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In this episode of the Radio Ranch, host Roger Sayles shares exciting news about his upcoming appearance on the Jeff Rense show, a significant milestone for his mission to spread awareness about national status and freedom. Roger expresses gratitude to listeners who helped make this opportunity possible by reaching out to Rense. The episode also features discussions on the importance of understanding one's rights under natural law versus constitutional rights, and how the affidavit process can help individuals reclaim their status as nationals.

Roger and co-host Paul Biener discuss the implications of tariffs and how they might shift the burden of taxation from income to sales taxes, potentially benefiting the U.S. economy by encouraging domestic manufacturing. The conversation touches on the historical context of tariffs and their role in America's economic prosperity.

Listeners are encouraged to participate in the ongoing conversation about freedom and rights, with Roger emphasizing the importance of individual choice in reclaiming one's national status. The episode also includes a heartfelt tribute to Roger's mentors, John Benson and Glenn Ambort, who played pivotal roles in his journey to understanding and teaching the law.

Throughout the episode, Roger addresses listener questions and comments, providing insights into the legal and historical aspects of national status, the constitution, and the role of treaties. The show concludes with a reminder of the power of collective effort and perseverance in achieving significant goals.

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Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. So would we. We're on the path to try and do that. Another two hour segment of the shoulders to the wheel here this morning on the Radio Ranch. It is the   February 27.   And, Roger Sales, your host here, were,   were helped or assisted,   by a number of other platforms who wanted to saw the light and wanted to   join in the heavy lifting. And, Paul Biener   is the guy that kinda keeps up with all that. We give Paul the space here to identify them, and we certainly always wanna extend our gratitude and thanks for their help. Don't we, Paul?  

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Oh, absolutely do.   And now that I've got all of the the appropriate buttons pressed  

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Yeah. We're  

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we we get to go on with the show. So one zero six point nine WBOU   FM Chicago, the pulse   of Chicago.   Welcome.   Thank you for joining us this morning.   RadioSoapbox.com,   brought to us by, buddy Paul   from Across the Drink, and 3PM eastern today will be Paul English  

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live. That's right. It's the Thursday double duty day.  

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Yes. It's it's it's the Thursday double duty day for sure.   And, we're also on EurofolksRadio.com.   Thanks to pastor Eli James, still recovering from triple bypass,   and Global Voice Radio Network. That is radio.globalvoiceradio.net.   Links to Eurofucking Global Voice are on the matrix docs as well as the free conference call links. So you can join us live on the show. Come on down.   Pack a lunch. Stay the day.   Homenetwork.TV   and freedomnation.TV,   go live TV, and stream life.tube   are brought to us by the NET family   of broadcast services and WDRN   productions   Fort Collins,   Colorado.  

Alive and it happen in space there,   Raj.   I have, I have announcement to make. Might as might as well. You.   Okay. Yeah. Today is my birthday. I am 18 today.  

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Felice.   Well, thank you. Thank you very much. Yeah. Yes. Yes. Which in Spanish means happy. Felice is yep. Felice. This is interesting. Felice is happy.   You know, Felice Navidad. Remember?   And is   complete years.   So they say happy complete completed years.  

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Oh, cool. Yeah. Well, I It's kinda interesting.  

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Actually, it's been a long time coming. I turned 18 today at 08:10 this morning.  

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Good lord. Okay. Well, should we investigate that? It sounds suitable for investigation.   You're you're not aging? You have some the c oh, 18 Celsius. Okay.   Alright. Well, listen. I wanted to give a I've got a couple of announcements too, Paul.   First of all, I got a link sent to me from Eli the other day,   And, I wrote him back. I said, I I assume this means you're you're doing better, and he sent me a little thumbs up thing. So   Eli is on the mend and sending out  

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stuff. That's good. That is way cool.  

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And, Paul, you know, usually when you give all the credentials to all the folks that help us and stuff and you you say, like, I've got a thousand seats   waiting for you.  

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Yeah.  

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Do you have a duster   around there?   You might wanna get them get a duster out and dust them off because nobody's been in those seats to my knowledge,   but that might be about to change.   I got an email this morning, and I am booked on Jeff Rentz next week.   So thank all of you   who have assisted in dropping those emails and stuff. You mentioned that several people had dropped him emails.   Thank you so much from the bottom of my heart. It's been a big it's another big goal for me,   k, in this project.   Okay? And,   one of the biggest we've had in a while, and I hope it's not a disappointment. I don't believe it will be. The last time that I had expectations   about this was John b Wells.  

And I was on there, if you'll remember, a couple of times and hosted. They asked me to host one time.   And,   but I was very disappointed in the response from his audience. We never   very few people came from the John b Wells,   exposure, and I was quite surprised at that, honestly.   But, Rince's audience is real different, I think, from John b Wells. So   we'll see. He he's given me two options for next week, the sixth and the seventh, Thursday and Friday. And I think I'll take, the sixth   because it   is still in the middle of the week. And, you know, Friday night, people go out to dinner or over other folks' houses or whatever.   And so, I think we'll try and catch that Thursday night audience. I haven't written him back yet.  

And it's interesting. He's very polite and congenial in his email.   And he said, well, I went back and looked at   some of your stuff, and and he said, I found something to do with Pavlov's dogs.   And he said, I I'd really like for you to cover that, you know, our little stuff about Pavlov's experiments.   And because I've been trying to tell the listeners for years that they're they're be be being programmed through their cell phones, etcetera, etcetera.   So, anyway, of course, obviously, it's his his wish will cover that.   And I just have a sneaking suspicion that Jeff and I are probably gonna gel pretty good together,   because because of a lot of my broadcast   background,   and he likes that kind of stuff, you know, the nostalgic stuff and all that. I think he'll probably go nuts over that. So   I would imagine I will be on there more than once. Let's just put it that way.  

I'm sure I will be because you can't cover our stuff in one one hour session.   K? You can hit the hype switch, but you just can't cover it. So, anyway,   thrilled to one of the better mornings I've had, and I can't remember when.   And, again, thanks to everybody who contributed to sending him an email. And we, put our group shoulder to the wheel, and we've,   accomplished something. And what do they say? Many hands make light work?  

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Absolutely.  

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Hey. What are you doing?   So, anyway, that is the big news from my corner. And,   wow, the feeling. I I got up, you know, this morning. I   pardon me?  

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Your news is a lot more exciting than my news.  

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I I just I'm I'm just I'm I almost have to pinch myself and say, is it really happening? You know?   I followed Rents for a long time.   He was one of the very first broadcasters on the Internet,   for he's been on the air for thirty years, folks.   Three hours a night for thirty years, all these different guests.   Bart doctor Bart Flick was on there   twenty something years ago with Silverlon.   So I'll he'll he'll like that. The the fact that, you know, I worked with Bart, and he knows him a little bit. So, anyway, very exciting.   I'm, kinda overwhelmed. You know? You get to points when you've worked so hard and you wanted something so bad, and you've tried so hard to accomplish it. And, you know, as I've told you, I just had a number a couple of years ago, I just said, well, I just can't do this anymore. It's a emotional,   roller coaster.  

And so I just kinda reevaluated   it   and and told, the big guy. I said, look. This is your you gotta open this door. I can't open it. K? I've been totally unsuccessful in opening it, so I'll drop back. That's your job now, and I'll drop back and kinda continue to polish my job and,   get get a few more folks in the foundational part of this. And at some point, when you're ready, you open that door for us. Well, that appears that that has happened.   Because I really believe and I'm trying not to be have too many expectations,   but I really believe this may really kick start us, folks.  

And that's why I say you ought to get the duster out and dust off the seats on those thousand seats, Paula,   because we may be using them pretty soon.  

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Well, we do Very good. Actually have a few thousand seats.   A thousand seats is just one conference room.  

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Right. Well, we see how many we can fill. I mean, I I have no idea how large Rince's audience is. I know they're very loyal.   But just because he covers   cutting edge stuff   that a lot of other people don't cover, all the UFO stuff, which I don't particularly,   is not my bag, you know, and I'll tell you why.   It's because I'm on the facts. I wanna show, hey. This is where you can go get this court case and this statute and this all that. I want people to go look at it. And you start bringing UFOs and all that stuff into that conversation, and you've lost half the people you're talking to. So I've just never even mentioned it. I've never gotten into it myself personally, and I like things that are real. What we do is bring you into total reality,   I I guess, about as far as you can get into it. And,   but it's just really exciting after all of these years and all of the man, if I can only get on rent, you know, I'm I can't tell you how many times I've had that thought.  

But I've tried so many different avenues. And finally, a while back, I just threw my hands up. Just, well, hell, I'll just wait and it it's gonna happen. I'll just wait till it happens and that it's happened. So,   again, profusely, I thank all of you who contributed to putting your shoulder to the wheel. And it just goes to show you that when we really try and point on something, get us together, we can,   sometimes make it happen. So, it's just thrilling. It's a great morning for me, and and it'll be a week from tonight that we'll be on there. It'll only be an hour the first time. That's okay. We I can I can titillate enough folks and get enough people's curiosity,   that,   I believe we'll have a really, really good response, especially now because we can get around the Zionists   and Trump can't?  

And we could actually, with numbers, force them.   Trump and cadre   on some of this stuff. And as,   well, it was, it was our buddy John that, and I don't remember if he mentioned it on the air. I think he mentioned it in a private conversation we had. I brought it to the air, and a number of you agreed with it.   John said, I think you got the most important message in the world.   You know, that's a that's a really big statement.   K?   And,   yes. And we very well may. So, yeah, Tom. Thank you, buddy. How are you doing?  

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Alrighty. The difference between you and Rents is he's entertainment   in your education.  

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Okay. I'll buy that.  

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That's they're all buy that. He's got a tremendous  

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audience, and they're very   bright.  

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And I have a Yeah. I've read a lot of his stuff, and I've listened to his shows a lot. So I kinda get into that some of that stuff because, you know, you just wonder what the hell is flying around out there, you know, for Well, I Especially back in the early fifties. You know, what was flying over around the White House? What was that?  

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Yeah. Well and as I said, the minute I bring that stuff up to people and try and talk about your freedom here, you lose a bunch of them percentage wise. And so I just don't mess with it.   And I find it curious and all that, but I just don't mess with it. Somebody else is trying to say something there. Was that Samuel?  

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No. It was Carl. How are you? Hey, Carl.  

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Good. Oh, so How am I? Hell, I'm I'm ecstatic.  

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Well, congratulations.   I think it's a good thing. I've been trying to get you onto,   connected with a couple of different people.   One of them is Brandon Joe Williams.   He's a little more crass, but   I think you guys can make a great show together. It have to be on after hours.   He doesn't start really doing much till after about noon.   So I have have contacted him and he is he is willing to meet with you. And then also I've reached out to a sheriff,   Joe Greisner.   I think he's out of   Michigan.  

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Uh-huh. And  

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he's a very unwoke   unwoke sheriff. So Right. Hopefully, that wouldn't pan out. But   do you, have you would love to do a show with you.  

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Okay. Well, that's great. We'll just get them get them in touch, and we'll schedule something.   On the guy in Michigan, you should ask him if he knows of sheriff Darleaf,   who's the guy that Brent does all this work with up there. And, I'm sure that he probably is very familiar with him. And we've had Dar on the show here one time for an hour on Friday. We   spontaneously   his name came up, and Brent said, well, let me see if we can get him. And we had him on the show for an hour. I kind of,   pitched a little bit of what we do. He was not familiar with it, but, subsequently,   one of our listeners and students is in his county.  

And, I guess, has given him all the notification stuff. We hadn't spoken with him since, but you could ask your sheriff, tell him we're very much aligned with that. And,   the guy that Darr does all his common law constitutional stuff with is,   Brent Winters, of course, who's with us every Friday, will be tomorrow.   Now the other fella, you what you might wanna do with him is is,   I think the best interview that I've done is that one with, badass uncle Sam. It's called God's Trump Card.   And you might want to just send him that. So if you wanna preview it, you can look at this.   And any of you that are wanting to hook us up with any of the folks you like to listen to, I would suggest that you use that video. It's just   the difference in explaining it after they understand what's happening   to the the opposite of explaining it when they don't really understand equivocation   and stuff. It just makes a whole lot of difference, I think.  

So and I believe that's the reason that video is so effective.   So, anyway, well, thank you very much. And if you if you've got that situation, just,   you know, have them get me an email or put us together on email or something. We'll take it from there. Thank you very much. Yes. Yes.   Who was Roger in there?  

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Maybe Glenda Louise, may I? Hey. Well, certainly, we'll entertain  

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her, a lady of of such graciousness. Hey, Linda. How are you doing, sweetie?  

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I'm well. I,   as you know, on February 20, the moment I heard about Jeff's show,   I sent my email and I had your name on it. And I attached   the, God's Trump card because that was the video that pushed me into seriously   considering   your methodology.   And I just sent   Jeff a thank you,   and I told him that his show will probably have an uptick of new listeners.   So I also put you on that,   email. So  

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I'll put you, sweetie.  

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I I encourage everyone who   I encourage everyone who did send Jeff,   this,   opportunity   of meeting Roger   to add Roger to your email and thank Jeff   because we're all   waiting with bated breath  

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to hear this particular show. And I Oh, you and me both. I'll be going over that in my mind for a week. I promise you. Who who else is trying to say something there?   K. You know, you role play this stuff in your mind. I do anyway.   And,   that that's how I work on it when I'm not with you guys, you know, and have stumbled on a lot of different   what I do with this is,   thank god for my talents that I was given, but I kind of you know, when you look at a CAD cam   program, you know what a CAD cam program is, Linda?   I don't know. She might have muted out. I I muted myself. No. I didn't know what a CAD CAM is. Educate the That's where well, that's when designers go in in three d on a computer, and they've got   the architects and stuff and they can do in three d on the computer.  

And you can take that image that it builds and spin it from any direction,   you know. And that's what I kinda do with my mind is I take this   this the the,   this structure of what we know, and then I kinda shift my perspective   around and look at it from different angles. And it's been extremely productive for me over the years. So that's kind of the way I do this, you know? And so when we're not   on here talking directly,   then I and I'm thinking about it. And as I've told you, I'm almost always thinking about this in some capacity,   and that's the way I do it. So,   thanks to the good Lord for giving me the ability to do that, and,   it's been quite productive. So thank you, Linda, and everybody who helped. And, yeah, if you wanna drop Jeff and You're welcome, Roger. I just got a couple of, texts  

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from intimate people that I deal with on your show that have become dear friends, and they're texting me left and right saying, they're gonna get on it right away.  

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Okay. Great. Well, I appreciate everybody's helping out. Forward to your presence.   Go ahead. As I've tried to get across from the start of this, I've tried to structure this from the start as a team,   because I know I can only do so much as an individual. But as a team, we can accomplish great things as is evidenced with this right here. You know, there is no I in team, the old coach prep talk stuff,   and many hands make for light work. So,   it's just,   it's been a long hard road, and I've been very frustrated along the way a few times, but persevered,   and, here we are. So hopefully   and it very well could be. I don't wanna get any expectations   up there for me or you, but,   it may be that this is that really next big step we've been looking for.  

And once you get on rent, you're gonna be exposed to a whole bunch of people who've got incredible other connections because you never know who somebody knows.   K?   So somebody's related to somebody or used to be your ex wife's brother or   and there's some in some really important position. You just never know what those connections are.   And so we're we'll we'll see. I'm quite   excited, and it is a,   a very nice morning for me out of the ordinary, and,   it's just wonderful. So,   there's nothing like achieving a big goal.   I mean, a big goal. That is true. That is true. This is the feeling you can't buy it with any kind of wealth. K? I mean, it's just a feeling of satisfaction   and gratitude   that is, was unmatched. It's it's hard to match. And I mean, you you think this is a big goal where fifteen years ago, I was the only guy in the world that knew about this on our side.  

Only guy. I and I couldn't get anybody to listen.   And finally, somebody I knew who I'd been bugging for years   said, yeah. Well, come on. I'll get you on the air. And that's where it started. That was the really big first, warm fuzzy.   And I thought at that point that it would just take off. And even after that, when I got on Joyce's show, one one Joyce one Joyce appearance with all those listeners, and it did to some extent. Samuel   will listen to that show, and there's some of you that heard me for the first time there.   But we never have gotten the response that I would have thought we would have gotten.  

I understand a little bit better now than I did then. And, but I think the worm has turned so much   that this may be a real seminal event. So   say a prayer. We'll see. Yes. Who was, wanting me there a second ago?  

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Hey, Roger. This is Annette.   Just to give you a heads up.   There is, an interview on YouTube with you and Rents.   Jeff Rents. With me. It was when you were, the the you had the,  

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email Annette. Account   prior?   Yeah. But I've never had an interview with Jeff Rent.  

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Oh, maybe okay. I I might be mistaken. Okay. Uh-huh.  

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Believe me, if I would've, we   something would've major changed because he's got a huge audience.   Okay?   So we'll see. But, no, I've never appeared with mister Rentz. I've been wanting to for a long, long time. Tried everything under the sun. Me and another guy bought $3,500   worth of advertising. I couldn't even get to him with that.   Okay? Even with the girl that was the advertising salesman,   she listened to me on the air and got it and could never get it to him. So,   and I've tried through several of his guests,   that are on there, and I'm I've just never been able to get to first base on it. So, anyway, he'd always be very polite.  

He'd come back and say, well, listen. Tell Roger thanks for what he's doing, and I'm just so busy. Yada yada yada. Well,   I guess we've gotten to the point where we've got our little   what we got our nose under the tent.   Okay? We'll see how how how it goes from there.   But, quite thrilling, Annette. And and again, which this is just a life lesson for all of you. When you set a a big goal in your life and you just keep working and you persevere and you I'm gonna accomplish that no matter what. And, man, when you get it, it's just you feel like you're walking on clouds.   K?  

So quite a good morning here at the February,   and I'm thrilled and,   all that kind of stuff. And,   I it may change what we're doing a little bit, folks. I think we'll have a lot more people's attention.   And, what a good time to flood them in DC, all these new cabinet officials   with copies of your affidavit sent to,   Rubio.   So, pretty thrilling. Pretty thrilling. Wow. And and the beautiful thing is, of course, we're totally correct, and and they can't do anything about it. You know?   There's not one thing they can do about it.   Because they don't have that power.  

And they know it.   Alright. This new bunch might not. We'll educate a few of them, I hope. So,   I think yesterday, if anybody else got a comment on that,   if not, we'll just move on. I don't wanna dwell on that too much. It's a week away.   But very important.   Yesterday at the end of the show, we got on to this   conversation on treaties in the senate. And Chris   suggested that we cover that today, and I took from his suggestion that he was gonna go and do a little bit of research, maybe a couple of the other two, and, come back and discuss it today. Chris, are you with us this morning?   Oh, Chris?  

Yeah. Oh, Chris, you okay. There you are. I thought you you would be.   Yeah, man. Well,   have you you put put any thought or study into that since yesterday? And let us know what you got because this this is a really interesting topic. Okay?   And and don't forget, we got Brent we got Brent on tomorrow, so we can also query him on this tomorrow. So, what what what's your feelings on this,  

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Chris? Well, yesterday,   it was brought up about the ducks, the the Canadian Talk right Chris. Chris, talk right into the microphone.   Okay. I'm try I'm trying to do that. There was a   discussion about the ducks  

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that people in Missouri, I believe, couldn't hunt. Oh, yeah. The the the yeah. The migratory bird tree.  

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Right. Right. Right. Okay. That's an example right there because that's unconstitutional.  

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Well, it's been holding   excuse me. It's been holding since,   I think that was back at the early turn of last century, and I believe it was,   I believe that case went to the Supreme Court, but I just I I I'm pretty sure it did and that they agreed with it. But go ahead.  

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Well, I didn't analyze that case, but I would expect that if it was an international treaty that that's why. Because an international treaty can supersede the constitution   as long as it does you know, it's not it's not supposed to take any of our rights away, but that one does.  

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Well, it does in the extent that you can't you can't go out there and slaughter   a hundred geese.   You know, that kind of stuff. I think it puts limits on it.  

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But but go ahead. Can I just get can I go hunt the Canadian geese?  

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Well, if you go get you gotta go get a license and all that stuff in states, but, yeah, you still can.  

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Okay. Okay. Okay. So so what did the treaty take away?  

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It took away, you know, down because I went to school in Louisiana.   And, you know, a lot of those coonies down there, those Cajuns like to hunt that duck.   And back around the turn of the century, what they were doing was down there in the Bayous, Louisiana.   This this case, the migratory bird thing was   over something in Arkansas, but it's in that flyway where those birds fly south,   for the for the winter.   And down there in Louisiana, before there were any limits, they'd take a pee row. You know what a pee row is, Chris? It's a little boat that, that they go around the bayou on, and they would take and put a four gauge shotgun   and tie it and mount it on the first on the front of that boat,   and and and they just go out there and slaughter thousands of of geese and ducks.  

And and that is a little bit wholesale waste and slaughter to me.  

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Oh, yeah. That's terrible. It's   they've done that with many animals. We have some extinct because of Sure.  

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Right. And and this treaty   put limit well, let me just finish. That treaty put limits on stuff like that. So in in essence, that from that perspective was good, I think.  

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Yeah. I'm I'm not saying it's bad. I'm I'm saying it can be good. It can be necessary.   And the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo, for example, that settled   the Mexican American conflict,   the the Mexican government   wanted to   give their people that were up here in the Southwest territory   complete freedom on their land.   Total freedom on their land. Basically a local title   and our Congress did not want to agree with that   but they did   because at the same time,   Spain was building a new armada   to come back and retake that area.   And we had to come to some agreement   in order to be able to prevent that which is and so our Congress said, okay, fine.  

We'll give it to them. So the land patent in America says that the patentee   shall have the free use of the land   and their ends and assigns   forever   And we use that treaty all the time and we are successful all the time   because of those beautiful words.  

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Right.  

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And, so I'm not against an international treaty. It can be a good thing.   You know, I mean, we should have those property rights in America anyway. We're supposed to have them anyway.   But in the Southwest Territory,   it's clarified   and in writing   in that document, the Treaty of Guadalupe.  

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Well, we used to have a student we used to have a student from Las Vegas, Chris Cave, who's unfortunately,   died in the COVID thing.   But he used that, and he had a loyal title on a peace property   in Arizona.   And he got into a, a urinating match with him, and he won.   And they had to pave the road all the way out to his property was the settlement   and the remedy.   There's another one. Here's another one for you. Yeah. Pardon me? You'd like to what? Yeah. I would like to learn more about that case.   Well, I don't know anything about it, and he's dead. So, you know, good luck.   The, Social Security.  

When Roosevelt first started tried to float Social Security, it was turned down by the Congress,   and he got Social Security passed in a international treaty. I remember John telling us that in in class.   So,   but I wanna know the principle of   a treaty being confirmed by the senate and its limitations because   people say it overrides the constitution, but yet I've heard other people say that it has to be   in in adherence with the constitution,   whatever the treaty is. So I don't really have a specific answer, and and we can discuss it. If any of you in the audience have got any insights on that, I'd love to hear what you got.   But, I've always thought, as I mentioned yesterday,   that they the seventeenth amendment were is senators are elected   as opposed to being appointed by the state legislature   to represent them in DC.  

That that is one of the underlying reasons that these guys did that is because the senate   ratifies all treaties,   and it's the only body that does.   And so I've never heard anybody else mention that at least in connection   with the seventeenth amendment, but I think that was part of their thinking here.   Sever states' rights in Washington   and then also have,   popularly elected where we could give them money and get them elected so that they do our bidding if any of these things came up. And there's been a couple that have been very close.   Last year, they were trying to pass all this WHO stuff where they could come in and mandate vaccinations and stuff to all these countries.  

Okay? Well, here's our protection   is because if they agree with that and even if the senate passed that treaty, Chris,   it's gotta be administrated by agencies, and they don't have any control over us.  

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Yeah. That's true. That's true. Okay. Yeah. I understand. Still got a very  

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we got a very strong hole card here,   and most of them don't know anything about it. And,   but that's our position. Okay. Okay. Mandate whatever you want. Doesn't apply to me.   What's your comment? True.  

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Yeah. Yeah. That that's true. And and everything's gotta be passed. Any any treaty has to be passed by a two thirds vote.  

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I thought it was two thirds. Yeah.  

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Yeah. Two thirds. Yes.  

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And they don't do it very often or at least you don't hear about it very often to my knowledge, but I know it's   sitting out there. And,   this could have some importance. Let me query the audience here, Chris. Has anybody got any input on this for us?  

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Roger.  

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Yes. That's Larry. He's always got input. Yeah.  

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Yeah. I wanna see what AI had to say about this subject.   Oh, it's  

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Larry. You're not Larry. Who are you? Is Alan?  

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No. This is Larry.  

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Oh, I did. Okay. That's your voice sounded different. Okay. What did AI   which one did you query? Okay. Chat, PT, GPG? Google's  

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AI. Google's AI.   Okay. It says treaties can't override the constitution, but they can be supreme law of the land   when made under the authority of The United States. Treaties are subject to constitutional limitations.   And then I thought   this point was interesting under the explanation   that says treaties can't override the first eight amendments of the Bill of Rights   or other specific   exceptions to federal authority.  

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Wow.   They cannot,   it says.   They cannot override the first eight. That's right. They can't override  

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the first eight.  

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Wow. Okay.   Cool. Well, there's I guess if you wanna believe,   Google's,   chat, AI, then I think that's a very correct answer, by the way, Larry. Thank you for getting that. And that's kind of what I've always heard   that they have an effect, but they can't override the constitutional protections.   Now it's a whole horse of a different color   when you're talking about the surf population, though, isn't it?   Isn't it?   It doesn't apply to the surfs,   does it?   That applies to us.   That's correct. They've got privileges.   So for them, it's,   it's open season. You know?  

Did you Larry Jefferson?   I can't remember that guy, that cartoonist name, but he was real good. And and it was the the one that always I remember is there's a deer there underneath the tree. There's two deer.   And,   the on the tree,   the sign says,   opening day of deer season.   And   one of the deer has got a bull's eye on his chest. Right?   And the other deer turns to him and goes, that sure is a bummer of a birthmark.   I think Gary Larson was that was that guy   kinda like that.   Larry, you said, did I I drive you away with my terrible joke or what?  

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No. No. That was funny.   Can you explain to the audience and to Chris, you've gone over this several   times in the past over the years.   Of course, a US citizen   has privileges under the fourteenth Amendment,   but   you have also thought that   a U. S. Citizen has limited access to the Bill of Rights. That's why   they could still possess a firearm.  

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However, they have to get a permit. Can you go over that again, please? Well, yeah. Well, what are they trying to do right now? They're trying to take away the big one and censor everybody. Right? What about my freedom of speech? Well,   tough you know what they say in the Russian marines. Right, Larry?   So,   that's kind of that way, and that's they're trying to do it. Look, that's the big fight with Europe.   By the way,   yesterday,   I I mentioned yesterday   the interview with   the guy from Romania   that got elected and they took away the presidency, said it was Russian influence.   Remember that? Two days ago? Well, he got arrested and that right after that interview, they arrested him.  

We might have mentioned it yesterday. They pulled him over in traffic   going to register for the next election   and put him in jail, and they've charged him with crimes against humanity and antisemitism   and   every hobgoblin   damn charge they can drum up and hang on him. That's all happened right now. Well, that's a little bit of censoring, isn't it, Larry?   Well, see, that's what JD Vance is saying. Say, we've split from you guys. You're censoring. You're getting people that are legitimately   elected. You're telling them they didn't make it. You're throwing them in jail. You're doing all this other stuff, and we're not along the same lines as we used to be. Well, that's one thing they're infringing on. How about number two? Yep.   Shall not be infringed. Well,   in having to go buy something from a licensed dealer   and getting some kind of a check-in that and infringement, Larry?  



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Absolutely.  

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Well, there's another example. I know there's others. I remember   where I really got insight into this   was from Devin's work in that little handbook,   the hand handbook for nationals, that 70 something page,   document that he put together. And he's the one that came in there and identified the,   I and I can't remember it off the top of my head, but all of these things there's a couple of those bill of rights they don't have access to at all.   I think seven through 10,   including anything not,   covered by the feds, reverts to the states, all that kind of stuff. They don't get access to any of that   according to Devin's research.  

I'd never come up on that before, but I'd realized it from the two examples that I just gave you.   See, they've got to recognize it to some degree   so that they can feed you the illusion.   The illusion that you're still under that constitution.   So that's what's going on, Larry, that I've been able to identify. At least I think it is.   But, that answers the question in short order on the,   on the treaties and the constitution. They can take effect and they can change things, but they can't override the constitution.   Well,   except for maybe   fourteenth amendment citizens.  

And, of course, nobody knows that information,   so we don't have any kind of opinion from somebody else that can bear on what we do here. We're we're very special folks.   We have got our hands squarely around reality,   and there's very few people in the world other than us that do.   They think they do,   but almost every country on the globe is covered by this. And here's the question. If you think of countries under this scheme,   do they issue bonds?   If so, what's the collateral?   Do they issue bonds into the international debt market?   And if so, what's the collateral?  

So,   anyway oh, anybody got anything they'd like to add to that?   Is there anybody are we still on the air?  

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Roger.  

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There's Joan. Yes. We are. Hey, Joanie.  

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Hey.   Yeah. The how does that saying go that you say a lot and a lot of people on here say,   we don't have   constitutional   rights. We have god given rights  

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protected by the constitution. Well, that's well, that's something I'll hit Jeff Rents with next week because I've heard him say it. Well, people and you see, I hear Barnes say it. I hear all the finest attorneys,   even the ones on our side, say it, talk show host. My they're not gonna infringe on my constitutional rights. Right?   Well, what I ask is this. What rights does that document give you, Joan?  

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Okay. Please answer that question yourself.  

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Well, they they only give you civil rights under the fourteenth amendment.   Okay.   Otherwise, the document gives you no rights. All it does is protect your god given rights. It gives you protection,   not capital r rights. Those come from god. The other people that are still in a condition of servitude   have constitutional   rights that come from the fourteenth amendment. They're called civil rights.   And if you really wanna get into that a little bit deeper under the great heading of rights, there's two subheadings.   One is political rights and the other civil rights. The civil rights that the fourteenth gives you is your rights among the other people in the society.  

Okay?   And that gives you the normalcy that everything's normal, but it's not.   Okay? And the other ones are the, God given,   rights, which are constitutionally protected.   So,   it it it's amazing to me that here see what we can take let's take that and refine it down another step.   So the lesson to be learned is don't speak in generalities,   speak with specificity.   Because what they do is set us up. And I was guilty. You know, yesterday, we got in a some kind of a conversation on the Jews. And and I'm very guilty of painting that with too wide a brush.   Okay? A very generalized   applies to all of them. It doesn't. There's a lot of nice Jewish folks out there. There's a lot of Jewish folks that are on our side, and they understand what these people are doing.  

But you you've gotta come in, and I should be more conscious of this myself   and be more specific   when I say Jews,   the Revelation two and three nine variety.   Well, now that's very specific,   okay, and not general. And that's what they do is they set us up with generalities,   and then they come in and zap us with specificities.   Are you a citizen of The United States? Yeah. Oh, well, that means you're not any of these other things. We're gonna consider you a serf.   So they set you up with a general   idea, and then they come back and zap you with these technicalities   and very things that are extremely   specific.  

Does that answer your question, John?  

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How does the constitution   protect the god given rights?  

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Well, the the right   the second amendment's a good one. The right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.   But that means when it was written by the framers,   that meant it wasn't for duck hunting   like the migratory bird treaty.   It was for going against the government when they tried to become tyrannical.   And so,   technically,   now that you're a national, Joan,   if you wanted to, you could go out and buy a hundred and a 55 millimeter   howitzer cannon   and put it in your backyard.   There's no limitations   on what we   can purchase because we were supposed to be able to get the same type of arms that the government that was be gonna be tyrannical   and trying   to entrap us would have so that we could defeat them.  

So we could be on an equal playing field.   Hey, Raj. So yes. Yeah. Yes, Paul.  

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All we gotta do is find somebody that's willing to sell it to us. And,   to answer Joan's question,   the constitution   protects your god given rights through limitation   of government. Government. The handcuffs that it puts on the administrative   state.  

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Shall not be infringed. You you've got the right to remain silent. It's limitations on the government against you.  

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Roger.  

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Yes. Well, there yes.   Hold on. Let's get Joan. Yes, ma'am.  

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What about the supremacy clause that has, the feds have   control over all the people in all the states and all the bill of rights?  

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Well, they do. And well, they do unless you tell the secretary of state they don't.   You've told them they got access to do that your whole life.   Every time they ever asked you the questions, you answered yes and signed something, didn't you?  

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Yes.  

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Okay. Thank you. Joan, you're the one that gave him the the permission to do all this to you.  

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Okay. Thanks.  

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Alright. Larry.  

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Yeah. I think a lot of a lot of people, including lawyers like,   Barnes,   use the phrase constitutional   rights because   it's mentioned   numerous times in court rulings   by the Supreme Court, even the justices   use that phrase.   And so the people think, including the attorneys,   well, if the justice is using that phrase, it must be a correct phrase.  

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I don't differ. I don't disagree with you at all on that, Larry. But, man, I'd love to ask Clarence Thomas what exact what rights exactly does that document convey to me?   Because see, there are no rights involved in it except civil rights under the fourteenth amendment.   Otherwise, it never gives you any rights. God gives you those and the the document protects them.   So, even our finest attorneys that sit on the Supreme Court don't understand the difference in that.   Well, I tell you what, I know Clarence Thomas does.   Okay? Because I heard him at the, they have occasionally. You can find this on the web.  

It's on YouTube somewhere.   And they have at Harvard,   the prestigious   Harvard Law School,   they have Supreme Court justices come up there and talk to the, law students.   And they had Clarence Thomas up there. It's a delightful   interview. If you really wanna get an insight into Clarence,   go go find that video and watch it. He's just a superb human being.   Somebody I really, really admire   of a the classic example of what America somebody can do in America is Clarence Thomas.   Grew up in a a dirt floor house school by his grandfather   and makes it to the, to the Supreme Court,   in the illustrious things that he's contributed to.  

Just a really, really good guy.   But,   now I've gotten off in a lost where I was.   So, anyway, no. This I was just talking about him at I was talking about him at Harvard. I got it. Okay? So he was up there, and they the students can ask him questions.   And towards the end, when the question thing, he said, well, how do you determine   something that's common law versus administrative?   Well, that's a pretty   pointed question, isn't it?   And he said, well,   if it's something that's administrative,   we might   have to sneak around and go back and look at the original intent of the legislation,   which is the only way you can overturn some of that. It used to be.  

So client what what did Clarence tell us from that answer?   He knows damn well there's two different bodies going on here.   Now when he swore in Amy Cohen and Barrett   in Trump's last term that in the Rose Garden that night, and I've seen his swearing in   by George w Bush, I believe,   a bikini bump port or somewhere.   And both of them swear to uphold the laws of The United States   and not The United States Of America, and that's in the oath they were taking.   So I   he knows the difference.   He he admitted in that answer, and that's something if you wanna look that up, Clarence Thomas, speaks at Harvard Law School,   it it's well worth watching if you like if you like him or want some insight into him. And the unfortunate thing is   he may be retiring.  

He may be you see, the the conservative justices on the court right now,   they know if they retire   that,   they know. I don't know about Amy, Conan, Bryant,   but at least there's a conservative   president in effect right now, and they would probably get a conservative   justice to replace them.   And so you may see some of these guys like Clarence and Alito.   I'm not sure how old Gorsuch is and Alito,   but you may see some of the serve,   conservatives,   retiring so that Trump will have an opportunity to replace him. Now they've got one that crazy ass woman from Harvard.   I can't even remember her name.  

They say she's going, like, senile   and that she walks around the Supreme Court talking to herself and stuff.   And she may be forced off in Trump's term here, and she's one of the real liberals, and I just can't remember.   It's not Jackson. It's one of the ones that was   I think she was at Harvard before, actually.   But, anyway, with that so that may be some exciting   things, in the Supreme Court because last time, Trump had two shots at it in his last term,   and both of them have kinda turned out to be duds, unfortunately.   And that is because according to Barnes,   that he was taking suggestions from   I can't remember the organization.  

Federalist Society,   I think,   and, that they were feeding him shills.   And Amy Conan Bryant has really turned out to be a disappointment   to the court watchers.  

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Roger.  

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Yes,  

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Larry.   Yes. Did you,   did you hear about this,   this comedian,   John   Oliver?   Last year, he, he's a late night   talk show host and the article says this,   the late night   talk show host John Oliver, and this is from February   2024,   has offered to pay Clarence Thomas   one million dollars annually as well as give him a $2,000,000   tour bus if the Republican judge resigns from the U. S. Supreme Court.   Oliver made the proposal on Sunday's episode of his HBO show   last week tonight saying the Supreme Court justice   had thirty days to accept it or it would expire. And it was it was a serious offer too.  

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Well, I'd love to get him off the court. I don't think he's gonna take one like that. I don't believe that those things like that are very important to him. He's got he he's gonna do real well when he gets off the court. I doubt if he needs money now, quite frankly.  

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Right. It was just showing how desperate these people are to get him out of there. Oh, yeah. He's a he's just a  

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you know, man, I just love the guy. I'd like to go just give him a big hug.   I I I just love him. His documentary   and, of course, you you guys probably most of you hadn't lived in Georgia. Pinpoint   is not too far above you there, Larry, on Jacksonville up the coast a ways around Savannah.   Born and raised in Pinpoint, Georgia.   Makes it all the way to the Supreme Court. Good for you, Clarence.   Good for you, ma'am. That reminds me  

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that reminds me. Did y'all hear   that Barack and Michael Michelle   Obama are getting a divorce?  

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Well, I did not. Haven't heard that yet.   But,   mister Obama may be in some real deep caca here pretty quick the way things are going out of the DOJ.   They're going after Comey   big time first   because he's the one that spearheaded all this, and that'll lead to both of them. It'll lead to Hillary, and it'll lead to the Obamas too on the other side.   But, they're going after Comey evidently with both feet.   So we'll see. There is gonna be indictments,   and there is gonna be,   repercussions   for these people for some of them. Obviously, not all of them. They don't have enough time to go after all of them or enough staff to investigate it, but they'll go after some of the high profile ones.   And then you the other people's thinking they're coming after them next start rolling over and giving names and and doing all that stuff. So we're right at the front end of that, but I would imagine it may be already happening, actually.  

K.   Oh, who else? Let's see. We got   k. We got a couple of minutes till Paul needs to say goodbye to I think we're on both England and, Chicago today. Aren't we, Paul?   I think so. Yeah. We're everywhere. We're literally everywhere. Yeah. Like, we're chicken man.   Yeah. We'll be sure and tell Paul the good news there when you speak with him later.  

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I will do.  

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So,   who else has got something here this morning, please?  

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George Idaho.  

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Hey, George. How are you doing this morning?  

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It's good. Doing very well. Nice and sunny here. 40 four. Gonna see Woah.   Yeah.   And if you ever That's unseasoned. Pretty good.  

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That's unseasonable   for you guys, isn't it?  

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A little bit. Yeah.   Okay. If we ever do need to go to get warmer, we just go down to Lewis and Clarkston because that's where the Columbia River is, the gorge there. And a lot usually 10 degrees warmer. Wow. So, it's a little season like spring.   Good. I was   mentioning Obama,   the mention of Obama reminded me of the kind of that whole   birth certificate thing that remember that whole deal that went on with whatever.  

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Sure.  

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And, I came across a document which I thought was interesting.   It's called, it's got dashes in between all the words, but what is a birth certificate dot pdf?   And   it's interesting,   they've got two columns like the live birth record,   and they actually use the word national.   So they call it, national, elector,   grantor, executor,   creditor,   unlimited,   abode,   remuneration,   location.   And then in the birth certificate side, so that's like the live birth record or the title created by our life, you know, our baby born   is in doubt. And then they've got the title that got created by the state, which is the first you're just getting. Those words Right. Debtor,   trustee,   taxpayer,   resident,   voter, limited,   resident,   income, address. So I thought that was Yeah. Interesting. What it It is. That's   kind of putting, you know, kind of what is a national  

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yield. It's that's quite insightful, isn't it?   Yes. The birth certificate is quite interesting, and I've just kinda learned a little bit about it as we go forward.   John is the one that floated that that he thought it was being used as a warehouse receipt.   And like I've said, I've never heard any John say anything like that that didn't pan out to be true. K?   And so it's obvious that's what they are using it as,   and, attaching it to the bonds and the bond market.   Hey, Roger. So good find, George.   Yes, Annette.  

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Can George say where he's  

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his site from? Where where is he citing that from? Oh, okay. Well, you wanna give that site again something PDF, George?  

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Sure. It's, I think if you just type in,   what is a birth certificate   and it's,   it's got dashes between all those separate words, so it's not like all one word. So what dash is dash,   dash   birth dash certificate   dot pdf.  

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Thank you.  

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Okay, George. Now when you say dash between words, is there a space between the word and the dash, or are they right next to each other with a dash between two words?  

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Right. It's kinda like a URL.   So it's what and then that dash,   that's on your keyboard, and then is and then dash. So there's no spaces no spaces. Oh, okay. I got that, but I'm still not getting is it what space dash  

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or what dash?   Is there a space in there on each side?   Okay. What dash? There's no space on either side of the dashes.   There, Annette,   and audience, and Paul   should be hearing that whistling and just beating it to the microphone right now. There he is out of breath. Go ahead, Paul. Feet. That's what I'm doing. One zero six point nine WVOU  

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There you go. Thanks.   Yikes.   Oh, Paul English. What a   what a wonderful gift that guy is.  

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What a treat.  

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Yep. Babe amen. Amen.   So,   where else and now we're in the second hour here. So we got a a little bit of an hour. What other comments or questions do you have on what we've been talking about? Anybody?   Nope.   Okay. Well, it must be pretty understandable for everyone then.   Well, there's someone right there. Yes, sir. Hello? Yeah. Starts George again.   Oh, George. Yeah. Skewed  

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yes. You mentioned John,   a lot. And was he one of your mentors?  

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Or He was my law teacher.   He was my law teacher, John w John w Benson.   And, very Okay.   He's a really interesting guy, George. He's a really, really,   devout Mormon.   And,   his whole life,   and he loved the law. He's   he liked law.   And he went to one year of law school. I'm not sure where.   But,   after that, he just studied on his own the whole time. And,   he would   go he had one of his students   had a,   he was a fly a pilot for United,   and he had the London route.   And so when you have one of those big international routes,   they give you an extra day off before you fly back. So you fly over, you get the next day off, the next day you fly back. And he would take those days off and go to bookstores in London   and bring back all these old English books. So John never really studied   from a law school necessarily   here, although he did utilize them, of course.  

But his he was in the a renaissance man. I mean, this guy lived his life in the in the renaissance, in the feudal system.   References to it, everything we did was referenced around it, and he understood that very well, and   he made the connection for me. So that was,   that was my experience, and I'm so fortunate because what we found out, George,   and been able to surmise, if you will,   they've been in control of our all of our colleges and university law schools   for at least a hundred years.   Now   you say, how do I know that?   Because in that book that we've talked about this week, the congressional the collective speeches of Louis t McFadden,   that I urge all of you if you've got time and you, like, wanna learn about that from that basis   and that perspective, boy, that's the book to read.  

That's where I got this. And in one of the excerpts from his speeches that I put in my book,   it was talking about in 1933   how the American Association of Colleges and Law Schools   changed their annual convention. And I don't know when it normally is,   but it's normally not   New Year's Eve in Chicago.   So they moved their annual convention of the American Association of of of University and Law Schools   to Chicago   on New Year's Eve.   And what   McFadden   said   was so that the little Jew,   Jacob   Frank, I believe,   from the Department of Agriculture   could come and give his speech   entitled experimental   jurisprudence   and the New Deal.  

So I started thinking about that. I looked up the American Association of Colleges and Law Schools online, and I wrote them an email and said, you you moved your your annual convention in 1933   to the New Year's Eve on Chicago.   Oh, have you have you ever done that before or anything like that? Well, obviously, I never got an answer from them.   But, my speculation is they probably don't have that convention in Chicago on New Year's Eve.   So they moved that convention.   So this they had control of this organization back in in the thirties, late twenties and thirties, and they moved that convention   so this guy could come in and give that speech. You know, they always have to tell you what they're doing to you.  

Well, I was mentioning this one day, with Al Ladask when I was on the air with Al,   and Al, went and found it. You can search it up. Experimental   jurisprudence   and the new deal. We read part of it here on the show one day. I think Paul did.   And Al had us comment on that was he said, Roger, that's the most damning   document I've ever seen from the federal government.   So if you wanna see   them telling you what they're going to do   a hundred years ago or so, pardon me,   Go find that speech, experimental jurisprudence in the New Deal, and go read it.   Well, he talks about, oh, the progressives.  

Oh, they're here burning the midnight oil. It's all the old fuddy duddies   that, like, used to be loyal to that constitution   idea. Well, they go home at 05:00 on Friday. It's the it's all these progressives   that stay in and burn the midnight oil.   That kind of garbage. Okay?   But that's what it was. And I think that I can't prove it. But it sure seems to me that they had control over the organization   and of American colleges, universities, and law schools. And and guess what else the that organization   does? It, like, dictates   curriculum and stuff, George.  

You wanna know why these lawyers don't know any of this stuff?   That's why.  

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That makes sense. Yep.   The,   did, John Benson,   did he write anything or,   published it off as pre Internet or Well, yes. Yes. He did.  

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John was John's   talent was researching   and not necessarily writing. And that's where Glenn comes in because Glenn has edited   all of our books. Okay? Glenn is a brilliant writer. He was my other teacher.   They were   they started this whole thing when John   found in the regulations   where you could change status   and go back and apply for three years that you filed and get that money back.   Now, unfortunately,   they were so focused on taxes   that they didn't have the piece that I brought to the picture, which is, yeah, you gotta change status, but you can only do it with one guy.   See, they would have us file our affidavits,   and there's a copy of mine in the back of my book. There's five pages long, a lot of court sites and excerpts,   but we would file those in the property records office   where we were either born or where we lived.  

And then we'd send the package to the IRS.   Now   the first couple of people that did that got back large checks.   And after the IRS figured out what was going on, they put a stop to that.   And by the time I got in there, which wasn't too long after they started, really,   by the time I got in there, I got three $500   frivolous filing penalties.   And those are now $5,000   frivolous filing penalties.   But, that's where all this came from.   It actually   his, airline pilot buddy   had gotten John a ticket, a a plane ticket down to Bullhead City,   Arizona.  

I guess just south of the Nevada border there or on the on the Nevada border part of the city or something.   And,   it was a traffic seminar.   And and so, Roy got John a ticket and he went, and it's there that he met Glenn.   And Glenn,   following up on this and seeing what he had,   said we can make a business out of this. And that's where everything came together. If it wouldn't have been for Glenn,   when John died, all this, information would have been in a closet stacked somewhere and probably would have gotten thrown in the trash, George.  

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And what what was Glenn's name again? Glenn?  

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Ambort,   a m b o r t. Glenn is still with us. He lives up in   North or South Dakota. I never can't remember which one,   with, around a guy and some people that he met in prison when they were in jail.   Glenn is, interestingly enough, he was adopted.   He's extremely bright.   And,   he,   finally,   had one year of UCLA law school,   but he,   I don't remember if it was before or after he went to Annapolis. He was   tapped to go to Annapolis   back in the sixties.   Yeah. George, you ever heard of a guy named Roger Staubach?  

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Oh, yeah.  

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Glenn tutored him to the Heisman Trophy.   And I know that because when our class, there was a friend of his from Annapolis   that went through it that I I became friends with, and he said, Roger, don't let Glenn feed you. Because he'll go, I helped him a little bit. He said he tutored him to the Heisman Trophy. You know, Annapolis, all the service academies,   our engineering curriculums are quite difficult.   And so Glenn, see,   and he's just that kind of guy. He got right up next to Roger and tutored him to to the Heisman Trophy and onto   a career in the NFL where   I guess he probably still holds some NFL records. I know Trump gave him the medal of honor   when he was in the first time.  

And I I wrote and sent the article to Glenn, and Glenn wrote me back and said, I wonder if Roger let me wear it for a little while.   But,  

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so I did not know that. That's great.  

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Yeah. After,   after he did his service requirements,   he got really into game theory.   I don't know if I really even know what game theory is, quite frankly. I've heard the phrase. But Glenn got into it and and,   studied that for about a year and a half, and then he went out professional gambling.   And in two years, he was barred in over 40 casinos from New Jersey throughout The Caribbean.   And I said, Glenn, well, what were you doing? Card counting?   He go, nah. Nah. Card counting's easy, man. I was doing game theory.   So he's just a hell of a guy, man. He's a he's a really   I I consider him a very obviously close friend.  

And, we don't get we don't touch up. We get exchange emails and stuff, but we don't talk very often. He doesn't want anything to do with all this.   He turned his back on it with that ninth circuit decision,   that they had with the doctor from San Diego. And he just got so frustrated. He turned his back over, and and he and John, he told me, had decided to turn everything over to me, and that's why I'm here.  

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Wow.   That's a great story. So that's,  

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Ambork, a m b o r k,  

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Lindsey? O r t t, t as in Tom.  

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Oh, okay.  

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Yeah. Hell of a guy. You can go back if you wanna go back in the archives. I'm not sure   which one it was. John will   he and I, Glenn and I both think that John did this intentionally, but he died on July.   Okay? And   I we both think that he intentionally willed himself into that.   Maybe even kept himself alive a day or two before that because he knew the significance of that day. Do you know?   Of course, not the surface significance,   but do you know the exchange between Adams and Jefferson, George? Do you know that story?  

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Yes.  

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That that's what we think he was adhering to was that. He was very well aware of that.   For those in the audience that might not know,   Adams and Jefferson were very close initially. They split philosophically,   and and and they became bitter rivals,   but they still communicated. And as they became very elderly,   they would exchange letters.   And,   they they both died on the same day. I think Jefferson died first.   And Adams in his last letter to Jefferson said, but Jefferson still outlives me, not knowing that he had already passed that morning. And then John Adams passed. They both died on July 4.   Some of you may not know that story.  



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That's the day my father died. Man.  

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Is it really?   It it's interesting because, Glenn and I did a   we did a program a couple of years ago on July 4. You could get to hear Glenn. I don't remember what year it was, but it's over in the cast box   archives for sure.   And, one thing that Glenn brought up in that program, and I I I never thought about it, but he said and Glenn was much closer to John than I was. They lived together and all that kind of stuff. We worked together and went through trials together and   fought the feds and   ended up in jail for fifteen and a half years, not total, but each.   One nine and a half for   for Glenn, and they let John out after about six,   just to get him off the street, George. It didn't have anything to do with all this.  

But, what Glenn said that day, it really struck me. I thought about it a number of times since.   And he said, you know, as long as I knew John, as close as we were and in the involvements we had together, I never heard him raise his voice   one time.   And I thought back to my exchanges with him and time I was spent with him,   and I was astounded. I never heard the guy raise his voice.   He was always just very calm.   You go, well, if that's true, then   but he never raised his voice. He was not impressive physically.   He was kind of a short   courtly kind of guy.  

But, man, when he got up on that stage to teach law,   he turned into Superman.   K?   Exceptionally,   exceptionally   talented and intelligent   individual, and he just loved the law. And and, therefore, he would bypass the law, the blockage   that they've got in law school curriculums   and go back and study all this old law. And that's how I know all this stuff. I don't wouldn't know who Gaius was   from   Adams all fox,   well, except for John Benson.   And I was really curious. And this is pretty interesting too, George,   because it goes to motivations.   You know, why do we do things? And I've thought about this a number of times.  

They they were only teaching   six months before the IRS   raided all their offices and shot them down.   Took all the computers,   all the files,   all that stuff.   And the only reason that they were able to continue   was because Glenn was in California. That's where he was raised. And he was over there doing something and he called back into the office that morning and they let one of the guys answer the phone rather than just let it ring.   And the guy talked real guarded   and Glenn could sense that there was something wrong.   And so he immediately, when they hung up, went to the bank. There's a branch of the bank they used there, and he withdrew all the money. And so they had a they had funding.  

And if the IRS would have gotten to the bank,   they probably would have been dead in the water at that point. Just one of those little quirks, you know, that is why we're here.   And,   so, that,   they came back and started fighting, and then the feds came after him. Here's what happened. They moved from they were in Vegas, the main office, and they moved back up to Salt Lake City.   And,   and then John started   running for senate against Orrin Hatch, a guy whose name we mentioned earlier this week.   He was running against Orrin Hatch, and Glenn was running against whoever was in the House of Representatives from that district.   And they were out on the campaign trail teaching all this tax stuff.  

And, buddy, that's when they evidently got   irate. They were getting those guys off the street   no matter what happened. So they came in and indicted them. They had 90 different charges against Glenn.   None of it had anything to do with this. They had been involved with a gal in doing some kind of a stock market thing out of Canada,   and,   a lot of the charges were against that. I didn't get involved in it, fortunately.   Excuse   me.   But so the feds came after him and John, and they were at the district. I I can prove to you it wasn't about anything about taxes   because the US attorney there in Salt Lake handled the prosecution.  

If you're involved in any kind of litigation on taxes with the federal government, they fly in a tax specialist from DC to handle that case.   So this is just a regular US attorney.   And so,   they get in there and they get on some kind of a point. And so John, Glenn knowing the law like he did,   and, I mean, John and Glenn being the writer that he is,   anytime anything came up, they'd appeal it to the tenth circuit. Well, we're gonna appeal this over to Denver. So they'd appeal it. They'd have to put everything in Denver on Salt Lake on the back burner, wait till the decision came back from Denver, then they'd go adjourn and start after them again and, you know, a couple of days or whatever, and there's something else that come up and they appeal it over to Denver. So it took them five years to get them and find them guilty. Okay?   But, finally, they did.  

The,   the judge said,   told Glenn, he said, I think you're the spark plug of this, so I'm gonna give you extra time. So that was the differential   between six and nine and a half.   And they also said something very interesting that Glenn told me. I've mentioned it on here before.   The US attorney got up in open court out there in Salt Lake City   and pulled up the affidavit,   and he made the statement in open court that the IRS   had received over 100,000   of them.   There was only 1,200 people that paid to go through the course.   So if you wanna see the Patriot community,   that's   I just pull the wool off the Patriot community right there for you. 1,200   people paid to go through the course and do it, and the IRS received   over a hundred thousand of them.  



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What year was that, Roger?  

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I would have been in the nineties.   Late nineties.  

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Yeah. So it's You know, another man who just recently  

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Go go ahead, Nolan.   I was just gonna say I was gonna chime Well, I was just gonna tell you all that you you have no idea of the sacrifices   and what has been paid for us to get to this point. And this very morning to get an invitation to be on Jeff Rents and that massive audience of intellectuals oriented people. I mean, there's been a lot of water under the bridge for us to get here.   Go ahead, George.  

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Yeah. Another man who just recently passed was, Hartford Van Dyke. Did you ever know of Hartford?  

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I know of him very much. Yes. Yes. Out in Oregon Oregon or Washington somewhere. Yeah. He was a very common name in the patriot community back in the nineties. I don't remember all the stuff he did. I think it was something with lanes and this, that, and the other. But, yeah, I'm sorry to hear that he passed and,   you know, his, his contribution is much appreciated.   See, all of us that get on air and do this, we have to sacrifice to do this, folks,   especially not now in the Trump regime, but previously.   You you had to make a sacrifice to do this because most people had no idea what we know. They're doing the wrong stuff. They're gonna get bounced. They're gonna get hit with the IRS. There's gonna be businesses lost, divorces,   suicides.  

Yeah. You just name it. All of it's been done before. The sacrifices that have been made for us to get here and this wonderful little gem of truth   that we have a monopoly on evidently.   So  

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Yeah. I don't know if it was his,   original work, but he,   in one of his hartfordvandyke.com,   they've got,   basically the Gettysburg Address up there as a public trust format that Hartford put together and then he's got the Lord's Prayer and trust format also. So it's interesting to see   what our founders and all the great men   before us had in mind.   And then like you're saying, how it could be perverted or a parallel system put up that  

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is in commerce or whatever and and makes people into chattel, you know? So Yeah. Well, they see that here's their limitations. They they want you to believe that they're all powerful and all omnipotent.   Well, they're not.   Okay. That's a that's a facade. That's an illusion.   And,   it it's just unbelievable how many people bite into that. I mean, I understand   why now,   and I was a I was a victim of it too.   But,   it's just so powerful what we've got here, George.   I don't remember everything that Hart,   mister Van Dyke did,   but I remember his name. Certainly, a lot of people were following his work.  

A   lot of great people that have demised here   and gone   to whatever their ends are without knowing the truth, and I'd like to alleviate that   if possible.   Now not every everybody's never gonna agree on this, and I understand that.   But I also know it's never been rebutted, and it's never been denied,   and nobody's ever said you're going to jail because you're claiming to be this.   And I understand how it works and why it works, and they do too.   The good news is they do too, George.   So, we've caught the little bastards with their greedy little hands, feet, and proboscis   in the cookie jar.  

Now the bad part is,   and I just heard this this morning,   A 20   IRS service centers around the country are being closed.   So now one of our best recruiters   is about to go down, and that's IRS, and   I'll be happy and sad at the same time on that.   But, yeah, I heard Harrison,   announce this morning.   Trump put out they're closing a 20 service centers around the country.   So Trump's moving fast, man.   So anybody got any comments on that? George, you got any follow-up on that?   No. No?  

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I have a question.  

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Okay, Paul. Good.  

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I was talking I was talking to somebody the other day.   We're talking about the the IRS being shut down and things like that, and   they were saying,   that's Trump doing that.   That's Trump doing that, and and they're doing that because,   they're tired of the people paying taxes and all that stuff, and they're they're gonna let,   tariffs take care of it. Well,   my thought on that is   is it's entirely possible with the   with the rapidly expanding movement of revocation of election and people bowing out of the tax system   and people losing their jobs and not having an income, so they have to file taxes.  

It's entirely possible that the tariff   is to shift the burden of funding   through taxation   from direct and income taxes   to indirect   in sales taxes   because the tariff is gonna increase the price   of the products that are imported into the country.   The   the distributors and retailers are gonna   increase the price to make up for that tariff,   and the people are gonna be paying   sale price and I commensurate higher   sales tax   rate. So   Well. It's taking   the income taxes   and because there's people not paying them   through   using their own system   and shifting the burden   on tariffs and then all the way through to the end consumer.  



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Well, the tariffs, if you remember, from 1870   to 1913,   our country was the wealthiest it has ever been because of tariffs.   That's all changed when they took the tariffs away, and I referenced that cartoon   that I saw from the eighteen seventies   where it was a sketch of the senate and the well of the senate, and in the well of the senate was all these alligators.   And the caption was that they were had so much money from tariffs that they were afraid it was gonna corrupt the senate.   Okay? So,   it's a very viable way of doing that. Yes, the prices will go up,   for a short time with most of them   because the people that are being affected by that   will most likely try and shift their manufacturing   to avoid the tariffs   back into The US.  

So now all these hundred hundreds of thousands of government workers that Trump   is firing are gonna have to go out and find a legitimate job, and that's part of the things they're gonna provide it is the shifting of manufacturing back to The US. It's already happening.   Japan's gonna put   $2,000,000,000   worth of investments   in car manufacturing here. And, Apple   is moving   all of the AI stuff from China back here.   So it's already happening. K?   Right.   So I I see the tariffs as a very good move.   And and also because what has happened evidently, and I heard some folks talking about this, is when we used to have the manufacturing,   then that's value added and everything was internal.  

As they started moving   in the eighties   I was teaching. No. In the nineties.   They went through free trade, NAFTA, and all that stuff. And then there was a guy.   What was his name?   Junk bond king.   Who was the junk bond? Michael Milken.   My remember that name, Paul?   No. Michael Milken?   Oh, he's one of these Wall Street guys, and he came up with junk bonds.   Well, what are junk bonds?   That are bonds that are paying exceedingly   high   interest rate return on investment   for short term money. And what he was doing was he was raising a bunch of money with short term bonds,   and then he would go attack a company.  

And he'd strip all the valuables off the country, take it over. He'd strip all the valuables   away from the company, like your pension and stuff, and then they'd move it to China. And then they came back as the   as it was being imported back into The US, and they're the middlemen.   And they were taking and doing that arbitrage   and making all the money as a middleman,   bringing the product that used to be manufactured   in The United States. I'm gonna give you an example in just a second and bring it back and sell it here. Now does anyone know what company they attacked first in that?   Anybody when Michael Milken and his junk bonds   went after American companies to strip them down, take all the wealth, and then export them to China so they could reimport those things cheap, and they're in the middle and the middle man making all the profits   now, which is what they've been doing. Does anybody know the company that they used as an example   on that?  



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Nobody? WorldCom?  

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Nope.   Mister Coffee.   Remember Joe DiMaggio and mister Coffee?   That was the first one they went after.   They take over the company. They go in, fire all the employees. They strip all the wealth out of it, including the pension funds, and then ship the company to China. We're a cheap arbitrage country for labor.   So that's what the whole Michael Milken and junk bond things was.   And he got convicted of something on that, and he can't participate in the stock market anymore. Although I'll bet you a dollar to a doughnut, he still does.   And, bet you a dollar to a Krispy Kreme doughnut, Paul.  

And, Yeah. So that would that was happening back in the day. Donuts.   Well, I I've got some I've got one over there, but I'm gonna have it as small. Oh,   okay.   So, it's gonna go in for the rest of the class. It's gotta go in the microwave for a couple of seconds first. Yes. Who's the Oh, no.  

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It's Larry. Okay. Larry.   Yes.   Regarding Apple,   says, this is the, from the New York Times, Apple vows to build   AI servers in Houston and spend $500,000,000,000   in U. S. The company pledged a multi billion dollar investment over the next four years   and said it would create 20,000 jobs.   The Texas facility   set to open in 2026.  

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Yep. There you go, Paul. So there's a perfect example. Apple bringing it back 20,000 new jobs, and they're bringing back the IAI facilities and gonna put in several places around the country too. I think not only Texas, I think they're putting one of them up in Michigan. So he's trying to get the employment up in Michigan   so he can although I think he won Michigan in the last election, but to try and overtake   the the the   the girl, the vegetarian   squad is running that state right now.   Christine,   whatever her name is. You got the secretary of state is another female and that that, Jew attorney general. They're all vegetarians.   So, anyway, there's a perfect example of that working, Paul, of the tariffs working.  

And now seeing now the new world order gets cut out of the middlemen thing.   They're not Hi, Roger. Share high. The lion's share of the profits   by reimporting   things that arbitrage a cheap labor that they they see, China charges us tariffs, but they can bring all that crap in in free trade with no tariffs.   So this it's just the the   unequalibrium   of trade   because these guys are the merchants of the earth, and they know how to do it and rig it in their favor. And that's what's happened, and Trump's tearing it down left and right. Yes, ma'am. Who is the lady there?  

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Robbie.  

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Robbie. Well, hello, Robbie. How are you?  

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Fine.   I wanted to congratulate you, and,   I think I sent emails to Jeff the last time you requested from that other email address.   But, anyway, I just wanted to remind you, you probably know this.   Jeff Rentz is a rabid   anti Trump Trumper,   and I listened from time to time. I happened to listen last night. He had   Gary Holland   who apparently is a regular there,   and they did a complete   tear down   of Trump from beginning to end.   And they mentioned   so I'm just letting reminding you   in case that subject comes up. But Yeah. Well, I I'm sure it'll come up.   They did mention,   Trump's new gold card, which apparently is something to do with   people that want to pass   any,   citizenship   qualifications.  

If you pay $5,000,000,   you can become a citizen.   So that leads all to all kinds of questions and ramifications.   But,   I do I do appreciate   about Jeff that,   he does have   similar perspectives as many of us on the,   Jewish problem, the Zionist   problem,   and the fact that he has David Duke,   I really appreciate him.   But, I am much,   much, much more in agreement   with Rents   about Trump,   than you are. Thank you. Okay. Well, that's fair enough.  

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Okay. Well,   Robin, who else do you suggest that we could maybe get into that office? Do you got any suggestions? They're not gonna let they're not gonna let anybody in that position  

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that isn't gonna play their game. And, also, Jeff has mentioned,   how sickened he was to see Trump come behind   BB and seat him. He calls him BB's butler   and also mentioned that that, Trump has the collar and BB has the leash.   Well So, no, they won't let anybody in that position.  

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Maybe I can enlighten Jeff a little bit as to why they have that amount of control because he doesn't know. K?  

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And Well, I think whether Jeff gets your point, gets your message or not,   don't get too distracted by anything is my point. Get that message out there. And even if Jeff doesn't hear it,  

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hopefully, many of his listeners will. And, we'll be praying for you, Raj. Well, of course. I mean, that's the object, and I think you'll get it. He's a bright guy.   And,   you know, if you can criticize anybody, but look,   there's there's an old Middle East thing, Robin, that says the enemy of my enemy is my friend.   Okay?   Somebody   tried to assassinate him twice.  

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Got it?  

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Somebody tried to assassinate him twice.   So he must be doing something   that they really are scared of. Right?  

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A lot of people have been fully assassinated   for doing something right.  

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Okay. Well, my point is that I consider him a friend. I think everything he's doing   is, yeah, the first time he was up there, they had him totally fooled. He's really naive, thought he knew how it worked, didn't know. They surrounded him with traders who couldn't wait to put a a knife in his back, and you can see the difference   in him then and him now.   Okay? And he's just going after these people ruthlessly.   Alright?   And I don't believe I think it's a blessing   that they stole the election and had four years with Biden to make you this thing as worse as as bad as it was under Biden. And he learned the lessons, and now he's back. He's not surrounding himself with traders. Have you noticed in a month that there hasn't been any leaks?   Pay attention to that.  



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Iransh?   Yes.   If I could make a suggestion.   If   the   interview   with   Rentz   Hearns,   if the topic turns toward Trump.  

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Well, I don't want it to. We're not here to talk about Trump. We're there to talk about our stuff and freedom for the audience.  

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But a very quick response would be,   yeah, Trump's doing a lot of things,   but,   what we do   doesn't have anything to do with him because we exit the system on the local individual level.   And then just drop it at that. Don't let it Won't worry. Don't let anyone try and divert it into a pissing match over Trump and completely derail the message. Just one sentence. I will I will not let that happen. I promise you. Okay?  

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And see the advantage there, if he feels that way about Trump, is with our information, we can do an end run an end run around Trump. We don't have to adhere to the Zionist crap. We can expose them and confront them individually and collectively   here with this.   Yeah. So it's an advantage if you don't like Trump to go around his one facet that virtually everybody hates is this connection and drooling over the Zionist.   But now we know the reason for that, don't we? They control the damn country   because they've enslaved you, because you agreed with it and gave them your damn   slavery.  

You're the one who did it.  

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Hey, Marco. Isn't that   They gave me your permission.  

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Yes. Morning.  

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Morning. Did you get my email about this Eva lady?  

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Nick, I have to go look for it. I haven't checked my email yet.   Okay. I'll look for it though. Last couple of days.   Okay. And then, I wanted to mention and make note for,   for everybody to take note on is   the constitution   is a man made document.   Yep. We are under natural law.   So pry primary,   we are under   God's law.  

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And Which is we  

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our our rights come from the natural law.   Correct. So that's the primary thing for us.   Yep. Yes. The documentation limits the con the the government.  

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Yep. It protects us against them. It's protections for us against them.  

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Yeah. We can use that against   the government and, you know,   another thing,   Trump Trump is working in the man made   law and in the man made system.   So   Trump,   he's not for   for us, I don't think. You know? I don't believe that he is a   he is our,   you know, savior like a lot of people think.   We need to be more on the natural law side   and not depend on what they're doing   and do what we need to do for ourselves privately Mhmm.   And carry on that way.  

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Okay. We agree with her. Under natural law. We've got all the power. We just don't know it. Okay?   Princess, but let's look at mister Trump.   Right? Let's look at mister Trump. Did any of you any of you watch the first cabinet meeting yesterday?   No. I didn't. They broadcast the very first cabinet meeting live to the world on the Internet.   I saw it. Have you ever seen a president?   Have you ever seen hold on. Have you ever pardon me? You watched it, Linda?  

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Yes. I did.  

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Have you ever seen a president open up a cabinet meeting to the public?  

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Never. Raja? That's awesome. That is awesome, Roger.  

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Never.   Well, who do you think that was for? Mirka?   It's for the Zola. So so, Roger,  

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if he if he's if he's a Jew, is I you know,  

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What? No. Not now. What is he following, though? God almighty, the the the dud.   Okay. Samuel came on. He's not a Jew. He's a Christian. He prayed to Jesus Christ   at at the prayer meeting at at the opening of the thing yesterday.   His daughter said to him. Came from that came from Rick Wiles. Samuel came on here and told us one day that on Rick Wiles show one night, he said something   euphemistically   about him being a Jew, and evidently, that's where that whole thing started.   He's not a Jew.  

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Oh, that comes from several places, and Rents said last night I don't care. That his first wife was a Jew. I don't care. His first wife. I don't care. I know.  

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Okay.   So so, Roger, the main thing that I wanted to mention was the natural law. And,   the affidavit that we're using puts us under natural law. You know, it it corrects and and make it, removes the presumption Well, it's right there in the spirit. That we are  

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I've been gone national, the god given rights, constitutionally protected, and not a citizen of The United States in a condition of voluntary servitude  

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under the scope and purview of the fourteenth amendment. How much more plainly can you put it? Right. So, like, if you're gonna when you're talking to rent, it's like the main thing is we're back under natural law,   and we that we're not federal. We're not federal citizens. We're,  

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you know, just nationals and private individuals of The United States Of America We're we're the people who The United States Court. We're we're the people who the thirteenth amendment was written for.  

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Great.   So I just wanted to mention that.  

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Alright.  

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Also, if I need lady Are you yes, ma'am, Linda.   Yeah. I just wanna,   as,   Saki would say, circle back to what Paul said about the,   sales tax.   All of us that have done our paperwork,   we're nationals.   Now, John Gardner, the farmer,   he uses his passport,   number as his tax exempt.   I use a different tax exempt, my estate number that the IRS gave me. And I don't pay sales tax. So even if   the IRS is obliterated   and now   the the SERPs are burdened by this value added tax or whatever.   We as nationals,   we can just every time we go to the register,   I have my tax exempt number. I have my tax exempt number. That's all you have to get in the habit of doing,   And it will really,   ease your burden because you won't be doing those federal reserve notes with taxes into a system that's not working for us, and I yield.  



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Well, I mean, that's the guy Rich. Rich, whatever his name was in California, was the first one that pioneered this. He was living in one of John Kasarab's   buildings or apartments at the time. He's got a couple of rental things.   And, he's the one that came up with the idea. The   the sales tax is on the person who goes and gets a business license.   They're the ones that are asking for permission to do business.   The sales tax on them,   they just pass it along to you and you pay it. Yes, Paul.  

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Okay. The point I was trying to make   is if China if a if a Chinese manufacturer manufactures something and they sell it to   the distributors for $10,000,   if there is a 50%,   tariff on it, then China is going to be selling that for $15,000   And if the distributor   is paying 15,000   for it, they're going to distribute it or sell it for 2 or for   $20,000.   So whoever is unlucky enough to buy that   is gonna be paying 20,000   instead of 15,000.   Okay. Because the end consumer is going to be paying that $5,000   tariff.   And and it's so point not gonna do without  

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it. At some point, they're gonna take somebody's gonna see that vacuum and go, I can build it in The US and only charge 17 for it. And and the manufacturing is gonna prop up in The US.   That's the advantage of tariffs.   Right. It may go up for a little while, but not for not for long.   Somebody will see that nature   abhors a vacuum. They'll see that price differential and set up some kind of manufacturing.   Apple and the big bank, the, auto dealers   are two examples and, hell, he ain't even been in office five weeks yet, people.  

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Well   well, doing AI the way America is doing AI   is   absolutely ridiculously antiquated considering what China just came out with. They did for 5,000,000 what they've already spent 5,000,000,000 on in The US, and they did it in a fraction of the time. And we'll take advantage of that and start doing it that way inside The US and drop prices even more.  

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Yeah.   K.  

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Roger. So let's Tariffs   tariffs are tried and true medicine, folks.   There've been a lot of wars and stuff fought over them. What did Trump do? He came in and said, okay. Well, whatever tariffs you're charging us, we're gonna charge you the same back.   You know you know what he just did right there, Paul?   He cut the whole World Trade Organization out.  

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Yeah.  

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Okay?   So,   I I you know, it upsets me to hear people back. You got this guy doing all this good stuff, and all you can do is bash him. Who do you want, Robin? You want Jesus Christ to come back and lead us?   I mean,   look. Donald Trump, they've impeached him twice. They've for all these lawsuits.   They can't find one thing on him.   Nothing out of his entire life.   He's gotta be the cleanest guy in the country.   Come on.   He plays five d test too. I tell you what, no matter how you feel about Donald Trump, you better damn sure pray for him.   Because Oh, I do. Our future as a country is square in his hands right now.  



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Rogers Bruce.  

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Hey, Bruce. You better talk louder.  

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Oh, how about that?  

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Nope. Not loud enough.   How about this?   That's much better.  

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Okay. Alright.   One of the things I do with Rich is to tell get him to understand, he probably does already, but Papias might not, that how important that affidavit is your choice to be a national.   Not anybody else's. It's your choice. Point one I'm a hammer that hard. Or start off with that and then go into what you go into usually.  

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Okay. Well, I don't know how we'll play it. That's about a week away, but,   he wants to talk about Pavlov's dogs. That's his request.   I'll probably talk about that first. Okay?  

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Okay. Well, I I'm just telling you, that's what got me to do that affidavit.   That was the simplest thing in the whole   law,   point. Because that affidavit is your choice, and you make the law of the case right then and there after that. Well, I  

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just asked Mirka there a minute ago. I've gotten an email from a gal named Eva. She's probably listening today. Don't know where what well, I do. Anyway,   she's scared to death.   She's scared to death of these people and and and very kind of a little bit shy. And and she's going, I've read your book. I've done this. I've listened, but I'm just really scared.   And and she's kinda shy too. She tried to come on the show in the after show yesterday, and she didn't know if anybody heard her or not. And then so she put a message in the chat, and nobody answered. So she had come back on. She's very shy. And she said, could you please, if you could, find somebody to help me, preferably a female?   So that's why I pointed her to you, Myrka.  



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Yep. I'll reach out to her, Roger.  

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Yep.   Roger. So, yes.  

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Hey, this is Larry.  

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Regarding Trump,  

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this is from an article,   premierchristian.   News   from   12/21/2021,   First Baptist   Dallas welcomes Donald j Trump,   forty fifth president of The United States,   and Trump said Jesus Christ forever changed the world. Trump tells megachurch  

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The US needs a savior, and it's not me. And I'll just read these couple of sentences. Former US president Donald Trump make sure all you people that have been around here saying Trump's a Jew, I want you to listen to this.  

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For former US president Donald Trump has spoken of the importance of Jesus Christ to the American people   as part of a Christmas message to Christians in Dallas.   The forty fifth President addressed the 4,000 strong crowd at First Baptist Church Dallas   on nineteenth December.   Speaking as part of the church's Christmas worship services, Trump said,   More than 2,000 ago, an angel of the Lord appeared to humble shepherds and proclaimed the reason for our Christmas joy, For unto you is born this day in the City Of David, a savior, which is Christ the Lord. Our country needs a savior right now and our country has a savior and it's not me, he continued. That's somebody else much higher up than me, much higher.  

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Okay. Anybody wanna come tell me he's a Jew now?   Well, you're You wanna continue? Just go ahead and proliferate that damn crap. That Patriot crap.  

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Yes. Roger, it's Jack.  

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Hey, Roger. Hold on, Jack. I got Boris first. Sorry.  

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Okay, Roger.   Hello. Nice to hear you. I got just three things to say about that.   First,   Jesus put   anybody that's there is put there by God. Second,   APAC give him a hundred and $50,000,000   And third,   he say   the Palestine destroy, but he don't say who destroy it.   And, sir,   why did he pull the chair for BB?   That's it. That's the only thing I have to say, Roy. Okay. I don't know about that. You do. Thank you. I don't know about that. When you need an enemy, we're gonna put it there for you.   You know? That's what Harbor Pike says. When you need a hero, we're gonna put it there for you. Well,  

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Sheldon you know who Sheldon Adelson is? Bori?   Was? He's dead now.   Okay. Bory.   Bory.   He just goes away. Do you know who Sheldon Adelson was?   He's a big Las Vegas Jew, a bunch of casinos and stuff. He's dead. His wife, I think her name is Miriam,   gave Trump a hundred million dollars for the campaign.   Are you gonna have somebody are you gonna accept a hundred million dollars to try and get elected and then not at least try and honor what they   wanna get done?   I mean, see, there's a there's a real fallacy in our electoral process is these people could come in there and give that kind of money and assert that kind of influence to me. Okay?   So you you feel however you want to, just remember the enemy and my enemy is my friend. That's never wrong.  

Jack, what'd you have to say?  

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Yes.   Congratulations on Jeff French.  

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For sure. It was Jack from Colorado. Hey, Jack.  

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Hey.   Back in,   prior to 2036,   Ritz had a guest every month for twenty plus years named doctor Richard Sowder, PhD   off the ground base at the school.   And Richard brought up the facts. You know, he does,   have a lot to do with the Jewish mafia in New York, and he is kind of a Zionist and rich.   Broke it off after twenty   plus   years. They broke it off. He never had him back on the show after   all that time.  

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So he I'm not there to talk about Trump.   I'm there to talk about our stuff.   K?  

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Yeah. Yes. Of course.   Absolutely.  

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And   Richard Souders down here. I've met him over at Jack's. He comes out. Is he still coming out there and seeing you, Jack, occasionally?   Yes. Yes. He's moved up to Kankakee now. But we get to know sometimes. Yep. Okay. Well, let me tell the audience what happened to him.   Mister PhD underground bases wrote a bunch of books, all that stuff. Well, he came down here, and he wanted to have an Ayashwaya   experience.   So he went out and got with these,   shamans or whatever they are, and they got him high as a kite on Ayahuasca   and then beat the holy   crap out of him. Do you wanna tell that story, Jack?  



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Yes. It was a terrible experience.   Ayahuasca   is a herb found in the jungle. They make a tea out of it. And it's three day ceremony where you're just puking and   throwing up and diarrhea for three days to do it really Sounds like a lot of fun. And   while he was out of it in that trance like state, they just beat the photo out of him and and left him for dead. He was in the hospital, like,   four or five months to recover. Yeah.  

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And he's he's got he's a gringo down here, gets a crap beat out of him, doesn't have any insurance, and they throw him into one of the public hospitals here.  

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Yeah. It's horrible. It's Why? Why did they beat him?  

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Well, I don't know. Because they wanted to kill him and steal his stuff, I guess, John.  

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Yeah. It it was deep in the Amazon, and these,   a lot of these shamans are into   black arts, black magic.   I think they really tried to kill him   and thought may have left him for dead, and he was just unconscious.   But, Santa Maria and the and the worshiping, the dark side is   throughout all these gangs and and cartels are into it big time. Yep. They think it gives them protection. It's really kind of a sect of of Catholicism somehow   in an offshoot,   black coat.   But, anyway,   yeah. And then about two months ago, he get hit by a car here in Quito and ran down and run over. He's back in the hospital for Richard did? Couple of months.   Yep. Yep.  



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Lots more easier for them to run over here.   I'll draw up a question for you. Okay, Marco. What you got? Unfortunate for Richard. Sorry to hear that. Go ahead, Marco.  

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You know how we used to have the articles of Confederation?   Yes. Why did they bring in the what are your thoughts   what are your thoughts on why they brought in the constitution?  

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Well, I can tell you exactly why. Some   people will tell you it was all this devious stuff and people trying to change it and get control.   One of the main reasons was because under the articles,   if they wanted to do something   and pass something that applied to them, all of the states had to send a representative.   And so they get these really important things that they were trying to pass, and a couple of states wouldn't have an op a representative there, and they couldn't do anything.  

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I think that people had more power with the articles of confederation.   Well well well, they did. And back then, they were called delegates instead of representatives.  

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Right. Well, alright. Delegates from the state, whatever, but they couldn't get any cooperation   from everybody in that format   was one of the big major problems  

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as I understand. Mhmm. K. Maybe they knew what the federal government was doing before and didn't wanna participate with them.  

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Well, this is just the first there was no federal government back then.   There wasn't any business. What the states?  

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So it was more of the bankers trying to take control?  

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I I I I've never studied it in-depth. I don't know. I know that one of the clauses   said anything that they was gonna affect all of them, they had to be voted on, and all of the states had to have a delegate there. And they try and get some of those important things, and a state or two or more just wouldn't send anybody. So they had their hands tied.  

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Marco, we still have the best of the Confederation. We still have the articles of Confederation. They're still active.  

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Yeah. They're still there.   Okay. Well, there's our whistler, and I guess that signifies we're probably   pretty well done for a pretty exceptional day here. And thank you for listening, being with us, or participating if you did.   And,   we'll be back tomorrow, of course, with Brent. We can   oh, we can ask him about the   treaty thing. I think he'd probably add here with what the AI told us.   And, otherwise, in that, again, I wanna thank everybody that dropped to Jeff   a email. I'm gonna as soon as we finish the program here, I'm gonna respond. I haven't responded to him yet. So I'll do that this afternoon and,   grab a hold of March.  

And,   you know, the other thing about Rents is he's not really spiritual guy either.   He he doesn't appear to be a Christian. Okay?   So that may   alter his, perspective a bit.   Anyway, it's exciting. We'll see what happens. I'll try and be on my best behavior,   and him and I will certainly agree   on our enemies without a doubt. Okay?   So, we'll, see how that goes out, and   just very exciting after all these years. And, again, I wanna thank you if you helped.   If you didn't, that's okay. We got there anyway.   So we'll see you tomorrow with Brent. Have a great day. Ciao.  

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Have a good day, Roger.  

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Alright. Thank you, Mark. I I I think it'd probably be pretty hard for anything to screw up this day for me.   Now there may be something.   Okay? But I think it's gonna be a pretty good one.   I like the way it started.   So, you guys Eva, are you there now?   Eva,   are you listening?   If you are, unmute star six   and come say hello to us.   Eve.   Okay. Anyway,   she's very scared.   Merica and   I'm just shouting her, Roger. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Her phone number is just in there. Alright.   I'll see y'all tomorrow unless anybody's got anything for me now.   Roger.  

Sketch.  

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Yeah. You were mentioning,   Brents, and you can agree on in who the enemies are. I just wanna let you know that,   one of your compadres who,   was an enemy of the state, Gene Hackman passed away with his wife in Santa Fe, New Mexico.   And I don't know if you remember that movie,   enemy of the state, but he was definitely   on our side   in that movie.  

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Okay. You're talking about Gene Hackman, the actor?   Yeah. Yeah. Okay. No. I never saw the movie.   Oh, you never saw the movie. No. I got you. I'm not a movie. I'm not much of a movie guy, unfortunately.   Right. I gotcha. Well, anyway I do. Rest in peace, mister Hackman. I hope you were like that in real life too.   Anybody else got something for me?   Alright. We'll see you tomorrow with Brent. Have a fabulous day. And, again,  

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thanks to all you who participated. Thank you, Roy. Thank you for everything.  

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Become a reality. Okay. And,  

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And, Paul, it said 18 is that cat years, or is that dog years, 18?   You're 18?  

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No. That's 18 Celsius.  

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Oh,   okay. I got you. You. I thought it was 18 Celsius.  

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And I and I'm damn glad to be back there. I mean, those are good times. Well Good times. Well, happy happy Remembrance Day. Okay?   Yeah. Okay.   Thank you, Sketch.   Alright. That's it for the Radio Ranch with Roger Sales on Global Voice Radio Network and EurofolkRadio.com   among other platforms.   Be sure to check out PaulEnglishlive.com   and or Paul English live,   the program today, 3PM eastern.   You can hear that on the Rumble channel, Paul English live, or you can follow any of the links on PaulEnglishlive.com.   You can also   click the PaulEnglishlive.com   forward slash call   and,   join that show,   at least from a call in. Actually, I think there is a different call in number.  

Better better not listen to what I say. You better listen to what Paul says when when he sends out the invitation for people to join.   That's it for me. I'm out of here. I've got lots of things to do, so I'll be stepping away. The conference will remain open all day long,   just like usual. Thanks for joining us for the Radio Ranch with Roger Sales.   You'll   see us again   tomorrow,   11AM eastern   for the Radio Ranch with Roger Sales and Brantellon Winters.   Bye now.   Blasting the voice of freedom worldwide, you're listening to the Global Voice Radio Network.  

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Bye bye, boys. Have fun storming the castle.  

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Forward moving and focused on freedom. You're listening to the Global Voice Radio Network.