In this episode of Radio Ranch, host Roger Sayles discusses a variety of topics ranging from the importance of maintaining freedom and vigilance in the face of governmental overreach to personal anecdotes about dealing with legal and bureaucratic challenges. The conversation touches on the significance of understanding one's legal status as a national versus a citizen, and the implications of this distinction in everyday life, particularly in interactions with law enforcement and government agencies. Roger emphasizes the necessity of being informed and prepared, drawing on historical and legal precedents to support his arguments.
Listeners are also introduced to a series of personal stories and advice on handling unexpected situations, such as dealing with aggressive animals and navigating the complexities of legal systems. The episode features a lively discussion among participants about the practical applications of legal knowledge in protecting personal freedoms and rights. The conversation is punctuated with anecdotes, legal insights, and a call to action for listeners to remain vigilant and proactive in safeguarding their liberties.
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Oh, yes. So would we. We'll go after another installment of it here this morning on the Wednesday edition of March. Roger Sales, your host, Radio Ranch, the, title of our program. It's a two two mornings in a row, very nice sunny days in Ecuador, so maybe we're towards the end of this winter. Rainy season, cross fingers. Anyway, we're, joined and assisted by a number of other folks that lend their shoulder to the wheel to help us extend our message and reach some of you folks out there. And, Paul is overseas all that, and we, allow him and tell ask him to give them proper credit and recognition for all the help that they, and assistance they give us, if you would, Paul.
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I'd be happy to do that one second with my my mic on. I yawn and wake up. And Yes. We're that person should know not to call me at at 11:00. They should know better. Yes. We are on radiosoapbars.com, thanks to our buddy Paul across the drink. And we're also on eurofolkradio.com. Thanks to pastor Eli James, and we're on Global Voice Radio Network. Mhmm. That's globalvoiceradio.net. Our website is thematrixdocs.com. That's d0cs.com. And you can find links to free conference call to join us live on the show, or you can find the links for Eurofolk Radio or Global Voice Radio Network. You'll also find the archive links.
Those are the link, Radio Ranch archives and a question mark, click here. And, just click on the word here. Now we are normally joined by, WDRN productions and the NET family of broadcast services. However, there are heat waves all over, including, in Fort Collins, Colorado because the WDRN studios had a fire two days ago. Alan, our buddy, had third degree burns on both of his hands, and he's dealing with that stuff. The the computer backbone is back up. However, we don't expect WDRN to be joining us until Friday. So in the meanwhile, prayers and happy thoughts for Alan at WDOU.
And, one way or another, we will make it through. We're gonna we're gonna persevere.
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Well, do we know anything about this fire? I mean, it wasn't like the SWAT things are going on lately, was it? No. No. It's just it was just, like, a storage closet
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that, something happened, either electrical or whatever, and, basically, flames flames floor to ceiling and the, the fire extinguisher just a little yeah. Fire extinguisher just a little too far out of reach.
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So Sorry. Gosh, Alan. Sure. Sorry for that. I hope your hands are alright. Burns or soap so painful. One of the most painful injuries you get is a burn. I just had some soap done for you, man. I just can't get any up there in time.
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I'm thinking that, I'm gonna do, colloidal silver aloe gel.
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And Well, it might help. Yep. Well, the yeah. I don't know how much of a, see, the beauty of silver lawn is it's in that cloth, and it's 99% pure silver. And, which oh, boy. I imagine that stuff's expensive these days. And, it recompletes that circuit over any kind of injury, burn included. It's spectacular on burns. Just for the audience, and this is one of those things that you never know what's gonna happen. You know? Be prepared like the boy scouts. I think there's a website called noemforlow noemf.com.
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Yeah. I think it is no e m f.
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That, sells, cloths plated. They have a silver cloth that they call medical grade. The, the patents that were stolen, the doctor Flick applied for for Silverlawn. It was stolen by these, well, these the the usual suspects, the thief and ass revelation two and three niners just can't keep their hands off your stuff. You know? It's fine. It's fine. It's fine. I'm better than you. All that crap they put out. They, don't allow any sales in The US for medical purposes of the silver cloth, and that was, part of the patents they stole. But this guy doesn't make medical claims. I believe he says medical grade.
And I think off memory, it's noemf.com again. I think he's got copper and others over there, but it wouldn't hurt. You don't need a whole lot. But, boy, if you can, afford to have some silver cloth around the house, you'll be amazed at how often you'll use it and at the results you get from using. And it's I mean, I saw miracles of that stuff for four years, man, really, in my own family and, with customers reporting back stuff. I should tell you about, Tracy. What was her last name? It's like a Jewish name. All Altman or something, but they weren't Jewish. They were German.
And, they had immigrated after World War two to the Milwaukee area. And, evidently, there's a large contingent of Germans up there. Her husband had thought Trudy, Trudy Elder. That was it. And she had, her husband had fought on the Eastern Front against the Russians and gotten frostbite in his lower leg. And for years, she had had, it was discolored, and it had, like, pain and itching. He'd been to, like, six or seven different specialists, and nobody could do anything about it. And we, we had a front cover page of, oh, a really Patriot magazine. I can't remember what it was. It's a very slick Time magazine type thing. I'll think of it in a minute.
And, anyway, we had the front cover of that in an article about it, and Trudy saw the article and contacted me and bought a roll of the cloth, 66 inches, maybe three or four inches across. I think we were selling them for all the $30. Ridiculous. Anyway, she got the cloth and wrapped her husband's foot and everything that he had experienced since World War two, Paul, was gone in seven days. All the discoloration, all the itching, all the discomfort, everything. Gone. Boom. Done. After all those decades. So this stuff's very special. It's my, my, comment to the audience is something that everybody should don't need a lot of it. But just for burns and nicks and cuts on the kitchen or, you know, some stuff like that. I mean, it's just incredible what this stuff will do for you. So, anyway, brought that up from Alan's misfortune there of his burn. Alan, we hope you get right through it, and, sorry that happened to you. We never know, do we, Paul?
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No. Never did.
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Information.
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Information is coming in from the left wing. Come in, please.
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Yeah. This is Thomas in South Florida.
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Hey, Thomas.
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Yeah. No. I heard about the burn, and, we have a thing we've done with burns for years, and it really works. You take you go to this you get the stuff that's called the lily of the desert. It's aloe. It's aloe gel. Mhmm. Yeah. Not the water, the gel. And you once you open it up, you have to put in your refrigerator. Okay. It's actually fresh squeezed aloe and it will spoil if you don't once you once you break the seal on it. And what we've done in the past with severe burns is, oh, we always use paper towels, but you could use gauze and what you do is you soak them and in the aloe gel and you put it all over the burned area, like in this case the hands, you would basically put it, you take paper towels, you would gauze, you absolutely soak it and put your hands in there and if it's severe, I put like a Ziploc bag or something over the hands.
Yeah. Good. Okay. You let that the whole secret is it's got to dwell on that. I mean sleep with it overnight. I mean keep them on. And we've had incredible burns that it's just almost magic. I mean if you've got charring, I don't know about that, but we've had very severe like, you get instantly burned with, like, steam or someone puts their hand on top. One of my kids put their hand on top of a of a, you know, like a Weber grill. I don't know if you ever Yeah. You know, we're bartering on and he's, like, three or four years old and he puts his hands on and he burns the hell out of his hands. Poor kid. Yes. Of course. Well, he screams so loud. We had him in in we saw how we treated him and, of course, the next day we couldn't even tell that it happened. He screamed so loud somebody heard we had the cops knock on our door. They really really kids screaming over here and this is a while ago. They we said no no my son just stuck his hand on a barbecue and he burned the hell out of a palm of his hand. He's only like four years old and, see that's how bad it was. The next day, you couldn't even tell that he burned his hand.
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Yeah. It was that Yeah. It was amazing. Uh-huh. Because it got put on very very quickly though. Very quickly. Uh-huh. Oh, you gotta get it on immediately. The the the quicker you can get it on an area, the better it's gonna do. I know you can substitute with Silverlon. You said his hand. I don't know if it was his entire hand or not. No. Just a little more difficult. Put his hand on top of the grill and went No. No. Not your son. Al Allen Allen. Yeah. I can I can see your son doing that? But, you can also use colloidal silver and aluminum foil. We'll almost duplicate the SilverLawn product because the magic in this is, god's own magic is evidently the epidermis, the skin out on the outside level is the largest organ in the body for one thing. And secondly, it is a conduit for our electrical being.
And we the the conduit runs in that epidermis level. So what happens is if you, like, had a laceration, a cut, and it would break through that epidermis and on down into the dermis and the other, lower layers, Well, when the electrical field is not going over that laceration because of the cut, well, the pain, the, nerve endings are there at deeper down. And when there's no electrical field over them, they they induce the pain feeling. So when you put something that will conduct back over that laceration, it completes the circuit again, and the pain goes away.
And I mean from third degree burns in minutes. You know? So it's all all documented by Flick. It's a wonderful product. Of course, the, the the small hats just couldn't wait to get in there and and steal it. And then another bunch stole it from that bunch. So, anyway, that's what's going on. Sorry, Alan. You're having to deal with that. I hope it's treatable and manageable because it can be very painful. So, anyway, thanks, Thomas. So, I was just listening to Owen this morning. Evidently not Owen. Harrison. Evidently, Owen got swatted overnight. There's this wrath of of, swatting's going on.
Families, family members, people, all kinds of stuff. They've done it to chase guys or twice. And, it's, pretty unfortunate that that I hope they catch this. Evidently, everybody that's been swatted over there around and around Infowars and peripherally is somebody that stood up against the Ukraine. So it may be more of these god, these people are just the wackoiest nut jobs. They they're just pure committed communist. They're they they have no morals. They have no ethics. They're totally Machiavellian. The men means just justify the ends justify the means, and they're just gonna pull this crap. And they're like a little baby with a tantrum that just has a tantrum until he gets that pacifier in his mouth or mom's boob or something.
But, anyway, it's a a horrible situation. It's increasing. I got up and slipped on the livestream, and there's Alex at eight something in the morning, talking about the repercussions of this stuff with Owen last night. Very sad now then right as we were going on the air. And I didn't hear I never heard about this. There were riots, I guess, before Trump's first term and even before Black Lives Matter. There were riots in the Baltimore, Washington area, I believe. And somebody, in a family, the young the one of the brothers was into this, and they got this, these instructions on how they were gonna proffer this riot in Baltimore, who the friendly cops were, where to meet the friendly cops, and what routes to go on. It was very detailed.
Now this is from 02/2015, folks, before George Floyd, any of that. And, you can catch Owen Reed in it today. Reached the whole operational order, what they're supposed to do, and shows them where they're supposed to gather and where to go if the to find friendly cops. And if you get in some kind of law stuff, go go touch base with this person. It's a multi page document signed, by the way. And what happened was the older brother walked into the, younger brother's room, and he saw these papers crumpled up on the floor. And he uncrumpled them, and and they were these instructions. And, he uploaded them to the net is how they got out, but you can bet they're using the same tactic with everything they do. That's what made it so interesting. I've never seen the compilation of their marching orders before laid out like this. Very, well, very professional, if you wanna put it that way.
And that's who we're dealing with. And and hopefully, hopefully, they would help whatever methods and means they're using to hide themselves from this heinous activity because people can easily get killed in these slots. Do you do you everybody knows what I'm talking about. Right? Where some outside force calls in, tricks the 911 number, gets to the cops, and goes, well, Paul is over there hanging his cat up and trying to skin it alive and shoot people. And they all of a sudden, all the SWAT team shows up at Paul's apartment. And they, you know, come out with your hands up and all that, and it there's a lot of tenseness and potential, bad bad actions coming out of it. And, anyway, that's what they're doing, and they're really relying on it now. I I know they had done it to Marjorie Taylor Green.
I think somebody had swatted her 12 times, Paul, something like that. Well, they finally caught the son of a bitches. They've got them in jail in DC. And anybody that does get caught doing this, burning a Tesla, car going and blowing up Tesla dealership, key in a Tesla car, all the rest of this terrorism that these guys are proffering just because they lost power. They they need to be well, they were putting some of those Jan six guys in jail for thirty, forty years. That's what these people deserve. Pam Bond, he's swatting them with a five year sentence, which is should be quadrupled or more.
So, anyway, that's some of the stuff I've seen this morning since I got up. Paul, you have a comment on that?
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No. I was just agreeing. It should be. Yep. Five years is nothing.
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No. It needs to be, like, mucho on yours. Twenty twenty plus, something like that.
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Send them to Gitmo, drop them in a hole so deep they gotta pump sunshine to them.
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That'd be a good place. Yeah. So hopefully, we're gonna get some law and order going. And, some of this stuff, they've already caught a few of these people that have been harassed in the Tesla dealerships evidently. And, they need to catch a whole bunch more of them. Just just turn Jan six right there on them. I mean, these are legitimate terrorists right here. So, Yeah. Anyway, Owen was saying he said, you know, with the Jan six people, they had billboards up all over the country. Have you seen this seditious person? Do you know who this sedition or seditious person is?
And, well, they I hope they go to extremes. My lord. These people up there, just think of it. You know, every everybody's bitching or, like, some of the the hosts are on bonding. And where where what he promises? What's this Epstein stuff? Are you protecting Israel? All all of that crap. Do do do y'all have any, even idea? I don't know any of us would to the extent that when these people get this position and go and sit down in front of that desk for the first day, they gotta be totally overwhelmed. Mhmm. Roger. So give them a little time, Larry. Give them a little time, would you? Yes, sir. How are you doing this morning?
You're getting swatted o you didn't get swatted overnight, did you?
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No, no, I'm fine. Speaking of Tesla, did you know that in China, it's illegal to be critical toward Tesla? So there's a number of lawsuits that Tesla won that drivers of these Teslas brought against Tesla as a plaintiff and I think there's I think I said I think there's about 11 of them and the plaintiffs brought these lawsuits against Tesla being critical of some type of failure in terms of function or whatever and they ended up losing and having to pay Tesla a certain amount of money. And I'll give you one example that I read about. So there's this older gentleman and he was driving his daughter who's obviously an adult And they're going down the road and then all of a sudden, the car started taking over and driving itself and he went to hit the brakes and he plowed into something like it wouldn't stop and he he ended up crashing and he was claiming that there was something wrong with the Tesla and even his daughter was saying the same thing like this thing just took over and it wouldn't stop.
And so they filed a lawsuit against Tesla for like you know, 20 some thousand dollars or or more, and they had to end up paying that amount of money to Tesla. Isn't that amazing?
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Well, I know there's been reports of these things having a life of their own and doing wacko stuff like that right there over the years, but not too many, but occasionally. Yeah. Could be. That is kinda wacko, but that's in China. So they've got a loser pays, a system over there.
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Yeah. That's in China where that that happened.
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Damn. China's got some sensible stuff going on. I'm shocked. Well, hopefully, we'll get to that point in our country because, there's no reason. I mean, you know, Elon. I I'm sure they hate him. I mean, he just go any I I think he's basically donating his time, and going in there and doing all this really impactful stuff that very few people evidently could do because of his brains, his understanding. What Trump says is, the guy that knows the most about computers that I know, and his team, and they've done some real damage, and they're hurting these guys. So, we'll they're gonna keep lashing out. I think they're building up to something and, Harrison was saying that these SWAT things, they're building up to a point where when Antifa wants to pull an attack and they call one of these in, the police won't respond because there have been so many crywolves.
Well, I don't know if that's their tactic or not, but it would make sense. And, just be you know, I be careful out there, folks. It's incredible. We've already beaten these guys, and we're going along the way trying to get enough people to solidify that position and hear all these people fighting these creeps because they haven't heard or won't listen when they do hear about what we've got here. All we gotta get is numbers. We get some numbers. I think we could really affect some change here. But we're not there yet, but we're working on it. Aren't we, Larry? Hey, Roger. We're talking to people. Yes.
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Yeah. Another thing is, Elon Musk is only the face of Doge. The real person that's has the power behind the scenes. I I did some research. Her name is Amy Gleason. She's the acting administrator of US Doge service. And so there's a number of lawsuits that have been filed against Doge, and she's the one that gets named on the lawsuit as a defender.
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Okay. That's the first time I've heard her name.
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Yeah. I think she was say that. She was high had a high level position in in health care before she got this job over there at Doge. Okay.
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Well, I would say the person ultimately behind it is Trump, not her. She's taken orders from Elon and president Trump, and she's not out on her own doing her own bidding, but she's got the administrative position over it all. What's her name again, Larry?
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Amy Gleason.
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Amy Gleason. Okay. Well, good for Amy. Maybe they'll swat her coming up pretty soon. Who knows? It's a day by day deal. It's, it's just incredible all all these events unfolding everywhere, and now Trump and Putin are talking behind the scenes regularly. And if you'll remember on the first time around, this was their big freak out was that Putin and Trump may talk without one of them in the room being able to hear what the conversation is. Well, evidently, they're having a bunch of those. No leaks. You haven't heard any leaks, have you? That's a good sign. K? I would think.
And, hell of a time. Hell of a time, folks. So, of course, what we do, if there's any new people here, any of you newbies, little newbies, little wet behind the ears. I got a email from somebody that got turned on to me through someone. Joe's, Joe is, Joe's talks and looked me up and this, that, and the other. And, he says, this stuff's starting to make sense to me. So I shot him back the website and everything. And and for you new people, that's the kind of person this shows for. We do discuss all these other things, of course. They're topical. They're interesting. They're timely.
They may have something to do with us directly or indirectly, but, it it doesn't matter. The show is for you, the new people. And we haven't had any new people around asking questions in quite a while, couple of months. I'm wondering, is it is it because of the the the the Trump complacency syndrome? You know? Oh, well, we we got a conservative guy, and he's really doing a lot of stuff. Boy, ain't that good? We can relax for a little while. No. Not really. This is a what Thomas Jefferson say? Constant vigilance Constant vigilance even when these conditions exist that we're dealing with now.
You still gotta be wary of these guys. They're they're unhinged. I I don't know all the adjectives that you could use against these damn people. These kids, I guess, many of them that have been influenced because they're young and stupid, about politics and how things work. And, it's just, it's very sad for me to see them so brainwashed, but they're brainwashable. But the good news is there's a lot of younger people that are starting to come over to the conservative side, evidently huge numbers, and, at least percentage wise. So we'll we'll take it a day at a time. We'll try and grab them of wish we could get Presley back on here. Presley would be our young person a young person, example that could talk to him.
Anyway, that's about what's going on that I've seen between yesterday and today. Anybody else got any observations, questions, comments? This can be like another endless well. And you know what's funny Is I'll do this. I'll I'll y'all got any comment. And then, we go off the air, and everybody wants to say something and ask a question. Right, Paul? I I beg them. Theirs will see. We can always count on Joan coming forward. Good morning, Joan. You're gonna get it started for us right behind Larry. How are you doing? How's the weather in Costa Rica this morning?
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Just perfect. Just perfect. Yeah. I I, yeah, I think I saw Dave from the, you know, the, nationalstatus.com, David and Kate. I think yesterday in the chat, he meant he wrote that a hunt there have been a 28 referrals from the Rents interview with you?
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Right. Yeah. They said a number of people hit on the computer that night because Jeff inadvertently I don't know where he got it, but, off the website or something. I don't know. He put up their website on the page as the go to website. So they sat there and saw he said about a 50, but they got over a hundred people that was checking in. That's good news. We hadn't seen them over here. That's alright. Also They're probably still noodling. They're they're probably still noodling on it, Joan. Now what yes, ma'am. What was your, comment on that?
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Did Trump release the unredacted president Kennedy?
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I think he did. I haven't been able to find anybody since he released it that was going over it. I know Alex had Roger Stone on for a short time yesterday, and he was chomping at the bit. I guess he's the authority in the country on the Kennedy assassination. So he was gonna go through them, and I think Alex is planning on having him back today to come up with what he has found. But, you know, there's 80,000 pages they were releasing. They said 80,000 folders. Now I don't know if a folder contains more than one document, but there's at least 80,000 documents they're releasing, Joan.
Are you a speed reader, dear?
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No.
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Okay. I, I I think that's ridiculous.
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You think it's ridiculous?
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I don't have 80,000. I mean, I could report.
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Well, you know, Joan, he was supposed to, by law, they were supposed to, by law, they were supposed to release them in 2017. And Trump was going to release them all until Mike Pompeo came in and said, no. This you should you shouldn't release all these 80,000 here because they might give some methods and stuff away. And so there's Pompeo, the deep state stooge, playing again. Now this time, he, Trump he was hanging around Trump a little bit, and Trump has cut him off and, cut off his security clearance too. Good. And, yes, Pompeo.
And, so, anyway, I this time it comes around, and he goes, I'm gonna release all of it, you know, on this. We can't get any Epstein stuff. Here's this other stuff. He's promised to do this, so he can release all of it, unredacted my to my knowledge. So we'll find out more this afternoon as we can get loose from our program and hear other folks talking about it. Looks like it was Kennedy. I mean, it looks like it was Johnson that pulled the assassination, Yeah. As we've gotten evidence for lately, but what we don't know is were the Israelis involved and, some of these other things that hopefully we'll find out information on, Joan.
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Okay. Good. Thank you, Roger.
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You're welcome. Okay. Who else? Somebody else got something to yak about? So we got that coming today, all of that. We got, the Roger? After yeah. Effects of all this swatting. Yes. Is that Julie or Nancy? So what are the two?
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It's Nancy. It's Nancy. Hey, Nancy. Hey.
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Good morning. Early. Yep. I have a question
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as a as a student, an ongoing student, my driver's license is up for renewal, and so I'm going in to renew it today. And I drive in Commerce. So, and it that's not the the driver's license is you it's not my issue to push at this point in my life. But,
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I think that's why.
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Yeah. I wanted to, I was going to submit my affidavit along with the renewal application. And do you have any, advice or in terms of whether I should do that? Or
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I I you know what you might do is go ahead and do the application and get the driver's license and then send them the affidavit.
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Well, I was thinking about that too. So because I'd rather not,
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I was thinking about practicing belligerence, and I didn't know if I wanna do that in the DMV. I don't you know, here she we see this they're driving along the interstate, and here's poor little Nancy pulled over with some officer with a gun at your window. Please don't do that, Nancy.
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No. I'm not. I've I have no interest actually in doing that. That that that doesn't sound like a very good scenario to me.
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So I would do that. Maybe if you wanna insist that they have the affidavit or you could try signing, your, driver's license with TDC, either in front of your name or on top of it if see if you can get away with it.
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Do you think the TDC is or I was thinking about without prejudice, UCC one same or ARR.
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Basically, same thing. You're just giving them a little more of a legal thing to look at. TDC means threat, duress, coercion. Basically, the same thing. Right. Yeah. But, you know, see here, the audience might not know. Hey, Mark. Nancy drives in commerce. She drives Lyft, isn't it? One of them done Lyft. One of them, a rideshare. Yeah. Rideshare program platform. Yeah. Okay. So she does a ride share program and little extra funds on the side and whatnot. So you are legitimately in commerce there. Mark, first of all, you got something to add to Nancy's dilemma here?
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Well, when you're talking about signing that, agreement, I wanna bring up what Joe Lustica had talked about was nonassumstitute, which means you don't agree to the contract. You do not undertake it. So you could you could do, like you could try it if you want. Non assumpsit, a s s u, m as in Mary, p as in papa, s I, t as in tango. Okay. Two two separate words, non assumpsit.
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Okay. And,
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it's a Latin phrase that means he did not undertake or he did not promise. I'm looking at some of the historical context. But, in general, it's a denial of the plaintiff's claims. That's not what I was looking for. But it oh, here it is. With the specific action of the subset may be less common today, the concepts of contract and breach of contract which are central to a subset remain relevant in modern legal practice.
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So just basically Mark, talk right in your
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can you talk right under your microphone? You sound like you're off on the side of it or something. Is that any better? Oh, about a 20%.
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Okay. Alright. I just didn't have my microphone close enough. So, you know, Joe said he wrote that down as a signature, and a cop chased him down and have him sign again, sign another ticket. So, but I I agree with Roger. I don't think I would put my affidavit with my application. I would wait until afterwards. I would get my I would get my driver's license. There's no no place for a national to select national, then I would just go ahead and select US citizen, do take care of my business, get my driver's license, and then follow-up with a letter to them saying, you didn't you didn't have a place for a national.
I'm a national according to the Immigration Nationality Act. That's 8110121. Show them the definition. And I don't think you'll have any problems. But I don't think so either. Yeah. You're protecting yourself from, you know, the accusation that that you're a US citizen, which, you know, everything I've read, you you clearly have to say it's my intent to be a US citizen. If they don't give you that option on all these forms, which they typically don't, then you really don't have much other choice but to select US citizen.
[00:37:48] Unknown:
Now let me ask you a question, Mark, if I could interrupt for a second. Before, like, when Brian Howard was doing his stuff in Idaho, it was always the qualifying question is, are you a resident? It wasn't over to citizenship. Have they changed that?
[00:38:05] Unknown:
No. They'll they'll ask that. So that's, you know, again, we're we're getting into the sticky wicket here. They don't give you much options. Now California, you can easily sign up for a driver's license being a noncitizen and a nonresident. They they're sanctuary state. They got all the all the, immigrants that are piling into their state, and they've made exceptions for that. So but I don't know. Your state may may vary. Maybe something you want to look up in advance on what your options are.
[00:38:43] Unknown:
Yeah. We'll give you a few options, Nancy, where you can noodle over them and make a decision, but I I don't believe first of all, and I agree with Mark a %, I don't know that I'd send the affidavit in with the, application. Send it in later. Try TDC or nonassumptionset. See if you can get it past them. But you are legitimately driving in commerce occasionally.
[00:39:09] Unknown:
Yeah. Well, I was more concerned actually about the residency definition. But Virginia so on the application itself, it does have the same United States Of America box, like, for voter registration. So it uses instead of United States, on the top. But, again, so that's not my concern because I can legitimately say, yes. I am that. But the residency but in our question, I was a little bit more concerned about, but I like the idea. It's not actually clear. I'm looking up the codes and the the requirements and how they define things. It's really not that cut and dry.
So I I do like I it's not it's not. Yeah. I'm not surprised. But, I'm more concerned about that, but I like the idea of sending in my affidavit afterwards, to be a part attached to my record.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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And and by the way go in and even even split some hairs on that. Just go, I do drive in a road sharing program. So when I am in that activity, I am in residence, and I do need this. But, otherwise, I'm only in that percentage of time. Otherwise, if I'm driving to the store to go get some groceries, I'm not in that position. So however you wanna phrase it, I don't think you'll get any backlash from them. And the point point is that you legitimately do need one.
[00:40:44] Unknown:
Yes. And I I just wanted to I I think that I'm I think I'm fine too, but I saw it as an opportunity to bring that up forward on the show Well, no. For others as well as myself. But I Mhmm. Because it's pressing. Because my birthday's tomorrow, and, that's when it when it expires.
[00:41:02] Unknown:
Felice Felice Cumpleanos are you're the oldest. Right? Suzanne's younger sister?
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Didn't you tell me that? Well, my
[00:41:10] Unknown:
I'm older than her. I'm the middle child, and and our brother is the oldest eldest child. Oh, I see. Okay.
[00:41:17] Unknown:
Alright. So, and for those who don't know, Nancy's sister's been a listener for ten years, back from the old, truth truth frequency days. And, and then she went away, and she comes back. She's Sadie Sadie married lady now, and, and she listens, I guess, in the background. So how's the new house coming for them? Are they are they in bliss?
[00:41:46] Unknown:
Yeah. Well, they're today is their one year anniversary.
[00:41:49] Unknown:
Oh my gosh. On top of that, yikes. Yeah.
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And, they're having a a party this Saturday to celebrate, because they kind of they eloped, when they got married. And, yeah. So it's a one year anniversary, and they're celebrating. Okay. They're putting I put up for sale their the previous house, and they're, you know, they're in transition, but they've been doing a lot of work, a lot of work.
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So I don't know if listen. Happy anniversary to Dean and Suzanne. And, Dean is very interesting. He's a big time non mercury filling dentist. And I guess Suzanne went to get her mercury fillings taken out. It's how they met. Right? I think that's right. Yes. Yes. And, he interestingly enough, we find out that he had crossed swords with the evil empire previously. So when Suzanne brought him the message of freedom, he was he was readily accepting, I guess. Right? But what what's this? Right? So, anyway and he's ready to fight him, I suppose, now. And congratulations to them and you with a new family member there, and all of that stuff, Nancy.
So very cool. Thank you. This is how the this is how the message spreads. It's an example of how to spread among family here. So, just keep it up. Keep talking to people, and we'll keep growing much slower than, you know, we'd want. But, we're still growing, and at some point, that has a chance to be explosive. Let's put it that way.
[00:43:29] Unknown:
Yes. And I'll I'll pass along your regards to the Yes. Bride and groom. The bride and groom. I may get to I might get to meet them here later on in the year. We're hoping. So we'll see. I know that that they they, I think that's something they look forward to as well coming down your way. Well, thank you, Roger.
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You're welcome, Nancy. We'll treat them real good when they come down. Yes, Samuel.
[00:43:55] Unknown:
Yeah. I have a a comment regarding this issue. I, some of these things like the driver's license, let me give a little background before I state this and then you might sound like a cop out if I don't give a little background, but I'm thinking when I'm doing my notices to the AG, the sheriff, etcetera, and I explain and send them my affidavit, I want to give them a little more deal or detail on what a national is so they can't refute it. They don't know what that means. I would like to have them understand that say in oh, and I want them if they're going to communicate with me, I want them to use my Christian name. They can't use the all uppercase name, things like that.
And then in an instance like the driver's license, it's as a resident technically, I have to be a resident to have one of those and of course as a national I'm in conflict with that. You might point that out and say, in order to stay in peace with you as I come in peace, I intend to, approach this matter under the doctrine of necessity, because I it would it would be difficult for me to not function without a driver's license. So I'm going to accept one, under these conditions about regarding the name of the residency except so you're not I'm not actually waiving any of my rights as a national, getting into this adhesion contract with you. Something like that is is the way I'm thinking of handling it.
[00:45:53] Unknown:
Yeah. Sam Hill, I have a question for you. Didn't your license just expire recently in the last six months or a year? How did you handle that?
[00:46:05] Unknown:
I just re upped for now.
[00:46:08] Unknown:
Okay. And fair enough. I have no problem with people, you know, deciding what battle they're gonna wage. May I I have a question for Mark because I find it interesting when they shifted your license renewal driver's license renewal to your birthday. And, evidently, it's happened in every state, which goes to, it's all uniform. I don't care what state you're in. Is it is it all is
[00:46:43] Unknown:
it all in the new ID thing, Sherry? Back off your phone just a little bit. You're occasionally Sorry. You're popping your peas there. If you could back off just a little, and it won't be not total. It's just intermittently. But, yeah. Go ahead, please.
[00:47:01] Unknown:
Well, I'm trying to think when it happened in Missouri when it shifted to your birthday. It's been probably at least ten years ago.
[00:47:13] Unknown:
Yeah.
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But my question to Mark is being that it's all uniform throughout the states, how do they get away with changing that uniformity? Like in Arkansas, they dispense with definitions, supposedly.
[00:47:38] Unknown:
Gosh. How do you do that? I I did that come along with the with the your ID, star ID, or whatever it was in that legislation? Do you know, Sherry? Because I Real ID? The real ID. I think you can opt out of getting that license. It seems like I've heard I don't want one Yeah. It's optional. Just regularly. Okay. Fantastic.
[00:48:06] Unknown:
Yeah. The other thing that that Terry Lee brought up, how he handled it is he went down to his DMV. I think he's in Washington State or Oregon.
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Yes. And and he he
[00:48:19] Unknown:
he told he told them that, well, I'm a Christian, and I need a Christian name on that thing and a few other things and of course they couldn't they couldn't satisfy what he needed. So now now they're refusing him instead of he's refusing it and then he asked them for a certification that he is now going to voluntarily give it back to them, and he wants them to acknowledge that. And these are the causes why So if he ends up in front of a judge, he can say I didn't refuse it. They refused me. That's another way that it could be done or necessity.
And reading the doctrine of necessity is and understanding that I think is important because our government uses it all the time. And what's good for the government's gotta be good for us. Right?
[00:49:15] Unknown:
And I think hand in hand is, a doctrine of, shoot. Just lost my train of thought. Good hand clean hands. Yeah. Okay. Because they're not coming in with clean hands. No. They're
[00:49:31] Unknown:
probably not.
[00:49:35] Unknown:
Go ahead, Mark. You're also you're also, you know, coming to them in good faith.
[00:49:40] Unknown:
Yeah. So with clean hands. Yes. Clean hands. That's a very important legal, phrase. I
[00:49:47] Unknown:
I approach with clean hands or however it is. And I wanna thank Samuel for for bringing up the doctrine of necessity again. I know Paul producer Paul first brought that up, and I was like, yes. That is that is so perfect because they've got us in a position where you can't hardly operate without being in their system. So when it comes to the driver's license issue and other things, you know, you're almost forced to be, quote, a US citizen. And if they don't have an option for a national, then you don't really have any of the choice. And then follow-up with the letter and like Samuel said, just explain how the doctrine of necessity and to keep the peace, I selected US citizen even though I'm a national.
And you can provide the definition for the national. And And the source. If they have a problem with that, let you know, they should let you know.
[00:50:46] Unknown:
Mark, let me ask you a question. I think that that phrase
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keeping the peace is very important because if you read the fourteenth amendment, there's rebellion in there. And I think Stamper makes the argument that as citizens, you're in rebellion against your own country, your state.
[00:51:06] Unknown:
And I think that's
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the point. You're coming in peace because you're a national. Right?
[00:51:17] Unknown:
Yes. And it also the the legitimacy of that is the war and American Emergency Powers Act in '33 when they made citizens of The United States the enemy. Well, I don't wanna be your enemy. I mean, I hate you. I wanna kill you, but maybe but figuratively, of course. But, but, you know, we wanna clean hands here, you devil. Yesterday, Mark, it came up with Larry, I think, about Roger,
[00:51:45] Unknown:
may I before you continue on? Okay. Go ahead. That Go ahead. Honor and decorum is another phrase that we need to place on our documents. Peaceful, lawful, private, honor and decorum.
[00:52:01] Unknown:
I haven't heard that before, but that's good. Yesterday, this came up, Mark. You, of course, weren't with us. You kinda hang around on Wednesdays and Saturdays now. Right? Yeah. Is that your That's correct. Your attendee schedule?
[00:52:12] Unknown:
Yep. Yes.
[00:52:14] Unknown:
Okay. Yes, sir. Well, Larry came up with the old, protection for allegiance, allegiance for protection. And how do we hold their feet to the fire on that? Yeah. That is by the way, Larry, that is our powers right there. K? Because, again, this is not a choice of theirs. It's it says in the statute that's large. And in the original act, not nationality act of 1940, a nationalized total allegiance to a small estate. Well, that is, of course, a small estate, not the federal boys. And, but they don't understand that that word allegiance there triggers protection on their end.
I'm sure I doubt if these guys were ever exposed to any of this background in law school. Wow. Mark, really? Know, teach it So they don't understand this. They you know, the European coming and telling them all this stuff they weren't taught but should know. In their position, they know or should have known. Well, if you're an attorney general, you knew, know, or should have known what what gives you jurisdiction, shouldn't you? Well, hell, I guess so. Okay. So I wonder now, originally, we we discussed doing some sort of a short I I hope it would be short, legal brief and and putting that as the cover letter to the whole state chain, attorney general, sheriff, etcetera. Right. But the then your idea of taking a asking the court for declaratory judgment and doing a memo of law that that any of us could go into a state of a state court and file and see how they respond. And, of course, if they respond negatively, you've always got an appeal. Right? So you got an appeal to the appellate level, and and it could even take it further than that if they wanna rule against you. I don't know how they'd rule against you because the facts are totally in our favor. But what do you think about doing that and having students file that in some of the state courts we're in just to see and get a feel for you. You don't need one student to to, you know, raise that issue. It doesn't have to be a whole bunch of them.
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But, let me give you this is this came up when I first started joining you on the show and listening and, you know, we talked about the protection side of things. Well, how do I prove? How do I hold their feet to the fire that they're supposed to give me protection? And there's a US Supreme Court case from 1875. To the best of my knowledge, it's never been overturned.
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And most of the social work
[00:54:51] Unknown:
Yeah. I'm gonna give that to you. It's Minor, m I n o r, versus Happersett, h a, p as in papa, p as in papa, set. H a p as in papa p as in papa e as in Edward r as in Roger s as in Sierra e as in echo t as in tango t as in tango. Happerset. Eighty eight US one hundred and sixty two. That's the US Supreme Court and it's from 1875. Let me read this off to you. It's a paragraph. Yeah, please. Please do. It's really cool. Says there cannot be a nation without a people. The very idea of a political community such as a nation is implies an association of persons for the promotion of the general welfare.
Each one of the persons associated becomes a member of the nation formed by the association. He owes it allegiance and is entitled to its protection. Allegiance and protection are, in this connection, reciprocal obligations. The one is compensation for the other. Allegiance for protection and protection for allegiance.
[00:56:04] Unknown:
Boy, you could just lay that in the cover letter right there. Take
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care of most of it. Yep. Yep. A political community. And you you've given your allegiance to whatever state you're you're in. Some people say it's their birth state. I don't know. I think it can be flexible. But you're the one who gets to decide. If I wanna be if I wanna pledge my allegiance to Oklahoma small s, state, not state of Oklahoma. Right? There's a difference. State of Oklahoma with the large s, state, capitalized s. That's part of the the the federal, subdivision. But if it's Oklahoma, small s state, and call it Oklahoma State, that's the original Constitution of your state.
[00:56:58] Unknown:
Yep. And that's how I would that's how I would list it. Did you find any other cases that revolved around that?
[00:57:05] Unknown:
No. No. I haven't. That's the primary one.
[00:57:09] Unknown:
Oh, bad. Yeah. This is how rare this knowledge is, folks. I mean, you're being blessed by John Benson sacrifices is what's going on here. And if you're new, we'll get you a second, Sherry. If you're new, this is the primary deal that we're all everybody's running on is this. As I said on rinse the other night, you remember seeing in movies where the guy would clench his fist and hit his breastplate there on his armor and go, yes, my liege. And if you'll remember, Brent was quick on that. And in the background, he goes, liege, that's part of allegiance. Yep. So before I could even get to it, he had put those things together, very sharp of Rince, actually.
And what this is was the primary formula for the feudal system. Your the lord of the manor asked you for your allegiance, and then he'd give you protection. And it's an automatic formula. And just like the case says, you all you have to do is invoke one side of it. The other's automatic. Okay? And so these state attorney generals, even though they probably never been exposed to this, This is their duty. It's their it's not a choice for them. It's an obligation. K? And, obligation or duty. And so who are they supposed to protect us from? Like, well, if you're in Oklahoma, it's supposed to protect you from them damn Texans that keep coming up there and harassing you, Mark. And, it's supposed to protect you from the federal government coming in and taking over the state as a political subdivision and going, well, you gotta have this license. You gotta apply by these traffic laws. Well, no, I don't, sir. You're supposed to give me protection from these intruders, not prosecution.
[00:58:56] Unknown:
Yep. I agree.
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So this is our really our teeth and and we we might ought to move a little bit more in that direction of having a few folks maybe go in and file declaratory judgments. Isn't that what that is? And there's the whistle. So okay. We're gonna say goodbye to our friends everywhere that we're, cutting off here at the top of the hour, and we will continue our in-depth and very important conversation in just a second as soon as Paul bids you a due. Adieu. Exactly.
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Yes. And you'll get to hear about things like jurisdiction. He's fascinating. It it really is fascinating, actually, but it's so damned important. And there's so few people that understand this. So, again, John Benson reaching out from the grave through me and touching you to help improve your life and your vision and your stance and all that stuff. So, anyway, that would be a good idea, I think, if we could maybe, if I Mark, you got a lot of damn spare time up there in Oklahoma. See if you see if you can draft up to Memphis. I'll let you. I will if it will give you 40 lashes if you don't. Yes, Joan.
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No. Sherry first. Oh, Sherry. Okay. Alright. Sorry, girls. Whoever's No. No. No. No. No. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Sherry, don't raise your voice. To go to half or sat. Sorry. Sherry, don't raise your voice.
[01:00:51] Unknown:
Very sure. I'm not to a different phone that that will use the story. You're on just get the mic just get the phone away from your mouth because you're like when you're on your other phone, you're you're faint, and now you're on the one that's real close. So when you hit those popping your p's and s and your s's, it's over modulating. That's what I'm trying to get you to do. Just back off. Apologize. Just so well, that's okay. We understand you're excitable. Okay? Just back off from the microphone a little bit. Both women are. Get to you in a second. Sherry's got a pertinent question. I'm having to do all this organization. Go ahead, Sherry. We'll get you Joan in a minute. It's about a Happersat.
[01:01:30] Unknown:
Sorry for the p's and s's. I found it interesting that he talked about the people first and then followed it up with person. Do you find any significance in that mark, or does that make him quote synonymous?
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Let me go look at that again.
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I think at one point, he's talking about a collective and the other, he's talking about the individuals that make up the collective. That was what I took from it going on. Yeah. Yeah. It talks about a people. So it says there cannot be a nation without a people,
[01:02:08] Unknown:
period. The very idea of a political community, which would be a small s state, comma, such as a nation is, comma, implies an association of persons for the promotion of their general welfare. Now, remember, persons can be an individual.
[01:02:27] Unknown:
Right? And so can people. Yeah. Yeah. And they're a class. See? These persons are a class because they all fit into this one thing they're talking about. Go ahead.
[01:02:38] Unknown:
Right. But people can be, singular or plural as well. And so I find that significant.
[01:02:46] Unknown:
Well, you read in I think you read in the context here that the organization or the state is by a group of people. It can't be just one person. I guess it could be. But then when you get back down to the individuals, it's persons. And, of course, you'd be talking about persons that were in the instance, state nationals that could, form that political union and not the federal government come in and overlaying it. Yes. Men and women. Okay. Both. Yep. Well, my question is,
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does that tie the two together, people in person?
[01:03:24] Unknown:
Or does it that in what he said right there does. I think in right there, it pretty well identifies it pretty clearly to me. I don't see any ambiguity at all here.
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It also uses the the masculine pronoun of he following the in the following,
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sentence. Don't forget. Don't forget. The militia was everything. And I'm sorry for you gals, but back in 1875, things were different.
[01:03:53] Unknown:
I'm not I'm not objecting to the pronoun. I'm okay with that. I'm just I'm pointing out if it were corporation, which is also a person, it wouldn't use he or she. So I'm just I'm pointing out that it is consistent internally
[01:04:08] Unknown:
to this the Yeah. Well, I agree with you, Nancy.
[01:04:12] Unknown:
Yeah. The the in terms of persons, in the context of which it's being written, it seems very clear that it's talking about a natural person, man or woman,
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not you. Yep. Me too. I'd say so too. Don't forget this wasn't all muddied up back in those days. Go ahead. I always wanted. What about Joan? We don't refer hold it. We got Joan.
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Joan? Hello?
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Yes. What if the governor or the attorney general if if they are presented with that case and they say, oh, that applies to citizens, US citizens and the federal government. The yeah. They the citizens owe yeah. That's referring to citizens owe allegiance to the federal government and the federal government giving them,
[01:05:04] Unknown:
account say citizens.
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It does not say citizens. It does it doesn't say nationals either.
[01:05:10] Unknown:
No. It just says a person. So Okay. If if you're owing allegiance, you're supposed to get protection. That's all this is about. Whether you're owing allegiance or you've pledged let me say it correctly. If you pledge allegiance to US, then The United States is supposed to give you protection. See.
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Right.
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Well, if you pledge allegiance to a smaller state, then that state is supposed to give you protection.
[01:05:38] Unknown:
Remember, after the fourteenth amendment, supposedly, it was written for former black slaves. They were all over the states of the union, and there was backlashes against them in many instances by the nationals of the state, if you want the state citizens, if you wanna put it that way. So when they came out with the fourteenth amendment, they were giving all the new citizens of The United States protection, and the allegiance came after that. They owed allegiance because they got protection. In the other opposite, we're getting we're owing allegiance and getting protection. It's just reversed.
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Okay. Great. Thank you.
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Okay. Roger?
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Yes.
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I I hate that word person. That is the whole reason for Roe versus Wade because a person had to be born or naturalized in order to have any Go argue Right. Go argue go argue with Gaius. And then you can easily substitute man or woman. And as far as allegiance, God's gotta be first in my case. And if man's not, kowtowing to God's law, I got a problem with that law, and that should be clearly stated, I think.
[01:06:56] Unknown:
Well, I don't think it's the word person that I think the the, legal concept behind that is just totally valid. Okay? You just gotta know which person.
[01:07:06] Unknown:
It is very confusing. Why not say man or woman and be clear about it? Well, because that's still not true.
[01:07:13] Unknown:
Oh, okay. Man or woman, where do they get their rights and who they owe their duties, man or woman? Well, that's who the person is. Well, I just said I just said or a man. Okay. I mean, I think it's totally legitimate the way Gaius did this because now you can identify. If you understand it, you can identify it real easily. Oh, person. Well, I'm not that person. That's a fourteenth amendment person. In the fourteenth amendment, I'm this national guy. I don't owe any duties to the federal government. Sorry. I get no civil rights from you. I owe no correlative duties. Pound sand.
[01:07:48] Unknown:
Roger, one of the biggest problems with the country is Lincoln brought in the he ruined the common law by bringing in military Roman rule. Well,
[01:07:58] Unknown:
that may be true, Samuel, but it doesn't have any effect on this person thing to my knowledge. You're you're talking apples and oranges now. And it The person goes back to Gaius. Singing a chord. Doing anything in the chord, I think, is a mistake. That's not our venue. It's not where we belong. Oh, no. I've I helped Samuel. I try and get everybody out of court for God's sakes.
[01:08:22] Unknown:
Always have. Out of court. If you're doing a declaratory judgment and you're doing it through the court system, I think you have to do it somewhere else is all I'm saying. Roger.
[01:08:31] Unknown:
Roger, Ted, Jared? Is the call just hold on a second. You're putting in something and going, is this true legally by your definitions and your understanding or not? You're not putting up in front of a court. You're just going to the court and filing it as a declaratory judgment asking for their opinion. That's what you were doing. Well, the assumption is that you're a citizen to start with. It's not our intention. Not if you, well, not if you put the damn affidavit with it. Their presumption's out the damn window.
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Alright. Well, you know, we can make that argument. I'm just
[01:09:06] Unknown:
Okay. Well, that's the best nonthreatening way to at all. I'm not It's the it's it's the best nonthreatening way of approaching this that I've ever heard of, quite frankly, and I thank Mark for bringing it forward. I wouldn't have thought about that.
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Roger.
[01:09:21] Unknown:
Wouldn't it work just as well sending it to the AG and your prosecutor and the sheriff
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instead of going into the court? But how about if you had a decision from one of their state courts that everything was legitimate, and then you send that to all of them? Then they got no place to come and say this is much a crap. Brett Allen
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Brent Allen Winter said never ask them a question because they lie.
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Well, he's talking about it in a courtroom setting. Samuel. Alright. Yeah. Okay, Samuel. You don't like it, don't do it. Who else is the one? Say something. Roger. Me. Yes. Marco.
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I agree with Samuel with what he's saying. Just gonna explain something about the differences. There's the word person. You can use it for a natural person too, but there is a definition in the code where it says US persons.
[01:10:15] Unknown:
So just don't use US. Well, yeah, well, US persons are fourteenth amendment citizens.
[01:10:21] Unknown:
Right. Correct. And the declaratory judgment or information that, Samir just mentioned, that's as a, national, you have the authority, not the public servants and the public officials in the federal system. So you're not asking them to do anything for you. So you don't wanna use that because you're asking you're giving authority to a judge to give you the information instead of you presenting
[01:10:57] Unknown:
wrong if he's given you wrong information, you appeal it. Right. But you just don't give them that authority. We don't we're no longer a person. Folks. You can see we're divided on this. Alright. Alright. If some of you wanna do that and follow-up, fine. If some of you don't wanna do it for these other reasons, that's fine too. I don't care. And I'm just looking for a way to find where we can get teeth and get it legitimately. That's what I'm looking for. I I agree with you, Roger.
[01:11:25] Unknown:
So that would be administratively, you know, going through the court or, you know, carrying our court. That's what this is.
[01:11:34] Unknown:
I mean, like, through paper. We we start We say court, and everybody thinks you're going in on a case. This is not that. This is writing a memorandum of law and going to the clerk and filing it as, can you give me a legal opinion on this? That's what it is. Let let me clarify. Going to court.
[01:11:55] Unknown:
Let let me clarify real quick. The court the court action is the last resort. If if a government agency won't recognize your status and they're trying to harm you and they they shouldn't have the right to do whatever they're doing, you your your last resort is to go in court. But don't start with the court, you know, that should be like Mirka says, you got this administrative process. You want to go through as much of that as possible. And if they don't see the light, then you can put you could bring in a court action that would be not for money. You're not suing anyone.
You're just asking the court for an official opinion, which you should already have backed up. In other words, a memorandum of law that's in your favor and just pin the other side down where they can't move forward. They have no other argument. Here. But the the courts are your last resort.
[01:12:53] Unknown:
Okay. Well, this is what I'm trying to achieve. This protection for allegiance at the state level is our teeth. And we had I had never stumbled on that concept on how important this is before a couple of years ago. There's one one day on the show here we're talking about it. Well, now if that's our teeth, how do we get them sharpened? If they if you if you put this notice into the attorney general, he's never been exposed to this, and he thinks you're a little protestor of some sort. Well, how do you put the teeth into his behind or her? That's what I'm looking at. Call with them.
[01:13:33] Unknown:
No. They Dwayne Dwayne and, what's his name, from Louisiana
[01:13:40] Unknown:
Yeah. They they were over there talking to their sheriff and the attorney general. So, I mean, it's a good idea to try to get on the phone with them and talk to them. Well, it is if you can get to them. I think they were talking with an assistant, maybe in the AG. I don't remember. They hadn't didn't doesn't seem like it worked very well, though, does it? We hadn't heard anything since this one. With the with the sheriff Well, we that did. Well, we don't know. But I don't know about that attorney general. Okay. We don't know. He got elected. We hadn't heard anything more. If he's interested, those guys don't check-in and tell us. So here we are hanging around the end of the limb. To Okay? I'll send them a message to see if they can give us some info on it. Okay. Here's the question. How do we get the attorney general's attention to give us the protection that we are due and owing from that person and that position according to history that goes back over a thousand years and according to all the trappings of the word jurisdiction. How do we get their attention?
[01:14:40] Unknown:
I think I have the answer. The solicitor general. And they they are the ones that defend The US against four foreign nations. About There
[01:14:57] Unknown:
Are you talking about the supreme court level?
[01:15:00] Unknown:
Federal support No. Solicitor general. The solicitor general is in the department
[01:15:05] Unknown:
of justice above They're do you know what they do? Do you know what their job is?
[01:15:12] Unknown:
Gerry. To state what the law is, And they know it's a different represent
[01:15:17] Unknown:
they represent the federal government in front of the Supreme Court solicitor general. This one under Correct. But there's more. There's more. Okay. You're overmodulating
[01:15:28] Unknown:
again. Back off your phone a little bit, please. We're gonna stop her from There's more, and I would like Mark to answer this question. Shouldn't our questions go to the solicitor general instead of the attorney general of the states?
[01:15:46] Unknown:
Well, I don't know.
[01:15:48] Unknown:
I have to They are the ones that represent The US interests to foreign countries.
[01:15:56] Unknown:
And every state You're talking about in the state. Sherry, you're talking about in the states. We were just talking about federal. Which is it?
[01:16:06] Unknown:
Well, aren't the states foreign to the federal? And would they have the answer? And would they know the common law as well as statute law? I yield.
[01:16:23] Unknown:
The main person for us, Roger, is the secretary of state of DC. He's the one that handles foreign foreign, resident, statuses. So then there's the attorney general. We can write a letter for the attorney general and the secretary of state and have them answer it,
[01:16:43] Unknown:
request it, you know, in a Okay. Which secretary of state, America? The state or the feds? DC.
[01:16:49] Unknown:
DC. He's the one that handles foreign. He's a foreign department for citizenship statuses. So include him and attorney general and talk you know, put something together to have them answer those questions. You know, this is your duty. You know? The point out their duties and make sure that we ask our questions or who however we wanna write it. Each personal Yeah. Individual person doing their their paperwork. What I'd like for some of you to do is to do that right there and start writing letters and asking them these things. Quadra. K. I've been working with my attorney general, so I I, CC him with everything, and I also include the secretary of state because he is the one that gives you or was giving,
[01:17:40] Unknown:
national. Which sec which secretary of state? The US or California? See, this is where all this gets very confusing. Okay.
[01:17:50] Unknown:
Alright. Larry was your person.
[01:17:53] Unknown:
Well, he's the only person. He's in control of all matters concerning citizenship, period.
[01:18:00] Unknown:
Period. He he they were giving out, certificates for nationals. Right? They stopped doing that. So they can give you per For Samoans.
[01:18:11] Unknown:
It was for for both of us for both all of them. Well, I don't it doesn't state that. It doesn't state that. It says that they ask them to go get a passport. No. It doesn't.
[01:18:22] Unknown:
But because they include us and hide us behind the US National,
[01:18:27] Unknown:
we can use that as our tactic. You'll go ahead and use it. I don't believe that applies, but go ahead and use it if you want. Larry,
[01:18:35] Unknown:
what do you got? Well, hold on. Before we move on No, Sherry. Larry, if you do not mind,
[01:18:41] Unknown:
could Mark speak to about the solicitor general? You gotta get get your mouth away from the damn microphone.
[01:18:51] Unknown:
Fair enough. You continue
[01:18:53] Unknown:
to overmodulate, and it ruins what you're saying.
[01:18:58] Unknown:
Any interregnum Raj,
[01:19:01] Unknown:
can I make a comment? Solicitor general is very important. And could Mark speak to that?
[01:19:08] Unknown:
K. Well, before he answers have to do some research on it.
[01:19:14] Unknown:
Okay. Sherry, you may not know this or not, but you were very vocal on the show and the after show on Friday. I spent eight hours editing and working on the archive recording just because people were too loud and they were distorting. Now lose the damn cell phone. Get back on your home phone because that doesn't do that. If you're gonna be a part of the program, don't be a part of the problem.
[01:19:47] Unknown:
I have tried three different venues, my home phone, my cell phone, and my laptop. And it just seems like none of them are consistent.
[01:19:59] Unknown:
Sherry, I don't request. I yield. I have a request, Sherry. If if you say may I, wait for an answer. Just don't butt in. Thank you.
[01:20:14] Unknown:
Okay. Alright. I'm gonna put Sherry on the back burner for a minute. Let her get her phone situation under control. Larry, you were trying to inject something a minute ago, I think.
[01:20:27] Unknown:
Yes. So getting back to the original question, how do we get the attorney general of a state to give us protection? And you offered an idea to get a declaratory judgment. So I think some students are concerned that a declaratory judgment is getting permission from the court, but I think I don't think you see it that way. I think you see it as a declaratory judgment is getting the court to agree with your facts. Is that right?
[01:21:05] Unknown:
Well, in essence, yes.
[01:21:11] Unknown:
Right. And you don't see it as getting permission from the court?
[01:21:16] Unknown:
No. I'm putting a set of facts in them, asking them their legal expertise. Wait. I I I'm not looking for permission. If they rule against you, you'd want to appeal that, I would think. If they rule said this has no merit, well, hold it. These are legal facts. I'd appeal that to the appellate level. And I have heard over the years, by the way, many years ago, that that's the first place you get real laws at the appellate level.
[01:21:43] Unknown:
Right. I agree with with this idea. I think it's a good idea.
[01:21:47] Unknown:
Hello, Roger? What we could do what we could do is you could go ahead and take that memorandum of law and include that in a cover letter to all these people so they'd have something to read. Then if they didn't recognize it, now you go and ask the court for declaratory judgment. How about that, Mark?
[01:22:06] Unknown:
Yeah. That's your administrative process, and your court is the last thing you wanna do.
[01:22:13] Unknown:
There's there's Gary.
[01:22:15] Unknown:
Yeah. It's Gary. Love Walter.
[01:22:18] Unknown:
Gary. We're sitting here arguing
[01:22:25] Unknown:
we're sitting here arguing about split hairs.
[01:22:28] Unknown:
Well, I try and say that, but everybody wants to argue about split hairs.
[01:22:34] Unknown:
Our ancestors understood very well that there was two statuses in this country. We call them the Jim Crow laws Correct. That understood and passed two different statuses, two different laws for what we considered at that time blacks and whites. It was not about race. It was about political status.
[01:23:01] Unknown:
True. True.
[01:23:04] Unknown:
And people, you're sitting here splitting hairs over nothing. And don't try to tell me I don't know what I'm talking about. I've been studying this stuff for twenty five or thirty years.
[01:23:15] Unknown:
We do that around here a lot. Gary, how are you doing? Excuse me. Is that shit? Are you? Yes. Are you talking to convince
[01:23:30] Unknown:
You're still alive that Now I'm dealing with now I'm dealing with an MRSA infection from the hospital in my right arm and at the, IV site where they put an IV in it. I now have MRSA. So it it's just been one thing after another for the last eight months.
[01:23:53] Unknown:
So sorry, buddy. So What are they doing for the MRSA?
[01:23:58] Unknown:
Just giving me antibiotics.
[01:24:01] Unknown:
There's gotta be some strong antibiotics. That stuff's almost totally resistant from my understanding. Manuka honey.
[01:24:09] Unknown:
Manuka honey is in premier remedy for MRSA.
[01:24:14] Unknown:
Manuka honey. Thank you. Manuka honey, Gary, if you ever heard of that. Manuka?
[01:24:21] Unknown:
It's from the tea tree
[01:24:24] Unknown:
flower. Yes. May I you've got to fight that infection internally. Calcium bentonite clay and colloidal silver. Not at the same time, of course.
[01:24:37] Unknown:
Okay. There's some more suggestions, Gary, for you. You're back home. Right?
[01:24:43] Unknown:
Yes. I am at home. I'm not in the hospital now. Okay. Well soon, Gary.
[01:24:48] Unknown:
Get well soon.
[01:24:50] Unknown:
Thank you.
[01:24:53] Unknown:
But Anything that you use externally, it should be calcium but not clay to draw it out. The silver should be used internally to push it out, a yield.
[01:25:05] Unknown:
And, Gary, I know you're on Youngevity. Look at their killer biotic three capsules three times a day until it's gone. That stuff is incredible.
[01:25:18] Unknown:
Well, thank you, Dave. I appreciate the input, folks.
[01:25:22] Unknown:
Manuka Manuka honey owns
[01:25:25] Unknown:
on the skin. Thank you. Have a good day. Manuka honey on the skin. There you go. Mel like, melaleuca. Meluca honey. Sounds like similar. So, Gary, well, hell, it's good to hear your voice, man, and I agree with you. We these folks are just insisting on splitting a lot of hairs, on these things. So what what are you weighing in on here?
[01:25:51] Unknown:
What's your what's your stand? The The point is I mean, we keep talking about this person thing and everything else. And folks, our ancestors knew it with the Jim Crow laws. That's why they were passed. Sure. They knew that there was a dual status in this country at that time.
[01:26:10] Unknown:
They did. Well, I mean, who else was the third who was the thirteenth amendment written for?
[01:26:17] Unknown:
I don't know exactly. All you have to do is connect the dots. Duh. They're well they're able to be connected if you concentrate and think about it. This stuff about we get you know, I don't have the opportunity to listen to this show live now very often, but I do listen to the replays because I do care about you, Roger, and I care about the success of this movement. But when you get into these circular arguments like you're having, folks, it does nothing but turn other people off.
[01:26:54] Unknown:
I agree.
[01:26:57] Unknown:
It's all there. It's everything is there. It's all there. It's all been laid out a hundred times on this show. Connect the dots.
[01:27:10] Unknown:
And I'm gonna get off here. I've I've Why don't you go go rest, Anne? But drop in when you feel better and talk to us. Okay?
[01:27:17] Unknown:
Thank you, Gary.
[01:27:20] Unknown:
Roger. Thanks, Roger. Thanks, Gary. Tell Gina she's doing a good job. Thank her too. Yes. Now who's Sketch wanna say something? Was that Sketch?
[01:27:28] Unknown:
Yes. I do. And it I'm circling back to some conversations. Samuel's, mentioning his Christian name, you mentioning that you're not that person, and I wanted to mention the word identity. Now I think that's something that maybe we should discuss. Now I have a question for Mark. Samuel says he wants to use his Christian name. That identifies him. Now the question is, does that confer jurisdiction? No. I well, it's your identity. It depends. You you say I'm not that person.
[01:28:18] Unknown:
What what well, what the first jurisdiction is you answering those two questions, yes, and signing something. How'd you sign it?
[01:28:27] Unknown:
Well, Mark, I I understand. And Mark says, well, all cap name doesn't confer jurisdiction. Now does identity confer
[01:28:37] Unknown:
It depends on what what you say you are does. Is that what you mean by identity? Whose identity is it? Their identity for you or your identity for yourself?
[01:28:49] Unknown:
Well, Sam well, it is always yourself. I think you you have the right to identify yourself.
[01:28:55] Unknown:
Just like But you're implying that they can do that. You they can't. You can. Only you can.
[01:29:03] Unknown:
Understood. Understood. Now now so
[01:29:07] Unknown:
when? I This is what Gary this is what Gary's talking about. It's this right here, but go ahead.
[01:29:15] Unknown:
Okay. Well, I I I don't need any more discussion. I'll just bring it up. If we don't need to discuss anymore, that's why I yield. Well, I'm I mean, the only thing that that that to my knowledge, Sketch, again, to my knowledge,
[01:29:27] Unknown:
is when you sign that to answer those two questions yes and sign something, you're agreeing to their hidden contract. And that's the one thing that matters. I don't know what the and now they could perceive you as that person, but only because you told them you were. I mean, Sketch ought to know what he is. Ignorance of the law is no excuse. He did this his whole lifetime and told us yes and then signed it. I I'm gonna take him at his word. Right? Right. Well, then that then they're determining your identity, but you're the one that gave it to him.
[01:30:03] Unknown:
Right. I agree totally. I just wanted to I I think identity never been talked about. Person has and, strong man has and, person has.
[01:30:16] Unknown:
So I'm just throwing Okay. Woah. I've Well, no. We talk about your identity. Sketch, we talk about your identity for fourteen years here. File this affidavit, and you won't be this over here. You'll be this over there. Those are both identities, aren't they?
[01:30:32] Unknown:
Well, yes. They are. I'm just saying the word Okay. We've been never been really used. Would And there is something called the law of identity.
[01:30:40] Unknown:
I just bring it in new to me. So it's new to me, but I know the word used per person is used all the damn time. It's used in statues. It's used in all kinds of things. It goes back two thousand years. Hold on a second, Larry. It goes back two thousand years to a guy named Gaius, g a I u s, in Rome. He wrote a book called Gaius' Institutes. The whole first part of the first institutes by the guy that originated the law is on the word person. I kinda think that means it's important. How about you?
[01:31:13] Unknown:
Very.
[01:31:15] Unknown:
Okay. Roger? I'm not that person. I don't see any ambiguity here. Yeah. I guess you could say I'm not that identity, but that isn't as specific as person. With us, we wanna be as specific as possible to avoid their traps.
[01:31:34] Unknown:
Understood. Hi, you. Larry.
[01:31:38] Unknown:
Yeah. I don't think there's anything wrong with the word person because the Lord doesn't think there's anything wrong with using the word person. So in the King James Bible, the word person or persons is used a hundred and seven times. And it says in first Peter one seventeen, and if you call on the father who without respect of persons judgeth according to every man's work, pass the time of your sojourning here in fear.
[01:32:12] Unknown:
Alright. Now I know that guy Bill Richardson was trying to say the word person's bad, and one of his examples, some biblical quote, it says, stay away from persons who are evil. And he took that persons were persons meant everybody was evil, and you don't wanna use that word. Well, that's just a total misconstruing of what they're saying right there.
[01:32:37] Unknown:
Roger, please. So?
[01:32:40] Unknown:
Yes. Is that Chris? I think that's Chris. Hey, Roger. I got something for Gary. Well, never mind, Chris. Some I guess it's the delay. Alright. Hold on, Dave. Chris, you were Okay. I think that was you. I think that was you. Right?
[01:32:57] Unknown:
No. This is Sheldon. And Oh, hi, Sheldon. I'm sorry. No. That's alright. Little off in the weeds here, something normal. Carl has something to say. And if he won't, I'll say it for him. Tell him, Carl. Alright.
[01:33:13] Unknown:
Yeah. Go ahead, Carl. Oh, Carl. Waiting on the delay, Carl.
[01:33:23] Unknown:
Okay. I don't think I don't think he has some.
[01:33:27] Unknown:
Okay. Here he is now. You got it.
[01:33:30] Unknown:
Sheldon, I don't I don't I wasn't gonna say anything, so you can you can say what you want.
[01:33:36] Unknown:
No. You need to say it because it's gonna uplift everybody.
[01:33:44] Unknown:
Well, funny story it's a funny story to me is all it is, and it's just a coincidence, and that's how I look at it. Is that what you're talking about?
[01:33:54] Unknown:
I'm talking about you got to use your card. It got it arrived on time.
[01:33:59] Unknown:
Yeah. So the other day, I was traveling. We're heading home, and I was a couple lanes over from the exit that I needed, and I cut over. And I knew there was a cop around because I could hear it on my my radar detector. And as I cut over, I didn't cut anybody off, but apparently, the cop was far enough behind me that he saw it all, and his lights went on immediately. I cut over two lanes and then cut through the median to get off the exit. Stopped at the stoplight, and I was gonna go straight as a three way stop. And I was in the middle to go straight, which led me to a parking lot that I was gonna pull over in.
And the officer ran up to my window, banged up my window to give me your license or give me your give me your ID. And so I said, I'll be pulling up right there, and he insisted, give me now. And I gave him my ID. And this time, which is this is actually the third time I've been pulled over since I got pulled over with using my driver's license a while back. And this time, along with the other times, they got my ID. I went and parked. And about ten, fifteen minutes later, he walks back and says simply, I'm not giving you a, I'm not giving you any, I'm just giving you a warning.
But and he insisted on me saying my last name, and I I just didn't give him anything. I said it's on my license. It's on the on my ID card, and he said, oh, he he he agreed and let me go, but it's just another, occasion. And I think for me, it's just a matter what I've noticed is the first time I got pulled over, I spouted too much stuff for the officer. And I think what he did is he said, I thought the judge figured out and gave me the ticket. I've been pulled over now a few times, and I swear it's not my norm to get pulled over that much. But, the times that I have sent, I've just got warnings, back to back warnings. One of them I was doing 85 and a 70, and I just got a warning. So I just got a car now shut.
[01:36:30] Unknown:
Okay. Good good good story. My my suggestion, start paying attention to your driving.
[01:36:37] Unknown:
There's two people that wanted to chime in there. K? I just wanted to ask Carl Roger if if his ID is the passport card.
[01:36:45] Unknown:
Well, I think that's what he's talking about, yes.
[01:36:48] Unknown:
Was the car registered?
[01:36:51] Unknown:
Is the car registered?
[01:36:54] Unknown:
The car was registered. It is not in my name. I've since taken it out of my name and put it in trust.
[01:37:02] Unknown:
Okay. Alright. Well, congratulations on the last two the last two. Yes. Who's that?
[01:37:11] Unknown:
Sheldon again. I have another person. Eva got a 06 on her passport card with five stars before she was a national. She may wanna talk about that. I'm done. Okay.
[01:37:29] Unknown:
Oh, I don't know anything about the stars or the numbers other than you guys think it's really important. Go ahead.
[01:37:36] Unknown:
Well, I just wanted to point out that ID stands for identity, which I tried to bring up, I yield.
[01:37:44] Unknown:
Okay. So anybody got any questions for Carl or comments or other stuff? Thank you, Carl. Congratulations. Jesse, can you hear me? Your wife are you making your wife a believer yet?
[01:37:59] Unknown:
No. She's she's she was mad. She said I should've got a ticket. In fact, both times, she insisted I should've got a ticket. And the last the last one I got pulled over before, this is when when I got my my first ticket that's listening to you, it I got it on the day that I got my passport, yet I hadn't received my passport yet. It was just in the mailbox. The and so I did my letters to the court trying to do it administratively, through paperwork, and the judge gave me a warrant. And two days before I was going to court on that one, the I got pulled over doing 85 and a 70.
And the officer said, you're aware you have a small warrant for your arrest. And I said, supposed to be going to court on Monday to get this resolved. And he said, I'm not gonna give you a ticket, but you need to slow down. And so and that was I agree with
[01:39:06] Unknown:
it. I I agree with the cop. That that's a little lead footage. I I would strongly suggest you try and get on top of that.
[01:39:15] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. My my legs are partially paralyzed, so sometimes I don't know I'm going as fast as I do. My eyes don't work well either. No. I think so. I can relate to it. Have a valid license? I do have a valid license.
[01:39:31] Unknown:
And So so they could have seen that when they looked up your passport ID name? It should have shown up.
[01:39:39] Unknown:
Yeah. I imagine it has. I actually went in and handed the state I actually have two two licenses because I lost one of them a while back. And I handed that one of the licenses in to the state because I tried to, turn it in, essentially. And they insisted that I didn't need to do that, and I said, no. I'm I'm not a I'm not a resident. I'm not a US citizen anymore, and I need to turn in. And they would not allow me to turn it in. And since then, I've written a letter. I've never submitted it, to the to the driver's department, and the letter is, I don't know what's the I guess, think of the name. It's invalidating my driver's license, but I haven't turned that in.
And so I'm I'm certain there's a note saying that I don't have a license, but I'm not really sure what they've got because I did leave it with them. I put my hands up finally after meeting with manager and everybody. I said, I don't want this license anymore. And I I left, and then I wrote a letter, but I never did mail that one off. So question. Kind of a kind of a twisted mess, but
[01:41:09] Unknown:
go for it.
[01:41:11] Unknown:
Does your identity, confer a jurisdiction or no jurisdiction?
[01:41:19] Unknown:
And what does that mean? What do you mean? Question.
[01:41:24] Unknown:
Does your ID give them jurisdiction or no jurisdiction?
[01:41:32] Unknown:
Which ID are you talking about?
[01:41:36] Unknown:
The one you handed to the officer.
[01:41:41] Unknown:
Which one? Are you the driver's license or the passport? Doesn't say anything on it.
[01:41:47] Unknown:
It doesn't say well, let me look. I'll I'll tell you.
[01:41:54] Unknown:
I think the passport card removes jurisdiction, and that's four digitized through your declaration.
[01:42:01] Unknown:
Yes. It does not it's the first one. Not detain and assist in their travels if they need it.
[01:42:09] Unknown:
Yes. And that's why I brought the word identity.
[01:42:17] Unknown:
No. I gotta apologize. I wasn't gonna bring this up because I know Roger's not keen on talking about it much, so I wasn't gonna bring it up. Sheldon, you you wanted to, and
[01:42:27] Unknown:
I'm grateful. Well, I mean, it sounds like some sort of a success story. What I object to is getting into these long traffic decisions and discussions with all these different things on a situation that we cannot definitively decide how they're gonna rule. I can tell you just about every time with no exceptions how the feds are gonna handle it, but I don't can't handle this county to county jurisdictional thing. That that's my big problem with it. And we're not here about driver's licensing and driving. We're here about freeing you from the Federal's beef system. That's what we're here for. And I agree.
[01:43:09] Unknown:
I think I think this conversation is more an after hours conversation. I know Mike from Georgia has a couple very interesting pullovers lately with his ID and a non registered vehicle that he's recently bought that has out of state plates and that don't belong to him, essentially. But it's all after hours.
[01:43:34] Unknown:
May I I have a question, and it comes back to person. If you're operating in commerce, they do have jurisdiction.
[01:43:46] Unknown:
Correct.
[01:43:48] Unknown:
If you're one of the people, they do not.
[01:43:52] Unknown:
Well, let's again, you wanna split hairs. Let's say this. They may have subject matter jurisdiction. That court has control and jurisdiction over the roads in the county, but they don't have jurisdiction personum over you using it in that situation. So there's another hair splitting deal. There's two types of jurisdiction, subject matter and personum.
[01:44:18] Unknown:
Yes. But what I said But you have to,
[01:44:23] Unknown:
make them distinguish between the two, and that's the difficulty
[01:44:29] Unknown:
we are having. Well, you well, you do by bringing up the other one and taking it away from them. You may have subject matter jurisdiction, but you don't have personas, and here's the proof that you don't. Bam. You know, with the affidavit. So that's just the course I'd suggest you take.
[01:44:46] Unknown:
So Brandon j Williams,
[01:44:48] Unknown:
who is also in the same movement, has done a couple interviews lately. One of them was with a court clerk, an active court clerk, and another one with, the most recent one was with a active police officer. And the police officer is now interestingly enough, he's he's a national. And they've discussed they've discussed him I mean, everything from him getting a job as a police officer officer as a national, which they cleared up because that was an interesting thing. But he he says, I wasn't a national when I got the job, but became national. And he said, I saw nowhere in the guidelines that I have to be a US citizen once I was employed. And one of the things we talked about is the jurisdiction given to the state of the title when hand that title into the state, you essentially give that vehicle to the state. If you don't give that title to the state, it remains with you. And if you already have, you need to do and and they you know, this is just hearsay conversation. I haven't done it. I don't know.
But they talk about doing a deed and submitting that deed to the state saying that that vehicle is no longer theirs, and you're retaining that deed back in a quick claim deed is what they did. But The title the title to the car to it again to understand it.
[01:46:35] Unknown:
I think the title to the car is a manufacturer's statement of origin. And I don't know what they do with them when the, dealership gives it to them and gets a tag and a certificate of title. But that is the title of the car's manufacturer statement of origin. I think that was you talking. Right, Paul? I wanna hear about the COP that's in National. Where was that?
[01:47:02] Unknown:
So this is on Brandon Joe Williams, one of his podcast. I could probably pull it up here.
[01:47:11] Unknown:
Well, do you remember just offhand what part of the country he was in, or did they state that?
[01:47:18] Unknown:
He was in Florida. In Florida. Florida. I'll be darned.
[01:47:23] Unknown:
Alright. Yeah. That's interesting. That's the first time I heard of that. I like it more. The sheriff.
[01:47:28] Unknown:
Not just the sheriff hop in Tampa.
[01:47:31] Unknown:
He's a a regular Tampa Policeman? A sheriff's office as well? Sheriff's office. Yep. Okay. That's, what county is that down there, Tampa? Anybody know? Hillsdale or something? I'm not sure. Okay. Nobody knows. Alright. Well, that's just damned interesting is first I've heard. Yes. Is that Larry? Larry, you know something about this?
[01:48:02] Unknown:
No. No. I was just gonna say that Brandon Joe Williams, I'm pretty sure he's he's the guy with a filthy mouth. He just has no problem throwing the, the f bomb out there like every other word.
[01:48:13] Unknown:
Yeah. Well, that's not Roger? A good way to alienate peep some people. Yes?
[01:48:21] Unknown:
Yes. It's either Hillsdale or Gulf County.
[01:48:25] Unknown:
I bet you it's Hillsdale. I think Hillsdale's Tampa. I don't know what Saint Pete is, but, anyway, I'm just curious. So if he's a Hillsdale sheriff department officer, good on him. That county, Hillsdale, had one of those Soros DAs in it, and, DeSantis kicked him out of his job. I think he might have gotten it back on a court suit. I don't even know if any of y'all heard that or not yet. Those are couple of years ago. We could sure get rid of some of these Soros DAs and judges. Boy, that's a battle that's looming big time coming up.
[01:49:05] Unknown:
Hillsborough.
[01:49:07] Unknown:
Hillsborough. There's Bob. Thank you for correcting us, my friend.
[01:49:11] Unknown:
I thought you were in Michigan there for a minute.
[01:49:14] Unknown:
Well, I mean, I didn't know where I was. I was trying to be in Tampa. Yeah. But that's not unusual for me sometimes. I'm getting old now. On
[01:49:27] Unknown:
radio ranch chat.
[01:49:30] Unknown:
Okay. Thank you. Thank you. So, who's got anybody got any comments on that? You got any sheriffs in your, area who've become nationals? That'd be great. Man, we start we start to wave on that. That's a whole different story, isn't it?
[01:49:51] Unknown:
And, Rob, he's one that he's very smart, and is very interested in doing an interview with you. Just FYI. Who's that? And I Who's that? Brandon Joe Williams.
[01:50:05] Unknown:
Okay.
[01:50:07] Unknown:
Alright. Well done. Reach out. Joe Laska. Oh, okay.
[01:50:13] Unknown:
I got one of those people wrote me an email this morning. This guy's name was Jason. So, you know, we are spreading a little bit, not as quickly as any of us would like, but it's not our timeline. It's the good Lord's timeline, and I think we need to abide. So we'll try and
[01:50:32] Unknown:
friend Joe Williams. Friend Joe Williams has, like, 50,000 followers on Facebook. Yeah. So Okay. Are on YouTube.
[01:50:41] Unknown:
Yeah. So it might be worthwhile to I wonder how many how he's been able to keep that going over there with all if if he his language is bad and everything else over all their filters, but evidently, he has, so good on him. Yeah. Tell him to reach out if you're in contact with him.
[01:51:00] Unknown:
Yeah. And I I have.
[01:51:02] Unknown:
Alright. Good deal. So we got about ten minutes left. You can who can help? I can help. Is that that Billy Swan song? I heard, Paul play that six months ago. I can help. That's okay.
[01:51:18] Unknown:
Yep.
[01:51:19] Unknown:
I got your watcher.
[01:51:21] Unknown:
Alright. Now hold on. Now in all fairness Will I hear I put Dave for a moment? I put Dave on the back burner there and forgot about him. My apologies. So he's gonna take some precedence. Dave,
[01:51:35] Unknown:
go ahead. That's alright. Thanks, Roger. For Gary, I don't know if you're still on here, Gary, but, you know, doc would doc Wahlke would be mad at me if I didn't say this. So you're on some pretty heavy duty, antibiotics. And you know I don't you may or may not know, but it's killing everything in your gut. So Yep. Youngevity's got a product, Ultimate Microbiome, that rebuilds the gut. Okay? And so after you take maybe an hour or two after your antibiotics, you need to do a dose of the ultimate microbiome and then to rebuild your immune system. Your immune system starts in your bone marrow, and it's made out of collagen.
Youngevity's collagen peptides, it's like four or five different types of collagen, and it's potent stuff. And, that will not only rebuild your bone marrow, which is your immune system, it goes into the gut and it it definitely that that collagen peptides is for the gut as well. So look at that and, I'll shut up now. Thanks.
[01:52:41] Unknown:
Alright. There you go. All that. I hope Gary and Jean I know Jean is taking good care of you.
[01:52:48] Unknown:
And you can always go back and listen to the replay in case you missed it. Is that Dan that's trying to say something right there? Dan. Yeah. And and it'll be super quick. I can vouch for Brandon Joe Williams. He shoots from the hip, and he's Okay. He's got a good following because he he helps people wake up to the fact that it's all messed up. And he did it with plenty of humor because he calls his website. I'm not even gonna say it on here. It's just it's just funny what what he does, and it attracts more people to get attention. You can say it on here. Yep.
[01:53:17] Unknown:
A one stupid spot. Stupid four letter f word.
[01:53:22] Unknown:
Okay. Yep. 1stupid.com. It's just and and he does swear too much. However, Cameron Wilson, who and Joe Lusticka and he were best friends. They're they're good friends. They're close friends. They they started the thing together before it got big and Brandon had to sort of branch off and do stuff. But they're actually real close friends. And then Cameron Wilson, who I'm on their Wyzedome with, we've created a group called the Wyzedome. Wyzedome. Right? Hundreds of us that are that are fighting in court. We're the ones that say, let's go to court. Let's go let's go on all these traffic things. His whole thing is traffic reform, and it's about freedom. And he was also saying that he told me he was like, damn, tell Roger that maybe if he could come and be a guest on our WyzeDome at some point. So I just texted him, hey. We're on now in case you can hop on. I put the message on the on the DeepScored service, so 300 people potentially will see that message. And,
[01:54:17] Unknown:
what do I do? Just have them email you and say, would you come on our Wednesday night show or our Saturday morning? Email me. Yeah. That's usually the way those contacts are initiated. You could do it over the air if he wants to come on, but,
[01:54:30] Unknown:
I'm It was late. I got I just Too hard about five minutes ago. I doubt. Yeah. It'll be on the call. But,
[01:54:37] Unknown:
yeah, I'm always open to talk our stuff to an audience. Might do what now? Absolutely.
[01:54:43] Unknown:
Which email and then I'll yield. They've all I've only got one. I forgot it. It's just you say it.
[01:54:52] Unknown:
Okay. Radioranch,nospace,@mail,mail,.com.
[01:54:59] Unknown:
Do we have a click through on the website to that, Paul? Got it. No. I got it. Okay. Just in the contact. I saved it. I Okay. Well, I was still I was sure Gmail.
[01:55:09] Unknown:
Okay. Yeah. Please don't send it to those bandits. That was my Paul, do we have a click through on that for get in touch with Garage on the website?
[01:55:19] Unknown:
No. We don't. I do believe your email address is up there, but we don't have, like, a A click. Well, if it's Click here. Then here. No. If it's up there, then then, you know, that'll suffice.
[01:55:31] Unknown:
Regardless, I can understand that the the, yes, Larry?
[01:55:36] Unknown:
Yeah. I'd like to, go back to this necessity defense because every time the whole driver's license thing comes up, inevitably the whole necessity defense comes into play. And I just want to read a couple of things that I researched. I don't agree that you can apply the necessity defense to a get to applying for a driver's license. So the whole key to the necessity defense is an actor did something that would be considered illegal in order to avoid a greater evil. There is nothing illegal about obtaining a driver's license. No one is forcing you to do it by obtaining it. Although one believes
[01:56:18] Unknown:
excuse me?
[01:56:19] Unknown:
It's voluntary.
[01:56:21] Unknown:
That's right. Although one believes there is the potential threat of being harmed or ticketed at a traffic stop, it is still not considered to be illegal. There are six elements that must be shown to have existed in order to make a necessity defense claim. Now here's the explanation in the law of what a necessity defense is. In criminal law, a necessity defense claims the actors illegal conduct was the necessary lesser of two evils in a situation threatening specific harm to the actor or others. According to California jury instructions, a successful necessity defense must prove six elements and all of these elements have to be present. Number one, the actor acted to prevent injury to the actor or someone else. Number two, the actor had no reasonable alternative.
Number three, the actor did not create greater danger than the danger avoided. Number four, the actor actually believed the illegal conduct was necessary to prevent the threatened harm or evil. Number five, a reasonable person would have also believed the illegal conduct was necessary in the circumstances. And finally, number six, the actor did not substantially contribute to the emergency
[01:57:53] Unknown:
by yield.
[01:57:56] Unknown:
Alright. And, Roger, if I may, real quick for Larry. Larry, have you seen any actors get killed on the side of the road for not having a driver's license? I yield.
[01:58:08] Unknown:
The the whole point heard about it. When I'm when I'm when I'm making the point on necessity, I'm seeing you're accepting it out of necessity. Whole different than me rejecting it. You're accepting it out of necessity. There's a difference there. Yeah. And it's not a modern a modern interpretation of what necessity is. It's an old con law. It's, you know I mean, Roger, have have you ever read, US eight eight US code section 15 o two? Do you have an opinion on it? I I I wouldn't know what if I if I read it, I wouldn't remember it. I I don't know. American national. I don't know. I'll sum it up for you. It basically says if you can prove you're an American national, they have to give you a certificate, and, specifically, trouble with the law and you need to prove it. Okay.
[01:59:07] Unknown:
No. I wasn't familiar with that.
[01:59:10] Unknown:
I have people say that if I were in a court to me a better way to go about
[01:59:14] Unknown:
it instead of going into these courts. You know, venue is also something that people are probably not familiar with your regional, meaning of venue, that was your neighborhood. If there were jurors, if there was, witnesses and stuff, that that were coming in there, they couldn't be from somewhere else. They had pretty much know you, know who you were and stuff. And Makes total sense to me.
[01:59:43] Unknown:
Yeah. Roger, didn't you say that as a national certificate I got it. For a national, but they don't anymore because of the cost of ink?
[01:59:52] Unknown:
Well, the now and paper. That's what they say in there. It wasn't I don't believe it was for us. I think it was for American Samoans.
[02:00:02] Unknown:
No. They they said that they don't issue certificates of noncitizen nationality because of ink and stuff. But if you do have a problem with the powers that be and you need the secretary of state to send, validation that you are a national to this specific agent, they will do that.
[02:00:25] Unknown:
I think that's part of their deal. They've got to if it's requested, like, in a court case or something. I don't know we've ever used it before. Yes, Martha?
[02:00:35] Unknown:
The code says the secretary of state is authorized to issue in his his discretion and in accordance to with rules and regulations prescribed by him, a certificate of nationality for any person not a naturalized citizen of The United States who presents satisfactory evidence that he is an American national and that the search certificate is needed for for use in judicial or administrative proceedings in a foreign state. Abram brought this up
[02:01:08] Unknown:
a while ago. It looks probably legitimate. C 15 o two. We get you we get you guys in one of these court cases you need to like, Mike Nail. This is something Mike Nail ought to bring under out out.
[02:01:21] Unknown:
I think we could use it now if we're getting harassed or trespassed on. I mean, I'm sure it's the answer.
[02:01:28] Unknown:
Mike Nail is probably the premier person I can think of. So, okay. Well, obviously, we're off the air. May I?
[02:01:36] Unknown:
Yes, ma'am. Sure. Mark, what you just stated is that you're leaving it to his discretion. And about the jury He's the lord of the matter.
[02:01:49] Unknown:
He's the lord of the matter. You can do that.
[02:01:52] Unknown:
Oh, Sherry,
[02:01:53] Unknown:
back now. Only upon please. Only upon your statement. I'm talking about the judges.
[02:02:01] Unknown:
Sure. You're you're twisting my words around. I was just No. That's
[02:02:10] Unknown:
Alright. Doing the secretary
[02:02:12] Unknown:
of state's office. It's Sherry, please. God. Question. Okay. Sherry, what do you want? Something and wedge it between your head and your phone? Sherry? Muder? Change your phone. I have my thumb there now. Does that help?
[02:02:28] Unknown:
Yeah. No. Your home phone your home phone doesn't do that. Change to the home phone.
[02:02:34] Unknown:
Muter.
[02:02:35] Unknown:
I'm not even I'm Oh, whatever. I'm going to eat lunch. I'm gonna let y'all hash
[02:02:40] Unknown:
hash this out. Roger, the the way I read 15 o two is his discretion means you have to prove it. So upon proof, he's supposed to issue that certificate.
[02:02:54] Unknown:
Alright. Well, that affidavit, send him another copy of the affidavit later on in that or or up there in the body of the letter. They say they don't do these anymore and to go get a passport. So, I don't know. I don't know if that overrides the statute or not. That might be their policy. I always thought it was exclusively for American Samoans, but you know what? I'm gonna let you guys hash it out.
[02:03:21] Unknown:
And just write it to you, Rogers, American National.
[02:03:25] Unknown:
I have a comment. Okay.
[02:03:27] Unknown:
I I Mark, I made a simple statement. I always thought that the certificate of noncitizen nationality was pretty much exclusively for the American Samoans because of the way it's worded and what it says. K? Right. Personally, that's what I always did. Okay? Yeah. And it may be that that it is in the statutes, but that policy statement overrides it with policy instead of law. I I don't know. I don't know. Yeah. K? Right. I'll see y'all tomorrow. Bye.
[02:04:05] Unknown:
Thank you, Roger. Is this better, people? And I call you people. It's not any better?
[02:04:14] Unknown:
Yes. Yes. It's better. But, I wanna, like, settle one thing. Just because, you're seeking a declaratory judgment from a judge certificate of non citizen nationality, you're not doing that, asking their permission to be a national. You are a national, period. What you're doing is you are asking them to keep their monkeys in line, to provide the proof and evidence that you need to keep their monkeys in line. The magistrates in Arkansas or Alabama that refused to accept an affidavit. Whoever. Whoever. What you're doing is you are just getting the documentation ahead of time to make sure that you've got something to feed somebody that thinks they're going to harvest you and stop them dead in their tracks.
[02:05:36] Unknown:
Look at it as a rubber stamp.
[02:05:41] Unknown:
Well, this begs the question. If they let's say you go through a common law default on them and, you turn that into a lease agreement where they're leasing your pull away or cease and desist, even from is sending your property tax bill. Why can't we turn that into a lease? This is what the IPIDE system is about And, you know, non proven territorial jurisdiction, so it's, like, jurisdiction over, yeah, over a national, you will you will, you'd be happy to, you know so you can provide the the claim that gives them, say, right to property tax or blah blah blah, then you will happy to do that. Then they don't do it by default. You then turn that into a lease agreement, and, they can they can cancel lease at any time. But by their silence, they back west to a contract just like they do with us in a yield.
[02:06:46] Unknown:
Mhmm. Don't you think that that's why they compartmentalize everything? Definitions for this code, definitions for that title. That way, they're never pinned in. And so do you have to, go to them and have them rubber stamp who you are, or is that done in one fell swoop with that affidavit, which I commend Roger, you know, seeing that in that application to leave the country, which is kind of odd, isn't it? If you're free, why do you have to ask permission for documentation? Other than that enables you to come back and be recognized?
[02:07:42] Unknown:
That begs the question. What if that certificate of nationality got sent? You had secretary say send that to your local county, where your tax bill is generated. Take it, send send it to your why not have them do all the administrative work? Why do we happen to send out copies of everything? You know? If if we're if they're trespassing on the status, and the status correction, you know, it's their job to administer their public service. So if they're if this is all federal territory that we're on, you know, and they're gonna they're gonna keep presuming that, why not have the secretary of state notice? I know it says in our affidavit that they should, you know, it serves as a permanent record.
But why not send them a demand to, you know, go tell on the mountain? Go make sure you proclaim us to everybody that my and you could put your Social Security number in there or whatever, you know, that this number, you know, touches so that it's all it's basically do not detain. It's basically do not tax any unapportion tax. Why isn't why why is it our why is it our job?
[02:09:00] Unknown:
Correct. And you know what I say? All these people involved in the court case subpoena the secretary of state and or the records I yield?
[02:09:13] Unknown:
The administrators should administrate their duties with clean hands, I yield.
[02:09:20] Unknown:
Fair enough. But let us start subpoenaing these people that have the answer, that have your affidavit on file.
[02:09:32] Unknown:
Yes. And I've heard that, Sherry. Yep. I've heard that. The attorney general and also the secretary of state. Yep. I've heard to do that. Hey. I'm not a party to this case, but I think, you know, the secretary of state probably and the attorney general probably have an interest here. Well, absolutely. Take it up with them. You know? Talk to the talk to the prostitute that way.
[02:09:54] Unknown:
Well, they have an authority over all things dealing with, citizenship status. So they have exculpatory evidence. Sabina.
[02:10:10] Unknown:
Does does Excuse me. Status
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relate to your identity, I yield.
[02:10:21] Unknown:
But because you've told them who you are, that's how they ID you. Gary? They're not recognizing it.
[02:10:31] Unknown:
Hello, Sketch. Could you put in the chat again that you put in yesterday about the VIN diagrams that where we can find those? Yes.
[02:10:45] Unknown:
I I just
[02:10:47] Unknown:
Yes. It's I just listened to the It's I just listened to the replay, so I wasn't able to get that. Thank you.
[02:10:55] Unknown:
Yes. I will. And it's it's pretty simple here. I put it in the chat today. I think it's either republican let me just see here. It's it's called dadarepublican.com, and I will put it in the chat again. Dadarepublican.com. And she's a savant, And they doxed her, and now she has to have protection because she is exposing the people, the individuals with identities, and they're pilfering and their drifting high yield. But I did want to say I wanted to say one question on the doctrine of necessity. There was a doctor in Australia who was providing providing gym pay a cannabis paste for autistic children and other people with cancer.
He used the the doctrine of necessity to repel, like, four or five felonies with, like, fifteen years in jail, and he won using the doctrine of necessity. I yield. Thank you so much.
[02:12:13] Unknown:
Do you know what doctor that's from, Sketch?
[02:12:16] Unknown:
I can find it for you, Julie. It's been a while, but, yes, I can.
[02:12:21] Unknown:
Because doctor Robert o Young is facing, I don't know, fifteen, thirty years in jail.
[02:12:27] Unknown:
You're in The US?
[02:12:29] Unknown:
Yeah. For what? For eating avocados? If
[02:12:33] Unknown:
you go to doctor Robert o Young's website, I think it's d r Robert Young, he's got extensive experience in micro microscopy and in natural healing and getting people he wrote the book, The PH Miracle. They arrested him again. So I think he's in San Francisco right now and they did not grant him bail. He's sitting behind bars. And these people were, like, stage four cancers. They charged him with practicing without a license.
[02:13:10] Unknown:
Wow. Gary, keep an eye on your email. I'm gonna I'm gonna send you, well, let's see. Is there a way that I can tell you this without getting locked up myself? I have I have heard, this is not, medical advice, and, this program is not intended to treat, diagnose, prevent, or cure any disease. But I have heard of successful use, with respect to infections of various kinds. Silver, colloidal silver, colloidal silver aloe gel, silver lawn cloth, chlorine diox. Do you know what I mean? I do believe that there's a book by Jim Humble. I don't have to tell you, you know, what he's talking about, but there's a book by Jim Humble. And if you were to Google Jim Humble, I'm sure that you would find out exactly what what he would suggest in that case.
But, there's there's a lot of, there's, actually, go to the go to docs dot expose the matrix and, look for the folder CDS. That's Charlie delta Sierra. Look in that folder, and you will find a lot of information that may be interesting. It may not be. But it's either way, it's a good way to kill an afternoon if you got nothing better to do. But I would suggest that it'd be more important than that. Okay? That that's all I can say without actually going to jail. So check that out.
[02:15:22] Unknown:
I have a question.
[02:15:26] Unknown:
Yeah.
[02:15:27] Unknown:
Who are we? And are we tired of doing the two step or sitting on the Doesn't matter. Offense or defense?
[02:15:37] Unknown:
And Well, we just talked about that before.
[02:15:40] Unknown:
Why do you fear them? I yield.
[02:15:43] Unknown:
We'd I don't fear them, but I'm not gonna poke the bear. I'm not gonna give them an opportunity to proceed on presumption and destroy my life just because they're gonna think that I am I have to defend myself. I just don't want I don't want that imperial entanglement. Okay? You know, I know they're bullshit. I know their their heads are so far up their butts that I should be able to shut them down very quickly, but we've got two examples of people that have, like, turned over the sum total of their entire lives for the last year at least just because they have some administrator that is proceeding on presumption and just making their life hell. I don't need that.
I don't fear them. I'm not giving them ammunition to think they have something on me.
[02:16:42] Unknown:
That's fair enough, Paul. But I will say this. Right now, you have the ability to choose what battlefield you are on. And if you don't stand up, it will become bloody a yield.
[02:17:01] Unknown:
Okay. Well, some of the some of the things that may or may not have been mentioned within the last thirty minutes on this program, could lead to, cures to incurable diseases. And I I know we're not even supposed to use the c word, but because I'm a national, I'm gonna use the c word. But, the complete eliminations of certain certain things that they say is fixable, ineliminatable. Okay? Certain things they say, yo, once you got this, you're gonna have it for the rest of your life, albeit how short it's gonna be. Okay? And that is what they're going after Robert Young for, because he is for because he is doing that c word to things that they, have a whole financial interest in seeing no alternative treatments.
So I don't know. I don't want the whole of FDA and the whole freaking, pharmaceutical industry on my ass at this particular juncture. I can think of better things to do with my time.
[02:18:15] Unknown:
Well, I don't think Doctor precedes you, your name. And Robert Young, as a doctor, has to proceed under their operation of law. So, yes, maybe he is in a pickle.
[02:18:31] Unknown:
Okay. He was a doctor. He was a doctor, but he either had his license revoked for speaking out against allopathic medicine or he voluntarily surrendered it. Otherwise, their charges of practicing medicine without a license wouldn't hold water.
[02:19:00] Unknown:
I just wanted to throw in here, like, it's one thing if they're writing a document and they wanna use, say, terms like person, which are ambiguous as can be. It's thrown all over the place in the constitution, and they don't spell out what it means in this different articles, etcetera. When you're writing your document, why would you use a term that's so loose? You should say that you're a man or a woman. I mean, how simple can that get? It's not their document, it's yours, and you're either a man or a woman. I just don't get why there would be an argument about that.
[02:19:42] Unknown:
Right. That's that's why I brought up the word identity. Identify as a turtle on a post. I'm a terrapin. I yield.
[02:19:57] Unknown:
Pronouns only.
[02:20:01] Unknown:
Yeah. That's gotten us Not now. Quite nicely in trouble.
[02:20:05] Unknown:
I was being facetious.
[02:20:08] Unknown:
Sixty million babies are dead because of that word. I'd avoid it.
[02:20:28] Unknown:
Well, say Yeah. My job is that. Go ahead. Hope you, appreciated my conversation about identity because, you know, I just I don't think person and identity are the same words, but, yeah, identity identifies the person. So that's why I was bringing it up by you.
[02:20:57] Unknown:
Yeah. Well, C sketch, that's where you're going back to man's words. If you use and it's still man's word that read the scripture. But person, identity, those are all men describing how the people shall be controlled. So I disagree with you. We should not use their language.
[02:21:34] Unknown:
Man's language? Okay. I'll try that.
[02:21:44] Unknown:
Men who are trying to impose their will on you, that's whose language you should avoid. I yield.
[02:21:53] Unknown:
Well, all men are sinners, so, good luck.
[02:22:00] Unknown:
That's why he adhere to the scripture. He does not lie to you, and he has no sin within him.
[02:22:13] Unknown:
Yes, Sketch. I I I appreciate that. I, I I'm just distracted right now. I'm looking at my car because I put my truck because I think I got a head gasket leak, and I'm trying to decide whether, just do it with mechanic in the can because I really don't wanna take the head off.
[02:22:32] Unknown:
Well, maybe I hope your Unimog has a winch. You can raise that thing up.
[02:22:37] Unknown:
Unimog just sits on the property. I only use it around here. You know? I don't this is what I use for work and stuff. So but yes. I mean, I'm not trying to make anything complicated in my life, and I just think if you enter into terms, which are really used to hurt us, person was used to hurt us, we shouldn't use it. And when it comes to venue, you know, I that means your neighborhood, and I I don't think these courts are our neighborhood. I think that's Satan's neighborhood. I really don't wanna go there. So I think if we can keep it to people who also might understand. I don't think the courts understand much at that lower level.
I think that if you go you're going to your state attorney general or or what have you, there maybe there's better places to go. But whoever's the highest authority has the research ability to take a look at your argument. And if you state your argument with a time clause that they have to respond and if they don't respond, they're in agreement, then I think then you're set up to be able to obeyed it much better. And that's sort of how I look at the whole thing. I I again, the basement's outside of outside of the court, the non statutory abatement. And that's just how I'm looking, like, for myself. I'm not saying that anybody has to understand or to or agree with me. I just, it's just my feeling right now from what I've seen so far. And then aligning yourself with your creator is where I want my allegiance first, and they need to know that.
And as long as the state's not breaking God's laws, I can go along with the state. You know? But those are the kinds of things I wanna tell them in my notice. And, you know, it's pretty simple stuff, really.
[02:24:35] Unknown:
Yep. It sure is. And, the the reason I brought up I mean, I I might have butted heads with Mark on the all caps and the name, but I I'm I'm not going to the name. I'm going to the identity. Now the all caps name is an is an identity. So is your Christian name. That's a different identity. And that's the only reason I was bringing up the word identity today because there's some obfuscation or some confusion between the two. And I was trying to noodle it out with Roger, and, I hope it helped everybody because I that's all I was trying to do. I wasn't trying to upset him at all, I yield. You know, every everybody says, you know,
[02:25:28] Unknown:
Satan is the great deceiver or copier, and, I think I'll go even a little further. I think that upper case name is Satan's representation of you without the soul, without the flesh, without the blood, and that's why you need to be using that Christian name.
[02:25:51] Unknown:
I concur. I agree. And, Julie, I don't know if you're there, but I did put a Yandex leak with the search term Australian cannabis doctor uses the doctrine of necessity to defend charges. And his his information came up. I yield. Thank you. Thank you. And if by any chance you get to a video of his interview of him, he makes a very profound statement. He says, man has all these big, big ideas, but our brains are so small, we cannot solve those problems that we create. I yield.
[02:26:45] Unknown:
Well, the the doctrine of necessity and the maxim for it is necessity knows no law.
[02:26:56] Unknown:
Well, I think that the HotDoc's, argument using the necessity was something like this. Your laws are preventing me from helping young children. I have proven that I am helping them. That is why I'm breaking your that is why it's a necessity for me to break your laws because your laws are unjust.
[02:27:19] Unknown:
And he would be protected under God's law for doing so.
[02:27:23] Unknown:
Yes.
[02:27:26] Unknown:
Amen.
[02:27:36] Unknown:
And we've had I'm a change the subject. Sorry. Yesterday, Roger brought up the secret computers that are printing money out of thread thin air. I thought that was I read a little bit of the article today. I was like, oh, so they actually do print money out of thin air, and it has nothing to do with the bonds, I yield.
[02:28:01] Unknown:
Right.
[02:28:07] Unknown:
Samuel, could I ask you about, your use of postal orders? If you have a where in Stanford or other work that you found that that is treasury money as opposed to a reserve amount. I've heard the same, but I don't know where I can't remember where the site form was. The nature of my question to Samuel was, if it's true that postal money orders are the lawful money still,
[02:29:26] Unknown:
gold and silver. Does that mean that as a national,
[02:29:32] Unknown:
we can't instruct Treasury to convert any of our Federal Reserve notes, currencies and all that jazz back to gold and silver. We can't do that because there is a remedy. We just go down to the Federal Post Office and get a federal money order And that would be the remedy I yield.
[02:30:06] Unknown:
Yeah. And another thing I'd like to mention is is, you know, Gaius might have been great for the Caesars, but, you know, this is when he was he was coming up with the law and the law of persons of free men and slaves and the patricians. But it was right in the middle of the Caesars. They were already in a dictatorship. And if you read the book of the hundreds, they say this is exactly what Lincoln did. He took us from common law into Roman military law, and it's pretty you know, the Romans have always been military law. I mean, really, it's it's like when Constantine became empire, they went from three hundred years of of killing Christians to now if you're not a Christian, we're gonna kill you.
So if if you want that kind of law, I guess, you know, just ask Lincoln how well it worked. I mean, he, that's what he did. I think we've he suffered from it. So
[02:31:15] Unknown:
Well, I think we should change the name from Caesar to Dickus Dickus, I yield.
[02:31:28] Unknown:
Yeah. There there's so much about history that we god. I thought I knew history until you really start I've been really doing a lot more deep digging into the bible and what the times were like and this and that at different stages, even the old testament to try to understand the circumstances and why they were writing the way they were writing and, you know, what the translations really are, what things are allegories that we we just accept as being what they said they were. It it's amazing. I mean, there's a there's there's a a piece that doesn't have a lot of way to really determine what it meant, but there are pieces to it that you can sort of try to figure out what it but it's Exodus four twenty four through 26.
God has just after Moses was a meeting, he's on his way over to, Egypt. The line just before 24 is how God's telling Moses, well, you're you're gonna confront Pharaoh. Pharaoh, I'm gonna harden his heart. He's gonna reject you, and you and you're gonna end up killing his firstborn son. The next sentence, 24, God's angry with Moses and ready to kill him. And his wife, Zipporah, grabs a flint knife, cuts off the, there's a circumcision on on Gershom, her son, Moses' son, and throws it at Moses' feet. And then God lets him alone, and that's all it really says. Now why would God do that? Why would God pick Moses? It's been eighty years to get him to this point and then be ready to kill him.
And you you start looking doing the research on this, there's all kinds of hidden things here. First off, there's the the feet was a polite way of of saying genitals because, you know, it's just like in in Genesis when they're talking about sexual relationship, they call it knowing each other. Well, they do that in the bible all over the place when it comes to, touchy subjects like that. So first off, she if it's correct and the translation is true, then the feet were actually Moses's genitals. So she bloodied his genitals. And you and then there's other people who are looking at, well, listen. If you look at when Moses was born, his mother was was probably trying to make him acceptable to the Egyptians, so he probably didn't get circumcised. Right? And then she put him in the basket, put him on down the thing, but when he's found, she recognizes that it's a Hebrew boy. I mean but maybe he wasn't circumcised.
Then it gets even deeper because they the Egyptians circumcised as well, especially in the higher ranks, which he would have been. But they split the foreskin. They didn't cut it all off. So it starts to when you start looking at all the possibilities of about a couple of verses, you know, I I spent hours on looking into that and you start to get a different picture of what was really going on here. Not not to mention that God was in a hurry to get Moses to Egypt because he was dragging his feet. And if he would have would have circumcised him then and there, he probably would have been laid up for a while.
[02:35:27] Unknown:
So, anyway, it's just
[02:35:29] Unknown:
you know, we believe things that we've always been told it's a certain way, and, we're at a at a time now when there's so much more available to us research wise and stuff. And, like, I I was thinking about that 80,000 pages. Well, somebody could easily now feed that through, ChatGPT and say give me a synopsis for every 500 pages. You know? May I break How long would that take?
[02:36:02] Unknown:
Breaking news.
[02:36:04] Unknown:
Breaking news. Active shooter reported at the CIA headquarters in Langley, Virginia.
[02:36:10] Unknown:
False flag. False flag.
[02:36:12] Unknown:
False flag. Yep. It's on text. I'll post it in the, link so people, if they wanna see the live video, they can. Oh, I can't wait.
[02:36:24] Unknown:
Samuel Samuel, I think the conversation and I have a question. I've been speaking to your conference on certain decision. But, does it have to do with the, well, let's just I'm gonna I'm gonna give you a different example. Shooter. Active shooter. Okay. Thank you. Active shooter. Yeah. Yeah. Samuel, I'm gonna bring up, the topic of female circumcision in in Africa, and that has to do a lot with power. So does the circumcision that you're talking about have to do with power? And I would say yes. Do you disagree?
[02:37:15] Unknown:
Well, that was all about God's covenant. Now how my mom figured out as a Catholic that I needed this, procedure is beyond me. But then again, there's that joke. You know, what's the difference between a Catholic and a Lutheran? A Lutheran reads the Bible from the beginning to the end.
[02:37:36] Unknown:
Okay. So let me rephrase my question. Is the covenant about power? Sure.
[02:37:45] Unknown:
Okay. God's power and God and your and your loving allegiance with your creator.
[02:37:51] Unknown:
Thank you. And coming on on the CA, well, they don't have guns, do they? Oh my god. They can't defend themselves. We need more government.
[02:38:21] Unknown:
I have a question that you know, I don't think Carl is still on here. But, did y'all did anybody hear him say, that that passport card that he used to give the policeman when he got pulled over, it it that passport card had been obtained obtained by him with his affidavit? Yes. I can. Oh, okay. Okay. Thank you.
[02:38:49] Unknown:
Yeah. I'm I'm back on for a few minutes. Sorry. I had to go. Yes. I've got my my passport obtained with my affidavit, and I've got a letter sent to the secretary of state, doing a personal FOIA request to verify that I am listed as a national. I'm waiting for that to come through also.
[02:39:15] Unknown:
Okay. Great. Thank you.
[02:39:22] Unknown:
May I? This is Eva. I had a question about finding out about my status as the endorsement, the o six that I got before I even sent my affidavit. So is that how I would get more information as to why I'm a diplomatic courier?
[02:39:49] Unknown:
Yeah. You'd have to send a request on that, just a personal request, for you. And I'm for you. And I do know I don't trust those numbers. Mine is listed as a, I think, 12, if I recall, which has nothing to do with the, you know, it expires when I turn 18. I'm well over 18 years old. So Okay. I didn't know if I put
[02:40:24] Unknown:
significance on this at all or just try to find out some information or just resubmit, with the DS 80 2 and just see what happens.
[02:40:37] Unknown:
Eva, I will say this. There was someone that came on, called the secretary of state, and he asked them all about the numbers. And then I think, George forty four said it's classified. They won't tell you what they mean.
[02:40:57] Unknown:
And, also,
[02:41:00] Unknown:
there is a, I forget, there's a link from the state department explaining all the codes supposedly. And, I think it's on the ESDM site. I forget what it's called, but somebody might be able to recall. Also, the person that called, the secretary of state office or the state department, and he hung up and he said, well, you know, he told them, I think, as long as you have my affidavit, I don't care what numbers are on there. So, you know, you can worry about being as five stars belly snake if you want, but,
[02:41:41] Unknown:
I'm not worrying about it. I don't think either should you. You're wasting your time. I yield. Yeah. That's what I wanna know. Just don't even worry about it. That's what I'm thinking. Just send it in with my status correction and my affidavit.
[02:41:58] Unknown:
I agree.
[02:42:00] Unknown:
Okay.
[02:42:03] Unknown:
But I'm a one star, at least I mean, if you wanna know.
[02:42:08] Unknown:
May I? I'm a I'm a three star.
[02:42:11] Unknown:
Go ahead. Hey, Eva. It's Eva. Right? Yes. Yeah. It might be. I don't know. It could be connected to your individual master file that's over at the IRS. I'm not sure, but I have a friend who had all those numbers decoded. There's some place online where you can get the individual mass those numbers uncoded, and they had him listed as a commercial driver of mail out of the Virgin Islands. And, of course, he's never been a commercial driver, but a commercial driver of mail. So I don't know if that's possibly it could be tied to your IRS number, but I'm not sure. I'm just thinking out loud, brainstorming. Thank you. Okay. Thank you. Which seems since you you Julie, you brought that information.
[02:42:58] Unknown:
Seems like I missed, a a a a, example of stolen identity.
[02:43:05] Unknown:
Yeah.
[02:43:07] Unknown:
If I may.
[02:43:08] Unknown:
Mhmm.
[02:43:10] Unknown:
Absolutely. That's exactly what it is. Stolen identity, a %. And then, and then renamed, stolen property so that you can't find it.
[02:43:22] Unknown:
So is that the same as stolen personhood?
[02:43:25] Unknown:
Yep. I think so. Just
[02:43:28] Unknown:
asking for an identity freak.
[02:43:33] Unknown:
I'd like to comment on those stars. You know, the sheets of plastic that they punch those cards out of, I don't think they're I think the stars are random on the plastic and, you know, you get what you get, whatever they punch out that card. I'm not sure about the codes and all that. You know, that I don't is that on you know, the breakdown of the codes? Is that found on the Department of State website, or did somebody come up with that on another website? I yes.
[02:44:07] Unknown:
I think it's EEDSM. Alright. I'm not maybe saying saying it right, but, It's FAM,
[02:44:16] Unknown:
endorsement. You put in FAMF As In Frank, A As In Apple, M As In Mary. I'm trying to find it right now because Sheldon is the one that told me about it and I had oops. I didn't mean to do that. Coercive control. Funny. Go away. Where is it? Well, anyway, Sheldon has it. And I had just learned of it a couple days ago. So if I could, yeah, maybe find how do you get your master file from the IRS?
[02:44:53] Unknown:
I would Google that. I would just say, it's called an individual master file. Okay. And isn't it funny that IMF is the same thing as the International Monetary Fund, which is the collector for all this stuff? I just know that I have a friend who, went to court and lost. He wasn't a national at all and he didn't know how. He didn't have he hired an attorney and he lost his case, but they did dissect his master file. And I know there's websites out there, and I don't know how reliable they are, but the one that he told me about a long time ago seemed to be pretty reliable from what I had seen. It was pretty reliable and it had good reviews. But I think that Roger told us not to worry about that stuff. We won't disclaim our status. That is our status and it doesn't matter what they have us listed Right. They can do whatever they want to, but we are nationals. Yeah. So it's it's probably random and just goofy and nothing's connected.
Well, no. I think that I don't know. I think they have you and me. Everybody who's born here with our birth certificates when we when they put those in the warehouse, I think what Sketch said is they reclassify us into a commercial, UCC codes or whatever so that they can so that every time we step into a courtroom, we contract with them and that goes back to the straw man. That goes all the way back to the straw man, stuff are all caps named. Okay. So I could be wrong. I could be wrong, but I really think we are the debtors and the creditors. I think our all caps straw man name, we're the debtor and our, regular name, we're the creditor that they're trading our labor on the market or they're using our labor and taxing us for the for that portion.
So but I I don't I don't haven't figured out that those puzzle pieces yet.
[02:46:55] Unknown:
Well, I'd like to volunteer since I'm at the stage now. On Monday, I became a national according to, you know, the mail being delivered. And so, you know, fixing to get ready to send notices, but I like this idea of contacting the secretary of state and getting a certificate and then attaching that to my notices plus a cover letter educating them. Is there anybody that would be willing to work together? And I have studied equity before with clean hands and good faith, you know, saying it in in, like, a prayer is what I was taught, in the name of my most high.
And it seemed very powerful. I've had success a couple times with that.
[02:47:54] Unknown:
I will work with you. Okay. I I I don't, what was I gonna say? I haven't done my passport yet, but I Oh. Need my citizen you know, my affidavit of citizenship evidence. I just haven't gotten around to doing my passport yet because, I am going to I have an existing passport, that I may need to use, And I don't wanna I don't wanna I just don't wanna monkey around with it yet. I've got some time. So I wanna just use the one I have right now and then, you know, deal with that afterwards because I really honestly don't have any intentions of traveling.
[02:48:32] Unknown:
Yeah. But isn't it important to I mean, isn't that Rogers like second step where we cement this in or you don't?
[02:48:42] Unknown:
Your letter that you send to the secretary of state and all the letters that you copy for the various officials in the state, that makes you a national. You're that has nothing to do with your passport. It's just, you know yep. You are So I could just even let it ride and not even do the passport? Yeah. You're you're a national
[02:49:02] Unknown:
Okay. So then I could just start noticing.
[02:49:05] Unknown:
Yeah. You you don't even have to do your passport. Just start noticing all these. I did them all at once. I didn't even wait.
[02:49:11] Unknown:
Promise.
[02:49:13] Unknown:
And your and your and your status becomes status the day that you mail it, not the day it was received. Oh, okay.
[02:49:21] Unknown:
Oh, I thought it was when they received it. Nope. I thought that when you mail it. Oh, okay. Well, that's good.
[02:49:28] Unknown:
Joe, I'm asking you.
[02:49:30] Unknown:
What'd you say?
[02:49:32] Unknown:
I'm asking you for Joe. Hey, on your timing as far as doing a passport or not and letting it ride, If you don't this this is Carl, and this is the issue I had is I got pulled over the day I received the passport, yet I hadn't yet received it because it was in the mailbox. They will not When you get pulled over, you're forced into giving that driver's license. They will not accept you as a national without it unless you fight in court and go to the next level. But in court, they would I would strongly say they will not accept it. You can you can try with with, you know, writing becoming a paper tiger and writing notices to the court, but the judge likely will not read those notices.
And so you'll end up with, like I did, a warrant because the judge decided not to read your papers. So that's why you wanna get your passport ASAP. Yeah. Now with Julie get yeah. Julie said she didn't wanna mess with her passport. You don't have to you don't have to send in your passport. You just have to send them your passport card when you're doing the update because it's the passport card that gets changed. The passport itself, they just they edit on the backside of the computer.
[02:51:12] Unknown:
So I could potentially still travel because I'll have my passport. I'm just with that with that 82,
[02:51:21] Unknown:
I just send the card because I didn't even read through it yet. Oh, perfect. Yes. Okay. And you can call and ask you can call and ask and verify to make sure I'm telling you correctly, but I'm pretty sure that is the case. And when you do just the card
[02:51:35] Unknown:
Hey, Carl.
[02:51:37] Unknown:
Is $30.40 dollars versus the $280.
[02:51:41] Unknown:
Okay. Yep. Yeah, Julie. Hey, Carl. Yeah. So I don't, my passport is about to expire, and it's ten years old. Can I just order a passport card since my passport I have right now is still active, and they'll send it to me?
[02:51:56] Unknown:
Yep. I don't see why not, but your passport itself will still expire unless you get a new passport. Yeah. You have to get get yeah. You have to renew.
[02:52:09] Unknown:
But if it's active right now and it's not expired, I just can't call and say, hey. I have, like, a card to go along with my passport?
[02:52:15] Unknown:
You absolutely get it. To wait. It seems like No. You you could do that. The money. The difference between the passport and passport card, the passport will only work if you're traveling to cap Canada or Mexico, and you can use it within The United States. But the passport booklet will get you anywhere in the world.
[02:52:37] Unknown:
Right. So if I just tell I I mean, my like I said, I have the whole entire passport, booklet. So if I want and I never got one of those cards, I can just say, hey. It's still active right now. I'd like a card to go along with my existing active book booklet. Is that something I can still do? Yes, Julie. Just pull out your d s what is it? 80 2 or 11, the one that's just a renewal,
[02:53:03] Unknown:
and renew your. And on the checkbox on the top, you just put passport card is the one you want renewed. Yeah. But I I'm talking about not renewing.
[02:53:12] Unknown:
I'm not I'm not talking about renew yeah. Go ahead.
[02:53:15] Unknown:
What I what I'm gonna say is they require your current pass port book to get the card. You have to submit that.
[02:53:27] Unknown:
That's what I figured. Recorded.
[02:53:29] Unknown:
Yep.
[02:53:31] Unknown:
But still I'm not gonna do that. Directly.
[02:53:34] Unknown:
And May I ask? No. I don't know how much time that will take. I would say with the postal service, couple weeks maybe. So make sure you keep a copy for your records before you send it off to them. I yield.
[02:53:52] Unknown:
May I? I just wanted to say that somebody the the best put in the chat, sole proprietorship equals straw man. I just wanted to put that out. Thank you.
[02:54:11] Unknown:
Yeah. I just write that in the chat for you guys.
[02:54:15] Unknown:
I don't know. Isn't that an ID sketch? I yield.
[02:54:22] Unknown:
Well, this is sketch in all caps, and the all caps does not confer jurisdiction, but it does confer identity. And in return, I think it confers jurisdiction, ideal.
[02:54:41] Unknown:
Which came first? Identity or jurisdiction? I'm curious.
[02:55:00] Unknown:
You should always get a passport card because you can be as free as you think you are, and you can put people on notice. You can come up with a laundry list five pages long of weaponization your position. But when there is a knock on your window, he wants there, then and now. And that's why you have the card, so you can time after time like Carla and I have done and then the passport is for the jurisdiction of the rest of the planet. You've got to have a card and they're only $30 there's no reason not to have one. And if you go the distance of that, which is very short, you got to make copies, about six of them. I'm
[02:55:50] Unknown:
done. May I Thank you. And I I'm just gonna speak to my situation, which was I had gotten a passport book because I was traveling abroad in two thousand and five. And so when I heard about Rogers' information about the affidavit and applying for your passport, couple of years ago, I had it for my birth certificate. I knew I had two copies somewhere. Couldn't find it. But I have my passport book, which was valid ID to renew it. And it was it within the ten year of expiration, so I went with the passport book. Now what I have found since then, it gives me the ability to refine my affidavit.
So I haven't done that yet, but there's something to be said for one or the other. But I had to go with the passport book because that's what I had at hand to identify myself with, you know, the lord of the manor. I do.
[02:57:20] Unknown:
May I? I'll take silence Dean's consent. Okay. So this is Nancy from Virginia again. I just finished, at the DMV. They would not let me sign there with t d c on my on the on the electronic thing. And, I had, put it on my signature on the hard copy that I brought with me. So I don't know what they did to that afterwards, but I asked for documentation of why they were refusing me to, not allowing me to sign. And they asked me what it meant, what it stood for, the TDC. I said threat, duress, coercion, but it's basically a reservation of our rights. So I'll just, because I've, I just let them know that I handle it administratively.
[02:58:17] Unknown:
So
[02:58:18] Unknown:
fancy. You operate in commerce. Oh, I know. It's not it's not under threat duress and coercion then. Now reservation of your rights is totally different.
[02:58:32] Unknown:
Oh, okay.
[02:58:34] Unknown:
Yeah. Well, thank you.
[02:58:37] Unknown:
That would distinguish between the two operations of law. One in commerce, that license is required.
[02:58:48] Unknown:
And now the question is the question is, will they let you sign with that,
[02:58:54] Unknown:
reservation of rights? I don't think they will, but you could try. No. I they didn't do it. They would I did it one year, and four years later when I renewed, they would not allow me to sign all rights reserved with without prejudice.
[02:59:10] Unknown:
What about UCC one dash three zero eight? Would they let you sign with that?
[02:59:15] Unknown:
I didn't try that. I I just they refused. They said your name only. And I there were, like, people breathing down my neck. They said They won't let you add anything to it.
[02:59:28] Unknown:
Nope. K. The manager, I asked him for documentation of the reason why they were not allowing me to sign that way. And they cited a code, and they basically said in the in the comment that, it was not under, UCC.
[02:59:47] Unknown:
Well, I will point out that it's involuntary servitude.
[02:59:52] Unknown:
You're both saying They refuse
[02:59:54] Unknown:
if they refuse No. This is voluntary. With all reservations of rights, I yield.
[03:00:02] Unknown:
Wow. That is know what It
[03:00:05] Unknown:
May I state what I find interesting is what you just said, Nancy, Please repeat it because it escapes me now, about, what their code said. Please repeat that.
[03:00:21] Unknown:
Well, the email that he showed me, the man assistant manager, because I asked for documentation, and I wrote down the code. But I read what it said on the email that, it this the DMV services or whatever, it doesn't basically, what we're doing there doesn't fall under the UCC. So it doesn't apply to do things like TDC or ARR. And thanks for the distinction, Sherry, between ARR and TDC. But as you've heard, they they're not allowing that either. And I I just made a comment to the people at the desk. So it's interesting that, this is a contract and that, the state is trying to dictate how I sign my name or how I enter into contract.
So, but I'm just gonna attack you know, send in my affidavit, and I'll I'll comment this. I have the assistant manager's name and just reassert reaffirm my rights, reservation of rights even though I'm entering it in
[03:01:31] Unknown:
entering into it because I drive commercially. So I yeah. Correct. That's the question. And that's the whole purpose
[03:01:38] Unknown:
of that license
[03:01:40] Unknown:
is for commerce. So you I understand. Asserting yourself as a national has no bearing whatsoever in that
[03:01:50] Unknown:
regard. Well, actually, I I I think that in entering into any contract, I can reserve my rights.
[03:01:58] Unknown:
Yes. Question. No. I'm dismissed.
[03:02:01] Unknown:
Question. The the the license is voluntary. Okay? But when they put the stipulation that you cannot sign it the way you want, it becomes involuntary. I yield.
[03:02:15] Unknown:
That's a good point. Thank you. Yes. Nancy. Yeah.
[03:02:20] Unknown:
This is Larry. So you can't sign a TDC because you're not being forced to get that license. Right. You you are volunteering to get that license so you can operate in commerce. So if you're stopped by an officer and you're not in commerce, you use your passport card to identify yourself. And when you are in commerce, you are obligated to avail the traffic laws. And so that's the reason why they're not allowing you to put TDC because they're not forcing you under threat, duress, and coercion to get that license. Did you hear what I read today on the show about the necessity defense? I don't think it's applicable. And so this kind of parallels that whole idea.
Just something to think about. Because I'm in commerce. I have a class A license. I've had it for twenty seven years. And, you know, I just use it, you know, for when I'm driving around in the private also. So I don't have any issue. I don't have a dog in the fight. I drive carefully when I'm in my private vehicle, which has state tags on it. And that that's that's what I've decided to do. You know? So
[03:03:45] Unknown:
I appreciate that. Said, Larry.
[03:03:48] Unknown:
Yeah. That's, that's exactly yeah. You can choose to be in commerce or you can choose to be without. However, once you're using their their, jurisdictions, you, you know, you're voluntary. And that and that's what Samuel has explained about Terry Lee. Terry Lee actually went and said they won't give me a driver's license with my Christian name. Therefore, turn it back to them. Okay. I tried to get a driver's license. He documented it all, and they wouldn't give me one in my Christian name. Therefore, now the sheriff will call him and say, hey. Did my I heard my deputy stop you today. Did they give you a hard time? No. No. They're very gentlemanly because he's got everybody on notice, you know, about how he did. They did. He wasn't he wasn't not trying to kind of obey their law or whatever, their commercial law, but they just wouldn't give him what he needed in his Christian name. So that's one way to do it. The other way to do it is to handle it commercially, send in your birth certificate or whatever. If they give you a fine, settle up with treasury, bada bing bada boom, do the UCC method, you know, a yield.
[03:04:51] Unknown:
It's in my recollection that Terry Lee, got in at the moment. They were changing over systems, and he did get his document in upper and lower case. Correct me if I'm wrong, Sheldon.
[03:05:10] Unknown:
No. He did. That's right. And on a more rudimentary attack on this, still gonna kinda stay on the subject. When you try to do something with driver's license, you're going to do the same thing with a passport card or passport. A lot of people go into the post office and they get on their high heels and the the the passport people, the postal workers, and say, oh, we can't do that. We can't attach this. Well, the same thing happens when you're doing your driver's license if you wanna put down threat, duress, coercion is when they say no, you go to another building.
When your post office refuses to put your declaration in there, which they, by law, cannot do, you go to another post office. And if you still wanna do what you wanna do and you can't do, you find another venue to do what you wanna do in. But on the back of what Larry said, yes, you can't use your national to do anything that's when you're employed or you're in their sandbox with commerce, you've sealed the deal. You're already under their jurisdiction. There's nothing you can do to get out of it except walk out of the truck and walk home. I'm done.
[03:06:27] Unknown:
Question, is it appropriate to to to when they refuse you signing this, document the way you want, is it appropriate to ask them, are you a lawyer and are you giving me legal advice?
[03:06:43] Unknown:
I think the next step in your administrative appeal would be ask for the supervisor, and then go to his supervisor. And then you're gonna have to look this up as far as the postal thing goes. I don't know about the driver's license per se other than it works. But you're going to have to look up under the postal code thing there because it's similar to what the notaries do. They cannot refuse to do their job. And their job is basically make a compilation of your all your documents that you want to submit and that's their job is to submit them, not sort through them, not to prioritize, to put them together and get it on their way because it's above their pay grade.
The Secretary of State decides what to do. Go ahead, sir.
[03:07:29] Unknown:
Yes, it's Samuel. My understanding of what Terry Lee went through is he went down to the DMV and he asked them if they could make some changes. They they said they could not, and then he volunteered his driver's license back to them and asked for a certificate stating that he volunteered it back to them.
[03:07:57] Unknown:
But I don't know I don't know if he got anything in print with that or not.
[03:08:01] Unknown:
Yes. He asked he said he asked for a certificate saying that he volunteered giving it back to them. He gave it back to them He be for cause. Right. And one of the causes was the name.
[03:08:15] Unknown:
And then he tried to comply with state law, and they refused for in that direction. So then he's free and clear.
[03:08:23] Unknown:
Yeah. Well, he can at least say the judge said that he didn't he doesn't not that he didn't wanna have a driver's license. He wanted to have it in his Christian name, etcetera, whatever he his complaint. He have one
[03:08:36] Unknown:
in his given name, Sheldon?
[03:08:40] Unknown:
No. He never had one in his given name with, all printed out and stuff. It was all in straw man case.
[03:08:48] Unknown:
Well, no. I thought he and you just spoke to that and said it was correct. I remember him saying that they were changing over the system, and so they put in their upper and lowercase. And if you designated such, they would comply. And that was my understanding. Said that, Gary. He's never said that. Hold on. I'm asking Sheldon Samuel. And, shoot. I'm almost sure he said that, but I could be mistaken. That's for sure.
[03:09:22] Unknown:
Well, if it would've worked out, he would've had a license. He would've showed me when we met and you know, because we we did all kinds of show and tell for that two hours. So the this whole thing was he knew by trying to get a license that they wouldn't give him one, which was what his goal was, and he succeeded in that. Go ahead.
[03:09:42] Unknown:
Okay. Yeah. What what he was doing was the only reason he would have to volunteer it back is because they couldn't make the changes, which he became prepared for because he knew they wouldn't. And he just asked them to certify that he volunteered it back to them for cause. That's that's all he did, my understanding.
[03:10:03] Unknown:
Of course. But now Sure. You sound much better. You're doing it right now.
[03:10:07] Unknown:
Now he's at least got something he can say to the judge. So no, judge. I I was happy to have a driver's license, but I couldn't take it in my non Christian name and whatever else he put on his paperwork.
[03:10:22] Unknown:
Question. So I guess, would it be appropriate to ask the head counsel of the DMV, are you giving me legal advice When we want to do what we want to do, I do
[03:10:44] Unknown:
it. Do anything administrative leaders to subtract from their pension?
[03:10:54] Unknown:
I have a question. Are the administrators, public servants? Could they be considered as such? They want you to think that. Well, no. I I don't think they want us to think that. I think they wanna tell us what to do, but the two public servants who are elected have a different understanding of the term, a yield.
[03:11:26] Unknown:
They they're usually the first ones to tell you that they can't give you legal advice and tell them, you know, well, as a national, I don't want legal advice. I want lawful advice.
[03:11:42] Unknown:
I agree, Samuel. And that's I think is what distinguishes, a public servant from an agent, a yield.
[03:11:57] Unknown:
Yeah. That's it's it's sort of, you know, do they do they have the ability to give you lawful advice? No, not really. They can only give legal advice which they're told not to do. So I don't know how many times I've had that told to me by these administrative agencies. Well, we can't give you legal advice, right?
[03:12:37] Unknown:
Hey, Samuel.
[03:12:41] Unknown:
Hello? Yeah.
[03:12:44] Unknown:
This is Paul from Kentucky. I, I have to concur or agree with what you're saying. I'll call sometimes to ask procedural methods. Like, hey. What is the procedure to file this paper? And so many times the government person will say, well, I can't give legal advice. I'm not asking for like, hey. What are the three steps I need to do to get this in your, you know, file? You know? And they're like, well, you know, we can't give legal advice. So I yield. I just thought I would share that.
[03:13:20] Unknown:
Yeah. They want you represented. They don't want you. They want somebody who goes with the program. So that's why they made up that thing that you're an idiot if you don't have legal representation as well. Right?
[03:13:36] Unknown:
Yes. And unfortunately, I can't find competent counsel to work with. So I have to rely on myself and a and a few people that I surround myself with.
[03:13:50] Unknown:
Randy Lee uses the counsel of Jesus Christ.
[03:13:53] Unknown:
Yes. There you go. There you go. The great counselor.
[03:13:57] Unknown:
Well, and and, you know, I'm I'm somewhat impressed and disappointed over the past several years of how I'm going up against what I would think are very competent counselors that are opposing me and how I'm making them step and fetch and run and grab for straws. And even judges are are doing some pretty unethical stuff. And, just to try to level the playing field because, myself and a and a few folks who are supporting me in through this situation. It's interesting. And that's why yesterday, and I unfortunately didn't have an opportunity to write it down, but, Bruce was on the call, and he had talked about getting some judges kicked off the bench. And that's what I need to do for sure because, there are people who backed me up when I say that some of the stuff these judges are doing is criminal, virtually
[03:15:08] Unknown:
criminal. So I yield. Thank you for your comment. I really appreciate that. And, I heard Stefan Fetchit, who is exact a term southern term. And isn't there somebody named Stefan Fetchit? And, also, he he was on the board. I put in the chat, many videos, Bad Wolf unincorporated, and also passport endorsements. So if you're interested, you're in there. I yield.
[03:15:46] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. That is a southern term, you know, like, you hear Jeff Foxworthy talk about which you did you and innuendo, like, did a bird fly innuendo? But, I am proud to say that, through calls and groups like this, I I have pleasantly surprised my opponents, and, you know, they're see, I think you all know this better than I do. Nobody really practices laws in these courts. And so when I hit them with law and I hit them with statutes and rules and they they they're not they're used to doing the whole use car used car deal. Like, what what do you want? What do you want? How do we negotiate this? And I'm coming back, and I'm quoting laws and chapters and verses and, you know, they're not ready for all that. So I yield.
[03:16:48] Unknown:
I have a Samuel. Hello? Oh, sorry. This is Nancy again. So, I'm going to be sending in my affidavit to the DMV, and I was going to follow-up, today with that and a cover letter. And so is does anyone have pros and cons about addressing the signature issue in that letter and stating that, you know, my intent is to reserve all my rights, or all my rights are reserved because it's within it's a contract with and within seventy two hours. I'm not trying to cancel the contract. I'm just trying to, affirm all my rights are reserved.
[03:17:41] Unknown:
Well, you have all the constitution at your beck and calls, so you could say, does this conform with constitutional law? And they're gonna lie to you, right, because you have the right to travel. So you might put something like, I have a right to travel. I don't wanna be harassed on the side of the road. You know what I'm saying. I yield.
[03:18:07] Unknown:
Nancy, may I offer this? That you should distinguish in your cover letter that you do operate in commerce and have no problem, adhering to their codes, rules, and statutes, but that you also are a private citizen, a private people, better said, and distinguish between the two in your cover letter. That's what I think. Because you do operate in commerce.
[03:18:42] Unknown:
Right. Yeah. That's what I was thinking. And that was that's what I was thinking, Sherry. So thank you.
[03:18:50] Unknown:
Great point, Sherry. And I forgot that you I did operate in commercial.
[03:18:56] Unknown:
Samuel, you might have missed my question before. I was wondering if you, when we were discussing U. S. Postal Service money orders, if you knew the statute that said that that is lawful money or gold and silver and that is our remedy versus sending everything back to treasury for reducing the public debt like if we if they left that remedy that definitely says we can go and do everything with postal money orders that we were using lawful money in that case.
[03:19:43] Unknown:
We did have a, a postal, I forget the
[03:19:48] Unknown:
head the gosh. What are they called? Someone who runs the post office. Postmaster. Postmaster. Thank you. And she
[03:19:57] Unknown:
could not answer that question. And she said there might be an answer in that big thick book that I haven't found it yet. So that's all I have. I yield.
[03:20:12] Unknown:
Yes. I didn't know if it was Patriot Mythology or if Stanford had some legal side on it.
[03:20:18] Unknown:
Yeah. Do you know where that came from? No. You know where that you know where that came from? That came from, Brosse and his USA, The Republic. He says, once you're no longer the fourteenth amendment citizen to help you stay out of commerce, he suggested two things. And I don't know why. I mean, it makes sense, I guess, if you could find out that two things, a non interest bank account, non interest bearing bank account and if you're doing any transactions over state lines, if you're paying for anything over state lines to use a U. S. Postal money order And I'm assuming that, I don't know why that keeps you out of commerce in his opinion because he doesn't say from what I can tell.
[03:21:07] Unknown:
Okay. Thank you. Because I had heard the same thing, pay with postal money order, just meaning that somebody can use that as to pay down their thing or whatever. But I hadn't heard where is any different than using Federal Reserve notes or hadn't read like a site.
[03:21:24] Unknown:
Yeah. Well, when he brought it up, that made me think, well, maybe that's backed by the Treasury and still is like gold and silver, right? But I sort of doubt that, but the reason I was so happy about it is because if it's true, I made all my property payments when I bought my land with the postal money orders.
[03:21:51] Unknown:
Samuel, that question came up in the past. And, when was the book written by Brost?
[03:22:00] Unknown:
Oh, boy. I'm gonna guess the eighties.
[03:22:03] Unknown:
Yeah. So I think the question up question came up, has that changed? And we asked the postmaster to answer the question in her big thick book, and she never got back to us. I yield.
[03:22:17] Unknown:
Yeah. I mean, from my understanding, the postal code is massive. But somebody said, I think it might have been Burrows or Stamper, I don't know which one. Said if you go to the post office and you ask an employee what the law is, they're not under any compunction to tell you the truth. The postmaster general must tell you the truth. Or the postmaster, not general. I'm sorry. That's a good point.
[03:22:56] Unknown:
That might be a foyer then.
[03:23:02] Unknown:
Well, you'd have to have access. I I'm I'm sure, you know, in the old days, they'd be pulling a book off the shelf. They probably now got a computer program, right, to look. I've never been able able to find if it's backed by the the old treasury or not. I mean, it started out as being our first bank outside of Hamilton's Bank, which was the First Bank of the United States, which why they let him get away with that, I'm not sure.
[03:24:10] Unknown:
There is a postal link for doing a foyer for the postal office. I'm putting it in the chat right now.
[03:24:29] Unknown:
If I may, looking for some advice. My grandson, 12 years old, got bit by a two year old,
[03:24:42] Unknown:
what the hell is it,
[03:24:44] Unknown:
a dog, big dog at his friend's house. Got a pretty good bite on his calf. Dog chased him down, broke his chain, pit bull. Pretty much, you know, he didn't maul him. Thank God. And they saw it happen through their door, and they he starts screaming, and they went out and pretty much saved him. Called his mom, told him, get him to the hospital. They she took her to one hospital. They kept making him make her wait. Couple hours, she went to a different one, and they bandaged it up while he was waiting, and then they cleaned it up. And she leaned it out and said, you know, the sheriff had been there and said the shots weren't up to date, and they wanted to shoot him up with for rabies. I said, no freaking way. You get that damn dog tested or in quarantine or whatever you're gonna do. Don't you make that child get stuck getting rabies shots when we know where the dog is?
So they let them there's Michigan law. They can self quarantine the dog. There's four dogs in the house, four big dogs. And, you know, he came home from school. We have to walk by that house, and another dog started chasing him. Didn't, you know, do anything but freaked him out. And I talked to a friend of mine who's an ex cop around here, and he said sue the sue the county, the city, and the state for improper police protection. Well, you can't do that without an attorney. Anyway, you guys got any thoughts on it?
[03:26:47] Unknown:
Well, what would Doc Wallach do for the bite, first of all? And as far as the other one, I can't answer that. Sorry. Well, we're treating them, you know,
[03:26:56] Unknown:
for the bite. I think it's gonna be okay. It's pretty deep, you know, puncture and lacerations. He dug into the calf muscle and punctured it, and then, you know, it tore. They cleaned it up pretty good. And then, you know, my wife and daughter have been working on it.
[03:27:18] Unknown:
And,
[03:27:21] Unknown:
I'm pretty sure he doesn't have rabies. I don't think we have to worry about that. But, you know, he was traumatized, and he was that that was pretty vicious. Two year old pit bull, you know, attacking an eighty pound twelve year old boy. Where'd it happen? In in Michigan, outside on the street. You know, he was waiting for his younger friend who lives there to get off the bus, you know, come home from school on the bus. And the dog broke the chain and chased him down. And he saw the dog coming, and he said, oh, shit. Do you know when he started running and that dog, you know, grabbed him and and the you're right. The the the owner of the dog was watching it happen.
And my grandson said nobody came until he started screaming. And, you know, they came out and got the dog off of him and called mom and said to get him to the hospital.
[03:28:25] Unknown:
So You have a good case. Question is, is your time and effort gonna be worth the settlement?
[03:28:32] Unknown:
Right. I know look. This is in the ghetto. I don't believe, you know, I don't believe the guy I think the guy's a renter. And I'm sure he doesn't have insurance. My daughter has insurance. She could probably go after her own homeowners. But my my friend, you know, he he was a cop here in Pontiac, Michigan for years, and he's pretty sharp. He said his dad got hit by a car here in Michigan in 1969. And he was at after it happened, he was all busted up and he was at the horse race track and a guy walked up and said, what happened? You know? And he told him, he goes, here's my card. He was an attorney. He said, call me. He said that attorney sued the city, the county, and the state for improper police protection.
And in six weeks, his dad got a check for $360,000 in 1969. They did obviously, they settled out of court. Things were a lot different back then, but, I'm not sure which way to go on this one. Does
[03:29:47] Unknown:
the dog have a license?
[03:29:49] Unknown:
No. It it it's I don't know if he has a license, but the the the shots were not up to date. And the cops the sheriff went there. They didn't take the dog, or shoot the dog. They they're letting him self quarantine the dog.
[03:30:06] Unknown:
He said it's a ghetto. Was that a sharecropper owned by a sharecropper?
[03:30:13] Unknown:
I mean, the question needs to be answered about the license, I think, then you can sue the city.
[03:30:20] Unknown:
Okay.
[03:30:21] Unknown:
Dave?
[03:30:22] Unknown:
Yeah.
[03:30:24] Unknown:
Hey. It's Larry in Jacksonville. I just looked it up, and it says that, you can file in small claims court for up to $7,000, and there's no attorneys. You both parties represent themselves. So I think that's what you should do is just draw up a simple lawsuit in small claims. Go before a judge, and you'll probably win your case and get damages up to $7,000 to take care of, you know, get the hospital bill and all that kind of stuff. And, maybe teach your son to carry some pepper spray, you know, if he's walking around in in these rural areas and there's animals that are prone to getting out, at least he could have something to spray at the dog to deter it.
[03:31:16] Unknown:
K. Take one Thank you for that, Larry. And may I say, I was in on my all of a sudden, y'all couldn't hear me, but, this would be a moment to teach your grandson that he has authority over that dog. When you run from a dog, just like a bear or any other wild animal, they are gonna chase you. Turn around and confront them.
[03:31:42] Unknown:
I told them.
[03:31:44] Unknown:
Yeah.
[03:31:45] Unknown:
K. I told them, but, you know, when a 12 year old boy is being chased by a, you know, a giant dog, it's pretty hard to stand your ground.
[03:31:53] Unknown:
No. I get that. And let me tell you my dog story. I was probably six. So my older sisters were eight and 10. And we were walking around the block, and we decided to walk into
[03:32:14] Unknown:
I think they muted her because she didn't Oh, they're not doing it. Show. She she she has a problem not learning that her phone is way too loud. Dave, I think it's, worth your time and effort to go to the, small claims, I would presume. Yeah. I think that's the avenue.
[03:32:37] Unknown:
What about filing a claim against their homeowners insurance? And if they don't have any, you know, renters or is the owner of the home I'm pretty sure it's a rental.
[03:32:50] Unknown:
Yeah. Time and effort, though. I think, yeah, you might be able to get more and, but your time and effort. And take lots of pictures, Dave. May I?
[03:33:00] Unknown:
Take pictures of his wound.
[03:33:03] Unknown:
May I? You, you could probably file a claim against the actual owner of the house even though this was done by the renter, ideal.
[03:33:14] Unknown:
Thank you. I agree.
[03:33:17] Unknown:
And Samuel You go after the deep pockets after the chain company, chain manufacturer. Of course, they probably weren't using the right size chain for that dog.
[03:33:27] Unknown:
Well, they've had the dog probably for, you know, as long as my grandson's been there. That's a two year old, pit bull. And, you know, their bite strength, I think I've heard it's been it's the strongest pencil strength of any dog jaws. It's a pretty ugly wound. You know, they are taking pictures. They're just getting better, and I think he does deserves more than that small claim amount. You know? Now he's he's gonna be afraid of dogs for a while. You know what I mean? That's a that's pretty traumatic. Hate him live in there, but yep.
[03:34:17] Unknown:
Hey, Dave. Has the owner of the dog offered to pay for everything? The medicine, the treatment, the therapy, the everything. Has he offered to pay for everything?
[03:34:27] Unknown:
Nope. No. We won't hear anything like that. And and, actually, the the you know? So it's a it's a family, you know, a white mother and a a black, male. He's not, they're not married. And she has ten ten boys from another, somebody else. And, you know, they live with this dude. And, the the youngest boy there is a couple years younger than my grandson, and you don't have a whole lot of friends in that area, and that's, like, his best friend. And, you know, now their dog tried to eat him. And, you know, they they called you know, they got the dog off, and they called the mom, but, no. They never called to see how he was or and then we brought that boy here, you know, the next weekend for the weekend.
And, anyway, he spent the weekend with us and and our grandson.
[03:35:39] Unknown:
I have a quest I have a question for anybody who knows, about pit bulls. Would it have been better for in the future that your son not run away from a charging pit bull, but to stand tall and yell? I don't know the answer, but that would be a good question for his future. I yield.
[03:36:03] Unknown:
Isn't that what I said? And it goes for any dog or any bear or any wild animal.
[03:36:12] Unknown:
Yep. You're you got cut off and muted because your phone is too loud. You haven't learned your lesson.
[03:36:19] Unknown:
Okay. Well, I was on my laptop, and y'all couldn't hear me. So I called in until I could reboot my laptop. But what I was saying is that when I got bitten by a dog, my two older sisters ran away from me. And it's just like that old saying goes, alls I have to do is outrun you. Right. And they'd let me get bit by that dog.
[03:36:45] Unknown:
Right. Are you? Well, I told him and, unfortunately, bad on me. I I've never told him to stand his ground and not run away from a a running you know, a charging dog. He loves dogs. He loves everybody,
[03:37:06] Unknown:
and, yeah, he's he's being abused. Sorry, Dave. Thank
[03:37:12] Unknown:
you. You know, I have a story about that too because I love animals, and I've never had a dog that was aggressive to me till I wouldn't stay with a friend of mine out in Colorado. And she had this little terrier, and the darn thing bit me. I was so beside myself. Oh my gosh. You don't like me?
[03:37:35] Unknown:
Yeah.
[03:37:36] Unknown:
So sometimes I look at you all like terriers in this club. Are you?
[03:37:44] Unknown:
Hey, Dave.
[03:37:45] Unknown:
Yep.
[03:37:47] Unknown:
You know what? You might try is see if there's a really good dog trainer in your area and happens tell him tell him what happened with the child, and and maybe he can help him re empower himself Okay. About dealing with dogs. You know? Yeah.
[03:38:02] Unknown:
It's such a good idea. Thanks, Samuel. Sorry. Yes. Thank you, Samuel. Samuel, I don't know if you're aware of this, but yesterday, it came on the web that a a young lady, with children confronted a chemtrail pilot that was seeding the clouds for the water district in Sonora. And she showed up at the at the base at night, and she got in. And she confronted the pilots and asked them questions about them spraying barium aluminum. And it is quite interesting. There is, her name. She did get interviewed by the SGT report. Her name is Mellow Cat, and I just wanted to point that out before I stepped away.
[03:39:01] Unknown:
I don't know if you're Yeah. I think I think she uses an app to be able to track the air traffic. Is that the same one? Yes. Yes. And she's very she's very proficient in that, and she's gonna start producing,
[03:39:14] Unknown:
videos on showing people how to track aircraft very quickly and easily. And it's a very good interview on SGT and the video of her confronting the pilots. They know what they're doing. There's also a great video just said. We're just doing our job.
[03:39:34] Unknown:
There's also a great video of her on Stu Peters as well, but you're right. It's Mellow Cat. It's on Substack. And I don't believe she's even charging for her Substack, but maybe she is now. But, yeah, it's a great interview, you guys. I yield.
[03:39:50] Unknown:
Sched, I have to pause them before you go, if you don't mind. You said that she got on to the base, but she confronted pilots that were spraying for the water district. Yeah. So are they I'm just core curious. Is the water district and the military base in Cahoots.
[03:40:16] Unknown:
No. This is a private Cherry Cherry, she went to the airport. She didn't went to a a base. She went to the, jet airport.
[03:40:24] Unknown:
A private airport that Private airport. Yeah. That is closed. You know, there were no lights at the airport because it was basically in the middle of the night when they do their spraying. So the plane came in. They got off the plane. She was let in by one of the the ground attendants because she was just a nice young girl who said I'm here to ask questions, and they'd let her in. And the answers that the pilots gave, you could just hear that they they knew what they were doing, but they didn't wanna take responsibility. And they had children too, and they have no
[03:41:09] Unknown:
That he actually lied. He actually lied. He said he helped out his friend.
[03:41:17] Unknown:
And they're being paid. She don't say she was there to ask questions. She was there to see the pilot, and she say the name of the pilot, and he came out.
[03:41:29] Unknown:
Hey, Dave? She she actually posted the name of the company that's doing this, and it's, of course, none other than a three letter agency called the NGO. That's and I had never even heard of that company before at all. High yield.
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Dave here.
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Yes. Hey, this is Larry again. What are your reservations? It sounded like you didn't want to take this to a court. And there's nothing wrong with going to court when you're the plaintiff.
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No. No. No. I don't have reservation about that, but I don't want him I think he deserves a lot more than $7,000, and I don't think it's a small claim. I think it's a big claim. Okay. Well, then you And I don't wanna You really have no choice Pardon
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me? You really have no choice but to hire an attorney because they would investigate the insurance that they would find out if the homeowner has insurance. And, of course, they'll do everything they can to try to get, you know, settlement money out of somebody to to, you know, to cover the damages and everything else and cover their own expenses, you know. And another thing is, you know, pit bulls have gotten a bad name. I made a delivery one time to a customer's house. It was a residential house and, you know, very nice gentleman, older gentleman and his wife. And all of a sudden, when I opened up the door or when they opened up the door in the garage, there was this huge pit bull that was right there and I was startled and they said, oh, don't worry about him. He's he's very loving. And that dog was the most loving dog I have ever met in my life.
Very big dog. It was licking me. It was, it was trying to play with me. It was trying to, like, he had a little ball and he wanted to play fetch. And so I was talking to them about this and they said that they have owned a number of pit bulls over the years, like four or five of them and they said that all of their dogs have always been taken care of very well. And I said, well, what's why did they give such a bad rap, these pit bulls and these other dogs like them in that category? And he told me because I mean, he knows how to raise dogs and he said it's all in how you raise them. You got to love them. You don't, you know, these people that have this dog that's on a chain and, you know, they are just not taking care of it well. They are not loving it. They are not teaching it.
You know, discipline and all these things. And so that's a big deal.
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Well, I gotta say my grandson's been going over to that house. Hold on, Sherry. Owner. I yield. My grandson's been going over there for a couple years. He don't go in the house. He's been in it, but, you know, the the man of the house doesn't really care for him. You know, he's a black man. My grandson's white. And And he's pretty mean. He's a weirdo. And anytime my grandson goes over and knocks on the door, all four dogs come running to the door and they go crazy barking at them, trying to get through the door to kill them. And and he says, he yells at him, quit teasing the dogs, you know, and he's he did not teasing the freaking dogs, you know. And, anyway, he's out in front of the house playing him. That dog knows him.
Okay. But the dog still attacked him, and that dog needs to be put down.
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Dave, what happens is that in most cases, the personality of the dog is the personality of the owner. Yeah. And and they wanna please the owner. They wanna do what the owner likes them to do. Yep. And that's sort of sad.
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Yep. I don't think Well, I have a question, Dave.
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Was the man, the so called man of the house there that day? Yeah. I would hazard a guess no.
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Yes. He said he was watching the dog chase down my he saw the dog break his chain and chase after my grandson and bite him. And then he went outside and he grabbed the dog and said, you know, called my daughter and said, he's bleeding. You need to get him to the hospital. That's right. So he's going on. Hey,
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Dave. You need to write an affidavit in this regard just to have it for the record.
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Just one minute. Did the did the boy see the dog break the chain or is that b s too? No. He saw the dog break the chain. Okay. Well, at least he's telling the truth there. Yep. Okay. And what I will say to you, it is not hearsay if that man said it to you
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directly.
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No. He didn't say it to me. He said it it's in the police report. He said it to the Oh, even better.
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Yeah.
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Even better.
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Ideal.
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Yep. He he told it pretty much like it was.
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How many calls the police?
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Who called the police? Just curious.
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Well, I told my daughter when she called me from the hospital to call the cops. I said call police right away. So I don't know if if the you know, if she had reported him when she got to the hospital already, if they called. But, you know, obviously, dog bite, you know, rabies and all that.
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Well, it's Anyway, the the police report who initiated the call. That should be the first statement.
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I didn't see that in the report. And there is they redact my daughter had to go buy the police report, and they redacted about 90% of it. And most of the shit they redacted was in the bottom of the report. That's so stupid.
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Well, they have to be careful, Dave, when it comes to a minor.
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So Yeah. They didn't redact my son my grandson. They redacted the owner of the dog.
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But then they put it in a different
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part of the, you know, on the bottom part of the report, it wasn't redacted.
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No. That is no lie. I do. Have your kid write their
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own affidavit of the truth of what happened.
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Yeah. But they weren't there, so they really can't. Except for what their grandson said to them, they can write an affidavit regarding that.
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The police should have a recording of of what happened.
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And that's where the lawyers come in. But I'm you gotta be a firsthand witness. And for what their grandson told them is evidentiary, and you can put into an affidavit on his behalf for sure. And that's what I would do. I yield.
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What I would be concerned about for the parents' sake is that they don't get accused of neg child negligence for not executing the so called rabies treatment that the medical world may want. You should really find out what's legitimate there and what isn't. You know? Samuel, he went to the hospital.
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So Yeah. But they wanted to start rabies at shots. Right? Well, he didn't have the dog with him at the hospital, so they wanted to initiate a rabies shot. And I and my daughter texted me, and I said, hell no. They know where that dog is. I said, that dog should needs to be checked how whatever they do. You're not gonna start shooting my grandson up with a rabies shot when you got the damn dog.
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Yeah. That that's my point, David, is you is you wanna know what what the rabies shot is really all about because, you know, the hospital's gonna stick you with anything they can charge you for. Right? Right. Absolutely. The re the reality of it is, though, for your for your children's sake, you know, the the parents of the boy, that they don't get accused of child neglect of somehow because there's a protocol that they wanna stick to on the rabies deal, dog or no dog. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. I hear you. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. It should be the The hospital
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didn't even all they did was clean it out with saline solution after she said no on a rabies shot. They didn't even give her antiseptic for it.
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And no stitches?
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No. Okay. Well, the best thing for a wound, a skin wound, let it bleed. Let it bleed all that stuff out. Hey. But what I'm saying is the police should have documented whether that dog had his rabies
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vaccination or not. They did. It's in the it's in the report. It said the the owner doesn't think the dog shots were up to date. So they offered him, an option to quarantine the dog at home with the other dogs and the family, but it can't see any other, you know, non family members or or animals for ten days. May I?
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Yes. I'm just, I'm not playing the devil's advocate here, but I have researched all of these vaccinations both for humans and for dogs. That vaccination for rabies only needs to be done once in a lifetime. So I I I understand that, you know, the I don't vaccinate my dog. I refuse to vaccinate him because I've seen what's in these vaccinations, and it's it's not good. It's the same thing they're giving human beings. So, you know, you still could obviously use that against them because the the the obviously the codes and statutes and regulations are that you have to vaccinate your dog.
But, I'm just sitting saying I I wouldn't worry, regarding
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inspection. I'm not. I I I'm not, Julie. I agree with you. We've looked into the same thing. When we moved out here to the country in 2010, We stopped vacuuming our animals as well because we found out the truth.
[03:52:17] Unknown:
And, yeah, it's it's all bullshit. And I would never let him stick a needle in that boy no matter what. You know what? I don't even feed my dog dog food. I cook human food for him every single day, and I had cancer and a bone marrow transplant and suffered from focal point seizures, for many years. And he my little palm, he's the cutest thing you guys could ever see. You guys you guys just wanna steal them from me. He can detect a seizure in me, but I don't get them anymore. But I mean, I think what somebody was saying earlier, the fact that this dog is a duplicate or a parallel personality of the owners, what's happening here. Because I see that all the time when I'm in Washington, DC because we're at most homes in Washington, DC are row homes. They're not even detached homes if you're in a metropolitan area. And you will see these pit bulls that are out in front, and you will see the owners come out. You'll hear them on the phone screen and yelling at somebody, and you're like, oh, my god. Like, dog like owner.
And, so I you know, my heart goes out to you. But, I definitely would not only pursue the renter, but more than likely if I were you, I would pursue the homeowner because that homeowner, if you get a judgment against that homeowner, you can put a lien on the house in the land records, and you can force the sale of the home.
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Yeah.
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Okay. Might I add, those little ankle ankle biters can be just as vicious as a larger dog. Oh, yeah.
[03:53:53] Unknown:
Absolutely. Absolutely. Julie, do you remember the movie Gremlins? Yep. Yep. We had a six pound Pomeranian Chihuahua named Buffy, the vampire flayer. She looked and sounded exactly like Gizmo. Oh my god. That's gotta be adorable. I wanted to name her Gizmo, but my daughter said no. She she named her Buffy the Vampire Slayer.
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That is funny. Yeah. My my little boy is, beyond smart because, like I said, he was trained to follow me everywhere. So I don't have any peace and quiet at my house when I shower or have to use the throne. Right. I mean, he's right there next to me. But, he's he's adorable. But, you know, I have to be careful about him. He's super duper, friendly and everything, but if a small if a small little kid comes up into his face Oh, yeah. Sometimes yeah. And I'm like, I'll tell the homeowner, please do not bring your dog up against in my dog's face. I do not want anything to happen here. Well, my understand.
[03:54:56] Unknown:
About two weeks before this incident, my grandson was at his his other friend's house, and they got some little yappy dog. And he was sitting on the floor, and that dog, it it bit him in the face.
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Yeah. I don't have a It barely
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caught the skin. There was a little mark, but it, you know, it it he was gone by the next day, but still it hurt like hell. You know, it pinched his skin. And, and, you know, it's just unbelievable what's happening to this boy.
[03:55:30] Unknown:
Yeah. I my dog is I've had many They were mean he was gone by the next day. They got rid of the animal? No. The mark on his face. Oh, I gotcha. Okay. Yeah. You couldn't even see anything.
[03:55:43] Unknown:
So let me tell you something. You can go on Amazon, and there are these bandages, and they're called Scar Away, s c a r a w a y. And you can buy those. They're relatively cheap. And what you do is you use scissors and you cut them up into the, shape of the scar or the shape of where your son was bitten. And this is used on burn victims to heal scars from being burned. And I can tell you they work like there's no tomorrow. It helps grow back the skin and it helps heal in any sort of dents that your son might have it on his leg. And they're they they don't hurt. You can wear them in the shower. You can wash them and then put them back on. It's got like a gel on the bottom of them. And the outside is the color of the skin. So if he's out wearing it, you really it's very hard to see unless you're really focused on it. And get some boxes of that and build the, build the renter and build a homeowner for those as well because that will that will heal up a lot of people. Like I said, I'm I'm a testimony for that. I use that all the time. I've actually fallen before and had some really bad scars and sometimes you have to wear them for a year, but they don't hurt. You can barely see them and they really do work.
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That's
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Do you mind just saying what is the ingredients
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of that product if you know? Thank you. That I don't know and, I I have no clue what in fact, it could very well not be not be good. Could I don't know if they've changed the ingredients. I haven't worn one for a long time. That I don't know, Sherry, and that's a very good question because most things and most products have, chemicals in them and poisons in them. All I will tell pray, Liz. All I will tell you is that I had a, shin. I fell on my shin. The skin scar was so disgusting. It was purple, and it was all indented in. And I don't know. I used that for a year and everything, you can't even tell where it was anymore. I guess I and that if you guys would have seen that, you would have used the chemical ScarAway to get rid of that.
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Hey, Dan. Tom, where are you doing? Okay, guys. Feeling it. No. I'm going to have to cut you off here. Dark. I'm gonna have to cut you all off here. It's long past time to take the stream down. So, thank you for joining us at Radio Ranch with Roger Sales on EurofolkRadio.com and radio.globalvoiceradio.net. Catch us here Monday through Saturday, 11AM to 1PM eastern. And, hey. Don't miss the show tomorrow followed by Paul English live on Eurofolkradio.com and radio.globalvoiceradio.net. Thank you. Bye now. Blasting the voice of freedom worldwide, you're listening to the Global Voice Radio Network.
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Oh, yes. So would we. We'll go after another installment of it here this morning on the Wednesday edition of March. Roger Sales, your host, Radio Ranch, the, title of our program. It's a two two mornings in a row, very nice sunny days in Ecuador, so maybe we're towards the end of this winter. Rainy season, cross fingers. Anyway, we're, joined and assisted by a number of other folks that lend their shoulder to the wheel to help us extend our message and reach some of you folks out there. And, Paul is overseas all that, and we, allow him and tell ask him to give them proper credit and recognition for all the help that they, and assistance they give us, if you would, Paul.
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I'd be happy to do that one second with my my mic on. I yawn and wake up. And Yes. We're that person should know not to call me at at 11:00. They should know better. Yes. We are on radiosoapbars.com, thanks to our buddy Paul across the drink. And we're also on eurofolkradio.com. Thanks to pastor Eli James, and we're on Global Voice Radio Network. Mhmm. That's globalvoiceradio.net. Our website is thematrixdocs.com. That's d0cs.com. And you can find links to free conference call to join us live on the show, or you can find the links for Eurofolk Radio or Global Voice Radio Network. You'll also find the archive links.
Those are the link, Radio Ranch archives and a question mark, click here. And, just click on the word here. Now we are normally joined by, WDRN productions and the NET family of broadcast services. However, there are heat waves all over, including, in Fort Collins, Colorado because the WDRN studios had a fire two days ago. Alan, our buddy, had third degree burns on both of his hands, and he's dealing with that stuff. The the computer backbone is back up. However, we don't expect WDRN to be joining us until Friday. So in the meanwhile, prayers and happy thoughts for Alan at WDOU.
And, one way or another, we will make it through. We're gonna we're gonna persevere.
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Well, do we know anything about this fire? I mean, it wasn't like the SWAT things are going on lately, was it? No. No. It's just it was just, like, a storage closet
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that, something happened, either electrical or whatever, and, basically, flames flames floor to ceiling and the, the fire extinguisher just a little yeah. Fire extinguisher just a little too far out of reach.
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So Sorry. Gosh, Alan. Sure. Sorry for that. I hope your hands are alright. Burns or soap so painful. One of the most painful injuries you get is a burn. I just had some soap done for you, man. I just can't get any up there in time.
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I'm thinking that, I'm gonna do, colloidal silver aloe gel.
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And Well, it might help. Yep. Well, the yeah. I don't know how much of a, see, the beauty of silver lawn is it's in that cloth, and it's 99% pure silver. And, which oh, boy. I imagine that stuff's expensive these days. And, it recompletes that circuit over any kind of injury, burn included. It's spectacular on burns. Just for the audience, and this is one of those things that you never know what's gonna happen. You know? Be prepared like the boy scouts. I think there's a website called noemforlow noemf.com.
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Yeah. I think it is no e m f.
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That, sells, cloths plated. They have a silver cloth that they call medical grade. The, the patents that were stolen, the doctor Flick applied for for Silverlawn. It was stolen by these, well, these the the usual suspects, the thief and ass revelation two and three niners just can't keep their hands off your stuff. You know? It's fine. It's fine. It's fine. I'm better than you. All that crap they put out. They, don't allow any sales in The US for medical purposes of the silver cloth, and that was, part of the patents they stole. But this guy doesn't make medical claims. I believe he says medical grade.
And I think off memory, it's noemf.com again. I think he's got copper and others over there, but it wouldn't hurt. You don't need a whole lot. But, boy, if you can, afford to have some silver cloth around the house, you'll be amazed at how often you'll use it and at the results you get from using. And it's I mean, I saw miracles of that stuff for four years, man, really, in my own family and, with customers reporting back stuff. I should tell you about, Tracy. What was her last name? It's like a Jewish name. All Altman or something, but they weren't Jewish. They were German.
And, they had immigrated after World War two to the Milwaukee area. And, evidently, there's a large contingent of Germans up there. Her husband had thought Trudy, Trudy Elder. That was it. And she had, her husband had fought on the Eastern Front against the Russians and gotten frostbite in his lower leg. And for years, she had had, it was discolored, and it had, like, pain and itching. He'd been to, like, six or seven different specialists, and nobody could do anything about it. And we, we had a front cover page of, oh, a really Patriot magazine. I can't remember what it was. It's a very slick Time magazine type thing. I'll think of it in a minute.
And, anyway, we had the front cover of that in an article about it, and Trudy saw the article and contacted me and bought a roll of the cloth, 66 inches, maybe three or four inches across. I think we were selling them for all the $30. Ridiculous. Anyway, she got the cloth and wrapped her husband's foot and everything that he had experienced since World War two, Paul, was gone in seven days. All the discoloration, all the itching, all the discomfort, everything. Gone. Boom. Done. After all those decades. So this stuff's very special. It's my, my, comment to the audience is something that everybody should don't need a lot of it. But just for burns and nicks and cuts on the kitchen or, you know, some stuff like that. I mean, it's just incredible what this stuff will do for you. So, anyway, brought that up from Alan's misfortune there of his burn. Alan, we hope you get right through it, and, sorry that happened to you. We never know, do we, Paul?
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No. Never did.
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Information.
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Information is coming in from the left wing. Come in, please.
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Yeah. This is Thomas in South Florida.
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Hey, Thomas.
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Yeah. No. I heard about the burn, and, we have a thing we've done with burns for years, and it really works. You take you go to this you get the stuff that's called the lily of the desert. It's aloe. It's aloe gel. Mhmm. Yeah. Not the water, the gel. And you once you open it up, you have to put in your refrigerator. Okay. It's actually fresh squeezed aloe and it will spoil if you don't once you once you break the seal on it. And what we've done in the past with severe burns is, oh, we always use paper towels, but you could use gauze and what you do is you soak them and in the aloe gel and you put it all over the burned area, like in this case the hands, you would basically put it, you take paper towels, you would gauze, you absolutely soak it and put your hands in there and if it's severe, I put like a Ziploc bag or something over the hands.
Yeah. Good. Okay. You let that the whole secret is it's got to dwell on that. I mean sleep with it overnight. I mean keep them on. And we've had incredible burns that it's just almost magic. I mean if you've got charring, I don't know about that, but we've had very severe like, you get instantly burned with, like, steam or someone puts their hand on top. One of my kids put their hand on top of a of a, you know, like a Weber grill. I don't know if you ever Yeah. You know, we're bartering on and he's, like, three or four years old and he puts his hands on and he burns the hell out of his hands. Poor kid. Yes. Of course. Well, he screams so loud. We had him in in we saw how we treated him and, of course, the next day we couldn't even tell that it happened. He screamed so loud somebody heard we had the cops knock on our door. They really really kids screaming over here and this is a while ago. They we said no no my son just stuck his hand on a barbecue and he burned the hell out of a palm of his hand. He's only like four years old and, see that's how bad it was. The next day, you couldn't even tell that he burned his hand.
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Yeah. It was that Yeah. It was amazing. Uh-huh. Because it got put on very very quickly though. Very quickly. Uh-huh. Oh, you gotta get it on immediately. The the the quicker you can get it on an area, the better it's gonna do. I know you can substitute with Silverlon. You said his hand. I don't know if it was his entire hand or not. No. Just a little more difficult. Put his hand on top of the grill and went No. No. Not your son. Al Allen Allen. Yeah. I can I can see your son doing that? But, you can also use colloidal silver and aluminum foil. We'll almost duplicate the SilverLawn product because the magic in this is, god's own magic is evidently the epidermis, the skin out on the outside level is the largest organ in the body for one thing. And secondly, it is a conduit for our electrical being.
And we the the conduit runs in that epidermis level. So what happens is if you, like, had a laceration, a cut, and it would break through that epidermis and on down into the dermis and the other, lower layers, Well, when the electrical field is not going over that laceration because of the cut, well, the pain, the, nerve endings are there at deeper down. And when there's no electrical field over them, they they induce the pain feeling. So when you put something that will conduct back over that laceration, it completes the circuit again, and the pain goes away.
And I mean from third degree burns in minutes. You know? So it's all all documented by Flick. It's a wonderful product. Of course, the, the the small hats just couldn't wait to get in there and and steal it. And then another bunch stole it from that bunch. So, anyway, that's what's going on. Sorry, Alan. You're having to deal with that. I hope it's treatable and manageable because it can be very painful. So, anyway, thanks, Thomas. So, I was just listening to Owen this morning. Evidently not Owen. Harrison. Evidently, Owen got swatted overnight. There's this wrath of of, swatting's going on.
Families, family members, people, all kinds of stuff. They've done it to chase guys or twice. And, it's, pretty unfortunate that that I hope they catch this. Evidently, everybody that's been swatted over there around and around Infowars and peripherally is somebody that stood up against the Ukraine. So it may be more of these god, these people are just the wackoiest nut jobs. They they're just pure committed communist. They're they they have no morals. They have no ethics. They're totally Machiavellian. The men means just justify the ends justify the means, and they're just gonna pull this crap. And they're like a little baby with a tantrum that just has a tantrum until he gets that pacifier in his mouth or mom's boob or something.
But, anyway, it's a a horrible situation. It's increasing. I got up and slipped on the livestream, and there's Alex at eight something in the morning, talking about the repercussions of this stuff with Owen last night. Very sad now then right as we were going on the air. And I didn't hear I never heard about this. There were riots, I guess, before Trump's first term and even before Black Lives Matter. There were riots in the Baltimore, Washington area, I believe. And somebody, in a family, the young the one of the brothers was into this, and they got this, these instructions on how they were gonna proffer this riot in Baltimore, who the friendly cops were, where to meet the friendly cops, and what routes to go on. It was very detailed.
Now this is from 02/2015, folks, before George Floyd, any of that. And, you can catch Owen Reed in it today. Reached the whole operational order, what they're supposed to do, and shows them where they're supposed to gather and where to go if the to find friendly cops. And if you get in some kind of law stuff, go go touch base with this person. It's a multi page document signed, by the way. And what happened was the older brother walked into the, younger brother's room, and he saw these papers crumpled up on the floor. And he uncrumpled them, and and they were these instructions. And, he uploaded them to the net is how they got out, but you can bet they're using the same tactic with everything they do. That's what made it so interesting. I've never seen the compilation of their marching orders before laid out like this. Very, well, very professional, if you wanna put it that way.
And that's who we're dealing with. And and hopefully, hopefully, they would help whatever methods and means they're using to hide themselves from this heinous activity because people can easily get killed in these slots. Do you do you everybody knows what I'm talking about. Right? Where some outside force calls in, tricks the 911 number, gets to the cops, and goes, well, Paul is over there hanging his cat up and trying to skin it alive and shoot people. And they all of a sudden, all the SWAT team shows up at Paul's apartment. And they, you know, come out with your hands up and all that, and it there's a lot of tenseness and potential, bad bad actions coming out of it. And, anyway, that's what they're doing, and they're really relying on it now. I I know they had done it to Marjorie Taylor Green.
I think somebody had swatted her 12 times, Paul, something like that. Well, they finally caught the son of a bitches. They've got them in jail in DC. And anybody that does get caught doing this, burning a Tesla, car going and blowing up Tesla dealership, key in a Tesla car, all the rest of this terrorism that these guys are proffering just because they lost power. They they need to be well, they were putting some of those Jan six guys in jail for thirty, forty years. That's what these people deserve. Pam Bond, he's swatting them with a five year sentence, which is should be quadrupled or more.
So, anyway, that's some of the stuff I've seen this morning since I got up. Paul, you have a comment on that?
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No. I was just agreeing. It should be. Yep. Five years is nothing.
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No. It needs to be, like, mucho on yours. Twenty twenty plus, something like that.
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Send them to Gitmo, drop them in a hole so deep they gotta pump sunshine to them.
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That'd be a good place. Yeah. So hopefully, we're gonna get some law and order going. And, some of this stuff, they've already caught a few of these people that have been harassed in the Tesla dealerships evidently. And, they need to catch a whole bunch more of them. Just just turn Jan six right there on them. I mean, these are legitimate terrorists right here. So, Yeah. Anyway, Owen was saying he said, you know, with the Jan six people, they had billboards up all over the country. Have you seen this seditious person? Do you know who this sedition or seditious person is?
And, well, they I hope they go to extremes. My lord. These people up there, just think of it. You know, every everybody's bitching or, like, some of the the hosts are on bonding. And where where what he promises? What's this Epstein stuff? Are you protecting Israel? All all of that crap. Do do do y'all have any, even idea? I don't know any of us would to the extent that when these people get this position and go and sit down in front of that desk for the first day, they gotta be totally overwhelmed. Mhmm. Roger. So give them a little time, Larry. Give them a little time, would you? Yes, sir. How are you doing this morning?
You're getting swatted o you didn't get swatted overnight, did you?
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No, no, I'm fine. Speaking of Tesla, did you know that in China, it's illegal to be critical toward Tesla? So there's a number of lawsuits that Tesla won that drivers of these Teslas brought against Tesla as a plaintiff and I think there's I think I said I think there's about 11 of them and the plaintiffs brought these lawsuits against Tesla being critical of some type of failure in terms of function or whatever and they ended up losing and having to pay Tesla a certain amount of money. And I'll give you one example that I read about. So there's this older gentleman and he was driving his daughter who's obviously an adult And they're going down the road and then all of a sudden, the car started taking over and driving itself and he went to hit the brakes and he plowed into something like it wouldn't stop and he he ended up crashing and he was claiming that there was something wrong with the Tesla and even his daughter was saying the same thing like this thing just took over and it wouldn't stop.
And so they filed a lawsuit against Tesla for like you know, 20 some thousand dollars or or more, and they had to end up paying that amount of money to Tesla. Isn't that amazing?
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Well, I know there's been reports of these things having a life of their own and doing wacko stuff like that right there over the years, but not too many, but occasionally. Yeah. Could be. That is kinda wacko, but that's in China. So they've got a loser pays, a system over there.
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Yeah. That's in China where that that happened.
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Damn. China's got some sensible stuff going on. I'm shocked. Well, hopefully, we'll get to that point in our country because, there's no reason. I mean, you know, Elon. I I'm sure they hate him. I mean, he just go any I I think he's basically donating his time, and going in there and doing all this really impactful stuff that very few people evidently could do because of his brains, his understanding. What Trump says is, the guy that knows the most about computers that I know, and his team, and they've done some real damage, and they're hurting these guys. So, we'll they're gonna keep lashing out. I think they're building up to something and, Harrison was saying that these SWAT things, they're building up to a point where when Antifa wants to pull an attack and they call one of these in, the police won't respond because there have been so many crywolves.
Well, I don't know if that's their tactic or not, but it would make sense. And, just be you know, I be careful out there, folks. It's incredible. We've already beaten these guys, and we're going along the way trying to get enough people to solidify that position and hear all these people fighting these creeps because they haven't heard or won't listen when they do hear about what we've got here. All we gotta get is numbers. We get some numbers. I think we could really affect some change here. But we're not there yet, but we're working on it. Aren't we, Larry? Hey, Roger. We're talking to people. Yes.
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Yeah. Another thing is, Elon Musk is only the face of Doge. The real person that's has the power behind the scenes. I I did some research. Her name is Amy Gleason. She's the acting administrator of US Doge service. And so there's a number of lawsuits that have been filed against Doge, and she's the one that gets named on the lawsuit as a defender.
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Okay. That's the first time I've heard her name.
[00:24:32] Unknown:
Yeah. I think she was say that. She was high had a high level position in in health care before she got this job over there at Doge. Okay.
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Well, I would say the person ultimately behind it is Trump, not her. She's taken orders from Elon and president Trump, and she's not out on her own doing her own bidding, but she's got the administrative position over it all. What's her name again, Larry?
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Amy Gleason.
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Amy Gleason. Okay. Well, good for Amy. Maybe they'll swat her coming up pretty soon. Who knows? It's a day by day deal. It's, it's just incredible all all these events unfolding everywhere, and now Trump and Putin are talking behind the scenes regularly. And if you'll remember on the first time around, this was their big freak out was that Putin and Trump may talk without one of them in the room being able to hear what the conversation is. Well, evidently, they're having a bunch of those. No leaks. You haven't heard any leaks, have you? That's a good sign. K? I would think.
And, hell of a time. Hell of a time, folks. So, of course, what we do, if there's any new people here, any of you newbies, little newbies, little wet behind the ears. I got a email from somebody that got turned on to me through someone. Joe's, Joe is, Joe's talks and looked me up and this, that, and the other. And, he says, this stuff's starting to make sense to me. So I shot him back the website and everything. And and for you new people, that's the kind of person this shows for. We do discuss all these other things, of course. They're topical. They're interesting. They're timely.
They may have something to do with us directly or indirectly, but, it it doesn't matter. The show is for you, the new people. And we haven't had any new people around asking questions in quite a while, couple of months. I'm wondering, is it is it because of the the the the Trump complacency syndrome? You know? Oh, well, we we got a conservative guy, and he's really doing a lot of stuff. Boy, ain't that good? We can relax for a little while. No. Not really. This is a what Thomas Jefferson say? Constant vigilance Constant vigilance even when these conditions exist that we're dealing with now.
You still gotta be wary of these guys. They're they're unhinged. I I don't know all the adjectives that you could use against these damn people. These kids, I guess, many of them that have been influenced because they're young and stupid, about politics and how things work. And, it's just, it's very sad for me to see them so brainwashed, but they're brainwashable. But the good news is there's a lot of younger people that are starting to come over to the conservative side, evidently huge numbers, and, at least percentage wise. So we'll we'll take it a day at a time. We'll try and grab them of wish we could get Presley back on here. Presley would be our young person a young person, example that could talk to him.
Anyway, that's about what's going on that I've seen between yesterday and today. Anybody else got any observations, questions, comments? This can be like another endless well. And you know what's funny Is I'll do this. I'll I'll y'all got any comment. And then, we go off the air, and everybody wants to say something and ask a question. Right, Paul? I I beg them. Theirs will see. We can always count on Joan coming forward. Good morning, Joan. You're gonna get it started for us right behind Larry. How are you doing? How's the weather in Costa Rica this morning?
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Just perfect. Just perfect. Yeah. I I, yeah, I think I saw Dave from the, you know, the, nationalstatus.com, David and Kate. I think yesterday in the chat, he meant he wrote that a hunt there have been a 28 referrals from the Rents interview with you?
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Right. Yeah. They said a number of people hit on the computer that night because Jeff inadvertently I don't know where he got it, but, off the website or something. I don't know. He put up their website on the page as the go to website. So they sat there and saw he said about a 50, but they got over a hundred people that was checking in. That's good news. We hadn't seen them over here. That's alright. Also They're probably still noodling. They're they're probably still noodling on it, Joan. Now what yes, ma'am. What was your, comment on that?
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Did Trump release the unredacted president Kennedy?
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I think he did. I haven't been able to find anybody since he released it that was going over it. I know Alex had Roger Stone on for a short time yesterday, and he was chomping at the bit. I guess he's the authority in the country on the Kennedy assassination. So he was gonna go through them, and I think Alex is planning on having him back today to come up with what he has found. But, you know, there's 80,000 pages they were releasing. They said 80,000 folders. Now I don't know if a folder contains more than one document, but there's at least 80,000 documents they're releasing, Joan.
Are you a speed reader, dear?
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No.
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Okay. I, I I think that's ridiculous.
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You think it's ridiculous?
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I don't have 80,000. I mean, I could report.
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Well, you know, Joan, he was supposed to, by law, they were supposed to, by law, they were supposed to release them in 2017. And Trump was going to release them all until Mike Pompeo came in and said, no. This you should you shouldn't release all these 80,000 here because they might give some methods and stuff away. And so there's Pompeo, the deep state stooge, playing again. Now this time, he, Trump he was hanging around Trump a little bit, and Trump has cut him off and, cut off his security clearance too. Good. And, yes, Pompeo.
And, so, anyway, I this time it comes around, and he goes, I'm gonna release all of it, you know, on this. We can't get any Epstein stuff. Here's this other stuff. He's promised to do this, so he can release all of it, unredacted my to my knowledge. So we'll find out more this afternoon as we can get loose from our program and hear other folks talking about it. Looks like it was Kennedy. I mean, it looks like it was Johnson that pulled the assassination, Yeah. As we've gotten evidence for lately, but what we don't know is were the Israelis involved and, some of these other things that hopefully we'll find out information on, Joan.
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Okay. Good. Thank you, Roger.
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You're welcome. Okay. Who else? Somebody else got something to yak about? So we got that coming today, all of that. We got, the Roger? After yeah. Effects of all this swatting. Yes. Is that Julie or Nancy? So what are the two?
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It's Nancy. It's Nancy. Hey, Nancy. Hey.
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Good morning. Early. Yep. I have a question
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as a as a student, an ongoing student, my driver's license is up for renewal, and so I'm going in to renew it today. And I drive in Commerce. So, and it that's not the the driver's license is you it's not my issue to push at this point in my life. But,
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I think that's why.
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Yeah. I wanted to, I was going to submit my affidavit along with the renewal application. And do you have any, advice or in terms of whether I should do that? Or
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I I you know what you might do is go ahead and do the application and get the driver's license and then send them the affidavit.
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Well, I was thinking about that too. So because I'd rather not,
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I was thinking about practicing belligerence, and I didn't know if I wanna do that in the DMV. I don't you know, here she we see this they're driving along the interstate, and here's poor little Nancy pulled over with some officer with a gun at your window. Please don't do that, Nancy.
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No. I'm not. I've I have no interest actually in doing that. That that that doesn't sound like a very good scenario to me.
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So I would do that. Maybe if you wanna insist that they have the affidavit or you could try signing, your, driver's license with TDC, either in front of your name or on top of it if see if you can get away with it.
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Do you think the TDC is or I was thinking about without prejudice, UCC one same or ARR.
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Basically, same thing. You're just giving them a little more of a legal thing to look at. TDC means threat, duress, coercion. Basically, the same thing. Right. Yeah. But, you know, see here, the audience might not know. Hey, Mark. Nancy drives in commerce. She drives Lyft, isn't it? One of them done Lyft. One of them, a rideshare. Yeah. Rideshare program platform. Yeah. Okay. So she does a ride share program and little extra funds on the side and whatnot. So you are legitimately in commerce there. Mark, first of all, you got something to add to Nancy's dilemma here?
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Well, when you're talking about signing that, agreement, I wanna bring up what Joe Lustica had talked about was nonassumstitute, which means you don't agree to the contract. You do not undertake it. So you could you could do, like you could try it if you want. Non assumpsit, a s s u, m as in Mary, p as in papa, s I, t as in tango. Okay. Two two separate words, non assumpsit.
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Okay. And,
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it's a Latin phrase that means he did not undertake or he did not promise. I'm looking at some of the historical context. But, in general, it's a denial of the plaintiff's claims. That's not what I was looking for. But it oh, here it is. With the specific action of the subset may be less common today, the concepts of contract and breach of contract which are central to a subset remain relevant in modern legal practice.
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So just basically Mark, talk right in your
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can you talk right under your microphone? You sound like you're off on the side of it or something. Is that any better? Oh, about a 20%.
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Okay. Alright. I just didn't have my microphone close enough. So, you know, Joe said he wrote that down as a signature, and a cop chased him down and have him sign again, sign another ticket. So, but I I agree with Roger. I don't think I would put my affidavit with my application. I would wait until afterwards. I would get my I would get my driver's license. There's no no place for a national to select national, then I would just go ahead and select US citizen, do take care of my business, get my driver's license, and then follow-up with a letter to them saying, you didn't you didn't have a place for a national.
I'm a national according to the Immigration Nationality Act. That's 8110121. Show them the definition. And I don't think you'll have any problems. But I don't think so either. Yeah. You're protecting yourself from, you know, the accusation that that you're a US citizen, which, you know, everything I've read, you you clearly have to say it's my intent to be a US citizen. If they don't give you that option on all these forms, which they typically don't, then you really don't have much other choice but to select US citizen.
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Now let me ask you a question, Mark, if I could interrupt for a second. Before, like, when Brian Howard was doing his stuff in Idaho, it was always the qualifying question is, are you a resident? It wasn't over to citizenship. Have they changed that?
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No. They'll they'll ask that. So that's, you know, again, we're we're getting into the sticky wicket here. They don't give you much options. Now California, you can easily sign up for a driver's license being a noncitizen and a nonresident. They they're sanctuary state. They got all the all the, immigrants that are piling into their state, and they've made exceptions for that. So but I don't know. Your state may may vary. Maybe something you want to look up in advance on what your options are.
[00:38:43] Unknown:
Yeah. We'll give you a few options, Nancy, where you can noodle over them and make a decision, but I I don't believe first of all, and I agree with Mark a %, I don't know that I'd send the affidavit in with the, application. Send it in later. Try TDC or nonassumptionset. See if you can get it past them. But you are legitimately driving in commerce occasionally.
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Yeah. Well, I was more concerned actually about the residency definition. But Virginia so on the application itself, it does have the same United States Of America box, like, for voter registration. So it uses instead of United States, on the top. But, again, so that's not my concern because I can legitimately say, yes. I am that. But the residency but in our question, I was a little bit more concerned about, but I like the idea. It's not actually clear. I'm looking up the codes and the the requirements and how they define things. It's really not that cut and dry.
So I I do like I it's not it's not. Yeah. I'm not surprised. But, I'm more concerned about that, but I like the idea of sending in my affidavit afterwards, to be a part attached to my record.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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And and by the way go in and even even split some hairs on that. Just go, I do drive in a road sharing program. So when I am in that activity, I am in residence, and I do need this. But, otherwise, I'm only in that percentage of time. Otherwise, if I'm driving to the store to go get some groceries, I'm not in that position. So however you wanna phrase it, I don't think you'll get any backlash from them. And the point point is that you legitimately do need one.
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Yes. And I I just wanted to I I think that I'm I think I'm fine too, but I saw it as an opportunity to bring that up forward on the show Well, no. For others as well as myself. But I Mhmm. Because it's pressing. Because my birthday's tomorrow, and, that's when it when it expires.
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Felice Felice Cumpleanos are you're the oldest. Right? Suzanne's younger sister?
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Didn't you tell me that? Well, my
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I'm older than her. I'm the middle child, and and our brother is the oldest eldest child. Oh, I see. Okay.
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Alright. So, and for those who don't know, Nancy's sister's been a listener for ten years, back from the old, truth truth frequency days. And, and then she went away, and she comes back. She's Sadie Sadie married lady now, and, and she listens, I guess, in the background. So how's the new house coming for them? Are they are they in bliss?
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Yeah. Well, they're today is their one year anniversary.
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Oh my gosh. On top of that, yikes. Yeah.
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And, they're having a a party this Saturday to celebrate, because they kind of they eloped, when they got married. And, yeah. So it's a one year anniversary, and they're celebrating. Okay. They're putting I put up for sale their the previous house, and they're, you know, they're in transition, but they've been doing a lot of work, a lot of work.
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So I don't know if listen. Happy anniversary to Dean and Suzanne. And, Dean is very interesting. He's a big time non mercury filling dentist. And I guess Suzanne went to get her mercury fillings taken out. It's how they met. Right? I think that's right. Yes. Yes. And, he interestingly enough, we find out that he had crossed swords with the evil empire previously. So when Suzanne brought him the message of freedom, he was he was readily accepting, I guess. Right? But what what's this? Right? So, anyway and he's ready to fight him, I suppose, now. And congratulations to them and you with a new family member there, and all of that stuff, Nancy.
So very cool. Thank you. This is how the this is how the message spreads. It's an example of how to spread among family here. So, just keep it up. Keep talking to people, and we'll keep growing much slower than, you know, we'd want. But, we're still growing, and at some point, that has a chance to be explosive. Let's put it that way.
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Yes. And I'll I'll pass along your regards to the Yes. Bride and groom. The bride and groom. I may get to I might get to meet them here later on in the year. We're hoping. So we'll see. I know that that they they, I think that's something they look forward to as well coming down your way. Well, thank you, Roger.
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You're welcome, Nancy. We'll treat them real good when they come down. Yes, Samuel.
[00:43:55] Unknown:
Yeah. I have a a comment regarding this issue. I, some of these things like the driver's license, let me give a little background before I state this and then you might sound like a cop out if I don't give a little background, but I'm thinking when I'm doing my notices to the AG, the sheriff, etcetera, and I explain and send them my affidavit, I want to give them a little more deal or detail on what a national is so they can't refute it. They don't know what that means. I would like to have them understand that say in oh, and I want them if they're going to communicate with me, I want them to use my Christian name. They can't use the all uppercase name, things like that.
And then in an instance like the driver's license, it's as a resident technically, I have to be a resident to have one of those and of course as a national I'm in conflict with that. You might point that out and say, in order to stay in peace with you as I come in peace, I intend to, approach this matter under the doctrine of necessity, because I it would it would be difficult for me to not function without a driver's license. So I'm going to accept one, under these conditions about regarding the name of the residency except so you're not I'm not actually waiving any of my rights as a national, getting into this adhesion contract with you. Something like that is is the way I'm thinking of handling it.
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Yeah. Sam Hill, I have a question for you. Didn't your license just expire recently in the last six months or a year? How did you handle that?
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I just re upped for now.
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Okay. And fair enough. I have no problem with people, you know, deciding what battle they're gonna wage. May I I have a question for Mark because I find it interesting when they shifted your license renewal driver's license renewal to your birthday. And, evidently, it's happened in every state, which goes to, it's all uniform. I don't care what state you're in. Is it is it all is
[00:46:43] Unknown:
it all in the new ID thing, Sherry? Back off your phone just a little bit. You're occasionally Sorry. You're popping your peas there. If you could back off just a little, and it won't be not total. It's just intermittently. But, yeah. Go ahead, please.
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Well, I'm trying to think when it happened in Missouri when it shifted to your birthday. It's been probably at least ten years ago.
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Yeah.
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But my question to Mark is being that it's all uniform throughout the states, how do they get away with changing that uniformity? Like in Arkansas, they dispense with definitions, supposedly.
[00:47:38] Unknown:
Gosh. How do you do that? I I did that come along with the with the your ID, star ID, or whatever it was in that legislation? Do you know, Sherry? Because I Real ID? The real ID. I think you can opt out of getting that license. It seems like I've heard I don't want one Yeah. It's optional. Just regularly. Okay. Fantastic.
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Yeah. The other thing that that Terry Lee brought up, how he handled it is he went down to his DMV. I think he's in Washington State or Oregon.
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Yes. And and he he
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he told he told them that, well, I'm a Christian, and I need a Christian name on that thing and a few other things and of course they couldn't they couldn't satisfy what he needed. So now now they're refusing him instead of he's refusing it and then he asked them for a certification that he is now going to voluntarily give it back to them, and he wants them to acknowledge that. And these are the causes why So if he ends up in front of a judge, he can say I didn't refuse it. They refused me. That's another way that it could be done or necessity.
And reading the doctrine of necessity is and understanding that I think is important because our government uses it all the time. And what's good for the government's gotta be good for us. Right?
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And I think hand in hand is, a doctrine of, shoot. Just lost my train of thought. Good hand clean hands. Yeah. Okay. Because they're not coming in with clean hands. No. They're
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probably not.
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Go ahead, Mark. You're also you're also, you know, coming to them in good faith.
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Yeah. So with clean hands. Yes. Clean hands. That's a very important legal, phrase. I
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I approach with clean hands or however it is. And I wanna thank Samuel for for bringing up the doctrine of necessity again. I know Paul producer Paul first brought that up, and I was like, yes. That is that is so perfect because they've got us in a position where you can't hardly operate without being in their system. So when it comes to the driver's license issue and other things, you know, you're almost forced to be, quote, a US citizen. And if they don't have an option for a national, then you don't really have any of the choice. And then follow-up with the letter and like Samuel said, just explain how the doctrine of necessity and to keep the peace, I selected US citizen even though I'm a national.
And you can provide the definition for the national. And And the source. If they have a problem with that, let you know, they should let you know.
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Mark, let me ask you a question. I think that that phrase
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keeping the peace is very important because if you read the fourteenth amendment, there's rebellion in there. And I think Stamper makes the argument that as citizens, you're in rebellion against your own country, your state.
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And I think that's
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the point. You're coming in peace because you're a national. Right?
[00:51:17] Unknown:
Yes. And it also the the legitimacy of that is the war and American Emergency Powers Act in '33 when they made citizens of The United States the enemy. Well, I don't wanna be your enemy. I mean, I hate you. I wanna kill you, but maybe but figuratively, of course. But, but, you know, we wanna clean hands here, you devil. Yesterday, Mark, it came up with Larry, I think, about Roger,
[00:51:45] Unknown:
may I before you continue on? Okay. Go ahead. That Go ahead. Honor and decorum is another phrase that we need to place on our documents. Peaceful, lawful, private, honor and decorum.
[00:52:01] Unknown:
I haven't heard that before, but that's good. Yesterday, this came up, Mark. You, of course, weren't with us. You kinda hang around on Wednesdays and Saturdays now. Right? Yeah. Is that your That's correct. Your attendee schedule?
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Yep. Yes.
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Okay. Yes, sir. Well, Larry came up with the old, protection for allegiance, allegiance for protection. And how do we hold their feet to the fire on that? Yeah. That is by the way, Larry, that is our powers right there. K? Because, again, this is not a choice of theirs. It's it says in the statute that's large. And in the original act, not nationality act of 1940, a nationalized total allegiance to a small estate. Well, that is, of course, a small estate, not the federal boys. And, but they don't understand that that word allegiance there triggers protection on their end.
I'm sure I doubt if these guys were ever exposed to any of this background in law school. Wow. Mark, really? Know, teach it So they don't understand this. They you know, the European coming and telling them all this stuff they weren't taught but should know. In their position, they know or should have known. Well, if you're an attorney general, you knew, know, or should have known what what gives you jurisdiction, shouldn't you? Well, hell, I guess so. Okay. So I wonder now, originally, we we discussed doing some sort of a short I I hope it would be short, legal brief and and putting that as the cover letter to the whole state chain, attorney general, sheriff, etcetera. Right. But the then your idea of taking a asking the court for declaratory judgment and doing a memo of law that that any of us could go into a state of a state court and file and see how they respond. And, of course, if they respond negatively, you've always got an appeal. Right? So you got an appeal to the appellate level, and and it could even take it further than that if they wanna rule against you. I don't know how they'd rule against you because the facts are totally in our favor. But what do you think about doing that and having students file that in some of the state courts we're in just to see and get a feel for you. You don't need one student to to, you know, raise that issue. It doesn't have to be a whole bunch of them.
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But, let me give you this is this came up when I first started joining you on the show and listening and, you know, we talked about the protection side of things. Well, how do I prove? How do I hold their feet to the fire that they're supposed to give me protection? And there's a US Supreme Court case from 1875. To the best of my knowledge, it's never been overturned.
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And most of the social work
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Yeah. I'm gonna give that to you. It's Minor, m I n o r, versus Happersett, h a, p as in papa, p as in papa, set. H a p as in papa p as in papa e as in Edward r as in Roger s as in Sierra e as in echo t as in tango t as in tango. Happerset. Eighty eight US one hundred and sixty two. That's the US Supreme Court and it's from 1875. Let me read this off to you. It's a paragraph. Yeah, please. Please do. It's really cool. Says there cannot be a nation without a people. The very idea of a political community such as a nation is implies an association of persons for the promotion of the general welfare.
Each one of the persons associated becomes a member of the nation formed by the association. He owes it allegiance and is entitled to its protection. Allegiance and protection are, in this connection, reciprocal obligations. The one is compensation for the other. Allegiance for protection and protection for allegiance.
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Boy, you could just lay that in the cover letter right there. Take
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care of most of it. Yep. Yep. A political community. And you you've given your allegiance to whatever state you're you're in. Some people say it's their birth state. I don't know. I think it can be flexible. But you're the one who gets to decide. If I wanna be if I wanna pledge my allegiance to Oklahoma small s, state, not state of Oklahoma. Right? There's a difference. State of Oklahoma with the large s, state, capitalized s. That's part of the the the federal, subdivision. But if it's Oklahoma, small s state, and call it Oklahoma State, that's the original Constitution of your state.
[00:56:58] Unknown:
Yep. And that's how I would that's how I would list it. Did you find any other cases that revolved around that?
[00:57:05] Unknown:
No. No. I haven't. That's the primary one.
[00:57:09] Unknown:
Oh, bad. Yeah. This is how rare this knowledge is, folks. I mean, you're being blessed by John Benson sacrifices is what's going on here. And if you're new, we'll get you a second, Sherry. If you're new, this is the primary deal that we're all everybody's running on is this. As I said on rinse the other night, you remember seeing in movies where the guy would clench his fist and hit his breastplate there on his armor and go, yes, my liege. And if you'll remember, Brent was quick on that. And in the background, he goes, liege, that's part of allegiance. Yep. So before I could even get to it, he had put those things together, very sharp of Rince, actually.
And what this is was the primary formula for the feudal system. Your the lord of the manor asked you for your allegiance, and then he'd give you protection. And it's an automatic formula. And just like the case says, you all you have to do is invoke one side of it. The other's automatic. Okay? And so these state attorney generals, even though they probably never been exposed to this, This is their duty. It's their it's not a choice for them. It's an obligation. K? And, obligation or duty. And so who are they supposed to protect us from? Like, well, if you're in Oklahoma, it's supposed to protect you from them damn Texans that keep coming up there and harassing you, Mark. And, it's supposed to protect you from the federal government coming in and taking over the state as a political subdivision and going, well, you gotta have this license. You gotta apply by these traffic laws. Well, no, I don't, sir. You're supposed to give me protection from these intruders, not prosecution.
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Yep. I agree.
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So this is our really our teeth and and we we might ought to move a little bit more in that direction of having a few folks maybe go in and file declaratory judgments. Isn't that what that is? And there's the whistle. So okay. We're gonna say goodbye to our friends everywhere that we're, cutting off here at the top of the hour, and we will continue our in-depth and very important conversation in just a second as soon as Paul bids you a due. Adieu. Exactly.
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Yes. And you'll get to hear about things like jurisdiction. He's fascinating. It it really is fascinating, actually, but it's so damned important. And there's so few people that understand this. So, again, John Benson reaching out from the grave through me and touching you to help improve your life and your vision and your stance and all that stuff. So, anyway, that would be a good idea, I think, if we could maybe, if I Mark, you got a lot of damn spare time up there in Oklahoma. See if you see if you can draft up to Memphis. I'll let you. I will if it will give you 40 lashes if you don't. Yes, Joan.
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No. Sherry first. Oh, Sherry. Okay. Alright. Sorry, girls. Whoever's No. No. No. No. No. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Sherry, don't raise your voice. To go to half or sat. Sorry. Sherry, don't raise your voice.
[01:00:51] Unknown:
Very sure. I'm not to a different phone that that will use the story. You're on just get the mic just get the phone away from your mouth because you're like when you're on your other phone, you're you're faint, and now you're on the one that's real close. So when you hit those popping your p's and s and your s's, it's over modulating. That's what I'm trying to get you to do. Just back off. Apologize. Just so well, that's okay. We understand you're excitable. Okay? Just back off from the microphone a little bit. Both women are. Get to you in a second. Sherry's got a pertinent question. I'm having to do all this organization. Go ahead, Sherry. We'll get you Joan in a minute. It's about a Happersat.
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Sorry for the p's and s's. I found it interesting that he talked about the people first and then followed it up with person. Do you find any significance in that mark, or does that make him quote synonymous?
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Let me go look at that again.
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I think at one point, he's talking about a collective and the other, he's talking about the individuals that make up the collective. That was what I took from it going on. Yeah. Yeah. It talks about a people. So it says there cannot be a nation without a people,
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period. The very idea of a political community, which would be a small s state, comma, such as a nation is, comma, implies an association of persons for the promotion of their general welfare. Now, remember, persons can be an individual.
[01:02:27] Unknown:
Right? And so can people. Yeah. Yeah. And they're a class. See? These persons are a class because they all fit into this one thing they're talking about. Go ahead.
[01:02:38] Unknown:
Right. But people can be, singular or plural as well. And so I find that significant.
[01:02:46] Unknown:
Well, you read in I think you read in the context here that the organization or the state is by a group of people. It can't be just one person. I guess it could be. But then when you get back down to the individuals, it's persons. And, of course, you'd be talking about persons that were in the instance, state nationals that could, form that political union and not the federal government come in and overlaying it. Yes. Men and women. Okay. Both. Yep. Well, my question is,
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does that tie the two together, people in person?
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Or does it that in what he said right there does. I think in right there, it pretty well identifies it pretty clearly to me. I don't see any ambiguity at all here.
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It also uses the the masculine pronoun of he following the in the following,
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sentence. Don't forget. Don't forget. The militia was everything. And I'm sorry for you gals, but back in 1875, things were different.
[01:03:53] Unknown:
I'm not I'm not objecting to the pronoun. I'm okay with that. I'm just I'm pointing out if it were corporation, which is also a person, it wouldn't use he or she. So I'm just I'm pointing out that it is consistent internally
[01:04:08] Unknown:
to this the Yeah. Well, I agree with you, Nancy.
[01:04:12] Unknown:
Yeah. The the in terms of persons, in the context of which it's being written, it seems very clear that it's talking about a natural person, man or woman,
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not you. Yep. Me too. I'd say so too. Don't forget this wasn't all muddied up back in those days. Go ahead. I always wanted. What about Joan? We don't refer hold it. We got Joan.
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Joan? Hello?
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Yes. What if the governor or the attorney general if if they are presented with that case and they say, oh, that applies to citizens, US citizens and the federal government. The yeah. They the citizens owe yeah. That's referring to citizens owe allegiance to the federal government and the federal government giving them,
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account say citizens.
[01:05:06] Unknown:
It does not say citizens. It does it doesn't say nationals either.
[01:05:10] Unknown:
No. It just says a person. So Okay. If if you're owing allegiance, you're supposed to get protection. That's all this is about. Whether you're owing allegiance or you've pledged let me say it correctly. If you pledge allegiance to US, then The United States is supposed to give you protection. See.
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Right.
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Well, if you pledge allegiance to a smaller state, then that state is supposed to give you protection.
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Remember, after the fourteenth amendment, supposedly, it was written for former black slaves. They were all over the states of the union, and there was backlashes against them in many instances by the nationals of the state, if you want the state citizens, if you wanna put it that way. So when they came out with the fourteenth amendment, they were giving all the new citizens of The United States protection, and the allegiance came after that. They owed allegiance because they got protection. In the other opposite, we're getting we're owing allegiance and getting protection. It's just reversed.
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Okay. Great. Thank you.
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Okay. Roger?
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Yes.
[01:06:24] Unknown:
I I hate that word person. That is the whole reason for Roe versus Wade because a person had to be born or naturalized in order to have any Go argue Right. Go argue go argue with Gaius. And then you can easily substitute man or woman. And as far as allegiance, God's gotta be first in my case. And if man's not, kowtowing to God's law, I got a problem with that law, and that should be clearly stated, I think.
[01:06:56] Unknown:
Well, I don't think it's the word person that I think the the, legal concept behind that is just totally valid. Okay? You just gotta know which person.
[01:07:06] Unknown:
It is very confusing. Why not say man or woman and be clear about it? Well, because that's still not true.
[01:07:13] Unknown:
Oh, okay. Man or woman, where do they get their rights and who they owe their duties, man or woman? Well, that's who the person is. Well, I just said I just said or a man. Okay. I mean, I think it's totally legitimate the way Gaius did this because now you can identify. If you understand it, you can identify it real easily. Oh, person. Well, I'm not that person. That's a fourteenth amendment person. In the fourteenth amendment, I'm this national guy. I don't owe any duties to the federal government. Sorry. I get no civil rights from you. I owe no correlative duties. Pound sand.
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Roger, one of the biggest problems with the country is Lincoln brought in the he ruined the common law by bringing in military Roman rule. Well,
[01:07:58] Unknown:
that may be true, Samuel, but it doesn't have any effect on this person thing to my knowledge. You're you're talking apples and oranges now. And it The person goes back to Gaius. Singing a chord. Doing anything in the chord, I think, is a mistake. That's not our venue. It's not where we belong. Oh, no. I've I helped Samuel. I try and get everybody out of court for God's sakes.
[01:08:22] Unknown:
Always have. Out of court. If you're doing a declaratory judgment and you're doing it through the court system, I think you have to do it somewhere else is all I'm saying. Roger.
[01:08:31] Unknown:
Roger, Ted, Jared? Is the call just hold on a second. You're putting in something and going, is this true legally by your definitions and your understanding or not? You're not putting up in front of a court. You're just going to the court and filing it as a declaratory judgment asking for their opinion. That's what you were doing. Well, the assumption is that you're a citizen to start with. It's not our intention. Not if you, well, not if you put the damn affidavit with it. Their presumption's out the damn window.
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Alright. Well, you know, we can make that argument. I'm just
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Okay. Well, that's the best nonthreatening way to at all. I'm not It's the it's it's the best nonthreatening way of approaching this that I've ever heard of, quite frankly, and I thank Mark for bringing it forward. I wouldn't have thought about that.
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Roger.
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Wouldn't it work just as well sending it to the AG and your prosecutor and the sheriff
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instead of going into the court? But how about if you had a decision from one of their state courts that everything was legitimate, and then you send that to all of them? Then they got no place to come and say this is much a crap. Brett Allen
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Brent Allen Winter said never ask them a question because they lie.
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Well, he's talking about it in a courtroom setting. Samuel. Alright. Yeah. Okay, Samuel. You don't like it, don't do it. Who else is the one? Say something. Roger. Me. Yes. Marco.
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I agree with Samuel with what he's saying. Just gonna explain something about the differences. There's the word person. You can use it for a natural person too, but there is a definition in the code where it says US persons.
[01:10:15] Unknown:
So just don't use US. Well, yeah, well, US persons are fourteenth amendment citizens.
[01:10:21] Unknown:
Right. Correct. And the declaratory judgment or information that, Samir just mentioned, that's as a, national, you have the authority, not the public servants and the public officials in the federal system. So you're not asking them to do anything for you. So you don't wanna use that because you're asking you're giving authority to a judge to give you the information instead of you presenting
[01:10:57] Unknown:
wrong if he's given you wrong information, you appeal it. Right. But you just don't give them that authority. We don't we're no longer a person. Folks. You can see we're divided on this. Alright. Alright. If some of you wanna do that and follow-up, fine. If some of you don't wanna do it for these other reasons, that's fine too. I don't care. And I'm just looking for a way to find where we can get teeth and get it legitimately. That's what I'm looking for. I I agree with you, Roger.
[01:11:25] Unknown:
So that would be administratively, you know, going through the court or, you know, carrying our court. That's what this is.
[01:11:34] Unknown:
I mean, like, through paper. We we start We say court, and everybody thinks you're going in on a case. This is not that. This is writing a memorandum of law and going to the clerk and filing it as, can you give me a legal opinion on this? That's what it is. Let let me clarify. Going to court.
[01:11:55] Unknown:
Let let me clarify real quick. The court the court action is the last resort. If if a government agency won't recognize your status and they're trying to harm you and they they shouldn't have the right to do whatever they're doing, you your your last resort is to go in court. But don't start with the court, you know, that should be like Mirka says, you got this administrative process. You want to go through as much of that as possible. And if they don't see the light, then you can put you could bring in a court action that would be not for money. You're not suing anyone.
You're just asking the court for an official opinion, which you should already have backed up. In other words, a memorandum of law that's in your favor and just pin the other side down where they can't move forward. They have no other argument. Here. But the the courts are your last resort.
[01:12:53] Unknown:
Okay. Well, this is what I'm trying to achieve. This protection for allegiance at the state level is our teeth. And we had I had never stumbled on that concept on how important this is before a couple of years ago. There's one one day on the show here we're talking about it. Well, now if that's our teeth, how do we get them sharpened? If they if you if you put this notice into the attorney general, he's never been exposed to this, and he thinks you're a little protestor of some sort. Well, how do you put the teeth into his behind or her? That's what I'm looking at. Call with them.
[01:13:33] Unknown:
No. They Dwayne Dwayne and, what's his name, from Louisiana
[01:13:40] Unknown:
Yeah. They they were over there talking to their sheriff and the attorney general. So, I mean, it's a good idea to try to get on the phone with them and talk to them. Well, it is if you can get to them. I think they were talking with an assistant, maybe in the AG. I don't remember. They hadn't didn't doesn't seem like it worked very well, though, does it? We hadn't heard anything since this one. With the with the sheriff Well, we that did. Well, we don't know. But I don't know about that attorney general. Okay. We don't know. He got elected. We hadn't heard anything more. If he's interested, those guys don't check-in and tell us. So here we are hanging around the end of the limb. To Okay? I'll send them a message to see if they can give us some info on it. Okay. Here's the question. How do we get the attorney general's attention to give us the protection that we are due and owing from that person and that position according to history that goes back over a thousand years and according to all the trappings of the word jurisdiction. How do we get their attention?
[01:14:40] Unknown:
I think I have the answer. The solicitor general. And they they are the ones that defend The US against four foreign nations. About There
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Are you talking about the supreme court level?
[01:15:00] Unknown:
Federal support No. Solicitor general. The solicitor general is in the department
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of justice above They're do you know what they do? Do you know what their job is?
[01:15:12] Unknown:
Gerry. To state what the law is, And they know it's a different represent
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they represent the federal government in front of the Supreme Court solicitor general. This one under Correct. But there's more. There's more. Okay. You're overmodulating
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again. Back off your phone a little bit, please. We're gonna stop her from There's more, and I would like Mark to answer this question. Shouldn't our questions go to the solicitor general instead of the attorney general of the states?
[01:15:46] Unknown:
Well, I don't know.
[01:15:48] Unknown:
I have to They are the ones that represent The US interests to foreign countries.
[01:15:56] Unknown:
And every state You're talking about in the state. Sherry, you're talking about in the states. We were just talking about federal. Which is it?
[01:16:06] Unknown:
Well, aren't the states foreign to the federal? And would they have the answer? And would they know the common law as well as statute law? I yield.
[01:16:23] Unknown:
The main person for us, Roger, is the secretary of state of DC. He's the one that handles foreign foreign, resident, statuses. So then there's the attorney general. We can write a letter for the attorney general and the secretary of state and have them answer it,
[01:16:43] Unknown:
request it, you know, in a Okay. Which secretary of state, America? The state or the feds? DC.
[01:16:49] Unknown:
DC. He's the one that handles foreign. He's a foreign department for citizenship statuses. So include him and attorney general and talk you know, put something together to have them answer those questions. You know, this is your duty. You know? The point out their duties and make sure that we ask our questions or who however we wanna write it. Each personal Yeah. Individual person doing their their paperwork. What I'd like for some of you to do is to do that right there and start writing letters and asking them these things. Quadra. K. I've been working with my attorney general, so I I, CC him with everything, and I also include the secretary of state because he is the one that gives you or was giving,
[01:17:40] Unknown:
national. Which sec which secretary of state? The US or California? See, this is where all this gets very confusing. Okay.
[01:17:50] Unknown:
Alright. Larry was your person.
[01:17:53] Unknown:
Well, he's the only person. He's in control of all matters concerning citizenship, period.
[01:18:00] Unknown:
Period. He he they were giving out, certificates for nationals. Right? They stopped doing that. So they can give you per For Samoans.
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It was for for both of us for both all of them. Well, I don't it doesn't state that. It doesn't state that. It says that they ask them to go get a passport. No. It doesn't.
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But because they include us and hide us behind the US National,
[01:18:27] Unknown:
we can use that as our tactic. You'll go ahead and use it. I don't believe that applies, but go ahead and use it if you want. Larry,
[01:18:35] Unknown:
what do you got? Well, hold on. Before we move on No, Sherry. Larry, if you do not mind,
[01:18:41] Unknown:
could Mark speak to about the solicitor general? You gotta get get your mouth away from the damn microphone.
[01:18:51] Unknown:
Fair enough. You continue
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to overmodulate, and it ruins what you're saying.
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Any interregnum Raj,
[01:19:01] Unknown:
can I make a comment? Solicitor general is very important. And could Mark speak to that?
[01:19:08] Unknown:
K. Well, before he answers have to do some research on it.
[01:19:14] Unknown:
Okay. Sherry, you may not know this or not, but you were very vocal on the show and the after show on Friday. I spent eight hours editing and working on the archive recording just because people were too loud and they were distorting. Now lose the damn cell phone. Get back on your home phone because that doesn't do that. If you're gonna be a part of the program, don't be a part of the problem.
[01:19:47] Unknown:
I have tried three different venues, my home phone, my cell phone, and my laptop. And it just seems like none of them are consistent.
[01:19:59] Unknown:
Sherry, I don't request. I yield. I have a request, Sherry. If if you say may I, wait for an answer. Just don't butt in. Thank you.
[01:20:14] Unknown:
Okay. Alright. I'm gonna put Sherry on the back burner for a minute. Let her get her phone situation under control. Larry, you were trying to inject something a minute ago, I think.
[01:20:27] Unknown:
Yes. So getting back to the original question, how do we get the attorney general of a state to give us protection? And you offered an idea to get a declaratory judgment. So I think some students are concerned that a declaratory judgment is getting permission from the court, but I think I don't think you see it that way. I think you see it as a declaratory judgment is getting the court to agree with your facts. Is that right?
[01:21:05] Unknown:
Well, in essence, yes.
[01:21:11] Unknown:
Right. And you don't see it as getting permission from the court?
[01:21:16] Unknown:
No. I'm putting a set of facts in them, asking them their legal expertise. Wait. I I I'm not looking for permission. If they rule against you, you'd want to appeal that, I would think. If they rule said this has no merit, well, hold it. These are legal facts. I'd appeal that to the appellate level. And I have heard over the years, by the way, many years ago, that that's the first place you get real laws at the appellate level.
[01:21:43] Unknown:
Right. I agree with with this idea. I think it's a good idea.
[01:21:47] Unknown:
Hello, Roger? What we could do what we could do is you could go ahead and take that memorandum of law and include that in a cover letter to all these people so they'd have something to read. Then if they didn't recognize it, now you go and ask the court for declaratory judgment. How about that, Mark?
[01:22:06] Unknown:
Yeah. That's your administrative process, and your court is the last thing you wanna do.
[01:22:13] Unknown:
There's there's Gary.
[01:22:15] Unknown:
Yeah. It's Gary. Love Walter.
[01:22:18] Unknown:
Gary. We're sitting here arguing
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we're sitting here arguing about split hairs.
[01:22:28] Unknown:
Well, I try and say that, but everybody wants to argue about split hairs.
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Our ancestors understood very well that there was two statuses in this country. We call them the Jim Crow laws Correct. That understood and passed two different statuses, two different laws for what we considered at that time blacks and whites. It was not about race. It was about political status.
[01:23:01] Unknown:
True. True.
[01:23:04] Unknown:
And people, you're sitting here splitting hairs over nothing. And don't try to tell me I don't know what I'm talking about. I've been studying this stuff for twenty five or thirty years.
[01:23:15] Unknown:
We do that around here a lot. Gary, how are you doing? Excuse me. Is that shit? Are you? Yes. Are you talking to convince
[01:23:30] Unknown:
You're still alive that Now I'm dealing with now I'm dealing with an MRSA infection from the hospital in my right arm and at the, IV site where they put an IV in it. I now have MRSA. So it it's just been one thing after another for the last eight months.
[01:23:53] Unknown:
So sorry, buddy. So What are they doing for the MRSA?
[01:23:58] Unknown:
Just giving me antibiotics.
[01:24:01] Unknown:
There's gotta be some strong antibiotics. That stuff's almost totally resistant from my understanding. Manuka honey.
[01:24:09] Unknown:
Manuka honey is in premier remedy for MRSA.
[01:24:14] Unknown:
Manuka honey. Thank you. Manuka honey, Gary, if you ever heard of that. Manuka?
[01:24:21] Unknown:
It's from the tea tree
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flower. Yes. May I you've got to fight that infection internally. Calcium bentonite clay and colloidal silver. Not at the same time, of course.
[01:24:37] Unknown:
Okay. There's some more suggestions, Gary, for you. You're back home. Right?
[01:24:43] Unknown:
Yes. I am at home. I'm not in the hospital now. Okay. Well soon, Gary.
[01:24:48] Unknown:
Get well soon.
[01:24:50] Unknown:
Thank you.
[01:24:53] Unknown:
But Anything that you use externally, it should be calcium but not clay to draw it out. The silver should be used internally to push it out, a yield.
[01:25:05] Unknown:
And, Gary, I know you're on Youngevity. Look at their killer biotic three capsules three times a day until it's gone. That stuff is incredible.
[01:25:18] Unknown:
Well, thank you, Dave. I appreciate the input, folks.
[01:25:22] Unknown:
Manuka Manuka honey owns
[01:25:25] Unknown:
on the skin. Thank you. Have a good day. Manuka honey on the skin. There you go. Mel like, melaleuca. Meluca honey. Sounds like similar. So, Gary, well, hell, it's good to hear your voice, man, and I agree with you. We these folks are just insisting on splitting a lot of hairs, on these things. So what what are you weighing in on here?
[01:25:51] Unknown:
What's your what's your stand? The The point is I mean, we keep talking about this person thing and everything else. And folks, our ancestors knew it with the Jim Crow laws. That's why they were passed. Sure. They knew that there was a dual status in this country at that time.
[01:26:10] Unknown:
They did. Well, I mean, who else was the third who was the thirteenth amendment written for?
[01:26:17] Unknown:
I don't know exactly. All you have to do is connect the dots. Duh. They're well they're able to be connected if you concentrate and think about it. This stuff about we get you know, I don't have the opportunity to listen to this show live now very often, but I do listen to the replays because I do care about you, Roger, and I care about the success of this movement. But when you get into these circular arguments like you're having, folks, it does nothing but turn other people off.
[01:26:54] Unknown:
I agree.
[01:26:57] Unknown:
It's all there. It's everything is there. It's all there. It's all been laid out a hundred times on this show. Connect the dots.
[01:27:10] Unknown:
And I'm gonna get off here. I've I've Why don't you go go rest, Anne? But drop in when you feel better and talk to us. Okay?
[01:27:17] Unknown:
Thank you, Gary.
[01:27:20] Unknown:
Roger. Thanks, Roger. Thanks, Gary. Tell Gina she's doing a good job. Thank her too. Yes. Now who's Sketch wanna say something? Was that Sketch?
[01:27:28] Unknown:
Yes. I do. And it I'm circling back to some conversations. Samuel's, mentioning his Christian name, you mentioning that you're not that person, and I wanted to mention the word identity. Now I think that's something that maybe we should discuss. Now I have a question for Mark. Samuel says he wants to use his Christian name. That identifies him. Now the question is, does that confer jurisdiction? No. I well, it's your identity. It depends. You you say I'm not that person.
[01:28:18] Unknown:
What what well, what the first jurisdiction is you answering those two questions, yes, and signing something. How'd you sign it?
[01:28:27] Unknown:
Well, Mark, I I understand. And Mark says, well, all cap name doesn't confer jurisdiction. Now does identity confer
[01:28:37] Unknown:
It depends on what what you say you are does. Is that what you mean by identity? Whose identity is it? Their identity for you or your identity for yourself?
[01:28:49] Unknown:
Well, Sam well, it is always yourself. I think you you have the right to identify yourself.
[01:28:55] Unknown:
Just like But you're implying that they can do that. You they can't. You can. Only you can.
[01:29:03] Unknown:
Understood. Understood. Now now so
[01:29:07] Unknown:
when? I This is what Gary this is what Gary's talking about. It's this right here, but go ahead.
[01:29:15] Unknown:
Okay. Well, I I I don't need any more discussion. I'll just bring it up. If we don't need to discuss anymore, that's why I yield. Well, I'm I mean, the only thing that that that to my knowledge, Sketch, again, to my knowledge,
[01:29:27] Unknown:
is when you sign that to answer those two questions yes and sign something, you're agreeing to their hidden contract. And that's the one thing that matters. I don't know what the and now they could perceive you as that person, but only because you told them you were. I mean, Sketch ought to know what he is. Ignorance of the law is no excuse. He did this his whole lifetime and told us yes and then signed it. I I'm gonna take him at his word. Right? Right. Well, then that then they're determining your identity, but you're the one that gave it to him.
[01:30:03] Unknown:
Right. I agree totally. I just wanted to I I think identity never been talked about. Person has and, strong man has and, person has.
[01:30:16] Unknown:
So I'm just throwing Okay. Woah. I've Well, no. We talk about your identity. Sketch, we talk about your identity for fourteen years here. File this affidavit, and you won't be this over here. You'll be this over there. Those are both identities, aren't they?
[01:30:32] Unknown:
Well, yes. They are. I'm just saying the word Okay. We've been never been really used. Would And there is something called the law of identity.
[01:30:40] Unknown:
I just bring it in new to me. So it's new to me, but I know the word used per person is used all the damn time. It's used in statues. It's used in all kinds of things. It goes back two thousand years. Hold on a second, Larry. It goes back two thousand years to a guy named Gaius, g a I u s, in Rome. He wrote a book called Gaius' Institutes. The whole first part of the first institutes by the guy that originated the law is on the word person. I kinda think that means it's important. How about you?
[01:31:13] Unknown:
Very.
[01:31:15] Unknown:
Okay. Roger? I'm not that person. I don't see any ambiguity here. Yeah. I guess you could say I'm not that identity, but that isn't as specific as person. With us, we wanna be as specific as possible to avoid their traps.
[01:31:34] Unknown:
Understood. Hi, you. Larry.
[01:31:38] Unknown:
Yeah. I don't think there's anything wrong with the word person because the Lord doesn't think there's anything wrong with using the word person. So in the King James Bible, the word person or persons is used a hundred and seven times. And it says in first Peter one seventeen, and if you call on the father who without respect of persons judgeth according to every man's work, pass the time of your sojourning here in fear.
[01:32:12] Unknown:
Alright. Now I know that guy Bill Richardson was trying to say the word person's bad, and one of his examples, some biblical quote, it says, stay away from persons who are evil. And he took that persons were persons meant everybody was evil, and you don't wanna use that word. Well, that's just a total misconstruing of what they're saying right there.
[01:32:37] Unknown:
Roger, please. So?
[01:32:40] Unknown:
Yes. Is that Chris? I think that's Chris. Hey, Roger. I got something for Gary. Well, never mind, Chris. Some I guess it's the delay. Alright. Hold on, Dave. Chris, you were Okay. I think that was you. I think that was you. Right?
[01:32:57] Unknown:
No. This is Sheldon. And Oh, hi, Sheldon. I'm sorry. No. That's alright. Little off in the weeds here, something normal. Carl has something to say. And if he won't, I'll say it for him. Tell him, Carl. Alright.
[01:33:13] Unknown:
Yeah. Go ahead, Carl. Oh, Carl. Waiting on the delay, Carl.
[01:33:23] Unknown:
Okay. I don't think I don't think he has some.
[01:33:27] Unknown:
Okay. Here he is now. You got it.
[01:33:30] Unknown:
Sheldon, I don't I don't I wasn't gonna say anything, so you can you can say what you want.
[01:33:36] Unknown:
No. You need to say it because it's gonna uplift everybody.
[01:33:44] Unknown:
Well, funny story it's a funny story to me is all it is, and it's just a coincidence, and that's how I look at it. Is that what you're talking about?
[01:33:54] Unknown:
I'm talking about you got to use your card. It got it arrived on time.
[01:33:59] Unknown:
Yeah. So the other day, I was traveling. We're heading home, and I was a couple lanes over from the exit that I needed, and I cut over. And I knew there was a cop around because I could hear it on my my radar detector. And as I cut over, I didn't cut anybody off, but apparently, the cop was far enough behind me that he saw it all, and his lights went on immediately. I cut over two lanes and then cut through the median to get off the exit. Stopped at the stoplight, and I was gonna go straight as a three way stop. And I was in the middle to go straight, which led me to a parking lot that I was gonna pull over in.
And the officer ran up to my window, banged up my window to give me your license or give me your give me your ID. And so I said, I'll be pulling up right there, and he insisted, give me now. And I gave him my ID. And this time, which is this is actually the third time I've been pulled over since I got pulled over with using my driver's license a while back. And this time, along with the other times, they got my ID. I went and parked. And about ten, fifteen minutes later, he walks back and says simply, I'm not giving you a, I'm not giving you any, I'm just giving you a warning.
But and he insisted on me saying my last name, and I I just didn't give him anything. I said it's on my license. It's on the on my ID card, and he said, oh, he he he agreed and let me go, but it's just another, occasion. And I think for me, it's just a matter what I've noticed is the first time I got pulled over, I spouted too much stuff for the officer. And I think what he did is he said, I thought the judge figured out and gave me the ticket. I've been pulled over now a few times, and I swear it's not my norm to get pulled over that much. But, the times that I have sent, I've just got warnings, back to back warnings. One of them I was doing 85 and a 70, and I just got a warning. So I just got a car now shut.
[01:36:30] Unknown:
Okay. Good good good story. My my suggestion, start paying attention to your driving.
[01:36:37] Unknown:
There's two people that wanted to chime in there. K? I just wanted to ask Carl Roger if if his ID is the passport card.
[01:36:45] Unknown:
Well, I think that's what he's talking about, yes.
[01:36:48] Unknown:
Was the car registered?
[01:36:51] Unknown:
Is the car registered?
[01:36:54] Unknown:
The car was registered. It is not in my name. I've since taken it out of my name and put it in trust.
[01:37:02] Unknown:
Okay. Alright. Well, congratulations on the last two the last two. Yes. Who's that?
[01:37:11] Unknown:
Sheldon again. I have another person. Eva got a 06 on her passport card with five stars before she was a national. She may wanna talk about that. I'm done. Okay.
[01:37:29] Unknown:
Oh, I don't know anything about the stars or the numbers other than you guys think it's really important. Go ahead.
[01:37:36] Unknown:
Well, I just wanted to point out that ID stands for identity, which I tried to bring up, I yield.
[01:37:44] Unknown:
Okay. So anybody got any questions for Carl or comments or other stuff? Thank you, Carl. Congratulations. Jesse, can you hear me? Your wife are you making your wife a believer yet?
[01:37:59] Unknown:
No. She's she's she was mad. She said I should've got a ticket. In fact, both times, she insisted I should've got a ticket. And the last the last one I got pulled over before, this is when when I got my my first ticket that's listening to you, it I got it on the day that I got my passport, yet I hadn't received my passport yet. It was just in the mailbox. The and so I did my letters to the court trying to do it administratively, through paperwork, and the judge gave me a warrant. And two days before I was going to court on that one, the I got pulled over doing 85 and a 70.
And the officer said, you're aware you have a small warrant for your arrest. And I said, supposed to be going to court on Monday to get this resolved. And he said, I'm not gonna give you a ticket, but you need to slow down. And so and that was I agree with
[01:39:06] Unknown:
it. I I agree with the cop. That that's a little lead footage. I I would strongly suggest you try and get on top of that.
[01:39:15] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. My my legs are partially paralyzed, so sometimes I don't know I'm going as fast as I do. My eyes don't work well either. No. I think so. I can relate to it. Have a valid license? I do have a valid license.
[01:39:31] Unknown:
And So so they could have seen that when they looked up your passport ID name? It should have shown up.
[01:39:39] Unknown:
Yeah. I imagine it has. I actually went in and handed the state I actually have two two licenses because I lost one of them a while back. And I handed that one of the licenses in to the state because I tried to, turn it in, essentially. And they insisted that I didn't need to do that, and I said, no. I'm I'm not a I'm not a resident. I'm not a US citizen anymore, and I need to turn in. And they would not allow me to turn it in. And since then, I've written a letter. I've never submitted it, to the to the driver's department, and the letter is, I don't know what's the I guess, think of the name. It's invalidating my driver's license, but I haven't turned that in.
And so I'm I'm certain there's a note saying that I don't have a license, but I'm not really sure what they've got because I did leave it with them. I put my hands up finally after meeting with manager and everybody. I said, I don't want this license anymore. And I I left, and then I wrote a letter, but I never did mail that one off. So question. Kind of a kind of a twisted mess, but
[01:41:09] Unknown:
go for it.
[01:41:11] Unknown:
Does your identity, confer a jurisdiction or no jurisdiction?
[01:41:19] Unknown:
And what does that mean? What do you mean? Question.
[01:41:24] Unknown:
Does your ID give them jurisdiction or no jurisdiction?
[01:41:32] Unknown:
Which ID are you talking about?
[01:41:36] Unknown:
The one you handed to the officer.
[01:41:41] Unknown:
Which one? Are you the driver's license or the passport? Doesn't say anything on it.
[01:41:47] Unknown:
It doesn't say well, let me look. I'll I'll tell you.
[01:41:54] Unknown:
I think the passport card removes jurisdiction, and that's four digitized through your declaration.
[01:42:01] Unknown:
Yes. It does not it's the first one. Not detain and assist in their travels if they need it.
[01:42:09] Unknown:
Yes. And that's why I brought the word identity.
[01:42:17] Unknown:
No. I gotta apologize. I wasn't gonna bring this up because I know Roger's not keen on talking about it much, so I wasn't gonna bring it up. Sheldon, you you wanted to, and
[01:42:27] Unknown:
I'm grateful. Well, I mean, it sounds like some sort of a success story. What I object to is getting into these long traffic decisions and discussions with all these different things on a situation that we cannot definitively decide how they're gonna rule. I can tell you just about every time with no exceptions how the feds are gonna handle it, but I don't can't handle this county to county jurisdictional thing. That that's my big problem with it. And we're not here about driver's licensing and driving. We're here about freeing you from the Federal's beef system. That's what we're here for. And I agree.
[01:43:09] Unknown:
I think I think this conversation is more an after hours conversation. I know Mike from Georgia has a couple very interesting pullovers lately with his ID and a non registered vehicle that he's recently bought that has out of state plates and that don't belong to him, essentially. But it's all after hours.
[01:43:34] Unknown:
May I I have a question, and it comes back to person. If you're operating in commerce, they do have jurisdiction.
[01:43:46] Unknown:
Correct.
[01:43:48] Unknown:
If you're one of the people, they do not.
[01:43:52] Unknown:
Well, let's again, you wanna split hairs. Let's say this. They may have subject matter jurisdiction. That court has control and jurisdiction over the roads in the county, but they don't have jurisdiction personum over you using it in that situation. So there's another hair splitting deal. There's two types of jurisdiction, subject matter and personum.
[01:44:18] Unknown:
Yes. But what I said But you have to,
[01:44:23] Unknown:
make them distinguish between the two, and that's the difficulty
[01:44:29] Unknown:
we are having. Well, you well, you do by bringing up the other one and taking it away from them. You may have subject matter jurisdiction, but you don't have personas, and here's the proof that you don't. Bam. You know, with the affidavit. So that's just the course I'd suggest you take.
[01:44:46] Unknown:
So Brandon j Williams,
[01:44:48] Unknown:
who is also in the same movement, has done a couple interviews lately. One of them was with a court clerk, an active court clerk, and another one with, the most recent one was with a active police officer. And the police officer is now interestingly enough, he's he's a national. And they've discussed they've discussed him I mean, everything from him getting a job as a police officer officer as a national, which they cleared up because that was an interesting thing. But he he says, I wasn't a national when I got the job, but became national. And he said, I saw nowhere in the guidelines that I have to be a US citizen once I was employed. And one of the things we talked about is the jurisdiction given to the state of the title when hand that title into the state, you essentially give that vehicle to the state. If you don't give that title to the state, it remains with you. And if you already have, you need to do and and they you know, this is just hearsay conversation. I haven't done it. I don't know.
But they talk about doing a deed and submitting that deed to the state saying that that vehicle is no longer theirs, and you're retaining that deed back in a quick claim deed is what they did. But The title the title to the car to it again to understand it.
[01:46:35] Unknown:
I think the title to the car is a manufacturer's statement of origin. And I don't know what they do with them when the, dealership gives it to them and gets a tag and a certificate of title. But that is the title of the car's manufacturer statement of origin. I think that was you talking. Right, Paul? I wanna hear about the COP that's in National. Where was that?
[01:47:02] Unknown:
So this is on Brandon Joe Williams, one of his podcast. I could probably pull it up here.
[01:47:11] Unknown:
Well, do you remember just offhand what part of the country he was in, or did they state that?
[01:47:18] Unknown:
He was in Florida. In Florida. Florida. I'll be darned.
[01:47:23] Unknown:
Alright. Yeah. That's interesting. That's the first time I heard of that. I like it more. The sheriff.
[01:47:28] Unknown:
Not just the sheriff hop in Tampa.
[01:47:31] Unknown:
He's a a regular Tampa Policeman? A sheriff's office as well? Sheriff's office. Yep. Okay. That's, what county is that down there, Tampa? Anybody know? Hillsdale or something? I'm not sure. Okay. Nobody knows. Alright. Well, that's just damned interesting is first I've heard. Yes. Is that Larry? Larry, you know something about this?
[01:48:02] Unknown:
No. No. I was just gonna say that Brandon Joe Williams, I'm pretty sure he's he's the guy with a filthy mouth. He just has no problem throwing the, the f bomb out there like every other word.
[01:48:13] Unknown:
Yeah. Well, that's not Roger? A good way to alienate peep some people. Yes?
[01:48:21] Unknown:
Yes. It's either Hillsdale or Gulf County.
[01:48:25] Unknown:
I bet you it's Hillsdale. I think Hillsdale's Tampa. I don't know what Saint Pete is, but, anyway, I'm just curious. So if he's a Hillsdale sheriff department officer, good on him. That county, Hillsdale, had one of those Soros DAs in it, and, DeSantis kicked him out of his job. I think he might have gotten it back on a court suit. I don't even know if any of y'all heard that or not yet. Those are couple of years ago. We could sure get rid of some of these Soros DAs and judges. Boy, that's a battle that's looming big time coming up.
[01:49:05] Unknown:
Hillsborough.
[01:49:07] Unknown:
Hillsborough. There's Bob. Thank you for correcting us, my friend.
[01:49:11] Unknown:
I thought you were in Michigan there for a minute.
[01:49:14] Unknown:
Well, I mean, I didn't know where I was. I was trying to be in Tampa. Yeah. But that's not unusual for me sometimes. I'm getting old now. On
[01:49:27] Unknown:
radio ranch chat.
[01:49:30] Unknown:
Okay. Thank you. Thank you. So, who's got anybody got any comments on that? You got any sheriffs in your, area who've become nationals? That'd be great. Man, we start we start to wave on that. That's a whole different story, isn't it?
[01:49:51] Unknown:
And, Rob, he's one that he's very smart, and is very interested in doing an interview with you. Just FYI. Who's that? And I Who's that? Brandon Joe Williams.
[01:50:05] Unknown:
Okay.
[01:50:07] Unknown:
Alright. Well done. Reach out. Joe Laska. Oh, okay.
[01:50:13] Unknown:
I got one of those people wrote me an email this morning. This guy's name was Jason. So, you know, we are spreading a little bit, not as quickly as any of us would like, but it's not our timeline. It's the good Lord's timeline, and I think we need to abide. So we'll try and
[01:50:32] Unknown:
friend Joe Williams. Friend Joe Williams has, like, 50,000 followers on Facebook. Yeah. So Okay. Are on YouTube.
[01:50:41] Unknown:
Yeah. So it might be worthwhile to I wonder how many how he's been able to keep that going over there with all if if he his language is bad and everything else over all their filters, but evidently, he has, so good on him. Yeah. Tell him to reach out if you're in contact with him.
[01:51:00] Unknown:
Yeah. And I I have.
[01:51:02] Unknown:
Alright. Good deal. So we got about ten minutes left. You can who can help? I can help. Is that that Billy Swan song? I heard, Paul play that six months ago. I can help. That's okay.
[01:51:18] Unknown:
Yep.
[01:51:19] Unknown:
I got your watcher.
[01:51:21] Unknown:
Alright. Now hold on. Now in all fairness Will I hear I put Dave for a moment? I put Dave on the back burner there and forgot about him. My apologies. So he's gonna take some precedence. Dave,
[01:51:35] Unknown:
go ahead. That's alright. Thanks, Roger. For Gary, I don't know if you're still on here, Gary, but, you know, doc would doc Wahlke would be mad at me if I didn't say this. So you're on some pretty heavy duty, antibiotics. And you know I don't you may or may not know, but it's killing everything in your gut. So Yep. Youngevity's got a product, Ultimate Microbiome, that rebuilds the gut. Okay? And so after you take maybe an hour or two after your antibiotics, you need to do a dose of the ultimate microbiome and then to rebuild your immune system. Your immune system starts in your bone marrow, and it's made out of collagen.
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[01:52:41] Unknown:
Alright. There you go. All that. I hope Gary and Jean I know Jean is taking good care of you.
[01:52:48] Unknown:
And you can always go back and listen to the replay in case you missed it. Is that Dan that's trying to say something right there? Dan. Yeah. And and it'll be super quick. I can vouch for Brandon Joe Williams. He shoots from the hip, and he's Okay. He's got a good following because he he helps people wake up to the fact that it's all messed up. And he did it with plenty of humor because he calls his website. I'm not even gonna say it on here. It's just it's just funny what what he does, and it attracts more people to get attention. You can say it on here. Yep.
[01:53:17] Unknown:
A one stupid spot. Stupid four letter f word.
[01:53:22] Unknown:
Okay. Yep. 1stupid.com. It's just and and he does swear too much. However, Cameron Wilson, who and Joe Lusticka and he were best friends. They're they're good friends. They're close friends. They they started the thing together before it got big and Brandon had to sort of branch off and do stuff. But they're actually real close friends. And then Cameron Wilson, who I'm on their Wyzedome with, we've created a group called the Wyzedome. Wyzedome. Right? Hundreds of us that are that are fighting in court. We're the ones that say, let's go to court. Let's go let's go on all these traffic things. His whole thing is traffic reform, and it's about freedom. And he was also saying that he told me he was like, damn, tell Roger that maybe if he could come and be a guest on our WyzeDome at some point. So I just texted him, hey. We're on now in case you can hop on. I put the message on the on the DeepScored service, so 300 people potentially will see that message. And,
[01:54:17] Unknown:
what do I do? Just have them email you and say, would you come on our Wednesday night show or our Saturday morning? Email me. Yeah. That's usually the way those contacts are initiated. You could do it over the air if he wants to come on, but,
[01:54:30] Unknown:
I'm It was late. I got I just Too hard about five minutes ago. I doubt. Yeah. It'll be on the call. But,
[01:54:37] Unknown:
yeah, I'm always open to talk our stuff to an audience. Might do what now? Absolutely.
[01:54:43] Unknown:
Which email and then I'll yield. They've all I've only got one. I forgot it. It's just you say it.
[01:54:52] Unknown:
Okay. Radioranch,nospace,@mail,mail,.com.
[01:54:59] Unknown:
Do we have a click through on the website to that, Paul? Got it. No. I got it. Okay. Just in the contact. I saved it. I Okay. Well, I was still I was sure Gmail.
[01:55:09] Unknown:
Okay. Yeah. Please don't send it to those bandits. That was my Paul, do we have a click through on that for get in touch with Garage on the website?
[01:55:19] Unknown:
No. We don't. I do believe your email address is up there, but we don't have, like, a A click. Well, if it's Click here. Then here. No. If it's up there, then then, you know, that'll suffice.
[01:55:31] Unknown:
Regardless, I can understand that the the, yes, Larry?
[01:55:36] Unknown:
Yeah. I'd like to, go back to this necessity defense because every time the whole driver's license thing comes up, inevitably the whole necessity defense comes into play. And I just want to read a couple of things that I researched. I don't agree that you can apply the necessity defense to a get to applying for a driver's license. So the whole key to the necessity defense is an actor did something that would be considered illegal in order to avoid a greater evil. There is nothing illegal about obtaining a driver's license. No one is forcing you to do it by obtaining it. Although one believes
[01:56:18] Unknown:
excuse me?
[01:56:19] Unknown:
It's voluntary.
[01:56:21] Unknown:
That's right. Although one believes there is the potential threat of being harmed or ticketed at a traffic stop, it is still not considered to be illegal. There are six elements that must be shown to have existed in order to make a necessity defense claim. Now here's the explanation in the law of what a necessity defense is. In criminal law, a necessity defense claims the actors illegal conduct was the necessary lesser of two evils in a situation threatening specific harm to the actor or others. According to California jury instructions, a successful necessity defense must prove six elements and all of these elements have to be present. Number one, the actor acted to prevent injury to the actor or someone else. Number two, the actor had no reasonable alternative.
Number three, the actor did not create greater danger than the danger avoided. Number four, the actor actually believed the illegal conduct was necessary to prevent the threatened harm or evil. Number five, a reasonable person would have also believed the illegal conduct was necessary in the circumstances. And finally, number six, the actor did not substantially contribute to the emergency
[01:57:53] Unknown:
by yield.
[01:57:56] Unknown:
Alright. And, Roger, if I may, real quick for Larry. Larry, have you seen any actors get killed on the side of the road for not having a driver's license? I yield.
[01:58:08] Unknown:
The the whole point heard about it. When I'm when I'm when I'm making the point on necessity, I'm seeing you're accepting it out of necessity. Whole different than me rejecting it. You're accepting it out of necessity. There's a difference there. Yeah. And it's not a modern a modern interpretation of what necessity is. It's an old con law. It's, you know I mean, Roger, have have you ever read, US eight eight US code section 15 o two? Do you have an opinion on it? I I I wouldn't know what if I if I read it, I wouldn't remember it. I I don't know. American national. I don't know. I'll sum it up for you. It basically says if you can prove you're an American national, they have to give you a certificate, and, specifically, trouble with the law and you need to prove it. Okay.
[01:59:07] Unknown:
No. I wasn't familiar with that.
[01:59:10] Unknown:
I have people say that if I were in a court to me a better way to go about
[01:59:14] Unknown:
it instead of going into these courts. You know, venue is also something that people are probably not familiar with your regional, meaning of venue, that was your neighborhood. If there were jurors, if there was, witnesses and stuff, that that were coming in there, they couldn't be from somewhere else. They had pretty much know you, know who you were and stuff. And Makes total sense to me.
[01:59:43] Unknown:
Yeah. Roger, didn't you say that as a national certificate I got it. For a national, but they don't anymore because of the cost of ink?
[01:59:52] Unknown:
Well, the now and paper. That's what they say in there. It wasn't I don't believe it was for us. I think it was for American Samoans.
[02:00:02] Unknown:
No. They they said that they don't issue certificates of noncitizen nationality because of ink and stuff. But if you do have a problem with the powers that be and you need the secretary of state to send, validation that you are a national to this specific agent, they will do that.
[02:00:25] Unknown:
I think that's part of their deal. They've got to if it's requested, like, in a court case or something. I don't know we've ever used it before. Yes, Martha?
[02:00:35] Unknown:
The code says the secretary of state is authorized to issue in his his discretion and in accordance to with rules and regulations prescribed by him, a certificate of nationality for any person not a naturalized citizen of The United States who presents satisfactory evidence that he is an American national and that the search certificate is needed for for use in judicial or administrative proceedings in a foreign state. Abram brought this up
[02:01:08] Unknown:
a while ago. It looks probably legitimate. C 15 o two. We get you we get you guys in one of these court cases you need to like, Mike Nail. This is something Mike Nail ought to bring under out out.
[02:01:21] Unknown:
I think we could use it now if we're getting harassed or trespassed on. I mean, I'm sure it's the answer.
[02:01:28] Unknown:
Mike Nail is probably the premier person I can think of. So, okay. Well, obviously, we're off the air. May I?
[02:01:36] Unknown:
Yes, ma'am. Sure. Mark, what you just stated is that you're leaving it to his discretion. And about the jury He's the lord of the matter.
[02:01:49] Unknown:
He's the lord of the matter. You can do that.
[02:01:52] Unknown:
Oh, Sherry,
[02:01:53] Unknown:
back now. Only upon please. Only upon your statement. I'm talking about the judges.
[02:02:01] Unknown:
Sure. You're you're twisting my words around. I was just No. That's
[02:02:10] Unknown:
Alright. Doing the secretary
[02:02:12] Unknown:
of state's office. It's Sherry, please. God. Question. Okay. Sherry, what do you want? Something and wedge it between your head and your phone? Sherry? Muder? Change your phone. I have my thumb there now. Does that help?
[02:02:28] Unknown:
Yeah. No. Your home phone your home phone doesn't do that. Change to the home phone.
[02:02:34] Unknown:
Muter.
[02:02:35] Unknown:
I'm not even I'm Oh, whatever. I'm going to eat lunch. I'm gonna let y'all hash
[02:02:40] Unknown:
hash this out. Roger, the the way I read 15 o two is his discretion means you have to prove it. So upon proof, he's supposed to issue that certificate.
[02:02:54] Unknown:
Alright. Well, that affidavit, send him another copy of the affidavit later on in that or or up there in the body of the letter. They say they don't do these anymore and to go get a passport. So, I don't know. I don't know if that overrides the statute or not. That might be their policy. I always thought it was exclusively for American Samoans, but you know what? I'm gonna let you guys hash it out.
[02:03:21] Unknown:
And just write it to you, Rogers, American National.
[02:03:25] Unknown:
I have a comment. Okay.
[02:03:27] Unknown:
I I Mark, I made a simple statement. I always thought that the certificate of noncitizen nationality was pretty much exclusively for the American Samoans because of the way it's worded and what it says. K? Right. Personally, that's what I always did. Okay? Yeah. And it may be that that it is in the statutes, but that policy statement overrides it with policy instead of law. I I don't know. I don't know. Yeah. K? Right. I'll see y'all tomorrow. Bye.
[02:04:05] Unknown:
Thank you, Roger. Is this better, people? And I call you people. It's not any better?
[02:04:14] Unknown:
Yes. Yes. It's better. But, I wanna, like, settle one thing. Just because, you're seeking a declaratory judgment from a judge certificate of non citizen nationality, you're not doing that, asking their permission to be a national. You are a national, period. What you're doing is you are asking them to keep their monkeys in line, to provide the proof and evidence that you need to keep their monkeys in line. The magistrates in Arkansas or Alabama that refused to accept an affidavit. Whoever. Whoever. What you're doing is you are just getting the documentation ahead of time to make sure that you've got something to feed somebody that thinks they're going to harvest you and stop them dead in their tracks.
[02:05:36] Unknown:
Look at it as a rubber stamp.
[02:05:41] Unknown:
Well, this begs the question. If they let's say you go through a common law default on them and, you turn that into a lease agreement where they're leasing your pull away or cease and desist, even from is sending your property tax bill. Why can't we turn that into a lease? This is what the IPIDE system is about And, you know, non proven territorial jurisdiction, so it's, like, jurisdiction over, yeah, over a national, you will you will, you'd be happy to, you know so you can provide the the claim that gives them, say, right to property tax or blah blah blah, then you will happy to do that. Then they don't do it by default. You then turn that into a lease agreement, and, they can they can cancel lease at any time. But by their silence, they back west to a contract just like they do with us in a yield.
[02:06:46] Unknown:
Mhmm. Don't you think that that's why they compartmentalize everything? Definitions for this code, definitions for that title. That way, they're never pinned in. And so do you have to, go to them and have them rubber stamp who you are, or is that done in one fell swoop with that affidavit, which I commend Roger, you know, seeing that in that application to leave the country, which is kind of odd, isn't it? If you're free, why do you have to ask permission for documentation? Other than that enables you to come back and be recognized?
[02:07:42] Unknown:
That begs the question. What if that certificate of nationality got sent? You had secretary say send that to your local county, where your tax bill is generated. Take it, send send it to your why not have them do all the administrative work? Why do we happen to send out copies of everything? You know? If if we're if they're trespassing on the status, and the status correction, you know, it's their job to administer their public service. So if they're if this is all federal territory that we're on, you know, and they're gonna they're gonna keep presuming that, why not have the secretary of state notice? I know it says in our affidavit that they should, you know, it serves as a permanent record.
But why not send them a demand to, you know, go tell on the mountain? Go make sure you proclaim us to everybody that my and you could put your Social Security number in there or whatever, you know, that this number, you know, touches so that it's all it's basically do not detain. It's basically do not tax any unapportion tax. Why isn't why why is it our why is it our job?
[02:09:00] Unknown:
Correct. And you know what I say? All these people involved in the court case subpoena the secretary of state and or the records I yield?
[02:09:13] Unknown:
The administrators should administrate their duties with clean hands, I yield.
[02:09:20] Unknown:
Fair enough. But let us start subpoenaing these people that have the answer, that have your affidavit on file.
[02:09:32] Unknown:
Yes. And I've heard that, Sherry. Yep. I've heard that. The attorney general and also the secretary of state. Yep. I've heard to do that. Hey. I'm not a party to this case, but I think, you know, the secretary of state probably and the attorney general probably have an interest here. Well, absolutely. Take it up with them. You know? Talk to the talk to the prostitute that way.
[02:09:54] Unknown:
Well, they have an authority over all things dealing with, citizenship status. So they have exculpatory evidence. Sabina.
[02:10:10] Unknown:
Does does Excuse me. Status
[02:10:17] Unknown:
relate to your identity, I yield.
[02:10:21] Unknown:
But because you've told them who you are, that's how they ID you. Gary? They're not recognizing it.
[02:10:31] Unknown:
Hello, Sketch. Could you put in the chat again that you put in yesterday about the VIN diagrams that where we can find those? Yes.
[02:10:45] Unknown:
I I just
[02:10:47] Unknown:
Yes. It's I just listened to the It's I just listened to the replay, so I wasn't able to get that. Thank you.
[02:10:55] Unknown:
Yes. I will. And it's it's pretty simple here. I put it in the chat today. I think it's either republican let me just see here. It's it's called dadarepublican.com, and I will put it in the chat again. Dadarepublican.com. And she's a savant, And they doxed her, and now she has to have protection because she is exposing the people, the individuals with identities, and they're pilfering and their drifting high yield. But I did want to say I wanted to say one question on the doctrine of necessity. There was a doctor in Australia who was providing providing gym pay a cannabis paste for autistic children and other people with cancer.
He used the the doctrine of necessity to repel, like, four or five felonies with, like, fifteen years in jail, and he won using the doctrine of necessity. I yield. Thank you so much.
[02:12:13] Unknown:
Do you know what doctor that's from, Sketch?
[02:12:16] Unknown:
I can find it for you, Julie. It's been a while, but, yes, I can.
[02:12:21] Unknown:
Because doctor Robert o Young is facing, I don't know, fifteen, thirty years in jail.
[02:12:27] Unknown:
You're in The US?
[02:12:29] Unknown:
Yeah. For what? For eating avocados? If
[02:12:33] Unknown:
you go to doctor Robert o Young's website, I think it's d r Robert Young, he's got extensive experience in micro microscopy and in natural healing and getting people he wrote the book, The PH Miracle. They arrested him again. So I think he's in San Francisco right now and they did not grant him bail. He's sitting behind bars. And these people were, like, stage four cancers. They charged him with practicing without a license.
[02:13:10] Unknown:
Wow. Gary, keep an eye on your email. I'm gonna I'm gonna send you, well, let's see. Is there a way that I can tell you this without getting locked up myself? I have I have heard, this is not, medical advice, and, this program is not intended to treat, diagnose, prevent, or cure any disease. But I have heard of successful use, with respect to infections of various kinds. Silver, colloidal silver, colloidal silver aloe gel, silver lawn cloth, chlorine diox. Do you know what I mean? I do believe that there's a book by Jim Humble. I don't have to tell you, you know, what he's talking about, but there's a book by Jim Humble. And if you were to Google Jim Humble, I'm sure that you would find out exactly what what he would suggest in that case.
But, there's there's a lot of, there's, actually, go to the go to docs dot expose the matrix and, look for the folder CDS. That's Charlie delta Sierra. Look in that folder, and you will find a lot of information that may be interesting. It may not be. But it's either way, it's a good way to kill an afternoon if you got nothing better to do. But I would suggest that it'd be more important than that. Okay? That that's all I can say without actually going to jail. So check that out.
[02:15:22] Unknown:
I have a question.
[02:15:26] Unknown:
Yeah.
[02:15:27] Unknown:
Who are we? And are we tired of doing the two step or sitting on the Doesn't matter. Offense or defense?
[02:15:37] Unknown:
And Well, we just talked about that before.
[02:15:40] Unknown:
Why do you fear them? I yield.
[02:15:43] Unknown:
We'd I don't fear them, but I'm not gonna poke the bear. I'm not gonna give them an opportunity to proceed on presumption and destroy my life just because they're gonna think that I am I have to defend myself. I just don't want I don't want that imperial entanglement. Okay? You know, I know they're bullshit. I know their their heads are so far up their butts that I should be able to shut them down very quickly, but we've got two examples of people that have, like, turned over the sum total of their entire lives for the last year at least just because they have some administrator that is proceeding on presumption and just making their life hell. I don't need that.
I don't fear them. I'm not giving them ammunition to think they have something on me.
[02:16:42] Unknown:
That's fair enough, Paul. But I will say this. Right now, you have the ability to choose what battlefield you are on. And if you don't stand up, it will become bloody a yield.
[02:17:01] Unknown:
Okay. Well, some of the some of the things that may or may not have been mentioned within the last thirty minutes on this program, could lead to, cures to incurable diseases. And I I know we're not even supposed to use the c word, but because I'm a national, I'm gonna use the c word. But, the complete eliminations of certain certain things that they say is fixable, ineliminatable. Okay? Certain things they say, yo, once you got this, you're gonna have it for the rest of your life, albeit how short it's gonna be. Okay? And that is what they're going after Robert Young for, because he is for because he is doing that c word to things that they, have a whole financial interest in seeing no alternative treatments.
So I don't know. I don't want the whole of FDA and the whole freaking, pharmaceutical industry on my ass at this particular juncture. I can think of better things to do with my time.
[02:18:15] Unknown:
Well, I don't think Doctor precedes you, your name. And Robert Young, as a doctor, has to proceed under their operation of law. So, yes, maybe he is in a pickle.
[02:18:31] Unknown:
Okay. He was a doctor. He was a doctor, but he either had his license revoked for speaking out against allopathic medicine or he voluntarily surrendered it. Otherwise, their charges of practicing medicine without a license wouldn't hold water.
[02:19:00] Unknown:
I just wanted to throw in here, like, it's one thing if they're writing a document and they wanna use, say, terms like person, which are ambiguous as can be. It's thrown all over the place in the constitution, and they don't spell out what it means in this different articles, etcetera. When you're writing your document, why would you use a term that's so loose? You should say that you're a man or a woman. I mean, how simple can that get? It's not their document, it's yours, and you're either a man or a woman. I just don't get why there would be an argument about that.
[02:19:42] Unknown:
Right. That's that's why I brought up the word identity. Identify as a turtle on a post. I'm a terrapin. I yield.
[02:19:57] Unknown:
Pronouns only.
[02:20:01] Unknown:
Yeah. That's gotten us Not now. Quite nicely in trouble.
[02:20:05] Unknown:
I was being facetious.
[02:20:08] Unknown:
Sixty million babies are dead because of that word. I'd avoid it.
[02:20:28] Unknown:
Well, say Yeah. My job is that. Go ahead. Hope you, appreciated my conversation about identity because, you know, I just I don't think person and identity are the same words, but, yeah, identity identifies the person. So that's why I was bringing it up by you.
[02:20:57] Unknown:
Yeah. Well, C sketch, that's where you're going back to man's words. If you use and it's still man's word that read the scripture. But person, identity, those are all men describing how the people shall be controlled. So I disagree with you. We should not use their language.
[02:21:34] Unknown:
Man's language? Okay. I'll try that.
[02:21:44] Unknown:
Men who are trying to impose their will on you, that's whose language you should avoid. I yield.
[02:21:53] Unknown:
Well, all men are sinners, so, good luck.
[02:22:00] Unknown:
That's why he adhere to the scripture. He does not lie to you, and he has no sin within him.
[02:22:13] Unknown:
Yes, Sketch. I I I appreciate that. I, I I'm just distracted right now. I'm looking at my car because I put my truck because I think I got a head gasket leak, and I'm trying to decide whether, just do it with mechanic in the can because I really don't wanna take the head off.
[02:22:32] Unknown:
Well, maybe I hope your Unimog has a winch. You can raise that thing up.
[02:22:37] Unknown:
Unimog just sits on the property. I only use it around here. You know? I don't this is what I use for work and stuff. So but yes. I mean, I'm not trying to make anything complicated in my life, and I just think if you enter into terms, which are really used to hurt us, person was used to hurt us, we shouldn't use it. And when it comes to venue, you know, I that means your neighborhood, and I I don't think these courts are our neighborhood. I think that's Satan's neighborhood. I really don't wanna go there. So I think if we can keep it to people who also might understand. I don't think the courts understand much at that lower level.
I think that if you go you're going to your state attorney general or or what have you, there maybe there's better places to go. But whoever's the highest authority has the research ability to take a look at your argument. And if you state your argument with a time clause that they have to respond and if they don't respond, they're in agreement, then I think then you're set up to be able to obeyed it much better. And that's sort of how I look at the whole thing. I I again, the basement's outside of outside of the court, the non statutory abatement. And that's just how I'm looking, like, for myself. I'm not saying that anybody has to understand or to or agree with me. I just, it's just my feeling right now from what I've seen so far. And then aligning yourself with your creator is where I want my allegiance first, and they need to know that.
And as long as the state's not breaking God's laws, I can go along with the state. You know? But those are the kinds of things I wanna tell them in my notice. And, you know, it's pretty simple stuff, really.
[02:24:35] Unknown:
Yep. It sure is. And, the the reason I brought up I mean, I I might have butted heads with Mark on the all caps and the name, but I I'm I'm not going to the name. I'm going to the identity. Now the all caps name is an is an identity. So is your Christian name. That's a different identity. And that's the only reason I was bringing up the word identity today because there's some obfuscation or some confusion between the two. And I was trying to noodle it out with Roger, and, I hope it helped everybody because I that's all I was trying to do. I wasn't trying to upset him at all, I yield. You know, every everybody says, you know,
[02:25:28] Unknown:
Satan is the great deceiver or copier, and, I think I'll go even a little further. I think that upper case name is Satan's representation of you without the soul, without the flesh, without the blood, and that's why you need to be using that Christian name.
[02:25:51] Unknown:
I concur. I agree. And, Julie, I don't know if you're there, but I did put a Yandex leak with the search term Australian cannabis doctor uses the doctrine of necessity to defend charges. And his his information came up. I yield. Thank you. Thank you. And if by any chance you get to a video of his interview of him, he makes a very profound statement. He says, man has all these big, big ideas, but our brains are so small, we cannot solve those problems that we create. I yield.
[02:26:45] Unknown:
Well, the the doctrine of necessity and the maxim for it is necessity knows no law.
[02:26:56] Unknown:
Well, I think that the HotDoc's, argument using the necessity was something like this. Your laws are preventing me from helping young children. I have proven that I am helping them. That is why I'm breaking your that is why it's a necessity for me to break your laws because your laws are unjust.
[02:27:19] Unknown:
And he would be protected under God's law for doing so.
[02:27:23] Unknown:
Yes.
[02:27:26] Unknown:
Amen.
[02:27:36] Unknown:
And we've had I'm a change the subject. Sorry. Yesterday, Roger brought up the secret computers that are printing money out of thread thin air. I thought that was I read a little bit of the article today. I was like, oh, so they actually do print money out of thin air, and it has nothing to do with the bonds, I yield.
[02:28:01] Unknown:
Right.
[02:28:07] Unknown:
Samuel, could I ask you about, your use of postal orders? If you have a where in Stanford or other work that you found that that is treasury money as opposed to a reserve amount. I've heard the same, but I don't know where I can't remember where the site form was. The nature of my question to Samuel was, if it's true that postal money orders are the lawful money still,
[02:29:26] Unknown:
gold and silver. Does that mean that as a national,
[02:29:32] Unknown:
we can't instruct Treasury to convert any of our Federal Reserve notes, currencies and all that jazz back to gold and silver. We can't do that because there is a remedy. We just go down to the Federal Post Office and get a federal money order And that would be the remedy I yield.
[02:30:06] Unknown:
Yeah. And another thing I'd like to mention is is, you know, Gaius might have been great for the Caesars, but, you know, this is when he was he was coming up with the law and the law of persons of free men and slaves and the patricians. But it was right in the middle of the Caesars. They were already in a dictatorship. And if you read the book of the hundreds, they say this is exactly what Lincoln did. He took us from common law into Roman military law, and it's pretty you know, the Romans have always been military law. I mean, really, it's it's like when Constantine became empire, they went from three hundred years of of killing Christians to now if you're not a Christian, we're gonna kill you.
So if if you want that kind of law, I guess, you know, just ask Lincoln how well it worked. I mean, he, that's what he did. I think we've he suffered from it. So
[02:31:15] Unknown:
Well, I think we should change the name from Caesar to Dickus Dickus, I yield.
[02:31:28] Unknown:
Yeah. There there's so much about history that we god. I thought I knew history until you really start I've been really doing a lot more deep digging into the bible and what the times were like and this and that at different stages, even the old testament to try to understand the circumstances and why they were writing the way they were writing and, you know, what the translations really are, what things are allegories that we we just accept as being what they said they were. It it's amazing. I mean, there's a there's there's a a piece that doesn't have a lot of way to really determine what it meant, but there are pieces to it that you can sort of try to figure out what it but it's Exodus four twenty four through 26.
God has just after Moses was a meeting, he's on his way over to, Egypt. The line just before 24 is how God's telling Moses, well, you're you're gonna confront Pharaoh. Pharaoh, I'm gonna harden his heart. He's gonna reject you, and you and you're gonna end up killing his firstborn son. The next sentence, 24, God's angry with Moses and ready to kill him. And his wife, Zipporah, grabs a flint knife, cuts off the, there's a circumcision on on Gershom, her son, Moses' son, and throws it at Moses' feet. And then God lets him alone, and that's all it really says. Now why would God do that? Why would God pick Moses? It's been eighty years to get him to this point and then be ready to kill him.
And you you start looking doing the research on this, there's all kinds of hidden things here. First off, there's the the feet was a polite way of of saying genitals because, you know, it's just like in in Genesis when they're talking about sexual relationship, they call it knowing each other. Well, they do that in the bible all over the place when it comes to, touchy subjects like that. So first off, she if it's correct and the translation is true, then the feet were actually Moses's genitals. So she bloodied his genitals. And you and then there's other people who are looking at, well, listen. If you look at when Moses was born, his mother was was probably trying to make him acceptable to the Egyptians, so he probably didn't get circumcised. Right? And then she put him in the basket, put him on down the thing, but when he's found, she recognizes that it's a Hebrew boy. I mean but maybe he wasn't circumcised.
Then it gets even deeper because they the Egyptians circumcised as well, especially in the higher ranks, which he would have been. But they split the foreskin. They didn't cut it all off. So it starts to when you start looking at all the possibilities of about a couple of verses, you know, I I spent hours on looking into that and you start to get a different picture of what was really going on here. Not not to mention that God was in a hurry to get Moses to Egypt because he was dragging his feet. And if he would have would have circumcised him then and there, he probably would have been laid up for a while.
[02:35:27] Unknown:
So, anyway, it's just
[02:35:29] Unknown:
you know, we believe things that we've always been told it's a certain way, and, we're at a at a time now when there's so much more available to us research wise and stuff. And, like, I I was thinking about that 80,000 pages. Well, somebody could easily now feed that through, ChatGPT and say give me a synopsis for every 500 pages. You know? May I break How long would that take?
[02:36:02] Unknown:
Breaking news.
[02:36:04] Unknown:
Breaking news. Active shooter reported at the CIA headquarters in Langley, Virginia.
[02:36:10] Unknown:
False flag. False flag.
[02:36:12] Unknown:
False flag. Yep. It's on text. I'll post it in the, link so people, if they wanna see the live video, they can. Oh, I can't wait.
[02:36:24] Unknown:
Samuel Samuel, I think the conversation and I have a question. I've been speaking to your conference on certain decision. But, does it have to do with the, well, let's just I'm gonna I'm gonna give you a different example. Shooter. Active shooter. Okay. Thank you. Active shooter. Yeah. Yeah. Samuel, I'm gonna bring up, the topic of female circumcision in in Africa, and that has to do a lot with power. So does the circumcision that you're talking about have to do with power? And I would say yes. Do you disagree?
[02:37:15] Unknown:
Well, that was all about God's covenant. Now how my mom figured out as a Catholic that I needed this, procedure is beyond me. But then again, there's that joke. You know, what's the difference between a Catholic and a Lutheran? A Lutheran reads the Bible from the beginning to the end.
[02:37:36] Unknown:
Okay. So let me rephrase my question. Is the covenant about power? Sure.
[02:37:45] Unknown:
Okay. God's power and God and your and your loving allegiance with your creator.
[02:37:51] Unknown:
Thank you. And coming on on the CA, well, they don't have guns, do they? Oh my god. They can't defend themselves. We need more government.
[02:38:21] Unknown:
I have a question that you know, I don't think Carl is still on here. But, did y'all did anybody hear him say, that that passport card that he used to give the policeman when he got pulled over, it it that passport card had been obtained obtained by him with his affidavit? Yes. I can. Oh, okay. Okay. Thank you.
[02:38:49] Unknown:
Yeah. I'm I'm back on for a few minutes. Sorry. I had to go. Yes. I've got my my passport obtained with my affidavit, and I've got a letter sent to the secretary of state, doing a personal FOIA request to verify that I am listed as a national. I'm waiting for that to come through also.
[02:39:15] Unknown:
Okay. Great. Thank you.
[02:39:22] Unknown:
May I? This is Eva. I had a question about finding out about my status as the endorsement, the o six that I got before I even sent my affidavit. So is that how I would get more information as to why I'm a diplomatic courier?
[02:39:49] Unknown:
Yeah. You'd have to send a request on that, just a personal request, for you. And I'm for you. And I do know I don't trust those numbers. Mine is listed as a, I think, 12, if I recall, which has nothing to do with the, you know, it expires when I turn 18. I'm well over 18 years old. So Okay. I didn't know if I put
[02:40:24] Unknown:
significance on this at all or just try to find out some information or just resubmit, with the DS 80 2 and just see what happens.
[02:40:37] Unknown:
Eva, I will say this. There was someone that came on, called the secretary of state, and he asked them all about the numbers. And then I think, George forty four said it's classified. They won't tell you what they mean.
[02:40:57] Unknown:
And, also,
[02:41:00] Unknown:
there is a, I forget, there's a link from the state department explaining all the codes supposedly. And, I think it's on the ESDM site. I forget what it's called, but somebody might be able to recall. Also, the person that called, the secretary of state office or the state department, and he hung up and he said, well, you know, he told them, I think, as long as you have my affidavit, I don't care what numbers are on there. So, you know, you can worry about being as five stars belly snake if you want, but,
[02:41:41] Unknown:
I'm not worrying about it. I don't think either should you. You're wasting your time. I yield. Yeah. That's what I wanna know. Just don't even worry about it. That's what I'm thinking. Just send it in with my status correction and my affidavit.
[02:41:58] Unknown:
I agree.
[02:42:00] Unknown:
Okay.
[02:42:03] Unknown:
But I'm a one star, at least I mean, if you wanna know.
[02:42:08] Unknown:
May I? I'm a I'm a three star.
[02:42:11] Unknown:
Go ahead. Hey, Eva. It's Eva. Right? Yes. Yeah. It might be. I don't know. It could be connected to your individual master file that's over at the IRS. I'm not sure, but I have a friend who had all those numbers decoded. There's some place online where you can get the individual mass those numbers uncoded, and they had him listed as a commercial driver of mail out of the Virgin Islands. And, of course, he's never been a commercial driver, but a commercial driver of mail. So I don't know if that's possibly it could be tied to your IRS number, but I'm not sure. I'm just thinking out loud, brainstorming. Thank you. Okay. Thank you. Which seems since you you Julie, you brought that information.
[02:42:58] Unknown:
Seems like I missed, a a a a, example of stolen identity.
[02:43:05] Unknown:
Yeah.
[02:43:07] Unknown:
If I may.
[02:43:08] Unknown:
Mhmm.
[02:43:10] Unknown:
Absolutely. That's exactly what it is. Stolen identity, a %. And then, and then renamed, stolen property so that you can't find it.
[02:43:22] Unknown:
So is that the same as stolen personhood?
[02:43:25] Unknown:
Yep. I think so. Just
[02:43:28] Unknown:
asking for an identity freak.
[02:43:33] Unknown:
I'd like to comment on those stars. You know, the sheets of plastic that they punch those cards out of, I don't think they're I think the stars are random on the plastic and, you know, you get what you get, whatever they punch out that card. I'm not sure about the codes and all that. You know, that I don't is that on you know, the breakdown of the codes? Is that found on the Department of State website, or did somebody come up with that on another website? I yes.
[02:44:07] Unknown:
I think it's EEDSM. Alright. I'm not maybe saying saying it right, but, It's FAM,
[02:44:16] Unknown:
endorsement. You put in FAMF As In Frank, A As In Apple, M As In Mary. I'm trying to find it right now because Sheldon is the one that told me about it and I had oops. I didn't mean to do that. Coercive control. Funny. Go away. Where is it? Well, anyway, Sheldon has it. And I had just learned of it a couple days ago. So if I could, yeah, maybe find how do you get your master file from the IRS?
[02:44:53] Unknown:
I would Google that. I would just say, it's called an individual master file. Okay. And isn't it funny that IMF is the same thing as the International Monetary Fund, which is the collector for all this stuff? I just know that I have a friend who, went to court and lost. He wasn't a national at all and he didn't know how. He didn't have he hired an attorney and he lost his case, but they did dissect his master file. And I know there's websites out there, and I don't know how reliable they are, but the one that he told me about a long time ago seemed to be pretty reliable from what I had seen. It was pretty reliable and it had good reviews. But I think that Roger told us not to worry about that stuff. We won't disclaim our status. That is our status and it doesn't matter what they have us listed Right. They can do whatever they want to, but we are nationals. Yeah. So it's it's probably random and just goofy and nothing's connected.
Well, no. I think that I don't know. I think they have you and me. Everybody who's born here with our birth certificates when we when they put those in the warehouse, I think what Sketch said is they reclassify us into a commercial, UCC codes or whatever so that they can so that every time we step into a courtroom, we contract with them and that goes back to the straw man. That goes all the way back to the straw man, stuff are all caps named. Okay. So I could be wrong. I could be wrong, but I really think we are the debtors and the creditors. I think our all caps straw man name, we're the debtor and our, regular name, we're the creditor that they're trading our labor on the market or they're using our labor and taxing us for the for that portion.
So but I I don't I don't haven't figured out that those puzzle pieces yet.
[02:46:55] Unknown:
Well, I'd like to volunteer since I'm at the stage now. On Monday, I became a national according to, you know, the mail being delivered. And so, you know, fixing to get ready to send notices, but I like this idea of contacting the secretary of state and getting a certificate and then attaching that to my notices plus a cover letter educating them. Is there anybody that would be willing to work together? And I have studied equity before with clean hands and good faith, you know, saying it in in, like, a prayer is what I was taught, in the name of my most high.
And it seemed very powerful. I've had success a couple times with that.
[02:47:54] Unknown:
I will work with you. Okay. I I I don't, what was I gonna say? I haven't done my passport yet, but I Oh. Need my citizen you know, my affidavit of citizenship evidence. I just haven't gotten around to doing my passport yet because, I am going to I have an existing passport, that I may need to use, And I don't wanna I don't wanna I just don't wanna monkey around with it yet. I've got some time. So I wanna just use the one I have right now and then, you know, deal with that afterwards because I really honestly don't have any intentions of traveling.
[02:48:32] Unknown:
Yeah. But isn't it important to I mean, isn't that Rogers like second step where we cement this in or you don't?
[02:48:42] Unknown:
Your letter that you send to the secretary of state and all the letters that you copy for the various officials in the state, that makes you a national. You're that has nothing to do with your passport. It's just, you know yep. You are So I could just even let it ride and not even do the passport? Yeah. You're you're a national
[02:49:02] Unknown:
Okay. So then I could just start noticing.
[02:49:05] Unknown:
Yeah. You you don't even have to do your passport. Just start noticing all these. I did them all at once. I didn't even wait.
[02:49:11] Unknown:
Promise.
[02:49:13] Unknown:
And your and your and your status becomes status the day that you mail it, not the day it was received. Oh, okay.
[02:49:21] Unknown:
Oh, I thought it was when they received it. Nope. I thought that when you mail it. Oh, okay. Well, that's good.
[02:49:28] Unknown:
Joe, I'm asking you.
[02:49:30] Unknown:
What'd you say?
[02:49:32] Unknown:
I'm asking you for Joe. Hey, on your timing as far as doing a passport or not and letting it ride, If you don't this this is Carl, and this is the issue I had is I got pulled over the day I received the passport, yet I hadn't yet received it because it was in the mailbox. They will not When you get pulled over, you're forced into giving that driver's license. They will not accept you as a national without it unless you fight in court and go to the next level. But in court, they would I would strongly say they will not accept it. You can you can try with with, you know, writing becoming a paper tiger and writing notices to the court, but the judge likely will not read those notices.
And so you'll end up with, like I did, a warrant because the judge decided not to read your papers. So that's why you wanna get your passport ASAP. Yeah. Now with Julie get yeah. Julie said she didn't wanna mess with her passport. You don't have to you don't have to send in your passport. You just have to send them your passport card when you're doing the update because it's the passport card that gets changed. The passport itself, they just they edit on the backside of the computer.
[02:51:12] Unknown:
So I could potentially still travel because I'll have my passport. I'm just with that with that 82,
[02:51:21] Unknown:
I just send the card because I didn't even read through it yet. Oh, perfect. Yes. Okay. And you can call and ask you can call and ask and verify to make sure I'm telling you correctly, but I'm pretty sure that is the case. And when you do just the card
[02:51:35] Unknown:
Hey, Carl.
[02:51:37] Unknown:
Is $30.40 dollars versus the $280.
[02:51:41] Unknown:
Okay. Yep. Yeah, Julie. Hey, Carl. Yeah. So I don't, my passport is about to expire, and it's ten years old. Can I just order a passport card since my passport I have right now is still active, and they'll send it to me?
[02:51:56] Unknown:
Yep. I don't see why not, but your passport itself will still expire unless you get a new passport. Yeah. You have to get get yeah. You have to renew.
[02:52:09] Unknown:
But if it's active right now and it's not expired, I just can't call and say, hey. I have, like, a card to go along with my passport?
[02:52:15] Unknown:
You absolutely get it. To wait. It seems like No. You you could do that. The money. The difference between the passport and passport card, the passport will only work if you're traveling to cap Canada or Mexico, and you can use it within The United States. But the passport booklet will get you anywhere in the world.
[02:52:37] Unknown:
Right. So if I just tell I I mean, my like I said, I have the whole entire passport, booklet. So if I want and I never got one of those cards, I can just say, hey. It's still active right now. I'd like a card to go along with my existing active book booklet. Is that something I can still do? Yes, Julie. Just pull out your d s what is it? 80 2 or 11, the one that's just a renewal,
[02:53:03] Unknown:
and renew your. And on the checkbox on the top, you just put passport card is the one you want renewed. Yeah. But I I'm talking about not renewing.
[02:53:12] Unknown:
I'm not I'm not talking about renew yeah. Go ahead.
[02:53:15] Unknown:
What I what I'm gonna say is they require your current pass port book to get the card. You have to submit that.
[02:53:27] Unknown:
That's what I figured. Recorded.
[02:53:29] Unknown:
Yep.
[02:53:31] Unknown:
But still I'm not gonna do that. Directly.
[02:53:34] Unknown:
And May I ask? No. I don't know how much time that will take. I would say with the postal service, couple weeks maybe. So make sure you keep a copy for your records before you send it off to them. I yield.
[02:53:52] Unknown:
May I? I just wanted to say that somebody the the best put in the chat, sole proprietorship equals straw man. I just wanted to put that out. Thank you.
[02:54:11] Unknown:
Yeah. I just write that in the chat for you guys.
[02:54:15] Unknown:
I don't know. Isn't that an ID sketch? I yield.
[02:54:22] Unknown:
Well, this is sketch in all caps, and the all caps does not confer jurisdiction, but it does confer identity. And in return, I think it confers jurisdiction, ideal.
[02:54:41] Unknown:
Which came first? Identity or jurisdiction? I'm curious.
[02:55:00] Unknown:
You should always get a passport card because you can be as free as you think you are, and you can put people on notice. You can come up with a laundry list five pages long of weaponization your position. But when there is a knock on your window, he wants there, then and now. And that's why you have the card, so you can time after time like Carla and I have done and then the passport is for the jurisdiction of the rest of the planet. You've got to have a card and they're only $30 there's no reason not to have one. And if you go the distance of that, which is very short, you got to make copies, about six of them. I'm
[02:55:50] Unknown:
done. May I Thank you. And I I'm just gonna speak to my situation, which was I had gotten a passport book because I was traveling abroad in two thousand and five. And so when I heard about Rogers' information about the affidavit and applying for your passport, couple of years ago, I had it for my birth certificate. I knew I had two copies somewhere. Couldn't find it. But I have my passport book, which was valid ID to renew it. And it was it within the ten year of expiration, so I went with the passport book. Now what I have found since then, it gives me the ability to refine my affidavit.
So I haven't done that yet, but there's something to be said for one or the other. But I had to go with the passport book because that's what I had at hand to identify myself with, you know, the lord of the manor. I do.
[02:57:20] Unknown:
May I? I'll take silence Dean's consent. Okay. So this is Nancy from Virginia again. I just finished, at the DMV. They would not let me sign there with t d c on my on the on the electronic thing. And, I had, put it on my signature on the hard copy that I brought with me. So I don't know what they did to that afterwards, but I asked for documentation of why they were refusing me to, not allowing me to sign. And they asked me what it meant, what it stood for, the TDC. I said threat, duress, coercion, but it's basically a reservation of our rights. So I'll just, because I've, I just let them know that I handle it administratively.
[02:58:17] Unknown:
So
[02:58:18] Unknown:
fancy. You operate in commerce. Oh, I know. It's not it's not under threat duress and coercion then. Now reservation of your rights is totally different.
[02:58:32] Unknown:
Oh, okay.
[02:58:34] Unknown:
Yeah. Well, thank you.
[02:58:37] Unknown:
That would distinguish between the two operations of law. One in commerce, that license is required.
[02:58:48] Unknown:
And now the question is the question is, will they let you sign with that,
[02:58:54] Unknown:
reservation of rights? I don't think they will, but you could try. No. I they didn't do it. They would I did it one year, and four years later when I renewed, they would not allow me to sign all rights reserved with without prejudice.
[02:59:10] Unknown:
What about UCC one dash three zero eight? Would they let you sign with that?
[02:59:15] Unknown:
I didn't try that. I I just they refused. They said your name only. And I there were, like, people breathing down my neck. They said They won't let you add anything to it.
[02:59:28] Unknown:
Nope. K. The manager, I asked him for documentation of the reason why they were not allowing me to sign that way. And they cited a code, and they basically said in the in the comment that, it was not under, UCC.
[02:59:47] Unknown:
Well, I will point out that it's involuntary servitude.
[02:59:52] Unknown:
You're both saying They refuse
[02:59:54] Unknown:
if they refuse No. This is voluntary. With all reservations of rights, I yield.
[03:00:02] Unknown:
Wow. That is know what It
[03:00:05] Unknown:
May I state what I find interesting is what you just said, Nancy, Please repeat it because it escapes me now, about, what their code said. Please repeat that.
[03:00:21] Unknown:
Well, the email that he showed me, the man assistant manager, because I asked for documentation, and I wrote down the code. But I read what it said on the email that, it this the DMV services or whatever, it doesn't basically, what we're doing there doesn't fall under the UCC. So it doesn't apply to do things like TDC or ARR. And thanks for the distinction, Sherry, between ARR and TDC. But as you've heard, they they're not allowing that either. And I I just made a comment to the people at the desk. So it's interesting that, this is a contract and that, the state is trying to dictate how I sign my name or how I enter into contract.
So, but I'm just gonna attack you know, send in my affidavit, and I'll I'll comment this. I have the assistant manager's name and just reassert reaffirm my rights, reservation of rights even though I'm entering it in
[03:01:31] Unknown:
entering into it because I drive commercially. So I yeah. Correct. That's the question. And that's the whole purpose
[03:01:38] Unknown:
of that license
[03:01:40] Unknown:
is for commerce. So you I understand. Asserting yourself as a national has no bearing whatsoever in that
[03:01:50] Unknown:
regard. Well, actually, I I I think that in entering into any contract, I can reserve my rights.
[03:01:58] Unknown:
Yes. Question. No. I'm dismissed.
[03:02:01] Unknown:
Question. The the the license is voluntary. Okay? But when they put the stipulation that you cannot sign it the way you want, it becomes involuntary. I yield.
[03:02:15] Unknown:
That's a good point. Thank you. Yes. Nancy. Yeah.
[03:02:20] Unknown:
This is Larry. So you can't sign a TDC because you're not being forced to get that license. Right. You you are volunteering to get that license so you can operate in commerce. So if you're stopped by an officer and you're not in commerce, you use your passport card to identify yourself. And when you are in commerce, you are obligated to avail the traffic laws. And so that's the reason why they're not allowing you to put TDC because they're not forcing you under threat, duress, and coercion to get that license. Did you hear what I read today on the show about the necessity defense? I don't think it's applicable. And so this kind of parallels that whole idea.
Just something to think about. Because I'm in commerce. I have a class A license. I've had it for twenty seven years. And, you know, I just use it, you know, for when I'm driving around in the private also. So I don't have any issue. I don't have a dog in the fight. I drive carefully when I'm in my private vehicle, which has state tags on it. And that that's that's what I've decided to do. You know? So
[03:03:45] Unknown:
I appreciate that. Said, Larry.
[03:03:48] Unknown:
Yeah. That's, that's exactly yeah. You can choose to be in commerce or you can choose to be without. However, once you're using their their, jurisdictions, you, you know, you're voluntary. And that and that's what Samuel has explained about Terry Lee. Terry Lee actually went and said they won't give me a driver's license with my Christian name. Therefore, turn it back to them. Okay. I tried to get a driver's license. He documented it all, and they wouldn't give me one in my Christian name. Therefore, now the sheriff will call him and say, hey. Did my I heard my deputy stop you today. Did they give you a hard time? No. No. They're very gentlemanly because he's got everybody on notice, you know, about how he did. They did. He wasn't he wasn't not trying to kind of obey their law or whatever, their commercial law, but they just wouldn't give him what he needed in his Christian name. So that's one way to do it. The other way to do it is to handle it commercially, send in your birth certificate or whatever. If they give you a fine, settle up with treasury, bada bing bada boom, do the UCC method, you know, a yield.
[03:04:51] Unknown:
It's in my recollection that Terry Lee, got in at the moment. They were changing over systems, and he did get his document in upper and lower case. Correct me if I'm wrong, Sheldon.
[03:05:10] Unknown:
No. He did. That's right. And on a more rudimentary attack on this, still gonna kinda stay on the subject. When you try to do something with driver's license, you're going to do the same thing with a passport card or passport. A lot of people go into the post office and they get on their high heels and the the the passport people, the postal workers, and say, oh, we can't do that. We can't attach this. Well, the same thing happens when you're doing your driver's license if you wanna put down threat, duress, coercion is when they say no, you go to another building.
When your post office refuses to put your declaration in there, which they, by law, cannot do, you go to another post office. And if you still wanna do what you wanna do and you can't do, you find another venue to do what you wanna do in. But on the back of what Larry said, yes, you can't use your national to do anything that's when you're employed or you're in their sandbox with commerce, you've sealed the deal. You're already under their jurisdiction. There's nothing you can do to get out of it except walk out of the truck and walk home. I'm done.
[03:06:27] Unknown:
Question, is it appropriate to to to when they refuse you signing this, document the way you want, is it appropriate to ask them, are you a lawyer and are you giving me legal advice?
[03:06:43] Unknown:
I think the next step in your administrative appeal would be ask for the supervisor, and then go to his supervisor. And then you're gonna have to look this up as far as the postal thing goes. I don't know about the driver's license per se other than it works. But you're going to have to look up under the postal code thing there because it's similar to what the notaries do. They cannot refuse to do their job. And their job is basically make a compilation of your all your documents that you want to submit and that's their job is to submit them, not sort through them, not to prioritize, to put them together and get it on their way because it's above their pay grade.
The Secretary of State decides what to do. Go ahead, sir.
[03:07:29] Unknown:
Yes, it's Samuel. My understanding of what Terry Lee went through is he went down to the DMV and he asked them if they could make some changes. They they said they could not, and then he volunteered his driver's license back to them and asked for a certificate stating that he volunteered it back to them.
[03:07:57] Unknown:
But I don't know I don't know if he got anything in print with that or not.
[03:08:01] Unknown:
Yes. He asked he said he asked for a certificate saying that he volunteered giving it back to them. He gave it back to them He be for cause. Right. And one of the causes was the name.
[03:08:15] Unknown:
And then he tried to comply with state law, and they refused for in that direction. So then he's free and clear.
[03:08:23] Unknown:
Yeah. Well, he can at least say the judge said that he didn't he doesn't not that he didn't wanna have a driver's license. He wanted to have it in his Christian name, etcetera, whatever he his complaint. He have one
[03:08:36] Unknown:
in his given name, Sheldon?
[03:08:40] Unknown:
No. He never had one in his given name with, all printed out and stuff. It was all in straw man case.
[03:08:48] Unknown:
Well, no. I thought he and you just spoke to that and said it was correct. I remember him saying that they were changing over the system, and so they put in their upper and lowercase. And if you designated such, they would comply. And that was my understanding. Said that, Gary. He's never said that. Hold on. I'm asking Sheldon Samuel. And, shoot. I'm almost sure he said that, but I could be mistaken. That's for sure.
[03:09:22] Unknown:
Well, if it would've worked out, he would've had a license. He would've showed me when we met and you know, because we we did all kinds of show and tell for that two hours. So the this whole thing was he knew by trying to get a license that they wouldn't give him one, which was what his goal was, and he succeeded in that. Go ahead.
[03:09:42] Unknown:
Okay. Yeah. What what he was doing was the only reason he would have to volunteer it back is because they couldn't make the changes, which he became prepared for because he knew they wouldn't. And he just asked them to certify that he volunteered it back to them for cause. That's that's all he did, my understanding.
[03:10:03] Unknown:
Of course. But now Sure. You sound much better. You're doing it right now.
[03:10:07] Unknown:
Now he's at least got something he can say to the judge. So no, judge. I I was happy to have a driver's license, but I couldn't take it in my non Christian name and whatever else he put on his paperwork.
[03:10:22] Unknown:
Question. So I guess, would it be appropriate to ask the head counsel of the DMV, are you giving me legal advice When we want to do what we want to do, I do
[03:10:44] Unknown:
it. Do anything administrative leaders to subtract from their pension?
[03:10:54] Unknown:
I have a question. Are the administrators, public servants? Could they be considered as such? They want you to think that. Well, no. I I don't think they want us to think that. I think they wanna tell us what to do, but the two public servants who are elected have a different understanding of the term, a yield.
[03:11:26] Unknown:
They they're usually the first ones to tell you that they can't give you legal advice and tell them, you know, well, as a national, I don't want legal advice. I want lawful advice.
[03:11:42] Unknown:
I agree, Samuel. And that's I think is what distinguishes, a public servant from an agent, a yield.
[03:11:57] Unknown:
Yeah. That's it's it's sort of, you know, do they do they have the ability to give you lawful advice? No, not really. They can only give legal advice which they're told not to do. So I don't know how many times I've had that told to me by these administrative agencies. Well, we can't give you legal advice, right?
[03:12:37] Unknown:
Hey, Samuel.
[03:12:41] Unknown:
Hello? Yeah.
[03:12:44] Unknown:
This is Paul from Kentucky. I, I have to concur or agree with what you're saying. I'll call sometimes to ask procedural methods. Like, hey. What is the procedure to file this paper? And so many times the government person will say, well, I can't give legal advice. I'm not asking for like, hey. What are the three steps I need to do to get this in your, you know, file? You know? And they're like, well, you know, we can't give legal advice. So I yield. I just thought I would share that.
[03:13:20] Unknown:
Yeah. They want you represented. They don't want you. They want somebody who goes with the program. So that's why they made up that thing that you're an idiot if you don't have legal representation as well. Right?
[03:13:36] Unknown:
Yes. And unfortunately, I can't find competent counsel to work with. So I have to rely on myself and a and a few people that I surround myself with.
[03:13:50] Unknown:
Randy Lee uses the counsel of Jesus Christ.
[03:13:53] Unknown:
Yes. There you go. There you go. The great counselor.
[03:13:57] Unknown:
Well, and and, you know, I'm I'm somewhat impressed and disappointed over the past several years of how I'm going up against what I would think are very competent counselors that are opposing me and how I'm making them step and fetch and run and grab for straws. And even judges are are doing some pretty unethical stuff. And, just to try to level the playing field because, myself and a and a few folks who are supporting me in through this situation. It's interesting. And that's why yesterday, and I unfortunately didn't have an opportunity to write it down, but, Bruce was on the call, and he had talked about getting some judges kicked off the bench. And that's what I need to do for sure because, there are people who backed me up when I say that some of the stuff these judges are doing is criminal, virtually
[03:15:08] Unknown:
criminal. So I yield. Thank you for your comment. I really appreciate that. And, I heard Stefan Fetchit, who is exact a term southern term. And isn't there somebody named Stefan Fetchit? And, also, he he was on the board. I put in the chat, many videos, Bad Wolf unincorporated, and also passport endorsements. So if you're interested, you're in there. I yield.
[03:15:46] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. That is a southern term, you know, like, you hear Jeff Foxworthy talk about which you did you and innuendo, like, did a bird fly innuendo? But, I am proud to say that, through calls and groups like this, I I have pleasantly surprised my opponents, and, you know, they're see, I think you all know this better than I do. Nobody really practices laws in these courts. And so when I hit them with law and I hit them with statutes and rules and they they they're not they're used to doing the whole use car used car deal. Like, what what do you want? What do you want? How do we negotiate this? And I'm coming back, and I'm quoting laws and chapters and verses and, you know, they're not ready for all that. So I yield.
[03:16:48] Unknown:
I have a Samuel. Hello? Oh, sorry. This is Nancy again. So, I'm going to be sending in my affidavit to the DMV, and I was going to follow-up, today with that and a cover letter. And so is does anyone have pros and cons about addressing the signature issue in that letter and stating that, you know, my intent is to reserve all my rights, or all my rights are reserved because it's within it's a contract with and within seventy two hours. I'm not trying to cancel the contract. I'm just trying to, affirm all my rights are reserved.
[03:17:41] Unknown:
Well, you have all the constitution at your beck and calls, so you could say, does this conform with constitutional law? And they're gonna lie to you, right, because you have the right to travel. So you might put something like, I have a right to travel. I don't wanna be harassed on the side of the road. You know what I'm saying. I yield.
[03:18:07] Unknown:
Nancy, may I offer this? That you should distinguish in your cover letter that you do operate in commerce and have no problem, adhering to their codes, rules, and statutes, but that you also are a private citizen, a private people, better said, and distinguish between the two in your cover letter. That's what I think. Because you do operate in commerce.
[03:18:42] Unknown:
Right. Yeah. That's what I was thinking. And that was that's what I was thinking, Sherry. So thank you.
[03:18:50] Unknown:
Great point, Sherry. And I forgot that you I did operate in commercial.
[03:18:56] Unknown:
Samuel, you might have missed my question before. I was wondering if you, when we were discussing U. S. Postal Service money orders, if you knew the statute that said that that is lawful money or gold and silver and that is our remedy versus sending everything back to treasury for reducing the public debt like if we if they left that remedy that definitely says we can go and do everything with postal money orders that we were using lawful money in that case.
[03:19:43] Unknown:
We did have a, a postal, I forget the
[03:19:48] Unknown:
head the gosh. What are they called? Someone who runs the post office. Postmaster. Postmaster. Thank you. And she
[03:19:57] Unknown:
could not answer that question. And she said there might be an answer in that big thick book that I haven't found it yet. So that's all I have. I yield.
[03:20:12] Unknown:
Yes. I didn't know if it was Patriot Mythology or if Stanford had some legal side on it.
[03:20:18] Unknown:
Yeah. Do you know where that came from? No. You know where that you know where that came from? That came from, Brosse and his USA, The Republic. He says, once you're no longer the fourteenth amendment citizen to help you stay out of commerce, he suggested two things. And I don't know why. I mean, it makes sense, I guess, if you could find out that two things, a non interest bank account, non interest bearing bank account and if you're doing any transactions over state lines, if you're paying for anything over state lines to use a U. S. Postal money order And I'm assuming that, I don't know why that keeps you out of commerce in his opinion because he doesn't say from what I can tell.
[03:21:07] Unknown:
Okay. Thank you. Because I had heard the same thing, pay with postal money order, just meaning that somebody can use that as to pay down their thing or whatever. But I hadn't heard where is any different than using Federal Reserve notes or hadn't read like a site.
[03:21:24] Unknown:
Yeah. Well, when he brought it up, that made me think, well, maybe that's backed by the Treasury and still is like gold and silver, right? But I sort of doubt that, but the reason I was so happy about it is because if it's true, I made all my property payments when I bought my land with the postal money orders.
[03:21:51] Unknown:
Samuel, that question came up in the past. And, when was the book written by Brost?
[03:22:00] Unknown:
Oh, boy. I'm gonna guess the eighties.
[03:22:03] Unknown:
Yeah. So I think the question up question came up, has that changed? And we asked the postmaster to answer the question in her big thick book, and she never got back to us. I yield.
[03:22:17] Unknown:
Yeah. I mean, from my understanding, the postal code is massive. But somebody said, I think it might have been Burrows or Stamper, I don't know which one. Said if you go to the post office and you ask an employee what the law is, they're not under any compunction to tell you the truth. The postmaster general must tell you the truth. Or the postmaster, not general. I'm sorry. That's a good point.
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That might be a foyer then.
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Well, you'd have to have access. I I'm I'm sure, you know, in the old days, they'd be pulling a book off the shelf. They probably now got a computer program, right, to look. I've never been able able to find if it's backed by the the old treasury or not. I mean, it started out as being our first bank outside of Hamilton's Bank, which was the First Bank of the United States, which why they let him get away with that, I'm not sure.
[03:24:10] Unknown:
There is a postal link for doing a foyer for the postal office. I'm putting it in the chat right now.
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If I may, looking for some advice. My grandson, 12 years old, got bit by a two year old,
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what the hell is it,
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a dog, big dog at his friend's house. Got a pretty good bite on his calf. Dog chased him down, broke his chain, pit bull. Pretty much, you know, he didn't maul him. Thank God. And they saw it happen through their door, and they he starts screaming, and they went out and pretty much saved him. Called his mom, told him, get him to the hospital. They she took her to one hospital. They kept making him make her wait. Couple hours, she went to a different one, and they bandaged it up while he was waiting, and then they cleaned it up. And she leaned it out and said, you know, the sheriff had been there and said the shots weren't up to date, and they wanted to shoot him up with for rabies. I said, no freaking way. You get that damn dog tested or in quarantine or whatever you're gonna do. Don't you make that child get stuck getting rabies shots when we know where the dog is?
So they let them there's Michigan law. They can self quarantine the dog. There's four dogs in the house, four big dogs. And, you know, he came home from school. We have to walk by that house, and another dog started chasing him. Didn't, you know, do anything but freaked him out. And I talked to a friend of mine who's an ex cop around here, and he said sue the sue the county, the city, and the state for improper police protection. Well, you can't do that without an attorney. Anyway, you guys got any thoughts on it?
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Well, what would Doc Wallach do for the bite, first of all? And as far as the other one, I can't answer that. Sorry. Well, we're treating them, you know,
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for the bite. I think it's gonna be okay. It's pretty deep, you know, puncture and lacerations. He dug into the calf muscle and punctured it, and then, you know, it tore. They cleaned it up pretty good. And then, you know, my wife and daughter have been working on it.
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And,
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I'm pretty sure he doesn't have rabies. I don't think we have to worry about that. But, you know, he was traumatized, and he was that that was pretty vicious. Two year old pit bull, you know, attacking an eighty pound twelve year old boy. Where'd it happen? In in Michigan, outside on the street. You know, he was waiting for his younger friend who lives there to get off the bus, you know, come home from school on the bus. And the dog broke the chain and chased him down. And he saw the dog coming, and he said, oh, shit. Do you know when he started running and that dog, you know, grabbed him and and the you're right. The the the owner of the dog was watching it happen.
And my grandson said nobody came until he started screaming. And, you know, they came out and got the dog off of him and called mom and said to get him to the hospital.
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So You have a good case. Question is, is your time and effort gonna be worth the settlement?
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Right. I know look. This is in the ghetto. I don't believe, you know, I don't believe the guy I think the guy's a renter. And I'm sure he doesn't have insurance. My daughter has insurance. She could probably go after her own homeowners. But my my friend, you know, he he was a cop here in Pontiac, Michigan for years, and he's pretty sharp. He said his dad got hit by a car here in Michigan in 1969. And he was at after it happened, he was all busted up and he was at the horse race track and a guy walked up and said, what happened? You know? And he told him, he goes, here's my card. He was an attorney. He said, call me. He said that attorney sued the city, the county, and the state for improper police protection.
And in six weeks, his dad got a check for $360,000 in 1969. They did obviously, they settled out of court. Things were a lot different back then, but, I'm not sure which way to go on this one. Does
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the dog have a license?
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No. It it it's I don't know if he has a license, but the the the shots were not up to date. And the cops the sheriff went there. They didn't take the dog, or shoot the dog. They they're letting him self quarantine the dog.
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He said it's a ghetto. Was that a sharecropper owned by a sharecropper?
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I mean, the question needs to be answered about the license, I think, then you can sue the city.
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Okay.
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Dave?
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Yeah.
[03:30:24] Unknown:
Hey. It's Larry in Jacksonville. I just looked it up, and it says that, you can file in small claims court for up to $7,000, and there's no attorneys. You both parties represent themselves. So I think that's what you should do is just draw up a simple lawsuit in small claims. Go before a judge, and you'll probably win your case and get damages up to $7,000 to take care of, you know, get the hospital bill and all that kind of stuff. And, maybe teach your son to carry some pepper spray, you know, if he's walking around in in these rural areas and there's animals that are prone to getting out, at least he could have something to spray at the dog to deter it.
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K. Take one Thank you for that, Larry. And may I say, I was in on my all of a sudden, y'all couldn't hear me, but, this would be a moment to teach your grandson that he has authority over that dog. When you run from a dog, just like a bear or any other wild animal, they are gonna chase you. Turn around and confront them.
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I told them.
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Yeah.
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K. I told them, but, you know, when a 12 year old boy is being chased by a, you know, a giant dog, it's pretty hard to stand your ground.
[03:31:53] Unknown:
No. I get that. And let me tell you my dog story. I was probably six. So my older sisters were eight and 10. And we were walking around the block, and we decided to walk into
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I think they muted her because she didn't Oh, they're not doing it. Show. She she she has a problem not learning that her phone is way too loud. Dave, I think it's, worth your time and effort to go to the, small claims, I would presume. Yeah. I think that's the avenue.
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What about filing a claim against their homeowners insurance? And if they don't have any, you know, renters or is the owner of the home I'm pretty sure it's a rental.
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Yeah. Time and effort, though. I think, yeah, you might be able to get more and, but your time and effort. And take lots of pictures, Dave. May I?
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Take pictures of his wound.
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May I? You, you could probably file a claim against the actual owner of the house even though this was done by the renter, ideal.
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Thank you. I agree.
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And Samuel You go after the deep pockets after the chain company, chain manufacturer. Of course, they probably weren't using the right size chain for that dog.
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Well, they've had the dog probably for, you know, as long as my grandson's been there. That's a two year old, pit bull. And, you know, their bite strength, I think I've heard it's been it's the strongest pencil strength of any dog jaws. It's a pretty ugly wound. You know, they are taking pictures. They're just getting better, and I think he does deserves more than that small claim amount. You know? Now he's he's gonna be afraid of dogs for a while. You know what I mean? That's a that's pretty traumatic. Hate him live in there, but yep.
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Hey, Dave. Has the owner of the dog offered to pay for everything? The medicine, the treatment, the therapy, the everything. Has he offered to pay for everything?
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Nope. No. We won't hear anything like that. And and, actually, the the you know? So it's a it's a family, you know, a white mother and a a black, male. He's not, they're not married. And she has ten ten boys from another, somebody else. And, you know, they live with this dude. And, the the youngest boy there is a couple years younger than my grandson, and you don't have a whole lot of friends in that area, and that's, like, his best friend. And, you know, now their dog tried to eat him. And, you know, they they called you know, they got the dog off, and they called the mom, but, no. They never called to see how he was or and then we brought that boy here, you know, the next weekend for the weekend.
And, anyway, he spent the weekend with us and and our grandson.
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I have a quest I have a question for anybody who knows, about pit bulls. Would it have been better for in the future that your son not run away from a charging pit bull, but to stand tall and yell? I don't know the answer, but that would be a good question for his future. I yield.
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Isn't that what I said? And it goes for any dog or any bear or any wild animal.
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Yep. You're you got cut off and muted because your phone is too loud. You haven't learned your lesson.
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Okay. Well, I was on my laptop, and y'all couldn't hear me. So I called in until I could reboot my laptop. But what I was saying is that when I got bitten by a dog, my two older sisters ran away from me. And it's just like that old saying goes, alls I have to do is outrun you. Right. And they'd let me get bit by that dog.
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Right. Are you? Well, I told him and, unfortunately, bad on me. I I've never told him to stand his ground and not run away from a a running you know, a charging dog. He loves dogs. He loves everybody,
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and, yeah, he's he's being abused. Sorry, Dave. Thank
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you. You know, I have a story about that too because I love animals, and I've never had a dog that was aggressive to me till I wouldn't stay with a friend of mine out in Colorado. And she had this little terrier, and the darn thing bit me. I was so beside myself. Oh my gosh. You don't like me?
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Yeah.
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So sometimes I look at you all like terriers in this club. Are you?
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Hey, Dave.
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Yep.
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You know what? You might try is see if there's a really good dog trainer in your area and happens tell him tell him what happened with the child, and and maybe he can help him re empower himself Okay. About dealing with dogs. You know? Yeah.
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It's such a good idea. Thanks, Samuel. Sorry. Yes. Thank you, Samuel. Samuel, I don't know if you're aware of this, but yesterday, it came on the web that a a young lady, with children confronted a chemtrail pilot that was seeding the clouds for the water district in Sonora. And she showed up at the at the base at night, and she got in. And she confronted the pilots and asked them questions about them spraying barium aluminum. And it is quite interesting. There is, her name. She did get interviewed by the SGT report. Her name is Mellow Cat, and I just wanted to point that out before I stepped away.
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I don't know if you're Yeah. I think I think she uses an app to be able to track the air traffic. Is that the same one? Yes. Yes. And she's very she's very proficient in that, and she's gonna start producing,
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videos on showing people how to track aircraft very quickly and easily. And it's a very good interview on SGT and the video of her confronting the pilots. They know what they're doing. There's also a great video just said. We're just doing our job.
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There's also a great video of her on Stu Peters as well, but you're right. It's Mellow Cat. It's on Substack. And I don't believe she's even charging for her Substack, but maybe she is now. But, yeah, it's a great interview, you guys. I yield.
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Sched, I have to pause them before you go, if you don't mind. You said that she got on to the base, but she confronted pilots that were spraying for the water district. Yeah. So are they I'm just core curious. Is the water district and the military base in Cahoots.
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No. This is a private Cherry Cherry, she went to the airport. She didn't went to a a base. She went to the, jet airport.
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A private airport that Private airport. Yeah. That is closed. You know, there were no lights at the airport because it was basically in the middle of the night when they do their spraying. So the plane came in. They got off the plane. She was let in by one of the the ground attendants because she was just a nice young girl who said I'm here to ask questions, and they'd let her in. And the answers that the pilots gave, you could just hear that they they knew what they were doing, but they didn't wanna take responsibility. And they had children too, and they have no
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That he actually lied. He actually lied. He said he helped out his friend.
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And they're being paid. She don't say she was there to ask questions. She was there to see the pilot, and she say the name of the pilot, and he came out.
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Hey, Dave? She she actually posted the name of the company that's doing this, and it's, of course, none other than a three letter agency called the NGO. That's and I had never even heard of that company before at all. High yield.
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Dave here.
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Yes. Hey, this is Larry again. What are your reservations? It sounded like you didn't want to take this to a court. And there's nothing wrong with going to court when you're the plaintiff.
[03:41:58] Unknown:
No. No. No. I don't have reservation about that, but I don't want him I think he deserves a lot more than $7,000, and I don't think it's a small claim. I think it's a big claim. Okay. Well, then you And I don't wanna You really have no choice Pardon
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me? You really have no choice but to hire an attorney because they would investigate the insurance that they would find out if the homeowner has insurance. And, of course, they'll do everything they can to try to get, you know, settlement money out of somebody to to, you know, to cover the damages and everything else and cover their own expenses, you know. And another thing is, you know, pit bulls have gotten a bad name. I made a delivery one time to a customer's house. It was a residential house and, you know, very nice gentleman, older gentleman and his wife. And all of a sudden, when I opened up the door or when they opened up the door in the garage, there was this huge pit bull that was right there and I was startled and they said, oh, don't worry about him. He's he's very loving. And that dog was the most loving dog I have ever met in my life.
Very big dog. It was licking me. It was, it was trying to play with me. It was trying to, like, he had a little ball and he wanted to play fetch. And so I was talking to them about this and they said that they have owned a number of pit bulls over the years, like four or five of them and they said that all of their dogs have always been taken care of very well. And I said, well, what's why did they give such a bad rap, these pit bulls and these other dogs like them in that category? And he told me because I mean, he knows how to raise dogs and he said it's all in how you raise them. You got to love them. You don't, you know, these people that have this dog that's on a chain and, you know, they are just not taking care of it well. They are not loving it. They are not teaching it.
You know, discipline and all these things. And so that's a big deal.
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Well, I gotta say my grandson's been going over to that house. Hold on, Sherry. Owner. I yield. My grandson's been going over there for a couple years. He don't go in the house. He's been in it, but, you know, the the man of the house doesn't really care for him. You know, he's a black man. My grandson's white. And And he's pretty mean. He's a weirdo. And anytime my grandson goes over and knocks on the door, all four dogs come running to the door and they go crazy barking at them, trying to get through the door to kill them. And and he says, he yells at him, quit teasing the dogs, you know, and he's he did not teasing the freaking dogs, you know. And, anyway, he's out in front of the house playing him. That dog knows him.
Okay. But the dog still attacked him, and that dog needs to be put down.
[03:45:07] Unknown:
Dave, what happens is that in most cases, the personality of the dog is the personality of the owner. Yeah. And and they wanna please the owner. They wanna do what the owner likes them to do. Yep. And that's sort of sad.
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Yep. I don't think Well, I have a question, Dave.
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Was the man, the so called man of the house there that day? Yeah. I would hazard a guess no.
[03:45:36] Unknown:
Yes. He said he was watching the dog chase down my he saw the dog break his chain and chase after my grandson and bite him. And then he went outside and he grabbed the dog and said, you know, called my daughter and said, he's bleeding. You need to get him to the hospital. That's right. So he's going on. Hey,
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Dave. You need to write an affidavit in this regard just to have it for the record.
[03:46:07] Unknown:
Just one minute. Did the did the boy see the dog break the chain or is that b s too? No. He saw the dog break the chain. Okay. Well, at least he's telling the truth there. Yep. Okay. And what I will say to you, it is not hearsay if that man said it to you
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directly.
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No. He didn't say it to me. He said it it's in the police report. He said it to the Oh, even better.
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Yeah.
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Even better.
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Ideal.
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Yep. He he told it pretty much like it was.
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How many calls the police?
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Who called the police? Just curious.
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Well, I told my daughter when she called me from the hospital to call the cops. I said call police right away. So I don't know if if the you know, if she had reported him when she got to the hospital already, if they called. But, you know, obviously, dog bite, you know, rabies and all that.
[03:47:13] Unknown:
Well, it's Anyway, the the police report who initiated the call. That should be the first statement.
[03:47:20] Unknown:
I didn't see that in the report. And there is they redact my daughter had to go buy the police report, and they redacted about 90% of it. And most of the shit they redacted was in the bottom of the report. That's so stupid.
[03:47:35] Unknown:
Well, they have to be careful, Dave, when it comes to a minor.
[03:47:40] Unknown:
So Yeah. They didn't redact my son my grandson. They redacted the owner of the dog.
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But then they put it in a different
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part of the, you know, on the bottom part of the report, it wasn't redacted.
[03:47:55] Unknown:
No. That is no lie. I do. Have your kid write their
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own affidavit of the truth of what happened.
[03:48:05] Unknown:
Yeah. But they weren't there, so they really can't. Except for what their grandson said to them, they can write an affidavit regarding that.
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The police should have a recording of of what happened.
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And that's where the lawyers come in. But I'm you gotta be a firsthand witness. And for what their grandson told them is evidentiary, and you can put into an affidavit on his behalf for sure. And that's what I would do. I yield.
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What I would be concerned about for the parents' sake is that they don't get accused of neg child negligence for not executing the so called rabies treatment that the medical world may want. You should really find out what's legitimate there and what isn't. You know? Samuel, he went to the hospital.
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So Yeah. But they wanted to start rabies at shots. Right? Well, he didn't have the dog with him at the hospital, so they wanted to initiate a rabies shot. And I and my daughter texted me, and I said, hell no. They know where that dog is. I said, that dog should needs to be checked how whatever they do. You're not gonna start shooting my grandson up with a rabies shot when you got the damn dog.
[03:49:38] Unknown:
Yeah. That that's my point, David, is you is you wanna know what what the rabies shot is really all about because, you know, the hospital's gonna stick you with anything they can charge you for. Right? Right. Absolutely. The re the reality of it is, though, for your for your children's sake, you know, the the parents of the boy, that they don't get accused of child neglect of somehow because there's a protocol that they wanna stick to on the rabies deal, dog or no dog. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. I hear you. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. It should be the The hospital
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didn't even all they did was clean it out with saline solution after she said no on a rabies shot. They didn't even give her antiseptic for it.
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And no stitches?
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No. Okay. Well, the best thing for a wound, a skin wound, let it bleed. Let it bleed all that stuff out. Hey. But what I'm saying is the police should have documented whether that dog had his rabies
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vaccination or not. They did. It's in the it's in the report. It said the the owner doesn't think the dog shots were up to date. So they offered him, an option to quarantine the dog at home with the other dogs and the family, but it can't see any other, you know, non family members or or animals for ten days. May I?
[03:51:16] Unknown:
Yes. I'm just, I'm not playing the devil's advocate here, but I have researched all of these vaccinations both for humans and for dogs. That vaccination for rabies only needs to be done once in a lifetime. So I I I understand that, you know, the I don't vaccinate my dog. I refuse to vaccinate him because I've seen what's in these vaccinations, and it's it's not good. It's the same thing they're giving human beings. So, you know, you still could obviously use that against them because the the the obviously the codes and statutes and regulations are that you have to vaccinate your dog.
But, I'm just sitting saying I I wouldn't worry, regarding
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inspection. I'm not. I I I'm not, Julie. I agree with you. We've looked into the same thing. When we moved out here to the country in 2010, We stopped vacuuming our animals as well because we found out the truth.
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And, yeah, it's it's all bullshit. And I would never let him stick a needle in that boy no matter what. You know what? I don't even feed my dog dog food. I cook human food for him every single day, and I had cancer and a bone marrow transplant and suffered from focal point seizures, for many years. And he my little palm, he's the cutest thing you guys could ever see. You guys you guys just wanna steal them from me. He can detect a seizure in me, but I don't get them anymore. But I mean, I think what somebody was saying earlier, the fact that this dog is a duplicate or a parallel personality of the owners, what's happening here. Because I see that all the time when I'm in Washington, DC because we're at most homes in Washington, DC are row homes. They're not even detached homes if you're in a metropolitan area. And you will see these pit bulls that are out in front, and you will see the owners come out. You'll hear them on the phone screen and yelling at somebody, and you're like, oh, my god. Like, dog like owner.
And, so I you know, my heart goes out to you. But, I definitely would not only pursue the renter, but more than likely if I were you, I would pursue the homeowner because that homeowner, if you get a judgment against that homeowner, you can put a lien on the house in the land records, and you can force the sale of the home.
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Yeah.
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Okay. Might I add, those little ankle ankle biters can be just as vicious as a larger dog. Oh, yeah.
[03:53:53] Unknown:
Absolutely. Absolutely. Julie, do you remember the movie Gremlins? Yep. Yep. We had a six pound Pomeranian Chihuahua named Buffy, the vampire flayer. She looked and sounded exactly like Gizmo. Oh my god. That's gotta be adorable. I wanted to name her Gizmo, but my daughter said no. She she named her Buffy the Vampire Slayer.
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That is funny. Yeah. My my little boy is, beyond smart because, like I said, he was trained to follow me everywhere. So I don't have any peace and quiet at my house when I shower or have to use the throne. Right. I mean, he's right there next to me. But, he's he's adorable. But, you know, I have to be careful about him. He's super duper, friendly and everything, but if a small if a small little kid comes up into his face Oh, yeah. Sometimes yeah. And I'm like, I'll tell the homeowner, please do not bring your dog up against in my dog's face. I do not want anything to happen here. Well, my understand.
[03:54:56] Unknown:
About two weeks before this incident, my grandson was at his his other friend's house, and they got some little yappy dog. And he was sitting on the floor, and that dog, it it bit him in the face.
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Yeah. I don't have a It barely
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caught the skin. There was a little mark, but it, you know, it it he was gone by the next day, but still it hurt like hell. You know, it pinched his skin. And, and, you know, it's just unbelievable what's happening to this boy.
[03:55:30] Unknown:
Yeah. I my dog is I've had many They were mean he was gone by the next day. They got rid of the animal? No. The mark on his face. Oh, I gotcha. Okay. Yeah. You couldn't even see anything.
[03:55:43] Unknown:
So let me tell you something. You can go on Amazon, and there are these bandages, and they're called Scar Away, s c a r a w a y. And you can buy those. They're relatively cheap. And what you do is you use scissors and you cut them up into the, shape of the scar or the shape of where your son was bitten. And this is used on burn victims to heal scars from being burned. And I can tell you they work like there's no tomorrow. It helps grow back the skin and it helps heal in any sort of dents that your son might have it on his leg. And they're they they don't hurt. You can wear them in the shower. You can wash them and then put them back on. It's got like a gel on the bottom of them. And the outside is the color of the skin. So if he's out wearing it, you really it's very hard to see unless you're really focused on it. And get some boxes of that and build the, build the renter and build a homeowner for those as well because that will that will heal up a lot of people. Like I said, I'm I'm a testimony for that. I use that all the time. I've actually fallen before and had some really bad scars and sometimes you have to wear them for a year, but they don't hurt. You can barely see them and they really do work.
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That's
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Do you mind just saying what is the ingredients
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of that product if you know? Thank you. That I don't know and, I I have no clue what in fact, it could very well not be not be good. Could I don't know if they've changed the ingredients. I haven't worn one for a long time. That I don't know, Sherry, and that's a very good question because most things and most products have, chemicals in them and poisons in them. All I will tell pray, Liz. All I will tell you is that I had a, shin. I fell on my shin. The skin scar was so disgusting. It was purple, and it was all indented in. And I don't know. I used that for a year and everything, you can't even tell where it was anymore. I guess I and that if you guys would have seen that, you would have used the chemical ScarAway to get rid of that.
[03:58:00] Unknown:
Hey, Dan. Tom, where are you doing? Okay, guys. Feeling it. No. I'm going to have to cut you off here. Dark. I'm gonna have to cut you all off here. It's long past time to take the stream down. So, thank you for joining us at Radio Ranch with Roger Sales on EurofolkRadio.com and radio.globalvoiceradio.net. Catch us here Monday through Saturday, 11AM to 1PM eastern. And, hey. Don't miss the show tomorrow followed by Paul English live on Eurofolkradio.com and radio.globalvoiceradio.net. Thank you. Bye now. Blasting the voice of freedom worldwide, you're listening to the Global Voice Radio Network.
[03:58:48] Unknown:
Bye bye, boys. Have fun storming the castle.
Introduction and Program Overview
Weather and Broadcast Updates
Fire Incident at WDRN Studios
Silver Cloth and Burn Treatments
Swatting Incidents and Political Commentary
Tesla Lawsuits in China
Elon Musk and Dogecoin
Trump and Putin Conversations
Listener Engagement and New Audience
Driver's License Renewal and Legal Advice
Allegiance and Protection in Law
Jurisdiction and Legal Discussions
Passport Card and Traffic Stops
Declaratory Judgments and Legal Strategies
Historical Context and Legal Interpretations
Dog Bite Incident and Legal Recourse
