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Kicked off a new week at the Radio Ranch with open lines and practical help for listeners navigating government forms, IDs, and everyday hurdles. We walked through how callers approach caregiver employment paperwork, background checks, and avoiding over‑sharing on intrusive online forms, then dug into passport strategy (DS‑11 vs. DS‑82), why some prefer carrying the lower‑cost passport card, what to do if a document is lost or stolen, and how to attach affidavits and supporting materials. We also touched jury summons responses, the Fully Informed Jury Association, certified mail vs. process server delivery, and when to notify state officials like the attorney general or local sheriff to establish due process on notices. From there, the conversation widened: Social Security/Medicare paycheck deductions, basic UCC literacy and the “feudal” nature of modern finance, recommended readings (from Tragedy & Hope to La Boétie), and how listeners can find local food sources and think about biometrics, REAL ID, and private alternatives. We wrapped with a lively roundtable on scripture, translations, cosmology debates, and practical homestead notes (seed saving, sea salt, and electrified gardening) — all with our regulars welcoming new voices and questions.

• Fully Informed Jury Association (FIJA): https://fija.org/
• U.S. Passport Card — overview and how to apply (travel.state.gov): https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/passports/need-passport/card.html
• Renew a passport by mail — Form DS‑82 (travel.state.gov): https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/passports/have-passport/renew.html
• Apply for a new adult passport — Form DS‑11 (USAGov): https://www.usa.gov/apply-adult-passport
• 26 CFR § 1.1‑1 — Income tax on individuals (eCFR via LII): https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/26/1.1-1
• Reasons to Believe (Hugh Ross): https://reasons.org/about/hugh-ross
• Answers in Genesis (official site): https://answersingenesis.org/
• Tragedy & Hope 101 — Joseph Plummer (official page with free text/audio): https://www.joeplummer.com/
• Carroll Quigley — Tragedy and Hope (reference overview): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tragedy_and_Hope
• Étienne de La Boétie — The Politics of Obedience (Mises Institute): https://mises.org/library/book/politics-obedience-discourse-voluntary-servitude
• EatWild — directory for local grass‑fed meat, eggs & dairy: https://www.eatwild.com/
• Listener’s Bible (Max McLean): https://listenersbible.com/
• Redmond Real Salt (official): https://redmond.life/pages/realsalt
• Celtic Sea Salt (Selina Naturally official site): https://www.celticseasalt.com/
• The God Culture (site and video hub): https://thegodculture.org/
• The Global Voice — Internet Radio (network referenced on‑air): https://www.theglobalvoice.info/
• Euro Folk Radio (mentioned broadcast affiliate): https://eurofolkradio.com/

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Well, there you go.   And we're gonna start out another week of trying to do just that right there as influence some people possibly down the road at some point, affect a little change   in this negative world that's run by Satan and his minions.   So what he told Jesus, he's right. We know how he does it.   We can teach you and show you how to get out of it. Here we go. Monday, Roger Sales, the radio ranch. It is December 8 and the twelfth month and,   few days, couple of weeks away from the big days,   two weeks in a row.   And it is that time of year. I hope it's being good to you. Never particularly   for many years been my favorite time of the year, Paul, ever since my first divorce. It's kinda gone downhill.  

And then, you know, you know, one of the definitions of insanity,   there's several.   Buying things you don't   know, and spending money you don't have   to buy things you don't need for people you don't like.   That's the definition of insanity and in many instances, Christmas probably.   Gotta get presents for this one, that one.   Okay. Well, here we go. Paul, would you please, step forward, get in the spotlight, and show us and tell us?   Folks that are helping us this Monday morning may not be a full compliment on extending our reach, if you would, please.  

[00:04:00] Unknown:

Or well yeah. Oh, there you go.   I I had my microphone turned off. Yeah. As soon as I figure out who the who they actually are.   Okay.   We are   on,   eurofolkradio.com.   That's our,   our,   staple. Kitty, go lay down.   She bothers me every time at the beginning of the show.   She's He sends her makes me nuts.  

[00:04:34] Unknown:

He sends her. Well, you're lucky he's not clawing on your on your calf or something. Well, that's what she was doing. She grabbed my my my shirt with her claws, and she was trying to pull me off my chair. Get Out of here. Out of here.   Out of here.  

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Eurofolkradio.com   is brought to us by pastor Eli James,   and, we appreciate that very much.   And Global Voice Radio Network,   radio.globalvoiceradio.net,   that's my pet project,   and rumble.globalvoiceradio.net,   we're also there as well.   And our website is thematrixdocs.com,   where you'll find links to free conference calls so you can actually join us live on the show and all that happy stuff.   So yes. It's all good. Cool. It's it's a light compliment, but, you know, like they say, the list is short but distinguished.  

[00:05:30] Unknown:

Well, you just never know. You never know. So here we go anyway. Well, good morning, folks. Hope you had a good weekend.   Kinda, I haven't been been able to identify anything substantial that happened over this weekend politically or any of that stuff because I've been watching football and whatnot.   It's a great distraction. I know some of you roll your eyes, but, man, it's just a distraction.   It's a distraction I enjoy,   and I've been doing it since I was a kid. You know?   So, anyway,   interesting to see all those things develop and evolve and change.   Everything's in this state of change, man.  

We wanna conserve.   Conservatives   want to conserve by the nature of the label.   Well, oh, no. No. It's gonna be better over here. It's all progressive   and   nope. Thanks. Give me the old wives' tales.   Old wives, Paul, they might have been old, but, boy, they knew what they're talking about when they give you those little pearls   of advice. And those came from just being conservative and what the generation before found, etcetera, etcetera. We don't want all this   blue hair, crocodile tears, progressive crap.   It's never worked anywhere they've ever tried it, but they always try and come back. Anyway,   so good morning.  



[00:06:52] Unknown:

Hello?  

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Had a little cough. Pardon me.   There's somebody in the background talking.   You know, it's been nice. We had a nice show Saturday with Oliver.   Oliver, our new, hello? Could you would would you like to communicate?   Hello?   Okay. We had Oliver on Saturday. Got to go back and spend some time with Oliver. He's our new   new student. He's been he's been a journeyman student even though he's Irish. He'd been in the country number over twenty years, naturalized, and he got into he's one of those people this information really appealed to, not just ours, but the whole concept and   had been chasing some of the gurus around.  

Hopefully, we can get him straight, get some of that stuff out of his mind that he was taught that is just not true.   So, anyway, that's exciting. We've got some new students lately, and,   we're we're building slowly, but it looks like more and more people are looking for answers, Paul.   And, we've got them. We've got them for you if you'd like to   remove yourself from from,   satanic Jew slavery,   rabbinic   Judaism   slavery,   Sprint would call it.   We got the answers for you.   And, it's provable. It's explainable. We'll tell you why everything is and why everything works the way it does, at least on the surface.   And,   enough for you to get your arms around and make a decision on whether you wanna continue to live that life of servitude or if you wanna be free,   which very few people in the history of the planet have ever been able to achieve.  

So, that might be very desirable for you. And if so, we'd like to   help you achieve that. If you don't want it, you can go on. We have people that turn this down.   Julie had her her, gold bug buddy,   Austin on a while back, two two two weekends and, you know, two Saturdays. He came back and said, no. It's not for me. Okay. Well, Austin, go on. At least the seed's been planted.   And that's too bad because that guy in a   that position could have had the e the chance to influence a lot of people. He's talking to a lot of customers. It's about finances and all this stuff bleeds right into this.   So it's unfortunate, but that's the way it is. Oliver said, man, why? This is so explosive.  

What what can we do? Can you market it or something?   Good question. I've toyed with it over the weekend.   We've always run this thing on a very low budget   and kinda like   I I'm I want the good lord's involvement in this. We're freeing his people.   And and I want him to open these doors because I learned over the years, I just can't do it.   I mean, I   would think I could. I I can contact these gurus,   and I can send them information. And as I've told you several times,   I've done that.   From Gerald Celente   on the SGT report and on down.   Over the years, I've sent them all the information, and   I've never even had a reply,   not one,   from all those packages that were sent out.  

So you take back and say, I'm gonna have to punt on fourth down here, and what we're gonna do is just, take the old MLM formula of person to person, which is the best advertising that you can buy.   And like the old saying says, the truth is like a lion. Let it run free.   And that's what we do.   And at some point and we're growing. It's it's working. It's just taking a long time.   And the reason because,   Ollie, like,   like the late Deanna Spingola,   wouldn't everybody   wanna do this?   Well, no.   That's hard to believe.   Set your mind off on a whole new area of thinking.  

How   is it the fact that they've dumbed everybody down onto a large degree,   through the education system?   Is it because they've got them pro progressiveized?   Is it because they've got them conditioned over in the corner waiting for the SWAT team to come kick their door in and take their stuff?   Is it all those thing? I don't know.   There's probably a little bit of all of them, really.   But I do know, and I have come to the conclusion that this is only meant for small,   like, yeah, h l minkin would say, disreputable   bunch of people who wanna be free, who who like truth,   who wanna live truth.  

And, so that's what we are. If that's up your alley, you found the right place.   If you didn't,   we can explain stuff to you and you can go on about your way, and that's perfectly alright with us. We'll not chastise you.   Yeah. Because like your spirituality,   Paul,   like whether you're gonna be a Muslim or a Christian, this is your choice right here. Paul, you wanna say something?  

[00:12:04] Unknown:

Yeah.   Well, like like Paul English says,   when it's just,   him, myself,   Eric, and   That   US guy from Minnesota? I can't believe I   forgot the guy's name.   He's in Wisconsin or Minnesota or is it Yeah. Him. Yeah. But, anyway, if if it's just like the normal four people,   Paul says that, well, it's just the usual reprobates on the program, I guess. All true. I guess that's what applies to you. Well, that's well, that's how they look at us, of course.  

[00:12:50] Unknown:

Reprobates that want your freedom don't want man unelected bureaucrats   re   reinterpreting   regulations,   applying them to you.   We just don't want that kind of stuff because it's not right, and it's not real. Patrick. It's godly, and it's a, yes, freaking lie.  

[00:13:07] Unknown:

Yes. Patrick.   Patrick. We we asked you the no. We asked for it. Yeah.  

[00:13:12] Unknown:

Yeah. I I remember. Yeah. When you said it, of course, I remembered it.   So anyway, that's what we're here for. Start out the week like that. Usually, of course, we're coming out of the weekend and   and, it's not hadn't been a whole bunch happening substantial on the weekends lately,   at least that I've been able to pick up, and I've been distracted   with all this,   stuff.   So,   anyway, here we go. Anybody got any questions or comments? We got any new students by any chance that,   have found the place and are don't be apprehensive now. We're not gonna bite. We really invite new people. That's why we get out of bed six days a week and do this program. It's for you   because it is very complex, and our enemies have done a   more than masterful job of hiding it right in plain sight. We explain it to you,   give you the opportunity to go check it out should you,   and I encourage you to do that.  

And the reason for that is well, just a second. But but when I tell you something, it's, oh, Roger told me this guy on the radio. But when you go look at it yourself,   you've made that information yours. It's no longer somebody telling you something. It's something you went and looked at. Yes. Who was trying to say something there?  

[00:14:28] Unknown:

Yeah. I can hear me now.  

[00:14:30] Unknown:

Yes. I hear you fine. Loud and clear. Who who are you?  

[00:14:34] Unknown:

I had a lot of problems,   last time I was on.   I found out my,   switch for my my microphone on the headphones was turned off. I didn't I haven't used these before, and I I didn't know it had a switch.  

[00:14:48] Unknown:

Alright. Well, that'll do it. You know, that'll do it every time. Who am I speaking with?  

[00:14:53] Unknown:

This is Lee from Missouri.  

[00:14:55] Unknown:

Hey, Lee. Hi. Are you new?  

[00:14:59] Unknown:

I'm fine as frog hair. How are you doing?  

[00:15:02] Unknown:

No. I didn't say are you good. I said are you new.   I'm good. I'm good. There's four here. I'm good as frog hair split four ways, Lee.  

[00:15:12] Unknown:

Well, that's good.   Yeah. I had a couple questions.   One Good.   My my wife is I do   I'm a caregiver.   I don't get paid, but things have been really rough. And   and I I'm looking into,   becoming a paid caregiver.   And I was wondering if there's somebody on here that's gone through that process   before because they ask you all kinds of questions. They do a background check, a bunch of fingerprints.   There's a million things they wanna know that   that   I haven't dealt with before.  

[00:15:54] Unknown:

Understandably.   I don't know anybody in the audience. I know, Bruce. He's in there in Missouri. He's over in,   oh, what's the place where everybody goes? It's country music and all that stuff. Anyway, that's where he is. Bruce, you with us today?   Hey, Bruce.   Okay. Well, Bruce isn't with us. I don't think he's official. He's pretty honorary guy. He likes this freedom stuff, and he likes to be   Mhmm.   Computational. Hey, Bruce. Bruce, meet Lee. He's in Missouri too.  

[00:16:28] Unknown:

Well, good luck being in Missouri.  

[00:16:31] Unknown:

Hi, Bruce.  

[00:16:34] Unknown:

Well, did you hear good luck. Did you hear   yeah. Did you hear his situation,   Bruce? I'm a caretaker too. You're gonna see there, Lee, right there. At your beck and call in your same state. How's that for service?  

[00:16:48] Unknown:

Oh, that's good.  

[00:16:51] Unknown:

Who are you signing up with to do a caretaker?  

[00:16:56] Unknown:

Okay. Okay. I'm I'm I have a little hard time hearing. So if you can speak a little slower He just more to speak.  

[00:17:03] Unknown:

He said, who are you? He's got he's his phone isn't the best. He said, who are you signing up with to do your caregiving   stuff, Lee?  

[00:17:11] Unknown:

Let's   see. I   I don't know offhand.   I'd I'd have to ask my wife.  

[00:17:21] Unknown:

Okay. I'm with in in home solution.   I didn't have to do any of that stuff.   If somebody wants you to take care of them   and your relative or your friend or whatever,   you'll get paid to do so.   In in home solution.  

[00:17:41] Unknown:

Look that up. Okay. In house solutions.  

[00:17:44] Unknown:

No. In home solution.  

[00:17:46] Unknown:

Oh, in home solutions. Okay. Yeah. Right.   Something to write here.  

[00:17:52] Unknown:

Now, Bruce, have you ever had any problems doing this? Is it is it something you get you say you get paid,   You've never had any problems? Recently, he had an accident, automobile accident   that,   there in Branson. He's in Branson area, Lee. And,   had to deal with all that with the cops and stuff. You still didn't have any problems out of that, did you, Bruce?  

[00:18:14] Unknown:

Oh, I still got a problem with them.   That's the that's the problem.  

[00:18:21] Unknown:

Yeah.   Great.  

[00:18:23] Unknown:

Yeah. Well well, see, they accused me they accused me of being   a sovereign citizen. I tell them there's no such thing as a sovereign citizen. He said, it looks like a he looked like a sovereign citizen to me. I just let him go.   Because he this this is his Why don't you ask him?  

[00:18:39] Unknown:

Why don't you ask, excuse me. What are the physical characteristics of a sovereign citizen?  

[00:18:46] Unknown:

He don't know. He just did what he was told to do. Not.  

[00:18:50] Unknown:

Well, the Southern Poverty Law Center came in and dealt with your damn police department, probably sent them to Satan's sandbox   for a little IDF training, and this is what comes out of all that.  

[00:19:03] Unknown:

Well, the whole point was he stole my property off my my, tag off my car. That's my property, not his,   and he threatened me.  

[00:19:12] Unknown:

So, So Lee He's got a lot of here, the bottom line is please drive carefully.   K?  

[00:19:19] Unknown:

So I was trying to drive carefully. I just bumped into a guy. He's a little little big defender.  

[00:19:26] Unknown:

I know. And,  

[00:19:28] Unknown:

we me and the guy had already settled everything   until I said I was a national.   And he just said he didn't say what is that. He just said,   do you have license? I said, no. I don't need a license. I he said, well, do you have you have a tag? I said, yeah. I got a tag, but it's not a state tag.   I like to have a tag on my car. It's my my vehicle.   And,   he said, well, he called police, and that's when they came by.   Nobody on that police force that came by, three of them, never gave me a card   of theirs. They're out of uniform if they don't have a card or present a card to me.   So that's another problem they got.  

But, anyway  

[00:20:12] Unknown:

But you haven't had any problems with the care business from anybody in the state with this Oh, no.   Okay. No. That's what Lee's interested in. Okay?   Right. So, Lee, you got other questions you can ask Bruce right here on there, live and living. No.  

[00:20:30] Unknown:

A couple of them, really.   Bruce, do you know, Richie down there in Branson?  

[00:20:35] Unknown:

No. I don't know hardly anybody. I just got here two years ago.  

[00:20:40] Unknown:

Need to fix you up with him. He's he's quite a character. He's he's gone through this. He's   they put him in jail. They wouldn't put him in jail for fifteen years for   telling a judge he was gonna sue him.  

[00:20:53] Unknown:

Of course, I Yeah. They They're sensitive   they're sensitive people here. You know? Yeah. Yes. They are.  

[00:21:00] Unknown:

Okay.   My next question is, you know, when you, when you send something to the governor and you put a copy sent,   now   do you just send a copy of that letter to, say, like, the sheriff's department?  

[00:21:17] Unknown:

Every office every everybody,   this head office   of their their,   like, the attorney general.  

[00:21:27] Unknown:

Mhmm. That's the one you want, Lee. Sheriff.  

[00:21:31] Unknown:

Right. The governor.   Everybody's liable now. When you send them the information,  

[00:21:37] Unknown:

they're all liable all the way down the line. Yeah. We usually don't include hold hold on, Lee. We usually do not include the governor or the secretary of state, although you can if you want.   But the one you really wanna center on is the attorney general of the state, the one you've got that replaced the guy that's gonna be   head of department of justice or something going up there in DC now. I don't But that's the one that you said   hold on just a second, Bruce. You want to send it to the attorney general,   and you want a carbon copy at the bottom, all those other people,   your local sheriff,   your local chief of police, if you have one,   your local district attorney.  

You could even put your local public health official on there, although it's probably not necessary.   I don't think they're gonna be taxed. When you when you carbonate it.   You send it you send it regular mail or certified? I would well, I you know, you can do it however you want. You you but, but most people send it certified.   And,   although if you really wanted some impact   and you got some extra shekels,   you could go ahead and pay a process server   and have it hand serve to the attorney general like a lawsuit   because it'll for sure get their attention then.  

Mhmm.   Okay. Okay. Just a suggestion from a student one day. I thought it was very good.   You can do that with the governor.   Okay? But but anyway, that's those are the core people that you wanna cover with your notice   because what you've done now   is you've instituted   the process that our whole law system is on   pending on. It's called due process. Now due process, Lee,   is notice   and the right to be heard.   So what you're doing is you've done what you need to do with the feds.   You're coming back and putting the state on notice   that now you're theirs and that they owe you a special relationship.  

Now most of them don't know this. I'll grant you that.   We're talking with Oliver about it the other day. The special relationship   they owe you is they owe you protection   from outside invaders like   traffic laws,   state agencies that are targeted for residents,   things like that.   See, they're supposed to be protecting you from that,   and they don't know this. And so they   enhance sometimes   by   just   circumstance agency,   get caught in this thing where maybe the local   police guy after notice   pulls you over and write you a ticket.   Well, he's out he stepped outside of his delegated responsibilities.  

These people we give this authority to,   they can only work within certain parameters.   K?   And they can do this, do that only to certain people. And once they step outside of that,   they lose their cloak of immunity,   and they become personally liable.   And because you've tied them all in through the laws of agency   with the simple statement at the top of the cover letter,   notice to the principal is notice to the agent. You're noticing the principal, the attorney general. It's notice to the agent, all those other people you cc'd.   Notice to the ad notice to the, principal is notice to the agent. Notice to the agent is notice to the principal.  

So you've put all of them in that situation.   Should they prosecute you,   persecute you when they're supposed to be giving you protection,   well, they've messed up with a capital f. Okay? And they all lose their cloak of immunity.   So, anyway, that's the theory behind this. K?  

[00:25:35] Unknown:

Okay.   One one thing to Bruce there.   You got my, email address there. I wonder if Bruce could get a hold of me off offline here or something.  

[00:25:45] Unknown:

Bruce, did you could did you put it can you put it in the chat or something where Bruce can see it? Bruce, you can see the chat, can't you?  

[00:25:56] Unknown:

Bruce.  

[00:25:57] Unknown:

Hold on. We gotta yank his chain a little bit. Bruce.  

[00:26:02] Unknown:

He probably got a ticket.  

[00:26:04] Unknown:

Bruce, you Yeah. I mean, I'm looking up I'm looking up a I'm I'm looking up a phone number he can call.   Oh, okay. Look it up for him. Alright. Alright. Well,  

[00:26:14] Unknown:

okay. Continue to look. And when you come back and give him the phone number, we're gonna give you see if you've got access to the chat and you can get his email address.   K?  

[00:26:24] Unknown:

I don't have access to the chat.  

[00:26:27] Unknown:

Okay. Well,   Lee, you wanna get do you mind giving it out over the air?   What, my phone number or my email address? Yeah. Your no. Your phone number or your email address.  

[00:26:41] Unknown:

Okay. 417  

[00:26:43] Unknown:

Oh, well, he's looking up something. Well, woah. Woah. Woah. Woah. Woah. Woah. Hold on. Let's let him get doing what he's doing, then we'll come back and put you two together and get the communication   solid.   Bruce is looking up the phone number of in home care for you.   So what else, Lee, while he's busy doing that, can I help you with?  

[00:27:06] Unknown:

Nothing?  

[00:27:09] Unknown:

You had a question to me?   Yeah.   Okay. I you wanna repeat it? I could. Like I said, I'm part of the jury.  

[00:27:17] Unknown:

That's okay.   Is there anything else I can help you with while Bruce is looking for that phone number?  

[00:27:25] Unknown:

Okay.   You want me to give the number to you? Or Mm-mm.  

[00:27:30] Unknown:

I asked you anything else phone number. Alright. Here's the number. Alright. There's your pen get pencil and paper leaf.  

[00:27:37] Unknown:

Okay.  

[00:27:40] Unknown:

You got it?   Yep.  

[00:27:43] Unknown:

Yep. Go ahead.   He's waiting on you.  

[00:27:46] Unknown:

Yeah.   Okay. 870870.   654654.   3660.  

[00:27:59] Unknown:

3660.  

[00:28:01] Unknown:

Okay. This this is this is this is Brandy, and she can set you up   and tell you what you need to do. It's very simple   and set you up for payment for taking care of people   And tell her that Bruce sent you.  

[00:28:22] Unknown:

Tell her Bruce sent you, Lee.  

[00:28:24] Unknown:

I'll give you a call because for some reason, that it's it's a little muffled. I'm having a hard time hearing.  

[00:28:30] Unknown:

Okay. What the number he gave you is not his number.   It's the in home service number, and the girl's name was what'd you say? Brenda?  

[00:28:41] Unknown:

Brandy.  

[00:28:42] Unknown:

Brandy.   Brandy, you're a fine girl.   And,   Lee, you can reach out and talk to Brandy.  

[00:28:50] Unknown:

Okay. Give me I'm gonna give the number back to him now   for her.   It's   (870)   654-3660.   And this is her cell phone then.  

[00:29:09] Unknown:

Yeah. I just don't know. She she can, help me through this with,   being a national  

[00:29:16] Unknown:

No. No. No. No. No. That's here.   This Brandy is the is the in home service girl you're gonna contact. Right. Yeah. I got that. She's familiar with the national issue, though.   I doubt it. She's not  

[00:29:31] Unknown:

no.  

[00:29:35] Unknown:

Did that come up in your conversation with her, Bruce?  

[00:29:39] Unknown:

No. Not at all.  

[00:29:41] Unknown:

Okay.   Alright.   Well, I'll I'll I'll I'll get the application, and it'll go from there.   Because it's they got too many questions on there. I mean, they even wanna know what,  

[00:29:54] Unknown:

but You don't go through all that with her. You won't go through all that with her. No. If you got somebody that wants you to be there,   she'll get you on there. Do all the paperwork for you.  

[00:30:09] Unknown:

I didn't catch that.  

[00:30:12] Unknown:

Did you hear that, Lee?   No. I didn't hear that. Do everything for you, and she won't ask you all those intrusive questions.  

[00:30:21] Unknown:

Oh,   okay.  

[00:30:24] Unknown:

As long as you've got somebody that wants you to be their caretaker,   it appears you're in you're in good ground.  

[00:30:32] Unknown:

Yeah.   Okay? Well, that's that's the way it should be. The the this company that,   my wife went to before, I just I mean, it's just   they wanna know everything.  

[00:30:45] Unknown:

Did you tell them you were a national?  

[00:30:49] Unknown:

No. I didn't fill it   out. She had a couple other people fill it out, and they never they never showed up.   So  

[00:30:58] Unknown:

Okay. Well, check with, with this girl, Brandy, and see if this isn't a better course for you.   And then if she doesn't satisfy you, which I doubt that'll be the case, you can come back and talk to us about it.   It's me who can tell you about being a national.   I'm here, Roger, that pioneered this whole thing   on top of my teachers'   eighty plus years. I've put many years into it, over a hundred years of legal research into this, historical research all also.   So this didn't chop chicken liver. It's not some kind of PA y trick because I don't charge you for anything,   and all I wanna do is affect change. And I can't affect change in this world against these bastards   unless we got numbers.  

So that's why we do it like this. If I charge people for this,   we wouldn't even have the amount of people we got now.   So charging people is not the answer. I'm not here to make money or make a business out of this. I'm here to try and effect change. And the only way you're gonna do that is with the truth on one hand and numbers on the other. And they're scared to death of this. I can promise you. K?   You never hear about whimper out of them. They wouldn't whisper my name   anywhere.   They're so scared of this information. That's why nobody's ever heard of me. That's why,   you know, people widen this out there.  

Well, hell, it's not from lack of trying.   Okay?   So, Lee, how else can we help you on the national front?  

[00:32:31] Unknown:

I think well,   I just got jury   duty notification,   and I just filled out the   questionnaire. And the first thing they wanna know whether you're a US citizen or not, and I said no. And they said upload any documents.   So I uploaded my,   letter to the secretary of state.   Good. We'll see how that goes.  

[00:32:53] Unknown:

Oh, you'll know. You won't hear from them, probably.   Pardon? They won't pursue it.   You can also tell them you're a member of the fully informed jury association. Fijia,  

[00:33:05] Unknown:

F I J A. Well, actually, I'm an old timer like you are.   I'm over 75. And if you're over 75,   you don't have to.  

[00:33:15] Unknown:

Oh, well, I got you by I got you by two years. So,   okay. I   didn't know you that at all. You know, sometimes serving on jury duty is good,   really. I I realize that But they won't they won't put you on there.  

[00:33:30] Unknown:

Yeah. I'd I'd love to.   I'm so tied down here on the farm with my wife that   it just   I it's hard to get anything done around here. In fact, I Yeah. I listen to shows on a replay   most of the time.  

[00:33:45] Unknown:

Yeah.   Well, we're glad to talk to you live.   Pardon?   We're glad to talk with you live.  

[00:33:55] Unknown:

Oh,   I'm glad to talk to you too.   It's funny funny thing about the jury.   When I first came here some forty years ago,   I didn't have a driver's license. I hadn't had one for, like, forty years.   And,   I I had a jury   demanded jury trial,   and the boy died of the jury.   And this one alternate juror,   I I bumped him.   I I don't know why I did,   but that guy came up to me afterwards and said, if you would have picked me, you would never gone to jail.  

[00:34:32] Unknown:

Did you have to go to jail?  

[00:34:36] Unknown:

Well, I spent seventy four days in jail because I didn't pay the fine.  

[00:34:41] Unknown:

Was that in Missouri?  

[00:34:43] Unknown:

I I I sound like Bruce.   I could be cantankerous at times.  

[00:34:47] Unknown:

Okay.  

[00:34:49] Unknown:

Well, we're glad you got that under your seventy something jail days in jail isn't pleasant. It's a hell of an experience,   and we're glad you got it behind you.   Well, here's,   you know, the thing is, with this national thing is we always are apprehensive. Will they work with us? Will they do that? Will   we've never had an instance,   I guess, except for federal employment or something. And even then, it'd be alright,   but you'd have to pay the tax, I would think, because you're directly employed by them.   But,   anyway, but, usually, bureaucrats just do what we ask them to do, and it's just like Alma. You know, it's funny. Alma, if you're listening, you've heard Alma a little bit lately, our our, Mexican naturalized gal,   they're in,   New Jersey.  

And she she told us the other day was a paralegal and for five years   used to work with the,   helping Mexicans in in some capacity with the consul, etcetera, etcetera.   And she's going well, so she had some legal training. You know?   And, she's going, look at this. I see this national everywhere.   She's looking at one of the old forms that she used to use, and there it is two or three times. And we've had a number of people   come on the air. They go, well, hell, it's right here. You know, you see it everywhere,   but you didn't see it before.  

Okay? Now you understand what it is. It pops up like a mushroom.   So, that's what we found. And most times,   I can't remember very many,   where, the bureaucrat did not cooperate and do what we needed them to do once they were properly   if they were giving   a, defense of some sort or being honorary,   once you start showing some of this stuff, most of them, come to heal, Lee.   So what our experience has been.   So how long have you had your, affidavit on file with the secretary?  

[00:36:47] Unknown:

A little over a year.  

[00:36:50] Unknown:

Congratulations.   Did you get a passport card also?  

[00:36:53] Unknown:

Well, I'm I had a passport in the past, and I had when I was dealing with this driver's license issue,   I had this friend help me get a passport. And   he's a really smart fellow,   but he really didn't know   what was going on. So Yeah.   I I did a Freedom of Information Act to get   what I'd filed because I I don't remember. It's, like, over eight years ago.   Right. So I'm waiting to get what I filed back so I don't screw it up like,   like one guy did that Okay. Well, they won't up and down.  

[00:37:32] Unknown:

Do what you need to do is rephrase that as a privacy   act request   because you're asking for private information, and they won't give you that just on an open for FOIA.   The privacy act request is very similar to a FOIA, but it's a privacy act request, and they can send you the information they've got on you in that folder.  

[00:37:55] Unknown:

Okay? Yeah. I've I probably did that. They're they responded. I've got a number and everything. I'm just waiting for it to fly.  

[00:38:03] Unknown:

Alright. Well, it'll probably be in there if you put ours in there or maybe if you put somebody else's in there, but that's the way to go about that. Did you get a passport book or a passport card or both?  

[00:38:15] Unknown:

I had a passport book.  

[00:38:18] Unknown:

Well, what you really need is the card.   Okay?   So,   we we try and steer everybody to apply for the card. It's only $30,   and,   it's not a 140   like a passport.   And and, you you don't really wanna be carrying your passport book around with,   because if it gets lost or stolen, you got to report it. Then you got to go back to the start and do start doing everything with this, with the, from the start requirements. So   if you can,   you can take that passport you've got   and do a DSAD   two   and simply order a passport   card   and include your affidavit   in with that package.  

You don't have to go to the post office. You don't have to sign it in front of an administrating official. You don't have to include your birth certificate.   There's a lot of those requirements that are required initially   that you will not have to do on the on the reapply.  

[00:39:22] Unknown:

Yeah. Well,   it's it's it's been too long since I I had that. I have to,  

[00:39:29] Unknown:

reapply. To go back to the start? Has it been over fifteen years?  

[00:39:34] Unknown:

Yeah. That's that's that's why I'm   that's why I did the request   to get all the information I put on the first passport because I I don't remember. I was under under a lot of duress at that time, and he he   he did things that probably shouldn't have done.   So Well, the passport figure out what I did.  

[00:39:53] Unknown:

Well, the well, you just if it's expired,   it's alright. You just re reapply. You can do this at any time.   The reason you can opt out at any time and they have to put that option in all the forms,   DS 82, DS11,   is because we're in the feudal system.   You've agreed to voluntary servitude, so you can volunteer out at any time. That's the reason it works like that.  

[00:40:18] Unknown:

Yeah.  

[00:40:20] Unknown:

But just go back and do that and go and this time, you won't have to pay that $140.   Just order a passport card.   Go back, do a d s 11. You have to go to the post office. You have to get a copy of your certified copy of birth certificate.   You got a couple of questions in there that aren't in other applications.   And, if you need to call back and ask us, and we'll walk you through it. But all the answers are right there. It's just they've hidden them.   You see,   you're old enough to remember the paperwork reduction action Watergate,   Lee.  

And out of that, one of the decent things that came out of it was this   thing called the paperwork reduction act. I don't know if you're familiar with it or not,   but they made every government agency   that puts out what is called a public information   gathering   request.   Public information gathering request. And if your document that the agency's putting out is given out to the public and asking for information to be sent back,   it's got to be constitutional.   And their requirement   is to send that proposed,   whatever it   is, over to the Office of Management and Budget.  

OMB excuse me. My stomach's wanting to give me some fits here.   Over to OMB,   and they send these, requests through a very rigorous   constitutional   check   to make sure that the forms are all constitutional because we're talking about agencies now, k, who aren't in the constitution.   And so when they   meet those requirements,   they give it and issue it a number, and it will be printed on that form,   OMB number, whatever it is.   And that means that the document has passed this   rigorous   test   of being constitutional. Now   it's very interesting with that because what that makes the passport   applicationally   because a passport is a document issued by the secretary of state to identify you to foreign nations.  

And to identify you correctly,   then he's got to know your correct legal status, doesn't he? Political status from where you get your rights and to whom you owe your duties.   And so that's what makes this so tricky   is they've got to put that information in there   to qualify for the OMB number.   So it's there.   You just have a you will have a hell of a time finding it   if you don't know exactly what you're looking for.   K? Now  

[00:43:11] Unknown:

yeah. I got a letter from the   the,  

[00:43:14] Unknown:

county clerk. It doesn't have no MB number on it. No. No. It's not an agency. He's a count he's a county clerk for the for the   judicial system. He's not an agency. If you would have gotten   something like that from the Missouri   agency for whatever, then I think they probably have some state legislation that parallels   the feds. But that's what that whole OMB number is.   And and this is even funnier. It used to be and I've got a copy of the old   11 form here from when I left the country, both of them, actually.   And, I was reading it one night, and they've got a in the instructions, they used to have I'm not sure now they've changed all that a bit.  

They used to have a section called the Paperwork Reduction Act, exactly what I was explaining to you.   And they were explaining this in that very simple this is in the instructions now.   And they go, well, they said we have to get an OMB number for all this stuff. And and it's very difficult to do   because our our citizenship   laws are very complex.   And I started laughing.   And I called up Glenn, my teacher, and   read it to him. And and he goes,   I'll say they're complex.   Said they send you to jail for fifteen years just for trying to teach them to people.   And so, yeah, that's unfortunately what happened to my two teachers that didn't have anything to do with this.  

They got them on a whole bunch of other trumped up stuff. They just wanted them off the street.   But, yeah, that's in there. The warning box is one. There'll be a box and there's a warning, big black bold letters. You can attach documentation, comma, including affidavits,   comma, but you better not liar. We'll charge you with these seven or eight   statutes in the US code.   Well, they're telling you in a threatening manner that you can volunteer out. They just don't tell you you can directly.   And the other one is in the oath.   When you look at the oath, they've changed it a bit too,   But they say, I swear under penalty of perjury, I'm a citizen of The United States, and then in parentheses in the old one, or a noncitizen   national,   and have not since acquired United States citizenship,   quotation or not quotation marks or parentheses   or US nationality,   violated any of the terms and conditions   listed on page so and so in the instructions,   then there's another parenthesis.  

And they say,   unless explanatory   statement   is attached,   close parenthesis.   Now here it is in that sentence, there's two places,   they're putting forth   this comparison   between US nationality or non citizen nationality   and citizenship.   And they don't say attach crap to it.   But here, if you violated any of the terms and conditions,   which is, you know, basically smuggling drugs or   boinking little girls in Bangkok or boys or something.   And here, they tell you, well, if you violated any of these, you need to put an explanatory statement in. But they don't tell you an explanatory   statement proceeding in the sentence. They tell you over in the instructions   buried in the middle of it in that warning box.  

So these are the links they've gone to to where they don't have to put this right out front.   But if you know what you're looking for, it's right there in front of you.  

[00:46:49] Unknown:

And to find print.  

[00:46:51] Unknown:

Oh, yeah. The devil's in the details. Boy, sure as hell is here.   So  

[00:47:01] Unknown:

I wanna thank you, Roger.   You're you're you're a  

[00:47:05] Unknown:

blessing to our our country.  

[00:47:08] Unknown:

Thank you. I'd I'd like to be a blessing to mankind because, you know, one of the things that we've got uniquely here   is people like Alma, and we've had other folks naturalized   that have come through here   for the first time in their lives ever. They'd ever have a chance to be free. If they were still in their origin country, they they don't have this opportunity there.   Although there's some people that say they might using a birth certificate,   common law birth certificate. We've never explored that here. That's out of England with a guy over there named John Smith.   But, boy, yeah, Lee, I can't tell you the warm fuzzies   that I get from helping folks, especially folks like you.  

K?   And, so we're happy to serve.   I didn't serve in the military.   I was smart enough to stay out of that crap, go fight in foreign wars for the Rothschilds, but I wanna serve my people, and I wanna serve God's people. And those are the ones that are attracted to this, it appears.  

[00:48:09] Unknown:

Thank you for your service.  

[00:48:12] Unknown:

Yeah. That's one time it applies.   Yeah. Thanks. All the crap I've had to go through. Hell, I've been called every ugly name in the book. People, you know, it's like, I they just run sometimes they just run away from you. They can't they can't handle the truth. The world does not want to know the truth, boy. That's one lesson I've learned.   So how else can we help you here this morning, Lee? Or let you know that if you got further questions or anything as you can go down this, we're right here six days a week normally.  

[00:48:46] Unknown:

I think I've got enough to chew on right now. I'll probably be back.  

[00:48:50] Unknown:

Alright. Well, that's okay. You're welcome anytime.   You got you found out how to get your microphone switched on, and you found out how to get in touch with us, so you're on the right road.  

[00:49:00] Unknown:

Yeah. Now I gotta figure out how to get the muffler out of this,   the earphones. It's I don't know if it's in the in the show   or my computer or what, but it's it's really muffled.  

[00:49:12] Unknown:

Really? No. There you try another, way of of listening.   It might be in those headphones.   Sometimes the headphones are the problem.   So you might just talk straight into the cell phone and see. We don't have any degradation on our end at all. You're loud and clear, and, everything's cool. Okay?  

[00:49:32] Unknown:

Yeah.   It's probably my ears. Alright, buddy.  

[00:49:35] Unknown:

Well, listen.   Give the missus our best and glad to meet you, and feel free to come back anytime. Okay?  

[00:49:43] Unknown:

Thank you. I I probably will.  

[00:49:45] Unknown:

Cool. Well, we'll look forward to it.   Well, we got Lee satisfied, it would appears, at least, on the spur of the moment. Anybody else got questions or comments? You got anything you'd like to say to Lee or Bruce?   Comment.   Here's Bob. Hey, Bob. I'm sorry that the,   the empire's over. Go ahead.  

[00:50:06] Unknown:

Yeah. So it seems   so it seems. Smoldering ashes in the distance.   Yeah. Hey,   Lee. Are you still on?  

[00:50:15] Unknown:

I think I am.  

[00:50:17] Unknown:

Yeah. Well, I think you are too.  

[00:50:19] Unknown:

Were you listening last week, the full I have it last week. Were you listening Saturday, the full show? I know you came in after you finally figured out how to get your mute off or or something. Were you listening prior to that?  

[00:50:32] Unknown:

Quite a bit.   I don't I didn't start off the beginning of the show.  

[00:50:37] Unknown:

Okay. Well, this would have been a little later on in the show.   I think I got the right date. I was last week was kind of a mess for me. But, anyway, I think it was Saturday.   You had when you came on, finally got   to swear you could talk, you were concerned about   some entanglement with some contract or some agreement.   What was it? What caretaker? Something going on? Right. Right.   Okay. Okay.   Did you hear   Marco Capps   not thirty or forty minutes before you were asking that question, talking about how   people get concerned about   giving away their status? That did you hear that?  



[00:51:24] Unknown:

I   don't don't recall.  

[00:51:27] Unknown:

Okay. Alright. Well, it might be instructive if you can get into the archives to go back and listen to it. But Okay.   I thought it was kind of instructive, and I was traveling in a very loud tractor, and I couldn't just pick up and talk because it would have been   very noisy for everybody, so I just didn't.   But he spoke to that very issue.   Your concern was if you sign some contractor, got into something with   getting reimbursed for being a caretaker,   that somehow that would   influence or affect or degrade your   national status.  

That was It's volunteer  

[00:52:05] Unknown:

go ahead. Yep. That wasn't the problem. The problem was the application, all the all the intrusive questions they ask.  

[00:52:15] Unknown:

I mean, it Okay. So it has nothing to do with national status?  

[00:52:20] Unknown:

Yeah. It does.  

[00:52:22] Unknown:

Well, okay. That's what I'm saying. No. It doesn't. You can't   you you can't just contract them away like that. It's a voluntary thing.   They can't they can't inhibit your ability to contract.  

[00:52:35] Unknown:

Yeah.   We,  

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If you say you're a national, you're a national.  

[00:52:39] Unknown:

Right. Don't  

[00:52:41] Unknown:

And see, it's part of the problem. Intimidate you. Because you're a citizen of The United States Of America, and they can't tell you no.  

[00:52:52] Unknown:

You're I gotta get back to work. I healed, but chew on that for a while because he he had just addressed that situation.   I'll I'll mute out.  

[00:53:00] Unknown:

Bye. Thank you, buddy. Okay. Always a pleasure to  

[00:53:03] Unknown:

hear you. They do, they make you   make you do w nine, I guess.   And that's where they ask you   withholding.   Yeah.   That's I I've I've noticed that you've changed a little bit from I I a while back.   You now say that you are a nonresident   alien?  

[00:53:25] Unknown:

That's for the tax code as it applies to taxes and that withholding   only.   I don't know on a w nine what the options are.   But for example,   what anytime you get a job in the country, you're supposed to fill out an I nine.   Used to, they had US National as an option.   They've hidden it now   as alien permitted to work.   Alien   permitted to work. You're alien from the federal government. You're a state citizen.   And because you're under God given rights, they can't impair your ability to work.  

[00:54:07] Unknown:

Okay. I think I remember that, and they they require   some   document or something to go along with that.  

[00:54:16] Unknown:

Well, again, what you what this is what you do. You know, Lee, it's better to ask forgiveness than permission.   So what you do is you fill out that form. Should you wanna go with them, I think Bruce has given you an option where you don't have to. But should you want to, fill out their stuff best you can. If you got questions on some of these dubious,   labels, come to Ask Us.   But then you attach a copy of your affidavit and you send them the paperwork with that attachment.   That should answer all their questions.   You know, you'll find out if it doesn't because you'll hear back from them if it doesn't. But otherwise, you've done exactly what you're supposed to do from exactly the position that you wanna be in, and they should honor that.  



[00:54:59] Unknown:

On on online forms, it's like this,   the jury.   They they don't give you options to, you know,   fill in the blank.   They give you a box.  

[00:55:13] Unknown:

Okay. Oh, okay. Well, let's go that's it.   Alright. Well, let's take this approach then.   Let's set them on the back burner for a little bit and see if we need them. And if we don't, we're gonna go check with Brandy, you're a fine girl, and see what she has to say, Bruce's friend. And I think you'll totally avoid all that crap with that other outfit. Okay?  

[00:55:36] Unknown:

Okay.  

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And then if that doesn't work,   you you come back and we'll explore   we'll explore. Lee, we'll explore another solution.  

[00:55:50] Unknown:

Yeah. Sounds good.  

[00:55:52] Unknown:

Okay, buddy.   So nice to speak with you. And if you got other questions, we're right here.   Let's see. Speaking of other questions, how you're Lee, you're just so welcome, man. I mean,   I I feel it's a duty. I don't know why God tapped me to do this. I'm the most unlikely of candidates with my background, yet   all the things I've experienced in my background, in my working life up to now   lend me to the ability to do this, proficiently.   So I'm real proud. I'm real real satisfied. I found you know, everybody's going, I'm look I'm trying to find myself. Like with young men,   they're trying to find their selves.  

Oh, boy. Let me tell you what. I'm not young anymore, but I sure as hell found myself, and I found what god wanted me to do   uniquely in this world.   And I try and do it the very best that I can.   And, man, is it satisfying.   You wanna talk about a life of purpose?   Yeah.   Life of purpose. Spread this message. It will,   just benefit you and and the people that are receptive to the imp. And the more we can do that, the more powerful we are, because they're scared as hell of this. And at some point, if we could get enough people,   we we expose this on one of these big stages, Lee.  

We'll get enough people to be able to put a serious hitch in their financial giddy up   by pulling ourselves out of the IRS   and not being attached to this   bogus debt any longer.   If we get enough people doing that, we're really gonna hurt these bastards. Okay? That's their Achilles heel.  

[00:57:35] Unknown:

Now you have to pay at some site. Yeah. I hear, Trump wants to do away with the IRS.   Is that Yeah. I know.  

[00:57:44] Unknown:

Well, no. I guess it's true. I've heard him say it. We don't know if the tariffs will be able to take care of that or not.   And, I say, man, please don't take them away. They're my best recruiter.   Please.  

[00:57:56] Unknown:

Well, the country was founded on tariffs.  

[00:58:00] Unknown:

Yes. It was. And they ran the country for the whole black back part of the eighteen hundreds there.   Very successful.   Just   kudos and oodles of funds overflowing the treasury.   And that's what these guys wanted to stop.   When they changed this system, instead of the tariffs taking care of the taxes,   now you do as their serf   with your extension of your labor throughout your life and this bond issues.   So that's how they switch the systems and why. Because now they get to build this whole empire   without any of their own funds.   It's all done on your back and future labor.  

And then they just sit a number of different important   positions   in that whole structure,   and they just rake that compound interest   right off the top. Three, four, five, six different places.   They have gotten   real fat.   Paul, what'd you have to say?  

[00:59:01] Unknown:

In order for terrorists to work, they are gonna have to drastically reduce government because it was a buttload smaller,  

[00:59:06] Unknown:

buttload smaller  

[00:59:08] Unknown:

back when tariffs were paying the bill. True. Well, we didn't well, what is okay? So what's the overpopulation   in government? Administrative   agencies.   Exactly. That's where all these employees   are.  

[00:59:20] Unknown:

Get rid of them.  

[00:59:22] Unknown:

Well, we'd love to. I hear people say, well, agencies aren't constitution. They're not in the constitution.   What was I hearing the other day? Something.   It's   on Friday with Brent, it's the bankruptcy.   That's the element that those people are seeing. And Brent, as stubborn as he is,   he he just he because it's not right out front in some lawsuit or some statute,   he doesn't believe there's a bankruptcy.   Mhmm. And I you know, we've had that discussion in the past. I I go to my book and colonel,   congressman Lewis t McFadden.   He was the head of the banking committee when the house had one. He was a former banker, came to Congress as a president of the bank. He'd worked his way up from emptying trash cans to the president,   comes over immediately   appointed   the head of the banking committee the first year he was there. And he was the head of that committee till they killed him in thirties.  

K? And in there,   one of those excerpts from his book, the 31 collective speeches of Louis d McFadden,   one of them starts out United   ladies and gentlemen of the congress, and he was addressing them in person.   The US is bankrupt.   The English auditors are in the treasury.   There's 21   French limousines   waiting outside.   And Brent's response to that, and God bless Brent, I'm just saying, you know, he has a hard time with this because it's not right there, and he can't believe that old Scratch has fooled him. Okay?   And and so he goes, well, he's just a politician. No. He wasn't a politician. He was a statesman.  

Go read those 31 speeches. You'll hear this guy's passion. You'll hear where his alliances   lie, and it damn sure ain't with the Jews.   You know, one of his famous speeches, if you ever looked congressman McFadden up on a search engine, it'll one of his speeches will pop up. The Jews have all the gold and the Gentiles have all the paper.   He wasn't just a politician.   Those aren't politicians' words.   K?   So, anyway,   that's, but but that that that's the reason. And Bob, who was just on Lee with us, long time listener, dear   just a a great guy, good family.  

And Bob comes on here one day, and he says, it's not   unconstitutional.   It's extra   constitutional.   The bankruptcy   put things still operating   on a whole another plane. You know, with bankruptcy, there's several kinds of bankruptcy.   One of them is they're going to close your business and sell everything and satisfy as many of the creditors who are first in line as they can.   And the other one's reorganization.   Well, obviously, we've been under reorganization.   In their eyes, they did it in the international   bond market. That's why there was no headlines and no anything else. They controlled the papers,   newspapers, and the media. They kept all that underneath.  

And   all these years later, people are none none the wiser. They think you're crazy when you, you know a guy in Argentina was trying to explain this to you. He said, Roger, that couldn't be true. There's no international bankruptcy court.   Well, it doesn't have to be an international bankruptcy court. There's a bond market,   and bond is debt. And they don't have to go settle those things out. They either pay them off or they   or or or or they don't meet their obligations.   And I'm sure what happened in 1933   when Roosevelt took the gold,   I'll bet if you went back to those United States Of America bonds   that they did all this on top of,   I guarantee you'll find a gold settlement clause in there because all contracts before '33 had a gold settlement clause. If you couldn't do it with currency, you did it with gold.  

Although mostly the currency represented metals,   but still, that's the force measure. They pay you in cash if you can't do it in the metal you're supposed to get. That's why they, that's why they have, abducted all the golds because those gold settlement clauses didn't apply anymore because the bonds had been defaulted.   So, yes, it's extra   constitutionally.   Oh, these are some sneaky sonbitches. Satan Satan's minions   are sneaky sneaky sneaky.   K? And don't you have any doubt as to who we're dealing with. When he pulled Jesus aside and he said, I control this world,   he wasn't lying, and what we've done is expose the mechanism on how he does it.  

And that it's fraud   and how to get out of it.   That's exactly what I won't tell you to do that ever.   I might encourage you.   I might try my damnedest to persuade you,   but I'll never tell you to do it because it's not my place.   Now who else can we hear from this morning?   We've had Lee. We discussed all that. We've spoken with Bruce. Any of our other good folks on this morning have something to say?   Well, Paul,  

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somebody took a mic or just   okay. We made it past the top of the hour, and I did not forget to shut off the,   the whistler. So we made it past through that. Maybe maybe people were waiting for the whistler to come up. Well, it's not gonna Well, it might be. You never know with our audience here. I've I have to beg and plead with them to speak with me. And,  

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so and I'll just have to do some more of that. I want to do some chumming, as I call it.   Call it a chum on most of the services.   Chum in the water. So,   so nobody knew, has anything to say, anybody   I was thrilling to be able to address Oliver Lee. That's who we were talking with mostly.   Saturday was our new   Irish   Oliver. Immigrated friend, Oliver.   And, nice guy. I love I love the fact we're getting these foreigners. Man, he is enthusiastic,   isn't he, Paul?  

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He absolutely is. I love that guy. I'm gonna I'm gonna have to hook up with him for, for a virtual,   ale someday.  

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There you go.   There you go. Boy, he's a super nice guy. I just he's got that little   Irish accent,   and he told us he was brought up a Catholic. He just left it at that. I don't know what he's done subsequently   with his life, but he's been in the country twenty something years. He probably in with us now because he's working. Hello? And   r r is that you, Ollie?  

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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. How are you doing?  

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Hey, Ollie. Good to hear you, man.  

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Are you working? Good to hear yourself.   Well, it's it's you know,   I'm working with, in construction and   trying, like, working with,   with stucco guys, and it's too cold the last few days to do anything. So Oh. I don't think anybody wants to be on this kind of weather anyway. So,   it's not too bad, you know. I'm I'm glad to have a bit of time off anyway.  

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Yeah. Well, I can get my  

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I did the paperwork on this whole thing that I have to do,   and and get I'm gonna go to,   go to the bank and and, you know,   notary and get it all notarized and give my notice. You know?  

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Okay. You can usually go to a bank. Also, used car lots will generally have a notary, I'm told.   You can also suffice for a notary   by having two witnesses,   and that's the same as a notary. Right.  

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Well, that's great. Didn't know that. Okay. Banks are usually free, though. Yeah. So   Usually Oh, yeah. Yeah. No. I I did that I did this before. This it was, like, 30 pages and and, like, the other silly ways that  

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yeah. Yeah. Honestly, I I went   I went and had 10 pages notarized.   I tried   to give the nice lady $20 because it would have cost me $2 a page anywhere else. And she said,   no. I really can't take that.   Notary services are free at this bank. And if I did take that, I could lose my job. So I said, okay. Okay. Okay. I'm fine. Okay. I give. I give. And and listen, should you get one of these notaries that wants to pretend they're a paralegal or a lawyer?  

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That's not their job.   They're not there to read what you're asking them to notarize and verify your signature,   which is what a notary is.   From some identification,   you sign it and that seal is is that she's witnessed that that's you.   It ain't our job to be given no, illegal advice or any of that kind of crap. So if they start that,   either tell them they're in the wrong and explain it to them or go find somebody else.  

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You tell them they're practicing law without a license   or or they're invading the privacy.  

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Well, hold on. Well, the last time the last time you did it,  

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they they never asked. I did it twice before, actually. So the last two times I did it,   they did they they never just answer your question,   Roger. They didn't, ask any question. They just looked up at that. They didn't really care what was said. They just signed it, you know.  

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Okay. Well, that's what they're supposed to do. Sometimes they step over the line a little bit.   Ollie, you've had a couple of days to do a little study and look into the material and everything. Have you got any questions   that you didn't have the other day?  

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Roger. Well well, no. Well well, no. I I   I I actually   was was was, very happy to hear that you could actually just apply for the card, and you didn't have to,   you know, do the booting. You know?  

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Yep.   Yep.  

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$30. Does that mean you have to send does that mean you have to send your passport away still though? Does it?  

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If you've got one that's open, and I think you said you do.   Right?  

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Yeah.  

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Yeah. You're gonna send that into the package. They will want that in the package,   but they will turn around and send it to you back in return mail.   Then they'll process your application.   Yeah. They'll process your application,   and then send off, and the card takes couple of weeks and comes from whoever makes the cards for them.  

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Well, that's that's good to know because I actually   I'm planning on flying out, in a couple of like, in about two weeks' time. And,   so I probably need my passport.  

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They'll step once you include include that, a note with your passport, and they'll get it back to you real quick.  

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Where are you going? You going home  

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for Christmas?   You going home for Christmas?  

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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No. No. I I have   and there's people around the house, so I have to go home and work on that. And then,  

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Okay.   Are you cutting out or or what? Yeah. Yes. All of Mark, you're cutting in and out, Oliver. Okay. Cutting out, Ollie. In and out. Let Myrca get in here. Myrca, morning.  

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Good morning.   I heard him say get it all notarized. So all he needs to get notarized is his affidavit Affidavit. Anything else.  

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Yep.   Yeah. This isn't like the David Strait approach,   Oliver. It's yeah. We're real different.  

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K?  

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No. Not not your cover letters. You don't have to do your, notarize your credit card. It's just your affidavit. No. Just the affidavit.  

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And you can do if you wanna have three or four originals,   you can do that. I'd probably sign them in blue ink.   And, but you can have multiple originals if you want. And or you can take one original and send copies. Copies are okay.   So any of that is all up to you, Oliver.  

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Oh, thank you very much, Roger. Yeah.  

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Okay. So any anything else?   Can you still hear me?   Yes. Fine.  

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Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Great. I just, I I won't move around here, so it's bad coverage.   Yeah. Is there any possible way of getting multiple cards? Like, you mean, if you pay extra, can you get, like, a couple of extras?  

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I don't think I don't think   I doubt that they will let you do that.   Why would you want multiple cards?  

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Oh, it's just in case you lost one or something like that. Anything happened. If a cop took your card or something like that. Okay. That's Well, here's what we'll do. Take a photo. That's why you take a take a copy  

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of the first page of your passport book, the one with your picture on it. You only give them the picture.   That's it. Okay, great.  

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Right.   Alright. That's good to know.  

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You could do what we do with passports. You could take your card,   go to a copier shop,   get it reproduced and laminated,   and only carry the copy of your card and leave your card at home.   That's what we do with passports down here. The reason for that,   if you ever lose one or get it stolen,   first thing you gotta do is report that it is lost or stolen back to the passport office.   Then because it's been lost or stolen,   they will make you go back and start at the DS 11 level again  

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with a Oh my goodness. Certificate  

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and sign in front of an administrating   official and all that.   So that's why we do that because and I've had to go through this process.   It was a pain in the ass. I get this. I'll get you a second, Paul. I was in Argentina back then. It's when my passport got stolen after the accident. These Americans   went in, cleaned out my house.   Got some gold and all kinds of other stuff. Nice folks.   And, so I had to go back even though I hadn't even had it two years yet and go through this whole process. Well, that's fine and good.   A little bit of extra, you know, things you have to do except   the all embassies   work on DHL.  

And so we didn't have a DHL office in my town,   so I had to take a 150   mile each way round trip to go up to a DHL office to not only send it,   but to go pick it up.   Mhmm. A real pain in the ass.  

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Oh my goodness.   That's tough.  

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Yeah. Well  

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Yeah. Yeah. Well, listen, I I I better shoot on here, Robert. It was great. I I'll try and listen to the show later on, but thanks very much for the advice. Appreciate it. Okay. Well, stay warm. Stay stay warm up there, Oliver. We'll look forward to talking with you again soon. Okay?   It must be it must be happy sitting down there in South America in a nice walk. Right?  

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It's a very nice morning this morning. It's probably gonna be about 85. I'd hardly see a cloud in the sky, and,   yeah, it's a nice place to be.  

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Oh, wow. Good for you, Roger. Thanks very much. Talk to you soon. Thanks a lot, everybody.  

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Thank you. Hey, Roger. Take care, buddy. A new student. Yes, Paul? By by the way.  

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Another thing for, Oliver.   No. They will not allow you to have multiple passport cards because the number on that passport card could be in the possession of multiple people   at the   time, so they're not going to allow that. And if you lose   or if your card or your passport is lost or stolen,   you have to file a lost or stolen   form Got it. And where they actually   cancel   the original number, and then you reapply with a d s eleven to get a brand new A new passport number.  

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Yeah. So You just you don't wanna lose it, folks. I mean, really,   it's just a pain in the butt. That's all.   But they work wonderfully. Oliver, a lot of folks, you're listening later here, a lot of folks,   that have gone through our suggested procedures. That's the only thing they carry on them is a passport card.   Interesting. Somebody got pulled over. Who was it? Somebody got pulled over there, and they gave him the passport card.   And   the cop came back and said, well, don't you have a driver's license? He said, yeah, but I'm not in commerce.   I  

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think the best response to that is a very good answer.   I think the best response to that is the secretary of state told me to use this.   That's right. That's good. That's the best answer.  

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I like that. Somebody Merkau, I think, said she sent something in the and the and somebody asked why, and I guess Muse. What the secretary of state is expecting it. What does it mean? Muse.  

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Muse was the one that Very   answered that. Ever.  

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Very clever.   Yeah.   We got some really smart folks here in this audience. Somebody else got something they'd like to hear about here. Well, there's one of our females right there. Yes, ma'am. Yes, ma'am. Yes. Yes. It's Martha. It's Martha.  

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Padgett did it first. I didn't even know she did that.   She said that, told the   I think it was the the,   passport office   that the secretary of state is expecting it, and I did the same thing,   a few years later after her.  

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Well, let me tell you. You folks that are around right now, you hadn't been exposed to Padgett yet.   You wanna talk about a type a lioness? It's this gal right here.   She ain't gonna take no crap from anybody.   K?   She's quite the student. We don't see her too much anymore,   but she is, she's a go getter.   Cool. Who else would like something to say here? Mark, could you have more to say?  

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The best way to explain Padgett   is she's like that Texan toilet paper they had to take off the market because they weren't about to take crap off of nobody.  

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That's right. This is the sewer department, and we're tired of your crap.   Okay?   Hi.   So who else has got something we can, we can pontificate on for a few minutes?   Nobody in this audience.   I find that hard to believe.   I know if I beg and urge   that somebody will bubble to the surface. They'll hear my pain, and they'll say, Roget didn't want any dead air, and he can't continue for forty minutes unabated there on that soapbox.   I think I'll   unmute and throw him a lifeline. So   who else has got to see? Me to say something?   I do, Joe. I was looking for you. There you are.  



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Well,  

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enough to   pay a guy off early this morning   in commerce.   You need to in my opinion, you need to have some discussions from time to time   regarding the uniform commercial code.  

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Well,  

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no. One knows anything about the uniform commercial code and negotiable instruments.  

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Boy, they don't. Stupid. They think we're under ad they think that stuff's under admiralty law, Joe.  

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Stupid, stupid people,   especially merchants and bankers.  

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This is another one I really like. We gotta return to the rule of law.   Right?   We gotta enforce the rule of law. Which law?   Which body of law are we talking about here?   I   about seven afraid of.  

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I asked the assistant manager of Anthony Farmer's Co op in an in Anthony, Kansas   if he went to college, and he said yes. Where did he go? Kansas State University. Where did you study? My major's in ag economics.   Did you take any business law? No.   Do you know anything about the uniform commercial code? Never heard of it. You know anything about negotiable instruments? No.  

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Stupid   people.   Isn't that funny even in our community, all these, admiralty,   maritime guys?   They've never put in any thought into this to see how the rest of the whole country runs. How does the whole financial system run  

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was run on this new CC stuff? Stupid damn woman that the that the accountant   started screaming at the top of her voice,   and she even offered to cash this check   to get me out of her office.   Oh, I tell you what. I'm sublimbing.  

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Well, for our people here, we do talk about it occasionally. Yes. Who's is somebody trying to say something?  

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Yeah. Roger. Roger. Roger. Yes. I don't mean to keep you, sir. But you know my Waheed. Yes.   My friend   yes. This is me, Waheed.   My friend that I was telling you about, the girl that I was was telling you that I was gonna give her 400 a month,   and she's living in a Section eight on EBT.   And now she's broke her damn leg, all this stuff.   I told her she she understands now what I've been trying to tell her for the past five years.   And, you know, where I work at, I I wasn't able to get to this Liberty Silver dealer, but I bought enough on my own. But it you know, it's like we're looking at probably   I was telling her, if you'd done exactly what I told you to do,   it'd be, like, four to five there I would have, personally, four to five times. But what I do have is sufficient enough for me. But now she can't work. She can't do a damn thing.  



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Dallas issue.   Is this a friend or I is this a friend or is this a special A friend a friend a friend that I told was telling  

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to do me the favor of driving to LibertyCoin to purchase it. That way, I don't have to pay the tax and shipping and   I did buy enough on my own. You know what I'm saying?   But it's like it's a good $20,000   I'm missing that I coulda had had she done exactly as I've told her to do. Right. And now she's broke her damn leg, and I'm like, she can't pay for it. She's assed out. And I'm like, I can't help you. That that $20,000   you left on the table, that's your part.  

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Well, or more. So yep. Well, the you know, there's 8,000,000 tales in the naked city. Why he   so it's unfortunate for her. Good on you.   Let me go back to, where you jumped in   and to say that we talk about the UCC around here.   Pretty often, it is involved in a lot of the processes we talk about, especially as remedies, lien, levy, garnishment, seizure.   But if you really want to know and this I teach I try   with folks to get you to look at big picture concepts   and learn some of these things, like, no nobody knows about, the UCC.   It's one of the big components.  

And when you get a number of these concepts down, you can see how they interact, and you'll know how and understand how the thing works better   As opposed to just learning all this meticulous stuff that you may or may not ever use this, you'll use   like the young kid with   the 16 piece puzzle.   So should you want to get proficient in the UCC   or at least that you're not gonna be proficient in it, let's say have a bat a solid background in it. So book on the website. Paul put it on the website. He'll tell us where it is in a minute,   and it's called historical   jurisprudence.  

Historical   jurisprudence. Now that's a history   of jurisprudence   just like it says.   It was published about a hundred years ago out of John Hopkins. I can't remember the author's name,   But the whole history of jurisprudence   starts with Babylon.   The first 90 pages of that book is easy read. It's not difficult.   The first 90 pages are all on the Babylonian merchant code.   And it starts out the very first sentence starts out with,   Babylon's   great contribution   to the world   was they reduced everything in the society   down to the abstract   form   of contract.  

That's the very first sentence in that book.   And it'll tell you a lot of interesting   things,   nuances,   if you will,   that probably even some experts on it might not be able to understand or know.   But it's just a simple read. It's one of those foundational things. Go spend a little time. You'll know more about it than the vast majority   of people in The United States,   and that is by contract. And all this stuff is by contract   And why they've gone to all these lengths to confuse and obfuscate all this is so they can turn it around a 180 degrees   and ask you those two questions.  

Are you a citizen of The United States? Are you a resident? Have you signed something? And now at least on their criteria, remember, they don't think like we do.   Pretty obvious.   Now you've admitted   and agreed to the contract they put you in at birth that you were born into unknown, a silent contract that runs   generationally,   a contract,   nonetheless,   that was part of the feudal system.   When you know this, as I was explaining to Oliver, this is a big piece that everybody's missing is the feudal system.   Because once you know the feudal system and you look into it just a little bit, it's another one of these concepts you need to learn about. You don't need to be an expert on it. You just need to know a little bit about it. Yeah. I heard Alex say something the other day that's   kinda surprised me, Paul.  

He was, again, talking about the feudal system. He doesn't understand he's in it or that he's agreed to it, but he thinks we're they're moving us into that.   And his, statement was, and the whole history of the earth, this is the political system that's ruled the largest amount of time, the feudal system.  

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K? He just doesn't know how true that is.  

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He doesn't. I wish I hope one of these days I'm gonna get to explain it to him.   So, anyway,   that's,   we we talk about the UCC, not very many other people know about it. It's also referred to, by the way, as the Babylonian merchant code.   Its origins were not in Babylon.   They were pre   Babylon.   The Sumerians   and even possibly others   that had a very crude form   of this code.   It was Babylon that perfected it and polished it. It was they were the great merchants of the earth.   Hey, Roger. People say that's what we are. And I've believed for many years, Gary, that that is exactly who The US is, is Babylon.   Gary, how you doing, brother?  



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Oh, great.  

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It's a nice drink here today. We've had rain on top of the snow, so everything's ice. I mean, it's Uh-oh. The roads are just ice.   Yeah. Uh-oh. Black ice. Let me read this, Roger.   Yeah. Let me read this.   This comes from Carol Quigley's tragedy and hope chapter 20.   Okay. Alright. This system was this system was to be controlled   in a feudalist fashion   by the central banks of the world acting in concert by secret agreements arrived at in frequent private meetings and conferences.  

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There you go. So, yeah, they It was  

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They they set this   feudalist system up eons ago.  

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And if their structure in the world's financial system on   on feudalism   excuse me.   You can damn sure bet that they can't have a feudalistic   financial system   without serfs.  

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Right.  

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Gotta have slaves if you're going to abuse them. Chapter 20. Thanks for telling me to remind I knew it was in there. I just forgotten where, but thank you. That's a very strong,   addition to our position is mister Carroll Quigley's own words. After looking at for those of you who might not know who that guy was,   he was Bill Clinton's favorite professor at Georgetown,   who, a member of the Council on Foreign Relations,   they allowed him into their files   for two years to do research.   He agreed with them on what they were doing. He just didn't think they should make it secret. He thought it ought to be public.   And he wrote this book called Tragedy and Hope.  

It was put out,   initially,   and then the backlash was so much that, I guess it was Simon and Schuster,   one of those kind of publishers.   They went in and destroyed the plates   that printed the first edition and destroyed them.   So this isn't the kind of info they wanted out there. Thank you, Gary.   Say hello to Gina.   Roger. Be careful on that black ice. That stuff is,   oh, you used to have that in Atlanta. It is dangerous.   Yes. Was that Samuel?  

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Yes, sir.   This would be a good opportunity for you and Gary to point out the importance   of those two pages of legal cases.  

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Well, okay. I'm sorry. Somewhere on the website, again, Paul can tell us because I'm not sure where it is on there. We've got two pages   of, different court,   decisions, all kinds of courts, appellate courts, district courts. I think there's some supreme courts in there. It's two pages of basically saying anybody that's a federal citizen's property.   Boom. That's it.  

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I'm looking for tragedy and hope. I know that I have it.  

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The whole book is, like, it's huge. Like, it's eleven, twelve hundred pages or something.  

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Oh, yeah. It's huge.   I'm I'm looking for the book,   and I will make sure that it's up in the recents folder on Google Drive.  

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I'm sure I have it on my local system. I have everything else. There's other books I'd encourage you to look at before you spend the time on that one, but that's a good one.  

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Chapter 20, though, is good. It's a good print. Well, especially that that just buttresses  

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everything we teach here.  

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Right. Okay.   So Alright.   On the matrix docs down in the download section, there are a number of valuable things that you can find down there. First of all, historical jurisprudence is right at the bottom of the list. We also have Federal Reserve exposed to collective speeches of Louis t McFadden. We mentioned him earlier in the show. We have the Thomas Jefferson   brief, which is a great read by,   one of Yeah. Roger's   teachers.  

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That was written by John.   That was written by John. It was included in our textbook, the textbook, quote, unquote, we used.   And that was the brief   that went after Glenn met John and he recontacted   him. That's what John sent him.   It's Thomas Jefferson brief. Go ahead. Mhmm.  

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We also have   the,   citizenship handbook for nationals b 1.2,   And we also have the Politics of Obedience Discourse on Voluntary Servitude. That is a great, great, great book.   We also have two pages.  

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Now for people like Oliver,   this book he just mentioned, the something of voluntary servitude,  

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the politics of obedience  

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When that was written,   1577.  

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And the two pages,   that,   we were referring to just a moment ago,   that is on there. That   is US citizens are property, nationals   are not.   Yeah. US citizens are property, US national state citizens are not. That's a two page PDF.  

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That's right. And we're free, and you're not.   Even if they tell you   that you think you are,   you're not.   If you wanna tell me how free you are,   you just list the things that I can do.   You hold on, Gary. You you list the things that you're able to do without a license, a permit, or permission,   and then let's discuss how free you are. Yes, Gary.  

[01:33:19] Unknown:

You can also find a condensed version of track clear and quick Luke's Tragedy and Hope. It's called Tragedy and Hope one zero one by Joseph Plummer.   If somebody's got access to the computer, they can post that post that in the chat.  

[01:33:35] Unknown:

But that's a condensed version of the book. We can give you a good background on it. That'd be good to put in there, both around that and say in parenthesis condensed version, Paul. Did you get that what Gary was saying?  

[01:33:49] Unknown:

Yeah.  

[01:33:50] Unknown:

Let me look for it. Thanks, Gary. I've heard of that before. I'd forgotten about it. Tragedy and Hope one zero one.  

[01:33:58] Unknown:

Hi, Roger. Hi, Roger. Hi, Roger. Hi, Roger. Oh, I want to phone.  

[01:34:01] Unknown:

Oh, wow. Yeah. You gotta wait while he  

[01:34:06] Unknown:

Gary, was that you trying to say something to follow-up?  

[01:34:10] Unknown:

Yeah. The author is Joseph Plummer,   just like it sounds, p o u m m e r.  

[01:34:17] Unknown:

Alright.   Yeah. Then Waheed,   front and center.  

[01:34:23] Unknown:

Hey. Hey, Roger.   You know, I wanna be like King Charles in England. He doesn't have a driver's license. He doesn't have a Social Security. Does he have do they does Queen Elizabeth have a Social Security card and a driver's license and   permits and licenses?  

[01:34:39] Unknown:

Well, how the hell do I know? I imagine he doesn't.  

[01:34:44] Unknown:

I mean, what what what do they what did queen Elizabeth do to prove that she was Elizabeth Mountbatten?   What does king Charles do to prove who he is?  

[01:34:57] Unknown:

I don't know why you think   I have answers to all these   these questions you've got, Wade, but I don't have answers to any of that.  

[01:35:05] Unknown:

Obscure questions. Does Bill Clinton or does Bill Clinton or,   George Bush do you still have IDs and Social Security cards? And I Did George Bush think I I've never had the opportunity to ask him why he  

[01:35:28] Unknown:

Still no. K.  

[01:35:31] Unknown:

Oh, I put an archive in the chat.  

[01:35:34] Unknown:

Somebody put something that Sketch, is that you?  

[01:35:38] Unknown:

Yeah. Hi. Hi, Roger.  

[01:35:40] Unknown:

Sketch, where the hell have you been? We haven't heard from you in weeks.  

[01:35:44] Unknown:

Well, I've been kind of, quiet and just,  

[01:35:47] Unknown:

using my ears versus my mouth.   If I had something really positive or interesting to   bring forward, I I would. You would And, You would come forward. You could Okay. You could say, I've been more introspective,  

[01:36:01] Unknown:

lately. Okay. Well, I just thought about you a couple of times. We hadn't heard from you. So what's in the chat now that you put in there?  

[01:36:09] Unknown:

It's an archive. In a hope in a world.  

[01:36:11] Unknown:

Yep.  

[01:36:12] Unknown:

Yep.   Okay. The subtitle on that is the illusion of justice, freedom, and democracy   at about seven. Oh, yeah.  

[01:36:23] Unknown:

Ain't that the   truth?  

[01:36:25] Unknown:

And freedom. Yeah. Well, freedom was one of those, wasn't it?   Yeah. Oh, that's our buddies and their minion, Satan,   Satan,   the man of darkness, and they are the demons   of Satan. And guess what? Now this I got I think I got it right now. I'm sure y'all correct me if I'm wrong.   Brent said it was demons who were the distributors of wealth,   Not Satan, but his minions and demons. Is that right, Paul?  

[01:36:54] Unknown:

I   I wouldn't say either right.   I'm not sure.  

[01:37:02] Unknown:

Well, that's a Probably is. Now that discussion recently was demons, not Satan. But boy, isn't that if demons are Satan's opinions,   then isn't that accurate distributors of wealth   where they've turned this thing in, where they take our wealth from our future, they turn it into something that's present,   they add layers upon layers upon layers of compound interest to enrich themselves,   and at the same time, they enslave you.   Mhmm. Folks, that's slick right there.   They never expected anybody to figure it out.   That's what it said in William Colonel House's note to Woodrow Wilson.  

And if somebody, one in a million, does figure it out,   we've got plausible deniability. Well, no. You don't.   There is no plausible deniability.   We've got the whole damn entire scheme. We know who initiated it. We know why. We know how not only did they initiate it, Gary, but we know how to flawlessly   get out of it where they can't say a damn word. Now that's pretty slick too. Yes, Gary.  

[01:38:16] Unknown:

You're speaking of demons.   Today's churches do not touch on demonology.   However,   if you study the scriptures,   you'll find out that one third of gene Jesus' ministry   was on demons.   Yet the churches.   Oh yeah. Yeah. The churches don't believe they exist   and don't teach that they exist.   But the fact is they do exist and they do influence people.  

[01:38:45] Unknown:

Well, are the demons the Jews that are Satan's minions here at the core group of this bunch?  

[01:38:51] Unknown:

Well, that's one of them, but there's actual spiritual demons that people are unaware of  

[01:38:57] Unknown:

because the churches do not teach about technology.  

[01:39:00] Unknown:

I'm sure that I'm sure that's probably true. There's another dimension that has become pretty clear that there is one.  

[01:39:08] Unknown:

But Jesus's ministry was one third   concerning demons,   yet we don't touch them in today's society.  

[01:39:19] Unknown:

Well, that's how they keep this thing going on is ignorance.   Fortunately, for us, they're being exposed. They're being exposed thanks to things like we do,   not to the extent that we would like at this point, but other things are exposing them also. They're kinda exposing themselves   in many instances because as Anne Rand,   who was a Jewess, who used to be a a Rothschild concubine,   as she said, there are no such things as inconsistencies.   No. There are no such things as contradictions.   Not inconsistencies,   contradictions.  

There are no such things as contradictions,   and they have to have contradictions to build their house lies and their illusion, and that's   crumbling right now. Yes, Gary.  

[01:40:10] Unknown:

Well, and you mentioned the Jews.   The Jews are antichrist.   Is it plainly states in the New Testament   that all that but do not believe in Jesus are antichrist?   Okay. So they're, therefore, they're antichrist,  

[01:40:25] Unknown:

and they're our label them. They're our adversary.   That label them. Well, they're not only our enemies according to Thessalonians   three. I wish somebody give me that verse. I just heard it recently for the first time. According to Thessalonians   three something,   they're the enemies of all mankind.   My gosh, they are.   I don't like them. I know you're listening. You're the enemies of all mankind, you Christ killing bastards.   And you know what? You finally   got   the real deep power exposed.   We got it. You know we got it too, don't you? Which means you you knew that you were scamming and lying and thieving the whole time, didn't you?   So don't try this.  

You did this intentionally.   This is why people have hated you for centuries   is because of things like this and and others,   and we ain't letting up. You've been exposed. It's gonna catch up with you. Samuel?  

[01:41:30] Unknown:

Yeah. There's a book on the subject written by doctor Michael s Heizer. It's called the unseen realm,   and the subtitle   is recovering the spiritual   worldwide   view of the Bible, the supernatural world. I mean, this is there's two sides out there too, good and bad, and, they're right   in the wheelhouse of the Old Testament.   And, of course, Jesus discussed it many times.  

[01:42:02] Unknown:

Yeah.   Well, they're getting exposed day by day,   little by little.   It's affecting a whole new they they say   you can't find anybody 30   that's gonna support Israel unless they're Jews.   K? It is a big backlash coming against these people, and that's why they're trying to negotiate   this twenty year deal. Have you heard about that, Samuel?   They're trying to negotiate instead of this annual stuff with Israel. They're trying to,   negotiate past some twenty year,   obligational   thing that they're gonna get through because they know they're about to get backlash when this baby boomer generation   has all been,   a spoon fed pablum of dispensationalism   and aided up hook, line, and sinker. Oh, the rapture. Doesn't matter. I'm a be raptured out of here.  

Sure, captain. Sure you are.   K? All the people that bought all that   Christian Zionist crap,   well, a lot of those people are even stopping their donations to Israel now.   But once those guys are gone, these younger generations coming up, and you ain't gonna be getting   too many how you doing, hope everything's alright,   at the, Matzah Bar. Yes, Gary.  

[01:43:26] Unknown:

Just for your information, that's 20,000,000,000   a year for twenty years is what they're trying to get passed for   defense of Israel. Yeah. Military defense.  

[01:43:37] Unknown:

Defense.   After they go around and stir all that crap everywhere. It's for defense.   I heard a I heard a rabbi say one time, Said all we have to use the word all we have to do is use the word defense, and it freezes them in their tracks.   The game is words, folks.   The game is words.   So, where else can we go here in the last minutes of the show today?   Is there somebody that's just been   dying to say something? Project. A little bit concerned. Well, there's a female, I think. Yes, ma'am?  

[01:44:15] Unknown:

Hi. Alma here.   Alma.   Hi. Buenos. How are you doing?  

[01:44:23] Unknown:

Bien?  

[01:44:26] Unknown:

I have a question,   about the deductions on medical and Medicare   on the   yeah. Like, those are taxes as well. Right? Because   once, you know, the w four exempt,   kicks in, then that should go away as well   or it stays.   Do do you or somebody here in the audience know?  

[01:44:53] Unknown:

Yeah. I don't know. I've never had any of that stuff taken out of mine because I'm outside the country.   And I don't,   you know, I just don't really like doctors too much, generally. Trust them. Mhmm.   So,   you know, they'll tell you to go get that damn shot. You're gonna go trust that guy?   I don't know, see. They should I I just flat don't know Alma.   Gary, you got something for Alma here?  

[01:45:22] Unknown:

Yeah. Those deductions stay because those are voluntary deductions   for your   elderly retirement.   They're not, they are taxes.   They're not taxes in the way that income tax is.   Right. But the social security is It's going  

[01:45:40] Unknown:

no. It's going into your it's going into your social security or FIFO and you can't stop them from taking that out, Alma.  

[01:45:49] Unknown:

Because I was reading that it's, like the Medicare.   It's a hospital insurance type of thing. It says that,   it's part of the Federal Insurance Contribution   Act. Yes, ma'am. Uh-huh. It sounded to me like it was, like, a tax and probably will go away. But then,   it it but it's voluntary? Then if it's voluntary, then then it can be opt out probably?  

[01:46:17] Unknown:

You might, you might be able to opt out of it when you start collecting Social Security. I I don't know.   Because I'm outside the country, I've just never had to deal with it. K? I've never paid it. I just opted out at the first and I don't want it. So,   if I did want it, they'd take something out of what they do send me every month.   And,   I it's just an area, you know, nobody's really ever honestly delved into that that I can remember very much, Alma. Mhmm.  

[01:46:48] Unknown:

I'm okay.  

[01:46:49] Unknown:

Yeah. Hello? I think they're business. I   I think they're included under FIFO, which is Social Security,   and not under just general withholding.   I think. I just don't know. Anybody give us any guidance here?  

[01:47:07] Unknown:

Well,   those dirty rascals tried to steal some slave shackles out of my socialist security,   when I was first starting to get it. And it was like pulling teeth to get them to stop, but I finally did. You've gotta fill out some paperwork and have it witnessed and all this and that happy work, Puffy, but   it can be done.  

[01:47:28] Unknown:

I think that's an option when you start drawing,   but I believe they're going to take it anyway, Alma. But just flat just just an area we don't have any expertise in, really.  

[01:47:42] Unknown:

I see that. Yeah. Because I was thinking, you know, now with the well, my husband, as you probably remember,   I have a a ten ninety nine.   So Yeah. But my husband, he gets a w two. And now that he's presenting to his employer with the the w four,   with the exempt,   in,   were written,   on on that paper,   then,   I those questions pop in my head if that will go away or we would need to, like, write to someone   telling them that we just or not we, but my husband doesn't want that.   You know? Because like you said, we we are not fair enough doctors either. So we have our our, you know, like,   own ways of finding,   holistic, you know, practitioners.  

And,   so that is, like, to us, like, money that is gone out of our, out of our pockets.   And if we can give money, it'll be, you know, fantastic.  

[01:48:47] Unknown:

I understand. Let me, make a proper suggestion here that you're a regular listener.   If Mark comes on with us on Wednesday,   ask Mark that question. He may have some more insight into it that I don't have. Okay?   Okay. I will definitely. Alright. Okay. Great, Alma. Well, thank you so much. We don't get stumped very often. Alma stumped the band here today.   Good work.   We'll, we'll   try and find out if we got more information on that area.   You know, you could also literally call the Social Security,   HHS and ask them   if you wanna they may not know either. You know?  

Because as it this is all dictated by Obamacare,   I believe.   But in Obamacare,   nonresident   aliens were exempt.   K? But I remember that, Paul, from back when that was an active,   initiative.   And there was somebody that was doing a video and reading through it,   you know, and and and and different pages of it. He goes, and nonresident   aliens are exempt.   He just, of course, had no idea what he was saying. You know? And he took great umbrage to it.   So now you have to do submit an application. You could be one too.   Alma listened for for our, and Wills, hopefully, he's got some more insight. Anything else?  



[01:50:24] Unknown:

No. No. That was just that question that came up to my to my head. Thank you very much as always, and I appreciate everything you do for all of us.  

[01:50:33] Unknown:

Well, I I thank you very much. And, you know, I'm I'm I try and be as honest with you as I can.   I'll answer a question, but if I don't know, I'm just gonna tell you I don't know.   So, but fortunately, we've got this brain trust here with these other people with, sometimes vast experience that may can answer it. So   another reason to bring these types of situations to the air. Thank you, Alma.   Thank you. Alright.   Did you go to paralegal   school,   Alma, or do you just kind of fall into that job?  

[01:51:07] Unknown:

No. I did go to a school, and I got a degree as a paralegal.   And I decided that I was going to do to do my my work in immigration immigration law. Because the other ones I couldn't, you know, deal with, you know, separation of families, like, you know, family law or criminal law is so so strong. So I just figured that I couldn't handle,   you know, that. So I figure   immigration loan to life, you know, had clients coming into the office crying and saying ice came in,   scared my family in the middle of the night,   you know, like, open the door and scare my kids, woke us all up,   trying to find someone,   you know, that we don't even know. But then they took my husband because it it you know, things like that. So I will come home Yeah. Crying, you know, for these people. So yeah. Right. So I figured that, okay. That's a strong as well.  



[01:52:04] Unknown:

Uh-huh. Might as well be family law.   Yeah. What was that? I was gonna ask you something.   So you did get your paralegal degree. Well, that's good.   Mhmm. Great. We're glad to have you on board with that kind of knowledge and background,   Alma.  

[01:52:22] Unknown:

Oh, alright. So, you know, like, it's been it's been a long time. You know, I've been Uh-huh.   Mom for, I will say, about,   my son was, like, three and a half years of age. My Ricardo,   the one that is 15, he will be 16 soon.   So Right. I've been here, you know, for   more than ten years. So that I Okay. You know, that I choose to leave that   and then do other things.  

[01:52:49] Unknown:

We're so glad you found us.   We're welcoming you to the family. That I found you.   Oh, Wahid, was that you trying to say something? Every day.   Yes. Well, thank you. Okay. Let's see what Wahid has here, Alma. Yes. Wahid. Yes. Yes.  

[01:53:07] Unknown:

Roger,   there's a black lady. She's talking you know how they say the Somalis   in Minnesota?   The Somalis in Minnesota are nothing compared to the Somalis in Ohio.   This black lady said 80%   of the section eight housing,   the food stamps, and everything is being   drained by them. She says they own   they own all kinds of breast fry. They have three or four wives   that can also apply.   She's just telling the most.   And she says that,   oh god. I'm gonna put it in the chat. Okay.   Take care.  

[01:53:45] Unknown:

Well, okay. Well, yes, the Somalis are getting to be a big and a visible problem   where Trump's getting up in front of the nation in one of his cabinet meetings and calling them trash.   They've embezzled over $3,000,000,000   in these little, like, one of them is for mental health of Somalis or something.   And and three or four people go and they get these big grants and they just steal them. And then they take a big percentage of the money they've stolen and they send it back to the pirates in Somalia.   And evidently, it's you know, we just I'm sorry. That sounds harsh.   They were brought here by the communist with the intent of disrupt helping to destroy our country.  

We need to get in there. And if there are any good ones, let them stay.   Grab all the bad ones, which seem to be the predominant number from their culture, and send their ass back to Somalia.   I'm all for it.   All for it.   Somalia is strictly a warlord territory. It's nothing I I can't. They have And Al Raheeb, I don't I don't give a flying crap what it is. Send them back to it.   Let them go straighten it out.   The o harm meme is is related to one of the royal families in that bunch of thieves.   Married her brother to get him into the country.   So, yeah, it's ugly. I I I can't imagine Trump's day.  

He's he's working twenty hours a day, they say.   And I can understand why. Look at this myriad of these serious ass problems   that these communists have left our country   with.   It's   I'm telling you, they they they need to be taken out of the gene pool.   It's like in Shanghai in 1929.   Shit, take them out in the street and put a bullet in the back of their head. You can't convert them. K?   I that sounds harsh. I know it does. Well, how about a 100,000,000,   20,000,000 or more people getting killed by the son of a bitches in the last century. That sounds kinda harsh to me.   You're gonna get my dyer, my aunt dander   up right here before we leave the show, Wahid. What else? Can anybody brighten my day a little bit as we close out?  



[01:56:11] Unknown:

I can say categorically   that,   anybody that's looking for Carol Quigley's   Tragedy and Hope,   anybody that's looking for Tragedy and Hope one zero one,   or anybody that's looking for,   the unseen realm,   mentioned by Samuel. You will find those up in the recents folder up in Google Drive.   Docs.exposethematrix.com.  

[01:56:43] Unknown:

Wow, man. Thank you. But what an addition to the program and what I do, Paul, is,   and and and and and Mark and some of the all of you for sure, but these specialty people that come on and, like with Paul, add   with so much dimension to the show with his technical knowledge.   So,   we sure do appreciate Sarah sending us to you, Paul.  

[01:57:08] Unknown:

Well, thank you, Rich.  

[01:57:10] Unknown:

Yeah. Well, I mean, I don't   know where we'd be if you hadn't come along with all these changes, Skype and all the other crap we've had to deal with.   And you've helped us persevere through all of us, put us on good   solid things that work the vast majority of the time just flawlessly.   And, we appreciate your efforts, man.   Well, I've I've I never asked you I make mistakes here and there.   You take it on your own initiative and go. You and I work pretty good as a as an on air broadcast   duo. I like, like what you add and bring very much. And and, just a real, everybody's got an addition or contribution, but, man, Paul's has been substantial. And you've   gotten over there on the other side and gotten hooked up with Paul English. Y'all become good friends and helping over there on his deal and a very integral member of the family, Paul.  

So thank   you so much. You know what we need to do, especially for Oliver?   One one day we need to switch out the intro and do Lorena McKinnon.   So   Yeah. Throw a throw a Sunday. Fastball up to him.   Okay. Well, that's the end of the show. The whistler's there. If you didn't ask your question, shame on you.   The good news is we'll be back tomorrow.   You can get the courage up to open the mic and go, Roger, I got a question,   and we will do our very best to answer it either personally or collectively   because that's what we're here for.   So,   anyway, Monday, our Monday show's about over. We'll look for the ninth tomorrow.  

Don't know what's gonna happen today. There's a lot of big things on the on the burners. That's for sure.   And,   gosh, we'll just see here. Holiday season.   Couple of weeks till Christmas and New Year's, and then it'll be behind us.   And we're gonna be in the next year. Next year's gonna be a real stemliner,   especially in the financial markets.   So thank you Thank you. And, appreciate you listening.   We're gonna sachet off and get some things done.   Hopefully positive,   and we will,   keep a close here to the ground on things that are happening so that tomorrow when I ask if there's anybody who wanna say anything and none of you wanna say anything, I can fill in easier.   So So I'm gonna do that this afternoon.  

You guys have a wonderful day.   Thank you for spending your time with us. Hope you got something out of it. Lee, nice to meet you. See you tomorrow.   Ciao.  

[01:59:56] Unknown:

I'm I'm thinking I'm also going to,   throw,   the books of Enoch, a complete volume containing,   the four books or the three books. The Apocrypha.   The   Lost Prophet, The Book of Enoch and Its Influence on Christianity,   Supernatural,   What the Bible Teaches About the Unseen World and Why It Matters, and   Book of Enoch by Charles r h Charles.   I'll throw those up there too.  

[02:00:28] Unknown:

Good deal.   Okay. Well, I'm gonna go dart off and visit the little room, first of all, and then   go about my day, love each and every one of you, and I will look absolutely forward and be thinking all day   about things that we can discuss and talk about tomorrow.  

[02:00:48] Unknown:

So Roger.  

[02:00:50] Unknown:

Yes, ma'am?  

[02:00:53] Unknown:

Tomorrow,   can we address the revocation of election?  

[02:00:59] Unknown:

As to the, you mean,   addressing the IRS for refunds   or Yes. Just separating   well, we can. I can tell you what we know about it. You know, we don't pursue it too much anymore, it's Muse. Right?   Because we've been so   Annie, because we've been so unsuccessful   at it.   Okay. I I mean, we have had a couple of people. I had another one the other day that sounds like,   in the email that she might could get something   out of there because it was taken out, and she's never filed a ten forty against it. So it's sitting there, and she should be able to change status   and do it and get at least that part that hadn't been filed against back.  

Okay. So I'll tell you what. Once you look at that   once you wait till Wednesday, we'll see if Mark will join us. Because he's the one that's been actively involved in this. I can tell you about the background and the theory and all that,   but, he's he's the guy.   Okay? And you need to send me an email, girly girly. Okay? Yes. Yes. Absolutely. I will do that.  

[02:02:05] Unknown:

Okay.  

[02:02:07] Unknown:

Thank you. Well, okay. You're welcome, sweetie, as always.   So let's see if I can get out of here. There we go. Alright. Off to the bathroom. See you tomorrow.  

[02:02:20] Unknown:

Take care, Raj. Roger, breaking news.   Major earthquake in Japan today.   Two foot wave tsunami,   fires   damaged buildings.   I didn't hear the   the magnitude of the earthquake, though. They just it's just reported just now on ABC News. I hadn't heard it at all, and I've had radio on all day.  

[02:02:46] Unknown:

So, anyway,  

[02:02:49] Unknown:

that's all I got.  

[02:02:52] Unknown:

Thanks, Steve.  

[02:02:54] Unknown:

Yep. I just I just wanted to say something about Michael Heizer. What what started him off on his journey is a bible scholar, multiple languages. And   one of his colleagues challenged him to get out his Hebrew bible and read Psalms 82.   That's what got him to pursue   this unseen realm, and   he's written,   you know, probably a half dozen books or more on the subject. And,   and the other thing is regarding the book of Enoch,   The only part of that that was found in the Dead Sea Scrolls is the beginning, the first book.   The rest of it,   take with a grain of salt.  

And that's where you find the,   also the,   the New Testament quotes   of Enoch is, from the first book.  

[02:04:19] Unknown:

Now this information that you are,   putting,   is it in the matrix docs or it's somewhere else? So I can look that up.  

[02:04:31] Unknown:

It will be in docs dot expose to matrix.com.   No. In the recents folder. Okay.  

[02:04:40] Unknown:

Recents folder.   Okay. Thank you.  

[02:05:07] Unknown:

There's something in the chat for you, Paul.  

[02:05:27] Unknown:

I have to get a clear window.  

[02:05:31] Unknown:

In in the story of Daniel, you all might remember,   Daniel asked for   help from God, and   it's delayed by thirty days.   Gabriel is sent,   but he is opposed by the prince of Persia,   and it took the assistance of Michael,   the ultimate archangel,   to break that. That's how powerful   these princes   are   that God's talking about in Psalms 82.   That he will destroy   like men is what Psalms 82 says.  

[02:06:23] Unknown:

That's backed up by Ephesians six   also.   However,   in Ephesians six and the King James, it's powers powers and principalities   and something.   But in the Geneva Bible,   it adds   government is also in there   in Ephesians six.  

[02:06:52] Unknown:

Hey.  

[02:07:00] Unknown:

Hey, Gary.  

[02:07:07] Unknown:

Yeah, Joan.  

[02:07:10] Unknown:

Do you know where in the Bible   it says   I think you said it says Jesus said Jews who don't believe in Jesus   are antichrist.  

[02:07:24] Unknown:

Antichrist. Say Jew. It just said it just says those that don't believe in Jesus are antichrist.   And know right off the top of my head, I don't know where,   but it's in the New Testament.  

[02:07:37] Unknown:

I'm gonna look for it. Thank you.  

[02:07:40] Unknown:

You're welcome.  

[02:07:47] Unknown:

Hey. I have a quick question.   This is Debbie Nugent.   Has anybody encountered   the incoming   of Global or   DID?  

[02:08:09] Unknown:

What? The digital ID?  

[02:08:12] Unknown:

Digital ID.   I know airports are now   trying to use it.   I know you have rights to say no,   but the stores are also starting to go that way   where I'm at.   Matter of fact, Kroger   is using it, and they're gonna be using digital pricing   based on what they find, I guess, from the servers.   They're going to charge everybody different prices   for groceries.   I mean, it's   Home Depot   is starting,   so is Lowe's.   I've just noticed it here.   And I'm in Georgia.  

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That I don't know.   Sounds to me like, I'm not gonna be shopping at Home Depot or Lowe's anymore.  

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I think 20 states have shifted over to   the digital ID. I know California is one of them.  

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A lot of the red states have shifted and sent a wallet to people's telephone.   However, I have an open mind.  

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You know, for some reason,   I didn't,   I re upped on my driver's license   probably about a year ago.   It was still optional.   So how California   can now   universally   nail everybody with it? I'm   a little confused on the the details of that, but   I know that they're one of the states that have implemented it.  

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So does Georgia. It's rural ID,   and I think Florida is another state,   and maybe Texas as well.  

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Maybe it'll be like Budweiser   lite   and nobody will   buy there.   And then they'll either   get rid of digital IT   or either they'll go out of business.  

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Well, I'm hearing it's widely used right now at the airports,   and people are stepping right into the system.  

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I sidestepped   that last time I was at the airport. I   stepped aside from that.  

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You pick up the phone. I said no.  

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Yes.  

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Step right up. Step right up. Get your vaccines here. Get your COVID shots. 50¢ on a dollar.  

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Exactly.  

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I don't know if Sheldon's here, but he sent me a piece on that a couple of days ago. Maybe he could   post it   to minister talking about the ramifications of that. This   is a guy who's, sort of an international traveler and,   was a real interesting piece on the subject.  

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Well, right now, you can push back   and,   use   your passport,   but I don't know how long you can do that.   They try to tell you it's mandatory,   but it's not.  

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Paul?  

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Yeah. Sheldon.  

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May I please something, please?   It's short.  

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Did you, send me something? My phone just went click by click. May I play  

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may I play something, please, about the digital ID? It is short.  

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Yeah. Try a couple of seconds of it first to see what it sounds like   before you, like, start go all the way through because it might sound horrible.  

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Here you go. You tell me.  

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States.   How switched that digital ID? The real IDs, the digital IDs.  

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Can you hear that?  

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Yeah. But it sounds it sounds pretty bad. But,   is that something that you downloaded locally, or is that a link?  

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No. It's something I pulled off of,   one of the pages.   I'm about an inch from the mic,   so I can't do much on this end.  

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Alright. Well, give it a shot.  

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Yeah.  

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Yeah.   The following states.   Digital ID.   Digital ID.   It's Arkansas, Arizona, California, Colorado, Georgia,   Hawaii, Iowa, Louisiana, Maryland,   Montana, New Mexico, New York, Ohio, Utah, Virginia,   West Virginia, and Puerto Rico.   These states have already digitized the Real ID system,   and it's being rolled out in the other states.   And because many of the states didn't want to do this from 2005   to 2020,   when the act was voted  

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That's fading out.   Is there any way you can send that to me?  

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It's in the middle of the sermon. I'm   Send you a link to the sermon.   It'll have to be an email.   Okay. And I'll send you a time stamp.  

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Alright.   Perfect.  

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Sorry about that. I'm done.  

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Yeah. It's Hey. How will   sorry.  

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It started working, but then it faded out over time.  

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Yeah. Kind like me. Take care.  

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Alright.  

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Hey, Paul.   Yeah.   I did   research on this rule ID.   You cannot get out of it.   They will not allow you to.  

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Well  

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Whoever   Rand Paul is trying to   bring it to the floor   to get it appealed   because I've already called his office.  

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Well, if they're forcing you to accept a real ID, then,   they're,   forcing you   into   contract   under  

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duress Right. We need  

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over to you. We need to know how to handle that.  

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Well, just tell them they can't do it.   Threat, duress, coercion.  

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I went to the DMV   and told them I didn't want it. They told me they couldn't do anything about it.  

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Did you speak to the supervisor?  

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I spoke to who they referred me to,   and I told them I did not want a real ID.   And   they said all of Georgia, because I'm in Georgia, had to have a real ID.   There was no way out.   Now   I don't know who I would go to above that,   but   I'm thinking you'd have to send   maybe an affidavit somewhere or declaration   or something   to say You have a pass  

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you have a passport card?   You have a passport card?   That should that should suffice.  

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Okay.   Well, I'll use that as my driver's license.   But the question is, how do you keep these stores   and everything else   from scanning you   biometrics.  

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You sound disappointed in having to use your passport card for a driver's license in place of a driver's license.  

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Right. We're talking biometrics   Jesus. Scanning Fucking crack.  

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But you were just talking about.  

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At some point, my research told me they were gonna shut your bank account down and everything else   without a digital ID.  

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Close your bank account. Take all your money out, and tell them to shove it up where the sun don't shine.   That's what everybody should do.   I'm wearing iron and wear an iron mask too.  

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Uh-huh. And I'll I know how to produce legal documents. If you don't know, learn.  

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My understanding passport  

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passport website says that the passport card is for all land   travel.  

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Eight one zero three My understanding is that the if you'd in California, anyway, if you didn't   want   the, real ID   and you needed to travel,   where that was gonna get you on a plane, the passport would suffice.  

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No. I agree with the travel,   but I'm talking about other   things as well.   Grocery store   or whatever.  

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Why do you gotta show them your driver's license at the grocery store?  

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You don't. They're scanning you.  

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Scanning you?   How?  

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Okay. They have cameras.   I watched a thing on Kroger.   They have cameras now in Kroger that they're putting up,   and they're doing a digital pricing   on all of their prices.   And they're going to be charging   you by their  

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biometrics   scanning.   Pay   cash and wear your you know, that COVID mask?   Wear it.   Wear your mask.  

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Wow. The COVID mask.  

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You also have to, shield your eyes,   and, Wear a burka. Because,  

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dark sunglasses.  

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No. No. No. No. No. No. Dark sunglasses don't do it. They have to be   another type of filter glasses.   And I forget what type it is.   But they will completely block out your eyes to the biometric scanners.  

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Yeah. We need to know,   I mean, this is getting pretty,   obvious where I'm at.  

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Well, do like I do and just keep your eyes closed. 917893  

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Yeah.  

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What the hell happened to Georgia?  

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We got the wrong people running the show.  

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That's not turned over to Georgia.  

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But it's not just Georgia. It's a lot of states.  

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I wanna know what innocent men they hung.  

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Glad you got it, Paul.  

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I  

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got  

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that. Does the sheriff in the town's got bloodstains on his hands?   Yeah. That's the rest of the song.  

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Yes. I I I remember well.  

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Mhmm.  

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Not they hung an innocent  

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man.  

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I'm reading here an old article about three months ago.   It said without   their real ID, travelers will have to bring a passport or another form of federal   ID in order to port any flight in The US.   So you if you don't want to have that,   digital ID,   you could use your passport based on this.  

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Sounds like when it Oh, I'm sorry, Paul.  

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No. She's talking about out in Georgia.  

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Deal. He was in a bind as he was way behind as he was willing to make a deal.  

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Jesse, she's talking about being biometrically   scanned in the stores   and charged differently   based on,   I guess, whether she has it or doesn't have it.   Is that correct?  

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Well, I think they're   getting all of our   information with this Palantir with all these data centers.  

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Well, you know, Michigan has laws about,   grocery   stores   charging, you know, putting prices on items and on the on the rack,   below the item. And if it's wrong and you go through the scanner and, you know, to pay, and it doesn't say what it said on the,   on the rack where you picked it up. If the price changes or whatever, that's illegal, and they gotta pay you five times the face value that it's wrong.   So I don't see how they can get away with that crap.  

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Well, if they go digital, you're not gonna know what they put the price out to be.  

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Well, if the price is absorbent   you know what? When you pick up the product,   you know, you're not gonna you're not gonna buy it.  

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Right.   But you don't want them to have your biometrics.  

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Go to the farmer's market and,   check out, eatwild.com.   Eatwild.com.   Eatwild.com.  

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David, used to be that if they didn't have a price   shown   on the product, it was illegal.   Now it's hard to find a price.  

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Well, that's still illegal here in Michigan.   Yeah. You gotta deal with local farmers and, you know,   farmers markets and   screw them them corporate,   behemoths.   They're they should be done as far as we're concerned.  

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By the way, they're getting that data years and years ago. Many stores like Home Depot and many grocery stores and Walmart, when you go in the self center   aisle, they have that little camera. They're taking   every part of your   body, your face, biometric, and all those cameras that you see in every aisle.   Like, there's a store in the South. It's a public stores.   It gives you the creeps. Like, they have three or four cameras in every aisle.   So they've been taking   all this data.  

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Jesse, in regard to what you're saying,   what's the video that the other day   that showed how Walmart   does the biometrics on you when you walk in the store? They do it from the front and from the   back.   And if they can't identify you   in some way,   they will send one of their   goons   to hunt you down and   make contact with you and get your biometrics   and find out who you are and what you're about.   So what you're saying   goes along with   other things that I've heard.   And supposedly, even Walmart is just one of them.  

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And Joe   And even if you're paying cash, they already know who you are when you go through that.   Yeah. Even if you pay cash, they already know who you are. Yes. Yes.  

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But   but   at our ekklesia yesterday,   one of the fellows brought a mask.   And   he he presented himself to the group and,   you know, and we were all visiting one thing back and forth. He went back to the bathroom. When he came back out, he was wearing a hoodie. And he had a stretch over mask   that was spooky as hell. You could see he said he could see through it. A little bit hazy,   but he could see through it.   I'm wondering if person had to start had not to start wearing   one of them.  

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And the good thing in my case that I've been traveling to to through many different states   and,   90% of time. And then, and, I do go to church, to a local church,   and, even if I have never been there.   And,   and it gives you the creep because everybody are just   following.   They're self serving and   and,   they use their room and 13,   whatever the government tells them to do. Yep. Some some places, some state like Missouri, they're still using the masks. They believe everything they tell them.   And,   yesterday, I went to a church,   and this, this woman   yeah. Go ahead.  



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But this was a stretchy mask. You pulled a car over your head,   and it had a face printed on it.   And, it was pretty spooky. He he did that to his grandkids, and grand the grandkids said, grandpa, please don't do that anymore.   Like, wear a pantyhose. Yeah. It was it was similar to a pantyhose with a face painted on it. Mhmm. Hey. I hope that doesn't work. Remember  

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remember beneath the planet of the eighth when they had the mutants,   and they were in, their jerk.   And they said, I reveal myself to my true god. And then in chorus, they went,   oh, mighty   bomb.  

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Yeah. It was the big the the nuclear,   the payload.  

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What what the heck do they call that thing?  

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Anyway, yeah, it was a missile with a with a nuke on it. Jesse, I apologize for in interrupting you. No.  

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No. I would say seven out of 10, seriously, they've been I'd say in the last two, three years have been 50   different states.   And, seven out of 10 already have video cameras.   Not just facing the preacher, but, it's just, depending   the quality and the   and the resources,   but usually two or three.   And, I do ask   I said, why are you having oh, for safety.   And I go, doesn't your left hand does not supposed to know what your right hand is doing? You know? What happens? We just wanna come and worship here in private.   And, well, we do this usually   basically, they don't know what to answer me. Usually, it's just for safety. And, I think the population is already programmed to use this digital   and video cameras. It's in a new generation, they're just always looking down to   that little video camera called a smartphone.  



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Oh, at my workplace, they just put cameras in two of our small buses,   and I've been in one of them, you know, the past couple of days,   and they're looking at everything the driver does.   We are monitored.   You know, looking down at a phone,   being distracted,   and it's filming forward and it's filming the passengers.   It's  

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I don't worry about Do you wanna limit what they can do?  

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Do you really need to worry about it? We're gonna be like China.  

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So do you wanna violate the first amendment,   the constitution?   I   mean, it's   it's a public area.   Don't get on the bus.  

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Well, it's not a city bus. It's, you know, for the Grand Canyon tour,   and   they're saying, oh, it's for if accidents happen, and we can show that, you know, the driver was in the right or whatever.   That   ruse. But   they kinda needed those cameras for years now because passengers do get out of line,   and they try and say, oh, the driver was rude to me, and the driver was anything but rude to them.   So   other   purposes. No.  

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I mean, I'm I'm more I'm more cautious about using my pass port to go to the airport   and them asking me for my picture at the airport. That's when I'm cautious about it, and I won't allow that to happen. You know? I think we need to   we need to be cautious of what they're doing,   but   they're gonna if they haven't gotten already, they're gonna get your   informa you're gonna get your biometrics.   It's what it's gonna be.   But if you're out in public, I mean, that's   the right that's the right of public.   I can go to the Grand Canyon and take my camera out, picture anybody I want.  

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Stopping   the, biometric scans,   particularly of the eyes, you need IR   filtered   glasses.   So the mask that the nylon mask with the face painted on it,   that is not good enough because an IR camera   will shoot right through that.  

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So I just put a in for a guy   that's a doctor,   and he spent the money to buy all these glasses and tested every one of them. The link is the last one.   The first one I put in, Paul,   I've gotta locate the segment, but that is   the whole talk is about the UN,   when they started, what they're up to. It's pretty in-depth.   I'm gonna continue to find that thing about the real ID for you. I'm done.  

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What about where did you send that? Where did you send that to?  

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The chat link, PPRN,   has the research on how to block facial scans, and the one above that is the sermon I've gotta   go through.   K. It's all about the UN. So quite concise.  

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I'm done. You say YouTube video. Right?  

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Both are yes.  

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Both of them. So there's two.  

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And it's talking about cracker.  

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Yes. It is. That's why I put it in there. I watched that about five days ago. I can only do one thing at a time here, either talk, be on the Internet, or send something.   So it's taken me a while. I'm sorry.  

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We appreciate the info.  

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I'm working on getting it.  

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Do better.  

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Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. It's   what I do.  

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Okay. So No. That's meant for Sheldon.  

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Hey. Got nothing else to do but counts of raindrops.  

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Oh, no.  

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How many are you up to now?  

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Well,   my readout only goes to eight digits, so I'm gonna have to take my shoes off, I think.   Because there's   10 more digits there.  

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So Jody about   Joe   Jody, did you get that piece I sent you on King Ranch,   what they're doing to these poor old couple?   Good lord.   It's everywhere.  

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Yes. I did.   And, you know They're not   You you tell these stories to people   and show them the evidence,   and they just blow it off.   They just blow it off because,   well,   nothing I can do about it.  

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Boy. I need to stand up.  

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And it and it sounds what's really sick about it is they're targeting   older ranchers   because they figure they won't fight as hard as a younger rancher?  

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On a separate topic,   what's, I'm I'm gonna be sending a notice out to the IRS   that I'm tax exempt.  

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And  

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where do I want to send that to?   There's two different places that I think I'm supposed to send it.  

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If you're a national, why would you need to to send out that notice   other than send them your affidavit?  

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Well, you would   if they sent you a letter  

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for sure. Well, they sent me a letter saying they'll put they'll put it in my administrative file,   but   they didn't confirm.   There was no confirmation   that I was tax exempt.  

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Did you mention,   title twenty six one point one dash one a?  

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Not in my original one. My original one was very quick,   one, two sentence   structure of who I am and what I am.  

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Well,   probably your notice to them should have stated all that,   and,   that should have been your premise.  

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Roger doesn't have that in his notice.  

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It's in the matrix doc   in the example.  

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Example is  

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one sentence,  

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and it's  

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Mine's a couple of information.   Yeah. Mine's a couple of, paragraphs   that were on there.  

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So nobody's certain on where I should send it?  

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There are several addresses,   so   I would wait and see if they send you a letter   needing it   Or ask Roger.  

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Samuel.  

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Yeah.  

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Do you know William Pinder?  

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I don't think so. No. He was  

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he was the first,   English translator of the Bible.   So,  

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oh. Yeah. I didn't hear hear you clearly. English.   Too. Yeah. Okay.  

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Right.  

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It was mister Tyndale.   No.   Oh, there we go. How to block facial recognition cameras.   I love it.  

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Downloaded.   K.   Paul, can you hear me now?   Yeah. I hear you. Better my signal or no? Okay. Yeah. Yeah. I hear you. The name   the name of the guy is William Tyndale.   And he was the one that translate the the first that translate the Bible to English.  

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1611.   Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Yeah. And they burned him at the stake too because he did it.  

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Yes. Burned him because he translate the bible and asked for no one nobody to translate the bible.  

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Well, the Catholic church didn't want,   the parishioners to be able to read the bible themselves because   to their,   disinformation   and,   propaganda,   and they could completely   avoid,   passing the offering plate.   So oh, no. No. No. No. No. They've got to come to church. Amen. Amen.   They've got to come to church. We need their money. We need their indulgences.   We sell them tickets to heaven. If they have a copy of the Bible they could read, they don't need to buy a ticket.   Yeah. Greeting pastors.  

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Is  

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that true? Example of the next stop, you know?  

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Yeah. Well, is was the Catholic church what   what Jesus was talking about when he said the love of money is the root of all evil?  

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Probably.  

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I think so. Who left their door open?  

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Yeah. Sorry. I'm sorry.  

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Ding ding ding. Ding.   Ding.   I did very, very well overnight.   It was two degrees.   I left my little heater on low all night long, and my house never got below 67   degrees.   Gotta love that.  

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For you, Paul. Now I'm out here, busting my butt in this note.  

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The the King James version was sixteen eleven. Tyndale was something like fifteen thirty.  

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And So that's what he diagramed.   But they say that it's a translator. You he's translation.  

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Yeah. It's not too much of a 101 of the first   that Yes. He was the first.   That worked on the sixteen eleven   because they called the sixteen eleven   King James version the Tyndale edition.  

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Well, they used a lot of his translation is what they did.  

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Yeah. But he didn't have anything to do with the,   Geneva Bible, did he?  

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Well, they all relied on Tyndale quite a bit. Everything that came between Tyndale and the sixteen eleven, the King James,   I think there's five of five different translations total.   All of these,   were expanding on what Tyndale did, and I think the Geneva is the first one that put in the,   chapter and verse   significance,   which was a big improvement for a lot of people.   They all they all added something new and   increased it, until   you get this big group doing working together under   without persecution. A lot of these guys were working under persecution. Well, when when King James did this, he, he actually brought together the   the two sides that didn't particularly like each other much at all   and got them to do this, 47 of them,   all great scholars of the time   that actually conversed in things like,   Greek and Hebrew on a daily basis with each other.  

This just wasn't a language they had to look up.   They're familiar with it, and,   they had to be in complete agreement   on every chapter and verse.   And if they weren't, there was a footnote put in the bible that there was an outlier that had a, problem with   how it was being translated.   And that wasn't very often.   Sort of a miracle right there.   Yeah.  

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One one other reason  

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I'm just gonna stop talking about my heater. I just ran out of gas.   I'm gonna stop talking about it.   I gotta go out to my front hallway and get get another,   get another propane bottle.  

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One of the reason that Tindale got burned   in the beautiful fire   was because he   translated the English. Instead of putting shurst, he put   congregation.   Because based on congregation, that's why they brought the King James and   put a shurs because a shurs was controlled by the Roman Empire or the Roman Catholic.   And he and his,   his, way of looking at it is, first, you hear the word,   then you gain faith, and then   congregation comes out of the way. And the Catholic   will say, well, the church   was the ultimate authority   in Earth.  

So you would bring everybody by force, and they will have to hear the mass and lantern or whatever it is. And that's if you see all the correspondent back and forth,   that was one of many other reasons. But one of the main reasons,   he would not,   remove that   part of the translation.   And that's why the Geneva Bible had congregations instead of church.   He would say, what came first?   The word   or the church?   And they most of those Catholic and priestess, I think one's called more and more something like that, had tremendous of,   interaction with him back and forth.  



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Very interesting.  

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And that's why some   some of the   believers don't like the kingdom name, I think, by church instead of   congregating.  

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Hello?  

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Yes, sir. We hear you.  

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Oh, great. I hope I'm not interrupting anything.   It's very interesting conversation you're having there,   but, early translations.   I have, I have a couple of translations here myself. I've got the Geneva.   I have the 1611.   I have the Strong's Concordance.   I have a lot of things here. I have,   you know,   I have the Hebrew lexicon,   an English lexicon.   I have the the Sephir. I have a couple of translations here, you know.   You know,   I mean, I mean, the whole thing with the Bible is about submitting yourself to the authorities of this world of of our government, you know?   So that's in Romans. Yeah?  



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That came under the King James authorized by the king because they said the king had the authority and the church had the authority over over man. So the translation had to be,   and that way compared to the Geneva,   they said the only authority was, God.   And they,   and they also changed the word of, elder,   that you are under the authority of the elders of the church.   When you look at the original one supposedly,   elder means he was an elderly   person. So they'd say certain amounts of words or remove certain words that remove the authority from the people or the authority of God and put it under the clergy's or the priest or the king.   And that that's why he authorized,   I think it was 50 something,   to translate and,   accommodate   the authority of Matthew James.  



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Yeah.   I mean, if you change your status, you you're changing your government as well. I mean,   the   the state if you're a state citizen, you you have a different government to to president Trump. Is that not true?  

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Trump is a CEO of the corporation United States.  

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Yes. So if you place allegiance to a new ruler, it's gonna be different to to the corporation. Yeah?  

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I like the way, Raja says we're under now under God,   and and we have Yes. The god god given rights.  

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Yeah.   Yeah.   I mean, I mean, also, when when you think of the translations, you have to think about the churches that are five zero one c that that are, you know,   subsidized by the government   and get tax exempt for  

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No. Do you know what we'll be chasing those little deer?  

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No.  

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They're tax exempt.   So they're paid to whatever, not rock the boat really.  

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The bible also says you're not to serve two masters. And when these guys are breaking God's law, you really don't have a choice.  

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True. Very true.   Very true. Like,   especially the last five years ago, people were forced to get vaccinated.   I wasn't really for that at all, to be honest.  

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No. Samuel, you got a choice, but you have to deal with the consequences. You always have a choice.  

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Yeah.   True.  

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I I I actually   I I did see in the in the in the   Geneva Bible that there's a reference to the Jesuits in the Old Testament as well. The Jesuits   is mentioned in the Old Testament.  

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I like I like the King James, but you gotta be aware of all that   because the Geneva   is probably Yeah. It shouldn't never be able to translate it, but, but it's old English.  

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It's   old English. Yeah.   Hello? Is anyone still here?  

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Yeah. We're here.  

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Yeah. We're here. Hello? We're here. Oh, yeah. I I just wondered what your thoughts are on,   on the name   they   used for the Messiah and the creator.   I mean, do you still use,   JC, or do do you ever look into it other different names, or are you totally opposed to that whole idea? Or what what's your thoughts on that?  

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Well, my opinion, I just use the creator. That's it.   I don't use God or Jehovah or   Joshua   or Jesus. He's my creator. That's it. Jesse is a subtle man.  

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Don't always agree with him, but Jesse's a smart old man.   And I think he's a good man.  

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I'm not Jesse, but thank you. Thank you. I'm body body. Jesse is the other one that has an accent I make.  

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I think Yahoo is the proper translation. What does it say?  

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Yeah. I I agree with you about Yahoo also. Yeah. I I I've looked into this quite a bit, and,  

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I can't be wrong, obviously, but Yahoo. Knob there. When you put them on, put them on.   Like that.   And then   Mhmm.  

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You can even hear the You know? The the the the It's   complicated to know the truth because we've been lying so much that we don't even know what's up or what's down. You know?  

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But we we can't live the life, though. We can't live the life without knowing the name properly. You know?  

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The problem is is where your background comes or where you come. Is   it the name Hebrew   or Aramaic   or Greek   or Spanish and English.   So   during thousands of years,   that has got mixed up.   And,   so   I think you had to do something righteous and on your conscience and then, as you said,   do your own research, and,   we shouldn't criticize those. Some people don't like saying wrong word and no one doesn't.   In my case,  

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yeah. Sure. You're right about that.  

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So I'm not expert in that in language, but I know   that,   Spanish is Jesus.   English,   Jesus,   Emmanuel.   And some people said the Lord,   but they don't like because the Lord also a lot of the translation has,   English   and do we have the English language in the fifth century?   I don't think so.   So it was evolving into whatever the English form you have   today.   Spanish,   by a lot of here, has it's more close to the to the vulgar or the Latin or Greek compared to the English.   So it's more Quebec.   So, all depends.  

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But I believe that the word the letter j only came into the language in the fifteenth century.  

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Yeah. It came it came the j, supposedly came in the revised   King James in, I think, around 1780   because the original King James did not did not have the j.  

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Yeah. It was l. Right? Let's let   it was like it wasn't a j. I know that. It was. Right?  

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Yeah. Yeah. Greek   Greek Greek did not have a j on.  

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Yeah.   Yeah.  

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Yeah.   Yeah. I mean, there's there's so much about this out there. I I really think it's kind of important to me. The best I've heard is Yahweh. That was the best I've ever heard because I think it's a very similar translation from Greek to, Hebrew.   Yahweh.  

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And that's what when they said the king the king of Jews,   it was not really king of Jews, but the king of Judea,   that province and and,   that was under the control of Rome at that time when Jesus was there. So anybody could have been,   part of that population.   Could have been Greek. It could have been Romans.   It could have been   many others. So there was not only Jews in there.  

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Well, well, I mean Yes. The the idea that they use is the devil.   Yeah.  

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Yeah.   Definitely interesting.   I have to get more of I I'm always looking for more information about this topic.  

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But, you know, you gotta be careful. Who who are your enemy? You look at Matthew ten thirty four and Mark also. He says, you know, we don't follow God. You know? Sometimes we just follow our our our children,   our friends, our family.   And those are the one that, usually go against us when we start reassurances and   and, trying to grow spiritually,   looking for the truth.   Yeah. Sometimes your wife, sometimes your husband,   sometimes your kids,   your friend, your mother,   your coworkers, they don't understand,   becoming a national   or that you're trying to baptize   or you're trying to, evangelize.  

Because   the only people that have that seed of God in their heart that's looking for a true are the truth   finder. Let's put it that way. The truth seekers.  

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That's true, Jesse. Everybody   goes against   you. The only one in my family that   is with me is my nephew. He's a national too, and he understand. You know? But everybody else, they think they're uncooked me. They tell me, how nobody else wanna do this? See, this is so good.   And I explained to them that nobody wanna do it because nobody   understand that. Everybody's ignorant. You know? They don't got the truth in their heart.   Are   you?  

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There's a a group called the God Culture on YouTube. You can look at it. I don't know. They've probably got, like, 700 videos, so you can get lost in it. But,   they get into the name and spend several videos   on the translation and why it is you.   Yeah. And how it was always   God   never restricted his name like the the Pharisees wanna say and and   and don't wanna use it and hide it. I mean, it was   clearly   known to the patriarchs,   and they spoke it.   And they even make the argument that,   you don't necessarily   need the the vault notations   to   know what something is   if you really understand   the old,   ancient Hebrew. And,   you know, so you're   you've got consonants.  

But,  

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you know?  

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Well well, I I do know I do know that the word Yeshua is used in the Kabbalah. It's in the Kabbalah. So I I don't wanna be using that name. That's for sure. That's the one that the   Pharisees use, the Kabbalah. It's in the Kabbalah, the Yeshua.  

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Samuels, did you heard they say calling I am too?  

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Well, that's what he said. Yeah.  

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Yeah.   In in the Kabbalah,   they used Yeshua, and and it's a completely different   messiah to the one that we have. They they have their own version of the messiah,   and,   they they they use that word Yeshua. So I don't wanna be using the same word as they use because I don't think it's respectful.   You know?  

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When   the when the Pharisees little army comes to to arrest Jesus, they ask for, I don't know, the the carpenter or the   man from Galilee or whatever they asked   who they were looking for, he answered, I am, and they all fell down.  

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And,   I mean, every every Old Testament prophet has a has a meaning behind our name. It does it's not just a it's not just a fancy letter put together. In Hebrew, it means something every prophet that has ever been in the bible. Their name means   in Hebrew.   But,   I I what was the name of that website you just mentioned about,  

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about this topic pertinent to this topic we're talking about?   The god culture. They've they've   got a lot of stuff out there.   It's an interesting   exercise I've been working on for the last few months just to   try to get a better understanding, and it that's sort of why I'm I mentioned,   the book of Enoch,   that was found in the Dead Sea Scrolls, but only the first book. The Yeah. Rest of it is Gnostic stuff, and you wanna be careful of that.  

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Yeah.  

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But they found   also 15   car copies of Jubilees.   They consider   and they do a good job of proving, if you wanna look into it, that that would have been original   canon   and one of the books of Moses.  

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Yeah.  

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Yeah.   It's a bit weird that there's 66 books in the bible. I I just think it's a bit odd, you know.  

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Well, I think it's enough for salvation,   but in the end times,   Lord guaranteed us we would get more information, and I think this is part of it.  

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Yeah. Yeah. True. It's enough for salvation for sure. Yeah.  

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And I don't know if you've ever ever heard of a   a book by Brandon Peterson called Sealed by the King.   That pretty much puts the caboose   on the   anybody who wants to deny the,   that God approved the King James sixteen eleven   by the mathematics   that show up in it   that could only be found currently with a computer system.  

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I mean, it's far more accurate than the new international version or any of the modern versions that are out there, the sixteen eleven.  

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Well, they dropped thousands of words, and they say that because   people added words,   be you know, it's just all bullshit.   Really. Yes.  

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So I'm gonna write that down. The god culture you said there, and I'll look it up. That looks good. Culture. Yeah. Yeah. Culture.  

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Culture.  

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And,   also, you you mentioned the book there. What was the name of that one? The  

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Sealed by the King.  

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Sealed by the king. Okay. I got that one. Thank you, sir. 7777  

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by Brandon Peterson.   I mean, somebody he did he had   the mathematic   professors calculate the possibility   of some of these sevens appearing in the bible like they do, and it's trillions   to one.  

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And there's many of them.  

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They're over and over and over and over, and he has a   you know, his book is like an inch and a half sick.  

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Did he write the message as well? No?   The translation?   Who?   The same author?  

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No. He's   just pointing out that the King James version is the only one that has this   mathematical   repeats of the sevens in it.  

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Okay.  

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In English.  

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Okay.  

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I  

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mean, the whole history behind the king  

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He dropped out.   Oliver, you dropped off, I think,  

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or did I?  

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He did. We're waiting on him.   I inherited a, a DVD bible set from my dad,   and it's   narrated by Max McLean.   He does an excellent job as well   when it comes to voices   and his adaptation of it. It's   pretty  

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powerful.  

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Samuel, what version of the King James do you use? Because the one I had,   I found missing   verses   and wrong translations in it.  

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Well, the only one that did that are the are the newest ones. So I if there's anything older, I I think mine's a 72 copy.   Yeah. I was in upgrade   after I heard about Brandon Peterson,   because my eyesight is not getting any better as I get older. I was gonna   graduate to a larger print, and I was gonna spend the money on a Cambridge   version of the,   of the King James, which is   dedicated to the accuracy of the 1611.   In fact, they made steel plates   throughout before they digitized,   they kept steel plates for the whole thing.  

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Right.   Yeah. I I bought this one in probably 2006   or so,   and I'm sure it was printed in China.  

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Oh, boy. And,  

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you know, for the most part, it was just recently I found misinterpretations   in it.   Wow.  

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Oh my gosh. Yeah. I know.  

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From from what I can  

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from what I can tell, my dad may not have known about the King James and other so this I know Max McLean did these translations in several languages. Went to the shop. Let me see.   So I'm gonna have to find out.   I'm pretty sure this is a King James version, but it's it's pretty easy to vet it. If you've got if you've got Brandon Peterson's book, seven seven seven, the sealed by the king,   he shows   all the different Bibles and the changes in the translations.   So you can pick an area in your Bible and check it with that   or see which ones are true. And   when I when I was spending a lot of time on his stuff, I,   I made up my mind that I was gonna get, If I was gonna upgrade to a larger print, it would be the Cambridge version, which   sort of expensive, but   the it's also relatively big   print, and so it's a it's a larger it's probably about almost twice the size of the Bible I have today.  



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Right.  

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At least in print.  

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Not to change a subject, but for the last two weeks, I've been getting hammered   with spam   scam calls.   I bet I got a 100 of them yesterday.   Every three minutes, I was or less, I was getting a spam call.   And they're trying to steal your identity. I played along with them one time to see what info they had wanted. They want your full name. They want your date of birth and your full Social Security number.  

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Nobody answers.  

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No. They're just looking for people that are vulnerable and maybe losing their mind and getting what they want.  

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Right.   Oh, I haven't answered the phone in a week, but still half the time it comes up potential spam and the other three quarters of the time it's a regular local phone number.   So I don't even answer Melissa in my address book.  

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Yeah.  

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And this morning, I was deleted,   like, 18   voice mails.   Some of them are going, hello? Hello? Is there anybody there?   And the rest of them were just blank.  

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Rich don't ask me to tell you how to do it, but Maxine was getting a bunch of those.   And she went to her settings,   and   anything   that's any phone number that's not in her address book   automatically goes to voice mail.  

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Oh, well, yeah. I went into my settings, and they don't go directly to my voice mail, but   they,   I don't know, they still show up when my phone's ringing and it vibrates. But if I shut the vibration off,   every time I get one, I lose FCC and I gotta go back and turn the speaker back on.   Yeah. So   when I get a phone call, I just hit my volume down button and it mutes their   vibrate.  

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Go call your senator and ask him if he gets those.  

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Maybe I should give him my senator's number. Here. Call my home phone, will you? Well, might ought to do that.   Because I called the FCC a week ago. Well, they told me what to do, but I already done that.   And today, it wasn't quite as bad until about noon, and then they started   hammering me again.  

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Seems right to me they know who you are.  

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Well, I want to know how do they know I'm even   collecting Medicare?   You know?   Because they're asking Medicare questions to upgrade my   because around the first of the years when you renew your   Medicare carrier.   No. And we can offer you all these free benefits, and you can get cash back and yeah. Right.   We'll give you food assistance cards. I know you can get it if you got the right carrier, but I don't care   about   it. I never got it yet.  

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So  

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okay. We can go back to the bible. I was just getting hammered with   spam  

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calls.  

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Is Oliver still here, or did we lose him?  

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Looks like he's gone.  

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Thanks, Joan.  

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So, Samuel,   what is the firmament?  

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That's an interesting subject because, the God culture gets into that, and they say that   still is there, but that was also what was open to flood the earth   during the flood.   But according to them, the Bible says it's still there. They also say the Garden of Eden is still there.   It's mentioned in, Revelations that it will   be there at the end times.  

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Still aware?  

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Well,   it's   according to them,   the original rivers   from the Garden of Eden   were the trench system   of the oceans.   And during the flood, those rivers opened and blew water out of the Earth, and the firmament opened and dropped that water   and flooded the earth above Mount Everest.  

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That's with the sun, Mike. I'm gonna be.  

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So as above, so below?  

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Well, I don't know.  

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That's   that's often used in, gnosticism   as and that's what the star David is about, the two intersecting triangles.   So so we gotta be careful about that.  

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The theory of   of the, the firmament then,   of a flat Earth   and the firmament   and the waters above the firmament   and the waters below. Right?  

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Well, I'm just saying what what   the translation in the Bible is saying is that   and   I don't know if you listened to Murr's   piece   this weekend,   but   she had two astronauts that were Christians that were testimony   giving testimony to the,   sphere of the earth.  

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Mhmm.  

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And that it's and he pointed out the bible where it says it's hung on   nothing.   It was   it was it was a really good piece.  

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Yeah.  

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About an hour or two or three days after the  

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Yeah. There's a lot of this has come out recently,  

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and and it's just something that,   I find quite interesting.  

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Well, these you   know, God works   in this physical world. And,   it was one of those things I try to share with   Merv.   He doesn't necessarily like so much as he or us,   but he's an astrophysicist   and   he's got a lot of   pieces out there,   which are really quite powerful. And he's brought a lot of people   to Christ   as an astrophysicist   and   and a pure genius.   This guy,   was brought up in an atheist home,   didn't meet a Christian until he was in graduate school,   because he was British Columbia. And he said, in our part of the town, you know, there's there was what there was no Christians, and so he never really met one.   But anyway,   long story there, but   I just rewatched one of his pieces, which is, I think, how big is God?  

And, that's on a YouTube channel called reasons to believe.   Just astonishing   how big this universe is.   He did a very good job of putting it into layman's terms.  

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I I find that it seems to me that with God, and and and I may be completely off base here,   you get into the metaphysical.  

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Well,  

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again, these terms, you gotta be careful with the term, but,   God   God is you know, if you listen to Hugh Ross,   he's beyond time and space.   Mhmm.   So if you wanna call that metaphysical, then I can understand it. But   if you get into theosophy and things of that nature, you could get into gnosticism   with the same term.  

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Yeah. Well,  

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simple question. Right? To get into two different types of God,   the one that's evil and the one that's good and all this kind of crap. And, you know, that's just not Christianity.  

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And for me, like, a gateway   to the metaphysical would be something like the Fibonacci sequence   or   frequency and vibration.   Right?  

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Well,   that's that's that's an excellent place where   coming from an astrophysicist,   Hugh Ross,   shows how the Bible   is perfectly in tune with it.   Mhmm.   It's Yeah. You're saying, you know, a lot of people will say the Bible is not a science book, but anytime it discusses it, it's on the bunny.   So Yeah.  

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And and so if you if you think in terms of a creator,   right,   then the creator   had supreme knowledge.   Okay?   And the   creator   would then be able to create   his   vision of,   mankind   and mankind's existence on his Earth.  

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Yeah. In that piece on how big God God is, he does a calculation.   He likes calculations because he's an astrophysicist. Right? Mhmm.   And he he goes into how many trillions times trillions times trillions times trillions times trillions times trillions,   smarter   and more funded God is   than the smartest people that he knows on earth.  

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Yeah. I I can't imagine. You know, if if, you know, let's say that they're the creator created everything that we that we know. Everything we touch, everything we see,   everything we experience   was created by the creator.  

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And he and he talks about the passages in in the Bible where God is closer to us than we are to each other even if you're in the same household with somebody.   And   he he tells you in a in a physical,   theory form   how that's possible because he's not in our time and space.   He can run parallel to it. He also discusses this is a suffering of Jesus   that could have been eternities on the cross, not just ours.   I mean, he gets into some pretty heavy stuff if you like that kind of thing.   So I would recommend him.  

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Well, if you're searching, I think, for, you know, for an answer,   you know,   to a lot of things. For for instance, why are we here? You know?   You know?   How did we get here?   You know? That kind of thing.   Well, if you're searching for that, I I think that's a a logical place to to look.  

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Where would that be?  

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No. No. Where where you were just where you were just referencing.   It I think that would be a a logical,   a logical way to go.   You know?  

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Doctor Hugh Hugh Ross, like I he's a he's an absolute genius, and he started out autistic.   And,   so he didn't even like speaking to people. And   and   he he got   quite old as a boy before he even gave it a shot because he realized that he he didn't want to be the dunce in class because he understood what was going on, but he wasn't speaking to anybody, so he got treated accordingly.   So he started to change   what he was doing. And   but when it comes to his   grasp on things, I mean, I think this guy was at   Stanford by the time he was   in his late teens.  



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Yeah. There's a few of those around. Yeah. But, yeah, that's awesome.  

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And he was,   like I said, he wasn't introduced to the to the Bible, I think, until he got or to Christians. He didn't meet a Christian until he got to Stanford of all places.   And,   he he gets into all of this stuff of how he,   he read all the other,   religious books in the world   of any note   and points out how they just don't prove themselves   in his science.   They're wrong.   They're not wrong by a little, they're wrong by a lot.   But when you look at Genesis,   he says it it matches perfectly   on how we believe   the universe was made.  

[03:27:58] Unknown:

Yeah. And it's, it it starts to blow the mind when you when you start thinking about it in terms of,   you know, the universe and,   size and,   you know,   the possibility that it was all   done by a creator. That just blows your mind.  

[03:28:18] Unknown:

Well,   when when   when people ask me, and they've got, like,   children who are   so brainwashed in schools that the Bible   isn't science enough   for it to be held in any authority to them.   I recommend that they get them to watch you, Ross.   Because for the people with unbelief   based on it having to be science,   even the arguments he has with   people have his weight   that are atheists,   they   have to acknowledge   that   from what they know in their own craft   astrophysicists   and such   is that   there has to   be   a creator   outside of this time and space   for this thing to be here.  



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Right.  

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And and they're also starting to think now as big as this thing is, and he does a good job of explaining it, is how big God is on the   piece he does   on YouTube,   how big this universe is.   I mean,   there's literally   more   stars than there are sands   on the Earth, grains of sand, and   that   visible   matter   that we can see   is only something like 2.7%   of it.  

[03:30:06] Unknown:

Mhmm.  

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Right. And and and also points out where where where the Bible talks about Mhmm. And the darkness is bigger than everything else.   Mhmm. Dark matter is what he points to. I mean, he's,   Thank you. He's he's worth looking at.  

[03:30:31] Unknown:

Somebody tried to break in there.  

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Samuel?   Yes? Hi. Hi, Samuel.  

[03:30:38] Unknown:

Hi.  

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Good piece of What is it I don't like about you, though, and I just got busy, so I wasn't able to text you. But  

[03:30:48] Unknown:

So,   why is it I don't like you, Ross?  

[03:30:54] Unknown:

Oh, I think it was because of,   his stance on creation as not being,   twenty four hour days.  

[03:31:02] Unknown:

Exactly. More likely to not what the Bible says. So that that's why,   you know, no matter what else he does, if he's doing that saying we're still in the seventh day,   that is retarded.  

[03:31:15] Unknown:

Yep. And it's not a salvation issue. And I think we can disagree on things like that and not Alright. Fool man. Whatever.  

[03:31:21] Unknown:

I just wanted to say why I don't much like him because that's twisted.   So, you know,   you know, he's glorified in man and math   mathematics and everything else, fine. But if he's not gonna be able to accept the truth of what's in there, god, in that Bible world,   I mean, how could it be that we spend a thousand years in one day when certain creatures were   created on that one day. It has to be one day because they're symbiotic.   They interact just like we do with everything else. Right?  

[03:31:54] Unknown:

Yep. I I get that. You mean, it's like I said,   he has a lot he he brings a lot of people to Christ, especially those who think they're scientifically   orientated and that the Bible does not prove out in that regard.  

[03:32:10] Unknown:

He does an excellent job there. And I'll get that, but you like you said, you heard the astronauts.   I put the links to the Yeah. They both tense because The moon rock. I mean, they put the moon rock.   The link's in the show, and I can send those videos to you if you want because it is good to see them. But I listened to them a couple of times because I wanted to make sure that it was enough coming across audio wise.   But what I started out there with was   Patrick Slattery talking about how, yeah, we did go to the moon. Right? Because Jim Fencer and others get everyone believing. Nope. Didn't go.   You know, there are separate factions and different agendas,   but we did go to the moon.  



[03:32:58] Unknown:

Yeah. I've seen some of those capsules and stuff. I've been to the,   the NASA,   deal in, in Cocoa Beach in Florida. And,   you know, it's,   when you see those, you kinda go, really? They look kind of flimsy.   You know?   So I don't know. You know? It it sometimes you wonder. You know? It's like, I don't know if they could have made it in  

[03:33:23] Unknown:

Okay. I see Jimmy Bennett in the chat room. I guess he's a flat earther.   Says the moon is plasma. It's not plasma.  

[03:33:32] Unknown:

Yeah. And there's there's also these people now. This I just saw just saw one the other day   where they were talking about the moon, and they were like, well, if the moon was a rock, you'd, you know, you when it lights up, you'd see the whole thing. You wouldn't just see, you know,   just the,   you know, just the one little portion of it.   Yeah. It gets  

[03:33:53] Unknown:

Shadowed by the Earth. It's moving around the Earth.   We don't Right. And You'll notice in these videos, they don't say anything about moving the Earth moving.   They say about where it had to be for the, window.  

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The flat earthers will   say that the sun is not 93,000,000   miles away. It is much closer than that.  

[03:34:14] Unknown:

Okay. Can you say about flat earth, but what do you what do why are you saying plasma?   Well, I'll I'll let him speak. I mean, if he's if he wants to get on, go ahead. Yeah. I I guess he doesn't want to. That's alright. I I wasn't I was just listening, but I liked Samuel, you bringing that up. But, you know, you're saying that I don't like you. Ross won't have a reason   because he puts his math   ahead of god,   ahead of god's word.   So  

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Well, to be fair to him, there's you can translate day differently in the Bible, and it's Oh, they like to say it again. That you can.  

[03:34:56] Unknown:

Well, that's because, like you say, God is above space and time, but he's also in charge of it.   You know? So it's not   anyway, I'll leave now. Sorry.   I just want to put that in there because you said, Mara doesn't like you, Ross, and I wanted people to know why.  

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Well, you don't you don't have to leave on our account.  

[03:35:21] Unknown:

Well, it's my belief isn't based on other people's.  

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No? No. No. No. That's and  

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and guided to see, and that's why I shared what I did on my show. I thought it was very important  

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because No. I I I like the strength of your convictions. I I think you're, you know, you're right to you're right to, maintain those.  

[03:35:42] Unknown:

But, you know, I disagree with my former self. I mean, there's things that I question now and learn about now that I had no idea that I needed to learn about before. You know?   So Fuck. Yeah. There's We grow. Well, we're always learning, though. Right? We're always learning something new. It's a form of growth. Yeah.   In our   understanding. And he shows us what we can handle at one time.   You know? He's not gonna dump it on us. You know? He's like, you're ready for this? It's okay. Here's this. You know?   And I appreciate Daniel showing me about Hugh Ross because it is very interesting how he gets so deep into the math, and that is the language.  

And, it's important. But when he totally   discounts   Genesis   and creation,   well, then that that makes him not trustworthy.  

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Well, I I don't believe we evolved from apes.  

[03:36:39] Unknown:

Let's put it that way. Actually, he proves Genesis more than he does anything else. So   that's a little inaccurate, Murph. So  

[03:36:47] Unknown:

How does he prove it if he doesn't believe in how does he prove it if he don't believe in it?  

[03:36:55] Unknown:

Well, why don't you let people judge for themselves?  

[03:36:59] Unknown:

Yeah. That's fine. I'd like I said, I heard you say Mer doesn't like him, so I just wanna let you know why.   You know? And I knew why. And it's not that I don't like him, quote, unquote,   the fine man, and he does what he does,   but you have to be careful   of these halfway.   You know? No. I'm I'm higher than God in this instance. No. You're not.  

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Did did you ever watch his piece? Or maybe I sent it to you. I can't I'm not sure. On on the animals in the book of Job?  

[03:37:31] Unknown:

You sent it. I don't think I've watched it yet. You sent it fairly recently. Right? Like, a week or so ago or something. Well, I would have sent it yesterday.   Yesterday?   Okay. I did see something about the animals, but I didn't watch it yet.  

[03:37:44] Unknown:

And I will. That's excellent. He does a good job there too   on disproving   Darwinism   and how God created the animals   to support us and be our friends and,   relate to us,   and he brings sin into it and how that separates us from them, etcetera.   It's it's deep. Pretty good stuff.  

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Yeah. I know. I I   really was getting the impression there for a while. The animals were, like, kind of nudging us   to,   advance spiritually   because they're right behind us. You know? They want to advance too.  

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Go ahead. He he  

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he he points out in that piece how   these animals wanna please us. And even in in the wild when they're amongst their own, there are things they will not do that what they will do for humans in their presence.   So they come to their highest   form   of creation   because they're performing for a higher   form to them.   And he compares that to   man needing God to be able to do the same thing, to bring himself to his highest form.  

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This is all for the glory of God. He's working through us, each of us, animals   and all.   You know? That's that's what omnipresent is and omniscient and omnipotent.  

[03:39:23] Unknown:

You know? It's the So is there a synergy? Is that what you're is that kind of where you're getting at?  

[03:39:30] Unknown:

A synergy? Yeah. And I said there's a symbiotic   relationship too. Yeah.  

[03:39:37] Unknown:

No. I mean, eventually   eventually, it all it all comes to a to a point,   a synergistic a synergistic point.  

[03:39:46] Unknown:

Cody is pointing out that they have souls.   They're soulish.  

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You know, this thing about reaction,  

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and they were created for us   to help us. Let's think about civilization  

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to even exist.  

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This thing about souls, though, in the bible, what it says is we're living souls. A living soul   means that you have   the five,   you know,   your instincts,   your, you know, attributes, and the animals have to. Living soul. But it doesn't mean that it carries over after we're dead and floats around. No, that leaves you open to demons. All right? The dead know nothing, the Bible says.  

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I think he puts five on on us and four on animals'   attributes   that God gave him.  

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Right.  

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And what is That's what I tell Brent about judgment. You know? The he says that people are in hell.   Well, no. They're sleeping. They're not in hell or they are not in heaven. They have to wait for the judgment of God.  

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Amen, Laurie.   Yeah. There's there's no you know?   Yeah. Whatever.   But the,   Alexander Scorby Bible,   Scorby,   what's it? Bible.   Anyway, it's a channel, and you can find it. And they have a live stream going the whole time.   And, I I mentioned that in the show, and they,  

[03:41:21] Unknown:

you know, you can Check out Max McLean. He's got the YouTube versions of his he did the entire Bible as well. I've got   my dad's copy of it,   DVD.  

[03:41:33] Unknown:

And is that the title of his, channel?  

[03:41:38] Unknown:

Oh, I think if you look up Max McLean in Bible, you're gonna get it. Okay. Have you listened to Scorby at all? I mean, it's an amazing voice. Amazing. Yeah. And you know Max McLean is in that caliber.  

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You don't need the music background and all that stuff.  

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Yeah.  

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He reads with such passion telling the story,   and, he considered it his best work. And he was considered the best recording artist, you know,   radio actor voice. And,   he did a lot of other things for talking books. And I think I've heard   him way back when my sister,   my dad would get her talking books from the library.   And,   but when she went fully blind,   you know, we were teenagers, so we didn't have a lot of time together after that before we went went our own ways and,   you know, all that stuff.  

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Back then, I would assume it was the King James only, but I know Max McLean has probably done more than the King James   adaptation. So   gotta watch that a little bit there.  

[03:42:48] Unknown:

Yeah. I like I like to stick to the King James.   Yeah.   Not that there are some things that are a little off kilter here and there, but,   I do like it. It just rings true to me, and I I get that   same insightful feeling, you know, that this is the way.   Use this. And if there's other things, you'll learn about it. You know? So   Right.   Yeah.  

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Do you think Summer, do you think people are getting more spiritual?  

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I think they have to be.   I I think they have to recognize   because you can't ignore that there's evil anymore.   When you see they call them pedophiles, well, that means love. I call them pedo satanist.   That's not love to torture and abuse children and kill them.   Oh, god. No. Energy. And there there again, that's that's the demon activity.   And it's the same thing with sodomy   and the same thing with schizophrenia.   These are   demons.   And, we   used to know that, and it tells that in the Bible. You know, it doesn't talk about, oh, you know, he needed some more magnesium.  

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You know? In in some in in in many ways, really, I'd think with all the information that's now available and all the information that comes out pretty much on a daily basis,   it seems as if,   you know, I I guess you could go one of two ways, but a lot of people are like, hey. You know,   there's so much wrong   going on   in our in our world, and I think that's kind of leading people to become   a little more spiritual.  

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And and they start to recognize, oh, you have to make a choice about many things, you know. But   once you make that choice to stay under his wing,   it's, oh, you'll be tempted plenty. And, you know, there'll be plenty of challenges, but   you're more likely to see the right way to go.  

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Yeah.   Yeah. It's almost as if, you know, you have a there's, like, an, an invisible connection.  

[03:44:59] Unknown:

Uh-huh.  

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Yeah. Another thing that Ross gets into and is quite an expert on is   what the aliens are.   Being an astrophysicist,   he can   give you a different and he he had to answer   questions,   regarding this matter very young in life,   and he tells a story about how that all happened, etcetera. So  

[03:45:26] Unknown:

Well, can you give us in a nutshell what he thinks they are?  

[03:45:31] Unknown:

Payments.  

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Thank you. Creatures.   Thank you.  

[03:45:39] Unknown:

And so,   are there other worlds?  

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There may be, you know, other worlds, and we can see the the, shadows of them,   conversing, you know, around   their star,   but that doesn't mean there's life on them.  

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And are there   if there are other worlds with other beings,   are there other gods  

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of those worlds? Well, see, there's the thing.  

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Yeah. I don't you know, I Hugh Ross   talks about that as well. He he's saying that,   the the outside chance of even finding bacteria   out there   is low.   Mhmm.  

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Yeah. The conditions are perfect here for habitation. We don't see that anywhere else.  

[03:46:31] Unknown:

For your information, Mel, NASA already said that they never went to the moon.   They they can't get out from lower orbit.   Are you?  

[03:46:40] Unknown:

Yeah. There's a lot of things said, but we actually did go. People actually did go. But you see, it's like Patrick was saying, and that's why I played the clip from his last Tuesday show where he But you can't stand on plasma.  

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The moon is a plasma, and you cannot stand on plasma. Are you?  

[03:46:57] Unknown:

Shut up.   Damn plasma.   My ass.  

[03:47:05] Unknown:

Well, when you get there, then we'll have proof.  

[03:47:08] Unknown:

Yeah. And William Tyndale, if you don't believe in the flat air, you could read William Tyndale. Then his bible, he says, the air is flat.  

[03:47:17] Unknown:

Oh, boy. Okay. I'm leaving now. Bye bye.  

[03:47:22] Unknown:

I was just gonna say, how can anybody say the moon is plasma unless they personally been there, which none of us in this room have been?   You're all the one that hearsay, which is not admissible in court.  

[03:47:39] Unknown:

Yeah. And so, if you court. This is not a legal matter.  

[03:47:45] Unknown:

So,   I imagine all of us, many of us have seen those videos,   you know, the flat Earthers have put out   when it comes to, you know, the sun being closer, the moon being pretty much in the same sort of orbit,   and our night and day are   are determined by   those,   orbits,   just just above the flat Earth.   And they   can some and they kind of are able to   they're able   to   to kind of prove it by   different mathematical   equations, different   geographical   ways of proving it as well.   You probably seen those.   You guys have probably seen those, but,   the question becomes, you know, I mean,   do you think that that's realistic or do you do you actually think the 93,000,000   miles away sun and all that is more realistic?  



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See, I don't know about the distance and everything. They could be fudging that for all I know too, but they did go there. Okay?   And I don't know if you can see in the,   chat room, but do you know who Malcolm, Bowden is?   You ever heard of that? There's others too.   Robert Sungin is the Catholic,   apologetics.   But the Earth is, stationary.   It's never been proven to be moving. It is the universe moving around us.  

[03:49:29] Unknown:

Yeah. And, you know, it it takes a very to the moon in your imagination.  

[03:49:33] Unknown:

They take you to the moon into the moon in your imagination because they never went there.   With the technology of, bless the calculator,   they went to the moon and back this time, and nothing happened.   You know, one little thing one little inch out of the orbit, they would've taken   millions of miles away from the from the moon.   Are you?  

[03:49:56] Unknown:

Yeah. You should yield.  

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Yeah. It's it's tricky. And, you know,   you either you either totally believe it that you didn't go or,   you know, you're on the fence.   You know?   Yeah. Or you totally believe you're on the fence. Liars.  

[03:50:17] Unknown:

How are you gonna believe liars? They always be lying, you know, and they're gonna they tell you the truth about going to the moon and back.  

[03:50:24] Unknown:

You might be looking right now. Why should I believe you? Go to Answers in Genesis on YouTube, and you'll see the videos that I played. Hi, you. Well, I don't believe you. I believe my god. That says the air is flat.  

[03:50:37] Unknown:

The air is flat, and you've got a a a pyramid on top. That's it.   I do not believe I don't believe you or any man. I believe him.   Men always are liars. And woman, the same thing.  

[03:50:51] Unknown:

But it's like, how do you explain,   you know, the   the firmament?   Right?   How do you,   you know, it it's it's you know, you got people now saying, well, the firmament is it's like we're under a dome.   You know?   And so so if you're trying to explain the firmament,   okay, and it really, I guess, depends on again, it depends on, you know, how you see it or what your beliefs are.   But how would you, you know, if you're trying to make sense of it and you're trying to be open minded about it, how would you explain the firmament?   Anybody out there?  



[03:51:35] Unknown:

There's lines can explain it. That's why they talk that's why they talk about it. They can explain the thing, ma'am. And they tell you that by hailing.  

[03:51:48] Unknown:

What I  

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heard what I heard about the firmament is that it's like   glass   or some   something similar to glass.   And, oh, I also heard it maybe just be   a radiate   a lay a layer of radiation.   And I also heard it could maybe, like, just be some kind of frequency.   Well, I is radiation and frequency the same thing?  

[03:52:24] Unknown:

Almost like a like like a plasma kind of a deal.  

[03:52:27] Unknown:

The plasma is like elect electrical.   Yeah. It could be electrical,  

[03:52:34] Unknown:

yield Of course. Or state of being. You know, Yandex is a good search engine rather than asking each other, look it up. And here's what I found if you wanna hear it. The fur or if you don't, I'm gonna read it anyway.   The firmament as defined is the celestial   arch or vault   separating the earthly domain from what lies beyond.   Dictionaries   describe it as the sky's arch or vault. In the Bible, it is called the firmament,   firmamentum.   In the Vulgate,   translated from Hebrew as rikia or rekia,   meaning expansion.   The biblical language depicts it as a solid expanse above us, dividing the waters above from those below.  



[03:53:19] Unknown:

The waters   above.   And and that whenever I hear that, I'm you know, it's like, wow. Okay. So   you're telling me then   that,   above this firmament, this seal, this   dome, whatever it is, there's   some sort   of water above us.  

[03:53:49] Unknown:

Then God said, let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters and let it divide the waters from the waters.   Thus, God made the firmament and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters   which were above the firmament, and it was snow. And God called the firmament heaven.   Genesis one six eight. But that's a New King James anyway.  

[03:54:10] Unknown:

And that goes back to what   what Samuel was saying   earlier when he said that,   there was a this I don't know if it's a fear. I I guess a theory   that the firmament was opened and the waters poured in.  

[03:54:25] Unknown:

Yeah. And you can find that in Genesis seven eleven. The the Yeah. Interesting verse number. The waters came down from above and broke up from underneath the earth and, you know, that's how the blood   blood was. And,   you know, it's been remarked just like,   you know, now, god and god's present all the time. Man gets into technology and can do things.   And maybe back then, he was into technology   These two that we don't know about or haven't rediscovered yet or maybe we do and don't know how to use them.   And they may have now freed the flood upon us because it was it will.  

[03:55:03] Unknown:

The the Bible also says that there's no rain prior to the flood. The Right. Or rain was watered by mist.  

[03:55:12] Unknown:

Right. Dew. There was dew. Right. Right.   Yep. No rain. No snow. Yep.  

[03:55:20] Unknown:

And I heard the reason,   the reason the sky is blue is because it's the water on the other side of the permanent.  

[03:55:29] Unknown:

Mhmm.   I mean, just think about it. It's like   a   like an egg yolk, you know, being encapsulated   with the whites to protect it.  

[03:55:42] Unknown:

Or maybe like a gyroscope,   you know, where the in the the inside   is stationary just like you were saying, Murr. The inside is stationary, and then all around you,   you've got this,   field   Mhmm. That could possibly generate, you know,   your,   your ether.  

[03:56:06] Unknown:

Yeah. Yep. Yeah. The ether is definitely a thing.   Then   Houston Einstein to block out Tesla, basically.   They removed the idea of the ether.   It didn't go away. They just didn't like it because it didn't work with his equations that he couldn't even work himself.  

[03:56:27] Unknown:

Yeah.   So so let's so all these you know, you hear this. We've heard this ever since we were kids. Okay. So the Earth is spinning at 17,000   miles an hour and all this stuff. Well, if that was the case, we wouldn't we we couldn't stay stationary.  

[03:56:42] Unknown:

You see, this is this is the thing with the flat Earth stuff is that part is right. The Earth is stationary.   So this is just to add to the confusion. It's spherical, but it is stationary.  

[03:56:54] Unknown:

It is Yeah. Moving around us. And if it's spherical,   okay, it is is it as it's represented,   right, you've got all these different land masses all around this sphere. Well,   you know, what if it what if the land mass is just like how they depicted in the flat earth where it's the all the land masses are, you know, on a flat plane.   Right? And then you whatever is surrounds us would would be the sphere.  

[03:57:25] Unknown:

This is really precise in Genesis seven eleven. In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month, the seventeenth   day of the month, the same day where all the fountains of the great deep broken up and the windows of heaven were opened.   And the rain was upon the earth forty days and forty nights   after not having rain ever.   So we we still are flooded, basically.  

[03:57:56] Unknown:

Yeah.  

[03:57:57] Unknown:

So, I mean, I'm I'm just you know, I've always been trying to make sense of this. I mean, especially since the flat earth stuff came out. It's it it really makes you rethink,   you know, just exactly how it is that,   that we could,   be on this globe   with all these landmasses all around it. Right? And supposedly moving at that speed, which I think is impossible.   I mean,   you you'd be thrown off. I mean, there's no way.  

[03:58:29] Unknown:

Yeah. You you know, what you need to do is you track it back. Right? And when did they start   spreading this rumor?   It was in 2014.   They had several other,   psychological   operations that they dropped that year.  

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You know?  

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Whether it be because it's the hundredth year of   the starting of World War one or   possibly also involved with the sixty sixth year since Israel had been made a state.   Not that it plays by anybody's rules. But  

[03:59:03] Unknown:

Yeah. It's just it's you know, when you're trying to make sense of,   you know, the fact that you're on this Earth,   okay, and you're trying to make sense of the Earth itself,   And then, you know, you start to realize, hey. Wait a minute. You know?   People have been telling us   that the Earth is round and that we live on this, you know, all these land masses are,   you know,   all around the Earth. And that if you're standing,   wherever you're standing, you're upright.   You know? And that regardless of, you know, where you are on this Earth, you know, everybody feels feels it the same way.  

[03:59:42] Unknown:

Right? There is. What's the thing is gravity. That's another thing they try to say doesn't exist, but there it does.  

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Well, you you know, and and then you when you start questioning it, you know,   you're very you know, everything you've been told comes into question. Right? Mhmm. Yeah. And then, you know, and and and you start to try to make sense of it. And you go, well, hey. Look. You know, I mean, why why wouldn't it be flat?   It would it makes perfect sense. You know?  

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Listen. I don't know if you can see these videos.   They're in the, links to my show that I posted in both chats.   But if you go to YouTube answers in Genesis,   you'll find them there and some other ones with astronauts and a lot of good good videos. But they have actually   film that they took pictures when they went to the moon   and back at Earth at Earthrise.   You know? Right. So it is it is quite a distance,   but it's I you know, I don't think it's   like, the million you know, that's a little crazy.  

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You know? But I think they do have stuff. And then, of course, they'll plant the seed of doubt and say, well, those are all CGI.   Right?   I mean, let's let's I mean, that's exactly what goes on. I mean, you know, this is   this is why it's so difficult.   Yeah.   It's difficult to submit.  

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Things that are AI, they they,   say are real. Like, for instance,   10/07/2023,   that was entirely   AI.   The only thing they have that is supposed to prove that they supposedly took from Hamas,   right,   are AI pictures.   You know, Matt Gertin went through them frame by frame and shows you.   And besides, you can look at them yourself with once you, you know, got the smegma out of your eyes,   you can see the stuff comes apart, comes back together. Same thing happened with Charlie Kirk. If you look at that, you know Oh, yeah. Yeah. Slow it down and look at it, turn off the audio, whatever you gotta do. You know, I didn't watch all the fake blood and stuff. That that was really alarming to see that at first, but it's fake.   And   it shows his shirt.  

The f disappears off the shirt. The mic dances around. The ring finger oh, that's that's a switch the ring switch the finger ring or whatever stupid   explanation. No. It was AI. That's why it looks like it's on the little finger sometimes.   And then the holograms that they were using. So they use technology, and they do this. And then like Derek Johnson pointing out, you know, he does the laws and orders, and his videos are too long too, but a very interesting   he says they never use the principles of these things like Trump at the rallies. That's not him.   You know, it's it's taken too big a risk   or like at Butler. And that had a lot to do with AI   too. It was you know, I wanted to be after he'd been hearing,   Samuel Andrews because he's an expert with the arms  

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and stuff. But So,   you think Kirk would Kirk's still alive then?  

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Yeah. That wasn't him. They buried him away, which is good. Maybe Candace will get to recognize that at some point. I don't know. Maybe not. Yeah.  

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Yeah. That But I did see You have to admit that that was pretty I mean, when, you know, when you   a lot of people covered this. And when you when you go down the rabbit hole,   it it really starts to feel like there was a,   that it was faked. Let's put it that way.  

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Yeah. But then Mitch had the thing with the Palm Pilot or whatever, and I think that little thing   triggered probably the, the,   effect of the blood, fake blood, moulage, I'll call it, because that's what they call fake blood, the French term. Right? It didn't soak into the shirt. And in fact, crawled back up with leaving no mark.   And Candace, having seen the footage, she demanded to, you know, the t p USA people. She'd worked there.   And they sent her I guess she could just watch it, though. Couldn't keep it. So it was on FaceTime, and she watched it over and over and over, and she said there's no blood on the back of it.  

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Well, Stu Peters was convinced that, there was a device in the microphone.  

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It's all kinda ideas. This is the thing. You're already,   saying what the conclusion is. Alright? They did that on 09:11. They did that with Kennedy. And if you don't assume what the conclusion is, then you're more apt to really study   the evidence.   And that's what doctor Drew Wood says. Don't get distracted. Keep studying the evidence. It'll tell you what.  

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When JFKX   came out,   you know, and they they they were like, look. He was wearing a squib.   Okay?   And,   and they   they exploded the squib.  

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These two guys listen. Listen, Mark. Jay Weider   and Ryder Lee, you know, they got into it. And I I contacted him. I didn't hear back from Weidner, but they must be getting some of this from Brian David Anderson's work from way back 2007.   And then Mark Anderson got into it. And,   you know, Brian has passed away very kinda weirdly. But, anyway, he's the one that really dug into that, and you can find it on both BitShoot and IMDB.   The, my god, I'm hit. And you need to watch that because it shows No. I I I did watch it. There was one shot.   It hit his arm. And that was the sharpshooter   Oswald's brother Robert, his older brother. He was Right. He was a marksman. Alright? And it's funny because, you know, before he died well, I I think it was even, you know, earlier than that, but he came out and said, I don't know why my brother did it.  

He just didn't tell what happened.  

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And you're right because, you know, it's funny when when you when you approach it from from the JFKX   angle, you know, that that he had a squib,  

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a lot of this stuff starts to fall into place and starts to make more sense. But even what I'm saying is even without the squid, which I don't think was there either,   they added all this stuff when they did the film after because the Zapruder film didn't look anything like what the finished product was. Alright? And you have a little proof of blood.   And, you know, they had CGI then. 61 is when Mary Poppins came out. Alright?   So they had all these tricks.   And besides that, if you just follow through with the whole thing,   the booby is made to get smaller and come down closer to the screen. And behind them, the people, the few people that were there   in background are larger than the people in the car.  

You have so much going on. And there was, Weidner pointed this out, which I didn't notice. There was one guy with a professional camera, but he was filming the other people. He wasn't filming the event. But all of the, you know, the three major networks,   didn't weren't there. They didn't Exactly.   This was all set up, and I think JFK I I know they were in on it. But after Weidner did his thing, somebody sent him the Vanity Fair article   where they did a a rehearsal. It was supposed to be just for fun type thing at Hammersmiths where Jackie grew up. And Do you guys not hear Paul trying to get in?  

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What's that? No. Go ahead.  

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Do do you guys not hear Paul trying to get in? Oh, go ahead.  

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Don't call No. They're   jeez. They're too busy talking to listen.   Too busy talking to listen. Paul will do.  

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I   Hey. I'm talking to you.  

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Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey.   Quiet, numbskulls. I'm broadcasting.   Anyways,   Murr,   did I   hear you say   a Gregism?   I coulda sworn I heard  

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smagma  

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a a little while ago. Well, it's not  

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I knew that word before Greg probably was alive. But, anyway, yeah, I said it, and I should apologize for saying it. It's a I'd I'd using a Gregism.   I don't know. I It's it's worse it's worse than a Gregism. It's nasty. Sorry.  

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Oh, my god. Oh, okay. Well, that's just what I was wondering.   And I'm wondering   if you guys are gonna, like, like, keep,   rolling with this with this topic and letting it rock and roll. I mean, the stream has been running for going on five hours now.   I'll let it continue to run.   If you guys are gonna continue to talk, but Question.  

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Well, we're having phone call. We're having phone.  

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Question. Now, Paul.  

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I wanted to continue on that thread, so I don't know about you guys. Okay. Go ahead and continue the thread. I'll take it down in about twenty minutes. Alright? So I wanted to say something just backing up a little bit about the flood.  

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You know, there's there's what the Bible says and there's what people believe it says, and there's things it doesn't say that people interject into it.   The flood   didn't lift didn't didn't just go on for forty days and forty nights.   That's That was the rain. When his arc starts to get lifted,  

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he was actually in the arc for three hundred and seventy one days. Yeah. Well, I thought it was a little less than that, but I know it was over a year. Yep.  

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Can I ask y'all   something,  

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please? Go for it.  

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Alright. Now back when Mark was asking about the pictures of Earth   that they allegedly took from space when they were in space,   which then y'all said it was CGI or something. But, anyway, my question is,   is there a picture   have they taken a picture from space of Earth   showing,   Australia or Japan or whoever's on the other side of Earth,   showing airplanes flying upside down and people walking upside down.   Have have they taken that picture  

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of Earth from space? They can't they can't see that much detail from that distance.   But there were pictures taken from the moon of the Earth. I'll send you   the damn. From the moon of our archives. The links are in there. Alrighty.  

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They don't have pictures, ma'am. They're all CGI. They tell you in the website   CGI.   Shut up. Well, they tell you. They tell you themselves. It's CGI.  

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Even though they're saying it Sure. Never a straight answer. That's what NASA stands for.  

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What? Yeah.   You know that.   But you believe what they tell you. That even includes them saying they lied when they didn't.  

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Now I I want to get back to this, JFKX   thing. So,   Mer,   when they when they,   they pointed out Jackie crawling   onto the the trunk,   right,   to   get a shiny   object.   Okay?   And they were saying that they felt that that was not bone or anything like that,   that that was actually metal,   and it was metal from the,   from the squip.  

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No. You know, there's too much playing around with that video, like I said. And I recently said about Clint Hill, you know, who was the, security guard right there with them on the car that day. And he knew way much. And thankfully, he's passed now for his own sake.   But in this video, he was, being interviewed, and he's quite a bit older. And at one point, he says Jackie, it had when she crawled back there, that she had   Jack's brain in her hand.   Right? But then he says further on when they got to the emergency room that he was still breathing.   Those two things can't be true.  



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No.   No.   I don't know. You know? I I've seen a lot of JFK stuff, and when I when I saw that latest one,   it made more sense to me than all the others that I've ever seen.  

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Well, it has a lot of good points, but isn't it interesting that that they come up with the same conclusion   that they did back there in 2007?   Right? My god. I'm hit. That there was an switch man in the trunk. Now they say it was the the doppelganger,   tippet. But it wasn't because he was being shot at the same time.   So he couldn't have been in there. It was another man, but they did take both of those bodies. And then you'll find a thing   on Bitchute just like over three hours. It's really good, though. A lot of details about other things. And, of course, they come to the conclusion that he was killed. JFK was killed. But, no, it was these two bodies,   both Tippets and this whoever this they never identified it. Right?  

We're both sent back in,   Air Force two. And there was a very, talented,   mortician   on board   that was doing the, the fix up. Right?   So yeah. Yeah. You you really just need that. And then they got out of town for a while and, it there's just so many details. But the fact is he lived.   See, this is God over everybody else. They were doing all kind of stuff whether it was meant to make sure he died or what. There's this kid, Chris Barker, and I'm sure there was more than one.   And he had a nanny, a British nanny. And I don't know if his parents were in on it or didn't care   or or what. But,   anyway, he was forced to to,   dress   as a girl often, his persona, Kathy. Right?  

So   two weeks I think it was, like, October 29 or something   before the event.   He and,   others, but and he said he probably was drugged. He was dressed as Kathy, and there was a girl there dressed as a boy.   And they were reading bible verses backwards.   This is a satanic   thing. And it was, you know, casting a spell. All these things, if you look at them, that they're casting spells, it makes so much more sense.   Right? Like the,   right, which is what I call the COVID,   the. Right? Because it's designed after the,   which in Hebrew and they write right to left and we write left to right. But the is a demon on your back.  

And so they get us to repeat stuff. I mean, if you look at how often people have said, oh, Wesley Clark said these seven countries. Well, that's just   they wanted us to keep repeating that because they were gonna carry it out. And our repeating it has effect.  

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You know? Yeah. That's that's kind of more into the, more into the spiritual,  

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line of things. Well Is it not? Yeah. You can separate the spiritual and the physical.   You can call it the medical metaphysical   because it's often called that too. But it just shows that there's more than just physical.   And we're generating energy for their schemes when we watch their predictive programming and get into their music.   We're following their spells like they're the Pied Piper.   And we help bring it with our energy and our belief in what they're doing.  

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Yeah. Lately, you know, like like, for me, I've I've started to get to where I all I wanna do is approach things,   with a filter. So so if somebody gives me a premise like, okay.   JFK was wearing a squib. Okay. Well, okay. Well, let's start there, okay, and rule it out.   You know? That, you know, it it it's got to the you know, to me,   when you try to when you try to investigate the JFK thing, it's it's too big. There's too many pieces.   So if you can take so if you can take, like, one piece, like, okay. He was wearing a squib. Let's let's try to prove whether he was or whether he wasn't.  

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Right? But start listen. Did that come first or did the other one come first? Was there anything about a squib in it? Did the side of his face peel down? No. Okay? Well, it it actually, the way that they described it was that it rolled up like a like a lampshade or Right. I mean, like a upper down. That was an effect. Shade. Yeah. That was an effect. That did not happen.   K? The only two shots were the one to his arm, his right arm, his shoulder.   Right? And then there was a pyrotechnic device. It looked like a little white dog. People weren't even commenting that were there. There was a woman in the,   parade group said, oh, I didn't know they have you know, there was several people. And when they were on the tarmac, she was playing with Jack with this white thing.  

But what it was, was a pyrotechnic device that she held up and it went off like over their heads and there was like   the smell of gunpowder. And when they got to the hospital and everything, so you had that loud noise,   right? But when you get into this, all these different shooters and all these different shots,   it's made up.  

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Right.   Right. It it's it's it's nothing more than a distraction. Exactly.   But, yeah, that whole thing, you know, if you if you try to take it at face value, okay, you're you're watching the video, you you see what happened. Okay?   If you just try to try to take it from just that and then say, okay,   Look look at all the different movements. Look what everybody did in the car and all this and that. It doesn't make sense for first of all, for Jackie to to even get out of, you know, up out of the seat and crawl onto the trunk. It makes no sense.   You know, if you're being shot at, you don't you don't make yourself a target.  



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Well, she put supposedly was trying to get the Secret Service up there and all that. And whether that even have it, we don't know because they fudged. They only allowed that one video. All these killings of all these people around it for once that knew that it was not what they're telling us. It wasn't Yeah. And and if if  

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you've ever been to Dealey Plaza okay. I've been there. I haven't. It's only about a five second   deal. That's about all you get.   So that all that had to happen in a very short Dilley Plaza is not very big.  

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Well, where it happened, actually, was was Elm Street that comes into there. Right?   Right. It's on Elm Street, and they found this bullet   that was   in the grass that had blood and bone and hair on it.   Alright?   And it was slowed down because they had to go through the car. Now some people said, oh, well, you know, when well, yeah. That's what happened. That's when they shot the guy in the back. The switch man, they called him.   Right?   And he's the one,   apparently,   that was taken into the emergency room. And what they do automatically is they put oxygen   mask on them. Right? And they even rock their head in gauze.  

Right? So they couldn't tell who it is. I mean, professional medical people aren't concerned with who it is. They're trying to keep them alive.   And that's what I used to be. I don't think it's how it is now, maybe. But  

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And and if it was a doppelganger,   you know, I mean, by the time his head's all blown out or whatever,   you're not gonna be able to really tell. It's gonna be all swollen and everything else.  

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Right. Right. And and Tippens was a doppelganger. And, g Gordon Liddy,   talk show host,   apparently   said   and bragged, basically, that he went up to Tippets, shot him so he fell down, and then shot him in the back of the head.   But this was all going on while the other thing was going on, so he couldn't have been the one in the back like Wagner says. And Wagner gets harassed by intel people. He's been around a long time.  

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Oh, I know. Yeah. Over fifty years of doing film.  

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Yeah.   As far as that, you know, it just made me think he must have seen this to come up with that same conclusion. Very weird.   But, you know, change it to how whatever suited his his opinion   of it. So  

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So so your opinion of this,   enhanced,   Zapruder film then,   you you feel like, again, that that was,   that's not the true the true, the true film?  

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Well, you can enhance it so much. Widen brings that out. He's the one that points out how they shrunk them down Wow. Bring it down to the bottom of the screen and how the people behind way away from them are bigger than the people in the car.  

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Right. But but but the film that they showed was,   cleaned up, to where you could really see things.   It had a much higher resolution.  

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Right. But it wasn't just cleaned up.   It wasn't it wasn't the same tone at all, actually, because they could redo everything if they wanted to, and they did.  

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Yeah. So you you don't you don't feel that that was a cleaned up as a producer film at all, or that was a   a higher resolution  

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so that that you could really actually see what was going on. When you get finished with it, it wasn't the same film at all.   And they could do those   techniques with the thing on the cheek that rolls up or down or whatever.  

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And Right. Well That wasn't there. And I just said pointed out that there was a there was a frame missing as well   that was spliced.   They pointed out that that that frame that was spliced  

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Right. Right.  

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You know, and  

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sign there as they go by the billboard. There's some missing frames. Yeah.  

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Yeah.   And, you know,   so I I I don't know. I'm I'm I'm trying to you know, I'm I'm thinking to myself, you know,   this   particular version of the JFK assassination   just makes more sense to me than all the other stuff I've seen. I watched the men who killed Kennedy.   You know?   And, of course, you know, that was quite popular when it came out in 1991.   You know, the men who killed Kennedy laid it out fairly well, but,   there were still, there were, you didn't get the answer. You didn't, you know, and in this particular   film, you get an answer.  



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Well, look at Jim Fencer in his clubs. Right? And he has these things   fifty two years, and they're still having all these get togethers about it. That tells you they don't know what they're talking about.   Why is no one satisfied with any of these conclusions they come   to? Because they're not real.  

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Right.  

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And so this is the thing. We're the crown of creation. We instinctively   know when we're being lied to.  

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Pretty much. Yeah. For the most part, we do. If we wanna admit it.  

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You know?  

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So Well, and then again, there's this flood of information now   that, you know, we're dealing we're dealing with. And that is difficult   for anyone,   really, to discern   what is true and what is not.  

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Well, you know, it really helps to be a mermaid and really, like you said, filter and just just not paying any attention to a lot of stuff.  

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Yeah. And, well, that's you get to that point though to where, you know, you approach everything with this filter because,   you know, it it's it's the only way to try to to try   to to rule things out and to try   and,   separate what's real from what's not real.  

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Now I'd have to say Jesus Christ is that filter.  

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Yeah. And and and for many people, that's exactly that's there's nothing wrong with that.   You know? I have no issues with that at all.   I all I'm saying is though is that, you know,   if you if you're just living your life and you're trying to figure stuff out, you know, you see these things, you see, you know,   one one video is pro, the other one's con and,   you know, and, and they both have good points and you're you're trying to figure it out. And you're you're just trying to say, look, you know, how do I make sense of   you know, in the end, how do I make sense of,   of all the information that I'm getting? You know?  

And and you can pretty much say that about anything.   You know? Whether it be JFK or the moon landings or, you know, health care, you know,   different ways to take care of yourself.   You know?   In many cases, we don't know what's true and what's not.   You know?   Unless we you know, like like, when it comes to supplements and stuff,   you know,   if you're gonna try those things, then, you know, that's on you. You know? You can determine it for yourself.  

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I came to the harsh reality that supplements are pharma like.  

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Yeah. Well, what about what about okay.  

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So Youngevity makes claims that they're not. So what do you think about that? Well, they may be better grades and things, but they're still made somewhere out of stuff, and you can very easily become   imbalanced by taking too much of a particular substance   that occurs naturally with a lot of other substances in Yeah. No. You're right. No. You're right. You you It's food.   And I feel like this Right. Like this one woman that took care of elderly people and everything. The healthiest ones   were the ones that took nothing.   No supplements.  

No pills. Nothing. You ate food or you drank water.  

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You know? Well, you know, like, okay. We've had this conversation before. Okay?   Vitamin d comes out. Oh, well, that's rat poison.   Right?   And and you go and and then and then you think, okay. But so I'm taking d three with k two and that I'm supposed to be able to absorb it better and all this other stuff. You know? And and you start to question,   you know,   the the individual that came out and said that when when you've got tons of other people on the other side who are going, oh, come on. Vitamin d, don't worry about it. It it's good for you. See, it's good for you. The first  

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source I used to take a while ago was actually made from lanolin.   You know? They made it from lanolin. And, so then I was getting these, vegetable, quote unquote, sources.   And I'm looking at my, like, cold cancer for all and looked it up. It's rat poison. Oh, it's just a little rat poison. Well, great.   So, anyway,   after I quit taking it, my hair was starting to fall out. I'm like, oh my. And so I looked it up, and it's okay. You're lacking vitamin d. So I got out in the sun every chance I'd spend   a good twenty, forty minutes out in the sun in the middle of the day. And, it felt so good. My body felt so good. Even just yesterday, it was real sunny, so I was near a sunny window.   So you can let it in around your eyes, basically, is is what you need to do, and that's why   you really shouldn't be wearing shades.  



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You're blocking Now another thing about the eyes, I just wanted to I just wanted to to to,   to interject this.   Samuel brought something up about his eyesight, and I don't know if Samuel has tried putting,   a 100% pure,   castor oil on his eyelids   when he goes to bed at night. Mhmm. I do that. But I've heard I I I I've tried it, and I'll be honest with you. It does it's cleared up my eyesight.   So I don't know.   You know? I'm just I I you know, Barbara O'Neil, you've a lot of people have heard of her probably by now.   You know, she's pretty famous for all of her stuff on YouTube.  

But,   you know, she mentioned that too. She she came out and, you know, in fact, that's the first place I ever heard it.   You could put castor oil on your eyelids, and it'll, it'll, take it'll clear up cataracts.  

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Mhmm.   Yeah.  

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So,   you know, anybody dealing with eyesight issues, I would say just, you know, make sure you get the 100% pure with,   with, no hexane in it.   Mhmm.   And,   you know, put it on your eyelids,   when, you know, when you go to sleep, and   you should notice a difference.  

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Mhmm. It does clear your oceans. Yeah.   Yeah. Yeah.  

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So I just wanted to interject that because you you'd mentioned eyes and but you're right. The sunlight should come through your eyes.  

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That that's where you're gonna get your by the deep production. At the sun. Don't be gazing at the sun. That's what Roger Sales did.   Yeah. You don't wanna gaze at it. But No. No. You just be out of it and let it hit you peripherally.   You know? But that is how it it   enters   you most efficiently. And you need that full spectrum of sunlight, not just a a supplement of vitamin d.   And,   vitamin a too is something that people don't talk about a lot, but you can get plenty of it from different foods. Sweet potatoes are one of the most nutritious foods.   And, remember a book about   during   the depression, and everybody had a sweet potato, roasted sweet potato in their lunch bucket. You know? Right.  



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Well, you know, Murr, the the elephant in the room, of course, and Jim used to talk about this all the time on his show.   And the elephant in the room is as well, the soil doesn't have, you know, the capability of, you know, the But that's saying it's not minerals. And so the so you got the mineral depletion of the soil. Right? And then you've got, you know, stories like, okay. Well, when your grandfather ate an orange,   he got eight times the vitamin c that you're gonna get when you eat an orange.  

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Right.  

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You know what I mean?   It's not That's why I think I think that's why people supplement. I think that's why. Because they hear these stories,   you know, and they're like, well, if I don't supplement, then I'm not gonna get, you know, the mineral, the and all of it. You know?  

[04:30:17] Unknown:

Yeah. And if you think about it, this just came to me. I'd never heard anyone else say it, but vitamin,   that's some,   portmanteau.   That's two words put together.   Vital   minerals.  

[04:30:29] Unknown:

Vitamin. Right.   Right.  

[04:30:32] Unknown:

I never heard anyone say that. I just figured it out. No one ever says that they seem to have a lot of as far as the as far as the minerals go, I mean,  

[04:30:42] Unknown:

I don't know.   I tend to think that that's exactly what happened.   That we have, you know, as far as agriculture   goes and all that, we've depleted our soils   and that   we have to supplement to get the same kinds of,   nutrients  

[04:30:59] Unknown:

that were Soil everywhere is not the same, though. This is what this infers,   and that's just not true.  

[04:31:07] Unknown:

And that that's what Youngevity claims is that well, they've got they've been able to tap into this,   you know, this mineral bed,   you know, that's for the next four hundred years, they'll be able to, you know, tap into it.   You know?   This ancient mineral bed. So, you know, that's the thing. You know?   Again, we're we're getting to where, you know, the information that we get,   where, first of all, is only as good as its source, but   then you have to put this filter on and determine   what it is that   that you   will actually believe and what you won't believe. You know?  

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And you have to understand   where there's a profit motive involved.  

[04:31:49] Unknown:

Can I say Oh, I know? Longevity?   Redmond Sea Salt Mine   is right next door   to Youngevity's mine. So all you gotta do is use Redmond sea   salt. Get the same minerals.  

[04:32:04] Unknown:

Yeah. I use Celtic sea salt, but,   that and that seems to be a pretty good deal.   But,   but yeah. No. Salt is a biggie. And don't don't let them tell you that, you know, you gotta cut back on salt.   You know? Water and then salt. Those are the two most important things. And from there on, you figure out whatever else. But Yeah. And it it goes back to the body electric, doesn't it? I mean, you know and again, it goes back to creation just like we were talking.   You know?   It   we   obviously,   are very complex   beings,   and we require   our bodies require proper nutrition. We know that.  

You know? For us for us to be able to,   to live optimally,   we need proper nutrition. There's no doubt about it. We were created that way.   You know?   Mhmm.   We weren't supposed to be poisoning our bodies, and and yet, what do we what do we find? I mean, it's hard to find clean food for crying out loud.   You know?  

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Mhmm.  

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I mean, think about it.   You know? You go to the grocery store or wherever you get your food sourced from, it's hard to find   super clean food anymore.   You know? And then you got these people who just, you know, don't seem to care.   They'll buy, you know, the stuff in the in the middle   of the supermarket.   It's all, you know, it's all the crappy foods, but, you know, it's got to the point where   it's all they can afford.   Right. You know, they they won't even I it's like, well, heck. I can't buy organic. I can't, you know, I can't afford it.   You know? That's what's coming up. That's what's going on.  



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You know, if you live on inadequate   calories, food like that,   you   you adjust your,   height so that you think, you know, your body grows accustomed to the poisons, basically, and craves the poisons.   And so you say, oh, I have to settle for this. Where if you maybe did some intermittent fasting   and really some meditation   and thought on it, you might decide that, okay. I must get better nutrition.   And so you would seek out that instead,   and then you wouldn't crave all the other junk.  

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Yeah.   You know, we were having a conversation,   it was about a week ago now, where we were talking about saving seeds.   You know?   And then and,   such a great idea.   You know? And and there's been a lot of videos on that too where people have,   you know, taken the seeds from, say, a green pepper or something   and, you know, organic or whatever,   and taken those seeds   and,   just gone ahead and,   put them in soil at home and and grown a new pepper plant.   Mhmm. You know?   I mean, that you know? Instead of just going out and buying a pepper all the time,   you know, why don't you save the seeds and grow your own?  



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You know?   Go to Kirsten   Dirksen   on channel on YouTube, and,   they go around to all different places and, you know, people's living circumstances,   what they build up, how they live. And and it's very interesting. And this one   family in Sweden, I guess it is.   Yeah. And they have built their homestead underneath a greenhouse,   you know, a large greenhouse. And they recycle   all of their so called waste.   And,   they said, they had pictures of it. They went to visit her parents. And when they came back, it was a jungle of tomato   plants because   the tomatoes that they grew and ate after going through them and being back into the soil   produced a jungle of tomato plants.  



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Wild. Yeah. You know? And   that that become you know? Okay. So let's say that, you know, this knowledge becomes mainstream.   Okay?   And,   you know, you've got all kinds of people who are living in what they call food deserts or whatever.   Right?   You've got all kinds of different individuals who they're living in these these mega cities and they, you know, their only access to food, they call them truckitarians.   Right?   You know, they, you know, like,   jeez,   what's his name? But, anyway,   coined the term. That's the one. Truck Truck   Yeah. Truck Yeah. Truckitarians.  

You know? Yeah. And and so, you know,   these individuals, I don't know what they even think. Think, hey. Wait a minute. Maybe I could get, like, a milk carton and some dirt or whatever and, you   know, and grow grow some plants from just from the stuff I'm buying.   You know?   Yeah. I mean, that should be that should be a movement. It should be a priority.  

[04:37:06] Unknown:

You know? Is to get really good organic food too because then you know the seeds are good.  

[04:37:12] Unknown:

Right.   You know? And heirloom seeds and all that, it should be   it should be a priority. Also,   the guy that came out,   on, it was, first of all,   I think it was   on,   Telegram.   It was on Telegram and then on   on,   you see it on Substack too.   But,   electric culture,   right   Yeah. Is another another excellent way,   to generate   big yields,   You know?  

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Copper copper rods near the plants. Yeah. Yeah.  

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Exactly.   Mhmm. You know?   We we shouldn't be,  

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dictated to by these, these by big ag, in other words. And, like, they're taking all the copper piping out. Right? And that actually helps clean   water. The stuff they replace it with, either lead or plastic or whatever, isn't nearly   as beneficial as copper.  

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Yeah. I think his name was Matt Matt Rieske, I think, is his name, if I'm not mistaken.   But he he started doing all those all those,   videos on electric culture.   And,   I just hopped right on that train, and I'd I've been doing it for about three years now. And, man, it   huge difference. I mean, huge difference   in in yields and the quality   of the, produce. Unbelievable.   Uh-huh. I mean, last year, I I only had two cucumber plants,   and I don't know how many cucumbers I had. I must have had I don't know. I can't even it was hundreds. Let's just put it that way.   And, I ended up giving £30 away to my local few food bank because I just didn't know what to do with the rest of them. I mean, I've done a bunch of canning and, you know, pickles and relish and, you know, and stuff like that. And I was like, you know, I've   I still got yield. At the end of the growing season, I still had 30 pounds that I had to do something with.  

But took them down to the local food bank.   You know?  

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Mhmm. Yeah.  

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I mean, you know and I mean, this stuff is unreal. What you know, the, the electric culture thing is is it is the real deal. You will get big yields, and you will get perfect looking produce too, which is which freaks you right out because it's like if you've never, you know, if you've grown gardens for a while, you're always kinda disappointed with, you know, some of your produce. It does it doesn't look perfect. Well,   use the electric culture and, man, it looks perfect.   I mean, it you know, there are there's no blemishes. It looks looks just like you just bought at the store. You know?  

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That's great.  

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Yeah. Oh, yeah, man. I I swear by it. You know?   Been there. Like I said, I I just leave my poles up. I've got they extend   they're eight footers, and they extend six feet up, and then I wrap the, heavy gauge copper wire around it around each one.   And,   you know, he tells you well, there's a   you just do the math on your square footage and, it'll determine how many   how many poles you have to put up or whatever, but I just put two up, one at one at the front of the garden, one at the back of the garden, and that does the trick.   So, yeah,   I swear by it. And in fact,   they tell you that that's the way it used to be that, you know, when,   the farmers and all that, that's how they used to do it. And for whatever reason, I cannot recall now, but   they were saying that they got away,   that became   they, like, poo pooed it or whatever. They got away from it, and then they started going all these chemicals and all this other crap, and it was like,   just disaster at that point. You know?  

Now we have to deal with, you know, the chemicals and all the crap in our food and, you know, it's unreal.   We shouldn't have to.   You know?  

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Well, they're killing us in so many ways. That's that's a major one, but it's only one.  

[04:41:25] Unknown:

Yeah. But it's just it's simple stuff like that that that would in in in   I think in many ways would start a revolution. You know? We we could finally,   you know, start to   nub our noses at at big ag.   You know?  

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Mhmm.  

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You know? And and, like, in my case, I can't grow year round.   You know? I mean, I'm in Idaho, so, you know, I can only grow till, like, October.   You know? And that's about it. And then, you know,   gotta wait until spring.   You know? The only other way to get around that is to either have a greenhouse or just, you know, grow some stuff inside the house. You know?  

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Mhmm.  

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But   but, you know, I mean, that's these are the things that, you know, people can do to try to,   you know, at least eat somewhat healthy,   you know, or have your own stuff that you can or whatever.   You know?   Save the seeds,   grow your own plants, whatever it may be. You know, there's there's ways to go about it so you can get around it.  

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Yep.  

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So you can at least have something healthy. You know?   But, yeah, it that whole the whole game with nutrition and all that, it's   it's difficult, man. And and then, like,   you know, Murr,   god bless you. I mean, you you know, you were like, hey. Look. You know? I I you you make your decision and you stick with it. You know? You're not changing your   changing your mind or your your, your constitution and whatsoever.  

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Well, you know, it's so surprised me because I'll have really you know, it seems factual, but as soon as I'm shown   that it's not what I thought it was and it's this way, I have to go with that.   Yeah. You know? And trust what I'm being shown. And, it just   you know, and I heard this before about about the Earth not moving, and,   it didn't resonate at the time. I wasn't ready for the information, apparently.   But the thing is the math is the same. If the Earth was moving,   right, and the universe was still or if the universe is moving and the Earth is still, the math is the same.   But the earth has never been proven to be moving.  

Never.   Right. Do you know how people argue about this and that experiment? Well, there were several experiments and all of them showed the earth is not   moving.  

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Yeah. And and but you can see, though,   you know, how an individual would just take that simple premise, what you just mentioned, that simple,   theory   And say, okay.   And and they would go, okay. So   what other things that I've been told, you know, are you know? And and yeah. And that's where you start to get, you know, the flat earth and, you know, and all that. And, you know, never been to the moon. You know, whatever it is. Okay? You could see why people,   you know, would question what they've been told. You know? Well, they're not asking for guidance, I'd say,  

[04:44:39] Unknown:

from the highest source.   You know?   It's fine and dandy to look at all the good things people do, but if they're totally opposed to what's   being shown us to be true,   well, then you have to question   them and their motives.   And then   you can take some from them, but   question it. And and this is the thing that gets me about I I did a show I called it perfidious and duplicitous.   All these Jews, all these different Jews that they do a good thing over here, but at the exact same time, they're doing something horrible.  

[04:45:16] Unknown:

Oh, yeah.   Yeah. It's you know, I I have to be honest. I whenever I see a a an article about any of that anymore,   the Ukraine war or the Jews or whatever, I just ignore it. I won't even read it anymore.  

[04:45:29] Unknown:

You know, like,   Greenwald. Right? He and his little team went and and, found Snowden, but 17 intel agencies couldn't?   Come on.   You know? And he did reveal some stuff. It it was good he did. But that doesn't make it all true that he talks about   far from it. He's part of an op.   You know? They say it's in Russia. How do we know he's in Russia? We don't know that. Now we don't. That both of his legs were broken and that Benny, if you remember from NSA   Oh, yeah. Has put diabetes or whatever, and his legs were removed.   Now that's a kneecap into the extreme. You know, that's known to be a mafia. Yeah. There's two people that were kneecapped   personally in my life. I know. You know, one did their dress Have  

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you And have you ever done a   a show on,   on that theme? You know, people who have just, you know, conveniently disappeared over the years?  

[04:46:29] Unknown:

Yeah. I I think I've looked into that a little bit sometimes. And and you know what's funny is a lot of times these people,   like,   in Germany, you know, after World War two, there was a place where people could get cosmetic, you know, plastic surgery.   So they weren't the same person anymore.  

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It's kinda like that movie Face Off.  

[04:46:51] Unknown:

I don't know all that. But, yeah, I get the premise. Yep. Yeah. Well, base yeah. That's yeah.  

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All they all they did in that was they they, like, switched   identities or whatever.   John Travolta played one guy, and,   Nick Cage played the other one.   And they were like,   yeah. And then they they, like, put different masks on or whatever to make them look like the other guy or whatever. I remember seeing the traveler and thinking it was hokey,   but I don't think I watched it. Yeah. Well, you know, you'd watch Mission Impossible, right, and all those, and they're that's what they're doing.   You know? They're you know, they've got this technology to make them look like, you know, someone else. Right? They don't invest this millions and billions in movies to entertain the goi. Alright?  

[04:47:39] Unknown:

Yes. It's always about predictive programming   and   making you accept whatever it is that they're gonna do. And one that really hit home with me was just from the very beginning, minority report.   You had all the concrete with the see through board, and they're doing all this and that. And and I'm like, oh, boy. This is what they're gonna bring down on us.  

[04:48:02] Unknown:

Yeah.   I wouldn't call it old. I mean, for all old to me is like, you know, chitty chitty bang bang or something. You know? But,   you know, that well, I saw that when I was a kid. So, you know It's in this millennium. Right? It's been Yeah. Yeah.   Yeah.   I I remember I remember going to the theater to watch those, all of the old movies.   That was a lot of fun.   Way back way back when.   Yeah. I never went to the theater that awful much, but, I guess Before we became, as aware as we are today. Let's put it that way.   And it's it's funny when you look back on your life, you know, and you go, man, all the crap that I just, you know, just just bought, you know, just,   you know, just I'm just gonna play this Dave. And just bought it hook, line, and sinker, you know.  



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Why make these giant   screens with surround sound? Make sure it gets in your head. Alright?  

[04:49:00] Unknown:

Yeah. Yeah. You start to realize that, you know, it's,   I I don't know what you call it. It's just I I just,   you know, you get to where you get so much information and then you kinda start connecting the dots. And then you think you kinda have a decent idea of what's going on. You know?   And then you start to disbelieve a lot of the stuff that you once believed. You know?   It's,   it gets,   it gets   very strange as you get older because,   you know, you start to go, you know, man,   there's just  

[04:49:35] Unknown:

a lot of fraud in the world. You know? You see the spiritual demarcation more clearly. It seems  

[04:49:42] Unknown:

Yeah. I I think you're right. Exactly. Yeah. That's exactly right. You do.   You know? It it it you do become,   more connected if you will. Will.   Then I've always been I've always been the type that I I care about my fellow man. So, you know, I've I've always been that way. So I've I've never been the type that,   you know, I I I could I could never not care about a fellow human. You know? I just can't do that. You know? Well, that's one, you know, real marker of satanism is selfishness.  

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And in fact, that's,   who Pacio, who said he was a satanist, and then he keeps all his   state satanic trinkets around. But he said it's just selfishness. It's really, you know, extreme selfishness. And,  

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and Oh, yeah.  

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If you don't come to Christ,   if you don't get in there, you're not getting out of it. Sorry. You may think you are. Oh, I'm no longer a Satanist. I keep all this stuff around me. Yeah. Well, guess what?  

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So,   you're thinking that they can't be redeemed then?  

[04:50:48] Unknown:

Oh, no. No. No. Not at all.   They don't wanna be redeemed  

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unless you want to be redeemed and No. No. No. I mean, I mean, like like like in the afterlife.   Right? Or, you know, when they when they go to meet the maker. Right?  

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No. No. Eventually   you know, this is one thing I say that I learned from doctor Day in her studying,   universal restoration.   Eventually,   every knee will bow. Every eye will see him. Everyone   will come to him.   We are his creation, and he bought us with a price.   And we love Yeah. So So   we have to reap what we've sown.   We will feel   in our bodies what we've done to other people.  

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Right.   And then   okay. So  

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remake everything. He made And so then  

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come the judgment   so then come the judgment. You know? Let's say, okay. You've reached that day. Yeah. It's judgment day, and,   you're either allowed in   or you're cast out. But if you're cast out,   you have an opportunity to redeem. Is that correct?  

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Yeah. Yeah. It's not permanent. You still have to reap what you've sown, and, eventually,   we all will.   And this held up is is nonsense   when you look at it. Okay. He's the loving father, and his ways are higher than our ways. Well, we wouldn't if if our child did something wrong, we wouldn't burn them forever, would we?  

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Oh, heck no.  

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Well,   he's much higher than us. You think he's gonna burn people forever?   That's retarded.  

[04:52:29] Unknown:

No. He just he just wants them to,   basically to eventually,   become   the being   become the spirit or being that they were supposed to be.  

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Recognize real that's what reality is. We're all part of him. We all come from him, and it's all about glorifying him. And glorifying him makes us healthy and strong   and joyful, and we obey   those few commandments. Those are his law. They're not Jude's law.  

[04:52:59] Unknown:

Right? I think we need a lot more of that in our world. I I agree with you.  

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And if you look at it we can burn,  

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then if if if you believe we can sit there and burn forever,   that's crazy. A piece of wood can only burn for so long. Like, it's not it's not burning sensation.   Hell isn't a burning sensation   that we,   of a flame   an exact flame. It's   it's in our minds. It's it's   our eternal spirit.   It's it's a burning of our spirit that saddened essentially.  

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But No. Go go ahead, man. I I was just clearing my throat on the story. That's my thought. I I don't  

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that's what I've been taught. And, you know, you can only burn a piece of wood for so long. So why   why would you be   in hell, fire, and brimstone? Like, it makes no sense. It's it's our eternal spirit   that knows that we could have done better,   and we'd be blessed with more by being   better, whatever whatever better is,   and whatever better can become   in order for us to experience   life with God again,   you know, we we need to be our our best self. Love thy neighbor, you know.   Brent Brent always points out that, oh, we we we don't have to do works,   you know, because Christ paid   the penal   price price paid the the debt   through the atonement,   which he did,   but we still need to do our part, which is   to do those works. And it's not it's not   carrying a shovel, or it could be. I mean, if it if that's helping your neighbor, you know, if that's being your best with people.  

But   no. You're not. And I think I think I   think you you get a lot of stuff on the head on this whole topic.   You know? Do you have to change your understanding throughout your life? Absolutely. You do. You you can't stand on your constitution.   If your constitution   is slightly modified, you have to modify it.   Yeah. Of course. Exactly. But that's that's what we do. And I learned I learned a lot listening to you guys. I learned a lot in my faith.   You know?   Will make fun of my faith, but and so I don't bring it up a lot. But at the same time,   I think there is an eternal plan. It's it's not the plan isn't just to come here and and live. It's the eternal plan   that   we set up in a premortal existence,   and   we chose to follow God's plan,   not not Satan's plan, not not to be a slave. Satan wanted to make us all slaves, make it so that we had no choice.  

You know? I'll make I'll make them essentially, I'll make them follow your plan, God,   for that's against God. So that's why   Christ Christ, his idea was, no. I'll I'll let them have choice,   and we'll we'll teach them essentially to to the ways. And and if we don't have a chance to teach them on earth, we'll teach them in heaven. You know? There there's those that haven't had a chance to learn the truth here on   earth. You know? There there's always that. Yeah. And the the  

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utopia   the utopia would be that if every single,   human being,   were to, live that way. Right?  

[04:56:34] Unknown:

Well, I imagine.   Yeah. I mean, we we all we all are we all are gonna have equal   chance,   if that makes sense,  

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to Well, I I was thinking in I was thinking in terms of in terms of, you know,   a a synergy.   You know?   So   I understand that, you know,   we can't be inside each other's,   you know, body. But,   if we were all to,   to observe,   the way,   of,   of Christ, right,   if we all live that way,   we would be able to do things that we currently can't do because,   there's too many things that get in the way.   You know? Well, it's fine.   In other words, synergistically,   as as a as a as a human race,   we   we would should be able to elevate,   from where we are.  

[04:57:44] Unknown:

Which yeah. Life, we do that. I mean, I I think we do. Some some of us go backwards, some go forward, but, you know, it's a road map. We all we all have   a a place.   It's just how do we get there.  

[04:57:56] Unknown:

We're not all gonna get it right. Not all the time. I mean, I I'm not saying that we did should be a hive mind, but but it it there should be a   a a a spirituality   that permeates through through every every human.  

[04:58:12] Unknown:

And that's it for the Radio Ranch for,   what is this? Monday or Tuesday?   I completely   brain farted it. I think it's Monday the eighth.   Our website is thematrixdocs.com,   thematrix,docs.com.   Check it out there. You can find links to free conference call, and, you can dial those up right now and actually join this after call discussion.   But if I don't take the screen down, it's gonna completely screw up the algorithm. So thanks for joining us for the Radio Ranch   with Roger Sales.   Ciao. Blasting the voice of freedom worldwide, you're listening to the Global Voice Radio Network.  

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Bye bye, boys. Have fun storming the castle.