unknown:

Well well our honky tonk.  

[02:12:42] Unknown:

I've got enough I've got enough friends. I don't need any more friends. I've got tons of those buggers anyway.  

[02:12:50] Unknown:

Anyway swiftly swiftly moving on. Yeah. Sorry about that. No. Okay. Swiftly moving on.   No worries. I've just I've just changed the image in the studio,   Nathan, which you could should now be able to see.   And, you sent me this earlier today or yesterday. This is about an upcoming event that you're in with, Mark Devlin and Steve James. Yes. Who who Steve's well known because he's on Eric's show every Monday or Sunday. He's on regularly with, with Eric.   And thought, this is now getting beamed out across Rumble and, YouTube. I thought you might want to say a few words about this. And also, I have a question.   Those three wise men in the bottom right hand corner, which one are you? That's what I wanted to know. Probably the one with the small feet, really. Although, it's difficult to tell. One with the small yeah. But you can't see the feet, obviously, clearly. That's why I had to ask you to see.  



[02:13:38] Unknown:

I mean, you know, at this rate, I I'd I'd go oh, I don't know which one's got the gold. I'll just take the gold and run. I'll take the middle one. Right. There you go. He's got the crown and the gold. There you go. I don't know whether people can see that on YouTube. Is it is it believe me No. They're about to in a minute. They're about to in a minute. Don't worry. I'm I'm about to actually sort of do something sensible. And, actually, I'd forgotten that. I've got a two stage beaming process here. So there we are. So it's,  

[02:14:01] Unknown:

yeah. Sorry. I And this is this is but I I actually think that Joseph,   my wasn't very good in, shall we say, when he when they handed out brains, he thought they said trains, and he missed these. Because you think your wife gives birth and she's a virgin,   and three blokes arrive on the seat bearing seen raving gifts. Wouldn't you be mildly suspicious?   Would you say what I mean? And what are the bleeding gifts? Myrrh. You wanna stick your blade in myrrh. You stick I'll keep the gold.   Myrrh, what's that?   You know?  



[02:14:34] Unknown:

Well, yeah. I mean, I'd I'd say gosh as well.  

[02:14:37] Unknown:

The. Spices, isn't it? Well, I want the gold. Yeah.  

[02:14:40] Unknown:

Just just so so do you not know the the the story with with Mary and Joseph?   Because,   what we're told is that basically she is carrying somebody else's child. Don't get me started on the immaculate conception because I can annihilate that one in two seconds.   But let me come back to that. So so Joseph   basically agrees to marry Mary so that she doesn't have to go through all the embarrassment and the, you know, of of basically,   you know, bearing a child at a wedlock and things like that. Insofar as immaculate conception,   let's just a little bit of word play for you. So the initial,   original translation for this was Alma. So where where where you hear the word virgin,   it comes from the word Alma, which means young maiden. It doesn't it doesn't mean necessarily that she was a virgin. It's it's got a three three like, there's three different meanings attached to it. Young maiden or woman of breeding age is number two, and a third meaning was was virgin. So, obviously, the church has taken it as oh, well, we'll just go for virgin, make it all mystical, make it all about immaculate conception.  

But there you go. Have a look at the original translations. You you'll you'll soon find that it's not it's not as fantastic and as mystical as it as it sounds, but there you go.   Just thought I'd throw that in and offend some Christians.  

[02:15:54] Unknown:

You know, sorry about that. We're all inquirers here, but,   this event anyway. So it is getting beamed out over the platform. Sorry about the delay everybody, but I I realized that I pressed the wrong button.   What's it about? What are you doing? What what's the date and everything? You've got a little sort of window here to do some salesmanship.  

[02:16:13] Unknown:

December 17. What day is that? What day is the seventeenth? Oh, right. Okay. So the December 17. So I'm probably gonna get a shot for saying this.   We didn't do this deliberately before anyone accuses us of of it, but basically, the December 17 coincides with the Roman festival of Saturnalia.   So, you know, there's that So Wednesday. Basically, this is   it's a Wednesday, but it's, you   know, it is.   So what it what it is is there's a lot of esoteric stuff around Christmas, around the sun, around the   constellations,   the zodiac, and, you know, things like that. So Steve, James, and myself have done in the past presentations which cover this and cover the esoteric,   history, the esoteric tradition behind Christmas,   and look at the similarities   between that and all the traditions as well as looking at at the the, you know, the occult meaning of it, the mystical part to it. And it is it is genuinely fascinating. It's been you know, you look into things like, reindeers and and, frigging hats.  

Because there's just so much stuff there. The three wise men, as you can see from the graphic, I don't know whether it's on there, but, that that certainly seems to insinuate a certain star constellation proceeding,   you know, Sirius, which goes back to the Egyptian Horus and and and Isis and, you know,   Osiris and Isis, basically.  

[02:17:30] Unknown:

Mhmm.  

[02:17:31] Unknown:

Right. I'm gonna get back on track. So, yeah, we've got we've got three presentations from Mark Devlin, Steve James, and myself.   It's an all day event. It starts at 12:00 in the evening, goes all the way until 8PM.   You'll be able to buy   Mark's books. You'll be able to buy buy my books at the at the presentations as well.   So for anyone who's interested, there is a there is a link there to book tickets. There's the address on the poster. So if anyone wants to get in touch, you know,   my address, if anyone's got a pen handy,   if you want further details on this occasion, I'll try and answer my emails as quickly as possible, which is Nathan lucius phpgmail   dot com. So if anyone's got any questions, come through on that. Otherwise, if you want to book a ticket, it's on the poster. There you go. I'm not a salesman. I'm shit at doing this kind of stuff. I'm alright putting posters and things together, but I'm absolutely terrible at selling my own stuff.  

So Steve James is better at doing that than I am. But anyway, anyone who's interested, please would love to see you. Come along. We we're it's a fantastic trio. I'm gonna say that because I'm part of it.   And there's a lot of stuff to learn and there's a lot of esoteric details in there that that I think people will find fascinating even if they don't agree with it. It's fine.   You know, it's not to offend anybody, but, you know, get yourselves along, see if you can learn something mystical and festive. Have a nice Christmas. Have a drink while you're there,   and, you know, have a chat with myself, Mark, and Steve. So, you know, just just get yourselves over there if you can. It's a bit out the way, though.  



[02:18:54] Unknown:

And so is that so just on your email address, that's [email protected].  

[02:19:01] Unknown:

Was it g mail dot com? Okay. That's the one. Yeah. So I've I've just put that in the chat in both the chats. Well, I've I've put it in the rumble chat. I'll just add it into the Yeah. I was gonna say, I think you the reason I put my address in two halves is because YouTube doesn't like you to put that kind of thing in there, so it kinda senses it out. So the reason I put my email in two halves,   is for that reason. So I don't know whether it'll come across any better on your,   like, on your comments, but that's why I've done that.  

[02:19:26] Unknown:

Well, I typed it in. It's bound to come across. No. I've put it in with the the whole thing's in there, so that's okay. It should be there unless it doesn't pop up. Mate. That's alright. That's fine. So get in touch with Nathan about this event if you, are able to make it up to Seaton Terrace Social Club. And whereabouts is Seton Terrace Social Club roughly? It's in North Umbria Land, which is where it comes from. Yeah. Is it North Umbria Land, now now known as North Umberland?  

[02:19:55] Unknown:

Whereabouts is where's is that a big place, Seton? Or where's the nearest big city or town in those parts? The nearest so I get so this is near Steve. So thank you to Steve and his wife for for, you know, securing the venue for us. I mean, that's that's that's the date that we could get. So we had to you know, we've worked with what we've what we've got. But it's up in it's up in,   I I think the the closest place to is Blythe, which is just North of Newcastle. So, again, if anyone,   needs directions,   Google Maps will tell you where it is. Well done. Just North of Newcastle.  



[02:20:25] Unknown:

Just how how miles North of Newcastle? An hour's drive North of Newcastle. Yeah. It's about an hour North of Newcastle. 45 miles. Is it something like that? 40 miles North of Newcastle? Yeah.  

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Okay. It's a it's a pleasant little place to go, though. I mean,   we've we've had a couple of of of, like,   sound baths on the beach in the past as well, which is which which is I think that was there as well, which is where we've basically had a sound bath and slept on the beach all night, which has been   absolutely fantastic. I think the first one we did was on the,   summer solstice.   Right. Yep. So so that was that was very nice. And then the second one was kind of September ish, but there was I think it was September. It was a bit chilly then, so I don't think we'll be doing a winter solstice one. No. So it's basically  

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five weeks as of yesterday.   Yes. Five weeks as of yesterday, which was a Wednesday.   So, okay. Well, I I'm not making any promises. I've got very large feet. I don't know whether they'll let me into North Umbrieland. Well, you know, you'll have to you'll have to pass the calygular test, won't you? I'm the thing is, Wednesday, it'll be a bugger for me to get back to do the show. That would be the problem.  

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But, you know, I could always take it towards holiday on the show. I'm due to I'm gonna say you've got an option there, mate. I I'll give you I'll give you an option. If you wanna do this the show, why don't you come and stop with me for a couple of nights and you can broadcast from here? You'd be quite welcome to do that if you like.  

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But I'd have to look at your feet then.   I don't know. Well, let me think about it. Listen to the cheese and bunions. Well, I'm due to head up north to Yorkshire to see relations and all that kind of thing at some point. Oh, well, okay. And,   yeah. I was even looking to buy a car to I haven't had a car for eight. First time in my life since about 20 that I've not had a car. I haven't missed it at all. There were all sorts of reasons,   and I keep looking at hiring them, renting cars. And the amount of times I go on long journeys, it's actually gonna be much more cost effective for me to just rent a car for, like, four or five days. They they're cheap as chips these days. They don't cost much. And I'm thinking that's what I might do. Anyway, this is really rather tedious for everybody who might not be going. But if you if you are going,   that's,   Nathan's the guy to get in touch with. [email protected].  

We put it in the chat here on Rumble and YouTube.  

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It's on the image somewhere, although you'll have to blow it up full full screen, I guess, if you listen to the broadcast right now. So it's on the bottom left, it'll give you a little a little link to wait and get your tickets from. You can communicate. It's it's like Kofi, coffee. It's like, you know, basically buy me a coffee, but it's I'm I'm new to it. So Holly set that up for me the other day. Nice. You can communicate with me through that. But if you do book your tickets online through the coffee app,   please remember to put your name and email address with it so that I know, you know, who's basically booked. Mhmm. You know, it's it's   and, obviously, that'll secure your place. There's plenty of seats available. There's plenty of, you know, that I I don't really think we're gonna fill the whole.  

It's a fair size by all accounts. So but, anyway, look. I mean, look. It'll be festive. It'll be mystical. It'll be very,   educational.   Mark Dublin's got a new a new pod not podcast. He's got a new presentation as well, which is all linked into equinoxes and solstices, and he's he's obviously linked it into his his own work about the music industry.  

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It's, you know, get yourselves along. By the way, if anyone who's never met Sounds a really good afternoon and evening out, actually. Sounds really good. Yeah. Have have you sorted your running order then? Or is there who's going on first? Who's going on last? Do you know? Obviously Yeah. I know. I've been I've been asked about this. You're drawing straws on it. It maybe it maybe it's gonna be an ascending feet size, Nathan, or descending. It all depends.  

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Oh, it looks like it's going first then, doesn't it?  

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Hold it. Well, it's descending. You might might be last. Who knows?  

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Well, I'm thinking we need Mark on an evening. So, obviously, with it being a Wednesday,   you know, people are still probably going to work. I know it's the end of the season. It's the end of the the Do they still do that? But   Yeah. Still doesn't know. I mean, you can sickie? I mean, if anyone needs to pull a sickie, there's plenty of excuses. Just tell them you've all got COVID. You know? Oh, damn it. There's your channel gone. Sorry.  

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Well What's that? Yeah. I don't know what you're talking about. Really?   Oh, it's a lucky mate. Why is it coming back? Is it you? Yay. COVID two. Come on. Just when you thought it was safe to go out into the street and buy some sausages, it's back.   So, yeah. That'll that'll be well, I don't know. It'll give us more material for future shows. We can sort of rerun the whole thing, although I think everybody's kind of exhausted with that madness.  

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But maybe they feel they've sort of mildly Let's let's leave that one. Mhmm. Yeah. Let's leave that one. Just, can I can I, do a little bit more advertising here as well? No. Please do. Steve Steve James and myself, we've we've started a new podcast series.   Because I'm always delayed doing stuff, I've not uploaded the videos yet, but they will go live. We've got two so far. There's another one coming at the end of the week with we've we've got a guest hopefully lined up for that one. So when that's up and running, I'll I'll link that to to various channels through Telegram and stuff. So if anyone's interested,   you know, Steve James and now we've we've got a channel that investigates things like natural law,   you know, the occult, mystical stuff, little bit on conspiracy related issues. It's, you know, it's any anybody who likes what Steve and I talk about, it it'll be on there. It's   you know, it we're we're trying not to make it too serious. We're trying to keep it a little bit upbeat whilst whilst just getting it, you know, putting a few presentations in there as well.  

I'll let you know when it's up and running, but it's all linked into this. And the the reason I've gone for a Christmas,   seminar is, again, because of the the the secret traditions behind it, I think people will find fascinating, especially when they look into things like Santa Claus and Krampus   and mushrooms, especially things like that. Elves, you know, don't you know, elves obviously with small feet. And, there's tons of stuff in there.  

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What about Randolph, the brown nosed reindeer? Randolph, the brown nosed reindeer. Interesting. I'm not I've never heard of that. Comments on that, mate. I'm I'm I'm making no plans yet. Randolph, the brown nosed round out brown nosed reindeer   actually ran behind Rudolph and had problems with stopping.  

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I'm sure he did. I'm sure he did. And you know this you know this obviously because you were a reindeer rider.   I know. And and you've been on the head on Sly Garrick.   Did do you know what? That's the worst. Where the idea   oh, just sorry. Just to just to interrupt. Do you know where the idea of flying reindeer came from?   Where did it come from, Nathan? But I'll keep Right. Okay. So so probably people in the chat already know this, but, basically, so, you know, you had the Viking,   the Berserker gang. You know, the ones that basically went into battle naked with an axe,   two axes, I think, in some occasions. So, basically, what they did United supporters.  

Yep. I know. Well, not that bad. Not that bad.   But anyway, they they would get the Fly Agaric mushroom   and basically consume one, which would send them into this, you know, tripped upstate, this this delusional,   drugged upstate where where they would see all kinds of trippy psychedelic stuff, and they were charging a battle with the full intent of never never surviving the battle.   But what they what they found is that the fly agaric is actually quite toxic to to humans in in, you know, basic consumption. So they would feed it to their reindeers   who would then   basically filter out the toxins and,   you know, urinate out the   the the the toxin, you know, the sorry, the potion, basically, so that you would then consume that as a as a psychedelic drug,   which obviously, if you see reindeer, which you'd have had a lot of in in Scandinavia, you know, that's sort of like Nordic locations,   you're gonna see some really trippy stuff. You know, elves, people riding riding reindeer, flying reindeer,   probably, you know, weirder stuff than that, I would imagine. But, yeah, there's there's a tradition behind that. Hence, the mushroom You lost me a bit though. That's where you're saying that they would give it to the reindeer.  



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The reindeer will urinate the toxins out.  

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Well, they would get to so so   they they would they would filter out the toxins and then and then they'd urinate basically the the the purified version of the of the mushroom. So it so that they they could then consume that as a Well, you said the vikings were drinking reindeer urine. Is that what you're saying? I I I think I think lots of I think lots of people were doing this even far beyond the vikings. I think this went far into the Christian era   and, up until modern well, obviously, clearly, there's a tradition, you know, Christmas traditions to do with this as well. So yeah. It's   it's it's an interesting one. Seriously, that's  

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that's where the word pissed comes from. Seriously, that that's where it comes from. Oh, hey. Tell us a tell us a bit about that.   Well, apparently, the the the actual, medicine men used to drink these sort of this this so used to have these funny mushrooms that sent them onto a trip.   And the idea was you collect their wee wee,   and that would send you on a trip as well. And that's where the seriously, that's where the term pissed comes from. Yeah. So people drink piss. And then that is serious. I'm not saying that's a joke. That actually was a serious thing. So, it's a bit like the old, saying, pissed as a newt.   Now that didn't exist in Great Britain before the Americans came here in World War two because what they used to say is pissed as an Inuit.  

But up in Norfolk, where a lot of the American Air Force bases were, they misheard what they said, and they thought they were saying pissed as an newt. But it wasn't. It was pissed as an Inuit because members of the Inuit tribe were always drunk. So there we are, a little bit more Nice. Info.  

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Yes. Not many people know that. Inuit come out of the interesting thing. Bad combination,   I suspect. A bit like Yes. Apaches and whiskey  

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doesn't work for them. Very, very bad. 05:00. Doesn't work for me either, mate, but I'm drinking it anyway. So Yes. There we go. That looks a nice place. I've just looked you up on,  

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Wikipedia. Whit Whitley Bay, that looks very picturesque as my dad used to say. Picturesque. Squeeze? It is picturesque. It's a lovely place.  

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Yes. So, date right. So in in YouTube comments, Daisy's there. So day Daisy's co organizing this with myself and Steve.   So, you know, if if anyone's got any questions, please feel free to ask in the comments. I'll answer as best as I can. I'm a terrible salesman, but I'm I'm good at presenting stuff. So Well, I got a question.  

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Go for it. Why not why not go live on the Internet so we could all see it at the same time?  

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Potentially. Yeah. A question.   Well, my laptop is   probably capable of recording it, but I'd need a I'd need a microphone,   to go with it. But but so that's potentially  

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potential. Why don't you just stop?   Call it the local BBC.   Call it the local BBC thing. Tell them that you've been paying your TV license. You want a bit of money back, then they can send a crew up and film it all. I mean, I'm sure they'd be happy to accommodate you. Oh, yeah. Yeah.   So, you know, and you won't mention that they, they've been editing newsreels and making mister Trump look like an evil  

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person. What? Trump the savior? No. He is a president. I read it in the newspaper. It must be true. Alright. Everything's gonna tell you. Somebody said it.  

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It's very I mean, he's a good example really of this sort of mix mash of good stuff and bad stuff, isn't he?   Very much so. Yeah.   There's I mean, there's just the there's these sort of ridiculous things that he says. And then there's these good things that he says, you know, that you go, oh, well that's alright. But unfortunately, they tend to get counteracted   by some of the madness that he says all the time, you know. There's a lot of that going on. Somebody sent me something through today, a little observation. How about this? This is oh, this is from Andrew Torbert, who's the head of GAO. Oh, go on.   So he put a little tweet out or an x, whatever you wanna call it.  

I quite like this, he says. So Trump's message to the American people this week.   You're too dumb to build things. We need 500,000   pajeets a year to fill the jobs.   You're too dumb for college. We need 600,000   to fill the school slots.   You're too poor. Here's a fifty year mortgage and a one time petty check for $2,000   to get you on your way.   You're not struggling financially. The stock market's doing great.   Here's my new gold plated room in the White House. I think that pretty much sums it up. Did I I I did catch his comment about these 600,000   Chinese students coming in. The comment was, oh, the colleges need them. Otherwise, they'll go out of business.  

What kind of cack handed benefit is that? This is just retarded stuff.  

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Of course, basically, what he really needs to say is, oh, by the way, I actually work for the globalist too. Hello. Here's my credentials. Pretty much. That's really all it is. I mean, of course, they do. Of course, they bloody do. I mean, it's, you know, you don't really you don't get that kind of opportunity unless you're working for the,   for for the side that funds you. Again, there's a financial institutions, isn't it? It's all we're they're always in the background. Those lovely financial institutions and the policy makers, BlackRock and Vanguard, they're always there as well. So, you know,   everyone's   even if even if they're not originally, even if they put new platforms up or the you know, something creative and original,   Eventually, they'll offer you a price. And I my personal philosophy is everybody has a price. I know people argue against this, but it you know, I'm not necessarily talking about money. Everybody has a price.  



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So, you know, let's let's be real. Yeah. Our mind's at least 17 shillings and sixpence if anybody's out there thinking about what it is.   Right.   It is. Oh, it's 2 guineas,   depending at the weekend. That's really what it is. Speaking of strange things going off in the media or interesting things in the media or sort of dovetailing,   that's third time I've used that word, back into that.   Mike Graham. Are you familiar with who Mike Graham is?   Have you heard of him?  

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Do you know him? Isn't he something to do with GB News or something? Am I thinking about that? Talk radio.   He he was Right. Right. Right. Yep. He was on Talk Radio.  

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Right? And,   he   he basically he put a tweet up.   No. Sorry. He put a Facebook   post up a few weeks ago which has got him removed from the station.   He said at the time,   my account was hacked.   Possibly this is true. I don't know. I don't really care one way or to the other.   He was then supposed to sort of work with them.   Anyway,   Julia Hartley Brewer,   who's so his show is 6AM or was 6AM to 10AM Monday to Friday. Mhmm. I don't know how you do that. I think he has to get up at 04:30 in the morning. His energy is amazing. And and of all the mainstream news things that you could listen to,   it's the one that's closest to this. It still means it's a long way off, but but he's in you can feel it in his intention. He's aware of what's going on.  

So it was a very lively show and very well followed and if it's the breakfast show it means it's the biggest show on the network. It's just that's how radio works. The biggest one is the is the breakfast show. 6AM to 10AM is a big hall.   Anyway, Julia Hartley Brewer, made an announcement either today I'm trying to look at the date on this recently, this week. Anyway, I'm just gonna play it to you. This is a minute and twenty four seconds because this shows you about the perils, as it were in a way of the mainstream media. This is what she had to say. Welcome back to the show. This is Talk. We are the home of common sense. It's two minutes past twelve. We are gonna go straight to P and Qs. Just a few moments. But as you will have heard in the news,  

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that   News UK, the parent company of this station, Talk, has made the following statement.   Their statement reads as follows, we were made aware of an abhorrent and vile post   on Mike Graham's social platform several weeks ago. Mike Graham said this was not posted by him, and he agreed to cooperate with a company investigation using an independent   forensic   firm. He later reneged on several opportunities to cooperate with the company investigation.   We have been gravely concerned at his repeated failure to cooperate on such a serious matter, and the decision has been made, has been taken that Mike Graham will not return to talk.   I'm afraid,   that is as much as I can say, on that matter. I know   that is going to cause a lot of upset and a lot of concern for a lot of our audience who've been with us for a very, very long time, but that is the official statement from the parent company of   Talk, and, and that is, that is where we are at,   in terms of Mike Graham, who will not be returning   to this station.  

Let me introduce you to my guest in the studio.  

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So there we go. He's gone. She's a nauseating little shit, isn't she? Sorry sorry to interrupt there, but she's one of the she is an absolutely establishment in the bloody core, that one. I can't stand that.  

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They're all under pressure.   Really, I suspect their private communications in the cafe are probably much closer to what we talk about than you could imagine. But you see, again, they've all got pensions hanging over their head and stuff like this. Now, Mike Mike Graham,   I actually because, we relay that show courtesy of WBN,   on Radio Soapbox. We've been doing that for a few months. We haven't been doing it for the last few weeks. We've been relaying whoever's been sitting in to that spot. I don't know who it is, but it it won't be as good.   Not that the person is not necessary, but it just won't be because he was prepared and often went up to the edge,   of things, you know, where where sort of   nimbly   going up to the edge of the precipice and looking into it and go, there's all the truth. I can't tell you the truth, but I can tell you what it looks like from a distance. It's that kind of thing. Anyway, what what's he's put out a little message, some sympathy for him. This doesn't mean I'm a complete 100% fan. There'll be things that I'll have said on the show that I would vehemently disagree with that you can say this about everybody. But at least he was pushing in the right   direction right direction about the restoration of this nation. That was a theme. You You know, you can feel it in the way that he's talking about things. The only person I'm aware of out there that was doing such a thing particularly on a major platform. So I think we can say, was the number one radio news breakfast show in The UK?  

I think it must have been.   He wouldn't have been given the slot otherwise.   The the best bit about the show was the calls in from the general public are extremely encouraging and this is what I would say is that this soft communications approach, you can feel it. People are being very careful with how they make their criticisms but you know what they're criticizing. I'm going back to that Enoch Powell clip as well. They're addressing this because it is the issue of the day. People are seeing it glaringly that the government are literally   behaving in a treasonous and treacherous way towards the British people, which they obviously are.  



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And, I think the policies they called it for what it is. Yeah. Sorry to interrupt with it.   I was gonna say this this is a massive thing, isn't it? Look. Our our own government reason. I mean, they are putting other people's   sorry. Other nations' people, other nations'   priorities before their own. That in and of itself is is treason, and it needs to be called out for what it is. They do not have the best interest of the people of this country, and that is their sole purpose. It's, you know, they're supposed to be public servants. They're supposed to serve the public,   and they're not they're not doing that. They're completely traitorous and treasonous. Yeah. They are. We're gonna get rid of this. They are. Okay.  



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It's not even a debate. It it's just an it's an observation that's true. Yeah. It's just an observation that's true.   And, you know, it's not that we're trying to sort of harm people. It's just that we prefer the truth, frankly.   And I think Mike Graham does as well. I've I've seen his post. I thought I had it up here, but I I was gonna read it. It's not very long. It's just a photograph. The gist of it was, look, I went outside this morning, and there are no English people here. That was the gist of it. Right? I just see all these people,   and I don't see my people around in the streets. Well, this is the and she what what was she told to describe it? She didn't write that. Right? That's an editorial thing that she was given the task of an answer. Script, isn't it? Of course. The script. She was given it to if it's almost the same. Even if the audio cue was a a script. So she yeah. Complete complete establishment.  

Anyway, sorry to interrupt again. No. No. You're not. No. It's it's all part of it. And I think,   so the idea of if we were to take,   what we do and what others do to the next stage,   we'd we would need a dig a much higher degree of organization,   promotion, marketing. Yes. Those dreaded things Mhmm. To get the word out. But we actually all you really need is one or two excellent voices of which you would have to say he is one within the,   the so you know, the the professional standards of of actual broadcasting as opposed   to wonderful anarchic punk broadcasting that we do here, which I love, of course. But he's very very good and, in that, he fits a certain slot. Of course, he's not going the whole way. You don't expect him to talk about the real heavy stuff. I don't. You'd be foolish to think that he would. But the idea of this is a part of the nudge unit, our nudge unit, nudging it back to where we want it to be nudged   to. Anyway, I understand he he's put a little sort of video comment thanking   everybody that's written to him. He's he's got a huge amount of support from his actual listener base, many of whom have said, I won't be listening to the station anymore because it's the only reason I tuned in was for you, this kind of stuff. So in other words, it's backfired on them. It's that that's that's brilliant. That I mean, that is positive in and of itself. It's backfired. Their their effects sorry. Their their attempts to control the outlet of information   has backfired because they got rid of one. Yeah. Interesting. Of course. It all depends who we think we're defining when we use they in reference to them because it's possible, is it not, that the heads of the station were called onto the carpet to get rid of him by something higher up the food chain. That's highly likely,   because they've got to guard certain things with regard to their advertisers. There's all this sort of other pressure that comes on them. We can't we're not we're gonna pull our advertising if you let that this is how newspapers have always been controlled. They've always been controlled   through the media purchases,   the people that buy the ad space in newspapers. This is how they used to control it in the twenties and thirties. You're not running that editorial. Otherwise, you're gonna lose the Colgate account. We're not gonna place any more advertising with you. And newspapers,   just like radio stations in in in mainstream media, can't survive without the income. They gotta pay their staff. I mean, producing the news is basically a lost leader. It's colossal amount of time gathering this stuff through. They've got legal departments that, you know, that have swollen in size because they're all guarding against one another,   getting sued, you know, by the Fockem Hall Sewers, of course, of the best best ones. That would be interesting, wouldn't it? Yeah. Anyway, he's set up his own he's set up his own YouTube channel. There's nothing there. It will probably become very popular. If I can find a way of porting it live into Radio Soapbox, I will do that. We will definitely sort of bring it onto a radio thing, but,   so we will see. He's gonna be like, is he our equivalent of Alex Jones   twenty five years after the fact? Possibly. I don't know, but it   I'm empathetic towards him.  

I am. I don't agree with everything he says, but you can see that when he puts posts up, if you see some of the sort of criticisms of his post, they are from the purple haired   blue   you know, blue dyed hair brigade. Gold brigade. Absolutely.   And,   and they get hammered by his loyal supporters, which is wonderful to see. This thing is basically, this communications   needs to be out in the open all the time. People will go home and find out that they didn't die, that they weren't talking to people that wanted to kill them. Yeah. That's actually   what the great strength of this is. If we it's a bit like if we keep our powder dry,   they're dying to goad people, I think, in this space into doing something incredibly stupid,   and we'll be sending their agents into this space to provoke that. As Eric has mentioned all the time, all these things get infiltrated,   but I think our detection of infiltrators is also very high because as they conduct all these exercises  

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us, they're actually tuning us up. We're getting sharper at it just naturally by hanging around the space you got. I I absolutely agree with that. Yeah? Yeah. I mean, which is a good again, this is this is a good thing. This is a step in the right direction in in more way, mate, if you look at it. Yeah. Well, yeah, they're doing our work for us in one respect Mhmm. Because they they, you know, it's the tricent effect, isn't it? They're basically creating the opposite effect of what they're going for because they're trying to control too much. They're trying to control the narrative. And what I found is the more you try and control somebody the more they're gonna rebel against you unless you've got something on them. If you've got something on them that's different. Yeah. Otherwise, they'll rebel against it. Nobody likes being controlled.  

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No. They don't. And the radio stations are controlled. They'll have their license removed.   Yep. You go you know, I'm not saying   that some of the people in the radio station,   are not in agreement with this. Some will be. But there will be chunks this is a large organization, news organization and they have interdepartmental   warfare.   They just do. You know, you have these editorials you see in films, don't you? It's absolutely true. I want to publish this story. You can't. I'm not letting you publish it. Big fight with the editor. I'll fire you. You know, this that and the other. This goes on because   individuals hit a point where they go the truth is actually more important than my future.  

Now, he's got such a following that he will be able to survive this,   you know. And it's it's really quite interesting that we've got this going on here in the radio world with him, who I think commands a much more respected audience than the BBC does. So he's   been ejected out in this space. The head of the BBC   or whoever's just left, they've been caught red handed lying   and manipulating the news on a much, much larger scale.   And they've been fight so it's both of these things. Both of them are good. They're both good things   for people who   are like us, who are seeking to nudge this back to a sane, honest, open, and frank communication about the issues that really are striking us as Enoch Powell was iterating forty odd years ago in that clip that I played. These things are key.  

I think people begin to understand the process. So for most of,   the sort of consumer's life,   they they have not been able to see the wood for the trees.   And now, people are standing back, going off, doing a bit of research, getting a broader panoramic view of what's going on and they're beginning to see the wood and they see that it's dark and that it's rotten. And it doesn't matter how much they know about the trees, don't go in there. It's a shithole. And this is what and this is, like, this is really I get quite excited about this because it's about understanding the context in which all this content comes to you. And once you get that the context is warped, you can dismiss the content because you begin to see it for the mind controls   claptrap that it is. And this is great. This is a really good thing. It is. It is. Well, by the way, Patrick would like to come on if that's okay. I just think I'll mention it. I'm not. No. Thank you, but I'm I'm not doing it. No. I'm I'm not adding any more in because we had we had such a hullabaloo. So I'm sorry to be like that. We'll do that another time, but, I've kept it like this on purpose. I I wanted to have a few of fewer voices in. I think it was the problem is it's not the problem.  

I got I I signed joy just   you and me on Tuesday, Eric. It sent off a lot of little mail bombs in my head, and I just thought, generally, we've had too many I've had too many voices around the microphone on the show. It's kinda just gone that way and it tends to not work as well as I think it could and I think tonight's worked better for me personally. I don't know what the audience thinks, but I'm just trying to keep the voices reduced. So don't take it personally Patrick but not not today. I'm not I I have brought Patrick, take it personally, I say. Yeah. I said take it personally, mate. I said take it personally. Just totally assault off. Totally assault off. So don't worry. Just little boots. Yeah. You know, we we I know what it is. Got size six feet, Patrick, so it's not all bad. Exactly. You know, it could be worse. You might not be able to stand up after two weeks' whiskies, which is what Nathan's doing. But, well, I mean, it's one. What is a big glass of whiskey? I'm probably gonna start slurring in a minute anyway.   Ignore me. Ignore me, people. I'm I'm just I'm full of crap. Anyway, you carry on. No. I I well, I was just I mean, this is sort of the last point I'd had down on this sort of little agenda to talk about, but I'm very encouraged by this. I mean, not that maybe many people they don't have never tuned into him and you're probably gonna find it rather sort of bland of bland fare in comparison to more intense sort of research com conversations that maybe you listen to and I'm glad you do and I listen to them as well. Well, not as much as I used to.  

But he's he's just a good voice and he's he's pushing in this direction. So it's a you know, when we use the word we, we've got a a wide variety of people involved in this. So all sorts of different levels of understanding and abilities. We just like any group of people, that's what you're gonna have.   But any sort of little step like this, which is actually not that little, is good. So I'm I'm hoping that his show thrives.   We'll see how YouTube treat him.  

[02:48:57] Unknown:

You know? I think I think again, he's probably gonna be the next Brand type figure. He's he's he's already got an existing audience, so they'll just transfer from one platform to another. I mean, who doesn't use YouTube these days? I'm not I'm not a fan of YouTube, but I'm not not a fan of YouTube if that makes sense. It does the job. The information's still accessible. I mean, there's so much content now that, you know,   take your pick. I mean, the one the one good thing that's come out of this is the more they try and censor us, the more people appear to be pushing back.   That and and that that's brilliant. There's all and and again, there's another way of looking at this. There's always gonna be a way   to find it. If people want it, they'll find it. The the information will get out. The truth the truth will get out eventually.  

And I think I think generally, mate, speaking about the the population in general, I think there's a lot of investigation going on. I think there's a lot of distrust   of the government. There's a lot of distrust in the media. People are starting to ask questions about things like digital ID, the technocratic infrastructure, you know, things like biometrics that that, you know, it's not going down too well. They need this   to further their agenda. They can't get any further without this digital ID. It stops there. So they need the immigration and they need the digital ID. Without those two things,   their agenda is stalled.  

So let's keep stalling it.  

[02:50:09] Unknown:

Yeah. You just we run as much interference as we're able to do without acting stupidly, giving them co as we can possibly do. I I somebody sent me a clip. I think, unfortunately, Ireland have got a new prime minister, some bint. And I call her a bint because she's part of the she just and I somebody said, I'm not playing the speech. It's just repellent nonsense. It's just childish guff talking about climate change and all these things. But as I was listening to her, I couldn't help but sort of smile thinking   the traction on that argument has gone.  

It's absolutely gone.   They still are talking as if they think that the audience is with them.   This is great. Can I keep on doing it? I want them to keep on doing this. It's fantastic. Yeah. Because it's it's it's reached a very gentle   sort of dismissal from a lot of people and that's very powerful. It's like, it's just a casual laugh and you just throw it away. It doesn't have any bite. It's like this word being a racist. That's going as well. It's absolutely gonna go. One of the things I mentioned the other Do you know who's created that? Do Do you know who's created racism?  

[02:51:11] Unknown:

Mhmm. The government.   Because they're the ones that have made a massive deal out of it, and now they've accused everyone of racism. Now it's a massive issue. I was never racist. I don't think you've ever been racist. I don't think, you know, most of the people in the chat are suspecting me. Racist, Nathan. Nathan, I am racist. No. No. Listen. Hear me out. Hear me out. Because it's a misunderstood thing. Right?  

[02:51:32] Unknown:

Every single individual on the face of the earth is a racist.   Every single one. It's completely normal. What does it mean? It doesn't mean anything. It's completely mad. The only group that can be accused of it in a negative way are white people. Right? But the actual true truth of it is you look at any group   using more psycho language is there are in group preferences.   That's what that's what it's called. It's completely   normal.   It's totally normal. You could call me a familyist. Yeah, I am. Family? I'm for my family. Against the gender again. I'm for my family, you see. Why? Because they're my closest,   warmest, dearest in group that I've got, that I'm ever gonna have, that I've ever had, that any individual usually has.  

And it's just an extension of that. It doesn't mean, although it's come to mean that, but this is getting broken down. It doesn't mean you sit around hating other people. No one's got the time or the energy for doing such nonsensical   fictional crap. I know there are a few goofballs that they wheeled out of sort of slobbering all over the place. It's like Yeah. They're all like that. No.   A a racist is just a it's a term that was coined by Lev Bronstein, that creditable individual better known as Trotsky, to demonize the Russians to get them locked up. Well, it's just a rerun of 1932.   They've just applied it here. Why? Because it's come through the Fabian Society and all that. So they they use the same playbook over and over and over and over again. And what's happened is a lot of people have caught onto it and they're going, nah. Forget it, mate. Yeah. So you go you're a racist. You're sorry. The point is what exactly? Sorry. I hope you want me to cry or something. Ridiculous.  



[02:53:09] Unknown:

No. I've I just it's just something else. Sorry. I'm I'm I'm deviating back to to the original,   like, the the topic of conversation. So you're you just mentioned the Fabian Society there Yep. Which, you know, Labour Party, Fabian Society, Tony Blair, and you've got Orwell on the front of your of your show's That's right. Graphics.   Yes. Well, Orwell, whose real name was Eric Blair Mhmm. Who wrote about a dystopian future,   who was under the the the tutorship or or or, you know, let's say the the guidance of, Aldous Huxley   from from the same establishment who was also spouting the same thing. Then we have things like, you know, Sigmund Freud's nephew.  

I forgot his bloody name now.   Who who, you know, basically,   thank you. Edward Bernays, who who used to, you know, explain how propaganda works and and and introduce that into the media and explain how that could manipulate people. All of this to me   is blatantly   linked.   You know? Okay. May maybe there's no maybe there's no relationship between Eric Blair and Tony Blair. Personally, I think there might be. I mean, it's a bit too much of a coincidence, but but I can't say that because I've not looked into it.   But but all of that to me   and, you know, linking it to the Fabian society, which links into communism, which links into,   you know,   very, very much in the making.  



[02:54:25] Unknown:

It's long in the making. One other one other wonderful little quirk, I'm glad you've mentioned this at the end,   is that 1984   is specifically that year because the Fabian Society was formed in 1884.   Which which links in what you were saying about that media, you know, the media article earlier in America. Yeah. But even the Fabian Society started off on a good footing. I probably. I'm just gonna guess that it did. It doesn't all these little groups that have got   that gain power, that have,   wealthy or highly intelligent individuals form them often start off with a good intent   and it's immediately come to the attention of the of the disruptive class and they get their placement in there and bend it away   from the key thing. Yeah. Masonry is the same. Masonry was this collection of stonemasons.  

We didn't trust in mason Terry because got bent away and that's what they do. They bend it away to another agenda because they've got powerful competent people. That's, you know, if you form a society, you're organized, you're competent, you can finance things, you can organize meetings. These things are skills which most people don't acquire in life. So they're immediately attracted to where there's a power center and then they immediately begin to corrupt it like an honorably elected democratic government or any of the institutions that we've set up. Every single one gets tunneled into and warped away and then we say, well, they're all bad. Well, they're not. It's a little bit more complex than that. But the overall design and purpose of these things now is to harm society at large. And most of the people in it, just like in the media and law and all these areas we've talked about tonight, are fearful of their own life. Starts with their livelihood. I don't think it's that. I I I don't even think it's that, mate. The reason they are now going hell bent for this agenda is, but I think, genuinely, they're fee they feel losing control. That's that's what they really don't wanna lose. All of these instances you just mentioned masonry there. And again, there's a lot of there's a lot of esoteric references that you can get from masonry, and it will it will it will broaden your outlook, broaden your perception, increase your understanding.  

[02:56:27] Unknown:

It's not all bad. But obviously, these things have come along and have been have been controlled from the inside out for people who want more money, more power, more control, they wanna elevate themselves in society. And the next thing, you know, it's been corrupted and controlled from an external source. I You know? I I agree. I I think there's all these threads. They're all present. I don't which is the main one. I don't really know. But I'm also of the view that the people that are behind all this would rather blow the world up and kill everyone  

[02:56:56] Unknown:

than lose control. In their worldview,   there is no future for the planet that does not include them as being in control of it. So any option that where they're not in control,   they will wreak as much havoc as they can. And it's a bit like don't corner a rabid dog in an alley. Don't. Make sure it's got an escape route of some sort. You we need a a higher occult force to step in and do this, but we've got to show that we're worthy of it. I mean, you know, I've gone slightly tenuous there, but something maybe that we can't possibly anticipate right now, I would appreciate greatly coming on the scene to sort of put these things  

[02:57:33] Unknown:

right, and to get us sorted out in that particular way, you know. So Could can I sorry? Just before the the show ends, can I just chip in there? Just meant an a, you know, an an occult force. People have got to get over this fear of the word occult. They've got to understand what it means. It's not what they think it is. It's not negative. It's not evil. It's just a word that refers to hidden information anyway. Just thought I'd chip in with that before the show ends. That's it. Well, I'm no doubt you'll be covering that a great deal up at your event up at A Lot. Seaton Terrace. Fantastic.  

[02:58:02] Unknown:

Eric and, Nathan's been fantastic having you tonight. I've really enjoyed the show. Have a nice day. Yes. Yep. Been a lot of fun. A lot of good stuff. Thank you. Shout out to everybody in Rumble and YouTube Chats for your valuable contributions. I've been gleaning them all. Absolutely. We've mentioned a few. If you wanna go to, Nathan's event, email him [email protected].   That's [email protected].   We'll be back again same time next week. Till then, have a jolly good time of it. Enjoy the lovely November weather. I'm told it's going to turn by a lady today who had a dog and was very serious with me. It's gonna be terrible, she said. And I told her to stop watching the TV as I mentioned earlier. Till then, keep great. Nice. We'll see you all same time next week. Bye for now, everybody. Bye bye.  

[02:58:47] Unknown:

Ta ta. Bye bye.