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Forward moving and focused on freedom. You're listening to the Global Voice Radio Network.

Well, the world is changing,

but we'd like to help, and and now that we're headed down the right path.

Anyway, that's what we're here to discuss for another 2 hour installment of the radio ranch with

your host right here,

Roger s Sales.

Been trying

to trying to awaken the world to this very important stuff for many, many years, and we've

worked,

quite diligently,

consistently

over many years, and we've gathered this little nucleus of,

of really fine folks that that get it.

And,

we'll use this to grow.

In helping us along in that

metric, if you would, is all these other platforms that Paul and

and everybody have a kind of assembled for us to help extend our reach, and we always like to give them proper credit here at the start. So, we appreciate their help, and we want them recognized

in a positive manner. Don't we, Paul? Oh, yes. Absolutely. We do.

Love everybody for sure for sure.

Got a couple of buttons that I'll be pushing while I'm talking. Hopefully, I won't sound like I'm talking to myself as a as the ludicrous idiot that I am. Anyways,

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Thanks to our buddy, Paul, across the pond. And we're also on 106.9

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That's right. And the quality of that is is very good also. We had an example of that the other day. Yes. Yes. Absolutely.

Now,

a note about the archives.

Some people are having trouble

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Now when you go to

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when you when you click on that link, it'll it'll show you a list of all the archives, and there will be shortcut play buttons there. So if you just wanna play the program from start to finish, just click that shortcut play button. But if you wanna be able to have control of the playback,

either fast forward, rewind, or pause, or or just, you know,

tap anywhere

along the timeline

and immediately jump to a certain area in the program.

You have to click on the title for that episode. So when you go to the list of shows,

you click on the title, it goes to a dedicated page for that episode.

It gives you the option to rewind 10 seconds at the push of a button, fast forward 40 seconds if there's somebody on that's particularly obnoxious,

or you can download

the program.

You can download the archive Okay. And have it Okay. So you can listen to it offline. That's All of the controls are there.

As Quite sophisticated. Sophisticated.

As well as

the description,

AI generated description,

the,

transcript,

and

the chapters list. You can just go down there and see what was being talked about at what times in the program.

It's actually

way groovy. Wow. No. That sounds pretty cool. That sounds pretty cool.

And AI has been doing very, very well at at creating, like, awesome descriptions for the programs.

You just check out the description for yesterday. It's a barn burner.

Yeah. Well, yesterday was a barn burner.

It's,

so AI and I are on the same track there.

Well, that's cool. You know, for the audience, especially those who might be new, this is all a result

of the fact that,

I've and I wanted to have

the length of time without commercial interruptions. That was one of my

primary desires because I understood at that time how complex the information is and how difficult it is for some people to grasp it. And when you're being interrupted by spots all the time, it's very counterproductive,

I've found. Okay?

And, so that was one reason. The other reason,

is because I didn't wanna sell your ears. I didn't bring you get you here for hook or crook to cross paths with you and try and educate you to sell your ears to somebody. Now not that the offerings

might not be good. Okay?

But I, again, I don't want the commercial interruptions.

Paul English keeps trying it in a while. He figured out what you gotta do it because I just forget about it.

Play a musical break

in between so people can go to the bathroom or whatever.

I just like the contiguous

conversation,

and,

I have not

implemented

that. But

I'm not totally against it, but we just get in these discussions and quite frankly, I would forget about it. You know? So that's another part of it. In doing all that, we have done this on a shoestring.

And it would

it would,

amaze you

at how little, thanks to Paul English's research

and and and Paul Beiner's applications even on top of that, of

how inexpensive

it is to have a facility like this 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, really.

Where in the old traditional,

way of doing things, well, hell, you'd pay half a $1,000,000

or more for just a basic

radio station

with a stick no longer than

not not very big, you know, the tower and,

high dial position and a day lie a day timer. So,

anyway, it's an unusual and and unique situation. I am

thrilled to death to be able to do this and have the reach we do and,

have, all the other advantages that are built into what we do. Now part of the negative of that is some of the things that have happened with these archives.

And,

you know, technical crap won't go into it, but it appears Paul's found us a good home with some really good attributes.

And, if you can start finding out how to get over there if you use them, I just think that's fantastic that you hook it into AI, get all kinds of stuff. So kudos, Paul. Good work.

Well, I actually, I've gotta give props to Paul English

because Paul English was the one that found it.

Yeah. And,

and we're we're actually the way we have things configured, I mean, we've we've grown quite a bit in a platform since,

since what Paul English had set up.

We go a lot more places. We're streaming a lot to a lot bigger audience.

We have, a lot more reliable

and and better quality,

audience participation

room. We we have support for a thousand people.

Yeah. So, I mean, the expenses have gone up, but we can do this thing for

roughly 2 hun a 200 a month. So Hey. It's it's just ridiculously

cheap. You know? Yeah. It's ridiculously cheap. What we've got.

Yeah. And and most of the time most of the time, I've been just funding it myself because it's only a couple of $100 a month.

So,

but I do also appreciate

I I do also appreciate the contributions

of the listeners. Well, I was gonna

gonna I was gonna transition if anybody if you wanna help us in that respect,

they they do what, Paul? There's a give send go or something there on the website, and it goes to you, right, for these types of expenses?

Right. There's a give, send, go. And I'm I'm also I've got some affiliate relationships with, like,

MoreMido,

and UltraMido

and Fat Fix,

through, Marketplace Global

and also the ITRO wand. I'm promoting those. And the 60 seconds at the beginning of the program, the bumper on Global Voice Network talks about those things. So we don't have to do a commercial in between. We don't have to split anything

up. And if you wanna fast forward through the the initial bumper because you've heard it all, just hit the little 40, you know, the 42nd advanced button and bam, you're you're all the way through it.

But let me let me just give you something really quick

because I was really I was really surprised

at what AI did yesterday

for the description for yesterday's show. I mean, this is actually

must listen radio. Check this out.

In this episode of the Radio Ranch, host Roger Sales delves into the intricacies of the 14th amendment and its implications

on birthright citizenship.

The discussion is enriched by insights from legal experts, Mark Levin and Robert Barnes, who provide contracting views on the interpretation

of the 14th amendments

clause subject to the jurisdiction thereof. Shit. What

Levin

argues for a strict interpretation, emphasizing allegiance to the United States, while Barnes explores the Lockean

concept of consent in the historical

concept context of citizenship.

The episode also touches on the historical

controversies surrounding the 14th amendment's ratification

and its impact on modern legal interpretations.

Additionally, the conversation extends to related topics such as the implications of the 13th amendment, the role of the IRS, and the legal status

of nationals versus citizens.

The episode is a deep dive into constitutional

law, offering listeners

a comprehensive

understanding

of the legal frameworks Yeah. That shaped American citizens. You gotta be you gotta be woofing me that that just spit out from from the AI.

That was fantastic.

The only thing I had to do to fix what AI came out of is I had to fix your misspelled last name. I had to add an I

between the a and the l.

AI did that whole description

untouched

except

for adding one little character.

Oh, wow.

Well, I'm so you could well, I'll go back to mister English. I'm gobsmacked.

And the implications of what you just read to me and us being able to do that for all these episodes

takes care of the whole description problem.

It it certainly does. No. We haven't had a description problem since we went to Podol. Man man, almighty.

I wish you could get that information to scriptures for America,

and people could do that for those pastor Pete,

sermons.

Because, man, there were some real good ones over there. And the fact that there's no description,

it's just a real hamper. It's a it it's a pie it's a crapshoot almost instead of a, here's what I'm looking for. Now here's a question. Could you go to AI

and have them question a a a search multiple programs

if you're looking for a keyword or something?

And it could identify which programs were in there, which programs would include No. AI

would process each program individually. Individually. But then Okay. But then

because

the transcript

and the description

would then be spidered,

you should actually be able to search that context with Google

or Yandex.

Well, folks, you got a lot of,

a lot of leeway and options we didn't have before. I just you know, I I remember Paul saying it was attached to it. You could do that. But to hear that accurate and honest description of

of yesterday's 2 hours is, just real impressive. And that's what I wanted to launch into today was that. And eventually, I'm gonna,

get over and ask some of you to see what you've noodled up in the last 24 hours.

But boy, we covered some really important ground yesterday.

And in thinking about it, post, subsequent to the program and last night, and again this morning, it's just,

to have those 2 legal experts

from my perspective of trying to get people's attention for over 30 years on this. And now all of a

sudden,

things have arranged themselves

to where we've got this right in front of us staring it on a national, even an international

debate stage.

That's impressive. Okay?

It it blows my socks because it really

it you know, cross your fingers and say a prayer. It gives us much more of a chance of getting our 2¢ in there on the on the periphery somewhere as I said. And

as this grows and this is gonna grow. Okay?

And, because it's gotta go through 2 levels. It's gotta go from the federal district court in Washington

up to the appellate court in the 9th circuit. That'll be the 9th circuit, very liberal. And then to the supreme court,

there could be a lot of discussion on that. As that grows,

it increases our percentage and chance

of of somebody being familiar or hearing about our material and going you need to you need to talk to these people. K? So that's my hope and prayer, and and it's been a as I told you, I used to push and push and push, and I had such such

little success. And not that we didn't have any. We just had little and every inch was slow going.

And,

and at that point, I I I don't know that I ever really would consider quitting, but,

you gotta go, boy, this is sure frustrating. You know? And think back to Job and some of those other examples that you should follow and just keep going. And at some point, I just turned it over to god. I said, I cannot open this door.

I've tried. I've tried. I've done everything. I almost got killed,

everything else trying to get this message out. And,

I I can't do it, and I know it's gonna be you that's gonna open that door. You got the strength. I don't.

You got the knowing what's coming. I don't.

And so,

at that point, it's just get back and do the basics, drill practice, rehearse,

put one foot in front of the other, keep reaching out and trying to find you folks,

and,

look. Here we are. K? So we're just waiting for him to open the door. Now what I had never contemplated in all that

was these things arranging themselves

in a situation where

our impact may may be expedited

exponential from if we'd had a chance to get it back then. More and more people are looking for answers. More and more people's awareness is up and heightened. And and hopefully their mind is open as we see more and more of the scams

uncovered that these bastards have set up, and people start learning a little bit to think like the enemy. And that's that's what you gotta be doing here. You gotta be either totally open minded or you gotta be able to think in somebody else's shoes.

And if you do, you can really, really get some impact here. So that's one thing I wanted to say, and it's good to see those discussions and have

lawyers the quality of Levin

and, Robert Barnes and even Viva Fry, of course, is in his.

You know?

But,

regardless, so I wanted to mention that, and

that's gonna improve. And it wasn't it interesting to hear these

pretty too high profile attorneys,

and they're discussing what we hang our hat on pretty much in-depth.

And nobody

makes,

me yes. They're right on the they're one onion skin peel away. Okay?

And and and if they just ask the right question and the right question being,

well, what other systems in history has this utilized?

I think Barnes even edged up against that. Okay?

But he didn't get it. He's still under the

the 14th amendment was the great,

making him

making her slide a. And even had a cocky little grin on his face when he said that if I remember.

And I said, you know, Barnes, you're so right, yet you're so wrong.

Interesting, isn't it? Now being that this was mentioned several times yesterday,

I, dug it up out of my little limited archive and sent it to Paul

because I think we've discussed it, but never really read it. And you should try and put that on the website somewhere, Paul, in that,

in the area of these types of things. And what I got was the dissent

in the case US versus Wong Kim Ark and the pertinent part of that that applies to us. This is the one place

that I've ever seen in all of these years or anybody's ever showed me where they definitively

recognize

this in a law case. Okay? Now I mentioned the buttressing thing,

which I do about but just kind of forgotten

yesterday in the program.

Excuse me. And that was,

the, tragedy and hope,

deal. And

what was his name again? I had done it. Carol Quigley.

Quigley. Carol Quigley, who,

is this interesting,

Paul, the night that

I consider my patriot birthday

of July 16, 1992,

was the night of Bill Clinton's first acceptance speech.

And he alluded to and and named Carol Quigley

in his speech

at excuse me. Oh,

wow.

As his favorite professor at Georgetown,

a

Jesuit University there in DC.

And so Quigley

was a member of the Council on Foreign Relations and a real leftist and,

actually was allowed into the archives

of the CFR for 2 years to research all the background on tragedy and hope.

And, that book, if you didn't know, it's been reprinted now. It was released

and then they went in and destroyed the plates. Did you know that, Paul?

No. I didn't. Yeah. Whoever the the publisher was,

because they were kinda shocked that all that was getting out there, I guess, they went back and destroyed the plates. And, only in later years have people

reprinted it, and it's available. So there was also a, a TV series or something based on it. Anyway, tragedy and I hope it in there. Carol Quigley makes I used to have access to the quote. I've just lost it. So along the line, but he said,

the world's financial me leaders

met in regular secret sessions

and fashioned the world's financial system

as a feudal in a feudalist fashion.

Well well, that's right from the archives.

K? Straight.

And I dare say, hey. You can't have the world's financial system in a feudalist

fashion

without Serfs.

K?

So there's your your 2

absolute things,

that, where you can go back and really nail this. Because some people just can't they cannot get over, I think,

that their property first of all, they don't understand the dual meaning of that word and the legal implications,

that it's a right and all that kind of thing. And and they automatically because it's been drilled into our heads. When you say slavery and property, they think black slavery in our country.

And it is a form of of servitude, but it's voluntary

as it's set up and,

all that stuff, and it's not the complete

black slave,

type situation.

But do most people know that when they look themselves in the mirror every morning

in their subconscious? Well, I can't be a slave. Look at this. So, anyway, those are just things that I've thought about why we don't connect with people

over the

years. But, boy, here's some guys that really got it. Okay? And this is chief justice Fuller,

who was the chief justice of the Supreme Court. I went back and researched these guys.

He he was born in Maine.

Ended up I don't remember where he went to law school, but he ended up as a real estate attorney and, funny enough, Paul, in the aforementioned

Chicago.

And, that was where evidently he did his career in real estate. And with that knowledge of his background, you can see how in those days that he would at least be somewhat familiar with the feudal system.

K? I think. Anyway, I can make that connection.

And,

then he, I don't know his career path up to the Supreme Court, but he was chief justice for 10 years or more.

And, he,

presided over both Wonkimarc

and,

Plessy v Ferguson.

And there were a couple other important court cases in that span of time too. Pollock

versus US first income tax that was challenged and all that kind of stuff. Anyway, that's chief justice Fuller. And, of course, the other guy that's on this dissent

is, well, who else? The great dissenter.

John Harlan,

a,

one of the finest justices our country's ever produced, I would say, from my studies and what his reputation is. And a man from an aristocratic

blue blood family in Kentucky,

and his son actually

after he was gone, his son became a supreme court justice

and followed in his father's footsteps.

And he,

was the author of that wonderful dissent we read the other day, Downs v Bidwell

from 1901 from the Insular Cases, which the ladies and gentlemen of the bar, we have 2 different forms of government at the bar. You know? That that, descent, that was John Harlan, the great dissenter.

So this is the descent

in Wong Kim Ark

that nailed it. These guys nailed it. So, Paul, if you'd be so kind.

I would be happy to.

The rule of citizenship

adopted by the majority

was the outcome

of the connection

in feudalism between the individual

and the soil on which he lived. And the allegiance due

was that of the liege men to their liege lord.

It was not local

and temporary

as was the obedience to the laws owed by aliens within the dominions of the crown,

but permanent and indissoluble

and not to be canceled by any change of time or place or circumstances.

And it is

this rule, pure and simple,

which it is asserted,

determined

citizenship of the United States during the entire period prior to the passage

of the act of April 9th, 18, 66,

and the ratification of the 14th amendment,

and the governed

the meaning of the words citizen of the United States

and natural

born citizen

used in the constitution as originally framed and adopted.

I submit

that no such rule obtained during the period referred to

and that those words bore no such

construction

that the act of April 9, 18, 66

expressed the contrary rule, that the 14th amendment prescribed

the same rule as the act,

and that if that amendment bears the

construction now put upon it,

it imposed the European Continental

Common Law with feudalism

overlaying

the English common law rule on this country for the first time and made it absolute

and unbending

just as Great Britain was being relieved

from its inconveniences.

Very eloquent, very accurate. They nailed it. K?

Now the other thing we talked about it yesterday, and I heard I actually heard Alex,

when I was listening to his show last night,

mentioned this court case couple of times, at least 2, maybe 3 times, which is Elk versus Wilkins.

We went into Elk yesterday a bit, and, of course, that's the decision. And it was 18,

80 something. I thought it was 78. He said it was in the early eighties, but it was right in that time frame. And the conclusion that you can only draw is that Elk was sovereign.

Okay. Well, what about the state citizens? They didn't mention them at all in there. Okay? And that's really what what we are too.

But the other important thing to know about that case and its conclusions

was it's the only case

that's gone in and even adjudicated

at all the key phrase that both those guys were yapping on yesterday

and subject to the jurisdiction thereof. It's the important part of the 14th amendment because it delineates and decides who is and who isn't.

It doesn't really say that directly, but that's exactly what it is. You can look at that the 14th amendment.

In law,

they, you'll you'll see

if you mess with it that there'll be certain things and and they'll say, well, to be that, it has to pass these tests.

And they'll give you sometimes 3 or 4 different legal tests. Does does this meet that requirement and that requirement? Well, when you break this down in that manner, the 14th amendment as is a 2 pronged legal test. And Barnes accentuated

it yesterday,

but I wonder how many of you caught it on the first listen

and subject to the jurisdiction

is

a so and and is. Okay, are the the I that not really dwelled on the is too much, but more on the and. But it's the and subject, which is if you meet the first clause, any person born or naturalized

in the United States.

Now notice, it doesn't say United States of America, does it, Paul? No. It doesn't.

And that means really specifically,

it's for DC and the territories, doesn't it? I will say so. What I'm saying. Well, as I'm saying, these guys wrote this

knowing

that 80 years later, they were gonna do a bankruptcy and throw everybody into this because they'd control the whole country, and that would be an extension of the bankruptcy

over the whole continental United States. Wouldn't it? That I mean, that's what that is. Okay?

So all persons born and natural or naturalized.

And and by the way, when naturalization

used to be done in the states.

And and that's part of probably the reason that the court in,

in Dred Scott said the way it was, there wasn't a federal citizenship for them. And and Dred Scott, you should know, I'm off on this tangent here.

Dred Scott was the, a guy that was the chief of the Supreme Court for,

I believe,

20 years.

His name was Roger

Taney. He was from South Carolina,

Bruce,

and he never went to law school.

And he was the one that wrote Dred Scott. And, yeah, Dred Scott doesn't seem it seems inhumane, but they were looking at it from a disparate different perspective like property in the way everything had been and property rights.

Okay? So

they were having to address that on the side too. So, anyway, Dred Scott, you go back all

before

that, people were naturalized in the states. As I was saying, that's the rule that was overriding the Dred Scott decision because there was no federal citizenship.

So that little deal was and and you wanna know how controversial

that case is, Paul? We're still talking about it over a 150 years later.

Yeah.

Okay?

It's still debated

a 150

years later.

So for for whatever it is that was part of the instigation here, all persons born are naturalized.

They moved the naturalization

process to the feds with the 14th amendment as they encroached in and established federalism,

really,

and subject to the jury. There's the second prong. You not only have to be this, and they'll take care of that for you. They did the bankruptcy.

They got this birth certificate thing set up, and they'll make sure you're a 14th amendment person and you're born within the jurisdiction of the United States. Maybe not the physical United States like DC.

You know? Well, if you go to DC, somebody told me years ago, one of our patriots in Atlanta, they were up there for something, and they were driving back to Atlanta. And as they went into Virginia,

Julie probably knows this.

She's right there as the other Virginia folks are.

And there's a big one of those big green signs and it says you're now leaving the United States

right there.

Okay? And subject. So that's the big deal

is are you subject? Now both of those guys yesterday

covered it, touched on it, delved into it, and neither one of them made the connection. Are you a citizen of the United States? Are you a resident?

Neither one of them made that connection.

Neither one of them asked the question, where was the other time or what other societies use this approach of assigning political status? They didn't dig that deep. They were that close,

that close,

and they never asked the right question.

Yeah. They they were literally

an onion skin away.

Thin onion skin.

Yes.

You know, one of the brown ones on, like, the surface. Well, I'm tickled to death at that, right, because this is really

you know, what's the big problem with the whole patriot community all these years? Well, nobody knows it's a feudal system.

When you put no it's a feudal system, everything just falls right into place.

Okay? So

there's a big deal. That's how close they were to it. These very learned men that gave us their opinion on this situation yesterday.

And,

that topic is gonna be much discussed in the near future.

Hallelujah.

K?

That's like this is Roger. When Mark Mark said, you know, Mark's been messing with this stuff for 10 years,

over there

with,

Dan Maderer and all that.

And and even,

the

the guy that called me that was a research lead a leader,

and he said, you know, we had everything,

Roger, except we didn't have the affidavit. And I'm sure he meant we're we're to send it also.

But,

when I told Mark, you're ready to walk away from the whole patriot movement,

and he goes, man, it's like changing my life to notice the feudal system. That's the big piece everybody's missing. Right? And we're getting close to exposing that, hopefully. Now somebody was trying to say something a minute ago.

Yes, Bruce. Bruce.

Hey, Bruce.

Yes, sir.

Rogers, ever since I've seen your affidavit

and, put it in the record as a a national,

I have been adding to this call, not questioning

this call.

We gotta Okay. Learn what he is giving us. It's a blessing

to us,

and don't question him at all.

He's right. He let us I don't mind.

I don't mind being I don't mind being questions. It just gives you another

opportunity to steal

spray sharpen steel and then reinforce the truth.

So you Steve

David Strait and Anavon Wright

type people are pretty easily disposed of, really, when you go in and have any kind of wherewithal about your knowledge

and confidence in it. And, like, for instance, the admiral d law thing. Okay. What's the remedy?

Duh. Well, I mean, this Yes, Bruce. What

what I'm getting at is you went through a torture

the other day, getting questioned and interrupting on what you were talking about,

and it interrupted all of us too. And I'm I'm asking,

Paul to mute everybody until you get through with your point of what you're gonna teach us

to keep you from getting interrupted on your train of thought. Okay. I thought I'm gonna give

a virtual reaction

on you. Oh. And Okay. I don't like it.

Okay. Well, thank you, Bruce. And,

yeah, we'll give Paul some more stuff to do and monitor. That's probably good he's got so much spare time.

Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No problem.

Yeah. Yeah. Who else is, anybody else wanna weigh in on yesterday or subsequent thoughts or things like that or questions?

Nobody?

Yeah. Yesterday, we couldn't

yesterday, we couldn't get a word in edgewise. Today, it's crickets.

I'm telling you, man.

Hey, Roger.

Yes. Who's this?

Hey. This is Paul from Kentucky.

Oh, hey, Paul. Oh, man. I'm glad you called. I forgot to send Brent a note. I thought about it, but I was out eating lunch.

So

anyway

And and that's what I was go ahead.

No. I took it. Go ahead, please.

To chime in about,

I was driving. I'm a a a over the road driver, truck driver, and so I didn't write anything down. So I was very impressed that the call after the call,

there were several people on, and I I called back in and said, hey. Did anybody remember

who that attorney was and and,

that Roger mentioned? And a gentleman spoke up and and, helped me out with that. And so I did contact him last night. And I, again, I appreciate the call. And, actually, the call after the call was just as,

helpful. So I feel Well, Paul, you know, it's been that way for a while. And these some of these folks

hang around on the platform till, hell, the wee hours of the morning, man. I'm telling you.

So, if anybody does get one of those

epiphanies, you know, and those epiphanies can be really painful.

And you gotta wake up and you just scratch an itch. You go plug into the platform here, and they'll help you find it and scratch it. Yeah. It was great. And and it was several hours later because I had pulled in to,

stop for just a minute, and I thought, man, I ought to write that down. Well, then I couldn't remember it. And I called in, and immediately somebody gave me the information, and it it was very helpful. And then there was a couple other things that they were very helpful with as well. So I enjoy the mastermind group after the call. It's been really good as well. So thanks again. I appreciate all you guys do.

Well, we got some pretty sharp folks that are attracted to this message, Paul, and they've,

been very attentive and good students, and they've got their arms around most of this pretty good. So,

that's why, my goal, you know, is to try and get a foundation built and just hope and pray that the good Lord opens the right door for us when it's time.

Perfect. Perfect. And I also wanted to throw something out there to you which really has nothing to do with your message today, but you bring up Kentucky quite often.

Obviously, that's where I live. I I wasn't born here, but it's my home now. And,

if you ever get a chance,

I don't know where you can purchase it, but there's an amazing book out there called The Bluegrass Conspiracy.

And, you always think of New York and

the mafia and the Gambinos

and and whatever,

or Jimmy Hoffa or whatever.

But,

if you ever get this book and read it, you you and I will have something amazing to talk about.

Okay. Well, my reading and eyesight's a little challenged, so I don't do too much of that anymore.

But if you'd like to wanna talk about it sometime, I mean, I know it's been

well, let me just see if I can give you an example. When y'all gonna get rid of this corrupt damn Mitch McConnell?

Yeah. I'm into that.

Mitch Mitch is what we call it here.

Yeah. So,

I don't know. I don't know if he's not gonna die up there before you can get rid of him. Anyway,

thank you. Paul, any questions? Have you follow have you done our initial paperwork? You're just finding us, aren't you? Yes, sir. I I did. Yes. I've been on about 2 or 3 calls.

Again, I've been kinda reserved.

Once I got familiar with the call, that's when I reached out about my civil stuff.

Yep. And,

what what do you what would I need to do? Do you is there a website or something? Or Yeah.

The yes.

Well, you can ask if you forget or might be driving. I don't know. It's

the matrix

docs.com.

The matrix docs, and you can spell docs 2, 3, or 4 ways,

and it'll still get there.

And,

there's all kinds of information on there. As Paul was saying earlier, he's got the archives there, and there's a lot of I tell you what you should do.

Down on the right, there's a new student package section,

Paul. Uh-huh.

And and one of the things that well, I'd suggest you do is there's a fabulous,

2 hour

documentary from 25 years ago called the Emergency War Powers Act by doctor Gene Schroeder. Are you familiar with that? No. I'm not.

Well, it's him and a research team. 8 or 9 people put this together back in the mid nineties.

It got a big splash in the Patriot community, but never anybody else. And it's all the proof

of what they did and how they did it with all the exhibits

that we pick up and go, well, they threw us into this feudal system when this bankruptcy happens. And that's what he covers in that. It's 2 hours long. It's excellent research.

All the,

exhibits and stuff are included in there. And, if you watch that, you'll have even a better background

on what has happened in the past to get us here.

Because,

anybody's

skeptical, if you're talking to anybody, go, well, look at this.

I think there's 89 exhibits in there or something. There's a whole bunch of exhibits. And there's some other, like, new

newbie kind of things there. But that Gene Schroeder video is,

very important information. I mean, it's just very important.

It's your it it's never been, you know, rebutted or anything.

And his conclusion is

hopefully, we'll be speaking with Gene again here shortly.

He wanted to wait. We talked to him. Been trying to talk to him for a year.

Finally got to have a short session with him about,

what, Paul? Month or month and a half ago.

And,

it was very productive,

and he's still, you know, on 2 feet.

And he said we'll try and get together again after 20th, which, of course, was the inauguration.

So hopefully, Joel reach out to him and see if he's not too busy. He's a veterinarian and I guess has his own spread and all kinds of stuff. He's getting up there in age like all of us are. But hopefully, we'll have another one of those sessions on the on the show here, at least recorded. Now here's his conclusion.

He said if we can ever get a president in there, all they have to do is go back and undo

the original award emergency powers act, which, this one was put in,

around March 9th 33

at the bankruptcy.

Mhmm. And,

so and we've been,

the the,

the Israelites were in slavery in Babylon

for 70 years.

And here in March 9th, we will have been in Babylonian

captivity

for 92.

K? Yeah. So,

that's this great background. Gene's a great guy. Gonna have you back on. His conclusion was all we need to do is get a president in there who will swipe of a pen, say this emergency is over. And as he says, the whole world economy would crash.

And what we're doing is the same thing even better, but we do this individually.

And you see, this has got to be this has got to be your freedom is your individual choice. It's not somebody else's choice. It's your freedom.

And you're gonna make that decision just like your spirituality.

Okay? So this has gotta be an individual effort.

Then the individual's

effort, once they're strong educated and and really sure on their feet,

now we got a group that's really got teeth.

Otherwise, you try and do what Anavon Wright is doing and you miseducate

people. You get them in a group. They give them priorities and positions that you gotta go through, and then everything becomes political.

K? Because all the inside.

Yeah. I agree. And and and,

to your case in point, I've been a part of several calls that are probably not near as,

put together as your call is, and especially the call after the call,

is amazing too.

And,

and I appreciate everybody's participation.

So, yeah,

I understand exactly what you're saying.

And

and,

you know, again,

this gentleman named Kent, he's been promoting several calls.

Just if people would like to be a part of them, they can, and and that's and I've heard you on the Tuesday night call.

I think it's a republic call. And and and so, I thought, well, I'll try this out. Well, the first time turned into the second time, turned into the third time,

and now it's it's kinda becoming a habit.

I also wanted to mention,

through these calls,

it it the the my biggest epiphany

was one day when, you know, I was a kid in school and we we, you know, we studied

social social studies history.

And, you know, I understood then that the country was founded we the people, for the people, by the people.

Well, then when I started getting on these calls,

and I'm thinking, well, we need to change this and we need to change that or the president needs to change this. President needs to change that. This needs to

this.

President needs to change that. This needs to happen. And then I realized

the light bulb, the button went off it. Wait a minute. No. It's We The People for the people by the people. So it's the people.

So I have been on a mission for several years,

and, unfortunately, haven't been able to put all the pieces of the puzzle together.

But prior to spending a little time in the trucking expedite business,

I did music and promotions before COVID,

and, I worked with approximately

300 national acts

from Lady Antebellum to JZ Top,

and you name it.

And

it would be my

goal in life

or I would love

to be able to

raise support

to go out there and go to places like state fairs

and public events

to promote

what we're doing on these calls

with the exception

that until I met you,

no one could handle

the kind of volume

I could bring to the table.

And

so that's why I've kinda pretty much put it on the back burner

because even if I raise the support to allow me to quit sitting in the seat driving this truck

and go out there and promote

freedom in America and We the People, For the People, By the People. In fact, I've got a We the People,

Facebook page that's over 2,000 members.

But

and get some of these national acts involved.

Some of our most patriotic ones have passed away, but, you know, you still got, Hank Williams Junior, Kid Rock, etcetera.

They're huge patriots.

You know, we we could take back our country. I mean, not in a in a political way, but in a freedom way. And I yield.

Well, you what you do is you reclaim all those god given rights. I don't know if you know that I have

a Absolutely. Career my career was in the music industry.

And we've got another new listener, Chris.

Chris out in California. I don't know if he's on with us today or not. And he was in, did a lot of music stuff himself too, he was telling us.

I used to work I I did radio. That's how I got into doing broadcasting when I was in my early twenties and,

spun,

you know, playing the hits for a few years. And I was in a beach town, Panama City, Florida, and a lot of people from Atlanta that represented,

labels like to come to the beach. And we were, had had a little bit going for us as a station. And so I found out there are people that work for labels that would go around and promote records, and it took me a couple of years. I got up there doing that with Mercury and worked for ABC and,

worked for a little, year long company called Infinity Records,

which was probably the best corporate job I ever had. Remember

pina colada song and all that?

And then I did independent promotion for about a year and hated it. It turned just in hated it and,

it made a career change. And then I taught

broadcasting

and,

and a record promotion at the Art Institute of Atlanta. They had a music curriculum. I taught there for 10 years.

And,

in that period of time was when I stumbled into John and Glenn. So here we are.

But we've got a lot of interesting music background. I was gonna say earlier, you know, Paul, we were we're talking about Chicago right there. And on one of the trips I made up there and working for Mercury,

they they took us out to a really ritzy ass restaurant

right there on the lake, right there inside,

right on the shore, and it was, I don't know, the 56

club or something. It was up in one of those big buildings, very eloquent

meal looking out over that downtown Chicago area. So, yeah, I got a few good memories out of those years, Paul.

Nice.

Nice. I will, so, you know, yeah, that'd be great. And any I don't tell anybody to do anything. All the resources, we got a lot of resources for for you.

We got, the national status dot com website. We got Merca's

national status freedom on Telegram.

Gina and and her husband, Gary, have contributed a lot out, and they got the biggest group. They got a weekly meeting with over 50 people showing up

on Monday at a high up there,

Kalispell area.

And,

so we're growing. You know, we got plenty of resources for you,

and anybody else. And the show is here. I mean, this forum is here for people like you that are new,

have questions about this very confusing.

The the way they've set this up intentionally,

and we're here to help people

get that straight, understand it, and move forward if they so choose. I've never told anybody to do this.

My job is a watchman on the wall like the old testament thing, and what I'm doing is presenting to you that you've got a choice

that you probably never knew you had before.

And if you wanna take it or explore it, we'll help you to a point where you can make an intelligent decision. But it's your decision. It's got to be your You know, it's you know, it's funny you say that because,

here in Louisville, Kentucky, you wouldn't think this, but we have at least the 5th, if not the 3rd

largest megachurch

in the United States. There was, like they they they've got the top ten, and I don't know the Christmas cathedral was included at one time

and, obviously,

Joel Steens Church and stuff. Well, anyways, I know the founding pastor very well. We he's retired now, but we generally get together once a year and have lunch. And, you know, one of the in my opinion, one of the secrets to the success of this church is, obviously, I feel like God has got his hand in it and blessed it. And I really feel like that church is really doing biblically what the Bible suggests,

and that's invite people, bring people,

engage people, equip people, empower people.

But also

that when you come to the church as a visitor,

they encourage you to come to a it's usually, I think, on a Monday night, but it's called a what we believe class.

And usually, the senior minister is the one who teaches this class. And,

basically, it's what we believe,

and here's the biblical scripture to back it up. Now if you don't believe that,

that's your choice. We don't we're not gonna tell you you you have to believe this way. But this is what we believe as a church, and we're sharing with you why we believe that. Here's a scripture to back it up. And, you know, that's huge to me because that church allows you

to pretty much make choices

and make decisions

versus

a lot of churches that are very kind of manipulative

and

and, you know, things of that nature. If you don't believe this way, you'll go to hell. You know?

We believe in this, and this is why. This is a scripture. So so that's great that your call is very simple is what I was

that's why I was putting the connection. I'm sorry. Alright.

Well, as you, if you talk to people about this, and again, that's totally your choice.

There's a very good video on the website called God's Trump card,

which is extremely

good in its presentation

because I

reversed the order in the presentation. In other words,

in this one,

I tried consciously,

in thinking about it because sometimes you tell people what's going on here, and it's so confusing because everything's opposites and they don't understand a lot of the technicalities.

And so what I did in that one is I explained to you

how they did it and how to undo that and then what they did to assess a society.

For instance, I would say, Paul,

do you remember the first time you found out about all this stuff and were exposed to it?

Yeah.

And when my pet I'm here. Go. When do do you know anything when you Truthfully, it was it was,

about 6 years ago, and it was here in Louisville, Kentucky.

I'm here. Can you hear me? Yeah. I hear you. But no. Hello? It wasn't 6 years ago. I hear you. It was when you're about 5 or 6 years old and somebody presented you with Alice in Wonderland.

Because this whole thing is in Alice in Wonderland.

I see what you're saying. Did it and how you go back and straighten out the opposites

that they've implanted in your subconscious mind. And every time you do that, you get a little slice of reality back. That's your remedy for what they've done to you. It's called equivocation.

And with these people,

they follow

exactly,

James 1 8. A double minded man is uncertain in all of his ways.

And what they do is they take an opposite definition of keyword

and sub and implanted in your subconscious mind. Now your subconscious,

which controls 90% of your day, is acting opposite of your 10%

conscious,

and that's where that verse applies.

Once you go in

and

and change that key definition in your subconscious mind,

now they're working together.

That's where you're getting in connection back with God and being empowered.

And every time you do it, you get a little slice of reality back.

So that's that's why I say that video

that video is incredibly important

simply because of that. Instead of telling you what they did and then explaining that to you, I explained that to you at first. Now you can easily understand, a, what they did. You can get out of it personally

by going through this exercise

of, of re replacing the opposite definition

with a reality definition

in concert with your subconscious mind, and you walk into this path of reality

and empowerment

because you're now connected back to the god given rights you were supposed to have at birth that were stolen from you by Esau Edom here. What has happened in the big picture is Esau Edom has stolen his birthright back.

Gotcha.

Well, that'll be good. I'll definitely you've given me a lot to chew on. Yeah. Yeah. It's right there on the website. And I I appreciate everything. I appreciate all you guys do.

Well, if that fact that you're a long distance, sir, you say an x, you expedite

deliveries, or are you a distance driver?

Mostly expedite.

Usually, I'm within about a 400 mile radius, so I'm always Well, okay. Cool.

Alright. Well, Paul, Paul, he's the truck driver.

You work for Because I work for myself, I I stay pretty busy.

Alright. Well, the there's 400 miles you can get one of these programs

out of the archives and Oh, I love it. Play it. And you can download it and play it while you're driving. Okay? So there's a suggestion for you.

And and if you really wanna learn this, and I don't know the amount of your background in this area, our Patriot area, it sounds like you're pretty well grounded there. But there's been a lot of false information,

in our community for many, many years.

And if so, you need to wipe that out and start replacing that with truth. Now at this point, Paul, we're gonna bid our friends up there at the loop and Rush Street and all over that part of Chicago.

Bye bye. And Paul's gonna do it, Sure. And I'm a let him do it right now.

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Ciao.

So,

so, Paul, I've given you a lot to stew on here. I won't,

you know, jump on you, anymore.

Absolutely. I appreciate it. Drink a And do you Do you go

give you a drink of water out of a fire hydrant?

Yeah. Go ahead.

Sure.

And to your case in point, you know, I wanted to take action on several different things like the American National

and,

you know,

I've got a little,

interesting story for you in just a second. But but the reason I haven't is because there's been so much controversy about this is how you do it. And then some other group will tell you, no. You can't do it that way. They'll put you in jail. And then some other groups says, no. That group don't know what they're talking about. So

I've heard so many so much controversy. I haven't done anything at the moment. But,

but I get it. So,

I've been an entrepreneur

most of my life, and I've had my hands in several different things. And for a while, we,

we had an automotive shop here in Louisville,

and,

it was so amazing. We were building these cars that actually got one of them is in a movie.

And,

we we were out at SEMA out in Vegas, and we were discovered by by,

Paramount. But, anyways,

we're building these cars. Well, we would start out with an Infiniti G35

body,

as a donor car, but then we would totally redesign the whole thing. We would just use the chassis.

And so after we got done,

we couldn't use the Infiniti VIN number anymore, so we would apply for an MSO number.

And so when the car was done, if you ordered a car from us, you said, I wanna build this car. I either want a convertible or hardtop. I want a v 6, a v 8, twin turbo. Whatever you want, we would build it. We built one for steel O'Neil. But, anyways,

the interesting thing is is

when we would deliver that car to you, Roger, it would have an MSO number. But I never realized till I started being on these calls or listening to David Stray.

Like, oh my god. I should do that with my own. I should do that with my own cards. Like, I coulda had a VA, you know. And so it's wild that that we would do that. And then I used to also be,

I used to be a partner in an Indian motorcycle dealership.

And when all those Indians would come to us,

they would have MSOs.

And then we would go down to the local licensed bureau here in Kentucky and register them. It's just like, I didn't even think, like, what the fuck were we doing?

I actually know this is Excuse my language. I apologize. I

but I I was like, oh my god. After this call, the or, you know, after being on these calls for several years, it's like or listening to David Strait or whatever. It's like I'm thinking, I what was I thinking? You know?

So I've experienced it from the other side of the pond. You know? Well,

okay. Well, I would tell you, obviously, you've been listening to mister Strait. I don't know if what other ones, but most of those people, in fact, all of them that I've ever come in contact with really don't know what they're dealing with. And the key reason is the same way that Mark Levin and and Robert Barnes yesterday didn't understand.

You're dealing with the feudal system. If you don't understand that, you don't understand anything of what's going on, and you'll never do anything but shadow box with it. Okay?

So it is the key ingredient.

So you could go back and ask any of those people, do you understand that you're dealing with the feudal system? And if they

try and criticize or whatever, that they're not somebody you wanna follow. K? I mean, David Strait is still putting out admiralty and merchant mercantile

law

and,

maritime law. He's,

he's

just just pulling the same old David Strait stuff. Julie sent me an article about somebody he'd screwed over just the other day. So I'd be very cautious of all those people. And should you wanna follow them, and that's your choice. Okay?

You need to ask them that question. Do you know and understand

that you're dealing with the feudal system? Because if they don't understand the system they're in or the system of law that's being used at them against them, they're never gonna get anywhere, and that's exactly where those folks have gotten.

Yes. Well We get refugees trying to do my own research.

Well, that's good. You should. Oh, okay. I'll do my own research too because

we're all here. Yeah.

Well, I encourage everybody in here. So go here's where this comes from. Go look at it. And the reason for that

is when you go look at it with your own eyes and read it, see it's not Roger telling you something on the radio. It's yours now. Correct. Okay? And when you make that information

yours,

you make the whole deal yours.

So it's a part of Correct. See,

you're going to become I don't know when. I don't know how fast. But at some point, if you internalize this information,

you get empowered.

K? And you'll get to empower a place,

maybe hopefully,

where not one son of a bitch that puts on a pair of pants on this earth scares you. K?

And so it's just Yeah. It's a process.

It doesn't happen overnight.

There's a transition,

and it directly depends

upon how well you learn and have command of the information.

Not every jot, every kittle, but do you understand it? Can you stand in a spot and either regurgitate it to somebody and educate them, or if somebody challenges your position,

defend your position?

Because you have to be, as judge Lorna Hand said, an appellate level judge, to defend one's rights, I'm paraphrasing,

to defend one's rights, one has to be a belligerent claimant. Well, you can't be a belligerent claimant in this arena if you don't understand what they've done and how they've done it and can defend it. Okay? So those are the 2 things. And this is the other part.

When and if this thing falls,

we've got to be the people out there with the correct information

to help those who are looking to rebuild.

This is what happened.

This is why it went south.

You know, that type of a thing. So those are the three reasons that you really internalize

the information. It's all for you. But in doing so, you become re empowered in the process. And it's fantastic.

You could you can hear us, Paul, listening to some of the people on here that call in and these

situations like, well, the one that happened in your state. We had a female, Maryland, in Frankfurt. How far away are you from Frankfurt?

Oh, maybe 60 miles.

Alright. Was you in Frankfurt? About 67

miles. I come to Frankfurt quite often because when I take my documents to the Court of Appeals,

I do not use the postal system for many reasons.

I personally deliver it. So it it's about an hour and a half from where I'm at. Well, she lives there, so you might run across Marilyn on one of your trips. And she, put everybody on notice. See, the back end is you not only tell the feds this, who you've got to tell, but then you go back and you weaponize your position

for your state and local area. And you and you do it with the state AG

and your local chief police sheriff, etcetera. Well, then she did that. She's a very good student.

And, the Frankfurt police

wrote her a nice letter and said, well, since you've expatriated,

you need to bring your concealed carry permit by. And she goes, hon.

She calls calls the show,

and they also tell her to to contact the FBI,

which she attempted to do. She called. They wouldn't return the call. She wrote them a letter and they wrote back and said, we don't have anything to do with this. And so, finally,

somebody at the police department,

with their discussions back and forth figured out that she had not expatriated,

which is a expensive and time consuming process through the state department where you have to already have the passport

of the country you're expatriating

to. So you gotta go all that, which she didn't do any of that because she repatriated.

She didn't expatriate.

So finally, somebody at the police station and the law department

figured it out, and she just had to do 1 or 2 things. And the guy says, well, you can keep your concealed carry permit. And I told her to tell him that I don't need your stinking permit in the first place.

So, anyway, that happened right down the road from you. K? So, we've got some Now is there a way to get a hold of that, Marilyn? Does she have a contact a way to contact her? I don't think I have her email or anything. It's just a caller and a student, and I don't know. We hadn't heard from her. I don't know if she's still listening to the shows or not. And I don't know if all the old students that go through here still listen. Shame on them if they don't

because we're always uncovering stuff here that we didn't know or understand when they got exposed to this.

But that seems to be the

way that things happen, and I understand that things are have been very unsettling with inflation and high prices. And people,

got a hitch in their giddy up and all the other stuff. People get busy. Their lives change. Whatever.

But, I would encourage all old students to listen to the show as often as they can

just to keep up on their freedom. You know, I mean, my friend I've had my

go ahead.

Oh, I enjoy the networking, you know. If if, you know, the Bible says that, you know, 2 or more people, you know, it's always good to have people in your community that you can that can support you and you can support them as

well. Well, Paul, that's one of the beauties of this platform is we all do that as part of the game here.

And but the base rule is to show is for new students.

Now sometimes there's a law. There's not new students for around or not anybody that's got questions. And when those things happen, my we may teach something

important like,

how the,

the Roman civil law turned from the just civil to the just jinsum or the law of the foreigner.

Same thing that's happened to us with the United States code or things like that or discuss current events or whatever.

But, really, the show is designed for new people to help get everybody

on the same page. Now here's a phenomena that happens,

I think,

is that this is a process, not an event.

And so

as you go forward, your thinking and understanding

becomes clearer and clearer and clearer.

So you

may have heard something before,

but it was your state that wasn't ready to receive it in that perspective.

And now when you hear a second or a third time, you've grown,

and all of a sudden you get the other perspective much more easily. So there's all kinds of things like that that are going on.

I've been doing this for Comment.

About 15 years. Just a second. I'll get you, mister d.

About 15 years, and I would tell you that to my knowledge,

to anybody reporting to me and going, Roger, this happened,

There's never been one single blowback from federal government.

The problem we have occasionally

are traffic oriented crap in local jurisdictions

where there's no consistency

from one county to the next at times.

Tom, here's one of our good, listeners.

Mister d, how are you doing?

Alrighty.

I just I was,

kind of I kinda chuckled when,

Paul said that he was listening going to people, and one one group was telling them, no. You know, that's not the right way. I have the right way, and then you go to the other one. No. No. No. That guy's not right. I'm the right way.

And I went through all that,

you know, back when I started this in 1980 when I got involved in this.

I just went from group to group to group to, you know, all kinds of stuff. And, you know, everybody,

you know, there was too many chiefs and too few Indians, and everybody thought that their way was the right way and that everybody else was wrong. And I tried like crazy to bring groups together and try to, you know, merge 3, 4, 5 groups together and but all the, the people that were running those, they didn't wanna cede

to anybody else and try to get along. So I just, you know, I finally just gave up trying to do it and just did my own thing. And then I met Roger,

and that was the awakening. Because for years, I've been looking for

how was it that the the government was putting a rope around our neck and yanking on it anytime they wanted.

And every time I heard something from somebody I had friends of mine who were following Erwin's shift, and I told them I said, you do what he tells you in that book. You're going to jail, and 2 of them went to jail.

And,

you know, just crazy. You know? Yeah. You may die handcuffed to a jail bed too.

Sorry, Erwin. And,

Paul, this is just you know, I don't know any other way to put it because this is my personal experience.

You can query a number of people on the platform here.

This is life changing information for the right person.

Absolutely.

And it is the key. You.

It's the key to everything.

All the problems are addressed here,

and that's why they're so scared of it. You know?

We'll get there. We'll see. I feel like Martin was Martin Luther King's,

day there last,

last Monday, and I can't help but think of his, I've been to the mountaintop.

You know that speech.

And,

Right. And that's and that's what I you know, the only reason I know this is because this is a continuation

in my contributions

of a 100 year plus

research project by 3 men. 3 men have put over a 100 years research into these things to be able to come in. Well, I was just

tapped for whatever reason to be the one that grabbed the gold ring. My teacher should have known it For whatever reason, their myriad,

they didn't,

and I was the one that was tapped to, put it together.

K? And I don't take credit for it. I'd never done this if I hadn't had John w Benson as a law teacher.

The other, teacher, John Glenn Ambort,

is still alive. He's with us. Lives up in North Dakota.

He is a brilliant guy,

and has literally won cases at the Supreme Court of the United States.

So anyway fascinating. Those 2 guys, I give all the credit to really.

Now I was the right person, and I think that's evidenced by the fact that 30 something years ago,

1992,

there was only 1200

students. They only the IRS only let them go for 6 months,

which tells you they were on to something right off because otherwise, hell, they don't move that fast on anything.

Okay? Well, 6 months they let them teach and they and they busted all their offices. And,

there was 1200 students that went through,

and paid to go through the course. It was $1500

money back. No questions asked if you wanted to. They'd

file the,

3 years back taxes for you. What we can, help people do. Now we know how to do it correctly.

And,

they get a percentage of that. So I did that

and I was gonna ask them for my money back because I couldn't afford it, but I wanted the information.

And at the end of that weekend,

I could not with any kind of a clear conscience

go ask them for that money back.

K? Even though I didn't understand what I've been through,

and my head was spinning like it is with most of you. First time you you were presented with this, but I knew there was something of great substance here just like you do. Just like whoever's listening and not saying anything. Just like they do. When this crosses the right person's path,

you know there's something here even though you don't understand it. K?

And,

so it's been at that time, I figured there's maybe 300,000,000

people in the country. So out of those 300,000,000,

there are 1200 that paid to go through. And out of those 1200 that went through the course, I was the only one that took it further.

And look what I found.

Sure.

Okay. So we're just damn lucky that they didn't snuff it out, which is what they were trying to do with that raid.

And they're like, all these things happened, and I just couldn't get it off my mind. I'll tell you what kept driving me,

really, was that, 26 CFR 1.1 dash 1 a on the, jurisdiction of the IRS and where they identify us as nonresident aliens.

Man, I could not get that I could not get that out of my mind. And just they went to a lot of trouble to do this right here. There's something here worth digging into, and that's what kept me going for a long time.

There you go.

Well and then I'm sure you're familiar with the movie or the documentary

Freedom to Fascism

by Aaron Russo.

Of course. And then, of course, there's there's there's some,

concerns out there that, you know, maybe

how Aaron

passed on was not act I mean, was not natural.

Could be. Don't know.

I do know that he's interviewing that guy Cohen, the IRS commissioner, and they start talking in Yiddish. And he and what he's saying is you can't do anything about it. Bullshit, mister Cohen.

We unravel the whole thing. You

slave and you said you

crap.

Satan is crap. You're right. You're right. So Yeah. So, anyways, great deal of gratification here, and I had my trials and tribulations.

You know, I never had I never had a tax problem till I met John and Glenn. And then I had one pretty quick. And it ended up they stole $35,000

at my house closing.

And so I'm just getting

a rebate.

Like, should you go through this

and pull yourself out of the IRS, pal? I'll I'll take a dollar off their account, but please don't forget,

I have compound interest and penalties too.

Yeah. I,

I've been very blessed.

Somebody,

pointed me in the right direction,

oh, probably a decade ago, 10 years plus.

And I I filed with the IRS that I no longer wanna participate

in their voluntary tax. And then every

few years, I'll,

I'll re

I'll resend that in.

Mhmm. And,

as I stated, one of my clients

chose to take taxes out on me and,

thinking they were doing their civic duty.

And so

when they when they,

when they sent me my,

w two form, they didn't wanna do it 1099 even though I'm a legitimate business.

They refused to do so. So when I sent the IRS,

again, I resent them the fact that I do not wanna participate

in their volunteer tax and and listed everything

in the document.

Right. I got a check back, the whole the whole amount. Well, technically, you can't they don't they don't have to recognize that. And the reason for it is because it's the feudal system.

Until you volunteered out with the lord of the manor that's in charge of all matters concerning citizenship

and this ambiguity,

and that's the secretary of state.

Then you go back and notify them, and the notifications

got teeth. You may have slipped through the crack, but see, this is the big point that John and Glenn missed

and the reason the IRS could. Because all we did was send our paperwork to the IRS too and filed it in the local property records office because they did not understand

that you had to sever the relationship with the secretary

of state first. And I've been I venture to say, if we'd have known that key component

35 years ago,

we may live in a totally different country today. But they didn't. I understand. I was the one I was the one that found it down the line and put things together,

and I had to actually sit down and explain it to them,

after I figured it out. And,

it's just been a hell of a road and,

I feel so blessed, man. Just so blessed.

I I feel so empowered,

and,

to have this kind of command and and be able to put Excalibur in y'all's hands. I mean, I just dig it.

Anybody on the on the call, that in the forum,

that would like to ask Paul anything or comment?

May I, lady Linda Louise? May I? Yes. You may, you sweet thing, and I'd be offended if you didn't.

Well, Paul, I wanna say welcome, and I want you to know that last December 9, 2023,

I came across,

God's Trump card.

And it was at that time that I encouraged the republic

to,

entertain becoming national. So

the admin, which I'm a part of, there's 5 of us, were all nationals except for 1. You're not your voice sounds very familiar.

Yeah. Well, I used to do the blessings,

at at the end of the call, but the,

they stayed up too late, and I need to get my rest. So I can't Correct. I can't stay up that late. So all things considered, I was delighted to hear that you heard Roger on the republic call a couple of times,

and I am so delighted that when you throw this pebble into the lake

and, you know, the rings just keep going and going and going, you don't know how many people you're gonna influence.

And when I became a patriot, it was I was introduced in 2019,

the difference between private and public. Prior to that, I didn't even entertain the thought. And then the gal that introduced me was Lorena, Lorena James. She's been on a couple of the calls lately, and she introduced Daniel,

our new newbie who's on the call lately.

And those 2 folks did not do it the Rogers Sales way, they did it some other way. So they're still, not sure that they're designated as nationals because they did not do it the Rogers Sales way.

So, they're going to do a privacy act to find out if they are indeed nationals.

Otherwise, I'm gonna coach them to how to get it done the Rogers Sales way. So I'm very indebted to you, Roger. I love you to pieces, and I welcome you, Paul,

and I bid you,

blessings, and I yield.

Blattery,

flattery,

charge my battery.

Thank you, sweetie.

I just wanna know how much Roger's paying or, you know, to say all those nice things.

You that that's undisclosed.

We have a, do not disclose agreement over things like that. Actually, Paul, I was inspired by Tom d of the IBM network when Paul,

when Tom Dee shared his testimony,

I just had to share my I yield. Yeah. I appreciate it. Tom Tom's when Tom wait. Tom is was put in charge of RBN after

John Stapp Miller died, and he's been doing that down there in Texas. And so we finally got hooked up through some people nudging, you know, you need to listen to this, listen to this. And so I get on with a call with Tom and he goes, I've been looking for this for 40 years.

And it is. This is the question right here. What gives that bureaucrat over there the power to make a man made law and enforce it on me? How does that happen?

That's the question. And now we know the answer. Yeah.

So, anyway, the affidavit,

Paul, there's a sample affidavit,

if you wanna use it. And,

you you can find that on the website. I'm not somewhere over there, Paul's got it stuck up there. And, there's 2 paragraphs.

I can pretty well recite them to you. There's no wiggle room left.

None. Okay?

And let somebody point it out to me, and we'll close it.

I, Paul from Kentucky,

do solemnly swear under the penalty of perjury of the laws of the United States of America.

My intent to be a national

with god given constitutionally protected capital r rights

and not a voluntary surf

in a condition of servitude

under the scope and purview of the 14th amendment.

No wiggle room there.

2nd paragraph.

As a national,

I am listed at 26 CFR 1.1 dash 1 a as a nonresident

alien.

Nonresident

this is deceptively

described.

I am nonresident

to the irresidency

of the 14,

14th amendment,

an alien from its jurisdiction.

Go get that notarized.

Start papering people up.

Awesome. Thank you. And I'll and that's on your website or a website?

Yeah. It's on the matrix docs, and it's not 31 pages

like David Strait. And we actually had the post of the, passport office tell one of our guys that he read it. He pulled up his profile because he wanted to know if he's listed as a national.

A lot of our people get real anal about that. And he come back and the guy calls him back and says, oh, yeah. Yeah. You're listed as a national. And then he pulls up that affidavit

I just read to you. And he goes,

wow. That's really good.

He said, we don't have any problem filing these 1 page things. He said, but it's those people that send us books that get shoved to the back of the desk. Okay? And then he said this. True. He said, we're getting so many of these lately.

They're having special classes for employees

on how to process them correctly.

Roger? Yeah. Who's that? Yeah. Oh, yeah. There's we get female and a guy here. I'm gonna go with the guy, Julie. Go first and you. Yes, ma'am. Yes, sir. Yeah. This is this is Chris in California.

Hey, Chris. Enough for me with second that second paragraph you just recited.

Would you recite those words again, and then I'll look for it? Okay. Well, it's on a sample affidavit on the website.

And, it says as a national,

I am

a nonresident

to the residency,

an alien

from the jurisdiction

of the deceptively

identified

phrase,

nonresident

alien.

Oh,

you you

see if I can get it again. I'm doing this from memory, Chris.

As a national,

I'm nonresident

to the residency and alien from federal jurisdiction.

This

term is deceptively,

deceptively

stated at 26

CFR

1.1

dash 1

parenthesis

small a

as a nonresident

alien.

Okay. Now that's what you're gonna send to the secretary of state,

then you're going to send it to IRS.

Right. K? Got

it. So that paragraph is

right in there specifically

for those sweet, sweet people.

I'll check and see if I did it the right way. If I didn't, I'll do it again.

Chris, this is Paul. Paul, this is Chris, the guy with the music background.

Oh, hey, Chris.

I'd love to connect with you sometime

and,

compare notes.

Yeah. That Yeah. Both of you are new. Go ahead, Chris. Yeah. You could, get a hold of me, I guess.

Well, let me ask you this, Chris. I'm I'm currently driving.

Is there a way I could give you my email address and email me, and I'll be happy to forward you my contact info?

Yeah. You could do that or Merica Merica could put you together on Telegram. If you don't feel bad about giving out your email address, Paul, I don't have any problem with it. I'm I'm I'm okay with it at the moment. Alright. Well My e get your pencil. Okay.

Okay. For Do you know? Chris. Get yeah. Yeah. Get your pencil sharp. I'm just telling you. Get where you can write it down. Go ahead. Okay.

Yeah. Okay. You ready, Chris? Yes. Okay. My email address is p as in Paul,

taylor, t a y l o r,

m as in Mike, k as in kilo, g as in,

m as in Mike, k as in kilo, t as in Tom, g as in golf,

and,

at g mail dot com. So abbreviation for p taylor marketing atgmail.com.

Got it. And then the subject header,

just list, you know, Roger Sales call or something like that. Yeah. Sure. That'll be good. Perfect. Thank you. I'm glad you were here, Chris, because we were just speaking about you.

Music business chat.

Okay.

Alright. Groovy, Chris. Anything else, Chris? We haven't heard from you. I haven't heard you haven't said anything in a a few days. Everything going alright in your progress

here? Yeah. Everything's going good. Everything's going good. Okay. Yeah. We have a we have snow. We have today.

Oh, you did? Yeah. Snow in California. It's not common.

Yes. I'm sure it's not.

It's gone, though. It goes goes away pretty quick.

Right. Well, you're lucky you didn't get that snow that doesn't melt, you know, that burns.

Oh, right. Really.

No.

Oh, maybe some of that crap will get straightened out. Anyway,

well, that's cool, Chris. Yeah. Well, what? Pensacola,

Florida had 9 inches the other night. Oh, really? Pensacola,

Florida.

Mhmm. Probably the most snow they've ever had in recorded history.

So let's see. Got a few minutes left. Anybody else out there have anything to say to Paul or make any comments?

You wanna tell him what a terrible slave driver I am?

Well, they're pretty quiet. Either they all left or just they're

gobsmacked, I guess. Well, they were kinda crickets earlier, Roger. They're Well, you just The first couple of calls I was on, I couldn't get a word in edgewise that's why I remained silent.

The last call, I barely snuck in at the last minute.

And then today, I noticed it was kinda crickets that's why I spoke up pretty freely. So that's amazing. Well, good. Well, you well, you've been the call today. So if you wanna put it that way, that's good.

And, you know, I've and I I know a lot of the folks, that have been around here for a while always agree.

You can't go over the, excuse me, the basics enough.

The only way you learn anything is drill, practice, rehearse. And as you're doing this and you're internalizing it and getting able to connect dots that you couldn't connect before, and then you grow, and then you hear that again, and you go, oh, wow. I didn't realize that part of it. You know? It just happens. So,

that,

the

you want to make this information yours second nature. You wanna live it and the,

the degree of your freedom, Paul,

will be directly correlated

with how well you internalize and master this information.

A direct correlation there because all of that does is strengthen your confidence

and connect you more with the higher power that you, well, have been cheated from, quite frankly.

Yep. You've been cheated from it. That's awesome. So it's a wonderful deal and you're very special because this doesn't resonate with everybody. And as you go out and expose it to people, you'll find that out firsthand.

I agree. I agree. And I can totally relate with what Tom was saying earlier.

I don't know why all these groups can't get together and work together, but it Well, it's because God told us, he said we're stiff neck people. And I'll let Mark Twain,

I'll I'll let Mark Twain explain it to you. And he said it's easier to fool a man than tell him he's been fooled. True. True that.

And these people, like the aforementioned

David Strait, well, hell, they've made a business out of it. They're not gonna admit that anything that I give away has anything to do with what they're trying to sell you. And they're not selling that stuff cheap either,

necessarily. Nope. You're right. Yep. You're right. So well, they've made a business out of it. They're a p a y triad.

So here, I got this information.

I got this platform. It's public platform.

Anybody can come on here 6 days a week. Tell me I'm full of crap, tell me my stuff doesn't work, tell me they were damaged, etcetera, etcetera. And nobody ever does that.

So we're proof in the pudding.

15 years with no without a blemish,

I think that's a sure thing. K?

Hey, Roger. And you start well, yes yes, ma'am. Is that Nancy?

It is.

Hey, Nancy. How you doing?

I just have a comment.

Okay. Good.

Your with your, in regards to accounting records with your nondisclosure

agreement with lady Linda

on the fees that you pay her to compliment you. Yes. Just make sure you don't write

just make sure you don't write them down as legal fees even though they are legal fees. I wouldn't dare do it, especially if either one of us were in New York.

Right. Oh, that's right. You don't have to do any of that counting because you're national. Anyway

National. That was just my Oh, your 2¢.

How are you doing down there in Virginia?

Good? Well, I'm doing I'm doing good.

Julie, I you were wanting to say something a minute ago, and I I forgot about you. I will revisit.

But, okay.

Good deal. Well, Julie, what's your input here?

Well, first, I wanted to just say welcome, Paul from Kentucky,

to the group.

It was great hearing it was really great hearing you today,

and,

I'm gonna I'll be emailing you as well.

I wanted to I have 2 questions for you, Roger. The first one is, could you spell those words,

those legal words where you when you were talking about God's trump card and equivocation, you you said Roman law changed from and you said Jewish

Jus, jus, which is law in Latin.

Okay.

And civil, c I v I l e.

And that was kind of the common law of the Roman Empire in the first 200 years.

And they they were ruled by what they call the 12 tablets.

And none of the tablets have ever been found, and we don't know what was on them, but we see them referred to when you read back in those those days. Okay?

So that was kind of a their their court system was

somewhat formal like our common law courts,

and and

and they had to go through this formal system

to get a judgment before they could achieve a remedy.

K?

That's critically important to understand because that's basically the common law. So they had this very formal where the common law

hello, man. That was good though.

The the common law based on due is based on due process.

And and it see, there's 2 here. This is for Paul.

This is the influence of Brent Winters, by the way. There's 2 schools of law. One is nature and and the law of the land, nature and nature's god,

written and unwritten,

and the other is the law of the city.

And that's all based no matter what facet of it is based on the Babylonian merchant code and contract.

That's the Roman civil law. That's,

the Napoleonic

code. The the the guy from,

the guy from Germany, Bismarck,

and that is all this

no matter what they label it, it's basically

okay.

Somebody wanna stop that, or you want you you wanna hear this, or you wanna hear me?

Paul,

can you see if you can share There's gotta be a way to mute. Trying to figure out where the hell that's coming from.

I gotta sneak in suspicion.

It's not me. I I left my drums at home.

What else did you get for Christmas? I can't drive a truck and play drums at the same time.

But that is kinda rude.

What what else did you get for Christmas? There it went. Okay. It's really important.

I I just wanted I didn't wanna try and talk over this. This is important. Stuff we're talking about here.

So that was the just Seville

and the law of nature, nature's god is law of the land, and the law of the city is all the law of the city is designed for an outcome.

The law of the land

is designed to have due process

and if the process is followed

the outcome will be correct no matter which what it is. Okay? So those are your two differences

in the two bodies of law. 1 is outcome oriented, 1 is process oriented. Alright?

The justice bill was processed

to the show. It just had an unmuted

elevator music

interference.

Okay. Well, I didn't hear it. But, anyway,

so So, Roger, you said you said, Roger, you said the law of the land was designed for due process, and the law of the city is is designed for outcome. Is that what you said?

Yes. The all the law of this legislature and these

regulations and all that stuff, they're outcome oriented.

They want you they wanna have a specific outcome and they design them for that. The law, this, the common law, law of nature, nature's god, emphasizes

the process.

And the fact that if the process is followed correctly,

the outcome will be correct no matter what it is.

So those are the 2 schools of law and the 2 schools of thought behind them. And, Roger, to your case in point,

in many of my I've got 5 cases out there that I'm, you know, working.

In one of those cases, I was charged with a felony.

And,

because

there was due process, proper due process,

that case was dismissed

due to no evidence. But in all these other cases, my pain

and,

what I,

brought to the table yesterday

is that, yes, the out I mean, here I bring forth

a smoking gun and a videotape

and testimony

and witnesses, and the judge dismisses the case. It it because, again, it's a predetermined

outcome that we're gonna dismiss the case regardless what the evidence is. Okay. Well, okay. Well, these are just all these examples,

there was failure to due process, and I yield. Well, that those are the 2, and I never understood that before Brent came on. Brent's just a national treasure. He's written all kinds of books,

common law. He's translated

been translating his own bible for 40 years.

He's just a joy a joy and a a a real honor to be able to not only know him, but to do these shows with him for over 10 years. So he's on every Friday, Paul, and with your spiritual background,

you've already shown us you'll like him a lot. Okay?

So,

because you'll learn stuff you ain't even dreamed of listening to that guy.

So anyway, here's what happened with Rome.

Rome started out with that first 200 years of this common law, basically.

Well, as Rome grew into more of an empire,

they conquered foreign lands. And when you conquer foreign land, the merchants of that land wanna go to the center of the new empire because that's where the action is, and that's what they did. And when they did, they brought with them their Babylonian law. And in the Babylonian law, there's a very easy way instead of the formal

trial way, there's a very easy way to achieve remedy by writing the remedy into the contract,

which is what they do. And they're called self help remedies.

Now, Paul, if I said, can you tell us about self help remedies?

You might not know too much about that. But if I said, hey, Paul. Can you tell us about lien levy garnishment

and seizure? You probably know something about that. Okay?

So that's what the foreign merchants brought was a easy way to remedy

because the remedy is written into the contract.

And you agree that if you don't pay your car payment on the 61st day, they can come grab the car. They don't have to go to court. They don't have to get on a docket. They don't have to wait to get a jury seated. They don't have to wait to have a trial and decision to register the decision

and then get the remedy.

So over a period of 200 years,

the attorney general in Rome was called a praetor.

And they only Rome understanding the power of that position

wouldn't let one stay in power more than a year. They changed them every year. Well, generally the new praetor would follow the body of decisions and law that the previous

praetors

had followed and not make drastic changes.

But under the color of law,

that a Roman citizen was a foreign merchant,

and the Roman citizen going to the praetor and say, give us these remedies, give us these remedies.

Over a period of 200 years, they incorporated

self help remedies

into the existing

Roman code

and with it came the Babylonia merchant code

and now it's called the just

gensom,

Julie. That's g e n. Hi, Duncan.

G e n. It's in the book. It's in the book.

I tell this in the in the back part of the book and it it but it means foreigner.

So we changed it from the law of the citizen,

just Seville,

to the law of the foreigner,

just Jensen.

Well, guess what the Roman code is today?

Law of merchant.

The uniform commercial. No. The the the United States code. UCC.

The UCC. No. No. USC.

United States code. I mean, USC. Yeah. Those 50 titles

with the agency

code of federal regulations

underneath them is the same thing. It's a combination

of what's common law and what's this merchant law. And the way you tell if you wanna look at the 50 titles,

I think it's I don't remember if it's in every volume or just volume 1. But right there when you open the cover first page or 2, it will tell you it'll list all 50 titles.

It'll tell what they oversee subject matter, and it will tell you whether they're positive

or non positive

law.

It'll tell you whether it's the common law or the law of the city.

And then that goes into the statutes

and underneath it the agency

that's in that's assigned that subject matter

gets the legislation

and they reinterpret

it

and come out with regulations.

Here's the deep state

right here.

The regulatory

agencies

and the crooked ass

bureaucrats that run them. And what you do when you file this paperwork

is you remove yourself from their authority

because they can only what they're doing is called public policy. You've heard that phrase, Julie? Did you ever know what it was? Did you ever ask yourself, what the hell is public policy?

Well, I always got confused, Roger, between the USC, the statute,

the regulations, and the public policies. I've seen the public policies, but it's just so confusing which one supersedes which one and which one triumphs over the other.

Well, my question is who the hell are they for? Well, they're for the serves. Otherwise, the man can't make man made laws and enforce them on you.

So you get out, you're not public anymore.

Public policy doesn't apply to you. Private policy applies to you. You know, here's another way to look at this, it's pretty interesting too. When we founded the country

we used public law, the common law, and it was also used for private purposes.

What they've done is they switched that around.

We now have the UCC

private law, but it's used for public purposes.

They always just switch things.

It's this equivocation

thing again.

Everything in their scam is based on that principle of these key things

being defined and the world set on a opposite

direction, a 180 degrees. That's why all of your legislation

is always like the Patriot Act is the Anti Patriot Act. The Health Act is the we wanna kill you act.

You know, all that stuff is all the basis of everything.

So, Roger, which one triumphs? Is the UCC triumph, the USC, or the or vice versa?

Well, I guess it demands depends on who's in power, doesn't it? See, this is the battle.

This is the battle that we've been fighting since the beginning of time.

Lex Rex, the law of the king

versus the common law. And we're still fighting it. We what do you wanna do? Well, you followed all your paperwork. So you made your decision, didn't you? I wanna be over here under God's laws. That's what you told them. And they hadn't answered back and said, no. We are not gonna let you yet, have they?

Nope. Nor will they. Why not? And so Roger Because it's their choice. Because it's your choice.

They've just hidden it from you by getting you scared, shaking knees in the corner that some SWAT team's gonna come through the door. Well, that's gone.

So congratulations.

And listen, Julie, I'm well aware that you gotta grow into this.

Okay? And that's why I tell all of you folks this is a process.

I mean, how far along the road are you now than you were the first time you and I ever talked? Or the next time or the time after that. It's just an understanding that comes to you. Some people get it quicker than others, I guess. Some people don't get it at all. Some people get it, and they're scared as hell. And they say, no. No. I would never wanna do that because they don't realize that it's their choice

and that they've been programmed into thinking how powerful these guys are when the only thing that they've got is you saying yes to those two questions and signing something. That's all they've got.

And when that's brought out, it's broad and they know it. So you never hear a little peep out of them. And, Roger, how long after you file your affidavit,

of citizenship

evidence, and you get the green card back, should you wait before you file a, freedom of privacy act or whatever to see how they have you designated?

I I think you'll probably have that. You could do either 1 Secretary of State in general or passport, see what's in your passport file. I don't know if you've reapplied your passport and put the application in there.

You I don't know. I don't know what an exact date is,

however long you think it takes the bureaucracy to get their act together. That's why the passport thing is so effective

because you know

if they issued you that card or passport book, that that affidavit was part of the process

because you got the documents.

Can you still act do the FOIA or privacy act for just your affidavit to see how they Yeah. Have you designated? You could what you do is probably apply. I I don't know if the state department and the passport division

have separate FOIA officers.

I would think probably not. So find out who the state department's FOIA officer is and just do a privacy action to what's in your file.

I imagine they that their umbrella

would oversee passport also. Okay? But, Julie, we've never had an example of it not being in there. I mean, by and large, the bureaucracy

works correctly.

It's the people that run the stuff that pull all the shenanigans.

The rank and file

do what like your guy said, we're having classes on this because we're getting so many of them so that our our our clerks know how to process them correctly.

Now

also, you, the it was considered received.

If you got it stamped at the post office

with either a return receipt requested or just a stamp and ask them to give give it a a post office stamp, it's considered received

when that happens. Yeah. But I actually have the green card back now confirming that they actually got it. Okay. Well, great.

Technically, it they it received it the day you sent it. Okay? If you did that process.

So, and it's gonna take you a little while. You but, man, a couple of months from now, you think

you think you're strong now. Give it a couple of months.

K?

It's gonna shock you, your own self, at how much you've grown and how much you've gone through this empowerment process.

I can see it in you already. See?

Yes. There's Larry, I think. Yeah, Larry.

Yeah. Julie asked the question, you know, which set of laws

triumphants over what other set of laws like the UCC, the United States Code and that all depends on who you are contracting with. For example,

if

you go buy an automobile,

there's a contract there that's put in place,

and so the the, the UCC, the Uniform Commercial Code would be governing that contract.

Correct.

It depends on what you want. Larry is correct. Let me rephrase it. It depends on what you wanna agree to.

Comment. Gotcha?

Well, yes, sir. Of course, you can comment.

Did, I sent you and Paul and Mark,

a copy

or a link to that, Robert Gouve, the one the attorney that has been following Trump's,

lawsuits since they all all started.

Did you get a chance to listen to that?

No. I didn't. I'm sorry.

Okay. That's alright. He went over the, he went over this,

citizenship

thing word by word in the lawsuit, and and he's come, you know, the same conclusion that,

that Trump's

executive order is legal and lawful. And it was really interesting because he did bring up, Wong Wong Kim Ark and,

what was the other case they had he had him. Anyway, it's it's it's not long. It's not a long listen, but it's it's really intriguing that the Oh, I saw it. Turning.

Okay.

If I had got if I had seen it, we'd have probably played it yesterday too, but maybe we can not listen to it. And you'd you'd said you sent it to Paul too?

Yeah. I sent it to Paul, you, Paul, and Mark. So Okay.

Yeah. Mark's been sick as a dog. That'd be a good lawyer to get ahold of that. Yeah. I know. I heard heard him the other day.

This would be an attorney to get ahold of to, try to, you know, broach this subject with him and see what he has to say

about being an astronaut. But, is is Merca is Merca here? Well, I hadn't heard her today. Merc, you with us? She's probably listening. She's on. Yep. Right there. Front and center. Yes, ma'am.

Yeah. I tried I tried to send you an email yesterday and, or the day before, and it said your your mailbox is full. Maybe I got the wrong email address.

Can you send, tell me the email for your,

republican

again because I think I sent you one and it came back.

Okay. So

Tom.

Let me see. And then check your check. Tom at republic broadcasting

Tom at republic broadcasting

dot org, I think. Isn't that it, Tom?

Yeah. Yeah.

Tom, weird. That's the one I use. Yeah. Okay. Yeah.

Check your telegram too, Tom, because they sent you a message there too. Okay. Alright. I'll I'll go into there then. Yeah. I was just Okay. I was trying to send you something, and I forget now what it was. It was a few days ago. Alright. Thank you very much. Give you the alright. Talk to you later.

Okay. Good deal. How's,

how's Lula Belle doing there, Myrka? Did she freak out over the fires or anything?

They got those bloodhounds

Those bloodhounds got real sensitive smell. I imagine that smoke would. They do.

Yeah. Her nose is acting up a little bit, but

she's good. She's, Okay. But she's pretty sensitive. So, yeah, the the it's getting everybody, I think. The even though people,

are reacting to it. We've been kind of in a house fire one time and,

got out. Everybody got out, but we had to go to the hospital. And they for to check if you've got smoke inhalation,

which can kill you,

they put they go in and take blood,

but it's gotta be out of a artery.

And so I'm in the hospital with those little curtain things around you, and and whoever's getting it next to me is screaming like hell, man. And it's real painful. Hard for them to hit an artery. You know? And they come to me and say, you want I said, no. I'm not I'm not doing that. I'm alright.

I gotta help pretty quick. Okay?

So, anyway, I'm late. But those draws do hurt.

God. Drawing those those artery blood works hurt a lot of people. Yeah. Yep. Used to work in the phlebotomy. Hospital. Right? Yeah. Yep. Okay. We got a couple minutes left in the show, not many. About

1 and a half or 2. If you got anything

that you've just been dying to bring forward and you've been hesitant,

now's your time.

Hey, Roger. It's Jason.

Hey, Jason. Oh, well, hey, Jason.

How you doing?

I'm good. How are you is the question.

Good.

Got a quick got got a question. Could you explain to me how the states how and when the states became corporatized?

How that actually

played out?

Well, not really. This is, you know, almost all governments are corporations. That's nothing new. I know our our movement makes a big deal out of it. But,

they were probably

from

the first because

the federal government didn't have any form or shape until after the 14th amendment. Okay?

So,

I I think that in the bankruptcy

that they took possession of the states from a bankruptcy

point of view.

And they bankrupted the federal government,

but they got access to the states

and to us also

through that bankruptcy would be my guess, Jason.

Have you watched the Gene Schroeder tape yet? I have. Okay.

Well, there's a lot of information in there along those lines. I think the line of demarcation

is March 9th of 33.

Okay?

So,

you could also go back and look up s r look up s r

192,

I believe,

which was a senate resolution

about a month later

that talks about all the property being under their jurisdiction.

You might wanna look at that also. Okay. I got you.

So you're saying when they put when they pledged all of our lands against the national debt is when they basically corporatized us. Yep. That's what I think. I don't know for sure.

Never never really reached it. Have any documentation if we can point to it. Right? I don't. There may be. I just don't know it. I mean, we know they're corporate. I mean, but we just can't it's not, you know,

it's not as blatant as type of Well, I Okay.

I don't know the necessary

significance

of that that they're corporations, but we can talk about it at some point. I mean, they gotta be some structure, don't they?

Yeah. It just seems to me that that that that if that the states aren't functioning in their original capacity, that they're functioning Well, they're there. No. It's just veneered over. They're there

because a guy named John Ainsworth

for 15 plus years

ran an organization called North Carolina State.

He was the secretary of state. They had regular elections.

They did all the stuff in North Carolina. They would never gave them any problems about it. But the state of North Carolina

is different from North Carolina state,

but they're both there.

1 is vernier

over the other, The way I understand it, Jason. K? Got it. So

and and I asked, because I I I knew John. He's kinda left that by the wayside. He inherited some land up in Maine, and him and his wife moved up there, I heard.

But,

and I said, well, how, you know, how long you've been doing it? I don't know. 15 years. Well, how many people do you have? He said, 80.

I said, you don't have time. We don't have time to approach it that way.

Okay? Now and he finally came aboard on our 14th amendment stuff,

I heard through other folks. But,

yeah, there have been other states. I think Michigan tried that. Colorado

tried that. Some guys there, but those those are still there. It's just like the governor, and he wears both hats. You just never see him but with one on. He may not know there's another one there or the attorney general or the secretary of state. They all wear 2 hats.

But you've got to designate and tell them who you are for them to put that hat on to serve you. Does that make sense?

Yeah. It makes sense.

Okay. Well, listen. Today is a bad day to get all the time

for something specific to point to. I said, here here's where they did it, and I can't find it. I would imagine it's around March 9th 33, it'd be my guess, that they took them under their umbrella,

in bankruptcy,

which is extra constitutional.

It's not unconstitutional.

It's extra constitutional

because it's just something they've got allowances

for that they could still call constitutional,

and that's why this scheme has always passed court muster.

Okay? Roger, the the Schroeder video goes into all that detail.

Well, I thought it did. That's why I asked him about that, but he said he'd watched it. Evidently, he didn't get an answer that satisfied him out of that. Anyway, Jason, I've given you the best I've got. If you wanna come back, we can discuss it. If you wanna discuss it with the folks that are here, fine.

But I got, Tuesday, and we have a little lunch group together, and I don't like to be late. So I'm gonna dart out I'll go back and talk again.

Roger, I have one quick question. Thank you, Roger. Thank you.

Okay, Boris. Yeah. Who's the Chris, is that you?

Yes. Yeah. I I found your affidavit of citizenship evidence. The one we sent in was based upon what we heard. So I now found it that was down lower on your website. So anyway, I've got it.

Where it says your name. You mean signature?

Where is that where you sign your signature where you say your name? No. No. No. You'll you'll sign your signature, well, preferably in front of a notary down at the bottom. But, whatever your name is, I, Chris, from California,

do solemnly swear whoever you are. And then if you've got a very common name alright. Hold on. If you've got a very common name where you do sign your signature,

you might want to put if you've got a previous passport,

you might want to put that passport number. If you don't have one of those, you might wanna put your place of birth and date of birth and the last four digits of your Social Security number just to make sure they assign it to the right person. Yeah. We'll make sure of that. Okay. Thank you. Okay. You're welcome, man. I'll be back tomorrow So

we chime back in, and we'll I won't have to

coerce you to come on. We'll have somebody there with a question already.

So, I'll see y'all tomorrow. Have a great day, and, certainly, you can chat about that if you want

with everybody here.

And love each and everyone, and you can see tomorrow. Have a good day.

Thank you, Murren. Thanks, Fred. Have a great lunch.

Okay. So I'm sure we're okay.

To that student that was asking about

asking a question and Roger

answered it with

s r one ninety two. It's h j r one ninety two, house joint resolution.

H j r one ninety two?

Yes.

Okay.

Yeah. Said f s r, but he goes by memory

because of about things that he's learned long ago.

So it's it's h j r, house joint resolution.

HJR. We're not too Does does does it state there that they corporatize the states?

Or is it or is it just implied?

Well, that that's regarding the bankruptcy.

You have to read it. But as far as the states being

the the smallest states being veneered over,

I believe they did that with the dish the US district courts. So every state has a at least one district court, United States district

court, and some have

several.

Like, I think,

I think Michigan has 3 and

Florida has 3.

So they they've been neared over it with those districts.

That's how the federal government controls the state of with all of their administrative agencies

and their US attorneys

who enforce the laws of the United States

and all of their 4 hundred and, I think, 38

administrative agencies

which are on the federal register.

So that was in 38

1938?

I don't know exactly I'm not I'm not sure exactly when the U. S. District the U. S. Federal Districts were set up, but that'd probably be a good thing to research.

Okay. I believe it was George Washington did that

initially,

making each state a federal district a yield. So I've read I've read I've also read that the the the states

didn't officially become

corporate, their own, you know, state up corporations until they start till they implemented the UCC code.

And I don't know how valid that is, but that's I've read that. It was and and that was 52.

Right. 52. No. No. No. No. No. No. What the hell do you want?

Sorry. Sorry about that. Kitty is bothering me.

So I don't know how much validity that has, but it was since it was 5051

when they officially

came out officially with the UCC code, and 52 is when they started when it was adopted

or the states began to adopt.

You know, that's I I've just read that somewhere.

So I'm just trying to pin down exactly

a date and or, you know, because well, I've even when I go back and I look at, title 28 for federal government,

I can't I was I was trying to find I guess I need to look someplace else, but I could I was looking for a date when they actually published

title 28,

I guess,

a a a federal code where the federal government's corporatized.

I mean, I know it was in 18/71,

but I don't know when it got published and put the code.

Well, you can go through your congress critter or your senator and ask them, and they can go to the congressional

research office and ask them and get back to you if you wanna go

that route.

Yeah.

Is there is there a search engine someplace where you can go back and see see when

these when these codes first first

were published?

There is a

search feature in the congressional record,

research library,

but, I don't know if you can get your specific information. That's why I said you can go to your congress provider or your senator and

ask them that question, and they'll go to them and get the right answer.

Okay. Yeah. The congress critter. That's right.

Okay. Appreciate it.

And I also I I guess I should have mentioned the National Archives has a research,

search page also, but I don't know if you can find it via that way.

I think I searched on archives, and I couldn't find anything.

It's been about a year ago.

I have a question.

Can you hear me? Sure.

Yeah. I know that I know I know what the quest I know what the congressional record is regarding the proceedings and debates,

by both the House of Representatives

and the Senate, but how much can you use that against,

these

foreign agents

when you're using letters and stuff? Like I know we went over a bunch of stuff,

a couple days ago,

or maybe yeah, maybe it was yesterday,

with all of the red boxes and highlighted,

yellow stuff and,

the house rec the house,

but how much can you use this stuff against these people? Is it, like, literally official on what they state or is it just conversations that were recorded that don't really have a basis or is it just you can use it for interpretations,

I yield? Thank you.

My understanding is is is it's just the back and forth debate within congress.

That's that's what what they actually

whatever they actually have.

This is from Rose book,

the republic

that nobody lives in.

He says it was, it wasn't until June 5, 1933 that the 14th amendment took on a whole new power

On that date, HJR

House Joint Resolution 192

was passed,

and the American people voluntarily

gave up their law because they voluntarily

gave up their goals.

Up their

law? Yes. Thank you.

The gentleman that was asking about title 28, what was the nature of your,

of your question again, Ayil?

Oh,

I had just researched. I tried tried to go back and find out when title 28

I guess it's title 28300215

a or something like that. It says the United States is a federal corporation. I was just looking I'd gone back and tried to figure out when exactly that was published.

Okay.

Yeah. The if you,

there is a

little bit of something on that, from a corporate researcher for 40 years who when he retired, he,

went into all legal research. And,

if you Google,

the informer archives

and then title 28,

You should come to a page.

I think there were questions that were submitted to him about,

relating to title 28.

I'm not sure if he gets into when the origination and all that, but, it was basically

an addendum to the new history of America too,

which was a book.

And,

yeah. So that might be

enlightening to to your start of it anyway to search.

Okay. So yeah. Because in in my logic, in my way of thinking, I was thinking, okay. Well, if you got the federal government that that was officially corporatized,

private, you know, became a private corporation,

and then the the state became corporatized,

There has to be some paperwork someplace.

Maybe it's just hidden. Maybe they did it in secret. But somewhere, there has to be something that says officially that they it's a corporation.

We know they're corporations, but we just can't find the actual documents,

unless, you know, unless it's it's sort of

bundled into the bankruptcy

like what doctor Schroeder went through in

with this video. And I'd have to go back and watch that again. I've I've watched it before. It's just been a little while.

Yeah. And

he mentioned the Battleford

case in there. He mentions,

like, a lot of the case laws too that that were

tied into that.

Even going back as far as Hammurabi and the 14th amendment as well. So it's quite a quite interesting read. On another note, did anybody,

I didn't know if lady Linda Louise was on about, I had a question. I know she knows a lot about the males,

m a I l s,

and I was wondering if she, if she happened to be on. Are you

I have a question about the platform. Do we does this platform have a button anywhere where you can, like, raise your hand,

or is that just like on Zoom?

Yes.

If you're on on the web, down at the bottom, there is,

reactions

with a thumbs up.

You click on it. You click click on that, and you'll get a bunch of

hand icons, and and you click on the raise hand icon.

I got it. I got it. Thank you very much. I appreciate it. Yeah. This is from I've I've never

I I haven't ever used one of these platforms before like this. Okay. Thanks. Is the person wanting Linda still on here?

Yes, sir.

Okay. Hold on. I'll get her.

But we ask that it please don't play with the buttons down below. If you if you don't know what they mean, don't click on them because it can cause problems.

Very good.

Seeing we're talking about the 14th Amendment today, I was going to try to interject this. I've done it before, it's been quite a while

and it still bugs me.

This is out of Bro's book as well.

He says here on July 27,

18,

68, one day before the 14th Amendment took effect, an act of Congress was passed.

This act was 15

United States Statutes at Large

known as the Expatriation

Statute.

Though this statute is no longer included in the United States Code,

It has not been repealed and is still in effect.

The statute is extremely important because

it is the public municipal law

the individual can use for private purposes

to remove him or herself from private trust law operating

in the public sector.

That is a private individual who has found

himself or herself

bound by private law that is being used in the public sector to promote public policy

of compel performance,

which he

did not have a choice in, can

access the public positive statute law to remove back under the liberty and protection of the public

and its separation of powers.

And then

under Bros. Way of looking at the 14th amendment and that's basically what it says is an adhesion contract.

The way you get out of that is by a declaration of independence

through your state

instead of the Secretary of State of the Federal Government and

this is how he worded his declaration of independence.

He says,

I, John or Jane Doe,

in the name of the might

mighty creator

by

my our declaration of independence

solemnly publish and declare

my right to expatriate

absolutely

my resin trust to the foreign jurisdiction known as the Municipal Corporation of the District of Columbia,

a democracy, and return to the Republic.

Any all past present political ties implied by operational law or otherwise entrust with the democracy

is hereby dissolved.

I, John or Jane Doe have the full power to contract, establish commerce as guaranteed by the full 10 amendments to the bill of rights to the constitution

of the United States of America,

a republic.

And this is what he suggests that you put in your local paper and publish

or whatever the prescribed number of days is and that is your way out of the 14th Amendment.

Where did you get that again, please?

This is out of Lee Bros book called The USA, The Republic, The House That Nobody Lives In.

Thank you. And all these ideas about corporation or not corporation and how it all came about, it's all pretty much in there too.

That's where I just read

the HR 192 statement he

makes. He said the 14th amendment didn't have a heck of a lot of,

bearing on most citizens in the country

until they took the gold away. You know how Roger has his three sided,

thing that puts us into,

their trap. Well,

with roast one of those, of course, is the 4th amendment but also the

the gold standard being yanked because that was the law, that was the law of the land, gold was the land etcetera. That's what people used to trade for.

He gets into it quite a bit.

And he starts out with some history about the country

and socialism and communism that was

starting

and how a lot of this really goes back into Roman law like Roger talks about.

This is a lot of law we're practicing not necessarily that this the feudal law for England

that was really

put on them by the church

and

the government

which became the feudal

parts of commerce

that we're under today,

basically Roman law.

So anyway

What's the name of that on weekend 20

it's called,

excuse me. I've got

something in my throat.

I can't so I can't

it's called USA the Republic

is the House That No One Lives in by Lee Brost,

b r o b s t.

He also has a piece that he wrote on the money,

which I also have. Forget the title of that, but you'll see it if you see his works.

What pages were you reading from, Samuel?

I believe the first

reading was 33

and the second reading was 49.

Thank you. And I've got a copy of that 40th congress, Expatriation Act.

There's a preamble to it. There's 2 pages.

And he's saying that they passed this

so that there was an out for all the people they were the next day were that they were gonna make 14th amendment citizens that you could expatriate out of that system

so that there was choice

in their mind. Of course, they didn't tell anybody about it. They just passed it. Right?

The day before the 14th amendment. And it's it's the only place in all the different readings I've ever done

I've ever come across

that expatriation

act of 1868.

Yeah. That's, that's good read,

Samuel, and I I appreciate that recommendation also. I I,

printed and I gotta get it down now, all

200 and some or 300 pages of

the book of the 100 as well.

What who covered the expatriation act, which I know is not appreciated around here is,

it's called, l b Bork. He wrote in the red amendment quite a bit about the expatriation act as well of, I believe it was 18/68

like you said, a yield.

Yeah. I the one thing about Bork, I heard him saw Roger under the bus, so I don't have a whole lot of respect for that guy. I mean, he could disagree with somebody and be nice about it, but he was a really asshole. Sorry. Excuse the French.

He could be, he can be, ornery.

But, but his his research is pretty amazing around that as well. So I just wanted to,

maybe it's the name Bork, you know. You get you get you get borked enough out there and you.

Sorry.

Well, they did it to judge Bork too. That was where the borking came.

Absolutely.

He would have been a good good supreme court judge. I wish he would have gotten in. If he would have lived. Right?

Hey, Samuel?

Yeah. Have you did you ever read, the other book by Lee Brooks, the US of A, the Republic, how you lost it, how to get it back? I'm just curious.

I don't know that I that's a separate is that a different document? Are you sure? Yeah. It's a separate book. Yeah. It's out of print, but you can still it's limited Oh, there's a book. I didn't. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. There's

I think I looked for that one time and I could not find anything.

Yeah. It's

out of print, but I think you can buy it from people that are used.

That would be worth a search.

I yield. Because there's some things in here that I would like to like everything else, get more explanation. It's just like the Bible.

I'm listening to some new stuff on the Bible that's just blowing me away that I've never considered before. And

it's such

a divine document that I guess you just have to be in the right place and time in your brain to

even begin to understand some of the concepts that are really going on there.

Sort of like this stuff, you know, this is also hidden and everybody thinks they're an expert

and I doubt if there are really any.

I mean, I look at these guys

that say they're experts in this stuff

and they're you know really talking about clauses in something that

wasn't

even properly

amended.

A lot of these laws,

they never were properly passed,

and they were unconstitutional,

the stark ones. Yet we argue about clauses in them, which

I don't know, it bothers me a little bit. If I say

I'm trying to understand this farm, maybe Linda Lady Linda Louise will,

will participate. I'm trying to figure out this farm

that might even raise Paris.

Yeah. I called her. She's not answering, so she must be busy, but I left her a text. Thanks for the effort, Sheldon. Appreciate it. What was the spelling of that word again?

Farm.

It's like when we moved to Boston,

went to church, it was the lord is my shepherd.

Hot, not your heart.

First guy I met up there was a guy called Mac.

It wasn't m a c. It was m a r k.

Oh, so FARM

is the New England

way to say

farm.

Is that what you're saying?

Yes. Just like the southern way to say go is golf. So you're talking about a bird or a golf?

Right.

You said nothing.

Yeah. Just,

just a little thought on this,

old, you know, agent as a mailing agent for the for the,

USPS.

Because I know the original post Postal Service still exists, I guess, under the framework of the

USPS. But, the,

the bank, the credit union I went to didn't require, like, any form of document with a, open account,

required no form of document with an address on it. I just gave him my address verbally.

But the UPS store requires

an an address of where you, quote, unquote, live. So I may just put

heavenly

heavenly address, but I I I know that

lady Linda especially has done a lot of research on that matter. I and Terry Lee too too, and I know there's a whole procedure with Terry Lee. And it's interesting because one of the boxes on this farm,

says,

is applicant is applicant a court ordered protected individual?

And I was thinking about, like, what Terry Lee got the court to to use his Christian name, and,

it's kind of a way of protection, right, that, I believe Terry Lee has when when the sheriff is calling to make sure his guys aren't roughen them up at all out there, Ayil.

If I may, I'd like to read the,

it's called the preamble to the expatriation act of 1868.

It says this is an act concerning the right of American citizens in foreign states.

You know remember

this is an expatriation

act, right? They just killed 700,000

men on the battlefield

and women

and they're talking about the right of expatriation.

Okay.

Here it says, whereas the right of expatriation

is a natural inherent right of all people

indispensable

to the enjoyment

of rights of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness

and whereas in the recognition of this principle

this government has freely received immigrants from all nations

and invested them with the rights of citizenship

and whereas

it is claimed that such American citizens

with their descendants

are subject

of foreign states,

owing allegiance to the governments thereof,

and whereas it is necessary

to the maintenance

of public peace

that this claim of foreign religion should be properly

and finally

disavowed.

Therefore,

and it goes into the amendment.

Remember, this is one day

before the 14th amendment goes into effect.

So when you read those words,

who are they really talking about? I think that's exactly it. They had to leave a remedy or else they'd be all tried for treason if if it could be done. Right?

That's what Bruce claims.

It's a few years ago I brought this up, so I know it's out there, but it's probably in the matrix docs or something. If you guys wanna it's just 2 pages. It's that preamble, and then it's one page for the document, which is 3 relatively short paragraphs.

And like I said, it was approved July 27, 18/68.

In July 27, 18/68, the 14th Amendment became law,

supposedly.

Very curious timing just like the Patriot Act.

Et all et all et all. Declaration of war against Japan. Et all et all.

Gulf of Tonkin. Et all et all et all.

Yeah. When you really think about it, Congress has been our enemy

for a long time. The District of Criminal's

DC.

What's so insidious about it is we represent these people supposedly represented

from all of our communities,

right? It's just

something. Yes. The great voting SIOP, right, that gets you into the, into the order, the religious order of US citizenship.

We're trading with the enemy.

May I?

Yeah. Hello? Yeah. I wanted to let you guys know, I this is,

if you go to rumble.com

and there's a,

channel and it's all one word, it's just called The War Against You,

and there's an interview

with a woman by the name of Whitney Webb, w h I t n e y

space w e b b.

It's very fascinating

the way she retains information

and her research. It's astounding.

I've never listened to anybody

who's been interviewed before that has retained this much stuff

about,

the globalist. So anyway,

I believe

she did this on 8 2024,

but she

basically opens the floodgates on,

on everything and tells us exactly,

basically, how screwed we are.

And she's just like, no matter who wins, we all lose. But

it's not so much

of a doomsday as it is a information

podcast with just all of her knowledge about who all of these

technocracies

are and how we headed into there and who's controlling what and who's doing what and what deals were made with who and what contracts were signed. It's fascinating. I yield.

Yeah. Whitney is one

heck of a researcher.

Are you familiar with James Corbit?

Yes. He's amazing too.

Oh, yeah.

Fascinating, man.

Put the 2 of them together with put the 2 of them together with David Ike and oh my god.

Well, I've seen,

I've seen

James Corbett,

Whitney

Webb,

Darren Brosh, and a couple other guys on a round table.

Yes. It's,

very knowledgeable what they what they come up with.

Did you, happen to,

do any research?

And I'd like your opinion, if I may, on

Mark Pacio.

I haven't done any research on him.

What do you have for,

gossip?

I mean, he has doesn't he have,

because he has these seminars or something like that, if my memory serves me,

regarding

natural law, I think, and all that stuff. Doesn't he?

Yeah. He's

a he's a real proponent of freedom, and

it'd be nice if he would or could get on to onto this stuff here to to spread it around. He's got quite a following.

And,

guys like

James Corbit and and,

Larkin Rose,

they're part of his,

one great work network. They're presenters in in that

with about

probably about 70, 80 people by now.

Gregory, Clint Richardson hung out with Passio for quite a while, and,

I think that we're friends, but,

he would have nothing to do with the man,

these days.

And, Mark Mark Passio actually has a Telegram seminar if you guys are interested. It's all day, 10 AM to 10 PM this November 2025.

Samuel, was that Clint Richardson won't have anything to do with Mark Passio or vice versa?

Well, that's what Clinton Richardson said, I from what I remember

about about Mark. Yeah. Well, a lot of the stuff that he has to say, I,

I have to concur with.

I know he's not a Christian,

but he does believe in statement, but he said he's he's not that anymore, but

I don't know.

I think Richardson says Passio means pig shit. Say say again?

Clint Richardson stated that passio means pig shit.

No kidding.

Well, that's his definition, I I suppose.

Yeah. I I

I don't know.

You you wonder why people have falling out with each other, you know, I mean,

and whether it's

just personal and ego or whether it's

got some validity to it or not, you know.

But that's just what I heard him say, so I thought I'd throw it in here. Yeah.

I agree. Ego has a lot to do with a lot of the ways we

perceive the world, I suppose.

Samuel, update on binding that, the republic that nobody lives in, 303 pages that I printed out on my laser, just to bind it to $5.50 with tax, not bad, $5.50.

I think you're

crossing the 2. The Republic is about $87

and the Book of the 100 is $300.

Sorry, yes, Book of the 100. Thanks.

Yes. But that is I get a balance spiral so it can lay flat because that looks like a book to really study.

One thing that's

not real apparent when you look at

the abatement part of it

is if you've got brothers that will represent you and serve your paperwork,

you're actually filling out a different abatement than if you're serving it through the sheriff.

Correct. Yeah. I just wanted to make sure that people know that because if anybody's going to try this,

sure be nice for somebody to do it according

to the letter of what they're saying works

because they're saying that if you don't dot the I and you don't cross the t, no guarantees.

I'm sorry, what did you say about something being $500,

the USA, the Republic? It's the house that no one lives in?

No. It was, $5.50

to bind the book of the 100

the book of the 100, I should say.

Oh, the book of the I printed it out. Yeah. 303 pages back to back, I did.

And it's called the book of the 100?

Correct. Thank you. No. The book of the 100.

Book of the 100. Yes.

Thank you.

Well, on my abatement process, I never got anything back.

I never got anything from the judge like the card or anything. I

did I don't know if I got a card back. I think I got a card back from the district court,

But then the state of Washington, which I never had any,

any relationship with, they sent a notice,

which I just sent back to them, returned to sender. This this person does not live here.

This is a license suspension.

So so I was

even the vehicle I was, I was in was not

registered in in the state of Washington. So I've yet to send out I'm gonna be sending out all my notices as well to these different agencies over there because I'm on the border. But

I still haven't taken that vehicle over there,

or

that consumer product over there because

I didn't want to get hauled in. So we'll see what happens next. Eventually, I'll test it over there.

Well, I'll just say this, you may not have to test it over there. It may come to you where you're at. If you're suspended in another state, your other states reciprocate.

Yeah. That abatement process also says that you give them a certain amount of period of time to respond and then you file

a default process.

They're in default at that point, I don't know, something like that date.

Right. And I did the in this case, I did the Stanford default, and I had it,

they respond the way he's got it set up is you respond to the notary public, and they did not respond.

The next thing I might do,

if I do get any threats is try that

IRVE, IRVE Delaware process, which, I think Sherry, you had sent me that, which is excellent. I haven't heard back from him if they were still after him, but,

I guess his case supposedly went away.

He's going through a lot of effort. I wish you would stick to 1 or the other because I don't know.

It just seems like

if you're trying all different kinds of things, there's no going to be no continuity in it and you really can't repeat that

or know that you've done anything,

so.

You're talking about my process or? Oh, yes, if you keep mixing and matching different

processes.

Right. No, the abatement process is a different process and

the court processes

is is a different product. The abatement process is before court in my

from my humble studies anyway.

Yeah. It is. And it should remain that way.

Right. But if you ever if you got hauled in, let's say they arrested you or whatever, which I've I've had arrests been done to me before

for licensing issues. And if that ever happened again, then you're then

you can't abate. You're not abating that. You're gonna start threatening using the court system, and that's that's I think what Irv did in in,

in Delaware.

And I don't think he really entered into jurisdiction. I don't know. I could be wrong. I have to look through those papers somewhere. I started studying them. I don't know if you have that. Do you have that whole zip package, Samuel?

No. If you all I'm saying is in the book of the 100, if you're doing their abatement, you follow that abatement up when it's not answered because you can't really answer it

with the default process.

At

that

point,

you should not be involved in court

in any way.

They're in default,

not you.

Well, I know that and but I'm saying they roll on you. They'll

tackle you. They'll bring you in chains in front of a magistrate or whatever. So what do you do? Do you just I mean I've been putting their cells being brought out. Oh, we're changing this from criminal to civil. You know? That that's how they roll. So

at some point, you have to

still use their law, like, on a I would use a title 42 against them even if I had to, you know, because and and get a and get a big suit against them. Because if they're if they're you're trying to see I agree with you. In other words, you're trying to settle the matter like Christ said before you go to court. But then if they're gonna drag you before Pontius Pilate, what the hell do you do? I'm not Jesus Christ. You're not Jesus Christ.

We are supposed to also be warriors

and in the spirit, of course, in the spirit. And so we need to fight back and punish

those who try to punish us, I believe.

Are you?

I guess all I'm saying is if you don't follow that abatement to the letter, don't expect

it to work.

What is his does he and again, I haven't read the book of the 100 yet, but what is their

standpoint is if you're called into jail? What is their standpoint if their if your car is impounded?

These things happen on the road, you know. Well, I

I guess that's

all I'm

all involved

in who you are,

what you are,

where you are,

how you conduct yourself in your society.

I mean the book is 300 pages for a reason.

They give you an idea how we got there,

what the remedy is, what you can expect to happen,

and,

I guess

if you're gonna stand in

Christ Jesus Christ's name,

don't expect you're not gonna get crucified either, you know, but you stand on it regardless. Right? Right.

Right. I mean you can you can

you can be like him and and turn him out of the temple, you know, turn overturn the money changers, you know.

And the bank the banks are the temples. Right?

So,

they're the courts of the temples. So I I think,

yeah, I I would I would agree with you that

we're to conduct ourselves in

a godly way and if the godless

are attacking us, I think turning the other cheek was for our brothers within

our society. I don't think it was for our

enemies,

but the people that we're trading with.

Very, very much about that process is about

realizing that you do not want to have anything to do with their system.

I mean they're extremely strict about that. So if

you appear to be serving 2 masters,

they would write you off as you're going to fail.

Right. And that's what I think where Terry Lee goes. He he kinda makes it the best thing where he I mean, is it well, let's let me ask you this question. Is it illegal for Terry or unlawful in God's eyes for Terry Lee to seek a judicial order to be recognized by his Christian name? Well, you

know, Terry Lee was the one that,

that mentioned

the the California

Jewell

Group and how I found the book of the 100.

I didn't know that. Yes. That's that's

I think that's kind of the ultimate is

what he did and and you could you could say,

he wrote the order. Right? Terry Lee wrote wrote his own order, so he could say

he was kinda like doing a Christ like thing. It is you who say this that I am, you know,

before punches by a heel.

Samuel?

Yes.

If anybody's interested,

I found a free copy of of The USA, The Republic is the house that no one lives in.

If anybody's interest for this and you don't wanna buy the book, you can get the PDF for free if you want me to send that to somebody because

I am not on free conference calls. I guess I could maybe send it to you or send it to Sherry and ask somebody to post it if they're interested.

That'd be nice for everybody anybody who wants it. It I that's how I got it. I

I downloaded a PDF, and I just

send that to my printer,

and they print and bind it. It's bound it for me. So

Does anybody want it? Because is Sherry still here? Yeah. No. Yeah. Send that I I'm I'm sure I have a copy of it, but send it to me, and I'll put it up in the docs folder. Okay. Just send it to you, Paul? Yeah. Yeah. You can send it to me, and I'll put it up in Google Drive.

I'll I'll email it to you right now. Thank you. Alright. Thank you. Hey, Paul.

Yeah.

Did you have a chance to look at that video I sent you on,

DeepSeek?

No. Not yet.

I was digging the,

the, Roger and doctor Gene Schroeder,

interview that we did,

on the Radio Ranch on 12/19.

I was taking that out of mothballs, and I'm gonna put it up as a Radio Ranch 101

with, full transcript and description and all that up on Pod Home. That's what I've been working on. I haven't actually been able to do much with email so far.

That piece of deep seek is one of the best ones I've found where a guy is taking both sides of what he thinks is going on there and what people are taught, but people don't realize it. I think

the tech sector of the stock market

yesterday lost like $3,000,000,000,000

because this Deepgram

is a new

Chinese

version of AI

that they only spent, like, 5 or $6,000,000

on and did in supposedly 2 months.

So they trained this thing for

5,000,000

when our tech groups in the valley here have done it for 200,000,000,000.

Right.

Yeah.

So something's going on there. Some people think they got 50,000 CPUs running, and they got some more advanced chips, and

they're just lying. But it's also

free and open

intelligence,

so anybody can contribute. So

they're saying everybody's taking it apart right now and taking a look at it and seeing

what is really going on. They say they will find out the truth, but,

I I don't know. It's it's beyond my pay grade. I thought that if you looked at it you would understand more about it, maybe a report on it better than I can.

Well, it's amazing when you have all prisoners making you sweaters and clothing

and check they can gather a lot

of AI there.

Well, supposedly this was a side job

of guys who were doing mining

and they just decided to do this as a side job and this is what they came up with. So these are mathematicians

that are that are really good at what they they do and

obviously are thinking outside the box and have a different way

of approaching this whole AI question and did it for next to nothing

and they're destroying

that whole business

in this country.

Those mathematical

minor minions. Of course, I'm in here. I'm always in here. Say that fast.

Anyway,

I'm surprised Roger didn't bring it. I also sent him the same video,

but I know he's really focused on this 14th amendment thing with Barnes and stuff right now. So

but there's got to be some heads rolling in the valley.

Hey, Paul. I,

sent you the email of the book of the PDF book so you could upload it into the section of the site for everybody.

Is anybody still here?

Yes, ma'am.

I was,

I just received,

we were talking yesterday about, Gianna

Miceli

from Inalienable

Inalienable

University. I think it was Paul H. That I was speaking to. I just got her book and she refers to herself as an American foreign national

and she is,

a follower

of Bobby Lawrence, David Strait, and Annalonne Wright's high yield.

Alright.

Well,

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