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In this episode, we delve into the intricacies of the  Network's programming and the various platforms it broadcasts on, including Eurofolk Radio and WBOU FM Chicago. We discuss the importance of recognizing contributors and the collaborative efforts involved in extending the network's reach.

Our conversation shifts to a discussion with John Kasarab about a recent meeting where a speaker, a lieutenant colonel, failed to show up. This leads to a broader discussion on the challenges faced by individuals involved in the January 6 events and the tragic outcomes for some.

We explore the topic of patriotism and the complexities surrounding gun rights and ownership, with insights into the challenges of automatic weapons and the community's response to gun legislation.

The episode also touches on the Social Security system, with a deep dive into the numbers of recipients and the implications of these figures. We discuss the potential for fraud and the challenges of verifying the legitimacy of Social Security claims.

We then move into a discussion on the concept of trusts, the legal implications, and the myths surrounding the Chester KV Trust. The conversation highlights the importance of understanding the legal framework and the potential pitfalls of relying on unverified information.

Finally, we discuss the significance of the birth certificate process, the potential for fraud, and the implications of the CUSIP number in tracking financial transactions. The episode concludes with a reflection on the power dynamics at play in the legal and financial systems and the importance of understanding these structures to navigate them effectively.

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Yep. Here we go. So the week, we're trying, you know, we go take another shot at a week of it, six days anyway.   Patriot Week is six days, I guess.   Roger Sales, your host, John Casera, basically gonna be with us for the first hour as he normally is on Mondays,   February 17.   So   we're a couple of days past Swedish day, and,   we've got a lot of,   a lot of help here. I think Monday's is Monday a big help day, Paul, or not? Yeah. I know we've got more than Saturday.   So, anyway, the other folks that help us extend our reach there, and we ask Paul to give them credit and recognize them because   they've earned it.  



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Right.   Yes. We have,   we're on Eurofolkradio.com,   of course.   That's our flagship station. Thanks to pastor Eli James. We're on Global Voice Radio Network, My Pet Project.   The links to Eurofolk and Global Voice as well as the links to free conference call to join us live on the show are on the website,   thematrixdocs.com.   We're also on one zero six point nine WBOU   FM   Chicago for the first hour   and,   both hours of the program.   We're also on WDRN   productions,   streams home network dot TV, freedom nation dot TV, go live TV, and streamlife.tube.   That's a collaborative effort between WDRN   productions and Stream Life Networks Mhmm.  

The   net family of broadcast services. Yeah. Thanks, Alan.   That is about it.  

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About it on Monday. Okay. We're did you say soapbox in there? You're I hear you fine, but it's your your voice is not really up front. Are you away from your mal   microphone or tilting your data?  

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No. So it's that's that's just the way Zoom is sending my voice to you. It's it's coming out over the stream just fine. Okay.   So I really don't know what's going on there. Oh, I will. But, any any big deal. It's just,  

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not normal. So, anyway, that's alright. I could hear you.  

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Radio Soapbox.  

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Yeah.   Radio Soapbox is Tuesdays through Friday. Oh, Tuesday through Friday. Okay. My mistake. Sorry.   John Kasarab is with us, though, today this morning. Mhmm. John?   Yes. Welcome. How are you doing, my friend? Yeah. Good to hear your voice.  

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Alive alive and well. Oh, good. Well, that's  

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that's good.   Tell us about your, Sunday meeting yesterday. Did you go to it?  

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I did. And the the   the speaker didn't show. He was a lieutenant colonel who was a j sixer.   And, we got it all set up, and and he was to call in. It was another remote call, but, he didn't show up. Now we've had   probably five or six j sixers that came and spoke before they got arrested and then, you know, while they were in a prison,   and then now they've been released.   But, we were really surprised, and we couldn't reach the guys. So something must have come up and something must have happened. Gosh. You never know with any of those guys. You know, two of them have been killed,  

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shot by cops. Did you know that? No. I didn't. It hadn't got any kind of press very much. One of them was on a traffic stop. For some reason, the other one, they busted in his house, but they've, police,   have killed two of them.   Wow. Quite funny. I hadn't heard very I've heard it mentioned, And we asked about it, and somebody on here had had more details, but   tragic. You know? Very tragic for those guys.  

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Wow.   Even even if, you know, even if they didn't get a lot of press, what press they did get,   the stories   were,   were slanted   that   one of the j six insurrectionists   that the article   that was talking about this person being killed by cops actually had the bent that, well, he was an insurrectionist.   So,   there's So he got what was coming to him. In this article that's going to make you bleed for him or anything. Yeah. He got what was coming to him. Right? Right. Exactly. So it just more propaganda and BS.  

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So These people are just   Pieces of They're flailing, man. They're really they they're they're desperate.   Yeah. And,   mister Trump and his delegates   continue to pound them. So what did you do when your guest didn't show up, John? Did you get a tap dance or what? No. No. As you know, we always have opinions  

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about everything. So   people would get up to the microphone and they would start talking about   different things that are going on and their opinion about what's going on.   While   the discussion mainly was   how positive things were going   and,   that, you know, everything is gonna be good. I had to get up and spoil party because   my view is is that the enemy is within us and the enemy is going to attack.   And,   I'm thinking military all the time.   They're ignoring the fact that we have   over 2,000,000 data ways that create about 200 divisions,   that are ready to attack every single city, our water structures Right. And our, electricity structures   simultaneously.  



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Mhmm.  

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And when that happens,   these people are thinking that they're gonna be some kind of walk in the park. This is gonna destroy our ability to have a civilization.  

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These folks don't quit. Okay? You can look back through history.   That that's why I've said, oh, you know, the in my mind or the the in understanding I've been able to gather,   They either gotta kill us  

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or we gotta kill them or we can't have anything to do with them. And the gun pushers are still trying to get the guns, and I think the there's some positive pushback.  

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Yeah. I hope. And and and I still can't get anybody in the gun community's attention. I have not been able to ever.   Mhmm. Ever.   Well, you're talking about the leaders, the so called, organization. I'm talking about even the people out there that are gun advocates.  

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Oh, yeah. They they don't like to let people know   what's going on with them.  

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Well, I I just don't know what the reason is. I mean, that one kinda has always baffled me, really.  

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Patriot patriotism has always been a cash   cow. Anything that they wanna do, they just label it as a patriotic event, and everybody's ready to jump on board even though they're Well. They're signing their own death warrant. Oh, you see, it's all you well, I gotta get a  

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pay $200   and get a tax stamp to have a automatic weapon. Well, first of all, why the hell do you want an automatic weapon? You got a warehouse full of ammo behind you?   Because that's what you need if you're gonna use that thing effectively.  

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Yeah. You you you can't.  

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You just don't want an automatic weapon.   Have you ever John, you fired automatic weapons. Paul, have you ever fired one?  

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Yes.  

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200 rounds in the blink of an eye. Yep. And and I had a little nine millimeter fully automatic a friend of mine had. And by the time I ran through a clip of 20 something rounds. And by the time that the thing ejected the last round, the barrel was 45 degrees up at the sky.   I don't know if I was shooting at sparrows   or what.  

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Okay. Yeah. You can't control the fire. You can't.   You you gotta I I was I used to play,   John Wayne, over there, and I would get up with an m 60 machine gun, and I'd hand hold it. And I would have to be leaning forward almost at a 45 degree angle to keep that thing down on a target.   And it goes through your belt. So a civilian,   the best thing   what I like is the three round fire.   It fires three rounds, you get a tight group, and you conserve your ammo because   it's only 20 to 30 rounds usually.   You you really can't trust those bigger magazines. They jam. It's it's  

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and and the other, you gotta have belt fed or, like I said, a warehouse full of ammunition staff behind you. Right. And somebody to start sticking them into belts or clips for you and hand them to you. It's it's just ridiculous. So why   I say, well, look. I can show you where you get full. You think you got a second amendment right? Well, why do you have to go through a licensed dealer and have all this background? Doesn't sound like a right to me. It sounds like a privilege.   Right. Okay. Now I can show you how to get your right back. No. No. I wouldn't be interested in that.   No. No. No. I don't I don't want anything to do with that. Thank you.  



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Yeah. Yeah.  

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As soon as we're done with this conversation, I've got an interesting tidbit that, Andy brought up   this morning.  

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Okay. We might be able to talk about for a couple of minutes. Well, alright. I mean, I just that is one thing that perplexed me   from the start of my endeavor into this. And when we really got answers   is why we can't get that community   who ought to be the first ones in line,   why we can't get their attention.  

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Well, the other thing is is that unless you got a a good quality rifle,   your barrel gets so hot Yes. That you can wear that thing out very fast. Oh, oh, yeah. Yeah. And trying to touch the the the Don't do that.   You'll regret it. Yeah. If you're trying to change a barrel, you gotta wait till it cools off.  

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Yeah. That's why there's a forearm stuck.   Yeah. It could be something So,  

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Paul, what have you you wanna launch us off in another direction? Was that what I gathered from your comment? Yeah. I I dropped, I dropped a picture in both the, Zoom chat and the FCC chat.  

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It's a picture,   and there's two columns. There's an age range and account.   And I can just, you know, take potshots at a few of them, let you know. Zero through nine is 38,825,000,   10 through $1,944,000,000.  

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What are we what are we gauging here? We're getting there. We're getting there.  

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20 to 29, 40 7 million, 30 to 30 9, 50 2 million,   40 to 40 9, 40 7 million,   50 to 59, 40 5 million, 60 to 69, 40 six million,   70 to 79,   30 three million,   80 to 80 nine, 15 million.   And this is where the fund starts, 90 to 99,   6 million, 1 hundred to 1 hundred and 9, 4 million, 1 hundred and 10 to 119,   3 million,   1 hundred and 20 to $1.29,   3 million, 1 30 to one thirty nine, three 4 almost 4,000,000,   1 40 to $1.49,   3 and a half million,   1 50 to $1.59,   1 point 3 million,   1 60 to one sixty nine, a 21,000,   one 70 to one seventy nine. This is getting crazy.   6,180   to 189,   six hundred and 90   five or is that 895?  

I don't know. I can't see.   190 to 199,   4 40 8, 2 to 200 9, 8   70 9,   2 10 to 219,   8 60 6,   2 20 to 229,   one thousand and 30 nine, two hundred and 40 to 249,   one, and three hundred and 60 to three hundred and sixty nine one. It's a total of 394,943,364,   but what do all those numbers have in common?   They're the latest release   of the Doge bucket of fun facts, and those are people   that   all   collect   Social Security.  

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Yeah. I wish you'd have given us that information upfront. Just given all those numbers without a reference just kinda  

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leaves you hanging. But yeah. Yeah. That's okay. That's okay. Well, that was that was that was the fun part. You know? I mean, what could all these numbers mean? Okay.  

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I see.   Okay. Yeah. I heard him say there was some somebody say there's one over a 50. I think it was Elon.  

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Yeah. There no. No. There's more than 150.  

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Okay. There's 150,000,000,000.   Well, all those numbers meant nothing to us because we had no reference point. So would you go back now   and start at a hundred and give us up to a 50?   I agree with Roger.  

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Thank you, Farris. One hundred to 109,  

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four point seven million, one hundred and 10 to 100 Hold on. Hold on. A hundred to a hundred and nine, the first, decade. How many?  

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4,700,000.  

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Oh, bullshit.  

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Yeah. A 10   to a hundred and 19, 3 point 6 million. Double bullshit.   A 20 to a 29,   three point four   million. Oh, my god. Hundred and 30 to a hundred and 30 nine, three point nine million.   Hundred and 40 to 149,   3 point 5 4 2 million.  

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No.   Well,   yikes. I would imagine those accounts will be getting a little follow-up, do you think? Yeah. Maybe just a little bit. 394943  

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no. 394943364   with a total   population   of as of 2023,   '3 hundred and '30 '4 million.  

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Paul, could you real quickly,   just in in your head or   give us a let's add those up over a hundred to a 50. How many millions as they got there? Six,  

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ten   Sixteen.   Fourteen,   eighteen,   20 two,   27.   Oh. 28%   of the population. Yeah. About 28,000,000.  

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20 nine million. Almost 10% of the population according to a check sent out by Social Security are over a hundred.   Yeah. Okay. Well,   good luck, Elon.   That's a target rich environment, buddy.  

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Oh, that's fine. I found out my deceased mother-in-law   was applying for loans back in the East Coast. She's only been dead since 02/2005.  

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Hey. You know what? You know what? You know what? I'll betcha. I'll betcha   that every single one of these are registered   voters.  

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Alright.   Now   what are the chances they're all in Chicago?  

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I don't know.  

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I don't know. Or maybe Twilight is real, and there are a lot of vampires collecting Social Security. Boy, it's a it's a rotten deal they've, let go on all these years, and I can see why they're apoplectic.   And,   it just let them go crazy. Go crazy, boys.  

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Just just like the medically speaking,   if each one of these numbers represents   between 1 and $2,000,   and you know that some of them are getting a bolt Probably more than that. Than that. Mhmm.   Okay.   What kind of numbers are we talking Well, that's the being  

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spent Well  

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on 394,000,000  

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of checks. That's why I told you to get that number. If you get an estimate and multiply it times what we think might be an average of the average check, see how much of that is.  

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Yeah. Even if we did 1,500,  

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that's I didn't think that Social Security went over 2,200,   but they do evidently go up to 4,000. I did not know that,   because one of the guys down here gets about $2,800   a month.   So, they took a   and what we found out is, my little pittance of a check, which I'm more than happy to have. K?   I'm not dis in Social Security.   I it's been good to me. K?   Because I hadn't had to sell gold for a number of years now to live, and that's a big deal to me. That is a big deal. And,   it was as my as my friend, David Strait, not the corrupt charlatan David Strait, David Lester   Strait,   told me, he said, Roger, apply for your money, and that's true. K? And that was what finally,   because I wasn't even gonna apply for it.  

Jack,   our buddy Jack down here, he gets his first month here starting in March about turn 62, and   he got that set up. He's been dealing with it for a few months. If you're about to hit that age, by the way,   do this stuff ahead of time. K?   They always screw you out of the first month because of so much counting technique they got.   But, I I wrote Jack yesterday. I said, Jack, do you think Elon's gonna steal your first Social Security check?   So,   anyway, it would be an interesting figure to get those, couple of million   times. So what do you think? Now a lot of those with that kind of age, they didn't have   a a lot of contribution.  

Okay?   In other words, there was a woman I can't remember her name. It was the first woman that ever signed up for Social Security.   By the way,   Social Security was, turned down by the Congress, is my understanding,   was turned down by the Congress. Roosevelt lost that,   battle, and he had to, get it, instituted through treaty.   So I don't know anything more about it than just what I told you, k, just now. And that came from John.   So,   that's how it got in. They couldn't get it passed. They got it in through treaty.   And the those early people that signed up for it after it got passed, well, they never contributed anything.  

But they got to live the rest of their lives off of it. You know? And then at some point in the sixties,   there evidently   was initially   some sort of a trust fund.   And in the sixties, Lyndon Johnson,   boy, who turns out by the day to be a bigger,   badder   piece of crap, doesn't he?   We're about to find out he's pretty much responsible for the JFK assassination.   But he, because of Vietnam,   took the money out of the so if you've got a contribution, it didn't go to this fund that it used to go to, and now goes to the general fund with the congress.   So it's all intermingled with the general fund, and that was,   LPJ   that did that. Well, they were spending the Social Security so called trust fund right off the bat. There was never any money in that trust fund. Yeah. Right. Well, they had to they had to give it to people, that signed up that were eligible even though they'd never contributed.  

I have a question. So oh, somebody has a question?  

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Yeah. Yeah. I have a I have a question. Oh, Paul.   Do you think it might have been by design that it failed initially and it had to be approved by treaty because it is really a global thing? Maybe it was always intended to be a global thing. Don't know, Paul. It's like,  

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I just don't know. K?   I I I think that Roosevelt is really important to their scheme,   obviously, because as Brent as Brent has taught us you know what,   you know what Satan means,   John? The actual definition?   No.   Distributor of wealth.   K? So that was one of the big deals. You know, that was the big deal as we found out from the information we learned from the word Corban,   and and again Brent's   Bible and some of the notes he wrote at the bottom.   And, Corban was a way to   fund the social system in the days of Jesus.   So they had Social Security   back then. K? We've never heard that before. But if you go and go into the research on this word Corban, you'll find out that's exactly what it was. They were seizing   valuables   from people's homes because they had saved in their old age. They lived with their children so that their children could sell their assets and help provide for them and help, keep them in their old age. Well, the Pharisees were getting I know. Hard to believe. They corrupted the youth, and they got the youth probably 10% spiff on whatever they got. They got the youth to turn in whatever valuables were in the house to the Pharisees, and then they would declare it core band, and basically come pull self help remedies.  

They'd come levy garnish and seize it.   Actually, they just come seize it. Okay? And then they take it back to the temple and they'd sell it and the proceeds went to   fund the social system of the day.   And   if you converted to Christianity,   you got kicked out of the social system.   So this is nothing new.   And you'll notice that they got insisted on getting this in fairly quickly   in their agenda. I don't believe they got it through, however they did it,   Paul, until the late thirties, I thought. And by then, Roosevelt had stacked the deck, so it may have been earlier than that. They'd stacked the Supreme Court from six to nine.   So I don't know. But but that's kind of a thumbnail history   of Social Security   and how we got it. And   I know a lot of complaints about it, but here's another one of these, Patriot Mythology deals, of course.  

Sure. All of you have heard David Strait's   still out there crowing this stuff that you gotta get rid of your Social Security number.   Well, in the nineties, they passed a treaty called a GATT treaty, g a t t. It's one of these trade   general something and trade   but the nucleus of the new world order scheme   is that trade.   And these treaties, which Trump has negated,   but,   oh, lord. I forgot where I was going.  

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It happens a lot at our age.  

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I know it does, man. I hate it. Anyways, very interesting to go go back on the history. This is what I was gonna say. A lot of our patriot people   still think that that has a big significance.   Okay? Don't they?   Now at that treaty in the nineties, what they part of that was they started assigning you a Social Security number at birth. K?   Before that, you waited until you were gonna   be working.   So you got your   job. That's how I got roped into it. Sure. And the employer said, well, I need you need a Social Security number to work so you go get one. I was 16.   My dad went and got it for me so he could get me a job at the officers club   in the clipper room. John, you know what the clipper room is?  

Marijuana hits your memory.  

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Marijuana will will hit your memory.  

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Very slow. If I could reach out, I'd reach out and slap your ass right now. K? Shut up.   I used to work in a clipper room.   You don't know what the clipper room is. That's where you wash all the dishes.   And so, with the plates that come in with food left on them, and me and my buddy have food fights and all kinds of crap. My point being this,   do you think our enemies are gonna wait till you're 16 or 17 or 18 years old to entrap you in their system?   No. No. Of course not.   It's from birth.   Okay? But our no. It's a social security number. You don't want one of those.   I'm telling you, our our the Patriot   and I understand it's because these guys are clever. But some of the crap that floats around, we had to deal with it Saturday at the end of the show with this trust   crap thing for about fifteen minutes,   which we'll get into at some point today too. K?  

But, anyway, it's all these things and that Social Security,   the gold French flag, the all cap letters.   John, did you know that the seventh circuit in Chicago   wrote a memo to all these states and the courts that feed to it and say, don't bring us paperwork with all cap letters?  

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No. They didn't. They did.  

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They said, just tell it's extemporaneous. It takes up too much time and effort. Don't do it. Well, that sure sounds like a nexus to me, doesn't it? Do you? Yeah.   But our people just continue.   No. No. It's there. It's there. I know it's there. I I can't see it. I don't know about it. I can't find any reference, but it's there. It's there. I I'm I'm amazed, quite frankly.   Okay? I I give you the whole picture. There's not a hole in it that I can find.  

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Well, there was a situation other crap that that can't folks can't get out of their mind. There was a there were,   one of the guys that was started with a, traffic ticket,   back in Ohio. He was visiting,   and the cops wouldn't recognize his driver's license from Virginia.   Started on a court case battling these guys back,   and,   this is back, I think, in the seventies   or or in   yeah. Late seventies, early eighties.   He ended up going all the way to the,   Supreme Court in Washington, DC. And,   he actually had a case where he was proving that the,   all caps, name was a corporation.  

Because when you when you look at the definition of a person,   they, of course, they list companies being being a person as well in terms of most people's understanding.   So,   he went through the law libraries,   all over the country, and there were only two books that he found.   One was in a in a a library back in, the East Coast, and the other one they found in Texas.   And there was a discussion there that the all caps was a fiction, and it was   equal to a corporation.   So he actually won a case on that,   but I don't have those published cases.   It's that was so long ago that that it just isn't important, really. Although I did use   that I did use that in my in my affidavit to the police officer.  



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Okay. Well, the question comes down to this.   Is my name in all caps, Does that allow that guy over there to make a man made law and attach it on me?  

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Well, of course not.  

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That's not the question. Well, that's the question. If it doesn't, then,   okay, it might be interesting for you to discuss and speculate on, but there's no nexus here. See, I wanna concentrate on things that are. When I bring out things and teach them to this audience, I always show you where to go and   and find it, don't I?   Here. You go look at it. I don't want you to believe me. I want you to go to the source. Look at it. Make it yours. It's not when a guy on the radio tells you, it's not yours.   When you go look at it with your own eyes, it's yours.   And that's what I try and do with all of our stuff here.  

But with this thing like, this trust thing, I I think I asked Sketch first question.   Well, can you prove it?   Because, you know, the reason I've never looked into it and Sketch also brought up that I tell y'all if the only dumb question is the one that didn't ask. Okay? But I consider this Cave Est a trust thing about, like, asking you, John, what do you know about unicorns on the dark side of the moon?   They're pretty Can we discuss it, please?   Russia.  

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Yes.   It's it's by presumption and it's by,   bait and switch.   When someone is born,   they create an entity   taking the name of the born,   representing it in all capital letters, and they create   a corporate entity that they create, they control, and they benefit from.   Now when   you sign something later in life, you ask you're asked, are you a citizen of The United States? Are you are a resident?   Your name is represented on that form in all capital letters. So when you sign as an authorized representative,   you are voluntarily   agreeing   to be   responsible   for  

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that fictional entity. Paul, where are your bylaws? Where are your bylaws, please? Can you bring them to us and read us a little bit of them?   It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. Oh, you're a corporation, but you don't have bylaws?  

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And it doesn't matter? I'm not no. I'm not a corporation.   Well, no. That's what you say. They have I'm not a corporation,   but they have created an entity that they have jurisdiction   over in commerce. And then they ask me,   am I the responsible party for that name?  

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And then they proceed on presumption from that point forward. I totally disagree with that. K? You're born into the situation. Your parents were serfs. You're born into the same condition. It doesn't have anything to do with capital letters.   You're not a corporation.   You're a slave. They've got a property right in you. And they're using that birth certificate, however it's constructed,   as a warehouse receipt underneath the birth certificate, which gives you the information of your birth supposedly.  

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Whether the cap whether the whether the name is capitalized or not, it doesn't matter. They could call it Elmer Fudd Inc.   And then they could put a form in front of you and say, are you the authorized representative for Elmer Fudd Inc? And as long as you sign that, you're agreeing to be responsible for that. Think what you're doing is you're taking Patriot crap and making it more complicated than it is. No. It's my problem. So  

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Raj, you even when you look at the,   Secretary of State,   statement on travel,   you know, they have   the section one there, it's 101 or whatever it is,   it owes permanent allegiance to a smallest state. You you see, you're looking at that capitalization   factor right there.   It's kind of embedded in the system, the way they operate.   In fact, I put that in mine,   and that it it's an my that my name in caps is a fiction.  

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Well, listen. If you wanna believe that stuff, it's fine. Okay? All I care about is separating the nexus with the federal government,  

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and we do it, and it works. And it doesn't say one damn thing about capital letters. But you bring it up in your discussions. I mean, when you did your presentations, you you bring up make a point. It's the smallest state as opposed to the ones where they they list the capital s. Okay. And those those are federal. The others are the states. That's the way they designate and differentiate between them. Well, that's that's correct. But the federals all these things are fiction anyway. So anyway, I I it was two sentences in my thing, and I just left, you know, and went on from there.   I didn't make a big deal out of it. What I did do is create the fact that in California, because of the California Supreme Court Sava case,   they clearly state that we're not a crime and they can only stop and arrest us for a crime.  

So the officer commits a misdemeanor in the process,   and,   you know, it's up to them. And I just   told her that   I made the case that she committed a crime and not me. And   that if she would see that the ticket went away, then, all of my claims would go away.   But I told her she's gonna have to pay for my increase in auto insurance, and and she's gonna have to pay the fine and everything else if she doesn't clear it up.  

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Yeah. When they pull you over, you're technically under  

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arrest. No. No.   You you are, and then that's very clear in California code. Yep. Yep.   So,   I didn't send it, you know, because we've talked about this before. You send it into the court. No. I didn't do that.   I I sent it to the officer, and I included it, and I didn't put it in the affidavit.   I included that list of court cases,   that I use, you know, in my classes that show   who is a   a citizen and who isn't.   And   it points to the fact that   what they're doing,   it's all wrong.   And then I included my affidavit   that went to the federal secretary of state.   I had not sent my notices into the attorney general just because I got busy with other things, and I'm gonna do that in a hurry anyway. So,   you know, I I   the officers don't normally get this kind of a letter,   so all that information   is gonna be the talk of the office when she gets it.  

So that's a way of educating these officers as to what they're really doing.  

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Paul, did you have something on some traffic situation you wanted to bring up? One other thing I've learned something too,  

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that when you get in there, what I'm finding is just they want you to   either say not guilty or guilty. They don't want you to say anything else. Yeah. And they get mad at you if you don't. Yeah. Right. I found out through Kirk, remember Kirk, the guy we came over here and talked to, he was part of Margie and Jack's thing. Oh, very good.   He   found out   because a judge wrote him back   and said that you should demure.  

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Yeah.  

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And they don't told the They don't wanna give you that option. Right. That's all right way law stuff is demure. That's what they taught to demure everything.   And this For the audience who may not know what that means, it's don't answer yes or no sidestep it.  

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Yeah. Well, it says it says essentially that,   even if the complaint is true,   there are other mitigating circumstances which you need to explore.   See, it it's a it's a legal way, and   it's quite quite a nice write up by this, court officer,   as to what you should do, but they never tell you that. And they'd and they get absolutely bent out of shape if you don't just go ahead and say, well, not guilty or guilty because that gets them in the court. That that that puts you in that situation. So I'm gonna be reporting.  

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They know what to do on either one of those answers. So you bring the demeanor, they don't know what the hell to do. Yeah. So I'm gonna I'm gonna be doing that when I when this thing finally comes.   Alright. But, first of all, let me see. Ferris, you had something that you interrupted a minute ago, and I we were right in the middle of a thought. Would you like to come back and repeat that, please?  

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I believe his line has been muted. He was just throwing a verbal dirt about marijuana use or whatever. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Same as he and Cheryl are doing any after show on Saturday.   Yeah. Any anonymous  

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lines have been muted. Alright. Well, it sure seems to have affected mine, Farris, for sure. Right. Right. And I do all this stuff with no notes right off the top of my head, buddy. Yes.  

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Is that sketch? He he he he's just a little confused. He thinks this is a support group   for people who got kicked out of MENSA.   So   he's an ex   MEMS member, and he keeps getting confused that he thinks this is a support group.  

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Poor guy. Yeah. I know. Occasionally, he brings us something that fits in and dovetails with what we do, and, otherwise, there's   something off in left field   wherever.   Paul, did you have something about a traffic situation you mentioned earlier you want to bring up?  

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No.   No. No? No. But I do wanna mention It was just me. Anybody   if there's anybody that's anonymous   that has something,   valuable to contribute,   please dial 941   and put your hand up,   and we'll unmute your line. Otherwise, all anonymous callers will remain muted from this day on.  

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Okay. Well, I guess that sounds like a new rule. We're about like Trump. Are you you're not Elon Junior, are you?  

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No. No. It's just I had the,   I had the,   the displeasure   of going into the after show archive   and editing   out   Roger bashing that was going on between Cheryl and Ferris   before I could upload the archive. And it really pisses me off when people's loose lips cause me more work. Yeah. So we're just not letting that happen anyway. Which one was bashing me? Ferris or or,  

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Charlotte,   the girl down in Florida?  

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Cheryl. Cheryl. She is saying she doesn't come on to the show anymore because you jump on her case. Well, she always brings total bullshit is why. Well, what she fails to what she fails to remember is that,   when before   she   was bringing bullshit to the to the show, and then she was arguing with you and telling you what you that you don't know what you're talking about on your own program. Right. And that's why you jumped her case. Well, I think she needs to go start paying attention to Antebon rights.   And That's right.  

Ferris, he comes in here just purely to to   disrupt.   So Ferris always comes in as anonymous, and I apologize to all the other anonymous callers that you've been you have been painted with the same brush because we just don't know where that disruption is. So we're just we're not gonna allow these problems. But in the essence of Cheryl, it's all this old patriot mythology that she's stuffed in her brain her whole life, and you just can't pull that crap out of people.   I'm sure she has 20 Clydesdales  

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of 20 mule team borax,   and you couldn't pull that crap out of their minds.  

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I I am sure that Cheryl   has valuable information. But as with anybody that's been in this for twenty years, they have been   exposed to so much information,   and it's been parroted by so many different people.   It appears   on in every case to be   fact.   Yeah. And   there's been a lot of confusion   in this,   and   you just   you just can't  

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really Hey. Look. Stand on one point. I I don't charge anybody for this information. I never tell you to do it. K? It's absolutely free. You take it for what it's worth. If you don't think it's valuable, then don't do it. Go follow somebody else. I let me tell you. Cheryl or anybody else, I don't give a crap.   Yeah. Oh, sure. I'd like to have you on there. That's why I spend my time trying to find the people that react to this information.   But if you wanna play that   that that game, then go go go follow somebody else. I don't care.  

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Right. Well, with respect to Ferris,   when he comes in here, he does come in with with something that's anecdotal that may or may not have value   to the the conversation.   However,   more often than not,   there is a gotcha   at the end. He comes in with something anecdotal to get you to listen to him, and then he zings you in the end. It's pure narcissism,  

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power.   Yeah. That that's good. Okay? But out of all the months, that's the only positive thing that pertains to what we do that I can remember him bringing to us.   Yeah. So, yes, it is a distraction.  

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K? Right. Right. We've already spent way too much time on this program even talking about them. So let's Well, I'm  

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go. Here we are doing it again. Just like all this patriot mythology crap. Yes, Boris.  

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Yeah. Hi, brother. Yes. And, you know, he just been   a this guy. Can you hear me, brother?  

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Yeah. I hear you fine.  

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Okay. Yeah. First, just being disrespectful   to people around here. He's been talking   very much to everybody in here, you know.   And and  

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I think that he should get out of here and go and talk with somebody else because it's too much already. How many times he tell him that he he can be doing that? You know? I don't know. You know? I I don't I just don't know, Boris. I try and get on here and do the best I can. I'm here for a mission. I'm here to try and help people get free if they want to. I'm trying to give them correct answers if they're looking for real answers because our stuff's real. Okay? It works. And I can tell you, I I was studied under John for a number of years,   and I never once ever heard this trust mentioned. And if anybody would have nailed it, it would have been him with his research into old English law. The only time I've ever heard this thing mentioned is from Anna Von Rice.  

By the way, sketch, did you know Anna has a direct line with the pope Bergoglio over there?  

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Well, that's interesting.  

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She says she's got a direct line to the pope. Do you know that she communicates with the mothership?  

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I don't I don't know if she has a direct line or is it No. I don't either. Writes or is it Rietzinger?  

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And wouldn't that be related? These are things that I have heard attributed to Anavon Wright's. Okay? And that's all I know. Alright? And I I just, neither one of those things impress me too much. The mother ship or connections with with a, the first Jesuit pope in the history of the Catholic church. Well, the the Chester Cay Trust is is and as a latecomer to that,  

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there is a trust document back in the fourteen hundreds or something that's titled that.  

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Yeah. But you know what? Excuse me.   I mean, what we found out in this discussion because Mark was involved Saturday, John.   Mhmm. And he went and looked it up.   And it's not a trust.   It's a type of trust. Yes. And all it does is tell you how the trust works. So it's another type of trust like a common law trust or any of the other hundred plus that are out there. It's not a trust.   From what we could defend,   find out on Saturday when we were, getting aggravated at all this. Yeah. So okay. So it's a type of trust. It's not a trust.   Anybody in the audience, have you ever seen any proof of a trust   title this   in anything you've ever read or studied?  

Not somebody saying it was, but actual proof to a document which shows you it exists. Has anybody ever experienced that?   Please. I we got I don't know how many people in the audience today, but somebody must have if this is real, somebody must have stumbled on it.   Anybody? Hey,  

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Roger. I got something.  

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Okay. Give us the source, Danny, please.  

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Black's Law Fourth.   Yeah. Sysk Trust, the person for whose benefit  

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a trust is created or who is That's what I just said. It's not it's telling you about a type of trust and how it operates. It's not identifying a trust.  

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Well, right. Not a type of trust. It's the beneficiary of a trust.  

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But it's telling you how the trust operates. Well, out most how other trust operate.   See, here's what I think is happening here. I think somebody looking for answers   is thumbing through Black's Law Dictionary,   and they see that right there, and they read it, and they hold it. That connects to this over here. That's gotta be really important. And now it's history, and it's gospel,   and everybody follows it and thinks it's real when it's nothing but a type of trust.  

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Roger?  

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Yes.  

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Yeah. I I think it's a mistake to call it that, but it it just means he who lives.   And, of course,   all the citizens are civilly dead.   So and it's tied to HR one ninety two probably if it's tied to anything   and the gold standard going away and the fourteenth amendment citizen.  

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Can you find any evidence of that anywhere?   Or is that just more speculation?   It's probably   this.   I don't wanna see probably. I wanna see definitely.  

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Yeah. Well, I would call it I've never seen it. Everybody's calling it until we really know what they're calling it currently. Anyway, I also wanted to say something quickly about,   weapons of choice.   You know somebody who had a lot of experience with Harvey and he said it was his 12 gauge.  

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Yeah. In Vietnam, that's his favorite weapon.   Sawed off sawed off barrel was number three shot.   Yep.   K.   And if you've never looked at a shotgun shell with some of that low low numbered shot size in there,   I want you to look at one of those sometime and imagine all of them coming at you. Well, each one of those is the size of a nine millimeter   round. Yeah.   So,   so yeah. So, listen. All I know is I never even heard of this thing until Antebon Wright brought it out. And I think let me draw a parallel.   Some of the early guys are looking at the constitution and they say, oh, we got courts for admiralty law.   Not realizing that we had to have a navy.  

Okay?   And that that involves admiralty. And now everything's under admiralty law because they don't understand what's going on even though it's right in front of your face. Honestly,   self help remedies tell you exactly what the hell system you're dealing with. But from now on, we're under admiralty law, and you still hear people saying that, including David Strait, who's charging people money to get for for him to feed them that crap.  

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Hey, Roger. Roger?   Yes. This is Dan from, Longmeadow. Didn't wasn't there a judge in Montana   that said,   that   said   every taxpayer is a Susticay trust? He didn't say Susticay vie. He just said Susticay trust. I I I'm only going from memory. I can't prove that. I I just Well, because If I find you all that payer  

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alright. Well, the taxes we know because of the grace report. Dan, have you heard us talk about the grace report before?  

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Absolutely. Yep.  

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Okay. Well, Peter Grace and his commission studied how to downsize government.   His statement was not 1p   of your income tax goes to the day to day running of the federal government. He didn't say it went to the Cavevesta   Trust.   Where where else could it go? Anymore.   It goes to the bond holders. They sell bond auctions.   Bond is the root word of bondage.   It doesn't have anything to do with the trust,   to my knowledge. K?   And they take that agree with you. They take that in that money that they tell collect from income tax, and they go pay the bondholders the outstanding payments that are due. And if there's any left,   then they turn it over to the treasury.  

Okay? So in a sense, in a backhanded way, it can fund the day to day running of the federal government if all the debts are paid, which they always had been   until 2023.   And 2023   is the very first year in the history of the Federal Reserve System   when there was no payment to the Treasury. Did you know that?  

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Nope.   Yep.  

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Why? Because so many people evidently got disgusted because of COVID that they stopped filing 30% or more.  

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That's so cool.   Okay.  

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The Americans have to go. I mean, where where could this trust, this mysterious   mythical trust   be placed?   We can trace everything.   It all fits. We've never had any disagreement from the highest sources in the land where we've submitted our affidavits. I don't think one of them is ever, but by my knowledge, put this trust in there.   So,   you know, if if you need more than we offer, you you need to go study that stuff somewhere else. Because I try and bring you facts that I can prove, not bullshit   that gets people upset that you can argue about for thirty minutes.  

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Yeah. The whole trust   act and all that stuff is is   is not something that matters   in today's day and age. Trust is trust. If they're using it's Social Security Trust Administration as a trust, big deal.   And we call it whether they name it.  

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Yeah. Well, it may be a name, but it's dumped into the general fund. Like I was explaining earlier, that happened with Lyndon b Johnson. Go go confirm it.  

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Hey, Raj. You know where a lot of this came came was from RBN,   because I was listening to them   a long, long time ago. Well, I I had heard of you. And then,   you know, this this these these kind of discussions,   actually, there is some information from the congress that says that, you know, a US citizen is civilly dead.   I had copies of that. But once you brought up the situation of the way the birth certificate   was created   and and the effect that,   what they were doing,  

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once you've exposed all of that with John's work and stuff No. No. No. No. No. No. I will have because there are a lot of people that don't know this story. That wasn't John's work. That was Brian Howard's work. Oh, that's right. That's right. And Brian Howard had two daughters that were born in the same hospital. And you can go back to the start,   the first month and the first probably   week of the archives on Castbox.   It's a Friday show. I think it's the fifth of the seventh.   It's Brent was on. We had Brian Howard come on, and he told both of his great stories. One about the nonresident driver's ish,   license issue up in Idaho, where we had to go to the head guy in Idaho and go through all the crap he threw at us to get an answer.  

And then the other one was he went to the hospital where his two daughters were born and started asking questions about the birth certificate, and he got the answer straight from the people that do it in the basement. And when the woman came back, he went up and told her. He said, this one I'm trying to do is build a folder for my daughter to share all this important,   early information. So in case they lead it need it later in life, they can access it easily. Good cover story.   So he tells the lady up on the Third Floor all this, and she got aggravated after a while, couldn't answer his questions, and sent him down to the basement. Damn, this is for you and the newer people.   Okay? So he goes down to the basement and he goes up where they do all this.  

And he goes up to the counter and he tells the lady same cover story, folder, daughters, papers,   and and what he's trying to get it at the birth certificate   and she goes,   wait a minute.   And she goes away for about ten minutes.   And when she came back, the first words out of her mouth were,   you're you're not gonna hold anything I tell you against us, are you?   Ain't that interesting?   So what happens is when the baby is born,   there is a piece of paper called a verification.   This is straight from the hospital, people.   This is not patriot mythology.  

Okay?   When the baby is born,   there's a document   that is filled out called the verification   of   facts, VOF.   Height, weight, eye color,   maybe a little footprint, little hand print, whatever.   And at the bottom, there's places for the mother and the father to sign. It's never signed.   Why not?   Because the parents are already in voluntary servitude.   They more than likely have not exited that. So when the child is born, it's automatically born under the condition. That's why the parents never sign it.   Oh my god. Then they take then they take that document, the v o f The funeral. And they take it over   they take it over to the,   a terminal which is placed in every birthing hospital or every hospital in the country   by who?  

Oh, by the federal government.   It has a very rudimentary, like, a DOS type,   operating system on it. It doesn't even have windows. It's like like a recruit,   where, like, they type in letters and everything in capital.   So they type all that information   into that computer   from the VOF.   At that point, it's sent to the Bureau of Vital Statistics   where the birth certificate is printed.   And when it's printed,   it's put in an armed   bank safe   a bank safe with armed guards   twenty four hours a day, seven days a week. Why would they do that, Dan?  

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They would do that because that's the security instrument and that's their goals.  

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Because it has value. You don't put value things of value   out on the table. You put them in a safe. Right?  

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Right. Right. It acts like gold to me.  

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Well, yeah. Because it's all your future labor they can now collateralize and attach to the bond issues.   Where is there room for some trust to be in here? Just somebody, please speculate. Tell me where in this operation   is there room for trust?  

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Not that I see.  

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We're not a we're not England surrogate. We're not Canada.   By the way, how'd you like that hockey game?   You know? The I went to a fight and a hockey game broke out.   We're not still surrogates to them over there. Okay?   Right.   So that that Right. I I yes.  

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Back to what I was saying is is, you know, in RVN, there were kind of all the different kinds of people papers. Still are. Yeah. And and so what happened is is then you got,   Peter Nees came about. Joyce Rosenblum came about. Those are good. The both those are very good. And Ron McDonald, you know, started working over there. And then you got with Bennett, and then you started exposing everything you knew. And that's why it resonated with me because as soon as I got the right story from you,   all of that other stuff was you could ignore it because it didn't matter whether it was right or wrong. It didn't have any real effect on on what we do. Well, hell, I I keep trying to teach people that, but I have a real hard time evidently.   Well, anyway,   we have the number, and you still have a lot of this stuff going on with all these different guys. But they're really dealing mostly with stuff like this. The Chester KV trust doesn't really come up much anymore.  

They really look at that as this does well, it does around here.   They look at this as some kind of a private,   fund that was created based upon your value that they can access because of the bankruptcy, because of the trustee. You're supposed to in other words, you're supposed to sign whatever bills you get because the trustee has to pay the bills because   you're under the situation.   So that's what they're all trying to do. Alright. Well, listen. If you wanna go  

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research this trust,   I'm gonna tell you one place you ought to start.   You ought to start and look at the International Monetary Fund and what backs it.   Because if it plays a part in any of this,   that's where it is.  

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But, Raj, the thing is is that for for for modern people like us in The United States,  

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we don't need to get into that crap. Well, I no. Well, evidently, we do because it keeps getting brought up, John. Because that's people want free money.  

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They think they can get free money out of it. Well, of course. Yeah.  

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Okay. Well, the about the best free money you're gonna get is a revocation of election from the IRS if you qualify.   Paul, would you like to tell Chicago HAVWA?  

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Oh, absolutely. One zero six point nine WBOU   FM Chicago. Thank you for joining us for this first hour.   Find out more information about the revocation of election and how you can get a little bit of money back from the IRS. Come   on back. Go to the matrixdogs.com   and click on either the eurofolkradio.com   link, the globalvoiceradio.com   link, or,   you can actually   no. Globalvoiceradio.net.   Or just reach out to strawman@markallcaps.com  

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and say, what's this all about? Is he okay? Is he's got sick or something? He's  

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back. He's back. Yeah. He's better.   Roger. Okay. Well, John, can you stick around for a bit, or you gotta take off? No. I gotta,  

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prepare for a meeting with my doctor that's coming up on Tuesday, and I gotta get some paperwork in and things for him to look at. Okay. Well I always have a busy day on Mondays. Okay. Now somebody was trying to say something before John takes off here. I just wanna tell. Yesterday, as I was looking for things to watch, you know,  

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I have slept almost twelve hours Saturday.   Oh,   wonderful.   So I get up, and I'm looking for something to watch, and I hadn't been over to the Chihuahua in a while. You know who the Chihuahua is, don't you, John?   No. I don't. That's Greg Hunter.   Oh, okay. Yeah. Alright. And so because he's always yipping like a chihuahua.  

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He is too.  

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And, it's very appropriate nickname.   And so I went over to the chihuahuas,   site over there, USAWatchdog.com.   And I hadn't been over there in a while, and there were some real good interviews over there. One of them was Larry Clayman.   That was last weekend. So I really, really good. Very good, Larry Clayman. I like listening to him. They've got a a this week's was Catherine Austin Fitz. That's very interesting   on what she's speculating is going on with this sovereign wealth fund they're floating. You may wanna hear about that, John.   And there's a a Dowd. There's one with Dowd a couple weeks ago who I really like. He was on Alex the other day, Edward Dowd out of Hawaii. Super   brand. He's good. Yeah. He's very good. Used to work for Goldman Sachs.  

This is what's   she is speculating   now.   And it because she believes Bitcoin's Ponzi scheme. Okay? And that's somewhat   verified because what's going on with Roger Ver, the Bitcoin Jesus, and the book he wrote Right. On the,   the sabotage of Bitcoin or whatever it is. And the fact that when it came out, it was used as a payment system. Well, they've hijacked that. They don't want anything dealing there. So they've moved it over where there's big players, and it appears they're just using it as a pump and dump scheme. K?   And so with them proposing this sovereign wealth fund on this or any of these other coins,   and she's saying, look. I don't have any proof about this, but I've been dealing with these people a long time, and this just reeks   of bankerism.  

Okay?   They're gonna get those coins put in the sovereign wealth fund   and go with that by the whole five or something like   I don't remember how many trillion dollars worth of The US   and that they're gonna go exchange the coins for all of the, landed property and real property,   and then the coins are gonna dump the bottom out of them. I probably can't explain it very well. You can go over to USAwatchdog.com   and listen to Catherine Austin Fitts go over it. It makes a lot it it really rings some bells with you. K?  

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Well, I I   it's clear she really doesn't understand   Bitcoin.   Well, could be, but I'm just telling you for what it's worth. K? Yeah. Well, it's all she's always interesting to listen to. Yeah. She's very authoritative.  

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And the other thing is I have heard other people say that what Fink and them are trying to do is see, the problem they've got right now is they've run out of collateral, and they've extended it, leavened   it as much as they can. And now they're looking for new collateral to back with the system they're trying to roll into and that they're gonna own because they say they own everything that they've stolen through fraudulent   acquisitions, no doubt, is they're gonna say, well, I like that tree over there. It's mine. What I'm gonna do is securitize it and issue shares in   it. So they're gonna go back to real things and start building an economy with that as collateral.  

So I'm just telling you what's evidently going on and being talked about out there. K? Yeah. Yeah. I know. I know.   So, John, if you gotta go, we, thanks for being with us, and, we always appreciate you having you here on Monday whether we talk about the one or not.  

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Yeah. I'm glad to be here too. Alright. Keep it posted.  

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Well, go go get them with your doc and hope all your prognosis  

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are good. Okay? I'll keep you posted.   Alright.   Alright.   Anyway,   Paul, I still need that that file when you got a chance. I know you're busy.  

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January 27 archive. Yep.  

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Okay. Got it. Okay. I'll talk to you guys later. Alright. I'll be monitoring. See you later. Okay. Well, I listen. Before you leave,   if you if you guys schedule me over there on your Sunday deal, I won't stand you up. Okay? I believe it. Yeah. I know. I I go I'll do I'll do that. Alright. We've got some disruption right now. The guy that was normally going out and doing this, his mother died.   Uh-oh.   He's in a battle with his sister over the control of the house,   and his sister is evicting him.   So now this guy has to go find some place to live.   So he's not gonna be, too active, but, we can still make it happen. Well, hopefully, exactly   she's in control of the estate now, until mom died. Oh. That's the same thing that happened to me. I because I I put everything in a a living trust for my mother-in-law, but I didn't put me in as trustee because I knew I was gonna fight with the Internal Revenue Service. Yeah. So, anyway, it just went against me and the other people control the property. So And they go, oh, well, sorry, John. You bailed out.  

Well, it was my own Swear, Tay. Swear Tay. It was my own plan, man. I mean, my own plan  

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screwed me. Well then well then you got no room to complain. Oh, I don't. I I I absolutely  

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don't.  

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Okay, man. Well, the best, what is it? The best plan lays of mice and men often go astray, something like that? That's exactly correct. Okay. It's certainly what happened.   I'll see you, John. Okay. Bye. Alright. Ciao. Now who, who had somebody that would say something? There are two or three right there, Danny and somebody else. Danny, let me get this other guy, the faint one. He was there first. Yes, sir?   Oh, was that me? Samuel, I just wanted to ask you if you you got my Walter Burien video and if you've seen it. Well, I got I got it. I hadn't watched it. I'm very familiar with Burien. I used to hear him all the time.   Yeah.  



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I think it's appropriate for the times, all this money that we,  

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our government says it doesn't have when he's saying it's just the opposite, and we should probably have no taxation. We should probably get a dividend check, you know? I I wonder if mister Burien is, deceased or something. I haven't heard from him in a number of years. That was about maybe what? Fifteen years ago, twenty years ago. A guy named Walter Burien.   I don't remember exactly how he stumbled into this, but some of you have never probably never heard of this before. Dan, you're new. Have you heard of the comprehensive financial   something reports, court reports?  



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It's called a CAFR.   Consolidated   annual financial statement. Yeah. There you go. Governments submit a budget   saying,   you know, they're short and they need to increase taxes. What they never give you is the consolidated   financial statement that shows where all the assets are at.   And it takes a special guy that knows how to go into these organizations.   Every single agency   Institute. Districts, all of them have a separate slush fund Yep.   That is,  

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that they they use for all of these nefarious projects. Yep. And they don't need to collect taxes. It hasn't been much of it hasn't been brought up in a number of years. So probably if you're new to this, you haven't heard about this, but it's called a CAFR,   a Kafir.   And the guy that kind of brought this to the world was Walter Burien.   And every gover I guess every incorporated   government entity has one. Including courts.   States,   whatever. And, it's a second set of books. For instance, when they build a float a bond issue and build a toll bridge or a toll road, Why don't they ever take the tolls off? Does it ever get paid for?   Well, no.  

They move it over to the second set of books, and they continue the income coming into the caper account.  

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Yeah. And the Roger. And the weird address, the address is Hold on, John. Hold on.  

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Let John finish. Go ahead. Ccafrcafr1.com.   Go and just go over there and listen to it. Okay. C a f r one dot com. Yes, Samuel?  

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Yeah. That that video was done in   February.   And at that time,   Walter put the assets of The United States   at $60,000,000,000,000   and only one third of that was federal. The rest was all our local states and counties and cities. Yeah.  

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Yeah. So anyway, if you want to go look into that, that's where to resource it. It's, kinda mind boggling, and   nobody brings it up.  

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Who you calling the Kappa?  

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Hey, Capa boy. What you doing this morning?  

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I'm doing.   Just listening.  

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Good. Well, we're always glad to have you aboard, old friend.   So, there the other person that was trying to say something Yeah. Robert.   Yeah. It was Danny. Danny. Yeah.  

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Okay.   Not to aggravate you too much, but Oh, please don't. It's Monday.   Something I came across this just this past weekend   under definition of charge in Blacksforth.   1 part of it is to impose a tax duty or trust.   And I remember years ago reading in some case   where they were discussing the trust that was created,   like for a criminal thing, that they   kind of being charged as the trustee for   violating I guess the public trust.   Another thing that goes along these lines is the meaning of legal owner.   It says one recognized by law as the owner of something, especially one who holds legal title to property for the benefit of another.  

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And  

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it says trustee,  

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definition one.   So if you're designated as the legal owner of something, well, you're the trustee,   and you're supposed to take care of the business of the trust  

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before before Well, that's probably true because the grantor gives it away. You know, I remember Brent saying trust is a very unique because it's a one-sided contract.  

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Yeah.  

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K. And when you give it away and you've gotta give it away as the grantor or the settler, you've got to give it away and put it in there. Well,   it it it can't become the trust. It can hold property. I don't believe it can own property. The trustees got to have that,   capacity over it to be able to make the decisions. I would think I don't know the fine points of it. Please don't hold my feet to the fire.  

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Well, anyway,   you know,   the thing about charge, when you're charged with something, they just maybe create a trust   that you're being held responsible for   and brought to court with. So you're not actually   the thing under consideration, but you're the thing   you're the one responsible for it. Alright. Well, I I it's okay.  

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Well, these are things I don't know much about, to tell you the truth. So rather than try and speculate on it, I don't see any way it pertains necessarily to what we do. So we'll just put it out there as thanks for the information. Okay? Rod, do you know about person, the word person?   I know quite a bit about that. And you know how big a book that is. Right? Yes. Trust. Gaius' institutes,  

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the whole first part. Trust books are even bigger.  

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Yeah.   Yep.   See? So   I I mean, I really don't wanna own anything. So I I have no use for these and,   in my own personal life. So therefore, I've never put any time into it. I know about trust. I saw a bunch of charlatans   going around the country thirty years ago selling them   and hanging people with them and selling them for IRS vehicles and stuff, which they're not.   So I've never really delved into it too much.   But, of course, Mark is delving off into that now,   and our our good friend Brent Winters is that's his Brent Brent's specialty,   his trust.  

And he's got a module   of his in Winters, Winters Inn, I N N,   where they did a whole series on how to write your own trust. Because I agree with Brent. They're so nebulous,   and they're so easy for people to take advantage of people.   And I can give you an example of that in a second that   you you say, well, I wanna have you know, it's like one of our listeners. Can you point me to somebody to write me a trust?   Well,   Brent, maybe, because you can trust him, I think. Pretty sure.   Otherwise, in that, I don't know who you can trust out there in the trust field. Now, Mark, of of course. But,   but so the person that you pay and the our lawyers can charge you over $2,000.  

Our Patriot people are charging over $2,000   for these.   Okay? So how are you gonna know what they're right and is correct?   Unless you're familiar with trust law and how they're structured and how they operate and what they cover, how are you gonna know that money you're spending and putting some precious piece of property in that in that trust for yourself? How you gonna know that's correct and they're not gonna steal it from you somehow?   If you don't know that information, how do you do that?   Well, you can't.   So,   go take   Brent's trust course.  

Write your own. At least know what they're doing. So even if you contract Mark to write it for you and design it for you the way he's got the thing set up,   at least you'll know what the hell is going on and that you know it's it's correct.   Oh, now here's the example. The state has become the trust   state in the world evidently   because people are coming from all over the world to set up trust in South Dakota.   Over the last few years, South Dakota has changed their trust law. But the one thing they didn't change   was if a   if a grantor   changes a trustee,   they don't have to notify the trustee of the change.  

That was the loophole in South Dakota.   And the case came up with a guy and his wife   that had started, you know, worked their asses off to create some   really successful company.   And then   they got divorced.   He put her in the divorce as the trustee   and put the business or something or all their assets, bunch of assets in trust.   Then he found him a u an a a new a a new, newer model,   if you will.   And he went in behind her back   as the grantor   and switched out the new model   as the trustee.   And because the way the laws are structured in South Dakota,   they didn't have to move the fire.  

Hello? Was that something important?   Well, you weren't passing gas or something, were you?   Okay.   Anyway, that's, that's a a real life example. I read the story on a couple years ago up there.   So,   consequently, I I I've never well, I've mentioned them, say that's a good way to do things. I don't know too much about them.   Wouldn't know how to write one. I've never taken,   Brent's course and but we got two experts around.   Mark's becoming one. He's all over it. He's been studying them for a while.   But but there there's a free source. You can write your own. There's a free source. You can learn all about it. You can either contact Brent if you wanna work with Brent or you can contact Mark.   Okay? But there's sources there for you to learn about it.  

And   I said, as I don't need it   myself personally,   I'm not gonna spend any time chasing it. So if you guys just like you you wanna bring up some of these things like this trust thing. Go research it first   on your own. The the   and bring what you find, and then we'll kick it around rather. Let's get this up for discussion on this. Let's see. If you shoot a firework over the moon, does that mean you're a serf?   I mean, these kind of speculations.   K?   Alright. I'll get off my soapbox. Alright. There's mister Mark right there.   Hey, Mark.  



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Hey, Roger. Just dropped in to see what was going on and, I thought you dropped in to see what condition your condition was in.   I guess.   Excuse me.   Just to to correct make a correction,   I've actually been   creating and using trust   mostly just for friends and family   for, gosh,   well over ten years.   Maybe closer to fifteen years, but at least ten years.   So,   and a lot of that was just   I should you know, getting automobiles   out of our names   because it's just such a huge liability.   Yeah. And then same thing with personal property   and real estate, getting them out of our names and into its own trust.  

And, for those who may not have heard it, I work for a law firm   in Las Vegas. Excuse me just a second.  

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Well, he's not totally well yet.  

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I worked, well, I think I've got some medicine that's kinda giving me congestion or phlegm. You're in that cold weather envelope up there, aren't you? Your five days of this sub Yeah. You're in you   were getting ready to hit five days. We'll see.   Starting tonight through Tuesday morning,   we will be below freezing 32 degrees Fahrenheit. It will be below freezing   for four straight days and we won't break above freezing until Friday.  

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Can you say global solar minimum?  

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Yeah. Exactly.   Exactly. So,   but anyway on the on the trust, I've worked for a law firm in Las Vegas   that was personal injury   and we had a case come in that involved Yellow Cab Company.   And right off the bat,   everybody was telling me the most we can get out of this is 300,000.   I was like, well, how is that?   And they said, well, because each of the cabs   are in their own separate trust.   And and each of those trust   will only cover the tax to insurance wise   for 300,000.   If you go outside of that, then you're gonna have to turn to the taxi driver to try to collect, and they don't have money or asset.   Hey, Mark.  

So that's why I tell people   you want to put   your automobiles in their own separate trust.   And then also, if you own real estate, even if you're in the even if you have a mortgage on it,   you can put that over into a trust without,   triggering the due on sale clause.   So there's laws to protect you. If you're putting it into a family trust,   then it doesn't trigger the due on sale clause.  

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Everybody   wants liability. Yes. Hold on a second.   This is all about liability,  

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folks. Yes.  

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Now what's your question?  

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The trust that the vehicle would go into and same with rental property or   houses,   wouldn't that be considered   a a series LLC?  

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No. No. The the car just goes the automobiles just go into   a plain trust. I put one in a trust that's that's   by itself.   So each each automobile,   motorcycle, RV, anything that's registered with the state, anything   that I would potentially   be out in the public,   and potentially get sued. Even if I'm on my own land, if I've got a   friend or family member and we get into an accident on my side by side little four wheeler on my land, you know, they potentially could sue me. So   anything that I think   could create a a   liability,   I'm going to put it in its own separate trust.  

And then I don't wanna be holding thing anything in my name, then I become uncollectible. Even if they get a lawsuit against me, even if they win.   If I'm working a job, they probably garnish that and that'd be about it. I have some options at that point. If it's truly my fault, then I need to figure out a way to make them whole.   But now I'm in the driver's seat not them. And we got a lot of unscrupulous   people that will see you at the drop of the hat especially for people that are in business with the public.   They're really at risk. I mean, they they walk around with a bull's eye on their back and many of them don't realize it or don't think it'll ever happen to them until it does.  

But what was your other question about,   something else besides automobiles putting them into a trust? Was it like a business or rental houses?   Well, rental houses, yeah, you could put those into a trust.   But you gotta be careful because   you don't want the trust to be making money.   That money needs to flow through, like,   the LLC to you directly as a national so you don't create a tax liability.   So you wanna be very careful about putting anything that that   brings in an income. You want to be careful   whether you should or shouldn't put it into a trust.   Like a lot of people now now now keep in mind,   this   is old   processes   until we found Roger and his information about being a national.  

So a lot of people, they   even though they're not nationals, Rogers, I still get emails. People trying to   structure everything so they they don't have taxes.   And I'm like,   you really need to stop this because   you're complicating   everything. And and you may have been immersed   into the   whole tax fight and   and the freedom seekers and the patriots over the years.   But you gotta come to a point where you realize you don't have to bother yourself with all that mess.   You really don't.   So, Carl, on on the rental properties,   just need to have need to be careful about how it's structured so that the trust   is not getting the income,   but the national is getting the income. So it's not taxable.  



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Yeah.   Okay. Roger.   There's Larry. Yes.  

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Yeah. Question for Mark and a question from before,   when you're talking about birth certificates.   Have you ever found out over the years   where the birth certificates are stored? Like, is there an actual street address? And I think Julie brought it up the other day. Did she say something Water Street?   And if   there is a place where they're being stored,   is it just for the birth certificates in The United States   or is it for all the birth certificates around the world? That's my first question.   And a question for Mark   that I'll just ask this too and then you guys can answer.  

Regarding trusts,   when you fill out the paperwork for a private trust,   does that information   have to be stored somewhere? Like, do you have to record it at the courthouse   or maybe that's only a statutory trust that you do that with?   Or do you just take the paperwork and you make certified copies?   That way, if something's lost, you have several parties that have a copy of the trust. And do they just hold on to it if it's a private trust? And I'm gonna mute.  

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Yeah. On the private trust, you're correct. You do not register that. No. If if you see a trust that's being registered,   that's some type of statutory trust.  

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Yeah.   And remember, there's over a hundred kinds of trust.  

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Yeah.   But as far as a private,   what I call an express private trust, which is pretty bulletproof if you do it right. There's six elements that you have to follow   to make sure that it's protected.   But it's not recorded with anybody and yes, I would recommend that you   make certified copies or when you make your original, just make three originals   or make one original and then make certified copies of that. We've talked about how to do certified copies on here before.   And then I usually suggest that you hand them to your beneficiaries because   it's it's really their their property that's being held in trust.  

Until the day comes to that   that event,   usually, the passing away of the last surviving spouse   or the passing away of the sole   grantor,   who created the trust, then the property is distributed according to   the trust. Whatever is written in that trust,   the trustee is bound   to follow the that trust.   Now sometimes you wanna put in an option saying, like, well, if the if the beneficiaries   all agree in writing that they wanna, you know, change that,   then it's up to them. But that's they all have to be in agreement in writing.   But, you can make that an option or you can make it very strict where they don't have a say and the trustee just executes the trust. So  

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that's about all I have to say about that. Alright. Now address the birth certificate thing. Larry, have you ever heard of a CUSIP number?  

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Yes.  

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I believe there's a QSIP number on birth certificates. You have to go   if you don't have yours, a copy of it or the original you have to go to, remember I got mine from the Florida,   Vital Statistics, and I paid them $20, and they sent me three certified copies.   K?   Now I believe there's a red QSIP number at the bottom there, And I've never followed up on this.   But the QSIP number, I believe,   is how they track the payments to the bonds.   Okay?   So if that's right, and I'm not sure it is, I've never studied it, I've just seen stuff and put things together.   If it is,   then should we ever get to the point where we take this whole thing back even more so than Trump's gonna do to where we could get in the bowels of the treasury department   and find out who owns the bonds? In other words, through the CUSIP number, you ought to be able to find out who the payment's going to, shouldn't you?  

Shouldn't you?  

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Yes. I think there is a way to do that. I I Okay. Maybe Joe  

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described that one time. I don't know. Don't know. But this is just speculation. But if that's right,   we ought to be able to go in and see if the payments are going to fraudsters like the people that own the Federal Reserve Bank   that or not. And and we could because if if we ever turn this thing around,   we don't wanna short sheet to people that are legitimate investors or mom and pop that bought some ten year bonds or something. We don't wanna screw them. We wanna screw the people that started this scheme that have, advantaged themselves fraudulently.   And if that CUSIP number would lead back to a company or a person that we could identify as one of those people,   will we just negate their whole bond? Because it's all based on fraud.  

So it may be   that that would be a way to go back and accomplish this and separate the real investors that have been duped from the people that perpetrated the whole damn thing.   Okay?   So total speculation,   Larry.   All right?  

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Right. But   as far as like you always tell the story   that,   when when when the birth certificate is issued at a given hospital   that it's taken somewhere with by armed guards and No. No. No. It's not  

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No. No. No. No. It's not issued at the hospital. They have a sheet called a verification of facts. They input those on a terminal that's placed in every hospital by the federal government, and they send the information to the Bureau of Vital Statistics   who prints this birth certificate,   and then when it's printed, puts it in a bank safe with armed guards twenty four hours a day, seven days a week. Now this is a I'm relating a story that was told to Brian Howard by the people at one of the two big hospitals in down in Austin, Texas   that does the thing.  

That's what I'm relating to you.   And I'd say   quite frankly that we're damn lucky that Brian Howard had the big balls to go in and verify all that information for us straight from the horse's mouth.   Capisce?  

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Yeah. I'd I'd really like to see a nurse become a a national that actually inputs that information,   and they can come on your show and and tell us how that's all done. If these systems   have ever been updated because you said that they're probably DOS  

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systems. Larry, I'd like   I'd like to get the quarter of a million dollars my brother stole from me, my half brother too. So okay?  

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You find one of these nurses, does that over there? Certificate, what's that somewhere, and then all the states have a certified copy?  

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I listen,   Larry, I don't know any more than I've told you.   If there are new more, I tell  

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you. Okay. Okay. Thank you.  

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Alright.   Now who who else says?   And and and, yeah, I I don't mind answering any question that deals with what we do here. And if I don't know the answer to it, I will absolutely tell you I don't know.   I give you information   that is from   my experience that I can show you where to go verify it.   K?   That's what I do.   We deal in facts. And I would remind you that out of the fifteen years in March, we've been on the air. I've never had one fact that we put out discredited or rebutted.   Never one time.   The facts.   K?  

For what that's worth. Okay. Who's got something else? Because there's some other things we hadn't talked about yet. The JD Vance   stuff, all this other stuff that's happening. I don't know what's going on this morning with mister Trump, but   I can't wait to get off the show and find out what he's done this morning. Yes.   Was that Wayne?   Somebody said Roger.  

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Roger?  

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Yeah. Well well, I thought it was a male, but hey, Julie.  

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Hi. How are you guys? It's me,   Julie. I have a question for Mark.  

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Okay.  

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Mark, you still with us? Alright. Still here. Go ahead. Yeah. Hi, Mark. I just have a quick question for you. Would you recommend putting bank accounts into trusts as well?  

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Not if you're gonna operate out of them. I mean, you got like I said, you got to be careful how you do that   and,   and the purpose of it. So,   What if the I'll just put it this way, the trust,   in my opinion,   okay,   and and for the trust that I'm teaching about is just for holding property.   And so you want to be careful   that that what you're putting in there doesn't create a tax liability.   So it really depends on you know what kind of bank account are we putting in there   and does that create any kind of tax liability. So if it's just holding property that's fine.   But I do not recommend using a trust   to run a business through because that is just as a national, it's not necessary.  



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And they're not a tax vehicle, Julie. That should that's what these charlatans were doing thirty years ago, is selling high price price trust to people going around the country as a tax vehicle. They're just not a tax vehicle.  

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There's a a gentleman up in Tulsa   who was helping people put   the   the purchase in a five zero one,   and I forget the acronym or the numbering on that. Instead of a five zero three, there's a five zero one. And it's really designed for nonprofit or not nonprofit, but faith based organizations.   And so he was putting these these faith based organizations   as a five zero one into a trust   and he got busted for it   and IRS said they're structuring and this is this is   using trust   to thwart the tax system and they called it abusive trust.   And IRS has a whole division   that all they do is go around looking for abusive trust.  



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Yep. And they automatically put it as a person.   Yep. They treat it as a person. Well,  

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exactly.   And so   not only did he get hit in in, cease and desist,   don't know how much money he got hit for,   but he had to turn over a list of all his clients that that used a used a five zero one trust that he created   to put their church in.   So, you just have to be really careful   about what you do. And and again,   I can't say this enough.   We we keep hearing   the old   methods of trying to get around taxes   and Roger has given you the holy grail.   Not for, not just for dealing for taxes,   but dealing with these government thugs in general.   And protecting   and   using your constitutional   rights, your real,   true   constitutionally   protected rights   that are given to us by God   and partially   enumerated   in the constitutions of The   USA   and of the state that you live in. So,   we've got to get away from   that that old thought of the way the former patriots did it and and God bless them. I mean, they're pioneers. They got lots of arrows   in their back   for for blazing the initial trail that the rest of us have followed in on.  

But again, Roger Roger has given you the Holy Grail with a one page letter, a one page affidavit,   and a one page cover letter sent to the US department.  

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No. There's got to be more, Mark. There's got to be more.  

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It can't be that simple.   Yeah. I think people have have just really just   they think it's gotta be harder than that, you know? But it's just that simple.  

[01:37:10] Unknown:

Our our enemies are quite bright,   obviously. Okay? And, yes, they do hide things. So let me just finish this thought. But they what they're doing they put right in front of you.   Right. Folks, it's right in front of you. The fourteenth amendment. Those two questions they ask all your life. It's right in front of you.   You just can't see it.   It's it's very my shamans  

[01:37:38] Unknown:

go ahead.  

[01:37:40] Unknown:

That's what my shaman buddy I had this I don't Mark, I don't know if you've heard this. I had a shaman buddy down in Argentina,   who was gonna be my English teacher. And then   one day, he walked into the my my apartment. We're having the meeting at my apartment that day and first time, and he walks in, he takes all the books and he slams them down on his glass table. And he says, I won't be your Spanish teacher anymore because of the way your effing mind works,   and walked out the door.   Okay?   Well, I came back around to him a couple of years later. I had an occasion to reunite with old, Diego. I called him Gandalf.   And,   and he turns out he had been studying power from the spiritual   side for twenty years.  

And when our paths crossed that first time, see, I would I had such a problem learning Spanish   that I was I found to play a a one course that worked for me, which is synergyspanish.com   on the Internet.   And and so I I had a technique now that I knew worked for me. So I was taken and interviewing Spanish teachers if they could teach me this way because I could learn that way. Okay?   Well and I took him a copy of my affidavit and kinda explained it to him a little bit. He spoke real good English. He'd lived in the Denver area for six years. Okay? So,   anyway, later on when we got together and this came up, these topics came up and he said, you know, Roger,   when you gave me that affidavit and explained it to me, you increased my understanding   fifty years.  

Wow. That was his words. Okay? Wow. And so   what happened was here's a guy that's studying this stuff spiritually for twenty years, crosses a path with somebody that's been studying it legally and historically and structurally   for twenty years. And we gave each other each other incredible insight. Okay? And one of the things that he taught me,   he said, when power is screwing you, they put everything they're doing right in front of you.   Okay? Now you wanna get off down a little bit of a trail here, that   encounter which lasted with he and I the second time,   maybe ten days.  

And,   he's the one that gave me the ultimate answer on what I think   is the holy grail.   K? We've all seen   the searching for it with whatever his name was, couple movies, and and all the speculation on what the holy grail is. We've got the holy grail, I believe, and this is why.   From what he said after he's told me that, and I was sitting there thinking about it one afternoon in this short period of time, ten days maybe. And for some reason   for some reason,   when I was doing a lot of reading when I was younger,   the Freemason's   motto   stuck with me because I thought it was unusual. So let me ask the audience,   Julie, Mark, anybody in the audience, do you know the Freemasons motto?  



[01:40:45] Unknown:

I don't.  

[01:40:47] Unknown:

Julie? Y'all, you're pretty studied. You know the Freemasons motto?  

[01:40:51] Unknown:

Making good men better. No. That's not it.  

[01:40:56] Unknown:

I I used to know, and I can't remember anymore.   Humorous,  

[01:41:00] Unknown:

like Well, you you're not you you unless you're reading about them, you're probably not gonna see it because I don't believe it's on any of their symbolism. But their motto is just a line pardon me?  

[01:41:11] Unknown:

Want me to lay it out?  

[01:41:14] Unknown:

Sure, Brent.  

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You have a line   and then another line   and then a square.  

[01:41:22] Unknown:

First a line,   then another line,   and then a square.   Now that's the Freemasons motto. Julie, would you care to interpret that for us, please?  

[01:41:36] Unknown:

I can't remember what it is, but I've read about Freemasonry  

[01:41:40] Unknown:

before. Go ahead. I have no idea. Well,   Mark, you got an idea? That's You probably No. That sounds totally foreign. I mean, I think the average person would have no clue.  

[01:41:51] Unknown:

What are these crazy ass guys talking about? For God's sakes, that's their motto. It must mean something.   The pyramid.  

[01:42:00] Unknown:

Well, see Joan Hardy knows this. I think it means ordo ab chao.  

[01:42:05] Unknown:

Order out of chaos. Well, I'm gonna tell you what I believe it means. Okay?   And, you know, back in out west, Julie, you're around DC. We got some folks out west marking the Oklahoma bunch. And if they're out west and they got a bunch of cattle or horses or pigs or something, they put them in a four sided corral, don't they?  

[01:42:27] Unknown:

Yes.  

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They're trapped in there, aren't they?   Yep.   Well, in Babylon, they only use three sides.   And they didn't use rails.   They used concepts.   So first align, well, let's just speculate, Julie.   I'm a pick on you because you're new. Let's just speculate a little bit here. Let's say that the first line is the fourteenth amendment   and that's the baseline.   And then there's another line   and that's when they took over the Federal Reserve and started controlling the government. Does that sound feasible so far?  

[01:43:10] Unknown:

Yep.  

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Alright. What's the third line?   What's the square? Because see a square, that's where they throw you. You're thinking linearly   and a square is a drafting term   for when you close open lines.   What are you doing with the IRS? Two open lines, two sides of the triangle, we're gonna lay the third side in. What's the third side in the Holy Grail triangle that entraps the world?  

[01:43:37] Unknown:

With the IRS?   Nope. Pewter system.  

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It's where they got you to volunteer into servitude,   into the fourteenth amendment.   And what hides under it, the feudal system.   So when you submit your affidavit,   they have to recognize it.   It dissolves the third line,   and you're out of the three sided trap.   That's the holy grail. I believe that's what they're fighting it. And defeat. Think about this.  

[01:44:11] Unknown:

Yeah. Also think about this.   They say square   and we think four sides. They're saying three sides. Because if you look at a framing square   when you look at a framing square, it's got three sides, so they call that a square.   In our minds, we think of square like geometry that's four sided.  

[01:44:31] Unknown:

That's like the, it's like that thing we talked about it last week or week before that silly little sentence   where they say count the f's. You heard that, didn't you, Mark? You've seen that before, I think. Right? Yep. Julie, you see you remember that last week?   Week before? Yes.   Okay. So you can look at that sentence. I don't care how educated you are and your mind will trick you.   I've never seen anybody get it right that didn't know what they're looking for ahead of time. Because when your mind sees o f,   it sees it as o v.  

And you can't see that f, and it's right in front of you.  

[01:45:11] Unknown:

Correct.  

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Okay.   So these are the tricks of the mind and what they call m a j I k. And you really wanna put it in a good perspective as to what we're fighting,   we're fighting all the people that have been put in a spell,   a freemason   spell,   by these tricks and proven tactics.   And I say that because as you go, when I did anyway, went and looked at the 1828,   no Webster's dictionary   on equivocation.   At the bottom, his notes on on the word were this technique is often used by non Christians   to to trick Christians.   That was 1828.   You're right in front of your face. Just like Diego said,   power always puts what they're doing to you   right in front of you. It's just like the guy with FDR says, let's put the great seal on the back of the dollar bill when they switched over to currency   back in the thirties.  

It's right in front of you. You handle it every day.   Most of you handle a dollar bill at least once a day.   It's right in front of you. Your whole lives.   Now even better and I thank Sketch for this. Sketch brought this to us one day,   and he came on and said, you know what the, you know what the pair pyramids assemble for, Julie? How how more in front of your face can they put it? Do you know what the pyramid is a symbol for, Julie?  

[01:46:53] Unknown:

Child sex trafficking.  

[01:46:56] Unknown:

Feudalism.   The pyramid is the symbol for feudalism.   It's right in front of you. That's the  

[01:47:04] Unknown:

altiniized top.   Of course. That's on the dollar bill.  

[01:47:08] Unknown:

Yes.   And the triangle's right there. And you're in it now because in '33, they put you in it.   No. And a hundred and fifty years ago when they set this up, that every time they ask you that question, are you a citizen of The United States? Are you a resident? They knew a hundred and fifty years ago, Julie, that you were gonna answer yes and sign something.   That's how well they know us.   The whole scheme is based on that.   You agree into their fraudulent contract.   Power always puts what they're doing to you   right in front of you.  

And that's true.   K?   So just for your   further you're you're at a a good place, Julie, in your education   to now accept that. Now go noodle on it and see just how damn powerful that is. So what is the holy grail? The holy grail is the Hegelian dialectic.   Problem, solution, you know, thesis, anti antithesis, synthesis.   Because that's the way they can always advance their political agenda. They create the false flag. They come in and lay the solution in. You buy it. Boom.   They got you. They're advanced. You had no idea it happened to you.   Like alien dialectic.  



[01:48:39] Unknown:

So for whatever that works, it's not agreeable with it too.   Of course. You know, they they create the chaos. They create the problem.   They offer you the solution.   And because you volunteer   Yeah.   Yeah. Yeah. Exactly.   Because you're afraid of the fear. It's mostly fear based   and, or or a natural disaster based Yeah. Or a pandemic   based.   All fear.  

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Yeah. And, they jump on it. People how do you know even more so? I I had forgotten this the day that that all came together for me.   I drew it down on a piece of paper. I've still got it somewhere.   May the first of twenty   thirteen.   May the first,   founding of the Illuminati   twenty thirteen. Thirteen's got special significance to them.   So and now I'm let me tell you the rest of that story.   Because when that finally all congealed in my mind, it was towards   the afternoon, and I had   the Andes off a couple hours off to the west to me, and the sun would set over the Andes there.   And on the computer that day, I was in this   frame of mind for a couple of weeks. I call it a trance because I don't know what else to call it, quite frankly.  

I've been in it once before when I was in The States, and that was for a shorter period of time, five or five days maybe, six, seven. And out of that one came the manuscript that became the book.   This is the second and the only other time it's happened to me. And the at that moment, as that congealed on that day,   and I was sitting there kinda looking out over the mountains, and I had on the computer,   you know, that kind of tone that you hear the chant.   And and what that is   is a tone where the frequency   vibrates your pineal gland. That's the way the Indians and all those people over on that side of the world are using. It was on the computer playing loud, just continuous.  

And all of a sudden, when that hit me,   the only way that I can describe this to you, and and I'm being very sincere, okay,   is if you've I'm sure everybody's been constipated at one time or another.   And after you've been constipated, whatever your remedy is, and all of a sudden, that blockage   blockage goes out of you and it gives you all that relief. Right? Well, I had that happen in my chest.   And when this thing came to me, I had a blockage of my sternum,   I guess.   Because all of a sudden, I could feel all this pressure,   and it stopped at that point. Okay?  

It was right between my breasts, right there on the sternum.   And it was like that for a minute, and then all of a sudden, it broke.   And whatever that blockage was, some kind of an energy blockage, I guess,   went down my spine and out my pelvis,   and I felt it.   I mean, I really felt it. Never happened before,   never happened since. But that's the day that everything I just kind of explained to you came to me. Okay? May   2013.  

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Amen. Amazing.  

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For whatever that's worth. Okay? Personal story.   But I believe that to be the holy grail.   And the only reason that we could go back is because   Diego gave gave me the answer.   And and part of my problem that day, I had two problems that had come to a head that were both well, one of them was a little more severe than the other one. The accident for one thing, because they had lost my address. So I changed   houses and they we've I phoned it in. I did everything I I didn't. I had a lawyer do it. Everything I was supposed to do and they they lost it. See? I it's only I'd only been up there a little over a year, and I just didn't realize that all the government offices close at noon for Siesta, and they don't open up till the next day.   And so I got a tip on a lawyer that could help me and,   went to see him in the afternoon or the evening because they reopen at five and go to nine, you know. And so when he I was sitting in the room when he called,   Mark, you'll appreciate this.  

And he was abogado, which is a trial attorney down here.   A contract attorney is called an Escobano,   and they're notaries also. Okay? So they got that difference. Anyway, I went to an abogado, a trial attorney. He called up there. I was sitting in the room, and he just called the police station because they they they answered the phone.   And can I speak to the judicial department? I guess I said, well, they're not here. They'll be back tomorrow. And so he gave them my change of address,   and somehow it got thrown in the trash or lost or whatever.   So   now I'm listed as an international fugitive.  

Okay? All kinds of fun came out of this. Okay?   Hey. We got whoops.   And so   they had after four years.   I knew at some point that that had happened because they I mean, I know   that the wheels of justice turned slow in Argentina,   but they don't turn four years slow   on on accident where there's fatalities.   Okay?   And so I when I finally got my attorney, Yvonne,   and I said, his daddy's a judge in the same circuit.   And I said, Yvonne,   this has to have happened because I hadn't gotten any kind of service. Okay? And he goes, well, he was scared to go up and talk to the judge. It was about three hours up the road. Okay? Another jurisdiction,   little town. And so anyway, if you ever you ever see the pictures of the Andes where you got the great sloping vineyards,   beautifully manicured vineyards and in the back of the snow capped mountains, the Andes. Have you ever seen that picture?  

Well, that's where the accident happened, where that picture is taken. Right? And so my attorney's scared to go tell the judge something.   So, eventually, they found me. And this girl I was dating, which was the other part of the problem, was her and more so her 18, 19 year old daughter who was a bitch.   And,   so both of these things come to a head at the same time, and that's kinda what created this whole situation in the first place. All of a sudden, she couldn't understand me anymore after we've been dating a couple years, and that's why I went back and contacted Diego because he knew both languages and both cultures. And I said, well, I I got something to say. I'm a damn sure make sure you understand me. So now I had to hire him in his time as a shaman guy, which he's pretty good at, by the way.   So, anyway,   all of that's happening, and I got Diego over there for an hour or so at one point, and we're discussing all this stuff. And I'm explaining   to him   the position I've got her in.  

And and so he's gotta go in a minute, and and so I'm explaining it to him, and   just as I'm getting towards the end and the punch line there, he goes, that's power.   And I I didn't wanna lose my story. I knew he had to go. I didn't wanna lose where I was, so I kind of grabbed that it that's power   with my mind and put it in my back pocket. K? I don't want to explore it later. And so I got to the end. It was like the illustration of, you know, in the West where there's a ravine or or something and the house is burning and the bad guy comes up to get the girl who's either gotta go to him or jump over the cliff, that kind of thing. Well, that's the holy grail.   And that's what he's saying. He said, that's power. Okay? And then I finished the the the what I was telling him up and he goes,   that's what you did with your affidavit.  

You stole   their   power.   Totally 100%   accurate.   Because when you when we file that, it dissolves that third rail of the three sided trap and we're out and they can't do anything about it. They gotta recognize it and they can't do anything about it. So in the big picture here, I believe that's what's going on.  

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That is why understanding the feudal system   is really crucial because if you don't understand that,   then you're just swimming around and all these statutes and codes and you know, you're all tangled up in it. But but like I said, when you explain the feudal system,   I got up out of my chair and did a happy dance.   Because I knew that was the final piece to the puzzle that I was missing.   And if you keep that in your mind,   relate that to the fourteenth amendment and so forth, it is absolutely   liberating and empowering   you. Now it's It's a whole different world. When you when you come to that that realization   that you're out of that system   and you don't have to be  

[01:58:05] Unknown:

fighting with it, then it's a whole new world and you've got freedom. It's it's thank you, Roger. That's all I can say. And and you'd see now you don't have to go back and look for things from the fourteen hundreds that might affect this. It's right there in front of you. The thirteenth and the fourteenth amendments say it all. When you know what they're saying,   voluntary servitude   is legal by omission   for the state citizens.   And then in the next one,   subject to the jurisdiction thereof,   they take care of the first part, all persons born are naturalized.   They stick you in the system from the time your feet get out of mama's birth canal, you're in it. Okay? And the presumption is laid, and it's for   reinforced   with that birth certificate that they can now use in their plausible deniability. Remember, they don't think like we do. They can now use that as a warehouse receipt, and they created the bond. Bond is the root word of bondage.  

And they attach it to the bonds, and there's the start of the whole monetary system right there.   Right there. Now, Roger,  

[01:59:12] Unknown:

the other thing too, I want I I wanna back that up too. Whenever we get any kind of pushback from a government agency about being US citizen,   we explain to them that if they're forcing us to be a US citizen, they're violating the thirteenth amendment. Thirteenth amendment. Yep. Yep.   So and and when we do that, when we lay that across them,   they they, concede.   They give us what we want.  

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And, folks, out of all of the court cases and all of the discussion for all these years,   Nobody could look back on it like we do because we totally understand the end game and they don't.   That's the difference.   That's how you can go back and reverse engineer all this stuff like we did with this triangle. That's how you can do all those because we know the end game.   We know what it is, how we got into it, how they held our feet to the fire, how to get out of it, and they've got to recognize it. Period.  

[02:00:14] Unknown:

Very true.   Well,  

[02:00:17] Unknown:

folks, so much for the Monday show. Good program today, I guess. I hope you got something out of it. That that with the information we've covered in the last thirty minutes,   nobody's ever figured out to my knowledge.   Nobody.   So you can take that for what it's worth that in the quarter roll. Well, quarter rolling and get your cup of coffee anymore, will it? Certainly not at Starbucks.   Anyway, I hope you got something out of it. You can use noodle on it. We'll be back tomorrow to expand on   whatever comes up. Hopefully, it's not something like the unicorns   on the backside of the moon.  

We like to think about talk about things of substance that we can prove. Okay? Not speculate on. So thank you. See you tomorrow.  

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Forward movie   focused on freedom. You're listening to the Global Voice Radio Network.  

[02:01:11] Unknown:

Alright, Bory. Thank you, buddy. Glad you're out