In this episode of Radio Ranch, host Roger Sales dives into a variety of topics ranging from the significance of maintaining a positive outlook amidst global challenges, emphasizing the power of optimism and the belief that good ultimately prevails.
The episode also highlights the importance of acknowledging and appreciating the platforms and individuals that help extend the reach of the show. Roger and co-host Paul discuss the various networks and stations that broadcast their program, including Eurofolk Radio and Global Voice Radio.
As the conversation progresses, Roger delves into the intricacies of citizenship, personal liberty, and the importance of understanding one's rights. He shares insights on the historical context of citizenship laws and the impact of the 13th and 14th Amendments. The discussion touches on the complexities of the U.S. tax system, the significance of affidavits, and the process of correcting one's legal status.
Listeners are encouraged to engage with the content, ask questions, and explore the resources available on the matrix docs website. The episode concludes with Roger expressing gratitude for the community of listeners and their shared journey towards understanding and exercising personal freedom.
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Well, there we go, and we would also, mister Alvin Lee, and we're gonna launch into another session of trying to get some, some advantages going our way here on the Tuesday edition. Radio Ranch, name of our little get together. There's a story behind that. Roger Sales, your host. And, it is the, January 14th, Tuesday. A month away, it'll be February 14th, Sweetie's Day, so you better start getting prepared for that already. And, should you be in that situation, and a week from today, we'll have an, hopefully, a new sheriff in town, and things will be a little bit different. We'll see.
Very optimistic rather than be pessimistic where you look at the world in a total negative thing. I'd rather have a little brightness in my life and, hope for the best. Good always wins, and we, would like to applaud and, recognize the folks that help us extend our reach. There are these platforms that Paul and Alan and folks have put together that, simulcast this program. Paul, why don't you give them their proper credit this morning, if you would, sir? Identify them all for them. Of course.
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I I would be happy to.
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Yep.
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This being Tuesday? Brits?
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Yeah. We got the Brits Yep. Today.
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Yeah. We got the Brits today. This being Tuesday, we are also on, radiosoapbox.com for the first hour, anyways, as, well as 106.9 WBOU FM in Chicago. Mhmm. We're on that terrestrial radio station. Thanks to WDRN Productions, the Net family of broadcast services, which also brings us home network.tv, freedom nation.tv, go live TV, and stringlife.tube. Of course, our flagship station where it all began, the very beginning, was Eurofolkradiodot com or at least for this iteration of the Radio Ranch. I mean, there have been ex wives in the past. But That's right. But we need to kinda, you know, in a backhanded way, thank George Soros and the United Nations for,
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Eurofolk Radio.
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And why is that?
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Well, because they're the one that started and organized this European invasion that we saw first, and, that was the impetus for people to get real aggravated and put up a flagship station like Euro Folk Radio. That was the initiating event. Wow. Wow. Yep. Wow. Come to full circle. Now. And and now here, we started later than them and in our end and about a week from today is when we start kicking their little butts out.
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Yep. Right. Yep. And now we also have a Global Voice with, Global Voice Radio.
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Just look at what we're doing here. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We're covering it. All we need to do is grab some of these people by the earlobe and and yank them a bit. Go ahead.
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And we also have a 1,000 seat conference line that is integrated into the show. Mhmm. So if you wanna join us, come on down. And we have a 1,000 seats active right now and
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3,000 more waiting in the wings. Right. We're waiting for you, multitudes. You know, it was I don't remember how many months ago. Within the last year, John, one of our good listeners said, I think you've got the most important message in the world. I mentioned that on the air. Several of you agreed. If you're new, and haven't gotten your arms around all of this yet, I believe they're right. Personally, that's what's driven me all these years. I saw what this was very early. And been trying to inform folks, educating, and, let them know whatever decision they wanna make from here on. Don't criticize you. I've come to understand my job is just to inform you. You got a choice you didn't know you had. If you're interested, I can help you, see how it works, understand it to the point where you've got enough confidence, excuse me, to move forward.
So, we've had some pretty good shows here at first start of the year. Usually, it's kinda dead, and we've got some folks that tailed over from last year. We got some new folks jumping on this year, and it's very encouraging. All of us here on the forum love to see you new students because it reinforces us. And, as my teacher, John Benson, said so many years ago on that stage so correctly, the only way I can protect my liberty all the way down here in Ecuador is to help you protect yours. And most people I run across don't even have any idea what liberty is, honestly, nor how to achieve it.
And, the old Harriet Tubman quote, you've heard of this before, Paul, but it's just so, it it just it just hits it right on the head, really, when you think about it. Harriet Tubman said, I freed a 1,000 slaves, and I could have freed 1,000 more if they only knew they were slaves. Is that accurate?
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I do believe it is accurate, but if you consult Google or Snopes, the the, fact checkers of the Yeah. Internet at large. Well, Snopes is a
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is a known bogus deal, but go ahead.
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Right. Well, if you do I'm just I'm just warning you right out of the gate. I firmly believe that Harriet Tubman gets the credit for that. However, if you research it on the Internet, you will find that they say that it wasn't her. You know? Is there even Yeah. They would even go so far as to take that credit away from Harriet Tubman.
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Of course. They probably say that, you know, 19 Arab hijackers took down the Twin Towers. They say that too don't online, don't they?
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Yeah. But where's the jet engine? There were 8 jet engines in one city block.
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It's next to Otter's scorched passport on the sidewalk, you dummy. Okay. So, anyway, that's where we are. I liked that quote. I if she said it or not, great. It would be fitting that she would have, but whatever. Even if it was, you know, an an animus could have said it, and it'd still be applicable.
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I am going to posthumously
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attribute it to her. To And that's Okay. Give the old gal story and I'm sticking to it. Gal yeah. I give the old gal some credit. She did a lot of good work back then, and, we're trying to do good work for everybody now. It's not just black slaves. It's all kind of slaves. Man, we got all kind of ethnicities that are in this voluntary servitude deal, and you just don't know that's what you're in. You know? You just don't know that's what you're in. When they ask you the question that locks you in, you're kinda scared not to answer no, I think. That's the feelings I look back and realize that I had years ago. Even back after I knew this in the nineties, I'd see those questions that still didn't connect.
Boy, a few years down the line, we got that full circle. So, good morning, folks. We've had, we had a new guy on yesterday from Florida, Jacob, I believe. Jacob, you're with us again today? Jason. But, yes, I'm here. I'm I'm sorry. Jason, Jacob. I got another Josh hanging around, so I get him on the phone. Lots of j's around. That's okay. Yeah. Yeah. So, you've had a little time to noodle on the relatively brief conversation we had yesterday. You wanna pick it back up today? Have you got any questions or anything?
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Well, the I've I've just been wondering whether it's worthwhile to redo the, the declaratory statement on my affidavit for my passport or not.
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I don't think so. It sounds like from what you read me yesterday, I'm a state citizen, and I'm not a citizen of the United States. That rebuts the presumption right there. See, they can't overcome that.
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Okay.
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Alright. And the reason we got it, let's go back to the Bob. Let me go back to the basics of why. This is concept that's very important that people just don't know. It's been conditioned out of you, And that's the fact that this goes back to Vatel's Law of Nations, which was written in the middle of the 17 100. And one of the statements in there is that every man has the right of personal, political self determination. And what that means is you get to live under the laws you choose. And that's your decision, not theirs. If it's their decision going, you're gonna live here, then then that's tyranny.
And they don't ever wanna be open tyrants. And this is what they really gotten us on is the fact that they've stolen our power through this whole scheme of theirs from that right there. Of us having the power, then we've given it to them now. Well, what we're doing is helping you take that back. And you need to understand because you've been conditioned to be very fearful of these people with their SWAT teams and all their bogus authority and stuff, and we're just taking that back. And, and it's your choice, not theirs. And the the the more you can infuse that concept in, to your brain and your subconscious, the less fearful you'll be. And quite frankly, that's how they really control everybody's through fear.
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Yes.
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Yeah. I mean, it's all it's all done by fear.
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Pardon me? When I when I first started reading into this, yeah, there's a fair amount of fear because, you know, you don't know you don't know where you where you might step, and then you've got somebody knocking on your door.
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Right. Well, the best one the best example is IRS. You bring up IRS and say, oh, I knew somebody who got their house stolen. No. That can't be right. I don't want any part of that. Well, that's right. They've taken a lot of stuff. And, again, that's what tells me I don't know if you've got you you read my book. You probably got exposed to some of this, but one of their main tools is the remedy inside the Babylonia merchant code, the UCC, called self help remedies. Have you delved into that at all?
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Just just through the through your book.
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Okay. Well, most people don't know what they are. I didn't, certainly. But if you go say lean, levee, garnishment, seizure, people generally recognize 1 or more of those, and these are their weapons. Now there's all kinds of process that have gone into them getting to a point where they can just go grab things. And I think that's partially what makes people in our community think we're dealing with admiralty law is because it's kinda like prize that we were discussing, I think, yesterday or day before, which is the remedy in admiralty. You know? I I've I've got my job my my English flag up, and I see you over there, and I'm gonna bring my ship up next to you. And just about when we get close, I'm gonna yank that down and throw the jolly roger up. That's your notice.
And the right to be heard is I'm gonna try and board your ship and kick your ass and take your stuff. Okay? That's the process in Admiralty. Here, you got a whole bunch of process. There's some agreement that you sign somewhere that's got these things in it that allow them to use those remedies. There's only certain areas of law they can use those remedies. And, even though you didn't understand it, it was in the original contract that you signed. And so that I've thought over the years is what partially puts this fear in people because they don't understand this, self help remedy deal. It's really, it's really a very valid way to do things. But like everything else that they can twist and turn and manipulate, they've, weaponized it.
They're very good at that. So, anyway, that's a that's a real important thing, to understand, and I think that that's what scares people an awful lot, quite frankly. You know, it was those remedies. We were talking about this the other day. It was those remedies, self help remedies, since the institution of the Babylonian merchant code. They've been around a long time, and it was those remedies that changed the Roman law from basically the Roman common law to the combination of common law and and merchant law, which is called the Roman civil code.
And it was the incorporation of these remedies and the rest of the body that goes behind them into the Roman law that combined them, and, it's been happening ever since. That's what the United States Code is. It's this blending of those 2. Do you do you understand what I'm talking about there? Yes. It's very okay. Well, yeah, it was in my book. It was in the book, so you read it. Yeah. Anyway, it's, there's a lot here. It's deep. You find out the deeper you take a layer off the the bigger liars, murders, thieves they are, and now we got them right by the short hairspray.
It's just a joy. I can't believe that we've got this. To my knowledge, no one else in the history has ever had this on them before, this tight. K? So, anyway, it's a it's a thrill, and I'm pretty dedicated and committed to this is the project in my lifetime. I feel like this is the reason that God put me on this earth, and I can look back over my previous life and all the experiences I had, add some dimension to what we're doing right here, that allows us to do this. And I'm tickled to death to step up and grab the group, pick up the gauntlet, and go after these sorry bastards.
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Yeah. Yes, sir. They are sorry bastards.
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And the more of them, the more of us that we can get, the the the better chance we got of doing damage to them. So anything else?
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I was one of those in this in the in the camp of of I used to I used to think that that admirality maritime law was applying, until until recently, until I came across some of your stuff. And then I realized that it's really the mer the law merchant that that Yep. That's become UCC that that applies.
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Have you seen that little scan that we put up on the on the web here fairly recently last couple of months? We talked about it. 1 of the gals kept urging me to go get it scanned, and I did, and it's on the website somewhere. But it's all the breakdown of these bodies of law. What the body of law is, common law, equity, ecclesiastical, admiralty, maritime, and it's all of those. And every one of those bodies of law has different characteristics. What they call the presiding officer's different. What the labels for, actions are, are all different.
Oh, and especially what the remedies are. And this is where that formula feeds in to become so important because you never hear anybody in the patriot community very, very rarely if ever talk about remedies. Oh, they're real big on rights. They don't know what they are. They call them constitutional rights when the only rights that document gives you are civil rights under the 14th amendment. So they even mislabel it, even our best attorneys, unfortunately. This is how deep this goes. Okay? But and they they they occasionally will mention duty, but they virtually never mention remedy. And it's as important as the other 2. So these are the things that I wouldn't know if John wouldn't have taught us. And like I said, he's been a whole most of his adult life study in the old laws that they just don't teach in law school anymore. Maybe occasionally, not often.
So that's our advantage here. And once you learn this, it might be new. You have to get your brain's synapses firing again. But this is what I can promise you. If you'll learn these basics, these bastards can never fool you again. If that's an incentive enough for you, there you go.
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Oh, yeah. I mean, all of my life, I've known that that something was wrong, and I couldn't put the pieces together. Yeah. And then then then slowly, particularly after 2020, once the once the COVID hit, I've had time to do research, and and the pieces of the puzzle started falling together, and I and I realized that this was the problem. You know, the separation the the 2 separate jurisdictions. I you know, I I've I've talked to my family and friends about it, and, I've quite literally lost a lot of lost some friends, and my family looks at me like I'm crazy, and I get the You're headlights look. And I'm the headlights look. Look, I can show you.
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I can show you. They don't wanna see. You didn't lose friends, you lost acquaintances. Right. Right. If they were friends, they'd stick by you. And it's just like Brezhnikov, I think was his name, that, Yuri Brezhnevov, the Russian defector that did that interview with, g creature from Jekyll Island guy, so many years ago. Yeah. Oh, Griffin. Griffin. Right? Gee, Edward Griffin. Have you seen that interview?
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Yes. It's been a long time, but I have seen it.
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And he says right there, he said when it gets to this whatever stage it is, demoralization or something, he said you can put the facts right in front of them and they can't see them. That's what we're experiencing right there, I believe. So that's why that's why do you under starting to understand why I treasure each and every one of you so much? Because, man, look at what I've had to go through to get this message, try and get it out there. Go suffer all that stuff you're talking about. And here all these years later, we got this core group of people that that I didn't rope you in here. I didn't make you be here. You're here because it resonated with you and you wanna learn more. And even though you might be new and not understand any of it, hardly, you know there's something of great substance here, and there is.
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Yeah. I'm I'm kind of hoping that, have you ever heard of the 100th month monkey syndrome?
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Of course.
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I'm kinda hoping it's gonna be a little bit like that. That once you there's enough people who start to understand what what what has happened and and the status of the national, that it will it will snowball. It will almost be like the 100 monkey syndrome. Once enough people know, then they it's like a, subconscious flow of information. They start realizing that there's that everything that they knew was wrong, and they start paying attention.
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Yep. Well, what I've kinda hoped, and I've been delving through. I would've thought it would've taken off when I got on Joyce Riley. You know, Joyce had a pretty good listening audience of patriots, 5,000,000 at least worldwide. And I was on there three times, but I couldn't explain. I didn't under I understood it, but I couldn't explain it like I can now. I've learned through giving these shows over and over and over again. You you learn. The best way to learn this, by the way, is to teach it to others. And, I would have thought it would have taken off at that point. It did a little bit, maybe not much.
But, with some of our people today, Samuel is here because of that and several others, I think, maybe heard those, shows originally, and but it didn't. And, all these years later and then that's been my burden is to try and simplify it where I can get it across easily, and people on the receiving end can uptake it as quick as possible. Because what happens is, as you've seen in your own personal experience, you stumble onto this, your whole world changes. Everything about your world starts flipping a 180 degrees, and you just can't absorb that overnight. It it takes a while for it to really soak in, and and you'll be going along and doing something and thinking about something, and all of a sudden you go, damn. That's why that's like that. And you've made the connection, you know, on some dots. And it just takes a little time, and that's why I've it's been, I've I've been really frustrated to try and simplify this as much as possible.
But now I realize there's other elements involved. It's this Brezhnev cough thing about how condition the recipient is. And the fact that, you know, a large group of people have never accomplished anything, really, except to vote your hand their hands in your pockets. So we only had 3 to 5% maximum at the founding of the country that wanted to fight King George. So, evidently, we don't need a overwhelming part, but we need to get that core some percentage. And and, of course, the big weakness here is not only the exposure to them, if you could get it on a big platform, but also us yanking ourselves out of their tax system, because that's gonna put direct pressure on them right there.
So I don't it's all these things, and we just have these shows. And it's great for me because I'm, you know, old, and I'd be sitting around twiddling my thumbs if I didn't have this. I love what I'm doing. It makes my life more purposeful than anything I've ever done. And, boy, that to lead a life of purpose, we should all strive for. K? So it it just gives you an awful lot of positives, and I guess I've come to the conclusion that I'm not in any hurry, because I've come to learn that I can't influence this. This is God's work. So it it with that in mind, what I have to figure is that what we're supposed to do is I can't open the door. It's too heavy. I've been trying for 15 years. It just doesn't work. You know? And so I've had to turn it over to the big guy and just sit back and say, well, I'm not supposed to just sit here and mark time.
So I'm gonna go out and try and build a solid foundation of educated people as we can attain. And when the time's right, god's ready to open the door. That's why I call that video god's trump card. When he's ready to open the door and things get really of whatever the situation they're gonna get, and you plop this message down in front of an audience well, let's just say like Alex, 30,000,000, 20,000,000 people. How many people in his 20 to 30,000,000 audience you think would be receptive to this?
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Yeah. Not not not many.
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Well, Noah, his audience, I well, not not necessarily. I think of his audience, it'd probably be a greater percentage, but how much do we need? I figured that we I've influenced at least over 2,000,000, people doing this. And I can tell you the reason I think that is because when John and Glenn were getting tried there over that 4 or 5 year period, and they didn't try them on any of this stuff. Okay? It was all they had 90 counts against Glenn, and they had gotten involved with a Canadian gal who was doing some kind of stock market thing. And a bunch of it was associated with that. And anything that they could conjure up, they're gonna throw against the wall because they wanted these guys off the street. Alright? And and the reason for that after they got, after they got raided by IRS, they went left Vegas and went back to Salt Lake, and, they started running for office.
And John was running against Orrin Hatch, the big senator at that time, and Glenn was running against one of the representatives. And they were out on the campaign trail talking all this tax stuff. And, buddy, they wanted them off the street. Okay? And so with their legal prowess, it took years because it was at the district court level in, in Salt Lake. And, you know, it wasn't a tax case because it was a local, US attorney that handled the case and not a tax specialist. If you're in a tax case, they fly in a tax specialist from DC. So every time they get to a point in that trial and they could have an objection, they'd write an objection and set up to the 9th the 10th circuit in Denver. And so the whole thing would get put on hold until that was docketed, heard, addressed, decided on, and sent back to Salt Lake. So it took them years, okay, to get these guys.
But, Glenn told me after he got out of jail, we could talk more. He said at one point during the, trial, this affidavit came up, and the US attorney stood up in open court and said the IRS has gotten over 100,000 of these. Now there was only 1200 people that paid to go through the course that could should have filed them. But that shows you the patriot community right there, and that was 30 years ago. K?
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So, I think you're I'm You're talking about the Alex Alex Jones show. Right?
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Yes.
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Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I don't think I think I mean, he would have a far higher percentage of his listeners that would that would start grasping on it.
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Oh, yeah.
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The the Right. I I still think that, like, the the the people's minds are so set in Oh, well, I agree. In one way that it's it's it's it's like it's like it's it's it's a herculean effort to get to get them to turn and look the other angle.
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Well, see, that's not your job, and that's one of the other things I've come to understand. It's not my job to convince them or get them to do anything. It is my job to do the watchmen on the wall prophecy from the Old Testament and tell them there's danger coming. And this is what it is. If they don't do anything with it, the Bible tells us the blood's on their hands. But if I don't tell them, the blood's on my hands. So I have reframed my motives and the way that I approach this. So it just I'm just telling you guys about it. If any of you wanna respond, I'm here. I'll put my hand out as far as I can to grab yours and help you. K? But if you don't pay any attention to it or wanna call me ugly names and things, we'll you know, as we say in Spanish, and that means good luck. Okay? I'm I'll pray for you maybe, but I tried to tell you, you wouldn't listen. Your deal, your decision. See you later. Bye. If you have any questions, get a hold of me.
And and and in switching my in switching that attitude for me, it takes all the pressure off of me. The frustrations I used to get because people couldn't understand it and all those things. And now it's just my job to tell you you got a choice you didn't know you had. If you wanna respond to it, it's your freedom. If you don't wanna respond to it, it's your almost freedom. Yeah.
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Yeah. I've kind of adopted the policy that if you know, I'll drop the hints and and sort of open the door. And if they don't bite, then I just I I just, I just Are you just going? I keep going, because, you know, you end up you you end up alienating. Even your personal relationship.
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You you do. And well, listen. This message has busted up families, businesses, divorces. I've seen it for 30 years, you know, and I know what a disrupting force it can be. And yet, on the other hand, there are advantages if you're a couple. And one of you wants to live in Babylon and the other wants to live outside. There's some advantages to that situation too or could be for you. And, so but it really has alleviated a lot of pressure on me when I found that difference and moved over and said, well, gosh, if something happens, great. If not, I've helped free some of the slaves, and and, we're we're gonna hopefully follow the biblical directive of come out of her, my people. Come out of her. Here, you're coming out of her politically and, possibly financially, spiritually, and health wise maybe.
But it's up to you. It's not my decision. And here's the other bad part. You see, here's why I can't do it. Because the only thing that changes here is you. When you file this paperwork, nothing changes. The world goes on just like it always has. Your neighbors aren't gonna come up and congratulate you, throw you a party. None of that's gonna happen. So if the world doesn't change when you do this, then there's gotta be some change. Well, that means you gotta be the change. There's no other choice. That means study and learn the information. That's the only way you're thinking and subconscious changes. And if you don't really want what's here and wanna do this, well, you're not gonna do that. And if you're not gonna do that, nothing's gonna happen. That's my problem with charging people for this. Because if you were to pay me, I said, hey.
You know, stroke me a grand, and I'll send you the magic paperwork. And so, you do that. I get a $1,000. You're you're less a $1,000. I'm up a $1,000. And you take it and send it in as I instruct you to, but you paid somebody to do this for you. You're not gonna sit down and do all the study. So in this instance, nothing changes except that amount of of of debt, Federal Reserve notes from your account to mine. And I'm in here to affect change. So it's counterintuitive for anything that I want to accomplish, and that's why I don't do it.
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Right.
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K? I want you people to learn that you pay me by learning this information and making it part of you. And because the problem we've got is an education problem. Oh, we got a Jew problem. Alright. We got all their m a j I k freemason crap problem and equivocation and all their tricks. But the real problem is we've been dumbed down and we're not educated. K. Ask people you know, all these people that come up and you that maybe get confronted with this, they don't know what a citizen of the United States is. Some of these are highly educated people. They don't know what that's a federal citizenship that was mainly, predominantly for former black slaves.
They don't have any idea of that. So, like I said, it's got it all goes back to education every time. And then it's just a simple thing of going through as many of the masses as we can get with the old the 3 sw's. You know? Some will, some won't. So what? Next. You're planting seeds. Occasionally, you're gonna get a Julie, And and you're gonna get some of these dynamite folks that are attracted to this message. They're wonderful people. They're truly truth seekers. It's just like it says back there in Ecclesiastes or whichever one, for they have not a love of the truth.
I will send them strong delusion. They'll believe a lie. So those are the people we're talking about that look at you and call you names. They believe the lie. And, boy, they believe it wholeheartedly. And some of them, you can't shake it out of it. And if you totally dedicated your life to that one person in this message, you'd never be successful because they don't wanna hear it or they can't hear it. 1 of the 2. So, we're tickled to have you. And as questions come up and grow in here, you let us know. But I I think that you could just consider that passport thing a done deal. Because it's not what you say. It's how you say it.
Right. All you're doing is rebutting a presumption you fraudulently agreed to. You're backing out of that. They can't say a word about it, and they've gotta recognize it. It's what I've come to learn. I know it's hard to believe. These guys wanna show you they're so powerful and so influential, and and they control everything. And you see, this is the great lies. They don't. They know it. We don't. That's why they're always so conscious about, oh, who's standing up to us? They're always trying to infiltrate groups and find out it's to take down these leaders. They're very sensitive to this because they know they're on real thin ice. Oh, we've broken the ice, you bastards, and the genie can't be put back in the bottle. You've been caught. I don't know how long it's gonna take us to catch up with you, but it's coming at some point. I may not be here.
It may be after I'm gone, but somebody's gonna come and grab your ass and confront you with this. You slaving, lying, murdering, satanic pieces of garbage because that's what you are. I hate you. Please put me on your hate list. Please. Pretty pleased with gafelta fish on it. So Yep. Anyone else got anything? I've been we've been commanding the first part of the show here. Anybody have anything you want to add on that or ask or anything? Morning, everybody. Roger. Oh, listen, mister Smith. Alright. Let's go then. I'm gonna get Larry. Yeah. Go ahead.
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What is your take, when it comes I mean, yeah, there's a number of different types of law, and I see a lot of things written about the yellow fringe flag. Does that mean a particular type of law? Do you No. There's no
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everybody see that? No. There may be. It doesn't it doesn't have any effect on us because people are insinuating that that's the reason they've got control over you, but it's not. Okay? It might represent that to some effect. It does, represent a, a, military, code. But you know what? Really, I think if you had admiralty an admiralty question, it could be tried in the courts. But you never have an admiralty question. Okay? So, no, none of those things to me make any difference because what we're looking here for is what's the nexus. Right? What caused this condition to happen where they've got this control on me? Why can that man over there who wasn't even elected, he was appointed as a bureaucrat, how can he make man made laws, which regulations are, and enforce them on me? What gives him that power? That's the question.
K? And that's what we deal with. And once that yeah. There may be gold fringe flags all over, but they don't apply to us. You know, it's not am I a person. It's I'm not that person or which person am I. So that's been the big confusion. Our whole movement for as long as I've been in it has been looking for the answer we've got right here. What are the 2 dots that connect where I can shed this? Well, they're like a tick on you or something. They're a parasite. Well, we've got that. Those other things you can ballet at the moon on the gold fringe flag is never gonna make any difference. All this all capital letter stuff, I don't believe it makes any difference. The proof of that, the 7th Circuit in Chicago, the appellate level up there, just, fairly recently put out a memorandum to all the courts underneath that in that circuit to not use capital letters anymore.
It was too difficult to read.
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Okay? Which court was that? So
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7th Circuit.
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7th Circuit. Okay.
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That's in Chicago. Hey, Roger. I got a little I got a little information for you about the gold.
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Okay. It's in Allen, is it?
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No. Danny.
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Tennessee. Oh, Danny. Well, you sounded like Allen. We hadn't heard Allen in so long. I'm just about forgotten his voice. How are you doing, Danny?
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Well, when I used to live down in the Houston area, they would occasionally have, certain trials. Well, not to hold trial, but scenes from the courtroom for some of the big cases, you know, like a murder trial or something. They'd have a little clip there. Well, I happen to notice whenever I was at one of these courtrooms, it always had the gold but when it was a significant crime, like murder, it didn't have the gold French flag. Okay. Is that your And and this is not this is not quite the same thing, but you're talking about the all caps, sort of a related kind of thing. A friend of mine told me about getting a, bank account in up a bank account, and they brought in a signature card.
And the thing that he did was he scribbled out the x on the signature line and then signed it. At a little while, the, teller brought it back, but the manager would like him to, you know, fill that out again. So he did that, and he scribbled out the x again and signed it. Then she came back afterwards and and said that he he had the manager had said that if if he didn't stop that, they weren't gonna give him the, account.
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Well, maybe just like you think like it. You mean, like, x where they say x marks the spot? X marks the spot, and you write your signature? Yeah. Okay. Well, she may have been, like, one of these government officials says don't be defacing government forms. And the next time you go and talk to somebody and tell them the story, they grab the form from you and say let me do that, honey. And they scribble out the x and submit the damn thing. So those are all to be procedural craps and people's hang ups.
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Could be, but x is supposed to be the the mark of a a someone incompetent like a
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and they have somebody else sign for it. Alright. Let here's the question. Does anything like that override your affidavit with the secretary of state? Oh, no. I'm not in that. I'm just saying Alright. Then it then it does well, I'm just saying this for the audience. If it doesn't override or affect your affidavit, it don't make a jack crap. It's great for speculating. We could talk about it. I've been hearing this in the patriot community for about 35 years now, however long it's been, and none of it ever works. You've never seen anybody with a victory. It causes contention.
And, I wanna go back to this affidavit and this condition of voluntary servitude and what correction. If it doesn't interfere with that process, I don't really care about it.
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Roger.
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So, Danny, you get my drift here? Danny, did you go away? Danny, get pissed off and leave? Anyway, that's the way I feel about that stuff. I'm real vocal about it. So thank you, Danny. Larry?
[00:44:07] Unknown:
Yeah. I was just, wanting you to mention to I think it's Jason you're talking to?
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Yeah.
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Correct? Yeah. Yeah. That,
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one sentence on one piece of paper Mhmm. Written to one guy using crayon and a napkin can remove you from the jurisdictional control of 438 federal agencies. That's the current number on the federal register.
[00:44:37] Unknown:
Oh, is that right? Okay. I thought it was over 600.
[00:44:41] Unknown:
Yeah. No. If you go to the Federal Register and and, you know, you look at the count, it's 438. And, of course, they include agencies like the ATF, the FBI, and the IRS. Even though we know the IRS is not an agency, they they are a bureau of the Department of Treasury.
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It's your law enforcement. In there also.
[00:45:03] Unknown:
But yeah. All and the US Attorneys, they are all the lead, law enforcement, officials that enforce all of the laws of the United States, and that includes all of these laws that are under all of these 4 100 and 38 so called laws, man made laws and regulations under these 4 100 and 38 federal agencies.
[00:45:29] Unknown:
They they refer to them internally as little laws. Little laws. And and and here's what's happening. As this administrative street, state, Behemoth, has grown, From that, go to Black's Law Dictionary. Look under the bank holiday in 1933. And it'll say the treasury closed for 5 days, this, that, and the other. It was reopened under the sec under regulations, promulgated or whatever by the, new secretary of the treasury. They don't say new. They just say by the secretary of the treasury. That's the first regulations right there.
And they didn't have any administrative process, no federal register, no APA, or anything. But they evidently had gone into the bankruptcy, and they put the secretary of the treasury in to oversee the bankruptcy because there wasn't one before that. There was a treasurer of the United States, but there wasn't a secretary of the treasury, and there damn sure weren't any regulations. So those were the first ones. And from that little humble beginning there, they have grown into this monolith of tyranny. And so what the administrative state is supposed to do is to be the interpreter of public policy.
You've heard that phrase, might not have known what it was. I quite I couldn't figure it out for years. Public what's public policy? Well, it's it's these regulations, these little laws made by these bureaucrats that are appointed and not elected that apply to the service. That's public policy. We're private citizens. After we file this paperwork, we're not under public policy. That's why the administrative agencies don't have any effect on us. K? And so, so that grew and grew and grew, and then they started having clashes in court as they tried to get the, the the the underpinnings of this new system in place.
Some of the old constitutional people gave them problems. There was no rules for them to follow, And they didn't really, in fact, pass the rule book, the Administrative Procedures Act, and that is codified at title 5, United States code section 552 and following. And that's the Administrative Procedures Act. And that's how did they do this because they're going, okay. Well, this isn't unconstitutional. It's extra constitutional because we're in bankruptcy. K? And I wanna thank Bob for that. Bob is the one that came up with that one day. It's very accurate. And so in 1946, even after World War 2, they finally passed that Administrative Procedures Act. And it's how these regulations are the legal word is promulgated.
How these regulations are promulgated and who do they apply to? And that's the rules that that piece of legislation lays down, and then they come in and they misuse it. And the perfect example was the mask mandate from CDC during COVID, because that was not a regulation that they could apply to everybody, but, yeah, they did. And that's what the court case down there right by you, in, one of, of justice Thomas' law clerks, actually, a female that's sitting on the federal bench. And she ruled against that because she identified the regulation as interpretive.
Only applies to the CDC. Everybody in CDC would have been had to wear a mask, but nobody else. And they went and applied it to everybody else, which is called a substantive regulation. There's 3 types. And the substantive regulation has a specific due process process it has to go through because it's the only of the 3 types that have the power of what's called general applicability, which means it applies to everybody. And the way you identify you mentioned the federal register a minute ago, Larry. As you go to the federal register, these regulations are promulgated daily.
The federal register is, is though the federal government's legal organ where legal things are posted. And the reason they're put there is because it fulfills the first part of due process. Notice. We're giving you notice. This is our legal organ. It's the federal register. If you ever wanna find out anything of what the federal government is doing and these agencies are up to, that's where you look. K? And and if it's one of these substantive regulations, there's a specific process called notice and comment, an additional layer of due process because of the danger of these rogue bureaucrats taking over and doing things.
It's an extra layer of due process, notice, and the right to be heard. So they put in the regulation. Notice, big bold letters. You can find it. Notice of proposed rulemaking. So they're giving you notice. They list the rule. At the end of it, they'll have a person to contact, and they'll say you got 30, 60, 90 days to get your comments in on this proposed regulation. And you send it to this person at this address, and you do that, and at least theoretically, they're supposed to get together with all those comments and revamp the regulation and then they publish it again, but the heading is notice of final rulemaking.
So you got notice of proposed rule making. Let's get some comments. Let's get some due process operating because this applies to everybody. And then we're gonna go through what we're supposed to do. We're gonna bring it out as a final rule. And then they'll give you the rule and then it can't take effect for another 30 or 60 days. Okay? So that's the process, but only if the regulation is general applicability applies to everybody. And that's what that judge found. It wasn't one of those. They hadn't gone through all that. They just did an interpretive regulation and then lied to everybody. But then again last fall, when they were thinking about releasing this thing again and, the I forget which agency, the one that TSA, they did a mask mandate.
And guess who wore the mask? Their people in the airports. Now they went back because of the court decision even though Biden said they were gonna appeal it. They never. And they went back and wrote this regulation this last fall, but they applied it correctly. It only went in masked TSA agents. So this interpretive thing, this administrative state is the big well, it's the deep state. That's what's going on. Okay? And they're supposed to take you elect representatives, you elect a senator, they go up there and they make these laws, and once they've done that, they put them out, president signs them, and then they turn them over to the administrative agency that's got subject matter jurisdiction over whatever that legality is, and they reinterpret the laws passed by the senators, house of representatives, signed by the president. They reinterpret it. They take it on themselves to reinterpret it and put it out. And sometimes, it can be a 180 degrees opposite of whatever the original intent was legislation.
Well, all that's changed. Last fall, we had some big decisions at the Supreme Court on administrative agencies and their process. It's called the Chevron deference, which means they could do anything they wanted, basically, interpret it any way they wanted it because they're the experts, quote unquote, supposedly. Well, the Supreme Court overturned that. The SEC was appointing its own judges in its own, administrative courts. And the other case was, that brought this, finally to the court was down there. I think it must have been in Florida. It was a fishing company, small mom and pop fishing company. And one of these agencies that has to do with that subject matter had passed a regulation that they had to have a a somebody they hired out of their own pocket onboard their fishing vessel to make sure they were paying attention to the regulations.
But they had to pay for it. Federal government was requiring it, but they weren't gonna pay for it. Those two decisions right there, 1 the SEC and the other, this one, has really hampered the administrative state and is, like, set it up for a softball coming over the plate for Trump. So we'll see. He's threatened to get rid of a bunch of them starting probably with the, Education Association. Turning everything like like RV Wade and turning that back over to the states. Yes, sir. Was that a female there?
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It's Merka.
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Merka. What you got? How's how's California today?
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It seems okay right now. Yeah. Good. The winds are gonna I'm sure again. No. No. It's not windy right now. I just wanted to say, you know, how we always say that, they can't see enough of the affidavits Correct. Secretary of state. I I'm I told Jason in in the chat that he would the lord of the matter would love to see his affidavit removing himself from the US system.
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Jason, if you, you I mentioned the IRS stuff to you yesterday. It would be I I think your affidavit with the post with the passport's fine. Okay? So you don't have to spend that $30 and redo that. But since you didn't send one to the Secretary of State initially, and you want a good foundation to do all this other stuff you're that we suggest you do, you don't have to, I would take my the sample affidavit that's got specifically that IRS paragraph in there, and just resubmit it to the old secretary of state. And you might even you could even say this is canceling and superseding my previous affidavit with the passport number so and so, whatever. But it's giving you a real firm foundation to do the rest of the stuff to finish this off. And it's interesting. I had a consultation with a guy over all this stuff last night. So, anyway, you could just take the affidavit or declaration. You change it to declaration. It works that way too.
Send it to old, about to be mister Rubio, a Florida state senator. He's about to go in there, I think, next week, probably. And, so we got somebody new to address it to. It's not winking, blinking, and not anymore. But then you could take that with that IRS paragraph and notify, whichever state you're not working in Florida. You're just kinda down there some wintering. Right? Do you work in Virginia when you're back up there?
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Yeah. I'm just I'm just hiding from the winter right now. I'll be back in March.
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Okay. Well, if you could put that state on notice and stuff and key in with the IRS, that sets you up for doing your revocation of elections should you wanna do that and claim the last 3 years that you paid in? Even though it was couple years ago, I believe it's still applicable to you. And then all the state officials, is this your regular pattern of wintering in Florida?
[00:57:47] Unknown:
It has been, but I, I I used to own a place in Land O' Lakes, an RV an RV spot in Land O' Lakes. So I was out for the past, 10 years. I've been going back and forth The past 2 year I sold that place in the past 2 years. I've just been coming down to a place near The Villages for the winter. But yes. I mean, I usually, I try to get down here because I was self employed, and then 2020 hit. And, I had some illness, and my life turned around. And so at this point, I may even be moving moving from Virginia to one of the southern states, Florida, Alabama.
I'm not sure yet. Texas. Uh-huh. I'm not sure.
[00:58:35] Unknown:
All those good. Northeast Alabama is very nice. Eastern Tennessee, right there above Chattanooga is a lot of desolate stuff up in there. Nice people. Nice part of the country. Florida Panhandle. Have you checked out the Florida Panhandle yet?
[00:58:52] Unknown:
My brother is up there, and I'm probably heading up there in the next 2 weeks. So Where where is he? Where is he? He is in Eglin Air Force Base, for Orland Beach.
[00:59:03] Unknown:
Yep. Know it well. I'm from about 45 miles to the east there from Panama City, Bay County. It's a lovely part of the country. A very a lot of very conservative people. If you like beach life, the some of the most beautiful beaches in the world, tremendous fishing. And, even in the winter, they it does get cold occasionally, but not, but, not as much as Virginia. So that's another option for you, all those all those. Dave and Kaye that have our our website, escapes me a second. But they live right there, in low Southern Alabama right above Fort Walton in that area.
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Okay. Yeah. I'm I'm I'm probably gonna go over towards Gulf Shores as well and and check out that area and see if I like it. Yes. Southern Alabama. Yeah. Orange Beach is nice down there. Again, very good fishing.
[01:00:00] Unknown:
So are you fishermen by any chance?
[01:00:03] Unknown:
If I have the time.
[01:00:05] Unknown:
Okay. Okay. Well, we got we don't have the time for Chicago anymore because there's the Whistler, which signifies that, that our our limey friends and our Chicagoland friends. We're gonna cut you off, aren't we, Paul?
[01:00:22] Unknown:
Exactly. Well, we're not cutting them off. They cut us off at the top of the first hour. So Thank you for clarifying that. Yes. Go ahead. Go to the matrix docs.com to follow us into the second hour, or just, punch up Eurofolksradio.comor, live.globalvoiceradio.net, and you can follow us right into the 2nd hour. 106.9 WVOU FM Chicago, and Radio Soapbox, we love you. Thanks. Yeah.
[01:00:56] Unknown:
Yep. Come visit soon. Okay. Back to the forum. I mentioned did anybody have quick question. Alright. Great. That's what I'm looking for right there. Quick. Okay. I'll get you ma'am after we talk to the gentleman there. Yes.
[01:01:11] Unknown:
I'm sorry. But we we were talking about the the the extra things that you can do where you can send your affidavit, people who you can send your affidavit to, sort of like a Right. Extra cover.
[01:01:23] Unknown:
Well, what's your your password. I'm glad. Thank you for bringing me back on track. Ma'am, we'll get you in a second. The this is the second part of it. You're dealing with the feds on the front end, and you're dealing with this your state on the backside. And because that's where you live, you're weaponizing it, and you're doing this due process thing on them. So what you wanna do is take and this one, again, why you're gonna establish a good firm affidavit because you're gonna take a copy of that. You're gonna send it to your state people. And that's gonna be structured in this manner.
Because it is the head law official in the state, you're gonna send the main letter to the state attorney general. K? And then at the bottom, you're gonna cc or we suggest that you do anyway, excuse me, your local sheriff, your local chief of police, if you've got one, your local district attorney, the guy that dockets cases for judges to hear, and we used to say the local public health official, but I don't believe we're gonna be seeing any shot mandates coming. That's probably not necessary. At this point, you can always add them later if that does. But you're just gonna basically send them a copy of that affidavit, and you're gonna do a short cover letter of the please be informed, or to who it may concern, whatever, that please be on notice that this affidavit is on file with the Secretary of State of the United States of America.
Please adjust your records, your actions, and any records, your actions, and your agents' actions accordingly. Pretty simple. Okay. Okay? Now, at the top of the letter, you're gonna put big bold letters, lawful legal notice, and underneath that you're going to put this phrase from the laws of agency: notice to the principal is notice to the agent, Notice to the agent is notice to the principal. Now they're all agencies, and there's a whole law dealing with agency. And it you've locked them all together with this official due process. Now here's what happens theoretically, conceptually.
You get a ticket from your local sheriff and the DA dockets it. If they've been put on notice, the sheriff would lose his cloak of immunity because he's been put on official notice this has happened. And in his job, he knew or should have known that you are now persona non grata, not in their grasp. And then because the DA got delivered that ticket and docket it when it shouldn't even have been heard because it doesn't apply to you, they lose their cloak of immunity and can be sued in their personal capacity. And because you've locked them in through the laws of agency, so has the attorney general of the state.
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Now would you do that through common law? Would you bring a common lawsuit against them for a specific jurisdiction?
[01:04:49] Unknown:
Well, you know what? We're about to find out because Joe's in that position right now. You were on when he came on yesterday and told this story at the back end. Well, he's won that case. And now because that judge, that policeman, and no telling who all, acted outside of their when they're put on notice and they acted outside of their personal responsibility, and now guess what? The state of New Jersey agrees with them. So now when that gets wrapped up, their asses are hanging out. It's how does Joe wanna go about it? Does he want to take them into a limited court, like a, court of common pleas, small claims court, where you you can't have an attorney and the limits $10,000 or do we want to have another way and go after them and go after bigger dollars than that and bigger things of that that they, that they control and make an example of them. I want some scalps on our belt.
I want something to show some of these other yahoos around the country that they're thin treading on thin ice. So I don't know the answer. Well, I'll keep up with it as Joe goes forward.
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Okay. I was doing some some a little bit of research and and what and I I got, stumbled across Bill Thornton, common law procedure.
[01:06:11] Unknown:
Okay. Have you ever heard of him? I mean, I no.
[01:06:16] Unknown:
Okay. He's got a bunch of, YouTube videos. They're they're they're common law lectures on on common law procedure. His name is Bill Thornton. Okay. And I was doing a bunch of research on that, and he
[01:06:30] Unknown:
go ahead. That's sorry. Roger, that's the one we were talking about where, in the group, I always share that one.
[01:06:38] Unknown:
Okay. Well, I'm I well, let me put it this way. I I probably shouldn't have said I've never heard of him. I had, but I'd forgotten about it, and I've not viewed any of his work. But if he's really accurately delving in and teaching the common law, then hell, I'm all for him. You know, we got our own specialist around here, Brent Winters. And, he's the kind of the guy that I rely on. There's not very many people that know about the common law in the country, folks.
[01:07:03] Unknown:
He teaches people how to carry this up themselves privately as a private individual. Okay. And he teaches, sovereignty, how we how we're supposed to be under natural law and carry on that way. We do things administratively. He likes going into court, but he does teach people how to do court administratively.
[01:07:24] Unknown:
Well, I guess some people just you know, if you're a masochist, maybe you like that kind of stuff. It wasn't my cup of tea, I'll tell you. But, each to their own. So, no. I don't know about mister Thornton per se. You wanna study him? Evidently, he's doing the right thing. Was that Larry?
[01:07:45] Unknown:
Yeah. Remember we had, in the summer, we you dedicated an hour, and we were talking about well, mostly, Merca was talking about how if you follow what Bill Thornton is teaching, you could go in the court and use the common law, and you file what's known as a counterclaim under the common law because you haven't harmed anyone. And so the one thing that you're attempting to do is to challenge jurisdiction. And when you do a counterclaim, when you make that your main argument, they have to prove the jurisdiction first before that case can even go forward. Okay. And so we discussed that during the summer just to give you a reminder.
[01:08:28] Unknown:
Well, you know, Larry, I keep telling you here's a reminder. I'm old. And, some of that stuff just I don't remember. I remember our stuff real good, but it says some of the other stuff I might have a little difficulty with for whatever reason. But, yeah, that's cool. If you wanna do any of that, I'm not gonna tell you not to. Okay? Remember, these are all your these are all this is your freedom and it's your choices. Okay? CS. Alright. And there was a female there. We're gonna defer to the females every time. Oh, alright, Larry. Go ahead. Change up. Hold on. Well, I was just gonna say up email now. Can go over real
[01:09:06] Unknown:
maybe you could go over real quick with Jason to go along with the discussion. How that one sentence on one piece of paper to one guy removes us from the jurisdictional control of all of those 438 agencies. But also, we're not we're not under the US code. They don't they you know, because of the jurisdictional statement of resident. Well,
[01:09:28] Unknown:
some of it may be. If it's positive law, it's my understanding you are. But if it's non positive law and they tell you which sections are which there at the start, it doesn't. This is the Roman civil code of the common law and the merchant law melded together. So, I thought I went over that a minute ago, earlier in the show, Larry, the first part of what you were talking about of remind me again, would you? Or you had thought on several different topics. What was the first part of the question? Well Oh, the one sentence is one piece of paper. 1 yeah. One sentence is one piece of paper. Okay?
Jason, there's a we found this on the Secretary of State's website. It's at the bottom of a document called certificate of non hyphen citizen nationality. And there's a little paragraph above it, but you can disregard that. And because the essence is what we talked about earlier, what what we're all doing, no matter how you do it, is you're rebutting the presumption that you had previously fraudulently agreed with. The presumption that you were born in a position of voluntary servitude in a surety for a debt. And then they ask you the back half. They don't tell you. It ain't a contract that like you go into open eyed. They've done it for you. That's the fraud.
Then they ask you to agree with it. They ask the 2 questions. You sign it. Yeah. I agree to that. Yeah. I'm a a a former, you know, federal citizen under the scope and purview of all these 14th amendment stuff. And, yeah, I give you the consent to govern me in that capacity. That's in essence what those two questions are asking you. And they're gonna take you at your word. And if you tell them that, my god, that's how they're gonna govern you. So you're rebutting that presumption. A presumption of law is a presumption that's based upon another fact.
So the presumption here is that there was a bankruptcy, they you're in this condition, they put you into it as surety of the debt. That's the presumption. They take from that fraudulent bankruptcy and then they ask you, do you agree with this? And you go, yeah. So you're rebutting that. So it doesn't matter exactly what you say, it's that whatever you do say rebuts that presumption. Sure. Capiche?
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Sure.
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Okay. Now the female, who's our gal there a minute ago?
[01:12:09] Unknown:
Hey there, Roger. This is Nancy from Virginia. Can you hear me okay? Hey, Nancy. Yes, ma'am. I can. There's another Virginia,
[01:12:16] Unknown:
gal here, Jason.
[01:12:19] Unknown:
What and I hi, Jason.
[01:12:21] Unknown:
Hi. We'll have to get in contact.
[01:12:24] Unknown:
Oh, yeah. I I'd love to connect with you. I'm in Central Virginia, Richmond, Richmond area. Roger, I have 2 questions. Actually, one is related to what you were just discussing, for clarity. And so, actually, that's kinda covered, but it was about the regulatory state, what applies to nationals and what doesn't. And you're going over that positive law versus nonpositive law. So positive law
[01:12:52] Unknown:
nothing. There there's 2 sections of the IRS code that apply to nationals out of the entire administrative state to my knowledge, Nancy. Those are 871 b and 877 b in the Internal Revenue Code. And, by the way, they're both constitutional taxes. Yes. And I'm just talking about all the regular federal regulations, not just IRS. I am well, I am too. Those are the only 2 that apply to you out of all of them.
[01:13:22] Unknown:
Oh, okay. That's what I thought, and I didn't I just wasn't completely clear by what we were just discussing, if that was the case that you're It is meant it is meant to be confusing. And so the 871 b and 877 b would be examples of positive law?
[01:13:41] Unknown:
Well, they would be. Yeah. I guess you could say that.
[01:13:44] Unknown:
Okay. Okay. And so that was that was my first question. And the second one is about more on the state level. Okay. My driver's license is up for renewal soon, and so is a a dear friend of mine, another new she's gonna be doing her affidavit this this week.
[01:14:06] Unknown:
No. Good. Well, congratulations
[01:14:08] Unknown:
to her. Yeah. This is another friend besides Stephanie. She hasn't Stephanie hasn't done hers yet. But, anyway, I she has to renew her ID, driver's license, and, you know, they're pushing the real ID. So we've been talking about that. So I thought I would get your feedback on how to handle that.
[01:14:30] Unknown:
You know, I it doesn't override your affidavit. K? They can't force you to have something that's gonna override that affidavit. And, basically, you're you're forced to get this, because, otherwise, there's a chance you're gonna be dealing, as I've said so often, with a sub 100 IQ officer with a Glock on his hip on the side of the road, and you don't wanna do that. K? And having no license sets all that up. And I'm not gonna make the decision because I don't know which way is right or wrong, Nancy. I think think your peace of mind, it probably plays largely into this.
And it seems to me that it's better to not make any waves. Now, Nancy, you're a very sweet lady, and and and and and I don't know if I picture you as getting in there and getting in front of the judge and going through all that. I would suggest you just get the license and go on about your life. It doesn't impede what you've already done. And and and, otherwise, if you don't get it, you may be really begging for problems. And I don't want any of you to have those problems. And, again, this is the traffic problem is you can't have an overall answer that fits all because they're all local jurisdictions, and they don't all look at this the same.
[01:15:53] Unknown:
That's the problem right there. Yeah. I I that's not the battle that I want to fight. So I I'm on board with you completely about that. So Yes. But my question is patriot yes. Nancy, an old patriot told me one time, he said,
[01:16:07] Unknown:
only fight the battles you know you can win.
[01:16:12] Unknown:
Right. And, I I'll share something about a friend of mine that I've commented on previously, who's been choosing that battle. But with regard to the renewal of my my driver's license, what I was thinking about doing is, at that time, submit, and I could probably do it ahead of time, is notice them with my affidavit. Uh-huh. But I think I'll what I'll do is attach create a cover letter that attaches my affidavit, possibly my birth certificate, a copy of certified copy of my passport ID and card. But and I'll work that out. But, because I I'm also gonna look at what the state since the residency or resident, we've heard that in some states in their statutes that acknowledges that it's a rebuttal presumption.
[01:17:11] Unknown:
That that's in Georgia. Rebuttal presumption. Right. Right. And you need you need to get that phone? Okay. No. It's not mine. Well, let let me just let me stop on a teaching point here. Mhmm. All of these laws are called uniform. Yes. And that's what they can control from the top down. When uniform means it's the same in every state. So if it's in Georgia, it ought to be in Virginia too because you're talking about the uniform traffic code. Right. Okay. I don't know that it's there. I've never looked in Virginia specifically, but under that concept, it should be there. And we know that the term resident is a rebuttal presumption anyway.
[01:17:57] Unknown:
Correct. And I'll just add that to part of my research, because with the voter registration issue, I finally realized that based on the application, I was just affirming that I was a USA citizen, and so I could legally and lawfully correctly say yes. So Yeah. So I'm that's what I'm preparing to look at for myself and also for my friend, Beth, who is saying that she wants to do her affidavit this week. And she'll be renewing her driver's license early February. So it's topical for us. And Yes. Very. Yeah.
[01:18:36] Unknown:
It's a good idea maybe to send them a copy of the affidavit and say, I'm gonna go ahead and sign this as a resident, but I I do this in protest, and I'm only doing it because of the potential of a backlash, of whatever, through the courts, through the other guy on the side of the road, whatever. But along those lines, that might not be a bad idea at all. K? Then you're just covered.
[01:19:01] Unknown:
Right. In the cover letter, I was thinking about I would be referencing the law of necessity
[01:19:07] Unknown:
in order to keep the peace. Yeah. I think it's great. Blah blah. Those two things particularly. Yep.
[01:19:14] Unknown:
Okay.
[01:19:15] Unknown:
Well, great. I'll I'll share that. See how educated some of our students have? I mean, Nancy Nancy's here because her sister has been listening to me for about 10 years, back from the old truth frequency radio days. And, Suzanne told Nancy about it, and Nancy's here. Look how look how learned up she is.
[01:19:38] Unknown:
Well, I listen to you most every day too. So, you know, it it finds a it finds a home here. It Now, you see,
[01:19:47] Unknown:
what this information does, I've come to understand, is it sharpens your thinking. Because you see the way they get us is they set us up with generalities with these words, with a number of different definitions, and then they pick 1 and they zap us with it. So they set you up with generalities and they zap you with specificity. So as you gotta learn this and start figuring it out and and and and setting up your life to deal with it like Nancy's talking about, now your thinking's gotta be really sharp. So knowing this sharpens your thinking. That's what's going on, I believe. Oh, absolutely. It makes Absolutely. It makes you think an extra step or 2 that before you weren't doing because you didn't realize the importance of the specificity.
[01:20:35] Unknown:
And the contribution, not only, of course, that you have laid here, but that every many people have contribute because I think Samuel has brought in about the law of necessity, and in order to keep the peace. But oh, and you're speaking of, Suzanne and Dean. I I was wondering. Well, he recently received a a bluff letter in response to his noticing the IRS. Yeah. Good. And so we were able to determine that, and it was an educational opportunity. Right?
[01:21:11] Unknown:
Yeah. Well, it's a chance for y'all all collectively to lose what you've learned come to learn and understand in that particular situation. Yeah. Fantastic. You got a little brain trust.
[01:21:23] Unknown:
Well yeah. Because he's been through some IRS stuff before.
[01:21:27] Unknown:
Oh.
[01:21:28] Unknown:
But but so I as I was well, and, I was in the collaboration together to look at this with with Susanna saying, okay. So reviewing it, it didn't really it referenced it didn't reference specifically his affidavit, but it referenced his noticing. It I mean, just by date of the submission. Right? So, but that's very helpful because we walked through it. It doesn't anything that every and nothing in the letter addressed what his affidavit said, but it talked about, it was obviously the whole thing was, an intimidation and bluff. And so, that was very useful because, you know, if getting a a notice from the IRS, of course, if you've not done this if you if you've done it before if you've done something or had something from them before, it create it brings up that fear. And I said, well, you know, you should be afraid because they've been terrorizing us for over a 100 years. But that just means you need to pay attention and learn.
Yep. And, be you know, evaluate what is being presented. And there was nothing about, anything specific. So it's very clear that it was a bluff letter. Yeah. But, go ahead.
[01:22:49] Unknown:
I was just gonna say sometimes I think maybe they just see something and they just like, you were reviewing your account. It takes about 640 days, and you never hear from them again. So I'm not sure if it's a bluff letter because I don't know what was in it, of course, or if it's just some knee jerk reaction from some internal IRS employee. We just don't know. But what we do know is they got no more power over you, and they'll never come prosecute you because they don't want any spotlight being shown potentially or actually on this topic.
They don't want that.
[01:23:26] Unknown:
Right. And we all felt it was appropriate to acknowledge in writing that they received acknowledging their receipt of citizenship affidavit. But Yeah. So we they do that.
[01:23:42] Unknown:
It gives you another chance to submit the affidavit to them, doesn't it? And you know they've got to put it in your administrative file because that's part of their whole job, and it's an administrative court, and that's the court of record. It's that administrative file of what they sent you and how you responded. So it's just another way to get your no. You know your affidavits in there then.
[01:24:06] Unknown:
Yes. And that's how we approached it. And we also let Mark take a look at that. Okay. Good deal. So so that's that was and the local thing for me with my friend who is pushing the travel thing Yeah. So she had spent some time in jail because she didn't well, I won't go into those details. But I was sitting down with her. You got unsavory
[01:24:31] Unknown:
friends.
[01:24:33] Unknown:
Well, she's not, but she's stubborn and stiff necked. Stubborn and stiff necked like I am. I I well, listen. I particularly
[01:24:42] Unknown:
applaud a female that steps out on that. Usually, gals don't. You're you're you're security oriented, and you're nesters, and all that kind of stuff, and that's just a territory you generally don't go into. So congratulations. Well She's got Yeah. As Lisa would say as Lisa would say, she's got big breasticles.
[01:25:04] Unknown:
Well and, you know, the saying that fools rush in where angels fear to tread because Alright. Right. Woman and bullshit. But, so she recently also was traveling, but she has expired plates and she doesn't have a driver's license. And she tried to she didn't go to jail this time, but, she's I don't think she's corrected her status, but she tried to present a common law ID to the and she was surrounded by cop cars or bad Oh my god. Blocked in. I don't know the rest of that story. Actually, I just get very angry with the locks.
[01:25:38] Unknown:
Nancy, was she blocked in or was she glocked in or both?
[01:25:43] Unknown:
It could've been both. It could've been both. Yeah. But I she obviously That sounds right. Encounter because that happened maybe, I don't know what over the last month or 2. And so that anyway, so that's an instance where she's I think it's all based I mean, her actions are based on information that Yeah. Is not accurate, which led to her being arrested previously. Yeah. Well So You don't it causes me it causes me I get very angry with her, actually. It's probably not helpful. But,
[01:26:29] Unknown:
she's Well, there's a better way to do it. You know, the way she's doing it is like beating your head against the wall because it feels so good when you stop. Because she's never gonna get anywhere. And the reason she's never gonna get anywhere, Jason, we came from copper moonshine still. I don't know too much about them over there. That's why I asked people, but I do know he used to have some wonderful sites on that website I've never seen before. And one of them was this I think it was an appellate level, and it said unless the person can prove they're not a citizen of the United States, the IRS can go on to assessment collection, whatever. But the active part of that is proving you're not a citizen of the United States, and there's only one way to do that, and that's to submit something to the secretary of state, period. If you haven't done that, your ass is hanging out.
[01:27:24] Unknown:
Roger. Absolutely. Absolutely. So and I I'd also less time. I'm the 2 my 2 questions. But with regard to my friend who is pushing that envelope, you know, with regard I know we're I'm not gonna go into the travel drive versus thing. But, I think there probably are common law remedies. But if you don't have the foundation of your national status, I think that's the starting point personally. And to remove yourself from that jurisdiction, then they'll learn jurisdiction, then they'll learn about the common law and and procedure if you're so led to to do that. I think that's that's
[01:27:59] Unknown:
valuable
[01:28:03] Unknown:
too. But I think the the starting point is is you're correcting your status. Because you're still
[01:28:04] Unknown:
gonna is is you're correcting your status because you're still gonna have to defend it. Okay. We've learned that from Joe and other people.
[01:28:14] Unknown:
It from John and Glenn. I mean, they spent 15 years in federal prison because they didn't know that. Otherwise, they were totally 100% right. That's the only thing they didn't have, and that's what I brought to the table. Of course. And I'm proud of it, by the way. Okay. Yeah. What else, Nancy? I'm done. Okay. Thank you, sweetie. Good to talk to you. And there was the other gal that was, there was a gal trying to get in here, I think. Jason It was me right before. Thora. Hey, Thora.
[01:28:44] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. Hey, Nancy. I have, information about the, passport I mean, not the passport, the driver's license renewal because I did mine a couple years ago when, before I submitted my affidavit, before I even knew about this information, I did a renewal. You don't have to get a Real ID. That's completely optional because your passport can stand in place of that. And, also, there was when I renewed my license, it asked if you're a resident, but it also, in parenthesis said that that's optional. So I just didn't I I did not check yes. And I think I I thought might be that that's because they want to, illegals to be able to get licenses.
That's just my thought. But, anyway, I never checked, yes, because I thought if, you know, the less they know about me, the better. So, but, anyway, I'd be curious to know if that is still on the, renewal form
[01:29:56] Unknown:
when you do it. You need to go. You need to do a little inspector Clouseau stuff here.
[01:30:02] Unknown:
Right. Yeah. So That's that's good.
[01:30:08] Unknown:
Yeah. Well, great. I will And let us know. Let us know if that's there. See, here's what's happening. That thing with, Brian Howard where we got that information back from the head guy in Idaho that they can't issue a license, state issued license to anyone who's not a resident. That was easily 10 years ago. Okay? Now we've had this influx of migrants. They're letting people get driver's license off of bogus Social Security numbers. There's no telling what these Democrats have set up. So some of that may have changed. Okay? But Exactly.
We don't know. So but that could be what's going on here. But, Nancy, you and your friends go through that and with a fine tooth comb, if you would, and maybe let us know what you, find out there, if you would, so we can be a little more accurate. But there's a chance that could have changed in some states, and they would have changed the requirement in those 10 years. And, god, you know, there these tens of millions of migrants that are in here illegally. Hopefully, next Tuesday, that the the the this thing starts to reverse it.
[01:31:18] Unknown:
Well, my my friend, Beth, who's con considering you know, she's wants to do her her affidavit this week, and needs to renew her her ID her driver's license No. Said that we were looking at the handout on the Real ID, and we know she noticed she did a little bit of research and noticed that that was 2019 or 2020, and it seems to be outdated. So I'll I'll report back when I have more information.
[01:31:44] Unknown:
Okay. And, yeah, share that. Roger. Alright. Hello, Roger. And, unless alright. Y'all okay. Both of you. Hold on. Let's see if if Thora has anything else to add, Thora. We don't hear from her too much, and I like to hear her voice. And and so if you got anything else to add, Thor, now do it.
[01:32:02] Unknown:
No. That was it. Thank you.
[01:32:05] Unknown:
Okay. Thank you. Good to hear you, sweetie. And That's something for Ken. Okay. Go ahead, Mark. Nancy and, Thor, I just want to know about the vehicle code. Talk right in right in the microphone. You're you're blurred. Start again.
[01:32:22] Unknown:
I found the vehicle code for California. And on the vehicle code, it says, for, words and phrases, this is 260. And letter a says a commercial vehicle is a motor vehicle of a type required to be registered under this code used or maintained for transportations of persons for hire, compensation, or profit or just or designed, used, or maintained primarily for transportation of property. Then there's the letter b, which is why I'm not registering my my auto is passenger vehicles and house cars that are not used for transportation of persons for hire compensation or profit are not commercial vehicles.
[01:33:13] Unknown:
That's nice. That's very explicit right there in the code. Yep.
[01:33:18] Unknown:
I that's I added that to a notice to the DMV, and I told them I'm not gonna be using their I'm not gonna be participating with the registration or using my license, and I do not consent for them or authorize them to use my license or,
[01:33:38] Unknown:
you know, anything with the registration. Okay. I just need to job of finding that, interpreting it, reacting to it. Good work. K?
[01:33:47] Unknown:
Now there's 2 or 3 options. Commerce. I drive in commerce, so I would would do that. I would I would need to Thora? But
[01:33:55] Unknown:
Thora drive Nancy, you drive in commerce?
[01:33:59] Unknown:
Yeah. I'm a rideshare driver since I got fired from my state department. Funny. I was
[01:34:04] Unknown:
I was gonna bring that up and and say Uber people and and folks like that would be acting in commerce. Yeah. Well, then you legitimately need well, then you legitimately need that license, Nancy. Okay, Samuel. I'm gonna try and get to y'all. Everybody wants to talk. I beg people to talk. Can't get anybody to open up. Today, we're overwhelmed. Samuel.
[01:34:27] Unknown:
Yeah. Nancy, I, I lived in Virginia for 2 years in the in the late seventies, and when I went to Richmond, I was completely impressed by all of Richmond, I was completely impressed by all of the beautiful Confederate statuary and stuff that was there. Is is that truly all been ripped out?
[01:34:46] Unknown:
It has. Except for the one to the the black tennis player.
[01:34:53] Unknown:
Of course. Or to, the the the Confederate general that was the turncoat, Pike up there in DC or Judah p Benjamin's damn statute down there in New Orleans and all those, they still stand. Well, hopefully, maybe Trump will put some of those things back up, I hope. We'll see. Okay. You got plenty you got plenty on his plate, folks. Okay. Samuel, there was another person trying to get in there too if you wanna come forward, please.
[01:35:24] Unknown:
Yeah. It's Chris from California.
[01:35:26] Unknown:
Okay. Cliff? Yeah. Hi, Cliff. Chris. Chris. What are you? Chris. Oh, okay. Chris. Hey, man. Well, your phone's a little always a little bit distance probably where you live or whatever, but good to see you. How you doing? How can we help you?
[01:35:44] Unknown:
Just fine. 2 things. So I'm about ready to send in the affidavit. Should it be affidavit of national or affidavit of citizenship?
[01:35:53] Unknown:
National, the affidavit of citizenship evidence, Just like it's the sample. And the reason Let me tell you the reason. I wanna tell people the reason. We do We don't pull things out of our sphincter muscle here. We do all these things because there's a reason for it. And the reason is because that's how they identify the in affidavits internally at the state department.
[01:36:19] Unknown:
Right.
[01:36:22] Unknown:
Okay. And we wanna make sure we're on the same definition page as they are.
[01:36:29] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. I've, I've been I've been familiar with Bill Thornton for a long time. And in fact, I videotaped a lot of his presentations. However, I'm not gonna say any more about that. He's become a Mason, so I'm a little, I'm a little puzzled by, you know, so anyway,
[01:36:52] Unknown:
I just, like if I went and converted to be a Jew.
[01:36:57] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. Like, Trump
[01:37:00] Unknown:
did. Well, okay. Did you know Trump did? He still he still well, he still put well, I've heard that, but he still gets up and and talks about his savior. So Jesus Christ. So Yeah. I'm I'm dubious on that. Worry about that. That's that's not my that's not my problem. However,
[01:37:17] Unknown:
yesterday, I was on a Zoom meeting with Bernie, who teaches about, corporations, souls, and, ecclesiastical law and religious trust. Now, according to him, he says that the common law has been incorporated in the civil law in all 50 states of the union.
[01:37:41] Unknown:
Well, that's true. And that's what I'm talking about. And they do it. The it becomes what the United States code is, which is the Roman civil code. And that is a combination, a melding, if you will, of the Babylonian merchant code and the common law. Have you have you heard the, the way they did it in Rome? I talk about it on here occasionally. It's quite instructive because that's what the United States code is. And have you heard that story, Chris?
[01:38:11] Unknown:
No. I haven't.
[01:38:12] Unknown:
Alright. Well, it's good. Jason's on here. He probably hadn't either, although he did read my book. I think he said he did. Anyway, the first 200 years of Rome, they were under a group of laws that was run by the, I think, the 12 tablets. And you can go back and see historical references to them, but we don't have any of the tablets. Okay? And so for the 1st 200 years of Rome, that was in essence a common law. They had a very formal, if there's a dispute, they had a very formal setting and they would have to have like a jury and they would come out with a judgment and all that before the person could go execute their remedy. Right? And so then Rome started conquering, adjacent territories and growing. And as they did that, the people, the merchants from the new conquered territories wanted to go to Rome because that's where the action was. And so now, you have these merchants coming from all these foreign lands, and they all use the Babylonian merchant code.
So they come to Rome and they're doing business, and the Romans see that when there's a dispute, they don't have to go to court and and get a on the docket and go to a trial and get a judgment. All they do is they've got this technique where they settle up right there on the spot. And so the remedy is written into the contract. And so the Roman citizens, noticed that and they wanted this easy way of remedy. Well, the attorney general in essence of Rome was called the praetor. And they Rome was very smart. They knew how much power that position could amass and so they would change the praetor every year.
And as an incoming praetor would come in, why he just mostly do what all the previous ones had done. They may make minor changes. And so, over a period of 200 years of changing praetors and the pressure applied from the Roman citizens that they wanted their business treated like the foreign merchants, they infused because of these self help remedies. That's what I'm saying. They're very important to understand. Because of these self help remedies, they infused them into the Babylonian, into the Roman, common law that was called the Juss Civil, j u s c I v I l e, the the law of the civilian or citizen.
And over that 200 years on the other side, what came out was called the just, the law of the gens I u m, I believe, which is the law of the foreigner. So it was a melding. Once they got the self help remedies in there, well, the rest of the Babylonian code followed. So it's a melding of these two systems of law. Because under the the color of law, that a Roman citizen was a foreign merchant, the laws of Rome changed. But that's the impetus and that's what happened. Now our United States code is that same thing. We were on the air one day, and I said, somebody look up when the code started. When did the code start? In the twenties, right before they were gonna pull the bankruptcy. So this is intricately planned, but that's the historical example. Now there's another example, Chris, that's topical Mhmm. Right now because we're in tax season.
And the same thing happened to the English in 12/85, and they infused a document called an English well, they called it a statute staple bond or contract. The we the the the the name of it is a Jewish shetar, s h e t a r. And we call that a 10 40 form. It's a specialty contract in the UCC. And it's gotta have 2 things to be this type of contract. It's gotta have what's called a recognizance, and then it's got to be signed under seal. Those are the specifics to make it a Jewish shetar. Well, what's a recognizance? Well, it's a word comes from recognize.
So in the contract that you sign, there is a recognition of another body of law outside of that contract. In the case of a 10 40 form, there's a recognizance that you'll abide by all the rules and conditions under the Internal Revenue Code, recognizing another body of law. And at the bottom, it's gotta be signed under seal, and that means under penalty of perjury. If you you could write the IRS and tell them you owe, but pardon me?
[01:43:27] Unknown:
Yeah. I never signed one of those.
[01:43:29] Unknown:
Right. Well, I remember you saying that the other day. Well, that's why you're not in their records. That's why they're not on you, and you've never had any trouble with them. You've always had some way in your private dealings just not get somebody to report something. So congratulations. That's an obstacle you really don't have to cross. However, as you're telling your friends out there, and I don't know how many of them are in the same situation, Chris, but if some of them have still been filing, you need to understand that once you change status, you can at least go back and apply to the IRS and get the last 3 years you've paid in back.
Okay? Yeah. I've heard of that. Mhmm. Yep. And we call it revocation of election. We've had some very recent examples of that happening where people got, well, you know, tens of 1,000 of dollars back, and one guy that got just high, well, a medium 6 figure back. Okay? So, anyway, that's the advantage of that. That's what the Roman civil law is. That's what the United States code is and that's where it came from and how it happened.
[01:44:37] Unknown:
Right. Thank you.
[01:44:40] Unknown:
Hey. You're welcome, man. Okay. Who else? Anybody got questions on that or any other stuff we wanna discuss? Good show. We've had real good shows this week. I'm very pleased. May I, Lady Linda Louise? May I? Of course you of course you can, you sweet thing. What do you got?
[01:44:57] Unknown:
Well, I just because we have some new people like Julie, Chris, and Jason, the it's the doctrine of necessity, not the law. Doctrine of man made rules. That's what the word means. So it's the doctrine of necessity. So I just thought I would, clarify that, and I yield.
[01:45:17] Unknown:
Aren't you sweet? Thank you. Very instructive. Roger. Anybody else? Yes. There's Larry. He wants to come back in again. Hey there.
[01:45:24] Unknown:
Yeah. Hey. Getting back to what we were discussing before. So what I was trying to, ask was, is it because you've told this story many times. Is it in the United States code or the code of federal regulations where they have their jurisdictional, statement about you know, this is for residents in the opening paragraphs.
[01:45:47] Unknown:
Which which body of law is that in? Well, it would be the here here's the deal with the 26 is unique because it's the tax code and those two sections of the tax code are in there and they're constitutional. So they have to cover both bases, don't they? Okay? So, that's why you've got both statuses lined out there in the jurisdictional statement. An income tax is owed by all, remember they say individuals here. They don't say persons. An income tax is owed by all individuals because it's a you it's a personal income tax. It's not the corporate income tax. So they don't use the word person. That's why that's like that. Okay? An income tax is owed by all individuals, personal income tax, who are citizens of the United States or residents.
And to the extent of 871b and 877b, all nonresident alien individuals. Now, because those constitutional taxes are in there, and because I think they wanna give them damn selves a way out, the high high up people, no doubt, know about this. They had to put that in there. But the all the rest of the 49 titles of the code of federal regulations, their jurisdictional statement is just residence. And it may not even say that directly, but it infers it when you understand what they're trying to do here is they're throwing the big net over everybody.
It's not just federal citizens in DC. It's everybody. Okay? And that's why that's the way it is. Because now even people that aren't citizens but are legal residents, now they're obligated to pay the taxes or do whatever the administrative agencies want them to do, as they should, because they're foreigners. They voluntarily came to the United States, met the requirements to be in our country and work or whatever, And they should obey those laws, shouldn't they? Of course, they should. Okay? So that's the reason. Now, I was gonna mention to Joe yesterday because this is just something I've been noodling on lately and I'm I'm really shocked I've missed this all these years.
But that's why, especially for you new folks, and I tell you that this is a process and not an event. The event was when you cross paths with the information. The rest of the time you're gonna be dealing with it, it's a process. Okay? And this latest revelation to me is the significance and the importance of the 13th amendment. We've always pretty well dwelled on the 14th amendment. This 13th amendment is incredibly important because it had to be written for state citizens. There won the federal citizenship for 6 more months.
All of the 13th amendment is exclusively and strictly for state citizens nationals. And they set it up like that because they wanna throw the big net out of the little district of Columbia over all the states and trick all of you folks into being their damn serfs. That's why. That is written exclusively for nationals. Their jurisdiction at the bottom. Man, I mean, I've never heard anybody bring that argument up before or that approach. Yes, Larry.
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Yeah. Also, you know how you're always saying that a national or nonresident alien is not required to pay federal income tax
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unless Well, a national is a non a national is the nonresident alien. They just changed the label. Just like at the start of the court case, you can define whatever definition you want. And if it goes to the Supreme Court, the entire case has to be under those definitions. That's what they're doing here. We can do anything we want in this code. And we're gonna call you a nonresident alien because we know you'll never figure it out even if you ever did find it.
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But but a national or nonresident alien is responsible for 871b and 877b, But I'd also like to I I think you should also add whenever you say that to new students that they all are also required. If you're a national slash nonresident alien, if you work for the federal government or if you are a contractor and you get your Yes. You owe it. Your paycheck from the federal government, you do have to pay federal income tax. But not a subcontractor.
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Contractor maybe, not a subcontractor. Because because we got some of our people that are providing very important functions that are subcontractors.
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I'm looking for it, but I can't find it.
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Okay. Oh, he's he's working. Okay. So, yeah. Larry's right. And where was the first income tax? Some of you will know, some of the new people won't. Who did the first income tax? It's called a capitation tax, by the way, because it's on your body. So who did the first tax? Well, Lincoln. He did the first tax when he issued the greenbacks. And then that's that's where they screwed up with the greenbacks, is that you've got to tax out of circulation what you spend into circulation with no access for speculation. If you do that, that system will work. Okay? Because all the money is is just a medium exchange, goods and services.
But because Lincoln passed the 1st income tax on the greenbacks, The only people that were required to pay the tax were federal employees.
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K?
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Roger, do I think someone has to mute a little bit? Yeah. No. Well, I thought you were having a private conversation on the side.
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A business thing. Right. Let me show me what I Whoever
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No. That's not me, Hunter. Someone else. Paul, could you find out who that is? Because they're talk obviously having another conversation. If you could put your beep maybe Chris. If you could hit your mute, we'd appreciate it. Now we're gonna get into we're gonna do a whole IRS, an IRS show here as we get into the tax season, and it's fascinating, information. And John and Glenn were, except for our enemies, the only ones in the world that knew that. K?
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So, Roger, is there any way to get Glenn off the show? Because I have a lot of questions for him about the taxes.
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You know, he does he's off in another direction. He doesn't really like to do that, and boy, you don't like talking about taxes. So I'm gonna say no in that respect. If I told him, Larry wants to ask you a bunch of tax questions, he he wouldn't do it. That's one thing when I've had him on. He goes, I don't wanna talk about taxes. So sorry, Larry. You know, you're stuck with me. But it could help so many people out that if we can just I'm telling you the way the situation is, man.
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He would say, I think my sacroiliac is back. I need to go lay down.
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Yeah. Glenn has Glenn has really laid down his life for this stuff. He got burned when they when he as he said, it's so effing complex that not only can the jury not understand it, the judge can't understand it. Here's you're out of it. What what questions do you need to know?
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Well, one of the questions is, I'd like to know where in the code I asked Mark in all caps this question a couple of months ago, and he wasn't really sure. Where in the code does it say you can go back 3 years to, you know, collect federal income taxes? There's several different regulations. I'm not sure. That would be one of them anyway. They are. Okay. Well,
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you may just have to rely on the fact that they send it back to you because I don't know, and I I try and respect all of Glenn's wishes, Larry. K? And, I I it works. Why don't you go back to Wise Paris and look over there? They probably got them listed there somewhere. All he did was steal that from John Glenn.
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Well, you know, it what's so unfair about the whole thing is we can only go back 3 years when we become a nonresident alien slash national, but the IRS is able to go back, you know, 10 10 or 15 years to determine a tax liability. And that's exactly what No. Rights is up against up there in Alaska, with that court case. They they went back 10 10 or more years.
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I it was my impression they couldn't go back more than 7. Now there may be something involved that I don't know about, but,
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May I?
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But, that that that's what I know, Lydia. Yes. I I I hated the tax issue. That's why I came over here to jurisdiction. We never even brought up revocation of election for over 10 years. One day, it got brought up on the air. Yes. You may if you'll just wait a second. One day, it got brought up on the air. Very sharp listener, John, went and did all the research, all that stuff. Never asked a question. Never told me he's doing it, and he got back a substantial sum of money. K? And that's when we started looking at it again and realizing that I had the key to what John and Glenn didn't. They had everything else, but now I've got the key to the thing working.
And, that's where we are. Yes, Paul?
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I'm No. It's me. I was I was me too. May I was Sherry, but I'm next. So go ahead, Sherry. Okay.
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There's 2 things, fraud, which is not avoidance of taxes, but what's the other term? It escapes me right now?
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Well, of avoidance and
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evasion.
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Of a evasion.
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Evasion. Yes. Tax evasion. Ava Which is fraud. And then
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Yeah. Well, avoidance is against the law. Evasion is your duty. Now go.
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Correct. And the second item, is the tolling of the statutes. The the, it stops and starts if they choose for it to do for it to happen, in the collection process. Mhmm. So Well, you don't see them coming after me.
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They're not coming after me.
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Right. But those are the 2 things that govern, them going back,
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a substantial period of time. I yield. Okay. Well, normally, they can only go back 7 years. Isn't that right? Unless there's extraordinary circumstances.
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Yeah. Okay. Me too.
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Hey, Roger? No. It's me too. No. Go. Hold on. We're gonna get Paul in here come hell or high water. Okay?
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Yes. Exactly. Okay. I forgot what I was originally gonna say, but, I need to correct something that, Sherry said. Sorry, Sherry. Sorry. Sorry. Love you bunches. Tax evasion is against the law. It's evading a tax that you are obligated to pay. That's right. But void dense is your duty.
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Now do you know the difference between the 2, Paul?
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About 10 to 20?
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A cell wall.
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Right. 10 to 20.
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And, s, s I got a couple of nice tax things here I've learned over the years. Evasion, that's judge learned at hand. Evasion is against the law. Avoidance is your duty. I like the one my friend Ron Brown when he was fighting the IRS research stuff. Some Supreme Court justice on the tax case a 100 years ago said, the art of taxation is like the art of plucking a goose. The object is to get the most amount of feathers with the least amount of hiss.
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Mhmm.
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There you go. Now who was chomping at the bit to say something there? Oh. Joe? Joe? Hey, bud. How you doing?
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Hey. Good. Good. So just on that tax question, you know, someone's asking about that law. It's in 26 US code, 6501. It's limitations on assessment and collection. And it talks about, their statute of limitation in there. It's for filed returns though is 3 years. So if you don't file returns, they can't assess anything
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essentially. That's right. That's what they're telling. Well, they can if they go back and do a substitute for return, which is where the big boogaboo is in that whole whole system called a dummy return. That's where they do that for you. That's the fraud right there.
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Hey, Roger. You know what I did? And someone had that issue come up, and they asked me what can I do about it, and I I wrote to the IRS? I said I said, is this Social Security number property in Social Security Administration pursuant to 20 CFR 422.103? And, they never responded and that whole thing disappeared.
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Wow.
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Joe, you're a you're a real, jewel. We really, I I if I was Kaye was in the room, I'd go give her a big smack or an hugger.
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Can you repeat that code section?
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Yeah. 6501.
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Yeah. 26 US code 6501. That's for, that's for the statute of limitation with the IRS on, that stuff.
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And then the other code, the 4 0 22. It was it was 20
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CFR 422.103 because in there, it says that Social Security number cards are property of the Social Security Administration. So it says that's if that number is property of Social Security Administration, then that would make them liable for that number. Wouldn't it?
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Yeah. Then they can pay the tax.
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Yeah. Yeah. I'm gonna give it back to them.
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Well, just fun and games when you go through the the mass of the maze of the web they've woven. Boy, is it a mess. I'm just happy to be out of it. I don't wanna deal with them. I don't want anything to do with them the rest of my life, and I don't care about all that anymore. So you do Okay. Yeah. Go yes or go? Do they have an Ecuador? What kind of Well, I I don't pay well, we've got a VAT tax here, And then they've also got their own IRS. It's called SRI, ironically enough. If people make so much money and whatnot, but I would think very few people are obligated to. Otherwise, we got a 12%, I believe, VAT tax, which I'm glad to pay to live here. Now because I'm Hubel Auto, retired, if I was a legal resident, I could get a percentage of that back every month.
But I I let them have the money. I don't care. Okay? So that's I don't deal with any taxes except that, and I pay those gladly to live here. I don't have any problem with it. So, anyway, we're out of time here. We're about to lay our bodies down according to Crosby, Stills, and Nash. And, and I'm about to get mine up and go to lunch with the the gringos, because it's Tuesday. And, because we're on Eastern Standard Time, I I got a very short window to do that. So unless there's anything pressing for me, I will bid you ado and hopefully see you tomorrow.
Anybody have anything for me specifically?
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I did on that, p o I.
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Oh, there's a female here somewhere. Yes, ma'am?
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I just wanna say thank you, Roger, for Saturday when you clarify title 42 white citizen, title a territorial citizen, title 26 nonresident alien in nationality act of 1940 national, and they all mean the same.
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That was lovely. Thank you for that clarity. Well, then you gotta understand their MO. If you don't understand how they do things, you're gonna go chasing all those. Hey, it's a different thing. I gotta go chase that. And you're gonna be chasing your tail and wasting your time, and I don't want you to do that. I want you to hone in on what's important and concentrate on it and make it a part of you. Okay? Now who else is saying something there? A male?
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George Idaho.
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Hey, George. Quick.
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Hey, Roger. Yeah. The, BOI has recently come,
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come into,
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on Mark's radar beneficial ownership information and, kinda fits in with what you're saying, all these agencies. But, if you look at what they're asking, a reporting company so this is probably how they're gonna try to cancel little guys. They have full legal name, any trade name, complete US address, state, tribal, or foreign jurisdiction of formation. And they've got for each beneficial owner and company applicant, full legal name, date of birth, complete current address, unique identifying number, and issuing, jurisdiction form from one of the following, US passport, state driver's license, identification document, blah blah blah. And, this is that Finsen identifier. It's called small FTC compliance guide. And I was curious, you know, as a national, let's say you form an LLC, maybe this is a mark question, but, do you I mean, they're threatening the same thing they did with taking in the gold, $10,000 or 1 year in prison or whatever, 10 years in prison, if you don't do these things. And, so I'm kinda curious as how, as a national, you operate around these. As a small as a small entity,
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well, I would look over all of those if you gotta fill out something and find out where they're hiding it. Because they're hiding it in there somewhere. It's gotta be in there. If that's a public information gathering request, it's gonna have to have an o m b number too. And it sounds like it might be. That's another angle to look at. And just there it's hidden somewhere in those options they give you. It's gotta be there.
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I see. Because, yeah, this thing actually lost on a lost on appeal, I guess, and, whether it's constitutional or not. And then Florida and some other states are challenging the constitutionality of it as well.
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Good deal. It ought to be. So I don't know. I hadn't come confronted with that beneficial ownership. I remember us talking about it. I don't remember about it too much specifically. Mark Mark's been hadn't been here for a few days. Hopefully, he'll show up again quickly.
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May I? Okay. So,
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yes, ma'am.
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Hi. It's Julie.
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Hey, Julie.
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Hi, guys. Yeah. So I have a lot of familiarity with that corporate transparency act, and, my understanding is it's still unconstitutional, and you don't need to do that. I'm very irritated about it as well. Yep. It you don't have to do the corporate it's been appealed a 1000000 times, and it's still being appealed. And, these courts are just so corrupt. The the huge organization that, put a lawsuit, against this as unconstitutional and won in court, the, courts came the Treasury and the courts came back and said, oh, but that appeal is only applicable to that organization. Everybody else has to comply. And it's all about, quote, unquote, tracking money launderers and putting an end to money laundering. But, yeah, there's 19 exceptions to that law. And the very first exception to that law is banks or banks. Who are my most common bank's money? Of course. Them. So
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all the all the all of The drug people couldn't operate without that. Julie, I appreciate what you're doing. I'm going to lunch. I'll see you all tomorrow. Okay?
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Okay.
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Alright. It's a drug Tell the rest of the folks tell the rest of the folks if you want to, but, I'm I'm not you know? Tell them. Because I don't know much. I can't add anything. Do what, Paul?
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It's not only unconstitutional.
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It's none of their dang business, and it's downright un American. Well, it's like glass. It's like licensing you, and and and a license is permission to do something that's illegal. If you're a national, then your business ain't illegal. Right? Right. So anyway, thank you, sweetie. And, everybody else, and I'll see you tomorrow. And, you know, Tuesday's a special day for me. So we got a pretty day. We're getting finally people back in from extended holidays and crap. So we ought to have a good crowd today, and I'm anxious to go mingle with them.
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Bon appetit. Mingle. I will.
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Bye. Hey. There you go. Bori hit it. Bumparevecho.
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Down here I understand when I'm coming.
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Walk past pop west walk past your table. All the Bumparevecho. Bumparevecho. I hear it all the time. So thank you. Bory said it. Yes, Paul? Hey.
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That's it. You have a great lunch.
[02:08:08] Unknown:
Thank you. I'll see you all tomorrow. Ciao.
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Okay. The dinner bell has rung, and that is it for the radio rings with Roger Sales on Eurofolksradio.comandradio.globalvoiceradio.net.actually, live.globalvoiceradio.net. You can, find out more about the topics discussed by going to the matrix docs.com, the matrix, d o c s.com. You can also click on one of the free conference call links. You can join us live on the show. Get it room for a 1,000 seats, and we get 3,000 more seats waiting in the wings, waiting waiting to roll out for when the masses come. I'm Paul from Global Voice Network. Thank you so much for joining us. We'll catch you straight back here 11 AM to 1 PM EST, Monday through Saturday.
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Well, there we go, and we would also, mister Alvin Lee, and we're gonna launch into another session of trying to get some, some advantages going our way here on the Tuesday edition. Radio Ranch, name of our little get together. There's a story behind that. Roger Sales, your host. And, it is the, January 14th, Tuesday. A month away, it'll be February 14th, Sweetie's Day, so you better start getting prepared for that already. And, should you be in that situation, and a week from today, we'll have an, hopefully, a new sheriff in town, and things will be a little bit different. We'll see.
Very optimistic rather than be pessimistic where you look at the world in a total negative thing. I'd rather have a little brightness in my life and, hope for the best. Good always wins, and we, would like to applaud and, recognize the folks that help us extend our reach. There are these platforms that Paul and Alan and folks have put together that, simulcast this program. Paul, why don't you give them their proper credit this morning, if you would, sir? Identify them all for them. Of course.
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I I would be happy to.
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Yep.
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This being Tuesday? Brits?
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Yeah. We got the Brits Yep. Today.
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Yeah. We got the Brits today. This being Tuesday, we are also on, radiosoapbox.com for the first hour, anyways, as, well as 106.9 WBOU FM in Chicago. Mhmm. We're on that terrestrial radio station. Thanks to WDRN Productions, the Net family of broadcast services, which also brings us home network.tv, freedom nation.tv, go live TV, and stringlife.tube. Of course, our flagship station where it all began, the very beginning, was Eurofolkradiodot com or at least for this iteration of the Radio Ranch. I mean, there have been ex wives in the past. But That's right. But we need to kinda, you know, in a backhanded way, thank George Soros and the United Nations for,
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Eurofolk Radio.
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And why is that?
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Well, because they're the one that started and organized this European invasion that we saw first, and, that was the impetus for people to get real aggravated and put up a flagship station like Euro Folk Radio. That was the initiating event. Wow. Wow. Yep. Wow. Come to full circle. Now. And and now here, we started later than them and in our end and about a week from today is when we start kicking their little butts out.
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Yep. Right. Yep. And now we also have a Global Voice with, Global Voice Radio.
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Just look at what we're doing here. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We're covering it. All we need to do is grab some of these people by the earlobe and and yank them a bit. Go ahead.
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And we also have a 1,000 seat conference line that is integrated into the show. Mhmm. So if you wanna join us, come on down. And we have a 1,000 seats active right now and
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3,000 more waiting in the wings. Right. We're waiting for you, multitudes. You know, it was I don't remember how many months ago. Within the last year, John, one of our good listeners said, I think you've got the most important message in the world. I mentioned that on the air. Several of you agreed. If you're new, and haven't gotten your arms around all of this yet, I believe they're right. Personally, that's what's driven me all these years. I saw what this was very early. And been trying to inform folks, educating, and, let them know whatever decision they wanna make from here on. Don't criticize you. I've come to understand my job is just to inform you. You got a choice you didn't know you had. If you're interested, I can help you, see how it works, understand it to the point where you've got enough confidence, excuse me, to move forward.
So, we've had some pretty good shows here at first start of the year. Usually, it's kinda dead, and we've got some folks that tailed over from last year. We got some new folks jumping on this year, and it's very encouraging. All of us here on the forum love to see you new students because it reinforces us. And, as my teacher, John Benson, said so many years ago on that stage so correctly, the only way I can protect my liberty all the way down here in Ecuador is to help you protect yours. And most people I run across don't even have any idea what liberty is, honestly, nor how to achieve it.
And, the old Harriet Tubman quote, you've heard of this before, Paul, but it's just so, it it just it just hits it right on the head, really, when you think about it. Harriet Tubman said, I freed a 1,000 slaves, and I could have freed 1,000 more if they only knew they were slaves. Is that accurate?
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I do believe it is accurate, but if you consult Google or Snopes, the the, fact checkers of the Yeah. Internet at large. Well, Snopes is a
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is a known bogus deal, but go ahead.
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Right. Well, if you do I'm just I'm just warning you right out of the gate. I firmly believe that Harriet Tubman gets the credit for that. However, if you research it on the Internet, you will find that they say that it wasn't her. You know? Is there even Yeah. They would even go so far as to take that credit away from Harriet Tubman.
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Of course. They probably say that, you know, 19 Arab hijackers took down the Twin Towers. They say that too don't online, don't they?
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Yeah. But where's the jet engine? There were 8 jet engines in one city block.
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It's next to Otter's scorched passport on the sidewalk, you dummy. Okay. So, anyway, that's where we are. I liked that quote. I if she said it or not, great. It would be fitting that she would have, but whatever. Even if it was, you know, an an animus could have said it, and it'd still be applicable.
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I am going to posthumously
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attribute it to her. To And that's Okay. Give the old gal story and I'm sticking to it. Gal yeah. I give the old gal some credit. She did a lot of good work back then, and, we're trying to do good work for everybody now. It's not just black slaves. It's all kind of slaves. Man, we got all kind of ethnicities that are in this voluntary servitude deal, and you just don't know that's what you're in. You know? You just don't know that's what you're in. When they ask you the question that locks you in, you're kinda scared not to answer no, I think. That's the feelings I look back and realize that I had years ago. Even back after I knew this in the nineties, I'd see those questions that still didn't connect.
Boy, a few years down the line, we got that full circle. So, good morning, folks. We've had, we had a new guy on yesterday from Florida, Jacob, I believe. Jacob, you're with us again today? Jason. But, yes, I'm here. I'm I'm sorry. Jason, Jacob. I got another Josh hanging around, so I get him on the phone. Lots of j's around. That's okay. Yeah. Yeah. So, you've had a little time to noodle on the relatively brief conversation we had yesterday. You wanna pick it back up today? Have you got any questions or anything?
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Well, the I've I've just been wondering whether it's worthwhile to redo the, the declaratory statement on my affidavit for my passport or not.
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I don't think so. It sounds like from what you read me yesterday, I'm a state citizen, and I'm not a citizen of the United States. That rebuts the presumption right there. See, they can't overcome that.
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Okay.
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Alright. And the reason we got it, let's go back to the Bob. Let me go back to the basics of why. This is concept that's very important that people just don't know. It's been conditioned out of you, And that's the fact that this goes back to Vatel's Law of Nations, which was written in the middle of the 17 100. And one of the statements in there is that every man has the right of personal, political self determination. And what that means is you get to live under the laws you choose. And that's your decision, not theirs. If it's their decision going, you're gonna live here, then then that's tyranny.
And they don't ever wanna be open tyrants. And this is what they really gotten us on is the fact that they've stolen our power through this whole scheme of theirs from that right there. Of us having the power, then we've given it to them now. Well, what we're doing is helping you take that back. And you need to understand because you've been conditioned to be very fearful of these people with their SWAT teams and all their bogus authority and stuff, and we're just taking that back. And, and it's your choice, not theirs. And the the the more you can infuse that concept in, to your brain and your subconscious, the less fearful you'll be. And quite frankly, that's how they really control everybody's through fear.
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Yes.
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Yeah. I mean, it's all it's all done by fear.
[00:12:54] Unknown:
Pardon me? When I when I first started reading into this, yeah, there's a fair amount of fear because, you know, you don't know you don't know where you where you might step, and then you've got somebody knocking on your door.
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Right. Well, the best one the best example is IRS. You bring up IRS and say, oh, I knew somebody who got their house stolen. No. That can't be right. I don't want any part of that. Well, that's right. They've taken a lot of stuff. And, again, that's what tells me I don't know if you've got you you read my book. You probably got exposed to some of this, but one of their main tools is the remedy inside the Babylonia merchant code, the UCC, called self help remedies. Have you delved into that at all?
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Just just through the through your book.
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Okay. Well, most people don't know what they are. I didn't, certainly. But if you go say lean, levee, garnishment, seizure, people generally recognize 1 or more of those, and these are their weapons. Now there's all kinds of process that have gone into them getting to a point where they can just go grab things. And I think that's partially what makes people in our community think we're dealing with admiralty law is because it's kinda like prize that we were discussing, I think, yesterday or day before, which is the remedy in admiralty. You know? I I've I've got my job my my English flag up, and I see you over there, and I'm gonna bring my ship up next to you. And just about when we get close, I'm gonna yank that down and throw the jolly roger up. That's your notice.
And the right to be heard is I'm gonna try and board your ship and kick your ass and take your stuff. Okay? That's the process in Admiralty. Here, you got a whole bunch of process. There's some agreement that you sign somewhere that's got these things in it that allow them to use those remedies. There's only certain areas of law they can use those remedies. And, even though you didn't understand it, it was in the original contract that you signed. And so that I've thought over the years is what partially puts this fear in people because they don't understand this, self help remedy deal. It's really, it's really a very valid way to do things. But like everything else that they can twist and turn and manipulate, they've, weaponized it.
They're very good at that. So, anyway, that's a that's a real important thing, to understand, and I think that that's what scares people an awful lot, quite frankly. You know, it was those remedies. We were talking about this the other day. It was those remedies, self help remedies, since the institution of the Babylonian merchant code. They've been around a long time, and it was those remedies that changed the Roman law from basically the Roman common law to the combination of common law and and merchant law, which is called the Roman civil code.
And it was the incorporation of these remedies and the rest of the body that goes behind them into the Roman law that combined them, and, it's been happening ever since. That's what the United States Code is. It's this blending of those 2. Do you do you understand what I'm talking about there? Yes. It's very okay. Well, yeah, it was in my book. It was in the book, so you read it. Yeah. Anyway, it's, there's a lot here. It's deep. You find out the deeper you take a layer off the the bigger liars, murders, thieves they are, and now we got them right by the short hairspray.
It's just a joy. I can't believe that we've got this. To my knowledge, no one else in the history has ever had this on them before, this tight. K? So, anyway, it's a it's a thrill, and I'm pretty dedicated and committed to this is the project in my lifetime. I feel like this is the reason that God put me on this earth, and I can look back over my previous life and all the experiences I had, add some dimension to what we're doing right here, that allows us to do this. And I'm tickled to death to step up and grab the group, pick up the gauntlet, and go after these sorry bastards.
[00:17:26] Unknown:
Yeah. Yes, sir. They are sorry bastards.
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And the more of them, the more of us that we can get, the the the better chance we got of doing damage to them. So anything else?
[00:17:40] Unknown:
I was one of those in this in the in the camp of of I used to I used to think that that admirality maritime law was applying, until until recently, until I came across some of your stuff. And then I realized that it's really the mer the law merchant that that Yep. That's become UCC that that applies.
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Have you seen that little scan that we put up on the on the web here fairly recently last couple of months? We talked about it. 1 of the gals kept urging me to go get it scanned, and I did, and it's on the website somewhere. But it's all the breakdown of these bodies of law. What the body of law is, common law, equity, ecclesiastical, admiralty, maritime, and it's all of those. And every one of those bodies of law has different characteristics. What they call the presiding officer's different. What the labels for, actions are, are all different.
Oh, and especially what the remedies are. And this is where that formula feeds in to become so important because you never hear anybody in the patriot community very, very rarely if ever talk about remedies. Oh, they're real big on rights. They don't know what they are. They call them constitutional rights when the only rights that document gives you are civil rights under the 14th amendment. So they even mislabel it, even our best attorneys, unfortunately. This is how deep this goes. Okay? But and they they they occasionally will mention duty, but they virtually never mention remedy. And it's as important as the other 2. So these are the things that I wouldn't know if John wouldn't have taught us. And like I said, he's been a whole most of his adult life study in the old laws that they just don't teach in law school anymore. Maybe occasionally, not often.
So that's our advantage here. And once you learn this, it might be new. You have to get your brain's synapses firing again. But this is what I can promise you. If you'll learn these basics, these bastards can never fool you again. If that's an incentive enough for you, there you go.
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Oh, yeah. I mean, all of my life, I've known that that something was wrong, and I couldn't put the pieces together. Yeah. And then then then slowly, particularly after 2020, once the once the COVID hit, I've had time to do research, and and the pieces of the puzzle started falling together, and I and I realized that this was the problem. You know, the separation the the 2 separate jurisdictions. I you know, I I've I've talked to my family and friends about it, and, I've quite literally lost a lot of lost some friends, and my family looks at me like I'm crazy, and I get the You're headlights look. And I'm the headlights look. Look, I can show you.
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I can show you. They don't wanna see. You didn't lose friends, you lost acquaintances. Right. Right. If they were friends, they'd stick by you. And it's just like Brezhnikov, I think was his name, that, Yuri Brezhnevov, the Russian defector that did that interview with, g creature from Jekyll Island guy, so many years ago. Yeah. Oh, Griffin. Griffin. Right? Gee, Edward Griffin. Have you seen that interview?
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Yes. It's been a long time, but I have seen it.
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And he says right there, he said when it gets to this whatever stage it is, demoralization or something, he said you can put the facts right in front of them and they can't see them. That's what we're experiencing right there, I believe. So that's why that's why do you under starting to understand why I treasure each and every one of you so much? Because, man, look at what I've had to go through to get this message, try and get it out there. Go suffer all that stuff you're talking about. And here all these years later, we got this core group of people that that I didn't rope you in here. I didn't make you be here. You're here because it resonated with you and you wanna learn more. And even though you might be new and not understand any of it, hardly, you know there's something of great substance here, and there is.
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Yeah. I'm I'm kind of hoping that, have you ever heard of the 100th month monkey syndrome?
[00:22:12] Unknown:
Of course.
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I'm kinda hoping it's gonna be a little bit like that. That once you there's enough people who start to understand what what what has happened and and the status of the national, that it will it will snowball. It will almost be like the 100 monkey syndrome. Once enough people know, then they it's like a, subconscious flow of information. They start realizing that there's that everything that they knew was wrong, and they start paying attention.
[00:22:46] Unknown:
Yep. Well, what I've kinda hoped, and I've been delving through. I would've thought it would've taken off when I got on Joyce Riley. You know, Joyce had a pretty good listening audience of patriots, 5,000,000 at least worldwide. And I was on there three times, but I couldn't explain. I didn't under I understood it, but I couldn't explain it like I can now. I've learned through giving these shows over and over and over again. You you learn. The best way to learn this, by the way, is to teach it to others. And, I would have thought it would have taken off at that point. It did a little bit, maybe not much.
But, with some of our people today, Samuel is here because of that and several others, I think, maybe heard those, shows originally, and but it didn't. And, all these years later and then that's been my burden is to try and simplify it where I can get it across easily, and people on the receiving end can uptake it as quick as possible. Because what happens is, as you've seen in your own personal experience, you stumble onto this, your whole world changes. Everything about your world starts flipping a 180 degrees, and you just can't absorb that overnight. It it takes a while for it to really soak in, and and you'll be going along and doing something and thinking about something, and all of a sudden you go, damn. That's why that's like that. And you've made the connection, you know, on some dots. And it just takes a little time, and that's why I've it's been, I've I've been really frustrated to try and simplify this as much as possible.
But now I realize there's other elements involved. It's this Brezhnev cough thing about how condition the recipient is. And the fact that, you know, a large group of people have never accomplished anything, really, except to vote your hand their hands in your pockets. So we only had 3 to 5% maximum at the founding of the country that wanted to fight King George. So, evidently, we don't need a overwhelming part, but we need to get that core some percentage. And and, of course, the big weakness here is not only the exposure to them, if you could get it on a big platform, but also us yanking ourselves out of their tax system, because that's gonna put direct pressure on them right there.
So I don't it's all these things, and we just have these shows. And it's great for me because I'm, you know, old, and I'd be sitting around twiddling my thumbs if I didn't have this. I love what I'm doing. It makes my life more purposeful than anything I've ever done. And, boy, that to lead a life of purpose, we should all strive for. K? So it it just gives you an awful lot of positives, and I guess I've come to the conclusion that I'm not in any hurry, because I've come to learn that I can't influence this. This is God's work. So it it with that in mind, what I have to figure is that what we're supposed to do is I can't open the door. It's too heavy. I've been trying for 15 years. It just doesn't work. You know? And so I've had to turn it over to the big guy and just sit back and say, well, I'm not supposed to just sit here and mark time.
So I'm gonna go out and try and build a solid foundation of educated people as we can attain. And when the time's right, god's ready to open the door. That's why I call that video god's trump card. When he's ready to open the door and things get really of whatever the situation they're gonna get, and you plop this message down in front of an audience well, let's just say like Alex, 30,000,000, 20,000,000 people. How many people in his 20 to 30,000,000 audience you think would be receptive to this?
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Yeah. Not not not many.
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Well, Noah, his audience, I well, not not necessarily. I think of his audience, it'd probably be a greater percentage, but how much do we need? I figured that we I've influenced at least over 2,000,000, people doing this. And I can tell you the reason I think that is because when John and Glenn were getting tried there over that 4 or 5 year period, and they didn't try them on any of this stuff. Okay? It was all they had 90 counts against Glenn, and they had gotten involved with a Canadian gal who was doing some kind of stock market thing. And a bunch of it was associated with that. And anything that they could conjure up, they're gonna throw against the wall because they wanted these guys off the street. Alright? And and the reason for that after they got, after they got raided by IRS, they went left Vegas and went back to Salt Lake, and, they started running for office.
And John was running against Orrin Hatch, the big senator at that time, and Glenn was running against one of the representatives. And they were out on the campaign trail talking all this tax stuff. And, buddy, they wanted them off the street. Okay? And so with their legal prowess, it took years because it was at the district court level in, in Salt Lake. And, you know, it wasn't a tax case because it was a local, US attorney that handled the case and not a tax specialist. If you're in a tax case, they fly in a tax specialist from DC. So every time they get to a point in that trial and they could have an objection, they'd write an objection and set up to the 9th the 10th circuit in Denver. And so the whole thing would get put on hold until that was docketed, heard, addressed, decided on, and sent back to Salt Lake. So it took them years, okay, to get these guys.
But, Glenn told me after he got out of jail, we could talk more. He said at one point during the, trial, this affidavit came up, and the US attorney stood up in open court and said the IRS has gotten over 100,000 of these. Now there was only 1200 people that paid to go through the course that could should have filed them. But that shows you the patriot community right there, and that was 30 years ago. K?
[00:29:06] Unknown:
So, I think you're I'm You're talking about the Alex Alex Jones show. Right?
[00:29:10] Unknown:
Yes.
[00:29:12] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I don't think I think I mean, he would have a far higher percentage of his listeners that would that would start grasping on it.
[00:29:21] Unknown:
Oh, yeah.
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The the Right. I I still think that, like, the the the people's minds are so set in Oh, well, I agree. In one way that it's it's it's it's like it's like it's it's it's a herculean effort to get to get them to turn and look the other angle.
[00:29:43] Unknown:
Well, see, that's not your job, and that's one of the other things I've come to understand. It's not my job to convince them or get them to do anything. It is my job to do the watchmen on the wall prophecy from the Old Testament and tell them there's danger coming. And this is what it is. If they don't do anything with it, the Bible tells us the blood's on their hands. But if I don't tell them, the blood's on my hands. So I have reframed my motives and the way that I approach this. So it just I'm just telling you guys about it. If any of you wanna respond, I'm here. I'll put my hand out as far as I can to grab yours and help you. K? But if you don't pay any attention to it or wanna call me ugly names and things, we'll you know, as we say in Spanish, and that means good luck. Okay? I'm I'll pray for you maybe, but I tried to tell you, you wouldn't listen. Your deal, your decision. See you later. Bye. If you have any questions, get a hold of me.
And and and in switching my in switching that attitude for me, it takes all the pressure off of me. The frustrations I used to get because people couldn't understand it and all those things. And now it's just my job to tell you you got a choice you didn't know you had. If you wanna respond to it, it's your freedom. If you don't wanna respond to it, it's your almost freedom. Yeah.
[00:31:10] Unknown:
Yeah. I've kind of adopted the policy that if you know, I'll drop the hints and and sort of open the door. And if they don't bite, then I just I I just, I just Are you just going? I keep going, because, you know, you end up you you end up alienating. Even your personal relationship.
[00:31:29] Unknown:
You you do. And well, listen. This message has busted up families, businesses, divorces. I've seen it for 30 years, you know, and I know what a disrupting force it can be. And yet, on the other hand, there are advantages if you're a couple. And one of you wants to live in Babylon and the other wants to live outside. There's some advantages to that situation too or could be for you. And, so but it really has alleviated a lot of pressure on me when I found that difference and moved over and said, well, gosh, if something happens, great. If not, I've helped free some of the slaves, and and, we're we're gonna hopefully follow the biblical directive of come out of her, my people. Come out of her. Here, you're coming out of her politically and, possibly financially, spiritually, and health wise maybe.
But it's up to you. It's not my decision. And here's the other bad part. You see, here's why I can't do it. Because the only thing that changes here is you. When you file this paperwork, nothing changes. The world goes on just like it always has. Your neighbors aren't gonna come up and congratulate you, throw you a party. None of that's gonna happen. So if the world doesn't change when you do this, then there's gotta be some change. Well, that means you gotta be the change. There's no other choice. That means study and learn the information. That's the only way you're thinking and subconscious changes. And if you don't really want what's here and wanna do this, well, you're not gonna do that. And if you're not gonna do that, nothing's gonna happen. That's my problem with charging people for this. Because if you were to pay me, I said, hey.
You know, stroke me a grand, and I'll send you the magic paperwork. And so, you do that. I get a $1,000. You're you're less a $1,000. I'm up a $1,000. And you take it and send it in as I instruct you to, but you paid somebody to do this for you. You're not gonna sit down and do all the study. So in this instance, nothing changes except that amount of of of debt, Federal Reserve notes from your account to mine. And I'm in here to affect change. So it's counterintuitive for anything that I want to accomplish, and that's why I don't do it.
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Right.
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K? I want you people to learn that you pay me by learning this information and making it part of you. And because the problem we've got is an education problem. Oh, we got a Jew problem. Alright. We got all their m a j I k freemason crap problem and equivocation and all their tricks. But the real problem is we've been dumbed down and we're not educated. K. Ask people you know, all these people that come up and you that maybe get confronted with this, they don't know what a citizen of the United States is. Some of these are highly educated people. They don't know what that's a federal citizenship that was mainly, predominantly for former black slaves.
They don't have any idea of that. So, like I said, it's got it all goes back to education every time. And then it's just a simple thing of going through as many of the masses as we can get with the old the 3 sw's. You know? Some will, some won't. So what? Next. You're planting seeds. Occasionally, you're gonna get a Julie, And and you're gonna get some of these dynamite folks that are attracted to this message. They're wonderful people. They're truly truth seekers. It's just like it says back there in Ecclesiastes or whichever one, for they have not a love of the truth.
I will send them strong delusion. They'll believe a lie. So those are the people we're talking about that look at you and call you names. They believe the lie. And, boy, they believe it wholeheartedly. And some of them, you can't shake it out of it. And if you totally dedicated your life to that one person in this message, you'd never be successful because they don't wanna hear it or they can't hear it. 1 of the 2. So, we're tickled to have you. And as questions come up and grow in here, you let us know. But I I think that you could just consider that passport thing a done deal. Because it's not what you say. It's how you say it.
Right. All you're doing is rebutting a presumption you fraudulently agreed to. You're backing out of that. They can't say a word about it, and they've gotta recognize it. It's what I've come to learn. I know it's hard to believe. These guys wanna show you they're so powerful and so influential, and and they control everything. And you see, this is the great lies. They don't. They know it. We don't. That's why they're always so conscious about, oh, who's standing up to us? They're always trying to infiltrate groups and find out it's to take down these leaders. They're very sensitive to this because they know they're on real thin ice. Oh, we've broken the ice, you bastards, and the genie can't be put back in the bottle. You've been caught. I don't know how long it's gonna take us to catch up with you, but it's coming at some point. I may not be here.
It may be after I'm gone, but somebody's gonna come and grab your ass and confront you with this. You slaving, lying, murdering, satanic pieces of garbage because that's what you are. I hate you. Please put me on your hate list. Please. Pretty pleased with gafelta fish on it. So Yep. Anyone else got anything? I've been we've been commanding the first part of the show here. Anybody have anything you want to add on that or ask or anything? Morning, everybody. Roger. Oh, listen, mister Smith. Alright. Let's go then. I'm gonna get Larry. Yeah. Go ahead.
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What is your take, when it comes I mean, yeah, there's a number of different types of law, and I see a lot of things written about the yellow fringe flag. Does that mean a particular type of law? Do you No. There's no
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everybody see that? No. There may be. It doesn't it doesn't have any effect on us because people are insinuating that that's the reason they've got control over you, but it's not. Okay? It might represent that to some effect. It does, represent a, a, military, code. But you know what? Really, I think if you had admiralty an admiralty question, it could be tried in the courts. But you never have an admiralty question. Okay? So, no, none of those things to me make any difference because what we're looking here for is what's the nexus. Right? What caused this condition to happen where they've got this control on me? Why can that man over there who wasn't even elected, he was appointed as a bureaucrat, how can he make man made laws, which regulations are, and enforce them on me? What gives him that power? That's the question.
K? And that's what we deal with. And once that yeah. There may be gold fringe flags all over, but they don't apply to us. You know, it's not am I a person. It's I'm not that person or which person am I. So that's been the big confusion. Our whole movement for as long as I've been in it has been looking for the answer we've got right here. What are the 2 dots that connect where I can shed this? Well, they're like a tick on you or something. They're a parasite. Well, we've got that. Those other things you can ballet at the moon on the gold fringe flag is never gonna make any difference. All this all capital letter stuff, I don't believe it makes any difference. The proof of that, the 7th Circuit in Chicago, the appellate level up there, just, fairly recently put out a memorandum to all the courts underneath that in that circuit to not use capital letters anymore.
It was too difficult to read.
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Okay? Which court was that? So
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7th Circuit.
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7th Circuit. Okay.
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That's in Chicago. Hey, Roger. I got a little I got a little information for you about the gold.
[00:40:37] Unknown:
Okay. It's in Allen, is it?
[00:40:41] Unknown:
No. Danny.
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Tennessee. Oh, Danny. Well, you sounded like Allen. We hadn't heard Allen in so long. I'm just about forgotten his voice. How are you doing, Danny?
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Well, when I used to live down in the Houston area, they would occasionally have, certain trials. Well, not to hold trial, but scenes from the courtroom for some of the big cases, you know, like a murder trial or something. They'd have a little clip there. Well, I happen to notice whenever I was at one of these courtrooms, it always had the gold but when it was a significant crime, like murder, it didn't have the gold French flag. Okay. Is that your And and this is not this is not quite the same thing, but you're talking about the all caps, sort of a related kind of thing. A friend of mine told me about getting a, bank account in up a bank account, and they brought in a signature card.
And the thing that he did was he scribbled out the x on the signature line and then signed it. At a little while, the, teller brought it back, but the manager would like him to, you know, fill that out again. So he did that, and he scribbled out the x again and signed it. Then she came back afterwards and and said that he he had the manager had said that if if he didn't stop that, they weren't gonna give him the, account.
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Well, maybe just like you think like it. You mean, like, x where they say x marks the spot? X marks the spot, and you write your signature? Yeah. Okay. Well, she may have been, like, one of these government officials says don't be defacing government forms. And the next time you go and talk to somebody and tell them the story, they grab the form from you and say let me do that, honey. And they scribble out the x and submit the damn thing. So those are all to be procedural craps and people's hang ups.
[00:42:47] Unknown:
Could be, but x is supposed to be the the mark of a a someone incompetent like a
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and they have somebody else sign for it. Alright. Let here's the question. Does anything like that override your affidavit with the secretary of state? Oh, no. I'm not in that. I'm just saying Alright. Then it then it does well, I'm just saying this for the audience. If it doesn't override or affect your affidavit, it don't make a jack crap. It's great for speculating. We could talk about it. I've been hearing this in the patriot community for about 35 years now, however long it's been, and none of it ever works. You've never seen anybody with a victory. It causes contention.
And, I wanna go back to this affidavit and this condition of voluntary servitude and what correction. If it doesn't interfere with that process, I don't really care about it.
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Roger.
[00:43:46] Unknown:
So, Danny, you get my drift here? Danny, did you go away? Danny, get pissed off and leave? Anyway, that's the way I feel about that stuff. I'm real vocal about it. So thank you, Danny. Larry?
[00:44:07] Unknown:
Yeah. I was just, wanting you to mention to I think it's Jason you're talking to?
[00:44:15] Unknown:
Yeah.
[00:44:16] Unknown:
Correct? Yeah. Yeah. That,
[00:44:19] Unknown:
one sentence on one piece of paper Mhmm. Written to one guy using crayon and a napkin can remove you from the jurisdictional control of 438 federal agencies. That's the current number on the federal register.
[00:44:37] Unknown:
Oh, is that right? Okay. I thought it was over 600.
[00:44:41] Unknown:
Yeah. No. If you go to the Federal Register and and, you know, you look at the count, it's 438. And, of course, they include agencies like the ATF, the FBI, and the IRS. Even though we know the IRS is not an agency, they they are a bureau of the Department of Treasury.
[00:45:00] Unknown:
It's your law enforcement. In there also.
[00:45:03] Unknown:
But yeah. All and the US Attorneys, they are all the lead, law enforcement, officials that enforce all of the laws of the United States, and that includes all of these laws that are under all of these 4 100 and 38 so called laws, man made laws and regulations under these 4 100 and 38 federal agencies.
[00:45:29] Unknown:
They they refer to them internally as little laws. Little laws. And and and here's what's happening. As this administrative street, state, Behemoth, has grown, From that, go to Black's Law Dictionary. Look under the bank holiday in 1933. And it'll say the treasury closed for 5 days, this, that, and the other. It was reopened under the sec under regulations, promulgated or whatever by the, new secretary of the treasury. They don't say new. They just say by the secretary of the treasury. That's the first regulations right there.
And they didn't have any administrative process, no federal register, no APA, or anything. But they evidently had gone into the bankruptcy, and they put the secretary of the treasury in to oversee the bankruptcy because there wasn't one before that. There was a treasurer of the United States, but there wasn't a secretary of the treasury, and there damn sure weren't any regulations. So those were the first ones. And from that little humble beginning there, they have grown into this monolith of tyranny. And so what the administrative state is supposed to do is to be the interpreter of public policy.
You've heard that phrase, might not have known what it was. I quite I couldn't figure it out for years. Public what's public policy? Well, it's it's these regulations, these little laws made by these bureaucrats that are appointed and not elected that apply to the service. That's public policy. We're private citizens. After we file this paperwork, we're not under public policy. That's why the administrative agencies don't have any effect on us. K? And so, so that grew and grew and grew, and then they started having clashes in court as they tried to get the, the the the underpinnings of this new system in place.
Some of the old constitutional people gave them problems. There was no rules for them to follow, And they didn't really, in fact, pass the rule book, the Administrative Procedures Act, and that is codified at title 5, United States code section 552 and following. And that's the Administrative Procedures Act. And that's how did they do this because they're going, okay. Well, this isn't unconstitutional. It's extra constitutional because we're in bankruptcy. K? And I wanna thank Bob for that. Bob is the one that came up with that one day. It's very accurate. And so in 1946, even after World War 2, they finally passed that Administrative Procedures Act. And it's how these regulations are the legal word is promulgated.
How these regulations are promulgated and who do they apply to? And that's the rules that that piece of legislation lays down, and then they come in and they misuse it. And the perfect example was the mask mandate from CDC during COVID, because that was not a regulation that they could apply to everybody, but, yeah, they did. And that's what the court case down there right by you, in, one of, of justice Thomas' law clerks, actually, a female that's sitting on the federal bench. And she ruled against that because she identified the regulation as interpretive.
Only applies to the CDC. Everybody in CDC would have been had to wear a mask, but nobody else. And they went and applied it to everybody else, which is called a substantive regulation. There's 3 types. And the substantive regulation has a specific due process process it has to go through because it's the only of the 3 types that have the power of what's called general applicability, which means it applies to everybody. And the way you identify you mentioned the federal register a minute ago, Larry. As you go to the federal register, these regulations are promulgated daily.
The federal register is, is though the federal government's legal organ where legal things are posted. And the reason they're put there is because it fulfills the first part of due process. Notice. We're giving you notice. This is our legal organ. It's the federal register. If you ever wanna find out anything of what the federal government is doing and these agencies are up to, that's where you look. K? And and if it's one of these substantive regulations, there's a specific process called notice and comment, an additional layer of due process because of the danger of these rogue bureaucrats taking over and doing things.
It's an extra layer of due process, notice, and the right to be heard. So they put in the regulation. Notice, big bold letters. You can find it. Notice of proposed rulemaking. So they're giving you notice. They list the rule. At the end of it, they'll have a person to contact, and they'll say you got 30, 60, 90 days to get your comments in on this proposed regulation. And you send it to this person at this address, and you do that, and at least theoretically, they're supposed to get together with all those comments and revamp the regulation and then they publish it again, but the heading is notice of final rulemaking.
So you got notice of proposed rule making. Let's get some comments. Let's get some due process operating because this applies to everybody. And then we're gonna go through what we're supposed to do. We're gonna bring it out as a final rule. And then they'll give you the rule and then it can't take effect for another 30 or 60 days. Okay? So that's the process, but only if the regulation is general applicability applies to everybody. And that's what that judge found. It wasn't one of those. They hadn't gone through all that. They just did an interpretive regulation and then lied to everybody. But then again last fall, when they were thinking about releasing this thing again and, the I forget which agency, the one that TSA, they did a mask mandate.
And guess who wore the mask? Their people in the airports. Now they went back because of the court decision even though Biden said they were gonna appeal it. They never. And they went back and wrote this regulation this last fall, but they applied it correctly. It only went in masked TSA agents. So this interpretive thing, this administrative state is the big well, it's the deep state. That's what's going on. Okay? And they're supposed to take you elect representatives, you elect a senator, they go up there and they make these laws, and once they've done that, they put them out, president signs them, and then they turn them over to the administrative agency that's got subject matter jurisdiction over whatever that legality is, and they reinterpret the laws passed by the senators, house of representatives, signed by the president. They reinterpret it. They take it on themselves to reinterpret it and put it out. And sometimes, it can be a 180 degrees opposite of whatever the original intent was legislation.
Well, all that's changed. Last fall, we had some big decisions at the Supreme Court on administrative agencies and their process. It's called the Chevron deference, which means they could do anything they wanted, basically, interpret it any way they wanted it because they're the experts, quote unquote, supposedly. Well, the Supreme Court overturned that. The SEC was appointing its own judges in its own, administrative courts. And the other case was, that brought this, finally to the court was down there. I think it must have been in Florida. It was a fishing company, small mom and pop fishing company. And one of these agencies that has to do with that subject matter had passed a regulation that they had to have a a somebody they hired out of their own pocket onboard their fishing vessel to make sure they were paying attention to the regulations.
But they had to pay for it. Federal government was requiring it, but they weren't gonna pay for it. Those two decisions right there, 1 the SEC and the other, this one, has really hampered the administrative state and is, like, set it up for a softball coming over the plate for Trump. So we'll see. He's threatened to get rid of a bunch of them starting probably with the, Education Association. Turning everything like like RV Wade and turning that back over to the states. Yes, sir. Was that a female there?
[00:55:07] Unknown:
It's Merka.
[00:55:08] Unknown:
Merka. What you got? How's how's California today?
[00:55:13] Unknown:
It seems okay right now. Yeah. Good. The winds are gonna I'm sure again. No. No. It's not windy right now. I just wanted to say, you know, how we always say that, they can't see enough of the affidavits Correct. Secretary of state. I I'm I told Jason in in the chat that he would the lord of the matter would love to see his affidavit removing himself from the US system.
[00:55:43] Unknown:
Jason, if you, you I mentioned the IRS stuff to you yesterday. It would be I I think your affidavit with the post with the passport's fine. Okay? So you don't have to spend that $30 and redo that. But since you didn't send one to the Secretary of State initially, and you want a good foundation to do all this other stuff you're that we suggest you do, you don't have to, I would take my the sample affidavit that's got specifically that IRS paragraph in there, and just resubmit it to the old secretary of state. And you might even you could even say this is canceling and superseding my previous affidavit with the passport number so and so, whatever. But it's giving you a real firm foundation to do the rest of the stuff to finish this off. And it's interesting. I had a consultation with a guy over all this stuff last night. So, anyway, you could just take the affidavit or declaration. You change it to declaration. It works that way too.
Send it to old, about to be mister Rubio, a Florida state senator. He's about to go in there, I think, next week, probably. And, so we got somebody new to address it to. It's not winking, blinking, and not anymore. But then you could take that with that IRS paragraph and notify, whichever state you're not working in Florida. You're just kinda down there some wintering. Right? Do you work in Virginia when you're back up there?
[00:57:16] Unknown:
Yeah. I'm just I'm just hiding from the winter right now. I'll be back in March.
[00:57:22] Unknown:
Okay. Well, if you could put that state on notice and stuff and key in with the IRS, that sets you up for doing your revocation of elections should you wanna do that and claim the last 3 years that you paid in? Even though it was couple years ago, I believe it's still applicable to you. And then all the state officials, is this your regular pattern of wintering in Florida?
[00:57:47] Unknown:
It has been, but I, I I used to own a place in Land O' Lakes, an RV an RV spot in Land O' Lakes. So I was out for the past, 10 years. I've been going back and forth The past 2 year I sold that place in the past 2 years. I've just been coming down to a place near The Villages for the winter. But yes. I mean, I usually, I try to get down here because I was self employed, and then 2020 hit. And, I had some illness, and my life turned around. And so at this point, I may even be moving moving from Virginia to one of the southern states, Florida, Alabama.
I'm not sure yet. Texas. Uh-huh. I'm not sure.
[00:58:35] Unknown:
All those good. Northeast Alabama is very nice. Eastern Tennessee, right there above Chattanooga is a lot of desolate stuff up in there. Nice people. Nice part of the country. Florida Panhandle. Have you checked out the Florida Panhandle yet?
[00:58:52] Unknown:
My brother is up there, and I'm probably heading up there in the next 2 weeks. So Where where is he? Where is he? He is in Eglin Air Force Base, for Orland Beach.
[00:59:03] Unknown:
Yep. Know it well. I'm from about 45 miles to the east there from Panama City, Bay County. It's a lovely part of the country. A very a lot of very conservative people. If you like beach life, the some of the most beautiful beaches in the world, tremendous fishing. And, even in the winter, they it does get cold occasionally, but not, but, not as much as Virginia. So that's another option for you, all those all those. Dave and Kaye that have our our website, escapes me a second. But they live right there, in low Southern Alabama right above Fort Walton in that area.
[00:59:48] Unknown:
Okay. Yeah. I'm I'm I'm probably gonna go over towards Gulf Shores as well and and check out that area and see if I like it. Yes. Southern Alabama. Yeah. Orange Beach is nice down there. Again, very good fishing.
[01:00:00] Unknown:
So are you fishermen by any chance?
[01:00:03] Unknown:
If I have the time.
[01:00:05] Unknown:
Okay. Okay. Well, we got we don't have the time for Chicago anymore because there's the Whistler, which signifies that, that our our limey friends and our Chicagoland friends. We're gonna cut you off, aren't we, Paul?
[01:00:22] Unknown:
Exactly. Well, we're not cutting them off. They cut us off at the top of the first hour. So Thank you for clarifying that. Yes. Go ahead. Go to the matrix docs.com to follow us into the second hour, or just, punch up Eurofolksradio.comor, live.globalvoiceradio.net, and you can follow us right into the 2nd hour. 106.9 WVOU FM Chicago, and Radio Soapbox, we love you. Thanks. Yeah.
[01:00:56] Unknown:
Yep. Come visit soon. Okay. Back to the forum. I mentioned did anybody have quick question. Alright. Great. That's what I'm looking for right there. Quick. Okay. I'll get you ma'am after we talk to the gentleman there. Yes.
[01:01:11] Unknown:
I'm sorry. But we we were talking about the the the extra things that you can do where you can send your affidavit, people who you can send your affidavit to, sort of like a Right. Extra cover.
[01:01:23] Unknown:
Well, what's your your password. I'm glad. Thank you for bringing me back on track. Ma'am, we'll get you in a second. The this is the second part of it. You're dealing with the feds on the front end, and you're dealing with this your state on the backside. And because that's where you live, you're weaponizing it, and you're doing this due process thing on them. So what you wanna do is take and this one, again, why you're gonna establish a good firm affidavit because you're gonna take a copy of that. You're gonna send it to your state people. And that's gonna be structured in this manner.
Because it is the head law official in the state, you're gonna send the main letter to the state attorney general. K? And then at the bottom, you're gonna cc or we suggest that you do anyway, excuse me, your local sheriff, your local chief of police, if you've got one, your local district attorney, the guy that dockets cases for judges to hear, and we used to say the local public health official, but I don't believe we're gonna be seeing any shot mandates coming. That's probably not necessary. At this point, you can always add them later if that does. But you're just gonna basically send them a copy of that affidavit, and you're gonna do a short cover letter of the please be informed, or to who it may concern, whatever, that please be on notice that this affidavit is on file with the Secretary of State of the United States of America.
Please adjust your records, your actions, and any records, your actions, and your agents' actions accordingly. Pretty simple. Okay. Okay? Now, at the top of the letter, you're gonna put big bold letters, lawful legal notice, and underneath that you're going to put this phrase from the laws of agency: notice to the principal is notice to the agent, Notice to the agent is notice to the principal. Now they're all agencies, and there's a whole law dealing with agency. And it you've locked them all together with this official due process. Now here's what happens theoretically, conceptually.
You get a ticket from your local sheriff and the DA dockets it. If they've been put on notice, the sheriff would lose his cloak of immunity because he's been put on official notice this has happened. And in his job, he knew or should have known that you are now persona non grata, not in their grasp. And then because the DA got delivered that ticket and docket it when it shouldn't even have been heard because it doesn't apply to you, they lose their cloak of immunity and can be sued in their personal capacity. And because you've locked them in through the laws of agency, so has the attorney general of the state.
[01:04:42] Unknown:
Now would you do that through common law? Would you bring a common lawsuit against them for a specific jurisdiction?
[01:04:49] Unknown:
Well, you know what? We're about to find out because Joe's in that position right now. You were on when he came on yesterday and told this story at the back end. Well, he's won that case. And now because that judge, that policeman, and no telling who all, acted outside of their when they're put on notice and they acted outside of their personal responsibility, and now guess what? The state of New Jersey agrees with them. So now when that gets wrapped up, their asses are hanging out. It's how does Joe wanna go about it? Does he want to take them into a limited court, like a, court of common pleas, small claims court, where you you can't have an attorney and the limits $10,000 or do we want to have another way and go after them and go after bigger dollars than that and bigger things of that that they, that they control and make an example of them. I want some scalps on our belt.
I want something to show some of these other yahoos around the country that they're thin treading on thin ice. So I don't know the answer. Well, I'll keep up with it as Joe goes forward.
[01:06:00] Unknown:
Okay. I was doing some some a little bit of research and and what and I I got, stumbled across Bill Thornton, common law procedure.
[01:06:11] Unknown:
Okay. Have you ever heard of him? I mean, I no.
[01:06:16] Unknown:
Okay. He's got a bunch of, YouTube videos. They're they're they're common law lectures on on common law procedure. His name is Bill Thornton. Okay. And I was doing a bunch of research on that, and he
[01:06:30] Unknown:
go ahead. That's sorry. Roger, that's the one we were talking about where, in the group, I always share that one.
[01:06:38] Unknown:
Okay. Well, I'm I well, let me put it this way. I I probably shouldn't have said I've never heard of him. I had, but I'd forgotten about it, and I've not viewed any of his work. But if he's really accurately delving in and teaching the common law, then hell, I'm all for him. You know, we got our own specialist around here, Brent Winters. And, he's the kind of the guy that I rely on. There's not very many people that know about the common law in the country, folks.
[01:07:03] Unknown:
He teaches people how to carry this up themselves privately as a private individual. Okay. And he teaches, sovereignty, how we how we're supposed to be under natural law and carry on that way. We do things administratively. He likes going into court, but he does teach people how to do court administratively.
[01:07:24] Unknown:
Well, I guess some people just you know, if you're a masochist, maybe you like that kind of stuff. It wasn't my cup of tea, I'll tell you. But, each to their own. So, no. I don't know about mister Thornton per se. You wanna study him? Evidently, he's doing the right thing. Was that Larry?
[01:07:45] Unknown:
Yeah. Remember we had, in the summer, we you dedicated an hour, and we were talking about well, mostly, Merca was talking about how if you follow what Bill Thornton is teaching, you could go in the court and use the common law, and you file what's known as a counterclaim under the common law because you haven't harmed anyone. And so the one thing that you're attempting to do is to challenge jurisdiction. And when you do a counterclaim, when you make that your main argument, they have to prove the jurisdiction first before that case can even go forward. Okay. And so we discussed that during the summer just to give you a reminder.
[01:08:28] Unknown:
Well, you know, Larry, I keep telling you here's a reminder. I'm old. And, some of that stuff just I don't remember. I remember our stuff real good, but it says some of the other stuff I might have a little difficulty with for whatever reason. But, yeah, that's cool. If you wanna do any of that, I'm not gonna tell you not to. Okay? Remember, these are all your these are all this is your freedom and it's your choices. Okay? CS. Alright. And there was a female there. We're gonna defer to the females every time. Oh, alright, Larry. Go ahead. Change up. Hold on. Well, I was just gonna say up email now. Can go over real
[01:09:06] Unknown:
maybe you could go over real quick with Jason to go along with the discussion. How that one sentence on one piece of paper to one guy removes us from the jurisdictional control of all of those 438 agencies. But also, we're not we're not under the US code. They don't they you know, because of the jurisdictional statement of resident. Well,
[01:09:28] Unknown:
some of it may be. If it's positive law, it's my understanding you are. But if it's non positive law and they tell you which sections are which there at the start, it doesn't. This is the Roman civil code of the common law and the merchant law melded together. So, I thought I went over that a minute ago, earlier in the show, Larry, the first part of what you were talking about of remind me again, would you? Or you had thought on several different topics. What was the first part of the question? Well Oh, the one sentence is one piece of paper. 1 yeah. One sentence is one piece of paper. Okay?
Jason, there's a we found this on the Secretary of State's website. It's at the bottom of a document called certificate of non hyphen citizen nationality. And there's a little paragraph above it, but you can disregard that. And because the essence is what we talked about earlier, what what we're all doing, no matter how you do it, is you're rebutting the presumption that you had previously fraudulently agreed with. The presumption that you were born in a position of voluntary servitude in a surety for a debt. And then they ask you the back half. They don't tell you. It ain't a contract that like you go into open eyed. They've done it for you. That's the fraud.
Then they ask you to agree with it. They ask the 2 questions. You sign it. Yeah. I agree to that. Yeah. I'm a a a former, you know, federal citizen under the scope and purview of all these 14th amendment stuff. And, yeah, I give you the consent to govern me in that capacity. That's in essence what those two questions are asking you. And they're gonna take you at your word. And if you tell them that, my god, that's how they're gonna govern you. So you're rebutting that presumption. A presumption of law is a presumption that's based upon another fact.
So the presumption here is that there was a bankruptcy, they you're in this condition, they put you into it as surety of the debt. That's the presumption. They take from that fraudulent bankruptcy and then they ask you, do you agree with this? And you go, yeah. So you're rebutting that. So it doesn't matter exactly what you say, it's that whatever you do say rebuts that presumption. Sure. Capiche?
[01:12:03] Unknown:
Sure.
[01:12:04] Unknown:
Okay. Now the female, who's our gal there a minute ago?
[01:12:09] Unknown:
Hey there, Roger. This is Nancy from Virginia. Can you hear me okay? Hey, Nancy. Yes, ma'am. I can. There's another Virginia,
[01:12:16] Unknown:
gal here, Jason.
[01:12:19] Unknown:
What and I hi, Jason.
[01:12:21] Unknown:
Hi. We'll have to get in contact.
[01:12:24] Unknown:
Oh, yeah. I I'd love to connect with you. I'm in Central Virginia, Richmond, Richmond area. Roger, I have 2 questions. Actually, one is related to what you were just discussing, for clarity. And so, actually, that's kinda covered, but it was about the regulatory state, what applies to nationals and what doesn't. And you're going over that positive law versus nonpositive law. So positive law
[01:12:52] Unknown:
nothing. There there's 2 sections of the IRS code that apply to nationals out of the entire administrative state to my knowledge, Nancy. Those are 871 b and 877 b in the Internal Revenue Code. And, by the way, they're both constitutional taxes. Yes. And I'm just talking about all the regular federal regulations, not just IRS. I am well, I am too. Those are the only 2 that apply to you out of all of them.
[01:13:22] Unknown:
Oh, okay. That's what I thought, and I didn't I just wasn't completely clear by what we were just discussing, if that was the case that you're It is meant it is meant to be confusing. And so the 871 b and 877 b would be examples of positive law?
[01:13:41] Unknown:
Well, they would be. Yeah. I guess you could say that.
[01:13:44] Unknown:
Okay. Okay. And so that was that was my first question. And the second one is about more on the state level. Okay. My driver's license is up for renewal soon, and so is a a dear friend of mine, another new she's gonna be doing her affidavit this this week.
[01:14:06] Unknown:
No. Good. Well, congratulations
[01:14:08] Unknown:
to her. Yeah. This is another friend besides Stephanie. She hasn't Stephanie hasn't done hers yet. But, anyway, I she has to renew her ID, driver's license, and, you know, they're pushing the real ID. So we've been talking about that. So I thought I would get your feedback on how to handle that.
[01:14:30] Unknown:
You know, I it doesn't override your affidavit. K? They can't force you to have something that's gonna override that affidavit. And, basically, you're you're forced to get this, because, otherwise, there's a chance you're gonna be dealing, as I've said so often, with a sub 100 IQ officer with a Glock on his hip on the side of the road, and you don't wanna do that. K? And having no license sets all that up. And I'm not gonna make the decision because I don't know which way is right or wrong, Nancy. I think think your peace of mind, it probably plays largely into this.
And it seems to me that it's better to not make any waves. Now, Nancy, you're a very sweet lady, and and and and and I don't know if I picture you as getting in there and getting in front of the judge and going through all that. I would suggest you just get the license and go on about your life. It doesn't impede what you've already done. And and and, otherwise, if you don't get it, you may be really begging for problems. And I don't want any of you to have those problems. And, again, this is the traffic problem is you can't have an overall answer that fits all because they're all local jurisdictions, and they don't all look at this the same.
[01:15:53] Unknown:
That's the problem right there. Yeah. I I that's not the battle that I want to fight. So I I'm on board with you completely about that. So Yes. But my question is patriot yes. Nancy, an old patriot told me one time, he said,
[01:16:07] Unknown:
only fight the battles you know you can win.
[01:16:12] Unknown:
Right. And, I I'll share something about a friend of mine that I've commented on previously, who's been choosing that battle. But with regard to the renewal of my my driver's license, what I was thinking about doing is, at that time, submit, and I could probably do it ahead of time, is notice them with my affidavit. Uh-huh. But I think I'll what I'll do is attach create a cover letter that attaches my affidavit, possibly my birth certificate, a copy of certified copy of my passport ID and card. But and I'll work that out. But, because I I'm also gonna look at what the state since the residency or resident, we've heard that in some states in their statutes that acknowledges that it's a rebuttal presumption.
[01:17:11] Unknown:
That that's in Georgia. Rebuttal presumption. Right. Right. And you need you need to get that phone? Okay. No. It's not mine. Well, let let me just let me stop on a teaching point here. Mhmm. All of these laws are called uniform. Yes. And that's what they can control from the top down. When uniform means it's the same in every state. So if it's in Georgia, it ought to be in Virginia too because you're talking about the uniform traffic code. Right. Okay. I don't know that it's there. I've never looked in Virginia specifically, but under that concept, it should be there. And we know that the term resident is a rebuttal presumption anyway.
[01:17:57] Unknown:
Correct. And I'll just add that to part of my research, because with the voter registration issue, I finally realized that based on the application, I was just affirming that I was a USA citizen, and so I could legally and lawfully correctly say yes. So Yeah. So I'm that's what I'm preparing to look at for myself and also for my friend, Beth, who is saying that she wants to do her affidavit this week. And she'll be renewing her driver's license early February. So it's topical for us. And Yes. Very. Yeah.
[01:18:36] Unknown:
It's a good idea maybe to send them a copy of the affidavit and say, I'm gonna go ahead and sign this as a resident, but I I do this in protest, and I'm only doing it because of the potential of a backlash, of whatever, through the courts, through the other guy on the side of the road, whatever. But along those lines, that might not be a bad idea at all. K? Then you're just covered.
[01:19:01] Unknown:
Right. In the cover letter, I was thinking about I would be referencing the law of necessity
[01:19:07] Unknown:
in order to keep the peace. Yeah. I think it's great. Blah blah. Those two things particularly. Yep.
[01:19:14] Unknown:
Okay.
[01:19:15] Unknown:
Well, great. I'll I'll share that. See how educated some of our students have? I mean, Nancy Nancy's here because her sister has been listening to me for about 10 years, back from the old truth frequency radio days. And, Suzanne told Nancy about it, and Nancy's here. Look how look how learned up she is.
[01:19:38] Unknown:
Well, I listen to you most every day too. So, you know, it it finds a it finds a home here. It Now, you see,
[01:19:47] Unknown:
what this information does, I've come to understand, is it sharpens your thinking. Because you see the way they get us is they set us up with generalities with these words, with a number of different definitions, and then they pick 1 and they zap us with it. So they set you up with generalities and they zap you with specificity. So as you gotta learn this and start figuring it out and and and and setting up your life to deal with it like Nancy's talking about, now your thinking's gotta be really sharp. So knowing this sharpens your thinking. That's what's going on, I believe. Oh, absolutely. It makes Absolutely. It makes you think an extra step or 2 that before you weren't doing because you didn't realize the importance of the specificity.
[01:20:35] Unknown:
And the contribution, not only, of course, that you have laid here, but that every many people have contribute because I think Samuel has brought in about the law of necessity, and in order to keep the peace. But oh, and you're speaking of, Suzanne and Dean. I I was wondering. Well, he recently received a a bluff letter in response to his noticing the IRS. Yeah. Good. And so we were able to determine that, and it was an educational opportunity. Right?
[01:21:11] Unknown:
Yeah. Well, it's a chance for y'all all collectively to lose what you've learned come to learn and understand in that particular situation. Yeah. Fantastic. You got a little brain trust.
[01:21:23] Unknown:
Well yeah. Because he's been through some IRS stuff before.
[01:21:27] Unknown:
Oh.
[01:21:28] Unknown:
But but so I as I was well, and, I was in the collaboration together to look at this with with Susanna saying, okay. So reviewing it, it didn't really it referenced it didn't reference specifically his affidavit, but it referenced his noticing. It I mean, just by date of the submission. Right? So, but that's very helpful because we walked through it. It doesn't anything that every and nothing in the letter addressed what his affidavit said, but it talked about, it was obviously the whole thing was, an intimidation and bluff. And so, that was very useful because, you know, if getting a a notice from the IRS, of course, if you've not done this if you if you've done it before if you've done something or had something from them before, it create it brings up that fear. And I said, well, you know, you should be afraid because they've been terrorizing us for over a 100 years. But that just means you need to pay attention and learn.
Yep. And, be you know, evaluate what is being presented. And there was nothing about, anything specific. So it's very clear that it was a bluff letter. Yeah. But, go ahead.
[01:22:49] Unknown:
I was just gonna say sometimes I think maybe they just see something and they just like, you were reviewing your account. It takes about 640 days, and you never hear from them again. So I'm not sure if it's a bluff letter because I don't know what was in it, of course, or if it's just some knee jerk reaction from some internal IRS employee. We just don't know. But what we do know is they got no more power over you, and they'll never come prosecute you because they don't want any spotlight being shown potentially or actually on this topic.
They don't want that.
[01:23:26] Unknown:
Right. And we all felt it was appropriate to acknowledge in writing that they received acknowledging their receipt of citizenship affidavit. But Yeah. So we they do that.
[01:23:42] Unknown:
It gives you another chance to submit the affidavit to them, doesn't it? And you know they've got to put it in your administrative file because that's part of their whole job, and it's an administrative court, and that's the court of record. It's that administrative file of what they sent you and how you responded. So it's just another way to get your no. You know your affidavits in there then.
[01:24:06] Unknown:
Yes. And that's how we approached it. And we also let Mark take a look at that. Okay. Good deal. So so that's that was and the local thing for me with my friend who is pushing the travel thing Yeah. So she had spent some time in jail because she didn't well, I won't go into those details. But I was sitting down with her. You got unsavory
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friends.
[01:24:33] Unknown:
Well, she's not, but she's stubborn and stiff necked. Stubborn and stiff necked like I am. I I well, listen. I particularly
[01:24:42] Unknown:
applaud a female that steps out on that. Usually, gals don't. You're you're you're security oriented, and you're nesters, and all that kind of stuff, and that's just a territory you generally don't go into. So congratulations. Well She's got Yeah. As Lisa would say as Lisa would say, she's got big breasticles.
[01:25:04] Unknown:
Well and, you know, the saying that fools rush in where angels fear to tread because Alright. Right. Woman and bullshit. But, so she recently also was traveling, but she has expired plates and she doesn't have a driver's license. And she tried to she didn't go to jail this time, but, she's I don't think she's corrected her status, but she tried to present a common law ID to the and she was surrounded by cop cars or bad Oh my god. Blocked in. I don't know the rest of that story. Actually, I just get very angry with the locks.
[01:25:38] Unknown:
Nancy, was she blocked in or was she glocked in or both?
[01:25:43] Unknown:
It could've been both. It could've been both. Yeah. But I she obviously That sounds right. Encounter because that happened maybe, I don't know what over the last month or 2. And so that anyway, so that's an instance where she's I think it's all based I mean, her actions are based on information that Yeah. Is not accurate, which led to her being arrested previously. Yeah. Well So You don't it causes me it causes me I get very angry with her, actually. It's probably not helpful. But,
[01:26:29] Unknown:
she's Well, there's a better way to do it. You know, the way she's doing it is like beating your head against the wall because it feels so good when you stop. Because she's never gonna get anywhere. And the reason she's never gonna get anywhere, Jason, we came from copper moonshine still. I don't know too much about them over there. That's why I asked people, but I do know he used to have some wonderful sites on that website I've never seen before. And one of them was this I think it was an appellate level, and it said unless the person can prove they're not a citizen of the United States, the IRS can go on to assessment collection, whatever. But the active part of that is proving you're not a citizen of the United States, and there's only one way to do that, and that's to submit something to the secretary of state, period. If you haven't done that, your ass is hanging out.
[01:27:24] Unknown:
Roger. Absolutely. Absolutely. So and I I'd also less time. I'm the 2 my 2 questions. But with regard to my friend who is pushing that envelope, you know, with regard I know we're I'm not gonna go into the travel drive versus thing. But, I think there probably are common law remedies. But if you don't have the foundation of your national status, I think that's the starting point personally. And to remove yourself from that jurisdiction, then they'll learn jurisdiction, then they'll learn about the common law and and procedure if you're so led to to do that. I think that's that's
[01:27:59] Unknown:
valuable
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too. But I think the the starting point is is you're correcting your status. Because you're still
[01:28:04] Unknown:
gonna is is you're correcting your status because you're still gonna have to defend it. Okay. We've learned that from Joe and other people.
[01:28:14] Unknown:
It from John and Glenn. I mean, they spent 15 years in federal prison because they didn't know that. Otherwise, they were totally 100% right. That's the only thing they didn't have, and that's what I brought to the table. Of course. And I'm proud of it, by the way. Okay. Yeah. What else, Nancy? I'm done. Okay. Thank you, sweetie. Good to talk to you. And there was the other gal that was, there was a gal trying to get in here, I think. Jason It was me right before. Thora. Hey, Thora.
[01:28:44] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. Hey, Nancy. I have, information about the, passport I mean, not the passport, the driver's license renewal because I did mine a couple years ago when, before I submitted my affidavit, before I even knew about this information, I did a renewal. You don't have to get a Real ID. That's completely optional because your passport can stand in place of that. And, also, there was when I renewed my license, it asked if you're a resident, but it also, in parenthesis said that that's optional. So I just didn't I I did not check yes. And I think I I thought might be that that's because they want to, illegals to be able to get licenses.
That's just my thought. But, anyway, I never checked, yes, because I thought if, you know, the less they know about me, the better. So, but, anyway, I'd be curious to know if that is still on the, renewal form
[01:29:56] Unknown:
when you do it. You need to go. You need to do a little inspector Clouseau stuff here.
[01:30:02] Unknown:
Right. Yeah. So That's that's good.
[01:30:08] Unknown:
Yeah. Well, great. I will And let us know. Let us know if that's there. See, here's what's happening. That thing with, Brian Howard where we got that information back from the head guy in Idaho that they can't issue a license, state issued license to anyone who's not a resident. That was easily 10 years ago. Okay? Now we've had this influx of migrants. They're letting people get driver's license off of bogus Social Security numbers. There's no telling what these Democrats have set up. So some of that may have changed. Okay? But Exactly.
We don't know. So but that could be what's going on here. But, Nancy, you and your friends go through that and with a fine tooth comb, if you would, and maybe let us know what you, find out there, if you would, so we can be a little more accurate. But there's a chance that could have changed in some states, and they would have changed the requirement in those 10 years. And, god, you know, there these tens of millions of migrants that are in here illegally. Hopefully, next Tuesday, that the the the this thing starts to reverse it.
[01:31:18] Unknown:
Well, my my friend, Beth, who's con considering you know, she's wants to do her her affidavit this week, and needs to renew her her ID her driver's license No. Said that we were looking at the handout on the Real ID, and we know she noticed she did a little bit of research and noticed that that was 2019 or 2020, and it seems to be outdated. So I'll I'll report back when I have more information.
[01:31:44] Unknown:
Okay. And, yeah, share that. Roger. Alright. Hello, Roger. And, unless alright. Y'all okay. Both of you. Hold on. Let's see if if Thora has anything else to add, Thora. We don't hear from her too much, and I like to hear her voice. And and so if you got anything else to add, Thor, now do it.
[01:32:02] Unknown:
No. That was it. Thank you.
[01:32:05] Unknown:
Okay. Thank you. Good to hear you, sweetie. And That's something for Ken. Okay. Go ahead, Mark. Nancy and, Thor, I just want to know about the vehicle code. Talk right in right in the microphone. You're you're blurred. Start again.
[01:32:22] Unknown:
I found the vehicle code for California. And on the vehicle code, it says, for, words and phrases, this is 260. And letter a says a commercial vehicle is a motor vehicle of a type required to be registered under this code used or maintained for transportations of persons for hire, compensation, or profit or just or designed, used, or maintained primarily for transportation of property. Then there's the letter b, which is why I'm not registering my my auto is passenger vehicles and house cars that are not used for transportation of persons for hire compensation or profit are not commercial vehicles.
[01:33:13] Unknown:
That's nice. That's very explicit right there in the code. Yep.
[01:33:18] Unknown:
I that's I added that to a notice to the DMV, and I told them I'm not gonna be using their I'm not gonna be participating with the registration or using my license, and I do not consent for them or authorize them to use my license or,
[01:33:38] Unknown:
you know, anything with the registration. Okay. I just need to job of finding that, interpreting it, reacting to it. Good work. K?
[01:33:47] Unknown:
Now there's 2 or 3 options. Commerce. I drive in commerce, so I would would do that. I would I would need to Thora? But
[01:33:55] Unknown:
Thora drive Nancy, you drive in commerce?
[01:33:59] Unknown:
Yeah. I'm a rideshare driver since I got fired from my state department. Funny. I was
[01:34:04] Unknown:
I was gonna bring that up and and say Uber people and and folks like that would be acting in commerce. Yeah. Well, then you legitimately need well, then you legitimately need that license, Nancy. Okay, Samuel. I'm gonna try and get to y'all. Everybody wants to talk. I beg people to talk. Can't get anybody to open up. Today, we're overwhelmed. Samuel.
[01:34:27] Unknown:
Yeah. Nancy, I, I lived in Virginia for 2 years in the in the late seventies, and when I went to Richmond, I was completely impressed by all of Richmond, I was completely impressed by all of the beautiful Confederate statuary and stuff that was there. Is is that truly all been ripped out?
[01:34:46] Unknown:
It has. Except for the one to the the black tennis player.
[01:34:53] Unknown:
Of course. Or to, the the the Confederate general that was the turncoat, Pike up there in DC or Judah p Benjamin's damn statute down there in New Orleans and all those, they still stand. Well, hopefully, maybe Trump will put some of those things back up, I hope. We'll see. Okay. You got plenty you got plenty on his plate, folks. Okay. Samuel, there was another person trying to get in there too if you wanna come forward, please.
[01:35:24] Unknown:
Yeah. It's Chris from California.
[01:35:26] Unknown:
Okay. Cliff? Yeah. Hi, Cliff. Chris. Chris. What are you? Chris. Oh, okay. Chris. Hey, man. Well, your phone's a little always a little bit distance probably where you live or whatever, but good to see you. How you doing? How can we help you?
[01:35:44] Unknown:
Just fine. 2 things. So I'm about ready to send in the affidavit. Should it be affidavit of national or affidavit of citizenship?
[01:35:53] Unknown:
National, the affidavit of citizenship evidence, Just like it's the sample. And the reason Let me tell you the reason. I wanna tell people the reason. We do We don't pull things out of our sphincter muscle here. We do all these things because there's a reason for it. And the reason is because that's how they identify the in affidavits internally at the state department.
[01:36:19] Unknown:
Right.
[01:36:22] Unknown:
Okay. And we wanna make sure we're on the same definition page as they are.
[01:36:29] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. I've, I've been I've been familiar with Bill Thornton for a long time. And in fact, I videotaped a lot of his presentations. However, I'm not gonna say any more about that. He's become a Mason, so I'm a little, I'm a little puzzled by, you know, so anyway,
[01:36:52] Unknown:
I just, like if I went and converted to be a Jew.
[01:36:57] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. Like, Trump
[01:37:00] Unknown:
did. Well, okay. Did you know Trump did? He still he still well, he still put well, I've heard that, but he still gets up and and talks about his savior. So Jesus Christ. So Yeah. I'm I'm dubious on that. Worry about that. That's that's not my that's not my problem. However,
[01:37:17] Unknown:
yesterday, I was on a Zoom meeting with Bernie, who teaches about, corporations, souls, and, ecclesiastical law and religious trust. Now, according to him, he says that the common law has been incorporated in the civil law in all 50 states of the union.
[01:37:41] Unknown:
Well, that's true. And that's what I'm talking about. And they do it. The it becomes what the United States code is, which is the Roman civil code. And that is a combination, a melding, if you will, of the Babylonian merchant code and the common law. Have you have you heard the, the way they did it in Rome? I talk about it on here occasionally. It's quite instructive because that's what the United States code is. And have you heard that story, Chris?
[01:38:11] Unknown:
No. I haven't.
[01:38:12] Unknown:
Alright. Well, it's good. Jason's on here. He probably hadn't either, although he did read my book. I think he said he did. Anyway, the first 200 years of Rome, they were under a group of laws that was run by the, I think, the 12 tablets. And you can go back and see historical references to them, but we don't have any of the tablets. Okay? And so for the 1st 200 years of Rome, that was in essence a common law. They had a very formal, if there's a dispute, they had a very formal setting and they would have to have like a jury and they would come out with a judgment and all that before the person could go execute their remedy. Right? And so then Rome started conquering, adjacent territories and growing. And as they did that, the people, the merchants from the new conquered territories wanted to go to Rome because that's where the action was. And so now, you have these merchants coming from all these foreign lands, and they all use the Babylonian merchant code.
So they come to Rome and they're doing business, and the Romans see that when there's a dispute, they don't have to go to court and and get a on the docket and go to a trial and get a judgment. All they do is they've got this technique where they settle up right there on the spot. And so the remedy is written into the contract. And so the Roman citizens, noticed that and they wanted this easy way of remedy. Well, the attorney general in essence of Rome was called the praetor. And they Rome was very smart. They knew how much power that position could amass and so they would change the praetor every year.
And as an incoming praetor would come in, why he just mostly do what all the previous ones had done. They may make minor changes. And so, over a period of 200 years of changing praetors and the pressure applied from the Roman citizens that they wanted their business treated like the foreign merchants, they infused because of these self help remedies. That's what I'm saying. They're very important to understand. Because of these self help remedies, they infused them into the Babylonian, into the Roman, common law that was called the Juss Civil, j u s c I v I l e, the the law of the civilian or citizen.
And over that 200 years on the other side, what came out was called the just, the law of the gens I u m, I believe, which is the law of the foreigner. So it was a melding. Once they got the self help remedies in there, well, the rest of the Babylonian code followed. So it's a melding of these two systems of law. Because under the the color of law, that a Roman citizen was a foreign merchant, the laws of Rome changed. But that's the impetus and that's what happened. Now our United States code is that same thing. We were on the air one day, and I said, somebody look up when the code started. When did the code start? In the twenties, right before they were gonna pull the bankruptcy. So this is intricately planned, but that's the historical example. Now there's another example, Chris, that's topical Mhmm. Right now because we're in tax season.
And the same thing happened to the English in 12/85, and they infused a document called an English well, they called it a statute staple bond or contract. The we the the the the name of it is a Jewish shetar, s h e t a r. And we call that a 10 40 form. It's a specialty contract in the UCC. And it's gotta have 2 things to be this type of contract. It's gotta have what's called a recognizance, and then it's got to be signed under seal. Those are the specifics to make it a Jewish shetar. Well, what's a recognizance? Well, it's a word comes from recognize.
So in the contract that you sign, there is a recognition of another body of law outside of that contract. In the case of a 10 40 form, there's a recognizance that you'll abide by all the rules and conditions under the Internal Revenue Code, recognizing another body of law. And at the bottom, it's gotta be signed under seal, and that means under penalty of perjury. If you you could write the IRS and tell them you owe, but pardon me?
[01:43:27] Unknown:
Yeah. I never signed one of those.
[01:43:29] Unknown:
Right. Well, I remember you saying that the other day. Well, that's why you're not in their records. That's why they're not on you, and you've never had any trouble with them. You've always had some way in your private dealings just not get somebody to report something. So congratulations. That's an obstacle you really don't have to cross. However, as you're telling your friends out there, and I don't know how many of them are in the same situation, Chris, but if some of them have still been filing, you need to understand that once you change status, you can at least go back and apply to the IRS and get the last 3 years you've paid in back.
Okay? Yeah. I've heard of that. Mhmm. Yep. And we call it revocation of election. We've had some very recent examples of that happening where people got, well, you know, tens of 1,000 of dollars back, and one guy that got just high, well, a medium 6 figure back. Okay? So, anyway, that's the advantage of that. That's what the Roman civil law is. That's what the United States code is and that's where it came from and how it happened.
[01:44:37] Unknown:
Right. Thank you.
[01:44:40] Unknown:
Hey. You're welcome, man. Okay. Who else? Anybody got questions on that or any other stuff we wanna discuss? Good show. We've had real good shows this week. I'm very pleased. May I, Lady Linda Louise? May I? Of course you of course you can, you sweet thing. What do you got?
[01:44:57] Unknown:
Well, I just because we have some new people like Julie, Chris, and Jason, the it's the doctrine of necessity, not the law. Doctrine of man made rules. That's what the word means. So it's the doctrine of necessity. So I just thought I would, clarify that, and I yield.
[01:45:17] Unknown:
Aren't you sweet? Thank you. Very instructive. Roger. Anybody else? Yes. There's Larry. He wants to come back in again. Hey there.
[01:45:24] Unknown:
Yeah. Hey. Getting back to what we were discussing before. So what I was trying to, ask was, is it because you've told this story many times. Is it in the United States code or the code of federal regulations where they have their jurisdictional, statement about you know, this is for residents in the opening paragraphs.
[01:45:47] Unknown:
Which which body of law is that in? Well, it would be the here here's the deal with the 26 is unique because it's the tax code and those two sections of the tax code are in there and they're constitutional. So they have to cover both bases, don't they? Okay? So, that's why you've got both statuses lined out there in the jurisdictional statement. An income tax is owed by all, remember they say individuals here. They don't say persons. An income tax is owed by all individuals because it's a you it's a personal income tax. It's not the corporate income tax. So they don't use the word person. That's why that's like that. Okay? An income tax is owed by all individuals, personal income tax, who are citizens of the United States or residents.
And to the extent of 871b and 877b, all nonresident alien individuals. Now, because those constitutional taxes are in there, and because I think they wanna give them damn selves a way out, the high high up people, no doubt, know about this. They had to put that in there. But the all the rest of the 49 titles of the code of federal regulations, their jurisdictional statement is just residence. And it may not even say that directly, but it infers it when you understand what they're trying to do here is they're throwing the big net over everybody.
It's not just federal citizens in DC. It's everybody. Okay? And that's why that's the way it is. Because now even people that aren't citizens but are legal residents, now they're obligated to pay the taxes or do whatever the administrative agencies want them to do, as they should, because they're foreigners. They voluntarily came to the United States, met the requirements to be in our country and work or whatever, And they should obey those laws, shouldn't they? Of course, they should. Okay? So that's the reason. Now, I was gonna mention to Joe yesterday because this is just something I've been noodling on lately and I'm I'm really shocked I've missed this all these years.
But that's why, especially for you new folks, and I tell you that this is a process and not an event. The event was when you cross paths with the information. The rest of the time you're gonna be dealing with it, it's a process. Okay? And this latest revelation to me is the significance and the importance of the 13th amendment. We've always pretty well dwelled on the 14th amendment. This 13th amendment is incredibly important because it had to be written for state citizens. There won the federal citizenship for 6 more months.
All of the 13th amendment is exclusively and strictly for state citizens nationals. And they set it up like that because they wanna throw the big net out of the little district of Columbia over all the states and trick all of you folks into being their damn serfs. That's why. That is written exclusively for nationals. Their jurisdiction at the bottom. Man, I mean, I've never heard anybody bring that argument up before or that approach. Yes, Larry.
[01:49:28] Unknown:
Yeah. Also, you know how you're always saying that a national or nonresident alien is not required to pay federal income tax
[01:49:37] Unknown:
unless Well, a national is a non a national is the nonresident alien. They just changed the label. Just like at the start of the court case, you can define whatever definition you want. And if it goes to the Supreme Court, the entire case has to be under those definitions. That's what they're doing here. We can do anything we want in this code. And we're gonna call you a nonresident alien because we know you'll never figure it out even if you ever did find it.
[01:50:07] Unknown:
But but a national or nonresident alien is responsible for 871b and 877b, But I'd also like to I I think you should also add whenever you say that to new students that they all are also required. If you're a national slash nonresident alien, if you work for the federal government or if you are a contractor and you get your Yes. You owe it. Your paycheck from the federal government, you do have to pay federal income tax. But not a subcontractor.
[01:50:38] Unknown:
Contractor maybe, not a subcontractor. Because because we got some of our people that are providing very important functions that are subcontractors.
[01:50:47] Unknown:
I'm looking for it, but I can't find it.
[01:50:49] Unknown:
Okay. Oh, he's he's working. Okay. So, yeah. Larry's right. And where was the first income tax? Some of you will know, some of the new people won't. Who did the first income tax? It's called a capitation tax, by the way, because it's on your body. So who did the first tax? Well, Lincoln. He did the first tax when he issued the greenbacks. And then that's that's where they screwed up with the greenbacks, is that you've got to tax out of circulation what you spend into circulation with no access for speculation. If you do that, that system will work. Okay? Because all the money is is just a medium exchange, goods and services.
But because Lincoln passed the 1st income tax on the greenbacks, The only people that were required to pay the tax were federal employees.
[01:51:46] Unknown:
K?
[01:51:48] Unknown:
Roger, do I think someone has to mute a little bit? Yeah. No. Well, I thought you were having a private conversation on the side.
[01:51:55] Unknown:
A business thing. Right. Let me show me what I Whoever
[01:51:59] Unknown:
No. That's not me, Hunter. Someone else. Paul, could you find out who that is? Because they're talk obviously having another conversation. If you could put your beep maybe Chris. If you could hit your mute, we'd appreciate it. Now we're gonna get into we're gonna do a whole IRS, an IRS show here as we get into the tax season, and it's fascinating, information. And John and Glenn were, except for our enemies, the only ones in the world that knew that. K?
[01:52:28] Unknown:
So, Roger, is there any way to get Glenn off the show? Because I have a lot of questions for him about the taxes.
[01:52:35] Unknown:
You know, he does he's off in another direction. He doesn't really like to do that, and boy, you don't like talking about taxes. So I'm gonna say no in that respect. If I told him, Larry wants to ask you a bunch of tax questions, he he wouldn't do it. That's one thing when I've had him on. He goes, I don't wanna talk about taxes. So sorry, Larry. You know, you're stuck with me. But it could help so many people out that if we can just I'm telling you the way the situation is, man.
[01:53:05] Unknown:
He would say, I think my sacroiliac is back. I need to go lay down.
[01:53:11] Unknown:
Yeah. Glenn has Glenn has really laid down his life for this stuff. He got burned when they when he as he said, it's so effing complex that not only can the jury not understand it, the judge can't understand it. Here's you're out of it. What what questions do you need to know?
[01:53:38] Unknown:
Well, one of the questions is, I'd like to know where in the code I asked Mark in all caps this question a couple of months ago, and he wasn't really sure. Where in the code does it say you can go back 3 years to, you know, collect federal income taxes? There's several different regulations. I'm not sure. That would be one of them anyway. They are. Okay. Well,
[01:54:02] Unknown:
you may just have to rely on the fact that they send it back to you because I don't know, and I I try and respect all of Glenn's wishes, Larry. K? And, I I it works. Why don't you go back to Wise Paris and look over there? They probably got them listed there somewhere. All he did was steal that from John Glenn.
[01:54:25] Unknown:
Well, you know, it what's so unfair about the whole thing is we can only go back 3 years when we become a nonresident alien slash national, but the IRS is able to go back, you know, 10 10 or 15 years to determine a tax liability. And that's exactly what No. Rights is up against up there in Alaska, with that court case. They they went back 10 10 or more years.
[01:54:50] Unknown:
I it was my impression they couldn't go back more than 7. Now there may be something involved that I don't know about, but,
[01:54:59] Unknown:
May I?
[01:55:01] Unknown:
But, that that that's what I know, Lydia. Yes. I I I hated the tax issue. That's why I came over here to jurisdiction. We never even brought up revocation of election for over 10 years. One day, it got brought up on the air. Yes. You may if you'll just wait a second. One day, it got brought up on the air. Very sharp listener, John, went and did all the research, all that stuff. Never asked a question. Never told me he's doing it, and he got back a substantial sum of money. K? And that's when we started looking at it again and realizing that I had the key to what John and Glenn didn't. They had everything else, but now I've got the key to the thing working.
And, that's where we are. Yes, Paul?
[01:55:51] Unknown:
I'm No. It's me. I was I was me too. May I was Sherry, but I'm next. So go ahead, Sherry. Okay.
[01:55:58] Unknown:
There's 2 things, fraud, which is not avoidance of taxes, but what's the other term? It escapes me right now?
[01:56:08] Unknown:
Well, of avoidance and
[01:56:11] Unknown:
evasion.
[01:56:13] Unknown:
Of a evasion.
[01:56:15] Unknown:
Evasion. Yes. Tax evasion. Ava Which is fraud. And then
[01:56:20] Unknown:
Yeah. Well, avoidance is against the law. Evasion is your duty. Now go.
[01:56:25] Unknown:
Correct. And the second item, is the tolling of the statutes. The the, it stops and starts if they choose for it to do for it to happen, in the collection process. Mhmm. So Well, you don't see them coming after me.
[01:56:44] Unknown:
They're not coming after me.
[01:56:48] Unknown:
Right. But those are the 2 things that govern, them going back,
[01:56:53] Unknown:
a substantial period of time. I yield. Okay. Well, normally, they can only go back 7 years. Isn't that right? Unless there's extraordinary circumstances.
[01:57:04] Unknown:
Yeah. Okay. Me too.
[01:57:06] Unknown:
Hey, Roger? No. It's me too. No. Go. Hold on. We're gonna get Paul in here come hell or high water. Okay?
[01:57:13] Unknown:
Yes. Exactly. Okay. I forgot what I was originally gonna say, but, I need to correct something that, Sherry said. Sorry, Sherry. Sorry. Sorry. Love you bunches. Tax evasion is against the law. It's evading a tax that you are obligated to pay. That's right. But void dense is your duty.
[01:57:41] Unknown:
Now do you know the difference between the 2, Paul?
[01:57:46] Unknown:
About 10 to 20?
[01:57:48] Unknown:
A cell wall.
[01:57:50] Unknown:
Right. 10 to 20.
[01:57:53] Unknown:
And, s, s I got a couple of nice tax things here I've learned over the years. Evasion, that's judge learned at hand. Evasion is against the law. Avoidance is your duty. I like the one my friend Ron Brown when he was fighting the IRS research stuff. Some Supreme Court justice on the tax case a 100 years ago said, the art of taxation is like the art of plucking a goose. The object is to get the most amount of feathers with the least amount of hiss.
[01:58:28] Unknown:
Mhmm.
[01:58:30] Unknown:
There you go. Now who was chomping at the bit to say something there? Oh. Joe? Joe? Hey, bud. How you doing?
[01:58:39] Unknown:
Hey. Good. Good. So just on that tax question, you know, someone's asking about that law. It's in 26 US code, 6501. It's limitations on assessment and collection. And it talks about, their statute of limitation in there. It's for filed returns though is 3 years. So if you don't file returns, they can't assess anything
[01:59:04] Unknown:
essentially. That's right. That's what they're telling. Well, they can if they go back and do a substitute for return, which is where the big boogaboo is in that whole whole system called a dummy return. That's where they do that for you. That's the fraud right there.
[01:59:20] Unknown:
Hey, Roger. You know what I did? And someone had that issue come up, and they asked me what can I do about it, and I I wrote to the IRS? I said I said, is this Social Security number property in Social Security Administration pursuant to 20 CFR 422.103? And, they never responded and that whole thing disappeared.
[01:59:42] Unknown:
Wow.
[01:59:45] Unknown:
Joe, you're a you're a real, jewel. We really, I I if I was Kaye was in the room, I'd go give her a big smack or an hugger.
[01:59:54] Unknown:
Can you repeat that code section?
[01:59:56] Unknown:
Yeah. 6501.
[02:00:00] Unknown:
Yeah. 26 US code 6501. That's for, that's for the statute of limitation with the IRS on, that stuff.
[02:00:12] Unknown:
And then the other code, the 4 0 22. It was it was 20
[02:00:17] Unknown:
CFR 422.103 because in there, it says that Social Security number cards are property of the Social Security Administration. So it says that's if that number is property of Social Security Administration, then that would make them liable for that number. Wouldn't it?
[02:00:35] Unknown:
Yeah. Then they can pay the tax.
[02:00:38] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. I'm gonna give it back to them.
[02:00:41] Unknown:
Well, just fun and games when you go through the the mass of the maze of the web they've woven. Boy, is it a mess. I'm just happy to be out of it. I don't wanna deal with them. I don't want anything to do with them the rest of my life, and I don't care about all that anymore. So you do Okay. Yeah. Go yes or go? Do they have an Ecuador? What kind of Well, I I don't pay well, we've got a VAT tax here, And then they've also got their own IRS. It's called SRI, ironically enough. If people make so much money and whatnot, but I would think very few people are obligated to. Otherwise, we got a 12%, I believe, VAT tax, which I'm glad to pay to live here. Now because I'm Hubel Auto, retired, if I was a legal resident, I could get a percentage of that back every month.
But I I let them have the money. I don't care. Okay? So that's I don't deal with any taxes except that, and I pay those gladly to live here. I don't have any problem with it. So, anyway, we're out of time here. We're about to lay our bodies down according to Crosby, Stills, and Nash. And, and I'm about to get mine up and go to lunch with the the gringos, because it's Tuesday. And, because we're on Eastern Standard Time, I I got a very short window to do that. So unless there's anything pressing for me, I will bid you ado and hopefully see you tomorrow.
Anybody have anything for me specifically?
[02:02:24] Unknown:
I did on that, p o I.
[02:02:28] Unknown:
Oh, there's a female here somewhere. Yes, ma'am?
[02:02:31] Unknown:
I just wanna say thank you, Roger, for Saturday when you clarify title 42 white citizen, title a territorial citizen, title 26 nonresident alien in nationality act of 1940 national, and they all mean the same.
[02:02:50] Unknown:
That was lovely. Thank you for that clarity. Well, then you gotta understand their MO. If you don't understand how they do things, you're gonna go chasing all those. Hey, it's a different thing. I gotta go chase that. And you're gonna be chasing your tail and wasting your time, and I don't want you to do that. I want you to hone in on what's important and concentrate on it and make it a part of you. Okay? Now who else is saying something there? A male?
[02:03:19] Unknown:
George Idaho.
[02:03:21] Unknown:
Hey, George. Quick.
[02:03:23] Unknown:
Hey, Roger. Yeah. The, BOI has recently come,
[02:03:28] Unknown:
come into,
[02:03:30] Unknown:
on Mark's radar beneficial ownership information and, kinda fits in with what you're saying, all these agencies. But, if you look at what they're asking, a reporting company so this is probably how they're gonna try to cancel little guys. They have full legal name, any trade name, complete US address, state, tribal, or foreign jurisdiction of formation. And they've got for each beneficial owner and company applicant, full legal name, date of birth, complete current address, unique identifying number, and issuing, jurisdiction form from one of the following, US passport, state driver's license, identification document, blah blah blah. And, this is that Finsen identifier. It's called small FTC compliance guide. And I was curious, you know, as a national, let's say you form an LLC, maybe this is a mark question, but, do you I mean, they're threatening the same thing they did with taking in the gold, $10,000 or 1 year in prison or whatever, 10 years in prison, if you don't do these things. And, so I'm kinda curious as how, as a national, you operate around these. As a small as a small entity,
[02:04:41] Unknown:
well, I would look over all of those if you gotta fill out something and find out where they're hiding it. Because they're hiding it in there somewhere. It's gotta be in there. If that's a public information gathering request, it's gonna have to have an o m b number too. And it sounds like it might be. That's another angle to look at. And just there it's hidden somewhere in those options they give you. It's gotta be there.
[02:05:07] Unknown:
I see. Because, yeah, this thing actually lost on a lost on appeal, I guess, and, whether it's constitutional or not. And then Florida and some other states are challenging the constitutionality of it as well.
[02:05:19] Unknown:
Good deal. It ought to be. So I don't know. I hadn't come confronted with that beneficial ownership. I remember us talking about it. I don't remember about it too much specifically. Mark Mark's been hadn't been here for a few days. Hopefully, he'll show up again quickly.
[02:05:36] Unknown:
May I? Okay. So,
[02:05:38] Unknown:
yes, ma'am.
[02:05:39] Unknown:
Hi. It's Julie.
[02:05:41] Unknown:
Hey, Julie.
[02:05:43] Unknown:
Hi, guys. Yeah. So I have a lot of familiarity with that corporate transparency act, and, my understanding is it's still unconstitutional, and you don't need to do that. I'm very irritated about it as well. Yep. It you don't have to do the corporate it's been appealed a 1000000 times, and it's still being appealed. And, these courts are just so corrupt. The the huge organization that, put a lawsuit, against this as unconstitutional and won in court, the, courts came the Treasury and the courts came back and said, oh, but that appeal is only applicable to that organization. Everybody else has to comply. And it's all about, quote, unquote, tracking money launderers and putting an end to money laundering. But, yeah, there's 19 exceptions to that law. And the very first exception to that law is banks or banks. Who are my most common bank's money? Of course. Them. So
[02:06:42] Unknown:
all the all the all of The drug people couldn't operate without that. Julie, I appreciate what you're doing. I'm going to lunch. I'll see you all tomorrow. Okay?
[02:06:50] Unknown:
Okay.
[02:06:51] Unknown:
Alright. It's a drug Tell the rest of the folks tell the rest of the folks if you want to, but, I'm I'm not you know? Tell them. Because I don't know much. I can't add anything. Do what, Paul?
[02:07:05] Unknown:
It's not only unconstitutional.
[02:07:08] Unknown:
It's none of their dang business, and it's downright un American. Well, it's like glass. It's like licensing you, and and and a license is permission to do something that's illegal. If you're a national, then your business ain't illegal. Right? Right. So anyway, thank you, sweetie. And, everybody else, and I'll see you tomorrow. And, you know, Tuesday's a special day for me. So we got a pretty day. We're getting finally people back in from extended holidays and crap. So we ought to have a good crowd today, and I'm anxious to go mingle with them.
[02:07:43] Unknown:
Bon appetit. Mingle. I will.
[02:07:47] Unknown:
Bye. Hey. There you go. Bori hit it. Bumparevecho.
[02:07:50] Unknown:
Down here I understand when I'm coming.
[02:07:53] Unknown:
Walk past pop west walk past your table. All the Bumparevecho. Bumparevecho. I hear it all the time. So thank you. Bory said it. Yes, Paul? Hey.
[02:08:05] Unknown:
That's it. You have a great lunch.
[02:08:08] Unknown:
Thank you. I'll see you all tomorrow. Ciao.
[02:08:11] Unknown:
Okay. The dinner bell has rung, and that is it for the radio rings with Roger Sales on Eurofolksradio.comandradio.globalvoiceradio.net.actually, live.globalvoiceradio.net. You can, find out more about the topics discussed by going to the matrix docs.com, the matrix, d o c s.com. You can also click on one of the free conference call links. You can join us live on the show. Get it room for a 1,000 seats, and we get 3,000 more seats waiting in the wings, waiting waiting to roll out for when the masses come. I'm Paul from Global Voice Network. Thank you so much for joining us. We'll catch you straight back here 11 AM to 1 PM EST, Monday through Saturday.
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[02:09:14] Unknown:
Bye bye, boys. Have fun storming the castle.
Introduction and Host Welcome
Platforms and Broadcast Networks
The Importance of Liberty and Education
Discussion on Legal Status and Affidavits
Understanding Law Merchant and UCC
The Role of Public Policy and Administrative State
The Significance of Gold Fringe Flags
State and Federal Jurisdictional Issues
Driver's License Renewal and Real ID Concerns
Common Law and Legal Procedures
Doctrine of Necessity and Legal Definitions
IRS and Taxation Discussions
Corporate Transparency and Ownership Information
