In this episode of the Radio Ranch 101 series, we delve into the complexities of the War and Emergency Powers Act and the law of Mortmain with Dr. Gene Schroeder and Roger Sayles. The discussion begins with an exploration of the War and Emergency Powers, highlighting the extensive control it grants the President over various aspects of American life, including property, production, and communication. Dr. Schroeder provides a historical perspective, referencing Senate Report 93549 and the actions taken by Franklin Roosevelt during the Great Depression, which expanded these powers significantly.
We examine the implications of these powers, particularly how they have been used to control the economy and the lives of American citizens. The conversation touches on the controversial use of birth certificates as warehouse receipts, tying citizens to national debt, and the notion of voluntary servitude. The discussion also covers the Agricultural Adjustment Act and its role in transferring congressional powers to the executive branch.
As the episode progresses, we explore the concept of Mortmain, the historical laws preventing corporations from owning land, and how these principles have been overlooked in modern governance. The conversation highlights the bureaucratic expansion and the challenges of reversing these entrenched systems. The episode concludes with a discussion on potential solutions, including the issuance of non-secured Treasury notes and the importance of individual action in reclaiming personal sovereignty.
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Welcome to this presentation of an offline recorded discussion of the Warren Emergency Powers Act with doctor Gene Schroeder and Roger Sales of the Radio Ranch. This program was prerecorded and then presented the following day and is being presented here as part of the Radio Ranch 101 series on the War and Emergency Powers Act and the law of Mortmain.
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Well, I'm not sure what who whoever orchestrated this. I don't know if you had a an agenda or an a a a deal in mind we're gonna follow or whatever. I know, Jean, that Joe said the topics that you particularly wanted to cover were Mortmain and the Warren Emergency Powers Act. So why don't we just plunge off on that?
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Okay. Why don't we, well, hell, I imagine everybody's fully aware of the of the, war and emergency powers. I think you guys have been discussed that a lot, you know, in the past, and probably not too much more than I can add to that right now other than what we pretty well already know. But there'll be some things that that probably never did get discussed very much. So let's just do a quick review of those one emergency powers. And I think one of the best ways to describe it is with the senate report 93549 in the very beginning.
It said under the powers, speaking of the emergency and the war powers, the president may seize property, seize and control the means of production, seize, commodities, assign military forces abroad, institute martial law, control all transportation and communications, control the operation of private enterprise, restrict travel, and a in a plethora of particular ways, control the lives of all American citizens. Now does that sound familiar?
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Yep.
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Got it. Is there anything left on there that that probably he couldn't do? Let me read a little bit more. I'm reading here from Constitution Fact OR Fiction. It just happened to be one of them books that I've done. But Yeah. He goes ahead and says that Franklin Roosevelt responded to the economic depression in 1933 by using war and emergency powers intended only for dealing with rebellion and invasion. During his first 100 days in office, and you all, hear all the time now about the first 100 days of these presidents. Well, this is what they're referring referring to, starting on March 9th and running through June, and they called it the 1st 100 days.
And, during the 1st 100 days in office, he seized all gold and silver, took the country off the gold standard, He established a banking system based on the debts of the American people. He expanded the Trading with the Enemy Act to include enemies of the United States, to include the citizens of the United States, including all the American people, established government control over natural resources, the social agenda, welfare, utilities, private financing, industry, labor, and transportation, bailed out the banks, Roosevelt staff abrogated the gold clause in all public contracts, thus usurping the legality of private contracts.
That's important. At the same time, he established control over finances for the prices of homes and inserted into the agriculture adjustment act of clause that shifted the power to coin the money and to regulate the value in a foreign coin, which we all know was in the constitution. But he conveyed or congress conveyed that power from them to the president. In addition, the government, under their new banking act, declared that ownership of all property is in the state. Now that's important because Super. Now the federal government, under this new banking act, which was going to issue new Federal Reserve Banknotes instead of Federal Reserve notes, And these banknotes were to be just secured by all the people, old property, the homes, and everything of the American people.
Plus, it gave the federal congress the authority and the and the government the authority to mortgage the people through this continuation of the national debt Correct. To secure the bank notes. Yep. And so here we sit today, and what's the limit on the amount of government, money that the government can create through creating more more debt. We're we're talking about it tonight. They're up there debating about how much they're gonna increase the the debt limit so they can have all this money.
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There there is no limit.
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There there's no limit. That's that's that's correct. That there is no limit to the amount of money that they can create. Now that begs the question, do they need to tax anybody?
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Oh, of course.
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No. They don't need the tax. They can make all the money they want. They don't need tax money. No. No. The only reason they tax people is is to some degree redistribute the income to the ones that they want.
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Yeah. Jean, let me show you a different perspective on that. Okay? What they're doing, what we found, is they've got this feudal system in place. They flipped everyone into that condition of a citizen federal citizen as a surety for the debt on that important March 9th 33 debt. And what they're doing you said they're mortgaging the people. What they're doing is the birth certificate is acting as a warehouse receipt because they are putting you you're being born into a condition of voluntary servitude. And so they use birth certificate, and they attach that to the bonds.
And the income tax goes to pay the bond holders.
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They're they're collateralized. I don't I don't disagree with that at all. That the birth certificate basically is almost like a title
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that they It's a warehouse receipt.
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Yeah. Or or a warehouse receipt. Same. Yeah. So So, you know, that's that's interesting. So here we sit today, and and we've got first off, on March 9, 1933, they came with that emergency banking relief act, which seized all the gold, ultimately seized the silver, issued the new Federal Reserve Banknotes. And, and from that point, we went from about a half a $1,000,000,000,000 worth of debt to where we're at today. And how big is it today? They're talking on the television here a while ago, 37,000,000,000,000.
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Right. Right. But it's all fraud. And because you're being born out of that condition because of this bankruptcy. And here's the catch, have you found the slavery clauses in the constitution that aren't there? There's 2 slavery clauses. There are 2 slavery clauses in the constitution that aren't written but implied. And the first one is in, it's article 4 or 5 where they say you can't impair the ability to contract. Well, a if you swore yourself in the bond servant, you are voluntarily giving that away in a contract. And the other is in the 13th amendment where it says, neither slavery nor involuntary servitude shall be in a state unless a person has been duly convicted of a crime, yada yada, but they leave out voluntary servitude.
Voluntary servitude is not filled by a mission in the 13th amendment. And now here's the end. Here's the end game. Hey, doctor Gene. Are you a citizen of the United States and a resident?
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You know, that's what they claim. I I've always said I was a citizen of the state of Colorado, but, you know, I guess that's neither here nor there. We can argue about it. Well, it no. Not if you say so. There is no argument. But the other people don't understand this. Win that argument.
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You'd win it every time. Okay? Because everything's got to be voluntary. This one thing we've learned, everything's got to be voluntary. If it's not voluntary, it's tyranny.
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So what they've got to do is So let's say, what are we gonna do about it? Then that's the question is, well, what is the options? Now okay. Let's think about this a minute. If it's voluntary, then we can simply say, you know, this debt that you placed on us is not valid.
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Correct.
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Especially the grandkids because they didn't have a damn thing to say about it voluntary or otherwise. They were born into it. Okay? So let's just say it's not it's not valid. And here's what we're gonna do. We're gonna issue United States Treasury notes that are non secured just like what we got today if that debt's not valid. They're non secured notes. Right. We issue enough non secured notes to pay off all of this fiat debt that we're supposed to have. Yep. And then we let the free market take over. Say now what those non secured notes worth? I don't know. But I guess the free market will rule, and we'll find out.
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What the hell is wrong with that? We've eliminated the debt. It's nothing. You could use the same technique you're talking about here with Lincoln's greenbacks. Okay? And that system will work. Yeah. You you print the the notes, the currency. It's not money. It's currency. You print it and That's right. Not to hear it. Right. You spend it into circulation. And the trick for the thing to work is you always tax out what you spend in, and there's no excess for speculation. And if that would have happened no interest on it. It would have worked. Right. So, anyway, here's what was this is a good news I've got for you tonight.
Now that you understand this voluntary thing, all you have to do is volunteer out. That's what we teach people. I've been doing it for 14 and a half years. There's never been one blowback from the federal government reported to us. Never once. We get passports. We got we got the whole thing. We'll get okay. So, anyway, we got the that problem, it appears to be solved. Go ahead, Joe.
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I wish we could get back to our emergency powers.
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Okay. Sorry. I interrupted. Sorry.
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Oh, not not not a problem. I think we're having a good discussion here, and that and that's important. That's because that is part of the emergency powers. Is that money one of the things that you want? Go ahead. Go.
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But I think it's important to, if you would, explain how they use the Agricultural Adjustment Act to implement all of this through standing in court.
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Yeah. If it's a title aid of the Agricultural Adjustment Act, where it says that congress shall have the power to coin the money, regulate the value thereof, and a foreign coin. Well, section 43 of that Agricultural Adjustment Act says that congress is hereby going to transfer the congressional powers to coin the money, regulate the value thereof, and a foreign coin to the president, and they did. Now that's important, as to how congress then begin to transfer their constitutional powers to the executive. Okay? And that was just the beginning because once the executive had the powers and the congress knew that they could do it, they then began to pass all these, all the acts that it was transferring all these powers. And I got here and marked someplace in my book where it started the list. Here's just some of the things they done on the 1st 100 days. And on March 9th, they done the Emergency Banking Act.
March 20th, they done the Economy Act, which was, to reduce, the government deficit, but they reduced it with new money. The Civil Conservation Act, control of the natural resources, that was on March 31st. On 19th was abandonment of the gold standard and the seizure of all the gold. On May 12th was the emergency relief act, which can gave control of the social agenda and the natural, national welfare programs. On May 12th was the Agricultural Adjustment Act. May 18th was the Tennessee Valley Authority Act, which basically nationalized all the utilities. May 27th was the Securities Exchange Act, which controlled all of private finance.
June 9th was the house joint resolution, for the abrogation of the coal gold clause and all the public and private contracts. That will well, that's what Joe was talking about. The homeowners loan act, which control the financing and the prices of the homes and the bailout of all the banks. The National Industrial Recovery Act, which required every industry to license itself and, for labor then to form the the Labor Relations Act and, to compete with the with the big corporations. The Glass Steagall Act, which divorced commercial and investment banking. The Railroad Coordination Act, which resulted in the naturalization and the transport of all transportation in the end. And it goes on and on, as the, you know, the kinds of powers that we created and gave to the what what is now the bureaucracy.
It's always hundreds of agencies and commissions and bureaus, and we can go on and on, until we got this bloated government that we have today. Yep.
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Jean, didn't they extend the mortgage, to 30 year mortgages in that period too? It seems like before it was the Jimmy Stewart, it's a wonderful life, banking world, and the banks held their own paper, and they never issued a mortgage more than 10 years. I believe they extended it to 30 in that, with this all this going on too.
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You know, and that could be the case. I'd have to go back and reread through OMX to see if it's in there. But I it wouldn't surprise me a bit because I know, with the Reconstruction Finance Corporation, I was trying to remember what what that was, but I think that was unlimited terms.
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Probably.
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And that came in, like, 38, I think. Mhmm. But the but the point being is what all this is boiled down to is we now have this gigantic, bloated bureaucracy. It's not a constitutional republic. It's not a democracy. It's a bureaucracy, and it's made up of the big corporations Yep. Being the government being one of the biggest of the corporations. Yep. It's the deep state. All these bureaucrats and and that and the bureaus and the commissions and the deep state. Yes. And that's what we're dealing with. Right.
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The bureaucrats, It came the first time it came there was some of it in Rome, I believe. But the first time they really took this plan was in the French Revolution. And as they instituted the administrative state after the revolution, they would identify the bureaucrats because they would have burlap on their desk. And burlap is is bureau in French, and that's where it came from.
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Right.
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Right. So
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So that leaves us now down to where we're at. You know, I was just sitting here thinking, well, they they say, okay. We're gonna, create this efficiency in government. Well, number 1, you can't create a pure, an efficient bureaucracy. They're, you know, they're diabetically opposed to each other. But, nonetheless, you know, what do you you here here, we're gonna have this, elimination of this bureaucracy. So I was just sitting here a while ago thinking, well, if we eliminated a 1000 bureaucrats a day, That'd be 367,000 bureaucrats a year.
10 years from now, if we kept doing that, we wouldn't even make a dent in the number of bureaucrats we got. There's over 600 of those agencies. Yeah. So here's the the thing. If we're gonna fix this thing, the all all we can do is terminate the act of March 9, 1933. Terminate the emergency, and 99% of the bureaus and the bureaucrats will go away. They have no authority.
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Question. Jane, do you still contend that that emergency is in effect to this day?
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Yeah. Look around, Joe. You don't have to ask me the question. Just look. Yes. Absolutely, it's in effect.
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Because that that was discussed earlier in the day about which was the longest lasting emergency.
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Yes. Right? I don't know of 1 because we have Federal Reserve notes or Federal Reserve Bank notes. What have you got? Yeah. No. We got notes. You know, that's all you need to know. And you can read right in the act itself that this this will terminate when the president terminates it. Never happened.
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Now the one original one in 1917 was terminated when the war was stopped. Right? But this one in 33
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But they but they but they never changed it. Whenever they, terminated the, World War 2 or, yeah, the World War 1 one, they left that trading with the enemy air clogs in there. And then that's the one they've relied on for the for the March 9th one.
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Right. That's where they except for section 5 b. Section 5 b. Right. Except for section that's it. Well, you know, you heard you heard Trump about a year ago when they were doing all these malicious prosecutions on him, and he made he said Sure. They're trying to charge me with some 1917 legislation. That's what it was. Right?
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What do you think that is that these people that surround him and him and he himself, do they have a clue what we're dealing with here, you think?
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Joe. I I mean, Jean, I wish I knew. We our stuff at least come we have a pilot student that flies big wigs around out of Georgia, and he says that it is being discussed at Mar a Lago. He didn't tell me if it was the security guards, the groundskeepers, the chefs, who was discussing it. But the IR stuff is starting to percolate around a little bit. So I I don't know the extent. I try not to get my hopes up because they've been dashed so many times previously. And just take one step in front of the other and wait for the good lord to open the door where we can get a big platform to a large audience. If I I think we're, we got a very firm foundation.
I've been teaching this for 14 and a half years. I don't charge anybody. I give it away and, have that radio show to help answer questions because I know how complex it is. And, and we're making progress, although it's excruciatingly slow and much slower than I would have thought or like. But I know that I'd rather be a a firm foundation organization than a flash in the pan. Our message is very powerful and it makes what it does, Jean, instead of having to get rid of the bureaucrats with Trump, we do it ourselves. Once you do this, none of them have any authority or or jurisdiction over you except for 2 constitutional taxes in in the IRS code. And that's the only, authority from any agency that they have on you. And, we've had proof after proof of it with students and situations. But, anyway, that's kind of a synopsis.
And and I because what we're doing is what you tried to do on a group effort, we're doing on an individual effort. It's kind of the dialectic of it in a in a sense. Right. But they recognize it, man. I'm telling you, they recognize Well, there's a couple more here that I that I wanted to bring up specifically because I think Let's do that. That they're really important.
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And the one of them, here's this reciprocal trade agreement act of, June 12, 1934.
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Okay.
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Constitution says Congress shall have the power to regulate commerce among the several states and with the foreign nations. Here, congress delegated their power, to form these trade agreements. They transferred that over to the president in this recreat in Reciprocal Trade Agreements Act. And so here we see today, we're sitting here talking about tariffs and, whether we're gonna put them on China or what we're gonna do. Well, we've been saying this for 50 all my life, and we just keep giving our money away. And we run these trade deficits to the 1,000,000,000 of dollars a month. Yep. And here's and here and here's the problem.
Get another one of those damned emergency acts that that transferred over congressional power over to the over to the bureaucracy and over to the big corporations, and they're not gonna sit there and do something to hurt their sales.
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No. No. And don't forget, these are the merchants of the earth. Okay? They're masters That's it. At this trade thing. And, basically, you're talking about how Hitler got around them was winning on an economic theory where they basically bartered, and that's when they fired the shot heard around the world when they declared that bankruptcy on Germany. That was really the first shot of World War 2 in my mind. So, yeah, this is a age old problem. It's they they get control of it, and they totally not only control it, but enrich themselves unbelievably in the process.
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That's right. And we deal and we're dealing with it, tonight, basically. Yep. Or, you know, every day. So it's Right. So it you say, well, does it still exist today? Well, does it or doesn't it? Of course. Yeah. There's no there's no question. None whatsoever. And so Well, see that's one I was gonna
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Yeah. No. Go ahead, please. No. No. No. Please. I'll call back online. No. I was just gonna say While we're talking about this, go ahead and say it. I was just gonna say that's what our deal does is it here, when you file it's a very simple affidavit. Okay? It's just one paragraph was stating that you're national, and the second is you show them in the affidavit how how you're getting out of their tax system. So it totally unobligates you to that $37,000,000,000,000 worth of debt, and they can't say a word about it. The whole thing's on fraud. And they this is so derogatory to them because two things happen the minute you put it in the mail.
You get your freedom, and they get totally exposed because they can't rebut it. They can't deny it, and that means the only thing they can do is stand mute, and that means they convict themselves. And as this been happening for 14 and a half years, okay, and they recognize it.
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Yep. And dead is dead is not income.
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No.
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No. No. No. It just They they struggle with that too.
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Oh, yeah. Well, we said you know, remember the show me the law, IRS guys? Show me the law. They put that big ad in the New York Times $50,000 reward. I'll show I can show you the law and show you how it operates. And that's what's in that affidavit, in the second paragraph. It's, hidden behind the term right at the first of the book down there in the regulations called nonresident alien. They turned it right there, nonresident to the residency of the 14th amendment, and as a Colorado State citizen, you're alien from the federal government. That's what it is, and they recognize it. K?
So, I I'm I'm I don't know if I sent you any of our stuff or not, but I would like to send you just one videotape that I think will do the job of explaining what we do, a, and how they've done this. Get it.
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What they've done? My dad, Daryl Croeter. I don't know if you ever met my dad or not. Hi. But my dad was the leader of of of this movement.
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Is that right?
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Oh, cool. Oh, yes. Cool. For years years.
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I will I'll through Joe or whatever, I don't think I've got your email address, but I get I'm sure I can get it. And I'll drop you that. And what it does at the first that's so powerful is it shows you how they've done it. And then I show you what they've done. Okay? And this is what they've done it. Alice in Wonderland. They go in Pavlovianly and take and, puts up opposite definitions of keywords and they Pavlovianly install them in your subconscious mind. Now your subconscious takes over for your conscious. The biblical part of this is James 1 8 where it says a double minded man is uncertain in all of his ways. That's what they've done. They've made us double minded.
So the remedy k. Is to simply identify those words and go in and change the definition to the real definition, then your subconscious and your conscious are working together. It's totally empowering like God meant you to be, And it every time you do that with a word, you get a slice of reality back.
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And that's good.
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Okay. So I'll make sure we get you that, that interview because it's one of the better ones I've done, I think, over all these years. And, I wanted to also with that mortgage question about extending the 30 year mortgages. The other thing you wanted to get into was Mort, Maine. And, when we mentioned it today, Mark, Mark is with us tonight. I said, I've never even heard that word before. Well, that's the root word of mortgage. Haven't. You know? That's right. That's the root word of mortgage.
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Yeah. That's, you know, that's a mortgage. That's the death pledge.
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Yes. It is. So
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yeah. Well, there's no doubt. Well, anyway, I was just, that's one of the other things I was gonna bring up here was, executive order number 6814. No. That was not the right one. Which one am I looking at here? I was gonna pull this other one up if I can find it. But, anyway, I can tell you what it says. It it deals with the, all the national national resources. And, here it is. It's executive order number 7065, June 1, 1935. Mhmm. And it created the National Resource Board, which took control of all the public lands that had not been disposed of. Remember in the constitution, it says that Congress shall have the power to dispose of the public lands.
Mhmm. Mhmm. Nowhere did it give give them the authority to own public lands. They could have forged magazines, arsenals, and other needful buildings, but they could not go out and own property. Okay? That was in violation of the Mortmain. The Mortmain is the dead hand laws, and what it says is that corporations aren't creations of God. Corporations are the creations of man's and government. Therefore, because a corporation is not alive, it can't own property. Only the living can own property. So here we sit with this corporation now. And you say, well, does it own land? Only about 70% of the western land is claims it owns now, didn't it?
Yes. That began in 1935 with the National Resources Act when they took control of all the natural resources. Mhmm. And then went on and on and on, accumulating all all all the properties they've got. Yes. And they're in direct violation of the Mortmain. The Mortmain, like I said, is the dead hand law, like the mortgage. That's the death pledge. The amortization, the amortization, to take it out of the mort. You got those words and and back our ancestors understood that so well. That's the reason we had the laws because they dealt with it not only to the kings for, you know, for centuries, but also then the church.
And so if you look it up in the dictionary, it'll say corporations, you know, ecclesiastical, or temporal. It makes no difference. Uh-huh. They're in violation of the fundamental laws of of forever.
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I I've never heard anybody bring this up before. It's really interesting. Are you familiar with an act that they passed about a month? It was in April, I think, and it was s r, senate resolution 92 or 192. I think it's just 92. Are you familiar with that where they stated that they owned all your property? Think so.
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Well, if if I I'm doing that for a member. Stated what? S r s r.
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I believe it's 92. K? Okay. And and there's a statement there that says that they have taken over all the property in the US, yada yada yada, and that includes we us, the people too, and they don't state that, but it does. And then at the end of that paragraph, there's this phrase that says, except by operation of law. Now, the reason that catches my eye is because when we instruct people to apply for passports, occasionally, not often, been doing it about 10 years occasionally, someone will get a bluff letter is what I call them. There's like they're seeing what you know, and they've they're real slick about it. It has different bodies, but every one of them has the same first paragraph.
And it says, I'm paraphrasing here, it appears by what you've submitted that you are a citizen of the United States. And then it quotes the 14th amendment, all persons born yada yada yada. And and then it goes, this cannot be waived unilaterally, yada yada yada, except by operation of law. And so the first time I ever saw that years ago, I saw that, and it triggered because that other one that I'd seen years ago. And so all we do is contest them and go something to the effect of, is Vatel's law of nations lawful enough for you? Where it says every man has the right of personal political self determination or another approach, and this is good. It says the the 14th amendment you quote says and subject to the jurisdiction thereof. Yeah. Yeah. It does not say it does not say are subject to the jurisdiction thereof, and I'm not subject to it. And they always recognize it, and they always get their documents that they were trying to see how much they knew. So that little there's your difference right there is to get it on the lawful side.
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Right. And, you know, so, anyway, that's, you know, most people never even heard or thought about the laws of Mortmain. Our our forefather, Jefferson, wrote about it quite extensively and some of the others. But, but the point being is that, you know, a corporation, it's it's a combination. It's a combination of of money. For people with money, pool their money together into a big gang. And Correct. By doing that, they gain advantage. And, then they get special regulations and and the you know, everything. It become like me, you know, going up against, an army, with a single shot and thinking that I can compete with them. Well, you know, I can do that. Well, it's the same same way with the labor unions. They were given the right to unionize so that they could, in some degree, compete against the big combinations of capital.
Well, here we see it. They're all illegal. They're all unconstitutional, and they're unlawful. Well, they all infiltrate them. Interrogation of individual rights.
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Yes. And they all infiltrate them and turn them against us or use them however they wanna use them against us.
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Well, they just turn into the bureaucracy. I mean, they're just they just become a part of it, the ruling elites. I mean, Sanders and Neil, you can listen to these politicians and a lot of them talk about it, but I don't think they know what the hell they're talking about.
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Very few do, if any. That's for sure. Yeah. Very few. Yeah. But I'm I'm really glad you wanted to talk about this Mortmain thing. I've never even thought into that that that deep, but, boy, it makes perfect sense.
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And Well, go to Blackhawk. Just look it up. Mortmain, m o r t m e I n.
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Oh, I'm just saying about the corporations not being a not being but legal persons able to own land. And, man, that's a really valid point. I've never heard anybody bring it up. Absolutely.
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Yeah. I mean, yeah. And that's been a valid point for for centuries and centuries. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. I mean, we're we're talking almost from the from, you know, the very beginning.
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Right. I don't think that, if I remember John right, corporate personhood was granted in a case called Brown versus International Shoe, and it seems to me it was in 1800.
[00:35:49] Unknown:
The Santa Santa Clara cases, Back in California, the 9th Circuit, ruled that a corporation, is a person.
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Uh-huh. Well, that's a big part. You know what's coming up is all this discussion on the 14th amendment is is gonna get pretty interesting here if Trump gets in and they start bringing that up and it's already being brought up in certain circles. And that's where this is right in the wheelhouse. They cannot get rid of birthright citizenship or else they lose the basis of the monetary system. Because those people being born as babies and extended their collateral into attaching it to the bonds remember, bond is the root word of bondage. And so if those people aren't citizens of property, they can't do that with them. They'll never let them take that away.
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No. And they and they can't place them in the mortise because they're born anyway. That I mean, the you know, what's the that noise would would would become, you know, widespread. That's that's a loser.
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Well, let me show you how they're doing that. When they put everybody in initially in March 9th 33, hidden under this through this birthright citizenship is the feudal system, because that's the only system in history the planet that had that aspect of assigning a political status on where you're born. So whoever got stuck into that in 33, all their generations have been born into the condition. It's but it's a silent contract that runs generationally. But you because it's voluntary, even though it might have been 10 generations ago, you can still volunteer out at any time. That's what this what makes this affidavit so effective in the fact they can't do anything about it. And and those two questions, when you turn 18 and you start getting those questions in all your financial and and anything important you do, are you a citizen of the United States? Are you a resident?
And I remember back when I was younger before I understood this, I was almost scared not to answer yes. And then so they get you to answer yes. You're conditioned to do it, and then you sign something, which means you're agreeing to the contract that you've been born into. So all we're doing is saying, no. We're out of that. We, we we're out of that. We're not what you we've told you we were. It's fraud, and you we're not giving you the consent to govern us. Yeah, Joe.
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Could could we please get back to
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to my Well in Morp Main?
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Well, I don't I think okay. Jay, you got any more on that?
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On Morp Main or give me your powers? Right on the Morp Main. Give me give me your thoughts on it, Joe.
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Yeah, buddy.
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Well, not that I know you've thought a lot about it. I have thought a lot about it, and you gave me a tape a cassette tape on it years years ago, and be darned if I can find it. And, I didn't make a good enough study of it when I had the opportunity with that tape. I wish I could find it. But,
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you know, let me do some hunting around. Maybe I can find one of the tape someplace or find somebody that's got one.
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Well, if you could. And, the other thing too that I would might interject here, Jean, is, I never did had, Lisa's phone number or their home phone number. All I had was Ed's cell number. And, anyway, I hated that I didn't wasn't aware that he passed, but I do know that he had a number of recordings. And, Paul Beiner is very good about being able to copy that material and remaster it. And it would sure be nice if you could think of a way that we could get a hold of those for Paul to to remaster and make them available to more people. Sure.
And, you know, it's just like he, he did this for an emergency power video that he did, and he did a really, really nice job on it. And, there that's you've been exposed to a lot of people more than you know, through that being remastered and put on this website. Right. So if we could get some of those tapes and stuff that Eddie had, maybe we could
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see Lisa's got them, and I'm sure she'll she'll pass them on to us. I'll have to get ahold of her. I'll get you her phone number too, and we'll make arrangements to get all that done. That that would be nice, Jane.
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Because, you know, the work the work that you folks did,
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move Ed was a tremendous part of that too. He much forward. Moved it forward a whole bunch,
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and it's much appreciated. But, you know, I'm not schooled enough in Mark Maine to be able to talk about it, but I've know I've heard you speak on it before, and that's the reason that I brought it up that, I know enough to be dangerous
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Mhmm. We'll talk about that. I'd love to Yeah. I'd love to hear, and then more
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more background. Go ahead, g.
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But I'm saying that, you know, and it's but, basically, I mean, if you just just stop and think about it a minute, it it's just common sense. I mean, there is no way that a government created culmination of power, can, cannot be, in violation of the individual rights. I mean, the individual can't compete against that, and, it never could. But you're talking about,
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corporations, owning property and being persons. And wasn't there a supreme court ruling that kind of flew in everybody's face here within the last few years. Mark, you may remember it.
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Yeah. It had to do with, funding elections. And so these corporations were wanting to to donate big money to various, campaigns, political campaigns. And people were fighting that, and it went up to the Supreme Court. I don't recall the the actual case name, but that's where the the Supreme Court ruled that a corporation is a person.
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Right. Can give money to political campaigns just like they were in person. Right? And and we know that can't you know, obviously, that that can't be right.
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Well, it can't be because a personhood, a corporation lives lives and dies at the behest
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of person. The state.
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The state. Thank you. But an individual lives or dies by his creator.
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That's it. And this and the the corporation is a I mean, it's a it's a privilege, created by the state. It doesn't talk. It doesn't walk. It, can't procreate. The only it's it's a dead entity. And, once you take the land and put it into that dead entity, well, hell, I mean, that's when the kings and the church and all, you know, at different times in history controlled everything.
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Yep. Yep.
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Back to the feudal system.
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Yep. Yep. Back to the feudal system. Absolutely right.
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Yeah. Well, we're born into it, and it's just disguise. I mean, you can go back to, oh, what was the guy's name that wrote tragedy and hope? Bill Clinton's favorite professor at Georgetown
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Quigley.
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Thank you. Quigley. And he you read his book, there's a paragraph or a little bit in there. It says, the world's financial leaders met on a regular basis in secret. So the and they formed the financial system of the globe in a feudalist fashion. Well, you can't have a feudal financial system without serves.
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That's it. Yep.
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Especially when it's based on And and property. Yep. And Well, they are property. Well, they are property. They are. You know? They are part of the property. You're right. Yep. And that, you know, it's, it's, Jean, it's so good to talk to you and hear you. I I was, of course, in the early in the movement a couple of years when your original thing came out, and it was a smash hit around our circles. But, you know, there just weren't enough people awake back then. I mean, even now, we might not have enough,
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but we got more. Well, that's true. You know? But, you know, you never know. Things change. And, sometimes they change pretty fast, so you never know what the future is gonna bring. You we just don't know yet.
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I saw Eustace Mullins' interview when he was still alive. God bless him. And he said, well, god was merciful on us, and he gave us the Internet.
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Boy, there'd never been a true a truer statement than that right there. That that's it. That's it. Because now they they really do have a hard time controlling our communications. Yeah. They can. They do a lot. No. But but it's but it's a tough one now. No. It's very difficult.
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Could I ask Joe if anybody's got any questions for doctor Gene here, or if he wants to expand on the main topics anymore, but at least open it up if anybody's got a question for him while we got him.
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I do have a question that I'd like for him to address, and that is how Roosevelt went about stacking the court, which, you know, we've had runs on that here the last couple of years trying to make that happen. Yeah. They're trying to do it again. And that could even happen before 20th January.
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If we're all right. Roosevelt tried to step to court, but he'd never could get it done. That he, for 2 years, they worked, but they never could get enough support to do it. But it didn't matter because, at the end of that 2 years, a couple of those, Supreme Court justices changed their position. And they turned around and ruled all those things that ruled unconstitutional, like the, seizure of the gold, the, American agriculture, you know, the AAA Act, the, National Industrial Recovery Act. They turned around and overturned all that and and verified it. I think that was in 1930 early 35 when they done those.
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In other words, the bankers got to them. But they certainly
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absolutely got to them with some money. I mean, it's obvious. So they've tried it one other time, and it wasn't successful.
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Are you Hugo Black came up on the show the other day recently. Are are you familiar with his background? He was one of those background? He was one of those 3 that they stuck on there. I think he was from Tennessee and he was a a grand dragon of the Ku Klux Klan. And and he was one of those 3 and he want his decision that is, I guess, probably the most memorable is lifting Jefferson's statement about the separation of church and state and inserting it into one of his opinions. And so now it's gospel when it was totally it came from a different source, you know. All this malarkey that's gone on.
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Well, you know, it's, the way they can turn meanings and words and and, you know, yeah. I mean, it's just phenomenal what's happened in the last 50, 70 years in this country.
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You said about your father. I'd like to ask you if I could. You said he started the, the the ag movement that y'all are talking about or just got what year did he was he involved in this? That must have been the fifties?
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Yeah. Well, he he he's starting in the sixties. Yeah. And, so he was, you know, certainly a part of the citizenship deal and, you know, federal citizenship versus the state citizenship and the Oh, great. And all of that. And, so but he was also part of the American Ag Movement, you know, which was, you know, just he was just one of us, but, he sure did fight this IRS, and they never collected a penny from him either.
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Fantastic. Well, God rest his soul, and I hope he's, smiling down on you, Jean, for all of your contributions, following up on what you started. And, you know, the key to this whole thing that I've been able to find, and I had a pretty sharp other teacher too. It wasn't just John Benson. It's this guy that coached Roger Staub. He stumbled onto this information with John, and he was the one that did all this, that made it happen, really. And, this is what Glenn says. He said, if you don't know that you're dealing with the feudal system, you'll never do anything but shadow box with it. And I've totally found that to be true.
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I I agree.
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And when you do know what it is, this is well, I've I've I've been tricked into volunteering in. I'll just volunteer out. It's my it's my choice. Otherwise, they're open tyrants, and we'll just go on about our lives. And and what it turns out to appear to be is that they're scared to death of this because it totally strips them of their powers and exposes them simultaneously. And so they wouldn't come after anybody even if they could, I don't believe, because they don't want the this whole information in the spotlight anywhere. So we've really kinda got super kryptonite for super parasites, what we call them, because they're really the old Pharisees that Jesus fought. They do the same crap, the same exact way, just with a lot of modern technology and much more sophistication.
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Question.
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Please.
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Doctor Jean? Doctor Jean? Yes. Is is there a what what would you think would be the fastest political solution with doing away with the trading of the, enemy act?
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I think it would be a total worldwide collapse. Personally, I think I think that's what we'd have. Oh. I mean, you just eliminate, you know, hell, you just eliminate everything that people, you you know, anymore in the modern day lives off of.
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Right. How about Babylon, oh Babylon at Babylon, oh Babylon, the great has fallen in an hour like that, Mark?
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I think Yeah. So this I think about magnitude.
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And So doctor jean, you're saying there's not a there's not a a solution for all this licensing? I mean, when I first started with Farmers
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I When I think that is the solution.
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You know? Because I When you first learned That blew my mind when I learned that farmers had to have a permit or a license to raise cotton and to raise peanuts. And I was like, are you kidding me? You're telling me if I had a 100 acres out here, I couldn't go plant some some cotton on it and then go sell it without a permit? That's insanity to me.
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Yeah. It I I know. But, you know, but I I mean, that was it wasn't just agriculture. I mean, it was, just like any in industry. They had to go get a license to to be able to produce anything.
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Yeah. It's insane. Still do.
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So, guys, I don't know. But I think, you know, the only way to cure it is just cure it. Eliminate the system we got, and and we'll start over, good or bad, and, and somehow we'll survive it.
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Well, with 30
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trillion? With 36 trillion and growing, I I don't know how, you know, far off we're gonna be from that. They can't sustain the debt.
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Even even if you did pay it, all the money goes away because that is the money. So, if you paid all the debt off, there'd be absolutely no money, and so we're gonna collapse anyway. So I think, you know, I don't know when or I don't know how, but, at some point, I think this thing will have to go through a major collapse.
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Well, you know, there's there's a real interesting idea being floated. I can't remember the guy's name. I'm not into cryptos anymore of any at any level. I used to be a couple years ago. But what he's saying is Trump's favorable favorable to Bitcoin now. You go out, and they've got they're the largest holders in the world of Bitcoins, the United States government. All the ones they've seized and everything. They go by 25% of the blockchain, and with the Bitcoins that are produced, they start paying off the national debt through the bonds and start paying the bonds off. And, and they liquidate it that way. That's looks like that might work. Don't know. Replace the bonds with Bitcoins. Right?
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Right. Well, that'd be another I mean, that'd be another way of doing it whether we do it through Bitcoins or or whatever just to pay the damn debt off. You know? Yep.
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Yep. Economist Martin Armstrong said that, if they would you could pay it off in 8 years if they would just start issuing US notes. And every time money was owed, then we just send US notes and and then start and start canceling or destroying the federal notes.
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Right. That's right. Federal Reserve notes. Just pay it off and and do away with them. And Yeah. In 8 years. No. I I agree. That's that's the only option I can see that we might get out of this thing with some semblance of a soft landing. I you know, that's all I can think of.
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Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. Well, we're gonna see some real interesting immediate future for all of us. If we can get Trump inaugurated on 20th. This whole, drone thing may be a continuity of government's build up to where they're gonna try and declare the aliens the enemy and because that shifts automatically to one of the army commands, and they take over the whole country out of the out of, NORAD, out there where you are, doctor Gene.
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Yep.
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That's what they're talking about. So I don't know. Maybe. So just hang on the edge of your seat every day, and, be very nimble. Be be very flexible and agile.
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That's all we need. Need. And, have a few essentials put away if you can. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Alright, guys. Well, anyway, I won't keep any longer. So, what we do everybody think about this thing, and then we'll schedule another one here And Gene, that's just be so. And That'd be fantastic. We will talk about it again. Kinda see how this thing's progressing after he gets inaugurated.
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Yes. If you can find some of those stakes on. Go ahead, Paul. Go ahead, Paul. I think you're trying to say something.
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Yeah. Excuse me. I've got a question for Gene. Do you have, do you have a DVD player?
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I don't DVD player on your TV set? I I I could probably find one someplace.
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VCR.
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Get you one. We can get you a DVD player. No problem.
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Oh, yeah. I'll find one someplace.
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Okay. All I need is an address. I All I need is an address. I'll send you one. Yeah. I'll go, Joe. We'll get one from Joe. No problem. Oh, okay.
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Joe Joe earlier suggested that, that we take a copy of the remastered war and emergency powers presentation and write that to a DVD and send it off to you.
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So Oh, yeah. So
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and I'm I'm happy to do that.
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Doctor Gene, this is this is Mark in Oklahoma City, and I, got exposed to Dan Meder in in, Ponca City and worked for him for a little bit, back in 1999, and then I went to work for him in 2001. I watched your, 1994 presentation on the, emergency powers act and I really wanna thank you for doing that. You did it in such a great fashion. It's easy to understand and it's mind blowing When you start laying out the law in front of people, it's just really a shock. Yep. So thank you for doing that.
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Yep. And it was a shock to me too as we began to study through it. And once we Oh, yeah. Hell, we knew what we were we knew what we'd find before we ever went and looked at these laws. Right. And we knew what they were gonna say. And so that pretty well indicated we was on the right track.
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Right. Right. Yep. That was really good news. Them. I really appreciated it.
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I commend you and the whole research team. Joe says a number of them aren't with us anymore, and that's too bad because they may see all of their work product stuff, go through a resurrection of sorts. We I almost insist on all of our new students. Go watch that as part of their early learning experience because you're the bedrock of what we do. What you came out with at Show and Prove is the bedrock of what I take them to the next step with, and I sure do appreciate everything and and everything you've done for the country, man. And it's a pleasure that you're still with us and that we can have this conversation.
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Let's do it again, after the inauguration, and, we'll see what we're progressing along and see what new thoughts we have.
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Okay. Fantastic, Jean. Well, just a pleasure. I can't express it enough. And, thank you so much, and it was a pleasure to talk to you again. Hear it right from the the old mouth of the guy that was involved in it. So thank you so much. Guys, and let's,
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go from there. We'll we'll meet again here in a few days, and we'll see see what's changing if anything. So okay.
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Got it right, buddy. Have a good evening. Okay. You take care of yourself, doctor Gene. Okay?
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K. You got you guys too. See you. Okay. Thank you. Take care, doctor Gene. It's been a pleasure.
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Alright, boy. That was a really nice conversation, Joe. Thank you so much for setting that up.
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You're most welcome.
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What a just a charming gentleman.
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What's interesting is a lot of it lines up with our stuff and vice versa. Perfect. Amazing.
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It just we take an individual accent. At the end, he takes a group accent. And we chip away at it one little bite at a time. We'll get there, folks. We'll get there. And we get enough people, they they cannot say no. So just one step at a time, one day at a time.
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Yep.
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Alright. Well, thanks everybody for participating. Mark, I'm glad you were involved in that. And, I'll see y'all tomorrow. We'll play it and talk about it. Okay?
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Alright. Good chance I might not be there, tomorrow. Probably be, Saturday before I'm back on.
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Okay, buddy. Well, you take care and and, with what you're doing. I know you got heavy responsibilities.
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And all these emails that people keep sending.
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Oh god. I'm sorry, man. I didn't believe that you know so much more about it than me, and I'm setting you up some maybe potential, you know, clients too. So
[01:00:33] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. Well, it's okay. I it's, interesting. We get people, then I spent so much time helping this guy out. And then finally you know, I'm I'm just assuming because he's talking about I did this and I, you know, file my affidavit and and I'm like, okay. Okay. So I'm thinking he's using your materials. Come to find out he's using David Strait's materials, American State National. And I looked at his stuff. He sent me a copy of his w four that his employer's throwing a fit over and every right to throw a fit over. And I'm like, oh my gosh, and then I said go get your tax transcript This tax transcript showed all of his wages Had listed him as a contract labor, but at the top it said he was an employee. So that was all messed up. Oh, no, no, no why they put it that way other than to So I said, oh, oh I I said when I found out he'd gone through David straight. I said normally right here, I'd cut it off and tell you to go back to them. But I said, but I don't want you to blindly walk into a buzz saw.
Got it right. And then I said, here's what you need to do. You need to reboot this. If you if you like working with your employer, then, you know, tell them that you sought counsel and, that you made some mistakes and, submit them a new 2025 w four and the one for estate. And, he came back today and thanked me for that and even wrote him a little short cover letter, you know explaining the situation and, so my goodness I I my new policy is, if you said you've done anything, you need to send me copies of it because I wasted so many emails going back and forth answering little questions only to find out he isn't even on the same page.
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Yeah. Your first question is who have you studied under?
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He's not even in the same book. No.
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Hey. I feel so sorry for those people. They muddy the water so much for us and others. It's a it's a shame.
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He profusely thanked me. You know? Because thank you for let let me just walk into a buzz saw. You know? Because that's what it would have done. He would have not only been in trouble with his employer, he would have had the IRS breathing down his back pretty soon. So now he's got a chance to correct everything.
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Oh, good. God bless you. God bless you. Well, we're making progress, folks. We're growing. I'm real pleased. I'm I'm pleased with the way the show's going and the format. I'm pleased with having Mark and Paul on board and some of the things that seem to be coming together for us, and it's just, it's good feedback after all these years. It was a lot of years with not a lot of good feedback, quite frankly. Some good shows, though. Yep. Yeah. Lord. Okay. Well, I'm gonna go, go get some dinner, and it was great to get with you guys tonight. And market with the exception of you. I guess I'll see you the others tomorrow.
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Yep. See you Saturday. Okay, buddy. Thank you. Good night.
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Alright.
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Thank you, Mark. Everyone. You, Raj. You're welcome. My pleasure. Thanks to everybody.
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Forward moving and focused on freedom. You're listening to the Global Voice Radio Network.
Welcome to this presentation of an offline recorded discussion of the Warren Emergency Powers Act with doctor Gene Schroeder and Roger Sales of the Radio Ranch. This program was prerecorded and then presented the following day and is being presented here as part of the Radio Ranch 101 series on the War and Emergency Powers Act and the law of Mortmain.
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Well, I'm not sure what who whoever orchestrated this. I don't know if you had a an agenda or an a a a deal in mind we're gonna follow or whatever. I know, Jean, that Joe said the topics that you particularly wanted to cover were Mortmain and the Warren Emergency Powers Act. So why don't we just plunge off on that?
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Okay. Why don't we, well, hell, I imagine everybody's fully aware of the of the, war and emergency powers. I think you guys have been discussed that a lot, you know, in the past, and probably not too much more than I can add to that right now other than what we pretty well already know. But there'll be some things that that probably never did get discussed very much. So let's just do a quick review of those one emergency powers. And I think one of the best ways to describe it is with the senate report 93549 in the very beginning.
It said under the powers, speaking of the emergency and the war powers, the president may seize property, seize and control the means of production, seize, commodities, assign military forces abroad, institute martial law, control all transportation and communications, control the operation of private enterprise, restrict travel, and a in a plethora of particular ways, control the lives of all American citizens. Now does that sound familiar?
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Yep.
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Got it. Is there anything left on there that that probably he couldn't do? Let me read a little bit more. I'm reading here from Constitution Fact OR Fiction. It just happened to be one of them books that I've done. But Yeah. He goes ahead and says that Franklin Roosevelt responded to the economic depression in 1933 by using war and emergency powers intended only for dealing with rebellion and invasion. During his first 100 days in office, and you all, hear all the time now about the first 100 days of these presidents. Well, this is what they're referring referring to, starting on March 9th and running through June, and they called it the 1st 100 days.
And, during the 1st 100 days in office, he seized all gold and silver, took the country off the gold standard, He established a banking system based on the debts of the American people. He expanded the Trading with the Enemy Act to include enemies of the United States, to include the citizens of the United States, including all the American people, established government control over natural resources, the social agenda, welfare, utilities, private financing, industry, labor, and transportation, bailed out the banks, Roosevelt staff abrogated the gold clause in all public contracts, thus usurping the legality of private contracts.
That's important. At the same time, he established control over finances for the prices of homes and inserted into the agriculture adjustment act of clause that shifted the power to coin the money and to regulate the value in a foreign coin, which we all know was in the constitution. But he conveyed or congress conveyed that power from them to the president. In addition, the government, under their new banking act, declared that ownership of all property is in the state. Now that's important because Super. Now the federal government, under this new banking act, which was going to issue new Federal Reserve Banknotes instead of Federal Reserve notes, And these banknotes were to be just secured by all the people, old property, the homes, and everything of the American people.
Plus, it gave the federal congress the authority and the and the government the authority to mortgage the people through this continuation of the national debt Correct. To secure the bank notes. Yep. And so here we sit today, and what's the limit on the amount of government, money that the government can create through creating more more debt. We're we're talking about it tonight. They're up there debating about how much they're gonna increase the the debt limit so they can have all this money.
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There there is no limit.
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There there's no limit. That's that's that's correct. That there is no limit to the amount of money that they can create. Now that begs the question, do they need to tax anybody?
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Oh, of course.
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No. They don't need the tax. They can make all the money they want. They don't need tax money. No. No. The only reason they tax people is is to some degree redistribute the income to the ones that they want.
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Yeah. Jean, let me show you a different perspective on that. Okay? What they're doing, what we found, is they've got this feudal system in place. They flipped everyone into that condition of a citizen federal citizen as a surety for the debt on that important March 9th 33 debt. And what they're doing you said they're mortgaging the people. What they're doing is the birth certificate is acting as a warehouse receipt because they are putting you you're being born into a condition of voluntary servitude. And so they use birth certificate, and they attach that to the bonds.
And the income tax goes to pay the bond holders.
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They're they're collateralized. I don't I don't disagree with that at all. That the birth certificate basically is almost like a title
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that they It's a warehouse receipt.
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Yeah. Or or a warehouse receipt. Same. Yeah. So So, you know, that's that's interesting. So here we sit today, and and we've got first off, on March 9, 1933, they came with that emergency banking relief act, which seized all the gold, ultimately seized the silver, issued the new Federal Reserve Banknotes. And, and from that point, we went from about a half a $1,000,000,000,000 worth of debt to where we're at today. And how big is it today? They're talking on the television here a while ago, 37,000,000,000,000.
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Right. Right. But it's all fraud. And because you're being born out of that condition because of this bankruptcy. And here's the catch, have you found the slavery clauses in the constitution that aren't there? There's 2 slavery clauses. There are 2 slavery clauses in the constitution that aren't written but implied. And the first one is in, it's article 4 or 5 where they say you can't impair the ability to contract. Well, a if you swore yourself in the bond servant, you are voluntarily giving that away in a contract. And the other is in the 13th amendment where it says, neither slavery nor involuntary servitude shall be in a state unless a person has been duly convicted of a crime, yada yada, but they leave out voluntary servitude.
Voluntary servitude is not filled by a mission in the 13th amendment. And now here's the end. Here's the end game. Hey, doctor Gene. Are you a citizen of the United States and a resident?
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You know, that's what they claim. I I've always said I was a citizen of the state of Colorado, but, you know, I guess that's neither here nor there. We can argue about it. Well, it no. Not if you say so. There is no argument. But the other people don't understand this. Win that argument.
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You'd win it every time. Okay? Because everything's got to be voluntary. This one thing we've learned, everything's got to be voluntary. If it's not voluntary, it's tyranny.
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So what they've got to do is So let's say, what are we gonna do about it? Then that's the question is, well, what is the options? Now okay. Let's think about this a minute. If it's voluntary, then we can simply say, you know, this debt that you placed on us is not valid.
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Correct.
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Especially the grandkids because they didn't have a damn thing to say about it voluntary or otherwise. They were born into it. Okay? So let's just say it's not it's not valid. And here's what we're gonna do. We're gonna issue United States Treasury notes that are non secured just like what we got today if that debt's not valid. They're non secured notes. Right. We issue enough non secured notes to pay off all of this fiat debt that we're supposed to have. Yep. And then we let the free market take over. Say now what those non secured notes worth? I don't know. But I guess the free market will rule, and we'll find out.
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What the hell is wrong with that? We've eliminated the debt. It's nothing. You could use the same technique you're talking about here with Lincoln's greenbacks. Okay? And that system will work. Yeah. You you print the the notes, the currency. It's not money. It's currency. You print it and That's right. Not to hear it. Right. You spend it into circulation. And the trick for the thing to work is you always tax out what you spend in, and there's no excess for speculation. And if that would have happened no interest on it. It would have worked. Right. So, anyway, here's what was this is a good news I've got for you tonight.
Now that you understand this voluntary thing, all you have to do is volunteer out. That's what we teach people. I've been doing it for 14 and a half years. There's never been one blowback from the federal government reported to us. Never once. We get passports. We got we got the whole thing. We'll get okay. So, anyway, we got the that problem, it appears to be solved. Go ahead, Joe.
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I wish we could get back to our emergency powers.
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Okay. Sorry. I interrupted. Sorry.
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Oh, not not not a problem. I think we're having a good discussion here, and that and that's important. That's because that is part of the emergency powers. Is that money one of the things that you want? Go ahead. Go.
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But I think it's important to, if you would, explain how they use the Agricultural Adjustment Act to implement all of this through standing in court.
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Yeah. If it's a title aid of the Agricultural Adjustment Act, where it says that congress shall have the power to coin the money, regulate the value thereof, and a foreign coin. Well, section 43 of that Agricultural Adjustment Act says that congress is hereby going to transfer the congressional powers to coin the money, regulate the value thereof, and a foreign coin to the president, and they did. Now that's important, as to how congress then begin to transfer their constitutional powers to the executive. Okay? And that was just the beginning because once the executive had the powers and the congress knew that they could do it, they then began to pass all these, all the acts that it was transferring all these powers. And I got here and marked someplace in my book where it started the list. Here's just some of the things they done on the 1st 100 days. And on March 9th, they done the Emergency Banking Act.
March 20th, they done the Economy Act, which was, to reduce, the government deficit, but they reduced it with new money. The Civil Conservation Act, control of the natural resources, that was on March 31st. On 19th was abandonment of the gold standard and the seizure of all the gold. On May 12th was the emergency relief act, which can gave control of the social agenda and the natural, national welfare programs. On May 12th was the Agricultural Adjustment Act. May 18th was the Tennessee Valley Authority Act, which basically nationalized all the utilities. May 27th was the Securities Exchange Act, which controlled all of private finance.
June 9th was the house joint resolution, for the abrogation of the coal gold clause and all the public and private contracts. That will well, that's what Joe was talking about. The homeowners loan act, which control the financing and the prices of the homes and the bailout of all the banks. The National Industrial Recovery Act, which required every industry to license itself and, for labor then to form the the Labor Relations Act and, to compete with the with the big corporations. The Glass Steagall Act, which divorced commercial and investment banking. The Railroad Coordination Act, which resulted in the naturalization and the transport of all transportation in the end. And it goes on and on, as the, you know, the kinds of powers that we created and gave to the what what is now the bureaucracy.
It's always hundreds of agencies and commissions and bureaus, and we can go on and on, until we got this bloated government that we have today. Yep.
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Jean, didn't they extend the mortgage, to 30 year mortgages in that period too? It seems like before it was the Jimmy Stewart, it's a wonderful life, banking world, and the banks held their own paper, and they never issued a mortgage more than 10 years. I believe they extended it to 30 in that, with this all this going on too.
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You know, and that could be the case. I'd have to go back and reread through OMX to see if it's in there. But I it wouldn't surprise me a bit because I know, with the Reconstruction Finance Corporation, I was trying to remember what what that was, but I think that was unlimited terms.
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Probably.
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And that came in, like, 38, I think. Mhmm. But the but the point being is what all this is boiled down to is we now have this gigantic, bloated bureaucracy. It's not a constitutional republic. It's not a democracy. It's a bureaucracy, and it's made up of the big corporations Yep. Being the government being one of the biggest of the corporations. Yep. It's the deep state. All these bureaucrats and and that and the bureaus and the commissions and the deep state. Yes. And that's what we're dealing with. Right.
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The bureaucrats, It came the first time it came there was some of it in Rome, I believe. But the first time they really took this plan was in the French Revolution. And as they instituted the administrative state after the revolution, they would identify the bureaucrats because they would have burlap on their desk. And burlap is is bureau in French, and that's where it came from.
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Right.
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Right. So
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So that leaves us now down to where we're at. You know, I was just sitting here thinking, well, they they say, okay. We're gonna, create this efficiency in government. Well, number 1, you can't create a pure, an efficient bureaucracy. They're, you know, they're diabetically opposed to each other. But, nonetheless, you know, what do you you here here, we're gonna have this, elimination of this bureaucracy. So I was just sitting here a while ago thinking, well, if we eliminated a 1000 bureaucrats a day, That'd be 367,000 bureaucrats a year.
10 years from now, if we kept doing that, we wouldn't even make a dent in the number of bureaucrats we got. There's over 600 of those agencies. Yeah. So here's the the thing. If we're gonna fix this thing, the all all we can do is terminate the act of March 9, 1933. Terminate the emergency, and 99% of the bureaus and the bureaucrats will go away. They have no authority.
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Question. Jane, do you still contend that that emergency is in effect to this day?
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Yeah. Look around, Joe. You don't have to ask me the question. Just look. Yes. Absolutely, it's in effect.
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Because that that was discussed earlier in the day about which was the longest lasting emergency.
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Yes. Right? I don't know of 1 because we have Federal Reserve notes or Federal Reserve Bank notes. What have you got? Yeah. No. We got notes. You know, that's all you need to know. And you can read right in the act itself that this this will terminate when the president terminates it. Never happened.
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Now the one original one in 1917 was terminated when the war was stopped. Right? But this one in 33
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But they but they but they never changed it. Whenever they, terminated the, World War 2 or, yeah, the World War 1 one, they left that trading with the enemy air clogs in there. And then that's the one they've relied on for the for the March 9th one.
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Right. That's where they except for section 5 b. Section 5 b. Right. Except for section that's it. Well, you know, you heard you heard Trump about a year ago when they were doing all these malicious prosecutions on him, and he made he said Sure. They're trying to charge me with some 1917 legislation. That's what it was. Right?
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What do you think that is that these people that surround him and him and he himself, do they have a clue what we're dealing with here, you think?
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Joe. I I mean, Jean, I wish I knew. We our stuff at least come we have a pilot student that flies big wigs around out of Georgia, and he says that it is being discussed at Mar a Lago. He didn't tell me if it was the security guards, the groundskeepers, the chefs, who was discussing it. But the IR stuff is starting to percolate around a little bit. So I I don't know the extent. I try not to get my hopes up because they've been dashed so many times previously. And just take one step in front of the other and wait for the good lord to open the door where we can get a big platform to a large audience. If I I think we're, we got a very firm foundation.
I've been teaching this for 14 and a half years. I don't charge anybody. I give it away and, have that radio show to help answer questions because I know how complex it is. And, and we're making progress, although it's excruciatingly slow and much slower than I would have thought or like. But I know that I'd rather be a a firm foundation organization than a flash in the pan. Our message is very powerful and it makes what it does, Jean, instead of having to get rid of the bureaucrats with Trump, we do it ourselves. Once you do this, none of them have any authority or or jurisdiction over you except for 2 constitutional taxes in in the IRS code. And that's the only, authority from any agency that they have on you. And, we've had proof after proof of it with students and situations. But, anyway, that's kind of a synopsis.
And and I because what we're doing is what you tried to do on a group effort, we're doing on an individual effort. It's kind of the dialectic of it in a in a sense. Right. But they recognize it, man. I'm telling you, they recognize Well, there's a couple more here that I that I wanted to bring up specifically because I think Let's do that. That they're really important.
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And the one of them, here's this reciprocal trade agreement act of, June 12, 1934.
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Okay.
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Constitution says Congress shall have the power to regulate commerce among the several states and with the foreign nations. Here, congress delegated their power, to form these trade agreements. They transferred that over to the president in this recreat in Reciprocal Trade Agreements Act. And so here we see today, we're sitting here talking about tariffs and, whether we're gonna put them on China or what we're gonna do. Well, we've been saying this for 50 all my life, and we just keep giving our money away. And we run these trade deficits to the 1,000,000,000 of dollars a month. Yep. And here's and here and here's the problem.
Get another one of those damned emergency acts that that transferred over congressional power over to the over to the bureaucracy and over to the big corporations, and they're not gonna sit there and do something to hurt their sales.
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No. No. And don't forget, these are the merchants of the earth. Okay? They're masters That's it. At this trade thing. And, basically, you're talking about how Hitler got around them was winning on an economic theory where they basically bartered, and that's when they fired the shot heard around the world when they declared that bankruptcy on Germany. That was really the first shot of World War 2 in my mind. So, yeah, this is a age old problem. It's they they get control of it, and they totally not only control it, but enrich themselves unbelievably in the process.
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That's right. And we deal and we're dealing with it, tonight, basically. Yep. Or, you know, every day. So it's Right. So it you say, well, does it still exist today? Well, does it or doesn't it? Of course. Yeah. There's no there's no question. None whatsoever. And so Well, see that's one I was gonna
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Yeah. No. Go ahead, please. No. No. No. Please. I'll call back online. No. I was just gonna say While we're talking about this, go ahead and say it. I was just gonna say that's what our deal does is it here, when you file it's a very simple affidavit. Okay? It's just one paragraph was stating that you're national, and the second is you show them in the affidavit how how you're getting out of their tax system. So it totally unobligates you to that $37,000,000,000,000 worth of debt, and they can't say a word about it. The whole thing's on fraud. And they this is so derogatory to them because two things happen the minute you put it in the mail.
You get your freedom, and they get totally exposed because they can't rebut it. They can't deny it, and that means the only thing they can do is stand mute, and that means they convict themselves. And as this been happening for 14 and a half years, okay, and they recognize it.
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Yep. And dead is dead is not income.
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No.
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No. No. No. It just They they struggle with that too.
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Oh, yeah. Well, we said you know, remember the show me the law, IRS guys? Show me the law. They put that big ad in the New York Times $50,000 reward. I'll show I can show you the law and show you how it operates. And that's what's in that affidavit, in the second paragraph. It's, hidden behind the term right at the first of the book down there in the regulations called nonresident alien. They turned it right there, nonresident to the residency of the 14th amendment, and as a Colorado State citizen, you're alien from the federal government. That's what it is, and they recognize it. K?
So, I I'm I'm I don't know if I sent you any of our stuff or not, but I would like to send you just one videotape that I think will do the job of explaining what we do, a, and how they've done this. Get it.
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What they've done? My dad, Daryl Croeter. I don't know if you ever met my dad or not. Hi. But my dad was the leader of of of this movement.
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Is that right?
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Oh, cool. Oh, yes. Cool. For years years.
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I will I'll through Joe or whatever, I don't think I've got your email address, but I get I'm sure I can get it. And I'll drop you that. And what it does at the first that's so powerful is it shows you how they've done it. And then I show you what they've done. Okay? And this is what they've done it. Alice in Wonderland. They go in Pavlovianly and take and, puts up opposite definitions of keywords and they Pavlovianly install them in your subconscious mind. Now your subconscious takes over for your conscious. The biblical part of this is James 1 8 where it says a double minded man is uncertain in all of his ways. That's what they've done. They've made us double minded.
So the remedy k. Is to simply identify those words and go in and change the definition to the real definition, then your subconscious and your conscious are working together. It's totally empowering like God meant you to be, And it every time you do that with a word, you get a slice of reality back.
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And that's good.
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Okay. So I'll make sure we get you that, that interview because it's one of the better ones I've done, I think, over all these years. And, I wanted to also with that mortgage question about extending the 30 year mortgages. The other thing you wanted to get into was Mort, Maine. And, when we mentioned it today, Mark, Mark is with us tonight. I said, I've never even heard that word before. Well, that's the root word of mortgage. Haven't. You know? That's right. That's the root word of mortgage.
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Yeah. That's, you know, that's a mortgage. That's the death pledge.
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Yes. It is. So
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yeah. Well, there's no doubt. Well, anyway, I was just, that's one of the other things I was gonna bring up here was, executive order number 6814. No. That was not the right one. Which one am I looking at here? I was gonna pull this other one up if I can find it. But, anyway, I can tell you what it says. It it deals with the, all the national national resources. And, here it is. It's executive order number 7065, June 1, 1935. Mhmm. And it created the National Resource Board, which took control of all the public lands that had not been disposed of. Remember in the constitution, it says that Congress shall have the power to dispose of the public lands.
Mhmm. Mhmm. Nowhere did it give give them the authority to own public lands. They could have forged magazines, arsenals, and other needful buildings, but they could not go out and own property. Okay? That was in violation of the Mortmain. The Mortmain is the dead hand laws, and what it says is that corporations aren't creations of God. Corporations are the creations of man's and government. Therefore, because a corporation is not alive, it can't own property. Only the living can own property. So here we sit with this corporation now. And you say, well, does it own land? Only about 70% of the western land is claims it owns now, didn't it?
Yes. That began in 1935 with the National Resources Act when they took control of all the natural resources. Mhmm. And then went on and on and on, accumulating all all all the properties they've got. Yes. And they're in direct violation of the Mortmain. The Mortmain, like I said, is the dead hand law, like the mortgage. That's the death pledge. The amortization, the amortization, to take it out of the mort. You got those words and and back our ancestors understood that so well. That's the reason we had the laws because they dealt with it not only to the kings for, you know, for centuries, but also then the church.
And so if you look it up in the dictionary, it'll say corporations, you know, ecclesiastical, or temporal. It makes no difference. Uh-huh. They're in violation of the fundamental laws of of forever.
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I I've never heard anybody bring this up before. It's really interesting. Are you familiar with an act that they passed about a month? It was in April, I think, and it was s r, senate resolution 92 or 192. I think it's just 92. Are you familiar with that where they stated that they owned all your property? Think so.
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Well, if if I I'm doing that for a member. Stated what? S r s r.
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I believe it's 92. K? Okay. And and there's a statement there that says that they have taken over all the property in the US, yada yada yada, and that includes we us, the people too, and they don't state that, but it does. And then at the end of that paragraph, there's this phrase that says, except by operation of law. Now, the reason that catches my eye is because when we instruct people to apply for passports, occasionally, not often, been doing it about 10 years occasionally, someone will get a bluff letter is what I call them. There's like they're seeing what you know, and they've they're real slick about it. It has different bodies, but every one of them has the same first paragraph.
And it says, I'm paraphrasing here, it appears by what you've submitted that you are a citizen of the United States. And then it quotes the 14th amendment, all persons born yada yada yada. And and then it goes, this cannot be waived unilaterally, yada yada yada, except by operation of law. And so the first time I ever saw that years ago, I saw that, and it triggered because that other one that I'd seen years ago. And so all we do is contest them and go something to the effect of, is Vatel's law of nations lawful enough for you? Where it says every man has the right of personal political self determination or another approach, and this is good. It says the the 14th amendment you quote says and subject to the jurisdiction thereof. Yeah. Yeah. It does not say it does not say are subject to the jurisdiction thereof, and I'm not subject to it. And they always recognize it, and they always get their documents that they were trying to see how much they knew. So that little there's your difference right there is to get it on the lawful side.
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Right. And, you know, so, anyway, that's, you know, most people never even heard or thought about the laws of Mortmain. Our our forefather, Jefferson, wrote about it quite extensively and some of the others. But, but the point being is that, you know, a corporation, it's it's a combination. It's a combination of of money. For people with money, pool their money together into a big gang. And Correct. By doing that, they gain advantage. And, then they get special regulations and and the you know, everything. It become like me, you know, going up against, an army, with a single shot and thinking that I can compete with them. Well, you know, I can do that. Well, it's the same same way with the labor unions. They were given the right to unionize so that they could, in some degree, compete against the big combinations of capital.
Well, here we see it. They're all illegal. They're all unconstitutional, and they're unlawful. Well, they all infiltrate them. Interrogation of individual rights.
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Yes. And they all infiltrate them and turn them against us or use them however they wanna use them against us.
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Well, they just turn into the bureaucracy. I mean, they're just they just become a part of it, the ruling elites. I mean, Sanders and Neil, you can listen to these politicians and a lot of them talk about it, but I don't think they know what the hell they're talking about.
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Very few do, if any. That's for sure. Yeah. Very few. Yeah. But I'm I'm really glad you wanted to talk about this Mortmain thing. I've never even thought into that that that deep, but, boy, it makes perfect sense.
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And Well, go to Blackhawk. Just look it up. Mortmain, m o r t m e I n.
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Oh, I'm just saying about the corporations not being a not being but legal persons able to own land. And, man, that's a really valid point. I've never heard anybody bring it up. Absolutely.
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Yeah. I mean, yeah. And that's been a valid point for for centuries and centuries. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. I mean, we're we're talking almost from the from, you know, the very beginning.
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Right. I don't think that, if I remember John right, corporate personhood was granted in a case called Brown versus International Shoe, and it seems to me it was in 1800.
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The Santa Santa Clara cases, Back in California, the 9th Circuit, ruled that a corporation, is a person.
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Uh-huh. Well, that's a big part. You know what's coming up is all this discussion on the 14th amendment is is gonna get pretty interesting here if Trump gets in and they start bringing that up and it's already being brought up in certain circles. And that's where this is right in the wheelhouse. They cannot get rid of birthright citizenship or else they lose the basis of the monetary system. Because those people being born as babies and extended their collateral into attaching it to the bonds remember, bond is the root word of bondage. And so if those people aren't citizens of property, they can't do that with them. They'll never let them take that away.
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No. And they and they can't place them in the mortise because they're born anyway. That I mean, the you know, what's the that noise would would would become, you know, widespread. That's that's a loser.
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Well, let me show you how they're doing that. When they put everybody in initially in March 9th 33, hidden under this through this birthright citizenship is the feudal system, because that's the only system in history the planet that had that aspect of assigning a political status on where you're born. So whoever got stuck into that in 33, all their generations have been born into the condition. It's but it's a silent contract that runs generationally. But you because it's voluntary, even though it might have been 10 generations ago, you can still volunteer out at any time. That's what this what makes this affidavit so effective in the fact they can't do anything about it. And and those two questions, when you turn 18 and you start getting those questions in all your financial and and anything important you do, are you a citizen of the United States? Are you a resident?
And I remember back when I was younger before I understood this, I was almost scared not to answer yes. And then so they get you to answer yes. You're conditioned to do it, and then you sign something, which means you're agreeing to the contract that you've been born into. So all we're doing is saying, no. We're out of that. We, we we're out of that. We're not what you we've told you we were. It's fraud, and you we're not giving you the consent to govern us. Yeah, Joe.
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Could could we please get back to
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to my Well in Morp Main?
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Well, I don't I think okay. Jay, you got any more on that?
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On Morp Main or give me your powers? Right on the Morp Main. Give me give me your thoughts on it, Joe.
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Yeah, buddy.
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Well, not that I know you've thought a lot about it. I have thought a lot about it, and you gave me a tape a cassette tape on it years years ago, and be darned if I can find it. And, I didn't make a good enough study of it when I had the opportunity with that tape. I wish I could find it. But,
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you know, let me do some hunting around. Maybe I can find one of the tape someplace or find somebody that's got one.
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Well, if you could. And, the other thing too that I would might interject here, Jean, is, I never did had, Lisa's phone number or their home phone number. All I had was Ed's cell number. And, anyway, I hated that I didn't wasn't aware that he passed, but I do know that he had a number of recordings. And, Paul Beiner is very good about being able to copy that material and remaster it. And it would sure be nice if you could think of a way that we could get a hold of those for Paul to to remaster and make them available to more people. Sure.
And, you know, it's just like he, he did this for an emergency power video that he did, and he did a really, really nice job on it. And, there that's you've been exposed to a lot of people more than you know, through that being remastered and put on this website. Right. So if we could get some of those tapes and stuff that Eddie had, maybe we could
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see Lisa's got them, and I'm sure she'll she'll pass them on to us. I'll have to get ahold of her. I'll get you her phone number too, and we'll make arrangements to get all that done. That that would be nice, Jane.
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Because, you know, the work the work that you folks did,
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move Ed was a tremendous part of that too. He much forward. Moved it forward a whole bunch,
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and it's much appreciated. But, you know, I'm not schooled enough in Mark Maine to be able to talk about it, but I've know I've heard you speak on it before, and that's the reason that I brought it up that, I know enough to be dangerous
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Mhmm. We'll talk about that. I'd love to Yeah. I'd love to hear, and then more
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more background. Go ahead, g.
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But I'm saying that, you know, and it's but, basically, I mean, if you just just stop and think about it a minute, it it's just common sense. I mean, there is no way that a government created culmination of power, can, cannot be, in violation of the individual rights. I mean, the individual can't compete against that, and, it never could. But you're talking about,
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corporations, owning property and being persons. And wasn't there a supreme court ruling that kind of flew in everybody's face here within the last few years. Mark, you may remember it.
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Yeah. It had to do with, funding elections. And so these corporations were wanting to to donate big money to various, campaigns, political campaigns. And people were fighting that, and it went up to the Supreme Court. I don't recall the the actual case name, but that's where the the Supreme Court ruled that a corporation is a person.
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Right. Can give money to political campaigns just like they were in person. Right? And and we know that can't you know, obviously, that that can't be right.
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Well, it can't be because a personhood, a corporation lives lives and dies at the behest
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of person. The state.
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The state. Thank you. But an individual lives or dies by his creator.
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That's it. And this and the the corporation is a I mean, it's a it's a privilege, created by the state. It doesn't talk. It doesn't walk. It, can't procreate. The only it's it's a dead entity. And, once you take the land and put it into that dead entity, well, hell, I mean, that's when the kings and the church and all, you know, at different times in history controlled everything.
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Yep. Yep.
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Back to the feudal system.
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Yep. Yep. Back to the feudal system. Absolutely right.
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Yeah. Well, we're born into it, and it's just disguise. I mean, you can go back to, oh, what was the guy's name that wrote tragedy and hope? Bill Clinton's favorite professor at Georgetown
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Quigley.
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Thank you. Quigley. And he you read his book, there's a paragraph or a little bit in there. It says, the world's financial leaders met on a regular basis in secret. So the and they formed the financial system of the globe in a feudalist fashion. Well, you can't have a feudal financial system without serves.
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That's it. Yep.
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Especially when it's based on And and property. Yep. And Well, they are property. Well, they are property. They are. You know? They are part of the property. You're right. Yep. And that, you know, it's, it's, Jean, it's so good to talk to you and hear you. I I was, of course, in the early in the movement a couple of years when your original thing came out, and it was a smash hit around our circles. But, you know, there just weren't enough people awake back then. I mean, even now, we might not have enough,
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but we got more. Well, that's true. You know? But, you know, you never know. Things change. And, sometimes they change pretty fast, so you never know what the future is gonna bring. You we just don't know yet.
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I saw Eustace Mullins' interview when he was still alive. God bless him. And he said, well, god was merciful on us, and he gave us the Internet.
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Boy, there'd never been a true a truer statement than that right there. That that's it. That's it. Because now they they really do have a hard time controlling our communications. Yeah. They can. They do a lot. No. But but it's but it's a tough one now. No. It's very difficult.
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Could I ask Joe if anybody's got any questions for doctor Gene here, or if he wants to expand on the main topics anymore, but at least open it up if anybody's got a question for him while we got him.
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I do have a question that I'd like for him to address, and that is how Roosevelt went about stacking the court, which, you know, we've had runs on that here the last couple of years trying to make that happen. Yeah. They're trying to do it again. And that could even happen before 20th January.
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If we're all right. Roosevelt tried to step to court, but he'd never could get it done. That he, for 2 years, they worked, but they never could get enough support to do it. But it didn't matter because, at the end of that 2 years, a couple of those, Supreme Court justices changed their position. And they turned around and ruled all those things that ruled unconstitutional, like the, seizure of the gold, the, American agriculture, you know, the AAA Act, the, National Industrial Recovery Act. They turned around and overturned all that and and verified it. I think that was in 1930 early 35 when they done those.
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In other words, the bankers got to them. But they certainly
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absolutely got to them with some money. I mean, it's obvious. So they've tried it one other time, and it wasn't successful.
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Are you Hugo Black came up on the show the other day recently. Are are you familiar with his background? He was one of those background? He was one of those 3 that they stuck on there. I think he was from Tennessee and he was a a grand dragon of the Ku Klux Klan. And and he was one of those 3 and he want his decision that is, I guess, probably the most memorable is lifting Jefferson's statement about the separation of church and state and inserting it into one of his opinions. And so now it's gospel when it was totally it came from a different source, you know. All this malarkey that's gone on.
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Well, you know, it's, the way they can turn meanings and words and and, you know, yeah. I mean, it's just phenomenal what's happened in the last 50, 70 years in this country.
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You said about your father. I'd like to ask you if I could. You said he started the, the the ag movement that y'all are talking about or just got what year did he was he involved in this? That must have been the fifties?
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Yeah. Well, he he he's starting in the sixties. Yeah. And, so he was, you know, certainly a part of the citizenship deal and, you know, federal citizenship versus the state citizenship and the Oh, great. And all of that. And, so but he was also part of the American Ag Movement, you know, which was, you know, just he was just one of us, but, he sure did fight this IRS, and they never collected a penny from him either.
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Fantastic. Well, God rest his soul, and I hope he's, smiling down on you, Jean, for all of your contributions, following up on what you started. And, you know, the key to this whole thing that I've been able to find, and I had a pretty sharp other teacher too. It wasn't just John Benson. It's this guy that coached Roger Staub. He stumbled onto this information with John, and he was the one that did all this, that made it happen, really. And, this is what Glenn says. He said, if you don't know that you're dealing with the feudal system, you'll never do anything but shadow box with it. And I've totally found that to be true.
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I I agree.
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And when you do know what it is, this is well, I've I've I've been tricked into volunteering in. I'll just volunteer out. It's my it's my choice. Otherwise, they're open tyrants, and we'll just go on about our lives. And and what it turns out to appear to be is that they're scared to death of this because it totally strips them of their powers and exposes them simultaneously. And so they wouldn't come after anybody even if they could, I don't believe, because they don't want the this whole information in the spotlight anywhere. So we've really kinda got super kryptonite for super parasites, what we call them, because they're really the old Pharisees that Jesus fought. They do the same crap, the same exact way, just with a lot of modern technology and much more sophistication.
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Question.
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Please.
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Doctor Jean? Doctor Jean? Yes. Is is there a what what would you think would be the fastest political solution with doing away with the trading of the, enemy act?
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I think it would be a total worldwide collapse. Personally, I think I think that's what we'd have. Oh. I mean, you just eliminate, you know, hell, you just eliminate everything that people, you you know, anymore in the modern day lives off of.
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Right. How about Babylon, oh Babylon at Babylon, oh Babylon, the great has fallen in an hour like that, Mark?
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I think Yeah. So this I think about magnitude.
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And So doctor jean, you're saying there's not a there's not a a solution for all this licensing? I mean, when I first started with Farmers
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I When I think that is the solution.
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You know? Because I When you first learned That blew my mind when I learned that farmers had to have a permit or a license to raise cotton and to raise peanuts. And I was like, are you kidding me? You're telling me if I had a 100 acres out here, I couldn't go plant some some cotton on it and then go sell it without a permit? That's insanity to me.
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Yeah. It I I know. But, you know, but I I mean, that was it wasn't just agriculture. I mean, it was, just like any in industry. They had to go get a license to to be able to produce anything.
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Yeah. It's insane. Still do.
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So, guys, I don't know. But I think, you know, the only way to cure it is just cure it. Eliminate the system we got, and and we'll start over, good or bad, and, and somehow we'll survive it.
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Well, with 30
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trillion? With 36 trillion and growing, I I don't know how, you know, far off we're gonna be from that. They can't sustain the debt.
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Even even if you did pay it, all the money goes away because that is the money. So, if you paid all the debt off, there'd be absolutely no money, and so we're gonna collapse anyway. So I think, you know, I don't know when or I don't know how, but, at some point, I think this thing will have to go through a major collapse.
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Well, you know, there's there's a real interesting idea being floated. I can't remember the guy's name. I'm not into cryptos anymore of any at any level. I used to be a couple years ago. But what he's saying is Trump's favorable favorable to Bitcoin now. You go out, and they've got they're the largest holders in the world of Bitcoins, the United States government. All the ones they've seized and everything. They go by 25% of the blockchain, and with the Bitcoins that are produced, they start paying off the national debt through the bonds and start paying the bonds off. And, and they liquidate it that way. That's looks like that might work. Don't know. Replace the bonds with Bitcoins. Right?
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Right. Well, that'd be another I mean, that'd be another way of doing it whether we do it through Bitcoins or or whatever just to pay the damn debt off. You know? Yep.
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Yep. Economist Martin Armstrong said that, if they would you could pay it off in 8 years if they would just start issuing US notes. And every time money was owed, then we just send US notes and and then start and start canceling or destroying the federal notes.
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Right. That's right. Federal Reserve notes. Just pay it off and and do away with them. And Yeah. In 8 years. No. I I agree. That's that's the only option I can see that we might get out of this thing with some semblance of a soft landing. I you know, that's all I can think of.
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Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. Well, we're gonna see some real interesting immediate future for all of us. If we can get Trump inaugurated on 20th. This whole, drone thing may be a continuity of government's build up to where they're gonna try and declare the aliens the enemy and because that shifts automatically to one of the army commands, and they take over the whole country out of the out of, NORAD, out there where you are, doctor Gene.
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Yep.
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That's what they're talking about. So I don't know. Maybe. So just hang on the edge of your seat every day, and, be very nimble. Be be very flexible and agile.
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That's all we need. Need. And, have a few essentials put away if you can. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Alright, guys. Well, anyway, I won't keep any longer. So, what we do everybody think about this thing, and then we'll schedule another one here And Gene, that's just be so. And That'd be fantastic. We will talk about it again. Kinda see how this thing's progressing after he gets inaugurated.
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Yes. If you can find some of those stakes on. Go ahead, Paul. Go ahead, Paul. I think you're trying to say something.
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Yeah. Excuse me. I've got a question for Gene. Do you have, do you have a DVD player?
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I don't DVD player on your TV set? I I I could probably find one someplace.
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VCR.
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Get you one. We can get you a DVD player. No problem.
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Oh, yeah. I'll find one someplace.
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Okay. All I need is an address. I All I need is an address. I'll send you one. Yeah. I'll go, Joe. We'll get one from Joe. No problem. Oh, okay.
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Joe Joe earlier suggested that, that we take a copy of the remastered war and emergency powers presentation and write that to a DVD and send it off to you.
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So Oh, yeah. So
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and I'm I'm happy to do that.
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Doctor Gene, this is this is Mark in Oklahoma City, and I, got exposed to Dan Meder in in, Ponca City and worked for him for a little bit, back in 1999, and then I went to work for him in 2001. I watched your, 1994 presentation on the, emergency powers act and I really wanna thank you for doing that. You did it in such a great fashion. It's easy to understand and it's mind blowing When you start laying out the law in front of people, it's just really a shock. Yep. So thank you for doing that.
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Yep. And it was a shock to me too as we began to study through it. And once we Oh, yeah. Hell, we knew what we were we knew what we'd find before we ever went and looked at these laws. Right. And we knew what they were gonna say. And so that pretty well indicated we was on the right track.
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Right. Right. Yep. That was really good news. Them. I really appreciated it.
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I commend you and the whole research team. Joe says a number of them aren't with us anymore, and that's too bad because they may see all of their work product stuff, go through a resurrection of sorts. We I almost insist on all of our new students. Go watch that as part of their early learning experience because you're the bedrock of what we do. What you came out with at Show and Prove is the bedrock of what I take them to the next step with, and I sure do appreciate everything and and everything you've done for the country, man. And it's a pleasure that you're still with us and that we can have this conversation.
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Let's do it again, after the inauguration, and, we'll see what we're progressing along and see what new thoughts we have.
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Okay. Fantastic, Jean. Well, just a pleasure. I can't express it enough. And, thank you so much, and it was a pleasure to talk to you again. Hear it right from the the old mouth of the guy that was involved in it. So thank you so much. Guys, and let's,
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go from there. We'll we'll meet again here in a few days, and we'll see see what's changing if anything. So okay.
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Got it right, buddy. Have a good evening. Okay. You take care of yourself, doctor Gene. Okay?
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K. You got you guys too. See you. Okay. Thank you. Take care, doctor Gene. It's been a pleasure.
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Alright, boy. That was a really nice conversation, Joe. Thank you so much for setting that up.
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You're most welcome.
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What a just a charming gentleman.
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What's interesting is a lot of it lines up with our stuff and vice versa. Perfect. Amazing.
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It just we take an individual accent. At the end, he takes a group accent. And we chip away at it one little bite at a time. We'll get there, folks. We'll get there. And we get enough people, they they cannot say no. So just one step at a time, one day at a time.
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Yep.
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Alright. Well, thanks everybody for participating. Mark, I'm glad you were involved in that. And, I'll see y'all tomorrow. We'll play it and talk about it. Okay?
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Alright. Good chance I might not be there, tomorrow. Probably be, Saturday before I'm back on.
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Okay, buddy. Well, you take care and and, with what you're doing. I know you got heavy responsibilities.
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And all these emails that people keep sending.
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Oh god. I'm sorry, man. I didn't believe that you know so much more about it than me, and I'm setting you up some maybe potential, you know, clients too. So
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Yeah. Yeah. Well, it's okay. I it's, interesting. We get people, then I spent so much time helping this guy out. And then finally you know, I'm I'm just assuming because he's talking about I did this and I, you know, file my affidavit and and I'm like, okay. Okay. So I'm thinking he's using your materials. Come to find out he's using David Strait's materials, American State National. And I looked at his stuff. He sent me a copy of his w four that his employer's throwing a fit over and every right to throw a fit over. And I'm like, oh my gosh, and then I said go get your tax transcript This tax transcript showed all of his wages Had listed him as a contract labor, but at the top it said he was an employee. So that was all messed up. Oh, no, no, no why they put it that way other than to So I said, oh, oh I I said when I found out he'd gone through David straight. I said normally right here, I'd cut it off and tell you to go back to them. But I said, but I don't want you to blindly walk into a buzz saw.
Got it right. And then I said, here's what you need to do. You need to reboot this. If you if you like working with your employer, then, you know, tell them that you sought counsel and, that you made some mistakes and, submit them a new 2025 w four and the one for estate. And, he came back today and thanked me for that and even wrote him a little short cover letter, you know explaining the situation and, so my goodness I I my new policy is, if you said you've done anything, you need to send me copies of it because I wasted so many emails going back and forth answering little questions only to find out he isn't even on the same page.
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Yeah. Your first question is who have you studied under?
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He's not even in the same book. No.
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Hey. I feel so sorry for those people. They muddy the water so much for us and others. It's a it's a shame.
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He profusely thanked me. You know? Because thank you for let let me just walk into a buzz saw. You know? Because that's what it would have done. He would have not only been in trouble with his employer, he would have had the IRS breathing down his back pretty soon. So now he's got a chance to correct everything.
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Oh, good. God bless you. God bless you. Well, we're making progress, folks. We're growing. I'm real pleased. I'm I'm pleased with the way the show's going and the format. I'm pleased with having Mark and Paul on board and some of the things that seem to be coming together for us, and it's just, it's good feedback after all these years. It was a lot of years with not a lot of good feedback, quite frankly. Some good shows, though. Yep. Yeah. Lord. Okay. Well, I'm gonna go, go get some dinner, and it was great to get with you guys tonight. And market with the exception of you. I guess I'll see you the others tomorrow.
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Yep. See you Saturday. Okay, buddy. Thank you. Good night.
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Alright.
[01:03:46] Unknown:
Thank you, Mark. Everyone. You, Raj. You're welcome. My pleasure. Thanks to everybody.
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Introduction to the War and Emergency Powers Act
Overview of Emergency Powers and Historical Context
The Feudal System and Birth Certificates
Voluntary Servitude and Financial Independence
The Expansion of Government Powers in the 1930s
The Role of Corporations and Mortmain Laws
The Bureaucracy and Its Historical Roots
The Impact of Corporate Personhood
Potential Solutions and Future Outlook
