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And good morning. We're gonna take another stab at it here, Alvin.

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that's about it for me. Is that it? Okay. That's about all I have. Alright. Well, I'm gonna dribble for a minute, and, we've got a little bit of a video,

tape on play for you. The audio of it I'd like to talk about, we mentioned it at the end of

yesterday's show, Flip on Harrison.

It's usually I don't get up at eight. I get up a little after, so it's a little end of the show there

and and get ready to be with you guys here

and gals.

And this morning, I have to turn it on. It's all about,

one of the subjects that just makes me wanna puke

is Israel.

Israel.

And, the story that I woke up to this morning, and this all goes back to control the money, of course.

He's going over a story of and I didn't get the city. I think it's in Florida somewhere. Maybe some of you have heard this.

The mayor of the town, they were showing a Palestinian

documentary at the movie theater, Paul, and the mayor of the town shut down the movie theater. He's a Jew.

Mhmm.

And and and I've I've

boy, I tell you.

I just get to a point where I've had it with these people. And the problem is is we've got a way to beat them and we can't get people to listen.

Okay? And there are so many people they've deceived by dispensationalism

And what you know, think about this, and I,

fond of saying that

here lately, I think that this stuff we delve into on a regular basis for so many years, I think that's the start of the civil war. I think that the civil war was exacerbated so they could put these two amendments in the constitution

so they could control The US Sixty Years later and through The US control the world with the dollars or reserve currency.

That kind of a schematic doesn't just happen.

It's planned. It's executed, and it happened. Okay? Well, if you take this,

dispensationalism

aspect of of these people

and realize that they were working on Scofield

back in the eighteen fifties.

Right along the time, they would have been planning this. So they were putting all this together a hundred and seventy years ago, sixty, whatever it is.

So, anyway, and it's just

it's exacerbating to me that they've got us so dumbed down that we most of our people can't recognize this, can't recognize what's in front of them Even when you you lay out the two questions and then and then give them the actual questions, it still doesn't register with them evidently.

So I I I get ultra frustrated unless

either one

either our information gets widespread or or Jesus Christ comes back,

we're we're gonna have to deal with these people.

And it's just repulsive

the way they act, how how they're doing. I heard another story of a a

little gal that was at Columbia.

And, little South Korean gal came over here when she was seven years old, brought her parents brought her over. She's now valedictorian

of

something. She I I maybe her graduating class at Columbia or whatever. She's a a really, really high proficient student performing.

And they have because she went to her university

and attended

a rally against Israel and what they're doing in this holocaust.

It is. It's a real holocaust of the gods and so over there. And she simply went to one an organizer,

didn't really participate, just attended.

And they have hunted her down now, Paul.

And they are going to she's a lawful green card holder. They're going to revoke her green card status and extradite her.

I this is just repulsive sickening stuff, folks,

from these people that do tell us. That that never can they can't let anything diminish

or blight Israel. What about us? That's why you'll never hear me mention my name

because this rips the whole damn roof carpet out from under them. And they can't do anything about it. They can't deny it. They can't rebut it. All they can do is stand there and convict themselves

by standing mute, but we cannot get people's attention on this. Now whether it's because they don't see it the way we see it, and I can understand that,

because you gotta be involved in this for a bit before you can get down to the depths of where the roots of this and the importance really lie. You don't just get that on a first glance.

Unfortunately,

they they have really put in a great plan here.

And, boy, is it working flawlessly.

So,

so just all all of this

crap

from these people,

they they're just outright liars.

They're thieves. They're murderers. They're slavers.

They're,

they're they're every other adjective that you could find and attach to them. They they fit you every one of them. K? Where's that little noise coming from, Paul? Do we know? It's not like doing something.

We're kinda on the microphone

somewhere. Okay. Gregory. Yeah. I'm in.

Hello, Roger? Yes.

Good morning. Gary.

Gary. Good morning.

Well, hell, you sound so good. I didn't recognize you.

Yeah. Okay.

I was listening to yesterday's replay, which was a replay,

and it was a very good dissertation on the thirteenth and fourteenth amendments.

However,

one important point that was not brought out by anybody

concerning the thirteenth and fourteenth amendments

was contract.

Everything we do in this society

is contract.

Yeah. Whether you recognize it or not.

Every time you sign your name, it's a contract.

Therefore,

that goes right back to the thirteenth amendment

and involuntary

servitude

because you are volunteering

by contract

Yep. Into their system.

Yep.

And that's why, Gary, I can look at those now after all these years,

and I can see how they work perfectly together, how they were set up and designed

so that they could ask that question, those questions down the line and get you they knew you'd answer yes

and get you to volunteer into this slave system of theirs. They knew that going And, Roger

and, Roger, I agree with you

about the thirteenth and fourteenth amendment being set up for the Civil War

because if you guys remember your history, there was a little thing that come out called the Hazard Circular.

Right. And the Hazard Circular

the Hazard Circular recommended doing away with slavery so that the slaves would have to pay for their own upkeep.

Right. And, therefore,

just

take that and extrapolate that to the thirteenth and fourteenth amendments.

There you go. It was all done

for money and greed.

Yep. Period.

Yep.

And control.

Gary, you sound great, man. How are you feeling?

I'm feeling better.

Well, good. And you sound like you are, and that's just a real welcome,

breath of fresh air here this morning for us.

That Well, I was just hoping to get over the hump.

Well, I do. Well, we do, man. We pray for you and all that stuff and think about you and Gina an awful lot. And, I know it's up to you to when you're gonna reach out and contact us, but thank you and let us let us hear a good strong Gary voice, and, that's wonderful news.

And, too, just to point out, I appreciate all the prayers and all the advice that I've been given in the last week. I thank you each and every one of you.

Yep. Let's get you back up on the saddle again here, buddy.

Up and in. Up and in.

Alright. What else you got to yeah. I bet. I know. No. There's no fun being sick like you've been. Anything else you wanna relate to us, Gere?

No. Just I want people to understand the power of contract.

And if they don't understand that, then they're lost in the sea of of what ifs. Back,

back to that book, historical jurisprudence, the very first sentence in a in a book on the history of jurisprudence.

The first sentence, the first ninety pages of the Babylonian merchant Babylon.

The pardon me. But what year?

I said back to Babylon. It's all the way back there.

Babylon here's the sentence.

Babylon's great contribution to the world

was they reduced everything in the society down to the abstract form of contract.

There's And, Roger, you talk about the feudal system.

Yes.

You talk about the feudal system. All the feudal system is is a contract.

That's all it is.

Uh-huh. And if you and if you were involuntary contract with you.

And if you were in involuntary

servitude, it was a contract between lord of the manor and whoever the slave master was.

No. That was that's slavery.

But what we're talking about is voluntary

contract, voluntary servitude.

You are saying yes to it just like the Irish did when they got on the boat and come over.

Yeah. You wanna stay on the boat or you want us to throw you in the water? Your choice.

Yeah.

Well, that's what it is, and at least we've been able to identify.

And it is if you're new here. I don't know.

Well, if you're new here, welcome, first of all.

But,

it it all goes back to this those little two questions. Boy, you know, it's funny. There Gary, I screwed with this

stuff for many, many years,

and I used to think about those two questions occasionally.

And I remember when I was confronted with with those questions,

I was I was scared to say no.

Have think back about when you signed those things and thought about it. I was scared to what do they do come kick you out of the country

if you say

no? I I hadn't put it obviously, I hadn't put all that together, but I thought about it for years

until, man, looking at that passport application

and ding, ding, ding, ding, all came together.

Anyway, Gary, we're tickled to death to have you back, man. Thank you. Please continue to improve. Alright? And keep us up on your, improvement.

I

mentioned yesterday a little bit about and we're talking about money and what these guys do, and, of course, we're the collateral for all of it.

There was another guy. They had out of England this morning here on Harrison,

and he was going to try and buy a motorbike

for his son

for £2,500.

And he goes to the bank, and the lady won't give it to him. Well, can you show us the bike, or can you show us something about it, or do you need that much? I forgot all the questions she asked. But the the guy finally laid a couple of

deletives on her and walked out, and I don't blame him. So,

again, money, bank, are closing it down. Santander,

which I I don't think they have Santander in The US. Do they, Paul?

I don't I don't believe they do. It's a big Spanish bank.

We had it down in,

Argentina.

I don't think they've got it here that I've seen. Anyway, it's obviously a Rothschild bank, and Santander is lowering the amount that you can take out of an ATM. And you just see the squeeze happening. Okay?

Well, I don't know exactly what part of that it is, but what we're gonna talk about here in this video I wanted to play,

covers part of it, which is now called private equity.

I saw this last Thursday

on the same day we saw the Egypt stuff. So I I got this on the third hour. This is on the third hour. If you wanna go back and hear this, gal, we're not gonna play the whole thing.

In the third hour of Harrison Smith's

American Journal last Thursday, the twentieth.

And then the fourth hour of Alex Jones was this big Egypt

expose on what they've found over there underneath Egypt. So it's kinda two bombshells. This one took a little bit of a back seat.

But, boy, is it important.

And, Paul, if you got that ready to go, I'm just gonna play it. I don't know how much to play, but I wanna give you some background from this gal who's done all the research and has the knowledge, not me. Yes, Paul?

Yeah.

I think I have it. Let's see if let's see if we can get a live starter or if we're gonna get a commercial at the beginning.

Well, at the beginning, I just wanna say go to about six minutes. That's when when he starts interviewing her, sets it up, gives her name.

This lady was and I'll just give you a little thumbnail here. She was a

she owned a franchise.

And

as a franchise owner, she was the head of the union, I believe, of franchise owners of this company, and that's how she came to

be confronted or confront this,

private equity stuff. It's been going on for a while. We've heard this thrown around.

I've heard the name private equity thrown around for a while. You don't really just see okay. Bunch of private guys are gonna go invest. Right?

Well, it's a little more involved than that. And,

I think when I was, listening to this,

I always remember Robbie Noel,

who was real good because of his experience on Wall Street. Some of you know who Robbie was. He was,

the South African guy with that wonderful colonial accent that was on,

RBN every night.

Don't know if Tom's listening or not or not. You probably go over there and find some of his archives.

But he'd been a stockbroker early in his life then moved into gold and silver.

And him and Bennett worked together a lot on the gold and silver deal.

But,

Noel used to talk about the twenties,

the roaring twenties, and the bucket shops,

what they call bucket shops back then,

which I think is basically the same thing as this private equity.

After the Great Depression and they put some legislation in, etcetera, etcetera, that Bill Clinton,

I I can't remember that I should. It's pretty common name. But,

Clinton's the one that threw that by the side that led up to

a lot of stuff we're dealing with now, including the dot com crash and other stuff.

Anyway,

these private equity groups are

They're very healthy

companies.

Yes.

They are.

And some of the ones you might recognize, Hooters.

You know, Hooters went bankrupt

when when they were 90. And she talks about this company called Joanne's

that they've got 9,000,000

new or arts and crafts thing. Maybe that's what it was.

They got 9,000,000

okay. 9,000,000 new customers in the last

three years or four.

Ninety eight percent of their stores were profitable,

and they bankrupted the whole country with this private equity stuff.

So that's what I'd like to cover. It's very important. It could be affecting us all, and I want you to know that it's starting to really become apparent around the society

because what they're doing is they're buying the head franchisor,

and then they're bankrupting all the franchisees

and the company.

So, anyway, let's and I can't remember her name. It's

Susano or something like that. And,

she is extremely knowledgeable in this area. She's done a lot of homework,

has her arms around it. And so, Paul, why don't you give us we we'll play a few minutes over letting her tell you about this rather than me trying to just take stabs at it.

Alright.

Here it goes.

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Here's a video of a woman, using the Wi Fi detector to discover the hidden camera in what appears to be her Airbnb.

And it looks like the person that owns the cam

Joining me today is Tiffany Sianci.

I'm very happy to welcome her to the program today. She is a free speech advocate and a true info warrior. You probably recognize her from her viral video on private equity setting fire to the economy, which you can find pinned to the top of her x account at the vino mom at the vin0mom.

For more on Tiffany and how you can get involved, you can check out her link tree in her bio on that site. She's also on tip on TikTok

at Tiffany

Cianci. That's c I a n c I. Tiffany, thank you so much for joining us today.

Thank you so much for having me on, Harrison. How are you? I'm very good. Thank you. And, I

I'm glad that you're here to explain this to me because if there's if there's one,

area of discussion that I

do not have a lot of of knowledge, to be honest with you, it's the economy. It all seems like black magic witchcraft to me. At a certain level, I give you money, you give me thing. That's about as complicated as I want finances to get. But when you get up to

the hedge funds and all this stuff,

I I I tend to just,

see static. I I don't understand. So but your video really broke down how there's a gigantic bubble forming that nobody is talking about. But can you give folks a a quick rundown as to what you discovered through your your research,

starting with the shutdown of Hooters? Right? How did this all begin?

So I my entire platform on TikTok, which is substantially larger than my ex platform,

has really been about researching private equity and the risks that private equity pose to our economy, especially the middle class and the working class. And that's because I used to be a union president that was targeted by private equity.

I was the president of a union of small businesses that were targeted by private equity firm. So I spent the last three years researching private equity and kind of its machinations and how it plays in our in our economy.

And

I've been working hard on understanding why Joann's closed down. You can't see it, but I'm actually in my craft room. I sew. And I couldn't understand how Joann's was going bankrupt when they'd achieved 9,400,000

new customers over the last four years. Their profits had increased over the last four years. Their stores were 97%

cash positive.

And then I started researching Hooters, which had a very similar trajectory.

And I found one article one article that mentioned something called back floating rate loans.

And I tried to research the topic. I went as far as I could find. I looked in article after article in financial publications, and I could only find one.

So I went to a friend of mine that worked for a private equity firm, one that regularly helps me with some of my prep for my videos,

that is I keep in confidence.

And they said, yeah. We see that a lot. Let me send you over these two journal articles.

In these two journal articles, it discussed that it'd become the norm for private equity

to leverage like, to use a leveraged buyout in whatever they were buying

through a back floating rate loan about 6 to 8 years ago.

And that's when debt was cheap,

and our interest rates were low.

And maybe they arrogantly thought that it would stay low forever. Maybe they thought, like, in the nineties when we had the nineties.com,

like, bubble burst that that was gonna keep riding that wave. But, unfortunately,

our interest rates went up. And when our interest rates went up, so did all of the debt stacked on top of these companies that were already leveraged to the hilt.

So while it had always been the case

that once you were acquired by private equity, you were 11 times as likely to go bankrupt.

And after your second private equity acquisition, you were 23 times as likely to go bankrupt.

Suddenly, now it was doubling and tripling.

Yes. And they've acquired as much as 25% of many sectors.

That's terrifying.

Yeah. It absolutely is. And it it seems

again, I'm not the expert here, but it seems to me like how could you make decisions

with a low interest rate? And did nobody ask the question like, well, wait. What happens when interest rates go up? Like, did they never concern themselves with that? Did That's just it, though. Right? They did. They did ask that question, and the answer was we don't care. Mhmm. The answer was it would be someone else's problem by that point, and it would probably go bankrupt.

And that's pretty common in private equity. They only hold their investments for two to three years, and they they trade them like Pokemon cards.

And about a year and a half ago, there was a lot of

inflammatory rhetoric in the Financial Times and The Economist

because they said that private equity was unable to get valuations high enough for their companies

that they had acquired in the open market and that they'd had to go to something called the secondaries market. The secondaries market is where they just start selling it to one another because no one else will buy it. Oh. And so they make deals. I'll buy this from you if you buy this from me, and we'll inflate the price, but our books will still look good.

And that was a huge red flag for everybody about a year and a half ago. And I was tracking that, but all of a sudden, the bankruptcies of private equity held companies doubled last year.

And then they doubled their worst year on record outside COVID this this past year, and now we're on track to do that again this year.

And so for me, when you look at the broader economy, is it bad because the pensions bought up all that debt? Absolutely. But that's not the most concerning feature. That's just one of the features of the bankrupting and strip mining of the working class of America.

Private equity is a vampire.

It doesn't create anything but wealth for a few. It destroys everything it touches. That's what it's designed to do. And so when you look at this and you see that the bankruptcies are starting to increase, we're not just talking about the pensions. We're talking about every time somebody like Joanne's goes out of business, 40,000 people, 50,000 people are gonna be laid off. Right. 900 to sick like, to a thousand

giant stores in strip malls all across America are gonna sit empty. And if anyone remembers what that was like in o eight, it destroyed the small businesses in those strip malls, and they fell next

because the anchor stores were gone.

So when we're seeing stores like Party City, which was doing incredibly well, financially, people have wanted to throw parties since COVID. Profits have been high, and they are now bankrupted by private equity. Joanne's got 9 and a half million new customers. They are now bankrupted by private equity. Hooters chicken wings are all the rage in every city in America right now. And Hooters is a great example

because Hooters has 25 stores that are still owned by the original owners using the same marketing,

using the exact same recipes,

and they did not take on the extra debt, and they are still successful.

All of their stores are fine. It's only the private equity owned version of the company that's bankrupt.

And so you can see that they're bankrupting all of these corporations,

and it's not just our pensions that are gonna pay the price. It's not just the secondary market that's gonna impact it. It's the commercial real estate that's gonna sit empty. It's the small businesses in those lots that are gonna fall because the anchor stores are gone. And then it's all of the, the layoffs that we're gonna have nationwide

as a result that we're gonna pick up the tap for. It just starts a domino effect that's impossible to look away from.

Right. And the people that that shop to those stores are still gonna wanna buy the thing, so they'll just have to go to Amazon or some other, you know, centralized online

store, and our our life becomes that less that less,

tied to our surroundings. And, it seems to me like there has to be there has to be a term for this. Right? Because this isn't capitalism as far as I'm concerned. And, you know, you hear a lot of people talk bad about capitalism because they're because they're communist, but then they point to stuff like this, but this isn't capitalism. If 97%

of Joann's stores were making a profit, why is it shutting down? That it it

it doesn't make any sense. Right? Under pure capitalism, somebody wants to shop there, the the business is doing successful, it'll grow and continue to operate.

This is the total inverse. So, I I mean, what do you call this? Is this capitalism? Is this perverted capitalism? Like, what what is going on here, and how are they getting away with it?

So capitalism in a pure sense is the best mechanism for wealth creation

and the ability to move between economic,

like,

levers Strata. Yeah. Yeah. If you wanna climb the strata, that's a great if you wanna climb that ladder, capitalism is definitely the best economic model we have, but it's just that, an economic model. It is math. Mhmm. And math in its purest form is gonna do what math does. Capitalism

is at all times, and no one likes when I say this, trying to get as close as it can to slavery. I don't mean to say that word. It's not a popular word, but the best economic model is free labor and infinite wealth creation. It is a person's job. It is our job. It's our regulator's job

to ensure

that the wheels don't come off and that we we suppress the passions

of infinite greed, of infinite wealth seeking, and of exploitation.

That's the job of regulators.

And we have failed largely in that endeavor, not necessarily because we have to overregulate our economy, but our economy can't be blind. For capitalism to work, it has to be a free market, and a free market has eyes wide open. Our market is blind.

Everything in private equity is happening behind closed doors. We have no ability to see whether or not they're using the same assets to collateralize multiple lines of debt.

We have no idea what they're doing behind closed doors. We would have known that they had trillions of dollars in adjustable rate loans if we were not blind.

The fact that not a single economist has made a video telling me I'm wrong about that terrifies me more than anything else I can say.

Truly. Because normally, hundreds of people come out of the wood

Stop.

Did you know

We'll do a pause there, Paul, or stop period.

Well, we can play more if you guys wanna hear more of that. I just wanted to get some of her explanation out so you could

hear her enthusiasm

and her

confidence and her knowledge.

Evidently, what has happened here

is a progression

that started in

I'm sure you won't be too surprised in the Clinton era

when they took

what was the what was the name of that was instituted back in the thirties after the depression? I can't think of the name of

the act in the throne.

Glass Steagall. Thank you very much.

Glass Stegall. Glass was one of the guys, by the way, that was the originator of the

Federal Reserve Act too. I believe he was from Oklahoma, big senator.

They fooled him also.

And, anyway,

they took the Glass Steagall Act away, which separated

investment banking from regular banking.

The way I understand it. Julie, was that you that gave me that answer?

No. That was Lisa.

Lisa. Okay.

Anyway,

if I understand it correctly, Glass Steagall put a wall

between investment banking and regular banking so they couldn't take the regular bank's money and go over

play stock market roulette with it.

And that has led to an awful lot of damage.

But at that point, when he did that, there were

what I think the term she uses, and I've heard other people use as guardrails.

They took they put guardrails up so that there was only so many people that could join in this bucket shop, in this private equity group.

And then it went a little bit longer and jump George w Bush widened

the guardrails

so they could put more people in there. And we got to Obama, and he just totally jettisoned everything, and now they have unlimited

amounts of people in these bucket shop with private equity groups.

So that's what's happening. Of course, you know, the the group this is going through and how they do things, and we don't care. What if they have to bankrupt and put forty, fifty thousand people? We don't care. That's somebody else's problem.

That mentality, we know where it comes from. We know who has it. We know who's doing this. It's just another scam.

It's just another

scam. They took basically what they did with the housing markets in o eight, the build up to the big short, and now they're going after

private business.

Basically, same thing, loading them up with debt on the back end, leverage buyout

at cheap loans. And,

now a few years down the line, they know damn well the interest rates are gonna go up eventually.

These people that are do this investment stuff are very savvy on the end of the bond market and all these trends that are going on. They're not

They may be heinous, but they're not stupid. Okay?

And, so I wanted to put that out there as,

again, while

the prices of metals are relatively cheap. I know I don't know what it is today. Gold was

over

3,000 about it. Got it to about $3,030,

and I don't know if y'all saw it last Friday. I popped over onto the gold windows. We were starting the show with Brent, and,

they had taken that and dropped it. I mean, just the typical

if you follow this stuff over all these years, you see it over and over and over again. So what happened? Friday morning,

gold opens,

and it takes a absolute

off a cliff

and drops 30 something dollars to where it's at $29.90

something. So over the weekend, we don't have to see people looking at a gold chart nervously.

Remember, Gold Crock this was Robbie Noel saying from Wall Street, gold climbs a wall of worry,

and they don't wanna be worrying about all this stuff in the world over the weekend and go look at the gold chart and see it above 3,000. That's a big psychological barrier.

So Friday morning, they get they pop that thing down 30 something dollars right below the $3,000

line. It's so predictable.

Yeah. You can just see it. You can anticipate it. You could probably make bets on it. K?

And come out pretty far ahead.

So, anyway, I that's what I wanted to get out this morning because quite frankly, with all the stuff that's been happening lately,

that's important, we I just hadn't had a chance to mention it

since last week. Okay? So if you wanna hear the whole interview, and she just loaded with about

forty five minutes of facts.

It's,

last Thursday the twentieth,

the American Journal, the third hour.

So anybody got any questions or comments on all that? What'd you think of that, Paul? You seen sounded like you knew a little bit about it.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I had I had heard about it before.

And she's absolutely right. I mean, the trickle down effect

that,

that is gonna happen because

most of these stores are anchor stores,

And the mini malls, the strip malls, and things like that, they've been stressed since COVID. I mean, they were under attack Oh, yeah. Absolutely. Four or five years. Sure.

And

if those commercial properties

lose their anchor stores,

not only are the mom and pop shops that are renting smaller spaces

in those malls gonna go belly up,

but

the

commercial,

management company,

a leasing company is gonna run into trouble because they're gonna have an unprofitable

property.

And guess who's getting ready to get in line to snap that up for dimes on the dollar?

If not, that's

Bunch or whatever. It's,

the same old up and down

thing that they

have been doing in different markets for so long. Folks are I mean,

please help me spread this message.

I I don't know of any other way to confront these people and maybe get rid of them and get rid of this than what we have here. I just don't know. Is there anybody else that's got any ideas? Am I missing something here?

Okay.

But I I know we need to get rid our lives, we need to get rid of this vermin,

these parasites, these parasites,

these absolutely

heartless,

moral less,

heinous,

hutzpah,

liars, murderers, thieves, and slavers. That's what they are. Not all of them, but

a a a sizable number.

So I don't know. It just frustrates me. I have to get up in the morning and hear all of that stuff about, oh, I'm a mayor of a town.

Yeah. We're we're what about democracy? Well, that's the hell with it. I'm shutting this movie theater down. They're showing a a picture about,

the Gazans over there, a documentary on it. We're shutting that down.

Oh, yeah. Okay, mister mayor. I hope they take his ass to court.

K? But he he may he may prevail. That's a ridiculous part of it. We're so skewed even with Trump. And, the good things that he's doing is just totally

overshadowed by this vermin that's attached to him.

It goes back so far all the way to the eighteen fifties. Folks, they've been playing in this Scofield dispensationalism,

Israel,

crap since the eighteen fifties.

Since before that?

Well, it was Darby before that, but they didn't glom onto Darby. They glommed on to Scofield,

one of his disciples. Talking about generally

generally speaking. You said maybe not all of them, and I'm here to tell you, in my opinion, that just about all of them.

Well, hell, Dan. I hate to agree with you, but I have to.

I do too. I hate to too, Roger, because some of them is my fault. Audience.

If you don't know this, Dan here is Jewish. Okay? Go ahead, Dan.

And and and I found myself being a banker when I didn't even know,

for thirty years, and it just never even occurred to me. But these equity people, one of

two or three ways

is the wicked and this banking cartel going to attempt to either bank they're gonna bankrupt the world if The United States and a few other countries start gaining their freedom. And if we'd be like good dogs and heal and somehow or other get back into the business of obeying

and pretending like we're for the people, you know, lying to everyone, then they'll back off.

They'll back off. That's it's they're about one they have nothing unless they control everything.

And if we break their cycle,

they have nothing

because they make nothing.

Please help us. And we have to break their cycle. We have to break their cycle. The only thing that keeps them in power is that they've been in power all this time. As soon as we interrupt that, just like the circuit of the light, and you you open that circuit, the light goes off, like, right away. I wouldn't be right away. But if we if we shut them down

enough worldwide, they will disorganized

and crumble, and they'll start fighting and eating each other. They already eat each other, but it's so rich. It doesn't matter.

Right. And

there's incredible

competition. I mean, they're for for us here, the little plebes.

You know, if there's $50,000

on the table, man, you're gonna get a lot of people excited and somebody's gonna steal that. Well, how what about when the whole world's at stake or there's trillions of dollars at stake? You don't think there's any infighting up there? Well, you'd be pretty naive to think that, I think.

Totally

inviting. And the thing is if you got 50,000 on the table, people will start competing

to try and win it mostly.

And a couple of people,

one out of a hundred or two or three out of a hundred at most, will attempt to swoop in and steal it. Yeah. We know that. Numbers are are reversed.

Up there, those numbers I mean, the rest of us will be bidding on the contract and trying to win it. And, you know, and if we don't win it, you know, we move on to the next thing.

Up there, those those ratios are reversed.

Dan,

correct me if I'm wrong here. You're fairly new to the program. You've been around a few months.

Is there I've never

found anywhere in history where anybody had these guys like we've got them right here.

Never.

Never. Not in two thousand years.

Not that I'm aware of. Not that I'm I don't I don't know what was happening at Grant's time.

Yeah. What who was the one who killed the Jackson? I don't know what was happening in his time. He probably had a decent crew, and I don't know really what was happening at the revolutionary time because everything is steeped in folklore,

and we granddize

our our founding fathers. I do too. I think they probably had about what we have.

Well, they had their problems and short shortcomings

too. Yeah.

They're human. Yeah. You're right. Problems. At at this particular juncture, I've never seen it like this.

Is it a ruse?

I mean, we just are ever vigilant for questions like that. I I don't think so. They

you you go back to to Colonel House at his statement to Woodrow Wilson at the very end of it. He says, well, if one or two people find out, we've figured out we've got plausible deniability.

Well, no. You don't, Colonel House, rolling over in your grave, I hope, are are are Not this time. Posted on a snowstorm. Because they told their story over and over. They kept telling their story, Roger.

The story's out.

We gotcha. We just have to see if they can see, oh, there is.

But we don't have enough numbers of people. We've got to have numbers of people. Nope. And and

and the problem

go ahead, Dan. Go ahead.

Well, equity is just one of the aspects.

The equity money was an obvious one because, like, they can just take loans and say, we decided to take loans. We're why are you taking adjustable rate loans? Oh, because we think we think we're smart.

They can do whatever they want. It's a free market, and there's that predator capitalism that she was referring to that's easy

to step into.

But if they didn't do that, Roger, they have

they have a a a 2.8

quad they have 3 quadrillion

dollars of, of,

derivatives.

The derivatives market is over 3 quadrillion.

I know. And that's what's propping everything up is that right there. Right.

Totally. And all they have to do is just adjust all they have to do is any one of them be like, you know, do what they did in trading places. Sell it. Sell.

You know? And then Mortimer and the other guy are stuck having their margin call. Everyone would be a total mess if just one of them guys said, okay. Let let's let's crush the world today.

And they they sell off their their deck their, derivatives that have no backing, that are based on a there's many ways they can go about this. They can just threaten countries to start open warfare with us. That's the only reason they stay in power is because they have a couple of countries.

Even if we shake them down a little bit and America gets away and let's say we talk England and they're getting away, they're like, okay. Well, we got, like, you know, another 42 countries on the Federal Reserve System. Let's get some of them shooting some missiles at at these guys and then and disrupting them. And until we root them out like rats and cockroaches,

they keep coming back because we don't interrupt their train.

Yep. It's like almost Because everybody goes,

oh, no. They're God's chosen people. You can't do that. Oh, no. They make all these excuses,

and they keep proliferating.

And now we're here.

We're here because of our soft spot in our heart. You know, pastor Peter used to say, we have our God's laws written on our heart, and they've got their God's laws written on their heart. And I've come to believe that. Okay? And so we just a little hard. I think. Yeah. That Christianity that that that gives all do and don't do that, turn to the other cheek. Although, that's not really always what he says. I mean,

twice in there, Genesis and in the New Testament,

he says, Jacob have I loved and Esau have I hated.

Okay. Well, evidently, God hates.

So

if God publicly says he hates you, don't you think you might publicly hate him?

Just ask him. Yeah. It might not be the best arrangement in that way. I totally get it. I totally get it. So And and and they keep breeding, and they keep making more, and their mores go to their schools. Their more don't go to private public schools. No. No. No. They're more stay within the family. Their more don't get divorced.

My whole family, I'm the only one who ever got divorced because I'm the only free spirit in here, and I realized I made a big mistake. But my my brother and two sisters,

they're still married this whole time, years and years later.

It's it's the same

it's the same thing. And, I'm proud of them for being that way, but it's just that they're not going anywhere until we crush them, Roger. It's takes a type of revolution, and our team right now is actually

grounding they're founding a way to get that done. I believe in our team, but I'm also aware that our team just like you were saying, those people, they're not stupid. They're not stupid. They know they serve two masters.

They know they serve two masters. There's another Jew in charge of treasury. Hello?

Yep.

Yep. So I yield I yield on all that. It's I I will before you yield off, I wanna ask you. Dan, did you ever go look up, brother Kapner Carpenter Kapner?

Nope. Nope. Oh, you need to go listen to. Supposed to.

Yeah. Well, I thought you would want to out of curiosity. His website is realJewnews.com.

Oh my god. I love that. Okay. I'm unplugged.

I gotta plug that in right now. And he's an orthodox.

He's Russian orthodox, and

he's very outspoken.

Let me get in front of the Federal Reserve Bank and

holding signs and this, that, and the other in Boston up by you one time.

I think you need to,

I think it is. Yeah. You need

to tap into brother Kepner.

You probably stay man, he's been doing these little short things for years that you could probably

stay on it for days and never watch them all. Anyway, you protect got it right here.

Yeah. He's a character. I got it. Oh. Yeah. Okay.

So I'd like to get speech a lot. Yes. I wanna hear from the audience. I'll stick I'll stick around. I'll be on the call if something Okay. If something comes up, I'll just Alright. Well, I'm sure glad the house. I'm just tickled to death you found us. Okay? Thank you. I Thank you, Linda. Love you.

Love everyone. This is lady Linda's

Louise forbearance for giving us Farris.

Yeah. That's so funny. Well, I love Linda too, and same with lady Jane. I hope Jane's listening. Jane, if you're listening, I love you, honey. Alright. I'm gonna dial out.

What a a thank you. Roger. Now I think that was Larry. Was it Larry?

No. It's Jesse.

Jesse. It was Larry, but go ahead, Jesse. Hey, Jesse. Sorry.

You know, we need to see this another angle. Is our people also doing this? And I've been traveling the last two years, all different state, different cities.

And,

you know, in the last five years,

they found out they've been stealing all the

property taxes.

$21,000,000,000,000

has gone down the hill. People think it's for education. They have a different account.

Every pension fund, they be baby boomers. I don't like calling that generation baby boomers. But, you know, there's a lot of people wealthy

and living still good life

on the cost of the rest of the population.

So it's not just the Jews. It's our people also the root of all the people that are in the world.

I I And, you know, you go understand that.

Totally. You go you go you go to Lansing,

Michigan

and Detroit suburbs,

and you see this

over and over and over thousands of million dollar houses.

And the only way you talk to them in the kind of phase

and they they live in a very good racketeer business

through different funds

and and leveraging like they just that program that we just heard right now. So everywhere you go, you go to Georgia, Knoxville,

you know, most people work and live in their pensions and and, and they have these beautiful houses.

And there's nothing wrong being rich or nothing like that. But when you haven't produced nothing and they live in the federal government, I don't I really don't have no pity for anybody losing their jobs because they've been living a good life for thirty year, forty years on the cost of the rest of the population.

So the only way I see this this

getting out of this, the economy has to collapse.

All those pensions and bank accounts has to disappear because this is the only way they will wake up. Because you try to explain to them you're hurting their own children, their own grandchildren, and they just don't understand. Now I'll finish with this. I have somebody as an executive

in a very prestigious

credit card, American press, Visa, whatever.

He's, he's the president of all the regional from Central, South America, North America.

And,

he gets upset every time he go to Mexico

and try to put,

your product as they call it, in other words, debt credit card,

system in Mexico,

and Mexico always pushing them out. They're not able to do what they have done in Brazil, Central America, Norway.

And he and he loses now, and he's been doing that for ten years. Maybe they have something right. They don't wanna indent their population Interesting. Compared to us. So it's very Well, that's interesting. A lot of things going

on. So this is sad. It's sad that it's the people. My people for lack of knowledge, but I think they have forgotten God. They have forgotten their family.

They have forgotten the love of their neighbor. They just don't understand they're hurting. Every time they get this debt and leverage, they're hurting their neighbor, but they just don't get it.

They don't get it, Jesse.

And I I agree with you now. The but the basis of this system that everyone is,

almost relegated to using because they're not in the, too many other, healthy alternatives is this debt monetary system.

And it does I think it influences

people even psych subliminally.

And they don't understand its influence on them because they don't understand how the system works, and all they know is they gotta get as much money as they can to pay their bills so they can keep their collateral while their neighbor next door loses his house, his car,

maybe gets a divorce because of it, and he loses everything.

All that comes from the fact that we're we're the debt.

We're in the debt monetary system. It's always eating itself.

That causes a lot of this even though it's not on the surface.

Yes. It's evil. And that's why you see Jesus Christ turn those tables and all that. But,

you you go to every town. Most people know this.

And Main Street is dead. Every little town of 5,000,

20, 30, a hundred thousand Sure. Is dead. But as soon

as somebody discover this town because it has a good scenery,

a good lake, or a nice beautiful mountain,

and then they just start promoting

it basically to the baby boomers,

retiree,

amenities,

that town, that little mansion,

you you start seeing popping up new cafes,

little restaurants, because they're all catering to them. And then that area,

the native can't they have to leave or they can't buy it because all the prices you see, they're remodeling those new little houses or make new houses. And there's pockets in every,

state that way. And I've seen it over and over and over especially because I'm Yeah. More servant this time. And it's just incredible how that town that nobody knew about ten years ago or twenty years ago, selling pot, but there's nothing. Nobody's producing nothing. Man, frankly, nothing.

It's just catering to that. And that's why we have all this derivative and all this mutual funds. It's just a racket to your business. Mhmm. Well, there you get my rant from today.

Okay. And Walmart

moves into town and everybody goes bankrupt. You see, that's one of the nice things about down here. In South America is we still have that old formula going of, you know, a little store,

on on on the street, and then they live in the apartment above the store and all the all these little,

well, in Spanish, if you've got a store, it's

at the end. So it's a if it's a meat store, it's a carne seria or

a vegetable store or whatever. And, you've still got that richness of a culture,

because of all those small businesses down here. I appreciate it. It's one of the reasons I like living down here.

We don't have a per se Walmart.

We've got some Yes. Walmart wannabes,

but we don't have any of those down here. They they they do have them occasionally around, I think. Larry, you were next, buddy. What you got, on your mind?

Yeah. I was just gonna say that you're talking about god's chosen people before.

And, you are considered to be god's chosen

people if you believe that Jesus is the son of god

and he's the savior of the world.

And another thing is there's a lot of talk about the new world order. That's just a code word

for the Zionist

belief and desire that they're gonna rule the world, and the Gentiles are going to serve them.

It's called the messianic

age.

They refer to it as the messianic

age.

When they own everything in the world and each one of them has 200 of us as slaves.

The messianic age. I've seen books written on it by rabbis. Okay?

So,

alright. Who else got something oh, go go ahead, Larry. Let me just ask, like, 90% of the Christian churches out there in the world

have been influenced by Zionism,

and they're really promoting

a Christian form of Zionism

Oh, well, that's where all this that's where a lot of this

Israel stuff's coming from. A lot of these people that are so wrapped up in Israel,

Satan's sandbox, I refer to it as.

They're on this dispensationalism

thing because they've been fed all this crap out of that damn Scofield Bible

that that they use as the Bible for the Southern Baptist Seminary in Dallas and other ones. And that's the one that's corrupted all the World Council of Churches.

Israel, the white caps, the second all that

stuff.

And Exactly. And

I just you know, I mean, there's the Jesus says five times in Matthew

24, I believe,

do not be deceived.

Five times he says it, Larry.

K?

So Yep.

Most most Christians are deceived,

and the preachers that are preaching to them have been deceived.

And it's just gonna take a lot of education to get them out of their spell.

Well, that's our whole deal in this education. It's education on the law. It's education on

on what they've done in history. It's education on all these things.

That's on our back.

Sorry.

But it is.

Because we seem to have the only straight path out there that I know of.

If I'm wrong, somebody tell me another anybody that's got another program where you can achieve what you can achieve with us with no confrontations,

no heavy

expenditures,

no no no great knowledge of of, of law that you've gotta have. You gotta have a little bit. But who else can do what we can do with with literally nothing?

Nobody that I know of.

Roger, I like what, Larry has said. Most people on the spelling, you know, when you read the

the original means enchantment Oh, yeah. On their spell. And that's the reason Most of these baby boomers, they're under a spell because of famakia and many other things. But but, yes, maybe how do we snap them out of there,

removing famakia, I guess.

It's just one thing that I I like. I I got a good thing and a bad thing. The good thing is that,

Kennedy at HHS

is, floating the idea of no more pharmaceutical

commercials.

We're one of the only two countries in the world, the other being New Zealand, that allows pharmaceutical

companies to advertise on television.

So, hopefully, that'll be gone. And then on the bad side, Bobby Kennedy makes some remark about the

Israeli

holocaust

in referring to Gaza.

It just just or

or October 7.

So I don't know. It's like Harrison said, who what age child do they have you with,

on film?

So I I don't know if that's the case,

but the Kennedy family shouldn't be too much in bed with these people, but

they force their way into everything. So how do they do that? How have they done this?

Bankruptcy, taking over the country, making us all their slaves

to form the whole basis of the structure of the government,

administrative state agencies,

and the whole basis of the monetary system. That's not that's this is a little little piece of information we have is so insignificant.

It just totally affects those two things right there. The whole origin of the damn credit oriented debt monetary supply

and the whole origin

of what we call the deep state, which is the administrative

state

of however the hell many agencies

there are up there now.

Right, John? So who yes.

Hello.

Yes. It's sketch. And,

on the video that you played,

the one term and concept that came to mind

that they've been doing for a long time, and that's

asset

stripping.

Oh, yeah. Asset stripping.

Assets. Uh-huh. Well, we're unfortunately, we gotta strip a few of our assets here, Sketch, and Paul's gonna be the one that does it. So,

Paul, get out and get the strip mining gear on.

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Yeah. So,

because the reason I wanted to get this information out here, you can see,

you know, what's the old, Bob Dylan

line? You don't need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows?

You you remember 02/2008

on the housing market?

This is gonna be 02/2020

something in the private equity market,

and it's probably gonna be worse.

And

the other thing is there's so many all the things they didn't take care of in 02/2008 because we were able to kick the can down the road a little bit farther.

But now that just accentuates,

and that's built into a whole another area of businesses.

And this is what Trump is trying hold on, Bruce. This is what Trump is trying to set up and avoid.

This may be

where if he does

jack the price of gold

up to 15 or $20,000,

it still wouldn't cut into about a quarter of that debt,

but it would maybe

allow them to refloat the dollar a bit without these things happening.

You got this group over here that is their whole system that they've been working under for ninety something years

is eroding out from under them. It's it's crashing. It's being exposed.

They've got to have a world war. They've got to have it with Russia, evidently.

And all this is leading up to that. It's just a real important element.

I wanted to bring it out and discuss it. Bruce, what have you what have you got as an addition here today?

Well, you gotta go back to basics.

If you,

got a contract with somebody and they dishonor the contract in another way,

it's a boy contract. And second of all,

we're dealing and trading with Federal Reserve notes, which is a debt, and you can't pay a debt off with another debt. No. You discharge it. All you do is discharge it. Yeah.

Exactly. But they don't do that.

They won't let you discharge it. They'll go ahead and and pay and bill you left and right.

So they're they're in dishonor of the contract, so it's a void.

Well, I I I don't know if I discharge a death. They keep charging me for it.

When I went to the store yesterday

pardon me?

I said don't pay it.

Well, I can't pay it. I

well, I can't pay it. I have to use the Federal Reserve notes because that's the legal tender here.

I just discharge it.

That's a fraud.

That's a debt. Okay.

Okay. Well, everything's a fraud. Bruce is no big no big

secret you're unveiling here. And it's all a fraud because these people that are the center behind all of it, because all they do is use fraud. They can't achieve what they're doing any other way but use fraud.

So I'm just begging you folks. I'm trying to you know? I I I get so frustrated with what we've got here and how powerful it

is. And, damn, you just can't get to folks. Very rarely can you get to folks on this.

That's how bad the world's gone, how far they've gone on that side. Either they're scared, they don't understand it, they can't think, they don't wanna understand it, they feel threatened.

Whatever the case is,

we we don't see the percentage of response that we should.

And again Hey, Rogers. We don't know them

William. Hey, William. We don't know them worth a crap, but they sure know us. Hey, William. What you got going, man?

Oh, I was doing a little research on the slaughterhouse cases.

Yeah. We were talking about it a few weeks ago.

Yeah.

It we talk about incorporation,

the federal government's incorporated, but, there's different types of incorporation.

And I found out that there's this incorporation of the Bill of Rights,

that they've been steadily doing over the years, basically incorporating the Bill of Rights,

into into state law.

So the slaughterhouse cases, I guess, set up the precedent that there was, you know,

different,

state and federal jurisdictions,

which we know.

And that the the Bill of Rights was a federal limitation on federal powers,

basically, that

Correct. The states

can make laws, and the Federal Bill of Rights

wouldn't necessarily apply.

And and so now they've been incorporating the Federal Bill of Rights at the state level. So I'm kinda wondering,

do you do you kinda feel like that's an acknowledgment

that the state

themselves are federal entities

or federal, you know, political entities? Well, you know, I think this isn't this what Devin discovered when he wrote his handbook on for nationals?

Because I had never heard of that theory before on how,

how they've incorporated

only part of the Bill of Rights.

In other words, you've only got you don't have you don't have a

the access to, I think, at seven

because it talks about a common law trial in there.

So the federal people being

evidently don't have access

to six, seven, eight, nine, and 10 or something like that. They've got limited access to two. They're trying to take away our access to one,

and they are around the world. They hadn't got us yet. Maybe Trump will salvage that. But is that what you're talking about, William?

Yeah. Well, they they incorporate it, I guess, they incorporate it into the fourteenth amendment.

It's kind of the way I read it. So, like Yeah. Yeah. Right. Right. Under the fourteenth, you've got access to it, but you've only got partial access on some of them and no access to the others as a federal citizen is the way I understand it.

Is there an alternate word there?

Hold on a second, please. I'm having a discussion with William.

We're listen. I'm getting emails on all these interruptions and stuff and the,

the confusion that it's caused around here. Please

please follow our protocol,

please.

K? Just go ahead, William. Saying that you're right about what you're you're saying right now. It is personal. Thank you.

Okay. Go ahead, William.

There's been a few cases lately

okay. There's been a few cases here lately, like, this District of Columbia versus Heller

in 02/2008

on the gun rights issue, you know, and,

one just a couple years ago in New York.

And and some some more, you know, current ones.

And, basically, they're

they're upholding that the states

basically, the federal

citizens have access to the second amendment is what they upheld,

you know, with the with the New York one and, and the Miller one. So I don't know. I was just trying to wrap my head around it because Yes. But the You know? They don't have access to it without going through a licensed dealer, do they?

Right.

So do they have full access to it? It seems to me no.

They've got partial access to create an illusion that they have full access.

Because, Mark, you know, he was he was trying

to find some kind of delineation

where,

you know, the the the states were,

federal,

basically.

And we know Yes. From our our studies, the smallest state and the largest state are different.

But then they they they conflate the two,

you know,

in these rulings, they'll use,

you know, the largest state and the smallest state interchangeably.

Well, they're under the political subdivision of this damn bankruptcy. Every one of those judges,

excuse me,

takes an oath to uphold the constitution of The United States.

Not of America,

The United States.

I've seen it twice,

Clarence Thomas's oath and

the the the

screwy woman that's up there now, Amy Cone and Barrett.

Right.

And then I kinda got into this I got into this territorial

incorporation doctrine,

because it was it came out of the insular cases.

Correct. Which is where American Samoa came from.

Right. And they were talking about how,

territory is incorporated if there's plans for it to become a state or it's destined for state. Ah,

okay.

And then that's it. That's interesting. Well, see, I've never heard that before. That's very interesting.

And Puerto Rico is unincorporated

because it's not designated for statehood.

Oh, you wanna hold it. Are you sure it's unincorporated?

Yeah. It's my understanding that American Samoa and Swains Island

are the only unincorporated

territories in the system.

If it it says on here, if they're if it's assassinated, if it's on if it's on a path

for statehood,

the constitution

will apply in full force as it becomes incorporated.

And examples include Alaska and Hawaii.

Before they became states.

Right. And these unincorporated territories, these are territories that are not on a path to statehood where only fundamental

constitutional guarantees apply.

Oh, gosh. Well, Boris Boris Boris with us? Let me see Bori. Bori's Puerto Rican. Bori, are you with us?

Must not be with us today. And there and there's there's also what they call organized and unorganized

territories,

and that that determines

what law you're up under.

So if, you're organized, you're up under US law, and so you'd have a US district court. If you're unorganized,

you're not up under the The US legal system.

Uh-huh.

So the only unorganized

permanently inhabited,

territory is American Samoa.

Okay. Gotcha. So there are degrees there are degrees. Yes, Paul?

I think the,

I think the misconception about Puerto Rico comes from,

the fact that that is the address

of a lot of the incorporated

US entities.

Lot of them are incorporated in Puerto Rico, but it doesn't mean the corporate

Puerto Rico is a corporation.

I think there's tax benefits in Puerto Rico. There definitely are that.

That's why a lot of the Bitcoin people went down there.

Mhmm.

Well, I don't know, William. That's news to me. I'm it it

I my understanding is

American Samoa and Swain's Island

class by themselves. I guess you just differentiated

that through layers of options and deceptions.

But deception is nothing new to these people.

It's their standard fare.

Right.

I think and when we talk about the federal government incorporated, I just wonder,

you know, it's not business incorporation like most people think about, like, you know, you get a LLC or some kind of business. Right.

It could be territorial incorporation. It could be incorporation of the constitution.

There's all these different types of incorporation.

Yeah.

K.

Yikes. I

boy, this stuff can really get complex when you dig down, and I never would have even thought this all those years ago.

But, I like to try and keep it simple.

I got this appeal, you know, my on my tax issue, and it looks like it's an in person hearing.

And I just wanna have all my ducks in a row and my understanding of

the state of Georgia's relationship to The United States and When the vice president. When is your when is your hearing?

I think it's August 5, I wanna say. Oh, you got a ways. You know, this is what I'm gonna suggest to you and Michael Nail. It's something we floated before, but nobody's ever, to my knowledge, go followed through.

Why don't you write the secretary of state

and explain to them that you're in a,

an administrative,

tussle with the state of Georgia and ask them if they would send you verification that you're a national.

Okay.

And let's see how they respond.

I wouldn't I wouldn't have expected the Biden bunch to do anything about it, but this new bunch may.

Okay.

And I'm gonna try and see if if Michael joins us again next time he does to suggest that to him also.

All the legal stuff has gone under the bridge, but he still got this tax situation there with Alabama saying, we don't care if you're a resident or not. We're gonna tax you. Oh, excuse me. Okay? So that may come into play in helping him if they if that's a legitimate,

idea that's been floated that they will respond to that to somebody in a court case or maybe in an administrative

battle, William.

Yeah. I was thinking, you know, if if if I put in my letter, you know, that the state of Georgia is a political subdivision of The United States.

And if they don't rebut that,

It stands. They don't try to deny that, then it would stand. And Yeah. I'm not I'm not a

member of that political class. So, you know, whatever the state of Georgia does is not

has no bearing on me. No. I'm a legal person.

No.

And we've we've got so many of you good, really good students, and I'm so proud of you for

taking on the mantle and and and doing your homework and learning this stuff and making it part of you and all all that you've done. And it helps

me and my state of mind. If this thing doesn't break in my lifetime,

hopefully, there's some of you guys that are gonna continue it, and it'll have impact down the line. Who was saying, hey, Roger there? Roger. You was calling me, Roger?

Boris. What about Puerto Rico? Is it incorporated

or not?

No. It it's an a state

it's not associated, but it's not incorporated.

It's like, associated

with The US, but it's not that's why I didn't say IRS is there for you.

Well, there's some people that say it is. I've been hearing that for years. I don't I don't know.

I know one thing that you're gonna need to get an external.

We're about to get an external revenue service next week, I think mister Lutnick says.

Maybe they put it there in Puerto Rico too.

Well, they might. Don't know. Yeah. Yeah. That'd be a tariff thing. They'd probably have it in DC.

Okay, Bory. Thanks. Yes. Who is Roger? Okay. It's Dave.

Somebody could check the Duns And Bradstreet for a, you know, incorporation.

Yeah. That's about Well, the thing is

It can't be unincorporated

like American Samoa

because they don't have the same set of rights. The Puerto Ricans don't own their land. That doesn't determine who sits in the legislature.

All those things don't apply to Puerto Rico to my knowledge.

I think there's a district court in Puerto Rico, isn't there?

Well

well, I'm there probably is.

Somebody can check. You guys are the one with access to the computers. Yes.

Yeah. Question for Bory and a question for William.

Is Bory first of all, is Bory from Puerto Rico? Is that why you asked him that question? Yes.

To my knowledge, yes. Does

does he know if if the IRS has headquarters

in Puerto Rico?

That seems to be going around in the patriot community.

That's my question to him. And then I was wondering if, William can,

go over

what his

research discovered about the the US federal

government being a corporation

and how a lot of students use that in a negative way.

And it's that's not really you know, a lot of a lot of students like to give the analogy that the United States government is like any other corporation like McDonald's.

But I think William uncovered something

that that's not really what it's talking about. I was wondering if William would go over that again.

There's a there's a whole lot of corporation.

No. William

There's a there's a whole bunch of crap that the Patriot community is wrong on, Larry. Go ahead. And it has been for the thirty something years I've been in it. Go ahead, William.

Yeah. If you just I mean, I hate Wikipedia to an extent, but if you just Wikipedia incorporation,

and there's about seven or eight different types of incorporation, and business incorporation is one of them.

Mhmm. But I don't think that's the context of of the corporation that that people think it is with the federal government.

I think it's incorporation of rights or it's incorporation of

citizenship or it's incorporation of territories. I don't think it's

necessarily a business incorporation.

I I don't believe it's in the same category as American Samoa.

K? No. No.

So,

alright. What else do we have? The floor. That that's all I have. Well, thank you. Trying to

I have been trying to spread the message, but the pushback is real.

Yes. And I And, people have gotten into this. Well, Trump's the savior he's in now, and they start

getting recalcitrant

and sitting back in their lazy chair.

And,

they they

it's just,

sorry.

Yeah. It frustrates me.

Yes.

Hey. Hey, Roger. It's David. I

from Alabama. How are you doing? I'm good.

Just frustrated as usual. How are you doing?

Good. Yeah. I was listening in in your suggestion about,

you know, addressing,

eight US code 1502

to see if we could get some kind of,

acknowledgement of the national status

with that certificate of nationality. Well, you know, Kaye and I, we like to take action. Well, I've I've gone down that path.

You have

I leveraged,

my interaction with the election division,

with the state of Alabama

to see if I could get the Department of State to

send a certificate of nationality

to them and then request it by a public records request to get my hands on it. Because in that in that code,

it's specific

between

the agencies, right?

It doesn't referencing giving it to the requestor.

So

I did that. I

formally asked them using the verbiage right in 1502

and to send that certificate of nationality

to,

state of Alabama.

And that was a while ago. And I waited some time to hopefully allow it to occur. And then I,

did the public records request with both. I did the FOIA with the Department of State and then,

with the state of Alabama to see if I could get my hands on it while I'm still waiting.

And I I've heard crickets.

So I don't know if they did it or not, but I I officially requested it, you might say.

Okay. Well, that's the first time I know of anyone doing that, Dave. So thank you for coming forward and letting us know.

And

it it kind that was kind of my suspicion, but I was hoping maybe with a new bunch up there. I know they've still got piles of crap on their desk,

with this transition, but I was hoping it'd be a little bit different. So

maybe if we would get a couple

And you know that Roger. I I

I yeah. No. I understand. The national status, you know, is in your heart and your mind and

gotta walk, walk and so forth, but you know when you explain this to people, the biggest

hurdle

is getting them to first believe that it's real

and Yes.

People want something in their hand or to show them something.

And,

so, you know, if we can get our hands on that certificate of nationality, that'd be huge,

in my opinion. Well, you know

go go ahead, Dave. I'm sorry. We got a little lag here. I'll just I'll just say it would it would open the door

and get past that disbelief factor

that people have, and and I think that would that's kind of a huge hurdle, I think,

when you're trying to just

You know, one way to maybe approach that is to take them straight to the thirteenth amendment

and say, well, if if that's the case, if that isn't the case, who was this amendment written for?

There was no fourteenth amendment yet for six months. There was no federal citizenship.

Who is this for?

So maybe try and challenge their intellectual intellectual abilities.

Folks, I I listen. They've just done such a good job on Buffalo and the people and getting them intimidated

over in a corner with their knees knocking, shaking, scared they're gonna get some damn SWAT team or something come in on them. It's just ridiculous.

I mean, that's not ridiculous that they feel that way, but it's ridiculous. You can't seem to pull them out of that with basic logic.

But, you know, again,

we're not trying to convince people anything. We're trying to put information in front of them, see if they react or it registers with them. If it does, we feed feed them.

That's the only way. You can't pour somebody into doing this, then they'll never study, then they'll never follow-up. Okay. I sent your damn affidavit. Leave me alone. Well, they're not gonna turn a finger to study or embrace the op, information or anything else. And so,

therefore, nothing changes. So, therefore, it's a mood action. You've kinda wasted your time in theirs, haven't you?

Well, that's not the way to approach this.

You know, the I think the education

system doesn't teach people to think it's generationally. Of course. It's people to just regurgitate,

memorize and regurgitate.

And it's I mean, that's a huge another hurdle that people,

you know, they're not their brains aren't haven't been developed to think

through just to memorize.

As general partners said, when we were studying Freud,

they were studying Pavlov. Myrka, what was your

injection here?

I was gonna ask, is he did he try Secretary of State of the State or Secretary of State of DC?

Well, the DC the state can't issue you a noncitizen

national certificate.

Right. Yeah. You know?

Yeah. What I was asking.

Yeah. If you read this,

eight US code 1502, it's referring to,

well It's the test c person. Yeah. I mentioned that last week.

Right. Right.

Yeah. That was brought up some time ago. I've I've been pursuing that for a couple months now trying to get hands on.

Well, these these a while ago. These things, like, linger in the back of my mind, you know, and they'll something will

motivate. It comes to the front of my mind or just take it back there and that this is one of them.

Who was the female that was trying to say something? Hold on. There was a female mumbling something a minute ago. Who was that?

You don't wanna own up to it. Okay. Julie. Is that Julie? I think it is. Yeah.

What is title eight fifteen o two? Is that just for that applies to federal citizen?

It's supposed to apply to nationals. What's the exact site on that,

Dave?

Title eight

fifteen o one section?

You can read that. It's very short, but if you go to Cornell

Cornell Law School website and just you can Google eight US code

1502,

and it's basically

it's very short. It just,

indicates,

that you

can essentially get the US Secretary Of State to send a certificate of nationality

for you if you're,

a national,

to another agency, associate agency,

there's some kind of administrative

process going on that would help you. That's the way I interpret it.

Okay. Well, you know, we we maybe as the occasions

as the occasions arise, we might ought to shoot them a letter on that.

And maybe if they get enough of them, they'll react. Go ahead, Julie. Sorry.

I was just gonna say, you know, I've I've I've figured it out that, you know, being removed from the voter

registration

here,

in

my state here. They've acknowledged

the fact that I am no longer

a federal citizen, so I can't vote in the state here anymore. And I haven't done anything with that. I I thought, you know, maybe I'll just keep this and use this as a weapon. Even my if the IRS comes after me federal wise, I'll say even my state has acknowledged myself

not being a federal citizen anymore. They've removed me from the voter board voter roles.

Well, you should be able to vote locally. That's the problem.

They can say, yeah. You can't vote in federal part of that. That's fine.

But all politics is local, and I wanna be involved in

county commissioners and judges and mayors and

whatever other offices you're talking about. I've they got a direct bearing on me. I wanna participate in that, and I've got every right to. Those are my state officials.

So don't forget the other side of the argument here.

Right. No. I I I I do plan on fixing that

because they did take that away from from me wrongfully. So but I still could use that better that they removed me,

acknowledging that I am a federal no longer a federal citizen.

So

Are you in Fairfax are you in Fairfax County?

Yeah. I am.

I just saw a clip of a lady this morning on on,

Harrison.

Really sweet mom. She had she had two children. She had one of them up on her arms, and she was talking to the school board, I think, or the county commission,

about

they have,

decided in your county

to go ahead and start teaching gender studies to kindergarten.

And the they've got one child that's

child that's about to go into kindergarten next year, and she really got up there, I guess, was on TikTok, did a really good job. Very calm,

very collected,

very well, we've got this big decision to make. And they went out in the county, and they did a,

a survey, and almost everybody in the county was against it. But yet you people voted 16 to nothing to move it forward.

Yep.

This is Lip Tar City here.

It's a that's some real democracy there, I think, isn't it?

It's it's awful here.

It's all but, you know, I do believe these things are, rigged.

Yeah.

Roger? Yeah. Well, they're gonna fight every way. I was trying to get any of their agenda crap,

yank out of there. Bruce, you're second. Samuel was first.

Samuel?

Yeah. Yeah, Roger. One of the things that I I find helpful to prove this,

especially if you're gonna send your notices to the AG, etcetera.

I, there's that two page document on court cases.

I think that's excellent.

Oh, yeah. Proving the status. Property. Right.

Proving the status as a national.

Yeah.

Well, you don't have to prove it. They can't object to it. It's your choice.

You know, you know, I take Brent for for saying, well, they don't know what a national is. I don't wanna give him an excuse. So when I send my notice to the aid too, who's gonna get a copy of their case

law? It's in the it's in the it's in the federal laws. They are affected

elected official. They have a duty to know or should have known. And when it was brought up, if they didn't know, they need to go damn research

it. That's their duty. Know anything, they know American Samoan, and that's about it, Roger. I would guess that's probably 99.9%.

They're Ron they're Ron Ayers listeners.

Ron Avery listeners. Who was,

we had, Samuel and who Bruce?

Bruce. Yeah.

I got a problem with voting.

If you're a national and you vote for a,

US citizen,

you cross the line.

To me, you don't need to be voting for a US citizen.

Okay.

That's Bruce's side. I'd say all politics is local. You can influence locally. You make your choice.

K?

So who else has got something to add to the party or start a new party? Roger.

In in the California state constitution,

you know,

the elector

is the person. Voting

is

the act.

Correct.

And that's the way it's supposed to be. They flipped that too.

Yeah. K. Hey. We've covered all this ground before.

What is what is a Yogi Berra's

definition of deja moo? Have you heard of that, Samuel?

Samuel, you ever heard All over again.

No.

No. I've he says it's deja mu. I've heard this BS before.

So so

Pleasure. Where else? Yes. Larry.

Yeah. What when Dave was talking, what,

what was he talking about that this the code? Was it 5

USC and it was something?

15O2,

I believe.

15O2.

US code 15O2.

8

okay. Yeah. Give it again, Dave.

Yep. 8 US code 15O2.

Yeah. There you go.

Yeah. And, you know, they they refer

to proceedings of a foreign state.

So that's kind of another challenge,

because Well, no. They know they know you're talking about when you say I'm in Alabama. They know that's foreign to DC.

You know, well, years ago, one of our guys in in,

the,

Atlanta group there, he used to replace wind he had a windshield shop, you know. And him and his wife were had driven up to DC for something. And they were coming back to Atlanta, and he said as they went through into Virginia,

there's one of those big green road signs there that says you're leaving The United States.

Because you are.

Yeah.

DC is a nation state. It's not part of The United States.

Correct.

What, Larry? Roger, you're aware that in fifteen o two, they

they say American

capital a

national.

A what in fifteen o

they what They use American National in fifteen o two. Oh, do they? Oh, okay. Well, that's good. That's very valid. That's very valid. That's very specific.

Yeah.

I think you were,

I mentioned it last week, Roger,

and, you thought it was only for American Sanoans.

And I mentioned it was for American

National.

Yeah. Well, that's a little more legitimate.

And,

I hope that we'll have people if unfortunately, well, I hope you don't get into these damn court situations.

You shouldn't be in there.

But should you get in there inadvertently,

maybe we can avail ourselves of this,

hey, mister secretary of state. Can you please send this to the court

according to four 15 o two?

Yeah. Roger, they're they're notorious

for giving you a remedy, not telling you when and how to use it. Right?

But then when you don't use it because you're not aware and when and how,

like, and maybe in this case,

they can overrule because you didn't use your remedy.

Well

And I think 15 o two could be a remedy, but

until somebody tries it, you know? Well, we won't we won't ever know until a number of people try it and see what kind of response we get.

I'll So hopefully

I'll post it. Mention it. Okay. Thank you, Dave. If you get anything in from them, please let us know.

And it they they

they're specific about it. It's up to their discretion. So, of course, they've got it wide open that

they come up just by any reason.

Well, don't forget in the policy statement there, and I think it's really aiming at American Samoans

in the policy statement, the certificate of noncitizen nationality.

They they make that statement. All US citizens are US nationals. But

some US please let me finish. I got you got the pants cooking. That's what it was. But some but dollars.

You want would you like to talk?

Sorry, Roger. I do have something to say, but I got sidetracked and stuck in somebody else.

Okay. You just kinda wait. I'll try and get to you. Okay? That certificate of non citizen Oh, yeah. Nationality

yes, Bory?

I was I checked it out for you at, Puerto Rico is in

in is not incorporated.

Yeah. It's not. Oh, it's in

any way, shape, or form? Do you have a district court down there?

A soft,

US sovereignty do not is not the same as a US citizen.

Puerto Rico is located as a government operated,

with a degree of autonomy, but

it's still subject to federal law.

Oh, there you go. The residents of Puerto Rico What's the Puerto Rico, they're citizens, but do not voting in the Congress.

Okay? Well, there's a difference in American Samoa's. They're they're not in in,

controlled by US law. Puerto Rico is.

Okay. Now let me go back to where I was a second ago.

All US citizens are US nationals, but only some nationals

are not US citizens.

Something to that effect. And the rest of that statement,

to me, is pointing to American Samoans.

And then at the bottom, it says we've had a request for these documents, but because of the cost of paper and ink, we don't do it anymore. Go get a passport,

basically.

And I think that's all aimed at the American Samoans, but I may be wrong. K? Now there are two or three people who want to say something

who did one of you step forward?

Roger,

when I read 15 o two, I don't have it in front of me right now.

That

stipulation that they put in there that it's sort of up to them

to decide whether they're gonna give you that or not is based upon proof.

So you have to prove it.

Alright. Send them a copy of the pleadings.

I I sent them a copy of my affidavit.

Yeah. I would think that should prove it. Right? Yep. I I sent them the letter, copy of my affidavit, and I,

sent some educational information about National just so they they didn't know. That ought to be interesting feedback.

How long ago was that, Dave?

I can look up the data letter, but it's been a couple months. I wanted to wait to let it kind of,

digest.

And then,

again, I I've already submitted,

a FOIA I think it was a FOIA with the, Department of State and then,

public records request with state of Alabama, and I just didn't get anything. So I'm gonna follow-up with them and see why

they haven't responded

in any way, shape, or form.

Okay. You might write them a second request and see if they respond to that.

Very interesting. Might be some way if they'll do it,

if this is operable, maybe something we can really use in some of these

court situations that are so damn frustrating,

like Michael Nail there in in in in Burnt Iredale. Yeah. Samuel?

Yeah. Yesterday, we talked about this gentleman, I forget his name, that's been

incarcerated, and he is a national.

Somebody should try this in his case. Hold it. That would be fantastic. He wasn't a national when he was originally incarcerated. That's the problem. It's not exactly It wouldn't hurt to try it, though. You know?

Well, I I guess that's right. So

And in and in some cases, which seems weird, but doing something three times seems to make a difference as well.

That's sacred geometry.

Okay. There's some couple other people who want to say something. Who's got something to add?

Hey, Roger. This is Carl.

Hey, Carl.

Hey.

So I'm kind of on the subject, but kind of off the subject,

but, obviously, it has to do with international.

If we look at

what and this it goes back to your voting,

and it goes

to banking. It kind of goes to everything. If I use my passport

to bank with, they don't like it.

The banks get very bitter about it because it doesn't show the address.

Alright.

You know? Okay. Alright. You know what you did, Carl? Here's what you do. Yeah. Go to your where you go get a fishing license

and go buy you a fishing license.

It'll have your address on it, then you can show them that. The names will match. There'll be an address. Everybody should be happy.

K.

I was also thinking and this is something I was gonna apply for today and do and see what it works for me.

Joe Lustica

mentioned his

trademark

and using it on his name.

If you trademark your name, typically, you have a sole proprietorship,

which is essentially what your your,

de facto name is.

Your your straw man name is.

But if you sign up as a sole proprietorship

and then you put the trademark on it

and you're doing it for banking purposes,

then you're allowed

and this is all theory at this point. It's something I'm I'm working on,

but it will allow you to

show that you're a business

and have the freedoms. Plus,

you have the trademark on the name so they can't

abuse the name, whether it be tickets for

whatever it might be. And I know you hate tickets. We all hate tickets, but we have to deal with them.

So

just something I was thinking of.

Okay. I don't know much about it. Go ahead and explore on it. I don't have any comments on it. Anybody got any comments on that?

I mean, Joe does stuff I've never heard of before, so

good good on him. You know?

Because they all seem to work.

Nobody got any comments on that?

Okay, Carl. We'll forge ahead and let us know how it works.

Forging. Who who else is you're welcome, Carl. Who else is out there? I got a comment.

Question or comment? We'll take a comment. Who's this?

This is Sketch. Can you hear me?

Well, yeah. It just doesn't sound like you because you're not on that speakerphone. Go ahead. Okay. Okay. Yeah. Just a minute.

Just a minute. Let's see.

No. It's better on the phone here. You don't have to do that.

Do nothing.

Speak.

Just

sketch.

What's he doing now? Sketch. He sounded fine. Just go. Get on with it. Sorry.

Sorry.

Joe Luska.

Is it your opinion?

And I was there's a different ways to ask this question,

and I was trying to figure out the best way.

Is it your opinion that,

maybe this is better for tomorrow? Joe Luska

won his cases because of the quo warranto,

or was it because

he was a national?

And

what do you think?

Combination.

I think it's a combination of the two. Isn't the quo warranto a common law writ?

I think so. Yeah. Yeah. He does. Well, I I I like you know, I know Barnes is using them.

But, it seems to me if it's a common law writ, you'd have much better chance of having it take effect if you were a national and not a federal citizen.

Right.

Well, I just I think that,

I agree with your opinion, and,

appreciate you, and I might ask it tomorrow with Mark.

Alright.

Alright. It's fine. Okay. Thank you, Sketch. You sound better on the phone, by the way.

Okay. Who else is next?

Roger.

There's Joan. Yes, ma'am. Hey, Roger. Yeah. Okay. Thirteenth amendment. You know how it says neither slavery nor involuntary

servitude

is allowed in The United States?

No. It doesn't.

It says in a state, not The United States. Go back and read

it. Neither slavery nor involuntary

servitude

shall,

unless a person has been duly convicted of a crime,

shall be allowed in the yada yada blah blah, and they're

the states'

jurisdictions.

There's not plural federal governments. They're singular.

Okay. I I'm just gonna read it. Okay? Neither slavery nor

nor involuntary

servitude except for

crime whereof the party shall have been

convicted.

I like leaving out that part because it just puts the hit hits in the giddy up.

So I'm just okay. So I'm a just remember, I'm gonna leave that out, and then I'm gonna read it like I like to read it. And then you can still correct me, Roger. But,

okay. Neither slavery nor involuntary

servitude

shall exist within The United States

Oh, it doesn't say that. Any Okay.

Does it say that United States

Joan,

does it say United States specifically there? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Well, I I didn't realize that. Go ahead.

I guess they're talking about The United States as the as the

the singular states, not The United States Federal Government.

They should have said United States Of America there, I think. Go ahead.

Okay. Well, actually, what all that really has nothing to do with what I'm about to ask you. But Okay. Go ahead.

It does, but it doesn't. Okay. I'm gonna okay. So

so

since involuntary

servitude

since involuntary

servitude is not allowed within The United States,

And here's my question. Doesn't that mean then that,

voluntary

is allowed? Yeah. Well yeah. It's not stated it's not stated that it's illegal, then it's called legal by omission.

Because it's not stated to be illegal, it's legal. The other place that it's confirmed

is earlier in the constitution where it says they can impair your ability to contract.

If you sell yourself into slavery, that's your decision. It's voluntary and it's a contract.

So they also negate it there. So two times in the constitution,

there's direct

inadvertent, ill not written evidence that voluntary servitude's legal.

Now, Joan Okay. If you go on hold on a if you go down the thirteenth amendment a little more, you're gonna say or their

jurisdictions.

That's The United States they're talking about there. There wasn't a real federal government yet for six months. That's what the fourteenth amendment formed.

Okay. Now,

to my point, when I'm I'm going around I I mean, when I see people and I'm talking to people about all this and I say

everything is voluntary,

and they say, oh, where's that written? Or or or or where do you take it from?

Vatel's Law, nation's?

Yes.

Yes. Yes. All those other places. But may I is it also okay to say the thirteenth amendment

indicates that everything is voluntary?

Is it is that You could say that, but you're gonna have to educate them a little bit that there was no fourteenth amendment yet for six months. So it has to be that. It has to be the state citizens. It has to be addressing Whitey and Jim Crow because there wasn't any other option for six months.

Okay. Thank you.

Uh-huh.

Okay. And and even though they say United States in there, they're talking about the States United.

They should have said United States Of America. But see, they this is

absolutely

written to deceive.

Okay? And the the the point that they use there

later on in the amendment

shows that they're talking about The States United,

not The United States Of America

or or just The United States. Do you see that?

Yeah. Yes. Okay. Alright. Well, that's my point.

Okay. Thank you. And so just one more thing. You know how so many citizens are like they they think the constitution is like the best thing,

the sliced bread.

So I wanted to point them to something

that that they believe in and they love,

like the the constitution and the thirteenth amendment that says voluntary.

Okay. We'll see. We gotta Everything is voluntary.

We gotta get more specific. Yeah. They love the constitution.

Last time I looked, the constitution had the fourteenth amendment in it, didn't it?

Yeah. Doesn't that change everything?

Yeah.

Okay. Well, which constitution do you love?

Do you like the one that's federalized after the fourteenth amendment, or do you like the other one where you have full access to the bill of rights? Which one of those do you like?

The one where,

full full access to the Of of course. But you see this? This is the problem. These are these what you're bringing forward

are the muddy areas

that they have muddied with generalities.

We have to go back in and be ultra specific

to pull you out of that muddy water and show you what it is.

Yeah. Ultra specific.

I know.

They set us up with generalities,

and they zap us with specificities.

Yeah.

So that's why that's why, you know, what happens here, I think, with people

is we get in here and we have to start thinking sharper. Now that we're aware of this, you never had to think like that before.

And now because you're oriented this direction,

iron sharpens iron, and you get in here and start thinking

in specificity.

That's why this improves your thinking.

This is where it changes your life because you have to think different.

That's good.

Okay. I think they're good.

Is. It is for us. Some people don't think so, but

their problem, I guess, would be a happy little slave.

Okay. Who else has, got something for Roger this morning?

We got a few minutes left.

Roger.

Yes, Larry.

Yeah. When Dave was talking before about getting a certificate of non citizenship,

whatever that is,

why was he trying to do that as an experiment or he's or he has a court case? He he was No. He was trying to ride in on the voting thing and see if he could get some kind of reaction from him is my understanding.

Wasn't

wasn't he trying to just get that certificate

just for,

for for anybody's own reason that they want it rather than it having to be used in a

only only issued if it's going to be used in a court?

Wasn't he trying to get it just for general purposes

to show people or what?

Yeah.

Yes. I think so. Yes. There's your answer right there.

Okay. So, Dave,

does it look like you have to be in a court proceeding before you can,

like, maybe that's a term one of the terms to acquire it that you have to actually be going through a court proceeding. So, therefore, you have to submit

some type of proof.

Yeah. I gotta I gotta go see my landlord for a second. I'll be right back.

Yeah. It says it in the code. Right? It says it in the code. Right, David?

Yeah. It's Yes. They will send it to you.

Such certificate is needed for use in judicial or administrative

proceedings.

So you can, you know, I guess that's interpretive in the sense of what you would

need it for. Right?

So,

I I basically used

my interaction

in with,

the state of Alabama regarding,

the election division when I was working with them.

And I used that as a means to,

put that letter as why I wanted

the certificate. Of course, they weren't gonna send me the copy of the certificate. It goes it would go right to

state of Alabama. But

and since they wouldn't send it directly to me, my my method to get it in hand was to

let that occur and then go ahead and submit,

public records request for my administrative file

with both the

secretary of state and, and also,

Alabama to see if I can get my hands on it, you know, a copy of it.

That makes sense. Private information request.

Gotcha.

Hey, Paul. This is Wahid. Is there a specific topic? I just joined in.

Yeah. Yeah.

Just listen for a little bit. You'll pick it up.

Pick up white. Status.

Hey, bro.

National status certificate.

Okay.

Yeah. If anybody

request one and get some kind of action back, let us know.

Maybe another tool we can use in the toolbox.

Hey, Roger.

Someone

someone, tried doing that lot, like, a year or two ago, and they couldn't get it. They wouldn't give it to you.

Well, that was during the Biden administration, and I can understand where that would be the case there. Okay.

Yep.

Okay. So got a couple of minutes left. Not many. Who else has got some kind of, comment or question? I had something, Raj.

Oh, damn. I'll let the other guy go first.

Okay. Another guy that was somebody So

well, let me just say the thing I'll get off. There's another

related to the beginning of what the topic was when someone was mentioning how the baby boomers, that's my parents, and I'm technically one of them almost,

works to riding out their profits because they were rich. And now suddenly, as they get older, they start to leave the younger generation behind.

That's just another that's just an that's a deferred savings account for these elite Kabbalists,

you know, these people that run this this this global racket.

It's just another savings account form. It's deferred savings because as those people start to die off, they left no specific wisdom for their children to do anything with what's left of their states. Half of them will be leveraged, half of them won't. And the ones that aren't, like my mom and dad's, they'll give it to my brothers and sisters and myself. And I'll be the only person that actually knows really sort of what to do with that.

Get even. They My brother and sisters won't. They'll put it in their savings account,

gain no interest, and you know what I'm saying? So just the Yeah. The baby boomers is just another deferred a deferred comp program to the to the global call of bankers. It's a big bulge in the population

that they saw coming, and they have taken advantage of

for decades. Indeed.

Roger by then.

Well, listen. Who's there?

That would be Roger, did you hear me? Speak while he I I just call a little bit of what the gentleman said. How you been?

I've been alright. How about you?

So far so good. Did you hear Berkshire Hathaway

that he,

that

he says he, he was saying, I I I don't wanna talk about the future of real estate.

Warren Buffett about two weeks ago, he said, I just won't talk about it.

Okay. He said, I refuse to, he said, I just refuse to comment on it.

Okay.

So what what am I supposed to do?

It sounds like

there's bad news in the real estate

industry. Well, it's a it's a huge bubble. Dead in the water. Nominal price. It's a huge bubble. The nominal price of those houses when they go if it ever reaches nominal prices, what it's really worth,

it's gonna be shocking to an awful lot of people how big this bubble is you're they're living in.

People got no idea why he

k.

And gold is expected to go to 3,500,

I'm hearing.

From your from your lips to God's ears, I heard somebody say $4 by the end of the year. We'll see.

Maybe more than that.

Yes? Did

did you just say the price of real estate is going down or up?

Well, the value. It's not the price. It's the value of it.

The price is priced in these babble buck dollars that's been inflated through the frigging ceiling.

When that comes down to what the property's really worth, it's gonna be dramatic.

Roger?

What Yes. What was Jim Jim Sinclair's,

prediction if when all this pans out, the work the, value of gold.

Well, I heard him say this himself. A hundred and $85,000

an ounce

is what he thought it should be.

Yep.

Okay.

The point matter are different. There's a nominal price.

There that's a nominal price in gold, Joan, from from an expert, a hundred and 80 5 thousand,

and it's worth 3,000 today. Do you see the disparity there?

That's the difference between a housing price and a housing value.

Okay.

Alright.

I got one last question. Julie. I'm surprised Julie didn't jump in here. Our real estate agent. Yes. Go ahead.

Is is it your understanding that the FBI was create was created without a legislative,

mandate?

I it's I've never even thought about it, quite frankly.

You never heard that? That it wasn't create created lawfully?

No. Okay. I've never heard it, and I've never thought about it. J. Edgar Hoover was appointed for it. I'm not sure how they did it.

Okay. Appreciate it. Thank you. Come in.

Joe. Hey, man.

Briefly,

think of the ramifications

of all this real estate

value here, if you will, when it comes to your local county assessor

and how they have budgeted

for all this high priced real estate.

And

the

appraisal value must go down

with the market, and that's gonna create massive budget shortfalls in the county matter.

And so

Wailing and gnashing of teeth, I believe it's described as, Joe.

Wailing and gnashing of teeth.

Don't be a whaler.

Don't be a gnasher.

If you got any extra currency, go get some gold and silver while it's gettable.

There's gonna be a point, and it may be already. I don't know. Maybe a point you're not gonna be able to get it. Okay?

So, anyway, there's our whistler. Of course, that signifies that our time together

is just about over for this Wednesday, the twenty fourth,

Tuesday,

the '20 fifth. Well, I'm all discombobulated.

Can't get the day or the date right. It's Tuesday, the twenty fifth. Tomorrow will be Wednesday, the twenty sixth. Our buddy Mark will be with us tomorrow as someone alluded to earlier. That's always

good. And there's no telling what's gonna break between now and tomorrow on all these other fronts. We may even may even

have a new person one of these days that ask a real, like, what's a citizen of The United States type question.

We'll see.

And otherwise, till then, I will bid you adieu

and, say have a nice day. And

we'll commence about another twenty two hours, and we'll

be together again. It's like that old country song.

Together

again.

So we'll see you tomorrow, kids. Have a good day, and, thanks for being with us. Hope you got something out of it.

Thank you, Roger.

Yep. You're welcome. Hey. Thank you, Dave. Thank you and everybody that contributes here. I thank all of you. Okay?

So as I've said from many years, it's a team effort.

It's gotta be a team effort. I just can't do it by myself.

Okay?

So anyway, anybody else got anything for me or I'm gonna go to expat lunch?

Roger.

Larry.

Yeah. I'm really hoping,

at least one listener out of the 1,000,000 listeners

on the rent show will,

come on our show. We're waiting for him. We're we're waiting.

I I mean, can y'all believe that, honestly?

Not one

response

from two appearances on Jeff Rents.

I can't get that out of my mind.

I'm You got the call.

I'm shocked, man. I mean, I'm just absolutely

shocked.

But gotta live with it. It's reality,

evidently.

Don't know why.

Roger,

they might they might be poking into the show and not saying anything, though. Well, very well maybe. I I I wish they'd

say something and brighten my spirits a little bit.

Well, it doesn't deter me. It just like, what happens with that? You gotta go back and reevaluate.

K?

So, anyway, it appears that our approach

of one to one, person on person is the approach that pays off here. And it's a lot slower,

but at least we get people that way.

Do you remember if you mentioned

do you remember if you mentioned title 26?

I don't know. I didn't mention get into any of that, Joan. I just didn't have the time.

Okay. Well, I I told him I was gonna show him where the law was, and and we timed out. And I haven't heard from Jeff yet. And my

sense is that he just blew this off and has moved forward

and doesn't think it has any chance for legitimacy or both. I don't know.

What I know is I've had two hours on the air, and I'm very drained after this because I'm the one that has to pay attention to all this, and I'm gonna go. Was that somebody for me right there?

That was just a sketch saying thank you, and,

I think Rents

thinks we're probably too far gone just like the monetary system.

And it Yeah.

A lot that he he definitely thinks that because he's told me that in an email, basically.

Yeah. So but I I'm a half glass full. There's hope here.

But it dims it dims. Maybe it'll brighten up again.

I'm not gonna stop doing what I'm doing. So it doesn't matter.

K?

And we're gonna continue to build and find people one on one

that are interested in this and wanna learn. And all we can do is work towards that end in my mind.

I'll see you guys tomorrow. Have a great day. Okay?

Bye.

Breaking news.

Can you hear me?

Yeah, Dave.

Yeah. So,

apparently, there was a big,

group text going on from, the Trump administration,

Pete Hechseth

and the joint chiefs, and they were discussing

bombing

the Houthis,

where, when, why, and how.

And

somebody

added to the group text.

I think they said the editor

of the, like, the New York Times or some

now they just said it was some journalist, but

and now and and Hexxeth was saying he didn't agree

because

he felt like it was bailing out Europe,

and we didn't have any trading going on in those areas. So we shouldn't be bombing the Houthis.

And now some democratic

senators calling for Pete Hexa to resign.

But I was shocked to hear that that he wasn't agreeing with Trump to bomb the Houthis. I thought, wow.

That's

what the heck is going on. Are we living in the twilight zone or what? Is that Yemen?

Is that Yemen?

Yes.

Okay. Thank you. You're welcome.

Thank you, Dave.

You're welcome.

I read that last night. I was like, I don't know about this, but interesting.

It's Study Arabia bombed them for ten years, and it didn't do any good.

What's that?

Saudi Arabia bombed them for ten years. Oh,

yeah. Right. It's just like what we did in Afghanistan

for twenty years, and it did nothing.

Right? Yeah. We'd probably have to put a hundred thousand, two hundred thousand troops on the ground to settle that

because they're underground,

and

they got mobile

missile launchers.

Right. You know? I mean And and then drones.

Those drones are changing the whole world, man. They're they're something else.

They

are incredible.

Wow.

It is the twilight zone, though, for sure. It's a brave new world.

Does anybody know the creation of the FBI and how it was created?

Was it created? I think I brought that up, Sketch.

And, basically, what I was saying is I heard somewhere along the line, don't don't have the reference,

that J Edgar Hoover went to Congress for a charter, and they refused him.

Thank you.

And knowing that,

should we keep supporting,

what's his name, Cash, old Cash?

Well, prior to the FBI, they had another set of thugs in there. They called them the Pinkertons.

Basically, it was just a bunch of, you know, tough old boys that went around and did congress's bidding.

Hoover sucks.

I I mean, Hoover's suck.

I've been so interested in two

go ahead. Go ahead, Sammy.

Oh, I I was just gonna say real quickly. As far as being too late in the game to make a difference, well, you know, God wants us free. That hasn't changed,

and that's all we're trying to do is make sure that we have the right to have a choice,

and, that's what it's all about.

Mhmm.

I have something interesting.

The FBI Oh, go ahead. The FBI was put under the treasury department so that they could arm them because before that, they could not carry arms.

So so, basically, protection for the banker class

and their minions.

Yeah. Weren't they the ones that went after the, moonshiners?

It was basically to,

comply with the,

constitution

because counterfeiting was the one area where the federal government

could bring arms against the people

without using local law enforcement.

It was a technicality.

And they had the whiskey rebellion as far as alcohol

to,

to use as well.

Well, that was a hundred years earlier.

Yeah. Well,

that's pretty much what Lincoln used.

He used the army.

Yeah. Well, so did Washington. That's my point.

Actually, he didn't really use an army.

Lincoln just called up 75,000

troops out of the militias in The States, I think, is what he did. I think that's what he that was the army back in the militia.

Well well, that that's what Washington was doing as well.

These were these were the same guys that fought the, revolutionary

war from the different states.

That's correct. Probably

probably a lot of them were localized because of the area that they were gonna go into. I mean, but

anyway.

In the book of the hundreds, they link they link this presidential power

of Lincoln

back to the whiskey rebellion, which Washington was told is illegal and he shouldn't be doing it. It's not constitutional.

And he did it anyway.

Because there's that that was Patrick Henry's big argument with the constitution. There's no way to hold a tyrant

to toe the line.

I think I have something interesting.

The thirteenth, fourteenth, and fifteenth amendments,

called the Reconstruction

Amendments,

they're known as the Reconstruction

and

amendments. They were ratified between 1865

and 1870,

And they also have to do

with

the,

that is when the,

the right to vote,

the Voting Rights

Act

of 1965,

the Civil Rights Act of 1964,

prohibits discrimination in voting rights based on race,

color, or previous condition of servitude.

Gave black men the right to vote.

That was the fifteenth amendment.

I think it's interesting that the thirteenth, fourteenth, and fifteenth amendments were the reconstruction

amendments.

Reconstruction

from what?

Throwing the original titles of nobility amendment in the, trash can and rewriting the constitution. Is that what they did beforehand? Wasn't it reconstructing

the South after Lincoln

decimated it?

No. It was reconstructing the, the the shape and form of the federal government

from a republic for democracy.

Right. But they called it reconstruction,

so we thought they were reconstructing

what they destroyed.

But it was really reconstructing

to make us

deeper prisoners.

Right. Right. Mhmm. Exactly.

Mhmm.

Yeah. It all makes sense.

Lincoln also passed the National Banking Act, and that's something I didn't know about until recently.

I thought there was sort of a national bank, but there wasn't. These were all state banks.

But in order to for him to float his bonds,

he had to force everybody under a federal charger instead of a state one

to do the bonds that he did to be able to kill people with you know, get the money to kill,

by doing that act.

Yeah. And and another way to look at it, we went from the the the bill of rights, which are in common law,

and then we went into the Reconstruction Acts, which are in equity.

The civil rights.

Yeah. And the organic act of 1871

the organic act of 1871

created a government for 10 square miles district the District Of Columbia.

And through presumption, they suck the entire nation into,

being,

voluntary

surfs under

the DC government.

Paul,

doesn't the original,

constitution

article one

section eight clause 17 say that same thing about the 10 miles squared

being The

US?

I don't know. I would have to read it.

Yeah. I'm pretty sure they that didn't change. I

pretty sure I've heard from multiple sources including,

you know, Gaddy

that,

you know, it was always,

incorporated.

We've always been incorporated since day one.

But they, you know, they lose they they just made it tighter

with Lincoln.

I thought there was some charter.

The bank charter was expiring.

That's one of the reasons for

the civil war.

Am I

talking about something else? I don't Oh, very likely it could be.

Yeah. I think that was one of the deals for that war

was the banking charter was getting ready to expire or already did,

and they had to, you know,

do something to

take it back over.

It expired in 1836

under Jackson.

Okay.

So thirty,

twenty some years later,

right, was the Civil War?

Twenty five years later.

Okay. Well,

if there is nothing else,

I am going to put the stream to bed.

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