Welcome to another engaging episode of the Radio Ranch with your host, Roger Sayles. Today, we dive into a myriad of topics, starting with a lively discussion about the platforms we're broadcasting on, including radiosoapbox.com and Eurofolkradio.com. We also explore the fascinating story behind a video project in Argentina and the challenges faced with copyright issues on platforms like YouTube and Vimeo.
Our conversation takes a poetic turn as we discuss the moving work of artist Lorena McKinnon, whose performances blend old Mediterranean instruments with poignant themes. We reflect on the power of music and its ability to resonate deeply, drawing parallels to the record business and the sense of knowing a hit when you hear it.
We then shift gears to current events, discussing the release of files on the JFK assassination, the complexities of birthright citizenship, and the political maneuvers surrounding DEI policies and border security. Our listeners join in with insights on military movements and the implications of recent Supreme Court cases.
As the episode unfolds, we delve into the intricacies of language learning, personal anecdotes from Roger's time in Argentina, and the cultural nuances of Spanish. We also tackle the legal landscape, exploring the concept of citizenship, the role of the Secretary of State, and the hidden layers of national identity.
Join us for a thought-provoking discussion that spans history, politics, and personal stories, all while engaging with our vibrant community of listeners. Whether you're interested in the legal intricacies of citizenship or the poetic power of music, this episode offers something for everyone.
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Oh, it's Thursday too. Oh. Alright. Well, I just, well, good morning. A little little ambiguity there starting off. I was talking over Alvin. Not usual. He's a guy you wanna hear even though you heard a thousand times his message is pure and, shows you at least how many how many decades is that? 4 and a half, 4 and a half decades old seventies. Wow. Anyway, good morning. Welcome to the radio ranch. Roger Sales, your host here. It is the 23rd January. Amazing how fast this month has gone by with everything that has it's been a jam packed month, I'll tell you. And, of course, I think that's about it. Date stamp, all that stuff. We are helped by usually usually a number of other platforms. We've been lacking a few of those because of Alan's, demands on Alan, but may I get him back here pretty shortly anyway? Abbreviated or not, we're on some other platforms, and, Paul keeps those. And I want him, if he could, to give them credit, name them, and we can tell them thanks.
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Yeah. I'd be happy to do that. And, no. We weren't talking over, Alvin, in the intro. I didn't have the mics hot yet. I don't do that until 5 seconds before he changes the world. So Okay.
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Alright.
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We are on, we're on a number of platforms. A a few a number fewer than normal, but we are still on radiosoapbox.com for the first hour. So, we're loving that platform. We're thanks to pastor Eli James. We're on Eurofolopradio.com, and we're also on Global Voice Radio Network, through via, by the way of pod home dot f m. The links to those platforms are on the matrix docs, docs.com, as well as the links to join us live using free conference call. You can join us either by telephone, landline, smartphone, tablet, computer, whatever.
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Later when you're setting all that up after today's bad day for that. But listen to the first of that. I'll bet you those voices came out over it. Just so you know. No problem. No. They didn't. I was gonna surprise some of you. Okay. Well, I was gonna surprise some of you that hadn't been around too long with an alternate intro that we've used. Seized on something that's real important to me, because it was on originally the video that the one and only video that I've done, down in Argentina. It's over on YouTube. You can access it still.
You go into ppnradio, I believe is the channel still there, and that video is there. It was, was just thinking about it. I hadn't thought about it in a while. But it's a very interesting experience of it it I thought it was a crackerjack job this gal did. And, excuse me. I've got saws in the background still. Almost finished with all this construction junk. And I know you can't hear it, but it distracts me. K? So, that was an interesting story. And, this intro was what I used on that video, but we put it up on YouTube and v Vimeo, and they would they made a strip it, copyright violation. So, anyway, that's, where it came from originally. Heard it years ago. It's, well, it's fabulously done, and it's very poignant to what we discuss in the events of the day, which are myriad.
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Pointed a lot of stuff. We actually have an example of it because, studio a is working on working on expanding that that intro bit. So I could actually play it right from the editor right here if you don't give you just so we can show people an example of what you're talking about.
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Well, okay. If you can do this, this is a gal named Lorraine McKinnon who is she has a voice like an angel with a little poetry in one of her songs. Go ahead here, Paul. It's called lullaby. Oh, for a voice
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like thunder When the souls of the oppressed fight in the troubled air that rages, who can stand? When the whirlwind of fury comes from the throne of God and the frowns of his continents drive the nations together, who can stand? When sin claps his broad wings over the battle and sails rejoicing in a flood of death, when souls are torn to everlasting fire and fiends of hell rejoice upon the strain, Oh, who can stand? Oh, who have caused this? Oh, who can answer at the throne of god? The kings and the nobles of the land have done it. Here it not heaven, thy ministers have done it.
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And it drifts on off with, the rainbow all the flying in the background. Very moving piece. A wonderful artist if you're not familiar with her. She is, Irish and, has specializes in old Mediterranean instruments, and and brings those back and incorporates them. She's done it. You guys can't access it in the states. We can get that on YouTube here. One of her, most moving performances was on PBS, and it was 2 hours live at the, oh, the famous, the the very, very famous building in Spain, that was built by the Moors. There's a concert hall hall in there. It's just stunning. So, anyway, Lorena McKinnon. And, that has always been a piece that, you know, when something comes along in music, and this is something that's inbred with me. It was very useful in the record business when I was in it, is when I hear, like, a hit a hit piece that's gonna be popular with the public, that hair on my arms go stands straight up.
It's always it's always been there that I can remember, and it's never failed. And, so I've got that kind of spiny sense, if you will. And, it served me really well in those days in the record business, because, well, I I can go into that long story if you wanna hear it. But, regardless, here we are in the midst of a whirlwind of changes. Almost too many to keep up with. And, I mean, here's something that, evidently, he released yesterday the files on on the, JFK murder. And I hadn't heard anybody even comment on it. They're so busy talking about these other important things and deportations and, birthright citizenship and DEI being chunked and him even going all the way back to the origins of woke, which is the, the civil rights act of the sixties, and going back and writing an executive order that overrides that.
So there there's just a ton of stuff happening, states suing, and this may be very beneficial for us. Because if there's anybody that's a specialist in this birthright citizenship, it's us. K? And, we know more about it, what it is, how they're using it in its application, well, than anybody else except our, our enemies. K? So at some point as we move forward here, maybe as that discussion intensifies, to the point that there are states suing the federal government already on not incorporating this birthright citizenship secession against illegal immigrants. I don't know how many states. You could usually probably guess the usual suspects, but that that topic's gonna be up for discussion and maybe somewhere on the peripheral of those discussions that somebody will say, well, hey. You need to talk to these guys over here. They know more about it and and what it is really than anybody.
And maybe that's gonna be our door opener. K? That's gonna be a very topical, 10,000 troops to the southern border, to help border patrol. Half of them originally out into around Southern California, half of them in Texas. Along those, they'll spread and fill in the holes from there. What else? Email to, to all federal employees because he's outlawed all this DEI stuff that this is very promising. K? Knowing that they just go in and change the labels on things, he set up a snitch program inside the federal government on other employees that see that happening in their department and and snitch on them.
So good for you, Trump. And, at that, unbelievable. K. So anybody is wondering hello. Good morning. Get you a second. Anybody that was thinking that he wasn't gonna do anything, but I think we're all almost with our mouths open. Yes. Who who was that person trying to say something?
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Jerry Garcia and Carl Hey, Jerry. Hey, Jerry. How you doing? Good morning. Good morning. Yeah. Hey. You're welcome. That up. Yep. I work I work, you know, in the oil field over here in New Mexico, and I have a few buddies that that come from El Paso. And one just came back this morning from El Paso,
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And he said there was,
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there was already coupes driving into El Paso, Texas.
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Fantastic.
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And, there was, 1,500, but not he didn't see all them. He just saw, military driving into El Paso when he was coming back this morning. Uh-huh. There you go. And Well, I and another thing, did you hear about the like, 2 days ago, a supreme court case that came out Moore v Alliant Credit Union.
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I've been on the court. Case is fake. That that court case is fake. It's a real court case.
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Right. That's that's Joe telling you that. What more left left wing, propaganda crap?
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It was a it was a mock trial. It was never on the docket. I went to Pacer and logged in, and it's not there. So it's fake.
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Okay.
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Yeah. Anything from the left, it's all that's all they do is try and create illusions and commandeer your mind with false thoughts and therefore perpetuate their agenda. And you kinda sit there and it walks right past you with all these tricks they use. But when you get in and know what they're doing and you can start identifying it, and that's why I was so thrilled about what Trump's doing internally in the federal government. If you see anybody in your department doing this, report them. Because now he's he's recognizing they understand their tricks and how they're gonna fight them down to the bone. I think that's excellent.
So, for whatever that's worth, it sounds like it's gonna be worth a lot as we move forward. Interesting. The there's a lot there's a lot of back and forth talk on this meeting he had with Ellison and, what's his name? He is Jewboys, a, Altman, I think. And then the guy with SoftBank, who's evidently a good guy. And, Altman was the one of the 3 that was saying he wasn't. He didn't care about money and all this stuff. As somebody caught him on their phone camera, he drive he's got a $4,000,000 automobile. $4,000,000 automobile.
Whoo. I can't even imagine the insurance and the maintenance on that little baby. Anyway, they're just a whole bunch of things happening. It's a wonderful time, to see some of these things come up. The discussion on everybody on birthright citizenship is, is gonna be real interesting. And and by the way, if anybody doubts you on that and how they're using this, there's a, I think probably everybody here is familiar with Carol Quigley, the guy who wrote tragedy and hope, who was Bill Clinton's favorite professor at Georgetown, who was in the club and actually got, permission to go inside their files for 2 years, and that was the research that was the basis of tragedy and hope.
And in that, very lengthy, insight into this whole thing. Now Quigley was one of them, and he was in favor of what they're doing. His complaint with them was they were keeping it secret. He thought they ought to make it open. K? And in that book, there's a passage where it says the world's financial leaders were to meet in secret sessions annually around the world, where they could fashion the world's financial system in a feudalist fashion. Now that's in tragedy and hope verbatim. Okay? You can't have a feudal financial system without serfs, folks.
It wouldn't go nowhere. There'd be no labor. K? And all they did was they followed, Gertay's little saying. Goethe. He was a contemporary of, Hagel and those guys. German, I believe. G g o e r t h e, I think, spelled unusual. But anyway, and he said there are none so help catch the adjectives here now. There are none so helplessly enslaved as those who falsely believe they're free. That's where they've got us right there. And, amazing work on them, but now we're wise to your game and you're not gonna be able to pull it again. Because see, everything being based on a dialectical platform and basis foundation is you can just take these things and switch them. And so now we can take things like never again, which is their bullshit to their whole hoax thing, and and come around and take that and use it legitimately on the slavers and go, well, never again, slave and bastards.
No. Never again. K. So that it's just a it's a wonderful time, folks. I've kind of been on my soapbox here for a minute. Any I'd like to hear what some of you've got to say, Julie. I know you're there this morning. We know Jerry's there. I would hope maybe Joe, our new our new, member from first time yesterday there at the tail end of the show or so is with us and anybody open for them. I'd like to hear your thoughts on all these things that are going on or things that I didn't mention because there's stuff going on I didn't mention. They've already exported a bunch of these people. Okay?
300 yesterday, and they've got a few more 1,000. They've got them in some sort of centers, and they're they're they're getting ready to start putting them out already, and the ink ain't even dry on that executive order. So I'd like to hear your thoughts.
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Roger?
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Yes, ma'am. Julie, good morning. Hi. Good morning. I want to ask you something. Let me ask you. Before we get started, I wanna ask you something. You were speaking pretty good Spanish yesterday. Is that from school, or did you live in a Spanish speaking country?
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I taught myself.
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Really?
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Okay. Yeah. Excellent. I've been Excellent. Your tango, libros in.
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Yeah.
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You want liberty and good. Solo. Confrende?
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Okay. Abra. I see. Perfecto. Do you know the difference between a stoi and Joseph? Sola. Not solos. Sola is for men. Sola is for women. Not the exact Oh, sola.
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Yeah. Sola. Sola.
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Anyway, we'll
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Hey. Enjoy my English. You get sick the same way.
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Very, very impressive, Julie, for somebody just learning it on their own kinda. Anyway, it's a it's a beautiful language. There there's 3,000,000 words in Spanish, and there's 1,000,000 words in English. And part of the reason for that is technically, every verb has 19 conjugations.
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Now they only use I love that.
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It's like It's unbelievable.
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We can't It's a it's
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a lovely language. A little bit difficult to learn. It's back ass words from English in many, many ways. And, that was a much of an obstacle to me because I had been from the start of this 30 years ago. I and reading and studying, I saw that they and realized that they set everything up backwards. K? And then they execute it frontwards, like, it's like those domino things where they set it up backwards, and then they press the front one and all of them execute like a sales call, if you will, when you set that up in your mind before you go and see a client and structure it all. And so I didn't understand all of this other stuff then. So what I started doing was training my mind to always look at the opposite, the dialectic first.
And, that's interesting to do. But when it came to learning Spanish, like most of the Americans, the everything's backward. E's are i's, i's are e's, v's are b's, h's are not there, j's are h's. It's not the red house. It's the house red. You know, all that kind of backwards of the differences. And, boy, it threw me through Yes. It threw me for a loop. See? And so, I had to because I had to get my mind to not look at the opposite first and look at the first one and where other people didn't have that step. I've I've figured it out finally, but, boy, it took me a while. I went through a lot of frustration with it. And, anyway, this is this is kinda interesting because, you know, I don't think you know about this, Julie. You sit down there in Argentina, and I was, going into a real crux period with the accident and this situation with this female that I was kinda involved with down there. And, those were both coming to a head at the same time, and so I went into a into this period. Oh, I don't know what else to tell you, but it's a but it was like a trance type thing. I've been in it before, and out of that 5 or 7 days, the manuscript for the book came out. That was when I was in Florida. This was in Argentina, and, it was a very calm press time. I went back to my original Spanish teacher.
Because of that situation, I'd gotten so frustrated with I went through, like, 9 different courses and instructors and stuff. Had all that problem. Well, I finally found a good course that I could learn from. And anybody that's interested in learning Spanish, it's called synergy spanish.com. And it's written by an American who's an English teacher, married a Mexican gal, and for 2 years couldn't learn the language the traditional way where he could even have a conversation with their parents. So he went back and he redrew the way that you learn it. And what he did that I thought was so clever and very effective, by the way, is he found the 139 most used words in both languages, and those you learn in 30 days.
You eat 30 minutes a day for 30 days, and you'll be speaking rudimentary Spanish. Okay? That's very impressive. It was very effective with me, whatever. So now that I've got that, I'm using that to shop teachers. Now I'm going, I can learn like this. Can you teach me like this? You know? Well, the first guy was dancing a lot of tango down there after the accident for a while, and and the girls at tango were wanting to talk, and I couldn't speak with them, and they didn't speak English. And so they're going, well, there's a guy that lived in the states for 6 years, and he married an American girl. He can teach. He speaks both languages. So I go over there, and it's this guy that's a, oh, man. What do you oh, what's the word I want? Oh, brain. Come on.
He's one of these kinda, like, magic guys in Spanish. I'll think of it in a second. Anyways, in training down there. Very interesting fella. Buenos Aires guy, liberal mama, a cat raised as a Catholic, met an American, feminist at a conference and married her and lived out in Golden, Colorado for 6 years and hated it. You know? And when he left, he moved back down to outside of where I was a shaman. He was a shaman in training, and he moved out to this community outside of town, and they didn't have any heat in the winter except the fire. They took ice cold showers, no electricity, all that. He lived out there for 5 years. Okay? And this kid was was hard as driven iron. Alright?
And so I go to him in this situation, and because he spoke English, I took him a copy of my 5 page affidavit, my original affidavit. And I said, I want you to understand what's going on and why I think like this, and here's this document, and, I gave it to him, and we, he was my teacher for a while, A very, hey. Here. Do this homework, and he did all this preparatory stuff, and I I understand it. But one day, we were having a lesson. Julia like this. One day, Horace got a lesson. I'm waiting for him. You know, I've done my homework, and and he's coming at my apartment this time, which was I called it the cave.
And, so I'm in there waiting for him and and he comes in and he takes the books and he slams them on the glass table and he said, I won't be your Spanish teacher anymore because of the effing way your mind works, and turned around and walked out the door. Well, at least you got some books out of it. That's a true story. Okay? So later on, I didn't see him for a while and then these other situations came up and I hired him. And, these times I was paying him and everything, but I learned a lot in that period of time and turns out that he had been studying power from the spiritual side for 20 years.
And I really didn't know that, you know. And here I've been studying it from the legal and the technical side for 20 years and our paths crossed. And he told me the second time around, he said, when you gave me that affidavit, you increased my understanding 50 years. So, anyway, a little story, a little side story on the background on another one of these incidents along the path of getting here and being with you wonderful people and having this powerful message that is it's just so bright now. We got some background, you know. Before we're adversarial. Well, now we're not as adversarial to the fact of fighting the commies directly, but we're still doing that.
And we can even do more damage to them than mister Trump sitting up there with all his executive orders and venom and everything because he's taken things a lot different this time than last time already in the first three days. Now, Julie, for I'll get on my soapbox here. I'm very verbal today as you can tell and, hear what you gotta say because I wanna hear it.
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Oh, okay. I thought thought you were asking me something about a star or something like that.
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Oh, estoy. Estoy and Jo Jo soy. And that's both mine.
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Okay. You're soy you're soy in Mexicos. You're soy in serma.
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Well, I'll tell you what my my Argentinian buddy spoke both languages real good, told me. Yeah. A soy is you're doing something. A jo soy is I am I am cold. I'm hungry. Yeah. The other is you're doing something. You use the soy. So for whatever that's worth, that's audience stuff and little technique in the Spanish language. Did you have a question or or or anything else, Julie?
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No. I just had a comment about, you know, all of this DEI and all these executive orders that Trump has passed. What upsets me right now is that he declared 2 national emergencies. He's, you know, the military are in control now. Why is he not going over to California and putting out these purposely generated fires? There's 3 more yesterday in San Diego. I've got a cousin out there who's now in jeopardy of losing everything. And, you know, her fire insurance was canceled 2 months ago. And it's like he could do something. Why is he not doing something over there? I know it's the state and he's federal, but at the end of the day, the governor is not doing anything.
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Well, he's the guy you need to get on, not Trump. Trump's got his hands full. You know, the guy's only sleeping 4 hours a night for god's sakes. He signed over 200 executive orders in the first 48 hours and implementing them. I think he's a little bit busy at the point. And really, at that point, even though none of the federal lands are burning, it's state lands. This is a state problem.
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Yeah. But it's you need to expose If the state is murdering their own people, he can step in.
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I think he's a little busy right now, but, anyway, point taken. He needs to spank Gavin Newsom. Gavin Newsom's the reason, not Trump. You're putting the emphasis on the wrong place. He needs to remove Gavin Newsom. Yes. He does. He needs to remove him or put him in some sort of a corner that he can't get out of. Or you people out there in California, and I know you tried to recall him and they rigged the election over Larry Elder and all the rest of that shit. Schiff shouldn't be sitting up there in that senator space. I'll bet you money that Garvey, the very, very popular Los Angeles Dodger Baseball Player Hall of Fame guy should've won. Okay?
And, yeah, you just gotta clean up that whole damn state. It's rotten.
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Sorry. It is. It's very rotten. I'm a little disappointed that the first two executive orders on Trump's list were not to end the chem poisonous chemtrails of aluminum, strot, camberium, and Graphene oxide that they're spraying down on us every day, and also to eliminate the poisonous water that's in our tap water. I have 27 cancer causing contaminants in my in my in my tap water.
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Uh-huh. Well, I wouldn't be drinking it, and I'm sure you're not. So but, those aren't evidently the priorities, Julie. You know, I just prefer to look at the world in a half glass open instead of full instead of empty. So, that's he'll he'll hopefully, he'll get around to those. He got a whole bunch of stuff on his plate he doesn't even have, but one person in his cabinet confirmed yet, and that's secretary of state Rubio. Okay? So he's got his hands full. So who else? Joe, you with us today? Did you pop back to get back from the airport trip to Orlando yesterday good? I don't know if he's made us. Might have been going to get in company, and he's off of them. Okay.
So, who else is with us today that has something on their mind? Y'all just want me to run off at the mouth here. I'm looking. I can dip deep into my bag of stories. Okay? I have plenty of stories.
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Lady d. Lady,
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may I? Yes. We wanna hear from you, lady Linda. How are you? Thanks for bringing us I'm well. Thank you for thank you for, bringing us Dan,
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by the way. Oh, Daniel. He's a dog. We need to punch more, though. We need to punch more to make it even.
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His expertise is his expertise is mortgages. So, a wealth of knowledge yeah. So he's gonna be a real blessing for our community. But I'd like to share, for the sake of what Julie brought to our attention just moments ago. Megyn Kelly, she does a podcast, and she had a podcast with Nicole Shanahan. And Megyn Kelly did not know about the, the spring coming down from, the skies from this de facto government deep state. And so she's gonna do a podcast with Nicole Shanahan just on that subject. I I I encourage you all to keep watch. And if I,
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view it first, I'll let everyone in on it. But she just got I can't imagine. The other day. I was just I can't imagine somebody not knowing about it. Hell's been going on and discussed for
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over 20 years, but okay. Good deal. Yeah. Well, he doesn't know about the national. I mean, these things. Tucker just doesn't know about the national. No. He does.
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No. He does.
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I heard you Linda and I listen. I heard a guy call in one day and asked him about the national status. And he was aware of it to some extent and said there's several people teaching that, and I wouldn't want to endorse any of them because I don't know enough about it myself. K? I heard him say that personally. Alright? So he does understand it to some extent, but he's not clear on it. And the other people, if he's listening to what Anabaughn Wright and David Strader is saying, well, well, he ain't gonna be any clearer. He's gonna be only more confused. So, boy, that's the that's the big hill I've been trying to climb. Go go ahead. In the Greek in the Greek language,
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there's several k n o w's. You know, to know someone, like, in the bible, to know your wife to know this woman woman or that woman means that you've had sex with her and she's your wife. To know how to play basketball, I was a cheerleader for basketball,
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but I don't know how to play basketball. I was just a cheerleader, so I might know about basketball. But that doesn't mean I know it and understand it and all that. So,
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basketball, but that doesn't mean I know it and understand it and all that. So yeah. So Tessa might have heard about it, but I don't know I don't know what he knows. Obviously, he doesn't know much because if he knew something, he would just, gravitate towards it and wanna know more. But
[00:35:36] Unknown:
Even even the guy at SGT report, he's a good interim platform. He's got all these other creeps on, but even, her his buddy, Sarah Westall, and I did that show with Sarah. That's where we got Paul. And and Sarah Westall told me that she told him that he ought to interview me, but he never followed up on it. We heard recently over the holidays when Jeff Riddens opened his phone lines one night. Somebody called in and suggested me and put gave out the website. Hadn't heard from Jeff. Maybe you will one of these days, but on and on and on. You know? And if the thing is is it's so complex and it's so deep and you can't look at the surface of this as somebody being newly exposed to the information and see at the bottom where this is the root of everything.
And you could even tell them that, but they can't comprehend it yet because they don't know the structure and understand how it's set up and how you've been allowed to agree to be in voluntary servitude. You didn't create it. You just agreed with it.
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Correct. Well, I'm just blessed that I caught on real quick, and Julie caught on real quick. And those of us in this community, Larry and and the whole gang, we caught on quick. So, we're in your balcony, and we love you.
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You know, it's just so so and you thank you, Linda. It's so unusual. Well, it's so baffling to me in a sense on why this resonates with some people just immediately like it did with me. Because I didn't know any of this stuff nor had I been exposed to it like most of you. This high end legal stuff and these differences and the complexity of it and you didn't know any of that but something in your gut told you there was substance of substance here and it was worth pursuing. And here we are. Okay? So glad it is. Man, I I wish there's something I could put in the water or have them had to spray what they're spraying on everybody that would make them uptake this quicker and ease more easily, but I hadn't found that yet.
Got it pretty simplified though. We're black I think credit groups. I think that yeah. I think that these people yeah. I think the whole thing, revolves to some extent around property. The word property is definition. Because you tell them their property, they don't understand that property is right and how it works. And they can't imagine themselves looking at the mirror every morning that their property just like Gertrude said. There are none so helplessly enslaved as those who falsely believe they're free. What about being black sheep there? I can relate to that Samuel.
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Yeah. I think that most of us are, we've always thought a little differently. And, we don't just accept the norm, and that puts us in a position to be able to listen to such a message
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versus other people. How about for they have not loved the truth? We're the truth seekers. We're kind of in our own ways, always poking around and asking questions and not accepting what we've been fed our whole life. And, we're just that black sheep mentality. And if we took a poll on the people, here and and then attuned to this message, a I can't say all of them, but a large majority, I believe, would fall into that category.
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Yep. In high school, my librarian, you know, Wisconsin is so liberal that people don't realize it's more liberal than California. Yeah. She told me I couldn't read a John Birch book in her library, And I told her, I says, hey. I'm sorry. I've seen my dad's tax receipt, and, I think this is my library because she's paid for it. Uh-huh. And, she didn't have anything more to pay, but she she spurred me on to read everything that John Birch put out at the time. Well, you reacted in the opposite way. That's good. And the John Birch Society is headquartered in Wisconsin
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of all for all sakes.
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Yeah. There's plenty of literature. I'd put it that way.
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Yeah. And they do good literature, but here's what people don't know. They're a counter agent. The guy that founded it, the, Welsh, Robert Welsh, was the heir to the Welsh candy fortune, you know, those little peppermint swirls, the Welch candy people. And he sold it to the Rockefellers, and they gave him a a a no overdraft account at Chase Manhattan. To my knowledge, John Birch Society still, maintains. Okay? They hired g Edward Griffin to write creature from Jekyll Island so that they could overshadow Eustace Mullins' secret of the Federal Reserve because he points out the the Zionists. Edward doesn't.
Griffin doesn't. K? So they've always even better, colonel Moore. Colonel Jack Moore, m o h r. You're familiar with him, Samuel? I bet you are. Do You remember him? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Well, he was here for the audience that doesn't know what I'm talking about. Colonel Moore was one of the first people that the Koreans released after he'd been kept by, captured by the communists. And they did things like, I think they they gave him a false execution 13 times or something. You know, they tell him it's your last meal, this, that, and the other, and blindfold him and take him out in the courtyard and ready, aim, fire, and they pull the trigger, and it it fall on empty chambers.
I mean, they did that to him a lot, a bunch of times. And so then they released him. He was the first one released, I believe, came back and because John Birch was just getting started in those days and they were anti communist, well, he became their number one fair haired boy. You know, he was number one speaker on their tours and all that. And he was doing great until in Little Rock, Arkansas 1 night, and he started talking about Zionism. They kicked him out of John Birch and took him off the tour and never to be associated with them again. They're a counterculture organization.
Counter control.
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He he was a heavy Christian. He, he said he cited the, Psalms, the the war what is the warrior Psalm? He he cited that on a daily basis, and he said there are times in battle when his buddies were falling on his left and his right, and for some reason, he was still standing.
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Yeah. You can probably go to scriptures for America because Pete used to have him on that website somewhere and put colonel because he was an honorary colonel. Jack Moore, m o h r. And put that over in scriptures for America.org. And I'll bet some of his stuff would, pop up. He was a great American. Okay? But that shows you that again, here's a facade, John Birch, as good information as they put out. And I can remember when I was a kid saying take us out of the UN billboards when we're traveling and stuff. That was all John Birch, but here part of their main mission is to obfuscate this Zionist connection.
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Same has happened It's funny though, Rodney, in in the literature that I read back then, they were they were saying stuff like, you know, the the top 300 of the Communist party that was sent to Russia came from Brooklyn. You know? And they were the tribe, etcetera. So,
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I'm telling you, if we didn't have guns in that last 4 year period, they'd have turned the US into Bolshevik Russia in the teens. That's what they wanna do. And if they had any chance, they'd unleash it and do that. And if you hadn't got a good idea what that is, you go back and find that series Europa. It's on bit shoot and rumble, e u r o p a, and go watch the first episode. That whole episode's on Soviet Soviet Russia, which is what really built the Germans up. Nazism was scared to death or they hate communists. You know?
So, anyway,
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it's amazing. Hear that Trump's gonna be in in California tomorrow?
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Nope. I hadn't heard that.
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Yeah. I think they're they they don't wanna schedule out because they don't want an assassination attempt. But Could be. He's probably gonna fly into LAX
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tomorrow, so he'll probably have plenty to say tomorrow. Well, Julie, I can't the 3rd or 3rd or 4th day of his presidency getting out there, is that quick enough?
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Well, I don't like Roger. It doesn't matter what he does. Just to in our domestic situation if he doesn't handle the Russians right. And yesterday, he basically gave gave them an ultimatum. He said, end the war or else. And Yep. That's just either they've agreed on that rhetoric between him and Putin and it's part of the theater or he's an idiot.
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Did you hear what Putin said back to, president, Trump about ending the war in Ukraine?
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No. I didn't. Probably that you stop the assaulting Russia and doing the things you said you wouldn't do, and we'll stop it.
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No. He he said extradite Fauci to my country so we can prosecute against him against crimes against humanity, and then I'll end the war in Ukraine.
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Well, hell, he might they may take you on that deal. Okay. So this could all be set up rhetoric, so it looks to me. Well, he I believe he and Putin had talked. I thought I heard him say he's he's spoken to a bunch of these world leaders. I know he said he's spoken to Chi in China, so I'm pretty sure he's probably spoken to Putin. It may be Kabuchi Theater. We'll just have to see. I mean, I don't see why somebody why Putin didn't say, well, you're the ones that started it with the made in crap in 2014. You were shelling that our part of the of the country, which voted to be traditionally Russian in 98% or something, and you sent 15,000 or so high artillery shells over into the main cities killing, I think, 15,000, civilians?
Well, why why that might been brought up?
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Yeah. But, Roger, they also Ukraine, the reason why Putin invaded it, he had over 46 bioweapons labs over there. I know that. I know that. On the border.
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I know that. And who were they? They were Hunter. Hunter and Seneca partners are the ones that started a lot of that crap.
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Roger, the other thing that, retired, what's his name? Larry Johnson. He's an ex CIA guy. He said the CIA also had 20, of their places in the Ukraine, and he says that is like we had, like, 1 or 2 in Libya, for instance. Okay, during the the overthrow of that country, but there's 20 in Ukraine. He says there's something and then all these, labs, etcetera, he he believes that they were also running those labs. So there's a lot of,
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bones to be on Earth. That was about to be just that was about to be disclosed. There was a Russian general or something who was overseeing it. And right before he was gonna disclose it, they killed him about a month or 6 weeks ago.
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Hey, Raj.
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Paul, get in here. Get in here and get in the middle of this.
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Oh, okay. Well, I don't think that, I don't think that Putin's offer, extradite, Fauci, and I'll end the war. I don't think that offer is good enough. I think Trump should counter with, okay. I'll exit extradite Fauci, Gates, and, Soros, then we've got a deal.
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You know who else needs to be in that group?
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Victoria Who else? Newland. Oh, yeah? That Hey. Just put them all on a Learjet, fly them on over there, and drop them on the tarmac.
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Jew as bitch. So, well, it's just, you know, hell of a time, folks. I'm very encouraged. There's a lot more activity than I thought there would have been. Now I haven't heard yet today. I was listening to, Harrison for the first couple hours. They didn't talk about it. Saw Stuart Rhodes interviewed a couple of times as well as, Enrique, Terrige, whatever. Solid guys. I was super impressed with their attitudes after being what they put them through. But they said there was 15 people left in, in prison there in the DC situation. Trump had sent the marshals over. There was a couple of 100, and they got it down to 15. They wouldn't they wouldn't release for whatever reason they had to obfuscate it those 15.
I hope they're out by today, because this is ridiculous. And what Trump could do is make an example for the entire federal bureaucracy of what they're doing at the DC prisons. They're dragging their feet and and trying to resist his orders, which should have been implemented for 48 or more hours previously. So that's going on. Very interesting. And like I said, I don't know the, the situation on that here today. Anyway, hell of a time, folks. We got anybody that wants to add anything? We've dominated the conversation here with this for about the first hour almost. We Yes. Lady Lindsay Louise, if I may Oh, good. Yes, ma'am. You may.
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Now, all of us that are in the know know that the mRNA, vaccine was a treacherous, act of Fauci. And, yes, the AI, expert, Allison, that was the first thing that he talked about. And Nicole Shanahan, when she was having her conversation with Megan Kelly, highly recommend you folks find it and listen to this podcast, The AI people that are in Shanahan Circle, that is the one thing that they are very, very concerned about. They want a moratorium on the mRNA, issue. And, so that's that's the resistance on the health side of the aisle, and that's why they don't want RFK because he knows the dangers of this mRNA.
And Nicole went into a little bit of detail with those of us who have heart conditions, yours truly, I've been around a lot of people that have been vaccinated and I have been struggling with my wellness for, over a year now. And I know that, shedding is a reality. And they're not disclosing how many people have been murdered as a result of that COVID 19 jab. Mhmm. So I yelled.
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I agree. Our our old friend, Chris, got him. He didn't take that jab. His little Jewish girlfriend gave it to him. Yeah. I was gonna say something. I've forgotten Linda what I was gonna respond, but Samuel has got something out, but he remembers it. Yes, Samuel?
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Well, I, I really think that Fauci is gonna get a lot of cover because I think, ultimately, the military was probably behind the whole thing.
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Well, they they came through DOD. There's no question about that. They farmed that, out to the other pharmaceuticals to do it on the outside, but the whole pivot point from what I've seen all these discussions with attorney Tom Rentz and all that, it's all DOD stuff. Todd Callender too. They came to the same conclusion. K? Right.
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Just just like Spanish flu came from the military.
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Yeah. Yep. Exactly. Yep. World war 1.
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Well, there were a lot of vaccinations back then. People don't realize that people in New York I read a statistic we're getting at the time. This is World War 1. Right? Something like a dozen vaccinations, many of them, because they were made afraid of the guys coming home and infecting them. So they basically pulled the same stunt back then.
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Oh, we're gonna take a slight interruption through the, jazz music. What was good? You you cut it off? Yeah. It was good. Who had who cut it off? Lady. Was that, like, Davey Dave Brubeck or something?
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Yes. Lady Linda, what's your injection here? I I'm introducing Daniel to you because he couldn't get on. He was trying to get off the days, and so I had to attach into my phone. Go ahead, Daniel. Okay. Okay. Well, I was wondering if that Dave Brute. Roger. What's your day, buddy? How are you? Was that I'm good. Was that, like, Dave Brubeck or something?
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Good to talk to you. Yeah.
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It's really good to talk to you. I, actually, I have to mute you for one second. Someone just knocked on the door, but I'm gonna pop back in about 2 seconds faster. Alright. Well, we're right here. We're not going anywhere.
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Okay. Linda Linda's phone plays elevator music when she puts us on hold, and she's unmuted on the conference. Yeah. It was a nice little jazz lick that was in there.
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Let's see. Okay. We got Samuel over. Dan's coming back. That's good. I was gonna ask Dan when he comes back and can talk if he knows about this prepaid principal assignment thing. There's those little snare drum right there. Okay. Well, here at the Dave Brubeck 5 Cornerstone. Thank you. Welcome aboard. We're glad you tuned in. Pardon me? Roger? Yes. Julie.
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I heard that I heard that Stuart, that, Stuart's, Rose, sentence was only commuted but not pardoned and that he still has to follow specific rules imposed on him by the court.
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That's what they're saying. Whether they're a uphold or that or not, I don't remember, and they were using some other examples. I wish I could remember them, but, you know, they didn't know automatically say, Hunter Biden had to report to a probation officer. So I don't know. They're they're gonna throw up any kind of crap they can. I I I think everything should be automatically terminated. Yeah. There were 14 of them that weren't paroled, that were commuted, and I don't know exactly why. Like for one guy, the special services guy from Florida that blew the whistle on the FBI trying to compromise him as an informant, and then he played the tape.
And they've had they've had him in jail waiting charges for a couple of years. Hey. I I I they made a charge. I think they charge. Yeah. It's just a whole mess. You know? So, hopefully, they'll all be out at least, and then they're gonna go back. And Stuart Rhodes said he'll apply for a pardon, but I don't know all the specifics,
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Julie. And isn't he one of the prisoners who lost his eye in prison from torture, or did he already have that eye patch on?
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Oh, I did. He didn't have an eye patch on when I saw him on Alex Jones yesterday. I know he's an attorney. I'm not sure which one of them had to go through that. The guy Enrique tar Torres or whatever his name is from floor, he wasn't even in DC. Right. And I'm guilty. Well, Stuart Rose never even, just never went inside the US Capitol, and he never instructed anyone to go inside either. Yep. Nope. Neither did Owen or or Alex or any of those guys. No. It was just a all full court press. They'll do anything to try and keep Trump from being in this position he's been in for 3 or 4 days. They were gonna use that blow it up around the 14th amendment clause down there they were trying to invoke the whole time, and also pivot the Patriot Act from after 9:11.
And instead of foreign terrorists, internal terrorists, white supremacists, Christian nationals, They're trying to make that pivot, and that's why all the emphasis is on this so dramatically. And they're freaking out because now they're about to get exposed. By the way, I did hear right before we went on the air from Harrison, speaker of the house. They're gonna have a new real January 6th committee, and he announced that today. So, yeah, the whole thing's unraveling. They're all guilty. They're they they they gotta be running like damn little exposed rats, because that's what they are.
Okay. Well, you got my you got my something pumping today. It's like somebody wee wee'd in my Cheerios this morning.
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I got you quite a problem.
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Okay. Well, there's the sketch guy. Hey, man. What do you got?
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Well, I'm just wondering where Nancy Pelosi is going to run. She we hadn't even seen her. She not get pardoned.
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Well, she didn't. And, you know, she fell in Europe here a couple weeks ago and busted her hip and had to have a hip operation over there. So I don't even know if she got a hospital back in the US, but boy, you haven't heard her mention heard her mention her name very much, have you?
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No. No. But she she might be running somewhere. She she didn't get pardoned, so we'll see and watch.
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Yep. Gonna be there. Well, she's certainly about to get exposed. I can tell you that as we go forward.
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So, very interesting and Maybe she'll go back to the Ukraine.
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Well, I think that wouldn't that's where she was when she fell? Dave, do you know?
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Yeah. I I remember hearing that she fell. I I think that might have been a a ruse so she didn't have to come back.
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Well, he could yep. Could have been. Don't know. A hell of a time, though. I do know that. Tired trucks say
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800,000 Russian soldiers were killed in this war and 600,000 Ukrainian soldiers were killed. Does anybody know if these numbers are right? Because everything I heard, the the the the Russians did lose troops, but no they didn't lose more than the Ukrainians, did they? They can't even I can't imagine that is a possibility.
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If you wanna talk about numbers like that, go try and find, colonel what's his name being, an interview overall with judge Napolitano McGregor. He interviews him once a week. There's the, there's the see you later Chicago,
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who's not with us today, whistler song. So we'll have is with us, though. Oh, that's right. I'm worried about our limey friends. Go ahead, Paul. We always have somebody to say goodbye to at the top of the hour. So thank you for joining us. To follow us into the second hour, please go to the matrix docs.com. Click on Eurofolcradio.com or the Global Voice Radio links, or join us using free conference call. Thanks for joining us.
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Oh, man. I go, but they've been listening to this for the last hour. They go, we we gotta get away from these Americans. Now they're begging us to influence and kick Starmer out over there.
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Oh, yeah. Well, Starmer gets a lot better and better with all the upheaval we got going on.
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Yeah. Well, I'll tell you what, it's rattling the whole world. There it's reverberating around the whole world. That's for sure. Samuel, what were you gonna say, bud?
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Yeah. Roger, the the the casualty count that I've heard for the Russians, either side neither side is is giving numbers. They're hiding them. But people like this retired CIA officer and Scott Ritter, etcetera, are saying it's more like the Russians in the 100,000 area and the Ukrainians maybe 600,000 to a1000000.
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Sounds more reasonable to me.
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Roger, I've been seeing different
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Go ahead. Go ahead. Yes. Go ahead. No. No. No. You've been seeing what? I've I've
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been seeing outside sources, and I've been on the Indian Times and, rt.com and and, and those, gentlemen that you just mentioned when they get interviewed colonels and generals. And they're saying sometimes 10 to 1 or 8 to 1. And, there was a parade, a victory parade, and they had all the Bradley's tanks and German tanks, the French, even the Spaniard tanks. They have conquered down there. They're just lying. That the biggest number they're having is they're being deserted. The Ukrainian army, they're not able to recruit their own people no more. So they're trying to bring even cash some Venezuelan mercenaries there.
So the problem that I the problem that with Russia is they're not fighting Ukraine only. They're fighting all Europe because they're sending everybody's sending money, tanks, emanations. They're doing a great job. But, you know, Trump cannot come, and he did say that that they lost, like, $800 or whatever, and and Ukraine have lost less. Either he's giving me the wrong information, or he has to come out looking like Yeah. He's the, we're the superpower, and we we go over to anybody. I understand. Got some of those damn Zionists surrounding him, feeding him crap. Not unusual.
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Well, I hoped we wouldn't have that this time, but they've you know, these people are gonna have an influence in any movement, especially one that's got legs anywhere in the world. They're gonna have some influence somewhere. K? For They have infiltration. Sheldon Adelson who died with the Las Vegas magnate. His wife, I think, donated a $100,000,000. You know, Trump has traditionally had friends in the, in the Jewish community because that attorney Cohen, who's his attorney for so many years who evidently shot him straight on. I don't know. Wish I knew all the intricacies of it. I just know that somebody that's had his career in that position, you can't couldn't have done what he's accomplished without rubbing more much more elbows with these people. K?
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I would agree with that. Roger?
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Go ahead, Samuel.
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The the reason I I think that a lot of this could be rhetoric between it's gonna be between Trump and Putin because last time they they he he went in looking too friendly to start with and everybody said he was a puppet of Putin. So it would behoove him to make an agreement with Putin that he gets to drag him through the mud a little bit and make him look like he's superior to Putin. So, and, you know, rattle his sword and all kinds of things before they really come to an agreement that is,
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amicable for both sides. So I I don't know if those guys I believe those guys not only like but highly respect each other. Trump, for 1, respects people that accomplish things, k, in whatever field. He respects that. And Putin with his success level and level ended thinking can't help but feel the same way. I believe they like each other and respect. And if you'll remember the first time, the last time around, when he gave him that soccer ball and and freaked out, they were gonna have a meeting without any advisers in there. And it was all his Zionist advisers who went apoplectic at even the mention of them having a private meeting when their fat little ears and noses weren't in there.
K? These people are scared to death. They are so I believe they they portray an, an image of us of being very powerful, and they wanna scare you and control you that way. Internally, I think they know this whole thing is nothing but a house of cards, and I think they're scared to death of it coming unraveled. And they know it. That's why they come out and squash anybody like IRS that tries to get out there. They will just absolutely put their foot down on you real early because they don't want that spreading because they know they've got a tenuous hold on this. We know what they know. It's just a whole damn Rick Rick Wild, yes. I Roger. Oh, there's
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Rick Rick Wild, yesterday, Roger, said that they he thinks that the, 80,000 new armed IRS agents are probably gonna be headed to the border.
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That'd be a good place for them. In with the rest of them, they can mingle with the rest of the bandits. Yeah. And, by the way, I mentioned it yesterday. If you're new and and don't know, we can get you. If you've been filing, you can at least apply to get the last 3 years of your income tax filings back. They have been honoring that. But all this talk also about getting rid of the IRS and IRS agents switching everything to tariffs, which I don't know if they're gonna be able to get that through. Okay? But if you've have have didn't know about that or been thinking about it, I wouldn't let too much grass grow under your feet.
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Would that would that include payments made on the payment arrangement? This is Dan again, by the way. I got back in finally.
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Dan, who? I don't know, White Anne. Honestly, that's a good question. We've always just had people who've had been filing regular. You had a little deal with them in your own payments. Wait till Mark gets back. The thing is I haven't filed for
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for 2 years now, so maybe I have 1 year I can get back. Yeah. You probably would I don't know. I apologize.
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Well, yeah, I know. It's called revocation of elections. That's what this whole project was started on. My law teacher was very adept. Well, he was a IRS specialist. He loved the law. He was very involved in tax law. And he found in 26 CFR, code of federal regulations, where when you change status, you can apply for at least the last 3 years that you've paid in. And so that's what they built this company on that lasted for 6 months until the IRS raided all their offices and effectively shut it down. That was in 1992. In the fall of 1992, I was actually in the student kind of part of that. I had run across them in August.
Couple months later, this happened. But there was only just to give you a sense of what you're dealing with here, Dan. There was only 1200 people that paid to go through that course. There was a payment involved. $1500 to go through the course, and then they'd get a percentage if they you went through this and got money back from the IRS. And that happened initially until they caught on what was going on, and then the door slammed. And we all got me, and others got a $500 frivolous filing penalty, which is now 5,000. Okay?
So, anyway, out about that time, I figured there was, let's say, 300,000,000 people in the country. So out of 300,000,000 there was 1200 that went through that course in 6 months.
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Out of the 1200 that went through Is it still there? I mean, is the knowledge still there, the information?
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Yeah. You're you're you're plugged into it right now. I was the only one that took that information, got further, and this is what I found. See, their emphasis was totally focused on taxation. I didn't have a tax problem. I was looking for answers I'd been asking myself about for 20 years. And I was in there because woah. Oh, oh, oh, I was in there because I was seeking answers. Here's the truth seeking part. And those other 1199 people, when the raid came and everything went into shambles, they left because they were there for taxes. I was there for answers. That's why we're here today. I've thought about it many years. Okay?
But I was the truth seeker. They had a different motivation. And, here we are. And, hey, look what I found.
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I want food. Yeah. Me too. More than anything. It's absolutely true. Speaking of truth, Roger, so you had mentioned David Strait and Annabon Wright's a moment ago.
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Yes.
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And, well, those I mean, everyone everyone's had their contribution. Right? I like to give everyone nothing. Everyone's got their contribution. Well, I'd like to say they're doing it. Yeah. I mean, I'd like to even I mean, even in there well, I'll tell you what, Dave David's straight for all of his, like, you know, yahooing that sometimes gets done. His contribution
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in part I can attest to is me. He was the first guy I watched. I heard of stuff. Right. Well, the here. Well, here's what you don't understand yet. I'm gonna have to go in and get you to purge your brain of a bunch of the crap that you paid him to teach you. And then we're gonna Oh, I didn't replace that with with truth. Okay? Yeah. It was just
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just the YouTube stuff, but, I've already purged most of it because I certainly didn't do his affidavit of repudiation. When I read that thing, I'm like, no. This is too much for these insane. I'm not sending this through. And then Anna, one of the assembly members, pointed out that it was really only a territorial affidavit. It didn't quite speak to the municipal side of things. I've been looking into that some more, but I didn't wanna talk so much about David because David's a one hit Charlie thing. He does that one thing. I want to talk more about Anna. Not Anna particularly, but the assemblies themselves.
I joined the assembly
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Right. And,
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about 2 years ago, and they they got me started and it helped empower me. It was a good thing. Then I found out that along the way that it it's operating like a PMA a little bit, it feels like, because Anna says she's a producer of some sort. And I've been trying to get to the bottom of what that really might could possibly mean because there's 2 things going on. 1 is, Anna sometimes goes off the rails, and maybe she totally is off the rails. I don't know. That's one thing. And the other thing is that the assemblies are filled with heart and there are Americans saying we've got to put up our pillars and supposedly Ohio has put up its 4 pillars and filed the sex parte Noligan, if you know what that is. And apparently, they're getting traction. The cops are starting to leave them alone in their county anyways and in a couple of the other counties in Ohio.
And I just wanted to sort of just talk through this whole, what is this fiduciary? Do you know what I'm referring to? Anna says Well, I know what a fiduciary
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relationship is. She might have it in some part. I'd like to find out. Well, you know, she's a judge, judge Anabaughn Ryan. She's a superior court judge in the people's superior court that she made up.
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Well, she has connections to the to the pope,
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and supposedly, she's involved with the pope, their direct line to pope Bergoglio, who's the 1st Jesuit. Pre pope in the history of the Catholic church, if you didn't know that. And, also she got a Jesuit. Yeah. And, she talks about the the mother ship that she's in communication with that's circling the earth. Those things right there, they're about my realm of orbit. Okay? And I know that she Okay. Well, here's my my perspective on that. What I know is you don't do you don't you're not gonna free the country in groups. You're gonna free it individually because you're you and your freedom is your individual decision.
Now we get enough people that are grounded and legitimate. In that respect, we can have a powerful group. But if you don't have that, your group is gonna be subject to political infighting and all of the traditional relationships that go with that sort of thing. It already is. And you're gonna chase your tail, and you ain't gonna accomplish jack shit. That's my problem with it.
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I totally get it. So so this whole thing that's been going on all this time, see the thing is the assemblies are loaded with real quality people. I mean, I can't speak for all of them. I can it just appears as if the majority. Every time I talk to an assembly person, it doesn't matter where from, if that's your head screwed on straight, you're American, it's it's half. You know what I mean? Right. Just you can tell. And that's a good thing. So Lina helps because of whatever it was, however she started. She has to be a bunch of Americans her way.
But I just what about this? I just want to get on to the notion of raising up the pillars of government where we have a general assembly, a sheriff, a militia, some banking, you know, and then the administration in the courthouse.
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Well, you've got all those things in place already. And in the states, they're there. They're just hidden. Both of those hats, the common law and everything. And those offices that they put people in wear 2 hats. They're still there. There was a guy, oh, I think of his name in a second. He was in North Carolina and 25 years or so ago, he founded North Carolina State. Not the state of North Carolina, the federal subdivision, but North Carolina state. He was the secretary of state. They elected a a a a a president and and offices and did everything. They never gave them any crap at all in all those years. That state's still there. It's just veneered over. You gotta go back and access it. And you can't go do that if you don't have your status set correctly.
And these people don't know what they're doing when it comes to status.
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What you're what you're referring to is, I just wanna make sure I got that right. So what you're referring to is, the the republic that's been papered over and it lies dormant. Is that what you're referring to? Well,
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you have to look at this, Dan. Are you familiar with a group of books? I don't know if you hung out in law library too much. Linda said you dealt with mortgages. Not enough. Not I gotta get there. Okay. Well, over there's 3 sets of law books in that law library. K? And the first one is the one over in the corner with all the dust on top of those big books because nobody ever goes over there too much. And those are called the organic statutes at large. Now, those are the organic cons presumed to be constitutional laws of the United States. Okay? And when you go over there and look at those, I want you to go to volume 1 and open up the first cover. You know what you're gonna find? That's a rhetorical question. You're gonna find the declaration of independence.
You're gonna find the declaration of independence. You're gonna find the Northwest Territory Ordinances. You're gonna find the articles of Confederation, and you're gonna find the Constitution. Those are all inside the cover of book 1. You think they might be legally applicable and lawfully applicable? Yes. They can't get rid of these things. All they do is veneer over them. They veneer over them. Right. They And then and then fool you.
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Okay? So the whole notion of the various state republics and the, inhabitants thereof who are get papered up and change their status, assembling under any guise. I mean, whatever. It doesn't that's the whole thing. It doesn't matter that Anna whatever. Anna Schmaine. It doesn't matter. If you're American symbol in Massachusetts, where I'm from, we should be able to prop up a government if we can get our act together. Well, if you especially if you've changed statuses, you can't do it while you're still a serf.
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Do you I I can't ever find one example. There's a 1000 years of legal precedent in feudalism. I've never heard of one example where the the serfs on the manor rose up and overthrew the lord of the manor. And that's what you're saying Oh, I mean is gonna happen here. You've got to change and realize we're in the feudal system. You can do what you're wanting to do, but you've gotta do it according to those rules. And that rule is you can volunteer out of that condition. It's a voluntary condition. That's why they've asked you those 2 questions your whole life. Okay? Mainly Yeah. With big financial thing like mortgages. Okay? And so you can undo that. But you gotta do it with the lord of the manor who's in charge of citizenship and everything to do with that contract.
And in our system, that's the secretary of state. The reason he has that power is because they've always given him the power to issue passports. A passport is a legal lawful document under Vattel's law of nations that is presenting you to foreign nations. If they're gonna do their job correctly, they've gotta present you in your right political status, don't they? Where you get your rights and you know your duties? Well, that's why they use this office because they set the presumption up there. They ask you your whole life, hey, did you do are you are you? Yeah. Yeah. Even though you don't know what your answer is. Right. But if you get to that Right. Passport application, they have to present you the option.
Because under after Watergate, there was some real important legislation that gave government transparency. One of them was the paperwork reduction act.
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And in that act That was all the way back then? I thought that was in the nineties. That was back in the seventies?
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Yes. And and and you if you're a government agency, and you're putting forth what they term an information gathering request to the public, you're putting out some form that asks the public for information. If you're doing that, you have to send it to the office of management and budget and have them send it through a very strict regimen of checks to make sure the document is constitutional. And then when it is, they issue it an o m b number. And until it gets that number and that approval, they can't give you that to the public to answer those questions. So when you get to the passport application, this is why it's so important.
They've got to tell you in there what they're doing. Now they don't have to tell you where you can understand it, but they gotta tell you. Right. That's your And if you understand what you're looking for like I did, it'll jump out at you like a herd of wild horses, which it did to me. But all the other millions of people that have read that that form didn't see shit.
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Right. Right. Right. Exactly. And they started issuing those same blue passport books to basically most everyone, and, and and the passport book itself says, to all who it may concern whatever, let the Citizen National, it's all caps Yep. Pass without delay. And so that you know, that's referring to me. That's it. But Which one? Did you just say citizen national on all of them?
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Yeah. Well, the Supreme Court It also says
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every
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go ahead. It also says that passports are only issued to US citizens slash nationals. Now here's where they've tried to obfuscate I don't know what the hell Oh, it's real confusing. I'm gonna confuse it I'm gonna confuse it more for you. What they've done to obfuscate this what they've done to obfuscate this is take a little bitty island over on the other side of the world called American Samoa, not Samoa. American Samoa right next door and they made them not incorporated the only territory that's not incorporated in the whole federal system. There's a lot of territories there and they make them nationals too.
Except they can't be birthright citizens because it's not incorporated. So they don't get to be citizens of the United States. They're called noncitizen nationals to confuse an obvious state, and they hide national to state citizen right behind that. And you can't see it. K? These boys are slick. They are slick. Yeah.
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But but the, but the, noncitizen national status technically applies to us too, does it not?
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Well, they you and that's the trap. I think that they see, they're trying to keep anybody outside that's try sees this and is asking questions for figuring it out. But they're not setting it up for people like us that understand basically what the scam is and then we see this. Because you're right. Well, we're not citizens. We are nationals. But here's the difference. They are not both. We are. All US citizens are US nationals. And we can switch back and forth. Okay? They can't. They've only got the national side and if there's a bunch of them in the US, we had a listener to to Tully was his name. His family in American Samoa is the next one to take over the kingship down there because that's determined on how you own your land.
Okay? And so he he's been up in Arizona for 30 years, and he stumbles into us one day, you know. And, we hadn't talked to him in a while. Good guy. But those people have to naturalize. If they there's a bunch of them in Utah, Dan. Evidently, the Mormon missionary program has been real productive down there. I love the Mormons. I love the Mormons, by the way. I love them. Well, they're inter they're very kind people. And there's a bunch of them in Utah. But here's the problem, is they reach a ceiling when they wanna join civil service, they can only go so high. If they wanna join the military, they can't be officers.
They've got restrictions on them because they're not citizens of the United States, And they have to go in and new and naturalize. Now there's been 2 cases that have attempted to get started and go to the supreme court. 1 made it because it went through DC about 12 about 10 and up, 10, 12 years ago, and it was if you go put in a search engine, American Samoa in quotation mark, and then put plebiscite, the word plebiscite, this incident will come up because they voted. The plebiscite is when everybody in in the country votes on something like they we wanna be citizens of the United States. What they want, Dan, is they want the goodies because you can't get the goodies unless you're the federal citizen. And they're not even though they're in the United States and they don't understand it. See? And so the other case, that one, the supreme court denied certiorari.
That was 10, 12, 13 years ago. So I'm not What is certiorari certiorari again is what? Certiori is there's about 10 well, there's about 10,000 cases a year that go to the supreme court, and there's no way they can hear that many. So they pick and choose which issues or things that fit their parameters, and they grant them certiorari, which means we'll hear your case. K? The others are turned are turned will hear you. Yeah. For the supreme court. Okay? And so they denied certiorari on the first one. And then the other one was a couple years ago. It came out of Utah. This was interesting. It the lead attorney was American Samoan. He had a backup attorney. They filed the suit in the, Eastern District of Salt Lake there. The federal in federal court and the federal court ruled in their favor.
Within 24 hours, there was 2 amicus curie briefs. Do you know what those are, Dan?
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The amicus is a friend of a court.
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Friend of the court brief. Is up here. No. That's it. That same thing. No. Amicus Carey is a friend of the court brief. Well, there was 2 of those filed in that district federal district court within 24 hours after that decision in favor of the American Samoans. And one of them was from American Samoa, and the other one was from the federal government. And I predicted at the time, I said they're gonna appeal this up to the 10th circuit that's out in Denver, and they're gonna probably quash it, which is exactly what happened. It never got to the Supreme Court in this case. But the American Samoan attorney in the article when we first found out about the case had been filed and some here's the guy at the bottom of the article quotes. He says, do you know there's 2 types of citizenship in this country?
That was the attorney. I tracked him down. I called the district court in Salt Lake, spent time on the phone with a nice gal that went back and went do the research and found both the attorneys and their phone numbers and all that stuff. I called the lead attorney and I left him a message on the phone. Here's your answer. I've got the answer to this. Because see, the whole world is controlled by hiding this American Samoa and hiding the national term behind it. That runs the world.
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That by hiding that national term behind it, all it's just all it really is is a subterfuge that stops people from looking any further because they always talk about America's MOA. That's all it's built up. It doesn't change anything about us. Is that right? More layer of plausible deniability.
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Now now well, I had a guy, well, Dave, it's Dave's buddy. Ron Avery, some big law scholar that's over on RBN, and finally his audience got him. He gave me an hour for the first five minutes. He was pruning because he was for his video feed and couldn't get the damn microphone to where he could hear him because he wouldn't talk straight into it for 5 minutes of an hour over on RBN where they carry a bunch of commercials. So I had no time to talk. Okay? Anyway, this guy is a flight. Pain of that. Oh, he's just, you know, and he's oh, no. No. You can only do this in groups. And so then he lied to me. I I tried to get him on my show. I had a 2 hour show on Sundays on same network. I knew I couldn't explain this in that situation in an hour. So at the start of the show, I said, listen. I got my own show here, 2 hours on Sunday. Come over there, and we'll have the time overflow to go over this in some detail. Okay. I'll do that. Well, Sunday night showed up even though he'd said yes to his audience and me. He lied. He bailed out. He didn't answer the phone. He bailed out. He just did chicken shit. And so he goes off to do his own investigation.
Okay? He didn't wanna hear my explanations. He wants to decide on his own so his ego he'd stroke his ego that I'm right. You know? He me. I'm Ron Avery. I'm right. He comes back and goes, oh, no. Roger's wrong. That's American Samoans. So see, he even works on people within our movement. People Wow. Listen. The people that this message resonates with, I tell y'all so often, you're so special. You're the chosen ones. You're special. You crave this information. You've been looking for it. You just never stumble over it. You you knew there was an answer. You just couldn't find somebody that had it and could explain it to you. Right.
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Right. Right. Right. Exactly. Not locked in. It's canceled. Pardon me now? What was your question? Yeah. Can you hear me?
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Yeah. I hear you.
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Okay. Yeah. The the next thing I just sort of want to ask about was, so do you know anything about, Eddie Craig? A little bit. I remember the name. I I remember the name from a couple of years ago. He he deputy sheriff guy who came up with the script. He's, like, teaches all of us now how to, like, not even have to answer questions on a roadside.
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Oh, yeah. Oh, he thinks my stuff's a bunch of shit, by the way. I I'm familiar with who he is. I thought he's very good, but he is very You know something?
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He's vicious a little bit in that way. There's a little bit of ego going on there, in my opinion, and he thinks everybody's stuff is pretty much that. I mean, literally across the board, he doesn't trust anyone. That's what I told him because I was on a big conference call with him. Anyway, the script part is pretty good, and it's all about the whole probable cause thing at the road stop. So as soon as the officer pulls it over, it's, you know, you get a bad number, you get a thing, and they can see the see the whole picture on your camera, is your camera on? You ask them why I pulled you over, you know, I see, you don't you don't have a license or something like that. You're they'll say something.
And then the first thing starts to be right at the probable cause, stuff that you would bring up in court in the 1st place. And you stop them at the door, and it's like, are you asking me to answer your question? Have you done anything illegal? Well, yeah. So it's, me. I had a dry I had no driver's license, but the the, my automobile, I left it, registered. I just left it registered. That's okay. I can do that. Yep. That my use determines.
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I I I've heard of stuff, and I thought his his approach is very good. People pull you over, and the first thing he says, am I under arrest? Because, technically, pull you over, you're under arrest, you know, that sort of thing. I give custodial arrest. Am I under arrest? You know? I'm not free to go. Yeah. That's right. All that. And when you don't get into traffic, Dan, I'm gonna school you here. We don't get off into traffic much here, and I'm gonna explain to you why. It's because you can't get the same results in every jurisdiction. We've never had any problem with hold on just a second. We haven't had any problem with the feds, but it's these driving incidents where somebody's in the county where they've got a judge Roy Bean as their judge and boss Hogg is the sheriff. And they don't wanna believe it. Dan knows the law, and they ain't gonna listen to you. They're gonna do what they wanted to do and what they do to everybody, and there you you there's no consistency in jurisdictions.
Lady Linda.
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Oh, no. It's me, Julie.
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Julie. I have I have read that Eddie Craig was never ever a deputy sheriff, and the closest he ever became to being one was as a part time jailer for a period of 2 weeks in 1992 Okay. Before he was fired.
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Okay. Do you know? Hired. I've seen him. I'm I know Infowars has him on there. I've watched the video. I thought his information is pretty good. That's all I know about the oh, that he doesn't like he thinks we're full of shit. I know that. So that's all I know. And and everyone else too. Yeah.
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Okay. That that was I was on a conference room for a good 5 hours,
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about a week and a half ago. Well, I mean, you know, look. I spent I spent 2 hours on the phone with Todd Callender, attorney, international attorney for 20 years. He didn't get it. Okay? You know? And let me tell you the problem with Anavon Wright and straight and those people Is they expose people and they're not teaching them accurately and they really don't know what they're doing because they don't know the system they're in and they don't know the system of law that's being used. If you don't know those two things, how much of the other things you're teaching is gonna be accurate?
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It's gonna fall fall aside.
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Okay. So now but the people that have been exposed to that, and they haven't been exposed to our stuff, and you walk up to them like general Flynn and and one of our students, Annie, did at one of those resurrect America tours, and she handed him the pamphlet. He goes, oh, no. We know all about the national stuff already. Well, no. I'm sorry. You don't. You were mistaught. You didn't have anybody to teaching you about this that knew what the freaking crap they were talking about. They're telling you it's Admiralty Law, and they're telling people like general Flynn that it's Admiralty Law.
It's maritime law. When the whole freaking financial system is built on the Babylonia merchant code. And they can't see that difference and put that together? You're in the mortgage business. You ever seen an Admiralty mortgage there, Dan? No. How about a No. How about a maritime mortgage? You seen one of those, Dan? No such thing.
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No such thing.
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You've seen them some What's your name? Out of the uniform commercial code though, haven't you?
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Oh oh, absolutely. So the law of merchants being with the UCC.
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Yeah. So if the law of merchants being basically the UCC brought forward and modernized, would that still works in an either Admiralty Maritime framework
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or not? Right? Or it can work in a it can work in certain common law frameworks. Well, I I don't know. Yeah. Oh, well, no. It can't. Well, it does work in conjunction with the common law. That's what our tax system is. You know, the the 10 40 form is a document called a Jewish shetar, which is the ancient way of dealing with debt. K? In England, they called it a statute staple bond or contract. We call it a 10 40 form. All of them are a document called a Jewish shetar. It's gotta have 2 things. It's a specialty contract in the UCC. It has to have 2 elements that make it a this contract.
It's gotta have a recognizance in it and it's gotta be signed under seal. What the hell is a recognizance? A recognizance
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Recognizance isn't about jurisdiction. Right?
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No. It's about what law is being followed. And in the contract, there'll be a recognizance clause that says you'll abide by on your 10 40. I'll abide by all the terms and conditions of title 26 c f r. They use those in car car contracts also. And the recognizance is whatever your state statutes are that the legislature has determined as payment terms for this type of loan. Like, if you don't pay your car payment on the 61st day, it invokes the penalty. K? And that's the same thing this recognizance thing does. And so, the and these bring in the teeth. What are the teeth?
Self help remedies. Have you ever heard of those, Dan? Self help remedies. You ever heard of them? Oh, I mean, I've heard of them, but something tells me I'm not sure what you're about to say next. So Well, I was gonna say, how about if I call them lien, levy, garnishment, seizure? You ever heard of them?
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Yeah. Every one of them.
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Well those are self help remedies. And that's a situation where they write the remedy like we're doing here I'm explaining to you into the contract. So they don't have to. If you don't pay your car payment on the 61st day, your contracts had a recognizance that referred to the state statutes and this legislature said, hey. If they don't pay on the 61st day, you can go grab that car. So you don't have to go to court, wait to get on the docket, wait to get in front of a jury, wait to get a decision, wait to go get it docketed. Now, I can go grab the car you're delinquent. 8 months for now.
Okay? So, there's purpose to this. Alright? But the important part is self help remedies. Because those are remedies and the only places they've ever been used and are available are the law merchant, the uniform commercial code, and the menoral law during the feudal system. The feuds took on the law merchant from all of the trade fairs that would circulate around Europe. And because it's the Babylonia merchant code, the merchants of the earth, they've been used it since Babylon. And because that's the law they used in the fairs, the manners took on that law too.
Now, do you do can you get can you hold on? Can you have self help remedies in Admiralty Law? No. The only remedy is called prize. I kick your ass. I take your stuff. On land and martial law, it's called booty. I kick your ass. I take your stuff. And in maritime law, the only, paperwork that's thrown around is called the bill of libel. Okay? And so, you don't see those floating around the courts. It can't be either one of those because the remedy dictates it. What's the remedy used? The whole financial system, mainly the tax system. Those are all mechanisms that are directly tied to the Babylonian merchant code. And that's why, you know, look, I wouldn't know all this stuff, Dan, if it wouldn't have been for I was a good student. I was curious. I wanted to learn. I had an excellent teacher who knew it all because he'd been fascinated with the law his whole life, but he only went to law school for a year. Otherwise, he went back and got all the old books and read all the old law that they don't teach you necessarily in law schools for the last 100 years. Like, hey, Dan. What's the legal concept behind the meaning of the word person?
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Yeah. That's a that's a pretty long story. I don't know the
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There's one the Well, it's very it's very short, and it's very accurate. But the point being is they don't teach that in law schools hardly anymore
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because the organization Oh, Jane is fighting in with property.
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Well Person is property. Well, yeah. How how can you know what the person is legally if you don't understand that concept? Are you a person? Does that mean us? Yeah. I asked people. That's my litmus question test question. I asked them that, and the only answer I ever got out of Americans was it's a corporate fiction. Well, that's not an answer. It's a partial answer. It's partially true, but it's not true. Everybody's not a corporate fiction. That doesn't mean you're a corporation, which is the kind of crap Hanavan Wright and David Strait are teaching. Okay? But that's not right at all. Here's your definition. A person is an entity to whom the law ascribes rights and duties.
So all I have to find out is where I'm getting my rights and who I owe my correlative duties to, and that's the person I am. All persons born or naturalized in the United States. Well, they're getting all their rights under the 14th amendment and federal citizenship and all their correlative duties there. So that's your legal personality. And the presumption is gonna be that you're that unless you tell them specifically otherwise to the secretary of state in some declaration or affidavit. And unless that is the presumption the presumption just rolls on because I mean Dan, hell, he's a he's a little bit for a long road in life and hell, every time we ever ask him, hey, Dan. Are you in a condition of former black slaves who received civil rights with, with federal citizenship after the civil war? And, hell, every time I ask him, he said yes and sign something.
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What am I supposed to think? Right.
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Right. So do you think I'm educated? Know what I'm doing? And I Well, I I think well, I've got I'm very sophisticated, and I think that ignorance of the law is no excuse. And if I can pull the wool over your dumbass eyes and make you admit you're a slave, well, Dan ought to know what the hell he is, shouldn't he? Ignorance of the law is no excuse, is it?
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No. And on the other hand, it doesn't take you 45 years to find out.
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Hey, Tom. So, Dan, I
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I'm glad you you found us, man. I'm really glad you found us. Yeah. I am I I am too. I'm still in the middle of a bunch of stuff, but I can't wait to see what happens next. So, we will talk mortgage stuff another time, maybe. You know? I wanted to ask you. Your specialty is mortgages.
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Have you ever heard of assignment assignment of future premium payments as a clause in a mortgage? Have you heard of that?
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No. No. But I wouldn't be surprised if something was in there.
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Wow. You have No. How long have you been messing around with mortgage? Mortgage note?
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Yes. Well, since that since since, 97.
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Okay. Well, this is what it this came up on the show one day. I I did real estate for a few years, and we had some people that brought this up and we're discussing it and then how empowering this is. And I got a friend down here who's in real estate for 20 something years. I was trying to explain it to him and he goes, hell, I've never heard. Well, it's really strange. Evidently, you can if you get the right contract, the right mortgage, they will allow any you allow you to assign future premium payments. Most of them allow them to assign them. So if you're gonna pay your extra payment well, I'm gonna tell you what it means. If you like pay and they they assign it, you pay an extra payment a year. You can drop a 30 year mortgage to a 15 year mortgage. One payment a year. But they assign it Yep. And they assign it at the back end. And the reason it drops it's because you're taking money straight off the principal and there's no interest.
Right? But in this, if that contract doesn't specify that they do it, then you can do it. So what you do is you pay your first principal, your first payment, which first 15 years all interest. Right? And then the second and third month, you can go in and take you don't have to pay the interest. All you can do is pay that little bit of principal and it counts as a payment. And, one of the guys is talking about a banker that figured this out and started getting these contracts and ended up a multimillionaire because he's paying off all these mortgages early on this selection of of future premium payments.
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So think about it because it's amazing to me. I've never heard of it before. Yeah. It is. I would love to know where I'm gonna go pull out my old mortgage contract after we get off and, and search through this thing. People call us both the note and the mortgage.
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Assignment of future premium payments. And instead of them putting it at the back end, you get to place it. Well, in a 30 year mortgage is what 360 payments, something like that. You can go off with payment number 2, payment number 3, and you come on pay another full payment, 4, and I get 56 or 7, or you can go in and pay those in advance, and all you have to pay is that little piddly ass bit of principal.
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Let's pull that words apart. So assignment of future
[01:47:15] Unknown:
interest? Premium. No. Future premium payments. Okay. Or prince no. Future principal payments.
[01:47:27] Unknown:
Assignment of future principal payments. I mean,
[01:47:30] Unknown:
if you pull that Yeah. You pull that apart, but I have not heard of that, Roger. Well, I listen. I never had either. Nobody that I've ever even mentioned it. 2¢ had. But, evidently, it's a real deal because one of our listeners used to have go out and help people do that with their mortgages. They'd pay them so much money and they go try and help them do that or set it up or something. Yes, Marco.
[01:47:53] Unknown:
I'm just gonna ask, did Dan fill complete, an affidavit
[01:47:58] Unknown:
with, your method or what I think he's real new. I don't think he has. Linda just turned him on to us. It's the 2nd time he's been with us, I believe. So I don't think he has, but I feel he's probably certain he will when he gets his arms around everything.
[01:48:16] Unknown:
Well, I I just need to see it. I don't know if I even have do you have a copy of it, miss Linda?
[01:48:21] Unknown:
Yeah. I can quote it to you. I'm just about quote it to you verbatim. It's on the website. There's a sample one. It's 2 paragraphs.
[01:48:30] Unknown:
What I'll I'll say don't be a slave, but that's what his name's website. Oh, you could do that basically, because I'm not a slave.
[01:48:37] Unknown:
The only thing you have, it doesn't really matter what you say, I've come to understand. It matters that you rebut the presumption. However you rebut the presumption, when you do that, you've effectively taken control. You can do it with a statement. I guess you can do it with an inference. You can do it as little as, I, Dan from Boston, do you solemnly swear my intent to be a national and not a citizen of the United States? And you send it to them, you're out. K?
[01:49:07] Unknown:
Because you rebutted this pre there's a number of cases. They said on travel.gov, isn't it? Yeah. At the very bottom. Exactly. At the very bottom.
[01:49:16] Unknown:
And so I'm I enlarge that a little bit and I go, I, Dan from Massachusetts, do solemnly swear under penalty of perjury of the law of the United States of America, my intent to be a US national with God given constitutionally protected rights and not a citizen of the United States in a condition of voluntary servitude under the scope and purview of the 14th amendment.
[01:49:43] Unknown:
That's the first paragraph. God, that's just so simple. That's so simple. I I need the document because I've been wanting to I wanna simplify the document I've been looking at for the past year. I I can't there's too there's too many things. And they all say about the same thing, by the way. It's all you know? So everyone's on the right track, but they all differ.
[01:50:03] Unknown:
Well, I can I can give you an interesting, thing? The second paragraph goes to IRS and says, as a national, I'm I'm deceptively listed at 26 CFR 1.1 dash 1 a as a nonresident alien, which is nonresident to the residency of the 14th amendment and alien from federal citizenship, and that's what we also send to the IRS. K? So, that's all that there is to it. There's no wiggle room for them there. Alright?
[01:50:38] Unknown:
Yeah. I sent them a decent sized letter to the IRS, along with the bill. I sent them a bill, and I never paid it, for half a $1,000,000. And then I and then I also told them, if you're gonna send me a bill or anything at all, I assure the absolute right to pay any legal tender whatsoever. That's what I told them. But But back to the national thing. But hold on. Let me say that. That had no effect
[01:51:01] Unknown:
if you didn't send it to the secretary of state first. You've got to do that first on anything else you're gonna do.
[01:51:13] Unknown:
The secretary of state did come after. It did come after.
[01:51:17] Unknown:
Okay. So, anyway, that's just and the reason for that is this the feudal system. That's what nobody
[01:51:24] Unknown:
understands. Mark, is that you trying to say something? Yeah. But he can send in his new affidavit with your method and send it to the IRS about it. It's Yeah. Yeah. I do.
[01:51:35] Unknown:
The system. Yeah. Basically, cancel and supersede whatever you sent in earlier. We do that with some people that aren't sure necessarily or certain about what they sent in, and they might not be comfortable with it, just send them another one. They can't see too many of these types of pieces of paper crossing their desks up there in DC for me. K? Roger? Yes. There's Larry. Hey, Larry.
[01:52:04] Unknown:
Hey. Couple of comments and a question, relevant to this discussion. You guys brought up Eddie Craig, and students really have to watch some of these guys and what they're saying because I I have this tendency to watch a lot of these YouTube videos on cops initiating traffic stops, and, they don't mess around. They they when they'll they'll ask for your license, and you you'll have some people say, well, I'm not gonna give you my license. And and the cop will say, if you don't give me a license, I will pull you out of this car. And so Eddie Craig is saying, well, don't show them a license.
Don't show them this. Don't show them that. And yet you have the threat of being harmed. And so, you know, I don't I don't think you should follow that information from some of these guys. That's my first comment. And, the other thing is as far as Anna Von Rice, she she teaches that all of the seats in congress are unoccupied. And I can't remember the exact verbiage she uses, but she says that congress adjourned, like, a 100 years ago, and so therefore everything that's been going on, you know, in congress is null and void. And, so that you know, I I think that's a bit extreme.
And then the the my question is on the on the passport book, you know how it says permit the citizen slash national of the United States to freely pass? Is that national referring to the American Samoan? Because an American Samoan can get a passport. And I believe you taught on a show, you dedicated a whole Saturday to discussing how the the the national, which is what we are, is hidden behind the the US citizen. And so I'm wondering if when it says permit the citizen forward slash national to freely pass, if that's not referring to the American Samoan
[01:54:15] Unknown:
I agree. And we are hidden behind that citizen. I think it's I think it's referring to both, Larry.
[01:54:21] Unknown:
Right. I agree, Roger. Hey, Raj. Because it's Yes. It's hitting it's hiding both of us behind the Yeah. The US all US just Yep. The US national state. Yep. You got that Bluetooth on again, Myrka.
[01:54:34] Unknown:
You got that Bluetooth on again. We can't hear you. Now better. Yeah.
[01:54:39] Unknown:
Okay. So the u the US citizen is hidden behind I mean, the, us, the nationals are hidden behind the US citizen, and they're talking about all 3 of us, the u US citizen, the national, and the and the United States Yep. National American Samoan.
[01:54:59] Unknown:
They pick and choose.
[01:55:02] Unknown:
The only reason they say it that way, Roger, is because they don't want people to know
[01:55:07] Unknown:
that there's a national of the United States of America. How how about this is what they should say, the passport is only issued to US citizens, US nationals, and non citizen national. They could specify it, but they don't. They hide it and blend them.
[01:55:24] Unknown:
If they didn't recognize all the status, why is it in organic structures at large? And why is the attorney general acknowledging a private individual?
[01:55:35] Unknown:
Because they want you they want you and your little daughter and even your basset hound to be their slave, Malcolm.
[01:55:44] Unknown:
Right. Exactly.
[01:55:47] Unknown:
Even old little Lulabelle? He even want Lulabelle.
[01:55:52] Unknown:
Hey, Rog. Hi, Roger. Paul. Hi, Roger? We got Paul first. Yep. No. Me first. Me first. Me first. And, Linda, I need you to to speak up and say something periodically because your automatic level control turns your your phone's mic way up, and it causes feedback. So if you're gonna be silent, either press star 6 and mute or say something, burp, whatever. It'll it'll stop that from happening. And, Larry, just to clarify That is true. What Anavon what Anavon Wright is referring to is when congress adjourns sign a die because the southern states walked out and they didn't have a quorum to legally and lawfully close congress and set a date for reconvene.
So after congress ceased to exist, then the congress became this governing body that only covers the 10 square miles of Washington DC. And United States citizens, under the 14th amendment, agreed to be governed by the governing body of Washington DC. And that's how how everything that congress has done since that day applies to US citizens. Does that make sense?
[01:57:08] Unknown:
Yeah. It makes sense. I don't see why in some none of the Supreme Court cases or anything make a reference to any of that. I mean, I understand what you're saying. They do. Oh, they do? Where?
[01:57:21] Unknown:
Yeah. Well, those I I don't Donald versus Goodwill. Exact language. The language was, from what we can tell, a second another class of citizen has citizenship has been created by the 14th amendment, and that's that's from from what we can tell the citizen, the US citizen, is property
[01:57:42] Unknown:
of the US government. Well, I have a bunch of cases have come to that conclusion. Federal citizens are not US properties. Yeah.
[01:57:50] Unknown:
Right. Okay. That's what I thought you were asking.
[01:57:53] Unknown:
Okay. Julie, you were trying to get in there a second ago? I know several people were, Dave, somebody else. But I'm gonna turn to Julie. Yes, dear. Yeah. I was just gonna say that, since I'm a new student, it's confusing to me when you use the word US Nationals because in that handbook that's on the page for the new students, it specifically says that US Nationals are the same thing as US citizens, and so I was told to drop the US and just use the word national. I was gonna ask you to clarify that because it says in that new student, handbook or that national handbook that US citizens and US nationals are property of the government and they're the under the feudal system.
[01:58:33] Unknown:
Well, there's a lot of conjecture even around here, Julie, on the the lengths they've gone through to obfuscate this. So let me take you back to the state department policy statement at the certificate of non citizen nationality, and it depends on which version you click up. Some of them it's in the second paragraph, some of them most of them it's in the third, I think. The very first of the third paragraph reads, according to the INA, now this is something Trump referred back to today, the immigration naturalization act. I heard him talking about it. According to the INA, immigration naturalization act, this is on this document, All, a l l, all US citizens are US nationals, but only a few US nationals are not US citizens.
Those are the Americans the most. Okay? Now supposedly, this whole policy statement was issued because people were asking for a document called the certificate of noncitizen nationality. Many of our people see that and take the head fake and think they're talking about us. But it goes on to say this is specifically for American Samoans. And because, you know, Julie, the cost of paper and ink has gotten so exorbitant that they don't issue you those anymore. And I'm not bullshitting you. It says that. Okay? They don't issue anymore, and they just advise you to go get a passport. Alright? So that's the body of that. And it says right there, all US citizens are US nationals.
We're about the show's over. I don't wanna leave this hanging. We had a lot of discussion on this, and it needs to be elaborated a little bit more. But we can't do it now, and I can't do it tomorrow because Brent's with us. So why don't we on top of,
[02:00:47] Unknown:
on top of
[02:00:49] Unknown:
the extra I don't know what the hell that is. Someone On top of the extracurricular construction activities, we will re adjourn on Saturday. And let's bring this up and start it on Saturday, and we can explain it more. K? Because this is urgent.
[02:01:10] Unknown:
I was gonna add something to that, but I'll make a note.
[02:01:14] Unknown:
Alright. So Julie will answer your question on Saturday, and it'll be a little bit involved because it's an involved question. And it's quite interesting, but I think well, I think the the answer is obvious, but you gotta get presented with the whole thing. And we're not I can't do it now. Okay? So we'll do that on Saturday, and I'll see, hopefully, all of you around with Brent tomorrow. And otherwise than that, we are done for this day, 23rd. And I've got lunch with Jack, and I gotta go get a mouth x-ray and all kinds of fun stuff. So let me go if you have no other questions, please.
Thank you. Stitch. You got the dinner bell. Thank you, sir. You're welcome, Julie. And, good to have you back, Dan, and, we'll, see y'all tomorrow with Brent. And if no one has anything for me at this point, I'm gonna say have a good day. So does anybody have anything for me that you can't wait for a little bit? Fantastic. I'll see you tomorrow. Check your email check
[02:02:20] Unknown:
your email. I sent you and Paul and Mark, an interesting email.
[02:02:25] Unknown:
Okay. Thank you, Tom. Have a good day. I'll see y'all, with Brent tomorrow and solo again on Saturday. So ciao ciao.
[02:02:32] Unknown:
Blessings.
[02:02:33] Unknown:
Bye bye. Thanks, Ryan.
[02:02:37] Unknown:
Love each of the hosta?
[02:02:41] Unknown:
Who who? What what?
[02:02:45] Unknown:
I just said it backwards.
[02:02:48] Unknown:
Oh. Hey, Paul. Yes? Hi. You'll go ahead if Tom wants to talk. Well,
[02:02:57] Unknown:
I No. I was just I was just joking.
[02:02:59] Unknown:
I was gonna mention on, I don't know if you heard, that there is the legislature at in the house of representative gave the National Archives the power determine to determine what was passed in the legislation. So when the 16th amendment is questioned, it's the archivist who makes the final determination if it was properly passed. Maybe this, relates to what you brought up, about, the legislature not being called back and not holding a quorum. Maybe there's a connection there. I don't know.
[02:03:50] Unknown:
Well, yeah. Could be. All I know is that that when congress adjourned and could not, because they didn't have a quorum, set a date for reconvene reconvening, that is the day the republic died. Right. That is the day because the governing body over it ceased to exist.
[02:04:19] Unknown:
Yep. I agree totally.
[02:04:25] Unknown:
Oh. But
[02:04:26] Unknown:
what what the power that was
[02:04:29] Unknown:
what's the power that was
[02:04:46] Unknown:
Sorry. Excuse me. I lost my line for a moment.
[02:04:51] Unknown:
He might be.
[02:04:53] Unknown:
I had a question about mortgage. I was reading where back in 2007, people stopped. Somebody said they stopped paying the mortgage. All they did was pay the mortgage insurance, and they lived in the house for 15 years. And, I don't know if we have the same, same right, if you will, because of the fraudulent pack package that the money system is, you know, starting in 18/60. And, to, to take that same strategy to to get rid of this whole, scam of of affordability and house formation, family formation, inflation, blah blah blah.
[02:05:38] Unknown:
Mhmm.
[02:05:40] Unknown:
I don't know. I don't know. But I I do know that a mortgage is nothing to mess with unless, of course, you have got all of your, i's dotted and t's crossed. Because, something as big as a house is, well, it's kinda dumb to jeopardize that on hearsay. Get better, have your ducks in a row.
[02:06:05] Unknown:
Just saying. Well, if you're interested if you're interested in that kind of stuff, check out, Dave Krieger at clouded titles dotcom. He's, having really good success with beating the crap out of these, mortgage companies.
[02:06:23] Unknown:
Deal.
[02:06:26] Unknown:
Yeah. People are, if people if people are forced into foreclosure because of job or money or illness or all that, what they're doing is they're filing a chapter 7 bankruptcy and then listing the home as an unsecured debt. Then that puts the mortgage company on the defensive, and then they've gotta prove that they actually are the holder in due course, and they can't. And they have a big problem with it.
[02:06:53] Unknown:
It's Dave Krieger.
[02:06:57] Unknown:
Yeah. It's called Clouded Titles. I think it's clouded titles.comor.org. I forget. I just I just didn't get on their mailing list and reads, but they got some really good articles.
[02:07:07] Unknown:
I think, yeah, just dotcom.
[02:07:12] Unknown:
Okay. May I?
[02:07:16] Unknown:
Sure. Go ahead. I don't see my I'm working on getting my mortgages canceled, but I'm not gonna stop going on. I'm gonna use the fraudulent part of the fact that the the bank never transferred consideration, and the promissory note was modified after you signed it, which makes your signature null and void.
[02:07:42] Unknown:
Are you working with somebody on that or is that your own research, Julie? That's that's my research.
[02:07:47] Unknown:
But when you, the bank never transferred any money at all, and they're supposed to have consideration in order to, have a valid, have have a valid contract. They never transferred consideration. And so, that makes it, null and void. But if you just do the promissory note, they deposit that deposited that that promissory note into a Federal Reserve Bank. So, after you signed it, they stamped the back of it and deposited it and then issued a bond and sold it at a discount. They never transferred any money. So, that makes everything void because it's fraud.
So so I'm trying to figure this whole thing out. Of course, I've been advised that you don't wanna sue the bank because they're all in on it. The judges are in on it, and and the lawyers are in on it. And if you know? So I may not have a success on it because we just have complete and utter lawlessness here now, but I'm gonna give it a try.
[02:08:49] Unknown:
Thank you.
[02:08:51] Unknown:
Well, actually, you guys think that you what I understand is that your signature actually creates the money that or the funding that, you know, creates the bond.
[02:09:02] Unknown:
Right. That's correct. But the problem is is you sign it, but then they modify it after you're done signing it without your permission or your consent, which makes your signature null and void.
[02:09:14] Unknown:
And and they transfer
[02:09:16] Unknown:
they transfer you to 16 different servers or just in
[02:09:20] Unknown:
the the 2 to 3 year period, and there's absolutely no chain of custody of documents. I mean, there's there's so easy ways to get get them, on their, heels, but, you know, every there's all kinds of different ways to try to put them on the chase.
[02:09:40] Unknown:
Absolutely.
[02:09:55] Unknown:
Okay. Well, this sounds like as good a time as any to take the station down now that I've actually been successful in relogging into Podom. This has been the Radio Ranch with Roger Sales, the Thursday edition. Please, don't miss Paul English live dotcom on or Paul English live. It's on, Paul English live dot com, radiosoapbox.com, and Paul English Live, the channel on Rumble. Thank you so much for joining us today. We are here 6 days a week, Monday through Saturday, 11 AM to 1 PM EST. Tomorrow, Brent Allen Winters joins Roger Sales for the Radio Ranch Friday edition, sometimes known as the Tasmanian Word Association Hour. For more information on the topics discussed, please go to the matrix docs.com.
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