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In today's episode of the Radio Ranch, we delve into a variety of topics ranging from the intricacies of jurisdiction and citizenship to the challenges of property taxes and the implications of the Fourteenth Amendment. We kick off with a light-hearted discussion about the cultural nuances of walking arm-in-arm, before diving into the serious business of jurisdiction and the importance of understanding one's status as a national versus a citizen. Our host, Roger Sales, emphasizes the power of jurisdiction and how it can be a tool for personal freedom.

We also explore the complexities of property taxes, with insights from listeners about the challenges and potential strategies for dealing with them. The conversation touches on the historical context of taxation and the potential for reform, including the intriguing idea of abolishing property taxes in Florida.

Listeners share personal stories and insights, including battles with local tax authorities and the potential use of non-statutory abatements as a defense strategy. The episode also highlights the importance of spreading awareness about national status and the potential impact of collective action.

Throughout the episode, there's a recurring theme of empowerment through knowledge and the importance of questioning established systems. Roger encourages listeners to continue exploring these topics and to engage with the broader community in seeking solutions.

Join us as we navigate these complex issues with humor, insight, and a commitment to uncovering the truth.

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We would too. It's changing without us, but we might can help a little bit. And that's what we try and do is concentrate on putting our shoulder to the wheel, if possible, here at the Radio Ranch. It's the Tuesday   edition, Martis.   Martis in Spanish, which means Mars day.   And it's also our expat lunch day, which I always look forward to. And, Roger Sales, your host.   We're joined by a number of other platforms. It varies from day to   day. So, when when Paul's   not running away from his cat,   he can keep up with that stuff, and I think you might can do that this morning. Is that correct, sir?   Uh-oh.  

Uh-oh. Yeah. He's got a yeah.   Wow.   Got a feline problem.   Yeah.   Hey. Hey, guys.   Mhmm. No.   Mhmm.  

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I   shit. I didn't hear you. Feeling a little exuberant. It had my audio turned on. Let me let me go through that again.   I didn't have my audio turned on. I wasn't going out on the stream. It was dead air. We can hear you. Oh, alright.   Yeah. I know you guys could hear me, but there's there's, like, seven channels of audio, and they all melt together. And Yeah. Well, one of them was beating up on the side of the pot.   We're on radiosoapbox.com.   Thanks to buddy it's to our buddy Paul across the Drake. Morning, Brits.   And,   we're also on one zero six point nine WVOU FM Chicago,   The Pulse of Chicago.  

WDRN productions brings us,   WVOU   as well as homenetwork.TV,   freedom nation TV,   go live TV, and stream life.tube.   And the most recent,   hit numbers from the stream life.tube   website is somewhere in the neighborhood of 12,000,000.   So 12,000,000 visitors.   And, we're also on eurofolkradio.com.   Thanks to our buddy, pastor Eli James. As always, prayers go out to him for a I have an update. Recovery from his Yeah. I got an update.  

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Yep. Got an update on that. Okay.  

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And   we are on Global Voice Radio Network,   my pet project.   Our website is thematrixdocs.com.   And, you can find links to Eurofolk Radio, Global Voice Radio, and free conference call to join us live on the show right there on the website. You can also find a bunch of other stuff.   And that's about it even though I had to repeat myself.  

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I see. So Well, did your cat get some kind of feline joy from sinking its claws at your shin?  

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No. What my cat got was a very gentle,   stocking footed   kick that center No. A few feet back ever so gently.  

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Okay. So Alright. Well, that's pretty nice of you. That's pretty nice of you being gentle.   Good morning, kids.   Let's see. Wow.   Well, it is kind of a unusual start. If any of I'd love to hear if any of our Brent friends are over there, if we got any listeners in the on the little island over there.   If, you'd like to check-in, we'd love to hear from you. You guys are having a pretty tough time with this Starmer guy.  

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Oh, yeah. And,  

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I don't know. Maybe but Starmer and France are the ones that are kinda   settling up next to each other, from what I understand. And and Macron was over there visiting mister Trump yesterday, so,   maybe there'll be some resolution on that. Don't know. They're kinda freaked out.   Evidently, they, had a whistleblower   from the FBI come forward and say that there's   these standalone servers from the FBI that they keep off and keep all this stuff in, and they're deleting stuff out of there. Like, they can't hit those buttons fast enough,   Paul, is what, this FBI whistleblower is saying.  

Yeah. And, hopefully, they'll catch them. They've caught the leaker,   the gala that's   head of DHS,   Christy Noem,   former South Carolina and South Carolina,   South Dakota   governor.   They've caught the leaker. I'm anxious to see what they'll, you know, do to the one that's leaking   the raid information for the ill for the illegal aliens.   No. They're not migrants. They're illegal aliens.   So they got that going on, and,   everybody's, like, scared as hell of Cash Patel and,   the new assistant,   like, whose name doesn't come to me right now. Bongelo.   Bongelo?  

No. I don't think that's it. No.   Bongelo. Damn. I was close. And Bongelo.   For an old man, I was pretty close. So,  

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anyway Actually, your your way was tastier  

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because it reminds me of, like Yeah. Jell O. Like Yeah. Well, I thought Yeah. On Jell O. What it was at me. Well, and now that he's a government guy, that may be his new nickname.   Vangelo.   So, anyway, things moving briskly along, I guess.   Everybody's clamoring about these Jerry Epstein files, and I don't blame them. I'd like to see you know, remember remember Aretha Franklin? This is back when I was in radio,   Paul. Who's zooming who?   Well, hopefully, we'll get some Marissa Franklin information out of this,   Jerry Epstein file   files if they don't get them before the FBI,  

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destroys them. Yes. I hear a very faint, faint Roger there. Who might that be? This is Mike. This is Mike. Mike. Hey, man. How you been? Hey. I got that's pretty good. I went on the Social Security website the other day to, you know, check out my information, you know, how much I can when I can retire and all that. Set up my ID. Me information to it. No big deal. I said, well, let me go check the IRS, see what they got. So I set up my ID. Me through IRS, and I start checking files. And I said, well, let me see what the reporting for my income for the last four years. Guess what it was?  

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That's $5,000   a day?  

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1 dollar.  

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That's on IRS?  

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Yes. Then I get something from the treasury department,   the Internal Revenue Service yesterday. I'm like, oh, what the hell did these rascals want? Oh, it was just thanking me for using my ID. Me to log in into the IRS website. That's all it was. I was like, oh, there you go. Why did they send me you? Was that an email or a a mail mail? No. They sent me a letter. They were they sent me a letter. Yikes. Thank you for logging in to IRS website.  

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Mike, when you, when you were dealing with that magistrate from hell there,   senior a senior, a tyrant,   you got attacked by the Alabama tax service if I remember right. Correct?  

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Yeah. They're still attacking me. They they refuse to acknowledge. They even the letter from the head our, head internal from Alabama refuses   to acknowledge my affidavit and says, we have all presumptions,   and we release none.  

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Well,   you know, I used   to hold some of the officials in Alabama in high esteem, but that is being tarnished a bit by,   these people. Why don't you, write him back and ask him who the thirteenth amendment was written for?  

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Well, I I'm gonna I'm gonna,   write up a letter to her and tell her that, you don't have legal authority to,   presume anything.   And I says, I don't care what the Alabama code says.   You can't text me even though no matter if I and they're stating they wrote the code out saying that no matter who it is,   resident,   legal resident,   anybody.   Doesn't matter. If you work and live in Alabama, you're taxed.  

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He would but doesn't Alabama use the, federal form as the basis for their form?   I don't know. And I don't know where they got the information from because I didn't send it. Well, that that's listen. That's one you need to investigate that. To my knowledge, all states that charge state income tax   use the federal ten forty as the basis for whatever the settlement on the state income is gonna be.   And,   that that's your first defense, it would seem like to me, is I I don't know federal taxes. How can I owe Alabama taxes?  

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I haven't filed any taxes since 1999,   so I don't know where they got the information. Yeah.  

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Well, just keep keep,   keep being belligerent.  

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Yeah. But they refused to acknowledge my,   my affidavit. They just plainly says, we don't care.  

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You're you're a resident and we're gonna tax you. No. I'm not a resident. Residents are rebuttable presumption. I'm not. I'm telling you, I'm not that.   So I I don't know how to tell you. You know, we're deal now we're dealing in Trump's America with open tyrants here. K? The magistrate   who also when Mike took his affidavit up there, she says, oh, we don't recognize this. That's where this started with that bitch.   Well, excuse me, miss tyrant   bitch magistrate.   What other court test sworn court testimony don't you recognize?   Can you give me another example, or am I out here on a limb?  

Okay. You're a tyrant, buddy. If you tell me what I am, you're a tyrant.   It's my choice. And that goes all the way back to Vatel's law of nations. And all of you people that are screwing with Mike here are going and overturning your own tyrannical   250   or more of established lawful law.  

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Remember, I tried to get a a meeting with the city attorney to, stop them from stealing 6% of my paycheck for their ordinance saying,   occupational   tax, they refused to   get me a meeting.  

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Well, you know, out of the big surprise, it would be Alabama that's acting like this. You would think that   their heads are screwed on a little better down there, but obviously not. I'm sorry, Mike. Just keep just keep fighting the bastards. Okay?  

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We have a little tyrant grandma here in Montgomery. She she's awful.  

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Who who is this?   Your  

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Hey, Ivy. Hey, Barb. She's a little grandma. She's a little tyrant.  

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Okay. She's in Montgomery. You're in Birmingham. What what what organization is she the head of in Montgomery?  

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She's the governor.  

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Oh,   I see. Okay.   Oh, well well, I I you know, Mike, I mean, I we got the facts. We got the truth, and people don't recognize it. Just defend yourself as best you can and isolate yourself as best you can.   It would be the the worst thing point where  

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no.   No. It's almost to the point where you gotta take the governor and the head of,   of, safety   and,   all the counties and all the cities in Jackson County, the federal court to have them stop it, but that's a lot of money and a lot of time.  

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Well, yeah. And it's a lot of effort. You got it like you said, when you were trying to appeal this   after the,   appellate level, boy, there's some big lessons in this for all you people. If you get into this and you choose to fight these people,   one thing is if you Mike's problem was he waited   too close to the twenty days or whatever the limit is to appeal the case, and that just gives them grounds to shut it will, brush it under the rug, which they did. So now Mike's only other option is to go to the Alabama Supreme Court. He can't find an attorney that understands anything about what we're talking about and doing, and it's extremely expensive.   So, and he he doesn't have time to do it himself is quite a challenge. So,   you know, they kinda get you between a rock and a hard place simply because of organizational   structures and procedure. So if you ever get into one of these, I liked Cliff High. I had a he was suing some people. He was talking about it a while back, the Blue Chicken Cult and these people that were screwing with him. And what he said was he was playing this in his favor.  

So the other people are having to use an attorney. Cliff was was doing it himself, per se. And,   so when they'd send him something, you got a twenty day you know, you're on the twenty day clock. You got twenty days to respond. Well, instead of waiting towards the end, what he would do was sit down and respond immediately.   And that goes to the attorney, and she was counting on having twenty days so she could deal with their other clients   and do stuff because everybody waits till the end. Well, Cliff threw them off by, hitting that thing back in their court immediately.   Now she's got her whole schedule screwed up because you,   replied too quickly.  

So there's just a tip. I thought that's a pretty good idea, actually.   Well, Mike,   man, I wish I could do something for you.   When you can't get people to recognize facts, you've got a tough hill to climb.   K? But that's one question and whatever you respond to them,   and it's something I've just come on lately. We hadn't hold on, Mike. We haven't talked to you in a while. Is the thirteenth amendment had to be written for state citizens.   There was no federal citizen for six months. Who is the thirteenth amendment written for?   Dumbass.  

It's got voluntary servitude, legal by omission,   and there at the end of the, amendment   to recognize the several states. Who do you think that was written for there? Mister tax man,   miss magistrate?   People make me sick.   So, Mike, I'm sure sorry, buddy. Just keep fighting them.  

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Yeah. I just it's it's over now. I finished paying everything, and I'm just driving slow and,   just minding my own business.  

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Yeah. I see all this came from again, all this came from a traffic incident, folks. And I I'm not gonna I can't shame Mike.   All he's wanting to do is is be a fighter and go in there and fight this tyranny.   And I I admire people that do that, but, boy, you better be prepared for what's involved in it. If you're not if you're naive   and sitting out there going, boy, this ought to be a cakewalk.   And that's what I used to think. I used to think when I first got this, well, hell, we'll just get in front of a judge and explain it to him and everything will be alright. Yeah. Sure.   Boy, talk about naive.  

Okay?   But,   good on you, Mike, and I appreciate what you did. And I'm sorry you're in that position where you couldn't follow through and get a victory out of it. But   I guess by the fact that you just paid them some Federal Reserve notes and, you know, got your life,   you've got a victory of sorts there.  

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Roger.   Larry.   Good morning, Roger. How are you? Good morning, Larry. I'm alright this morning. We got sunshine  

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today. I think maybe we're out of our ten day plus   dreary cloudy overcast stuff. So I guess I'm going to be better.  

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We have similar weather here. Yesterday, it was drizzling off and on all day   cloudy   and then today it's still doing it, but then by the afternoon it's supposed to become sunny again. So it's going to be in the 70s.  

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Yeah. Well, you're going to get cold pretty soon. I hear it's cold as hell in Texas right now, some kind of low front. Don't know, but that's why I was just listening to something. Blowing through.   Yeah. Well, global solar minimum. Yeah.  

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What was that?  

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I said global global global   solar minimum.  

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Oh, yes.   Just wanted to   give some credence to what you always say that the federal   the state taxes are   the state income taxes   are usually based upon the federal income taxes   and a while back,   I helped Jack find this particular quote   in the Colorado   laws.   This comes right off of the Office of the State Auditor website   and here's the quote, Colorado   uses federal taxable income   as the basis for Colorado   taxable income, end quote.   So if any student does a little bit of digging, they will probably find somewhere in the statutes   or in the so called laws of their state   similar language like this   that shows that indeed the state income tax is always based upon   the federal income tax.  



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I I think that's the only way they could do it all over the states. And there's there's five states that don't charge income tax. You're one of them. I believe Texas is another one.   Nevada is another one. Yes.  

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Yep.  

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I think there's two more. Does anybody know what those states are that don't charge state income tax?   Florida, Texas, and,   Nevada are the ones we got now. Does anybody know of any others?   I think there's five.   Anyway, hopefully, you live in one of those. Florida   doesn't need to charge income taxes. Maryland, Maryland?  

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Yep.   Yep.  

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God, Jamie Raskin is sales tax.   Jamie Raskin is letting all that money seep through his little greedy ass Jew fingers?   I can't believe that, Dave. Roger?  

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They don't even have a sales tax.  

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Tennessee. That's it. Tennessee is in there. I remember that now. So Florida just when you come down to visit, they just   charge your state state sales tax, and that covers the income tax for the Floridians.   Anyway, ugly ugly subject. I hope you're not having to deal with it. There is that   that one really bright bulb in the drawers, miss Julie. Hello. Good morning.  

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There hey. I heard there are nine states in The US that don't charge income tax. There are Alaska, Florida, Nevada, North New Hampshire, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas,   Washington, and Wyoming.  

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Okay. Washington state doesn't charge income tax? That's hard for me to believe.   I'll give some of our Washington state people in. Well, I know Alaska does it.   I've forgotten about them. Do you know why, Julie?  

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Why? Which which one?  

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Alaska.  

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Why Alaska?  

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I don't know. Is that like the last I don't know. It's because they've got all that oil. Well, they got all that oil up there on the North Slope. And and so, when they started discovering that after I moved away, I think it was discovered originally in the late,   in the early 70s, something like that. All that traffic started going to Alaska and they started making all kinds of royalties off of it. So if you're a resident of Alaska, you get,   I don't know how much they pay them per year. It depends on, of course, how much is   made out of that, but the Alaska government,   state government pays all their, quote, unquote,   residents.  

Nice little hefty, payment there once a year so they don't have income tax. Yeah.  

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Yeah. And then, Washington, even though it doesn't have income tax, it does,   charge long for long term capital gains 7%   on any asset that was sold for a profit of 270   k or more.  

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Okay. So they still got a capital gains tax. Well,   a resident a non resident, I think,   excuse me, would be exempt from that.   This, this taxation stuff can be a tit a sticky wicket   at times.   And I've told you before, the reason we're here on jurisdiction is because I hated taxes so much. And that   that whole   day long   hearing I had with the IRS   at the Richard B Russell Building.   And by the time I got out of there, I was pretty beat up,   scratched, like Paul's Paul had gone by a whole herd of cats.   Pretty scratched up and bruised. And by the time I got   my wounds licked and cured, and I said, hell, there's gotta be a better way to do this.  

And jurisdiction was the answer, and here we are.   So,   and they   I tell you, it's amazing. It's amazing to have this power and to deal with some of these jerks like Mike's having to deal with there.   Mike, what I would suggest you do, and I know it was in the Georgia   traffic codes.   And and, you know, all these codes are uniform. They call uniform. The uniform traffic code, the uniform commercial code, the uniform electrical code, the uniform builders code, and that's so they can control that from the top down.   So in essence, all of those codes are the same no matter what state they're in.  

I would suggest you go to the Alabama code in the driver's section.   And they're in Georgia   in the section dealing with residency.   And my roommate one day comes come came home and said, you know, this is in   the Georgia code. I was at paralegal school at the time. We had a little law library there. So when the next time I was at class, in the evening, I popped in there. Boom. There it was.   And I don't remember the section or anything, but the code was, the area was around residency.   And there's a there's a and then that first one they give you is if you've been in the state longer than thirty days, the that one. And then there's another one, and then there's one sentence underneath that, and it says the term resident   is a rebuttable   presumption.  

Well, there it is right there. K?   So if you can find that in the Alabama code, that might be something else you wanna put into your letter to the state taxing authorities, and you say, hey, buddy. Whether I'm a resident or not is my choice and not yours. You don't even know what it means.   It doesn't even mean anything to do with geography.   It's whose laws am I under, and I'm not under your crappy   political subdivision state of Alabama laws.   So, again, just something to throw at them, Mike.   Yeah. I'll put it on. Julie, did you have, did did you have other things? Did you have other things to discuss?  

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No. Those were just the main things that I saw in there and, you know, the capital gains tax. You only have to pay in Washington if you have a profit of 270,000   or more. So that's kind of,   a nice little buffer there for probably most people not having to pay any taxes at all and it's not that much. It's 7%.  

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So Well, my question would be, do you think Bill Gates, Bill Gates pays his capital gains taxes in Washington state?  

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I don't think he pays anything.   I I think that guy is, you know, just lawless. He doesn't pay anything. He gets away with murder. He doesn't have to pay anything. We had,  

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we had a Jewish gal on here a couple years ago,   found us somehow,   and, down there in South Florida.   About the time when Paul came aboard, I think,   and, right shortly after that. And she   was a big time   insurance.   You know, when you go insure buy some big insurance and they go and check everything,   She was the person that checked all that, and she did the investigation   on Bill Gates' personal home.   And she was telling us about it. Said the floors and the ceiling and the walls are all blood red   and and all this really weird stuff.  

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No. So Yep. He's a problem of it. He's a statinist and they all are, but   it's unfortunate that we have people like this in our society that we have to contend with. But   a lot of the states that don't have income taxes get you with property taxes and in other ways. So   when you move to one of these, you got to weigh the options of no tax, no state taxes for other things they charge you for. Like   Maryland, I know, has a ridiculous property tax, transfer taxes on property, and a bunch of other things.  

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Yeah.   Well, that's a big scam around the country. We've talked about it on here before. The guy down I heard his name mentioned the other day in Texas. He's a lawyer and a builder,   and he's the one that has brought a lot of this to the forefront.   And one of the things is they went after him, and he he lives in the subdivision he built, and they didn't list any houses in the subdivision   as   comparables.   They had the the nearest comparable was 20 something miles away.   And, and they're going in. We've talked about it. I think you probably have been exposed to this, but what they're doing   is the people in the city are going to all the people that that feeds   financially.  

They're, well, what do you how much budget do you need next year? And they go, oh, well, a couple of billion would be good. And so they go in and take that input and then go back and do all these assessments   and come after the houses. And the big problem potentially   is that you're gonna price some of these people out of their houses with that ad valorem tax.   And all of a sudden, you're gonna get a whole bunch of houses dumped on the market because people have gotta sell and you're gonna affect the market. So there's there's some real,   real viable arguments,   in this.  



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Yeah.   You can, I know you said before that it doesn't work, but it it works in DC? You can appeal the   assessment of your property in DC. I've done it several times, but there's a trick to doing it. You have to first, they deny you. You have to appeal again. Then they'll deny you again a second time, and then you have to appeal again, and you have to appeal all the way to the Supreme Court. Then you get in a room with a bunch   of people who don't know anything and they're using some computerized   camera model   to value your home and they've never been in it. And you can   at least with me being a broker, I can usually say, hey, this is not worth it. You're over   assessing my house, and I've won on all my appeals. But,   you know, somebody who doesn't have access to a   database of the sales that have taken place in their neighborhood is gonna have a harder time.  

The camo model uses neighborhoods that aren't even near the house to appraise yours to bump the price up or the assessed value up, which is ridiculous.  

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Well, you know, I I I recall the story, and I've mentioned it occasionally about my Jewish roommate for five years who was my boss   at the Art Institute of Atlanta. He's a good friend.   And Lewis is a good guy.   He he used to say, well, man, if the Jews got all the money, I sure wish they'd give me some other.   But,   Lewis's family bought him when he was young. He was the only child. They bought him grew up in Brooklyn. His father was a process server.   And,   he, they bought him a set of these old encyclopedias.   They obviously have been used. I think they were,   dated back in the nineteen twenties. So it was before they got their hands in grubby little hands on all these publishing houses.  

And I always go to two two resident and Jew. Those are the two words I kinda look at when I go to some sort of a new reference book.   And, I pulled out the j,   the j version started reading about 30 pages in there. And the one thing that I took away from it was the Jews were hated in Russia   for stealing people's houses.   Boy, a leopard doesn't change his spots, does he?   Just any way they can do it.   So, Nope. They don't. So so there you go.   Somebody else got something to add this morning on our brisk little conversation here?   Good. Good. We've already at the bottom of the hour. There's somebody. I think it's Bob. Bob, is that you?  



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No. It's Thomas. You you mix us up, but you don't have a good  

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Okay. You sound like Bob.   Somebody sent me a copy this morning of an email they shot off to Jeff Rentz, and I'll talk about that when Thomas is finished since he's the one that opened the lid on this can last week. Go ahead, Thomas.  

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I was just watching you know, I watch I'll get up and watch the news on the Internet and see what's happening.   Here in Florida, it's been going on for a little while, a couple of weeks or a week. Then   fresh, apparently today,   our Governor DeSantis is standing up there behind the podium   and he's talking about abolishing property taxes.   No.   Yes, and he's going on in a not in the best way he could, but he's saying, gee, it seems so unfair.   It's hard on senior citizens. It's how can it doesn't seem right if you buy your house and then you have to keep and I'm listening to him and I'm going, gosh, that's our governor. And I'm going, wouldn't that be   refreshing? And then of course it would catch fire   throughout all of the states because   obviously nobody wants that. I mean people are getting buried in Texas   and kicked out of their houses.  

Florida we have a thing called the Homestead Covenant   and I think it's only one of three states where our house is our castle.   Our house if it's your main house,   nothing can   you can have levies against it. But the thing is your house can never be taken from you.   You   have   basically I mean, you're safe. I mean, according to Florida law, even in Florida,   the IRS can't even take your house in Florida. If you know how to stand your ground, it's totally protected.   And in the Homestead Covenant is the same thing as the Proposition 13   which occurred back in I think the 70s in California where In California.  

Yes. What happened was the people people they were getting taxed out of their houses   because the prices were going up and up and they bought their house in the 1930s or the 40s or 50s.   So they got protected. Well, we have that protection here   so that your taxes can only be raised if it's your primary residence,   I think maybe it's no more than 2%   annually   on the value of the home. So that keeps everything really, really low for people that have been here. But if they  

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want you out and they can't get you out that way they'll just burn the property down. Go ahead.  

[00:33:03] Unknown:

Yeah. Well, out of staters who have a Florida home for the winter,   they're completely exposed   to reevaluations   of the property based on current sales   and they're the ones who may be moved here and we're paying $2,500   a year or $2,000 a year for property taxes and now they're getting bills of $7,000   And they're going, well, I don't know if I'm gonna you know? But, anyway, he wants to abolish property taxes across the board. I'll I'll believe it, you know, when I see it actually happen, but I'm just amazed to see it even come out of his mouth.  

[00:33:36] Unknown:

Thomas, I don't know if you were listening. My my, friend down here, Walt, that has a apartment, nice little apartment.   And, couple about a month or so ago, he said, this is for your audience. He said, I paid my,   I paid my my,   taxes on the apartment today.   $70,   for the whole year.  

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Oh, yeah. No.   High property taxes seems to be just a US disease.   I have a friend who lives in Putney, which is right basically it's London. He lives just right almost on the Thames River. It's an old, old place. It's a little townhouse.   It's worth over $1,000,000   And he doesn't even I think he pays practically nothing, what they call a council tax over there.   And, he pays oh, that's a hundred pounds a year or something.   And then I had a brother-in-law   who owned a really nice expensive place on a place called Salt Spring Island which is in Vancouver area in Canada. I mean it's very ritzy and I asked him what's your property taxes and he told me it's like $800 a year or something.   And then   yes, it's just The U. S. Disease.  

I   think New Zealand doesn't even have property taxes.   I think places in Europe have very low property taxes.   I mean, when they pay some taxes, but it's it's not like the like, you have to have a second job to pay your property taxes in The United States in some of the states.  

[00:35:07] Unknown:

Some of the states for sure, and it's unusual because it's a different type of tax.   It's not   it's   well, it's it's all local for the most part. The way I understand it, it's school boards and fire   departments and It is. City government and whatever else, and you're supposed to be funding the local   area through these taxes, I believe, Thomas. Aren't you?  

[00:35:32] Unknown:

Exactly. What the the main part of the school the tax here is school tax.   Yeah. And then you'll get all your other you know, you know how it's like a like a you start adding on and all of a sudden you see, oh, wow. Where did I get that total? And you see there's lots of little stuff. You know, there's fire and there's this and there's this and there's that. You know, garbage and water isn't part of it. That's a whole separate deal. This is strictly, it's okay on the property. And   even DeSantis did say it. And I think I've called up to your show before and said   all of your property taxes are municipal taxes. They're not issued by the state.  

The state has it's confusing because the state has laws concerning property taxes   which will protect you this that and the other thing, but they are not the originator of the tax.   It's strictly municipal   local. And   if everybody knew that or could get on the same page, you could vote in your county to abolish property taxes   unless they rig the election or the what do you want to call it? You could abolish them. You could make them get them get the money from another source because they're not mandatory.   However,   the other strange thing is   if you don't   everyone knows this, if you don't pay your property taxes, they don't even take you to court. They just issue you a whole series   of notices.  

It's, you know, very long and proper, but at the very end, if you ignore them all, you will have your house sold at public auction.   And then the sheriff knocks on your door with a new owner and gets you to vacate.  

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That's actually the way it works. Dispossessory,   that's called.   Well,   rent.   Yeah, it's just, you know, tax layer, layer, layer, layer. Don't know if anything will ever come of this. A lot of people starting to bitch about it, I guess.   But,   I just don't know.   I know my our family home in Florida was tax exempt because my mother was legally blind.   And so if you are in that condition, they,   pull your house off the property rolls.  

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Yeah. Well, now that's gone to a new owner, you'd probably be surprised what the taxes are on it. They're probably thousands of dollars at this point. Oh, I have no I have no doubt that that's true.  

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Okay.  

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Yeah. Well, the rule of thumb down here is and of course it's hard it's crazy to say it, but for every million dollars of assessment,   you pay about,   20,000   in property taxes.   And that doesn't sound so far fetched. You say, oh, I got a $500,000   I have a $500,000   house. You're paying $10 a year in taxes.  

[00:38:16] Unknown:

Why don't you go and do a little digging around and find out how much Trump pays on Mar A Lago every year?  

[00:38:23] Unknown:

Oh, I'm sure it's a lot. He's right on the road.  

[00:38:26] Unknown:

I have no doubt. Oh, yeah.   So,   alright.   Is that Bob? Now there's Bob.   Isn't it? Yes. Yeah. I got that one. One out of two. Yep.  

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Yeah. 50%. You could get big bucks in Major League Baseball.  

[00:38:44] Unknown:

Yes, sir. I could.  

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Tom, have you studied that homestead exemption? What what does that amount to? I assumed, and that's probably a bad idea.   But when it was explained to me, I already had gone to national status, and I didn't explore it because I made the presumption   that it was,   well, that it was a benefit   and that,   national was probably not,   didn't have a capacity if you wanna put it that way. It wasn't in such status to take advantage of it, and I never really looked any further. Do you know any more about it?   Sorry. I should look at it further. Got to get my grammar  

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right. If your home is your primary residence,   you then can claim the exemption.   In other words, whatever you purchase your home at,   you will be   you're frozen at that rate   and you will pay a millage rate   percentage of the value   at that and they can never be increased more than about maybe about 2%.   I mean, I know people that are living in houses that are over $1,000,000   that are paying $1,200   a year in property taxes   and the person right next door is paying $20,000  

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The question I'm posing is, is that something   that is only available if you are a resident? That's my question. I never thought that. Hey, I don't know if I would argue that.  

[00:40:15] Unknown:

I mean, I sent in   I did the whole thing   where I'm a national,   but I'm certainly not gonna go down there and argue with them and ask if I'm   my exemption  

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is is still good because, you know, I do Well, I have never taken advantage of the exemption because I wasn't even aware of it   until after I had national status and so I just   ignored it. But I was just curious when you were bringing that up if  

[00:40:45] Unknown:

you've done any research on it. No. No. I just know that it exists and we always took advantage of it.   I wouldn't want to relinquish it   on general principles simply because I'm a national because my taxes would go up. Yes. Well, I may have to look into that.  

[00:41:02] Unknown:

Where are you located?  

[00:41:03] Unknown:

I'm right in Fort Lauderdale.   Nice.   Yeah. I'm right   in the high rent. You know, I'm like one of those old people in California.   I bought my house, you know, like 1942   or 1951.   And here I find myself sitting around   all these very well off city slickers   in the houses, you know, and I have neighbors who are in the same position as me, but, you know,   sooner or later when we die off,   everybody's gonna be paying sky high property taxes.   But everyone does anyhow.  

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If I may.  

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Yes. You may.  

[00:41:44] Unknown:

I'm sorry, Roger.   Tom, in Washington State up here, when we get exemptions on property tax,   it is what on the face of it is what it is, but that all accumulates   and when that property is transferred,   the new owner has to make up all that deficit.   Is that the same way down in Florida? Well,  

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it's funny you should say that,   I have some neighbors   who,   they were the reason I found out they were actually on the news. It was a new program   instituted to come somehow protect people   from high property taxes.   And these people   had paid like, oh, I don't know, a little over a million dollars for this house.   And their property taxes were somewhere around   bottom line is, it's a program where they're gonna do exactly that. They're going to defer   their taxes   and lower them down to about 6,000 a year   and then when they sell the property it all comes due.  

[00:42:45] Unknown:

It rolls up to the new owner?  

[00:42:48] Unknown:

Well, I just go to the new owner, it goes to them. Well, it goes to the   closing   whether you made a agreement with the new owner, Phil pay it or not or you pay it. But if the city and the county is going to get their money when next time that property changes hands. Julie   program they just instituted because they just put it on the news saying this is a break for seniors.   And,   so whatever.  

[00:43:11] Unknown:

Julie's our real estate person. Julie, I know a joint tenants in common has that   attribute that one tenant dies and it it can roll up everything that's due,   when the other tenant dies. I believe there's some law on that, I think, from our memories. Correct?   Well, don't know much about it. I just I don't have to deal with it, and,   I'm sorry some of you do if you're in those situations.   And like Julie was saying, you just go to the appeal and you just keep, what's my next step in my administrative appeal? What's my next step in my administrative appeal? And you just go until you   find the end or get an answer that satisfies you.  



[00:43:55] Unknown:

Yeah. You can, usually just go find a real estate agent who will help you out for free and just tell them that you need some   sales of homes like yours, like, similar in square footage, within a half mile radius to your house and have her send you he or she send you a printout of those and say this is what the house is most like and, make sure she pulls the ones that where the sales prices are lower or around where you think your house should be assessed.   That's probably the best thing you can do and just keep on appealing.   You can also Or you guys can county   you can call the county too and ask them. Tell them tell them I wanna know how you assessed my house. Where's the which what did you use to assess the value   of my home? And, they have to send you that. And then you can pick apart that and say, this is wrong. This is not a comparable. This is not like my house, and pick out the ones that are higher priced and beat them at their own game because it is just a game. They do exactly what Roger says. They figure out what they want for a budget, and then they just bump the price of your house up without any,   thought behind it at all just so they can get the dollar for their the dollar amount for their budget every year.  



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Yep.   Keep fighting. It's like Trump. Fight. Fight. Fight.  

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And if I may, one more thing, Roger on property.  

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Yes.  

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Used to be 20 acres,   but other states are probably doing this too. Washington just dropped their forest rating down to five acres.   So what you can do if you have trees is put your property   under forest designation   and   instead of hundreds, you'll be paying like $20 70 dollars 30 dollars a year on 20 acres and trees.   It takes no involvement on your part.   You just let them know what's going on. Now if you do have a house on there, a real house with a foundation   and septic,   they only   subtract a half acre   from your total of that and the rest you can put in the forest, so you're not taxed on   trees per se, the land, the usage of the land, as long as it's not obvious where they're shop on.  

Just put that out there. You guys may wanna check on that. I'm done.  

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Okay. Do   does does Washington state have an income tax?  

[00:46:16] Unknown:

No.  

[00:46:17] Unknown:

Okay. Well, they are exception then. Okay. Thank you.   Anybody else got wanna weigh in on that?  

[00:46:25] Unknown:

Roger.   Larry.   Hey.   I was about to raise   that whole   issue with the property tax   right before Thomas got on. I actually found that article the other day. It's really short. Florida Governor Ron DeSantis has expressed support for eliminating property taxes   in Florida, a move that would require a constitutional   amendment and at least 60%   voter approval.   While the idea may appeal to homeowners frustrated by rising taxes, experts warned that the loss of property tax revenue could have significant   consequences for schools,   public safety and local governments. Now this is the interesting part.  

DeSantis addressed   the issue on social media   stating that since property taxes are levied at the local level,   eliminating them would require a constitutional   amendment.  

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No.   And I I'm sure it would put all these cities   and are are   stretching for money everywhere. That's where a lot of the traffic stuff comes from. And I would imagine it would put a number of them that have gotten a little extravagant with that over the years and decades,   would put them in a real bad position, Larry.  

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Hey, Roger.  

[00:47:48] Unknown:

Yeah. Well, maybe we need you know, this is something hold on a second, Thomas. This came up with,   Owen. I can't remember the guys got dreadlocks. It's on   InfoWars out in San Diego   all the time.   Always screaming and stuff and stuff.   He went to a city council meeting there and was proposing   local Doge   And to take the idea of Doge and what they're doing at the federal level and extend it down to the,   municipal level, city level, and try and find out where all that waste and abuse is going there. And that is a really viable idea if you think about it.   Now, Thomas.  



[00:48:31] Unknown:

Yeah. No. Yeah. A couple of things that you brought that up. Well, number one, if they did take it to a constitutional   level for the state of the Constitution of Florida,   If they argued,   the very fact that property tax is actually an oxymoron,   you're violating the principle of property   if somebody can tax it and take it away. In other words, you don't have   the possession. You don't have the right of title.   In other words, the two cancel each other out. So all they'd have to do is go into the   into the courts and argue that it can't possibly exist because it's a total violation of property   and then   that it would end it right there rather decide whether we should or whether we shouldn't   make it so that it's impossible to charge it   unless you want to come to the ruling that people in Florida,   I guess the correlative would be the people of Florida do not own their property.  

They are tenants Well, nobody does.   Nobody does. We know that. Yeah. We know that. But I'm just saying this would be put on paper and it'd be a very recent court thing or at least, whether it would be taken and argued.   And,   and just get rid of it completely because it's there's no reason for it. You know, if we do really live in the the land of the free and the home of the brave,  

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how how can that possibly be? You know? Well, freedom yeah. As you know as you know, freedom's not free. And,   I guess you they could argue this is part of it that you and the rest of the people who are in that   municipality,   whatever you wanna call it, are   responsible for the upkeep and the overhead on all these things   that apply to everybody, fire,   police, etcetera, etcetera.   So I don't know. It's a sticky wicket, but they're Right. They're really charging. Hold on. They're really charging way. They they got the scam going. Oh, okay. I'll shut up. Bruce, I think you were one of them. Go ahead.  

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Yeah. Thank you.   Now   if you're the real owner, you you might need to pay the tax. But you're if you got a loan from the bank by the house,   they own the house, not you.   The bank needs to pay the bill.  

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Okay.   Don't know how far that's gonna go.  

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It also   brings back it brings back so you you know, things kind of come and go, and it's really, really important. And they just somehow they fade away, but they never get resolved.   You remember Walter Burien and he had Yes. Of course. Still there because I just I just yeah.   Caffer1.com.   Every large municipality   has got millions if not billions stashed.  

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Uh-huh. The   big factor. Here's the only here's the problem with that. Walter Burien is trying to get this out and effective if for thirty years and it hadn't happened yet.  

[00:51:24] Unknown:

Exactly. Well, the last time he tried, Roger, was around February and of course right after that we've got the big catastrophe in New York and the Patriot Act. So,   in February he said there were $60,000,000,000,000   in assets   sitting there and two thirds of that was local state, only one third was federal.   So that means all this stuff can be financed if they were to present us with the real set of books   showing their assets as well as their liabilities.  

[00:52:00] Unknown:

What I'm thinking is since this Doge thing is in everybody's mind,   like, hey, let's look and see where everything really is.   Well, CAFR   maybe could be re you know, could be revitalized   or at least brought back to the forefront   because that is local. That's when when Burien was talking about that, he said, go check into any one of your big municipalities   like Atlanta   or like Miami or like Dallas and you'll find these people have two sets of books.   It's a non standard bookkeeping   technique that every any one of them can use.   So you have to bring in a team   of very accomplished auditors who can figure stuff out because apparently it's an absolute rat's nest how they keep   the books and where everything is. It's non standardized and according to Burien if you kept the business and you showed your books   to   the   tax people, you'd go to jail.  



[00:53:00] Unknown:

So it's   enough.  

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Yes, Dave.   Yeah. I have I had a friend here. He passed away a couple of years ago. He was   88,   farmer, you know,   he had a dairy herd,   80 cows, him and his wife, and he was on, you know, 80 acres, I think. And he was a tool and dye guy,   down in, you know,   pretty far from where he lived.   And he traveled the world or not the world, but the country,   doing expos and stuff. And when he found out about that,   you know,   Walter Burien stuff, he actually went to his county,   and he want he requested the Caffer books.   And they showed him. And,   and then they told him, if you ever mention it again,   we will kill you.  

Literally.   And they started screwing with them. He's he he drove without a license for, you know, over ten years. No plates. None of that stuff. They started pulling him over and, I mean, every county,   everywhere,   wherever he went. And,   I mean, he yeah. He he died. I don't know if they you know, he got he got cancer, fast acting cancer, died pretty quick,   you know, years later. But,   he was pretty vocal.   Well He was a pretty he was a tough guy, you know, in the, in the airborne first airborne and all that, you know.  

[00:54:36] Unknown:

But yeah. They told him that. They showed him, and then they told them. And that was There's just no telling what these bastards have done since March the ninth of thirty three. All this stuff is subsequent that.   I doubt if they had CAFRs before that.   And that's why we that's why what we do here is so important.   I heard   somebody talking. They played a little clip on, on Harrison this morning. Guys going on. Love Trump. Love what he's doing. This, that, and the other. And then he launches off on the Zionism deal. Everybody's gotta be a Zionist. This, that, and the other.   Well, there's where it all comes from. That's where their control from today still comes from, and we can affect that.  

K? Trump can't do it. He can't make all of you free.   He could tell you about it, but he can't do it. You've got to do it. You've got the power, and we can really, really accomplish more against these bandits   that have infiltrated   even the Trump administration   from top to bottom, it appears. We can do something about them. And and then if he's gonna go and pass laws that said you can't talk about the Jews, which I think it applies to schools and stuff, well, we can.   I can I can say anything I want about them? President Trump, I like you. I respect you. I think you're a hell of a guy,   but I'm not gonna put up with the Zionist crap   and all this Jewish slavery shit, which you probably don't know about, I'm assuming.  

But we can affect that. And the the more we do and while we're I'm talking about it, if you have not,   thanks to Thomas last week,   Colin Rentz when he had a night open and talking to the board op, and he got a a different email than we've had for him.   If you could drop a email to Jeff Rents, I'm gonna give you the address in a minute. So get a pencil or whatever you need,   and, just say you need to have the Sky Roger Sales on the radio. That could be a real big step for us. He's got a very huge,   established,   intellectual,   intelligent audience. I mean, you may not know it. Jeff has had a three hour radio program   five nights a week for   thirty years.  



[00:56:51] Unknown:

Roger, I got an idea.  

[00:56:54] Unknown:

Well, okay. Let me finish, Bruce, if you would, please. If you'll write Jeff Rents and just tell him to get yeah. You need to get this guy on the air. You need this information exposed. It's powerful. I don't care what tell him. You it in your own words, but the email is sightings.sightings,sightings,plural,@mindspring.com.   Sightings   at mind spring   dot com. If you just drop him that email,   maybe you can,   lend your shoulder to the wheel too. I mean, it doesn't take it doesn't cost you anything. It'll take you a few seconds of your time,   but I sure would appreciate it. Maybe we can get this information on RINCE. If we do, that may be the platform we're looking for. Okay, Bruce. What do you got?  



[00:57:40] Unknown:

Okay. This is my idea. Send him an email and make an attachment of your,   affidavit,   free your freedom affidavit.   Okay. And, he'll have an example  

[00:57:51] Unknown:

with the, notice. I would also suggest   well, I I would also suggest that he is busy, and I know that he may wanna check this out.   Send an email link to God's trump card, which I think is probably one of the better interviews I've ever done because of the way it was set up.   And, they're just take a minute, drop Jeff at that address, [email protected],   and drop him an email, please. I'd appreciate it. For all of you, I've done a lot for you, and I never charged anything. This is something you can do for me and for all of us to help out. And, Paul, have you got rid of that cat? She's still clawing you or what? Can you tell Chicago bye bye? Yeah. I got a  

[00:58:32] Unknown:

yeah. I got rid of the cat, and we actually have to say bye bye to a lot more than that. Radiosoapbox.com.   1 0 6 point 9 w b 0 u f m Chicago,   home network TV, freedom nation TV, go live TV, and stream life.tube   listeners.   Go to the matrix docs   and click on the eurofolkradio.com   link or the global voice radio link.   The net family of broadcast services is leaving us after this hour today,   and,   we hope to see you right back here at 11AM   eastern   tomorrow.   Maniac We'll follow us in the second hour.   Yep.   The matrixstocks.com.  

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Right. Just no telling what might come up. See there? Right there. Yes. Is that Julie?   Yeah. Roger, can you explain is it m I n, d as in dog, spring, or m I n e as in elephant? No. No. My M I N D Spring Dot Com. Oh. It was a old it's an old carrier out of Atlanta, actually, MindSpring, I believe.   But Jeff still uses it. And, yeah. Okay. Yes, sir. Bruce, is that you again?  

[00:59:44] Unknown:

No. It's Sheldon. I tried to make that as clean and crisp and fast as I could, pleasing to all parties. I didn't want to muddle him up too much with details because he's sitting at a desk like you are, and he knows how many males.  

[00:59:59] Unknown:

Okay. Well, thanks, Sheldon. You were drifting in and out there. You want us to repeat that? I   I think it was about sending an email in.  

[01:00:09] Unknown:

Yeah. I said I tried to send it to him. I tried to make it clear and clean and without a lot of details, so pleasing to all parties   because he's sitting there reading who knows how many hundreds of mail. Oh, yeah. Yeah.  

[01:00:23] Unknown:

Rince is real busy. That's why I make make it short as possible, but in your own words. You know? But we just keep badgering him. Maybe we'll get a shot.   And I've been trying to get on Jeff Rinse for fifteen years,   and we paid him $3,500   for ads.   I couldn't even get to talk to him. Couldn't get on the air or nothing.   I've had guests of his that I got a hold of, and they tried to talk to him. He said, listen. Thank Roger for what he's doing.   And, but I'm just too busy. Well, you know, hope maybe we'll crack that one of these days. I hope.   Rinse would be a real good one.  

SGT reported be a good one, although I   who knows?   Anyway, we just keep day at a time, see an opening, we take a jab, and hopefully, it'll pay off.   So who else has got something this morning now? We're in the second half. There's a   okay. I'm gonna go with the first one. Was that Thomas again?  

[01:01:20] Unknown:

Yeah. I just for what it's for what it's No. Hold on, Ken. Only  

[01:01:25] Unknown:

Go ahead go ahead, Thomas. Heard this  

[01:01:27] Unknown:

okay. I've only heard this a couple of times, and I've been we've been listening to Rents for years.   I've actually got the number of the board op here,   which,   he's pretty stingy about handing it out.   When he says I'm gonna take calls if you don't get it the first time. I know about him. I got it. I got it. And if you'd like, I should I can read it to you, and perhaps somebody could try calling this to see if this is a way to maybe get a direct contact with him. Yeah.  

[01:01:55] Unknown:

Why don't you hold off on that and keep that number tight, and let's see if this works. Maybe we can resort to that if it doesn't.  

[01:02:03] Unknown:

Well, the other thing is it might be a little bit kinda sneaky, but he'd mentioned   when he had this call in the other night, he says,   I'm just gonna throw this out there. He says, I'm looking to sell my property,   and I wanna move to somewhere about 20 miles from here. If anybody's interested,   I'm I'm I'm trying to sell the place that I've got here. And I thought, well,   somebody could maybe get in direct contact with him, but you'd have to pose as somebody who was interested in this property. I I I wouldn't wanna I wouldn't wanna insurance it dishonestly.  

[01:02:38] Unknown:

Honestly.   Right. I I think that puts a stigma on you from the start. So,   anyway alright. Well, thank you, Thomas. Ken, was that you?  

[01:02:48] Unknown:

Yes, sir.   Can you hear me?  

[01:02:52] Unknown:

Yeah. I can. How you been? We haven't heard from you in a while.  

[01:02:56] Unknown:

Oh, good. I try to listen occasionally. It's just,   wrong time of day for me, so I have to listen later. And I apologize in advance, but I'm mobile. So   if my connection   or my sound is, or if you hear me cuss and swear,   I'm mobile and I do. Trailer.  

[01:03:17] Unknown:

Yeah. Well, you're you're coming in loud and clear for whatever that's worth. Go ahead, Ken.  

[01:03:23] Unknown:

Okay.   I don't know if you covered this already   because,   I haven't heard the show all all today.   But   last night on Hal Turner   and this is really a a a like, more like a Paul issue. He could explain it better than I could probably.   But Hal Turner has said that he was told   that douche, who actually I call dote,   Oh, well, I won't say that word.   I forgot about the audience.   The   they've achieved   god mode   on all of the government computer systems,   which,   in my,   verbiage, I would say that means all the hooks for AI   are in now.  

[01:04:14] Unknown:

Alright. I'd be very cautious of Hal Turner.   You may not have known he was, identified as an informant   decades ago in a court case.  

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Oh, I I'm very familiar with Hal Turner, and I I   personally believe that he's controlled opposition,   all that good stuff. So,   no problem with,   that understanding.   However,   you know, some of these things, he does let out to, you know,   any to get people to believe something   even though you wanna mislead them, you have to tell them, you know, 80% truth,   in order to,   hear the shift with the   small rudder.   Or I should say a very large ship with a relatively small rudder.   However,   that's basically   what I thought the whole douche thing was all about from the beginning   is,   AI implementation.  

So,   it,   I find it, a fascinating   thing   to be said.   But,   if you it it's the old,   Masonic   thing of,   how do they say it? Ordoobkale.   Order out of chaos.   Sure. So   you're hearing all this chaos, like, you know, 500,000,000,000   here and 20,000,000,000   there and, you know, total chaos on spending and now we're bringing order.   So it all kind of ties it up in a neat little bow, but   I'm sure Paul could do a much better job of explaining what god mode   means   on all those it's actually the words he used were god mode   algorithms.   So I just wanted to put that out there   and tell everybody to   enjoy their freedom while they can. It's precious   and,   wonderful. And so I thank you again   for, you know because when I first came on, I don't know if you remember or not, but I said, I don't care if it only lasts for two weeks.  

At least for two weeks, I can say I live just free as I possibly could.   And so   who knows how much longer we have.  

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I don't think they're open to be open tyrants, and and I you know, I'm a glass half full guy. Okay? So,   all I know is I they can't oh, they can't negate what we do without being open tyrants,   like the magistrate in Birmingham. K?   And the Right. More of us the more of us that we get to cross that line,   the more insured we are.   That's why I urge you to please spread this for your sake, for my sake, for the whole group's sake. Talk to people about this.  

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Oh, I I fully agree, and I do. And and,   I   I get a lot of people looking at me with cross eyes.   But it doesn't stop me.   Especially, you know, in a small town, everybody knows everything about everybody. So believe me, I I pay a price. But the other thing I wanna say is that   I think that's the reason   why   they're going   to tariffs and want to abolish   the   IRS   is because what you're doing is so effective and the numbers are so huge Yeah. That,   they they can't say anything about it because to say something about is to admit to it and or bring light to it.   So they just wanna say, you know, out of   chaos, we're bringing you order in the tax system. I yield. I I'd hate to say that I that I obliterated  

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the best approach we've got. The soft underbelly of these bastards is the tax system. Who's the female there?  

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Good morning, Roger. It's Myrka.  

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Myrka.  

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Can you hear me? Okay. Yes. Good morning. Hey, Ken. Nice to hear you. Yes, ma'am. Un unmistakable  

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voice. I knew it was Mirka. Mirka. Sorry. Mirka.  

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If like, you're saying, enjoy your freedom while you can.   We need to fight for it.   It's it's up to us to enforce our claim of being a national and private individual.   So if there's more of us doing that,   being smart, learning the information,   carrying on in private,   we can do it.  

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Yeah. Oh, I agree. I mean, we have to keep going. You can't stop.   It's,   it   you have to. You you just   that that's like   I'm sorry. Go ahead.  

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Well, I was just gonna say on the new people when on these naked affidavits,   boy, look at the wealth of people you got to cc.   Pam Bondi,   Kash Patel,   president Trump,   all these pay all these folks up there, you can cc on that.   Maybe we'll bring some awareness. You know?  

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Well, she's red flag headquarters, so I   I   Yeah.   I that's a I know. Awesome Well, give her prayer topic.  

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Give her the opportunity to change her mind. She's got a different perspective now.  

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Yeah. It reminds me of the Flintstones, you know, where you had Bam Bam. Now you got Pam Pam.  

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Good job. Hello, Roger. Uh-huh. Roger, this is Chris from California.  

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Hello, bud. Is it Chris?   Okay. Thank you, Ken. Chris, talk right in your phone, man. You you got a faint  

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phone. I was gonna say, is this better?  

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Well, anything's got can be better. I guess it is. Go ahead. If you can't help it, you can't help it. Okay. Okay. Just do I don't know. Okay. I don't know if you've had anyone  

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doing discussions   on the non statutory   abatement.   We have in the group,   oh, good, good, good.   Do we know anybody that knows a lot about it?  

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Samuel probably is one of the people that knows the most about it, I think. Samuel, you there?   Yeah. Probably not. We've talked about it on the show before dealing with especially   dealing with these traffic tickets is where people were bringing it forward. We try not to talk about that too much. I hate getting bogged down in the traffic crap. And I'll tell you again, because the jurisdictions   are not   complimentary with each other. One of them will recognize it. The one next door won't. And you can't talk to them about it just like Mike in Birmingham.   Oh, we we don't I'm I'm not I don't recognize your affidavit.  

Excuse me? You what?   Well, what other court testimony don't you recognize?   Lady?   Miss tyrant?   So that's the problem, Chris. But, yeah, we've talked about it.  

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How could I get in touch with, Samuel?  

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Well, I thought I'd put you two together. If you'll drop me an email,   to my email address, I can hook you up with him. He's just up there north of you a ways.   He's up around Claserville.  

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Every everything I know, I know out of the book of the hundreds for the non statutory, and statutory from,   Mel Stamper.  

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Okay.   So we have talked about it a bit on here. I I Samuel's   about as much of an expert quote unquote as we've got around here on it to my knowledge. I might be wrong, but he's looked into it more than anybody else.  

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Has anybody And we have seen it. John Joseph?  

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But he heard anything from what?  

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John Joseph.   He used to work with,   John Quaid.  

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Uh-huh. No. I have. I probably met him.   I probably met him. I saw Quaid in person back in Georgia years ago. He's probably along with him in that crew. But, he had Randy Lee were brothers,  

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basically, in in that church down there in Southern California. I I do believe.   Okay.  

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Okay. We had, one of our listeners, he doesn't join us too much more, Augustus.   And,   he had a little Filipino wife or something, and they got corralled by the LA Cops. And I think he took care of it with a non statutory abatement.   But we don't hear from him. Guys used to  

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used to live in and around the rural areas of Thousand Oaks, I do believe.  

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Yeah. That's true. Yep. Okay.   Yeah. I saw them quite often on a weekly basis   and I, would go up to, John Quaid's home up there off of, Old Teatrophy Road while he was still alive.   And,   I think I think that the non statutory   abatement may have a broader application.  

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Okay. Well,   it could.   It's probably one of the   resources we have as nationals,   but  

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Especially, yes.  

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You know, again, my our emphasis here is to keep you out of court and not to specialize   on helping you   in there.   But,  

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I'm looking at abatement's about. It's outside of court, Roger.  

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Right. I know that, Sammy. Looking  

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at totally as a as a defensive weapon,   to keep people out of court or out of trouble. Mhmm. Maybe it's I challenge jurisdiction   a lot.   Sure. I know quite a bit about it. Very effective with challenging jurisdiction administratively,  

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100%  

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on that one.   Okay. The next step is to,   keep it out of court, which we've been successful to do on almost every case.   But I   used the non statutory abatement myself   I think for a traffic matter way back in the day but I want to take another look at it   And I'm just wondering if anybody is,   you know,   very knowledgeable.  

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Well,   I I don't know of anybody more knowledgeable than Samuel. Anybody on the audience know anything about and have any in-depth knowledge on non statutory abatements?  

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Roger, this is Jason from Virginia. I'm I'm I'm studying on it right now, but I'm not an expert on it.  

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Okay.   So, no, it may be very viable for us, and   and so maybe comes up somebody's got that situation. We can help them with it. Okay?   Thank you. Thank you, Chris.  

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If you're following the book of the hundreds, it's essential that you're you're you're a Christian in good standing and  

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Yes. Absolutely.   So supposedly, there's a book copy of the book   of the hundreds. I've gotta dig that out and take a look at it.  

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I think you can find it online pretty easy. Can't you, Samuel?  

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I think so.   Okay. Yeah. About 300 pages.   What's very interesting in there too is their history of this country,   from their standpoint   is sort of a history buff and it's an   excellent read in itself. That's about one third of it right there.   Then it's about the statutory   abatement, non statutory abatement and the last third is the actual paperwork.   So, it's pretty comprehensive. Alright. Who wrote that? Who wrote this book of the hundreds? Who wrote this book of the hundreds? Who is practicing it though to know   better what you know, I have plenty of questions myself, you know. Uh-huh.  



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Good to hear from you, Jason, by the way. Thanks for sticking your nose in there.   Well,   if, Chris, if you I I thought I put you and Samuel together a while back. I might not have it, but if you wanna drop me an email,   Chris, just say Chris from California. I don't think I've got your email   in my database yet, but I can hook you up with both Samuel and John Kasarab,   who's down there in Riverside County. By the way, I was listening to some we had two back to back callers on,   on,   some show I was listening to from Riverside, California   and, Riverside County, I guess. And the sheriff who was a constitutional   sheriff, I've heard John   speak of him, is running against Gavin Newsom for governor,   so as the guy was saying. So   Yeah. You may have a viable candidate out there next time for that   piece of crap that you yes. You got as a governor.  

God, he's a goofy   yes.  

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You know that statement   yesterday that I asked you for about,   you know,  

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citizenship? Yeah.  

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Sure. You know what what occurred to me is,   you're in court, you're being called up there. Right?   And   you're supposed to   give this in front of the judge.   I'm thinking Correct. You   say your name, I'm a Christian,   solemnly affirm   and hereby declare my intention to be a national,   but not a citizen of The United States.   Right. And you should be done.  

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Well, I mean, aren't you doing that with an affidavit? An affidavit is notarized as court testimony.   So you're doing the same thing, just not in front of a judge.  

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They don't they they deny them when they know what they are and that they're there. So that if it's the first thing you say in court, it's pretty tough to deny when you say it's not. And he did say for the record, by the way, so that it's Yeah. For the record. That's what I was gonna say. Say for the record.  

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But,   yeah. And as that paragraph says above that sentence,   it if you're 18 and you're in the Northern Mariana Islands and six months before your eighteenth birthday to   after your eighteenth birthday, you go in front of a judge and say this,   they Northern Mariana Islands had to be associated with American Samoa at some point, and they must have broken it away. Okay.   That's my feeling on it. I've not researched it heavily.   So anyway, yep, That's all it takes if you're new and listening. That's all it takes to get out of this. I, whatever your name is, do solemnly swear my intent to be a national and not a citizen of The United States. Get it notarized.   Better. You could send it in as a declaration. You can send it in as an affidavit, a little bit better.  

And,   welcome to the Freedom Club.  

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I'm just saying that if it's the first statement you make if you're forced to be there in court Yeah.   That that would be the first statement to make   because   you're you're supposed to make this declaration in front of a judge. Well, you're there. You may as well make your time worthwhile. You know? Yeah. Well, I'm not arguing with you. I'm I'm gonna tell anybody not to do it.  

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Okay.   But God, I hope you can stay out of court.   Oh, it's just such a miserable experience.  

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I've been there and done that, Roger. I don't really wanna go back.  

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No. Don't want to. Me either.   Me either. No fun.  

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Just like Especially  

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yes, Joan?  

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Just like when you're in the army,   name, rank, and serial number.   That's all you have to say and give, and   thank you and goodbye.  

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Yes, ma'am.   Yes, ma'am.   Joan, I wanted to ask you something.   I was thinking about it the other day.   In Costa Rica,   do the girls walk arm in arm?  

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Maybe one in a yeah. I see that in   in a blue moon. Once every blue moon.  

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Yeah. Well, it's pretty common down here. It's even more common in Argentina, but I was just wondering if they were did that in Costa Rica.   And you're going back to,  

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mother.  

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It's like a mother and a daughter maybe. Right. Well, no. Down down there is two girlfriends or whatever, and they're walking along holding hands or or arm in arm. I don't think they're vegetarians.   It's just a thing. They just do it that way, you know.   Yeah.   So okay. Well, thank you. When are you going back to South Carolina?  

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When it's consistently   warm.  

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I see. Okay. Fair enough.   Well, it ain't that yet. So it ain't that yet, so don't be rushing down to make your plane reservation.  

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Yeah. Was that Mercury? Right. And one more thing? Yeah.  

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Yes, ma'am.  

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One more thing. Just what go ahead, Joan.  

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Just, about the property tax, I really appreciated what I can't I don't know if it was Bob or Thomas that said property taxes, the oxymoron.   That was really good. And then but what I'm trying to say is   school taxes,   property   should school taxes should be separate from property taxes, and they should only be,   only parents with children in public school   are supposed to pay,  

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school taxes. Do you yeah. I mean, you already you've already had your children. They're all gone. You're empty nester, and they're making you pay for to just send these kids to school and fill them full of marches pablum?   Ridiculous.   Mirka.  

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Right. I was gonna say,   I think Ken was, trying to get out of that too.   You were talking about,   ladies walking together,   like friends.   Friends.   I see friends doing that here, you know,   like sisters. They're like sisters. They have a friendship like a sister.   Right. I think so. Right.  

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You know? I never saw American   well, I never saw American women do it, but where you are down there in Southern California, there's an awful lot of,   Spanish speaking folks, and maybe they brought that with them in their culture. I've seen it through, you know, different states that I've traveled to.  

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But, yeah, it's more of, the Latin culture.  

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Yep.   Yep. So, anyway, I was just thinking about that the other day, Joan. I wanted to ask you. So   brought that up. Who's got something else I'd like to bring up here this morning? Anything current? Is there things happening while we're on the air that we need to know about, Larry?  

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Yeah. I've always wanted to ask you this. A little while ago, you said you can't stand talking about the driving issue. I think you said that to Chris.  

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I've said it on on the air here a whole bunch because I don't like spending a whole damn show on that crap when you can't get an answer. That's for everybody. I've always been Go ahead.  

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Yeah. I've always been curious. If you were I know I know you have trouble seeing,   but if you were living in The United States, right here, United States Of America,   and you're you're you're still able to drive if you had good vision, would you   be would you have a license, or would you kinda fight it like a lot of the students do?  

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I when I was driving there, I had a fake license,   and I had a bogus tag on my truck.   I never got pulled over,   and it's very interesting. My a friend of mine came up with this story, and it was, out of Turks and Caicos.   And you say, well, we have I I have an investor, and we bought this car here. We're gonna carry it down to the Turks and Caicos, and you had a Turks and Caicos license on it.   And he he had a a way to make a Turks and Caicos fake driver's license.   And I never had to get confronted with that, but that's the way I did the last couple of years, okay, that I lived up there. Now interestingly enough, when I went to Argentina, I kept that license.   And I don't carry a wallet or anything. I just carry folded stuff in my pocket, so,   with a with a clip on it. And so the edges on that driver's license were, coming apart. It was dirty in there, you know, as the lamination peels off and all that stuff.  

And damned if I didn't get in that accident in Argentina with that.   And,   I remember the, the council. The the accident was so bad, somebody in Mendoza had a connection   with the council there. The gal that's accounts the council, I guess, is her pronunciation   in Argentina. And she came up and spent four days up there in Mendoza. It's pretty good ways away,   helping me with this accident because there were other Americans involved.   And, I remember I was waiting to be taken back to the town where I lived, and she had to get a copy of the, of the license.   And she was gone for a really long time.  

And she came back and she said, do you know how hard it is to find a a kiosk with a copier during a siesta?   Because they all do siesta up there. Anyway,   nobody ever caught that. The insurance company didn't catch it. The consul of the embassy didn't catch it. Nobody ever caught it. It was totally   fake for whatever that's worth, Larry.   Well, I if you were literally living here and your eyesight was good, I mean, you you hear all the horror stories of what your students Well, I don't you would well, yeah. You'd have yeah. Well, you have to have a car in The US. That's one of the reasons I like it here is because they've got a fabulous bus service. Taxis and Ubers are dirt cheap,   and I don't have to worry about it.  

If I was up there, you know, maybe a big city, but if you're gonna live in a big city, hell,   I'd have a hard time making it up there on my little measly measly Social Security check, honestly, Larry. But down here, well, hell, man. I live a damn nice life with extra   at the end of the month here.  

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But if you were a millionaire in The States if you were a millionaire in The States, would you have a life driver license and tag? Well, I don't, Joan, I just don't  

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know. Okay. I, I don't, I, I'd rather not,   but I just don't know.   So here I don't have to. It's one of the advantages of living here and, that I like and,   hell, I hope I never have to drive again, quite frankly.  

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Yeah.  

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And I guarantee you, I darn sure like not having to own a car.   Insurance. Of course, you don't have insurance requirements here.   Insurance,   upkeep. What they're what they're really tough on here is an annual examination   of your automobile to make sure everything works correctly.   And they're very strict on it, and they really stick you on it if you miss it. Who was the guy trying to say something there?  

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It's William. I got a question.  

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Yeah. William.  

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I don't mean to change the subject.   But I was wondering, I've been noodling on this for a couple days.   The second half of the first sentence of the fourteenth amendment,   and the state wherein they reside  

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Yes. What,  

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what's your take on that? I mean, why did they include that   in there? You know, why, you know, why did they have to say that? Is that a nod towards   the the other jurisdiction and state citizenship?   Or,   was that just to to draw residency into the amendment? I've well, I can't I can't  

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I can't speak for all their intent. What I've been able to kind of figure out is that they first of all, you've got citizens and you've got legal residents.   Or people that came here, got a green card, went through that. They're not citizens yet. They may be. They may not wanna be. Who knows? I've I've met people up there, lived up there twenty, thirty years and just been legal residents. Never went through the citizenship thing.   But if you're throwing a broad net, think about our guys here, the the bad guys.   They're throwing a very broad net because they wanna catch everybody up in their little administrative   scheme.  

So, obviously, if you're have permission to work there, you're gonna fall under that metric   because you're gonna be paying taxes too. They don't want you coming up there giving you permission to work and then you not being included in the system.   So they're gonna do that, and they're gonna also,   most people are are   residents or, are not citizens,   I think. Most people are residents,   are citizens,   but there are some who aren't.   But they put both of them in there, I think, William, so they could cover both,   both,   citizens and residents.  

Now if you look at the   thirteenth amendment   and and you'll see that it's voluntary, of course, is legal by omission.   And then they've got all of the states there, and that's so they can throw it over the net. They can throw the broad net over the state citizens   and rope them into being federal citizens,   not with the first clause, but with the second clause.   You're talking about the third clause. See, there's two the fourteenth amendment   is the way I've come to understand it, William.   It's a way if you get into law, you'll find out that different laws and different court cases, and they'll go, well, it's a three pronged test or this is a four pronged test. And if you meet all four prongs of the test, then this applies to you. Well, the fourteenth amendment is a two pronged test.   All persons born are naturalized in The United States. Now that, of course, means legal persons.  

And and what they're doing is they're gonna do that for you. They're gonna take care of that for you because they're gonna bankrupt the country, and and they're gonna put everybody into that condition as a surety for the bankruptcy.   And the second part is where the whole thing hinges   is that and subject to the jurisdiction thereof.   And that's the question if you wanna if you wanna get into this with someone like that magistrate or if you're talking with the tax guy, what what is and subject to the jurisdiction thereof? What makes somebody subject?   Because it says and. It doesn't say are all persons born and naturalized are citizens of The United States. That's an affirmative   statement. This says and. And if there's some that are and subject, William,   aren't there some by default that are and not subject?  

Yeah.   Okay. If there's some that are subject, there's gotta be some that aren't and subject to the jurisdiction thereof.   So,   and they didn't wanna put the word resident there because it sticks out like a sore thumb. They wanna put the and the state wherein they reside.   So they've hidden it.   I remember when Ralph Winteraugt was alive   on that did that Sunday night show on RBN.   And, our old listener, Daryl,   who used to hang around with us here and doesn't anymore,   was listening to him and and went around, made the statement. He said the word resident has nothing to do with this, with taxes.   And so   Wayne,   Daryl called in and confront and got him on and he's had him read the fourteenth amendment.  

And he said when he got to that and the state wherein they reside,   he just went dead silent.   Okay?   There it is right there. But I believe they did it for a couple of reasons. Now this is also interesting, William.   When they ask you the two questions, are you a citizen of The United States? Are you a resident?   Has anybody ever seen them put a state with that? Are you a resident of?   I've never seen it.   Okay?   So they're using that term   to buttress you as a resident   and to,   suck you into Washington DC   because it doesn't have any thing to do with where you live.   It has to do with what laws you're under.  

And it it And see even the guy   pardon me?  

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It's a capital s state, and we know that's e c. And but prior to the fourteenth,   you know, United States was capitalized, and and the states were capitalized   as well. So it's just a little confusing whether they're Well,  

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let me referring to the state's jurisdiction or Well, let me give you an example. Let me give you an example of some of the confusion. This comes from the celebrated justice story.   I think he was chief justice of the Supreme Court back around late seventeen hundreds, early '18 hundreds, and he wrote a book called Commentaries on the Constitution.   And there's a statement in there. It says a citizen of the state is ipso facto a citizen of The United States.   Now this is chief justice of the Supreme Court. But you see back then there wasn't two statuses.   So when he said   ipso facto a citizen of The United States, everybody knew what he was talking about   because there was only one.  

K? So, yeah, there's some of that in in the old history books, and I I I don't know how to deal with it either, William, quite frankly. Okay. Other than apply what we know as the modern definition and just go, well, this times were different back then.  

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Right.   I get I get this flyer from, you know, Hillsdale College. I'm sure you've heard of that. I've heard of them. Yeah.   They're constitutional.  

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You know, they give constitutional classes. They take no federal money. Hillsdale College. Barnes   goes and does,  

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stuff where you can raise money for them all the time. I know. Go ahead. I get I get I get their I guess it's, like, quarterly flyer, and they usually   bring up a topic. Well, I was I was reading the one from the end of last year,   and it was talking about religious liberty and the founding of of America.   And,   and it it starts out talking about,   how,   George Washington had a letter written to him   from one of the leaders of the Jewish community   thanking him and congratulating on his conduct as president,   and he had responded   with this letter.  

And the whole article basically talks about how there's a religious,   a religious jurisdiction and then a civil jurisdiction.   I think this kinda goes back to your Lex Rex,   you know,   teachings and how it you know, you you have a you have God and nature's law, and then you have, you know, government and in two separate jurisdictions, and how do those coincide? And that's what the whole whole article is pretty good.  

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William, was he addressing   was he addressing a rabbi in Newport, Rhode Island?   Let's see what it says. Yep. Newport, Rhode Island. Yep. There you go. Okay. That was the very you you know that was the first synagogue in the country, Newport, Rhode Island. You know why?  

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No.  

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It's because Newport was a port where all the slaves came over.   So they had a Jewish synagogue.  

[01:36:32] Unknown:

Well, the first sentence of the response the first sentence of the response is the citizens of The United States Of America have a right to applaud themselves   for having given to mankind examples   of an enlarged and liberal policy,   a policy of work worthy of imitation.   So it's just and he says all possess alike liberty   of conscious and immunities of citizenship.   So he he goes down through here, and he talks about United States citizenship.  

[01:37:02] Unknown:

Well, there wasn't United States there but there wasn't United States citizenship. There was citizenship of a state.   There was no federal citizenship then.  

[01:37:13] Unknown:

Right.   I guess, like, the   citizens of The United States Of America.  

[01:37:18] Unknown:

Yeah. They're mixing metaphors.   And and if you're gonna go read back in there, you gotta realize that there wasn't a second status yet.   So there was only one.  

[01:37:31] Unknown:

Right.   And it's interesting. I read these articles and and knowing what we know and what you teach,   they're just miss missing a a huge piece of the pie.   And I read it, and I'm like, man, this is like, you were talking about Barnes and them the other day talking about the fourteenth amendment and how they're dancing all around it, but they just they don't seem to  

[01:37:54] Unknown:

Amazing. To put their fingers in the box. Here, we just got and they're all that they're you know what they're missing?   They're missing asking the right question.   Now these are skilled attorneys.   Okay? And the right question is,   where else in history is this ever been the rule in a society or a structure?   All you gotta do is ask that question right there, and it answers everything.   Yep.   That's all. But they don't ask it. They get they get right above it, man. They get a a silly millimeter above it, and they just don't ask the right question. And nobody does. Now I heard who is it? Who is it? I think it was on Barnes on Sunday night. They were talking about Eastman.   You're familiar with, this attorney named Eastman who's a real good friend of Trump's.  

They're trying to debar him.   And he did evidently Barnes said last weekend, he I I think maybe his name's Robert Eastman, did something,   a really good program on this birthright citizenship. And I couldn't figure out he didn't say where it was, but I would love if somebody stumbles on that. Please drop it to me. I'd love to hear what he has to say. He's quite a celebrated attorney,   and they hate him trying to debar him. That tells you how good he is.   And I'd like to hear his observations on that. But, boy, Levin and and Barnes said, just like you said, they were all over that, man. It's just one little   hairs width question, and they'd had it. They didn't get it. They walked away. And as I saw Barnes on there one night couple of years ago when I first started talking,   listening to him, and I they were going over a couple of these affirmative action cases, decisions,   with the Supreme Court a couple years ago. And Barnes is just like he's beaming, man. He's just beaming. And he goes, yep. Fourteenth amendment was the great equalizer.  

She's got it there too,   but he doesn't see the other side.  

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Right.  

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Yeah. It equalizes   all down into slaves, Barnes. How about that?  

[01:39:58] Unknown:

Right.   Yeah. One of these other articles that you're talking about how the ATF had gone in and,   raided these people's houses   and, you know, shot these people and killed these people. And it's like, you know what? You know, how can we stop this out of control   agencies and these government, you know, agencies, and how can we stop all this?   It's like, man, I mean, you're a constitutional   college. You know? Like,   I mean, the answer's right there.  

[01:40:26] Unknown:

Yeah. And, also, there's a lot of debate going on about ATF right now.   I think they're over under the FBI. Are they under the FBI or just under Department of Justice? Does anybody know for sure?   Not sure.   Anyway, there's a lot of   dissension because there's such a badass little agency of Ruby Ridge and Waco and   all the rest of the crap they do,   as to who's gonna have them,   and what's gonna happen. So I think that's probably still being worked out.   I know that black guy that has a gun place in Houston. Not in Houston. It's in Austin. So pretty close to Infowars.   His name starts with a c, and I can't think of it. Somebody will know here.  

But they were floating the idea that they're gonna put him   as the head of the FBI I mean, ATF.   Boy, that'd get their sphincter muscles percolating,  

[01:41:25] Unknown:

wouldn't it?   Yeah. I was trying to explain this national status to a friend of mine who's an FFL,   federal firearms license holder, as a dealer.   And, he's like, I'm not sure how this would affect my FFL. I'm like, you don't need it anymore.  

[01:41:40] Unknown:

That's right. You don't need it.   No effect on you at all. They  

[01:41:44] Unknown:

they they can't,   they can't affect your ability to contract. I mean, that's in the constitution   with your fellow man.   So you don't need it anymore.  

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And they find that see because they've been so conditioned into it just like buyers.   They just find that impossible to believe.  

[01:42:03] Unknown:

Yeah.  

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I wish somebody Tell him. That, you know. Tell him about the story about Maryland up in the Kentucky. William, you remember that? Yeah. You heard about Yeah. Yeah. Tell him that story right there. The FBI,   they the police told her to contact the FBI. They wouldn't return a phone call. She wrote him a letter and they wrote back, so we don't have anything to do with this.  

[01:42:27] Unknown:

Unbelievable.  

[01:42:30] Unknown:

So how's everything else going, William?  

[01:42:33] Unknown:

It's going good. It's going good. I'm in, I'm actually in Austin, Texas today.  

[01:42:38] Unknown:

Oh, are you?   Yeah. Well, drop by and see Alex.  

[01:42:43] Unknown:

That's right.   I did on my tax case. I did get a I did get a tribunal court date,   a tribunal date of, I think, it's August 5.  

[01:42:54] Unknown:

August fifth. They're putting you off that far?  

[01:42:57] Unknown:

Yeah. That far. Yep. Wow.  

[01:43:01] Unknown:

William's trying to get some ad valorem tax back on an automobile he bought. So, well, keep us on the loop. About yeah, we're talking about property taxes earlier, and, property doesn't pay the tax. We do. And Yes. We're not taxed. Well, that's the well, that's why it's called property tax.   Right.  

[01:43:22] Unknown:

So I feel like if you if if I can if I can make inroads   on personal property, I don't see why it wouldn't apply to to real property. So Yeah.  

[01:43:35] Unknown:

Well, again, it's   something's got this all to do with you being born and agreeing to be a slave and all this tax stuff. Okay? And I don't know that we've got all the keys yet, but that sure seems to be a prerequisite.  

[01:43:51] Unknown:

Yeah.   Yeah. I always post that, senate resolution, the 1933,  

[01:43:57] Unknown:

the copyright 90HHJR192.   Isn't that it?  

[01:44:02] Unknown:

I think it is. Senate resolution 62 or something. But, I always post I always post that excerpt whenever anybody's talking about property taxes on on the Internet. I always just post that. I'm like, well, you know, here it is. You know, you don't have any property ownership.  

[01:44:18] Unknown:

Yep.   If you think you do, just pay off your house and don't pay the taxes. You'll see who owns it.  

[01:44:24] Unknown:

Right. Exactly.   So nobody's ever had any success with the with bringing the land patent forward?   I think that I personally found something that's the wrong approach. I think,   I think we need to work on our own our jurisdiction as a national   the state's jurisdiction over us as a national. We don't have to pay the tax. Just like we don't owe the income tax, we don't owe the we don't owe the property tax either.   Yeah. But, you know, all the states are different jurisdictions,   in a way, but they're all federal. So  

[01:44:57] Unknown:

I have on this, elodial title thing, I have known one person that truly did it. I've told the story on here a number of times. He was a student of Al Attis, if you know who Al is or what. No. Al's still with us.   He was out in Oregon, and and he was a big, student of Al's. He said, well, because Al's kept talking about the sandbox cat box that he lived in in Fort Worth. And he said, well, I'm building a cabin on my land, and you're welcome to come out here, and I'll let you live in it for free. And Al took him up on it. And they finished out the cabin, and he and Al were working on it. And   they attached a a,   natural   gas water heater, and they must have had a leak somewhere   because that night, the cabin caught fire. It was right next to the road at the edge of the property.  

They called the fire department, and the fire department came out and on the road, and they came down and said, we can't come on your property. You're not on the property rolls. And the how and the cabin burned down. K? So that's one of the things if you do achieve that.   Go stroke the stroke the,   stroke the fire department two hundred and fifty, five hundred dollars a year or something. So if my house burns, look, I support you. I've just got this other stance, but I want you to come help me. So in essence, you'll still be paying property taxes, won't you?  

[01:46:22] Unknown:

Yep.  

[01:46:25] Unknown:

Roger.  

[01:46:27] Unknown:

Alright. Are you Larry and Samuel both. Go ahead. Samuel?  

[01:46:33] Unknown:

No. Sheldon is that Al Addis? Is that the Alfred Addis that still has a program on American Voice Radio?  

[01:46:40] Unknown:

I don't know. Does he?  

[01:46:43] Unknown:

Well, he does. I'm just wondering if Al and Alfred are the same.   Yeah. He's still on there about a couple times a week.  

[01:46:50] Unknown:

Okay. Well, I I did not know that. I didn't know he was still active and,   yes, that would be the same Alice, Addis, who   a man and other animals defense, if you haven't heard of that.   As it dealt with, the Food and Drug Administration   and they dropped that case.   Yeah. But, yeah. I'm I'm sure the same one. He's a really good guy. I enjoyed doing shows with him. I knew he was still alive, but I did not know he was still on the air.  

[01:47:20] Unknown:

He he used to share with,   Mel Melody Cedarston.   And they his first show, and then he departed. And now he's got his own show over there. So yeah. Okay. Thank you. I remember that. Okay. No problem. Yeah. Nice guy.  

[01:47:35] Unknown:

I would we were supposed to do a a a dual duet show, and he backed out at the last moment and left me hanging there by myself. And I already had made all the arrangements. Everything was set up. So I said, well, I guess I'll do a solo show, and here we are all those years later.   That was about in   02/2011,   I think, is when that happened.  

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Okay. That's about when I picked him up. Thank you, sir.  

[01:48:04] Unknown:

Okay. Yeah. Al's a good guy. Hello.  

[01:48:07] Unknown:

Yes. Chris, is that you? Yeah. Yes. This is Chris. Yeah. Yeah. I was looking through my notes for your,   your email address.   What is it? Radioranchradioranch,nospace,@mail,mail,notgmail,mail,mail,.com.  

[01:48:29] Unknown:

Radio ranch, no space, at mail dot com.   And just say Chris from California in the subject line. Okay? Yes.  

[01:48:37] Unknown:

Yes. Thank you. Okay. You're welcome.  

[01:48:40] Unknown:

Who else? There's two people wanting to say something a minute ago.   Samuel, was did he get you? Larry,   come on, man.  

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Yeah.   Question for William.   He said he's had some type of hearing coming up or tribunal. Is that a hearing   before a judge? And if so,   could he record it?   I'd like to  

[01:49:02] Unknown:

watch it or listen to it. It's gonna be in August. It's an administrative   appeal. I doubt if there's a judge there,   but there may be. I don't know if it's an administrative judge type situation   or a panel. Do you know, William, by any chance?  

[01:49:16] Unknown:

My understanding is it's a panel,   and, I'm not sure if they'll let me record or not. But if they if they do, I will.   It says it's an in person hearing in Fulton County   in the lion's den. Uh-oh.  

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Well, you don't get much more corrupt in Fulton County.  

[01:49:35] Unknown:

Right. Is that considered a a public hearing room that you're gonna be in? Because you could record in public.  

[01:49:42] Unknown:

I'm not sure.   I know if they don't rule in my favor,   I can appeal it to the security court. Appeal that? Okay. Yeah. There there you take it to court.  

[01:49:53] Unknown:

Okay. And the reason is because you've exhausted your administrative appeals if they rule against you at that point. William, did you hear the what they found out about Stacey Abrams the other day? Did you hear us talking about that?  

[01:50:05] Unknown:

I heard a bunch of rumblings,   and I've read a bunch of things that they're starting to   uncover. All her,   political action committees and,   what do they call them? NGOs and Yeah. Her sister's involvement and all that stuff starting to come to the church. She's a judge. Her sister's a judge appointed by Obama.  

[01:50:23] Unknown:

They found $2,000,000,000   in nongovernmental   entities given to her.   Billion with a b.  

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And she had a I think she started it with a hundred dollars or something.  

[01:50:36] Unknown:

Probably.   Good lord. These people are just   they're repulsive, these these these Democrats.  

[01:50:43] Unknown:

Well, I know I know I know a friend of mine, like, one of the owners of the aircraft that I fly, he he was gonna run for governor against Kemp. And,   he said Kemp is is corrupt as they come.   You know, they're Yeah. He's he's in just he's in just as deep. When we had the,   the, Senate election,  

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Oh, yeah, for the,   with Warnock.  

[01:51:07] Unknown:

With, yeah, Warnock and,   I have to get another guy's name. Herschel. Yeah. Yep. Yep. Wait. How could you forget Herschel Walker, man?   So there no. No. I was talking about the other senator,   Democratic senator, because both senators' seats went to Oh, Ossoff. Ossoff.   That's right. Yep.   A little trash bag, baby.   That was a backroom deal. I'll stay governor. You,   the Democrats can have this the senate seats.   That was a backroom deal.  

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Well, Kemp, I hope they run your ass out of town this time in Raffensperger too.   I mean, I can't believe the state I lived in for thirty years, Georgia, which I really have special attachments to, has become so damn corrupt and blue. And my friend there said   yeah. Go  

[01:51:57] Unknown:

ahead. Oh, when they killed Nathan Deal's,   the grandson. Do you remember all that?   Oh, yeah. Down there, at Brown State Road or something. Yeah. He was on I 16, and, he had he had a newer BMW, I think it was, or some kind of luxury car. And a 18 wheeler bumped into him, and the car exploded.   There was nothing left. I mean, there was just a greasy spot on I 16.   And rumor was that there was an it was an airstrike. I don't know.   But it it it looks like it. I mean, it looks like there's nothing left of the car, but that wasn't an that wasn't an accident. That was a message. Yeah. You bet you bet it was, and it was all revolving around Trump getting Georgia, wasn't it?   Yep. And then, well,   with Kemp and with the election and Ossoff and,   and Warnock and all that was all going on. And then, you know, there's a lot of pressure on him to audit the election after the Fulton County   ballot incident   and, broken water main and all that. And,   I think the Chinese basically told him you don't   here's a message. You don't audit anything. And,   the the the   Georgia   GBI agent that was investigating it,   committed suicide and ended up decapitated.  



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Right. Yep.   And so Yeah. That's really neat.  

[01:53:19] Unknown:

Was yeah. My buddy that was running for governor,   he he called in this,   as kind of a protection.   I don't know what you call it. Like, a private,   security agency that were, you know, ex   secret service and all that. And and they came in and quoted him a price to give him security through his campaign for governor, and then he said, well, I'd like you guys to look into this.   And then they came back and said, okay.   There's a lot more going on here, and we're gonna need your key employees to take different ways to work every day, and we're gonna need to   they don't they don't take out, you know, your your immediate family. They take out your key employees and things like that. So   it it it it was ugly. So he's   he he kinda had a a come to come to Jesus with him and his wife and   just said it's just not worth it right now. So,   maybe at the next election, he'll he'll run.  



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Like, I hope he does.   My friend who's there in Georgia said they turned the state on,   tax credits   as Hollywood came in, and they started doing a bunch of tax credits and stuff, and that that was how they turned the state to blue.   I I don't know any more details than that right there. I thought it was interesting, though. Come back to something to do with taxes, of course.  

[01:54:37] Unknown:

All these TV shows, did you see the the Georgia peach at the end and, you know, it's part of the   part of the corruption.  

[01:54:44] Unknown:

Yeah. And they're using Georgia for a lot of movies, have been for a few years now.   Yep. Oh, good. Oh, good. Oh, good Hollywood again.   It just always goes back to the same creeps, doesn't it?  

[01:54:56] Unknown:

Well, it does. It does.  

[01:54:59] Unknown:

Hey, Roger. We'll get you. You guys are listening. We're gonna get you. Boy, I wanted you just a second, Larry. I heard something last night or today.   Prager you.   Prager you. Right?   You know Prager's a Jew. Right?  

[01:55:14] Unknown:

Right.  

[01:55:16] Unknown:

He has he has hired the gal,   Israeli,   who was over Section 8200   in the Israeli,   bunch over there who's a lot of cyber stuff and all this stuff. She's now   some kind of real hierarchical position at Prager University.   Very disappointing.   Yes, Larry.  

[01:55:39] Unknown:

Yeah. I just looked it up. And, William,   I'd suggest that you hire a court   recorder or a reporter,   and they they can record it all. Like, they they have this little typewriter, and they they type on they type in a transcript.   And, it looks like it costs $43   an hour to hire someone.   And it's my understanding that if you're going to do that, all you got to do is provide notice to all parties   that will be involved in this   if you want to call it a hearing.   And you just provide notice that you're going to have this thing recorded because   you'll have a much more greater advantage if you have a transcript if you're gonna appeal this to a higher level.  



[01:56:19] Unknown:

Probably not a bad idea, William.   I wouldn't think that hearing, it lasts over an hour. I wouldn't even think it lasts thirty minutes, quite frankly.  

[01:56:29] Unknown:

Yeah. I think,   I think   well, they got it remanded right now to the revenue department for up to ninety days.  

[01:56:37] Unknown:

Uh-huh.  

[01:56:39] Unknown:

So that we gotta wait on that, wait on the revenue department to make   a secondary determination.  

[01:56:45] Unknown:

This is kind of a good battle to fight here because there's really no downside. You've already paid the tax on the thing. All you're doing is going there and saying, I shouldn't have paid it, and I want it back. And if they say no, then they say no, and everybody goes their separate ways, you know, unless you wanna appeal it. But this is a a good battle to fight here,   rather than I'm gonna do 95   right through downtown,   see if they get me. No. Don't do that.   Okay? Alright.   Alright.  

[01:57:16] Unknown:

Yeah. That's why I thought it would be a good chance to to put them on their toes and put this information in front of them and say, hey, either   you accept me for what I say I am or or you're gonna be a tyrant. You know? Yeah.  

[01:57:30] Unknown:

Cool. So I just man, we got educated people all over the place now, and folks are starting to really get their arms around this and make it part of their lives. And,   I'm just so proud of all of you, really.   I don't know where this will go, but I I I think we've got some really big things down the road for us.   And that's why that rents thing is so important. The more exposure we can get,   better off we are. Okay? Even Well, I explained it. Because we can do things that we he can't do. Go ahead, William. I explained it I explained it last night, and I explained it to another gentleman  

[01:58:06] Unknown:

about a week ago that I was fine with. And   they're like, holy shit. My head's spinning. I'm sorry for language. I said, man, my head's spinning. Yeah. Yeah. It's alright. Okay. Yep. Yeah.   And I said, you know, I wanna go back in and look at it myself. And I'm like, yeah. Make the information yours. You know?   Don't take my word for it.  

[01:58:25] Unknown:

One at a time. You eat an elephant one bite at a time. That's how we've had to build this, folks.   It's taken a long time, fifteen years to get us to this point.   More than that, really, but publicly.   Yes, Larry?  

[01:58:40] Unknown:

Yeah. Before the show ends, I wanna get this in real quick. To answer Bob's question earlier, the the,   Florida Homestead Exemption is built into the Florida constitution   at article 10 section five,   and he could read about it right there.  

[01:58:55] Unknown:

Okay. Thank you, Larry.   So, listen. Well, I'm gonna dart out of here. I can't hang around with you today because it's Tuesday, but we'll be back tomorrow on Wednesday, and we'll see what happens in the big picture   of the Trump Trump kick ass deal going on.   And it's just really exciting, man. I mean, really.   Whether he's got the Zionist in there or not, he he's really doing some   cutting edge stuff that would be well, you can see it's against the other Zionist. I mean, they're Zionist too.   They're just a little different color   of Zionist. They're more liberal.  

But,   anyway, I think things are going along in a pretty good trajectory.   As I've said several times, I never thought I'd see this day in my entire lifetime. So it's a blessing from that standpoint.   We'll cross our fingers and, pray for God to interact with these people and bring them to their senses.   And otherwise than that, you guys have a wonderful   day, and,   we'll, be seeing you tomorrow, hopefully.   Everything works out. We should be here. Try and be consistent,   and, we'll see you all soon. Thank you.   Alright. Paulo.  

There's, there's the dinner bell ringing. Sketch's ringing the dinner bell for me. So we've clouded up. We lost our sunshine. It's clouded up again. So   be glad when we get through this period, our little winter period, I guess you could call it. So anybody else got anything really important for me before I dart out of here?  

[02:00:31] Unknown:

I sent you that, doctor,   John,   Eastman video.  

[02:00:36] Unknown:

Oh, did you? Thank you. Thank you, Sketch. Who who who's interviewing him?  

[02:00:41] Unknown:

It's   I did not watch it, but I found it, and it's on the fourth, the eighteenth amendment, birthright citizenship.   So I guess that's the one you wanted.  

[02:00:50] Unknown:

Alright. Well, I'll I'll try and, preview it here. And if it's important, we'll play it tomorrow. Okay?   So, anyway, I'll, see y'all tomorrow. Have a fabulous day and love each and every one of you. And,   I'm just so proud of what we got going here and, the quality of people that that this is,   that this resonates with. Yes, sir, Paul.  

[02:01:15] Unknown:

Have fun.   Enjoy yourself managing   your way through the period of escalating   at appetite.  

[02:01:24] Unknown:

Yes. Well, hopefully, it'd be diminishing appetite here.   And I enjoy there's one Canadian guy that there there that he and I   he's a Russia folk too,   or or a liker of Russia and Putin and quite knowledgeable. And it's nice to have discussions with him   about current, worldwide geopolitical stuff.   So, anyway, I'll, see you all tomorrow, and we'll, see if we're gonna play this Eastman theme or not. And thank you, Sketch, and thank you, everybody. And I hope you got something out of today's show. So ciao ciao. See you later. Bye. Love you.  

[02:02:00] Unknown:

Take care, Raj.   Alright. And,   because I am,   I am I am still in the midst of dealing with all kinds of interesting stuff. Kitty, you get down. You dig your claws in my shin one more time. You're gonna be down to eight lives.   Anyways,   that's it for the Radio Ranch with Roger Sales on Eurofolkradio.com   and Global Voice   Global   Voice Radio Network. Catch us here Monday through Saturday, 11AM to 1PM eastern. For more information   on the topics discussed, please go to the matrix   docs.   Thematrix,d0cs,.com.   You can find links to the live stream. You can find links to join us on your free conference call. You can also find interviews   downloaded downloadables   and   exhibits to support your path to freedom, your personal path to freedom.  

Thanks so much for joining us today. We'll catch you right back here tomorrow,   11AM   sharp  

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on the Radio Ranch with Roger Sale. Blasting the voice of freedom worldwide, you're listening to the Global Voice Radio Network.  

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Bye bye, boys. Have fun storming the castle.