In this episode of the Radio Ranch, we delve into a wide array of topics ranging from geopolitical discussions to personal anecdotes. We kick off with a conversation about the Global Voice Radio Network and its support for political figures like Trump. The discussion shifts to economic updates, including the impact of refinery changes on silver prices.
Technical difficulties are humorously addressed as a cat disrupts a radio studio, leading to a shift in broadcasting platforms. The hosts engage in light-hearted banter about weather conditions and personal stories, including a humorous mix-up involving a cat and a landlord.
The episode takes a serious turn with an in-depth discussion on the Clergy Plan, a controversial topic involving migration and conspiracy theories. The conversation expands to include geopolitical tensions, particularly focusing on Ukraine and Russia, with historical insights and current political dynamics.
Aviation incidents are analyzed, including a recent plane crash in Toronto, sparking discussions on aviation safety and pilot experiences. The hosts share personal stories and insights into aircraft technology and historical crashes.
The episode also touches on the complexities of international relations, with a focus on the Middle East, Israel, and Iran. The hosts discuss historical conflicts, political strategies, and the influence of Zionism.
Listeners are engaged with discussions on legal processes, citizenship, and the intricacies of national status. The episode concludes with a lively after-show discussion, where listeners share their experiences and questions, ranging from legal advice to personal anecdotes.
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Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. We do it too. We're gonna we're gonna get behind mister Trump and his cadre of, reformers and see if we can push them up the hill. Another two hours here at the Radio Ranch on Wednesday, I believe, Miraculous. The Wednesday edition, the two that's February. Two, 02/19. Twenty '5. Roger Sales, your host. You've got one more day, Paul, before the biggest refinery in the world, adds 10% to its silver price and its gold price too, but the impact is on silver. So, we're with a bunch of folks today that help us out and extend our reach, and they take our elbows and, like, come on. Let's get it a little further. And, we certainly wanna give them credit. So if you would, mister Meener.
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Hey. I would I would be happy to do that. Mhmm. I am I'm still dodging raindrops, but, we are making we are making progress. We're we're moving forward. And I did get, notification that the WDRN studios, will not be with us today because, the studio suffered a domestic accident. Apparently, a cat walked across an audio board, and now nothing's working. So Oh my god. We we are on radiosoapbox.com, thanks to our buddy Paul across the pond. And we're on eurofolkradio.com, thanks to pastor Eli James. We're also on Global Voice Radio Network, courtesy of me me me me me me. And you can find links to those services as well as the links to free conference call to join us live on the show on the matrixdocs.com.
That is the matrix,d0cs,.com. Yeehaw.
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Good morning, Rob. Hey, Paul. So you're you're dripping again from the roof. You're not snowing with 12 inches, or what what's the status on the what's the prognostica up there?
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The the dripping roof is the result of the, like, 12 inches of freaking snow we got yesterday. Yeah. And now that's melting. And it's really, really hard to do anything about that, until, like, you know, you stop it at the source, and then you can, like, go down the thing. But we're also having to deal with some of the later
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issues, like with ceilings and things like that. It's all good. We're we're diligent with for the guy who's not very good for the guy that owns the house, but maybe good for you No. Hopefully.
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No. No. And and she's here helping me, move some stuff out of the way so the guy can come in and look at the ceiling. Oh, the landlord. I thought you were referring to Kitty. Well, Kitty's just laying on the lazy boy. She's happy. She's fat and happy.
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Okay. Yeah. Alright. Well, good morning, Wednesday. The middle of the week here, The Colergy Plan. Anybody know anything about the Colergy Plan? You know about that, Paul?
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No. I have not heard about that. And because I'm gonna be running around doing things now, so I may not be I may not be available.
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I see. For me, for my little bounce off my sidekick questions. Right? Yeah. I'm yeah. I'm sorry. Alright. Well, I'll just pick somebody else. Okay. Pick pick one somebody. Probably pick you up. Just just for poops and giggles, I'll probably pick Julie. Go ahead. Who was gonna say something there?
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I said we're getting snow flurries here in South Texas.
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Oh, it's Tom. Hey, Tom. Snow flurries in Texas. Well, that's not absolutely unusual, but doesn't happen every day.
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No. I haven't seen it for several years. The last one we had was in Round Rock, that bad ice storm we had in '20 Oh, yeah. I remember that. We shut down the whole state.
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So it's not a phenomena. It's not a phenomena that you're getting a little dusting today. John, used to use that word in this example. He said, if you, Tom, if you were walking up through the woods and you came upon a clearing and in the middle of the clearing sat a bear, that would not be a phenomena. However, if you walk down the path and you saw a clearing and there was a bear in there eating and picking leaves off a daisy, that would be a phenomenon. Right? Just for your differentiation here. So, well, good morning. Clergy, you know who the clergy plan is, Tom?
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No. I don't. Yeah. I do. Clergy was a guy in Europe back in I bet you somebody in the audience knows. I do. Back in the '20 yeah. Julie does. Well, Julie, why don't you tell us what the clergy plan is, please? I know. I think it's to replace the the white people and for the future to all be mixed race or something like that, and they're calling it a conspiracy theory, and it's happening in our country right now.
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Yeah. Well, he was European, and he said the only way to take down Europe was to invade them with migrants, which is what we're living through on both continents here. A little I I'm pretty I'm pretty sure he's probably of the ethnic variety, which we identify with this kind of mischievous activity. So that was interesting. Now I don't know, Paul. Paul, are you Paul's running around. I forgot. I'm sorry. You know, Ferris and I guess Ferris is probably listening. You never know. Now Ferris is, someone that was referred to us by lady Linda. And, she's tried to make up for that by sending us Dan and the other people. It's kind of the opposite swing of the pendulum there. But Ferris, for those of you and Julie, I don't think you were here when, when Ferris first started coming around a few months ago.
But he came on and started bashing women. Now we did find out that he's married, and we did find out that he's got a daughter who incidentally is an attorney. And, so that upset the that upset the Indians for a while, because he now he's not that he was really wrong, honestly, in my opinion. I mean, you look back historically and see a lot of the things he was talking about, but he definitely, well, he got some of the gals with their bustles, pretty upset. Okay? And in fact, Murr, Murr stopped listening to the program where she might listen, but she hadn't participated anymore, because of Farris. So he's quite controversial, Julie.
And I've mentioned before when he comes on that I've never seen anybody that can disrupt a radio show like Farris can, quite frankly. And then and then occasionally he adds something positive. He did bring us, lesbians in positions of power. That's pretty good. We don't want we don't want we don't want any lip, you know? So that was a positive contribution. Well, here, right before we went on the air, did y'all hear about, the plane crash in Toronto Two Days ago? No? Yes. You didn't? You did? Okay. Uh-huh. And it was in Toronto. It was a Delta flight, but it was owned by a company named Endeavor. I heard it was a Delta flight early on in the just people mentioning it. And then, today, I saw a little bit more in-depth information with a with a TV commercial they had made for this company endeavor.
You saw the plane was flipped upside down?
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Have you ever seen a plane get flipped up? Pardon me? I did. I said I did see that. I forgot about that. Yeah. It was upside down.
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Yeah. I I don't remember hardly ever seeing a plane flip upside down before. Do you?
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No. No. Not at all. I'm just wondering if you went to TTI or something like that.
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No. No. It's an so we we agree that it's a pretty unusual occurrence. Right?
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Correct.
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Well, Endeavor you know, I saw their little promo. Harrison played it here just so I was listening before I came over here. Well, here Endeavor boasts, all female pilots and all female flight crew. So I'll let you draw your own conclusions from that. Uh-oh. But, evidently, that's the story on that. And, overachievers I'll get you in a second, Joe. Overachievers, Joe, have you ever seen a plane flipped upside down on the runway for? You're a pilot. Right? That's that that's correct.
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And my observation, my casual offers observation from what I can see on the news footage is to me, I think they had a catastrophic failure of the wing because name? I I have never seen a wing separate from the fuselage in that fashion. Uh-huh. And the rate of speed was such that, the left wing was still generating lift, and that's what put it on its back. And put it that's probably correct. It's probably a very, very good and accurate analysis. Because without that wing separating, it couldn't have turned over. It just it just that's something you've never seen in mind.
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Never seen it before. Okay? And I think your explanation is probably accurate now. I did not see a good enough picture to see that the, wing had been severed from the fuselage.
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Even if the landing gear failed, the wing would have kept it from turning rolling over on its back. So Right. Now you know the miracle. What what caused the wing separation?
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Well, that's the question now, isn't it? And and I hope we get some more answers as this goes forward. I'm I'm sure they'll probably investigate it, but it was in Canada and, at Toronto. So I don't know about that, but it definitely and the little jingle that the this company Endeavor, I believe, is the name of it produced. And the pilots female pilots there with a mask on going, we wanna fly to die or something. It's got something about death in there. And, just watch who you fly with, folks. Be a good idea if you fly at all. Comment?
Yes, Tom.
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Yeah. I, I worked for McDonnell Douglas Northrop, building the first nine, f 18 Hornets in Pecks River, Maryland back in the eighties. And we had, one of the birds go up for a test flight, And we're standing there at the hangar door watching and watching the go around and was doing some maneuvers. And all of a sudden, we see, like, something fall from the plane. And we jumped in the yellow truck and ran out there. It was the right main landing gear. It fell out. And, and so they they flew it around for, like, an hour or so circle and tried to figure out how we're gonna get this thing down. Wow. Wow. You know? Wrecking it. And they finally decided to foam the runway, and they brought it in on two legs. And even though it rode on that that starboard wing, it rode all the way in, for several hundred feet.
It the the wing the wing didn't snap off or anything like that. Wow. That's a really cool plane. I mean, it it was amazing machine. Mhmm. They they built it to be a dual a dual fighter attack craft. So it was fine as a fighter and then they started loading it up with ordinance and the thing started getting cracks. So what they had to do is they beefed it up you know, where the cracks were happening and just really improved the superstructure. And then it got to be was just too heavy to be a fighter, so then they came out with Super Hornet and solved all those problems. But that was amazing bird. I actually got to fly in one with knew something else. And, I got to fly in a Harrier, a two seater Harrier
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that we were working on. That's the one that vertical take off. Right? That's the one that does vertical take off. Oh, yeah. I I
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I I saw them at Cherry Point, and they had this ramp that they made for this thing. And it you would load that thing up with ordinance, and they would they would put that thing in, like, forward lift, and they would they would just roll down and hit that ramp, and it would just kind of throw them into the air, man. It was scary as shit. And, oops, sorry about that. But we had one crash through the hangar in Cherry Point. They crashed in, the guy was doing the pilot was doing something and he was out there on the tarmac doing just hovers.
Somehow, he I never did find out how because they didn't have cameras back then And we were we were working on stuff in the hangar, and we just decided to sneak out early for lunch. And, all of a sudden, this bird comes flying towards the hangar, and it it bent I don't know if you ever seen the hangar door, but the things are about a foot thick. And it bent those it bent that door like it was tin can right inside the hangar was an A four, it was up on jacks, it knocked that thing off the jacks. It got in about the middle of the hangar and just it blew up then the then the fuse, you know, in front of it and maybe went through the other hangar door out, you know, went through the hangar and out the other door, bent that door going out and landed in the in the parking lot, Cars, trucks, motorcycles, everything up in flames. Yeah. Boy, that was that was the day I was glad I didn't park out there. That's a we're a real estate marketer.
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It's a day like Trump and the assassination. You look up and go thank you, Lord. Right?
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Yeah. Well, that's one of those days you get feet don't fail me now. Yeah. Right. But it was a mess. That was a mess. It took them like it was like a week before it was ever even in the newspaper. So that's nice. That was great. That was cherry cherry point cherry point.
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I see. What a He just gave us a title of a great song feats don't fail me now by little feet. I don't know if y'all remember those guys from the seventies. They're great, man. Yeah. Yeah. Okay.
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We ran a lot of several aircraft crashes, you know, up in Meridian. We had one with the the a fours were the a fours were known to have, front wheel the the nose gear steering always messing up. It was always a problem. I hated when they gave us troubleshooting on those. I always hated working on those. For some reason, they just never worked, but the gear would come down and the wheel of nose gear would turn. Instead of being locked straight, it would be almost almost, you know, like, maybe a 45 degree. And one of them just hit the hit the runway down out there in Meridian, Mississippi. And the thing just just took a last turn and went right into the woods.
Oh, lord. Crap. Yep. And,
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well, there's there's some other crazy stuff that went on. Uh-huh. So I would assume you you would you would think that the f 10 Hornet and the Hornet Super are probably better than this f 35 thing that they're touting around these days. Do you know, what I heard Unless they could keep the thing in the air. If they could keep it in the air, maybe it might be. Well, that's what I was gonna comment on. It takes twenty hours of maintenance to fly that aircraft one hour.
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Yeah. That's not a good race. We did a lot of them. No. I worked at the test pilot school. I was actually working two full time jobs in in Paks River. My what my wife was pregnant, and I was working seven to 03:30 for McDonnell Douglas and then get off at 03:30, go across the base, and work four to midnight at the test pilot school doing, aircraft maintenance. And, yeah, you know, when you're in your twenties, you can do that stuff. Yeah. I get it. But, first pilot school, we had, you know, we had a dozen different aircraft there. We had air force, army, navy, marine corps.
I was in the I was in the back end. You know, the h 46 is the big search and rescue choppers, the orange one with the two props, the two rotors? Yeah. I think so. Yeah. I got in one got I got in the back of one, and I'm standing in the fuselage and and there's a marine pilot, captain, crazy guy. And he picks the thing up off the deck about 50 feet, and he's rocking it long ways on its on its long axis. Oh my god. You know, and the blade the blade and I'm hanging on to the straps and we're because they were checking for some kind of problem with with, with the controls. And I'm going like, okay. I hope we make it, you know, just back to the ground without without this thing You touched the blades hitting the damn ground.
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You thought you're on one of those bucking bucking bull things, didn't you?
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Or or amusement park ride. And, one of them one of them was going across the Chesapeake Bay 1 day, and it and it it was just about, I don't know, maybe 50 or 75 feet off the Chesapeake Bay, and it lost the fuel pump on one of the engines. And before they could bump it up, the thing settled down into the bay. And we got reports from guys in boats seeing this, h 46 just to across the water like it was using it still had the one engine running, and it just kinda it floated across the well, it actually
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maneuvered itself across the bay and nosed up on Solomon's Island, and it was a guessing a corrosion control nightmare to have to fix it. I'll bet. I bet. It didn't it didn't sink. They just kind of stuck it up on the island. Those were Yeah. But Yeah. What what do they call that? They run a ship. They I can't remember what they call it when they run a ship on land like that to save it from sinking. Anyway, somebody was trying to say something there a second ago. Sorry to get off on all this aviation stuff. It's interesting to the folks that know a little bit about it and probably totally boring to the others. Who was trying to, get something in there?
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I just wanna tell everybody that there's a short video of the plane hitting the runway and then flipping in the chat.
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Oh, okay. Thank you. Thank you very much. So yes, ma'am. Lady Linda?
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Nope. This is Muse. Muse. Okay. My bad. My question is how did they know to have somebody out on the runway filming it right as it happened?
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Maybe they I don't know. Maybe they reported some kind of problem. An emergency
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landing. Pardon me? It I think it was an emergency I think it was an emergency landing because they hit hard, and that's what broke the wing off. Okay. Because if you watch the video advance
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notice before they because anytime I see something, I never had the phone in my hand. Right? And even if I do, I'm too busy watching what's going on to to think to, you know, pull out my phone and film it.
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So it's just Well, there's always a lot of people standing in the, there's always a lot of people standing around the airports. I see them when I walked through there and they're just filming airplanes, landing and taking off out there. So it's not, you know, the chances are with thousands of people at an airport, somebody's gonna catch it probably. I think, well, my my thoughts muse are that it probably came in on some sort of emergency landing. And that that's why people were looking. I may be wrong. That's just a suspicion.
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There's three or four videos of that plane coming in. It's not a concern.
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I see. So there was something that people were looking at. Maybe we'll find out more as we go forward. Yeah. I hear you, Mark. Hold on, as we, go forward here, Muse. Good to hear from you, sweetie. But pretty unusual. I just never seen a plane flip like that before. Mark, what do you got for it? Straw man bringing an answer for us here, is he? Yeah. The the video I saw that they showed on national news
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was taken by a a pilot in a Learjet that was holding on one of the side runways. Okay. So now, you know, they got their headset tuned into air traffic control.
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Alright. And,
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so I don't know if that prompted them to pull their phone out because they've seen millions of landings, right? Also it looked like from the video there was like a snow, I don't know, some kind of snow cloud or something that they think that they flew through before they touched down and may have thrown off their landing. I don't know but you know, it's just a lot of speculation going on. But whatever reason that Learjet pilot knew to pull out his phone and and record the the landing.
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I'll bet that they had reported some anomaly there on land. Yeah. And
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that made him pull his phone out and either heard or saw something that made him pull his phone out.
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Yeah. It sure makes you wanna go book a flight. It makes you wanna go book a flight, isn't it?
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I'm kind of like in the wintertime. I really don't want to be flying period.
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Yeah. So somebody else that you, Rick, was that you saying something there? No. I said it was Trump's fault. Oh, it was Tom. Of course, it's Trump's fault. They and they blamed him, by the way, for cutting on back on FAA, especially, surrounding the crash in DC because of the fact that they had put out a DEI thing to hire people that were mentally challenged and and and other stuff. And they had a they'd hired a bunch of them. Trump went in and fired them, and they're blaming that on the thing that happened in Canada.
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So are are they really saying that Trump already controls Canada?
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What do you think they're just? No. I think what they're looking for is anything that happens, they can blame Trump.
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Okay?
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It's a he did it attitude. K? So, God bless the man. The other thing that and I pray for him. I pray for president Trump. Okay? And I thought yesterday, yesterday's, Saudi Arabia deal is a master stroke of putting these people in their damn place. No. You had a chance three years ago to do this, and you let Boris Johnson come in here at the behest of the Revelation two and three niners and shut that all down? You had a chance to do this. Zelensky, no. You don't get a place at the table. Sorry. You've been a dictator for a year. You've put off all the elections. You closed down the main church of Russia and of the Ukraine and and, one of the places that Russia founded. Russia was actually founded in Kiev in the Ukraine and then went up to Moscow, the capital.
So they've got a lot of, a lot of very emotional attachments to this. And, evidently, the thing in Saudi Arabia went stunningly well. I saw the, British Lavrov, I believe, the the Russian guy come out and give his deal. I haven't seen Rubio's statement, but they've met for four hours. It was congenial, friendly. They both feel like they got something accomplished, and we didn't have the Euroites, of which were meeting simultaneously in Paris and accomplished nothing, by the way. And, we didn't have to put up with that snotty little fag dictator, doing his antics, which evidently in the conversation between Putin and Trump on the phone, must have been Putin or some of the Russians that told them.
Did anybody hear what his his approval ratings are? I know some of you must heard that. Nobody? Zelensky's approval ratings are 4%.
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Woah.
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Four one two three five. Uno does stretch quatro. K? So, anyway, their their goose is pretty well cooked. Trump has got all the cards evidently. Well, exception of maybe one or two. And, he's moving ahead. And what is encouraging to me is with this immediate thing with the Ukraine and the war and how horrible it is, and you haven't heard any of the Zionists who he's totally surrounded with, say one negative word about it, have you?
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Have we Roger, have we forgotten what caused that war?
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Well, no, I haven't. I don't know if they have. They'd like to Well, I think other people even know why that war got started. That's probably true. Unless you really saw this stuff, you wouldn't have. Tell us, tell us the background of this, would you, Mark? Well, you can go for doctor Paul Craig Roberts. Doctor Paul Craig Roberts. I learned this through him watching Greg Hunter's
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Watchdog USA or USA Watchdog, I think it is. Yeah. The Chihuahua. Just a faint and it happened, like, right as that war broke out. Greg bought brought Doctor. Paul Craig Roberts on his show. And and what, Roberts explained was the three regions in the Eastern part of Ukraine was actually originally Russia. They're part of Russia. They speak Russian. They're not Ukrainians. But for whatever reason, when the Soviet Union fell apart, they gave those regions to Ukraine. It should have never happened. So, Russia had come in to take Ukraine I'm sorry, Crimea. Let me back up. There's three regions. It's Crimea, Dubas and Luwansk.
Yes. How do you pronounce that? Dubas?
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Donbas is over there, it's one of the big cities. I'm not sure about the region. Donbas
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and then Luwansk and those are three regions right on the East side and they border the Black Sea if I got my geography correct. And they need Crimea, Russia needs Crimea, which again is a Russian region originally. You sure can't. We all speak Russian. Yep. And they need a warm water port. But here's the other thing, they had a 2014 agreement, treaty with Ukraine and Ukraine broke it because Ukraine and their Nazi stormtrooper army would go into these eastern regions and and bomb them and kill people in those regions. So that is they were getting ready to take another offensive.
The Ukrainian soldiers were lining up on that eastern region and so Russia stepped in. So I don't know. They might have been prominent.
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Pardon me?
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No go ahead Mark finish your sentence. Russia was. Yeah just my opinion is that really Russia was stepping in to liberate those eastern regions And Okay. I hope when they come out of these peace talks that Russia takes back those those three regions that originally They've already taken them. They've already taken them. Yeah. And they ain't giving them back any kind of a treaty
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because of the critical things you mentioned. Yep. And the other the traditional home of the Russian navy is right across a bay there, I believe, from, the, Eastern Side of the Ukraine, and that's Sebastopol. And Sebastopol has always been Russia's naval port because it's the only warm water water port they've got. Okay?
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It's the land East of the Dnipro River.
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Yeah. Okay. Thank you. And, they're, quite sensitive about it and what the background that led to this, and you her her name hasn't come up. It makes me wanna throw up when I hear it. Victoria Newland, who is a Trotskyite from a Trotskyite family that were Ukrainians, and she's the one that has instigated this. She went in in 2014. What happened is Ukraine had had an election, and they elected someone. Here's the whole problem is, like, the gas line that goes through Ukraine to the EU. K? And they're battling The US and the bad guys to bring in their liquid natural gas and stuff. So that's a lot of the problem right there. K? So they elected a guy, and I don't remember his name, that was kind of neutral or maybe even a little favorable to Russia in this argument of stuff going and trade going to the EU.
Well, that's when they had this thing called the Maidan. Okay? M A I D A N, I think. And this was instigated by the State Department and Victoria Nuland. And so what she did after that election was she got a bunch of these real wacko Ukrainians, the, like, what do they call it? The something brigade. These were, people in World War two that even the Nazi SS would not work with. Okay? And that there's still remnants of there. There's a guy, their hero, is a guy named Bandero. And so, it's this real radical group. And what amazes me is I think they hate Jews. I don't know why how the Jews have co opted them here. Anyway, they, got she co opted them as the, the opposition.
And that day, the Maidan, there was protests in the, in front of the government house or something there in, Kyiv or Kyiv, however you wanna say it. And Newland came over. This is all financed through USAID, by the way, to the tune of $5,000,000,000. And she was out there handing out cookies as she had these, real real radicals upon the roof shooting the Ukrainians. So they were killing their own countrymen to start this, to switch presidents to start this whole thing. That's the origin of it. I mean, obviously, the roots go way far back even to there, but that's what started this modern episode here. And so once they got that done, she picked remember the famous phone call of her leaking where she said f the f the the euro or f the EU, and, what they wanted to do, and that was recorded. It's out there if you haven't heard it. And, so once they took over the country, they started bringing in a hundred and was it 55 millimeter cannons?
Some of you guys, I think, 55 millimeter and howitzers, and they were bombing all that Eastern bombing. Well, Mark said bombing. They were shelling all of those Eastern cities. Donbas being one of the main ones, and they're sitting there trying to do their society, and they target like civilian targets like the city square of the city. And And then what they do is they shoot in a round and cause a whole bunch of damage, and all the people would come to try and, mitigate it and see if they could work with the wounded and do something with the dead, and then they lob another round right on that same trajectory.
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Okay. Roger, I just looked it up that that you the, Donbasque is the fourth largest Jewish community in Europe and the eleventh largest in the world. Home to 45,000 Jews. So you got these these Nazi military Ukrainian Nazi army, and, you know, they they still have an angst for, Jewish people.
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Well, I have a feeling that probably population has been drastically cut. One of the things they were trying to do with this Ukraine, and they actually said it in the early parts of this couple of years ago if you were paying attention. Zelensky came out and said it one time. Big mouthful faggot. They wanna make Ukraine greater Israel and Europe. This is their traditional homeland. This is where the Khazars came from. That was Ukraine. K? So this is in fact, when that war started, they already had a bunch of Jews. And what they were doing, was taking the settlers that are in so much angst with the West Bank and all these problems down there that they've created, obviously, they had 30,000 or more of them up in Ukraine already.
And they moved them from the settlements, went up there, armed them, and everything else. So when the war started, they don't want the Jews to be out there fighting. They wanna kill Christians. You know? So they had all of them fly back to Israel. They were planning on making this Israel too in Europe because they've effed up their little everything they do down there in Satan's sandbox. Just I mean, it's ridiculous. And I don't know if you follow the if you've ever followed this, one of the things that used to get me when I was really young, and this was in full swing back in the sixties. And, what these bastards did to those people over there, I mean, they never had any problems over there. They lived for two thousand years with Jews, Arabs, and Christians all living right next side by side, and they didn't have any problems at all until the damn Zionist moved in. And when they started moving in in the twenties is when all these troubles started.
And if you've never read anything on this and you're out there listening to the audience, you it it will curl your hair to read some of the things that these bastards did to those people. And you wonder why they hate them so much, why they'll go blow themselves up or anything else to get vengeance back because they don't have any other options. And these are the people that brought them all this torment. There's no question about it. Our state department wrote in the nineteen forties, we should never let Israel in over there. It will absolutely disrupt the whole area.
And and that's about the time a guy named Forrestal, if they've got a air a navy ship named after him, mysteriously leaped out leaped out of the naval, hospital there in Bethesda, Maryland to his death. And he was violently against the Zionist as were the entire state department. And they had an internal memos as to that effect. So if you've never studied this, the one of the better places to get an objective because, boy, it is. A guy, one of the congressmen wrote a book out of Chicago. I can't remember his name right off the bat. They got him, primaried out, but he he he wrote a book and called it The Passionate Attachment.
That's a very good title. It's very descriptive of what's going on here. The passionate attachment that these people have to that little patch of dirt over there that they think, they tell you that God gave them well. It's small g God. It's not a big g God. And they have reached holy havoc. If you wanna get a real accurate picture of that history, I believe the website is Allison Allison, Weir. Weir. Is the one Weir, w I e r or e I r. I know. She's not Jewish. She's not a Jewish name. She's a tenured professor at the University of California at Berkeley, and she got very interested in because she was buying all the propaganda from all the damn Jew owned media and went over there and saw what was happening and the real life on the ground, was so startled.
It totally changed her whole life, and she came back to The States and started talking about it. Boy, they don't like her. Okay? And her website is, I believe, if Americansknew.org
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or if Americansonlyknew.org.
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And and she's got some really important information on this if you, you know, wanna learn about it and the accuracy of it. One of the things and and I remember I printed this out. It was like 21 pages. I I I don't know if she still got got on there. It was the long form of the history. Now what Allison did is she didn't write this. She went to four books, one of them written by Gandhi, two of them written by Jewish authors. I don't remember the other one. And she went through those four books and pulled their descriptions out and compiled them. And it it will it'll curl your hair. Okay? How about, anybody in the audience know about Dier Yassin?
Dier Yassin. It's two words, D I E R. Yep. It's a little village. S I N, I believe. Pardon me? It it's a little village in the,
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Jewish terrorist, after war before World War two. They, attacked that village, killed all the men, women, and children.
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Well, see, this interesting thing is it's their their, downfall was the fact there was village was located on a really desirable high piece of land. And the village was actually friendly with the Israelis. K? They weren't fighting them or anything else. They were neutral or friendly. And they went in and surrounded the village. And, they got the women. I guess they killed the men. They got the women and they would put them in a house, all night and have them clean the house. And in the morning, they dynamite the house in on them. That's who these people are.
So you wanna read all that juicy stuff? If AmericansNew.org, I believe. If not, put in Allison, Weir, w I e r, I think. We used to play a before my portable lost all that information, I could probably still go dig it up somewhere, on the other computer. But, we played a talk. Somebody had I'd heard years ago and just saved it about, how, Israel took over The US. And, boy, there were some really interesting information in there. She's a consummate researcher. K? Consummate down to all these footnotes and details and the facts that she brought out in that talk were startling. Well, I've got both her and another one, over on on the archives on Cashbox.
And, the other interview that I played about the same time was from David Duke, and it was the history of Jewish slavery. And if you've never heard that, that's pretty startling too. So, anyway, here's just my two cents on what's happening there. It got off on Ukraine. Somebody have something to add to that?
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I do.
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Yes, ma'am, please.
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Yes. Do you think it's important to note that Eastern Ukraine is the industrialized
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area? And not only that.
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Well, hold on. And that Yeah. Donbass and two other areas voted to join Russia.
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There was when all this happened, they had a thing called the Minsk Accord, and I don't remember if that was around this time or not, but they allowed them in a referendum to vote on which country they wanted to be associated with. And one of the other things, by the way, is they're very traditionally Russian and, speak the Russian language. And after they did the Maidan, they were trying to make them stop using the Russian language. That was one of the things they were doing along with shelling them and killing them. So it's obviously a yes, ma'am?
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It's also important to note that NATO was not to to expand further east. And, trying to get Ukraine into NATO was a deal breaker of that treaty.
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Yes. Yes. And that was initiated, by the way, in 1991 with George w Bush or George Bush, the first one, daddy. And he's the one in 1991 that made that commitment that that NATO will not move into that. And, of course, Russia is very sensitive of that. It's the flat land where Russia can be invaded. And, I believe the Nazis used that route. I believe Napoleon used that route. Okay? And, but there's also a lot of minerals in the eastern part and a lot of manufacturing, and that's what the Jews really wanted. They go after assets and wealth.
And so now what has happened is Russia has taken over about half of the country or more in battle. And what they find is relatively new information is they're loaded with rare earth minerals over there. Not only do they have some of the best farmland in the topsoil and is the breadbasket certainly Europe possibly part of the world. Okay? But underneath that is all these rare earth minerals. So that's what they wanted to do, come over, conquer Iran, make it the, Israel of of Europe, make it all one of these modern modern technology high-tech countries.
They've made videos about doing it. And, and they just kept poking Russia. And like they do, okay, to start these wars, and they need this war desperately. And and so, anyway, they've been thwarted. They've been flat ass thwarted. Okay? And it's very refreshing to see these guys lose like this to me. Yeah. Two last things, Roger.
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Yes, ma'am. Moscow is very close to the Oh, yeah.
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90 miles 90 miles, I think?
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Something like that. Yes. And, now I do have a question. Kristallnacht, and that was the starvation of the Ukrainians. I I don't know what year. Does anybody else know about that? Kristallnacht
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Kristallnacht was the day they went through Germany and painted all. They already had the Jewish businesses with stars on them, yellow stars, and they went through and broke all the glass and disrupted all all the Jewish businesses. Now that sounds very offensive, doesn't it? But what you never hear, see, is the other side of the story. Because these guys always concentrate on the second hit. They don't ever let you see the first hit that instigated stuff. So what instigated Kristallnacht, Sherry?
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I don't know. But evidently, I've named it wrong, and I I'm sure that that is something that's quite important to look at the other side. It is. I'm fixing to tell you. I'm fixing to tell you. Okay. I appreciate your help. Before Kristallnacht,
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Germany's most popular ambassador, I forget which country he was in there in Europe. This Jew made an appointment with him, and he went in and the guy came into the appointment. He pulled out a pistol and murdered him on the spot. That's what called Kristallnacht. But you never hear that, obviously. And if you've never watched Europa, you would never know that. You would never know. And I hear Alex Jones who supposedly says he's history and read all these books on World War two. Well, Alex, garbage in garbage out who controls the publishing industry, and says, well, they Hitler had no reason to invade Poland.
Well, go watch Europe, Europa and you'll find out that there's a 10 mile stretch where Germany borders Poland. It's called the Sudenlands, I believe, S U D E N L A N D S. Mysterious agitator went in and aggravated those traditional rivalry, aspects of their relationship, and the polls started going in and murdering Germans in the Sudan lands. And what caused the finally, after doing this for, I I don't know how long, but a while, it wasn't any secret. Finally, they had a real big one and ten thousand German women mill women men and children were massacred.
That's what caused the invasion of Poland. But even now no. They had no reason to invade Poland. Well, sorry, Alex. You you know, you're a good guy. You can do a lot of shit, but you don't know your ass from a hole in the dirt here. You've been reading garbage input. I don't care if your relatives were were in World War two over there. Okay? So, anyway, just a side point. This is see, that's what they're doing. They're doing the same damn thing now in Ukraine. Gates just keep poking and poking and poking, and they always give you the second side of the story. And after all of this aggravation and these years of aggravating these people, if Russia really went in after them, because I gotta believe Russia coulda ended this war a couple years ago, But this is the land where their country was founded, and they've got and I don't think and Putin's not this big dictator and murderer that people, make him out to be when they demonize him like Hitler.
I'm surprised he's had the resolve he's had since 2021 whenever this thing started. So, anyway, that's my 2¢ on this. Alright. Okay. Sherry, go ahead. What do you got? Yeah.
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Well, what was it or when did it occur that the Ukrainian people were starved to death? I believe by this That was that was that was after World War two, and it was when Stalin was in. And I believe
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Stalin was from that part of Russia. I know Gorr Khrushchev was. He was Ukrainian. And they went in
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after World War war.
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War. Yeah. The hole in my door. Hold on. God. Can I finish, please? They went in and took all of the the food out of the Ukraine. It's a bread basket of the world. And those people starve and some of the parents ate their children. I'm sorry you say. Okay? But the reason they starved is they exported all the grain. They made them harvest it, all these big record harvest, and then they exported it and let them starve to death. And that's what they're trying to do in The US. That's what they were setting up, destroying all these food, wholesalers and chicken farms and all this stuff mysteriously blowing up over the last three or four years. They were setting The US up to be the whole of the door.
K? They always do the same stuff over and over and over again. And there's another example. Who was the guy that was trying to say something there? Because it works so well, Roger. Of course. Well, of course. Of course. Who was the guy? Was it Rick? Was that you, Rick? Somebody tried to say something.
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Was it Eric? Said it was the the Holodomor. You know, Russia's got a territory in between Poland and Lithuania. It's around the city of Kaliningrad, and it's kind of the same situation that Germany had across from the Danzig Corridor.
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Okay. So as you lived over there, you just studied this or what?
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No. I just like math.
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Okay. We're cutting in and out a little bit, like like all that stuff. Me too. I used to lay awake when I was in high school and read World War two books all night long. So, okay. Well, that's a whole lot. And I and I'll tell you one thing with all this. With all of this that we've discussed on this, there's one really important thing that hadn't been brought up. I hadn't heard the Trump team bring it up either. Anybody got a guess? I mean, it's super important. Blowing up the Nord Stream pipeline. Victoria Nuland, Jake Sullivan, that whole crew, and God knows, I hope they they indict and prosecute those bastards.
That's international terrorism, what they did there. And the thing that actually they used the they used the diving aim out of Panama City, Florida because they didn't have to report to Congress. If they were gonna go do some kind of terroristic thing, they had to go get the permission of Congress. So they went down to the Naval Air Station in Panama City, which does deep diving, like helmet diving and stuff, instruction, and all that. Well, they went down and got those divers and set that, that plastic explosive off. And I'm gonna tell you what really pisses me off is that used to be my family's land. My great great grandfather on my mother's side gave that land that the naval base is on to the United States government during World War two. The Holly family used to own all that land. Those of you who've ever been to Panama City and you go over the Hathaway Bridge there from town to the beach, is all of that land right there on the, on the beach side, all the way up to where they've got those giant condominiums and stuff was owned by the mother's side of the family. And that even rubs a little more salt in my wound about this, k, quite frankly.
So, anybody else got anything to add? We're about to lose Chicago here in a couple of minutes. I'm glad we got all that covered. Here, we've got other things we haven't covered. This is an audience participation program. I'm sorry. I know I hogged the microphone most time, but no? Why are you a bunch of sleepy little guys? Okay. Well, man, the sun is coming out. Lord have mercy. It's the first time in ten days. Chicago. Ten Days on the do what now? You're cutting out a little bit again. Cool, again, please?
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I said we're not on Chicago today.
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Oh, that's right. I forgot. Thank you. That's right. Allen's cat walked over the board. Okay. Well, let's see what else is interesting. I had a good lunch yesterday with the guys. And we've got a couple really, but two main Canadian down here. And they're both really good guys. And, one of them is a programmer. And the other one's done a lot of, research and studies philosophy kind of guy, but he's done a lot of study on Russia. He really likes Russia. And, and so he and I can sit there and have these conversations because I I really like Russia. K? I've never been there, but I I know their history.
And I I see them being demonized unmercifully. And I realize the old saying from the Middle East, the enemy of my enemy is my friend. I see Putin being the I believe he's the longest standing elected leader in the world. My personal personal feelings are he's the best statesman in the world in the last hundred years. He's kept these guys from spinning this out of control by thwarting them very subtly and and not directly, but stopping their efforts at every turn. And, so the next one that's coming up is now they are frantic to bomb Iran as Netanyahu's been for about the twenty years I've been watching that piece of crap. You know, they had other ones back then. They've taken them over now, and Iran is the lone, the lone holdout. Of course, they hate it in this.
Iran is the Persians, and that's like where the book of Esther, that that's where that took place is over there. And as Brent said on here one day, the literal translation from the from the biblical language is that they Judaized Persia. They Judaized Persia. Now it's very interesting because isn't that what they've been doing to us? They've Judaized America. They attempted to. All the the tranny stuff. And all this stuff comes from their culture. And when they input that stuff, they're really Judaizing the country. They're trying to take over.
And, so that's where that go that origin, goes back a long time. And there are Iranian Jews that they just don't want to live in Israel. They know who these Zionist Greeks are and what they're doing. And, Israel has since the inception of the country, maybe even before, in '48, they have, been going around and bombing them. You know, they go bomb these Jews that wouldn't move to Israel in Iran and other places and get them and try and get them to move to Israel. They're pulling terror stuff on what supposedly is their own people.
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Sam from Houston. May I, Roger?
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Yes. Sam. Sam? Is this you from the old days?
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From Houston.
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From the old three frequency, man. Actually, actually won a, silver, or you were giving out I think you were on one of the top shows back in the eighties, and I won a,
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you were giving away, silver dollars. That's what it was. A carrot bar. Collected. No. I think we we gave away a carrot bar, didn't we? No. It was actually a silver coin, but I never collected, so I don't feel guilty about it. Oh, I know you did. I was so good oh, Sam, hold on here. I am so glad we reunited here because I've thought about you a couple of times and what happened to you. I'm glad you followed me around. Sam is an old time listener. He's a black guy down in Houston, and we just loved him back in the old days. And we lost you when, you know, Chris Ego came in and pulled his midnight raid on me.
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Yeah. I kinda lost track of you since several years. I was I was working back then. I'm kinda retired now. I'm approaching 70. So, but I wanted to bring up before I forget and while we're on the subject, I think you guys kind of missed one of the main points why Russia went into the Ukraine. And that's all the body of labs they had down there. They were intimidated by wiping out Russia. No. You're right. You're right. I just went to next
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Sam, there's damn many egregious things going on over there that you can't keep hardly keep track all of them. Thank you for bringing that forward.
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Hold on. Yes, Paul. What do you got for us? Hold on. Yeah. We're gonna do the BOU sign off right now because I've I'm gonna step away from your computer for a while. 106.9WBOUFM
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in Chicago and Patriot Soap no. Not Patriot Soapbox. Are we not on there? I didn't think we were on there today.
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Now we're still on Radio Soapbox. Okay. So radiosoapbox.com. Join us for the second hour by going to the matrixstocks.com. Either join us on free conference call or eurofolkradio.com or Global Voice Radio Network. Thank you so much for joining us. Yeah.
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Our bread friends, come hang with us, man. We got sanity over here. Okay. Back to Sam. Sam, I can't express to you how glad I am you found us and called in today.
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Yeah. I've been listening for a while. I've just been keeping a low profile.
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Yeah.
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Okay. And given the And given the And given the Merkel given given Merkel a hard time on, on on, Telegram.
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Okay. Well, that's good. She can she probably needs that to keep her in line. You know, it's like the guy that says I I introduced my wife as my current wife just to keep her on her toes.
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Yeah. That kinda That's a good way to wind up that's a good way to wind up in a divorce.
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What was I gonna ask you? No. You're right that part of the reason that he went in there and they had all that information because they captured a bunch of them. And the general that was over their bio warfare thing was about to make the announcement on internationally, and they killed him. They just yeah. They just recently killed him a few months ago. Yeah. Yeah. On the next day, he was supposed to announce that the next day. Now it gets deeper, Sam. It gets deeper. It appears that one of the owners of all those labs was a company called Rosemont Seneca. Does that ring a bell?
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Oh, yes. Good old America.
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Yeah. Good old Hunter Biden. It was him and his partner's company. Rosemont Seneca was one of the owners of all this BioLabs. I don't know how many. I don't know what their ownership was. It wasn't total, but they were involved in it. Thank you, Joe. Thank you. Those pardons are gonna be challenged, by the way, and I've heard that out of Trump officials' mouths. They cannot let that stand, that they just blanket pardon anybody for anything they're gonna be charged with in the future.
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No. No. No. No. No. No. It's when you think about it, it's kinda ridiculous It's kinda ridiculous to pardon somebody when they haven't been charged with anything.
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Well, it's kinda desperate. It's desperation, I think, is also involved. Cole Nedre. Cole Nedre oath. That's another aspect of it. So, Sam, you're retired now?
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Yes, sir. I, in my little time with one with one company of almost thirty five years, and I only quit.
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Well, good man. Congratulations. I've been retired since I was 45. Hell, it's been great.
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That was that's most I think that's the American most Americans dream to retire that early, but, you know, it's it's not possible for most people.
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Well, it is. They just don't wanna take the plunge or they've got themselves in deep with, you know, obligations. They can't see a way to go out and even go through a short period of trying to set that up for themselves. But I just learned you can get out and hustle. You know? And and back then is that's when I made decisions or scaling down my lifestyle. And, you know, live within your your budget. Don't get in debt, and I'd be happy as a tick and live in a especially a place like here where they don't have the printing. Where we're on the dollar, but they don't have the printing press. So they can't inflate without borrowing. So our economy is go ahead.
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You've kind of tipped me towards moving down there with where you are. I sold some major commercial property, made a nice little profit off of it and a few years ago. And I guess I'm downsizing and that's what I'm planning on doing. I don't know, if I will go it it's gonna be somewhere in South America. I won't say. But,
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Well,
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this is what I tell you. You know? Go ahead. Well, I understand. Well, have you ever traveled down here at all, Sam?
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No. I, as far as I got, it's, it's Mexico.
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Okay. Well, that's alright. That's that's a further south a lot of Americans have gotten. I would encourage you to put into search engine Journeyman Jack.
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If they check that. Following him too. Okay. He's got We'll reach out to Jack. He's got some good advice, and I like, especially some of the expat, chat rooms around, around Central And South America. It's, it's it's really in in and and I think it was is it Boris or somebody said Nicaragua? I think he said or one of the other places that he he said would probably be a good place to go would be in Nicaragua. And and I know it's kinda rough down there, but I think he's kinda probably right because it's kind of like out of the way, you know, and, very few people think about even, traveling down there, a little longer retirement down there. So
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It's always been under the control of The US and the, the Banana Republic, if you will, and all those businesses. Just my suggestion, I've never been to Nicaragua, but I think the elevation is a lot lower. There's probably a lot more bugs and humidity and stuff. I know it's not even to the advanced stage that we are here in Ecuador, at least the area I'm in here. But wherever you go, you ought to contact Jack because he now he knows this area very well, held in very high esteem here. And, but he also knows guys that do what he does all over the continent. You know, if you wanna go to Colombia, you got a guy he knows there. If you wanna look at Costa Rica, the main go to countries are Costa Rica, not necessarily in this order, Costa Rica, Panama, and here in Ecuador.
And the reason for that, especially with Costa Rica and Panama, is because that is sea level type countries. And but you they've got mountains, and you can go up in the, altitude and escape the oppressive humidity. And that's where a lot of Americans live in Panama and Costa Rica. And because, that's not all abundance of land, the prices get fairly high there. Now we are we're the highest with the exception of La Paz, Bolivia, we're the highest altitude capital city in the world, and we're up at Waquito. I can look out the window and see it here, part of it. Yeah. You just said that, and
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I didn't I didn't realize you were that close to it.
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Yeah. We're right right next door, you know, but we're 1,500 feet low. And, Quito's at 9,400 feet. They got one of the volcanoes on the side of it because it's a big valley, is 1,400 14,000 feet, fourteen five, I think. You can take a tram up to the top of that. And, but it's the most affluent part of the country. The altitude cuts all of the negatives from humidity. I hate I hate humidity. K? I lived in it my whole life, and, it's delightful. It's just damn delightful. It's getting too crowded. Humidity is humidity
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is one of the worst things that I I I I was born here, and I've been here all my life in in Houston. And, I just Oh. I I never can get used to I can never get used to January. I mean, I'm I'm sorry. Not January, but, July. August.
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Yeah. That's impressive. I didn't I've never liked Houston because and it changes on a dime.
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Yeah. I came I was reading, some some, trivia about, about Ecuador, and I I wanted to ask you if you see if you knew, and I didn't know it at the time. Where did Ecuador get its name from? Because we're on the Equator, I think, be my guess. That's exactly right. That was was named after the Equator. Exactly. And it's one of the few places where you can actually take an egg and balance it on its, now
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Well, on land interesting little place. Well, if you come down and visit Sam, one of the day trips, it's about a forty five minute drive from here. There's this place called the middle of the world, and, it's very interesting. And it's the only place on land, on the globe where the northern, meridians, there's four of them, north south, cross over. You know, like when you cut an orange, cut it from end to end in four quarters? Well, if you had that imaginary line of of of not only the equator around it, the circumference of it, but the north south lines.
And where those cross the Equator, the other three are over water. This is the only one on land. And it's a very interesting little area. It's right at a tail end of a valley. And even the Indians knew there was something unusual about it because they tried to find the certain spot where all this emanated. And you can see across the valley where they thought it was. K? But in the late eighteen hundreds, the French sent a big the French sent a big expedition over here, and they found it on the other side of the valley, and they built a big UN UNESCO thing there, $10,000,000 and all this stuff. Well, guess what? It wasn't it. And really, with all this scientific, technology we've got, the real middle of the world, as they call it, is about a couple hundred yards away.
And so now, even though all the tourists and everything try and send them to the UN thing, they bleed over and go to where it really is. And and they hate each other, by the way, obviously. And, you go through this little, you get a guide. They have different guides, speak different languages, and you go through what they've built over there. And a bunch of the South American countries have contributed something to the area. But when you get right to the middle and it's bricked and they've got the equator represented with a different color brick, Okay? And it's pretty impressive. This is kind of cool because every party you go through three demonstrations.
And the guide will show you first, and then you get to do it. So one of them is you they've got this kinda like a little pedestal thing, and there's a, like you said, a nail, and and you get to try and balance a raw egg on the head of that nail. And it can be done. The guy did it. One of the teenage girls in our group did it. I couldn't do it. And, boy, I I would venture to say you probably couldn't do it, whoever you are, wherever you're listening. It's very difficult to do it. That. I could I think I could do it. It would I could it it probably would take me several years to do it, though. Well, no. They don't give you that long. So Yeah. Anyway, that's one of them. And the other one is they have you walk that equator line with your eyes closed. Right.
And you can really feel the difference in the hemispheres. Okay? And that is called it has a name. It's called the Coriolis effect because you've got the northern hemisphere spinning at one direction, and the southern hemisphere is spinning counterrevolution of that. And so that's why north and south don't ever mix directly. They only mix like water in the ocean or air peripherally as those two bodies moving in opposite directions exchange at the fringe. And that's what you get. You can feel it, okay, when you're walking with your eyes closed. But the the other one they do, the last one is they've got a sink with four legs on it and a bucket, and it's full of water, and they've got a cork.
And they get on one side of the line and pour the water in and drop some leaves in it and then pull the plug where you can see the rotation, and they walk 10 feet on the other side of the line, and it goes the other way. Uh-oh.
[01:10:51] Unknown:
True. I think Yes. The I I think the, astrology has a lot to do with that also. The what? Yeah. I mean, the the the the the the
[01:11:03] Unknown:
the light of the moon and the stars and all that. Oh, probably. I'm sure it is. Some kind of some kind of effect. But the other thing is pretty cool. It's the only place on land in the entire world where your GPS reads all zeros.
[01:11:22] Unknown:
You can throw out some windows here. Yeah.
[01:11:26] Unknown:
So it's a cool place where everybody likes to go down there. You should and and go through that. Well, it's just Ecuador. I find Ecuador to be a really nice country. It's the nicest place I've ever found that I can remember. It's like, oh, you know what it is living here where we are? It's like living in Hawaii at about a tenth of the price.
[01:11:46] Unknown:
Exactly. I was reading up on that too. It's amazing. It cost us even. And and they say the food is not bad either down there. Food's great. All of our food comes within a 50
[01:11:56] Unknown:
miles a year. It's all fresh of volcanic soil, very, very rich. Most of the indigenous and the people, a lot of the growers are they they can't afford fertilizer. That kind of stuff's expensive. It's imported. And the soil is so rich, you don't necessarily need it. And I can go right downtown in our little town here, Tumaco is I live close to a town called Tumaco, and it's right next to another town called, believe it or not, Kumbaya. It's very true. And ours is kind of a middle class and a little bit lower area. And, you walk down the street and you got the people selling corn, white corn.
You have four four avocados for a dollar, 5 maybe if you bargain with them, tomatoes, onion, everything.
[01:12:43] Unknown:
It's ridiculous. It's like living in the fifties. It's like living in the it's like living in the fifties here. You know?
[01:12:49] Unknown:
It is in some respects. And I can go over there and buy I don't I know food prices have gone, you know, nuts up there and eggs and everything, but we don't have any of that. And you get these vendors and they take these long bags, you know, they're fairly skinny. And for instance, they'll put, I don't know, eight onions in there, maybe 10. I don't know. A dollar. About eight tomatoes. A dollar. I can buy a a kilo of strawberries, little ones, a dollar. Four mangoes, big mangoes, a dollar. I mean, it's ridiculous, man.
[01:13:26] Unknown:
But you know what? I'm not so sure if my system could take, you know, I'm so used to I'm so used to Monsanto and the glyphosate.
[01:13:35] Unknown:
I think I might be hooked on it, you know? Well, and we got some good naturopathic docs down here. We'll wean you off of that, Sam. But, just come down. I mean, if you wanna come down and visit, we got a great place for you to stay. It's a it's an old, medical clinic, and the guy that owns it is a doctor. And, it's got a view over the whole valley, and I think it's $20 a night
[01:13:58] Unknown:
with breakfast. When I Man. When I when I when I do come down there, Lord willing, I I am not gonna leave. And by the way, most people think when they when they say when they see corn, and I was, calling this out a while back, they're so used to seeing yellow corn. And when you said white corn Yes. Most people don't realize that whenever you see yellow corn, it's GMO. They're supposed to to to to to to name. All yellow All yellow coin is GMO.
[01:14:28] Unknown:
With the exception. Now we got a good listener who's the exception to that, Sam, and you probably don't know yet and hung around here too much more. I know he's out there listening. And his name is John, a really bright guy. He was in, North Of Atlanta there in Alpharetta for a while, and he had a family, an uncle die. And he inherited a hundred thousand acre farm up in Southern Indiana. So that keeps him pretty busy. Okay? And, but, yeah, all yellow corn is is GMO except his because they had the contract to raise all the corn for Jim Beam and the whiskey distillers, and they can't distill GMO corn.
But all other corn, to my knowledge, yellow is GMO. And, yes, we have, you know, the corn cobs aren't like the corn cob of yellow corn. They're kinda conical. And so they are a little bigger at one end than the other, and they taper down. And it's like a hominy, almost like a hominy type corn, but those aren't GMOs. And and, it's come down come down and spend a little time, Sam, if you want and visit. I'd suggest you do that. And then if you like it, then then make whatever decisions you wanna make. But, boy, it's a nice place to live. We got a very good group of of, patriots here, very conservative. We meet once a week for lunch on Tuesday, and, it's a really nice spot. So you might wanna come down and check it out.
[01:16:05] Unknown:
I'm definitely am. Nice talking to you, Roger.
[01:16:09] Unknown:
Okay. Well, Sam, I'm just tickled to death to know that you found us again. You're back out there in the audience, and you just feel free to come forward with anything you got on your mind or you wanna comment on. Okay?
[01:16:21] Unknown:
Sure will. Thanks again.
[01:16:23] Unknown:
Oh, you're welcome. Keep up the good work. You're well. Thank you, buddy. Yeah. They're gonna have to kill me to stop me, really. And, and they they've already had plenty of chances. They've had plenty of chances to do that and haven't. And, you know, I've I've read that they respect people that defeat them, in a sense, and we've beaten them in their own game. I don't know whether they respect it or not, but I can tell you one thing. They're scared to death of it. Maybe they don't wanna make a monitor out of me. Well, they don't. See, they got a problem. If if it's something that's very damaging to them, they've gotta get it before it gets out.
If they can kill you with you still having the secret there, then the secret's gone. But if you've gotten it out, now there's a bunch of other people that know, and they can't kill you because it makes you a martyr, and that only validates your information to those people. So they're kind of between a rock and a hard place. You know? Yes. Alright, sir. If you could just do your tour. Alright. Alright. Fantastic, man. Glad to have you in the audience, Sam. Great to reacquaint. Oh, okay. Yes, sir. Who's who's trying to say something there?
[01:17:36] Unknown:
This is Victor from Washington.
[01:17:37] Unknown:
Good morning. Hey. Hey, Victor. Washington State or Washington DC?
[01:17:44] Unknown:
Washington State.
[01:17:46] Unknown:
Okay. You're a little distant on the phone, Victor. So if you could get closer to your mouth, you might sounds like you might be driving. Are you driving?
[01:17:57] Unknown:
Yeah. I guess I'm driving.
[01:17:59] Unknown:
Okay. Well, yeah, that's okay. We'll shut up. Yeah. No. I hear you okay. Go ahead and and get your peace out here.
[01:18:08] Unknown:
Okay. I did my affidavit July 6, and I'm still swacking on doing my notices. I'm the one that tried to purchase a buyer. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I'm the one that tried to I'm the one that tried to purchase a buyer at this person's warehouse and they Right. Called the ATF. ATF said, no. You need to not invest in the bank. Anyway, so my my question is about doing your notice. I know that you like to do your passport first, which is great. I might do that. And, it's always a nationalstatus.info's website that teaches you to do it the opposite. They have you send notices out to everybody first. But side issue, doing the notice is I'm struggling because I like to make sure that everything's, like, perfect.
And the the order of operations, for instance. Okay? So let's say that I wanna send my affidavit to the attorney general of the state of Washington, but then I have to cc other organizations
[01:19:15] Unknown:
below that is the way I understand it. So Well, you don't. Let let me stop you. Victor, let me stop you for a minute. You don't have to. You don't have to do any of this. This is just what we found that works, and we've got reasons for all that. So, therefore, that's what we teach. Okay? I mean, you don't have to do anything really but send a blank one to the secretary of state. You don't even have to go through the passport thing if you don't want to, but we advise that you do do all those things. And whether you do it or not, it's up to you. I would say that you kind of got the cart before the horse by going in and anxiously wanting to test this firearms thing before you got your local notices, done.
I I think that's the cart before the horse a little bit, but that's the way you did it. So that's the way we'll deal with it.
[01:20:06] Unknown:
Yeah. I I wanted to do it as an experiment to see what would happen. Okay. But, but on the notices, this is where I'm stuck because I don't know how who to do first. Who to do first. I wanna do it. I know that I wanna do it, and I understand that. You you Victor, you do them all at one time.
[01:20:26] Unknown:
You do the AG because they're the head law may they're the head law official in the state of Washington is the wash state of Washington attorney general. Is that correct?
[01:20:37] Unknown:
I I understand that's correct.
[01:20:41] Unknown:
Well, then you wanna CC your local people off of that correspondence. You don't have you there will be separate correspondences, but at the bottom of your cover letter, you you should. I just advise it that you, notify the local sheriff, if you've got one, your local chief of police, your local district attorney, and then maybe in your state, even your local public health official, because it was your state during the COVID thing that tried to pass a mandatory vaccination jab. Fortunately, it failed, but they were going to give the county official of public health more power in the county than the sheriff.
[01:21:28] Unknown:
I remember. Yep. I remember. Okay. So first, so you notice that
[01:21:34] Unknown:
Go go ahead.
[01:21:38] Unknown:
So what I what my brain is stuck on is you have this document, you have your note, you have your affidavit, you have your cover letter, and you're cc so you're sending it to your your attorney general and then you're cc'ing. So my my my mind is stuck on, okay. So how so do I cc all of those officials and then do Yeah. Every one every one of them. Every single one of them. Yeah. Okay. And then you take the copy to other but
[01:22:08] Unknown:
Okay. Hold on. Then you take, for instance, the copy to your sheriff, and you're going to send him what you've sent a copy of to the attorney general, except it's gonna be he cc'd at the bottom. I think you just send him a copy of what you send the attorney general. And I really would, with all those, do, return receipt requested certified, and because you're only doing a couple of them, and, you'll be done with it.
[01:22:41] Unknown:
Yeah. So if if I can go over it with you real quick, I've got my affidavit to the to the attorney general of the state of Washington. Correct. I've cc'd I've cc'd I'm in I'm in Federal Way Washington, and I'm always in Puyallup, Washington. I cc all of those sheriffs and all of those DAs and all of those other customs officials on the same thing. Right?
[01:23:10] Unknown:
Yes. Now are you are you a commercial driver, Victor?
[01:23:16] Unknown:
I have a CDL that I needed for my job, but I don't go over the road for
[01:23:22] Unknown:
Okay. Well, I'm just curious because I thought you were driving, and I seem like I remember you mentioned that you had a CDL. Is that your profession?
[01:23:33] Unknown:
No. No. I'm an electrician, and I and I need a CDL to be able to operate vehicles on a on the railroad tracks that we're building a light rail commuter train system on.
[01:23:43] Unknown:
Okay. Well, that's okay. No no no alarm, no foul. You know? But, yes, you just it but what the what we're doing here is really pretty simple. Okay? It may be intimidating or whatever to you, but it's really pretty basic and pretty simple. You're gonna send that AG, that letter, and you're just gonna copy everyone else.
[01:24:05] Unknown:
Yep. That is very simple, and it's not and it's it's not intimidating to me one bit, by the way. Right. So so you cc all those people and and then you go to the next person down, which would be probably the sharer. And then when you see when then when you send a sharer his own affidavit and then you cc below him, you don't cc above him though, do you? Like, so from the sheriff to the attorney general, it's it's always going down. Correct? No.
[01:24:34] Unknown:
No. Because there are believe me, they're already in a relationship. It's called the laws of agency because he is the head a law official of the state is in contact and oversees all of the state's other law enforcement officials. So one of the things you're gonna put at the top of that cover letter to the attorney general, put two statements. First, bold capital letters, lawful legal notice.
[01:25:06] Unknown:
Yeah. I've got all that information already. I know I've got Okay. National cannabis
[01:25:10] Unknown:
Alright. Well, hold on. There there may be some other people that are listening that hadn't been exposed to this before. So we're that's the beauty of this is I'm not just answering your questions. If there's any peripheral listeners that do not know this, they get the answer too, and then they don't bug me sending me emails and stuff. I only deal with it one time. Okay?
[01:25:32] Unknown:
So there's a method to my madness here. Okay?
[01:25:35] Unknown:
So that's why I encourage questions to be brought to the air. So it takes care of everybody that's listening. Okay? And so under that, you write you write this phrase. You say you've got it. I'm giving it for the audience. Notice to the principal is notice to the agent. Notice to the agent is notice to the principal. So what we've done there, because the attorney general has authority and relationships with all those people that you're gonna send this to, now they're all locked together by the laws of agency. So if your sheriff there, hypothetically, stops you and gives you a ticket, he is and he's been put on notice, then technically, he's out of his, delegated responsibilities, isn't he?
[01:26:32] Unknown:
Yes.
[01:26:33] Unknown:
So now he loses his cloak of immunity, and you can sue him in his personal capacity. I've just said, technically. K? Now because you put that statement at the top, you've locked the attorney general in with him, and guess who else loses their cloak of immunity? Your attorney general.
[01:27:01] Unknown:
Capisce? Yeah. What I'm do, yeah. What I'm doing, Roger, is I'm practicing waiting six seconds when people are speaking after they finish talking so that I don't interrupt them, and then I get No. That's fine. All of the information.
[01:27:14] Unknown:
Yeah. We got a little lag here. We can't duplex normally like you can on a telephone. Anyway, as I said, that's what we've developed over a long period of time, couple of years, and everybody seems to work real well for them. You know? Now we started originally just like Antivan writes. You were thinking you would send because you send your affidavit to the Secretary of State of The United States. Well, you'd think you'd put the Secretary of State of Washington in this series, wouldn't you? Well, no. Yes, sir. And in fact, we've had callers call in Sheldon, one of them, I think, and he's following in of unrighteous stuff, and he sends whatever they send in to the secretary of state. And the secretary of state writes back because we don't have anything to do with this. Do you have an account? This, that, and the other. One of our listeners, Kaye, we went through this in Connecticut. And finally, when we got that information back and realized that the secretary of state of the state as a political subdivision is now involved with incorporating businesses, collecting fees, etcetera, etcetera.
So they don't have the same functions that the secretary of state of the United States does. Okay? And so when we realized that we were sending it to the wrong people, we switched over to the AG, and it's worked fine. Now what's really happening here what's really happening here is you're switching the formula. The formula for jurisdiction is protection for allegiance, allegiance for protection. And before, your allegiance was to the federal government because you were a resident and a citizen of The United States. Well, now that you've done this, you've switched that, they're no longer your daddy.
And now the state is your daddy. But, see, that puts the state in a different position that I don't believe most of them understand at all. Quite maybe Ken Paxton does. Hell, I don't know. Anyway, because what's happening is your allegiance has changed. The federal government used to give you protection and that triggered your allegiance. Well, now you're switching voluntarily your allegiance to the state. A national owes total allegiance to a small s state, and so now the state owes you protection. And they don't know about this and they don't understand it. Okay? And so they're supposed to protect you from things like your local sheriff enforcing federally backed traffic laws for the slaves and stopping you and issue you a ticket. Well, they're supposed to protect you from that.
But see, they don't get that yet. But here's our teeth right here, the switching of allegiance from the federal to the state because that makes them obligated. They don't have a choice. They said, no. I don't wanna do that. This is a duty and a legal obligation we're talking about here, and it's something they don't understand. And, when we can get get all the planets in line, maybe Mark and I can sit down and draft a short letter laying this out to them that when you send this notice to them the first time, that's what they'll get? Because that's serious.
That's statutory. Okay. Let's make sure Victor's clear on all this.
[01:30:46] Unknown:
Okay, Victor? I understand what you I understand what you just guys saying there. And one of the other questions I had when you mentioned smallest state, I would the question would be, it would probably benefit you to claim that you're a resident of the state in which you can find. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No You don't I know that. You know
[01:31:15] Unknown:
hold on. Hold on, Victor. Please hold on. It's important. No. You don't wanna be a resident anywhere except where your residency is now. You file this document. Where's your residency?
[01:31:28] Unknown:
Washington State.
[01:31:30] Unknown:
No. That means you're a federal citizen. Oh, okay. Where's your your resident is where your residence is where you receive your rights and know your duties. Now that you file the affidavit, who's your daddy?
[01:31:48] Unknown:
I'm my own daddy.
[01:31:50] Unknown:
No? God, I don't know. Please, Victor. Your residency is now I don't know. I don't know the answer. Your I'm gonna give you the answer. Your residency well, you get your rights now from God, don't you? The big daddy. Right? And you owe him your duties. Right? Well, your residency is in heaven now.
[01:32:10] Unknown:
Okay. I did not know that. I never heard you say that before.
[01:32:14] Unknown:
Yeah. This goes back to that really important formula, r plus d equals r. It tells you what kind of legal person you are, but it also tells you and identifies where you get your rights and to whom you owe your duties, and that's what legal person you are. Okay? When they say all persons born or naturalized in the fourteenth amendment, they're not talking about all the people. They're talking about all the legal persons that now receive their rights from the civil rights from the fourteenth amendment and know the federal government their duty. Well, you've changed that. Now you're over here under the original, and you get your rights, capital r rights, from capital g God, and you owe him your capital d duties.
Now your residency is in heaven because that's where you get your right to know your duties.
[01:33:06] Unknown:
So Hold on.
[01:33:09] Unknown:
No. I wanna get Victor and make sure he understands this.
[01:33:15] Unknown:
I've never heard you say that before. So is there at any point, do you ever say do you ever say I'm a resident of of the state, or do you ever say I'm a resident of heaven? You know what I'm saying? You could you could say that. You would know
[01:33:29] Unknown:
well, you could say that you're a resident of heaven. They aren't gonna know what you're talking about. This is a way that you might address that if somebody asks you, are you a resident? And, you know, a good salesman will answer a question with a question. And so the answer to that question is, are you imputing a political or a geographical definition to that term?
[01:33:55] Unknown:
Okay. Can I move on to, the ATF now?
[01:34:00] Unknown:
I guess. Yeah.
[01:34:02] Unknown:
Okay. And so I've taken care of the AG. I've taken care of all my local victims in Washington. Now I wanna go after the feds, the ATF, FBI. No.
[01:34:14] Unknown:
No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. FBI has got authority over background checks. You don't wanna go after the ATF, Victor. You don't even understand this all yet. I'd suggest for you to do anything offensively that you go back and learn some of these things we just discussed that you hadn't been exposed to yet. Okay. You I don't do your notices. Yeah. I and I understand people's enthusiasm here. Don't you that's see, they don't have anything to do with the gun buying process. They make regulations, but the stores where you're gonna purchase, check with the ATF that I mean, with the FBI. They don't do background checks at ATF. I don't think you wanna bring them ridiculous.
I don't think you wanna bring them into this. I wouldn't be poking them, but go ahead. The scenario what?
[01:35:07] Unknown:
The scenario is I've already been denied with the statement that you need to get a nonimmigrant Visa card. You know? So what is I've already and and the scenario is I've already done the things, the AG and everybody else in my local areas that I travel through. And I've already done my passport, and I've already done my revocation of election, which is an illicit side issue. But I still wanna go into that chain store, Sprothers Warehouse, and purchase my gun. That's my scenario. I wanna prove to them that, yes, you do have to sell me this firearm. Well,
[01:35:43] Unknown:
I I don't know. I can't give you an answer to this because I don't know. I I out of all the years I've ever been doing this, nobody's ever brought the ATF in before. Nobody ever. Period.
[01:35:55] Unknown:
Okay. The final question is this. Do you send an affidavit to the sheriff, the local sheriff in some small hick town wherever in the made up universe? Right. Do you address it when you when you send that affidavit? Do you say attention records department or just straight to the lead of
[01:36:15] Unknown:
how do you make sure that it doesn't get carbon carbon? You could well, you could put another cover letter in on top of that and just say you you're being carbon copied, but that's already on the original one that you're sending to the AG. So I think it'd be a little redundant. If you feel better doing it, do it. What I'm getting at is how do you make sure after you sent this to your sheriff that it doesn't get thrown in the circular file? Well, yeah. I don't know if there's any way for you to well, I hell, Victor. I don't know if there's any way for you to stop that from happening. But you've got the fact of the return receipt. Please listen. You've got the fact of the return receipt that it was that it was sent and received to them.
And if they don't honor it, they're at fault. They they're they lose their immunity. So you got no guarantees here, man.
[01:37:11] Unknown:
Yep. I should have already known that answer, the certified b p. Sorry about that.
[01:37:15] Unknown:
Yep. And you keep files. And if they come back and do something to you, you go, well, hold it. I sent you this notice. Here's the record you received and signed for it. This is what you received. Why didn't you do some does this does it do you not see the importance of this document? Well, then if you don't, you're supposed to contact me because that's due process. So what is due process? Notice which you've sent them and the right to be heard. So if they've got an objection, they can come to you with it.
[01:37:49] Unknown:
Okay. One more final final question. Sorry about that. Oh, I already forgot. Well, shoot.
[01:37:59] Unknown:
Yeah. We're here six days a week. Well, yeah, we're here six days a week. So if it comes back to you, you can always come back.
[01:38:07] Unknown:
Roger? Yeah. Okay.
[01:38:08] Unknown:
So during Hold on while you're I've been I've Go ahead. During this process during this process, I've been on Telegram, and I've asked the questions, and I've asked advice about when you're addressing these officials like the AG, do you you know, when you go on the official AG's website, for instance, they'll give you an address that has the PO box. And then if you go to ask my librarian, they'll give you the physical address and how do you and if you ask how do you address the secretary and all this and that. And some people recommend, well, you should put on the physical address, PO box, fax number, email address, the whole works, not just the name of the department.
So that's interesting on the attorney general's cover letter and you cc those guys. Maybe you don't have to put all that address information on there. But maybe you, you know, you definitely have to put the address information on the one that you're sending to the admin specialist. You know what I'm saying? Well, I I don't know about addresses, physical, and post office boxes, and I think that's
[01:39:12] Unknown:
not really important because what's important here is that that guy somehow through the stated channels to get him information gets that document. I don't think any of that other stuff matters. Okay? So don't get too buried in the minutia here. Now Larry's got something he's chomping at the bit to say, and it may have something to do with you, Victor. So, Larry, what are you trying to get to us, buddy?
[01:39:42] Unknown:
Okay. When you started this conversation with Victor, he made the statement that he went on national status and they instruct students to file their local notices first and that is very contrary obviously to what you teach us. I was wondering if Mark or David could address that and help clarify it and to ensure maybe Victor misread something.
[01:40:11] Unknown:
I don't know what hold on, Larry. I gotta stop you. What says you you give your local notices first? Where is where is that that's the cart before the horse. Where does that come from?
[01:40:24] Unknown:
That came from Victor. He said he went on national status, and they instruct to,
[01:40:31] Unknown:
send your local notices out first. I don't think Merica does that. Merica knows better than that. Merica, are you on on with us today?
[01:40:40] Unknown:
No. They're talking about
[01:40:42] Unknown:
channel. National status, Roger. Oh, oh, oh, the website. The website.
[01:40:47] Unknown:
Yeah. Okay. I'm looking it up right now to see if there's anything
[01:40:51] Unknown:
Alright. Well, no. You you how how how can you send it to them first when you gotta send it to the secretary of state to complete the action? No. No. No. No. No sense. I'm sorry for interjecting.
[01:41:07] Unknown:
I'm sorry for interjecting, but this is after you file your affidavit and send it to the secretary of state, then you notice your local officials Yeah. That's right. Website address is national then your website address is nationalstatus.info.
[01:41:23] Unknown:
Okay. Well, that's the same thing. That's Daveandk..infoor.com
[01:41:27] Unknown:
will get you to the same website. Yeah. Either one.
[01:41:30] Unknown:
Hey, Roger.
[01:41:31] Unknown:
There's Merka. Okay, Merka. I'm sorry to disturb you and Lula Bell. It was a false alarm.
[01:41:37] Unknown:
No. It's okay. I just wanted to, remind students on National Status Freedom, we always follow exactly what you say because it is important that we weaponize our affidavit. We need to send our notices as soon as the affidavits hits the mail. And the last time I heard was, I think it was a week or two ago, that nationalstatusin.info was telling people to wait. So we need to make sure that the students understand the new students are sending their notices as soon
[01:42:12] Unknown:
as the affidavit hits the mail. Okay. Are you sure that they're not saying to wait to file for the passport? No. No. As opposed to the letter of the letter of the letter of the letter. Notices as you you might even wanna strive to do them all at the same time. That's how important that is. And and, Victor, we've had this is not speculation. We've had at least two or three incidents where people file the thing first. They delayed procrastinated for whatever reason on doing the local notices, and then they got a traffic ticket or something happened. In trouble. And what it does is it makes them fighting that a much steeper uphill fight if you don't have your local notices done. So you ought to do them. If you don't wanna do it that way, then you can do it your own way and learn find out the pain.
Roger, I'm also tagging enough pain and you'll start making the right decisions.
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Roger, I'm also tagging Victor in the Telegram group. You know, what to follow and how to do it. I have a few little sections there to follow.
[01:43:21] Unknown:
So I'll tag them on there. Alright. Well, you're gonna hear from Mercar on this, Victor, so we'll get you straight. Okay? We'll try to anyway. Aargh Aargh's got Aargh's gonna really try. What do you wait. Auger this boy down, would you please?
[01:43:36] Unknown:
Let me clarify let me clarify what's on the national status website, and they are correct about waiting. But, initially, we discussed about after you sent your notice to the Secretary of State in Washington, D. C, to wait twenty one days to get that processed and then start mailing out your notices.
[01:43:55] Unknown:
Well, that didn't apply that didn't apply to the notices. It applied to the passport, but go ahead. Okay. It's just a little So
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misinterpretation. But if it were me, there there are people who mailed their affidavits to the US Department of State and never got a confirmation
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that they received it. You're gonna make any difference.
[01:44:19] Unknown:
I'm not saying what to do. I'm just saying if it were me and you're anxious to get your notices out, which you should be, I would at least wait till I have solid confirmation that the Department of State received my affidavit because in most letters, we tell people that this affidavit is on file with the Department of State. So that's just my 2¢. I think, for me, I just waited till they, you know, get their k. Get their confirmation that the Department of State's received it in DC, and then start mailing out your notices like Man Man Plus. Okay. I'm gonna forget the form number. But on the lower agencies, like,
[01:45:04] Unknown:
like, for instance well, I'm trying to think.
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If you got a bunch of these that are going out to let's say you have, trying to think what would be a good example. Oh, like the IRS. Well, maybe not. This is not a good example. But there is a way to prove that your mailing went out without paying certified mail for every stinking notice.
[01:45:29] Unknown:
Yeah. And the firm book. It's called a firm book.
[01:45:35] Unknown:
K. Well, there's a form it's a postal form. I don't recall what it is off the top of my head right now. But there is a postal form that you you identify the letters that you're mailing out, and you take that form with your letters to the post office, and the post office clerk will confirm that they mailed those out. And they stamp your document, and you only have to pay, like, maybe $2 a letter or less, but you have proof that you put it in the mail.
[01:46:09] Unknown:
So just wanted to bring that up. I I think that's related to this firm book. Some of these people that know the PO thing from this aspect better than I do, but there's ways to do it. I think Victor's only sending a couple probably. And, you know, he's an electrician on the railroad. He he does alright. I'm not gonna kill him, but there are other ways to get around it. If you're mailing a lot of letters at one time, it can save you some substantial coin. What are they charging for a certified return receipt now?
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$3 or 4 or something? No. Let's try about seven or eight.
[01:46:46] Unknown:
No. No. Let's try eleven.
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Wow. No. Going up.
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Holy smokes. It used to be $2 when I was up there. So a little bit cheaper. Last year, it was $7.80.
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I went in this year to slam some out, and it was $11
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and some trash. Okay. Well, now a firm book might be a good idea. So look into that. Ask the people at the post office about it. Once they stamp something at the counter, whether it's the certified return receipt or you ask them to put the stamp cancel the stamp right there or whatever. Once that they stamp it, it's considered received at the state department. K? Victor, we got you. Have you got more oh, okay. Go ahead.
[01:47:40] Unknown:
Yeah. I'd like to ask Vic I'd like to ask Victor if he,
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notified our state highway patrol because that's very important.
[01:47:48] Unknown:
Okay. Well, I've never told people to do that, but that might not be a bad another cc to put in there.
[01:47:56] Unknown:
Thank you, Roger. Roger. For California, especially.
[01:48:00] Unknown:
Yeah. California, especially.
[01:48:02] Unknown:
Oh, okay. That was Mark. I think This is for every state. California.
[01:48:08] Unknown:
Alright. Hold on, Chris. We'll get you the cherries, the female. For everything. Cherry? State believe. Okay. But good idea. I'd never thought of it before. The state police is the executive. Executive. Alright. Well, here's an example of what I tell you that this is a process. I have another Because it's Go ahead, Sherry.
[01:48:34] Unknown:
Go ahead, Roger. Well, I just wanna add also, the attorney general of the state is over the prosecutors. The secretary of your state is over the judges. So I would think that it might be important to notice your secretary.
[01:48:54] Unknown:
Your secretary of state of the state?
[01:48:58] Unknown:
Correct. Because they are the what? They're over the judges.
[01:49:03] Unknown:
They oversee the judiciary, the secretary of the state. Can you prove that?
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They keep the records.
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That's why you have to know. Somebody else has gotta be over the judiciary, whether it's the I would think. Whether it's this the the, okay. Whatever. If anybody can bring that Brian.
[01:49:29] Unknown:
What I'm just saying to you is that the secretary of state keeps the record for the judges. That's where the oaths are on file.
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And Oh, okay. Alright. Gotcha. Okay. Okay. Well, hell, man, you can notice everybody in the state if you want to. K? The as as I'm showing you right here, this is a process. It is changing. Fifteen years ago, I would have told you to apply for a passport. We didn't have any of this other stuff and it worked just fine. Okay? We're in a process here.
[01:50:07] Unknown:
Go ahead, please. And I understand that. I I understand that 100, and I apologize for making me upset. But what what she just got done mentioning, I didn't even think about. And the reason why I wanna add that is because most of my life has been in the state of Alaska. They don't even have a local sheriff that's elected to the state troopers of Alaska. The state troopers of Alaska are right there in conjunction with the local police. So there is no Yeah. Elected police official there.
[01:50:40] Unknown:
Right. That's one thing. And then the state of Michigan,
[01:50:43] Unknown:
the state of Michigan, the secretary of state does all of the driver's licenses and registrations and all that stuff. So, yeah, I didn't I didn't even know about the judges being involved with secretary of state. So that's very good info.
[01:50:55] Unknown:
Well, they keep like she Sherry said, I believe that's who you go to ask if you wanna, find if your local officials have an oath of office on file. What part of Alaska were you in up there, Victor? Like Wasn't that, Victor? Like commercial.
[01:51:14] Unknown:
Yeah. I yeah. I was up here I went up there in '78 when I was nine years old, and I and I lived in acres twelve years. And then I went to Kodiak Island, lived there twelve years, commercial for fourteen years out of Dutch Harbor in Kodiak. I've been all over the state of Alaska. Most of my most of my life has been on the Kenai Peninsula, and I was even living in Homer, Alaska
[01:51:35] Unknown:
for four years. One of the most one of the one of the most beautiful spots on God's green earth is Homer, Alaska. I went I went to my dad was stationed at Elmendorf in the sixties, Victor, and I went and graduated from West Anchorage High School in 1966 before the North Slope. So I I know a little about Alaska too.
[01:51:59] Unknown:
And that's where I went to school too, West High. West High West High School.
[01:52:04] Unknown:
Yeah. Well, I was there during the earthquake. So, but the part of the Second Floor fell through, and we're lucky it was Good Friday because school was closed or else a bunch of, a ally might not be here.
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Yeah. Understood. So I I just got that for me. Over.
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Did you? Well, I got fond memories of that place. Yeah. Yep. Fantastic place for a young man to grow up. I'll tell you that. Especially somebody that likes fishing. Okay, Victor. We're we're running me too. We're running out of time here. So is anybody let me put you on the back burner. Has anybody got anything for Victor you wanna squeeze in? Several people have been Roger. Chris, you were Chris in California, you were one of them.
[01:52:52] Unknown:
Yeah. I have I have a question. I sent my, my notice in to the Secretary of State in Washington and I received it all back. I received a letter back. One of the things they asked for is, please state country for after steal the copy.
[01:53:16] Unknown:
Well, I've been I'd say it doesn't apply to you. You're not from another country. You're from the state of California. Or you're from California state.
[01:53:28] Unknown:
Yeah. But the California Republic is a country.
[01:53:31] Unknown:
Yeah. Well, then you can tell them that.
[01:53:35] Unknown:
Okay. Yeah. Just tell them. Gov. Do you know what a California.
[01:53:41] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. Chris, do you know what an appa they mentioned appa steel. Do you know what an appa steel is?
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Vaguely.
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If we do stuff from down here with the The States, we've got to get everything appa steeled Both both countries. Now what that means is that whoever notarized the document is a registered certified notary. That's all that means. Mhmm.
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Okay? Commentable.
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Alright. I'll Mark will try and say something. Comment there, Mark.
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Hold on. When Hold on. Chris.
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Was born?
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Yeah. But
[01:54:21] Unknown:
Well, you're talking about You've been in California. Yeah. If you're talking about the country, you're no longer the state of California. It's the Republic of California.
[01:54:32] Unknown:
Right. Yes. I know. But I was born in Wisconsin, so wouldn't it be Wisconsin?
[01:54:38] Unknown:
No. The Republic Of California. How long you how long you been living in California?
[01:54:44] Unknown:
Oh, let's see. Probably about fifteen years.
[01:54:49] Unknown:
I'd say it's California. You you I'd I'd drop Wisconsin. But you can put it in there if you want to. See, I don't know that there's any set answers here in these things. Yep. Exactly. Okay. So what else, Chris? That's basically it. Is that now, hold. Let me ask you a question. Was that from the naked affidavit you sent in or one with a passport application?
[01:55:19] Unknown:
That was the, the naked one, you know, just the Really? What I this is FOIA request. This is from a FOIA request.
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Okay. Passport.
[01:55:31] Unknown:
Okay. So this isn't about submitting an affidavit. This is about a FOIA request to make sure that your affidavit's in your file?
[01:55:40] Unknown:
Yeah. For the passport. Yes.
[01:55:43] Unknown:
Okay. Well, then you're dealing with the passport. Okay? And I don't know if the same FOIA office or not, and I don't think you want a FOIA request. I think you want a pry what's it? Privacy request? Privacy act. Privacy act. Privacy act request.
[01:56:00] Unknown:
Yep. That's what it was. Yes. Okay. Was it privacy act? Well get a privacy act request.
[01:56:06] Unknown:
I send them back the best answer. Were there any other questions that you were quizzical about?
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No. That's it.
[01:56:13] Unknown:
Okay. Well, I think just do that. Also. So yeah. Okay. Well, you know, yeah. Do that. If you got any questions, call me. Okay? Or give me your email or something and send it in and just see how they react. I I would imagine they'll take it with no problems. Okay. Thank you. Okay. I have a question, Roger.
[01:56:36] Unknown:
Okay. Quick. Is this Dan? This is Dan. Yeah. Right? Great. Love you, Roger. How are you, everybody? I'm just Alright. Listen, I've been toiling over capital c citizen and the lowercase c citizen, the lowercase citizen. And I know the state has a lowercase s. I don't know how much this stuff truly matters, but I'd like to get it straight. No. The capital Thank you, Peter. What the state court kept saying when they would differentiate between the state citizen and the fourteenth amendment. So
[01:57:04] Unknown:
Mhmm. We think that it's capitalized, depends on the context. You know, if you go back to capital c citizen, it's in the Declaration of Independence. Right? And God's capitalized, rights, duties, citizen, all those things are capitalized. Well, that's gotta mean something. Okay?
[01:57:25] Unknown:
Well, they capitalized state too, Roger. So that's why how did we get Well, they might. Okay? But
[01:57:30] Unknown:
in modern, I can take you to the web overlook at the state department policy document there, and federal states are broken out and capitalized. And, nationals owe total allegiance to a small less state, and right below that, all the federal states are capitalized. So that's a Fair enough. In time observation
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right there from the state department. K? Yeah. I noticed that too, Braj, and that's why I kept getting confused. It's like they took a whatever. But, anyway, so I'm capital c What do you mean? That's what I'm saying.
[01:58:04] Unknown:
And You got confused? You were confused over all this? God. What an But What an abnormality you are.
[01:58:12] Unknown:
No. I know, dude. It's that super hyperfocus that happens. It can stop me on a dime. Like, everything stops when I and suddenly, it's just funny. But it's it's a mark of a genius too. So I like it. Of course. And then you say you you don't send stuff to, you don't send the actual affidavit to the secretary of state of our state like the Massachusetts. Is that is that what you're saying? Well, we tried that with your adjacent state, Connecticut,
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and every time Kaye would send them something, they go, do you have account? Are you trying to open an account? Do you owe us some fees? And so that's when we switch to go, okay. Well, who's the head law official in the state? Well, we'll just send it to them. They can't not give us that crap. So that's why we do it that way.
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I'm gonna send it to both. Alright. Cool. Thank you, Roger. Yeah, man.
[01:59:01] Unknown:
Okay. If you get something back from them, let us I'm gonna go with the guy first this time. Yes. You're clearly first.
[01:59:10] Unknown:
Larry? It's Larry. Larry. Yeah. I was wondering if Victor is still on the line. If he could give us an update on, whether he has to go through a hunter safety course before he can purchase a firearm because I've never heard of that and I've purchased firearms in several states. And when you walk into a dealer, the first thing they put in front of you when you said I'd like to purchase a firearm is the, you know, the the ACTS form.
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Forty four seven
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three. I've never seen the I IETF be able brought into any of these kind of transactions. So Victor's an anomaly on his own there. You see, the problem is he's trying to prove a point now rather than than just get a firearm. So he's he's got something else he's holding there on this little pursuit of his.
[02:00:11] Unknown:
Hey, Roger.
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Mark. Roger. I think I'm Nick. Oh, shoot. And what I was gonna say is, my question would be to Mark in all caps. Couldn't he tell us, whether capitalization of citizen or state, the importance thereof? I think that's a marked question. I yield. Absolutely. Absolutely. On state, because there's two
[02:00:39] Unknown:
definitions for state. The smallest state is one of the 50 states that make up the union of The United States Of America, and the largest state is basically a, a nation or a country government. So there is a big difference between those two.
[02:01:01] Unknown:
I agree. But is there a difference, in the principle of capitalization of a word or noncapitalization
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of a word? Talking about the entire word?
[02:01:13] Unknown:
I would say I'd say it depends on if Well, you're trying to differentiate something.
[02:01:21] Unknown:
Right. And what's the differential when when it comes to
[02:01:27] Unknown:
Okay. Well, I would say in the Declaration of Independence, when it talks about people getting their rights from their creator, capital r and capital d duties that they owe to the capital g God, and it's a capital c citizen, I think those things are all connected. Don't you, Sherry?
[02:01:46] Unknown:
I do not disagree, Roger, but what I'm trying to better out is the principle so we know how to distinguish with capitalization or non capitalization? Because I have heard now that there is a principle that the small, beginning letter of a word is the highest of import. So I don't know I was just what Mark is a what is a what it's a higher value that it is over
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everything. The lowercase.
[02:02:28] Unknown:
I've never I've never heard that. Never seen that. It really depends on circumstances.
[02:02:37] Unknown:
Context, I think.
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Yeah.
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Exactly. Exactly. And that's where they get you the details.
[02:02:44] Unknown:
I yield. Well, the thing is we we problem, Sherry,
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is we can go back in cases and stuff where people before got it mixed up and did the wrong thing. So you can't use that as a precedent. You gotta understand the concept and the context, I think.
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Okay?
[02:03:02] Unknown:
Also, you're talking about equivocate. If you equivocate. In other words, if you don't know and you don't ask and you just go along with it, then you equivocate whatever they think that meaning is.
[02:03:15] Unknown:
Well, that's my whole point. What is the principle? What is it that we need to understand so we write it properly? I do.
[02:03:26] Unknown:
I don't know. Marco, are you an English teacher? Do you know?
[02:03:32] Unknown:
I think, miss miss Dora can explain that. She's good at it. I wanted to clarify something about the steps that we're following. And, I followed this. We've talked about it way, you know, a long time ago with our long time participants and you, Roger. I followed every step that you have, you know, told us to do only because it weaponizes your affidavit. And the there's a little, a chat on the on the FCC from Mark and Dave to wait for delivery. And I want to make sure that they understand that the once the affidavit hits the mail, it's considered received. And you do not want to wait to do the notices. We wanna make sure we notice all local and state and DC people so that they all know who that we are now nationals.
So we do not have to wait.
[02:04:34] Unknown:
Victor, you don't live in Washington, DC. You live in Washington state. And so it would behoove you to put the people on notice as to your change where you live. Does that make sense? It does to me.
[02:04:49] Unknown:
Roger, what what's happening is that, like, that's why I wanted to clarify is that Mark and Dave are telling them wait for proof of delivery. The proof of delivery
[02:05:00] Unknown:
We're not saying that. You just posted it in the chat, Mark. No. I said you have a choice. I said that's what I would do.
[02:05:10] Unknown:
Okay. Well, we I'm just clarifying for the students that that it needs to go the notices need
[02:05:17] Unknown:
to go out as soon as possible. Say this stuff. What I the affidavit is sent to us. Listen. If it's stamped at the if it's if it's stamped at the post office desk, it's considered received. So do that. Do that. Okay? You don't have to you you know, where this wait thing came from, you really wanna get into it, I'll drag the story out again. We never used to have any of these problems. I got an email from a Brit out in San in San Jose who said I I I I sent in my passport renewal with the affidavit, and they rejected it, and they revoked my open passport. Well, that's the only time that's ever happened. Okay? So obviously, I'm gonna investigate.
I said, send me the letter they sent you. He finally got it scanned and sent it, and they what had happened was he was out there. He's been a Brit, naturalized in February, had gone ahead and gotten a US passport, then he stumbles on our stuff, and he's gonna send in a renewal with an affidavit. Well, it turns out when it hit the passport office, they rejected it under two sections of 28 CFR, which is unusual, 27 CFR, which is unusual because that is ATF. Okay? Anyway, that's what they listed. I think 27, maybe 28. And, and so I I contacted him back. He said, well, yeah. Here's what happened.
I got pulled over for suspicion of drunk driving by the San Jose Sheriff's Department. I wouldn't get out of the car. Remember, he's a Brit. So they broke the windows and drugged me out of the car. They put me in jail, but somehow I did something and got out. And because he was a Brit, he thought when he got out that the charges were dropped. Well, the charges weren't dropped. So when they send in the passport, they go check the NCIAC, and those two charges pop up. That's what gave him the justification to keep his hundred and $40, reject his application, and revoke his open passport.
So that caused me to start thinking about it. I said this is a process. So I said, well, if he had a a naked affidavit on file with the, secretary of state, then that guy couldn't have pulled out CFRs to revoke this because those only apply to citizens of The United States. And so should you wait and send it to the secretary of state and wait ten days, fifteen days, twenty days before doing a passport? I don't know. But that's where this wait thing came from. Can I ask? Yes.
[02:08:20] Unknown:
Roger,
[02:08:21] Unknown:
I have something to add. Hold on. Somebody just said may I? Let let's get get him first. Yes. Yes.
[02:08:28] Unknown:
About two years ago, I ran into somebody on here, and I said, oh, we were talking about notices. And I said, okay. Did you do this, this, and this? Yeah. Yeah. And I said, what's your verification? And he said, well, I mailed mailed in my declaration, and and then I sent these out. I said, okay. Well, you should check that. So he still had his number. He called went to usps.com, still in transit. So on the back of Mark, what he just did was commit about 30 counts of fraud saying, please find the enclosed document now on file.
It was never received.
[02:09:10] Unknown:
So I passport?
[02:09:12] Unknown:
I wait. I wait until no. It has nothing to do with the passport. This is just his initial declaration of citizenship, Roger. I understand that. So I like to wait until there's
[02:09:25] Unknown:
If he filed a passport application, then that overgrown that and took care of it because that is the secretary of state.
[02:09:32] Unknown:
Well, it didn't do that.
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So if you don't get the green card, you should at least verify with your own mind that it's been received through the website. Well, all you have to do is go on to the United States Post Office website and use the tracking number and see if it's been received or not. If it doesn't come back, by the way, because they easily get lost. That return thing is a one sheet little thing. They process tens of millions of pieces of mail per day. Okay? I've seen it. I've been to one of their processing centers in Atlanta. It's very easy for one of those one sheets to say slip into a magazine or get lost somehow or whatever.
So if it doesn't come back, go to the post office site. If it's been received, it'll show it as. It'll show the signature if there's one, and you print that and put it in your folder.
[02:10:26] Unknown:
Yes, my finger.
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Roger? Now who yes.
[02:10:33] Unknown:
It's Victor again. When I, sent mine out, I never got my green card back either, but I was able to verify with the tracking number. And I went through all the booths for all the post offices and verified lots of postal for people. And I found I found out that they don't even send you the green card. They don't even find the green card. But they but not not the digital one. If you don't get your green card, you don't give you know, they don't they don't send you an image of the green card that was signed. They send you an image of a different form that was signed. But you do you do have proof that it was received if you don't ever get your green card. And I I might have made the mistake of not yet putting my address on the other side.
And my other side is I'm sorry to interrupt. Now that we have a new administration, wouldn't it be a good idea to start all over again since I haven't sent any notices back? We can do it to the brand new secretary of state and just start over again and make sure I get that reentered if I want it that bad.
[02:11:37] Unknown:
You know, if it's again, I'll go over this again. If you do a certified receipt when you turn it go to the post office, they have to stamp it and do some stuff and submit it. Right? Does the post office clerk back you? Okay. Well, once they stamp it, it's considered received.
[02:12:03] Unknown:
Understood.
[02:12:04] Unknown:
Okay. Roger? Hello, Roger? Yes, ma'am.
[02:12:10] Unknown:
Hold on. Hello, Scott. Ladies.
[02:12:13] Unknown:
You know, I asked for questions throughout the whole show, and nobody ever wants to come in until the after show. Yes, ma'am.
[02:12:22] Unknown:
Oh my god. I just looked at the time and saw and thought that you were running late. But I just wanted to say thank you. And then I have, sent my affidavit to the secretary of state of states, and now I have, eight envelopes to follow as soon as the ice clears out of here, probably tomorrow, going out to the, pertinent agencies of Connecticut. I have the US attorney's office. I did do the public of health, the the secretary of the state, the state police. No.
[02:12:55] Unknown:
Don't don't don't do the secretary of the state in Connecticut. They're just gonna ask you if you got an account, you applying for account. You probably leave them off for right now. Now if you've got that Thank you for trying. Give that if you've if you've got that many, you may wanna look into this firm deal. If they're charging $11 a piece for certified, you can probably save yourself a couple of shekels if you do this firm book thing. So I don't know all about it. Ask the people at the post office. It's called a firm book.
[02:13:26] Unknown:
Yes. Linda Louise has one, and she did show me. And I took all the notes on it today in the top. Yeah.
[02:13:33] Unknown:
I believe she does have one. You're right. Ask about Massachusetts.
[02:13:37] Unknown:
Oh, what about the Department of Motor Vehicles? Do I need to send the, commissioner one of those?
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You can if you want. Yeah. I mean, I I maintain that you that that you can't put this in front of enough of these officials.
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Mhmm.
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Because what are you trying to do? Well, you're not only trying to serve them. And if they ask you, well, I'm fulfilling the front end of due process. Notice the right to be heard. You got any problem with this? Do you not understand it? I'll be happy to explain what I can to you.
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And I got a lot out of what the meaning of due process is today too. Just so simple. Why? It's so simple. Notice and the right to be heard. That's it. Yeah. I didn't I didn't even know what that's that's what it meant. So that's that's awesome.
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It helps a lot. And as Brent would say, you see, our common law is process. It's not the outcome, which the law of the city is outcome oriented. They adjust whatever they do internally to achieve an outcome. We do everything internally correctly and follow the correct process, and it doesn't matter what the outcome is, it will be correct.
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Palmer?
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Yes, ma'am. Palmer. Yes. Thank you, Roger. Yes. Who is the other lady there?
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Annette. So, I heard it Hi, Annette. How are you? Oh, doing good. Alright. So, I heard from Linda Louise about the firm books. I went to my local post office, and they acted like that would just didn't exist. They didn't know what I was talking about. In Texas, there's something called a county seat, which is the main city of
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The county.
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County. So I went to the county seat, and, at their main post office or the old downtown, I should say, Yep. They knew he oh, no one's has asked for this in years. So so, so if if her post office doesn't have it, try the the county seat. If if her state Try a bigger city in your county.
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That's good, Annette. Thank you. You're welcome. You very much. May I? I think that is sketch. Correct?
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Yep.
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Yes, sir. I was I was wondering. I might have misheard Mark when he was when the small f state and the large f state was, talked about, but I think I heard from him that a big s a big s state, a capital state is the sovereign one. Did I miss mishear that?
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No, I did not say that. I said it is like a nation or a country.
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So so okay, so it is a nation or a country. So when we pledge allegiance to a small s state, is is that allegiance misplaced? And we should actually be actually swearing allegiance to a nation state?
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Well, it is a nation state. When you change and file your affidavit, it turns it into a nation state like the first thirteen colonies considered themselves to be countries. I think you're reverting back to that sketch.
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Well, look at what the pledge of allegiance says
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to The United States Of America.
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Correct.
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So I don't know I don't know how that applies to this. If I knew what I knew when I was in fourth grade, if I knew what I knew today when I was in fourth grade, I don't know if I'd be saying the pledge of allegiance. I don't know. It's it's all brainwashing is what that is for. You know, patriotic is is what they're trying to do and get you connect that with the the gold French flag, of course, because that's what the straw man loves. And,
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I'm just asking. The capitalization is so important, and now the United and the constitution or the declaration of independence. United is not capitalized. Now it is. Did it change things?
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I don't know. I've never seen anybody object to it or bring that out before. I've seen patriots use that. I've heard the line of thinking behind it. I've never seen any kind of reaction one way or the other.
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This
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Roger. There's a difference catch again. United States. And,
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and, I live in a box of paints, and I'm trying to just clear up. I thought we swore allegiance to a small s state.
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Is that correct or not? I don't know. What what's these did you have you reviewed the official, enactment of the Pledge of Allegiance and see how it's spelled out? I don't know. Do you
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know about the the state department certificate, that is a basis of what we do here? It's what's it called, Roger? The certificate
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of noncitizen nationality. Nationality. And it's not a basis of what we do here because that is aimed at the American Samoans. But because they've by by bifibracated or made those two things the same thing in our minds, it's very educational and instructive to be able to go in and differentiate the differences because that document deals with American Samoa.
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Thank you. And also, you know, I don't think I should swear allegiance to any state, but I'm just trying to clear up which one if we were to, it would be the big state the all cap state. Right? You're That's the one we're gonna know. You're swearing allegiance to them when you file the affidavit sketch, and reciprocally,
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automatically, you're gonna get the state's protection. Okay? Sorry. That's the way it is. If you don't wanna do that, don't be a national. Okay? Right. Yeah. I got you. Alright. Small estate.
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May I? It's small estate.
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Yes, ma'am. What about it? A voice a distant voice.
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What about the school? This is huge.
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Part one. We're gonna have to hold on a second. What sketch?
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That's to that's as a national, we pledge our allegiance to a small s state. And that is the state of America? No. US. No. No. No. It's your state. It's one of the states that make up the union. Smallest state is one of the many independent states that make up the union of United States Of America and not the US government. There's a difference. You gotta be clear in your mind.
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Puerto Rico and the territories. That's capital s.
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Yep.
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Muse.
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A couple of things. As Mark has said in the past, if we put our definitions at the top or somewhere in there and we define what we're saying
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Then they apply.
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Then it applies all the way throughout. That's how I did it. And so I went in many circles with the smallest state on mine saying that regardless of how I state it, this is what I'm referring to when I say state.
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That's a good way to do it. You may wanna put at the top of your affidavit, the definition of terms, and break those terms. Alright. I've never thought about that, Mark. It's not a bad idea.
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No. That's a good idea. Yeah.
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And and isn't it supposed to be these United States
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Of America? Doc.
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Yeah. I'll be. But most of the people can if you if you start talking like that, they think you are crazy. Because they relate to one citizenship, one status, and as we know, that's DC, the federal government.
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Yep. Roger.
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Larry.
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Yes. So when you place something in the mail, it's considered received. That's what you've always taught. Well, please. And I can confirm that because I have If it's stamped
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if it's stamped at the front desk, it's considered received. They interacted with you. You didn't just drop it in the box in the drive thru outside. Then I don't think it would be considered received.
[02:22:34] Unknown:
Right. And I can confirm that in two ways. Alright? And I'm holding in my hand a form 3800. That is a US Postal Service certified mail receipt. So when you, when you go to the post office with your certified mail, they tear off their portion, which they're gonna give to you. Well, they tear off your portion and they stamp it and it says postmark here and it has a date and it has an official stamp or seal on it. And that is your proof they received it. And I also can verify that fact by thinking about, what everybody does, when it comes to the deadline when everyone is trying to file their taxes with the IRS, the post office sometimes will stay, at least here in Jacksonville, will stay open later and they are getting in line and they will get their documents, their envelope stamped. And as long as it's within that date, it's considered received.
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Yep. They used to do that in Atlanta too, you know, and they show the big lines. There's this little Cheshire Bridge Road post office there in Buckhead. And you we'd look at it and go, look at all those sheep just staying in line up to midnight to get sheared.
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That's a great place to hand out national, national status flyers.
[02:23:58] Unknown:
Well, that's coming up. And, let me promote this. So sometime between now and the the real the real April Fools' Day, we'll, I'll do a show where I'll give you the whole history, origin, history, all the intricacies of the English statute staple tax system and how that has been brought over. Things have been changed, and it's our tax system. So, we'll do that in the next grand month and a half.
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I have a question for Mark about mailing. When it comes to the court system, if it's just regular mail, they allow three days for receipts. Right. Oh, that's probably good difference. There is a difference when you mail it certified as opposed to just first class. And let me tell you, I had my
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What would the what would make the difference, Sherry?
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If that's a court rule.
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Yeah. Oh, with dealing with courts. Okay. Hold on. I know that if it I know if it's registered, it will take longer because everybody's got a sign for it that that touches it. But I didn't know that that applied to certified.
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Let me explain that to everybody that you're talking about. First class. Carrie, the court that three days that you're talking about and and saying it's court rule has to do with if you're not receiving electronic service of the documents court documents, that three day rule applies to your deadline to respond. So if I receive a motion Oh. And my normal deadline is ten days, I'm given an extra three days because I received it by
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Yeah. I understand now. Yep.
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That's what that three day is. Saying that,
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different rules apply depending on what venue you
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Yeah. Dealing
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with. Yes. Yes. But he's talking specifically about suit Harry, Sherry, please. He's talking specifically about lawsuit stuff or the time to respond is adjusted because of that, not anything else to my understanding. Is that right, Mark?
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That's correct. And as a little quick side note, if you receive that letter outside of three days, in other words and I've seen this happen especially with whatever was going on with the post office right now. I've seen letters mailed, and it could be seven days before you receive it. So what we do is we put in a quick notice, with the court and file it and just say, we received this document on such and such date. The deadline to file is this date. And we file it with the court, send a copy to the opposing attorney, never had anybody say anything about doing such. They never challenged our our updated deadline.
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I Thank you for that, Mark. I appreciate that. Yep. Okay. So it had to do with suits. Nothing else. Just a general, specific rule for a specific situation. Okay. Who else? Who else? Roger.
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Yes. Roger. Jerry Jerry Garcia in California, Mexico.
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Yes, sir. How can we Yeah. There's a
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there's a court case, Biffle Biffle versus Morton Rubber Industries that states that, instrument is deemed to file in law regardless of whether it's file marked.
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And, and Repeat that again, please, Jerry. Something is considered oh, please repeat that.
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Biffle
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v Morton, rubber m Bissle?
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B I s s e l?
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F f b
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b I f f e l.
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Bissle. Yeah. One of the bit bad names from the founding of the country, Bailey Banks and oh, that's Biddle. Okay. I think these go ahead.
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Anyway, but it's it it's, got a quote in it that says the instrument is deemed filed in law regardless of whether it is postmarked. Anyway, that's just a court case. But anyway, I finally filed for my, today, I finally filed for my passport.
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Okay. Good. And I put all that
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all that, the citizenship affidavit and and, thank you, Mark, for all that information you and Roger gave me on that on that manual. You're welcome.
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You're welcome, Jerry. They they've got that expedited where it probably, turns around pretty quick. Is this 11 or 82? 11. Yes, sir. Okay. Your first time. So you had to go in the post office and sign it? Yes. Okay. Mhmm. Yes. Alright. Cool, Jerry.
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Congratulations. And they took all my they took all my paperwork, so we'll see. Yeah. Yep.
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Yep. Yep. So, good deal. Another another brick in the wall, so to speak. Okay. Who else got something? Have we exhausted the after hours? No.
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I'm curious on one last thing, and it's just I'm still a little confused on what do I call myself as Dan again as it relates to National? Just national. I call. American state national.
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America American national will work. We've seen that in a statute or something. Here's my complaint, Dan, and try and get people straightened out on from the the refugees, from the other instructors around the country. You don't wanna refer to yourself as a state national. Now that's not that that's not correct. It is correct. Right. But you can't find that term in any court case, any statute, or any regulation. Why do you wanna use it? You don't. And how about state citizen? I like state citizen. That were well, that's two years. You could put how about this? How about state citizen slash national?
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I love it. What is
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it for
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now? One of the people. I don't know. No. I'd be more explicit than that. That these dumbasses you're dealing with don't know those differences, I don't think, most of the time.
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They don't know what's going on. Trash. That's for sure. But one of the people are the ones who gave the authority for the government. I'm not arguing with you.
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We're dealing with bureaucrats.
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I know, but it doesn't hurt to
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to put that forward as well. Okay. To appease Sherry, national slash state citizen slash one of the people.
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Love it, Roger. I'm good. I'm good. Okay. Me too. Thank you, Roger. Have a delightful day.
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Well, okay. I hope so. We're seeing a little sun almost today. Yes.
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Could, that person repeat that this old versus rubber case? I don't I didn't get all that.
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Victor, do you have access to the Internet?
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Yes, sir.
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Well, if you go to, we have kind of like, I don't know what you call it, chat board. It's the number two, numeral two, RadioRanch period or dot chat and go. Let me spell that for you. C h a, t as in Thomas, a, n as in Nancy, g as in George, o. So that's number two radio ranch dot chatango dot com. And I posted it. It's Biffle, b I f f l e, versus Morton Rubber Industries Inc. Now what they're talking about or what whoever brought that case up was basically where a prisoner had mailed a a court document and the clerk received it. And even though the clerk didn't stamp it as filed, as soon as the the court clerk receives it, it's considered filed. That's what you're talking about. Okay.
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Okay. Thank you. Got that, Nathan. That's the the normal mailing to
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Now. Yeah. So What about court clerks? Yeah. And that's, it their ideal.
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Yeah. That's another chat group that, our our old dear friend, Murr, who used to hang around here set up, and it applies to everybody, not just the people on the FCC chat. K? So thank you. I posted the link to that case down there. Yeah. And the thing is is I put it in our chat with FCC. If it's a FCC chat, when they close this, it'll go away. If it's the Chitango thing, it stays. That's the difference. Yep. Okay? Yep. Alright. Who else? Any stragglers? We're looking for stragglers.
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Oh. We're talking all this time about Russia. We couldn't talk about this stuff.
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Golly. I have one question. I'll I'll be a
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I knew I knew we could chum one up. Yes, ma'am.
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I'll I'll be a drag one. Yeah. It's a pretty quick question. When I first started listening to your show in August, I dropped the affidavit in the mail. I did write down the mail, just didn't think anything of it. But then I did another one certified in December or November to make sure they got it. Am I supposed to get something back in the mail confirming that this was received?
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No. It's better that you don't get anything back because silence deems consent. I sent it twice, so I don't know if they would have confirmation. No. Because, of course, when I do, I wrote down, I don't know why I did certify. Okay. Well, here's the magic question. Have you applied for a passport with it yet?
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Not yet.
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I would do that. You don't have to buy the whole passport book unless you're going to go do international traveling, and then you need that. But you can order a $30 passport card and include the affidavit in with the package. And now you've got the highest form of identification issued by the federal government of the United States, and it's attached to your statement of your new status. It's a very important thing to do. Okay. Okay? Alright. Yeah. Yeah. It's simple enough. Just let me get it's pretty simple. The let me just before we move from the lady, do you already have a passport or not?
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I do. And I also have the passport card, but I haven't updated it yet. I sent it the affidavit. Okay. Well, all you have to do is go get a 80 2
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and just order another card and include the affidavit in with it.
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Okay. Perfect. I could do that.
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Okay. Yeah. Thank you. What's your name? Yeah. Let me get her name. Hello, Roger. What was your name, ma'am? Yes. Your first time we've spoken, I think. Oh, it's Yeah. No. He quotes me for Oh, okay. Well, I I I know about pretty, and we want your book report on your trip to Washington. So we'll do that another time. Yeah. Who is who's one of the guys trying to get everything crazy. Mhmm. Okay, babe. Thank you. May I know? Alright. Who's Yes. You yes. You may. I think that's sketch. Yeah. Yeah. Just one one last question I asked my retired lawyer brother. We were talking about trust about what his definition
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for a person is. And he and he couldn't come up with it so I said well, I have a one sentence definition and it is the one you give, it's that the law ascribes rights and duties and he came back and he said oh no no there's obligations there's obligations
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involved. What do you think a duty is?
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I know exactly so I'm wondering but he said that was separate so what my question is is, duties under obligation, or is that a separate That's a whole separate
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form of law. They're synonyms.
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Okay. Synonymous. Alright. I was gonna I was gonna ask Mark because he
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he's he's in the Just like hold it. Let's take the other side. A right is equal to a benefit, isn't it? Yep. Okay. Same thing.
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I wonder if Mark has a comment on obligations.
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No. I would say it's the same thing. That's what I was thinking. Okay. Thank you. I yield. There I mean, those should be often used interchangeably. You know?
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That's what I'm saying with the state. Now that we switch statuses, that formula switches. Now they have an obligation to provide us with protection. It's a duty. They're synonymous. Right. Right. Your brother is just try your brother doesn't want his artist, bohemian brother telling him anything about law. They never taught him in law school or he came across in his practice. He doesn't want you to get one upsmanship on him. That's what's going on here.
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Yeah. Understood. And, I did ask him if he did ever come across a guy Institute of Guy. I said he's a no never heard of it. So there you go. That's good. High yield. Hey, hey, Scott. Okay. Let let me I I just quickly looked this up, and I think it's pretty interesting.
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It says that duty sometimes implies a stronger moral or ethical imperative associated with the specific role or position, while obligation refers to more of a general requirement to do something often arising from a contract or legal situation. And then later, it says in legal terms, obligation might refer to the specific legal requirement, while duty refers to the action one must perform to fulfill that obligation.
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That's a very good definition. And even though they're saying that really splits them, doesn't it?
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Yeah. Yes. It is. Mark, could you put that in both chats, please? I really appreciate it. Thank you so much. I hear it. Yes, please. Thank you. You you go go run. You just insist on going and rubbing your brother's nose in it, don't you? Well, I mean I mean, I asked him to send the question definition of a person, and he couldn't give me one. And then I gave him mine, and then he comes back to this crap. And I'm going, okay. Alright. Well, you're both right. You're both right. He's talking about he's giving you the legal,
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and and you're giving him the moral.
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Lawful. Lawful. Yeah. Lawful. Yes. Exactly. There you go.
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Okay. Let me make a point of Thank you.
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Alright. Alright. Yes. Is there somebody else? Yes. There is. Okay. Hello, Roger.
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Hello.
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Every time yeah. Every time the de facto adds a word to anything or a word gets added to what we know, armed or now it's firearms, every time there's an addition, that's de facto business. Even this obligation thing sounds like the way they parse out in the de facto UCC, the difference between contract and agreement. That's de facto hair splitting. And the only exception I've ever seen is the trial by jury happened to have more words in it than jury trial. The only time I've ever seen a short net. Everything else, they add a word.
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Yeah. That's the law of the city stuff for you. Scholasticism, as Brent would say. Alright. Anybody else? If I don't get out of here, pretty soon it's gonna start raining. Anybody else got something for me? Yes. I want Yes, ma'am. One of to these these splitting of the here in the words.
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Sorry versus
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apologize. Ah, isn't that interesting? Well, I can see there'd be a difference there. One, you're saying I'm sorry. The other, you're asking for their for your their forgiveness kinda.
[02:40:50] Unknown:
Right. Well, when they say apologize, they it tends to be less binding. Whereas if you do you're sorry, it's more from heartfelt, it ties you more personally to whatever happened. So a lot of times, these, those people, individuals where they will say apologize because they don't want that tie. They don't want it to lessen them.
[02:41:25] Unknown:
Yeah. And they get out there and apologize real sincerely, don't they?
[02:41:29] Unknown:
Yes. Yes. But they'll never say sorry.
[02:41:33] Unknown:
Yep. Yep. Roger. Roger? Roger. Yeah. I would I would like to tell everybody to you personally that I am sorry for anything that I've done to harm you.
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And thank you, Mark. You know, okay. If you wanna bring it up, I I put a lot of No. I don't wanna this last No. Well, I No. I don't wanna bring it up. I'm just I'm just Well, we found out some information. Before, I had to tell you I don't know. You know, you're right. I say, the only dumb question is the one that didn't ask. And I also add, if I can't answer it, I'll tell you I don't know. And every time that's ever came up, I told you, I don't know. I've never looked into it. I'd asked the audience, has anybody got any information on this? No one ever responded till the other day.
K? And so that's my frustration, like I told you when you brought it up that Saturday. And I said, do we have any proof this exists? And you said, no. Well, I've already said I don't know anything about it and didn't trust it. K? So I and then it's escalated. So, anyway, here's what's happened. Samuel came on at the end of Monday's show. I don't remember if we were over or not and said it's a trust where people thought they could get money back. And as I've thought about that, now I remember where I saw it in the nineties or not where, but hearing about it and why I never investigated it. Because I never expect anybody to get any money back from these bastards except this little ROE thing we found.
Okay? So it was some scam or a a line of patriot thought where they thought this trust, which was founded in the fourteen hundreds, Samuel said, where the source was, I don't know. But where people thought maybe that your taxes were going in there or they were taking some value from using you as commercial activity and imputing it into this trust and that you could go and apply to it somehow and get money back. And that's why I never looked into it any further because I never expect that to happen. K? And so that's what it has nothing to do with us and what we do here except that these people erroneously thought that I it imputed money somehow, and I don't know how. I don't remember. I don't care about it. I could see no way unless there was some tie in to the fourteenth amendment how it would affect what we do. And that's what I've always asked. Can somebody bring me forward some attachment from this trust to the fourteenth amendment? And, obviously, nobody has.
So I accept your apology, and everything's okay. Alright? We've I found out some more information. I know now and can explain it in my mind and to you guys a little bit better, and it has nothing to do with this is the short answer.
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Under understood. And I totally respect that, Roger. And, when I brought up some when I wanted to talk to you on the show Monday I did not even want to talk about that subject I just wanted to have a clarifying, question and that's my fault and not communicating that we're not dealing with, what we cover Saturday we're on a new topic but with the high yield and
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when I make that statement about the only dumb question is the one that you didn't ask, I'm pointing that to what we do here and not things you know, hell, I can't sit down and discuss string theory with you either. Of no or any of these other things because I don't know shit about them. And if I don't, I'll tell you.
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Yep. I'm not, I appreciate you.
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I'm not, egotistical or anything in that realm. There's a bunch of shit I don't know about. Now there's some stuff I know more about than almost anybody in the world. And I'm proud of that. Okay? Yeah. But if I don't know, I'll tell you. I won't lie to you like some of these other charlatans.
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Under understood and respected. And I love Paul's motto, forward looking, freedom, focused. Thank you. I yield. Forward looking freedom. Yeah. This is
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Chris from California.
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And what's your name again? And
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Chris from California. Oh, Chris. Okay. Okay.
[02:46:03] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah, buddy. What you got? Yeah.
[02:46:06] Unknown:
Okay. Just just just a few little corrections. When you say I'm sorry, you're accepting responsibility for what you did. Okay. You're admitting guilt. When you apologize, you're not admitting guilt. You're just basically, you could just be brushing them off. Okay. That's a good way to look at it. Also regarding, residency, I don't believe that, we should have ever ever be using that word at this point because, we're not residents anywhere.
[02:46:39] Unknown:
Our residency is a state of mind. We are. Up in the Chris, you're a spiritual We're domiciles. No. Your residency is in heaven. Your residency And those are different. Black's Law Dictionary, first edition on residence. Your residence is where you receive your rights and discharge your duties. Now that you've got an affidavit filed, we're back under the creator and god given rights. So that's where we get our rights and to whom we owe our duties, and that's our residency. That's legitimate.
[02:47:18] Unknown:
Okay. I'll look that up. I've never looked at Black's Law first edition. I'll take a look at that. First edition. Yeah. Oh.
[02:47:25] Unknown:
Now do you know and the other Okay. Do you have you heard us discuss the origin of this and how it's being used, Chris? You're fairly new. Yeah. Probably. Haven't. I don't I don't know that we've discussed it. The origin that they're using is from ambassadorial law. When countries sign a treaty and exchange ambassadors, The ambassador is in residence. Now what that means is the country where he is resident in, laws do not apply to him. The country where he's from, laws apply to him because he is in residence. So if the Ecuadorian hold on. Let me finish. If the Ecuadorian ambassador, Ecuadorian guy, got caught at Dulles up there with a kilo of cocaine in his diplomatic pouch, they wouldn't send him trying to the federal courts to send him to prison. They'd send him back to Ecuador.
Now when you that's why they've got this loaded in there. So when they ask you if you're a resident, there's a geographical definition that's been added. Oh, yeah. I live over there. But we're talking political. And I've maintained for a long time, a, this is the most dangerous word in the new world order scheme because every country wants you to be one. And b, excuse me for coughing. Then if we could go back and find where they added the geographical definition to this term, you'll probably find the origins of this plan. K?
[02:49:16] Unknown:
Yeah.
[02:49:18] Unknown:
Okay. Then the other thing I wanted to touch on was the all cap. If Yes. Anyone goes to a cemetery if you go to a cemetery, you'll see that every name on every cell cap. Is in all of the case. Yep. That's because they're dead. Yeah. Okay. And, corporations put in all of the case also because they're also dead. And so
[02:49:45] Unknown:
so that's something to be aware of. Alright. Well, a lot of people weigh in. My straw man's doing a jig in the corner. I bet he is. Well, the Chris, can you answer me this? Why did the Seventh Circuit in Chicago, the appellate level, just ask you all the courts that feed them documents there to not submit their stuff in all caps?
[02:50:04] Unknown:
Did you know that? Well, I wasn't aware of that. That's very interesting.
[02:50:09] Unknown:
Okay. Well, that came from Brent, by the way. Yeah. K.
[02:50:13] Unknown:
Yeah. That's good. So,
[02:50:15] Unknown:
anyway, now thing must be having an influence.
[02:50:18] Unknown:
Oh, okay. Whatever. Anybody? Well, they said it was hard to read. Harder to read. Either. Anybody? Okay. Yes. Yes, ma'am. Hi, Roger. Oh, hold on. I'm gonna set up my campfire. Yes, ma'am. Go ahead.
[02:50:37] Unknown:
It's me, Julie. So I've been researching this a lot and you always wanted to know how the Sesqui Katie trust, how it could relate to the fourteenth Amendment and I found information that states that a citizen of The United States is a civilly dead entity operating as a co trustee trustee and co beneficiary of the public charitable trust. The constructive SESDWE KB Trust of USA Inc. Under the fourteenth Amendment, which upholds the debt of The USA and US Inc, which is in the congressional record, 06/13/1967, pages fifteen six forty one to fifteen six forty six.
[02:51:23] Unknown:
Okay. So what does that mean? Is are we are we contributing funds to this trust somehow? Where's the source on this?
[02:51:38] Unknown:
Well, it's a lot of research I've been doing, so I would have to find it and tell you later because I don't want you to have to set your campfire, and it's getting really late for you. We should probably go Okay. That's okay. I would also say go go look up that congressional record and make sure it says what they say it says. That's what I have to do, Mark. So thanks. I haven't had a chance to do that yet, but I did pull it up.
[02:51:59] Unknown:
Julie, email me that and I'll Julie, email me that and what you just read off and maybe we could look up that congressional record. Okay. Okay. So they're inferring
[02:52:11] Unknown:
that somehow what your tax money is, part of it's given to them or what's the conclusion here?
[02:52:22] Unknown:
They used our warehouse receipt our our birth certificate. I I have to I have to come back to you on this. I'm trying to put the pieces of the puzzle together because my first instinct was to try to see to answer your question on how that was connected to the fourteenth amendment. So that's what I started with, but I haven't had a chance to finish that. So I'm gonna email Mark this. And I I pulled up the congressional record, but I didn't have a a chance to read it. So I'll send this to you, Mark. And thank you very much. And, I and I yield, and I hope you all have a nice day. Okay. Thank you, Julia. Sounds like they're attributing some kind of funds going to this trust somehow,
[02:53:04] Unknown:
Mark, from my just what I have my initial gut reaction to what she read us. And I don't know. So if y'all find out anymore, let us know.
[02:53:14] Unknown:
I think there's a big pool. Some people think, you know, talk about the CUSIP number assigned to the birth certificate but somewhere there's a relationship to where they're holding us or I should say U. S. Citizens responsible for the public debt. And I think there's a probably a lot of money that's floating around in there and through your birth certificate, you can claim, I think Julie said, your co trustee or co beneficiary of it. So that's kind of the gist of it. I'm not saying I'm right or wrong. I you know, it's something I'm kind of delving into and and seeing where that goes. But I like your question, Roger. It's like, where is that tied? That's a very valid question.
[02:53:59] Unknown:
So some people think that they're going to apply to this trust to get funds back is what I gather. No. Yeah. Do you think if anybody had ever been successful about that, You think we'd know about it?
[02:54:14] Unknown:
Well, what was I gonna say, Roger? There's a lady who, was on your show before named Cheryl, and she says she pays all of her bills, using the SESP three KB Trust.
[02:54:26] Unknown:
Yes.
[02:54:29] Unknown:
Okay.
[02:54:34] Unknown:
Joe too. Joe says that we pay cards before we get with the trust. Okay.
[02:54:42] Unknown:
Well, I you know, then I may be totally wrong, and you guys might wanna look into this and go see if you can cash in on it.
[02:54:51] Unknown:
You won't I'll let you know this. The gravity.
[02:54:54] Unknown:
It's not consistent.
[02:54:59] Unknown:
Mark, go ahead. Share the
[02:55:02] Unknown:
Yeah. It's not boring when people when people use this to pay bills, it's not consistent. In other words, they may not accept it off the first one and then you just keep resending it and resending it. You know, every time they say we need to pay this bill and you know, I've I've heard of people tell me it's taken two years before they've accepted it. So and it's not all of them, but some accept it right off the bat. It goes through their process, whatever. Mhmm. Others, they had to keep resubmitting it. So it's very interesting. You've heard well, you've heard of this before then? No. Well, all kinds of versions for a long time. But the most recent one yeah. It's it's where and and Joe Lustica has commented where he's paid utility bills and so forth, and he said about 60% of those will go right through, but he's got some that get rejected. So Right. Who knows? You know, who knows how that
[02:56:02] Unknown:
how that goes through. Well, I wonder, you know, there's there's an UCC law. Hold on, Julie. There's a UCC. I don't know where it is. But if you tender payment and it's refused, it's considered paid. But it's got I guess it has to be an underlying legitimate instrument.
[02:56:19] Unknown:
Okay? Right. And it it also has it can't be just a partial amount. So, like, if I owe $10,000, I can't just put a restricted endorsement on a thousand dollar payment. They just pays for everything. That's not Of course. Enough to be there. Of course. Yes. Okay. Ask Julie. Hey, Mark. Okay. Hold on.
[02:56:39] Unknown:
Well, what I read was I got you Boris. Hold on. Go ahead, Julie.
[02:56:44] Unknown:
What what I read was that the birth certificate is an unrevealed trust and instrument originally designed for the children of the newly freed black slaves after the fourteenth Amendment and that the Bethany KB trust is an account that we all inherited due to the bankruptcy of The United States in 1933 and the seizing of all the citizens' gold, silver and other assets as collateral and it has hundreds of millions of billions of dollars, trillions in your name, I guess, and then that's they failed to inform us about it and how to access it. So that's basically what I've read. Well, that's what you've read. Okay. So let me ask you a question or two.
[02:57:26] Unknown:
Lisa, one day, we were talking about the birth certificate on here and when it did research, and some of the states were issuing birth certificates all the way back to the eighteen fifties. Now you're talking about the federal birth certificate, not a state birth certificate because that wasn't passed until nineteen twenty, twenty one, twenty two in the first depression. That's when it took on a federal picture, and I know that. Okay? So they knew they were gonna use this, and they knew their scheme. So they instituted that law in the twenties.
So when they did pull the string, they got thirteen years of birth certificates to attach to the new United States bonds to replace the bankrupt ones they bankrupted the country with. Right. Right. So I don't know about that.
[02:58:19] Unknown:
Yeah. Okay. But what I read, Roger, was that all the states pledged us as collateral for loans of credit from the Federal Reserve System. And so that's the clause of the constitution article one section one, which provides that that's what I've that's what I've read.
[02:58:38] Unknown:
And that would apply to 1933.
[02:58:43] Unknown:
Right.
[02:58:45] Unknown:
And then still they have to give us a remedy for what they Yeah. The affidavits
[02:58:53] Unknown:
yeah. The affidavits your remedy.
[02:58:57] Unknown:
Absolutely. No doubt. But what I'm saying is how they're plundering and pilfering from the people.
[02:59:05] Unknown:
Oh my god. Just look at what dozer's coming up with a day to day. Do you know, Sherry, that they found a a Social Security rep a recipient that was 308 years old? Yes. Have you heard that yet? Yes. I have. Okay. Alright. Then that I have to kinda answer your question. Has a good day. Thank you, Mark. Mark. Look. I gotta go too. I I mean, you guys there are people that will stay on here till the middle of the night. Okay? I'm going. I give you two hours. I ask her questions. I I I I try and do anything for you, but now it's my time. K?
[02:59:48] Unknown:
Alright. And, Shima, you got her. You asked for it. You have a delightful day.
[02:59:54] Unknown:
Well, I I will. I stayed on with you, because I didn't have anything pressing to do this this afternoon, but I'm getting hungry. And, and I do have a life besides this, And and I insist on having it. So, I will, I'll see you soon. Tomorrow, like tomorrow. And we can listen. We can just continue this and start this right up from the start. Are you kidding? But when I ask questions, don't sit back there in the back.
[03:00:23] Unknown:
You're careful what you asked for, Roger.
[03:00:29] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. Well, I'm glad to see you're you're like I feel like a mother bird coming to the nest and all the little birdling. Cheep, cheep, cheep, cheep. I'll see y'all tomorrow. Bye. Yeah. Thank you. Okay. That 300
[03:00:47] Unknown:
year old. Opportunity. Sorry. Sorry, Sketch. I'm gonna seize the opportunity to, shut the stream down so I can, do this, that, and the other thing. Let me see if, stuff is yes. Stuff is working good. Okay. This has been the Radio Ranch with Roger Sales on eurofolkradio.com, Global Voice Radio Network, and radio soapbox for the first hour today. For more information on the topics discussed, please go to the matrixdocs, d 0 c s Com, and, you can find all kinds of stuff. You can find the links to the radio streams. You can find links to Radio Ranch one zero one and, key interviews and, testimonials.
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Introduction and Show Overview
Market Updates and Economic Insights
Weather and Personal Updates
Discussion on the Colergy Plan
Controversial Figures and Social Dynamics
Recent Plane Crash Analysis
Military Aircraft Stories
Political Commentary and Global Affairs
Historical Context of Conflicts
Listener Interactions and Personal Stories
Legal Processes and Advice
Clarifications and Listener Questions
Residency and Legal Definitions
Trusts and Financial Systems