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In this episode of the Radio Ranch with Roger Sayles, we welcome Travis, a host from RBN, who shares his personal story of dealing with family financial challenges following the unexpected passing of his brother-in-law. The discussion covers a wide range of topics, including the importance of understanding one's financial and legal status, strategies for managing debt, and the potential benefits of changing one's citizenship status. The conversation also touches on the emotional impact of loss and the importance of community support during difficult times.

Additionally, the episode delves into practical preparedness strategies, featuring Travis's innovative survival tablet, which includes a digital library of essential survival information and tools. The discussion highlights the significance of being prepared for emergencies, with a focus on communication tools like pre-programmed radios and the potential of LoRa technology for decentralized communication. The episode is a blend of personal stories, practical advice, and insights into the broader implications of financial and legal systems.

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As would   we,   Alvin, thank you very much for ushering us in again.   Alvin Lee in ten years after group from many years ago, fifth 50, almost 60. This   is scary to think about   years ago. Anyway, thank you,   Alvin, for your prophetic   lyrics. Here we go again on the Radio Ranch with Roger Sales. It is the date stamped today, the June   25.   And,   we're   assisted by a number of other folks   most of the time, quite a few, actually, but I'm not quite sure about today. But Paul's gonna mister Beaner is going to inform us on which of these entities are helping us extend our reach.   Aren't you, Paul?  



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Well, it's another light compliment today.  

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Uh-oh. Uh-oh.  

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We have, eurofolkradio.com.   Thanks to pastor Eli James,   and we have Global Voice Radio Network, my personal little private pet project.   The links to Eurofoc and Global Voice Radio are on our website,   thematrixdocs.com,   as well as the links to join us   using free conference call. We've got room for about a thousand of you. Come on down.   An open,   conversational   platform.   And,   yeah, let's do this.   Alrighty.  

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Well, we're awaiting their questions and comments from the thousands that aren't here.   Yesterday, we spent all day with our friend, Michael, up in Minnesota.   A farmer. Good good on you. I don't know, though. You know, Michael, what old Mike Bloomberg says. He says farmers are there nothing to do with farming. All you do is put a seed in the ground.   Right. Right, mister Bloomberg?   Man, what the heck is going on here? Let me see this here, Paul.   And so that was good that we got kinda distracted   from   the current events   with, things that really matter trying to show Michael that,   these guys are paper tigers, really.  

And, actually, the the Israelites are just chickenship high in transits. You know, they won't they won't do anything until they've got the clear cut   military or whatever advantage. Otherwise,   they're not gonna do anything because they're just chicken ship high in transit.   Mhmm. But, boy, if they got Bandoleros   and and   super automatic m sixteens and grenades and everything else, boy, they're really brave then. Oh, I mean and, of course, that's when they're fighting the Palestinians who use rocks.  

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Yeah. They're just police.  

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Oh, I just hate these people. I hate them with a passion, and it's been growing for many years. I hate you. You're listening. I know you're listening. You little Jewesses and Jewers   Jews and, you little sabotee and frankest, Zionist people.   And, I hate you. You know why I hate you? Because god hates you. And he said so two times in the bible. Once in Genesis, repeated verbatim in the New Testament,   Esau have I Jacob has I loved, and Esau have I hated.   He says that hated.   And people have a hard time realizing that God hates, but he does. He makes that statement twice in his book. And,   I mean, would you think that the people that God publicly hated might hate God? So look around, see who hates God?  

Mhmm.   This isn't rocket science. Pretty easy, really,   when you got the basics.   So, anyway, we'll talk about them no doubt again today. Maybe we'll have another Michael   today, Paul, who can get us off on a tangent. This one's pretty interesting. I was teasing you with it   right before the show, and I saw it on Harrison.   Saw pictures of it and said, I'm kidding. So what are the germ German particularly,   particularly, but I think the some of the European gals are doing so that they can go out in in their surroundings and not get raped?  

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I have no clue.  

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It's such a simple solution.   They're they're they're acquiring pigs   and putting pigs on leashes and carrying little miniature pigs with them. And if the, Muslims come to try and rape them in a gang, they just shove a pig in their face, and they run away.  

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Okay.  

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Really. I mean, I saw the pictures of it. K.   Wow. So, very, very,   well, fairly inexpensive. Pigs are pigs are really, you know, they're they're the smartest barnyard animal. Pigs are. Especially,  

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you know, the piglets, they're cute. They don't take up much room.  

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They don't.   They'd be I mean, and they've miniaturized them where people have them as pets in their houses.   Yep. Little miniature biggies.   So, good deal. I would imagine that industry,   a lot of the industry in Europe and Germany is going down the the pig raising industry may be on the upswing.   It might be a good place to put your put some of your investments, Paul, find a pig raising farm.  

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Mhmm.   Okay.  

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Oh, lord. Well, good morning. It's Wednesday. As I said, I hope it's as pretty where you are is where I am.   It's not bad here. What else is that? Oh, there's not something with great significance yesterday.   I mean, great significance.   A president of The United States Of America   publicly dropped the f bomb. Did you happen to see that?   No. I didn't. No. Oh. No. I didn't. Oh, boy.   It's classic. Well, there's Mark. Mark, did you see president Trump drop the f bomb?  

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I did. He was not happy.   And and who he was not happy with was even more entertained.  

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What? He was not happy with Israel or what? No. He was handed off to the no. Oh oh, yeah. He's not happy with them at all. Mark, you wanna tell the story?   Go ahead, Roger. I've got my hands full right now. Okay. Well, he was going off to NATO. I just was speaking at NATO. Here's some NATO meeting and somewhere. I'm not sure where. And,   the reporters, of course, the gaggle of reporters are out there, and they ask him some question   about all this continuing   hubbub about Iran. And and and at the end of what he was saying, he goes, I'm excuse me, audience. I'm gonna,   alright. I'll I'll substitute. And he and he says these people have been fighting and so long and hate each other so much that they don't know what they're   found under cardinal   knowledge in doing   and walks off to the helicopter to go to the plane.  

Right there. I mean, you heard it. You saw it. A president of The United States dropping the f bomb. That's about either how there's I guess there's two ways you could look at this. How far we've come How far. And,   and the circumstances   because he's clearly really aggravated, and he clearly aggravated at Israel   even over Iran and said so publicly, Paul. Publicly.   So, yeah, heck of a little clip. And,   and, you know, they've been as I said the other day, you dance with devil and you dance to his tune, and and that's what Trump's been doing. They've got him dancing,   but I think he's breaking away.  

I think he's realizing what's going on and what really peed him off was he cut this   It's gonna happen in twelve hours peace treaty.   And in the first hour, Israel popped more bombs and missiles at them than they have almost the whole time.   Mhmm. So that's the spirit of the bully. Yo. You're gonna make a peace treaty? We're gonna show you how bad we are.   Good. Oh oh oh, you wanna get out of the tax movement? We're gonna go to your employer and stay with the reinstitute your withholdings to the maximum. That's who we are.   That's that attitude. That's that hutzpah crap.  

They're just despicable. They're I I wanna say individuals, but I'm not sure they're people.   These are monsters,   and they're despicable.  

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K?  

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Not all of them. There's a lot of nice Jewish folks out there. We got one right on board, Dan, with us here who's just who who who I personally really like, okay?   And,   it just amazes me.   And the thing that pisses me off about the rest of the Jewish community is   most of them won't stand up and finger the Zionist.   That's what's got to happen. We can't do it. We play right into their hand doing it. The Jewish people as a whole have got to stand up and say no more. This is who these people are. This is what they're doing. It's gonna harm a whole Jewish community, and we want to identify them and separate ourselves from them. That's what Dan has done.   And that's why I like him so much here with us, you know.  

And so,   Jewish people, man, they're the good Jewish people are fun to be around. I've I've got Jewish friends. I've had them my whole life. I mean, look, There's more Jews in the record business than there are in Hollywood.   Okay? They control totally the record business.   And,   I I had a lot of very dear Jewish friends in there. I had a Jewish roommate for five years,   at my own house. You know?   So, anyway,   these people gotta be identified, and that's what's happening is they're being identified. And the worse they try their Hudspa crap, the more they get identified   because they don't have control of the media anymore to squash that stuff.  

You know, I think the the establishment media stands, like, 16%   of of viewing or something is pretty ridiculous. Okay? They've lost their power, and it's just like Newt Gingrich told them in the forward of the fourth turning,   book written back in the nineties by the Tofflers, I believe,   husband and wife, team, and they asked Newt Gingrich to write the forward.   And he said, you're playing with fire with the Internet. It bypasses your filters.   They didn't listen.   That Hudspa attitude again,   and it's gonna be their downfall. It's gonna be their demise. Don't know when. Wish you'd hurry.   But,   one of the other things at play here,   after the boomers, after our generation kind of moves   moves   to the graveyard,   all these younger generations, man, they're not caught in into Israel at all,   and they know that. And so as these demographics   get more, they're they're gonna lose their power base and their control base. So that may be another reason they're trying to do everything they can and shove it through right now.  

So it's, anyway, it's very interesting. Never heard a president drop the f bomb. I was shocked,   kinda. Saw the clip two or three times. Mark, welcome aboard, buddy. You back from washing the dishes or what you were doing? Yeah.  

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Okay.   No.  

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Okay. Hold on.   So I'm on the road. Oh, you're on the road. Okay. Can you hear me okay? Well, you were clipping right there, but you might move into a better shift. So I can now. Yeah.  

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So Alright.   So, yeah, I saw that, and I'm I'm glad that you,   you know,   this is why they want   everybody's digital identity before they log on to the Internet. It is all about   control and Yep. You know, you can see it coming.   And then like yesterday,   I want something more useful. I may start tuning into it more than a show, but,   and again, it's hard for me to listen to Alex Jones. But,   man, he's just got   the   news. He says, forget tomorrow's news today.  

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It really   it really tests you. He really tests you at times.   Yeah.  

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Yeah.   And and he's he says he's ballistic over the top because it wakes people up. I get it. But   to hear a steady date of that, I just can't do it every day. Yeah. No. It's hard. Found   his x account. I don't know how I stumbled across it, but I I found his x account,   and he does these little snippets.   And that's a lot better. And he had a really good interview with Nick Fuentes.  

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I saw that yesterday.  

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Oh, wow. That that that guy is plugged in. He's impressive. You know how old he is? Did you get that out of the interview?  

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Well, I think he's 16, ain't he? He was twenty sixteen to me. He he he might look at. He's 26   to have the, command of even on the surface of political stuff the way he did. He does pretty sharp guy. I was pretty impressed yesterday.  

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Yeah. So I'm ten years off.  

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Yeah.   Yeah. The sixteen twenty six. Okay. Uh-huh. Congratulations  

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on the Thunder, winning the NBA the other night. Oh, well, thank you.  

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That was quite a deal. Yesterday, they had a huge parade.   And, I mean, they had   it was estimated to be,   over 500,000.   They were saying about 600,000   people,   and it was so cool. There was no,   you know, nobody fighting. Everybody come together to celebrate   the, it was really hot, though. I'm glad I wasn't there. I mean, the it was so hot. The Thunder players started shedding their shirts, and you can see they're perspiring. It's how hot it was. Wow.   And   at one point, they were on a double decker bus, and they were like, this isn't working for us. So they stopped the bus,   got the bus, and the players started walking the parade route,   took the trophy, and we're letting people just pack the trophy as they were going by, and they were taking pictures   with fans, and   it was really good. They have a a website.  

I think it's okc   thunder,   and you get some real up close, video way better than the television. So I figured they had their own camera crew that was following them around, and it was probably   the Thunder franchise. But   it, was quite a game. I know Julie was watching enthusiastically   and Right.   They just put them   on a Sunday,   and they got about 10 points ahead, and they never lost that lead. Yeah. And they accelerated  

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it, I guess. It would there weren't any riots at the celebratory  

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parade either. Oh, no.   No. Not at all. Yeah. No. We didn't burn anything down. We didn't ruin anybody's   property.   Uh-huh. You know?   And, you know, when everybody's toting a gun, they get real polite.  

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I'm a I'm amazing at that phenomena, isn't it? You know, Oklahoma's a very conservative state. I'm sure glad to have a bunch of you Oklahomians,   onboard here with us. I don't know if you heard it Monday or not,   Dan I mean,   Mark, but Dan Swain, who was   one of my students,   down here, he lived in Ecuador. He's a retired airline pilot and,   passed away of a heart attack over the weekend. And he was   a really great guy. I really I I really, will miss him.   Just a great guy. Hear that. Yep. Me too. You know, another one of the good patriots. He was from Tulsa. Him and his wife both. And,   unfortunately,   she's up in The States for,   on something another mission, and he dies while she's up there. And he   I I can't imagine how, you know, been long time marriage and all that, and it's just devastating   to the spouse course.  

And, it's just real sad. He was a great guy.   So, anyway, miss him.   I tell Jack to quit calling me with all these people I like dying. You  

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know?   Well, the the older you get, the more that happens. Well, isn't that the darn truth?   My my grandmother lived to be 102.   And, you know, towards her latter years of life, she was like, I don't have any more friends.   You know, all of her siblings had passed away, her immediate family,   you know, and,   so,  

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you know, it's just the way it happens. The longer you live, the the more that happens. Yeah. That was my mom was the last of that whole generation on her side of the family. So it does. So time marches on.   I wanted to I don't I didn't send it to you because I know you're swamped, but I got a   a good email from a guy, got g. We'll just call him g, retired army officer of thirty years. K.   And,   filed his paperwork in May.   And then,   got in some sort of a battery of a correspondence, and I'm not sure what correspondence   it was. He didn't send me a copy.  

But it was IRS, and he was saying,   we haven't received your tax return formally.   And, that, there's a 500 other 500,000   other people in the same   in the same position.   And turns out that he   he he filed all his taxes. I wrote him back. I said, well, if, you know, you filed your affidavit for this year, it only applies for this year. The previous year's year and year other status, you still got that situation going on. But it turns out he'd filed all those. He filed all those. So it wasn't even in case it 2024?  

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Yes. So he's filed all his taxes including last year. Yes. And this affidavit  

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submission triggered this letter.   Wow. So these are these are tactics just as I speculated   here recently.   These are tactics. It seems that they're trying out of desperation because they can't do anything else.   And,   they can't stand it because this is the big hook of their whole plan is to get you and your future generations,   on their user usury train.   And,   so now we see that's what we do is we break that. You can see the reaction. State department doesn't react. Well, they might send a bluff letter or something, maybe a errant phone call. We've only had a couple of those,   but, there's nothing they can do.  

And the basic thing is because   we've crossed the barrier and realized that they don't have the power we do or tricked out of it, and we know take it back. And   and, boy, they don't like it, apparently, which is fantastic   to me. It gives them one more signal.   There's dark clouds on the horizon,   Zionist,   thieving lion, murdered bastards. The ones that are listening right now, you take this back because we hate you, and our message is gonna grow because a whole lot of other people hate you too. And when they get a handle on this and it sits with them just a little bit because, you know, we usually don't get it immediately. There's a lot of depth here.   And, but after it sinks in and you start realizing all the things   that have been done to you and our country and the world really through this mechanism  

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Right.  

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Oh, buddy, there's gonna be some hell to pay.   Yeah. It can be some hell to pay, you bastards.  

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Go ahead. Go ahead. We had our trust we had our trust training last night, and I talked just about that, towards the end. Therefore, we're doing our question and answer session, after I teach.   And,   you know, I was just sharing how   how much   that your your work,   has freed up people. And once you wrap your mind around that   and know that you don't have to walk on eggshells in fear of get losing your your citizenship status,   and that you don't have to worry about at least federal tax filings,   you know, or paying estimated taxes or any of that stuff. You if you structure things right and all the money flows to you,   then you're not filing a tax return.  

Your business isn't having to file a tax return.   It just is liberating  

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and empowering. So It's the key to the whole thing. Much, Roger. It just And they they cannot take it away from you. That was our lesson from era,   v Rusk, era era what I can't think think of some of the, s what's that guy's name? Afraheem. Afraheem v Rusk. Because case Afraheem v   Rusk. Yeah. Wait. What did we learn? We learned you've got to give your rights away, even these rights. You can't just trick get tricked out of them again now that you hopefully,   you could write an affidavit and volunteer back in.   They'd certainly accept you. I'm sure. Well, I know it. Yep. But you've got to do it. They can't take it. That's tyranny. You've got to give it away just like Afroheem did.  

K?   So   it's just some of these print thinking about it? Yeah.  

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What what I'm thinking about it, what what I also brought up was,   you know, this system is designed for US citizenship.   Right? It's all the forums,   all the licensing,   all the stuff   is designed for a US citizen, and now our society,   you know, expects that.   Right?   So we have this cultural thing that certain   things like licenses   might be required like a driver's license. Right?   So I just want people to   now if you're fighting the, you know, right to trouble, god bless you. I support you. Maybe we might have to be in that boat someday. I hope not.   Until then,   you know, I I'm gonna continue using a driver's license   and   as Paul and thank you, Paul Beaner, for bringing this out. After the rule of necessity,   the rule of necessity.  

And every once in a while, you'll see that stated in some court cases.   But for out of the rule of necessity and to keep the peace,   especially on the side of the road when the policeman's got a gun on his hip. Yep. I wanna keep the peace and give him what I can give him and and go on down the road.   You know? So   this just   when you don't have to walk on eggshells thinking any little thing you sign   might cause you to lose your citizenship status. Yeah. It just doesn't work that way. Not gonna happen. So were you No. Here  

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Mark, the other day, we had one of these traffic things come up. I forget which one. And they got pulled over, and they gave them the passport card.   And then the cops go into all this stuff. And he says, you have a driver's license.   And and and and they didn't present it. They presented the passport card. Now this, I thought, that came up in the conversation from the Brain Trust here.   I thought this was really good.   And somebody said, well, why don't you tell them I give you the passport because I'm not in commerce.   If I were in commerce, I'd give you the driver's license.  

Oh, that's a good response. Ain't that good? Excellent response. Yeah. I mean, that is a that's I'll tell y'all all to remember that and put it in your memory bank. That's a real good way to come back on these people. K? And now you've got that in Montana, Roger? It it may have been one of her friends or something. But right there, these cops have got these cameras on. Right there from the start, you've made your declaration. Oh, I'm not in commerce. I didn't give you the driver's license.   Man, that's gotta be powerful should it go further.  

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Yeah. The other thing that, Christy did, she was like, I'm not gonna give you those documents,   run my passport. I'm registered with the Department of State. I love this this confidence.   I'm registered with the Department of State, and she is,   and so has everybody else that's done the proper   filling,   and run my passport and see if they don't tell you to kick me loose. I think she's like, call them   and see if they won't tell you to kick me loose.   And   when the cop come back, he's all nervous and, you know, says have a nice day.   So,   I think he may have ran her her   her information,   her passport,   and if it went through the NCIC   system,   it comes back with these DNDs.  

Now   DND people have mistakenly thought that means do not detain. Yeah. I'm I'm one of those. Looked it up. I was one of those. Yeah. I went and yeah. I went and looked it up, and it has to do with the,   no data. I forgot what the d stood for. The first d,   the n d stands for no data, and they don't have anything on them. So but I believe the police see that. They see a DND, and now they're nervous.   And they probably think,   so mistakenly,   that they're not supposed to detain them. Well, it was the run the passport to see that.  

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Right. Sarah and her experience with CPS in about the same time, I think it was Lisa from Southern California,   got in one of those,   DUI kind of traps. And they the guy looks at it at hers and says go over the hill over there. She gets over the hill in a little valley, and there's, man, all kinds of pull jail buses and 15 or 20 cop cars. And the guy comes up to her, and he goes away for about ten minutes and comes back. And his comment was very interesting. He said, I've never seen one of these before.   DND.  

It's what she thought it was. Okay? So that's the first time that came up.   And, it's just very interesting. But for those of you out there, you know, this traveling and driving is the biggest   sticky wicket we've got. I guess more people into the into the audience with the beast. You know?   And these are a couple of things you might can use on the side of the road to assist you,   especially that first one.   Okay, Wahi. But I know you're there, Kurt. But you're gonna come in and change the damn subject, and we're talking about something very important.   K? Because you always want to what do you think about the I just wanted to reiterate.  



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Okay. Go ahead, Mark. We'll get Hey, Roger. I just want to reiterate   that   you having a driver's license and maintaining it   does not cause you to lose your citizenship   status. Nope. This is a rule of necessity. Everybody should just soak in. Yeah. The only way   that you can lose your citizenship   status as a national   is to fill out another affidavit and say,   it's my intent to be a US citizen  

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and not a national. Yeah. This freedom stuff's too hard. Way you can give it up. Yeah. It's just too hard. I can't do it anymore. I wanna come back into the pink cloud.  

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Well, it's like a Matrix movie. Hold on. Look. I got Waheed first. Jump back into the Matrix.  

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Okay. Waheed, hold on. Hey, guys. Let's see what no. Hold on. Waheed, you're first.  

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Yes, Roger. Roger,   I left,   something from Greg Hunter in the chat,   and I left and there's a,   gentleman   who's a graduate of West Point.   He gives a good argument, a black gentleman,   as to why the statue confederate statues   and confederate flags do not   his argument is against the removal of those things and why that's not   relevant.  

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But you should listen to his argument. It's in the chat. I don't need his argument. I agree with him. All that the communists are doing is putting things down the memory hole so they can then wipe people's memory that those things and those people existed and happened and carry them on down the communist path. That's exactly why that happens.   Okay. Mirka was in there.   Thank you, Wai. Mirka. Good morning, Roger. Morning.  

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I think you said Sarah, but,   it's Lisa, and she has that recording   Yeah. For the DMV I said around in '23.  

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I said around the same time as Sarah.  

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Oh, okay. Yeah.   Okay. And then Daryl had his experience with the same thing on,   in 2021.  

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Okay.  

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Yes. That's right. Okay. Now who was the guy trying to get through there a minute ago?  

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Hey.   Thanks, sir.   I'm taking questions.   I'm a newbie, and I'm not Hold on. Assist  

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Well, hold on. You're a newbie. I wanna know if you could. I like to address you by your name or what you one to be called and not as. My name's Travis.   It's what, Ralph? Travis.   Travis. Hey, Travis.   Okay. Are you not down in, in Texas, are you?  

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No, sir. I'm in Alaska.  

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Oh, you are. Great. What part?  

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North North part of the state.  

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Fairbanks North or or North Slope North or what? Yeah. North Of Fairbanks. Yeah. Slope Work. Okay. Well, I graduated from West Anchorage High School in 1966.   Lived up there for four years. Loved every minute of it when I was a kid. So I know a little bit about Alaska. It's changed quite a bit because the North Slope.   But let's see. Travis, alright. How'd you find us? That's the other question I wanna ask you.  

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My friend Ken told me to call in. I talked to Ken a couple weeks ago, and and,   my, sister's husband passed unexpectedly   about a month ago. Yes, sir. And, you know, I've been thinking about doing the status change for quite some time. And   with,   my sister's husband passing and just kinda, like,   death getting close to home Yeah. Yeah. You know, just trying to take a ways to help my sister. You know, the primary breadwinner is gone, and she's just a teacher.   And, so she incurred a lot of debt after you know,   during this time. And so, anyway, I'm just trying to figure out ways to help her, like, you know, retain her money, keep the house   where the kids grew up. You know? So   Ken told me that I should call in and, you know, get me and my sister's, you know, status corrected, and that that'd be a good start.  

And so I thought, you know, maybe I just figured it out myself, do it first. And No. No. Don't figure don't don't try and do that.  

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Don't try and figure it out yourself.  

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We've got the path that's tried. Well well, I mean, you won't work.   Right.  

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Work with you guys and figure   do this. You know? It's doesn't it's not that hard. I'm pretty familiar with the topic. But Okay. You know, for some one reason or another, haven't haven't got off my butt and done it yet. So Okay.  

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Kinda figured now is a good time to get started. You know? Well, it is. Like, you know, like, I mentioned earlier, Dan Swain,   who do it. At least Dan died   knowing the truth and a and a free man. That's more than a lot of people that have been on this mortal coil have I could say.   And,   that to me is an important thing,  

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that you  

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there's only a few people in the history of the world who'd ever had this status, if you look at the great proportion of people that have lived on this earth.   So,   well, Travis, how can we help you? You say your sister's died,   and, she's been hit with this. Did, her husband have insurance by any chance?  

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Yeah. He's he had some insurance luckily.   Okay. That helps. But, you know, they've   he was kinda robbing Peter to pay Paul type thing and getting himself in a, you know, credit card debt. Uh-huh. Well, that's the system that's designed for that.   Yep. Yep. So, basically, you know, they have home equity line of credit that probably needs to get paid down or some credit card debt that she's on.   And I guess, you know, I thought about just telling her to walk from it, but I don't know.  

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That's a great good idea right this second. So Well, well, in my I'm just looking for a little advice on You know, credit is very interesting. And, of course, it's all created by this mechanism of us answering those two questions. Yes.   And, you know, having a birth certificate attached to our birth that they can,   use as collateral.   And, so the whole thing is designed for exactly to happen. What happened to her husband   is designed to do you ever have hamsters when you were a kid, Travis?  

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My kids did.  

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Well, you know, in the middle of the night, those hamsters are in that little hamster wheel. You make him you make him put the cage in in the child's room because it smells a little bit. And so in the middle of the night, that hamster's running that wheel like crazy, and that's what they've got us on. It's a great analogy for our, system.   They get you on the hamster wheel, and then what happens   is they start decaying the value and the purchasing power of the note underneath you. And you start getting piled up with debts with this twenty, twenty three, 25%   APR usury interest,   and there's nothing you can do but keep running on that wheel.  

And then they start making the wheel go faster. Now you gotta run faster. It's a vicious   trap.   And,   your   sister's husband fell right into it as many people do. You know?   Right.   Mark,   I don't know about all of her circumstances.   And you got any immediate ideas from what Travis has told us so far, Mark?  

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Because Mark I missed what he was trying I missed his whole story.  

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Okay. Price. Yeah. Yeah.   Can we get her story to Mark here first? Mark up, please.   Sister's basement died.   Yeah. I'll I'll just, thumbnail. Sister's husband died,   left her with a lot of debt, credit cards, etcetera. It was a little bit of insurance, and Travis is wanting to see and change status himself and see if any of the what we do can help her. Now you mentioned to me on the side a while back a debt program that you had stumbled across that you were very impressed with.   Are you still in, in touch with us both? That may be an answer. I don't know. That's a little  

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that's a little different situation.   If a person's passed away,   a spouse has passed away,   it really depends   on what state they're in   because,   like, California and Texas are community property today.   So   a spouse is responsible for the other spouse's debt.   And   if they live in that kind of state, they might end up having to bankrupt their that account or that, you know, those accounts.   If they're in a non community state   and the spouse is not responsible,   then I don't think the creditors are gonna have a leg to stand on.   And it'd be up to them whether they wanna pay off the creditors or not.  



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So Travis will ask the management team. Some of it's in her name.   Yeah. Some of it's in her name, and he was a joint signer   on one a couple of accounts. But Arizona. What's that? Arizona.  

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I don't recall if Arizona's community property or not. I don't just don't recall off the top of my head.  

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But if it is, he's gonna be responsible for all of it.  

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Right.  

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Okay. So that's the way that it a hardship on him.   On her. If that creates a hardship on him, then he's gonna have to, you know, find out a way what's gonna best work around that, whether it be filing bankruptcy   or,   you know,   I mean, I do know of a a debt program, but it's for paying off debt early.   And if you absolutely have no money left over   to, you know, survive on and you're spending more than you're bringing in, they won't work for you. You need at least a couple of bucks and literally only   mean, like,   you know, like, $10 extra a month if you can do that.  

Then I have a program that   you can pay off your debt, including a mortgage   in five to seven years.   It's amazing.  

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Wow.  

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May I I might be interested in getting that link someday from you guys. Okay. Roger. Hold on. Hold on. Mirka's chomping at the bit. Another guy   halt the conversation.   Yes, Mirka.  

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Hey,   Travis.   This is Mirka.   I spoke to, Ken mentioned,   something going on with,   your family, and   he did he did mention it to me, and,   it would help for her to have,   you know, learn about what we're doing and understand that   the affidavit   would help her   in in some way keep,   the authority,   you know,   The United States,   supposed presumed authority people,   you know,   away from her in in   in many ways in protecting her and in protecting,   the children also.   And,   so if you wanna, get in touch, I can give you more information.   Being a private individual,   you become the private the authority,   and,   you remove yourself from their jurisdiction. So there's a lot of things that could   help,   you know, in her situation,   especially protecting herself and the children,   from the grasp of CPS. So,   if you know, I I did, he did mention   something to me about it,   and I don't mind getting on the phone,   with you and your your sister to talk about,   you know, what what could happen or, what can   help and how this all works.  



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I'd appreciate it. Thank you. Yeah. Yeah. Are you already   Mark, are you two already in touch, or you're in touch with the guy that Ken told him to come here?  

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Ken Ken is in touch with him. Okay. And he mentioned it to me. So Okay.  

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Yeah. I can Yeah. Can I get your phone number from Ken?  

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Yep.   My phone number, and and we can get in contact by email too and Okay. On Telegram too because I'm on national status freedom on Telegram.  

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Everybody knew.   Myrca is one of the Myrca is one of the folks that bellied up to the bar and wanted to do something, and she started a Telegram group, national status freedom, three different words.   And she'll quiz you, guys, to make sure you're okay.   And,   that's one resource. We've got Dave and Kaye. We got a number of different people that have come to the their own initiative, their their own time, their and and put together these resources for everybody.   Nationalstatus.com   is another one. They've got AI attached to stuff. We've got booklets on the website you can copy in the handout or we've got a number of different resources, Travis, what I'm trying to get across. Thank you, Mirka. Now who was the guy that was trying to say something?   Okay. I'll we'll find out. There's more.  

The fellow that was trying to say something along the same time as Mirka.  

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Yes, Roger. Sheldon here. I just looked it up. Arizona   is a community property state. I'm done. There you go. Thank you, Sheldon.  

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So so does that mean any debt that he let's say he bought like, had some credit cards in his name,   and he ran up $3,040,000   dollars or whatever. Does that mean she's responsible for his debt too because they were married? Yes.  

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Yes. Yes. That's what it means. Yep. Welcome to Arizona. Yep.   Yeah.  

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Yeah. Great.  

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Roger.  

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Yes, Larry.  

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Yeah. I found this,   to go along with, answering that question.   Generally, a surviving spouse is not responsible for their deceased spouse's credit card debt   if their name is not on the account. However, there are exceptions   such as in community property states like what Mark just brought up or if the surviving spouse is a cosigner or joint account holder.   In most cases, the debt is paid from the deceased spouse's estate.   Community property states are these. In these states,   Arizona,   California,   Idaho,   Louisiana,   Nevada,   New Mexico,   Texas,   Washington,   and Wisconsin,   spouses share responsibility for debts acquired   during the marriage regardless of whose name is on the account.  



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Interesting. That's Wow.  

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Thank you, Larry. I I never get tired of being right. Yeah. Right. That's a joke. Well, Mark, that's why we well, that's why we like having you around here so much because I don't know all that stuff.  

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And, we can we can help. Both of us can help a lot of these folks. Yes, Mark.  

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Roger,   California, you I don't know if I told you.   When I wrote up that an affidavit to the DMV,   I wrote them   to release,   that that I'm I'm the owner on the under my property,   like, my   vehicle.   I gave them an affidavit.   I send it up to the,   also to the   it's   god. What's her name?   She's she's the controller of California,   and I send it to the secretary of state as as,   the state   and the controller because they they presume   they they,   what is it? They safeguard property   that is uncleaned.   So when you're a private individual,   you can send   an affidavit   or put it on an affidavit that that's your if it's the the house or anything is on   on,   it's paid off and it's your property,   then   you should be able to say this is my property   and put it on an affidavit   and,   take that property   off out of their control   and put it on an affidavit to state that   this is my property and,   they have no authority over it. They have no authority over them,   the the private individual   or their property. And they didn't object, did they? It's an idea.  



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They did you have you done this, or you're just floating this? I've done it. I've done it already. Did they object?  

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They have not.   Then silence deems consent, doesn't it? And that's this is this is what I'm saying. It's like, even with the,   registration,   you know, I removed myself from that Mhmm. And,   gave them I told them, like, they have no authority,   and I do not   consent or authorize or ask them to I mean,   consent or authorize them   to use my   license number or,   coerce or   threaten   me or trespass   on me   when,   in in trying to control my property or or me. So I wrote it down,   and they have not, you know,   rebutted.   And,   yeah, sent as deemed consent   for on their part.  



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Alright. Marcus Path Path   Path   initiating   again.   Yes, Paul.  

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Okay. This is not financial advice, but what I would do,   if that was me,   is I would take all the credit cards   and all of the interest rates and the balances,   Get those together. Figure out which cards are the most costly.   The highest is interest rate and closest to the   limit, the highest balance.   Those are the most costly.   Set those   in a pile to be concentrated on. The other cards just leave them in another pile to let it ride. The home equity line of credit is probably gonna have a huge interest rate. That's gonna be one of the ones that she's gonna wanna peck away at,   very quickly.  

And then   the mortgage,   that's the third plan.   The credit cards that,   that are okay, they've got reasonably low balances, they've got reasonably low interest rates,   those,   she uses   to buy everything she buys in a month   and   then makes a payment equal to what she bought in the month   to each card that she used.   Okay? So if she   spent a $150   on one card that typically has a $65   minimum payment,   she uses the card for a 150 and pays a 150.   That qualifies as her monthly payment. So, basically, she let that card ride   for that minimum payment   and then take any money left over   because   she had been able to make those payments ride on the lower cards,   concentrate on a payment   against the balance of the higher interest or higher balance card that she wants to concentrate on. And once that one is paid down,   then   she starts attacking the home equity line of credit   doing exactly the same thing,   letting the minimum payments ride on the lower interest cards and then focus payments on the HELOC.  

Once the HELOC is paid off,   if her mortgage   is reasonably young and she's still in the paying a ton of interest period,   she   can start making principal only payments in addition to the monthly mortgage payment, make a principal only payment, and start bringing that balance down, forcing them to reamortize   that loan.   If she and then once   everything else is taken care of, she can start focusing on the cards that she let ride, paying those down. And before she knows it, she'll be debt free.   And no harm, no foul   because everybody gets paid, and she goes on with life without   an iron chain around her neck. Now that is not financial advice.  

I did kick off a recording   at the beginning of when I started talking. I will stop it, and I will make that recording available to you for review later. Or you can just listen to the archive at,   one hour or at forty five minutes into the program.  

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You might need to listen to that more than once for sure.   Travis, let me ask you a question. You mentioned it has,   and you might explore this,   both,   both types of bankruptcy.   If she would qualify   for   reorganization   as opposed to liquidation,   that the bankruptcy court might could help her get rid of some of that overhanging.   If you're carrying balances like that, those are hard to deal with. Okay?   So Yeah. Just another suggestion of looking into bankruptcy. Mark, what do you think?  

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Well,   this is also the reason why if you had a proper trust in place,   it would be very easy to just file bankruptcy   and get rid of it, wash your hands. You know, you're talking about   fiat money that was created   during the loan process. So, it's not like these banks are out anything. Yeah. You know, now, if it's an individual that you got some kind of of credit with, that's a little different or   independent   business.   But if you're just talking about credit cards, HELOCs,   you know, that stuff,   then, you know,   it's just funny money. And I have no problem   with putting a bankruptcy on that if I'm in financial harm. Right. And in two to three years,   your credit will be back   to to good.  

Yeah. And and because,   they know that you can't file another bankruptcy for seven years. Right. So they get you back on the hook. It's just a game.   She will have she will have off been a lot simpler.  

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Was in a very short period of time. I'm sorry, Mark, for stepping on you. Go ahead. This had been a lot simpler  

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if they'd already had their property in a trust.   You know, I don't I don't think they could be transferring it now. They might be able to, but the problem is if you go file bankruptcy,   the that bus, that trust because there's it it was created after the fact. After somebody died   and you go transfer a bunch of property into a trust all of a sudden. Fraudulent. And then go file bankruptcy,   that they'll just shred your trust. That's called   fraudulent. Needs to be done in advance.  

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Fraudulent conveyance.  

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Yes. Exactly.   Fraudulent   conveyance of property.  

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Yep.   So anyway Travis'   There's a couple of ideas for you. We'll keep shooting to match you, Travis, so don't get overwhelmed. Go ahead, Marco.   You probably already are. I was gonna say,  

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the main thing the priority   of this whole thing is the status change and learning about it, understanding what that means.   So,  

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you know, let me know when Well, I'm not sure what We can talk. All this other stuff was incurred when they were still in the other status. So, certainly, it'll help them from this point forward,   but I'm not sure how much bearing you can take and put on that from changing status. Cool. It's a good idea to I don't need Roger. Travis. So yeah, Mark. Right.  

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I mean, you should certainly try that, but the way I see it is even if you change your status, you had a contract with these people Yep. Regarding your loans and credit cards and so forth. And I don't see how   being a national or even declaring that that's your private property You're gonna have any would come into play, especially if they come into state court. Now if this is federal,   absolutely, I think you could probably stop it   with the national status. But Brilliant. Because it's a contract and if they go after you, you're gonna be in state court.   I don't know how   the national status is gonna bear in that kind of scenario. But, you know, your mileage may vary and,   certainly doesn't hurt   to try the administrative route first. Absolutely.  



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Right.  

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Okay. So yep.   So what you got any questions, Travis? I think we just probably, like, gave you a drink of water out of the fire hydrant.  

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Yeah. I mean, there's a lot to process here. I mean, this is all pretty fresh. And, you know, she's   she's just gonna have to work through the next  

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month or two, figure it out where she's at with everything. But Well, yeah. On top of going through progress. So on top of going through the grieving process, that's never easy. How long ago did he pass?  

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About a month ago. So we just had celebration of life, and it went good. Yeah.   You know, I think that was probably a big closure thing for his parents and her   and the rest of the family. He was a well liked guy, really good good dude.  

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Well, only the good die young.  

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One more comment.  

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Yeah.  

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Yes, Paul. No comment there.   One more. I don't know. You know, I got that's a whole mystery too. You know? Like, what how and what happened. He was a bigger guy, but,   I mean, not, like, entirely overweight, just like a like a football player size. Uh-huh. So we don't really know what happened. But Yeah. Anyways,   it's a dev been devastating. She's got two young kids.  

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How old how old are the how old are the children?  

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Eight and 13.  

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Oh, boy. So they're pretty young? Yeah. I'm so sorry. Please extend our condolences   to your sister if you would, and we'll be happy to help her and give her some suggestions that she could look into. Ultimately, all these things are her decision.  

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Right.   And, yeah, she's definitely looking for advice because she doesn't know where to turn to, where to go, and and, you know, I told her, well, we'll figure something out. We'll, come up with a plan. So, anyways, she's made good progress at getting a list of all her bills and get rid of the stuff she doesn't need to be paying on. And and so we got a good idea where she stands financially. But Uh-huh.   You know, what the the big decision is where do you where do you take that life insurance money? Do you just pay pay off all the debt,   or do you try to hold on to it and declare bankruptcy?  



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I'll hold it. You know, we should do that then change it. The life was the life insurance payment enough to pay off all the debt?  

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It would pay off a chunk of it. Not all of it. No. Okay. Well, there's another option.   Yeah. They could wipe out that HELOC or get rid of the high interest credit cards first.   And, I mean, she's I don't she's gonna try not to pay on his.   Like, the ones that hit her in his name exclusively, she's just gonna send them to desk because just say, you know, whatever. I'm not I'm not responsible. I didn't Right. I didn't I'm not a signer on these accounts. Well, you just stop paying. You  

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put them on notice. The bank will then sell that to credit collectors,   and then they'll start bugging her a little bit probably at some point. And if you do, there's a piece of legislation   called the Fair Debt Collection Act   where the you can stop them from harassing you with one fax. Stops them cold. Okay? All those harassment tactics, talking to your neighbors, and all that kind of stuff, stops them cold, and she could walk away from those, I believe. Mark, does that sound right to you?  

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Yep.  

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Possibly.   You know, it just it it's hard to not been in the the the credit card game and credit repair and and the FDCPA   for a long time.   And,   you can stop them from contacting you,   but that usually leads towards a quicker court   resolution. They'll sell they'll sell the, account off to a debt collector and then the debt collector comes after you. Yeah. And depending upon the size of the debt,   you know, they and the biggie is they run a credit check on you and they see if you own property.   They'll see you have a HELOC loan, so they'll know you have property.   They'll look and see if you're employed,   and and it's just painting a big target on yourself.  

So, what was the gentleman's name that we're conversing with? Travis. Travis. Like, Travis County  

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Travis. Travis. Yeah.  

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Travis, take down my email address, and,   you know, we can we can strategize if you need a little help.   It's it's strawman,   all spelled out, strawman,@mark,mark,all,caps,caps,.com.   Now it doesn't have to be capitalized.   That was just my moniker when I first come on Roger's show. And and it was Mark Allcast because your name in all capital letters does not convey jurisdiction.  

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So Okay. So one more time, strawman@Strawstrawmanatmark,allcaps,.com.  

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Mark, all caps,   dot com. Got it. Got it. Okay. Shoot shoot just shoot me an email so we can at least connect   and, you know, I'm I'm here. I'm a I've been a practicing paralegal for over,   well, almost now twenty five years.   So   anyway, yeah, I'll be happy to point you in the right direction.  

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My wife is basically a paralegal, but she   her and I are not on the same page in all these topics and   Right. You know, she she doesn't wanna   look into it. She doesn't have a time, but that's a whole another story. I didn't wanna get into that anyways, but Yeah. I I understand.  

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And and also, you know, paralegals, if they work for a law office,   you know, they specialize in one area of law, and it takes them a lot of time   to go review air other areas of law. And,   you know, I've had four,   let me put it this way. My my research and writing is directly responsible   for winning four state appeals   in four different states in four different areas of law.   But my specialty has been   consumer protection.   And so I've I've helped people fight foreclosures.   I've helped people fight credit card debt   and so forth. So that's the reason why I know about the community property and and so forth.  

So   but if you wanna run something by me, you got my email address, I'll be happy to at least point you in the right direction.   Well, thank you, Mark. And You're Appreciate everybody's advice. Travis.   I am And and try to do everything administratively.   Work with Marcus. She's she she knows the administrative   side   very well.   So work with her and and and try that approach.   And if if that doesn't work, then you got back up. And I'm I'm here to, you know, try to strategize   with you. It's not a not a problem.  

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Travis. Okay.  

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Yes. Hold on.   Under natural law,   we do things a certain way   and,   administrative   paperwork and, we do things,   you know,   with the power of paper. So   this is where   your you we bring our authority   over, you know, the, you know, the federal system.   So it's important that, you know, understand what it what that means, natural law, common law, and we need to try to use that as our power.   So,   you know, that's just, you know, giving you an idea   of,   you know, we're not using   the US system anymore,   when you're in the private.   So that's what we will be learning. That's what you will be learning if if you do become,   put in your affidavit and your scissor does too. So, you know, we we we can easily explain that   to you and,   your sister and your wife,   and give give her some ideas of what to look for and how to understand it. So here's the big change. Okay. Alright. Right now, your whole life until you do this,  

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you're under a concept called public policy.   Now it took me years to figure out what that meant. Okay?   They never come right out and tell you. It doesn't seem. I couldn't find it. Finally, it showed me that, public policy   is regulations,   rules and regulations.   Here's a good legal term for you, promulgated   by any administrative   agency.   And what they're really doing is they're taking legislation   that's been originated   in the house or agreed upon by the other body,   signed by the president,   etcetera.   And that's considered to be constitutional   at that time.  

But they take it via subject matter and transfer it to whichever   agency   is over that subject, like EPA, environmental protection, or   FDA, food and drug or whatever, all these agencies, I believe   there's I think there's over 600 of them up there now, Travis, and they put all these regulations out and that's public policy.   Little laws, they call them little laws,   promulgated   by unelected   bureaucrats,   altering and interpreting   legislation,   and then applying it to the serf class,   of which when you file this paperwork,   you will no longer be one of.  

So none of that affects you.   And from that point forward   and the only   connections that you have at the federal government with agencies   is two sections of the Internal Revenue Code   that are constitutional.   So that's   technically what's gonna happen when you file this paperwork.   Is that clear? Clear as clear or clear as mud?  

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Okay.  

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Clear as mud. But Okay. Well, you'll see what's going with it. I talked to Ken about this, and and it's about time I get on the onboard and   do this because I I can't you guys are talking in the beginning, and I can't stay on the system and this government and the way they treat their people. Yep. So Well, you can, you have the option to remove yourself from it. It's your totally your choice. None of us will ever tell you to do it.  

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And the reason for that is because if you choose to go down this path, you need to continue to study. Because what I'm gonna tell you right out front is the degree of freedom that you desire and wanna attain   is directly correlated   to the amount of knowledge you have and your ability to defend your position if challenged.   That's your level of freedom. So what we don't want people do is filing paperwork and going, oh, well, that's okay. And they don't learn anything, so nothing changes. We want changes.   And the only thing we can affect change in is ourselves.  

And the only way that's gonna happen is when you get into the information and get a complete understanding of it to the point where you can defend your position if challenged.   And you can go, like Ken has helped you, you can go help and explain it to other people because our strength is not only in knowing the information,   that's our individual power, but then we start getting groups   of people that are all here's what happens, Travis,   I think,   is you were meant to have these wonderful powers from God at birth.   You talk about them in our founding documents. Well, what has happened here   is Esau Edom on the big, big picture.  

Esau Edom has coming back in   and tricked us into giving back the birthright that he sold.   They've got the birthright with this trick.   What we do is take that back. So instead of being governed by man, we come back to this god thing and the way we were supposed to be. And the more you learn, the more information, the more you're gonna get empowered.   And and you just get where I'm not scared of anybody because none of these people have any effect on me.   And it's just a whole different way of looking at life,   And there's the change. When you achieve that, there's the change.  

Okay? And then we get numbers, and we're real powerful.   Right. They're scared of us already.   Okay? But, boy, we get big numbers, and and they're they're they're done, really.   Yes, Larry.  

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Oh, good god.  

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Oh, I'm sorry. Gonna ask if,   if Travis's   sister is interested,   in learning   the information that you teach because Well if she learns it, she can,   stop the withholding of the federal income taxes.   I think he mentioned she's a school teacher.  

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Yeah. I would imagine her head spinning with all these events, and that's probably the last thing she's thinking about. But go ahead, Larry.  

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Yeah. Travis, does, does she know a little bit about what Roger teaches, and is she inclined to   to learn the information? She can get a pay raise   by opting out of the, permanent withholding.  

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Yeah. I mean, I think she will be more inclined to,   learn and listen now that she's kinda got these challenges ahead of her. I've I've been interested in doing this myself. And,   so   it's   hopefully, gonna get two two new people going on on this. So I I think that, yeah, withholding the federal income would be a huge   break for her in a way. Because, I mean, her check just gets eaten up by, you know, insurance and all that stuff. Of course.  

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Well, Travis, you found out that I'm gonna I would recommend   Go ahead.  

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I'll I'd recommend   disputing every one of those debts because   I have found in my experience   that many debt collectors and even banks are not familiar with the state laws.   And so they made these,   debt collectors and banks may not even be familiar   with the, community property   laws.   And so I would dispute every debt because if her name is not on a debt,   even though she's in the state of Arizona   and they deem her responsible   for,   you know, her spouse's   her deceased spouse's debts,   they may not know that. Or if it gets into the hands of a debt collector,   it's, you know, nine times out of 10, they might not even know the laws. And so if you dispute the debt and say, hey. Can you,   you reproduce for me a contract, a certified   contract   that I am responsible for this debt, you know, and just a short one page dispute letter, you know, asking for information, you know, who is this debt with?  

Am I on the is my name on this account? Because I'm not familiar with my name being on this account. Things like that, and then send it to the send it to the debt collector or the bank certified mail   and then see how they respond because many times these debt collectors just go away and you don't hear from them again.  

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Right. That's a great idea.  

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Can I make a comment yet? Yeah. Paul, go ahead, buddy. I didn't know you were trying to get in. Go ahead. I've been trying to get in here for ten minutes.  

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Well, we're Anyways   We didn't hear you.  

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Well okay. Alright.   Monica   Maine.   Write that down.   Monica   Maine,   YouTube channel.   She is a,   wealth   and credit and this, that, and the other thing expert.   And tell your sister to   subscribe to Monica   Maine's   YouTube channel because Spell that last name. M a I n, just like Main Street. Okay. Alright.   What what she will learn   by listening to those videos is number one,   the proper way   to dispute a debt and the things you have to do before you dispute it.   She has to lock   her Social Security number, not with just the big three   credit reporting bureaus. There are five hidden   credit reporting bureaus behind the big three. So she has to block   and lock up her   Social Security number on eight different agencies.  

Then   she does the dispute letters, and I believe they're available   from Monica Maynes' website just from links on the videos.   There's there's sample letters that she can use to dispute the debts.   There are also letters that she can send to the credit reporting bureaus,   requesting   that entries   be removed   off of her credit report, and they have to do it.   So,   Okay. If they fail validation,   then she immediately sends a letter to the credit bureau saying,   I,   I sent this request for validation   to this debtor. They failed to respond. Please take this off my report. If they take it off the report and the creditor puts it back on, then the creditor   and the credit reporting agency   are in violation of federal law.  

So they can't do that.   So,   Monica Maine, she will learn   so much about how to clean up her credit   rating and   It just and just purely by virtue of the fact that she locked   her Social Security number,   she stops all of these agencies that are gonna be digging, trying to find what she owns. They won't be able to pull her credit.  

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Really?  

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They won't be able to see it.  

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Well, that sound Monica Mayne sounds like a hell of a good resource for for a lot of people might wanna check-in with this gal. Am straight. She's brilliant. Getting worse. You know? Hopefully.   We don't know.  

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We don't know. Of course. Yes. May I say something?  

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Yes, ma'am. You may. Who are you? Murr. It's Murr.   Oh, Murr. I'm sorry. Hi, Travis.  

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Hi, Travis. Welcome.   He has a Hey, Murr. How are you? Show on RBN, and this Ken is Ken in Texas, and I'm so glad he's got through to you. And,   we have a numeral two radio ranch dot tatango dot com, which I just popped in the email to you where I'm putting all these things, including Mark's email and   all these different links, Monica Maine and yeah. What a what a resource and,   the matrixdocs.com.   And there is   a Mercus channel, so that address I put in there too. And also the,   nationalstatus.com   that has a lot of information.   And I'm gonna send you,   Sarah's story. This is important for these women to listen to, okay, to see how important it is   to change the status of their children so they're out of their jurisdiction and they can't grab them. Right. You know, you've gotta start from now. You can't go retro, so do it now.  

And, that's what Sarah says in there. If you've if you've wondered about pulling the trigger, you better do it. Yeah. So Where are you posting all this, Murr? It's in a   a a tatango, and I know you  

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Oh my god. Now she's gone.  

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Something happened to all of us or just murder? Nope. Hang on a minute. Free conference call just bailed on me. Hang on just a second. Alright. Thank you for joy.   Wow. Alright. Let's get her going again.   And here we go.  

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Did did drop everybody?  

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9. No. It didn't drop the menu. It just dropped me. The recording has started. O c h a t a n g o. Sorry, guys. My pre conference call just dropped me like a hot rock or a bad habit. Right. So Right. Please please   repeat   please repeat everything that was said over the last sixty seconds.  

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Okay. That would be the the,   Chatango hash number. Or repeat  

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re repeat everything.  

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Yeah. Numeral two,   radioranch.chitango.com   is what was just said, and all the links and, Mirka's,   telegram and   nationalstatus.com   and,   Mark's email   is in there. And I'm going to put Sarah's story in there. It's sixteen and a half minutes, and it's very important these mothers, these women need to listen to this.  

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And so I'm gonna ask for I I heard somebody make the comment the other day that they said CPS,   out of all those agencies up there in DC,   that they're the most despicable of all of them, even over IRS.  

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Oh, yeah. Oh, well, they're they're trafficking the children.  

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I've heard from different ones, you know, as they matured and got out of the system. And the harps that they put them through, they take them to church basements and molest them. Yes. I mean, it's just hideous. Yeah. It's child procurement  

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services.  

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Right. Yes. I think I coined that one, Ben. And, Travis, I've never heard of anyone   being able to get their child out of their clutches once they're in there. This is the sole incident I've ever heard that were they were able to accomplish that, and it was all because of the affidavit.   So I'll let you listen to that. But Murr's right. Pass it on to gals because,   especially once with children, they'll it's very safe to protect everybody, not just you.   They don't understand that children are born into servitude too under them. Okay. Hold on. Myrka?  

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Yes.   Travis, I wanted to let you know that,   as soon as I found out about national status   and learned about it, as soon as I could, I put my affidavit in to protect my child   and myself.   And, I took her out of the public school.   I and it's not hard to do.   I put it on an affidavit. I send it out to the CPS   and the school,   the depart the education   department, both locally   and,   in DC.   And that was,   you know, three or four years ago,   '22, I think it was, when I sent it. Took her out. I had no idea what I was doing, you know, taking her out and doing my own education, private education with her. And it is completely   different, and it feels good,   to protect your child. So it's important.  



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And also have, for ladies, when if you do that and submit the affidavit,   get them passport cards   and register it in the passport system.   For you the like your sister, you said the youngest one was eight.   So if they did that and got a passport for it, they'd have that valid until they were 18   as ID.  

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Okay.   It doesn't expire in, like, five years? Like No. I normal passports for children 16.  

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Well, that might be. I don't I don't know. I thought they were all 10. I'm not sure on on children. I don't have any. So, but that may be is that right? Children.   It's five years since that ten?   Yes. Five years. Well, it only thirty bucks a piece. So the age of 16.   $30   a piece. So that's pretty cheap insurance   to have your status secured to that   piece of what's considered to be, I believe, the highest form of ID issued by the federal government.  

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Right.  

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Yep. Hey, Roger.   Yes. There's Larry again.  

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Yeah. Just wanna suggest to Travis,   again, I would dispute every debt that comes across   your sister's desk,   and, don't ever volunteer information. Like, if a debt collector calls you,   you you play dumb. You act like an investigator. Like, why are you calling me? Who are you? What is your name? What is your address?   What is your business name? You ask a a bunch of questions   to try to gather information   because you're treating these people like they're a stranger because what what their goal is is to get you into an oral contract.   Because if they call you and you admit to the debt, you're now in an oral contract, which which reinforces   the written contract   if indeed they have a written contract.  

And, so the first time they call you, the FDCPA   allows a debt collector   one time to call you. Now the the the actual creditor   would believe it or not, you actually sign an agreement when you get the loan   or the credit card,   credit. You actually on the application,   you're waiving,   you know, you're waiving rights,   and that is they're allowed to call you,   you know, continuously   if they want. But once that debt gets passed on to a a third party debt collector,   they're only allowed one phone call. And so when they do call you, I would ask a slew of questions.   And then when you get done getting some answers, like, who are you? What's this about? Etcetera, what is your   name, then you tell them, don't ever call this phone number again. Everything I want you to You don't tell them, Larry. Yeah. You fax them a letter,  

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and they will cease immediately   all that crap.  

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Yeah. You could do that, but you could also   because they record   their conversations.   That's why you can accidentally get into an oral contract with them if you admit to the debt and say, yeah. That's my debt. You know, that's my husband's debt, and, yeah, I'm supposed to be paying on it and all this. You don't ever say any any of those things because they're more than likely recording the phone call.   So you tell them not to call you again. And then plus, just like Roger said,   you can after that phone call, that initial one time phone call, you can write them because you're gonna get their address   and their supervisor, whoever's the, the the head of that organization,   and you're gonna address a certified letter to them saying saying, do not call me again on such and such date. You know, you your your agent called me inquiring about a debt. Do not call me again.  

This will be a violation of the FDCPA.   Now if they call you again, you could actually get a consumer protection attorney and get a thousand dollars for that second phone call because they were put on notice not to   not to, contact you again via phone. Now they can continue to, to, you know, send you correspondence in the mail demanding payment for a debt, but that's what you want. You want everything   in writing.   So That's all.   I think that's about it. Just don't volunteer information.  

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Tom Dee had a program that they were talking about there at a convention in Vegas, Travis, where that you know, these people that give you unsolicited phone calls   against state law and stuff. Well, there there's a whole group of people that are tracking those things and going back and getting rewards of $10.05,   $10,000   every incident.   Sounds weird to me, but that was happening. He talked about it here on the show one day.   So,   anyway, I'm glad you called in. And and,   does anybody else have any suggestions for Travis or want anything you wanna say to him?   If you do, mute, unmute, and   speak your peace.  



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Hey, Roger.  

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There's Dave. I should have known that he would be coming forward.  

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I just wanted to say hi to Travis. I I heard your voice.   I was on another call. And when I switched back, you were talking, and I'm like and then I heard somebody call you Travis, and I'm like, Travis?   Is that the guy from RBN?   I used to listen to you on truth frequency radio.   You'd come up early in the morning,   and I I I'm legally blind, so everything I do is by telephone. I listen call and listen lines,   and,   you just they just disappeared.   You could still call that number and it'll connect, but it's dead air. Right? And,   you disappear. And then one night, you know, I get on this Friday night call I've been on for since twenty fifteen, and it goes late. And   I'd started tuning into RBN,   and I heard you on there, you know? And now now I'm hearing you with your,   with your,   your,   preparedness tablet.  

That is an awesome   I I don't have it yet. I wanna get it,   saving my pennies. But,   you I I'm very impressed   by you, and you made that show on Truth Frequency Radio really work. Them guys were   some yahoos.   Travis.  

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Travis, are you a you're a broadcast host?  

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Yeah. I have a show on RBN,   late Friday nights. And and, Roger, I'd like to invite you on if you're ever up late. It's a 10PM central,   two hour show.   It's called the final hour or just final hour on RBM. I'd let you know what happens to me? And I'm on every every Friday night.  

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What happens to me when I do shows like that, I'm in the central time zone,   is that my mind is racing so much from being on the program that I have a hard time sleeping.   So that that's my problem with doing those real night late night shows, but maybe we can figure something out prerecorded or whatever. Okay? Yeah.  

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I didn't know you were the host. I've never you and I both,  

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you and I both are are,   RBN and and and Chris ego are both our ex wives.  

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I  

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don't know. That little something in terms of what he did to me, he's just a little prick. He's about like,   a Zelensky,   really,   The way he treated me.   And it's okay. It worked out. But, yeah, I would,   I was kinda happy to be away from him, but that's okay.   We got over here on our own.  

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I I think Ken told me about that. I Yeah. Forgot about that. And, Yeah. Well, I No. My show's pretty pretty laid back and Yeah. I'm pretty easygoing. Well, maybe we can do it. I hear your voice. You should've got a good broadcast voice. So Well, let me ask I just Let me ask Travis another question, Roger.  

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Alright. So, Travis, are you familiar are you familiar with Mark Kornke?  

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I think I've heard the name. I'm trying to remember what he's talking about.  

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His his station is libertytreeradio.4mg.com   or libertytreeradio.0rg.   He's the militia guy,   started the militia movement. He worked with John,   Stadtmiller at RBN there for for   years.   Mark,   they they blew up Oklahoma   City   to blame it on Mark Kornke and the militia movement.   And they tried to nail him for that,   the feds.  

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Yeah.  

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And, I just wanna let you know, Mark Mark is still on the radio. He's been on the radio for thirty four years,   and he's on that Monday through Friday from 5PM   eastern   to seven, then takes an hour break for,   for dinner,   comes back from eight to nine eastern.   He was on, with,   Richard Carey's show last last week one day.   I kinda   helped Richard get him on that call to interview him for the first hour. And then the second hour,   Richard simulcasted and just tuned in, you know, for RBN to listen.   And, I I announced your   website and your preparedness tablet on Mark's show.  

You know, he he does a show. It's mostly for militia people,   you know, all over the country. And Mark's got about,   I don't know, 10 or 12,   different camps throughout Michigan where people come and train   to do militia learn how to be a militiamen,   all up and down Michigan. And the entrance fee is two number 10 cans of food per person in the in the, you know, auto that you arrive in. And he feeds you, and, it it's really a great opportunity for people.   They come from all over the country, you know, to go train with Mark.   And,   he, he's pretty incredible guy, but I ever I I I put your tablet out there on his show.  

So I don't know if it got any traction. You know, I don't know how many people are listening at any time, but at 08:00 hour, he's on,   the planet on   a,   shortwave  

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for an hour.  

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And, he's all they play him all over the world. So you may get some traction out of that. I hope you do.   Thank you. I wanna get one of them for my grandson to start studying. He's 12.   And,   I'm really impressed by your work, and, I wish I could tune in to your your show more often. But,   thanks for coming here and nice meeting you. Thank you, sir. Appreciate that. Travis, I wanna ask by you.  

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Those links will be in the tatango also.  

[01:27:50] Unknown:

Okay. Travis, where about, North Of Fairbanks, are you? Are you out in the wilderness or what? You go homestead some land?  

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I'm in Dead Horse.   Dead Horse? No. No. I work in Dead Horse. I just come up here for work, and I go home.  

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Okay. Three weeks at a time,  

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usually. Oil business?  

[01:28:07] Unknown:

Yeah.   Yeah. Kind of the oil business. I work at a power plant now. Okay.  

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It's a beautiful state.   Stunning state. Wonderful people. Used to be anyway. I'm not sure now how much the oil has corrupted them. But, I lived in Anchorage there. Dad was stationed at Elmendorf in the sixties. I was there during the Good Friday earthquake.   We spent most of our time,   in the on the Kenai Peninsula fishing and stuff. I often talk about   I think Homer, Alaska is one of the most stunning cities, towns in the world.   Have you been down to Homer yet?  

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I have. Yeah. Yeah. My, previous job, I got a lot   of lot of, travel time around the state, and Homer is a pretty amazing little city. It's a really cool man, from that hill looking over that scene is just stunning.   Especially in Alaska. Gorgeous. I mean, Alaska's got a lot of lot of good things going. Yep. It sure does.  

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So, anyway, well, I was just curious about that. And,   how are you, like, halfway between Fairbanks and the North Slope? Or or or how what proximity? No. I'm on the North Slope. Oh, you're really? I'm on the North Slope. Okay. Dead Deadhorse is  

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Deadhorse is pretty much the end of the road, end of the adult highway.   Okay. It's the farthest north you can drive. So right now, it's tourist season. We got   guys driving their motorcycles and bikes and cars up here. Uh-huh. I mean, it's not huge tourist season. But,  

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And the and the mosquitoes check your blood type before they bite you. Right?  

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I   guess they do.  

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Luckily, they haven't come out yet. Yeah. They're surprised they don't carry they don't carry away. They're so damn big.   And my favorite was Oh, there's so many of them. How about the no see ums? Do you have any of them?   Those are those are horrible. Then we don't have those to appear, but they're I've heard They're horrible. Folks, let me tell you in the audience. There are these little things, they call them no see ums because they're so small. And when they bite you, well, it's painful,   aye, but it draws a blood blister.   So it can just they're horrible to be around. Anyway, Travis, well, cool, man. I have a special place in my heart for Alaska. It's a unique part of this world, and I loved my time up here.  



[01:30:22] Unknown:

Well, I appreciate all your guys' advice and and, definitely be getting a hold of you and listening in more. And Okay. I'm sure I'll have questions as I dig deeper into this. So Alright.  

[01:30:32] Unknown:

Well, we welcome you. Advice and support. Yep. And, this is a place to get your questions addressed, so we do the best we can. Sometimes we can't   answer them occasionally, not often. And, you've got a basically a brain trust here. So, that's real good. We're glad to have you along for the ride. We've got a whole set of archives.   If you're out busy working during the day and you wanna listen at night, Paul puts all that together, the links on the website there. And,   so, anyway, welcome aboard, Travis, and, nice to meet you.  

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Nice meeting you. Yeah. I've taken on your website,  

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last night, and it's pretty extensive. I like it. I I I'm sure there's a new student's extension there, hold on. You might hold on.  

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Hold on. Hold on. Preparedness tablet.  

[01:31:17] Unknown:

Okay. Oh, okay. Real quick. I,  

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go ahead. Sorry, Roger. I was just gonna say, you know, I want you to tell us about that asset there.   It the the new student section   has some more some of the more   high high profile things,   but the one that you might, when you get a chance,   put two hours into   is doctor Jean Schroeder's War and Emergency   Powers Act,   which shows you the proof of everything that we build on.   And,   that's   Paul remastered the audio, got a little bit better.   And, that was from the 1994   era.   And, man, those guys had it the whole time. It was back when I first got into this in '92.   And that is something all of our people if you're new, you should watch War Emergency Powers Act by doctor Schroeder. And it wasn't just him. It was a team of about nine or 10   different legal researchers. He's just the front man. So that's real important, Travis, I think, for new folks.  

Now there was a covey of people I thought   I heard lady Linda in there. Did I? Was you were you on? Yeah. We haven't spoken with you yet today.   Okay. Well, come forward, lady Linda, and speak with Travis, please.  

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Thank   you. Welcome, Travis. I would encourage you to,   get a hold of title 15,   the fair debt credit that, the folks have talked about. And thank you, Paul, for Monica Maine and her side. But one thing I can tell you that's really easy peasy,   All   these debts that your wife and your brother-in-law   had accumulated,   if, the credit card debt in particular,   if she stops paying it, then they're going to sell that debt to these third party   organizations.   Now your wife and your brother-in-law never had a contract   with   your sister I said wife. Yes. Sister and your brother-in-law. Never had a contract with them.  

So what Larry has given you is sound advice. You do not want to have an oral contract with these people, and it's really great to get everything in writing. But once you do, you respond to them and say, show me the contract I have with you.   You know? Simple simple   question.   If there's no contract,   I don't owe any money to you. I don't owe any debt, etcetera.   And then if they continue to put it on your credit card report,   you call the credit card report people, and you say,   take this off of my,   credit report.   Otherwise, I'm going to have to take action.  

Now if they don't take it out, trust me,   y'all gonna get a thousand dollars for every,   violation   that they've made because they'd rather settle outside of court because they know they're playing these shenanigans,   and I know people personally   that all they do is make a living by getting their thousand dollars from the credit card agency   because they put this,   false debt on their credit card report, and that   is unlawful.   And that's why your research would be title 15 to get that security in your head, in your bone marrow so that you can be empowered   and know that what you're doing   is correct  

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in I use. Okay. Linda, I wanted to say I heard somebody talk in a clever way to deal with these debt collectors if you don't go the fax them a a letter route.   Is,   you get them on the phone. Right? And you just go, oh, wait a minute. I've got something boiling over the kitchen. And you take the phone and you just put it down and just walk away.   And don't come back and answer it, and they'll eventually hang up.   So there's some clever ways to deal with those people.  

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Well, I'm   suggesting is it will bring revenue into the family. Yeah. Right. The way I'm suggesting.  

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Right.  

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So right now is now I would not put all that insurance money and pay off x, y, and z at this time.   I would have your wife be empowered   to,   get rid of this debt   and,   you know,   protect whatever assets she has. And Yes. When you're doing estate planning, you need to learn about trust because   that is a critical piece of the equation. But this is a fire hose's information, so I'm just giving you a practical   Yeah.  

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Direction right now. I was you're gonna have to go much more. He's gonna have to go back and listen to the show two or three times. Thank you, Linda.   Would you? I'm taking notes. I've got, like, three or four lines of notes here. But, Well, here's the beautiful part, Travis, of our little setup now, thanks to Paul,   is he's got this archive thing connected to   AI.   And you could go and AI will give you a whole printout or a read of the whole show. So you don't have to take notes. It'll all be in there, and it is absolutely incredibly accurate. I'm he's read a couple of them on the air here, and it's just amazing how accurate they are.   So there's another resource for you. K?  

Okay. A minute ago, there was a covey, a literal covey of people that were wanting to say something. I recognized   Larry,   and he I I I don't know the two or three. So, Larry, what were you what was your comment? Then we'll go to others.  

[01:37:00] Unknown:

Alright. So there's there's two acts that Travis, I would suggest he studies.   There's the FDCPA,   which is Fair Debt Collection Practices Act, and there's the FCRA,   which lady Linda brought up, which stands for the Fair Credit Reporting Act.   That act has to do with the credit reporting bureaus,   and the, the first one by name has to do with how you deal with alleged debts that you owe, you know, original creditors or,   third party debt collectors.   And, one thing I wanted to say was   if you start to go down this road where you're gonna challenge every debt and, you know, you're gonna start getting phone calls,   just like my mentor taught me, take meticulous   records. In other words,   if a debt collector calls you, get get you a notebook that's dedicated   to, you know, all all the correspondence   and phone calls that you're gonna get   and and, you know, you need to record everything, like, make a file or jot notes down, like, who called you, what business, what time of day because   if you tell that debt collector not to call you ever again that everything needs to be in writing, you know, all future correspondence,   and then a week later, that same debt collector calls you. Now you got a thousand dollars in your pocket. So you can go to the attorney and the attorney is gonna say, well, do you have any evidence that shows that they called you a second time after you told them not to call you? And you could say, yeah. I took notes. And, and then plus they said the the call was recorded, and I spoke to this person. And so these agents, all all of their workload is documented. So even if the phone call wasn't recorded,   the attorney could go in there and find that the name of that agent   and find out, you know, their schedule and, oh, yeah. They did call you a second time, and then they could file a lawsuit against that third party debt collector, and then you'll get a thousand dollars. And the unique thing about an FDCPA   claim   is they have to pay the attorney's fees so that you get that thousand dollars. It's not like the the attorney's getting a part of that. They also have to pay the attorney's fees and you get a thousand dollars in your pocket. So the so the point is just take very meticulous   notes   of of every correspondence   whether whether orally or written.  



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Well, don't forget, she's a school teacher. If I remember right, I got into some debt, oh, back, when I was about to sell my house, and I think they only call you during the daytime. I don't believe they call at night. They might now. I don't know.   But I took care of the whole problem with one fax   to the to the people that were calling, and everything ceased.   I didn't have to go through certified mail and pay the extra. Just got a fax line, faxed them a short letter. I'm invoking this section of the Fair Debt Collection Act, and they'll cease. Because if not, you got them by the short hairs.   So, Travis, I've I kinda sitting here thinking,   man, we're just really overwhelming this guy.  

Do you do you feel overwhelmed,   kinda?  

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Well, it's a lot to take in and and there's a lot of different roads you can take and how to do this. So, I mean, you know, I obviously, I'd wanna, you know, preserve   what   little bit of money she's got coming in and hold on to it. Except my my most important thing is keeping her and her kids in the house that, you know, their dad helped, you know, provide for and all that. And I just don't want anymore   trauma with her daughters. So   I I'm just trying to figure out a bet the best strategy, you know, a, to get her on board and get her thinking about this stuff. I mean, I've talked to her about these kinds of things and topics and, you know, it's all fraud and, you know, it's choose her choose her responsible. Oh, yeah. But the point is, like, you know, like, you know, I think now she's probably gonna be forced by necessity to   really pay attention  

[01:40:55] Unknown:

and try to pick this up. So I'm hoping she's Oh. Jumps on board. And, you know, I can't twist her arm. No. Can I give you a suggestion? No. You can't force this on people because they're never gonna do what's required   to to become free. And so they think, well, this doesn't work and nothing changes. Or it does work incredibly if the people,   once again learn. You gotta   in the South, we say it's easier to pull a rope than to push a rope. Okay? Now   you said, Travis, you're up there for three weeks. When you're not up there, where are where are you hanging out?  

[01:41:29] Unknown:

I I live in Arizona also. Okay. You also. I live about two hours away from her. Alright.   So live in Northern Arizona.  

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Uh-huh. Alright.   I see. Yes. There's a couple other people. I think Robbie. I believe this is Robbie. I think she has something to say. Yes, ma'am.  

[01:41:48] Unknown:

Yes, sir.   If Mark is still there,   and or Paul,   I'd like,   to see   somebody told me a long time ago, so I'm just checking if this is true.   If you have,   debt collectors,   if you you can pay 5 or $10 a month and there's nothing they can do about it, can can somebody,   give me a response to that?  

[01:42:15] Unknown:

I've never heard anything like that.  

[01:42:19] Unknown:

Because they say as long as you're paying something, there's not not really anything legally they can do. Can Mark or Paul respond to that, please?  

[01:42:27] Unknown:

Well, this is   Mark.   I've seen where this has worked to a degree, like, on hospital bills,   but on credit card debt, your mileage may vary.   I've seen people get sued even though they were making,   dollars a month payments.   And you could argue that they accepted your contract   accepting your $5 a month payments.   So   and one of those was on a mortgage,   and the person   paid about half of what their mortgage, monthly mortgage was.   And about six months later, they went after them. The mortgage company foreclosed on the property.   So   it really depends on the type of debt and,   your mileage may vary. I don't have a   a set. Yes. That'll always work. Right.  

It might, and I do agree with trying to preserve the wealth,   or the the,   insurance money.   And,   and it's not too late to put the home in it to a trust, like, immediately,   and and at least try to protect it if they ever try to come after her.   So Yeah. There's some   there's some things we can do. I'll be happy to talk to you about that. It's not a problem.  

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Okay.  

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How many is the essence? Let's   Right. Hang on. Stop.  

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Just hold on just a second. We weren't done with Robbie.   So what we does that help?  

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Yeah.  

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Yes. Thank you. I I have a funny little story. I did have   a $12,000,   credit card debt. At one point, I had a long term illness.   And,   I was paying the $5 a month, and there was they they didn't do it, 5 or 10, whatever I had. And they didn't do anything. But the funniest thing happened   when my mother died.   Don't ask me how this happened. I just say it's a god thing.   For some reason, when my mother died,   they thought I died,   And they just and they stopped, and they sent me a letter and said they're not taking my payments anymore. They sent me my my last,   money order for $5. So that's just a funny little story.  



[01:44:44] Unknown:

Yeah.   Well okay.   Interesting. Wow.  

[01:44:49] Unknown:

Alright. Who who else, wants got something for me, Mark, Travis, Paul,   Murr?   We're pretty quiet out there.   Travis often say when this point is like dropping a rock down a well, and you're listening for it to hit bottom, and it never hits bottom. Yeah. Who who was saying something there? It's  

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Dave.   It it's Dave.  

[01:45:16] Unknown:

Hang on a second, Dave. I just wanted   Dave, I have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have a second. Mur has, preempted here. Man. Go ahead. She's a female. I just wanna just yeah. Get in here. Then I posted in the chat,  

[01:45:36] Unknown:

well, both of them. RBN has a really good coverage of what Travis offers with this tablet,   And so it's a very good coverage of it. So rather than him going over it, unless he wants to,   there's all that information.  

[01:45:50] Unknown:

Okay. Well, you can just hit the high points for the audience. But first, we'll get back to Dave. From the horse's mouth. I was gonna say if I don't get back to if I don't get back to Dave, he'll be offended, Maher. So, yes, Dave. You're right. And Travis They have a they have a good   audio there too with Travis detailing it on our end that I use. Alright. Well, Travis, you want to call the open up the audio, or you wanna tell us yourself?  

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I'll just tell you real quick just to make it short and sweet. We sell a survival   tablet or a prepared tablet.   It's just full of information about homesteading, animal husbandry,   you know, building shelters, like military survival guides,   foraging edible plants. I mean, you name it. First aid is a huge one. Water purification.   So it's just a good idea to have a digital   library   that has all this information preloaded. It works just like a regular tablet. You can connect it to your Wi Fi, you know, use it, download stuff yourself.   It it comes with the sol, solar charger in a case,   and you could buy a little upgradable thumb drive that you could put your family documents and pictures on, and it's got more stuff on it. So you can increase the memory and not take up the whole   storage of the tablet. And, it just it was just something I wanted for a long time, and we finally made it. And I was like, man, these these things would probably be   valuable for people to have. So  

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And the solar charger for sale. Yeah. The solar charger is a big deal.  

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Would be. I can understand that. Because and they're small enough and could be put in a Faraday cage type situation pretty easily.  

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Yep.  

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Yep. You could put it in a Faraday bag. We sell those. You could wrap your tablet up, stick it in the case, stick it in with the, solar charger. It all fits in one case.   Throw your thumb drive in there, and,   it's just a portable library that's, you know, 40,000 pages of,   information that you can carry with you anywhere you wanna go. How proud of that are you?   What? Pretty I'm pretty proud of it because I've I've been wanting one for my myself for a long time. Just No. I mean, yeah. You know? I wanna know what you charge. Made it. You know what I mean?  

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What do you charge for?  

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The prices might go up slightly because all the stuff is going up. But right now,   just for the tablet, the solar charger, and the case,   it's $250.   That's pretty good. They're really reasonably priced. I'm trying to get it in people's hands.   And, you know, you could buy ham radios with that. We we preprogram ham radios for your area. Like, if you live in Really? New Mexico or wherever,   we preprogram a ham radio, picking up all the repeaters, all the emergency services   in your area, and we we we program it for you and send you your radios programmed That's either with a tablet or or separately, depends on how you buy it. We got little package bundle deals.  

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I can see why these people are so enthusiastic   about it. Makes a lot of sense. Yeah. And and if they wanna find out brought him on  

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Yeah. Pardon me. I was just gonna say Mitchell Henderson brought him on rents too, so they got that audience covered.  

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Okay. Yeah. It was   pretty pretty popular for a couple days.  

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Well, you're lucky. Rents. So I got on two rents for two hours. We never didn't get one person out of it that I know of.   So and that would that one Oh, wow. Baffles. It baffles me totally.   K? And as we were talking yesterday,   the worst interview I thought I'd ever done produced the most results by far overwhelming.   So you'd never know in this tough freedom game here. You never know who's gonna respond to the message. And here, you've got to deal with people that want it. You can't go out and chase people and beat them up with it. They've got to want it. It's gotta be voluntary as everything else in life, and they're having you're gonna have to be willing to sacrifice big things and reorient their thinking and learn all that stuff. What I was gonna say a minute ago for your sister, because I'm sure she's just overwhelmed anyway, k,   at this point. But if you wanna introduce this to her, Travis,   and maybe in that new student section is there's a   a video I did with,   oh, who's a badass Uncle Sam? You know who he is?  

No. I don't know if I've heard of badass Uncle Sam. That's awesome. Oh, he's a he's a guy down in New Orleans, older guy, and he dresses up in Uncle Sam uniforms   and takes a little card out in the French Quarter right by the market where there's a lot of traffic and just engages people in conversation.   And he was,   exposed to the message.   Asked me to do an interview. And it's I think it's one of the best interviews that I've done because I altered   the way the information   is presented   and and did a pretty good job on this one. And here's the deal. You're enslaved in your mind.   Your mind is where they get altered to get you to volunteer into the condition.  

So   instead of presenting what they've done and you don't understand all those concepts,   I went and and did it where all the concepts of how you're enslaved in your mind are done. And it's very simple, and it's very easy to remedy. And every time, it's just this double meaning of words. And in your subconscious,   they've embedded those opposite definitions, always 180 degrees.   So when you learn the trick and understand what they're doing, all you have to do is go in and implant, identify the word, and then you go in and implant the correct definition in your subconscious.   And now your subconscious and your conscious are working together   in tandem. And as doctor Bruce Lipton said on Joyce Riley years ago, when that happens, it's empowering.  

That along with learning the information,   what you're doing is you're syncing both parts of your brain.   This goes back, if you're spiritual to James one eight in the New Testament,   and it says a double minded man is uncertain in all of his ways. And that's what they've done. They've made us double minded with this trick of of attaching opposite definitions.   And now after you learn that   and then you're presented with what they've done and how they've done it, it's not quite as overwhelming, I think.   So it's called God's trump card. God's trump card.   So that may be one of the first things you might wanna present her with.  

Absolutely. Okay. That's a good start. Okay. Thank you, Travis. That's a great start. Who else has got stuff for Travis here unless he's gotta go work?   May I, Lady Linda Louise? Yes. Linda wants to come back for a second round. Yes, ma'am. Mhmm. Of course.  

[01:52:48] Unknown:

Travis, I would love to buy that tablet.   How do I contact you to make it happen?  

[01:52:55] Unknown:

I'm I'm sorry. I forgot the most important part. Our our website is com wwwcomcoms.link,   c0mc0ms.link.   So it's comcoms.link.  

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Link?  

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And it   I appreciate you. Thank you. I'll give you another Just get a hold of us there, and and we'll reach out to you. It might be me or Jeff giving you a call, and we'll we'll help you out. Okay, Travis. So it's c0mc0ms.link,  

[01:53:25] Unknown:

link?   Yes, sir. Okay. There you go. See, we have to go back because the I a I will spell all that out for anybody looking at this episode.   So we have to go back and be conscious of talking carefully and making sure those things are if they're questionable, spelled out or whatever the case may be to make it as easily identifiable   because all those artificial intelligence   shit. They ain't so smart. You know? They didn't figure out what we did.  

[01:53:57] Unknown:

Right. No.  

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So so who else has got some Lord of mercy? We're towards the end of the program here. If you got a piece if you got a piece, you better wanna say it now if you wanna get it out over the air.  

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Hello?  

[01:54:11] Unknown:

Hello? Can you hear me? Is that Gary? Is that Gary? Hey, Roger. I gotta go. This is Mark. Thank you very much. We'll talk to you soon, buddy. Take care of you very carefully. Great day.  

[01:54:20] Unknown:

You too. Alright. Cool. Bye bye. I think that's Gary, is it?  

[01:54:25] Unknown:

Gregory.  

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Gregory. Hey, man.  

[01:54:30] Unknown:

Yeah.   Long listen. Hey, Travis.   Welcome to the ranch.  

[01:54:37] Unknown:

Thanks.  

[01:54:38] Unknown:

How you doing, Gregory? I heard one of those tablets from you a while back.  

[01:54:43] Unknown:

You should be getting it in a couple days. Yours just went out.  

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Yeah. Okay. Sweet.   I remember back in the day, back when I was going to my useless eater meeting   meetings,   we,   started to   discharge our debt   by just asking the bank to,   provide   the actual   money they lent us,   which, of course, we know there is no money anymore, but   then they would we would want them to send it to a debt collector because we could file suit against those guys and   reap some more slave shekels from that. Yeah. I remember,   purposely,   getting a credit card jacked up to $15   and   did this simple   little   letter   correspondence,   and it stopped them right dead in their tracks.  

It did hurt my credit,   but I didn't care about that anyways. And,   Yeah. I even had another, card come in for,   like, $1,500   and maxed out one out and did the same thing.   It's and this was, like, fifteen, twenty years ago, so I'm I'm not   up on, particular. But   like you say, there are, a lot of different ways to handle these   satanic creatures   over.  

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Thank you, Gregory.   Thank you so much. Who else has got something for Travis or anybody,   for all of us? Whatever.   Got a little bit of time going?   Nobody?   Well, Travis, listen. I'm really glad you stopped by and spent some time with us today from my end and the rest of the family because that's kinda what we are here, really. And, once you get into this and it really starts permeating   with it, you   you'll find it hard to be around other people in a sense that if you try and talk about this, you're   well, you'll get a lot of different varied reactions. You never know. K?   It that's been the biggest shock to me over all these years   is that this I would think everybody there'd be a line at the door to do it. And, boy, that is not the case.  

K?   What I found is how effectively   they have Pavlovianly   altered and affected us to be scared of them   and impute power to them that they don't have. They tricked us out of. That's the whole deal.   They tricked you   through that conditioning of your mind on keywords   to answer those two questions, yes, you've been asked all your life.   Are you a citizen of The United States or you're a resident, and then you sign something.   And the whole thing is geared to get that to happen because now they've got your voluntary   agreement.  

And that to them means the key to the city,   which they call   plausible   deniability.  

[01:57:56] Unknown:

Right.   So, anyway, welcome, man. And I'm just Thanks, guys. I really appreciate everybody's advice and support.  

[01:58:04] Unknown:

Uh-huh.   I'm I'm jealous that you're up there in Alaska a little bit, really. I mean, I'm in beautiful Ecuador, and I love it here. But, boy, Alaska's a special place.  

[01:58:15] Unknown:

You're not here, Brent.  

[01:58:18] Unknown:

You what, Murr?  

[01:58:20] Unknown:

Hey, Travis.  

[01:58:21] Unknown:

Oh, no. It's Gregory. Okay.  

[01:58:23] Unknown:

Okay. I was just curious,  

[01:58:25] Unknown:

Travis. Do you know if your brother-in-law,   took the you know what?  

[01:58:33] Unknown:

You know yeah. I mean,   I'll be honest with you. I was, working down there with when I was,   COVID lockdowns, and I told them I was like, look. They're gonna have a vax, and you're gonna wanna stay away from it.   And, you know, I   I stressed it. I tried to talk sense to anybody that would listen,   but I think only one person in my family listened was my one of my youngest sister.   And I think he had one or two. And yes, I do.   I do think there was there was some comp there was some other things going on. So but I do suspect that   the vax played a heavy part of it.  

So I'm I'm just being perfectly honest. Man, that's just my suspicion.  

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Uh-huh.   Doesn't that just really come make the issue even more complex? Lord have mercy.   Right. Travis, tell you this is honestly, I'm pissed off. Well, you should be. You got every reason to be, so do a whole bunch of other people, probably millions of them. Actually, will you please Right.   What's your sister's name?  

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Jessa.  

[01:59:36] Unknown:

Would you please extend to Jessa our deepest sympathies from this big family, extended family here?   And,  

[01:59:45] Unknown:

Yes, sir.  

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Tell her that, we all send love and sympathy. And   if she can make it, if there's anything we can do, we'll be happy to help. Okay?   Alright. Thank you so much, Roger. I really appreciate it. Take care, buddy. Alright, man. It's very nice to meet you too and have a extended conversation with you. Well, there you go. Two days in a row yesterday, we had Michael and the tax issue.   And today, we got Travis and   a wow amount of information   that would overwhelm me if I was in that situation, I think. But regardless, they got good counsel,   and, I'm sure that the family will welcome them if, they choose to join.  



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Otherwise, Nat, we'll see you tomorrow. Hang out after  

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when you're hanging out. You don't have to run away. This is just the kind of official surface stuff, and we cut broadcasting,   but it's still recording   on Paul's channel.   And I help people on here till,   for hours, Travis. Hours. In the middle of the night, it used to be.  

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Nice.  

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Yeah. Wow. Yeah. It's a it's a really interesting thing that's grown. I mean, I I didn't know when I started. I thought the world would come to our door, you know, with a better mouse trap. Well, well, hell, that wasn't the case, you know? And so now it's been out to put the message out, simplify it, simplify it, simplify it. How can I make it easier to understand   so that we can spread it faster and people can uptake it quicker? And now we got something to work with. So that's our goal. Thanks for hanging around, and I hope you, found it two hours of well spent. See you tomorrow.  

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Absolutely.  

[02:01:25] Unknown:

There you go. So if you wanna hang your wallet, you know, Yeah. Well, there's Tom d right there, isn't it?  

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Yeah. Who is I've been hanging around, listening,   on and off. I've been doing stuff, but,   early in the show, at the beginning, you were talking about,   the mainstream media.   And somebody sent me a little,   picture   yesterday,   and it said, congratulations   to CNN. They have more employees than viewers.  

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Yeah. It's just wonderful to see him. Yeah. He boy, the Trump was bashing CNN yesterday. Did you hear the president drop the f bomb, Tom?  

[02:02:08] Unknown:

Yep. Yeah. So I heard it. Yeah. That that gets their attention.  

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I never I some of my these things are happening I never thought I'd see   or hear.  

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Yeah. I'm I'm sure they, I'm sure they say it a lot off, camera, but,   and then you were talking about,   Jewish people in the music industry.   I worked for this guy back in the nineties,   and he was Jewish   and   he had the FBI   watching him when he was   young because I think, you know, I mean, we never admitted it. I I don't know whether he was really bootleg and   records and stuff or not,   but   him and I, we were at the beginning for the first couple of years I worked for him, we were pretty close and we did a lot of work and stuff. But then   he wanted to   increase   my working hours without a pay increase. And I said, well, I said, why   don't we just raise prices a little bit   and keep the same hours?  

And he said, well, he says, if you're so smart, then I'd be working for you. I said, well, you might be if you hadn't had the mob helping your bootleg records, and that was the end of that relationship.   It went downhill from there.  

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I was in Philadelphia, I bet you. So Is that around Philadelphia?  

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Yes.  

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It Yeah. Yep. Scorpio music. Well, there's a lot of sleazebags in the music business, folks. Remember remember   Creedence Clearwater Revival, and they're pumping out head after head after head after head, and then everything just   Yeah. Sure. And then everything just ceased. Right?   Yep. You know? Well, you know what happened? Yep.   He has signed a contract with a crooked Jew bastard that owned all this production. He was getting all the royalties off that. And then on top of that, he went through a divorce and living in California. So he just said, well, yeah. I ain't gonna do nothing. So that's why you never heard from him for fifteen, twenty years. These managers, boy, they really screwed their people over. My friend of mine was the drummer for Hall and Oates.  

[02:04:19] Unknown:

Hall and Oates? We used to call them manager.  

[02:04:22] Unknown:

We used to call them Hall and Oates. Go ahead.  

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It was a guy named Steve Shive. He was, he was a good drummer. He started his own band with his daughter.   His daughter,   became a singer, and they were doing this. In fact, I saw him once at the   at the casino,   Harris Casino   in Southern   Southern,   South Philly. So but,   yeah, she was pretty good. And he was a big drummer, but he's you know, he told me about them, you know, just take stealing all their money and everything, and he just  

[02:04:55] Unknown:

he just gave up and quit. Oh, it's just real difficult to show the record companies. They really screw those artists. Okay?   And the art the artist, I think it's the door to stardom, and they don't pay attention. They don't hire lawyers or whatever. Look over some of that paperwork, and, boy, they just get rude, screwed, and tattooed.   I  

[02:05:14] Unknown:

mean, so Roger. Yep. Yes, Murr. I just I just back in that business, I know you mentioned it a little bit, but Clive Davis had a lot of clout back then too, didn't he? Had a lot of clout, hell. He he was the most recognized guy in the whole business. He ran CBS records for  

[02:05:30] Unknown:

a long time, and now all I thought he's probably dead by now. Now his name pops up in dealing with   well, all these things. He was the guy guy guy. He groomed he groomed Sean Combs.   Okay. Okay. Him and Yeah. The the guy that had the   oh, he was the brilliant guy that that I we used to work in his first   MLM thing of Keith Ranieri   that had the thing with the Bronfman girl and tattoos. Yes. And Carmine the tattoo.   Well, Clive Davis was involved in all that stuff. So at least that's what they're saying in the story. So,   yeah, I and, you know, yesterday, I had the occasion to mention,   freedom to fascism   and,   Russo,   and that his claim to fame was he discovered Bette Midler.  

K? And,   Bette Midler, when when some something happened about one of her records,   and she was at a cocktail party and went up and slapped   Clive Davis.   That's hard.   It was the talk of the industry. You know? So, yeah, these are, weird stories that go way back.  

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Whitney Houston,   passed a note to the next upcoming star. Right? And she died in the hotel. Right?  

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I guess.   I don't pay attention to it anymore.  

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It was Yeah. But she was supposedly   undercover,   CIA as well as being a great singer. You know? It was a surreal business to be in because,  

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well, like I said, when I decided to get out of it, the only   place I could carry the skills,   if you wanna call them that, that I developed was over into lobbying.   Hell, I wasn't gonna do that. So, anyway, here we are all these years later.   The good Lord showed me that for some reason, Mark.   Alright. Anybody got anything else for me? It's too pretty, a day, and I've got to get something in my Yeah. Real quick. Did you get that email I sent you, yesterday?  

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I've I've got a couple of them. From the lost lost horizons.   I've got ones with Jim Willie. I was watching those last night. No. No. It wasn't. It was something different. It was about the, it was about the national,   national issue.  

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I don't know if I put in there. I said they left out the most important part. They said they've without The United States was I put in place. Oh, okay. There you go. I understand what you're saying. Yeah. I I might have, but I was looking at it this morning and maybe hadn't had any coffee yet. So,   I'll see. Take a look at it again, then let me know what you think. Alright. Okay. That's it. Okay, Tom d. Thank you, baby, for being there. Yes. Anybody else? Alright.  

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Tom d.   Robbie, how how how the heaven are you?  

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We're,   yeah, we're just hanging in there. Still vertical   most of the time.  

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Well, I wanted to know if you had any comments. I know that you have a lot of knowledge about   mortgages   and,   credit stuff. I was surprised you didn't pipe up.  

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Well, I was listening to it, but I think Mark,   pretty you know, I went through I filed, like, five bankruptcies.   Okay. One real one way back in the 90s that's because the guy I was working for had his fingers in so many pies that he was holding back my paychecks and,   I finally just had it with him and quit, took all my checks and told him I'm going to cash one of these checks a week if they bounce, I'm going to the labor board. So he made   them good, but by that time, I was so deep   that I couldn't get out of it.   That was when I went to work for Ross Perot   as a network engineer   and that really screwed it up because they go like, oh, you got bankruptcy. Yes, I said, well, why is that a problem? Well, because you got debt. I said, no, I don't.  

I'm clear.   So and then   I filed four bankruptcies within maybe a fifteen month period just to shut down   a court case   for foreclosure.   And basically   held the mortgage company at bay for five point five years.   Hold on one second.   For five point five years,   just   trying to   get to the bottom of, you know, who who's the real owner of my mortgage, you know, who who who's the real   owner and do or is the holder in due course of my notes? Right. Right. Party of interest. Real pain in the butt. So Yeah. Boy, they don't wanna answer that question. Tom Schramm's  

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IRS stuff and took him to bankruptcy court. And that was the question, who's the party of interest here? Where's his payment going to? And, buddy, they wouldn't answer it. And then his wife decided she wanted a divorce,   and he had to pull himself out of bankruptcy.   And they jumped on him like a duck on a June bug. Okay?  

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Yeah.   Yeah. So, you know, there is, you know, there is ways, you know, but that was a that was a different thing about filing bankruptcy for taxes, penalties, and interests.   But that can be done, but there's a way you gotta do it right. But I'm sure. Foreclosure, basically, if you're gonna go if if you're going to go into foreclosure,   or if you're going to file bankruptcy because of that, just go in and file your bankruptcy   petition and   list the home as an unsecured debt.   And then that puts the mortgage company or   the bank or whoever has holding the mortgage puts them on the defense and then they've got to come in and prove that they're the holder, where if you put it down as a secured   debt, then there's no question   about   who's the owner. So you got to put them on the defense.  

As far as credit card charges and stuff, I heard   the fellows,   his friends,   his friend's   husband died and they got stuck with all the debt.   That's a different situation.   There's   ways to get around that too, but   you   got to do it right   and it's it's it's a mess. You know? I think Mark had the best solutions.  

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Tom, did you know Travis, who who, is the person that initiated all this as one of your announcers?  

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Oh, really? No. I didn't know that. Yeah. Hey, Travis. Meet your boss.  

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Yeah.   Yeah. I'm,   Yeah. I'm on RBN.  

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Yeah. So Okay. Well, yeah, your voice does sound familiar. I mean, I don't I don't get a lot of time to listen. I I mainly listen when I get email. I go back and check archives when people, you know, send me emails and say, hey. This happened or that happened or something was going on or somebody was, you know, saying stuff they shouldn't have been saying on the air and things like that. But, you know, basically, you know, it's Michael and Julie's hands   Samson.   So  

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but, it's in whose hands? It's gonna hold it together.   Who's holding the reins, Sam? I mean, you're the you're the ultimate agent supervisor.  

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What the hell are we in somebody's kitchen? What's going on?   Alright. I don't know. It sound like somebody who's He might taking the trash out. What an interesting coincidence that you'd meet one of your announcers on my channel. Yeah.  

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Oh, woah. Woah. Woah. Never ceases to amaze me. Okay. Anybody else got something for me? If not, I'm gonna dart off into the sun Roger? High noon. Yes, ma'am. That is Julie. Yes, ma'am.  

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Hi. Am I too loud?  

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You're not now. I'm too You're always too loud.  

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Sorry.  

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That's okay.  

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She's a very excitable young woman. Yes, Julie.  

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I just can't get her microphone.  

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It's my, yeah, it's my landline. I'm sorry.   I'm reading that book, Bashed by the Bankers, and it's one of the best books I've ever   Yeah. One of the best books I've ever read. Yeah. But what's more interesting   than that is that he references all these books that he read in order to figure this whole entire hoax out. Yes. And another book that's so good is the Truth in Money,  

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book Okay. Which  

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coincidentally,   is out of print. It's not available anywhere unless you wanna buy it for, like, a 100 or $200.   I did go to Anna's archive   to see if I could get it there, but,   she it's not free, I don't think. She has some servers that I guess you can download it from that weren't working. But   she her she needs donations for all the stuff she's giving,   for free. Yeah. But anyway, it's   it's very scary what's going on on how this whole thing is gonna play out. I know 100% we're getting a new digital financial system, which is not good with digital IDs.   I follow Jim Willie   like you do. I listen to him a lot, but another person that you should actually listen to is Josh Reed,   because he's got a totally different take on,   on what's gonna take place   regarding the new financial system. So   he's talking about   I mean, all this stuff is very bad. The Genius Act is bringing The US stablecoins,   which is those are digital, those are CBDCs.  

It's just a different name for a central bank digital currency.   You've got the,   big, big bill that they're passing, which   prohibits   states from interfering with the federal AI that they're building out that Palantir is building out for 2020. We don't. We don't. That's horrible. The the it's being altered  

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by at by the minute on this floor of the senate. We don't know if that'll still be in there. Maybe. Probably will be, but it may not be either. So  

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Yeah.   But, anyway,   Josh read Josh Reed,   if you go and read   the new strategic   Bitcoin Reserve bill in Congress,   and it's still being worked out as well,   it actually calls for all of the Federal Reserve Banks to turn in   all gold certificates to the Treasury for reissuance.   Basically, the Secretary of the Treasury is gonna reissue new gold certificates at the current market value of gold,   and   Federal Reserve Banks will have to compensate the federal   federal government for the difference. So that means that   when the Bretton Woods agreement  

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They are cutting out again, Julie.   Don't know what's causing that.   Happens occasionally.  

[02:16:47] Unknown:

Can I jump in here just for a second with the Tom d?   What what was the name of the article at the Lost Horizons? I wasn't familiar with that site, and I brought it up. Could you tell me the name of the article, please?  

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Let me I have to look real quick. Hold on.   Let's see.   It was,   misunderstand it's,   losthorizons.com/tax/misunderstandings/td23thirteen,   which was what you guys were talking about the other day, that 4t313.hh   .htm.   So you got losthorizons.com/tax/misunderstandings/pd2313h.htm.  

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Yikes. And, slash, you know, it's a forward slash. Okay? Slash forward slash. Okay. Okay. Thank you. And I like this saying from Thomas Thomas Paine on there. There are two distinct,   two distinct classes of men,   those who pay taxes and those who receive and live upon taxes. Thank you, Thomas Dean.  

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Lost Horizons. Who's whose website is that? That rings a bell.   Tom, you know?  

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Hey, Roger.  

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Well, there's Bob. Look real quick. Okay. No. Don't don't Yeah. Lost Horizons is Pete Henderson.  

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That's what I'm talking about. Woken up. He's totally he's totally out there. He's he's got no concept of the national status Okay. Unless I'll capitalize that. Unless he's come to his senses. I see. Time in the pokey, so did his wife. They were doing the old patriot mythology crap about, I'm not a federal employee, blah blah blah. Uh-huh. Wasn't he I'm not saying he I'm not saying he hasn't changed. I haven't looked at his stuff for years, but Lost Horizons is Pete Henderson's old site. And unless he's wakened,   he's not something we need to be talking about. Is he the guy that used to be a bartender  

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before he got into this stuff,  

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or was that another guy? Oh, that kinda rings a bell, but, honestly, I kinda forgot about him, but Lost Horizons tripped my trigger. Okay. Hey. And okay. Well, thank you. Unless he's woken up, there's nothing there for us. K. Well, thank you. Out.  

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He was missing he was missing the important point. That's what Tom was pointing out. Yeah. I see. Yep. Alright. Alright.  

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Okay. Well, I'm gonna go eat lunch. Yeah. We can see you all tomorrow.  

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Yeah. The important the important part that he was overlooking was where it stated, that these issues were  

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from without The United States. So I guess he doesn't understand what that means, you know, without The United States. Yeah. Yeah. Well, there are a lot of people that don't understand a whole lot of things, folks, is what I found out. And we try and   contact them, see if we resonate with them, and then straighten them out if they're   open minded. But, boy, you know, as you've seen on the show here,   some of these Patriot things that got put in people's minds is mighty damn hard to get it out of there.   So, anyway,   I'll see y'all tomorrow. Have a great day. We'll see what happens here in the rest of there seems to be a turning going on. I think Trump is realizing   how sleazy these people are.  

Hope so. Best thing can happen is we separate ourselves from their control, and it may be happening by demographics.   Just simply growing out of it.   Say a prayer. See you tomorrow.   Ciao.  

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Hey, Tom.  

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Yes, sir.  

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So are you near Round Rock?  

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Yeah. I used to live in Round Rock,   And, but we had a we had a problem with,   an,   jackass across the street who   shot and almost killed a guy who almost died on my front porch, and   we, had to get the hell out of there.   Yeah. Yeah. But, no, I'm up I'm up near Killeen now.  

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Oh, okay.  

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So, yeah, I'd I'd   like to meet you sometime. I'm in Cedar Park,   if at all possible.  

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We used to go to the Church's Chicken in Cedar Park all the time. It's now it's closed, and it was probably the best one to run that we had ever found.   But, yeah, we could we could do that sometime.  

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Yeah. It'd be great. I like my own people. I mean,  

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you know, I know Send me send me your phone number.   Send me send me your phone number on an email to, [email protected].  

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Okay. Let me let me type that.   Alright. Thank you. My name is Izana, by the way.  

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And What's your name? Izana, e z a n a, and, we can see it. We'll call you e z. We'll call you e z. I'm good. Touch. Everybody call you e z? People call me.  

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Yeah. Yeah. Or, sometimes,   I I heard one time a a friend call me, just this girl I just met. So he goes, it's a good thing you're not a girl, you know, because it's easy.  

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Yeah. Yeah. Easy.   That's pretty good.   Yeah. The, it was a I don't know if you ever watched that show on my end, but the one guy, Ezekiel, they called him Easy.  

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Okay.  

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So yeah. Alright. Yeah. Send me an email. [email protected].  

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@republiclogo.org.  

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Okay.   Alright. Thank you. Yeah. Dot org. Dot o r g.   Okay. Cool. And I'll get back to you.  

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Thank you.   Okay.  

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Alright. You all have a good day. I gotta go.  

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Thanks, Tom.  

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Have a good day. Thanks.  

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So who's Tom again from, RBN? I'm trying to remember.  

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D e e is his last name.   Tom d.   Does he have a show there, or is he one of the producers? I can't remember who Tom is. I I I guess he's the boss, but he lets them all run it. He's busy, and he has some some health things. And,   but,   I guess that Yeah.  

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And then we start off with Tom Dee is a computer guy, tech guy. And when John Stattmiller was alive,   you know, Tom called the show a couple times, and they hit it off. And Tom ended up showing he lived on in Pennsylvania or Florida or something, and he ended up going to Round Rock, Texas and,   helped Tom or helped, John fix some computer stuff.   And, I guess when John died, he pretty much left him in charge.   He moved the tech, which he he lives, you know, doesn't live in Round Rock. They used to, but one of his neighbors come knocking on the door one night, and he was all shot up. And   he tells a story about how, you know, one of the other neighbors shot the guy who lived across the street from him.  

And, he showed up on his front doorstep  

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all bleeding everywhere. He just brought that up. Yeah. He's from Pennsylvania, and he and he came to stay. Brought all his,   technology,   tools and wizardry.  

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Cool. Okay.  

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He did have a show on RBN, but I don't believe he does anymore. He'll step in and fill in places sometimes and, you know, we had Roger up there a few times when he had his own platform, but he don't do that anymore, I don't think. Haven't heard of him in a long time. Yeah. It was when they were filling in the national intel report after John passed. There were different people filling in there. Yeah.  

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And, someone mentioned in the chat, and, you'll find it on the, matrixstocks.com.   There's very good interview he did with Roger   Yeah. Concerning all of this. So  

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When did you show up on RBN, Travis?  

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Pretty pretty recently about a year and a half ago.   Something like that.   Okay. And I didn't even really know about RBN for the longest time until   I think,   yeah, somebody turned me on to him. I was like, oh, cool. And then I knew, William doing it.   And Okay. He talked to Mike for me and just found me a spot.   Yeah. I found up.  

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You were on with them flat earth guys in the morning over there on, Truth Frequency.   I'm not sure how long I heard you on there. I don't think it was very long before they went off the air.   Yeah. I'm I'm trying to remember who when that was and who who that was. Yeah. I I can't remember their names right off, but there was a guy in Louisiana.   I think he was a musician.   You know,   they he talked a lot about weed,   getting high and stuff. And then there was a guy in New York.   I can't remember his name, and they had another guy.   And they they were the iron workers or something like that. Ironworks   was the name of the show.  



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Man, I don't I don't ever remember being on that that one. But They came up at, like,  

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you know, it was real early in the morning here. I'm in Michigan at so eastern,   and it was, like, five in the morning. There was at, like I used to listen to, Zachary k Hubbard,   all the time Wednesday nights, you know, from midnight.   He'd from nine to midnight, he was the Gematria   effect guy.   Mhmm. You you know who that is?  

[02:27:46] Unknown:

No. I'm not familiar with him. I don't know about it. Look up stuff. Look up Gematria  

[02:27:52] Unknown:

effect   news   25   on, YouTube.   The last time I was on there, it was his twenty fifth channel that because they kept kicking him off. You know what Jamatria is?   Yeah. I'm familiar with that. Okay. Well, he's the guy. He decodes,   and the guy is incredible.   He's awesome. That's what,   I mean, that that didn't bring me over there, but, Chris Gio had a show on   Genesis   Communications   Network,   GCN.   And I used to listen to him, and then he gave out a call and listen line phone number one time that pulled me over to, you know, Truth Frequency Radio. And then I discovered a bunch of other guys like Roger over there. And,   anyway,   that's where I heard you,   and it's been off the air, man, for god. It's gotta be over a year.  

Maybe when you showed up over there on RBN, I I didn't know you were there for a long time because I did other stuff at, you know, at that time of night on Friday nights when you're up.   But,   I like what you do, and, I I'm really impressed with that tablet. Even though I haven't seen it yet,   I can't wait to to get one of them things ordered. So  

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I think it's a great idea. We'll we'll take care of you. Just   reach out on that, website. It's probably the best way or   or get my email directly, and I'll,   I can,   yeah, set you up whenever you're ready.  

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Okay. Appreciate that.  

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I can send that to your email that your wife reads. Right?   Yeah.  

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Okay. Yeah. That would be great. Thanks, Murr.  

[02:29:37] Unknown:

Yeah. Thank you, Murr. Appreciate for posting all those links earlier.  

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Sure.  

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Yeah. I'm gonna get my sister,   phone here in a second. So hop off and   let me talk to her a little bit, try to send her to watch that first video or that video that, Roger was talking about.   Get her interested a little bit and,   to talk to her about the importance of   setting herself up for success, you know, now.   So  

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Hey, Travis?  

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Yeah.  

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I'm on your website, comcoms.lakelink   right now.   Okay. Because I'm also interested in that tablet.   And it says,   prepared tablet   loaded loaded with everything you need to survive. And at the bottom, it says a $175,   and then it says included with all prepared tablets.   And it has the five b   solar panel that did the hard   case, the, EMP flip cover.   What is,  

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I don't know where that price came from. I don't know.   Let me have to look at that.   Yeah. I wonder what did you, how how did you get to that little page there? What was I just went to comcom's link, and then I went to menu.  

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And I went to, I clicked on menu. And after menu, I clicked on,   prepare tablet exclusive.  

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Okay.   Let's see here.  

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Travis, it sounds like you're having a sale and you don't even know it. Yeah.  

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I guess so.  

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That's funny.   Million.  

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Yeah. I was like, where's the $2.50? It said $1.75   here on your site. I think you have to honor that to all of the nationals. You're right. Exactly. That's the that's  

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the Radio Ranch price. Right?  

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Well, I guess Amazon Prime Day is coming. I can see how cheap these things go.   You're right.   That's funny. Yeah. I see right now. I see it right now. That's that's that's an error right there. Oh my god. No. It's gotta be honored.  

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Especially for the national.  

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Travis, I hope you sell a million of them things, man, and and, you know,   and you never gotta work again. But that that that thing is a a an idea way past its prime. You know?  

[02:32:10] Unknown:

Thanks, man.   Yep. I appreciate it. The real thing that makes it I think, you know, the case and the solar charger are nice, but definitely buy at least the thumb drive. If you can you know, it's only $20. We're not we're not trying to gouge people. We're just trying to get it in people's hands, make enough money to get by, and make it somewhat worth our while.   And,   but you have to buy the extended memory.   Okay. Because I think the benefit of that is if you've got a big library of stuff, you can load all that stuff on your little hard drive. You put your family pictures,   any important documents on that little thumb drive. And then that way, you could just at least load it onto your tablet or view it from the thumb drive.  



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What's the memory of that thumb drive?  

[02:32:51] Unknown:

I think it's a 128 gigabytes.   Pretty sure we could buy a good one. You know, we buy the one with a lot of memory. And so the it's a USB c on one side, and it's USB a on the other side. So you could plug it into your laptop or computer, load it up, and then plug it into your,   tablet and and still be able to use it.   Cool. So that yeah. We try to make it, you know, versatile.   And then, you know, and if if somebody has   the extra money, I highly recommend buying the radios too   because the radios give you the ability to kinda listen in on what's going on around you. You know, even if the grids go down and whatnot, people might have radios. And especially if they're talking on the, you know, the   the blister back frequencies.  

Well, like the little walkie talkies, you know, you get them in the dark. So if they're talking on those frequencies   and, you know, things are crazy, you're gonna know they're close by you. Yep. And so you kinda wanna just be monitoring what's going on close by you. You know, if you live in the woods, you can't really see much. Kinda wanna have some ears out there. So   the whole idea is just to get people a little more familiar with having   a backup ham radio. And so what we do is we unlock all the frequencies. You know, you'll have GMRS,   frequencies. You have all the FRS channels.  

You have all the marine channels or whatever. You know, any any little rods. Marine?   Yeah. We could put the marine channels on there. And then we put all the local ham channels, the the guys in your area   that run the repeaters. We put all those in there. We program those in.   And then if your town has, you know, fire, police,   they're not running encrypted radios.   We get those frequencies, put those on your radios too.   That way you just have a versatile radio that   and and mind you, you can talk. If you hit the transmit button, you're able to talk to the ham repeaters.   Mhmm. The whole thing about the licensing of ham radio is I think it's just mostly to try to keep the riffraff out   of the ham radio guys this way. The guy the ham radio guys take it real serious,   and they like their frequencies unmolested and blah blah blah. And so they they'll call you out if you're not using your call sign.  

But in a   should hit the fan situation, nobody's gonna care about the FCC. So Right. At least your radio set up, ready to go. And   for how long, I don't know. You know? I don't know how that's going.  

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How Right. Now I heard you I heard you say on your show   that the range is about a 150 miles on that. Is that right?  

[02:35:29] Unknown:

Well, what what we do is we grab everything within a 150 miles of your area.   Okay. So so we grab everything around you in a big wide area so that way, in case you're in that area,   it you know, radio is really terrain dependent.   If you go up on top of a hill, you're gonna hear much better than you would in the valley. So you you you'll be able to hear a repeater on top of that hill that might be forty, fifty, 60 miles away.   Okay. And so the idea is just to get you a nice,   good base to put it in. Now   when you communicate on a repeater,   whatever that repeater's footprint is is how far your   radio signal will travel, but that's only because of the repeater.  

So if you're just talking radio to radio, they're they're good from anywhere from,   one to 10 miles depending on terrain. If you're in heavy,   dense, thick woods and in hilly terrain,   you might not get more than a mile. But if you're on open terrain out in the desert and somebody's kind of on a hill and they got a kind of a line of sight, you could easily get 10 miles out of these radios. That's that's radio to radio.   We call that simplex.  

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Okay.  

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And, but How many how many radios do you get for that price? Four, six, seven. So so we do these little, packages or bundles. We do the the tablet and two radios,   And the tablet comes with the solar charger and the case   Temperature. For, 350.   So you get two Okay. Radios, the the charger, the case, and the tablet for 350.   Okay. And we'll do some training with you too. If you're interested just learning how the basics of the radios work,   and we're just gonna teach you how to use the radio. That's what everybody wants to know,   how to use the radio, what to do with it.  



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Somebody's got some mute off.  

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Yeah. No big deal. But but, basically, you know, if you need if you need any training, we'll help you.  

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Alright. Cool.  

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Yeah. Well, you just set up a time. We'll call you. 4 radios.  

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61.  

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That's good. Oh, you could play 4.  

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Looks like you need to mute s s.  

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Get in there.  

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Somebody forgot to mute. Right?   Probably a common thing. We want everything.  

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Yeah. I'm in California,   and the county I'm in and the county south of us   have organized,   radio groups.  

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So there's a community of the radio groups, and then what they do is  

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people with the higher properties,   outlook points, and such like that is where they put their repeaters.   So as a group, they can monitor pretty much what's going on in their area quite well.  

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Right. And the biggest reason they started it was for the,  

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to give people heads up on the fires.   Right. And then the,   at first, in Amador County, the sheriff was against it, but   the community organized so well for one fire that now he supports it.   They saved a lot of people's property,   by knowing what was going on and coming to the call because people have you know, out here in the country, I have a lot of cats and tractors and so they were able to build fire lines and all that good stuff. So it can mean a big difference.  

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Right.   That's why the ham radio is still kind of an important thing. And a lot of people just, you know, forget it even exists. And so the thing we found out with the radios is, you know, I bought a ham radio years ago before I got into the getting my license and all that. And I sat on it for two years, and I occasionally pull out the manual. It's written in Chinglish.   And I'm so I have no idea how to use this thing. And I'm like,   what what good is this? So anyways, eventually, I got to the point where I went to this one of these, like,   community meetings like you, just a different thing.  

But they're called the YCPT,   like,   community prepping group. Okay?   And they program my radio and I watched them do it. And I was like, oh, that looks easy. I could do that. And, you know, just started kinda picking it up from there.   But, yeah, most people will buy these kind kinds of radios, and they just sit on them. They don't use them. They don't play with them.   They don't know how to program them.   So   that's the advantage of getting it programmed.  

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You know, they have their field day, twenty eighth to, what, twenty ninth. It's,   a   no. Arrl.org.   So the, amateur   radio, whatever.   Yeah. So they're having their their, field day. I guess people are getting in on  

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And my partner knows a lot more about the radios than I do. He's he's a,   so I have the general or technician's license.   He has the general license.   And so he's he's he's got a more high powered radio, and he could talk to,   you know, halfway across the planet and this and that. I haven't got to that level yet. I just kinda wanted more of a mobile   radio that I can carry with me.   You know, just learn the basics and figure this out just   as a preparedness thing.   Eventually, when I have some more money and time, I'd like to get into the the the bigger radios and   higher frequency stuff.  

But that's just kinda   that's Yeah. You know, eventually  

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If if I may. Me. Everybody's different. If I may. Frederick C. Blackbird got into that and,   not too long after, you know well, it's been about a year, I guess, or or more that he's been really into it and studying it and going to the classes and everything. And and that's when hurricane Helene was,   you know, put on to North Carolina, let's say.  

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If I may?   Yes, sir. Let me connect the dots.   ARRL   stands for,   Amateur   Radio   Relay   League,   and the PDFs   of   ARRL   manuals,   documents,   and,   training materials   are freely available,   particularly on archive.org.   Just Google,   ARRL   manual,   and you will find tech resources, how to design and build antennas,   morse code,   tutorials, all kinds of stuff.   ARRL,   Amateur Radio Relay League.  

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Thank you. Yeah. And the and the arrl.org   is the, National Association   for Amateur Radio. That's someone having the field day and stuff. So Yeah. Then Travis, what brand radio are you offering in your package?  

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So we go with the   Beofeng   UV 17 r.   I see a UV 17 r. It's either the r or the pro. I can't remember which version.   And the reason we did that is because they're relatively cheap. They're relatively easy to use.   And   you could buy two or three of them for the cost that you would pay   to go with a more, what you call with quote, like a premium radio.   Because these bail things work pretty much the same as these premium radios. And   the idea was just to, you know, get them in people's hands. They weren't spending a bunch of money on them.   And, you know, hopefully, they could buy a pair rather than just one because, you know, one is none, two is one. And you might wanna hand one to your neighbor if things get crazy. You know? Hey. Call me on channel three if, you know, things look bad. You know what I mean?  

So that's that was the whole idea with us choosing that radio.   Okay. And they've been they've been pretty reliable. They're pretty durable.   Set we sell them for $75   each if preprogrammed.   If you if you're buying more than, you know, we could probably cut that down to 65. If you're buying more than two or three,   we we'll we'll drop that price. We'll work with anybody, you know, on a custom basis. And  

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Yeah. There's millions of them out there too. So they're, easy to get parts for.  

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Yes. Yeah. They are. Right. And, And the the whole idea is too is if you buy them in sets, then you have them programmed exactly the same. And so if you're handing one to your,   your spouse or whatever and you know how to work it, you could show them, well, this is how you basically turn the turn the channel, and this is how you scan.   You know? Or you hand one to your son three miles down down the road. You you're teaching them on the same platform, basically. Mhmm. Hey, Travis.  

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Yes, sir. So, yeah, this is Dave in the thumb here in Michigan. I'm a nutrition and health coach, and I can hear you wheezing.   You got a little wheezing out of breath. Stop   eating wheat,   barley,   rye, or oats or drinking it.   It that that that's why you're wheezing like that. You're you're not getting enough omega three fatty acid or you're not absorbing it because of those four foods or drinks or whatever.  

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And walnuts are hard are high in omega three, but I think you're a smoker too, aren't you?  

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Yes. That's another thing. Well, guess what? Guess what, Travis?   Smokers can reduce their risk of lung cancer   by by forty seven percent, I think,   by taking omega three fatty acids.  

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Okay.  

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And like I said, walnuts, they're high in omega threes. They look like a little brain. You probably got black walnut trees out there, don't you?  

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In Alaska or Arizona? We do. In Alaska. Arizona. I don't know I don't know about Alaska. I know we do it in Arizona.  

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Okay. Good.   Smokers don't get COVID. Smokers don't get COVID.  

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Not necessarily.   Don't don't smoke cigarettes. Listen. Not necessarily.  

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Listen. I'm just saying. I'm just Yeah. I know. If  

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smokers get the jab, they probably would still get COVID. But,   we're we're a nicotine patch,   Travis, and you get your nicotine from a patch and eat,   the   the,  

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Nightshade plant.  

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Yeah. Nightshade vegetables,   and there's lots of nicotine in them,  

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like potatoes and eggplant. And  

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You don't need other nicotine is what I'm saying with the with the nightshade. And that's potatoes, tomatoes, peppers, and aubergine, my favorite eggplant has the most. But,   any any of those,   and and it also,   you know, it's less nicotine, but it's plenty. And those foods actually help clear  

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the plaque in the brain like dementia and Parkinson's and stuff too. So Well, make sure if you get the patches, it's rugby brand, r u g b y. It's one of the only ones you can find that don't have aspartame in them.  

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Oh, wow.  

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Nobody ever mentions the difference between cigarettes and tobacco. If you'd smoke tobacco,   you you're minus about 3,000 different chemicals   by smoking cigarettes.  

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I don't recommend the I don't recommend the rugby patches. That's been, debunked. There's graphene oxide in them as well as glycoprotein,   which is in the ivermectin,   which causes neurotoxicity,   once it crosses the blood brain barrier. I know doctor Brian Artis,   just completely brags about them and wears a three milligram patch daily.   I've heard they're bad. I think   we stay away from those. What did what did  

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Hippocrates say? What did Hippocrates say? Let food be your medicine and medicine be your food. Exactly. Thank you. Amen for that.  

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Alright.  

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If I may,   back on the radio topic, I've had a both bank for over a half a decade,   and they whatever plastic they use in there, these things are pretty rugged. They can take a pretty good balance.   They aren't waterproof, but they are water repellent.   And, you're right. It's a very good bargain for $80 or whatever on that.  

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Thank you. Appreciate that feedback.  

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Yeah. I'm on that page looking at that. And so comcoms.link/pre-program-radios,   and it's a u v one seven r. It's what you were saying. Right?  

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Yeah.  

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And Mark Kornke,   the militia guy, he recommends them BaoFang Radios all the time. So, yeah, they're they're supposed to be the easiest to use. They're probably some of the cheapest handhelds out there. Right?   Yeah. They are. And what Sheldon just said, they're they're pretty rugged. So thank you.  

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No problem. The the other thing we do too is we sell the, LoRa radios too, l o r a. And those are the,   they send a base basically, you download a,   an app onto your tablet or your phone,   and you   use, like, a it's basically text messaging.   But it's actually a little tiny radio that sends out a 815   megahertz signal,   and it it operates like a mesh network. And, supposedly, it's such a small packet. It's it's supposedly totally encrypted.   And the more people that deploy,   these nodes or radios around, the more they we will have, like,   a independent communication grid that's, you know,   not government regulated.  

We own the node. The node pass the traffic on no matter what.   And, you know, if you're if you have the key for your chat or yours,   group,   then you could read the messages.   But if you don't have that encryption key, you're not gonna be able to read the messages that your your node is passing through. So the more people that have these LoRa devices, the better off we'll be. And,   but it's slowly taken off, and it's kinda kind of a big country to cover for that. But, you know, in in some some areas and, places, they have pretty good network set up where   people actually can communicate with these LoRa devices off the   radio itself. Now the the devices are also connected to the Internet. For texting?  

It's for texting. Correct. It's just a text messaging thing. You you can't send any pictures.   You could you could send a small link, I believe. You're limited in the the I can't remember how many characters you could use, but   you could send a link.   But, yeah, basically, it's just text messaging.   Cool. And it it it actually does connect through the Internet   while the Internet's available right now. And the thing is, it might make it through the Internet even if the Internet's down because it's such a small   packet of information.  

Interesting. They they they could be a very, very useful device.  

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Yeah. That's the next link.   That's the next link down the, sidebar. And, yeah,   decentralized communication, no dedicated router required.   I yield.  

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Is there a map or a somebody that's keeping track of all this so you can see how many are in your area if you need to make a purchase or not? And is it also working on 900 megahertz through cell frequencies or what?  

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It's it's,   it's independent of the cell frequencies. It's,   so what it is, it's a unlicensed   band in the,   FCC. I think it's, like, 900 to 930 megahertz.   It's like an unlicensed band. So these LoRa radios kinda developed this their own   proprietary,   I guess,   messaging app, basically. So you could find there's a couple different maps. There's the app is called Meshtastic,   m e s   h tastic, Meshtastic.   And look that up, and that will give you a map or, like, mesh map,   .org is another one. There's a couple different maps. So people report to different maps. So,   I wish I had Jeff in here because he he can explain Laura way better than I can. But it's kind of a unique little interesting thing. And so what we could do is program   you know, download the app onto the tablet and have your LoRa radio already set up to your tablet.  

And that way, you know, you have this little   chat   feature you can go into your tablet and communicate out your radio with it.  

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That's pretty cool. Yeah. So people come coms.link.   And if you go there and, like I said, go down the sidebar and go to Laura, and there's,   l o r a, and there is   a live link to go to this, map   he's talking about.  

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Oh, thanks, Murr.   Murr is always on   it's a chats. And look at this stuff. Love I put it in there, and   I love it. Thank you, Murr.  

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She's so on it.  

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I just like to be be helpful.  

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No. You're good.  

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Yeah. But there it is. Real time. Laura mishtastic map. So you can kinda see how many nodes are in your area and realize this is just one map that's being reported to.   So   there's other maps and people doing other stuff on these things.   So it's showing right now about,   2,800   nodes   in The US,   Continental US. And if I go to the   you can keep zooming in on this little map   and pinning them down. So in California, there's 900. If I go to LA area, there's 360.   You keep zooming in, and it shows you, you know, there's 67 near Long Beach and,   you know, nine outside   of way East of LA.  

Keep zooming in, and it kinda just breaks it down where   you can see the coverage in your area.   So, obviously, the big cities are gonna be way more covered than the rural areas, but the way it works is it it it it sends the signal out via the radio no matter what.   But if if you tell it to, it'll communicate through the Internet. So if your device has Internet,   meaning from your Wi Fi, your your let's say your tablet's connected to your Wi Fi,   it will actually   send a signal out through   the app.   And it sends it to, basically, all the nodes if or or if through the Internet, and they they pick it up too. You know?   So you have a general chat that everybody can see.  

And then if you you could set up your own private chat. So there's, like, little subgroups like,   you know, California,   Southern California, or, you know, North Carolina.   They have little subgroups, and you could   dial it down. You could figure out, like, how to   message just these individual people or a group of people. So you could set it up however you want. It's pretty simple. It's pretty use you know, easy to click around and   figure it out.   And I just wanna note too that yeah. No. All these radios can be programmed by yourself. Like, it's not we're not trying to push people into, you know, buying our stuff, but it's just sometimes it's easier to give that   to somebody else. If you're not that into the tech stuff and you and you don't like programming things and setting things up and troubleshooting that kind of stuff,   then it's it's just   in the cheaper and easier in the long run to just pay somebody else to do it. It's like fixing your car. You might be able to fix to tear out the engine and put a new one in, but is it worth your time? Is it gonna sit in your driveway for three weeks?  

You know what I mean?   So it's not that it's tear terribly different to program these difficult to program these radios, but, you know, you gotta load the app the the Chirp app.   You gotta know how to find the   community   stations. You gotta know how to upload it to the radio. It's it's not that hard. We could walk anybody through that, but,   again, a lot of people don't even wanna mess with it.   So that's why there's a lot of these bail fangs out in this country that   are sitting in the closet   not being used because nobody knows how to use it in the house.   And I did it myself.  



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And and then the next link is the base,   amplifier,   mobile stakes and amplifier. So that's pretty interesting.  

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That is something Jeff has created, and we haven't seen another one out there like that. And,   he's we've sold a couple of them, and he's gotten about 30 miles of these LoRa radios   in   in hilly,   wooded terrain.   And I have two of the amps. I just haven't had time to   fully test them, and a lot of things came up and went in different directions, but   they're pretty they're pretty cool. They'll get they'll get some really solid range, especially the higher up you get that antenna, the better off you are.   So Jeff's just kind of a guru genius with this stuff, And,   just fortunate I met Jeff, and we just started   working together. And, you know, the first idea was selling the preprogram radios, and then   I was like, hey. Here's something I wanna do. And told him up my idea with the the tablet   and just having a digital library because,   you know, I got all these books, but I can't carry these books around and they're heavy. And   but just to have these books in a digital format was   something I always envisioned.  

And, anyways, one thing led to another,   and here we are.   And, you know, you could always reach out and get ahold of Jeff and I. You can call us. You could email us.   Might take a minute, but we'll call you back. And   we're here to help out, make sure you know how to use it.   Any issues, you can call us. We'll we'll get it taken care of. We'll send it back, get you a new one. You know? We've   done all this. We've been doing this for a little while. Nobody's got any bad complaints.  

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So is this emergency and medical stuff? Is that part of the package?  

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That you can add it in there. I think we're gonna come up with another bundle. Yeah. Jeff's Jeff's been working on,   lab a deal and all this stuff.   He's decided to, like, make a, like, a,   like, a nuclear survival kit. We haven't figured out what it what to call it, but it's, you know, got a potassium iodine. You know, it's like a first aid kit, but it's got all these, you know, good supplements and this and that in it.   Anyways, I don't exactly know what   what we're doing with that one yet. So that one's pretty new.   So   well, you can buy the the a guy did buy the first aid medical kit, but I I think it was before Jeff,   put all that stuff in it. You know?  

All the supplements and whatnot.   So, eventually, we'll have   a lot more detail on that.   What does it say now? Did you put it on there already?   Where is that, Mara?  

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I was just looking at it.   Where where are you looking?  

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I was just is was it on the website?  

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Yeah. Yeah.   Yeah. That was the next thing down. So I was just checking it out.  

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Okay.  

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I'll put it in there. Anyways, that'll be coming out soon. Yeah.   I'll fix that pricing. I don't I don't know what what we're doing there. I I I think we What is it? I thought it's already fixed.  

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It's the fix is in. I you did have a special there for a little while, didn't you?   At one point? Yeah.  

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Yeah. But I think that was before we, like, included the case and   the charger and all that. And the cases are kinda kinda pricey  

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Well, it was on sale. Yeah. It was just a short term thing. It just didn't get changed to back to the normal price. Right. What happened?  

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So yeah. My my main goal is   to get my sister on track and think of, you know,   been a month. It's been a hard month, but having the,   the closure, the, the celebration of life was probably   big for her. I know it was big for me at least. And,   that went well. And I guess it's time to, you know, pick up the pieces and   move on. You know?  

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Yeah. I I like that idea of having a celebration rather than, you know, somebody's it's just like  

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add to the grief, you know, rather. It's kind of a yeah. I mean, it's Oh, he was anyway. But Yeah. He was a big partier. You know, he liked to he liked to hang out and drink and have fun, and he would've loved it.   So   Right. Better way to see somebody off doing something they would've really had fun doing. You know?   So it brought some of the family together that hadn't been talking for a while and,   you know, bear bury the old differences and move on. And   so that was kind of a good thing that came out of it.  

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Yeah. Yeah. But,   both your sister   and you and and your wife would be well advised to listen to Sarah's story.   And, another thing, Roger always says, one sentence is all you need to send,   but I think I may be the only one that has actually sent one sentence.  

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You know? You did it and sent just one?  

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Yeah.   Yeah. Their sentence, except where it says being duly sworn, I changed that to being affirmed by God.   So it's it's I and my name being affirmed by God declare my intention to be a national and not a citizen of The United States.   Simple.   Nothing to rebut.   You know? Don't get into the entanglement of the Fourth Amendment and all the other   gibberish.  

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Right. Right. Just keep it simple.  

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Yeah.   You know, you have your cover letter and, of course,   you you know, the well, you'll see the information there when you're looking through this stuff.   Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I was already scanning it last night. But I like to tell people that because they they aren't aware. Roger says it, but they aren't aware that you actually can do that. One sentence. It's been done. Do it. Right. Right. You know?  

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And that might be what I do. It's just myself first and then   get her to do it. And Right. And then go out and do the kids. And  

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Yeah. It's important to get the children. After hearing Sarah's story, I'm like, wow. You know? Because the daughter was 16 and it's kinda rebellious. And,   and CPS had had her in their clutches, but they had to let her go. The you know, where they had her,   the,   attorneys and stuff for the place said, you're right. You know,   you you can take her. They don't have jurisdiction.   That's, you know  

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Wow.  

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Yep.  

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Wow.  

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Pretty impressive.   I played it on my show when I had the one hour promos back, December,   2022,   and so I had the links in there and stuff. But,   yeah. But it's in the chat room there,   All that stuff.  

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Yeah. I should probably give my sister a call.   I'll probably be calling in a little more and listening on the conference calls and   we'll take the take the bull by the horn. I I have to try to remember what Mark's plan was, but I think he was talking about paying off all the highest interest ones first. And,   yeah, I just hate to see good money go after bad money. You know what I mean? I hate to see her take all that money and just throw it after all this debt, but I don't know if there's any way out of it. You know?   But that's why   I've just make the first steps and try to figure it out.  



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There's a lot of there's a lot of free material out there on cancel how to cancel your credit cards.   Right.   I think you just have to Google it and look because   we're in the after show, we've been speaking a lot about how to get our mortgages canceled because they're all law lawless.   All this money   is not money. We all know it's currency. We all know it was printed out of thin air using the general ledger accounting book bookkeeping system.  

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And  

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enough to make you wanna grow up every day. You wake up when you hear what the Federal Reserve Bank has done to all of us. But   I do know and I've researched this. We   we've tried using bill of exchanges. We've tried   using   our own   we tried using our own   promissory notes   to basically   as a   legal tender.   But my understanding   right now is that all of these criminals that are in power are not accepting any of these things. So   that's the   that's the bad thing. Anything that is a negotiable   instrument is legal tender. You'll find that in all of the laws.   So, technically speaking, you should be able to create a promissory note   back because all our   money, or currency, whatever you wanna create it, is created as debt.  

And so it's just borrowed into   existence. And and so, basically, you should be able to create your own promissory note too.   And,   that was that's considered legal tender, but it's not being it's not being recognized and you get arrested, and they're and they're they've been instructed not to accept it. What do we do? Yeah. You don't wanna be arrested. Well, like Paul said, and I've actually done this,  

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is making two payments   on a mortgage   each month. The second payment is totally principal, no interest.   And that brings it down really quick.  

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Right.  

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Yeah. But Right. Is that trying to Given the fact that the mortgages are complete and utter fraud and that the bank accounts really are not bank accounts and that we have a trust legacy account in treasury number two in Puerto Rico   that where we are the creditors that that belong to us.   Well, that's why they're trying to kill us. That's why they're trying to kill us off. Of course. That's what I'm trying to that's what I'm trying to figure out. I mean, I I know what trust number is. It's number Trust number 62, and I know the code of federal regulations that put that into   existence. So I know it exists.  

You don't just make statutes and stuff like that   for no reason.   But   I still haven't figured out exactly how to gain get access to that because they've they keep manipulating   everything on where you can get it, where you can find it, and where it's located. I know that the attorney general   in The United States is the trustee,   over   that trust, which has all of our birth certificates in it via our CUSIP numbers.  

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So I'm still trying to figure it out. When I figure it out, I'm gonna share it with everybody. Yeah. Keep digging. And I agree with you. I've had many conversations with with people. Anyways, my my boss is here. I'm gonna have to I I got a  

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Travis. But Yeah. You you were told I I don't know. Before you before you go down the road of anything that's risky.   I got it. I'm done. Definitely. I encourage you to follow my suggestion and   dispute every one of these debts first   and get, you know, get get an attempt to have them verify them.   That's the first thing you you should do, in my opinion.  

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Mhmm.  

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Right.   Yeah. And I agree. I that, like,   you gotta take it small steps.   Do the basics first, and that's a good start right there.   Dispute it, see where it goes, and then go from there. And, Travis, if they don't have  

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a wet ink contract   with her wet ink   autograph on it, they don't have a contract.  

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Right.   Right. Yep. I agree.  

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Thank you for coming in, Travis. This was a real treat for all of us.  

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Cool. No. I appreciate it. I'll be, joining some more.  

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Yeah. I really like Larry's idea there, Travis, because,   you know, if you don't make a claim,   then and then they've made one against you, where does that put you? Is it puts you in harm's way?   So I think I think challenging them like Larry wants to do is   is a good good way to go.  

[03:09:38] Unknown:

Right. I think that's a good start right there. I agree.   And that's probably where I'll, where I will start. So, yeah, I'm gonna talk to her about all this, and maybe I'll get her to call in one of these days too. Just listen in.   Thank you, Larry. Thank you, Murr.   You're welcome. Everybody. Sorry. I'm so bad with names. I'll definitely be getting in contact with some of you guys. Appreciate it.   Alright. Ladies and gentlemen and gentlemen.  

[03:10:05] Unknown:

It's like a family.  

[03:10:09] Unknown:

Good stuff.   Appreciate Ken, hooking me up, you guys.   Alright. Well, I gotta run. Have a great day, everybody. We'll talk to you guys soon.  

[03:10:19] Unknown:

Bye bye.  

[03:10:20] Unknown:

Alright. Bye bye.  

[03:12:14] Unknown:

I have a question about Chitango.   Can someone guide me on how to sign up to Radio Ranch?  

[03:12:25] Unknown:

What was that?  

[03:12:27] Unknown:

It's a tango. Chitango.com.  

[03:12:30] Unknown:

Yeah.  

[03:12:31] Unknown:

How do you sign up to that?  

[03:12:33] Unknown:

Oh,   it'll show you there. It'll just show, you know, sign in, and and you can, you know, it's a free account. And, but if you just  

[03:12:42] Unknown:

oh. Do you spell it?  

[03:12:44] Unknown:

Oh, c h a t a n g o.   But you could go to, like this one is, numeral2radioranch.shatango.com.   And so you can go there on that screen. It'll show down in the corner,   log in, or,   you know. So Okay.   And you can get just, like, a temporary number, but it'll it'll toss you off after a little while if you're not posting.   So  

[03:13:11] Unknown:

Oh, okay. And then it does it does deleting to Radio Ranch has to be there?  

[03:13:18] Unknown:

No. It just numeral two radio ranch dot chatango dot com. That'll bring up the screen, and then you'll see, like, instructions down on the bottom on the side. Oh, okay. To sign up. K.  

[03:13:29] Unknown:

Yeah. It's not having luck on my phone.  

[03:13:32] Unknown:

So Oh, I don't know that. It might be different on a phone. I don't have a phone, but, that's how it is on the web. My I'm not sure how it is on the phone.   It's prob probably not fun on the phone.   It's my guess.  

[03:13:48] Unknown:

Yeah.   Let's see.  

[03:13:53] Unknown:

2.  

[03:14:11] Unknown:

Let's see if it works.   It it it's two   radio ranch dot set chat a n g o dot com. Right?