In this episode of the Radio Ranch, host Roger Sayles discusses the historical and political intricacies surrounding the ongoing conflict in Ukraine. The conversation delves into the historical tensions between Russia and Ukraine, the influence of external powers like Britain, and the role of Jewish communities in the region. The discussion also touches on the potential geopolitical strategies of Russia and the implications of international relations on the conflict.
Additionally, the episode explores the broader themes of freedom, citizenship, and the legal intricacies of national status. Roger and his guests discuss the importance of understanding one's legal and political status, the concept of jurisdiction, and the implications of being a national versus a citizen. The conversation highlights the importance of legal education and awareness in navigating the complexities of modern governance and personal sovereignty.
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Should have Mark with us today. We do. Not him. I think he'll be with us today. Arr. Here's old Argo. Hey, man. How you doing? Alright. I already did my mic check and everything. Got my coffee sitting here. I'm ready to roll. Me too. Me too, boy. Right under the wire did I make it. So morning, Mark. Good morning. So the Saturday edition, this course started couple years ago, two and a half, see, or something like that back during the COVID thing. The thought was, of course, that people maybe were working and could get out of their house back then and couldn't come in and ask questions. And so we started the Saturday thing for those kind of folks. And occasionally, we see one of them. I don't know. We might even have Austin with us today.
I think Todd and his bunch are here. So we'll we'll see. Mark, how you've been doing, man? We haven't seen you in a little bit. You busy as heck as usual?
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Yes. As my mentor, Dan Meador, used to say, I'm busier than a long tail cat in a room full of rocking chairs. There you go, man.
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Quite a metaphor. Oh, yeah. Yep.
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One arm paper hanger?
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Yeah. That too. That. All those guys,
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stay busy. Busy times. Yes, Paul? I actually have something. I have Okay. I have information that that everybody here needs to know.
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No.
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So I need everyone's attention. Put down your coffee or whatever. We have a favored member of the Radio Ranchers that decided to join us today. And I just wonder if she wants to unmute herself and say hello.
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Who might that be? One of our little our felines? Oh, hello, Roger. Oh, is that Mississippi mama there? It's Nadine. Nadine. Hey, girl.
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Roger, everybody.
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It has been a while since we've heard that charming voice from Georgia.
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The Holy Spirit said call Roger now. There you go. And I think I'll be joining you every day. Can you hear me okay? We hear you fine. Can you hear me okay? How are in the world are you doing and what has been happening to you? It's been
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Are you are you still fighting your daughter? Waiting.
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You understand? For me.
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You're clipping a little bit there, Nadine. Are you, are you still fighting with your daughter?
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I I'm not getting the truth. I don't have anything to step any understanding. Uh-huh. But I love my daughter. And I you know?
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Well, I was thinking about you. She's more my children.
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Uh-huh.
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Oh, Cliff, are you are she clipping on can can you Yeah. No. Is she clipping or what? Sounds like she is. Yeah. Clipping a little bit. Nadine, your
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your signal is low, and, you're cutting in and out a bit. Oh.
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Can you move closer with the router? Yeah. Can you get closer to the router or something?
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I have this cheap earphone deal, and there's no speaker on it.
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Let me see. Uh-huh. But if you'll move I'm not to this if you can find if you know where the router is that distributes that signal and get closer to it, I can prove it. Okay?
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I think she's on a phone. Okay.
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Maybe get closer to a window. I'm on a phone. Something. Yeah. I get to a window.
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Can you get to a I'm right out of the window.
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Okay. Let's see if that didn't better. It could be just a bad connection to the cell tower too.
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Okay. Talk a little bit, Nadine. Let's see how you are, sweetie.
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Yeah. It's I wasn't. So I really didn't know about that spiritual wickedness and high in the places.
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Well, that's for sure. Did you You know what I was just watching, Nadine?
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It wasn't no
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I I was just watching a, a Tucker Carlson recent video with a gal that's a nun, orthodox, Greek orthodox nun that lives in Israel. Boy, some of the stories this gal's got is just, unbelievable,
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from inside. Okay. I might have heard her testimony.
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Must have. She should heard her testimony. Yeah. I don't yeah. I didn't get her name, but, she's it's a it's a heck of an episode there. Tucker's had a couple of you can see she's had some real spiritual episodes, the shroud, and this was the next one. And, I guess he's getting off on a what's going on over there? Path. Well, Nadine, sweetheart, we're really glad you decided to come join us today. I wanna see if we can have communication, and your signal's not real good. Let's try again.
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Okay. Let me check. Maybe there is a button.
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No. I think you're sounding better now.
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We need to Oh.
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I think that's Mer saying, how are you? Is everybody, like, got bad connections today or what?
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I don't think so.
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Well, I thought myrrh, Guneer Myrrh, she was cutting in and out, and Adrienne's cutting in and out. Well, you know, you know,
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mer means mer means you're loving, like, a medication now, African and Egyptian spirituality. Mer means love.
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What? Well, I'll make you
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Nadine, let's try something. Can you can you write down the phone number for the conference line and see if you can call in? Maybe that'll work better.
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Okay.
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So so write the phone number down. It's 609
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Give her a chance to get her pencil ready. What?
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Go ahead.
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663193.
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Yeah. +1 976.
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Read it, please.
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(609) 663-1976. Try and call in try and try and dial in, like, as a as a phone number. And then when you call in, just dial 6 on your phone, and that'll unmute you. Okay, hon?
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Okay. Thank you. Alright. Let's try it again, Nadine. We'll see if you can get in here with we're waiting here because we wanna speak with you. Okay. Well, we'll wait for Nadine to reconnect, see if that's good. Nice to hear her voice again. I thought about her a while back. For the newer listeners, Nadine is one of those folks that years ago stumbled on us somehow and hung around here for a while. He's got a daughter that's trying to put her in a way as insane and just all kinds of, distractions there. She lives on the South Side Of Atlanta, and, sweet gal. Glad to see her back.
So, let's see what else is happening. I was still in there. I just listened to this interview of a orthodox Greek orthodox nun and, lives in Israel. And just another one of those Tucker things you may wanna listen to. You know? Mhmm. Mark, did you I didn't get to ask you. Did you watch the Shroud of Turin thing yet?
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I've seen that before, but I haven't seen the update. So Well, this is tough. I've I've tracked it. Alright. Well, I understand, Roger. But I've been I've been aware of the Shroud Of Turin for, gosh, since the nineties. Okay. So it's not a new thing. It's been around a long time. I understand that. And and I saw a replica of it out in Amarillo on I 40. There's this big huge giant cross and it's a pretty amazing place. People from all around the world stopped in there to see that, that facility. Uh-huh. And they have a replica of the Shroud Of Turin, and it's just quite impressive.
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Right. So Well, I think the thing that Yeah. Very familiar with it. Well, I think what sets this off a bit is, they they didn't ever wanna let anybody examine it. And they finally let somewhat recently these five scientists from all over the world, I forgot who all they were, let them in there for five days with it. Okay? So that's a lot of new information that's come from that that wasn't around before. So that's why I say it's, it's really well worth worth watching.
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Yeah. I understand. I just, I don't need convincing that Jesus, existed and was real and got resurrected. So Yeah. But for those people that aren't quite sure, maybe you're on the fence, I would strongly recommend watching that interview. Wow. And see what you think. Because it's, quite a bit of is like a big piece of evidence of not only Jesus existing, but the the power of the resurrection.
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Yes. And and they've got other shrouds that they found, I believe, from around that time, you know, because it was a ceremony that was done by the Jews with this, linen cloth, and none of them have anything like that on it. You know, if I remember correctly, I'm gonna try and go back and watch that again myself. Anyway, I'm curious. I'm sure the listeners are tired of me, beating on it, but it's it was very impressive. It was very impressive to me. So, Yeah. So let's see. Now, okay. I don't really have too much else. We had a nice little meeting up in Elmendorf yesterday. I haven't
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been able to see any of the press conference or anything yet. I guess we'll see that over the next day or so. Miss anything. I'm sure I did. Miss anything. And it really wasn't a press conference. I was like, man, if I was part of the news media and I traveled all the way to Alaska and got got that and didn't get to ask questions, then I've been upset because I could've phoned that in.
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None of the damn reporters in the repressed pool shouted out to Putin, when are you gonna quit killing children? I mean, how freaking inappropriate? Whoever that was, I hope they figure out who he was in Yankee's press pass. Yeah. Yeah. But you know what's whatever. It it interesting. Go go ahead.
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Are you familiar with doctor Paul Craig Roberts? I think he served during the Reagan administration. I'm not sure what title he was. He, he whenever you see him interviewed,
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you'll see him interviewed at the NBC affiliate in Panama City. He just lives up the road in Chipley, I think. Oh. And, pops down there to do interviews because you can see WMBB, I think, whatever the call letters were in the background on the wall. So, yes, I'm familiar with him.
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Well, shortly after the the conflict, I'm I'm not even gonna call it a war, really, but the conflict in Ukraine started. Doctor Paul Craig Roberts was on USA Watchdog with with, Greg Hunter. The chihuahua. And he laid out the history of why the the Russians were in conflict with Ukrainians. And I tell you what, it was quite interesting. That eastern region of Ukraine, the Dubosc, Dubosc, and Crimea. There's three regions of it. I'll probably butcher their names. Right. But those three regions on the Far East Side, they were never Ukrainian.
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Not always Russian.
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Yeah. They were always Russian. They speak Russian. Now, the other thing too, they have the fourth largest population of Jews in Europe.
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Ukraine. And no. In Europe. My understanding. In all of Europe. Russia or Ukraine?
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In Ukraine. The Okay. The those three regions I just listed, they're they're supposed to have the fourth largest population of Jews in Europe. Right. Okay. So And you
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know you know why? Since the,
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well, since the Minsk agreement, the Russian, what do they call them? Azov battalion? They're all nice. Azov. Azov. Yeah. Azov. Thank you. Azov. And so, you know, they've been constantly shelling the people that live in those regions. Yep. For years. And and they had the Minsk agreement to stop it. And then, they didn't stop it. And of course, Victoria Nudelman, said or not Nudelman, but the, what's her name? The, former prime minister of Germany. Right. And I I know you're talking about I don't remember her name either. Her name escapes me right now. But, anyway, she said that that was just a ploy so they could build up resources. Right. So you're gonna find was a lie, and she admitted to it. Mercola.
Yep. Angela Mercola. Right. So she came out publicly and said, that wasn't really an agreement because we just used it to build up forces. Yep. So that means that was planned way back in 2014 that they were gonna take on Russia. Yep. What idiots.
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No. They've been they've been they've been planning this ahead for decades. Go ahead.
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Right. And then, prior to the invasion by Russia, the Ukrainian forces were building up their troops on the border of those three provinces. And so that's when, when, and then on top of that saying, you know, Ukraine is saying that we're going to join NATO. Well, that was it. That was like the last straw. And that's when Russia invaded. So, you know, everything that the press is telling you is a lie. Oh, what is wrong? I see Putin trying to liberate those three providences from, being slaughtered by Ukraine.
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Yes. Well, they from 1934 well, from 2014, shortly after that, you're right. They moved 155 millimeter howitzers in there, and they would just shell all that, Eastern region. Donetsk and the there's a couple other big cities over there. Of course, Russia has got their traditional only warm water port in the world there in the Black Sea with Sevastopol. And so what they would do, Mark, is they were hurling these one fifty five millimeter shells into the cities, and they'd hurl one in, and then they wouldn't change the settings on the cannon. So they'd wait about twenty minutes, thirty minutes till all the people came in to try and rescue the people from the first shell, and they drop another one right on top of them. Same spot. Right.
They're just ugly people. Now do you know why there's so many Jews there? No. I don't. That's Kuzaria. Ukraine was where the Khazars came from. Oh. These are all your Eastern European. Ashkenazi Jews came out of Ukraine. They're all the international bankers. And the one thing that the lady I was just listening to was saying, she said, well, if the Palestinians weren't there, the Israelis would be having this kind of war with the Orthodox. Because and I heard a rabbi say they hate us more than they hate you or the Palestinians. And so, yeah, that's, the importance of this. And what they were doing was they want to because of the because the, you know, they're like a bird that's, that's messed up its nest.
Right? And they've messed up their nest down there where they got enemies on every side. They're constantly fighting. Who if you were a Jew, would you wanna live in a war zone? Well, that's Israel. Oh, okay. And so what they were planning on doing was moving up to the Ukraine and making that greater Israel in Europe. And that's what this whole move is about. Okay? That's why BlackRock was coming in. We're gonna make this the most technological country in the world, etcetera, etcetera, when they rebuild it. That's what's going on. They had when this war broke out, there was about 30,000, maybe more, Jews that they had brought up from the, West Bank and the settlements, and they had brought them up to Ukraine. And when the war started, they flew them all back to Israel and let the Ukraines go spill their blood on their land for this little effort to retake over the country. And can you imagine what would happen to Europe if this bunch moved in there?
I mean, do you look at the Middle East and this bunch of avid Zionists move back up into there in that part of Europe. My god. It's a horror thought. So, anyway, that's a lot of background there. You may not have known that folks in the audience, but this is the ancient land of Khazaria. And the reason that they still hate these people carry hate for a long time. Have you noticed? Yeah. Yeah. Excuse me. And they have the same relationship with the Russians who used to be called before Russia was a country, they were known as the Rus', and they're Anglo Saxons. They're related to us.
And they came down and destroyed Caesarea, and that's when all of the Eastern European Jews who had converted in mass to Judaism at one point, their leader thought that the country was going astray, and they didn't wanna convert to Christianity or Islam because they fed off of trade caravans that were going through the major it's a major trade care, routes through into Europe there. And so they would prey on those caravan caravans and say, well, give us 10% of the value of your caravan. If they didn't do it, they'd kill them and take everything. Okay? And so that was the origins of it. The the leader thought that they were getting out of control and wanted them to have some sort of spirituality.
He didn't wanna go with Christianity or Islam. One of the people in his court was a Sephardic Jew, and they converted in mass to Judaism. Now you can read about this. A bunch of people tell you it's bullshit. It's not. It's true. You can go back and read by a guy named Kunstler, I believe. Kessler Kessler, our author Kessler wrote a book called the thirteenth tribe, and, that's all about that. And then they killed him for it evidently, died mysteriously. So that's the importance of this Ukraine thing. That's the underpinnings of all of it and this buretinent ancient hatred of the Rus', the Anglo Saxons, the Slavs by the Jews. They're from Kazaria who were not really Jews. These are the ones you go back to Revelation two and three nine. Those who say they're Jews that are not. That's these Eastern Ashkenazi, Jews. They look down on all the other sex and factions of Judaism.
And, their estimates on this are that 96% of the Jews in the world that call themselves Jews are Ashkenazi. So it's a huge majority inside the Judaic ethnicity on who these people really are. And all of your international bankers are these Eastern k Kazarian Jews that and once the rust came down and broke up the country, they all migrated down into Eastern Europe, and that's where we've had all the problems ever since. Yeah. I mean, really. But that's some history. Really messed up. If you didn't know the importance of it, it's really important specifically to them.
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Yeah. Well, I I've been thinking about this for quite some time. And I think I heard another, TV analyst or, you know, Trump analyst, whatever you wanna call them, come out and kinda say somewhere. But I'm gonna go ahead and share this. I don't have any way of getting a message to Trump, and I don't know why he hasn't done this. And maybe this is a backup plan. But my thought was, you know, Zelenskyy come out and said, we didn't get all this money that you supposedly sent us. Right? And so I'm thinking, well, yeah, you bought three, three mansions with our money. One of them, I believe, is in Miami.
All your generals have been driving fancy cars, and buying things all around the world, mostly like real estate. And now you're going to say, oh, we never got all that money. We didn't get all the funds. Right? And I'm thinking, you know, I think it was was it during rape? Maybe not Reagan. But they they went in and got Noriega out of his own country. I think that was Bush. We sent in spec okay. Bush. Yeah. So Bush sent in special forces and extracted Noriega out of his own country and brought him to The United States and put him up for trial.
Yeah. Right? Yep. They could do the same thing with Zelensky.
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They could. They could do the same thing with some of these Mexican cartels they're threatened to invade on down there too.
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Right. Right. Well, I think they've already declared war on them for the most part. Yeah. But, yeah. I I think they could do that. And then, you know, and I understand Putin. I mean, when Zelensky got in, he become a dictator. He he canceled all the elections, ran off anybody who politically was opposing him. Close the people. Put him in jail
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and kill him and everything else. Off the Orthodox church. One of its beginnings was there in Kiev. Right. Right. That was a yeah. And, you know, I still hear people, refer to Putin as a dictator. Putin has been legitimately elected six times. He's got an over 90 percentile approval record from the people. The people that don't like him, the reason they don't don't think he's tough enough, and yet they and yet they call him a dictator. And this Zelensky guy, he's unelected. He's run out. He's closed all the opposition. He's done all this bad stuff. Well, he's the prince. Well, hopefully, he's at a point where he better really watch out.
And, they may be taking him out here pretty quickly and replacing him with some general. So we'll see. Yeah. Very interesting times over there. And there are some important things that will come out of these, announcements from this Elmendorf meeting. But it just brings back a lot of memories of my youth, by the way, when I think of Elmendorf, and the times I had. That's pretty cool. I can remember a story. You'll like this. You'll like this, Mark. You know, I was from a big fishing family. Right? Of course, if you're in Alaska, you're gonna fish for salmon. There's a bunch of different kinds of salmon. There's about seven different varieties.
And, the one that when we got up there, they had outlawed catching was king salmon. That's the one that gets up seventy, eighty pounds. You know? And, but if you go from Anchorage up to Elmendorf, there's a valley that's cut through there by a river called Ship's Creek. And and you you and it was you came down from Anchorage Hill and then came down through this valley. It's been cut by this river, and then you go up another hill, and Elmendorf is up there. It's called Mountain View if I remember. Right? And, so but you you could still fish in that river. There's a lot of traffic going. There's a bridge there, one, two lane with the cars going back and forth.
And so, I I went out there and for Kings. And when Kings were running, they're one of the first ones to run and went out there. And damned if I didn't hook about a 35 or 40 pound king salmon in that creek. Woah. And I was fighting that big old lugger and and looked up, and there's just cars parked along the side of the road watching me fight this fish. And, and I finally got him in, you know, but I had to, release him. But yeah, I was bringing back memories of that. For a young boy that's about 14, 15 years old is pretty impressive stuff, you know? Right.
Right. So, anyway Well,
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I'm gonna call a prediction now Okay. That that Putin is going to ask for the Luwansk, the Donbasque, and Crimea. Oh, yeah. They're not giving us that. If there's any other former Russian territories over there. But I promise you, he's gonna ask for those Right. Territories to become part of Russia. Without what they voted the referendum. 98%
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of them voted to be with Russia. It's like, remember during World War two when Hitler invaded Austria? You know, oh, Hitler, the the tyrant invaded Austria. Yeah. If you've ever seen any films of that, no. The same thing, 97% of the people voted to be under Germany. And it shows him going into Austria with, like, hundreds of thousands of people on both sides of the road clapping and cheering and waving. Yeah. It's a parade. Yeah. Yep. Basically, parade.
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So but, yeah, mark my words. Now that there might be another I think there's maybe one or two other real small territories that might be still part, you know, that would have been part of Russia. I'm not sure. But those are the three major ones. And I promise you the Putin is gonna wanna pull them back into Russia because of the conflict that Ukraine has with the people in those provinces.
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Well, he won't he won't let them go. And also included in that is Sevastopol. Sevastopol is in that territory with that big bridge that goes across the Black Sea that they've been trying to blow up. All that's over there by Crimea. No. He will not give that up.
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So anyway Well, Zelensky may not have a choice.
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Well, Zelensky is about to maybe get hung. So, you know, we'll see. Yeah. Let me ask the audience. Any of you And why doesn't
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why doesn't Trump just come out and spill the beans on the whole lead up to this and why we're even there? I just don't get that. Well, you know what? We haven't heard brought up either in this whole conversation is the Nord Stream
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where, noodle Noodleman blew that thing up with, Jake Sullivan and those creeps. I hope that comes up. It hadn't even been mentioned, okay, at public. Yeah. So anybody in the audience got any questions on that? I don't know. We launched off on a little background. It's pretty important information if you weren't. Had never been exposed to it before. So any questions or comments from any of the new folks or anybody? Hey, Roger. Well, there's Dave. Yes, Dave.
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Hey. Good morning, everybody. I just wanted, you know, not you guys not to not to forget that $100,000,000 yacht that Chitlinski bought
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with our money. Well, I didn't know about the yacht, but it doesn't surprise me. He he bought a $100,000,000 yacht. Yes, sir. Yeah. So well, somebody was over in Europe here, within the last year or so and saying, anybody that's going around throwing money around Europe are all Ukrainians. They're buying up all the houses and all the fancy cars and all that stuff. Yeah. We don't know where it went, though. Yeah. With the money, they didn't get. Right? Yeah. That's right. Yeah. And that's why they didn't get Did you?
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Ukrainians. Ukrainians.
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I You you got me. You usually got me. Ukrainian. Historical perspective on these things. What are you gonna weigh in with?
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I said the Ukrainians, and I guess it sort of proves the saying it's not who you know, but who you blow. Sorry about that.
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Wow. You almost maybe spit What's up? Bit off my coffee there, Murr.
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Zelensky. But I posted an article here from David Duke. He really researched into this. And this whole thing with Kessler thirteenth tribe, it was just another ploy, another trick.
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Well, I've heard both sides, but it's about it's about the Ukraine. It's about these people, and they did kill him. He died mysteriously. So, look. David Duke thinks my stuff's a bunch of crap too. So, you know, be beware of who you're listening to. Well, beware of the research. Why doesn't David Duke take the goddamn time to research my stuff instead of just hollering and saying it's a bunch of garbage?
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I don't know. Maybe he doesn't think that way now. But whatever the case, I'm just telling you, I just want people to know that there's this article, and please research it too because that's how we do here.
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Yep. Okay. So, anyway, the, they're trying to say the Caesarean thing didn't exist. It was pretty plain throughout history. You know, I remember reading a a tenured history professor. I don't remember which college he was was was with, but he was presented with this material. He said, I've been a history teacher for thirty years. I've never seen this before.
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Another article I posted is is about Germany be being a vassal state until 2099 to this Gollum America.
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Yeah. Probably. Whenever they do something, it's because we made them do it, and Israel made us make them do it. So there you go. Yep. They always they're so subtle about this. They're just doing the same thing, trying to start a war, same thing they did with Poland. Same thing they always do. They provoke, provoke, provoke, then it starts, and then you see the second hit, and you blame whoever that was. It's a absolute total pattern they follow. They're very good at it. They're quite skilled at it.
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So, anyway how they went into went into a rant on on Friday the thirteenth in June. Right? Do what? Do what? Rise up and rise up and kill first.
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Help Israel. Israel help. No. That's I heard Netanyahu say it. The first time I heard him say it, they, related it to the Talmud. If if you an enemy is coming to kill you, kill him first. I heard that now you make that statement. And, then later when it was, credited and repeated, they contributed to the Torah. It's not the Torah, it's the Talmud. So, you know, we could almost use while you're coming to us. Does that mean mean we can wipe you out? Because, you know, as I you know, I've stated on the program. The only there's only three solutions, it seems like, to me. We either separate and don't live together, or else we kill them, or else they kill us. Those are the only three, options I see that are viable with this bunch.
Because and, unfortunately, when I say that hold on here. When I say that K. My re I don't even kill a spider. Okay? But my reason is is because that's the only thing these people understand. They've shown us painfully, just like the Minsk thing that that, Mark just brought up. They've shown us painfully over a long time. You can't trust them. You they'll lie to you. They'll cheat. They'll steal. They'll break any agreement you make. They're not trustworthy in any way, shape, or form, and the only thing they understand is bye bye.
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Well, the only other here. Hold on, Gary. I'd just let me get this in, and I'll get off of here. The other thing that, they claim, you know, and I know I brought it up on, Patrick's, and I think Henry McCall was listening, is assimilation. And he claims to be an assimilated Jew, so there's that. I yield.
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Okay. Now who who do they assimilate with? Mama devil? Hey, Gary. How are you and Gina doing out there in Montana? Oh, fine. Just trying to get the garden to grow.
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Okay. Hey. According to how Putin has already left it, Alaska in huff.
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Okay. Well, we'll see. I haven't been able to catch up with any of it. I'd be very skeptical about Hal Turner, though, from my experience with the guy. He was out as being a federal he was outed as being a federal informant about twenty, thirty years ago in a case. So I'd be very careful. Oh. That. I don't Gary, I'd wait for in
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but, the
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real quick. Boy, we got we got phone problems there by today, Paul. So you were real garbled on that last statement, Gary. Oh, hang on. K. Gary's taking out his head. Hear me better than that. Yeah. Yeah. I think so. You just make that last statement again if you would, please.
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Well, I'd wait for some independent confirmation, but, it it wouldn't surprise me. We're gonna go to we're going to war, period, people. I don't give a crap what they decide.
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We're going to war. They're they've got to drive you into war because the whole damn financial system's fallen under. They got no other choice.
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World War three started on June is when World War three officially started, when Trump sent in bombers to,
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Iran. Okay. Could be sworn in. Through that either, Murrah. That's why I'm saying. You gotta remember what's war get rid of
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or gets rid of debt. Yep. And do that. That's right. When World War two started, they killed it a phony war because it was so slow blowing. But then look how many it killed towards the end. Right? So this is just how wars are. You know?
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Well, that, what does everybody say? And, of course, even if they do get the Ukraine problem solved, you got, little little asshole down there that is bound and determined to have regime change in Iran. That's gonna come next. So, just sit back and and watch it unfold and pray. Try and spread our message. So, any, any other by any chance, is there any new people on here today that had a question or comment? I do. There's well, there's many questions on there. Alright. Now hold on. Nadine, let's see talk and see if we can hear you better. I can hear you all better. For real. Oh, yeah. You're you're you're crystal clear now. So when you contact us Okay. Use this route, the phone number. How in the world are you doing, sweetheart? Okay.
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I'm doing fine. Something I learned I don't know what the source was, but that war in Ukraine, the prime minister of Russia was reluctant to get into it. And I think it was it has something to do with the COVID vaccines. There were three laboratories in Ukraine.
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Yeah. A bunch of them. Did you say three or 30?
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Oh god. I have not when when I heard, it was three. No. They're they're probably closer to today.
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It's probably closer to 30. The Russians did overcome some of them and get those, the things that were in there. And the guy that was over it, a Russian general, was supposed to make an announcement just about a year ago, and he was murdered the night before.
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Wow. Yep.
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And guess who guess who financed all those labs? A company called United States? Rosemont Seneca, which was the country that, Hunter Biden company that Hunter Biden was part of. So the Bidens with their illegal money from China or wherever were over there helping to finance the labs. And what they were doing was they were trying to find something that is ethnic specific for Slavs. Like and they could put ticks on birds that are flying north in the spring or or on rats and drop them all over or whatever, but they were trying to bring in and invent some disease that was ethnocentric to the Slavs, to their race, and then just pop those little whatever they were gonna use as a vector across the, across the border there to Russia.
This is an ancient feud, and that's the reason the Jews hate the Russians so much. And, also, because they had control of the country there with the Bolsheviks and, lost it. By the way, if you have any doubt, the Bolsheviks that that were conquered Russia are the same people that are running The US now. Those are your neacons. The well poisoners. They're international Trotskyites. K?
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And so, Well, speaking of speaking of vectors, I've heard that The United States were blowing out, mosquitoes. They have mosquito fires. US
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Bill Gates is. Bill Gates is doing that. Bill Gates is And he's and he stepped it up now too, evidently. There's some new disease that they're incubating over in China. China's locked down. They're spraying a bunch of antiseptics or something. I don't remember what one it was, but they're probably shaping up the next one of these little, virus, disasters right now. So, folks, just, be lord have mercy. Be on your toes. Okay? There's a hell of a time. Just, pray for president Trump. That's what I'd say. And whether Putin left in a hurry or not, I I will probably doubt. As soon as we get finished with the show here, I'll go over to Infowars and check out that, that, female that they've got doing a Saturday show.
If that is true, it should be on there. So we'll see. Who, who else has got some Nadine, what else? Tell us about what's been going on with you. Anything exciting or, noteworthy that you wanna inform us about?
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Everyday young.
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Are you? Are you listening to us everyday? I have.
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No. I don't. I have missed you all. And, you know, I think about you and pray every day. Thank you, sweetie. It's a prayer. Well, we appreciate that. You guys. And much of what I've learned I've learned from you, Roger, and your group, Mark and, Joe and, you know, Lisa. You know? I I know things. I love you guys and gals. So Well I just wanna say I appreciate you. I've learned so much, and God let
[00:42:18] Unknown:
let you know, it was part of his plan for me. Yeah. Yeah. I think people We love you back, Nadine. This is Lisa, and we love you right back, girl. It's so good to hear your voice. Yeah.
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No. You're doing good. It's So anything else you want to impart to us, Nadine?
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It it's really crucial to, this is these are crucial times. Oh, boy. Ma'am, and the love of money above people. Yes. You know, that's what these systems run on. Yep. Very true. Even in the religious community.
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Especially in the religious community.
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Especially. Maybe. Maybe that's what's funny. I make work in tandem the devil and the supposed god or deed.
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They sure do. They've infiltrated these churches through the World Council of Churches and, you know, e Michael Jones, Murr Murr and I have been listening to e Michael a lot lately, and he goes, well, Protestants are nothing but white boys who eat pork and don't go to church. Well, why would protestants go to church? Every protestant church virtually in the world has been infected by this dispensationalism crap. And that that that this rapture garbage and all that crap. Okay? So why the hell would I wanna go to church, e Michael, and get get presented with all that garbage? Who there are even I've heard, by the way, that there are even Christian Zionists right now. They're starting to confront Israel on what the hell are you doing over here? I ain't sending you any more money. So even the Christian Zionist community is getting fed up with them murdering children.
That's a great time. Good to hear you, miss Nadine. Yeah. There's
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Hey.
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Sending you hugs.
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You you sent me an email?
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I'm sending you a air hug.
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An air hug. What's a air hug?
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A air hug. I love it. Just when she reaches out all the way to talk to you and grabs you and hugs you.
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I'll send you a private message,
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Mark. Okay. In Tel Aviv.
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Alright. Cool. So, we've got a new group here, kinda. I don't know how many of them are with us today. I'm gonna hail Todd up. Todd, how you doing this morning? I'm pretty sure you're with us today, aren't you?
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Can you fumble me? Yes. Great Saturday to you. I am here. How are you? We got a couple new new ladies and some new family in here as well. Excited about the process. How are you? I'm good this morning. All things considered, I'm glad you get to hear Nadine.
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She's been off and on around here for years, and, she'd been off for a while. So we're glad to see her on again. You know? Todd, any questions you've got at this point? I mean, you, you dove right in here. Hey Roger. We resonated with you. Hey, Bob. And, if you've got anything that you'd like to tell us or ask us, we'd love to hear from you. In the meantime, while you're thinking about that, Bob is, right there. Hey, Bob. You wanna say hello to Nadine?
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I absolutely do. Hello, Nadine. You may remember my my three daughters and I met you up in Carrollton several years back. Gave you a big hug. Good to hear you. Lunch. The at the lunch. Right? Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep.
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Cool. Here we I remember. I remember. There you go. Sorry. Go ahead. Yeah.
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My joke my joke, Nadine, was at the time that I profiled you, you were a single black woman sitting in that car right in front of the restaurant. I says, that's Nadine.
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Yeah.
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Anyway, good to hear your voice. So think about you occasionally and wonder. Was the only little black spot in the village.
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That's right. And we were and we were and we were tickled to death we were there too. So there are no color lines here with what we do. I don't think color has or ethnicity has anything to do with freedom, really. And I wanna open the door to everybody. I had a guy who was gonna help me and do some web work for me. Paul, this is the kind of stuff I run into over the years. Guy's very sharp, and, and I wanted him to put the Harriet Tubman quote at the top of the page. You know, I've freed a thousand slaves. I could have freed thousands more if they only knew they were slaves. And he refused to put anything from a black person at the top, on that website.
And I just said, well, you and I aren't working together. K? Sorry. So, I'm not gonna restrict this to anybody on any ethnicity or any grounds like that because I just don't think it's right, and I don't think that you, divvy out freedom that way. K? So, anyway, we're ticking that. Roger, may I ask you something? Yes, Nadine. What, sweetie?
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I remember you saying freedom ain't free.
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Well, it's not. But this information
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this information is so pertinent to these days and times, and it's free. You Yes. You you made it free for everybody.
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I did. Everybody. But, see, people to really to really have that freedom, you've got to learn and use your in your brain again and get stuff that's implanted in there that's incorrect out and then replace it with correct information. And that's what really assures your freedom. So you do pay, but you pay in a different way. You don't pay me. You pay yourself by learning the information so that you truly can be free. Because that's the only way. You know? Here, I'll go revert back to one of the great founders, my favorite really, Thomas Jefferson.
Said those who expect to be ignorant and free expect what never was and never will be. So true. So true. Todd, back under the spotlight here, buddy. What you've been around for a couple of weeks now. What, what's happened with you since you crossed paths with us?
[00:48:59] Unknown:
Well, you know, it's been a long journey like everybody's been on. Hello, everybody. Happy great Saturday. I've been just to be quite frank, I've been, sleeping, just the amount of I need to, focus to get up, with all due respect. I just I have been working on trust and things and all this other stuff, people learning about the bill exchange. But then when I came on to you, got by the grace of my most high creator, I didn't do any, status changes or even, believe it or not, after ten years of doing all this, I didn't even do a passport. I just something didn't fell feel right, and I would have did it wrong almost every step of the way. So when I met you, to to oh, yeah. About a week or two, we've been on every show, and we're our Discord is growing. New people from the old days that I had in there are finding their way back, and we're freeing people every day. I think we're up to fifteen, sixteen people with new people coming in every day. So my focus is not this is the right here.
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Well, I we just we we welcome you with open arms. It's it's just, you know, when this information hits the right person like you, you don't even really I I remember when it hit me, and I didn't know Jack. I hadn't been studying crap. I just knew there's something wrong from when I was a kid in the sixties. And so all of a sudden, I found this information, and I didn't understand that my head was spinning. But I knew there was something of great substance here, and there was something that was that was worthwhile with me spending my time pursuing it to understand it.
And, boy, all these years later, here we are.
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And what we found was the the needle in the haystack that runs the world. I I I believe in my all my research, see, a lot of people come into this be and then start searching when something is happening in their life that's very drastic. My situation was a little bit different. I think I was being guided by decalcifying my banana land, getting very healthy, and, you know, some things of that nature. And, subconsciously, I was building a family of vetted people day by day for just a time such as this. But what you brought and what I told them, there in my opinion, this is just my opinion, This is the only way, and it's a diamond in the rough and where you could actually get it done, but also be recognized, undoubtedly.
[00:51:26] Unknown:
It's amazing. So Every time. Never been an exception. And it's just wonderful, man. It's just I feel so finally so grand biblical. Started to well, it's very biblical, and we're starting to build a a a big audience that's educated, a very firm foundation. And, at some point here, I don't know when, whenever he's ready, he's gonna open the door, and we're gonna be ready to, inform the masses about this. I'm anxious to, for that to come, but I'm not so anxious that I get frustrated about it anymore like I used to, because I know it's his it's his plan, not mine. And Absolutely. I actually I I I got to a point where I want to quit a few times, really, Todd. And and, I come back and go, well, I can't well, I can't do that because nobody else knows that nobody else is gonna make the sacrifices that I'm willing to make. And so I just came back and said, look.
This is obviously, I can't open the door because I've tried and tried and tried. Obviously, I can't make these people listen to me. I can't make them open an email. I can't make them sit down and watch a two hour video. They've gotta do that for some reason on their own. So I said, well, listen. What we'll do is, I'm gonna continue to prepare and continue to build our flock, if you will, and, without being blasphemous. And when, when you're ready to open the door, then we'll be ready to present. Now think about it this way because it shifts your perspective a little bit. The worse it gets, the worse these situations develop and atrophy, the bigger reaction we're gonna have when that event happens.
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Yes. I agree. See, I believe, there's two almost two, like, parallels going on. There's the unwoke that are gonna get well, well, there's three. The unwoke that are gonna get woken, the unfortunate ones that will never, and then there's a lot of us all over the place that are prepared, that are living in the moment, and realize that everything we've been through in our whole life, no matter how bad or good it was, we forgive ourselves and we, repent, and we make good on anything we possibly can or make anyone whole, but we have to live in the moment. So it's not just what we put in and on our vessel. Right. It's actually our spiritual thoughts and what we bring into the fruition.
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Well, and the more of us that build, the more of us in this silent communication affecting way, can project our message. And, there are a lot of people that really wanna hear what we've got right now. We just haven't been able to access them. We will.
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I was hoping calling all in the good all in God's time. Right. Well, let me
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but but Mark and I talked last night, and and I think Anne is some has something to do with this. Don't know what yet. And, she has, I tried to call her the other day. I told you all that. She said call after three, which I did. And left me, I said, yes. And she had never has never called me back. So I don't know. Busy one, but Well, she is. There's no telling what her schedule is. But but what if she does it? Well, get get this. She has gone back to Dave and Kaye whose website she stumbled on at first, you know, has joined and raves about their website and stuff. And she's wanting to do Mark, you wanna tell that she's wanting to do an interview with Dave and Kaye on the website, and they don't particularly want Right. Want to. And so I think you're gonna do that. Is that right, Mark?
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Well, you know, it may work out where all three of us kinda talk about the the website. So we're kinda coordinating that. You know, I got my hands full. I think, I hope Dave's listening. He texted me this morning. But, you know, they're they're talking about going ahead and and doing the interview with Amity just because of my schedule and everything that I'm working on and got my hands full with, you know, taking care of my parents and everything. So it's Right. It's a lot for me to try to coordinate something like that. So And it's like But I did say, you know, if you do Go ahead. But I but I did tell Dave and Dave that, you know, if they do schedule something and they would like me just to write shotgun to field any general questions, then I'd be happy to do that. But it's I think it's gonna have to be Dave and Dave's, maybe, for the the national status, website.
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And and my position here is she's not gotten back with me, and I kinda feel like that I was back in college and chasing some female. You know? And, I'm not prone to do that necessarily. So I'm just gonna step back and let it develop however it develops and not interfere. And she'll get to me eventually, I think. K?
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Well, you know, the other thing too, the national status website points everything to you. You know, it's it's all based on your information. They got links back to the docs, matrix docs website, and so on and so forth. So it's Yeah. A lot of people having a lot of good luck on that website. I promote that. I just did a new TikTok on that. So Cool.
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Yeah.
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It's just a tremendous website, and I've said repeatedly that I had already envisioned what a website should be as far as promoting Rogers materials. And Dave and Kaye, like, put it all together without me having any, well, very little input into it after the fact. You know, I said he might do this, he might do that. But, I mean, they've nailed it. They just, right out of the gates, they nailed it, and they've improved it. It's way better. Well, I mean, it was awfully good when they first launched it. It just keeps getting better and better every day. And it's free.
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And Yeah. Yes. Totally free. And as I've tried to stress from the start here, this we're a team. We're a family and a team, and I like to think that we work together as a team because teams always accomplish more than individuals, period. Up. There's that whistler. We're not saying goodbye to anybody today, are we, Paul? They've already left. Right? No. We're not. We're we're not is a is a good whistler, you gotta admit, is a nice whistler.
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Yes. He's a good whistler. Yes.
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So, any word on Alan? Is he still MIA or what?
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You know, he's still hard at work with, filings, motions, and presentments.
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I tell you. He's still hard at work. It's no no fun. That's no fun to do.
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Anyway, Kevin, do you know what I mean? Is is he up against the FCC? Who's he battling with? No. He's up against,
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the, state governments of, Illinois, Missouri, and Colorado. So My gosh. He is not able to find any attorney that will touch the case because they, of course, don't wanna be forced into early retirement. So he has to do it all pro se. So
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Wow.
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He's doing all the legwork.
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It's not a lot of fun. No. It's why we around here, we try to keep you out of court. Now here, he's a moving party. So this is his choice. And, also, if you're a moving party, what our system dictates is if you're the moving party, you've got the burden of proof. So that's another little snafu there. Well, we wish him a lot of luck,
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Paul. Ask Mark a question real quick. Oh, yeah. Of course. Just a simple Hey, Mark, by the way, thank you. I appreciate everything you do. He wouldn't one wanna handle if they were or if one was so unfortunate to go into their little, their tennis court and have a racket. But, would they wanna handle themselves to jurors? No? I the courts just really don't look at that. Yeah. You know, it's it's what I consider. Dead when you come out. Yeah, I consider it just more patriot mythology. If you look at pro se or pro personum, Yeah. Sewage jurist, you know, the courts just look at you, you're representing yourself.
But what I would say is when you do go to court, no matter what you call yourself, do it under special appearance only without granting general jurisdiction. Nice. Every time if you had put anything in writing, you put that at the very start of your document. I, so and so, whatever your position is, well, you'll be a defendant if you're going in under special appearance, you know. You're challenging jurisdiction. If you just if you just walk if you or an attorney walk in and you get to court or file anything into the record, and you don't state that it's under special appearance, you've granted jurisdiction to the court Yep. As soon as you respond. So, the the last appeal that I helped win was in Texas, and it was over that very thing. And thankfully, the attorney had put everything under general appearance.
Excuse me, special appearance only. And that was the saving grace because, my client filed for a motion to dismiss. It was denied, and he was able to take it up on appeal and win at the Texas Fortin's on jurisdiction. So, you know, special appearance only. If you have any inkling that you're gonna challenge jurisdiction, then if you do it that way and do a motion to dismiss, then you can raise that again. Or in some cases, like Texas and not Oklahoma, but in other states, if you challenge jurisdiction, you can immediately take it upon appeal. Now And our problem, they want you to go ahead and make make that argument and go through the process.
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You had a real good idea in here one day about what we do and saying to file a, something for declaratory judgment
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in your in your area? For declaratory judgment. So instead of you waiting to get a traffic ticket or whatever legal issue is you're, you know, that you're fighting, instead of waiting to get in trouble, go to your county court. Now first, of course, do your research, get all your ducks in a row, and then go file a petition for declaratory judgment and you can serve it on the state attorney general and probably your county district attorney. And they're gonna be the defendants. It's not for money. It's just to get a a determination by a court to say, yes you're right or no you're wrong.
And if you narrowly focus it on one issue at a time, I think you could really set things up to, you know, to be in your favor down the road because now you've got, you know, potentially court precedence on it. It's almost like us filing an act affidavit and and doing a preemptive strike.
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That approach is a preemptive strike in your area through the court system Yeah. With no background.
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Yeah. Years ago, one of my mentors filed the helped a group of them filed a petition for declaratory judgment, on on what money is in the state of Oklahoma, whether it's gold and silver or fiat currency. You know? And they ultimately lost, but they they put a good challenge in.
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Nadine, you were trying to say something? I have no idea. Rick's there too. Rick, I'll get you in a second. We'll see what Nadine wants.
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You know what? In all my filings, when I, went through the process of becoming a national, I found out we didn't have a superior court. We didn't have a jury court in so long. And then I said, why? And I still don't understand it, and nobody who worked there. They told me we don't have jury trials anymore. I said, why? And they couldn't tell me. So what's going on? We don't have jury trials.
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Well, nobody's challenging them. Your state constitution that I know of, and the United States constitution says you have a right to a jury trial.
[01:04:34] Unknown:
Yep. Mhmm. So they're doing something that hasn't been challenged. It's unconstitutional. Right. Because as Brent would say, you know, the only places you have juries are the five different countries, Canada, US, Australia, New Zealand, and England. But some of them don't have jury trials either. Even more so, egregious, Nadine, is they go in, and even if you do have a jury, the judge dictates what law the jury can use in their deliberations. And you see it originally, the jury decided both the law and the facts. And now they only give them the facts, and the judge says, I give you the law. And that's another direct violation too, but it's just they've got that going on, and nobody's challenged it or been able to yet.
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Well, you know what you're talking about, Rogers, called jury nullification? Correct. And it's where they try the law and they try the, defendant. Right? And there have been some cases that were challenging that because the the judge was saying, no. You can't you can't promote jury nullification. You can't tell the jury that they also have the right to decide whether that law should be legitimate or not. Whether it should have any standing or not. Yeah. And so they and they won. The gentleman who was trying this, he was repeatedly going to court over marijuana in California.
This is like back in the, I don't know, 80s or 90s. And you have all And so he, through his study, had come across jury nullification. If you just go to any web browser, type in jury nullification, you can read all about it. It's a very fascinating legal maximum law that we have in our country that juries see this is to prevent what I would call malicious laws you know vague and and ambiguous laws that could be used against anybody and they could just say, well, you're crazy and drag you into court without any any evidence. Right?
Or put you into a institution without any evidence against you. Just accusations well the jury to prevent harm to their citizens they get to be the the final deciding factor of whether that law should be not enforced or should be enforced. And but they they they steer the juries by what Roger just said. They tell them what what they can use as the law. They never let them know that they can actually strike down the law with their decision.
[01:07:28] Unknown:
Yep. High yields. And, of course, that's the whole theory of the question. Well, yes, ma'am. The whole theory of it is, originally, that if they're trying somebody and you're on the jury, your thought is, well, they might could do that to me too next. So I'm gonna re say he's innocent. And that's that's the whole deal with it right there that they're trying to steamroll over. Who was that want to ask a question? It was a female.
[01:07:55] Unknown:
It was me, Nadine.
[01:07:57] Unknown:
Oh, and they well, you now you're all distant again. Talk right into the phone. Okay.
[01:08:06] Unknown:
I I was I was raped. It went to trial. That's the last time. I remember a jury in trial. And I think even back then, there was gang stalking come against me Wow. Because I lost it.
[01:08:26] Unknown:
Well, they've been rigging it for a long time. You know? The battle we fight is the battle you're exemplifying right there, And that's the battle between Lex Rex, the law of the king, and the common law. And that that's they hate the common law. They'll do anything to overturn it and get away from it. But they like the law of the city because it's so outcome oriented, and, they always win there for the most part. And, that's just the battle we're in. It just it it's exemplified or or evidenced over and over and over and over again.
[01:09:02] Unknown:
But it's this battle between It was a miller. Handmade law
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and and god and nature's god. K? So, that's it. We're lucky to have these advantages of being able to have a history of juries and common law. And, of course, as Brent says, the constitution is a brief of common law government.
[01:09:24] Unknown:
Hey, Roger. Yes.
[01:09:25] Unknown:
Yes. Who's there? Rick Hey, miss. I just have a minute ago. Rick, you were back there a minute ago, and I stomped on you. What what'd you want?
[01:09:36] Unknown:
If your state allows it, Mark, correct me if I'm wrong, you can make a special appearance in the form of a demurerer, d u m e d e m u r r e r, which Yeah. Among other things, it's not a magic challenge to jurisdiction.
[01:09:52] Unknown:
It's a sidestep. It's a legal sidestep maneuver maneuver, basically, if I remember correctly.
[01:09:59] Unknown:
I don't think all states have Demure. I don't know. I'd have to check on that. But, yeah, you're in generality, yes. You're right. Was that Gary?
[01:10:09] Unknown:
No. That was Rick. Greg.
[01:10:12] Unknown:
Greg.
[01:10:13] Unknown:
Rick.
[01:10:15] Unknown:
Rick. I'm sorry, Rick. Yeah. I I believe you're correct.
[01:10:20] Unknown:
Okay. I have a question.
[01:10:22] Unknown:
Okay. Yeah. Yes, ma'am.
[01:10:25] Unknown:
That petition for the judiciary, is that what what's called? What was it Just Gold or and silver or some kind of fiat kind of money. Is that is that what it's called?
[01:10:46] Unknown:
Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. They were challenging because, in Oklahoma's constitution, and I believe almost every other state's constitution, they say debt debts, like, state debts will be paid with gold and silver. Mhmm. And so they were trying to challenge that. And taxes. Yeah. Yeah. Taxes.
[01:11:05] Unknown:
This is what Yes. This is what Miracle on Main Street of of, didn't get his first book there. I I guess, it's tough TupperSaucy's first book was on that right there. That all the constitutions require gold and silver in payment of taxes. So and that's what sent the IRS on him, of course. Yes. Rick, is that you, Young?
[01:11:28] Unknown:
Yeah. In a lot of state constitutions, they do list the, appropriate instruments you can use to pay the state or the government, and Federal Reserve notes are not included in that. And if you actually pay a fine or something, in in a Federal Reserve note, you're actually committing a felony because it's not real money. Yeah. Mhmm. True.
[01:11:53] Unknown:
But we won't pay attention to that right now. We'll just accept those little things. Okay. I'm kidding, Nadine. Two or three other people were trying to say something a second ago. Yes, ma'am. You got something else? No. Okay. Couple of people were trying to say something, question or comment or something. You you now's a good time. Yeah. It was Todd. I just wanted to bring up two quick things.
[01:12:17] Unknown:
Just so my my my understanding just on two things. One is, I mean, there's no victim. There's no crime. And, obviously, we have the right Well, that's now that's not totally true. That's not totally true.
[01:12:30] Unknown:
You know, Brian was on you with that the other day. So if you trespass, is there a victim? Was there a crime? Well, there was Whoever you trespassed on, if it was a brother or sister. Yeah. There's a couple of instances where that doesn't always apply. Brent's gone over a time or two, so that's why I say that. Okay.
[01:12:50] Unknown:
Well, I more importantly, I just wanted to say that, you know and please correct me if I'm wrong because I I'm not I'm trying to not ever say anything. I'm not, you know, I I'm not sure. But when you're a national, I mean, it's such a big deal because almost like I got district court, which I don't go anywhere. They don't want me in there. I do very well in there, but I now it's like I don't even belong in there. I mean, I'll have to challenge jurisdiction. I'm already out of their jurisdiction. Am I right or wrong? Well, what crimes were you going in there for? Traffic stuff, whatnot? Well, I wouldn't go well well, I I mean, no. I wouldn't be able to as an, as a, as a national because I'm in I'm sorry. I don't have the job jurisdiction. You said you were familiar with the courts. What were you in there on before? Oh, I had I had three times. I'm I really I really I love part of my studies, a lot of it was how to handle yourself with any state member, especially pulling over as a private man, you know, traveling in my vessel. I was very honorable, but I got let go three times, no license or registration or insurance.
And I I did I just did very well because you you just gotta stay in honor. And luckily, I had probably had three good cops because if you get a ballot, it's not the place to argue. It's on the side of the road. No. That's a good place to do that. Yeah. No. No. You don't wanna argue. You know, record first, you know, record everything and be very honorable. And if he will not take your passport and he he will not get his supervisor and you he says, I will not. I need a license. And you say, okay. Well, under the threat, are you gonna arrest me if if if I don't give you the license? You know, you know you don't have one. You got your passport card and your declaration.
He said, yeah. You say, okay. Oh, hold on. No problem. Threat under threat address. I'm I'm on my way out. Sit on the ground. Put your hands behind your back. Do whatever you want for him. You know, he's gonna have to pay in the end, you know, but we don't wanna fight with these guys. You know? I wanna fight with it. It's a big day out there. Possible. And the NAC being a national relieves you from all that, technically.
[01:14:41] Unknown:
Although that might be hard to get across to them that you don't have to have a license. But, technically, it relieves you all that in actuality. And I'm glad you asked the question. It goes back to the foundation. You got some new people on here today, you say? Yes, sir.
[01:14:58] Unknown:
Foundation I said, Brad Lashell. Welcome.
[01:15:00] Unknown:
Yes. Welcome, new folks. The the the the basis of all of this is the definition of jurisdiction or, as I like to say, what gives that unelected bureaucrat over there the power to make and and and reform legislation in his however he wants to do it into a regulation and then not apply it to me and enforce it on me like they're doing on Todd on the side of the road here. Okay? That's jurisdiction, the big picture. So, actually, from the feudal system comes the answer or the definition of jurisdiction, and that is allegiance for protection, protection for allegiance.
It's a very important reciprocal formula. Whenever either one of those words is applied legally, the other is automatically invoked. So that's why if you look at the definition of national in title eight and in the original usage over there in the nationality act of 1940, definition a, a national owes total allegiance to a small s state. Well, there's the whole answer to everything we're dealing with right there. But you've gotta know some of these things that are behind it. Because you look at the word allegiance, you don't know how they're applying it. You don't know what it means. You don't know it automatically invokes a reciprocal word called protection.
And so that's this ancient formula, allegiance for protection, protection for allegiance. When you file the affidavit and become a state citizen, they are supposed to before that, your protection comes from the federal government under the fourteenth amendment. K? You've signed on to it. You agreed with it every time they ever ask you and sign something. And in their mind, that's a good enough plausible deniability that they've got a property right in you. Now we're gonna take that because you're giving allegiance to the federal government, but when you answer both those questions, citizen of The United States and resident, And then automatically invoked is protection.
And the federal government will come and protect you, Todd. And they may do it in the form of the IRS. They may do it in the form of SWAT teams or whatever, but that's protection for you, believe it or not. K? You violated one of their things. Now they're gonna come after you. All goes back to this formula, allegiance for protection, protection for allegiance. When you file the affidavit, that protection shifts to the state. Just like it says, you owe total allegiance to a small estate. Therefore, the small estate owes you total protection. Protection from what?
Well, protection from things like you're just talking about. Foreign, traffic laws only for federal citizens that they're pulling over and trying to effectively enforce or or challenge you on the side of the road with it. K? And and they're also like if, New York I think New York's adjacent to you up there. Right? Well, if one of the southern southern Connecticut wanted to invade, they would, call a militia and, give you the state protection against the invading whatever from Connecticut. Another example, hypothetical, of course.
But that's the big picture of what's happening when you file your affidavit is you're shifting that protection over to the state. Mark, tell them about that case you found, Arapaho or Chippahu or something. Mark, you still there?
[01:19:00] Unknown:
Yeah. I'm still here. I'm just trying to understand what you're asking for.
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That case you found, the Supreme Court case about protection for allegiance allegiance for protection. Oh. Remember that?
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I do.
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So, anyway, what we are, theorizing here while you're trying to come up with that, what we're theorizing here is if we could write instead of the simple cover letter to the AG with all the cc's there, of maybe doing some sort of a short legal brief as short as possible, spelling out this allegiance for protection and protection for allegiance. And the reason is Yeah. That they've never generally been exposed to this legal information in their schooling. They don't understand it. And what's happening is when you file the affidavit and put them on notice, you're bringing them into it that they owe you total protection.
They don't understand the relationship. They don't understand what's happening, but that is in the big picture is now they've gotten this isn't just some, this is a duty and an obligation. It's not just some whim that they supposedly should be able to follow on their own whether they like or know anything about this or not. They're in that position where you're giving them allegiance statutorily, and they owe you total protection. And, so it's really our teeth, by the way. It's our teeth to come back on them potentially because this is a duty they've got. They don't understand it. They generally don't recognize it.
And, if they if they overstep it, well, now they lose their personal immunity. So these are things in theory. We haven't had anybody take it to the top on that, although Joe Lustig is close. We'll see what he decides. But, anyway, that's what's going on in the big picture here, Todd. Hopefully, that'll allow you and some of the new folks to understand what we're doing here better. It all hinges on that relationship. Those two words, allegiance for protection, protection for allegiance. It's not a Roger. Choice. It is a obligation and a duty. Yes, Mirka.
[01:21:20] Unknown:
Our protection is also under natural law, which is under God.
[01:21:25] Unknown:
Because we are a creation and we in his image. But when when you move Texas too. When you move to a state citizen, you're moving over to duties, rights, capital r rights, and capital d duties from God. So, yeah, that totally applies. K? Now now we've got other questions. Oh
[01:21:43] Unknown:
oh Roger or Mark, I I have a quick question too. Okay. Do you know off the top of your heads which case it is that says being a US citizen as a political status is a rebuttable presumption.
[01:21:59] Unknown:
No. It's not being well, that is I've never seen that in print per se, but they do it with the word resident. And the where I saw that was in the Georgia official code annotated, every state statutes, and they're all uniform. All your state traffic laws are what they call uniform, which means if it was in Georgia, it's gonna be in all the other states traffic codes too. And it was a one it's in the area of residency where they say, one paragraph, you've been in the state over thirty days, yada yada yada. Then there was another one underneath that, and then it was one sentence underneath that. The term resident is a rebuttable presumption.
[01:22:44] Unknown:
It's gotta be. That's the same thing with the passport.
[01:22:48] Unknown:
Well, everything's gotta be voluntary. See, here's another one of these basic foundational concepts that you really gotta pound into your head because people have been conditioned into thinking they gotta ask permission. They don't. Everything's gotta be voluntary or else's tyranny. That's another thing people just can't get in their hands.
[01:23:08] Unknown:
Not only is it tyranny, it's involuntary servitude. And I've used that where we had some pushback from a passport office, on the East, or excuse me, on California. And they were trying to say, well, you're born in California. You've got to be a US citizen. And they weren't going to issue a passport. And so they came back and I helped them with their letter. And I said, let's add this in here. By your saying, I have no other choice but to be a US citizen, it would appear that you're violating the thirteenth amendment against involuntary servitude. Mhmm. And that's tyranny. And now the Same thing. Yeah. And this is just this is just a simple little, you know I I think it was about a page and a half letter. And within two weeks, that person had their passport.
Yeah. It was quick. And for That's a liar. Thank you.
[01:24:02] Unknown:
And for your new folks folks, Todd, listen. You I don't want you to think you're getting a drink of water out of a fire hydrant here. It seems overwhelming at first, especially if you're not familiar with any of this stuff. If you are, you'll just find some guidance, and, you'll, probably hear us to tell you to erase stuff out of your mind because if you've been studying this stuff in the patriot community, you're you've got a lot of things in your mind that aren't true. K? Yeah. And what we're trying to do hold on just a second, Larry. What I try to do consciously, there's Larry right there.
K? Is, he wants to come in with statutes and all this stuff. I take a direct opposite approach. I have striven, been striving, strived for many years. That's an interesting little verb. Strive for many years to try and simplify this because my goal my goal here is to affect change to some degree. And you can't affect change with this situation unless you've got numbers. So that's one reason I don't charge you. Because if I did charge people, there'd be a bunch of people that, well, they'd be passed around the patriot community anyway. I know of the community, so it's kind of futile to do that in the first place. But I want this as simple so you can uptake it as quickly as possible and that so we can get numbers as quickly as possible.
And I try to do everything to that end so that we can affect change with numbers because it's damned hard enough if you've got other obstacles in there, like all those statutes and stuff that Larry here likes to quote. They confuse people and make their eyes roll back in the back of their head. K? And I don't want people in that situation and going, well, that's just too much for me to learn. I can't learn that. I'd rather be a slave. So that's the reason that I kinda object to some of that stuff, Larry. But for the rest of the audience, I try to simplify this absolutely because it's simple. It's really simple. I know there's a lot of stuff you don't know.
Law and these other areas and history and this and that and the other, the big pieces, the concepts, merchant law, etcetera. But but they're not over overwhelming. They can be tackled very easily if you just take it slow. You know, the only way to eat any elephants one bite at a time. And what I hope all of us are here in the big picture to do is to help ex get us free, maybe, affect change with our powerful sword and to expose our enemy. Those are the three things I think we're trying to accomplish. Larry, go ahead.
[01:26:51] Unknown:
Yeah. This isn't my point, but I'd like to respond to what you just said about using statutes. Didn't you teach us over the years Yeah. That we should always use their statutes code to be there. Yeah. But not for the rich people.
[01:27:04] Unknown:
Yes. But we're not an experienced group of folks that's been around for twenty years. There's brand new people on this show today.
[01:27:15] Unknown:
Anyway, I was gonna point out a couple of things. So, Todd brought up challenging personal jurisdiction, and then Mark brought up, making a special appearance. And so I'd like to comment on that. Under federal rule of civil procedure 12 h, a defendant waives the defense of lack of personal jurisdiction if they fail to raise it in their first responsive pleading, which is typically either a motion to dismiss under rule 12 b or the answer itself. This means a defendant cannot raise personal jurisdiction as a defense after filing an answer without having previously asserted it.
The rule 12 b defenses are these federal rule of civil procedure 12 b lists several defenses including lack of personal jurisdiction, improper venue, and insufficient process or service of process. These defenses can be raised either through a pre answer motion, like a motion to dismiss, or in the answer itself. If a defendant fails to raise any of these defenses in their first response of pleading, whether a motion or the answer, they are deemed to have waived those defenses. This means they can no longer raise them later in the litigation. Rule 12 h specifically outlines the waiver rules.
It states that certain defenses including lack of personal jurisdiction are waived if not raised in the initial response of pleading or motion. The importance of timely assertion is crucial for defendants to carefully assess whether the court has personal jurisdiction over them and if not, to raise that defense at the earliest possible stage of the litigation. Special appearance not recognized. In federal court, the concept of a special appearance to challenge jurisdiction is not recognized. Instead, rule 12 b two allows a defendant to challenge personal jurisdiction in a motion or in the answer By failing to challenge personal jurisdiction in the initial response of pleading, a defendant effectively consents to the court's jurisdiction even if the court would not otherwise have had it. This means the defendant can be subject to the court's judgment even if they have no other connection to the forum.
That's all I got for
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you. For the new folks Totally do that, but I said it in a much simpler way. You you gotta challenge that right up front.
[01:29:51] Unknown:
Again, for the new folks, our job here is to keep you out of all that gobbledygook right there the best we can. Out of court. Okay? And Stay out of court. And and and bringing that forward, Larry, doesn't that just give an example of what I just said? All that well, you know, so, anyway, you and I have a total different approach on teaching. I can tell you that. K? So, I just try and teach people simple, and one out of 50 might end up in court and need that information. And all you're doing is throwing that information for the most part. It can be simplified with what Mark said. You gotta challenge jurisdiction upfront.
[01:30:31] Unknown:
K? Now there is a jurisdiction you can challenge at any time. There is a jurisdiction you can challenge at any time, and that is subject matter jurisdiction.
[01:30:42] Unknown:
Yes, Larry. Roger? Whoever is trying to say something right there, yes.
[01:30:50] Unknown:
Yeah. Roger, this is Christian Newby. Oh, hey, Christian. I wanna thank you for some your simplicity on this because all these statues and stuff will blow us out. I wanna thank you. Maybe later on, some of that can be used, but for us but but, I wanna appreciate you for keeping this simple and for having having your duty to to keep it that way so we can grab a hold of it. And I talked to Murray yesterday at the end of the, show, and I thank thanks to her for her input. And I thank for Danny Murphy is my mentor, too to help me with this.
So I'm on the I'm on the launching pad for getting my paperwork in as soon as I get my social security check to send certified letters. So thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Well, Christian, you're very welcome. You're a perfect example of what I'm talking about of keeping this simple. Now you've been hanging around
[01:31:51] Unknown:
for month, month and a half, six weeks, two weeks, something like that. And and it's taken all this time for him to make that decision to go ahead and file this paperwork, and I don't care about that. It's not my point. You could make the decision not to file, and it'd be alright with me. K? But, but Yeah. That's my comment on why we keep this simple. So even with people like Christian, who's about my age here, we're getting up there in the years, a lot along in the tooth, and, he gets overwhelmed with this. So that it's just, you know, to effect change, we've gotta get numbers. To get numbers, you've gotta keep it simple.
That's my logic. Can I ask you something real quick? Yes, sir. Of course.
[01:32:39] Unknown:
One more thing I wanna ask you. I always do I don't I'm not good on the computer, but can I I always heard that, handwritten is just as it could be more powerful than typed? Is that okay if I do my paperwork handwritten?
[01:32:55] Unknown:
Sure is.
[01:32:58] Unknown:
You know, there was a so much. Are you? There was a,
[01:33:02] Unknown:
a Supreme Court case. It was an important one. Brady or something like that, Mark, that was written in pencil on on paper and submitted to the Supreme Court. It was one of those real important cases.
[01:33:17] Unknown:
There's been several cases that have been done that. Usually it's by a prisoner, in jail, whether it be federal or state that made it up to the US Supreme Court. But I just want to say, that doesn't make your document more powerful because you just wrote it in hand. That's not what they're looking at. They're like, they don't get a letter, the courts don't get a letter handwritten and go, oh my gosh we really got to pay attention to this. No, it's what you put in your document. Remove this. I'm, I'm a, you know, I've been a practicing paralegal for over, what, almost twenty five years now And you know, here several years back, it kind of, I was just going through this and I realized, you know, almost every legal document that you submit to a court, you're explaining the history of events based on facts, not not judicial conclusions or legal conclusions, but just the actual facts of the case and then you put in the law that supports your position. It's called legal arguments.
And, almost every document is based on that outline. History of events are facts and the law that applies to those facts. So if that's what it's based on, not whether it's handwritten or typed.
[01:34:45] Unknown:
I will handwrite it. Christian, I wouldn't handwrite it because my handwriting is so damn terrible. They probably couldn't read it. Now, obviously, your handwriting is probably better than mine.
[01:34:55] Unknown:
But either way, mine, if if you don't have a computer or typewriter, you certainly, more than certainly, can can write it out by hand. Yep. Yeah. And to go along with
[01:35:07] Unknown:
go along with what you said, I am a prisoner right now until I do what I'm supposed to do.
[01:35:14] Unknown:
Well, you you're in the matrix. What we're gonna do is pull you out.
[01:35:18] Unknown:
Yeah. Amen?
[01:35:20] Unknown:
Thank you all very much. How are you? You're all welcome. Hey, Roger. I got that case. Okay. Wait. Case you you're asking about allegiance for protection?
[01:35:29] Unknown:
Yes.
[01:35:31] Unknown:
Okay. So it's minor versus happerset. Yes. Minor is m I n o r versus happerset, h a, p as in papa, p as in papa, e r s e, t as in tango, t as in tango. That is and I put this in the chat, and it's over on, to radioranch.tango.com. But the citation is 88 US one sixty two. That's the US Supreme Court dated 1875.
[01:36:12] Unknown:
Oh, that's way back there, isn't it? There's probably some other ones. There's probably there's sites some other ones along those same lines. I mean, now, folks, I I would I didn't dig through law libraries and law books come up with this stuff. I would never know this if John Benson, who did do all those things, wasn't my law teacher. And that's the advantage that I've got is I understand these things like that formula. I understand we're in the feudal system, which nobody else in the entire patriot community I've ever run across in thirty three years knew that or even suspicion it. That's the big missing piece. When you know it's the feudal system, all the remedies become readily available. Volunteer. How do you read this? Out of the generational contract.
All those things are just they're right there. That's why they've gone to the lengths to hide this the way they have. Because once you know it's a feudal system, it's easy to get out of. It's gotta be voluntary servitude. I gotta be able to volunteer out. Period.
[01:37:19] Unknown:
Yep. I agree. Totally. And once you wrap your head around that, you know, nobody can say that you're anything different than what you say you are. Yeah. Yeah. Right? If I say I'm a national, I'm a national. And and they can, what was it, Bob in New York, went round and round with the passport office and yeah, Bob in New York. And Bob goes, do you have my affidavit on file? Oh yeah, it's here. And he goes, I don't care what you put on my passport. Folks, you think that you need some certification from some government agency to say who you are.
You get to say who you are. Yeah. It is totally voluntary. K. And this is the most liberating part of Roger's message.
[01:38:12] Unknown:
And if you they don't recognize if they don't recognize what you say you are when you're doing it in the exact correct prescribed method, then they're open tyrants. And they will never be open tyrants because they know what that means.
[01:38:29] Unknown:
Thank you, Bob, for having that experience and sharing with us. It
[01:38:35] Unknown:
was kinda surreal. It was kinda surreal as, well, I wish the Dickens I'd have understood at the time what I was dealing with. I'd have tried it to record it, you know, but it just seemed like a everyday little deal at the time and Right. That's ten that's almost ten years ago now because I got my passport in '16.
[01:38:53] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. But I'm telling you that really hit me like a ton of bricks, you know. It's just like I've been trying to share that with people and they just are so used to being permission based. Yep. Folks, we live in a country that you don't have to ask for permission for everything that you do. Now, the federal government and state governments are trying to encroach on that. But we're supposed to be a country that can do whatever you want as long as it's not prohibited by the government. You have freedom. Other countries, I'm trying to think of a few so I'm sure somebody could chime in, there are other countries you can't do anything unless the government gives you approval.
[01:39:37] Unknown:
Right. Well, North Korea would be a prime example. Right. A good example. Well, there's there's others. There's lots of others. Oh, yeah.
[01:39:44] Unknown:
You know? Todd, if you and your folks are out there talking to folks about this and and people that are new, you're you're still overwhelmed by all this. You don't have your arms around that. Here's a very simple approach. If you find somebody that does wanna discuss it and you go, well, listen. Can we have some agreement here right at the start? Because it's important that we agree. And it is. And they go, yeah. Okay. There's only two political statuses. You're either free or you're a slave. Is that true? Well, there's no other. So, yeah, they they gotta agree.
So you're now you're on the same page. There's only two. And so you turn to them and go, well, which one are you? So if they say they're free, they've been singing Lee Greenwood. They say they're free, you go back and go, okay. Well, since you're so free, can you tell me the things that you can do without a license, permission, or there's a license, permission, or a permit? What are the things that you can do in your freedom without a license, a permit, or permission? Well, now you got them stumped. K? So, yeah, well, I guess you're not so free after all, are you? The other side, if they know they are, even if they think they're like a financial slave, which in essence they are, but not in that that you're not a slave because you're attached to debt. You're you got attached to debt because you're a slave. Okay? It's reversed.
But then the other way say, well, I I I know I'm a slave. You know? Well, would you like me to show you how you got enslaved and how you easily, inexpensively, nonconfrontationally get out of it? So they're just a well, there's only these two. Right? Right? Well, which one are you? And either answer you get, you've got an answer for them. It's very simple. The best way to present this information we found or the I think, anyway, over the years is you present the equivocation back to them. Oh, are you a citizen of The United States, or are you a citizen of The United States Of America? And and what's the difference in those two if there is one?
You're asking me if I'm a resident? Are you are you asking me that with a geographical or a political definition? So, you know, there's all kind but that's the way is to go back and reverse the process and present them with the equivocation on the difference of two words. So, anyway, just a little sidebar.
[01:42:19] Unknown:
Roger, I had an interesting opportunity here just a couple of days ago. We have a salesman that comes around every two weeks or so. Yeah. And he supplies us from a Midwestern company. He supply headquartered in Ohio. I believe he supplies us with bolts and, you know, aerosols and just all kinds of supplies at our shop. And he grew up Canadian, but he's gotten an American citizenship about twenty years ago.
[01:42:49] Unknown:
Uh-huh.
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And so he and I were the only ones in the shop, so it was a good time to chitchat and kinda go over things. And we went over, you know, resident versus resident and, jurat versus jurat and all these kind of things and, citizen versus or citizen slash national and passport application. His Canadian showed up when he started talking about the social insurance number. That's their version of the Social Security number, which conveniently spells sin. I once thought that was just funnier than the dick. Very good. But, anyway, he starts talking about the social insurance number, and I said, boy, your your Canadian ship is showing. He says, yeah. Yeah. I still haven't gotten that out of my system. Anyway, we had a good talk, and the thing is I was talking to him about, you know, his citizenship test. And he said, well, I never even studied for it, and I passed. And I said, well, that's that's impressive because I said, I know there's a lot of American citizens that were born into it that couldn't pass the test. Probably so. If it was if it was given to them. You know? Uh-huh. I mean, I know that's true because I deal with them, you know, on a daily basis. But, anyway, he's, he's, intrigued. Let's put it that way. He was gonna Okay. I said there'll be a quiz later. When you come back in two weeks, we'll we'll we'll further this conversation.
[01:44:06] Unknown:
Tell you what to research and hit him with when he comes back. Did you know that Canada instituted birthright citizenship about a month or six weeks ago?
[01:44:15] Unknown:
I was aware of it at the time. I kinda spaced it off and all the other
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furore going on in the news, but yes. That might be something interesting to bring up to him next time he comes around.
[01:44:26] Unknown:
Yeah. Yep. Anyway, just interesting. Okay. Thank you, Bob. There's opportunity everywhere.
[01:44:33] Unknown:
It sure is, folks. It's a it's a target rich environment of a bunch of slaves. There you go. So who else has gotten so good to bring forward? Some of the new folks, you wanna chime in, say hello? Let's meet you and and chat for a minute. You're welcome to if you want to. If you don't Roger. I can understand that. There's Myrka. She's far from new. Yes, ma'am.
[01:44:56] Unknown:
Just wanted to remind the new students that when we're doing this affidavit, filing it with secretary of state of DC at the court of record, and what we're doing is noticing our local and state and DC officials, public servants, so that they are notice that we are now a out of their presumption of as a US citizen. So our lawful legal notices are work are gonna be our administrative court. They're gonna be used as administrative court. So we need to learn how to type those up and use those as a reminder whenever they do trespass on us for whatever reason.
[01:45:42] Unknown:
And for the newer folks, Mirka has a Telegram channel. You wanna promote your Telegram channel, Mirka, please?
[01:45:50] Unknown:
It's national status freedom. And I posted the link in the chat. I'll post it again here soon. But just a reminder, just people need to learn how to understand that now we are under natural law, and we are using the administrative court as our, you know, protection or, you know, lawful Form.
[01:46:13] Unknown:
Notices to whoever trespasses. Right. We're using that Yeah. The administrative, section as a forum to file our paperwork and combat any of their crap, like traffic tickets and stuff like that.
[01:46:27] Unknown:
So another way that we do pass on or they try to impose on you?
[01:46:31] Unknown:
Another way that we do our dead level best to try and keep you out of the court system. Everybody in the patriot community, what about court? This court that we we want you out of there. K?
[01:46:42] Unknown:
And, hopefully, you won't get anywhere. Now it's up to us to learn now it's up to us to learn the information, learn how to type these up because we are our own experts, and we are learning how to do that ourselves and represent ourselves and protect our families. Yeah. So it's important to learn how to do that.
[01:47:01] Unknown:
So, I've got about another, ten minutes or so. Does anybody have anything they hadn't been able to bring up? Have a question right now. There's Nadine again. Yes, sweetie?
[01:47:11] Unknown:
Yes, sir. I'm I had been challenged over my many years being forced to go to a mental hospital for, quote, unquote, treatment. And it's just like being a prisoner in jail Yes.
[01:47:36] Unknown:
On many This is, this is for the audience. This is your daughter doing this to you.
[01:47:42] Unknown:
Not just my daughter. I found out a lot of my family members are dealing in witchcraft. They're against me somehow for, because they are jealous and indones?
[01:47:57] Unknown:
There's no telling what the motives might be. No. I I had no idea
[01:48:03] Unknown:
that a lot of my family members are dealing in witchcraft. And, they persuaded her somehow. Sound I mean, persuaded my daughter to I mean, she was listening to the main, witch of the witch, I call her witch of the West. Which is which of the West. That's what I wanna call it. But anyhoo, the police would show up. And the last time they showed up, I had my document with me. I had already gone through placing it in different,
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Affinity. State.
[01:48:52] Unknown:
Yeah. The Department of State of the United States of America and all down through my local government. But this is what I want to say. The last time I went in there, there were many elderly people, women and men, in my same situation. I'm not saying that my family's trying to get rich off of what I own, but I was very vulnerable. At any time, I'm expecting that some police or what do you call it? The people with the guns and Sheriffs. You will break down my door. Yeah. Sheriff. Whatever. Well, they're not gonna come break sheriff.
[01:49:45] Unknown:
I doubt they're gonna come kick your I don't know what they're gonna do. They might they might know. Well, just keep copies of your documents handy should they do that. Let's hope that they don't.
[01:49:56] Unknown:
I did. Okay. I I don't wanna go to court. I didn't wanna go to court because they handcuffed me, put it in the back of a a police car. And I wanna tell y'all, if you don't know, that is very uncomfortable.
[01:50:10] Unknown:
It's humiliating.
[01:50:11] Unknown:
With your hands.
[01:50:13] Unknown:
Oh, yeah. It's terribly uncomfortable. They handcuffed you, Nadine?
[01:50:18] Unknown:
Yes. They did. And, my daughter was emboldened by it. Every time she gets a judge to sign off on this order for me to go to the mental hospital. And I understand this happened so much
[01:50:34] Unknown:
that if it happens again, they're gonna put me in there for life. Well, no. I thought you you showed them that paper. I don't think they can enforce that on you. I don't know for sure. I can't say for sure. But it's a bad situation that you just stand up there and tell them that they're you're in national, and she's she's the one that's crazy.
[01:50:55] Unknown:
Yeah. She's the one that needs the mental health.
[01:50:58] Unknown:
I am not crazy. That's so sad. So sad, sweetie. Well, listen. We're glad you found us again, and, you come join us as often as you'd like. And, should any of those things happen, we'll certainly try and come to your aid. Okay?
[01:51:13] Unknown:
Okay. I just need that note that I have to have in case I am incarcerated. There somebody maybe it was Mark. I don't know who it was. I asked Merica. I I don't know. But What kind of a note? What kind of a note are you referring to, Nadine? To get out of jail?
[01:51:35] Unknown:
To get out of Well, it's a copy of your affidavit. It's not a note. It's a copy of your affidavit that you send in to the secretary of state. If you don't have a copy, go redo it. Pardon me?
[01:51:49] Unknown:
It's Nadine, I sent you a message on Telegram.
[01:51:54] Unknown:
Okay. Thank you. Okay. Alright. Alright.
[01:51:58] Unknown:
So, well, we're with you. Glad you connected with us, Nadine, and we'll try and keep you out of the swamp if they try and put you in there. What a sad situation. Oh, we hear some really we hear some horror stories on here from folks occasionally.
[01:52:13] Unknown:
It's, quite There were a lot of people my age. I'm sure it's because I was in, you know, the, age bracket and whatever, group I was supposed to be in. Uh-huh. They they're one lady, her daughter had hundreds of thousands of dollars, and we're trying to put her
[01:52:40] Unknown:
In there to get the money. Place of I'm I'm sure that's not an unusual occurrence. K? Yeah. Sad to say. Yes.
[01:52:51] Unknown:
It's real. Okay. Well Shocking. I can't believe my my family would choose money over my purse.
[01:53:01] Unknown:
I, you know, I just had a half brother rip me off of the entire estate from my my father. Not his father. He was somebody else's son. My father adopted Mhmm. Built the, the what he did throughout his life with frugal savings and everything else. And this kid that's not even of his blood that he took into the family and adopted steals everything, every penny. Even the stuff in the house that was mine that they sold in the estate sale, he even stole that. So believe me, I understand the the love of money is the root of all evil, boys. The root of all evil.
Very true. So, live simply and get out of debt. Get out of debt is the big thing for folks if you can.
[01:53:51] Unknown:
Just tell them you put a trust together and everything is going to a church. They'll probably leave you alone if they don't think they're getting any money from you. That'd be very, very good suggestion, Martin.
[01:54:02] Unknown:
Okay. Anybody else got something here as we, close out the week? You probably should have
[01:54:07] Unknown:
I think you probably should have a trust set up anyway.
[01:54:11] Unknown:
I do. I do. Okay. Good. Good. Well, I don't all my bank accounts has trust.
[01:54:20] Unknown:
Okay.
[01:54:21] Unknown:
I have a will, but it's you know, I'm I'm gonna change things. Yeah. Sure. Sure.
[01:54:27] Unknown:
Mhmm. Okay. But if it if it's really money if it's money driven for their harassment of you, then if if they're under the impression that you rewrote your will and and you're you modified your trust and they're not getting a dime, I suspect they probably leave you alone.
[01:54:46] Unknown:
Yeah. Okay. I appreciate that. That's important to me. Just a thought. Yeah. And it'd be easy.
[01:54:53] Unknown:
Also, while you're talking, I was doing a little research on what would an individual have to prove in Mississippi, under Mississippi law, the elements of proving that you're not crazy.
[01:55:06] Unknown:
And
[01:55:07] Unknown:
there's some pretty good steps in there that you could take in advance and not get caught flat footed again. And if you do that, if you if you get a expert, what do I want to call them, psychologist, if you will, if you get somebody to say, no, you're not crazy, then you could turn around and file for a restraining order against your family members for making false claims against you.
[01:55:37] Unknown:
Mark, did you ever hear that George Jordan? George Jordan. I was gonna say that, Roger. George Jordan did that. Did you hear that? You didn't? He he No. Go real quick. When he was going to court, he was called crazy so many times by the prosecutor. And so he went to a psychiatrist and got a went through an exam and got a certificate of sanity.
[01:56:00] Unknown:
And the next time he said that in court, he pulled it out and go, your honor, I'll have you know I'm the only certified sane person in the courtroom.
[01:56:13] Unknown:
Nuh. Raga?
[01:56:14] Unknown:
Hi. Yeah. There's Samuel. Hi, Samuel.
[01:56:17] Unknown:
Hi. Yeah. I was gonna recommend that to Nadine. When I was in court and had the audacity to represent myself and not have an attorney, they accuse me of being crazy. And they Wow. And they and they put a a county lowlife to interview me that was in, like, social services or something. So I went out and hired an hour's worth of time of the the the best PhD in the community that I could find in psychology and came for an hour. And about forty five minutes, he says, he he stopped the interview, and he says, you're not crazy. You're pissed off. There you go.
[01:56:59] Unknown:
That's funny.
[01:57:00] Unknown:
There you go. And that was the end of it. You know? I I I represented oh, even the mental health guy for the county, he, he had to say, no. He's he's okay.
[01:57:12] Unknown:
Wow. There you go. See, that's a preemptive. That's preemptively stopping them before they ever get past, you know, calling you crazy. So Yeah.
[01:57:24] Unknown:
Well so, anyway, there we go. Nadine, welcome back, sweetie. We'll get you through, hopefully, help you if you get in any trials and travails. You got a a brain trust here that can probably come up with some ideas, so we're glad to see you back.
[01:57:38] Unknown:
For the new people I belong.
[01:57:41] Unknown:
I belong here.
[01:57:42] Unknown:
Yes. You've arrived. Todd, for your new folks, welcome. First time, and, don't don't get drinking water out of a fire hydrant. It's all very simple. It's quite logical. There our enemies are very, very deceptive. And, really, I've said this before if this is your first time. I've never been able to find in history any time anyone else got these bastards, this power click in a corner. And we've got them in a corner. They're in Checkmate. They either admit it and and don't mess with us, and they don't want it brought into the spotlight or or else they, take off their mask and be open tyrant, so I'll never do that.
So anyway, that here's a question I had. All of a sudden, they're getting rid of the talking about getting rid of the IRS. Right? Could that be attributable in any percentage to our efforts of the whole thing getting exposed and people pulling themselves out of this? I believe so. Well, just the thought I had. I can't say one way or the other. Anyway, we're gonna, lay our bodies down for the Saturday edition and have a abbreviated weekend. And I hope you're Thank you so much, Roger. Yeah, Todd. Well, you're welcome, man. I mean, I enjoy this. Have you been able to tell?
[01:59:03] Unknown:
Absolutely. Every day.
[01:59:06] Unknown:
Hey, Roger. Yeah. Well, there's Dave again. Yes, sir?
[01:59:10] Unknown:
Yeah. You know what they're gonna do when they when they get rid of the the, IRS, they're gonna they're gonna just have a value tax, and they're gonna call it a a sales tax, s a y l e s.
[01:59:23] Unknown:
Well, no. What what what's happening is we're transitioning back to this, tariff economy where the tax is not burdened on the people. It's on the trade. And it's it's collected and paid by other countries wanting to trade with us. And so we're moving back into that format. I totally endorse it. I mean, it just hit me last night thinking about it. Could could the amount of these people pulling themselves out of the IRS at even this early stage and probably increasingly, and them not having the ability to stop it, could that even possibly figure in their decision to get rid of it? And I doubt I'm not saying that it is. I'm just speculating.
K?
[02:00:09] Unknown:
So you can noodle on it. Well, I think that's spur on the economy.
[02:00:13] Unknown:
Do do what, Mark? Yeah.
[02:00:15] Unknown:
Oh, they're trying to spur on the economy. You know, this this big inflation bump that we had during the Biden administration. People are still reeling from that. Oh, you still got it too. Really haven't come back down. No. You still got it. And and so I think the way they can combat that is if they can cut out federal taxes, then people would have an instant boost in their paychecks, and it would helps, you know, help the economy continue down the road. Yes.
[02:00:45] Unknown:
Well, it helped people buy if they want imported goods. The imported goods are gonna carry a higher price tag because of the tariff. So that one thing would allow them to buy those kind of goods. And Trump's obviously trying to structure everything internally where, all those factories will move to The US so they don't have to pay the tariff. I wish him a lot of luck. It may be beyond saving. We'll see. K? Okay. Yeah. Roger? Yeah. Heck of a time. Yeah. Is that Robbie right there? May I say one more thing?
[02:01:19] Unknown:
Hold it. Would do I have two different girls, or is that Nadine that Nadine wants to say one more thing. I have a comment. I'll be came in there.
[02:01:30] Unknown:
Nadine? Yes. There are a lot of people dying from the COVID boxes, and they're blaming it on something else. Yeah. Well, that's true. And it's also witchcraft. You know, the devil and his and his minions are real. Well, they are. And no doubt about it. Yeah. So people are dying.
[02:01:53] Unknown:
And people are taking over their homes. These weird cancers and fast growing cancers are coming back too.
[02:02:03] Unknown:
K. So,
[02:02:04] Unknown:
I wanted to say thank you. Okay, sweetie. We'll see you soon. Yes, sir. Yes.
[02:02:09] Unknown:
I just wanted to say in addition to what you're doing, many years ago I mean, many years ago, I heard that at least 70,000,000 people have stopped paying taxes.
[02:02:20] Unknown:
Yeah. A lot of people stop paying them during COVID too.
[02:02:25] Unknown:
Yeah.
[02:02:26] Unknown:
So that's true. People have been backing out of the tax movement or just not filing. The they'll they'll catch up with some of those occasionally, make examples out of them. Who who else, Paul? You've got something to say?
[02:02:40] Unknown:
Yeah. I don't see the tariffs as a short term solution. I see it as a long term short term. I'd see it as a long term solution because, it will, help American made goods, be competitive in the marketplace. So people, once those goods are available, will be able to buy locally instead of importing from China and whatever. In the meanwhile, though, IRS taxes go away, but everything you buy that is imported because we don't manufacture it here yet, that will be you will be paying those tariffs because the tariff will be passed on to you as the end consumer.
The government's not gonna pay it. If they make a million dollars in tariffs on Hondas, they're not gonna give you a book on tariff that you paid as part of or that you would pay as part of a color TV. They're not gonna do that.
[02:03:43] Unknown:
No. But what may happen and is happening is the manufacturer will take a cut in their profits so that the price doesn't escalate out of the marketplace. And that is happening. K? So, anyway, Paul, listen. I've got, I've got my portable recharged. I found a piece of furniture I think I can put it on top of to pull this off. I've still got to go and get a mouse and a yellow wire to connect the computer to the modem, or I might have to have a wire somewhere. And I don't think I've got another one. So and I'm gonna do that. I'm gonna try to get that done this afternoon. Okay? Okay. So, just f FYI, I'm pretty close to getting ready to see if we can get this thing working because it's driving me nuts that I that it hasn't for a long time. Alright. K? I'll Let's see. Where would you
[02:04:38] Unknown:
drive. Where would you be
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the wire from? From, like, a computer store or something? Yeah. Yeah. Come a store's got a little computer section.
[02:04:49] Unknown:
Okay. What you want is you want a standard Ethernet cable. Yes. Not a not a crossover Ethernet cable. You want a standard
[02:05:01] Unknown:
Ethernet. Standard Ethernet. Okay. Yeah. I'll try and remember to say that in Spanish. Okay. Okay? So, not a crossover, but a standard cable. Mark, did you have something to say?
[02:05:16] Unknown:
Well, yeah. There was a pirate walked into the bar, and he had a steering wheel sticking out of the top of his pants. And he asked for a beer, and the bartender brought me a beer and said, hey. I I couldn't help but notice you got a steering wheel sticking out of your pants. He goes, argh. It's driving me nuts. Now you've been off in the pirate joke site. Well, you said Okay. You said it was driving you nuts. You said it's driving you nuts, and I was thinking that wasn't a far drive.
[02:05:44] Unknown:
Okay. No. No. Not too. It ruptured. And, actually, and the shopping center is very is right is almost a nine iron from here. So Okay. That's good.
[02:05:56] Unknown:
Did did you catch, Paul English live yet?
[02:05:59] Unknown:
I have not had a chance to yet. No. Okay.
[02:06:02] Unknown:
Yeah. So it's a hilarious program. We've talked about a bunch of good stuff.
[02:06:07] Unknown:
Alright. I'll try and listen to it here. Anybody else got anything for me? Wanna say welcome to the new folks. I hope you come back around. We didn't offend you or anything.
[02:06:16] Unknown:
And, we'll be
[02:06:18] Unknown:
a great joke. It's driving you nuts. No pun intended. Yeah. How about this? You got any blonde jokes? How about some blonde jokes out there? No. I don't have any. Roger?
[02:06:30] Unknown:
Yes.
[02:06:31] Unknown:
I I got a good blind joke. This is Christian.
[02:06:35] Unknown:
Yes, Christian.
[02:06:37] Unknown:
Hey. I wanna I wanna just say one thing that you said, more more powerful in your, today's message was pray for Trump. And, you know, we've got the power in our tongue, in our mouth, and in the word of God to pray for Trump and his administration and and to give them power because we have the the power of binding and loosening angels to us. We've got the power in our in our mouth. He said even greater things, he told his disciples, even greater things will you do than I did if you believe. So I just wanted to put that out because keep praying.
[02:07:24] Unknown:
I don't care if you for rubia. I don't I don't care if you like them or not. They're about the best best hope we got. So
[02:07:31] Unknown:
swallow whatever. Your bible someone that really knows your bible told me that people don't know how to read their Bible. That statement you just gave there, he was talking to his disciples. Now whether that becomes true for each of us, that's another thing. And I also wanna say, in no way did I tell you or anyone that writing your affidavit by hand would be said it, you know, make it prominent and make it, you know, special. I just did it. I told you because I don't have a printer.
[02:08:01] Unknown:
Oh, there you go. So let's get those two things straight. You better make damn sure your handwriting's illegible.
[02:08:08] Unknown:
Okay. Who else has something for me? Make really We're in my weekend. Make really big letters too.
[02:08:14] Unknown:
Yes. You can. So I'm in my weekend now. I get real selfish. So does anybody else have anything for me? Nope. Thank you, Royer. And the best hope that we got is Jesus Christ. He's not drunk. That's right. Jesus Christ. That's our best hope. Alright. Yes, sir. Don't I'm angry. Agree with you. Okay, folks. Well, listen. Have a good abbreviated weekend. Thanks for being with us today. Hope you got something out of it, and, we will see you, if not Monday, at, our designated time, then, we'll hopefully see you soon. Todd, thanks for bringing us a new new bunch of a new bunch of folks.
We'll,
[02:08:54] Unknown:
Have a great weekend, everybody. Thank you so much, Roger. And I think there's a it's not just Todd, but there's a lot of people bringing in new folks. This is gonna be big. This is big. We'll do a good thing right now. He's got the potential to change the world. That's why I've been so dogged at it for so many years.
[02:09:10] Unknown:
And, and since I don't have any children, this is kind of my legacy, and you folks are like my children. Okay? So it's very, very important to me personally. So, anyway, we will see you, as I said, Monday, same time, same place, or sometime soon, hopefully. So have a great weekend, and love each and every one of you. Ciao.
[02:09:33] Unknown:
Bless you, Roger.
[02:09:36] Unknown:
Thank you. Hey, Erica. No. I was talking to somebody. Okay. You, you know, Marco, are there anybody else? Has anybody, tried to submit an affidavit to Treasury with any bills trying to restore, you know, kind of accepting the bill, but restoring as a national, restoring the currency in gold and silver.
[02:10:09] Unknown:
I think that's a great idea. We need to go back to the gold box. You know, go thread it within the bill of the I mean, the dollar bill or whatever.
[02:10:26] Unknown:
Yeah. A lot of the Moors have done really interesting stuff with, like, silver bonds and things like that. And, that was a, you know, a people group, a nation, if you will. And I didn't think about coupling the affidavit, you know, to Treasury, to the legal department, sending that affidavit in with receipts or whatever and asking to, you know, reduce the public debt as a national. It's our responsibility, you know, to restore God's treasury. God's, you know, God's
[02:11:05] Unknown:
money came from the land just like our bodies came from. Somebody even talked about getting a loyal title on your body. So, anyway, just some thoughts.
[02:11:15] Unknown:
Mirka said you should reach out to her on Telegram.
[02:11:18] Unknown:
She's off. Okay. Okay. Oh, okay. Yeah. That might be a good, discussion point. I'm on a couple other Telegram groups that discussed the same same things about, you know, recharging the reversionary interest to the treasury. Yeah. There's whenever a debt note is traded in the public for goods or whatever, it's, you know, it's obviously causing other effects. And I guess besides, you know, using using, postal money orders, which, you know, we talked about that the other day. So I'm not sure that they're it's hard to tell whether it really backed my goal or whatever. But, this guy who would be responsible, you know, the IMF slash IRS or whatever it's gonna be rolled up into now, would be responsible for the original kingdom of God, the original trust, and, you know, it'd be our responsibility to hold them accountable.
[02:12:25] Unknown:
Yeah. So it looks like the US post office is its own entity. It, from what I heard, you know, who knows? But the thing I read was, that they're not treasury, or are they, federal reserve? They're basically their own deal. So
[02:12:45] Unknown:
Probably owned.
[02:12:49] Unknown:
Owned as their own entity and, but I guess in 1970, they went from the being under the legislative under and they went into the executive branch, which, you know, I don't know why we think it's good putting more and more power in that executive branch, but, I guess congress just doesn't wanna really work. They'd rather just sit there and do nothing.
[02:13:18] Unknown:
They're paid. Yeah.
[02:13:22] Unknown:
There was a there's times in history, I think, mostly during the depression, where the post office did actually function as a bank where you could could actually have a savings there, I think, of, like, up to $2,000, and you could basically pay bills through them, etcetera. So they have that banking quasi banking capacity. So
[02:13:50] Unknown:
well, in the Bible, the earthly treasury was established. What was the first reference? I wonder, I know, we had the golden calf and all that. But you have the original trust, you know, the garden and the earth is given that word have dominion. Because they say that stamps are even backed by gold, and that's why you should put a stamp at the end of documents that you you sign across the stamp. It kind of binds it in gold. And think about post office, it was basically the military post. Right? So if it's if the military by conquest or by treaty or whatever, is the original. That is kind of an executive power.
So it makes sense that that the, you know, the you know, we were talking about the other day that the post office being part of that executive. I think that's what we're discussing about that they were determining what's gonna be gold and what's not. And it's pretty much not been voted on, right, by congress. I mean, the monetary policy. I think it's always been an executive deal that it was Lincoln's greenbacks or even reconstruction because, say, it was not it was a military operation. It wasn't wasn't a legislative operation.
[02:15:15] Unknown:
Well, that's pretty much how Stamper feels about the whole thing is, you know, that that clause in the fourteenth amendment about rebellion is that's you as a citizen, and that martial law has been or rule has been in place since since Lincoln. And, that's why you you go into these courts. You need to ask them the nature and the cause because there is a Denny that they can you know, it's it's your agreement. That's the nature and the cause. But they're basically functioning as a military tribunal. And if you don't ask them to prove where the the state gave them the power to do what they're doing, which it hasn't, they're just gonna summarily go along and extract money from you and maybe even your freedom to move.
[02:16:22] Unknown:
That's what say, I don't I don't understand. You know, they always ask you, do you understand this, mister Mason, or whatever? No. I do not understand. Look, big left and right. No. I do not understand. Say it three times. Bye bye. You gotta go. They have no jurisdiction.
[02:16:40] Unknown:
And the stamper content said if 10% of the people would just do that, ask them about the nature and the cause, that would put a fork in them.
[02:16:50] Unknown:
And it's really the prosecutor you're talking to. You have proof of claims. Proof of claims that prosecute a lot of times we talk to the judge, but the judge is not we're not to ask that question. We have to make the prosecutor personally liable, and they need to have proof of claim.
[02:17:07] Unknown:
Yeah. You definitely need to point it at the prosecutor because the judge is supposed to be impartial about the whole thing. He's just there to make make it peaceful enough between you and that prosecution for, and decide what what is allowable and not, you know. He's not supposed to take a side. And Stamper's got that simple statement that this is it. He says, I simply do not understand the nature and cause of the act accusation with regard to the elements of personal jurisdiction, venue, and the nature of the action until the prosecution properly alleges them.
I'm therefore unable to plead to the charge until I've had an opportunity to raise a meaningful defense against these elements. I cannot rebut an unstated presumption. That's pretty much it. Now they've gotta show, you know, well, what law is this? You know, is this contract? Is this personal injury? You know, the facts? You know? What's the cause? You know? I mean, where's the liability and the facts leading to that? I mean, if they can't lay that out for you, which really they can't, then that should be the end of it. But, of course, her it would best the way I still look at it is not be in that court and do this through an abatement process instead.
But he says, the courts operate on silent judicial notice of presumption all the time. They presume you're a citizen. They presume you're there as that artificial thing that they can that they have some ownership in to, extract whatever they want from you. That's their presumption. As nationals, we should be trying to clarify that as best we can. Coming in peace, I'm no longer that droid you're looking for.
[02:19:30] Unknown:
That's right. And they and the presumption of, you know, incompetence or, you know, is really because they're looking at you as a minor. Somebody did a petition for removal of knowledge because, basically, until that that person is claimed, if you will, it will be treated as that. That name will be treated as, you know, the state's property because there's no there's no guardian. One guy did obey a judge's order to the psychiatrist, and the psychiatrist slid a piece of paper across to him and said, I need you to sign this release or whatever. The guy looked at it, and he he said he had paid the judge's order to go to the appointment, and then he slid it back and said, so it's like, I'd be I'd be crazy to sign this. I walked out.
So he wasn't under he wasn't in Kentucky.
[02:20:36] Unknown:
It's funny. I'm hearing half halfway decent news about that meeting in in Alaska from the guys I listen to. I think that they're, you know, I think there's this guy called Alex Treanor, and he, he's always been sort of optimistic about Trump. He thinks the guy is really trying to against all odds because the that's this whole country wants to, along with England, pummel Russia. But he feels that Trump is is trying to the best of his ability to try to get something going with Russia that's a bit more, productive than trying to steal everything from him with war.
[02:21:29] Unknown:
You know, Samuel, I see in a headline today that they may be discussing letting Russia occupy the Ukraine like Israel is occupying Palestine, and that is not good.
[02:21:47] Unknown:
Well Well, it's all up it's it's all up to the Jews, Lisa. It's all up to them, not up to Trump or Putin.
[02:21:54] Unknown:
What do you mean by occupy? I mean, a lot of these countries did have a rest of referendum when they were being attacked by these Oblasts that were attacked by the Ukrainians, the the Russian speaking ones, and they decided to become part of Russia. So I don't know if it's fair to say they're occupied anymore.
[02:22:15] Unknown:
I know. I I don't know. It was just a headline I seen. And based on the West Bank, though, and Gaza, you know, and things that are going on.
[02:22:25] Unknown:
Yeah. If you compare it to the West Bank and Gaza, I mean, my god. I mean, we have absolutely no excuse for any of that whatsoever. Right? It's so clear. But
[02:22:38] Unknown:
The difference is it would be a good outcome, I think, if Russia took over Ukraine, good for everyone, whereas it's a horrible thing for Israel to take over Gaza.
[02:22:52] Unknown:
Yeah. I don't think Russia wants to take over Ukraine. I think they're I think this negotiation, obviously, there wasn't gonna be a ceasefire. But what what Putin wants is an overall large, agreement about what the problem here is. I mean, you're blowing up our pipelines. You're building bio labs in the country on our border.
[02:23:25] Unknown:
That's what I was gonna ask, Samuel. Do you have any idea where the bio labs are located in Ukraine? Because I really don't have any idea.
[02:23:37] Unknown:
Well, there's so many of them. I I would assume everywhere.
[02:23:41] Unknown:
There were, like, 30 of them, I think. Yeah. That's what I had heard too. So, you know, if Russia's gonna be allowed to go in there to clean up some of I'm gonna call it the West slime that has been put in there, that would be a good thing.
[02:23:58] Unknown:
Yeah. And I I really think, the power that's behind this, just like getting us into World War one and World War two, is Britain. They've never wanted Russia to ever be able to be part of the European community. It didn't want Germany and Russia ever to get together. So The Jewish empire?
[02:24:27] Unknown:
It's just
[02:24:29] Unknown:
it's it's just such a a sad thing. I mean, we could Russia would be our natural ally. They were in the past many times.
[02:24:38] Unknown:
Well, that's what Britain has always tried to, in my opinion, one of their biggest thing to keep The US and Russia, along with Germany and Russia. They never want Germany and Russia to unite in Europe.
[02:24:52] Unknown:
The the the main reason It is before the pandemic. Every country was together. And the main reason where
[02:24:59] Unknown:
does your voice come from, Bory? It freaks me out. Where does it come from?
[02:25:06] Unknown:
You know, the main reason
[02:25:08] Unknown:
been here for the longest.
[02:25:11] Unknown:
The main reason Russia sold Alaska to United States is to keep England off of it.
[02:25:18] Unknown:
Samuel, after the the, they sold the land, one of the robber barons wanted to put a railroad to Russia for trade. And the British, I think, got the Japanese to start messing up or having the Chinese go, no. No. No. This is not good for us either. So I think there's something, afoot or something true some truth that you said, and,
[02:25:50] Unknown:
we'll see if a railroad goes across the Bering Strait. You know? Well well, Putin proposed that the last time, I think, around 2014 that and they would pay for two thirds of it. A great deal for us except the the political world, the Brits and, you know, the Europeans in general don't mostly it's Britain.
[02:26:17] Unknown:
Don't they have to keep don't they have to keep these wars going to keep their economies afloat? I mean, isn't that what's what it's at least partially about aside from the power, the powers that be?
[02:26:32] Unknown:
It it keeps It's not right on the coast of a war.
[02:26:38] Unknown:
If anything the government do benefit the people ever
[02:26:42] Unknown:
No. Cannon fodder.
[02:26:45] Unknown:
Because I ever see something the government do that benefit the regular people ever. I don't understand how people got hope in that system still. It's crazy to believe that. It's hope for me. That's it.
[02:27:04] Unknown:
Putin said the next meeting will be in Russia. That'd be great. Russia but I tell you what, you talk about Trump taking some heat, if he goes to Russia, Holy mackerel.
[02:27:17] Unknown:
Sam Sammy, if you Sammy, if you see Trump's expression on the press conference, you could see his face. He was not too happy in the agreement. And he said clearly, okay. Let's see what Ukraine and the I'm gonna explain everything to them and see what they want to do. He came out there not getting what he wanted.
[02:27:45] Unknown:
You He wanted to cease fire, and and he he was stupid to even think if if that was a a possibility. That's the problem. I mean, Raymond w the governor was interviewed by this young guy saying about how many Russians are dying, and and and McGovern, who's usually a very nice man, he says, hey. If you wanna talk bullshit, I can just basically leave right now. He says, if we go into that meeting with that kind of stupid attitude, nothing's coming out of it. Russia has completely had the upper hand, and they move slow. He said they don't care how fast they move. It's not about land. They're gonna grind that Ukrainian army up into mincemeat. That's all they want. They wanna eliminate it.
Taking land is a secondary thing. You know?
[02:28:36] Unknown:
Trump looks mad because his Jew handler didn't get what he wanted.
[02:28:42] Unknown:
Amen.
[02:28:45] Unknown:
But even even look, my man, who's more, like, frustrated? You can Glad to hear your voice.
[02:28:51] Unknown:
They always get what they want. Always.
[02:28:54] Unknown:
Well, that's true too.
[02:28:57] Unknown:
It doesn't matter what happened. Deal. Russia wants the problems behind this. NATO and The United States to stop attacking it. As long as pipelines shelling its people, you know, things that we would start a war over in a heartbeat, Russia can't even do.
[02:29:21] Unknown:
Look. As long as Zelensky is in there, it ain't nothing but a clown show, folks. Just get your popcorn and watch the show. How the hell Shane,
[02:29:32] Unknown:
Shane, Shane, he has a drum.
[02:29:34] Unknown:
Alright, Bory. I'm with you.
[02:29:37] Unknown:
Come on. Come on. Zelensky?
[02:29:40] Unknown:
Zelensky? Really?
[02:29:42] Unknown:
But remember, Zelensky Zelensky is not Ukrainian. He's a Jewish. So he's not even he's not even representing the Ukrainian people.
[02:29:55] Unknown:
And I understand that the prime minister of, Israel comes from Britain.
[02:30:04] Unknown:
He comes from The United States. He was a United States citizen. He born here. Oh. The CIA put him there in that position.
[02:30:16] Unknown:
He grew up in Philly.
[02:30:18] Unknown:
Yeah. He grew up here in The United States.
[02:30:21] Unknown:
And that is not his real name.
[02:30:25] Unknown:
No.
[02:30:27] Unknown:
And he's a Jew because of his mother, not his father.
[02:30:31] Unknown:
He's a Jew because he say he's a Jew. None of these people are Jews. They just lying there when they open their mouth, it's just lies and lies.
[02:30:44] Unknown:
They're all
[02:30:47] Unknown:
they're all, related.
[02:30:50] Unknown:
Nothing that they say the truth.
[02:30:53] Unknown:
Because of the adoption of the shaytah. We're all merchants. We're all, traveling merchants because of the adoption of the shaytah by,
[02:31:04] Unknown:
by England. That's right. I don't understand what black people say. Oh, we used to be slaves. No. We still slave. We not used to you don't used to be slave. Everybody's slaves.
[02:31:16] Unknown:
Yeah. I tried to tell my family, and they dismissed me. They won't hear nothing I said.
[02:31:27] Unknown:
That's alright. The conditioning is deep.
[02:31:30] Unknown:
Yep. Yeah.
[02:31:32] Unknown:
Nadine, that's most important. Slavery.
[02:31:36] Unknown:
Sorry, Gregory. But, Nadine, that is how most of our families are. That's why we all are so appreciative of each other here.
[02:31:46] Unknown:
Amen, Lisa. Do y'all cry like I cry? Do you cry like I cry and have sleepless nights like I do?
[02:31:56] Unknown:
I I I'm getting ready to take a nap right now, and I'm putting cucumbers on my eyes. I I think I have permanently altered the appearance of my eyes from crying so much lately.
[02:32:10] Unknown:
Lisa, many prayers to you, and much love.
[02:32:14] Unknown:
Lisa, god bless you.
[02:32:18] Unknown:
Yeah. Lisa, sometimes I scream, and I wanna get out from this nightmare, but I can't wake up from it.
[02:32:26] Unknown:
Mhmm. I agree. Well, bye. I'll see you tomorrow. Bye, Nadine.
[02:32:35] Unknown:
Bye. God bless you, honey. Mhmm.
[02:32:38] Unknown:
Goodbye, Nadine. Be blessed.
[02:32:43] Unknown:
Samuel.
[02:32:45] Unknown:
Samuel.
[02:32:50] Unknown:
Yeah?
[02:32:52] Unknown:
Why doesn't Britain want Russia to be part of Europe?
[02:32:59] Unknown:
Same reason they didn't want Germany. They don't like the competition.
[02:33:04] Unknown:
They've been in a pissing contest for a couple of hundred or more years.
[02:33:11] Unknown:
I would say three or four hundred years. That's why they always hit Turkey against them.
[02:33:17] Unknown:
They don't want what kind of competition?
[02:33:21] Unknown:
Any environment and economic, etcetera.
[02:33:29] Unknown:
He broke up, Jesse. Mostly what? And they are older civil
[02:33:33] Unknown:
and they are older civilization, Russian compared to, in many ways, The UK.
[02:33:39] Unknown:
Okay. Thank you.
[02:33:42] Unknown:
If Ukraine is, slotted to be the second Jewish homeland is what we're hearing, wouldn't it be the best case scenario for Russia to take it over? I don't know. I I I don't get the sense that Putin is a Zionist. The help me out here.
[02:34:04] Unknown:
He went to the Russian people and you and Ukraine
[02:34:08] Unknown:
is not a second, country to become Jewish. It's been the Aka Nazis. It's been there since the seventh, eighth century, and they always have problem with the Rus', the original inhabitants or Rus' is just a a branch of the vikings. And, and they've been kicked out many times. In the 1700, the czar did not permit them to have a property or anything, the Jewish, and that's why they hated the czar until they until they removed it. So this has been going for hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of year between them
[02:34:42] Unknown:
two. If you'll study history, you'll see that the Russian Revolution was conceived and ran from London, England. Lennon's wife was an English Lennon's wife was an English Jew.
[02:35:02] Unknown:
Yep. And, he was done by the Jews too. Yep. And also, Robbie,
[02:35:07] Unknown:
he's a young he's a young he's a young he's a young he's a world economic forum. He's a world economic forum, whatever,
[02:35:14] Unknown:
implanted. Joe Glover is leaders? Joe wasn't. He's one of those global Julie. Julie.
[02:35:22] Unknown:
Julie. Julie. I'm sorry. Joe. Joe.
[02:35:26] Unknown:
Yeah. Joe, could you go on with what you were saying, please? Sorry. Can you can you start over?
[02:35:32] Unknown:
Well, it's just a brief comment, but, back in probably about '82 or '83, a fellow that I've he's an aircraft dealer put me onto this and talked spent hours talking with him about this. But he convinced me that the Russian revolution, you know, back in 1917, whatever, was conceived, engineered, and administered from London, England. Lennon's wife was an English Jew. Now that's back from nineteen eighty two or three.
[02:36:16] Unknown:
To be fair to be fair to the England people, the reason they hate Russia is because the Jews took control of UK or England, and then they use England against Russia or anybody else. Like, they use us against other country.
[02:36:33] Unknown:
Lisa was the two that was a Poe that had this video about the Jews maybe getting a bum rat from the English. And if if you remember, it was the Brits that made all this Mideast, strife and terror happen
[02:36:55] Unknown:
back in the Yeah. I just posted that video earlier. Wasn't wasn't that in the Harley Schlanger video?
[02:37:01] Unknown:
Yeah. Maybe that was it. It was it was Harley Schlanger. But, you know, that started in the early early nineteen twenties.
[02:37:09] Unknown:
Yeah. And in 1985, you tell everybody in an interview that America was ready. You know, even if you show people the concentration camps, they're not gonna believe you because they are programmed already.
[02:37:24] Unknown:
That's right. And
[02:37:28] Unknown:
everybody thought that he was crazy. But now we see that he wasn't crazy. He was telling you the truth. KGB.
[02:37:39] Unknown:
But, you know, they're trying to they keep trying to paint Putin as a Soviet. And I hardly think he is.
[02:37:49] Unknown:
You know? John Grobbel is leader from the World Economic Forum. That's it.
[02:37:55] Unknown:
Just because he's a Russian doesn't mean he's a Soviet.
[02:38:02] Unknown:
He's like Benjamin. He's not from Israel. He's not a Jew. He's an American. He renounced his American citizenship when he became a Israeli.
[02:38:14] Unknown:
Netanyahu Netanyahu graduated from MIT, and he was a furniture salesman in Massachusetts, and he was the CIA operative until they pinned him to be Israeli prime minister.
[02:38:32] Unknown:
He is a CIA asset. He was a CIA asset. That's correct. And still he is.
[02:38:40] Unknown:
And still he is.
[02:38:43] Unknown:
When you're there, you never get off. It's like Tucker Carlson. He look like he don't know what's going on. It's another implant. Let me tell you something, Joe. Believe that you are in his side.
[02:38:55] Unknown:
But you're not too sure about, Joe, I'm not too sure about Putin because he removed the banking from all the Jewish control after, Soviet Union fell. And Iran, Russia, and Korea, their the and Libya. Used to be. Libya also were the only branch that the central bank did not control. So I'm not too sure about who do this in our side or not, but he's done things against them really bad.
[02:39:27] Unknown:
There are some of these, I'm a call them dictators. Like, I'm a use Gaddafi as an example, and I'm not sure at all. Okay? I'm I'm speculating here. But if they get put in these places of power and they are put in it first as a CIA asset, but then they get their military and their nation loyal to them, I'm this is rumors I've heard about Saddam also. They get their military after so long of being in there as the dictator and perhaps the CIA asset, but then they kind of turn and and wanna take their country back as as nationals, I'll say, and put their nation first.
And then they end up getting taken out. But, you know, they they get their country so loyal to them over time that they turn against being that CIA CIA asset, in my opinion. I can see that happening. Just a few of them. Power corrupt. Power corrupt, the people. Yeah. But it's not really coward.
[02:40:32] Unknown:
No. I I understand what you're saying, Lisa. I agree with you because in Panama, you know, Riega was a CA asset, and he rebelled against the bush and everything else. And, he started doing everything opposite of what they were being told. And that's why they sent 250 helicopters to take him down.
[02:40:52] Unknown:
Do you remember Elmar Torrios?
[02:40:55] Unknown:
I do not. Where is he from?
[02:40:58] Unknown:
Panama. Elmar Torrios,
[02:41:04] Unknown:
was the helicopter accident.
[02:41:07] Unknown:
The what?
[02:41:08] Unknown:
He had a helicopter accident.
[02:41:11] Unknown:
Yep. But Omar Tureos was the prime minister, president, whatever, of Panama, and Panama had taken loans from four US banks in excess of 4,000,000,000. Well, when Trios came to power, he and see they had to settle the Panamanian people with that debt. When Trios came to power, he said, we want the canal. Can't have it. Well, Chase, Chemical Bank, Morgan Guarantee, and I can't remember the fourth one. But anyway, there were four US banks that had four over $4,000,000,000 in loans to Panama. He said, you can take your loans and stick it. And that's when they took him out, but that's also when they gave away the canal in that time frame.
That was back in the, what, seventies?
[02:42:14] Unknown:
Yep.
[02:42:16] Unknown:
Something like that. And I tried to bring that up on a top radio talk show, and, boy, I mean, they kept me off of an age, man. Pulled the that gave the canal back, Joe? It's Johnson. Johnson instigated it.
[02:42:32] Unknown:
But it was Carter. It was under.
[02:42:36] Unknown:
Yeah. But Johnson Johnson rolled the start of the ball rolling.
[02:42:42] Unknown:
Hey. Hey, Joe. Yeah. You mentioned, Poe and that that there's the author Richard Poe. And in his book, he discusses on the British plot of world domination, how communism was created, the role of the Jews in the occult. How the British agents were used to foment the Bolshevik revolution and disintegrate rivals such as the Russian empire, the French Revolution as the first color revolution, which elites used to destroy nations, how the young England movement from two century ago, they called the return to feudalism sounds just like today, the great reset project. I put a link in the chat. It's a YouTube from Sketch, if you need it. You'll thank you, Joe.
[02:43:27] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. Thank you.
[02:43:34] Unknown:
My sketch.
[02:43:36] Unknown:
Yes, John.
[02:43:38] Unknown:
About that railway that you said that they somebody wants to build maybe across the Bering Strait?
[02:43:46] Unknown:
Yes.
[02:43:47] Unknown:
Would they would they have to build, like, a bridge?
[02:43:51] Unknown:
Oh, they're gonna do it. They now they do a tunnel, but back in the old days, I don't think they had tunneling technology, and they were gonna do a a land bridge, across, was the plan. And I forget who exactly was, trying to push for it, but it was, it was, basically, I wanna say, nixed by British influence, I yield.
[02:44:18] Unknown:
Yeah. And, Eugene, in China have a bridge over the water more than a 100 miles. You could check it out. They they got technology to do bridges over the sea. IU.
[02:44:31] Unknown:
Hi, Joe.
[02:44:34] Unknown:
Yeah.
[02:44:35] Unknown:
I saw or heard that, that in nineteen o three, nineteen o five, and nineteen o seven that the Russian Social Democratic Labor Party held its congresses in exile at the British Empire. So I think you're right about the fact that they ran it from London.
[02:44:58] Unknown:
Well, Frank Kelly told me that, like I say, back in about '82, '83. Yep.
[02:45:05] Unknown:
Yeah. And so they basically it says that all of these people smuggled themselves into into London and that Lennon was visiting the capital in 1902 to use the reading room at the British Museum, because they had, work by Marx and Engels in Russian that had been banned, from where he was in the Saint Petersburg libraries. And so, he actually even, it says on here that Lennon even lived, and that he was the founder of the USSR. They lived in London, for for a very long time. He actually, edited this underground newspaper called the Russian revolutionary paper, ISKRA, which was called Spark, from an office loaned to him by this British revolutionary called Harry Quelch, who was the editor of the British Social Democrat Weekly, and it was called Justice.
So he would he let his printing he lent his, printing press, and, all that guy had to do was provide his own typesetters, and then they were, from London. The copies of this were smuggled into Russia. Very interesting. Very interesting.
[02:46:34] Unknown:
Well, it's good to know that the pieces of the puzzle are still out there being setted together.
[02:46:40] Unknown:
Yeah. I yield.
[02:46:44] Unknown:
Thank you for the comment.
[02:46:46] Unknown:
And who really can control the British government?
[02:46:50] Unknown:
Those monsters trained over in Central Park in June June.
[02:46:57] Unknown:
Can you say Rothschild?
[02:46:59] Unknown:
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[02:48:11] Unknown:
Bye bye, boys. Have fun storming the castle.
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