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Broadcasts live every Thursday at 8:00p.m. uk time on Radio Soapbox: http://radiosoapbox.com

Today, I'm joined by the usual crew: Paul B, Patrick C, and Eric von Essex. We kick off with some hospital anecdotes and the fascinating characters I've met there;  a 106-year-old former Royal Ballet dancer and a 100-year-old woman who survived the firebombing of Hamburg during World War II. We also delve into the importance of human connections and the value of old people as living libraries.

We then shift gears to discuss the concept of deception in various aspects of life, including sports, media, and politics. A clip from Elon Musk's interview with Jordan Peterson sparks a conversation about the woke mind virus and its impact on society. We also touch on the role of the Delphi technique in manipulating public opinion and the importance of humor in countering deceit.

As always, we have some light-hearted moments, including a song request from Warren and a humorous discussion about British TV shows like Captain Pugwash. We also explore the idea of creating alternative narratives and the power of storytelling in shaping society.

[00:00:24] Unknown:

Hey. You know, people will always need coal. That That was the name of that song. I quite like that. I keep playing it, don't I? It's Thursday,   25th July.   That sounds like an important date, more important than it should be.   And, this is Paul English Live. Episode   it's always an episode, isn't it? Welcome to the show.   And it's still November here in England. It's not really, of course. It's July 25th, isn't it? But,   if you were to look outside of my window, you'd think it's November. And possibly wherever you are in the UK, it might be November with you too.   And we've got the same crew, the usual crew. We're turning into a crew here now.  

I'm joined by Paul b, Patrick c,   and, Eric von Essig should be with us as well. I think I spoke to him a little bit earlier today, so maybe it's The Four Musketeers.   Probably not.   Now Here's the 4 Musketeers. How about that?   I'll be,   I'll be dartangan this week.   Now where did I put my rapier?  

[00:02:38] Unknown:

Here?  

[00:03:05] Unknown:

I love that little drum roll. Hi. And I like Thursdays too. I hope you do too. Welcome back everyone. It's, as I said, Thursday 25th July   2024.   Only a few months away from a hilarious event called the US election, and it's already looking quite mad out there.   But before we get into all the mayhem and have,   give the floor over to Paul and Patrick and Eric, and Eric's rocked up too. So hi, Eric. You they they can only hear me talking to them right now. I'm keeping them in the ante room, but, we'll be connecting up in a few minutes time.   I just thought I would, kick off with a few personal anecdotes about growing up in Britain. Nah. I'm not gonna do that at all, actually.  

I think I mentioned last week, I've,   I've been, my wife's unwell. I've, I'm not it's not a a regular theme here, but she is. She's in hospital and recovering really good. So lots of encouraging things going on with that, all things given.   But,   I end up, because I'm like that, talking to lots of the other patients there. And,   last weekend,   after the show,   last Thursday,   she got moved to another ward,   which was quite interesting because,   she'd been put in a ward where she shouldn't have for hip replacements, and my wife's not there for hip replacement.   And, they're all a bit sad to see her go. It's probably because I turned up and cheered them up a bit and, you know, gave them licorice and things like this, but we had a really good chat. They said, oh, you're going. Anyway, I said, look, if we go to this other,   once my wife's in this other ward, I'll stick my nose in and say hi.  

And on the Friday, I did. We had a it was very interesting. A new lady had arrived with a broken hip. It's the broken hip ward,   and she'd   misplaced her footing on a step   near the pier here.   Obviously, doesn't get out much. Very jolly woman. She seemed to be okay, and all that was going on.   However, the new ward,   was full of people that were quite old when I got there, and most of them weren't in a particularly good way. I couldn't tell you why they weren't in a good way. I'm not a doctor, not yet anyway,   and, not that I'm planning to be. And the woman in the bed next door to me was in a right old state.  

And then the woman in the bed on the other side was also very noisy.   And so I didn't think too much more of it. But I've been down there obviously a few times since,   and got a bit of background on these   really wonderful and very interesting characters.   And I was speaking to one of the nurses,   about her background and this, that, and the other. And said to me, she said, I just love looking after old people.   And she'd been looking after them for 25 years. And this is probably the only sort of conversation or it's a type of conversation   or little monologue I'm making that I would only make it these years in my life. I certainly would have talked like this to you if I was 16 or 26 because, you know, I had no reason really to go into a hospital unless   I'd lost bits of my body, which I did and banged up and all that kind of stuff.  

But you pay sort of quite a bit of attention to the other people around you because they're not well,   and I found I don't like that. I think it's quite a normal sort of reaction that when whoever it is, if people are unwell, you'd really rather wish they weren't and that they were better. And I think that goes out to just about everybody you meet irrespective of whatever   ever other considerations you may have. Anyway,   there's a kind of silly little dovetailing about to take place because,   the woman,   on one side,   had she'd had I found out that she'd had a fall. That's all I knew.  

And she wasn't talking properly because they put her on painkillers, and   that's why she wasn't making any sense. I didn't know that when I first arrived. And the same was also the case of the woman on the other side, who was also not making much sense and was quite shouty, actually,   and said,   I'm not normally like this and all this kind of stuff. It was I said, that's okay.   But after a few days, they'd both sort of calmed down because they'd got over the accidents. Both of them had basically had a fall. And as you probably know, even though I know you're all very, very young and sprightly,   falls as you get older   are can be kind of major in all sorts of ways. You get shook up pretty bad, and this is really what had happened to these good fine ladies. How fine were they? Well,   the one that was on one side, I only found out today,   she used to be either the head of   or high up in the Royal Ballet.  

And this would explain why she was walking or jumping around like a gazelle on a Zimmer frame this afternoon.   And you you go, so what? Well, you'll go, so what, when I tell you how old she was. She's a 106,   and I went, what? I nearly fell off my chin, needing a hip replacement when they told me that. Anyway, she's in really good fettle. And I, another woman there who seems to know because, you know, she's in there for something else was letting me know about this.   And, really,   when I get back, because I think she's still gonna be in there, I I want to start see if she can show me a few steps, you know, because we've all got to take up ballet at some time apparently. And,   why not now? While I've got, somebody who was associated at high level with the Royal Ballet. So that was quite amazing.  

But the story on the other side for me is even   more arresting. Shows you what's kind of right under your nose.   The other day, her son came in to see this woman who'd not been making much sense, and I got talking to him. Great chat.   And,   he,   he was going through a little bit he said, oh, yeah. My mum had had fallen over. And he was she was talking now,   but with a German accent.   I could hear people's radar going up. It's really quite fun this. And,   I saw her today where she was very lucid, and,   she's, she's only a 100.   And,   so I was really impressed. I'm serious. I was very impressed with them. They're both taking a clobber,   and they were both getting back on with things, and and it's impressive and very encouraging.  

In fact, so much so that she'd,   taken herself off to the TV room. They've got that. It's a very luxurious hospital. It's not really. It's just an NHS, and it's a really, really nice place for them to be. And she was watching   something or other. But whilst I was talking to her son   and this kind of dove tailed into some of the,   shows that we've had here and that we will have more of with regards to World War 2.   Get this. This is amazing.   She was a young woman in Hamburg. So she's a 100 now.   So during World War 2, she would have been in her late teens, early twenties. And she was in Hamburg when it got firebombed and obviously   escaped.  

I think her son was telling me that he was on the she was on the outskirts of that hellish   bombardment that that city had to endure.   So that in itself was, a very interesting connection point for me, a, because I've spoken a lot about those things.   Regular listeners will know about the book Hell Storm by Tom Goodrich, which goes into the hellish detail   of that period of history. So here I had a woman who'd survived it right next to me,   and I haven't had chance to speak to it much more, and I'm not really there to do a research project on what it was like because she's recovering. But just the mere fact that she was there was really rather marvellous actually. And her son spoke very well about her   and then got around to speaking about his dad. And this is where it gets even more more amazing, I thought.  

He said that his father had passed away at the beginning of the COVID thing about 4 years ago   at the age of 96.   I said, wow. I said, you're really long lived? He said, yeah. He said, up until him actually getting poorly. So this would be about when he was 94 and 95. They were still going around in jets, going to Venice and places like this in their early nineties. And I'm thinking,   Paul, you really are a stick in the mud. I don't go anywhere. I don't know what it's like for you guys out there, but I kind of detest airport so much. I'm not bothered. But these people, they were really giving it a go.   But here's the kicker.  

He,   being of a similar age, was also around the same age during   the war. During the bombardment of Hamburg,   and he   was a pilot flying Lancaster bombers bombing Hamburg.   I said, really? He said, yeah. I said, so, basically,   your mom and dad's relationship started off in a ball of fire. He kinda smiled. He said, I guess it did. I said, that's absolutely what a remarkable tale. Has anybody really, you know,   recorded that or written it down? He said, not that he was aware   of. It was,   extremely,   a resting tale. I just thought I would share it with you because there you go. You bumble through life, and that was going she's a wonderful woman. She's she speaks English   and reads the newspaper at a 100.  

And, he was also telling me that she'd received I don't know if you know about this, but in the in the United Kingdom,   if you reach the the grand old age of 100, which is it's an achievement. I've no idea how people do it. She didn't either. She said, I have no idea how I've made a 100, she was telling me   earlier   today. You get,   a card, like a super birthday card from the monarch.   Now, of course, the monarch at the moment is King Charles the 3rd. And is it Queen Camilla? I suppose it might be. Or the king's consort. I've no idea what the official title is. Anyway, she got that card and her son was showing it to me. He said, look here's the card. I said, wow very impressive   and apparently her first words were   I wonder if I can sell it.  

I liked her even more. I said, you've got a card from King Big Ear? She said, yes, but I'm not really too bothered about that. The mere fact that she'd achieved this age,   absolutely stunning.   So there you go. I can't get away from the bombing of Hamburg and those stories and maybe it's just like a magnetic field because I've spent so much time looking at them and I know many listeners have here too. So there you go that's my opening little pitch. A very intro every time I go down there I think I'm gonna get some new exceptional story and you know what I probably am.   The woman on the opposite side kept looking at my wife and going, why is she always so happy? I said, because she's married to me, you see, and she's not well, but she's very happy, very buoyant.  

She was telling me about the Farnborough Air Show and was desperate because there's so much grey cloud down here. You can't see a thing in the sky. It's ridiculous. But   these are wonderful people.   They really are. There's, what's that old phrase about old men? I guess it applies to old women too, so I'm not trying to be sort of nasty about this. There's   a, that phrase that says, when an old man dies, an entire library is burnt to the ground. This is very true, and I think   they're such an asset and a resource.   And I understood exactly why the nurse had said that she she said to me, I love my old people. She'd been nursing them for 25 years, and I said, they've got so much   going on. She said, oh, yeah. She said, it's it's really rather remarkable. So there you go. That's my that's that's the opening shot for this week. Right. Let's introduce the reprobates lurking around in the back end of the studio.  

We'll start we'll start off with Eric because, Eric, it's only a few minutes since I last spoke to you. Eric von Essex, welcome to the show.  

[00:14:20] Unknown:

Hello, Paul. And thank you for having me on again, you know. So that it's all good fun. It was an amazing story. Yeah. It is. It was in Hamburg.   But Yeah. I've heard very similar stories to that.   You're a little quiet, by the way. You're a little quiet. How's that? Is that right after the phone? Microphone. That's it. I I've heard similar stories to that. I spoke to a woman who I thought was Welsh,   but she wasn't. She was Austrian,   and she was actually in the,   German army during the war in France, and she learned to speak English at evening classes   in France.  

Right. Thanks to the German army.   And she was a,   telephone operator   with with the army, and her   friend,   who was with her got captured by the French resistance   and brutally,   murdered, but she was raped and, oh, it's terrible what they did to her. And   everybody was appalled by what the French resistance did.   And and she met,   I think after Dida. I think she was captured.   And,   she   married an English Tommy or a Welsh Tommy   and spent the rest of her life in Wales. And you would have thought she was Welsh, but she had an incredible life.   And she volunteered to go into the,   German army, which women could do, but they didn't go on the front line. There she was just a telephone operator. So there's a little trinket of information there, which people might find interesting.  



[00:15:49] Unknown:

Yeah. No. It's it's good stuff. I'm beginning to think I'm gonna be down there loads trying to pick up stories. I thought, good grief, there's just an absolute wealth   of incredibly arresting anecdotes probably lying around with these people, but you gotta talk to them. I'm a bit of a chatty sort. You can possibly tell. I'm trying to go around and just   talk to everyone who who looks as though they need a chat. And it's so important in those spaces. You really notice it because they get very quiet. All these these irritating machines that go ping all the time, driving everybody crazy.   Understand you know, turn it off and, you know, these people are not in a great way to start off with. They're some of them are in a great deal of pain. There was one woman,   on the on the other side that I was talking to, and, she'd got something wrong with her foot.  

And,   I said, you know, what's going on? She said, oh, I've got this kind of thing going on with my foot and I've been here for a week and they want to put me in a home. I said, she said, I don't want them to put me in a home. I said, well, you've got to be obstreperous about it. She said, do I? I said, of course you do. You've got to hold your end up. She said, I'm not going there. I said, no, don't. Why?   And,   she was, she's the one that talked to me about the Farnborough Air Show and all this, that, and the other.   Just a wonderful   wonderful person. She was, you know, she was telling me about all the other people of this this person's very nice, oh, last night, and all that kind of stuff. So I feel like I'm sort of like a bit part doctor in one of these TV drama type things, you know, going around listening to these people.  

But it's it's really good, and everybody appreciates   a a conversation.   It lifts the energy of the place,   and I'm not sort of   too overbearing. I mean, I possibly could be. I don't know. But,   yeah. Just really, really good. Another woman with her arm and this, that, and the other. And I thought, wow. You know? So I I found it really quite interesting. And,   it's also tapped into the fact that and I've mentioned this here before.   I'm currently in the process of completing, fingers crossed. Maybe I'm sort of, counting the chickens before they've hatched type stuff, but I've just about completed this audiobook for Irving Publishing,   which is about the Nuremberg trials.  

So it was as if I'm not really looking for this kind of stuff, but it's just been stepping into my space over the last 3 or 4 days in a big way.   And,   Yeah. That's that's kind of what's been going on. So, Eric, welcome to the show.   As I said, I did introduce us as the 4 Musketeers, which is extremely thin and stupid and reckless of me.   But you don't have to take on the name of any of them even though they were jolly good fellows of Stadthats   and fought valiantly for their king, which is not such a bad thing.   Paul,   Paul b,   are you lurking in the studio, sir?  



[00:18:34] Unknown:

I would say, yes. I am lurking.   Yeah. Am I am I quiet as well?  

[00:18:40] Unknown:

What I've done for all of you. Yeah. Maybe it's just I'm just checking the meters. Everything's okay. Anybody in the chat on Rumble? By the way, hi to everybody,   in the Rumble chat.   Well attended straight off. Great to see you all here again.   Is the I think the sound's okay. If anybody just wants to write in and say, yeah. We've got the volumes right, that's always extremely valuable and useful because there's only so many checks we can do before the show. I think we've gone, we've we've gone okay. But, yeah, Paul, you're you're looking fine.   How are you? Okay. We've not spoken since last week, have we? Normally, we speak all the time. No. Actually, we haven't. There's a I mean,  

[00:19:15] Unknown:

it's a good thing that you do a show once a week because we we have an opportunity to talk. Yeah. We'll speak. Yeah. We don't. Everybody wants to listen.  

[00:19:24] Unknown:

Yeah. So It is. Yeah. It is at the moment. So did so that that,  

[00:19:29] Unknown:

that macro the macro stuff that I I gave you on Audacity was helpful?  

[00:19:35] Unknown:

Yes. It was. Now to explain to people who don't know what Paul's talking about, because Paul sometimes uses words like macro, don't you? And you just did then.   Yes.   So   excuse me. I'm choking on my drugs for today,   my performance enhancing drugs.   Yeah. A macro is this sort of little routine that I've been using to   improve the sound quality on the recordings that I'm doing for the audiobook.   It's it's been quite challenging actually in all sorts of ways because it's so long.   I think we're gonna come in at something like about 17 hours.   And maintaining sort of energy levels and all sorts of other things that that you don't really think about when you start   has been,   of some concern to me. So and the other thing, as Paul knows, and probably anybody here who is into audio, or listening to music or listening to podcasts or anything like that, is that we all know that no matter how good the sound is, it can always be better. Really, it can as well. Or can it, Paul? It can always be better.  

And when you get into that, it kind of chews your life up. You're going, I should have done that like that. That would have been better like that. But yes. Yes. So Paul supplied me with a macro, which is like a a chain of events to actually run a processing rig   or a series of actions on these files. And so far, touch wood, they're sounding pretty clean and crisp. I'll run some of them by you, actually, middle of next week, so you can call me up and say, Paul, these are crap. I could have done way better, but but that would be that would be great. That would be really good. I would I would never say something like that to your face. No. No. But you could say it to other people, and I wouldn't mind. I think you should if it's true. Well,  

[00:21:18] Unknown:

the one the one problem with, like, an audiobook or something that that takes 17   hours is actually the microphone that you and I use.   Because   your physical difference from the mic distance from the microphone   has such a radical   change   in how the microphone sounds,   even if you you move just a little bit.   I mean, I'm right in front of it at 2 inches away, and I turn to the side,   at the same distance, but I'm not speaking at it. I'm speaking next to it. Where have you gone?   Right. So   so if you're trying to get audio that is consistent all the way through the 17 hours, I really think you need a ribbon microphone   and,   a sound baffle and a   an exceedingly quiet space,   and just do  

[00:22:14] Unknown:

just use that for your voice work. I I we've got a lot of yeah. You're right. You're right. You know what I've got? I've actually got and, Eric, this is worth what Paul's just said is spot on with someone's just made a comment about coming in in and out on the mic, and it's such a subtle thing. And, of course, we have to we sort of do this on air. We do a bit of a sort of improved sound check because it's just tricky when there's 3 or 4 of us here, but it's the right way to do it for now.   I actually have a little tape measure.   I'm serious. So that my mouth   and I've got the mic at the at the same angle all the time. This is after about 2 or 3 chapters. I went, oh, hang on just a minute. I'm doing this different or each time. This is gonna be a nightmare at the end.  

So I have a little tape measure, and my mouth is about   2 and a half inches, 3 inches from the front of the microphone. And then I have to sit quite still and make sure I don't move around too much.   But you're talking about,   unwanted   noises.   Oh, boy. Have I had fun with that? This is where I am is reasonably,   quiet. For most of these shows, you won't have heard anybody being shot in the background, even though people do get shot in the background a lot where I live. It's very no. It's not. And, but this   We are we are cursed.  

I think cursed is the right word. Certainly, it's the word that my one of my sons use,   with the permanent   arrival of brand new seagulls all year round.   Of course, they come in little batches. Yeah. Now these things   I don't know if you've seen seagulls when they're brand new. They're kind of brown colored. They don't look magnificent at all. They're quite stupid,   because there is a lot of them turn into roadkill here. They just can't figure out, poor buggers, you know, what a car is. So they don't make it more than a few days, many of them.   But, boy, do they make a lot of noise. And, But you might be onto something.  



[00:24:03] Unknown:

Yeah. You might be onto something, an audiobook   that has   very, very, very faint   nature   and wildlife sounds   in the track.   That would be absolutely   stellar. Yes, sir. That would be amazing.  

[00:24:21] Unknown:

I I don't think the listeners would if you heard these things go off and I'll tell you, it's been,   boy, has it been challenging because,   the book, the Irving book, has got all these German names and German place names in it. And I'm trying to remember,   Did I read that 3 hours ago, and how did I pronounce it? Holy moly.   I'm I'm generally I think I've done pretty good, but I bet I'm gonna get some feedback going, you idiot. You pronounced it like this in chapter 3 and that in chapter 16. I've already kind of cleared that with the publishers, and they said, well, if anybody can do any better, you know, they can they can, have a go. And I said, well, maybe we could run a competition to see who could pronounce these words because there's some unbelievable ones.   But what's happening I don't know if you wanna do that. No. No. Probably. Oh, I don't know. Maybe some maybe some grumblers in the rumble chat. Guys and gals out there, you could have a go. We'll we'll set up a competition. How do you pronounce   or whatever? Some of them are unbelievable. I'm going and I've I've been going to a pronunciation   site. I'm going, I don't know how to say that.  

And, some   particularly on a long parrot this has happened so many times. Right? I scan it ahead. I read it. But there's only so much I can kind of remember because   everybody speaks in their own rhythm.   You know, you put your own punctuation in even if there isn't any puncture even if the punctuation's not there in the text, I have to read it, and it's kind of different. This will be the same for anybody doing this sort   of stuff. But many is the time, Paul, when I've gone through a very long paragraph   just about to get to the end. Because if I can do it in a paragraph, I can take a break and I can match it up really well when I go into the next thing. There there there like these natural breaks in it and it's okay. But I get to the last bit and there's some bugger of a word and I cock it right up. I have to record the whole thing again or one of these blasted seagulls from hell   will land on the roof here on my flat roof garage and start screaming like   some like razor blades.  

And I thought, oh, that won't be on the track, and I play it back and there I am talking you guys   all the way through. It's,   I'm going, I don't think I don't think publishers gonna take care for that too much.   And,   so yes, I think once I've got a little a few shekels around sorry sorry to use such a word. A few pounds, a few crisp British pounds. I think getting a proper sort of, fully,   insulated sound booth situation here will work, And I might look at the ribbon mic, you know, maybe maybe I'll get one for Christmas or something. But,   yeah, that that's been   that's been a lot of a lot of fun. And just by way on content of the book, I've I know we'll come to that later. If we go back into a world war thing, otherwise, I'll divert things. So   brilliant, Paul. Great to have you here again. And, Patrick. Hi, Patrick.  

I know you're there because we we were speaking a bit earlier. Welcome to the studio, Patrick.  

[00:27:09] Unknown:

Hey, Paul. How's it going?  

[00:27:11] Unknown:

It's it's going lovely.   Killed any animals today, Patrick?   None.  

[00:27:17] Unknown:

Always a bit disappointed. Maybe unintentionally on the road and didn't see them, little little mice running here and there.  

[00:27:24] Unknown:

Oh,   boy. Mice. Oh, yeah. Yeah. You know,   I I was we I was over at somebody else's house where I was parking my car yesterday   to go to the hospital. A really good friend,   it was part of our little sort of gathering where we meet up every couple of weeks and feast like kings, you know, that kind of stuff. And,   I got a tour of, of her back garden. My, my oldest son was in town, so he got to see this. And, they've got about they got 5 chickens, which,   one of them is a ludicrous type of chicken.   It's got this sort of red crown that falls over its eyes so it can't see where it's going. Do you know what kind of a chicken I'm talking about? Would you know? No.   No. I don't.  

No. I don't think any of us really want to know. I mean, it's I think it's difficult enough being chicken as it is, but having one of these flaps of your eyes so you can't see where you're going. Anyway, the chicken coop is infested with mice. Apparently, we didn't see any because of it during broad daylight, but apparently, there's a lot, which means that their cat is like it's just every day. It's Christmas for the cat. It's just having a whale of a time hunting down all these mice in the garden, and then there was a big pond full of,   koi and carp and goldfish.  

You know, I I it's nothing like my garden.   My garden's just got I don't wanna tell you what my garden's like, but it's not like that. So, yeah. So I didn't see any dead mice, but maybe you did get a few today. Yeah. Maybe you got a few.  

[00:28:50] Unknown:

Nail yeah. Nailed them to the wall, you know, like at work. We we do these little, we we make earpieces for for communications headphones, and   it sounds like, you said the other day when I was on a call with you that it's like nailing a mouse to the wall or something every time we would, put one of these things together.  

[00:29:08] Unknown:

Yeah. Yeah. I was having a call with Patrick the other day with, someone else who's gonna be joining Radio Soapbox soon.   We hope we will I will make it a yeah. We'll we'll leave his name out of it for now because we've got a few things. But it it it's looking as though it could be a really good addition.   Another UK host   who's got a really interesting approach and is is passionate, I guess, about the radio side of things as opposed to just video, which is really where I'm at still, you know, because I'm very old and, and all those sorts. I'm not really, but, but that kind of stuff.   And he should be joining us hopefully soon. So if if and when that comes about, I'll be having him on here as a guest, hopefully, in a few weeks time when we've got all our ducks in a row.  

And,   and and that should be fun too. He's been doing some rather lively stuff down at Speakers Corner, hasn't he, Patrick?  

[00:29:54] Unknown:

Yeah. And I've been reading about Speakers Corner,   in the past month or so, and it was kind of interesting coming across him because it's like, wow. I know a little bit about this now.  

[00:30:05] Unknown:

Right. I mean, is is Speaker's Corner,   this goes out to Paul too. Eric will know about it. But is it is it known in America that we have this venue in Hyde Park in London called Speaker's Corner? You have you heard of it, Paul?  

[00:30:18] Unknown:

No. I've I've not heard of it.  

[00:30:21] Unknown:

Well, it's quite a thing, you know.   It's really it really is quite a thing. I mean, I I guess there's some kind of a restriction there as well to some degree,   but   you can go down there and take your soapbox.   You can. You can take any box you like, but a soapbox would be best, methinks.   And you can get on it, and you can hold court. You can just start talking about anything you like. It's apparently,   supposedly,   don't hold your breath on this, one of the last bastions of open air free speech.   What's your take on it, Eric? Have you ever been down there? You ever have you ever gone down there and done a Fockham Hall broadcast,   you know, from Speaker's Corner?  



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I haven't been a, no, I haven't done a Fockham Hall broadcast, but my parents took me there when I was really young. And there was some some bloke dressed up as a Zulu,   and he was spouting off   about about horse racing. I always remember that. Prince Zolt Monolulu was his name, something like that. Oh, yeah. Him. Very   yeah. Household name. He was there.   And,   but, you know, it was it's quite interesting, really. But although I was too really young to take it in. And I've when I've worked in London, I've worked the speaker's corner, but that was in the weekdays, and I think it's on is it anywhere on Sunday? I think they go there, isn't it? Yeah. We still need you to get in on that mic a bit nearer,   Eric, if you can. It's almost it that's that's You got it over your nose, haven't you? You've got it right in your nose. Almost. But what I like about this mic is it,   cuts out any unwanted cells.  

Sorry. And,   I found  

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It does. It does. I didn't know you were a producer of unwanted sounds, but now that we know,   that changes   that changes the atmosphere somewhat. I'm going, oh, god.  

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I think it's the mung beans, actually.   Yeah. But,  

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sorry. It won't pick them up. It won't pick them up, so it better not. Good grief. I think and the some, more adjustments to this mic because it's about an inch from my mouth. If I ever get any closer, I'm gonna be swallowing it. You know? Well, you sound good with it about an inch. So keep it there. Just stay in on it. There. Yeah. Yeah. You don't need to shout, but you're you're you're coming in loud and clear now on the whole thing. So that's that's pretty good. Yeah. Cool. Righto. So hopefully, it will cut out the unwanted sounds from the mongvings.   Yeah. I   have I I didn't see your Zulu friend down at Speakers' Corner because I haven't been down there. Well, I've been in London, really, on a regular basis for 20 years now.  

20 odd years. 24 oh my, Gideon.   Londonistan or whatever they call it these days. But, certainly, these videos look lively, and   it's also really interesting in terms of a communication dynamic   because you get,   you get the hecklers.   And,   they're not a band, by the way. Although, I think it is a good name for a band, the hecklers.   And, the on certainly, on these videos, there were a couple who one of them was from Oop North. My neck of the woods, I could tell straight off because it's right, strong accident like that, and it would all flat and everything. You are, and all this kind of stuff. I mean, it was something like that.   Maybe just escape from Hare Hills and the burning of buses from last week, but he was particularly   obnoxious.  

He wasn't the only one. And the reason why he was kinda you know, I'm kind of figuring out why are people obnoxious. They've they lack, don't have this capacity to actually hear ideas   that they don't like. They have no capacity to hear it. So there's no questioning coming back. There's just accusations.   And it's this whole thing with group dynamics and communication is really is very challenging. I don't think it's anything new.   I mean, we know, don't we? You probably know the names of these things. There's a technique they use, not in open air meetings, but certainly meetings in halls   to effectively hijack the conversation or the presentation and to sort of send it off somewhere else by planting 2 or 3 people in the audience   who stand up and start to agree with one another about how stupid you are or about certain comments. Is it the Delphi technique or something like that? Am I getting this right? Does that ring a bell with anyone?  



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Yes.   Sorry. Please carry on.  

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No. I'm I've I've no idea. I've heard of the Delphi  

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technique, but I've never I don't know the definition of it. No. Not me neither. It's probably nothing. I mean, I guess we've always we've possibly all been at the receiving end of it at some point.   And so when we met on Tuesday,   it's very interesting about the size of groups.   We can do it here sort of, you know, we've got a a good,   group here on Rumble, and we could have an awful lot more because everybody's communicating by text. But when you're physically in a room with people,   I don't care how wonderful everybody is. There seems to be some kind of a situation that arises. Didn't this didn't arise on Tuesday at all.   That's not what I'm saying. But   you get to a certain size and you can't help,   but it sort of fractures no matter how lovely everybody is and how well it kinda just does that.  

Is there a kind of an optimum size for human groups? Is it 7 or something like that? I I kind of figure it must be. I don't know. You guys must have come across these sorts of things, particularly in businesses. You know, you get large meetings. And if they're not controlled properly, the community Jesus had Yeah. Jesus had 12 apostles, so maybe 12.   Maybe 12. And that's the number that we have on a jury, right?   Yeah, that's right. If we had juries. Do we have them? 12 angry men.   Oh,   yeah. And,   yeah. Well, 12 seems okay. I'm I'm interested in it as a dynamic because if you're gonna build sort of large movement you know, like, when people go on marches and stuff, everything obviously naturally fractures into little clusters.   And it seems to me that there's probably a size, an optimum size for groups. I keep thinking of 7, maybe 8,   maybe 9. Maybe it's as big as 9.  

Something about that kind of a single digit number. When it gets a little bit bigger, you you automatically   get 2 or more groups building up because   I mean, imagine if you got 50 of you in your room, and they said, look. This chap's gonna speak first. You're you're number 50. You might be waiting   25 minutes. And that kind   of inability to talk in a timely way,   causes little fractures into sort of groups, unless it's I guess, it's an official meeting, you know, with some orator at the front, which is, I guess, where we end up going, you know, with all that kind of stuff.  

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But the Delphi technique,   is   something that councils use now.  

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And Is it?  

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Yes. And what they do,   is suppose in this, they're gonna build, let's say, for example, a sewage farm in the middle of a housing estate. Okay? Something that nobody really wants.   So they'll use the Delphi technique where,   it's decided it's gonna ex be,   approved planning   beforehand, but then they'll have a public inquiry, and they'll have facilitators.   And they then divide people up, and they have facilitators   that are heads of these groups.   And they turn it around as if the sewage farm is gonna be the greatest thing ever and anybody that can see through it will be then put into a separate group   and separated   from the other the other group, and they'll be worked on. Yep. And   that is how they that's why you have these public inquiries.  

And that's how they work them. It's it's an absolute I wouldn't say joke.   You can see straight through it, but unfortunately, Joe Public, who's never come up against anything like this before,   will be will think, oh, woah. Hang on. This is all being done correct and democratically when it isn't because it's a foregone conclusion before it starts. And that was,   worked out in the early fifties.  

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That's it. That's it. You you've nailed it. I think that's that's that's really good. Thanks for that, Eric. There's a comment as well in the chat from kitty rat 100.   I don't know where the rats come from, but they're they're in.   Kitty rat 100 writes, Delphi technique is, I think, what they use at council meetings. So this was in before you started saying that. So this is brilliant. At council meetings, for example, its goal is to produce a foregone conclusion with interlopers   swinging the direction of the debate and outcome. Yep.   There's something it's it's obviously an artificial communications environment   that most people are led to believe,   is genuine.  

I mean, you could say that just about everything that we're doing these days. You know, it's all about this kind of deceit thing, isn't it? Speaking of which, yeah, yeah, I've got a I think I've got a little clip here that might be appropriate to play,   about   about this. This is from a little while back. I was just stumbling around today looking for things as you do. This is a couple of minutes long, but I quite like this. Yet again, there's football in this one. Okay?  

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Couple out of this. This is 2 minutes and 11 seconds. Just what this guy says, and it touches on so many areas. This is like, oh my god. What kind of fantasy are you in? What did the television tell you? The main thing that the parasite wants more than anything   is that you don't know it's there. I'm gonna say it again, and I'll say it repeatedly forever.   The main thing is deception   that you don't know it's there. So when you start looking at, like, the you like, oh, the president's running the country. Come on. Really? I mean, are we really at that level of consciousness?   The people running the country are deceiving you. So they're they're it's it's   guiding the country by deception.  

That's it's always that. You look at Maradona, the greatest soccer player ever of all time, arguably.   Right? And so they asked him, what do you think is the most important skill in soccer or football?   He said, deception.   Just think about it. Think it through all sports, saw deception, everything.   So the parasite   wants to deceive you. It wants you first of all, you don't know it's there. So that's the best position for the parasites. You're not even doing anything about it.   This group says, oh, we're gonna strike out with something different.   We're not gonna be listening to the that's why I call it the parasite media.  

It is literally parasite media.   The government's obviously parasite.   Every institution is a parasite.   Why what's the student loan debt? Well, they went and got an education. There's all this debt because the whole thing was a parasitical operation. Didn't teach you any useful skills, so you can't pay the debt off. Parasitical.   We could go on and on and on. Right? We can't keep the wheat standing up with all the chemicals, so we have to spray even another chemical to keep it standing up. All this stuff is parasitical.   You leave that that GMO wheat out there to for mother nature, net mother nature will devastate, destroy it instantly. It come right through that farmer's fence line and wreck everything   instantly and get it all back to normal.  

So the parasite   is being propped up by today   by the technology.   That's the whole thing. So we use the technology   precisely what we're doing right now. Me talking to you from wherever you are in the world is precisely   the right thing to do, to alert you that the parasites are there and to do something about it.  

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What do you think about that, lads and lessors?  

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Spot on. However.  

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It is. Yeah. Absolutely spot on. It is. It makes you wonder what sports aren't about this evening, which which sports don't require that. You know, I'm thinking of bowling for some reason, like, because it's like  

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What? You mean, 10th in bowling?  

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Oh, however.  

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But it does. It isn't that psychological   I mean, I think sport would be useless without it. It's I mean,   isn't   I remember John McEnroe talking about cheating in sport, and an element of it has to be there, and I think it does. I know it sounds but that's not British, is it? It's not cricket.   But, you see, in all these things, you're looking to gain an advantage. Well, how do you do it? I mean, if you wanna win,   isn't that isn't that the the aim of it? I mean, I was I was after I'd heard that, I was thinking of sport where there was no deceit.   And it wouldn't work, would it?  



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I mean No. I mean, I'm trying to How do you Which have the least deceit and which have the most? And I would say something like basketball has a lot of deceit   because you're trying to run the ball. Who do I buy basketball?   I don't know. It's just you you you're trying to defend, you're trying to fake out the the player so he doesn't jump up in front of you and block your ball from going in the hoop?   That kind of thing.  

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Oh, yeah. I mean in soccer Go. Half of the half of the deceit these days in soccer is rolling around on the ground in mock agony because one of the defenders looked at your ankles or something and apparently this is it means your legs nearly broken. But, of course, 35 seconds later, the guy's running around like a Shire horse and all this kind of stuff. I mean, it doesn't stop. Maybe it's one of the I'm you know, that we've got this   I shudder saying it.   The Olympics   thing. Oh, my, Gideon. I don't really want to talk about this too much, but that's coming up, isn't it, in Paris shortly?   Is anybody aware of this? I bet I bet hardly anybody's aware of it. Yeah. Are you aware of it? Apparently, they have this thing called the Olympics every 4 years. It's coming up in Paris.  



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Well, I remember when we had the, because I live quite close to the, where they you You know where they,   rode down? I'm sorry. They paddle down a, looks like an open sewer,  

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on the English lick. What's it with you and the sewers tonight, Eric? There's a lot of sewage stuff. I don't know.  

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I don't know. It's probably because I've had a sort of vegetarian lunch. That might be it. You know? I don't know quite Oh, yeah. That explains it. Vegetarian. Yeah. That explains it. But now I was gonna say is that, that white water rafting. That's it. That's what I did around where I live. And they said, whatever you do,   don't go anywhere near there because it's being absolutely choco.   Like to go to Waltham Abbey, which is the other side of where the white water raft is going on. And I've never seen it so empty. I was driving along the road,   went past the the where this is going on, and there was board security guards outside.  

I was about the only car on the road. I saw one bloke taking his dog for a walk, went to Waltham Abbey, and it was deserted.   Not a soul there. Empty.   And,   I   I know a couple of the shopkeepers there, and they said,   they've never owned it so empty. They haven't seen anybody going to the Olympics. They thought they'd be fantastic trade. Nothing. And I'm just wondering whether,   I don't know, the numb the crowds they said were there were actually there. I do question that because it's I've never seen it so empty.  

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I I don't even know when it's starting. Is it August or something? I guess it must  

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be starting in 2012,  

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a little bit. Alright. Sorry. Okay. I'm being stupid. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know where the current one is. I saw this thing. There was a thing floating around today. You might have seen it about the beds that all the athletes have been equipped with made out of cardboard boxes.   Seriously, have you seen that?  

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No.   Yeah.  

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Now, there were some rather smutty suggestions about this, but we we must go there.   So apparently,   I mean, maybe it's the French just being tight and going, oh, you know, mad. We haven't got any. We run out of levers. Oh, they don't have those anymore. Do they begin tomorrow?   What's that? What's that? They begin tomorrow.   Oh, dear. Do they?   All that running around in circles and things. I mean, I just I I I don't know. It's just it's obviously not for me. You know, I just make these sort of ludicrous observations like the problem with all the running events is that the fastest guy or gal always wins. What's the point of that? I I kind of figured that if there were more deception   in the actual   unfolding of the running events, it'd be much more interesting.  

Because I find them tactically really tedious running events. There's not enough going on. It's just, you know, blokes in running shoes and gals in running shoes, but then,   you know, someone could probably step in and say, you burk. You know, you're reading it all wrong.   I've always preferred cycling in terms of a speedy athlete because there's lots of deception goes on in that. There has to be. There's all sorts of fainting and feigning weakness with a 100 yards to go and then bursting through and all these kinds of things. And it kind of makes it more interesting in a way. But, yes, coming back to this issue of the cardboard beds, and I'm sorry to lower the tone of the conversation   again. I mean, well, we haven't lowered it too much, but there's plenty of time left to go.  

They were saying, apparently,   when the athletes are all in these camps, you see, they get a bit frisky, if you get my drift.   And,   so cardboard beds reduce the heat possibilities   of full friskiness   occurring because   they collapse under the weight of more than one person. Now, am I coming is everybody understanding what I'm saying here? You know, I'm trying to be English and different about  

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it. Haven't heard of bromide? I mean, that's what they used to give the soldiers, wasn't it? Bromide?  

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It it might it might impact   it might impair their athletic performance, Eric, had you not thought about that?  

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I mean, I haven't thought about that. But I actually think we should have our own   event, and that would be political freestyle bullshit. I mean,   our team of, politicians will be brilliant at it. We we would be gold medalists in this country. Although, I think America would be a close   you know, I think they might win. What what do you think? A a freestyle bullshitting. Yeah. Yeah. I think we've got you beat.  

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Yeah. I mean, come on. We just had a a an interesting deception take place not that long ago.  

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You think? Oh. Yeah. We were talking about the shooting.   Yeah. But I've just thought of something. The best of British bullshit sounds great to me. That's really good. Yeah. Yeah. It is. Yeah. Yeah. We could have a The PBS.   The PBS. The best British bullshit. There you go. Best Yeah. This yeah. We could put it as a little stamp on all these speeches, newspapers. Best of British bullshit,   you know,   approved by the Committee of Liars.  

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B o b e s.  

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Guaranteed quality of complete crap from start to finish. 100% garbage. There you go.   Yeah. Yeah. Well, maybe if we set that regulatory authority, up, we can charge a fee for it. Isn't that the sort of scam that they would do? Oh, you need to be approved for that. Way. Is it? Tony  

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Tony Blair will give the Americans a run for their money. I'm sure he would. He's he's a ice bullshitter. He is, you know who would who would the Americans put up against Tony Blair? Let's face it. That that Well, maybe we could break it down into weight divisions like in boxing.  

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Right? Do you think you have some weight cat   weight categories?  

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You know, so fly flyweight bullshit, heavy weight bullshit, and then super heavyweight. The super heavyweight bullshit is be, you know, the Well, wait a second. We had Clinton in when Tony Blair was around. And he his his big thing was that all all it all depends on what the definition of is is.   Yeah. It was. Come on. Yeah. I I did not have sexual relations  

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with that woman,   miss miss Lewinsky.  

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Yeah. Particularly not on a cardboard bed, he didn't. I,   yeah. Exactly. I know. I think, Patrick, you might have won what by   pulling Clinton out the draw.   He's still alive, isn't he? Isn't he still alive? Oh, yes. Just. Yeah. He's still kicking. Just.  

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Kicking what? I have no idea. Because you know he's he's of English descent, don't you? I think his family originated from Steyns   in England.  

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Who's Think about it. Lord only. Clinton. Oh, steady on Eric. This is a family show.   Yeah. Well, it's a place, isn't it? It's in Middlesex, Staines, isn't it? Middlesex Stains. Yes. It is. Yeah. It is. It's an English place name. Look it up on Google. I know. Wrong with that. See anything Do you remember? Our American friends our American friends will not be aware of what of what of this television program, but you will, Eric, and I'm sure. Mhmm. Do you remember Captain Pugwash?  

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Oh, yes.  

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That's enough. We better not go there.  

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I'm still good. I'm still trying to get my arms around Fawlty Towers.  

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Well, I gotta tell you about captain Pugwash. Eric sparked it off by using the word stains, which is a place in Middlesex. Right? But,   this was a kids   TV program about 5 minutes long. It used to run at the end of the afternoon prior to the evening news. It was the la it was sort of like, okay, children. This is the last of the programming for you. It's all all adult edium from now on. That was really, you know, the sort of thing.   And I remember watching it innocently,   innocently,   Eric,   as a young chap.   Same here. Eric, maybe you'd like to tell people the names of some of the characters   in that in that little 5 minute show.  



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We won't get banned, will we? No. It's quite interesting. There was a seaman Semen Stains, wasn't there? This is true.   Yes. Right. He's a sailor. Yeah. And what was the other one? Seaman Steins, there was,  

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there was Roger the cabin boy.  

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Oh, yes. Roger the cabin boy. Do you get That  

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So whoever was making that show, they were having a laugh at our expense,  

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really.   You think?  

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I think so, Paul. Yeah. I I really do. I really think I really think they were. Mind you, the the Fockham prime minister is a cat  

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called   his surname is Ring, and his first name is Roger. And he asked me to know as Roger Ring the Cat because  

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lots of diplomats like Roger ring the cat apparently. So, you know, nothing wrong there, is there? Well, there's probably a bit of that going on in the Olympic Village right now. I think I think I think there'll be plenty of that. Something's going on over there,   before they all start running around and jumping up down and picking weights up and doing stuff. Actually, I will probably watch the track cycling, because I think track cycling's fantastic.   But that's just just me. I'll watch a bit of that, Sado that I am. But,   yes.  

Yeah. So that that's quite interesting. Now going back to you touched upon it a few minutes ago,   Patrick and Paul.   We talked about it briefly last week. This   the dust has settled a bit more. A lot of people have come out with lots of analysis about this, But this event with mister Trump a couple of weeks ago with his ears   bleeding all over the place,  

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any further thoughts since that's happened? What where's where's your head at now with it? I don't know. The the weirdest thing I've seen is The Economist Magazine cover with Trump on the front, and he's in the Alfred Hitchcock   silhouette,   and and there's a question mark where his ear would have been.   So I I don't know. You know how they kind of project things into the future, what they're gonna do, or   or it's just pure serendipity that it took place. But it was the future of   20 24 was the the title of the, Economist Magazine. So I thought that was kinda weird.  

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Yep.   Yep. I think the whole thing's weird. I think it's designed   we're in the we're in the period of great weirdness. Paul,  

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you're about to been very difficult to do   because   because that that magazine cover   would have been,   blocked up   long before   the event.  

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Long before. Yeah. Exactly.  

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That's interesting.  

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Do you think   it's,   a genuine event? I mean, I don't. I don't know quite ultimately what I mean by that, but I think Is  

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is is a professional wrestling,  

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a I know. Come on. A legitimate event.  

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Come on. They had they had Hulk Hogan speak and introduce him. Come on. And then he ripped his shirt open.  

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Yeah. I'm I'm glad he ripped his shirt open. Just to get the point across. Because if he hadn't, then nobody would have believed him. But because he ripped his shirt over and it makes it true, doesn't it? He must rip your shirt up. I think, you know, I was speaking to someone the other day, made a really good point. She said to me,   if they'd wanted him dead,   he'd be dead. Wouldn't he? Mhmm. Really?   I mean, in this well, the last one that kind of looked as they had genuinely gone wrong,   was the shooting of Reagan.   That looked as though I mean, that was sort of the technology of assassin   attempts at the time. Although, I don't know too much about Hinkley, and he was supposed to be mind controlled and all that. Yeah.  



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It comes to mind that, they they had that debate, and then they saw that Biden's cognitive abilities were so crap   that they had to do something about it. Oh, I thought he did rather well, actually. Everyone was,   well, if you think about it, the media   has been complicit in just building them up. And, oh, he's okay. He's not stupid. You know, he's not deteriorating or anything like that. Yeah. He's not stupid. It just totally ruins their credibility.   If if he were just a cold turkey, quit the presidency and quit or quit quit running for the for the next election,   I think   in a large event like that makes it a lot easier for for them to take him and kind of shove him to the side of the stage.  



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Yeah.  

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I think that's   part to play. And I think with politics, it's the Yuna party, so   there's definitely   No. You're such a cynic, Patrick.   I   well,  

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it's prove me prove me wrong. I'd rather not, No. I think I'll I'll hang around with you. I'm I'm tending to drift that way. By the way, Paul, I put a a song request came through from Warren, and I've stuck it in,   Skype for you, announcing what it is. Okay. You don't I mean, if you if you if you're happy here, don't go do anything because I can find it anyway. Okay? So you don't have to do anything.   You just if you're not gonna do it, that's cool. I can dig it up anyway, so it's cool.   Well, actually, I did have I had a song request, but I'm not No. No. No. Yours. Come on. Oli, this is Warren. He gets a song request every week. You you'll get your song, Warren. Don't worry. We'll get that. What have you got one lined up, Paul? Have you have you got have you got something for all of us? Not quite yet. Not quite yet. Very close. Okay. But I'm I'm actually not sure if we could do this song on, WBN.  

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I don't know.  

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Alright. Steady. Hang on. I've got to, you know, I've got my, I've got me pension to think about.  

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Steady. What about the arts and what about Randy Scouse Skip by The Monkees? Because you know the story of that. What happened is, there was   a program called, till death is depart in this country   with Alf Garnet. Now if as you're Americans, you probably wouldn't know that show. It's really English humor.  

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And Is it Archie Bunker?  

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Is it? Simmer. Archie   Bunker was based on I think it's based on that. And   of the family. There was,   someone from Liverpool is called a Scouser,   and there was a Liverpudlian   who was down in London,   and Alf Garnett used to call him a Randy Scouser git. Well, in America,   that's not   rude. But in Britain, it was a bit rude.   And one of the chaps from The Monkees come over here and he started watching that program and he liked it. And he wrote this record he wrote this song called Randy Scouse Skip. And when they went to publish it, they had to change the name in this country   because I was gonna publish it. They said, oh, no. It's Rube. We can't put it there, you know. And, that is the story. But now it's okay. But in the sixties, you know, it's a little bit sort of, what is it? Do you know what they changed the title to, Eric?  



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Frisky man from Liverpool?  

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Might have been. I can't remember what it was that what they changed the title too. But they did have to change the title. Nowadays, they wouldn't. But then they did because, you know, couldn't even say bloody on the radio or the television in those days. It was, oh, you know, very frowned upon. But that is the story of the monkey's chart,   record Randy Scouse git.   So that's it.  

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Well, I I I think we're holding our end up here by not using any smutty language.   Oh, hang on just a minute. I might have got that wrong. But, yeah.   Yes. Yeah. You couldn't use bloody, could you, on the on the TV? Now that was a bit Oh, no. No? Because he had to say,  

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silly moo instead of silly cow. And what was the other one? Ruddy. That was another one. He mustn't say bloody. Ruddy with an r. Yeah. Always very pish posh. And, he used to actually that the scriptwriter   had to actually trade   swear words. He's only allowed so many a week. So  

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it's like John yeah. That was John Johnny Spate, wasn't it? Johnny Spate was the Yeah. Was the writer for that. Yeah.   I used to find it very depressing. I couldn't watch it. I know it was kind of funny, but it was so mawkish. The their furniture was so   depressing to look at. They were so such a flea bitten sort of thing that they were living in. It was funny, but it was it was just a bit too grown up for me. I didn't find it playful enough. It wasn't mad enough, but they are it's a very interesting sort of half comedy, half social commentary sort of thing. And there's that wonderful one, which I've not been able to dig dig up with, Dandy Nicholls, who played,   Alf missus Garnett, Alf Garnett's wife, where she's talking to her daughter, Eunice Stubbs,   about the government. You know, my uncle Stan   says they're trying to cull us and and that we're nothing but an embarrassment them. Have you seen that clip? I've gotta dig it up for the show. Yes. I have. Wonderful. It's absolutely spot on. It's a brilliant  

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but I agree with you. I found it depressing along with 1 foot in the grave. I think that depressing as well. I couldn't watch it. I just found it just I didn't find it funny.  

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No. I did with We're sensitive sorts, aren't we, Eric? We're quite sensitive, aren't we? Yeah. Yes. Yes. Sensitive  

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souls, you know.   But,   I I think, though, you know, back to that, you know, that, Delphi technique. I don't wanna sort of label the point, but I actually got involved on a project once   where that was used.   And,   some friends of mine, it was should we say it's in the East Midlands. I won't   say exactly where it was because I don't wanna end up, with concrete boots at the bottom of a river. But what happened there, there was,   a beautiful meadow,   and a a place of outstanding beauty,   And everyone was against them building a housing estate on this meadow.   And   the developers knew there was,   you know, gonna rap against,   terrible,   opposition.  

Yeah. And the council   wanted this housing estate bill as well. So what they did is,   suddenly,   a lot of strange people from London appeared on the scene   who were against the housing estate, who against this meadow being built on. And that, and they were very polite. They've actually spoken nicely like this. And so they went up to the the,   protesters and people and said, oh, hello. Your name's Margaret, isn't it? Oh, yes. Yes. Well, and that is all false. And I thought, hang on. Hang on. What's going on? Then suddenly,   there was a planning submission   for an industrial building to be built on this site,   and   what happened I'll I'll I'm very condensing this. I don't wanna bore everybody.  

And this this must the plans must have been drawn up by the office junior, and they were the most rubbish plans I've ever seen.   And then suddenly,   this group said, we're gonna stop this. This is terrible. We can't have this. And they fought tooth and nail on behalf of the local people.   And at 11th   hour,   the council   rejected it. And they said, oh, it's marvelous. But what they're going to do is some fantastic housing,   local houses for local people.   They were tricked.   Right. And they twisted it in such a way that the original protesters, if anybody would have stood hang on them, it's just a trick, they would have got the   the the majority of people against them. And that's how they turn people's minds.  

That's that they did a little bell up to like a cult. And this cult was highly against   the industrial building. Yes. And that was just a ploy.   But aren't these people marvelous from London? Because they managed to get local housing for local people and that's how they got it through. Yeah. Absolutely   complete trick. I could see it right the way through.   And I thought because, you know Deceit,  

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aye? Deceit, Eric.   Deceit. Yeah.   Somebody sent in a YouTube,   I think it might have been Warren again. I'm gonna play this now because it's only 2 minutes long. You I think you mentioned this the other week, this song. Right?   So because we're into the first hour just we've run over by 2 minutes. You're listening to Paul English live   here at WBN 324.   We're here every Thursday,   3 PM to 5 PM in the US. 8 PM to 10 PM, and beyond   in the UK because we often run on for   a little while on on the Rumble chat.   I have never heard this before.   Right? This might be dreadful.  

But, at least, if it is dreadful, it's only 2 minutes and 32 seconds long. And seeing as I didn't pick it, I will if it's really, really bad, we'll find out who did, and then we can we can be very bad in the chat. No. This is by Tommy Cooper. You mentioned this. Here we go. And,  

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we'll be back. I know what's coming up.  

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Right. Okay. So that's that's enough. It's worth it just to get you laugh, Harry. Here we go. Tommy Cooper for 2 and a half minutes, and we'll be back after  

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this. Right. Here we go then. Right. Here we are then. Right.   That's it.   Right. I'll take over now, boys.   Right? I'll take over. Right?   Here we go then. Leave it to me now.   I should get it in a minute.   Daddy came home from work tired.   The boss had been driving him mad.   The kids started   fighting.   The dog bit him too.   His dinner was nothing but warmed over stew.   I guess it was then he decided.   Up to the rooftop he'll go.   He was about to jump off   when   the kids started howling  

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below.  

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Oh, done.   Jump off the roof,   all,   dad Won't you please give us a break   Just take a walk to the park,   dad.   And then you can jump in the lake.   Here we go, boys. Here   Won't you please give us a break?   Just take a walk to the   park,   dad, and there, you can   jump in the   lake.   3 4 radio.  

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So there you have it everyone. Don't jump off of the roof, dad.   Don't do it.   Was that the song you were thinking of, Eric?  

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Yes. That was the one. The exact one. It's real black humor, isn't it?  

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1961, I was 1 years of age back when I was I'd never heard that before. Never never heard it. And, Tommy's infectious laugh, the great old Tommy Cooper, the man with the fez.   So, yeah, cracking. So we all loved it. I think that was Warren put that one in as well, actually. So thanks, Warren, for that. And if I've got it wrong,   yeah.   Absolutely. Brilliant. Brilliant. Brilliant. Brilliant. Oh, was it you? Did you put that one in, Patrick?  

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That that was me. Oh, look at me.  

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Well, I'm terribly sorry, Patrick, for, you know, sending the kudos elsewhere.  

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Great choice. No worries. No. It's cool. There's also Charlie Drake, isn't there? Was what what was it,   the Australian one with that with with Charlie Drake? That's pretty dreadful, that is.  

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There's a there's a oh, now I have to look up the Australian version?  

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No. You don't. We don't.   You don't after that. And hopping up and down round the topics because I like doing this because it's fun.   You know, we were talking about Captain Pugwash. There was so we had the two names. There was another really   terrible name that we missed.   Yeah. Yeah. So we had,   we had, Roger the cabin boy, didn't we? And, the other one whose name I forget.   But there was Simon Stains. Simon Stains, and there was also Master Bates.  

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That was the one I forgot. Yes. Thanks, XO.  

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XO didn't forget,   did you? No. Brilliant.  

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I assume you never got that in America.   No. You never got that in America? Oh. Oh, yeah.   Did you ever get the magic roundabout? Something close to that. Yeah. Do you ever get the magic roundabout? That was supposed to be rude, but I could never see anything rude in it. Could you? What? Magic roundabout?   Yeah.   There's supposed to be a  

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a a a double entendre on that. I I can't see it. Perhaps, I'm just innocent. Maybe life is a double entendre. Maybe everything is just basically a big smutty joke, and we've just not worked it out yet.   Oh, yes. I don't know. Could be. Could   be. Yeah. Magic Roundabout was yeah? Paul. Hi.  

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Check Skype.  

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Look at me checking Skype. You can't actually. Your service is all I sent. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm looking.   Oh, cool.   So,   alright. And the second one is the one that that you wanted us we'll do that in we'll do that shortly. Okay? So cool.  

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The second one's my suggestion.   Yeah. And it goes right along with what you were just talking about.  

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Does it? Is it? Was it? But we'll have to have a am I allowed to do 2 songs at once? It's silly. Now we've got to do a bit of talking, then we'll come to a song in another 15 minutes or so. So remember, this is a shambolic production, intentionally so, because we haven't got time to do anything else. So that's pretty cool. And were we talking about anything intelligent before Tommy Cooper arrived on the scene? We must have been. You were talking about sewage again or something, Eric, were you?  

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Yes. Yes.   Because,   what was it? Well, I was talking about the Delphi technique. Yeah. We were. It was actually spreading around the world.   And, a person that I believe, and this is, allegedly,   is Tony Blair. He's he's doing a kind of Delphi technique.   He's selling sort of bullshit to different nations. I mean, how he gets his money, I do not know.   But he's got this sort of, like, this technique.   What we have that,   for example,   if they was going to build us well, let's go back to the sewage farm,   outside your house.   They'd say, well, how many times do you leave your house? Okay. That's once a day, twice a day. So you're only gonna see in this sewage farm for about 20 seconds a day.  

So in an entire year, all you'll be seeing of that Swedish farm is about an hour.   That's nothing much to worry about. So what are you complaining about? That's how they turn things around. Mhmm. They they they kind of alter   the parameters.   And this is why everything's going to pot because  

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It's politics. It's kind of the way that your the parliament works and or the congress here works. You know, you you just I don't know if you can really use the word works though, Patrick. I mean, I know where you're coming from, but Well, it works to fool people. Yeah. It does. I mean, it doesn't actually work to actually achieve what it says on the tin. I mean, I actually don't even know what it says on the tin these days. They're probably just overtly telling you that we're here to wreck everything because that's obviously what they're here to do,   and and they're not doing anything   that any people want. One of the things, although I haven't got around to it, you know, with these people that I keep bumping into,   both in wards, at hospitals, and elsewhere,   is just some, you know, a little probing question   or I'll make comments, you know, about the state of the country just to see how they respond all the time. It's difficult to know with everybody. And some people that are very long in the tooth, I guess they've hit that point where they think there's there's   so little I can do about it. But you can see that there's a little pain going on, you know, with the complete   rewiring   supposedly of the nation. But I I keep getting drawn into this thing that resisting it is really counterproductive   because   it means that we are,   to a great degree, kind of obsessing over it, looking at it. And I accept that to a great degree, you can't ignore it totally because we've got to look at   just what latest nonsense they're up to. But it does continually follow this same repeated pattern   of saying one thing on Monday then contradicting it on Thursday then going back again the following Tuesday. And all the time, everything's being nudged incrementally,   nearer and nearer to the abyss of the management of all this kind of stuff. The the way that no one can actually fully address on an adult level   the migrant crisis, and it's not that, of course,   they call it that, but they can't address it properly. No one's able to get further into the conversation without some reactive burke   in there. So the, you know, tossing these cookies out the window and going crazy over things. You can't talk like that. You're a racist. All these sorts of other things. And until those sorts of little hurdles are overcome,   it's not possible to have adult conversations about this and take responsibility for the situation   to affect it, to pull it back to where it needs to be.  

And I think about that a lot, obviously. I should imagine many listeners here,   don't want to think about it a lot. I don't really want to think about it too much because you you end up sort of confronting your own ineptitude in the face of it. But but without a growing crowd behind it,   it's it's all down to this communication stuff,   which is not simply just the words that we say, but it's these platforms,   it's what people are imbibing,   you know.   And for me, the last week, having been out of the house a bit and having a very different sort of month, this month has lasted longer.   You know how the days fly by? And I thought, well, obviously, a key part of that is,   a good a goodly part of my day, too big a part of my day is spent   absorbing the streams of this sort of bilge that comes across.  

There's loads of Telegram channels. Many of them are really, really good. You get a lot of repetition of posts, but there's some brilliant stuff in there. And on Twitter from time to time, I look out on Twitter even though that's a bit of an odd platform. Can't make my mind up on that one either.   And I spud most people here are not Twitterists or whatever they call these days.   Did and speaking of that, did anybody hear that,   exchange between Elon Musk   and, Peterson?   I'm not a fan of Peterson either.   Did you hear that one about Musk talking about what had happened to suppose to his son? Did you hear that one?   No. I briefly heard some clips from Let me play this. This is brief. I want because this is I found this odd and strange.  

So this goes into the odd strange clips bit.   So it's Jordan Peterson.   I think it's a short extract from, obviously, probably a longer interview with Elon Musk, which appears to be quite recently, and they're talking about,   well, you just listen to this. You see, so that's So I was I was straight into doing this,  

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and,  

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you know, it wasn't explained to me that puberty blockers are actually just sterilization drugs.   So,   anyway,   and so I lost my son essentially.   So, you know, they,   they call it deadnaming for a reason. Yeah. Right.   Alright. So the the reason it's called deadnaming is because,   your son is dead.   So my son Xavier is dead,   killed by the woke blind virus.  

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I'm sorry to hear that. Yeah. I can't imagine what that would be like.   Yeah. So,   Yeah. And there's lots of people in that situation now. Right. It's not pretty and lots of demolished kids.   Yes.   Yeah. Well, that's a good that's a good reason to be the final straw.  

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Alright. So let's So I vowed to destroy the mind the woke virus after   that. And we're making some progress.  

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Join the club. Yeah.   So that's Musk   talking about,   the the blurb under the clip is this. This is obviously heavy stuff, but it's going on with people,   With Musk, it says my just reading back from what he was just saying there.   He says, my son is dead, killed by the woke mind virus. Elon Musk talks about being tricked into signing documents to allow his son to take puberty blockers.   And what he was saying there is that they're not puberty blockers. They literally destroy,   in his case, maleness. It's destroyed.   And he says he went on to say, I vowed to destroy the woke mind virus after that, and we are making some progress.  

And, I was talking to someone about this. I think it's,   it just requires a bit of thought. I mean, he's got multiple wives, I think. Probably multiple children by multiple wives. If we are to buy the story about him, he's a highly intelligent man. He does strike me as that. He's got that kind of odd,   speech pattern that kind of indicates a different kind of mind processing going on. I've always thought that about him, and I suppose that's not a particularly original thought. Maybe it's occurred to you guys too.   And then I was thinking I was talking to someone. They said, well, maybe, you know, it was his wife   that was making the decision about this.  

It's it's a situation that is literally so alien   and,   bizarre   that anybody would even think it's worthwhile considering   these things, that you would even allow anything like this to happen   to the to actually and not to get over that, the most precious thing that you're likely to ever receive in your life,   which is a son or a daughter.   Why?   How are people allowing themselves, if that that's probably a badly phrased way, How do you think this is coming about that people are so deceived by apparently some group agreement that they allow this to be done   to, as I said, to probably the most precious gift you're gonna get. I know some people go, yeah. Well, children are a handful. Well, of course, You were 1 too, you know. This is all part of it. But to have that happen   is strange. And if that's true,   does this indicate that Twitter stroke x   is,   some kind of a space? And then yet again, I think there's always 6 of 1 and half a dozen of the other. They sort of give with one hand and take away and ask for other   other things with the other hand, you know. So you end up going, I can't really figure this out, which I think is really the ultimate purpose of nearly all of these things.  

Any any sort of views on that, guys?  

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Well, I think it's demonic. I really do.   You may think I'm a bit of a cranky at what I'm going to say,   but I actually think that these people,   who are masterminding all this   are demonic. There is something that has taken them over in their mind. They're not sane.   Although, sanity is a different subject,   but I've seen   people that have been taken over by something, whatever it is. I mean, I know that Jerry Milwinski looks into this a lot   And,   was a leading authority on it.   Because   people   seem to adhere to a cult.   So when you start a cult of, sex changes and things like that, people will adhere to it.  

And I actually do believe that people could be hypnotized   by psychopaths,   demonic people, and things like that. I I've witnessed it myself. Has anybody else witnessed it? In offices where they've worked or anywhere where they've been where Yes. Everybody would be fine, then suddenly a a psychopath or someone that's   been possessed by something will walk in,   the whole atmosphere changes. And it's all to do with frequency as well. So so,   you were sort of saying, Patrick?  

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Well, I was gonna say it it all goes back to the evil Nazis. Right? There everything that gets projected   on them somehow in the whole World War II era,   somehow is what's happening today   in that regard.   And the people doing it are masters of projection.   They're projecting their own   evil doings onto   some historical figure boogeyman type of thing that we're all supposed to fear.  

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What? Corti Nazi syndrome? Yeah. Well,  

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think of the eugenics   the eugenics program. Right? That,   actually started in places, you know, it   it wasn't just Germany, it was all over the place. It was America.   America.   Yeah. Yeah. And   here here, it's   basically,   sterile like you were saying, sterilization   program.   It's just an updated form of the old sterilization programs, the unwanted,   the people that they consider unfit to breed,   sort of sort of mentality.   It goes back to the 19th century   and probably before that too. But, it's also the overpopulation  

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idea because communism   always has the same traits. It's always environmental issues.   Malthusianism.   Right.   Stalin,   Mao, they were both into environment, fight viron environmentalism.   And their obsession   with genocide because they believe that was overpopulated,   which we're not.   And we're not likely to be because we're actually facing extinction. We're not having we're not having enough children.   And they written that   humanity is just being wiped out by this,   because nature has a way of keeping the balances right, correctly done. But there's been a a,   population reduction since the end of the First World War, and it was known about in the 19 thirties. And that's why,   in Germany, they're trying to increase the population.  

There's just about enough men to fight in the 2nd World War because so many have been wiped out in the First World War.   So communism   always   has the same agendas   every time.   Every single time. It's always environmental and population reduction.  

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That's what I'm gonna do. And Elon Musk has that kind of personality where it's like it's like he's he's one of the richest men in the in the world supposedly,   and yet he seems very unconfident of himself. He has to very he he measures his speech, he he he takes a long time to think about it, and it's just like he should be right up on top of the world telling people what to do.   Yeah. I think he's a good actor.  

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Yeah.   It's a very it's a very odd communication   style.   It it really some really interesting comments,   which I'm gonna read out now from the chat. Some good stuff. All part of this.   Kitty Rat writes about the 1923 Calurgi plan, and then mentions Judas Peterson,   used to write papers for the UN on global warming. He's a shill billy. Yep. He is.   I was talking to someone about it the other day. You ever seen that picture of Peterson?   This is before he was, you know, all pumped up and everything. I find him exhaustingly dull.   He sat in his flat somewhere in front of an image of the Russian Revolution. You've seen that,   Lenin? Yes. I've seen it. Well, as soon as I saw that, I just, someone was trying to tell me to listen to him at the time. I said, no. They said, why not? I said, because I've seen this picture. Anybody that puts a picture like that up is obviously mentally unhinged to start off with. There's literally no redeeming qualities   in that so called ideology at all. It's one of the most the biggest bloodletting of all time. So, you know He's into the modern art type abstract Picasso type stuff like that. Well, he's Canadian and I don't mean to insult all Canadians, but he he's he's beyond he's just tiresome, you know. Listen to me and my long complicated sentences. No, thanks. I've got to go to the toilet. We've got something useful to do, you know.  

And Billy Silva writes, he says,   I had 2 questions after listening to that clip that we just heard. 1,   could Musk be that deluded,   indeed?   Although, you know, we don't know the full background. Is it a genuine clip? Is he just, oh, right, Elon. This is you've got to go on and do this. I mean, it's almost impossible to tell with these things. And why are people   still interested in Peterson? Search me, Billy. I have no idea. I have I have no idea at all.  

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Because the media backs him. Of course. He had that famous meeting with Netanyahu and and Benjamin Shapiro.   Yeah. So he's, he's compromised.  

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Yeah. And this reinforces what you say. Billy goes on to say a further comment. He said Musk couldn't be that successful and be that easy to delude. I agree. This is why there's something odd. Then again, I think his position is staged.   There's something very very strange about all this. He was sending rockets to the moon 2 or 3 years ago, wasn't he? Or whatever he's doing, SpaceX.   No one hears anything about that now. What was that all about? Was that to big him up as sort of like the Dan Dare or the rocket scientist that the world needs to save us, you know? And then he he comes in, and now it's all about x and stuff like this. Very, very odd. He could just start with PayPal,  

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which is like a digital currency type He did. Exchange? Yep. He did. The original. With Peter Thiel,  

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who's,   also, you know, not worth the paper he's printed on,   old billionaires and stuff. Yeah. He took his he took his money from that to to set up SpaceX, didn't he? That's what he did. I wonder how that PayPal's  

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go ahead.   Sorry. Very quick. I I don't trust anybody in the public eye. I think it's all a pain to mine, and it's all there for,   social engineers.   Social engineers are meddling with their brains, and these   I'd say that everybody,   with the exception of maybe a few in the public eye,   are just puppets. That's it. So I was all about to say on that one, you know.  

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Yeah.   Yeah. I think you're right. Well,  

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the history of PayPal is, I I remember it was connected with eBay,   the auction online auction site back in the late nineties.   It was quite, you know, up and coming,   and that's when I first heard about it anyway.   It's just   interesting how that came about because then later we have things like Bitcoin. And I remember   during the start of the Ukraine war and the rush with Russia,   the the current iteration of it, they completely got rid of PayPal   in Russia. But now   Bitcoin seems to be the way to transact between,   you know, warring factions of people. It's it's just kinda odd how that works.  



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Mhmm.   Yeah. Anyway, and that's something I noticed. When you look at people though in the public eye,   most of them are haven't got talent. They're just pushed there.   I don't wanna mention any names because I I don't particularly want to, end up in court. But there's,   an English actor   who's supposed to be an actor who he's actually doesn't act. He just stands there and says the lions. And then when we had this COVID lock down, who was sitting there trying to push the jabs?   This actor and all the people   that were pushing this COVID jab were talent   less. And I think it's a case of, oh, we'll make you famous providing you do something for us. And I think they're actually,   black malleable and put in a compromised position.  

That you know, I really do believe that.   So I just wonder what anybody else thinks about that.  

[01:27:19] Unknown:

I think that's pretty close to it, Eric.   I think that's pretty close to it. It's I mean, you know, they're bombarding us. It's amazing. The bombardment is from every single angle and in every ding every single sort of space.   Because everything feels   false. Practically everything feels false. There's a kind of ethereal bogus quality to every single communication.   And you think, can these people at work, for example, at the BBC or these mainstream   actually believe what they say? Do they can they think? And you have to really think that they can't think. I mean, they're not they don't have any sort   of ability to consider what they're saying and what they are supposedly supporting, and they have to be compromised. There's no   other there's no other way really to deal it. You know, they're part of the deceit process that that guy was addressing in general terms. It's a parasitical media and it's deceitful. And, of course, the alternative media, if we are part of it, and I guess we are,   has swelled enormously over the COVID period. You got tons and tons of people putting things out,   often with very outrageous or challenging new ideas just discovered.  

And I think half of it, if not most of it, is just let's come up with some new wacky theory about things and start pushing that out because that'll draw more eyeballs or earlobes or whatever you want to start listening to this. And I think, you know, because they're not ever short of funding,   having now studied what the alternative podcasting space and radio space is like,   That's been going on. I'm not gonna name on it. I can't think of it off the top of my head. But there does seem to be sort of a glut. Tons and tons of shows that everyone wanted to tell you all these sorts of things that many   of us, tediously, of course, have known for an awful long time. Or maybe they're just super talented. They deserve all this stuff. But I'm thinking of certain individuals where I just think,   why is your show like this? Why are you not really addressing certain things? I mean, this is kind of a lightweight show in a way. It's meant to be It's meant to be breezy and it's meant to be a bit of relief during the week. Certainly, you know, in many ways to put some jocularity into our space and a little bit of entertainment as we also try to address a few heavy issues because they're out there, you know. They're absolutely out there, and we've got to address them from time to time.  



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Yeah. But it's no coincidence   that when they started to destroy the family unit, soap operas became very popular.   And it's almost at the same time. So what Melodrama.   That's right.   So what's happened now   is people are looking on these soaps   as part of their family. I mean, my sister is the complete opposite of me, who I haven't seen for years. She you would talk to her and she would say, oh, old Trevor. He's having a bit of trouble this week. He say, who's driving? Of the factory. Don't watch Coronation Street, do you? I said, I don't watch any soaps.   Oh, and she would actually be in mourning if someone died on the soap. And she literally looked she couldn't give a jot about my parents.  

Her own family would mean nothing to her. But these soaps may seem to mean more to her than reality.  

[01:30:14] Unknown:

Yeah. They present us family. They present us with these false heroes.   Whether in the alternative media or the mainstream media, we were supposed to have these heroes, heroic figures, and,   say the right wing. Alright? They got   Trump and Tucker Carlson and all these people that you could list.   And and they're presented as heroes, but they're not really heroes, they're just it's fabricated. It's it's controlled. And even in the alternative media, you have different people   that kind of take over and and seem to have unlimited fund funding and drug companies swooning at their, you know,  

[01:30:51] Unknown:

to work with us. Well, that's just what what what How do they get all those lights and those lovely studios   with their ribbon microphones and their sound protected booths? How do they get all that overnight?   I've I think about this here. It's as if it's easy to do this stuff. It isn't. It isn't easy. I mean, it is straightforward, but I don't mean to say it's easy. But you need resources and time, and you generally need a team to do it because you just go flat otherwise.   So   all that kind of stuff is is just part of this, you know, the ongoing sort of deception stuff. Absolutely.  

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There's a hell of a whole heart. Easy with mine. I'm sorry.   Yeah. You're right. Is it?  

[01:31:29] Unknown:

Should we get some? What do you think? Should we get loads of money then? Is that what we're supposed to do? Yes. I think we should. But Alright. Everybody just my mic. Oh, I'd like everybody who's listening to sell their house and all their worldly possessions, and I'll notify you where to send the proceeds next week, really. That's that's gonna solve things, isn't it?  

[01:31:45] Unknown:

Well, all we need is a little bit more gain behind Eric. Eric, you gotta crank that micro microphone gain up because Yeah. You did a bit. Close enough to How do I how do I do that? Hang on a minute. Let's have a look see what I've got. You gotta crank the gain up because I know you're close enough to it because your your pop your p's are popping. So I know you're close enough. It's just not the gain. It's not high. Is that is that better? Is that I'm just gonna move.  

[01:32:09] Unknown:

I'm I'm just to let you know, I've remixed it, Paul, here. I've got you and Patrick turned right down inside the studio,  

[01:32:16] Unknown:

and we've cranked it up on the master so that we can we can get you it's okay, Eric. I know you're being special, but this is fine. We'll we'll get it. So it's it's way way better than it was before. But, yeah, it's not too bad. The thing is it it it'd be touching me tonsils at the minute if I'm much closer than microphone. I'm about half an inch away from it. I keep knocking me nose on it and my teeth on it, you know. Probably Oh, you sound good. Clunk clunk, you know. Oh, it's If that's is that correct? Gain issue. It's a gain issue. You gotta you gotta pump the gain up and, Gain. How do I do that? Hang on. Hang on. Hang on. You your stream is fine, but mine is, like, 18 d b down, and nobody can hear him on Global Voice Network.  

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So your stream is fine, but I'm grabbing the feed from It's somewhere I put my gain up.  

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Alright. It sounds disgusting. I mean, can I get ointment for it or something like that? I'll get my gain up. That was alright, sir. Better.   Yeah.   It sounds better.  

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Yeah. Well, we're up. Just Okay. Just bring the cane up. That'll be fine. Knock my tonsils out in a minute if I still get it. What I what I should do really after at some point, Eric, is maybe get Paul to actually have chat with you and see what we can do. There's there's other little bits and bobs I know that can be added that we can sort of smooth it out with all that kind of stuff. But,   yeah. We'll do that. Where are we now?   Yeah. We're we're a half we've got half an hour ago on our main slot, so we got a little so actually, do we have a song? Yeah, we do.   We got a song here. So this is one selected by somebody called Paul Bina. Let's play this one. So we run this. We'll be back after this little song, everybody. Here we go.  

Well, that was, that was a change of pace there and,   quite a surprise   and, probably a good advert for me pre vetting certain songs before they go out. So there we go. Oh, come on. Come on. You you were talking about Seamansteins   right before that. Yeah. But we it was a children's programs. We were we don't know what you mean, though. It was just a double entendre, but there we go. Anyway, so well well done, Paul. Fantastic.  

[01:34:16] Unknown:

Probably just gonna I'll get a notice in the mail tomorrow. You can't do that ever again, So that that will be that's, that's okay. So don't worry. I'll I like I like when the record reached its climax. Oh, by the way, I've been fiddling with the microphone. Is this better? Okay. Yeah. You're fabulous. You're blow blowing our ears out now. Yeah. You're blowing our ears. He's fine. He's fine. It's all good. I've been twiddling, I've been twiddling with a few knobs and dials and things, and I think we got I think I've cracked it now. So, I've got a note from my parents for earlier, so sorry about that.  

[01:34:46] Unknown:

That's fantastic. Well done. You're actually so loud. You're blowing everything out now. But that's no. That's really good, actually. That's really good. That's cool.  

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That's great. Fantastic. Do we have any audience? Here.  

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We don't have any audience left. We did.   They've all gone now. Some of you wrote, these lyrics.   Yes, indeed. Anyway, never mind.  

[01:35:07] Unknown:

I'll have to take full responsibility for that even though I'm dreadfully don't want. I really don't want to. Well, quite honestly, if if so if if someone put that on my shirt, give them a mouthful. Would you know that? I'm sorry. I mean, I'll be angry, you know. Sorry.  

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Right. Anyway, swiftly moving on.   So, yeah. Yeah. Let's let's,   let's get what were we talking about? I think we were. Let's get back to something a little bit more.  

[01:35:32] Unknown:

Actually, there was one thing we were talking about. Let me let me try and redeem myself a little bit. You asked if there were any speakers' corners in the United States.   And as far as   I can tell, that Bug House Square in Washington Square Park in Chicago   was known as a free speech site from the 19 tens to the 19 sixties.   The pedestrian only area of Pennsylvania Avenue on the north side of the White House in Washington DC has become a de facto   speaker's corner.   So   as far as we know, there's only one, and it's in the District of Columbia.   Hopefully, I was able to redeem myself just a little bit by connecting those dots. Yes.  



[01:36:16] Unknown:

Yeah. I remember when, Robin Williams,   was was alive. He said, I think it was when Ronald Reagan,   left the White House. He said,   America is officially out of rehab now. Would you say that same as, with Biden leaving the White House? Or although I think they again, they're all actors, but it seems that America is actually in rehab. I think, Britain is as well in rehab with Keir Starmer. You know? So they're all sort of,   I don't know.  

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Punch and Judy. You have Punch and Judy. Yes. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah.   The conservatives and the liberals.  

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How can you be out of rehab and still on life support?   Because the country is still messed up because Kamala Harris is the one that's gonna step in if Biden steps out   or checks out. Either way,   the country is still on life support.  

[01:37:06] Unknown:

When you think about it, though, I mean, I think they've well, you're giving credit where it's due.   I think they've achieved more in destroying   the western   world than any   enemy could have even dreamt of. I mean, they've done an absolute genius job. They destroyed the family unit.   They created mass unemployment.   Just think of any misery you can think of. And also, we always have the worry of the week. It's not the World War 3, bird flu.   What's the next one that's gonna come along? Another COVID or something?   Sorry. What was that?  

Climate change. Climate Oh, climate change. Yeah. I forgot about it.  

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Yeah. Sorry? Climate change.  

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Yo. Climate change. Yeah. That's the other one. Yeah.   And I'm just thinking of,   another one that could come up with perhaps we should actually have a kind of competition   to have a sort of worry of the week we can have. You know?  

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Woe of the week.  

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Yeah. You I mean, we we've been through the cold war.   You know,   Paul and myself, well, everybody in this team has been in through the cold war. And I remember,   picking up the newspaper and seeing you're gonna be griddled alive next week and all this sort of stuff. I   personally don't believe that nuclear weapons exist. I really don't believe it. You might think a crackpot for saying that. But if they did exist, look at it from the law of averages,   someone somewhere would have set set it off. I'm positive.   I   again,   what what does anybody else think about that? Do does anybody else think that what what,   nuclear weapons exist?  



[01:38:44] Unknown:

Well, we've been of it. Yeah. We've been deceived about every single thing going, so why wouldn't they deceive us about that as well?   And,   you know, it's it's fitted in well with the supposedly post World War 2 world.   But, of course, really post World War 2 has basically been World War 3,   which has been a psychological onslaught. I guess because of the arrival of television,   which in the states took place really 10 years or so earlier than it did in the UK, certainly in the fifties. Wasn't it? Although there may have been some TVs immediately after the war.   And they got a hold of that and have used television,   to devastating effect. I mean, as a medium,   it could be used for tremendous good,   but they don't really want that.  

And it's this   it's this disconnect that they have from the things that are important to us.   They,   going back to that little clip, you know, with the guy using the word parasite all the time. It really is the case.   They're not, you know, we don't all get much of a chance in life to be super creative, but I guess most of us yearn   yearn for that. And if we were, as Paul said, gifted or have had deep   pockets of money, there's probably lots of very interesting things that we've not seen that would manifest and that we would see. I mean,   but we can't get to it. And it's because, always, every system that they impose,   has the control element as the first consideration.  

They have to put Right. A gateway in. Don't they? So as long as there's a gateway and they can be gatekeepers and then set up regulations   or regulatory bodies,   they can then convince you all that they're regulating it for   our And we've got all these drugs to cure you. Yeah. But you're supplying us to And we've got all these drugs to cure you. Yeah. But you're supplying us with crap food because you've interfered with the food system.   And now that, you know, this nonsense with the environment, it's they've just got,   an endless stream of goofy idiots   telling us that there's too much carbon dioxide. There's not enough.  

We're in a carbon dioxide deficit. We need loads of it. I love it. I love it. You know? So   I love carbon dioxide.  

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But we'll also twist and manipulate the things that are important to us,   like safety, security, and power,   and the environment.   Okay. Yeah. I care. I care about the trees, and I care about the environment.   I care about it a lot more than I believe they care about it because they they twist it and manipulate it and use it as a weapon against us.   If there are so many different stories and narratives just about Fukushima. What was Fukushima about? Was Fukushima about,   about the the government and the globalists attacking Japan because they were doing something that the World Bank didn't like? Or are they demonizing nuclear   power and trying to promote the wind and solar,   green agenda?  

What?   I mean, nothing they have given us has been actually factual   and on the up and up.  

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I think it can't be because this will be. I mean, I've got this question, Paul. Oh, the yeah. Hi. Question from disembodied voice from the ethers. Who's that?  

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It is Sherry. Hi, Sherry. And who is they?   Hi. Who's they? First of all, the y'all The the 7th month, televangelist.  

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Sorry.  

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Okay.   So she wanna rule over us.   You know, and they come from all different realms.   And my second question, why does the parasite   destroy the host?   Because in essence then, they're dead too.  

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Oh, they just moved on to another host.  

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Yeah. They just shift to another host, but they don't think about that. They don't think that they need the host to survive themselves. They they just don't think about that because they don't care.  

[01:42:55] Unknown:

But also, I'm curious.   They give them all the worldly pleasures they want, and then it doesn't matter if they're the host or not.  

[01:43:03] Unknown:

Yeah. But when you look at the mind of the psychopath, if you look at what dot doctor Harris written, I mean, he he wrote book was it snakes with suits?   A psychopath is unable.   They think in the now.   They cannot have long term thoughts. So if they're going to implement something that's going to destroy us,   they won't think   what's gonna happen the next move. They will think now because they want pleasure now, and their pleasure is getting   they feed on stress,   misery, and that type of thing. But the psychopath's mind cannot actually have long term plans,   and that is their problem. Look at what happened in, for example, as a former Soviet Union.  

They told farmers how to farm,   and what happened, it was mass starvation.   This is what's happening here because they cannot think in the next stage alone. They can't think that,   farmers have been in farming for generations and know what they're doing. Oh, no. They believe that someone that's been in a technical college could tell a farmer how to farm. They can't.   This is the psychopath mind,   and we've got to understand   our enemy. There's an old saying,   keep Chinese saying that says, keep your friends close, keep your enemies closer.   And that's our main problem. We don't understand our enemy.  

And the one weapon we've got, as I've said time and time again, is humor. We gotta laugh at them because they don't understand humor. And we can actually get the truth  

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out to the masses via humor. That's my sort of Yeah. And another thing is, you you can understand who the enemy is, but you don't understand yourself.   Correct. That's another problem people have is the misidentification   of who they are.  

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I think we'll be just fine as long as we just   remember the moniker, those who can do, those who can't teach.   So anybody that's telling anybody how to do anything had better be able to prove that they've successfully done it   before they open their mouth.  

[01:45:04] Unknown:

You were we're we're talking earlier about, the nuclear   program and whether that's real or not and it just reminded me of my   my great uncle. He   he was   in one of the testing,   one of the bombs that were tested in near Las Vegas in Nevada,   and I remember him describing what they did. They put them all in trenches, and they told them they couldn't look at the flash.   And it was shortly after that, well, we lost we lost Eric.   Did we? Yeah. Yeah. It looks like we did.  

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Oh, he'll come back. Anyway,  

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short shortly after that,   I think he had his first child and ended up having Down   syndrome. And they blamed it on the radiation from the nuclear blast.   Right. And I'm thinking about that. And it's like, well, maybe   they got inoculations   too   because those were being pushed out at the same time back during the whole polio epidemic in the   fifties. Yep. And   the it's what we have now is just the repetition of that. Because I've I've read literature from   1941   describing the the serums and the vaccinations   causing blood clots and and heart attacks, all sorts of terrible things   that it just seems like a repetition of that, what we're going through now.  



[01:46:31] Unknown:

They're saying that the Spanish flu is actually caused by a vaccine,   by a vaccination.   Right. And anybody that that's inducted into the military prior to deployment to any any theater of   war,   they go through a a vaccine schedule.   It's anywhere between 88 and 108 vaccines, depending on where they're going. They're   poisoning these guys before they   even suit them up and and arm them and put them on a plane.  

[01:47:02] Unknown:

Yeah. And imagine what they can do if they if they see something that they shouldn't see while they're serving   and and then the brass could then say, well, we need to get rid of this guy. He knows too much of our crimes and her dirty deeds. Let's, give him a dirty injection   and kill him. You   know? You'd you put an awful lot of trust into your  

[01:47:22] Unknown:

I mean, even if interested to know. Yeah. Go ahead. One one quick question. I would be interested to know what the percentage   of Alzheimer's and dementia   patients   are former high level security clearance,   consultants for the government. Because I know right off the top of my head, three names   of guys that high had high security clearances   and knew very, very sensitive things,   and they all died   not even knowing what their name was.  

[01:47:55] Unknown:

Yeah. Is that how they put a kind of, dead man switch into their own system? They ensure that   employees with knowledge like that,   meet and untimely or become mentally useless so that they can't impart that information anywhere else. You'd think that I mean, from that kind of mindset, that's not surprising, is it,   in terms of what they do to control other people?   I mean, one of the questions I keep coming obviously, we research things. Everybody listening is, to some degree,   scouring stuff, and we're pairing it down and possibly in the process of acquiring ever more fine tuned understanding of things.   But I keep thinking, is there a point at which that that process itself is counterproductive?  

If we know 90 percent the the challenge seems to me about action. Appropriate   effective action   is a difficult thing to anticipate and to know exactly what it's supposed to be. Some have said, well, we'll create we'll create a political party. As I've said before, I I don't see the point in that.   I think that that's an arena fully,   controlled by that parasite deceiving psychopathic sociopathic class. And, you know, I get bored of saying all those words as well. The baddies, you know, the people that are not on the side of good living. And what is good living. So,   it's championing the things that we want to have back in. And it's why I I guess in my own thinking, I tend to try and   think of simple things   that work,   and it sounds flippant and trite, but I think it's pretty important stuff. Meeting up with people and sharing   breaking bread is a fantastic thing. It reminds you of something about why life is a good thing when it works, and it really does. That there's a lot of riches in individuals and they need to be brought out.  

So given that there are the vast majority of people do want a peaceable life, but we are governed by those who want power   and obviously can't get enough of it or something. There's something that they there's a kick that they get, for want of a better word, out of what they're doing. And yet, they don't contribute really anything at all other than   a false misery which they impose on people. And then they turn up the next day and say, we're gonna relieve you of this problem, not letting you know that they're the ones that caused it in the first place. This entire sort of manhandling of our expectations.   I've you know, if we knew let's suppose there's 50 guys that respond or gals that are responsible   all of this, and we knew where they lived. What would we do?  

What would you actually I mean, what's actually gonna go through our brains? You go, well, they've got all that power so they must be protected. So there's loads of defense mechanisms around them, some which we don't even know about. And then we go, and we become sort of stuck not knowing quite how to act upon that.   I think, obviously, a 1000 years ago or when the world moved at the speed of a horse, the fastest thing on land was a horse and a cart,   and people carried swords, and battle was a physical process based on physical stamina and all sorts of other things. Things were resolved in a particular way. Now with technology,   we have,   developed understandably a kind of paranoia   about technologies that they probably have at their disposal   to sort of snuff out any opposition anywhere under any sort of circumstances. And even if that even if they cock that up, it doesn't matter   because they've got control of the media to convince people of the story they're about to spin on it, and that's what gets embedded in.  

So I don't know where I'm kinda going with this. It's just I what I'm saying you know, go on. You made me think of,  

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Eric's Zulu at Speaker's Corner. Mhmm. You know, it's kind of like the the the first Zulu to break through the lions and and defeat them, you know, defeat the   looks like the movie zoo Zulu or the the one that was made in the seventies where they're, you know, they're so confident of their   superior   technology,   But when it comes time to,   face bayonets with spears, it's about the same and equal. And you have greater numbers. You have you just need that one Zulu to break the ranks. Like, this is a   a what e Michael Jones kind of puts forth is we need   that first Zulu to break through the lines and then the rest the rest is history for them because it's they're not able to they're just gonna be overwhelmed   despite their technology,   despite what they have   set up. You can't you can't fight the numbers once you have numbers.  

And it's the same with the ancient Chinese,   war, you know, patterns of Sun Tzu is you you you need to have superior numbers to your enemy.   Otherwise, you could lose. Yeah. I always like that about Zuang Tzu. 5 to 1. Yes. Yeah. Basically  

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so the gist of it is, if you're outnumbered, run away and hide in the hills.   And if you can, conduct guerrilla warfare.   And, if, you're gonna fight a battle, make sure you colossally outnumber your enemy and wipe them out as fast as you possibly can, because that's the least loss of life overall from the whole thing. So,  

[01:52:57] Unknown:

and welcome back to the studio, Eric. You've obviously Oh, thanks. Did you just nip down to the pub for a quick one, did you? What's going on? No. What it was, I think it's 77 brigade were listening in and pulled the plug because I lost Internet connection. And I just sit there, I was thinking, oh, perhaps something's broken down on the show. And then I thought, hang on. Well, I did emotionally. This Internet But yeah. Well, we Yes. That's hey. You mentioned the 7th 7th Brigade. We need them on our side, don't we? We do. We do. And I actually think I'm looking at by the way, sorry, everybody. I I it's my I don't know what was wrong with the Internet connection. It just went off. Yeah. It happens. It's a lot of times. Okay. I I think we need   counter nudge or counter subversion.  

And that is instead of putting   our hands up by having leaflets saying, this is terrible. We must stop this. Does because   marching   and petitions don't work. They never they just don't do it. But   literally   using nudge techniques.   So for example, I was walking past a well known supermarket,   the,   the other day,   And it'll sign up. We hope to become,   no. We we are aiming at net zero   carbon by 2025.   So we ask people, so, well, how would you prefer to be killed? Because humans   are carbon based, so they're going to kill us, and how does the manager feel about having no customers?   So why are they doing away with their customers? And approach it from a different angle, you know, saying, well, will you prefer to sort of be buried in a mass grave, or will you have choice? And sort of, ask the customers what the hell they feel about being bumped off, knocked off at this earth,   and approaching it from that different angle because that's what near net zero means,   the, ending of us.  

And   Yeah. So that's what I'm   so why not also, again, use humor   with it? You know, because it is completely Exactly.  

[01:54:54] Unknown:

Exactly. Make fun of them. You know, they're Make fun. Yeah. Like the work that we're talking about Speakers Corner   and hecklers.   You know, just make fun of the hecklers and get the crowd involved and say, shame those people. And   if they're too persistent,   then you call in the piece of the bobbies and get them on on your side.  

[01:55:14] Unknown:

Yeah. That's it. The I'd I'd laugh. If anybody's being really offensive, you just laugh   as if, you know, they're they're clowns. They're be they're they're they're there to entertain you. That laughter always brings the situation   down. It really does. You know?  

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It does. As you can probably tell, gentlemen, we've the outro tune here for our slot on WBN   324. So, you've been listening to Paul English Live. We're here every Thursday, 3 PM to 5 PM US Eastern,   8 PM to 10 PM UK time. We're gonna wind up here, but if you wanna carry on listening to the show, we will be rumbling on a bit longer on Rumble, and if you want to get the link to that, go to paulenglishlive.com,   and, you'll find the link to the Rumble chat. This week's show has been with Eric von Essex, Patrick Chanal, and Paul Bina, and my good self.   We'll be back again, as I said, next week, and we'll be carrying on in a few moments, and we'll play you out with this nice little  

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tune.  

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And there we go. And, we're no longer on, network radio with, WBN but we are still here at, Rumble,   with the 4 Musketeers, chewing things over as we do. So, we will,   we'll keep bumbling on. We've got a I think we've got a music track. Not one as awkward as the last one,  

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thankfully. Oh, God.  

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That's right. By the way, now we're off now we're off that other radio station, can we say rude words like tit and bum and things like that? We've already said enough, Ruud. You can say whatever you like, Kerry. You can. I mean, remember, it is it's a family show, so it's going out of family radio time in the States. Although, I don't expect we've got too many families all sat around eating toasted crumpets   in front of the radio listening to us. But who knows? One day, maybe. But yes. Yes. You can a little bit. It'd just be, you know, we're we're we're doing that kind of stuff. But  

[01:57:14] Unknown:

There's nothing like having a bit of crumpet with your tea, is there?   No. You know, when you're eating no. No. No.   No. I suppose Americans don't know what crumpets are. Do you do do you No. American chappies?   Not a clue.   Really? Mhmm. Oh, well, a crumpet is a do so.   How would you describe it, Paul? It's a sort of,  

[01:57:35] Unknown:

I suppose it's like a deli Paul was describing a pie the other day with curd and whey or curd and Yeah. I was just it turned out it's it's a Yorkshire. It's a Northern delicacy,  

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and I miss it greatly on certain occasions. Well, I miss it when I think about it, and I go, oh, we haven't got any.   It's a thing called curd tart.   Have you ever had a curd tart, Eric?   I can't say I have. Remember, I'm a spineless southerner, so I wouldn't know these things. Well, there is that, but I didn't wanna bring it up. But thank you for sort of saving me the embarrassment of using that epithet for you. But yeah.   It's made from curds, from the curds and whey bit and it's got raisins in it and it's just   it's like they said I know when I was reading the description out to you,   Patrick, that it's a kind of Yorkshire   version of a cheesecake and it is actually. It's kind of it's not as it's not like cheesecake because it didn't have piles of cream in it. But boy, it's jolly jolly good. And,   I'm sure if you all had one right now while you're listening to this thing and a cup of tea, you'd be happier.  

I certainly would be, but, I haven't had one in ages of curd tart. I've I've gotta go and get some. I haven't been up north for too long now, so I better get up there and, and get myself a nice curd tart. You'd like it, Eric. It's very good. It really is very, very good. Well, also, well, also, in the House of Commons restaurant, that their particular  

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a a Victorian delicacy.  

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Yes.   And there's that there's a fantastic there's a brand of them over here, which is very weird and surreal, mister Brain's Faggots. Is that right? That's right. Yes. That's right. Mister brains faggots. Yes. So, you know, you could walk into a shop and say, hello. Is that some faggots, please.  

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Really, sir?   Imagine going over to America and ask you that. And, the other one is a sort of cigarette. It's a fag, isn't it? So, you know, you could go into a shop and say, I'll have, 20 fags, please. Isn't it a bundle of twigs?   What a fag? Yes. Yeah. Twigs? Yeah. Faggot is a bundle of twigs. Yeah. Yeah. It's what they used to when they burned people alive, they used to have put faggots underneath them, apparently.   And it's a how nice?  

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So, that's a that's a little   I mean, could you go to America and ask for a faggot, and they would know what it means in a restaurant? Yeah. Well, it's a certain Switching switching the topic a little bit away from this this tremendous culinary discourse. Yeah.  

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There was a comment a little bit earlier. I think it might have been from Warren,   saying interesting,   the gist of it was interesting that a film about Stalin had never been made.   I mean, a serious one. Perfect.   I mentioned here the other week the death of Stalin, which is this comedy film by   Armando Iannucci. I think he's the director.   He used to be involved in There was  

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there was one in the English language. Was there? I know in Russian language, there are. I've seen them, but I don't remember the names. Yeah.  

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Well, go I mean, going through the Nuremberg trial stuff,   as I have been doing, which is,   I mean, goring.   Wow.   That's all I'll say.   He's amazing. He's absolutely   you know, these guys knew they were for the high jump, but Goring sort of, he's like,   he's like the girl at Pimpernel. He escapes he escapes the justice they wanted to give him, obviously, courtesy of a cyanide tablet.   But his,   the whole thing as it's unpicked   and as you see what's going on,   the the prosecution is spending   so much time trying to avoid embarrassing   lines of discourse. In fact, they've got rules   drawn up, particularly with the Russians, to make sure that and the British, by the way, to make sure it doesn't come up like,   the planned invasion of Norway by Churchill,   Norway being a neutral country at the time.  

They were very keen to not get into that but it kind of pops out every now and again, and they're all sort of a little bit awkward about it. And, of course, there's,   there's the Molotov,   Ribbentrop pact, which they don't want to come up either. And and really the gist of it is is that as a trial,   it's,   it's obviously a political statement.   But the way it's being manipulated   is,   it wouldn't would it be allowed today? Possibly. Probably. I don't really know.   But Stalin, it got me thinking just looking at that trial and   Philip k Dick wrote that book,   The Man in the High Castle, which I've not read. Philip k Dick being the science fiction writer. And I think that's been turned into a sort of TV series, which I also haven't watched and won't probably.  

And the the proposition is that,   the axis powers won World War 2 of were victorious in it and have taken up power in America and that's supposedly what it's all about. But I'm not particularly interested in that. But what I was thinking of is,   were that had that been the outcome?   And this might make for a good bit of fiction.   Is,   obviously, they've held this trial in or they held the trial in Nuremberg, which was,   you know, a conquered   city within the defeated nation.   So maybe there could be the reverse would be that you would have a trial saying Coventry or somewhere like that or Washington   and it's reversed round. And I thought that could be absolutely fascinating because you could get into these   topics   of how the allies were financed   and the preplanning of the war, all of the things, of course, that are well off the radar.  

So, you know, I thought I was thinking having imaginary scenes in my head of German prosecutors prosecuting Churchill   and asking, you know, what happened on that first day when you became prime minister? Where did the decision come to bomb German villages and towns on the very first morning you took up   occupation at number 10. Why? Where did that come from? And who financed it? But, and it was sparked off today because there was a section in there about Hjalmar Schacht,   and, Szacht was the economics wizard   behind it. But throughout the entire in the 16 years prior to the war or up to the end of the war,   Schacht was feeding   masses of information to Sir Montague   Norman, who just happened to be the head of the Bank of England at the time, you know, just a pal down the club.  

So Norman knew everything, and when he when Schacht is obviously,   called up to be,   you know, he's one of the defendants and everything, and it's it's fascinating.   It's absolutely fascinating because interesting to hear. Yeah. It's really interesting because,   basically, the British, a guy called Fillmore and   Norman, are pressuring the Americans, and they obviously did this successfully, to make sure that it didn't go too heavy on Schacht. There's a lot of pressure. Yeah. I I read some of this in a transfer agreement by Edwin Black Yeah. About about his his  

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secret dealings on the side to to move Jews to Palestine.  

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Yes. At the time. All all of these sorts of things. And   this is the this is the bit I yeah. This is the bit that gets my juices really flowing because you're right at the root of who paid for all this   and how it's a it's a setup. You can see that it's a massive setup.   And the banker and there's a line that Irving puts in it where,   you know, the chief proceed   becomes aware that the banking class are the new I think he uses the words, the new untouchables,   Ayo.   Absolutely.   And and that's,   so the idea of reversing it around and turning it into a piece of fiction, it just intrigued me today. I was looking and I thought, oh, I wonder what it would have been like if there was the reverse   court case.  

And you I mean, Roosevelt won't be there because he died during the war, but you get Truman in there and all these other guys. Ribbentrop and Churchill  

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in 37   was kind of a pivotal thing,   where they came to him and wanted an alliance with Britain.   Mhmm. And he rejected it.   You know? Yes. He was he was told by his handlers to reject it.  

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That's right.  

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There was the planned Churchill planned to invade Portugal. Not many people realized that before d day or the second front as it was known then, and the military planners had to spend   about 6 months   to convince Churchill that, 1,   Portugal is a neutral country, which Churchill didn't give a damn about, and 2, it would be a complete waste of military   Day really was because the pressure from Stalin. That was the only reason because there was really no need for d Day because the allies were pushing up through Italy.   But the Italian   front was actually starved of men and materials   to push everything into,   Operation Overlord,   which, of course,   was   responsible for the deaths of,   well, thousands of,   German aims,   allied service people. Mhmm. So, really, you know,   a lot of it was just political. That that was the main thing. It's just but it's going back to what you said about a trial the other way. It would have been really fascinating because you'd have had Churchill on trial. Although,   you know that Churchill and the royal family, there was a submarine in Liverpool   waiting for them, would have lagged it to their hideaway in Canada.  

And now it's a tourist attraction. They had a bolt hole in Canada. What? Canada? Canada's a tourist attraction.   No. Well, yeah.   You're joking.   Well, with the with the no. No. But actually, that's good.   You know, the actual bolt hole that's that I had in Canada is now a tourist attraction, apparently.   So you can actually see it. But they did have a bolt hole in Canada, which they would have got to by some random people. A what? A bolt hole. We know a place where they it's a term that means,  

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a place where they can A hideaway. A sneaky place that nobody knows about. You're gonna, you know,  

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conquer down in there and sort of the war from there. Mhmm. Yeah. That apparently, they they would have conducted the war from there. But also, there was plans to invade,   Southern Ireland for the food. And the Southern Irish were aware of this   and the plan was they couldn't have held   British forces because they've been too much for them, was to be to hold them up using,   sort of, shall we say, pockets of resistance,   guerrilla warfare  

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until the German forces could come along and help the southern Irish out. Right. That was the point. Yeah. And it wasn't our first rodeo with that kind of situation, was it either? Wasn't the famine like that  

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before that? Well Potato famine?   The well, they say it's the potato famine, but the British troops went over and stole not any potatoes, but almost everything they had. Everything they had. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. Mhmm. And it was pushed they pushed them into starvation, but,   I worked with a,   Irish chap that was actually in the Irish,   forces during the 2nd World War. And they was going to introduce conscription, but they threw it out of the Irish government because they say it's not democratic.   People should have a choice, and they had, like, a home defense idea. We went home each night,   but you   were trained in guerrilla warfare in your local area.  

So that,   if   Britain had have invaded,   they the Irish, as I say, that they they they had these plans, but   the Irish actually had German equipment. Did you know that? They had German uniforms, German equipment, and German brain guns a lot. And there's a lot of German equipment still there as sort of like collector's pieces now. And   I,   as a younger person, being a little bit wet beyond the ears, said that would have been in that would have been,   a bit confusing if the Germans would have been invaded.   And this chap said, we weren't worried about the Germans. They were allies. We're worried about the British.   Yeah. I've never forgotten that. And it was true. It's right. Yeah. It's right. Yep. You know? But he said there's quite a few English people that had served in the British forces that had married Irish women.  

And I think he had a an English chap that was training him. And they signed that they would change sides, and he said they were very brave because if they had been captured, they'd have been death straight away because of treason.   So he said,   you know, that that that that they knew the situation, but they also knew the British Army tactics.   So, yeah, quite an interesting chap he was. Because, you know, it was an invention that the British were,   refueling u boats. Sorry. The Irish were   refueling u boats in Irish,   inland harbors. And the reason they   said that was to get people wound up as an excuse to invade Southern Ireland.  

But the Irish were also   refueling   British ships as well because it's a neutral port.   But,   if you look at the map, it'd have been ridiculous   for U boats to be refueled   in Ireland because they're almost done. It was all they had to do is go around the bottom and get get to France. So,   you know but I know that,   damaged U boats did limp into Irish ports, and they were repaired. And damaged British submarines and damaged British shipping limped into our ports, and they were repaired as well. So there we go. So that's it.   Yeah. I'm not sure if you're aware of that. You know, Ireland,   quite interesting during World War 2. And also, a lot of English went to Ireland to apply to escape being   conscripted into the British army.  

Yeah. But you had to be rich.  

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Now   I'm trying to think of the film that was made about the Irish involvement with the Germans   during World War 2. I'd seen it parts of it where   they were being raided, and   there's all there it   it's such a history. I mean, that that whole   thing, and there's so much deception there too.   It's  

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Yep.   Yep. There is. I mean, and of course, Eric, when I was on with you the other day with John Hamer at the weekend,   and I know we we talk about Freemasons   a lot,   and rightly so. That's a good show, by the way. Yeah. It was it was fun. John's a very I'd never even met him before. So, just a shout. There's an an author over here in England called John Hamer. Many of you may have heard of him. He's prolific. Written some enormous books on the on banking, which I've not read, but I I've read plenty. But, I got on with him great, and he's up   in Scarborough. And I, he did threaten to buy me fish and chips if I go up there, and that's as good a reason to go up there as any because you Scarbados?  

Scarbados. Sorry. Yeah, there is that. But I I came across there's an interesting,   this was just from today reading this part of this thing and it's just sort of stuck in my mind,   really about all this kind of stuff. Where was it? I was just sort of checking it from today. This is to do with Shacked because there's a whole chapter called Shacked Saved on the Square, which is really what I'm I've been going through today, and it's fascinating stuff.   And it says this,   he I think this is Jackson. Okay. So Jackson's the if you've heard of it, he's the main guy. Right? He's the main guy. And, he says, he soon became aware   that the Nazi banker Schacht did indeed have friends   in the most unlikely places and influence everywhere.  

One day, one of his team, the eminent New York International Lawyer Ralph Albrecht,   reported to him that the British assistant prosecutor colonel Harry j Filimore,   later a Lord Justice of Appeal in London, and I'll come back to that in a second,   had accosted him in the hall outside the courtroom, and urged the Americans to relax   their remorseless   pressure on the banker.   When Albrecht, perplexed, asked why,   Filimon uneasily explained that certain representations   had been made   by sir Montague Norman, governor of the Bank of England, from 1920 to 1944.   He went on. He said, it would be most unfortunate,   murmured the British colonel, if anything you can imagine this. Right? If anything were to happen to Schacht, most unfortunate.  

That's kind of a veiled threat or something. In fact,   Schacht had been an informer of Sermontegou,   secretly apprising him of the political and financial decisions taken at the highest level in Berlin for 16 years before the war.   How about that? And he says,   Irving goes on, he says, there is in the records of His Majesty's Treasury in the British archives an illuminating file on the efforts made by Sir Montague Norman to get Schacht released.   And,   what was also very interesting about this little section, because there was an asset as an aside   with regards to this chap, Filamore,   he says, Irving writes as a footnote. He goes, 25 years later, Fillmore   was one of the 3 judges So this must be what? Late 60 No.  

70, 71, something like that.   Was one of the 3 judges who heard this author, I. E. Irving's appeal in the landmark, and I don't know anything about this, convoy PQ 17 libel action, Cassella and Co versus Broom.   He says, Fillmore,   Schacht, Montague,   Norman,   and Sir Norman Birkett, one of the British judges who held out for Schacht's acquittal in 1946,   were all   Freemasons.   Well, I am. You could knock me over with a feather   and he says this, Jackson, who was the lead, you know, the the head American guy and chose the whole thing.   Jackson was also a leading Mason. Well,   his diary entry for June 16,   1945 records a conversation in which Truman,   grand master of the Masons of Missouri,   showed him his gavel. I don't know if that's a euphemism or something. But anyway, there you go. So   well well well, I'm sure, you know, regular listeners are not surprised by any of that, but it's great to get such precise detail on it. And of course, Montague Norman   is serving the stockholders. And the stockholders of the bank or the shareholders   are the same people who basically   paid for and organised the war well in advance to make sure it took place. So  

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I found something interesting about his name, Haldemar   Shaq. Haldemar Shaq. Yeah? Yeah. Halldemar Schacht.   I I just pulled open the index to the transfer agreement book about him, and his his name is actually Halldemar   Horace Greeley Schacht.   Yeah. And Horace Greeley   ran the Tribune   Newspaper, and he was one of the founders of the Republican Party   in America during the Civil War in Abraham Lincoln. And he was a correspondent.   He published marks in its paper.   So it's very interesting that this guy is named after him.  

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Yes. Horace Greeley is referenced by JFK,   isn't he, in that speech?   When he's took yeah. Right at the beginning of that speech, the one on secret societies, the the great speech that he meant that's about 20 minutes long. He he references Horace Greeley   as being a bit tight fisted in refusing a rise. That's it. Marx goes to Greeley for a rise in his remuneration of whatever it was, $2 a week or whatever,   and, Greeley says no, at which point he left   and goes off and and creates   communism. And so Kennedy was saying, let that be a lesson to all editors to not resist,   you know, the imprecations of a journalist, a poorly paid journalist, for more money. Look at what it led to, you know. That was kind of the joke of the whole thing. But, yeah, that was going on as well. But,  

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it's fascinating stuff. It it In fact, it's absolutely amazing. Because he was also a big supporter of Charles Fourier, which was the the Frenchman that started all these Fourier Communities in Wisconsin and Texas. That's Right. Why there are a lot of Germans   and and Swiss and French Frenchmen   in concentrated in those areas and they were the early socialist utopian community type things where they're going to you know go off and communes their early communist. Yeah, obviously with Marx and all that. Yeah.   It's fascinating though that he was also Hitler's   and the 3rd Reich's banker  

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in that regard. Isn't isn't it just?   Yeah.   Yeah.   Absolutely. Some important little text messages in here recently as well. Aunt Sally's getting a bath. Well done. That's fantastic. Jumping in the bath, and we'll be listening on the phone. Excellent.   I'm gonna be in the bath, Diane. Exo says, don't drop the phone into the into the phone. Don't drop the phone in the foam. Yeah. And Exo's cat is a 33rd degree Mason. We always suspected it was thus.   And Warren gives a shout out to Dennis Wise's   excellent,   excellent thing. The masonic victory of World War 2.  

And, Yeah. These are excellent things. They're really excellent things. I, I was watching,   somebody sent me this video   the other day. It's been bombing around. It's it actually   cropped up in the,   Telegram chat that's connected to this show, which is generally pretty lively every day now. It's getting livelier and livelier, which is which is fun.   Dennis is it No. It's not It's another Dennis.   I've got the first name wrong. It's called the Kazarian mafia thing. You know this thing? And,   I apologize for not remembering his name. I might dig it up, but somebody sent it to me. Actually, it's one of our dinner pals sent it the other day, And I don't normally get a chance to watch any of these sorts of things, and it's in 2 parts. The first bit was an hour and a half, and the second, 2 and a half hours.   And,   as a as a refresher course,   and as a sort of wonderful,   narrative   up and down the line of all the trouble, it was very very good. I I I thought it was just an excellent use of time. In fact, I've I've pointed my sons to it and said, look, if you want to save thousands of hours of research or whatever, not that I'm I'm against them doing that, not that they're necessarily interested at this stage, but,   you could you couldn't do much better than actually going through this. And it addresses all these ancient aspects right through to now,   and particularly looking at the freemasonic aspect, particularly over the recent last couple of centuries, you know.  

Because what we were talking about with 15, 20 minutes ago about the sort of the root issue of what's going on with the people on the other side.   And,   this video presentation talks about Saturn,   which is important. And, there's an author called Troy Maclachlan,   who I'd love to get onto the show at some point. He I don't know if he's done any shows recently, but he wrote a book which I've got called The Saturn Death   Cult. And it it strikes me that there's something pretty important about that because,   it's connected, you know, the original name of Rome, was Saturnia, I think.  

It's where Saturday comes from. It's to do with Kronos, who you may remember eats his children.   All of these things are allegorical and literal and to do with the destructions of planets and all. And there is some weird kind that we would obviously call it a cult   down here, which it is, which is devoted to destruction in some way.   The Bible touches upon these things, you know, the the Nephilim, these giants,   and their destructive ways.   And who's to say they're not still around in different guises? And then we talk, don't we, about all these bloodlines and all these different power centers,   and why things can't be done.  

Why why we can't get things done to sort of create that peaceful plateau that we know it would be possible if we weren't interfered with so much. However,   this is this is the lot down here at this moment in time, it seems to me. Well, there's a chap called survivalist Steve who often comes on my show,  

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and he,   has worked out. He he studies numerology,   and he says most of these events   or all of these events rather,   all fall into a well defined pattern. And he reckons 22nd   March is a key date because that was when the lockdown started. Loads of other things started and he comes up with other dates as well which are all keys to it. And, you know, when you look at why the was it the first and second   World War,   started?   They both had up to 68, which is a very weird thing as well. So, you know, it's,   it is fascinating.   If you've seen Dennis Wise's film, what is it, the masonic victory? Was it,   what was it? Masonic victory, World War 2? Secret masonic victory of World War 2. Yeah. That's it. That's it. And about the Pentagon   and the way that it was actually,   built and everything was in the   Axis favor   before the Pentagon was built. And when it was finalized,   everything went against   the Axis. And it was mainly due to the weather in Russia Russia, which was the worst for years. And even Hitler said, this is demonic. This is strange. He's he's never they never It was the Pentagon was  

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the groundbreaking   ceremony was on September 11, 1941.   And I know this because   because there was also a speech given by Charles Lindbergh on that same day,   and he was in Iowa and he was basically saying that there are 3 parties that were wanting to bring us in the war.   The British,   the Roosevelt Administration,   and the Jewish.   So   yeah, he   was set up and you should hear that speech, it's quite famous.   But it was after that Pearl Harbor happened and then   he just totally lost credibility because everybody wanted to go to war.   So he he couldn't challenge Roosevelt anymore   after that point.  



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So I'm wondering what the outrage is going to be for the for the next war if we're gonna have one. Although, I think they've already declared war on us. As we said earlier,   war was   declared in 1945   on us, and they've been slowly destroying us ever since.  

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Why is it, you think,   that   huge numbers of people   seem to lack seem to lack   an even basic level of questioning about current events to enable them.   Do you think it's to do with the unpleasant discomfort that comes with leaving the group, as it were, psychologically?   Because you Yes. It's cult.   You you have to It's cult behind If we say that the world is a cult, because it's obviously   infused   with   media stories that that anybody who even just takes even a modicum of time to examine them, suddenly discovers   infinite bullshit,   and unreliable nonsense, and manipulative gibberish.  

And yet and anybody could really do that.   And and yet they seem to be either,   completely,   ignorant of or unaware of this thing called the question   and the question mark.   And even if they know it, they don't seem to wield it or use it. This,   I guess, the education system, the idea of getting hold of us when we're young, which we all were,   got hold of, and you put into this authoritarian   structured so called education system,   tends to beat out of people the desire   to innocently ask questions. In fact, it is kind of frowned upon. Stop disrupting the flow of the class, Eric, there at the back. You can't differentiate between yourself and another group of people. You can't have your own group and identify  

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as different from any other group in in that setting of the public education system the way it's set up. It's a masonic system   at its at its beginning.   And that was a a way of integrating the minority   Jews back when they were emancipated   in Napoleonic times   after the French Revolution   and that led to the point where we're at now where you can't even identify who you are. You're you're   set in that Sun Tzu, you know, scenario where you identify your enemy first and ever first you identify who you are. And if you can't identify who you are, doesn't matter if you know the enemy. Because Mhmm. You're gonna be you you can't be united in a a defense   at that point.  



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But also it's natural to become hive mind if you're in a group. That it seems to be a natural thing.   However,   strong minded you are,   you gradually drift into a hive mind. And you know you're in a cult when if someone steps out of line, everybody turns against that person as if they're the most evil person in the world,   all unanimously.  

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But if that's done on good principles, it it can work in our favor.   Because if you have a group, a cult, so to speak, a culture   where you have that hive mind, so to speak, which   upholds morality, upholds   true doctrine Yes. You it's a good thing. So it it's been kind of showed. Yeah.  

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The the hive mind the hive mind is the problem   because   everybody sees everybody else around them struggling in exactly the same way that they are struggling.   So they don't see anything unnatural   or abnormal about it.   Nobody goes looking for answers or solutions   until their ox gets gored in a way that they weren't expecting   or that they have they cannot attribute to ever applying to anybody else that they've ever known. So   they're not gonna step outside their comfort zone. They're not gonna go looking for the hidden boogeyman.   They're just gonna count it up to bad luck, the devil, or whatever.  

Karma.   It's   outside their scope of influence. They have absolutely no interest.  

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I guess, though,   everybody here. Right?   I mean, maybe this is a silly assumption. It won't be entirely true. But all of us here and people listening and those in the Rumble Chatham wherever, we're going to.   At one point in your life, there was a time in your life when you were completely unaware of all this stuff,   and,   you are maybe quite conformist up to a point because you have to to survive, say, in the school environment. So you tow the line in certain areas   so that you don't have to get detention every day. Right?   You start to restrain certain disruptive impulses   because every time you've given into them, you ended up with a detention. These sorts of slow, you know, coaxing of your behavior   and you think, well, you know, we should have all really turned out the way that they wanted to but   many of us don't And in fact,   I I keep thinking why everybody doesn't sort of get that way. Now, everybody has a different sort of life and everybody's got their own individual sort of crosses and dramas.  

And in many cases, people have hidden stories that you may never ever get to know about, you know. I'm being judgmental or or taking that that approach when we say, you know, people don't ask enough questions. But maybe   they got their heart hands burnt so badly. You you it's very difficult to say, but I just feel there should be an awful lot more. However, history tends to show that there never has been. And I know there's this thing, for example, about boomers. Right?   Which I find very funny. I find it negative. It's the boomers' fault. Right? Yep. It's the boomers. Right? The boomers spent all the money having a nice time.   And, if it hadn't been for the boomers, blah blah blah blah. Of course, this is complete blather and nonsense.  

Because I think it's iris irrespective of whatever so called   group you were born into. All these names, millennials, and all this other crap that keeps coming out. Right? I mean, I couldn't give a monkeys about any of it. It's so silly.   You have these different themes throughout the age. But I I reckon at any point in history,   whenever a 1000 babies have been born on one day, anytime up and down the timeline,   the same percentage of them, and it's small, were the ones that were gonna grow up and start questioning everything. I don't think that percentage has ever changed.   I think in terms of mass conditioning, though, now,   you have this sort of seasoned   I mean, there's an interesting thing happening with someone I know who who's talking who runs a nursery,   and, maybe she's listening to this. And,   one of the things she's been she's been running it for a long time. And one of the things she's saying,   because it's about to come to an end is that many of the children that now come in are   unrulable.  

They're not like they were they're completely out of control.   I mean, maybe I'm exaggerating but they're they're difficult to a degree that they have never been. I mean, I know you can always get difficult children in classes. Hopefully, you all were one at some point. I hope so.   And, you know, because you're pushing the boundaries of things. But there's   there's this complete vagueness in people about what they're supposed to do. And I I guess to a great degree,   I this is the way I think anyway, is this drifting away from the law,   the law because there is the law. There's not all this stuff that men have made. There's the law. These unshakable principles   has to be a part of it because history tends to show that we as a people, as we drift   into, let's call it, godlessness, which is definitely the major theme for most people these days, and I'm not talking about going to a church when I say that.  

People lose a sense of their position and what the actual purpose of their life is to be. And for most of us,   even though many people, I guess, are never it looks as though many people are not even gonna have this experience now. But getting together with a member of the opposite sex to build a family   is   a massive challenge. It's probably too big in many ways,   And it it contains   hidden rewards, which you cannot see or articulate about, in my view, until you actually start doing it. And when you start doing it, it starts happening. It's not it's just like old age. It's not what you think it was going to be.   I know millions of people have done it, but it's not. It's not how you think it's going to be. And I hear from a lot of people, you know, who've got sort of very negative views about this that and the other, which they've just picked up from the media   because it said, oh, I don't wanna have children. Well, the whole purpose, I've mentioned this before, is if we don't, and this goes for any race,   if we don't have children,   what are we doing? This is all ended already.  

It's, you know,   it's it's finished. There's no there'll be nobody to hear the story in a 100 years' time. There won't be anybody. There won't be interest people from other races or groups or cultures won't be interest in our story. We won't be around to tell it, and we wouldn't we're not we wouldn't be even there to tell it to them anyway. It's supposed to be for the people that, you know, our young people, the little grown ups that are supposed to come along.   So the emphasis in everything   is obviously,   has been skewed.  

It's been turned ass around it, and we we end up where we're at. And I do, you know, I I've mentioned it before but I'll say again,   that that quote by Chesterton is absolutely   appropriate. When men stop believing in God, they don't believe in nothing. They believe everything. And we're surrounded by a culture where people are, well, yeah, I believe in tattoos or I believe in this or I believe a boy can become a girl. That's   it's literally sort of like,   a hobby.   What crazy thing can we believe in next year? Oh, don't worry lads, we'll think of something for you in 5 years time. You can become a a bear. We've come up with some new tech that we can actually make your entire body covered in hair. You can be a bear if you want to. And I'm saying it as a joke, but guess what? It'll come up, won't it?  

[02:33:29] Unknown:

Anything. Like drugs. Yeah. It's like drugs. Oh, you just take this drug and it'll change your perspective on everything. And, it's kind of the brave new world scenario that, everything will change and you'll lose your inhibition and all this. Mhmm. That's the only thing holding men back from progressing forward and   and and living in harmony.  

[02:33:49] Unknown:

That's what Prozac was all about.   I it   it just creates children with nothing.  

[02:33:57] Unknown:

Children with riddle, you know, the attention deficit disorder. Oh, you know, the the natural curiosity that children have. Oh, yeah. There's a clouds blue. Oh, look at that. There's a bug on the ground. You know? That kind of thing. It's natural way of learning. It is. Stifle natural curiosity.  

[02:34:15] Unknown:

Let's stifle   it.  

[02:34:18] Unknown:

Yeah. And then another thing is they put them all in the same age group. And I was talking with Maleficus about this, and he was saying that   after the lockdown   they started having their recess time,   you know, the breaks to go outside of the classroom   and instead of commingling with classes,   it ends up being one class at a time, one age group at a time. So you never get a chance to   learn from the older kids.   Really? Older children.   Yeah.   I mean, this is what schooling is all about is, you think about it, they used to have 1 room school houses where you taught the older ones with the younger ones, and the older ones would assist the younger ones and be teachers themselves   and that's that's been   That's been another thing that with the whole masonic you know commingling   ethnic groups   and and religious groups together.  

The problem has been is how do you then form cohesion with them? Well, you put them all in the same age group so that they at least have the that in common with each other, but they don't have any culture.  

[02:35:21] Unknown:

Yeah. The idea of being, say, in a playground setting where there is only people in your age group is a bit weird because part of the,   intimidation   factor of going, say,   to your middle school, you know, sort of 11 to 18, 11 to 16,   was that you would be suddenly yeah. You're 11   and there are, you know, pupils that are 16, 17, and 18, and they're physically way bigger than you. For the first time, you're much bigger. Right.  

[02:35:49] Unknown:

You know? And if you're being bullied by someone in your same age group as a child like that, you don't have that older generation to go to and say, hey, this guy's picking on me. Can you help me out? Yeah. You don't you don't learn those skills. It just becomes then, you know,   I don't I don't know what it is. It's got a different Oh, I mean, they've been able to replicate their structures,  

[02:36:11] Unknown:

I would suggest, really, because of money.   You know, they come up with these,   anti life ideas,   of which banking is the ultimate one in terms of the extended control it gives them. And so everybody that's on the other side is getting paid all the time. And this is part of that  

[02:36:29] Unknown:

you know, I know it's a really boring observation. I keep making it all the time. No. But they get paid No. That's that's the point with the teachers and the unions of the teachers. It's like they're some of the best paid people for what the work that they have to do. Yeah. And for what they do to pervert the children. It's Mhmm.   It's a terrible situation because our property taxes go to their wages.   Same with the health care workers too. Yep. So the obvious solution really is  

[02:36:54] Unknown:

that,   you have to homeschool.   And it's as if we have to,   we have to redevelop our sort of network connections to help one another out. I don't think it's actually that difficult. I think it's just a bit it is intimidating.   It's intimidating because people are naturally hardwired to want to be part of the larger group because they see rightfully that that's where   the protection lies. But, But, of course, we're hitting that point where to be in the protected group means you're gonna be so the best way to protect you from all the dangers of life   is to kill you,   because then you won't have any dangers that you have to you won't have any anxieties. If you're dead, you see, you don't have to worry about all the threats in life. I mean, I know I'm talking out of my bottom, but that's what they're doing. This protection racket leads in that to that direction.  

You are to be made fearful of everything and they are going to save you from all this fear. And you're not supposed to observe that they're the ones creating it all. And that's where the ultimate argument leads to. It's just saying, life is really scary.   I mean, I had that this week really in the hospital with,   getting some communications from hospital staff regarding the recovery of my wife and their idea of what was   challenging   was a joke to me.   I just thought it's ridiculous. Well, this could be dangerous and I'm just saying life's dangerous.   What do you do you want to live   or do you want to just cower   and not live?  

And,   my view is, you know, I'm I like Goring's attitude, you know, at the end. I mean, you know, not that I said this in a hospital meeting,   but he said, you know, why would I wanna jump around like a rabbit when I could, you know, be killed as a lion? It's just true. It's not about courage. It's about why are we If you're gonna be alive, live.   And most people don't, do they? And we've all had periods where we've not and probably been dissatisfied and rather ashamed of ourselves for at certain points lacking courage to do a thing we knew was the right thing to do, but we feared the consequences. It's all part of our learning curve.   I get I I would imagine everybody has had a moment like that, or maybe several, I have. You know, afterwards, you feel sort of really a little bit disgusted with yourself or unimpressed, and bloody hell, I could have done better there. And I didn't. And next time and maybe, you know, if you're awake and conscious on it, you will. But a lot of people sort of back off as they hit a certain peak level of comfort in life, and they go, that's it. I can't do anymore,   because it's uncomfortable. And it's living with discomfort that's a key you've got to be able to cope with living uncomfortably because it just comes with the territory. It it just does. It's unavoidable. You'd  

[02:39:30] Unknown:

you'd mentioned your show about the Freemasons   and I I remember hearing this from, Frederick Blackburn   about how when he left the Freemasons,   you become what's known as a NDP, a non payer of dues.   Right. Because you're no longer paying your dues to the lodge, and you become a non person. You're like dead to the group at that point because you're not contributing to the coffer that they all draw from.   And at that point, you're shunned. You're you're you're nobody, you know. You may as well be dead to them, and sometimes they are. You know, they have a rule in that that you die, you know, you're worthy of death if you leave the group kind of deal.   And I find this even in like in the Catholic church we have the   Knights of Columbus, which is a weird organization that formed at the turn of the century,   with Irish priest,   on top of it anyway. But it's a similar situation. You leave the group. You stop paying the dues, and you become   persona non grata. You don't you don't exist to the group anymore because you're not contributing.  

And it's all about the dues. You could pay your dues, and I'm sure it's the same in Judaism where you pay for your synagogue seat,   the best seat in the synagogue, and if you don't pay it you go you get a lesser seat, or you get kicked out altogether, and then you're nobody.   It's just it's a it's a system that works and it works to keep people in in check.   And I think that's kind of a the education system is set up the same way. You pay your property tax,   and if you don't pay your property tax, you're in trouble. You go to you go to prison or whatever it is the punishment ends up being.   So and and that those go into the of all the matters?  

Yeah. It is. It is in a way. Yeah. It comes down to the money.  

[02:41:14] Unknown:

The money. Who has it? Who wants it? And that's how they control the people.  

[02:41:20] Unknown:

Yeah. I remember listening to the you had a show with Roger Sales, and I was it Trevor or Brent? Or I think it was Brent this guy's name. He was talking to,   I   apologies to any any,   what do you call them out in Utah? That group? The, the Mormons. Mormons? Yeah. Mormons. Yeah. Same situation. You pay your 10% tithe to the church, and if you don't pay that, you're kind of a nobody.   You're ostracized.   I mean,   how can we live in a society where that's not an issue? Because you have people that   live on the margins   that that can't provide for themselves, and you've got the ultra wealthy that can just afford to take up and eat up all the property.  

I was listening earlier today to Huey Long's speeches from the 20s 30s where he was running against Roosevelt.  

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Mhmm.  

[02:42:09] Unknown:

For you know, who who got us into World War 2. And he used this idea of the barbecue. You know, you have   a small percentage of people that own 80% of the   the property in the country,   and then the, you've got 100 100 some 1000000 people   living near the poverty line as a consequence. It's like going having a barbecue,   and   someone comes in and takes   80% of the food and everybody's left with no food and that they have more food than they know what to do with.   And it Yeah. It's the same situation. You gotta But, I mean, this is this is that thing about,  

[02:42:48] Unknown:

this is this key component that's missing.   It's missing at the level of the internal story of all of us as a people of   the forgiveness of debts.   Because   the the culture we live in is that the creditor comes first,   and the debtor is a,   an absolute, you know, a waste of space.   And their life is to be ruined because they didn't repay their debts with the interest on them. And so God didn't bless them with the ability to to provide for themselves. That's right. And so we create all these internal reasons for why that's and they deserve it. You know? Well,   the Calvinism.  

Yeah. And it's study of religion. It's it's repulsive,   and it's dense all at the same time, but obviously not to those with the money. And, you know, the the analogy of the barbecue is an excellent one.   Because, you know, we've mentioned here before, you you sit down with a pen and a paper and you write down what you need   to be at peace in the world. And it's not a lot.   It's and yet all those areas, you know, you need a roof over your head. You need some resources to maintain the quality of the roof, I. E. The house. You need some   clothing. You need good food,   which we're not getting, because then you are at very high you'll have much lower medical propensity to become ill will be vastly reduced if the food is sound under the laws of nature and not under the laws of agrochemicals, and   and so on and so forth. So this   the game has become the destructive factor because, rightfully, because of what they're taught. Everybody thinks and knows, and of course, we are,   we're hemmed in by this. If you don't have the money to pay the bill to do the   And this guy's got all the money. So he's he's bought them all up.  

Where's the sense in that? Because these people think that buying and owning all the stuff   is is the way to go. But the actual law for us as a people I don't know what it's like for other people, but the actual law for us as a people is not about that.   And, therefore, that   the goal of being able to live in the idyllic village   where things are generally in harmony   most of the time in a way that we say, well, look, the fundamentals are sound. We accept   that Bobby hates   Derek or, you know, Stan hates Betty or whatever. These things come out in human relations. Yeah. They're they're gonna happen, but the fundamentals are sound. So that everything's how can people raise healthy families   if they are under debt burdens   and then you find out that they don't need to be under debt burdens. It's just of the creditor class operating a banking system   to benefit them so they can buy 80% of the hamburgers and you've got 20% for everybody else.  

And I I keep coming back to this because that's the thing all of us are I include myself, I'm at the effect of that.   Throughout life, we are all having to spend a lot of time   trying to understand how we're going to be able to spend some money next month to get what we want if we haven't got any money.   And this is by design, obviously.   And yet, the illustrations   certainly,   in Hudson's book, you know, about forgive them their debts.   The results for us, I think, as a as a culture completely inculcated   into this, whether we know it or not, would be mind blowing.   I mean, I want to turn on the news and see that. Right? I'm imagining   it just like imagining the story   of Germany having one and prosecuting,   you know, Churchill and all these other people. It's a very tantalizing thought. I'd like to read that book. Maybe I might get some time to write. It could be it would open up the mind.  

So, you know, on the news you want to see, the bank the meetings today with the central bank, so that the central banking system is to be closed down in its current state of affairs, and the ownership of the world's military system is to be handed over directly to the individuals of nations.   That usury is about to end.   We're going to phase it out over the next 3 to 5 years.   There will be debt forgiveness in all the key areas.   Right?   That see see it's just I'm just saying words.   That's just as easy to achieve, in practical terms, as what we've currently got. But there is a force stopping that happening   that says, no. The game is that we are to own everything and drive you into the pit if necessary   so that we can get a kick out of life by saying that we're in charge of it. And so   that's the issue. These people by definition, it seems to me have become godless   because, you know, if you love truth, you love God because   God is truth.  

We tend to operate on that as a basic principle of our operating system. It's when we thrive, it's when we're merry, when we're happy, when we're satisfied. It's present. We know that things are being done with integrity.   It's a thrill. You can't if you're an outsider looking in, you can't understand why everybody's so happy. We go, well, we're at peace and, we have challenges to deal with, and and those challenges are actually stimulating and exciting, and they don't result in 1,000 or millions of people being slaughtered for no good reason, or going off to fight with this other group because this guy wants a bigger castle.   And it's,   and it's at the level of human relations. We have bullies that build up and then they get a coterie of allies around them, and then they create this bullying culture,   and it happens in little villages. They get into bigger things than in counties, and then states, and then nations, and then they wanna bully somebody else, and they wanna own it all, and all this kind of stuff. And you're going, and we've created all this technology   to completely invalidate that process. You know, there is no shortage of anything. And so,   but without shortages, they can't step in and say we're gonna solve these shortages.  



[02:48:39] Unknown:

Actually   actually, Paul, Bob, what you're saying by the way, I'm sorry. I've I've missed about 20 minutes because You were down the pub again. It's alright. We know. No. You're having Internet issues, are you, Eric? It's good to have you back. Yes. It's good. But I'm okay. I I I'm taking the, aspirin, so I should be alright now. But I was gonna say,   why not   there's a defunct paper. I think it's called the daily sketch. No longer exists.   Why not try and use that as a template   and   write articles   in a daily,   sketch,   shall we say, style of 19 forties,   date it 1945   as if the axis had won   and write it in the style of 1945   or 1946.  

That would make a very interesting   newspaper to give out to these so called truth movements.   So you they'd read   that, you know, what would happen about,   Winston Churchill is now in court facing charges of this and that. What do you think of that for an idea?  

[02:49:42] Unknown:

I I think we have to do you you have to do it. I'm I'm not I'm just being blunt. It writing takes time   but the I think there are I think there are areas   of creative writing available to us   with a little bit of calmness and thought and getting yourself out of this milieu of all this fear porn. You've got to pull yourself out. We all have to take time out of it because it saturates you. It it does produce these instantaneous   emotional responses.   And we're stuck like rats in this emotional news cage just going round and round and round and round and round and go, oh, they're doing this. Oh, they're doing that. You know, we were talking about it earlier. You know, what they're going to drum up next week. So taking time away from that to look at how we   get back in touch with what we are   suited to do, which is not to resist   evil. It's to build good. It's a different proposition.  

It achieves the same result. Why do we want to I mean, you know, Bill Gates and these people should not be in the public domain.   They're they're terrorists.   You know, Paul mentioned it the other week. They use violence   to achieve political ends. That's the definition of terrorism.   George Soros is a terrorist. The Rothschilds family are terrorists. The central banking system are terrorists.   They have brought terror into the world. They brought death, war, ruin, poverty,   disease everything.   They're terrorists.   And yet, just stating this as a sort of factual thing   goes in a certain way, appeals to a certain aspect of the intellectual mind. But it's stories. I keep thinking about this a lot. You know, every nation has its myth, its national story.  

We're sorry about this the other day. You know, the what what's the one of Britain is, we built a lot of boats.   We happen to be able to build a lot of boats 500 years ago. And because of that, because we were an island and we could move large quantities of goods around using boats round the coast, we could get things moved around quicker than you could in Russia. Because the fastest thing you had in Russia was a horse dragging a cart. But here, we had boats, big barges and things with coal from Newcastle down to London and it cost nothing to move it because we stuck it on a boat and it just floated down with the wind. Right? I'm I'm being very simplistic about it. It's a major advantage   at that time in the world's history because of the limited amount of technology available. So we had to jump on everybody else, and that's what happened. That's our story. Then we're told we had a British Empire, and and in a way, we did because there's a lot of railways built and things like that, but that was an abused event. It was colonialism, and it was an abusing process because it's driven by the city of London. Now it gets more complicated.  

But without a national story,   you don't know. Like Patrick is saying, we don't know who we are. And you can say, well, this is all made up. Of course, it is. Everything's made up. What do we wanna make up? That's the thing. Our imagination what do we want to make up? I wanna make up that world that we all sense and feel   is the one that we know we wanna be at, and it's not perfect. It's not sort of utopia.   It's not that everybody's gonna love one another. It's that the that law   is growing in us. We are more and more of us, more and more of the time, are obeying the principles, the laws that we're actually designed to obey.   And that we push out those people that are abusing the law like   Gates, the terrorist, like Fauci, the terrorist, like Trump who's about to become a terrorist, and like this idiot Biden, and like Starmer, the assistant to terrorists. That's what they're doing.  

There's nothing magnificent about these people, is there? You you won't want your children to meet them. And there's that great, you know, that that sort of litmus test about politicians.   You look at them, and if you wanna find out whether you trust them, the question is, would you let them babysit your children? And you'll probably puke when you start thinking about it because you're gonna instantly know. Well Right? Got it. So that's a real emotional response. That's the truth there. Right? Bang. Got it. You know, I used to think about Gordon Brown. I used to puke at the thought of him even getting anywhere near my family.   And,   that's what we're talking about. And I think, so if we can imagine stories, if we can I'm going back that one from   Plato.  

Those who tell the stories   rule society.   And it seems to me that it's incumbent upon us to become the greatest storytellers   our people have seen for a long time. We really need   to become these amazing storytellers, and I mean literally storytellers because,   the imagination is real. Everything we see in the world, somebody was thinking about it first. That's why it manifested.   We love the old stuff because it's it was the thoughts of people in a in a state of better connection with nature. There was more decency around. I know there was warfare. I'm not sort of naive about that. But you you look at these older things, this is why we talk about architecture the way we do. We look at the way these buildings, the older buildings were designed and we go, look at these people   building these things that are beautiful.  

We like it. We just go, this is good.   This is what we're here to do. Not   watch, you know, Keir Starmer talk shit on the TV, lie, and look like some sort of, you know, deer in the headlights type idiot as he trashes our country doing things.   So, yeah, bang I'm banging on a bit. I'm on the soapbox, Paul. I just got on there for a few minutes. That's okay. You know? That's that's okay. You're you're due. You know?  

[02:54:56] Unknown:

But but when you mentioned terrorists, you missed   probably the the ones that are closest to general society, and that is the the cops.   It's the police. It's the lower level courts. It's the district attorneys, the prosecutors.   It's the mayors. It's the local codes enforcement officers.   Those are the freaking terrorists, and they're right down the block any day of the week.   You see them day in and day out.   The the real power structures   are not seen.   They're not known.   People talk about the Masons. I know Masons.   Okay?  

Personally,   32nd and 33rd degree Masons.   High level Masons.   I know them. I know them to be good people, and I know them not to know anything about any of the the twisted, manipulated   power structure that's above that everybody accuses them of. So the thing that I have come to believe,   the thing that I have come to understand   is the people that are actually in control, you've never seen them. You've never heard their names. You don't know what organization they belong to. They are absolutely, positively, completely hidden, and they have   put these other groups, the Illuminati, the Masons,   the Catholic church,   everybody else   out front, they're the ones that get the hatred. They're the ones that get the demonization.  

While the little secret itty bitty suckers   hide in their mahogany and walnut offices   behind the cold laden desks making decisions that affect 1,000,000 upon 1,000,000,000 of lives   every day of the week.   That's who we need to find out who's behind this stuff.   The terrorists   down the block,   they're just the foot soldiers. They're expendable.   And the guys above them, still expendable. The guys above them, still expendable. If you know their name, they're not in control.   That's a one thing you can take to the bank. If you know somebody's name, if you know the name of a group, they are not in control.   There's somebody above  

[02:57:05] Unknown:

them. I guess there's a lot in that part. I guess yeah. I I can see that. You'd mentioned that before, I think, a few weeks ago. And I but the the local thing is also to me, when you were addressing about local people is is as important because it's   possibly that at that level, this is where we begin to grow the space that we need to be in. And I mean, there are efforts over here with common law study classes and things, and they seem a little bit dry, and they lack muscle, or or from a certain distance, they do.   But the, I've seen I've seen more and more comments certainly across the board, you know, Twitter, YouTube videos, and everything, where people are saying over here. They say, well, the English constitution is the key,   the the reapplication of common law, so that there is,   a penalty system for these local bullies.  

It does exist. It needs to be brought back to life, so that it has   the force to act and to effectively pull these people and stop them behaving   in a way that hurts so many people.   And many I guess many of the people that go in the police force do it for the paycheck   Or they end up like that, and they end up doing terrible things. You know, it's that whole thing. I was simply following orders. So there's this removal of conscience, the removal of sort of real aliveness and connection to to what is good.  

[02:58:21] Unknown:

It's the removal of a of local personal accountability.   It is. I was just following orders.  

[02:58:26] Unknown:

Yep.  

[02:58:27] Unknown:

Yeah. It is. Oh, yeah. Spot on. Well, look at the Japanese army. I mean, they were actually brutalized,   and it was a pyramid system. You know, the top man kicks the other one who's lower be hit below him, and the bomb below him kicks the other one. And they were absolutely ruthless.   But you look at the Japanese now, you look at the Japanese soldier when they was taken out of uniform,   they were generally very nice people. Very polite. Yeah. Extremely polite. When they were just bullied into that situation. I mean, for example, in Vietnam or French Indochina as it was known then,   few people realized that the British   actually fought with the Japanese against the Viet Cong.  

That was before the Americans were involved. And it's a war that has been virtually wiped out our history books because,   there wasn't enough troops to fight the Viet Cong in 1945.   And the only troops that were there were,   Japanese POWs.   So what they did, they handed back their arms,   and they fought the Viet Cong under British rule. And they reckon that we're almost invincible. And if we would have been there for an extra 3 months, the Vietnam War with America would never have happened. We would have beaten the Viet   Cong. That's it. I don't know if you know much about that at all.  



[02:59:44] Unknown:

Well, I I I don't know, Greg. I mean, I'm I'm reasonably sure that, obviously, that for that war being managed at the top supposedly in great part by   people from the United Nations was,  

[02:59:56] Unknown:

run with a view to running America into a losing position intentionally. Wasn't That was well, no. That was Korea, the United Nations. Korea was the united 1st United Nations. Oh, was it? Okay. This was, now what happened is that with the Vietnam sorry. French in Jotun, it wasn't known as Vietnam then.   We handed after the war, I can't remember what year it was,   it back to France because it was French Indochina.   And the French had no experience of jungle warfare, but the Japanese   and the British did.   So the French made a complete hotchpotch of it, and they pulled out of French Endo   China in the I think it was about 1958,   59,   and left   friend NGO China to its own devices when it became Vietnam.  

And, of course, that's when the Americans got involved in 1964 with   the Bay of Tonkin incident   Yeah. Trying to stop the communist coming down from the North.   So   really, you know,   it's all   all politics because, again,   the British we were beating the Japanese and the Vietcong. They're absolutely and we've got Yeah. All this in Malaya.   Yeah. Sorry. He yes  

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Yes. Sorry. Well, I just wanna say that we have to remember   that,   Korea changed everything in America, that no longer   did the congress have to declare war.   It became a police action.   Totally and completely under the,   executive   branch of our government,   not We, The People.  

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Really? I didn't   know that. Right. Mhmm. Right. Is, in the schools, do they teach history? Do they actually teach the history of Vietnam or for in turn, Jo French and Joachana? Because I know that we were never taught anything about it when I was at school. And it's something I've only found out about in the last, what, 15, 20 years that the British were involved,   before the Americans.   And I know that the British were involved   unofficially during the Vietnam War when it took off in the 19 sixties. But, again, that's been written out of the history books.  

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It has. Listen, chaps.   We are 6 minutes past 11 o'clock here in the UK, which means we must be 6 minutes past 6 New York Eastern Time   and so on and so forth. So we've kind of overrun our our 3 hour   stint.  

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I was gonna play something, but one more song to to spin the program out with.  

[03:02:37] Unknown:

Well, we we could. Yes. We could definitely chosen by me,  

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and Rumble is still connected, and it was suggested by Rumble.  

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Right.  

[03:02:50] Unknown:

You mean you mean the Ronette song? This is what you're referring to. And we we do have, we have a hand up. Sketch, Sketch, do you got a  

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do you have a comment quickly? Yeah. Yes. Thank you. This is the daily sketch, and you mentioned the daily sketch.   You were talking about cults,   and you're talking about resisting.   I look at resistance as kind of like   the matrix and the battery that they portray.   And you need to, I think, revolt   versus resist.   And as far as cultish thinking,   preacher Jim Jones   said,   drink the Kool Aid.   Don't drink the Kool Aid. I yield, and have a good day. Thank you so much for letting me talk. Bye.  

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Thanks, Ketch. Ketch. That's   great. So,   yeah. We're gonna wind up now because, look, I just, otherwise, we'll never wind up. We'll all be back next week just talking and talking, which is great and wonderful. So hopefully, you'll be able to join us next week.   I meant to say this earlier in the show, really, but,   not that I think this will necessarily apply to everybody that's still in the chat. But if you haven't subscribed to the channel on Rumble, please do. It's all helpful.   The growth is slow and steady with the number of, followers,   and it's fine. I don't know how long these things are gonna last. I think our show is relatively tame in comparison to other things   at the moment. Although, of course, certain things have happened today, which might ruin our reputation on that front. But Oh, please.  

Those things are subtle. Gonna let me live that down, are you? It's okay. I'm gonna be taking it out of the recording. It's just so toe curlingly awkward. But,   no. I will, Paul. I'll forget it. Don't worry. It's all these things happen. Oh my god. What have I done? I'm gonna have to see a psychiatrist tomorrow. It's upset me so much, you know. You know? Well, you sound very distressed. You do sound distressed, Eric. Yes. I'm I'm sure that your the the idea that your Internet was failing was a complete cover for the fact that you're having to go off and blubber somewhere. We we know that, but I didn't really want to bring it up. Yes.  

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Bit of counselling of that, you know.  

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Yeah.   Absolutely.   So,   by the way, so yeah. So if you not follow the channel, please do. It's all helpful.   And what else was I gonna say? The image for today.   Okay. Now I was gonna try and do something. This is a bit lame, but I'm gonna mention it anyway at the end. We do really don't have time for it. It's obviously an image of the Pied Piper, which is allegorical in all sorts of wonderful ways.   But I'll probably release this   separately in the channel. I,   there's a poem about the Pied Piper,   by Robert Browning, which is absolutely marvelous, and I did a recording of it prior. Sounds a bit like a Blue Peter thing. We did a recording earlier, which we got one ready here right now. But I've I've done a recording of it. I thought, well, maybe I'll play in the show. But at 16 minutes long, it would kind of change the whole tone of what we're doing. It's a bit too long, really, to play in the show. But I'll probably release it as a separate video here on the channel if you like that sort of thing. I it's a wonderful, wonderful bit of use of language.   The Pied Piper of Hamelin and,   some tremendous stuff in it, particularly from the rat's point of view   and all these sorts of things. So I'll put that out. That's just a little bit of a bit of poetry that was a bit too long really to feature in the show. It would have taken up too much time.  

But thanks,   everyone,   in the studio. Thanks,   Paul and Patrick and Eric, of course. We'll be back again here next Thursday.   In the interim, what's happening   at the weekend? Oh, I'm on with Andy Hitchcock at 10 o'clock   Sunday morning UK time on Radio Soapbox Live because I think Maleficos is away   having   fun, which apparently happens every now and again, and we should all do that. So I'm gonna be filling in for Maleficus on the Lymeys for an hour on Sunday morning, And then after that, there'll be Ria Bow for 4 hours. I'm not on with her this week, but that's always a cracking listen.   And then on Sunday night,   Eric, you have a show at 8 PM, don't you, UK time? That's right. Yeah. Doctor Myles Fleetwood. With doctor Myles Fleetwood. And I might be I should be joining you for that. So that's 8 o'clock till to 10 o'clock. Yeah. You'll find that on Radio Soapbox as well. We pick that up and try and stream that there, and then we've probably even got your show on Monday night at 8 PM as well. But we can Oh, goody. Thanks. Yeah. Yeah. We've got to just slowly work these things in. And as I mentioned, we've got we've hopefully got somebody new joining the soapbox in the UK within the next few weeks. So that's something to look forward to as well. Okay. So cool. Brilliant.  



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Thanks everyone for being here. Yeah. Sorry, Paul. That's Paul. You want to say something? One more one more thing I need to add. All of those programs and platforms that you just mentioned, I will not be selecting any of the music played on those shows.  

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Well, you know got some. I wish I'd never mentioned bloody Captain Pugwash.   Anyway.   Oh god. You know? Oh, what have I done? Come easy go. Yeah. Steady on Eric.   So there we go. Anyway,   early a long, long time ago at the beginning of this show, many, many hours and moons ago, I think Warren   asked for this song, the Ronettes,   Be My Baby,   by Phil Spector and blah blah blah. We've got it. It's 2 minutes and 35 seconds. We're gonna play out with that. I'll say a few words at the end of it and we'll see you all next week. Hopefully, it will play. Here we go.  

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Thank you.  

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And that's it for this week. It's a wrap. As I said, we'll be back next Thursday, same time, same channel, same saucy humor and pithy comments and insights   from the crew. Thanks for being with us this week. We'll see you all next Thursday. Have a cracking weekend. God bless. Love you all. See you soon. Bye now.