On this Saturday Radio Ranch edition, we kick things off with quick housekeeping on where to listen and a roll‑call of partner platforms before diving into a wide‑ranging, caller‑driven discussion. We touch on the week’s talk‑radio currents (Harrison Smith’s show, Alex Jones, Lionel), media censorship worries, and why some listeners swear off social media. From there, we shift into our core topic: political status and jurisdiction. I welcome Oliver (a naturalized Irish‑American) and lay out how our “national vs. federal citizen” framework works in practice, why words like resident and citizen carry hidden legal weight, and how to avoid common patriot‑myth pitfalls (e.g., admiralty flags, all‑caps names). We also reference key cases (Elk v. Wilkins, Plessy v. Ferguson, Wong Kim Ark) and the CFR/USC provisions that callers asked about. Listeners share experiences with IRS notices, traffic stops, jury summonses, and practical next steps, including how to respond timely, keep disputes out of court when possible, and continue studying with our community resources (interviews, case law, and primers). Along the way we spotlight helpful sites (Brent Winters’ Common Lawyer), where to catch replays (Infowars’ American Journal archive), and even a musical nod to Loreena McKennitt for weekend vibes. As always, new listeners are welcome—bring your questions, keep an open mind, and be ready to unlearn and relearn together.
- Global Voice Radio Network (live/replays hub): https://globalvoiceradio.net/
- Euro Folk Radio (syndication site mentioned): https://eurofolkradio.com/
- The American Journal with Harrison Smith (show page): https://www.infowars.com/show/american-journal/
- DeepCapture (Patrick Byrne’s site): https://www.deepcapture.com/
- Common Lawyer (Brent Allan Winters): https://commonlawyer.com/
- United States Court of International Trade (official site): https://www.cit.uscourts.gov/
- Plessy v. Ferguson, 163 U.S. 537 (1896) – Library of Congress: https://www.loc.gov/item/usrep163537/
- United States v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649 (1898) – Library of Congress: https://www.loc.gov/item/usrep169649/
- Elk v. Wilkins, 112 U.S. 94 (1884) – Library of Congress: https://www.loc.gov/item/usrep112094/
- 26 CFR § 1.1‑1 (Income tax on individuals) – LII: https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/26/1.1-1
- 42 U.S.C. § 1983 (Civil action for deprivation of rights) – LII: https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/42/1983
- EducatedInLaw.org (blog referenced in discussion): https://www.educatedinlaw.org/
- FreeConferenceCall (live call‑in platform used): https://www.freeconferencecall.com/
- Loreena McKennitt (official site): https://loreenamckennitt.com/
- General Michael T. Flynn (official site): https://www.generalflynn.com/
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As would we, as would we, and we get up on a Saturday morning even to get up and try and change the world. How about that? Just dedication, motivation. Here we go. Radio Ranch Saturday edition, Sabado. If you wanna take your Spanish lesson for the day. Roger Sales, your host, Radio Ranch. It is the December 6, college football playoff day. Paul, I think we have a very light compliment of, people that assist us today. Is that correct, or is that different today for some reason?
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I'm telling you, we're lighter than Jenny Craig. We've got, eurofolkradio.com. Thanks to pastor Eli James. We've got radio.globalvoiceradio.net, rumble.globalvoiceradio.net. Radiosoapbar soapbox.tv. Uh-huh. Soapboxtv.net.
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Oh. I'm I'm not I'm not exactly sure which which one that is. Just a sec. We got a whole bunch of folks we usually don't have on Saturdays, so that's good.
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Yeah. Well, Eurofolk is brought to us by pastor Eli James and all the other platforms I bring to the mix. So we've got four video and one audio platform that I bring to the mix. So we're still on six.
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Yeah. Well, I mean, we wanna give them proper credit and recognition for joining us at the hip and see if we could spread this thing a little bit more, put the tentacles out further, as they say, Paul.
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So you got to fix all of them? If we weren't so antiseptic, I could also put us on at least two YouTube channels too. Oh, lord. I don't think that would last long.
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It probably wouldn't. I think AI would bounce us out of there pretty quick. Yeah. They would take Anyway, well, that's, hey. Guess what? We got no no social media either. You know, I I like Jim Willie. He says, I'm on no social media channels. Good, Jim. Me either. I wanted to say I saw a delightful pastor, new to me, probably to most of us, on Thursday on Harrison Smith's show in the second hour. And all I know is his first name is Joel, and he has a church there in North Of Austin somewhere. But, boy, the the this guy sounded like you were listening to a young Brent. Okay?
And, it was just fascinating. He he upsets all kinds of people, putting out traditional things like the differences in the Is it Joel Olsteen?
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Pardon me? Is it Joel Olsteen?
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I don't think it's Olsteen. No. He's he's the crystal palace kinda guy, but he's just really refreshing young preacher. He looks to be in his, I don't know, thirties, maybe mid thirties, early thirties. He's a great mind and he's, pissing all kinds of people off. One of the things he said is he goes, yes. I'm an anti semite. Would you like to hear some of my other good qualities? Yeah. The kind of guy I like and, nice sense of humor. And if you wanna get a refreshing view of some of the young pastors and spiritual folks coming up, he's a Protestant. Over there on the second hour, he did almost the entire second hour with Harrison on Thursday.
And I wish I could remember his name, and, but he you may wanna go check him out out of curiosity. I meant to mention that yesterday, and we were interrupted pleasantly, by the the visitor from the East. And, always a pleasure to have mister English drop by. He's just such a delightful guy. I mean, really, one of the one of the real, things that's happened to me over all my years in the patriot movement is crossing paths with Paul. Just enjoy him tremendously. So it's always a pleasure when he drops by. Threatened to drop by again for the end of the year there at the last fall. Yes. He threatened to drop by again. How was the show on Thursday over there? The the the English show on Thursday because it was getting better. Loads of fun.
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Yeah. We had, Frederick Blackburn, Blackburn nine. He showed up for, the Oh, yeah. That guy. The that's the guy that likes to do the comedy. Thinks he's,
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he he should have, been on stage as a stand up comic. Right? The same guy. Right? Yeah. Yeah. Same guy. Yeah. Yeah. He's alright. Good. Well, let's see what's going on this morning. I was hoping I kept thinking Ollie was, maybe gonna be with us. That's today. And if he's gonna start coming around on these Saturday shows because he works during the week, Paul, I guess we know, found out. You're gonna need to load up Lorena McKennett for him one of these Saturday mornings and give that intro, that that lovely, lovely flaming red hair Irish lassie with that angelic voice that goes to octaves almost unreachable by others.
Wonderful artist, Lorena McKennett. So here we go on the Saturday edition. What I don't know of anything that really happened yesterday when I saw that, Mark with us today? Argue with us? Yes. He is. Easy. Mark came in. Well, Mark dropped me a, hey, Mark. Morning. Mark dropped me a, a message, yesterday talking about how Alex Jones is on fire. Of course, it looks like we're about to go into a civil war. The the enemy is losing. Man, at every turn, they're getting exposed like crazy, and they're they're getting desperate, it would appear, from some of the moves that are showing up. I wish I could come up with one right off the top of my head, but there's a number of them. How are you doing, Mark?
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Doing okay. Doing okay. I mean, it was, let's see. When was that? Was that Thursday show or Friday? That thing no. I think it was Thursday's you were talking about. Yeah. Oh, might have been yesterday's. Yeah. I think it was yesterday's because I was listening to it live. Alex is just totally exposing their game plan, and he's not the only one. The attorney, Lionel, who I I used to follow pretty closely Yeah. He come out with a video, and I guess him and Alex are, you know, phone buddies and talk quite a bit. And he you know, Alex was saying, yeah, what what Lionel had was not only spot on, but it was even more detailed than what Alex even had put together.
So he was really giving him some kudos on that. So, what it comes down to they talked about first the CIA method of overthrowing other countries.
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Call them revolutions.
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Right. Right. So there's a whole very systematic way of doing that. And sometimes it can happen real quickly, sometimes it doesn't. A lot depends on how unified the country is, its citizens. If you're Of course the first thing they want to do is start dividing up groups of people and so you got factions of citizens fighting against each other. Maybe not physically fighting but politically fighting and then they start making the current leadership appear to be illegitimate or they stole an election or whatever. And then the factions that's against the president. Well, the next step right before they overthrow the country is they infiltrate the military.
Yeah. And they they get the mindset of the military not to support their commander in chief or their president, depending on what they call it in their their country. Right? So their head leader, who they're trying to overthrow, they get the military to psychologically say, you don't have to follow any of those orders. And if you step back, that's exactly what they've been doing in The United States. I mean, to the
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to check every box, they're doing it with us Yeah. And Trump.
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Yeah. And it's okay. And and as Lionel said, it it's a very slow coup. But but nonetheless, it's in full gear. It's an absolute full gear, and they know what they're doing. I'm just praying that Trump will expose them because I think, you know, sunlight is the most the best disinfectant on these scumbags. Oh, yeah. They scurry. Once you know yeah. Once you know the game and everybody else knows the game,
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then it's it's over without even firing a shot. Well, it's kinda like what we do here. Once we figured it out, you ain't got a chance because you can't do anything except to expose yourself more.
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Okay. That's true.
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Yes. Evidently, Trump thank goodness for some of these, Michael Flynn. I mean, thank goodness Michael Flynn didn't take one of these positions inside the government. He can be this agent, roving agent for Trump that can get back to him and give him some of these. Did you hear, Mark, the, guy with overstock? Oh, I can't think of his name right now. It's, but he's been behind the scenes doing espionage work. Originally, he didn't know it. He was under the pin of Obama.
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No. Is that Altman?
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No. It's not Altman. It's, the Patrick Burns.
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K? Okay. You know what I'm talking about? Patrick Burns?
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He's been on the overstock, but I I couldn't I couldn't I don't miss Patrick Burns at all. Well, the guy was a billionaire,
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and, he got recruited to get into these behind shadowy scenes activities under Obama, not knowing it, and has been in that espionage world for some time and has spent almost all of his money, and, spent a lot of time in Venezuela. So he's the one no. You didn't hear about this. He's the one that found the guy that defected that was under both Chavez and Maduro as their head intelligent agent that set up this whole election thing with the with ScanMatic. K? Okay. And they defected. Him and somebody else and Patrick Burns, they defected to him. And he, out of his own pocket, paid for him to get out of Venezuela, put him over in Switzerland.
Now the guy has been charged and has caught, and he was charged with a drug offense that he had been charged with back around 2011. And he's sitting in Rikers Island. Guess who his cellmate is? P Diddy.
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P Diddy. Oh my goodness.
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So this guy, they sneak it into. He said the the CIA and that creep that's behind, Pam Bondi, Todd Blanchard, I think is his name. Yeah. They're desperately trying to, okay, keep him out of contact, but they somehow smuggled in a paralegal that spent months in there with this guy dictating to him all this stuff and signing all these things. You you you man, I hope you're sitting down. You hadn't heard this. Right? Do you know how many countries, elections they've been meddling in for twenty years?
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Oh, no telling. Oh, yeah. Go ahead. Take a whack. I I can only imagine.
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Seventy Seventy something?
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Countries, they've been manipulating their elections for twenty years with these smart medic machines.
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Wow.
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Yeah. Is that not new to on that? You know, he said he said, that when the he was with, colonel Flynn when he was getting this information, he said colonel Flynn, the consummate warrior, was just stone faced, calm faced all the way through the interview. And he said at the very end, the guy goes, let me tell you this. Just what I just told you. He said Flynn's face turned white.
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Wow.
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Now that has gone back to to Trump. Trump's aware of this. What does that mean? This is why we're gonna Pardon
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me? Mean by Flynn? He couldn't believe it was that much when he said his face turned white, like he was shocked. Yeah. Well, he was shocked at thinking about
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what they've been fighting twenty years in the control of these guys. They would never do that in The US. Oh, no. No. They would never have those guys. No. No. No. No. United States. No. No. It was in The US too. And, anyway, all that that being facetious. Part that's partially why we're, going into Venezuela is this is the major part of it. It's not necessarily the drugs and some of those other things. Those are being used as excuses. But here's the other thing. Get this. Get this. When The US was laying Internet cable down to South America, they lay a trunk cable out in the in the Gulf Of America, right, along the coast, and then they branch off little jack legs in and jack it into the country. Venezuela called the Russians, and the Russians sent over their technical experts, and they've been tapped into our whole internal system for, god knows, twenty years.
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Who's been tapped into our system? The Russians?
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Russians. Okay. Venezuela, let them tap into their yeah. You let them tap into their Internet tap, and it's got all this stuff going right into government, databases, everything. They've had access to everything in our country for almost twenty years.
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Wow. Well, when you're part of the globalist cabal and, you know, all's fair.
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So I know Samuel and I have had some, discussions on this. Samuel said, oh, don't go over there. You're gonna hear, you know, all the things I can understand. But this is one that everybody's on there. I mean, he Patrick Burns, all these other people. Look. Look. I've been anti war since Vietnam, but we've got to do this. We gotta do it. Wow. Yep. So it's very close. They're and and not only that, Mark, get this. That's where all of the dims and sorrows are there wandering a bunch of their money through there Sure. On top of everything else.
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Well, that in Ukraine, that's the most Yeah. Up to the war, that was the most, you know reportedly by all the top newspapers that Ukraine was the most corrupt country in the world. And that's where tons of money would flow through for kickbacks and that's how these politicians become wealthy Mhmm. Is they're circulating money through there, and it makes its way back through different channels Yeah. Into their pockets.
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And and for those of you who might be unaware, Ukraine was the Khazars. You've heard the expression beyond the pale? Yeah. That's Ukraine. That's Ukraine. This is their ancient homelands where they were relegated to. K? This is why they hate the Russians so much to this day because the Rus came down from the North before it was Russia and broke up that kingdom. And they broke up that Qasr kingdom and all of them, most of them went into Eastern Europe. Those are all your international bankers. Those are the Ashkenazi Jews. So this has got ancient history behind it. And as we know from these folks and their well, let's say their relationship with the Arabs, they don't forget. They carry grudges.
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Sure. Sure. It gets passed down from one generation to the next.
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And they are the haters. See? They're all the hate in the world to to me almost emanates from them. Okay?
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Not all of this is a great story. About Smartmatic because Mike Lindell, the pillow guy, he's under a big lawsuit by the same company. And now because this has all come out, they've dropped all their lawsuits against everybody else except for Mike. Except him. Uh-huh. Did you hear his announcement yesterday? Yeah. He's running for governor of Minnesota. Governor governor of Minnesota. I think he'll have a really good chance of winning too. He very well met. Timing for that's really good.
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So, another guy, multimillionaire, they'll spend everything he had fighting this battle in the last four years. They've just about they've tried to literally run him not only in the ditch, but make him go into the culvert. Yeah. I mean, they have really been after him.
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If you ever heard his personal story, and he was a he was a drug addict, a serious drug addict. He was a crack addict. Yeah. And and and found Jesus Found Jesus and got healed up. He was so bad that his dealers come in and stopped him. Said we're like cutting you off. And and primarily because they were seriously concerned that he was about to die from Yeah. From the level of of drugs that he was taking. I mean, that's pretty bad when your own drug dealer show up and don't want you to die. Well So Time me off. No. No. Of course, they lose a customer. Yeah.
Right. Of course, they lose a customer, but really, I think that's just God's intervention. You know, God will use anything to to move people. If you're so stubborn, you can't you can't see the the signals, he'll send somebody else to send the signals for you. Yes. He will. Yes. He will. So And then he gets out of that. He shakes he shakes that addiction.
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He gets out and starts this My Pillow company and builds a multimillion dollar fortune for himself after being a crack addict. I mean, come on. These are really exceptional people, folks. Exceptional. Yes. Was that someone trying to get in there and say something? I didn't hear anybody. I thought I did. Okay. So, anyway, that's the new deal. Mike Mendel's running for governor, and I'll bet tampon Tim is shaking in his tampon Oh, all it is. Containers. He's gotta be. Did,
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did you see where where Trump, terminated the temporary protected status for Somalians in Minnesota? Yes. And he talked about Somalian gangs are terrorizing, the people in the great state of Minnesota.
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Do you know what the latest is on how much they've, well, I'd say stolen. You could say embezzled, kindness. I know you could billions. Three. I know it's in the Three. But I don't know. Still counting. 3,000,000,000 Yeah. And counting. Now for the audience, you might not understand this. Start throwing these, trillions, billions around out there. Let's put it into something we can all relate to. Time. So if you had a million seconds, Mark, it'd be about eleven and a half days. K. A billion seconds is thirty three and a half years.
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Wow.
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A billion is a million million. Yeah. A trillion no. A thousand. A trillion is a thousand billion. A thousand trillion is a quadrillion. And that's where we're up to in the amount of derivatives out there in the quadrillions. Oh my gosh. Talking about a house
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my gosh. Talking about a house of cards.
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Well, it's very close to Topplin, folks. That's why I keep preaching on here, please, if you can get some medals. You know, we're talking yesterday, Miles Franklin, Sheckman, and Hawthorne, all those guys. They got a a bunch of junk silver. And what happened was years ago when they made that change, people went out and stocked up on junk silver. And now all of a sudden, there's he he will sell you junk silver with silver doing what it's doing. The finest way to hold silver in the world is junk silver for American coins. No premium.
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Yeah.
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No premium on something that is minted by the government, recognized yes, sir. Just a second. Recognized by people, and accepted on something where you have small amounts and you don't have to require change. It's a excellent way to own some sort of protector for your wealth. Now who was saying hello there? Good good morning.
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Good morning there. It's Oliver. Just, a Hey, Oliver. Good morning.
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Hey, man. Now let me introduce you to Mark. Ollie, let me introduce you to Mark here. Mark's our kinda paralegal guy. He's been a paralegal over twenty years. He's a friend to the show, and he's around most of the time. He's taking care of his parents right now, which distracts him a bit. We don't get to see him as much. Ollie stumbled in last week after the show. I've always wanted to call somebody Ollie. So sorry, Oliver. Yeah. And, and, he's he's Irish. He's naturalized, and he got into this status change stuff. I'm gonna have him tell us the whole story here because first time we've really had him on the air on this Saturday because he works. And I'd like to know your whole story, Oliver, but I want to introduce you to Mark and some of the rest of the folks.
We have folks on here on Saturday that can't, like you, can't be with us other days of the week. So, anyway, welcome to the group, Ollie, and we'd like to find out something about you. Besides, we know that you're Irish. We know you immigrated. And, are you a dual citizen still?
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Yeah. I am. I am. I am. Yeah. I am a Jewish Well, at least it's not Israel. Oh, oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Of course. Of course. Of course. And I I just wanted to make a quick reply to you about your last comment just before I go into the whole story or just a little story about myself. I I just wondered, does it matter about The US debt if all the the the the debt is is owed in US Dollars?
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Well, it makes a difference to the people that are trying to pay the debt off with it that don't have it. That's where they really take over these small countries. They load them up with loans. They're all based in dollars. They have their own local currency or something. And when they got to pay that debt back, it's got to be paid back in dollars. That's Argentina's problem. Oh, I I know it's they went on the dollar here.
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No. No. No. I I'm I'm my my question is that, does it matter for America that it owes a national debt like that? Because they can print away out of that. No. They can print any amount of dollars and from nothing Well pay off their own net in debt. Am I am I What's my reason to say that? I'm I'm asking the question.
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Okay. Well, how about if I told you that if our information got out, there wouldn't be any debt because it's all based on fraud? Yeah. That's true. That's a good answer. Thank you. Thank you. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No. No. No problem. Thank you very much, sir. And see, that's part of why we scare them so badly because part of what we do here is pull you out of the IRS. And when you pull somebody out of the IRS, that's where they've got you yoked to the wagon with all that pile of debt there that you and your grandchildren and their grandchildren are supposed to pay with all this user's compound interest, compounding on other compounded interest. But all that's based on fraud, and we can prove it.
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Right. Right. Excuse me. Go ahead. And,
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so that's another reason. I think they're real real scared of this. They got no answers. They got no answers. They can't come back and do anything except take the mask off and be open tyrants. That's our only option. With our process, we put them right into the corner, and we put them right in Checkmate. There's not a damn thing they can do about it.
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How about that? Yeah. They told them any answer. Right? But I've I have yet to see an answer. Right? But
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yeah. Yeah. Well, I can tell you we've been doing this on the air with folks for fifteen years. Yeah. Probably going on sixteen. And out of all the people that have ever done this, and I think there's probably millions, there never been one objection. Occasionally, we'll get a what we term a bluff letter. They'll try and see just how much you know and see if they can fool you again. Once you know their game, you can see right through it. And there's never been an action on come blow back on anybody. That's reported it to me. K? So anyway, that's what we got. We got a pretty unblemished track record, Oliver, and I'm I gotta tell you, I'm damn proud of it. K?
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Hey, Ralph. No. No. Yeah. Yeah. No. You you asked the questions about myself. I just, I tell you what, I just stumbled on this whole thing couple years ago, through David Strait, whom I met. I was at a conference with I never went the full way about becoming a state analysis. I also looked into Patrick Devine as well. I don't know if you ever heard of him, Patrick Devine. No. Uh-uh. Did you did you ever hear of the the Granada, Granada Forum? No? It it was around the forum. Uh-huh. It it was around about the time the Tesla Forum. Do you remember the Tesla Forum where you had all these speakers around Las Vegas?
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I don't remember any of that stuff, but, I will tell you, I don't know how closely you followed mister Strait. And I don't mean to, oh, beseech the dead, but mister Strait taught people a lot of crap. And one of the things we'll try and do is get that stuff out of your mind if you ever let it in there, like admiralty law, law stands for land, air, and water, all this kind of stuff. Well, mister mister Strace is just wrong. He was just absolutely dead wrong. And and, I can prove it. So that's one thing. And I know you mentioned his name the other day, so we'll get to that. Alright? Don't forget the gold French flag. Well, I don't wanna forget What? Are all capital letters or any of that stuff. Man back here. He was
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he was named around itching to tell you about about the old French bus. Well, Oliver needs to know that Mark was
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in the Patriot Movement, was about to get out, stumbled across our information, and he's back. And he has a straw man Oh. Which is another one of his arguments. And he was out. And, so that's one of the reasons Mark loves coming around here is we got the answer, man. There ain't no doubt about it. Okay? There are no ifs or no answers, no buts. I can pretty much back up everything I teach and tell you. And, it's never been addressed in any negative way by the federal government. Now where we have problems, occasionally, I'll get Paul, I'll get you a second, is with traffic stuff.
And the reason for that is because those are all local jurisdictions and they're they're they're not, you know, they're not in agreement. And some of those Boss Hogg and those people that run the county, they don't want some Irishman coming in and telling them about the law.
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Excuse me. No. No. No. I
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I I I don't I don't think well, I mean, I would only tell them to defend myself. I I I don't think it's right to tell someone in their own country what's what. You know? I I really I don't believe in that. But if you have to defend myself, I have to. You know? Well, I do understand that. And that's what we our object is to keep you out of court. Okay? Paul, what what do you got for us? Especially lately, I got a court case out of Oregon, Mark, that was talked about yesterday.
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Is you're just gonna poop your pants. Go ahead, Paul.
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I'm I'm going to respectfully disagree with with one of the statements that you made, and I'll explain when our information gets out and it's on and it's revealed that, the debt is fraud, And the debt doesn't go away because the actual injured people are the people of America who were securitized and monetized and actually backed up the credit, actually created the money. So the debt is owed to the American people. And whether it was based in fraud or not makes no difference because the American people are the ones that have been propping up our monetary system for over ninety years.
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That's very true. Okay? But the, they didn't know that they were the backers of that. They were victims of it in a sense. And so what these people did here's the people that really, are could get harmed are innocent investors that bought those bonds. Mom and pop, some guy over in Europe, whatever. Right? Well, on those bonds, on that birth certificate, there's a number called a CUSIP number, c u s I p. And, evidently, that's the number that they attach to the process where they can because those bonds are sold internationally. They're traded, sold, everything else. So the CUSIP number is how you go back and register the bondholder so they can give the proper bondholder the proper coupon payment.
So you could this theoretical, Paul. If we could ever get into the bowels of the treasury and find out, let's say, the Federal Reserve owns 50% of the bonds, well, we just don't pay them. But the mom and pop people that did went in innocent with eyes open and got defrauded, we do pay them. So there is a way, at least potentially theoretically to deal with that down the line.
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Yeah. Mark, with this.
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Yes. Comment? Oh, go ahead. Yeah. Hold on, Julie. Just let Paul finish.
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That doesn't, that doesn't make allowances for the reparations
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due to the actual people that created it. No. No. We're gonna try you know, theoretically, again, we're gonna go after them and see if we can strip some of their fortunes that they've all gay, gained and on all this fraud lies, sealing the Wall Street, all that crap. Now that that's theoretical. K? Just telling you. And I like to bring up that reparations. Lord, y'all listening? Reparations? You know, you you talked about it with us. Well, how about reparations for us from the people that have enslaved us for ninety four years? How about that? Babylonian captivity, ninety four years this spring, 03/09/1933.
Ninety four years, Julie. Julie. Ninety four. Are you isn't it long enough? Isn't ninety four long enough?
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I would think. Yep. I'll comment.
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Yes, ma'am. Go ahead, Julie.
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What about I think the remedy is the only article three constitutional court in the entire United States, which is the Court of International Trade located in New York City. And since our securities are traded internationally, that would directly involve them. And I think that could potentially be a remedy.
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Could be. We got a lot of people to get and stuff to get organized first before we start attacking that. Those are theoretical things that I've just thought about over the years.
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Mark, get this. Well, I, I printed out I printed out over 685 pages yesterday off of various government websites, about all of our securities about all of our securities and everything, including
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Yes. I'm just absolutely shocked after I read what I read yesterday and the rabbit hole I went down yesterday. Oh, I'm sure. I'm sure it's just that you get deeper and deeper down these layers has gotta be shocking. You're shocking. I got shocking for you, Mark. Okay. Guy in Portland is sitting there on a bench. Black guy comes after him with a knife. Open. His attorney said he wanted to trade a knife for cigarettes. Sure. Or see if the guy had a cigarette. Right. Right. Well, he ends up approaching him, and he ends up stabbing him.
And after the stabbing, evidently not fatally, after the stabbing, the guy that just got stabbed starts hailing expletive deletives at him, including the n word. Evidently, he fit the n word. Yep. So they went to trial. When they found out that he had slurred him after the stabbing, they released the guy and dropped the charges.
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Oh my, after the fact, the guy Yes. The guy gets stabbed first. The crime has already been committed. Correct. But because it cursed him out, called him the n word, they go, well
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Yep. Jury dropped all the charges.
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Oh, that that's why I never use a drew.
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I I don't believe So, Oliver, this is why we wanna keep you out of these Babylonian situations.
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Go ahead, Mark. I stepped on you. Well, you know, Roger wants you around because he can yell out from time to time, ollie ollie oxen free.
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Okay. This this is a rough You caught me with a mouthful of my drink, man. I just always wanna call somebody Ali. You know? Like, what was the old guys in the thirties? Oliver and whatever his name was. That's right, Ali.
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Oliver and Adi. Who,
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Lisa? There we go. Laurel and Hardy. Yeah. There you go. Okay. We got what going on, Mark?
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I got some background noise going on. Echo.
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Okay. Can somebody who's got got their mute open and you've gotten. We're gonna let Paul scout it now, and he's the
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He's It is from Holly.
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Oh, sorry. Oh, Holly?
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Okay. Oh, oh, sorry. Sorry. Excuse me.
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Yeah. That's okay. Yeah. Hi. No problem, man. It's just it distracts from, you know, things we're saying. So we try and keep that. Ollie, let's hear your story, man. Could we? We just asked him to mute himself. Now you're asking him to explain. Well, Ally, he came to the front. I wanna hear a story. We can't ever get to it. Yeah. Yeah. Right here. Right here, sir. Right here, sir. Okay. Yeah. Ollie, can we hear your story? How long you've been in The States now?
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Oh, well, I've been I've been in The States, like, twenty five years.
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Oh, okay. Cool.
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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Long time.
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You stumbled into the status change movement, let's call it. Right?
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Yeah.
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How'd how'd that happen?
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Okay. Well, I think it was around the same time. I I just seen some videos of David Strait on YouTube, some of the stuff he said and and some of the, you know, some of the conferences. There was some, you know, advertising. Like, he he never really comes up this far. He usually stays around the South. I don't think he comes up this far to New York or whatever he's like that. Although, maybe he has, maybe Pennsylvania or somewhere. But then actually, I think he has gone to Pennsylvania. Yeah. But, he came up here, and, I also, there's a fellow called Brandon Joe Williams, which is good as well. I don't know if you've ever heard of him. There's a million people. What?
I've heard of him. Joe Joe Lastica. He's a good guy too. Oh, Lester. Another part. He's one of he's one of our folks. Joe is. Oh, is he he's a great guy. Joe's one of the best. That was fantastic. I I don't know personally. I I don't I think I chatted with him once briefly. And there's another guy called, Hauser, Christopher Hauser. Do you ever hear of him?
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I have not.
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Christopher Hauser. He's an older guy. But he he he does the the habeas corpus thing, you know, all that kind of stuff. He does that kind of thing. For people who, he he actually helps a lot of poor people, you know, switch it. The, 10 w 10 the the form for buying a car or paying rent, people are very poor in them. One zero nine a four, whatever, stuff like that. Maybe I used the number on there. Yeah. Yeah. That's how I stumbled on it. I'd say about four years ago, something like that. Three three years ago, maybe. Yeah. Three years ago. Right. Right. I used the just just add was, I I used the, Brandon Joe Williams method to try and, change my status. And I used the big wolf the big wolf, is it's a he's a guy, online. He does he's on YouTube, the big bad wolf or something. Right. We've heard I used Yeah. We've heard of him. Yeah.
Yeah. I used his, because I needed, I needed something, like, to say because I wasn't born in this country and and and I tried their status. I I did have all the paperwork. I did everything right. And, you know, I got a regular passport, whatever. I mean, they were all at that time, they were talking about the five star and the four star, but I think Joe Lis Lustica came out of the video and he said that it doesn't really matter about the stars too much anymore. That was, like Right. You know,
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we've got an 1835 court case. Still good law on the website. And, the only thing that matters in this whole process is whatever paperwork is in the possession of the secretary of state, if admissible in a court of law, is considered the higher and better evidence. So whatever he's got paperwork wise in in his possession about you, that's what determines. So they did issue you a passport.
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They did issue me a passport. Yeah.
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Okay. What did Brandon Joe Williams stuff, if you could remember, what exactly was did you submit with a passport application? I'm assuming you submitted what he planned with the passport application. Right?
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Yeah. Yeah. No. No. No. I I, yeah. Yeah. No. I I'd have to look into it. I haven't I haven't here filed it away somewhere, but but I have the paperwork, still on the computer. I think I have it. Yeah. I've all I had to print stuff out and things like that. And, yeah. But I also, revoked my election or revocation of election. I had to do that before I did the passport thing
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and, revocation of election. That that was Do you mean with IRS? Are you talking about are you talking about with IRS?
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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I I I got a letter back from them, but it wasn't really, and then I called IRS about it, and they they didn't know end about revocational election. They said it was if you're a dead person, you're doing it for a dead someone that was belonging to you today. And and so, yeah, I mean, that was a couple years ago. I'm sure there's been recent developments in the whole process. So I I gave up on it then. I just thought, okay. I tried. It didn't work out. I mean, it was one of those things that helped me. So, you know Did you go back and, alter through your arrangement with your employer, or are you self employed? At that time, I didn't really because, I just didn't want I don't know. I I just didn't want the house to be a lawyer.
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I totally understand. And sometimes well, sometimes employers don't look. There's more scared of the damn IRS than you are. Okay? It's a paycheck. It's a business for them. Okay? And they're terrified of them. They're not gonna fight your battle for you. So did you go back subsequent years and apply for what they had withheld?
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No. No. No. I didn't. There's a guy called Robert McDonald. Do you ever hear of him?
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Robert McDonald. No.
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He he he's a guy from California, but he he has a he talks he he he was he guy back in the nineteen nineties, he had a couple of videos. Is it Richard Richard McDonald or Robert McDonald? Richard
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Richard McDonald. I'm sorry. Richard McDonald. I knew I knew I knew Richard. He went through the same course I did with my teachers. Yeah. An absolute great guy. 100%. Oh, he's fantastic. I've ever had. Just he's like a little jovial little leprechaun or something. He's just a wonderful guy to be around.
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Oh, an absolute
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gem. An absolute breath of fresh air to the world. Great. Great. Great. Great. 100%. We got somebody else on here that got his we got somebody here that got his law library, Oliver Chris, California. Yeah.
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Wow. Wow. Wow. You know? I I I you know what? I admire I admire people like you and Richard McDonald. You did this stuff without any Internet, you know? And and you had to, like, read an awful lot of stuff, you know? Take quite a lot of this information. Okay. That doesn't really matter much now, but I just to me, it shows because I see the effort you went into, you know?
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It's almost almost ruined my eyes.
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Doing I did. I
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Is that somebody trying to say something?
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Hello? Sorry. Go ahead. Yes.
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Okay. I thought somebody was trying to get in. So, so you filed, from that other guy's stuff. I Well, I I would like to know what's in it at some point. And so maybe I can
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he he this is I'm I'm not being I'm not being, offensive in any way to him if I send you because it's on his website for free, everything, Edward.
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Okay. You know? I can send it. Well, I Do you have a and he don't. Do you have an email?
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Do I? I can send Yes. Yeah. Yeah. I can send you an email. Yes.
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Well, I'll tell you what. I'd rather because of my eyes, I'd rather have you send it to Mark because he can read this a little bit better than I can. But we'll get to that. That's not something that needs to be done today. We don't usually Oliver go out and investigate other people's stuff, Antivan Wrights or David Strait. I know my stuff is accurate. So let me switch from you talking for a second. I'm gonna tell you what you're being presented with. Okay? Okay. What the the results here are the result of over the thesises and the facts are the result of over a hundred years of legal and historical research by three men.
Two of them were my teachers and the other one was me. And, one of my teachers was the law expert who had studied law his entire adult life just because he liked it. And but he didn't study like the current law. He went back to the old law. And what we found out is they've changed a lot of those things. Okay? And so that's why your judges and lawyers are so ignorant when you're using some of these terms. They've just never been exposed to this stuff before because they've been in control of the organization that controls America's colleges and law schools for a hundred years.
And there's no doubt they went in and altered the curriculum at those schools where they don't teach these things anymore. I could give you a specific example or two, but I won't at this point. But I stumbled into them in 1992 because they were totally focused on the tax issue. And that's where John, our the law guy found this revocation of election, regulations. And they're in the code of federal regulations 26. And what it basically says is if you change your status, you can go back for three years and request that three years that you paid out when you were under another status. And they built a company off of that where they would pay people to go through this wonderful thirty hour course, a lot of a lot of heavy law stuff.
And then at the end of the course, we would file three years back. And, the first few people that did it got back pretty good sized checks. And when the IRS figured what was going on, they just shut that gate. By the time I got in there, I was still at the front end of the six months they taught. And, by the time I got in there, I got a $3,500 frivolous filing penalties, which turned into $35,000 they stole when I sold my house, by the way. But anyway, so that's where we come from. And there's a little bit of of of difference here when you say from these other people revocation of election. I think people are thinking that's when you've notified the IRS that you file this paperwork.
Well, that's the status change to me. Okay? And you're just putting them on notice. And it's in those regulations, and I can't tell you which ones, where you could go back and file. Now we had us a guy that we were talking about it on the show here one day, and he goes and does it on his own, never even asked a question or anything. And he got back a real sizable amount of money. I mean, a lot for three years taxes. Okay? He was doing pretty well. And, and then he had to come back and give that back to him because of the situation he was in, and without getting into a long involved story. But that was when we started talking about it on the air.
Now Mark and Mark and I are working on this with folks, and and we had some success, but not the overall success that we were hoping for. And so we really don't delve into that anymore. It's just Mark's helping his parents. They're elderly. He doesn't have the time. I'm not gonna do it. So, and we weren't having that much success. So we've just kinda parked that up on the lesson learned shelf and go on about trying to show people how to get free of this thing. Okay? But I got you there. We've got I can totally back up everything I'm telling you. K? For example Yes. David Strait and these people taught you that we're under admiralty law, maritime law. Right?
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Yeah.
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Yeah. That's wrong. That's wrong. Admiralty law is a martial law of the sea. And that's the there's only you see, law is rights, duties, and remedies. Those three things. We were talking about this the other day. This is very important. Rights plus duties equal remedies. That's the formula that runs the world. R plus d equals r. Rights plus duties, because they're correlative, equal remedies. Well, that little remedy over on the right side is equal to both rights and duties on the left side of the equation sign. So what goes on here is the only remedy in admiralty law is prize, p r I z e.
I'm gonna have my flag. I'm gonna get next to you. I'm gonna pull it down and throw throw the Jolly Roger up, and I'm gonna get on your ship and kill as many of you and steal as much as I can get, and I'm gonna go away. And everything that I got is called prize. Well, see, they don't use prize. There's no procedure for prize except changing of the flags as you're conquering somebody. They don't what what do they use here? We use these things called lean, levy, garnishment, and seizure. You've heard of those. Right? Well, those those are in a category of remedies called self help remedies.
We and there's process that leads up to it, but it's an easy way of achieving remedy without having to go through a formal court process. Get on the document, wait eight months, get in front of a jury, do the trial, get a decision, take the jury, and go go register it and try and collect your your your car. Well, that's a long involved process. You could be out of the country and no telling where. So these are all from the Babylonian merchant code. We called it for thousands of years, the law merchant, and then we call it in The US, the uniform commercial code.
That's what we're under. Not admiralty, not maritime. See, these people don't understand the background of all this. They heard somebody say this along the line, and they just parrot it. Yeah. Because you don't know any different, you believe it. Well, it's not true.
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Yeah. It's just regurgitate nonsense, really. Right?
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So we will we will attempt to go in and get all that stuff out of your mind and replace it with real accurate information that you can absolutely depend on. Okay? Oliver, that'll be one of our promises to you. And, so that's just an example. And it's not, you know, it's, what what did Mark Twain say? It ain't what it's it ain't what I know that's killing me. It's what I know that ain't so. That's what we're talking about right here. K?
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Yeah. So,
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so anyway, it's it's not gonna happen.
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Go go ahead. His real name?
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Samuel Clemens.
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That's right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's funny. Yeah. That's right. Yeah. He lived up there a little bit north of you.
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So, anyway, that's what we're gonna do over a period of time. It's not gonna happen overnight, but you got all of the information that you need on the website. And if there's any questions or anything else is not covered there, you can't find it, we're here six days a week for a couple hours. K?
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Oh, that's great. That's great. That's great. And what? Well, yeah. Yeah. No. No. No. I I am I have been looking at your the website, and I've been looking as I said, I looked at, Against the Enemy, Trading with the Enemy. I watched that one that was on the website. Excellent. Excellent,
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work from doctor Schroeder.
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I can't believe the guy doing the video. He never flinched once in the video. He was so adamant and so he was so it's such conviction during that video. I mean, it it says, this
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yeah. And he's still with us, Oliver. He's still alive. Is he? Get get out of here. Are you serious? Yeah. No way. That's amazing. Yeah. We had a conversation with him about a year ago. I'd love to get him on the on the show here, but he's a veterinarian. I guess he's still working, has his own farm. Our buddy Joe knows him personally. That's how we got in touch with him. And, yeah, that was, a that was a hell of a project. It was the I remember it thirty years ago, and then it's just gotten, you know, thrown along the side of the road. We're taught it came up one day on the show, and we went in, got it. Paul, our buddy Paul here, our excellent technical guy went in and redid the audio track so it's more easily understood.
And, he lays a very important foundation for us because everything that our information's built on is built on that bankruptcy. Because that's when they changed the the forms of government. 03/09/1933, when Roosevelt took the gold and he replaced it when the banks reopened with paper. That's when they changed the the the system. Unbeknownst to you, when they reopened the banks with the new paper money, you didn't realize you were the collateral for it back then. So yep. And then, the and the other one I'd like for you to listen to particularly is that one that's on the same page there with doctor Schroeder, and it's called Dodge Truck Card.
And and I show you how they do it and enslave you in your mind and how to undo it. Very easy.
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What they're doing God's God's char God's char it's called, is it? Maybe I see it. It's called God's trump
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God's Trump card. Okay? So what they're doing I watch all of what they're doing. Oh, that would make Go. Okay. I'm sorry. I'm stepping on you. We got a little delay here in the audio. But what they're doing here, Oliver, and the rest of the folks pretty well understand this, is they go in with keywords, citizen of The United States, resident, money. There's a bunch of them. And they with Pavlovian conditioning, they replace the definition in your subconscious with a 180 degree opposite definition. So your subconscious controls 90% of your day, and 10% of your mind is your consciousness.
So when one of these words come up, your subconscious controls, and it's automatically giving you a false definition. And so when they ask you these questions, you say yes because you don't understand what they're asking or what they've done. So all you have to do now this is the remedy. All you have to do is identify these words, go back in and consciously replace the opposite definition with the real definition. Then your your your subconscious and your conscious are working together. That is empowering in itself. And every time you do that, you get a little slice of reality back. And pretty soon, you live in reality and not in this opposite world.
The first time that you were ever exposed to this, Oliver, was when you were read Alice in Wonderland. The whole thing's based it's based on Alice in Wonderland. If you go b s. If you go back and look at and read Alice, there's some extremely important dialogue in there, which no young person would ever understand, but it's being supplanted planted in your subconscious mind at that age. So here at the first of Alice in Wonderland, Alice is down on the, sloping hill, and she's being on a blanket. And her teacher's there, and they're having a school lesson. And Alice, like many schoolgirls, is daydreaming.
And at the top of the hill is a big tree with a branch, big branch that runs parallel to the ground. And so she daydreams herself up on that limb with her cat. Okay? And the dialogue is this. She says, if I had a world of my own, everything would be what it is because everything would be what it isn't. And then what it is, it wouldn't be. You see, Oliver?
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Yeah.
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So let's let's let's slow down. Let me slow down and go over that. If I had a world of my own, everything would be what it is because everything would be what it isn't, opposites. And then what it is, the opposite, it wouldn't be. You see, here's your opposites. Now, here's another one. A little later in Alice, she's having a conversation with Humpty Dumpty. And the I'll be a little bit liberal here. I'm gonna introduce a word into this. When I use a word, Humpty Dumpty said in a rather scornful tone. When I use the word resident, Humpty Dumpty said in a rather scornful tone, it means exactly what I say it means, no more, no less.
But the question is, said Alice, how can you make a word resident mean so many different things? The question is, said Humpty Dumpty, who's to be master? That's all. And that's what they're doing. That's what the Pharisees were doing against Jesus. They kept changing the rules. They kept changing the definitions. They're still doing it today. That's who we're fighting is the Pharisees from Jesus' time with a whole lot more skill at what they're doing and a lot of technology on their side they didn't have back then, but that's our enemy. So here's another thing.
Yes?
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No. No. Go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead.
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Okay. Now go in. If you want a further proof, go into search engine and put in Lady Rothschild's costume ball. Back in the seventies and the eighties, the the Rothschilds had a big costume ball and they show them in some of their costumes and the body of man that they were eating as cake and all kinds of this trash from them. But in one of the stories about it, Oliver, it says in the first paragraph, it says, Lady Rothschild was so clever. She had the invitations written backwards, so you'd have to read them by looking at them in a mirror. Opposites.
What was the original name of Alice in Wonderland? You remember? Through the looking glass. If you went through a mirror to the other side, you'd be in a world of opposites, wouldn't you?
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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
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Here's what their whole plan is built on this right here. It's the foundation of everything they do. Now here's the advantage that we have by knowing this. Is anytime we have a question about something, the first place you look is a 180 degrees in the opposite direction. And virtually every time you'll find the answer you're looking for. Every time. So all you're doing is just turning your world from upside down to right side up. And when you do that or in the process of it, it doesn't happen immediately. It's it's gonna take a little time with you. We gotta get some of this old stuff that doesn't apply that that these people have taught you, and we're gonna try and correct that for you. But we're gonna as our object of your initiative is we're gonna try and turn your world right side up, and you can forever live free and in reality. Does that sound good?
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Yeah. Yeah. No. It sounds good. It's it's it's it's a hell of an interesting topic. I mean, it's the ultimate topic that we all should know. You know? Yes. Well, one of our students, that same guy that sent those
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three years in, came on the show. I don't remember if we were having a private conversation or he's on the show, but he he says, Roger, your your message is the most important message in the world. And it is because what you don't understand yet, Oliver, is that they control us. They've made us slaves here. And in doing so, they can then have the original credit spout of the entire financial system. That's how important this is. It does two things for them. It gives them the original credit spout for the financial system. What do I mean by that? That we're we're we're in a system. We're born into it as serfs.
They generate a birth certificate, which has a dual use as a warehouse receipt, another commercial document. More back to the UCC. A warehouse receipt is a commercial document where the paper takes on the quality of the good, and the good takes on a shadowy existence. I e, you're down in New Orleans on the docks. You're not gonna schlep a 150 pound bale of cotton around the docks. Hey. You wanna buy a bale of cotton. You're gonna put it in a warehouse. They're gonna generate a piece of paper called the warehouse receipt, which now actually becomes the bale of cotton.
The bale of cotton sits in the warehouse. Oliver takes the piece of paper and walks around the wharf going, anybody wanna buy a bale of cotton? They buy it. You give them the warehouse receipt. They go back and collect in exchange for the cotton. That's what they're doing as a secondary use, we're pretty sure, of the birth certificate. They take that birth certificate then, and and we've got proof of this from the hospital, okay, that they take that then because it's got value, because they assign your life and whatever you can produce throughout your life through your labor of value. They take that birth certificate, and they go over to the bond market, which is 10 times larger than the stock market, and they attach it as collateral for the bond issues.
Now are isn't bond the root word of bondage? Yes. It is. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So that then your income tax goes to pay the coupons on the interest on the bonds. That's the system. That's why this tax thing is their weak link. We pull ourselves out of it. They can't do anything about it because we got their asses on the skewer, and we relieve ourselves from being attached to the fraudulent debt. That sound
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good? No. It does. It does. It it it it kinda ties you with that story you had yesterday. Well, not really, but about the Indian guy who wanted to vote, and he was a sovereign and he shouldn't vote. Right? Yeah. Elk. Elk v Welcomes. He was out of the system. He he was out of the system already.
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You know? He wasn't he was never yeah. He was never in the system. And besides, he wasn't a a black Negro who came off the plantation. Although, as you really get into this in-depth, everybody when you go back and read these court cases, even the ones who are immediately after the fourteenth amendment, etcetera, everyone refers to the fourteenth amendment as exclusively to blacks. It could not have been. And the reason for that is because it was a federal citizenship. There never been one before. In fact, the federal people that were born and raised in the District in Columbia and the territories, because there was no government over them officially, they were stateless.
Now you can't tell me that everybody that was born and raised in DC in the territories was a former black Negro slave. I'm not buying it. Okay? So there had to be some other different ethnicities and colors that were also affected by this and were probably considered black in the Jim Crow laws. But it couldn't have been exclusively blacks. And I've never heard anybody say that any of these court cases pontificate on it because the vast majority of the people that were affected by it were former black Negro slaves. Yeah. The Elk v Wilkins is an excellent case. There's two other ones that you will become familiar with. One in the 18 called Plessy, p l e s s y v Ferguson, an extremely important case you've never heard any other patriot researcher even mentioned because they don't understand what we understand.
And then another one about two years later in 1896 styled US versus Wong Kim Ark, a r k. Super important case. Has a lot of bearing on this. And it's in the dissent on that case in eighteen ninety six or eight where the head of the Supreme Court, Philip Fuller, and one of the great justices of our country, John Harlan, they dissented on that. And in that descent, they found the nugget. And the nugget is that nobody else understands is they've converted us into the feudal system. See, that's what David Strait and all these other people, they don't understand that. And when you understand that one fact, this is what my teacher understood so well.
When you understand the fact that it's the feudal system, it's called the English variety of slavery. Excuse me. The English variety of slavery. Because as Brent was saying yesterday, we talked about the Somerset case. The the fact that England's got what's called a free soil doctrine. Are you familiar with that?
[01:08:59] Unknown:
No. I wasn't I wasn't actually, familiar with oh, well, actually, you know, it's funny. Well, I give you just a little bit of information that that, when when when the queen visited Ireland, she didn't she she didn't step foot on on our side. She she she had a carpal underneath wherever she walked. You know? Yeah. Well So I don't know what I'd like to do with anything.
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Well, anyway, the English England has a tradition they call the free soil doctrine. In this case that illustrated, it was that case that,
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Brent That's an interesting one. I must look at that.
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It's called the Somerset case. Okay. Well, here's what happened. There was a guy from Virginia that had a slave, and he went to England with his slave. And the minute he hit England, his slave got rabid and even ran. And when they finally caught him, he said England's got a free soil doctrine, and I can't be a slave. I'm free. It went to court. That's called the Somerset doctrine. Okay? So there's never been a a slave born on English territory, supposedly. I think we blow that out of the water with this feudal thing. But the feudal system here's what happened. In October, you had Norman, William the Bastard, the Duke of Normandy, at the behest of the Jews in the Catholic church. He was related to Harold.
Harold had they were cousins. Okay? And so he had a legitimate right to the throne, and he went down there to the battle of, on the South Side. I can't remember what. Hastings. And you know that story?
[01:10:37] Unknown:
Well, some of the No. I I Well, I know this is me. But but but but but it's been a while since I looked into the Hastings area. You remember you remember about him they getting hit with an arrow? Did they teach you that? Hit with an arrow. Who who who got hit with an arrow? Alright. We get Norman,
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Duke of Normandy, the bastard, and his crew, and they're over there at Hastings, and they're fighting Harold and his bunch. And Harold and his bunch were actually kinda winning from what I can take. Yeah. Yeah. And William the the bastard, William the Conqueror, one of his arrow his his archers had one arrow left, and he shot it arbitrarily into the sky, and it came down in Harold's eye, dropped him on the spot. All of his troops freaked out and retreated and the world changed on one arrow Because nor but Duke of Normandy, he came in, took over Normandy, infused the feudal system from from Europe, where it had been very established. But see, in Europe, they had two types of serfs, an involuntary serf, much the kin to black slavery in our country, and voluntary serfs.
Involuntary serfs can come in and leave and whatever, whenever they want. It's a contract. Okay? And but when William the Conqueror came and conquered England, because of the free soil doctrine, they didn't bring in voluntary servitude with them. They only brought voluntary servitude, and that's called the English version of slavery, voluntary servitude. That's what we're in. It's the only type of slavery that's lawful by the constitution in two places. Doesn't come out and say it, but if you understand what's going on, it says for one thing, they can impair your ability to contract. Well, you selling yourself to somebody is a contract.
So they can't they can't in other words, they can't come take your rights away, but they can put you in a position where you can give them away. And that's what's happened. The other is the thirteenth amendment, which was written for the states to get rid of slavery. And it says neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, but it leaves out voluntary servitude. So there's two places in the constitution where voluntary servitude is lawful and legal, and it's got to be because in our world, everything for everybody has got to be voluntary.
That's why they've gone to all these lengths to turn everything around 180 degrees so they can ask you, Oliver, are you a citizen of The United States? Are you a resident? You don't understand what they're asking you, so you erroneously answer yes because you've been frauded, and then you sign something to verify it. So now they've not only got your voluntary nature, but they've got your consent to govern you in that capacity. It's all voluntary. We know the trick now. Take it away. Take away your consent. They can't stop it. So so the facts don't matter after that once you establish when you when you when that's established, that's it. It's kinda game over. Well, that is that is the fact. You've pulled yourself out from under the fourteenth amendment and civil rights given to you by man, and they've moved you moved yourself over to the original constitution and status, which was a state citizen, now called a national.
And you're under god given rights, capital r rights, capital r duties, and you're a state citizen called the national. And The silver stop the yeah. Go ahead. They they can't do a thing about it. We have taken the biggest, baddest sons of Satan that have ever walked the earth with more money and more influence than anybody ever before. And we put them in a corner, and we confronted them with this, and they stand mute, which means they consent.
[01:15:12] Unknown:
Yeah. They consent. Yeah. Yeah. Sure. Sure. Yeah.
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Yeah. So that's what we do. And that's why just a little spattering of some of the background on on the verifies all this. But I will tell you, you've stumbled into the mother lode, buddy. You hit the mother lode.
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And see, here's what they do.
[01:15:35] Unknown:
No. No. No. No. No. You you are the show, buddy. You are the show. Uh-huh. So they get us in this ownership condition. Now this goes back to things like the meaning of the word property. So when we say property, if I said, Oliver, you own your car. Right? You go, yes. Mine I've just paid it off. It's a great car. And I would say, is that your property? And you'd say, yes. And we'd all understand that conversation. Right? But that's not the legal conversation. That's not the definition of property once you step into court, or once you get confronted in a legal situation.
The property is a right, and the thing, car, is now called a thing. So the car is not your property. Your property is a right ownership in into the thing. So they've got a property right in us. Okay? That allows them to do that little birth certificate trick, attach it as collateral, and it also allows them because they've got an ownership right in you to build up administrative state and administrative agencies and control you through unelected bureaucrats that only interpret legislation. Now when you go through this, you relieve yourself of both of those. We pull you out of the IRS unless you just wanna pay taxes. If you wanna pay the thieves, go ahead. I might check you for fever. But, anyway, the other one is it because it's a property ownership, they can have all these agencies, over 300 of them up there that promulgate regulations, interpret legislation, and apply it and enforce it on you.
I want you to go through that with the exception of two very obscure sections of the Internal Revenue Code, which probably will never apply to most of us by far. With the exception of those two, there are no administrative agency in the federal government that has any authority over you anymore. Does that sound pretty good?
[01:17:49] Unknown:
Sounds amazing. I tried it a couple years ago. It didn't work. But I I mean, I'll I I'm willing to try it again again and again. Keep trying. Well,
[01:17:58] Unknown:
I'll tell you. Let me give you an example. Maybe somebody can point you to where it is. We've got a a a one of our gals. We got some real ferocious lionesses on here. K? I mean, the men mostly don't have any balls anymore, and the women are having to step up and do this. And we got some real good ones. K? And this was named Sarah. She had a rebellious daughter, and her whole story is about eighteen minutes. Somebody ferret it out for you or put it in the chat or something. She got her rebellious daughter released from CPS with a hospital administrator and three attorneys by simply putting the affidavit down and explaining it to them.
They said leave the room for five minutes. They came out and said you and your daughter are free to leave. So it might not have worked in your case because you came from dubious background of people that, in all honesty, Oliver, they just didn't understand what they were teaching you. K? Now we'll straighten that out. And part of this is to get you re empowered, and we're gonna get you re empowered with this knowledge and and understanding. And you're gonna be able to defend this position if it's ever challenged and show whoever is challenging it that they don't know what they're talking about and that you're a free man.
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How about that? That sounds amazing to me. I mean, I I do Well, let me do get
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you go ahead. Sorry. No. I was just gonna say I was gonna open up the phone. Julie, why don't you come on and tell Oliver a little bit about what your experience is in the last year? You still with us, Julie? They're by leaving and we got into this there there she is. Yeah. Here's Julie. She's just down the road from you outside of DC. Why don't you give Oliver a little background here, Julie? Where where are you, Oliver?
[01:19:54] Unknown:
Oh, I I'm well well, I'm just I I'm actually on the coast of New York City. I'm actually south of I I I mean, if I get the bus, it's only ten, fifteen minutes away from Times Square. So I'm virtually staying there. I'm in the metropolitan area, but I I love Philadelphia. Philadelphia is a great city. I go down there a lot, and I go down that way a lot. But but you you said you're in DC or somewhere. I know. Go ahead. That's what happened. Go ahead. Yeah. I know. I'm I'm swampland DC. Do I say salam alaikum? Oh, yeah. I don't know DC too well. It is beautiful. I've driven to it a few times. Beautiful city. I never been to the ghetto areas. They say that's not so pretty, but Yeah. Surrounding areas is beautiful.
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Julie Julie don't live in the ghetto. Her neighbor is a b Conan Bryant from the Supreme Court.
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Well well, obviously, Virginia as well is beautiful. Crystal City, and I I've driven all those areas, beautiful. Virginia is beautiful, and and it's one of the strongest accent I've ever heard in the South, and it's not that South.
[01:20:55] Unknown:
You know? Yeah. Well, you you came to the right place. I'm going on, one year from when I found Roger online. And so you're in the right community with like minded people,
[01:21:22] Unknown:
Robert McDonald.
[01:21:23] Unknown:
Oh, Robert McDonald. Yeah. Is he Yeah. You said he had a website. What's his website? I'm just curious.
[01:21:30] Unknown:
Well, I I I think he has a website. You know what? I I I I had it recently, but but but there's a guy that has a has a website in in his honor and post videos of old videos of Robert. But a lot of the stuff is on YouTube anyway. I mean Right. I've got a I I have a I have a couple of his books. He's got one called a state citizen manual or something. Yeah. I have his book. It's it's it's pretty amazing. He's a great guy. His videos are amazing. Very I I I That's true.
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He was If
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you go to me. Did you tell him about the matrix docs, Roger? The matrixdocs.com
[01:22:08] Unknown:
website has everything on it. Yes. I have. Yeah. I I Richard told me about that the other day, and I watched the video of it. Alright. The dealing with the enemy act or trading with the enemy act. Yes. I just watched that. I'm gonna watch more. Robert just recommended another video to watch, and I'll probably watch
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that maybe tomorrow. And at the bottom and at the bottom of the site, there's all these handbooks. And then if you go to, the actual docs.matrix.com, Paul has all of these amazing documents that you can search for and all these folders for anything you need.
[01:22:45] Unknown:
Oh, that's great. Good stuff. Good stuff.
[01:22:49] Unknown:
Julie, Richard Richard McDonald was in the classes that I went through when I go out to Vegas, and he and John knew each other. And this guy was one of the most jovial, fun to be around people that you've ever met in your whole life. He's just a joy. Okay? Yeah. He's not that he's not alive anymore? Pardon me? He's not alive anymore? No. He's he's dead, unfortunately. He's passed. I went and visited him in California. Yeah. I I visited him in California one time. And, you know, out there where they got valley, well, valley, and then you go over a hill and there's another valley of whatever. Well, he lived in that word that wooded area between the valleys. And he had a house and he wanted to build the law library.
And there was a really big, I don't know, hardwood tree of some sort right beside the house. So he built himself a circular law library around the tree. Really? Yeah. Yes. He did. It's true. That's a good idea. Heck of a guy. Circular law. Anyways Circular law. Like a there you go. You're Yeah. Hold on. Let's get Julie fixed up, and we'll open it up for everybody here. Julie, do you have anything else you wanna tell Oliver? Well, you're chipped. You're clipping. Okay. In that case, I will go on because we can't hear you. Gary, was that you wanting to say something?
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Yes. Richard McDonald's
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Montgomery website
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is educatedinlaw.org.
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Educatedinlaw.org?
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That's cool, I guess.
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Okay. You're clipping too, but you're up on the side of a mountain in Northwest Montana. Who else was trying to say something there who'd like to talk to Oliver? Nobody wants to talk to Oliver? Oliver, I don't know what to say. I'm kinda shocked. Anyway, you found the right place, and we'll grab your hand and, add you to the family. We're a family here. And, and and if you would care to be involved in our family, we'd love to have you. Okay? Yep.
[01:25:16] Unknown:
No. No. Definitely. Yeah. Yes to that. Yeah. Yeah. For sure. It's very interesting.
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So the big piece that everybody's missing is the feudal system. Because when you know it's the feudal system, you know that it's voluntary, and all you have to do is volunteer out. That's why they hide it so deeply. Now let me show you where they're hiding it. They hide it in the first third word of the fourteenth amendment, all persons born. And what they're doing, there's two ways to transfer hereditament to children. One is through parental blood It's called just San Gineas. And the other is called just Tiara. There's another name for it. And that means by the land. By the land. And so the feudal system is when that happened.
And so all you have to know is they're assigning you a status based on where you're born, not who your parents were. That's where all this is coming from. So once they get that under the camel's nose under the tent, well, they just run the whole rest of the feudal system in behind it. So that's the really most important thing to understand.
[01:26:42] Unknown:
Wow. Wow. That's that's huge.
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Yeah. It was it it it's world world changing. And see, it's through this mechanism where this is why they did it. So they can get a property right on us. And now we've got the world reserve currency, don't we? The dollar. Oh. Through us, they control the rest of the world with the dollar as the world reserve currency. So we literally in this condition are the linchpin for the whole scheme. That's why they're so scared of this. They can't do anything about it. It totally exposes them. It totally frees us, and it shows the world who they are if they care to look into it.
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Our
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Mark, let me let you in. I've been talking for a while.
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What was this educated in law website? I mean, I went to it, and it looks like you mentioned I didn't hear it alone. It's sir it's a guy named Richard McDonald. McDonald He's very good. Was
[01:27:50] Unknown:
he he he was a guy he's dead now. Unfortunately, he was one of the students when that I I met him when I went through John and Glenn's classes in Vegas. And, a lot of people knew he would. He had quite a reputation. He's just a great guy. And I guess that's his website. But he was totally focused on California state citizen. Muted.
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If I could interrupt for a moment. There is, I don't know if he's new or not, but there's there's a participant here Unmuted. Stand up, and he's that's who's causing the echo.
[01:28:26] Unknown:
Okay. Well, that's a couple times, and he keeps on muting. So I'm gonna say he he wants to chime in a lot. Okay. Well, who is that? Does he have a label up there or a phone number or something we can address?
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Lee.
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L l e e? Hey, Lee. Yes, sir. Hey, Lee. Now put your star six. Well, Lee, we're we're hailing everybody. Lee? Okay. Well, he must not wanna talk, so mute him back out. And if you wanna unmute and come forward, Lee, we wanna talk to you if you got a question or a comment. Otherwise, I'm a defer back to Mark here. Markster. Mark? Anybody there?
[01:29:23] Unknown:
Sorry about that. I I'm muted for a second. Yeah. I was just going over that educatedinlaw.org website, and it is just chock full of patriot mythology. Gold, French flag, buildings or ships. Yeah. I would not I would not recommend anybody go to that website.
[01:29:45] Unknown:
Well, I I Rhea's name just came up and and Oliver used it. Yes. Richard was back in the day, thirty years ago, when that was the information that was out there.
[01:29:56] Unknown:
Yeah. Well, what I'd like to reiterate, and I do this from time to time, and I think it's important for everybody to understand. One of the first, of Rogers students that I met here in Oklahoma City sat down first first time we talked for three hours, and I left with a headache. And I had to sit there and rebut all the David Strait stuff that they had learned. And and lots of people and I and I get it, you know, they're they're on the path for for searching for truth, but they get so indoctrinated with everybody else's materials that they they cling to it because they don't know any better.
And, you know, I left that whole patriot movement. I was just out. And it wasn't until, really divine intervention, I found found, Roger on RBN, Republic Broadcasting Network, in a time slot that I used to cohost with Ralph Winter Road from time to time. I cohosted with him for almost a year, and I stepped out of that. And, another listener, Chuck Ward, had been trying to tell me about Roger. And I was just like, yeah. Yeah. Another Patriot. Another Patriot. You know? For years.
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For years. About
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about about a year or two. Yeah. Yeah. About two years. And, you know, Chuck, he was like, Roger says it's not difficult. It should be easy. I'm like, Yeah. Another Patriot. Another Patriot. Yeah. Right. And so one evening, sitting at home Sunday evening, 5PM Central Time, And the little boy says, I wonder who took, Ralph's plays. Who took Ralph Winroad's radio show and RBN? And so I tuned in and here's Roger. And I'm like, I think this guy's on to something. And he has a daily show. I started listening to that. In about two weeks, the light bulb went on. Then we find out this is the guy that Chuck had been trying to tell me about.
And everything just clicked and and Roger has the receipts to everything that he that he teaches. You know, it's all backed up by law and which is a first. You know, it's a first for me. And so that's kind of how I found Roger. And then here, I don't know, a few months ago, maybe a year ago, you know, people like, are you familiar with this person's information, this person's information, and this person? They're all trying to compare Roger to these other people when these other people don't even have a clue what Roger's talking about and they have creatively looked at every which way they can to primarily get out of the IRS, get out of the tax system.
And Rogers laid it out very simply, but they keep hanging on to the gold French flag, the whole Admiralty Law thing. And I I'm telling you, if you could just let go of that and see, people have invested tons of time, energy, and money into these other patriot programs, and and they they just refuse to give it up. You don't have to have any of that stuff. You don't have to worry about, well, whether your name's in all capital letters or not. That's why I go by Mark all caps because I make fun of the whole notion that if my name's in all capital letters, some government has automatic jurisdiction over me. It's just not true.
So and most people don't even understand jurisdiction and what gives somebody jurisdiction over you. You know? So, anyway, I would I would really, you know, like to tell everybody, you know, like, we're we're talking about this Richard McDonald guy. Well, yeah, but it's it's all old information that doesn't hold water. It's all old information, you know. Even my mentor, Dan Meader, years ago who Roger's path crossed with him, and I think that was before Roger knew about the the passport and the affidavit. My mentor, Dan Meador, even wrote some, what I call them, memorandums of law and he mentioned the national.
Now this is in 2000, well prior to 2003, shortly there about 2000 and 2003, Dan had written about the national status but we had no clue how to officially declare that status or register that status with anybody. And so this is where Roger's information comes in. It all does so beautifully with the law.
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Let me tell you how they did that, Oliver. I figured it out finally. They take the concept of national state citizen, and they continually relabel it. I can take you over to title 42, United States code. That's civil rights code under fourteenth amendment and show you where it says the citizens of The United States are equal to all the privileges and immunities of the white citizens. Right there in The United States code, it says that. K?
[01:35:29] Unknown:
That's us. White citizens Where where is that where is that again? It says It's title four title title 42.
[01:35:37] Unknown:
Title 42. Section nineteen eighty three, I believe. It says it twice. They got two sections there, 86 maybe. But I believe it's nineteen eighty three, right in that area, and they say exactly what I just quoted to you. Now I can take you over to the internal revenue code in the regulations and show you where it's the same exact status, the white citizen over here, but now they call it a nonresident alien. Now everybody would know that a non resident alien is a white citizen, wouldn't you? K? So that's the whole that's where the whole IRS thing turns on is that one clause. It's 26 CFR 1.1 dash one parenthesis small a. And they hid National by calling it a nonresident alien.
Well, if you go back to the fourteenth amendment, if all persons born or naturalized in The United States, comma, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, comma, are citizens of The United States and the state wherein they reside or resident. So it's nonresident to the residency of the fourteenth amendment and alien from federal citizenship. That's how they're using it there. Well, I can take you over to another place. They call it a national. I can take you over and say where they call it a territorial citizen. I can show you all kinds of stuff, but that's the trick they use and why our community has never been able to nail this down. They're going off labels instead of understanding the underlying concepts.
That's why I teach concepts.
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Is this a question. Quick question. Is a state citizen and a national the same thing to you? Yes. Exactly.
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All they did was change the label. Now I'll show you where you can find that. The first time they put it in law was in a statutes at large called the Nationality Act of 1940. Right at the start of World War two, it's a long act, but right at the top, it says it says nationality act of 1940 right there in the big bold. And then there's about eight definitions underneath that. And the very first one, a, says a national has total allegiance to a small less state. So what's the big deal about that? Well, if you don't know it's the feudal system, you wouldn't know how jurisdiction originates.
Because jurisdiction comes from the feudal system. It's the relationship between a liege lord and a liege man. You know those movies where the the guy takes his fist and he taps on his armor on his chest and goes, yes, my liege. Yes, my liege. You've seen that? That's futile stuff. Okay? And leash, leash is the root word of allegiance. And the relationship that comes from feudalism that establishes jurisdiction is a reciprocal agreement. Whenever one word is, is in place, the other word automatically is in action. And that formula is allegiance for protection, protection for allegiance.
So that one sentence tells it all, but if you don't know all this other stuff, you don't understand it. Okay. National owes total allegiance. Well, now allegiance is there, so protection's automatically in there. To who? To a small s state. That's state citizen. So what's really happening is you're switching your allegiance and protection formula from the one you've been under with the federal government. See, they were giving you protection and you owe them allegiance. That's right after the civil war.
[01:39:37] Unknown:
All that stuff. Yeah. Right. So now
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now you're changing it from the federal government with your affidavit to the state. I'm a national, which means according to this very important little section of definition is you owe the state all your total allegiance. Well, because of the formula, that means the state owes you total protection. Oh, not the state agencies in bankruptcy where they've taken over the whole country, but the state now owes you protection. Supposedly, they should be protecting you from things like traffic tickets or any state agencies trying to ding you because you're not a resident anymore, all that stuff. But we haven't gotten that far in educating them yet. But that's what really is going on here.
But that one sentence, and it's repeated two or three times, I could tell you where, but that is a national host total allegiance to the smallest state. If you understand what I just explained to you, well, you know it's a state citizen. It couldn't be anything else.
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Yeah. Yeah.
[01:40:49] Unknown:
Oliver, have you seen the citizenship handbook that Devin wrote? No. If you if you'll go to nationalstatus.com nationalstatus.com, And in their search box, type in handbook. It'll take you right to Devin's, national citizenships handbook. And that's nationalstatus.com,
[01:41:16] Unknown:
man. I'm just writing it down right here. Nationalstatus..com. And and and what did you say the next name was? Okay.
[01:41:22] Unknown:
If if you go to the search box on that website, nationalstatus.com, go to the search box, and just type in handbooks. Type in handbook. Okay. All one word, handbook. And on the next page, results page, you should have a you should see a link to, and I'm just confirming this, so bear with me just a moment. I'll I'm I'm right there on their site now. And on the next page, oh my gosh. They got all kinds of handbooks now.
[01:42:00] Unknown:
Or you can just go to the matrix docs and go down to the download section, the citizenship handbook for nationals is where I came. To be that was the quickest way was the national status website. It was the quickest, easiest way to find that book. But,
[01:42:15] Unknown:
anyway, I I, I guess I digress because I don't see it anymore. Well, Devin's one of our students, Oliver.
[01:42:25] Unknown:
It's a computer guy that puts his handbook together, 71 pages. You can use it yourself. You could print it and hand it out to others. It's very detailed on this whole scheme. Was that somebody trying to say something there?
[01:42:39] Unknown:
It's that that book, the National Citizenship Handbook, is very step by step, starts you out on a little small baby step and starts working its way up until till when you get to the end. Somewhere in there, you're gonna have your moment, And it's it's all just it's such a good book. And I I use it for referencing all the time. Like, you know, if I'm like, okay. What was that case or what was this? I pull it up. I do a word search and boom. There it is. Okay. Yep. That's it. But it's it's it's such a fantastic reference book for the national status, for the national citizen.
[01:43:21] Unknown:
Well well well, listen. I just wanted to say I will look it up, but I know you you you you're totally against, Robert McDonald. I I only read his videos. I only watched his videos and I some of his stuff. I mean, he had stuff on his videos about, about the time that we have right now and and land patents.
[01:43:38] Unknown:
He'd a lot of interest in stuff. Honestly, he's not a bad guy. He's not a bad guy. No. No. No. He's not a bad guy at all. He was just running on the best we knew at the time. Okay? Yeah. So and we understand that. Okay? Now the, the other thing where I get cross with people is when, like, with David Strait, when he charged you $400 for that 31 page document that's got things like sovereign citizen in it. And we even had here, I'll give you an example straight from the passport office. Our people are always very antsy that they've got their status changed officially. They don't believe in the federal government, and everybody understands why.
So Danny, the New Yorker, or yeah. He moved down to Orlando, and he got real antsy. So he called the passport office, and and he left a message, and a real nice guy called him back. And he said, I just want to make sure I'm listed as a national. And so the guy at the passport office brings up his profile, and he goes, oh, yeah. Yeah. We got you here as a national. Remember, what's in possession of the paperwork of the secretary? So that's Yeah. That's you're golden right there. Okay. And then the guy goes he brings up his affidavit, our sample affidavit, and he goes starts reading it. He goes, wow. This is really good.
He said, we don't have any problem filing these one page documents, but it's those 31 page books that get shoved to the back of the desk. It's right out of his mouth. Okay. And and and then he said something very encouraging. He said, you know, we're getting so many of these things that they're having to hold extra classes for the employees on how to process them correctly.
[01:45:29] Unknown:
Okay. So that noise
[01:45:32] Unknown:
That's straight from the passport office, Oliver.
[01:45:36] Unknown:
Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like, another woman as well as Anna Van Reitz, she does a thing as well. Stay away from her.
[01:45:44] Unknown:
Stay away from Anna. Judge Anna is a judge in her own imaginary court, and she's so proficient that the IRS just levied and is seizing and selling $1,200,000 worth their property. So don't don't take any of her stuff on.
[01:46:03] Unknown:
There's another guy called David Robinson. Do you ever hear of him? I have not. This is just what I talked about.
[01:46:10] Unknown:
Everybody wants to see if Roger's material will compare to somebody else's.
[01:46:15] Unknown:
And and they don't know about Roger and it's really the other way around because No. I I I I'm not I'm not comparing it. I I I just mentioned all the names that all the boots. I have boots of David Robinson in the house here and and stuff like that. And I've read some of the stuff. I understand, but I understand.
[01:46:30] Unknown:
But, you're you're spinning your wheels. I promise you. All the other stuff. I know. Yeah. I know. I know. I know. You're right. You're right. You're right. So I have a question. Would I would just encourage you. Try to try to let go of that and focus on learning Rogers materials. Yep. And you will get free. These other people have all these all these crazy ways of you hey, Ollie. You ever seen those circus, circus shows where they had the tigers jumping through hoops of fire to go from one place to the next? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, all these other patriots, and I spell that p a y t r I o t s, pay tickets.
They have you jump through all kinds of hoops of fire, and if you try their method and it doesn't work out, they say, well, you must have done something wrong. Well, guess what? Well, the lender's material works. It's simple. Or I wouldn't be here. If it wasn't backed by law and didn't work simply as he says it does and as I say it does, I wouldn't be here. I just would not be here. And if you start asking wouldn't be here ninety years later, you know? Yeah. And you you start asking these other people, these other patriots, you know, where you you know, if you'll if you'll go back and and keep asking them where do you get the authority to do this, most of them can't answer that question.
For for one simple example, like the the all caps name, everybody cries. All that means you're a corporate entity. And when you press them and say, well, where did you get that? Guess where they got it from? It's that rumor, that that patriot mythology that if your name's in all capital letters, it means a corporation. They got it from a style book. A writing and a a federal style and writing book that says basically that if you see a name all spelled or spelled in all capital letters, it's a corporation. Well, that and that's only an indication. It's only an indication that it might be a corporation.
It doesn't automatically mean it's a corporation. So people really get things conflated and then the next thing you know, they run off telling other people, well did you know the gold French flag is is Admiralty Law? Let me give you another example. I wish I could find this again. But in the the Montana Freeman trial, there's about, I don't know, eight or nine guys that got arrested for the, the Montana Freeman. And when they were objecting and they were challenging jurisdiction in the federal court because they were trying to get them for, I think, like, some type of fraud, some type of financial fraud or something like that.
And so they were, I guess they tried them all together. And so the the Montana Freeman, whoever was ahead of that, they were challenging the Court's jurisdiction and they said, you know, the gold French flag means this is Admiralty Law and Admiralty Court. The judge wearing a black robe means this. And they had about, I don't know, nine or 10 different things that they're saying that this is what gives them jurisdiction over them or or why they don't have jurisdiction. Excuse me. So they're telling the court why they don't have jurisdiction over them as an individual.
And finally, they brought in a special judge and he said, you know, we really don't need to have these flags here. So he had them removed. Oh, you don't like this black robe? I don't like it either because it's hot and itchy. So he takes off his black robe and has it taken back to the office. And so he gives them every little thing they want and guess what? They went ahead and moved and convicted him. Right? So because none of that none of those physical things had anything to do with jurisdiction. The jurisdiction is based on the facts of the case and who's bringing those charges against them and whether they lawfully have a right to have jurisdiction over them or not.
[01:50:58] Unknown:
Yeah. So Guess where their jurisdictional statement is, Oliver, in any filings that they're going to give you and charge you with anything? In the very first paragraph. And it'll say Oliver from a resident of the state of New York. Residency. That's it. That's the most dangerous word in the whole deal because you don't understand how they're using it at all. Yep. And I'll prove it to you. I was gonna use another Samuel Clemens. We're talking about mister mister Twain earlier. This a good one. It really applies all the time. He's great. It's easier to fool a man.
It's easier to fool a man. Yeah. No. I don't think so. I don't know. It's easier to fool a man than to tell him he's been fooled. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's that's it. You noodle on that one for a while. Residency comes from ambassadorial law. If you dig deep enough, you'll find it. But they've hidden it quite well because they've assigned a geographical definition to it. So, it comes from ambassadorial law where we exchange ambassadors. Say, when we sign a treaty and exchange ambassadors with Ireland, your country, the Irish ambassador in DC is in residence.
So what does that mean? So if he comes over and and gets caught smuggling something at the airport, they won't charge him with a crime in The US because he's in residency. And in residency, the laws of Ireland would apply to him. So they'd put him on a plane and send him back to Ireland. So when they're asking you, are you a resident, it does not mean I live over there. It means which laws are you under? Comment, question, comment. Yeah. Tom, sorry, Paul. You've been trying to get in for minutes. Go ahead.
[01:53:00] Unknown:
Okay. My comment is, as a citizen of The United States under the fourteenth amendment to the constitution, it is presumed that you are a resident of Washington, DC, and you are foreign to your local state. Therefore, the state, it treats you as an enemy combatant because you're in, rebellion to your local state. Now my question is, did you watch the Star Wars movies, particularly the one I don't know. I think it might have been Empire Strikes Back when, Luke Skywalker was in the cave with Yoda. Did you watch that? Do you remember that?
[01:53:39] Unknown:
This is years that was well, how many was this the older one, was it?
[01:53:44] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. A long time ago. Long time ago. Like, when I was 10. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
[01:53:49] Unknown:
Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. That's the older one. Right? Yeah. Yeah. Alright. Well, what Yoda what did Yoda tell Luke Skywalker?
[01:53:57] Unknown:
He said, you must unlearn what you have learned. Oh, there you go. So anybody that's thinking that they wanna try and compare any of any of these these other patriot mythology and p a y triads and whatever, trying to compare their stuff with Roger's stuff. Once you get to Roger's stuff, as Yoda said, you must unlearn what you have learned. And some people have trouble with that. Some people will flush it like, yeah, like yesterday's news.
[01:54:31] Unknown:
So Well well,
[01:54:33] Unknown:
I I I I no. No. No. No. I I I actually I have Robert Spook. I read the first, five pages of it, but but I I I read the actual book. I didn't read the introduction yet. I just said I'd read the first five pages of this book, and it it it was great. It's very easy to read, actually. It's very reader friendly. You know?
[01:54:51] Unknown:
Good. A lot of people really praise that book. Now I wrote the manuscript that my teachers edited into the book. The reason the book is so excellent is because of my teacher, Glenn Amborn, who is a who's one of us he won a case at the Supreme Court of the US when he was in jail for another guy. Wow.
[01:55:15] Unknown:
Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow.
[01:55:19] Unknown:
That's impressive. Yep. Is that this whole story is an amazing story, man. And, I can just show you the points along the line where you you you gotta know it's a divine mission because these things are just divinely attached. I was in a bad automobile accident that I caused in Argentina. I killed six people, and I should have been killed in that too, honestly. But I had this message, and I had not gotten it out yet. And and and I was the only one in the world that understood it. Even my teachers didn't understand it when I first told them about it. And so, after that accident, when my eyes opened and I saw the scene, And I the first thought that hit my mind was, I I shouldn't have lived through this.
God has to have more work for me to do, and that's why we're here today. But that's happened a number of times through this whole process to the different people involved. You'll get more of the story as you hang around.
[01:56:20] Unknown:
What did you do you think you could
[01:56:23] Unknown:
Go ahead. Sorry.
[01:56:26] Unknown:
Go ahead. Do you think do you think do you think you need to spend more or spend money on marketing? Or or what what's the issue? This this movement should be the biggest of all the movements out there. Well, it's it's really strange. I agree with you. We don't spend any money on marketing. I'm just kind of consciously because it's been such
[01:56:44] Unknown:
tough sledding. I mean, I've been trying to get this across to people for fifteen years, man. I've seen all of the I've seen, the all the reactions, the gamut. Yeah. And what I've come to, I think, understand is, yes, it needs to be spread over a wide net, but it only reacts to a certain small percentage of people. And you can't go force this on people. They've got to come to it and wanna sit down and understand and learn all this stuff. And if you don't wanna do that, it's not for you because it's not a paper filing game. See? And, boy, Oliver, I wish I knew the answer. Here's what we're trying to do is make this grow like an like a network marketing, on, you know, person to person, basically, people to people that relate to each other and, grow a really firm foundation.
And then at some point, as things continue to get worse and all these people are still looking for answers, and we haven't been able to get to them yet, at some point, we're gonna get this message to, like, an Alex Jones audience. And when we do that, I believe we'll have enough people to really affect change. K? Remember, there's only 3% of our population wanted to fight old King George. The rest of them all wanted to beat Tories. K. Hold on just a second. They want to be what? They all want to be English. They want to be under King George. 3%.
You you probably don't know this, Oliver. 3% of the country wanted the revolution. It's always a small number of dedicated people that as Madison or Adam says, light brush fires in the minds of men. That's what we're doing. Okay? So anyway, we're about to end the show. Oliver, come back and spend as much time with us as you can or want to. We're a pretty good bunch. We we we love having you and your accent and your foreign aspect and showing the world. Even people like you and Alma that could never ever have achieved freedom in your lifetime, through this mechanism, we can reverse engineer it and let you allow to be free, buddy.
Alright. Thank you very much. Alright. Well, hold on. We're gonna cut off here with this. Now I know I know there are couple of gals that have a question, but we're right at the end. Wait just a second. I just wanted I just wanted to welcome,
[01:59:24] Unknown:
Oliver, and he's welcome to reach out at my Telegram, National Status Bureau. Yeah. And Richard has some really good information.
[01:59:33] Unknown:
Yep. Merck has got a Telegram group, Oliver, and with 500 plus people on it you can join. That's national Yep. Status, freedom, three separate words. That's the status. Freedom. Sure. I'll definitely be out there. Yep. Okay. Well, Merk will welcome you. And, we got another resource. We mentioned it. Dave and his wife, Kaye, have put up an exemplary website. She's the web person, and it's got attached to AI, And it'll help you write documents and all kinds of stuff they got on over there. And that's national status. We mentioned it a minute ago, .com or .info.
Either one of those, same thing. So we got Devin's handbook that was mentioned. There's another the a little try folder that you can print with with just bullet point information that Gary and Gina put together. There's a number of resources for you. But let's get you started off on the right path and get the right information and the right foundation. And you you obviously are attracted to the information, and it will fulfill your expectations. I don't know about much in this world that will fulfill expectations, but if you'll follow our directions here, this information will fulfill expectations and self empower you to where you ain't scared of one son of a bitch swinging dick that walks the face of the earth.
I don't care what their I don't care what Jew name they got. Man. Yeah. Now does anybody have something for Oliver?
[02:01:15] Unknown:
Just welcome to the Hello, Oliver.
[02:01:17] Unknown:
Yeah. Welcome aboard, Ar.
[02:01:20] Unknown:
Yeah. That's Mark. That's Mark.
[02:01:23] Unknown:
Mark. Okay, Mark.
[02:01:25] Unknown:
And people drift in and out of here. You know, sometimes the older folks come back, but generally, folks hang around. They get the understanding, and then they go on about their lives. We never hear anybody come back and go, man, this damn bad thing happened to me because of what you told me. We've never had that happen once. K?
[02:01:45] Unknown:
So Can I ask you who was the who was the gentleman that was here yesterday that that was talking about, religions? He was a great guy. I'd like to Brent.
[02:01:54] Unknown:
Brent. Brent. His name is Brent
[02:01:56] Unknown:
Winters.
[02:01:57] Unknown:
Brent. Brent. Brent. Yeah. Yeah. I know. He was great. Does does he is he on that national side of Freedom Auto?
[02:02:04] Unknown:
Well, no. He's got his own website and stuff, and his website is commonlawyer.com.
[02:02:13] Unknown:
Commonlawyer.com..com.
[02:02:15] Unknown:
He's on the air seven days a week, different and he is he is a natural resource, buddy. That guy is unbelievable.
[02:02:30] Unknown:
Interesting guy. Very interesting.
[02:02:33] Unknown:
Well, we've been we've been doing shows every Friday for about thirteen years now. So, he just had become such an important part of our show, and he just knows stuff. I've never heard anybody else knew that stuff.
[02:02:47] Unknown:
No. No. No. No. No. Yeah. Yeah. No.
[02:02:53] Unknown:
So we're just really privileged and honored to have him. He's our guide through. Because see, when you file this affidavit, and this should really matter to you, Oliver, What we're doing is we're moving over under our herettiment. You're part of that too. Irish is part of the Anglo Saxon kind of thing. You were still under a lot of those principles and concepts, weren't you?
[02:03:16] Unknown:
Well, to be honest, I don't know. I think I think Irish people originally were not considered white. I I know a lot of German people wouldn't concern but that was back in the day anyway.
[02:03:30] Unknown:
Uh-huh. Well, our our heretical our common here, and there's folks here that don't have those roots either, but this applies to you now that you've gone through this process. Of course. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You've you're moving over under the common law. They hate the common law. Our enemies hate the common law. In fact, my teacher, John Benson said, the battle we fight today is the battle that's been fought since the beginning of time. And that battle is Lex Rex or the law of the king versus nature, nature's God's law. And that's this battle and what you've done, they've hidden you from access to the common law of a lot of part because you've got a property right in you.
But now you're moving totally over under it. And the only way any of the merchant law stuff applies to you is if you've entered into a valid contract where that's included.
[02:04:31] Unknown:
Okay.
[02:04:33] Unknown:
Okay. Now I'm gonna go off and have a weekend. I've been talking to Ollie, mostly doing the talking here for a couple hours. Tickled to death to have you. Welcome to the family should you wanna be. And I believe you found a place where you can get all your questions answered honestly and factually.
[02:04:53] Unknown:
Yes? Yeah. Of course. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
[02:04:57] Unknown:
Yes. So go binge. There's tons of interviews on that website. Go binge. Because they're not all of them are the same. I use a different approach and whatnot with each one. And I just like that approach on the god's trump card because it shows you what they're doing to you and how you're doing it, and then I show you what they did with it. So I I thought it'd be more effective. Martin doesn't necessarily agree. He likes the other way. There's a number of different ways to approach it. But, boy, that understanding how they've entrapped you in your mind, because that's your ability to straighten yourself out by yourself. I find these words. Yeah. I put the right definition there. Boom. Everything's straight.
[02:05:43] Unknown:
Can can I ask you a question? Do you still vote?
[02:05:47] Unknown:
Oh, I haven't voted in twenty something years. And we talk about it, and all politics is local, and those local things do affect you where you live. And I would think some people would want to vote on that. Dave and Kaye, the ones that set up, nationalstatus.info, went and got registered in their county in Alabama as nationals to vote. Before that, it's only citizens of The United States. But they took the battle all the way to the head attorney in the secretary of state's office for the election, state Alabama, and he's the one that registered him as nationals.
And then they went back to the supervisor in their county, and they reregistered and attached their affidavit to the registration. So, yes, you can vote.
[02:06:44] Unknown:
No. No. No. It's okay. Yeah. Yeah. No. No. Yeah. It's getting very uninteresting to vote anymore anyway. The take the candidates are turning worse and worse every year every year. You know? Well, especially where you are.
[02:06:56] Unknown:
K? Yeah. So we'll see. Hopefully, that'll change. You know, I heard, who who was the Mille Lydell yesterday saying there are already a couple of states that have gotten talking about legislation, having paper ballots next year. So maybe that will continue to expand. Oh, yeah. Definitely. I hope so. Hope so. Yeah. Okay. So any anybody else got anything for me or for Oliver?
[02:07:20] Unknown:
Or, well, I'm sure some of the states I'm sure the states will continue the scamatic Hey, Dwayne. Things.
[02:07:29] Unknown:
Yeah, Roger. I've been listening to this for a little while. How y'all doing?
[02:07:34] Unknown:
I'm doing great, man. How are you guys still thinking about you?
[02:07:38] Unknown:
Oh, yeah, man. You know, we've got a new coach now for LSU. Of course I know.
[02:07:42] Unknown:
You know, it's so funny, Dwayne. I'll say this on the air. I've been thinking because it's been happening to me. You know, you're thinking about stuff and something will come in your mind that's bad or negative or something. I'll go, hey. It's alright. Lane Kiffin's our new coach.
[02:08:00] Unknown:
Oh, yeah. So but, you know, I first started getting into this, Patriot stuff probably back around 2007, 2008 when I was living in Las Vegas. And I came across you, and I and I have met many of the people that you all brought up earlier up earlier in the conversation today. I met you in about 2012, and I heard I don't know how I came across you, maybe on RBN or some place, but I I heard you talk, and it didn't normally, I don't spend money on much. It it's gotta be a bit, but I've finally decided to spend money and get your book. And it was maybe only a few months after I heard you really start to get into your description of how all this unfolded and the power of the affidavits and what have you.
I did not pull the trigger on becoming a national and submitting my affidavits to both the secretary of state of the federal secretary of state and all the local New Orleans police officials, sheriffs, DAs, prosecutors, the AG, who is now our governor. I didn't do that till early twenty twenty two, 2022. So ten years before I became convinced enough that it was okay to do this. It was imperative to do it, actually, to convert from a US citizen to a national. Fast forward to about six months ago, and I found myself at 03:00 in the morning on the side of a highway having been pulled over by a Saint Charles Parish sheriff who brought in two more sheriff's deputies arguing and they wanted to write me a ticket, which eventually they finally did. But I'm sitting there trying to teach these three sheriff's deputies at 03:00 in the morning on the side of a highway in an industrial area about the state citizen versus the US citizen, the national, the jurisdiction, trying to show them the paperwork.
They've got my passport card. They don't know what to do with me, but they finally let me go. It's but they did give me a ticket for no driver's license. God. I'm not a great story. At that point. You know? But and I'm doing the same thing to n o p or similar things to n o p d. And I tried to talk to multi probably a couple dozen n o p d guys around here about the they don't have jurisdiction over me. What are you doing? How you you know? And I I finally asked that a uniform cop, I said, well, why does nobody wanna wanna become, you know, at least learn about this?
And all he did was smile at me, like that slick smile. And when I finally be have I'm convinced that the willful ignorance is driven by the fact that if anybody that's a US citizen that is employed by the government or major corporations with licenses and stuff, they're not gonna surrender that. They make money. They have more if if all of a sudden they went to common law as a across the state and the county, the Paris County, the state and the country, their jobs would they would lose jobs because there wouldn't be near as much crime. And therefore, they don't want to they would prefer the willful ignorance instead of learning how this country was actually founded and correct the issues.
[02:11:37] Unknown:
I love you coming forward with this. I wanna ask you a question. How could it be revert back to common law when Louisiana doesn't have access to the common law? With exception of that, there was some case that some Supreme Court case, I forgot the circumstances. I think it had to do with oh, what's the prison down there? It's not Raiford. That's in Florida. A big Angola. Angola. It had to summon with Angola and the way they were treating prisoners. But Brent had brought that forward. But, anyway, I wanna use what you just said as an illustration to all the people. And, folks, mostly, you guys know it. But, boy, was this just exemplified if what you can do when you know and understand the information.
That was a great story, Dwayne.
[02:12:24] Unknown:
Well, it's it's the absolute truth. And and there was one day I had I came when I first got home, I was doing some work helping peep you know, some contractors grow their business. And I walked into a a hornet's nest of contractors screwing homeowners and a a a daughter and her mom. Anyway, long story short, I started laying the groundwork to entrap and then prosecute the the the crooked contractors. And I had to go to court a couple of years later. And, so I'm standing there. I they called me as a witness to testify for the the for the for the, for the mom and her daughter.
And, the the lady at the court puts the bible in front of me and says, raise your hand and swear you'd swear to tell the whole truth and nothing but the truth. And I looked at the judge, and I said, ma'am, you're asking me to swear on the very book that tells me not to swear. She looked up at me like and, you know,
[02:13:32] Unknown:
but it's the truth. How'd you resolve that? So she just said, resolve that. Could could
[02:13:36] Unknown:
all she did was she said, consider the witness sworn in. Because I said my yays will be yays. I said my yays will be yays and my nays will be nays. Will be nays. And that's when you know? And that's it. And I sat down and testified, and the lady and her mom won a million too. So I got the contractors. So Good. Yeah. Cool, man. Anyway, guys I hold it up. Going on down here. Got a question.
[02:14:02] Unknown:
Joan's got a question for you, I think. Was that right, Joan?
[02:14:06] Unknown:
Yes. Hey, Dwayne.
[02:14:07] Unknown:
What Hey, Joan.
[02:14:09] Unknown:
Hey. What did you do with that ticket?
[02:14:12] Unknown:
What what did you do? I paid it. I'm gonna go I'm gonna one day, I'm thinking about going back and getting the $300 from them. But I have to I'd have to go in and I I I just don't feel like dealing with Saint Charles Parish. Not for any reason, but I've got way bigger fish to fry on some other areas.
[02:14:29] Unknown:
Yep. The wise decision, Glasshopper. Pick your battles and and
[02:14:35] Unknown:
you know? So Yep.
[02:14:38] Unknown:
Alright.
[02:14:39] Unknown:
Cool. Joan, you're were you hoarse there? Are you alright? Yeah. I was hoarse there. Alright. I'm gonna I'm gonna go back on mute. Thank y'all. Okay. Dwayne, thanks for coming by. It's always great to hear that New Orleans accent, man. And, I'm so tickled about Lane Kiffin. Hey. I I really man, there I think he's a perfect fit for Baton Rouge, and I think he will do really well there. So we'll see. Alright. Who else? Roger? So by just yes, ma'am.
[02:15:15] Unknown:
It's Annie.
[02:15:17] Unknown:
Hey, Annie.
[02:15:20] Unknown:
Hey.
[02:15:23] Unknown:
I wouldn't get that.
[02:15:25] Unknown:
Oh, I can't I can't understand you, dear. Talk right in the microphone.
[02:15:29] Unknown:
Be great up. If I would
[02:15:31] Unknown:
if I would
[02:15:36] Unknown:
Yes. Yes. Quito.
[02:15:40] Unknown:
Some great places to,
[02:15:42] Unknown:
some good places to stay that I could snuck out? We let me ask you a question. Would if I could put you in a place just like a bed and breakfast that has a a million dollar view for $20 a night. Would that agree with you when you got breakfast too? Absolutely. Yep. Alright. Well, I think we can handle that. You let me know, and I'll arrange it for you. Stunning. Okay. Stunning view.
[02:16:06] Unknown:
Would I get in touch with you through Mirko?
[02:16:11] Unknown:
Yeah. Just want you to shoot me an email, Annie.
[02:16:14] Unknown:
Radioranch,nospace,@mail.com.
[02:16:21] Unknown:
Radio ranch at not not Gmail, just mail, m a I l dot com. And we can handle it through there. Okay?
[02:16:30] Unknown:
Okay. Thanks very much.
[02:16:32] Unknown:
Well, you're welcome, dear. Boys, it a pretty day today. Yikes. So, anyway, anybody else? Lee's unmuted. That's that's where that background noise where that air noise came from. Well, Lee will try and hail you again. If you don't respond, there's not much I can do about it. So, Lee, if you wanna come forward, it's a good time right now. No, Lee. I don't think they're listening. Alright. Monday, I will see.
[02:17:02] Unknown:
Yes, ma'am? He said he he said he was having trouble with his mic for a phone.
[02:17:08] Unknown:
Okay. Well, we're sorry that's happening with you. And, but we're here six days a week, so we'll be back on Monday. See what next week brings. There's a lot of very important things hanging right now, both politically, geographically, geopolitically and all that stuff. But we're just out there trying to find people who wanna be free like ours. And if somebody wants to do that, we will bend over backwards to assist you in doing so. So, Paul, thanks for everything, buddy. And, we'll you, Russ. Hope it's not too cold, up there this weekend
[02:17:47] Unknown:
or anywhere else. And I'm I'm I'm hoping it's it's supposed to be near 30 today. Okay. So Alright. And my heater's on low, and I'm I'm up to 74 degrees in the house. So Kitty's not harassing me, you know, and chattering teeth or whatever. I do wanna make a make an announcement. There are two anonymous callers in the in the room, and I think I know who they are. They could either be Sherry or they could be Michael. Just in case one of them is Ferris, I wanna make sure that I categorically state for the record and give formal notice that, Ferris, if you aren't listening, you may listen, but you may not speak. That that is not not, there's not gonna be any reprieve. There's not gonna be any pardon. There's not gonna be any commuted sentence.
[02:18:37] Unknown:
You may listen. You may not speak. So did Trump. It it breaks my heart to have to endorse that. Farris. And we didn't do it. You did it. Okay? You're welcome to listen, but you're you you just disrupt everything. So, otherwise and then I was thinking, where's lady Linda been lately? We haven't seen seen her in quite a while. I hope she's alright. So, anyway, I'll look for y'all on Monday. Have a fabulous weekend. And Thank you, Ryan. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. You're welcome. You're welcome. Yeah. Laura, she has somebody say Roger was just in party. I think that was Oliver.
[02:19:14] Unknown:
Yeah. Thank you. Thank you, Roger. Thank you. Hey, Roger.
[02:19:18] Unknown:
Now can I identify as a white male?
[02:19:22] Unknown:
Yes.
[02:19:23] Unknown:
I'm just kidding. Right? You're welcome. That was a good one right here.
[02:19:29] Unknown:
I got I got in. I got in. Everybody else identify as day one. No? You need me to do that.
[02:19:37] Unknown:
Okay. Well, that that was one thing I wanted to mention to Oliver. You're true. You know? Yeah. One thing I wanted to mention to Oliver is, you know, with all the talk about slavery and all of that stuff in this country, the slaves that they never ever talked about were the Irish Irish slaves. The Irish Catholics were the literal red headed stepchildren of slavery. Redneck. Yes. They were redneck. They were always out in the fields. They were always less favored than the black slaves. The black slaves were, had positions of
[02:20:18] Unknown:
of, I'll tell Linda you were asking for her. I'll tell Linda you were asking about her. She doesn't wanna hear from you. She doesn't wanna hear from you. Her husband said you you weren't welcome in their house.
[02:20:32] Unknown:
Okay.
[02:20:35] Unknown:
Next time he speaks up, just be a little more so we can re
[02:20:39] Unknown:
Farris, I am not gonna have you coming on my radio. Farris is already gone. Off my good established audience. He's already gone. Alright. He's probably listening. God. No. I've never seen anything like this guy in all my years broadcasting, quite honestly. No.
[02:20:57] Unknown:
Anyway, I'm gonna go have a good day. Away from my victimhood.
[02:21:01] Unknown:
Hey, Shush. I said Sorry.
[02:21:03] Unknown:
Sorry, dude.
[02:21:05] Unknown:
Get back in that lane of cotton over there. I'll see y'all on Sunday.
[02:21:10] Unknown:
For the moderators for the moderators, Farrah speaks up. Just mute him because it doesn't make any difference to be telling him
[02:21:20] Unknown:
to stay away if he's already gone. He's just He can't hear me. He's just arrogant. Just mute him. I mean, I begged him to go find somebody else to listen to. Okay. We'll see y'all on Monday. Have a super duper good weekend, and, Oliver, go study. You're welcome, mate. I was there. Study.
[02:21:36] Unknown:
Thank you very much, sir.
[02:21:40] Unknown:
Yeah. He just did that just to fly in the face of what I said. So I think I'm gonna give him a call, and I'm going to ask him what the hell he what the hell he thought he was doing. Oh, you gave him too much importance, Paul, and you have to ignore his ass.
[02:22:24] Unknown:
Morning, folks.
[02:22:26] Unknown:
Morning. Morning, Frank.
[02:22:29] Unknown:
Frank from Colorado. I was trying to jump in and give, Roger an update, but I was finishing up breakfast. Guess we got another letter from the IRS. This makes about seven I've gotten from them. And I pop in every so often. I kinda keep people posted. And my question is this, among all the people that have gotten various IRL letter IRS letters, has anybody gotten one and it's named LT26? I've gotten the CPs several of those several sign ones, but this latest one is called an LT26. Just curious if anybody out there has gotten one of these yet.
[02:23:12] Unknown:
What locations
[02:23:13] Unknown:
from? This one no. No. Excuse me. This one now is from a new location from Fresno. All my correspondence the the last one that I got was a correspondence from Texas. It was a signed letter saying that somebody from the Kansas City office, which is where we're shipping your affidavit and all that, We'll get back to you in sixty days. Well, I got heard back from sixty days, but it wasn't the Kansas City office. It's the Fresno now. So my affidavit is all over the place on these IRS offices.
[02:23:47] Unknown:
Well, if it's from Ogden, you're in hot water.
[02:23:52] Unknown:
I've gotten several from Ogden before, and I've responded to them.
[02:23:56] Unknown:
Oh, well, I guess you aren't in hot water anymore.
[02:24:00] Unknown:
Well, I the whole thing about learning from this this group is respond to them back in a timely manner. This l t 26 that I got said something to the effect with those ten day notices that said, if you don't return in ten days, this and this could happen, etcetera, etcetera. I responded to him in ten days with the whole thing of saying, stop it. Here's my affidavit again. By the way, I've responded to this, this, this, and this signed by this, this, and this on these days. They're just shuffling it around. But I was just curious if anybody got a CP letter. If not, I'm just kinda keeping people informed, and I listen in on Saturdays. And I don't know if anybody's keeping track of who gets what from whom and whatnot, but feels like I'm getting the most out of anybody.
[02:24:55] Unknown:
I've gone I've gone back and forth with them now for about a year, and I got a I got a letter, two days ago. It's an LTR 86 C, and they say, we're sending your letter to our office. This is the first time this ever, happened this way, but we're sending your letter to our office at the address shown at the end of this letter letter because they're responsible for collecting the amount you owe on your account, and that's Ogden, Utah. And then they said, that office will contact you within sixty days. So so I I I sent my revocation of the election in about a month ago, and I've been free for about four years.
But, I'm going back and forth with them, and and I I don't know where this thing is going, but but it is what it is.
[02:25:50] Unknown:
I've been about four years similar timeline as you, and, I'm I'm wondering if all of these different letters at this time are just part of when a certain amount of people started doing this. Now I didn't do a revocation. I just mailed the IRS from the point I mailed it in. I'm done with it. I'm not going to go clawing back. That's just my comfort level. I don't want to open up that can of worms, but it's just interesting how you state you've been getting a lot of these where they say, yeah, I'll get to you in sixty days. I've got a collection of them now. So I mean, I'm not too concerned. I address them as they come in politely but forcefully, and it's at some point, I don't know when they're gonna get it or what their their endgame plan is.
[02:26:35] Unknown:
I, yeah, I think they'll find I mean, from what I've heard, Frank, I think they'll finally just give up give up. But, you know, I'll just keep some like like you. I'll just continue to be polite and, respond to them within a given time. And,
[02:26:58] Unknown:
yeah, I don't know what else to do to do. Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, just letting the group know. I I guess I think I'm up to, seven now letters of this form letters stuff. So, anyway, I yield. Thanks.
[02:27:13] Unknown:
If if you guys ever heard of Eustace Mullins, he filed a lawsuit for terrorism because he was terrified.
[02:27:30] Unknown:
Alright. That's another that's another can of worms. I don't wanna go down that route.
[02:27:41] Unknown:
Yeah. But You say in a in a joking mode, but it's it's for real. You are terrified on this hand.
[02:27:54] Unknown:
Hello? Can you hear me?
[02:27:56] Unknown:
Yes.
[02:27:58] Unknown:
Don't forget his wife, anti Semite. She's terrifying too. Yeah. We heard you.
[02:28:08] Unknown:
Okay. Finally got the mic working after the show's over. Is that Lee?
[02:28:15] Unknown:
He's always happy, Oh,
[02:28:18] Unknown:
yeah. I well, I had a couple questions. Maybe some of you guys can help me.
[02:28:25] Unknown:
Speak right into your mic. You're drifting a little bit.
[02:28:28] Unknown:
I've got a scriptural wife who I'm caretaking, and we had a couple people, sign up to do the caretaking, and they they all backed out. I've had a lot of concern in filling out the form to to do this, to get paid. They ask all kinds of questions, like one about they wanted to do a w nine, I believe, and they're asking all kinds of they want fingerprints and everything. There's somebody on this site that has actually done it. I wonder if you're listening, or is there anybody that that's gone through this can maybe guide me through that?
[02:29:23] Unknown:
I believe there's somebody here from Illinois that she take care of her daughter, but I haven't heard from her for a few days. Do you remember that lady's name, from Illinois?
[02:29:39] Unknown:
I Bruce is a caretaker also. If you remember, a lot of times pre show, he comes on Bruce, takes care of that lady.
[02:29:50] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. That too. Yeah. Yeah. I remember.
[02:29:54] Unknown:
I think her name, Bory, is Mary.
[02:30:00] Unknown:
Mary as in m?
[02:30:03] Unknown:
Yes. M a r y.
[02:30:07] Unknown:
K.
[02:30:08] Unknown:
But we haven't heard from her, you know, at least a month, seems like. And Mark.
[02:30:18] Unknown:
Yeah. Well, there's gaps. Mark. Yeah. But I don't think that Mark get paid for it. You know? It's people that get paid from the government for taking care of their own family member. You know? He's not
[02:30:30] Unknown:
Yeah. They got all kinds of hoops to jump through. I just didn't wanna get hung by one of the hoops. Yeah. They want fingerprints and all. Background check, the whole nine yards. And I I'm hesitant about doing it, but, I need I'm two quarters away from collecting retirement, and I'm 75. So I thought it would help. Is there any actually, I'm looking for work, like, work at home because, my wife takes a lot of lot of time. I can't leave the place. Does anyone know of any place that you can work at home that, that takes out Social Security?
[02:31:27] Unknown:
Silence make consent. No. I don't think that someone know. Maybe you can self report to Social Security.
[02:31:44] Unknown:
No. It I've I've gone through well, maybe there's a way, but I don't know about it. You you have to have, you know, the all your quarters in or they it's a no go. That's right.
[02:31:56] Unknown:
Okay.
[02:31:59] Unknown:
I just need to.
[02:32:02] Unknown:
Yeah. A lot of a lot of medical billing is done from home. I know several people that do medical billing from their home. That's their full time job. Also, a lot of insurance companies do things from, have people do things from home. So there's two avenues you can approach.
[02:32:24] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. There's just so many scams out there that, I don't even wanna try it unless I know somebody's actually done it.
[02:32:37] Unknown:
Hey. Another your local contact your local hospital, contact your local medical offices. Just start working the phone, and, hopefully, you'll hit pay dirt with one of them. I like I said, I do know people that their full time job is medical billing from home. That's how they make their money. That's how they get paid and so forth. Who you contact? I just gave you the best avenues to contact. Your local hospital contact, the personnel department, talk to them, human resources.
[02:33:15] Unknown:
Yeah.
[02:33:17] Unknown:
Okay. You're way behind on and you're 75 on your quarters.
[02:33:25] Unknown:
I didn't quite catch that.
[02:33:28] Unknown:
How are you so behind on your quarters at 75?
[02:33:35] Unknown:
Why haven't why haven't I got my quarters? Yeah. Well, I've been actually caretaking for the past twenty years and not getting paid for it because it's my family. I didn't wanna, you know, I just didn't wanna I felt that I just shouldn't get paid to take care of my own family. Before that, I I work on a farm, doing farm labor stuff, and I've just never have never had Social Security taken out.
[02:34:07] Unknown:
Wow.
[02:34:11] Unknown:
If I wait long enough, I won't have to worry about it. Another thing. I got a juror qualification notice. They want me to be a juror, and, I don't they used to send out a paper paper form. Now they want you to do it online. And I don't know what I don't know what to anticipate because I can't see the form. Has anybody, filled out a juror qualification notice on online that knows knows the ins and outs about it?
[02:34:49] Unknown:
I haven't done it online, but I've been on jury duty. Question. Do you wanna make a difference in someone's life or a bunch of people's lives, or do you not want to be involved?
[02:35:03] Unknown:
Well, yeah, that's the question I ask myself. Right now, I am so I'm swamped with things to do. I'm I I inherited a farm for my folks. I've got five houses to take care of and and a wife that's that needs my attention all the time. So it's something I'd like like to do, but I don't know if I can.
[02:35:29] Unknown:
Then fill out your jury certificate or paperwork and say that you can't be on a jury because of full time guardianship of wife and taking care of her health and so forth needs. That'll disqualify you from jury duty.
[02:35:43] Unknown:
Yeah. Well, I'm over 75 too, and that's that's another thing that disqualifies you. But you gotta fill it out anyway. If you don't fill it out, they drag you in the court. And so I just wanna avoid that too.
[02:35:57] Unknown:
Just fill it out, send it in, and it'll be as proofful as possible. It will not change your legal status as a national no matter how you answer the question. Well, they they do it online.
[02:36:08] Unknown:
That they sent me they sent me a thing in the mail to do it online.
[02:36:14] Unknown:
It's no different than the fines that is in a that you take in. Just do it, and that way you don't get in trouble, get drugged in court for not filling out the paperwork.
[02:36:25] Unknown:
Well, that's what I got to. I got a card in the mail. It sent me to a website and asked the question, are you a US citizen? I indicated no. And I've Answer no.
[02:36:39] Unknown:
Yeah. I didn't Comment.
[02:36:49] Unknown:
Go ahead.
[02:36:51] Unknown:
Yeah. I just I just wanted to let you know that in King County, Washington, when they send you a jury duty notice and you respond online, one of the qualifications, you have to be a US citizen. So you just check that I am not a US citizen, and then they say, we have recognized your response, and you are released from jury duty. I yield.
[02:37:14] Unknown:
That's what I did in Texas. Yeah. I was just wondering what kind of other questions they ask. You know? I just I'm trying to avoid the the legal traps. I just wonder if there's anything in there that could, bind me to their jurisdiction or whatever.
[02:37:34] Unknown:
No.
[02:37:35] Unknown:
Just fill it out and send it in. Don't be afraid of it. Well, yeah, I can't I can't send it in. I have to do it online. Do that. I go and talk to him personally, and that's, you know, that's a pain too.
[02:37:53] Unknown:
I, though, went down there and banged on the doors and said I'm not that person and got relieved.
[02:38:01] Unknown:
That's true. You
[02:38:03] Unknown:
can always send an explanatory statement.
[02:38:07] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. I'll I'll I'll I'll open it up. It's like sort of Pandora's box. I haven't I've gone to the site and everything. They've got a they've got a juror ID number and all that. And so I'll probably just go on there. I just wanna know if there's any anything I need to watch out for online.
[02:38:36] Unknown:
This encourages you to make other people, American nationals.
[02:38:45] Unknown:
I wish everyone was. I used the term American National. I've never seen that in any court cases or anything. Is there a significance of saying American National over just plain National?
[02:39:11] Unknown:
Yeah. Probably just use National. Yeah. I guess it's my bad. My bad. Either one of them works. The American National
[02:39:19] Unknown:
is found in in the corporate documents.
[02:39:25] Unknown:
Okay. I've just never seen it.
[02:39:31] Unknown:
Yeah. In in one place,
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in
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a in the corporate documents, it's in one place from what I've read. But I guess if you're
[02:39:45] Unknown:
Roger is okay with that one.
[02:39:48] Unknown:
US title a. You'll see title a. You would USC title a. You're better off
[02:39:54] Unknown:
you're better off using the term Utah and Californian and then put the word national behind it.
[02:40:08] Unknown:
Yeah. I agree. I think the only time you'd use American nationals if you were in another country, if you're in Britain or something, and you could say I'm an American national. But outside of that, I agree. Just national.
[02:40:24] Unknown:
Just like they do. They say they're a German national or a Mexican national, Honduran
[02:40:35] Unknown:
national.
[02:40:42] Unknown:
I sent a letter in to the the courts. I got asked beyond jury duty. I sent a letter into that court just stating who I was and that, because I'm not a US citizen, I don't believe I would give a a fair judgment against that person because they're not they're not the same as me. We are not you know, we don't have the same political status.
[02:41:08] Unknown:
Jury appears. Exactly. Now has anyone, run-in that in court if they've gone in in a jury trial and challenged the whole the whole jury, the whole 24 or whatever they got up there, ask if if anyone is a national. If they're not a national, disqualify everyone.
[02:41:42] Unknown:
They only give you, certain number of strikes. You can't disqualify everyone on a jury. They only they only give you each side, like, three or four rights.
[02:42:00] Unknown:
They're liable to disqualify you. And I'd like to make a difference. I'm on a lot of There's a lot of people on juries that wanna hang someone just because they had an interaction crap.
[02:42:37] Unknown:
Or that ignorantly presume. Well, if the cops got him, he had to have been guilty.
[02:42:48] Unknown:
No. You can't eat it?
[02:42:52] Unknown:
Who made the medicaments? That were on
[02:42:54] Unknown:
the two idiots that were on my jury, they said, we're right wing Republican. And if you have any interaction with the police, then you're guilty. That was their stance. Everybody else thought differently.
[02:43:21] Unknown:
They were making a political statement. Idiots. Idiots. Oh, by the way, by the way, I would like to I would like to share a valuable piece of information with everybody. Hopefully, we'll be hopefully, this will will, suit you. I, my take is that no matter how bad a day you're having, listening to Indian Christmas music makes everything all better.
[02:44:10] Unknown:
Would that be the redskin Indian, or is that the Indian. Pakistani Indian
[02:44:17] Unknown:
or the Indian Indian Indian Indian. Indian. The Indian Indians. No matter how bad your day is going Just
[02:44:50] Unknown:
Ew.
[02:44:54] Unknown:
Ew. I love you, Joan.
[02:45:02] Unknown:
Ew. While they're sweating over in the in the pooja.
[02:45:10] Unknown:
Mhmm. Are we home? It's very hard to have a bad day when you are listening to Indian Christmas carols. Okay. Never mind.
[02:45:26] Unknown:
Only in America.
[02:45:28] Unknown:
Yes. Only in America. And somebody I don't know who it was, but somebody changed into Room 1 trying to escape it, but it was there too. Holy crap. Holy crapage. So where else do we wanna go before I take the showdown and wrap up the wrap up the archives for the week. Oliver, are you still there?
[02:46:01] Unknown:
I'd like to throw something in.
[02:46:05] Unknown:
Okay. Hang on just a second, Samuel. Oliver probably hung up. Let's see. Let me see if he looks like he is in the list. It does not look like he is in the list. Go ahead, Samuel.
[02:46:24] Unknown:
Yeah. For those of you who wanna read about evidences regarding the all caps name, get, an e version of, Melvin Stamper's book, JD, fruit from a poisonous tree, and go to the back of the book in the summary, and there's five pages, and all of that is about the proofs of that name. This is definitely not a common law name. It's not a Christian name. And if you answer to it, my opinion, like all this mail we get, etcetera, for even these things on caring for people, etcetera? I mean, you were immediately put in this dilemma. But I have two thoughts on the dilemma. I mean, if you're a state citizen and outside of it and you answer to that name, are you back in? Well, from what I understand about how we used to be prior to the fourteenth amendment, a person in this country could contract within and without the, the constitution and be fine.
You could do it at will. But, ultimately, I think we should make that claim in our notice of all these things that we feel are what we believe and have them respond if they are in disagreement or otherwise they're in agreement. And I think that's probably the best way to handle it.
[02:48:09] Unknown:
I can encapsulate everything you said with a very, very short subset of words that you actually said if you answer to it. They've created an entity that they represent using all caps. If you answer to it, then you're granting their jurisdiction. If you walked into a courtroom and the judge looked at you and said, are you Elmer Fudd? And you said yes, you would still be agreeing to his jurisdiction if you answer to it. Any question they give you that you answer to like a good little obedient servant, grants them jurisdiction. It has nothing to do with the all caps name.
It is simply an entity whether you are going to agree to be subject to it or not. That's the key. So those five pages could have very easily said if you agree to it, if you answer to it. It's not I I mean, I'm with Mark on this. It's not simply that they're all capital names or all capital letters. It's not simply. It's them asking you, are you this person? And you say, yes. You're screwed.
[02:49:37] Unknown:
Yeah. Unfortunately, they don't make it that simple. I think that you should do preemptive notices to that to these kinds of points so that you're clear and give them an opportunity to refute you. And if when they don't, then that gives you the ammunition that you need, when you come in contact with them against your will, that well, they've already agreed with your will. That's sort of what I'm saying. And I think it's a deadly mistake that we make in this group is that we don't respect it. I mean, they're not gonna be forthcoming in telling you about it anymore. They're they're gonna be forthcoming in telling you about the the fact that you had two different statuses and you had a choice.
They make a lot of money on that name.
[02:50:29] Unknown:
Of course they do. You know?
[02:50:31] Unknown:
Stamper calls it a trust, and he gets into the detail of why and how it's not a Christian name. And he cites Black's Law sixth edition, page 1,023 under name, what the definition is, and then later on, he cites it again in another, area where it's Christian name. I mean and you got Terry Lee as or or, Randy Lee as well doing that little ten minute duel with IRS court down in LA area where he points out that he's not that name. That's not his law. His law is the Bible, etcetera. And it gets dismissed for being the wrong person. A misnomer.
I mean, they re they don't make it easy, though, to find out, and it's also probably this vessel of The United States.
[02:51:43] Unknown:
But they didn't dismiss the case.
[02:51:48] Unknown:
No. They never He said next case. He he didn't have a a case to dismiss.
[02:51:54] Unknown:
So the case was still there. And if he at any point in the future ever identified himself as that name and somebody knew about that case, they would hang him with it.
[02:52:06] Unknown:
Well, that's a stretch, Paul. But, it's not a stretch.
[02:52:11] Unknown:
It's not a stretch. He said so himself. He said so himself that he was there, and the the case got pushed off. He walked away free. He came back into the courthouse for, like, a divorce hearing or something like that, and they nailed him for both of them.
[02:52:31] Unknown:
No. That's not true. That's a different person under a different situation where that happened.
[02:52:38] Unknown:
Okay. Well, he still said somebody said, I am not that person, And the next time he said he was that person, they nailed him. They locked him out. Not They dragged him into court, and they and they hung him. Not literally hanging him, but they hung him.
[02:52:59] Unknown:
Not Randy Lee. Is this a different person? It's in the book of the hundreds. That's mistakes that people make and pointing them out, what you do and what you don't do.
[02:53:23] Unknown:
Yeah. You don't ever, ever, ever walk into a court of law again. Don't walk into a government building
[02:53:35] Unknown:
and show I understand that courts of law. They're courts of equity, and
[02:53:40] Unknown:
and that name is Whatever. Whatever. Whatever.
[02:53:49] Unknown:
What happened? If Yes, Joan.
[02:53:51] Unknown:
If a national named Harry got a plea ticket traffic ticket, and they went to court. And the judge said, are you Harry such and such last name with a last name? And could that national could Harry the national say no? The, no. That's not me.
[02:54:25] Unknown:
Well, strictly according to people like Randy Lee, when you show up and you answer to the name that they call, they have jurisdiction. Because they're gonna call the name, so they consider you already under jurisdiction when you show up. Okay. So what if he just stays seated in his feet and does not get up? Well, the whole book of the hundreds ends up with the abatement process, Joan. You don't go there. Go. You serve them Right. With paperwork refuting all of their claims that are false.
[02:55:07] Unknown:
I was just wondering what would happen if, the judge said, are you Harry such and such? And Harry said no.
[02:55:15] Unknown:
I was just wondering According to Stamper, it's sort of up to the judge because the judge can do anything he wants as long as it doesn't disturb the peace.
[02:55:25] Unknown:
Okay. Thank you.
[02:55:29] Unknown:
So you're sort of at their mercy. I guess if you went in there and you're very kind and gentle and wise as serpent, as gentle as a dove, and you, complimented the judge for him out here as understanding, etcetera, he might be lenient, but that doesn't mean he has to be.
[02:55:51] Unknown:
Yeah. Who knows what a judge is gonna do?
[02:55:55] Unknown:
Yeah. Sampras says he can do anything he wants as long as he doesn't disturb the peace. So and it's definitely not in common law or the republic that name, and it's not Christian. For for those grounds alone, not being a Christian name, I wanna refute it because I am one, and I don't wanna renounce my Christianity to a system that I consider is run by Satan. And that's the reason they use that name is to renounce my Christianity. That's the way I look at it.
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They don't answer to that name.
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Yeah.
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And don't show up this way. Careful careful about and and try to under I mean, Mark says there's no evidence. Well, I just gave you place you can look. And by the way, Mark won't read Stamper's book because Stamper believes things that he doesn't believe, like, the girlfriend's flag, only he put Stamper points out that that was an order from Eisenhower, and it's in the national register.
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And then seeing fruit from a poisonous tree?
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Yeah. Pretty sure it's in there too. It's hard to sometimes keep everything straight, you know, and all the different things one reads.
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Right.
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I'm pretty pretty sure that's in there. As well as as I think it's in the book of the hundreds.
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Cool. Proovy. Okay. Alright. We're just about at 02:00. That's close enough. Let's, take this thing down for the day. The conference rooms will remain open. So if you wanna join us live, you can go to the matrixdocs.com and click on any of the free conference call links and actually join the after show discussion. As long as your name isn't Ferris, everybody's welcome. This is the Radio Ranch with Roger Sales, the Sabato edition. We'll be back Monday, Monday morning, 11AM to 1PM eastern, as we are six days a week, Monday through Saturday. Thank you so much for joining us today. We can't wait to see you back here again for the Radio Ranch with Roger Sales. Ciao.
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As would we, as would we, and we get up on a Saturday morning even to get up and try and change the world. How about that? Just dedication, motivation. Here we go. Radio Ranch Saturday edition, Sabado. If you wanna take your Spanish lesson for the day. Roger Sales, your host, Radio Ranch. It is the December 6, college football playoff day. Paul, I think we have a very light compliment of, people that assist us today. Is that correct, or is that different today for some reason?
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I'm telling you, we're lighter than Jenny Craig. We've got, eurofolkradio.com. Thanks to pastor Eli James. We've got radio.globalvoiceradio.net, rumble.globalvoiceradio.net. Radiosoapbar soapbox.tv. Uh-huh. Soapboxtv.net.
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Oh. I'm I'm not I'm not exactly sure which which one that is. Just a sec. We got a whole bunch of folks we usually don't have on Saturdays, so that's good.
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Yeah. Well, Eurofolk is brought to us by pastor Eli James and all the other platforms I bring to the mix. So we've got four video and one audio platform that I bring to the mix. So we're still on six.
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Yeah. Well, I mean, we wanna give them proper credit and recognition for joining us at the hip and see if we could spread this thing a little bit more, put the tentacles out further, as they say, Paul.
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So you got to fix all of them? If we weren't so antiseptic, I could also put us on at least two YouTube channels too. Oh, lord. I don't think that would last long.
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It probably wouldn't. I think AI would bounce us out of there pretty quick. Yeah. They would take Anyway, well, that's, hey. Guess what? We got no no social media either. You know, I I like Jim Willie. He says, I'm on no social media channels. Good, Jim. Me either. I wanted to say I saw a delightful pastor, new to me, probably to most of us, on Thursday on Harrison Smith's show in the second hour. And all I know is his first name is Joel, and he has a church there in North Of Austin somewhere. But, boy, the the this guy sounded like you were listening to a young Brent. Okay?
And, it was just fascinating. He he upsets all kinds of people, putting out traditional things like the differences in the Is it Joel Olsteen?
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Pardon me? Is it Joel Olsteen?
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I don't think it's Olsteen. No. He's he's the crystal palace kinda guy, but he's just really refreshing young preacher. He looks to be in his, I don't know, thirties, maybe mid thirties, early thirties. He's a great mind and he's, pissing all kinds of people off. One of the things he said is he goes, yes. I'm an anti semite. Would you like to hear some of my other good qualities? Yeah. The kind of guy I like and, nice sense of humor. And if you wanna get a refreshing view of some of the young pastors and spiritual folks coming up, he's a Protestant. Over there on the second hour, he did almost the entire second hour with Harrison on Thursday.
And I wish I could remember his name, and, but he you may wanna go check him out out of curiosity. I meant to mention that yesterday, and we were interrupted pleasantly, by the the visitor from the East. And, always a pleasure to have mister English drop by. He's just such a delightful guy. I mean, really, one of the one of the real, things that's happened to me over all my years in the patriot movement is crossing paths with Paul. Just enjoy him tremendously. So it's always a pleasure when he drops by. Threatened to drop by again for the end of the year there at the last fall. Yes. He threatened to drop by again. How was the show on Thursday over there? The the the English show on Thursday because it was getting better. Loads of fun.
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Yeah. We had, Frederick Blackburn, Blackburn nine. He showed up for, the Oh, yeah. That guy. The that's the guy that likes to do the comedy. Thinks he's,
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he he should have, been on stage as a stand up comic. Right? The same guy. Right? Yeah. Yeah. Same guy. Yeah. Yeah. He's alright. Good. Well, let's see what's going on this morning. I was hoping I kept thinking Ollie was, maybe gonna be with us. That's today. And if he's gonna start coming around on these Saturday shows because he works during the week, Paul, I guess we know, found out. You're gonna need to load up Lorena McKennett for him one of these Saturday mornings and give that intro, that that lovely, lovely flaming red hair Irish lassie with that angelic voice that goes to octaves almost unreachable by others.
Wonderful artist, Lorena McKennett. So here we go on the Saturday edition. What I don't know of anything that really happened yesterday when I saw that, Mark with us today? Argue with us? Yes. He is. Easy. Mark came in. Well, Mark dropped me a, hey, Mark. Morning. Mark dropped me a, a message, yesterday talking about how Alex Jones is on fire. Of course, it looks like we're about to go into a civil war. The the enemy is losing. Man, at every turn, they're getting exposed like crazy, and they're they're getting desperate, it would appear, from some of the moves that are showing up. I wish I could come up with one right off the top of my head, but there's a number of them. How are you doing, Mark?
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Doing okay. Doing okay. I mean, it was, let's see. When was that? Was that Thursday show or Friday? That thing no. I think it was Thursday's you were talking about. Yeah. Oh, might have been yesterday's. Yeah. I think it was yesterday's because I was listening to it live. Alex is just totally exposing their game plan, and he's not the only one. The attorney, Lionel, who I I used to follow pretty closely Yeah. He come out with a video, and I guess him and Alex are, you know, phone buddies and talk quite a bit. And he you know, Alex was saying, yeah, what what Lionel had was not only spot on, but it was even more detailed than what Alex even had put together.
So he was really giving him some kudos on that. So, what it comes down to they talked about first the CIA method of overthrowing other countries.
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Call them revolutions.
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Right. Right. So there's a whole very systematic way of doing that. And sometimes it can happen real quickly, sometimes it doesn't. A lot depends on how unified the country is, its citizens. If you're Of course the first thing they want to do is start dividing up groups of people and so you got factions of citizens fighting against each other. Maybe not physically fighting but politically fighting and then they start making the current leadership appear to be illegitimate or they stole an election or whatever. And then the factions that's against the president. Well, the next step right before they overthrow the country is they infiltrate the military.
Yeah. And they they get the mindset of the military not to support their commander in chief or their president, depending on what they call it in their their country. Right? So their head leader, who they're trying to overthrow, they get the military to psychologically say, you don't have to follow any of those orders. And if you step back, that's exactly what they've been doing in The United States. I mean, to the
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to check every box, they're doing it with us Yeah. And Trump.
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Yeah. And it's okay. And and as Lionel said, it it's a very slow coup. But but nonetheless, it's in full gear. It's an absolute full gear, and they know what they're doing. I'm just praying that Trump will expose them because I think, you know, sunlight is the most the best disinfectant on these scumbags. Oh, yeah. They scurry. Once you know yeah. Once you know the game and everybody else knows the game,
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then it's it's over without even firing a shot. Well, it's kinda like what we do here. Once we figured it out, you ain't got a chance because you can't do anything except to expose yourself more.
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Okay. That's true.
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Yes. Evidently, Trump thank goodness for some of these, Michael Flynn. I mean, thank goodness Michael Flynn didn't take one of these positions inside the government. He can be this agent, roving agent for Trump that can get back to him and give him some of these. Did you hear, Mark, the, guy with overstock? Oh, I can't think of his name right now. It's, but he's been behind the scenes doing espionage work. Originally, he didn't know it. He was under the pin of Obama.
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No. Is that Altman?
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No. It's not Altman. It's, the Patrick Burns.
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K? Okay. You know what I'm talking about? Patrick Burns?
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He's been on the overstock, but I I couldn't I couldn't I don't miss Patrick Burns at all. Well, the guy was a billionaire,
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and, he got recruited to get into these behind shadowy scenes activities under Obama, not knowing it, and has been in that espionage world for some time and has spent almost all of his money, and, spent a lot of time in Venezuela. So he's the one no. You didn't hear about this. He's the one that found the guy that defected that was under both Chavez and Maduro as their head intelligent agent that set up this whole election thing with the with ScanMatic. K? Okay. And they defected. Him and somebody else and Patrick Burns, they defected to him. And he, out of his own pocket, paid for him to get out of Venezuela, put him over in Switzerland.
Now the guy has been charged and has caught, and he was charged with a drug offense that he had been charged with back around 2011. And he's sitting in Rikers Island. Guess who his cellmate is? P Diddy.
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P Diddy. Oh my goodness.
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So this guy, they sneak it into. He said the the CIA and that creep that's behind, Pam Bondi, Todd Blanchard, I think is his name. Yeah. They're desperately trying to, okay, keep him out of contact, but they somehow smuggled in a paralegal that spent months in there with this guy dictating to him all this stuff and signing all these things. You you you man, I hope you're sitting down. You hadn't heard this. Right? Do you know how many countries, elections they've been meddling in for twenty years?
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Oh, no telling. Oh, yeah. Go ahead. Take a whack. I I can only imagine.
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Seventy Seventy something?
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Countries, they've been manipulating their elections for twenty years with these smart medic machines.
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Wow.
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Yeah. Is that not new to on that? You know, he said he said, that when the he was with, colonel Flynn when he was getting this information, he said colonel Flynn, the consummate warrior, was just stone faced, calm faced all the way through the interview. And he said at the very end, the guy goes, let me tell you this. Just what I just told you. He said Flynn's face turned white.
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Wow.
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Now that has gone back to to Trump. Trump's aware of this. What does that mean? This is why we're gonna Pardon
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me? Mean by Flynn? He couldn't believe it was that much when he said his face turned white, like he was shocked. Yeah. Well, he was shocked at thinking about
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what they've been fighting twenty years in the control of these guys. They would never do that in The US. Oh, no. No. They would never have those guys. No. No. No. No. United States. No. No. It was in The US too. And, anyway, all that that being facetious. Part that's partially why we're, going into Venezuela is this is the major part of it. It's not necessarily the drugs and some of those other things. Those are being used as excuses. But here's the other thing. Get this. Get this. When The US was laying Internet cable down to South America, they lay a trunk cable out in the in the Gulf Of America, right, along the coast, and then they branch off little jack legs in and jack it into the country. Venezuela called the Russians, and the Russians sent over their technical experts, and they've been tapped into our whole internal system for, god knows, twenty years.
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Who's been tapped into our system? The Russians?
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Russians. Okay. Venezuela, let them tap into their yeah. You let them tap into their Internet tap, and it's got all this stuff going right into government, databases, everything. They've had access to everything in our country for almost twenty years.
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Wow. Well, when you're part of the globalist cabal and, you know, all's fair.
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So I know Samuel and I have had some, discussions on this. Samuel said, oh, don't go over there. You're gonna hear, you know, all the things I can understand. But this is one that everybody's on there. I mean, he Patrick Burns, all these other people. Look. Look. I've been anti war since Vietnam, but we've got to do this. We gotta do it. Wow. Yep. So it's very close. They're and and not only that, Mark, get this. That's where all of the dims and sorrows are there wandering a bunch of their money through there Sure. On top of everything else.
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Well, that in Ukraine, that's the most Yeah. Up to the war, that was the most, you know reportedly by all the top newspapers that Ukraine was the most corrupt country in the world. And that's where tons of money would flow through for kickbacks and that's how these politicians become wealthy Mhmm. Is they're circulating money through there, and it makes its way back through different channels Yeah. Into their pockets.
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And and for those of you who might be unaware, Ukraine was the Khazars. You've heard the expression beyond the pale? Yeah. That's Ukraine. That's Ukraine. This is their ancient homelands where they were relegated to. K? This is why they hate the Russians so much to this day because the Rus came down from the North before it was Russia and broke up that kingdom. And they broke up that Qasr kingdom and all of them, most of them went into Eastern Europe. Those are all your international bankers. Those are the Ashkenazi Jews. So this has got ancient history behind it. And as we know from these folks and their well, let's say their relationship with the Arabs, they don't forget. They carry grudges.
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Sure. Sure. It gets passed down from one generation to the next.
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And they are the haters. See? They're all the hate in the world to to me almost emanates from them. Okay?
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Not all of this is a great story. About Smartmatic because Mike Lindell, the pillow guy, he's under a big lawsuit by the same company. And now because this has all come out, they've dropped all their lawsuits against everybody else except for Mike. Except him. Uh-huh. Did you hear his announcement yesterday? Yeah. He's running for governor of Minnesota. Governor governor of Minnesota. I think he'll have a really good chance of winning too. He very well met. Timing for that's really good.
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So, another guy, multimillionaire, they'll spend everything he had fighting this battle in the last four years. They've just about they've tried to literally run him not only in the ditch, but make him go into the culvert. Yeah. I mean, they have really been after him.
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If you ever heard his personal story, and he was a he was a drug addict, a serious drug addict. He was a crack addict. Yeah. And and and found Jesus Found Jesus and got healed up. He was so bad that his dealers come in and stopped him. Said we're like cutting you off. And and primarily because they were seriously concerned that he was about to die from Yeah. From the level of of drugs that he was taking. I mean, that's pretty bad when your own drug dealer show up and don't want you to die. Well So Time me off. No. No. Of course, they lose a customer. Yeah.
Right. Of course, they lose a customer, but really, I think that's just God's intervention. You know, God will use anything to to move people. If you're so stubborn, you can't you can't see the the signals, he'll send somebody else to send the signals for you. Yes. He will. Yes. He will. So And then he gets out of that. He shakes he shakes that addiction.
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He gets out and starts this My Pillow company and builds a multimillion dollar fortune for himself after being a crack addict. I mean, come on. These are really exceptional people, folks. Exceptional. Yes. Was that someone trying to get in there and say something? I didn't hear anybody. I thought I did. Okay. So, anyway, that's the new deal. Mike Mendel's running for governor, and I'll bet tampon Tim is shaking in his tampon Oh, all it is. Containers. He's gotta be. Did,
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did you see where where Trump, terminated the temporary protected status for Somalians in Minnesota? Yes. And he talked about Somalian gangs are terrorizing, the people in the great state of Minnesota.
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Do you know what the latest is on how much they've, well, I'd say stolen. You could say embezzled, kindness. I know you could billions. Three. I know it's in the Three. But I don't know. Still counting. 3,000,000,000 Yeah. And counting. Now for the audience, you might not understand this. Start throwing these, trillions, billions around out there. Let's put it into something we can all relate to. Time. So if you had a million seconds, Mark, it'd be about eleven and a half days. K. A billion seconds is thirty three and a half years.
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Wow.
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A billion is a million million. Yeah. A trillion no. A thousand. A trillion is a thousand billion. A thousand trillion is a quadrillion. And that's where we're up to in the amount of derivatives out there in the quadrillions. Oh my gosh. Talking about a house
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my gosh. Talking about a house of cards.
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Well, it's very close to Topplin, folks. That's why I keep preaching on here, please, if you can get some medals. You know, we're talking yesterday, Miles Franklin, Sheckman, and Hawthorne, all those guys. They got a a bunch of junk silver. And what happened was years ago when they made that change, people went out and stocked up on junk silver. And now all of a sudden, there's he he will sell you junk silver with silver doing what it's doing. The finest way to hold silver in the world is junk silver for American coins. No premium.
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Yeah.
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No premium on something that is minted by the government, recognized yes, sir. Just a second. Recognized by people, and accepted on something where you have small amounts and you don't have to require change. It's a excellent way to own some sort of protector for your wealth. Now who was saying hello there? Good good morning.
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Good morning there. It's Oliver. Just, a Hey, Oliver. Good morning.
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Hey, man. Now let me introduce you to Mark. Ollie, let me introduce you to Mark here. Mark's our kinda paralegal guy. He's been a paralegal over twenty years. He's a friend to the show, and he's around most of the time. He's taking care of his parents right now, which distracts him a bit. We don't get to see him as much. Ollie stumbled in last week after the show. I've always wanted to call somebody Ollie. So sorry, Oliver. Yeah. And, and, he's he's Irish. He's naturalized, and he got into this status change stuff. I'm gonna have him tell us the whole story here because first time we've really had him on the air on this Saturday because he works. And I'd like to know your whole story, Oliver, but I want to introduce you to Mark and some of the rest of the folks.
We have folks on here on Saturday that can't, like you, can't be with us other days of the week. So, anyway, welcome to the group, Ollie, and we'd like to find out something about you. Besides, we know that you're Irish. We know you immigrated. And, are you a dual citizen still?
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Yeah. I am. I am. I am. Yeah. I am a Jewish Well, at least it's not Israel. Oh, oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Of course. Of course. Of course. And I I just wanted to make a quick reply to you about your last comment just before I go into the whole story or just a little story about myself. I I just wondered, does it matter about The US debt if all the the the the debt is is owed in US Dollars?
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Well, it makes a difference to the people that are trying to pay the debt off with it that don't have it. That's where they really take over these small countries. They load them up with loans. They're all based in dollars. They have their own local currency or something. And when they got to pay that debt back, it's got to be paid back in dollars. That's Argentina's problem. Oh, I I know it's they went on the dollar here.
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No. No. No. I I'm I'm my my question is that, does it matter for America that it owes a national debt like that? Because they can print away out of that. No. They can print any amount of dollars and from nothing Well pay off their own net in debt. Am I am I What's my reason to say that? I'm I'm asking the question.
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Okay. Well, how about if I told you that if our information got out, there wouldn't be any debt because it's all based on fraud? Yeah. That's true. That's a good answer. Thank you. Thank you. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No. No. No problem. Thank you very much, sir. And see, that's part of why we scare them so badly because part of what we do here is pull you out of the IRS. And when you pull somebody out of the IRS, that's where they've got you yoked to the wagon with all that pile of debt there that you and your grandchildren and their grandchildren are supposed to pay with all this user's compound interest, compounding on other compounded interest. But all that's based on fraud, and we can prove it.
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Right. Right. Excuse me. Go ahead. And,
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so that's another reason. I think they're real real scared of this. They got no answers. They got no answers. They can't come back and do anything except take the mask off and be open tyrants. That's our only option. With our process, we put them right into the corner, and we put them right in Checkmate. There's not a damn thing they can do about it.
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How about that? Yeah. They told them any answer. Right? But I've I have yet to see an answer. Right? But
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yeah. Yeah. Well, I can tell you we've been doing this on the air with folks for fifteen years. Yeah. Probably going on sixteen. And out of all the people that have ever done this, and I think there's probably millions, there never been one objection. Occasionally, we'll get a what we term a bluff letter. They'll try and see just how much you know and see if they can fool you again. Once you know their game, you can see right through it. And there's never been an action on come blow back on anybody. That's reported it to me. K? So anyway, that's what we got. We got a pretty unblemished track record, Oliver, and I'm I gotta tell you, I'm damn proud of it. K?
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Hey, Ralph. No. No. Yeah. Yeah. No. You you asked the questions about myself. I just, I tell you what, I just stumbled on this whole thing couple years ago, through David Strait, whom I met. I was at a conference with I never went the full way about becoming a state analysis. I also looked into Patrick Devine as well. I don't know if you ever heard of him, Patrick Devine. No. Uh-uh. Did you did you ever hear of the the Granada, Granada Forum? No? It it was around the forum. Uh-huh. It it was around about the time the Tesla Forum. Do you remember the Tesla Forum where you had all these speakers around Las Vegas?
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I don't remember any of that stuff, but, I will tell you, I don't know how closely you followed mister Strait. And I don't mean to, oh, beseech the dead, but mister Strait taught people a lot of crap. And one of the things we'll try and do is get that stuff out of your mind if you ever let it in there, like admiralty law, law stands for land, air, and water, all this kind of stuff. Well, mister mister Strace is just wrong. He was just absolutely dead wrong. And and, I can prove it. So that's one thing. And I know you mentioned his name the other day, so we'll get to that. Alright? Don't forget the gold French flag. Well, I don't wanna forget What? Are all capital letters or any of that stuff. Man back here. He was
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he was named around itching to tell you about about the old French bus. Well, Oliver needs to know that Mark was
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in the Patriot Movement, was about to get out, stumbled across our information, and he's back. And he has a straw man Oh. Which is another one of his arguments. And he was out. And, so that's one of the reasons Mark loves coming around here is we got the answer, man. There ain't no doubt about it. Okay? There are no ifs or no answers, no buts. I can pretty much back up everything I teach and tell you. And, it's never been addressed in any negative way by the federal government. Now where we have problems, occasionally, I'll get Paul, I'll get you a second, is with traffic stuff.
And the reason for that is because those are all local jurisdictions and they're they're they're not, you know, they're not in agreement. And some of those Boss Hogg and those people that run the county, they don't want some Irishman coming in and telling them about the law.
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Excuse me. No. No. No. I
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I I I don't I don't think well, I mean, I would only tell them to defend myself. I I I don't think it's right to tell someone in their own country what's what. You know? I I really I don't believe in that. But if you have to defend myself, I have to. You know? Well, I do understand that. And that's what we our object is to keep you out of court. Okay? Paul, what what do you got for us? Especially lately, I got a court case out of Oregon, Mark, that was talked about yesterday.
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Is you're just gonna poop your pants. Go ahead, Paul.
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I'm I'm going to respectfully disagree with with one of the statements that you made, and I'll explain when our information gets out and it's on and it's revealed that, the debt is fraud, And the debt doesn't go away because the actual injured people are the people of America who were securitized and monetized and actually backed up the credit, actually created the money. So the debt is owed to the American people. And whether it was based in fraud or not makes no difference because the American people are the ones that have been propping up our monetary system for over ninety years.
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That's very true. Okay? But the, they didn't know that they were the backers of that. They were victims of it in a sense. And so what these people did here's the people that really, are could get harmed are innocent investors that bought those bonds. Mom and pop, some guy over in Europe, whatever. Right? Well, on those bonds, on that birth certificate, there's a number called a CUSIP number, c u s I p. And, evidently, that's the number that they attach to the process where they can because those bonds are sold internationally. They're traded, sold, everything else. So the CUSIP number is how you go back and register the bondholder so they can give the proper bondholder the proper coupon payment.
So you could this theoretical, Paul. If we could ever get into the bowels of the treasury and find out, let's say, the Federal Reserve owns 50% of the bonds, well, we just don't pay them. But the mom and pop people that did went in innocent with eyes open and got defrauded, we do pay them. So there is a way, at least potentially theoretically to deal with that down the line.
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Yeah. Mark, with this.
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Yes. Comment? Oh, go ahead. Yeah. Hold on, Julie. Just let Paul finish.
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That doesn't, that doesn't make allowances for the reparations
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due to the actual people that created it. No. No. We're gonna try you know, theoretically, again, we're gonna go after them and see if we can strip some of their fortunes that they've all gay, gained and on all this fraud lies, sealing the Wall Street, all that crap. Now that that's theoretical. K? Just telling you. And I like to bring up that reparations. Lord, y'all listening? Reparations? You know, you you talked about it with us. Well, how about reparations for us from the people that have enslaved us for ninety four years? How about that? Babylonian captivity, ninety four years this spring, 03/09/1933.
Ninety four years, Julie. Julie. Ninety four. Are you isn't it long enough? Isn't ninety four long enough?
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I would think. Yep. I'll comment.
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Yes, ma'am. Go ahead, Julie.
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What about I think the remedy is the only article three constitutional court in the entire United States, which is the Court of International Trade located in New York City. And since our securities are traded internationally, that would directly involve them. And I think that could potentially be a remedy.
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Could be. We got a lot of people to get and stuff to get organized first before we start attacking that. Those are theoretical things that I've just thought about over the years.
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Mark, get this. Well, I, I printed out I printed out over 685 pages yesterday off of various government websites, about all of our securities about all of our securities and everything, including
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Yes. I'm just absolutely shocked after I read what I read yesterday and the rabbit hole I went down yesterday. Oh, I'm sure. I'm sure it's just that you get deeper and deeper down these layers has gotta be shocking. You're shocking. I got shocking for you, Mark. Okay. Guy in Portland is sitting there on a bench. Black guy comes after him with a knife. Open. His attorney said he wanted to trade a knife for cigarettes. Sure. Or see if the guy had a cigarette. Right. Right. Well, he ends up approaching him, and he ends up stabbing him.
And after the stabbing, evidently not fatally, after the stabbing, the guy that just got stabbed starts hailing expletive deletives at him, including the n word. Evidently, he fit the n word. Yep. So they went to trial. When they found out that he had slurred him after the stabbing, they released the guy and dropped the charges.
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Oh my, after the fact, the guy Yes. The guy gets stabbed first. The crime has already been committed. Correct. But because it cursed him out, called him the n word, they go, well
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Yep. Jury dropped all the charges.
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Oh, that that's why I never use a drew.
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I I don't believe So, Oliver, this is why we wanna keep you out of these Babylonian situations.
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Go ahead, Mark. I stepped on you. Well, you know, Roger wants you around because he can yell out from time to time, ollie ollie oxen free.
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Okay. This this is a rough You caught me with a mouthful of my drink, man. I just always wanna call somebody Ali. You know? Like, what was the old guys in the thirties? Oliver and whatever his name was. That's right, Ali.
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Oliver and Adi. Who,
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Lisa? There we go. Laurel and Hardy. Yeah. There you go. Okay. We got what going on, Mark?
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I got some background noise going on. Echo.
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Okay. Can somebody who's got got their mute open and you've gotten. We're gonna let Paul scout it now, and he's the
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He's It is from Holly.
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Oh, sorry. Oh, Holly?
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Okay. Oh, oh, sorry. Sorry. Excuse me.
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Yeah. That's okay. Yeah. Hi. No problem, man. It's just it distracts from, you know, things we're saying. So we try and keep that. Ollie, let's hear your story, man. Could we? We just asked him to mute himself. Now you're asking him to explain. Well, Ally, he came to the front. I wanna hear a story. We can't ever get to it. Yeah. Yeah. Right here. Right here, sir. Right here, sir. Okay. Yeah. Ollie, can we hear your story? How long you've been in The States now?
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Oh, well, I've been I've been in The States, like, twenty five years.
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Oh, okay. Cool.
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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Long time.
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You stumbled into the status change movement, let's call it. Right?
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Yeah.
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How'd how'd that happen?
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Okay. Well, I think it was around the same time. I I just seen some videos of David Strait on YouTube, some of the stuff he said and and some of the, you know, some of the conferences. There was some, you know, advertising. Like, he he never really comes up this far. He usually stays around the South. I don't think he comes up this far to New York or whatever he's like that. Although, maybe he has, maybe Pennsylvania or somewhere. But then actually, I think he has gone to Pennsylvania. Yeah. But, he came up here, and, I also, there's a fellow called Brandon Joe Williams, which is good as well. I don't know if you've ever heard of him. There's a million people. What?
I've heard of him. Joe Joe Lastica. He's a good guy too. Oh, Lester. Another part. He's one of he's one of our folks. Joe is. Oh, is he he's a great guy. Joe's one of the best. That was fantastic. I I don't know personally. I I don't I think I chatted with him once briefly. And there's another guy called, Hauser, Christopher Hauser. Do you ever hear of him?
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I have not.
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Christopher Hauser. He's an older guy. But he he he does the the habeas corpus thing, you know, all that kind of stuff. He does that kind of thing. For people who, he he actually helps a lot of poor people, you know, switch it. The, 10 w 10 the the form for buying a car or paying rent, people are very poor in them. One zero nine a four, whatever, stuff like that. Maybe I used the number on there. Yeah. Yeah. That's how I stumbled on it. I'd say about four years ago, something like that. Three three years ago, maybe. Yeah. Three years ago. Right. Right. I used the just just add was, I I used the, Brandon Joe Williams method to try and, change my status. And I used the big wolf the big wolf, is it's a he's a guy, online. He does he's on YouTube, the big bad wolf or something. Right. We've heard I used Yeah. We've heard of him. Yeah.
Yeah. I used his, because I needed, I needed something, like, to say because I wasn't born in this country and and and I tried their status. I I did have all the paperwork. I did everything right. And, you know, I got a regular passport, whatever. I mean, they were all at that time, they were talking about the five star and the four star, but I think Joe Lis Lustica came out of the video and he said that it doesn't really matter about the stars too much anymore. That was, like Right. You know,
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we've got an 1835 court case. Still good law on the website. And, the only thing that matters in this whole process is whatever paperwork is in the possession of the secretary of state, if admissible in a court of law, is considered the higher and better evidence. So whatever he's got paperwork wise in in his possession about you, that's what determines. So they did issue you a passport.
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They did issue me a passport. Yeah.
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Okay. What did Brandon Joe Williams stuff, if you could remember, what exactly was did you submit with a passport application? I'm assuming you submitted what he planned with the passport application. Right?
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Yeah. Yeah. No. No. No. I I, yeah. Yeah. No. I I'd have to look into it. I haven't I haven't here filed it away somewhere, but but I have the paperwork, still on the computer. I think I have it. Yeah. I've all I had to print stuff out and things like that. And, yeah. But I also, revoked my election or revocation of election. I had to do that before I did the passport thing
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and, revocation of election. That that was Do you mean with IRS? Are you talking about are you talking about with IRS?
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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I I I got a letter back from them, but it wasn't really, and then I called IRS about it, and they they didn't know end about revocational election. They said it was if you're a dead person, you're doing it for a dead someone that was belonging to you today. And and so, yeah, I mean, that was a couple years ago. I'm sure there's been recent developments in the whole process. So I I gave up on it then. I just thought, okay. I tried. It didn't work out. I mean, it was one of those things that helped me. So, you know Did you go back and, alter through your arrangement with your employer, or are you self employed? At that time, I didn't really because, I just didn't want I don't know. I I just didn't want the house to be a lawyer.
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I totally understand. And sometimes well, sometimes employers don't look. There's more scared of the damn IRS than you are. Okay? It's a paycheck. It's a business for them. Okay? And they're terrified of them. They're not gonna fight your battle for you. So did you go back subsequent years and apply for what they had withheld?
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No. No. No. I didn't. There's a guy called Robert McDonald. Do you ever hear of him?
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Robert McDonald. No.
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He he he's a guy from California, but he he has a he talks he he he was he guy back in the nineteen nineties, he had a couple of videos. Is it Richard Richard McDonald or Robert McDonald? Richard
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Richard McDonald. I'm sorry. Richard McDonald. I knew I knew I knew Richard. He went through the same course I did with my teachers. Yeah. An absolute great guy. 100%. Oh, he's fantastic. I've ever had. Just he's like a little jovial little leprechaun or something. He's just a wonderful guy to be around.
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Oh, an absolute
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gem. An absolute breath of fresh air to the world. Great. Great. Great. Great. 100%. We got somebody else on here that got his we got somebody here that got his law library, Oliver Chris, California. Yeah.
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Wow. Wow. Wow. You know? I I I you know what? I admire I admire people like you and Richard McDonald. You did this stuff without any Internet, you know? And and you had to, like, read an awful lot of stuff, you know? Take quite a lot of this information. Okay. That doesn't really matter much now, but I just to me, it shows because I see the effort you went into, you know?
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It's almost almost ruined my eyes.
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Doing I did. I
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Is that somebody trying to say something?
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Hello? Sorry. Go ahead. Yes.
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Okay. I thought somebody was trying to get in. So, so you filed, from that other guy's stuff. I Well, I I would like to know what's in it at some point. And so maybe I can
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he he this is I'm I'm not being I'm not being, offensive in any way to him if I send you because it's on his website for free, everything, Edward.
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Okay. You know? I can send it. Well, I Do you have a and he don't. Do you have an email?
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Do I? I can send Yes. Yeah. Yeah. I can send you an email. Yes.
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Well, I'll tell you what. I'd rather because of my eyes, I'd rather have you send it to Mark because he can read this a little bit better than I can. But we'll get to that. That's not something that needs to be done today. We don't usually Oliver go out and investigate other people's stuff, Antivan Wrights or David Strait. I know my stuff is accurate. So let me switch from you talking for a second. I'm gonna tell you what you're being presented with. Okay? Okay. What the the results here are the result of over the thesises and the facts are the result of over a hundred years of legal and historical research by three men.
Two of them were my teachers and the other one was me. And, one of my teachers was the law expert who had studied law his entire adult life just because he liked it. And but he didn't study like the current law. He went back to the old law. And what we found out is they've changed a lot of those things. Okay? And so that's why your judges and lawyers are so ignorant when you're using some of these terms. They've just never been exposed to this stuff before because they've been in control of the organization that controls America's colleges and law schools for a hundred years.
And there's no doubt they went in and altered the curriculum at those schools where they don't teach these things anymore. I could give you a specific example or two, but I won't at this point. But I stumbled into them in 1992 because they were totally focused on the tax issue. And that's where John, our the law guy found this revocation of election, regulations. And they're in the code of federal regulations 26. And what it basically says is if you change your status, you can go back for three years and request that three years that you paid out when you were under another status. And they built a company off of that where they would pay people to go through this wonderful thirty hour course, a lot of a lot of heavy law stuff.
And then at the end of the course, we would file three years back. And, the first few people that did it got back pretty good sized checks. And when the IRS figured what was going on, they just shut that gate. By the time I got in there, I was still at the front end of the six months they taught. And, by the time I got in there, I got a $3,500 frivolous filing penalties, which turned into $35,000 they stole when I sold my house, by the way. But anyway, so that's where we come from. And there's a little bit of of of difference here when you say from these other people revocation of election. I think people are thinking that's when you've notified the IRS that you file this paperwork.
Well, that's the status change to me. Okay? And you're just putting them on notice. And it's in those regulations, and I can't tell you which ones, where you could go back and file. Now we had us a guy that we were talking about it on the show here one day, and he goes and does it on his own, never even asked a question or anything. And he got back a real sizable amount of money. I mean, a lot for three years taxes. Okay? He was doing pretty well. And, and then he had to come back and give that back to him because of the situation he was in, and without getting into a long involved story. But that was when we started talking about it on the air.
Now Mark and Mark and I are working on this with folks, and and we had some success, but not the overall success that we were hoping for. And so we really don't delve into that anymore. It's just Mark's helping his parents. They're elderly. He doesn't have the time. I'm not gonna do it. So, and we weren't having that much success. So we've just kinda parked that up on the lesson learned shelf and go on about trying to show people how to get free of this thing. Okay? But I got you there. We've got I can totally back up everything I'm telling you. K? For example Yes. David Strait and these people taught you that we're under admiralty law, maritime law. Right?
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Yeah.
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Yeah. That's wrong. That's wrong. Admiralty law is a martial law of the sea. And that's the there's only you see, law is rights, duties, and remedies. Those three things. We were talking about this the other day. This is very important. Rights plus duties equal remedies. That's the formula that runs the world. R plus d equals r. Rights plus duties, because they're correlative, equal remedies. Well, that little remedy over on the right side is equal to both rights and duties on the left side of the equation sign. So what goes on here is the only remedy in admiralty law is prize, p r I z e.
I'm gonna have my flag. I'm gonna get next to you. I'm gonna pull it down and throw throw the Jolly Roger up, and I'm gonna get on your ship and kill as many of you and steal as much as I can get, and I'm gonna go away. And everything that I got is called prize. Well, see, they don't use prize. There's no procedure for prize except changing of the flags as you're conquering somebody. They don't what what do they use here? We use these things called lean, levy, garnishment, and seizure. You've heard of those. Right? Well, those those are in a category of remedies called self help remedies.
We and there's process that leads up to it, but it's an easy way of achieving remedy without having to go through a formal court process. Get on the document, wait eight months, get in front of a jury, do the trial, get a decision, take the jury, and go go register it and try and collect your your your car. Well, that's a long involved process. You could be out of the country and no telling where. So these are all from the Babylonian merchant code. We called it for thousands of years, the law merchant, and then we call it in The US, the uniform commercial code.
That's what we're under. Not admiralty, not maritime. See, these people don't understand the background of all this. They heard somebody say this along the line, and they just parrot it. Yeah. Because you don't know any different, you believe it. Well, it's not true.
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Yeah. It's just regurgitate nonsense, really. Right?
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So we will we will attempt to go in and get all that stuff out of your mind and replace it with real accurate information that you can absolutely depend on. Okay? Oliver, that'll be one of our promises to you. And, so that's just an example. And it's not, you know, it's, what what did Mark Twain say? It ain't what it's it ain't what I know that's killing me. It's what I know that ain't so. That's what we're talking about right here. K?
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Yeah. So,
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so anyway, it's it's not gonna happen.
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Go go ahead. His real name?
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Samuel Clemens.
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That's right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's funny. Yeah. That's right. Yeah. He lived up there a little bit north of you.
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So, anyway, that's what we're gonna do over a period of time. It's not gonna happen overnight, but you got all of the information that you need on the website. And if there's any questions or anything else is not covered there, you can't find it, we're here six days a week for a couple hours. K?
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Oh, that's great. That's great. That's great. And what? Well, yeah. Yeah. No. No. No. I I am I have been looking at your the website, and I've been looking as I said, I looked at, Against the Enemy, Trading with the Enemy. I watched that one that was on the website. Excellent. Excellent,
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work from doctor Schroeder.
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I can't believe the guy doing the video. He never flinched once in the video. He was so adamant and so he was so it's such conviction during that video. I mean, it it says, this
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yeah. And he's still with us, Oliver. He's still alive. Is he? Get get out of here. Are you serious? Yeah. No way. That's amazing. Yeah. We had a conversation with him about a year ago. I'd love to get him on the on the show here, but he's a veterinarian. I guess he's still working, has his own farm. Our buddy Joe knows him personally. That's how we got in touch with him. And, yeah, that was, a that was a hell of a project. It was the I remember it thirty years ago, and then it's just gotten, you know, thrown along the side of the road. We're taught it came up one day on the show, and we went in, got it. Paul, our buddy Paul here, our excellent technical guy went in and redid the audio track so it's more easily understood.
And, he lays a very important foundation for us because everything that our information's built on is built on that bankruptcy. Because that's when they changed the the forms of government. 03/09/1933, when Roosevelt took the gold and he replaced it when the banks reopened with paper. That's when they changed the the the system. Unbeknownst to you, when they reopened the banks with the new paper money, you didn't realize you were the collateral for it back then. So yep. And then, the and the other one I'd like for you to listen to particularly is that one that's on the same page there with doctor Schroeder, and it's called Dodge Truck Card.
And and I show you how they do it and enslave you in your mind and how to undo it. Very easy.
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What they're doing God's God's char God's char it's called, is it? Maybe I see it. It's called God's trump
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God's Trump card. Okay? So what they're doing I watch all of what they're doing. Oh, that would make Go. Okay. I'm sorry. I'm stepping on you. We got a little delay here in the audio. But what they're doing here, Oliver, and the rest of the folks pretty well understand this, is they go in with keywords, citizen of The United States, resident, money. There's a bunch of them. And they with Pavlovian conditioning, they replace the definition in your subconscious with a 180 degree opposite definition. So your subconscious controls 90% of your day, and 10% of your mind is your consciousness.
So when one of these words come up, your subconscious controls, and it's automatically giving you a false definition. And so when they ask you these questions, you say yes because you don't understand what they're asking or what they've done. So all you have to do now this is the remedy. All you have to do is identify these words, go back in and consciously replace the opposite definition with the real definition. Then your your your subconscious and your conscious are working together. That is empowering in itself. And every time you do that, you get a little slice of reality back. And pretty soon, you live in reality and not in this opposite world.
The first time that you were ever exposed to this, Oliver, was when you were read Alice in Wonderland. The whole thing's based it's based on Alice in Wonderland. If you go b s. If you go back and look at and read Alice, there's some extremely important dialogue in there, which no young person would ever understand, but it's being supplanted planted in your subconscious mind at that age. So here at the first of Alice in Wonderland, Alice is down on the, sloping hill, and she's being on a blanket. And her teacher's there, and they're having a school lesson. And Alice, like many schoolgirls, is daydreaming.
And at the top of the hill is a big tree with a branch, big branch that runs parallel to the ground. And so she daydreams herself up on that limb with her cat. Okay? And the dialogue is this. She says, if I had a world of my own, everything would be what it is because everything would be what it isn't. And then what it is, it wouldn't be. You see, Oliver?
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Yeah.
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So let's let's let's slow down. Let me slow down and go over that. If I had a world of my own, everything would be what it is because everything would be what it isn't, opposites. And then what it is, the opposite, it wouldn't be. You see, here's your opposites. Now, here's another one. A little later in Alice, she's having a conversation with Humpty Dumpty. And the I'll be a little bit liberal here. I'm gonna introduce a word into this. When I use a word, Humpty Dumpty said in a rather scornful tone. When I use the word resident, Humpty Dumpty said in a rather scornful tone, it means exactly what I say it means, no more, no less.
But the question is, said Alice, how can you make a word resident mean so many different things? The question is, said Humpty Dumpty, who's to be master? That's all. And that's what they're doing. That's what the Pharisees were doing against Jesus. They kept changing the rules. They kept changing the definitions. They're still doing it today. That's who we're fighting is the Pharisees from Jesus' time with a whole lot more skill at what they're doing and a lot of technology on their side they didn't have back then, but that's our enemy. So here's another thing.
Yes?
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No. No. Go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead.
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Okay. Now go in. If you want a further proof, go into search engine and put in Lady Rothschild's costume ball. Back in the seventies and the eighties, the the Rothschilds had a big costume ball and they show them in some of their costumes and the body of man that they were eating as cake and all kinds of this trash from them. But in one of the stories about it, Oliver, it says in the first paragraph, it says, Lady Rothschild was so clever. She had the invitations written backwards, so you'd have to read them by looking at them in a mirror. Opposites.
What was the original name of Alice in Wonderland? You remember? Through the looking glass. If you went through a mirror to the other side, you'd be in a world of opposites, wouldn't you?
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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
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Here's what their whole plan is built on this right here. It's the foundation of everything they do. Now here's the advantage that we have by knowing this. Is anytime we have a question about something, the first place you look is a 180 degrees in the opposite direction. And virtually every time you'll find the answer you're looking for. Every time. So all you're doing is just turning your world from upside down to right side up. And when you do that or in the process of it, it doesn't happen immediately. It's it's gonna take a little time with you. We gotta get some of this old stuff that doesn't apply that that these people have taught you, and we're gonna try and correct that for you. But we're gonna as our object of your initiative is we're gonna try and turn your world right side up, and you can forever live free and in reality. Does that sound good?
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Yeah. Yeah. No. It sounds good. It's it's it's it's a hell of an interesting topic. I mean, it's the ultimate topic that we all should know. You know? Yes. Well, one of our students, that same guy that sent those
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three years in, came on the show. I don't remember if we were having a private conversation or he's on the show, but he he says, Roger, your your message is the most important message in the world. And it is because what you don't understand yet, Oliver, is that they control us. They've made us slaves here. And in doing so, they can then have the original credit spout of the entire financial system. That's how important this is. It does two things for them. It gives them the original credit spout for the financial system. What do I mean by that? That we're we're we're in a system. We're born into it as serfs.
They generate a birth certificate, which has a dual use as a warehouse receipt, another commercial document. More back to the UCC. A warehouse receipt is a commercial document where the paper takes on the quality of the good, and the good takes on a shadowy existence. I e, you're down in New Orleans on the docks. You're not gonna schlep a 150 pound bale of cotton around the docks. Hey. You wanna buy a bale of cotton. You're gonna put it in a warehouse. They're gonna generate a piece of paper called the warehouse receipt, which now actually becomes the bale of cotton.
The bale of cotton sits in the warehouse. Oliver takes the piece of paper and walks around the wharf going, anybody wanna buy a bale of cotton? They buy it. You give them the warehouse receipt. They go back and collect in exchange for the cotton. That's what they're doing as a secondary use, we're pretty sure, of the birth certificate. They take that birth certificate then, and and we've got proof of this from the hospital, okay, that they take that then because it's got value, because they assign your life and whatever you can produce throughout your life through your labor of value. They take that birth certificate, and they go over to the bond market, which is 10 times larger than the stock market, and they attach it as collateral for the bond issues.
Now are isn't bond the root word of bondage? Yes. It is. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So that then your income tax goes to pay the coupons on the interest on the bonds. That's the system. That's why this tax thing is their weak link. We pull ourselves out of it. They can't do anything about it because we got their asses on the skewer, and we relieve ourselves from being attached to the fraudulent debt. That sound
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good? No. It does. It does. It it it it kinda ties you with that story you had yesterday. Well, not really, but about the Indian guy who wanted to vote, and he was a sovereign and he shouldn't vote. Right? Yeah. Elk. Elk v Welcomes. He was out of the system. He he was out of the system already.
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You know? He wasn't he was never yeah. He was never in the system. And besides, he wasn't a a black Negro who came off the plantation. Although, as you really get into this in-depth, everybody when you go back and read these court cases, even the ones who are immediately after the fourteenth amendment, etcetera, everyone refers to the fourteenth amendment as exclusively to blacks. It could not have been. And the reason for that is because it was a federal citizenship. There never been one before. In fact, the federal people that were born and raised in the District in Columbia and the territories, because there was no government over them officially, they were stateless.
Now you can't tell me that everybody that was born and raised in DC in the territories was a former black Negro slave. I'm not buying it. Okay? So there had to be some other different ethnicities and colors that were also affected by this and were probably considered black in the Jim Crow laws. But it couldn't have been exclusively blacks. And I've never heard anybody say that any of these court cases pontificate on it because the vast majority of the people that were affected by it were former black Negro slaves. Yeah. The Elk v Wilkins is an excellent case. There's two other ones that you will become familiar with. One in the 18 called Plessy, p l e s s y v Ferguson, an extremely important case you've never heard any other patriot researcher even mentioned because they don't understand what we understand.
And then another one about two years later in 1896 styled US versus Wong Kim Ark, a r k. Super important case. Has a lot of bearing on this. And it's in the dissent on that case in eighteen ninety six or eight where the head of the Supreme Court, Philip Fuller, and one of the great justices of our country, John Harlan, they dissented on that. And in that descent, they found the nugget. And the nugget is that nobody else understands is they've converted us into the feudal system. See, that's what David Strait and all these other people, they don't understand that. And when you understand that one fact, this is what my teacher understood so well.
When you understand the fact that it's the feudal system, it's called the English variety of slavery. Excuse me. The English variety of slavery. Because as Brent was saying yesterday, we talked about the Somerset case. The the fact that England's got what's called a free soil doctrine. Are you familiar with that?
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No. I wasn't I wasn't actually, familiar with oh, well, actually, you know, it's funny. Well, I give you just a little bit of information that that, when when when the queen visited Ireland, she didn't she she didn't step foot on on our side. She she she had a carpal underneath wherever she walked. You know? Yeah. Well So I don't know what I'd like to do with anything.
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Well, anyway, the English England has a tradition they call the free soil doctrine. In this case that illustrated, it was that case that,
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Brent That's an interesting one. I must look at that.
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It's called the Somerset case. Okay. Well, here's what happened. There was a guy from Virginia that had a slave, and he went to England with his slave. And the minute he hit England, his slave got rabid and even ran. And when they finally caught him, he said England's got a free soil doctrine, and I can't be a slave. I'm free. It went to court. That's called the Somerset doctrine. Okay? So there's never been a a slave born on English territory, supposedly. I think we blow that out of the water with this feudal thing. But the feudal system here's what happened. In October, you had Norman, William the Bastard, the Duke of Normandy, at the behest of the Jews in the Catholic church. He was related to Harold.
Harold had they were cousins. Okay? And so he had a legitimate right to the throne, and he went down there to the battle of, on the South Side. I can't remember what. Hastings. And you know that story?
[01:10:37] Unknown:
Well, some of the No. I I Well, I know this is me. But but but but but it's been a while since I looked into the Hastings area. You remember you remember about him they getting hit with an arrow? Did they teach you that? Hit with an arrow. Who who who got hit with an arrow? Alright. We get Norman,
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Duke of Normandy, the bastard, and his crew, and they're over there at Hastings, and they're fighting Harold and his bunch. And Harold and his bunch were actually kinda winning from what I can take. Yeah. Yeah. And William the the bastard, William the Conqueror, one of his arrow his his archers had one arrow left, and he shot it arbitrarily into the sky, and it came down in Harold's eye, dropped him on the spot. All of his troops freaked out and retreated and the world changed on one arrow Because nor but Duke of Normandy, he came in, took over Normandy, infused the feudal system from from Europe, where it had been very established. But see, in Europe, they had two types of serfs, an involuntary serf, much the kin to black slavery in our country, and voluntary serfs.
Involuntary serfs can come in and leave and whatever, whenever they want. It's a contract. Okay? And but when William the Conqueror came and conquered England, because of the free soil doctrine, they didn't bring in voluntary servitude with them. They only brought voluntary servitude, and that's called the English version of slavery, voluntary servitude. That's what we're in. It's the only type of slavery that's lawful by the constitution in two places. Doesn't come out and say it, but if you understand what's going on, it says for one thing, they can impair your ability to contract. Well, you selling yourself to somebody is a contract.
So they can't they can't in other words, they can't come take your rights away, but they can put you in a position where you can give them away. And that's what's happened. The other is the thirteenth amendment, which was written for the states to get rid of slavery. And it says neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, but it leaves out voluntary servitude. So there's two places in the constitution where voluntary servitude is lawful and legal, and it's got to be because in our world, everything for everybody has got to be voluntary.
That's why they've gone to all these lengths to turn everything around 180 degrees so they can ask you, Oliver, are you a citizen of The United States? Are you a resident? You don't understand what they're asking you, so you erroneously answer yes because you've been frauded, and then you sign something to verify it. So now they've not only got your voluntary nature, but they've got your consent to govern you in that capacity. It's all voluntary. We know the trick now. Take it away. Take away your consent. They can't stop it. So so the facts don't matter after that once you establish when you when you when that's established, that's it. It's kinda game over. Well, that is that is the fact. You've pulled yourself out from under the fourteenth amendment and civil rights given to you by man, and they've moved you moved yourself over to the original constitution and status, which was a state citizen, now called a national.
And you're under god given rights, capital r rights, capital r duties, and you're a state citizen called the national. And The silver stop the yeah. Go ahead. They they can't do a thing about it. We have taken the biggest, baddest sons of Satan that have ever walked the earth with more money and more influence than anybody ever before. And we put them in a corner, and we confronted them with this, and they stand mute, which means they consent.
[01:15:12] Unknown:
Yeah. They consent. Yeah. Yeah. Sure. Sure. Yeah.
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Yeah. So that's what we do. And that's why just a little spattering of some of the background on on the verifies all this. But I will tell you, you've stumbled into the mother lode, buddy. You hit the mother lode.
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And see, here's what they do.
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No. No. No. No. No. You you are the show, buddy. You are the show. Uh-huh. So they get us in this ownership condition. Now this goes back to things like the meaning of the word property. So when we say property, if I said, Oliver, you own your car. Right? You go, yes. Mine I've just paid it off. It's a great car. And I would say, is that your property? And you'd say, yes. And we'd all understand that conversation. Right? But that's not the legal conversation. That's not the definition of property once you step into court, or once you get confronted in a legal situation.
The property is a right, and the thing, car, is now called a thing. So the car is not your property. Your property is a right ownership in into the thing. So they've got a property right in us. Okay? That allows them to do that little birth certificate trick, attach it as collateral, and it also allows them because they've got an ownership right in you to build up administrative state and administrative agencies and control you through unelected bureaucrats that only interpret legislation. Now when you go through this, you relieve yourself of both of those. We pull you out of the IRS unless you just wanna pay taxes. If you wanna pay the thieves, go ahead. I might check you for fever. But, anyway, the other one is it because it's a property ownership, they can have all these agencies, over 300 of them up there that promulgate regulations, interpret legislation, and apply it and enforce it on you.
I want you to go through that with the exception of two very obscure sections of the Internal Revenue Code, which probably will never apply to most of us by far. With the exception of those two, there are no administrative agency in the federal government that has any authority over you anymore. Does that sound pretty good?
[01:17:49] Unknown:
Sounds amazing. I tried it a couple years ago. It didn't work. But I I mean, I'll I I'm willing to try it again again and again. Keep trying. Well,
[01:17:58] Unknown:
I'll tell you. Let me give you an example. Maybe somebody can point you to where it is. We've got a a a one of our gals. We got some real ferocious lionesses on here. K? I mean, the men mostly don't have any balls anymore, and the women are having to step up and do this. And we got some real good ones. K? And this was named Sarah. She had a rebellious daughter, and her whole story is about eighteen minutes. Somebody ferret it out for you or put it in the chat or something. She got her rebellious daughter released from CPS with a hospital administrator and three attorneys by simply putting the affidavit down and explaining it to them.
They said leave the room for five minutes. They came out and said you and your daughter are free to leave. So it might not have worked in your case because you came from dubious background of people that, in all honesty, Oliver, they just didn't understand what they were teaching you. K? Now we'll straighten that out. And part of this is to get you re empowered, and we're gonna get you re empowered with this knowledge and and understanding. And you're gonna be able to defend this position if it's ever challenged and show whoever is challenging it that they don't know what they're talking about and that you're a free man.
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How about that? That sounds amazing to me. I mean, I I do Well, let me do get
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you go ahead. Sorry. No. I was just gonna say I was gonna open up the phone. Julie, why don't you come on and tell Oliver a little bit about what your experience is in the last year? You still with us, Julie? They're by leaving and we got into this there there she is. Yeah. Here's Julie. She's just down the road from you outside of DC. Why don't you give Oliver a little background here, Julie? Where where are you, Oliver?
[01:19:54] Unknown:
Oh, I I'm well well, I'm just I I'm actually on the coast of New York City. I'm actually south of I I I mean, if I get the bus, it's only ten, fifteen minutes away from Times Square. So I'm virtually staying there. I'm in the metropolitan area, but I I love Philadelphia. Philadelphia is a great city. I go down there a lot, and I go down that way a lot. But but you you said you're in DC or somewhere. I know. Go ahead. That's what happened. Go ahead. Yeah. I know. I'm I'm swampland DC. Do I say salam alaikum? Oh, yeah. I don't know DC too well. It is beautiful. I've driven to it a few times. Beautiful city. I never been to the ghetto areas. They say that's not so pretty, but Yeah. Surrounding areas is beautiful.
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Julie Julie don't live in the ghetto. Her neighbor is a b Conan Bryant from the Supreme Court.
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Well well, obviously, Virginia as well is beautiful. Crystal City, and I I've driven all those areas, beautiful. Virginia is beautiful, and and it's one of the strongest accent I've ever heard in the South, and it's not that South.
[01:20:55] Unknown:
You know? Yeah. Well, you you came to the right place. I'm going on, one year from when I found Roger online. And so you're in the right community with like minded people,
[01:21:22] Unknown:
Robert McDonald.
[01:21:23] Unknown:
Oh, Robert McDonald. Yeah. Is he Yeah. You said he had a website. What's his website? I'm just curious.
[01:21:30] Unknown:
Well, I I I think he has a website. You know what? I I I I had it recently, but but but there's a guy that has a has a website in in his honor and post videos of old videos of Robert. But a lot of the stuff is on YouTube anyway. I mean Right. I've got a I I have a I have a couple of his books. He's got one called a state citizen manual or something. Yeah. I have his book. It's it's it's pretty amazing. He's a great guy. His videos are amazing. Very I I I That's true.
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He was If
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you go to me. Did you tell him about the matrix docs, Roger? The matrixdocs.com
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website has everything on it. Yes. I have. Yeah. I I Richard told me about that the other day, and I watched the video of it. Alright. The dealing with the enemy act or trading with the enemy act. Yes. I just watched that. I'm gonna watch more. Robert just recommended another video to watch, and I'll probably watch
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that maybe tomorrow. And at the bottom and at the bottom of the site, there's all these handbooks. And then if you go to, the actual docs.matrix.com, Paul has all of these amazing documents that you can search for and all these folders for anything you need.
[01:22:45] Unknown:
Oh, that's great. Good stuff. Good stuff.
[01:22:49] Unknown:
Julie, Richard Richard McDonald was in the classes that I went through when I go out to Vegas, and he and John knew each other. And this guy was one of the most jovial, fun to be around people that you've ever met in your whole life. He's just a joy. Okay? Yeah. He's not that he's not alive anymore? Pardon me? He's not alive anymore? No. He's he's dead, unfortunately. He's passed. I went and visited him in California. Yeah. I I visited him in California one time. And, you know, out there where they got valley, well, valley, and then you go over a hill and there's another valley of whatever. Well, he lived in that word that wooded area between the valleys. And he had a house and he wanted to build the law library.
And there was a really big, I don't know, hardwood tree of some sort right beside the house. So he built himself a circular law library around the tree. Really? Yeah. Yes. He did. It's true. That's a good idea. Heck of a guy. Circular law. Anyways Circular law. Like a there you go. You're Yeah. Hold on. Let's get Julie fixed up, and we'll open it up for everybody here. Julie, do you have anything else you wanna tell Oliver? Well, you're chipped. You're clipping. Okay. In that case, I will go on because we can't hear you. Gary, was that you wanting to say something?
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Yes. Richard McDonald's
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Montgomery website
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is educatedinlaw.org.
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Educatedinlaw.org?
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That's cool, I guess.
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Okay. You're clipping too, but you're up on the side of a mountain in Northwest Montana. Who else was trying to say something there who'd like to talk to Oliver? Nobody wants to talk to Oliver? Oliver, I don't know what to say. I'm kinda shocked. Anyway, you found the right place, and we'll grab your hand and, add you to the family. We're a family here. And, and and if you would care to be involved in our family, we'd love to have you. Okay? Yep.
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No. No. Definitely. Yeah. Yes to that. Yeah. Yeah. For sure. It's very interesting.
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So the big piece that everybody's missing is the feudal system. Because when you know it's the feudal system, you know that it's voluntary, and all you have to do is volunteer out. That's why they hide it so deeply. Now let me show you where they're hiding it. They hide it in the first third word of the fourteenth amendment, all persons born. And what they're doing, there's two ways to transfer hereditament to children. One is through parental blood It's called just San Gineas. And the other is called just Tiara. There's another name for it. And that means by the land. By the land. And so the feudal system is when that happened.
And so all you have to know is they're assigning you a status based on where you're born, not who your parents were. That's where all this is coming from. So once they get that under the camel's nose under the tent, well, they just run the whole rest of the feudal system in behind it. So that's the really most important thing to understand.
[01:26:42] Unknown:
Wow. Wow. That's that's huge.
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Yeah. It was it it it's world world changing. And see, it's through this mechanism where this is why they did it. So they can get a property right on us. And now we've got the world reserve currency, don't we? The dollar. Oh. Through us, they control the rest of the world with the dollar as the world reserve currency. So we literally in this condition are the linchpin for the whole scheme. That's why they're so scared of this. They can't do anything about it. It totally exposes them. It totally frees us, and it shows the world who they are if they care to look into it.
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Our
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Mark, let me let you in. I've been talking for a while.
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What was this educated in law website? I mean, I went to it, and it looks like you mentioned I didn't hear it alone. It's sir it's a guy named Richard McDonald. McDonald He's very good. Was
[01:27:50] Unknown:
he he he was a guy he's dead now. Unfortunately, he was one of the students when that I I met him when I went through John and Glenn's classes in Vegas. And, a lot of people knew he would. He had quite a reputation. He's just a great guy. And I guess that's his website. But he was totally focused on California state citizen. Muted.
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If I could interrupt for a moment. There is, I don't know if he's new or not, but there's there's a participant here Unmuted. Stand up, and he's that's who's causing the echo.
[01:28:26] Unknown:
Okay. Well, that's a couple times, and he keeps on muting. So I'm gonna say he he wants to chime in a lot. Okay. Well, who is that? Does he have a label up there or a phone number or something we can address?
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Lee.
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L l e e? Hey, Lee. Yes, sir. Hey, Lee. Now put your star six. Well, Lee, we're we're hailing everybody. Lee? Okay. Well, he must not wanna talk, so mute him back out. And if you wanna unmute and come forward, Lee, we wanna talk to you if you got a question or a comment. Otherwise, I'm a defer back to Mark here. Markster. Mark? Anybody there?
[01:29:23] Unknown:
Sorry about that. I I'm muted for a second. Yeah. I was just going over that educatedinlaw.org website, and it is just chock full of patriot mythology. Gold, French flag, buildings or ships. Yeah. I would not I would not recommend anybody go to that website.
[01:29:45] Unknown:
Well, I I Rhea's name just came up and and Oliver used it. Yes. Richard was back in the day, thirty years ago, when that was the information that was out there.
[01:29:56] Unknown:
Yeah. Well, what I'd like to reiterate, and I do this from time to time, and I think it's important for everybody to understand. One of the first, of Rogers students that I met here in Oklahoma City sat down first first time we talked for three hours, and I left with a headache. And I had to sit there and rebut all the David Strait stuff that they had learned. And and lots of people and I and I get it, you know, they're they're on the path for for searching for truth, but they get so indoctrinated with everybody else's materials that they they cling to it because they don't know any better.
And, you know, I left that whole patriot movement. I was just out. And it wasn't until, really divine intervention, I found found, Roger on RBN, Republic Broadcasting Network, in a time slot that I used to cohost with Ralph Winter Road from time to time. I cohosted with him for almost a year, and I stepped out of that. And, another listener, Chuck Ward, had been trying to tell me about Roger. And I was just like, yeah. Yeah. Another Patriot. Another Patriot. You know? For years.
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For years. About
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about about a year or two. Yeah. Yeah. About two years. And, you know, Chuck, he was like, Roger says it's not difficult. It should be easy. I'm like, Yeah. Another Patriot. Another Patriot. Yeah. Right. And so one evening, sitting at home Sunday evening, 5PM Central Time, And the little boy says, I wonder who took, Ralph's plays. Who took Ralph Winroad's radio show and RBN? And so I tuned in and here's Roger. And I'm like, I think this guy's on to something. And he has a daily show. I started listening to that. In about two weeks, the light bulb went on. Then we find out this is the guy that Chuck had been trying to tell me about.
And everything just clicked and and Roger has the receipts to everything that he that he teaches. You know, it's all backed up by law and which is a first. You know, it's a first for me. And so that's kind of how I found Roger. And then here, I don't know, a few months ago, maybe a year ago, you know, people like, are you familiar with this person's information, this person's information, and this person? They're all trying to compare Roger to these other people when these other people don't even have a clue what Roger's talking about and they have creatively looked at every which way they can to primarily get out of the IRS, get out of the tax system.
And Rogers laid it out very simply, but they keep hanging on to the gold French flag, the whole Admiralty Law thing. And I I'm telling you, if you could just let go of that and see, people have invested tons of time, energy, and money into these other patriot programs, and and they they just refuse to give it up. You don't have to have any of that stuff. You don't have to worry about, well, whether your name's in all capital letters or not. That's why I go by Mark all caps because I make fun of the whole notion that if my name's in all capital letters, some government has automatic jurisdiction over me. It's just not true.
So and most people don't even understand jurisdiction and what gives somebody jurisdiction over you. You know? So, anyway, I would I would really, you know, like to tell everybody, you know, like, we're we're talking about this Richard McDonald guy. Well, yeah, but it's it's all old information that doesn't hold water. It's all old information, you know. Even my mentor, Dan Meader, years ago who Roger's path crossed with him, and I think that was before Roger knew about the the passport and the affidavit. My mentor, Dan Meador, even wrote some, what I call them, memorandums of law and he mentioned the national.
Now this is in 2000, well prior to 2003, shortly there about 2000 and 2003, Dan had written about the national status but we had no clue how to officially declare that status or register that status with anybody. And so this is where Roger's information comes in. It all does so beautifully with the law.
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Let me tell you how they did that, Oliver. I figured it out finally. They take the concept of national state citizen, and they continually relabel it. I can take you over to title 42, United States code. That's civil rights code under fourteenth amendment and show you where it says the citizens of The United States are equal to all the privileges and immunities of the white citizens. Right there in The United States code, it says that. K?
[01:35:29] Unknown:
That's us. White citizens Where where is that where is that again? It says It's title four title title 42.
[01:35:37] Unknown:
Title 42. Section nineteen eighty three, I believe. It says it twice. They got two sections there, 86 maybe. But I believe it's nineteen eighty three, right in that area, and they say exactly what I just quoted to you. Now I can take you over to the internal revenue code in the regulations and show you where it's the same exact status, the white citizen over here, but now they call it a nonresident alien. Now everybody would know that a non resident alien is a white citizen, wouldn't you? K? So that's the whole that's where the whole IRS thing turns on is that one clause. It's 26 CFR 1.1 dash one parenthesis small a. And they hid National by calling it a nonresident alien.
Well, if you go back to the fourteenth amendment, if all persons born or naturalized in The United States, comma, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, comma, are citizens of The United States and the state wherein they reside or resident. So it's nonresident to the residency of the fourteenth amendment and alien from federal citizenship. That's how they're using it there. Well, I can take you over to another place. They call it a national. I can take you over and say where they call it a territorial citizen. I can show you all kinds of stuff, but that's the trick they use and why our community has never been able to nail this down. They're going off labels instead of understanding the underlying concepts.
That's why I teach concepts.
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Is this a question. Quick question. Is a state citizen and a national the same thing to you? Yes. Exactly.
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All they did was change the label. Now I'll show you where you can find that. The first time they put it in law was in a statutes at large called the Nationality Act of 1940. Right at the start of World War two, it's a long act, but right at the top, it says it says nationality act of 1940 right there in the big bold. And then there's about eight definitions underneath that. And the very first one, a, says a national has total allegiance to a small less state. So what's the big deal about that? Well, if you don't know it's the feudal system, you wouldn't know how jurisdiction originates.
Because jurisdiction comes from the feudal system. It's the relationship between a liege lord and a liege man. You know those movies where the the guy takes his fist and he taps on his armor on his chest and goes, yes, my liege. Yes, my liege. You've seen that? That's futile stuff. Okay? And leash, leash is the root word of allegiance. And the relationship that comes from feudalism that establishes jurisdiction is a reciprocal agreement. Whenever one word is, is in place, the other word automatically is in action. And that formula is allegiance for protection, protection for allegiance.
So that one sentence tells it all, but if you don't know all this other stuff, you don't understand it. Okay. National owes total allegiance. Well, now allegiance is there, so protection's automatically in there. To who? To a small s state. That's state citizen. So what's really happening is you're switching your allegiance and protection formula from the one you've been under with the federal government. See, they were giving you protection and you owe them allegiance. That's right after the civil war.
[01:39:37] Unknown:
All that stuff. Yeah. Right. So now
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now you're changing it from the federal government with your affidavit to the state. I'm a national, which means according to this very important little section of definition is you owe the state all your total allegiance. Well, because of the formula, that means the state owes you total protection. Oh, not the state agencies in bankruptcy where they've taken over the whole country, but the state now owes you protection. Supposedly, they should be protecting you from things like traffic tickets or any state agencies trying to ding you because you're not a resident anymore, all that stuff. But we haven't gotten that far in educating them yet. But that's what really is going on here.
But that one sentence, and it's repeated two or three times, I could tell you where, but that is a national host total allegiance to the smallest state. If you understand what I just explained to you, well, you know it's a state citizen. It couldn't be anything else.
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Yeah. Yeah.
[01:40:49] Unknown:
Oliver, have you seen the citizenship handbook that Devin wrote? No. If you if you'll go to nationalstatus.com nationalstatus.com, And in their search box, type in handbook. It'll take you right to Devin's, national citizenships handbook. And that's nationalstatus.com,
[01:41:16] Unknown:
man. I'm just writing it down right here. Nationalstatus..com. And and and what did you say the next name was? Okay.
[01:41:22] Unknown:
If if you go to the search box on that website, nationalstatus.com, go to the search box, and just type in handbooks. Type in handbook. Okay. All one word, handbook. And on the next page, results page, you should have a you should see a link to, and I'm just confirming this, so bear with me just a moment. I'll I'm I'm right there on their site now. And on the next page, oh my gosh. They got all kinds of handbooks now.
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Or you can just go to the matrix docs and go down to the download section, the citizenship handbook for nationals is where I came. To be that was the quickest way was the national status website. It was the quickest, easiest way to find that book. But,
[01:42:15] Unknown:
anyway, I I, I guess I digress because I don't see it anymore. Well, Devin's one of our students, Oliver.
[01:42:25] Unknown:
It's a computer guy that puts his handbook together, 71 pages. You can use it yourself. You could print it and hand it out to others. It's very detailed on this whole scheme. Was that somebody trying to say something there?
[01:42:39] Unknown:
It's that that book, the National Citizenship Handbook, is very step by step, starts you out on a little small baby step and starts working its way up until till when you get to the end. Somewhere in there, you're gonna have your moment, And it's it's all just it's such a good book. And I I use it for referencing all the time. Like, you know, if I'm like, okay. What was that case or what was this? I pull it up. I do a word search and boom. There it is. Okay. Yep. That's it. But it's it's it's such a fantastic reference book for the national status, for the national citizen.
[01:43:21] Unknown:
Well well well, listen. I just wanted to say I will look it up, but I know you you you you're totally against, Robert McDonald. I I only read his videos. I only watched his videos and I some of his stuff. I mean, he had stuff on his videos about, about the time that we have right now and and land patents.
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He'd a lot of interest in stuff. Honestly, he's not a bad guy. He's not a bad guy. No. No. No. He's not a bad guy at all. He was just running on the best we knew at the time. Okay? Yeah. So and we understand that. Okay? Now the, the other thing where I get cross with people is when, like, with David Strait, when he charged you $400 for that 31 page document that's got things like sovereign citizen in it. And we even had here, I'll give you an example straight from the passport office. Our people are always very antsy that they've got their status changed officially. They don't believe in the federal government, and everybody understands why.
So Danny, the New Yorker, or yeah. He moved down to Orlando, and he got real antsy. So he called the passport office, and and he left a message, and a real nice guy called him back. And he said, I just want to make sure I'm listed as a national. And so the guy at the passport office brings up his profile, and he goes, oh, yeah. Yeah. We got you here as a national. Remember, what's in possession of the paperwork of the secretary? So that's Yeah. That's you're golden right there. Okay. And then the guy goes he brings up his affidavit, our sample affidavit, and he goes starts reading it. He goes, wow. This is really good.
He said, we don't have any problem filing these one page documents, but it's those 31 page books that get shoved to the back of the desk. It's right out of his mouth. Okay. And and and then he said something very encouraging. He said, you know, we're getting so many of these things that they're having to hold extra classes for the employees on how to process them correctly.
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Okay. So that noise
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That's straight from the passport office, Oliver.
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Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like, another woman as well as Anna Van Reitz, she does a thing as well. Stay away from her.
[01:45:44] Unknown:
Stay away from Anna. Judge Anna is a judge in her own imaginary court, and she's so proficient that the IRS just levied and is seizing and selling $1,200,000 worth their property. So don't don't take any of her stuff on.
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There's another guy called David Robinson. Do you ever hear of him? I have not. This is just what I talked about.
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Everybody wants to see if Roger's material will compare to somebody else's.
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And and they don't know about Roger and it's really the other way around because No. I I I I'm not I'm not comparing it. I I I just mentioned all the names that all the boots. I have boots of David Robinson in the house here and and stuff like that. And I've read some of the stuff. I understand, but I understand.
[01:46:30] Unknown:
But, you're you're spinning your wheels. I promise you. All the other stuff. I know. Yeah. I know. I know. I know. You're right. You're right. You're right. So I have a question. Would I would just encourage you. Try to try to let go of that and focus on learning Rogers materials. Yep. And you will get free. These other people have all these all these crazy ways of you hey, Ollie. You ever seen those circus, circus shows where they had the tigers jumping through hoops of fire to go from one place to the next? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, all these other patriots, and I spell that p a y t r I o t s, pay tickets.
They have you jump through all kinds of hoops of fire, and if you try their method and it doesn't work out, they say, well, you must have done something wrong. Well, guess what? Well, the lender's material works. It's simple. Or I wouldn't be here. If it wasn't backed by law and didn't work simply as he says it does and as I say it does, I wouldn't be here. I just would not be here. And if you start asking wouldn't be here ninety years later, you know? Yeah. And you you start asking these other people, these other patriots, you know, where you you know, if you'll if you'll go back and and keep asking them where do you get the authority to do this, most of them can't answer that question.
For for one simple example, like the the all caps name, everybody cries. All that means you're a corporate entity. And when you press them and say, well, where did you get that? Guess where they got it from? It's that rumor, that that patriot mythology that if your name's in all capital letters, it means a corporation. They got it from a style book. A writing and a a federal style and writing book that says basically that if you see a name all spelled or spelled in all capital letters, it's a corporation. Well, that and that's only an indication. It's only an indication that it might be a corporation.
It doesn't automatically mean it's a corporation. So people really get things conflated and then the next thing you know, they run off telling other people, well did you know the gold French flag is is Admiralty Law? Let me give you another example. I wish I could find this again. But in the the Montana Freeman trial, there's about, I don't know, eight or nine guys that got arrested for the, the Montana Freeman. And when they were objecting and they were challenging jurisdiction in the federal court because they were trying to get them for, I think, like, some type of fraud, some type of financial fraud or something like that.
And so they were, I guess they tried them all together. And so the the Montana Freeman, whoever was ahead of that, they were challenging the Court's jurisdiction and they said, you know, the gold French flag means this is Admiralty Law and Admiralty Court. The judge wearing a black robe means this. And they had about, I don't know, nine or 10 different things that they're saying that this is what gives them jurisdiction over them or or why they don't have jurisdiction. Excuse me. So they're telling the court why they don't have jurisdiction over them as an individual.
And finally, they brought in a special judge and he said, you know, we really don't need to have these flags here. So he had them removed. Oh, you don't like this black robe? I don't like it either because it's hot and itchy. So he takes off his black robe and has it taken back to the office. And so he gives them every little thing they want and guess what? They went ahead and moved and convicted him. Right? So because none of that none of those physical things had anything to do with jurisdiction. The jurisdiction is based on the facts of the case and who's bringing those charges against them and whether they lawfully have a right to have jurisdiction over them or not.
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Yeah. So Guess where their jurisdictional statement is, Oliver, in any filings that they're going to give you and charge you with anything? In the very first paragraph. And it'll say Oliver from a resident of the state of New York. Residency. That's it. That's the most dangerous word in the whole deal because you don't understand how they're using it at all. Yep. And I'll prove it to you. I was gonna use another Samuel Clemens. We're talking about mister mister Twain earlier. This a good one. It really applies all the time. He's great. It's easier to fool a man.
It's easier to fool a man. Yeah. No. I don't think so. I don't know. It's easier to fool a man than to tell him he's been fooled. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's that's it. You noodle on that one for a while. Residency comes from ambassadorial law. If you dig deep enough, you'll find it. But they've hidden it quite well because they've assigned a geographical definition to it. So, it comes from ambassadorial law where we exchange ambassadors. Say, when we sign a treaty and exchange ambassadors with Ireland, your country, the Irish ambassador in DC is in residence.
So what does that mean? So if he comes over and and gets caught smuggling something at the airport, they won't charge him with a crime in The US because he's in residency. And in residency, the laws of Ireland would apply to him. So they'd put him on a plane and send him back to Ireland. So when they're asking you, are you a resident, it does not mean I live over there. It means which laws are you under? Comment, question, comment. Yeah. Tom, sorry, Paul. You've been trying to get in for minutes. Go ahead.
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Okay. My comment is, as a citizen of The United States under the fourteenth amendment to the constitution, it is presumed that you are a resident of Washington, DC, and you are foreign to your local state. Therefore, the state, it treats you as an enemy combatant because you're in, rebellion to your local state. Now my question is, did you watch the Star Wars movies, particularly the one I don't know. I think it might have been Empire Strikes Back when, Luke Skywalker was in the cave with Yoda. Did you watch that? Do you remember that?
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This is years that was well, how many was this the older one, was it?
[01:53:44] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. A long time ago. Long time ago. Like, when I was 10. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
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Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. That's the older one. Right? Yeah. Yeah. Alright. Well, what Yoda what did Yoda tell Luke Skywalker?
[01:53:57] Unknown:
He said, you must unlearn what you have learned. Oh, there you go. So anybody that's thinking that they wanna try and compare any of any of these these other patriot mythology and p a y triads and whatever, trying to compare their stuff with Roger's stuff. Once you get to Roger's stuff, as Yoda said, you must unlearn what you have learned. And some people have trouble with that. Some people will flush it like, yeah, like yesterday's news.
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So Well well,
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I I I I no. No. No. No. I I I actually I have Robert Spook. I read the first, five pages of it, but but I I I read the actual book. I didn't read the introduction yet. I just said I'd read the first five pages of this book, and it it it was great. It's very easy to read, actually. It's very reader friendly. You know?
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Good. A lot of people really praise that book. Now I wrote the manuscript that my teachers edited into the book. The reason the book is so excellent is because of my teacher, Glenn Amborn, who is a who's one of us he won a case at the Supreme Court of the US when he was in jail for another guy. Wow.
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Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow.
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That's impressive. Yep. Is that this whole story is an amazing story, man. And, I can just show you the points along the line where you you you gotta know it's a divine mission because these things are just divinely attached. I was in a bad automobile accident that I caused in Argentina. I killed six people, and I should have been killed in that too, honestly. But I had this message, and I had not gotten it out yet. And and and I was the only one in the world that understood it. Even my teachers didn't understand it when I first told them about it. And so, after that accident, when my eyes opened and I saw the scene, And I the first thought that hit my mind was, I I shouldn't have lived through this.
God has to have more work for me to do, and that's why we're here today. But that's happened a number of times through this whole process to the different people involved. You'll get more of the story as you hang around.
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What did you do you think you could
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Go ahead. Sorry.
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Go ahead. Do you think do you think do you think you need to spend more or spend money on marketing? Or or what what's the issue? This this movement should be the biggest of all the movements out there. Well, it's it's really strange. I agree with you. We don't spend any money on marketing. I'm just kind of consciously because it's been such
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tough sledding. I mean, I've been trying to get this across to people for fifteen years, man. I've seen all of the I've seen, the all the reactions, the gamut. Yeah. And what I've come to, I think, understand is, yes, it needs to be spread over a wide net, but it only reacts to a certain small percentage of people. And you can't go force this on people. They've got to come to it and wanna sit down and understand and learn all this stuff. And if you don't wanna do that, it's not for you because it's not a paper filing game. See? And, boy, Oliver, I wish I knew the answer. Here's what we're trying to do is make this grow like an like a network marketing, on, you know, person to person, basically, people to people that relate to each other and, grow a really firm foundation.
And then at some point, as things continue to get worse and all these people are still looking for answers, and we haven't been able to get to them yet, at some point, we're gonna get this message to, like, an Alex Jones audience. And when we do that, I believe we'll have enough people to really affect change. K? Remember, there's only 3% of our population wanted to fight old King George. The rest of them all wanted to beat Tories. K. Hold on just a second. They want to be what? They all want to be English. They want to be under King George. 3%.
You you probably don't know this, Oliver. 3% of the country wanted the revolution. It's always a small number of dedicated people that as Madison or Adam says, light brush fires in the minds of men. That's what we're doing. Okay? So anyway, we're about to end the show. Oliver, come back and spend as much time with us as you can or want to. We're a pretty good bunch. We we we love having you and your accent and your foreign aspect and showing the world. Even people like you and Alma that could never ever have achieved freedom in your lifetime, through this mechanism, we can reverse engineer it and let you allow to be free, buddy.
Alright. Thank you very much. Alright. Well, hold on. We're gonna cut off here with this. Now I know I know there are couple of gals that have a question, but we're right at the end. Wait just a second. I just wanted I just wanted to welcome,
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Oliver, and he's welcome to reach out at my Telegram, National Status Bureau. Yeah. And Richard has some really good information.
[01:59:33] Unknown:
Yep. Merck has got a Telegram group, Oliver, and with 500 plus people on it you can join. That's national Yep. Status, freedom, three separate words. That's the status. Freedom. Sure. I'll definitely be out there. Yep. Okay. Well, Merk will welcome you. And, we got another resource. We mentioned it. Dave and his wife, Kaye, have put up an exemplary website. She's the web person, and it's got attached to AI, And it'll help you write documents and all kinds of stuff they got on over there. And that's national status. We mentioned it a minute ago, .com or .info.
Either one of those, same thing. So we got Devin's handbook that was mentioned. There's another the a little try folder that you can print with with just bullet point information that Gary and Gina put together. There's a number of resources for you. But let's get you started off on the right path and get the right information and the right foundation. And you you obviously are attracted to the information, and it will fulfill your expectations. I don't know about much in this world that will fulfill expectations, but if you'll follow our directions here, this information will fulfill expectations and self empower you to where you ain't scared of one son of a bitch swinging dick that walks the face of the earth.
I don't care what their I don't care what Jew name they got. Man. Yeah. Now does anybody have something for Oliver?
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Just welcome to the Hello, Oliver.
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Yeah. Welcome aboard, Ar.
[02:01:20] Unknown:
Yeah. That's Mark. That's Mark.
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Mark. Okay, Mark.
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And people drift in and out of here. You know, sometimes the older folks come back, but generally, folks hang around. They get the understanding, and then they go on about their lives. We never hear anybody come back and go, man, this damn bad thing happened to me because of what you told me. We've never had that happen once. K?
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So Can I ask you who was the who was the gentleman that was here yesterday that that was talking about, religions? He was a great guy. I'd like to Brent.
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Brent. Brent. His name is Brent
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Winters.
[02:01:57] Unknown:
Brent. Brent. Brent. Yeah. Yeah. I know. He was great. Does does he is he on that national side of Freedom Auto?
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Well, no. He's got his own website and stuff, and his website is commonlawyer.com.
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Commonlawyer.com..com.
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He's on the air seven days a week, different and he is he is a natural resource, buddy. That guy is unbelievable.
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Interesting guy. Very interesting.
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Well, we've been we've been doing shows every Friday for about thirteen years now. So, he just had become such an important part of our show, and he just knows stuff. I've never heard anybody else knew that stuff.
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No. No. No. No. No. Yeah. Yeah. No.
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So we're just really privileged and honored to have him. He's our guide through. Because see, when you file this affidavit, and this should really matter to you, Oliver, What we're doing is we're moving over under our herettiment. You're part of that too. Irish is part of the Anglo Saxon kind of thing. You were still under a lot of those principles and concepts, weren't you?
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Well, to be honest, I don't know. I think I think Irish people originally were not considered white. I I know a lot of German people wouldn't concern but that was back in the day anyway.
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Uh-huh. Well, our our heretical our common here, and there's folks here that don't have those roots either, but this applies to you now that you've gone through this process. Of course. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You've you're moving over under the common law. They hate the common law. Our enemies hate the common law. In fact, my teacher, John Benson said, the battle we fight today is the battle that's been fought since the beginning of time. And that battle is Lex Rex or the law of the king versus nature, nature's God's law. And that's this battle and what you've done, they've hidden you from access to the common law of a lot of part because you've got a property right in you.
But now you're moving totally over under it. And the only way any of the merchant law stuff applies to you is if you've entered into a valid contract where that's included.
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Okay.
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Okay. Now I'm gonna go off and have a weekend. I've been talking to Ollie, mostly doing the talking here for a couple hours. Tickled to death to have you. Welcome to the family should you wanna be. And I believe you found a place where you can get all your questions answered honestly and factually.
[02:04:53] Unknown:
Yes? Yeah. Of course. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
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Yes. So go binge. There's tons of interviews on that website. Go binge. Because they're not all of them are the same. I use a different approach and whatnot with each one. And I just like that approach on the god's trump card because it shows you what they're doing to you and how you're doing it, and then I show you what they did with it. So I I thought it'd be more effective. Martin doesn't necessarily agree. He likes the other way. There's a number of different ways to approach it. But, boy, that understanding how they've entrapped you in your mind, because that's your ability to straighten yourself out by yourself. I find these words. Yeah. I put the right definition there. Boom. Everything's straight.
[02:05:43] Unknown:
Can can I ask you a question? Do you still vote?
[02:05:47] Unknown:
Oh, I haven't voted in twenty something years. And we talk about it, and all politics is local, and those local things do affect you where you live. And I would think some people would want to vote on that. Dave and Kaye, the ones that set up, nationalstatus.info, went and got registered in their county in Alabama as nationals to vote. Before that, it's only citizens of The United States. But they took the battle all the way to the head attorney in the secretary of state's office for the election, state Alabama, and he's the one that registered him as nationals.
And then they went back to the supervisor in their county, and they reregistered and attached their affidavit to the registration. So, yes, you can vote.
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No. No. No. It's okay. Yeah. Yeah. No. No. Yeah. It's getting very uninteresting to vote anymore anyway. The take the candidates are turning worse and worse every year every year. You know? Well, especially where you are.
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K? Yeah. So we'll see. Hopefully, that'll change. You know, I heard, who who was the Mille Lydell yesterday saying there are already a couple of states that have gotten talking about legislation, having paper ballots next year. So maybe that will continue to expand. Oh, yeah. Definitely. I hope so. Hope so. Yeah. Okay. So any anybody else got anything for me or for Oliver?
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Or, well, I'm sure some of the states I'm sure the states will continue the scamatic Hey, Dwayne. Things.
[02:07:29] Unknown:
Yeah, Roger. I've been listening to this for a little while. How y'all doing?
[02:07:34] Unknown:
I'm doing great, man. How are you guys still thinking about you?
[02:07:38] Unknown:
Oh, yeah, man. You know, we've got a new coach now for LSU. Of course I know.
[02:07:42] Unknown:
You know, it's so funny, Dwayne. I'll say this on the air. I've been thinking because it's been happening to me. You know, you're thinking about stuff and something will come in your mind that's bad or negative or something. I'll go, hey. It's alright. Lane Kiffin's our new coach.
[02:08:00] Unknown:
Oh, yeah. So but, you know, I first started getting into this, Patriot stuff probably back around 2007, 2008 when I was living in Las Vegas. And I came across you, and I and I have met many of the people that you all brought up earlier up earlier in the conversation today. I met you in about 2012, and I heard I don't know how I came across you, maybe on RBN or some place, but I I heard you talk, and it didn't normally, I don't spend money on much. It it's gotta be a bit, but I've finally decided to spend money and get your book. And it was maybe only a few months after I heard you really start to get into your description of how all this unfolded and the power of the affidavits and what have you.
I did not pull the trigger on becoming a national and submitting my affidavits to both the secretary of state of the federal secretary of state and all the local New Orleans police officials, sheriffs, DAs, prosecutors, the AG, who is now our governor. I didn't do that till early twenty twenty two, 2022. So ten years before I became convinced enough that it was okay to do this. It was imperative to do it, actually, to convert from a US citizen to a national. Fast forward to about six months ago, and I found myself at 03:00 in the morning on the side of a highway having been pulled over by a Saint Charles Parish sheriff who brought in two more sheriff's deputies arguing and they wanted to write me a ticket, which eventually they finally did. But I'm sitting there trying to teach these three sheriff's deputies at 03:00 in the morning on the side of a highway in an industrial area about the state citizen versus the US citizen, the national, the jurisdiction, trying to show them the paperwork.
They've got my passport card. They don't know what to do with me, but they finally let me go. It's but they did give me a ticket for no driver's license. God. I'm not a great story. At that point. You know? But and I'm doing the same thing to n o p or similar things to n o p d. And I tried to talk to multi probably a couple dozen n o p d guys around here about the they don't have jurisdiction over me. What are you doing? How you you know? And I I finally asked that a uniform cop, I said, well, why does nobody wanna wanna become, you know, at least learn about this?
And all he did was smile at me, like that slick smile. And when I finally be have I'm convinced that the willful ignorance is driven by the fact that if anybody that's a US citizen that is employed by the government or major corporations with licenses and stuff, they're not gonna surrender that. They make money. They have more if if all of a sudden they went to common law as a across the state and the county, the Paris County, the state and the country, their jobs would they would lose jobs because there wouldn't be near as much crime. And therefore, they don't want to they would prefer the willful ignorance instead of learning how this country was actually founded and correct the issues.
[02:11:37] Unknown:
I love you coming forward with this. I wanna ask you a question. How could it be revert back to common law when Louisiana doesn't have access to the common law? With exception of that, there was some case that some Supreme Court case, I forgot the circumstances. I think it had to do with oh, what's the prison down there? It's not Raiford. That's in Florida. A big Angola. Angola. It had to summon with Angola and the way they were treating prisoners. But Brent had brought that forward. But, anyway, I wanna use what you just said as an illustration to all the people. And, folks, mostly, you guys know it. But, boy, was this just exemplified if what you can do when you know and understand the information.
That was a great story, Dwayne.
[02:12:24] Unknown:
Well, it's it's the absolute truth. And and there was one day I had I came when I first got home, I was doing some work helping peep you know, some contractors grow their business. And I walked into a a hornet's nest of contractors screwing homeowners and a a a daughter and her mom. Anyway, long story short, I started laying the groundwork to entrap and then prosecute the the the crooked contractors. And I had to go to court a couple of years later. And, so I'm standing there. I they called me as a witness to testify for the the for the for the, for the mom and her daughter.
And, the the lady at the court puts the bible in front of me and says, raise your hand and swear you'd swear to tell the whole truth and nothing but the truth. And I looked at the judge, and I said, ma'am, you're asking me to swear on the very book that tells me not to swear. She looked up at me like and, you know,
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but it's the truth. How'd you resolve that? So she just said, resolve that. Could could
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all she did was she said, consider the witness sworn in. Because I said my yays will be yays. I said my yays will be yays and my nays will be nays. Will be nays. And that's when you know? And that's it. And I sat down and testified, and the lady and her mom won a million too. So I got the contractors. So Good. Yeah. Cool, man. Anyway, guys I hold it up. Going on down here. Got a question.
[02:14:02] Unknown:
Joan's got a question for you, I think. Was that right, Joan?
[02:14:06] Unknown:
Yes. Hey, Dwayne.
[02:14:07] Unknown:
What Hey, Joan.
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Hey. What did you do with that ticket?
[02:14:12] Unknown:
What what did you do? I paid it. I'm gonna go I'm gonna one day, I'm thinking about going back and getting the $300 from them. But I have to I'd have to go in and I I I just don't feel like dealing with Saint Charles Parish. Not for any reason, but I've got way bigger fish to fry on some other areas.
[02:14:29] Unknown:
Yep. The wise decision, Glasshopper. Pick your battles and and
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you know? So Yep.
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Alright.
[02:14:39] Unknown:
Cool. Joan, you're were you hoarse there? Are you alright? Yeah. I was hoarse there. Alright. I'm gonna I'm gonna go back on mute. Thank y'all. Okay. Dwayne, thanks for coming by. It's always great to hear that New Orleans accent, man. And, I'm so tickled about Lane Kiffin. Hey. I I really man, there I think he's a perfect fit for Baton Rouge, and I think he will do really well there. So we'll see. Alright. Who else? Roger? So by just yes, ma'am.
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It's Annie.
[02:15:17] Unknown:
Hey, Annie.
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Hey.
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I wouldn't get that.
[02:15:25] Unknown:
Oh, I can't I can't understand you, dear. Talk right in the microphone.
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Be great up. If I would
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if I would
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Yes. Yes. Quito.
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Some great places to,
[02:15:42] Unknown:
some good places to stay that I could snuck out? We let me ask you a question. Would if I could put you in a place just like a bed and breakfast that has a a million dollar view for $20 a night. Would that agree with you when you got breakfast too? Absolutely. Yep. Alright. Well, I think we can handle that. You let me know, and I'll arrange it for you. Stunning. Okay. Stunning view.
[02:16:06] Unknown:
Would I get in touch with you through Mirko?
[02:16:11] Unknown:
Yeah. Just want you to shoot me an email, Annie.
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Radioranch,nospace,@mail.com.
[02:16:21] Unknown:
Radio ranch at not not Gmail, just mail, m a I l dot com. And we can handle it through there. Okay?
[02:16:30] Unknown:
Okay. Thanks very much.
[02:16:32] Unknown:
Well, you're welcome, dear. Boys, it a pretty day today. Yikes. So, anyway, anybody else? Lee's unmuted. That's that's where that background noise where that air noise came from. Well, Lee will try and hail you again. If you don't respond, there's not much I can do about it. So, Lee, if you wanna come forward, it's a good time right now. No, Lee. I don't think they're listening. Alright. Monday, I will see.
[02:17:02] Unknown:
Yes, ma'am? He said he he said he was having trouble with his mic for a phone.
[02:17:08] Unknown:
Okay. Well, we're sorry that's happening with you. And, but we're here six days a week, so we'll be back on Monday. See what next week brings. There's a lot of very important things hanging right now, both politically, geographically, geopolitically and all that stuff. But we're just out there trying to find people who wanna be free like ours. And if somebody wants to do that, we will bend over backwards to assist you in doing so. So, Paul, thanks for everything, buddy. And, we'll you, Russ. Hope it's not too cold, up there this weekend
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or anywhere else. And I'm I'm I'm hoping it's it's supposed to be near 30 today. Okay. So Alright. And my heater's on low, and I'm I'm up to 74 degrees in the house. So Kitty's not harassing me, you know, and chattering teeth or whatever. I do wanna make a make an announcement. There are two anonymous callers in the in the room, and I think I know who they are. They could either be Sherry or they could be Michael. Just in case one of them is Ferris, I wanna make sure that I categorically state for the record and give formal notice that, Ferris, if you aren't listening, you may listen, but you may not speak. That that is not not, there's not gonna be any reprieve. There's not gonna be any pardon. There's not gonna be any commuted sentence.
[02:18:37] Unknown:
You may listen. You may not speak. So did Trump. It it breaks my heart to have to endorse that. Farris. And we didn't do it. You did it. Okay? You're welcome to listen, but you're you you just disrupt everything. So, otherwise and then I was thinking, where's lady Linda been lately? We haven't seen seen her in quite a while. I hope she's alright. So, anyway, I'll look for y'all on Monday. Have a fabulous weekend. And Thank you, Ryan. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. You're welcome. You're welcome. Yeah. Laura, she has somebody say Roger was just in party. I think that was Oliver.
[02:19:14] Unknown:
Yeah. Thank you. Thank you, Roger. Thank you. Hey, Roger.
[02:19:18] Unknown:
Now can I identify as a white male?
[02:19:22] Unknown:
Yes.
[02:19:23] Unknown:
I'm just kidding. Right? You're welcome. That was a good one right here.
[02:19:29] Unknown:
I got I got in. I got in. Everybody else identify as day one. No? You need me to do that.
[02:19:37] Unknown:
Okay. Well, that that was one thing I wanted to mention to Oliver. You're true. You know? Yeah. One thing I wanted to mention to Oliver is, you know, with all the talk about slavery and all of that stuff in this country, the slaves that they never ever talked about were the Irish Irish slaves. The Irish Catholics were the literal red headed stepchildren of slavery. Redneck. Yes. They were redneck. They were always out in the fields. They were always less favored than the black slaves. The black slaves were, had positions of
[02:20:18] Unknown:
of, I'll tell Linda you were asking for her. I'll tell Linda you were asking about her. She doesn't wanna hear from you. She doesn't wanna hear from you. Her husband said you you weren't welcome in their house.
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Okay.
[02:20:35] Unknown:
Next time he speaks up, just be a little more so we can re
[02:20:39] Unknown:
Farris, I am not gonna have you coming on my radio. Farris is already gone. Off my good established audience. He's already gone. Alright. He's probably listening. God. No. I've never seen anything like this guy in all my years broadcasting, quite honestly. No.
[02:20:57] Unknown:
Anyway, I'm gonna go have a good day. Away from my victimhood.
[02:21:01] Unknown:
Hey, Shush. I said Sorry.
[02:21:03] Unknown:
Sorry, dude.
[02:21:05] Unknown:
Get back in that lane of cotton over there. I'll see y'all on Sunday.
[02:21:10] Unknown:
For the moderators for the moderators, Farrah speaks up. Just mute him because it doesn't make any difference to be telling him
[02:21:20] Unknown:
to stay away if he's already gone. He's just He can't hear me. He's just arrogant. Just mute him. I mean, I begged him to go find somebody else to listen to. Okay. We'll see y'all on Monday. Have a super duper good weekend, and, Oliver, go study. You're welcome, mate. I was there. Study.
[02:21:36] Unknown:
Thank you very much, sir.
[02:21:40] Unknown:
Yeah. He just did that just to fly in the face of what I said. So I think I'm gonna give him a call, and I'm going to ask him what the hell he what the hell he thought he was doing. Oh, you gave him too much importance, Paul, and you have to ignore his ass.
[02:22:24] Unknown:
Morning, folks.
[02:22:26] Unknown:
Morning. Morning, Frank.
[02:22:29] Unknown:
Frank from Colorado. I was trying to jump in and give, Roger an update, but I was finishing up breakfast. Guess we got another letter from the IRS. This makes about seven I've gotten from them. And I pop in every so often. I kinda keep people posted. And my question is this, among all the people that have gotten various IRL letter IRS letters, has anybody gotten one and it's named LT26? I've gotten the CPs several of those several sign ones, but this latest one is called an LT26. Just curious if anybody out there has gotten one of these yet.
[02:23:12] Unknown:
What locations
[02:23:13] Unknown:
from? This one no. No. Excuse me. This one now is from a new location from Fresno. All my correspondence the the last one that I got was a correspondence from Texas. It was a signed letter saying that somebody from the Kansas City office, which is where we're shipping your affidavit and all that, We'll get back to you in sixty days. Well, I got heard back from sixty days, but it wasn't the Kansas City office. It's the Fresno now. So my affidavit is all over the place on these IRS offices.
[02:23:47] Unknown:
Well, if it's from Ogden, you're in hot water.
[02:23:52] Unknown:
I've gotten several from Ogden before, and I've responded to them.
[02:23:56] Unknown:
Oh, well, I guess you aren't in hot water anymore.
[02:24:00] Unknown:
Well, I the whole thing about learning from this this group is respond to them back in a timely manner. This l t 26 that I got said something to the effect with those ten day notices that said, if you don't return in ten days, this and this could happen, etcetera, etcetera. I responded to him in ten days with the whole thing of saying, stop it. Here's my affidavit again. By the way, I've responded to this, this, this, and this signed by this, this, and this on these days. They're just shuffling it around. But I was just curious if anybody got a CP letter. If not, I'm just kinda keeping people informed, and I listen in on Saturdays. And I don't know if anybody's keeping track of who gets what from whom and whatnot, but feels like I'm getting the most out of anybody.
[02:24:55] Unknown:
I've gone I've gone back and forth with them now for about a year, and I got a I got a letter, two days ago. It's an LTR 86 C, and they say, we're sending your letter to our office. This is the first time this ever, happened this way, but we're sending your letter to our office at the address shown at the end of this letter letter because they're responsible for collecting the amount you owe on your account, and that's Ogden, Utah. And then they said, that office will contact you within sixty days. So so I I I sent my revocation of the election in about a month ago, and I've been free for about four years.
But, I'm going back and forth with them, and and I I don't know where this thing is going, but but it is what it is.
[02:25:50] Unknown:
I've been about four years similar timeline as you, and, I'm I'm wondering if all of these different letters at this time are just part of when a certain amount of people started doing this. Now I didn't do a revocation. I just mailed the IRS from the point I mailed it in. I'm done with it. I'm not going to go clawing back. That's just my comfort level. I don't want to open up that can of worms, but it's just interesting how you state you've been getting a lot of these where they say, yeah, I'll get to you in sixty days. I've got a collection of them now. So I mean, I'm not too concerned. I address them as they come in politely but forcefully, and it's at some point, I don't know when they're gonna get it or what their their endgame plan is.
[02:26:35] Unknown:
I, yeah, I think they'll find I mean, from what I've heard, Frank, I think they'll finally just give up give up. But, you know, I'll just keep some like like you. I'll just continue to be polite and, respond to them within a given time. And,
[02:26:58] Unknown:
yeah, I don't know what else to do to do. Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, just letting the group know. I I guess I think I'm up to, seven now letters of this form letters stuff. So, anyway, I yield. Thanks.
[02:27:13] Unknown:
If if you guys ever heard of Eustace Mullins, he filed a lawsuit for terrorism because he was terrified.
[02:27:30] Unknown:
Alright. That's another that's another can of worms. I don't wanna go down that route.
[02:27:41] Unknown:
Yeah. But You say in a in a joking mode, but it's it's for real. You are terrified on this hand.
[02:27:54] Unknown:
Hello? Can you hear me?
[02:27:56] Unknown:
Yes.
[02:27:58] Unknown:
Don't forget his wife, anti Semite. She's terrifying too. Yeah. We heard you.
[02:28:08] Unknown:
Okay. Finally got the mic working after the show's over. Is that Lee?
[02:28:15] Unknown:
He's always happy, Oh,
[02:28:18] Unknown:
yeah. I well, I had a couple questions. Maybe some of you guys can help me.
[02:28:25] Unknown:
Speak right into your mic. You're drifting a little bit.
[02:28:28] Unknown:
I've got a scriptural wife who I'm caretaking, and we had a couple people, sign up to do the caretaking, and they they all backed out. I've had a lot of concern in filling out the form to to do this, to get paid. They ask all kinds of questions, like one about they wanted to do a w nine, I believe, and they're asking all kinds of they want fingerprints and everything. There's somebody on this site that has actually done it. I wonder if you're listening, or is there anybody that that's gone through this can maybe guide me through that?
[02:29:23] Unknown:
I believe there's somebody here from Illinois that she take care of her daughter, but I haven't heard from her for a few days. Do you remember that lady's name, from Illinois?
[02:29:39] Unknown:
I Bruce is a caretaker also. If you remember, a lot of times pre show, he comes on Bruce, takes care of that lady.
[02:29:50] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. That too. Yeah. Yeah. I remember.
[02:29:54] Unknown:
I think her name, Bory, is Mary.
[02:30:00] Unknown:
Mary as in m?
[02:30:03] Unknown:
Yes. M a r y.
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K.
[02:30:08] Unknown:
But we haven't heard from her, you know, at least a month, seems like. And Mark.
[02:30:18] Unknown:
Yeah. Well, there's gaps. Mark. Yeah. But I don't think that Mark get paid for it. You know? It's people that get paid from the government for taking care of their own family member. You know? He's not
[02:30:30] Unknown:
Yeah. They got all kinds of hoops to jump through. I just didn't wanna get hung by one of the hoops. Yeah. They want fingerprints and all. Background check, the whole nine yards. And I I'm hesitant about doing it, but, I need I'm two quarters away from collecting retirement, and I'm 75. So I thought it would help. Is there any actually, I'm looking for work, like, work at home because, my wife takes a lot of lot of time. I can't leave the place. Does anyone know of any place that you can work at home that, that takes out Social Security?
[02:31:27] Unknown:
Silence make consent. No. I don't think that someone know. Maybe you can self report to Social Security.
[02:31:44] Unknown:
No. It I've I've gone through well, maybe there's a way, but I don't know about it. You you have to have, you know, the all your quarters in or they it's a no go. That's right.
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Okay.
[02:31:59] Unknown:
I just need to.
[02:32:02] Unknown:
Yeah. A lot of a lot of medical billing is done from home. I know several people that do medical billing from their home. That's their full time job. Also, a lot of insurance companies do things from, have people do things from home. So there's two avenues you can approach.
[02:32:24] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. There's just so many scams out there that, I don't even wanna try it unless I know somebody's actually done it.
[02:32:37] Unknown:
Hey. Another your local contact your local hospital, contact your local medical offices. Just start working the phone, and, hopefully, you'll hit pay dirt with one of them. I like I said, I do know people that their full time job is medical billing from home. That's how they make their money. That's how they get paid and so forth. Who you contact? I just gave you the best avenues to contact. Your local hospital contact, the personnel department, talk to them, human resources.
[02:33:15] Unknown:
Yeah.
[02:33:17] Unknown:
Okay. You're way behind on and you're 75 on your quarters.
[02:33:25] Unknown:
I didn't quite catch that.
[02:33:28] Unknown:
How are you so behind on your quarters at 75?
[02:33:35] Unknown:
Why haven't why haven't I got my quarters? Yeah. Well, I've been actually caretaking for the past twenty years and not getting paid for it because it's my family. I didn't wanna, you know, I just didn't wanna I felt that I just shouldn't get paid to take care of my own family. Before that, I I work on a farm, doing farm labor stuff, and I've just never have never had Social Security taken out.
[02:34:07] Unknown:
Wow.
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If I wait long enough, I won't have to worry about it. Another thing. I got a juror qualification notice. They want me to be a juror, and, I don't they used to send out a paper paper form. Now they want you to do it online. And I don't know what I don't know what to anticipate because I can't see the form. Has anybody, filled out a juror qualification notice on online that knows knows the ins and outs about it?
[02:34:49] Unknown:
I haven't done it online, but I've been on jury duty. Question. Do you wanna make a difference in someone's life or a bunch of people's lives, or do you not want to be involved?
[02:35:03] Unknown:
Well, yeah, that's the question I ask myself. Right now, I am so I'm swamped with things to do. I'm I I inherited a farm for my folks. I've got five houses to take care of and and a wife that's that needs my attention all the time. So it's something I'd like like to do, but I don't know if I can.
[02:35:29] Unknown:
Then fill out your jury certificate or paperwork and say that you can't be on a jury because of full time guardianship of wife and taking care of her health and so forth needs. That'll disqualify you from jury duty.
[02:35:43] Unknown:
Yeah. Well, I'm over 75 too, and that's that's another thing that disqualifies you. But you gotta fill it out anyway. If you don't fill it out, they drag you in the court. And so I just wanna avoid that too.
[02:35:57] Unknown:
Just fill it out, send it in, and it'll be as proofful as possible. It will not change your legal status as a national no matter how you answer the question. Well, they they do it online.
[02:36:08] Unknown:
That they sent me they sent me a thing in the mail to do it online.
[02:36:14] Unknown:
It's no different than the fines that is in a that you take in. Just do it, and that way you don't get in trouble, get drugged in court for not filling out the paperwork.
[02:36:25] Unknown:
Well, that's what I got to. I got a card in the mail. It sent me to a website and asked the question, are you a US citizen? I indicated no. And I've Answer no.
[02:36:39] Unknown:
Yeah. I didn't Comment.
[02:36:49] Unknown:
Go ahead.
[02:36:51] Unknown:
Yeah. I just I just wanted to let you know that in King County, Washington, when they send you a jury duty notice and you respond online, one of the qualifications, you have to be a US citizen. So you just check that I am not a US citizen, and then they say, we have recognized your response, and you are released from jury duty. I yield.
[02:37:14] Unknown:
That's what I did in Texas. Yeah. I was just wondering what kind of other questions they ask. You know? I just I'm trying to avoid the the legal traps. I just wonder if there's anything in there that could, bind me to their jurisdiction or whatever.
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No.
[02:37:35] Unknown:
Just fill it out and send it in. Don't be afraid of it. Well, yeah, I can't I can't send it in. I have to do it online. Do that. I go and talk to him personally, and that's, you know, that's a pain too.
[02:37:53] Unknown:
I, though, went down there and banged on the doors and said I'm not that person and got relieved.
[02:38:01] Unknown:
That's true. You
[02:38:03] Unknown:
can always send an explanatory statement.
[02:38:07] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. I'll I'll I'll I'll open it up. It's like sort of Pandora's box. I haven't I've gone to the site and everything. They've got a they've got a juror ID number and all that. And so I'll probably just go on there. I just wanna know if there's any anything I need to watch out for online.
[02:38:36] Unknown:
This encourages you to make other people, American nationals.
[02:38:45] Unknown:
I wish everyone was. I used the term American National. I've never seen that in any court cases or anything. Is there a significance of saying American National over just plain National?
[02:39:11] Unknown:
Yeah. Probably just use National. Yeah. I guess it's my bad. My bad. Either one of them works. The American National
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is found in in the corporate documents.
[02:39:25] Unknown:
Okay. I've just never seen it.
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Yeah. In in one place,
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in
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a in the corporate documents, it's in one place from what I've read. But I guess if you're
[02:39:45] Unknown:
Roger is okay with that one.
[02:39:48] Unknown:
US title a. You'll see title a. You would USC title a. You're better off
[02:39:54] Unknown:
you're better off using the term Utah and Californian and then put the word national behind it.
[02:40:08] Unknown:
Yeah. I agree. I think the only time you'd use American nationals if you were in another country, if you're in Britain or something, and you could say I'm an American national. But outside of that, I agree. Just national.
[02:40:24] Unknown:
Just like they do. They say they're a German national or a Mexican national, Honduran
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national.
[02:40:42] Unknown:
I sent a letter in to the the courts. I got asked beyond jury duty. I sent a letter into that court just stating who I was and that, because I'm not a US citizen, I don't believe I would give a a fair judgment against that person because they're not they're not the same as me. We are not you know, we don't have the same political status.
[02:41:08] Unknown:
Jury appears. Exactly. Now has anyone, run-in that in court if they've gone in in a jury trial and challenged the whole the whole jury, the whole 24 or whatever they got up there, ask if if anyone is a national. If they're not a national, disqualify everyone.
[02:41:42] Unknown:
They only give you, certain number of strikes. You can't disqualify everyone on a jury. They only they only give you each side, like, three or four rights.
[02:42:00] Unknown:
They're liable to disqualify you. And I'd like to make a difference. I'm on a lot of There's a lot of people on juries that wanna hang someone just because they had an interaction crap.
[02:42:37] Unknown:
Or that ignorantly presume. Well, if the cops got him, he had to have been guilty.
[02:42:48] Unknown:
No. You can't eat it?
[02:42:52] Unknown:
Who made the medicaments? That were on
[02:42:54] Unknown:
the two idiots that were on my jury, they said, we're right wing Republican. And if you have any interaction with the police, then you're guilty. That was their stance. Everybody else thought differently.
[02:43:21] Unknown:
They were making a political statement. Idiots. Idiots. Oh, by the way, by the way, I would like to I would like to share a valuable piece of information with everybody. Hopefully, we'll be hopefully, this will will, suit you. I, my take is that no matter how bad a day you're having, listening to Indian Christmas music makes everything all better.
[02:44:10] Unknown:
Would that be the redskin Indian, or is that the Indian. Pakistani Indian
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or the Indian Indian Indian Indian. Indian. The Indian Indians. No matter how bad your day is going Just
[02:44:50] Unknown:
Ew.
[02:44:54] Unknown:
Ew. I love you, Joan.
[02:45:02] Unknown:
Ew. While they're sweating over in the in the pooja.
[02:45:10] Unknown:
Mhmm. Are we home? It's very hard to have a bad day when you are listening to Indian Christmas carols. Okay. Never mind.
[02:45:26] Unknown:
Only in America.
[02:45:28] Unknown:
Yes. Only in America. And somebody I don't know who it was, but somebody changed into Room 1 trying to escape it, but it was there too. Holy crap. Holy crapage. So where else do we wanna go before I take the showdown and wrap up the wrap up the archives for the week. Oliver, are you still there?
[02:46:01] Unknown:
I'd like to throw something in.
[02:46:05] Unknown:
Okay. Hang on just a second, Samuel. Oliver probably hung up. Let's see. Let me see if he looks like he is in the list. It does not look like he is in the list. Go ahead, Samuel.
[02:46:24] Unknown:
Yeah. For those of you who wanna read about evidences regarding the all caps name, get, an e version of, Melvin Stamper's book, JD, fruit from a poisonous tree, and go to the back of the book in the summary, and there's five pages, and all of that is about the proofs of that name. This is definitely not a common law name. It's not a Christian name. And if you answer to it, my opinion, like all this mail we get, etcetera, for even these things on caring for people, etcetera? I mean, you were immediately put in this dilemma. But I have two thoughts on the dilemma. I mean, if you're a state citizen and outside of it and you answer to that name, are you back in? Well, from what I understand about how we used to be prior to the fourteenth amendment, a person in this country could contract within and without the, the constitution and be fine.
You could do it at will. But, ultimately, I think we should make that claim in our notice of all these things that we feel are what we believe and have them respond if they are in disagreement or otherwise they're in agreement. And I think that's probably the best way to handle it.
[02:48:09] Unknown:
I can encapsulate everything you said with a very, very short subset of words that you actually said if you answer to it. They've created an entity that they represent using all caps. If you answer to it, then you're granting their jurisdiction. If you walked into a courtroom and the judge looked at you and said, are you Elmer Fudd? And you said yes, you would still be agreeing to his jurisdiction if you answer to it. Any question they give you that you answer to like a good little obedient servant, grants them jurisdiction. It has nothing to do with the all caps name.
It is simply an entity whether you are going to agree to be subject to it or not. That's the key. So those five pages could have very easily said if you agree to it, if you answer to it. It's not I I mean, I'm with Mark on this. It's not simply that they're all capital names or all capital letters. It's not simply. It's them asking you, are you this person? And you say, yes. You're screwed.
[02:49:37] Unknown:
Yeah. Unfortunately, they don't make it that simple. I think that you should do preemptive notices to that to these kinds of points so that you're clear and give them an opportunity to refute you. And if when they don't, then that gives you the ammunition that you need, when you come in contact with them against your will, that well, they've already agreed with your will. That's sort of what I'm saying. And I think it's a deadly mistake that we make in this group is that we don't respect it. I mean, they're not gonna be forthcoming in telling you about it anymore. They're they're gonna be forthcoming in telling you about the the fact that you had two different statuses and you had a choice.
They make a lot of money on that name.
[02:50:29] Unknown:
Of course they do. You know?
[02:50:31] Unknown:
Stamper calls it a trust, and he gets into the detail of why and how it's not a Christian name. And he cites Black's Law sixth edition, page 1,023 under name, what the definition is, and then later on, he cites it again in another, area where it's Christian name. I mean and you got Terry Lee as or or, Randy Lee as well doing that little ten minute duel with IRS court down in LA area where he points out that he's not that name. That's not his law. His law is the Bible, etcetera. And it gets dismissed for being the wrong person. A misnomer.
I mean, they re they don't make it easy, though, to find out, and it's also probably this vessel of The United States.
[02:51:43] Unknown:
But they didn't dismiss the case.
[02:51:48] Unknown:
No. They never He said next case. He he didn't have a a case to dismiss.
[02:51:54] Unknown:
So the case was still there. And if he at any point in the future ever identified himself as that name and somebody knew about that case, they would hang him with it.
[02:52:06] Unknown:
Well, that's a stretch, Paul. But, it's not a stretch.
[02:52:11] Unknown:
It's not a stretch. He said so himself. He said so himself that he was there, and the the case got pushed off. He walked away free. He came back into the courthouse for, like, a divorce hearing or something like that, and they nailed him for both of them.
[02:52:31] Unknown:
No. That's not true. That's a different person under a different situation where that happened.
[02:52:38] Unknown:
Okay. Well, he still said somebody said, I am not that person, And the next time he said he was that person, they nailed him. They locked him out. Not They dragged him into court, and they and they hung him. Not literally hanging him, but they hung him.
[02:52:59] Unknown:
Not Randy Lee. Is this a different person? It's in the book of the hundreds. That's mistakes that people make and pointing them out, what you do and what you don't do.
[02:53:23] Unknown:
Yeah. You don't ever, ever, ever walk into a court of law again. Don't walk into a government building
[02:53:35] Unknown:
and show I understand that courts of law. They're courts of equity, and
[02:53:40] Unknown:
and that name is Whatever. Whatever. Whatever.
[02:53:49] Unknown:
What happened? If Yes, Joan.
[02:53:51] Unknown:
If a national named Harry got a plea ticket traffic ticket, and they went to court. And the judge said, are you Harry such and such last name with a last name? And could that national could Harry the national say no? The, no. That's not me.
[02:54:25] Unknown:
Well, strictly according to people like Randy Lee, when you show up and you answer to the name that they call, they have jurisdiction. Because they're gonna call the name, so they consider you already under jurisdiction when you show up. Okay. So what if he just stays seated in his feet and does not get up? Well, the whole book of the hundreds ends up with the abatement process, Joan. You don't go there. Go. You serve them Right. With paperwork refuting all of their claims that are false.
[02:55:07] Unknown:
I was just wondering what would happen if, the judge said, are you Harry such and such? And Harry said no.
[02:55:15] Unknown:
I was just wondering According to Stamper, it's sort of up to the judge because the judge can do anything he wants as long as it doesn't disturb the peace.
[02:55:25] Unknown:
Okay. Thank you.
[02:55:29] Unknown:
So you're sort of at their mercy. I guess if you went in there and you're very kind and gentle and wise as serpent, as gentle as a dove, and you, complimented the judge for him out here as understanding, etcetera, he might be lenient, but that doesn't mean he has to be.
[02:55:51] Unknown:
Yeah. Who knows what a judge is gonna do?
[02:55:55] Unknown:
Yeah. Sampras says he can do anything he wants as long as he doesn't disturb the peace. So and it's definitely not in common law or the republic that name, and it's not Christian. For for those grounds alone, not being a Christian name, I wanna refute it because I am one, and I don't wanna renounce my Christianity to a system that I consider is run by Satan. And that's the reason they use that name is to renounce my Christianity. That's the way I look at it.
[02:57:01] Unknown:
They don't answer to that name.
[02:57:06] Unknown:
Yeah.
[02:57:08] Unknown:
And don't show up this way. Careful careful about and and try to under I mean, Mark says there's no evidence. Well, I just gave you place you can look. And by the way, Mark won't read Stamper's book because Stamper believes things that he doesn't believe, like, the girlfriend's flag, only he put Stamper points out that that was an order from Eisenhower, and it's in the national register.
[02:57:45] Unknown:
And then seeing fruit from a poisonous tree?
[02:57:49] Unknown:
Yeah. Pretty sure it's in there too. It's hard to sometimes keep everything straight, you know, and all the different things one reads.
[02:58:01] Unknown:
Right.
[02:58:02] Unknown:
I'm pretty pretty sure that's in there. As well as as I think it's in the book of the hundreds.
[02:58:13] Unknown:
Cool. Proovy. Okay. Alright. We're just about at 02:00. That's close enough. Let's, take this thing down for the day. The conference rooms will remain open. So if you wanna join us live, you can go to the matrixdocs.com and click on any of the free conference call links and actually join the after show discussion. As long as your name isn't Ferris, everybody's welcome. This is the Radio Ranch with Roger Sales, the Sabato edition. We'll be back Monday, Monday morning, 11AM to 1PM eastern, as we are six days a week, Monday through Saturday. Thank you so much for joining us today. We can't wait to see you back here again for the Radio Ranch with Roger Sales. Ciao.
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[02:59:29] Unknown:
Bye bye, boys. Have fun storming the castle.
Saturday kickoff, platforms, and hosts roll call
Distribution, censorship fears, and social media stance
Young pastor Joel, controversy, and culture war quips
Guest roundup and show banter: comedy, music, and regulars
Escalation rhetoric: civil conflict, exposure, and "slow coup"
CIA playbook, dividing factions, and military infiltration claims
Patrick Byrne, Smartmatic allegations, and global election meddling
Ukraine, Khazars narrative, and corruption talking points
Mike Lindell lawsuits and gubernatorial bid, redemption arc
Somali gangs in Minnesota, fraud figures, and scale of billions
Derivatives, metals talk, and junk silver as hedge
Oliver (Ollie) joins: Irish background and status change interest
National debt, dollar printing, and "debt is fraud" frame
Process claims: IRS, consent, and 15 years "no objections"
Patriot movement critiques: admiralty law, flags, and myths
Court of International Trade idea and shock at "securities" readings
Portland stabbing case outrage and jury anecdote
Audio housekeeping, then Oliver’s path: Strait, Williams, others
Passports, revocation of election attempts, and IRS responses
Teachers, CFR revocation rules, refunds, and cautionary tales
Core thesis: not admiralty but merchant law and UCC remedies
Language programming, Alice in Wonderland, and opposites motif
Birth certificates, bonds, and the taxation-bond coupon linkage
Key cases: Elk v. Wilkins, Plessy, Wong Kim Ark
Feudal system thesis: voluntary servitude and constitutional nooks
Consent, state citizenship (national), and "checkmate" posture
Administrative state limits claimed post-status change
Testimonial: CPS release via affidavit and empowerment pitch
Julie, resources, and MatrixDocs/nationalstatus sites
Remembering Richard McDonald and early patriot materials
Rejecting "patriot mythology" and how the assistant found Roger
Labels vs concepts: national, nonresident alien, territorial citizen
Nationality Act of 1940, allegiance-protection formula
Handbooks, step-by-step learning, and community guidance
Passport office anecdote and critique of other gurus
Montana Freemen story and jurisdiction vs symbols
Resident as jurisdictional hinge and ambassadorial law origin
Unlearn and relearn: Yoda quote and book recommendations
Host’s origin story, survival, and "divine mission" theme
Why growth is slow: network approach and critical mass hope
Welcome Oliver, community invites, and commonlawyer.com
Common law vs merchant law and moving jurisdictions
Voting as a national and local registration example
Caller Dwayne: traffic stop, court oath, and practical choices
Open lines: travel, community logistics, and tech issues
Aftershow: IRS letters, codes, and dealing with notices
Lee joins: caregiver issues, W-9 fears, and work-from-home tips
Jury duty forms, exemptions, and "US citizen" checkbox
Jury selection philosophies and civic impact debate
All caps name debate: books, abatement, and courtroom traps
Wrap-up: rooms stay open, schedule, and sign-off bumper
