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In this lively and spontaneous episode, we celebrate the 100th show with a mix of technical mishaps and humorous banter. The conversation meanders through various topics, including the challenges of starting the show on time, the significance of reaching 100 episodes, and the humorous chaos that ensues. The hosts share personal anecdotes, discuss the importance of music in uplifting spirits, and explore the cultural impact of different musical genres. The episode also touches on historical perspectives, such as the Council of York's stance on usury in 1311, and the intriguing story of the Donner Party's survival. The discussion takes a deeper turn as the hosts delve into the complexities of law and banking, highlighting the need for clearer understanding and education on these subjects. They emphasize the importance of local community connections and the potential for change through grassroots efforts. The episode concludes with reflections on the power of music, the influence of technology on modern life, and the need to reconnect with more tactile and meaningful experiences. Throughout, the hosts maintain a light-hearted and engaging tone, making for an entertaining and thought-provoking listen.
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Unknown:
Really late with I knew my brain's not working well today. I've forgotten to actually broadcast to YouTube and rumble on it. It's okay. We'll be just a couple of minutes late. That's fine. Yeah.
[00:00:18] Unknown:
I was thinking about talking about shock.
[00:00:21] Unknown:
Where are you? They're they're not even in shock. Hey. We're live right now anyway on, WBN. Are we? Yeah. We are. Hello? Yeah. We are. We're not live anywhere else at the moment. We're not live on Rumble, so let's keep but anyway, look. So, this show goes out on Well, should I No. No. No. Just chill. It's fine. I think it's brilliant that the one hundredth show, I've had a feeling about all day was gonna be a complete mess. Hi, everybody out there on WBN. But it's just been a bit of a it's been one of those days, Eric. It really has. Don't worry. Everybody will be sat there moaning like mad. Just a minute. And I'll tell you when we're connected to Getting one's knickers in a twist is Yeah. Yeah. It really has. So I've just pressed the rumble button. Just hold your horses, and I'll I'll do the intro. Hang on. I'll have a look, see if you're on there.
[00:01:08] Unknown:
It'll take about thirty seconds for rumble to catch up. So Rumble's not in yet. I can't see you.
[00:01:14] Unknown:
I'll put somebody in chat. Okay. Let's just mute you. I'm just gonna mute you guys anyway, okay, for a second. Alright? Because we'll be there through and everything. Hello. Good evening. Good middle of the night, actually. In fact, it's through in the middle of the night. Oh, just a minute. Hello? Good middle of the night, actually. In fact, it's a good evening. Through in the middle of the night. Oh, just a minute. Hello? Good middle of the night, actually. In fact, we'll be there through in the middle of the night. Oh, just a minute. Oh, I'm in a good mood today. Hi. Welcome to Paul English live. I know it doesn't seem like it. I actually don't even feel alive, but welcome. It is, 08/14/2025.
I wish it wasn't. This is show number 100 and that must be nearly the one hundredth cock up for starting the show. How about that? But I'm pretty sure all the signs are now there that I'm alive. Welcome to the show. Let's do that music thing and then I can get my brains put back into my bottom. It's too warm for me today. My brain's gonna like Jell O. Not that I know what Jell O is. I'm British. Hi, everyone. Have I got everything ready? I think I might have. Oh wow. That's the best that's the best useless star ever. I think, I think that's really good actually.
100 shows in and I was saying I was being all cocky last week saying how everything had gone great. I haven't had a complete cock up like that for ages. My brain's been frazzled all day. I don't know why. I don't know whether I actually woke up it in my head. Too many late nights of course burning the midnight oil, yacking with people like Eric and others. But anyway, I hope you've had a cracking week. Here we are, show 100 and it means nothing. It's actually meaningless. It's just a number on a sheet on a sheet of paper or on a page but maybe it means a couple of things. We're nearly two years into this lark. And maybe, what with all the draconian laws of freedom that are being imposed on us, in other words, the removal of all our freedoms, maybe it's a really appropriate number to have. Anyway, wherever you are, wherever you're listening, I'm not gonna apologize too much for the beginning but that was a lot of fun. If you'd seen me just now over the last two or three minutes, should have had a right laugh. It's probably better than the rest of the show put together. But we're running on Rumble, we're running on YouTube, we're going out over WBN three two four. Hi, all you people on WBN. We're going out now over Radio Soapbox because that was cocked up too. Every single thing that could have gone wrong then went wrong, which means that from now on it's all going to go right and we'll start off by introducing Eric. Good evening to you, Eric. How are you?
[00:05:06] Unknown:
Good evening, Paul. And I think you should have started off with happy days are here again. No. No. No. You're not supposed to say it. Over and over and over again. Yeah.
[00:05:15] Unknown:
No. No. It's all it's all coming up. It's all coming up. We're gonna we're gonna be hap hap hap hap happy days today. Every day. I'm gonna play it. Well, I didn't know whether I ought to steal it from you. So I don't know if any of you know, but Eric Yeah. Eric Eric has a show for Mondays and Sundays. And there was a bit of a there was a bit of a a moment the other day where a song that was being played called Happy Days Are Here Again played again and again and again and again. I think about five times. By the end of it everybody's quite miserable really I think what they
[00:05:49] Unknown:
but brainwashed and did it you're very happy and we should have had Fockham's some propaganda minister or Nathan he's a proper he would have said you know you will listen to it, but happy days are here again and be happy. Yeah.
[00:06:04] Unknown:
Yeah. You will. Absolutely. Yeah. So, yeah. By the way, I put the only title I put for this show, by the way, it was just open house. I'm gonna tell you the way I feel halfway through the show, I think I am gonna open a bottle of wine. I think we'll do the first I'll try and do my first drunken show. I don't get drunk really. Sad, isn't it? It would actually make it rather more amusing if I did, but welcome to the open house of show 100 for whatever it's worth. There'll never be another show like this. Thank crikey.
Thankfully, because because it's, it's got off in a silly way. Anyway, if you're on Rumble Never mind. Yeah. I'm just having a look. Is is we're all running on Rumble, isn't it? There are not too many, oh, yeah. I see a couple of channels. Look. Cool. Are we all Yes. Yes. They're all all in. Mark Anthony. Hello, Mark.
[00:06:54] Unknown:
He's, like, usually in my chat as well. Mhmm. So Mark Anthony, 72. Very good man. Yes. And, Woody Peak. Hello. And who have we got in the other one? We've got, Brazil Blitz. That's a good name, ain't it? Brazil Blitz, Gary Davis,
[00:07:12] Unknown:
and Brazil Blitz. Really? Yeah. Mhmm. Well, shout out over in YouTube. Shout out to Peter Croft and Louise Ford and John Hales and Gary Davis and oh, yeah. As you said, Brett's Sue Sparkle. And Sue Sparkle.
[00:07:27] Unknown:
Yes. Sue Sparkle. Can anybody guess who Peter Croft is?
[00:07:33] Unknown:
No. We can't. Me? Who's Peter Croft?
[00:07:37] Unknown:
Because I got several accounts. You said, whatever is Peter Croft. So there we go. You won't be very good as a spy, Eric, would you? Really? Come on. You've just Oh, sorry. I am a spy. No. Yeah. But I work for the I work for the, raw mint. I'm a mince pie.
[00:07:52] Unknown:
Yeah. See? So so so so so This is just that joketastic already. We're already we're not even ten minutes. That's actually Yes. You know, Sue Sparkle. Hi, Sue. By the way, obviously, we've never met or spoken, but every time I've seen your name come up, it's reminding me of something and it just clicked what it was. You ever seen,
[00:08:16] Unknown:
I can't remember the name of the film now. Good grief. Strictly Ballroom. I did remember it. Have you ever seen that film Strictly Ballroom in it? I've heard of it. I'm not sure I've seen it because I used to have a girlfriend that liked all the dance films and I'll stretch through all of them.
[00:08:31] Unknown:
So you're not much of a dancer, Larry. Is that what you're saying? No.
[00:08:36] Unknown:
I'm a complete I I have a very long family tradition of non dancers. My father would never dance with my mother. And I have my feet firmly nailed to the floor. I do not dance. I'm a complete yes. I am a non dancer. And, I actually went to dancing classes with a girlfriend I had. Yeah. And we was dancing around. I said, Scooby, what's this song? She's and he said, have you ever heard a record called Get Off My Bloody Toe?
[00:09:02] Unknown:
Strange, ain't it? Because I said, Scooby, what's this song? She'd get off my bloody toe. I mean, I never heard of that record. Have you? No. So there we are. No. Well, I've never done that. I've never done that to a delicate lady or a delicate lady's small feet. There's nothing worse, actually, if you are a bloke and you stand on someone's foot, particularly if it's a small foot attached to a pretty lady. Yes. It's all over. It's finished, really. It's done. Yeah. Yeah. It's all over. Not that I suppose not that people get together. Anyway, but what was my anecdote? I was gonna say, oh, yeah. So Sue Sparkle. Right. So there's this film called Strictly Ballroom.
It's kind of is it semi camp? I don't know. I don't think it is really. It's it's about it's about ballroom dancing in Australia, mate, and it's just got I thought it was one of my it's a film I went to see when I was courting, you see, and it went down really well. It was great. I don't think I picked it or anything like that, but one of the it's set in the world, the highly competitive world of Australian ballroom dancing, you know, where they all get flopped up to boogery and they're all covered in alright. And it's about this guy who's a little bit not satisfied with it and he's got this terrible relationship with his parent. Well, it's actually very fractious.
His father has become really a hermit in the family. He's he's very subdued and he knows nothing about the history of his mother and father as being champion dancers in in the ballroom world from years ago, but something bad happened to his dad and all sorts of stuff like this. But anyway, to cut to the short of it, there is a a beautiful dancer, Sue, in there called Tina Sparkles. That's what it reminded me of. I just Oh. Yeah. So there you go. Tina Sparkles. Okay. It's very it's a great film, actually. It's very it is a great film. It's just full of it's very Aussie and it's also got actually, no, I don't like dancing too much either really, but it's got my favorite dance scene in any film ever ever. Right?
And I think you'd like it too, Eric, and I'll tell you why. I've got to get set you a bit of context right. He's, he's supposed to dance with all these, fancy gals in the dance studio. He's this lad. I can't remember his name and, he's kind of there's a girl called Fran who, at the beginning of the film, is a bit plain Jane and dowdy dressed and all this kind of stuff, you know, so and she's doing the sort of two steps and the foxtrot, all this kind of tame stuff in the dance studio, But he ends up getting to know her and, because he wants to dance his own steps. That's it. It's all about can you dance your own step.
I sound like an expert on this stuff. I've never been dancing in my life, everybody. There's still time, yeah, isn't there? Anyway, he, they go off. They trot off one day and they come back to where she lives. And, she lives with her uncle and there's all these and she's of Spanish descent. So it's all this Spanish family around the back having a barbie and everything. There's the Spanish mum there and it's quite a groovy atmosphere. You'd kind of like all this kind of stuff and they're burning a fire in a sort of oil barrel. It's called a bit roughty toughty on the rough side of town. And they come back and, he's furious that he's brought that she's come home late.
And he said, there's nothing to pick on her. And he starts pushing him around, this young lad, you know. He said, what do you do? He said, I dance. Uh-huh. He says, you dance? He says, what do you dance? He said, all sorts of things. He said, what? He said, paso doble. You heard of that dance? Paso doble dance? At least you've heard of it. Yeah? Yeah. I've heard of paso doble. Yeah. It's it's you've got to watch this scene is just brilliant. This guy, the the Spanish guy, short, full of fire. It's really good. It looks at him and goes 'Pasa Doble? You show me your Paso Doble.' Right? So he starts doing it with Fran. This Spanish guy just starts laughing and he calls all his mates out. They all come out, they're just laughing their socks off at him, and this young lad's getting furious about this. 'What's wrong with this? What's wrong with this?' He said, 'Pastor Doble, come with me.' So he takes him around the back and, the mama, as it were, the spat- the elderly Spanish lady who's been in the washing machine, she's a big gal. Big, right?
Rather large. Yeah. Lovely, but large. And this guy is in this sort of torrid stuff, jet black, really fiery black hair, short, full of fire as a sort of human being. And he dances he does this dance with this woman, and it's fantastic.
[00:13:31] Unknown:
It's absolutely brilliant. I've heard of that. It's
[00:13:34] Unknown:
a professional dancer, isn't she, apparently? She well, she might be, but it's just to do with the energy and the whole of this ritual of that particular you'll have seen it. It's the one where the the woman that is stood all still on one side of the dance floor and the guy is basically a bull. Right? He moves around all over the place like a bull and he all this kind of stuff and and it's absolutely a Spanish thing and it's nothing to do with me. I'm not Spanish. I have no tapping into that culture. But I look at it and I go, if if I could ever be taught to dance anything, it will be that because you also get to wear the most fantastic boots. And when they're stamping on the ground, it's the most it's very manly.
[00:14:13] Unknown:
Oh, yes. You get all the special. Wonderful. Yes. Because my dad had a theory about dancing. Yeah. See, this is my dad's theory. So don't please don't get upset. I mean, I mean, he sort of acted as a messenger. And he said, there's need two types of people that dance, women and poofs. Well, I When I went dancing classes, I was dragged off to dancing classes. He's talking about the sun. He says, is there something you haven't told me, son? You know what I mean? Are you perfectly alright? And, actually, the girl I was with said that dancing with me was a bit like dancing with a panzer tank with a dodgy gearbox.
[00:14:48] Unknown:
She'd seen one. She and she'd seen me in panzer tank.
[00:14:53] Unknown:
Yeah. Should you go forward? Did you go back? Back when you should go forward. I've got a bloody clue. Oh, bloody hell. I kept bumping into people. Yes. Yeah. But, but I think my dad's theory is a little bit out of date nowadays, isn't it?
[00:15:12] Unknown:
Yeah. Well, maybe. I think if you saw that, generally, I would agree with you. Yeah. Although, it's different, really. They used to have sorry. I mean, we normally talk about usury. We'll get around to that. Don't worry. But we can't talk about it for three hours straight. But we probably could, but you all get driven bug batty about it. I've got a few things to bring up about it, actually. Got some nice old stuff from 1311 that I wanted to bring into the show just to bring you some recent news. This just in from seven hundred years ago. No. But, Did you dig some poor sod up, did you? It's it's it's you have revived him. Digging him up, found all these bloody usury receipts under his armpits. They went, oh, it was you, was it? Yeah. No. It was, but, what were we talking about? I've got completely lost. I was talking about dancing. Oh, yeah. Dancing. Yeah. We used to have come dancing, didn't we, on telly? Do you remember? Yes. Remember? Yes, ma'am. I I I've actually been I've actually suffered that. Yes. I've suffered from that. It was unbelievable.
But a girl's greatest. Kid going, what are they doing? It's just, I think my dad used to go all the time. He said, look at them all done up like
[00:16:14] Unknown:
Puffs.
[00:16:15] Unknown:
Like puffs.
[00:16:16] Unknown:
Look at You know, my I've never seen such puffery in all my life.
[00:16:21] Unknown:
Of course, my mum loved it because the ladies and this is true. And I guess I'm terrible. The ladies were all wearing it's one of those lights. Listen. It's a pub night tonight. It's an open house. We're just having a drink and having a chat here tonight. Really, it's loose as a goose night. Very loose. Yeah. And We're the Queen's Lakes pub, aren't we? Yeah. Yeah. We're going on a pub crawl. We're starting off at the Queen's Lakes because it's always up they're always open. Yeah. And that's, that's that's what you can always get you always get a pint down there. My mum loved it, by the way, all that stuff, because all the ladies look beautiful, don't they? All wearing their dresses. Yes. They do look beautiful. Yes. I do I'll be the only dancing I watched was,
[00:17:02] Unknown:
Riverdance. Yeah. And I I like to see nice ladies with the short skirts, but I was put off a bit when my flatulence came prancing along on the stage, you know. And that's it. I lost interest at that point, you know. Did you? I was alright until old flatulence came on and then now I thought now better not. So I just lost interest, you know.
[00:17:21] Unknown:
It's a it is really for men. It's probably off even for young boys who wanna kick footballs around and climb up trees, it's probably one of the most uncomfortable things of all when you're that age, you know, wanting to dance. Whereas, the women naturally want to dance, don't they? I think. I mean, I I'm not trying to sort of be Alright. Maybe I've I've assumed too much. But I generally, that was my experience when I grew up, that you couldn't they always were down dying to just jump on the dance floor. And of course, they all ended up liking that, what was it? That dreaded disco music in the nineteen seventies. Oh, bloody hell.
[00:17:55] Unknown:
But I've already seen my dad dance once with my mom once. Uh-huh. And it's a very painful looking experience, because he was already a very happy go lucky bloke, you know, cracking a few jokes today, but he looked so feel bored out. Oh, you poor dad. So he's a very he's a very shy man. Was he? Self conscious. And he and it was sort of it was a bit like, a sing from Thunderbirds. You know? If you had two Thunderbird dubbies dancing, that's what it's a bit it's a bit like. Because my uncle's out of dancing with my mom. My dad refused to dance. Right.
[00:18:31] Unknown:
My my my dad wasn't too bad. I don't think my dad was too bad. I think he he was alright with it. I remember seeing all these photographs
[00:18:41] Unknown:
of you see, I think, obviously, your your dad probably didn't, therefore, I'm assume I'm assuming, bump into your mum in a dance hall, did he? No. He didn't. No. He didn't. He's very romantic, LA. And by the way, his father was a non dancer as well. He believed all the problems of this country came from the dance hall. So he was a non dancer. Yeah. All of them. He writes, all the problems in this country come from the dance floor, dance halls. Okay. Shows me granddad that believed that, and me, my dad believed it's any women in poofs that danced. So it's I've got a background. Really?
[00:19:19] Unknown:
This is a new one on me. It it it's not you're saying it's not the Fabian Society. It's not the Masons. It's the dancehall managers that are really responsible for much of the plight that we're suffering. Well, that's
[00:19:32] Unknown:
that's right. My grandfather's just thoughts. He said, since they since they had was it dance halls, that's where the troubles of this country started. All this dancing.
[00:19:42] Unknown:
Yeah. Well, I don't know I don't know when dance hall started up, but I know I had a I don't think I've still got it. There's a photograph, that used to be in the sort of family heirloom and all that kind of stuff kicking around. My mum and my dad at a dance at the Astoria Ballrooms in Leeds in 1948 or '49 when they first met. They got married about '51, '52 something like that about three years later and, they're all there. I might have mentioned this before, this is exciting stuff isn't everybody? You've all tuned in for this. Let's hear about Yorkshire dance halls in the late 40s. But everybody there, and we mentioned this before, all the guys, immaculately dressed in suits, the best suits I guess they could afford with the money they had, but they look pretty good to me. They look pretty good and the women are all in proper dresses and everybody's drinking tea.
[00:20:31] Unknown:
There's no booze. Oh, how nice? Not a drop. Yeah. Yes.
[00:20:36] Unknown:
Not a drop of booze. That's a bunch of We start I think it was afternoon There were afternoon dances. They'd go down on a Saturday afternoon like 04:00 or something or 05:00 and have tea and all that kind of stuff and and just get get with it, you know. So it was, look, it look good. I suppose, Eric, when you think about it, because the dancing back then actually required conscious thought to start off with with all the proper steps, you don't want too much booze. Otherwise, you'd be absolutely, well literally legless on the dance floor. That's right. Of course. But when it's disco, it doesn't matter whether you're drunk. Maybe that's why they invented disco, so that the blokes could just get really really drunk and just bounce around all over the place, you know. Maybe it's this.
[00:21:19] Unknown:
I I I don't understand disco, but the way my grandfather met his future wife, he was a greengrocer, and he threw a rotten tomato at someone, and he missed and hit his future wife. Straight in the face. Bosh. And she went over and, apologized and mopped her down, and they fell in love. Ain't that no way?
[00:21:39] Unknown:
Well, it is really. I know as blokes, we're not supposed to talk like that, but I think you you want everybody. Look at me. It's the hundredth show. I'm going all sentimental. But you do, don't you? I mean, I don't go around saying, by the way, I think you should all fall in love, but I hope everybody does at least once or twice in their life. It's usually at least twice. But usually in your teenage years when it's the most important thing ever in the whole world. Right? And it all falls apart and you're devastated and you don't even know what's going on. I I had one of those moments when I was about 19. It took me about three weeks to understand that it was no big deal, but at the time, it was.
It seemed to be the biggest deal ever in my life. And anybody out there had that experience?
[00:22:21] Unknown:
I'm assuming you have. Oh, yes. Yes. I had that experience, but imagine, if that tomato hadn't hit my grandmother, I probably wouldn't be here. Mhmm. So it's thanks to that rotten tomato that missed and hit my grandmother because he might not have got into conversation with her. And, the way and the way my dad met my mom was very romantic. He was in the war Yeah. And his best friend dropped a picture on the floor. And my dad picked the picture up, and he's he suffered from shyness. My dad was a very shy man. And he's always says A bit like you. Film star, isn't it? A bit like you take after your daddy. You're a bit shy, aren't you?
[00:22:59] Unknown:
Yeah.
[00:23:00] Unknown:
And he said, your favorite film star? He said, no. It's my sister. And he said, oh, she's attractive. Well, certain events came along, came along, came along, and and what happened is when they came back to England in preparation for d day Mhmm. It just so happened that they had to go and pick someone up up in Colchester, and they went past my un well, it wasn't my uncle then because I wasn't born. My uncle's house and, he and they dropped something off and then my dad met my future mum. And then Wow. They blossomed and that's it. But my mum was frightened because my dad was going over on d day, and she thought she'd never see him again when she waved him off at the train.
And she thought that's the last I'm ever gonna see him because he's he's the first he's he's gonna be in the first wave in, and they won't survive. But he did. And then along came came I a long time after the war, you see. So, there we go. So that's a little bit of romance for the beginning of the show. But I also I like that. We can talk about these things. It's funny you say that about seeing photographs.
[00:24:10] Unknown:
I got this sent the other day. Did it actually, somebody sent this into the Telegram group. Gotta read it out. Right? It's a photograph of a lady, black and white photograph, looks as it's the turn of the century, early nineteen hundreds. Okay? She looks quite attractive. I mean, it's difficult to tell because it's black and white, but she's slim, trim, bit of a serious face. And the caption says, before dating apps, women used newspaper ads to find distinguished noble men. Let me read you the caption. So it's a nice picture. So if I knew how to actually blast these things out over YouTube, I'd still cock it up. So you'll just have to bear with me. Anyway, it's a radio show there so you use your imagination.
So the photographer went in the newspaper. Here's the caption beneath. I love this. Only daughter of a wealthy coffee planter will marry English nobleman or distinguished American if he is handsome and reasonably young. No French, Italians, Spaniards, or Hebrews need apply. Has a warm heart, small feet, and beautiful teeth. Can dance all night. How appropriate is that for what we've been talking about? That's the bird for me, Eric. Isn't that the for me. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. I'd like to reply that one. Yes. That's lovely. Yes. We're a bit late, I think. We'll probably we'll probably miss the RSVP deadline on that one. But it's cool, isn't it? Yes. Yeah. I quite like that. It is.
Yeah. So there you go. That's how we do. We have big massive photographs in newspapers, all very formal. I just love the directness of the request. Has a warm heart, small feet, and beautiful teeth. Can dance all night. She looks as though she could, actually. She's quite trim all night. Yes. That's it.
[00:25:41] Unknown:
And, what about, I like the lonely hearts column, you know, like, what is it? Lonely widower. Mhmm. First wife died due to eating, poisoned mushrooms. Second wife died due to eating poison mushrooms. Third wife died because she would refuse to eat the poison mushrooms. Sorry to change her
[00:26:03] Unknown:
mind. This is good. As you can see, we're dancing around all these topics tonight, ladies and gentlemen.
[00:26:09] Unknown:
We got a request we got requests from smashing the likes
[00:26:13] Unknown:
yes
[00:26:14] Unknown:
he says Paul Eric can you tell where I can find an audio copy of the hell storm book or anyone else in the chat. Thank you in advance. Yes. I don't get a hard copy.
[00:26:29] Unknown:
Right. Okay. Fire away. Well, the audio book you can get from moneytreepublishing.com.
[00:26:36] Unknown:
That's it. Okay.
[00:26:38] Unknown:
I was gonna say treepublishing.com.
[00:26:40] Unknown:
I actually know the guy that did that. Oh, it's me. So there you go. Yeah. Moneymoneytreepublishing.com. You'll get it. Fourteen hours of hell of the most awful book ever written or certainly one of them. Yes. Yeah. I used to say that to Tom all the time when he was still alive. He passed away around about this no, not this time. Nearly nearly a year ago, he passed away towards the back 2024. Was it? It was. Yeah. Yeah. But I think I mentioned at the time when he passed out when we were speaking, I said, Tom, you've written the worst book in the world. It's the most awful book, you know, but it is. It's certainly amongst the most awful books.
Yes. I hope that helps. The the the Thank you for smashing the likes. Yeah. Great. Glad to be of help. That's cool. That's great. Anybody wants any request, shout out in the chat or anything like that. And again, I'm gonna say, if you wanna call in tonight, you can call in. Okay? So, where do you go? Paul, I don't think I've got it actually up on the, I'll stick it up on the on the, Rumble and YouTube feeds momentarily Yeah. Or at least after the first hour because we'll just have a yak. Yeah. Anyway, moving on to something a little bit more serious here. Earlier in the week, Mark Anthony, who might be even here tonight in one of the I think he is. Hi there. Hi, Mark Anthony. Rumble. Hey. Mark.
Sent this really got my goat, this. There's some things that there's certain people Anyway, this is one of them. Put a post in called the concept of English ethnicity is not evil and this, of course, I agree with that. This on a site called ukreloaded.com. And the interesting thing about it is that it was a comment from a guy called John McTernan. Are you familiar with this person at all, Eric? Have you ever heard of it? I'm not.
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Never heard. Okay.
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Okay. Well, let me just I'll just read you one of the things off his Twitter feed. John, if you go look him up on Wikipedia, you'll you'll get very cross. So basically, he worked for Tony Blair. Right? He's a completely unacceptable human being to me, just like I probably am to him. On one of his tweets recently said, proud to be called a Marxist goon. How about that? Isn't that good? How nice. Proud. What a jolly what a jolly nice chap. I don't Yeah. Yeah. He is. Now, I want to play you a little clip. I've just let me just play you this clip. I don't know if I've ever played it before, but I'm gonna play it now. It's very brief. Hopefully, this will come through. Oh, we might get a few wretched adverts because I've just gone straight to YouTube. Let's have a look here. So you're looking to grow your business. Yeah. You don't have time. Shh. I'll just wait until the adverts run out. I'm just waiting for this clip to come up. It's only about forty eight seconds long.
Okay. You hear that? Here we go.
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Did the miners? Yeah. I had a So this is John McTernan
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on GB News a couple of months ago when the farmers thing was going on. Listen to this if you can. We can do to them what Margaret Thatcher did to the miners. So just to be clear, Johnny, you would, what, beat them up?
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No. Clueless I mean, clutter that this industry we could do without.
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So okay. Alright. So this got weird. So you would do to do to farmers what Margaret Thatcher did to minors, which was an you know, she was very heavy handed police tactics followed by what? Pussing them out of business?
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If people if people if if people are so upset that they wanna go on the streets and spray slurry on them, then, we don't need, the small farmers.
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Right. Okay, John. I'm not sure I'll ask a specific if you were just to clarify, you were a former labor special adviser, possibly emphasis on the word former there. But Can you believe that?
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Frightening. It is frightening. If if he had a brain, he'd be very dangerous.
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Yeah. You know,
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Boo. Yes.
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Boo. Yes. Oh, look at that. There's a there's a cross voice from America. It's very difficult for me to, feel anything other than hostility towards a man who expresses sentiments like that. He's absolutely when you see him in the clip, he's a smug, smarmy, emotionally dead hunk of flesh. An absolute I'm sorry. I I don't know what to say now because we've got new freedom laws. So probably, even if I just think I think, I get locked up. We're gonna have to look at this, of course. But he'd written a thing saying that English I can help you there. Well, he said just to go back to the original point, just hold on there, Paul. He said in this article that English ethnicity is evil.
That's what he said.
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I can't believe this. Has he ever heard of the word tree has he ever heard of the word treason? Because that's what he's committing. Because he's actually metaphorically urinating on the graves of our ancestors by saying that. Yeah. So that's treason as far as I'm concerned.
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And And everybody that fought and died Yeah. Of the country.
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Seriously. Yes. Yeah. He he's just No. I can I can help you with that? It's like the Islington set or something. Yeah. Paul, please. Hi, everybody. Welcome to Paul from America. Welcome to the show, Paul.
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Thank you. Glad to be here. Now I can help you with that because anything that you might might think to think to or want to say I mean, I can say it because, this this part of the program is not in not intended to be a attitude or a position accepted by any of the other guests or networks or whatever. I am a national of The United States. My rights and freedoms, my person rights and property are protected by treaty and international law. And I will say whatever I want to say because I can say it irrespective of whatever, statutes, acts, codes, or administrative policy that might be in effect. What I say, it should be no reflection on Eric von Essex or Paul English or anybody else on this program or on this or any other network, WBM three two four, Global Voice Radio, Eurofolk radio dot com, radio soapbox. It doesn't matter. It's all on me. Come and get me. My rights person and property are protected by treaty and international law. So whatever I wanna say, I will say, and that guy is an absolute idiot. He's a fool, and, he should not be given a platform of any kind.
Nope. Not even not even writing his dribble on paper airplanes and sailing him off of street corners. I mean, the guy's ridiculous.
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Yeah. He's an idiot. Yeah. No. I I mean, I don't normally react full on. I think it really woke me up. You know what I mean? You sort of go on, well, we'll just accommodate everything. But there's something about his delivery, the smug look on his face, the fact that he's proud to be a Marxist, which is basically saying, I'm glad I'm mentally ill because that's really it's a mental illness. Right? It is. So, okay. Fine. Well, at least someone's pleased about it. And they use it they use the word ethnicity. I'm not into the word ethnicity. It's simply race. Okay? So for me or tribe. All these there's so many different words to describe basically anything that a child knows that can see with his own eyes or her own eyes. Anyway, I had to write a few comments about it, of course.
So underneath it, it says what on that video, the original title was we can do to the farmers what Margaret Thatcher did to the miners. So I I've rewritten it and I think it should read this. We can do to McTernan what the English peasants did to Cromwell. What do you think, Eric?
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Excellent.
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Excellent. First class. Yes. Excellent. It's just it's called reverso headlining, and everybody should get into the habit of it. When you see these headlines, just switch the nouns or do what you need to do. You'll come up with the reverse our meaning, and it'll be right in line with where you're thinking your heart is every single time. The idea that a man could come out and verbally attack farmers, he might as well say, we're gonna starve you all to death. I mean, that's literally what he's saying.
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I agree. Yes. Is is that yes. Right. Yeah. And we need to get the bowler hat farmer on here because he's been on my show a couple of times,
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and he's How fit is he? At the front end. He's he's a farmer. He'd be quite fit. Can we have a fight between him and John McTernan? I'm serious. Just have a fight. Get a farmer in. Get in there, McTernan. Let's see what you made of, you pansy. And he just needs blatting. I just I mean, it's just Yeah. It's complete it's the worst. And a couple more things I wanted to say, right, because I wrote a couple of things. So I said as well, just in the little thread, the word springs to mind. Do you remember that word? It came up several months ago. Yes. Yeah? It what was it? That's German, isn't it? It means It's German. I'm gonna copy and paste it, by the way, to all you all you lucky chaps and in the, I think I know what it means. Yeah. It may go on. What do you think it means? He who is desperately in need of a fist in the face. That's it. It's a face in need of a fist.
Isn't that great? Face in need of isn't that a lovely term? A face that needs a fist. Yeah. It's just that urban, of course, proper words. You know, we don't we don't we don't use any of those Latin things. We're using proper words here. Well, is it now? Is it it was a a a was it a oh,
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You you said it once. I can't I can't remember it. What was it? You want to say it again?
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Oh, yes, please. Yes. I'm got well, I'm pasting it in so you can all practice your pronunciation, everybody. I've sent it I've sent it to the grumblers in Rumble. Not that they are grumblers. They're fantastic. And I'm sending it over to YouTube. So look that one up. It's backfiefengesagt. Yes. And that came from mister I checked it with mister Anderson, who's gonna be on next week, actually. So Thomas Anderson, he's not been on for quite a while, but I spoke to him, the other day. So Thomas is an author, written an awful lot of books, and we'll be finding out about his English is immaculate. He's the guy that came on and talked about the bell, the Nazi bell. Do you remember? About a year back? Something like that. Yes. Yes. Yep. Yes. The naughty Nazis. Yes. Yeah. So he'll be the guest next week. But there we go. I just want you to know that. And then, also, I want to give you another quote because this sprang to mind as I was thinking about this. Yeah.
Cornillo Zilia Codriano, don't You might not know him. Okay? And, he's obviously frowned upon by the people that would frown upon this. Codriano said this, if I had but one bullet and were faced by both an enemy and a traitor, I would let the traitor have it. Yes. I'm just saying con I didn't say that but Cornelius Cudriano said it. How about this as well? Because I'm really one of a got this guy. This guy really, I found out you can find out on his Wikipedia entry, so I'm only reading stuff that's online. He also well, she's on his bets. In November 2016, McTernan bet blogger Stuart Campbell $100 on a Clinton victory in the two thousand and sixteen US presidential election, which he lost.
Campbell has said that McTernan failed to honor the bet, and Campbell has taken court action against him. Good. I I put thick as s h one t doesn't even come close with regards to this guy. He's an he's a complete and utter buffoon, but then he was appointed by Blair. And, I don't know what you're supposed to do with these people. I I mean, genuinely, I can't they need to be mentally sectioned. You you you you've got to really get them under the mental health act. I I agree with you. I'm serious. What about that? I tell the funniest what I heard, and this was on Facebook. Like, if only I can find his name, people in chat might know him. But when,
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Pol Pot came to power, which was in the nineteen seventies, he is a he was a Scottish,
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Pol Pot Marxist.
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No.
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Scott Pop. Paul Pop was Scottish.
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Hi. Hi. Had a couple of McDonald's up his kilt. I can't do that. There was a yeah. Sorry. I said that a bit wrong, actually. There there was a Scottish Marxist that was so pleased that Pol Pot came to power Mhmm. That he flew over to Cambodia to thank him, you know, to shake his hand. Mhmm. And when he got off the plane, instead of getting a red carpet, they put him in jail because they thought he was a spy, and then they hung him. It's just
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what are you supposed to do with people?
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That's about the one good thing that Pol Pot did, I think.
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He was a nasty piece of work. He really was a horrible creature, Pol Pot. Oh, yeah. Absolutely appellant. But, you know Yeah. They're cut from the same ideological cloth. There's something basically unstable, about them. Really. There is something It's very very dreadful.
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But what gets me, I strongly believe these these people have a hypnotic power. I mean, how did Mao manage to kill almost a billion people not personally but get people they they are such manipulators it's like you could never ever out out maneuver a psychopath You never been a psychopath. Get out of the way of them because they're so brilliant at what they do.
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It's true they are. The way they
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yeah. You you you never be just just make sure you get them as far away from me as you could possibly can. You know? You've heard of a guy have you heard of a guy called Edgar Cayce? Yes. Oh, yes. He was, the bloke who predicted things in his dreams.
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It's an amazing life. Yeah. An amazing life. And I have I've got one book by him, but he spoke at one of the meetings. These papers came out after his death, I think. I can't remember when he died. Was it late thirties or early forties or something like that? Nineteen forties. No. It's in the nineteen forties, late forties, I think. Okay. '45. He was talking basically about what we would say is the psychopathic personality. And he said that that there are human looking humans down here that really haven't got a soul. That's right. Right. And I suspect that that's true.
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I think it is true. Just look at Keir Starmer.
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Well, he I think he must have started off with one, basically. Out of him. Something's happened dreadful for him. You know, if I take a more sympathetic view, you could just go, that's tragic. But the problem is he's in charge of supposedly in charge of the country, and therefore, it's it's not just tragic. It's, it's very, very dangerous. Very.
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Yeah. Well, it's The the reason that psychopaths are so hard to beat is because they are willing to take actions that the people are unwilling to take to to defend their own lives. Mhmm. The psychopaths are willing to take actions to kill the people, And the people won't go to that extreme just to defend themselves. Yeah. They just won't do it. No. So they're slaughtered like sheep.
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Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. It's fun fun fun. So actually, I've got a little I've I've just I didn't think I had any clips. Now I'm just banging around and finding them. You remember Margaret Thatcher?
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You are. Can't forget. I can't can't forget anything.
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This is only fifteen seconds, but I'm gonna it's now because I never know quite where we're gonna go. Some of these clips sort of fit in. This one fits in right now. This is just fifteen seconds. This is what she had to say, I guess, in the eighties, nineteen eighties.
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The single biggest intellectual error during my political lifetime has been to confuse freedom with equality. In fact, equality, being an unnatural condition which can only be enforced by the state, is usually the enemy of liberty.
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There you go. There is it can only be enforced by the state. I've you know, I'm always banging on about this word equality. There's no such thing except through force. And then it's not equality, is it? Because someone's an enforcer and someone's the enforcer or whatever your status is, the guy being beat up. Yes. It's complete joke. And that's what Marxists are all about. The pursuit of equality is literally death to everybody else. It's that's what it means. That's right.
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Look at Martin Luther King. He was a he was a brilliant actor. Yeah. That's the ending. He's a very clever actor, but the speech that he gave He liked brothels too. You know? He loved brothels. I didn't know I didn't know do you know he liked drinking broth? He did. Yeah. He loved he loved Yeah. Like, four pints of brothels. Up. Yeah. About
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four pints of brothels. Down the queen's legs, though. They won't let him in.
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Get out of here. I thought we I thought we went in there. In the first. Yeah. But, yes, there's a nice picture of him, with his handlers next to him. I won't say any more than that. That a very famous picture of him with yes but he was just an actor that's all and he just read that just read the words very clever actor of that
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Aren't we scathing about all these amazing people in history? Aren't we aren't we awful about them? Shouldn't we pay them all to respect people? Aren't we terrible about them? There are no really.
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There are no amazing people in history. There are evil, wicked, despicable people that have been presented to us as deities so we can, carve out an entire month for them just to just give them their special day and give them their all at Columbus. Christopher Columbus? Oh, he was just a prince. You know? Just ask a Native American who Christopher Columbus was. I don't think they're gonna say, we worship him on his own day.
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No. No. No. No. They're not gonna say that. But
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there's there's lots of them like that, isn't there? I mean, you you think everybody has held I mean, look at the Dalai Lama. The Dalai Lama oh, his marvelous. The real one can't stand him. I believe he's, I believe he's on the payroll of the CIA, allegedly, I believe.
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Is there a possibility? Whatever. I've got I've I've got an anecdote about the Dalai Lama. It's not I mean, it's actually it's silly. I I an old friend of mine, who's also passed away about nine years ago, in Peru. So the location was exotic but the manner of his passing was not quite so good. However, wonderful guy I'm sorry with that. Close friend of mine. Well, you don't know these guys. We've all it happens all the time. He, before he left England because he was to go over there wait. He lived in England all his life. But I remember him telling me, you know, we have a thing over here. If you're in America, you might know of it. Maybe you have something similar called the pub quiz.
They have one, don't they? Every week at the Queen's Lakes, don't they? I think, Eric. That's right. That's right. Yep. Yes. That's it. That's when they're open. Yeah. Yeah. The pub That that this joke about the Queen's Legs is gonna run and run, isn't it? That's what I did there. Yeah. Yes. It is. And,
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Oh, lots more knowledge to get out of that one.
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We've we've barely begun everybody. You're about to bring your bath bag next week. So, anyway, yeah. He was in a pub quiz. Right? And the question he sat with these guys, and he he had a lot of good general knowledge knowledge. He was quite good with all this stuff. His football questions and junk and TV stuff. But one came up and said, oh, question number 32. Who is the spiritual head of Tibet? Who is the spiritual head of Tibet? So this guy next to him writes down dial a llama, which I just like.
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Dial a llama.
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Dial a llama. Hi. Is he there? I've just dialed him up. Now dial a llama. Do you need one? I it's dial a llama. I quite like that. Yeah. It's,
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good lord. What about that engine geyser? What's that? What's that? Engine geyser. It's an engine geyser called fake guru, And he ends up mean sad guru. Sat like when fake guru, but sad guru. Yeah. He's saying he's at the, economic World Economic Forum. Yeah. And he wants to reduce the population. Oh, yes.
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How sad can he get? Do you think do you think they roped him into appeal to that race of people, to that culture? I wonder if they did that, or is it the over in the West, they associate guys with long beards coming from that part of the world with wisdom because I don't, by the way. Any bloke that stands on one leg in a jungle for twenty five days doing this yoga stuff, what is the bloody point of that? It could have been getting on with doing something like getting some plumbing work done.
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So It could have been fixing his shed up. Oh, by the way, Mark Anthony's just said, as your dad used to say no. It's actually my granddad, Mark, used to say that, that John McTernan, needs a bag of hot shit over his head.
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I'm terribly sorry out there in Radio Land. This comes sometimes turns into a slightly vulgar show, and it just did Oh, terribly sorry. Terribly sorry. We are sorry, aren't we? We're terribly, terribly sorry about all this stuff. Yes.
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It's like if Well, I do. If I see an innuendo if I see an innuendo, I I just I just whip it out. I'd, you know, I'd hardly say any innuendos. So
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See seeing as you open the door, you know, granddad, he lived to be a 106 years old. And, he had when he was, like, 22 years old, he met this old farmer. And this old farmer told him, sprinkle a little bit of gunpowder on your eggs every morning, and you'll live to a ripe old age. Well, granddad, he did that religiously every single day. He lived to be 106. He had eight strong boys. He had 21 grandchildren. He had eight great grandchildren and four great great children. In mentally, he also left about a 40 foot hole where the crematorium used to be.
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It's quite like that. I like that one. Tonight, isn't it? It's quite like that one. Oh, that's a crack at that one. Oh, that's a cracker. Oh, by the way, Woody Pete says, Sadhguru is a sick gobletist. Oh, you're you're praising him there. And, oh, by the way, well, Andy says apologies, mister English, for lowering
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the tone up. No. It's been quite a long time. Started yet, Mark Anthony. We're gonna have to go quite away yet. It's early days. Yeah. Don't worry. I forgot we're before before the 09:00 watershed. I do apologize,
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to the people who go, oh, you're listening in. But, now the thing is is that, my granddad got it right. He wants a bag of what's it over his over his head or in his face.
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But how do these people get into such prominent positions? That's what I question. The main reason I think they may have financial assistance from a slightly hidden quarter myself, Eric, but call me a conspiracy theorist. Yes. I yes. I tend to that view. Really. I do tend to that view. Rather like Idi Amin's
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son was talking about this week. I don't know if you saw that. I did. Brilliant. But Absolutely spot on. And Yeah. Idi Amin, I I'm beginning to re question because I was old enough to remember when he was in power, and the propaganda was thickened coming over a thick and a lot of people have said there's a lot of rubbish that are said about him. I do not know.
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Well, where did we hear it all from? Where did we hear it all from? The BBC. Yes. Okay. So I'm not saying he was a good guy. No. Didn't he eat his enemy? According to them, they used to put his enemies in the fridge and eat them, didn't he?
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Well, that's why all good dictators doing it. I mean, that's Well, you're a bit peckish.
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You're you're victorious in the battle, and you That's right. Your cupboards are a bit there. Sorry. Sorry. I'm gonna have to wake you up. Yeah. A bit much. That's not true. I'm gonna have to wake you up. Yeah. A bit much. That's not true. Actually, speaking of cannibalism true it is. Speaking of cannibalism, which I do all the time, it's a dreadful thought, isn't it? Actually, I'm getting a bit peckish as we're talking about this, but, do you remember that, I caught this the other day. So it this is called jumping around from one topic to another with no particular structure type show. Okay? So it's just the way it's gonna roll. But my son said, hey, dad. Have you seen this? And I said, no. And he put it on. It was an interview with a survivor from the Argentinian rugby crash. Do you remember that?
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Oh, yes. Yes. Well, they were all outwit each other.
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It's absolutely what an interview. It's horrendous. Abs well, it's a him as a man, this guy that's about there were 45 of them crashed and seventeen came out alive. So there's about twenty five died. Something like that. Right? And he but his testimony, it's about forty minutes, this interview, is absolutely gripping because he's very calm. He's a very distinguished and handsome looking guy now in his sixties. Really, very striking. Sort of a very, like, you would imagine a sort of mature statesman looking. Wonderful guy. Absolutely wonderful. And he's just talking about how his life literally changed, and what happened in the crash, and how their thoughts turned to survival.
And the the whole struggle for it. Can't recommend it highly enough. And, they didn't sit down and sort of cook them all up. That's not what they that's not what they did and he was just talking about hunger. He said, you can go for a few days and be hungry. He said, this isn't like that. This is that your entire body is absolutely craving food. It's almost he said, it's one of the most terrible terrible things. You want to just eat anything. Your body is just screaming out to get sustenance into it. And, they they ate the pilot.
How about that? They ate the pilot. No. Of course. No more flying for him. But I think, they were a bit cross because the pilot did make an error and that's why they ended up it was a it was pilot error. He he misread these coordinates and, so he actually landed the plane in the wrong part, thought it was 45 miles further on, and dropped the plane down into the, the early part of the so they were only about 45 miles away from civilization, but it's so cold up there. They might as well have been 45,000 to to start off with. And they called the search off after about ten days where there's they've and some of the things that they had to get up to is it's amazing. Absolutely an amazing story, and, it changed all their life. Now there's a picture at the end of the survivors. They're all still alive, about 17 of them today.
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Quite an amazing tale. If you like that sort of thing psychological that's right. I think the psychological effect that had done them, though, I mean, how they could have got over that. I mean, it must be in a some form of shock. Although, it depends on the individual because this is the subject I was gonna go on to later on, that shock. Mhmm. Because I think most of the country is in shock. Because something like that would put you into shock. Survival situation. We
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had a similar thing like that here.
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It's there's a Sorry. Sorry. Sorry. Sorry. Sorry. That's very simple. Did you say that? Well, it was a
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It was it was the Old West. It was the Old West, and it was on the Oregon Trail. And there was a group of people that were traveling the Oregon Trail, and they went over what's called Donner Pass. Right. And they, they had, problems, and, they couldn't go any further, and they ran out of food. And what they would do is they actually, like, voted as to who would who they would eat next. And they had turned I mean, some people had turned to cannibalism to survive, and it was it was, understood that the group would vote on who the weakest and the least likely to survive the trip would be, and then that would be who they would eat. It was called the Donner Party. Look it up. Google it. It's horrible. It's absolutely horrible. How do you spell Donner?
D o n n e r, delta Oscar
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November November echo Romeo. This is a bad joke, you man. I don't want to tell it.
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No.
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Paul, are you gonna gonna ring out what? What? Billy Billy Silvers. I don't know. Listen. It's made me thinking of Donner kebabs. I wonder if that's where it came from.
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You know, it's that's awful. Never done it. Because it used to be the Royal Navy all the time. Well, it did. Oh, that that was that was shipwrecks and everything out in a raft after a battle and everything, floating around the Atlantic. I mean, bloody hell, what you're gonna it's just unbelievable, really. So there you go. Anyway But are you gonna read out what Billy Silver said? I'm going to you're the you you are the you you read it out. So Billy Silver gets comment of the year so far. This is we're just gonna have to go back to the last stand about. I mentioned, of course, they crashed in the Andes and the guy that they ended up eating was the pilot and Billy Silver said
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They ate the pilot. That's probably why they crashed. So I said, like, funny boat.
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It's so bad, but it's so funny. Look. I'm trying to fly the bloody plane.
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Go ahead. Hey. Give me that give me that arm back. I need that. I need that.
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Stop putting salt and pepper on my arm, will you?
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You know, I wouldn't be sneezing so much if you'd keep that damn pepper away from my face. What are you doing?
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Are we, are we really we're really plunging the we're really getting into bad taste territory, aren't we? Pun intended. How can a how can a show be so lighthearted and so dark at the same time? I think all English live is the English way. English way, Paul. This is what we do over here. Well It's called gallows humor. We're just absolutely laughing our socks off as we get shot to pieces. Well, that's been rough. But his head get cleaned off. All that kind of stuff. Yeah. Yeah. So it's, it's just the way it is over here, mate. That's what that's what people are like. We're absolute scum. Yeah. Aren't we, Eric? I know I am. Well, you sir certainly are. Yeah. But it it's
[00:57:17] Unknown:
quite honestly, though. I mean, that's what's got us through hardship, this gallows shoe, quite honestly.
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Yeah. Well, right. Yeah. There's been a lot of gallows around, hasn't there? There's been a lot of gallows around.
[00:57:28] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah.
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Oh.
[00:57:32] Unknown:
Anyway, look at all the Well, what about that gravestone up north very quickly? That's see seriously, you can go and see it, pick the photograph of it. Wherever you may be, let your wing go free because that's what killed me that's actually on a gravestone up north like you see I think it's up in say that again right here say it again on a gravestone he said wherever you may be let your wind go free as that's what killed me. Wind? That's on a gravestone. Yes. Let your wind go free. God, because that's what killed me.
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Oh, boy. That's the way you deal with it. That's the way you deal with it. Yeah. Fantastic stuff. That's brilliant. Anyway, look, we're we're we've raced through the first hour down here at the Queen's Lakes and, so welcome again everybody to the show. I hope you're all warming up. You got a glass of your favorite tipple. Mine's currently a pathetic sort of water and apple juice but I I am I am thinking about a glass of Chablis or something like that. Anyway, let's have a song, shall we? We do have a song Yes. And, seen as other theme is happiness, because we're always happy here, I want to play you this song which is a very happy song by one of Eric's favorite singers.
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Yes.
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Here it comes. Here it comes. So we'll be with you after this little song, and sing along now everybody. It's all about happiness.
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It's a half half happy day. It is. For you and me, for us and we, all the cows have rolled away. It's a half half happy day. The sunshine brighten the world all right. It's a half half happy day. Four and twenty sunbeams are dancing round my face. Four score and 20 more are dancing every place. It's a half, half, happy day. Got our heads on the run. Let's shout it out so everybody can hear it. We found our place in the sun. It's a half, half, It's a half, half, happy day. For you and me, but I'll send we all the clouds have rolled away. It's a half, half, happy day.
The sunshine's bright and the world's alright. It's a half, half, happy day.
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So just in case you weren't clear, it really is a hap hap happy day. And, I'm assuming, Eric, you feel a lot happier having heard I know. That song. Yeah.
[01:02:51] Unknown:
Yeah. You know, they've shown they were made during during the depression or when people were down to cheer people. You mean the 02/2020?
[01:02:59] Unknown:
Happy?
[01:03:00] Unknown:
The depression. Yeah. February. The 2000 But could you think of any records today that really cheer you up? I can't think of any that cheer you up. There's none. No. Not at all.
[01:03:10] Unknown:
Well, there's room for the new record label called cheerful records. Everything's happy.
[01:03:15] Unknown:
Yes. Yeah. We we should have that. Yeah. Because, I got one on my mind. Where was it? Where was it there? Marty Wilde made one about a place in Wales. What was it called now? Oh, oh, do you remember it? Oh, sixties, late sixties. Right. And he thought it's such a weird name, that he wrote a song about it when oh someone in chat will find it, I can't I'm sure it must be somewhere. Marty Wilde 1968 he made a hit with it. And it's a real happy song. We used to have lots of happy songs, but,
[01:03:55] Unknown:
it's so sad. I I didn't now. Don't mention his name, but I haven't mentioned who sung that song, have I, in the show so far? I haven't No. I don't know. No. No. No. I don't know what to say because Well, I can't say it. I don't know who he is. Oh, good. Good. Good. That's even better. Yeah. So, tonight's, pub quiz. First question tonight's pub quiz. Winner gets a Fockem Hall penciled courtesy of the Phantom postal service from Fockem Hall. You'll just have to imagine it turns up. Who was it that sung that song? Who was it? What was the name of the singer the singer who was singing that song?
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Peter Glaze. Was it Peter Glaze? Nope. From Cracker Jack? No. It wouldn't be him.
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No. I don't know. I mean, the show's gonna go awfully quiet if we have to sit here and go.
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Do you by the way, do you remember Peter Guise from Tracker Jack? He was embarrassing. He was like like the the drunk uncle that turns up at a wedding.
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I think that's the reason why you don't forget him, really. He he wore the he was sure. Wore those little round glasses and was always eager around, who was it? Crowther or something? David Crowther or something? Yes.
[01:05:05] Unknown:
Or was it Leslie Crowther?
[01:05:06] Unknown:
Leslie Crowther. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. And,
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he was the most irritating person you could ever wish to think of. Something about him.
[01:05:16] Unknown:
You didn't like him then? You didn't like him? No. No. No. I wouldn't eat him. I think he was sort of lots of lots of energy married up to insufficient talent, really, which is always a little bit awkward when someone's full of confidence and very loud and all over the place, and no one's really getting much entertainment value from it. A bit like this show at times, really.
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Hey. Feels fun, actually.
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There you go. Just did a bit of self assessment, and we worked it all out. So it's all done. Who is who is the singer then? Who is the Phantom singer? Well, I'm waiting. I don't know. We'll give people like, I'll give a count. They've got twenty five seconds. No one's written in. So I'm gonna repeat the question. We just played, it's a hap, hap, happy day. Someone's don't go to the search engines or pick up your AI out of your back pocket Uh-huh. Steady. This is whether it's in your brain. I mean, this is all quite pointless in a way because you can just find out anything. Who was it?
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Alice Gorgias has said the queen's legs will run on and on. Sorry.
[01:06:17] Unknown:
Well, while we're waiting for a response, one more little tidbit. Yes. Cool. One one one more little tidbit on the Donner party. There was actually a movie in 2009 that was made on the Donner party. Oh, wow. And how who would like to guess what the also known as title of that movie was? Another trivia question.
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Gobbler's Gulch. I don't know. No.
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Let's see if anybody in the rumble chat comes up with it. No. What was the a k a of the movie The Donor Party?
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Well, I'll put you all out of I'll put you all out of your misery. I know it's all you're on tenterhooks, but that was Arthur Askey.
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Alright. Really? Arthur Askey.
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And my I just wanna let you know, my dad my dad hated Arthur Askey.
[01:07:13] Unknown:
So did my dad. My dad couldn't stand him. He said he he he bloody detested him. My dad Yeah. My dad. That that's something in common there. Yeah. He he actually switched it off when he came on. He couldn't stand it. Too. He came.
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Yeah. He just did great. We might we might as well have been brothers, Eric. It's just amazing. Yeah. Every he came on to Parkinson a couple of times, and he every time he came on, he always used to sing that song, Busy Little playmates. Hello, playmates. He did that busy little bee and go, I'm a busy little bee. And my dad used to go, bloody busy little bee. I just turned it off. Play. It's so funny. I hate that bloke. He's not funny. And he he wasn't he wasn't really. But, anyway, he made us happy momentarily until we found out who he was. Yes. And now the song's rubbish, everybody. So we hope you didn't enjoy it. That's right.
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And and Mark Anthony's come up with the goods. Thanks mate he always comes up with a fantastic art it was comes up the goods said the song that I was talking about by market Marty Wilde is Abba Gavenny.
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It's a happy song is it?
[01:08:17] Unknown:
Yeah. It's about Abergavenny. Yes. Alright. Okay. We're going to Abergavenny, and it's it's I mean, what a weird name of a place, Abergavenny.
[01:08:27] Unknown:
Well, Welsh names are very distinctively Welsh, aren't they? Have I got any? That's right. They are. They're very Apparently, Welsh is, similar to Hebrew, isn't it? To Hebrew or something? They can read Hebrew. They can read Paleo Hebrew Yes. And they can read hieroglyphs. I I mean, I when I I don't mean all the Welsh people today, but those that are familiar with the actual Welsh tongue. I mean, it probably must be pockets now, a bit like, when the Cornish language finally disappeared. But, maybe not because there has been I mean, I remember in the seventies, there was a big thing on the BBC. Don't they have what is it? Clyde Cymru or Cymru or whatever it is. Yeah. But there's actually a Welsh language, station, which I think is great, by the way. I'm not you know, so if you're Welsh, you know, I've got Welsh blood. My grandma was Welsh. She was an Edwards.
Or she she her mother was or something. So I'm about a sixteenth Welsh or something like that. Well, part Welsh at all. Yeah. It's probably why I like quite like singing. La la la la la. And there was actually some talk on the chat about a week back about male Welsh voice choirs, and they are fantastic. They're absolutely brilliant. You know?
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That's why when I was a kid, I used to get the Welshies.
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What does that mean then?
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Diarrhea.
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It's a good job we're in the it's a good job we're in the pub and not broadcasting this. That's what I can say. Holy moly.
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Alright. Well, I'm I'm gonna put people out of their misery too. The the Okay. Alternate title of the movie, The Donner Party, was simply famished.
[01:10:17] Unknown:
Oh. Famished. Oh, that's a bit much, isn't it? That's a bit much. Good heavens.
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A Woody Pigeon is a there's a Welsh town called a Biggawilly. And meet admittedly, it isn't written like that. A Biggawilly. But, what about that film that was made about whales in Hollywood called was it Al something Al Deep? Oh, what was it? What was it called now? Al Something in our valley. I agreed it. Our green is our valley. That's it. It's my valley. Mhmm. And, it was Americans trying to put on Welsh accents. And, Roddy MacDowell, mate, was that was the first film he did. He's about 13. And it
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Oh, I hate that guy.
[01:11:02] Unknown:
Yeah. He was in golf. He was in, monkey films, wasn't he? Planet of the Apes.
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Yes. Planet of the Apes. In dog films, he was with Lassie, wasn't he? That was the crack, would he? He he was with in all those Lassie films. Yeah. I never I never liked the Lassie films. They just they were even as a young boy, prone to sentimentality, even I noticed that there was so much of it, I couldn't breathe. It was just a little bit too much.
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Yeah. And do you know there's about 27 lasses? Mhmm. There's 27 lasses, and there were females, and it's supposed to be a male. So that's the first trans
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dog that I shared on film. No. No. Actually, they were Lassie was supposed to be female, but most of the dogs were male.
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Oh, but around all the way around. That's backwards. Yeah. And did you know that that breed of dog is the most damaged out of all the out of all the dogs?
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Why is it? That's most stupid. A collie? It's a A collie dog?
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Collies are not very bright.
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They're about six or two short planks. I mean, are they they're not named after cauliflowers, are they? It's spelled c o l l I e. I thought it was a collier dog or something. Yes. But then, what I'm talking about, I don't know anything about dogs really, except they got four legs and they and bark a bit. That's about it. Yeah. So they're they're herding.
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They're herding dogs. So really, all they need to know is how to get a sheep motivated to go where they wanted to go. Yeah. They usually do that by nipping them in the back of the leg. But, I had a Shetland sheepdog and a Siberian husky at the same time. Right. And, the Shetland sheepdog, he was a pretty smart boy. He was well trained, and he was cute, and he was small. He was too small to be a show dog even though he was show quality. But it was the the Siberian husky that actually knew how to get in trouble. We went we went to the home improvement store. We were gone, like, fifteen minutes when we came back.
Bandit, and, yes, that was the dog's real name, Bandit, had found the two pounds of rib eye steaks on the kitchen counter, and they were gone. They were gone. We weren't even able to find a wrapper.
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And I think sheep dogs we were gone like Sheep dogs are amazing. I mean, it's the only dog I'd really want, and I'm absolutely the least fit person on the world in the world to have it because it's got to be put to work. There's a fantastic clip. It must have gone viral. It's up in the Yorkshire Dales, of course. Muddy sort of track going off into a field. This guy these dogs just sat there looking at him. He goes, so it's just like one word, like go. Right? You just see this dog pelt off into the distance. Camera's just sat there. It disappears just slightly over the brow of this hill. You wait in about twenty thirty seconds. Suddenly, there's about 100 sheep. This one dog, right, is basically moving a 100 sheep. They all come down. It's just so impressive.
It's just and they it's the bond that they have with the guy and they love to work and you love to see him work and it's just fabulous. It's absolutely meant they're very very bright. I remember I was up at my brother's about fifteen years or so ago for a party. There was a guy that this is up in Yorkshire, I was back up there. There was a guy that was just taught and he said, oh yeah, he said I had one. He said, it was just too smart. I said, what do you mean? He said, well, we used to we thought it was going out at night and so, and just going off and doing its own stuff. He said, so I put a lock on the gate and all this sort like a latch key lock, not a a lock, not one that you put a key in but, what do you call it? A latch gate, you know?
Yeah. He said, so I I I got we got up one night. It's about 04:00 in the morning. It's like it's summer. Dawn's gone dog. He said, the dog crept out, goes up to the gate, gets up there, opens the door, comes back and shuts it. So they didn't even know it had gone. And then one day, it it actually went and caught a train. It went and caught a train. His dog got on a train and and they found it. They got a phone call because he had a tag a collar around it. They said, yeah. We your dog's obvious he's just got off a train in Skipton or somewhere. He'd gone about 15 miles on the train. That's a dog that knew how to get around a bit. It's very impressive, isn't it? It's very impressive. That's very Too delightful. Yeah. But it is. Street dog trials and never say which dog was guilty, do they? Because you said it on, on television, you know? Yeah. That's That's rough justice, isn't it?
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Yeah. Oh, dear. You started it. Kingston Whitler said, have you noticed how on TV and radio I don't know. I don't have a TV. They celebrate Welsh, Scottish, and Irish music. Yep. Folk music, but never English. English folk music is fantastic, and as an Englishman, the instruments resonate. There's a natural vibration to it that warms the heart. You know you are home. Yes. I agree with you. Well, it's Catherine Tickle, isn't it? She plays, like bagpipes, but they shove underarm. You've seen those bagpipe things? They're very weird.
Very different to the Scottish ones, the Northumbrian pipes. That's Catherine Tickle. Who else is there? But, no. You don't hear English folk music very much. Don't hear at all.
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There's some here. So that was from Playford. Yeah. You remember my anecdote about dancing a few years ago?
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Yes.
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That's what they were playing all night. Really? That stuff. That's Playford. Yeah. Who wrote compiled all this stuff in the sixteen hundreds. Actually, the guy that I met, Coleman, not that he'll be catching this, but if he is, hi, Coleman. He just emailed me the other day. I we've not I've just been busy. I think his first email I've had from him two years. Get your finger out, mate. No. I hadn't written to him either, but, he's, he plays that stuff. He's from Chicago of Irish descent, and, he plays it. And it's interesting. Just to back you up, Kingston Whitler, he he sent me all these videos of going around The States playing all this old this type of folk music with these organized dances. They're really Beautiful. Very Yeah. They're really beautiful. It's really good and he said to me when we were as I got he said, look I play all of the stuff. I play the Irish and all this stuff. He said, but the best to me is the English stuff. I said, really?
And of course it was embarrassing because I'd not really listened to it. I couldn't have named I couldn't have said the word Playford to him because I didn't three or four years ago when we met. And she's probably a bit longer than that. And, but it's an amazing story about all that stuff and there really is something yeah It's difficult to start off with to the modern ear because you're used to a din right and being overpowered by stuff and much more dramatic and heavy sort of sound and all that. So it's very light and almost thin to the modern ear. But the melodies that are in it and the structures are fantastic and they're very dignified and you can begin to sort of smell civilization in the in the whole thing. So that's what we're gonna have to do at the Fockham Hall Festival.
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I 100% agree with you there because I am sick of well I was in my car the other day and so car dropped next to me and all I could do was what is it And this chap, it's not music. It's just a loud drumming beat like savages do, you know.
[01:18:53] Unknown:
Have you have you found that? You know, do you get that Yeah. I know exactly. Where you are. Is it yes. Yeah. I just thought your comment earlier, Eric, was such I'd not really thought of it that way, that there's very little happy music made. Everything's dramatic. Everything is that something really intense is about to happen. We're just being so we think it is. Music's incredibly powerful. I mean, it's off the charts powerful as music. It really is. It is. No. Couple of little comments here though, just backing up. Kingston Whitland went on to say about the Playford stuff. He says, there's a natural vibration to it that warms the heart. You know you're at home. Yep. I do. I know exactly what you mean. I agree. Absolutely right. And, and you know what this means, Eric? Is that if we do have dancing at the Fockham this Fockham Hole Festival Yes.
You're gonna have to dance, which of course is gonna make your father turn in his grave. Oh, no. Right? Sorry about that. And we're gonna have to get a darn we're gonna have to get a dance master, one of the guys that knows all the steps. They're called callers, I think. Who's gonna have to boss us all around and tell us what to do. That's gonna be that'd be hilarious, actually. That'd be such a good fun, wouldn't it? But you but you think they'll say,
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do you think the spirit of my father will come down and say, excuse me, is is he queer? No. I don't think he is. He might be queer. I'm not too sure. Excuse me. Are you queer? No. No. No. He's just trying to dance. No. No. He's quite drunk.
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Right now. Music. Yes. He's dancing.
[01:20:16] Unknown:
Oh. Is he a queer? He dances. He's quite drunk. He's not queer. He's just very few.
[01:20:25] Unknown:
I'd have to be drunk to dance. By the way, that one too many. Doug Aitley said Mark Aitley said it. He said, I bought my wife one of those sheepdog bras for her birthday. It's really good. It rounds them up and points them in the right direction.
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Oh gosh. This is a really good pub. I'm coming back to this one. This is a good pub.
[01:20:53] Unknown:
Oh, good one. No. It but really, there is something about, what makes me laugh is a violins singing the white cliff. Was it the blue be blue birds over the White Cliffs Of Dover? There's no blue birds over over over the White Cliffs Of Dover because that record that song was actually written by an American that never been to Dover in his life.
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You think they'd rearrange the lyrics, wouldn't you? Yeah. There were fat birds over I don't I don't know what they could have called it really. Yeah. I'm going near there, actually. Of time.
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Mhmm. It's the beginning of time. Music has been to connect to Earth, to connect to spirit, to connect to God, and to actually resonate with the resonant frequency of the organs. Music is supposed to be an uplifting, a healing, and healthy thing to expose yourself to. And what they did in 1940 was they changed from a four thirty two to a four forty, and then they started working on the lyrics. And, oh my god, then came ramp, you know, where they're trying to convince us that talking about, bitches and blowing a hole in the hose and all that shit is music? No. I don't think so. Nope. It's just negative. It's it's sub it's subliminal programming. It's subconscious deterioration of your very, very soul, and that's what we're exposing ourselves to. I agree with you. Do it.
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But Yeah. Alex Golgis has said, and I agree here. Well, she said, and I think we're getting throat close to this. Sorry to be a pain chaps, but may we please have a few solutions to our current situation? I feel like a sitting duck. Cheers. Well, one of the solutions, I believe, is to try and, shouldn't say this, but we have a better, shall we say, he who wins the airwaves has won. And our enemy controls the airwaves we don't I think we should control the airwaves and then we can pump out lovely English music like that and we can that is the the way forward is getting control. It's like a game of chess. We've gotta get to the center of that board. I'm a master at center of the board, and we're not. And
[01:23:19] Unknown:
and never forget that all politics is local. Get with your friends. Get with your neighbors. Local communities. Bring yourselves together with such a tight bond that they cannot break you apart because that is what they are trying to do. They are trying to separate people because as herd animals, humans can accomplish great things. Unless they're alone in the woods, they are fodder for the foxes.
[01:23:49] Unknown:
Yours, Tom. Together with your neighbors. Yeah. Well, if we look at everything since 1945, music being a main strand, it's been to bring that about. I mean we we come back to this topic, repeatedly and we will continue to do so because it's important. The family is the pinnacle of civilization. I'm just gonna say that because it is. And therefore, the the higher the quality of families and more people that are involved in high quality families either as parents and or as children the better for for for us all. And you're right about the airwaves and about writing and about festivals. It's simply I think to a great degree we have to find a way to reassert our culture. I'm so glad that we talked about the English funk music actually because I've got about four hours of Playford music which which I need to break up into the tracks and we can start to run them on soapbox in between.
That's why we run the old stuff. There's a reason for it. Okay? I know that everybody wants the modern stuff or at least I'm told that, but there's no point even going there. I mean it's just it's not good. I've even heard Well I was listening to Geoff Rents earlier today. They were talking about the reception that people are giving to AI music and they're all finding it lovely because it's scientifically designed now. It's dead really. It's a dead thing, but it's scientifically designed to sort of work on certain emotion sets and key sets within you and they know what they're doing. It's like the whole world's gonna become an algorithm and it's frankly not much fun. That's why I think we talk about tactile things here like candles and old music, and clothes, things that connect you into a much healthier way of living.
[01:25:30] Unknown:
I agree I agree with you, and I I think that, when we I think we reached our peak in music around about nineteen seventies when we had what was called progressive rock. Now what that was I mean, when you look at look at that record, Marrakesh Express, how clever that is, how they put that together. That was a very clever and, do you remember a group called Focus? Do you remember that? Where they got classical music and put it to a
[01:26:00] Unknown:
That's the one?
[01:26:02] Unknown:
Yes. That's it. Jan Jan Ackerman, who could really make a really knew how to play the old guitar, those people, they've reached their peak. And then now what we got, rubbish. I was gonna say it's crap, but that'd been rude.
[01:26:16] Unknown:
Well, it's just it's it's just a business like the movie business is more of a business. That's why you just get all these sequels and all the films are the same and all the plots are shallow and people in my view, people read things into modern films that are simply not there. It's tripe piffle. Most of it is completely rubbish. But I want to just go back to what you said Paul about rap music, which of course is it betrays the heritage of Afro American music if that's what I'm supposed to call it. I'm not trying upset anybody. I'm just, you know, what I'm talking about. It really does, because there were a lots of really really good stuff like Louis Jordan and his timpani five or whatever it was called, creating jump music and all sorts of things. But if you look at it, it's a movement towards a more animalization of the dancing process. This was by design as well. It took a long time to lead into it. I'm not blaming it, I'm just pointing it out. But the other a point came up who was I listening to the other day?
Dellingpole. James Dellingpole was interviewing somebody about something. This is only a small part of the show. It wasn't about this. It was an observation that heavy metal was to white kids what rap music has been to black, and I completely agree with that. I went through a period of I could never ever listen to that stuff. I liked heavy rock where there was a degree of instrumentalization. I'm 14, 15, 16, 17, 18 that kind of age. I thought much of it was fantastic. It was pretty it was the soundtrack to my youth whether I liked it or not and I didn't I liked it but I didn't like much of it. The stuff I liked I really liked. Everybody said listen to this crap crap crap crap. I hated Black Sabbath just to let you know. Sorry if you're an Ozzy Osbourne fan. I couldn't stand all that stuff. It's turgid. It's a downer.
It is dark. Their name's dark. I thought, what are you doing? Is it all to be cool or something? And everybody started dressing in black. And I'm going, nah. I don't want anything to do with this. It's not exhilarating. And that's what heavy metal music is to me. It is not exhilarating. It's not heavy at all. It's just just loud. Rubbish. Well, it's just you know, it's just guys with guitars go, look at the size of my amplifier. I'm playing power chords for four hours going, yeah alright mate, I'll come back. Now for example, although we don't want to get a if I take Pink Floyd and you look at the whole array, that's a different kettle of fish. It's a totally different kettle of fish. It's like orchestral music using modern instruments.
It's it's a much richer experience. So I you know you have to finesse with these sorts of things and and musicians are a result of the age that they live in and the technologies of musical instruments that they live in. But what we've seen I think just like with smartphones and everything is the more advanced the technology's got the less advanced the more retarded the music has become. It's actually because everybody thinks they can be a musician, you know, everybody thinks they're equal to everybody else. You're not. I don't even want it. The idea of a handful of brilliant musicians being known is a is how it should be, isn't it? They're sort of like they're held up by everybody else. You go every now and again exceptional talents turn up and it's worth everybody to recognize it and appreciate it when it turns up not to be sort of have this guff pumped into your head twenty four seven. I mean, I couldn't listen to radio in the seventies and the eighties for music. I mean, I never listened to it. It was just exhausting. I I couldn't understand how a DJ. I can't I can't to this day. Consider and just play record after record after record for three hours. Again, driving you and do it five days a week. Doesn't it drive you mad? I mean I know.
You know, music was like a tree. Don't you think music was a tree at work? I go Yes. I'd come home, I spent a lot of money on a hi fi when I was about 18. I mean, it cost me a lot. It cost me all my wage packet. Right? I've still got the amp to this day. Right? It cost me £220 in 1970. Is that right? £220 was an enormous amount of money. I was only earning I'd say it. A week. Right? It was like four months wages. And, I've still got it and it's lasted. It's absolutely brilliant and I put things on and all my mates went into this stuff and it I guess it all depends what, you know, that's what we did. That's what we did back then, but we thought it was the coolest thing going and it was in a way. It's fantastic. Drinking coffee, playing risk, listening to records, shouting at one another, playing pylon.
Oh, those are the days. What an old fart I am. But it was great. Do you remember it Really good. Yeah. But you remember Isso Tomita?
[01:30:34] Unknown:
Isso Tomita was a Japanese bloke who used electronics to do Debussy and classics. And when and when he actually performed on stage, he had his back to the audience. He had all these electronic bits all round and all these all high-tech stuff. Unfortunately, he's dead now, but he, he did one. What is it now? His first album was absolutely mind blowing. He did Debussy, and it was absolutely incredible. Right. And, yeah. So if you can look him up, anybody wants to look him up on the Internet, the engulfed cathedral by Iso Tomita.
Genius. It really is. It it it is a marvelous piece that he did, and he's Japanese. And,
[01:31:18] Unknown:
yeah, it's just so It's it's a difficult topic to talk about because music is it runs deep with all of us, doesn't it? I think it does because there's so much emotional attachment that you might have to a piece of music that might not even be that good, but you heard it at just the right time, you know, when that girl came through the door or you were at that disco that night trying desperately not to dance or whatever you were doing. There are certain tracks that have a very strong, evocative sort of draw on your memory, about all these things.
But, I mean I don't know whether we're gonna win the hearts and minds of our people back by playing Playford music from the sixteen hundreds. Probably not. It's too big a leap in the ear of the day. It's, you know, it's looking at how we arrange all these sorts of things to actually create a cultural diet, as it were, of this different stuff. And I think that there there is definitely a difference. I mean there's a in terms of you only have to go back a few years, like even to the eighties, and there's a sense of buoyancy, not necessarily about the music, but just in life, and a much simpler thing. And is it the case that the smartphone has got now an awful lot to answer for? Because I think it is literally stupefying people. They're becoming stupefied because of the dopamine hit is so high. Everything else is boring. They don't do anything much. Or maybe I'm wrong. Maybe people are doing loads loads more because they're able to organize their life. I don't know what you think. But
[01:32:38] Unknown:
I I don't know about that, but you listen to, for instance, for example, Genesis. They brought out an album. What was it now? Was it selling England by the pound? I think that's the right one. Fantastic. You listen to it. It's mind blowing. And, and you think, wow. Wow. I mean, that is a modern English music. That's modern English. And that all went in the nineteen eighties. It it it it breached a peak in late seventies, and just sort of died in the eighties. What happened in the eighties? Something went wrong with our music, and it just lost. There is some good eighties music, but modern now, there's nothing. Absolutely nothing I can think of. Small hat
[01:33:22] Unknown:
Yes. Small hat wearers took over the music industry. Yes. Yes. That's what happened in the seventies and the eighties. Yes. Music was actually bastardized.
[01:33:34] Unknown:
Yes. Well, go ahead. Plain and simple. Yeah. What do you think of Genesis?
[01:33:38] Unknown:
On board with you. Do do you remember? Genesis. Abs Phil Collins. Yeah. I'd be just, you know, Genesis, awesome. Phil Collins, completely off the hook, extremely talented guy. Extremely talented guy. And that was back when music was actually I mean, there's the difference between the the artists today that you have to use auto tune because without it, they couldn't sing their way out of a bag. And the the bands of the sixties, the seventies, and the eighties, they actually had real talent. They had trained voices. They were good.
And the instruments that they played, they were amazing musicians, plain and simple. And what we are exposed to today is nothing but a bastardized automated, auto tuned piece of crap that before I have even heard stories that before an album is released, they put all of the albums in a room, and then black witches go in there, and they they make can incantations over the albums before they're distributed.
[01:34:50] Unknown:
It wouldn't actually curse the music. It wouldn't surprise me. No one surprised me at all. But go back to Fabio, people can think of someone.
[01:34:59] Unknown:
Can you think of someone whose music you don't like but that you know is good?
[01:35:07] Unknown:
Yeah. Slim Whitman.
[01:35:11] Unknown:
Now you're making me think about Mars Attacks.
[01:35:15] Unknown:
Oh, my no. My ma loves Slim Whitman. She was, we would actually make a pilgrimage every time Slim Whitman was at a place called, Trollhagen. It was a ski area in Wisconsin. We lived in Minnesota. We would actually travel from Minnesota to Wisconsin every time Slim Whitman was appearing at Trollhagen. And Slim Whitman, I mean, he's a good old southern boy, and and he called it ski hogan. He's just funny guy. But my ma absolutely loved him. My ma knew personally Slim Whitman, knew Tammy Wynette, knew Loretta Lynn. She she was on first name basis with all of them. Mhmm. And that that was that was when real music occurred.
[01:36:06] Unknown:
Well And when real music could be heard. I can't stay in Alan Bennett. And when I first started work, you could buy loads of cheap records. See, I I worked in part of London. We get cheap records. And the fellow there, that I worked with, his parents loved, Alan Bennett. But every LP cover had Alan Alan Bennett perspiring. And it was, you know, Alan Bennett perspires in L Los Angeles. Alan Bennett more perspiration in California. And everybody in his hand over the microphone stand we're you know everyone's the same I've been perspiring heavily what was it do people go there to see perspire or something I mean because I couldn't stand his foot breaking a sweat in Belize
[01:36:50] Unknown:
I thought Alan Bennett was the Yorkshire playwright. Bennett. Gold Bennett was the Not Gordon Bennett. You're thinking of someone else. I don't know who you're thinking of. Are you thinking of that? He's an American crooner like in the Frank Sinatra world. Yeah. He died recently. It's not Alan Bennett. That's right. But that's very funny. Alan
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Bennett.
[01:37:13] Unknown:
Oh, yeah. I'll get back to that. No. It's funny. I don't know. It. Yeah. No. No. That's cool. The musician the musician I was thinking of that I don't that I don't like, but oh, I think he's good is Elvis Costello. Yes. Mhmm. And and I say that because I was never really much into lyrics when I was young. But later on, I looked at this and somebody that I knew who was into all the lyrical side said he's one of the best lyric writers ever. I went and read and they're extremely how can I put it? Dense in terms of compressing lots of ideas into very few lines. There's a lot going on with them. My problem with Elvis Costello is I just felt that his voice couldn't carry emotion, and so it left me slightly cold. I know he started off as a punky stuff and some of that stuff, Pump It Up is pretty cool if you're into all that kind of stuff from that period.
And that was the sort of thing we listened to in the common room in the in the 1977 or whatever. But I was never really into punk rock either. But Elvis Costello developed into something much more talented than that, which was mind you, his dad was a big band leader, I think, wasn't he? He used to run a big band in the forties and fifties. So he had it in yeah.
[01:38:22] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. I should Alan Bennett. Hang on Tony
[01:38:31] Unknown:
Bennett is gonna stick now this is so funny Alice gorgeous that Tony Bennett's mundane bits mundane hits because that's how he talks
[01:38:42] Unknown:
That's Tony Bennett when he Very dry. Perspiring in Los Angeles. You know, heavily sweating.
[01:38:50] Unknown:
Alan Bennett.
[01:38:54] Unknown:
He should change his name by depo. Yeah. Because I I can never understand that record. Was it I lost my because, you can imagine we rearrange the words to I lost my heart in San Francisco to no. I won't say. But rather a flatulent version. But you used to sing it as well, didn't you?
[01:39:17] Unknown:
Probably. Yes. But this is a this is a family show even though we're not gonna play it. Show so I go there. Absolutely. Just to, Alice, I was just wondering, by the way, if you have any solutions, if they're brief enough for you to write them down, or anything that you think we ought to talk about, just throw it in there. That goes for everybody, by the way. If you think the things that we ought to jump out and look at I I wanna just jump over now to, banking. Maybe I should have it a special time in the show. Oh, it's half past the hour. It's time for ten minutes of banking, Bilge. I'm slowly getting a little bit more active on X and, somebody put a post I just wanted to read you a couple of things. I actually ended up responding to it. So I suppose it's bigging me up or something but it's not. I just want to just share it really. Somebody put a post up. It's a very funny clip. You probably remember it, Paul. It's of, Johnny Carson, laughing his socks off whilst holding a little baby baby orangutan in his hands. I don't know if you ever remember the clip because this orangutan is very sweet, but he's looking at him really fixedly and he he gets slightly hysterical. Uh-huh. But the headline is banks watching you pay interest on the money they lent you after they printed it out of thin air. Right? It's quite witty actually. I quite liked it. But the first comment Why?
Is very useful, from somebody called Garrett Courtney, who's probably not hearing this, but I like this comment simply because it it opened things up. He said, that's not exactly how how that works. This is simplified but your bank balance is the money the bank owes you. You gave them that money and they loan it to other people. You're paying interest on other people's money that they loan to you, not money that they just made up. Okay? Now as regular listeners here will know, although Garrett's well meaning, he it's completely wrong what he's written. That's not how it works. So my little response was very simple. I said, when you borrow $10,000, the bank creates it out of thin air.
You pay back $10,000 plus interest. Interest is usury, the great bloodsucker. And why The US is $33,000,000,000,000 in debt. Banking is a criminal enterprise. If your business did what a bank did, you would be imprisoned and that's accurate apart from one fact because I heard the news this morning and Paul, I'm glad to inform you that The US debt is now not 33,000,000,000,000 but $37,000,000,000,000. How about that? So between me, right, it went up 4,000,000,000,000 this afternoon. That is meaningless.
[01:41:55] Unknown:
I know. I know. I know. No. The the money is not made out of thin air. The money is made, by securitizing by securitizing bonds and the birth records of the people. The money that gets made out of thin air is the interest that is charged on that money. You know, like, when you buy something, you buy a $10,000 car. You have a promissory note for $10,000 plus what you expect to pay in interest. Well, the economy is actually funded by $10,000 because there's $10,000 worth of bonds created to match that. But the interest that you pay on that note over the life of it, that is money that is made out of thin air. That, it goes immediately to the national debt.
[01:42:45] Unknown:
It does It does. I mean, I'm sure there are probably there are probably even more layers of, smoke and mirrors in the whole process. I think I mentioned a few weeks ago. I've got to look this up because, we've had this, fact running around. It is a fact that all the countries of the world are in debt. So the logical question is who are they all in debt to? They can't be one another if they're all in debt. Of course, the usual answer rightly up to a point is the central bank cartel. Okay. But but the next step in that, which I have to explore a bit more, is that that's not strictly true because I think it's to do with before they can generate the money in this $10,000 example, before they can do that, the thing that releases it is your signature.
In other words, Right. It would seem to me that you create the money unbeknownst to yourself because you're in a state of not knowingness when you're in there thinking that the banks doing it, and the bank are quite happy to let you do it. But what they're basically stepping in, and not allowing that thought to even occur in your head and creating the impression that they've done it. But they can't do it without your signature, which is part of this trust arrangement or you being worth your weight in coal gold or your certificate of lading or whatever you want to call it when you were born through the birth certificate and then they own you. All of this kind of stuff. It's it's literally always a case of the servants are deceiving the true master.
I don't like using the word master, but you get this all the time. All all all the time.
[01:44:24] Unknown:
But do you know what's truly despicable? They would like us to believe, among others Yeah. They would like us to believe that we owe the national debt. No. We don't. The national debt is a portion of that debt that is actually owed to us, the ones that actually created the money in the first place.
[01:44:48] Unknown:
Yes. It's just a pity pool that there's no owed to us. I know. It's just a pity pool that there's no annual meeting where we get our Divvy back. That's never happened, has it?
[01:44:59] Unknown:
No. Right? Any other entity would be getting dividends.
[01:45:02] Unknown:
Yeah. They would. It's And I I mean, irrespective of whatever the full mechanics are, and no doubt they're coming up with more sort of multi stage confusion points to charge service fees as they talk you through this, that, and the other nonsense. The bottom line is that if a normal businessman did what a bank did, you'd be imprisoned for it.
[01:45:22] Unknown:
It's as simple as that. And lock them. And then not them up, throw it away Why are they not in prison? Throw them in a hole throw them in a hole so deep you gotta pump sunshine into them. That's that's where the people would be. Yep. That's I feel this well, I'm glad we don't talk about banking much.
[01:45:43] Unknown:
Well, I like to, you know, I like to bounce back to it. By the way, of course, it's all completely intertwined with the lure. And, after, those of you tuned a couple of weeks ago know that, Hannah was on and, I said last week that I was due to go to her meeting on Thursday. Now if you I I appear with Eric quite regularly now on a Monday evening on Fockham Hall radio. So if you caught it, I'm gonna say this again, but we were due to go to a meeting that Hannah was holding in London on Monday, just past four days ago. In the end, I didn't go, and in the end that was the right thing to do because it didn't take place, because Hannah didn't speak for all sorts of reasons which are slightly sort of soap opera y, and I don't want to go into them all. Then nothing too unpleasant, but there was no real reason for her to be there. And, in terms of logistics, I've decided I'm never really ever going to entertain the idea of going to anybody's meeting in London in Hackney on a Monday evening ever again because looking at it, it really was a nightmare.
And, Eric suitably put me off as he was going through it, and I think, aunt Sally was due to go as well because I was looking forward to meeting you guys. But we're gonna have to do it at the Fockham Festival or the Fockham Festival planning committee at some cafe in Kneesden or wherever we end up meeting. And, so it all turned out for the best. However, over the weekend, she put me in touch with a chap called I'll just call him Stuart for now, and I may get him on the show. He's an amazing guy. I I felt I've spoken to him, and, you see, his his knowledge is so detailed on court procedure and the true understanding of the words.
I spoke to him for two hours on Saturday, and my head hurt. I said, I've got to stop.
[01:47:30] Unknown:
I said, I can't We have to have a man's show. I can't I can't bring it in fast enough,
[01:47:36] Unknown:
and I wanted to mention this to you because something I think good is gonna come out of this. One of the things that happened towards the end of the conversation with him is we got around to talking about a point that we mentioned here. And this Alice, a gorgeous, sort of comes around to looking at solutions about communications approaches. I think I've mentioned here is the most tedious stuff, isn't it? On my seaside, on my shoreline walks, I'm thinking about communications packages, which is awfully pathetic, really. But seriously, I think it's important.
We're doing a three hour pub meeting here tonight. This is why it's moving around a bit. There's nothing really planned. You can probably tell. Spontaneity is the key word. That's what we want. We're gonna tap into sensible things. We're gonna goof off for fifteen, twenty minutes as well. That's fine. It's a bit like a pub chat. We'll keep it like this until people complain or nobody turns up and says we've had enough. I mean, you know, everything has its day. However, if if I look back at if you consider how most people learn about these, hidden blocks of information, it's through reading books.
Generally, it's your best bet, and you have to read quite a few to inter relate them and check things. And you go, ah. And slowly but surely, you begin to see a pattern. And, of course, the Internet has aided us immeasurably in that process. In fact, most of us got drawn into this because suddenly, there were really quirky, odd, and puzzling books being announced in certain places. Oh, I must have a look at that. What's that all about? And it draws people in which has been absolutely fantastic. The sort of, you know, everything that was hidden being will be revealed type process as mentioned in scripture and I think this is definitely a key part of it. But most people do not sit down and read long books. Now, if I've just offended you write in and say Paul, we all read long books. I might be misreading it wrong, but I don't think they do. Right? I mean, I don't think people are gonna read Stephen Zarlanger's The Lost Science of Money at 900 pages or whatever it is. They're not gonna do that and when I say most people, I mean just average very busy pressurized working people and I'm not trying to be patronizing because those people are people that, I value a great deal.
It's this process of standing together. Anyway, whilst I was talking to Stuart, this sort of came up towards the end and we've mentioned it here, haven't we, that you go to school and they don't teach you anything at all about the true operations of law. They certainly don't tell you what your status in law is. They wouldn't even know how to begin that as a class and they don't teach you anything about central banking, how credit works, and how you are basically gonna be a plaything of the banking cartel for the rest of your life. They're not they don't tell you any of that and just standing back from this alone and looking at that you go that it's not just bizarre. It's obviously in a way criminal to suggest that when people leave school at the age of 18, they know much of any real use. They know how to be an obedient slave or employee in this system. I don't care how many degrees you've got. The problem with nearly everybody's got degrees they don't know this stuff. This is like this is the foundational stuff of your life. You're gonna spend more time fretting over bills and how to meet them particularly now as they're pumping them through the roof. I just got my water bills through the other day. £350.
It's a joke. I'm going, oh yeah, I've got lights lighting around somewhere. £350 for three months water. I mean, it's just nuts. That's like $450, Paul, just to let you
[01:50:54] Unknown:
know, for water. It's just for water. Right?
[01:50:58] Unknown:
So For water? Yeah. Just for water. Yeah. And I don't even drink that bloody water. I use a water distiller and all this kind of stuff. Everything's nuts. Rain
[01:51:06] Unknown:
rainwater collection. Rainwater collection. Absolutely.
[01:51:10] Unknown:
Yeah. So I mean, and in talking to Stuart, towards the end of our conversation, so we've got a because we're going through so many words and I'm going, okay. I'm gonna have to do a copy briefing. This is what I said to myself. So I used to be a copywriter. I could sit down with a client, you go right okay I've got a pencil and pad, I'm gonna sit here for an hour, I'm gonna pick your brains and I'd have a whole series of questions to go through to find out what they were doing so that I could actually write something that made sense to him. So he'd go, yeah yeah that's what our customers need to know. Fantastic, because you know you've got to get everything out of their head. This is the ultimate test I think with this with this law stuff. It really is because the words are so there's just a blizzard of them.
Anyway, towards the end of the call, I guess my point, I mentioned this thing about I said what we really need to be doing, we need to be writing very brief, crisp, clear, joyous, I mean this, happy documents. It's a hap hap happy document, right? That everybody can read quick and get it. They can grok the meat of it fast and then there needs to be a second stage and even a third for those that really and there will be a small percentage that will want to tunnel into it to the nth degree. Fantastic. It might not be your bag of tricks but you should be really glad that it's going to be somebody's amongst our tribe because it will be. We've always produced that. So this is really good and I said this to him about 16 year olds. He said, if you gave me some 16 year olds in two weeks, he said, I could have them crystal clear and they would know exactly what to do every single time in a court. I said, you've just outlined the copy brief. That's exactly what we have to do. We have to put material together for 16 year olds. Whatever you might think a 16 year old is. I suppose it's a boy, a young man, and a young woman right now looking at their phone. Oh, they can vote now apparently through their phone probably instantaneously for people that don't know anything about anything but never mind. Anyway, I wrote down a list of words. This is gonna be a bit tedious but I just wanted to this is not even anywhere near a complete list. This just came out of my conversation with Stuart the other day for which I thanked him and thank you now Stuart if you're hearing this. Let me just run through them and see how many you know. You might think you know them because I think I sort of know them but I need them absolutely crystal clear in my head. So there's jurisdiction. We're not going to try and answer any of these, right? I just want to run through the list. There's jurisdiction, there's jurisprudence, trusts, trustee, beneficiary, true primary executor, secured party creditor, the crown, a crown agent, living man, living woman, legal person, natural person, legalese, legal entities, private, public, commerce, nature, standing, court, barrister, assumption, presumption and statutes. That's just for starters.
So I think we need a little book. I don't know what you think. Chairman Mauridi's little red book. I was thinking the the little yellow book of law because it's almost a tongue twister like red lorry yellow lorry. We need a little yellow book. I need it. I personally need it, because in going through these things, I think it's possible to teach this stuff and the way I personally have to I've got to teach myself it. It we should be able to talk about this stuff easy peasy like people could talk about football scores. It's a little bit more challenging than that, I accept. But we've got to get to that point because its strength is on keeping people in this condition of being in the dark about what they're really saying. And he also mentioned I'll just I'll stop in a second. One last thing to just mention from our conversation the other day. He was talking he said, if you ever get pulled over or a constable or a police officer or whatever the title is, and we need to know what that is, one One of the questions that I said, there's only really one question you have to say to them, is could you tell me what is the nature of your action?
Could you tell me what is the nature of your action? And the reason why that question, as I understand it at the moment, I might get this wrong, why that question is so powerful is that the true nature of their action, which they can't tell you, is that they are acting in commerce. This is basically a money shakedown. That's what it is and they can't admit that. So they won't admit it. And if they don't admit it or they don't respond to it properly, they put themselves in a position of dishonor. And one other little point he mentioned, which was really cool. You know we talked about foul language everywhere and the rise of it and of course we drop a few here every now and again because we're in the pub, right? But, one of the things that Stuart was suggesting was that there's been an intentional promotion of foul language through culture.
Because when you use it you go into a position of dishonor and apparently, I'm just using that word, it's apparent to my mind, I don't know for certain right now at this moment in time, is the first person of the two parties to go into dishonor loses. You don't go into dishonor. And it's just these little threads and thoughts. If this has bamboozled you a bit me just because it bamboozles me reading it out again, but but I was taking copious notes. He even sent me a seventeen minute voicemail message yesterday. It was brilliant, Stuart, by the way, if you're listening. It was absolutely brilliant and with all these ideas about how we actually put this material together to get it to project out to a much larger audience. I don't know if that's what you're thinking of Alice Gorges, but that's the sort of solutions that I'm or work line that I'm thinking about at this moment in time. So
[01:56:34] Unknown:
I cannot hear I cannot wait to hear that show. I just cannot wait to hear that show because every single one of those words is a hot button that I've been living and breathing for the last three years. Yep. Every single one of those words. People don't know the definitions of those words. And, I mean come on. We have enough confusion because they change the definitions of words, like, on a periodic basis. So Mhmm. When you think of the word of a word and what it means, it may mean that that day, but it may not mean that nine months later. And guess what? They're using the new definition.
You are still using the old one. When they're talking about residence, you think your residence is where you live. It's your address. That's where you lay your head down. No. When they ask you if you're a resident, they're asking you if you are part of their political status. They're asking you if you are agreeing to be, judged by residents under, like, say, the District Of Columbia, DC. It's not even part of The United States. I live in New York. When they say, are you a resident of the state of New York? Number one, state of New York is a political subdivision of Washington, DC. There's one. And number two, they're asking me if you're a resident. They're asking me if I'm a resident of DC and under the jurisdiction and some of federal law.
I'm not.
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I know. It's it's it's for you and me and everyone to look by the way, if you're out there listening to this and you think it's boring and tedious, let us know because it might I've sometimes what happens, I think there's a little line where people go over it, you get so into it, you can't see that that everybody else has fallen asleep. It's really difficult on radio to know that. What are they droning on about? That used to be my response. It probably there's still a great part of me doing that. However, we're coming to the end of the hour so I want to sign off from WBN. Thanks everybody on WBN three two four. We'll be back again same time next week. I'm also on with Ria Bow this Sunday in the final hour. That's two till three UK time whatever it is in US time, nine till ten on Sunday. We'll see you then. I'm gonna play a Monty Python song, which is all about happiness, which you will all know. So we're gonna play it, and, we'll be back after this on the other side. You wanna join us? Head on over to paulenglishlive.com where the show will carry on.
See you after this happy little song.
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Excellent.
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Some things in life are bad,
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they don't really make you mad. Other things just make you swear and curse. When you're chewing on life's whistle, that grumble, give a whistle, and this'll help things turn out for the best. Always look on the bright side of life. Always look on the light side of life. If life seems jolly rotten, there's something you've forgotten, and that's to laugh and smile and dance and sing. When you're feeling in the dumps, dab you silly chumps, just purse your lips and thistle, that's the thing. Ain't always look on the bright side of life.
Always Forget about your seat, give the audience a goon. Enjoy it, it's your last chance of air. So always look on the bright side of death. Life's a laugh, and death's a joke, it's true. You'll see it's all a show, keep them laughing as you go. Just remember that the last laugh is on you. And always look on the right side of life. Always look on the right side of life. Come on,
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Does that make you happy and tap your feet and want to look on the bright side of life? It does me. Well, what about that, Harry? Outstanding.
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Yeah. That is good, wouldn't it? Top notch. And that was the because they usually go beep. They'd be bleep a lot of that out, but they you got the one that isn't bleeped out, which is good. Well, we're in the pub. So We don't need that. We don't need any bleeping when we're in the pub. You know? No. We don't need bleeps. What what
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would have been bleeped in that song? I don't get it.
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Life is a load of shit.
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Life is a load of shit. Well Yeah. Oh, come on.
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Yeah. Oh, no. We can't say anything over here now. I haven't even looked into all the restrictions that are coming in, supposedly. And, of course, when we resist them, we promote them even further. We sort of all our energy goes into good, look at what they're doing, look at what they're doing. We're telling everybody what they're doing. We actually act as a sort of megaphone for the whole nonsense. It's very difficult. I still think, I still think the approach, I've mentioned this before with regards to these sorts of things, for example, with effectively thoughtcrime coming in, let's just go there.
What we need to do again, this is not one solution but it's an attitude more than anything else, although it would be great to see it manifest in actuality, is we need to get a goodly number of us. I would say, oh, a million should do it. Well, they had a million man march somewhere, didn't they? So why can't we do that? And what we have to do is organize to all go to the police stations around the country on the same day at the same time and arrest ourselves for thoughtcrime. So that we've been committing thoughtcrime. Been? Yeah. We don't know exactly what it is, but I'm reasonably sure I've been thinking things that you don't like and I think I need to be locked up and there's 50,000 more people at the front door, they're coming in to do the same thing. So you better get us all locked up. I want them locked up and they want me locked up because we're all committing thoughtcrime and we think you should probably lock yourself up as well, sir, mister desk sergeant, because you've probably been committing it as well. So let's all just incarcerate ourselves. That'd do it, wouldn't it?
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Yes. Yes. Or am I being shippered and saying I don't know if that would I don't know if that would be of benefit because at least in The United States, the the prisons are all privatized, and they actually securitize your incarceration. And they make money on the fact that you broke one of their statutes, their acts, or codes, and you got locked up for a victimless crime. That was that was, a code violation. They actually make money on the fact that you're sitting there, and they put you to work like in the private sector, and they pay you 50¢ on the dollar or 50¢ an hour to do something that another company would have to pay 15 to $18 an hour to have to actually hire people to do it. It's a win win for the prison system. Mhmm. It's a win win. They make a shutdown of money.
Yeah. Exactly. It is involuntary servitude under the third that's actually justified by the thirteenth amendment. And they do this all the while. They are actually feeding the prisoners meat where the actual boxes are stamped, not for human consumption. Hello? Why are you feeding it to people? Why? Because they can.
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Why indeed? It's ridiculous.
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It's absolutely horrible. And the prison system in The United States and around the world needs to be completely revamped. It needs to be taken apart limb from limb, piece by piece, and rebuilt to something that actually focuses on, first of all, only crimes against humanity or only lawful crimes where there is an actual victim, where there's actually harm or injury. Those are the crimes. The victimless crimes, screw you guys.
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Go Well, the real the real crime is the so called criminal justice system. That's a crime. It's not a criminal. It is a criminal justice system but not in the way that they intend you to understand it. I mean the thing I like Right. Although I am deluded and you have to forget my sort of wishful thinking, but the idea of large numbers of people doing something like that. First of all, it's peaceful, it's harmful, it is a kind of wonderfully ironic joke and therefore it would appeal across a broad base, possibly. Although some people might say that's not what we want to do, we want to do a punch up. We don't want to do that. We don't want to go into violence or dishonor at all. If we can hold that ground, you you know, I've often thought about this is that they come up with a regulation. What you do is you say that's not strong enough and you push it even harder so that it destroys everything. It's the speed. One of the great weapons they have is that they introduce things very slowly and create residual apathy.
They're continually pumping into your head these ridiculous things which they then don't do anything about. They'll come back in a year, see if you've softened up, see if you're bored, see if you've lost interest, see if you've watched your phone enough, whatever they're doing right and then they'll slowly creep in you go, I can't be bothered anymore. And that's the point where we just yield another part of being able to live our lives decently and honorably without these interfere the interfering class getting a greater hold on our day to day living, which is what this is all about. This whole thing about you will eat the bugs and be happy. You will not own anything and you'll be happy. There's no there's not enough of a sufficient rebuttal. Certainly, you don't hear it from the news services. There should be some outraged pundits going, who is this bald headed twat?
Right? Out in Switzerland talking crap because that's how it needs to be addressed. Get him in the pub here. We'll sort that lad out. He needs sorting out, you see, but we can't get to him. They live in this space and they keep pumping out this pew and they do it very slowly and it's very tragically, it's very effective, unfortunately. They're part of it.
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Well, the bald headed twat is actually, he's actually a historian because he is talking about what's already happened. Because because under a feudal system, I mean, the government has monetized people. They've monetized the birth certificates and your actual future labor. It comes from the feudal system. It comes from the Babylonian merchant code. And what he's talking about, you will owe nothing and you will be happy. Well, hello. You own nothing already. When you register your motor vehicle with the Department of Motor Vehicles, you actually turn ownership of that vehicle over to the state and agree that anytime you operate it, you will be engaged in commerce and therefore are under the scope and authority and jurisdiction of the Department of Motor Vehicles and the Motor Vehicle Code. So what you just said, Paul, what you just said, right,
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That's a great example of what we have to break down into little chunks. Right? Because you know what you're talking about and I kind of do. But it's got to be broken down so simply. It's almost Forget even 16. Can you teach it to an eight year old? I'm serious. I'm deadly serious about this. It's the most important thing. Little building blocks because if you think about most people's emotional relationship to the law, it's one of anxiety and they're right to be anxious about it, right? They don't want we talk about. We don't want the knock on the door. They'll come and get you. All this kind of stuff. Who are they? Why are you anxious? You're anxious about it naturally because you know nothing about it. You understand at least that they have got all the cards in their hand. They're gonna play a game that you don't even know the rules of and they're likely therefore to win and in 99 times out of a 100 cases that's exactly what happens. So if we can, you know, well I'm saying we, I'm going to be doing this or at least I got drawn into doing this. It all comes out of looking at the flags.
It's this simplification of a very complex process, so that normal people can go: Look, I know what jurisdiction means and you ain't got it, mate. And this, All of these things that just need to be put in place so that people can get connected with the honorable operations of lawful living. And this thing about living in the private and living in the public, I don't fully understand this. What you're just saying there about cars and commerce, commerce is in the public but you're you the flesh and blood man are in the private. Now even that sentence alone is is, a challenge to a to the mind Because everybody thinks we're just in it together dealing with this stuff, and if we could just get a new government in it'll all work out. Well it can't ever work out because the entire operating system, the code for the operating system, basically views you as a virus in it.
That's basically what it does. We don't wanna be in that operation. The problem is
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the difference between the public and the private with with respect to an automobile is by contract is because when you sign that depart that DMV motor vehicle registration application, you're agreeing to an adhesion contract that they did not disclose to you. You're agreeing to a whole bunch of crap that they never told you you would have to agree to. So when that cop pulls you over on the side of the road, he's already got your consent. He's already got your contract. He's already got your agreement Yeah. To do whatever he wants to you. Well, I I think that would be a really good story to go into
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because driving offenses are ubiquitous. Everybody's had them for all sorts of things. Mhmm. And it's not to go, I think, into an adversarial position with the other side. It's to get really clear about what you would say. As I said, I'm just repeating what Stuart mentioned to me the other day, what is the nature of your action? It's in commerce. And so Right. This thing about Yeah. And I know this is Roger's work about getting your status correct so that you're not in commerce or whatever the situation demands at that time. So that you retain honor.
You don't go into dishonor and they would and if they don't answer your questions they are going into it and it's I think it's gonna be fascinating but I'm gonna have to I want to talk to Stuart a few more times to see if we can pair it down almost like into little chunks. I'm serious because if you've seen a lot of this free man on the land stuff as well, it's it's very long. Yeah. That's bunk. And and people people get lost in the whole thing, you know. They all get lost in it. But they completely ignore it. They completely ignore it because there is no statute, act, or code that recognizes
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the sovereignty of a free man on the land. There is, however, federal, statutes that recognize a national of The United States Of America. It is a political status that is recognized by them. But just getting back to the DMV and the motor vehicle, do you know how they get you in interstate commerce? Because the only thing they can regulate is commerce, interstate commerce. Well, if you're a fourteenth amendment citizen, that means that you are a citizen of the District of Columbia and the federal United States government. Now if you are operating a motor vehicle that is registered by the DMV, you are engaging in interstate commerce just by going down the road to get a loaf of bread because you are property of the federal government, and you are operating a vehicle and transporting yourself as someone else's property.
And that is how the state gets you in interstate commerce.
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You Isn't this going to be fun putting this into little cartoons?
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Oh. Yeah. Little little bitty snippets.
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Hey, everybody. Oh, hi. Patrick. I was just about to introduce you. Welcome to the show, everybody. Patrick is here. Hi, Patrick. How are you doing? Happy days you're here again. Not too bad. Not too bad.
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Yeah. No. I was I was listening to y'all. It was pretty good. I think I think that, I don't know what to think about about, what you're talking about. You're talking about pilots getting eaten? What was that all about?
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Yeah. We were talking about eating we're we're talking about that was in hour one, I think. We were talking about the Argentinian rugby train team that crashed into the Andes in nineteen seventy something or other.
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'72?
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That's when it was and they were stranded there for ten weeks, seventy days in sub zero temperatures, and they ran out of food. And so the pilot, they ate some of the pilot to keep themselves alive. And out of the party of 45, about 25 succumbed to the conditions and 19 or 20 of them survived and got out.
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And and then Paul was talking about the Donner Party. Yes. That's right. Don't you remember The Shining? Where where Jack Nicholson looks at it at his wife and child and talks about the Donner Party getting lost up in Colorado? Yeah.
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Yeah. Let's see.
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But did they have driving licenses? That's what I wanna know.
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Yeah. Right. Exactly. Yes. Exactly. For their dog covered wagons.
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Yeah. Okay. The Donner Party was a group of American pioneers who became snowbound in the Sierra Nevada Mountains during the 1846 to 1847. While traveling to California, their harrowing experience marked by starvation and ultimately cannibalism has become a cautionary tale in American history. Yep. Right.
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I I just wonder how much of that is going on in Gaza right now.
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I don't know. Out of the 87 people out of the 87 people who began the journey from Illinois to California, forty died during the winter because they got a late start. And as soon as they hit that mountain pass, the storms came, and they were snowed in. They started by eating their animals, and then they started and then they ate the animal hides, and then they ate whatever was left. And I'm not gonna go into that any further. Yeah. Well, it where I'm going. It's it's kinda like the early American savages here
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when we had, you know, in America I'm reading a book at the moment about the first, Catholic martyr in North America. And it was a Jesuit priest from France who came and lived near Montreal and then went down south into, like Lake George and Lake Champlain, New York area and got captured by a hero or well, he went amongst the Huron Indians and then the Mohawk Iroquois. They were all Algonquin type Indians. But what they used to do with the prisoners of war was they would torture them, they'd cut their fingers off and make them eat their fingers, and then they would, just like brutalize them, cut them, and then roast them over fires, like drag them over fires and then eat them. And that was their way of getting revenge with people. Yeah, well you think of like, we have pow wows where they do the Indian drumming.
That's that's to, block out the screams of the people that they were torturing.
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I am so glad the third hour of this show is giving such a delightful topic.
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Well, it's also less than normal. Savage for you. Yeah. Mars.
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Yeah. Time. So toasting grandma would be a totally different sort of Literally. Meaning yes. Literally toasting grandma. Yes. Exactly.
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They wouldn't do that to women and children, even though the women and children would take part in the torturing of people. And that was part of the Oh, good Lord. The whole thing. Yeah, the women and children were brutal. They they would go in and tear people's limbs off and it's nuts.
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Poor hot cold one. That must be the that must be the Well, don't you remember that? Do you remember that little story I told about,
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1,600 and all at Jamestown? Yeah. Where they they arrived. I'll When I was meeting the boat They'd been three and a half months traveling across the Atlantic. They're pulling in. They're overjoyed to get to dry land. As they're coming down the tributary or whatever it's like, there's a canoe comes out of one side with these scores and children in it with a look of terror on their face paddling like mad and then about thirty seconds later, there's these white guys going even quicker and they all get completely anxious. They go the chase runs across the front of the boat, the prow goes right across. They all then switch to the other side and look at it, at which point the white guys catch up with the scores and the and the children, they kill them all. They drown them in the water, much to the absolute disgust of all the passengers that had arrived.
But when they got to the quayside, the captain goes up and wants to remonstrate with the leader of this canoe gang, as it were, who's with the harbour master and he explains to her what happened, which is exactly what you're talking about. They'd found all their party who had been tortured, had his skin pulled off, and he was still alive. They peeled his skin off down. It was actually just went crazy. And,
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you know, but, you know, we're savages, everybody. Don't worry. We're all the same, and we're all gonna get on. Well, that that's just it though. You know, the the the Jesuits came in, and what they would do is they would baptize them and catechize them and civilize them. Because, and they were receptive eventually, you know, they had to deal with a lot of the savagery, throughout time, of course. But gradually, that went away as time went on, and they abandoned it. I mean, they don't do it to this day. They still keep their traditions and the ones that are fairly harmless and innocuous.
Yeah. But that's the way they used to be. And it's it's not like it was anything new either because you you look in the Bible about Moloch, and it talks about them, how the the Israelites would stray and start worshiping Moloch, sacrificing their children. Yep. And it was the same type of thing. They would sit and they'd drum really heavy because you'd have to hear the children cry. And in order to drown that out, that's why they'd have those big drums to to drown it out so the father wouldn't get all riled up Yep. Of those children.
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Yep. No. It's all bad stuff.
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Richard Harris' film was A Man Called Horse. What a load of old rubbish. Because I noticed what they're doing now. They're kind of making it look as if the Indians were such nice people, all full of love and peace. And if you go to a place called Glastonbury in, England, they got all these was it dream catchers and what it looks like someone's just shot a pigeon and just sort of plucked it and shoved a load of feathers yeah it looks like a spider web type thing that's right yeah and they sell them to the gullible people for a lots of money they have gong baths and things like that, which I got invited to once, and I've never been so bored.
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I can't fuck them whole do a sort of counterpoint to that. The fuck them whole gong
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A clash of villages.
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A clash of villages. This would be cool. I'd quite enjoy that. That'd be a lot of fun. Well, it it was a dark You can do the fucking watch it on the camera. Catcher, Eric. That's what you want. There we go. That hit a nerve.
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That's what you want. But it's all this it's all this piffle. It's all this bullshit. It's like, what was that one about wolves that they had? What was that? Oh. Dancing with Wolves. Dancing with Wolves. You know, if that man had walked anywhere near the Indian camp, it'd be dead. That's it. Full stop. End of. Walks in and makes peace with a lot of load of old cobblers.
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I think The Revenant, which was out recently, is a little bit more true to life, really. I mean, it's probably a little bit more. And if we're talking about really great westerns, even though there aren't any Indians, oh, there might be a few Indians in this. I don't know. There's two things that spring to mind. One is a fantastic TV series, called 'Lonesome Dove' which starred Robert Duvall and Tommy Lee Jones. American series in the eighties. It's absolutely brilliant. It's one of the best things Robert Duvall's ever been in, but if you find a copy you've got to get used to the fact that the picture's square because it's for it's before the the the broad main TVs came out. Yeah? The Academy aperture. Yeah. It's four by three or something like that or whatever it is, and it's but it's absolutely brilliant.
It's it's so it's very long and it's about a Texas cattle ranch that's suffering from drought for two years and they'd lose so they decide to take them 3,000 miles up to wherever it is, a long way. I can't remember exactly which state they're going to, but from Texas Texas it's all gonna be a long way if they're headed north. And it's their, what they live through together. And it's really it's a fantastic fantastic story. It's just a great story. It happens to be about cowboys, but it's a wonderful story. Absolutely brilliant. And the other one I would mention, the other cowboy thing that leaps out recently is, The Adventures of Buster Scruggs by the Coen brothers. I don't know if you've seen that. Have you seen it? I've seen bits I've seen bits of it. The load of old cordless, but it's funny. Oh, well, it it is. But there's there one of them yeah. The first one, the only one, is meant to be a pastiche in a way, and it's very witty and funny, and I liked it a lot. I like all, but it's basically four short stories.
There's one in there about a cattle trail, that's quite brilliant about and they confront Indians in a way that's so spare you feel as though you it's like it there's no music, there's nothing, there's just a guy with a rifle, and there's about 15 guys, Indians on horses coming at him and he's trying to protect a woman. It's quite it's wonderful storytelling. It's really excellent stuff, and you really get a feeling of what it was like. Yeah, but it's just the way it's the way it's all caught in it. It's like I'm going, yeah. You like someone goes, I'm just going over this hill. You're going, where's he gone? It's like only ten minutes. You get killed because it's all quiet. You can't hear anything. I'm going, you know, people's guards down. They think that it's all cozy and it's not. And they don't hear stuff And I'm thinking, wow. It just feels much more like I I think it would have been. There you go. I know we got into cowboys, but why not? He's quite educated, isn't he? What buster scrubs? So he he's very cool,
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laid back, sort of, he's great. But he if I ask the part Yeah. He did affect the part well. I don't know who is the actor in that. I I don't know, but he I haven't seen him before, but he's a very good actor, whoever it is. Yeah. He's an English bloke. He sounds a bit English. No. He's not. No. He's no. He was also in, Oh Brother, Where Art Thou, which is also a pretty wonderful film by them,
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which I quite like.
[02:26:14] Unknown:
They're pretty good. Yeah. Even though they, of course, took the Mickie and the Ku Klux Klan. The ballad. Sorry. That's right. It's the ballad of Ballad of Buster's Burgs. Of Buster's Burgs. That's right. You if you wanna see close to what it was like, you need to see and I know the Americans don't know this film. Brilliant is Carry On, Cowboy. Yeah. Filmed, I think, just outside London. It's supposed to be the world where oh, it it was was it some someone there was a bloke that was sent to clean up Stodge City, and, he goes there, and they don't realize he's a sanitary engineer, not a sheriff.
He's gonna clean it up. But,
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no, I mean, it is By the way, if anybody wants to call in, I know I say this, and I'll just keep saying it. If you wanna call in and you're on the in on Tintinet and want to come in that way, go to paulenglishlive.com/call. Paulenglishlive.com/call. That'll bring you through to a little sort of anteroom, a little secondary studio that we have for taking calls or you can call the phone number and the phone number is running on the screen right now. So there's a US number and a UK number. If you wanna call phone numbers, it's running on the screen. So I won't read it. I like it. It's a bit dull, but I'm just letting you know we're here for another thirty five minutes or so. And if you've got any comments or you wanna just bend the conversation a particular way, we're quite open to that. You're in the pub so you can chip in and have your 10 pennies. Yes. Yeah.
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Yeah. But aunt Sally just said Fockham Hall fart catcher. Yeah. When my children were young, they used to fart into what charming children? Into sandwich bags, tie them up quick, and then burst a bit into each other's face. Who taught a man, Sally? Who taught them that? Yes. What what? Hello, children. Probably at at school. Do they go to progressive school? Today, we're going to learn how to fart into a bag.
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I already showed Sir, my mom's told me how to do this. Can I show the rest of the class? Yeah. What's going what's going on? Well, at least they're not teaching them to pull people's fingernails out and that kind of stuff. Yes. It's a little bit more amusing, frankly. It is. A little bit Joyce Grenfell, I think, is the best school teacher.
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Anyway, she said, today, children, we're going to all be pretty flowers. No tummy. You can't be a cauliflower. But, yes. Joyce Grenthall, your poll I guess you've never heard of over the pond. I guess you've never heard of Joyce Grenthall. No. Who's she? She was in the nineteen fifties, and she stuck in the nineteen fifties. She lived until, I don't know, about four years ago. But she was a woman that used to do sort of one woman talks, and she's very very funny she's very funny but very fifties humor that was a era sort of thing very posh British lady she came across this slightly eccentric
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she created a sort of stage persona for herself that was very it's very gentle, sort of witty observations about people's odd and queer behavior and stuff. It's very much like the sort of lady that would have gone round to the vicarage for more more scones and tea vicar. More tea vicar? Yeah. That kind of thing. And it's very polite and she's yes. And all that kind of stuff. It's it probably wouldn't travel across the Atlantic that well. I think it's very it's the sort of England we want to get back, Eric, isn't it?
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Well, the one that on the BBC, which is a very, very famous one, they used to have a vicar. I think you've heard this one before, Paul. You know, they used to have a vicar and some elderly ladies on there doing a a posh gardening program. And they used to be very, very, very sort of posh. And before the web went on air, the vicar had actually impaled his finger on it with rose thorn. And this is the exact words. I think you know what's coming. And she said, hey. Hello, vicar. Says, hello. How's your prick, Vic Vic Vicar? Oh, it's still throbbing. And the working class people the posh people didn't see any anything funny in it. Working class were off their seat with laughter.
And, that was on the BBC. It's all frightfully posh. You know?
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And that actually went on air, live on air. That sounds like the sort of joke that the cheeky chappy would have would have told, isn't it? Yes. Yes. Absolutely. Yes. Max Miller. That sounds like a Max Miller type joke.
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It's a funny story. It's a funny story. Hey, miss. There's a man in the nude. Can you imagine that lady? Can you imagine that? That's his patter, wasn't it? And did you know that Max Miller told, oh, he gave, he was chatting there. There was a famous comedian. He died not long ago. He gave him a master class in that to do comedy. And it was Bob Munkhouse. Bob Munkhouse was rubbish when he started. And Max Miller was watching him in the wings. And afterward, he came off the stair off the stage, and hardly anybody clapped. He's he gave him a half an hour master class on how to do comedy. And he said, don't hit the punch line. Let people's imagination hit the punch line. And, it is because he never did hit the punchline.
And he was and he he used to move on to another another one. You know, he said, came home last night as a man in the nude, in my house. Could you imagine that, lady? Could you imagine that? I said to my wife, what's he doing here? She said, oh, he's a nudist. He's come to make make a telephone call. It's not very good for you. Yeah. I mean, it's an old one. But
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And to think I actually had a joke earlier tonight, and I self censored because I didn't think we were going there. Because you're polite and you're a man of honor. That's why, Paul. You're you've got good manners, and this is what we like. But You like good manners. The gunpowder one. Yeah. That's a brilliant one, the gunpowder one.
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Sorry. I can I could okay? I could probably tame this down a little bit. Is a a man husband and wife, they're they're talking it's about breakfast time and the wife is saying, would you like would you like some eggs, some bacon and eggs, maybe some, perhaps some, pancakes and sausages, and coffee, something like that? And the man says, well, you know what? It's I mean, it's this Viagra. It's it's just interfering with my hunger. I mean, I I really have no interest in eating. She says, alright. So and then it comes to lunchtime. And she says, well, would you like soup and a sandwich? It's about lunchtime. I could make you a soup and a sandwich or or perhaps whatever else you would want. And he said, well, you know, it's now I'm I'm really not that hungry. I'm really not not in the mood to eat anything. I'm, it's this Viagra. It's just interfering with my with my hunger, with my appetite.
And then it gets a long dinner and she says, darling, how would you like a nice thick rib on steak? Maybe perhaps a potato, a nice cold beer, something like that. Wouldn't you like something for dinner? And he says, well, I'm I'm really I'm really this this my agony, it's really taken my appetite completely away. And to this, she says, well, would you do me a favor, love? Would you get off of me? Because I'm bloody starving.
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Nearly lost a shot of black. Can I, start by I mentioned I mentioned I'm gonna just I'm gonna just completely skew you for five minutes because I want to get this in? I mentioned I was gonna, I had something ancient to mention here from the, the Council of York in 1311. I bet you're all keen to guess. But this is just me hopping I would just want you to know how they dealt with usurers back in York. Although, it was the whole of England in 1311. Now this is not too long. This is but it gives you an indication of the clarity that they had that we've lost about how to deal with this. It says if anyone falls into the error of believing and affirming that it is not a sin to practice usury, we decree that he be punished as a heretic. And a sin to practice usury, we decree that he'd be punished as a heretic. And the body of the message goes as follows. It says, reliable sources inform us that certain communities, in violation of the law, both human and divine, approve the practice of usury.
By their statutes confirmed by oath, they not only permit the exaction and payment of usury but deliberately compel debtors to pay it. They also try by heavy statutory penalties and various other means and threats to prevent recovery by individuals who demand repayment of interest. For our part, we want to put an end to these abuses, and so we decree with the approval of the council that all civil officials of these communities, that is magistrates, rulers, councils, judges, lawyers, and other similar officials, who in future make, write, or draw up statutes of this kind or knowingly decide that usually may be paid or in case of it having been paid may not be freely and fully restored when its return is demanded incur the sentence of ex communication.
They shall incur the same sentence if they do not within three months remove such statutes from the books of those communities, if they have the power to do so, or if they presume in any way to observe the said statutes or customs to the same effect. Moreover, since money lenders frequently conclude loan contracts in an occult or fraudulent manner which makes it difficult to convict them on a charge of usury, we decree that they should be forced by ecclesiastical censure to produce their books on such occasions. Finally, if anyone falls into the error of believing and affirming that it is not a sin to practice usury, we decree that he be punished as a heretic and we strictly command the ordinaries of the localities and the inquisitors to proceed against those suspected of such errors in the same way as they would proceed against those accused publicly or suspected of heresy. That's from the Council of York in 1311, and it was during the reign of Edward the second. I just thought your lot's lost history. To be too much to handle though later on with the church.
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Every contract ends up going to the church for her for a judgment. That's the problem Right. With it. Yeah. That that they later came up with. There's a an encyclical that came out called Vix Pervainant that talks about usury and how it just got totally out of control. And it was in the, I think, in the seventeen hundreds that the remote
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Right now, but Yeah. It's right now. But so good old DeLongeshanks sorted out, didn't he? Because he booted all the users out. For a while. And we did for a while, three hundred years until,
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Cromwell reintroduced them. Nice man, I don't think. Well, it wouldn't have been just them. I think, obviously, it seems to be a certain sort of mercantile class leans towards it. Although, of course, it became, you know, the kings over here basically augmented it because they became reliant upon the revenues that they would be able to extract from the Jewish men the Jewish money lenders that they gave the power to. So the King was basically up to his neck in it as well. It was a terrible sort of good cop bad cop thing, and he was using the money basically to fund armies to go off, in our case, and fight with the French for a hundred years. You know, it's human nature don't change. It's nothing new. It's different form today, but the dynamics exactly the same. Someone feels entitled to rob you because of some spurious foul contract that says that you've got to pay them more and then it would have hurt even more. It would have been I mean I would think the the impact of it would have been much more readily and easily seen because of the complete lack of credit cards.
The liquid financial space that we now live in which is basically almost an artificial money system. It's all bogus. Nothing really means much basically. It's all sort of micro controlled in terms of prices and markets. But back then, people would feel it. They literally wouldn't have enough money. They'd be thrown out and all this kind of stuff. It's terrible state of affairs. Anyway Yeah. Vicks Vicks Vicks Vicks Vicks Vicks Vicks Vicks Vicks Vicks Vicks Vicks Vicks Vicks Vicks Vicks Vicks Vicks Vicks Vicks Vicks Vicks Vicks Vicks Vicks Vicks Vicks Vicks Vicks Vicks Vicks 1745.
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And this is what it said about usury. The received. The sin rests in on the fact that sometimes the creditor desires more than he has given. Therefore, he contends some gain is owed him beyond that which he loaned. But any gain which exceeds the amount he gave is illicit and usurious. That's the definition.
[02:39:07] Unknown:
Yeah. It's interesting. I mean Belloc has got a slightly different definition of it, or at least a slightly side so he says that usuries on any unproductive loan, which is quite interesting in a way, but I think, you know, I Well, if you're in a business partnership, it's a different situation. Of course. If you're given money to invest, then yeah, that's a different situation. But Well, basically, they all should be viewed as partnerships. I mean, but of course, what it ended up was that the money lender was just accounting house and basically, where's the where's the money? I don't care whether you've done whether you've used it well or not, you know. And this caused them, of course, to not be responsible for who they lend it to. They would just then enforce the repayment of it and it became a sort of, you know, a secondary pressure on people. Now it's just seamlessly institutionalized everywhere we go Because it's on everything, everybody's paying usury indirectly whether they like it or not because we all the prices that go into the interest payments are carried in the goods and services that you buy. That's how the company gets it back.
So the whole thing is just a seething mass of interest on interest on interest. Hence, a $37,000,000,000,000 debt supposedly on a sheet of paper, but it's but there for control purposes.
[02:40:20] Unknown:
That's really what's And it's always grabs your asset. At the end, it grabs your assets. That's why the World Economic Forum was saying you will owe nothing and be happy because that's what usury is. They're just grab grabbing your assets. It it just gobbles up everything. It's just like a monster.
[02:40:36] Unknown:
Alright. Yeah. The oldest example of usury and how evil and despicable it is is what did Russia and Germany have against the Jews? Why did they hate them so much? For stealing people's houses. And how did they do that? Usurious loans that could not be repaid because they were that way by design. Yep. It's all theft and heresy. I like them. I like it being referred to as heresy. I think it's
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long overdue. But it is. It's a heresy. I mean, it Yeah. It's not Christian. It's just well, it's just against the law, basically. I mean, if allowed into any space, it's the virus that chews up all the substance of life. That's why the culture's decaying. Everything, every single thing that we talk about here, one of the prime drivers or inherent qualities within it is this. Everything. Are we gonna make this is why they're always talking about economic growth. Why just get rid of why don't we not talk about that? Get rid of interest on loans. Right? Stop all that nonsense. Sort it out in a different way. We've got these computers, everybody. So the computers have been used to increase the efficiency of usury. Whereas, in fact, they ought to be used to completely remove it totally.
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Yes.
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But they've gone so used, I guess, to their role of being master lender, a new master borrower. And what does it say? It's somewhere in Deuteronomy. They will become, the lender. You will become the borrower. They will become the head. You will become the tail. You they'll be able to lend to you. You won't be able to lend to them. Hello? Welcome to living on England in 02/2025. And probably in large parts of living on America
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as well. That's what it's like. Well, that's part of it too. Is it, like, they see other people as subhuman that they can just use their their, slavery make put them into slavery whenever they want to and and use it for their own advantage. Yeah. But is there any truth in the I I heard this week that Putin
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has booted out the Rothschilds, and apparently, it was on RT. I haven't checked it out myself. I don't know if there's any truth in it, whether it's a, an Internet,
[02:42:52] Unknown:
he has to say something. The Rothschilds are how Alaska was lost by the Russians to the Americans. They had a loan for their war, you know, for the, actually it was for the, when they got rid of serfdom, the noblemen and Russian landowners had to pay for the serfs that they emancipated. And in order to do that, they took out loans from the Rothschilds, and they couldn't pay it back. So as collateral, they put down Alaskan land as the collateral, and when they couldn't pay it back, they ended up having to sell it to the government of America in order to pay the Rothschilds
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back their their loan. What's the what's the main, city in Alaska?
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Anchorage. What's Is that Anchorage? Kodiak
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Kodiak Island that's, It might be Anchorage. They got a university at Anchorage. So I've got another I've got another anic, a narrative about that, which I'm just it's just coming up on my hard drive. Got it, I think. So I saw this about six or nine months ago. It's to do with the Alaskan thing, you know. So what did they what did, America pay for Alaska? Okay. It's not Well, I don't remember what it it wasn't very much. No. Some million It's a couple of million dollars. Right? And it was something like 1¢ It was like two Ten ten acres. 2¢ 2¢ 2¢ an acre is what I'm saying. So, you know, we won't mind that. Right? Of course, they probably weren't fully aware of what was gonna lie beneath it or maybe they were, I suppose. Maybe they'd had some clue, but that's not what it's about. The story I heard from a university professor up in, I think, Anchorage, okay, who'd found this in the documents, the local records, was that Russian, fur, traders had been coming to Alaska to capture whatever animals have got fur up there. Fear of Sorry to be Stupid Okay. And they'd wiped most of them out. It became less and less lucrative as they basically depleted this stock of animals and there was less fur, so they weren't too bothered about it anymore.
And it taps into, the US war between the states because Yes. The Russians sent the navy into New York, did they not, to support Lincoln. And there was a debt that was owed to Russia for that, but they didn't want it to be made public that that that had happened. They had to be disguised. So the wholesale of Alaska was basically a way for this for The US to pay the Russians back for the Russian navy coming in and siding with Lincoln, under the guise of buying Alaska because they didn't want it anyway because they got rid of all the animals that they took that they didn't value it. They weren't gonna come back anymore. So they said, look, we'll put this out as a story. That's what we do and then we get our $2,000,000 back that yours for the Navy coming up fifty years ago whenever it was. When was it sold? Nineteen o two or something, wasn't it? So it's only about Alaska. Alaska. When was the auction? Late 1800s, early 1900s? The Civil War was '18 in the eighteen sixties was the Civil War. That's right. But Alaska, the auction, that was a was about thirty years after that, but that would make sense. That's okay. They can let these things run. So it's very if you look, I can't remember where it is. It was a YouTube interview, but I think there's also some documents about it. I thought I thought it was fascinating, and he seemed to have sort of documentary proof that this is basically what had taken place. That it was a disguise sale.
They couldn't care less about Alaska. They had no intention of coming back. So they said, you can buy offers because we want our 2 or $3,000,000 back or whatever then the US government ended up paying for it at the time. So, anyway, it quite appealed to my sense of intrigue, I have to tell you, and it looked pretty good. Yeah.
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Well, tomorrow there's supposed to be a big meeting between Putin and Trump, which hopefully goes well. I don't you know, as much as it you can say that these type of things can go well, I I hope it ends. I'm I'm tired of it. The war between Ukraine and Russia, it's a bloodbath. What do what what good is going on there whatsoever?
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It's all part of the world geopolitical stage play, isn't it?
[02:46:56] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah, and Alaska is a fitting place though, because of the Russian territory that it used to occupy. Mhmm. Trump's family, it was his, I think it was his grandfather came into America from Germany. His actual name is the Trumpledorf or something like that. Right. It's not Trump. It was abbreviated, but then what he did is I think he went up to Alaska and bought up a lot of saloons and that sort of thing, property, gold mines and things. And that's how his family actually gained wealth was up in Alaska. So, no doubt they may even meet on one of his properties if that's the case.
But I hope it goes well because they got to end that, you can't, you can't be having that kind of war going on. I mean, it's only a matter of time before they bring it over here. These things with drones, those things are cheap and you get, you get people doing that sort of thing, promoting it over there. They'll do the same thing over here and they'll have no problem
[02:48:05] Unknown:
doing it. No, it's all hell. It's all hell. It's the manifestation of a disease that's a lot deeper,
[02:48:13] Unknown:
isn't it? I just think, you know, it's been like this for thousands of years. Well the thing where they just revert to sanctioning, you know, like the sanctions office, it just becomes a joke. I mean, now it's tariffs, And it's just like, well we're gonna just sanction everybody we don't like and then it leads to a war and then you wonder why it led to a war because you get these people who can't talk to each other. They shut down the embassies and then they say, well, yeah, they're just the enemy and we can't have them over here talking to us because we might come to peace terms. It's like, well, that's what we want.
[02:48:46] Unknown:
We don't want That's what we want, but it's not it's not really what the banks want, is it? It's not what the money power wants. I mean, that's all I know I said, but I I just tend to think it will answer 99 out of a 100 questions. If the money power want more, it happens. If they don't, it won't. That's it. Because, all of these parts and components are manufactured from certain companies all around the world. All send them everywhere. They don't care as long as they, you know, their stocks are okay and all this kind of stuff. And it's all interlate interrelated. All of the interests of other people are interrelated with everybody else.
Fancy a war? Look, we could sort this out. This is literally like that. They're not gonna find it. Their sons and daughters aren't gonna be in it. And, of course, you know, the peasants are always there to be chewed up. It's it's not People are just too fat and happy.
[02:49:40] Unknown:
I guess. I mean, they're not that happy necessarily, but just too too fat, low Just fat, at least fat.
[02:49:46] Unknown:
Yeah. When the shelves are empty, supermarket shelves are empty, then they'll do so. But they won't be because what happened in lockdown, you could get high carbohydrate junk food with ease. The quality stuff, you couldn't get so easy. And that's what's gonna happen today. Again, you know, loads of, carbohydrates, you know, chemical food. That's what that that'll be plentiful, but real food won't be. And I think that's what we that's what the future holds. And I hope I hope I'm a 100% wrong. But,
[02:50:19] Unknown:
you know, I support those local farmers, those small farmers that Yeah. The That's definitely part of the solution process. I agree with you, Patrick. I think it's all part of that. And Paul mentioned earlier that all politics is local, and we've got to turn that from a phrase into an actuality. It needs to become that. People I realized though that the training that you're receiving all the time is undetected by you. You can't help it. It's not possible to deal with all of these things. So since 1945 over here, the rise of convenience living, particularly over the last thirty or forty years, has changed the way that we live. And even the mob you know, I know I'm coming back to I'm not not laying the blame entirely at smartphones but it really has changed everything.
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Lots of moments.
[02:51:05] Unknown:
Yeah. Tons of stuff is just gone missing out of life. Moments of connection that used to exist. Like I've I go out walking quite a bit in the last two times. I've not taken my phone and realized that I felt anxious, that I was cross with myself. I want to listen to this and thought, give it a break. Give it a break. Just go and sit still and look at the sun for twenty or five and it's really refreshing, but you get so out of the habit of it and of course, there's no dopamine hit. Oh, no. Of course, you don't think of it in those terms, but our minds are running quicker. I think, generally quicker than they have ever had but basically on a fuel of, you know, sensationalist crap that keeps pouring through on the interwebs as it were. A lot of it is not particularly constructive and I've got a I'm trying to break myself with all sorts of habits and go I need to get into a more physical way of living again and out of this electronic space to the degree that I've been in. My excuse back to myself and it's a good one I think.
Obviously, I would think it's a good one because it's the one I came up to make me feel okay about it is I'm interested in plowing into all this stuff which I think is really what the Internet is amazing for, and not for all the, you know, the automation of our lives, which I'm disinterested in completely. And what Alice, you know, what you were saying, Eric, about getting the communication side going, I'm thinking, holy moly, there's so much to do. There there really is. But it until it starts, a little bit of it starts to get done, it's difficult for people to see what it is. I I do think it's a case of that. I agree. But we've touched on loads of things tonight. Local farmers, we need to do deal with that. This means, of course, you know, if we get into the county thing, we can have county money. Why can't you?
Why can't you Why can't you Why can't you Why can't you Why can't you because you have county money? I mean, oh, you can't do that because the world economy we're not interested in the world economy. We don't need it. Oh, no. We're reliant on all these things. Well, we won't be very soon. It's this so in other we're thinking about all the wrong things. We're thinking about how to resist them. It's a bit of a grand statement to say. We're thinking about the wrong things. You have to think about the emergencies that are coming down the road, of course, but such little time is devoted to actually constructing the world that we want to live in. And we only have to look in the recent past to see something was much much closer to it. I'm not saying perfect, but way way better in terms of the structure of daily living. It was much much better than this.
I just saw today, I don't know if you saw it Eric, over here. So it's a level result time that's come through. All the students get their a levels. And apparently, more have passed this year. It's the best year ever. Well, slap my thigh. I know. It's just amazing and all that kind of stuff. Now let's assume that it's true, and I don't know what what A level papers are like these days, but it'd be very interesting to compare them with those exam papers from 1882 that we were reading out several months ago, which was astonishing, right? Okay. And I include myself and I found A levels tough. I got two or three, I think something like that that I don't know. I don't even have the sheets of paper. Calculator,
[02:54:03] Unknown:
you know, you got you got AI and stuff to help you. Yeah. Maybe that does improve it. Yeah. You just I guess it does. All these tools at your fingertips.
[02:54:12] Unknown:
I guess it does. But the the thought that struck me as I saw this little clip was, what do they think these a levels are gonna enable them to do? To be smart in a world that's being designed to run-in a toilet? It it's Right. I'm not qualified to be more in the economy. What are you talking about? It doesn't exist the way it did even fifteen, twenty years ago. It's going so rapidly. There's somebody saying about AI, something like 40% of all websites now are built by AI. By 02/1926, it'll be 60%. By the end of this decade, it'll be nearly Everything's got this artificial feel to it and I'm thinking it's time to get out of the social networking stuff even though we're using it here to try and draw an audience in because I can't think of anything else better at the moment, and probably get back to things like private podcasts on private servers with private email discussion lists. Emails brilliant on discussion lists. It's really good. On a sort of county or parish basis and you link them together. I know it sounds so quaint. You're so backward. People are not gonna do that. I accept that they won't. They've got used to the convenience of instant connection but it's like people have got gazillions of likes. You go, what what does that mean? It's just a meaningless load of twaddle.
But the dopamine hit that comes from it, this is why they go crazy. Oh, look, I've got 2,000 people that like me. What does that mean? It just means they clicked something. I'm not trying to put anybody off by the way. I want you to all like these videos on YouTube and Rumble, so don't forget to click the like. By the way, share share and like this, video everybody. Yeah. By the way, on on the same end. Yeah. Promote it like mad because, you know, I can't live without the attention, all that kind of stuff. So, anyway.
Yeah. All that kind of gear.
[02:55:52] Unknown:
Interesting time. Good music. You you were talking about Ozzy Osbourne and the depressing stuff. We need the the happy stuff, you know, happy days are here again. That kind of the dance music that actually makes you wanna dance rather than, shuffle your feet and look down in depression. That, you know, we want the the good stuff. Yeah. You know, where we can prance around the dance floor.
[02:56:15] Unknown:
Yeah. Yep. I think we do. Because what like you said, it's it's coming. Eric, you're gonna do are you are you gonna do any prancing? What's going on?
[02:56:24] Unknown:
I might be prancing around. You never know. Yes. Twinkle toes, you know, on on the old dance floor. But, as I say, it won't look natural. It's not a pretty sight. I can assure you. I've had I as that girl said, it might be looking like I'm doing an impersonation of a panzer tank with a dodgy gearbox. And we're just walking into people and walking backwards and walking forwards again. But, no. It's just, some people are cut out for dancing. I don't think I am actually.
[02:56:58] Unknown:
Well, towards the end of the show, gentlemen, which has been a good hundredth show. Quite crazy, actually. I didn't know, all that. We had a lovely start. That was technically an awful lot of fun. I just forgot what all technical mayhem was like, but there we go. Anyway, we'll be back, same time next week. Got a guest next week. I think I mentioned it earlier in the show. Thomas Anderson, who was on several months ago, talking about the bell and things like that. He'll be back. I don't know what we're gonna talk about. I'm hoping maybe we'll really tunnel into AI. I think it might be worth having a good look at all that kind of stuff and the implications of it. How we avoid it? How we start supporting farms getting our eggs fresh and all this kind of stuff. So it's almost like being a neo luddite. I think that's really what I I think of myself as. Just a more tactile and involved life where you do get mud under your fingernails, you get a little bit dirty, you have to have a bath and all that kind of stuff you know, so all that kind of stuff. Anyway, there we go. Yeah there we go.
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Fantastic.
[02:58:03] Unknown:
So thanks everyone in, Rumble and YouTube this evening. Hope you've enjoyed yourselves. It's very warm where I am. I'm actually cooking here. It's really warm evening. You're in here. Yep. I'm going to the Eastbourne Air Display on Saturday. I haven't been to an Air Display in about twenty five years. So my son said red arrows are gonna be there. It's gonna be a beautiful day. A clear sky forecast, so no low cloud cover. Otherwise, it'd be garbage. Jets, all that kind of stuff. So we're gonna go and have a big Go on a plane ride, Paul. Spitfire? Yeah. Go on. Do it. Yeah. There's gonna be a spitfire. There'll be a spitfire. That's all that was bothered that's all we're bothered about. We'll see you all next week, everyone. Bye for now. Thanks very much. Thanks, Paul. Thanks, Patrick. Thank you, Eric. And thank you. Good chats and chat passes in Rumble and YouTube chat. We'll see you all week. Have a cracking
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week.
Really late with I knew my brain's not working well today. I've forgotten to actually broadcast to YouTube and rumble on it. It's okay. We'll be just a couple of minutes late. That's fine. Yeah.
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I was thinking about talking about shock.
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Where are you? They're they're not even in shock. Hey. We're live right now anyway on, WBN. Are we? Yeah. We are. Hello? Yeah. We are. We're not live anywhere else at the moment. We're not live on Rumble, so let's keep but anyway, look. So, this show goes out on Well, should I No. No. No. Just chill. It's fine. I think it's brilliant that the one hundredth show, I've had a feeling about all day was gonna be a complete mess. Hi, everybody out there on WBN. But it's just been a bit of a it's been one of those days, Eric. It really has. Don't worry. Everybody will be sat there moaning like mad. Just a minute. And I'll tell you when we're connected to Getting one's knickers in a twist is Yeah. Yeah. It really has. So I've just pressed the rumble button. Just hold your horses, and I'll I'll do the intro. Hang on. I'll have a look, see if you're on there.
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It'll take about thirty seconds for rumble to catch up. So Rumble's not in yet. I can't see you.
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I'll put somebody in chat. Okay. Let's just mute you. I'm just gonna mute you guys anyway, okay, for a second. Alright? Because we'll be there through and everything. Hello. Good evening. Good middle of the night, actually. In fact, it's through in the middle of the night. Oh, just a minute. Hello? Good middle of the night, actually. In fact, it's a good evening. Through in the middle of the night. Oh, just a minute. Hello? Good middle of the night, actually. In fact, we'll be there through in the middle of the night. Oh, just a minute. Oh, I'm in a good mood today. Hi. Welcome to Paul English live. I know it doesn't seem like it. I actually don't even feel alive, but welcome. It is, 08/14/2025.
I wish it wasn't. This is show number 100 and that must be nearly the one hundredth cock up for starting the show. How about that? But I'm pretty sure all the signs are now there that I'm alive. Welcome to the show. Let's do that music thing and then I can get my brains put back into my bottom. It's too warm for me today. My brain's gonna like Jell O. Not that I know what Jell O is. I'm British. Hi, everyone. Have I got everything ready? I think I might have. Oh wow. That's the best that's the best useless star ever. I think, I think that's really good actually.
100 shows in and I was saying I was being all cocky last week saying how everything had gone great. I haven't had a complete cock up like that for ages. My brain's been frazzled all day. I don't know why. I don't know whether I actually woke up it in my head. Too many late nights of course burning the midnight oil, yacking with people like Eric and others. But anyway, I hope you've had a cracking week. Here we are, show 100 and it means nothing. It's actually meaningless. It's just a number on a sheet on a sheet of paper or on a page but maybe it means a couple of things. We're nearly two years into this lark. And maybe, what with all the draconian laws of freedom that are being imposed on us, in other words, the removal of all our freedoms, maybe it's a really appropriate number to have. Anyway, wherever you are, wherever you're listening, I'm not gonna apologize too much for the beginning but that was a lot of fun. If you'd seen me just now over the last two or three minutes, should have had a right laugh. It's probably better than the rest of the show put together. But we're running on Rumble, we're running on YouTube, we're going out over WBN three two four. Hi, all you people on WBN. We're going out now over Radio Soapbox because that was cocked up too. Every single thing that could have gone wrong then went wrong, which means that from now on it's all going to go right and we'll start off by introducing Eric. Good evening to you, Eric. How are you?
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Good evening, Paul. And I think you should have started off with happy days are here again. No. No. No. You're not supposed to say it. Over and over and over again. Yeah.
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No. No. It's all it's all coming up. It's all coming up. We're gonna we're gonna be hap hap hap hap happy days today. Every day. I'm gonna play it. Well, I didn't know whether I ought to steal it from you. So I don't know if any of you know, but Eric Yeah. Eric Eric has a show for Mondays and Sundays. And there was a bit of a there was a bit of a a moment the other day where a song that was being played called Happy Days Are Here Again played again and again and again and again. I think about five times. By the end of it everybody's quite miserable really I think what they
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but brainwashed and did it you're very happy and we should have had Fockham's some propaganda minister or Nathan he's a proper he would have said you know you will listen to it, but happy days are here again and be happy. Yeah.
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Yeah. You will. Absolutely. Yeah. So, yeah. By the way, I put the only title I put for this show, by the way, it was just open house. I'm gonna tell you the way I feel halfway through the show, I think I am gonna open a bottle of wine. I think we'll do the first I'll try and do my first drunken show. I don't get drunk really. Sad, isn't it? It would actually make it rather more amusing if I did, but welcome to the open house of show 100 for whatever it's worth. There'll never be another show like this. Thank crikey.
Thankfully, because because it's, it's got off in a silly way. Anyway, if you're on Rumble Never mind. Yeah. I'm just having a look. Is is we're all running on Rumble, isn't it? There are not too many, oh, yeah. I see a couple of channels. Look. Cool. Are we all Yes. Yes. They're all all in. Mark Anthony. Hello, Mark.
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He's, like, usually in my chat as well. Mhmm. So Mark Anthony, 72. Very good man. Yes. And, Woody Peak. Hello. And who have we got in the other one? We've got, Brazil Blitz. That's a good name, ain't it? Brazil Blitz, Gary Davis,
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and Brazil Blitz. Really? Yeah. Mhmm. Well, shout out over in YouTube. Shout out to Peter Croft and Louise Ford and John Hales and Gary Davis and oh, yeah. As you said, Brett's Sue Sparkle. And Sue Sparkle.
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Yes. Sue Sparkle. Can anybody guess who Peter Croft is?
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No. We can't. Me? Who's Peter Croft?
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Because I got several accounts. You said, whatever is Peter Croft. So there we go. You won't be very good as a spy, Eric, would you? Really? Come on. You've just Oh, sorry. I am a spy. No. Yeah. But I work for the I work for the, raw mint. I'm a mince pie.
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Yeah. See? So so so so so This is just that joketastic already. We're already we're not even ten minutes. That's actually Yes. You know, Sue Sparkle. Hi, Sue. By the way, obviously, we've never met or spoken, but every time I've seen your name come up, it's reminding me of something and it just clicked what it was. You ever seen,
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I can't remember the name of the film now. Good grief. Strictly Ballroom. I did remember it. Have you ever seen that film Strictly Ballroom in it? I've heard of it. I'm not sure I've seen it because I used to have a girlfriend that liked all the dance films and I'll stretch through all of them.
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So you're not much of a dancer, Larry. Is that what you're saying? No.
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I'm a complete I I have a very long family tradition of non dancers. My father would never dance with my mother. And I have my feet firmly nailed to the floor. I do not dance. I'm a complete yes. I am a non dancer. And, I actually went to dancing classes with a girlfriend I had. Yeah. And we was dancing around. I said, Scooby, what's this song? She's and he said, have you ever heard a record called Get Off My Bloody Toe?
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Strange, ain't it? Because I said, Scooby, what's this song? She'd get off my bloody toe. I mean, I never heard of that record. Have you? No. So there we are. No. Well, I've never done that. I've never done that to a delicate lady or a delicate lady's small feet. There's nothing worse, actually, if you are a bloke and you stand on someone's foot, particularly if it's a small foot attached to a pretty lady. Yes. It's all over. It's finished, really. It's done. Yeah. Yeah. It's all over. Not that I suppose not that people get together. Anyway, but what was my anecdote? I was gonna say, oh, yeah. So Sue Sparkle. Right. So there's this film called Strictly Ballroom.
It's kind of is it semi camp? I don't know. I don't think it is really. It's it's about it's about ballroom dancing in Australia, mate, and it's just got I thought it was one of my it's a film I went to see when I was courting, you see, and it went down really well. It was great. I don't think I picked it or anything like that, but one of the it's set in the world, the highly competitive world of Australian ballroom dancing, you know, where they all get flopped up to boogery and they're all covered in alright. And it's about this guy who's a little bit not satisfied with it and he's got this terrible relationship with his parent. Well, it's actually very fractious.
His father has become really a hermit in the family. He's he's very subdued and he knows nothing about the history of his mother and father as being champion dancers in in the ballroom world from years ago, but something bad happened to his dad and all sorts of stuff like this. But anyway, to cut to the short of it, there is a a beautiful dancer, Sue, in there called Tina Sparkles. That's what it reminded me of. I just Oh. Yeah. So there you go. Tina Sparkles. Okay. It's very it's a great film, actually. It's very it is a great film. It's just full of it's very Aussie and it's also got actually, no, I don't like dancing too much either really, but it's got my favorite dance scene in any film ever ever. Right?
And I think you'd like it too, Eric, and I'll tell you why. I've got to get set you a bit of context right. He's, he's supposed to dance with all these, fancy gals in the dance studio. He's this lad. I can't remember his name and, he's kind of there's a girl called Fran who, at the beginning of the film, is a bit plain Jane and dowdy dressed and all this kind of stuff, you know, so and she's doing the sort of two steps and the foxtrot, all this kind of tame stuff in the dance studio, But he ends up getting to know her and, because he wants to dance his own steps. That's it. It's all about can you dance your own step.
I sound like an expert on this stuff. I've never been dancing in my life, everybody. There's still time, yeah, isn't there? Anyway, he, they go off. They trot off one day and they come back to where she lives. And, she lives with her uncle and there's all these and she's of Spanish descent. So it's all this Spanish family around the back having a barbie and everything. There's the Spanish mum there and it's quite a groovy atmosphere. You'd kind of like all this kind of stuff and they're burning a fire in a sort of oil barrel. It's called a bit roughty toughty on the rough side of town. And they come back and, he's furious that he's brought that she's come home late.
And he said, there's nothing to pick on her. And he starts pushing him around, this young lad, you know. He said, what do you do? He said, I dance. Uh-huh. He says, you dance? He says, what do you dance? He said, all sorts of things. He said, what? He said, paso doble. You heard of that dance? Paso doble dance? At least you've heard of it. Yeah? Yeah. I've heard of paso doble. Yeah. It's it's you've got to watch this scene is just brilliant. This guy, the the Spanish guy, short, full of fire. It's really good. It looks at him and goes 'Pasa Doble? You show me your Paso Doble.' Right? So he starts doing it with Fran. This Spanish guy just starts laughing and he calls all his mates out. They all come out, they're just laughing their socks off at him, and this young lad's getting furious about this. 'What's wrong with this? What's wrong with this?' He said, 'Pastor Doble, come with me.' So he takes him around the back and, the mama, as it were, the spat- the elderly Spanish lady who's been in the washing machine, she's a big gal. Big, right?
Rather large. Yeah. Lovely, but large. And this guy is in this sort of torrid stuff, jet black, really fiery black hair, short, full of fire as a sort of human being. And he dances he does this dance with this woman, and it's fantastic.
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It's absolutely brilliant. I've heard of that. It's
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a professional dancer, isn't she, apparently? She well, she might be, but it's just to do with the energy and the whole of this ritual of that particular you'll have seen it. It's the one where the the woman that is stood all still on one side of the dance floor and the guy is basically a bull. Right? He moves around all over the place like a bull and he all this kind of stuff and and it's absolutely a Spanish thing and it's nothing to do with me. I'm not Spanish. I have no tapping into that culture. But I look at it and I go, if if I could ever be taught to dance anything, it will be that because you also get to wear the most fantastic boots. And when they're stamping on the ground, it's the most it's very manly.
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Oh, yes. You get all the special. Wonderful. Yes. Because my dad had a theory about dancing. Yeah. See, this is my dad's theory. So don't please don't get upset. I mean, I mean, he sort of acted as a messenger. And he said, there's need two types of people that dance, women and poofs. Well, I When I went dancing classes, I was dragged off to dancing classes. He's talking about the sun. He says, is there something you haven't told me, son? You know what I mean? Are you perfectly alright? And, actually, the girl I was with said that dancing with me was a bit like dancing with a panzer tank with a dodgy gearbox.
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She'd seen one. She and she'd seen me in panzer tank.
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Yeah. Should you go forward? Did you go back? Back when you should go forward. I've got a bloody clue. Oh, bloody hell. I kept bumping into people. Yes. Yeah. But, but I think my dad's theory is a little bit out of date nowadays, isn't it?
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Yeah. Well, maybe. I think if you saw that, generally, I would agree with you. Yeah. Although, it's different, really. They used to have sorry. I mean, we normally talk about usury. We'll get around to that. Don't worry. But we can't talk about it for three hours straight. But we probably could, but you all get driven bug batty about it. I've got a few things to bring up about it, actually. Got some nice old stuff from 1311 that I wanted to bring into the show just to bring you some recent news. This just in from seven hundred years ago. No. But, Did you dig some poor sod up, did you? It's it's it's you have revived him. Digging him up, found all these bloody usury receipts under his armpits. They went, oh, it was you, was it? Yeah. No. It was, but, what were we talking about? I've got completely lost. I was talking about dancing. Oh, yeah. Dancing. Yeah. We used to have come dancing, didn't we, on telly? Do you remember? Yes. Remember? Yes, ma'am. I I I've actually been I've actually suffered that. Yes. I've suffered from that. It was unbelievable.
But a girl's greatest. Kid going, what are they doing? It's just, I think my dad used to go all the time. He said, look at them all done up like
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Puffs.
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Like puffs.
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Look at You know, my I've never seen such puffery in all my life.
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Of course, my mum loved it because the ladies and this is true. And I guess I'm terrible. The ladies were all wearing it's one of those lights. Listen. It's a pub night tonight. It's an open house. We're just having a drink and having a chat here tonight. Really, it's loose as a goose night. Very loose. Yeah. And We're the Queen's Lakes pub, aren't we? Yeah. Yeah. We're going on a pub crawl. We're starting off at the Queen's Lakes because it's always up they're always open. Yeah. And that's, that's that's what you can always get you always get a pint down there. My mum loved it, by the way, all that stuff, because all the ladies look beautiful, don't they? All wearing their dresses. Yes. They do look beautiful. Yes. I do I'll be the only dancing I watched was,
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Riverdance. Yeah. And I I like to see nice ladies with the short skirts, but I was put off a bit when my flatulence came prancing along on the stage, you know. And that's it. I lost interest at that point, you know. Did you? I was alright until old flatulence came on and then now I thought now better not. So I just lost interest, you know.
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It's a it is really for men. It's probably off even for young boys who wanna kick footballs around and climb up trees, it's probably one of the most uncomfortable things of all when you're that age, you know, wanting to dance. Whereas, the women naturally want to dance, don't they? I think. I mean, I I'm not trying to sort of be Alright. Maybe I've I've assumed too much. But I generally, that was my experience when I grew up, that you couldn't they always were down dying to just jump on the dance floor. And of course, they all ended up liking that, what was it? That dreaded disco music in the nineteen seventies. Oh, bloody hell.
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But I've already seen my dad dance once with my mom once. Uh-huh. And it's a very painful looking experience, because he was already a very happy go lucky bloke, you know, cracking a few jokes today, but he looked so feel bored out. Oh, you poor dad. So he's a very he's a very shy man. Was he? Self conscious. And he and it was sort of it was a bit like, a sing from Thunderbirds. You know? If you had two Thunderbird dubbies dancing, that's what it's a bit it's a bit like. Because my uncle's out of dancing with my mom. My dad refused to dance. Right.
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My my my dad wasn't too bad. I don't think my dad was too bad. I think he he was alright with it. I remember seeing all these photographs
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of you see, I think, obviously, your your dad probably didn't, therefore, I'm assume I'm assuming, bump into your mum in a dance hall, did he? No. He didn't. No. He didn't. He's very romantic, LA. And by the way, his father was a non dancer as well. He believed all the problems of this country came from the dance hall. So he was a non dancer. Yeah. All of them. He writes, all the problems in this country come from the dance floor, dance halls. Okay. Shows me granddad that believed that, and me, my dad believed it's any women in poofs that danced. So it's I've got a background. Really?
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This is a new one on me. It it it's not you're saying it's not the Fabian Society. It's not the Masons. It's the dancehall managers that are really responsible for much of the plight that we're suffering. Well, that's
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that's right. My grandfather's just thoughts. He said, since they since they had was it dance halls, that's where the troubles of this country started. All this dancing.
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Yeah. Well, I don't know I don't know when dance hall started up, but I know I had a I don't think I've still got it. There's a photograph, that used to be in the sort of family heirloom and all that kind of stuff kicking around. My mum and my dad at a dance at the Astoria Ballrooms in Leeds in 1948 or '49 when they first met. They got married about '51, '52 something like that about three years later and, they're all there. I might have mentioned this before, this is exciting stuff isn't everybody? You've all tuned in for this. Let's hear about Yorkshire dance halls in the late 40s. But everybody there, and we mentioned this before, all the guys, immaculately dressed in suits, the best suits I guess they could afford with the money they had, but they look pretty good to me. They look pretty good and the women are all in proper dresses and everybody's drinking tea.
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There's no booze. Oh, how nice? Not a drop. Yeah. Yes.
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Not a drop of booze. That's a bunch of We start I think it was afternoon There were afternoon dances. They'd go down on a Saturday afternoon like 04:00 or something or 05:00 and have tea and all that kind of stuff and and just get get with it, you know. So it was, look, it look good. I suppose, Eric, when you think about it, because the dancing back then actually required conscious thought to start off with with all the proper steps, you don't want too much booze. Otherwise, you'd be absolutely, well literally legless on the dance floor. That's right. Of course. But when it's disco, it doesn't matter whether you're drunk. Maybe that's why they invented disco, so that the blokes could just get really really drunk and just bounce around all over the place, you know. Maybe it's this.
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I I I don't understand disco, but the way my grandfather met his future wife, he was a greengrocer, and he threw a rotten tomato at someone, and he missed and hit his future wife. Straight in the face. Bosh. And she went over and, apologized and mopped her down, and they fell in love. Ain't that no way?
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Well, it is really. I know as blokes, we're not supposed to talk like that, but I think you you want everybody. Look at me. It's the hundredth show. I'm going all sentimental. But you do, don't you? I mean, I don't go around saying, by the way, I think you should all fall in love, but I hope everybody does at least once or twice in their life. It's usually at least twice. But usually in your teenage years when it's the most important thing ever in the whole world. Right? And it all falls apart and you're devastated and you don't even know what's going on. I I had one of those moments when I was about 19. It took me about three weeks to understand that it was no big deal, but at the time, it was.
It seemed to be the biggest deal ever in my life. And anybody out there had that experience?
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I'm assuming you have. Oh, yes. Yes. I had that experience, but imagine, if that tomato hadn't hit my grandmother, I probably wouldn't be here. Mhmm. So it's thanks to that rotten tomato that missed and hit my grandmother because he might not have got into conversation with her. And, the way and the way my dad met my mom was very romantic. He was in the war Yeah. And his best friend dropped a picture on the floor. And my dad picked the picture up, and he's he suffered from shyness. My dad was a very shy man. And he's always says A bit like you. Film star, isn't it? A bit like you take after your daddy. You're a bit shy, aren't you?
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Yeah.
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And he said, your favorite film star? He said, no. It's my sister. And he said, oh, she's attractive. Well, certain events came along, came along, came along, and and what happened is when they came back to England in preparation for d day Mhmm. It just so happened that they had to go and pick someone up up in Colchester, and they went past my un well, it wasn't my uncle then because I wasn't born. My uncle's house and, he and they dropped something off and then my dad met my future mum. And then Wow. They blossomed and that's it. But my mum was frightened because my dad was going over on d day, and she thought she'd never see him again when she waved him off at the train.
And she thought that's the last I'm ever gonna see him because he's he's the first he's he's gonna be in the first wave in, and they won't survive. But he did. And then along came came I a long time after the war, you see. So, there we go. So that's a little bit of romance for the beginning of the show. But I also I like that. We can talk about these things. It's funny you say that about seeing photographs.
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I got this sent the other day. Did it actually, somebody sent this into the Telegram group. Gotta read it out. Right? It's a photograph of a lady, black and white photograph, looks as it's the turn of the century, early nineteen hundreds. Okay? She looks quite attractive. I mean, it's difficult to tell because it's black and white, but she's slim, trim, bit of a serious face. And the caption says, before dating apps, women used newspaper ads to find distinguished noble men. Let me read you the caption. So it's a nice picture. So if I knew how to actually blast these things out over YouTube, I'd still cock it up. So you'll just have to bear with me. Anyway, it's a radio show there so you use your imagination.
So the photographer went in the newspaper. Here's the caption beneath. I love this. Only daughter of a wealthy coffee planter will marry English nobleman or distinguished American if he is handsome and reasonably young. No French, Italians, Spaniards, or Hebrews need apply. Has a warm heart, small feet, and beautiful teeth. Can dance all night. How appropriate is that for what we've been talking about? That's the bird for me, Eric. Isn't that the for me. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. I'd like to reply that one. Yes. That's lovely. Yes. We're a bit late, I think. We'll probably we'll probably miss the RSVP deadline on that one. But it's cool, isn't it? Yes. Yeah. I quite like that. It is.
Yeah. So there you go. That's how we do. We have big massive photographs in newspapers, all very formal. I just love the directness of the request. Has a warm heart, small feet, and beautiful teeth. Can dance all night. She looks as though she could, actually. She's quite trim all night. Yes. That's it.
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And, what about, I like the lonely hearts column, you know, like, what is it? Lonely widower. Mhmm. First wife died due to eating, poisoned mushrooms. Second wife died due to eating poison mushrooms. Third wife died because she would refuse to eat the poison mushrooms. Sorry to change her
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mind. This is good. As you can see, we're dancing around all these topics tonight, ladies and gentlemen.
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We got a request we got requests from smashing the likes
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yes
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he says Paul Eric can you tell where I can find an audio copy of the hell storm book or anyone else in the chat. Thank you in advance. Yes. I don't get a hard copy.
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Right. Okay. Fire away. Well, the audio book you can get from moneytreepublishing.com.
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That's it. Okay.
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I was gonna say treepublishing.com.
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I actually know the guy that did that. Oh, it's me. So there you go. Yeah. Moneymoneytreepublishing.com. You'll get it. Fourteen hours of hell of the most awful book ever written or certainly one of them. Yes. Yeah. I used to say that to Tom all the time when he was still alive. He passed away around about this no, not this time. Nearly nearly a year ago, he passed away towards the back 2024. Was it? It was. Yeah. Yeah. But I think I mentioned at the time when he passed out when we were speaking, I said, Tom, you've written the worst book in the world. It's the most awful book, you know, but it is. It's certainly amongst the most awful books.
Yes. I hope that helps. The the the Thank you for smashing the likes. Yeah. Great. Glad to be of help. That's cool. That's great. Anybody wants any request, shout out in the chat or anything like that. And again, I'm gonna say, if you wanna call in tonight, you can call in. Okay? So, where do you go? Paul, I don't think I've got it actually up on the, I'll stick it up on the on the, Rumble and YouTube feeds momentarily Yeah. Or at least after the first hour because we'll just have a yak. Yeah. Anyway, moving on to something a little bit more serious here. Earlier in the week, Mark Anthony, who might be even here tonight in one of the I think he is. Hi there. Hi, Mark Anthony. Rumble. Hey. Mark.
Sent this really got my goat, this. There's some things that there's certain people Anyway, this is one of them. Put a post in called the concept of English ethnicity is not evil and this, of course, I agree with that. This on a site called ukreloaded.com. And the interesting thing about it is that it was a comment from a guy called John McTernan. Are you familiar with this person at all, Eric? Have you ever heard of it? I'm not.
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Never heard. Okay.
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Okay. Well, let me just I'll just read you one of the things off his Twitter feed. John, if you go look him up on Wikipedia, you'll you'll get very cross. So basically, he worked for Tony Blair. Right? He's a completely unacceptable human being to me, just like I probably am to him. On one of his tweets recently said, proud to be called a Marxist goon. How about that? Isn't that good? How nice. Proud. What a jolly what a jolly nice chap. I don't Yeah. Yeah. He is. Now, I want to play you a little clip. I've just let me just play you this clip. I don't know if I've ever played it before, but I'm gonna play it now. It's very brief. Hopefully, this will come through. Oh, we might get a few wretched adverts because I've just gone straight to YouTube. Let's have a look here. So you're looking to grow your business. Yeah. You don't have time. Shh. I'll just wait until the adverts run out. I'm just waiting for this clip to come up. It's only about forty eight seconds long.
Okay. You hear that? Here we go.
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Did the miners? Yeah. I had a So this is John McTernan
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on GB News a couple of months ago when the farmers thing was going on. Listen to this if you can. We can do to them what Margaret Thatcher did to the miners. So just to be clear, Johnny, you would, what, beat them up?
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No. Clueless I mean, clutter that this industry we could do without.
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So okay. Alright. So this got weird. So you would do to do to farmers what Margaret Thatcher did to minors, which was an you know, she was very heavy handed police tactics followed by what? Pussing them out of business?
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If people if people if if people are so upset that they wanna go on the streets and spray slurry on them, then, we don't need, the small farmers.
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Right. Okay, John. I'm not sure I'll ask a specific if you were just to clarify, you were a former labor special adviser, possibly emphasis on the word former there. But Can you believe that?
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Frightening. It is frightening. If if he had a brain, he'd be very dangerous.
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Yeah. You know,
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Boo. Yes.
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Boo. Yes. Oh, look at that. There's a there's a cross voice from America. It's very difficult for me to, feel anything other than hostility towards a man who expresses sentiments like that. He's absolutely when you see him in the clip, he's a smug, smarmy, emotionally dead hunk of flesh. An absolute I'm sorry. I I don't know what to say now because we've got new freedom laws. So probably, even if I just think I think, I get locked up. We're gonna have to look at this, of course. But he'd written a thing saying that English I can help you there. Well, he said just to go back to the original point, just hold on there, Paul. He said in this article that English ethnicity is evil.
That's what he said.
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I can't believe this. Has he ever heard of the word tree has he ever heard of the word treason? Because that's what he's committing. Because he's actually metaphorically urinating on the graves of our ancestors by saying that. Yeah. So that's treason as far as I'm concerned.
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And And everybody that fought and died Yeah. Of the country.
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Seriously. Yes. Yeah. He he's just No. I can I can help you with that? It's like the Islington set or something. Yeah. Paul, please. Hi, everybody. Welcome to Paul from America. Welcome to the show, Paul.
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Thank you. Glad to be here. Now I can help you with that because anything that you might might think to think to or want to say I mean, I can say it because, this this part of the program is not in not intended to be a attitude or a position accepted by any of the other guests or networks or whatever. I am a national of The United States. My rights and freedoms, my person rights and property are protected by treaty and international law. And I will say whatever I want to say because I can say it irrespective of whatever, statutes, acts, codes, or administrative policy that might be in effect. What I say, it should be no reflection on Eric von Essex or Paul English or anybody else on this program or on this or any other network, WBM three two four, Global Voice Radio, Eurofolk radio dot com, radio soapbox. It doesn't matter. It's all on me. Come and get me. My rights person and property are protected by treaty and international law. So whatever I wanna say, I will say, and that guy is an absolute idiot. He's a fool, and, he should not be given a platform of any kind.
Nope. Not even not even writing his dribble on paper airplanes and sailing him off of street corners. I mean, the guy's ridiculous.
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Yeah. He's an idiot. Yeah. No. I I mean, I don't normally react full on. I think it really woke me up. You know what I mean? You sort of go on, well, we'll just accommodate everything. But there's something about his delivery, the smug look on his face, the fact that he's proud to be a Marxist, which is basically saying, I'm glad I'm mentally ill because that's really it's a mental illness. Right? It is. So, okay. Fine. Well, at least someone's pleased about it. And they use it they use the word ethnicity. I'm not into the word ethnicity. It's simply race. Okay? So for me or tribe. All these there's so many different words to describe basically anything that a child knows that can see with his own eyes or her own eyes. Anyway, I had to write a few comments about it, of course.
So underneath it, it says what on that video, the original title was we can do to the farmers what Margaret Thatcher did to the miners. So I I've rewritten it and I think it should read this. We can do to McTernan what the English peasants did to Cromwell. What do you think, Eric?
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Excellent.
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Excellent. First class. Yes. Excellent. It's just it's called reverso headlining, and everybody should get into the habit of it. When you see these headlines, just switch the nouns or do what you need to do. You'll come up with the reverse our meaning, and it'll be right in line with where you're thinking your heart is every single time. The idea that a man could come out and verbally attack farmers, he might as well say, we're gonna starve you all to death. I mean, that's literally what he's saying.
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I agree. Yes. Is is that yes. Right. Yeah. And we need to get the bowler hat farmer on here because he's been on my show a couple of times,
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and he's How fit is he? At the front end. He's he's a farmer. He'd be quite fit. Can we have a fight between him and John McTernan? I'm serious. Just have a fight. Get a farmer in. Get in there, McTernan. Let's see what you made of, you pansy. And he just needs blatting. I just I mean, it's just Yeah. It's complete it's the worst. And a couple more things I wanted to say, right, because I wrote a couple of things. So I said as well, just in the little thread, the word springs to mind. Do you remember that word? It came up several months ago. Yes. Yeah? It what was it? That's German, isn't it? It means It's German. I'm gonna copy and paste it, by the way, to all you all you lucky chaps and in the, I think I know what it means. Yeah. It may go on. What do you think it means? He who is desperately in need of a fist in the face. That's it. It's a face in need of a fist.
Isn't that great? Face in need of isn't that a lovely term? A face that needs a fist. Yeah. It's just that urban, of course, proper words. You know, we don't we don't we don't use any of those Latin things. We're using proper words here. Well, is it now? Is it it was a a a was it a oh,
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You you said it once. I can't I can't remember it. What was it? You want to say it again?
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Oh, yes, please. Yes. I'm got well, I'm pasting it in so you can all practice your pronunciation, everybody. I've sent it I've sent it to the grumblers in Rumble. Not that they are grumblers. They're fantastic. And I'm sending it over to YouTube. So look that one up. It's backfiefengesagt. Yes. And that came from mister I checked it with mister Anderson, who's gonna be on next week, actually. So Thomas Anderson, he's not been on for quite a while, but I spoke to him, the other day. So Thomas is an author, written an awful lot of books, and we'll be finding out about his English is immaculate. He's the guy that came on and talked about the bell, the Nazi bell. Do you remember? About a year back? Something like that. Yes. Yes. Yep. Yes. The naughty Nazis. Yes. Yeah. So he'll be the guest next week. But there we go. I just want you to know that. And then, also, I want to give you another quote because this sprang to mind as I was thinking about this. Yeah.
Cornillo Zilia Codriano, don't You might not know him. Okay? And, he's obviously frowned upon by the people that would frown upon this. Codriano said this, if I had but one bullet and were faced by both an enemy and a traitor, I would let the traitor have it. Yes. I'm just saying con I didn't say that but Cornelius Cudriano said it. How about this as well? Because I'm really one of a got this guy. This guy really, I found out you can find out on his Wikipedia entry, so I'm only reading stuff that's online. He also well, she's on his bets. In November 2016, McTernan bet blogger Stuart Campbell $100 on a Clinton victory in the two thousand and sixteen US presidential election, which he lost.
Campbell has said that McTernan failed to honor the bet, and Campbell has taken court action against him. Good. I I put thick as s h one t doesn't even come close with regards to this guy. He's an he's a complete and utter buffoon, but then he was appointed by Blair. And, I don't know what you're supposed to do with these people. I I mean, genuinely, I can't they need to be mentally sectioned. You you you you've got to really get them under the mental health act. I I agree with you. I'm serious. What about that? I tell the funniest what I heard, and this was on Facebook. Like, if only I can find his name, people in chat might know him. But when,
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Pol Pot came to power, which was in the nineteen seventies, he is a he was a Scottish,
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Pol Pot Marxist.
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No.
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Scott Pop. Paul Pop was Scottish.
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Hi. Hi. Had a couple of McDonald's up his kilt. I can't do that. There was a yeah. Sorry. I said that a bit wrong, actually. There there was a Scottish Marxist that was so pleased that Pol Pot came to power Mhmm. That he flew over to Cambodia to thank him, you know, to shake his hand. Mhmm. And when he got off the plane, instead of getting a red carpet, they put him in jail because they thought he was a spy, and then they hung him. It's just
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what are you supposed to do with people?
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That's about the one good thing that Pol Pot did, I think.
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He was a nasty piece of work. He really was a horrible creature, Pol Pot. Oh, yeah. Absolutely appellant. But, you know Yeah. They're cut from the same ideological cloth. There's something basically unstable, about them. Really. There is something It's very very dreadful.
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But what gets me, I strongly believe these these people have a hypnotic power. I mean, how did Mao manage to kill almost a billion people not personally but get people they they are such manipulators it's like you could never ever out out maneuver a psychopath You never been a psychopath. Get out of the way of them because they're so brilliant at what they do.
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It's true they are. The way they
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yeah. You you you never be just just make sure you get them as far away from me as you could possibly can. You know? You've heard of a guy have you heard of a guy called Edgar Cayce? Yes. Oh, yes. He was, the bloke who predicted things in his dreams.
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It's an amazing life. Yeah. An amazing life. And I have I've got one book by him, but he spoke at one of the meetings. These papers came out after his death, I think. I can't remember when he died. Was it late thirties or early forties or something like that? Nineteen forties. No. It's in the nineteen forties, late forties, I think. Okay. '45. He was talking basically about what we would say is the psychopathic personality. And he said that that there are human looking humans down here that really haven't got a soul. That's right. Right. And I suspect that that's true.
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I think it is true. Just look at Keir Starmer.
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Well, he I think he must have started off with one, basically. Out of him. Something's happened dreadful for him. You know, if I take a more sympathetic view, you could just go, that's tragic. But the problem is he's in charge of supposedly in charge of the country, and therefore, it's it's not just tragic. It's, it's very, very dangerous. Very.
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Yeah. Well, it's The the reason that psychopaths are so hard to beat is because they are willing to take actions that the people are unwilling to take to to defend their own lives. Mhmm. The psychopaths are willing to take actions to kill the people, And the people won't go to that extreme just to defend themselves. Yeah. They just won't do it. No. So they're slaughtered like sheep.
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Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. It's fun fun fun. So actually, I've got a little I've I've just I didn't think I had any clips. Now I'm just banging around and finding them. You remember Margaret Thatcher?
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You are. Can't forget. I can't can't forget anything.
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This is only fifteen seconds, but I'm gonna it's now because I never know quite where we're gonna go. Some of these clips sort of fit in. This one fits in right now. This is just fifteen seconds. This is what she had to say, I guess, in the eighties, nineteen eighties.
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The single biggest intellectual error during my political lifetime has been to confuse freedom with equality. In fact, equality, being an unnatural condition which can only be enforced by the state, is usually the enemy of liberty.
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There you go. There is it can only be enforced by the state. I've you know, I'm always banging on about this word equality. There's no such thing except through force. And then it's not equality, is it? Because someone's an enforcer and someone's the enforcer or whatever your status is, the guy being beat up. Yes. It's complete joke. And that's what Marxists are all about. The pursuit of equality is literally death to everybody else. It's that's what it means. That's right.
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Look at Martin Luther King. He was a he was a brilliant actor. Yeah. That's the ending. He's a very clever actor, but the speech that he gave He liked brothels too. You know? He loved brothels. I didn't know I didn't know do you know he liked drinking broth? He did. Yeah. He loved he loved Yeah. Like, four pints of brothels. Up. Yeah. About
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four pints of brothels. Down the queen's legs, though. They won't let him in.
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Get out of here. I thought we I thought we went in there. In the first. Yeah. But, yes, there's a nice picture of him, with his handlers next to him. I won't say any more than that. That a very famous picture of him with yes but he was just an actor that's all and he just read that just read the words very clever actor of that
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Aren't we scathing about all these amazing people in history? Aren't we aren't we awful about them? Shouldn't we pay them all to respect people? Aren't we terrible about them? There are no really.
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There are no amazing people in history. There are evil, wicked, despicable people that have been presented to us as deities so we can, carve out an entire month for them just to just give them their special day and give them their all at Columbus. Christopher Columbus? Oh, he was just a prince. You know? Just ask a Native American who Christopher Columbus was. I don't think they're gonna say, we worship him on his own day.
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No. No. No. No. They're not gonna say that. But
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there's there's lots of them like that, isn't there? I mean, you you think everybody has held I mean, look at the Dalai Lama. The Dalai Lama oh, his marvelous. The real one can't stand him. I believe he's, I believe he's on the payroll of the CIA, allegedly, I believe.
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Is there a possibility? Whatever. I've got I've I've got an anecdote about the Dalai Lama. It's not I mean, it's actually it's silly. I I an old friend of mine, who's also passed away about nine years ago, in Peru. So the location was exotic but the manner of his passing was not quite so good. However, wonderful guy I'm sorry with that. Close friend of mine. Well, you don't know these guys. We've all it happens all the time. He, before he left England because he was to go over there wait. He lived in England all his life. But I remember him telling me, you know, we have a thing over here. If you're in America, you might know of it. Maybe you have something similar called the pub quiz.
They have one, don't they? Every week at the Queen's Lakes, don't they? I think, Eric. That's right. That's right. Yep. Yes. That's it. That's when they're open. Yeah. Yeah. The pub That that this joke about the Queen's Legs is gonna run and run, isn't it? That's what I did there. Yeah. Yes. It is. And,
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Oh, lots more knowledge to get out of that one.
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We've we've barely begun everybody. You're about to bring your bath bag next week. So, anyway, yeah. He was in a pub quiz. Right? And the question he sat with these guys, and he he had a lot of good general knowledge knowledge. He was quite good with all this stuff. His football questions and junk and TV stuff. But one came up and said, oh, question number 32. Who is the spiritual head of Tibet? Who is the spiritual head of Tibet? So this guy next to him writes down dial a llama, which I just like.
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Dial a llama.
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Dial a llama. Hi. Is he there? I've just dialed him up. Now dial a llama. Do you need one? I it's dial a llama. I quite like that. Yeah. It's,
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good lord. What about that engine geyser? What's that? What's that? Engine geyser. It's an engine geyser called fake guru, And he ends up mean sad guru. Sat like when fake guru, but sad guru. Yeah. He's saying he's at the, economic World Economic Forum. Yeah. And he wants to reduce the population. Oh, yes.
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How sad can he get? Do you think do you think they roped him into appeal to that race of people, to that culture? I wonder if they did that, or is it the over in the West, they associate guys with long beards coming from that part of the world with wisdom because I don't, by the way. Any bloke that stands on one leg in a jungle for twenty five days doing this yoga stuff, what is the bloody point of that? It could have been getting on with doing something like getting some plumbing work done.
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So It could have been fixing his shed up. Oh, by the way, Mark Anthony's just said, as your dad used to say no. It's actually my granddad, Mark, used to say that, that John McTernan, needs a bag of hot shit over his head.
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I'm terribly sorry out there in Radio Land. This comes sometimes turns into a slightly vulgar show, and it just did Oh, terribly sorry. Terribly sorry. We are sorry, aren't we? We're terribly, terribly sorry about all this stuff. Yes.
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It's like if Well, I do. If I see an innuendo if I see an innuendo, I I just I just whip it out. I'd, you know, I'd hardly say any innuendos. So
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See seeing as you open the door, you know, granddad, he lived to be a 106 years old. And, he had when he was, like, 22 years old, he met this old farmer. And this old farmer told him, sprinkle a little bit of gunpowder on your eggs every morning, and you'll live to a ripe old age. Well, granddad, he did that religiously every single day. He lived to be 106. He had eight strong boys. He had 21 grandchildren. He had eight great grandchildren and four great great children. In mentally, he also left about a 40 foot hole where the crematorium used to be.
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It's quite like that. I like that one. Tonight, isn't it? It's quite like that one. Oh, that's a crack at that one. Oh, that's a cracker. Oh, by the way, Woody Pete says, Sadhguru is a sick gobletist. Oh, you're you're praising him there. And, oh, by the way, well, Andy says apologies, mister English, for lowering
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the tone up. No. It's been quite a long time. Started yet, Mark Anthony. We're gonna have to go quite away yet. It's early days. Yeah. Don't worry. I forgot we're before before the 09:00 watershed. I do apologize,
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to the people who go, oh, you're listening in. But, now the thing is is that, my granddad got it right. He wants a bag of what's it over his over his head or in his face.
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But how do these people get into such prominent positions? That's what I question. The main reason I think they may have financial assistance from a slightly hidden quarter myself, Eric, but call me a conspiracy theorist. Yes. I yes. I tend to that view. Really. I do tend to that view. Rather like Idi Amin's
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son was talking about this week. I don't know if you saw that. I did. Brilliant. But Absolutely spot on. And Yeah. Idi Amin, I I'm beginning to re question because I was old enough to remember when he was in power, and the propaganda was thickened coming over a thick and a lot of people have said there's a lot of rubbish that are said about him. I do not know.
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Well, where did we hear it all from? Where did we hear it all from? The BBC. Yes. Okay. So I'm not saying he was a good guy. No. Didn't he eat his enemy? According to them, they used to put his enemies in the fridge and eat them, didn't he?
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Well, that's why all good dictators doing it. I mean, that's Well, you're a bit peckish.
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You're you're victorious in the battle, and you That's right. Your cupboards are a bit there. Sorry. Sorry. I'm gonna have to wake you up. Yeah. A bit much. That's not true. I'm gonna have to wake you up. Yeah. A bit much. That's not true. Actually, speaking of cannibalism true it is. Speaking of cannibalism, which I do all the time, it's a dreadful thought, isn't it? Actually, I'm getting a bit peckish as we're talking about this, but, do you remember that, I caught this the other day. So it this is called jumping around from one topic to another with no particular structure type show. Okay? So it's just the way it's gonna roll. But my son said, hey, dad. Have you seen this? And I said, no. And he put it on. It was an interview with a survivor from the Argentinian rugby crash. Do you remember that?
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Oh, yes. Yes. Well, they were all outwit each other.
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It's absolutely what an interview. It's horrendous. Abs well, it's a him as a man, this guy that's about there were 45 of them crashed and seventeen came out alive. So there's about twenty five died. Something like that. Right? And he but his testimony, it's about forty minutes, this interview, is absolutely gripping because he's very calm. He's a very distinguished and handsome looking guy now in his sixties. Really, very striking. Sort of a very, like, you would imagine a sort of mature statesman looking. Wonderful guy. Absolutely wonderful. And he's just talking about how his life literally changed, and what happened in the crash, and how their thoughts turned to survival.
And the the whole struggle for it. Can't recommend it highly enough. And, they didn't sit down and sort of cook them all up. That's not what they that's not what they did and he was just talking about hunger. He said, you can go for a few days and be hungry. He said, this isn't like that. This is that your entire body is absolutely craving food. It's almost he said, it's one of the most terrible terrible things. You want to just eat anything. Your body is just screaming out to get sustenance into it. And, they they ate the pilot.
How about that? They ate the pilot. No. Of course. No more flying for him. But I think, they were a bit cross because the pilot did make an error and that's why they ended up it was a it was pilot error. He he misread these coordinates and, so he actually landed the plane in the wrong part, thought it was 45 miles further on, and dropped the plane down into the, the early part of the so they were only about 45 miles away from civilization, but it's so cold up there. They might as well have been 45,000 to to start off with. And they called the search off after about ten days where there's they've and some of the things that they had to get up to is it's amazing. Absolutely an amazing story, and, it changed all their life. Now there's a picture at the end of the survivors. They're all still alive, about 17 of them today.
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Quite an amazing tale. If you like that sort of thing psychological that's right. I think the psychological effect that had done them, though, I mean, how they could have got over that. I mean, it must be in a some form of shock. Although, it depends on the individual because this is the subject I was gonna go on to later on, that shock. Mhmm. Because I think most of the country is in shock. Because something like that would put you into shock. Survival situation. We
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had a similar thing like that here.
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It's there's a Sorry. Sorry. Sorry. Sorry. Sorry. That's very simple. Did you say that? Well, it was a
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It was it was the Old West. It was the Old West, and it was on the Oregon Trail. And there was a group of people that were traveling the Oregon Trail, and they went over what's called Donner Pass. Right. And they, they had, problems, and, they couldn't go any further, and they ran out of food. And what they would do is they actually, like, voted as to who would who they would eat next. And they had turned I mean, some people had turned to cannibalism to survive, and it was it was, understood that the group would vote on who the weakest and the least likely to survive the trip would be, and then that would be who they would eat. It was called the Donner Party. Look it up. Google it. It's horrible. It's absolutely horrible. How do you spell Donner?
D o n n e r, delta Oscar
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November November echo Romeo. This is a bad joke, you man. I don't want to tell it.
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No.
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Paul, are you gonna gonna ring out what? What? Billy Billy Silvers. I don't know. Listen. It's made me thinking of Donner kebabs. I wonder if that's where it came from.
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You know, it's that's awful. Never done it. Because it used to be the Royal Navy all the time. Well, it did. Oh, that that was that was shipwrecks and everything out in a raft after a battle and everything, floating around the Atlantic. I mean, bloody hell, what you're gonna it's just unbelievable, really. So there you go. Anyway But are you gonna read out what Billy Silver said? I'm going to you're the you you are the you you read it out. So Billy Silver gets comment of the year so far. This is we're just gonna have to go back to the last stand about. I mentioned, of course, they crashed in the Andes and the guy that they ended up eating was the pilot and Billy Silver said
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They ate the pilot. That's probably why they crashed. So I said, like, funny boat.
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It's so bad, but it's so funny. Look. I'm trying to fly the bloody plane.
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Go ahead. Hey. Give me that give me that arm back. I need that. I need that.
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Stop putting salt and pepper on my arm, will you?
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You know, I wouldn't be sneezing so much if you'd keep that damn pepper away from my face. What are you doing?
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Are we, are we really we're really plunging the we're really getting into bad taste territory, aren't we? Pun intended. How can a how can a show be so lighthearted and so dark at the same time? I think all English live is the English way. English way, Paul. This is what we do over here. Well It's called gallows humor. We're just absolutely laughing our socks off as we get shot to pieces. Well, that's been rough. But his head get cleaned off. All that kind of stuff. Yeah. Yeah. So it's, it's just the way it is over here, mate. That's what that's what people are like. We're absolute scum. Yeah. Aren't we, Eric? I know I am. Well, you sir certainly are. Yeah. But it it's
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quite honestly, though. I mean, that's what's got us through hardship, this gallows shoe, quite honestly.
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Yeah. Well, right. Yeah. There's been a lot of gallows around, hasn't there? There's been a lot of gallows around.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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Oh.
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Anyway, look at all the Well, what about that gravestone up north very quickly? That's see seriously, you can go and see it, pick the photograph of it. Wherever you may be, let your wing go free because that's what killed me that's actually on a gravestone up north like you see I think it's up in say that again right here say it again on a gravestone he said wherever you may be let your wind go free as that's what killed me. Wind? That's on a gravestone. Yes. Let your wind go free. God, because that's what killed me.
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Oh, boy. That's the way you deal with it. That's the way you deal with it. Yeah. Fantastic stuff. That's brilliant. Anyway, look, we're we're we've raced through the first hour down here at the Queen's Lakes and, so welcome again everybody to the show. I hope you're all warming up. You got a glass of your favorite tipple. Mine's currently a pathetic sort of water and apple juice but I I am I am thinking about a glass of Chablis or something like that. Anyway, let's have a song, shall we? We do have a song Yes. And, seen as other theme is happiness, because we're always happy here, I want to play you this song which is a very happy song by one of Eric's favorite singers.
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Yes.
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Here it comes. Here it comes. So we'll be with you after this little song, and sing along now everybody. It's all about happiness.
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It's a half half happy day. It is. For you and me, for us and we, all the cows have rolled away. It's a half half happy day. The sunshine brighten the world all right. It's a half half happy day. Four and twenty sunbeams are dancing round my face. Four score and 20 more are dancing every place. It's a half, half, happy day. Got our heads on the run. Let's shout it out so everybody can hear it. We found our place in the sun. It's a half, half, It's a half, half, happy day. For you and me, but I'll send we all the clouds have rolled away. It's a half, half, happy day.
The sunshine's bright and the world's alright. It's a half, half, happy day.
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Three four eight.
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So just in case you weren't clear, it really is a hap hap happy day. And, I'm assuming, Eric, you feel a lot happier having heard I know. That song. Yeah.
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Yeah. You know, they've shown they were made during during the depression or when people were down to cheer people. You mean the 02/2020?
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Happy?
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The depression. Yeah. February. The 2000 But could you think of any records today that really cheer you up? I can't think of any that cheer you up. There's none. No. Not at all.
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Well, there's room for the new record label called cheerful records. Everything's happy.
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Yes. Yeah. We we should have that. Yeah. Because, I got one on my mind. Where was it? Where was it there? Marty Wilde made one about a place in Wales. What was it called now? Oh, oh, do you remember it? Oh, sixties, late sixties. Right. And he thought it's such a weird name, that he wrote a song about it when oh someone in chat will find it, I can't I'm sure it must be somewhere. Marty Wilde 1968 he made a hit with it. And it's a real happy song. We used to have lots of happy songs, but,
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it's so sad. I I didn't now. Don't mention his name, but I haven't mentioned who sung that song, have I, in the show so far? I haven't No. I don't know. No. No. No. I don't know what to say because Well, I can't say it. I don't know who he is. Oh, good. Good. Good. That's even better. Yeah. So, tonight's, pub quiz. First question tonight's pub quiz. Winner gets a Fockem Hall penciled courtesy of the Phantom postal service from Fockem Hall. You'll just have to imagine it turns up. Who was it that sung that song? Who was it? What was the name of the singer the singer who was singing that song?
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Peter Glaze. Was it Peter Glaze? Nope. From Cracker Jack? No. It wouldn't be him.
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No. I don't know. I mean, the show's gonna go awfully quiet if we have to sit here and go.
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Do you by the way, do you remember Peter Guise from Tracker Jack? He was embarrassing. He was like like the the drunk uncle that turns up at a wedding.
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I think that's the reason why you don't forget him, really. He he wore the he was sure. Wore those little round glasses and was always eager around, who was it? Crowther or something? David Crowther or something? Yes.
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Or was it Leslie Crowther?
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Leslie Crowther. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. And,
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he was the most irritating person you could ever wish to think of. Something about him.
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You didn't like him then? You didn't like him? No. No. No. I wouldn't eat him. I think he was sort of lots of lots of energy married up to insufficient talent, really, which is always a little bit awkward when someone's full of confidence and very loud and all over the place, and no one's really getting much entertainment value from it. A bit like this show at times, really.
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Hey. Feels fun, actually.
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There you go. Just did a bit of self assessment, and we worked it all out. So it's all done. Who is who is the singer then? Who is the Phantom singer? Well, I'm waiting. I don't know. We'll give people like, I'll give a count. They've got twenty five seconds. No one's written in. So I'm gonna repeat the question. We just played, it's a hap, hap, happy day. Someone's don't go to the search engines or pick up your AI out of your back pocket Uh-huh. Steady. This is whether it's in your brain. I mean, this is all quite pointless in a way because you can just find out anything. Who was it?
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Alice Gorgias has said the queen's legs will run on and on. Sorry.
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Well, while we're waiting for a response, one more little tidbit. Yes. Cool. One one one more little tidbit on the Donner party. There was actually a movie in 2009 that was made on the Donner party. Oh, wow. And how who would like to guess what the also known as title of that movie was? Another trivia question.
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Gobbler's Gulch. I don't know. No.
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Let's see if anybody in the rumble chat comes up with it. No. What was the a k a of the movie The Donor Party?
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Well, I'll put you all out of I'll put you all out of your misery. I know it's all you're on tenterhooks, but that was Arthur Askey.
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Alright. Really? Arthur Askey.
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And my I just wanna let you know, my dad my dad hated Arthur Askey.
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So did my dad. My dad couldn't stand him. He said he he he bloody detested him. My dad Yeah. My dad. That that's something in common there. Yeah. He he actually switched it off when he came on. He couldn't stand it. Too. He came.
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Yeah. He just did great. We might we might as well have been brothers, Eric. It's just amazing. Yeah. Every he came on to Parkinson a couple of times, and he every time he came on, he always used to sing that song, Busy Little playmates. Hello, playmates. He did that busy little bee and go, I'm a busy little bee. And my dad used to go, bloody busy little bee. I just turned it off. Play. It's so funny. I hate that bloke. He's not funny. And he he wasn't he wasn't really. But, anyway, he made us happy momentarily until we found out who he was. Yes. And now the song's rubbish, everybody. So we hope you didn't enjoy it. That's right.
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And and Mark Anthony's come up with the goods. Thanks mate he always comes up with a fantastic art it was comes up the goods said the song that I was talking about by market Marty Wilde is Abba Gavenny.
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It's a happy song is it?
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Yeah. It's about Abergavenny. Yes. Alright. Okay. We're going to Abergavenny, and it's it's I mean, what a weird name of a place, Abergavenny.
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Well, Welsh names are very distinctively Welsh, aren't they? Have I got any? That's right. They are. They're very Apparently, Welsh is, similar to Hebrew, isn't it? To Hebrew or something? They can read Hebrew. They can read Paleo Hebrew Yes. And they can read hieroglyphs. I I mean, I when I I don't mean all the Welsh people today, but those that are familiar with the actual Welsh tongue. I mean, it probably must be pockets now, a bit like, when the Cornish language finally disappeared. But, maybe not because there has been I mean, I remember in the seventies, there was a big thing on the BBC. Don't they have what is it? Clyde Cymru or Cymru or whatever it is. Yeah. But there's actually a Welsh language, station, which I think is great, by the way. I'm not you know, so if you're Welsh, you know, I've got Welsh blood. My grandma was Welsh. She was an Edwards.
Or she she her mother was or something. So I'm about a sixteenth Welsh or something like that. Well, part Welsh at all. Yeah. It's probably why I like quite like singing. La la la la la. And there was actually some talk on the chat about a week back about male Welsh voice choirs, and they are fantastic. They're absolutely brilliant. You know?
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That's why when I was a kid, I used to get the Welshies.
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What does that mean then?
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Diarrhea.
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It's a good job we're in the it's a good job we're in the pub and not broadcasting this. That's what I can say. Holy moly.
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Alright. Well, I'm I'm gonna put people out of their misery too. The the Okay. Alternate title of the movie, The Donner Party, was simply famished.
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Oh. Famished. Oh, that's a bit much, isn't it? That's a bit much. Good heavens.
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A Woody Pigeon is a there's a Welsh town called a Biggawilly. And meet admittedly, it isn't written like that. A Biggawilly. But, what about that film that was made about whales in Hollywood called was it Al something Al Deep? Oh, what was it? What was it called now? Al Something in our valley. I agreed it. Our green is our valley. That's it. It's my valley. Mhmm. And, it was Americans trying to put on Welsh accents. And, Roddy MacDowell, mate, was that was the first film he did. He's about 13. And it
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Oh, I hate that guy.
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Yeah. He was in golf. He was in, monkey films, wasn't he? Planet of the Apes.
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Yes. Planet of the Apes. In dog films, he was with Lassie, wasn't he? That was the crack, would he? He he was with in all those Lassie films. Yeah. I never I never liked the Lassie films. They just they were even as a young boy, prone to sentimentality, even I noticed that there was so much of it, I couldn't breathe. It was just a little bit too much.
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Yeah. And do you know there's about 27 lasses? Mhmm. There's 27 lasses, and there were females, and it's supposed to be a male. So that's the first trans
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dog that I shared on film. No. No. Actually, they were Lassie was supposed to be female, but most of the dogs were male.
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Oh, but around all the way around. That's backwards. Yeah. And did you know that that breed of dog is the most damaged out of all the out of all the dogs?
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Why is it? That's most stupid. A collie? It's a A collie dog?
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Collies are not very bright.
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They're about six or two short planks. I mean, are they they're not named after cauliflowers, are they? It's spelled c o l l I e. I thought it was a collier dog or something. Yes. But then, what I'm talking about, I don't know anything about dogs really, except they got four legs and they and bark a bit. That's about it. Yeah. So they're they're herding.
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They're herding dogs. So really, all they need to know is how to get a sheep motivated to go where they wanted to go. Yeah. They usually do that by nipping them in the back of the leg. But, I had a Shetland sheepdog and a Siberian husky at the same time. Right. And, the Shetland sheepdog, he was a pretty smart boy. He was well trained, and he was cute, and he was small. He was too small to be a show dog even though he was show quality. But it was the the Siberian husky that actually knew how to get in trouble. We went we went to the home improvement store. We were gone, like, fifteen minutes when we came back.
Bandit, and, yes, that was the dog's real name, Bandit, had found the two pounds of rib eye steaks on the kitchen counter, and they were gone. They were gone. We weren't even able to find a wrapper.
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And I think sheep dogs we were gone like Sheep dogs are amazing. I mean, it's the only dog I'd really want, and I'm absolutely the least fit person on the world in the world to have it because it's got to be put to work. There's a fantastic clip. It must have gone viral. It's up in the Yorkshire Dales, of course. Muddy sort of track going off into a field. This guy these dogs just sat there looking at him. He goes, so it's just like one word, like go. Right? You just see this dog pelt off into the distance. Camera's just sat there. It disappears just slightly over the brow of this hill. You wait in about twenty thirty seconds. Suddenly, there's about 100 sheep. This one dog, right, is basically moving a 100 sheep. They all come down. It's just so impressive.
It's just and they it's the bond that they have with the guy and they love to work and you love to see him work and it's just fabulous. It's absolutely meant they're very very bright. I remember I was up at my brother's about fifteen years or so ago for a party. There was a guy that this is up in Yorkshire, I was back up there. There was a guy that was just taught and he said, oh yeah, he said I had one. He said, it was just too smart. I said, what do you mean? He said, well, we used to we thought it was going out at night and so, and just going off and doing its own stuff. He said, so I put a lock on the gate and all this sort like a latch key lock, not a a lock, not one that you put a key in but, what do you call it? A latch gate, you know?
Yeah. He said, so I I I got we got up one night. It's about 04:00 in the morning. It's like it's summer. Dawn's gone dog. He said, the dog crept out, goes up to the gate, gets up there, opens the door, comes back and shuts it. So they didn't even know it had gone. And then one day, it it actually went and caught a train. It went and caught a train. His dog got on a train and and they found it. They got a phone call because he had a tag a collar around it. They said, yeah. We your dog's obvious he's just got off a train in Skipton or somewhere. He'd gone about 15 miles on the train. That's a dog that knew how to get around a bit. It's very impressive, isn't it? It's very impressive. That's very Too delightful. Yeah. But it is. Street dog trials and never say which dog was guilty, do they? Because you said it on, on television, you know? Yeah. That's That's rough justice, isn't it?
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Yeah. Oh, dear. You started it. Kingston Whitler said, have you noticed how on TV and radio I don't know. I don't have a TV. They celebrate Welsh, Scottish, and Irish music. Yep. Folk music, but never English. English folk music is fantastic, and as an Englishman, the instruments resonate. There's a natural vibration to it that warms the heart. You know you are home. Yes. I agree with you. Well, it's Catherine Tickle, isn't it? She plays, like bagpipes, but they shove underarm. You've seen those bagpipe things? They're very weird.
Very different to the Scottish ones, the Northumbrian pipes. That's Catherine Tickle. Who else is there? But, no. You don't hear English folk music very much. Don't hear at all.
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There's some here. So that was from Playford. Yeah. You remember my anecdote about dancing a few years ago?
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Yes.
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That's what they were playing all night. Really? That stuff. That's Playford. Yeah. Who wrote compiled all this stuff in the sixteen hundreds. Actually, the guy that I met, Coleman, not that he'll be catching this, but if he is, hi, Coleman. He just emailed me the other day. I we've not I've just been busy. I think his first email I've had from him two years. Get your finger out, mate. No. I hadn't written to him either, but, he's, he plays that stuff. He's from Chicago of Irish descent, and, he plays it. And it's interesting. Just to back you up, Kingston Whitler, he he sent me all these videos of going around The States playing all this old this type of folk music with these organized dances. They're really Beautiful. Very Yeah. They're really beautiful. It's really good and he said to me when we were as I got he said, look I play all of the stuff. I play the Irish and all this stuff. He said, but the best to me is the English stuff. I said, really?
And of course it was embarrassing because I'd not really listened to it. I couldn't have named I couldn't have said the word Playford to him because I didn't three or four years ago when we met. And she's probably a bit longer than that. And, but it's an amazing story about all that stuff and there really is something yeah It's difficult to start off with to the modern ear because you're used to a din right and being overpowered by stuff and much more dramatic and heavy sort of sound and all that. So it's very light and almost thin to the modern ear. But the melodies that are in it and the structures are fantastic and they're very dignified and you can begin to sort of smell civilization in the in the whole thing. So that's what we're gonna have to do at the Fockham Hall Festival.
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I 100% agree with you there because I am sick of well I was in my car the other day and so car dropped next to me and all I could do was what is it And this chap, it's not music. It's just a loud drumming beat like savages do, you know.
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Have you have you found that? You know, do you get that Yeah. I know exactly. Where you are. Is it yes. Yeah. I just thought your comment earlier, Eric, was such I'd not really thought of it that way, that there's very little happy music made. Everything's dramatic. Everything is that something really intense is about to happen. We're just being so we think it is. Music's incredibly powerful. I mean, it's off the charts powerful as music. It really is. It is. No. Couple of little comments here though, just backing up. Kingston Whitland went on to say about the Playford stuff. He says, there's a natural vibration to it that warms the heart. You know you're at home. Yep. I do. I know exactly what you mean. I agree. Absolutely right. And, and you know what this means, Eric? Is that if we do have dancing at the Fockham this Fockham Hole Festival Yes.
You're gonna have to dance, which of course is gonna make your father turn in his grave. Oh, no. Right? Sorry about that. And we're gonna have to get a darn we're gonna have to get a dance master, one of the guys that knows all the steps. They're called callers, I think. Who's gonna have to boss us all around and tell us what to do. That's gonna be that'd be hilarious, actually. That'd be such a good fun, wouldn't it? But you but you think they'll say,
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do you think the spirit of my father will come down and say, excuse me, is is he queer? No. I don't think he is. He might be queer. I'm not too sure. Excuse me. Are you queer? No. No. No. He's just trying to dance. No. No. He's quite drunk.
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Right now. Music. Yes. He's dancing.
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Oh. Is he a queer? He dances. He's quite drunk. He's not queer. He's just very few.
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I'd have to be drunk to dance. By the way, that one too many. Doug Aitley said Mark Aitley said it. He said, I bought my wife one of those sheepdog bras for her birthday. It's really good. It rounds them up and points them in the right direction.
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Oh gosh. This is a really good pub. I'm coming back to this one. This is a good pub.
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Oh, good one. No. It but really, there is something about, what makes me laugh is a violins singing the white cliff. Was it the blue be blue birds over the White Cliffs Of Dover? There's no blue birds over over over the White Cliffs Of Dover because that record that song was actually written by an American that never been to Dover in his life.
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You think they'd rearrange the lyrics, wouldn't you? Yeah. There were fat birds over I don't I don't know what they could have called it really. Yeah. I'm going near there, actually. Of time.
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Mhmm. It's the beginning of time. Music has been to connect to Earth, to connect to spirit, to connect to God, and to actually resonate with the resonant frequency of the organs. Music is supposed to be an uplifting, a healing, and healthy thing to expose yourself to. And what they did in 1940 was they changed from a four thirty two to a four forty, and then they started working on the lyrics. And, oh my god, then came ramp, you know, where they're trying to convince us that talking about, bitches and blowing a hole in the hose and all that shit is music? No. I don't think so. Nope. It's just negative. It's it's sub it's subliminal programming. It's subconscious deterioration of your very, very soul, and that's what we're exposing ourselves to. I agree with you. Do it.
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But Yeah. Alex Golgis has said, and I agree here. Well, she said, and I think we're getting throat close to this. Sorry to be a pain chaps, but may we please have a few solutions to our current situation? I feel like a sitting duck. Cheers. Well, one of the solutions, I believe, is to try and, shouldn't say this, but we have a better, shall we say, he who wins the airwaves has won. And our enemy controls the airwaves we don't I think we should control the airwaves and then we can pump out lovely English music like that and we can that is the the way forward is getting control. It's like a game of chess. We've gotta get to the center of that board. I'm a master at center of the board, and we're not. And
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and never forget that all politics is local. Get with your friends. Get with your neighbors. Local communities. Bring yourselves together with such a tight bond that they cannot break you apart because that is what they are trying to do. They are trying to separate people because as herd animals, humans can accomplish great things. Unless they're alone in the woods, they are fodder for the foxes.
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Yours, Tom. Together with your neighbors. Yeah. Well, if we look at everything since 1945, music being a main strand, it's been to bring that about. I mean we we come back to this topic, repeatedly and we will continue to do so because it's important. The family is the pinnacle of civilization. I'm just gonna say that because it is. And therefore, the the higher the quality of families and more people that are involved in high quality families either as parents and or as children the better for for for us all. And you're right about the airwaves and about writing and about festivals. It's simply I think to a great degree we have to find a way to reassert our culture. I'm so glad that we talked about the English funk music actually because I've got about four hours of Playford music which which I need to break up into the tracks and we can start to run them on soapbox in between.
That's why we run the old stuff. There's a reason for it. Okay? I know that everybody wants the modern stuff or at least I'm told that, but there's no point even going there. I mean it's just it's not good. I've even heard Well I was listening to Geoff Rents earlier today. They were talking about the reception that people are giving to AI music and they're all finding it lovely because it's scientifically designed now. It's dead really. It's a dead thing, but it's scientifically designed to sort of work on certain emotion sets and key sets within you and they know what they're doing. It's like the whole world's gonna become an algorithm and it's frankly not much fun. That's why I think we talk about tactile things here like candles and old music, and clothes, things that connect you into a much healthier way of living.
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I agree I agree with you, and I I think that, when we I think we reached our peak in music around about nineteen seventies when we had what was called progressive rock. Now what that was I mean, when you look at look at that record, Marrakesh Express, how clever that is, how they put that together. That was a very clever and, do you remember a group called Focus? Do you remember that? Where they got classical music and put it to a
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That's the one?
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Yes. That's it. Jan Jan Ackerman, who could really make a really knew how to play the old guitar, those people, they've reached their peak. And then now what we got, rubbish. I was gonna say it's crap, but that'd been rude.
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Well, it's just it's it's just a business like the movie business is more of a business. That's why you just get all these sequels and all the films are the same and all the plots are shallow and people in my view, people read things into modern films that are simply not there. It's tripe piffle. Most of it is completely rubbish. But I want to just go back to what you said Paul about rap music, which of course is it betrays the heritage of Afro American music if that's what I'm supposed to call it. I'm not trying upset anybody. I'm just, you know, what I'm talking about. It really does, because there were a lots of really really good stuff like Louis Jordan and his timpani five or whatever it was called, creating jump music and all sorts of things. But if you look at it, it's a movement towards a more animalization of the dancing process. This was by design as well. It took a long time to lead into it. I'm not blaming it, I'm just pointing it out. But the other a point came up who was I listening to the other day?
Dellingpole. James Dellingpole was interviewing somebody about something. This is only a small part of the show. It wasn't about this. It was an observation that heavy metal was to white kids what rap music has been to black, and I completely agree with that. I went through a period of I could never ever listen to that stuff. I liked heavy rock where there was a degree of instrumentalization. I'm 14, 15, 16, 17, 18 that kind of age. I thought much of it was fantastic. It was pretty it was the soundtrack to my youth whether I liked it or not and I didn't I liked it but I didn't like much of it. The stuff I liked I really liked. Everybody said listen to this crap crap crap crap. I hated Black Sabbath just to let you know. Sorry if you're an Ozzy Osbourne fan. I couldn't stand all that stuff. It's turgid. It's a downer.
It is dark. Their name's dark. I thought, what are you doing? Is it all to be cool or something? And everybody started dressing in black. And I'm going, nah. I don't want anything to do with this. It's not exhilarating. And that's what heavy metal music is to me. It is not exhilarating. It's not heavy at all. It's just just loud. Rubbish. Well, it's just you know, it's just guys with guitars go, look at the size of my amplifier. I'm playing power chords for four hours going, yeah alright mate, I'll come back. Now for example, although we don't want to get a if I take Pink Floyd and you look at the whole array, that's a different kettle of fish. It's a totally different kettle of fish. It's like orchestral music using modern instruments.
It's it's a much richer experience. So I you know you have to finesse with these sorts of things and and musicians are a result of the age that they live in and the technologies of musical instruments that they live in. But what we've seen I think just like with smartphones and everything is the more advanced the technology's got the less advanced the more retarded the music has become. It's actually because everybody thinks they can be a musician, you know, everybody thinks they're equal to everybody else. You're not. I don't even want it. The idea of a handful of brilliant musicians being known is a is how it should be, isn't it? They're sort of like they're held up by everybody else. You go every now and again exceptional talents turn up and it's worth everybody to recognize it and appreciate it when it turns up not to be sort of have this guff pumped into your head twenty four seven. I mean, I couldn't listen to radio in the seventies and the eighties for music. I mean, I never listened to it. It was just exhausting. I I couldn't understand how a DJ. I can't I can't to this day. Consider and just play record after record after record for three hours. Again, driving you and do it five days a week. Doesn't it drive you mad? I mean I know.
You know, music was like a tree. Don't you think music was a tree at work? I go Yes. I'd come home, I spent a lot of money on a hi fi when I was about 18. I mean, it cost me a lot. It cost me all my wage packet. Right? I've still got the amp to this day. Right? It cost me £220 in 1970. Is that right? £220 was an enormous amount of money. I was only earning I'd say it. A week. Right? It was like four months wages. And, I've still got it and it's lasted. It's absolutely brilliant and I put things on and all my mates went into this stuff and it I guess it all depends what, you know, that's what we did. That's what we did back then, but we thought it was the coolest thing going and it was in a way. It's fantastic. Drinking coffee, playing risk, listening to records, shouting at one another, playing pylon.
Oh, those are the days. What an old fart I am. But it was great. Do you remember it Really good. Yeah. But you remember Isso Tomita?
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Isso Tomita was a Japanese bloke who used electronics to do Debussy and classics. And when and when he actually performed on stage, he had his back to the audience. He had all these electronic bits all round and all these all high-tech stuff. Unfortunately, he's dead now, but he, he did one. What is it now? His first album was absolutely mind blowing. He did Debussy, and it was absolutely incredible. Right. And, yeah. So if you can look him up, anybody wants to look him up on the Internet, the engulfed cathedral by Iso Tomita.
Genius. It really is. It it it is a marvelous piece that he did, and he's Japanese. And,
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yeah, it's just so It's it's a difficult topic to talk about because music is it runs deep with all of us, doesn't it? I think it does because there's so much emotional attachment that you might have to a piece of music that might not even be that good, but you heard it at just the right time, you know, when that girl came through the door or you were at that disco that night trying desperately not to dance or whatever you were doing. There are certain tracks that have a very strong, evocative sort of draw on your memory, about all these things.
But, I mean I don't know whether we're gonna win the hearts and minds of our people back by playing Playford music from the sixteen hundreds. Probably not. It's too big a leap in the ear of the day. It's, you know, it's looking at how we arrange all these sorts of things to actually create a cultural diet, as it were, of this different stuff. And I think that there there is definitely a difference. I mean there's a in terms of you only have to go back a few years, like even to the eighties, and there's a sense of buoyancy, not necessarily about the music, but just in life, and a much simpler thing. And is it the case that the smartphone has got now an awful lot to answer for? Because I think it is literally stupefying people. They're becoming stupefied because of the dopamine hit is so high. Everything else is boring. They don't do anything much. Or maybe I'm wrong. Maybe people are doing loads loads more because they're able to organize their life. I don't know what you think. But
[01:32:38] Unknown:
I I don't know about that, but you listen to, for instance, for example, Genesis. They brought out an album. What was it now? Was it selling England by the pound? I think that's the right one. Fantastic. You listen to it. It's mind blowing. And, and you think, wow. Wow. I mean, that is a modern English music. That's modern English. And that all went in the nineteen eighties. It it it it breached a peak in late seventies, and just sort of died in the eighties. What happened in the eighties? Something went wrong with our music, and it just lost. There is some good eighties music, but modern now, there's nothing. Absolutely nothing I can think of. Small hat
[01:33:22] Unknown:
Yes. Small hat wearers took over the music industry. Yes. Yes. That's what happened in the seventies and the eighties. Yes. Music was actually bastardized.
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Yes. Well, go ahead. Plain and simple. Yeah. What do you think of Genesis?
[01:33:38] Unknown:
On board with you. Do do you remember? Genesis. Abs Phil Collins. Yeah. I'd be just, you know, Genesis, awesome. Phil Collins, completely off the hook, extremely talented guy. Extremely talented guy. And that was back when music was actually I mean, there's the difference between the the artists today that you have to use auto tune because without it, they couldn't sing their way out of a bag. And the the bands of the sixties, the seventies, and the eighties, they actually had real talent. They had trained voices. They were good.
And the instruments that they played, they were amazing musicians, plain and simple. And what we are exposed to today is nothing but a bastardized automated, auto tuned piece of crap that before I have even heard stories that before an album is released, they put all of the albums in a room, and then black witches go in there, and they they make can incantations over the albums before they're distributed.
[01:34:50] Unknown:
It wouldn't actually curse the music. It wouldn't surprise me. No one surprised me at all. But go back to Fabio, people can think of someone.
[01:34:59] Unknown:
Can you think of someone whose music you don't like but that you know is good?
[01:35:07] Unknown:
Yeah. Slim Whitman.
[01:35:11] Unknown:
Now you're making me think about Mars Attacks.
[01:35:15] Unknown:
Oh, my no. My ma loves Slim Whitman. She was, we would actually make a pilgrimage every time Slim Whitman was at a place called, Trollhagen. It was a ski area in Wisconsin. We lived in Minnesota. We would actually travel from Minnesota to Wisconsin every time Slim Whitman was appearing at Trollhagen. And Slim Whitman, I mean, he's a good old southern boy, and and he called it ski hogan. He's just funny guy. But my ma absolutely loved him. My ma knew personally Slim Whitman, knew Tammy Wynette, knew Loretta Lynn. She she was on first name basis with all of them. Mhmm. And that that was that was when real music occurred.
[01:36:06] Unknown:
Well And when real music could be heard. I can't stay in Alan Bennett. And when I first started work, you could buy loads of cheap records. See, I I worked in part of London. We get cheap records. And the fellow there, that I worked with, his parents loved, Alan Bennett. But every LP cover had Alan Alan Bennett perspiring. And it was, you know, Alan Bennett perspires in L Los Angeles. Alan Bennett more perspiration in California. And everybody in his hand over the microphone stand we're you know everyone's the same I've been perspiring heavily what was it do people go there to see perspire or something I mean because I couldn't stand his foot breaking a sweat in Belize
[01:36:50] Unknown:
I thought Alan Bennett was the Yorkshire playwright. Bennett. Gold Bennett was the Not Gordon Bennett. You're thinking of someone else. I don't know who you're thinking of. Are you thinking of that? He's an American crooner like in the Frank Sinatra world. Yeah. He died recently. It's not Alan Bennett. That's right. But that's very funny. Alan
[01:37:11] Unknown:
Bennett.
[01:37:13] Unknown:
Oh, yeah. I'll get back to that. No. It's funny. I don't know. It. Yeah. No. No. That's cool. The musician the musician I was thinking of that I don't that I don't like, but oh, I think he's good is Elvis Costello. Yes. Mhmm. And and I say that because I was never really much into lyrics when I was young. But later on, I looked at this and somebody that I knew who was into all the lyrical side said he's one of the best lyric writers ever. I went and read and they're extremely how can I put it? Dense in terms of compressing lots of ideas into very few lines. There's a lot going on with them. My problem with Elvis Costello is I just felt that his voice couldn't carry emotion, and so it left me slightly cold. I know he started off as a punky stuff and some of that stuff, Pump It Up is pretty cool if you're into all that kind of stuff from that period.
And that was the sort of thing we listened to in the common room in the in the 1977 or whatever. But I was never really into punk rock either. But Elvis Costello developed into something much more talented than that, which was mind you, his dad was a big band leader, I think, wasn't he? He used to run a big band in the forties and fifties. So he had it in yeah.
[01:38:22] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. I should Alan Bennett. Hang on Tony
[01:38:31] Unknown:
Bennett is gonna stick now this is so funny Alice gorgeous that Tony Bennett's mundane bits mundane hits because that's how he talks
[01:38:42] Unknown:
That's Tony Bennett when he Very dry. Perspiring in Los Angeles. You know, heavily sweating.
[01:38:50] Unknown:
Alan Bennett.
[01:38:54] Unknown:
He should change his name by depo. Yeah. Because I I can never understand that record. Was it I lost my because, you can imagine we rearrange the words to I lost my heart in San Francisco to no. I won't say. But rather a flatulent version. But you used to sing it as well, didn't you?
[01:39:17] Unknown:
Probably. Yes. But this is a this is a family show even though we're not gonna play it. Show so I go there. Absolutely. Just to, Alice, I was just wondering, by the way, if you have any solutions, if they're brief enough for you to write them down, or anything that you think we ought to talk about, just throw it in there. That goes for everybody, by the way. If you think the things that we ought to jump out and look at I I wanna just jump over now to, banking. Maybe I should have it a special time in the show. Oh, it's half past the hour. It's time for ten minutes of banking, Bilge. I'm slowly getting a little bit more active on X and, somebody put a post I just wanted to read you a couple of things. I actually ended up responding to it. So I suppose it's bigging me up or something but it's not. I just want to just share it really. Somebody put a post up. It's a very funny clip. You probably remember it, Paul. It's of, Johnny Carson, laughing his socks off whilst holding a little baby baby orangutan in his hands. I don't know if you ever remember the clip because this orangutan is very sweet, but he's looking at him really fixedly and he he gets slightly hysterical. Uh-huh. But the headline is banks watching you pay interest on the money they lent you after they printed it out of thin air. Right? It's quite witty actually. I quite liked it. But the first comment Why?
Is very useful, from somebody called Garrett Courtney, who's probably not hearing this, but I like this comment simply because it it opened things up. He said, that's not exactly how how that works. This is simplified but your bank balance is the money the bank owes you. You gave them that money and they loan it to other people. You're paying interest on other people's money that they loan to you, not money that they just made up. Okay? Now as regular listeners here will know, although Garrett's well meaning, he it's completely wrong what he's written. That's not how it works. So my little response was very simple. I said, when you borrow $10,000, the bank creates it out of thin air.
You pay back $10,000 plus interest. Interest is usury, the great bloodsucker. And why The US is $33,000,000,000,000 in debt. Banking is a criminal enterprise. If your business did what a bank did, you would be imprisoned and that's accurate apart from one fact because I heard the news this morning and Paul, I'm glad to inform you that The US debt is now not 33,000,000,000,000 but $37,000,000,000,000. How about that? So between me, right, it went up 4,000,000,000,000 this afternoon. That is meaningless.
[01:41:55] Unknown:
I know. I know. I know. No. The the money is not made out of thin air. The money is made, by securitizing by securitizing bonds and the birth records of the people. The money that gets made out of thin air is the interest that is charged on that money. You know, like, when you buy something, you buy a $10,000 car. You have a promissory note for $10,000 plus what you expect to pay in interest. Well, the economy is actually funded by $10,000 because there's $10,000 worth of bonds created to match that. But the interest that you pay on that note over the life of it, that is money that is made out of thin air. That, it goes immediately to the national debt.
[01:42:45] Unknown:
It does It does. I mean, I'm sure there are probably there are probably even more layers of, smoke and mirrors in the whole process. I think I mentioned a few weeks ago. I've got to look this up because, we've had this, fact running around. It is a fact that all the countries of the world are in debt. So the logical question is who are they all in debt to? They can't be one another if they're all in debt. Of course, the usual answer rightly up to a point is the central bank cartel. Okay. But but the next step in that, which I have to explore a bit more, is that that's not strictly true because I think it's to do with before they can generate the money in this $10,000 example, before they can do that, the thing that releases it is your signature.
In other words, Right. It would seem to me that you create the money unbeknownst to yourself because you're in a state of not knowingness when you're in there thinking that the banks doing it, and the bank are quite happy to let you do it. But what they're basically stepping in, and not allowing that thought to even occur in your head and creating the impression that they've done it. But they can't do it without your signature, which is part of this trust arrangement or you being worth your weight in coal gold or your certificate of lading or whatever you want to call it when you were born through the birth certificate and then they own you. All of this kind of stuff. It's it's literally always a case of the servants are deceiving the true master.
I don't like using the word master, but you get this all the time. All all all the time.
[01:44:24] Unknown:
But do you know what's truly despicable? They would like us to believe, among others Yeah. They would like us to believe that we owe the national debt. No. We don't. The national debt is a portion of that debt that is actually owed to us, the ones that actually created the money in the first place.
[01:44:48] Unknown:
Yes. It's just a pity pool that there's no owed to us. I know. It's just a pity pool that there's no annual meeting where we get our Divvy back. That's never happened, has it?
[01:44:59] Unknown:
No. Right? Any other entity would be getting dividends.
[01:45:02] Unknown:
Yeah. They would. It's And I I mean, irrespective of whatever the full mechanics are, and no doubt they're coming up with more sort of multi stage confusion points to charge service fees as they talk you through this, that, and the other nonsense. The bottom line is that if a normal businessman did what a bank did, you'd be imprisoned for it.
[01:45:22] Unknown:
It's as simple as that. And lock them. And then not them up, throw it away Why are they not in prison? Throw them in a hole throw them in a hole so deep you gotta pump sunshine into them. That's that's where the people would be. Yep. That's I feel this well, I'm glad we don't talk about banking much.
[01:45:43] Unknown:
Well, I like to, you know, I like to bounce back to it. By the way, of course, it's all completely intertwined with the lure. And, after, those of you tuned a couple of weeks ago know that, Hannah was on and, I said last week that I was due to go to her meeting on Thursday. Now if you I I appear with Eric quite regularly now on a Monday evening on Fockham Hall radio. So if you caught it, I'm gonna say this again, but we were due to go to a meeting that Hannah was holding in London on Monday, just past four days ago. In the end, I didn't go, and in the end that was the right thing to do because it didn't take place, because Hannah didn't speak for all sorts of reasons which are slightly sort of soap opera y, and I don't want to go into them all. Then nothing too unpleasant, but there was no real reason for her to be there. And, in terms of logistics, I've decided I'm never really ever going to entertain the idea of going to anybody's meeting in London in Hackney on a Monday evening ever again because looking at it, it really was a nightmare.
And, Eric suitably put me off as he was going through it, and I think, aunt Sally was due to go as well because I was looking forward to meeting you guys. But we're gonna have to do it at the Fockham Festival or the Fockham Festival planning committee at some cafe in Kneesden or wherever we end up meeting. And, so it all turned out for the best. However, over the weekend, she put me in touch with a chap called I'll just call him Stuart for now, and I may get him on the show. He's an amazing guy. I I felt I've spoken to him, and, you see, his his knowledge is so detailed on court procedure and the true understanding of the words.
I spoke to him for two hours on Saturday, and my head hurt. I said, I've got to stop.
[01:47:30] Unknown:
I said, I can't We have to have a man's show. I can't I can't bring it in fast enough,
[01:47:36] Unknown:
and I wanted to mention this to you because something I think good is gonna come out of this. One of the things that happened towards the end of the conversation with him is we got around to talking about a point that we mentioned here. And this Alice, a gorgeous, sort of comes around to looking at solutions about communications approaches. I think I've mentioned here is the most tedious stuff, isn't it? On my seaside, on my shoreline walks, I'm thinking about communications packages, which is awfully pathetic, really. But seriously, I think it's important.
We're doing a three hour pub meeting here tonight. This is why it's moving around a bit. There's nothing really planned. You can probably tell. Spontaneity is the key word. That's what we want. We're gonna tap into sensible things. We're gonna goof off for fifteen, twenty minutes as well. That's fine. It's a bit like a pub chat. We'll keep it like this until people complain or nobody turns up and says we've had enough. I mean, you know, everything has its day. However, if if I look back at if you consider how most people learn about these, hidden blocks of information, it's through reading books.
Generally, it's your best bet, and you have to read quite a few to inter relate them and check things. And you go, ah. And slowly but surely, you begin to see a pattern. And, of course, the Internet has aided us immeasurably in that process. In fact, most of us got drawn into this because suddenly, there were really quirky, odd, and puzzling books being announced in certain places. Oh, I must have a look at that. What's that all about? And it draws people in which has been absolutely fantastic. The sort of, you know, everything that was hidden being will be revealed type process as mentioned in scripture and I think this is definitely a key part of it. But most people do not sit down and read long books. Now, if I've just offended you write in and say Paul, we all read long books. I might be misreading it wrong, but I don't think they do. Right? I mean, I don't think people are gonna read Stephen Zarlanger's The Lost Science of Money at 900 pages or whatever it is. They're not gonna do that and when I say most people, I mean just average very busy pressurized working people and I'm not trying to be patronizing because those people are people that, I value a great deal.
It's this process of standing together. Anyway, whilst I was talking to Stuart, this sort of came up towards the end and we've mentioned it here, haven't we, that you go to school and they don't teach you anything at all about the true operations of law. They certainly don't tell you what your status in law is. They wouldn't even know how to begin that as a class and they don't teach you anything about central banking, how credit works, and how you are basically gonna be a plaything of the banking cartel for the rest of your life. They're not they don't tell you any of that and just standing back from this alone and looking at that you go that it's not just bizarre. It's obviously in a way criminal to suggest that when people leave school at the age of 18, they know much of any real use. They know how to be an obedient slave or employee in this system. I don't care how many degrees you've got. The problem with nearly everybody's got degrees they don't know this stuff. This is like this is the foundational stuff of your life. You're gonna spend more time fretting over bills and how to meet them particularly now as they're pumping them through the roof. I just got my water bills through the other day. £350.
It's a joke. I'm going, oh yeah, I've got lights lighting around somewhere. £350 for three months water. I mean, it's just nuts. That's like $450, Paul, just to let you
[01:50:54] Unknown:
know, for water. It's just for water. Right?
[01:50:58] Unknown:
So For water? Yeah. Just for water. Yeah. And I don't even drink that bloody water. I use a water distiller and all this kind of stuff. Everything's nuts. Rain
[01:51:06] Unknown:
rainwater collection. Rainwater collection. Absolutely.
[01:51:10] Unknown:
Yeah. So I mean, and in talking to Stuart, towards the end of our conversation, so we've got a because we're going through so many words and I'm going, okay. I'm gonna have to do a copy briefing. This is what I said to myself. So I used to be a copywriter. I could sit down with a client, you go right okay I've got a pencil and pad, I'm gonna sit here for an hour, I'm gonna pick your brains and I'd have a whole series of questions to go through to find out what they were doing so that I could actually write something that made sense to him. So he'd go, yeah yeah that's what our customers need to know. Fantastic, because you know you've got to get everything out of their head. This is the ultimate test I think with this with this law stuff. It really is because the words are so there's just a blizzard of them.
Anyway, towards the end of the call, I guess my point, I mentioned this thing about I said what we really need to be doing, we need to be writing very brief, crisp, clear, joyous, I mean this, happy documents. It's a hap hap happy document, right? That everybody can read quick and get it. They can grok the meat of it fast and then there needs to be a second stage and even a third for those that really and there will be a small percentage that will want to tunnel into it to the nth degree. Fantastic. It might not be your bag of tricks but you should be really glad that it's going to be somebody's amongst our tribe because it will be. We've always produced that. So this is really good and I said this to him about 16 year olds. He said, if you gave me some 16 year olds in two weeks, he said, I could have them crystal clear and they would know exactly what to do every single time in a court. I said, you've just outlined the copy brief. That's exactly what we have to do. We have to put material together for 16 year olds. Whatever you might think a 16 year old is. I suppose it's a boy, a young man, and a young woman right now looking at their phone. Oh, they can vote now apparently through their phone probably instantaneously for people that don't know anything about anything but never mind. Anyway, I wrote down a list of words. This is gonna be a bit tedious but I just wanted to this is not even anywhere near a complete list. This just came out of my conversation with Stuart the other day for which I thanked him and thank you now Stuart if you're hearing this. Let me just run through them and see how many you know. You might think you know them because I think I sort of know them but I need them absolutely crystal clear in my head. So there's jurisdiction. We're not going to try and answer any of these, right? I just want to run through the list. There's jurisdiction, there's jurisprudence, trusts, trustee, beneficiary, true primary executor, secured party creditor, the crown, a crown agent, living man, living woman, legal person, natural person, legalese, legal entities, private, public, commerce, nature, standing, court, barrister, assumption, presumption and statutes. That's just for starters.
So I think we need a little book. I don't know what you think. Chairman Mauridi's little red book. I was thinking the the little yellow book of law because it's almost a tongue twister like red lorry yellow lorry. We need a little yellow book. I need it. I personally need it, because in going through these things, I think it's possible to teach this stuff and the way I personally have to I've got to teach myself it. It we should be able to talk about this stuff easy peasy like people could talk about football scores. It's a little bit more challenging than that, I accept. But we've got to get to that point because its strength is on keeping people in this condition of being in the dark about what they're really saying. And he also mentioned I'll just I'll stop in a second. One last thing to just mention from our conversation the other day. He was talking he said, if you ever get pulled over or a constable or a police officer or whatever the title is, and we need to know what that is, one One of the questions that I said, there's only really one question you have to say to them, is could you tell me what is the nature of your action?
Could you tell me what is the nature of your action? And the reason why that question, as I understand it at the moment, I might get this wrong, why that question is so powerful is that the true nature of their action, which they can't tell you, is that they are acting in commerce. This is basically a money shakedown. That's what it is and they can't admit that. So they won't admit it. And if they don't admit it or they don't respond to it properly, they put themselves in a position of dishonor. And one other little point he mentioned, which was really cool. You know we talked about foul language everywhere and the rise of it and of course we drop a few here every now and again because we're in the pub, right? But, one of the things that Stuart was suggesting was that there's been an intentional promotion of foul language through culture.
Because when you use it you go into a position of dishonor and apparently, I'm just using that word, it's apparent to my mind, I don't know for certain right now at this moment in time, is the first person of the two parties to go into dishonor loses. You don't go into dishonor. And it's just these little threads and thoughts. If this has bamboozled you a bit me just because it bamboozles me reading it out again, but but I was taking copious notes. He even sent me a seventeen minute voicemail message yesterday. It was brilliant, Stuart, by the way, if you're listening. It was absolutely brilliant and with all these ideas about how we actually put this material together to get it to project out to a much larger audience. I don't know if that's what you're thinking of Alice Gorges, but that's the sort of solutions that I'm or work line that I'm thinking about at this moment in time. So
[01:56:34] Unknown:
I cannot hear I cannot wait to hear that show. I just cannot wait to hear that show because every single one of those words is a hot button that I've been living and breathing for the last three years. Yep. Every single one of those words. People don't know the definitions of those words. And, I mean come on. We have enough confusion because they change the definitions of words, like, on a periodic basis. So Mhmm. When you think of the word of a word and what it means, it may mean that that day, but it may not mean that nine months later. And guess what? They're using the new definition.
You are still using the old one. When they're talking about residence, you think your residence is where you live. It's your address. That's where you lay your head down. No. When they ask you if you're a resident, they're asking you if you are part of their political status. They're asking you if you are agreeing to be, judged by residents under, like, say, the District Of Columbia, DC. It's not even part of The United States. I live in New York. When they say, are you a resident of the state of New York? Number one, state of New York is a political subdivision of Washington, DC. There's one. And number two, they're asking me if you're a resident. They're asking me if I'm a resident of DC and under the jurisdiction and some of federal law.
I'm not.
[01:58:13] Unknown:
I know. It's it's it's for you and me and everyone to look by the way, if you're out there listening to this and you think it's boring and tedious, let us know because it might I've sometimes what happens, I think there's a little line where people go over it, you get so into it, you can't see that that everybody else has fallen asleep. It's really difficult on radio to know that. What are they droning on about? That used to be my response. It probably there's still a great part of me doing that. However, we're coming to the end of the hour so I want to sign off from WBN. Thanks everybody on WBN three two four. We'll be back again same time next week. I'm also on with Ria Bow this Sunday in the final hour. That's two till three UK time whatever it is in US time, nine till ten on Sunday. We'll see you then. I'm gonna play a Monty Python song, which is all about happiness, which you will all know. So we're gonna play it, and, we'll be back after this on the other side. You wanna join us? Head on over to paulenglishlive.com where the show will carry on.
See you after this happy little song.
[01:59:13] Unknown:
Excellent.
[01:59:16] Unknown:
Some things in life are bad,
[01:59:19] Unknown:
they don't really make you mad. Other things just make you swear and curse. When you're chewing on life's whistle, that grumble, give a whistle, and this'll help things turn out for the best. Always look on the bright side of life. Always look on the light side of life. If life seems jolly rotten, there's something you've forgotten, and that's to laugh and smile and dance and sing. When you're feeling in the dumps, dab you silly chumps, just purse your lips and thistle, that's the thing. Ain't always look on the bright side of life.
Always Forget about your seat, give the audience a goon. Enjoy it, it's your last chance of air. So always look on the bright side of death. Life's a laugh, and death's a joke, it's true. You'll see it's all a show, keep them laughing as you go. Just remember that the last laugh is on you. And always look on the right side of life. Always look on the right side of life. Come on,
[02:02:39] Unknown:
Does that make you happy and tap your feet and want to look on the bright side of life? It does me. Well, what about that, Harry? Outstanding.
[02:02:46] Unknown:
Yeah. That is good, wouldn't it? Top notch. And that was the because they usually go beep. They'd be bleep a lot of that out, but they you got the one that isn't bleeped out, which is good. Well, we're in the pub. So We don't need that. We don't need any bleeping when we're in the pub. You know? No. We don't need bleeps. What what
[02:03:03] Unknown:
would have been bleeped in that song? I don't get it.
[02:03:06] Unknown:
Life is a load of shit.
[02:03:08] Unknown:
Life is a load of shit. Well Yeah. Oh, come on.
[02:03:12] Unknown:
Yeah. Oh, no. We can't say anything over here now. I haven't even looked into all the restrictions that are coming in, supposedly. And, of course, when we resist them, we promote them even further. We sort of all our energy goes into good, look at what they're doing, look at what they're doing. We're telling everybody what they're doing. We actually act as a sort of megaphone for the whole nonsense. It's very difficult. I still think, I still think the approach, I've mentioned this before with regards to these sorts of things, for example, with effectively thoughtcrime coming in, let's just go there.
What we need to do again, this is not one solution but it's an attitude more than anything else, although it would be great to see it manifest in actuality, is we need to get a goodly number of us. I would say, oh, a million should do it. Well, they had a million man march somewhere, didn't they? So why can't we do that? And what we have to do is organize to all go to the police stations around the country on the same day at the same time and arrest ourselves for thoughtcrime. So that we've been committing thoughtcrime. Been? Yeah. We don't know exactly what it is, but I'm reasonably sure I've been thinking things that you don't like and I think I need to be locked up and there's 50,000 more people at the front door, they're coming in to do the same thing. So you better get us all locked up. I want them locked up and they want me locked up because we're all committing thoughtcrime and we think you should probably lock yourself up as well, sir, mister desk sergeant, because you've probably been committing it as well. So let's all just incarcerate ourselves. That'd do it, wouldn't it?
[02:04:38] Unknown:
Yes. Yes. Or am I being shippered and saying I don't know if that would I don't know if that would be of benefit because at least in The United States, the the prisons are all privatized, and they actually securitize your incarceration. And they make money on the fact that you broke one of their statutes, their acts, or codes, and you got locked up for a victimless crime. That was that was, a code violation. They actually make money on the fact that you're sitting there, and they put you to work like in the private sector, and they pay you 50¢ on the dollar or 50¢ an hour to do something that another company would have to pay 15 to $18 an hour to have to actually hire people to do it. It's a win win for the prison system. Mhmm. It's a win win. They make a shutdown of money.
Yeah. Exactly. It is involuntary servitude under the third that's actually justified by the thirteenth amendment. And they do this all the while. They are actually feeding the prisoners meat where the actual boxes are stamped, not for human consumption. Hello? Why are you feeding it to people? Why? Because they can.
[02:06:00] Unknown:
Why indeed? It's ridiculous.
[02:06:03] Unknown:
It's absolutely horrible. And the prison system in The United States and around the world needs to be completely revamped. It needs to be taken apart limb from limb, piece by piece, and rebuilt to something that actually focuses on, first of all, only crimes against humanity or only lawful crimes where there is an actual victim, where there's actually harm or injury. Those are the crimes. The victimless crimes, screw you guys.
[02:06:36] Unknown:
Go Well, the real the real crime is the so called criminal justice system. That's a crime. It's not a criminal. It is a criminal justice system but not in the way that they intend you to understand it. I mean the thing I like Right. Although I am deluded and you have to forget my sort of wishful thinking, but the idea of large numbers of people doing something like that. First of all, it's peaceful, it's harmful, it is a kind of wonderfully ironic joke and therefore it would appeal across a broad base, possibly. Although some people might say that's not what we want to do, we want to do a punch up. We don't want to do that. We don't want to go into violence or dishonor at all. If we can hold that ground, you you know, I've often thought about this is that they come up with a regulation. What you do is you say that's not strong enough and you push it even harder so that it destroys everything. It's the speed. One of the great weapons they have is that they introduce things very slowly and create residual apathy.
They're continually pumping into your head these ridiculous things which they then don't do anything about. They'll come back in a year, see if you've softened up, see if you're bored, see if you've lost interest, see if you've watched your phone enough, whatever they're doing right and then they'll slowly creep in you go, I can't be bothered anymore. And that's the point where we just yield another part of being able to live our lives decently and honorably without these interfere the interfering class getting a greater hold on our day to day living, which is what this is all about. This whole thing about you will eat the bugs and be happy. You will not own anything and you'll be happy. There's no there's not enough of a sufficient rebuttal. Certainly, you don't hear it from the news services. There should be some outraged pundits going, who is this bald headed twat?
Right? Out in Switzerland talking crap because that's how it needs to be addressed. Get him in the pub here. We'll sort that lad out. He needs sorting out, you see, but we can't get to him. They live in this space and they keep pumping out this pew and they do it very slowly and it's very tragically, it's very effective, unfortunately. They're part of it.
[02:08:31] Unknown:
Well, the bald headed twat is actually, he's actually a historian because he is talking about what's already happened. Because because under a feudal system, I mean, the government has monetized people. They've monetized the birth certificates and your actual future labor. It comes from the feudal system. It comes from the Babylonian merchant code. And what he's talking about, you will owe nothing and you will be happy. Well, hello. You own nothing already. When you register your motor vehicle with the Department of Motor Vehicles, you actually turn ownership of that vehicle over to the state and agree that anytime you operate it, you will be engaged in commerce and therefore are under the scope and authority and jurisdiction of the Department of Motor Vehicles and the Motor Vehicle Code. So what you just said, Paul, what you just said, right,
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That's a great example of what we have to break down into little chunks. Right? Because you know what you're talking about and I kind of do. But it's got to be broken down so simply. It's almost Forget even 16. Can you teach it to an eight year old? I'm serious. I'm deadly serious about this. It's the most important thing. Little building blocks because if you think about most people's emotional relationship to the law, it's one of anxiety and they're right to be anxious about it, right? They don't want we talk about. We don't want the knock on the door. They'll come and get you. All this kind of stuff. Who are they? Why are you anxious? You're anxious about it naturally because you know nothing about it. You understand at least that they have got all the cards in their hand. They're gonna play a game that you don't even know the rules of and they're likely therefore to win and in 99 times out of a 100 cases that's exactly what happens. So if we can, you know, well I'm saying we, I'm going to be doing this or at least I got drawn into doing this. It all comes out of looking at the flags.
It's this simplification of a very complex process, so that normal people can go: Look, I know what jurisdiction means and you ain't got it, mate. And this, All of these things that just need to be put in place so that people can get connected with the honorable operations of lawful living. And this thing about living in the private and living in the public, I don't fully understand this. What you're just saying there about cars and commerce, commerce is in the public but you're you the flesh and blood man are in the private. Now even that sentence alone is is, a challenge to a to the mind Because everybody thinks we're just in it together dealing with this stuff, and if we could just get a new government in it'll all work out. Well it can't ever work out because the entire operating system, the code for the operating system, basically views you as a virus in it.
That's basically what it does. We don't wanna be in that operation. The problem is
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the difference between the public and the private with with respect to an automobile is by contract is because when you sign that depart that DMV motor vehicle registration application, you're agreeing to an adhesion contract that they did not disclose to you. You're agreeing to a whole bunch of crap that they never told you you would have to agree to. So when that cop pulls you over on the side of the road, he's already got your consent. He's already got your contract. He's already got your agreement Yeah. To do whatever he wants to you. Well, I I think that would be a really good story to go into
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because driving offenses are ubiquitous. Everybody's had them for all sorts of things. Mhmm. And it's not to go, I think, into an adversarial position with the other side. It's to get really clear about what you would say. As I said, I'm just repeating what Stuart mentioned to me the other day, what is the nature of your action? It's in commerce. And so Right. This thing about Yeah. And I know this is Roger's work about getting your status correct so that you're not in commerce or whatever the situation demands at that time. So that you retain honor.
You don't go into dishonor and they would and if they don't answer your questions they are going into it and it's I think it's gonna be fascinating but I'm gonna have to I want to talk to Stuart a few more times to see if we can pair it down almost like into little chunks. I'm serious because if you've seen a lot of this free man on the land stuff as well, it's it's very long. Yeah. That's bunk. And and people people get lost in the whole thing, you know. They all get lost in it. But they completely ignore it. They completely ignore it because there is no statute, act, or code that recognizes
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the sovereignty of a free man on the land. There is, however, federal, statutes that recognize a national of The United States Of America. It is a political status that is recognized by them. But just getting back to the DMV and the motor vehicle, do you know how they get you in interstate commerce? Because the only thing they can regulate is commerce, interstate commerce. Well, if you're a fourteenth amendment citizen, that means that you are a citizen of the District of Columbia and the federal United States government. Now if you are operating a motor vehicle that is registered by the DMV, you are engaging in interstate commerce just by going down the road to get a loaf of bread because you are property of the federal government, and you are operating a vehicle and transporting yourself as someone else's property.
And that is how the state gets you in interstate commerce.
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You Isn't this going to be fun putting this into little cartoons?
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Oh. Yeah. Little little bitty snippets.
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Hey, everybody. Oh, hi. Patrick. I was just about to introduce you. Welcome to the show, everybody. Patrick is here. Hi, Patrick. How are you doing? Happy days you're here again. Not too bad. Not too bad.
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Yeah. No. I was I was listening to y'all. It was pretty good. I think I think that, I don't know what to think about about, what you're talking about. You're talking about pilots getting eaten? What was that all about?
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Yeah. We were talking about eating we're we're talking about that was in hour one, I think. We were talking about the Argentinian rugby train team that crashed into the Andes in nineteen seventy something or other.
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'72?
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That's when it was and they were stranded there for ten weeks, seventy days in sub zero temperatures, and they ran out of food. And so the pilot, they ate some of the pilot to keep themselves alive. And out of the party of 45, about 25 succumbed to the conditions and 19 or 20 of them survived and got out.
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And and then Paul was talking about the Donner Party. Yes. That's right. Don't you remember The Shining? Where where Jack Nicholson looks at it at his wife and child and talks about the Donner Party getting lost up in Colorado? Yeah.
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Yeah. Let's see.
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But did they have driving licenses? That's what I wanna know.
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Yeah. Right. Exactly. Yes. Exactly. For their dog covered wagons.
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Yeah. Okay. The Donner Party was a group of American pioneers who became snowbound in the Sierra Nevada Mountains during the 1846 to 1847. While traveling to California, their harrowing experience marked by starvation and ultimately cannibalism has become a cautionary tale in American history. Yep. Right.
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I I just wonder how much of that is going on in Gaza right now.
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I don't know. Out of the 87 people out of the 87 people who began the journey from Illinois to California, forty died during the winter because they got a late start. And as soon as they hit that mountain pass, the storms came, and they were snowed in. They started by eating their animals, and then they started and then they ate the animal hides, and then they ate whatever was left. And I'm not gonna go into that any further. Yeah. Well, it where I'm going. It's it's kinda like the early American savages here
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when we had, you know, in America I'm reading a book at the moment about the first, Catholic martyr in North America. And it was a Jesuit priest from France who came and lived near Montreal and then went down south into, like Lake George and Lake Champlain, New York area and got captured by a hero or well, he went amongst the Huron Indians and then the Mohawk Iroquois. They were all Algonquin type Indians. But what they used to do with the prisoners of war was they would torture them, they'd cut their fingers off and make them eat their fingers, and then they would, just like brutalize them, cut them, and then roast them over fires, like drag them over fires and then eat them. And that was their way of getting revenge with people. Yeah, well you think of like, we have pow wows where they do the Indian drumming.
That's that's to, block out the screams of the people that they were torturing.
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I am so glad the third hour of this show is giving such a delightful topic.
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Well, it's also less than normal. Savage for you. Yeah. Mars.
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Yeah. Time. So toasting grandma would be a totally different sort of Literally. Meaning yes. Literally toasting grandma. Yes. Exactly.
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They wouldn't do that to women and children, even though the women and children would take part in the torturing of people. And that was part of the Oh, good Lord. The whole thing. Yeah, the women and children were brutal. They they would go in and tear people's limbs off and it's nuts.
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Poor hot cold one. That must be the that must be the Well, don't you remember that? Do you remember that little story I told about,
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1,600 and all at Jamestown? Yeah. Where they they arrived. I'll When I was meeting the boat They'd been three and a half months traveling across the Atlantic. They're pulling in. They're overjoyed to get to dry land. As they're coming down the tributary or whatever it's like, there's a canoe comes out of one side with these scores and children in it with a look of terror on their face paddling like mad and then about thirty seconds later, there's these white guys going even quicker and they all get completely anxious. They go the chase runs across the front of the boat, the prow goes right across. They all then switch to the other side and look at it, at which point the white guys catch up with the scores and the and the children, they kill them all. They drown them in the water, much to the absolute disgust of all the passengers that had arrived.
But when they got to the quayside, the captain goes up and wants to remonstrate with the leader of this canoe gang, as it were, who's with the harbour master and he explains to her what happened, which is exactly what you're talking about. They'd found all their party who had been tortured, had his skin pulled off, and he was still alive. They peeled his skin off down. It was actually just went crazy. And,
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you know, but, you know, we're savages, everybody. Don't worry. We're all the same, and we're all gonna get on. Well, that that's just it though. You know, the the the Jesuits came in, and what they would do is they would baptize them and catechize them and civilize them. Because, and they were receptive eventually, you know, they had to deal with a lot of the savagery, throughout time, of course. But gradually, that went away as time went on, and they abandoned it. I mean, they don't do it to this day. They still keep their traditions and the ones that are fairly harmless and innocuous.
Yeah. But that's the way they used to be. And it's it's not like it was anything new either because you you look in the Bible about Moloch, and it talks about them, how the the Israelites would stray and start worshiping Moloch, sacrificing their children. Yep. And it was the same type of thing. They would sit and they'd drum really heavy because you'd have to hear the children cry. And in order to drown that out, that's why they'd have those big drums to to drown it out so the father wouldn't get all riled up Yep. Of those children.
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Yep. No. It's all bad stuff.
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Richard Harris' film was A Man Called Horse. What a load of old rubbish. Because I noticed what they're doing now. They're kind of making it look as if the Indians were such nice people, all full of love and peace. And if you go to a place called Glastonbury in, England, they got all these was it dream catchers and what it looks like someone's just shot a pigeon and just sort of plucked it and shoved a load of feathers yeah it looks like a spider web type thing that's right yeah and they sell them to the gullible people for a lots of money they have gong baths and things like that, which I got invited to once, and I've never been so bored.
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I can't fuck them whole do a sort of counterpoint to that. The fuck them whole gong
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A clash of villages.
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A clash of villages. This would be cool. I'd quite enjoy that. That'd be a lot of fun. Well, it it was a dark You can do the fucking watch it on the camera. Catcher, Eric. That's what you want. There we go. That hit a nerve.
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That's what you want. But it's all this it's all this piffle. It's all this bullshit. It's like, what was that one about wolves that they had? What was that? Oh. Dancing with Wolves. Dancing with Wolves. You know, if that man had walked anywhere near the Indian camp, it'd be dead. That's it. Full stop. End of. Walks in and makes peace with a lot of load of old cobblers.
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I think The Revenant, which was out recently, is a little bit more true to life, really. I mean, it's probably a little bit more. And if we're talking about really great westerns, even though there aren't any Indians, oh, there might be a few Indians in this. I don't know. There's two things that spring to mind. One is a fantastic TV series, called 'Lonesome Dove' which starred Robert Duvall and Tommy Lee Jones. American series in the eighties. It's absolutely brilliant. It's one of the best things Robert Duvall's ever been in, but if you find a copy you've got to get used to the fact that the picture's square because it's for it's before the the the broad main TVs came out. Yeah? The Academy aperture. Yeah. It's four by three or something like that or whatever it is, and it's but it's absolutely brilliant.
It's it's so it's very long and it's about a Texas cattle ranch that's suffering from drought for two years and they'd lose so they decide to take them 3,000 miles up to wherever it is, a long way. I can't remember exactly which state they're going to, but from Texas Texas it's all gonna be a long way if they're headed north. And it's their, what they live through together. And it's really it's a fantastic fantastic story. It's just a great story. It happens to be about cowboys, but it's a wonderful story. Absolutely brilliant. And the other one I would mention, the other cowboy thing that leaps out recently is, The Adventures of Buster Scruggs by the Coen brothers. I don't know if you've seen that. Have you seen it? I've seen bits I've seen bits of it. The load of old cordless, but it's funny. Oh, well, it it is. But there's there one of them yeah. The first one, the only one, is meant to be a pastiche in a way, and it's very witty and funny, and I liked it a lot. I like all, but it's basically four short stories.
There's one in there about a cattle trail, that's quite brilliant about and they confront Indians in a way that's so spare you feel as though you it's like it there's no music, there's nothing, there's just a guy with a rifle, and there's about 15 guys, Indians on horses coming at him and he's trying to protect a woman. It's quite it's wonderful storytelling. It's really excellent stuff, and you really get a feeling of what it was like. Yeah, but it's just the way it's the way it's all caught in it. It's like I'm going, yeah. You like someone goes, I'm just going over this hill. You're going, where's he gone? It's like only ten minutes. You get killed because it's all quiet. You can't hear anything. I'm going, you know, people's guards down. They think that it's all cozy and it's not. And they don't hear stuff And I'm thinking, wow. It just feels much more like I I think it would have been. There you go. I know we got into cowboys, but why not? He's quite educated, isn't he? What buster scrubs? So he he's very cool,
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laid back, sort of, he's great. But he if I ask the part Yeah. He did affect the part well. I don't know who is the actor in that. I I don't know, but he I haven't seen him before, but he's a very good actor, whoever it is. Yeah. He's an English bloke. He sounds a bit English. No. He's not. No. He's no. He was also in, Oh Brother, Where Art Thou, which is also a pretty wonderful film by them,
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which I quite like.
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They're pretty good. Yeah. Even though they, of course, took the Mickie and the Ku Klux Klan. The ballad. Sorry. That's right. It's the ballad of Ballad of Buster's Burgs. Of Buster's Burgs. That's right. You if you wanna see close to what it was like, you need to see and I know the Americans don't know this film. Brilliant is Carry On, Cowboy. Yeah. Filmed, I think, just outside London. It's supposed to be the world where oh, it it was was it some someone there was a bloke that was sent to clean up Stodge City, and, he goes there, and they don't realize he's a sanitary engineer, not a sheriff.
He's gonna clean it up. But,
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no, I mean, it is By the way, if anybody wants to call in, I know I say this, and I'll just keep saying it. If you wanna call in and you're on the in on Tintinet and want to come in that way, go to paulenglishlive.com/call. Paulenglishlive.com/call. That'll bring you through to a little sort of anteroom, a little secondary studio that we have for taking calls or you can call the phone number and the phone number is running on the screen right now. So there's a US number and a UK number. If you wanna call phone numbers, it's running on the screen. So I won't read it. I like it. It's a bit dull, but I'm just letting you know we're here for another thirty five minutes or so. And if you've got any comments or you wanna just bend the conversation a particular way, we're quite open to that. You're in the pub so you can chip in and have your 10 pennies. Yes. Yeah.
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Yeah. But aunt Sally just said Fockham Hall fart catcher. Yeah. When my children were young, they used to fart into what charming children? Into sandwich bags, tie them up quick, and then burst a bit into each other's face. Who taught a man, Sally? Who taught them that? Yes. What what? Hello, children. Probably at at school. Do they go to progressive school? Today, we're going to learn how to fart into a bag.
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I already showed Sir, my mom's told me how to do this. Can I show the rest of the class? Yeah. What's going what's going on? Well, at least they're not teaching them to pull people's fingernails out and that kind of stuff. Yes. It's a little bit more amusing, frankly. It is. A little bit Joyce Grenfell, I think, is the best school teacher.
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Anyway, she said, today, children, we're going to all be pretty flowers. No tummy. You can't be a cauliflower. But, yes. Joyce Grenthall, your poll I guess you've never heard of over the pond. I guess you've never heard of Joyce Grenthall. No. Who's she? She was in the nineteen fifties, and she stuck in the nineteen fifties. She lived until, I don't know, about four years ago. But she was a woman that used to do sort of one woman talks, and she's very very funny she's very funny but very fifties humor that was a era sort of thing very posh British lady she came across this slightly eccentric
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she created a sort of stage persona for herself that was very it's very gentle, sort of witty observations about people's odd and queer behavior and stuff. It's very much like the sort of lady that would have gone round to the vicarage for more more scones and tea vicar. More tea vicar? Yeah. That kind of thing. And it's very polite and she's yes. And all that kind of stuff. It's it probably wouldn't travel across the Atlantic that well. I think it's very it's the sort of England we want to get back, Eric, isn't it?
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Well, the one that on the BBC, which is a very, very famous one, they used to have a vicar. I think you've heard this one before, Paul. You know, they used to have a vicar and some elderly ladies on there doing a a posh gardening program. And they used to be very, very, very sort of posh. And before the web went on air, the vicar had actually impaled his finger on it with rose thorn. And this is the exact words. I think you know what's coming. And she said, hey. Hello, vicar. Says, hello. How's your prick, Vic Vic Vicar? Oh, it's still throbbing. And the working class people the posh people didn't see any anything funny in it. Working class were off their seat with laughter.
And, that was on the BBC. It's all frightfully posh. You know?
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And that actually went on air, live on air. That sounds like the sort of joke that the cheeky chappy would have would have told, isn't it? Yes. Yes. Absolutely. Yes. Max Miller. That sounds like a Max Miller type joke.
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It's a funny story. It's a funny story. Hey, miss. There's a man in the nude. Can you imagine that lady? Can you imagine that? That's his patter, wasn't it? And did you know that Max Miller told, oh, he gave, he was chatting there. There was a famous comedian. He died not long ago. He gave him a master class in that to do comedy. And it was Bob Munkhouse. Bob Munkhouse was rubbish when he started. And Max Miller was watching him in the wings. And afterward, he came off the stair off the stage, and hardly anybody clapped. He's he gave him a half an hour master class on how to do comedy. And he said, don't hit the punch line. Let people's imagination hit the punch line. And, it is because he never did hit the punchline.
And he was and he he used to move on to another another one. You know, he said, came home last night as a man in the nude, in my house. Could you imagine that, lady? Could you imagine that? I said to my wife, what's he doing here? She said, oh, he's a nudist. He's come to make make a telephone call. It's not very good for you. Yeah. I mean, it's an old one. But
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And to think I actually had a joke earlier tonight, and I self censored because I didn't think we were going there. Because you're polite and you're a man of honor. That's why, Paul. You're you've got good manners, and this is what we like. But You like good manners. The gunpowder one. Yeah. That's a brilliant one, the gunpowder one.
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Sorry. I can I could okay? I could probably tame this down a little bit. Is a a man husband and wife, they're they're talking it's about breakfast time and the wife is saying, would you like would you like some eggs, some bacon and eggs, maybe some, perhaps some, pancakes and sausages, and coffee, something like that? And the man says, well, you know what? It's I mean, it's this Viagra. It's it's just interfering with my hunger. I mean, I I really have no interest in eating. She says, alright. So and then it comes to lunchtime. And she says, well, would you like soup and a sandwich? It's about lunchtime. I could make you a soup and a sandwich or or perhaps whatever else you would want. And he said, well, you know, it's now I'm I'm really not that hungry. I'm really not not in the mood to eat anything. I'm, it's this Viagra. It's just interfering with my with my hunger, with my appetite.
And then it gets a long dinner and she says, darling, how would you like a nice thick rib on steak? Maybe perhaps a potato, a nice cold beer, something like that. Wouldn't you like something for dinner? And he says, well, I'm I'm really I'm really this this my agony, it's really taken my appetite completely away. And to this, she says, well, would you do me a favor, love? Would you get off of me? Because I'm bloody starving.
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Nearly lost a shot of black. Can I, start by I mentioned I mentioned I'm gonna just I'm gonna just completely skew you for five minutes because I want to get this in? I mentioned I was gonna, I had something ancient to mention here from the, the Council of York in 1311. I bet you're all keen to guess. But this is just me hopping I would just want you to know how they dealt with usurers back in York. Although, it was the whole of England in 1311. Now this is not too long. This is but it gives you an indication of the clarity that they had that we've lost about how to deal with this. It says if anyone falls into the error of believing and affirming that it is not a sin to practice usury, we decree that he be punished as a heretic. And a sin to practice usury, we decree that he'd be punished as a heretic. And the body of the message goes as follows. It says, reliable sources inform us that certain communities, in violation of the law, both human and divine, approve the practice of usury.
By their statutes confirmed by oath, they not only permit the exaction and payment of usury but deliberately compel debtors to pay it. They also try by heavy statutory penalties and various other means and threats to prevent recovery by individuals who demand repayment of interest. For our part, we want to put an end to these abuses, and so we decree with the approval of the council that all civil officials of these communities, that is magistrates, rulers, councils, judges, lawyers, and other similar officials, who in future make, write, or draw up statutes of this kind or knowingly decide that usually may be paid or in case of it having been paid may not be freely and fully restored when its return is demanded incur the sentence of ex communication.
They shall incur the same sentence if they do not within three months remove such statutes from the books of those communities, if they have the power to do so, or if they presume in any way to observe the said statutes or customs to the same effect. Moreover, since money lenders frequently conclude loan contracts in an occult or fraudulent manner which makes it difficult to convict them on a charge of usury, we decree that they should be forced by ecclesiastical censure to produce their books on such occasions. Finally, if anyone falls into the error of believing and affirming that it is not a sin to practice usury, we decree that he be punished as a heretic and we strictly command the ordinaries of the localities and the inquisitors to proceed against those suspected of such errors in the same way as they would proceed against those accused publicly or suspected of heresy. That's from the Council of York in 1311, and it was during the reign of Edward the second. I just thought your lot's lost history. To be too much to handle though later on with the church.
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Every contract ends up going to the church for her for a judgment. That's the problem Right. With it. Yeah. That that they later came up with. There's a an encyclical that came out called Vix Pervainant that talks about usury and how it just got totally out of control. And it was in the, I think, in the seventeen hundreds that the remote
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Right now, but Yeah. It's right now. But so good old DeLongeshanks sorted out, didn't he? Because he booted all the users out. For a while. And we did for a while, three hundred years until,
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Cromwell reintroduced them. Nice man, I don't think. Well, it wouldn't have been just them. I think, obviously, it seems to be a certain sort of mercantile class leans towards it. Although, of course, it became, you know, the kings over here basically augmented it because they became reliant upon the revenues that they would be able to extract from the Jewish men the Jewish money lenders that they gave the power to. So the King was basically up to his neck in it as well. It was a terrible sort of good cop bad cop thing, and he was using the money basically to fund armies to go off, in our case, and fight with the French for a hundred years. You know, it's human nature don't change. It's nothing new. It's different form today, but the dynamics exactly the same. Someone feels entitled to rob you because of some spurious foul contract that says that you've got to pay them more and then it would have hurt even more. It would have been I mean I would think the the impact of it would have been much more readily and easily seen because of the complete lack of credit cards.
The liquid financial space that we now live in which is basically almost an artificial money system. It's all bogus. Nothing really means much basically. It's all sort of micro controlled in terms of prices and markets. But back then, people would feel it. They literally wouldn't have enough money. They'd be thrown out and all this kind of stuff. It's terrible state of affairs. Anyway Yeah. Vicks Vicks Vicks Vicks Vicks Vicks Vicks Vicks Vicks Vicks Vicks Vicks Vicks Vicks Vicks Vicks Vicks Vicks Vicks Vicks Vicks Vicks Vicks Vicks Vicks Vicks Vicks Vicks Vicks Vicks Vicks 1745.
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And this is what it said about usury. The received. The sin rests in on the fact that sometimes the creditor desires more than he has given. Therefore, he contends some gain is owed him beyond that which he loaned. But any gain which exceeds the amount he gave is illicit and usurious. That's the definition.
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Yeah. It's interesting. I mean Belloc has got a slightly different definition of it, or at least a slightly side so he says that usuries on any unproductive loan, which is quite interesting in a way, but I think, you know, I Well, if you're in a business partnership, it's a different situation. Of course. If you're given money to invest, then yeah, that's a different situation. But Well, basically, they all should be viewed as partnerships. I mean, but of course, what it ended up was that the money lender was just accounting house and basically, where's the where's the money? I don't care whether you've done whether you've used it well or not, you know. And this caused them, of course, to not be responsible for who they lend it to. They would just then enforce the repayment of it and it became a sort of, you know, a secondary pressure on people. Now it's just seamlessly institutionalized everywhere we go Because it's on everything, everybody's paying usury indirectly whether they like it or not because we all the prices that go into the interest payments are carried in the goods and services that you buy. That's how the company gets it back.
So the whole thing is just a seething mass of interest on interest on interest. Hence, a $37,000,000,000,000 debt supposedly on a sheet of paper, but it's but there for control purposes.
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That's really what's And it's always grabs your asset. At the end, it grabs your assets. That's why the World Economic Forum was saying you will owe nothing and be happy because that's what usury is. They're just grab grabbing your assets. It it just gobbles up everything. It's just like a monster.
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Alright. Yeah. The oldest example of usury and how evil and despicable it is is what did Russia and Germany have against the Jews? Why did they hate them so much? For stealing people's houses. And how did they do that? Usurious loans that could not be repaid because they were that way by design. Yep. It's all theft and heresy. I like them. I like it being referred to as heresy. I think it's
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long overdue. But it is. It's a heresy. I mean, it Yeah. It's not Christian. It's just well, it's just against the law, basically. I mean, if allowed into any space, it's the virus that chews up all the substance of life. That's why the culture's decaying. Everything, every single thing that we talk about here, one of the prime drivers or inherent qualities within it is this. Everything. Are we gonna make this is why they're always talking about economic growth. Why just get rid of why don't we not talk about that? Get rid of interest on loans. Right? Stop all that nonsense. Sort it out in a different way. We've got these computers, everybody. So the computers have been used to increase the efficiency of usury. Whereas, in fact, they ought to be used to completely remove it totally.
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Yes.
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But they've gone so used, I guess, to their role of being master lender, a new master borrower. And what does it say? It's somewhere in Deuteronomy. They will become, the lender. You will become the borrower. They will become the head. You will become the tail. You they'll be able to lend to you. You won't be able to lend to them. Hello? Welcome to living on England in 02/2025. And probably in large parts of living on America
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as well. That's what it's like. Well, that's part of it too. Is it, like, they see other people as subhuman that they can just use their their, slavery make put them into slavery whenever they want to and and use it for their own advantage. Yeah. But is there any truth in the I I heard this week that Putin
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has booted out the Rothschilds, and apparently, it was on RT. I haven't checked it out myself. I don't know if there's any truth in it, whether it's a, an Internet,
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he has to say something. The Rothschilds are how Alaska was lost by the Russians to the Americans. They had a loan for their war, you know, for the, actually it was for the, when they got rid of serfdom, the noblemen and Russian landowners had to pay for the serfs that they emancipated. And in order to do that, they took out loans from the Rothschilds, and they couldn't pay it back. So as collateral, they put down Alaskan land as the collateral, and when they couldn't pay it back, they ended up having to sell it to the government of America in order to pay the Rothschilds
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back their their loan. What's the what's the main, city in Alaska?
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Anchorage. What's Is that Anchorage? Kodiak
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Kodiak Island that's, It might be Anchorage. They got a university at Anchorage. So I've got another I've got another anic, a narrative about that, which I'm just it's just coming up on my hard drive. Got it, I think. So I saw this about six or nine months ago. It's to do with the Alaskan thing, you know. So what did they what did, America pay for Alaska? Okay. It's not Well, I don't remember what it it wasn't very much. No. Some million It's a couple of million dollars. Right? And it was something like 1¢ It was like two Ten ten acres. 2¢ 2¢ 2¢ an acre is what I'm saying. So, you know, we won't mind that. Right? Of course, they probably weren't fully aware of what was gonna lie beneath it or maybe they were, I suppose. Maybe they'd had some clue, but that's not what it's about. The story I heard from a university professor up in, I think, Anchorage, okay, who'd found this in the documents, the local records, was that Russian, fur, traders had been coming to Alaska to capture whatever animals have got fur up there. Fear of Sorry to be Stupid Okay. And they'd wiped most of them out. It became less and less lucrative as they basically depleted this stock of animals and there was less fur, so they weren't too bothered about it anymore.
And it taps into, the US war between the states because Yes. The Russians sent the navy into New York, did they not, to support Lincoln. And there was a debt that was owed to Russia for that, but they didn't want it to be made public that that that had happened. They had to be disguised. So the wholesale of Alaska was basically a way for this for The US to pay the Russians back for the Russian navy coming in and siding with Lincoln, under the guise of buying Alaska because they didn't want it anyway because they got rid of all the animals that they took that they didn't value it. They weren't gonna come back anymore. So they said, look, we'll put this out as a story. That's what we do and then we get our $2,000,000 back that yours for the Navy coming up fifty years ago whenever it was. When was it sold? Nineteen o two or something, wasn't it? So it's only about Alaska. Alaska. When was the auction? Late 1800s, early 1900s? The Civil War was '18 in the eighteen sixties was the Civil War. That's right. But Alaska, the auction, that was a was about thirty years after that, but that would make sense. That's okay. They can let these things run. So it's very if you look, I can't remember where it is. It was a YouTube interview, but I think there's also some documents about it. I thought I thought it was fascinating, and he seemed to have sort of documentary proof that this is basically what had taken place. That it was a disguise sale.
They couldn't care less about Alaska. They had no intention of coming back. So they said, you can buy offers because we want our 2 or $3,000,000 back or whatever then the US government ended up paying for it at the time. So, anyway, it quite appealed to my sense of intrigue, I have to tell you, and it looked pretty good. Yeah.
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Well, tomorrow there's supposed to be a big meeting between Putin and Trump, which hopefully goes well. I don't you know, as much as it you can say that these type of things can go well, I I hope it ends. I'm I'm tired of it. The war between Ukraine and Russia, it's a bloodbath. What do what what good is going on there whatsoever?
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It's all part of the world geopolitical stage play, isn't it?
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Yeah. Yeah, and Alaska is a fitting place though, because of the Russian territory that it used to occupy. Mhmm. Trump's family, it was his, I think it was his grandfather came into America from Germany. His actual name is the Trumpledorf or something like that. Right. It's not Trump. It was abbreviated, but then what he did is I think he went up to Alaska and bought up a lot of saloons and that sort of thing, property, gold mines and things. And that's how his family actually gained wealth was up in Alaska. So, no doubt they may even meet on one of his properties if that's the case.
But I hope it goes well because they got to end that, you can't, you can't be having that kind of war going on. I mean, it's only a matter of time before they bring it over here. These things with drones, those things are cheap and you get, you get people doing that sort of thing, promoting it over there. They'll do the same thing over here and they'll have no problem
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doing it. No, it's all hell. It's all hell. It's the manifestation of a disease that's a lot deeper,
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isn't it? I just think, you know, it's been like this for thousands of years. Well the thing where they just revert to sanctioning, you know, like the sanctions office, it just becomes a joke. I mean, now it's tariffs, And it's just like, well we're gonna just sanction everybody we don't like and then it leads to a war and then you wonder why it led to a war because you get these people who can't talk to each other. They shut down the embassies and then they say, well, yeah, they're just the enemy and we can't have them over here talking to us because we might come to peace terms. It's like, well, that's what we want.
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We don't want That's what we want, but it's not it's not really what the banks want, is it? It's not what the money power wants. I mean, that's all I know I said, but I I just tend to think it will answer 99 out of a 100 questions. If the money power want more, it happens. If they don't, it won't. That's it. Because, all of these parts and components are manufactured from certain companies all around the world. All send them everywhere. They don't care as long as they, you know, their stocks are okay and all this kind of stuff. And it's all interlate interrelated. All of the interests of other people are interrelated with everybody else.
Fancy a war? Look, we could sort this out. This is literally like that. They're not gonna find it. Their sons and daughters aren't gonna be in it. And, of course, you know, the peasants are always there to be chewed up. It's it's not People are just too fat and happy.
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I guess. I mean, they're not that happy necessarily, but just too too fat, low Just fat, at least fat.
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Yeah. When the shelves are empty, supermarket shelves are empty, then they'll do so. But they won't be because what happened in lockdown, you could get high carbohydrate junk food with ease. The quality stuff, you couldn't get so easy. And that's what's gonna happen today. Again, you know, loads of, carbohydrates, you know, chemical food. That's what that that'll be plentiful, but real food won't be. And I think that's what we that's what the future holds. And I hope I hope I'm a 100% wrong. But,
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you know, I support those local farmers, those small farmers that Yeah. The That's definitely part of the solution process. I agree with you, Patrick. I think it's all part of that. And Paul mentioned earlier that all politics is local, and we've got to turn that from a phrase into an actuality. It needs to become that. People I realized though that the training that you're receiving all the time is undetected by you. You can't help it. It's not possible to deal with all of these things. So since 1945 over here, the rise of convenience living, particularly over the last thirty or forty years, has changed the way that we live. And even the mob you know, I know I'm coming back to I'm not not laying the blame entirely at smartphones but it really has changed everything.
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Lots of moments.
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Yeah. Tons of stuff is just gone missing out of life. Moments of connection that used to exist. Like I've I go out walking quite a bit in the last two times. I've not taken my phone and realized that I felt anxious, that I was cross with myself. I want to listen to this and thought, give it a break. Give it a break. Just go and sit still and look at the sun for twenty or five and it's really refreshing, but you get so out of the habit of it and of course, there's no dopamine hit. Oh, no. Of course, you don't think of it in those terms, but our minds are running quicker. I think, generally quicker than they have ever had but basically on a fuel of, you know, sensationalist crap that keeps pouring through on the interwebs as it were. A lot of it is not particularly constructive and I've got a I'm trying to break myself with all sorts of habits and go I need to get into a more physical way of living again and out of this electronic space to the degree that I've been in. My excuse back to myself and it's a good one I think.
Obviously, I would think it's a good one because it's the one I came up to make me feel okay about it is I'm interested in plowing into all this stuff which I think is really what the Internet is amazing for, and not for all the, you know, the automation of our lives, which I'm disinterested in completely. And what Alice, you know, what you were saying, Eric, about getting the communication side going, I'm thinking, holy moly, there's so much to do. There there really is. But it until it starts, a little bit of it starts to get done, it's difficult for people to see what it is. I I do think it's a case of that. I agree. But we've touched on loads of things tonight. Local farmers, we need to do deal with that. This means, of course, you know, if we get into the county thing, we can have county money. Why can't you?
Why can't you Why can't you Why can't you Why can't you Why can't you because you have county money? I mean, oh, you can't do that because the world economy we're not interested in the world economy. We don't need it. Oh, no. We're reliant on all these things. Well, we won't be very soon. It's this so in other we're thinking about all the wrong things. We're thinking about how to resist them. It's a bit of a grand statement to say. We're thinking about the wrong things. You have to think about the emergencies that are coming down the road, of course, but such little time is devoted to actually constructing the world that we want to live in. And we only have to look in the recent past to see something was much much closer to it. I'm not saying perfect, but way way better in terms of the structure of daily living. It was much much better than this.
I just saw today, I don't know if you saw it Eric, over here. So it's a level result time that's come through. All the students get their a levels. And apparently, more have passed this year. It's the best year ever. Well, slap my thigh. I know. It's just amazing and all that kind of stuff. Now let's assume that it's true, and I don't know what what A level papers are like these days, but it'd be very interesting to compare them with those exam papers from 1882 that we were reading out several months ago, which was astonishing, right? Okay. And I include myself and I found A levels tough. I got two or three, I think something like that that I don't know. I don't even have the sheets of paper. Calculator,
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you know, you got you got AI and stuff to help you. Yeah. Maybe that does improve it. Yeah. You just I guess it does. All these tools at your fingertips.
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I guess it does. But the the thought that struck me as I saw this little clip was, what do they think these a levels are gonna enable them to do? To be smart in a world that's being designed to run-in a toilet? It it's Right. I'm not qualified to be more in the economy. What are you talking about? It doesn't exist the way it did even fifteen, twenty years ago. It's going so rapidly. There's somebody saying about AI, something like 40% of all websites now are built by AI. By 02/1926, it'll be 60%. By the end of this decade, it'll be nearly Everything's got this artificial feel to it and I'm thinking it's time to get out of the social networking stuff even though we're using it here to try and draw an audience in because I can't think of anything else better at the moment, and probably get back to things like private podcasts on private servers with private email discussion lists. Emails brilliant on discussion lists. It's really good. On a sort of county or parish basis and you link them together. I know it sounds so quaint. You're so backward. People are not gonna do that. I accept that they won't. They've got used to the convenience of instant connection but it's like people have got gazillions of likes. You go, what what does that mean? It's just a meaningless load of twaddle.
But the dopamine hit that comes from it, this is why they go crazy. Oh, look, I've got 2,000 people that like me. What does that mean? It just means they clicked something. I'm not trying to put anybody off by the way. I want you to all like these videos on YouTube and Rumble, so don't forget to click the like. By the way, share share and like this, video everybody. Yeah. By the way, on on the same end. Yeah. Promote it like mad because, you know, I can't live without the attention, all that kind of stuff. So, anyway.
Yeah. All that kind of gear.
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Interesting time. Good music. You you were talking about Ozzy Osbourne and the depressing stuff. We need the the happy stuff, you know, happy days are here again. That kind of the dance music that actually makes you wanna dance rather than, shuffle your feet and look down in depression. That, you know, we want the the good stuff. Yeah. You know, where we can prance around the dance floor.
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Yeah. Yep. I think we do. Because what like you said, it's it's coming. Eric, you're gonna do are you are you gonna do any prancing? What's going on?
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I might be prancing around. You never know. Yes. Twinkle toes, you know, on on the old dance floor. But, as I say, it won't look natural. It's not a pretty sight. I can assure you. I've had I as that girl said, it might be looking like I'm doing an impersonation of a panzer tank with a dodgy gearbox. And we're just walking into people and walking backwards and walking forwards again. But, no. It's just, some people are cut out for dancing. I don't think I am actually.
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Well, towards the end of the show, gentlemen, which has been a good hundredth show. Quite crazy, actually. I didn't know, all that. We had a lovely start. That was technically an awful lot of fun. I just forgot what all technical mayhem was like, but there we go. Anyway, we'll be back, same time next week. Got a guest next week. I think I mentioned it earlier in the show. Thomas Anderson, who was on several months ago, talking about the bell and things like that. He'll be back. I don't know what we're gonna talk about. I'm hoping maybe we'll really tunnel into AI. I think it might be worth having a good look at all that kind of stuff and the implications of it. How we avoid it? How we start supporting farms getting our eggs fresh and all this kind of stuff. So it's almost like being a neo luddite. I think that's really what I I think of myself as. Just a more tactile and involved life where you do get mud under your fingernails, you get a little bit dirty, you have to have a bath and all that kind of stuff you know, so all that kind of stuff. Anyway, there we go. Yeah there we go.
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Fantastic.
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So thanks everyone in, Rumble and YouTube this evening. Hope you've enjoyed yourselves. It's very warm where I am. I'm actually cooking here. It's really warm evening. You're in here. Yep. I'm going to the Eastbourne Air Display on Saturday. I haven't been to an Air Display in about twenty five years. So my son said red arrows are gonna be there. It's gonna be a beautiful day. A clear sky forecast, so no low cloud cover. Otherwise, it'd be garbage. Jets, all that kind of stuff. So we're gonna go and have a big Go on a plane ride, Paul. Spitfire? Yeah. Go on. Do it. Yeah. There's gonna be a spitfire. There'll be a spitfire. That's all that was bothered that's all we're bothered about. We'll see you all next week, everyone. Bye for now. Thanks very much. Thanks, Paul. Thanks, Patrick. Thank you, Eric. And thank you. Good chats and chat passes in Rumble and YouTube chat. We'll see you all week. Have a cracking
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week.
Technical Difficulties and Show Introduction
Celebrating 100 Shows and Broadcasting Challenges
Introducing Eric and Humorous Banter
Audience Interaction and Shoutouts
Dancing Anecdotes and Humour
Usury and Historical Context
Discussion on John McTernan and Marxism
Psychopaths and Historical Figures
Survival Stories and Cannibalism
Music and Cultural Reflections
Solutions and Community Building
Understanding Law and Legal Terms
Humour and Light-hearted Banter
Historical Usury and Its Implications
Geopolitical Discussions and Alaska
Modern Challenges and Future Outlook
