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Welcome to episode 059 of Paul English Live on WBN 324. Today, we dive into a variety of topics, starting with a light-hearted introduction that sets the tone for an autumnal, atmospheric show. We discuss the concept of 'electric vegetables' with Eric, exploring innovative agricultural techniques that harness energy from the sun to enhance crop growth without traditional fertilizers. This leads to a broader conversation about the servile state and the economic systems that bind us, referencing Hilaire Belloc's insights on capitalism and its inherent instability.

We also touch on the challenges of modern parenting, the quirks of British weather, and the cultural shifts in how we perceive and interact with our environment. The conversation takes a humorous turn as we discuss the whimsical idea of creating titles and currency for the fictional land of Fockem Hall, highlighting the absurdities of bureaucracy and power.

In the second hour, we delve deeper into the economic and political structures that govern our lives, with a focus on the banking system and the concept of usury. We explore historical perspectives and contemporary challenges, questioning how we can create a more equitable financial system. The discussion is enriched by insights into historical events, such as the German economic model during WWII, and how these lessons can inform our current struggles.

Throughout the episode, we emphasize the importance of humor, community, and grassroots initiatives in challenging the status quo and envisioning a better future. Join us as we navigate these complex topics with wit and wisdom, aiming to inspire action and awareness among our listeners.

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Oh, that sounded good, didn't it? Hi.   Bet you don't know what that was. I don't think I did either. Welcome to the show, Paul English live here on WBN   324.   We're here with you for the next couple of hours. It's just gone 3 PM US EST,   8 PM here in the UK.   Let's have a bit of fun.   And it's an autumnal   leafy atmospheric   show tonight. At least that's the way I've described it, but it probably won't be anything like that. It usually never is anything like the way I describe it.   And, we're looking forward to,   after I've done a little opening soliloquy. It's not really a soliloquy. We're looking forward to having a chat with Eric about the electric vegetables.   We'll be carrying on talking, or at least I will for a bit, about the servile state. You know, that condition that you're actually in but you don't know too much about. Actually, you probably know a great deal about it.  

All that drumming. My son says he wants to be a drummer. This is this is not what you want to hear really.   Drums all the time. I know. Having been in a band a long time ago, the drummer was the one who had to carry all the kit. Any of you have been in bands, you'll know about all that kind of stuff, I'm sure.   Before we plunge into the show,   before we plunge into the show proper, as it were,   I got a little piece of information today from head office at wbn 324,   which was fantastic to get. And,   by way of a disclaimer or an interest oh, look at that. It's disappeared. No, it hasn't. Yes, it has. I'll come back to that in a second.   I've got something to play in a second or 2.  

I'm just yes. Good grief. I wonder what happened to that. Right. Well, that's buggered my intro up, hasn't it? Right, left, and center.   Let me see if I can find this. I've got to play you something because I'm under strict orders to do just that, and, of course, this is called a bumbling start to the show, but regular listeners will know,   that bumbling bumbling starts are kind of my specialty.   Here we go. Listen to this. You, we have to play this. So here you go. Thank you for listening to WBN 324 talk radio. We now need to advise you that all shows that air on our network are strictly over 18 years old.   Thank you for listening to wbn324   talk radio. What I found out when I got into number 10.  

Was that I was over 18 years of age. That was Liz Truss there. So there you go. This is a show for over 18. So if you're under 18 years of age, stop listening right now. I don't mean that, of course.   We're a very well behaved show here. Though, you won't get any foul language apart from a bit from Eric possibly every now and again, but even that's not too bad. It's a bit cheeky, but we're not vulgar.   Although it's early days. We only just started the show.   Anyway,   so there you go. We'll be playing that regularly as part of our setup here. It covers us for certain reasons. I've been informed, and so we want to be covered for certain reasons, and and that's why you just got to hear it.   Anyway, without further ado,   let me introduce the crew. Well, that rhymed as well. So,   in order of arriving here on time, Patrick,   good afternoon to you. What's it like in   bewilderingly beautiful Wisconsin today?  

Oh, it's breezy. The trees still have color to them, and they haven't all fallen off. The leaves haven't. So, yeah, it's good. Very nice mild weather, not too cold like yesterday where it got down below 0. Did it?   Celsius.   Oh. So   yeah. Good here. Nippy nippy day. We well, we're having, that where I am, I don't know what it's like where Eric is. But here in my little part of England, we're having a beautiful autumnal day. It really has been perfect today. Warm all day, about   19, 20 degrees. Don't know why. So it really is an Indian summer day here.   So that's been going on quite well. And right now, anybody in England who might be outside and looking up to the heavens, if you haven't got any cloud cover, will notice that there is an absolutely amazing full moon. It is stonkingly beautiful tonight. So I like to, look at those sorts of things, but it's absolutely blazing in the sky right now. And I was going around with my orange glasses on earlier today,   driving in them, crashing into all sorts of cars as I get used to them, and meeting other friendly motorists. And, the moon, I can view it either as a white moon, which, of course, is its proper color, I guess, or the harsh blue light,   or a golden orange moon. So that's what's been going on here, or is going on here right now.  

Eric,   what's the weather like where you are? Greetings. Welcome to the show, good sir. How are you this evening? Oh, it's   oh, I'm absolutely, absolutely,   beezer as I used to say.   I'm   beezer tonight. Yes. And, it's it's been nice out. It really has.   Oh, no. Sorry about that. I word that differently. It's a nice day here. It's absolutely gorgeous.   And it's a bit like,   early summer. You know, nice and warm, sunny.   And,   I've got an organic   dryer.   It's called, rotary   clothes dryer.   And and I got everything dry. Beautiful. I was really pleased, really happy. So, you know, and,   so you got dry clothes. You've got dry clothes. Dry clothes. And, I got not only dry clothes, but I've got the old aluminium over them from the chemtrails and all that and all the other chemicals. So, you know, it protects the,   cotton. So that that that's so happy days, you know. Oh, nice.  

I I washed my, it's very exciting. We always like to start off with extremely tedious, humdrum, domestic news. I love the excitement. Me too. Yeah. I like well, I always think that if we start off in a really pathetic kind of way, it makes all the other stuff seem a lot more interesting. Do you know what I mean? So   it's contrast. I know what I'm doing. We start off we start off low key, and we ease into these things. That's what we gotta do. I actually washed my,   my bedspread,   the other day, but the air was too damp.   So I I I didn't know what to do last night. I was awake all night without any no. That's not true. Of course, I made other arrangements.  

But, oh, the stresses and strains of being a happy housewife these days, you know, washing your stuff. I now understand why my mum used to curse so much. Well, she didn't really, but she would cross, let's put it that way, if the weather was a little bit damp, and all the washing was on the line, and running in and out, you know,   like a squirrel.   Not that they necessarily do those things. It's a very bad analogy.   Picking all the washing off of the line, going, oh, this weather and all that kind of stuff. So, yes, I've I've I'm enjoying those sorts of things as well. So it's been good.   But today,   wow, today,   Gorgeous.  

Absolutely fantastic. Yeah. If you got a greenhouse Yes. Put you in the   especially in the winter, put your washing in the greenhouse.   Any sun that comes out dries it off. And if it rains, it doesn't get wet.   You've you've given me another reason why my spring project of building one from scratch is looking ever more attractive. I've got to plan it out of the winter, but that's what I'm planning to do. Yeah. I want one. Excellent. Yeah. I've got this. Glass or plastic? You can have plastic,   stuff or you can have glass because with glass greenhouses,   that tends to burn anything in in in the greenhouse. But including me?  

Including you. Yes. But if you have that plastic stuff, it doesn't last so long, but it doesn't burn the, plants. So you've got a choice. I'm gonna have to study that with some vigor, aren't I, and some detail. There's always a right and a wrong way to do everything.   I just like the idea of,   sitting in there   as I move through my seasoned years, as it were,   reading books on a Sunday, you know, listening to classical music, pottering around, getting one I wanna get one of those jumpers with the walnut buttons. You know those things? And you keep little toffees in the pockets and all that kind of stuff. I don't really. But no one's keeping that tradition going, so maybe it's gonna fall to the likes of you and me, Eric, to keep it going, you know. The Yes. Yeah. The kindly uncle with the toffees in his pockets and things, and there's always bits of lint and fluff in there. Do you remember all that kind of stuff? It's stuck to the sweets. Would you like a boiled sweet? No. It's covered in fluff.   It did. It did. But, but it is nice sitting in there in the winter   because you get a little bit of sun out. It gets very warm very quickly and, you think of all the heating that you're saving in the house. Yeah. No. That's good.  

Yeah. Because we're currently gonna have blackout soon, aren't we? We're gonna have 3 hours at a time. I'm looking forward to them. I'm really excited. Everything that they say makes me really happy. Anyway, speaking of happiness,   Paul,   welcome back to the show.   How are you this fine afternoon, I guess, in your time? How's things going for you?   There's no happy here. I live in the United States. Of course, there is. You're a happy man. Here.   I don't know. How positively democratic of you. You you, introduce people. You   began. So I do not mind being last. I just don't.  

You're not last. Last is first and first is last. You know, all for 1 and one for all as some French wag once wrote down, I think, somewhere.   And that goes outside of the purview of this studio, dear listeners. You're included too. We're all one big, cheery, happy family, aren't we? Yes, indeed. We are.   We are. We're very happy.   So any anything interesting in your week, Paul, over the past few days? Because you were we didn't hear too much last week. I think you'd be you had quite a hectic time of it.   Well, actually, I'm still about the hectic time of it. And,   I,   I showed up to connect the streams and,   connect the rooms, and the radio ranchers are are chomping at the bit to listen to you. There's 12 people over there.  

They're hanging on literally hanging on your every word, but I'm going to be in and out. So,   I'll I'll be here in spirit, but probably not in body. So   Okay. No. You will. I'm still I'm still in the hectic thing. You can buy a locate or whatever that's called.   Buy a what?   This is where you can be in 2 places at once.   Who can be in 2 places at once? Can you do that? That's what I need. Paul can do that. He's he's a tech whiz.   Yeah. I need a clone.   No. No. We no. No. We don't want clones. You need one of those. Don't you don't you need an Elon Musk robot, Paul? Don't we all need one of those? I would   I have I have always been completely on board with whole cloning thing from, like, 25 years ago, 30 years ago. I wanted one to keep the wife happy,   one to go to work, and me, of course, to play.  

Want to keep the wife happy. What does that mean?   Well, you know, the honeydew list and all that happy stuff. Oh, right. Okay. Make sure that that clone was not so equipped as to be, competitive in other areas. But Mhmm. And and Blimey. I've I I think I just I said that safely enough, especially considering this is an all adult show.   We yeah. This doesn't mean we have to sort of good grief. I think no. Let's forget all that. We'll we'll just carry on as if we'd never heard that, but we will be playing it regularly. And I'm glad we do. I like all that sort of stuff even though I cocked it up as usual at the beginning. It was ready when I looked 10 minutes ago, and then I went to place the pencil button and it disappeared.   These things occur, don't they? Well, they do to me anyway. So   too much. Juggling far too many   cats or whatever they say. Quick shout out, actually more than a quick shout out, big shout out to everybody in the Rumble chat. So this is Paul English live. We're here every Thursday 3 PM to 5 PM US Eastern on WBN, and, 8 PM to 10 PM on WBN in the UK. We also overrun   generally, all the time by an hour. And just to let you know, dear listeners, it will absolutely be exactly to an hour tonight. We're gonna end in the UK at 11 o'clock on Rumble.  

At least that's my intention. Famous last words.   And,   what time would that be? 6 PM US Eastern. So if you want to get immersed in the chat, in the lively Rumble chat room,   just head on over to paulenglishlive.com   and click the Rumble link there.   You will need a Rumble account, I think, to be able to type your pearls of wisdom. There's already many of them in there. So quick shout out to everybody who's already pounding away.   I see that Aunt Sally's already written. Evening, folks. I was literally just out feeding the deer whilst I walked my my dogs. The moon was very bright. I'm in East London and Essex, so not a 1000000 miles from you, Eric. How about that? No. No. I often see her. I I go into,   homeopathic. Well, they say no. Not homeopathic.  

She's a a acupuncturist   and that. And I sometimes see aunt aunt Sally in in in his shop. So,   yeah. She's not a 1000000 miles away. No.   Yeah. So there we go. Lovely. Some inside information there. We we sometimes   secretly meet   in Myles's shop, doctor Myles Fleetwood. No. We don't secretly meet. We just You all know one another. I don't know anybody. You actually see each other, don't you? You see each other in real life. That's amazing. It's like, hello.   But hello. What is it doing here? I don't know. Yeah. While you're speaking strangely, I don't know. I'm speaking strangely. You know? That that type of thing. Yeah. I know. Yeah. Like you normally speak.   I know we speak. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I don't know. I think it would be a good idea if we all   talked like this under the direction   of the Fockem Hall Minister of Crazy Voice Service.  

I should probably do that. That's very good.   We absolutely   could do that.   Oh, that's fine. We could do it. Yes. Throw in an act pen, and you'd probably never even know it was me if you didn't tell me the dingy, the dingy, the lightning.   Is   Eric, is that, the ambassadors and the diplomats for Fockem Hall? Look, I'm choking again.   Did they get trained to speak like that? You know, when, the ambassadors Of course. Yeah. Of course. Yes. Yes.   And Yeah. So the ambassadors   do. Do you remember those that advert for Ferrero Rocher chocolates?   What was it? The ambassadors do you remember those really snotty adverts for Ferrero Rocher chocolate chocolates in the eighties? At the ambassador's party or something, or the ambassador's reception, they only serve Ferrero Rocher.  

I don't know why I mentioned that, but it just came up.   But shit. Sorry. I I hope they were they they were I didn't say the word. I said they were   rubbish. Rubbish. I didn't say.   They were very expensive for what they were. God, I'm still cross about it now.   I'm sorry. I only swear it slips out. Look at me coughing. Are you allowed to cough live on air? I just did. It's terrible.   If I'd been working for BBC Radio 1 in the 80th, they've had me fired for that. You can't cough behind the mic, they would have said. Anyway, I think talking like that might wear a bit thin if we all talk in that sort of way. There's that very pedantic way as well that certain English people have,   of talking in that way, isn't it? It's fascinating. They don't realize just how profoundly dull they are.  

I always remember a definition of when someone's really boring you,   you know, when they've got you and you just sat there wilting,   is it not the case that what they're doing is they're not able to discern between the really interesting and salient points in a story   and all the other detritus that they wrap around it. It's just relentless detail. Well, I got up that morning. Yes. And, of course, the bed wasn't made properly, but I went downstairs, and it just goes on like that. And you you know what I'm talking about? There are a lot of people in England like that. I don't know if you get them in America,   but there's a certain type in England that is a little bit like that. And, fortunately, I haven't bumped into them recently, which is why I'm moderately happy   at the moment. They always wear acrylic, don't they? Sorry. I didn't mean to cut Do they? But they always wear acrylic and flare trousers.  

The the the trousers always,   from the sort of seventies or eighties, that moderately flare trouser look.   Yeah. And brown   brown and blue is what they generally wear, but it's always acrylic. It's gotta be acrylic acrylic. I don't know quite why. I know. I gotta get away from all of that stuff. You know, I was talking about the the bed linen. Gosh. Fascinating start to the show today, isn't it? We're really pushing the boat out of here. But when I, I it took me ages to find a 100% cotton one. And a quick shout out to anybody in the chat. I'm looking for 100%   cotton everything.  

So I, and I want to know if there's kind of a 100% cotton supply. There probably is, but I'm just too lazy to have looked. So I want 100% cotton sweatshirts, t shirts, underwear. Yes.   I probably should invest, I think, in a pair of,   jeans made out of hemp.   In fact, there's a company, I think, up in Yorkshire,   Yorkshire, that make, they're called the Hemp Clothing Company,   and the stuff's pricey. But the   the beguiling   attractive feature, I believe, about, for example, hemp jeans, which is possibly what the original   genes were made out of in the States, you guys would have to inform me, is that they're softer and last longer   than the the these mixes. And I'm sure that they're much healthier for your body. Got to get rid of all this nylon junk and all this other stuff,   which is very, very bad for you. I'm sure people get rashes   in in awkward places, you know, like Blackpool and things like that. And, you don't you don't want any of that going on at all. So,   anyway, I haven't checked my underwear recently to see exactly what it's made of, which is a bit worrying. Well There we go.  

But I've actually be careful because,   I mean I'd never do it on air. I'm   I'm doing,   I'm actually checking my underwear at the moment. You see? Oh, terribly sorry. But I don't know what I was gonna say is,   be careful because I'm going for all cotton and woolen,   stuff for, you know, pullovers and things like that and silk   for,   ascots and things like that. Now what I was gonna say is I went into Marks and Spencer's because I don't normally go there, but I've got a gift token. So I thought I might as well spend it on something. So I've spent it on bedding.   And they've got 100%   cotton   fitted sheets, you see? So I thought, well, that's that's a bit alright.  

So   I ordered it online and I picked it up in the shop.   And when I got it home, I thought,   that looks like nylon.   It feels like nylon.   Looks like nylon. And when you look on there, it says a 100% cotton. It's some   new,   technology they're using or something.   So,   so so you don't have to iron it.   But it lit literally feels and looks if, you know, if I if I showed you that material now, you say, oh, it's nylon. Tisn't it? It's cotton. It's a 100% cotton. It's all smooth and it's I don't like it. It's horrible. Cotton should be like a matte finish, not a glossy finish. It's got a glossy finish. Right. How weird. Has anybody else come against that?   Because,   you know, I don't wanna   I I I hope well, it says it on the Internet, and it says it on the product. Cotton, 100%,   from Egypt, Egyptian cotton.  

I'm I'm still reeling a bit from the fact that you got a gift voucher and didn't spend it on their food. That's normally what I would do, I suppose.   Could you spend gift tokens on their food? I don't know. I'd I'd have a go. Very good. I thought you'd be very good. Sandwiches   even though they're ludicrously priced these days. You have to take a mortgage out just to go in there, I think. That's a bit of an exaggeration everybody, but they're pretty steep, aren't they? They really are. I bought a cap also, and I decided to try it out. I walked across a field and the wind blew it off. And I picked up about 5 caps before I found but before I found the right one.   Right.  

That's a terrible joke.   Yeah. This is a cow   a field full of cows. Yes. Anyway, don't   that   go use your imagination for that one.   Yeah.   Yeah. Anyway, swiftly moving on.   Yeah. No.   I'm trying to keep up with the chat here as well whilst I'm listening to you, and I'm not doing a very good job there, Eric, was I? You could see I was getting slightly sort of befuddled. Someone put a shout out for another track by JJ Kale tonight. I can't remember which one it was. It's somewhere up the thread there. And, of course, they said, well, we had somebody said, well, we had JJ Kale last week. Yes, we did. But, really, you can't have enough JJ Kale, and someone's blamed me for putting them onto JJ Kale.   It's the most,   it really is the grooviest move music ever put together, I think. It's the sort of thing you can just play for days   days. So I'll dig something out by JJ Kale. We probably will play something,   coming up at the half hour mark or or pretty soon. And we've got I've got a nice autumnal   song lined up for the top of the hour   and other things. And speaking of autumn and the and the mood of autumn,   my little comment there that, you know, on the show, this is a leaf kicking autumnal   atmospheric addition, which it may or may not be. We've mentioned the moon, and we've got plenty of leaves around here. But you see the chap and the chappess in today's show picture. You've probably seen them, I think, guys.  

Isn't that how we should all be dressing? I I I don't mean like ladies, of course, although the ladies could be dressing like that. We would like that a lot.   But I would imagine that that chap, on what he's wearing, there probably isn't any nylon or man made fiber in anything that he was wearing at the time. That picture's obviously a magazine cover, I think, from the States, of course,   about 1956   or something like that. It's   I don't know. Is it nostalgia that I'm for for a place I never was in in the 19 fifties? But there was kind of echoes of that in the dress styles over here at the time, don't you think?   Silence.  

Where's everybody on? I'm here. I'm here. Oh, good. Bobby. Yeah. Yeah. It it looks like it's,   very warm. I'd I'd rather wear something like that than most of these puff jackets people wear, hoodies.   Yeah. You don't see many people in hoodies back then.   No. Yeah. I guess it today, if we were to try and dress like that, it cost a bomb, wouldn't it? I wonder what the overcoat would cost. Not that I think about these things much. I think that probably think about how how how long would they last? That's the question.   Probably quite a while. Probably quite a while. Of course, hats, you can kiss that goodbye. Well, the hats have gone, haven't they really? And he's not wearing a trilby. That's probably a fedora that he's got on, I guess, but there we go. So   yes.  

Anyway,   anything going on in the news? As I guess, everybody's bracing themselves   for your upcoming   US election. I was just checking the schedule here. We've, it turns out that Thursdays,   we're actually we'll be broadcasting here on Halloween, which is October 31st.   I don't know what to make of that. I I know as a kid, Halloween was a complete nonevent,   where I grew up. It was just, we didn't even bother with it, to be quite honest. I think when we were really young, we tunneled out a few turnips or swedes or whatever and put candles in them. But there certainly were there was no tradition of buying pumpkins over here. And yet, I was in the supermarket yesterday,   as you do, and there were just piles of, of pumpkins for sale. This is a this is a sort of fashion and a trend that's been shifted into US,   sorry, into UK culture, I guess,   over the years. But I'm such an old fart. I've never really bought into it. I always thought Halloween was a bit silly. Now, courtesy of the Internet and what we've been some of us, of course, have been consuming, I guess, over the past x number of years,   it is, of course, associated with rather hellish events,   unfortunately,   unless that's just more fear mongering.  

What do you guys think? I mean, we'll we can cover this on October 31st in tedious minute detail if you want to, but, not the   Well, the local lavatory near,   the Ghent's laboratory   Steady. Near where I live Yeah. Is actually haunted   by Freddie,   Mercury look alike,   an apparition.   And,   what happens is,   apparently, so so so the sort of, legend goes,   he often put tries to put the willies up, the, visitors that go in there.   It's, you know, it's it's it's quite frightening, apparently. So good job we did have that disclaimer at the beginning. Just because I put the disclaimer out doesn't mean you've got to march right what I've just. No. No. Because I think I told you what I said. He's he's put he's put he's frightening people as an apparition, you see? I mean wrong in putting I'm still reeling from the idea that anybody would want to be a Freddie Mercury lookalike. I mean, how sad is that?   I mean, that's really super sad, isn't it? But I guess,   some people   Or or hot public toilet or water closets, as you call them. Mhmm.  

Yeah.   Yes. That's disturbing enough.   It is. It's very dis   I say it's a look alike. It's not him. It's it's a look alike. You see someone that's dressing   a ghost that's dressing like him, you see. So so it's not actually him himself. No. But the only thing he does do is,   he sorts, you know, something like that to sort out any constipation issues.   Yes.   Yes. I I've never really thought about that, and I don't think I'm going to anymore.   Now, Eric, although I couldn't join last week, we made a big,   I did, anyway. I made made a big brouhaha about the Electric Vegetables event, which, as you know, Eric, I couldn't attend. I've got certain sort of,   pretty heavy domestic obligations at the moment, and I I worked it out on the travel chart and everything. And it was   I thought getting back down to the South Coast, having to go via London on a Sunday evening, late afternoon,   was not a good idea because, obviously, as many people are aware,   that's one of the great heavy traffic times in the UK when all the people that have gone away to their palatial   country houses,   start flooding back into London for their   office drone jobs and things like this.  

But you were able to attend, weren't you?   Yes. Yes. It was very interesting as well. And the weather held out very nicely. It was,   and it is,   it's a beautiful part of,   Suffolk because people think Suffolk's flat. It isn't. It's quite hilly. And, you know, if you take a picture of it and say it was Devon, people would believe you because it is is that it's undulating   the hills that just like Devon.   And,   but it's in the middle of nowhere. You know, you gotta go through a lot of little old country lanes where you gotta back up if not cars coming the other way because it's only the width of 1 car.   And,   but   it's marvelous because   I found out some things about it, but, my interpretation of what was being said, and my interpretation   could be wrong, so I'm just, you know, I'm I'm   but that's why I I got it is that,   trees   get their energy from the sun. And of course, they shed their leaves around this time of the year. Yep. And   that's how you get, you know, apples and fruit and whatever.  

Well, what this is actually doing is a similar thing. It's pulling the e or the ether or the energy from the sun, it's very scientific,   into what you grow.   And they found archaeologists have found these strange looking chimp dee pot things all around Europe.   And   the,   archaeologists have said, oh, they are used for ceremonial purposes.   Well, they weren't.   They were used for the purposes of this type of growing.   And   I saw,   marrows that have been grown there. I think they were marrows. They were huge. Solid in my own eyes. Very big.   And,   the good thing about it is it doesn't starve the vegetable of nutrition   because it's still grown in the ground,   but the vegetable is getting what it wants   and putting fertilizer   on it.  

And, I gotta be careful what I'm saying now because they've had quite a few, videos   taken down on YouTube.   And   as with the health industry, we've got the big farmer. Within the farming industry, we got the big fertilizer   people.   And the obviously, if this takes on in a big way, they're gonna be out of pocket, aren't they? And that's what they don't want. Because the idea of,   of plowing apparently destroys the soil. You don't dig, you don't plow at all.   And it's I won't sort of go into full details,   but it's to do with some sort of electricity.   There's galvanized wire and copper involved   and sort of aerials which draw this   ether for the want of a better word in   very very interesting it was and I thought it's very good value because it's £5 to get in including a meal which is not bad, is it? Today's prices. And that was that was Mike the bowler hatted farmer who set all that up. Is that right? Yeah? Yes. Yes. And he's actually got a shop there, but it's on wheels, so you'd have to get planning permission for it. To trial a trailer, be on a trailer.  

And it's a honesty box. People go in there Yeah. And they get the vegetables that they want, and they put the money in the box. And he said he's got a little camera that he can obviously, you know, keeps an eye on occasionally. And he said, you know, notices people cleaning the place up and tidying it up and leaving notes in a little diary that fit there because with everything you get, they ask you to write it down. And I thought that's absolutely fantastic   and,   beautiful vegetables,   And, you know, it's something I'm trying to find out more about.   Obviously, you need someone who   deals with it on to serve it because it's secondhand from me.  

But they didn't show you they showed   you basic how you do it. You charge things up like rocks. And you use basalt   from,   a volcano.   And you pour this basalt into one of these, like, chimney pots.   And that charges,   does does sum it to the energy of the ground,   but there's lots of other things involved as well. So it's That's interesting. We've got tons of that around here. There's a whole line going from here to the next few towns over of basalt in the ground and   there's a   a quarry   down in Dresser, Wisconsin   that   makes it into nice   nice,   sized   type of, what do you call that, ballast material that you can put down on your driveway   That's true. Type stuff.  

Yeah. Oh, and we call we call it We well, the word we use for it is trap rock.   Yeah. I don't know where it gets the name trap rock, but it it traps some sort of mineral in it besides basalt. But,   yeah, we had a lava flow through here   way back in the day, obviously, not   in recorded history, but   quite quite something.   So, yeah, that's cool. I I didn't I didn't know they used that for the electro culture, and they put it in the chimney pot type thing. You'll I'll have to That's right. With with other rocks and   and other rocks and things like that. But this goes back 300 years or even more, probably 1000 years. It goes back a hell of a long way. Do they do they grow it in did   experiments with it in the 19 forties,   but,   I the way I view it, I think the, money came first.  

And,   the people that, had invested interests, they didn't want that to win over because   apparently, what we're doing with we this idea of putting   fertilizer on, keep putting fertilizer on is ridiculous.   And, Mike said,   what the way this works goes   almost all what he was taught against all what he was taught at,   agricultural college.   He said it's just goes it's just the complete opposite.   You know, he he would,   plow a field, but no. You don't plow a field or anything like that.   So it it's it's a I I I'm home to do it in my garden, you know, and and you can. You and you can grow a lot of vegetables in a very small space. That's another one you can do, you know.   Is it Eric just said   yeah. Yeah. Sorry. Sorry. Carry on. Well, just said I I I I I'll sorry. He said an honesty box wouldn't last 5 minutes where I live. I've even seen them steal the wood from a deceased person's memorial bench twice.  

Well, this is, Great. That's good, innit? Yeah. Yeah. It is But what this is what I like about going out to sort Suffolk and places like that. I mean, I drove for miles on the way back. I went through the back roads without seeing another car. It's just empty. Beautiful. Absolutely beautiful.   Go through the villages, all nice,   thatched cottages.   Just like England was, say, in the 19 fifties or forties.   Beautiful,   apart from the modern cars and that. Oh, and speed cameras.   And all that other stuff. Is it did you mention or did,   Mike,   mention that they're doing another gig whilst they're here later this month? Is that right? These   the Italian electric growers, the October 20th   or something somewhere. Are you aware of that?  

Yes. Well, no. They're doing a,   online thing tonight, believe it or not. Oh, great. I'm not on there because I because   the the because, of course, my priorities lie here, of course.   Well done. But I'm hoping to go on to the second one. Yeah. And, I think there is another gig, and and I don't know when. But if there is, I'll go to it again because it's well worth it. It's a   the the journey isn't an easy one   because it is in the middle of Owen. You gotta do a lot of country lane driving.   But I don't mind that. I think that's, you know, that's quite nice.   Yes.  

But it is up near Bury St. Edmunds. So it's a fair fair distance.   Well, yeah. Depending on how I would love to get up to I mean, it would be great to maybe even get the guys on here just even for half an hour or 45 minutes to go through things if we could catch a hold of them. Or even Mike and try and get Mike on for an hour in in this 3 hour slot. That would be really good. By the way, I I have not He's coming on with me. And,   the chaps, they're so busy. They've actually launched this, and it's so busy that they've actually canceled a show with me. So Mike's coming on, but but the the the 3 chaps that are doing it have had to cancel it because they're so busy. Well, that's a good sign though. That's great. One way. Yes. Yeah. It is.   And I've failed to apologize to you all. I I mentioned last week, or at least inform you, update you. My guest I did have a guest lined up for tonight,   Thomas Anderson, who's been on before. And I mentioned last week we were gonna be discussing   the jolly old relationship between the Germans and the Russians, and I'd prepped a bit for that. So I got caught short because I got a message from him this morning that he couldn't make it.  

We've rescheduled it for next Thursday, so these things happen. It's part of, you know, booking guests and all that kind of stuff. It sometimes happens that way. But I did mention,   electric vegetables to him, which is I like to call them electric vegetables because I think it's a fun way to get the topic going. And it turns out I mean, he's obviously German. I think he lives in he lives in Switzerland. So he's in and around the area where I think you mentioned there's been a kind of a growth of this, you know, in northern Italy,   Austria, Switzerland,   all around there. Yeah. Well, he's very familiar with it. I said, really? He said, oh, yeah. He's very up to speed and all this kind of stuff. So when we get him on, apart from talking about historical things and current things with regards to the,   you know,   convoluted, bogus, fractious relationship between the Germans and the Russians.  

Not dissimilar in many ways to the fractious and pointlessly bogus relationship between   the historical Britain and Germany, which we've touched upon here many times and will no doubt do so many more times to come.   We can get him to talk about the vegetables as well because I think it would be good. I've noticed quite a few shows recently just talking about things like raw milk,   vegetables. This whole thing of connecting up direct with farmers, certainly for us over here, is such a constructive thing that we can do.   And when I get a bit more time, this sounds awfully lame, but I'm just I'm flat out   every day with juggling so many tiresome things that I'm not gonna go into. But I've never had so many sort of discombobulating   sort of tasks to do each day, which are taking me away from what I would really like to spend more time doing. That that this period will change at some point, but that would be great. So   we'll see. It'd be good. I I I respect the fact that you're doing something with Mike soon. Maybe in a month's time or so, or before this year's out, it'd be great to get him on and go over this stuff again. Because repetition is a good thing, and getting people connected up with where they can go, you know, to get plugged into these things is is is great. So,   also, I mentioned did I mention last week here, or was it when I was with you the other day? I say I forget what what I've mentioned.  

Last week, did I talk about this very long   video? I think I did, but it's worth mentioning again with doctor Jack Kruse, k r u s e.   You mentioned that. Yes. I did. Well, I'm gonna I am mentioning it again because it's very long and requires more than one listening. And if you didn't if you weren't here last week, everybody, there's a video on,   YouTube   about 4 and a quarter hours long. That's how you will find this one. It's quite recent with a guy called Danny something or other.   It's quite an amazing interview. I've been listening to it in like 40 minute chunks as I've been,   walking around   contemplating the universe, something down the seafront here, doing my sort of little task that I have to do. It's,   it's like concentrated   orange juice. The thing is so rich in information,   that it's gonna take more than one listening. But, you know, he's talking about,   and this taps in with what you're talking about with the vegetables.  

And I did mention this last week, but again, we repeated.   He he is of the view   that 90% of all the energy that we take in to live off comes to us directly from the sun.   And,   the sun, of course, is transmitting   far more than just light and heat. There's other things going on. There certainly is in the esoteric tradition, and I am,   very sympathetic to that. I think that I think the sun, obviously,   you know, without it, we don't live. But I think it's adding an awful lot more than just the warmth and the heat. I know that without that, we're kind of done for.   But,   he talks about that a great   in a great length. And I don't know if you guys have listened to it. There's a very moving section of it,   where he's talking about,   because he's a brain surgeon and a heart surgeon. So this guy is as close, I guess, to a rocket scientist. It's terrible analogy.  

He's probably smarter than a rocket scientist in terms of what he's doing. And he he talks about a terrible incident for a young girl who had been beaten up severely,   really badly,   who was about 15 years of age. And,   her injuries are horrific the way he describes them, and she was brought to him,   really almost at death's door with severe head injuries. Let me just put it that way. I'm not gonna graphically describe it. You need to listen to it to get the full impact of it.   But he made a commitment there and then that he was gonna save her life,   and he worked on her straight without a break, sleep, or anything for 22 hours,   reconstructing   her damaged skull. Let's put it that way.  

And, it's the most amazing,   amazing sort of,   testimonial and event and anecdote.   Certainly, it absolutely hit me like a hammer when I was listening to it, which is unfortunately just about what I think roughly had hit this girl.   Something very very bad had happened to her.   And, he saved her life.   He was also talking about a thing called methylene blue, which you may have come across. It's been running around,   in all sorts of information circles with regards to health.   I know because I'm using it, and I'm I'm using it on my wife who is unwell.   And he was he said at one point that   he used more methylene blue on this girl than he'd ever used in his life. I don't know what that means, but it was to stop the swelling of the brain. This thing also kills brain parasites.  

There's the most fascinating stuff in there.   And if you've seen the picture of him with the orange glasses on, I want you all to know that I'm wearing mine right now. I think I mentioned it earlier in the show. I've been driving around with them on. And,   I look cool   again.   Actually, this is not true. I look a little a bit like brains from the sixties, as if I've got psychedelic glasses on. It's a bit odd. But all the screens I'm looking at right now are orange, and all this I'm just getting used to it.   But it's supposed to do you a power of good because,   the   they have intentionally designed lighting systems   in every area of your life to emit blue light,   particularly the screens on mobile phones, and these cause a dopamine hit,   and you become addicted to the dopamine hit. This is why the phones are subtly addictive in a way other than just that, you know, all the information, and the fact that you can't miss a message and all that kind of stuff,   which I know is going on with an awful lot of people. But people are literally becoming addicted to them because of this blue light. And they made a conscious decision   to make it blue light for these very purposes. And he talks about this   being linked through with many of the horrific things that they developed,   during the MK Ultra program, which I think began in the fifties   and rolled on for an awful long time.  

And I can't recommend the interview highly enough. It covers so much. I mean, so so much from the development of atomic bombs at Los Alamos,   why   a modalitz   built Las Vegas   there. He didn't build it because he just wanted to show off in the desert. It's because it's near Los Alamos, and there was a reason for that because he was a Mossad agent.   It's all it intertwines with the assassination of JFK.   Everything comes together, and you go it's an absolute,   massively complex story that he tells. But it it just turns out that he was in a position to acquire this information, and he relays it so well.   Crystal clear communication. He's got a phenomenal sort of articulation   and memory about these events. I can't recommend it highly enough.  

I actually I actually got a hold of it. I had to turn it into audio because I can't watch videos. I can't I can't just watch people talking. There are things to do, and I take information in better by audio when I'm doing other things as well. So,   again, a shout out for that. If you haven't seen it, doctor Jack Crews, go and look for it on YouTube, 4 and a quarter hours.   You it will be a very good spend of your time. Seriously.   It's got some excellent, excellent stuff, and it's all tapping into this field.   I just wonder if any you had a chance to dip into it since we mentioned it last week. Don't worry if you haven't. This is not there's not a test. It doesn't matter.  

No? Yeah.   I've actually bought pair of those glasses. They're very good, and I haven't got them yet. I've just ordered them. Yeah.   And they go over my glasses as I'm watching the computer. So they're like, these that sort of and,   I'm thinking of buying a pair for when I'm on my bike as well because I wear sunglasses.   And   when you think about it,   as many especially at night, you look at all the blue light that's around and things like that. Yeah.   Signage,   street lamps, all blue light now. It's it's really getting too much. That's that's the problem.   Now I get I I,   that's great. Now there's someone else here who might want to comment on this or maybe something else, because he's been, in the call in studio. Just to let you know, if you wanna call into the show at any time, we we keep this channel open.  

If you go to paulenglishlive.comforward/call,   ca, double l, paulenglishlive.comforward/call   on your browser,   and you've you've got a microphone and some headphones or some speakers or whatever, we can take you in. But,   David, you're with us here in the studio. Welcome to the show. Are you there?   No.   Well, there we go. He is there. I can see him.   Alright.   Well, the channel's out, David, if you if you wanna come in and say something,   at any point. And if you don't, you don't. I'll come back to David in a second or 2. He just doesn't appear to be there right now. Maybe he's maybe he's gone for a walk in the in the wonderful moonlight this evening.   Yeah.  

Cool. Okay.   Now what else did I mention at the beginning of the show that I think is worth redipping back into again? Yes. I mentioned   this might run over the break as well depending on on where we take take it. Last week, you may recall   I mentioned,   The Servile State   by,   Hilaire Belok,   And,   I had come across the book in my tidying up the other week, and I've got it out again. And I'd   I've actually got a relatively recent reprint of it. It's a wonderful   it's a wonderful document. I'm probably gonna when I've finished the Goebbels book, which probably talk a little bit about tonight as well, which is I'm about 20 pages from the end. And I've been I've been keeping it at bay, that book, because it's been,   amazing to read. We'll we'll touch on that. And I and I had hoped to talk about that   in part with Thomas tonight, but we can talk about it briefly anyway, and then we'll probably come up again next week.  

But I was   digging through, as I mentioned last week, a lot of books.   Still doing a lot of tidying up here and trying to get them on the bookshelves in the proper order. But the servile state really is,   a very very useful book, and I was just going through it earlier today trying to find a few bits to read out.   And   the bit I was just looking at was chapter, I think it's 5 or something.   Yeah. Section 5. They're in sections. Let's just give you a few snippets here because this leads into the,   really, the the core topic of this show, which I don't always we don't always sit on. Obviously, we're talking about all sorts of fun things as well as this,   but it's to do with the banking system,   the misunderstanding   of it, the economy, the complete misunderstanding   of that.  

And Belloc's book written in 1912   is an excellent guide to to laying out what the fundamental   sort of dynamic problems are. Anyway, section 5 is called   the capitalist state in proportion as it grows perfect   grows   unstable.   And he writes this, he says, the capitalist state is unstable and indeed,   more properly, a transitory phase   lying between 2 permanent and stable states of society.   In order to appreciate why this is so, let's recall the definition of the capitalist state. So the capitalist state is a society   I do sound like an economics lecturer here. The capitalist state is not my sort of usual language, but he writes, a society   in which the ownership of the means of production,   oh, I shoulda wanna hear that, is confined to a body of free citizens,   not large enough to make up properly a general character of that society,   while the rest, that's you and me probably, dear listener,   are dispossessed of the means of production and are therefore proletarian,   and we call this capitalist.  

So a capitalist state basically produces   what I refer to as like the patrician class, the creditor class,   the ones who are acquiring ever more purchasing power courtesy of all sorts of mechanisms, not least of them   being usury, which we talk about a lot here.   And he goes on to say, a society thus constituted cannot endure.   It cannot endure because it is subject to 2 very severe strains. Strains which increase in severity, in proportion   as that society becomes more thoroughly capitalist. And that's the condition that we're in right now. We're under that strain. You can feel it. The first of these strains arises from the divergence   between the moral theories upon which the state reposes   and the social facts which those moral theories attempt to govern. Don't worry if you're not all taking this in. It's a thing to be read in a way. The second strain arises from the insecurity to which capitalism condemns the great mass of society, that's you and me everyone,   And the general character of anxiety and peril which it imposes upon all citizens   but in particular upon the majority   which consists under capitalism of dispossessed   free men.  

That's really what we are. We are dispossessed free men. He says of these two strains, it's impossible to say which is the gravest.   Either would be enough to destroy a social arrangement in which it was long present.   The 2 combined make that destruction   certain.   Absolutely certain. And there is no longer any doubt that capitalist society must transform itself into some other and more stable arrangement.   It is the object of these pages to discover what that stable arrangement will probably be. And that's really, I I I think, to some degree, this is the process that we're in right now.   We've talked, or you'll hear a lot in alternative information circles about neofeudalism.  

I guess you guys have all come across that recently   in your   informational sojourns. No doubt you've you've you've stumbled across that.   And neofeudalism   really is the the direction that the super capitalists want to take this in. We've mentioned here before,   that, you know, the ultimate aim of the capitalist class   is to build a communist state,   which is effectively   a servile state.   That's with us as   the servile people. And all of these technologies,   the subduing of intelligence,   the mass micromanagement   of every aspect of our lives, you know, which is really taking place, seems to me   to be the symptoms of that, the indicators of it, of this underlying   disease,   which is the only disease,   possible really for the governing class.  

Any comments, anyone?   Well, oppressive capitalism is a big problem, and it goes with political corruption. And that's kind of the sit situation we're in right now. We have people who think that,   you have to make lots of money in order to have a happy life, and it doesn't work that way. The more money you have, the more problems you get,   you know, you have to solve. So and there's only so much a person can do with   with money, and and there's only so many problems you can tackle as one person. So it's gonna take more than one person, and   you need to be able to to distribute that wisely, you know, all all of the goods in society.  

And that that's kind of Belloc's   things, the distributism   method, which is kind of a form of socialism   without calling it socialism because   Yeah. I think at his time, it was starting to become a negative term.   But   he he definitely   knew what it took, and and it takes a wise,   you know, wise judges in society and and, like, a priestly class of people to decide   what's best for the   society because not everybody's gonna have the intelligence. Not everybody's gonna have wisdom   to guide   justly.   Mhmm. So you have to have these outstanding people, and the more you can produce them, the better off society's gonna be. And and we're kind of in a state right now where we've just got people who just go along to get along, and you don't   you don't really think about things. You don't have to think. It's all done for you by a computer or by, you know, like, it's it's like going to this the the grocery store   and the person there doesn't know how to count change.  

And when they do try to count change, they they make huge mistakes and it's just terrible   to deal with and that's kind of the corruption of things. Yes. It becomes oppressive, especially when you deal with oppressive, especially when you deal with bankers that are like that and Yeah. Have to have an account in the bank in order to make a living and cash your wages in. Yeah. And to be fed the lie that you're a free man,   which   is part and parcel of the whole thing.   There's a I mean, there's a paragraph here that I've just spotted.   This is remember, this is Belloc writing in 1912, so a 112 years ago.  

Imagine, he says this is short. He says, imagine the dispossessed   that's a lot.   To be ideally   perfect cowards.   Well, I wouldn't say we're necessarily that, but   the possessors   to consider nothing whatsoever   except the buying of their labor in the cheapest market. And the system would break down from the death of children   and of outer works and of women.   You would not have a state in mere decline such as ours is. So he's writing this in 1912.   You would have a state manifestly and patently perishing.   I think we live.   We can see this that we do have a state, and I don't mean the government state. Let's just use that word as the condition of our living.  

The, we are patently perishing, and all these control systems have been coming in, you know, to effectively   handle us like cattle. I know these are things that we've touched on before, but we can't repeat them often enough because,   this is obviously sort of the wall of fear porn that we're facing every day   is to nudge us slowly but surely into that condition.   I've got a little clip here, which is not necessarily spot on, but is appropriate. You will have all heard of,   you may have all heard of Ed Griffin, g Ed Griffin.   Great guy, and he's still with us. I believe Edward Griffin's in his nineties now. And he's the author of The Creature from Jekyll Island, which is the place where the US Federal Reserve was created,   Lo, these many years ago. In fact,   just before   or around the time that Belloc wrote this book, actually,   you know. And we know that the Titanic is involved with that and this and that. But this is this is, Griffin just talking for a minute or so. Listen to this. Well, you asked the question in your book that,   Creature from Jekyll Island.  

What is the Federal Reserve, and what is your answer?   Well, what it is, it's a cartel.   It it's not a government agency. It has the appearance of it being a government agency, and they went to great lengths to give it that that facade.   It does have the power of government because congress voted to give the power of of enforcement to it. But in its essence, underneath it, it's a cartel.   It's nothing different than a banana cartel or an oil cartel or sugar cartel. It happens to be a banking cartel.   They got together.   They drew up the rules and regulations   for their own industry   to self regulate their own industry is what cartels do, and then they send it to congress and they took off the the label at the top that said banking cartel, may erase that, and they said Federal Reserve Act. Congress passed it into law and that's why we think it's a government agency. It's because if you don't obey the rules that they set down for their own industry, you go to prison. And so it looks like a government agency. But, basically, the answer to your question is it's a banking cartel.  

So it's a banking cartel. I should imagine that's not news to anybody here in the studio. Right, guys?   No. I Well Go ahead. That's right. Sorry. I didn't mean to talk over you, Patrick. Go ahead, Eric. What I was going to say is that I've just got my neighbor into understanding what usury is.   And she'd never actually heard that term ever before in her life.   And you go up to anybody in the street and you say usury,   they wouldn't understand what you're talking about.   Yet, usury   is destroying their lives.   That is what we're paying massive amounts of tax for. To pay off   a debt that doesn't exist.  

It's the biggest scam   known to humanity.   That is true.   There aren't that many people that know the definition of usury when you tell them, and the people that do have even even they have a,   the wrong definition of it. And and usually they'll say, well, it's too much   charging of interest on loans. And it's like, well, no. It's it's any charging of interest on loans.   Unless you're in a business together where you're you're cooperating and there's an expected return.   But,   yeah. Exactly.   Sorry. Sorry. Go go ahead about your neighbor. You know, I mean, the the prime minister of this country, I I asked   one of them. I said, do you know who the prime minister of this country is?  

Oh,   yes. Yes. I said, Kiersten. I said, no. It's the director of the Bank of England. That's the that's the real prime minister because the as you were saying, Paul, some weeks   ago, political parties,   just puppets.   That's nothing more than that. And in my view, they're puppets   to the usury scammers.   So once you round up as usury scammers, put them under arrest,   that's it.   Problem solved. Now when I got into numbers Listen to this. Is I thought that if I got to the top of the tree,   I would be able to implement those conservative policies. So you think once the prime minister Yeah. I as a little girl, I was thinking, if I get prime minister, I'll be like Churchill, change the country. That's not how it works. Exactly.   And what I discovered   was that I was not holding the levers.  

The levers were held   by the Bank of England, by the Office of Budget Responsibility.   They weren't held by the prime minister or the chancellor. And I think that's a massive Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. That's a massive problem. Hang on. You're saying the Central Bank, the Bank of England is one of the things that controls are you a conspiracy theory person?   You almost sound like, Gorham, you're you're MAGA. What what I'm saying, Steve,   is that if the Bank of England governor   can't be sacked   and the prime minister   can be sacked,   then then the Bank of England governor is gonna have more power than the prime minister. And that is a problem in a democracy.  

Because the fact is the left have succeeded in infiltrating our campuses.   So that was a pretty appropriate,   clip there, Eric, given what you just said.   Yeah. Yeah. That's it.   That's the delightful Liz Truss there being probably the most honest communication   from a prime minister that I'm aware of. I mean, I'm not aware of anything else that's as accurate   and is nudging and pointing in the direction where the main problem is. And, of course, the budget, the delightful budget that we're all about to endure, courtesy of   sir Keir, whatever,   will not acknowledge or deal with this at all,   like they never ever have in my entire lifetime,   at that level. And then, you know, like, I bang on. Until we deal with that,   we're gonna be cursed with everything else that comes with it.  

The only difference between well, to me, you've got 2 mafias in this world. A,   mafia that is the traditional one   and the government who are a mafia.   But the only difference is the government use   the best PR that our money can pay for,   so they look as if they are there,   being benevolent.   But all they're really doing is just throw a little bit of offer awful occasionally to us,   Very little   offer because our their job is to screw as much money out of us to pay off this non existent loan.   And then once that's once that's been paid off, then we'll get into more debt   because,   it's usually with a war or something like that. I mean, this country is bankrupt in 1933.  

That's why we came off the gold standard.   America went bankrupt in 1971,   and they put the dollar,   they pegged it with the Saudi Arabian   oil.   Now the thing is,   the the big big problem is people are kept in ignorance deliberately   because it's true what Henry Ford said. If people knew the truth about the banking industry, there'd be a revolution before tomorrow morning. He was spot on. Absolutely spot on. And that's the trouble. We're kept in ignorance. We're not told. Why isn't it when we go to school, why aren't we taught legalese   so we can speak to people in court?  

Why? Because if you go into a court, they wrap circles around you just using legalese.   Banking.   Why are we kept in ignorance? Surely, we should be taught all about usury at school. No. We're not. Why not? Why aren't people asking these questions? And that's my little rant for this evening.   Over to you, fellas.   I liked your rant. It was good.   Thank you. So so this Andrew okay. I'm looking here. Andrew Bailey   is the head the governor of the Bank of England.   Yeah. Is he that Canadian guy? Is he still the Canadian guy?   I think no. I think that I think I know who you're talking about, but I don't think that's who this is.  

Mark Carney is who you're thinking of.   Yeah. So he's gone. This is a new guy, is it? Yep. He's been brought in.   Lovely. Fantastic. Yep. Brilliant. And he was   he was schooled by gnomes at the London School of Economics.   Economics.   Yep.   Yeah. Well, I suppose that's the,   the gnomes of, of of Zurich, isn't it? Listen. We're at the we've just gone past the top of the hour by 4 minutes. This is old, Slack, Paul, at the helm as usual.   Someone I've got a song coming up for a little bit later, but we're gonna have one. No. Actually, we'll play this one now. This is an old terminal one.   We'll do the other one a little bit later now.  

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We were a little late there. I was a little late there with the top thing. That was the Mills Brothers,   and, rather a delightful song. I feel very nostalgic. The Mill Brothers' September song.   I'm sure some of you must have heard that before, probably when you were small and young and all that kind of stuff, and it was one of those songs that used to be on the radio all the time. So there we go.   Sorry? Oh. What was that? Oh. No. I just   yeah. Are you there, Patrick? Are you okay?   I'm good. Can you hear me? Yeah. I can hear you fine. Yeah. Cool. Anyway, welcome back to part 2. We got David in the room. David, are you there? Have you got your mic working?   Yeah. I think I've got my white mic working. Can you hear me alright, Paul? You're loud as a a buffalo. Yeah. You're fantastic. That's great.  

Welcome to the show, David. Yeah. Nice to hear from you.   Yeah. A fellow short wearer.   Are you? Because you're still and you're still in shorts, aren't you? So am I? I bloody well am. Yeah. I I have to get through to November 5th is always the goal. And if the weather's still good then, they'll we'll go. But the the target's always November 5th for me. No. You you gotta go through the whole winter.   Yes.   And then I'd also like to say,   hello to Eric because,   I'm Sir David of the, Dorset consulate   in,   So Excellent to speak to you, your your royal highness.   Well, I I no. You're you're the emperor, sir. You're the emperor of the I'm glad I've been promoted.  

Yeah. Oh, yes. Because, I mean, you've got, you've got consulates all over the world. And and the world does oh,   the world does only have one emperor at the moment, and that's the one in Japan, isn't it?   That's right. Yes. So we should have another one, shouldn't we? Yeah. Even with the same That's the point. Yes.   Yes. Because we gotta give ourselves bullshit titles, you see. That's that's the thing. And,   I I I really enjoy that. And,   you know, I mean, let's face it.   These people are only given these awards   because it's all back enders and, you know,   jobs for the boys, isn't it? So why don't we give ourselves   call ourselves titles? It's good for a laugh, ain't it? You know, why not? What was your title again, David? We've got consulates. Sir   David.  

Oh, sorry. Sorry about that. Sir David. So is is that is it just sir? Is that what you've been given? Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I I I think I've notionally been knighted by Eric.   Have you? Did you have to pay for that? Was there a fee involved?   Well, we've got to keep quiet about that, haven't we, Eric? Yeah. That's right. But,   well, actually, if you want to found out, go to your local council. They know all about brown envelopes and backhanders. So, you know, just ask them how it's done.   Well, I planning parliament. Eric, I I mean, I do think a list of of titles that are purchasable,   from the Fockem Hall,   consulate would be a jolly good wheeze. Maybe you could all buy titles and things. So sir David, I thought you might have something else, you know, ambassadors of this, that, and the other, but sir David's fine to start off with. I mean, it's a bit high to go in straight at the sir level. Is there what do you get before you're oh, is I guess you could always make people dukes, couldn't you? Is that a bit higher than being a sir? Probably, isn't it? No. No. A a juke is higher.  

Is it? Yeah. No. A a sir is just a knight. So the lowest   the lowest actual title   is baron.   And then you go up from baron, you go up to,   like, an earl and a duke.   And and then, obviously, a duke is a is normally reserved for the royals.   Right.   Did you so did you want to be a sir, or did did did it just come through the mail? You were just told that you were 1. I I was just told, and I wouldn't want to argue with Eric, could I?   No. I don't think so.   Well, let's face it. We called consulate ports in,   Siam.   Where else have we got one? We got one in America and, of course, Bogner. So there we go. So that's it. We're all around. Yeah. A bit like the Trotters trading, you know. Was it Parish, New York, and Peckham? You know?   Brilliant. Yeah. But, hey, Paul.  

Yeah. Who's that? So what what are you, Patrick? I think you're you you've got a Ponzi title. I'm viceroy of the Zulu outpost of Northwestern Wisconsin.   That's it. Zulu outpost. Viceroy. Where does that come? There weren't any have there been Zulus in Wisconsin? It's not the sort of I don't think so. Surely. Surely not. There is a zoo there. Import them.   No. There's a zoo there that hasn't got a low. Definitely.   So you go there. You get all That's a bit thin.   Excuse me. Have you got somewhere off? I've sprayed the penny. Oh, sir. Ferrero. Sorry. Sorry. We don't have one. You know? So Jotley Burrig, an accent.   What'd you say? It's brilliant. I don't know what to say.  

That's good. Good.   Eric?   Yeah?   Eric, can you check your price list and tell me how many   fuck bulbs it would cost   to adopt   the the moniker Baron Bomb Burst? Because I always loved that name ever since   came out. Well, I'll tell you what we do.   Yeah. I Download the fault bobs.   Download the fault bobs, you see, from the Okay. Website,   and then give them out to people. So that's all I ask.   So you got the title. Do that. Yeah. Yeah. It's easy. So someone So that could be b cubed.   Yeah. So we'll have we'll have to put these titles down. I I I think they'll make the list of them. So, you know, if you could send them in on, say, Telegram,   and I'll make a list of them and people would say, oh, I think I'll be that and I'll be that. We give outposts all over the place.  

You're bringing,   fucking culture, aren't you?   You are.   So on your notes, Eric, I guess you could have wordage that's along the lines of these notes are redeemable   against any title that you're able to afford.   Something like that. Yeah. Is that right? With a price chart on the back of the note. Something like that. Yeah? It's the only country in the world that if you're short of you, Bob, you just do what the government does. You just print them off. Mhmm. You just download them off the Internet. There we go.   Because as I said earlier, it's funny when you give somebody a Fotmob,   it it looks like an ordinary note. I mean, you'd have to well, I'll have to just do a dollar one. I'm sorry about that, folks. We gotta do a dollar one as well. And   you you I'd say to me, would you like some money?  

Oh, sorry. They look at you. I I I do it all very serious. What would I I give money away, you see? I'm loaded. Oh, okay. And I kept this wallet out. I give that's what I'm getting out. I think blimey. I think it really it really is giving me some money. So what would you like? Hide hide oh, yeah. A lot a lot a lot a lot while it's worth a lot. Give it to her. Look at it. And you let look the expression on their face. It's a sort of like as if they've just been touched up. So,   you know?   Oh, I want Paul to mint some, golden fuck bobs for us. That'd be cool. Oh, yeah. We could that would be great. Experience with that. We could use the sunshine mint in Idaho. You'd have to you'd have to be in charge of the overseas treasury, Patrick, to get it organized, but we could probably do that. Yeah. We could. I was just thinking the Bank of Fockham,   of course, is Bof, b o f. But then people would refer to it as the fucking bank, wouldn't they? They probably would, you know. They would.  

Well, this is a family show, so we're not gonna say that.   Okay? Well, that's what they would call it over here. I can just see that coming up a mile off. Yeah.   Well, it's a Fockem official filings.   Yeah.   Fockem,   space   and official finance, you see.   Nothing rude there at all. Why why do people laugh? I just don't understand.   You've been taking far too many double entendre tablets today, Eric. It's just nonstop.   Far too many of them. Well, no. No. No. Wouldn't that be f   No. You just walked right into it. You   really covered your dental, isn't it? You're not supposed to say that.  

We're all supposed to allude to it.   I quite like that. It's quite silly, really.   Well, that's where you But another f.   No. It's Fockem.   See?   We we're never rude. We're extremely polite in Fockem. Let's face it. We're spreading   Fockem civilization,   and etiquette throughout the world. That's what we're doing.   Do you have, do you have any images of the notes ever? Have you got any sort of graphics, JPEGs, or whatever of the notes? Yeah? Go go on go on to Fockem Hall,   Fockem Hall Radio dot com Mhmm. And you can download them. Alright. And,   we'll grab some maybe as an as an as a graphic for one of the upcoming shows. You know, when we talk about money, which we never do here. So when we do a special about banking and usury Please do. And stuff, we'll do it. Yeah.  

So we we got a Blair one. We got one with Cameron, one with Charley Boy. Mhmm.   And,   I'm having to do one. I'm gonna have to do one for a dollar.   Who am I gonna put? Because I've put picture of Blair on. I said,   ex prime minister of of Great Britain.   So,   what do you think,   Paul or Patrick? What should I have on the dollar note? Should I have,   what clown should I have?   Trump,   which is actually,   British slang for breaking wind. Do you know that? Seriously, in 19 fifties, people would say, I've just had a Trump.   Yeah.  

I used to say in the 19 seventies, you know, and get reprimanded by my father for doing for saying such a thing. It it reminds me of the Monty Python butt trumpets   for some reason.   You get you get a little cartoons.   Let me ask you, did you have Monty Python in America? Or have you Oh, of course. Yeah.   What's his face from here in Minnesota?   Terry Gilliam. Terry Gilliam. Yeah. Yeah. The guy that did all the art. Is he? Yeah. I didn't know he's from Minnesota.   Yeah. He's been the salt and yeah. Anybody else famous from Minnesota?   Wasn't John noted Well, they make spam here.  

I don't know. Big big thing in Spain. Monty, Spain.   Spam was a big thing. Austin Austin, Minnesota.   Wow. Yes. And they made a breakthrough in cooking the ham inside the tin that it's sold in. And that was a that was an actual,   breakthrough in technology.   So In in ham technology.   Right. That's right. Yes.   Well, I've I've mentioned here before, my my name's far more sober than this with regards to banking. But I I've I've talked about forming the Bank of Britain,   which is awfully tedious. It's not as exciting.   I It's sort of interesting. So sorry to just interrupt. No. Go on. Jump in. I I thought that, it's your your little acronyms that you've got going, like the c of e being the Church of England, you also have the b of e, the Bank of England. Yep. So which is more powerful, the b of e or the c of e?  

Well, the,   the b yeah. They're both   BC, aren't they? I don't know. CB, BD, CB, B, CD, B, and all that kind of stuff. I'm trying to find They would never let us use the Bank of England. We'd get chinned for that. Weird.   We'd get chinned for that. But the Bank of Britain,   something like the Bank of Britain, you just make it I mean, I've mentioned it here before, you know, had had the time to sort of get it going. It's not to actually run a true account system and then people will be, what's the point of it then? Well, the point of it is to get across this point about usury for starters.   But maybe the Bank of Fockham is the best way going. But I mean, we're just gonna have to put it with lots of vulgar language for years to come. At your bills. I'm looking at your bills just to print out and then close close slob   with Stalin above it. That's funny.  

I like it. What about we could have notes called British ultimate money.   So you call it British ultimate money. I think that would be quite a good good one,   considering,   Yes. What we have in in power, you know. I have a question. Quite suitable. Yeah. Yes. Question from Patrick in Wisconsin. You have a similar   yeah. Do you have a similar enforcement agency for your treasury?   For No. Oh, you don't? Like, as as the   US Secret Service,   not only protects the president,   but they go after the counterfeiters.   Hang on. We got we got,   we got, survivalist Steve and the boys, but you sent him around, couldn't we? Because The survivalist Steve, he comes on. I don't think anybody argue with him.  

So did did you know you you Brits, did you know that the secret service that protect the president as his personal bodyguard are also in charge of going after counterfeiters of the American currency?   Like, they're the main they're the main agency under the US Treasury Department for for going after yes.   So they have kind of a dual role   of protecting the president and going after counterfeiters. And I think they're really bad at both their jobs as we've seen with what's going on with Trump   and his numerous assassination attempts that,   Especially the woman that couldn't put   what about the woman that couldn't put the gun back in her holster? That that's what made me laugh. And surely, if they're highly trained, they could do it without even thinking. Just, boom, straight in. I mean, John Wayne wouldn't have had any problems, would he? No. I mean, Glenn Hodes would. He doesn't even have to Over here, we've had very dry organizations   that, I think, to some degree, perform that   function, Patrick. We used to have the DTI.  

I think that's been disbanded now. That was the Department of Trade and Industry,   and they were often   charged with,   bringing businesses down that they thought were running,   you know, close to sailing too close to the wind for their like. But, of course, there's never any education comes out of this. It's just all drama and nonsense. Nobody actually really understands anything even after these events have taken place.   For for your prime minister and king, do they have a particular bodyguard like the Swiss Guard guards the pope? You know, do they have something like that? What? The prime minister?   No? Yeah. They're similar. How about the king?  

I think they're all hidden. Yeah. The king's obviously got a bodyguard detail or somewhere, but you don't have to see them. Particular name for it, though? They don't they don't call it secret service or secret They may do. And they're all a bit more I don't know. It's less overt over here. I was gonna say the Beefeaters used to be the ones, but they're a little bit a bit, you know, long in the tooth, those guys.   They they must have something.   Mhmm. It's the Privy Council. Isn't it Privy Council that really looks after tells the king what to do, and they're connected into the city of London,   and the mayor is although the mayor really the mayor of the city is pretty much a sort of   totemic place as well. A bit like Klaus Schwab. He's kind of sort of a figurehead, but it's not where the real power lies.  

But the Privy Council, they have power,   I understand certainly,   in terms of but I you know, everybody says, well, it's the royal family. Well, what power do they have? In the end, it's the power to murder your opponents, isn't it? That seems to be what history shows. Who's got the best gang of poisoners   and intimidators?   Because that's definitely what's going on or has been and no doubt still is, I would have thought.   I think Edward the 7th is was Edward the 7th? Wasn't he in the Edwardian times? Or was it the 8th? I think it's 7th, wasn't it? Please correct me if I'm wrong. Well, he was Edward. He would have been Edwardian, wouldn't it, if he was king? Yeah. Yeah. But there's several of them, you see. But apparently, he got bumped off cause he got a bit suspicious of parliament   trying to sort of, get a bit more power than it should be.  

This was about 1911,   1910, around about that time. So you so you say he was bumped off? And I know he was on his deathbed. He was he was quite ill.   Yeah. But they're only he was bumped off. How did he how was he how was he taken out?   Well, there are ways and means, but which can be hidden because what they say and what they do are 2 different things.   But, you know that,   not only him,   but, the king before Queen Elizabeth the 2, the doctor finished him off.   He's on his deathbed, so he didn't wanna give him any more pain, so he finished him off.   But with Edward, I think it was Edward the 7th,   he was looking into the situation   where the parliament was getting more and more and more power,   and the royals were getting less and less power. And he started asking questions, and, of course, that's the last thing they want. So I heard that, I've I've I've read this book by,   Catholic priest, father Leonard Feeney, called London is a Place. And he said on his deathbed that the king king Edward the 7th in the in 1911 or so,   there was a rule that only the archbishop of Canterbury could visit him on his deathbed, and it was actually a Catholic priest, the Jesuit, that visited him last on his deathbed. Mhmm. That that's interesting that that,   you think he was bumped off Yes. Like that. Yeah.  

There's,   because the same I was talking to John Hamer, you know, the, author John Hamer. Mhmm. And he's talking about the possibility that, allegedly,   I believe,   that Churchill,   possibly bumped off his own mother via a doctor   who was known as a on a doctor day. Now now this reminds me sorry. Go ahead. Go ahead. No. No. That that's all already got to say. Okay. Well, I want I wanted to say that, you have something going on in your parliament right now or in your House of Commons where they're trying to pass a bill for, euthanasia   to to legalize it and make it commonplace.  

And, I think that's gonna be devastating to you   as a culture. It's terrifying, but I've actually got a good idea.   I think   that politicians   and parliament should take the lead. We could whip have a whip round with the aid of a suitable tree and a lump of rope. We could help them on their way, and then we'll abolish the law. What about that? I think that's a practice. There you go. There you go. We could carry out that a lot of lives that way. That certainly would. And you think Bill Gates would you could throw him in as well. So, you know, let him come along as well. Because this is why have you heard of my non existent   imaginary charity called Tree Branch of Hope? So you look at a tree branch, I saw an English oak, and you say,   nice place to hang a politician, isn't it? Lovely.  

See?   So,   you don't have to give any fault. Bob, you just   look at it and use your subconscious and think, yes. And it's surprising how powerful your subconscious can be. You you kinda invoke this this image in my mind of of, Noah getting the olive branch from the dove,   that there's hope that the flood's going to end.   And it also reminds me of the thought I had, yesterday or the today. It was it was kind of interesting that, I was thinking about that story about Jesus in the temple taking the whip and driving the money changers out.   And Yep. The money changers were taking   animals to sacrifice. In particular,   they would they would sell doves, which doves are another type of pigeon,   which are, you know, like a honing pigeon, like the Rothschilds used to to let everybody know that Napoleon lost Waterloo to give send messages   and and and that sort of thing. And I think that's kind of a profound thought that that,   they were   exchanging,   you know, the selling that that privilege,   so to speak. And Jesus thought it right to take a whip and drive them out. So   these people try to,   you know,   squash   communication   between other people that they can perceive as their enemy   and   take take advantage of the poor that way. And I think of all the media, the misleading and lying media that we have   and how that kind of was represented by that image of it, of the money changers   having control of it. And it's just   nothing changes. There's nothing new under the sun.  

How do you think we could   get it straight? Is it possible to get it straight? I've I've felt that the one of the reasons, I mean, you know, it wouldn't be for the want of others trying and temporarily   succeeding   on a national level. As we've mentioned here before, you know,   Libya succeeded   temporarily,   although it's quite long in a way, but like we've mentioned here before, that was kind of a distributist   direction they were going in. The actual resources of the nation   were being placed first in the hands of the people of of the nation, the nationals, who actually were Libyans.   Yeah. There was a there was a form of justice. You had judges, and you had priests, religious   people that were rightly guiding the society and and placing   those those goods Mhmm. Into the most hands of the of the poor. Yeah. And that's what we need because we don't want people poor. We want them to be at least you know, if not rich, we want people to have a means of just supporting themselves. You you don't have to be rich in a society   to to have a good society going.  

And Is it? Too often   Mhmm. It's people taking advantage of those poor people.   Well, you know those flurries of greed   that we have all had as we've grown up and may still come upon you from time to time?   That yearning for some I mean, actually, I'm trying to think of now. I actually need a new oven, but I don't sort of lie awake at night all giddy and excited about it, and, oh, I can't wait to get a new oven. But, you know, when one is growing up, coming out of your teenage years, and you're looking in your pockets, and there's never much there,   And you're thinking, I could do with a bit more cash, you know, because I've got to impress the girls, or I do need the sports car, or whatever nonsense it may be. It's probably very important nonsense, of course, it is when you're young. It's very important.  

But that   kind   of challenge that every individual has of mastering their own sort   of lusts for material things, if you wanna if I wanna be slightly dramatic about it, it seems to me the banking system harnesses all of that.   The we're kind it it comes back upon us. In other words, the problem is not necessarily that you haven't got honest people who want it in a decent way. It's just that you've always got people who are going through the process,   as it were,   of   removing their lust for stuff out of their life.   And it's that stuff that comes back and binds us in. I mean, we you're talking about the law. So we're used to the idea or we know of the idea of the corrupt judge,   of the corrupt lawyer. What is it that's corrupted them?  

Money, apparently.   They are corrupted by the fact that they need more money. Why? I guess,   I mean, this could take forever to break down. It's probably not worth it, but   you've got a situation where their   reputation,   the way that they are viewed is defined or determined within the circles they move by the amount of money they've got or how big their house is. This is really basic stuff.   But that kind of   drive that people have   is what's used against us because it's in all the people I live with, including me from time to time, you know. To get to the completely sort of benign state of I will give away all my earthly possessions and all this, that's really an unrealistic   sort of proposition, it seems to me, given that our overall condition, not just now but historically, you know, people want stuff.  

It the point   a question to ask is, when is when have you got enough stuff?   Is there a point? It's as if the habit of acquiring more stuff is not lost by certain people. And the whole sort of definition of their life is, I've got to keep acquiring more stuff. We're gonna hear it in 2 weeks time.   You're gonna hear about economic growth. We've all been hearing about this our entire lives. It's the great panacea.   Well, if we do this, we will boost economic growth.   Why bother?   It doesn't make any substantive it doesn't change anything.   It's always been about economic growth my entire life and no doubt well before that.  

And the presence of interest on loans   as a kind of engineering drives   that process. You have to, you know, mentioned before, it's a bit like being drug addicts.   Each year, you have to have more drug to get the same hit. Well, isn't money exactly the same thing? Because it is permanently in a state of being devalued,   you need more money next year to buy the same amount of stuff you got this year. So everybody's driven, you know, by this kind of   whip. This this Labor.   Labor is the source of all value.   So really, we're talking about labor of men and Yeah. The work that they do. And how you how you value that is is determines what,   the value of labor is, the money that represents that value.  

And there again is distribute distribution, like who who gets to decide,   who gets what.   I think I think of, you know, we're talking about the Federal Reserve and and the Bank of England and that sort of thing.   I've been looking into the history of, Charles Lindbergh senior and   his role in in going against the Federal Reserve Act. He was going against this group down in Chicago called the Commerce Club of Chicago,   and they were formed by groups of merchants that ran things, you know, shipping, but they also ran casinos.   And I think a lot of the time we get into this casino type mentality that it's just, oh, you you're this guy is rich, so he's lucky.  

You know, he's just fortunate. It's the luck of the draw or the gods looking favorably upon him or the stars   aligning properly, that sort of thing. When   really, it has nothing to do with that and those sorts of superstitions   end up ruling our our consciences   and society. I mean, just look at COVID and the superstition that was involved with that.   I mean, the more the less we're involved with the superstitious part of things and and   and ignore the actual   science,   of what we see around us and the truth of the matter, because the truth will set you free,   the the, you know, the less I mean, it will set people of a certain caliber free.  

I don't think it would have done me much good when I was 14. I wasn't really looking for it. I was too busy doing other things. You know what it's like when you're young and growing up. It's not that I'm a guinea. But it's this, how do you keep the bad eggs out? Can you? Are we even supposed to? Is it supposed to just be this   really idiotic   counterproductive   struggle, which is really what it is? I mean, we've got things like stock markets, foreign exchange markets,   futures, options,   contracts for different CFDs, and all sorts of other malarkey, which is basically casino stuff.   It's it's what it is. So capitalism produces a casino class   and, you know, they're very effective Right. At drawing off the purchasing power of people.  

It's like I mentioned, you know,   anybody here listening probably, if you're actually to write down what you need, what would make you   stable and happy? It isn't masses of money.   It's the absence of bills that is and by extending that, the demands placed upon you   that take up your time. You've got to do something for somebody else, for a service that you never even received, like pay tax   to the government.   So I mean it's morphed into this I mean, actually it must have done this a long time ago.   The rulers, those that perceive themselves to be rulers, you know, those that are part of ponerology,   the systemic application of evil in the political world,   they can't conceive of a world without them. And they've done everything in their power and they've got way more power than we have in terms of their coercive power   to ensure that they've created a world that keeps them there. And yet, you know, we're saying, look,   this is a bit prehistoric   and naff, frankly.  

And, we don't want your power, but we don't think you should have it either, at which point You gotta wrestle the gun away from the the criminal.   But how? What But how? That's the it would come as a hazard. Yes. We're in a very hazardous situation.   I mean, if you let's suppose we form the Bank of Fockham. Right? Let's suppose you just form it, and everybody gets an account, but you don't do any commercial   exchanges. In other words, it's a bank in name only. It's just a flag upon which to hang hang an information   enterprise, for want of a more highfalutin phrase. Right? We're saying, look, we formed this thing because   the vast majority of you here in England, America, wherever you they are, you haven't a clue about this stuff. And you're not to be blamed because you've never been taught it. In fact, it's never even been brought up. You probably don't think it's even a topic that you could discuss.  

I was I was talking to some young ladies the other day, who were both engineers actually,   in their late twenties.   And I just I always ask people, and it was just nice to talk to someone, I guess, the next generation down or whatever. I don't know how these things work.   And they were great. They're educated. They've been to university and their stuff. They didn't have a clue about this.   They just don't have a clue. Their labor's good. They're doing things. 1 of them just completed sort of managing the building of a railway bridge. It was pretty it was not bad actually, Eric, architecturally. I said, oh, that's pretty good. She said, really? I said, yeah. I said, what's all this brick? She said, well, we had to make it conform to the architectural designs of the bridge that we were connecting to. I said, and that's from when? She said, oh, about 1910. I said, that's why it looks good. I don't know whether that went down well. Right. But it's absolutely why it looked good because they had to match the brick brick work up. I said, if you'd been given free rein, I'm sorry to say this, but I I imagine it'd be terrible. Then I said, you know, the modern architecture is just atrocious. She said, what do you mean? And she was a bit slightly hurt. I said, all these boxy buildings. She said, you don't like those? I said, nobody likes them. I said I was told by the way. They're dispiriting. They're designed to be crap. I was quite surprised. To make you fart. Yeah. They're they're designed.   But if that's all you've known, if you have been but when were they born? 1990 or something like that, these people, or 1995.  

I can't believe this. Right? Because they were in their late twenties, 27, 28, something like that. They would have only known crap buildings in the main, wouldn't they? I'm thinking, good grief. You you just phase this stuff out, and everybody gets accustomed   to what they they grew up with. But if we were to form a bank, just as how would we go about educate people? And what would be the I mean, I I spend far too much time thinking about this pointlessly, going around in circles in my head. You know, are you supposed to just gain power and enforce it? Is is that And I'm looking at a bit here in the servile state. Let me just read this again, alright? This is just another bit. He says, if I desire, this is right where we're at he says, if I desire to substitute a number of small owners,   I. E. The super capitalists,   for a few large ones in some particular enterprise,   how shall I set to work? I got it the wrong way around. Right? In other words, how are we gonna distribute the ownership? And he says, I might boldly confiscate   and redistribute   at a blow,   but by what process should I choose the new owners?  

Even supposing that there was some machinery whereby   the justice of the new distribution could be assured,   how could I avoid the enormous and innumerable separate acts of injustice   that would attach to general redistributions?   It's a real in other words,   we've become acclimatized to a behavior pattern,   that is totally inappropriate   given the technological advances. It's so out of date. It's ridiculous. So we've we've we've handled a lot of material challenges   and but we the one of human organization   is just intransigent. It's prehistoric.   It's based on coercion and all these other ludicrously   crappy things that that Forgiveness.  

Forgiveness of debts. That's that's a policy we need to to establish for cormos is how do we forgive debts that, you know, for people that ask for forgiveness of debts?   Because that's   that's key to this whole thing. Yeah. Just like Michael Hudson wrote a book called forgive them their debts. Yes. I believe. But also, we couldn't so I'm sorry, Patrick. Terribly sorry. Carry on. Please go. No. No. Please. You you was talking before you chimed in. Oh, it's getting very polite around here, isn't it? Isn't it polite? I was gonna very I was gonna say, I was talking to Nathan the other day about this, and we're saying   things can't change overnight. It would take several generations as, Yuri Bezbanov said. We we   we've got to change a   in civilization's past where we had a jubilee year. Every 50 years, their people's debts would be forgiven, and you would then move on to,   you know, a new   a new slate, a clean slate   with people who who've taken out loans from you and, from the government.  

I think we I think we really do need to look into this whole idea of forgiving debts because   we think of all the loans   at your local bank   where people are paying a mortgage, trying to earn a living to pay for their house, to   bring their children up in in the best way that they can,   especially fam you know, families and   just people in general that could use that debt forgiveness, that are going to jobs, and that would could use a break from it all.   So when we use yeah. I agree with you. I mean, you know, the year of the jubilee,   the idea, the forgiveness of debts,   every 50 years   is what's required.  

Of course, it then when you resume whatever it is you're gonna resume, it has to be resumed without the presence of interest bearing loans being present in the system.   So and when we use the word we,   maybe   the idea of something like the Bank of Britain   or the fucking bank or whatever we're gonna call it, its purpose is to amass that we.   It's to gather huge numbers together,   like 10,000,000 in England or 5,000,000,   which would be bigger than any political party by miles.   And and therefore, that requires a system of,   media communication and education in the simplest of terms.  

And that, of course, that process of communication,   he said, negatively will be interfered with by the incumbents who are not stupid and have a sixth sense   about when something is building up   that potentially down the line could remove them from   the dubious position that they hold. They don't want that. They want to retain everything, and it's literally the case that they will kill you   if they sense at all that they're gonna lose that. So is there a way of actually building up an information   campaign?   I mean, suppose you went to an ad agency,   which is there's always a good example. You go to an ad agency, you give them the briefing. Hi. What what do you want us to do? Yeah. We've got we've saved up all those 5,000,000 people. They've all put a £100,000,000. We've got £500,000,000   budget for advertising. Alright. Okay. What do you want to do? We wanna we want the banking system as it currently exists   to be shut down   and transformed into this. We want an honest banking system   where everybody owns the bank, where loans are issued like this without interest,   where it's effectively one bank, and banking is turned into a non profit making enterprise. The purpose of which is simply to furnish sufficient purchasing power into society, into our nation, so that we can all buy and sell the stuff that we make,   you know, and keep everybody,   a a much larger proportion of people happy. There'll always be a small percentage that won't go along with anything, no matter what you come up with. I think that's always just the case.  

And you know, the forgiveness of debts would be it. Now we can't pull in the people from the city of London. Said, do you wanna have a meeting at a coffee shop? We've got some ideas for you. They're way better than the crap you're pushing. The only drawback for you is that you won't control 1,000,000,000,000 of pounds anymore and dictate world politics. And they're gonna go, no. We're not really interested in that. And if you start doing that, we're gonna send our blokes out. They're gonna chop your balls off. I mean, that that's really why I'm just Listen listen though, Paul. We can who can we talk to? You know, I I'm thinking that people like, that Lord Farmer that, is Candace Owens'   father-in-law.  

Yeah. These people   obviously are seeing what's going on. They know what's going on, and they're not they're not I think they're approachable, but you just have to be able to get in that circle of people where you can talk to them. We could sell talk to Send Eric. Talk to peep yeah. We send Eric. Eric.   Yeah. I mean, I think they they would enjoy my flashulence jokes. And, and, you know They would say, well, well, we've never heard jokes like this before. We've lived a very sheltered life.   That that Great, thank you so much. Permission to speak.   Permission to speak granted.  

Okay. Thanks, Patrick. Yeah. Yeah. Well, it says in scripture, the wicked will be destroyed by their own wickedness.   And if you if you actually look at what the, bankers did,   they convinced the kings to give up their   control of the finance to the bankers.   And now the king the now the bankers are giving up the control of the finance to the   the the geeks.   So they might actually undermine themselves.   You mean you mean the people doing cryptocurrencies   and that sort of thing?   Well well, no. The fact that they're driving everything digital   means that, essentially,   I doubt if many of the bankers actually know one end of a piece of code from another.  

Right. Right. So it's it's these computer geeks that end up ruling everything.   Yeah. Exactly. The it does say in the bible that the geeks shall inherit the earth, doesn't it? I agree. There there there are these geeks, these programmers that build the these program these software programs where it's just like they have the power, but they're just too humble.   They don't know what to do with it. They don't realize they have that power. Well, they're beguiled by their coding abilities, which are considerable, I guess. Although many of those are now under threat from the development of AI in terms of,   you know,   jobbing sort of coding. A lot of that's just gonna go. Well, there are When you hear when you hear the discussion, you'll have heard this before. Right? So   with regards to them, and this is this this comes up in so many fields, but let's just this one. Because of AI being the sort of, you know, the topic du jour at the moment, And, they say, well, all these coders who all earn a lot of money, they're all gonna be sacked. Then what do we do with them? This whole process of supposed   progress,   it never makes any difference because as it turfs people out of work, creates an ever enlarged underclass. People who are probably, you know, the middle class which is being destroyed.  

And the middle class, whatever people may want to think of the bourgeoisie,   you know, as old Karl referred to them. They're the ones that generally, historically, have done most of the actual wealth creation,   business building, business management,   and industry.   They're the tax base on which,   the parasitical governments feed off of.   The whole and if everybody goes, well, I've got to have my bit and I've got to have my bit. It's that's what's got to go out the window.   There's some kind of a vision. It's not really a vision. It's to get back to this simplicity   that   the problem started   a long, long time ago. But when you productize money, when you say it's a thing, that's when you're stuffed   because   it's the buying and selling of this thing. In other words, the guy that sold all the tickets is the one that ends up owning the theater show. You go, what are you doing? It's ridiculous. There's these actors who put it on. Yeah. And it is the middle man, it's the it's the middle point that's acting like a spigot to control everything on all sides. And because everybody's dependent on having some pounds or dollars next month to buy their bread,   You're controllable through this.  

So the process would be, how do you set up a process   that would either gradually or swiftly swiftly would be my preferred way, but that would be very messy, I expect.   Stop that. And we can't do it, can we? Or it's not possible to do anything like this if the people that you want to   invite in,   the people that would really benefit from it, are literally clueless about how it works now, how it ought to work, and the benefits that would accrue to them. Well, that's the current condition of the marketplace. You'd be putting ideas out to people,   in that way. And I've mentioned it as a simple thing, trying to boil it down. When you get born, you don't get a birth certificate.  

You get a share in your national bank. Nation being a tribe of people of the same race with a shared and received history, culture, and language. You'd get a share in it. You go, this is the peoples. Everybody here in your nation, even though they're not close to you, they are in fact extended cousins. All of them.   To a greater or lesser degree. And we've decided to have a law under the laws of God, which is about honest weights and measures.   Now we have a dishonest money system because they're not honest weights and measures, and and it's a manipulative administrative system. Of course, the tech that's come in   is enabling them to go on steroids with all this kind of stuff. And because they never want to lose their power, the only solution they put to is progress. We're gonna have more AI and more tech stuff, and everything's got to be measured. And that's going to cause economic growth. And I'm basically saying, we don't want economic growth. What's the point of that? You're just saying we're gonna have more of the crap that we've already got. Why would we want it?  

So it's the education process. It's not just the content necessarily of what we would say. Many of the things most of the things that we say here are true. We're not the only people saying them. We play Ed Griffin said the truth. These things are all true.   Belloc knew this a 112 years ago and other people before him knew it as well going all the way back. Silvio Gesell knew it in Argentina in the 1800.   Major Douglas knew it. Gaddafi knew it. Hitler knew it. These people know   that the right way to do a thing for a nation is that you make the resources of the nation the shared wealth.   First port of call is the actual people themselves.  

This rules out.   You have to have a system that rules out the growth, the arising of a partition creditor class. And the main thing that's fueled that   has been usury   and the arrival of private banks. There shouldn't be private banks. There should be just a bank of the nation. Look, I I'm quite prepared to be creative. I'm just stating it in an adamant way.   But surely, you know, it's like if we went to an island   and we were trying to establish,   the production and the distribution of goods and services amongst ourselves, and we were gonna have a thing called money to,   encourage that because there will be people that will work harder than others. They just will. That's fine. Yeah. And,   there'll be people that will have more visions and come up with smarter ideas faster than everybody else. And that's a great contribution back into everybody else. So let's not knock. It really is. But when it gets to the when it goes through the money portal, it gets out of whack. It's like a disease gets put into it. It's like cancer of the blood. Usury is literally like a cancer in the system, and it's produced exactly the same results. Cancer   sucks all the energy out of the out of the cells surrounding it and becomes more and more of a lump. Well, that's exactly what central banking does. That's what major cities are. They're just a they're just sucking in energy, and the land wilts. And then they say, oh, you know, all this crap about the environment, all this other stuff that they're making up. So that they can keep on playing this game that is robbing us of wealth. It's producing money for them   but there's less wealth   because it's all It's all tuned up. For the poor. We need homes for the poor. Mhmm. And that's and that's just   just it. Defining who who gets to determine, you know, where those that money goes.  

And, we do we do we need we need that type of thing where people work to their strengths. We have people who   who know what to do. And when you're on that desert island, you have people who are good at a particular thing, and it's rightly dividing the work to them so that they they make a light light work of what they they're given because someone who knows a trade   is gonna be the person who does it, and it's easier for them to do it than for somebody that doesn't know the trade. Yep. So there again, you need right judgment, and and that brings happiness. Yeah. But something else, I think that, for example, what we was talking about about that, electric vegetables.   Now the bowler hat farmer,   he's got this farm shop there where local people, they go to the farm shop instead of going to the supermarket.  

Yeah. Now   you could start something off. It wouldn't work in a city. It'd have to be in the countryside,   where we have that, you know, their own system.   And other people think, well, hang on. That's a good idea. We could do this. We could do that. And but the most important thing is to make people aware   that the mafia, I e, the government, are gonna use their PR   to condemn and destroy   anybody   that goes against them.   So the the key is really educating people. Knowing   the old saying, Chinese saying, keep your friends close, keep your enemies closer. Understanding   and educating children and all that, the tricks, the nasty tricks that the mafia governments get up to.  

And,   really, I think their power just be trickled away very, very slowly   or by very, very quickly. Who knows? Because   we want people to realize   that what's the point of working your guts out to pay a small fortune to pay off this usury scam   when you can do what you want to do and enjoy doing, like, for example,   what the Bola Hat Farmer's doing? There's   a huge scope for employment there.   You know, local people would I'm sure there'd be people that would really enjoy   growing vegetables. There's some people like serving a chef. And like you said We're doing what we cut out for. You take inventory of it and then you communicate that that to every other Yeah. Other person. You know, hey, this guy's got, you know, however many tomatoes or eggs or whatever it is. Chickens,   pigs,   cows, You know? Yeah. That's where we were talking before about local radio   would be something that would come in where you could just go get on the radio. Everybody's listening. It's prime time. Everybody's got their attention glued to it. And you say, okay. We've got this person down the street   here. He's got this going on. He's got raw milk, you know. Give him a call. Here's his number. Here's his address.  

You know, if they wanna give out that information. And then just Have minute men. Yeah. Sorry. I didn't mean to cut across you there, but have Minutemen. What I mean by Minutemen,   when we know that the government,   the police are no longer there for the average person in the street. The police are there to protect   the mafia government.   So if they turn up, we do it peacefully and politely. We call on the minute men, and we outnumber them and say, please get off our area, please. Yeah. Gently. We ask you to get away, and you think that you've got, say,   20 police officers,   but they're surrounded by a 150 people Right. They're gonna they're gonna leg it pretty quick, aren't they?  

Yes.   So that that I mean, we have to be smart and wise about these things and not and not get let get overwhelmed by this thought that there's just so overpowering   and and and I think I mean, it's not overpowering because I think we understand a great deal about it. The bit   that, historically, appears to be a great challenge for anyone   is how to implement a kind of process   that finally,   utterly wipes out this disease called central banking, because it's a disease.   It's a it's   a a condition   that ensures you can't build a civilized life for the vast majority of people. You can't do it. It's not possible to do it when you've got that institution present in your national affairs   under the way it's it's constructed. You can't do it. Look at the history. How did they do it before? Who who was the They did it with force. Power. They did it Local who? They did it by becoming the heads of nations.  

And, of course, we're going to carry on this after the break, by the way, because I I think it's really key. They did it, obviously, by being in charge of their nations   and having free reign for a period of time until it became obvious to the central banking scammers   that there was a real problem here for them. That if that if that situation were allowed to flourish and be copied by other nations,   it would become clear to everybody in each of the nations that the presence of a central banking system was completely surplus to the requirements of national happiness and prosperity. You don't need it.   But, of course, they have controlled all the media to convince everybody that we do, you know, because world peace   and all that crap. I mean, ever since the United Nations come out, there'd been more warfare on the planet. We're here to make all the nations peaceful.  

Isn't it it's actually a total. You can't unite nations.   You just can't do it.   They are uniquely and inherently distinct. That's why they're called a nation. They don't need uniting.   They just need to operate in a particular way.   Anyway, we've come to the end of our slot here with, at WBN. You've been listening to,   Paul English live here we're here every Thursday on WBN 324   from 8 PM to 10 PM in the UK, 3 PM to 5 PM US Eastern.   I've been joined by   Paul, Patrick and Eric and we'll be carrying on after the end of this show over on Rumble. If you want to carry on listening and, typing, if you want to join the chat, go to paulenglishlive.com,   click the Rumble link, hop on in. There's lots of chat going on which none of us are paying too much attention to, but we ought to. And we'll be carrying on after this break talking about banking and how we put it to them and how we get the sort of bank that we absolutely need if we're gonna have any chance of building that peaceful prosperous world that you know is possible, but there are a few pesky people in the way of making it happen. Till then, have a cracking week and we'll see those of you that hang around in about 15, 20 seconds.  

And we are clear. Here we are still at Rumble.   So,   and where were we? We were talking about the challenge of, you know, how did these people in the past actually get to grips with it? And as we've mentioned here before, and it's worth, again, mentioning Stephen Mitford Goodson's book about the history of central banking.   It's full of characters,   leading power figures in nations   who did implement systems   for the benefit of their people, and all of them come to a bad end. And it's because the central bank is able to coerce the other nations that it's got under its thrall   to do   the dirty work.  

World War 2 is a case in point. There are many other influences going on. But I think the banking thing,   the economic miracle of Germany,   which is why it's definitely worth studying that if people can get past the swastika, many people of course can't because of the conditioning,   it's definitely worth studying. Because I've mentioned here before, I'm not learning this, that it's a primary reason for why,   that hellish sort of conflict got unleashed, because the Germans   were doing things for the benefit   of Germans. What a weird and quaint idea. As if the Bank of England would actually do something for the benefit   of the English.  

Now there's a thought.   Because if we had honourable people in those positions, they would be saying the right sorts of things   and doing the right sorts of things.   And on that note, just as a little aside here, we've got the what date is this budget that's coming up at the end of the month over here? Is it the 30th? 30th. Yeah.   That okay. So that's a Wednesday.   So the next day, essentially, they've got it just before Halloween, remember? Just check this just check this out. See if it's right. Yeah. I think it is. Right. So,   UK   October.  

I think it is.   30th. Yes. Wednesday 30th. Yeah. That's Cool.   So on on October 31st, which is what? 2 weeks from today,   we can do a oh, god. That would be exhausting, couldn't it? We could do a post budget analysis.   How thrilling. But what I will be doing is,   you know, a few months ago, I did a I I may be meaning to do more. I'm just I've got to get more time. I I did a little, sort of,   piece which was,   a broadcast on behalf of the political party that does not exist,   but that you may wish did.   Well,   that party that does not exist, there will be   a counter budget delivered on October 31st.  

And I've been, I don't know how long it's going to last. I'll try and keep it under 15 minutes because I think these things need to be. But I'm going to do it because,   there is a budget that everybody here wants to hear   and I'm gonna try and get as close to it as I can. There's a budget. There's just ideas and things that are not in public   media   that just need to be expressed simply and directly.   Like, the bank should be your servant. This is currently not the case. I'm gonna work on this but this These are very important points.   And to try and find a sort   of an advertising agency that would get hold of this and go, well, we know how to do that. This is what you do. Right? You have to build it up like this. And who's the target market? Well, in many cases, it needs to be teenagers and people in their twenties because they're the ones just setting off on this journey. Their entire life is currently mapped out as a debt slave.  

These are people A 2 You know? Yeah. Yeah. Sorry. But but also,   sorry for jot me in there, but, the other thing is the education system. I mean, I saw something today,   which absolutely was horrific, and I won't go into it on the air, but it's what they're teaching   young   infants.   Mhmm. Infants. Sex education for infants.   I just couldn't believe my eyes when I saw what these infants,   I I I I I've got exact when I say infants, I think they were,   what would they call it? About 7 or 8 years old, I think it is.   They're not really infants as such. Juniors, I think the word is. Yeah. But they're having to fill it in intimate details about   sex.  

I mean, that comes later.   And   the the teachers that are pushing this,   well, once upon a time, our ancestors would have dragged them out and lynched them. They wouldn't understood that. They just wouldn't understood it. How comes we stay we're sitting back in the standing? We should be completely arrogant about it. Get out. That's the fact of the matter.   Or they're put put on trial. What on earth are you doing teaching juniors and infants this stuff for? Mhmm. I mean, it's it's and what are those children gonna grow up like?   I dread to think. Well, it's it's an inter of course, you've you've moved into an area that's extremely   disgusting, revolting, and all that kind of stuff.  

Yeah. But it's where   if we start if we if you are able to sort of get some momentum   behind a communications campaign just think of it as an ad campaign. It's the best way to think of it because this is all about communication and getting points across simply and effectively.   That campaign let's suppose we come up with a way of beginning, and it starts to motor.   Right? So there's there's 3 of us here. There's 60 in Rumble. There's whoever listening on the other channels. There were 1,000 just listening or whatever on WBN, and we are able to get that going.   As soon as it starts to get going, the people that are invested in the filth that you've just talked about,   they'll be coming for us   because they know that this is part of that process   of restoring nationhood.  

And let's for every single thing   that we talk about that we dislike, the fear porn, all of this stuff is absolutely going on, but you can't immerse yourself in it because you'll get sucked down like into a swamp. We gotta stand above that and and point the finger back at where we've come from to restore the goodness.   They're our enemy.   And there's no avoiding this. There's no avoiding that there is, right at the root of it, a conflict. Some people have gone so far down the route of   being adversaries to God's law. That is satans. That is satans. That is satanic. That's what it means. An adversary of the law. We're never going to get them back.   And we can't and they're going to attack us.  

That's what they're going to do. We know this because history shows it.   Right? History shows it. All they've got in their life is their stupid, demented, unexamined ideology, which they've completely,   you know,   allowed their soul to be consumed by. It's got no intelligence or very little behind it other than it pays them at the moment. Innocence. They're attacking the the most vulnerable people who are typically women and children in the society.   Absolutely right. Making them seem especially women, you know, you think about this. They're they're they're going against the idea of even being, there being differences in in the sexes   Mhmm. Between a man and a woman. And that just any violence then that is created specifically toward women   is negated by the fact that they have this this other agenda where they're trying to diminish that. Yep. The differences   between the gender the the the the sexes.  

Well, I There are only 2 sexes, male and female.   NHS, apparently. It's now I've seen it in several areas.   It says that a doctor,   when they speak to a male,   they've gotta ask them whether they're pregnant   up to the age of 30.   Oh, so the answer to that, of course, is yes, Eric. You say yes.   The answer to that is I'm leaving this because I'm not I'm I'm not I'm not insane. Goodbye and slam the door and walk out. That's that response. No. My response would be yes and not for the first time.   I you you you amplify it back at them.   You go, yeah. I'm pregnant all the time, actually.  

Well, see, this confusion is gonna be bad because you like like the euthanasia bills that are being proposed. Uh-huh.   That's gonna that's gonna cause very   bad problems. Like like, the cardinal the Catholic card of England and Wales was saying,   recently that, Wednesday, you're you're going for that you know, the House of Commons was pushing forward this bill. It's only a matter of time before this thing that's voluntary becomes mandatory.   And you don't know the best thing to do is not even go down that path   to begin with, because it's just gonna open up a whole can of worms. You're gonna have people that you know, this whole idea that they project onto the evil Nazis of the euthanasia policy of the the people who aren't worth living and, you know, worth   the tax money going to support or whatever it is. Those are the most vulnerable people that are gonna be affected by this. And Yep. And you need we need to do something about it. Well, look at the live Liverpool path   by whatever they call it.  

I think unofficially,   euthanasia is being used because I feel sure   that,   a girl that I once knew and my parents were all bumped off by the NHS.   All of them. Wow. They were finished off, and there's no doubt in my mind about that.   There there is this unofficial euthanasia policy.   And the more I look at the so called health service,   yes, they'll   do granny's bunions for her and do some good things. They've gotta show a little bit of awful, as they say,   but I think it's there to destroy people. I really do believe that,   and I think it's done on under under handedly.  

And they're showing their intentions in the media. Yes. Yes.   Yes. And this has gone on for a long time. My grandfather   was finished off as well. I'm positive it it happens.   I won't go into all the details. Well, I have got the details. And there's a lot of people noticing some very strange things going off going on. Like their grandparents   dying suddenly and all things like that when they go into hospital. They go in, but they don't come out.   And   I I could go into onto it, but I won't go into it because it's obviously   over the time. But,   what I witnessed with my own eyes when my father was,   it was obvious to me they were bumping the   bumping the,   geriatrics off.  

Yeah. Well, it's a system that's like a dinosaur. It's it's running around on inertia is that system, a momentum. It's like a train wreck   all the time.   And the main thing, it's not just to the NHS. It's everywhere.   People are not examining the condition of their own lives or what they're doing. You just know it's really the case. Smartphones,   dumb people. It's absolutely the case.   So It's a religion. Conflict they should. They don't. People don't respond like they used to at all. There's no vigor in people.   They're just it's like being mollycoddled   to death.  

That's what it is. It's being mollycoddled to death. We're gonna make it nice. You're gonna be very comfortable. Yeah. But I'm gonna die 5 years before I need to. Oh, don't worry. It'd be lovely though. You'd be right comfy.   That's what's being sold. You're gonna be really comfy   when you die. And, of course, the this is another aspect. This is one of the things that's worth looking at that Jack Crews video   about. Because   I still feel that the the root   the root problem is the bank and he brings it up. And the way he he only touches on it lightly, but it really is at the root of it. Why are they wanting to wipe us out?   Because we're creditors.  

All the people right now that are in the middle class, you're all due a pension. Right?   I've I never give a crap about it. And you I the pension's been plundered years ago.   There's never any there's nothing there. It's just a big bloody stupid story, you know. They're just buggering about with it. But if you are owed all this money,   and they don't know how to pay it, because apparently the states is supposedly $32,000,000,000,000   in debt. By the way, if you paid it off at something like $1,000,000   a minute, it'd take you like 500 years to pay it off for some stupid amount. Right? All of this stuff is complete nonsense. You just forgive all that stuff. But it's warped.   It's warped everybody's focus and what their goals are. They're going, oh, we've got a problem. And the problem that they describe is not the problem. It's the problem as they see it from an economic monetary perspective. Well, we've got to retain our power and we need all this and we can't pay that off. There's no problem at all. If you go outside and look at things, there's loads of stuff.  

The problem is to do with this structure of how do we share   in a just way the stuff,   so that people are not harmed.   If they, you know, they're saying, oh now, there were what was it? What was the story 15, 20 years? There's too many people on the earth. Now they're saying, well Europeans are not replacing themselves so every single thing they say is a complete lie. It's a total lie. It's complete horseshit. The problem is that people believe it because they're not fed the right I mean, we're doing it better. We're definitely doing it better by providing more truth   but that's the issue. They're killing you off   because they can't pay you   and they have all become accustomed. I think Cruz calls it cheap money, but I would say it's zero cost money. They just produce it to fund whatever they wanna do because they're gonna sort our problems out by more technology. Whereas we're going, no, you're not.  

You're not gonna do that. Your your habits, your behavior patterns are such that it's just gonna get worse.   That's all It's becoming, as Belloc said, more unstable.   You can feel it because it can't do anything else. Because they're going, more. It's all mine. We want it all. I want all this stuff. They don't want money for purchasing power. They want it so that you don't have it.   That's what it's all about. There's got to be a distinction between us and them.   They couldn't care less.   I'm gonna use another word other than usury, and that's the word treason.   Now hopefully, one day, the traitors will be have their day in court.  

And I question, what do you do with these traitors?   Because   I personally   am against   I sound a bit liberal here, passionately against   the death sentence.   I actually believe that you should treat them like you would treat a crocodile.   Now, it has a right to live on Earth, but we don't have a crocodile in our house because it's programmed to eat us. So no. You keep them away from us. And then we have an island which we send them to, not like Devil's Island, has infrastructure on it, but they go there forever.   And that's it. They you just keep them away from us, these psychopaths. Mhmm. I mean, people like Blair and and and and and and Starm.  

These people are psychopaths.   You just say, well, we're sorry. You know, you've got a right to live, but you go on that island. Keep her away. And we make sure that The thing is, Eric, you see, is how do we acquire here here's the dangerous thing.   How do we acquire the power to bring that about? And in the process of acquiring it, who's gonna get perverted by it on this side? Seriously,   that's what happens.   You know, there are knock on effects. I I I much prefer what you're saying. I like the comic book view because at least it reminds you that there might be a way through, but it's just it's never ever been like that ever. When you dig into any sort of situation,   the more you dig into it, the more your view of it changes. Whatever it is, it just can't help but do that. You get closer and closer to the heart of a thing, and you suddenly realize that your view when you were viewing it from 50 miles is not the same as when you're viewing it from 3 feet away.  

And it's you see something very, very different.   Coming up with ideas about what to do with them, I I I think they should all the facilities that they've built, they should occupy those.   And,   all the crap TV that they've made, they should become the subject of it. So you could do, you know, these real life things where you interview them as a warning   to future ones that this is not gonna go well for you.   If we think warnings would work. I don't know. But the main thing is not to even focus on them. It's to get them into a position where they can't keep buggering at what we want. And we don't actually we don't want the Earth because it's not ours. It's not theirs either. You can't acquire it. It's just insane the way that you think, isn't it? And even me expressing that stupid. Who cares whether I think they're insane or not? It's irrelevant. It's stopping it. It's stopping them. But   the big problem is you've been conditioned from school to look for a leader. That is the problem. And this is why the NHS is like a cult. People worship it like a cult. Oh, it's marvelous. You know, my granny went in. She got her bunions done. Oh, great, then. Yes.  

But   you try and tell them the truth. These people, they don't want to know.   And it's the same with government. They worship the government. Oh, well, I'm voting for old,   what's his name?   He's like is is he English equivalent of Trump? He's friends with Trump.   He was in UKIP at one time. I can't think of his name.   But people worship him   even though he's a puppet. Nothing more than a puppet. Who? Farage?   Farage. Yeah. Sorry. I forgot. Farage. You mean Farage in his garage? Farage.   Mhmm. Farage is another puppet.   And it they're just playing one off against the other. That's all they've Have you heard the Upton Sinclair quote quote?  

Upton Sinclair, he he said that it's difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it. Yes. And that's the situation we're in with politicians   especially in the Well, it's the situation with everybody.   There's actually fundamentally no their motivations   to be effective in life and acquire money are no different from us peasants   because the system   has made us all that way. And the ones with more brains, or aptitude, or cunning, or guile, whatever qualities you want to ascribe to them, are selected and rise to the top to control the rest of the crew. Us.   And   it's good that we understand this up to the points that we do, but we're surrounded by people that, like I said, don't even know that this topic exists.  

So is it possible   to put together a an advertising stroke communications campaign   that would over that would get people to engage with this at the emotional ignition level.   I'm really concerned that it's not because   I see so many people who are not, in my view, alive. These like these people I meet in their twenties,   they're incredibly placid   in comparison to what I grew up with. People were, like,   just full of much more energy   and freedom of expression because those were the things they hadn't put all these things in place. But the technology,   the addiction to the phone, I'm not going to play all of that, but is a good symbol for this. That people have become to identify with their online life more than a real one. You take if we were to shut the phone system down for a day, there'd be a lot of suicides.  

A lot.   People go mad. They won't be able to cope with it. I didn't get my Facebook things or whatever it is. I don't have a life because their life has become what's in that screen.   They know exactly. So it's smart technology is producing   profoundly stupid people.   Like when I was talking to these people,   they said, do you read a lot? These girls, I said, yeah. I do.   They said, oh, I don't read at all. And I looked at them and I went, you need to change that. I said, I don't care what it is. You've got to get in the habit of reading. I said, because it's the only way you can drive your own education.   How can how can you drive your You need knowledge and experience in a quick manner, and your books are the best way to do that. Yeah. But the desire   the desire's not there. Why is there no desire there? Because everything's being placated, the mollycoddling   effect.  

So, you know, they found if they send us off to war, we kill each other but then it's a problem when we come back because you got a bunch of men who've just been through hell and you can't tell them what to do because there's been a hell. You didn't go. You're a politician or a general behind the lines, right, talking crap. That's right. These guys that come back go, I'll cut your balls off and they will. So you have to treat and they go, we don't want this anymore. So the technology enabled them to stupefy people gradually like, you know, boiling a frog. TV's played its role. No2Waste TV's been absolutely awesome from their point of view in in producing a soporific   unquestioning populace.  

And so we are weirdos.   We're weirdos. All you people on Rumble, you're weirdo. We are strange,   really, because we're still we're still connected into the inquiring frame of mind, which is what made this notion great, if you think it ever was great. But it was in parts. And and, you know, that's why when you read Belloc sorry, I'm talking so much. But when you read Belloc and you look at the way I know the language is sometimes a bit difficult for people. But if you get into it, it's phenomenal because you'll start to think with the precise clarity and the wording that he does or any author. If you go back and read anything written in the 1800,   Dickens can be overly elaborate at times, I accept. But some of the Russian stuff,   there's such a clarity of thinking behind the narratives that they put together. They evoke stuff very quickly and clearly in your mind, in your heart.  

Today, it's all piffle.   It's a lot of piffle. It's like this when we're talking about music, you know, these sorts of AI music. I know I've played a bit here. It's quite fun but let's it's not what's that to do with anything?   Oh, we've got all this electronic wizardry. I don't want that. I want to see you playing a guitar, hitting bum notes, looking slightly embarrassed, and covering up for it. That's fun. I wanna be with human beings, not interested in machines.   You know, it's like this thing with, what's his name,   Musk and these bloody stupid robots. And they're all going, yay. They're all talking to me going, oh my giddy, these people are just beyond help.  

You know, someone should be just saying, that's crap that is, Elon. Why do you do that for us? It's rubbish. We don't need that. It's rubbish.   I know he's gonna be able to do all this stuff. You know, not for me, mate. I got $30,000.   I won't bloody have it anyway. It's stupid.   Oh, no. It can tell you all this stuff. No. It's a machine.   I'm not interested. Nothing is ever gonna be interesting ever again with this predictive crap around us. It's boring.   They're all bores, a lot of them. But I'm optimistic   because I think something's gonna happen   that the powers that be and we didn't expect. And what that is,   they're stopping farmers from farming. Mhmm.  

Every communist,   regime or whatever you wanna call it   has led to starvation.   Everyone   Mhmm. Has been mass starvation   from Stalin through to   it, what's his name? Pol Pot with the year 0. And by the way, the jolly heretic, a chap called, Professor Edward Dutton, has done a fantastic documentary,   called Year 0 about Tony Blair, because he runs that Tony Blair took this country back to year 0, and he he did.   But   You've gone. Think ahead, Danny. Oh, sorry. You just dropped out.   Yeah. Yes. I'm still there. You are now. Yeah. You just dropped out for a second. Tony Blair.   I mean, Tony Blair, and then you dropped out.  

Oh, right. Okay. What I was gonna say is he took us back to year 0. I wonder if the the boys are listening in. Any fellas, you know, if they're listening in. But what I'm gonna say is   we're only was it 3 meals? Is it away from a revolution?   People start to get hungry. Yes. We'll have plenty of junk food around,   but people   get very hungry. Well, so that something that happens. I know. So but you're   if we go back to the earlier part of the show talking about electric vegetables,   this is really what we've got to be talking. It's why it is important all this stuff. Because as a as a people,   we we are more formidable and difficult to deal with when we're under our own steam,   when we are deciding what we wanna do. And that's all we want. I don't mind if I die as long as I die under my own decisions. It's when you die dying under somebody else. It's gonna happen. We're all we're not all for this world forever.  

So it's what you do with your time and the fact that somebody else is saying, well, I'm gonna control all the decisions that you make. Uh-uh. No. We don't want that. Right? I didn't invite you to it. I don't have a contract with you. Where did I sign up for this? Who the hell are you anyway? And they go, well, I I'm the guy that's got a lot more power than you. I can wreck your life. Okay. I better be quiet for a bit. So that's kind of what we're we're talking around. And, you know, if we go back to say the peasant's revolt, and I mentioned this before,   the situation,   the form of life was very very different.  

All the men wielded axes and plows and things.   Leathery, strong, tough men who had a hard life. And when push came to shove, they went, to hell with this. Literally, I'll go to hell. I've had enough. That's that. It's not like that now. We've been mollycoddled into us kind of everybody lives in a mattress, sort of wrapped up in a duvet. Oh, it's nice and snug in it. Yeah. But you're not fully alive. And so the that whole framework of questioning, the culture of vigor,   it's going and it's not because we don't want it. It's not because we want it to go. It's because it's been artificially created around us using this technology.   But we've got a lot of positive things to say and I keep coming back to the if it if we're able to muster people,   there'll be a whole slew of additional problems to come   along with it. But if the foundation and the root is right,   then it's it might have a chance. I don't know. You know, it just might have a chance. And it's better than sitting around going, oh, they're doing this. Oh, they're doing that. I tried it. You know what I mean? Yeah.  

But the thing is, we're in a similar situation. After the First World War, people don't realize that this country   was literally on the brink of a revolution.   Literally.   And there was riots up and down the country because   after the first world war, the men were promised   when they went to fight a land fit for heroes, a land of milk and honey, and they came back to worse poverty than they left.   And   what happened is the,   I know this for a fact, the Secret Services   infiltrated   the Militant Groups   and trashed the leaders.   And then in 1921,   the British Legion was formed.  

Mhmm. And it was very clever.   They told people what they wanted to hear. It was a pacifist organization.   And then it gradually   turned round   to a more,   political organization,   until it got to what I believe, allegedly,   this is my own view,   that   the British Legion was there to project an image that's best of veterans, that's best for the government.   And mass it's all very patriotic. Yes.   But   patriotic towards an agenda   and a government which is rotten. And that's basically it.   Yeah.   Now I think that if you look back to the 19 twenties 19 thirties, what happened?   Because I was brought up amongst first world war veterans. I used to hear them   talking.  

As a child, I was very, very young. I didn't quite know what they were talking about.   But I do realize   that that's what that   was what would happen if we try to start something. So we gotta be even more cunning and learn by from the past   and outflank them. And we can do it. We have got to outflank them. That come back from these wars   that end up becoming the most anti militant people out there and the most outspoken people out there   that see what they they were goaded into and and   lied   given given false promises of of success, and then they turn against it in the end. But then by that time, they're obscure and then nobody pays attention to them. That's the problem.   That's it. Yeah, well, I I look at, for instance, in the Catholic church, we had father Charles Coughlin   on the radio in the twenties, in the thirties   speaking out, and and he started out as a supporter of theater or not Theodore Roosevelt, but, Franklin Roosevelt.  

And and then as he saw that he was being used as a pawn to get people to go into war   for World War 2, he he started speaking out against what they were doing and and started calling out them and and the culprits that were behind it to the point where they took away his license to broadcast. Right? This became a big thing because radio was a new technology. And then all of a sudden, you get these authoritative sounding   organizations coming in and saying, we're the licensing authority, and we decide that you're not gonna be the you know, you're not gonna be able to broadcast anymore.   So they got rid of him, and then they put into place   the the next spokesman for the Catholic church to get people amped up to go to war, and that was   bishop Fulton Sheen.  

I don't know if you've heard of Fulton Sheen, but you've probably heard of you've heard of Martin Sheen and and his son, Charlie Sheen,   who they took on that name kind of as a homage to him. He was   a radio personality   during World War 2,   getting the Catholics   all amped up to go to war against the Germans, you know, brothers against brothers, this whole idea of, you know, the brother war.   And   he later on lived to regret what he did because they then tried to use him for the Vietnam War, the Korean War, and then the Vietnam War. And he started by the time the Vietnam War came, he was completely anti war, but it was almost too late because he was obscure.   Mhmm.  

And that's what happens.   So we need to be able to convince these people that are in the prime   of their lives   to actually speak out for the truth and and,   you know, not be lured by these   the the the worldly treasures that most people are lured by.   Yep.   Well, I I mean, I think the great work effort or part of   it is the   is administratively   connecting, possibly,   many of the sort of groups and websites that exist. There's a lot of Telegram groups. I would like to have the time to inform them about this show every week. I don't have the time. There's probably 1,000 that I need to be sending out the things to. We've got a lot of websites out there that some are doing fantastic work. There's a lot of people on Substack now has become the sort of site to go to for,   more serious journalism and alternative views. But the thing that's gonna be pulled together on some very simple ideas,   the what what I feel with the alternative information community of which I am a part, of which we're all been a part,   is that it's kind of reached its sell by date some time back, in that what's occurred is that, certainly over the Covid, there's become an awful lot of it's drawn an awful lot of people in, which is brilliant.  

Now what's occurred is that there's still a kind of   too much over examination,   I think,   or too much time spent   looking at what the other side are doing. What is the point of relaying all this information? I don't get it now. We've got that there's a problem.   I think it's kind of   an avoidance.   It's avoiding this sort of conversation. What are we gonna do and when are we gonna do it?   Because we have to do something. We have to act. And I think even acting on the vegetables is good. I think acting on the raw milk is good. Anything   that starts to connect you up with people   in the way that we know we should, so that we relearn the habits again or start to build them up as behavioral patterns is a good thing. There's something much more serious, of course, down the line that we have to deal with. We have to acknowledge it straight off, which is that we are in a war not because we wanted one but because the other side won't listen to us.  

Therefore, they've created this conflict that is unresolvable through communication with them anyway.   So what's the point? You know, I know we all know that and we'll mention this stuff again. I'm not saying we can't talk about it. It'd be stupid. But what's the point of us we know that Keir Starmer is unwell,   literally. It's not an insult. He's unwell.   We know he's probably not in charge of anything much. There's no point getting our knickers in the twist about it. He's been dropped in by the same culprits in the background as all the other ones were that were dropped in.   How do we create? Can we? Do we? Will we?  

Create the countervailing   force that goes back in the direction that we know we need to go in to create healthy living for the vast majority of people. There has to be a charming way of doing it. There has to be a way, of course, at certain meetings where there is ferocity.   There will be. That needs to people need to know that teeth and fangs can be bared because it's in there. And if you get this   lovey dovey thing going on too much, you see this is where I sort of get really irritated with all this for humanity   stuff. You can't do anything with that. I don't operate. No one operates at the level of humanity. It's just nondescript.  

I operate at the level of my people   as does everybody else, I hope, and that's got that's why the world was better.   Of course, they would say, like the United Nations would say, oh, no. No. No. When you're all nations, you were all at war with one another. Well, of course, we were because you that your antecedents of the United Nations were causing it, the bankers.   All the wars have been caused by, brought about by these bankers.   And the United Nations is a creation of the banking community.   And he says, we're gonna unite the nations. We go, we're not interested in that. It's just communism. It's crap.   More of your crap ideas based on you wanting to run everything. A job that was never advertised and which God's been doing really well without you. But, of course, they have no conviction in God. They are deluded enough to think that they are the gods and we must all, you know, kiss what's left of their bony little bottoms. I mean, it's just it's sad and stupid and I'm wasting my breath even talking about them because I'd be much better off in a pub selling people raw milk. I'm serious. It would be better use of time and building something up. So   that's I keep coming back to this. I just think more and more description of the problem, and this show will, of course, touch on it from time as as we've done tonight.  

It's got to be replaced. We need to be doing 2 thirds constructive stuff and maybe a third of this. It's kind of in the it's in the wrong direction, so maybe a third of this. It's kind of in the it's in the wrong directions at the moment. We've talked about Agree. Like, you know, I want a Volvo. I want an old Volvo with manual doors, manual window winders, and I want it converted to run on   water.   Now that that's this they're gonna lock us up for that. I've talked about that cooker, the Kinetic 7 cooker. It basically,   it, it splits water into hydro hydrogen and oxygen.  

And 2 liters   will run the thing solid for 2 weeks. That's all the heating problems for the old people solved.   So we've solved,   technically   and materialistically,   we can solve every problem in front of us apart from the one problem,   which is those people that pose as problem solvers. The political class who are, of course,   blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. So we have to find a way of being able to solve our problems whilst keeping them at bay, arms length,   subdued,   disempowered,   miserable,   self destructive, all the things they do to us, we have to find a way of them becoming   depressed. We have to make them depressed.  

They need to be led to be led to believe that you're not gonna achieve any of this.   Right? You're a joke. Spot right on. You're not gonna achieve any of it. You know?   You're spot on. They're they're porting up. But the other thing that irritates me is when you look online   and you see these bozos   saying right, write to your local MP about this. You might as well write to Tinker Bell to Ferri. You probably get better response Yeah. To Tinker Bell to Ferri. I mean, what's what what is this? I saw somebody the other day, I won't say who he is, talking about finance.   And he said, we've got to write wherever you are up and down the country, write to your local MP.  

Your local MP is a part of the mafia.   Don't   best mess with them. What's the point? You're not gonna get a response. I mean, I actually asked a local MP what is his party prepared to do about usury, and he was off my step quicker than a ground with a rocket up his bum.   And he said don't be,   anti semolina.   What's that gonna do about being anti Semolina? Strength strength in numbers, and and the thing of it is is we need to do like the American first party did here in America with Charles Lindbergh. They kept in a list of of sympathizers,   people who supported the party, And that that list of names and numbers is important   to to keeping track so that we can reach people in an effective manner. It's it's just like the radio was when it first came out. You're able to enter into people's homes. It's like going into their homes. There's a priest in the fifties. His name is Father Feeney. He used to say that they're having a television in your living room   in your home is like having a Jew in your living room. Yep. It's it's it's a matter of   reaching people. So if you we had   radio stations,   local stations all over the place,   where it's you and I and everyone else that thinks like us   out there talking to the ether, but you're actually talking to your neighbor and getting getting consensus that way rather than going to these elected, selected leaders that are put in their place because they donated enough to the local lodge or synagogue or wherever they're,   you know, they're accomplishing their   their their goals. Spot right   on. Spot on, Patrick. Absolutely spot on. Yeah. You're right. You you you hit the nail on the head there. Well, there's fear. The fear of doing that because there's a fear of exposure and being located   and and losing that anonymity, which kind of gives you a certain, like, invisible cloak of power like Plato talked about in the Republic,   where, you know, you you lose that and you kinda have to do that in order to reach people. You have to get in that vulnerable position, and that that takes a certain fearlessness that people   might not have if they don't have the right faith or understand you know, the understanding   of what's going on. And that's where we need to to broadcast the truth as much as possible because that's where the power is at. It is. Is it exposing the wickedness?  

It is. And it's exposing the truth. It is. I I mean, it's a communications   challenge,   a considerable one. It's not just   the content or knowing   these key historical events, which illustrate the points very well, which they do.   You need those in your back pocket.   It's finding a way to talk to different types of audiences.   How long? How frequently? How do you reach them? How do you alert people that you're on at these times? That it's the whole sort of machinery of communication.   It's massive.   You know, people say, like with advertising agencies, they get paid huge I used to. I remember when I was looking at it all in the eighties, you know, rather a glamorous industry, really.   Most of it, of course, was print advertising and TV advertising was going then, and blah blah blah blah blah. They get paid huge sums of money. And the creatives would get the I I'm the creative, you know, they would get paid a lot. But the media department is literally spending goble loads of money   plotting out where these ads should appear. Oh, that's rather dull. It's absolutely key, isn't it? Media Or you don't wanna run it here because this is not your audience. It's all that kind of stuff. That's why I mentioned an ad agency early on because if you if we're looking at people that have learned to communicate   ideas simply and effectively,   and engage people so that they respond and act on them, I e buy the product or show an interest in it. Those people know this stuff really really well.  

And it's a considerable skill and you could say, well it's the skill of the liar. Not necessarily.   It's I'm gonna, you know, everybody is always banging on that,   that, you know, that that quote about the Germans about lying all the time.   That's not what they said. The whole quote is basically, the best propaganda is always the truth.   It always is. And advertising when it works well,   it does not feel like advertising. You go, oh, yeah. I really was. I mean, of course, the Internet has transformed all this with tracking and everything. You keep seeing stuff now because you sort of looked at a pair of shoes. For the next 3 days, you get nothing but bloody shoe adverts. You know all that kind of stuff. Right? Well, it is appropriate.   Yeah. It is. We got to learn our enemy. Yeah. But we've got to learn from the past, and we've got to learn how our enemy infiltrates.  

That's what we've got to learn. Not being neurotic about it Mhmm. But look at it logically.   And, I mean, why they infiltrated after 1st World War.   I don't think they have to infiltrate now.   All they have to do is do what GB News did, which was they did very care very cleverly. They told people what they wanna hear, and then gradually,   very slowly,   nudged.   Started using nudge.   Nudge technology. Example. They do. They use nudging. I got, I got something through the local wildlife   people, where I live, and it's named after 2 counties. I won't give their name. And   about all 30, 40 years ago, it was a this little wildlife   group   were,   just a couple of people,   and they protested   against,   a huge pharmaceutical company   that was going to build   around here.  

And,   the pharmaceutical company,   then finance them.   So then what do they do? So all the all the objection   faded away. Yeah. I got through the letterbox the other day. Judith Beautifully   that's right. Beautifully printed.   We've gotta do a, we got a look at wildlife,   and their species of birds   are in danger due   to climate change.   Mhmm. And once you read through, you saw the keywords,   sustainable   climate change, climate change, sustainable.   They've been infiltrated by the commies.   They've been taken over. Another group that's been taken over   is the, Peace Pledge Union.  

Peace Pledge Union was not communist. It was, pacifist organization.   They've been taken over by the same people.   All these groups have been taken over, infiltrated   very carefully,   and it's what they do, as I say, they initially tell people what they wanna hear, and then they gradually nudge it. So this is what we got to learn, the tactics of our enemy,   know what they're going to do, and get there before they do.   And I think we've got to use counter subversion against them. They use subversion against us. We counter their subversion.   You know? And there's ways and means you can do it by just literally outwitting them.  

I I Yeah. I think you're absolutely right. I mean, I I feel as though those things would come   somewhere down the line once you'd know that you'd need to do it once it got to a certain size.   It's finding the way of making it grow to a certain size.   We've never had more   tools available to us to communicate to people,   And in a way, maybe the decentralization   of all of our communications is a good thing,   because   one senses more than that. You you know, you look at Telegram I accept, by the way, that Telegram is probably another blah blah blah blah blah. Who cares? We've got to use the stuff that's there. And if you say, oh, yeah. You're just giving them all this power. There's not we're giving ourselves power as well at the same time. We have to do this.   So, I mean, it's a bit like we're playing in their ballpark, but how do we create something like that?  

It's a bit tricky, isn't it? But they they could be. I feel there will be something that come something that's no one's anticipate can occur,   but it's finding some way of   you want to see everybody that's involved with a thing wants to see that thing   gain more agreement because you are gaining more agreement   and this is a thing that we require whether this is a good or a bad thing. I don't know, but I know that I I want it too. You know, you put on a show you want millions of people listening. Maybe like Alex Jones. You know, he gets millions of people listening. Great. It's not really my message   that I want to listen to. He for he's he's he's performing a role. He's a nudger, to use your phrase, Eric. He's a nudger. He's nudged people into a certain space, and, apparently, it's all gonna happen. And it's been like that for 20 years, and nothing's gonna it's just nonsense. Right?  

But but but with him, he's, who's the Nazis, you know? Yeah. Dog poo on the street. Yeah. The Nazis had this plan where people would slip on the dog poo. That's what it's all about, you know? He's obsessed that anything bad   was to do with the Nazis. He's got this sort of strange mental   sex. And I've been rolling up laughing, listening to him because he's just bolder some of the stuff he comes out with. You mean to tell me it's not the Nazis? I thought it was always the Nazis. Damn. The doggy dosh.   Yeah. This dog poo. You know what I mean? People were slipping in it. They're just playing to do the dog poo plan, you know. No. It's I'm sure he makes up half of it. But the fact   is is he's very clever. It's a very clever way that that they do it. Well, he's very well protected.  

He's an asset. Right? He's an asset. So I know he's coming to certain trouble. They can do with him what they like, and he's gotta dodge around and everything. But it's   you know,   I'm not really too concerned about him, I have to say. I mean, he's just doing whatever he's doing and this, that, and then Bill Cooper kind of nailed him right at the beginning, and I think that's always been the case.   And so be it, you know, and I I always view him as really as a coke fueled, so his energy levels are sort of stupid. How can he just keep belting that stuff out 3 and 4 hours a day every day of the week? I mean, maybe he's very desperate because he owes   $1200,000,000 to somebody, apparently, whatever that might mean. But,   the the also, the on a positive side, there are people,   who will not hear this show   necessarily   or others, but   would support something if it comes along.  

I mean, there'll be industrious. There'll be people out there and cadres, and groups that are not necessarily Masons or anything like that,   that will and maybe even Masons, you know, because no organisation is wholly loyal   to their leaders. None. And that includes the National Socialists.   I mean, one of the things I'm just slightly going off beam. I'll probably mention this next week when Thomas is on.   One of the very interesting sections in this book by Goebbels I'll just bring it about. And this is just about the management of individuals in a task, that's all I'm really saying this for,   is to do with the bomb plot, the bomb that went off and that injured Hitler considerably.  

And, it's never been apparent how much it injured him, but it was a lot.   He didn't die. He didn't get his legs blown off like his stenographer. 3 of them died in that, and   he didn't. But he was deaf. He was shaking for days because a bomb went off under his table,   and he was in bed for 3 weeks, and nothing was happening, and this is after what, July 1944?   And, then you discover all these generals that had been plotting against him. You look at the fact that many of them were not pulling to defend   the nation at all.   They weren't.  

You you see the conversations between Goebbels and Hitler, they're furious with the generals,   saying that the galliters, the people from the party, were far more passionate and vigorous about defending the nation than those in the military services,   who were just asking about half of them. And they were,   you know. They found huge chunks of men that had been held back from the front at the wrong time. These things are so amazing and you look at this, so it's not, you know, you have a certain view. People go, oh, the Germans are bad. The first thing port of call on the history line is, the Germans were very evil. Yeah, I went to school. Okay. I've got that. They're really really evil. Then you go, maybe not true. Then you think, actually, they're probably the good guys.   And I I the way I tend to describe it is that, of all the parties involved, they were the least worst and by such a degree that de facto they are the good guys. Also, they were fighting a defensive war even though it's portrayed as an attacking war. They wanted to take over the world. No, they didn't.  

They just wanted to retain their own nation and and secure their borders and but, you know, the Treaty of Versailles caused them to do all these things and this obviously, we could talk for 10000 hours about this. But,   you find that many of the generals just didn't give a toss.   It really comes across in Goebbels' diaries.   They didn't care. They were bothered. They were more bothered about going to a wine bar. I'm serious. They're the aristocrats.   Yeah. Hitler Hitler so admired and wanted to please. Yeah. It really on. Until he saw how they operated   and saw where their loyalties lie, and it comes down, and we've have it here. So although we even look at what's up against us being this monolithic thing, it isn't.  

They're all like rats in a sack.   They'll all be sort of, oh, I want a bit more power than that guy, and there'll be all sorts of crap going on with them.   So that's something that we need to think about. And the role of propaganda   is massively important. It's it's been a very useful book and sobering book to read in so many ways,   because you look at how,   all the sides are using propaganda to lie about things to deceive and raise and lower morale   wherever they need to put it.   And that's and that process has never stopped. It didn't stop in 1945.   They got rewarded after the the war. They got rewarded. Like, I I think of doctor Seuss.  

Yes. That's that's an example. Ted Gesell. Yeah. So he's all amped up to get everybody to go to war, and then he he's rewarded with all these Hollywood contracts afterward. And he's, you know, the Yeah. Life of the party. You know, all the cocktail parties after.   It's a revelation reading the book. It it really is. I found it absolutely amazing. I I don't normally get I I think I know what I'm about to read. But this one is distinctly different because it's based on 75,000   pages of diaries.   And so you get these intimate sort of   emotional passages from him, where he's really exhilarated, where he's really angry with someone,   and when they're when they're dealing with   the the bomb plot,   it's absolutely an amazing day. It's absolutely stunning. It's so confusing what's going on,   even to Goebbels as he's writing these diaries about the other day. They don't know who's in charge of it. They don't know who instigated it. Everybody they they're having to literally talk to a man, an officer, just being sent down to arrest him to convince him of this because he's got a gun at them, and Goebbels has got a gun in his desk. All this stuff's going on. And you're thinking, oh, yeah, they were completely in charge all the time. Manure.  

Absolutely not the case. Amazing. It's amazing that they got as far as they did. And Hitler was basically shot to pieces. After that bomb went off, he was shot to bits. He was finished.   They Goebbels was talking him up but he said privately to somebody, he said, the Fuhrer that you knew before that bomb, you're never gonna see him again. No one ever did. He'd gone.   Because if you see him, he's shaking like mad in some of these photographs, then people say he got spirited away at Brazil. He would have been dead. He was in a bad way. Right?   He didn't suffer physical life threatening injuries at the time, but I've never had a bomb go off next to me, but ain't gonna be good for your nerves. Right? People that have, they get So it we all this stuff is kind of brushed over but in this book, in his diaries, the detail is amazing.  

And it creates a very different picture   and a very useful one. The people that want to defend Berlin really want to defend it. The people half the people in the army just want to go home. Not all of them. They were very, very loyal soldiers. And he's going through all the generals, I forgot one, who just hanker or something. He just fought to the bloody end. He said, I'll I'll and they kept one city going. He said, we're not quitting, no matter what.   Amazing.   There's some amazing stuff. I'm still trying to dig up that story of 6 British Tommies that fought for the Germans in the fall of Berlin.   It's in an anecdote because a Russian guy approached a British officer when it was all over.  

And and I said, these 6   men defended this building   and you need to give them a Victoria Cross. He said, they killed more of my men. He said, they held out in this building for a week. 6 of them. They all died. They killed a 150 Russians, these 6 blokes.   Fought like tigers.   It's all this hidden stuff. So it's like in any army, you've got those that are really passionate about it and you got those that are indifferent. And   and talking about a movement or whatever you want, a project   to to provide us with an honest,   bank that would serve us all, it will be exactly the same.  

It will be exactly the same. So the task is considerable. But if there's a way to get across to huge numbers of people, maybe something else changes, you know. Now the German people weren't stupid. They didn't like being lied to. Hitler's last broadcaster, I think was in January, never spoke to them ever again after that. It was nothing but bad news. Couldn't bring himself to do it.   Terrible times, really terrible times. There were,   you know, and and they were confident right up to the end of 1944.   Almost, it's absolutely bizarre.  

From our perspective, looking at it now in retrospect, we see where the major pivot points were and how it collapsed. They didn't see it that way. In fact, I think in autumn of 1944, he released a film.   It's I've got to try and find it. I've got the name of it somewhere. They released this film, which is apparently fantastic historical epic. He had multiple copies of it made Goebbels and flown around everywhere to inspire people, and it bloody well did.   They all got absolutely galvanised by this film. It was one of the Fiction? Fiction? Yes. It's a historical thing. I'll dig it out for next week. I just don't have the book in front of me now.   But it's it's,   and if I if I forget it next week, remind me and I'll I'll make sure I mention it.  

It it's the day to day operations, the way that they were dealing with things, and it's a revelation.   If you're interested,   it's not just about a war, it's about how human beings under pressure are really working with and undermining one another at the same time.   Right to the very end,   Goebbels hated hated Ribbentrop so much. He was trying to get him fired with, like, 3 weeks left to go before the end of the war.   He just hated his guts, and he was trying to get Goring fired for 2 years. He said he's bloody useless.   It's incredible. Ribbon Ribbentrop was disliked by by a lot of people though. But he was an arrogant kid, apparently. Yeah. And, nobody really liked it. I'm I'm just you've got all this makeup of all these different people. Right? And when the pressure comes on, they're real true   their good bits and their bad bits get amplified. So that not everybody's all bad, but there's some things that they get really strong at and others and so but it's like politicians, you know, they're all bullshitters. Oh, I can do this and I can do that. We all are to some degree. We sort of go, I think I can do that. And you find out, I'm actually not really equipped to do this very well. I'm I'm actually cocking it up. And it's a bit like that under pressure. That's that's sort of what happened. I gotta keep an eye on the time here.  

So yeah. I think   Downfall was an incredible film. I I actually seen Downfall.   Mhmm. And apparently,   David Irving reckons it was based on his book.   I don't know how, you know, true that is. But,   Paul, what's it about?   It's it's it's about, Berlin in 1945,   the last months of Hitler,   and it's well acted. If you go on to YouTube, you can see little bits of it, but it was shown on, where was it shown?   Where did I see it? I think it was shown on their television.   Yeah. I think it was many years ago. It was made about 20 years ago,   and it's incredible film.  

And   the acting in it is superb,   but they can never ever get an actor that looks like Hitler, ever.   They've always failed.   Yeah. I mean, the worst one was,   What's the name of the guy that played Obi Wan Kenobi in Star Wars? He did a version of that, of Hitler. Oh, Alec Guinness. He used to be once.   She really spoke with a very German accent. Yeah.   And, so I'm German and so is my wife.   But all Germans hear you now. Yeah. Fantastic.   But,   no. I think I think that the the acting was   absolutely spot right on. It's like another film that another German film which is excellent is,   Das Boot. I don't know if you've ever seen that. I keep meaning to see that.  

Mhmm.   I can't That's outstanding. Yeah. It is. It is. Guys, we're at we're   at towards the end because we're   absolutely gonna end bang on 11 o'clock tonight at 3 hours here in the UK. We're gonna end at 6 PM in the US. I've got a song to play out with, which is, 2 and a bit 2 and a bit minutes. So I'm gonna start playing that. Any final words? Anything you wanna say? We're back next week. Looking forward to having you back next week. Yeah? Oh, well, thank you, Paul. That's that's all I wanna say. Thank you. This is a good show.   Hello? Look forward to the next one. Say is we've got to rediscover   our finest weapon   ever. Know what that is?  

Humor and laughter. Laughter.   Laugh at them. The World Economic Forum,   we should be bent over double laughing   at these people. Starmer and all that. They're a joke. They're mentally sick, and they're that They are. The presidential   candidates,   Trump and Harris Yeah. They're a joke. It's hilarious.   If you if you don't have any stock in them, then you you you can find it just hilarious   what they're doing. And and And let's let's relief. Sign out on the sorry. I didn't mean to talk over you, Patrick. Carry on. Sorry. It's a relief, though, to be able to laugh.   Yeah.  

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