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PAUL ENGLISH LIVE #104 · paulenglishlive.com
Thursday September 11th · 8pm UK · 3pm US eastern



In this episode, we delve into the intricate web of historical and contemporary issues surrounding identity, religion, and geopolitics. We begin by discussing the recent assassination of Charlie Kirk, exploring the potential motivations and implications of his murder. The conversation touches on the influence of Zionism, the role of media in shaping narratives, and the broader context of political assassinations. We also reflect on the significance of 9/11, 24 years on, and the ongoing impact of such pivotal events on public consciousness.

In the latter part of the show, we shift focus to a deep dive into the historical and scriptural narratives that have shaped Western civilization. Eli James joins us to discuss the ancient lineage of the Israelites, the role of Edomites, and the implications of these identities on modern geopolitics. We explore the concept of 'fluffy Christianity' and the importance of understanding biblical texts in their historical context. This episode challenges listeners to reconsider widely held beliefs and encourages a deeper exploration of historical truths.

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I bet you're all still taking a look around you, aren't you, every week? Anyway, welcome back, everyone. It's Thursday. Yeah. It is. It's Thursday. It's September 11, an inauspicious   day. This is Paul, English Live   show one zero four. Welcome to the show.   Well, yeah, it's that time of the year. We're nearly at the end of summer, we're nearly at the start of autumn. It seems to have started a little bit early around here, but I suspect we ought to get a bit more sunny days back. But, yeah,   a serious day today. We're gonna start off serious anyway, but I'm sure we will revert to our usual buoyant selves during the show.   Hi, everyone. Welcome back. Hope you've had a cracking week. It's been a bit rough, hasn't it, in world news over the last day or so for all sorts of reasons. Some quite serious things, obviously, the Charlie Kirk situation.  

But I'm here with at least a kickoff to start things rolling with Eric von Essex. Eric, good evening to you. How are you? Good evening to you. I mustn't grumble.  

[00:01:51] Unknown:

I could grumble if you've got three hours to spare, but I don't think I will. It's been a nice day, but I have problems with it. Fine by me. Constructive.  

[00:01:59] Unknown:

Interesting grumbling is fine. It's kind of what we do here a little bit, isn't it, anyway? So That's right. And,  

[00:02:04] Unknown:

we had some liquid sunshine earlier because that's what rain is, isn't it? It's sunshine in liquid form. It's it's Is that what it is? Isn't it? Yeah. Why not? And we should always see the bright side of everything, so that's it. You know? And, I had quite an interesting day. I went up to the   farm shop to buy some eggs, and on my journey,   there's loads of loads of men dressed as policemen wandering around.  

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You mean rozzas?   Rozzes. Yes. And Blimey. Rozzes.  

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Yeah. If you wanna have a life   of leisure,   one, become a priest   or a policeman.   And you will do or MP and you can do   subtle.   You can sit back, you know, and delegate.   And, they're all standing around with their hands in their pockets outside this house. It's sort of semi rural where I was. And,   there was a a a a van   with,   cages in it which were police dogs.   So I assume they was there to pick up a wild dog. I don't know.   And,   I went out to buy me eggs. And when I came back, there's there was about 15 to 20 of them. What they were doing there, all staring around their hands in their pockets, having a chinwag.   It's like it's like a sort of ladies' knitting party.  



[00:03:21] Unknown:

I mean, I felt like just creeping up the other game. Those. Wouldn't you like to join? Oh, I see. Party. Nor is it me a jumper, I'd be saying, come   on. Put some nice sleeves on that, love.  

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I I saw   written in a toilet once,   my mother made me a homosexual.   Someone wrote underneath, if I give her the wool, can she knit me one?  

[00:03:47] Unknown:

Well, ladies and gentlemen, I'm happy you with record. We're four minutes and forty two seconds into the showroom. We put the word toilet in. That's under five minutes. That's pretty impressive, Eric.   Impressed.   Maybe they were training   maybe they were training the dogs for the police equivalent of crufts. Do they have a sort of police dog show or something? What do you mean? Or do a little bit of things  

[00:04:09] Unknown:

like that? I don't mark my neighbor. He's taking his dog for a walk. And the Yeah. Head of the,   drugs squad was taking his dog for a walk and he arrested my neighbor because he said, excuse me, I think you would   I found out from my dog that your dog has about 300 pounds of cocaine rubbed up his backside.   Sorry. It's a terrible joke in here.  

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It's yeah. It's lovely, though. There's always it's always good to start off with a nice dog cocaine up your bottom joke, I think. It's always a good way to it's always a good way to start things.  

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Oh, by the way, Nathan Nathan,   is a very, very naughty boy.  

[00:04:48] Unknown:

Which one? He's got a I now I have two because of you, I now have two Nathans in my life.  

[00:04:54] Unknown:

We have, Nathan Allenby and Nathan Lucius. Which one are you referring to? I'm confused. Nathan Lucius. Of Nathan's. Yeah. Who are Lucius, who's on the show tonight or due to be, he's five minutes late. And I said he needs,   note from his parents.   So he said, sorry about that. He's quite a nice surprise.  

[00:05:10] Unknown:

Is he really? I mean, I'm glad that he's rocking up. This is really cool. Yes. I just remember the chat that we had the other day that you said he he hurled his mobile phone at the wall or something and was mobile phoneless. And therefore, I won't because I'd not been able to get through to him or anything, I just assumed he wasn't sort of all geared up to do anything tonight. But this is this is cool. This this is not a problem. This is good. Yeah. So, no, I've been in contact with you. Surprise. Yes. His phone apparently is still working.  

[00:05:36] Unknown:

So,   I've sent him the link to the studio,   so all should be well. What could possibly go wrong?  

[00:05:43] Unknown:

Well, I'll tell you what could go wrong is that I actually don't look out for him and just blithely carry on talking and he actually ignore him. But now no. It's okay. Now that I know, I've got this I've got the studio here, so I can see anybody that's queued up waiting to come in in our virtual studio. You see? It's all very posh around here. Do that. And, of course, whilst whilst he's waiting,   he'll be getting makeup and all sorts of other things. He'll be treated really well by, by the girls for the show. So he's doing really That's it. Actually, he's just rocked up. I'm gonna bring you in momentarily, Nathan, until I get Eric to tell a few more jokes. Okay?   Yeah. Anyway, I'm doing you a favor, Nathan. It means that you're not right in the front line of receiving all this stuff. Okay? So I'm just,   well, I'm is that a lot about your dog story with the police? This is really good. My One of my, sons is bending my ear every day about the fact that we need to get a dog. And, of course, you know, he wants a Labrador puppy or something. And, of course, you know, they're like, you just look at them and you go, oh, they're ridiculously cute. What do you oh, look at that. And how'd you come back? All I do is I just look at it and just go, poo. That's basically all I've got coming up in my future is the arrival of poo. And I just, you know, frankly,   I've done my poo duties in life, and,   I think I've done my first stint. And I I don't want to be doing any more stuff with dog's bottoms or anything like that. It's just No. It's too much. I'm set in my ways, and frankly, I reject it. You know? Remember the old Chinese saying, a dog is not just for Christmas. With care, there can be enough left over for sandwiches in the New Year. Sorry.  

Yeah. Yum. Number 44, wasn't it? On the one hour's menu or something like that. When I last saw that said that,  

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people got really irate about it. Oh, I I've got a lovely dog. How dare you say that? I'm joking.   Do they really think I'd eat a dog? Well, I couldn't eat a whole one. I mean, do you know what I mean? I know. And they're all fluffy and everything. They're they're That's right. Yes. Aren't they?  

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Yeah. I know. I  

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it it is a sensitive it's a   sensitive spot with some people. They're very, very I know. And it's good in a way. I think, you know, the fact that people have a caring heart for dogs and pets is fine. I'm okay with all of that kind of stuff, but I'm just not one of them. It's not that I'm nasty to those things. I'm not. I really I quite like them. It's just that, you know, I I want to read and do I've got a full day and I don't really and I go up walking. I mean, I'm told, oh, if you get a dog, dad forget a dog, dad.   You know, I'll go walking more. But I walk plenty as it is.  

And, you know, if I go walking, I like to think I could just see the dog charging off somewhere all over the place. You know. Did you ever see that video? It just reminded me of something.   At Richmond Park   with a guy with his dog. Do you ever see that? I forgot. No. Oh, I've got I'm gonna have to get it for a future show, but then I'm gonna have to go video because you've got to see it. He's walking there's a guy sort of like Mhmm. This is maybe ten, fifteen years ago, this video shot. And he's got a flat cap on, one of those green sort of country jackets and his boots. And he's but he's in Richmond Park, which is really just almost in the heart of London, really, but it's a fantastic park.   And,   they have a lot of wild deer running around there. Yeah.  

And what's the name of his dog? Oh, I can't remember because it's it's funny. Anyway, he's got he's got this dog, obviously, that's got a name and he starts shouting.   It's not Rex. It's something a bit more interesting. And, he starts shouting at the dog, and all of a sudden,   from the right hand side of the screen,   you see these deer. And when I say these, I mean 50 or 60 of them going   absolutely full tilt across this field, Ryan. He's shouting like mad. He's going apoplectic. He's going red as he's shouting at his dog. And then they the dog comes following up going even faster trying to hunt them down, causing absolute mayhem on Richmond Park. It's hilarious. Yeah. It's one of the great videos. I thought it's sort of like 40,000,000 hits or something. It's pretty if you haven't seen it. Oh, I'll I'll have to see that. Yeah. On Richmond Park. It's a cracker. Yeah. It's very funny. He's he's come the dog has basically obviously been very behaved all its life, but it's just gone in front of some deer and all the instincts all kicked in in one swift go.   Well, that's the trouble with dogs. I like that, aren't they? They're not they're not worried about showing their true affections in public, are they? Or or what what they wanna do. They just do it, don't they? Whatever they wanna do. They they do. Yeah. They're quite Yeah. They're not they're not bashful, are they? They're quite forthright and sort of direct. Yeah. They don't have yeah. They are. They're quite sort of like that. Well, I'm glad you had your thing with the police. I think I mentioned to you the other day as well,   I've,   I've recovered today.  

Yesterday,   now what was it yesterday? Yesterday was Wednesday, wasn't it? But but this is not to do with the the loss of Charlie Kirk. I had something else going on yesterday.   I I went up to what did I do? Oh, yeah. I went up to see a good friend in London on Tuesday.   Cricklewood.   You remember the goodies?  

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Goody gosh. Goody. Goody. Goody. Goody.  

[00:10:42] Unknown:

And for listeners in The United States Of America, the goodies was a comedy show,   on British TV in the nineteen seventies with these three guys.   I can't remember the name now. Bill Oddy and Graham Garden and Timbrook Taylor. See, I can remember their names. There's only one left of the two. Live together in a flat, which is always weird. And they're always inventing things and doing things, getting up to sort of slightly surreal, zany adventures and stuff like that. And it was quite funny at times.   And so Cricklewood   is where they were located.  

And when if it was still like that, it'd be great, but it wasn't. It wasn't like that. And all I could think of as I,   bumped into my pal, who I'd not seen for about five years, actually,   which was just great to get up there,   had a wonderful day, really, just talking and talking and talking and talking, and then realizing that I had to go and thinking I'd only been here ten minutes. You know what it's like? The older you get, the longer you talk, don't you? It's just outrageous, really. But I thought, really, they need to redo it with a series called The Baddies, really, and not The Goodies. It would be more appropriate now, some, what, fifty years on since the mid seventies. So,   it was quite,   it was great to see him and to walk around and do stuff,   but I have to say the full force of multiculturalism   there it was writ large. And it's not a pretty sight, really. It's not that people are at each other's throats or anything like that. There's just this general lack of focused aliveness because   I'm looking at this place going,   this is sad. It really is. It's sad what's happened. It's a lot of other things. It's organized. It's intentional. It's all these other words that you wanna drum up. Yeah. They're true as well. But the end result is just some sort of drab, silly place. And,   he was,   my pal was quite cross about it. And I thought, I said, well, maybe you ought to move out, really, because I don't know how you're gonna affect the entire infrastructure of the region now. It's a bit late. Yeah. But, you know, we're going past all these fast food shops. None of them are fish and chips. They were all everything under the sun. And I like all that food as well, but that's not the point I'm trying to make. It's not about whether I like these these sorts of foods or not. It's just that that that was becoming the overriding   cultural mess. And it's just a mess. It's not a culture at all. It's literally an accommodation of different things cheek by jowl. And, of course, it's always presented as being interesting  

[00:13:03] Unknown:

environment at all. It was Yes. It's vibrant. It's vibrant. It's it's a rich, vibrant multicultural   area.  

[00:13:10] Unknown:

And that's what that's that's that's the buzzwords, isn't it? That's what they use. You know? It is. Yes. It is. And I think when I spoke to you yeah. So on the Wednesday yesterday,   I didn't realize it, but I was actually quite glum all day.   I wasn't glum on the day because I was having a great time really talking to, you know, a guy I used to work with in the eighties.   And so it's quite a quite a holdback. And,   we had a lot to catch up on and no doubt future calls. And there's loads of other people that we worked with that I'd love to see again. I think I would, actually. I'd love to know what they think about what's going on. I've I haven't got a clue in many ways.   I think most of them have been probably pretty successful and good luck to them on that.  

But I just don't know. Even, you know, even people who've got a big sort of defensive bubble, it's wrong of me to call it that, but a well insulated from it must be getting sort of reached by the mess, I would have thought by now. So but, yeah, when yeah. Yesterday was not good. And then it was topped off, obviously, by this,   news at the end of the day. I only saw it late last night or whenever that,   Charlie Kirk   had been killed. I think at first, it just said that he'd been shot, but he'd been killed. But look, before we go into all that territory, and and what with it being 09:11, I think we need to acknowledge this at the beginning.   We've got this reprobate, Nathan Lucius, who we've kept at at bay. He's been pampered well in the dressing rooms. Let me bring him on stage. Here we go.  

Nathan, good evening, and welcome to the show. Hello, Paul.   Hello. How are you?  

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I never asked me that question. Can you hear me alright, first of all?  

[00:14:42] Unknown:

Yes. We can hear you fine. Yeah. We can. You're fine.  

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I I I don't believe I've ever been referred to as a reprobate before, but I quite I I kinda like it. So let's just let's just go with that.  

[00:14:52] Unknown:

Oh, I've got a lot more where that's going. I've got the dictionary here, Anathasaurus, so we can pull a few out over the Oh. Over the weeks and years to come. There's all sorts of terms of kindly terms of of abuse.  

[00:15:03] Unknown:

Nice. I I do have a little book of abuse, but it's it's only like I don't even know what the hell. I put stuff all over the place. But,   yeah, let's let's just go with that. I mean, if, you know, if you run out of dictionaries, by the way, I've just got rid of two. You can have one of them if you like.  

[00:15:17] Unknown:

Oh, no. That's fine. I've got some   you can see I've become really interesting as the years have gone by. I was talking about dictionaries the other day with my pal. I've got a chambers, which is huge. It's a massive one. But I'll tell you what is fun.   Hey. Talk about exciting radio. This is the place to be. Here's here's a fun task for oh, by the way, I haven't even acknowledged everybody in YouTube. Hi, everybody in YouTube and everybody in Rumble chat. Welcome to the show and everybody on WBN. I'm such a rude booger. I get I just launch off on what I wanna do and don't say hi. Welcome everybody in the chat. I'm gonna take a look in a second or two,   and see what's going on. And again, the the phone lines are open and I'm looking at it this week, so maybe I'll even see it. You know, if you wanna call in,   we'll put the number up momentarily after we've sort of gone through this first hour in a bit. But,   yeah. What was I saying? Like I said, I've been up my bum now. Happens loads. Yeah. There we go. That's it. Anyway, I've really enjoyed tonight's show, lads.  



[00:16:14] Unknown:

Yeah. Thanks for that. I'll see you next week. Yeah? Yeah.  

[00:16:18] Unknown:

What was I talking about before I just went into all that logistical stuff for coding? Dashing.   Bingo. Fantastic. Thank you. Someone's got a brain. Thank you, dude. Yeah. One of one of the things that's really that I find really quite cool thing to do, because I'm a nerd with this stuff,   is to go and look up online old dictionaries.   Go search if ones in the eighteen nineties and stuff like that and compare definitions of words. It's quite interesting. Not all the time. There's lots of parallels. Right?   But you can see how the definitions   change and shift and emphasis and this, that, and the other.  

Generally, my view is that in the eighteen hundreds, everything's absolutely crystal clear. You're left in absolutely no doubt. It's for the avoidance of all doubt. The language is precise, clear.   And I think this is becoming so important because I I think everyone's in a muddle around words.   There's so much word muddlement intentionally being taking place. And when the language gets hijacked,   it's a ruin. It's terrible. Nobody can really communicate anymore. So, anyway, there you go. Those are the thrilling things I've been up to. So   get yourself if you haven't got a dictionary or anybody out there, get one. They're absolutely vital. They're really they when you get into them, they're pretty cool really because you can just go, hey, I'm thick. I don't know what you just said. I'm gonna go and check it up. And it's pretty good. Yeah. It works out quite well. But words words such as gay. Now gay was a happy,  

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jolly person.   Now it means something completely different, and I prefer the old version of the word in use. Yep. You know?   And there was a band called the Gay Boys in the nineteen thirties. You see, we'll see an E. I find it and, you know, it was happy and gay. If he would say, are you happy and gay? Meaning, are you a jolly person? That's what it meant. Words of people Yeah. Are you light of  

[00:18:01] Unknown:

heart and of good manners and a good laugh to be around and rather charming and witty at times? And do you have a copy of Chambers Dictionary 1895?  

[00:18:10] Unknown:

But isn't this just part of the whole newspeak? Isn't isn't this,   part of what they're doing, you know, on a global stage? They're they're they're inverting meanings of things and changing the meanings of things. I mean, look, you know, Wicked was was one that I grew up with.   Wicked was always, you know, evil, dark, sinister, twisted, you know, and they and they changed it to Wicked is now good and cool, and it's just they've done it with loads of them. I've I've noticed over the years, and it's just like, you know,   so it's it's an interesting contrast when you compare, like, different   dictionary definitions to one another as well as the older definitions as well. And I I think this is all part of the,  

[00:18:47] Unknown:

I guess, the agenda. Are we even allowed to say that on on this particular platform? Yeah. Of course we are. We are. Absolutely. We're allowed to say it. There is an agenda. I think, you know, I don't know if you just mentioned Orwell, but Mhmm. At the at the tail end of   we were talking about this the other day. At the tail end of 1984,   there's an essay on Newspeak,   and it's worth reading repeatedly every few months or whenever you get the urge.   It's,   it's about this process   of   bringing language into a different condition gradually by removing certain words.   I mean, it's just it's fascinating that he saw all this kind of stuff. But then he would have known because   he was connected with the Fabian Society.  

He was obviously involved in intelligence circles. That's you don't get to write that sort of stuff without being part of a world where you're thinking about those sort of topics most of your working life. And, of course, it's not many years after the Bolshevik revolution and word control and the use of words and particularly with Bernays and the whole of the PR thing,   all of this hijacking of language. I mean, Bernays refers to it as the hidden government, and it is. Even though it's in every it's right in front of everybody. But this manipulation of language is just,   you have to stay permanently alert to pick it up, which is why a dictionary is quite helpful, I think, because it's like, oh, it's really good to say I don't know what you're saying. I'm saying it more and more. I used to you know, when you're younger, you pretend you know everything and you're bumbling along in a conversation, you don't know quite what they said.  

And,   one of the things actually that I ended up talking to my pal about, we went out to this is on Tuesday.   We go to a greasy spoon. Now, if you're in America, you don't know what a greasy spoon is, it's shorthand for   a relatively inexpensive   cafe,   anywhere in England. There's lots of them in London, in and around London, but they're all over the place, where you can get bacon and egg sandwiches and a cup of tea and a cup of instant coffee. There's nothing fancy about it. It's not all, you know, lattes and things like that. It's quite roughty toughty. Generally, they're sort of,   serving working men or office workers that like to come in and, you know, do the crossword puzzle and stuff like that. And you get an omelette, and it's not expensive and it's great. We were in one of those talking away. And we got around to talking about this language thing. We're talking about all sorts of stuff. Something actually very weird, I'll mention as well, happened in there. I think I told you, Eric, didn't I, if you're the listener? That's right. Yeah. It was very odd. But we were having a great conversation about all sorts of things. Many of the things that we talk about here, you know, like,   how do you reach people? And, you know, the old adage, you can take a horse to water, but can you make him drink? The answer is absolutely no. You can't until they really wanna drink. Once they wanna drink, then you can do things. But there's that kind of stuff. And we were talking about all that. And we just got round to talking about newspeak and words.  

And   I might have mentioned this before, actually, because I actually brought it up in conversation, and he referenced something with it.   You know Scientology?  

[00:21:44] Unknown:

You've heard of Scientology? Tom Cruise is a Scientologist. Yeah. The the religious cult from, some other outer space destination.   Yeah. From Timbuktu.  

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Yeah. Well, I mean, the thing is, if you can sort of put some of that wacko stuff aside, and, of course, you shouldn't. You should keep it definitely in your rear view mirror all the time and keep one eye on it. But much of the stuff that's in there is actually pretty solid and good stuff. It's about how you deal with information and process things and and where you're at with your head and all there's all sorts of other stuff. I used to,   when I worked in London in the eighties, I used to walk down Oxford Street, used to get regularly pulled in there by the keen and eager salesman   for Dianetics and Scientology and all these other things that came from this guy, l Ron Hubbard. And, of course, Hubbard was a spook. He was connected to the military industrial complex and CIA trained,   which means that actually there's some good stuff in it, but there's also some other stuff in which they were using.  

But hub Hubbard wrote about this. I we were talking about it and then my friend quoted it back to me. He said, oh, there's this thing that Hubbard had written where he said, if you're reading any text, anything at all,   or or you're in a conversation and someone uses a word that you don't understand,   you your duty is to stop at that point and reach for the dictionary   or stop your friend and say, I don't understand what that word that you just used. What does it mean? Of course, this might stop a lot of conversations. I don't know. And Hubbard's thinking, and mine too, really, is this. If you   if you hit that word and then carry on reading and we all used to do this when we were younger. I bet you have. I know I did when I was 14 and 15. I go, I can't be bothered. And I go on and then I go, oh, this don't make sense.  

And what happens is if you don't know the def if what that word actually means, you're gonna probably read the rest of the story or the rest of the piece   in error or slightly off beam and not really get the gist of the whole thing. I think it's a good habit to get into.  

[00:23:40] Unknown:

I think loads it though, I found. When when when you used to do that, if you didn't understand the word or it you know, if especially if it was one that was repeated often,   it it it would kind of it would kinda shadow the the the rest of the book. I don't I I don't know how else to kind of put that across. It's like   you could understand it, but there was always like a cloud looming over here. It's like, yeah, but there's that thing there that I'm still not quite sure about, you know?  

[00:24:04] Unknown:

Yeah. That's that's why you obviously needed a dictionary when you were a younger man,   Nathan.  

[00:24:10] Unknown:

Yeah. Yeah. I I mean, yeah. Probably. I mean, I didn't need one, but you didn't use it. There's that as well. You're cocky.  

[00:24:17] Unknown:

You you you can sometimes work words out by context, can't you, where they're placed and everything?   Yeah. I think you can.  

[00:24:24] Unknown:

Well, sometimes.  

[00:24:25] Unknown:

Yeah. Every now and again, there's a word I think I know and I go, I think I really ought to look that up. I'm just assuming this. And I go look at the definition. I go, it's not exactly what I thought it was. It's slightly   off to one side. I mean, of course, we can't spend our entire lives looking at dictionaries, but I think it's pretty   it's pretty helpful to do that sort of thing. Yeah. So we were talking about that. Anyway, whilst I'm in it, this is weird thing that happened as well. I don't I'm not gonna it was odd. We were talking about stuff. About 15 feet behind me, there were only two or three other guy. There were there were three other guys on the table. They were Indians or Muslim or whatever. I don't know. They were nice guys. They were fine. Atmosphere in the place was lovely. You know, I'm not trying to make out that everywhere is sort of like gonna be a riot in five seconds because it isn't.   And,   I'd I'd been saying something. I don't even know what I was talking about, actually. We were talking about something. And this guy gets up,   and and I could tell he must have looked over to our table because he addressed us. And he said, what you're saying? He said, I really like what you're saying. I'm going, what did I just say?  

He said, I need to go home and tell my children about this. He said, my children need to be learning about these things that you're talking about. This is a great conversation. I've really enjoyed listening to it. Something to that effect. I went, oh, well, thanks, you know. And off he goes. Yeah?   And,   my mate said, there you go. It works. And, you know, I've said here, Eric, we've talked about it that maybe that, you know, in the radio thing, it's a bit like we are sat in a cafe or a pub,   and what we're doing is we're we're trying to generate and we do, I think. We generate some kind of an interesting conversation   with a view that we will get earwiggers.  

And this guy was this guy and his mates were earwigging in. I mean, the fact that they were English was a bit of a disappointment,   But I didn't mind.   You know, I just thought, well, it does work. You know? So maybe we need to go and spend all our time sitting in greasy spoons, having chats, have a cups of coffee. What do you think? You know what you you mentioned about the greasy spoons to the Americans?  

[00:26:15] Unknown:

And, you know, the the,   I think they isn't isn't it the equivalent of a truck stop?  

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Yeah. So it's close to the I guess yeah. Yeah. I guess. Yeah. Yeah. I guess it is, really. Yeah. I mean, they're open from, what, usually 06:00 in the morning, aren't they, like, greasy spoons? They close-up about four or five because they're absolutely pooped.   And it's just lots of chips  

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and heavily fried burgers, lots of eggs, but some of the stuff's great. I had a cheese omelette, and it was lovely. I just thought I'd let you know. Yeah. You make me hungry because I'm not eating all day. This is you you this is, you know, if I if I disappear in about twenty minutes and then return in fifty minutes, you know, I've gone for someone to eat.   Well, if you do, come back and eat it live on air behind the mic, and we can do a food radio. It's great. Yeah. And you can slobber all over the mic. That'd be really good. I couldn't I couldn't do that courtesy for your guests because I can't stand that. We know when people are eating on the microphone and, like, eating in front of the camera. It's like, oh, god. Get some manners, you know, sod off.   So there you go. It's it's I know it's one of those things, but but as I could say, I won't do it to others either, so there you go.  



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Yeah. You're I thought I don't know. Are there any sort of food eating oh, there must be loads. Of course, there are. I've seen it. Oh, these oh, there are all these eating competitions out there. I've gone to Chicago. I'm gonna eat I'm gonna be eating five restaurants. I'm gonna eat a steak in every one. And you just go, why? Why are you doing this? I don't understand why people do it. Oh, I can't eat anymore. Take a curry job. Yeah. Well, that would make sense. You're eating like a pig. What are you doing? I don't get it. It's just weird. It's really weird to me. I don't I don't get it at all. So No. No. Again, it's one of those things where you look and you think, oh, that that could be fun, and then you think, yeah. But I can barely eat, like, a a curry and a papa dominant and a a naan bread without filling stuffed. But but saying that, if anyone wants to challenge me to eat, like, three curries, I mean, I'll I'll I'll I'll consider it.  

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I'll go for that.  

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Three curries. Oh, wow. Three curries. Then you'd be known as Nathan three curries, Lucius, wouldn't you? Hey. Hey. You're getting your nickname.  

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I've got that that would be quite the same.  

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Do you eat curry, Eric? I'm interested to know. Yes. Yes. I like curry. Yes. Yes. Very nice.   And Yeah. It is. I I like my and,   I don't like it too strong. I just like it   average, you know. Not not too mild, not too strong, just in the middle.   You know? That's it. Yep.  

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Middle of the road. Nice and yeah. Yes. I don't eat I don't eat strong ones anymore. Now that I don't have a gallbladder anymore, I'm a bit sort of sensitive about that. But I used to I used to eat jalf phrases with those   big fiery green peppers, and I love them.   Anyway,  

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I was just talking natural.  

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I was gonna say bring on a spoon. As far as I'm concerned, I like Indian curries and lots of spice.   Yes. Yep.  

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They're good. I think every now and again, they're pretty good. I had,   well, we're talking about food. I had lasagna tonight. Oh, also, the other thing, it's all been going on here, you know. I've had a funny day as well. I got up early. I had to go to the dentist's day.   Oh, actually, take hey. Get on. How's your teeth? I was fantastic. You like? No. No. It's brilliant. It's absolutely amazing. Completely,   so I had,   upper left back   of my teeth.   I had a cracked filling, and a bit fell out about two weeks ago. Interesting. I hadn't had any pain from it. It used to play up like mad. Since the bit fell out, it was great. I'm thinking, do I really need to go and get this done? But, of course, it was one of the old mercury fillings, you know Yes. Amalgam and all that. So I've had it taken out and I've had a white one put in. Yes. She's here. This chart.   Well, it was £200.  



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So is that is that a lot? Yeah. You paid 80. It was too bad, actually. 80. That's better than poisoning yourself. Lead fillings, isn't it?   Yeah. I've got one   lead filling left. That's all. I've had the rest plastic.   But Right. What what I like is you can eat on it immediately, can't you, once the filling's done, unlike, an amalgam. I'm eating right now. Yeah. You're right. You can.  

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Yeah. You can. It was pretty cool. And,  

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did you have any more aesthetic?  

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Because I I did. I'm a baby. I was thinking about you. Yeah.   I said, so do some people do you work Anastra,   she's,   a Greek lady in her late twenties. She's fantastic energy. She's great. First time   I've gone back because I didn't go to the dentist for the whole of the COVID thing. I don't wanna start getting involved in anything that's to do with that sort of area. I just wanna stay healthy and never have to go to any of those places ever again. I know it's kind of pathetic.   But,   I had to go for a checkup, and I was a bit concerned because they'd replaced all the people with other people. I didn't I wasn't particularly keen. But she she turned up. She said, I'll be your dentist forever or something like that. I said, well, you know, until you leave England or whatever. And she's a bit she got trepidation about the English winter. I said, it's all overblown. Don't worry about it. I said, it don't get that cold. I said, it rains quite a bit. I said, but you'll love it. Apart from which you get to eat loads of potatoes and gravy and pies.   I said, there's lots of you know? I said, because Greeks always love meat and potatoes. I thought they so. Oh, yes. Yes. But no. She was fantastic. It was it took. A time. It was forty five minutes. I was in the chair, though. It's quite long. Yeah. I thought How many how many fillings do you have done? Did you just have two? Just one.  

I had the I had the old one chiseled out and then a new one put in. And the biggest problem I had was this I'm sorry to be disgusting. It was the saliva. God. I thought, how much do I am I gonna produce? It just I I was kept on you know when you have to swallow and you're almost choking? Yeah. It was that. That was the worst bit. I said, you know, there wasn't any pain or anything from the teeth.   So that was pretty cool, really. So, yeah, I read a little chart. It said, now you need to be aware of this before we put a white filling in. I said, what am I gonna she said, no. Just read it. So apparently, it will stain if I drink coffee, tea, or red wine. I said, well, I'm done for. I drink all of those all at the same time. No. I don't. Yeah. But it's at the back. Nobody can see it. Nobody looks into your mouth and go, oh, that's a stained molar at the back of your mouth that I never ever see, do they? So, I mean, I couldn't care less, really. Well, that's it.  

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Just match the rest of your teeth, Warner, as as you're consuming the same stuff. I mean, you know, at least it's just,   you know, not silver and poisoning you every time you crunch on it, you know, or or chewing it, you know?  

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No. It's good. It's really, really good. And it they used to be a sort of,   you can see we're talking about a little bit of fluff here, Kate, in the opening part of the show, but this is good. I like fluff. It's good. Don't you think about it?   Yeah. Yeah. It's just your arms are well more.   Yeah. It's like we just turned up at the pub. No one knows what to talk about, so you start talking about, oh, it'll be piles or something like that. I never talked about that. We're not going to last territory.  

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No. I'm not. You know what happened to Miles Fleet? Well, you know, the doctor Miles? The he's on well, I I I could try and drag him on a show. Well, what happened is,   he went along to the dentist and I don't know when he got it from me. So, no no anesthetic. It's okay. And then that that is started   drilling, and he thought, bloody hell. There's perspiration coming off of him. The pain. He said, oh, he said, I've just given you, was it, what's that, old thing they give you? Root canal. What? Right. She said, oh, he said, I'll think I better give you some anesthetic for that, for root canal.  

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You think so?  

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Have you have you seen the, the documentary for that, the root cause?  

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What's that? No. It's right. Oh, god. You've got to see this. I don't know if if you either of you I do. Because I've got three root canals in my head, so I don't wanna go and see it because I'm I'm gonna die. I I was telling her my root canal story. She was impressed. I had two root canals in three hours   when I was,   in my thirties because they did the wrong tooth.   They did root canal on the wrong bloody tooth. Yeah. It was really that was amazing that.   But anyway, I don't mind. It's just a bit I'll have them all replaced. I'll tell you. Not that I might live to see it. I bet that I have nanobots rebuilding your teeth live in your mouth in   fifteen, twenty years. Seriously. I reckon it'll be I reckon it'll be I reckon it'll be scan you for years ago. We can rebuild your custom teeth in your mouth. You won't even feel it. In three weeks' time, you'll have a brand new set of teeth. Well, my mother had a filling done in I think it was 1941 during the war. Okay. During World War two, she had a filling done, and that filling was in  

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her mouth till the day she died. And, when was she doing it? Yeah. 02/2007.  

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'7, Hey. Sixty six years?  

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Sixty six years. Yeah. Same filling. Well, there's a there's a number already. So she said certainly knew what he was doing. You know? He said, those days, they certainly knew what they were doing. And Yeah. Never had to get replaced.  

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Now that is Well, maybe maybe they put fillings in now knowing that they've got to replace so that they've got repeat business.  

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I hate to be saying anything about it. Yeah. Make makes money, doesn't it? So people you know, it's not something you can really live with long term, so you have to get it sorted out. Do you know It's Here's one for you as well. I knew, I knew a woman during lockdown, and, obviously,   well, it was, like, early stages of the stand in the park. And she couldn't get a dent a dentist appointment,   so she ripped her own tooth out.   I'm not joking here. I mean, she literally she literally got herself kind of drunk and took a pair of plies, and it was one of the the one of the back teeth, and she ripped her own tooth out.  

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Love it. And it was good. Brutal. I know it was afterwards?  

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It's the it's the nerve floating around loose, flopping in your mouth or something, and it's really I don't I'm not even getting idea, mate. I just I just know she did it, and it was like it was kind of a a talking point where everyone was like, oh, you did what? But, yeah, I'm not I'm not joking. She she got a pair of pliers onto it because she couldn't get a a dentist appointment because, you know, they were all too busy caring about everyone's health that nobody could get to see a health practitioner.   So, yeah, you know, do it yourself.  



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So Well, my granddad,   he said like a full boot that last. That's unfortunate. She was. Yeah. She was a bit of a toughie like me. Yeah. But what my granddad did, he he had to tie have a tooth out when he was a kid. So he tied a tie tied a bit of string around it and then tied the other end to a door handle and then slammed the door and tooth came straight out.   Yeah. So that's what they used to do in his day. So they needed a tooth extracted, they wouldn't go to the dentist because that was expensive. So they just tie a bit of string around, how they tie a bit of string round his tooth, I do not know, and then tie the other end to a door handle and stroked shut the door.  

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Sir, you know, you remember Sir Francis Chichester, the first guy to go solo around the world in the sixties or whatever. And he was not a spring chicken when he did that, was he? He was in his mid sixties, I think. Sometimes that. Yeah. Well, on if you not that I read it, but my mate read it because he was into boats and things, but I just wasn't really into boats. And,   apparently, somewhere on the voyage, the boom swung around and hit him in the front teeth and cracked   his tooth.   Yeah. Knocked it in half, basically. He lost it. Right? And it was giving him hell. So what he did was   he did something like that. He got some string, wrapped it around the tooth, wrapped the other end around the boom   when he was up to it, and then just pushed the boom like mad away from his face and just yanked it out that way. So   Yeah. Yeah. I suppose you gotta do on the spot dentistry. This probably explains a lot about all those pirates with their gold teeth.  

And and all that kind of stuff. Yeah. Tough old lads.   Plenty of salt water, I suppose.   I'll tell you what an improvement, though. I've had an improvement because of this particular suit because there was,   the filling was bridging over a gap with the next tooth.   So there's a gap has opened up in in in my teeth, a bit like the   San Andreas Fault. And it wasn't very wide.   Meat would get stuck in there. It was and I could get it out, but it's quite difficult with,   it's exciting show, this, isn't it? I didn't realize we were gonna really major on dentistry, but I'm getting quite carried away now. Anyway, so,   I get the floss, you know, to get the meat out, and it was a bit tricky. So she said, look, I don't really wanna bridge over. I said, no. Don't. Leave a nice big gap because then it'll be a lot easier   for me to get the stake out that gets stuck in there, and it will.  

And I said, apart from which, if I'm on a long walk, there's probably I could keep it up there and have a little bit of a snack, you know, halfway around. It's sort of like a little pouch. That sounds lovely. I mean, you know, folks, though. It's still lovely. And I had some lasagna tonight before the show with all the beef and stuff. Really good one, actually. And, with a big garlic salad, so I absolutely stink. But, fortunately, there's no one here. But if this was if if you could smell things on radio, I'm really like four bulbs of garlic right there. It's it's cool.   But I got the most enormous it's very satisfying. A huge chunk of meat on my teeth.  



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It's a great JATUP line, by the way. Hey. Have you seen what come out of my mouth? That's what I mean have beards, isn't it? Women don't realize that. That's why men have beards, you see, so they can store pits of food in the beard for later. Yes. See? That was the idea. Yeah. Do we do we need to make a disclaimer for all for the audience members? You know, we're we're sorry for this, the the the way that this conversation's going tonight. It's a bit mad. But, you know, I think it's really I think it's awesome. Is great.  

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It's really good what,   what you just said, Eric, because Roald Dahl   wrote this story called The Twits.   In fact, we bought a copy for our nephews years ago,   and,   it was when he's five or six or seven or something like that. He came up and he said,   thank you for the twits.   That's the way he said it. I just found it really funny at the time. But mister twit,   mister twit has a beard, And there's a drawing in there. Who's the guy that does all the drawings for,   he's brilliant, isn't he? Quentin Blah Blah Blah. Does all the drawings in Dahl's books. They're brilliant, brilliant. That does. Know.   Quentin Blake. That's it. Blake. Yeah. He does all these doodles.  

And he draws he draws mister Twit and his beard, but it's a sort of cutaway diagram. And there's all this different food that's in there, and it pointing all these arrows to it. Breakfast,   lunch.   That and that's how that's how you survive at sea. Anyway,  

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look, let me run through the names in the chat. It's absolutely flooded. So I'm gonna miss a few Two seconds before you do that. Just before you do that. I've read well, it was I think it was kind of early part of the year that Roald Dahl was actually working for MI five or MI  

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six? Oh, yes. I would hope so. He's very tall and handsome, apparently.  

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Yes. He was. I I I just found that very,   it's a curious thing, isn't it? There is there is got access to all those, young minds with his with his literature and and his, fiction. And and what a great way   to, you know, formulate   and manipulate.   There you go. I just thought I'd pop that in there.  

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There's something   strangely   compelling about his story because they've always got this horrible cruelty in them, which somehow makes it even better as a kid. And there really is a dividing line between the world of the children   and these evil adults that are going around. And some of them, of course, are absolutely terrifying, really.   He was posted to The United States after the war, I think, as an intelligence officer. He was six foot three.   I remember seeing a documentary about him, dashingly handsome,   married a film actress. You remember that?  

That oh, what's it called now? The Day the Earth Stood Still with Gort and Michael Rennig. Yes. You know that one? Yes. Yes. That one. Yes. The classic one. Well, the female lead the female lead. I've forgotten her name. She's very pretty.   So there's obviously, you know, the female leading it who's I don't know, I don't know if she falls in love with Michael Rennie. It's a bit difficult what with him being an alien like, but he was English or something, wasn't he? It's the same sort of thing.   And,   he married her.  

And she had,   I think, a massive stroke or something.   It's a really interesting part of Dahl's life. And they were deeply in love and all that kind of stuff as you as you are. She had a huge stroke, and she couldn't operate as an actress anymore because she couldn't remember anything. She was completely sort of incapacitated.   And he then looked after her and brought her back to full mental health over about two years. He gave up writing completely   and just worked on all these things and tape recorders and sounds and got her to speak again.   It's in the documentary. It's very impressive. You know? Wow. He   it really is. Yeah. And I take my hat off to him, I mean, because I'm I've kinda got an insight into what it takes to do that, unfortunately. And,   so, yeah, it's knockout, really. He's a top blow. But you're right, Nathan, about his his sort of connections in there into the spook space. I think absolutely.  



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It was just a curious thing that that I mean, I would never have have guessed. I mean, obviously, to me, you know, a group of Roald Dahl   being in the school libraries and, you know, it's just kind of that's what we read. And then it's like, oh, right. He's an intelligence operative. Right. Got you.   Quite scary.  

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I know. I know. Well, that's by the way, the let me give let me do a roll call anyway. Let's I've never done this before, and I'm gonna miss a few names out. So if I do, don't get cross.   But over in Rumble,   shout out to Maleficus Scott. Hello, miss Maleficus. Hey. Actually, I've got something for Maleficus. So every time he rocks up, this is what you've got to hear. Right? You've got to hear this.  

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Great Scott.   Great Scott.   Great Scott.  

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It's the great Maleficus Scott. So there you go.   Name that film or films. Yeah.   Hi, XO.   Woody Peak's in. Mark Anthony. Cool.   Oh, Kingston Whittler. Hello, Kingston Whittler.   XO again. He's in no. These are all the same things.   Oh, Oh, gosh. I need to actually increase the size of the screen or I need to get some new eyeballs.   Anyway, everybody Billy Silver, Alvin Kurt,   and a couple of others. Shelley Tasker. Hi, Shelley. Woody Peak.   Yeah. Over in YouTube, we've got I'm I'm now I've missed a few. Don't get cross with me. I'm not very good at this. Hi, aunt Sally. Nathan Lucius hanging around. Alice and gorgeous. Hi, Alice.   Yeah. Nathan Lucy. You're everywhere. You've got how many of the of you are there? This is really rather interesting.  

Yeah. Alice PR Spitfire,   Lord Lucan.   We found him at last. Well, welcome back, Lord Lucan.   Jojo Gizmo, Peter Croft, Alice Gorgeous, Aunt Sally, Gary Davis, Alice Gorgeous. I'm just reading the names out. Brad Brad Springgate. That's tricky to say, Brad.   Brad Brad Springgate. See? I can't say it. It's tricky. Steve Jones. Hi, Steven.   Gary   Garner, smashing the likes.   Gary Garner again. Maybe a different one. No. Not really.   Cool. Welcome, everybody. Anyway, it's good to have you along for the ride. Should we talk about something interesting now? Oh, actually, I thought it was great.  

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I know. I've got the roll call. I know. I think you did it really well. Yeah. That was good. Back to dentistry, did you know when when when we were kids, the dentists   used to put filling after filling after filling in. The reason why is they got a bonus for every filling they gave. So that's why you had fillings and you didn't need them.   So my mouth was like a bloody industrial thermometer when it got off. My my my jaws would open with the amount of mercury in there.  

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Yeah. I'm Joe slight exaggeration there. And No. I I love dentists. I did tell her, I said, you do know that you're amongst the two most important people in civilization. She said, no. We're not. I said, you are.   I said, this is my theory. Right? Dentists and dentistry and plumbing are the most important stuff. When you think when I think about it, I think it's my because if your teeth are playing up, I detest it more than anything else. I don't care whether it's a little or intense pain. If it's intense, it's even worse. I can't think.   I mean, some people probably think that's quite a good thing, really.  



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It's these days. It takes a while of pain, don't it?  

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Yeah. Yeah. There is that. And Oh, no. Don't think.   Yeah. I can't think now. This is great. I'm really happy. I don't know what's going on. This is bliss.   And if if there was no plumbing, it's gonna be a bit smelly. Right? Seriously, it's not good.   So I rate plumbing and dentistry. I'm not going anywhere without dentists and plumbers around.   And I can't I can't become my own dentist. I don't think I can, really. Got some great gear, though. They have all these sort of microscopes and things and electron lights and things looking into your mouth with TV cameras now. So they work in complete comfort, you know, tremendous.   Anyway,  

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so Hey. You wanna hear about dentistry today? Yeah. We do. Of course we do. What did the, what did the dentist say to the lawyer?   That's the other way around. What did the dentist say to the lawyer? What what did what did the lawyer say to the dentist? See, this is this is why I don't do jokes. It always comes out. Wait. I'm just so what do you say? You say, what did the butcher say to the dentist that said to the lawyer? Have I got this right? What's going on? Alright. Right. I'm just gonna just gonna come out with it now because I butchered it anyway. So there you go. Do you swear to pull the tooth, the whole tooth, and nothing but the tooth?  

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I know it's shite. I know. I know. You got that.  

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It's great.  

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That's a dad joke, Luke Nathan. I'm a dad joke. The right to tell crap jokes.  

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I think I think crap jokes, they're the they're the best really, aren't they? Because there's tons of them  

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and nobody really properly fully laughs at them because they're not really that funny. I mean, I I think he's been under gas, though. I think I think he has been to the dentist and he's nicked the,   what is it that oh, bloody hell. So there you go. This is this is my mind. Laughing gas. Laughing gas. Yeah. What is it? What is it? It's, Laughing gas?   Yeah. What's what's what's the   what's the term? What is it? Okay.  

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I don't know. Yeah. Shelley says, hey. Listen to this about toothache. Right? Well, you see, we've we've struck a nerve here. Sorry.  

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Oh, okay. Well then.  

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I'm just filling in. That's The trolling achievement.   Yeah. Absolutely steady.   I would   Shelley writes, I would rather give birth   than have toothache. Well, why not do both at the same time, Shelley, next time? That'd be great. Yeah. Kill two birds with one stone. That'd be great. And Alvin Kurt says, well, hey. I do plumbing. So we've got a plumber in the house. Fantastic, Alvin Kurt. If we've got any dentists in the house, give us a shout out and let us know.  

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I don't think we do though right now. They're probably we're not the sort of show that would attract dentists, are we really? Not not really. Well, here's another here's another random fact about dentists. They've got the highest suicide rate in, in all on all the professions. The the dentists are like the highest. That's right.  

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There you go. Yeah. And do you know the second highest suicide rate? Architects.  

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Oh, really?   Yeah. Well, I mean, that's I'm sorry. Hang on. Out these days. I'm not surprised.  

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No. Actually, it's in lunatic asylums. I think the the highest is dentists and the second is architects and lunatic asylums. Alright. Keep it got their mind. And working in an off architects office is the nearest to working in a lunatic asylum. Seriously. It can be. That's absolutely mad as a martyr. Patrick's in there lurking around in the middle of Wisconsin. He's written, you want the tooth? You can't handle the tooth. Oh.  

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That's pretty bad. Oh. He's just a little bit more. Bad that is. I like that. Yeah. Yeah. It's pretty bad.   Anyway,   we're talking about What do you think? What do you think? What first take, the Charlie Kirk thing. What's your thoughts?  

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Right. Okay. Can I can I step this up? Let's step it up a bit now. Right. Okay. I got a I got a random text from a a friend of mine this morning saying,   I can't believe they killed captain Kirk. And I'm like,   what the hell are you on about? So so then I've I've seen a couple more articles. I'm like, oh, that's what he must have been talking about then. Right? Okay.   So first of all, who is he? Because apologies if if he's a big name or or because I haven't got a clue who he is.   And secondly, because I've not had time to catch up with any, like,   you know, actual news this this week. What so what happened? I mean, so he got shot. I gathered that. Something to do with the protest.  

Fill me in on the details because no. Sorry. That was another dentist pun, wasn't it? Sorry about that.   I guess Well, he's, you'll catch on.  

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He he's been around for quite a few years, actually. I'm I'm not a follower because,   I haven't followed him much. I've been aware of him for several years. I don't know how many years he's been around. He I've and I've forgotten the name of the organization, but he's fronted like a an organization to appeal to younger people. He was 31.   So he Right. He was shot dead yesterday at the age of 31, married with two children,   a beautiful wife from what you can see from the photographs. And I just find this whole thing sickening. It's irrelevant what you think about his politics. It's just out of order. It's completely out of order, isn't it? And I you don't know what to say. You run out of words,   and not all the dictionaries in the world are gonna find the right words for something like this because there's something sickening about it on a fundamental level.  

And,   he basically was almost like had become Trump's emissary, as it were, to the neck to the younger generation. Alright.  

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So so American  

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policy. Right. Okay. So it's alright. Okay. Absolutely. You would he would be called a right wing extremist. It's nothing of the sort, but he's a conservative, right, or supporting the republican thing and about   at least sort of nosing back in the right direction. But he's been, up until recently, from what I can figure out from the things I've scanned today, up up until about the last few months,   an ardent supporter of Israel's position with with everything. And, of course, this is not attractive to certain people. I'm one of them. Not that I sort of get fully immersed in all of that kind of stuff, but that's kind of, you know,   that's   kind of been the reason why I've certainly not followed him. So he's been highly   criticized by, you know, people, well, of my age group and other age groups as well for this.  

But apparently, recently, he's changed. And I thought it might be worth reading out because it's brief. Nick Griffin has written a really good article on it, which helped me a lot. And shout out to my pal over in Idaho, Lily. She knows who she is. Thank you very much for sending me this earlier on. I'll just read you this. It's called,   Charlie Kirk assassination,   Ki Bono, I. E. Who benefits?   I'm gonna read it exactly as it's written. So this is the words of Nick Griffin. He says, who benefits from the assassination of Charlie Kirk? Many leftists loathed him for his role in bringing millions of young Americans to Donald Trump.   In the atmosphere of intolerant hatred fostered by the rhetoric and black bloc tactics of Antifa,   there must have been thousands of ultra left students fantasizing   about buying their first gun and shooting him dead.  

Likewise, many Muslims hated him on account of his repeated attacks on the very idea of the existence of Palestine, so this gives you an idea of what his position was, and his denial of the ongoing genocide in Gaza.   But do leftist students really have what it takes to carry out a professional hit and then vanish without trace, so far at least? I very much doubt it, and I very much doubt it as well. If it is true that the shot came from 200 yards away and it did hit him in the neck, that's   a lot of expensive gunnery   and training and cool, calm, calculated trigger pulling. And I hope the person that did it goes to hell, frankly. I think it's the sickening thing, although they're,   you know,   they'll probably never be caught, but I hope misery falls upon them and those that are near to them to the same degree. It's just disgusting.  

Nick goes on. He says, the situation with Muslims is a bit different. Significant numbers have combat experience and bigger balls than your average pencil necked leftist.   But a brown man at a Charlie Kirk rally would find it distinctly difficult to blend in, let alone disappear when the hero of the event has just been shot.   So who does that leave?   Here, I must make a confession. Owing, it's the same   situation I just outlined as well. He writes, owing to Charlie Kirk's long record of shameless shilling for Israel, I took my eye off him several years ago. I'm exactly the same. I simply couldn't stomach listening to his beautifully delivered Christian Zionist inspired propaganda lies or for that matter, his Ayn Randian enthusiasm   for capitalism   and occasional defense of the idea of letting millions of Hindu computer geeks flood the West.  

So I entirely missed the remarkable shift, and this was my first sort of awareness of this recently. Yes, at some point yesterday.   I entirely missed the remarkable shift in Charlie Kirk's position over just the last couple of weeks. A shift in position so striking that now it's been drawn to my attention puts his murder in an entirely different light. Here are the two most telling clips I've seen so far. I'm not gonna play them.   Actually, I could. Do you want me to play a clip? Let's see what he says here. I think it's about a minute and a half. Here we go. And Jewish donors,  

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they have a lot of explaining to do, a lot of decoupling to do   because Jewish donors have been the number   one funding mechanism   of radical open border neoliberal   quasi Marxist policies,   cultural institutions,   and nonprofits.   This is a beast created by secular Jews.   And now it's coming for Jews, and they're like, what on earth happened?   And it's not just the colleges. It's the nonprofits.   It's the movies. It's Hollywood. It's all of it. It's like time for you guys to wake up and say no more. Draw a line in the sand. I don't care if you hate me.  

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Charlie Kirk speaking there. Not me. Okay? You get the drift for where we are.   Nick goes on. He says, so within days of Charlie Kirk noticing the key role of, quote, secular Jews, as you just heard in that,   speech of his, and Jewish donors as the number one backers of the cultural Marxist woke war on Western civilization   and daring to speak about it on his massively popular and influential platform, Charlie Kirk is assassinated   in a professional hit.   And I think it has all the hallmarks of a professional hit. And so he goes on, he says, and within days of Charlie Kirk pointing out in his logical convincing way that Netanyahu and Co knew October 7 was coming,   so this is the arrival of Hamas. Of course, what many what they don't play up is that Israel funded Hamas,   and Netanyahu was part of the funding team to get it going. But let it happen as a way of keeping BB out of prison and preparing the ground for the next leap forward in the long march to greater Israel,   Charlie Kirk lies stiff and cold in the morgue.  

Unless The US authorities can find an arrest or more likely kill a very convincing leftist or Muslim shooter and quickly, millions of Americans will quickly come to the almost unavoidable conclusion that Charlie Kirk was taken out by Mossad.   His   crime? Waking up to the fact that his former idolization of the Israeli terror state and the people who built it was a grave error. Nick Griffin's words, not mine. I'm just reading it. And and   starting to make up for his previous falsities by doing what Charlie Kirk always did best, telling the truth as he believed it to be.   Except that this time, in the last two weeks, the truth as he believed it has been the actual truth or at least a very important part of it. And for that, this young father of two children and of the generation z Trump movement paid with his life.  

This is more than a murder. This is telling. This is his last bit. This is more than a murder. It's going to be one of the most important and significant crimes in the history of The United States. And I do think it's very early days. We're only twenty four hours after knowing about this, but it's got that feeling about it. I think it's one of those things that's emotionally so reprehensible and wretched   because what he was if you see any clips of him, Nathan, and there'll be there'll probably be plenty and everybody will be creating,   you know,   Charlie Kirk clickbait videos for the next few weeks. They're gonna be everywhere. I don't want to get in that's why I didn't put the name in the title. I didn't even know we're necessarily gonna cover this. Right?  

And in fact, the image for today's show was settled on five days ago. It's you know, we've not even really talked about psy ops, and I'm not saying it's a psy op. Yeah. Well, I do. I love it as well. It's great. And there is psychological operations going with all of these things. They're not necessarily covert. Sometimes they're in your face meant to actually demoralize you in a different way. Yep.   But think I think it is. I think this is major because all he did   was what we are trying to do, which is hold a civilized discussion   about what are con considered to be toxic topics, and we have to be very careful here about how we talk about these things, to engage in dialogue. And that's exactly what he did. He was going around these university campuses,   dealing with lots of pep purple haired left wing tranny supporters and all this kind of mayhem, cultural mayhem that sprung up over the last ten years or so or five years or whatever.  

And he was handling it really well. But, of course, by definition, it's confrontational.   You've got opposing views.   And many of the sort of clickbait things that you will see is him they'll say, Charlie Kirk takes apart a leftist. It never when you actually go and watch these things, it never comes across like that. It's actually relatively even handed. And it's based on factual   exchange, but they've always got to big it up in the titles. You get the drift.   Yeah. But if we can't you know, we've said it here before. If you cannot talk,   and we can't you can talk out any problem at all. But if one or more parties in a group discussion are not interested in that and are going to revert to violence, which is obviously what occurred here,   you're in a condition of war. I I don't know unless you've got a better word in your dictionary. I I can't think of one right now but there may be one.  

There may be one but, you know.  

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I think it's accurate. I mean, look, a friend of mine, Steve James, he he'll, you know, he's ex military, and he he he can map out what's going on in the world. You know? He he does it very matter of fact, and he can tell us he can tell us the military terminology that goes with it.   You know, we are at war. This is a spiritual war to mental war. It's an emotional war. We're we're we're at all fronts at the minute. We're being attacked completely and utterly by by the forces that are not to be. And, unfortunately,   they seem to be doing a very good job at what they're doing   because people are not   doing   the, you know, the work that they need to do. They're not they're not doing the proper research. They're not they're not thinking properly and critically. And I I can go into this later. I mean, obviously, you know, I've written about psyops. No. We'll do. We'll we'll carry on with this because we're we're gonna we're gonna end up talking about 09/11 as well because Oh, god. We've now got  

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well, we are because it's twenty fourth anniversary today. We're gonna have to touch upon this. I wanna talk about memory holding things as well because this is a key part of it.   And, so now we've got we've got 09:10   and 09:11.   So keep your fingers crossed that there's something done happen tomorrow, 09:12.   And then we've got 09:13   coming up by the American sort of calendar stuff, which is Tommy Trousers,   big doo dah, you know. And there's all sorts of repercussions with this. This event has taken up a huge amount of attention. It's diverted away from is it Qatar that got bombed   the other day by Israel? All sorts of there's manic things going on, and it's like a anyway, we're at the top of the hour, so it's time for a little tune and all that kind of stuff. Quick point. We're gonna place yeah. Station ID. I'm here with Eric and Nathan. We're gonna carry on after the break and carry on with stuff.  

So, here we go. We're just gonna do a little station ID and a bit of a song. Here we go. Can I do one quick Yeah? You can. Before we do that. You can. Charlie Kirk's death was reported by Netanyahu  

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three minutes   after it was declared.   How the hell did he know that fast?  

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Did he? That is curious, isn't it? But the, the fact   hold on to that thought, Paul. Say that again after the break because I think this and, there's immediately when you say that, there's another aspect to to the reporting on that as well. I think it's I think the reporting of that is part of the condition. Let's take a quick break. We'll be back in about four or five minutes.   Okay. Here we go.  

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I am the very model of the modern left wing technocrat.   Here is the strategy, the summary, the crux of where we're   at.   I am replacing   the population   with an underclass that's oh, so cheap to pay.   I am importing   into the nation.   Gazillions   of people in this way.   How many I really couldn't say. Cheap to pay.   These migrants, they do work for me. They sweep up all the streets for me and run the NHS for me and Amazon deliveries and raise the national GDP while driving low cost cabs for me. And once it's done, there's not a chance of ever going back.   The population   I am replacing   is getting agitated,   worried, and irate.  

I call them fascists.   I call them racists.   I put them in the nick for spreading   hate. Anyway, it's already too late. Far too late.   The locals,   they get so angry they claim they're treated differently. They say it's a conspiracy, quote, rape replacement theory, as if I'd let that bother me. I need a new cleaning lady, and once it's done, there's not a chance of ever going back.   The other way I'll   destroy the nation,   and this is one that fills me with great pride. I am erecting   abominations   in its towns and cities nationwide   and across its lovely countryside.  

Windmills of hypocrisy concreted for eternity. There's high street uniformity and shopping center drudgery,   apartment block monstrosities and offices monotony, and once it's done there's not a chance of ever going back.  

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won't   do now.   Our whole future   is   in doubt. What a rush.   These   newcomers now work for me. They own me, and they vote for me in care homes. Wipe my ass for me and have a larger family while you pay rent and tax to me. They help me rewrite history. You'll never own a property. If they rate kids, well, that will be ignored because diversity is trumping Christianity   until there's nothing left of me. And once it's done, there's not a chance of ever going back.   Not a blooming chance.   Not a blooming low.   Can't say   that.  



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Dominic   Frisbie, that was. Yes. And,   very well enunciated, wasn't it? Wasn't it crystal clear, the lyrics on that? Yes.   Yes. Yes. Is it very   modern gentleman or something, wasn't it? What was that from there? Yes. It's like I think it's a Gilbert and so a Gilbert O'Sullivan pastiche is that, isn't it? I am the very model of the model making general or something, but it must have been a minor bit from that. But I'm not familiar with Gilbert and Sullivan because I always found it a bit Twittery. I never quite liked it.   But it's really rather popular. I suppose maybe we should start playing loads of it because it's the sort of era of Britishness. And we've all got waxed mustaches and things and stuff like that.  

Yeah. Absolutely.   What were we saying? Yeah. Just Paul, that thing that you just mentioned. So he announced it.   Yeah. He announced it. Right? Almost  

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Yeah. Almost immediately this morning on the Radio Ranch, Roger Sales mentioned   that Right. Baby Netanyahu   had declared   that   Charlie Kirk died   three minutes Mhmm. After the declaration. Now the only way that could have happened I mean, you know, you can ask yourself, how the hell could that have happened so quickly? The only way that could have happened is if a if a Mossad operative   would have been in the hallway at the hospital   watching what was going on, just making sure that Charlie Kirk didn't recover and was on a cell phone in direct contact with the executive branch of the Israeli government   and said mission accomplished.  

That's the only way that could have occurred that quickly because   the time period between when he was shot and the declaration of death was less than, what, an hour?   You know, it,  

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there was no way So my take on it, Paul?   Occurred. Could've gotten there. My take on it is that the speed of the announcement is part of the whole operation.   It's meant to be like that. It's meant it's you're absolutely meant to get puzzled by that and to ask these questions, which you're gonna do, and to think it's them, which they want you to think. And they're basically in a veiled way letting you know that it is them, but they can't but not in a direct way.  

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You know, not in a direct way. Well, look at it as just another timing screw up. Like,   the news anchor   sitting there reporting that Building 7 collapsed   while the picture behind her clearly shows Building 7 still standing.   She reported it before it even got taken out, And then it was   imploded,   and it free fell within its own footprint.   Come on. Yeah.  

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I know. It's all timing for you. You know, last week   you know,   you know, last week we had a guest lined up who couldn't make it.   Remember? We had,   Eli James was actually scheduled to be on last week, but he had some very exciting fun, which you can tell us all about. He's actually arrived now in the studio. I'm just gonna pop him into the studio and we're gonna bring him on.   And,   there we go. Eli, good afternoon. Welcome to the show. Oh,  

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it's so wonderful being in the company of all these wacko conspiracy theorists.  

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I know. I don't know where I find I don't know where I find them, Eli. They're just everywhere. What can we do? Yeah. You have a you have a knack for that.  

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Yeah. There's almost as many on your side of the pond as there are on my our side of the pond.  

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Well, you've just probably had a big spike in them right now. I think people are moving from the position. Yeah. They're not conspiracy theories. People are moving to our position, I would suggest. I know this is snotty of me to say. But we're we're conspiracy   analysts, aren't we?  

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There you go. There you go. Yeah. I think now it's more of a reality   theory.  

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Right. Right. Well, I'm just getting really safe.   Yesterday's conspiracy theory is today's headlines.  

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Yeah. It is. You're right there. Okay. It really is. Yeah. Eli. Thank you. Was a  

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Everybody Let me let me just thank Eli for showing up because now it's even. Oh. We've got Patrick   Patrick, Paul, and Eli on the US side.  

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Oh, okay. And we've got three on the Britain side. Okay. Now it's easy. Paul was fit Paul was feeling a bit lonely, Eli. But Eli, tell us,   what was the exciting thing that happened last week? Because I didn't want what happened last week? Because you had some fun, didn't you? Didn't you get didn't you have some fun last Thursday?  

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Yeah. Well, I live on a a wide,  

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homestead.   This, this property was actually once was a runway   for a very wealthy person who owned the homestead, and he would land his personal airplane.   But it's now a cornfield.   Right? And so we were just piling trash up for the burn pile,   and it got the burn pile got really high. So I I better burn it now because it was a a calm day. Have to be   careful when the the weather's,   blustery.   Right? Because that because that's the whole county on fire. So it was a really good day to start a fire.   And then, the fire started to get out of control.   And started burning the grass around the fire. So I had to use a a quick thinking, and I dragged a a piece of metal around the perimeter of the where the grass was   starting to burn all around the place. Right? So I put the grass fire out that way, and then I forgot about the show.  

Okay?  

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It's a good one though. It's a good yeah. But it's a good it's a really good I like that. I like it. It's a good job. You didn't have any thermite. Otherwise, you might have melted some buildings. You didn't know it. It's a good I wish I Yeah. We don't want I I wish I knew how to make that stuff.  

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I'd know where to put it. I tell you I tell you where where to put it. Right?  

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Right? Oh, but when we ask those guys, yeah.   Oh, we are. Okay. Guys. Well, yeah, I actually I don't know what it it's just two things put together. It's,   I was watching a video the other day of some, the other the other gay, the other day   of some guy. Can't talk.  

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Yeah. A gay guy.  

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Oh, he had a laser.   Yeah. He built his own laser.   Yeah. And he was, I don't know, he was somewhere in the North in some woods and everything. He'd be in his sort of mid twenties. A bit geeky, but really very enthusiastic about these lasers that he was building. They were looking. Boris Karloff.   Boris Karloff. He and me. Right? Yeah. Well, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. But he,   he was firing at things, you know, as you do. Hey, let's see if we can make this bit of metal explode. But he actually put these two compounds in that create thermite.   And then from a distance of about a 100 yards, he hit it with the laser and it just off it went. It's just like instant. It just went and of course that thing   will burn through metal.  

But I don't want anybody to think that we're saying that that's what happened in 09/11 because the building just naturally fell down in their own footprint because they were hit by two planes as everybody knows because  

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the government told us that and it must be true. Right? That's that's what they use at Auschwitz too.  

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Is that right? What governments  

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lying to you? How else how else are you gonna kill 6,000,000  

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in a span of four months. Right? With yeah. Thermite.   With thermite. There you go. There you go. It's anyway, don't you find it interesting, Eli, and everybody else here? Here we are twenty four years   after that event. Twenty four years. And   it means basically that I've been in this house twenty four years because we'd been in this house one month   or two months before. We moved in the July,   so we just had August and then eleven days in September and then   that happened.   And,   Right. It's it's strange. My memory of it is as if it just happened just a couple of years ago all the time. I don't know what it's like for everybody else, but it's just Yeah.   It's still a pivotal moment, isn't it? It's pivotal.  



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Yeah. I was shooting darts at the local pub   when Were you? When   the when the when the towers fell.   Right. No. I was actually working at a at a an apartment complex replacing a ceiling, a drywall ceiling.   And,   we we had the, the the tenant had left his TV on. Oh, actually, no. What happened? A friend one of my workers found out that,   the towers had been attacked.   And so shortly after that, the tenant came home, he turned the TV on. And so we watched one of the towers collapse. And I said,   oh my god. That's the most beautiful demolition I've ever seen.   It was so obviously a demolition. I don't see how anybody could ever think otherwise. Yeah. Just like that magic bullet that, changed direction four or five times after hitting Kennedy's skull, and then it hit Connolly, and then it hit the driver, and then who who knows who else it hit. Okay. So this is what we're supposed to believe.  



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Oh, no. I'm sorry. I wasn't so sharp I wasn't so sharp on all this stuff back then. I was just still reading banking books like mad in 02/2001.   So I was Well, that's And I remember obviously being appalled by it and everything and looking at the, you know, the psychological shock wave of it. There's I mean there's that thing I've read out a few times the revelation of the method by Hoffman.   And I don't have it in front of me because I read it every now and again. I should have probably dragged it but there's a bit in it where he just I think it's only over one or two sentences if that.   Where he's talking about   he he mentions, I think it's 09:11.  

And what he says is when they've actually revealed to you, and now in twenty four years of research, the the evidence is overwhelming that the official story is, of course, what everybody here knows it to be. It's completely untrue.   It's completely untrue.   And what Hoffman points out, he said when people when there is little or no kickback on it, now there has been but the mainstream media will never pick it up and make it major kickback,   But he said that basically the the populace become doubly enslaved because   at some level they tacitly agree that they're governed by homicidal maniacs.  



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And this is and it's not changing anything about true. Right. Yeah. Right. Yeah. Right. This is true. Well, there was that song about by a black rapper,   that,   I forget what it was called. Oh, yeah. The the revolution will not be televised.  

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Yes.  

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Yeah. No. Everything else but will be televised.   Alright?   Okay. Yeah. I I should rewrite the lyrics to that song because it was the the intent of the song was to say that, you know, black people are gonna be oppressed forever. No. It's white people who are being oppressed, but it won't be forever   because the awakening process   every time they pull a caper like this you know, why is it always only right wing politicians that get assassinated   in broad daylight?  

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Why does the white people left? I think it is, isn't it? Can anybody think of a prominent left wing one that's ever been assassinated in Broadday Light? I'm hard pressed to know of one. I mean, you would know better than me, you being unfortunately the assassination world champions for political assassination, certainly in recent times, unfortunately.   You know? Yeah. But I I was at present here as well.  

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There's always   an anti Israeli activist,   either openly or quietly, an anti Israeli activist. Right wing, because there's no left wing anti well, there are anti Israeli leftist on campuses,   you know, because they sympathize with the plight of the Palestinians.   But, those people don't count because they're powerless. They think they're powerful, but they don't have any power that isn't given to them by the, chief executive of the Zionist.   Okay?   So  

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they protest all they want. They protest all they want. It's not gonna do any good. Okay. Of course. What's happened in Europe recently, Eli, is that there was this amazing coincidence where seven politicians of the AfD party   in Germany all died,   all within the space of a couple of weeks.   It's just a really very bad coincidence.   Even though the chances of it happening are one in nine billion,   it just happened, you know, seven of them, all from the same political party, not even spread around. It they were just very unfortunate, and there's nothing to see here   move on. I mean,   it's gonna be because memory holding, which is a phrase that comes from 1984,   sending things down the memory hole.  

I mean, we're Yeah. We're in a space where this is being refined to a a fine art. I was thinking even today when I was just having a walk up down the beach as I do of a Thursday,   every day actually, but I I always do it pre show. And I was just thinking   I need to, and I've mentioned this before and I don't, but maybe I need to start doing it. Or maybe some hardworking listener out there wants to do this. We need a kind of rundown of every event that's just happened in the previous month. And I bet you, when we look back at things that happened three and a half weeks ago, we'll have forgotten most of it.   We're being bombarded with one drama after another.  

Well, it's difficult. Isn't it? There's something about every forty eight hours now. Bang. Bang. Bang. Yeah. Yeah.  

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Oh, thank you.   In there as well. I I Of course you can, Nathan. Yeah. Part of it's information overload. I think we discussed this in a in a previous podcast. It's they're they're bombarding us constantly. And, unfortunately, with,   you know, social media and stuff like that, I mean, we go looking for it. I mean, I'd I'd I'd seem to be a YouTube addict at the minute. I just turn it on, and it's like,   it's just information overload. It's like there's too much to choose from. It's like you can't filter it out anymore. So, yeah, you're probably right. With all of this,   stuff going on, we do have to keep parroting it on because some of it's important to history, and it'll just be forgotten. You know, whether whether they've traumatized us to death, like, you know, say, you know, five years ago and stuff like that, or they they've walled us to death such as using the narrative of, you know, well, take your pick. It it does need to be   repeated because otherwise, it'll just get swept under the, the historical rogue. And then what, you know, we don't learn from it, do we? Anyway, I'll, I just started chipping there for that. So I'll stick myself on mute for five minutes.  



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No. You don't have to. Anybody listen to we've got quite a few around the mic, so we're pretty good at all this stuff. But don't go quite anybody don't go quiet for too long. I know. No. No. I've got the excuse of a sausage rolls waiting for me, mate. So I'm I'm alright for five minutes.  

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You've got sausage rolls. Yeah. Do you well, you can't talk about it earlier. I know. I know. I know. I know. My bad. Isn't it? It's Greg's as well.  

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Hey, guys. Is it Is that a is that a  

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is that a crumpet roll with with, syrup? Is that what you What what you don't have sausage rolls in America? I I don't know if this is like   You you do, surely. Right? Well, we we  

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well, we have,   pancakes   and sausage. We have pancakes and sausage.  

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Right? I mean, let's just let's just say it's something similar to that. It's it's I mean, you know, you gotta look up you gotta look up sausage rolls, mate. You're missing a treat. It's like it's like beans on toast. It's like I I had a I had friends in Sweden. Yes. Back in, like, oh, you put your beans on toast. I'm like, yeah. Of course I do. What else you're supposed to do with beans? It's like, oh, that's disgusting. No. It's not. It's great. Well Beans are toast. Right? Well, I I may be coming I may be coming to Europe  

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next year. So I'll I'll give it a shot.  

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Well, I'll tell you what, Eli. Nathan, keep those sausage rolls behind because it'll last that long. And then when you turn up, he'll be like, he can give you part of the one he's eating tonight, and you can see just how There you go. It's all natural it's all natural food, by the way. It just lasts forever, a bit like a McDonald's fry. Let's let's be honest. The amount of preservatives and additives in there probably would last a couple of, you know, decades at least. So, yeah, I mean, what I what I say food, what I mean is it it it goes in your mouth and comes out the other end.  

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When it's not food. To me, that kind of food in a way, I'm I'm gonna stop there. I'll see you in five minutes. It's it's it's it's stuffing.  

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It's mouth stuffing.  

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Oh, okay. Yeah. It is. Well, let's go with that. I'll I'll I'll, I'd that's add to that, but I haven't got a drink tonight. So there we go.  

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There you go. Well, wash it down with some ale, and you'll be fine.   Okay.   Yeah. The other fall. You're trying to say something there?   Okay.  

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Kinda going back. I I just did a quick YouTube search. Would be would we be labeled a subversive   program if I actually shared what the two ingredients in thermite   were?  

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Oh,  

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I don't think so. I think so. Maybe we would, actually. Let's not run the risk. But will you please, everybody get on the mailing list.   I don't wanna mess up. I I don't know if you would because if you go onto YouTube now   and find, say, those laser videos or whatever,   the that there's is what is it? There's just two things that you put together. What are they? Just say them.  

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Okay. There's two. Iron oxide. Aluminum.  

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Iron oxide. Aluminium, you mean. Aluminum. It's aluminum.   That's thermite. Oh, okay. Thermite is iron oxide and aluminum,   and there is a YouTube video   where they actually   had it eat through a car.  

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Right.   It ate through a car. Yeah. Through an engine block. The great Scott  

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Maleficus Scott wrote here, Paul, he said that thermite was used to disable,   the German railguns in World War two. So it's been around quite a while as thermite Yeah. The knowledge and use of application of it. Yeah. And it's it's used to install and and join  

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railway tracks.   Train rails. Yes. Right. That's how they work. It's like a soldering gun.   Very hot soldering gun. Yeah. Yeah. That's a hot SOB that is. Anyways, I didn't I didn't mean to interrupt, but I Next year. What I'd share.  

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No. Next year, it'll be available in in the child's play play department of your   department store.   Or are there do we still have department stores or are those passe?  

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Oh, yeah. Yes.   Yeah. It'll be thermite   play dough.   It's for those for those,   budding terrorists.  

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Yeah. Well Oh, you you it's like voodoo.   You shape it into your most hated personality,  

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and then it ignites. That son of a bee.  

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Yeah. Right.  

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Help with a population reduction, wouldn't it? You know, if you give the kids, see our children, go and play with your Play Doh. You know?  

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Yeah. Right? Yeah. Right there.   Yeah. Oh, yeah. Give give that to those Muslim kids.   Yeah.   Yeah.   So they're killing us. Why shouldn't we kill them?  

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I I mean, I didn't mean to back back. Has there been can I ask you in the  

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our our our US,   compadres here, has there been much coverage   of this being the twenty fourth   anniversary? I mean, do you think I mean, in a way, the the Kirk thing yesterday,   I'm assuming, has drawn nearly all the media attention. But has there been any address to this being the twenty fourth? And I mean, next year's the twenty fifth, so '25 seems to be a more powerful number, I guess. You know? Yeah. It's quarter of a century. But I'm assuming there must have been some coverage of it.  

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Well, I've heard a little bit about it. Watch TV, but there must be a bit. Yeah? I've I've heard a little bit about it, but my only two my only two go to news sources are the Radio Ranch in the morning and Paul English live in the afternoon on Thursday.   I really don't have time for anything else. So  

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Right.  

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I'm sure there has been, because Well,  

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it's been the whole thing is just orchestrated to avoid the war that's going on in some other country   that Donald Trump invaded and nobody he doesn't want anybody to know about it.  

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Really? What one? Yeah.  

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Woah. So Qatar?  

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Qatar. Oh, that one. Yes. Yes. Oh, yes. Yeah.  

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Didn't he promise that he there would be peace in The Middle East when he was reelected?  

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Yeah. Peace of this, peace of that, and peace of somebody else. There you go. Yeah.  

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Isn't the Qatar thing Piece of Qatar. And the Charlie Kirk thing, there's a parallel in a way in that they're both the Qatar thing is   has been completely downplayed.   But this is an ally of The United States, I understand. Qatar,   supposedly.   Okay. Supposedly. And yet there's been no mention well, there's there's there've been good relations. There's never anybody said we've got to go and have a war with Qatar, have they? No one's ever said I'm not it's like a a new thing.   And it's them going completely outside of their region and zone   because some according to them, some Hamas people were having a meeting there. Of course, it's never mentioned that they actually funded and built Hamas.  

This is just laid off all the time.  

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This does beg the question.   What happens when one ally of The US   attacks another ally of The US?  

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They both get shot.  

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They both get shot. What do you say? It's not really The US, is it? It's not you guys in charge of the US military. It's not Americans,   really, people that are loyal to your nation and your history as a people that are in charge of this. It's part of this global   epidemic of interference in all things. And, of course, you guys have been appointed as the muscle for now until you can't supply it anymore, in which case they'll transfer it to someone else.   This seems to be a history of the thing. Yeah. The military That's gonna be a problem.  

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Yeah. Go ahead. We're the military arm of the global trifecta of foolery.   US is military, London  

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is financial,  

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and Rome   is   spiritual.   Religious.   So trifecta foolery. Well,  

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darkness.   Darkness.   That reminds me in 1963,   which was a another trifecta year   because the,   we had the president Kennedy assassinated. We had Vatican two.   And what else? There was another third big deal   in 1963.   Oh, well, I can't think of well, maybe somebody else can think of what it was. But, we had a major trifecta.   And, well, I well, the,   there was something else going on in November  

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that year. Was there any Vietnam stuff? When was the Gulf Of Tonkin? That was '65, wasn't it, I think? No. '64. '64. Was it? Alright. Yeah.  

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Yeah. Yeah. Maybe we sent,   yeah.   Yeah. But, yeah. We're we're we're these conspiracy theories   that there's only one thing that explains all of this,   and that is that broad conspiracy theory called the hidden hand.  

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Yes. Yes. And It is. It's the hidden hand. Hidden hand. Yeah. Right. But it seems that everywhere I've most of the places I've worked on   have been blown up by some of it. For example, I worked on the Hong Kong Shanghai Bank, and the IRA blew it up soon after Yeah. Soon after I designed their dealing room, or was it part of the design?   And,   I worked on Qatar University. Now they bombed Qatar.   So,   next place is Saudi Arabia because I worked on a project in Saudi Arabia. I didn't go to those places. Well, the only one I went to was, one in London but I've never been to Qatar or Saudi Arabia but I worked on one in this country.  

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Hey, Eric. I've been thinking there about what you've been saying so so if if you're going around bombing the places that you used to work on, is there any chance that you could work on parliament?   Excellent idea. Yeah. It might need a bit of an architectural upgrade or something like that. I'm just just putting it I'm not I'm not advocating for anything Yeah. Just before I get arrested. I'm just saying, you know, parliament. Yeah. Good idea.  

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Anyway, I'll leave it at that before I get arrested. I was I was paid off because what happened is, in London one, I worked, it was actually the NatWest building, quite big building there, and it was the Hong Kong Shanghai Bank.   And,  

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a group of us went in there to design this this dealing room actually in the room that is gonna be dealt with. So it's really bloody  

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pretty bloody good it was because you, you know, you went out, did a few measurements, then drew us drew some out. And we all did quite a nice job of it. And they just played and finished it, and they all right. Bang.  

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Okay. Now what do you mean? What's a what's a dealing room? Is that, like, where they play blackjack with our lives?  

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No. Houses. Well, no. It's to do with,   banking, isn't it? The banksters   who deal with Dealing. Stock shares and cross nose. What you know, that that's what we do. I mean, the deal is on stock shares.  

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Yeah. Yeah. Okay. It's better than fun. It it is really it's not totally similar to what you said. It really might as well be blackjack because it's the same sort of, yeah, jiggity  

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the dealers we saw were looking on the look as if there was on the edge of a nervous breakdown. I was in the car's he broke. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Bloke walked in and he started bashing his head against the wall.   Yeah. And he he, you know, the the these people are burnt out by the time they're 30.  

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They're they're just Oh, yeah. They do. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They do. Yeah. But at least they're millionaires.  

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But   also, the this this office had just been decked out   with beautiful glass partitioning.   I think it was teak,   hardwood everywhere.   And they said, oh, we want a dealing room here. So what did they do? They came along and ripped the whole lot out and shoved it all in a in a,   a dumpster and, smashed all the glass up and everything. It must must have cost thousands.   Thousands just thrown down the drain. Terrible. Worst.  

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But Yeah. The building I guess   the   well, that was the they they didn't save it for anything? No. Not for  

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No.   No. They said that Didn't take Well, it's a bank, wasn't it? It was deal dealing with a bank.   And,   no. No. I mean, building industry is one of the most wasteful injures industries in in the world. I mean, the these these offices weren't used at all. They just finished them, and they decided to change them up. Okay. We'll have a dealing room. And that's it. Yeah.  

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They've just finished them. You know? But we're gonna blow it up anyway. So  

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I don't know. The IRA Yeah. We're gonna blow it up. But I think the, I think British Intelligence ran the IRA, didn't they? Something like that.  

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Sure. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Eric, have you have you been interviewed for someone to get a list of all the projects that you've worked on?   That's a good idea. Yeah. Because they're probably gonna say, oh, we see a pattern here. Yes. There's the hand of Von Essex is is ripped large across this   across this history. I mean, it might be used Eric, because I won't mind a list because maybe we should be canny and take and get some bets and get some and start, you know. So I just have it like they did with the airlines on 09/11, you know, all that weird   stuff. There's so much evidence on 09:11 that's not even to do with the buildings, but the buildings are learner enough. But, yeah, I just wanna Well, it's just a bit of a in the Twin Towers, did you, Eric? You didn't have a hand in the Twin Towers? No. I didn't work on them. But if you see some crap houses being built up but blown up because I've I've I've designed a lot of crap houses.  



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So you see them being blown up. You know, there's a pattern going on. You know? Loads toilets were blown up in   Yeah.   And filled borough council. We don't know why.  

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Yes.  

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I've just You guys are   you guys are now actively pursuing this.  

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Yeah.  

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Right?   If you think about it, it's gonna happen.  

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Yeah.  

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Alright? That's all I Do you Let let's not get into manifestation  

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all that. No. Any moment.   Yeah. Oh,  

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you're not a new age group?  

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No. Well, I'm about as as opposed to the new age.   I've gotta be careful when I say it because I offend someone. Doesn't matter what I say. I'm gonna offend somebody. So if I offend you, I'm kinda sorry, but not really because you all need to kind of, you know,   pick up your act and and and look into this stuff a bit deeper.   But there you go. I was just gonna say that I think I think I'll put another caveat in in in terms of what we're saying here in The UK. We're not advocating for any any harm or violence. I just thought I'd pop that in there before we genuinely would get arrested for it. Because now, you know, obviously, over in America, you still got your freedoms of speech.   We've been completely stripped of that, and, so I just thought I'd I'd put that in there just in case. So But but how's your delenuine  

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gonna feel if we don't like violins? I don't I don't quite understand that. Well, I yeah. I know I just, you know, I'm just covering our arse. He's probably he's probably looking down from heaven, looking down. So these people don't like violins. Oh, sorry. Violence, you meant. Sorry. That's that's the one. That's the one. Well, yeah. That's the one. We have this event, don't we, coming up with Tommy Trousers on Saturday. Yes. That's gonna be. And this thing with Kirk, I mean, it spreads it's a transatlantic story, obviously. I've seen a lot of posts over here,  

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tons of stuff. You know, Mike Graham,   who   does probably the best.   The the one that's nearest to the truth type radio show on a morning, and he gets some pretty good stuff going.   And, he put a post in about it. The responses on on x were pretty interesting. They were all telling him to be careful. They'll be coming for you. All this kind of stuff. I saw Jeremy Clarkson, you know, the car guy. I think he's his show's been over in The States as well, Top Gear and all this. It's not about drugs, by the way.   And he   he put a post up saying, for the first time in my life as a journalist, because he still, you know, moonlights as a journalist and and does all sorts of things there.  

He said, I'm I'm actually   I'm anxious for the first time. And everyone was saying, but you just talk about cars.   But it there is that's why I think it's quite weird, this one with Charlie Kirk. This is not   a guy that's been   advocating for anything bad at all. He's just been conducting   conversations.   Whether you agree with him or not is not the point. The manner in which he did it was civil, courteous, to a point. Pretty good, you know. But this theme that he's changed tack that we were just reading out that article from Nick Griffin,   you would be a fool to ignore that. That's all I'm saying. We're not saying it is absolutely that, but it would be a bit ridiculous for you to turn a blind eye to that and see that he had changed his tack in this way. And this whole Gaza thing with them, I mean, I've even there's some people that I know who never ever even talk about politics. So this is also an a really powerful litmus test, I think.  

Somebody I I know who's on Facebook or somewhere like that,   it's actually I don't really know them personally, but I know what they talk about and stuff. And they said, look, I never do this, but I'm gonna put a political post in. And they mentioned it, and they there was a a huge number of responses,   both pro and con, with people coming out with arguments that   are not worth covering here because we're all familiar with them. But the mere fact that people are willing to talk about it and bring it because people are they are outraged about what's happening to those children in Gaza. It's just literally slaughter.   And I can't we can't talk about that all the time. You think, oh, you don't care.  

It's like you don't have the capacity to be worn out by these things all the time. This is a great part of this sort of psychological operation.   Like, you're of we are being literally overwhelmed   with   the most appalling stories. I mean,   we just are. So it's like brace yourself. Friday's not yet started, but something could happen. Then we've got this thing coming up on Saturday and I just think you've got to feel that the government are just so tempted. And I think didn't you put a post up today, Eric, about the you know, we've talked about the flags. Yeah. And it's gotta be stressed. Now the thing is so well organized. I thought the point you made about all the flags being at the same height, I noticed this when I went up to London on Tuesday.   They've all got, you know, what is it,   those plastic ties that what they're called now? Yeah. Zip ties. And they're all the same height. Yeah. Someone's been out putting tons of it and going,   who's done all? It's so many of them. I mean, I'm so impressed with the, the guys in London who take the chainsaw. They've taken down 5,000   of those,   speeding cameras and all that kind of stuff. You know, the tracking cameras, they just keep sewing them down in the middle of the night. That's just amazing. Lay labelers.  



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I think they're called labelers. Yeah. Cool names. Town lumber lumberjacks. That's another one, isn't it? The the lumberjacks.  

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Mhmm. Yeah. I my lumberjack and I'm okay.  

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Yeah. Yeah. I know I know chopping trees down, folks, very much. I like the trees.   I just on what you're saying now though, even even on the the like, where I live at the minute,   there's flags everywhere gone up and it's like, yeah. Then it's like you say, there's there's a specific height to it. It's very, very organized. It's not this is not authentic this is not a   rising of the people this is not you know this is definitely   some   what's a sigh up let's just call it for it is it's a massive sigh up it's a massive operation and god knows what's gonna come of, next Saturday I don't I dread to think because   it's gonna go bad it you know and I mean to be fair anything anything with Tommy Robinson involved I'm staying the hell away from it. Uh-huh. It's okay. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I won't go anywhere near the bloke. Well Well, he he's a he's a Christian now, you know, Nathan. I saw a little clip from him. I yeah. Though he was being asked this question, so who decided to ask him that question at this time?  



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Who doesn't know? So to polarize, now we've got Christians. Let's get it all going. None of it will achieve, and it's just gonna create the melee that they want to be able to come up with a causative reason to invoke some step toward martial law. Even the fact that we know it and are saying it is not gonna stop it.   Who was it that was a problem. We were talking to in advance.   We were talking to the other Nathan. I don't know if you caught it on Monday. Eric Janley invited me onto his show.   And he was talking about the fact that he'd witnessed the police in in training five and six months ago Yeah. With all, you know, one side was all dressed up in Saint George's crosses and they were the coppers getting ready for this.   I mean, none of these things are spontaneous. They're all pre prepped.  



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It's, you know I mean, Nepal, I don't know whether that's I don't think that's pre prepped because they actually burnt the government house and they got, was it I think the chancellor. They're they're chucking him in the water. Have you seen those pictures?   Oh, yeah. Yeah. They stuck him in a river, didn't they, or something? Yeah. Yeah. I don't know whether he's got his trousers on or off, but I don't know. But, you know, they lopped him over a wall when he sort of,   yeah, manhandling him.   Whether that's   real or not, I don't I don't know because there's so much fake on the Internet. You just don't know.  

But,   Nepal, well,   let's put it this way. Every revolution   is financed   and planned,   not for the fight not for the good of the people. It always turns out for the bad of the people. Because you look at the end of every revolution,   they're extremely bloodthirsty.   It's genocide   for what?   Look at the French revolution.   It's always the same.   And it is it's horrendous. It really is.   But,  

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I It's like a mass culling, isn't it? It's like it's like a ritualistic   calling every so often through history. I mean, you know, if we're in about revolutions, the ones that that would terrify me, and I think it's coming.   Obviously, you've got the Chinese, the Cambodian, you've got,   forget my bloody revolutions now.   I mean, that that that's enough to get to get going. I mean, you've got Well, the Russian exactly. The Russian revolutionary. Yeah.  

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That was terrifying. Russian. Well, that wasn't Russians. That's a strange thing. It the the the revolutionaries weren't Russian.  

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And Well, so this thing that's going on here quite certain. Yeah. Yeah. This thing that's going on here has got the hidden hand in it up to its neck.   Yes. It must have.   And I think the logistics, you know, like, who paid for the flags?  

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Yeah. Where's the money coming from? It's not only that. Something else occurred to me the other day, Paul, which is,   okay. So so where I live, it's not exactly,   you know, it's not exactly middle class or rich or anything like that. You know, the I mean, it's got some nice areas around here, but I'm thinking these guys can't afford flagpoles, and and there's there's so many flagpoles going up in people's gardens. It's like, yeah. You can't afford it. Who's doing this? And then something else   I cottoned on to, and I may maybe this is a bit of   an an awkward judgment. You know the bikers that are going around with, ski masks on?  

I've heard of them. Yeah. There's there's quite a lot of them around here. There's there's, well, there's too many of them. And they're definite I I think   there's a link to that as well I I and again I can't prove this so this is this is theoretical from my perspective   I think that they are also being   I think it's deliberate let's I'm gonna say no more than that because I don't wanna get myself in trouble I think it's deliberate I'm wondering if it's linked to all of this, you know,   let's say nationalistic  

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uprising or whatever you wanna call it. Well, you're right. You you spot on because let's face it. If there's a run on things, look at toilet paper when this COVID thing started. A run on toilet paper. I know. That was a good run.  

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You had a run on your toilet paper. You couldn't look at that, mate, because there was nothing to look at. Everyone had anyone everyone had emptied the shops for. That was terrible. The shut the shelves are clear. So you wouldn't be able to buy a flag  

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at all from anywhere. There'll be a shortage of flags.   Yeah. These flags must have been bought a long time ago  

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and stored.  

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And I've got To get them out that quick and that fast over a couple of weeks, a million flags or whatever it is,   Like we said, someone's sitting on a warehouse or there's a distributed warehouse network that's just got it all worked out. The logistics are considerable. It's a million orders.   I mean, you go, oh, no. That's easy. People and there's no questioning in the media ever about about the logistics. It's like if you look at the logistics of any of these things, you go, how the bloody hell did they do that? Who paid for that? Has anybody have we got an investigative journalist that can get on the money trailer, wear these orders? Has somebody not contacted the suppliers and say, where are the orders? I I can't speak about that. And then they can start to report and that's saying there's a a wall around this   delivery system for the flags in this case. And it's a bit like when you see the lefty guys rock up. They've always got these immaculately printed posters   and placards, haven't they? They're sort of really well made with, you know, full color jobs and all laid out. What these Herberts in the thing, they wrote all those, did they, and printed it up? I don't think so. I'm not saying that printing's complicated. You can get to it. But they don't strike me as the sort of people that could do that unless they were they were paid for, and we know it is rent a mob. And I think it's interesting what you say about the bikers, Nathan, because it's as if every single sort of little pocket   of our cultural sub pocket of the nation is being galvanized towards some kind of physical marching presence on the streets, all this all at the same time. All at the same time. No one's saying, can we just sit down and talk? But then, of course, we're dealing with our government, and that's one of the things they actually can't do. They're not capable of communicating. I mean, this is crystal clear. They actually can't talk properly, not with any sense or with any dignity or with any sense of authority because they don't have any, obviously. I can't. I can't. I'd I'd like to add to that, but I can't. I mean, you you you bang on. I mean,  

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it's   you know, if any common sense came out of parliament, they'd have to rename it, wouldn't it? That it's just  

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Yeah. I mean, a quick shout out to everybody in the chat. Is anybody going? If you if you're going, be interested to know if anybody actually does go,   will you make sure you rock up say on Fockham Hall on Monday or this show next Thursday and give us   an on the ground report? I'd be very   if you're not going, good. I'm not really bothered. We'd rather not have a report and you not go and be safe, to be quite honest, because I just think I agree with you. I think it's been nasty dangerous. Comment sorry. There's a there's a comment now, which is interesting. It's it's kind of, appropriate to what we're saying by smashing the likes.  

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I'll read out if you like. It says, I must be honest. I can't agree with the flag situation. I've been out and put them up all over the place. I live in with a lot of my friends.  

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I extended my double ladders seven foot to run up and bump. Well, I don't understand that bit. But, anyway, I mean, so so that's an interesting one. He said he's also going on the thirteenth. So somebody's answered you in the chat. That's an interesting Yeah. Smashing the likes. Hi. Smashing the likes. Yeah. Over on YouTube. Says I'm going and I'm not a knuckle dragging fool. No. I didn't we didn't think you would be. We don't get any of them around here listening to this sort of show. We're all we're all like us. So fantastic.   Well, be safe. And if you wanna call in next week or get in touch, please do. We it'd be very interesting to know what your view is. I'm sure you can stand in the right place and make sure any melee you're not get so if it kicks off. I tell I mean, I think Paul who called into your show left a message, Eric, the other day came up with a brilliant idea, which is no one should go, but that's not gonna happen. But I'm thinking that if they all do go, they need to have ten minutes, not a minute, ten minutes of absolute silence and non movement. Just stand still,   do do it. That would be so overwhelmingly powerful Yeah. And not let anybody agitate. Just shut up for ten minutes and let silence reign. It would be that would put the creeps up them. Because what you've got in silence, you've got absolute unity. You know that thing, I know it gets weary because you're always all conformity, but you've got strength. You go, at least we can all we can't all say the same things because we're all gonna disagree, but we can all shut up at the same time. It's very silence would be very powerful. Who knows? Maybe a miracle like something like that might happen. Okay. That's what I do in Turkey.  



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I just sorry, mate. Just just before you well, I mean, you you just requested, an investigative journalist to be on the streets. Well, I think I think you just found one in the chat there. I mean, maybe you could,   do a little bit of recording for us and then feed, you know, feedback next week or next week's show. I don't know. Maybe call it to the show. I'd be interested, to see,   you know, just anywhere. Right. I just thought I'd throw that out there.  

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That's a good idea because in Turkey, they do the silent protests. They stand in total silence outside the government building with their placards,   don't say a word, and the police are stuffed. They don't know what to do. Can't arrest them. Arrest them. And if they tell them to move on, they move on, and other people play take their place.   So it's like a rotary thing rotor thing, and   it's very, very effective. We gotta use psychology, and that's and it's true what Paul said on the show the other day. No. If no one turns up, what what that would be the best protest ever. So all the police there waiting and there's nobody there. Or they might have one blow, walk along with a placard and that's it. And I mean, just  

[01:46:52] Unknown:

Well you know you've just you've just said something else there   Eric which is which is about it's you know it's about psychology that's that's the whole thing that people are missing here   this is a cult psychology this is high grade a cult psychology that that I mean what I'm calling it a cult for the simple fact that it's been it's been hidden from people,   and and yet there's there's plenty of information   on the internet now there's plenty of information on YouTube even there's plenty of books out there's plenty plenty of take your pick   psychology is one of the most accessible subjects and the most popular subjects in in the world at the minute. Go and figure this stuff out because there's so many,   you know, avenues you can take through this and it explains so much. I mean, I've I've been digging it with something chronic. Again, I've gone into it in my book. I've gone into psyops in my book, and they they are directly linked. You know? If people understood,   how to recognize mind traps and and,   automatically reacting with emotional outcomes and stuff, you know, without burst and things like that,   If if they had a better grounding of understanding, they couldn't do the the the tricks. They couldn't pull these psyops over over the people because we'd be wise to it before it even begins. You know?  



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Let me give you,   a definition of a psyop because in hour three, I wanna talk about the old one. We're gonna we're gonna hop Yeah. Back into the topic we were covering last week, which is the scriptural psyop. Let's call it that. But I've just done a quick search here on   Google. Yeah. Good old Google. It says this, a psyop or psychological   operation   is a military activity that aims to influence the beliefs,   motives, and behavior   of target audiences to achieve specific objectives.   Essentially,   it's a form of psychological warfare   that uses selected information, including propaganda, to sway the perceptions and attitudes of individuals, groups,   or foreign   governments. And groups are the easiest ones of the lot. Anybody's that's even touched upon, Gustave Le Bon's The Madness of Crowds will know all about this. There's several things about this. And   groups basically become mindless,   and they're very, very dangerous things. They're very easily swayed, particularly on emotional stuff and things like this, which is why, unfortunately   yeah. Fear.  



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Absolutely. Fear is a big one. Yeah. Mhmm. Yeah. Well, Matthias definitely falls into it as well about about, I can't say the word on it because it's for some reason, they they've they've got an attack on it, but I'll say   mass   formation theory. Let's go for that. I think I can get away with that if I say mass formation theory. And, yeah, your groups are easy to manipulate because they fall into kind of like   a a sheep herd mentality. One you know, it's it's kind of like they all synchronize with one another. It's crazy. Right. Yeah. Well, you you know what you know what the conspiratologists  

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call it? The hive mentality.  

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Exactly. And I like your hive mind is  

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hive mind. And,   actually, Nathan, as to who was gonna do a show on it, this this sort of thing where people seem to be hypnotized.  

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Yeah. Massively. I mean, again,   just just to just to they they are hypnotized, mate. The whole of society has been hypnotized for in one way or another. We've all we've all been mind controlled. We've all been socially engineered.   The the one thing that I've picked up on lately is is the whole people are not,   reacting to situations intellectually. They're reacting emotionally. And this this is a wide scale thing, and I'd love to go in. In fact, I have already started research paper on this about about the fact that that people are reacting emotionally and and a lot of the things that are triggering that as the algorithm of all things, it's getting people entrained to to almost   act like robots responding to other robots that have been conditioned and programmed by by some By robots. Technology.  

Yeah. No. By other robots. Alright. Exactly. But but this this is what we've become. We're we're we're just reactive   machines, and it's it's quite bizarre watching it because, you know, we we we're supposed to be an intellectual species, and I'd like to see a little bit of that from time. Supposed to be. Yeah. Right. Exactly. Well, Ted Kaczynski had it right. He he was saying that,  

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technology is gonna dominate over us, and we'll be able to fight back. But, you know, what did he do? He he sent pipe bombs to people and killed them. I mean Yeah. I guess that's the only way you can get publicity these days.  

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So, I mean, his his documents Kosinski's documents are so spot on   and accurate. Uh-huh. And you realize that when you're reading them, you're dealing with a highly intelligent man who has spent a considerable amount of mental firepower paying attention to this stuff to see what it is. But we we have this massive communications challenge. It's like you've got people on   like at school, you've got five year olds, literally speaking, and you've got 18 year olds.   And if you if you get beyond being, you know, figuratively speaking, the 18 year old stage,   it's almost impossible for you to communicate things with all the detail to five and six year olds. It's not that they're thick. It's just that they've not been around enough to acquire all this stuff. There might be a few exceptions.  

But that's the key thing. No one's paying attention to it. It's what I was talking about with my friend on Tuesday, this thing about an internal it's just an attitude. It's actually not about intellectual intelligence.   It's really I my take on it. It's really about   why is your heart   not getting shattered by this like mine is? That's what I don't care. Why are you not feeling this? And I suppose they don't feel it because it's their their emotional circuits are absorbed with football, beer, guff Yeah. And all sorts of other trash. And they've become   acclimatized to a ritual in their life. We all do. I mean, they're quite nicer rituals in a way. You go, yeah. Well, like, because I have. When I get up at this time and have a cup of tea, and if I and I'm very excited I'm very excited.  

I'm like a Pavlovian dog and I'm going, oh, boy. Tea's coming up in about fifteen minutes. And it gets my day off to a start. Now that's quite harmless, I think, unless there's some great toxic danger in tea drinking. I don't know there possibly is. I was going to say it was alright for a minute.   Yeah. Sure. Okay. Like, we'll see we'll see in a minute.   Okay. So   I think that's,   that's a key it's just a key part of all these things. I'm hope maybe something wonderful will happen on Saturday, but I'm not gonna hold my breath.  

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Yes. I agree. But I actually think people are in shock   because shock takes people back   to childhood. Not all shocks, but some shocks do. It's it's collective traumatization,  

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maybe. Again, it it part it is part of that. It's but it I mean, it's it part of it. I mean, it's fascinating just watching it unfold. I mean, again, it's it's frightening because I'm I'm in it. You know? I mean, I'm I'm gonna be affected by it just like everyone else here, but it's,   if you can take yourself out of it, at least partially, and just look at it objectively. And it's it is absolutely fascinating. But, yeah, I mean, it's it's  

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well, I suppose   are you expecting I know I am. I just realized this. I'm expecting it to be covered by the BBC,   and it might not be. Do you remember during COVID, they had three marches,   didn't they? Over one in the early part with over a million on everyone. There wasn't nearly a peep. Nothing   at all No. On mainstream media.  

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Because you know   yeah. But Hidden Hand runs the ABBC, so I think this one might be televised.  

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That's what I mean. The fact that it's gonna be televised is telling you that they want it televised,   isn't it? It it is not even again,   it's never the content. It's the context always. If you keep stepping back and going, how did that happen? How come it happened then and wasn't available   four years ago when people were just as concerned about that? They want it to happen because they showed you that they can shut it down when they want. So when it's coming through, it's because they've opened the portals because that's what they want as well. They wanna open them up. So we're gonna have to see. It's gonna be interesting to see what the so called mainstream coverage is gonna be like, you know. There's something else which people sorry. Carry on, Nathan. No. No. No. Sorry, mate. I was just I was thinking with the protests there, you know, you you mentioned I mean, there was a fair few that I attended. I think I think there was about 15 in all over that period  

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because I was at a few myself, including the big ones.   And as much as the BBC would say that, oh, there's a couple of 100 people there, you know, 500 people at the protest. It's like, well, clearly,   I can't see the beginning or the end of the of the the march. Right? So there's a few more than than 500 people.   The good thing about that is all the people on the on the sidelines with their phones out, all the ones that were masked up, all the ones believing in the narrative,   they saw it. Right? And then when they switched the tellies on after the event and they're told there was 500 people, they'd be like, well, hang on a minute. No. There wasn't because I was stood there recording it. There's a few do you know what I mean? So that that can kind of backfire, and I think it has backfired.   A lot of people say that protesting doesn't work. I think I think it does, just not the way that people want it to. But again,   I mean, you know, it's great for motivation. For one thing, it's great for, for raising your your energy levels and and for for galvanizing people together and stuff like that.  

Equally,   it's a wonderful way for the, the parasites to, let's say,   control us en masse and and to to get us to to act out certain planned events.  

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So, you know, it's just a case of being careful, isn't it? Anyway, sorry for interrupting you there, mate. I just want to That's alright. But there's a there's a prepper who I won't say who it is because I suspect he might be working for the other side. I don't know, but he just looks as though he does. And he says, was it things take forty eight hours   to to to happen. And this is what happened in Nepal. First of all, they,   shut down social media.   Then   what happens? People go out on the streets.   Then   other things happen, and it all seems to take the same path,   which is which is a bit sort of strange. But it's one thing I've noticed.  

Now for example, now it may sound as if I'm going off the beaten track, but but stay with me. You know those scooters   that that that you know those ones like, next to the Do we dare? You know the ones I mean, the small ones that fold up and you can go along the road on the electric, little tiny motors on them. Yeah. Yeah. You mean the ones that South Park covered and then suddenly they were literally everywhere just like South Park predicted there would be? Yes. Now this country Yeah.   Yeah. But the weird thing is this country,   everywhere else in Europe,   you can ride them legally   around. This country, no. They keep putting off a decision.  

The decision has been put off until next year.   And I think they realize those things   are perfect   because the speed they go, you can go 20 miles an hour on those things.   And if there's any,   rioting or anything like that, and you've got those scoot most people have got those scooters because they're very cheap, they can be in a place very quickly,   and you can't control them.  

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They can. I've gotta step in now, Eric. I've gotta just step in because we're coming up to the end of our time slot. Hold on to that thought. We're coming up to the end of our time slot here at WBN.   So thank you very much, WBN, for taking the show. Always a pleasure, and, we hope you've enjoyed it out there at the WBN listeners. We'll be back again same time next week, 3PM US eastern, 8PM in The UK. We're gonna carry on the show over at paulenglishlive.com   if you wanna carry on where Eli, James, and I particularly, but everybody else is welcome. We're gonna talk about one of the oldest psyops,   a continuation of what we were talking about last week. In the interim,   here's Lou Rawls with a song called The Politician.  

How about that? We'll be back after this song. We'll see you all on WBN   same time next week.  

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See the politician.   See him kiss the baby.   See him help the little old lady   cross the street.   See the   politician.   See him making   speeches.   Tell them everything's   screaming. Beaches   that peace is needed.   Oh, the politician's   lips are moving,   but a mother's prayer is all I   see the politician,   see him push the button.   Hear the children screaming   as the bombs explode.   See the politician.   See him   kiss the babies.   Hey. He's sweet.  

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He's not that sweet, is he? He's not that sweet.   That's what Keir Starmer thinks of it. That was, The Politician by, Lou Rawls. Really like that. It's groovy. You know what? It makes me feel all seventiesy or sixtiesy, that that thing. I don't know what it is. Anyway,  

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welcome back to hour three. I I don't know where you get your music from, but some of it's really, really good. I can I can sit here thinking, oh, do you know what? I've never heard that before, and I can't I kinda like it. So there you go. It's another one I like. Because Yeah. It's because I'm very, very old.   Yeah. I'm told that I'm old. So so these days, I'm just like, I like that. What do you call me, Eli?  

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Eclectic.   Eclectic.   You have your own tastes and go with it.  

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Yeah. That's right. It's as well that the mood is. It's not I thought eclectic.   I thought it was a nervous condition, but it's not, is it? I'm thinking of another word. Yeah. That's when he starts shaking. Figure it out. I'm using it with a little fit.   I'm having an eclectic fit. That's what's happening. Anyway. Absolutely. There you go. Anyway. There you go. Welcome back to hour three.   Yeah. And and,   those that were listening last week, obviously, Eli just got carried away burning things. By the way, Eli, when you were talking about someone writing, I can't remember what it was, said, did you find a passport in the fire?   Oh, I like it. I like that comment. I'm sorry that I can't credit you. I can't see who it was. But top comment, that's absolutely fantastic.  

So take a bow wherever you are. Yeah. You probably did.   But,   last week in the last hour, we were talking about   scriptural truths and the tracking of people. And, okay, this is a bit of a thin sort of segue, but I'm saying it's probably one of the oldest psyops in terms of the confusion around that. That'll do, won't it? I can get away with that a little bit.   And,   I just wondered,   you know, I know you you I've known you quite some time now, and I I was referencing you last week, of course. We've known each other maybe twelve, fourteen years, something like that. It's quite a while. Works. Yeah. Yeah. And it's it's been fantastic. But you cover this stuff all the time,   and I was doing a kind of   sort of one zero one of it last week. I mean, there's there's a huge amount of material to cover on these sorts of things. Had a lot of good feedback, actually. I got a few emails from people, particularly along the lines of, I've never heard this before.  

Where can I find out more about it? I, you know, I forget this when you've been talking about a thing for many, many years.   Yeah. Excuse me. Yeah. You kind of forget that you can check live on air, which I just did. Well,  

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at least he wants a bullet.  

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Yeah. Just lower a bullet.   No. Thanks. That's good. Phew.   Phew. This is a good day.   But I wondered I wondered if you wanted to say something. I wondered if you wanted to just say something as an orientation, you know, a sort of context setting state about what we're talking about here. Because what I was addressing last week, you know, the reason I I address it is I think it's it's massively vital.   And I did have a couple of really good chats with Eric afterwards, you know. Eric, I'm just paraphrasing what you said, but I talked to Eric, called me up on Friday and saying that when you get this part of it and by the way, I understand there are people that reject it. That's cool. That's okay. Right? We've got that. It's a discussion thing. But one of the things that we were suggesting last week, I'm just using soft language on purpose,   is   that once you've got this key, it explains   or provides the context for   just about everything in terms of   the historical friction for us as a people over the last two thousand years. Do you do you think that's pretty true, Eli? What do you think?  



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It's absolutely true. Some guy wrote a book called A Nation of Sheep   in   the Yeah. Fifties, I think it was.   And it was about the American people just being,   so   malleable,   gullible,   and,   how should I put, maneuverable   that,   that they can't understand what's going on. So because, we're living in a world that where wolves   rule over the sheep,   and the sheep and the wolves are pretending to be sheep in the pulpit in politics   in in every and academicians,   every possible field. The wolves have taken over the institutions of society.   And it's got what was that movie, They Live?  

Right? Yes. It's They Live. Yeah. Or even better, the invasion of the body snatchers. Right?   They they take over the world by imitating   normal people,   and, the the the sheeple   never catch on.   They simply never catch on. Although, there are times in history where the sheeple have caught on, you had the, English revolution.   We had Yeah. What was that? Great book. The,   the by the   British   writer,   analyzing the various revolutions   through a  

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The Nameless War by Ramsey.  

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Archibald Ramsey, The Nameless War. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He just goes after one revolution after another and shows how it was caused by the international bankers.   Right? And,   and the Soviet the Bolsheviks   the Bolsheviks   who, pretend to be, Democrats.   Right? So but yeah. And pretending to be Russians as well. They pretended to be Russians. Yeah. Yeah. I meant to comment, they weren't the people who, organized that weren't Russian. They were, Jews from Long Island.   Right?  

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They were.   Yeah. So Long Island's got a lot to answer for. Right? Long Island's got an awful lot to answer for.  

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They couldn't even speak Russian.   Right? They couldn't even speak Russian.   And,   probably the best book on the subject ever written I have to give it a besides mine, The Great Impersonation. Yeah. The best book ever written about that was The Plot Against Christianity   by Elizabeth Dilling.   Wonderful lady from Chicago.   She was prosecuted by FDR   as a,   insurgent   in '19,   '30 late nineteen thirties   because she,   preached against America going to war   on behalf of Britain because she saw through it and knew it was orchestrated by Jews.   So did, who is Lindbergh. So did Lindbergh. He saw through it too. He was going around speaking against it, and then they were calling him a a fascist and a Nazi and an antisemite. They were calling him all the names in the book because he would not go along with the Jewish conspiracy. Right? So the number of people who have died or been imprisoned   or   how should I put put, put out to pasture   and Yeah.  

Caricatured by the press and who made their lives miserable is innumerable. It's absolutely innumerable. And their steamroller rolls on, but it began in Judea,   just before the time of Christ. So, anyway, let me plug my book real quick. It's Please do.   Yeah. Sales are a little bit slow right now because conservatives are being, knocked off left and right. And they're the only ones who read material like this. Right? So it's a the great impersonation at moneytreepublishing.com,   and, you just search for that title,   and, you know, it'll come up there, and it'll explain how   the Jews became known as or became,   oh, the impersonators of Israel,   okay, and the impersonators of Judah   also.  



[02:09:07] Unknown:

So that's what I'm talking about. Yeah. Just just to interrupt again, could you put the title of that book in the chat? Because that that sounds like something I'd I I think I'll I'll type it in, Eli, while you're talking. I'll type it in. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Sorry to interrupt. I just thought it'd be good good opportunity to stick it out there and yeah.  

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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So   what happened was   the everybody should know every Christian should know and most historians also know   that there was a continuous   war between the Israelites   and the Edomites. Okay? That goes back to   the two children in Rebecca's womb  

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who, they were fighting each other inside her womb. Now who's Rebecca? I'm gonna just stop. Oh, okay. Yeah. Okay. People know yeah. Well, let's let's Yeah. So who was Rebecca?  

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Okay. So you know you know about Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. Right? Every every Christian should know that, but not all Christians know anything   about the Bible.   They're they're not educated about the Bible. They're just given dogma.  

[02:10:09] Unknown:

You know? I'm gonna I'm gonna agree with you again. So sorry to interrupt again. I mean, I I wanna read your book because it sounds like No. Interrupt, Nathan, because this is really meant to be I want it's it's  

[02:10:20] Unknown:

Eli knows I know tons. Eli knows tons. Eli knows yeah. Encyclopedic on this stuff. And and it getting the basics right is the most important bit. Once you got the basics right, all the details pile in and make sense. And if you don't have them right, then they get some confusing. Puzzle, isn't it? It it all It is. Yeah. But you've got to put the main pieces in there. You've got to put a board around it kind of thing to to kind of as as a road map to yourself. But,  

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I I've noticed this as well. Sorry, mate. I'm sorry to keep interrupting. I'll just I'll chip in with this, and then I'll shut up again. Don't say sorry all the time, Nathan. It's good. It's a radio show. I'm not gonna make a lot of I'm not like interrupting it because it obviously, he's coming on. He's trying to say something out chipping in all the time. But, with with a lot of the Christians that I talked to, and, again, I know a lot of Christians, I've got a lot of Christian friends. When you question them about the stuff that's in the bible, what you'll find is they know the cherry picked stuff. They'll they'll pick their favorite verses, but they often lack the context to go with it. They don't know the bible. They don't read the bible. They're often not interested in in certain parts of it because they they just don't have the patience to sit down and read it a lot of the time. But,   Right. Yeah. It it is interesting to note that that, you know, if they would just if they would just familiarize themselves with the book   little bit anyway. Right. I'm gonna shut up. Get your I'm in trouble, mate. I'd love to read it. Yeah. Are you suggesting that people actually read the Bible?  



[02:11:37] Unknown:

I did. Well, not all of it. Hey. I'm still I'm still plowing through it, but but I've I've read a fair amount of it. Well, okay. You know? Well, if you read my book, it'll point to the sections that absolutely must be read and why they must be read, but which totally ignored by mainstream Christianity and, of course, by Judaism as well. Oh, all that. Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. But let let let's just,   Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.   If you don't know about Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, you can't possibly be a Christian. And there are a lot of people who call themselves Christians who have no idea who those three guys were. Right? That's right. Very clear Yeah. In Genesis twelve three twelve one through three,   the the blessing was given to Abraham.  

And he says in verse two, it says, you will be a blessing,   period.   You will be a blessing.   And he was a Shemite, descended from Shem,   and he had three wives, a sorry. Sarah,   Hagar, and Keturah. He had three wives.   And because   the the patriarchy goes by the father, not by the mother like the Jewish matriarchy does, we we know that all of his children through those three wives were Shemites.   Okay?   But the Jews claimed that Abraham was a Jew.   But the first but Judah,   if if the word Jude comes from the word Judah,   he was his great grandson.  

Now never in history   has a patriarch been named after his great grandson,   but this is the slight of hand that was pulled by the, Scofield reference Bible in explaining that Abraham was the first Jew. No. He was not.   In fact, the first Jew did not even appear until the days shortly before the days of Christ because what we're talking about here is people impersonating Judah.   And if you open the book of, Luke,   this latter half of the book, chapter three,   you will give the bloodline of Jesus Christ going all the way back to Adam.   Okay?  

Yeah. And Esau is not included.   Esau was Jacob's brother. Okay?   So the that prophecy, the bless and then and then verse three, which says, if if you bless   him, you will be blessed. If you curse him, you this is talking about Abraham. It's not talking about any Jew.   Okay? I mean, this is clearly   made up. It's fictional,   interpretation   of Genesis twelve one through three. Total fiction. It's a scion, Eli, isn't it? Yeah. It's a scion. Yeah. Well I agree. He was hired why did why? He was hired by the Rothschilds to falsify the record.   Okay? And they know that very few Christians actually read their Bibles. And if they do read them, they don't read them carefully. And they prefer to go to church where where   some,   showmen   so it's good showmen and bad showmen. You know, pronounce the sermon and, of course, the Catholic showmen are really bad. They're boring. They're really boring. So you'll you'll learn even less in a Catholic school or a Catholic church than you do. At least the the, what do you call it? The  

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the The Protestants?  

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You try I'm starting to think of Luke. I couldn't think of Luther's name. The yeah. The Protestants.   The they at least have really showmen, good showmen. The fire and brimstone showmen. But those have disappeared too. We don't have any more fire and brimstone preachers. Why? They've all become lame and tame. Jesus loves everybody. Their law has been done away with, and, you you can't do any wrong. You're you're gonna be raptured, and everything be fine.  

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Okay? Yeah. But So you got that's kind of a new age take on it as well, though, isn't it? It's kind of like, oh, well, you know, it's kind of the fluffy version of Christianity that a lot of people fall into. Oh, good. Fluffy.   It's it's the best fluff. Good word, Nathan. It's it's definitely fluffy. There's more fluff than in a in a settee. There's that much fluff on it. Well, I've got I've got to be careful with words, you know, in case somebody takes that. I don't want to be well. But, just you're on about you're on about the, the genealogy of of,   Christ going back through the generations. Yeah.  

Another thing that that I found interesting of note is that in Luke and Matthew, you've got two completely well, it's not completely different,   accounts of the genealogical record. You know, the bloodlines, the but they differ significantly  

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between the two. You know? Right. Yeah. That's easy to explain. It's never talked about in any mainstream church. They are the bloodlines of,   not yeah.   Solomon and,   Nathan.   Okay? Those are the two sons of David.   Okay?   So so those are both Judahites because, the the bloodline of David goes comes from Judah. And so both Joseph and Mary   are the of that bloodline, but Joseph is from, Nathan,   and Mary is from, Solomon. Okay? It might be the other way around. It's been a while since I've looked at that. So it that's what you got. You got this there's still bloodlines of Adam, bloodlines of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob,   but, there's, the different sons of of, David. Okay?  

So, that that explains that.   And that's just that's a subject.   In fact, my book goes into that.   Okay. Also goes into the fact   that the the bloodline of Jesus Christ died out in Judea when he was murdered, okay,   by the people we've been talking about. Their their descendants today are are same people that murdered Christ. Okay? And they're so they're more trying to murder Christianity,   and, the Christians are falling for it. It's mainly   it's mainly Siap   because they need to pacify the people   and murder and murder us with COVID. They're killing us with kindness,   okay, by telling us that COVID is good, that that big pharma is good,   that Arabs are good, Muslims are good, and you shouldn't bother with them. Alright? All you have to worry about is going to heaven, and if you believe in Jesus, you'll go to heaven. That that's, that's fluffiness,   a fluffy Christianity for you. Okay? It reminds me of that Herb Alpert,   album cover. I think it was his first album where there there's a woman   obviously, a naked woman covered with whipped cream.  



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Right? You didn't forget that. Hang on a minute. No. No. In the Bible was that in? Because I seem to have missed over. I skipped that bit. I mean, that sounds great.  

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That's in the Yeah. That's in chat to Herb Albert, that is. Nice. There we go. Two seconds then.  

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Great album. Right. It's the healthy Christianity   verses.  

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You're right. No. With Tom's free whipping cream anyway. Wait a minute. But if you actually I missed something. Is somebody talking about whipped cream?  

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In the context of fluffy Christianity, yes. Order.  

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Order.  

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No. I'm not a gamble. Oh, this is Could we please get back to the topic ahead, gentlemen?  

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What? Who gets it? All fluffy and creamy. Exactly.  

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About naked women and whipped cream. Right.   Yeah. Well, if you read the bible, it's sex, drugs, and rock and roll. There there's nothing held back.   Absolutely nothing held back. The,  

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I was gonna say that the amount of sacrifices in there and, I mean, the bloodshed in the old testament is fantastic. I mean That was unbelievable.   Yeah. It it just It's just a bit.  

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It is unbelievable.   It is. You think it's bad now. You go back and read some of the old testament stuff and it and you sort of really picture it, you know, because it's very spare is the language. But you look at the numbers and everything and you're going, oh, boy. This is really grim. Like, I was saying the other day, like, the book of Jeremiah is astonishingly grim.   It it really it's very, very tough reading.   And and this is what we were saying the other day that we are Jeremiahs. My dad used to say it's like someone who bangs on and keeps banging on and banging on and banging on. But when you see what Jeremiah was up against, you understand why he had to keep banging on again. And it still didn't work out. It still didn't work out because the sheep were had strayed, like, big time. Yeah.  

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Yeah. Well, I mean, the same thing happened to Jesus when he heard his first   speech at the, synagogue   in, Galilee   was, he was quoting from Isaiah 53.   Yeah. And he closed the book and said,   these verses are not today fulfilled in your ears.   And all of the people in the synagogue not mind you, these people were not Edomites.   Now some of them may have been, but most of them were actually Israelites, Judahites,   who   murdered   among each other and said,   who is this guy?   Does is he claiming to be the Messiah?   And they they tried to throw him off a cliff.  

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Right? They they they tried to throw him off a cliff. Yeah. Right? Yeah. That's how Jesus I think you see it's worth dropping it's worth dropping in here, Eli. I've mentioned this before on the show. Michael Hudson, the economist who's still alive in 02/2017,   wrote a book called And Forgive Them Their Debts.   And he references   this,   scene where Christ is basically frog marched, as it were, into a synagogue and told us to read something to them. Yeah. And what Isaiah 53 is really about, and the key phrase throughout it, certainly all sorts of translations, is the day of the Lord. And, of course, this is communicated, I suspect, today as the day of joy and all this, that, and the other. That's not what it means. Right. Yeah. The day of the Lord You happy happy happy. The forgive. Yeah. It's the day of the forgiveness of all debts. And the people that were in the audience, the ones that were really getting riled up, were were the creditor class that were owed money. And they went, what's this guy saying? We're not gonna get our money. So they tried to throw him off a cliff. So you know, when people go, oh, Jesus loves everyone, I'm going, have you ever whipped bankers? Have you ever done that? Because I haven't. Right? So I don't think so. And have you ever been thrown off tried someone try and throw you off a cliff? No? Well, let's just drop all this sort of kissy kissy lovey stuff because it ain't like that. It's tough stuff. Well, that's It really is. Another scenario  

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that the fluffy entity preachers   never talk about when he took a whip and whipped the bankers out of out of the temple. Right?   Mhmm. They never talk about that because they don't wanna talk about bankers.   They don't wanna talk about because the the people who run the denominations   are all agents of the bankers.   Every last denomination. There's not a single one that there's a true yeah. Right. I'm sorry to tell you.   But, yes,   they they're all programmed.   It's all one big sigh up. Everything   is one big sigh up, and the the most of the vast majority of people are totally clueless   about this. But now getting back to Esau and Jacob,   so,   because Rebecca, who, was Isaac's wife and by the way, the the the Bible says, in Isaac, it says to Abraham these words are spoken to Abraham.  

In Isaac,   shall thy seed be called.   Mhmm. Okay? In other words, your your descendants will be named after your son, Isaac.   Saxons, anybody?  

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Anglo son?   Sons.   Isaac's  

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sons. Sons. Yes. Yeah. The Saka, the Scythians, all of them. All these words are very bad. Called Jews. It does not say they will be called Jews. It says they will be named after your son, Isaac. Okay?   So that that's another verse they refuse to quote. So, I I realized in the seventies   that when I decided to ride read the Bible before myself,   I was coming across verses that I'd never heard preached from the pulpit,   and I never even read about them in, you know, in major sermons.   These verses were just totally ignored,   and I recognize there's a pattern. Number one, they're racial.  

Okay?   Because   we are erased. The Israelites are erased, descended from Adam, which means to show blood in the face. Okay? And so only white people can see that. About that. Say a bit Yeah. So the the the the blood in the face thing is that there's w's in that Adam word, isn't it? It's a w  

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d a w m, aoudawm. Yeah. I might have mullered the and that means to show blood in the face, and there's only one race of people that do that,   that show blood in the face. They get rosy cheeks.  

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Yes. And David was ruddy and fair.   And Sarah, the the,   what is it? What do they call it? The the Dead Sea Scrolls,   the,   there's a a scroll that was unearthed, and it describes the physical appearance of Sarah,   Abraham's wife.   And it describes a very   pretty, slender white woman   who, has, you know, all the features of a conventional white woman   and, not not like a Jewess with a big nose.   Straight straight nose,   you know,   slender fingers and feet,   etcetera etcetera. It describes the white woman. It says her skin was white. That's what it says. Yeah. Her skin was white. Okay? Not tawny like a Jewish woman. So, anyway,   the the the all the evidence from the scriptures and from the the ancient historical records proves that we, Caucasians,   are in fact the Israelites of the Bible, and the Jews are impostors.  

Okay?   So but you have to understand the division between Jacob and Esau. Well, because what happened was Rebecca   told Jacob to impersonate   Esau   before Isaac   because she will make sure that Esau did not get the blessing.   Okay?   And, again, and the preachers get this wrong too. They call,   Jacob a trickster. It wasn't Jacob's idea. He protested to his mother, but mom, Isaac,   you know, even though he may be blind,   right,   you know, he he he'll he'll figure out that I'm not Esau. He'll figure out that I'm Jacob.   And, so I don't wanna do this. So Rebecca says, never you mind. I'll get some sheepskin.   And face it on your arms.  



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And She's a practical woman.  

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Very practical woman. You know? Yeah. And, yeah,   I'll cover you with a a mutton mutton   scent. Right? And then Yeah. Because Isaac loved mutton. And so she said, don't don't worry, son. You will fool him. Okay? And so, it all comes he he impersonates   Esau   and successfully.   And then   Esau comes along, wanted to get the blessing.   And Isaac says, well, who are you?   It says, let me Esau.   He said, well, I just blessed Esau.   Esau says, what?   Jacob   has now twice stolen my inheritance.   No. That's not true because No. It isn't. Esau   sold his inheritance,   done deal, to Jacob   when he sold his birthright for a mess of potty.  

Okay?   And Esau descendants have been angry about this ever since,   and they they want their  

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porridge back. Right? They wanna get back on the contract. Eli, we've got a caller.   Von Kurt is in the yeah. So hi, Von Kurt. You're on the show. Welcome to the show.   How are you doing? Von Kurt. Hello. Can you hear me? We can hear you loud and clear, Von Kurt. Yeah. Hi.  

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Oh, brilliant. Right.   I wanted to call in last week when you were talking about education.  

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Mhmm.  

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So I don't think I'll change the subject.  

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Okay.   Alright.   Well, nice to hear from you. We'll talk about education next week.   Unless   you've got any comments about this bit at the moment. That's cool. Well, keep listening and you'll get an education. Yeah.   Alright.  

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Okay.   Alright. So, so Isaac,   refuses to bless Esau even though so first of all,   they they never go to the churches   blame   Jacob. He say they called Jacob a trickster. First of all, it was not his idea, and his mother, Rebecca, told him, I will take full responsibility   for whatever happens. So don't you worry. You know, I will take full responsibility.   The churches never talk about this, and they never talk about Esau selling his birthright to Jacob. They never talk about that. So he already sold his birthright.   He doesn't deserve a blessing because he sold his birthright.  



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Because he didn't care for it.  

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He didn't care for it. No. It just made didn't mean anything to him. He couldn't care less. Yeah. It was just irrelevant. He couldn't care less. Yeah. It's irrelevant. But all of a sudden, once he lost it   okay. Once he lost it, he said, oh, no. I made a really big mistake. So all of his descendants who are today known as Jews,   Edomite Jews,   are fighting to get that back. They're fighting against the true descendants of Jacob, namely you and I and all the Caucasian people who are the direct descendants of Jacob   Jacob Israel,   and we we forgot because, the prophecy say   that the Israelites will forget who they are. Now how is that possible? How's how's it possible for a whole race to forget who we are? Well, we came we came paganized,   right after the split between,   Solomon's sons, Jeroboam and Rehoboam. This is all explained in the book. And the Israelites be began to to turn out their tribes, began practicing paganism   to such a horrible extent that Yahweh said, okay. You people,   I'm sick of you. I'm gonna have the Assyrians cart you off into Northern Mesopotamia,   and you'll be slaves there. And you you'll we'll we'll discipline you up there. Okay? So after this disciplining they got, they decide, well, we don't like being slaves anymore, so we'll just cross the Caucasus Mountains   and make our escape into   our Sereth, and this is covered in the,   the Apocrypha as well.  

And even Josephus says that the two tribes that are subject to the Romans   are actually a small number compared to the 10 tribes that are scattered throughout the Greco Roman world. So Josephus knew that all 12 tribes were fully in existence.   And so and the Pharisees knew it too because   in in John seven thirty five,   he says to the Pharisees, well, I have another you you you people here, the kingdom will be taken from you and given to an a people worthy of it.   Okay?   That's another verse that that the churches will never quote because that tells the Jews that that they were trying to   escape with the kingdom. You know? And, he said, no. It's gonna be taken from you.  

So but so this is just part of the war. It's actually going back to the fall of Lucifer.   It's all covered in in my book, how the, the evil ones are still well among us just like in the in the book they live in the movie they live. They're still among us, and they wanna carry this war out to the bitter end. Okay?   So Esau now is, the the potent enemy of Israel. They have all kinds of wars from the breakup of the two tribes, the the Edomite tribes and the Israelite tribes.   And   king John Hyrcanus,   was a Judahite king in the days a hundred years before Christ.   And, he was approached by Anedomites,   descendant of Esau,   by the name of Antipater.  

And he said, okay. I will I will give you money.   I will give you money,   to do things my way. And I think,   John Hyrcanus was getting older and sick of fire of he was fighting against the Edomites.   Fighting against the Edomites   and,   having tired of fighting these and he basically whipped them. He whipped them. But he he made him an offer. He said, either you become circumcised   or I run you through with the sword. So either you choose death or circumcision.   Now this is not an option for an Israelite to do. You can't   offer citizenship   to, a non Israelite. Okay? So this was a bad deal.  

And, I I think it actually goes back to the days of Shechem   when   when, the two sons of Jacob tried to they fooled the Shechemites who were also Canaanites,   that you could have Dinah   and you can marry Dinah if you want to, but you have to become circumcised. Well, no. You can't. It does if you're circumcised in your foreskin, that doesn't turn an Edomite into an Israelite. Right? And Jacob was really upset with those two guys for making that for even making the offer. Right?   So but this is what,   John Hyrcanus offered the Edomites on that occasion. So, well, what would Antipater do?   He went to Julius Caesar   and offered him a great sum of money   to send him a Roman army into Judah,   the land of Judah. It was not called Judea yet.  

Into the land of Judah and   with with the Roman army and take over on behalf of his son, Herod, who was also an Edomite, not a Judahite,   and rule over the house of Judah   in Judea   with the help of the Roman army.   Okay?   So this is the beginning of how the Edomites   began to get even with us   by having the Roman army take over the house of Judah   in Palestine.   And the the the Judahites actually became very corrupt under under this deal,   although the many Judahite women were protesting   daily   against the regime of Herod because they were saying, Herod's not one of us.   Why don't you give at least give us a king that's one of our own people, of our own race. But the Romans wouldn't do that because,   because Herod was such a tremendous use to them, and they they made a deal both both and, Mark Anthony   and Julius Caesar   made a deal with Herod that he would be fully kept in power   as long as as Rome exists. Okay?  

And so they weren't gonna back down on that deal. So this this is an occupation.   This is an occupation of the people of Judah by Edomites,   and nobody will tell you that these people are Edomites, not Judahites. Okay?   Everybody understand that so far?  

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Any questions at this point? No. No problem. I'm just listening, mate. I'm eating sausage rolls still. Sorry. No. I'm listening. So it's fascinating.  

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Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Very good. Okay. So then Jesus Christ comes along.   Who tried to kill Jesus Christ when he was a baby? Who tried to kill Jesus Christ when he was a baby?  

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Sorry. I have a guy named Herod. I was gonna say it was I was supposed to be I'm still eating. Yeah.   There you go. The sauce is all gonna let me do it. Okay. Anyway, I'm  

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This is not a dinner club. This   is a a a sermon. Okay? So yeah.   So Herod was not a Judahite.   The churches don't make this clear. The churches can't make this clear because they would implicate the Jews, and they don't wanna do that. Okay? They would lose all of their perks they get from being a   a a funder of Zionism. Okay?   So   so the the plot to destroy Jesus was conceived by Edomites, not not by not by the house of Judah.   And so we have the same and then ultimately, when he would be was full in years, 33 years old, it was these Edomite Jews who crucified him as well. There's a very telling   verse in John   nineteen eleven   where   Jesus   and and,   Pilate are having a conversation.  

And, you know, he he has a who are you?   Pilate asked you, who are you?   And why are why are you not answering your critics? And I'm here to help you. I wanna I wanna help you. I hate these Jews.   Right? So,   I would what I could I could I have the decision to have you live or die. It's in my hands. And Jesus says, no. No. You have no power at all. The and only the father can grant that power. And and he he's basically, I have to die. I have to die for my people, Israel. And there's nothing you can do about it, mister Pilate. I said, okay.   Well, he says, I'm gonna wash my hands of this whole situation, and I'm just gonna turn you off, turn you over to your enemies.  

And then,   Pilate said, well, who's who's responsible for this?   And and he says, well, there's actually, you Romans are responsible,   but so are these Edomites.   And then he   says, but the ones who sent me to you have the greater guilt.   Okay? That's talking about it was the Edomites who proposed to the Romans to come in and occupy the land of Judah.   And so he is recalling that history   and say, he's not not that you're not guilty, Romans,   but the people who started this are the Edomites. They're the ones who invited you to come in and occupy   this this territory and of the people of Judah so they have the greater guilt. That's clearly stated.  

They have the greater guilt.   No Judeo Christian minister will ever quote that verse.   Number one, they have to know history to understand what it means. And number two, it implicates the Jews, which they will never do. Okay?   So   so he he is killed, but, however, there even way before   the the these incidents   when David was being anointed king,   by the prophet,   Samuel. I think it was Samuel   that,   the the people the Israelites wanted a king. They were tired of obeying God's law. We don't want your law, God.   Give us a king. We'll we'll we'll be happier under a king. And so the prophet says, well, if you choose to have a king,   he will he will raise taxes.  

He will make wars and he'll he'll conscript you into armies and you all die fighting for him. And then, but he won't be able to protect you like I protected you.   Okay?   No. We want a king. We're we're tired of obeying your law. We we wanna we wanna party hardy. So we want a king. Okay. Well, I warned you what's gonna happen if you have a king,   the his descendants are gonna be treat you really badly. And so what happened was when the Judahites were taken captive to Babylon,   the,   the the kingdom Azadikiah  

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Can I just submit? Sorry to interrupt a second.   We see we've we've lost Paul from the stream, and I'm there's there seems to be a bit of an issue on, on YouTube. I mean, there's there's the chat's still coming through, but the same the the stream buffering.   So I don't know whether we've offended the sensors or or what, but,   we may have. We may have. Yeah. So I'm just I'm just looking now. I mean, a Patrick I think Patrick's on it. He said The Holy Land Radio is still going live. So,   I'm just, again, you have to chat and YouTube's still going, but I don't know whether whether people can still hear us. Alright. Is there any can we just have a bit of feedback today?  

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Let me check. Yeah. Oh, well, I can hear you. I can hear you.  

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Yeah. Yeah. I'm just this one's still live. Dropped  

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on it's still live. Where's Paul? Yeah. It's it's I don't know. Paul's gone missing. It's it's weird.  

[02:39:08] Unknown:

Right. Okay. Well, as long as long as I'm still streaming, then we'll just continue. Sorry to interrupt you again, though, Eli. I just want to  

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make sure that Yeah. No. No. No. No. No. That's good to know. It's absolutely good to know. We're we're still we're still live. This has happened to me before where the, stream stream just continues.   And and so whoever's onboard will stay onboard even if Paul is not with us. So that's not a problem. Okay? No. That's that's good. I was just I just didn't want your, slight   talking if you're being noted off. Yeah. But I think we're all great as far as I can tell. Right. I I think we are. Yes. I think we're good. So, so House of Judah was taken captive to Babylon   around May   for seventy years. It clearly says for for your good. I'm punishing you, the house of Judah, because you're almost as bad as the house of Israel, the 10 northern tribes. But I'm gonna punish you for seventy years. But when you come back,   I'm gonna have you rebuild the temple   and rebuild the city of Jerusalem   because I want you to reinstitute the Mosaic law. And then,   it says the people of Judah and Israel were very lax in obeying god's laws. Okay? Throughout the history. You read the Bible. It'll tell you how lax they were and actually obey. And and Yahweh punished them numerous times, dozens of times because they refused to obey his law.  

Maybe that's why they wanted a king instead. Okay? So but these kings is a prophecy   that there's a good figs and the bad figs. The good figs   are those of Israel   who and actually of the house of Judah,   who are the good pea the good descendants of David.   The bad figs are also the descendants of David,   but they they went to Europe   with Zedekiah's daughters, Tia Tefi   and,   and Skada.   Scada is the the woman from whom the Scots get their name. Tia Tefi went to Ireland,   and she she married Jokai,   the Haraman,   who was already he was of the house of Phares Judah.   Phares is also a branch of, David,   and,   of Judah, actually. He's a branch of Judah,   and those people went to,   went to Europe went to Europe with the Germanic   migrations. I think Paul is back.  



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And so those are fairs. Yeah. Sorry to interrupt you. I just, I need to just make an announcement, Eli, that, Okay. Obviously, we must have been over the target   because my entire system went down. Everything.   Wow. Two screens, power surge, everything went off. So I'm,   everything the whole thing just went kaboom.   So we just cut cut off of everything.   Yeah. We noticed. Anyway, we're back on air right now. So if you're still listening and tuned in on YouTube Yes. Yeah. It just literally, it just went kading. The whole room went dark and then it came back. So there's some kind of power search here or something. So nothing much I can do about that. It couldn't have been the subject matter, could it? Anyway. Could have been the subject. Right? I Right. Okay. I thought it was just be. Yeah. Could it could have been to be fair. So I was just getting yeah.  

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Yeah. If if you're talking about stuff I don't want us digging into, I mean, yeah, potentially, it could have been. But, I hope your computer's alright, though, Paul. I mean, you know, I've I've been there. It's quite Yeah. That's good. Have to go wrong.  

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Hey, Paul. The rumble stream shooter to dial up.  

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The one the rumble stream went down in two hours thirty three minutes forty four seconds. I think he's working, so there we go. Anyway, sorry, Eli. I've I've interrupted you. Yeah. Yeah. There we go. Yeah. But this is very crucial to understand the good figs versus the bad figs. First of all, it's the house of Judah.   Zedekiah's daughter, he was the king of Judah   when they were taken into captivity for seven years in Babylon.   However, they they murdered all of his male descendants.   Okay? They didn't know that he had two female descendants, his two daughters, which I just gave their names as Tia Tefi and Scada. Scada married, one of the members of   the house of Phares.  

Judah had two sons, Pharez and Zarah.   Pharez is the the group that stayed with Moses   and with Judah   in Palestine.   And they became,   they became the, the people of Parthia   and who actually who then later became the Germans.   You will notice that all of the   households, the royal households of Europe   are descended from either Faras or Zara. The   king,   the kings of Britain, the czars of, czars of Russia, and the caisers of Germany are all cousins.   They're all cousins. In World War one,   the three of them all reign, you know, whoever the king of England was at that time, you know, Tsar Nicholas and Kaiser Wilhelm the second, they were all cousins.   How is it possible for these cousins   to make war upon each other? Well, they were maneuvered into it.  

In other words, the prophecy   given by Nathan   to, David was, okay.   Your descendants are gonna be awful people.   Right? There'll be some good descendants,   but most of them will be really awful.   And, it's it's gonna wreak havoc in in the world. And that that's what we've had. Okay? If we had honest leadership, which we never seem to have, if we have a lot of honest leadership, they get assassinated.   By who?   The descendants of the Edomites.   Right?   The Rothschilds.   It even got worse because the Rothschilds   the the the their back background   is Kazarian.  

The the Ashkenazi Jews are Kazarians.   They they never had one drop of Shemitic blood in them ever. They still don't. But neither did the,   the the Jews of Palestine because they descend from Esau, not from Jacob.   Okay? When Esau married into the Canaanite branch of the the devil's seed line,   the he basically severed ties with the house of Adam.   So the house of Adam and the house of the devil, Lucifer, the Edomites, and the Canaanites have been making war   since Genesis three fifteen   where this war is predicted.   I will declare enmity   between the bloodline of Eve and the bloodline   of Cain.  

Okay?   Seth, the bloodline of Seth and the bloodline of Cain. And that's that's the very first prophecy.   And when Yahweh makes a prophecy, it comes true. This bloodline war it's it's worse than the, what do you call it? The   the the the the American   blood feud.   The who who's what's the famous blood feud here in America? Which I can't see. Their names right.   Well, that there'd be one of them. Right? Yeah. Yeah. And so and they they they're perpetually at war with one another. But this was prophesied in Genesis three fifteen fifteen, and nobody pays attention.  

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Nobody pays attention. You you're saying that people don't read it and understand it properly, Eli. Is that what you're saying? That's right   at all. I mean, doesn't it? I I keep on,   sorry. I'm just gonna apologize again. Something just went back literally. The Hatfields and the McCoys.   Yeah. The Hatfields and the McCoys is what I was trying to think of. Yeah. You must have definitely been over the over the, Yeah. The Target. Over the Target. I mean, I've never had that ever happen to me in forty years of computing. Literally, never. It just went kadung. Uh-huh. But, anyway, we're kinda back. We can run on longer, basically, if you want to. I don't really mind if you want because we've lost a few minutes. But,   I'm just going back to what you were just saying then. So people Yeah. I the thing I mentioned last week, it's always worth repeating these things. The quote from Henry Ford,   people read their Bible through Jewish spectacles or Christians read their Bible through Jewish spectacles and therefore read it wrong. And it That's right. It's just there's a clutch of words. There was a comment in like, we've mentioned this before. Really, the word Gentile should not be in scripture. That's right. It's very it's very confusing.  

And and just to let everybody know, you're not a Gentile. There's no such thing. It it means an ethnicity. Nobody can be one.   It's just silly. So this is another sort of hijacking of the language. That's part of the SIOP. And also this word Jew, the the word the letter j wasn't even in the alphabet until the fifteen hundreds or something like that. And it's been dropped in. And when you get a translation when it's removed, you've suddenly got considerably more clarity about what was actually originally written. And then it's vital Right. Because I mean Yeah. Yeah. The whole of the sort of religious businesses   have built themselves on a psyop.  

I mean, you know. Exactly.  

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Well, the initial psyop after they murdered Christ, you know, that's part of the psyop as well.   And then why why did Europe become Christian and why did the Jews not become Christian?  

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You're a triple We're Israelites.  

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Because we're the Israelites,   and the prophet, he says that the Israelites will follow their shepherd.   Yep. And and Jesus said to the Jews,   ye are not my sheep.   There's another quote that you never hear. Okay?   So, basically, I started reading the Bible and I began to wonder, well, why aren't any of these pulpit masters   quoting these verses that I'm reading here? They're they're leaving out the really good stuff. You know? They're leaving out the really good stuff, like, who committed the murder?   Right? Who really committed the murder?   And they don't tell you.  



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They give you But it is amazing, sir. Tell you. It is it is Yeah. It's happening.   Even now, twelve, fourteen years after I first connected up with you and stumbled into this. Now I was saying before or the other day, I was talking with someone on Monday, I think it was, or doing a a recording.   I said,   when I think I'd been watching one of your videos from 02/2012.   You did a few short things. Right. Yeah. I've heard of you. Hearing your show. This is when Chris, Sussex man, used to call in as well back on RBN.   And it took me about fifteen minutes of watching your first show. And I it was like a hammer hit me in the head. It was actually more explosive than this power surge I've just had. That was a final wax. Right? It was. It was like, it was almost like a little, it's like the key just the the combination lock just shifted right, left, right, and the door opened. I went, oh,   oh blimey or something to that effect. Yeah. And everything comes into focus rapidly.  

Of course, I didn't know all the details then. But then you realize that you don't, If you've got the context,   as you keep going into the details, because you keep me put people who throw up resistance, totally understandable. Right. I get that completely. And I'm always into having those conversations.   But you find   that every single thing pans out back to this context. You go, there's the context. Got it? Right. That's why that happened. Oh, yeah. It answers it answers practically everything that's within the documents. It just makes complete sense now. You've got the Yeah. You go, this is a story about this group of people. They they they are chosen to do a certain job. They keep mucking about. When they do the job, it goes great. When they don't do it, they're in deepest, deepest, direst, utmost awful trouble. Go read the Old Testament if you wanna know how bad things can get. Right. And it's like Christ came back almost like to say, right, I've gotta sort this department out on the Earth. It's just completely out of whack. They've been mucking about. Right. It's all gone silly and this is what it's gonna take. And it's gonna take me doing it. Yeah. And he did.  

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Yeah. So, yeah, the the the PSIOP continues.   It's not as blatant. You know, they they kill us blatantly   with wars. You know? The the the the Rothschilds have masterminded all of the modern wars to pit white nation against white nation, so we'll kill each other. And so they they can actually stand back and say, well, we didn't do that. They're the ones killing each other, but they orchestrated it. Okay? To say the same here. They orchestrated the civil war,   the,   the French Rothschilds   and the British Rothschilds.   The the French Rothschilds orchestrated the South, the British Rothschilds orchestrated the North, and 600,000   white Americans died.  

Yep. They have been stealing   loss of of US American military life ever, isn't it? Yeah. Right. And then World War one and two, one third of the white race perished in those two world wars.   Okay? Talk about a holocaust.   Right? Yeah. But the Bible says, unless you obey my laws,   there will be a wailing and a gnashing of teeth. You won't understand what's happening   until you get knowledge.   My people are destroyed for lack   of knowledge.   Yes. There's no knowledge coming from the pulpit.   It's all, oh, praise Jesus. Holy rollers rolling on the floor, singing hymns and singing songs. And then half these gospel singers on TV are perverts.   Right? They never think about   they never think about deception.  

Beware of deceivers.   Beware of deceivers. Beware of wolves in sheep's clothing.   They never quote those verses. Why? Because they are the wolves in sheep's clothing.   And because the average Christian simply takes it on faith,   that's a really bad word. You gotta have knowledge to bolster your faith.   They simply assume that whoever's in the pulpit is a good guy, a real Christian, and not an agent of the enemy. Well, the entirety of the Judeo Christian world has been taken over by the enemy,   and most Christians are utterly clueless, and they're Christian zombies. I like to refer to them   as Christian couch potatoes.  

Right? Mhmm. And they're not interested in hearing the truth because   it is it's what happened to Eve. Nakash told her, if you do what I want you to do,   you shall not surely   die.   Well, she died anyway, didn't she?   Right.   And they're they're spotting all these lies. Like, you'll be raptured,   and you won't have to die. Well, there's a rapture. That's just another Judeo Christian lie, and they're all anticipating   not having to obey God's law to get into kingdom. All you have to do is believe in Jesus, and you'll be safe.   It's a psyop.  

Modern Judeo Christianity is nothing but a psyop.   So I think I think what's happening now is people are beginning to wake up to the fact that the whole   outer world, the world of entertainment, television, radio, you name it, it's all a psyop.   People are beginning to wake up. And I have to give Donald Trump some credit because he said, what you're reading is fake news. Okay? Fake news has a lot to do with it. But   AI, your cell phone,   they're they're spying on us. The Israelis are spying on us constantly every word we say, and that's probably why you crashed   because  

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It could well be. It's really strange, But never mind. But, yeah. Yeah. Anyway, we've recovered. But we lost about fifteen minutes, but it doesn't matter. It's okay. But That's okay. Yeah. I think one of the things I was   yeah. Sorry. Go ahead.   I was saying one of the things I failed to   I failed to mention last week, just a little sort   of key fact because I've got about half a dozen in my head.   And I Right. I don't really go what I'm talking about, I don't really bother going into much more detail than that because the what I'm hoping all the time is it'll propel some curiosity in the listener   to go off and do their own stuff. And I'm always, you know, I've I've sort of got things wrong. I mean, the problem is I can't tell you where I'm wrong at the moment. But there's a lot of things that are accurate.  

And Yeah. One of the things this claim   that the Edomites have for being these people Mhmm. There's one thing. And I remember to having long conversations with Sussex men about this repeatedly over the years.   There's a very there's one simple litmus truth, as it were, that's contained within the very documents themselves. You mentioned it earlier. These,   the bloodlines.   The whole thing about all these men in all these lines, so and so, the begetting bits.   And Yeah. Every single individual in it is   a male or a man. Mhmm. Because the Israelite tribes are patrilineal. They're patriarchal. Amen. Is it Yes. Yeah. They they measure their descent through   through the father of the families. That's how it works. Yeah. Well, the Edomites don't.  

They're not trilinial and that's   the end of it. There's nothing to discuss.   I just go, well, that's it. It's like saying, oh,   this bowl is a nut. No, Ian, it's a bolt. I can see. I'm looking at it. How can they be Semites  

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if they don't have a patrimonial   lineage?  

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They they can't be. It's not it's not even an argument. Right. It's not really even anything to get heated about. It's actually just a piece of evidence and logic. You go Yeah. This is a nut. Yeah. That's a bolt. Got it? Yeah. Don't tell me that a nut's a bolt. I'm looking at it. I've got it in my hand.   Right? And Right. That's Yeah. Done. No. It's a bolt. It's a bolt. You can keep talk I can't listen to you anymore because you're silly, and it's silly. Yeah. The other thing another thing as well that's worth mentioning, I didn't touch on it last week, but or I did. I kinda touched on it. Over here, I know we've discussed this. In the eighteen hundreds, there was an absolute outbreak of this understanding,   when British Israelite movement got started. And, of course, people paint this as British superior. It's got nothing to do with that. It's about separatism. It's all been molded. Every single one of these stories, just like now, get psyop ed. Oh, they wanna do this. Oh, they think they're better than everybody else. I I don't think so. Look at the state of us. Right? But Right. That   movement was huge.  

They reckon there were about three and a half million congregants in the Church of England that got this information and were with it. They were standing with it. Right. And this is what Even Queen Victoria was on board.   Even Queen Victoria was on board. She got it. You know, you just go, wait. It shouldn't be anybody else. This is all it. It's just a matter of logical deduction. Well, who else could it be? Well, there's only one group of people that tick all these boxes.   So even if they're in a mess and causing which and you go, have they ever caused a mess before? Oh, yeah. Go look at the old testament. They're cocking it up left, right, and center. Right? So that's why we cock things up. We're we're we're the sons of our fathers. But,   they sent a placement   into   the Rothschilds,   paid for another Edomite called Edward Hine to go into the British Israelite movement   to basically say, can we be part of this? And they said, alright then. And immediately   immediately   made an error again. They got psyop ed again.  

Right. Yes. And it's like, oh, alright then. It's like being nice to someone at a party. We could be nice to them at a party, but it's still not the truth.   It's really simple stuff. And it's so brutally simple that it upsets it upsets an intellectual approach to all these documents. It's not required in my view. Yeah. It really is to come to it with the heart and mind of a child and go, yeah. Got that. That's black. That's white. That's a nut. That's a bolt. There's the sun. That's the moon. Got it. Yeah. There's nothing else to discuss. You don't go around saying the moon's the sun. I mean, some people probably will, won't they? But Right. Anyway I think, an  

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extra benefit the Edomites got out of this, this,   impersonation   of Judah   is it's it's fooled the white nationalists too. The white nationalists actually believe that the Bible is a Jewish book.   Right? Okay. Yeah. And so therefore therefore and they think Jesus is a Jew, therefore, they reject Christianity.   Well, if he actually goes through history,   like, just before   1900,   the average Christian believed the Jews were Christ killers.   Okay? They did not give them the credit for being God's chosen people. They just said, well, you killed Christ because the Bible says you killed Christ. Okay? Mhmm. Well, how did that change? How did that view of Jews change? Well, it took trillions of dollars and massive,   propaganda campaign called Zionism.  



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Of which CI Scofield is an integral part of that process, is he not?  

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Exactly. It's brainwashing.   Absolute brainwashing.   And that started with the the Scofield reference bible, and the Christian world has just been psyched from that day forward. Okay? They used to believe the Jews are Christ killers, and now they're God's chosen people.   That that's a tremendous propaganda coup. Tremendous. Absolutely tremendous. Okay.   And so look. Today, bringing things up to date   with this murder of Charlie Kirk, because I heard you guys talking about the fact that,   he had made statements against the Jews  

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before he got Only in the last month of his of his life. Last month. Yeah. He he basically changed tack or was prepared to be more critical   of things that he could no longer not be critical of, I think. I think it was just self evident to him that there's something extremely rank and awful going on in Gaza.   And I think that this caused it to,  

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yeah, change. Yeah. I I think we have reached the prophetic   statement   by,   by Yahshua Messiah Jesus Christ   when he said   that oh, and, sorry.   Oh, sorry. I have to go back to Luke, I think it is. I got two,  

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pages We'll wrap up in about in about ten minutes. We'll overrun by about ten minutes here, I think, you know, if that's okay with you. Is that okay with everybody else? Sure. Yeah. It's okay. Cool. Don't mind if I I I just it's really interesting. I'm gonna catch up tomorrow because I'm really tired. So excuse me if I just I hope you don't think I'm That's fine, Eric. That's okay. Okay. Excuse me tomorrow, mate.   I'll I'll I'll I'll listen to you,   Eli,   on catch up tomorrow.  

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Thanks. Thanks, sir. Rude of you to fall asleep during my sermon.  

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Yeah. But now the dreaming of what you've said, it'll have gone into a subconscious, Neil. Remember that one.  

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That's right. Right. Good catch up so good. Eli. Good night, Eli.  

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Cheers, mate. Bye bye. Bye bye. Cheerio.  

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Alright. Matthew ten twenty six.   Fear them not. There we're talking about the Pharisees, the the Edomites.   Fear them not for there is nothing covered   that shall not be revealed   and head that shall not be known.   Okay? We're living in the time of the revelation   because people are waking up to the fact   that nobody in power can be trusted.   That's that's axiomatic today. Okay? Mhmm. It's just a matter of time before they realize   that the real power behind the throne   is a bloodline of Cain.   It's only a matter of time before people and Charlie Kirk was on the right track.   They cannot allow people to wake up to this fact that it's the Jewish banksters who rule the world. That's another subject that Judeo Christian will never cover, banking.  

But what what the main act that Jesus said was to whip the bankers bankers out of the temple?   Oh, no. I can't talk about that.   No. No. No. Can't talk about that. Can't talk about the Pharisees.   They won't talk about the Pharisees.   The first four gospels are all about the an animosity, the enmity   between Jesus Christ and the Edomite Pharisees.   Every single word.   And and but there's smatterings of hope thrown in. And it's and it is the gospel after all, the good news that our Messiah has come.   But it's also about tribulation.   The book of Revelation starts with the words. This is the record of the tribulation that is to come.  

Okay?   But they wanna submit. And so what are the who the fuzzy what's it called? The the fuzzy gospel? Fluffy. Who? Fluffy.  

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The fluff. Yeah. I think I think Nathan's coined coined a new religion called Fluffy and The Fluffy Gospels. The Fluffy. Yeah. Right. Right. Yeah. It's it's copyright  

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NathanLucius@fluffianity,uh,.com.   There you go. There you go. You're welcome.  

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It's a passion. You know? It really sums it up well. It's a very good word for me. It really is. Yeah. Yeah. It does. Because modern Christianity is so preoccupied  

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with, I wanna be saved. I wanna make sure I get to heaven and blah blah blah. But they don't follow the rules that will get you to heaven.   And it's and they say, oh, the day I got saved. How do you know he got saved that day?   But, you know, show me the evidence because the gospel clearly says   that, if you really are you have Jesus in your heart, there will be evidence of it in your actions.   Right? By their fruits fruits shall you know them. If you have good fruit, then you're probably getting into the kingdom. If you have evil fruit, you're not getting into the kingdom. The book of Revelation says very plainly.   Liars, murderers, thieves will not get into the kingdom. And Paul says several times that homosexuals are not getting into the kingdom either.  

Oh, you can't say that in church.  

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No. Not now. Well, they all they all change their stance on that in line with the agenda. It just goes to show how strongly,   the church's morals are and, oh, or It's rather sticking the scriptures, you know. It's a bit it's a bit fluffy, ain't it, that one? Bit wavy. Yeah. Yeah. A bit flexible. Yeah. Well well said. Yeah. As a matter of fact,  

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when I was in Chicago a couple weeks ago, one of the my congregates said, you know, it seems to me   that the morality of the churches has descended to the level of the secular world.   You got it, bro. You got it, bro.   Anything goes.   It's the church of anything goes.  

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Again, it depends who's,   who who's offering the   the the bribes and then who you know, who who's got the biggest payout. Right. We'll then we'll we'll change it in line with that, I guess. But   yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's it's fast. And by the way, thank you for for that. I mean, I don't know how much   was was lost through the through the stream midway through. But I  

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mean, you know, hopefully Some of it. Enough of it. But it well, yeah. Paul's gonna come to our rescue because Paul's got a full recording. I got nothing for one to fifteen minutes because I literally had no power doing anything at all. So that's what I had told, actually.   But the stream never stopped. And so we kept No. No. You're cool. You're you're in here. That's fine. But the stream did stop because I handle, anyway. Don't worry. It's technically boring stuff. But, basically, the audio   stream is so when when the podcast is published and I, you'll hear all the bits that I didn't hear, maybe they heard them anyway, but things jumped out. So for those of you that wanna review the show, the podcast will be published shortly after the end of this show, and and it'll be okay. But yeah. Yeah. I just wanna mention one more thing. Yes. Because America is the only Christian republic on the face of the earth. It was founded by Christians for Christians and not for Hindus and Muslims and blah and Jews. No. No way.  

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It is a Christian republic,   and no king but Jews is is the slogan of the American Revolution. Remember, the Jews said, no king but Caesar.   Mhmm. Right? That should tell you something. But, the there's there's a segregation movements called return to the land. It's growing by leaps and bounds.   Their first, segment was in Arkansas, which I've already joined. They're gonna have a big convention in October, which I plan on attending.   And so it's racial segregation for white people.  

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Okay? Yeah. I mean, isn't that really what scripture says? I mean, I know they always comment as, oh, you're a white supremacist because that's another great way to demonize people that wanna actually learn about this stuff. Right. But the instruction is to remain separate.   Yeah. That's right. Because then things work for everyone. They don't work just for us. They work for everybody else as well.  

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Yeah. That's And history proves that whenever we we bring in nonwhites to work for us as slaves or or for other things,   our civilization   beings begins to fall apart.   Yep. Okay? Because the we get fat and lazy, let them do all the work, and then Yeah. Then we hire them for cheap and work against our own kinsmen, and that should never happen.   Okay?   But now it's being orchestrated. Fault.  

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It's it's ours. No. It's not. It's not Yeah. It's ours. Exactly.   It's our fault. We're completely responsible for this mess, except most people, of course, don't have the knowledge to see that. Yeah. And so end up blaming or getting all punchy and all this, that, and the other and easily then deceived into going combative about all of these sorts of things. It's ridiculous, really. Right. Yeah. But there we go. Because, rich white people make money off of importing nonwhites into our countries  

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in in partnership with the Jews. That's how it works. Okay? They do. I think we we talked about how during, the middle ages, the Jews got their franchise to collect taxes and,   start liquor companies   in partnership   with the, with the nobility.   So the our nobility has always been in partnership with the Jews to oppress us. That was the warning given to David  

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and to the Israelites of the day. And we're living that out. Eli, we're gonna Okay. We're gonna have to have you back again. I want to you know? And,   and just to let you know, if you haven't got a copy of Eli's books,   or book, The Great Impersonation, you can get it from moneytreepublishing.com.   Also, Eli's on Radio Soapbox and Eurofoot Radio every Sunday from 3PM to 04:30PM,   UK time.   Work that back into eastern time, but, my five hours there was at 10AM to 11:30AM   eastern. Right. That'll change a bit when the clocks go all doo lally, but Oh, not a doubt about that. Thanks for that.   Yeah. Great. Well, it's it's in October, but I'm just gearing up for it. Sorry about the technicals this week. If you if you've missed stuff, go to the podcast. We'll be back again at the same time, and we won't have any technical troubles this week.  

Thank you, Eli. Thanks for the day. Thanks everyone for being here. Thank Thank you, guys. Cool. Alright. Pleasure. Take care. Bye. Pleasure. Bye. You can carry on talking to one another now because we're not getting broadcast. Okay? Okay.