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In this episode, we delve into the complexities of modern life, starting with a light-hearted discussion about the weather and the British penchant for talking about it. We reminisce about the simplicity and warmth of past generations, touching on family traditions, the importance of home-cooked meals, and the art of shoe polishing. The conversation then shifts to the more serious topic of banking and the economic systems that govern our lives. We explore the role of central banks, the concept of usury, and the historical context of financial systems, highlighting the need for a more equitable distribution of wealth.

We also discuss the socio-political landscape, focusing on issues like immigration, cultural identity, and the impact of digital currencies. The conversation touches on the challenges of maintaining cultural heritage in the face of globalization and the influx of new populations. We examine the role of government policies in shaping our societies and the importance of moral principles in guiding our actions. Throughout the episode, we emphasize the need for community, understanding, and a return to simpler, more meaningful ways of living.

[00:00:08] Unknown:

Hi, everyone.   Hello. Good evening. Good afternoon. Wherever you may be. It is, the last the very very July   in 02/2025.   I don't know what this signifies. Does it signify the end of summer or something or is it still summer going on? Actually, we've only had officially   one month of summer, haven't we? Only one month of it. Just over a month. So there's quite a bit to go. Summer ends on September 20.   And, although it's been a bit grizzly here, I'm looking forward to some sunny times ahead. Beginning with the next three hours.   Yes. It may be gray, cloudy, warm, and very moist outside, but it's all hot, bright, and full of zip and sunshine in here.  

Well,   I've said it before   and no doubt I will say it again but a week is a short time in 02/2025,   isn't it? Or is it just the advancing years and as we get older   the days seem like hours and the hours seem like milliseconds almost. It just flies by really. So it does not seem like a week ago, that we were here,   having what, was pretty cracking show last week. I don't know whether we can equal it, of course we can. We're gonna go way past it or whatever.   But, jolly good show last week with Hannah and, lots of good positive feedback around it. I've been   looking for flags. If you didn't catch the show, one of the things on a very simple level that we were talking about   was the old ancient English Anglo Saxon flag of the white dragon on the red background,   and I've been scouting around a bit. You come across loads of Welsh dragons. They're everywhere. So and I do understand. I'm not cross about this. I grew up looking at Welsh Dragons. No doubt many of you did too. So   the arrival of a nice white   English   Anglo Saxon dragon was a bit of a novelty to me. Although I've been looking at it, I think, on and off for the last few years on certain websites that of course are looking at inspiring those of in this, those of us in this nation.  

But in terms of the amount of stuff you can get on the Welsh dragon, it's considerably more at this moment in time. But,   hopefully things will get corrected as we move along. So there's all sorts of little ideas around that kind of stuff.   I did a little promo for the show earlier today, stuck it up on x and sent it around Telegram and all that kind of stuff. I don't know if you caught it, but if you did, you will know that I mentioned that at that point,   which was about 02:00 this afternoon, I wasn't sure whether Monica Schafer would be with us or not because I'd not heard from her. She's normally so punctilious, I think that's the right word, with all this kind of stuff. Anyway, she has got back to me. She'll be rocking up here onto the show,   just in about an hour's time, top of the hour, top of this the end of this particular hour. So we look forward to Monica's company. It will probably be about a month because it usually is since she was last on.  

We've got a few topics lined up but as you know if you listen to this show regularly, none of us really know ultimately quite where it's gonna go. Although, we do thunder back to certain core themes again and again.   Anyway,   that's what the weather's like here.   Eric Von Essex, what's the weather like in   Fockham Hall?  

[00:04:13] Unknown:

Well, it's been a weather forecast, Sid. Oh, by the way, good evening everybody and listeners and everything.  

[00:04:20] Unknown:

Yeah. They said it's going to be,   thunder lightning, and we're in a was it a yellow   a yellow weather area? Right. That's a bit strange, innit? I mean Yeah.   That anyway,   a wee wee wee rain, a yellow redder. Yeah. Because they they say it's yellow.  

[00:04:41] Unknown:

Oh, you just disappeared. Where have you gone to?   I'm still here. Yeah. You just went you just disappeared. You're obviously struck by lightning or something in fog, and you just Well   Yeah. You're back again. Hello? Yeah. You're here. Again. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Cool.  

[00:04:55] Unknown:

No. Anyway,   I was,   it it chucked it down with rain this morning. Not much.   And,   it's been nice day. You know, it's been really nice all day. And I've noticed they're overemphasizing   the weather a lot now. They say, oh, it's gonna be thunder, lightning, terror no. It just rains a little bit this morning. Nothing much. That's it. But they when you saw the weather forecast, you'd have thought it's gonna be hammering down all day, and we're gonna have, you know, they said, it's gonna be dangerous on the road, especially around rush hour with this terrible   lightning and that. No lightning? No thunder?  

And they'd noticed a couple of weeks ago. And have you noticed that? I don't know whether people in The States have noticed it. They're hyping up the weather over and over again.   And, there's like a little boy that cried wolf. Soon people are gonna say, sod it. No. And what I do,   I look at the radar maps and work it out myself what the weather's gonna be like and that's it. I've loved it today. I've loved the weather today. I think I think it's absolutely fantastic. It's,  

[00:05:58] Unknown:

it's muggy, it's warm, it's kinda sweaty a bit if you know what I mean. I think it's been a little bit like that. But we've had the most fab sort of thunderstorm this afternoon starting probably around about 12:00.   Lightning, lots of rain. I've just been out for a walk down the old beachfront as I do. My pre show ramble talking to the birds Yeah. And hello clouds, hello sky, and all that kind of stuff and, you know, being the local eccentric oddity in the area and just went down the beach, said hello to a woman, said hello to her dog, which was there. Very moist, the dog had been in the sea and everything. But she was quite cheery about the range. She said, oh, we do need it. I said, well, that's what they tell us, us, so I'm okay with everything.   But, no, it's been great today. I love it. It's,   I I I can't believe how good the weather has been. And I know we always talk about the weather. I'm sorry. It's just a British thing. We always kick off talking about the weather. And,   yet   I was out for a walk last night, said hello to some people. I don't know who they were, probably never see them again ever in my life. They were bundling around probably with a dog and,   we're just it was getting a little bit darker than earlier, but I thought good grief the weather has really been so good this year. I don't know what it's like being here, but overall it's been fantastic and it feels to me now more like it's the August. I think there's I know that's why I was just slightly confused. I'm thinking actually,   we're only a month into officially summer, you know, a month and a bit since June 20. And there's quite a bit of it to go and often we get the best weather over here anyway in September and early October. So  

[00:07:26] Unknown:

Look at us. All positive here in England about at least about the weather, which is a bit weird, isn't it? Yeah. My granddad used to say, all the bosses go on holiday in September because that's the best weather. Mhmm. And he's right. Yeah. September is usually very nice.   And it has it has I mean, I went to Dover once in October,   and it's it's people swimming in the sea. It's beautiful. And this is October.   So it's quite surprising,   you know, that when the bad weather doesn't really start until sort of November, December   time, then you notice it. Yeah. It starts all of a sudden. It seems to sort of one day, it's nice and warm and sunny. Next day, it's freezing, you know? Yep. That's it.  



[00:08:07] Unknown:

So Yeah. It is. Yeah. Shout I mean, a shout out to everybody in the chats as well. I know Eric just gave you the tip of the verbal hat, but, shout out to everybody who's in rumble already. Good evening or good afternoon to you, depending on what part of the world you're in. And, also,   look you get special mention in YouTube because it's a little quieter there at the moment but it's building nicely actually. So good evening to Sue Sparkle and to Alice Gorgeous. I mean, what we're supposed to do with names like that, Eric? Are they nice names? Sue Sparkle and Alice Gorgeous.  

[00:08:36] Unknown:

Yeah. Sue Sparkle   Sparkle and Alice Gorgeous.  

[00:08:42] Unknown:

It's true. I'm I'm only reading out what's on the screen. I just think it's great. It's nice, isn't it? Yeah. It's so is that real?   Sue Sparkle reminds me of some name from a show or something, or maybe I'm being I'm not meaning to be insulting or rude to you, a miss or missus or whatever, Sue Sparkle.   But it does it reminds me that Alice Gorgeous is obviously a real name, and I think that's fantastic.  

[00:09:06] Unknown:

So Yes. No. It's all good stuff. Yeah. I think it's it's a lovely, you know, because she's actually on my chat as well on my show. So,   so, hello, Sue Sparkle.   Evening, you  

[00:09:21] Unknown:

know. Oh, that's groovy. No. It's really good stuff. Yes. By the way, we've got a we've got a technically,   little experiment running here tonight. Well, I do anyway. You know what I mean? I always like to sort of fiddle with me technical trousers around these things. Everything's going fine as far as I'm aware, so none of you said you can't hear the signal. I think the signal's going out fine everywhere from all my monitors, so we're looking pretty cool.   But the show is going out twice in this YouTube channel. So if you're on YouTube, you can listen two ways. I don't know why I've done this, but basically what we've done is the show is originally broadcast on Radio Soapbox and then I've picked up broadcasting on Rumble and YouTube as the as the months have gone by, which is obviously a great thing to do because we get the chat and the chat's really the life and soul or it feeds me and and Eric and our guests with all sorts of things. It's wonderful stuff to actually be connected with everybody.   But what I've also done today or Eric, I've sent out a guest with all sorts of things. Oh, hang on.  

Coming back.   But what I've also done today   Oh, hang on.   Something's just gone funny. Hold on. Oh, yes. What I've also done today is Oh, I'm Eric Thomas Guest with All Today.   Where is that coming from? Was that interesting? I don't   know. That was interesting, wasn't it? Was that interesting?  

[00:10:34] Unknown:

Oh, I see. That sounds like a girlfriend he used to have with a sort of back chat. They did it just it was like a deja vu of my ex girlfriend. So It's like deja vu all over again. Yeah. Oh, it's fantastic.  

[00:10:46] Unknown:

Yeah. No. It's, it's pretty cool. So we're going out on YouTube. We're going out twice. I'm just greedy for this. We've got we're going out of a radio soapbox, which is just a pure audio feed because, you know, we're all miserly over here. But I no. I've always, you know, I like audio, but we've still got a problem with soapbox in the sense that we don't really have a lively chat space there and so this really helps with it.   So but on the YouTube channel that I've got set up at the moment, we've just been doing a test by sending the   soapbox audio stream into YouTube as well. It's been running for actually be about a day now. I just set it up to see if it would work. Everything seems to have been pretty stable. So it's a test,   because   really running radio stations over YouTube, but I think we could even run it over rumble is   relatively easy to do. I've got some sort of technical.  

Everybody's thrilled with all this chat, of course. Oh, please tell us about your technicals.   But, there's a few technical challenges involved. They're not challenges possibly beginning it up a bit too much. There are things to set up and, they seemed they seemed to be set up and going well. And there's, it was fun yesterday because, Eric, it it sort of alerted you. I only just sort of switched it on on YouTube and a good cluster, maybe a dozen or so people just piled in. So if you were one of those, thanks very much for doing that and all started sort of chatting   away. And it's so much more engaging when you've got a chat room running alongside stuff. So still lots of sort of detail and scheduling work to do to get these things sorted out but it's also because I'm planning I've got a cunning plan in mind for something else. I'm always always looking at planning to, to try and find ways to expand the audience, reach more people, all that kind of stuff, you know, without bribing people to actually listen. We don't want any of that. I couldn't afford it anyway. So that So there you go. Back end of Bob's. Yeah. But actually, sorry, that flag I'm sorry I didn't mean to talk no no please talk over me it's great yeah but no that idea of the flags  

[00:12:38] Unknown:

well they are okay we could have the flags of our counties   in, say, back of our cars or whatever.   But what about something to go with it? With the words,   it's time   or something like that. Just to get people thinking.   You know, what's this about? Because people might say, oh, yeah. It's a flag. It's a Hertfordshire flag or that's the Essex flag or it's a Suffolk flag or whatever. But if you just had only it's time   or something a bit ambiguous  

[00:13:08] Unknown:

Oh, well, I like that. Suggestions.   Yeah. I think maybe different counties will will come up. Maybe the, you know, the county men and the county women of the counties, if if we can get a head of steam behind it. And it's not just us. I just think it's across the board. I mean, I'm looking at a place to actually sell flags.   I think I know what to do. It's just a matter of time in getting it all set up. But we need this kind of an online shop   so that you can get flags. And even, you know, like somebody suggested, Eric, and and rightly so, there should be a Fockham Hall flag and, I'd probably fly that one. But only on Mondays, of course. But, you know, you could change your flags each Yeah. Couldn't you? And you can also,   get somebody in your clothes to blow a trumpet at 09:00 in the morning as you change the flags over, the changing of the flags.  

It's very appealing actually.   It's quite yeah. I find it. We just do all these sort of old rituals and rigmaroles in the street and everything. Yes.  

[00:14:03] Unknown:

Do you ever see that,   scene what was it now? It ain't half hot, mum.   With Windsor Davis, he's supposed to be in India.   And he's got that little squatty bloke. I can't remember his name now. Squatty bloke.   He's   a he's a small geyser. A little squatty bloke.   Yeah. Yeah. Lofty as they called him. Yeah. And they're doing the lowering the flag ceremony.   And,   he said he used to be in the boys' brigade, I believe. And he's got a bugle there. He said, yes, sergeant major. But shut up. You know? And, every time he says, but, miss sergeant major, shut up. And it went say he said, right. Okay. Play away.   And he can't play out now. He said, I thought you said he was in the Boys Brigade.  

He said, yeah. But he said, I didn't play the bug. God played the drums.   You know what I thought, mom?  

[00:14:57] Unknown:

We we don't have those sort of actors anymore. They just they were just characters. Oh, I don't know, Eric. I'm I think I might be listening to one right now, actually.   That's a compliment, by the way. I think there's room for all sorts of,   reintroduction of English eccentricities into all sorts of things. It would be really good. Yeah. Absolutely. I think we need to learn. Why not?   I don't know whether I'd mentioned it last Thursday.   So you'll have to bear with us if we do repetition. It does happen, you know. It's part and parcel of the of the space. Maybe it was when I was with you on Monday night show because we had a good time on Monday night, didn't we, over at the Fockem Hall Ranch? Yeah. Oh, yes. Yes. Yeah. I've been looking at flagpoles, not literally looking up them, but looking them up in terms of what's permissible and all that kind of stuff. Certainly around these ear pirates,   you are allowed to put a flagpole up that's 15 feet high, which is pretty good, isn't it? I don't it's pretty good. It's very good. Yeah. I think it's okay. I mean, I don't know what size flag you would put on that. There's also the flags you can get that lean out of 45 degrees from your house if you wanted something that was a little bit easier to create a flag pole stand for. I think it's a bit easier to sort of, you know, you get a drill and sort of, you know, put some masonry bolts in or something and hold this thing up. Hopefully, it won't pull your house down if the wind picks up, but   no. It's all it's all pretty cool.  

Even today thing. Yeah. Sorry.  

[00:16:20] Unknown:

Again, sorry. I'm chomping in again.   I I I must take some more tablets.   Now I was gonna say, we must also reinstate the the counties that have been lost, such as Middlesex   and,   what's that one in Northampton that was the source A tiny one.   Yeah. What was that called now?   Oof.   Oh, it jumped out my head. Rutland. Yeah. Rutland. Yeah. So we must reinstate Middlesex and Rutland   Yeah. And,   do away with London,   because,   they   they never London was very, very small at one point.   Places like Shoreditch and that were in Surrey and and and place so we need to extend those counties again. So we we must have a flag for for Middlesex.   I was born in Middlesex, so I know what a flag is. It's a shield. Has Middlesex disappeared then? Has it has it just gone? It doesn't exist. It doesn't exist,  

[00:17:14] Unknown:

and nor does Rutland. So we we've got we've got Sussex, which is the South sex as it were. We've got we used to have Wessex,   which I think is it doesn't does Wessex actually exist as a county? Is it just sort of nominally a region with a few counties in there? So we got Wessex, we've got Sussex. Sussex has been broken up into West and East, but basically, it used to be just Sussex. We've got Essex, which is Eastsex.   Did we have Norse sex? Was there ever a Norse sex or something?   I can't think of one. That would be North Of Middlesex, wouldn't it?  

[00:17:47] Unknown:

Yes. It might. We could have, but we definitely had Wessex.   Yeah. We did. Wessex, I believe. Yeah. The Kings of Wessex. So we need   to re reinstate them, but we need to have these statements underneath them.   So it's like a kind of,   like an app. You you look at it, and it makes people think. You think, what's this? But we also need to have in the corner of the flag the, dragon   with the, like, the,   with this with the stars of each county.   I think that's a brilliant flag. We've got the dragon with the stars of each county, the circle. Very nice.  

[00:18:21] Unknown:

Yep. That's good. Lots of work for you to do everybody listening out there. Come on. Get a move on. Come on. If you get if anybody out there says, hey. We've already sorted out getting flags. I'll come and buy them from you. I've got so much to do, but it just needs doing.   So, I mean, I've been looking up suppliers. There are people that obviously you can get sort of print on demand   which is a fantastic tech really,   because you don't have to sort of stock up and go, oh, we need $5 or something to sort of buy loads of flags and build all the plates and everything. You just get rocking with this stuff very very quickly.   But there are so many sort of principles   and brandables with it. I was even today, I was looking up,   I think I mentioned it last week maybe,   Silver   lapel pins for men.  

I suppose they would be called lapel brooches for ladies, would they? Mhmm. Maybe they would. I'm showing my jewelry ignorance here, which is considerable.   But, I was looking up silver dragons. Now, there are quite a few. They're all Welsh of course. So the Welsh are all, you know, it's it's understandable of course. And I'm quite happy for the Welsh that they've got this dragon thing floating around everywhere. But,   the the English one that's on the flag that we were looking at last week is slightly a different it's a different looking sort of dragon. It's a bit sort of it's not as Welsh looking   and it's more sort of English, you know, drinks English beer and not Welsh beer and stuff like that.  

But they would be great. I mean, I actually came across a site selling these things that were like a £150   each. I could just hear everybody groan out there. But but   why not?   In a way, I I think we can get them a lot less expensive than that. But,   this means, of course, Eric, that,   we would often, from now on, whenever we meet in public, which of course is never,   we will have to be wearing suits with white silver dragon lapel pins   in all lapels, which sounds to me fantastic and they did look good and I thought, oh, I like that and it's almost like the smaller   and the more glitteringly   silver it is the better and I like you could there were some made out of silver pewter which is a little bit it's the dulled silver which is not as attractive. You want it sort of radiant, don't you? You want it to just shimmer in the sun or reflect it. So it's all cool stuff, really. It's all gubbins and I mean, I think it's the more you think about it,   we can see just how powerful it is. It's because it's a silent connection.  

It it it is powerful. It really is. So What what about good goodbye government,  

[00:20:48] Unknown:

welcome people power? Or goodbye bureaucracy,   welcome pea in welcome people power?   Are the are the government leaving, Eric? Are they going if they said we're off? Well, they will they will do when we we tell them we tell them we can say goodbye. You know, we don't need you.   You know, you've done a rubbish job. You're completely,   you've well, in fact, the treason that they've done is so remarkable.  

[00:21:13] Unknown:

Mhmm.  

[00:21:13] Unknown:

Mao and Stalin must be looking up from hell in absolute awe, thinking, that's fantastic.   Why didn't we ever do that?   So, yes. We need something because people would just look at the flag and think, what's that? We need I'm wondering whether we need something   few words, but really punchy. Really get there to sort of put the point over. So people say, oh, makes people think. But Yeah. Not make it ambiguous because people will always always misinterpret things. And they say, oh, you're far right, and you're near  

[00:21:47] Unknown:

Oh, you've disappeared again a little. Where have you gone?   You've just disappeared. Hang on. Hang on. That's it. That's it. Oh, I think you've sat on your mute button. That's what it is. Yeah. But it it muted itself. I don't know quite what's happened. It it did it all by itself, did it? That's  

[00:22:06] Unknown:

right. But but, you know,   but it's surprised that people misinterpret   things. You know, I mean, I've been accused almost everything  

[00:22:13] Unknown:

under the sun. Oh, you're an issue. You're an act. You're a thing. Do you blah blah blah blah and all that sort of stuff. People always but I think we're past all that. I I think it's funny. I think it's really funny. I've been saying for a couple of years that there's gonna hit a point   and we're I think we're at it now where no insult that they throw at you is gonna cause you to do anything else other than laugh.   You know, are you for real? Really? See, you're a Nazi.   Come again. What?   It's just a joke.   It is. It's a joke. Only on Wednesdays. It's really, this is the best you've got. It's it's sad. I mean, the the thing is that it is the best they've got and they're getting panicky because they got no words left. They've been they've all but they've worked for so long. We could shame people. Not anymore.  

You see, what happens what is happening obviously is that people are more than sensing. They know   that we're under the cosh and it's not just an idea now or me saying it as a sentence. It's a lived it's I hate that thing. But it's it's our direct experience because it's actually true. Yeah. And we've still got a lot of people are quiet whilst this experience dawns on them Cause it there's a lot of dawning going on out there, I think, with people and they're they're unsure. I think that's understandable and they're fearful. That's also understandable.   But it's gonna hit a point where you're just gonna go look it doesn't matter how nice you are or we are and we want to live in a nice civil space, we do.  

Unfortunately, we are being forced to not live in one by people who don't want us to even exist and so even this sort of oh, white genocide is a myth thing,   it's not.   I mean, it never was.   Now it's becoming obvious to so many more people. There's a comment here from Alice Gorgeous.   I'm probably gonna quote a lot of it's such a nice name to read out. It makes everybody feel happy. So you picked a good one there Alice unless it really is your general name. Mister your mum must have been mister and missus gorgeous which is really rather gorgeous actually.   Anyway, Alice writes, she says Paul apparently we just need 51%   of England to rescind   our consent   to be governed. It's doable.  

It is. I I think   I need to get it more into this,   the birth certificate thing. I understand the principles of it. I had explained to me a long time ago. I know the knock on effect of it. But there is a process and I think Hannah   has got a process,   in line. There is one basically there   where you file certain documents to come out of that. And we've talked about this before. I mean, I somebody sent me a clip that was on Infowars   about I don't know who sent it to me but whoever it was, thank you very much.   I think it was on Infowars, you know, Alex Jones's site about three or four years ago at the height of the COVID thing. It was to do with a woman that was pregnant   and they wanted to do a Covid test on her baby.  

And she said no and the conversation basically developed that the nurses were saying as soon as it's out of the womb it's ours, we own it. Right?   Well not if you don't sign those documents.   And it's this. It's almost like you're gonna need,   you know, if you are giving birth to children in hospitals and maybe even that rightfully should drop off as well.   Although I understand if you're a first time mum, it's it's quite a thing and you want to be reassured of all these sorts of things, but I'm, you know, I'm not the one having a child.   But that that's something to look at as well. From the very point of claiming you as a good in their commercial system, which is basically what they do, there's probably better ways of phrasing it but that's the essence of it. You're put into their commercial system and this is why all their supposed acts and statutes apply   because it's as if they forcibly enrolled you in a club without telling you And they say you are bound by the club rules. It just happens to be called government and it happens to be able to control your bank account or all these other things that they want to do.  

So I think individually a process of coming out is good.   It's even better though if you're doing it locally in little clusters and groups, and then you've got a peer group around you to sort of, you know,   support you in that process.   I mean, is it something that you've ever looked at, Erica? You know, the the idea of, you know, getting rid of your birth certificate as it were. Yeah? Yes. Yes. The late Robert Newman was trying to do it. Get rid of his birth certificate.  

[00:26:25] Unknown:

Then you can, travel at will, do what the gypsies do. They have total freedom. That's why the socialist tried to do get rid of them in the nineteen sixties.   That was a hidden,   shall we say that was ethnic cleansing that was totally hidden   in plain view.   Right. And they they   I won't go in fully into it because it's actually on my show that I did, but the the nasty tricks department of the government,   through all the, excuse my language, the crap they could at the pea at the gypsies   to drag them through the mud and mud sticks   and,   yes, as I say, unfortunately, Robert Newman, he died before he got he did it, but he was talking about actually getting out of the system. I think we need to do that. I think we can. I think I think there's now to me, I think there's a critical mass of knowledge has built up. It's in different areas.  



[00:27:16] Unknown:

I mentioned, I think, last week, Alan of Salisbury.   Maybe I did or maybe I didn't, and maybe many people here know him. I've not I've actually sat down and broken bread with Alan of Salisbury, with other people, and didn't get to speak to him too much,   but he's extremely knowledgeable about this stuff and has been talking about it for a long time.   And I'd like to get him on the show at some point soon.   I mean, in terms of looking at process, it's almost like what we just need little videos   and if I can get the time I'd certainly do them, but if anybody out there knows how to make videos, we need to get onto this stuff. There's loads of work to do and they don't even have to be long. They're sort of like this is what you do. Right? You put your trousers on, you go downstairs, you pick up a pen. This is what you have a cup of tea, you sit down, you get a piece of paper, you write this, you do that. I mean I've actually got a birth certificate due to arrive here at my home. I needed one   and I've got the original somewhere kicking around in the house.  

Sorry if I'm repeating myself everybody. These are the most exciting things that go on in my day.   And I really want it because it's got my mum and dad's signature on it. My mum especially said look I've been keeping up this for years and you've got to keep it safe And I haven't thrown it away, but I I might as well have at the moment because it's somewhere in some nook or cranny in the house even though it's not very big and, you know, it's tedious. But I've got one coming they're very late sending it. But I thought even as I ordered it, I thought really after this it's almost as if you need the Fockham Hall birth certificate registry, but then we're not gonna use the word registry because that means to assign ownership over the king. That's right. And we're not doing that. And   so it's it's getting all these conventions out of the way because they use these bits of paperwork, don't they? Your paper trail that they've   deceived you into creating with them. Out of the goodness and kindness of your heart, this is true. This is why it's so disgusting.  

We are an accommodating people who think, hey we're all in this together. Let's work together and make it work. And they're saying to you, yeah yeah we are.  

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Oh, it's a it's a con but, what I was gonna say, Paul, is why not at the bottom of the flag, at the top of the flag, have soapbox radio?   Or, you know, so that people will know what it's about. So you see the flag and you just see soapbox radio.   That's it on everyone. Mhmm. I I I have another special flag   with the logo that you've got on today's show that is mind blowing. That is perf that just says it all  

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and have a flag of that, which which is a general one for Soapbox Radio. It would be a good flag there, wouldn't it? I I told the Finn in my little promo today, but it's such a good. I said, what that is is,   I sent it to Monica actually,   prior to the show. She said, where do you get all these wonderful pictures from? I said, oh, you stick with me, love. I've got some pictures for you.   What what it's actually a photograph of my family some years ago when we were at a barbecue. This is the lie, okay? And somebody said grubs up and so we're we're pelting like mad to make sure that we get more hot dogs and cheeseburgers than anybody else, right?   And, and then of course I've had it rendered into a nice cartoon drawing. So, but it it's lovely. I mean, and broadly speaking, it can be the theme of tonight. I mean, I come up with these pictures. They don't have to have any real relation to what we talk about at all because That's fantastic.  



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Yeah. So That really sums it up. It's coming out of the gloom.   Mhmm. And that re you know, every picture tells a story, but we need to have   a central place where people could tune into Soapbox Radio. So they look at this flag, and they see, like, I don't know. It could be in Sussex.   Mhmm. And you see on the see the Sussex flag, and then underneath it says Soapbox Radio.   There it is. Wallop.   Because then it's because people are just going, oh, yes. It's a Sussex flag. Look away. But when they see something underneath   and,   it's some just something on the word at the top like,   it's time or change or I don't like change. That's that that they the politicians use that. But  

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Change for what it's about. Vote for change. Change.   Vote for change. We're gonna change things. No. You're not. You don't even know what Yeah. You don't even know what you're doing. It's just it's return. Oh, Farfaht asked us that. Farfaht was it Farfaht?  

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This is the change that's needed. This is definitely the change. Obama, all he said, this is change. This is a change. What a load of bovine   excrement.  

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The tragedy is the tragedy is, Eric, that unfortunately,   still the vast majority   of the electorate   fall for this stuff.  

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People are stupid.   That's this is what George Carlin said. People are stupid.  

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They really They're not really. They're just they're not actually totally stupid. None of us are. We're all stupid in some areas, aren't we? Yeah. I mean, if you put me in a garden and told me to grow things, I'm stupid. But at least I'm not stupid enough to try and pretend that I know what I'm doing. That's the difference, I think. You go, look, I actually don't know what I'm doing and, we need to find somebody who does so I could be responsible in that way. You've got to be able to what's the thing? Know thyself? Yeah. I'm actually pretty good at welding so I'm okay with that. So if you want any welding done, I'll do that for you. But don't ask me to start growing potatoes because right it's not a part of my skill set yet and if we can find somebody else that does it, why do you need me to do potatoes when this guy can do potatoes? Isn't that how we're supposed to kind of work together? But I think   people are,   understandably in many ways, behind the nine ball as it were when it comes to things like so called democracy, which they associate pointlessly and literally stupidly with freedom. It doesn't exist. It's complete nonsense.  

But, and, you know, and freedom. Oh, yeah. Democracy. We got freedom because of that. And,   and, of course, all the economic news, you should pay attention to it because they're not telling you lies.   Just ridiculous.   But it's true. It's true because no one, you know, I'm repeating again. People go to school, they're never given a context   to learn in the correct way. They're they're not given that they're given another one. The context is you must pass these exams, you must behave well, you do this stuff, you might go to university. Well, that used to be the story. It's a joke now. And you do this and then you'll get a good job and your mum and dad will be proud of you and you'll meet a nice woman or a nice man and it's all gonna turn out that used to be the story until about twenty five years ago, didn't you?  

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Yeah. Oh, that's right. Now it's a joke. It's a joke because Kids can't afford to you can't afford to buy a that's right. Can't afford to buy a house. Mhmm. There's hardly any the only work there is is in the service industries, such as flipping ham burgers and things like that. And you're having university.   People go getting all the qualifications of a university,   ended up in a in in a,   a burger joint and places like that. Mhmm. So, you know, it it's just oh, and and in massive jet.   It's all been designed to get people into massive debt.   And I could see this happening when,   Tony Blair Blair   came in. Yeah. He started I think it's him that started the debt with universities.  

Unbelievable.   And it started in a small way. It's not the end thin end of the wedge. But it's really not worth going to university at all now.   It's pointless because you won't get much work afterwards  

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unless you go overseas. It's all gonna get really   hairy.   I I'm spending a little bit more time each day considering the impacts of AI,   whatever it may actually really be or not, you know, and whether it really is artificial intelligence or not. But the fact is that the amount of money that's going into it and the I mean, effectively,   to a great degree,   you could say low level software coders   are   gonna be out of a job very quickly at this rate.  

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I mean it's Well, they will. But but but why aren't we I mean, for example, my dad used to talk about,   after World War two, they said that   automation automation will kill jobs. So we've got to look at reducing the working week. And there was actually studies of where they was gonna reduce the working week to a four day week or three day week   and or become like the Romans. The Romans had half the year off They had holidays because, alright, they they they their empire is built on slavery.   Well, instead of having slavery So is this one. Bought.  

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So is this one. Yeah. It's just a very sophisticated when you get a mobile phone now and TV to distract you from the fact that that effectively when it comes to the critical decisions in your life, you're not gonna be consulted on those. Decisions are gonna be taken above your head and you won't be invited to participate. I mean, you can't.   Anyway, what you're supposed to do is 60,000,000 people all gobb in off in a field. You can't sort anything out like that. I accept that. It's unworkable.   It's a ridiculous situation, which is why national government is really not necessarily required.   It's I mean, you know, it's not least you I mean, if you think of county government, if there are whatever it is, if there's these 38 counties and we've got a population here in England, I mean, I don't know whether this 70,000,000 applies to the whole of England, Scotland, and Wales.  

But you're looking at maybe what are you looking at,   per county? 10,000,000 not 10,000,000 a county.   A million, one and a half million people per county?   That's quite enough to be managing that On average, I know London is just sort of this thing,   but the other counties, you know, they're gonna vary out there in sort of people per square mile and all that kind of stuff. But overall,   you'd say, yeah, county government better.   Not really, of course. I know it's still going to attract the same sort of personality type   that are hungry for power. That's a problem.  

Well, it   it is. We've never really got past this in two thousand years of recorded history and probably even ten thousand years of it. It seems to spring up everywhere.  

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Someone's always gonna come along as gonna be able to, I'll sort your problems out for you. You just vote for me. In little areas. Yeah. But in little areas, it's like, for example, the West. Yeah. When they open up the West, there was no government there. And they written that this idea yeah. There were a few outlaws, but not what you see on the cowboy films. Most people are honest.   Decent people.   And there's none of this you you get the idea that everybody's shooting each other.   That was very, very rare.   And,   it they call it the Wild West. Why? Because government wanted you to believe that because they didn't have government. But they reckon people were totally free to do what they wanted to. You look at, say,   they reckon that, if Henry Ford started today, they reckon he'd never been able to make make motorcars because of so many regulations.  

Governments are just full of regulations.  

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We need less we don't need rules. We don't need regulations. We It's down to us as a it's down to us as a species, I guess. I mean, if you look at Rome,   this is nothing new. Although the technology that we have   is of a different type,   which we consider to be better and you could say it was necessary. There was always going to be a drive to create it because of the supposed increase in numbers of people.   Although, there was a wonderful little thing sent in on the Telegram group a few days ago about   the world's population, the amount of land that we've all got, and how much you would need to grow food. And I think they came to the view that even in current state there's enough land here to support a population on the planet of a 155,000,000,000.   Now the argument is not for that. That's not what we're saying. But it definitely is there. It's and why is it mismanaged? I don't think it is mismanaged. I think the stuff that's managed is managed well. It's just that there's a whole class of people that don't wanna do that. They wanna boss everybody else around, and it exhausts   the effective,   you know, to actually feed the parasite class. It's a parasite that builds up. There's not a waste to other ways to describe it, I don't think. Well, we're heading to extinction.  



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There was,   we're dead now. There was a there's a chap who was who looked into it Yeah. And he said that,   we're not overpopulated. We're underpopulating,   and what's gonna happen,   he said populations are folding in on themselves. China, for example, they had a one child policy.   That is now kicking in,   and there's not enough of a younger generation,   there. And older people have got to work longer.   And   it's it's having a terrible effect. And they he reckons that,   Africa and India   have almost reached their peak now, and then they're gonna drop suddenly.   And one place where it has dropped phenomenally   is,   I think it's Bangladesh.  



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Right. Bangladesh,  

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in 1970,   per   the average woman would have about five children.   Now it's one one point five. And the reason why, and there's a theory, electricity.   When electricity is introduced,   the population drops. Why? Because,   people become more middle class,   and they realize they can't afford the goodies if they have more children. So they have less children, so they can afford the goodies like washing machines and and things like that. And the population in Bangladesh has dropped like a stone, and now the average birth per woman is something like, 1.5  

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children. You see, I just I mean, it's not it's not literally a numbers game, although it's obviously   phrased like that. This is my take on it, you know, to create some fear. They've got to create some fear somewhere. Yeah. Your point about the electricity is absolutely true. I mean, they found, and you would find this anyway, it just happened to be Africa, that when they introduced electricity into villages,   now they have a light.   There's the evening reading light   and reading started to go up because you could look at the words on the paper   in the light. Right?  

And the other   nightly   popular activity between men and women that reduced as well, which led to a drop in the birth rate. But the quality of life started to increase.   So it is this it's not just about quantity. If we say like you say, well the earth could actually feed a 155,000,000,000.   A 155,000,000,000   what?   What's the condition of   what is the quality of life of these people? Do they have   the opportunity you know to learn and do all these things? I mean I don't see why not but I I often feel that the reasons given back to us by governments   are just   like this inevitable   thing or we can't cope with this. Well actually they're right. They, the caliber of individuals in government, can't cope with anything   unless it involves the self aggrandizement   of them and their peer group. That's all they're never gonna see it. They can't see it. They think this is about being in control   whereas it's it's actually about that old fashioned quality called   wisdom and working it all out and because the drive economically is I mean we've all been imbued have we not whether we like it or not be courtesy of advertising,   the culture that we sort of sit in with the aspirational   qualities.  

Well, you know, I've got I've got a bubble car but I really want a Mercedes.   There's nothing wrong with that. I'm not arguing against that. But there's kind of an odd use of our energy.   If you were to if we were to pair it back and restructure our thinking and that's so easy to say and so difficult to do because we are creatures now of, you know, habit like a train on a track. We're all going in one direction.   We think that this is what we're supposed to keep on doing and and can't we sort it all out.   But I've said this before, if you gave me   a pencil and a sheet of paper, a Fockem Hall pencil, of course, Eric, and a Fockem Hall notepad.  

Oh, we have a blender pencil. Yeah. Oh, this goes for any of us and say, look, what is it that you actually   need and are you clear about what you want? Now, many people would put down things that they think they're supposed to want.   Yeah. Like the, I want a big car and I need all this kind of stuff and and all that and I need all my holidays and these things.   But given people a bit of time and space, I would suggest that those won't be in due course after I don't know how long it would take. The sorts of things they would come up with. Certainly, as you move through life, those things   the importance of them almost evaporates. I mean, I tend to look as a car now as a fridge on wheels. The idea is it's supposed to get the contents transported fresh   on arrival at the other end and safe. That's all you're really bothered about. I I couldn't care less. We drive a little sort of car around around here. We've got a cup, you know, my son's got a couple of car my my sons each have a car. I don't have one at the moment. Get me violin out. And I kind of miss it at times because she's like, oh, I just need to bomb off and do this stuff. But it kind of works out at the moment. It's not a big deal. And   what I would suspect   we would be looking at is you would start off with   we come back to architecture again.  

The design of a of a good home space. What does that mean?   What does it mean? And I think it means a bit of land on which you could grow a bit of vegetables   and knowing how to do that, something that we're not so these are these all these old fashioned oh, I cannot be bothered to do that. But the problem is is that because we've been sort of inducted into a centralized commercial   distribution system because it's all about efficiency apparently   and not about controlling your life,   we've we've lost touch with a lot of these wonderful things   Like, what we're talking about fruit pies the other day on your show or something and about I was like, I can't remember what I was talking about. We were, weren't we? I'm just talking about blackberries and things like this and your mum That's right. Yeah. Baking pot. Now I don't have that moment in my life and I think I mentioned I bumped into a woman in the ginnel or the snicket or whatever it's called around here.  

I was gonna say the back passage, but this is a family show and   and I and she was picking some blackberries. I said, oh, it's you, is it? You're the one. This is last year or something because the blackberries are they're just coming around now. I said, you're the one that nicks them all out here? She said and she would smile and she said, yeah. I said, any chance you could make me a blackberry pie? I said, I'll pay for it. I'm serious because, you know, when Yeah. I want that, you know, that thing of somebody nearby that that loves you. It used to be your mum or your wife or your husband if he's cooking a bit, which is a bit odd if he's making fruit pies. But some of us get carried away or cakes or whatever. You know what I mean? I'm just being the old traditionalist fart when I said that. And, it's great. It's a lovely thing. My aunties used to cook things and bring them around and   so it would be things like that on my list.  

It really would. It'd be things like I could sit in the garden and be kind of quiet.   Yeah. Yeah. That's it. And I don't need a lot of stuff. I just I really like high quality food   and I'd like less football,   please.   And I'd like a reduction. I I do. I just want this too much of it and it's just silly. I want you to stop selling me or trying to sell me all this   stupid electronic entertainment garbage that is of such low quality. There's no point you even making it. It's depressing the actors.   It's depressing the production crew. They're making junk and they know it but they've got to pay the mortgage. There's just it's all junk. There's tons of it. It's all such low quality and you go, I don't need this.   And I bet you have been thinking more and more that the idea of almost like being a hermit in a little   place with your own coal fire. Yeah. It just and I'm going and why am I thinking like this? Because the is is the modern world is exhaustingly   stupid.  

It's not that I'm against the excitement of technical progress. These things are amazing. They're quite incredible, but they're always used, it seems to me, in the wrong way because   again and again and again at the end of the line, you've got this profit motive stuff and and we've got this   aberrated   growth. It's like we've got gigantism   of the economy. It's got to grow. Why? I'm still I'm still not getting what I want right now. I can't get a decent chicken because you've filled it full of junk.   Right? It's full of growth hormones as you've mentioned before. You know, why can't I get a steak at a decent price? There's not enough room for cows. There is. You're just they're mangling everything,   because Yeah. They don't like us. Yes, ma'am. I mean, really, in the end as a child, that's all I'm gonna say. They don't like us because we we created some wonderful structures in the past and everybody here, no doubt, is familiar with all those sort of, you know, the cottages in the Cotswolds.  

And I bet nine out of 10 of us wanna live in a place like that. I do. I wanna live with a little beck at the end of the garden and all that kind of stuff, you know. That's right. And we would we would be living like that if we hadn't had traitors  

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in,   places of authority. That's Mhmm. That's the real fact of the matter. We could buy now with the resources this country's got,   make the Swiss look poor.   But no, we haven't. And   this is what gets me.   I'm old enough to remember a time when there was no such thing as homeless. You've always had tramps, but they were tramps by choice.   But there was no homeless, so it actually solved the homeless problem. Mhmm. Then all of a sudden,   in the nineteen seventies,   about mid seventies, it started to creep back again. Mhmm. Why?   And that's when they do a destroying the family unit.  

So you had homeless people on the streets, kids being chucked out their home and things like that.   So   this disruption of the family unit   has been it's an evil thing that's happened. It's it's like a growth that's come in, and we've got to destroy that growth. It's horrible.  

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I think they're all outgrowths   of this empire of the merchants.   This mindset that says,   we must compete with other producers to dominate a market   to create value for our shareholders.   These are   not even human beings. These are corporations   I. E. Dead things.   And the creation of corporations has created a warp in our thinking about what's important. It's like I've said, you know, the economic news apparently is really important because the economy, the economy man. What about the economy, you know? And you go, yeah, but even when it was good, did it really was it really better for you? It's not.   I I don't see it, you know. And then you're told, well, you won't be able to afford a new iPhone. Oh, no. I'm gonna cry for no time whatsoever over that. I mean, these things are machine.  



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Sorry. I don't mean to shime it, but the fact is, look at,   Seiko. Now Seiko made the first watch   that was untouched by human hands in 1965.   Seiko five. Yeah. I'm a so I'm I mean, the watches. Now the Seiko five,   that's a you think how advanced it was in 1965,   and they're still producing them because they're so good. Mhmm. And there's no   human activity   as such. All every human activity there is is to maintain the machine. That's it. The machine just goes twenty four hours, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang. Bring in now if those watches were made by hand, that'd be a phenomenal price. They're not it's brought the price down. They're about a £100 or something like a £150.  

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Still wear watches? Do you wear one? I'm interested to know. Wear a watch. Yeah. Gentlemen out there and ladies, do you still wear wristwatches? I mean, I would have thought the mobile phone sort of taken the place of that. You just go, what time is it? You're flipping your phone, don't you? You know? No. It needs a wristwatch.  

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I I was I I I I'm obsessed with wristwatches.   Oh, yeah. But the thing is oh, yeah. Yeah. I like wristwatches.   But the the fact is, these things like smartphones can be made by machine.   That's what machines are for. You think of,   washing. Now once upon a time, you had a wash day where the, mother would be most of the day washing. Now you just shove it in a washing machine, walk away, and leave it, and the washing machine does it for you. When it's finished, it just beeps. You open the door, and it's done. And all you have to do is dry it. These things   are   they are slaves. Machines are our slaves. So why can't we utilize them and have more leisure time? And then at the country Because, Eric  

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I mean you're right. We ought to be able to. We should, woulda, shoulda, coulda and all that kind of stuff.   But it's like the thing when   when the agrarian revolution came along and suddenly put a lot of men out of work on the land.   Now at the time that wasn't such a bad thing because there were loads of other things that needed doing.   So I think I mentioned before early fifteen hundreds over here, 20 men working on the land   or 20 people working on the land   would feed 24.   So there was only enough surplus to feed,   you know, whatever it is. Another 15% of the population. 85% of the people produced all the food and 15%   could do something else, you know, like form an army and do stuff and tax you or whatever they were going to get up to. Right?  

But that was required. We've got a mature situation here. Maybe we haven't. Maybe we'll look back on this and go, oh no. It was so terrible. But from my for obviously from the path that we've trod over the last few hundred years, there's a lot of sophisticated machinery which didn't exist.   Electronics have transformed things ever since the transistor arrived, done all sorts of things. The problem with it is is that when these advances come along,   we don't get a divvy.   We don't get one. Now so if you were to say, well there really is a nation   and you know a tribe of people of the same race with a shared and received history culture and language, and there are many nations like that, and it's where the bulk the vast bulk of people are happiest   because   they're vibrating as it were and in that space with their own types of people and develop all sorts of subtle little things that can't be developed when it's all messed up. So it creates all that the true riches of natural diversity under the laws of nature. These are good things.  

Why is it not the case   that when a great   benefit comes to the nation,   I don't get some extra money in my dividend book? Because you should.   And I've mentioned this about the bank. Right? So,   we might as well play this now, actually. Somebody sent me a clip. Oh, what time is it? No. Well, maybe I maybe cover this in a few minutes after Monica's joined us in about ten minutes time.   We have a situation, don't you, where everybody's banging on about CBDCs.   Well, the central bankers are.   They're going on about CBDCs.   And a CBDC,   a central bank digital currency, is not Bitcoin.  

Bitcoin is this event.   It's   a tester.   It's obviously a CIA operation.   It's not Satoshi,   Nikkor Elastic or whatever his name was. That was just a lovely cover story that everybody is so romantically interesting, you know. So that's fine. Elastic.   What Api's name was. It was something like that one.   Satoshi Nikkor Nakatomi or something. It's a great name. I love that everybody wants to be called that. And,   so that's a lot of guff as usual that comes out of these sort of spaces. Oh, look at this spontaneous thing that nobody could anticipate. Yeah. Right.   And,   that's different because there has a market as below it, but they've been using that as a trial balloon, a test balloon to see how markets could be built and do all these sorts of things.  

There's nothing wrong with a central bank digital currency,   but there's everything wrong with central banks.   So that   by everything I simply mean that you and I   don't own the Bank of England.   And I want you, Eric, to own it. And I want everybody listening here to own it. And I want my bit and everybody   that exists   who's   on the land of England, to go back to what Hannah was saying about, those of us that live on England,   right?   It's our bank, isn't it? And what's the purpose of it? What's its true purpose? It's not to make a profit.   I mean it's become that.  

It's not. It's simply to furnish you and me with enough purchasing power to shift goods and services around so that things can stay   harmonious within a certain thing. There's always going to be certain fluctuations and the weather will go bad and crops will fail. Yeah, this happens, but we can save up and deal with all of that. We've got computers that can   organize just about everything, but they're being used to organize the ruin of our life  

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not to actually bring the benefits to us because someone says I gotta control it all, you know. But it's quantity, not quality. Now one little thing which irritates me. Nowadays, you see women making pies,   I can understand in the factory, but I I need to hang around with you a bit more. Alright. Okay. No. You see, you know and they've got plastic gloves on. Yeah. Now when your auntie or your mom made made made pies, she didn't have plastic gloves. There was a love that went into that pie. There was a a kind of kindness there. Yes. And, you know, you and there was something about it. If there was if they wore plastic gloves, that would have that that link would have gone. You know, you you at this point, you're like, oh, my mom made this or my auntie made this. There's something about it.   And I think there's something about plastic   Yeah. That really gets up my bloody hooter. It really does. It's horrible. It is. It's it's,  

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it's antiseptic.   There's something dead about it. It's it's completely dead. It's not alive.   And it's, you know did you I mean, did was your granny alive when you were a a wee lad? Did you was your granny alive? Yes. And did your granny eat and cook? Yeah? Yes. As far as I know, yes. And what was granny's food like? We my mom used to set me up to my Lovely.   Yeah. I know. It's a thing. I think many a mother's nose has been put out of joint by her children being introduced to her mother   and her mother's cooking and they all go, oh, we really like grandma's cooking. Of course, it's a bit deflating for your mom. You don't mean to be harming her, but my mom used to take me up to my grandma's on a Wednesday when I was like four, five, six, just early days of going to school and all that kind of stuff. And, we'd go up on a Wednesday and I remember going up one I can remember it now. My mouth's watering. It's ridiculous.   She made a sort of steak and potato pie.  

Oh, wow.   I just wanted to go back. Are we going back to grandma's? Why? I want more pie.  

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It was just fantastic. Well It was brilliant. My mom was the cook, though. I mean, she cooked, though. She learned to cook through the war.   So you had sort of, like, wartime recipes.   And Yeah.   With, you know, lovely,   pastry and   steak and kidney pie. We've all the steak and all the kidney in it. Oh, oh, lovely. Oh, gorgeous.   The other one is, crumble.   Rhubarb crumble. Rhubarb crumble. My mom's rhubarb crumble. Yeah. Wow.   Oh, and taste it now. It it is these things,  

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you couldn't get that in a shop. There's just something about the way she cooked. You just can't can't But there's a theme building up here, Eric, and I'll ask for your conversation. We keep getting around to food, pies, fruit,   and stuff like that. I mean, it's probably more important than all this other stuff that we talk about to be quite honest. Because it puts you in touch with that kind of what's the word? Is it kinesthetic is probably the wrong, but they're just that direct physical love of life.   You get a lot through your taste buds, don't you? Food is very powerful   in that way. It's very sort of well, you know, you can all that kind of stuff. It's, it's tremendous. Anyway, we're coming towards the end of the first hour, so it's time for a tune   and, Monica will be joining us after this tune. Patrick sent me this a little bit earlier today and it sounded good, but he said that the lyrics are absolutely atrocious, which is always a good recommendation really.  

It's called gotta get Back to You. I like to say it like that as if it's very very starchy. Gotta Get Back to You by Tommy James   and the Shondells.   You ever heard of them, Eric? The Shondells.  

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Sounds like nasty disease, doesn't it? I've got a Have you got the Shondells?  

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I have, actually. Yes. Can you just make us an ointment for those?   Absolutely.   What are you doing, mate? We're going to take a break.   You're listening to Paul English live here on WBN three two four. We'll be playing a little song and a little bit and bobs and then, hour two we'll be joined by Monica Schafer   and we'll be thundering into other things. We might still talk about pies, you never know, but, we'll we'll try and move on to other stuff. Pies can't hold our attention forever. All that's more easily said than done. Here's the Shondells anyway with Tommy James, whoever he might be.  

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I wasn't listening to the lyrics of that song. Welcome back to part two.   I need to probably make those breaks a bit longer really. Maybe we have two songs next week or something like that. But that was very twangy. I quite like that twangy guitar. I don't know what you thought about that, Eric. Did you like the Twanger Lux guitar in that? It didn't  

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really   appeal to me. You know, I prefer the nineteen thirties   Happy Days Are Here Again.  

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Happy days. Alright. So you that was a sort of sixties disco type thing, wasn't it? With sort of patent shoes and slightly unruly long hair   and very large may maybe those pear drop t, shirts where the lapels got bigger and bigger and bigger. That kind of stuff. It might be something like that. Yeah. And flared flared trousers with turn ups, which probably  

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cause more injuries than anything else.   They probably do. Flares with turn ups.   Yes. You walk out and you get your foot tangled in the turn ups or you go, what's it overhead? Yes.  

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Funnily. Welcome back to part two, everyone. Yeah. Welcome back to part two. Hope you're all doing fine with your turn ups and your and your trousers and everything like that. And, Monica Schafer's here with us and, good afternoon, Monica. How are you doing on this, hopefully, beautiful Canadian afternoon for you? What's going on?  

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Yes. Hello. Hello.   Good to be back with you, Paul and   Eric.   Hi, Monica. Know if there there are others there. It says five people, but that might just be a gold They're all lurking. They're lurkers, Monica. I don't know who they are. They just turn up and do things. Now they And you're you're talking about cuffs on pants.  

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Was that your turn ups? Turn ups or cuffs, I think. Is that what you're talking about? I think Eric was. I don't know what he was talking about, really. I was just sort of being polite. What were you talking about?  

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Well, do you remember the flare flare turn ups? That that was the worst flashing design ever. You have turn ups on your flares. Oh, on the flares, that too. Yes. The combination that that would be a little bit of a dangerous combination. You're right. But the flare  

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the the turn ups, the cuffs,   it just reminds me of my father. There's kind of a funny story about him because he was   always   he never,   paid any attention to what's in fashion or not.   Absolutely none.   But one day at work,   he you know, his colleagues were saying to him, oh, Otto.   I did not know that you're so so fashionable ahead of the times. You're ahead of the times. Because he was wearing some pants   that were probably 40 years old   that he happened to, you know, bring along with him from Germany, from the old country. And they were these quite baggy   corduroy pants that had cuffs on the bottom, and nobody was wearing cuffs at this time. I don't know if that was   in the early seventies or whenever it was. I don't know exactly when cuffs came back in, but they'd already made it on to the New York fashion scene, and that's where the fashions   get set, you know, the trendsetters.  

And and they were about to come across the rest of the continent, but hadn't yet. So this this colleague of my dad's,   he he knew all that and he was looking at my dad like, wow, he's ahead of it, but he was actually very far behind. So that's the moral of the story.   Did you  

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Yeah. Go ahead. Did you did you cringe a bit? I my dad, thankfully, never tried to pursue trends.   If he had done in the seventies, I would have   been mortally   mortified and embarrassed beyond belief. The idea of them sort of pitching in   with what really now looking back on it was some horrific clothes designs, but when you're young, you have no you have literally no idea.   Oh, I've got to have a pair of bell bottom trousers. Really? Yeah. Why well, everybody else does and I'm only 14. I can't work things out yet. So there was all that kind of stuff, you know, but,   I I it must have been quite a challenge for you to find out that suddenly, Monica, your dad was trendy, and he didn't know it either.  



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Yeah. My dad was similar, but he always wore a shirt and tie. Oh, my   god.   Never ever   ever look relaxed.   So you go somewhere,   a nice relaxing day out on the countryside. There he was. His suit,   shirt, and tie.  

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No. There's something about that generation that they   they were showing, I don't know, respectfulness,   I guess. It   it it was respect for,   common decency. Well, I I don't think that my dad did that on the picnics or or camping, but he certainly did wear   shirt and tie   to go to ordinary places, like to go grocery shopping. I mean, this is after my mother had died already, but, otherwise, she had done all that. But or to go to the dentist or to go just wherever   in an ordinary   place where most people don't wear a shirt and tie,   but he did. And people did notice that. I think it's the the times. Right? Because then what's the other extreme? People walking around in their their shabbiest.  

Oh, and it's even oh, the fashion to have torn jeans or torn whatever. You pay more for those shabby clothes. So, really, that's a degradation of   our culture and a disrespect,   not only a disrespect for your own   decency, but for everybody else that you come across. I I think that's an interesting observation.  

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Yeah. I guess it's all to do with the grinding down the standards of beauty.   But I and also it would be driven by the mating game, wouldn't it? So I guess if you're a I don't know really, not that I am a female, but if you're a bloke anyway, you're going, well, what is it that girls are looking for that's attractive? I better not look too sort of outdated. I mean,   I went to school with,   fellow students who literally didn't have a clue.   Now, I wasn't a dedicated follower of fashion, but I just made sure I was kind of mediocre in the middle. I couldn't get all giddy about that. I knew some people that were and because they were boys   or, you know, teenagers,   I was embarrassed on their behalf   for the fact that they were so interested in buying a new this, that, and then went, are you serious? Really? I mean, it's just to keep you warm. I just need a pair of jeans and some shoes. I've gotta go kick footballs and some t shirts. What else do you need? I mean, it was just silly really, but,   you become aware, of course, that girls take a very keen interest in that sort of thing far far earlier than boys. And I guess it's   it's obviously very imp well, it is. It's probably more important. They are the radiant flower in their youth and they're seeking to attract   the wasps   or bees or whatever. So,  

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Oh, yes. But I'll tell you something else. My dad would never leave the house unless his shoes were absolutely   glistening   Mhmm. Because he'd been in the army. I mean, his shoes, you could see your face to them. They were so glistening.  

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And I I imagine your dad was a bit like that, Monica. Oh, yes. Yes. His shoes were always in top form. He made sure they were polished, and and   they might not you might not have seen your reflection in them like what you describe.  

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I I But, no, he he had good shoes and they were in good form. Oh, yeah. I I most of my uncles were like that. My dad was like that too. But I actually think I I ended up with a sort of shoe polish.   What could I call it? Chip on my shoulder. My dad was   always there cleaning my shoes.   Right? He would clean them.   And I wanted to do   it but apparently I wasn't good enough when I was young to clean the shoes because he had tremendous elbow grease and spit and of course my shoe the shoes that I wore when I went to school they were very shiny. They were great, you know. But I really wanted to get in, but I think the first time I tried it, I obviously got black shoe polish everywhere and all over the kitchen floor and stuff like this. And this was met with a kind of we can't be doing that, but I want to. And I I always felt that it turned me into sort of some sort of slob by not doing my own shoes. It was funny really. Of course, I did learn to polish them later on in life. And,   if I had polishable shoes right now, I would be polishing actually, I do. I've got one pair that are those proper gentleman's British sort of shoes. We've banged on about shoes here before, haven't we? But, and I do polish them every now and again. Yeah. Yeah. All that kind of stuff. So But so but but dad But but  

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dad showed me how to do it to the army standards.   And I did it, and he looked at it. There's a joke. He said, so when are you gonna start polishing it? And it is a joke. But He crushed you, didn't he? He crushed all the life out of you with that little comment. That was it. You were ruined from that point onwards. I can imagine. Is it was it throatly bits and circles? That's what he called it. Throatly bits and circles. And he went in round and you it's a special way you did it. Yeah. And it's surprising,   you don't use a brush. You use a cloth.  

And it's amazing how you can get them up to an incredibly   high standard.   You know, and and eventually, you see crumbs. You you got there. You know? He he was always,   encouraging my dad. He joked, first of all, but he had a lot of encouragement.   He he always sort of, that's why my my dad had that quality,   of always anything you did, he would encourage you. You know? That that was that was the thing.  

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Yeah. It's nice that you were so close to your dad. It really is. It it it's just so lovely to hear that. I'll I'll tell you the the,   other side of this part of the story about my dad and how he presented himself when he went out the door is how he,   was at home in terms of   he was so frugal   that he would wear, you know, old clothes at home. It's just in in the privacy of the home. Right?   And then   he   well, when my mother was sick and and dying, he learned a few things like darning socks and darning   wool sweaters and that kind of thing because she had done those things before. But he it was very important to him to be able to do certain things.   And and then she did indeed die many years before him. So he was on his own for quite a few years, and he he was really into darning   and fixing his socks and fitting fixing his sweater. He had this favorite sweater,   a favorite sweater of his, and and there was so much,   darning on it that by the time he died,   there was more   replacement   yarn in it than original yarn in it.  



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And it was his favorite sweater  

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in the home anyway, but it was really quite funny. Actually, we we had that on display alongside with beautiful pictures and whatnot at at the memorial service that we did for him because it was just so him, you know.  

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It's just grown into it. Oh, bless him. Oh, that sounds great. It's  

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oh, that really is and that lovely memories. You know what I mean? Yes.   That that I tell you something. That generation   could repair anything.   Literally anything. We never had the repairman come to our house. My dad repaired everything.   He'd make things last forever.   Incredible.   Because it was all make do amend because during the war, they had nothing. Yes. So they had to make something out of nothing. And, well, the German army had even less, didn't they? I mean, when you saw their rations for the,   Russian front,   poor sods. They survived on virtually nothing.  

Yeah. Yeah.  

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And, the And okay. And the women's side of that story is that   they,   like, in order to have   clothing,   they would take,   you know,   curtains and make skirts out of them. And then That's right. You know, just make do. Like, just make the clothing out of whatever they had.   And, yes, it was,   those times were were pretty frugal, pretty rough, pretty tough.   And then when my parents came to Canada, they came in the early fifties,  

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and they came really at the height of sort of the the throwaway mentality, throwaway society, and and it just was such a, you know,  

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everything away. It was so   going against their grain, like, you   yeah. It really bothered them a lot actually to see that. So, yeah. It was interesting times.  

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Yeah. I think those things tended to rub off. They rubbed off of me. Yeah.   Like,   I, I even to this I eat everything on the plate. Even if I don't eat it, everything.   Same here. Same here. Same here. Yeah. Now I just don't put these on the plate. Last few years, I've stopped putting so much on. But if it's on there, I'm eating a lot because it was just drilled into me. If you don't eat all that, you're not getting any pudding. And I wanted pudding. I wanted pudding bad. It was important. Right? It was the great treat of the day. So it all got eaten. Unless it was liver, in which case, I refused to eat liver. I couldn't stand liver when I was a kid. It was very, very difficult. Same here. I can't stand liver either. Oh, it's awful. Even though my mom did it really nice with bacon. I like the bacon, but I didn't like the liver. Yeah. Well, I'll tell you another one. Did you ever have the sheets where where it wore in the middle, the cut down the middle of the sheet,  

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then put these sides  

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to the middle, and then sew up the middle? So you get a sheet with a with a with, like, a pleat up the middle. That makes sense. Well, that is a brilliant way to do it. I've been fixing sheets by just taking, you know, sacrificing one old sheet and cutting the outside parts, the good parts, and making a big patch in the middle of the   the other sheet that I wanna fix. But I didn't think of that to cut it down the middle and reverse it.  

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Yeah. And then they do a do do a pleat down the sides, and you got almost a new new sheet.   And, it it it lasts twice as long as yeah. That's what a pair of used to do. I think Eric's for that idea. Thank you. Yeah. You need to do some videos on that, Eric. Eric's home sewing of them. Video series. Yeah. I'm I'm a tight fisted git. You know, I mean, I I don't seriously, I I just That's a good name for a channel. I'm serious. It's a good name. Yeah. The tight fisted git.  

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Yeah. Yeah. How how to make all ends meet. Stingy.   Stingy. Mister Stingy.   Yeah. Yeah.   Don't spend a penny. Spend other people's money. Absolutely.  

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Yeah. It's why you take well, I mean, why why people ask me, why do I take such big steps?   And I say, well, it's to save money on on on the footwear.   Huge   strides.   Oh my goodness.  

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I used to get I used to get that from my mum though. Stop shuffling around. You're wearing your shoes out. Did you get that one? Yes. Yes. Stop it. You're wearing the shoes out. Stop doing that. You know, these shoes cost money, you know. I said, yeah. Alright.  

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And also, never allowed to go barefooted. Now I'm barefoot most of the summer, but never allowed to go barefooted. That shows poverty. Oh, you'd never go barefooted. You're always Oh, so interesting. So interesting because, you know, I mean,  

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we we are encouraged to go barefoot though. Like, I think that, it's a good thing to go barefoot. Right? We I agree. I agree. We get grounded.  

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Spot on. Yeah. We do get grounded.   Shall we talk about banking?   It's a good segue. I didn't know how to do the segue. I just didn't know how to do it. Segue. I don't thought, you know, I just thought I'd I'd burst out. Well, it doesn't have to be all be about banking. I got a couple of clips today, actually, that were sent to me, and the people know so. So thank you very much.   You've heard of this,   woman, Christine Lagarde.   We've got Ursula von der Leyen who's just Yeah. Basically fond of lying. I mean, because that's all she is. I mean, she's a complete, you know, whatever you want to call her. Insert insult here.   Christine Lagarde is I think she's French, isn't she? Eric, is she French or something? I don't know. Anyway, she's she's pretty high up in the European Central Bank. We were just mentioning briefly there a few minutes ago about central banks and central bank digital currencies.  

This does actually lead into something as well an observation in the second clip about   banking during World War one, which I want to drop in as well just to sort of illustrate a problem. We'll see where it takes us. But she did a little, speech the other day.   Now she,   she uses the word   anchor a lot. And I just want you to notice that she's got the word wrong.   There's a letter missing from the beginning of that word and that letter that   letter is w. So when you hear this clip, which is about one and a half minutes, just put the w in before ever or just remember that that's really what she means to be saying. She just kinda got it wrong. But this is just to give you an idea really of the sort of blather that they're coming out with,   in terms of trying to appeal to us on certain things. Here's here's Christine letting us know just just what's what. There is clearly an aspiration, a desire for digital payments,  

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much more so than it was in the past, and this is growing. We are now in the service that we've conducted across the 19 come 19 members of the Euro area. We have more than 50%   of the respondents who say we want digital payments.   Well,   less use of cash,   demand for secure and riskless,   payments.   Where do we stand? We central bankers. We have been operating as a monetary anchor in relation to the commercial banks and the private money.   If we are not in that game, if we are not involved in experimenting and innovating   in terms of digital,   central bank money, we risk losing the role   of anchor that we have played,   for many, many decades.  

And we have historical examples of period where   the central bank,   monetary anchor   was not there,   and that precipitated   crisis after crisis. That certainly was the case at the time of the free banking in the nineteenth century. Do we want to go back to those days? Probably not. I would say certainly not from our vantage point. As a result of which, we have to respond to the demand for those digital payments in order to maintain the role of anchor that we have, been playing, regularly.  

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So that that's Christine,   using the word anchor incorrectly,   as I said, three or four times there   in that sentence. But I found that little communication very interesting because it's like a desperate plea   for them to carry on doing what she perceives is a good job.   And,   I don't know if it was in that clip. I think it was where she's talking about we don't want to go back to the free banking that they had in the eighteen hundreds because she said that led to all sorts of problems. One of the things she fails to point out,   whether she knows it or not, is the the free banking period or when there was a lot of competition, particularly in The States with all sorts of regional banks doing their own thing.  

Those guys were crooks.   This is true.   But they got together and formed this super crooked thing in The States called the Federal Reserve. We've got a super crooked thing over here called the Bank of England.   And basically it's the same character type that are behind all of it. It's not like the central bank's going to solve that problem. The central bank is an extension of exactly the same problem that we've always had which is that attracts idiots   and demons and thieves into that space   who then, of course, talking gobbledygook like she tends to and wants to do to convince us all. And when she was talking about there's a demand for this, there isn't   a demand from whom? Who do you think the demands   from? So it's an exciting topic. I can see it's really got you it's got you all kiddie out.  

Isn't it exciting?  

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You've explained it very very well, Paul, that the basic   sort of a snapshot there of what happened. And, you know, what what I noticed is that   they always like to package things   in a way   that makes it sound like it's gonna be for for our   benefit.   So It's for us. Either our yeah. Yeah.   Safety or security or for our health or now for, you know, that that the   oh, people are begging for this   digital   banking so that there's no,   you know, crooked dealings or whatever it was she said. I can't remember exactly what she said. She was That's right.   You know? But,   yeah, it's always packaged to make it sound like   we want it or it's good for us or all of the above. You know? So that that's important to take note   of because that's the way it they package all their lies, you know, make it sound like we need this.  



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Yeah. Well,   Churchill,   was, before he got into power, was saying in 1939,   the whole country wants us to bring in the draft or conscription as it's called over here. That was a complete and utter lie.   But he actually said that. And people go, what?   Hey. What? You know? And   it it was that kind of a a better it said for the city of London. I do not know because he was bought and paid for by the city. But he would say things like that. You know, the whole country wants this. We've got to do what the country wants, and that and that is complete and utter bovine   excrement.  



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He made it. And it's Yeah. I think in sales terms, you know, it's called the assumptive close.   That's really what they're doing.   It's where   their language is phrased in such a way that it's just well, it's obvious that this is the best solution. It's just an assumption   that you're gonna go along with it because look look at all these benefits I'm telling you about. But as I said, she used the word anchor about four times there and it in every single instance, it needs w before it. When she said,   you know, we have to remain as the anchor, you know, you get the because that's what they've always been. I mean, this is not a beneficial arrangement.   She's just talking about the interests of the central bankers. She's not talking about us. She wouldn't even be able to do that because she's not got the and I'm not even having a go at her. They're all like that or her in particular.  

They can't see this stuff.   They're literally blind to the fact that they are totally surplus to requirements. We don't need them. Of course, you know,   but we don't. What we need is you need a plan to say, look, there is an honorable way of actually managing this money thing and this isn't it. Why would we want you, the crooks? I mean, they're saying, well, we're out of control   and we can do this to solve it. My response is, well, why is it why would we employ you,   the people that have allowed it to get out of control,   to come up with this?  

You're obviously unfit.   It's suddenly it's as if the whole history of bank has always been a mess, you know, we could never really cover it. But now we've got this great solution for you. It's called central bank digital currencies, and it's gonna be great.   I don't think so. I'm not buying it. Sorry. Excuse my sort of cynicism, but I think that's highly unlikely. What's your track record in terms of helping the people? Oh, hang on. Just a minute. You haven't got one. That's a bit of a blow, isn't it? You know? So   it's a ridiculous way that they talk to us. Unfortunately, it's very effective because people think that she's an expert, and she is, of course, in terms of all the machinery   of central banks and moving all that paper around and making things balance out. And you go, well, we need these people to do that. Well, under the current madness of the system, yeah, you do. I guess they're like a sort of insane glue that holds it together. But allowing them to come up with a solution to it.  

No. We want an act we want the solution, which is the removal of it in its current form.   And Bitcoin would be better. I mean, I'm not saying it would be perfect but it would be better or the better solution would be like I was saying,   everybody needs to own   their own national bank. Why haven't you got instead of getting a birth certificate, why don't you get a bank certificate when you're born? You go, there you go. You've just been born. You've got a divvy now in the national wealth because you're part of the nation. You might only be one minute old, but there you go. You get a divvy. Why do why don't you get a divvy? I don't under why why is it an exclusive thing? She never points out. Central banks, of course, have like this big authoritative thing that they're all privately owned.   I mean, what?  

They're owned by a cartel   that used to be called free bankers that were causing trouble even back then.   So I just thought I'd I'd just thought I'd show some banking stuff. You don't mention it for ten or three weeks. Yeah. There's one point you made, Paul, about  

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why would we   trust those who got us into this mess to take us out of this mess. A very good point.   I would,   contest one other thing that you said, though, that you said something about blind. They're so blind. Well, no. They're not blind. They're doing everything quite deliberately that they're doing.  

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Oh, they are. Maybe you maybe you meant something else there with that. Well, I just meant blind in relation to the goal that they're so they're not really blind. No. They know exactly what they're doing. But from the perspective of the man in the street, the man in the street needs to know that they're blind in terms of seeing us and what the actual real solution is. Because they'll never see the solution that's required   because   the only solutions they're looking for is a more effective efficient and controlling central bank system in private hands. And we go, well, we understand that that's what you want, but none of us want that. So why don't you go and have one with your, you know, 15,000   central bankers? You can do that, and we just like to get a national economy running where we've all got a divvy in it, you know.  

Of course, then they said, well, this is communism. No. No. We're living under communism right now. Don't you remember? We've got a central bank that's privately owned. This is communism.   So   it's just it's one lie after another to cover up another lie and to keep the narrative going. And, of course, you've now got I mean, we've lived with this our entire life.   The the frenetic anxiety   over the economy is permanent. My entire life, it's been about this and yours too, no doubt.   As if   in spite of all this wealth and stuff that is literally being produced and can be produced better than it is right now,   we've got this economic system which causes the production of ever shoddier short term life goods because it has to.  

It has to do that because otherwise people are not gonna turn up in five years to buy a new one and borrow money to do it.   The the whole of the sort of knock on effect is so complex.   It's not it probably isn't really worth working it all out. But in simple terms, if you've got a diseased system, you don't keep sort of trying to make it less diseased.   That's all she's talking about.   It it's not that there's actually an alternative like, forgiving all the debts. How do you just write all the debts off? And cash is great. Let's you know, we're talking about cakes and buns and things that we can touch. Cash is better   because it slows life down. They're always talking about speeding everything up   and yet the quality of life is degrade as it speeds up, the actual moments of   richness   where you just even have a moment, where you have a sort of breathing point, they're disappearing. Everything's just literally,   you know, high speed mice in in the wheel.  

Quicker. We need to improve the economy. Okay. Okay. We better.   You know, it's bonkers.   I know I'm only stating the bloody obvious but,   but there we go. Anyway,   there was another one as well that sort of fell on my lap as well. I've mentioned,   the economist doctor Richard   Werner,   German guy, but he's lived and worked mostly in England. He's done some great interviews. He lives actually or he works not far from me. He's over in   is it Chichester? Or he's maybe a bit further on that, but he's only about 30 or 40 miles from where I'm now sat. I'd love to get him on the show but I think the audience size is probably not up his street at the moment. He's a very bright guy and he's operated at the highest levels of banking and he's basically   a very   wonderful whistleblower. That's really what he is and he points these things out. Anyway, this is a little in he's just done a big interview with Tucker Carlson. I can't play all of it. It's way too long. This is excuse me. This is just the opening shot,   where he's talking about something and it's with regard,   it kind of falls more into our bailiwick with regards to,   the history of   warfare. He's he's just addressing a point with regards to World War one and banking. And this is this is a known point here, but it's always worthy of repetition.  

Just listen to him talking to Tucker Carlson here. The central bank of  

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the United States, the Fed,   was created   during right before the war. What was the role of the central banks during that war? From 1917,  

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The US and Germany were at war, and their economies   organized as war economies at the pinnacle of the war economies are the central banks. So who were the key players   in the German central bank, the Reichsbank, which is 100% privately owned? Was somebody called   Max Warburg or Max Warburg, you might say in English, and who was   at the pinnacle, in fact, was a founder   of the Federal Reserve and who was the key person there, Paul Warburg,  

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his brother. But, of course, the soldiers have to kill each other, and these two countries are Wait. Wait. Wait. The head of the German Central Bank and the head of the American Central Bank were run by brothers during a war between The US and Germany? Yes.  

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There we go. Wow. Wow. Wow. That was that was a powerful clip. What was the name of the man who was being interviewed there? Yeah. Don't Richard  

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Werner, w   e r n e I. He's worth looking up and following. He makes appearances all over. There's some wonderful wonderful interviews with him. He's very measured because he knows he talks banker speak.   There was a wonderful interview that occurred with him about six or seven years ago. He's talking to a a British banker. Nice guy, by the way. Some of the these guys are clueless, many of them. They're really clueless.   And they were he was, they had a sort of a show host. I'll I'll try and find that clip and we'll play it in a future show if I can dig it out. I've got to get my clip archive sorted out because these are very important clips to reinforce this point over and over and over and over again.   He's explaining to this banker   the the money creation process, and this guy really didn't   know. And he's the head of some massive investment bank in the city. He didn't know. Wow.  

You see, it it's not so much that it's evil. It is evil, but it's it's greed which creates stupidity. The greed gets in the way of people really seeing what they're doing.   And why would they see it? Because they get to drive around in Rolls Royces and wear fine suits and have their shoes polished by people like us. Right? And stuff like that. They've gone grown used to all that kind of stuff but the fundamental engineering of it is completely shot. Now he's the guy, Werner is the guy that came up with the term quantitative easing,   but he accepts that he's complete horseshit   as well. This is what's interesting about him. Right? He's a very interesting guy. I'm gonna listen to the rest of the interview with Carlson. I don't know how long the whole thing is. I'm I'm not gonna play any more clips from it because I didn't have time to review it. I thought forty five minutes or whatever is I can't play that on the show.  

But he's really a great guy to to follow-up on all this kind   of stuff. And, you know, if we just go back you you see, I thought the telling the many telling little phrases just in that very brief clip,   but the main one or one that really leaps out is that it's privately   owned and Christine Lagarde is working for the descendants   of the private owners   of this central banking mafia cartel.   It's literally a gang of spivs.   That's what they are. They're spivs. They're deceivers.   It's a massive deception   and so many people at the top benefit from it that they they don't even probably even know themselves how it actually works. We've mentioned here, haven't we, before about, Godfrey Bloom, Eric, and his speech about Yeah. Ten or twelve years ago in the European Parliament where he's talking to the politicians. He said, the problem you have is you don't understand how banking works.   And none of our parliamentarians   today in Britain, what's left of it, they don't know either.  

Now really, seriously, how are you supposed to manage an organization   as big supposedly as a nation when the people at the helm are literally malinformed   about the driving opinion behind it all?   You can't.  

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Here's the thing.   If they don't understand how the banking system works, I would   say that   none of us can understand it because it is not   understandable.   It it is complete   nonsense. Right? Like, it does not make any sense.   I I'll tell you a little story. When when we were in grade school, I'm sure it was elementary school, probably grade three or four, so maybe we were   ten ten years old, perhaps.   We were learning through, you know, in our social studies class, learning about the origins   of money with very simple stories, you know, that people would be trading   goods for shells or rocks or,   you know, shiny things, and then they decided it was easier to   make a, you know, form thing that was it became money. Right? And then and then   it it it just went on and on this story. Right? Telling a story of that, then they decide, well, it'd   be easier if if, you know, sometimes somebody can't doesn't have any of this medium of exchange, but they really need something. Well, we'll do a IOU note, you know, that kind of thing. So borrowing money that was introduced. And   then the concept of interest was introduced   in that, you   know,   elementary school class.  

And I remember   thinking when they talked about interest and how it worked,   at the end of that I thought, I don't know. I do not understand how   this can ever   be equaled out. Like, it can never   come, you know, the the loans   if there's interest on them, can never actually   it it will never equal zero again. It will never come back to, equilibrium where nobody owes any anything, and and it it it doesn't add up. That's the basic   essential thing as my little tiny brain.   Yeah. Because, you know, the the teacher was very good at it sort of illustrating by way of the story of how this all, you know, how money works, but that part   I couldn't   couldn't wrap my head around it. And now I know why I couldn't wrap my head around it.  

It just will never add up. Right?   Usury,   usury. This is your box of it. And, you know, then, then, you know, we, we become adults and we deal with money and we work and we have bank accounts and this and that. And I just always assume that   that's the only way   it is, is that   if there's a borrowing, you know, there's a loan or whatever that there must be be interest. I just thought that that is the way it is. It's kinda like the sun is in the sky that just is the way it is. You know what I mean? Like, I just I didn't   have this concept that   no. Actually, there have been,   you know, times and places and religions and whatnot that banned   usury, that did not allow usury.  

That concept, I I I wasn't familiar with that. They didn't teach us that in school, you know. But but anyway,   that whole thing about usury, this is something that I wonder how much of the population, the general population,   you know, normies, let's   say, people haven't really opened their eyes to all the layers of lies that we've been told about what everything.   I wonder how many people actually are aware of that, that usury is actually   not necessary, and it's actually very bad, and it and it has been outlawed in many times in many places. What do you think? Do you think that  

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people have a vague understanding of that even? Yeah. I think we should ask Eric because Eric responds for what do you think, Eric? Do you think they have a clue? Well, not not at all. I was talking to a fellow on a market stall couple of weeks ago, and he thought I was a rampant socialist when I mentioned it. Yeah. And   he he he said so I said, no. I said and he just couldn't get it. I said, they borrow money   and you try and pay it back, but they keep increasing the interest rate all the time. So you're a slave to that system.   Oh, so you explained it all to me. I don't even know anymore. I said no. No. No. Hang on. Hang on. Hang on. You don't need draft it. Did he say that? And he said,   yeah. Yeah. So I said, let's shut this conversation down. It was running through his head. Yeah. Gotcha. So so I said so he said, so you're saying   that we get   so we own the bank, and the money comes to us.  

I said, yeah. Oh, that's socialism. I don't I said, no. No. No. It isn't. It isn't.   I said, what happens? So you're in favor   of   the wealth of this country   being owned by less than 1%,   and it's just drained away from   us. Where if the wealth of country came to us,   what could happen is what happened in Libya   where   oh, yeah. But that Gaddafi bloke, he was evil. I saw that on BBC News. They said he was evil. I thought, oh, give up. You know? And   that was his his his where he was coming from. He he didn't understand. And everything you said, he would be against because it's alien to his way of thinking.   And I tried my hardest to get it over to him, but he just didn't get it. I said, oh, you know, imagine I was a bank. You borrow money off of me. So I'll I'll, like, give you a loan.  

And then when you come back to pay that loan back, you say, I say, oh, no. There's compound interest on that. You bought a 100, say, a $100.   I want a $150   now. You pay pay back a 150, say, no. It's 200 now. And it just keeps on inflating all the time. So you're a complete,   so he he should look to me and went,   well, I wouldn't get away with that, would they? I said, they do get away with it. That's what happens. So look, when you buy a more get a mortgage. I just gave up in the end. I literally gave up and I found that is most of the people you try and explain usury to them, they haven't got the foggiest idea.  

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And that's how I know. Just I think it's emotionally crushing. That's what I think is going on with people. I I do. I I'm trying to see it from their point of view.   He's probably pretty smart as a market trader. Right? Knows his stuff. Can deal with all that because it makes sense. He's got logic. He sees things. He puts hours in. He does this. He sells whatever he's selling and all that kind of stuff. This bit Oh, yeah. He's very good. This bit, yeah. It it basically undermines   everybody's   practically everybody's worldview.   That's what you're doing. Yeah. You're saying,   hello, you're thick. That's the subtext. What? Yeah, you're thick. Sorry.  

It's not even your fault. But when it comes to this topic, we're not even blaming you. You actually are in a condition of 100%   stupidity.   I'm sorry about that. Yeah. I don't I'm not trying to insult This is our goal. It's literally,   technically,   the case.   Would you like not to be? The thing is that the invite to not be throws you then into a space with people like us.  

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Well, I walked away and he thought I was some lefty weirdo.   Yeah. Because I I I dropped a claim, and I said, well, imagine   the wealth of the country comes to us instead of a minority.   Oh, yeah. But that's socialism, ain't it? I thought, oh my god. Father's Wow. I just Yeah.   So I said, so you're in favor of your hard earned money   being frittered away by less than 1% of the population.   Well, as well be. Always. Yeah. Yeah. And and he's just got going and I was just going around and never decreased in circles. I just got nowhere with him. And this is what I found. I've spoken to other people about it. And they just, I spoke to another chap. And I said, look. And this was, sometime early, you know, a couple years ago. And he said, yeah. But if you get a loan, you gotta pay back the interest, haven't you? I said, yeah. But we usually you never pay back the interest because it keeps inflating all the time.   They still couldn't get it. It just it's simple. It's so simple. You're just making money out of money. It's criminal. That's basically what it is. And then here's the thing. When  

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when in the in the big picture, when they say, oh, well,   you know, this or that country is is in debt, but, oh, well, China will cover that debt or some other country will cover that debt or whatever. And then you say, well, wait a   minute. Where does that come from? And how can they ever pay that back to that country? How can it ever add up? It can never add up. So then how do they   solve the problem? Well, they just print more money out of thin air. Right? That's the part   that that's how they make it add up.  

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Well, this is this is basically what what World War two was about. It's about usury. Germany could not be allowed to get away with abolishing usury in 1933.   Full stop, end off. That's what it was. That's what I that's what it's really about. Leaders from all over the world  

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praised   Germany, went to visit   the great leader there and see how did he do this economic miracle because, you know, Germany   came up out of the depths   of   terrible, terrible time, you know, poverty and   peep many, many people committing suicide because it was just so  

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so terrible after World War II. Week, Monica, in 1931.   Oh my god. Really? Ten thousand. Oh, that's horrendous. Ten thousand women a week were committing suicide in Germany in 1931. Yep. See, I I didn't know those statistics. I knew that many were doing it. That's that's  

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unreal.  

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Yeah. Wow.  

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You know, I I really fit that is that is   and it's all over economics.   All of it. But what happened in Germany, they actually copied   what Abraham Lincoln had done. And Abraham Lincoln introduced the greenback.   And that's how the North could afford,   in the American Civil War, the war because the North was bankrupt.   And that's why they wanted money from the South.  

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Yeah. Although, I have to tell you, Eric, I'm highly suspicious of Abraham Lincoln.   Oh, I can't stand a bastard. I don't view him in a positive light. The   the the   if you think about it as well, if you think about even, say, the founding of America, what was it about?   It was about the pursuit of religious freedom   to get away from the king, but also to get away from the king's taxes.   Right?   You can probably see this as a line in all conflicts is that Yeah. An aggressive   cartel   always seeks to extract more from the people than they have available,   because they're like that. We don't have to go into the whole psychology, but there's probably a billion reasons. They've learned these tricks, you know, going all the way back to Babylon,   and it's the surest way to literally destroy any civilization. You allow people to run   commercial finance services on these lines and it will literally chew anything up. It just chews it up. It's a disease. It's a virus. It's literally a cancer.  

It absorbs good value produced by hard work by people's sweat of the brow and it goes into the hands of exchanges where it's moved around and it's used as a weapon to actually enslave them even further. So that drive   by the people of these islands five hundred years ago to get away from here and get over to the new land to America   was in a way that they were actually   seceding,   to use that word, because we talk about secession. Right? They were using they were seceding from England.   Then when they get there,   they're doing more stuff and and it leads to this point where we get to eighteen sixty sixty one.  

And the states which are actually sovereign,   as I understand it, anybody can call in and correct me. They the ones in the South, they want to secede because of the way that the North are behaving in very simple terms. They go, we don't want this. Lincoln   is basically,   he did the most hellish things.   Oh, yeah. I mean terrible things to Northerners   to get that war going. He imprisoned them. He did all sorts of anybody that opposed what he wanted to do. Of course, the myth is, oh, he was doing it to fight slavery. It's a complete manure.   It's total nonsense. Spot on. Spot on. And I think he's Yeah. He's got a massive   a guy with a massive statue as big as that one. You've got to whenever you see these big statues of politicians, you've got to really immediately start asking question marks.  

Statues   of politicians, you've got to really immediately start asking question marks. Who are they trying to convince?   Really, seriously. You've got Cromwell down here and Churchill. Honestly, my opinion of those people, those two individuals is very, very low. And all of them are basically extensions   of this ancient money cartel.   They are the forces of it. This is how it manifests   and you know like what's his name Werner was just saying, you've got Max and Paul Warburg   running private money cartels in Germany   and in America,   and   we, our lot, are killing one another.  

And this is what happened in the war between the states. It's one way of expressing it. It's exactly the same stuff.   It's exactly the same. So the economic powerhouse of the states at the time was the South, but they came up with all these other reasons, you know, to do it. And then if you look at the viciousness of the Northern Army, and if we've got people that are Yankees and everything, they probably hate my guts. And I'm not saying the Southerners were all saints. It's war. Right? It's hell. But it's still the biggest loss of American life. But what was it about? It was about destroying their ability to actually have an independent economy along the lines that they needed.   And,   to centralize it, what's one of the tenets of the Communist Manifesto? A central bank.  



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Yeah.   And why is it That's That's what it is. Why is it the communist leaders,   their statues,   they're always depicted hauling a taxi. Have you noticed that? Why are they always hauling a taxi?   But the thing is with, Lincoln, he had this idea,   and this is true, look this up, that, he was going to round up   all the,   slaves,   and it's too expensive to ship them back to Africa. So what he planned to do is to literally dump them off in South America,   the jungles there. That was his plan, and he got assassinated before he could carry it out. But that is that is true.   It I mean, it does get muddled. I understand. I mean, Just just think they just think of the death toll that would have that would have happened. Just think of how many people how many poor souls would have been killed because of that policy.  



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But You're sorry we have   Yeah. I mean, it's good to stand back and look at it from a timeline point of view. 1776,   The US   purportedly gets its independence from England. Right? Because they didn't wanna pay the king's taxes. This theme's   always through everything.   It's a mere, what, seventy odd years later. It's not long.   1860.   It's very, very short. Eighty years, something like that.   And, kicking 10 bells out of us out of one another because it's been organized   for that to happen by the same force   that drove people over there in the first place. It just pursues us   because no one will get in charge. And, of course, the the big problem,   and we're not, you know, unique in this regard, is that the leaders, the natural leaders of our own people,   get seduced by all that money. And they go over to that they go over to the dark side, and they end up effectively becoming the bridge that enables all this warfare to be waged   on our own people.  

Of course, when you get a leader that stops that,   then there's literally hell to pay.   You know, as we said, mister Hitler stopped it. There's all sorts of attendant reasons.   You can argue things the other way, but that's a fundamental. That really is a fundamental   right there. You've got we've got the same as we mentioned with Gaddafi, these examples over and over again to us. But these examples are not known to the general public, a bit like the guy that you were talking to the other day who just couldn't get his brain around it.   And there's so much sort of baggage around the story that people emotionally react, and so you can't actually even get to the point   of introducing them to the to the sickness of the structure that it's always going to bring this about.  

It's a a devilish   communications challenge,   based, I guess, on human psychology and all sorts of other things. It really is. It's not actually that complicated.   But you might as well be speaking Greek to people that don't speak it when you actually bring it up because it Spawn. It it just goes against everything that they think they know. It's it's incredibly difficult. That's right. But I think they've been conditioned not to understand it because let's face it.  

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I think Henry Ford summed it up. He says people knew the truth about the banking industry,   there'd be a revolution before tomorrow morning. He's fine.  

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So maybe he was saying that they never will know. They're in a condition, most of the people, most of the time, where they'll never know.   They're never gonna know, are they? It's a bit like people that are addicted to voting   in democratic elections thinking that it's gonna make a difference.  

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Mhmm.  

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It's tragic. You know, I don't wanna upset everybody who thinks Trump's great and Ky is bad, but they're not. They're all bad.  

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They're all bad. Well, did you Have you noticed? They'll never get to that position without   being   completely compromised.  

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Yep. So That's right.  

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Through through,   this so called, you know, voting   democratic   I mean and that that's the other thing. They they programmed us, indoctrinated us to say that   democracy was the best system   ever.   But they didn't really   explain a lot of other things.   Just just going back to your comment about   the well, the the fellow Richard   Werner   talked about the   the Warburg brothers   being the bankers of two   opposing countries in in, in World War one, I guess that was.   Well, isn't it interesting? So these brothers are funding the war that   is a brother's war.  

I mean, these wars are all brother's wars.  

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So I just wanted to It's because we're the suckers.   Yeah.   Well, not all of us though. We're not, but we're surround   this is the it's just a it's a most awful situation.   Well, it's enough what's that phrase I read somewhere? I've said it out before. It's enough to make you weep tears of blood.   Yeah. The situation it really is. It's the most   frustrating, and that's why I have to go for walks because I just hit this brick going,   how how do I get Bob Smith, the greengrocer,   to get this fast? You've got to get it, Bob.   Because, actually, our survival is dependent on the great bulk of our own people getting this. And there have been periods in history when they have.  

And there's, you know, everybody said, we've got all this technology to improve the economy. It can't because the economy is designed,   arse about it, on purpose.   It's designed to harm you and to keep you basically, you just get into a more sophisticated   central bank digital current,   currency control system than the one we've had before. They were controlling you through paper. They just love it controlling it electronically,   But it's not going to actually yield up any bounty   in the right proportion and   it's created a sort of an insane type of behavior amongst all of us. I was even thinking about this. Well, I'm going to set up a business because I make loads of money and then I can buy a Mercedes just for one for whatever one of a better example. Right?  

That's nuts   when you think about it. It's nuts. You go, well, how many people want a Mercedes? Well, we need 50,000. But to get that made then, you can all have one.   We made   them.   Because there's a middleman   in there charging money, the intermediary,   everything gets completely out of whack and you're controlled through your lusts. So you got the advertising industry now making you want Mercedes.   And, you know, I'm not advertising Mercedes per se but they are noted as being a particularly well engineered car or used to be. I'm I'm assuming that still holds true. And people get all panicky about the car market and now we're all we're gonna solve,   automotive industry by introducing electric cars. No, you're not.  

None of the things that they say are solutions are solutions at all. They're just an extension   of the same dirty game.   That's all that and more you've got more bells and whistles now and it just looks fantastic and all this and the other. And, you know, even this AI thing putting all these coders out of work, this is a panic. Well, under the current system, it is. Because these people don't know how they're going to earn a living. Why should they worry about it? They should just get a living. Now, you know, now you say, oh well, you're talking about universal basic income. Well, there should I don't know about that but there should be a universal basic share in the fundamentals of your nation's wealth. And let's look at what Gaddafi did.   Gaddafi did that.  

He said, look, we've got these resources. We've got this oil. We've got this stuff. I'm getting all these revenues coming in. You're my people, I'm supposed to organize the country as best I can. One of the ways I'm gonna do is when you get married and you get a mortgage for hours, you don't pay any interest on it. Not only that, we'll give you $10 to get you started. Oh, you can have a car. And if you go and study in foreign places to learn stuff to bring your knowledge base and contribute back to the country, you'll get that education for free. We'll pay for it because you're gonna come back a more contributive   person back to your own people.  

I mean these threads I'm not saying that what I've said is perfect there but isn't that the approach? Isn't that the approach that we're supposed to The thinking's   basically gonna keep producing these problems because people aren't asking the right questions.   They're just coming up with solutions to a problem that shouldn't even exist in the first place. It's like making a really crap game slightly less crap for the next ten years, but it's still crap,   I think.  

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Have you ever known any time in your life when the country hasn't been in a financial crisis?   I haven't.   Mhmm. I haven't at all. It's always been in a financial crisis.   You know, but from the earliest time I can remember, there's a financial crisis.   All the budget. Oh, it's terrible. And, you know, when you hear the budget, oh, they're going to be putting, you'll be richer richer by,   say 40¢.   Oh, crumbs. Isn't that amazing? You know? Yeah. It's   just it's it's it's it's pathetic.   It really is pathetic.  

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I mean, we're talking Anyway, we're coming we're coming to the end of the hour. We're coming to the end of the hour. So we're gonna, I'll just we're gonna play a song. Hold on to that thought, Eric, for beginning of hour three.   We'll just say goodbye to everybody that's listening to us on WBN three two four. Thanks for your company for the last couple of hours. Hope you've learned a bit about pies   and a few other bits and bobs. The pies are probably the most important thing so far and,   August I'm polishing your shoes. So don't forget that. That's very important.   The other day somebody mentioned a horrific song by Kevin Keegan   and I think it's and I've just seen somebody type Kevin Keegan in the chat, which is very wrong of them but it spurred me on. Who typed it? Harvey number one. Good grief. I'm sorry. I'm gonna now Monica won't know this but brace yourself Monica because this is difficult to get through. Anyway, we'll see you all next week. We'll be carrying on after this. You want to keep listening to the show, head over to Paul English live and click the rumble or YouTube links. Here's our Kev.  

Oh, dear.  

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Love you.  

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Alright, everybody. You can unmute now.  

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I feel  

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sick. I'm sorry about that, Monica. That was pretty that was pretty wrong of me to do such a terrible thing on everybody's ears, but we, I think we've just hit the new low tide musical watermark in the show. It's gonna be difficult. But by the way, if you're out there and you know of something   even more ghastly than that, please let us know. And,   in a few weeks time, when we've all recovered, we will have a go. Yes, Monica. You loved it. Oh, dear. I have to I have to tell you that I I might be maybe a little bit challenged because  

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my brain does not compute   when I'm hearing music and and I'm   my brain does not compute the lyrics. It only computes   the the, the On the sign. On the sign. The rhythm and the Yeah. All that. So I don't even know what it was about. So I'm very curious now. I'd have to listen to it again and then really work hard to actually pay attention to the lyrics. I don't know what it was about. I mean,  

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if if you take my advice, Monica, you won't spend a second doing any of the things you've just suggested doing. Don't do any of that.   Right?   I I I've I've got too high a regard for you to put you through it again.  

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Maybe you have to tell us what was it about because Eric and I both seem to be in the same boat here, and I bet you there's a few listeners too. But then maybe you don't want to because I guess you were quite disgusted. Well, well, it's actually I'm I'm blaming I'm blaming  

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the person that I mean, it's just terrible. Somebody wrote Kevin Keegan in the thing, and I remember so you probably don't even know Kevin Keegan was. He was a very, very good footballer   and not a very very good singer. Right? Or at least he sung not very very good songs. Maybe he's a magnificent singer. I don't really know, but that wouldn't have been a good example of it. That was called Head Over Heels in Love   and was,   I suppose eighties pop vacuous nonsense or was it late seventies, Eric? Something like that. But he was,   he was a very good footballer,   a very very good,   went over to Hamburg.  

So he's he's English, but he went and played for a German team. He was one of the first guys to ever sort of do that kind of thing in the seventies.   And,   to probably cash in on his popularity   as a bit of a footballing superstar or whatever at the time, somebody obviously said, Kevin, record this.   Aunt Sally, I think, did put it on mute, but I pointed out to that even jazz will sound good in comparison to that going forward. So maybe we've we've helped introduce Aunt Sally to jazz, but probably not.  

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I'm sorry about that everybody. There we go. But there you go. It's okay. It's good. It was all it really was truly dreadful. It had literally nothing to recommend it, which I think is which is good, really. It's hard to find songs that are literally bad in every. Oh, you loved it, did you? Come on. No. No. No. Because Monica is the same as me. I don't listen to the words. I'm gonna listen to the mel you know? Mhmm. I I I strange, but I don't listen to words with music. But there's one record I think you will listen to the words with, and I think Monica will. And that is I Want My Baby Back.  

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Yeah. But we can't play that because   if this were a family show, it'd be the most deranged, sick, and evil family that you could ever think about. So, no, we we can't play this. No. We're not having people see each other. The world's worst. That was actually won the world's worst record  

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on Kenny Everett in the nineteen eighties. Yeah. Is and, yeah. And actually, so with this record could seriously at a health government health warning, this record could seriously damage your mental health.  

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Are you both recovered now? Is everybody recovered a bit? Have you got your breath back? I it did make me feel slightly bilious. And and it reminded me of moments like that when terrible songs would come on on top of the pops. There were things like that that would just crop up in the seventies. You don't get such strange stuff anymore. Actually, I prefer the seventies for that. There's there's something really probably rather cathartically good about a toe curlingly awful song.   Whereas now they're all so slick and produced and in such a narrow band that they're not toe curlingly awful but then just mind numbingly dull,   I I find. But then I am a I am a middle aged old fart. Anyway,   it's good to go from sort of fractional reserve banking to Kevin Keegan, don't you think? I thought that was really quite a good segue really. I thought we we've probably ruined everybody's health, haven't we? So with that one.  

Sorry about that, Monica. I mean, you only come along once a month. It's not it's wrong. It's wrong that I did it and I apologize sincerely. I I'm sorry about  

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that. I I'm just getting more and more curious what what what the what it's about now. So  

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Well, he's just head over heels in love with someone, or something. Or maybe he was head over heels in love with football or something. I don't think it was about football. It was   yeah. They all had permed hair then. So I think he had permed hair then, didn't he, Eric? Not that I know that you're a hairdresser. He did. He must have. They all started perming their hair.  

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Bit like my hair at the moment.   Yes. I think I think your bouffant hairdo is really rather dashing, actually. So, yeah, it's good. Yeah. It's it's pretty It's showing it's see through, though. Mhmm. It's showing it's a see through hair hair hair do. My my hair is actually,  

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see through. People don't realize that. I I've actually got it shoulder length. You've got a force field around your head, haven't you? You're basically like a superhero. Yes. I understand. Yeah.   Anyway,   Monica,   is there anything interesting going on in Canada right now that we should that you should bring to our attention so that we can whinge about that or that might be something positive or whatever? Anything   what's the political thing like over there? Is it just as mad and bonkers as it as it used to be? Have you still got that oath in charge? Who's in charge? It's worse it's worse than ever, actually.  

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Yeah. It's   it's it's, you know, this Mark Carnage, that is his nickname now, and lots people are calling him Mark carnage instead of Mark Carney.   I mean, you know, he he is the one who in   2022   was advising the prime minister of the time, which was that,   Trudeau guy, Justin Trudeau.   And he he literally said at that time,   and you'll remember that's when the truckers convoy had,   you know,   descended onto   the capital city of the country, Ottawa,   and they were there honking their horns and whatnot. So honking horns, I guess that's a very dangerous thing. Right? Mhmm. He he Mark Cornish said it is time to end the sedition in Ottawa by enforcing the law and following the money. And that was the headline of a Globe and Mail article. And he and so Mark Carney's advice to   to come down hard on and and to use violence. Like, they then it was the police who used violence, not not the truckers. They were it was a very, very   peaceful, you know,   peaceful demonstration, peaceful,   basically,   a demand for freedom. You know? So anyway but that's who's running our country, and there's all kinds of bills being quietly rolled out. And I'm not sure about   the,   quietly rolled out. And I'm not sure about the,   you know, the status of all of them. There's one that's particularly egregious. It's the online harms act where   you could go to prison for life   for something that you might be saying online.  

Mhmm. So, you know, on the Internet. So, yeah, things are   we're we're very far down this road of   Bolshevism two point zero   full blown. And   it it's interesting times we're living in. I I must say it's very interesting times. And I guess the other thing I I would mention about what's going on in Canada is   and this is very, very important   because it's one of their   it's tied   to another   giant giant lie.   But they're conducting weather warfare against us   with their, you know, chemtrailing and their energy weapons and all that stuff. And then and then when it they don't talk about summer anymore. It's only wildfire season.   And,   and then they tell us that there's this thing called climate change with too much carbon,   and carbon being the stuff of life. I mean, it is so   so upside down, inverted, backwards. So when they say we are to lower our carbon footprint,   they   literally   mean   to extinguish   our lives   because,   you know, we are carbon based life. Yep. You know, I mean, plants that so anyway, that that whole thing and, you know, it's interesting that the climate change slash global warming   hoax   was one that took me longer to figure out than,   you know, some of the other   bigger lies that are illegal to question, shall we say.  

You know, what what went on in World War two and whatnot. But anyway so   it took me longer to figure that out. It and   why? I'm not sure.   I guess I just really bought into this global warming myth,   and I was involved in the green party.   All those things, I guess, were factors in it, and I just I also thought, oh, the the things that are being suggested in terms of,   you know,   lessening our impact. Well, that resonated with me, but I it it was   based on nonsense.   And   and, of course, now we see what they are doing with it. And it and, of course, the the   this is gonna be used to   do implement the fifteen minute cities   everywhere, which they are rolling out as we speak.  

You know, there are many cities already   in that status,   and,   it's all about control and surveillance.   Those are the things that that and then, you know, you were talking about the digital banking   and all that and the whole banking system, and that's all about   it's all tied together. So this is not just,   you know, some side issue or, you know, okay. It's an important issue, but it's not what we're talking about today. I mean, if the main theme today is the   banking system and   and then, you know, I've kind of rolled it around to the weather warfare and the fifteen minute cities, and that's about control and surveillance. And so the CBDC,   is that what it's called? Central bank digital currency.  

That's all about control of of our every move. I mean and then back to the this truckers convoy that I mentioned when I started talking here about Mark Carnage   and that he was the advisor back in '22 when they locked you know, when they came down with violence against these peaceful protesters.   Oh my goodness. I just, lost the thread where I was going with that, Paul. That's alright. Castles.  

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Yeah. But the Hi, Patrick. The Welcome to the show. Hi, Patrick. Hi, Patrick.  

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Maybe Patrick can fill in for me the rest there.   Yeah. They had both accounts. With the digital. Yeah. Children.   And and they shut down people's bank accounts and Yes. That's it. That's where I was going. Thank you. You did. You you did beautifully. You filled in where I was going with that. They shut down people's bank accounts. So with digital currency, that's exactly   the type of control they'll have in times 10 or times a 100 or times a thousand, you know.  

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Yeah. Go ahead. At least we'll all be very safe. I mean, you know, they're really trying to protect us, aren't they? That's the key thing. Indeed.  

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Yeah. Indeed. Back to the packaging. Right? Package everything nicely.  

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Of course. Well, Mark  

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sorry, Patrick. Yeah. Well, Mark well, you look at what they're doing in Gaza and they'll do it. If they're willing to do it there, they're willing to do it here.   And it's proven like what they happened in Ottawa.   They brought in people with they had United Nations airplanes   fly in with all sorts of police forces that didn't even speak English or French   came in and has hired thugs and went in.   They were beaten on the protesters to clear them out, to kettle them in.   Get them surrounded.   And and it's,   it's the same old story though. If you look at the history of this country   and how they they had the Indian wars   at a certain point in the sixteen hundreds and the seventeen hundreds.  

They did there were sim similar things going on. It's the same old scheme   just in a new context with the technology that we have now. It's a lot easier to go after   things like bank accounts because they're all online.   But, there are other ways around it too because that was kind of a blessing in disguise because you had people raising money with Bitcoin and that sort of thing to get them to the truckers to get fuel for them.   And people going around handing it out to truckers Yeah. Handing money out. So it it you know, there might be one bad   one bad side, but there's another one to counteract it.  

So that's what we need to look at, the positive side too, as well as the negative. But, yeah, I agreed. Mark Carney isn't a very good politician in that regard. The Bank of England chair  

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and then Yeah. He was, president.   Mark Carnage was head of the Bank of England when Liz Truss,  

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was at the houseroom. He's the one she was talking about when  

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she said she had no power. He had all the power. Yeah. He had all the power. I mean, he happened to be the guy sitting in the chair. He he was the appointed head at the time, but she pointed out that you can fire the prime minister,   but you can't fire the head of the Bank of England. So who has more power? Same with Trump right now. He's he's making a big deal about how Gerald,  

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Powell or whatever his name is,   Jerome Powell,   he can't fire him.   He has no no ability ability to do that. And then they have Canada, what is it, recognizing Palestine. Mhmm. You know, Trump is,   all upset and and saying well then, yeah, they're not gonna get   on our good side with our Canadian trade deal. It's like well,   okay, it throws another monkey wrench in there because it's like, well,   who's the bad guy? You know,   they're all bad guys. All of them. In there, and it's all a show. It's like WWE, you know, we just had Hulk Hogan die.   He kind of represents the American  

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Wrestler.  

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Yeah, the wrestler of the American,   Third Republic   from World War II on, what it's become. He's kind of the epitome of that.  

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Yeah.  

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Yeah. I know. They'll write it up.  

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But then Well, we've got we've got situations over here. I don't know what I know I've heard that something's about to be,   put into play in Northern Ireland and that they're gonna switch them all over to digital currency in Northern Ireland. Now I could have got that wrong. It might not be everything   but, apparently, they're gonna use that, so I hear, as a space to trial it. We've also got a thing over here called the   DWP plan for bank accounts surveillance. Now the DWP is the Department for Works and Pensions.   And what the way that they're framing this is that they're gonna basically find,   benefits fraudsters, people that are getting paid   too much money from all the benefits that the government give out. I mean, this is such a retarded sentence.  

Why are they giving them out benefits in the first place? Obviously, their system for actually allocating benefits   is broken.   Why would you then need to go, well, we need to surveil the people that we're giving the benefits to. Well, don't give it to them then.   But, of course, this is a lie again because it's just the soft introduction   of rolling that technology out everywhere.   We've also got a thing called the online harms bill which apparently is going through which is to protect children,   But we're   we're imminently in danger that anybody that gets offended by anything   can, file a complaint and you can be shut down. So this is the old commie thing of basically shutting down speech because what's in that speech is basically gonna be ideas that oppose,   the powers that should not be. And, so the game plan's exactly the same. The technology is different. Eric, I was going meant to ask you as well. I don't know what's happening in your area, but round here for now the last two or three years actually,   all the roads have been dug up all the time with more Internet Yes. Being laid in. And, of course, they're not Internet cables that create the basis for the fifteen minute cities   or the Oh, yes. Spot on. Have you got that going? I'm glad you've mentioned have we? Well,  

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the town center,   they're putting a road in and it's just going a couple 100 yards and they've been almost a year on it.   And where you you you think they're digging down Australia?   Cables cables going everywhere   why I don't know another thing they're doing   they're putting cones out   closing down lanes on roads and there's no works going on at all Just to just to create a traffic jam. Same here.  

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We our entire town nothing going on? Our entire town, Main Street is closed down for construction. They dug it up. It's like they're gonna build a swimming pool from one end to the other, the way they've got it dug up. Yeah. And it's been all summer. It's going   on Yeah. What's going on in three, four months? What's the population around town, Patrick? What's the population there then? Roughly. It's like a thousand people. 1,100 people.   Yeah.   Well, we're we're the only one around though that's got a mason Masonic Lodge in our town for the next 50 miles.  

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May maybe it's a Masonic protection system they're putting in in case that us peasants will get a little bit more,   you know, uppity   about things. Yeah.   Yeah. Do are you have you got any of that round near you, Monica? Lots of roadworks or anything, you know, lots of cable laying? Is there any of that going on in your neck of the woods?  

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Well, I'm in a really, really, really small   village. I'm actually outside of the village, and I haven't noticed our village streets being dug up. Mhmm.   And I haven't really been anywhere lately, but   Jasper is is kind of an interesting thing. I don't know if they're, well, they burnt down a third of the town and I and I really,   many people are very, very suspicious of what actually   happened there, why the the one third of the town that did burn down happened to be the low density housing area.   And, you know, a month before that fire,   there there was a meeting in Ottawa that one of the Jasper town councilors attended, and he came back all enthusiastic about all the stuff he learned and that and that, you know, Canada had an obligation to make so and so many   million new homes by the year 2030   or whatever it was. And and Jasper, a little town of Jasper has the obligation to make 200 new homes. Now Jasper is in a national park and the town boundaries   are firmly   legislated in place. You don't really have a place   to expand into and and it's full. So where are you gonna put those 200 new homes and then,   gee, that part of town oh, he also said low density housing is a bad word,   like, for future. And and why is it all these new houses are needed in Canada? Well, Mark Carney, that same guy, the Carnage guy,   what what did they call it? There's a name for it. I forgot the name for it, but but the plan   is the to have a 100,000,000 people in Canada by the year 2030.  

Sorry. Twenty   twenty one hundred, not 2030. Sorry. Right. So seventy seventy five years from now. A 100,000,000   now at currently, apparently, we're around forty forty maybe 41,000,000 or something. That's   pretty drastic Yes. Population increase. And now it's not from our   really beautifully high birth rate among the, you know, European stock people. Are you kidding me? The the   fertility rate is way down, but that would be from all these newcomers. Right? The the newcomers   coming from East India, coming from China, coming from everywhere else.   Right? Everywhere everywhere but Europe. Not too many immigrants from Europe. There's a few. Sometimes you hear,   European accents from these new new people, but there that's the minority. So   anyway,   all these new houses have to be built, and so places like Jasper. The other thing I'll just tell you, I was there it's almost a year ago by now, and it's not that far from where I live, but I I have haven't been back since it was in September.  

And and the fire occurred just over a year ago. It was at 07/24/2024.   And I was there in September, and that's when   there were all these   white vans there that had cleaning crews because   the insurance would pay for people whose homes did not burn down. They would get these deep cleaning done.   And I'm telling you, these people that were sort of loitering on the streets in front of the place, I don't know if they were all on coffee break at the same time, but it seems that   as I was wandering through town, they were all just kind of on the sidewalk. They weren't really working very hard, and they were they were right off the boat from who knows where, from Africa, from wherever else. They you you think I don't think they spoke English. They were   certainly   not like, you know, familiar looking people at all. And yet there were a lot of Jasperites who were desperately in need of work   because   tourism was completely   zero because the fire had happened and devastated the town. Now why were all these other people being brought in? And then the homeowners,   if they did   get this deep cleaning done and the insurance company were paying for it, and then these these foreigners were coming in, they might've had, you know, one white guy at the head of it or the boss telling us what to do or whatever, but there were all these foreigners. And then they the   the homeowners,   the the residents   had to be out of their homes and couldn't even sleep in their beds at night. They had to be out for the whole duration of the deep cleaning and it could take a week, could take you know, it was definitely a multi day affair.  

So I just was asking all kinds of questions about what is going on here. What are they doing?   What are they doing in these homes?   I I mean, the natural thing for me, I don't have any evidence of this, and I really don't know. But I just started thinking, well, what are they planting in these homes? I don't know.   I really don't know. It was it was very, very strange.   And then   the complexion of jasper has radically changed   even before the fire, but now it's that much worse. And that part of town that burnt down, many of those people won't come back. Some will, they'll rebuild, but they will be building high density   housing there. And I mean, the people that part of town that was   the established part of town, they were mostly   of European stock, caucasian race people, white people.  

That that was mostly who was living in that area of town.   And a lot of them were retired.   And, you know, many of those people, they're just not gonna come back.  

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So it it's really I mean, I kinda went on a different story here. You asked if they're digging up the streets here where I am. It's all interlinked though. It's all interlinked. We've got I mean, it's it's a slightly different form in all of our nations, America, Canada, here in England, and across Europe.   But the the same dynamic is at play.   People are being brought here as part of this   warfare   that's being waged against us   through civil agencies supposedly, you know.   So   the indigenous populations   are being taxed   and,   being ignored for housing. Everybody else is being given to. No one knows where all this money is coming from.  

But   they don't need to know because the plan is to wipe us out.  

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It's obvious. Yeah. That that is the plan. And and actually, the you just brought something up that that,   yeah. I wanna comment. The money that goes to these newcomers,   apparently, they get, oh, I don't have the figure in front of me, but the the amount of money that a newcomer gets for a year,   like the the government will pay for a year's worth of living and all the expenses   associated,   it's more than,   you know,   a a lot of Canadians   earn and or get   if they're even on social welfare or anything like that. It's it is an unbelievable,   unbelievable amount of money that they will get.  

And for nothing? For what? Like, just because they came into the country and   and  

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yeah. It's who's paying for that? And how do you get that? Paying for it, isn't it? Our enemy is paying for all this, obviously. Uh-huh.   Yeah.   The enemy is paying for this.  

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All these agencies, whatever you wanna call it, doesn't it? The money power is just Yeah. But we're paying for it, like, ultimately. I think that's what you mean, though. We're we ultimately it's coming out of our  

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pocket because it's our Well, the standard of our living is to be is to be pushed down   and the resources taken from   the people that built these nations and who are the rightful inheritors of them, the stewards of them, quite naturally under the laws of nature.   And this is a completely artificial process. It's not and so, you know, their talking heads are always,   saying, oh, this will be good for the local economy. No, it won't.   That's right. No, it won't. Whose local economy is not mine. I'm not even part of it anymore. It's not good at all. I don't want  

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it. And you will be called racist if you object to any of these people. I say, you know, and you you're a racist, and that's the most weaponized word there is. It really is.  

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Yeah. Although we are laughing about that over here now.  

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Oh, I'm glad. I'm telling you.  

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I'm a racist. Really? Oh, I'm so upset. Hang on. I've got to get some more Kleenex tissues because I'm gonna cry about it all night. No.  

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Called me a racist. I beg I beg to differ though about that. There you know, a racist is kind of not the real hot button word that you could be called.  

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I would say anti semitic is more the one that you is the real hot button one. Interesting perception that you have because I I'm having the feeling that anti semite is losing its power.  

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It it is. It's all the liberals are getting called it now   that are against what's happening in Gaza with this mass starvation. You got people that wouldn't   be called far right at all. They have to call them far left or whatever. It it's just the moderate liberals that are getting called this, and it's funny to see what their reactions are. You you look on Twitter and you see it. And it's just Don't you I I think it's a good point there, Patrick. And I think it reminds me of that classic clip, which I suspect everybody is reasonably familiar with.  

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Eric's mentioned it many times and it's been around for many years which is the interview with Yuri Bezmenov   about how you undermine and demoralize a nation and that the left   who think that they're gonna be on the winning side, they're all gonna be lined up and shot in the back of the head and put into a pit, metaphorically speaking. They don't get it because they literally are useful idiots. They've they've bound themselves in with an ideology that they don't even understand,   and they're so terrified. Everybody's a racist.   We've got it over here. I mean, it's just it is,   you know, even if we call these people mentally ill, which is true,   there's there is no sort of of essence of shame in them.  

And these are people that don't have shame are   very scary.   They'll do anything. You can't sort of point out to them that they are behaving   in an appalling fashion.   It doesn't matter because it's coming from someone like me   and you're a racist so we're not going to listen to you.   All this kind of stuff. Are you familiar with this jeans advert that's running around in The States? You must know of it. These eagle jeans with this   Yeah. Yeah. Some model, some 27 year old model. Yeah. She's absolutely fabulous looking if you're into all that sort of thing. If you're into fabulously looking beautiful white women, she's one of those.   Yeah. And like, but the company that does it, you know, they're owned by the tribe. So Of course. People, you know, they're playing games here with that. I know they are. Their stock price has gone up and all that. They don't care. This is this is part of it. It's not that there are sides that well, there are but they're not the ones that people think   that they're on.  

Basically, you're right. The the whole thing is just to create permanent communications,   confusion, and drama   and keep switching allegiances so that the idea no one can really define who stands for what anymore. It's just that it's all getting worse and people sort of pop up and sort of start saying, oh, well, we're gonna do this. Oh, yeah. That'll be better. We're gonna do that. Oh, you can't do that because you're a racist and the whole thing's a complete mess. That's where we have to stand we have to stand on moral principles.  

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If we lose our moral principles, we have nothing.   Mhmm. Everything collapses underneath us because if we if we don't have righteousness and justice on our side, our argument means absolutely nothing.   So   as long as you're   right with God as they say you're you're gonna be fine you you have nothing to fear   and That's what they don't like they want people to forget that God is on their side   That they want you to they wanna destroy our holy places and, you know, kill men, women, children, and our cattle, and all this kind of crazy Talmudic stuff   in order to demoralize us. Well, we can't let them. It's not it's not gonna happen.  

It's  

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It's a it's an amazing campaign. It's a really interesting campaign, though, in terms of the amount of pathetic responses that it's generated.   I mean,   I don't know if you've seen it, Eric. Are you familiar with it?   Are you talking about the jeans thing? Yes. Sydney Sweeney it says Sydney Sweeney has great jeans with a j,   but of course what they're all sort of up in arms running around it's sort of the hullabaloo media all sort of wetting their knickers. Well, most of them. Some some people don't mind thinking that the implication is that because she's white and beautiful, which she is, you know, by modern beauty standards,   that what it really means is genes as in g e n e s. And therefore,   white jeans are better to which I'm going, well, yeah. And your point is what exactly? So  

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but you're a racist. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. I I have to look this up. I'm gonna look I'm gonna look the up the ad up.   So what would I put in? Just a jeans ad? Sid just type in Sydney Sweeney.  

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The ill ill popper is everywhere. Every newspaper in the world I've got reports from Australian newspapers. There's a new racist The brand. That's correct. The brand, Monica, is called American Eagle Brand.   Yep.  

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Look up look up the CEOs of it though, and you'll you'll you'll see that it's not it's not organic.  

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I knew it would be. I didn't even bother looking it up, Patrick. I went, I know what's going on here.   Yeah. Yeah. They're happy to make money out of anything. Right? It don't make it it don't matter. They don't care. Well, we yeah. What what was the famous saying?   Bad bad even bad publicity is good publicity? That's right. Well, their stock price is gonna all their stock value is gonna have $400,000,000   since this has started. It's a worse effect in reverse. Yep.   Yep. And I'm reminded, you know, about that thing about making money out of every situation.   Fact that Dennis Wise came across with regards to Germany in the early thirties   where, what's his name?  

Untermyer, Samuel Untermyer,   through a hissy fit, got really really cross because he found out that loads of Jewish investment firms on Wall Street were investing in National Socialist Germany because the returns were so good   because the Germans were a reliable people for producing good products.   He said, you can't have that. You know, we're wedged we've already declared war on them. So there was a bit you know, I'd like to see a film on that. That was fine. Thing is happening right now in Russia.  

[02:33:42] Unknown:

I bet you there's just, like Yeah.   Places getting bought up like you wouldn't believe. Because it   doesn't make any sense to have these sanctions that they're putting in place and they're going even harder,   this past week,   where   you have this railroad network that's being built from China to Europe,   and you have to either go through Iran or Russia to get to Europe or China, China and vice versa.   So and they've got sanctions on both of these countries. Well, the people who can get around the sanctions are gonna make out, like, bandits.   And And I think that's what's happening. I think we're being bamboozled. It's the little people like you and me that are being prevented from investing in those places  

[02:34:23] Unknown:

where the the major trade is Well, I I don't have any disposable income,  

[02:34:27] Unknown:

Patrick, to invest in. That's what I mean. That's not anything else. But if you did even what little you had to invest, you couldn't do it because of sanctions.   Yeah. And and then you would have you could you can do it, but then you you it's a little more complicated   than and and not every person can make contacts in those countries.   So   we're getting we're getting fleeced   with these sanctions and I think   that the whole war scheme has   been played many times and they've got a formula that works that works We're we're getting fleeced with every every single thing that's going on.  

[02:35:03] Unknown:

It's literally a fleecing operation.  

[02:35:06] Unknown:

We're we're paying for the digital prison, of course, that they're seeking to build around us, I guess. Well, I'm I think You know? Paul Paul, it's it's kind of like what your wealth how you define wealth. I I define wealth as my lack of needs rather than all my possessions. It's like, really that's what it boils down to with anybody with the poor, is your lack of needs   defines your wealth. Because I don't, you know, yeah, I'm I'm fairly well off in that regard. I don't need a lot of possessions   as long as the needs are there of basics of bread and and,   roof, shelter, clothes,   that sort of thing, the basics.  

Have you ever heard of something called it's called,   municipal socialism?  

[02:35:52] Unknown:

Oh, that sounds lovely. Count me in. I like a good bit of jargon. Municipal   socialism.   Yeah.  

[02:36:00] Unknown:

That's that's the hot ticket. Yeah. I'm very excited. Go and tell me. I was digging I was digging around x and I found this fella.   I think his name is Tony Arnett.   And he's a he's a liberal city dweller in New York City. Mhmm. And he's getting called all the all the bad words because he's he's pro   Palestinian and this kind of thing. Mhmm.   But, yeah. He he made this comment that just blew me away because he's like, we need to go to,   municipal socialism, which is what Karl Lueger,   in the lead up to the Third Reich, was advocating in Austria.   Right. And he totally changed the city of Vienna around   through his his his plans that he had in place. And I I I asked   AI what it what what was Karl Lueger's municipal   socialism?  

And it I'll give you just, four quick   key aspects. Social welfare.   Lueger introduced numerous social welfare institutions, including free lunches for poor children and the creation of public works   Two, infrastructure development. He municipalized   gas and electric works,   established a public transport system with streetcars, and extended the public water supply.   Ec   three economic policies, Luger set up special municipal banks to combat private Jewish banks   and used long term domestic and foreign debt to finance his ambitious public ventures.   And then the four is the political ideology.  

Luger was the leader of the anti Semitic and anti Liberal party,   which later became the Christian Socialists.   His political   ideal was German Slav Magyar state under   the Habsburg dynasty,   which you know where that went after he died in 1910.   He killed Franz Ferdinand.  

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Mhmm.  

[02:37:55] Unknown:

A federal and planned Catholic in religion   with the industrial and economic advancement of all the people.   He served as mayor from Vienna from 1897   until his death in 1910.   Right. Quite a guy   when you when you look at what he did. Well, he's quite a guy as well. When you consider that very few people apart  

[02:38:18] Unknown:

from you ever mention him or really talk about him. I mean, clear myself, I'm I'm reasonably ignorant about him.   But, and those were extremely difficult trying times at that period of history around there, weren't they? Obviously, because it was part of that run up to World War one as you mentioned.   Yeah. I don't like the I don't like all these phrases like municipal socialism and then what have we got at the moment? I don't. I don't think you need to do that. Yeah. I don't know. Supplied to people. What's the other junk thing that's been floating around the last oh, communitarianism.   There's that old new stuff. It's all these isms. It's always   if it's if it's an ism, it's generally   some blokes have concocted it. Let's come up with a better plan for managing things. But but obviously, what it seems to me one of the ingredients is missing is is a process for creating better people. I sound like a eugenicist.  

I didn't mean it necessarily physically.   But I mean in terms of just basic education about these important things which of course is is absent in a huge number of our own people and it makes the system   obviously unworkable. You can't how can what was the thing that they said with,   when they formed the constitution, it's for a moral people, isn't it? The whole thing has got if you haven't got a moral people, there's no point coming up with some kind of a system of of of civilized behavior and a code for it if it requires moral people to observe it and apply it. If they don't exist,   you're you're designing things that that won't work.  

I mean this conundrum about how we manage our affairs   is   and it does appear to be a conundrum, is everywhere, but it's because we're we're obviously looking in the wrong directions or are trained to look in the wrong directions all the time to come up with solutions for problems that that are only gonna they actually tend to make it worse.  

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Yeah. There's no there's no social progress outside of the moral order. Mhmm. No.   No. There isn't really. Because you can't. If you're if you're gonna say, well, everybody can kill everybody else, there's gonna be disorder, and you're never gonna have harmony and peace in that society.   Mhmm. If one one person's allowed to kill another person   without,   you know, facing trial then,   exactly. So if you don't have a moral people,   things like first free speech don't mean much.   And and you see the free speech gets wasted on these terms   where people think they can,   swear.  

I notice a lot of people, even our president,   can swear using   the f bomb   in public. You've never we've never had that in our history.   A president that just feels he can   swear like that. And and that just is an indication of our decline   and the potency of our languages has declined as a consequence.   Where words become meaningless, you don't trust people anymore because they're word, you can't take them for it. You can't their contracts   are null because you know they're just gonna, you know, you loan them money, they're not gonna pay you back,   kind of deal.  

And the usury is another thing, you know, like you were talking about usury,   that, that was a given for   millennia.   You didn't charge people interest on a loan that you paid them. It was scripture   said that when you loan someone money, it's charity.   It's not profit making.   It's   meant to give somebody a leg up   that's poor   in a in a state where you can afford to give them something to help them like the good Samaritan.   Mhmm. And you have no right to demand   your, you know, interest payment on a on a loan that you give out. And really, you can't expect even to get paid back   a loan.  

I mean, if you get half half the money back for a loan that you give out, you're doing pretty good.   Like, like, from between you and me, like, on a street level type thing, if you, you know, you have relatives or any anything like that, you've probably   gone into that situation   situation where you loan them money because you know they need it and they're in a hard spot.  

[02:42:25] Unknown:

I mean, that that quality is great. You know, I suppose we've we've all had examples of that in intra family when it's happened, which is good.   The way that money floats around inside a family, it's just irrelevant. Yeah. Look. Just have it. I you know, nobody, you know, could you owe me £10 for that stuff we bought the other day? Just got it's coming in and we all need to use some stuff. I just happen to have some pieces of paper. It doesn't matter and it doesn't. And it's that's the spirit that you want to live in, you know, when you've got the   people have experienced that. Been in the warmth of that kind of situation. I just remember all my aunties and uncles, they never bothered with this stuff. Here you go. And it wasn't a it wasn't an important thing to chase it up or to pester people for things like that. Inter intra family.  

But you could even also see that the   this leveling of interest on all money, so all money that we spend has got interest sitting on it,   effectively puts all of us subtly into competition with one another. And this is manifested in all these other sort of complications that we've got in society.   Like people get extremely combative over money. In that quite naturally it's understandable from their survival point of view that they have to do it.   And so we are in a way surrounded by more wealth and plenty than we've ever been, but you're denied access to it because of the nature of a military system that keeps you constrained intentionally so.   Not that I'm after tons of stuff personally. I don't want loads of stuff because you have to clean it and look after it and all these things and it should be down to you to do with those things.  

I mean the the big wealthy guys that have these massive houses and England's sort of littered with the history of this in the '17 and eighteen hundreds. These huge sort of palatial   things that are still existing. They're magnificent buildings. I mean they're great to look at and everything, but of course they require an army of servants to keep them going and it's all this you create these hierarchies which   which of course over here have produced the class structure, which is still very much with us. It was probably never gonna go away I suppose unless something   radically shifts in the hearts of people and, you know, maybe it is a miracle on that level that is required.  

You know, I'm always open to the idea that that's got to be part   of the part of the situation.  

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Yeah. Yeah. Well, if you can get people together that are of the same creed,   where they believe the same thing,   and   they know what the score is, and they have the moral,   they believe in the 10 commandments,   and you know that you can be certain   that it's like, you have confirmation that these people are good people because   they live an upright life   and their word means something. When they say something, their yes means yes and their no means no.   Mhmm. That's the type of society that we're working toward.   And as the ideal.  

And if you have a culture, because this is where ethnicity and culture come into play, because   you need to be around people you can trust that aren't gonna steal from you,   that aren't going to   harm you.   We need that moral certitude   in other people and that's where the church   came in   in the previous generations   and why there was such a reliance and there was more dignity and honor in those people   looking back. You can see it even in the way they dress and the way they perceive life.   Mhmm. It's much different than we have now. Like you were saying with disposable,   how things in well, Monica was saying about how things in Canada became   disposable   in relation to her father's culture.  

Coming into Canada.   And that's respectable. I mean, you because she he came from a society where it had been Christian for a thousand years.   And coming to Canada, we're, you know, we're relatively new here.   We have, you know, the savage Indians   meeting   the western folk settlers coming in and teaching them their ways and it's like,   there's something to be learned   from that   and   that's what we need to inspire   ourselves to.   We need that camaraderie too because if we're just on our own,   you know,  

[02:46:44] Unknown:

we're not going to do as well swimming as we will in a ship together. It's a numbers game. There's an aspect of it that's very much a numbers game and to try and find it might, you know, to try and find a few simple things that I've got broad appeal to many people so that lots of people can take one step forward in the right direction   and look around and go, oh look there are other people like me willing to do something. It's happening. It's happening not as quickly as we want. And of course the I suppose the anxiety is whether it will happen   happen fast enough.  

I mean, you know, obviously the situation in Canada, Monica, is that they're just that we don't get many reports on Canada, but the way you're describing it is just that they're bringing lots and lots of people in. I mean I've heard from we've got relations over there. I've mentioned this before. Lots of Chinese people are in Canada and of course after twenty years of this, everybody gets used to it whatever I might mean by the word use but they become acclimatized. You just accept it and this is the problem. I mean it's the problem here and then people go, oh we can't change it. No. We go, hang on. This is we have to change it. If you want to be Yeah. If you wanna have a productive life again. We don't dislike these people but they're in the wrong location and they're not here under their own steam. They didn't get here because they said I'm gonna go live in Canada. No. There's huge agencies at work   doing this and that's those the way Yeah. Agencies that are waging war. That's right. It is a planned  

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invasion   and it has nothing to do with you know, some people still like to call it, oh, that's immigration.   No. It's a it's an invasion that is   steered and planned,  

[02:48:23] Unknown:

you know And they get away with it. They get away with it by demoralizing  

[02:48:27] Unknown:

us. Well, and and that's why I said earlier that racist   has been maybe it's changing, but it has been the most weaponized word. It really, really   was. It really was. And I think it still is in Canada anyway.   So the this I agree   with the morality,   aspect of, you know, all that you were saying, Patrick, it's very, very important that we have more morals and morality.   I would say that   that is tied   very much   to race.   And I'm not saying that, you know, these other people if if in their countries, maybe they have   a morality that works for them. But to mix us all together,   it is gonna be impossible   impossible to have   a, like, moral society.  

It just is not gonna work.   What I grew up in the, you know, the sixties and seventies in Edmonton,   and I would say that I was very fortunate to have grown up in probably the last generation where,   you know, your image that you're using for this   is the family.   And it's all white family there and and where they're going to there without the countryside is beautiful green and blue skies and clouds and and it's so beautiful. And and I would say that I grew up in   this utopia   that was like that, and we trusted.   It was very high trust society,   and it doesn't mean there was no crime in the city. Of course, there was. But   it it's   it was very, very different times. And   mothers were at home for the most part. I would say that was the last generation where that was the   absolute   huge majority.  

Like all my friends, it was the same thing. I I out of a class of 30 kids,   there might have been one   or two that had moms who were working outside the home and the rest of the home. Same for me. Very traditional.   Yes.   And that was, you know, made stable families,   stay stability in home, like, strong societies. That's why I say I grew up in what could be called utopia. Although,   of course, we didn't know or we didn't understand   that what was being laid down, the groundwork for what is is now happening. I mean, we were being basically, you know, fatten them up before the slaughter type of thing, you know, if you wanna take that analogy, sort of a farmyard analogy.   But,   you know, we were taught all these wonderful and beautiful things about democracy   and how,   you know, we've it's for the people, by the people, of the people. And we were also taught that we have freedom of speech and freedom of the press. And so, of course, that sound like that was perfect. Right? So that we trusted. We trusted everything they were teaching us and telling us because   if we have freedom of speech and we have freedom of the press, that means that   if somebody   dares to   tell us a lie, well, the others will put them in their place because we have freedom of the press. So they they will do their   due diligence and,   you know, it will be a self correcting system type of thing because you have the freedom of the press. But we didn't realize that that didn't really exist because they were already lying to us about what happened in World War two. And, I mean, the things we're learning in school and we were talking about   Hitler   earlier. So, I mean, you know, we learned in school that he was the most evil man that ever walked the face of the earth earth, basically. And, you know, we believed all that. We really believed it, and it was such as a deep conditioning.  



[02:52:18] Unknown:

Yep. We had the same thing. Absolutely. So  

[02:52:22] Unknown:

where was I going with this? It's the racial thing. That that's what where I wanted to go with this. There is no way   on like, it is just not gonna work. It does not work. It has never worked. That is the destruction of any culture,   any society is to mix everybody up together, and that is exactly   why our enemy, the unmentionables,   are doing this. It is orchestrated. It is planned. It is funded,   and   it is   for   our destruction. And that is where we need to Yeah. To go is is to into this this topic, you know. So   It is. How do we stop it? That's what I'd like to, you know, how do we stop it? How do we stop this from happening?  



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I guess it it it maybe it's a matter of finding out where the the big opportunity is,   where we could make a bigger mark. I mean, we last week, we were talking about flags   over here. We've got these 39 counties   and to create local   to restore local culture or a connection with it. I was talking to someone about it the other day and somebody recently had tried to put up a Union Jack somewhere and had received a complaint   and the police had visited them for flying a Union Jack here in the here in England. Right? And, this stuff will happen   and it's because there's this huge swath of people which we currently call the left or the woke lot   who appear to me currently to be almost unreachable with any of these communications. They can't stay in them without   hysterically   reacting   because the conditioning is very very deep with them. Many of them of course come out of universities over the last ten or fifteen years.  

They've had their head full of the most stupid guff. They don't know anything works but they know that there's that the the white man's responsible for all the troubles in the world, which of course begs the question if that's the case why are you all coming here to live with us? But of course they're not Exactly. They're not coming here to live with us. They're being brought here   to inadvertently,   while everybody's unconscious and can't work it out,   chew the situation down. And it's like I've used this little term here which is me being slightly mealy mouthed, being a locationist. It's not that we have the energy to hate other people. We don't. But the situation is becoming hateable   because there's huge numbers of people are in the wrong location. It's literally wrong.  

It's wrong from history, ancient history, from cultural values, from reflections in how the landscape looks and how you fit in. It's extremely delicate, subtle, and rich when it's right, and it's being wrecked and replaced by a plastic world with crap buildings which we're always banging on about. All of these are symptoms and signs of this artificially   induced world   which is going to harm   all of us, which is the plan. I mean it's just to produce this homogenized   lump of meat really called human beings   that won't have a historical connection, that can't connect with their culture and that's why they react badly. And that's why that person probably   called the police because they were offended by a union jack because they know what it symbolizes. It symbolizes an individual people saying, hey. This just happens to be us. This is what we've got. We're quite happy with it. Thank you very much. And we don't need you here sort of doing your thing. We know you want to do your thing. That's fine. But you're in the wrong place. That's always saying, you're in the wrong place. You can't do it here.  



[02:55:50] Unknown:

Your character's been dirtied.  

[02:55:52] Unknown:

Yep. Everything.  

[02:55:54] Unknown:

You know? Yeah. I'm I'm wondering though. This flag thing, I don't I don't know what we're gonna do here in America because it's a little different situation than you have over there.   I don't even know where we'd begin,  

[02:56:05] Unknown:

to be honest. Well, you have to start creating some new state flags.   You've got three and a half thousand counties. There you go. You got a big flag business to build, Patrick. It needs to be just I'm serious. I I mean, you got to do something. I mean, I know that, you know, we think of America as either flying the stars and stripes or the southern flag and the southern flag's better of course but, I don't, you know, I'm just stirring it. It's not it's not about all that kind of stuff. Why do you why do you   We know that the The US flag is basically the Freemasons on steroids. I mean, that's what all those stars are. I think on the county level even they got they got that much control.  

And we've even got talk here of a Muslim political party being formed.   They'll allow it. And like I've said it before, these people,   the good ones and the not so good ones, and there's some really bad ones as well. Everybody knows about that here. Well, don't you have a good idea? Why they've got the vote. Nobody asked me. I mean, I'm pathetic when I say that. I do understand it. But is this willingness if we accommodate them, it'll all work out. No. No. That's actually the worst thing you could possibly do. You're robbing them and us of our distinctive   differences.  

Whatever my moral judgments about their behavior are, I don't want to spend any time even voicing them. I want to actually spend time with my own people doing the right sort of thing. But, you know, they were if they form a Muslim part, they're just looking at how bovine and accepting the people are. And they go, oh, we can push this one now and they'll all they'll be in arms and we'll get our politicians to say, oh, it didn't mean this. It didn't mean that for a year, two years, three years, and then it'll be in place. And this is how it keeps on creeping   in and no one's can sort of, oh, I didn't speak out because it's so rude. You know, it's so rude.  

Anyway, look. There we go. It's a good job I've got a timer on this. Otherwise, we just talk forever, which we're gonna do anyway.   Monica, it's been great having you back again. A slightly different sort of show, but we've touched on some good things. Next time, let's talk about women and race full on. We'll we'll really plow into it. Alright. It's been great having you here. That was wonderful. It's been my pleasure. Thank you for having me on. Thank you. Love having you on. Lovely. Yeah. Thank you, Monica. Thanks, Monica. Thank you. Love having you on, Monica. Always good to get a little bit of insight into what's going on in Canada. It's pretty it's just pretty much the same as what's going on here but with a different flavor. We'll be back again same time next week, everyone.   Till then, stay safe, get happy, and think about flags, whatever I might mean by that. And,   we gotta bind together. I think that's the first thing. And then get ready for lots of verbal abuse heading your way, you racist scumbags, you lot. So,   it's okay. I'll stand by you.  

And we've gotta get stuck in. Wonderful. Okay. We'll see you all next week. Bye for now, everyone. Bye bye.