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Thursday September 18th · 8pm UK · 3pm US eastern

Ezra Pound, pound for pound one of the best pounders of the money power. Join us later today for some more bank bashing.

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A wide‑ranging live show tonight: we opened with on‑air gremlins and call‑ins, then dived into the inter‑war money story that rarely gets told. Using a circulating animated GDP chart (1928–42) as a jumping‑off point, we explored how Weimar collapse, reparations, and central‑bank policy set the stage for Germany’s rapid rebound after 1933 — and why credit creation, usury, and monetary sovereignty still matter. Along the way we touched on Hjalmar Schacht, Montagu Norman, the BIS, and why models like the state‑owned Bank of North Dakota are instructive. We also pulled historical threads through culture and media: Ezra Pound’s Canto XLV (“with usura”), Eustace Mullins’ Federal Reserve research, C. C. Veith’s Citadels of Chaos, and Archibald Maule Ramsay’s The Nameless War. We sampled period audio (Charlie and His Orchestra), recalled the Dick Barton theme, and referenced interviews like Oswald Mosley with David Frost and Yuri Bezmenov with G. Edward Griffin. Callers weighed in on censorship, propaganda, and group psychology, and we closed by flagging a new weekend format we’re planning to pilot.

• 'Canto XLV (With Usura)' — Ezra Pound, Poetry Foundation: https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/54319/canto-xlv
• 'Secrets of the Federal Reserve' — Eustace Mullins (book hub): https://openlibrary.org/books/OL3193422M/Secrets_of_the_Federal_Reserve
• 'Citadels of Chaos' — C. C. (Cornelius) Veith (full text, Internet Archive): https://archive.org/details/VeithCornelius-CitadelsOfChaos
• 'The Nameless War' — Archibald Maule Ramsay (Internet Archive edition): https://archive.org/details/01IntroJdnNamelessWarArchibaldRamsaySept2015
• Frederick Soddy — overview of 'Wealth, Virtual Wealth and Debt' (reference + access routes): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wealth%2C_Virtual_Wealth_and_Debt
• 'Red Symphony' (Rakovsky interrogation transcript, downloadable PDF): https://wikispooks.com/wiki/File:Red_Symphony.pdf
• Hjalmar Schacht — biography and roles (reference): https://www.britannica.com/biography/Hjalmar-Schacht
• Montagu Norman — Governor of the Bank of England (reference): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Montagu_Norman%2C_1st_Baron_Norman
• Bank for International Settlements — official site: https://www.bis.org/
• Bank of North Dakota — official site (state‑owned bank model): https://bnd.nd.gov/
• Yuri Bezmenov with G. Edward Griffin — full interview (MRCTV mirror): https://www.mrctv.org/videos/yuri-bezmenov-deception-was-my-job-complete
• Oswald Mosley interviewed by David Frost (The Frost Programme, 15 Nov 1967) — Dailymotion: https://www.dailymotion.com/video/xs8lpu
• Godfrey Bloom — 'The State is an Institution of Theft' (speech collection page): https://godfreybloom.uk/videos/
• Liz Truss on Bannon’s War Room (clip incl. Bank of England remarks): https://rumble.com/v4ex24l-liz-truss-no-minister-wants-to-admit-that-they-cant-actually-do-things.html
• Charlie and His Orchestra — background (reference): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlie_and_his_Orchestra
• 'Devil’s Galop' (Dick Barton theme) — background (reference): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devil%27s_Galop
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[00:00:06] Unknown:

Hi, everyone. Welcome back. It's Thursday again. Thursday again? Yeah. Again. How does that happen? So fast. It was Thursday just a few minutes ago, wasn't it? It's the September 18.   The very last Thursday officially of spring.   Not spring.   Summer, you know, summer 02/2025.   02/2025.   And, anyway, good to be with you. We're here. We're gonna have a we're gonna have a rollicking good show tonight. We hope. Fingers crossed. Words   mouths working.   Welcome to the show.   I wonder what color pill tonight's show will be. Would it be a red pill? Will it be a blue pill? Maybe it's gonna be a cheeky and cheery white pill or a black pill or maybe a combination of all four.   None of us really know. You  

[00:01:25] Unknown:

know.  

[00:02:00] Unknown:

Oh, I got all carried away there. Forgot to talk. Hi. Welcome back everyone.   Fingers crossed all systems go here at this end. Things are looking okay, I believe. I'll check everything. Shout out to everybody on WBN three two four. We're back again here on Thursday for a couple of hours with you and to everybody on Rumble and in YouTube chats. Good evening guys and gals.   Welcome to the show.   We're also going out over   Radio Soapbox, Euro Folk Radio, Global Voice Network, Holy Land Radio.   It's just a radio tarts paradise around here. We're trying to go out as many platforms as we can and the Fockem Hall Community Radio Network, of course, we're going out over that as well,   with all those chaps and chapesses in there.  

Anyway, without further ado, let me introduce the emissary from Fockem Hall, Eric von Essex. Eric, good afternoon, good evening, good morning, and all that. Greetings. How are you this fine British evening? How are you doing? I mustn't grumble,  

[00:02:55] Unknown:

and, I was just thinking Ezra pound a penny for his thoughts.   So,  

[00:03:01] Unknown:

Very witty. Sorry.   Is that it?  

[00:03:05] Unknown:

Yeah. I'd I'd   be boring after that, but no. Actually, he was, Eustace Mullins.   Was it protege? Is that correct correct word? I don't know. But he actually started Eustace Eustace Mullins on the road   to writing secrets of the Federal Reserve and things like that because Eustace Mullins visited him in prison, apparently.  

[00:03:26] Unknown:

He did. Just to let you know, your mic's a little quiet. I don't know if you've had one of those Okay. Those little readjusting things. I've had to crank you up to 10,000 on the thing, and you're still a little bit faint. One moment. One moment. I'll just sort a little bastard out. I'm sorry about this. This happens every week. That's alright. Is this correct terms for referring to a recalcitrant microphone? That little bastard. Sorry about that. I know it's middle of the afternoon. It is a family show, but we swear Sorry about that. Oh, terribly sorry. How is that a little bit better? Oh, you're blowing my head off now. Hang on. Let's get you back down to a 100. Yeah. I think you're gonna be okay now. You know, say a few lovely delightful words. Better? Yes. Yes. That's fine. I think this microphone is now working, and I've actually pointed it to the I've pointed the little bin to it and I've said  

[00:04:07] Unknown:

if it does anything wrong again it's in that bin it will go so there we go so that's but bucks its ideas up   so I'll give it a stiff talking too cool Brilliant. Fantastic.   That's great. That's right. Yes. Sorry about that. It's got a mind of its own. It it adjusts it  

[00:04:25] Unknown:

Oh, it does.   That's how fantastically   I'll tell you how adjustable that is. You just completely disappeared and went off air for about four seconds then. That's how brilliant it was. Really? Yeah. Yeah. Oh.  

[00:04:38] Unknown:

It's probably because I mentioned a bit something a bit smutty, so that's probably the reason why. An auto sensor.  

[00:04:44] Unknown:

No. You're there now. You're there now. West Maybe you were bending down to tie your shoelaces and you moved your mouth the way through. I don't know what went on, but, yeah, you just completely disappeared. And anyway, I've got my fingers crossed. If you tuned in last week,   you may recall not that you would. I mean, why would you remember such a tedious thing? But I remember it. It impacted on me emotionally for the whole week. I've only just recovered,   that I had a complete sort of power loop   blip on the system here with about half an hour to go last week. We managed to recover everything. Quick shout out and thanks to Paul, who'll probably be joining us at some point during the show. He's lurking right now.   But,   Paul managed to record all the show independently, so I managed to be able to cobble together the podcast, which was good because my recording was just completely mangled. Didn't have any electricity. You can do as many backups as you like, but you haven't got any power. Nothing works at all. I think that's a case in point for all of these, you know, all the best laid plans of this that and the other. So I'm trying to stay very still. Maybe I got a bit giddy and excited last week, moved around a bit too much. You know what it's like? Human energy, blipped all the internal circuit boards and something went completely   skew whiff. Anyway, famous last words. I'm not trying to invoke the devil tree, the, the gremlins as it were. They were a World War two thing, weren't they? The gremlins? Is that where they Yes. Gremlins. Yes. Yep. Gremlins. And, what was the other other one? Foo Fighters. That was another one that came out during the war too. So the Foo Fighters were external things, weren't they? These were lights that were currently zooming out, but the gremlins were little creatures that apparently got inside the engines and things like this. They were little wicked spirits   called the gremlins. Lovely word for them. I wonder if it's a I wonder if they made that up or whether it's an older word. I quite like it.  

I don't know. Where did it come from? Fascinating.   Anyway, yeah. So, yeah. We don't want any gremlins tonight and, we're gonna,   keep them out of harm's way or out of our way hopefully. So that's, okay. Let me just check a few couple of things here. Shout out to everybody in Rumble. Anyway, hi, Kingston Whitler. Hi Billy   Silver. Hi   Warren App Arthur 5032579AD.   It's a bit of a it's a bit of a mouthful that Warren. Can I just call you Warren from now on? I think we're gonna have to do that. Somebody in there called Eric Von Essick, who he   and,   Seamast. Is it Seamast?  

Seamast. Scoomast.   Sorry.   Eyesight. Oh, I'm Woody Peak. Hi. Hi, everybody. So, welcome onto the show, and all that kind of stuff. Yes.   I've been thinking a bit, Eric, last few days. For some reason, every now and again, I want to talk about,   well, really about all this period of, of monetary amazingness. And actually, you and I,   I think it was, let me just check it. Was it Billy Pitt? I think it was.   Sent a graphic in   onto the, onto the Telegram group. Yeah? Do you see that?  

[00:07:38] Unknown:

Oh, it was brilliant.   Absolutely  

[00:07:41] Unknown:

brilliant. It is. It's a brilliant graphic. Yeah. It's very, very good. Yeah. Are these things that condense masses of information   into a very, yeah. Billy Peart. Hi. Thanks, Billy,   for this. This was sent into the Telegram group. I've got it here. There's nothing   to there's nothing really to listen to. I'm just gonna try and describe the graphic to you because it's a bit   it's just an amazing graphic. What it's showing you is 90 it's it's going through the years,   so we can read it out. I don't have an image for it, but we might bolt one on somewhere else. You really need to see this little video. It's only about forty seconds long.   What it is is a moving chart   of the,   GDP   of a whole clutch of nations from about 1928   through to 1942.  

And so on the original on the list as it starts up, Germany, of course, is labeled as the Weimar Republic, which is what it was in the twenties. This is the dung hole that Germany was in the process of becoming. You could easily say that, we are going through our own Weimar period, although it's not as bad as they went through, but but the the the similarities   about it, it's a little bit more subtle, but it's, the purpose is still the same, which is to chew up and drive down and destroy basically the substance of the nation through porn and usury and all the usual   stuff that we often talk about here.  

And when the start when the chart starts off, just to let you know, just to give you a sort of rundown, it's like, hey, top 10 stranded at that the wad bait. It's, The USA with 85,000,000,085   billion dollars in GDP 1929.   Great. Well done, you Americans.   I guess that's before Wall Street or maybe Wall Street Wall Street must bomb through this at some point, but that's going on. So USA in a league of its own. Okay? I don't know what the population was back then. It's about a 140,000,000,   is it? Something like that. This is 1929,   so any Americans that know, you know, correct us as we go. I don't have a population chart. But they've got a GDP of about 85,000,000,000.  

Russia's next, which is hilarious, really, in a way, because it's propped up by just sucking money out of America and Britain because they paid for it at 28,000,000,000.   The Weimar Republic was third but is is sinking fast already. It's at 22. The UK   or in Britain was at 20. So the Weimar and then it starts to nosedive in 1931, you know, with the Great Rush,   and it stays on the charts as Weimar until 1933.   And as soon as it switches over, and of course this is with the arrival of,   Mr Hitler as the Chancellor and a change in the structuring of the nation,   Germany, now on the charts labelled as Nazi Germany, I hope saying the word Nazi doesn't upset too many of you too much,   jumps up to third in the chart. So America by now has ploughed on to 67,000,000,000.  

This is 1933.   Oh, hang on just a minute. I've got a little problem. Let me just check. There's always something, isn't there? Let me just go and check this.   Oh, I know what it is.   Sorry. Yeah. We're not out on soapbox. Sorry about that everyone. I understand why.   We'll get there in a second.   Here we go. But,  

[00:10:45] Unknown:

I think we'll repaste that onto Telegram because that was brilliant. I did it on my Telegram channel as well. Yeah. And what an absolute incredible shot that was. I I actually played it about half a dozen times. I liked it so much. You just sit there. You just see the it's fantastic.  

[00:11:02] Unknown:

It tells you a story within what a minute if that Yeah. I I mean, this is this is when all this data comes to,   comes to bear. Sorry about sorry, Soapbox people. We didn't have a we didn't have a feed there for you for about ten minutes. I understand there was a little blip here on the system. There's, too many buttons here. I've got too many buttons and not enough fingers.   So my apologies for that, but we'll be here for the rest of the of the usual.   When I I got to? It's worth just going through these years. This might sound a little tedious. It's nineteen thirty nineteen thirty three. We just got to 1933.   We've just got to 1933.  

So the Way out in front. Yeah. The the top 10 now, after a few years is America's still strayed at the Bawad.   The USSR is up to 46,000,000,000,   but Nazi Germany has jumped up from previous   in Weimar, it was down to about   15,000,000,000.   It's almost doubled in a matter of months. It's up to 32,000,000,000.   China's fourth. Yeah. The UK is lagging behind in fifth place. No medal winning positions there for The UK at 20,000,000,000 followed by the frogs sorry, the French people. The British Raj has got his category all unto itself. This is where the, empire was plundering India. There's no other way to express it. Then Italy, Japan, Argentina, Canada's on there at just under $5,000,000,000.   This is 1933   values followed by The Netherlands and   Australiamide.  

Anyway, so now we go to 1934 and Germany's creeping up. It's coming up. It's like a horse race. There's web to 56 and bang it's in second place in the chart. By 1936,   right?   Early nineteen thirty six, we've now had a change in the order. It now runs America,   Germany at 66,000,000,000.   So America's at 87,   Germany is now up to 66,000,000,000.   It's doubled its GDP in under three years.   Just think about it. We're gonna talk in this show about why. Many of you will know why, but it's worth doing an exposition on this again. The primary driver for this because Three years. Yeah. Now we're at 1937.   Okay. Next year, following year. Still the same order, but it's getting very close because Germany's coming up fast on the rail. So we've got America at 87,000,000,000.  

Germany now, remember their population is about I think half that of America at the time. There's something on the   I think it's something like that. About 80,000,000 in Germany at the time, a 160,000,000   or something in America.   So The USA now 87,000,000,000. It's exciting this, isn't it? You radio people, it's like listen to a horse race on the radio. 87,000,000,000,   Germany 83,000,000,000.   Only a mere 4,000,000,000 off. So whisker away. The UK has managed to get past the Chinese. Harafaros were up to 24,000,000,000   and Russia is in third at 69. Let's run it through. He's only fifteen seconds left to go on this thing. Bang. 1938   and Germany takes the lead.  

1938. So a mere five years,   a mere five years since the Chancellor was appointed   and the restructuring of the economy and now the figures are that Germany's GDP   is 90,000,000,000   and The USA is 87. This is 1938.   Let's run it forward to 1939.   1939.   Oh, Germany is pulling ahead. Now Germany's at a 103,000,000,000   with The USA at 96, Russia still in third, and The UK fourth. And we're very near the end. We just got this is 1939   with the loomingness   of the whole war. 1940,   Germany's still in front, 117,000,000,000   to 108,000,000,000,   and we get through to 41.  

What are we looking at now?   We've got a 132,000,000,000   for Germany,   a 129,000,000,000   for The USA and then, of course,   it all starts to kick in from 1942. And the final figures we have in 1942,   maybe this is early on in 1942,   Germany is running a 161,000,000,000   GDP,   The USA a 159   by 1942.   And, of course, as many people know from now on, economically, it's an absolute,   you know, dive into the pit,   for most of these nations, actually, because the,   the tooling up and the complete destruction of value that took place during World War two,   now kicks off in earnest, particularly as Germany, of course, have locked horns with German, with Russia for a little while by now. So that's it. So anyway, the final running order, top 10 was, Germany in first place with a 161,000,000,000,   America in second place with a 159,   Russia in third with 86, and The UK in fourth with 35. It's quite a jump off between those top two and even Russia and The UK. I'm not gonna go through the whole list,   but fantastic chart. And Billy, if you hear me this, just great. I know I see these things all the time, but it was a fantastic chart.  

So,   if you want to see it, go over to join the Telegram group,   with the link you'll find at Paul English Live. Just go and join it. Been fizzing in there recently. Some great stuff. So  

[00:16:01] Unknown:

yeah. It really is something. And and also,   the, Germany had beautiful cruise ships that ordinary workers could go on cruises   on their holidays   because mister h introduced   holidays   for workers. Mhmm. And those cruise ship, those beautiful luxury liners were not allowed to dock anywhere in Great Britain   because they were terrified   of the dock workers seeing how much luxury the ordinary working person had. Yep. And they'd be in trouble. So they were not allowed into to dock in Britain.   So there we go. Yep. So, that shows you how marvelous this country is  

[00:16:44] Unknown:

not. Well, it shows you something else. I'm gonna read a oh,   why have we got Ezra Pound as the image of today?   I've we talk I've talked about we bring mister Pound in quite a bit,   And, even I've got his picture, A, because it's a great picture. I don't know where that was taken. I think it's after his release from the lunatic asylum, which they forcibly put him into.   Yeah. So I don't know where that was. Isn't it? Yeah. I think he went I mean, he was he was very much in love with Italy. He made his wartime broadcasts from there, which is what   basically caused them to say that he was certifiably insane. He was actually one of the few very few sane people in the whole world at the time. Everybody else was just completely gaga with war.  

Pound wrote a series and broadcast a whole series of radio shows or radio programs   from Italy at the time in support of,   the defense of Europe from   godless communism, broadly speaking,   which is unfortunately, if you're new to all this game, I'm sad to inform you that Britain basically fought for the extension of communism.   How do we know this? Because that's by their fruits shall ye know them. That's what's happened. Okay.   So every everything and and I've got some tremendous clip. I've got a fantastic little clip from Oswald Mosley coming up in a second or two hopefully when we can get round to it. Really incredible stuff.  

[00:18:05] Unknown:

He he was he was actually full on in I'm sorry, sir. I didn't mean to chime in, but Oswald Mosley was actually at his peak, I think, in the nineteen thirties.   And he just went downhill after that. Oh, alright. He's put in prison during World War two. But I saw him on the David Frost interview   where he was tamed to the cleaners, basically.   And you can see that on YouTube. But in the thirties,   he was spot on. And what he was saying then   is as relevant   now as it was then.  

[00:18:34] Unknown:

So so Well, the reason, I guess, Eric, why he would have been tanked to the cleaners,   a bit like certain conversations now if you were to enter into them would result in a similar sort of outcome,   is because the mood of the country was not   how would they possibly be ready for it? It was a mere twenty years after the end of the war.   Right?   Mosley was a vilified figure.   I have I don't know a great deal about him, but I do know when you look at his speech and he was kind of for a European Union, but of a different type to the one that we've got. This is the This is my very simplistic understanding at this stage. I'm not informed on Mosley. So if anybody is and wants to chime in or whatever, please do.   And,   you know, just put us right, put us straight on this. But he was talking about a union of really of independent nations, which is fine by me. I don't have a problem with that at all.  

Of course, these plans always morph into a central control hub, which we now have,   and draws all the power into the central hub where they can conduct their regime of lying and deceit and crowd hypnotism   more fully   all the way through, can't they?   Listen, I'll I'll tell you what, I might as well play this now. Let's let's play. This is a clip simply because we've got on to it. Right? This is Oswald Mosley,   talking to   let's make sure I don't play the wrong one.   This is he's on David Frost. This is a clip. It's only about a minute,   and I'd never heard this bit before.  

This is when would this be, Eric? This is sort of mid sixties. Is it about '65, '66, is it? Really? I don't know. I think it is.   I think it is. It might be a bit earlier than that, but Frost was making his name. Anyway, this is just   this is to do with the thread that we're talking about tonight. Here we go. Nineteen thirty nine to forty five   Let's just start at the beginning. Would would be a little bit more  

[00:20:29] Unknown:

here we go. Who was most of all responsible for the nineteen thirty nine to forty five war? I'll tell you exactly.  

[00:20:36] Unknown:

Hitler began it by driving east, and he would undoubtedly have destroyed communist Russia in so doing.   We intervened and declared war to prevent him doing it, and the result is that Britain today   is tossed to and fro between America   and Russia. We've lost the empire. We've lost our position, and we had 25,000,000   Europeans killed. And I'm prouder than anything in my life of having done my utmost to stop that suicidal war which has destroyed Great Britain. So you said those incredible words in 1939 Tell me what they were. Where you said that this was simply  

[00:21:12] Unknown:

a Jewish   financiers quarrel.  

[00:21:16] Unknown:

Oh, I don't know how that got in there.   Good grief.  

[00:21:22] Unknown:

Well, slap my thigh.  

[00:21:25] Unknown:

Well, I've never heard anything like it in my life. I'm astonished and shocked and bemused and puzzled. My molecule dropped my molecule dropped out in in in my ginger beer, you know. That's how it's shocking, isn't it? Strong, isn't it? Yes.  

[00:21:37] Unknown:

Yes.   Blimey.   Lip puff.  

[00:21:46] Unknown:

Oh, gosh. I'll tell you what, baby. We need to sell Fockham Hall monocles as well. We need  

[00:21:51] Unknown:

Fockham Hall monocles. That's a good one. Yes. Why not?  

[00:21:55] Unknown:

Yeah. That doesn't that doesn't make any sense. What doesn't make any sense? It doesn't make any sense.   Yeah? I Well I the a a Jewish war.   It it doesn't make any sense because then that would mean   that the the sharp nose dive that Germany   had in their,   GDP   was due to attacks by   the Jews,   by the Zionists?  

[00:22:23] Unknown:

Which period are you talking about? What which period are you talking about?  

[00:22:28] Unknown:

They immediately   prior to World War two, of course.  

[00:22:32] Unknown:

Oh. Oh, you mean the improvement that they had in their economy?   Is that what you're talking about? I'm a bit puzzled. Sorry. I I'm not I'm being a bit thick. The improvement.  

[00:22:40] Unknown:

No. The improvement that Germany had in their economy   Yes. Has absolutely ruffled the feathers of the globalists because, you know, you've got The United States, of course, which is this this brave new world of of prosperity and freedom and everything else. Mhmm. And, Germany is is out ahead. This little gimpy country with, like, half the population of is,   is for many years running,   outperforming   The US?  

[00:23:08] Unknown:

Well, they can't have that.  

[00:23:10] Unknown:

Well, good lord.  

[00:23:12] Unknown:

Well, I think I think it's the causative reason. I've got a couple of quotes here, which are just appropriately timed to be dropped in right now. Okay? Just right now, given your comment as well.   So this is one from mister Hitler,   in 1937   from a book,   Citadels of Chaos   by CC Veith,   which was published in 1949.   I don't have a copy, but I've been looking for one. There must be a PDF of it floating around. It's just always worth   having these things, you know, in your library if you're into this sort of stuff. And seeing as though I think this is amongst the most important things that people can still devote their attention to, I need a copy. But he he said this,   we were not foolish enough, this is mister Hitler speaking,   we were not foolish enough to try to make a currency coverage   of gold of which we had none.  

But for every mark that was issued, we required the equivalent of a mark's worth of work done   or goods produced.   We laugh.   We laugh at the time   our national financiers   held the view   that the value of a currency is regulated by the gold, and securities   lying in the vaults of a state bank.   Okay. That was from this book published in 1949.   Now there's an American chap called William Galey Simpson,   who wrote a book wrote a few books, but one of them is called Which Way Western Man, which   people should make a note of. It's quite a large book,   but it's,   it's it would be it very much fit in here, not only just with the theme of this show, but with what we talk about on and off   over the past couple of years and before that. Here's a quote from Simpson,   because he's now in reference to this comment of Hitler's.  

And it proved sound,   he writes. It worked.   In less than ten years, as we've just been reading out there with that chart,   Germany became easily the most powerful state in Europe.   It worked so magically and magnificently   that it sounded the death knell of the entire Zionist Jewish money system.   World Jewry knew that they had to destroy Hitler's system by whatever means might prove necessary,   or their own system of usury would necessarily die.   And if it died, with it must die their dream and their hope of making themselves masters of the world.   The primary issue over which World War two was fought was to determine which money system was to survive.  

At bottom, it was not a war between Germany and the so called allies.   Primarily, it was war to the death between Germany and the international money power.   William Gailey Simpson, Which Way Western Man, page 642.   I've held this view for many years in very simple terms. I've seen lots of countervailing   criticisms and comments about this. I mean the main one is,   that in the early days,   as Dennis Wise discovered as well,   much to the chagrin of, Samuel Untermyer,   Jewish financier firms on Wall Street were investing heavily in Germany,   1932,   1933 when they knew he was gonna get in, simply because it was a basically a sleeping giant of productivity,   was Germany. But   once they actually broke completely with the system and started to use barter   and to issue their own credit notes effectively, government bonds which were passed around to buy goods and services,   That's the reason why   their GDP   just went through the roof.  

And guess what everybody? Every other nations in the in the world today, it would do exactly the same thing,   exactly the same thing if it were to be employed right now.   But the great barrier to this is the mass,   unawareness of it, or what words were you? Stupidity with regards to it. The willful ignorance of it. The being scared of looking intuitness,   all of these things. I don't know what you think, Eric, but there you have, you know, this is we've talked about Germany and we've talked about Libya more recently as being two countries   that got utterly destroyed in many ways   for simply doing the right thing. And instead of making money, they made money honest again.  

You know, it's not about making money.   Everybody's oriented out. They're all businesses go, what are you in business for? To make money. But I'm not in business to do that. My business,   philosophically,   whatever you wanna say, is to make money honest again   because that's what that's what Germany did, and look what happened.  

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But the Nobody want a bit of that. Talk about well, yeah, but when you talk about the finances of Germany,   we flip   it's an automatic flip over to, oh, dear, but the Nazis did this, the Nazis did that. No. We're talking about finance. We're not talking about anything else. Terrible things happen in wars.   Lots of innocent people get killed.   Lots of terrible things happen. And, of course, wars are psychopaths' playgrounds.   But we're talking about the finances. We're not really talking about anything else, you know, that the terrible things that happened during the war on both sides.   It's just the finances. And this is the thing that they do. It's like a spring ball to get people away   from the fact that we're talking about something   that's to do with finances.  

And all they say, oh, it's a naughty and arse. Let's put that aside for a moment. Let's just look at the finance.   And it's strange. He was talking about Ezra Pound. Now Ezra Pound   lived most of his life in Italy. And he was in Italy during World War. And he was,   arrested. I'm just looking this up,   on and I've lost it.   On   here it is. On the,   Internet.   And   he was captured,   by the where was it now?   Italian resistance   Mhmm.   Who   and handed over to the US counterintelligence   corps who held him pending extradition   and prosecution based on   an indictment for treason.  

He spent months in a US military detention camp near Pisa Pisa   Mhmm. Including three weeks in an outdoor steel cage.   Yep. Eight out yeah. Ruled mentally unfit. I think anybody would be ruled mentally unfit after sit sitting for three weeks in a bleeding cage,   to stand trial.   Pound was incarcerated   for over twelve years in Elizabeth's   Hospital in Washington, DC.   And there's a lot more in between, but cutting it to the chase, he was released in 1958,   and he went to back to Italy   where he remained until his death in 1972.   And he was born in 1885.  

Now He did. Yeah. Isn't that strange that he was committed to a mental asylum, which is usually done when they don't want the person to stay on trial and start speaking truth?  

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Well, it's, it was a big tactic in Bolshevik Russia.   It was to commit people to lunatic asylum   to shut them up. Yeah.  

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Yeah.   That's it.  

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It really was. And that's that's key. I mean, they did they locked him up for this. They locked him up because not only was he articulate,   but everything he said is accurate and true. You know, he's the guy that did the recording. He wrote that poem Usura   about the fact that with the presence of usury, no man has a house of good fit stone. It's very poetic. It's brilliant,   and it's worth sort of consuming repeatedly   over the years because you'll hear it differently every time you do. But he's basically saying everything is chewed up by it. Everything.   And is not the economic record of Germany without it a spectacular   a spectacular demonstration of that?  

I mean, it's just it's off it's   ridiculous. And so,   everybody I I just think everybody should be hungering for this, but it's understandable that nobody even knows in real term, not in any substantial minority yet,   that it actually exists, that this is what it's all about.  

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I mean, you know, why did they make Hitler Time's Man of the Year? I don't know what year it was. It's '38? I think it was '38 or '37. It was nineteen nineteen thirty nineteen thirty eight. Yeah. But what gets me is you mentioned about and I often do this. I speak I say to people, usually, they have the foggiest, foggiest idea what you're talking about.   Not an idea. And I mean, as I said before, I tried that on that, chat who runs a stall. Tried to explain newsery to him, and he ended up thinking I was a sort of a a weird lefty.   Because I mentioned one word that he hung on and then swung around that word   because I said, oh, People's Bank. I shouldn't have mentioned it. Because, oh, that's communist. Oh, I'm and he starts going off at this tangent that you would never believe.  



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And that's the problem. What it is that that's really I mean, it's the problem. Eric, it's so much the problem.   And and and the big   internal fight is, is this a waste of time   to try and overcome it? Is it possible? I mean, I'm getting sort of black pilled about all this thinking,   really? You know, what's the adage? You can you'll know this one. You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink. Can't make You can lead an asshole to the truth,   but if he's not interested in it, he's gonna remain an asshole, or she is.   And it's not that these are bad people. They're good people as well, you know, in in all other areas of the life. But for because of one   decision, actually it's more than one, because of a conditioning process that's brought them to a place where they daren't   ask questions. This is the they dare not ask questions in certain areas.  

It's never occurred to them, like I suggest it probably has to us and to most of the listeners here,   that those areas that you are told not to discuss and not to question are absolutely the ones that you must put all your energy into.   Correct. Who's to tell they're absolutely the ones. Yeah. You must talk about race. You must talk about banking. You must talk about politics.   They're they're the only things you need to talk because they're the things that are damaging your life   twenty four seven because you don't.   And,   they've made all these areas of course intentionally boring and tedious and full of blowhards   and all sorts of intellectual offshoots that are poured out of universities who just bore the pants off everybody   and are just a big sort of disguise system for never getting down to the basic truth which is that the emperor has got no clothes. Where's the little lad? That's the role that we're supposed to play. Hey, look. He's lying out of his backside again.  

Oh, don't say that. That's it's that group dynamic. I mean, I  

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But what they what they've done   Mhmm. Social engineers   have got people   so I mean, if if you look on, YouTube   and look up, Yuri Bezbanov,   he did series of talks   in the early eighties.   Yeah. He spoke to g Edward Griffin, which was an excellent conversation.   And he's talking about,   oh,   ideological subversion.   Now the thing is, what he said is you,   demoralize people.   You demoralize them so they're down to their lowest. Yes. Then they'll be   waiting for hope. And a perfect example for that, and a group of people have got on the bandwagon,   was Tommy's circus   last Saturday.  

And it was a circus complete with clowns,   complete with axe.   What   bloody difference has that made?   People said, oh, the prime minister. He's he's he's not in London. He's always   always he's very worried.   Bullshit.   That was all a waste of time.   Why?   Because it was leading people onto a misdirection.   And it was,   to me,   it was for a country that we're not allowed to criticize.   It was a PR exercise. That's all it was for for a country we're not allowed to exercise to, criticize.  

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These things are always best viewed a few days after they've happened. I made a big error last week, actually, in in being far too clear in my own mind about the Charlie Kirk situation, and I'm just leaving it. So my apologies for that. I have a rule, which I broke last week, which is that I am supposed to wait at least three days before I start talking about any of these things that go on   because I get my attention gets hijacked as well. I'm I'm at least I'm aware of that. I can stand back and go, you idiot. Right? I think we we've got a problem, Eric, with a lot of people are not willing to admit  

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that they've been due. It it's a massive thing. It it really is. It's a massive They're hoping they're looking for hope. Yeah. They they are desperate for hope. Can you blame them? And I put the analogy that in,   in the on the,   Telegram channel, it's like someone   dying of thirst in the desert,   and they actually do anything to get rid of that thirst,   and they'll drink anything   even if it's toxic.   And that's exactly what's happening to that lot that were marching in London. They're desperate for hope, and they'll grasp anything   that looks like hope. Anything at all. But the real thing, which is real hope,   which is the,   eradication of usury and rounding up the usurers   and putting them on trial.  

Oh, no. I don't wanna know about that. But to watch down the road and see,   you know, people dressed as clowns and and and and farting around in London Yep. It's not gonna cause any difference at all. Sorry. I I I it's a family show.   Oh, they go on that because it's in your face. It's simple, isn't it? Come and join like minded people. And of course, you had the globe. What does they call it now?   There's a spiritual awakening.   Okay?   That was started   after World War one, that feeling   by the secret services.   Once people are saying, do you notice people's spirits are rising? And when there's a spiritual awakening,   That,   again, is what they're saying, and it'll do exactly the same as what happened after World War one as now. Square root of sodal.  

That's it. Basically.  

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Yeah. It will.   It will. It it's   the thing is that you're inviting people into an unpleasant process,   and that's why they don't come.   Yeah. It it's not all we're all gonna get together and love one another, because if we were, that would have happened a long time ago. We've been around a bit. We've had a lot of technology. There's been a lot of communication going on since radio rocked up. Right? Tons of it.   It there's something much more fundamental. I've got a little quote here from the matrix, which I never quote because everybody quotes from the matrix, but it's so appropriate.   I just glanced this today, my big sort of file of thingages.  

Thing images, thingages? What's a new word? Thingages?  

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Sure. Thingages.  

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I've got some thingages in my   in my folder,   and,   this is Morpheus   Morpheus saying,   you have to understand   most of these people are not ready to be unplugged.   And many of them are so inured,   so hopelessly dependent on the system   that they will fight to protect it, and they will fight this is this is this issue where the people that that really would benefit the most are the ones that are most terrified of the change or anxious of it. And therefore, anybody that comes along and that's sort of putting a ripple in the water,   troublemaker, they're then rabble rousings of viewing it as troublemakers. You get division of the crowd, you get and then you've created a divided people and then you just get them to beat crap out of one another.  

And we can't, you know, no one can sit down long enough to even comprehend a sentence with this stuff in it. They're out. You You know, we've talked about this before. You start talking about this stuff to most people who have not even sort of even crept into it. Once people get a taste for it for want of a better word or they have a little bell go off, they go, surely,   there's gotta be more than just he had a mustache and shouted a lot. Yeah.   There is. This is not about   forgiving everybody for there were bad things happening on all sides, but fundamentally,   my stance is this, who was the least worst   and by such a degree that their de facto   in in history books would be the good guys. Particularly, if they'd won, they would have written it that way and rightly so.  

Okay?   Because Oh, you're a traitor to your own country. Far from it. It's the complete opposite.   Absolutely completely   Everybody should be loyal to their nations. It's unfortunate,   soft word,   that we're governed by people that literally are taking advantage of all the good people that have done this for centuries   and abuse them psychologically   to make and use the very things that they love to stir them up into a passion to fight other people   and then get nothing for it and then pretend back to themselves that they did get something for it. Because the lie is so strong, it so unhinges your entire sort of myth of who you are that people people go bonkers over it.   Don't they? Yeah.  



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They do. Well, that well, that's right. And I think that we've got lies upon lies upon lies. And as I said earlier, terrible things happen in wars   and I'm always on the side of the innocent person regardless of who they are. Mhmm. Because it's always the innocent   and the ordinary people that get harmed by wars.   And when a war ends, it doesn't just send end on that date.   Like, for example, the first world war   ended in November   on the eleventh hour,   11:00   on the 11/11/1918,   officially.   But that war still carried on, and the poor souls   on both sides whose minds were absolutely shattered by what they'd seen and what they've been through. And that's the trouble. Wars don't end on the dates that they say in the minds of thousands of people. Yeah. They don't. They don't. Sorry to step over you there. We got a caller. Hi there, caller.  



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You've just come into the show. Welcome to the show. Who are we speaking to?  

[00:41:13] Unknown:

Hello. It's,  

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Paul. My name is Paul. Hi, Paul. I'm Paul too. So this is great. And we've got another Paul in the studio, so you should feel quite cozy.  

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Well, I've Yeah. And I've changed my name to Paul as well.  

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Yeah. No. It was just a bit thank you very much to,   you know, Paul in particular   and Eric,   especially   for,   speaking such truth in,   you know, these dire times.   They are dire. He was just a   yeah. Absolutely dire.   You know, it it's sort of high time that   the the truth did eventually sort of come out, and full respect to,   to all of you chaps for for trying to do it. But it it just seems like there's so many people   don't want to listen.  

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I think that's the no question. But at least you're not one of them. So thank you for picking up the phone and calling us. It's great. I love getting calls and we hardly get any so you're very you're going to a very special select category. If we can if we can find out anything about you and we'll we'll get the Fockham Hall secret service onto it. You might even get a pencil. We're onto it already. Yeah, we'll we'll try get you a fucking whole pencil because you need a pencil as a momentum.   It's fantastic. You're absolutely right. People won't listen.   Do do you have that problem when you're trying to talk to people about any of this stuff, or do you just not bother anymore? I'm fine with it either way, by the way.  



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Yeah. No. I always sort of try and,   very tentatively   assess people to see whether they are open minded enough to,   to accept the truth.   But, you know, for a long, long, long time now, it it's,   it it it's been sort of, like, words falling on deaf ears, to be to be quite honest. So you you do get disheartened, but, you know, that that truth thing that we all try and sort of speak on is,   is always there and, you know, it it can't be suppressed.   You know, the truth is   it's it's it's got his own voice, and it it won't be silent.  

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No. It won't.  

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You know,   so I think I'd say,   Eric, my my father, he was in the war. And   he was in the actual,   regiment that liberated   Bergen Belsen Camp.   Oh, yes. You know, he he he told me   about a lot a lot of things   about Bergen Belsen. And,   you know, the year   the inmates   were crueler than the, the actual Germans. And so so, you know, I I have   it first on sort of,   evident with people who were, you know, directly involved in the whole   Mhmm.   Because that's what it was in that sense.   And, you know,   I'm not I was talking about this this guy fifty odd years ago.   You know, at at the time,   well, no one believed me then and, you know, that if you believe me now, but   there's probably more now. We we have more.  

But, you know, the, the accusations   that, you know, you you were not afraid to even suggesting some of the things  

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that what we do try and discuss with it. It is disarming.  

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You know what I mean? It,   yeah. It it does flood your spirits for years. The the the the truth   it's great. You know, I'll I'll listen to you, and I I get real strength from you guys,   to just sort of speaking truth to it, you know, and otherwise Thank you. The audience or  

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That's great. That's really good. Well, that's really what this is a bit like, we're like a psychological support unit here for one another to stop ourselves all going mad.   So,   you know,   it's a massive challenge. It really is. It's a massive challenge with people outside of this conversation, Paul. It really is.  

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But I think Yeah. After this Yeah. Myself  

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Believe believe the lies, first of all. Yeah. Sorry.   These lies.  

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Yeah. Yeah.  

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So I think  

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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Because we have no reason to although I always  

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I always questioned it because my dad was always a little bit,   during the war, he he had a very different view to the other people. So that's why I always questioned it. But when I saw these   pictures and what they showed you that, I believed it because you have no reason to disbelieve.   And that's the problem. We have to relearn things,   because history is not necessarily what happened. It's usually what a minority of people want you to believe,   sadly. That's that that's the way life is. But please carry on, Paul. Sorry. It's you you're on the phone. I'm very interested in what you've got to say.  

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Yeah. You know, I mean,   similar to yourself, Eric, in in a lot of respects. You know, we've got some,   Eric,   you know, first time accounts of   of people who   were there and witnessed it.   And, you know, more than that, the actual,   you know, you pick up from your father's   emotions as well. And there was always a sad sense of   guilt that my father could never   talk about. And   I mean, not just me father, me, my uncles and everyone was involved in the the absolute   bloody sham, you know. And   that that guilt gets Same here. Sort of transmitted without being spoiled.  

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You know, it it's,  

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yeah, it's absolute   crap, really. It   it's   so   sick. It you know?   These people have no,   no no no   emotion, you know, no no empathy.   They're they're they're actually narcissists. That that's why no one can understand them.  

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It's true. You're absolutely right. They're they're Yeah.  

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Yeah. You know, I mean, everyone   may not been on a spiritual sort of journey as well,   which probably sounds will will to people. But it it isn't it. It's the most real   thing I've ever   thought I'd done or discussed in me, you know, in me life. But   and I've I've had direct involvement with narcissists and, unfortunately, as well.   And the, the   similarities between   sort of narcissists   that have been involved with me personally and   the narcissistic   sort of tendencies   that I've noticed   with some of these creatures that would, you know, take us down that evil,   horrible,   demonic sort of run world.  

They they don't have any empathy. There's no divine spark   at all in them, people.   You know, they they don't have what   most people have a true self,   regardless of the, you know, the,   the ego self. The,   you know, the   the   self that the thing is   the thing, but that's just the thing that, you know, produces a character and people get mistook with,   you know, mistaking that   that character, the actor,   the for the ring itself. And, you know, the the actual narcissist don't have that real self. All we've got is the character.   They they don't have any divine   spark with,   you know,   with the true god,   which is   yeah. We only want the gods to be innocent.  

Yes. I know. I've I've just lost   slightly, but it's,   yeah. It it's a big picture, and if everyone got in touch with with with their true self, then it'd be much nicer   world.   You know, this is   a story, and these teachers are being allowed to manipulate this story.   That's that's, you know, the the way I'm sort of viewing it to the questions.  

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Well, Paul, it's really good to hear from you,   and you should feel free to call in at any time during the shows. Not again today, of course. You've hogged the mic for for five minutes. I'm teasing you, by the way. Mhmm. It's really good to get calls in.   And I I've been recommending a film recently, which if you haven't seen, it'll give you a lift as well because it's very funny. If you go on a YouTube, there's a film called Barnum World.   Check it out. It's an hour and a half. It's an absolute blast,   and what it's talking about is very much the the communications   challenge that we've got.  

It's a a very cynical, skeptical, acerbic,   scathing view of human nature, and everybody,   that's walking in this direction needs to get to see it because it'll give you a lift. Barnum World, b a r n u m, World.   It's on YouTube.   Stick it on your TV if you got one. Watch it big time because it's, it's very funny because it's very true,   and it shows you the stupidity   that we're surrounded with   and how it kind of breaks everybody's heart really that we are.   That said, all that black pill stuff aside,   this is me swallowing an optimistic tablet. It's better now. It's less bad than it's ever been, but it's still bad. But it's definitely less bad.   So, you know, I think our approach here is to just keep pounding away. I don't know what else to do. This seems to be a pretty good use of time and getting calls from you and anybody else like you that comes in justifies the whole thing. So it's wonderful. So thank you very much for calling in, Paul.  

And, we look forward to speaking to you again on the next one. Yeah. Yeah. No.  

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Yeah. Well, it's it's been a real a real pleasure speaking to you as well, Paul, and, it it it was just,   you know,   voice me, appreciation for the   the   wise words you you always speak.   It's actually which town to sucky.  

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That's fantastic. That's great. My head's just got a little bit bigger, but it makes it all worthwhile.   Paul, we say goodnight to you. Have a good rest of the evening. We look forward to speaking to you again when you call in next time. Thanks very much for your call, mate. Appreciate it. Much much appreciated.  

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Yeah. Well, thanks. Hey, Paul. Thank you very much. Yeah. Thank you, man. Thank you, Eric as well.   Thanks. Bye for now. Fine. Thank you. Yeah. Bye bye now. Compliments.  

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Compliments aren't a bad thing as long as you have French doors on your studio.   You don't put them both and   get them through.   A question for you.   Citadels of Chaos, was that written by Cornelius   Veith?  

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Yes. Or Veith, I pronounced it. But yeah. V e I t h. Yes. It was. Why have you have you located it?   Our great librarian in the sky, have you?  

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I have. Oh,   yes. The link for it,   I I had it up in my Google Drive. I don't know I don't know where the hell I where I where I found it or where I got it from, but it was up in my Google Drive. So I just popped the link in the chat and It's because you're a well organized chat, Paul. That's why that's why we're all connected up because you know what you're doing  

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and things don't go wrong for you technically and everything's marvelous.  

[00:53:05] Unknown:

I'm a well oiled machine, I guess.   Yeah. That's cool. Much to the chagrin of most.  

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Fantastic.   By the way, I think I think we've got the number running across the screen here. So if anybody else out there gets the urge, this is sort of show where you can call in and do stuff.   Actually, just referencing back to that film Barnum World, there was a little coincidence today in that I'd already decided to do a thing about Ezra Pound and World War two anyway. I know we've not talked much about Ezra yet, but you know what it's like with these pictures. I've got to come up with an image. He looks fantastic. I've got to get a scarf like that.   And considering what he's been through what he's been through and how fantastically gifted he was in so many ways, and he devoted his life. You know, this huge chunk of his life was taken from him for basically speaking the truth, and that's so admirable. He made a massive self sacrifice, which is a key part, I think of this process which is something else that people don't find very attractive.  

I understand why but,   you look through the history books and this is the kind of stuff that it takes to sort of shove something.   But I was, the Barnum World thing that I just mentioned again and I'm just repeating again because I'm like a little advertising hoarding for it at the moment. I started watching it again last night, watched about forty minutes,   was just thought I need to watch this once a month actually just to keep banging it in. It's great, you know, things slip your mind, your head gets busy, all that kind of stuff.   But, legal man, that's his handle on x,   wrote this was it earlier today or yesterday? Is it September 8? It's earlier today.  

He wrote this,   until the truth about World War one and World War two are understood   by a large portion of the people,   there's no chance to turn things around. I   agree.   The power structure, he says, in place is 100%   dependent upon that truth never being told or understood,   and every side of the government media academia control system guard that lie with everything they have.   What do you think, Eric? Do you think that's true?  

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Absolutely  

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excellent. Excellent. They guard it with everything they've got. Everything. This is why when you talk to people about it, they call you a Nazi.   Right? Because the programming is very very strong. He goes on, he says, when I even suggest to people   that the official story they've been given is a fairy tale that pretty much turns things on its head, well, the people get angry at me and start calling me names. Oh, I wonder what names they call him.   Just like during COVID. So that's that.   We can't escape the electronic prison that's coming as long as those narratives are in place.   This is a key component of it. Spot on. Lurking lump of massive history with so much death that's just dismissed,   you know,   eighty million people dead throughout Europe and throughout the world. It's absolutely astronomical number of people.  

Eighty million.  

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Well, you you couldn't even imagine that, but Stalin said something creepy. He said the death of,   so many million is a mere statistic,   but the death of one person  

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isn't. Now Yeah. It's a track the death of one person is a tragedy, and the death of millions and millions is just a statistic. Wrong. It's alright. That's the same, mate.  

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But but it I got it all I got it all bummed out of the face. But,   but the thing the thing that gets me, every war has to be justified.   And World War one could not be justified,   so there's almost a revolution in this country   after that war.   And they made bloody sure the next war would be justified.   Because you think about it, the troops came back from World War one saying, what were we fought for?   And then you asked many when they were alive,   you would have asked many of those first World War veterans   what the war was about. They wouldn't have had a clue.   It was a mystery   about what the World War one was about, and it still is Yeah. To many people.  

And they've they've fogged it. They said, well, it is prince it Fertiland that was shot in Sarajevo   by a, a student, etcetera, etcetera.   But it becomes very complicated.   Very, very complicated. Wasn't it amazing how simple World War two was presented to the people?  

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Mhmm.  

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Yeah. And how it changed.   A lot changed in that twenty years between the first World War and the twenty   and the second World War, especially regarding social engineering.   They've learned their lesson.  

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And that's my little that's my little soapbox for this evening. What would it be like today? What I mean, you have all these people emoting all of it's just a bizarre thing. It's just a different way of   of hijacking people's attention to not look at the foundational nitty gritty,   which requires   an adult, in the best sense of the word, attitude.   Mhmm. It's, you know, the invitation here always, the subtext of everything we're talking about is,   there's this hellish mess. People around the microphones here know a great deal about it. Not everything, but we know a great deal about it. And we want to communicate about it so that it sparks something off in the listeners. And many of the listeners here, it already has done that. We know those in Rumble and YouTube are already,   you know, getting on a similar wavelength and maybe on a better one, a more precise one. There's always improvements that can be made in all of these communications   all the time and that's why we keep doing it, to try and find a shorthand way to do it. But, you know, is it the case that you it's always permanently gonna be a case that you can lead a horse to water but you can't make them drink. You can lead an asshole to the truth. But if you don't wanna read it, what's the point? I mean, really, you know, I think our job I just feel like I'm running around trying to find the next horse.  



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Well, it's a perfect example is the invention of the jerry can. Now the invention of the jerry can   was a brilliant invention. It's so brilliant that they're still using it today. And that's what? Eighty, ninety years sorry. Over ninety years, almost a hundred years after it's first invented.   Now does that mean because I praise the invention of the jerry can that I'm a goose stepping neo Nazi right wing extremist or something like that? No. Yes. Because Yes. It means that. Of course it means that. Yes. It does. Yes. Yes.   Because I believe the Israeli army use jerry cans.  

Oh, god. Around the world, they use a jerry can. So does so,   what does that say? I mean, this is the thing. People pick on anything.   They say, oh, you know, oh, yeah. That was the Nazis. You invented that Nazis.   Yeah. It's a bloody good idea. It is. It is a bloody good idea. It saved it saved thousands of lives from being burnt to death with Yeah. With crappy canes. So, you know, I mean, that's that's So everybody, hold your hold your personal jerry can in your hand because we've come to the end of the first hour  

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where we play a song and I'm going to play a Dick Barton theme tune because it just happens to be here on the screen. It shows you how much planning I put into this show. Right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So we're gonna have a bit of Dick Barton. We're gonna be away for a few minutes. Enjoy this,   envisage yourself as a spy   doing spy things.   This is the Dick Barton theme, the devil's gallop it was called. How about that?   And we'll be back after this song.  

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Thank you indeed and to me choking as well at the same time. I'm all giddy after that one a bit, Eric. I was running around   venting, getting quite  

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excited.   Snowy. Was it was it is his dog? But I've got a funny story about Dick Barton, special agent.  

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Would you like to hear it, boys and girls? I think by the way, before you jump into that, I think I think you're muddling your genres and your stories. Snowy.   Snowy was the pooch that was the best pal of Tintin.   Do you remember?  

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Was it? I think you're right.  

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Did Dick Barton have a dog? I thought it was Dick Barton.  

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No. I think it was. It was Snowy. Hang on. And I thought Okay, Snowy. Come on.   I think you're right. I have mixed genres out. Captain Haddock, the crab with the golden balls, all those things. That's right. I've got my knickers in a twist.  

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It's alright. That looks I I want to go on tinting now. Please say your anecdote because I've hijacked your moment.  

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Okay. Well well, I was gonna say, you know, I had three uncles,   all stand up comedians.   Yeah. The youngest one was Ron,   The middle one was Ernie, and the oldest one was Len. Now the middle one, it was Ernie. He was my dad's friend during the war,   and my dad married his sister. See? So there we go. But anyway, on with the story.   The youngest brother,   Ron, he was an avid, Dick Barton special agent,   radio listener.   And he used to listen into it every this is when the three,   blokes but when they were younger and they lived at home, you see, used to live listen to it regularly, and he's really into it.   Well,   on one occasion,   they had,   a murderer that   crawled up a drain pipe   and then got in by the windows   and murdered people, you see. And Dick Barton had to solve the mystery, you see. Yeah. Anyway,   that either that night or a couple of nights later, he my uncle went to bed.  

And as he's lying there, he sees this shadow   creeping up the drainpipe outside,   full moonlit night. It was everything was perfect.   He was absolutely terrified.   Hey. What it was, it was Ernie. I'd come home late, and his dad used to lock the door. So he's creeping up crawling up the grave pipe to get to his bedroom.  

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I thought I'd just mention that one. Oh, I like that.  

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Family. Yeah. That's good. Yeah. That's really good. And,  

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yeah, that that that yeah. I mean, I think let's put it this way. He may have had a laundry problem after after that occasion. I'll put that politely.  

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Hey. That's not bad. That's not bad, Eric. That's a very general allusion to that area. And we're an hour and eight minutes into the show. This is really impressive. Yes.   I don't think we had it. Worry about Did we have anything vulgar at all in the first hour? It's a bit of a bit of a No. We've missed our mark there. That's a bit much, isn't it? It is. It's a bit much. I think, yes. I I yes. I I yes. I've  

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I must keep taking the tablet, so I think that's the problem.  

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Yeah. By the way, just while we're sort of doing a little bit of, we had a call in which I missed. Apologies 07407.   It almost sounds like 007, doesn't it? But, I'm looking at the screen now. We were just dealing with things during the break, but if you do want to call in again that's fine.   WBN, which we're going out on right now. Hi everybody on WBN.   Ria Bowe, who holds the flag hosts the flagship show on Sunday.   Just to let you know, she's,   unwell at the moment.   She's in hospital, but I got a message from her this morning. Oh, no. A great little voice message. She sounds really good that she's just going through a series of checks. I hope she doesn't mind and is embarrassed by me saying this, but there won't be a show,   a Rhea Bow show again this Sunday. There wasn't one last Sunday because of this and there won't be one this Sunday, but fingers crossed hopefully she'll be back behind the mic soon. She's obviously, I assume, itching to get back. She sounded pretty good in the call but they're just trying to check out what went wrong with her.  

I'm not going to go into any details but she sounds pretty good and she was gagging for a pint of coffee this morning so I'm assuming that she probably got that by now.   So if you if you catch this Rhea,   lots of love to you and hope you get well soon. We need everybody we can get, obviously.   And apart from which I'm missing my my slot on your show. This is outrageous.   So,   anyway, I just thought I'd let everybody know. So, yeah, keep her in your thoughts. She seems okay. Fingers crossed. That's that's exactly how it's all gonna pan out.   And, also a shout out to Night and Day for keeping me in the loop. So I just like to, you know, acknowledge these good things that are going on in in a bad world. Yeah. It's all good stuff. Hang on a  

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minute. We got regarding by by Dick Barton. He was, a special agent,   on the radio BBC radio series,   1946   to 1951.   Barton   was an ex commando, and Snowy   White   was his faithful wartime colleague.  

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Ah, so he wasn't a dog then?  

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It wasn't a dog. No.   Alright. So I I think it's kind of a bit funny.  

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Yeah. No. Well, that's just gonna be a smug get. No. I like it. I like being wrong. That's fine. That's fine.   Yeah. Yes. Well, of course, you see, Eric, Dick Bart was a bit before my time, frankly.  

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Sorry. Well, it's a lot bloody long time before my time as well. Yes. Nineteen forty six nineteen fifty one. Yes. Well, we were here. We were here. Come out. I'm not gonna know your coming, don't   we? So, yes, it was snowy. Yes. Here we go. So   yeah. Yeah.   So  

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you know Anyway, so were we thing. What what was it? What was it? An hour and eight minutes into the program before,   before we went to the the humor side? It's a bit of a let down, isn't it? Bit of a let down. And yeah. It is. Who was the fellow? If I was known he was gonna drop the ball, I would have come up with something. Actually, I do have one.  

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It's still a bit early. We're on WBN.  

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I'm gonna try and I've gotta keep this slot held down, you know, steady.  

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Okay. Well, the the other day, I was I was rooting around the Internet, and I came across an origami   porn site.   Unfortunately,   everything on the site is paper view.   Yeah. P a p e r Oh, okay. Yeah.  

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We nearly had a tumbleweed moment there, didn't we?  

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Yes. We almost almost did.  

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Ding. We needed that we needed that church bell. Anyway,   rushing back   rushing back to the topic that we were covering in hour one because we've barely scratched the surface. I   actually better say that the end of every show really, there's so many things to to keep looking at. They're all relevant.   Let me just provide a little bit more meat on the bone with regards to the German economic miracle which is at the root. I would suggest, I think, Gaili Simpson was absolutely right. It's at the root of what that conflict was all about. I'm holding to that position. I know those other people say it's about other things as well,   and I think you've also got to take into account,   the interrogation of Rakowski,   which is in a book which I can't remember the name of now, but I've got a copy of it. The red red symphony, if you've not heard of it everybody out there.  

Henry Mackow on his site covered Rakovsky's book quite a lot about ten or twelve years back.   It's to let me read you a little bit from this document I've got here called how Hitler defiled   defied.   Defiled is fine though by me as well. How Hitler defied the bankers.   He says   that, Henry Mackow quotes from the 1938   interrogation of CG Rakovsky,   one of the founders of Soviet Bolshevism   and a Trotsky intimate. Rakovsky was tried in show trials in The USSR under Stalin.   According to Rakovsky,   Hitler was at first, this is part of it, at first funded by the international bankers. I'm reasonably sure that that's true. Through the bankers agent, Hjalmar Schacht. Now Schacht was thick as thieves with,   the head of the Bank of England whose name has now run out of my head as well.  

Oh, dear. I'm I'm obviously getting dopey up at that age.   I've got a sea's picture, little goatee beard and everything.   Peregrine Worst Hormone's grandson.   Can't remember his name. Bugger. Drat.   Anyway, Hjalmar Schacht worked with this. What era was this? Yes. Nineteen twenties. He was in the June 4. Okay. He was a great schemer and formed the Bank of International Settlements with Schacht. They played a key role in it to create   the the central bank for central bankers.   Montague Norman. You see? It just came in there. Montague I got Montague and that was it. Montague Norman. Right? It was thick as thieves with him. It says the bankers financed Hitler in order to control Stalin   who had usurped power from their agent Trotsky. This is a key thing and it all comes out in this interview   which was conducted in Paris   by a Russian interrogation officer who was also in the document and the notes were kept by a doctor, doctor Landowski   And that I'm not reading that off this page. I remembered that. So there's a guy called doctor Landowski was brought in and they gave Rakovsky a kind of drug so that it would be a bit looser tongue, but he said he probably doesn't need it anyway. He's quite willing to talk. Rakovsky, of course, got topped later on in the purges under Stalin, I think.  

But he's interrogate much to the,   utter bewilderment of, the interrogating officer whose name I do forget for now,   and it took place in a hotel room in Paris   in 1938.   And what he basically says is,   look,   communism is just a convenient peg on which we're hand hanging something and when we've used that, we'll throw that in the bin as well. But I I like to stick to the term communism simply because it's had a lot of PR, right, for the last hundred and odd years, and people know what they're talking about. And it really is just another word for globalism. It's the same stuff.   But the gist of it is is that Trotsky,   Lev Bronstein from the East Side Of New York, was the, international   bankers, the Rothschild child and Kern Loeb bankers agent   in Bolshevik communist Russia. Because without understanding Russia as well, you can't understand this,   because the whole development of Russia was funded by the same people   that were basically running capitalism in the West. Absolutely bizarre contradiction in most people's heads. It was in mine when I first stumbled across it going, hey. Hang on. That can't be right. Capitalism's good and communism's bad. What's going on? But as we I think we've mentioned it here before, Eric, haven't we, that the ultimate client   for a for a central bank is a whole nation, and the best way to completely get that nation in your grip is to turn it communist, I. E. With the central bank and progressive income tax,   which is what is written in the International Communist Manifesto.  

For those of you who I know have all got a copy in your toilet which you read when you go to do your ablutions. Right? I've got one there.  

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Well,   you can also hear   Yeah. But you can also hear it being sung, the communist manifesto in the nineteen thirties, which is John Lennon imagine because that was from the communist manifesto of the nineteen thirties. Mhmm.  

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I keep missing calls. Look, I've had somebody else bombing and out twice. Oh, no. I'm such a Herbert. So Henry's   I'll catch you next time. Sorry. Sorry, Eric. I just keep I'm not I'm not looking at the right screen. I'm not used to this everybody. You calling in. Don't worry. Come on. Keep calling in and train me. I'll I'll get good at it. So, yeah. Sorry, Eric. You were saying? Yes. Please come in. Sir Henry  

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Stackosh,   if that's the correct Stackosh. Yeah.   Paid off,   yeah, paid off,   Churchill's   debts.   Mhmm. And he was the city of London.   Need I say any more?  

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Need we say more? He was part of that industrial combine group over here. What was it called? Was it the syn it wasn't the syndicate. It was something else. I can't remember the name of it. It was headed up by Wally Cohen, who was a big British industrialist and thick as thieves were the central bankers as well.   Yeah. And Rakovsky,   no. Stakosh was part of that that entire group, and they were That's right. They were Churchill's handlers to a great degree.   Yeah.  

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That's right.   I mean, he's he's he was in debt to £19,500.   He's due to lose lose Chartwell.   Now that doesn't sound a lot of money by today's standards, but in the nineteen thirties, it was a heck of a lot of money. Oh, yeah. And,  

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but He saved he saved Britain and saved the empire, Eric.  

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It says it Hold on. You gotta hold your lapel.   Well, I went into for the first time, I I went into,   the,   Waltham Abbey Museum the other day, and I had I I passed it umpteen times. I've lived here for god knows how many years. Well, I don't live in Waltham Abbey, but I live not that far from it. But I've I've never been into the museum, and I've never been into the actual Abbey, which I'm gonna make a point of doing because, I mean, I've lived here so long, and I've never I just you just take it for granted.   Well, in the museum, they had an entire   room   dedicated to Churchill.  

And I wondered I was gonna ask them, do they provide sick bags? You know, so you could throw up. I mean, unbelievable.  

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Yeah. Don't know. Churchill worship. Yeah. Maybe they do. Maybe they don't, with the sick bag stuff.   Actually missing calls. I've just missed another one from Bradley. Bradley Springate.   See, very difficult to say your name Bradley for an English type.   Can you say that, Eric? Bradley Springate.   But anyway, Bradley, if you wanna call in again, I'm looking. I'm looking. I am honestly oh, god. I'm a failure on this.   Let me just finish this little bit on this thing. I'm reading one screen on my left and looking at the calls on the right.   So this is basically what happened. They were they financed Hitler in the early stages,   right? And got him almost like got him into power to some degree. Although, you need to read Goebbels diaries that are absolutely amazing. I talked about these,   some months back   with regards to how they literally ran out of every they didn't have a penny left.  

They were absolutely this is about 1932,   I think, as he was transforming Berlin. They had nothing. Absolutely nothing left.   But it says here,   then Hitler became an even bigger threat than Stalin when Hitler started printing his own money.   That's basically the gist of what we're talking about here and it's what Gaili Simpson was referring to,   is that there were two major banks,   run by   Jewish bank managers in Berlin that were arranging for lots of money to go to the National Socialists nineteen thirty thirty one that kind of period '32.   But when he got in he didn't need it anymore   and this is what   through,   sort of spanner in the wrench as far as they were concerned because that year then you got,   what's his name? Samuel Untermyer,   having that thing printed in the oh, there we go. We got a call. Let's get this in. Oh, people are coming   in. They're coming in and leaving. Why is that?  

I can't seem to catch it fast enough. Sorry to witter on about my technical thing. So I see that Bradley called. I see Patrick that you called and tried to get in. Is there a problem?   Is it just kicking you out of the meeting automatically? It's not supposed to do that. I picked up the other one quite quickly.   Got all these calls. Sorry.   Sorry about this about my technical incompetence.   Alright. Okay.  

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Back to the matter. About the possible flatulence jokes. You know, I  

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could come out with a flatulence joke which would set them, you know, so that might be the reason. Yeah. You never know. Yeah. By the way, all of this is relevant to Pound as well because Pound was onto all this stuff as well. Anyway, just reading this little section here, Rakovsky said in this interrogation,   Hitler took over the privilege of manufacturing money and not only physical monies but also financial ones. That is to do with the instruments of credit that banks use and all this kind of stuff. He took over the machinery of falsification.   That's what central banks are involved with. They are falsifiers.  

He took over the machinery of falsification and put it to work for the benefit of the people.   Well, I never have you ever heard of such a thing?  

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What an evil man. How disgusting. How dare he do such a thing.  

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Absolutely. Absolutely.   So he took a history of falsification, blah blah blah. Can you possibly imagine this is Rakowski speaking. Can you possibly imagine what would have come if this had infected a number of other states?   Yeah. I imagine it every day practically, mister Rakovsky, even though I know you're dead nearly a hundred years.   Yep.   Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. Then there's, economist Henry c k Lew,   writes of Germany's remarkable transformation, the Nazis came to power in '33 when the German economy was in total collapse with ruinous war reparation obligations   created,   created in, Versailles.  

This is Versailles caused all this intentionally.   Through an independent monetary policy of sovereign credit and a full employment public works program, the Third Reich was able to turn a bankrupt Germany,   stripped of overseas colonies, into the strongest economy in Europe   in four years,   as those figures showed us,   before.   Hang on. I'm looking at things here.   Oh,   everybody's calling me. Why Paul, why are you calling in?   I don't know what's going on.   Paul, you're there. Have you have you are you just testing out the phone system so that I can get Yeah. I'm just testing out the phone system. Well, it's working fine, isn't it? Thank you. Okay. It's working.   Alright. Cool, man. Thanks for the test. Working for for for New York, United States. Yes. Yeah. This is good. Alright. So you can still call in everybody even though I'm a bit of an ass with the buttons today. Sorry about that. It just happens. I'm getting trained here live on air.  

Where had I got to with this thing? Okay. So, yeah. The third right was able to turn a bankrupt Germany stripped of overseas colonies into the strongest economy in Europe within four years even before armament spending began. And that's what that chart that we read out about an hour ago   basically showed,   did it not?   Absolutely. You know, it's amazing. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. And just to let you all know that would happen here if we did the same thing. What would also probably happen is that somebody   would be induced to declare war on us and bombers into smithereens.   Yeah. Even Britain. They do that to us. That's right. Look at what they're doing anyway. Well,  

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why not we start an idea of asking every politician you come up against what you're gonna do about abolishing usury? Just if not enough people kept kept on and on and on. I mean, look at,   Nigel Farage.   He worked in the city, and people are falling for his waffle. Oh, this is the change we need. He's doing the same as what Obama did. Every other word was is change. No. Nothing's gonna change   because he's not prepared to grasp usury by the throat. And he knows if he mentions anything about usury, he he'll end up in a wooden overcoat.   And that's the problem. The politicians, they all realize that. Well, it's like we're saying here about it. If  

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there are some politicians I mean, I can't actually name any, but I'm gonna work on the basis that it must be a handful on both sides of the pond and probably in other countries as well   that have won an election, been elected as an MP or a representative or whatever the terminology is for your nation,   they've gone in there with good intentions, they've said the right things, and they get in and they find and discover what any intelligent and honorable person would discover is that they've just dropped into a, a rat sack.   And they begin to see that no matter what they do, they won't be able to affect it because there's so much vested interest in the culture there already   that they can't have an individual   speaking up and telling the truth. Not only would it make them look bad, but it's a major threat for rising making the people rise up and destroying them. They go   they they have an apoplectic fit, understandably.  

Paul. Yeah. Hi, Patrick.  

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Hi. Hi. Hey. Eli James is Eli is in the,  

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the queue. The queue. Everybody's in there. Hi, Eli. Hi, Patrick. Hi, Eli. Hi, Paul. Hi, Eric. Hi. Welcome to the show, Eli. How are you doing? Yeah. Yeah.  

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I'm being censored.  

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You're being what?  

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Is it painful? Talking about.  

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Yeah. Elo, is it painful? I mean, yeah. Can you get ointment for it? Yeah. Yeah. No. Well, I've been this big scar down my chest.  

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Oh, blimey. It's a it hurts. It hurts being censored. It really does. Yeah. Mhmm. Right? Yeah. We're glad you stopped. Oh, how are you doing? That's for sure. How are you doing? It's a bit Well, I'm doing okay. I've had Good. Cool.  

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A crazy day. Crazy day. Every, like, twenty minutes my, Internet goes out. Never had anything like this before. Right. You had a really bad experience last week.   I did. Talking about forbidden subjects.  

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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.   Well, we've not we've done we've not done so bad so far. I mean, I guess this is slightly forbidden, but what we're doing really is just reading other people's documents. I mean, that's about all we can do. These are not personal opinions. We're simply presenting information from historical records and not particularly well known. Do you see how I tried to cover my backside there, EI? Montague Norman. Yeah. Montague Norman, Paul.   You were you were asking Montague Norman Yeah. Hallmark shop? You're a bit late. Oh, yeah. We did get it. I got it, actually. Me and Eric got it at the same time. Oh, I've I've missed it. We did. No. Don't worry about it.   It's it's fine.  

Yeah. We got it in the end. Montague Norman.  

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Yes. You can't fool me. I'm too stupid.  

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Yeah. We're just I mean, I don't know if you've been chimney in your eye, but we're talking about the economic miracle of Germany in, from 1933   onwards. That's really what the topic of the show is. We're talking about Pound's knowledge of that   intermittently.   We're talking about this whole thing, and we're talking about the fact also that most people do not know   that   truth with regards to that period of history and it's very very difficult as you well know to get this one across   because of the absolute colossal Hollywood and British TV and worldwide TV output,   which says the complete opposite and just basically produces all this sort of propagandistic   builds. They they they probably invested more in propaganda after the war and continue to do so than they ever did prior to it and during it to maintain this complete hokum around the story. You can never get to the bottom of it through mainstream media.  



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Yeah. Am I in a Nazi South?  

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Abby, I don't know. I don't know. I hope not. That was something. Will not is.   No. Always will not is.  

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No, Eli. You're not in the Nazi South. You're being  

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Help. Help. I'm being repressed, bloody peasant.  

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Yeah.   Yeah. You are a bit. We're we're getting a little bit of echo Paul, by the way. Paul, I've got a bit of echo coming back through you, just to let you know. Okay? Sorry. It's alright? It's alright. It's alright. It's alright. It's alright. It's alright. It's alright. It's alright. It's alright. It's alright. It's alright. It's alright. It's just a tidy up. So, yeah, that's what we've been discussing, Eli. Do you have any views about that? You being a German and all.  

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She's German.  

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Yeah. Eli's a German.  

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Really?   And the German bombed their chip shop during the war. He's got a bit quiet. Do you know that they bombed their chip shops during the war?  

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You still there, Eli? He is. I think he you know, he just mentioned Internet problems. So we're having fun now, aren't we? He's gone. Oh, he's gone. He's bombed off. So he's definitely having Internet problems. The heat of Arkansas is boiling these cables, making him disappear. Patrick, yes. Would this interest you? I I'm looking on We Lib for Ezra Pound related  

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articles and there's one here that says Ezra Pound speaking radio speeches of World War two. You think that'd be worth reading?  

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I've got them. I've I I did try to record a few. They're they're written   in quite a complex way. Have a look at them. I'm not gonna do it tonight in the show. There are basically there's about 78 of them, isn't there? Something like that, if I remember rightly.  

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What what were the circumstances of it?  

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Yeah. He what what, basically, he he was out in Italy   and he managed to get some airtime   on an Italian radio station, which was broadcast across across Europe at the time. And this is one of the reasons why   the upper echelons of The US military establishment didn't look upon him with much favor   because he was bringing all his erudite learned literary   skills to bear in these communications and they're quite pithy and acerbic   and to the point and he's addressing   all of the ruination of Europe.   Basic, you know, one of the themes repeatedly, not in all of them, but one of the the underlying themes of it is that the,   that the banking issue is at the heart of it. As pound well knew,   him having already, you know,   done I don't know if he'd done it by then but, you know, as we said that poem, Usura, which he did, he knows he knew the principles of the ruination of the earth because of the usurers and could see this basically. I think he might have even called it a usurers war, which it is. I mean, it absolutely was. That's what it's about. So, you know, like we've mentioned here before with Libya and but with in a on a much vaster scale,   Germany basically   didn't really stick two fingers up at them. It just cut them out.  

And there's that quote, I think we've mentioned it here before, Lord Boothby,   who was   bent as a 9 bob note and was thick as thieves with the craters in the   60s. Boothby was a pal in his younger years with Churchill, and there's a letter that Churchill wrote to Boothby,   and paraphrasing it says something like Germany's great sin   was to extricate itself from the world's financial system and to deny international,   banks their share of the profits as if they're entitled to it.   And of course, in their minds they are. But that's basically what he did. He said,   no. We're off. See you. Bye. And that's why it only took five years and it just went through the roof. Five years from nothing. This I mean, I know that they're highly competent people   and they're industrious and they're very well organized. They had a tradition of that and a history of that prior to World War two.  

But still from the ruination of the Weimar, when they had and you know when they came into power there's what six and a half million men unemployed   and within side three years nearly five and a half million had been put back to work. All of these things that happened that make you salivate as a human being for knowing how it would be and of course we've been also sold this lie have we not continually   at this end you know all those rallies where you see them all cheering go oh they're all brainwashed.   Well I'm going okay, well if they're all brainwashed that way surely that's a better type of brainwashing than the crap we've been receiving where everybody's miserable   as as hell. But of course, it isn't brainwashing, it was a genuine,   expression of adoration really for him because   they'd addressed the nub of it. And of do we hear any politicians at all   that address the nub of this in your life? Have you ever heard one ever? As I said, the closest we've got,   the closest that we've ever come, I'm gonna play it now again, where is it? I think I've got it here, is, this from Liz Truss a year ago, back in January 2024 on Steve Bannon. This is a minute. This is the closest I've ever heard somebody who was at the highest levels of power, albeit for only forty seven days,  

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say something absolutely truthful about the banking system. What I found out when I got into number 10 is I thought that if I got to the top of the tree,  

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I I would be able to implement those conservative policies and get a chance. Prime minister Yeah. I as a little girl thinking, if I get prime minister, I'll be like Churchill, change the country. That's not how it works. Exactly. And what I discovered  

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was that I was not holding the levers.   The levers were held   by the Bank of England,   by the Office of Budget Responsibility.  

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They weren't held by the prime minister or the chancellor. And I think that's a massive Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. That's a massive problem. Hang on. You're saying the Central Bank, the Bank of England is one of the things that controls are you a conspiracy theory person?   You almost sound like Gorham. You're you're MAGA. What what I'm saying, Steve,  

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is that if the Bank of England governor   can't be sacked   and the prime minister   can be sacked,   then the Bank of England governor is gonna have more power than the prime minister. And that is a problem in a democracy.   Because the fact is the left have succeeded in infiltrating our   campuses.  

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Tada.   That's still number one for me in terms of anybody up at the top level of power in recent times saying anything truthful or honest about the banking system.  

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That's right.   Spot  

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on. Let's just have a pre let's have a pregnant pause.   There we go. It's quite nice that. I quite enjoyed that. Did you enjoy that? Yes. It was good.  

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Silence courtesy of what the bloody hell shall I say next? Sorry.  

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Whilst I'm playing clips, I picked this one up from Godfrey Bloom. I won't play the other one about banking. His banking speech is fantastic and will play it three or four times a year. This is this I think this is possibly in the same meeting   when he's talking about taxation. Listen to this. I only caught this the other day. I had to strip the music out of the background with it so it goes a bit funny at times, but you'll get the gist of it. This is Godfrey Bloom, I think about ten years back, about 02/2014.  

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Telling it straight. Thank you very much, mister Bloom. In one minute.  

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Well, mister president,   I'm,   minded actually to quote the great American philosopher, Murray Rothbard here, that the state   the state is an institution of of theft writ   large.   Tax is just about a system where politicians and bureaucrats   steal money from their citizens   to squander in the most disgraceful manner. This place is no exception.   Fascinatingly,   and I really don't know how you manage to keep a straight face when you're talking about tax evasion.   The whole commission and the commission bureaucracy   avoid their taxes.   You don't pay taxes like citizen pay taxes. You have all sorts of special deals,   composite tax rates,   high tax thresholds,   non contributory pension schemes.  

You are the biggest tax   avoiders in Europe, and here you sit pontificating.   Well, the message is getting home to the people of the European Union. You're gonna find that eurosceptics are coming back in June in ever greater numbers in ever greater numbers. And I can tell you worse, as the people get your number, it won't be long before they storm this chamber and they hang you and they'll be right.  

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Godfrey, you tell them.   You tell him. Holy crap. You ever heard that one before?  

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No. No. I was aware of that. It's  

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that. It's that communication that we're missing.   And it's it's absolutely right. And he's still alive.   Right? And we have to say this because I was listening to yeah. Yeah. He is. And he's he's great. I'd love to I've I've loved to get him on the show. I, you know, we're kind of,   in terms of scale here, we're great and everything but we're not as great as some of the places he gets invited on to. I'd love to get him on and talk to him because I just think he's,   he's frank and forthright and speaks it straight.   And, of course, that type of communication with that kind of intention behind it isn't is rarely if ever heard. You heard it here but it was not broadcast on TV in 2014   over here when it took place. You have to dig this stuff out.  

Right? So, you know, but and this, you can apply that speech in any   hall or corridor of power in the world.   In America, in England, in Germany,   this is the same over and over and over and over and over again.   Those people that are in charge are literally taking the piss out of us all the time   and they're gonna keep on doing it until we find the means   to ignore them to, you know, eject them from our lives. You know, Eric, you were talking about getting talking about usury, but I remember I I worked in this place in the eighties   and I was reminded of it strongly this week because I came across an interview with some of the key people there and I'd not heard from any of these people for, like, thirty years.  

And it was quite funny for me to listen to it. First of all, it was a highly intelligent conversation about,   about barriers that individuals have to actually performing well and all sorts of things. And it talked about such things as self sacrifice and being authentic and integrity. I know these are kind of buzzwords but it was going into great detail. It's wonderful conversation.   And it it kind of threw me into a funny sort of space as well because it just took me back like forty years and I went   I had a sort of time travel moment for about an hour which was interesting   but we,   at one point the organization tried to get involved in politics.  

I won't go into the details of that but one of the conversations about it was that what we needed as a party was the nationalists.   A party that believes in nothing and is gonna do nothing   and surely maybe something that is completely peaceable, I don't know, you'd even get on this, is to is a campaign to get everyone to never vote in anything ever again. Stop right now. Everything. Don't vote.   Stop it. It's because it's literally you putting the whole   the ring through your own nose   and then asking them to not pull it so hard.   But you put it through. What are you doing that for? Hey, Paul. Yeah. Paul.  



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Do you know what voting is?   Voting is it doesn't make any difference because you certainly they certainly wouldn't allow you to decide who they're gonna put in place.   The only thing voting does is it gives them an idea of how much of the public is completely befuddled   and fooled.   Why why tip your hand like that? Why tell them you're an idiot?  

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This is it doesn't make sense. Don't It doesn't. Don't vote. Your vote doesn't count anyway because if voting mattered, they wouldn't let you do it. No. It's a it's a terrible, terrible thing. It really is. And people you see, I and you must have Eric, I bet you've seen a lot of this with regards   to Farridge, the man that I hope does stay in his garage.   It's this is not a personal thing. It's not a personal thing against him. He's like I've said, I wouldn't mind going out having a beer with him. I think he looks like a lot of fun, but that's got nothing to do with it. The fact that people are actually putting their hopes in anyone,   in anyone at all in that space   is   is nuts.  

And, of course, by them admitting that, they've got to pull themselves away from the addiction or whatever word we want to use. This binding in that they've got like, if only we get the right people in.   These are the right people. They're gonna change it for us. God, these are the right people. It's really gonna work now.   Come on.   What do you do?   You just sat there going, how many more times do you wanna be bluffed at poker?   It's like it's like being bluffed at poker   every single time.   Every single time you get bluffed by a guy that's holding no cards and they're just wearing a better suit than you and they speak better and they say things and they're all glitzy and you just get hypnotized. You go oh he must have a better and you fold every single time. That's what this is like.   It's absolutely mad.  

It's completely mad. And of course they've got to get people to buy into the idea of all the mythologies that they've created   so that you feel as though you're part of this. It's like I mentioned here before you know,   in my view there was no such thing as the British Empire and what I mean by that is there was no big effort that was by, of and for the benefit   of your average British man and woman in the street.   They were plundered. They were used and abused in that process.   Maybe our living standards went up a bit, but it certainly wasn't because the Empire. It was because somebody invented steam engines or improved the, you know, reduced the cost of clothing. It was those things. There's probably some feedback from it. You know, I'm making a bit of a sweeping statement. But overall,   it's not an empire of the British. It was an empire of the city of London, of the usurers.  

It was a usury empire,   wasn't it? Yes. Wasn't it? Yes. Spot  

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on. And It just was. This is something, you   know well, this is something that's omitted   from our history all the time Mhmm. Totally.   And   people were just being brought up in total ignorance,   complete ignorance. And this is what angers me all the time. Everything. And the the social engineers that are genius job of it really have because,   they'll always,   label you as something ending with ist.   You know? You're this ist, that ist, that what's the ist, that whatever ist you wanna think of, you know?   And,   oh, it's   but I'm optimistic.  

I really am optimistic,   because   all it needs, I think that   this is   when you see how those people turned out in London because they were looking for hope,   they're grasping at any hope,   this might be now the time   to get on the bandwagon   and try and promote  

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knowledge of usury. Because that's just a case study. A series of steps, mechanisms, glue connections.   I mean, I don't know how many people that were there. I've seen the reports on the numbers. They're a joke. There were a huge number of people there. I don't know what it is, but it was a lot. It was certainly more than enough,   right, to create an impact in terms of the gathering. Everything you've said, Eric, regarding it's not gonna result in anything of substance, I completely agree with. But in the short term, what I would really like, I wasn't there. I needed a million cards saying tune into this show on Thursday because, you know, I'm a,   I'm I'm a marketing   twat or something like that. But if it's not me, it needs to be others like this. It's there's a gap. I think there's a gap in this sort of truth line. There's a huge number of people that have stepped over in this direction, but they've stopped stepping.  

It's a bit harsh for me to say that. It appears they've stopped stepping. It's more and more of the same stuff. Still, it's not this   the really rough stuff. What we're saying is this really is strong meat for men. You've got to absolutely get that your world is absolutely   destroyed already   and if we don't find a way to stop it, it's gonna roll over us. I mean, I just read a thing the other day. Right? You know this thing with and it's I'm coming back to money every time because it's the ultimate control mechanism on everything. If we don't overthrow the bank, the bank has overthrown our civilizations   absolutely   and people don't recognize this which is the problem we're dealing with. We need to get people to at least recognize it But of course, as you go into the conversation, a bit like Paul said when he called in, he's just getting nothing back from people. In most cases, unfortunately, right now that is gonna be the case.  

We have to find a way of overthrowing them.   Yeah. Paul.   Yeah. Paul.  

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The big the big thing is there are lots of people stepping into this arena. There are lots of people stepping over the line and asking questions,   but what they're finding out is it's a little scary to be on this side of the fence.   And   they come they have to make the decision whether they wanna stay where it's scary or go back where it's safe,   go back where they're a slave.   You know, it's gonna take some breasticles   and   nads   to be over on this side of the fence.   If that's the kind of person you are, come on down.  

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Pack a lunch. Stay the day, baby.  

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Yep. It's all there is.  

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Yeah. Well, the the digital currency thing is,   you know, we go super black pilled here. Vietnam,   apparently, last week, right, they shut down 82,000,000   bank accounts.  

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What for?  

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Well, because they could. I don't know what for. The mere fact that you can actually have the administrative power do that in real time.  

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You shut them down, and the only way people can reactivate them is to,   is to give up their biometric data.   Yep.  

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I know what they're saying. Fingerprints,  

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all that happy bullshit. Is that right? It's the only way they're gonna get their accounts back.  

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But they'll be safe, Paul, won't they? Toward biometric.   Paul, they're gonna be safe, though, because the government's gonna protect them now. It's a move  

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it's a move toward a cashless society.   There is absolutely   no anonymity   in buying and selling anymore,   or at least if they are allowed to go where they wanna go, that's the way it's gonna be.  

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Well, look what happened in Cyprus where they had,   people lost a percentage of their savings. The banks just the the government literally took it. That was it.   That happens when was it? About ten years ago in Cyprus? Oh, the billion.   Billion.   Last year.   Yes.  

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Yep.   Yeah. And that's coming that's coming to every bank around the globe. Trust me. About 20 ago, there was a woman called,  

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Annie Maccon. Do you remember her, Eric, from m o five?  

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And David Shaler. Yes. Oh, I remember her. Yes. Are they still around?  

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Well When David Shaler went a bit, Yeah. Yeah. I don't know why I'm here. He had problems, didn't he? Yeah. Well, they well, they're involved with the spooks. You're always gonna get a problem. They never let you you never want to spook, you know, I don't know.   Somebody sent me this the other day. I think it's from about fifteen years ago. You might think, well, it's got listen to this. This is just to do with this thing about power. This is about a minute and a half. I just, you know, I can't think of when ends I'm gonna play it, and now seems an appropriate time. We have,  

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a new eavesdropping law called regulation of investigatory powers act from 2000   which is supposed to be just for   agencies like MI five for example to   put a telephone tab on to investigate a terrorist case. Over 800 public bodies now use Ripper   to investigate people for a whole range of small civil infractions. So for example, a town council   might use this act to put a telephone tap to investigate someone to see if they are living in the house they say they are living in   for council tax purposes or whatever.   We've even had ridiculous cases where people who go and, fish for shellfish off the South Coast Of England are under surveillance under this   this very hard hitting piece of legislation purely to see if they're taking more than their quota of shellfish. It's just crazy and this was put in place to try and prevent you know protect us from terrorism. So you give them power they will abuse it that's a simple thing.  

We've also another law called the civil contingency act   which just went through parliament.   The media didn't kick up a fuss. The MPs didn't kick up a fuss. And the provisions of that basically say that any government minister can declare a state of national emergency.   And under that state of national emergency, there's no justification to parliament or anything. That's it. Any government minister? Any government minister can sign an authorization for a state of emergency.   And under that, they can quarantine us. They can stop us moving freely around our country.   They can stop people having,   the right of association, the right to have political meetings or whatever. They can even seize and demolish our homes and not pay us compensation because it's done in the name of national security.  



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Neat.   Yes. That's fifteen years ago. What was Years or so ago. Yep.  

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What what what was that   it it was   a collaboration   of multiple countries   where they did information sharing because   it's against most countries'  

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laws to spy on their own people. Five eyes, isn't it? Isn't it five eyes? Is that what you're talking about?  

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Five eyes. Yeah. I think it was five eyes.   So what they did, because it was against the law,   or severely frowned upon to spy on their own people, what they would do is they would have another one of the five eyes countries   spy on their people, and then they just do data sharing in the back end.   You know, The United States didn't spy on a citizen.   Israel did.   And then that information   just got passed back and forth through back No. It just shouldn't. I mean, that's about fifteen ridiculous.  

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It is. That's about fifteen years ago. Think what they're doing now with the digital stuff. We've got a caller anyway.   Oh, hell yeah. Here we do. Erica. Unplugged. I think it's Erica, isn't it? Hi. Welcome to the show. Hello. Hi.   Can you hear us okay?   Oh, just got muted again.   You're muted. We can hear you. We can hear you. We think.   Maybe I'm gonna have to get a new phone system, Paul. What do you think?  

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Okay. I don't know. It worked fine for me.  

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Oh, you were great. But you're here all the time. It's nice though that you were here all the time. I know. You like the show so much. You were chiming in on two channels. That's how keen you are. I I just love that.  

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But, I'm like a bad penny.   Yeah. You know, you you just can't get rid of me.  

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You're open to talk, caller.   If you say some if you make a sound.  

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Hello?  

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Coo wee.   Coo wee.  

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No audio detected, it says at the other end. Oh, I did hear a little word. Anyway, the chat we'll see if they come in. That that would be fine. But, yeah.   So there you go. Good job we don't live in Vietnam. Oh, hang on. Just a minute. We live in in, jolly old England.   But our government wouldn't do something to us like that, would it?  

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They love us really, don't they? They do love us. Of course. Oh, wait. Wait a minute. Maybe I can share something. If somebody comes into the other room and your computer or your smartphone   asks you if the site   can record audio, go ahead and say yes because   it just it just regards,   you know, using connecting the microphone to the room   Mhmm. As recording. You know, it's not gonna be recording your stuff. It's not big brother that's going to be listening forever.  

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But we will be. Okay. We we might have the call using the app. We might have the caller online. Hi. Channel's open.   Can you make a sound? Oh, no.   Are you there? You just went muted again. I I want Sound? Where's my gin?   I need some gin.  

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I don't know. I started out with beer and switched to buttermilk. I think I'm gonna switch back. I think what I'm discovering is it's it's actually beyond my pathetic little two limbed outfit here to,  

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multi stream to all these different things with all these screens open and handle the calls at the same time.   I was so jealous when I was on Fredericks show a few weeks ago, you know, they have a call handler there at the studio and they just say we've got so and so on the line and they just get patched straight through. That's really really cool.   If anybody wants the job,   free Fockem Hall pencil for anybody that might want the job. Okay? That's right. You get right close to the team. You'll be completely disruptive and get right in here. It would be great.  

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Yeah. You're probably gonna have to give them a box of pencils so they can wear a few of them out making notes on who's on line one. Mhmm. That's right.  

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Hi. Call her. You're on the show.   No. No. She's not on the show. I think I know who it is. I think you're right.  

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The first one came through. Okay. Is there a way for you to unmute it, Paul? Because I Yeah. Yeah. But keep some this is so  

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tedious for radio listeners. I'm sorry about all this, but, yeah. I'm gonna have to look at something different. I don't know what's going on, but, basically, they come in on mute, and then it auto mutes   or whatever. I can unmute them, but it we don't get any sound.   I can do that now.   Can you hear me? Yeah. We can hear you now. Look at that. Hello. Hi.   Hi, Erica. Hi. It is Erica. Right? It is.   Yes. I mean, I go by a stage name of Etta, but yes, Erica. Okay. So I never said that. Hi, Etta. Hi. Welcome to the show. We let it that bit out. Okay. Sorry about that.  

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Okay. Are you with America?  

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Thank you for providing us. Are you called it? Yes. I am.  

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Ah, I thought so by the accent.  

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Yeah. I I've known her for quite a few years, Eric. Just to let you know, we were talking just the other day. How are you?   I'm very well. How are you? Yeah. We're good. We're having a lot of fun here talking about banking in Germany,   and, you know, all the lovely light stuff that we like to talk about around here.  

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Right. Exactly. Those are my favorite subjects. So   I've been listening and I tried both of your chats, so,   they're both good. And I think this is a great service you guys are providing for all of us in the public, and   I just wanted to,   let you guys know I'm enjoying this channel, and  

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I'm glad you're glad you're all here. That's great. I I only sent you 10 to call in and do that, didn't I? That's not bad.   I won't tell anybody, but I can't pay much more. That's about it, really. But no. That's it's great, Etta, that you called in. Sorry for blowing your cover. Oh, dear. Won't know if Maybe No. No. That's fine. That's okay.   Yeah. Well, by the way office. Etta, when will   wonder pencil. Yeah. When we get press h one t together,   we'll send you a Fock'em Hall wonder pencil.   It looks like a normal pencil,   but it's not. It's full of wonder. There's extra ingredients of wonder have been put into the pencil   and you can use it for all sorts of things, even writing. You can even write with it. You might need your own pencil strap, but that comes extra. The pencil strap is $50. Yeah. But,   yeah. We we might get you we've gotta get these Cracker Jack sorry, Fockem Hall pencil things sorted out. Oh, there's so much to do with it, isn't there around here? There is. I would definitely I would I would definitely buy one. So just let me know when they're available. Oh, excellent. Oh, marvelous.  

And everybody out there in radio land, you'd go into it, wouldn't you? You would. That's it. Yeah. Absolutely.   Yeah. And you'd you'd know that we would all have one of those pencils behind our ears during the show making notes like engineers. That's what we're gonna be doing. We gotta conjure up that picture of those little stubby pencils, and we're licking them all the time and and all that kind of stuff. So we'll get you a pencil letter. We will get you a pencil. Trying to appear to be studious. That'd be great.   Yeah. That's right. That's right. We are studious. We're very serious minded over here. We we have to be. It's it's important.  



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Study. How long are these Okay. Once you guys get back to it, I'll be in the studio. Three and four inches. Wanted to let you know that I'm enjoying the show. You guys are doing a great job. That's great. That's cool. It's lovely to hear hear from you. Thank you. We'll hear from you again. No doubt. Brilliant. Thanks for calling in. Super good. Bye for now. There you go.   Bye  

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bye. Thank you, Edda. Well, it's so a bit of working bad. Anyway, we're getting there. Now where were we?   What time is it? I'm gonna look at the clock. Oh, good. Well, if you look carefully at the end of the hour. We're nearly at the end of this hour. Oh, we're nearly at the end of the hour.   What do I do now? Oh, I've gotta press a button. You're gonna say you're gonna say goodbye. I've gotta play a song. I don't even have a song lined up. That's what I know if I am this week. I really don't, you know. I was gonna play You've Gotta Pick a Pocket or Two   by Ron Moody   from the musical Oliver, but I can't play it because I hate it.  

I can't stand it. I can't stand musicals and I hate Oliver  

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because it I just can't Oh, you as well? Oh, I I can't tolerate. It's sound of music. Someone's walking down the road and start and do you remember when Les Dawson decided to try it out and did a sound dance act in the middle of Leeds at rush hour? And there's people effing them blind to get him. So get out of Wagga's soppy.   But no. I can't stand mood, of course.  

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Come on. Give us a song request. Anything you want me to play that that won't get banned out of the thing. Come on. Look look at what an oath I am tonight. Here we are talking about What about Charlie and his orchestra? What about Charlie and his orchestra? I think I've only got one.   I think I've only got oh, I don't have that.   I don't have that. Okay. I've only got the one on the system here, which is the man with the big singing. I will play that. We're gonna play that. Yeah. Okay? Because it's a great song, so we're gonna do that. Thanks everybody for being with us here on, WBN three two four. We'll be back again at the same time next week. We're carrying on for another hour if you just can't get enough and let's face it you probably can't. So if you need to listen to any more,   because it's the middle of the American afternoon and you're bored and you've drunk too much coffee, hop on over to paulenglishlive.com   and you can connect up with us on Rumble or YouTube. We're live there with a very lively chat. Shout out to everybody there. I am watching it but so busy dealing with the calls and everything. Good grief.  

But, yeah. So we're gonna play out now with a little song. We'll be back again same time next week and everybody who's still online will be back after Charlie and his orchestra. And this is a song about oh you'll work it out. You've probably already heard it before but it's still very very good. We'll see you in a couple of minutes time.  

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Who is that   man with the big cigar?   Whose greatest friend   is the USSR?   He's known   around from near and far.   That actor man   with the big cigar.   He pops away every night and day where the twinkle in his eye. And all the while behind that smile lurks many an untold light down white hallway.   You'll see his car.   He's here, He's there.   He's everywhere. The friend   of   the   USSR.   V   stands for vanquished.   It's the slogan of his land.   And he'll fight until   the red flag lion,   no hammered black and blue,   for he's getting more than he bargained for, that fat friend of the dew.   So keep your chins up one and all and remember what I say.  

If Britons were to have Britain through they'd send that man away. Who is that man   with a big cigar?   He's here. He's there. He's everywhere.   That man with a big cigar.  

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I have to get another Charlie and his Orchestra tune everybody. I do understand that.   Oh, I don't know what that was.   We'll have to get another one. I've got loads of them actually, but they're just not moved over to the correct system and you don't need to know that because that's very dull. But I told you anyway because I didn't know quite what to say. Anyway, Eric, Paul, Patrick, welcome back to Yes. The final hour of the show. The final hour, whatever that might mean, of this show anyway.  

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We're we're more more more suave, you know, on on on the on the channel you come on to, you know, to serve. Because I've I've actually got Charlie's orchestra,   Bye Bye Empire. I said, yeah.  

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My favorite is Macon Whoopi.  

[02:01:16] Unknown:

Yes. Well, by then That's a that's a good one. By Charlie and his Orchestra. Yeah. I've probably got it somewhere. Well, I've already got them over to the proper system. I've I've got them on a Make them on a live link, but it'll break up. I know it'll break up if I try and play it. So I'll we'll get that sorted out. But yeah.   Fantastic. And shout out to Alice Gorgeous in the, in the chat. Thanks very I haven't seen it yet, but she was telling me about a speech. We can't play it today because he's eleven minutes long. So I need to hear it first. Lord Blackheath's   parliamentary   speech. That sounds great. Lord Blackheath.  

So I look forward to picking that up. Yeah. I'll pick that up and,   she says he speaks to the embezzlement of trillions.   Good. That's about the size of it, isn't it? It must be trillions. Blackheap?   Black Heap. Lord Black Heap. Black Heap.  

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Yeah. Lord Black Heap. Black Heap.  

[02:02:06] Unknown:

Yeah. Be something different. No. Lord Black Heap's the other guy.   He's the other guy. What a marvelous name. Alice Gorgeous. Isn't that a nice name, Alice? It's a gorgeous name, really, Alice. We all think it's extremely gorgeous.   Yes. Because it is gorgeous, isn't it? It couldn't be anything else. Anyway, where was I until I started pressing all the wrong buttons and we all went a little bit hay wire?   I don't know. Princess Alice Gorgeous of Fockem. That'd be nice, wouldn't it? It's a nice title. Yeah. We're gonna you know what? You're gonna have to get some kind of administrator in at Fockem Hall to actually sort out all these titles and deeds and honors Yes.   And roles, and they need to receive a scroll in the post with a wax seal and one of those red ribbons around it, and your dirty That's an ollie. Thumbprint on it. Yeah. And it's got to be delivered by a little urchin who knocks at their door. Yes, sir. He's called Tom or Bob or something like that and he's got and, when the people receive it, they're allowed to give him a smart clip around the ear for no good reason whatsoever just to That's right. Knows what's what. Right? And they they signed they signed that they received it with a fog and wonder pencil. Yeah. Absolutely. That's the thing. Yeah. Nobody expects the Spanish inquisition.  

This is true.   Nobody expects that. I didn't expect it either.   No. Where's my tablets?   Yes. Now, where was I? I was just talking about that guy, Shacked, which is quite an appropriate name really because he did Shacked all over things actually. But,   Yes. What was it here? I wasn't gonna labor on this too long, but there was an interesting thing about him.   Yeah, so basically they did their own deal   and they ran everything without that. It says these facts do not appear in any textbooks today since, the publishing companies are owned by a particular group of people.   What does appear is the disastrous runaway inflation suffered in 1923.  

Now they did a documentary about that over here years ago, Eric. I don't know if you saw that. Literally, they got footage, haven't they, with the wheelbarrows load of of marks and people getting paid in the morning.   They got paid twice or three times a day because the inflation rate was so insane. The prices were changing by the hour in the shops. Nobody could buy anything. It was nuts. I went I went to school with a teacher  

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who was actually in Germany when that happened.   Mhmm. And he was at university in Germany when that when they had mass mass inflation.   I mean, he'd be dead by now.   But,   no. He he was one of these contract teachers that came in. I think he's close to retirement.   And,   he came in and did history with us for two weeks,   and it was one of the most interesting two weeks I think I've had at school. Right. Bloody good he was. He really knew his stuff. And he went to, Hoover Dam Yep. And, he toured around. And,   during the war, he was in the RAF   in Burma,   and they amalgamated with the United States   Air Army Air Force.  

And on the last day that he was there, it was all sad that he's going.   He said,   I can't remember exact words because it was a long time ago, but he said the American and British Air Force   strapped anything in Japan that moved. And it didn't matter whether it was Red Cross or anything, and that came down from high office to terrorize   the,   civilians.   And he said, you won't hear that in history books.   No? And he said some of the words similar to I can't remember it, but it's like, never believe what you're officially told.  

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Remember that and you might go far wrong. You've walked out. Well, I think that's a pretty good grand rule and I think here we we've really got a lot of that going on, haven't we? We really I I hopefully, the culture here is to question everything and be a skeptic on everything.   By the way, Alice Gorgias, who gets a lot of mentions purely because her name is Alice Gorgias. Maybe that's a hint to everybody else's. No. I understand. Lovely name because we like saying a lot. Yeah.   And when we were talking about the urchin delivering the documents, she's written that he must doff his cap to me.   And so we will we'll put special instructions, Alice, that that's exactly what he's gonna do. And if there's no doffing going on, you let us know, and we'll give him a clip around the other ear.  

Yeah. These Yes. Opposite little urchins. The official narrative.  

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The official narrative   is the first lie.  

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Mhmm. And also no woggle hopping. Now do you know what a woggle hopping is? I'm keen. I'm all ears, Eric. What is a woggle hopping? Woggle hopping was   a Boy Scouts used to wear a woggle, which is like a sort of a tie, I believe. Yeah. And they used to, and they used to,   pole vault over well, not pole vault. They used to hop over,   letterboxes.   Right. That showed you how fit they were. I couldn't do it. Like, I couldn't do it when I was young, but and I got over a letterbox. That was in the Edwardian times when they first started. They called it woggle hopping.  

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I love our 10 gentle clap chats, don't you, when we go off? I'm trying to keep track of you, but that was brilliant because you've actually I just went out for a walk today as as is my want prior to the show down to the beach and back. Did 30 press ups, by the way, down in the beach house. I've decided this is a good place to do it. Yeah. I thought if anybody comes along, it we'll all be embarrassed and it'll look odd, this sort of middle aged guy do it. But that was quite easy, fun to do. It was good. Anyway, on my way back, there's a postbox.   Now in England, we have these red postbox made out I don't know what the matter cast iron, is it? They're fantastic things. I love it. I think it is. Yeah. Yeah. They're great. And, of course, they're removing all those. And the one that's here, just at the end of the street, there's only a pickup I think it's it used to be three times a day, then it down to twice. It might now be down to once, like 09:30 in the morning. So,   they've taken it all out. There's a notice over it. It said, this is gonna be replaced by an automatic digital post box.  



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Of course, I What the hell was that?  

[02:07:52] Unknown:

More electro junk. I'm sick of it. I'm really   I'm puking about all these things. I hate it. I want the Same here. If they get rid of the postie, I, you know, the postie is the best thing about the post office. I talk to them all.   Right? Because you see them regularly on the morning. I'm sorry. Yeah. And when they And they're nice people.   They're all nice people, I found. They're great. They're really good. I always wanna talk to them. A bit wet. How's it going? Sunny today. Just normal piffle chat. It's just great. It's just to make contact with people. It's really good.   So anyway, there we go. So I'll keep you posted  

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on that one.  

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Oh, dear. The old ones are still the worst ones. Anyway, here's this little point I wanted to make about Halma   Halma Schacht.   He says this, in reality, the Weimar financial crisis   began with the this is the one in the early twenties,   began with the impossible   by design,   reparations payments imposed at the Treaty of Versailles 1919,   of which 90% of the attendees came from the same group of people that run the banking system.   Hjalmar Schacht, the Rothschild   agent who was currency commissioner for the Republic,   opposed letting the German government print its own money.  

But you did I didn't know that until I read this the other day. You see he swings both ways to Schacht. He's a bit of a wifter.   He,   they also forced him into allowing them to do that because he's remember at the time he's also working with Montague Norman to set up the Bank of International Settlements to get all that going because that's their big game, you know, so they're having to go through all these phases.   Says, the Treaty of Versailles is a model of ingenious measures for the economic destruction of Germany. Germany could not find any way of holding its head above the water other than by the inflationary expedient   of printing banknotes.  

Schacht echoes the textbook lie   that Weimar inflation was caused when the German government printed its own money. However, in his 1967   book, The Magic of Money,   Schacht I didn't know he'd written that. 1967,   he was still kicking around. Schacht let the cat out of the bag by revealing that it was the privately owned Reichsbank, not the German government, that was pumping new currency into the economy. Thus, the private bank, well, well, well, I never,   caused the Weimar hyperinflation.   And for those who have just joined this conversation, I don't mean literally now, but recently or whatever, just to let you know, the Bank of England is a privately owned banking cartel. It's a haven of monetary   spivs.  

That's what it is. Yes. Right? You don't own it, they own you because they own the bank. Any people that allow a private group   to run their banking system are stuffed. That's you and me, everybody. Just to let you know, in layman's terms, we've got we've got to really get this across. It's absolutely important,   really important. It says, like the US Fed,   Reichsbank was overseen by appointed government officials like the front, you know, but was operated for private gain. Well, I never.   I've never heard of such a thing.   What drove the wartime inflation into hyperinflation was speculation by foreign investors who sold the mark short, betting on its decreasing value. In the manipulative device known as the short sale, speculators   borrow something they don't own, sell it, and then cover by buying it back at the lower price.  

All of this stuff just needs to be stopped.   It just needs to be thrown in the toilet.   The whole lot. All of it. I agree. Shorts, futures, stock exchanges, all this kind of stuff. They need to be so tight. Right? The minute you start sort of bending the rules, you're in prison. Seriously, it's the most dangerous disease in the whole world, I think. It's just it affects everybody.   So there we go.   So according to Schacht, he was clear the German government did not cause it. He was a Rothschilds agent blah blah blah blah blah blah and that went on and there's a whole series of little quotes here. So let's go through them. Some of them you'll have heard but permit me to issue and control the money of a nation and I care not who makes its laws. That's Mayor Amschel Rothschild.   Here's one from Archibald Moll Ramsay from the Nameless Wall, one of our favorite guys around here. Debt, he writes, particularly international debt   is the first and overmastering   grip. Through it,   men in high places are suborned,   and alien powers and influences are introduced into the body politic.  

When the debt grip has been firmly established, control of every form of publicity and political activity soon follows   together with a full grip on industrialists.   That's the world you live in, everybody. I'm sure many of you know this, but,   but it's just really important. And now here's one from Pound himself. He is the feature of the show, even though we've not said a great deal about him. He says   this, history   as seen by a monetary economist   is a continuous struggle between producers   and non producers   and those who try to make a living by inserting a false system of bookkeeping   between the producers   and their just recompense.  

The usurers act through fraud, falsification,   superstitions,   habits, and when these methods do not function,   they let loose a war.   Everything hinges on monopoly, and the particular monopolies hinge around the great illusionistic monetary monopoly.   That's from Pounder, an introduction to the economic nature of The United States. And that's about a 20 page document, which I can't read out today, but I've got on screen. It's a little bit too long. I'm gonna just copy and paste it into the chats for those that want to get a copy. If you do a search,   you oh, hang on. You will find it.  

So yeah. That's that's pound.   Next one. What's the next one?   That's worth a read. We're nearly at the end of these little things. Oh, there's another one from,   yeah, there's another one from William Simpson, the guy that wrote Which Way Western Man.   This is a good one. The day came when, little by little, I began to be aware   that the money system had moral and spirituals.   I discovered deliberate deception and betrayal and a purpose to ruin and to enslave.   I discovered that for centuries it had had a steadily growing power of enormous significance   in sidetracking and ditching the normal and natural development of the Western world,   doing monstrous wrong and causing fathomless suffering.  

It was only then that I began to be aroused,   and I should contend that if I now level my lands against the evil of our money system,   against the injury to our life it has caused, I am no more out of my proper place than I was in holding up the injury and menace   of our unbalanced birth rate, or of our industrial system, or of the dogma of racial equality.   Indeed, in matters of this kind, I should hold that every informed citizen who has a conscience and is loyal to his people   has an inescapable   duty to speak out and to act.   That's us lot here. That's us here behind the mics at this end, and that's you lot out there.  

You have an inescapable   duty to speak out and to act. So there you go. Your mission, should you accept it, is to get gobby, as we've said around here,   for some time. There's one last one. I do like that one. Oh, no. There's one from William Joyce, which is brilliant, but it's a little bit too long. He absolutely nails it.   Then there's one from,   Patrick and Paul will be familiar with this. Congressman Lewis T McFadden, who just said nothing but brilliant things for most of his life about hammering at the banking   system. How about this one? I like this quote this guy. This is a good one. This is from   Doctor   Frederick Soddy, s o d d y, an English chap. He worked with Rutherford.  

Yeah. You see, you can't an unfortunate name. But he wrote a book on banking, when he wasn't splitting the atom with Rutherford.   He worked with Rutherford on splitting the atoms.   What are you doing this afternoon, darling? Well, I'm a bit bored with splitting atoms. I'm gonna just study the banking system and he did and he wrote a book about it. It's pretty difficult to read. I have to tell that the language is pretty pretty testing. It's called wealth,   virtual wealth and debt, but here's a good quote from him. He says this,   our money our money system   is nothing better   than a confidence trick.  

The money power which has been able to overshadow ostensibly responsible government   is not the power of the merely ultra rich   but is nothing more or less than a new technique to destroy money   by adding and withdrawing figures in bank ledgers without the slightest concern for the interests of the community or the real role money ought to perform therein.   To allow it to become a source of revenue to private issuers   is to create first a secret and illicit arm of government and last   a rival power strong enough to ultimately overthrow all other forms of government   as Liz Truss said about half an hour ago when I played that quote.  

This is in 1926.   This stuff has been well known and buried and is continuing to be buried and we're unearthing it momentarily in this show.   Woodrow Wilson's quote from him about the fact that you're completely controlled by a system of credit.   And is there another one here worth three? I'll read yeah, here's the last one from, no more quotes for a bit and then I'll be I'll pipe down. This is from Archibald Moll Ramsay in the Nameless War', he says this,   though the British public was kept in total ignorance as to the true significance of what was taking place in Spain,   two countries in Europe were alive to the situation. He's referencing the Spanish Civil War. Okay?  

Germany and Italy had each, in their turn, experienced the throes of communist revolution,   and emerged victorious over the foulest of earthly plagues.   They knew who had financed and organized the international brigades,   And with what fell purpose, Barcelona   had been declared   had been, declared in October   1936,   the capital of the Soviet states of Western Europe. I didn't know that. Did you know that?   Barcelona.   There you go. 1936.   At the critical moment, they intervened in just sufficient strength to counter the International Brigade   and enable the Spanish people to organize their own army, which in due course easily settled the matter.  

That that settled the matter that is to say as far as Spain was concerned. There was however another settlement to come. International Jewry had been seriously thwarted. They would not rest henceforward until they could have their revenge.   Until they could, by hook or crook, turn the guns of the rest of the world against these two states, which in addition to thwarting their designs in Spain, were in the process of placing Europe upon a system   independent of gold and usury, which if permitted to develop   would break the money power forever.  

This is why the Nameless War by Archibald Moll Ramsey is a 110 pages, should be in all of your libraries. And if you haven't read it yet, please get hold of a copy. You can find it online, the Nameless War   Archibald Moll Ramsey. It's, you know, I've read these things so many times, but a year goes by when I've not read them. And when I read them again, they're just like   they burn right into your head again. They're fantastic, really. Fantastic stuff.  

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Evergreen Books because what they were saying then, as I've said before,   is as relevant today as it was then. Mhmm. We haven't sorted the problem out, and that is a sad sad   sad face. And when you see these people prancing along in London, you think, what a waste of time. If only they knew the truth.   If only.   Yeah. And that's basically it.   You know?   But,   we did say during the break, about   Churchill's   bunker. I I worked with a bloke whose father was a projectionist   in Churchill's bunker. Yeah. And this bloke said that,   Churchill was extremely arrogant to people, which he came across as that, but he farted a lot, apparently. So there we go. There's a little bit of inside news. Isn't that amazing? Is there some link then? Do you think there's some tenuous link between arrogance and farting? Is that what you're saying?  

It could be. You never know.  

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So whenever someone so whenever someone loses control in that department, you can say arrogant bastard. Is can you say that? Yeah. Is that acceptable? Yes.  

[02:20:12] Unknown:

Yes. You could say that. Yes.   Or, you know, or what normally happens when someone breaks when you sort come in vigor. That's what they used to say, isn't it?   Yeah.  

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Getting back to this issue of getting these messages across, which is really   the core   challenge,   maybe it's more than that. Maybe, you know, are we just, you know, I I don't know, maybe I mentioned it last week and maybe you think it too.   Is there just something inherently within human nature that makes it   his history seems to show this.   Inordinately difficult, virtually impossible to communicate   these really vital truths to the layman in such a way that they don't react, punch you in the nose,   or literally leave the conversation. Is there a way to do it? Because   I I tell you, I literally pray to find it.  

I want to know. It's almost as if, oh, I just say these three sentences,  

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turn round, do a pirouette, and they'll get it. I want something like that. That's sad. Well, look at my look look at my suit. My my my the what I had on the this stall holder,   he just could not get usury. I explained it as simple as possible. Just couldn't get it. It shook me.   You know? Why what was it that you couldn't get?   And,  

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it Get it your sicko. Go  

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yeah. Well, it was a bit like that. Yes. I know.  

[02:21:37] Unknown:

Look, you clothied fool. Listen to me, smack. Is is enough to make you look for the nearest two before to whack people around their head? I'm going to literally knock this into your brain. You can't.   It's just I'm talking guff, by the way. It's just an expression of my frustration at times around this one.   It's extremely challenging. It really is. It's a psych is it a psychological group psycho,   mass psychosis problem? It seems to me that it is. It taps into this. This It does seem to be like that. Yeah.   Yeah. And the pattern, unfortunately, is set at school, isn't it? I mean, do we need to set up a school   or some sort of learning aids for eight year olds? I'm serious. Do we? Yes. Is that what is that what's needed?  

Apparently, the ages of seven to 14   are very very important in the life of all young adults.   They're they're they're when you're kind of in the realm of the imagination more fully than most people will ever be after the age of 14 or 15.   Some people retain it. Some people never ever lose it but they are generally in the minority. But huge numbers of people end up on a sort of autopilot setting. They're very nice and decent, they're good and they're law abiding kindly and I like them a lot,   just in general terms.   But when there's this sort of lack of skepticism that's missing,   or this lack of curiosity,   or this willingness to accept what the well dressed lying politic political git of the day is saying,   You go,   oh, oh, how do we how are we gonna deal with that? You know, we need the communication equivalent of an atom bomb that doesn't wear the communicator out whilst you're doing it.  

Do we have to create a herd momentum? I mean, you know, is that the case? Is it that the the good things have always sort of reconnected up? It's,   you know,   viewing what happened in Germany politically and from a communications point of view and how they did things,   I I suspect that if they'd not actually pulled off of the monetary system in the way that they did, the chances are that World War two wouldn't have happened.   However, they wouldn't have recovered and become strong anyway. So, you know, they just used their brains to see that they did not need   an independent gold market to actually determine the value of their own work. So they kicked it out, and we don't need it either.  

But everyone here no one's gonna hear these ideas from any English politician   ever. And they can't. I mean, I'm not even picking on them. They can't say it. So isn't that that the system   is working perfectly   from their point of view? Is is doing exactly what it's supposed to do? Yeah. It's keeping people hopeful that if we get the right people in   and,   no, the red team are much better now than the blue team. What about the green team? Oh, those weirdos. All this, that, and the other. You've got all these ideologues and running around and pushing their stuff.   I've got one last little thing to read here which kicks off, which is not directly on money but it is to do with this little theme of getting an idea across. I just this is from a blog I've mentioned before that the author passed away a few years ago,   but the full site is still up. It's a site called cambriawillnotyield.com   and this is just the opening paragraph from an article he wrote in 2012   called the rulers of Babylon and of course Babylon is the home of fractional reserve banking or at least is where usury patterns were first laid down as far as we know.  

There's some you know Babylonian banking system which is really what we're still enduring unfortunately to this day.   This is just the opening paragraph.   He says this,   for nearly a century now the European people have been ruled by liberals.   What can we say about them? Certainly nothing good.   They are the most inhuman,   cruel, tyrannical people that have ever walked the earth, and yet the Liberals do not see themselves as cruel inhuman tyrants.   Why don't they see what is obvious?   They don't see the obvious because they have reduced all of life to an abstraction.   They never see individual human beings suffering terribly   under their regimes   because they have only an abstract   idea of humanity that they lovingly caress in their own minds.  

They desire to help an abstract concept of the people, which to them is all humanity,   and to reap the applause of the people for their great benevolence.   What I would call bloody do gooders, right? He goes on he says, so the Liberals keep helping   their abstract generic people,   while opposing all the enemies of the people,   and those enemies   are the real flesh and blood human beings that inhabit the Earth.   Any appeal, this is the key bit, any appeal to the Liberals compassion   from non liberals will not only fail,   it will bring the wrath of the liberals upon the appellant   because the liberals do not want anyone to challenge their abstract ideal of humanity   and their vision of themselves   as the great benefactors   of humanity.  

I think that's a key thing. This is why, you know, Eric, when we talk about the left Yes. They're maniacs.   They are so violent, and they can't see They are.  

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So far. Well, they can't also   they are city folk, and I've got nothing against people who live in cities,   but they're city folks that are totally impractical. They're practical   people telling practical people what to do.   If they wanted to prove that it's possible to hang out an elephant over a cliff with its tail tied to a daisy,   they would get,   their payoff scientists to prove that that you can do it, which, of course, we all know you can't do. But that is the way they think. They think, oh, of course, an elephant could hang off a cliff with its tail tied to a daisy. You know, it's illogical, but they turn it into logical.   Yeah. And they do it in a way which is condescending.  

And I think this is the biggest problem is these   city impractical   city types that I've never had experience in the countryside   do not now understand real life.   And that that's it. When you look at them, most of them live in crap out crap areas of of of cities.   Yeah. You know, I don't know They they should have some sort of cultural  

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exchange program for city folk to go out to the farms.   Like,   you know, trade trading places   Yeah. Type of thing.  

[02:27:58] Unknown:

Yeah. It's a possibility. Yeah.   Yeah.  

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Host host like   have host families   on farms   and and hire workers from the cities to come   pick vegetables or milk cows or any of that kind of stuff.   It's just I bet they I bet they do. It's just not common. But you're right, the city people don't really have any sort of clue   what it's like to be on a farm,   you know, raising animals, raising crops, that kind of thing. It would be good for them to do that.   Because it seems like half of humanity lives in a city, the rest live out in the country.   And if it weren't for either of them, we wouldn't have civilization like we do now.   So,   and we need to go into a system like the Bank of North Dakota, which is mostly rural and rustic farmers with large tracts of land and and   they don't have the usury   that   they do in other banking systems. Like Stephen Mitford Goodson said about North, the Bank of North Dakota, if it wanted to it could print its own currency.  

In effect it can't, it does in the fact that it gives out loans and   can give out loans without any interest   because it's run by the government.  

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Well, you you at least got a bank over there, Patrick, that demonstrates   that's got more than one foot in the right place. Let's put it that way.   I mean, that's it, you know. Basically, the Bank of North Dakota needs to be rolled out. That model needs to be rolled out across the whole of The United States and the whole of Western Europe. In a way, it's nothing new, but it it actually does exist at the moment. Do they just leave it alone? It's interesting. Obviously, they leave it alone at the moment. I'm sure if it became a serious problem.  

[02:29:44] Unknown:

Okay. I I listen to podcasts and sometimes I hear commercials like a lot of gambling type stuff, you know, sports betting. And then I'll hear these these loan shark type organizations and they'll say valid in every state except for North Dakota. And it's like, yeah, well that's because   they don't want that riffraffing and you don't have to if you're a citizen of North Dakota, you you can get a bank account in the North Dakota State Bank and Yeah. Get loans.  

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Then Yeah. We should just shut down gambling and casinos and online advertising for it. She's just all we go, oh, this is a bit repressive. Yeah. And? What's your point exactly?   We we won't mind living in civilization. We thought it might be worth giving it a go whilst we're still alive, you know.   It is, you know. It's a I heard Maleficar Scott Scott was on last night with Shelley. Great show it was. Really good. And they were talking about,   Maleficar has mentioned this thing about Germany, the two things they did when he first came into power. First of all, shut down the usurers,   and secondly, banned all pornography.  

Yes, please.   Let's do it. Because those things are chewing up the substance of people.   That's why we've got this   listless,  

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Well, they were in the same circle of hell according to Dante in his poem, The Inferno.   The usurers and the Sodomites.   Mhmm. And they were making what was fertile infertile, which was sodomy, and then making what was infertile fertile, which is money.   Lent had interest.  

[02:31:09] Unknown:

Yeah. It's just running against the laws of nature and through the black magic of usury, they've managed to be able to warp the entire system of life.   It's just this disease that runs through everything.   Cheery show tonight, isn't it everybody? I hope you're feeling a bit chipper.  

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Yeah.   Well, the question is what are we gonna do about it?   Talk. What can we do about it? I'm just gonna talk more. Yeah. That is right.  

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For today today, between now and going to bed, I'm gonna just do a little bit more talking or you can do some talking. We got twenty eight minutes left on the show. We gotta talk. We gotta still keep trying communication approaches that work. Maybe I need to go and hang out with some psychologists. I mean, seriously, I was thinking of it today. I thought, look, I need to understand about group psychological behavior,   because I need I like the new show on Saturday. You said that we're gonna have a new show on Saturday, so let's do it. I I I like that. The morning Yeah. We are. Yeah. We'll get together and talk. It will be this Saturday but we're planning we're planning to do a big messy show on Saturdays everybody. We're gonna we're gonna test it anyway and see if it's a good time slot. So the time slot that we've got lined up is be three hours. It's gonna be   a multi voice thing with people possibly coming in for fifteen and twenty minutes and disappearing that kind of thing, including you. We'd love you to to come in and do stuff and I'll really look at the phone system, although Paul's gonna be involved technically with this so probably gonna run a bit better than me and my big fat fingers but,   04:00 till seven four p. M. To seven p. M. In The UK.  

We thought this would be quite good because it should give everybody time to end up and then you can all go and eat your chilli. Well, I'll be eating mine because I've been in the slow cooker all day or whatever you've had.   And in The in The States that's eleven a. M. To two p. M. Eastern,   which is what eight a. M. To eleven   a. M. Pacific time. So we we cover that sort of time   that time space.   And Eric, you and I would be talking at a sensible time instead of late at night when we're all, you know,   irritable.   Entirely. Is he gone? Have you gone, Eric? Has he disappeared again? Where's he gone? Where's he gone? You still   there?  



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Oh, well. I don't know. I don't think I don't I don't think he's there.  

[02:33:20] Unknown:

He's gone. He just he fell into the stage. There he is. Eric. No. No. What happened? I got I got booted out the studio like like we used to happen with rumble and,   I've I've logged back in again.   She just went, you know, just don't know why. Just   yeah. I'm I'm sorry. Sitting there and it was  

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It may be that you're a troublemaker. Sobbing.   You could be a troublemaker, Eric.   It could be. Yes. Yes. Anyway, I was just saying we just actually, you didn't miss much. I was just thinking I was just saying, if we do given that we do it, it won't be this Saturday because I'm trying to I I think we we would really stand good if we can just get a bit of marketing going and get the word out a bit before we do it. You know, really build it up and then if we fall flat in our face it'll be hilarious.   I think it'd be really funny.   But there's loads of different channels. I can stick it out on both of my Rumble and YouTube channel. We can stick it on all the other channels that we've got and just see how far we could get it distributed   And, also trying to pull an array of, returning voices like Eli, like possibly Monica and Frederick Blackburn,   because, Frederick and Monica, they have a show later on on the Saturday.  

Not a good time for UK listeners, like midnight and 01:00 in the morning, this sort of time.   But it didn't matter. It's sort of a transatlantic   trash talk,   something like that. I don't know what we're gonna call it. But,   yeah. And we might play a bit of music, and also I could announce the football scores, Eric, about 05:00. The UK football scores which is gonna be so exciting because we love football over here,   but it will be a piss take of football scores. You can you can imagine because it's,   so that's it. We'll make it last all of forty five seconds if that until people  

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And we've got a score coming in now. Arsenal one.   Spurs lost. Sorry. That that would be   sorry.  

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There's also yeah. That's that. Yeah. I always remember the Monty Python football scores. Do you remember those?   What was it? Now over to football room. Blackburn, nil. Liverpool, nil. Manchester United, nil. Bolton,   nil. Leeds,   nil.   Southampton, nil. Nil. Nil. It was just everything was nil nil nil. Faith, nil nil nil. I don't know why I bloody bother.   Who cares? Actually, the only football reporting you ever need to do is Oh, awesome. Thank you. Hi, there's been loads of football matches played today and maybe your team was one of them. Your team either won or lost or achieved a draw. Many teams won, many teams lost and some of them draw. This will be exactly the same next week. Don't cry too much if you lost and don't drink too much beer if you won. Same results next week. That's it. I could just record it. We just play it the same every week because it's meaningless.   Maybe you guys have been keeping them with abusive scores and thing. I mean, any US sports being played at that time on a Saturday. Sports betting.  



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It's all about sports betting. If it if it's not about anything, it's, you know, you got money on the game. That's why anybody pays attention to these things.   At at least when you get to the top  

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top Well, maybe, you know, maybe, Ariel, we need to serve the Fockem hole bookies.  

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Hey. What do you think? Should we come to revs? Tic Tac Men as well. Yes. Yeah. Tic Tac Men. Yeah. Do you remember that time when they used to send films from American   horse racing   over to Britain, and people used to bet on the horse racing? This is long before Internet and that that type of thing. Do you do you remember that time? They used to play them in clubs, didn't   they? That's it. Yes.   And people lost lots of money over it as well.  

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It's just mad.   It's just mad. Yes. It's mad. Well, look, if you think about it, Paul, a lot of these,  

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org news organizations like Reuters,   they they make their money off these stock market, you know, information   exchanges and things. They're setting up, you know, relays where like you pay them a subscription and you get all the latest stock market   data that coming in and you pay a higher subscription and you get a few split seconds sooner than everybody else does.   And that's how they're making their money. That's what keeps them going. That's why they're such a conglomerate,   behemoth to go against.   And, and why they're getting all the money and they're able to cut everybody else off because it's,   you know, the whole stock market should be explored   as the, you know, the means of exchange for a lot of these banks. I, I, I really think like the banks themselves and the bankers aren't so much the problem as the speculators and the,   the the government and military types that enforce it.  

Because the bankers themselves,   you look at your local bankers, they probably have very little to do with it and and, like,   if you go into their realm and and start talking to them about usury, they probably have no idea what you're talking about. Yeah. For one.   And and it's they're kind   of oblivious to it  

[02:38:10] Unknown:

from what I gather. Yeah. Usury is a it's a funny word. It makes people glaze over, I would imagine, when they hear it. What are you talking about?  

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Yeah. Well, yeah. It's like riding waste from laborers.  

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It's like when I told my neighbor that we I mean, over here, we pay a thing called council tax, like a property tax.   And, when I told her that it's totally illegal,   she looked at me as if I just got out of a spaceship or something. Well, this is totally illegal because,   every local council   has a,   government, sorry, a company registration number that's, registered at Dun and Bradstreet.   Yeah. So   your local council has as much right to put in a council tax bill to you than local supermarket has to put a bill in for things you haven't booked from them. So it's it's completely bent, the whole system.  

[02:39:01] Unknown:

Yeah. So there we go. Are you saying there's nothing honest in this world, Eric? Is that what you're saying?  

[02:39:06] Unknown:

When it comes to money,   official officialdom,   I yeah. Nothing.  

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Nothing. By the way, everybody in chat, both YouTube and Rumble,   good gatherings tonight. Brilliant.   We've been I've been so busy yakking, I've not given you as much attention as I need to. So,   but I was just wondered,   the idea of this Saturday show, that time slot, 4PM to 7PM,   if you could just say yay or nay or something in the church, just to give a it's a very small sort of market survey, whether that's a good time slot. We tend to think it's okay. I mean, I was saying, Eric, you and I will be sober at that time and actually awake, won't we, before four till 07:00? That's right. We might be telling them No smutty gags either. I I mean, I wouldn't dream of telling a smutty gag. No. What? Pre watershed?   Can't tell them before 09:00. Watershed. Yeah. You know?  



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Yeah. But,   no. I think that it's quite a good time slot. I mean, we're gonna get guests on, like, you know, Miles, who's the, Yeah. What do you call it? Is the,   a Fuckingham Hall,   doctor.   And Yeah. And he's gonna do a little slot called piles with Miles, isn't he? Piles with my well, he hasn't come back to me. And and quite honestly, I've I've virtually given up because   I I I don't know whether he's interested or not now. I mean, he used to be used to come on the show, but,   I I don't know. I think he's too I think he's he's   so, so busy. Yeah. He helps a lot of people. And And I think that might be the reason he's absolutely exhausted at the night in the evenings  

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to do a recorded shot or to do a show or to do a show or something. In the house? If you're a doctor and you think you could give medical advice and things like this or even make stuff up that would be funny, get in touch will you? By the way, we've got I've got an email address for Radio Soapbox,   [email protected].   So,   any sort of thoughts, ideas, or comments that you want. The Soapbox site is very bare intentionally but it's not gonna be over the next few weeks. That's the plan anyway. We're gonna try and tart a lot of things up and and create a bit more connectivity around there.   The bulk of the energy   in my show and I think in yours too, Eric, is in the chats here on Rumble and YouTube, which is fantastic.  



[02:41:17] Unknown:

Yes. So it's really It's like a happy family. It is. Well, sometimes it's like it's like a family. Yeah. There's a few miserable people in there, but of course, you know Get the case. We've got a few yeses  

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for the show.   11AM   Eastern   and 4PM UK time on a Saturday.   It worked really well for me because Saturday is my favorite day of the week and I just potter around and get loads done and then I sometimes feel a bit yucky at the end of the day. Oh, by the way, we might not all be here all the same. It might not be a regular sort of crew. The idea is to have an extended crew that could just rock up and and maybe somebody different will be in charge or play the role of maitre d' or whatever it is.   We'll we'll try that so that it's gonna be we'll we'll we'll try that. If it's so loose that it's mad, we'll stop it and tighten it up a bit. But if it's loose and really flows and and we get a bit of energy going, we'll we'll probably keep it, won't we? I guess. Something like that. Well, that's right. We could have the world's worst record spot. That's another one I do. We can find I mean, I think I want my baby back when it's on,  

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which was possibly because it's a bad taste anyway. You've been dying to play that song, haven't you?  

[02:42:27] Unknown:

Well I'm sure we can get around to it. Yeah.  

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Oh, it is awful. It is very, very bad.   What else could we have on?   Glamorous grandmother?  

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It's gonna be a bit difficult on radio, but we could probably do it.  

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Yeah. I don't know. Did did I ever tell you, they used to have Soviet Union during the, Cold War,   Soviet Weekly   in around London. Do do you remember that, Paul? Soviet Weekly? No. I don't.   Well, it used to be, next to the Ms. London sort of magazines. You didn't pick these magazines up, you see. And it was really funny because it was obviously,   written in Moscow or somewhere in Russia,   and they didn't quite understand the way our lifestyle was in this country, you see.   They had a glamorous grandmother competition.   We had an Australia that had a full   set full beard. We took a picture of him and sent it in. I must must hold back on the on the, hormone cream, comrade.  

We made up this story. We just wonder if he's gonna win it.   But, anyway, that that was a little that was something that was funny with the whole war. That was Soviet weekly.   Bleeding good laugh, it was.   Well, not not intentionally. It's meant to be serious, but it was funny when you read the amount of propaganda in it. You know? Oh, bring back the cold war. It was so much more fun than this.   Well, it was, wasn't it? Yeah. I mean, I'm not sure who the enemy was. Well, at least you knew who the enemy was, didn't you? Now you don't know who the enemy well, we know who the enemy is, but we can't see them.   They're behind the curtain, sort of thing. Yeah. That's the problem.  



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Alice Gorges, you see, you get all the mentions. Thank you very much for the Lord Blackheath video.   I know it. I've just seen his face. In fact, I met him.   I met him down in London years ago. Yeah. For about ten or fifteen minutes. Yeah. He's a great guy. He was a great guy. I hope he's still around. He might not be. He's quite a seasoned individual is the way I refer to it. I think I remember the speech, but I've not heard it in years. Brilliant. Absolutely brilliant. Yeah. He's one of those guys that stood up and said things. I've also got stuff from Hansard in the '9, nineteen forties to 4041 that I was reading the other day.   Guys have just known it's simply that it's not given any coverage. Now I wonder why that is. I mean, I wonder who owns the press.  

Couldn't be the same people that run the usury system, would it? That'd be that'd be just pure coincidence, really.   Yeah. It'd be just a pure coincidence. Oh, hang on. There's a bing. There's a bing. Does that mean someone's in the here we are. We got a caller. Hang on.   Hi, caller. You've oh.   I give up.   The chicken note. I heard the bing. Did you hear the bing? I heard the bing. I went straight ahead. I heard the bing. I unmuted.   They just disappeared off the screen.   Maybe it's Chicken people calling in to drive me crazy.   It's not,   whatever it is, battalion three hundred and forty nine, is it, or whatever they're called.  

It's not really.   Certainly certainly brigade. I feel technically humiliated, everybody. This is not good.   But it's true. I am humiliated.   Veritable.   Very, very, very bad.  

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Oh, dear. Mhmm. It's strange, ain't it, why that keeps happening? But we got Etta Volk   in in YouTube,  

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a chat room. Yeah. Etta was who called in. So hi, Etta.   Oh, I see. Yeah. It's all coming together. It's very incestuous around here. People are hopping inside, you know, of each of those chat rooms all day long.  

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Oh my god. She said, Paul, I had to choose the phone icon for it to work.   Oh. Perhaps that's the key. Choose the phone icon.  

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Yeah. Yeah.   Okay.   So that might be it. Well, maybe sort of something else. I might be looking at another so   let's not talk about it anymore. I'm gonna go mad. There's nothing worse than talking about technical things.   Anyway, anything lively and interesting anybody wants to say here towards the end? Anything else that we want to throw in? We've got 13 of wisdom to deliver. Thirteen   yes. Or we could just tell Well, how are we geyser, gags. How are we going to actually  

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could do, but how are we gonna change things? I mean, what you know,   if if Tommy Trousers,   who's got getting pots of money from, Middle East and plays that we're not allowed to criticize,   to put on these,   circus   exhibit because he's like Barnum, isn't he? He's like he's like,   he's just a kind of circus   show type thing.   Surely,   can't we do you know, there must be something we can do  

[02:47:12] Unknown:

because we Well, there well, we're doing this. We're doing this and I guess, you know, there's a bit of me that's slightly frustrated that I always think I can do more and and I and I can and this goes for everybody. So I know it's not a particularly attractive thought, but we all can. It's knowing exactly what I think, you know, if there's a make we have to have do we have to have?   I still like this idea of looking at parishes and working locally with people that you actually know face to face in real life. You know, the fact that we even have a term for this now, in real life, is ridiculous of course, because that used to be just life.   Not like an on like the online life is is what everybody has, but in real life is like a special privilege now. You actually go out and see human beings. But I think there's something, certainly, over here is to do with these 15,000   parishes,   And you're wanting to almost, like, get a little defend a defense team, for want of a better word, in each one, and to hook us all up communications wise through shows and or telephone systems or whatever.  

That's one thing. I think the other thing is,   to get everybody to never vote ever again.   Seriously? I mean, I was thinking about I could go knock on people's doors when the next election is. I I'm not from any particular party. I'm just here to appeal to to appeal to the better half of you.  

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Oh, she's not. Or the part the political party that can never be elected.   Hang on. You got another ping?  

[02:48:31] Unknown:

Yes. Here we go. We're fishing. I think the other  

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There we go. Hey.  

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Whoever you   are on o 7407,   we think you're through to the show, are you?  

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Yes. I am, Paul. This is Paul again. I I called earlier.  

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Oh, Paul. Brilliant. Yeah. You did. Great. Hello. You can you can close the shower out for us, Paul, if you don't mind.  

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Oh, well Hello. Yeah. I'm I'm probably a bit late with, what what I was gonna talk about. But,   you mentioned early on,   sort of Libya introducing   the,   you know, the the   the sort of systems that Gaddafi did and   the, you know, the   currency against the federal government and everything. And I I I was just gonna mention the fact that I I was at,   like, polytechnic   college,   at that time in the in the early eight   when we had a lot of Libyan   students   and,   you know, sort of several of the the lessons that I was,   part of then, and and they were just sort of they had the choice to study anywhere they wanted to on   any subject that they wished.  

And, you know, I was   sort of there when them students   had that freedom to Right.   To pursue   the   career they wanted to, you know. So it it was just   to verify that that talk that, you know, maybe you did have that system in place. You know, I I actually sort of witnessed it firsthand.   It's fantastic. You know, that that's how it was.  

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Yeah. No. But it's good. Nothing so major.  

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No. Yeah. Yeah. Just just very far in, you know, like stories of doctor Nero, but it was,   yeah. You know, it was very valuable before my eyes sort of thing. And, you know,   the the lads, the students, it was doing that then. They were all great, you know, and really bright people and   happy in the studies. So yeah. Yeah. Really,   really nice, but it didn't last, unfortunately.  

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Well, no. Because I guess for reasons.   Yeah.   When when Gaddafi did what he did, just like   yeah. When he when he was doing that, just like when   mister Hitler did what he did, he   you know, I've said this before. I'm not really sure what to say. He's basically putting the economic   produce of the nation   in the hands of the people first. So if you were one of those students and you were coming over here to study something and they were paying your student fees, which they were,   there's another opportunity for the usurers lost. They can't lend these students money   to go and get an education.  

And once that pattern starts to build up, everybody sees that it eases the pressure   and it begins to produce a much more   happy   populace.   Because it's a completely bogus arrangement, this usury thing. It's totally an artificial disease that's been injected into the system, you know, the the bookkeeping intermediaries   that have taken hold of both ends of the deal.   And they have to qualify  

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it. They have to qualify it by saying that they took him out for humanitarian   purposes.   Mhmm. Yep. That's that's their justification   for for looting his country   and killing him. Is all humanitarian   purposes, that justifies it. Don't ask any questions. Shut up, slave, and get back to work.  

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That's it.  

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Yeah. That's exactly it. But unfortunately,   you know, in the the majority,   the vast majority of people die,   they sort of normalize   that perversion   as,   you know, as the system and everyone's   everyone's gone the wrong way, unfortunately.  

[02:52:37] Unknown:

Well You know, then  

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well, that that that that that's what why what you, lad, are doing is absolutely great. You know, you're trying to sort of   reawaken   people up to, to what life could be.  

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Yeah. Well, we've got Paul, we have a political class.  

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They're really the same. Yeah. Sorry.  

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Yeah. No. I mean, we have a political class that are completely   ignorant of this.   I mean, they probably sense on some level that there's possibilities, but they never   ever communicate about it   at all. Which means that they're obviously the wonderfully compliant useless gits   that the money people want.   And this is not being abusive. They literally are that because, you know, buy their fruits ye know them and they don't produce any fruit. They just take the fruit off you.   I mean, the whole idea of tax is just insane. It's just completely not necessary. And, of course, if you talk to a normal British or American working person about this, they go, no, no. We need tax to fund the government. What? So they can rob you even more effectively next year. It's just ridiculous. Soap soapbox is dead air, by the way. Oh, again?   Oh.  



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Sorry to inform you. I wonder why.  

[02:53:52] Unknown:

It shouldn't be. Let me just go and have a look. Everything's falling over at the last minute. What's going on? I don't know. Yeah. Yeah. We only have five minutes left. Oh, well. Never mind. I'm gonna bring it back up. It'll be here in a second. Thanks anyway, Patrick.   I don't know.  

[02:54:08] Unknown:

It's been lovely to Yeah. It's it's it's exactly like you said, Scott. But, you know, for for my self personally, I mean, I'm I'm swarming that   that narcissistic   soup, you know, of the   the oil and gas industry most of my life, to be honest.   I always knew it was wrong, but always knew that as soon   as I had enough, I'd get out of it, you know, which,   you know, I'd be I did sort of do that.   So I you know, I'm not playing this by any means. I mean, you know, myself personally.   But, you know, there's a there's a price to be paid for it. And the the price is the the misery that we're living in now, you know, but   the the odd thing that that that, you know, the the the really crazy thing is we don't have to. All we need to do is say, no.  

Fuck off.  

[02:55:06] Unknown:

Yeah. I think that's completely appropriate to say that. Yeah. It it really is that. We just need enough of us saying it at the same time. I mean, it's not all of us have had to probably duck and dive to get to the point that we've got to. I know I have.   I've ducking and I actually had a business card made about 1991   when I was in my early thirties that had a duck on it diving into the water. I got this little design. And when people said, what business are you? I said, oh, ducking and diving. Because that's what it felt like and I just found it really funny. This is when I was sending my my, power pen, Eric. So when I was a power pen salesman Wow.   Selling this wacky pen for £5 that was just amazing.  

Probably bored everybody about that before but, yeah. I just had a little duck. Yeah. You know, I it's a people that what business you know? I was I'm in ducking and diving business. Are you not in it? You know, I said everybody I know is. You're just sort of bobbing around   trying to sort of find a niche and you can do it, but it's caused that behavior is just aberrate. It's ridiculous when you think about it. But it's not your or anybody else's fault because like I've said it, you went to school,   they don't teach you this.  

They don't teach   you the stuff that would make you independent of the banking system that I'll be able to grow so that you won't need it anymore.   And that's   that's this No. I mean, you know that, you know, your little  

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duck and diving card   would be seen as a, you know, a winner type exuberance in,   you know, given the circle that   you would no doubt sort of swimming in at that stage.   That that would have been sort of really novel  

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winning sort of, point.   It was. I I was always taking the mickey out of what I did because I fundamentally couldn't take it seriously.  

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It's not possible really to take it. I don't think it But, you know, when when you're when it's in that in that thing, then, you know,   the the the actual safe box in people you're with, that that that is the, you know, some of the tactics or they don't use that. You know, I can really say that. Yep. You know, it works. It only does work in the past.  

[02:57:11] Unknown:

Well, it's like I was saying a little bit earlier. We're we're just about the end of the show, Paul. We're just about to get the music. We got about a minute and a half to go. But I was just what I was saying, there's loads and loads of really competent business people out there doing brilliant stuff, really intelligent, working out how to run and manage huge organizations.   And huge numbers of them do not know how the money system works.  

[02:57:34] Unknown:

They just don't know. No. Well, I mean, I've I've   no. But I've got I left school at 15, and I worked for a a merchant banker till I was 21.   Right. And, you know, I mean, he he's an absolute   multimillionaire,   property developer and,  

[02:57:52] Unknown:

a merchant banker. And it's Paul, you're gonna have I'm sorry to cut you off, but you're gonna have to call back in next week because we're just about to end. We're down to just under a minute. So please call back in again whenever you feel like it's been great taking your calls, and we'll try and help you out a little bit more. I'd like to hear more about that. But fantastic. I'm just gonna sign off now with everyone, but thanks, mate, for calling in. It's been great. Lovely.   So that's it, everyone. We're finished with this week.   I'm just gonna have to put you on mute, Paul. I'm just gonna wrap up now.  

So we'll be back again next week. We'll see you all then.   Have a jolly good week. And when we get this Saturday thing going, it won't be this Saturday,   possibly a week on Saturday if we can sort a few things out. I'll let you know next week, and we'll try and tune it up and give you all something to do on a Saturday while you're drinking your beer and your champagne and getting ready to go out dancing. See you all next week, everyone. Bye for now.