In this lively Friday edition of Radio Ranch, I’m joined by co-host Brent Allen Winters and special guest Paul English for a sweeping conversation on juries, common law, and the foundations of liberty. We unpack the UK proposal to limit jury trials amid a massive case backlog, why due process and speedy justice are inseparable, and how trial by jury stands as the people’s final arbiter. Brent traces Magna Carta’s Chapter 39, the Free Soil doctrine, habeas corpus, and the indispensable role of the 12-person jury in our common law tradition, while Paul gives an on-the-ground view of free speech and legal shifts in England. We roam from Scalia and appellate myths to chivalry, William Marshal, the power of cross-examination, and the cultural roots that sustain self-government. Along the way, we touch on status, personal responsibility, the day-to-day courage it takes to speak truth, and why nations forget their story at their peril—all wrapped in listener questions and a surprise drop-in from our friend Oliver. Resources, live links, and listener access were shared during the show; catch the replay on our usual platforms and visit thematrixdocs.com and commonlawyer.com for more.
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Thing up on Pod Home, but it should let me, connect. Yes. It did. Alright. Here we go. Let's do a Radio Ranch something.
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Here we go, kids.
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Yeah. Better late than never.
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Well, Alvin, as would we, and we're gonna make another attempt out of here on the December 5, which means Brent Winters is along for the ride. I think I see that he showed up there a minute ago. Roger Sales and Brent Winters, your cohost here, and, it is the Radio Ranch, the label of our little two hour get together. Of course, Fridays are special because Brent's with us. And, Paul, could you be so generous as to, identify the people that help us extend our reach so we can give them proper credit and recognition?
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I can do that. The list is abbreviated. It's, short but distinguished. It is eurofolkradio.com. Thanks to pastor Eli James, Global Voice Radio Network. That's my pet project. We are on Rumble. A little last minute start, but rumble.globalvoiceradio.net is where you'll find us there. We're on radiosoapbox.com. Thanks to our buddy Paul English, who said he was really, really, really gonna try and show up today. So we should keep him live out for him in Zoom. Is that a threat? Is that a threat or a promise? Well, he showed up last week, but Brent was on such a roll, he didn't wanna interrupt. So he just kinda sat there and listened.
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But we're also I'm not feeling, by the way.
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Yes. We're all also on soapbox.tv or soapboxtv.net, I believe, and, our website is thematrixstocks.com, where you'll find links to free conference call to join us live on the show. Thank you so much, Raj. Good morning. I have to actually run back to Tractor Supply and pay for the propane I just got, so I will be stepping away for a few minutes. Okay. Alright. Hell, I hope nothing. Long johns on. Well well, well, it's it's actually above zero now, but it was 15 below overnight, and my propane tank ran out this morning. And my house was, like, 62 degrees, and the cat was going,
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warm me up. Right, jerk. Daddy, where's my sweater?
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Where's my heat? Where's my heat?
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Yeah. She doesn't want food anymore. She just wants to eat. Sweater. Oh, yeah. I can appreciate that. Okay. Well, go do about your your your business, and, hopefully, the store you gotta go to is not too far away.
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No. It's right next door. Oh, okay. Good. Well, that's okay then. Pretty pretty sure. Store, but my card didn't go through, and it was last minute. It was I was running late for the show. I said, dude, can I bring the card over in, like, fifteen minutes and pay it? And he said, yeah. No problem. Because he knows where I live. Where you live. Yeah. That's okay.
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Yeah. Alright, Paul. Well, then did you identify any folks or not? I not I everybody that needed to be identified was. I just identified. Okay. Well, that's how It's all good. Solution for this morning's, and there I'm surprised there weren't any more technical errors. They usually heap those on top of everything. Go get your business done so you can stay warm the rest of the day. And, hopefully, tonight, because I'm I would think it's gonna be about that cold tonight again. Yikes. I hope I never see 15 below again the rest of my life. So, anyway, Paul, thank you very much.
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Yes? Should be a little warmer tonight. It's supposed to be 30 tomorrow, but today is just gonna kick my butt. So I see. Okay.
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Well, we'll keep our, our, eye open for the Yorkshire Rose there when he shows up. Hopefully, he will. There we go. Haven't spoken with the boy in a while. I'd like to ask him a question on something I heard about yesterday. I think Brent, you're you're there. Right? Morning, Brent.
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Yes. I'm here.
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I got kind of a bombshell for you. You know, I'd like to ask Paul about it. I just heard it on a show yesterday. Some minister, I wish I knew which one, over there has eliminated jury trials.
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Oh,
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well, let's let's check it out. Did you look look it up? No. I didn't. I just heard the comment yesterday. It was on Infowars. They're usually very credible. And, no. I didn't look it up, but that was the story. And I don't know which minister did it, but, that would be a that would be a seminal event, wouldn't it?
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Oh. Oh, no. That's yeah, that'd be, that that would sweep into the dustbin of a few thousand years of history. Now let's see. Oh, here it is. The the fella is I'm looking. Yeah. I've got it right here. Right to jury trial in England and Wales to be restricted. And the the minister here, it looks like an African. He's not a he's not a brown man. He's a black man. Whoever he is, I don't keep up with that stuff. AP News, UK government plans to scrap some jury trials and attempt to clear a court backlog. You see? Oh. Here we are again. Necessity is the plea of every infringement of human liberty. We can't help it. We have to. The right let me read this. The right to jury trial will be pared paired back in Britain in an attempt to clear a backlog of cases clogging the justice system.
Secretary David Lammy said overload and delay has created emergency in our course at risk collapse of our justice system. UK has struggled to clear the backlog since COVID nineteen. The government says there are 80,000 cases waiting to be heard in criminal courts in England and Wales Wales. Under the changes, crimes will likely sentence with a likely sentence of three years or less will be tried for a judge alone. Now, here's the remedy to this, and you'll make more money. You become more wealthy if you have a backlog. We have a backlog here. Always have had. Of course. All you need to do is, create more positions for judges, pay them, and then have more courts and impanel more juries.
People say, oh, that's we're litigus. We don't know. That's not the answer. The answer is you'll you'll have more wealth if you provide if the government provides what they have always called justice. If they don't provide justice, everything will fall apart. People need closure on their disputes, and the only thing that's left if you don't have jury trials is bullets. What else is there? And that people will resort to violence. That's what happens anyway, but why make it worse? Yeah. So the courts, I can say that, having experienced having been a plaintiff, having been a defendant, and having represented both, there is no value that you can put on trial by jury.
We say having closure and speedy justice as we've always said, justice delayed is justice denied, which means resolution of a real case in controversy delayed is denial of justice. Mhmm. So we go into court now. I've experienced this all my life too, and you just drag on and on and on and on and on. And the courts let the lawyers drag on and on and on. Justice isn't quick. You know, the Bible says that, if justice isn't speedy, the wicked get wickeder. In other words, they think, well, nothing's gonna happen anyway. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. And this and it discourages those that are right headed on any given point. Thank you. You know? And it's not that we always get get the the jury or the judge always gets it right, but at least you got a shot in a common law like ours. Go ahead, Roger. Isn't that what we're dealing with right now? No question. No indictments. No nothing? Yeah. Did you Leticia James,
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got got, acquitted by the grand jury, by the way. And Yeah. And I just heard an attorney being interviewed by. She said, nope. They can't do anything about it. She won. Yeah. And all that does is embolden
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them. Okay. So we get I I get it. So we get the grand jury has acquitted this gal. Does that mean we need to scrap the grand jury? And the answer is no. As I just said a while ago, they don't always get it right, but at least you got a spot in America.
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I well I think you need a different venue than Virginia.
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Well, here and here's the other thing too. Justice is the result is the outworking of religious expression. Whatever the religious expression is, the critical mass of it in a country will be worked out in justice because right and wrong are a religious matter no matter where you go in the world and what country you're in. Right and wrong come from a law giver, a final arbiter of right and wrong in individual instances from whose decision there is no appeal. And in our common law tradition, thus the jury, down here on land. Down here on land, the one who has absolute and final unappealable authority in heaven and on earth has delegated to mankind in our common law. It's a Christian tradition, and the Bible backs it up too, and he has delegated to us the 12 man jury.
And, of course, the grand jury is a part of that tradition as well. He's delegated that to us. He said use it, go through the process. What is it that's bothering I'll tell you what's bothering these, judges in England or whoever thinks they're in charge of saying, well, it takes too long to impanel a jury. It costs money. We to follow due process and make sure that the right to remain silent is adhered to, that that, all of the processes, the right of a notice and a meaningful opportunity to be heard in order to do all that takes time, and we don't have enough judges to do it. That's right. You don't.
We would be better off spending half of our national budget. I'm going out on a limb here a little bit. But make sure that internally, people have a shot at justice, and the only way to do that is provide lots of judges. Here we are a country of pretty near 350,000,000 people. Mhmm. And when we broke from Britain, our our population was a little over 3,000,000 at the most. And we've had three Supreme Court justices when our country started. Now we have nine. Okay. That's good. Why is and are are those nine justices hearing every case that comes up to them? Oh, less than one half of one half of one yeah.
And so what do we need? We need more trial courts. That's the Supreme Court, really. That's where the jury make their decision. We need to use the jury more. We need more appellate courts to handle the load of mistakes, and we need the Supreme Court of the United States to sort out the inconsistencies among the courts. Once they've weighed in and they've given the courts below time, the Supreme Court to your state the same thing, give the different district courts and the appellate courts below time to weigh in on a particular issue. And then once they've weighed in and there's a split, then the Supreme Court has the option of coming in and settling the dispute. Now keep in mind that appeal is not a fundamental right. It never has been.
People think appeal to an appellate court is fundamental. It's not. Our courts have said that since the beginning of our country over and over and over. Why do they say that? They say that because the 12 man jury is final. That's why the 12 man jury is final. Our constitution of The United States says to the federal courts even says that in amendment seven. Facts as the jury decides them are final. That's it. And the facts are what drives our or what drive our drives our common law. The facts are what drives, singular, our common law, not the law. They repeat that. The facts drive our common law and our cases, not the law. We don't have lawsuits in America. That's a gross misnomer.
We have fact suits. We don't ask the jury what the law is. We ask them primarily what the facts are. And once they've got the facts, then they can bring in the verdict the way they want in the teeth of the law as the Supreme Court has said or otherwise. But don't get the idea. These are lawsuits. We're not fighting over the law. The jury has they'll figure that out on their own. We don't even need to talk about
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it. Can I add this? Is the way they've circumvented this? I think that's the word. Uh-huh. Is the jury supposed to decide the facts and the law, and they've got it where the judge issues in closing statements?
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Yeah. We've given you the facts. I'll give you the law. That there's a difference. I get your point, and I I agree with you. But I I often as here often, I disagree with the way it's expressed by the patriot community, and they're wrong the way they say that. It has always been for at least fifteen hundred years and probably further that the 12 man jury the 12 man jury is master of the facts. No question. Are they master of the law? If they wanna be If they wanna be, but they don't have to be. And the judges have always instructed the jury on the law. Always. That's nothing new. But that doesn't mean the jury doesn't have the option of disregarding instructions.
Then the next question comes, is the jury entitled to instructions saying that? They never have been entitled to instructions saying that they're masters of the law, but there have been pushes politically in America to get that in place. That's never been part of our common law tradition for this reason. The jury and the man on the jury, you take him as you get him. You don't once you get him, you're not allowed to instruct him about anything. That's our common law tradition. We take him for the what he is. He may be a man with a third grade education that's not brushed his teeth a day in his life. His breath stinks, and he's an alcoholic. But that that's the way we take him, and we we use him as is.
And what he decides is the facts. And if he doesn't like the way it's turning out, if he's got the coonies or if he thinks nobody's gonna tell him what to do, and in his heart of hearts, he believes he's right, he has a duty. That's why that's why I say the jury the jury, it's wrong to say it this way. The jury is a judge of the law. Are they? Yes. They are. But if they judge the facts right, we take the juryman the way he is. We don't need to worry about. What's our problem? Our problem is we're not awash anymore in a Christian tradition. That's our problem. That's why the jury doesn't work. Yeah. We're not a when we were awash in a Christian tradition, we were awash in our common law tradition when our country started. There's no question.
Blackstone's volumes sold by far and away, his volumes on the laws of England, four volumes, sold far and away more volumes in the American colonies than they'd of 3,000,000 people than they did in England of about 8,000,000 people. Why? Because the people in America were interested. That's why. How do we know that? We have the records of what from the printers in England of how many volumes were shipped to America. And not only that, we have extensive records on who bought them, who they were. Go to the book, excellence of the common law, and you can find those some of those statistics there. I have a section there on the the commentaries on the laws of England, and they were so powerful here. And people were so interested. That's why we did so well. That's why that was the power that drove us, that enabled us to separate from Britain. It was not by force of arms. Were did there have to be force of arms? Yes. But that's not what did it. The indispensable factor is we just weren't willing to change. We demanded our common law tradition, and we wanted to know more about it. We knew a lot because, you know, the common thing in our common law tradition among every militiamen, every man, is the twofold duty of the militiamen. Number one, he's obligated by law, not by debt, by law, a duty to keep and carry a gun.
That's our common law tradition. Number two, that's against enemies foreign. Number two, he's obligated by law when asked to sit on the jury. That's defense of the law of the land. Enemy is domestic. Defense of the law of the land, duty set on the jury. Defense of the land, duty, carry a loaded gun. That's the simplicity of government and our common law tradition, and that duty falls upon every militiamen, 20 years old and upward at common law, 21, just in case we make a mistake. The biblical standard is 20 years old and upward at common law. We make it 21 because we want to on the side of being more mature and not less. But the jury is fundamental to our common law tradition. It is the center, the pole star around but which all of our common law tradition revolves and which holds our common law tradition in orbit. And without our common law tradition, we don't have the jury. You don't have our common law tradition. You don't have the right the right to duty to carry a gun. You don't have our common law tradition. You don't have the right to remain silent, the freedom of speech, the freedom of assembly.
All of those things are part of our common law tradition. The right to choose who you want to marry, freedom to travel, that's all our common law tradition, and that all arises, by the way. Every one of those arise from the trust settlement that God settled with our grandpa and grandma, Adam and Eve, repeated to Abraham, Genesis twelve and fifteen, repeated to Isaac, repeated to his son, Jacob, repeated to the 12 sons of Jacob, the fathers of the 12 tribes, repeated to David, repeated to Solomon, right on through to the newer testament culminating in Jesus Christ, and he repeated it as well.
That trust settlement is the reason for our common law tradition, and our relationship with our maker, our his trust settlement defines that relationship. So coming back to the 12 man jury, and I'll quote Chesterton, that famous Aussie, and he was talking about when we want to I'll try to quote it close as I can. He was an essayist. He said, when we want to discover a new galaxy, we consult the experts. We want to discover a new element to be added to the periodical table periodic table, we consult the experts. When we want to catalog a library, we consult the experts.
When we want to decide who lives or dies in a murder case or a rape case, we need to grab 12 beep 12 men standing around and ask them, and we don't ask them if they're qualified at all. And the rest of the world thinks we're insane. Go to France and ask them if they don't think we're insane. Why don't you turn that over to the experts? And then Chesterton adds in passing, well, if I'm not mistaken, that's what Jesus Christ did with the most important question ever asked mankind. And the most important question ever asked mankind is, who is Jesus Christ?
And he impaneled 12 men to witness the evidence and deliver their verdict. Justice Scalia, I may I repeat these stories, but I maybe I said this last week. Justice Scalia, of course, he's gone now. He was getting some kind of a master's degree in history or something and some big highfalutin Ivy Tech University. Ivy Tech. No. I that's a that is a school. No. Ivy League Ivy League. Yeah. And, he went in for his oral exam, and one of the professors asked him, said, what's the most, important history, monumental history in man in the history of mankind? And he being young, he said he fumbled around, tried to think about what's the most important thing that ever happened, and he said something.
And, his questioner, his interrogator said, well, you got that one wrong. The most monumental event in the history of mankind, the incarnation of Jesus Christ. Of course, when that happens to you I've had that kind of thing happen to me and embarrassed my questions and made to look like a fool. But once that happens, you never forget it. Never. Yeah. And he he said I never forgot it. Have you had that happen, Roger? Oh, yes. Of course. Yeah. Me too. Yeah. Go ahead, Roger.
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Oh, I was just gonna say the country missus Scalia. The country what? Oh, missus. Our country missus, judge Scalia Yeah. Was murdered.
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Yeah. Yeah. Well, that's the way it is. If you're right, you likely will be murdered, or they'll try to ruin your influence or send you to jail. They have three options, and the method and the sequence is always the same. Ruin your reputation and influence, they indite you by a grand jury. And if that doesn't work, go ahead and prosecute you and send you to jail. If that doesn't work, then they'll kill you. Now justice Scalia's case, it was kinda hard to get him off the court. They tried all that. They couldn't find find anything wrong they could complain about. You know, when Dick Nixon became president, one of the first things he did was he said to his justice department, I want you to find something
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on Black and was it Douglas or Black? You know, Black and Douglas All black. Lawyer Black was interesting. He was head of the KKK he was head of the KKK in Tennessee.
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Yeah. Yeah. He these guys were appoint appointed, by the communist president, FDR. Insane. I mean, oh, he gets a pass. He appointed, president or a head president, state president of the Ku Klux Klan to be a Supreme Court justice. His name was Black, easy to rim easy to remember. Black kind of figures into the Ku Klux Klan. They didn't like those kind of people. But, pointed him as Supreme Court justice. No qualifications for such a thing. Just a guy. You know? Well, that's okay. And Black didn't do everything wrong, but I find it of great note. He that the left gets a pass on that kind of stuff. He did one thing real wrong. He took that sentence out of Thomas Jefferson's letter to his friends
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and stuck it in a in a decision in the separation of church and state. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Black and Douglass the guy that did that audience. This Black guy is the one that did that.
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Well, Black and Douglass, lawyers, they're gone now. But I remember when they were on the bench, and they were called the Bob C. Twins of the Supreme Court because they always seem to agree, with every opinion that came out. And, I forgot. Oh, I was gonna say about black. No. I don't know what I was gonna say. Well, it doesn't make any difference. I got plenty of other stuff to say.
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But, Roger, I'm a I'm a ask you a question. Okay. Go ahead. No. I'm just gonna say what an interesting way to open up the show and to hear that headline. I didn't research it. You immediately brought it up. And it was it wasn't totally true, but it wasn't totally false either. Whoever's the announcer, they're not gonna go into all that. But he goes, well, this minister over there has negated, jury trials. Well, there's 80,000 backup. I wonder how many of them are are Afghan rape trials.
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Well, you wonder yeah. That's right. But you wonder, when once a politician opens his mouth, was it 80,000 or 40,000? Who knows? And but the bottom line is he knows what he's doing, and he doesn't appreciate. He's not I'm looking at him. He doesn't look like he's an Englishman to me, but but I but I I don't know. I I'm saying You might speak with a Rhodesian accent. Yeah. Yeah. People in our common law country, lawyers and judges here too, no matter what color their skin is, they don't have any appreciation of our common law tradition, and they don't understand where it came from. They're not taught. Comparative law is not required in law schools anymore.
And, for some reason, I, by the providence of God, was introduced to the whole thing, and and I I think, I know. And, well, I've devoted my rest of my life to promoting the idea of the laws of nature and the laws of nature's God and this distinction between the law of the land, the law of the city, the civil law countries of the world, and that's every country in the world except a handful of common law countries. Those two traditions of religion law and government are the only options there are. And every man and and every woman and every nation on the faces of God's green earth is tending either toward the one or toward the other on that continuum between the two. We're either getting better or worse. Our common law tradition has made us has made us the most powerful engine of wealth and prosperity the world has known. England England was a just a little island over there.
About 50,000 or 50,000,000 people. I think they're up about 70,000,000 now. Before World War two, they were the powerhouse. And within a few short years, they're nothing. How does that happen? Well, I think that has something to do with ignoring their common law tradition, which is, by the way, a Christian tradition. It is the Christian tradition. There really isn't another one. No. There isn't. And, religion, law, and government are inseparable. They're inextricably bound by the creator himself. You say, well, but does that mean you you're out to have a Christian nation? The answer is yes, but not what you think. You see America, distinguished from England, is a Christian nation de facto.
A Christian nation in fact, not in law. There's no law says we have to be a Christian nation. We just are. England, is a Christian nation by law, and they aren't. The best way to have a Christian nation, and we proved it to the world, and we're we're the first nation in the history of the world to ever do that. We have proved to the world that a Christian nation, that's not a Christian nation by law, but a Christian nation just because that's the way it is. We didn't plan it out necessarily. That's where the power is. So I don't promote, Christian nation by law. No. No. It doesn't work. It doesn't work.
But a Christian nation, in fact, is the ruler of the world. And although England was a Christian nation by law, they were also for for, for centuries, a Christian nation, in fact, at the same time. That is true, and that explains their power. You know, they ruled what was it? I think when you added it all up, it was about a quarter of the Earth's surface. The the the British Empire was a quarter of the Earth's surface. Now when you boil it right down, why is that true? It's true as a practical matter. I said because they're a Christian nation in fact and in law. But you if you're a Christian nation on in only law, you haven't got Christianity. If if you're a Christian nation in fact, you may be a Christian nation in law. You may not be a Christian nation in law. But if you're a Christian nation in fact, you will rule the world. There's no question about that. We showed it. They showed it. Being a Christian nation in law, Armenia was a Christian was the first Christian Christian nation in law. Yes. Were they a Christian nation in fact? I I don't think they were so much, quite a bit.
They never amounted to much on the world stage. Does that mean is that the test? I'm not saying it is. I'm just saying I have evidence that a Christian nation, in fact, for all of our faults, and boy, do we have a lot of faults, and there never was a time in our history that our faults were not overwhelming. Evil things that happen and evil things we did as a nation and individuals within our nation. But the Bible says that the gospel of Jesus Christ is unconditional, and it covers a multitude. You know, over in Scotland, they have a sale a saying, and they say this, many a mickle makes no. Many a little, many a little makes a mickle, and many a mickle makes a muckle.
We have a muckle. We have had a muckle of bad things, but the gospel, not just any so called gospel. Now a lot of folk out there with Christian badges on their denomination that ain't Christian, a I n apostrophe t. They they ain't saints. They ain't the holy ones. They ain't the the elect of God. They don't promote the gospel. It's a false gospel as Paul the apostle said to the this is fascinating. You know, Paul the apostle wrote a letter to a enclave of Celts that lived in Asia Minor, and they were the Gauls. And they they call themselves the Galatians, the Celts.
Same people that settled the island of Britain. And to really dive into that short little epistle charged it, overcharged with emotion, Paul was. He was ticked. You You know, he had the same material in the book of Romans. The difference was the book of Romans is, an unpacking in all of its glory from an objective point of view written to Romans, people the Italian Christians of Rome, I call them, to people he had never met. So it's perfectly subjective explaining the gospel of Jesus Christ. But when he wrote to the Galatians, the material, the subject matter's the same, but he knew those guys, and he had met them. He's the one that introduced them to the gospel of Jesus Christ.
They were they were his barons. They were near and dear to him, and he wrote them that first that was the first epistle he wrote. And, boy, it's exciting reading. I recommend it to you to read, but the theme of it is why why have you abandoned the gospel of Jesus Christ for another so called gospel? See, here's what happened. And this is what happened to everything in the New Testament. It's always the same. The prototype of all false religion in the New Testament is Judaism, popularly and accurately called Babylonian Judaism.
And the the Judaizers, as the Bible calls them, had followed Paul everywhere where he went and tried to undo what he had done. If he delivered the gospel, they go in and try to undo it. And that's what happened in Galatians at the city of Galatia there in that enclave in Asia Minor of those Celts. They came in and tried to do it. And you can see here a lot of people have commented about this. You can see the fickleness of the personality and culture of the Celts in that book. I mean, in spades. Read it. Who had Paul says it just with exclamation point in the vocative in the Greek. Who hath bewitched you? The old King James King Jimmy's boy said, who hath bewitched you?
Well, you could say, who hath horn swoggled you? Who hath befuddled you? Who hath gobsmacked you into oblivion? Who what do you what do you guys thinking? You think that the gospel of Jesus Christ is trying to be a good little boy? Do you think it's a moral question? You gotta be good to to be a Christian? The answer is no. Well, if you aren't good as a Christian, you're gonna get slapped down like a redheaded stepchild. That's true too. And that's what Paul does to these Celts. Probably a lot of them are redheaded. He slapped them down like redheaded stepchildren. And, it's enjoyable reading to see somebody get it given to him, but he what he was ticked about was they had they had started with the gospel of Jesus Christ, which says that safety from hell comes by the new birth, not by keeping the law of god or being a good little boy. Christianity is not watch me.
Christianity is not a moral system. It's not its foundation, I should say, is not morality. Yeah. Its foundation is grace. Yeah. And the what people call morality, it will change your morality. Morality is not law. Morality is whatever the custom is at that time. It's really a mush word that doesn't mean anything, and you won't find it in the New Testament. What you find in the New Testament is law. What you find in the Old Testament is law, standards for God's people. Yes. Once the new birth has come, then you want the law of God. You want the 10 commandments. You want to please your father who is in heaven, and you will. It's not a matter I got to. No. You will. Just wait. And if you don't, God will slap you down. And he can be he can get pretty rough about it, by the way. People say to me, you mean if I if I'm a Christian and born from above, I can do anything I want. And the objective answer is, yes, you can. Who's to stop you.
Who's to stop you. I'll tell you who's to stop you. Well, I believe I can do that. Well, God will stop you if you're truly a Christian. You're truly born of the spirit. He'll stop you, and it won't be pleasant. So I tell people that have that point of view. I tell them, well, I wouldn't try it, but if you want to, go ahead. I've been taken to the woodshed before. I know what it's like. I don't wanna try it again. It it's not pleasant. I mean, it could really set you back. Well, that's
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what Paul wrote to the Galatians, and that's the message to us. Roger, go ahead. It's very similar to what we do here when we teach people that they change their status and they become free. And it's poignant conversation today because this common law is really what you're changing over to. And and and and I didn't at first. I knew John. My teacher was quite adept in it, and that's how Brent and I met. I was gonna get John and Brent together on a program over there at the micro effect on the common law because we need to know about this. We're moving over under it, and we don't know anything about it. Okay? But what you just said a second ago, let me see if I can get back my my mind on track, was that's what I tell folks here. And the example I was using just the other day is, okay.
If you really wanna change status and be this national character, what you're really doing is taking on the mantra of personal responsibility. K? And that's very important. So you wanna be free. That includes personal responsibility. That's part of the common law. You know, really, if you look at it in a big sense. But the we get these people that wanna press the envelope occasionally. And the example I was given was you wouldn't go get your national status and drive down Main Street at 80 miles an hour running red lights. That's just plain stupid to press the envelope like that. And and the the the there's a, there's a connectability there to what you were saying. You don't just go out. You really respect it the other way. You respect it of, hey. I'm we want other people to join us so we'll be stronger. Well, you do that by setting an example and blowing down Main Street at 80 plus miles an hour and running stop lights. Isn't it a good example?
He's not very damn smart either.
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I would ask people. I would ask people. Wait a minute. Wait. Hold on, Larry. One minute, and then I'll finish, then you're next. What's who was it, Roger? Larry. Okay, Larry. Give us just a second. I ask I would ask everyone out there, are you a citizen of The United States or a US national?
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Whichever way there's a better way to put it. Okay. Are you a citizen of The United States Yeah. Or are you a citizen of The United States Of America?
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Well, either way, what but this the point is a citizen of The United States I get it, Roger, what you're saying, but a citizen of The United States is the fourteenth amendment thing that you've talked about. Okay. So, and if you aren't a fourteenth amendment, whatever that animal is, that's what you are. And if you tell the truth and declare it if you tell the truth and declare it, then declare it by you file the affidavit or whatever you do. All you have to do is say the truth, and the truth will scatter the darkness and the light. You don't have to get belligerent about it. Don't get belligerent about it. Don't be running stoplights and saying you I I'd even say don't worry about the driver's license thing. If you say the truth, that's the power, friends, and there is no greater power. We've come to understand,
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and right along what you're saying right here, when you become a nationalist is when you make up your mind to be. All the rest is the formality with the with the the authorities to let them know that you've made that decision so they recognize it. K? When I when you make up your mind to be free, you can be free at that moment.
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Is Larry still there? I'm sorry, Rodney. You go ahead. I don't wanna Well, I was just gonna say that's when freedom comes. You know? The rest is just,
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mopping it up and making it official. Larry, how you doing this morning? He's in Jacksonville, by the way. Larry, I'll bet it wasn't minus 15 in Jacksonville last night.
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No. No. I'm I'm in a t shirt right now. It's beautiful out. It's a little cloudy, but it's gonna clear up. So never did like met everyone. Yep. It wasn't that cold out either last night. It was like having air conditioning outside. So Yeah. Yeah. From Pennsylvania
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for sure.
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Yep. A question for you, Roger, and a question for Brent. You talked about Scalia. You believe he was murdered. I, was just looking at it on the Internet, and they're saying that he died of a heart attack after a hunting trip. He died in his sleep at his ranch, I believe, in 2016. And I was wondering, like, what you heard about that. And then Well, then the question I have for Brent is let me just say this because I yeah. And then for Brent, he talked about de facto. Well, what's going around the Patriot community and what has been going around for years is this idea that the state of California if you say the state of California, for example, that's the de facto, state. And then if you say California's small s state, that that's referred to as the de jure state, And yet in the first California constitution, they they call it the state of California. Matter of fact, the second, constitution of the state of California, the I believe it's the 1879 version, be that which, was written after they became a state, like in a part of the union, they also referred to themselves as the state of California. So they're the people in the state of California were referring to themselves as the state of California before they entered the union and after they entered the union. And yet, you know, and that's and I've seen that common phraseology throughout many constitutions, which I have read. They like, if you look up other cons state state constitutions, you'll see them refer to, their cons the or to their state as the state of whatever.
And so what has been going around the patriot community, I know Brent probably has heard this, and he can maybe comment make a comment about it. But, you know, like I said, they refer to that as a de facto as if it's something bad, and you wanna be a part of the de jure because that's the good that's the good thing. So that would be California state. So if he can give me his thoughts on that.
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Roger, you wanna go first? Oh, I just remember hearing at the time, because I was in this movement at the time that he was murdered. And I I don't know that it was his ranch. I thought it was somebody else's, but that's the impression I got, an impression a lot of other people had at the time, Larry, and I've always carried it with me. He that may be the truth. He may have died of a heart attack there, but Dick Cheney may have had his, a pillow over his nose at the time. I I don't know.
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All of the all of the badges of murder there, it hasn't gone to trial. There was no coroner's, autopsy performed, for example. This is like the Kennedy assassination in Texas. Same stupid stuff went on. So there the evidence was hidden or not taken, but it seemed kinda odd. And it was true. There were a lot of folks that wanted to get rid of him. There's no question about that. And he I met him once. He came to speak to us, And, a lot of people didn't show up because they hated him so much. I mean, there were just a handful of us there. Just a handful because people hated him.
And they called him Scythian Scalia. Was he? Yes. He was. Why? He got worse. He got got older, and the reason was he just got frustrated that the left was being so stupid. It's just downright stupid. And he was Tired. Tired of the stupidity Mhmm. And the willful blindness to simple law.
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And he was, of course, a word man. Go ahead, Roger. Well, I was gonna say, didn't part of it revolve around his staunch defense of the second amendment? He was a real big second amendment guy. Right? No question. And he he I'd listened to him speak,
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not long before he passed away in places like Oxford and England and all. And he was downright cynical. It was hard to listen to him because he he was bitter. Bitter. I could tell. And I had a well, more than one professor like that. They spend their lives promoting truth at some on some particular point and dive right into it, know everything about it, and they can't have can't get anybody interested in it at all. I see that I can think of two people I know. One of two of them are professors. One of them is dead. The other one, just a professor. He wasn't my professor, but I got to know him back on the East Coast at a Ivy League school. And he say in simple things like I remember he said one time, you know, I suggested at a faculty meeting that since all attorneys are by definition agents another word attorney is the French law word for agent. Norman Norman French word for agent. Oh. That's all lawyers are agents, then we should teach a mandatory course on fiduciary duty.
You know, fiduciary duty or agents and trustees and parents and people like that that have a responsibility that goes beyond taking care of yourself in the deal. You know? Contract, you just look out for yourself. You don't look out for the other guy. What we say buyer beware, caveat emptor, but that doesn't apply to trusts. And trust, you're you're obligated to look out for all the other people in the arrangement even to your own detriment if you must. A trustee is even a higher higher fiduciary, that means brotherly, duty than, agent. But agent is high, very high.
So he said, okay. All lawyers are agents. As you know, a lawyer has to act in the interest of his client and can't, in the contract he has with his client, the law says that he can't, do what's beneficial for him at the expense of his client. That's against the law. So this guy said, well, since an attorney by definition is an by definition is an agent, we need to have a mind mandatory course at this law school. It was Suffolk, by the way, at this law school on fiduciary relationships, such as agent and trustee. And they all just listened, looked at him, acted they, like, stared at him like a like a collie dog cocks his head and stares at you. And when he got done, he said they all just looked at each other and went right on back talking what they were talking about.
He said that is utterly insane to not make that a mandatory course in our law schools. And so why do you think we're watching lawyers do what they do? Well, one of the reasons is they don't know the difference. Nobody ever taught them. They don't know what an agency is. They don't know that attorney. The word attorney is the Norman French word for agent. They think it's some special license they have to steal money. And no kidding. I mean, I know lawyers. I'm dealing with one right now. He thinks being a lawyer puts him in a special class because he's smarter than other people, and he can steal what he wants, and he's doing it. That and that happens a lot because we have lost. Here's what we've lost.
We've lost our sense that our common law tradition comes from God. It does not come direct from the Bible. No. No. No. No. It comes from God. The Bible comes from God. The Bible comes from God, and our common law tradition comes from God. Well, that's what I know about justice Scalia, but you went on to ask questions about you ask a question about some patriot mythology. Oh, the state of California, California. This is just downright dumb. This is more patriot stupidity to talk about stuff like that. When you get to flipping words around like that, that you know, there are words that mean something. Oh, no question. That Scalia was a word man. We could talk about that. He wrote books about words and the meanings of words and why words are important. He collaborated with a fellow that an etymologist, and they wrote a a book about interpretation of words.
And this guy had been the etymologist, for the Black's Law Dictionary, sixth or seventh edition. Forget which one it was, but that's important. But all this stuff about state of California, California, just downright dumb. I'll tell you what's important, friends. I don't care what you call it. I don't care what you call it. Is it in fact or not? Is it true or not? Is, is California a sovereign state or not? And we're losing that. And if we lose let let's look at the simplicity of it. This is what I believe to be most important in this discussion and most important period. Who is the final arbiter of right and wrong in all of the universe? Well, that's easy question.
The maker of all of the universe, heaven and earth, and there isn't anything else. The Bible begins by giving us the two divisions of God's creation. In the beginning, God created namely the skies and the land, the heavens and the earth. The heavens and the earth. Okay. There it is. And those two divisions play out with all of the okay. Then God said, I am the final arbiter. That means I am the decision maker in individual instances of right and wrong from whose decision there is no appeal. Period.
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Roger, somebody's back. There's a little noise in the background. I was gonna try and Address. Could you address it? Is somebody well, you know, the thing, if somebody calls them and they come back to the meeting the mute's on and they don't know it and stuff like that. I think it's gone by now. But, go ahead, Brent.
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Usually, it's one of our friends that do that. Well,
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we're not punishing you. We're just trying you know what Brent's saying in conveying these concepts and stuff is very important. And your mind should be concentrating totally on what he's saying, and those kinds of little things in the background are distracting. So that's the reason we try and eliminate them. Yes. And I've done it too, Roger. Yeah. I'm guilty of that. There's no So let me give you a 40 lashes or anything just to make it better for everybody.
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We'll give you 40 lashes with a wet noodle. It won't melt through. Okay.
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So Paul's cat on you or something. Go ahead.
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The final arbiter in heaven and earth, according to the Bible, is the maker of heaven and earth. Arbiter means he makes the decision, and he has no obligation to say why. Okay. He's the final arbiter. And then he has said, you can show this in the Bible and in nature. He has said, I am delegating to my people authority to make that final decision down on land, not up in the skies, but down on land. And I'm ordaining the 12 man jury to do that. I'm ordaining the 12 man jury to do that. The number 12 peppers. I should say better is woven through the warp and the wolf of the text of the context of the Bible, cover to cover and lid to lid.
12. It's important. The 12 man jury is important. 12 is the basis of our common law tradition, not 10. 10 is the basis of the law of the city. 12 is that's a martial law number, by the way. 10. It's in the Bible because it is a martial martial law number, and there is martial law jurisdiction in the Bible. The book of Numbers is about martial law jurisdiction. It applies to armies on fields of battle, the Levitical priesthood in that context, and, of course, admiralty law. But coming back to heaven and earth, God is the ultimate arbitrary. He is not obligated to say why he does what he does, the decisions he makes. But if he wants to, he does, and sometimes he has explained himself in the Bible. But down here on land, he is delegated in this age of man.
First Corinthians chapter four verse three, age of man in distinction with the age, they call it the day. It's the by the letters, the Greek text says, day of man. That's in contradistinction to the day of the Lord. In this day of man, God is delegated to us to impanel the 12 man jury and make those decisions in final final instances. The jury is the arbiter. Not not just decision maker, arbiter. That means no obligation. The jury has the jury, and the juryman has no obligation to say what happened in the jury room to give any reason. If they want to judge the law, they can do that, of course, or and the facts, of course. They are final in our common law tradition.
Appeal is not final. No. No. The jury is final as as long as the course of the common law was followed in, gathering and paneling and sequestering the all the things that have to happen, and there's more there than you could count. No jury men are not allowed to bring other evidence into the courtroom or into the jury room. They're not allowed to consider any evidence but the evidence that comes before them. They're not supposed to be reading the newspaper or watching the TV, looking on the Internet. We know they do, but that's our common law tradition. If it ever comes to light, the whole case has to be thrown out and start over. Mhmm. And I've seen that happen. Yep. So the jury is final arbiter down here on land in this age, this day of man.
Now the day of man ends with the coming day of Yaho popularly called the day of the Lord, the theme. The theme, one of the major themes of the prophets of the Old Testament, beginning with Isaiah and coming on through to Malachi is the day, the coming day of Yahuah. To put it in the hard pronunciation of Anglo Saxon, Jehovah. Jehovah called in the King James Bible unhappily, the Lord. That's a rabbinical habit. There's no need to do that. He is Yahoah. It means he happens. When he when he gets here in full fledged glory, the day of man ceases. He becomes final. He gathers a single man, gathers all three branches in of government and our common law government under a single will, and he is final.
Period. But right now, we've been delegated that and to deny it, as they're trying to do apparently in England, is to spit is to spit in the face of God himself.
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Whose decision, one whose decision there is no appeal. Yeah. But one who Brent is right before the top of the hour. I know Paul likes to do this and it looks like we caught it in time. Give you a couple of minutes. No rush. Would you tell everybody how to get more Brent Winters?
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Oh, thank you, Roger. Just go to commonlawyer.com. Www.commonlawyer.com. And if you go to that website there, you can take advantage of all the free things that are offered. We're on the radio, different places, seven days a week. It has the different outlets there, radio, Internet, Of course, this show, it's on there. And, we have church on Sunday, Winter's Inn, which is affiliated with the law school, Winter's Inn, Winter's Inn Church, or we just call it in church. You can join us there for that. We're going through the book, Cause by Clause and Blow by Blow, the book on Sunday of Exodus, the law of God, the statutes of God. Oh, they're all applicable.
The principles of them, we're going through them very slowly, but we're moving. We started in Genesis. That's been a few years back. That's how slow we're going. But then on Saturday, we're on Patriot Soapbox also. You can see it there on the website. Go to the media button, and we're going through the book of first Peter the apostle. The epistle of Peter the apostle, the general epistle, it's a sick cyclical kind of thing. In other words, that epistle was written to to, people at large, the 12 tribes, I suppose, that live like James in that sense, really, but it doesn't say that.
But it's written to everybody and, calls by calls and blow by blow. And then winter's in, we're teaching a course now. Oh, I encourage all you folks over in the old country, in England, across the pond to join us, please. By the way, if you're from, how can we prove this? I just had an idea. If you're from the old country, we'd we'd, make a special deal. But then again, how could I know? You might be living here in The States and lying to me. But I I'm anxious to our brethren across the sea, Christian folk all over the world, whoever you are. I want you to take the course, and we're clause by clause and blow by blow through the declaration of '76.
The declaration of '76. It's organized to the IT. It has the it's what breathed life into our constitution of The United States because it is the it is the common law complaint and the declaration to the world and to understand comparative law. That means comparing and contrasting our law of the land with the law of the city of the declaration of seventy six enables us to do that point by point. A lot of other things there. Go to the website commonlawyer.com. Roger has a website also. Roger, say a few more. Thematrixdocs.com,
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of course. And Paul, you want do we have people to say goodbye to you today, or we just enjoy the whistle for a minute? All might not be back from next door yet. Okay. Well, it usually is BOU. I'm not sure if they're with us today. Honestly, the way this day show started this morning, being unfrozen. We'll see you soon if, in fact, we're being separated here at the top of the hour. Brent, we did have this week a new guy from across the sea. Now he stumbled somehow into us on Monday or Tuesday. I don't remember earlier in the week. He had a distinct accent from that part of the world, except it was not English. It was Irish.
And his name was Oliver, and he's a naturalized citizen. He was in New York City. He was into this he had stumbled into this whole area of status and status change a while back and followed a couple other people. He just briefly, told us that. And he's we said be back tomorrow, and he hadn't been back since. So, then I've been able to hail him anyway. Oliver, are you out there with us today? I was wondering, of course, if he would have been, because there's a great possibility he was Catholic, or is Catholic. And, anyway, hopefully, he'll check back in with us, Brent. We always like to have Roger.
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He came on one day right after the show. Yeah. Yeah. That's when I'm done here or something. Right, Lisa? Well, no. After that, he actually came I don't remember. I don't think it was yesterday. It might have been Wednesday, I guess. Anyways, he's working most of the time during the show. And Oh, okay. I don't you know, he happened on that one day, and he may be back tomorrow.
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I was just listening in the background, so I'm not certain of that. But Well, thank you, Lisa, for the update. I didn't know all that stuff, and we'll look forward to him being back. It was nice talking with him, albeit it was kinda brief. Let's see what else. There's another thing I wanted to mention here and explore just a little bit, Brent, if you could. We've got a new, listener, new Spanish family, and her the mom's name is Alma. I'm sure Alma's listening today. They got a couple of children. They live in New Jersey. Her husband does, I think, HVAC work and stuff. And they've been here naturalized, I think, what's she say, twenty years or something.
And then she came on yesterday or the day before and to exchange, a conversation, and she mentioned that she was also a paralegal. So, and that she was finding what was happening is she looked at some form. She used to work with the consul or something, and and she found a form with National on there. And it's just like what I try and tell our folks, you know, when you get turned on to this, you'll see it all over the place. You never saw it before. And here she'd been working with these forms for five years and never seen it so prominently in the exchange of questions and information. So, anyway, this is so unique because Alma and her husband being Mexican, would have never had access to the common law, at least not formally through being in Mexico.
And now they move up here, and it's very she's got to be interesting because she was at some sort of a confab out of state somewhere. And in the conversation, my name came up. And she went back and investigated it and researched us down and found us. And, she's just charming. Alma, are you out there? I'm sure you are today, but it's just interesting to me. I was thinking, I bet they'd never even been exposed to these common law concepts before because from where they originated, they just never had access to them. They're absolutely not prominent, as you've stated many times, Brent, in these South American countries down here. It's all law of the city.
But, anyway, that's something else I wanted to mention. Alma might not be with us today, but she's a real sweetie and, a quick understudy and really just wants to learn to the point that she really went out and did some work to hunt us down. Uh-huh. So that's kinda cool. Did she talk to you? Yeah. She's come on the air several times. She must not be there today. I'm I'm sure I don't think she's too shy that the cat's got her tongue, but she might not be there today. She also has got children. That might be something to do with it. So, anyway, I just thought that's cool. They have something in common with us.
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We're all from the new world. We're native to this world. That that's a little diff so, yeah, I'm I'm I'm glad to hear that, that she's hanging around, and she must be working somewhere where here in The States is the way you talk. They're in New Jersey. They live in New Jersey for years. Okay. Okay.
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Naturalized citizens and been through the process and, absolutely all all ears and wants to learn. And and and just these are some of the experiences that this message brings to these people, and we're in a very unique condition where they could have really never achieved freedom where they were born and raised.
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That's true. You know what? Sorry.
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Go ahead, Roger. I was just just saying. So they come to The States. They think they're got freedom. They really don't. And then they really have an opportunity to achieve it where they never would have had that opportunity presented to them in their other situation. So it's just one of the joys for me of what we do here.
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George Gilder made the point that if it wasn't for the Mexicans, America would have collapsed a long time ago. Oh, yeah. And here's what he says. And I'll put it in my own words. The truth is white boys don't know how to work anymore. Yeah. There's a lot of truth to that. Oh, boy. Is there a lot of truth to that? I've had ranchers out west tell me. One of them used to fly down. He had a big I think this thing was something like 60 miles long and 10 miles wide land in Nevada, a ranch, and, had at least and owned a lot of owned the water rights, but he couldn't he first, he had, I'll just tell you his testimony.
He said he hired a lot of Mormon boys to work for him, and he said they were stealing him blind. He had a lot of cattle, and he finally, him and another fella getting that he knew there, get in their system. They'd fly down to San Diego, and there was this place down on the border near Tijuana that were illegals would congregate looking for work, Mexicans. And, he'd gather them up and find the ones he wanted, and, they'd put them they'd stuff them in the six seater, and they go down to get two at a time or, well, six seater, he get four of a time and him and they'd fly back. It was near, not Wendover, but, show oh, Ely Ely. Well, Ely, what who was the nearest town? And that's not a big town, but that's where they used to go get supplies.
Ely. By the way, to put it on the map, that was, Patricia Nixon's hometown. Oh my goodness. Nick Nick Nixon's wife grew up in Ely, Nevada of all places. Big or big. It's a big mining place, but it's not a big town. It's very small. Well, he'd he'd bring those boys back, and he told me he said, Brent, when it comes to having men that'll work, I mean, down and dirty cowboys, there's nobody can match these Mexicans. They get out and work. And the ones that didn't know how to do the ranch work, they figured it out real quick and got real good at it. And they're good. They're good at they were good at at fencing and, roping and welding and all the things you have to do on a ranch to keep things up.
And they said then they were just pleased to get the money I gave them, and they'd send a lot of it home because even if I didn't give them a lot, it was more than they could get in Mexico. Yeah. Of course. Yeah. So, and that's the kind of thing, but that's been thirty, years ago, over thirty years ago. That's the kind of thing that keeps America going. I know it's not legal. And you say, well, they're taking the white boys' work. Are they? Or is it just the white boys are all smoking crack and and doing math, and they won't work? Which is it? I know where I'm from. A lot lot of work to be done around there on the farms. And, if you could get a man I had one guy say this. Look. If I can have a young fella that shows up to work every day on time, sober, not drunk or on drugs, I'll try to hang on to him. I don't care how hard he works, if he works at all.
Just if he's sober and shows up on time. And he said, but I'm having a hard time finding anybody that'll do that. Yeah. Now don't tell me that's not dragging us down. That's how do you stop it? Of course it is. It's about it from now till the cows come home, ain't gonna change it. Yeah. What's gonna change it? I'll tell you what will change it. And it comes back to a point I wanted to make a while ago, Roger. Almost made it, and then I forgot where I was going. The English Bible, the Bible in English, has made England what it is, has made Britain what it is, has made America what it is. Without that, and I I can say that on the authority, who was it wrote who was it that wrote tragedy and hope? He was Bill Clinton's Quigley.
Quigley. Yeah. Bill Bill Clinton's memo a great historian, a wrong headed as the day is long, but when it comes to facts, he had some things right. And in his book, tragedy and hope, he made makes the point of how or what the Bible has done for Germanic man. Now who is Germanic man? Well, back when the Roman Empire started falling apart, Germanic man was Germanic man, the Germanic and Scandinavian people. That's what that's what Germanic man was. The Celts occupied Britain at that time and before that, the Iberians.
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They assisted in the downfall of Rome.
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Well, they did that too, but that's right. That's right. That's right. But when Rome started disintegrating, who picked up the pieces? And it was Germanic man. Mhmm. And Germanic man saw because and this is Quigley that said that. I quote him extensively in my book on common law. He makes a lot of observations that explain what happened. Germanic man, the infusion of the Hebrew Bible among Germanic man made Germanic man, along with their other characteristics, what they were. And Germanic man, along with Scandinavian man is Germanic man.
They ended up being the ones that migrated to Britain, and they ended up being the ones that took over the world. That is true. I mean, do we stop to consider that when when Constantinople fell in 1453, the people from England, from Britain, the Normans, they were there, and they were afraid. They were afraid. The people in Constantinople were afraid of them. They were afraid of the Turks, but they were there and had taken over all those places at different times. They were out take trying to take over the world even back then. They conquered Sicily, Constantinople, Roger the second, brother to William the conqueror.
He was ranging all over the Mediterranean conquering people. Who was the the man that was the founder of chivalry? He's recognized oh, Marshall. Marshall, he was, he was the advisor to King John of Magna Carta and, to his father, the man the man that brought dignity and what chivalry to our to the forefront of our common law tradition. He spent a lot of time over there. He was he was he was the the, Dick Butkus, or he was to sports in that day what Dick Butkus was to football, what Larry Bird was to basketball, what, Cassius Clay was to boxing.
John Marshall was to the world because the most famous sport in the world of all of Europe William Marshall.
[01:11:13] Unknown:
William. Thank you. Oh, the Yorkshire rose.
[01:11:17] Unknown:
Oh, I said, oh, I said John, and that was wrong. Yeah. So I'm glad he It was very wrong of you. Yeah. Very and that hurt. By the way, that injured You are wrong. That injured his pride and his feelings, and I don't I don't intend to do that, but thanks for recorrecting me. William and William was over there kicking around, and he was so famous in Europe because he was a jouster. I mean, jouster, but jousting was so popular from what I only know what I read, and sometimes I don't remember that, obviously. But jousting was so popular that they shut down the civil war in England, because everybody wanted to go to the jousting contest. That happened at one point. Well okay. So I'm gonna stop talking for a moment and Oh.
[01:12:00] Unknown:
Again, we will. Welcome our guest. We haven't seen you in a while. Hola, brother.
[01:12:05] Unknown:
How are you doing? Hi. Really glad you did. I'm I'm doing fine. I've just learned how to butt in, hadn't I? I was just practicing my can I butt in Yes? And wreck the show, skill set. And You did an exceptional job. We're gonna thank Brent for that. It was great. I didn't I I and I'm thinking, has he done that on purpose, thinking that I'm lurking around so that I come in? I don't know. He's because he's a canny lad. That's fantastic. Anyway, it worked. Uh-huh.
[01:12:31] Unknown:
We got a new we got a new guy that is Irish, and he hadn't been I've spoken with him one time. He's working. We conflict with his work. Maybe we'll talk to him more tomorrow. His name is a classic, Oliver. And, real nice guys. He really he's been over here. He's naturalized. Lives in New York. Really into this status change stuff. He was giving us the background of what he's done, and he stumbled into us somehow. So I'm looking forward to talking with him the next time. I wanna make sure I let you know that.
[01:13:02] Unknown:
Well, it's good. If you could please describe to us quickly, that's important, because we'd like the Tasmanian word association, activities. What does canny mean? C a n n y.
[01:13:17] Unknown:
It's a Scottish phrase. Canny means, you are you have skills. If you're canny, you're cute, if you know what I mean, in a kind of, you're, not so much deceptive, but you you're astute. That's what it means. Oh, I got it. You're astute. Oh, yeah. I had latched on the Clever. Slightly clever and and and on the ball. That's what it means to be canny.
[01:13:46] Unknown:
Does it also mean to to be frugal and keep what you got? Does that fit in or not? I don't know. I don't know. Is that an issue you've got going on in your life, Brent, or something you've been talking about? That's an American thing. I don't know. But no. I I had taken an interest in that word, and I, of course, I like I say, I only know what I read. I wanna know what your take on it was because you use it as though it's your native tongue. And if I can if I can, there's that word but in a different use. If I can, I try to work it in these kind of words into my translation of the Bible because sometimes these kind of funny work funny to people? Words capture the meaning better than what we, what we normally use and have become current with us. Now I remember the word canny growing up. I don't hear it much said anymore. I don't know what happened, but it seemed here's another one. Here's another one, gumption.
[01:14:45] Unknown:
Gumption. I used to hear it. Oh, that's a good word. That's a nice woody word, isn't it? That's got some force to it. Yeah.
[01:14:51] Unknown:
Woody. Yeah. A woody word. Yeah. It is. But but gumption, I I heard it a lot when I was growing up, but I don't hear it now. But, apparently, you still hear it over there. Is that true?
[01:15:05] Unknown:
Yeah. I used to hear it a lot when I was young and not doing things right. Oh, I don't know. One of my mom and my dad would say, show some gumption, lad. Yeah. Stuff like this. Oh, it's alright. Okay. Get on stage now. Apply yourself. That's what it means. Get you know? This is it this
[01:15:21] Unknown:
interests me because you said of me, you said he's a canny lad, and then you said me your father said get some gumption, lad. And I say, well, okay. Yorkshire is kinda up north toward the border, so apparently that's the word lad figures into the way you talk up there too. Is that true?
[01:15:39] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. We're all yeah. Come on, lad. That's a that's a regular one up there. Yeah. Oh, had can you tell us anything about what's happened to the jury recently and who this fella is, this so called minister
[01:15:52] Unknown:
that has said that we're going to do away with it?
[01:15:56] Unknown:
Well, it's I haven't actually looked into it that much because it's like the latest episode of, you know, the great distractathon as I call it, the great pantomime, the great pretense that we're actually involved and we're supposed to listen to these people. But he's called I think that that I don't know what his official title is, idiot of the day usually. He's called David Lammy. He's not even English. He's of African descent. So, maybe they're doing that to even rub our noses in, you know, in it. But, I was thinking in the car, I I was hoping to get here a little bit earlier, but I had to go to the barbers and then one thing led to another and pretty soon I was an hour late from from sitting in front of the desk. But I was thinking on the drive back that, really what I need to do, get to go with some people. We need to, have a jury trial to put David Lamy on trial for, breaking the Magna Carta because you can't get rid of it. It's in perpetuity and he seems to think he can. And of course, they are rightfully, I guess, from their point of view, relying on the sheer apathy of any sort of, retort back to them from any of the parties. You see this is the key thing. It's not so much that he said it. It's that none of the other so called politicos in that sick bag called the Houses of Parliament start gobbying off about it. There's literally no verbal abuse of him, and he it's just that's what that's what's sending the signal out. There's a the whole place is in apathy, and it's a reflection of the country to a great degree in certain regards. And, no one's got any fight, and they won't do it apart from which, you know, there is a problem that if you actually say certain things, you get locked up now just for saying words. Not gumption's not one of them, thankfully. No. You don't have to say words. You can put it on Twitter, and they'll arrest you and throw you in jail.
That's right. Well, there were twelve twelve thousand people charged last year with naughty tweets. 12,000. No. Just give me an idea.
[01:17:50] Unknown:
Yeah. What? Just, I I the way I get it about your country is that it has been, unless something's changed, the studied opinion of the barristers there that chapter 39 of Magna Carta is still in force. And let me read it here. And, you mentioned it. You brought it up. Let me read it. This is, it was written originally in Latin so that Stephen Langton wrote it, and he was archbishop of Canterbury. Well, he was the chief drafter. And the way I get it, he wrote it that way so that he could stick it in the face of the pope, which happened. And the people that were there that heard the reading of it to the pope said that he blew a proverbial head gasket. But here it is, chapter 39. I I hope folk take an interest in this and remember it.
This was, sealed. We don't know that John even knew how to write, but he put his seal on it. And chapter 39 says this, no free man shall be arrested, imprisoned, dispossessed of his property without lawful judgment by his peers or by the law of the land. Now let me read it again, and I'm gonna ask, Paul what he knows about it. Does he have an opinion about it? What does it mean to him as an Englishman, if anything at all? Is it special to him? But let me read it again. No free man shall be arrested, imprisoned, dispossessed of his property without lawful judgment by his peers or by the law of the land.
Paul, does that make you swell up with pride? Am I being corny and saying that and pathetic, or is that something really serious?
[01:19:46] Unknown:
Well, I think it's something really serious. The problem is and it's not unique to what you've just said. These things are not known widely enough or deeply enough or even in a simple understanding of it. They're simply not known. Yep. So if you get the entire if you get multiple generations, successive generations, made unaware, not ignorant, but unaware of a thing, they literally don't think of it, do they? You can't you can't think of a thing that you're not aware of and that's really what's happened and they've, you know, to some degree I was thinking that the COVID thing, they were stress testing just how sort of myopic and apathetic everybody's become and no doubt it ticked a lot of boxes for them in some regards. And now here we are a few years later and they're seeking to push all this stuff around.
It's, it's wretched, it's foul, but it's indicative of the fact that there's no pushback. And so, I don't think it's just of this nation, but this is the one, obviously, I'm concerned about. We are becoming a pushover, literally. You know? We're almost like there's like a sign to the bully. Go on. Push me over because I won't hit you back. You won't get I won't do anything. And that's really what's, you know, so we're governed by, these actors who are intellectually extremely mediocre people as individuals as you well know. I mean, we could use some other foul language, but I don't wanna get locked up. And, but, that's kinda what's going on, really. So, I mean, the whole I mean, just coming back to Marshall, William Marshall as well, he was it it wouldn't Magna Carta would not have happened without him.
It absolutely would not. The other week, I was at a little presentation, where we were looking at Shakespeare amongst other things, and although it only formed a small part of the whole thing, we were really looking at psychopaths in government, which is, you know, it's just a modern word to describe people going mad on power or whatever you wanna call it. I don't care. A lot of subjects
[01:21:48] Unknown:
to study there.
[01:21:50] Unknown:
Yeah. And and the Shakespeare thing is really interesting because part of the presentation, it wasn't a very long bit, although I spoke to, Alan, who was the presenter afterwards about this. And I need to get him on my show actually because I've really got on well with him. He's a great guy. I've done a lot of study. He he was talking about, you know, his theory, let's call it that, is that there was a team involved in putting Shakespeare's plays together, including a woman whose name he gave me who was over in Hampshire, and they met in Hampshire and in Oxford. And part part of it part of their remit, as it were, I don't know where this remit came from, I've just said that and made it up, was to introduce, which Shakespeare's plays did, a whole ton of new words into into the lexicon of the English language. And they did this, and it's kind of weaponized as well. It's it's much of it, I think, is to do with, you know, like these double meanings, like, I know that this has been around anyway, but you've got a court where you would be taken to to stand trial or whatever, which also means that you've been caught, c a u g h t. There's all this that's just one little example of it. There's tons and tons of this kind of stuff. But Alan brought up, a whole section about William Marshall, which were I wasn't anticipating, and it was really interesting. He was, as you said, a jouster. He was a knight, and he lived until the age of 71 or two, which is astonishing considering when he lived.
So he lived from the November through to about 12. He died about five years after Magna Carta in 12/15. I think he died about 12/20, 12/21, something like that at the age of 71. So he was in his mid sixties, a seasoned knight, and reckoned to be the of course, they they big these things up, but the only man of honor in England he was noted for this. And he therefore commanded the respect of everyone. Everyone respect, including the barons who were not a big bunch of nice guys either. This was sort of a power grab and all this kind of stuff and, but without him it wouldn't have happened.
He absolutely he basically was able to put it to them in the meetings that they had and get the king to do this because he didn't sign it nicely. And you know that it wasn't sort of a big sort of convivial we're all happy now thing because I think about five years after that they were pushing to change it straight away and that had to be stopped. And then again about another five years after that. So it's just human behavior, you know, self interest, comes before everything else, I would suggest, that it does amongst these sorts of people. And, it was writ large really in everything that they did, but Marshall stopped it getting out of hand, and they all shut up when he talked. And, he was fighting, I think, right through into his fifties on horses with lances and stuff like this. He was a formidable guy, about six foot two, which is ridiculous for that age as well. He was a very big man, physically big. I've forgotten where he's buried actually. I was looking at it only the other day. He's buried in some tomb somewhere in a cathedral over here.
So he's noted. But of course, I never learned that at school. They didn't teach me that really cool stuff at my school. They just give you lots of dates about all this other stuff. These these really core things, I would suggest, these core aspects of establishing freedom of speech, which is really where it comes from, which is, as we now know, or people are experiencing directly as opposed to just intellectually, is the most important freedom. Can't talk. You're done for. Yeah. And, and and, you know, so it there was an acknowledgment of what these guys did, and it was under the pressure of violence. Let's not be sort of backward about this. There was a lot of violence in England. There still is actually, but there was tons of it back then. And so it took a guy like that to actually get knock everybody's heads together because he would have probably run them through if they'd done what he said because he was still big enough and physically powerful enough to commend their respect. So, you know, a key figure. And, of course, no one talks about him apart from you and me in this little conversation, but rarely talks about him. People don't know who he is, but he's very important guy. Well, I'm glad you you filled some of those gaps in.
[01:26:05] Unknown:
In my defense, it was a slip. You know, John Marshall, the the this is not John Marshall. You're what did you say his first name was? William. Oh, yeah. William. William was the Englishman that was so indispensable to Magna Carta. But then there was also, in our country, John Marshall, who was on the Supreme Court for thirty four years and, kind of set the tone. And Mhmm. Of course, then there was, other, well, there was general marshall. Whether or not all these folk are related, I don't know, but in probability, they are. But to know a little bit about the foe and the sweep of what happened in England with Magna Carta is indispensable for us to understand who we are. Because when we our constitution was put together, it was a brief of common law government, and nothing new. This was not some creative thing that geniuses put together, James Madison and those fellows.
But Magna Carta was key in all that. And the most quoted, the most quoted man of those that put together our constitution of The United States was a man in England by the name of Ed Koch, sir I think they call him sir Edward. No. No. You say Cook Cook. That's right. Yeah. Well, some do, don't they? Yes. I've heard people say Cook, but it's spelled as in Coca Cola, c o Yes. It is. E. Yeah. Correct. Yeah. So In The States, people say some of them say things go better with Coke, so that we say Coke and they say Cook, but it's c o k e. But his commentary, he was kicking around pretty hard during the days of King James the first, and I think James Pertinier rolled his head off of his shoulders more than once because of what he was doing on the courts, tried to get rid of him, thought he'd make him famous and he would fall in line, but he never did.
But his commentaries on Magna Carta have been the touchstone for common law government. Now Magna Carta was not written especially to establish common law government. It was written rather, from what I read, rather drafted is a better way to say it, rather rapidly as things like that often are, rather rapidly and addressed, bullet fashion problems that were front and center in England according to our common law. It starts out, for example, Magna Carta starts out the first six or seven chapters addressing how widows and orphans are being treated and trying to correct that.
Yes. Yeah. Is that you, Paul, that said that? Yes? Yep. Oh, yeah. So you're now Paul is an Englishman, apparently, and I'm getting annoying as time goes on on the Internet. You don't you you you get to know people these days, but he's, he's a student of his own history, and we should be a student of his history too because we in our English speaking culture here in America, we are a common law tradition. There is no other way to describe who we are. We can't say that we are a democracy. That's not even true. Our common law tradition is not democratic. That's not what it is fundamentally. Nor, fundamentally, it's a common law tradition, and the foundations of our common law are what we go by here in America. The machinery is in place, and the machinery is in place in England. But here's what they're doing in England, friends.
They're dismantling the machinery. We're not doing that yet here. They dismantled the grand jury back in the nineteen thirties, Paul, if I remember right, in England. They took it away. Mhmm. You had grand jury Yeah. For centuries. We have it here in our states, so many of them, and, in in the federal courts. All the machinery is in place because we systematically in America this has never been done, but we systematically wrote down the fundamentals in a in a compact draft, to quote Chief Justice Taft, a compact draft called the constitution of The United States or common law as it is applied to government. A very thin slice of our common law tradition. Now Paul, maybe you could say something about this. This is my opportunity to get some information and a feel for it. I've heard people in England talk about their constitution.
And we here in America, we talk about our constitution. But here in America, we have really two fundamental constitutions. And one, both of them one, actually, the unwritten one, that's the one you have, is more important than the foundation of the written one. And do you, do you say it that way in England, our constitution, and talk about your constitution? Well,
[01:30:57] Unknown:
I might do from time to time, but generally, no one's aware people are oblivious to it in the great mass of people. It's, again, it's like it's become an esoteric study. The Bill of Rights, there is a Bill of Rights over here, and there's a constitution. There are people who are, proud, fiercely English seeking to, restore the English. I'm one of them. I'm not as knowledgeable as these people are about things, but they argue that the Bill of Rights and the English constitution are actually undermine Englishness and that there are flaws in it. I mean, you get this with every single document that's been laid down. We all think, well not that we all think it, but there is a general perception I think that, people go, oh, we've got this document and therefore it's all sorted out. But in fact, it's an it's an eternal fight.
It's good to have these markers. You need them. Yeah. But when you look into it, you find out in every single case, it's not sort of like some Hollywood production oh well we're all you know all chaps we're all agreed on this everything's gonna be great now. It's never ever like that never ever has been probably never ever will be. We've got this situation now where they're trying to get rid of trial by jury. This was mooted by some other numbnuts, politician in the nineties, Michael Howard, who is of the small hatted people, and he said, oh, we don't need this, you know. Well, he's right.
When he uses the word 'we' he's referring to that power elite structure. They don't need it. I agree with him. That's right. Unfortunately, unfortunately for him we do need it and we've got it. But of course now what they're simply doing is if, like I was saying, if you've got people that are going around in a blissful state of unawareness of these things, what's the point of them? If they're not actively a part of people's thinking and mindset and influence the culture in the way that they should and that that influence would have come say, through, an honorable BBC.
I just had to say that. Please. If we had institutions that were in support of these things, then there would be awareness. But we don't because all the power centers have been overthrown. Yeah. All of them. And And that's the situation that we're in. Of course. Yeah.
[01:33:09] Unknown:
Question. I I heard it yesterday on Infowars. I one of them just made the announcement that one some ministers trying to get rid of the jury. So I kinda opened up the show, with that today with Brent. So we had a brisk discussion of this before you were able to join us. But so the question is, it's not a blanket statement like that. Turns out Brent brings up the article. Read it. You got 80,000 doll 80,000 backlog on court dockets, and then they're going to throw some of them out. So is that a legitimate, reason, Or is it a foot in the door to get rid of all of it?
[01:33:48] Unknown:
Alright. So I go for the latter. It's always a foot in the door, and it would have been planned that way, wouldn't it? Yeah. It would have been planned that way. I mean, I'm I'm not fully up to speed in all these things, but I understand, correct me if I'm wrong, I might well be, that it's to do with jurisdiction. In their jurisdiction, which I view as a private legal club Yeah. That everybody is inadvertently and unwarriedly drawn into courtesy of birth certificates and other documents which they say are contracts and this and that. Over there. Right. However they've done it, they've done all this stuff. So that's fine. So in their world, that's it. But the the plan or a plan needs to be, and we're looking for active people to to sort of get involved with this, is that Englishmen and women, need to position themselves outside of that jurisdiction Yep. And be under the common law on England, on the land. It's to do with the jurisdiction of the land.
And, yet again, it's a massive communications challenge not because we don't have the truth but we don't have the means to get the truth understood rapidly enough by sufficient people this is my take on it so that you get a kind of communications momentum building up in people. That's the challenge. It is a communications challenge but not for lack of knowledge or for lack of truth. Those and those are very important things. So you could say well we're on the right side of history, we are. That doesn't mean anything, however, if if there's only five of us in a pub talking about it. It it really doesn't. It doesn't mean too much. It just means that the spark is still there. The ember is still there. Right. Meanwhile, they've lit a fire in in all these other departments that are burning the place to the ground, you know. And everybody's going, oh, well, they must be in charge because they're the government. I,
[01:35:29] Unknown:
I knew that you were embarking on this search and your, there was female barrister you've got and some of those other folks you were talking with here a while back. And now Gary, the guy that sent me this and his brother Dave, they're back. Their mother's passed away and other stuff. They're back with us on the show. They're probably listening right now. But it was Gary that sent me back when he was able to be more involved with the program, a document that showed those in England, you got six different statuses, and they were all listed at the bottom of that document. K? And one of them was English national.
Have y'all looked into that and tried to pinpoint that down any further?
[01:36:15] Unknown:
I've looked into it casually, but not in any great depth, Roger. I am aware of it. I went to the page. I've I've got it. You you're absolutely right. I Yes. I mean, this is to do with me and my personal issues and approach to this. I'm slightly more volatile. I can't be bothered with it. As you know, I I begrudged the idea that I'm supposed to put some time in
[01:36:37] Unknown:
to dismiss a thing that I never signed up for in the first place. I want to charge them for my time if I've got to do that. There there you know? Way they've gotten you to agree with this. I don't know the system over there, how it's put out now. It's but I know these guys that do it, and I know they always follow the same blueprint cookie cutter wherever they do these things because they've always worked. So you got a real strong percentage on your favor. That's what you're looking for and how to get to. And it's somehow, I'll bet you, I'll just bet you, it's through whichever minister is in charge of of issuing passports because of the same principles that apply in The US.
The reason the secretary of state has that power is because he's the guy that's always presenting Americans to foreign governments. So if he's gonna present you properly, he's gotta know which one of the six you are, doesn't he?
[01:37:34] Unknown:
May I?
[01:37:35] Unknown:
Yeah. Yes. I'll I'll bet you just when you get a chance, I know the situations, etcetera, but man, hone in on that. I'll I just know these guys Well, I'm getting more time available for proper work again. It's been a funny year as you know, but I am getting a lot more time available. So I'd be sure if the answer isn't there. Paul's wanting to say something. Hey, Paul. Have you thought out
[01:38:00] Unknown:
yeah. I'm too interested in it. Ages. Yeah. Ages. Ages and ages. Mhmm. Yeah. I thought I'd a little bit. To you, Paul, as a personal favor to me, would you please look into it? Because if for no other reason, the, the lack of freedoms of speech and how you basically put, body parts on the chopping block every week. It would be as far as an affidavit, as far as, declaration of of yourself as an English national, it is like insurance. It's better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it. And when they knock down your door and drag you away, that's too late.
You can't go back. So as a personal favor to me, please look into it.
[01:39:02] Unknown:
Andy Hitchcock is used to say, those who have an answer for everything, that was his moniker for them, they don't have an answer for this. Because when they're confronted with it, they stay on mute, and they do it every time.
[01:39:22] Unknown:
Well, we'll see. I think we're in the period of violence, you see. You know this. We're definitely in a period of violence. Oh, that's absolutely where we are.
[01:39:30] Unknown:
And That's what all this is for. That's what your grooming gangs are for. That's what these and these Afghans that are doing grooming gangs, I heard are from a a real specific area of Afghanistan. It doesn't apply to all of them, but this one sect is particularly rowdy, evidently. So so I'm just I hear these things out of England, Paul. I can't help but think of you because we care so much about you, and and it just breaks my heart.
[01:39:58] Unknown:
Well, Paul Well, my mind's not broken. Mine's not broken and I'm not dispirited. There there are things going on because I hear things. I have good little conversations with people. There are there are a lot of people who are tuned in still waiting to muster correctly, but it's happening. It's things are there are symptoms of, a beating heart still left in the nation. And I was, heard something the other day. I don't know if it was on the show last night, but, for example, somewhere up in the North Of England, there's a, a unit. I think they're called The Guard. These are blokes who have muscles and attitude.
They're our men. They have a lot of ex military men in there, and they are safeguarding streets so that girls don't get kidnapped. It's just the beginning of it. It's going it will have to happen because nature is gonna put energy into our breasts as it were, like it has to, if it wants us to carry on. And some of our people are gonna require some enormous kicks up the arse. Yes. I might well be one of them, and I'm quite happy to receive it. If it kicks me in the right direction, I don't mind. I think it's, you know, there's a a relatively small number of people with the right attitude, but it is growing. The speed of it is,
[01:41:16] Unknown:
always too slow. You know, we want it overnight, but, it's going at its own pace. Here's another important corollary to you over there. I heard yesterday that the IRA is getting reorganized and shows signs of life. I am and I used to get all these things confused in their little dialectics. Was the IRA was that IRA and Sinn Fein? Were those the the combatants up there in that one of them? Well, Sinn Fein was the political wing of the political party of the IRA. Yeah. Okay. Was IRA Catholic or Protestant?
[01:41:50] Unknown:
Catholic, I guess, because, yeah, it would have been Catholic. It was for it was from the main it was from Ireland in the main looking to, reintegrate Northern Ireland, and that's that's part of it. Yeah. Well, that they're they're kicking up there down too. Just just heard it day or two ago. Yeah. There are things happening. People are their fuses are getting are popping and things are happening. I mean, it's it's just, you know, in the past, the minds of people could take it
[01:42:21] Unknown:
anymore. I'm mad as hell, and I ain't gonna take it anymore.
[01:42:26] Unknown:
Paul, I'm trying to get in. I'm Yeah. Come on, Brent. I'm sorry. Thanks. That's alright, Roger. The discussion is good. I mentioned to ask a question. I learned about a, a parliament member up there. He's an Irishman, and he is the unofficial leader, the way I get it, of the Labor Party. And he was arrested not too long ago at one of the airports.
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Oh, this is Galloway.
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Galloway. That's him. Yeah. Yep. Yeah. So, obviously, there's a problem, but you said a while ago you didn't wanna get arrested. Is, what we're saying here being broadcast in Britain, and is it dangerous for you to talk?
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I don't think so. I think if you say anything if you pass any criticisms about, transgender people, you can get locked up now. I understand. I've gotta look into it. But somebody things are mad. It's all about this control of language and perception and blah you know all this stuff. So that's what is going on. So it the the bully boy is in full flow, and they're only gonna become ever more bullied.
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Here's your case. He's in his early twenties. I don't remember what part of the country. He put something on Twitter, and he didn't make any threats. He just said I'm tired of, and he started listing a couple of things. They put him in jail and sentenced him to twenty months.
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Yes. It was a it was a female judge that did that. Yes. And at the same time or within a similar sort of time frame, she also did not send to prison a pedophile. Right. And that's by design. This is definitely by design to do this, and for it to be publicized. They must have this publicized. This is part of the psychological demoralization process to create an unhingedness in the people. Because you see all these comments, well, I see many of them. This is, you know, they say things like, this is ludicrous. This is nonsense. Yeah. From from the old perspective, you're right. We're not in that. They're resetting a context. And, you know, people need to find a new language of dealing with it. We have to stay calm. I I really do mean that. Right. Yeah. Here's a twist. Here's a twist on
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women will rule over you and women judges will be your oppressors.
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Women and children will rule over you. And that's what we do. I know. I I a twist on the phrase. Well, let's I like it. No. It's right. It's right. We should make a plea.
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I've done this before. A plea for femininity. Because without femininity, men, the contrast is not drawn, give you a case in point. Of course, we've heard the stories about Jenny Geddes, the woman with the milking three legged milking stool that started the started the reformation in full force in Scotland. And then, over here in America, a lady by the name of, Barbara Fritke, Barbara Fritke, Stonewall Jackson, command well, that's a that's a poem. It's a good one. But then I'm gonna give you what happened to me not too long ago. And, this is missus Brent. And we were at Walmart.
Well, it's the we were at the largest or the smallest super Walmart in the world. It's not pretty close here to Terre Haute, Indiana in the Wabash Valley. And it was during the heat of COVID, and we never wore a mask, and we didn't walk the right direction in the aisles and made a point of not doing that. Went to Walmart late at night, coming through the line. Missus Brent did not have a mask on. I didn't either. And the lady at the cash register said she wouldn't check missus Brent out. And she got incensed and said, no. You will check me. Oh, she got hotter than a pistol.
Mattered in an old wet hem like my mother says. Well, the man standing behind her pulled his mask down. He said to missus Brent, he said, you're right. And missus Brent, by that time, of course, her the female being more deadly than the male and her dander was up. She said to him she said to him, well, if I'm right, why don't you get some balls and take that mask off?
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And you know what it means? I think it's a good use of that word. That seems appropriate under those circumstances.
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Under those and she's a Christian. She is a Christian lady, I might add, or a strong one, and reads your Bible every day and reads it out loud. As a matter of fact, it listens to it. But at any rate, there comes a point where, ladies have to say, men, you're supposed to handle this and you're not handling it. And I, she appreciated what he said, but if he really believed it, he need to jerk that diaper off his head and quit looking like a fool. Well, she did that. Of course, like any woman, any female, she came back to her senses then, after that and was a little calmer.
But that's what we need. We need men. And you said this while ago. I caught it, Paul. You said English men and English women. You didn't say us here in England. You distinguished you made a point, maybe out of habit, of distinguishing the male from the female. That's all we have to do. We don't have to make a big production out of it. We just need to always remember there's a difference between the male and the female, and God will honor that. I believe he will, and he'll fight for us. He'll fight for us if we just say the truth, if we believe it and and know it, if we know it and say it, if we're afraid to say it, I don't believe he'll fight for us. Matter of fact, he says in the book of Ezekiel that if we don't say the truth, that, when the hell falls, on, the the the wrong headed man, it'll fall on us too because we're not saying the truth. We don't need to be belligerent.
There may come that may come. Yes. I mean, physically belligerent, but in the meantime, we just say the truth. We're going through the declaration of 76, not anywhere in that document. Is there any saber rattling, any call to arm? None of that. Just saying the truth. And I You do Go ahead. You do realize, Brent, that
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as somebody who wants to say the truth, you're a scoundrel, don't you? Like, there was a little quote I read out yesterday from Menken who I, write very highly. Fantastic. How about this? This one I just stumbled across the other day. This describes everybody here, I think. It's, he wrote, the truth indeed is something that mankind, for some mysterious reason, instinctively dislikes. Every man who tries to tell it is unpopular and even when, by the sheer strength of his case, he prevails, he is put down as a scoundrel. So as a fellow scoundrel, I salute you because, I think that nails, a key part of it. It is true. People bridle and leave the conversation when the truth is coming near to the fire. They it's like pulling people too near to the fire, and they get fidgety. And they don't want it because they're gonna get upset.
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They can't cope with it. It's tricky. American jewel, H. L. Menken. I think there's one video on the Internet of him before he died in a old audio tape thing. But I remember reading a story of somebody that knew him. And he he would he'd go off off and with a typewriter and he'd do all his writing there solo alone. And so somebody that knew him, and he said he snuck around the corner of the building around the corner and looked in there, and he typed something out. And then he just started laughing hysterically and slapping his knee.
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Don't you do that when you have a thought? I do that all the time. I'm sat there noodling on something. I think of some crazy idea, burst out laughing, And I'm going, I'm really losing it. I thought, well, you know, at least I'm entertaining myself. It might as well, you know, go mad in the privacy of your own home. It's not too bad. At least you don't upset everybody. Let me see if Paul and I are in sync here. Paul, you don't have your finger on that Minkin quote, do you?
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Of course I do, but it will take I knew you would, so I set him right up. Boom. We're listen. Paul Paul and I are like, Johnny Carson and Ed McMahon. We got a we got a pretty good thing going here. Why don't you just putt that for a minute? I don't I wonder if Paul's heard this.
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Yeah. It it'll take me just a moment. I have to move some things out of the way and get No. He's one of my favorites.
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What a what a poignant, pointed, oh, sarcastic, right on the edge way of delivering his message. Hey, for the audience, H. L. Mencken, he was, I believe, one of the editor one, one of the, editorialists at the Baltimore Sun back in the early
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twenties. Hey, copper winner.
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Yeah. He's brilliant. Oh, went away with words. When people were allowed to write.
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Yeah. And they At least he was, He had a way of character to get it through, but it's tremendous stuff. Maybe it's when some of the newspapers were still independent. They didn't weren't all owned by the commies.
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So mute We've got we've got somebody here that's unmuted. Yeah. There's a little conversation in the background, please. Oh, that's Chris in California. I'm gonna mute you, dude. We're doing the make and quote. We're going now. Let's make sure that we don't have anybody else unmuted. I think that I'll go hunting for him. There we go. Okay.
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I wanna share this quote from Sovereign to Surf by Roger s Sales, and the quote is from h l Menken, Baltimore Evening Sun, 02/12/1923. And I think many of us during these last nine hundred plus days, have experienced this in seeing that, few really desire liberty. So the quote is, the fact is that the average man's love of liberty is nine tenths imaginary, exactly like his love of sense, justice, and truth. He is not actually happy when free. He is uncomfortable, a bit alarmed, and intolerably lonely. Liberty is not a thing for the great masses of men. It is the exclusive possession of a small and disreputable minority like knowledge, courage, and honor.
It takes a special sort of man to understand and enjoy liberty, and he is usually an outlaw in democratic societies.
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Woo
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hoo. Roger?
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Yes, Brent. Well, who
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who was that that just read? Nastasha. Oh, thank you, Nastasha. Well, it's the truth. And, of course, if you're right headed in life, pretty soon, you're gonna find out. And I had older men tell me this when I was in my twenties. If you ever take the right position on something, it's really true, you'll defend the ground with others, then you'll defend it by yourself in time, and and you'll be standing by yourself. And I'm, got my three score and 10 in, and I'm standing by myself on a lot of things now. But the problem with some of that is when somebody like Macon says that, inevitably, folks will come along and think just being a radical fella and always saying what they wanna say is the thing to do, and that's not true either. We must and I've tried to learn how to do this. We must be careful the way we present the truth. We don't want to be unnecessarily offensive. Sometimes we have to be, but just calmly say it, and don't be looking as John Wycliffe of England said to his students when he sent them out with the Bible. He was the man that put the Bible in English for the first time, the whole Bible that is.
And he sent them out, and he said, don't look for a martyr's crown. Don't look to get yourself killed. Just go out and read this stuff on the byways and the crossroads. Don't look to be a martyr because it but if you read this book out loud, martyrdom will find you soon enough.
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Don't worry about it.
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It's true. Yep. Yep.
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Well, now Wickliffe, of course, he had that figured out, his experiences in life. And they came after him to kill him, but they didn't get to him in time. And he was somewhere wherever he was a little tiny church out in the country near the, I forget the name of the brook that ran by the church. They ended up burning his ashes after they dug his body up and dumped dumped oh, the River Swift. They call it the River Swift, where it wherever that is. I think it's on the West Coast, but you can look it up. He beat him to the punch and died of a stroke, and and they didn't get to kill him. So they dug him up, held a trial. Mhmm. Can you imagine holding somebody's skeleton up and having a trial? Good. Oh, here's the difference, though. And I wanna bring this out. I forgot to.
Wait. The truth, of course, isn't readily available. It as the Bible says, Romans one is buried under, overburden of wrong headedness. That's the really the way to translate that word wrongheadedness. Unrighteousness and and, Tyndale invented that word. It didn't exist before. It used to be, unrightwiseness indicating direction you're going wise, but he thought that was too cumbersome and I agree with him. So, righteousness is a good word, but it's become hackneyed till we just say it and it makes a pretty sound in our heads. And we don't think about what it means, but it means to have your nose pointed in the right or the wrong direction depending upon whether it's righteousness or unrighteousness. Well, Wycliffe, of course, he saw that difference. But we in our common law tradition, fundamentally, we don't think about it, but we have trials.
We know that the truth is buried and it's not going to bob forth without a fight. It will not bob forth without a fight, and it is enjoyable to watch in a trial, a cross examination. There's another feature of our common law that doesn't exist in the rest of the world, the law of the city, under cross exam they just use torture. We use cross examination. Under cross examination long enough and the truth inadvertently, unexpectedly bobs forth. And it makes all the difference in the world, but it takes work and time. That's why our common law tradition is fundamentally adversarial.
The law of the city tradition of the rest of the world is fundamentally inquisitorial. To put it in blunt term, the law of the city, truth is obtained through various levels of torture. In our common law tradition, truth is obtained through combat combat before the jury, trial or combat, but what we we used to say battle by trial, and now it's trial by battle, and all the rules are the same. What John march or John. Excuse me, Paul. What, I got John Marshall. I'm getting to know John Marshall. I quite like the guy. He's quite good. John, you know, John Marshall, the people that knew him said he was the consummate stud when he was young because he was in the Continental Army and they'd have contests. He wasn't a lawyer at that time, but, he'd always win all the jumping and running and shooting contest. He would he was, quite the fella. But when he got older, of course, he wasn't that way. I wanna tell the story. If I got time, I I Yeah. Well, no. We got plenty of time. We're just This is about John Marshall wanting to visit with one of the Kentucky colonels because the Kentucky colonels were a a veterans organization that formed after the war with Britain.
And the fellows that were given free land around Cincinnati, Ohio and all around in there, a lot of them is in Kentucky, and they called themselves they're a veterans organization. They called themselves the Kentucky Colonels. Mhmm. And when they came to Washington, DC, they had a special tavern that was their tavern. That's where they hung out. It was their club, and they didn't let anybody else in there. And, of course, the tavern owner honored that when they came. Well, John Marshall wanted to talk to one of them. He was on the Supreme Court of the United States at the time. And he went to the tavern because that's when the boys ran from Kentucky, which was across the mountain. So he went in there and said, well, I want talk to so and so, and he's can I come in? They said, no. You can't come in.
You can't come in. They said, well, I gotta talk to him. Will you send him out? So they went and talked to this fellow he wanna talk to, and he said, no. He said, if he wants to come in here, he's gonna have to please me. Well, what do I need to do? John Marshall sent a message back. He said, you need to write me a poem, a poem that pleases me. And so Marshall's sitting outside on the bench and he pulls out a piece of paper and a pencil or something, and he thinks for a while and he finally writes this poem. And it got him in, and the poem went like this. In the cornfields of Kentucky, a mystery is born.
The cornfield is filled with colonels, and the colonels are filled with corn. And he was referring to them inside drinking corn liquor. See? The cornfields are filled with colonels, and the colonels are filled with corn. And then another revealing story about John Marshall, he was in Washington DC during market day, and he was kind of a got he got awful skinny and gangly, and he got older. He was, well, just an older he was an old man, and, he was there, and he didn't wear nice clothes. His clothes, they just get used to a coat, and he'd wear it dirty or tattered. And he was there, and a woman bought a turkey, for a quarter, which was enough money at that time, apparently. And he was standing close by, and she looked at me and thought he was some kind of a ragamuffin that needed some money. So she said to him, listen, young man. She was older than him, apparently.
I'll give you a quarter if you'll carry this turkey home. Follow me and carry it home because that's just too heavy for me to carry. Well, instead of saying, well, I'm the Supreme Court justice of The United States, he said, no problem. You got a quarter, and she gave him the quarter, and he carried the turkey home for her. That's apparently the kinda man that Marshall was. But this adversarial tradition of our common law, not John Marshall, but the other marshal over in England, he became the the man that really brought to the forefront the rules of jousting.
And the rules of jousting were the rules of trial by battle. And it became, of course, he was he got wealthy by the way, doing that. All over Europe, he was the champion. And he wasn't a member of the nobility the way I get it, but he had enough money. He could get the influence and he married him the way I get it. And he became advisor to the crown and all that. But the rules of chivalry that John Marshall brought to the front and center are the rules of our common law courts when we go to trial. There is no difference fundamentally. I mean, even to the point when you start a common law case, you've got to serve the other fellow notice of the dispute and the place of the contest and tell him if he wants to be there, he can. And if he doesn't show up, he's defaulted. Well, that's trial by combat in England. That's the way it works. It's also due process.
The and it's called due process. Yes. All of the rules are the same. I have I don't know all of them, but I know enough of them. By the way, there's a movie that came out recently about, combat by trial and famous actor. I don't I disremem he was the guy that was in Born Identity that wouldn't
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Oh, yeah.
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Well, whoever whatever his name Matt Damon. Damon. Yep. Matt Damon played the part of a, I think, a knight in Normandy, and his wife was raped by his best friend. She wouldn't back down and she wanted something done about it. So they went to trial and lost and they appealed by permission. You have to have permission to appeal, say, at common law, it's not a fundamental right. And so he got permission from the court to appeal to God. And trial by battle is the final appeal to the maker of heaven and earth. That's part of the Christian way of looking at it. And he did.
And his wife, of course, was the only witness, the other witness. There were two witnesses, the guy that she claimed raped her and her, the only witness. And so they appealed to battle and whoever lived, had the favor of God and it was justified. But if he lost, she would be executed for being a false witness. So they both had to agree, husband and wife in this particular instance, to trial by battle. And she was willing to do it, appeal to God because her honor, of course, and his was soiled. I'm just giving you something. Hollywood is good for, well, as they say, what comes out of Hollywood is no good, and fundamentally, that's true. But in some of these movies, there are good examples to teach us about law and our common law because these movies are made in an English speaking world. Well, Roger, thank you very much, Paul English, for dropping in and, giving us your take on trial by jury and what's going on there.
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And, Nice to hang out. Always nice to hang out. Well,
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you know, unless you gotta go, Brent, certainly, we're we can stick around, and this is one of those occasions that I would like to with Paul joining us on one of these, type of occasions. So if you gotta go, though, I understand that too.
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Well, no. I'll I'll hang around a little bit. It gets to the point where, my blood sugar drops, and then I do have to get something to eat. And I've learned now I can turn my mic off while I'm chomping, and it doesn't offend people as much. Right. Yeah. Yeah. You know what I Roger, what's that? You wouldn't offend us if you had it on. So But what? I would No. It it would it would lend atmosphere to the show. It would Atmosphere.
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I don't know. It's not like crunching.
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It I like a meal to it. Chew it on marbles. That's kinda what a mouse do. But when I when I was a political animal, we'd go to meetings. Of course, those of us running for office would set up front because and it was a big feed, always a meal. You know? You don't wanna talk to a hungry crowd, so you you talk after. And, I tried to make a lot of them, of course, and I, they'd have the feed before we spoke. And, of course, I'm sitting at this long table up by the podium up there with all the other people running for office, and and they'd bring us our food. And, I'm hungry.
And so I tried to eat. Well, I found out I shouldn't do that, and I had other people advise me, don't eat in front of that crowd because you're running for office. They're watching everything you do. And they'll watch you eat, and then they'll make fun of you. And I found all that was true. So I just quit eating when I ate before I went. And and then when I get up, I eat it. And then miss Francine has told me, Brent and I'm on, public platform, and sometimes I get hungry, and I'll try to nibble on something while I'm making my presentation. It doesn't work. And she said, I don't wanna watch you eat, and other people don't either, so I quit doing that. But, with this, I Gotta love Francine.
Yeah. Oh, well, she's that feminine influence that makes things a little better. You know? Uh-huh. Mhmm. Missus Brent is here. People think for a long time, they thought, well, Francine is missus Brent, but she isn't. And so finally, I saw that was coming out in the chat, and so I corrected that. I have a number of women in my life, females, and, I have, my mother. She's, up in her about 95 or somewhere in there. And I have missus Brent, and I have five daughters. And, that's enough. That's enough. I don't need any other woman telling me what to do. They tell me. Yeah. Oh, yeah. They think they're entitled to tell me what to do. Now sometimes, of course, I'm glad they do, But I tried to encourage them. If you're going to tell me what to do, ladies, come with your hat in your hand as it were and be respectful.
Don't be bossy. And I I say that to all women out there. Don't be bossy. It won't work. You may think it's working, it doesn't, and it will destroy. Men can't help it. Men can't help it. They're put in this position of husband and father, and it's a different position than their wives, and they're responsible for everything. And even and God doesn't bless brains. Keep that in mind, women. God does not bless brains or brawn. That's good Bible. It says that. And what he blesses is his order. And that means that we all learn to show respect going up. That's that's that is front and center in the kingdom of God.
I had a hard time learning it because I, I came from a pretty rough environment, there, off the farm and where we, well, we didn't pay attention to that kind of things. It was just those kind of things. If you just, if you just, didn't fall out of line, if you did fall out of line, somebody put the whooping on you, they'd attack you verbally in an ugly way. And I've tried to learn not to do that. Respect and decency are Christianity. Oh, we were Christian. We were just rough Christian, I should say. Yes. I'd my father is 99.
I still talk to him, and he, he brings me back to center too, and he beats me up too. And I can't say he's real tactful about it. You know, I thank God, often that my father, I still got him around, to beat me around a little bit. You need to. I need it. Oh, lord. I tell him that. I don't, you know, I don't care. I know I make a lot of mistakes, and he gets upset. But, I can't tell you how thankful I am, but I still got you around. Well, slap me back in line if you think I need it. I think he's wrong in a lot of cases. And when I do and by the way, he's not responsible for my behavior anymore, but I listen to him.
And, I don't want to cross him. I must I've my brother and I I have an older brother. He's eighteen months older than me. We both say, boy, we're fortunate. We can still try to learn how to show respect to our father. Yes. When when he's abusing us verbally. And, you know, it's what God wants. So that's okay. That's okay. I sure wish I had mine around, Brent. I get it. I get it. My my. Somebody said something. Yeah. Who was it?
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Hey, Brent. Did missus Brent did missus Brent get her groceries checked out at the cashier that time when the man behind y'all were wearing a mask?
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Yeah. Through sheer intimidation, she intimidated him. She and she said this by the way. She said, I will not be intimidated by this stupidity. I remember her saying that at that time, and she said it more than once. You're not gonna intimidate me. Now that's the way a woman ought to be when things are wrong, but she should never be that way to her husband. Amen. Ever, ever under any circumstances. If it's bad, if it's bad enough, if it's bad enough and and your husband's abusing you physically, run. That's your duty. Right. But, fighting won't work. I tell you that as somebody who has had his head in the Bible for a lot of years, been married for about fifty years, and have has done a lot of counseling of marriages.
Lots. Never works. I did.
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Didn't didn't the cashier say I'm not gonna check you out? I'm not gonna check out your items?
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Oh, no. No. She got them checked out. No. No. They they've been. You know, it's just a matter when it comes to evil, just
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not giving in. Yeah. Exactly. Just don't rebut the presumption.
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Yeah. It doesn't mean you'll always get what you want, but don't give in. The Bible says it this way. The savior says it this way. Resist the evil one and he will flee from you. Now it's been my experience for what it's worth. This is a testimony of my experience. This resistance of which Jesus Christ speaks is a resistance that must be persistent, and it doesn't happen quick. You just well, I think Paul said a while ago, this is an oh, yeah. He did say this. He said, this is not I I won't quote his words, but he said, this is an ongoing struggle. This is not something we can let up on.
Here here is Magna Carta. And as soon as Magna Carta was in place, they went right back to trying to kill each other again. That really happened. And, and, well, that really happened, and it's still happening here. They're not letting up. England didn't let up. England came up the powers that be in England came after Americans. They were burning their coastal villages, inciting the merciless red man, it says in our declaration of '76, to against us who make no distinction between at that time, they made no distinction between age, sex, and physical infirmity. They just murdered everybody.
All of those things are true. Life is as a Christian man or woman, life is never ending warfare, and our captain says, obey my orders. Do not go about making your own standards or what how you ought to handle this. And if you don't know what the book says, you don't know what the orders are, and you can never let up on trying to learn what the book says. You'll you'll learn more and more and more, and you'll understand it better and be able to apply it in different circumstances more distinctly.
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But if you're trying to yeah. Somebody said something. Go ahead. Yeah, John. Grant, so so so did the cashier call the manager, or did she just start checking out the items on her own without calling the manager?
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She just checked them out. Yeah. The the gal there just checked. And by the way, we never had I never had any problem. I never had any problem during those days with the men. It was the female, the species, working that checkout counters and gas stations Absolutely. Where the problem came from, and it got vicious at some points. Not to tell all the stories, but all I said was, no. I'm not playing that goofy game. I'm not, I believe and I I said this is a first minute amendment question. One time I said to a lady in a grocery store, this is in, along the coastal ranges in California, I said, if you'd like to explain this to a federal judge, I I can arrange that.
Other than that, check me out.
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And I'm I mean,
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I I it got to that point. Now usually, if you can be calm and, you know, the Bible says that a man that can control his spirit is stronger than a man that conquers a city.
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Absolutely.
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And how do I know that experientially? Do I know that? Yes. How do I know it? Because I have not always been in control of my spirit. Yep. To be in control of your spirit, not lose your cool is power. And to be respectful at the same time with power, the the our commander, our captain commands us that, and he tells us how to handle it. Just say the truth. That's all you gotta do, and then act upon it if you get the opportunity. But don't hear I tell my boys, don't square off with a man that's got the drop on you. You're gonna lose. Do not square off with a man that's got the drop on you. In other words, he's got his pistol pulled. Don't pull yours. It's too late. Don't be stupid.
That's being really stupid. Germany did that. JPAN did that. And I say this with all due respect, the evil forces that were controlling the Confederacy here in America did that and they were destroyed. I don't care what your issue is, and I don't care how right you are. When it comes to force and violence, be careful. Be careful. And so don't square off. There used to be a famous country song. It was Hank Williams Jr. And the name of the song was Attitude Adjustment. Do you remember that, Roger? Vaguely. Yes. Well, you remember Paul? One of them, but he said Yeah. It's look it up and listen to it. And what he's saying in the whole thing is that, it ain't right. It's stupid to, to, to square off with somebody that's more powerful than you. Now Jesus Christ addresses that particular problem too.
And when he says, he said, well, two things are said in the Bible resist evil, and it will flee from you. And the King Jimmy King Jimmy's boys then translate his comment and say, re, do not resist evil. Well, what's the deal? How could the Bible say those are contradictory statements? There are no contradictions in the Bible. What's the problem? Well, the problem is that it's just a simple matter of translation. When Jesus Christ said, do not resist evil, what it says there is, to be more particular, it says, do not square off with the evil man. You'll lose.
There are other ways to fight him. That's the point. This is guerrilla warfare. That's why Jesus Christ said There is. He, why is as serpents and harmless as doves in this warfare? But follow my directions. Do not square off. Yeah. Somebody's gonna say something. Paul.
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Well, that's exactly why I asked Paul to look up the, whatever declaration he's gotta make to declare his status in England. That is tantamount to squaring off with somebody that's got the drop on you. Yeah. Because
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once they have you in cuffs, it's too late. You can declare all you want, and nobody's gonna listen to you. So Like in that song says Hank Williams junior, the cops show up. His his wife calls the cops on him. That's why it's all kind of funny. And they show up with a Rin Tin Tin, you know, and billy clubs and all that. And he says, you ain't gonna arrest me. And they said, oh, yes. We will. And they will. You know? They're they'll just call him back up, and they'll get you down sooner or later. And, so don't square off. And that what that means is do not square off and, in a blow by blow, I'm going to knock you down. And the last man standing wins when they've got more power than you. Remember the government of the United States has the, has the army, the Navy, the air force, the Marine, the IRS, the FBI, the CIA, NSA, BLM. I mean, you name it. They got it. Well, hell, all the agencies are armed now. And they're armed. They have a militarized
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police force.
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And they have all been yeah. You're make a good point. They've all been militarized. But what scares them? I'll tell you what scares them. What scares scares them more than anything in the world, just the truth. And don't be don't be dramatic about it. Just say it. Learning, it takes a lot to learn how to just number one, keep your mouth shut. Don't talk back to them. Don't talk to them at all. That's being wise as a serpent. Use the fifth amendment. That's a bad that's a not a bad. That's a good weapon that can do some bad damage to them.
And they don't like it. Oh, they don't like it. Don't talk to them. They'll go crazy. But don't be violent against them. That won't work. Well, when they got Wise.
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Not wise.
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Yes. And I say that, I say that again, just to give personal testimony is a lawyer that's tried to help people that have done that and have tried to help people that have been abused physically by the police. How do we handle all this? Well, being wise as serpents, that means you gotta know something. You can't be wise, friends, unless you work at knowing something about what right the right way to react is. Again, our captain tells us. And the more you soak the word of God in mental sod, the more you're gonna be equipped. But if you're not doing that on a daily basis, remember, I said missus Brent listens to the Bible every day. We were talking just the other day. Well, I wanna encourage people to do that. I'm encouraging it here. Reading reading is good.
But in today's world, and it's been this way for decades, who has who can find time to be relaxed? You get up in the morning, you hit the deck running, and then you stop at night and collapse and wanna have a little time by yourself, and then you fall asleep. That's the way the devil wants it. That's that's why he's worked at this way. So what do you do? Well, reading isn't mandatory, but listening is. And in our day of modern technology, we can listen to the Bible. I recommend to you. I hate those people that read the Bible and have that background music. That's just distracting. Yeah. But the first man, the first man to read the Bible, all of the Bible and record it all, he read the King James Bible. It was back in the nineteen fifties. I'm trying to remember his name.
I like his recordings better than anybody that that's ever did. He used to do it. He did it over a period of years. One chapter at a time, it was a famous American actor, an actor. So he had spent his life working on his voice. Now somebody told me Charlton Heston had done the same thing. I, but I like this guy. I almost said his name, but you can look him up, but we have no excuse. We can find time to listen to the Bible while we work. While we drive, you can get apps on your cell phone. You can just punch them and listen and listen and listen. And if you're not disciplined to do it, just look at you. Oh, I'm afraid it'll be boring. Think of it like brushing your teeth. You do it before you go to bed. You don't feel like doing it every time you're so tired, bone tired. You wanna collapse, but you do it.
Taking a bath, taking a shower, same way. It's a matter of discipline, but you'll the the, the benefits of it are very satisfying, my friends. Listen to it. We talked about first John. Some people on this presentation. I said, read first John every morning when your mind is fresh, thirty days in a row, every morning, you'll be shocked at what you discover and you'll discover something more than one thing new every time you read it. And some of you did that and reported back said, I did that. Well, now what I want to say too, in addition to that, you can do that, but listen to it. Listen to it. Thirty days every day, every morning, thirty days. A lot of people listen to the beauty of technology. A lot of people listen to what we do on Patriot Soapbox.
And, I read the chat, they'll say, wow. I listened to Brent and got my whole kitchen cleaned up. You know, they'll be having their earphones on with their cell phone listening. And a Christian folk are the ones that have always been on the cutting edge of technology. I find that fascinating. The same was true with the printing press when it came out, and the same was true with the television, the BBC friends, the BBC, and people complain about the BBC. Now I'm a go read the mission statement, or my memory is that the mission statement of the BBC was to communicate the gospel of Jesus Christ.
That was the mission statement. Of course, they don't do that now. They do just the opposite. The mission failed. Mission failed. But my point being, the Christian folk wanted to try to do that. They tried it and it didn't work because as one fellow said, you can't really do a good job of communicating the gospel using images because it's too akin to idolatry. One of the founders of the BBC said that. He was a Canadian named, Malcolm Muggeridge. Malcolm Muggeridge. He said that I've discovered it's impossible to communicate the gospel of Jesus Christ using images on television. And that's what television is.
And that's something that he'd say that that's his conclusion. It is. Yeah. But radio, see, listen, Bible teaching occurs on radio before we had internet. It did not occur on television hardly at all. Some, but very little. A charismatic Christianity was on television. Why? Because they're attuned to pretty things. But Bible teaching exclusively was on Christian radio and it was everywhere in America. I could drive across America and I did a lot from, Terre Haute, Saint Louis West. There was no place I couldn't drive. If I'd start to lose a Christian station, I just adjust the dial a little bit and I could catch the next one. And it's still true.
But the Bible is not taught on television because it doesn't take much. I mean, people have tried it a little. I know. There used to be, good old time gospel hour with Jerry Falwell and all that and others, but it really took on radio. And as that one fella said that wrote a book well, best seller book back in the eighties called Amusing Ourselves to Death. Forget his name. He's professor of communications at New York University. And he opens the book with a quote from the Bible, And the quote was, it said this, when I spoke to you on the mountain, you saw no similitude. This is God speaking to the Israelites.
He said, you saw no similitude. A similitude that's King James. A similitude is a likeness, a similarity, an icon, an image, a picture, icon, or a idol, a statue. You saw nothing, but you only heard the sound of a voice. There's not a stronger statement in the Bible against against idolatry than that statement. And our God is the God that we cannot see. And he forbids. He made us in his image. The Bible says that he utterly forbids us to return the compliment and say, oh, here's what he looks like. A picture of Jesus, a statue, a crucifix.
So evil, evil, evil, all of those things. But yet we get sucked into it, and idolatry. So we need to hear the word of God. Faith, the Bible says, comes by hearing. There's another monumental statement against idolatry. The Shema of Israel or Deuteronomy six, They call it the Shema spoken the world over, has been for centuries, the creed. Here. Listen, oh Israel. Yehoah. He happens, our law giver, is one, is unit is unified, echad, law giver. Everything about him is consistent in the unity. A unity that's fundamental to Christianity. And the council of Chalcedon and Nicaea backed that up, although that's not the Bible. But they made it clear, yes, this is what the Bible teaches.
Well, Roger,
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are you still there in my book? I'm here. Yeah. I'm here. Question. Go
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ahead. Somebody else. Quest
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for Paul English?
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Paul English? Yeah. I'm still here.
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Hello.
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Hi.
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What the latest thing I heard about England was that some man some of some official type man said nobody can work if they don't have the digital ID. Did you hear that? What do you think about that?
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I think it's a jolly good idea. I can't wait. Yes. Sir sir Keir Starmer said that about two months back. And,
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you know, nudge nudge week to say no more. Is it is it half has it started happening?
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I think it started happening twenty five years ago, to be quite honest. I think the digital ID kind of, exists in all these different sort of, you just think about the way that you're tracked with your Internet usage. So it's just incremental. It's a little bit here and a little bit there so that people in the end go, oh, we're we're already in it anyway. So, I mean, if there is any work over here, yeah, none of us want any of these things, but, we're not allowed to speak. So it's a bit of a problem at the moment. But, yes, he did say that. No one's into it. There is I hear all sorts of things. There will be a big kickback and pushback against it, I'm assuming.
I'll be part of that. We're just gonna have to see what they get up to. But I think as they keep increasing the speed of all of these things, the positive is that more and more people are getting riled up, with ever increasing speed. So it's good. Normal people are going, I don't want that. And that's that's very powerful stuff. It's just very simple. No. We don't want any of this nonsense. So there's a lot of understanding that we don't want it, that we don't need it, that it's completely goofy, but they're able to get away with an awful lot of goofy things, unfortunately. We will see. We will see.
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Thank you. Galloway came up earlier. There Tucker just interviewed him. I watched it the other night. Have you heard all about that, Paul?
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Which one,
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is where he got stopped at got got Gathaway? Gathaway? What which airport that is? Coming back into the country, and they've got a new law that coming in in that situation, they can stop you and take all your electronic
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devices and stuff. Yeah. I saw I saw part of that interview. Did you? And he goes, well Piers Morgan that he was talking to, wasn't he? Piers Morgan?
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Is it Piers Morgan, though? No. No. No. It was Tucker.
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And, Yeah. Tucker talking to Piers Morgan.
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No. This was him interviewing George Galloway directly. Oh, alright. Okay.
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He mentioned the same thing when he was talking to Piers Morgan. Probably. He got pretty
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uptight about it. Well, this law allows him to stop you. Was it Gathaway Gathaway Airport? Gatwick. Gatwick. One of the big ones. And they can stop you and take all your electronic devices. You can't do anything about it. And they he says, well, you're you're not under is Amar under arrest. No. But you can't leave. You gotta stay. And I I gathered they went through all their electronic stuff and then let them go finally, but he's not coming back in the country. He was ticked.
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I don't blame him. It was a,
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yes. He came over here, and he I know he did an interview, yeah, with Piers Morgan, that wonderfully charming British artist Yeah. Yeah. Of media. Champion
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of freedom.
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Yeah. I mean, these guys are just so confident and know so little, and, they don't want to know either. So it's, yeah, that was quite telling. But, yeah, he mentioned that in that interview. You know, sort of like what's hap you know, the the gist of the interview was what's happened to England. Of course, Morgan seems to think it's all okay.
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Yes.
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Yeah. Yeah. And and, really, he's atypical of the actual problem. It's that. He typifies the root problem, which is, to me, it does anyway, an indifference of my supposed kith and kin to, to the outcome of the lives of everybody else because he's a wealthy man, you know, and they they talk about this as if they're part of the problem, but they're not. They and they'll never see it. I'm not even I'm slightly ticked off about it, but I shouldn't be. It's a waste of energy. They're not going to see it. They live in a bubble. And,
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it's just the fact that they're trying their time, You know? Right. That's right. That's right. That's right. That's right. Evidently by, bringing all these conservatives on. If he hasn't had him already, he's about to have Nick Fuentes on, who I'm I Nick Fuentes is is some sort of a phenomena at 26 years old to have the control, and knowledge and understanding of things to come out and pontificate the way he does. He's he's quite a phenomena. Okay? And Piers Morgan. But I I like, Say that again. He was what was it, Paul? Something like that. I like Piers Morgan.
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I I like him. I liked him a lot, particularly on Britain's Got Talent because he'd never said anything political on that show. It's the only place I liked him. I really liked it in Britain's Got Talent.
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Anyway, so he's, I heard Brianna, the new morning gal on Infowars, he's trying to get her on, and she turned him down. It really ruffled his feathers. So, anyway, interesting times developing.
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Yep. Very interesting. There was a there was an exchange, actually, a part of the, interaction between Piers Morgan and Tucker Carlson, where Carlson started to talk about I mentioned this last night. He started talking about the Red Indians. And, he made, what I think is a pretty accurate sort of comparison. He said, if you look at the Red Indians in America today, he said they're a defeated people. They've lost their way of life, all this kind of stuff, you know, which is true, I guess. I mean, I don't know the situation intimately. Of course, I wouldn't. But from a distance, that's what it has always appeared to be. And he said, I'm looking at the English, and I'm seeing a people in a similar state, which, of course, I found rather chilling, but it's true.
There's an aspect of that that's absolutely true. And and so the people of this nation are, running a great risk of losing a connection to the their store their story, our story as a people. Yes. Because you have to have one. You have to have a mythology about who you are because you have to you can't explain everything through 10,000 page history books. People don't read them for a start. So you need a shorthand version that's got to tell the story. Most people have grown up and known what it was, and, it compelled me to go off and read, I was talking about this last night, Scalp Dance by, Tom Goodrich. I don't know if you guys have ever read that.
It's it's the history of the of the winning of the West after the war between the states. Basically, the US army and settlers versus the Indians. It's an amazing book. Absolutely amazing. It it caused all sorts of new ideas to jump into my head and how basically, underinformed I am about that period of history. I also suspect that most Americans are, but you'll have to shoot me down if you think I'm being cocky from a distance because Well, nope. But I can't believe it. Something. We've got a great student. She's one of the original listeners from fifteen years ago, Kaye.
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She's written 19 or 20 or more Indian romance novels. Right. She goes back and researches all that stuff on all those tribes. I mean, she doesn't just do it lightly. She is tow totally involved and is quite knowledgeable about all those tribes in that Indian time back there. One of the ones that's particularly interesting is the Iroquois, which I think we're up in where Paul lives up that Northeast part of the country. But they had a well, some of our government was patterned after the way they did things in the tribe. K? And one of the interesting things that they had was before anything was activated as a law or something, it went through the try the tribunal or whatever of old women, not old men.
And, just interesting. But she's she's very knowledgeable on it, Kaye is.
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I suspect. I mean, I don't know. But if she read Tom's book, she'd probably never write another romance novel in her life. Oh, okay. It might be. I don't know. I don't know if you're familiar with her. It. Don't ruin your career. Don't ruin your career here, Paul. I mean, it it lays it it lays waste to the common notion of what was actually taking place. I mean, these people, if you wanna call them that, in in war conditions are horrific. It's horrific.
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Oh, yeah. And,
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you know, I was saying last night, I thought there is is there a requirement to actually make proper westerns about that period? I mean, you it will be triple x rated. It's It's just off the charts disgusting. It's it's absolutely foul. And, I it's it's not that long ago. This is the thing that gets Midoriya what? Not that long ago at all. And we've been sold the same story that you've been sold courtesy of all the Hollywood westerns and everything. It it wasn't like that. That's not what was going on. It's, an amazing story. There's obviously a massive description in there about the battle at Little Bighorn, which is, it's just riveting. The reason why the book is so good is that Tom really didn't write it. He he basically compiled it and glued it all together.
Mhmm. He's he's not even present as an author, which I think is brilliant. That's when you know it's good. It's all the notes written by the combatants in their diaries, in their letters to their wives, in interviews with newspapers afterwards. It's in their words, and it comes the impact of it is astonishing. I'm assuming I was saying last night that that most Americans will not be aware of that. The true nature of the whole thing, it's and, you know, the Indians did get defeated. And as I read the book, I went, good. How about that? I went, good. You don't want people like that behaving right. But, of course, I'm just a snotty Englishman on the other side of the world. But, generally, I couldn't find an ounce of sympathy for them at all, the way they behaved. It's just a it's mad. It's mad. It's unbelievable. It's like it's from a different era. It's like ten thousand years ago. Savages literally go, oh, they're the noble savage. I couldn't find too much nobility now. I've gotta tell you. I have to look hard for that. Man's inhumanity to man.
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You you make a point, Paul, that they lost. And I they were mistreated in many ways. I get that. Yeah. They were. But they lost. And I agree. I think this gal that, Roger's talking about that writes a novel, she's from the county just south of me. Right. And she quit listening because I talk about what the red man was. We can't call them Indians anymore because there's so many Indians around, you know, from India India. Mhmm. So the red man is a good way to say it, and I say it that way. I don't, apologize for it. We must make a distinction somehow. I know nothing wrong with being a red man. Of course, they're not red anyway any more than we're white. You know, we're just kind of a very light brown or something. You know? Well, yeah, she I haven't heard from her in a long time, but the last movie or one of the last movies, Hollywood used to depict it properly to some degree.
John Wayne's most famous movie, The Searchers, was about the brutality, the utter unfathomable brutality of the of the Apache and the no. The Comanche. The Comanche. They were related to the Comanche, but the Comanche. And when you read about what they did and hear about what they did, no. Like you say, you don't have any sympathy. There's a lot of ways to deal with problems, whatever the problem was. I mean, they didn't have chivalry was not part of their world. That's right. Yeah. That's the point. They rape It is the point. Yeah. Rape rape in front of, a woman's children and husband and then put out his eyes and then kill him. That was the way they dealt with intimidation was all they knew. And those Comanches, they weren't a big, ugly people. They were actually a very small people, and they were pushed around by everybody.
But in a world where force and violence are the only thing that matters, they finally got atop of horses, and then they became the lord of the plains. They were good. No question about that, but they knew they knew nothing of mercy. As a matter of fact, when I read again, I read the research. Fundamental to a lot of these tribes was pain. If they could inflict pain on other people, even themselves in some instances, they appeased God or their gods or whatever they called them in different places. It was different. Over just over 1,500 white I'm talking Caucasian, Europeans. Oh, just over 1,500 were roasted alive
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In Kentucky alone, and that's just what we have on record. They're probably double, triple that. We don't know. The Shawnee did not have mercy on anybody. As a matter of fact, they were the ultimate racist. Yes. Like all people are left to themselves, they think they're better than everybody else. I mean, the name Cheyenne, by the way I get it I'm not a linguist of their language, but the way I understand that the word Cheyenne, a prominent plains tribe, means human being. And so the all the other tribes, all the other tribes were animals, and all the white men were animals too. So we can do to them what we wanna do, kinda like the Talmud says. You know? I was gonna say, sounds familiar. Well, it's the same thing. The Japanese the Japs said the same thing during the war. If you're, European or if you're American or, you know, you're you're less than human, so we can torture you and kill you. That's alright.
Not we're not that way. We're we're, the true people. That's the danger of not having the Bible as an influence in your culture. I wanted to get to this while ago. We're talking I didn't maybe I did. I don't remember. But well, yeah. I did. I did. Okay. I covered that. I'm I'm good with it. Oh, back to you, Roger or Paul or somebody was Well, I was just gonna say there's a,
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in terms of there's a a particular event in the book. I can't remember the names of the two. They're not protagonists. They're actually friends. One's a US army colonel or something like that. And there's an Indian an elderly Indian warrior that he's known for a long time, and they have mutual respect. They've been at peace. They never fought one. And, of course, one of the things that you could discover is that many of the Indians sided with the white man because they had personal vendettas and scores to settle with other tribes. You their entire sort of culture was basically what they were doing to the white guys, what they used to do to one another before we rocked up. Can can you do the African slave trade?
Yeah. We could yeah. That kind of stuff. And they they're they're talking anyway, and it there's just this little incident in the book. And, this Indian says to him, he said, look, I hear all these reports from other Indians and other white guys. He said, and I don't believe any of this. It's all rubbish. He said, you're the only white guy that I know that's ever really always told me the truth. And if you tell me a thing, I think it'll be true. So I want to ask you a question. So he said, yeah. What was the question? He said, the reports I keep receiving from Braves and and other people that go up north, I don't know where they were, that go up north or go up to the Northeast, is, he said, that there are millions and millions and millions of white people. He said this cannot be true.
Is it true? And he said to him, he said, there are more white people up there than you have leaves on your trees in your territory. And at that point, this is the bit was the guy's face dropped. It's like, and the way it's written, it's as if he died at that moment. As soon as he got that this was the case, everything fell into place, and he knew they literally had no future because of the way that they've been carrying on, and that they were just outnumbered to such a colossal degree that it was absolutely hopeless, this situation. And it made me think about what's been happening in Europe, right, with the influx. This is a numbers game. It's just piling people in, piling them and piling. You've got the same thing now. I mean, I I suppose, I don't know if it's ironic. I don't know what word to use, but, you know, so you dealt with Indians a hundred and seventy years ago, and now it's you're gonna have to do it again.
And we're having to do it, and no one wants to do it. I don't know if I'm getting being too dramatic here. There's something there's something gone awry in the soul of the white man. It really is. I mean and maybe it's what Solzhenitsyn said about the Russians. The problem is he said, we've the Russians forgot God, and it's definitely a major part of this. There's no two ways about it. It's a major part of it. People have lost the rudder, the root of their story of who they are. And, of course, the churches have not been helping because they tell this blithering nonsense to people and have been doing it for a long time. Oh, everybody come in. It's all gonna be great. It won't be great. I mean, if the history books, anything to go by, you start mixing huge numbers of different races together on the same bit of territory. This is my take. You might not agree with it. I'm not aware of it ever ever turning out good for no one. All parties are impoverished by it because nature won't have it. It's as simple as that. No matter it just will not have it. And it and that's, you know, it's a major major problem, and I believe our mutual enemy across the whole of what we would call Christendom knows this. And that's why they've been at the forefront of always porting aliens into our home nations. Always. Oh, yeah. Absolutely. That's the right of their game. Yep.
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Malcolm X took the same position, and he said what he called the black man in America will never prosper until he gets he stays among himself and prospers himself because he said whitey, if he's infused among us, we'll take advantage of us. And that from his perspective, that was what he saw. But, by the way, Cassius Clay, later Muhammad Ali, had the same conviction. So will that happen? Well, I stand with those guys. I stand with them. It happened in Tulsa, Oklahoma, and they they put an abrupt stop stop to it. Yeah. Yeah. So the forced this is why forced busing was such a problem in America because there were a lot of folks said, oh, we know history a little bit. This won't work. And it didn't. It didn't work. Instead of things getting better, they got worse. So then but we struggle. We struggle.
For example, with, Roger and I have talked about separate but equal. The Supreme Court of the United States says separate but equal is inherently unequal. So we're abandoning that doctrine. That was Brown versus Board back in the fifties.
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And and what that what was really happening there, I've come to conclude, Brent, was that was the last stage of their whole agenda and plan. But they had to get rid and overcome Plessy versus Ferguson. Because you couldn't have the two statuses that open. So they did Brown versus Board of Education. It overturned Plessy. And as I was putting this together, of course, who who you remember who the attorney was for the NAACP for Brown? Thurman, wasn't it? Thurgood Marshall, who was after that appointed to the bench. And then as I was putting all this together one day, and it kept bugging me as a city, third of of '54.
1954. 1954. And it hit me sixty days to the day after the Brown decision, board Uh-huh. With the 1954 internal revenue code in place, it's still with us today. It, to me, is the capstone of their hundred and hundred plus year agenda.
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You know, I say Roger, thanks. I say and I've listened to, somebody mentioned oh, Paul mentioned, Tucker Tucker Carlson. Yes. Tucker Carlson, another famous news babe. I forget her name. She's kinda glitters Kelly. Megan Kelly. Yeah. Megan Kelly. Now they're saying, look. We're not racist. They have to say that a lot now. We are not racist, but we believe that we like to believe that, other people, should have whatever opportunity they can have, but we gotta take care of ourselves. And if we don't take care of ourselves as Americans, for example, and take care of our own culture, then other people aren't gonna stand a chance anyway.
It's up to us to be the leaders. Our culture is the culture that has made us who we are. Yes. We talked about the roots of it. We talked about, going back and talked about, Magna Carta, and and we can go much further than that and should to understand the the flow of this thing from Europe and the connection, the cons the consonancy it has with the Bible. I don't wanna say the consistency, but the consonancy, to make that distinction, and it does. It is compatible with consonant with the Bible. We have that history and to not know that is to forget about it and not think it's important.
It was said a while ago again, all you fellas there said it. I didn't say it. We talked about we must have our, I forget the words you use. I know our our mythology. Was that the word you used? Our history? Yeah. I did. Yeah. Mhmm. And and Paul, I said he he he put it in we must have it in brief form. So we learned these things in school in Scotland. You know, I was told when I was, younger that in Scotland, every Scottish school child reads about William Wallace. And, in England, of course, you read about all the stepping stones of English history. I'm sure the school children did there, and Paul can confirm or deny whether that's true. I know what they used to. They used to do that. I don't know what they do now, but it's probably nothing like what it is. About Islamic heroes now. Yeah. In America, when I was a boy in the grades, I went in the room and there was a picture of George Washington and and, Abe Lincoln on the other side. Now you say, well, I don't like Lincoln or I don't I think that's idolatry. Yeah. Yeah. I know all that too. I'm just making the point. They made they made sure we knew who those fellas were and some stepping stones in our history.
Not that these men are saints, but these are the stepping stones in our history to understand who we are and from whence we came. And when you go to the bible and God decides to establish a nation, how much time does he devote in that book we call the bible to tracing out where people come from and who they are? And the answer is most of it. For example, in the New Testament, the man that wrote more pages of the New Testament than any other man devoted his writings 190% to pure fact. No theology, no philosophy, and no opinions in his writings. More pages in the New Testament than any other man, and that was doctor Luke.
He wrote the gospel of Old Luke and Acts. It's pure fact. And he says right in the beginning of those writings, he's writing for a Roman official. He says, here's what happened. Here's the facts of how it happened. I'm just giving you the facts. That's really all he's saying. And he uses medical terms to describe what he's doing. Being a doctor, he used the in the first verses of Lukey, first four verse verses, he used the word autopsy and three other three other oh, he says he actually exculpates. He uses that word, I think. Those are Greek words. To describe this is pure fact. You go to the Old Testament, you have 70 chapters of nothing, but here's where you came from, Israel, starting with grandpa and grandma Adam and Eve, and here's how it happened. 70 well, 69.
And then in the seventieth chapter, which is the twentieth chapter of Exodus, what does he do? He gives them the ten first principles of law, the 10 Devarim, the 10 commandments as they're popularly called, but not until he had told them who they were. And if we as a people, do not know from whence we have come, we do not know where we are supposed to go. That's for sure. I'm quoting another fellow that people in the patriot community have demonized, but he made a good point when he said it. He said, that's Abe Lincoln. That's the Lincoln Douglas debates in Charleston. He said, if we do not know from whence we have come, we do not know from whence we go or from once or to whence we are going. Listen. By the time Lincoln was making those arguments, the whole question between him and judge Judge Douglas,
[02:54:09] Unknown:
There's a noise back there if somebody I'm sure it is, Paul. Can you identify that by any I I hear it too.
[02:54:15] Unknown:
Sound like somebody's rinsing dishes or something. The the question between him and judge Douglas, and they narrowed it down over over the course of seven debates around Illinois, from Chicago clear down to Cairo, Saint Louis, and all places in between, that the question was the free soil doctrine. What is the free soil doctrine? Paul Paul, you referenced it a while ago. You said land. I forget how you tied it in, but I thought to myself at the time, that's the free soil doctrine of our common law. And the free soil doctrine of our common law says this. Initially, it said, if anybody's foot touches the soil of this island home we call England, regardless of their former conditions of servitude or slavery, their their sleigh or their their their chains drop.
Their shackles drop from their body and they are ipso facto forever free. That's the free soil doctrine. If your foot touches the soil. And the question in America was at that time, does our common law apply here? What is the common law? It is fundamentally the Free Soil doctrine. The free soil doctrine. Does the free soil doctrine apply on this side of the Atlantic like it does in England? And there were cases decided in the courts that asked that question and answered that question in America. There were two two seminal cases. One of them was the, the called the Somerset case of a man from a slave jurisdiction, namely Virginia, who traveled to England with his slave, whose name was Somerset. He was an African slave.
And this African slave somehow got it in his head, I don't know how, about the free soil doctrine. And once his foot touched the pier on the land, he got rabbit in his blood and disappeared. And so they went looking for him, finally found him. And he said, hey. I'm free. I'm in England. This is a free jurisdiction, the free soil doctrine. And so they jailed him until they could decide. None other than lord Mansfield was on the case. Scotsman by the name of Murray, who they renamed rechristened lord Mansfield, And he studied it out and he said, our common law in our island home, our common law has never allowed slavery.
In fact, he said slavery has never been lawful in England. Slavery has been tolerated, but it's never been lawful. And he said the only place you could possibly find it would be if you found some positive decree or statute, and I haven't found any. Therefore, the free soil doctrine is alive and, this slave named Somerset is free. Well, that's the Somerset case. So we come to America. Now this has to do with Abe Lincoln. Abe Lincoln was one of the lawyers representing the slaveholder, by the way, the slaveholder. Oh, that was a habeas corpus case, habeas corpus in England. That's how that happened.
So there was a man in Kentucky, and every year, he'd cross over the Ohio and then the Wabash, or he could've come straight across the Ohio from a place in Kentucky, a town called Bourbon Bourbon, Kentucky. And he had land on the North Side of the Ohio that was much richer, and he farmed it every year. And he left a slave caretaker there. And the slave caretaker this is in Illinois, Coles County, where the dirt's as black as the ace of spades and so rich, it won't even grow trees, but it'll grow corn and some other things. Won't grow tobacco, though, or hemp, but corn. Yeah. Well, he'd go up there, and the slave caretaker stayed there. And every year, he'd come up for planting, tending, and stay till harvest, then he'd go back to Kentucky.
But he'd come up with this caretaker's wife and four children. Her name was Mary and his their name was Bryant. They were two slaves married and had four children. So he'd bring her up, and they'd put the crop in, tend the crop, and then get it out in the fall. And then he'd take Mary and the four children and go back to Kentucky, get this, with his Irish his Irish maid. In those days, they called them Bridget. She was an Irish immigrant, and, of course, they got jobs as slaves because or as, maids. Yeah. Maids. Well, he went up with his Irish maid, and who knows what was going on there. And his Irish maid got crosswise and, with Mary Bryant.
Mister Bryant, he was a slave, got crosswise with her in the kitchen, like who was in charge type thing. And this Irish maid, this Bridget said to Mary, said, if you don't do what I tell you in the kitchen, I'll tell your master, and he'll sell you down the river. Well, that scared the bejeebies out of her because in Kentucky, the slaves a lot of places and Missouri and Tennessee, the slaves had a a membership, a de facto membership in the family. They were well cared for and and trusted, by the way. Oh, he entrusted his whole farm to this slave up in Illinois.
Well, Mary got scared, took her four children, gathered them up, and hightailed out of Oakland, eight eight miles to the south to a place called Ashmore, a stage stop. And Gideon Ashmore, named after him, owned the inn there at the stage stop. And he knew a fella at Oakland that was a abolitionist, and he was a doctor, and his name was Rutherford. And he told Rutherford about it, and Rutherford got him and kept him for a while and, had them in his basement. And that house is still sitting there, by the way. The Rutherford Rutherford House, they call it at Oakland. Little tiny settlement.
Well, then the slave owner, his name was Madsen, he went to the sheriff of the county and said, I want my property back. So the sheriff knew Rutherford was sympathetic to the slaves, so he went to Rutherford, asked him if he knew anything about it. He said, yeah. I got him in the basement. So he took him and took him to the jail at the county seat. And then the slave owner went to the county seat to get him, but Rutherford went to the county seat too, and he filed a writ of a petition for a writ of habeas corpus. That's a petition, a request to the judge that he issue an order to the jailer to bring the bodies, habeas corpus, bring the body, corpus, the body of the prisoner before the court and prove that the jailing is lawful. That's part of our common law tradition, by the way, friends, and it's called the great writ in our common law tradition.
Really, really important, by the way. Well, Lincoln was in town in that county seat at that time. He traveled the circuit, and he'd pick up legal business as a lawyer from town to town. As the entourage moved, the judges moved in the circuit, the lawyers moved with him, and he did that. And I think it's the seventh circuit, and it was a large one covered several counties. Kinda like in England, the old days, they called it the ambulatory king. That's why the crown in England still goes from a state to a state with the seasons. That's an old habit to come from a time when the courts the king took the courts and brought justice to everybody. And that's an old Germanic custom, by the way, in the Scandinavian and Germanic tribes.
Of course, it became undoable, and that's why Magna Carta then said that the court of common pleas will be put in a fixed place and not moved because people couldn't find the court. They were got out of hand. But, anyway, they were doing that in the American West, and and that was the American West at that time. And Lincoln, the the slave owner came to Lincoln and said, I want you to represent me. He agreed to represent him to try to get his slaves back. And, the other lawyer, Linda, on the other side, a friend of Lincolns, was in town, and he rep Lincoln represented the slaveholder, and he represented Mary Bryant and her four children, the slaves.
Lincoln argued a structural problem. He said this is not a subject for habeas corpus, but Linder argued the free soil doctrine of our common law. And he cited the Somerset case of the the slave that was England that was free as precedent, and he said the same thing applies to the soil of the state of Illinois that applies to England. If a slave comes here and their foot touches the soil, they're free. Well, slavery had occurred all over the Northeast and all over Illinois and was just part of the culture, but it was not consonant with our common law tradition. That's why slavery was such a problem in America because, England said that America is the common law doesn't apply here. That's what Black Stone says in his commentaries.
That's why we went to war with Britain. Well, if the common law doesn't apply, said the people in the South, then we can have slaves. That's what the the wealthy elite and slave traders said. Well, after the arguments, the court, the Supreme Court justices came down from the state capital to hear the case. Biggest thing that happened downstate all over the Midwest, and there was a crowded around the walls in the courtroom, and they heard the arguments, and they issued their decision and freed Mary Bryant and her four children on the spot. That's the free soil doctrine. Of course, the rest of the story didn't turn out so good, and I have it on the testimony written of a man who went to Liberia in Africa where Mary Bryant went with her children.
She went to Liberia, immigrated, and found her living there with her children and mister Bryant in utter squalor. She'd have been better off to stay here. Yes. Yeah. That's what happened there. But, the free soil doctrine is fundamental to our common law. We don't call it the law of the land for nothing. That's our common law tradition. The other name for it, Magna Carta, quoting chapter 39, and we quoted it a while ago, except by the law of the land. That, in Latin, lex terum. The law of the land was our was the other name for our common law, and that was the other name for due process. Due process, our common law, law of the land are all three synonyms for the same thing.
Our common law is not about outcome standards like the 10 commandments. Our common law is about process. When this galute over there from Africa or wherever he's from said that we're gonna get rid of jury trial, what's he tampering with? He's not tampering with outcome standards. Thou shalt not covet, lie, steal, commit adultery, or murder. No. No. He's tampering with due process, friends. Mhmm. You know what God says in the Bible to I'll tell you. I say this again as a testimony just having my head in the Bible for a lot of decades. There are words in the Bible, a lot of words that refer to due process. They're not properly translated, but they're they occur hundreds of times.
And once you get a sense of it, I, I'm I retranslate them due process, course of process, fair play. There's another word for our common law, fair play. Process due and owing. Process due and owing is another one of yours. Process due and owing. But when you talk about fair play, you're talking about how we go about doing things. Not what, but how. That's why I'd said a while ago, respect. This is chivalry. This is what Marshall set front and center in England that has been so powerful in our tradition that we have order. We understand the Basileo, the kingdom of God. The kingdom of God is his dispensing of spheres of jurisdiction that we don't tamper with the other fellow. We tip tip the hat to the other guy and his responsibilities. We don't get in his way, and we don't let him get in our way either. In other words, if you're given responsibility from your maker, with that responsibility, that's a duty, comes the unfettered duty to defend your jurisdiction.
Jurisdiction. The sphere of jurisdiction. Your duty. God has given that to you, dispensed it to you. We teach classes at the law school. Sheriff Darleaf teaches with me. I like to have him there because I can use him as an example of our common law over and over. Sheriff Darleaf has a duty. Who gave it to him? Well, all authority and jurisdiction of his lawful comes from God, Romans 13. But did he get it direct from God? No. He got it from the militiamen of his county called the posse. When you're talking about the militiamen of a county at common law, you're talking about the power of the county, the posse comitatus. They're the ones that gave it to him. It came from God. Yes. He's the source, but the militiamen gave it to him. So he got it indirectly.
Therefore, his position at sheriff, the president of The United States position, the governor of your state, they didn't get it direct from God. Even the king of England, Charlie, he didn't get it direct from God. No, no, no, no, no. And you can watch when they coronated him. They may have said he got it direct from God, but he didn't. According to the common law, the house of lords had to okay it by the advice and consent of the gray heritage senile men called the Senate. We say in America, they have to okay it. House of Lords okayed it. Okay. Now that's indirect authority, you see. But it is from God, but it's indirect. So it's not a fundamental right. It's not a fundamental duty. Well, what about the right to keep and bear arms? Is that direct from God? Yes.
That's a fundamental duty. By the way, it's a part of the English bill of rights. Our bill of rights is fashioned after the English bill of rights of 1690 whatever, sixteen ninety something, I think. You can go look it up way back there. But that those are fun a lot of those are fundamental rights in our bill of rights. That means they come direct from God. There is no intermediary between us and the maker of heaven and earth. As John Wycliffe said, we worship God under the vault of heaven and our duties, our fundamental duties come direct from him, such as the duty of being a husband, the duty of being father. That didn't come from the state or from the government. The the the duty to govern your tongue, to speak or not to speak, the right to remain silent, freedom of speech. That didn't come from the government.
That came direct from God and government, as our courts have said, have no authority to interfere. No authority to interfere. Well, that's the free soil doctrine, the law of the land, our common law, and that's why we think it's important. One more point I want to make and then I better go. We did bring up a while ago. Oh, Paul brought it up. In inadvertently well, indirectly, when we're talking about getting rid of the jury, we're talking about they're saying we're backlogged by 80,000 cases in England and Wales, and therefore justice is what? It's delayed.
Justice is delayed. And our common law has always said justice delayed is justice denied. For a lot of reasons that it takes years to come to grips with, but it's true. By the way, that arises from Magna Carta. We talked about chapter 39, the very next statement. The very next statement of Magna Carta is about justice. It says justice shall not be delayed. It's part and parcel. We have it in our constitution of The United States. It says that every man has a fundamental right to a speedy trial. That's one of those rights we've never realized in America. We're backed up in our courts too, because people would rather give out welfare than they would have justice, which is more important.
[03:11:43] Unknown:
God help me. The thing the I the irony, Brent, is these 80,000 cases, I Yeah. Was made aware of this six months ago, this backlog Uh-huh. Could be easily and speedily dealt with by trials by jury.
[03:12:00] Unknown:
Uh-huh.
[03:12:01] Unknown:
Okay. That's how you deal with it. That's how you deal with it. That's how you deal with it. Uh-huh. You just let's get go let's So what this is this would involve, in in my case, English men and women being selected for jury duty and crack on with it. And it's quick. It's quicker than this stuff we've got now. It's just that they can't control it. This is all about this control of things. So you wanna get rid of the 80,000 backlogs? That's fine. Let's set up 2,000 courts. We'll get it done in two years, and let's crack on. Exactly. We'll do a case every three days after Piffle and Nomsen.
[03:12:36] Unknown:
That's what Rick was saying when we first started discussing it. Is that exactly your solution?
[03:12:40] Unknown:
Yeah. We need we we do have a barrier. We need more trial by jury. We need only trial by jury. Yes. It's not it's judges. The judge is a referee, isn't he? He's just supposed to be there to make sure that the the processes are dealt with correctly. He's like, this is the rules of conduct in the court, but I'm not here to make a decision. He shouldn't be called a judge. He's like, what is he? A convener. That's it. Oh, she is. And then we'll do it. Thanks very much. We don't need you to tell us, but, of course,
[03:13:07] Unknown:
I assumed that we do. You get in that situation. You and, of course, a little bit on on the fringe, but you get your honor, if you wanna call him that. Are you an independent trier of facts, or are you a party to the action?
[03:13:21] Unknown:
You know, over here, they don't they don't allow themselves to be addressed as your honor much anymore. Do you know that? Because true. Because they know that they're not in honor. The honor of It's a big deal. Well, what do you call them? What do you call them? I don't know. Judge, I suppose, or something. I can't remember the name. This was at this meeting a couple of weeks ago. They hardly ever called them your honor because they're not in it. William Marshall was. They're not in honor because they're not on their oath. They're not in anything. They're just administrators of a private system of deceit as you well know. So so they don't even they don't even call them your honor anymore. I understand. That's a myth.
[03:13:57] Unknown:
Sir, sir, possibly, or something like that. Sir, madam, that'd be good.
[03:14:01] Unknown:
What I know about it, I got from Rumpole of the old Bailey. Remember Rumpole? Yep. Well, Rumpole, when he was in court, he'd always say, your lordship.
[03:14:12] Unknown:
So I thought that's the way they did it. There you go. Yeah. Yeah. But they don't call him your honor anymore because they're not in it. They're not in honor. There's a technical definition of what it is, and they're not in it. They're they're in a state of dishonor, literally. That's what there is. I understand what you're saying. You know, I have an answer. And they know it, so they don't wanna lie. At least they've got integrity about the fact that they're liars. They're at least honest about that. They love liars. Go ahead, Brent.
[03:14:38] Unknown:
Oh, I've, we're gonna tell another story. The reason I tell these stories is because it helped me keeps them on the top of my consciousness, and sometimes I need them. But my granddad on my mother's side ran for justice of the peace. We had justice of the peace. You know, you have to be a lawyer to run for justice of the peace. You handle smaller cases. You know? And and, there was a fella at a big house. He was a lawyer and his we all called him Judge Williams. He I don't think he was a judge, but that's what everybody called him. He had a lot of money and he thought he was quite something. And, he was a Republican.
My granddad, they were from the South, so they were Democrats. They were from Kentucky. And, the whole family and grandpa ran as a Democrat, and judge Williams never liked him much. And, my granddad's brother is an auctioneer. His name, John Will Henry. And he on the sale bills, you know, in America to be an auctioneer after the war between the Northern and the Southern tiers of the states, the carpetbaggers came and most of them, it was the Jewish element that came and broke up, had auctioneer or auctions in the South, but they weren't regulated. Well, when the union occupied, they said there's too much abuse going on. And if you're gonna be an auctioneer, abuse going on. And if you're gonna be an auctioneer, you have to be at the rank, army rank of colonel or above. You you can run the auction.
You can get an auctioneer, but you gotta run it. So the habit came that if you're an auctioneer in our part of the world, you called yourself colonel. And when the sale bill came out for a farm sale or something, it'd say on it, the bottom list, all the stuff that was gonna be there. And then it'd say auctioneer colonel John Will Henry Hudson. And, Judge Williams saw my granddad was running for office. Now grandpa told me this. I wasn't there when it happened. He said Williams didn't like him. He goes, hey, well, different parties. And he said, what's all this I see about your, your brother being a Colonel and all that kind of stuff. He said, what's that supposed to mean? And I saw it on the sale bill. What's that supposed to mean? And grandpa said, well, it's kinda like when they call you your honor, it doesn't mean much at all.
Well, that's what, that's what, Paul's saying. The judges apparently are being honest and saying we're not honor, honorable at all. And when you, but you said also, You also said they're not even on oath. Now that shocks me a little bit. Now here in America, you're supposed to put a judge under everybody that said in the government, state and federal, supposed to take an oath to support and defend the constitution of The United States. Or I assume that there you take an oath to somebody or something, don't you?
[03:17:25] Unknown:
There's well, they used to, but this is where I mean, I'm at my depth with all this sort of detail, but I understand that if you confront them on that, they will often leave the court. There are there's footage of this happening over the last ten years. But, no, the whole thing is a private business. And when you actually start to say these sentences, you are pulling it back into the actual law, not legality. And, at least they're honorable to leave the court because because they're not standing in law. They're standing in in their legal game, you know. But I've got to go, I'm afraid. I I do have to say goodbye because it's twenty past seven, and my stomach is telling me that I've got to put something in it. Same place.
So I've I've gotta go and do that. Always. But I've really I've really enjoyed it. Pleasure. We don't get to do it often enough. Thank you for coming by and spending some time with us. It's been nice listening to you and to you, Brent. Really enjoyed it. Thank you. Hey, Brent. Yep. Alright. Cool. Yeah. Thanks, Brent. No. We didn't. Yep. I'll I'll try and pop in one more time before the year's out. It's nearly out, isn't it? Yeah. For sure. It's pretty close. Getting pretty close. It is. So Hey, Brent. Everyone. Bye for now.
[03:18:38] Unknown:
Thank you, Paul. Love you, buddy. Take care. Alright. Brent, you gotta go too. I'm not too far behind you. Anybody else got a quick question?
[03:18:47] Unknown:
Yeah. I did. Can you hear me?
[03:18:50] Unknown:
Yes.
[03:18:52] Unknown:
Hey. Thank you, both of you, for the show today. I so, Trent, I have two things.
[03:19:03] Unknown:
This is the man this is the man with the new from the New Jersey with the New Jersey accent that lives in Arkansas.
[03:19:09] Unknown:
Yeah. It's him. A man of
[03:19:12] Unknown:
few words. Well, Massachusetts.
[03:19:14] Unknown:
I'm sorry. Yeah. We label him a man of few words. Go ahead.
[03:19:18] Unknown:
I'm not gonna I'm not gonna, debauch the show by saying how most people say it because it's not, not good. Anyway, it's a ship high in transit, you know, the last part of Massachusetts. Anyway, so I have two things, Brent. Thank you for entertaining this. When you were telling the story about the two women and that whole controversy, it reminded me of Abraham and Sarah and Hagar because it was to me, it was very similar situation. Two, wives, two, etcetera. Sarah was Abraham's wife. Hagar was Sarah's handmaid, etcetera. Issachar, her son, Abraham's son, threatened Isaac.
Okay? Uh-huh. So that's all I wanna say about that. It reminded me of that. But the the last thing I wanna say is, regarding all this, integration, migration, whatever you wanna call it, I look at this what I think I see, anyway, my opinion is all these, you know, Britain, United States, Canada, Australia, what I see going on, I think, is a fulfillment of Revelation 12 verse 15, which says, and the serpent cast out of his mouth water as a flood after the woman. So I I deem the woman to be Israel, the wife of the father or the Messiah, that he might cause her to be carried away from the flood.
And from my studies, waters, which would, a flood would come from waters are really talking about people just as many times trees are speaking about people. So that's all I have to say.
[03:21:56] Unknown:
Okay, Doug. Thank you. Brent, thanks again, buddy. Great show today. Good to have Paul drop by, and it's just a unique little chemistry we've got here. And I really appreciate it, and I think everybody else does also. Love you, bro. We'll see you next Friday. Brent already left? K. Well, then I am about to do the same thing. Oh, he's there. He's just muted. Oh, he's He must be snacking.
[03:22:25] Unknown:
Yeah. But can I speak something? Down, Brent.
[03:22:28] Unknown:
Yes.
[03:22:30] Unknown:
Yes. Who is the little female there? It was myr. It was
[03:22:34] Unknown:
myr. Yeah. It's Alexander S d o u r b y, and there is a channel on YouTube. The, he completed reading the whole Bible in 1953. It's eighty four and a half hours, and it was on long playing records. And it was for talking books for the blind, and he considered that his most important work. Yeah. He was a radio voice actor. And, so I'll send you that link.
[03:23:01] Unknown:
I remember I've heard his name before now. It it registers with me from somewhere.
[03:23:06] Unknown:
I think you were supposed to be. Yeah. Bam. Yeah. Yep. Thanks.
[03:23:10] Unknown:
Brent, thank you, buddy. Yep. And, another pleasurable show. Just where could anybody else get all of this kinda input and history and background in one spot? Yes. Who was hello? Is that you, Chris?
[03:23:29] Unknown:
No. No. It's it's Oliver. I I just was listening to Oliver. I I I Hey, man. How are you doing? Fire up. How you doing?
[03:23:37] Unknown:
Good. Did you just get to hear some of Paul? He just left.
[03:23:42] Unknown:
No. No. I I I actually did, but I I didn't wanna interrupt anyone. It was it was all gold. You know? I I didn't wanna interrupt anybody who's talking. I didn't wanna I I didn't wanna I mean, it was great. I'm sorry it ended. Yeah. Yeah. No. It was all very good. It was great stuff, you know, and even, Paul as well from England as well. Yeah.
[03:24:01] Unknown:
Yeah. That's why I was, asking. So good to have you back. I've been calling for you. Lisa said you work, opposite the show, and maybe you can come join us tomorrow, and we can get more, background laid down stuff because, yeah, I find it fascinating that you've joined us. And I was, wanting to find out more. So, anyway, glad you came back. Brent, this this Oliver fellow I was talking about earlier right here, our our Irish friend. So Hi, Oliver.
[03:24:31] Unknown:
How are you doing, Brent? Thanks a lot for your I I I like your I I I love your, you're very accurate from from what my knowledge of biblical things. I come from a Catholic background, and and I I appreciate what you're saying. It's it's it's amazing. Yeah. It's very accurate, I have to say. Well read.
[03:24:49] Unknown:
Oh, baby.
[03:24:50] Unknown:
We hear the IRA is starting to flex their muscles again over there on this migrant situation. Are you on top of that, Oliver?
[03:25:01] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No. There is a bit of flex in there, but you you know what though? The, you know, speaking from friends and growing up in Ireland, the the the IRA was infiltrated many years ago, you know, sadly. Like all organisations are infiltrated. And, yeah. Sad. But but but there is there is offshoots, as you say,
[03:25:21] Unknown:
coming to prominence now. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I know. Very true. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I just heard the comments in the last day or two. Well, I was you know, you get to thinking how far is they gonna let it go before somebody stands up. You know? So, anyway,
[03:25:38] Unknown:
but glad you joined us today. I'm starving too. I know Brent was about ready to go, and I hate to leave when you've just showed up. But, Lisa said you No. No. No. It's fine. No. No. It's fine. No. It's fine. It's fine. I I just I wanted to wait till everyone was finished talking. I I just I I just have a quick talk. Yeah. I can I can I'll I'll be listening tomorrow again and and yeah? Yeah. Yeah. No. No. It's just, I I I listened to your radio show yesterday, and I missed you when you left. And, obviously, I just wanna call it the end of it. I I loved your, your your your story about living in South America. Was it great to hear a lot of that was a great show yesterday as well. Very good. It was. It was very good yesterday. You're right.
[03:26:15] Unknown:
So thanks. We're glad you come back, and and we'll look forward to maybe yakking tomorrow a bit. Brent, you had something to say?
[03:26:22] Unknown:
No. No, Brent. Thanks a lot. Buddy. Mitch. Yeah. Thank you, Oliver. Bye bye. We'll be talking. Thank you. See see you again. Thanks a lot. Have a great day. The rest of your day. Thanks. Bye. Alright. We'll rejoin. I'm gonna enjoy a lunch here.
[03:26:35] Unknown:
And, so great show today. Thank everybody. Brent will look forward to seeing you next Friday, and Oliver will look forward to seeing you tomorrow. K? And everybody else, everybody else too. So, until then, ciao ciao.
[03:26:53] Unknown:
Hey. Well, Roger just talked out. Thank you, Brent. Great show today. I missed some of it because I was running around doing things, but great show today. Now you should get yourself something to eat for you Pause, Bruce. For you before you expire. Pause. One second. Bruce, go for it.
[03:27:19] Unknown:
Yes. Now this was a gentleman's discussion. One didn't speak over the other. That was a beautiful, beautiful broadcast. Thank you.
[03:27:31] Unknown:
Well, except for the couple of comments I made. I was trying to trying to, you know, dig a shoehorn in there, and I wound up speaking over Raj a little bit. And then, thank you. Appreciate it. Now I didn't have an opportunity to set up the show before the show started, so Pod Home was not actually recording the show. So I've been recording it locally. I did stream it on Pod Home, but, the the AI engine is is not going to be gonna have access to this show. So I will be uploading a local recording to it, so it it should come up peanuts. Who is the lady out there that, was trying to get in?
[03:28:16] Unknown:
That was me, and that was my question. But it's on Rumble too and probably other places. Yeah. Yeah. It's yeah. It's on Rumble.
[03:28:23] Unknown:
It is you it is on the PodHome ice cast server, but you'd have to get to where it is now using the GVN on PodHome link on the matrix docs, which nobody knows, of course. But, yes, I have made a local recording. Yes, I will be uploading it, and AI will fully process the file just like usual. Oh, sorry. Sorry. I I, sorry I was distracted this morning. I I had 15 below last night, and I woke up at 62 degrees. And when I was trying to warm the house up, it went from 62 to 64, and then I ran out of propane. So I had to I had to deal with that. So anyways.
So if that's that's the case, here we go. Let's do this. This has been the Radio Ranch with Roger Seals, the Friday edition with Brent Allen Winters on Global Voice Radio Network, eurofolkradio.com, radiosoapbox.com, and radioorrumble.globalvoiceradio.net. Our website is thematrixdocs.com. Thematrix,docs,.com. You can find links to free conference calls. You can join us live on the show, interviews, resources, exhibits, books, all kinds of links, downloadables. It's a veritable plethora of information, and I know I pronounced that wrong. Someday, I'll get it right. I'm Paul from Global Voice Network and the Radio Ranch. Thanks for joining us, and we can't wait to see you back next time. Ciao.
Blasting the voice of freedom worldwide, you're listening to the Global Voice Radio Network.
[03:30:32] Unknown:
Bye bye, boys. Have fun storming the castle.
Thing up on Pod Home, but it should let me, connect. Yes. It did. Alright. Here we go. Let's do a Radio Ranch something.
[00:00:12] Unknown:
Here we go, kids.
[00:00:16] Unknown:
Yeah. Better late than never.
[00:00:38] Unknown:
Well, Alvin, as would we, and we're gonna make another attempt out of here on the December 5, which means Brent Winters is along for the ride. I think I see that he showed up there a minute ago. Roger Sales and Brent Winters, your cohost here, and, it is the Radio Ranch, the label of our little two hour get together. Of course, Fridays are special because Brent's with us. And, Paul, could you be so generous as to, identify the people that help us extend our reach so we can give them proper credit and recognition?
[00:01:16] Unknown:
I can do that. The list is abbreviated. It's, short but distinguished. It is eurofolkradio.com. Thanks to pastor Eli James, Global Voice Radio Network. That's my pet project. We are on Rumble. A little last minute start, but rumble.globalvoiceradio.net is where you'll find us there. We're on radiosoapbox.com. Thanks to our buddy Paul English, who said he was really, really, really gonna try and show up today. So we should keep him live out for him in Zoom. Is that a threat? Is that a threat or a promise? Well, he showed up last week, but Brent was on such a roll, he didn't wanna interrupt. So he just kinda sat there and listened.
[00:01:58] Unknown:
But we're also I'm not feeling, by the way.
[00:02:01] Unknown:
Yes. We're all also on soapbox.tv or soapboxtv.net, I believe, and, our website is thematrixstocks.com, where you'll find links to free conference call to join us live on the show. Thank you so much, Raj. Good morning. I have to actually run back to Tractor Supply and pay for the propane I just got, so I will be stepping away for a few minutes. Okay. Alright. Hell, I hope nothing. Long johns on. Well well, well, it's it's actually above zero now, but it was 15 below overnight, and my propane tank ran out this morning. And my house was, like, 62 degrees, and the cat was going,
[00:02:43] Unknown:
warm me up. Right, jerk. Daddy, where's my sweater?
[00:02:47] Unknown:
Where's my heat? Where's my heat?
[00:02:51] Unknown:
Yeah. She doesn't want food anymore. She just wants to eat. Sweater. Oh, yeah. I can appreciate that. Okay. Well, go do about your your your business, and, hopefully, the store you gotta go to is not too far away.
[00:03:05] Unknown:
No. It's right next door. Oh, okay. Good. Well, that's okay then. Pretty pretty sure. Store, but my card didn't go through, and it was last minute. It was I was running late for the show. I said, dude, can I bring the card over in, like, fifteen minutes and pay it? And he said, yeah. No problem. Because he knows where I live. Where you live. Yeah. That's okay.
[00:03:25] Unknown:
Yeah. Alright, Paul. Well, then did you identify any folks or not? I not I everybody that needed to be identified was. I just identified. Okay. Well, that's how It's all good. Solution for this morning's, and there I'm surprised there weren't any more technical errors. They usually heap those on top of everything. Go get your business done so you can stay warm the rest of the day. And, hopefully, tonight, because I'm I would think it's gonna be about that cold tonight again. Yikes. I hope I never see 15 below again the rest of my life. So, anyway, Paul, thank you very much.
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Yes? Should be a little warmer tonight. It's supposed to be 30 tomorrow, but today is just gonna kick my butt. So I see. Okay.
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Well, we'll keep our, our, eye open for the Yorkshire Rose there when he shows up. Hopefully, he will. There we go. Haven't spoken with the boy in a while. I'd like to ask him a question on something I heard about yesterday. I think Brent, you're you're there. Right? Morning, Brent.
[00:04:26] Unknown:
Yes. I'm here.
[00:04:28] Unknown:
I got kind of a bombshell for you. You know, I'd like to ask Paul about it. I just heard it on a show yesterday. Some minister, I wish I knew which one, over there has eliminated jury trials.
[00:04:45] Unknown:
Oh,
[00:04:46] Unknown:
well, let's let's check it out. Did you look look it up? No. I didn't. I just heard the comment yesterday. It was on Infowars. They're usually very credible. And, no. I didn't look it up, but that was the story. And I don't know which minister did it, but, that would be a that would be a seminal event, wouldn't it?
[00:05:05] Unknown:
Oh. Oh, no. That's yeah, that'd be, that that would sweep into the dustbin of a few thousand years of history. Now let's see. Oh, here it is. The the fella is I'm looking. Yeah. I've got it right here. Right to jury trial in England and Wales to be restricted. And the the minister here, it looks like an African. He's not a he's not a brown man. He's a black man. Whoever he is, I don't keep up with that stuff. AP News, UK government plans to scrap some jury trials and attempt to clear a court backlog. You see? Oh. Here we are again. Necessity is the plea of every infringement of human liberty. We can't help it. We have to. The right let me read this. The right to jury trial will be pared paired back in Britain in an attempt to clear a backlog of cases clogging the justice system.
Secretary David Lammy said overload and delay has created emergency in our course at risk collapse of our justice system. UK has struggled to clear the backlog since COVID nineteen. The government says there are 80,000 cases waiting to be heard in criminal courts in England and Wales Wales. Under the changes, crimes will likely sentence with a likely sentence of three years or less will be tried for a judge alone. Now, here's the remedy to this, and you'll make more money. You become more wealthy if you have a backlog. We have a backlog here. Always have had. Of course. All you need to do is, create more positions for judges, pay them, and then have more courts and impanel more juries.
People say, oh, that's we're litigus. We don't know. That's not the answer. The answer is you'll you'll have more wealth if you provide if the government provides what they have always called justice. If they don't provide justice, everything will fall apart. People need closure on their disputes, and the only thing that's left if you don't have jury trials is bullets. What else is there? And that people will resort to violence. That's what happens anyway, but why make it worse? Yeah. So the courts, I can say that, having experienced having been a plaintiff, having been a defendant, and having represented both, there is no value that you can put on trial by jury.
We say having closure and speedy justice as we've always said, justice delayed is justice denied, which means resolution of a real case in controversy delayed is denial of justice. Mhmm. So we go into court now. I've experienced this all my life too, and you just drag on and on and on and on and on. And the courts let the lawyers drag on and on and on. Justice isn't quick. You know, the Bible says that, if justice isn't speedy, the wicked get wickeder. In other words, they think, well, nothing's gonna happen anyway. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. And this and it discourages those that are right headed on any given point. Thank you. You know? And it's not that we always get get the the jury or the judge always gets it right, but at least you got a shot in a common law like ours. Go ahead, Roger. Isn't that what we're dealing with right now? No question. No indictments. No nothing? Yeah. Did you Leticia James,
[00:08:45] Unknown:
got got, acquitted by the grand jury, by the way. And Yeah. And I just heard an attorney being interviewed by. She said, nope. They can't do anything about it. She won. Yeah. And all that does is embolden
[00:08:59] Unknown:
them. Okay. So we get I I get it. So we get the grand jury has acquitted this gal. Does that mean we need to scrap the grand jury? And the answer is no. As I just said a while ago, they don't always get it right, but at least you got a spot in America.
[00:09:14] Unknown:
I well I think you need a different venue than Virginia.
[00:09:18] Unknown:
Well, here and here's the other thing too. Justice is the result is the outworking of religious expression. Whatever the religious expression is, the critical mass of it in a country will be worked out in justice because right and wrong are a religious matter no matter where you go in the world and what country you're in. Right and wrong come from a law giver, a final arbiter of right and wrong in individual instances from whose decision there is no appeal. And in our common law tradition, thus the jury, down here on land. Down here on land, the one who has absolute and final unappealable authority in heaven and on earth has delegated to mankind in our common law. It's a Christian tradition, and the Bible backs it up too, and he has delegated to us the 12 man jury.
And, of course, the grand jury is a part of that tradition as well. He's delegated that to us. He said use it, go through the process. What is it that's bothering I'll tell you what's bothering these, judges in England or whoever thinks they're in charge of saying, well, it takes too long to impanel a jury. It costs money. We to follow due process and make sure that the right to remain silent is adhered to, that that, all of the processes, the right of a notice and a meaningful opportunity to be heard in order to do all that takes time, and we don't have enough judges to do it. That's right. You don't.
We would be better off spending half of our national budget. I'm going out on a limb here a little bit. But make sure that internally, people have a shot at justice, and the only way to do that is provide lots of judges. Here we are a country of pretty near 350,000,000 people. Mhmm. And when we broke from Britain, our our population was a little over 3,000,000 at the most. And we've had three Supreme Court justices when our country started. Now we have nine. Okay. That's good. Why is and are are those nine justices hearing every case that comes up to them? Oh, less than one half of one half of one yeah.
And so what do we need? We need more trial courts. That's the Supreme Court, really. That's where the jury make their decision. We need to use the jury more. We need more appellate courts to handle the load of mistakes, and we need the Supreme Court of the United States to sort out the inconsistencies among the courts. Once they've weighed in and they've given the courts below time, the Supreme Court to your state the same thing, give the different district courts and the appellate courts below time to weigh in on a particular issue. And then once they've weighed in and there's a split, then the Supreme Court has the option of coming in and settling the dispute. Now keep in mind that appeal is not a fundamental right. It never has been.
People think appeal to an appellate court is fundamental. It's not. Our courts have said that since the beginning of our country over and over and over. Why do they say that? They say that because the 12 man jury is final. That's why the 12 man jury is final. Our constitution of The United States says to the federal courts even says that in amendment seven. Facts as the jury decides them are final. That's it. And the facts are what drives our or what drive our drives our common law. The facts are what drives, singular, our common law, not the law. They repeat that. The facts drive our common law and our cases, not the law. We don't have lawsuits in America. That's a gross misnomer.
We have fact suits. We don't ask the jury what the law is. We ask them primarily what the facts are. And once they've got the facts, then they can bring in the verdict the way they want in the teeth of the law as the Supreme Court has said or otherwise. But don't get the idea. These are lawsuits. We're not fighting over the law. The jury has they'll figure that out on their own. We don't even need to talk about
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it. Can I add this? Is the way they've circumvented this? I think that's the word. Uh-huh. Is the jury supposed to decide the facts and the law, and they've got it where the judge issues in closing statements?
[00:13:51] Unknown:
Yeah. We've given you the facts. I'll give you the law. That there's a difference. I get your point, and I I agree with you. But I I often as here often, I disagree with the way it's expressed by the patriot community, and they're wrong the way they say that. It has always been for at least fifteen hundred years and probably further that the 12 man jury the 12 man jury is master of the facts. No question. Are they master of the law? If they wanna be If they wanna be, but they don't have to be. And the judges have always instructed the jury on the law. Always. That's nothing new. But that doesn't mean the jury doesn't have the option of disregarding instructions.
Then the next question comes, is the jury entitled to instructions saying that? They never have been entitled to instructions saying that they're masters of the law, but there have been pushes politically in America to get that in place. That's never been part of our common law tradition for this reason. The jury and the man on the jury, you take him as you get him. You don't once you get him, you're not allowed to instruct him about anything. That's our common law tradition. We take him for the what he is. He may be a man with a third grade education that's not brushed his teeth a day in his life. His breath stinks, and he's an alcoholic. But that that's the way we take him, and we we use him as is.
And what he decides is the facts. And if he doesn't like the way it's turning out, if he's got the coonies or if he thinks nobody's gonna tell him what to do, and in his heart of hearts, he believes he's right, he has a duty. That's why that's why I say the jury the jury, it's wrong to say it this way. The jury is a judge of the law. Are they? Yes. They are. But if they judge the facts right, we take the juryman the way he is. We don't need to worry about. What's our problem? Our problem is we're not awash anymore in a Christian tradition. That's our problem. That's why the jury doesn't work. Yeah. We're not a when we were awash in a Christian tradition, we were awash in our common law tradition when our country started. There's no question.
Blackstone's volumes sold by far and away, his volumes on the laws of England, four volumes, sold far and away more volumes in the American colonies than they'd of 3,000,000 people than they did in England of about 8,000,000 people. Why? Because the people in America were interested. That's why. How do we know that? We have the records of what from the printers in England of how many volumes were shipped to America. And not only that, we have extensive records on who bought them, who they were. Go to the book, excellence of the common law, and you can find those some of those statistics there. I have a section there on the the commentaries on the laws of England, and they were so powerful here. And people were so interested. That's why we did so well. That's why that was the power that drove us, that enabled us to separate from Britain. It was not by force of arms. Were did there have to be force of arms? Yes. But that's not what did it. The indispensable factor is we just weren't willing to change. We demanded our common law tradition, and we wanted to know more about it. We knew a lot because, you know, the common thing in our common law tradition among every militiamen, every man, is the twofold duty of the militiamen. Number one, he's obligated by law, not by debt, by law, a duty to keep and carry a gun.
That's our common law tradition. Number two, that's against enemies foreign. Number two, he's obligated by law when asked to sit on the jury. That's defense of the law of the land. Enemy is domestic. Defense of the law of the land, duty set on the jury. Defense of the land, duty, carry a loaded gun. That's the simplicity of government and our common law tradition, and that duty falls upon every militiamen, 20 years old and upward at common law, 21, just in case we make a mistake. The biblical standard is 20 years old and upward at common law. We make it 21 because we want to on the side of being more mature and not less. But the jury is fundamental to our common law tradition. It is the center, the pole star around but which all of our common law tradition revolves and which holds our common law tradition in orbit. And without our common law tradition, we don't have the jury. You don't have our common law tradition. You don't have the right the right to duty to carry a gun. You don't have our common law tradition. You don't have the right to remain silent, the freedom of speech, the freedom of assembly.
All of those things are part of our common law tradition. The right to choose who you want to marry, freedom to travel, that's all our common law tradition, and that all arises, by the way. Every one of those arise from the trust settlement that God settled with our grandpa and grandma, Adam and Eve, repeated to Abraham, Genesis twelve and fifteen, repeated to Isaac, repeated to his son, Jacob, repeated to the 12 sons of Jacob, the fathers of the 12 tribes, repeated to David, repeated to Solomon, right on through to the newer testament culminating in Jesus Christ, and he repeated it as well.
That trust settlement is the reason for our common law tradition, and our relationship with our maker, our his trust settlement defines that relationship. So coming back to the 12 man jury, and I'll quote Chesterton, that famous Aussie, and he was talking about when we want to I'll try to quote it close as I can. He was an essayist. He said, when we want to discover a new galaxy, we consult the experts. We want to discover a new element to be added to the periodical table periodic table, we consult the experts. When we want to catalog a library, we consult the experts.
When we want to decide who lives or dies in a murder case or a rape case, we need to grab 12 beep 12 men standing around and ask them, and we don't ask them if they're qualified at all. And the rest of the world thinks we're insane. Go to France and ask them if they don't think we're insane. Why don't you turn that over to the experts? And then Chesterton adds in passing, well, if I'm not mistaken, that's what Jesus Christ did with the most important question ever asked mankind. And the most important question ever asked mankind is, who is Jesus Christ?
And he impaneled 12 men to witness the evidence and deliver their verdict. Justice Scalia, I may I repeat these stories, but I maybe I said this last week. Justice Scalia, of course, he's gone now. He was getting some kind of a master's degree in history or something and some big highfalutin Ivy Tech University. Ivy Tech. No. I that's a that is a school. No. Ivy League Ivy League. Yeah. And, he went in for his oral exam, and one of the professors asked him, said, what's the most, important history, monumental history in man in the history of mankind? And he being young, he said he fumbled around, tried to think about what's the most important thing that ever happened, and he said something.
And, his questioner, his interrogator said, well, you got that one wrong. The most monumental event in the history of mankind, the incarnation of Jesus Christ. Of course, when that happens to you I've had that kind of thing happen to me and embarrassed my questions and made to look like a fool. But once that happens, you never forget it. Never. Yeah. And he he said I never forgot it. Have you had that happen, Roger? Oh, yes. Of course. Yeah. Me too. Yeah. Go ahead, Roger.
[00:22:29] Unknown:
Oh, I was just gonna say the country missus Scalia. The country what? Oh, missus. Our country missus, judge Scalia Yeah. Was murdered.
[00:22:40] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. Well, that's the way it is. If you're right, you likely will be murdered, or they'll try to ruin your influence or send you to jail. They have three options, and the method and the sequence is always the same. Ruin your reputation and influence, they indite you by a grand jury. And if that doesn't work, go ahead and prosecute you and send you to jail. If that doesn't work, then they'll kill you. Now justice Scalia's case, it was kinda hard to get him off the court. They tried all that. They couldn't find find anything wrong they could complain about. You know, when Dick Nixon became president, one of the first things he did was he said to his justice department, I want you to find something
[00:23:25] Unknown:
on Black and was it Douglas or Black? You know, Black and Douglas All black. Lawyer Black was interesting. He was head of the KKK he was head of the KKK in Tennessee.
[00:23:36] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. He these guys were appoint appointed, by the communist president, FDR. Insane. I mean, oh, he gets a pass. He appointed, president or a head president, state president of the Ku Klux Klan to be a Supreme Court justice. His name was Black, easy to rim easy to remember. Black kind of figures into the Ku Klux Klan. They didn't like those kind of people. But, pointed him as Supreme Court justice. No qualifications for such a thing. Just a guy. You know? Well, that's okay. And Black didn't do everything wrong, but I find it of great note. He that the left gets a pass on that kind of stuff. He did one thing real wrong. He took that sentence out of Thomas Jefferson's letter to his friends
[00:24:19] Unknown:
and stuck it in a in a decision in the separation of church and state. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Black and Douglass the guy that did that audience. This Black guy is the one that did that.
[00:24:31] Unknown:
Well, Black and Douglass, lawyers, they're gone now. But I remember when they were on the bench, and they were called the Bob C. Twins of the Supreme Court because they always seem to agree, with every opinion that came out. And, I forgot. Oh, I was gonna say about black. No. I don't know what I was gonna say. Well, it doesn't make any difference. I got plenty of other stuff to say.
[00:24:56] Unknown:
But, Roger, I'm a I'm a ask you a question. Okay. Go ahead. No. I'm just gonna say what an interesting way to open up the show and to hear that headline. I didn't research it. You immediately brought it up. And it was it wasn't totally true, but it wasn't totally false either. Whoever's the announcer, they're not gonna go into all that. But he goes, well, this minister over there has negated, jury trials. Well, there's 80,000 backup. I wonder how many of them are are Afghan rape trials.
[00:25:25] Unknown:
Well, you wonder yeah. That's right. But you wonder, when once a politician opens his mouth, was it 80,000 or 40,000? Who knows? And but the bottom line is he knows what he's doing, and he doesn't appreciate. He's not I'm looking at him. He doesn't look like he's an Englishman to me, but but I but I I don't know. I I'm saying You might speak with a Rhodesian accent. Yeah. Yeah. People in our common law country, lawyers and judges here too, no matter what color their skin is, they don't have any appreciation of our common law tradition, and they don't understand where it came from. They're not taught. Comparative law is not required in law schools anymore.
And, for some reason, I, by the providence of God, was introduced to the whole thing, and and I I think, I know. And, well, I've devoted my rest of my life to promoting the idea of the laws of nature and the laws of nature's God and this distinction between the law of the land, the law of the city, the civil law countries of the world, and that's every country in the world except a handful of common law countries. Those two traditions of religion law and government are the only options there are. And every man and and every woman and every nation on the faces of God's green earth is tending either toward the one or toward the other on that continuum between the two. We're either getting better or worse. Our common law tradition has made us has made us the most powerful engine of wealth and prosperity the world has known. England England was a just a little island over there.
About 50,000 or 50,000,000 people. I think they're up about 70,000,000 now. Before World War two, they were the powerhouse. And within a few short years, they're nothing. How does that happen? Well, I think that has something to do with ignoring their common law tradition, which is, by the way, a Christian tradition. It is the Christian tradition. There really isn't another one. No. There isn't. And, religion, law, and government are inseparable. They're inextricably bound by the creator himself. You say, well, but does that mean you you're out to have a Christian nation? The answer is yes, but not what you think. You see America, distinguished from England, is a Christian nation de facto.
A Christian nation in fact, not in law. There's no law says we have to be a Christian nation. We just are. England, is a Christian nation by law, and they aren't. The best way to have a Christian nation, and we proved it to the world, and we're we're the first nation in the history of the world to ever do that. We have proved to the world that a Christian nation, that's not a Christian nation by law, but a Christian nation just because that's the way it is. We didn't plan it out necessarily. That's where the power is. So I don't promote, Christian nation by law. No. No. It doesn't work. It doesn't work.
But a Christian nation, in fact, is the ruler of the world. And although England was a Christian nation by law, they were also for for, for centuries, a Christian nation, in fact, at the same time. That is true, and that explains their power. You know, they ruled what was it? I think when you added it all up, it was about a quarter of the Earth's surface. The the the British Empire was a quarter of the Earth's surface. Now when you boil it right down, why is that true? It's true as a practical matter. I said because they're a Christian nation in fact and in law. But you if you're a Christian nation on in only law, you haven't got Christianity. If if you're a Christian nation in fact, you may be a Christian nation in law. You may not be a Christian nation in law. But if you're a Christian nation in fact, you will rule the world. There's no question about that. We showed it. They showed it. Being a Christian nation in law, Armenia was a Christian was the first Christian Christian nation in law. Yes. Were they a Christian nation in fact? I I don't think they were so much, quite a bit.
They never amounted to much on the world stage. Does that mean is that the test? I'm not saying it is. I'm just saying I have evidence that a Christian nation, in fact, for all of our faults, and boy, do we have a lot of faults, and there never was a time in our history that our faults were not overwhelming. Evil things that happen and evil things we did as a nation and individuals within our nation. But the Bible says that the gospel of Jesus Christ is unconditional, and it covers a multitude. You know, over in Scotland, they have a sale a saying, and they say this, many a mickle makes no. Many a little, many a little makes a mickle, and many a mickle makes a muckle.
We have a muckle. We have had a muckle of bad things, but the gospel, not just any so called gospel. Now a lot of folk out there with Christian badges on their denomination that ain't Christian, a I n apostrophe t. They they ain't saints. They ain't the holy ones. They ain't the the elect of God. They don't promote the gospel. It's a false gospel as Paul the apostle said to the this is fascinating. You know, Paul the apostle wrote a letter to a enclave of Celts that lived in Asia Minor, and they were the Gauls. And they they call themselves the Galatians, the Celts.
Same people that settled the island of Britain. And to really dive into that short little epistle charged it, overcharged with emotion, Paul was. He was ticked. You You know, he had the same material in the book of Romans. The difference was the book of Romans is, an unpacking in all of its glory from an objective point of view written to Romans, people the Italian Christians of Rome, I call them, to people he had never met. So it's perfectly subjective explaining the gospel of Jesus Christ. But when he wrote to the Galatians, the material, the subject matter's the same, but he knew those guys, and he had met them. He's the one that introduced them to the gospel of Jesus Christ.
They were they were his barons. They were near and dear to him, and he wrote them that first that was the first epistle he wrote. And, boy, it's exciting reading. I recommend it to you to read, but the theme of it is why why have you abandoned the gospel of Jesus Christ for another so called gospel? See, here's what happened. And this is what happened to everything in the New Testament. It's always the same. The prototype of all false religion in the New Testament is Judaism, popularly and accurately called Babylonian Judaism.
And the the Judaizers, as the Bible calls them, had followed Paul everywhere where he went and tried to undo what he had done. If he delivered the gospel, they go in and try to undo it. And that's what happened in Galatians at the city of Galatia there in that enclave in Asia Minor of those Celts. They came in and tried to do it. And you can see here a lot of people have commented about this. You can see the fickleness of the personality and culture of the Celts in that book. I mean, in spades. Read it. Who had Paul says it just with exclamation point in the vocative in the Greek. Who hath bewitched you? The old King James King Jimmy's boy said, who hath bewitched you?
Well, you could say, who hath horn swoggled you? Who hath befuddled you? Who hath gobsmacked you into oblivion? Who what do you what do you guys thinking? You think that the gospel of Jesus Christ is trying to be a good little boy? Do you think it's a moral question? You gotta be good to to be a Christian? The answer is no. Well, if you aren't good as a Christian, you're gonna get slapped down like a redheaded stepchild. That's true too. And that's what Paul does to these Celts. Probably a lot of them are redheaded. He slapped them down like redheaded stepchildren. And, it's enjoyable reading to see somebody get it given to him, but he what he was ticked about was they had they had started with the gospel of Jesus Christ, which says that safety from hell comes by the new birth, not by keeping the law of god or being a good little boy. Christianity is not watch me.
Christianity is not a moral system. It's not its foundation, I should say, is not morality. Yeah. Its foundation is grace. Yeah. And the what people call morality, it will change your morality. Morality is not law. Morality is whatever the custom is at that time. It's really a mush word that doesn't mean anything, and you won't find it in the New Testament. What you find in the New Testament is law. What you find in the Old Testament is law, standards for God's people. Yes. Once the new birth has come, then you want the law of God. You want the 10 commandments. You want to please your father who is in heaven, and you will. It's not a matter I got to. No. You will. Just wait. And if you don't, God will slap you down. And he can be he can get pretty rough about it, by the way. People say to me, you mean if I if I'm a Christian and born from above, I can do anything I want. And the objective answer is, yes, you can. Who's to stop you.
Who's to stop you. I'll tell you who's to stop you. Well, I believe I can do that. Well, God will stop you if you're truly a Christian. You're truly born of the spirit. He'll stop you, and it won't be pleasant. So I tell people that have that point of view. I tell them, well, I wouldn't try it, but if you want to, go ahead. I've been taken to the woodshed before. I know what it's like. I don't wanna try it again. It it's not pleasant. I mean, it could really set you back. Well, that's
[00:36:06] Unknown:
what Paul wrote to the Galatians, and that's the message to us. Roger, go ahead. It's very similar to what we do here when we teach people that they change their status and they become free. And it's poignant conversation today because this common law is really what you're changing over to. And and and and I didn't at first. I knew John. My teacher was quite adept in it, and that's how Brent and I met. I was gonna get John and Brent together on a program over there at the micro effect on the common law because we need to know about this. We're moving over under it, and we don't know anything about it. Okay? But what you just said a second ago, let me see if I can get back my my mind on track, was that's what I tell folks here. And the example I was using just the other day is, okay.
If you really wanna change status and be this national character, what you're really doing is taking on the mantra of personal responsibility. K? And that's very important. So you wanna be free. That includes personal responsibility. That's part of the common law. You know, really, if you look at it in a big sense. But the we get these people that wanna press the envelope occasionally. And the example I was given was you wouldn't go get your national status and drive down Main Street at 80 miles an hour running red lights. That's just plain stupid to press the envelope like that. And and the the the there's a, there's a connectability there to what you were saying. You don't just go out. You really respect it the other way. You respect it of, hey. I'm we want other people to join us so we'll be stronger. Well, you do that by setting an example and blowing down Main Street at 80 plus miles an hour and running stop lights. Isn't it a good example?
He's not very damn smart either.
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I would ask people. I would ask people. Wait a minute. Wait. Hold on, Larry. One minute, and then I'll finish, then you're next. What's who was it, Roger? Larry. Okay, Larry. Give us just a second. I ask I would ask everyone out there, are you a citizen of The United States or a US national?
[00:38:15] Unknown:
Whichever way there's a better way to put it. Okay. Are you a citizen of The United States Yeah. Or are you a citizen of The United States Of America?
[00:38:25] Unknown:
Well, either way, what but this the point is a citizen of The United States I get it, Roger, what you're saying, but a citizen of The United States is the fourteenth amendment thing that you've talked about. Okay. So, and if you aren't a fourteenth amendment, whatever that animal is, that's what you are. And if you tell the truth and declare it if you tell the truth and declare it, then declare it by you file the affidavit or whatever you do. All you have to do is say the truth, and the truth will scatter the darkness and the light. You don't have to get belligerent about it. Don't get belligerent about it. Don't be running stoplights and saying you I I'd even say don't worry about the driver's license thing. If you say the truth, that's the power, friends, and there is no greater power. We've come to understand,
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and right along what you're saying right here, when you become a nationalist is when you make up your mind to be. All the rest is the formality with the with the the authorities to let them know that you've made that decision so they recognize it. K? When I when you make up your mind to be free, you can be free at that moment.
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Is Larry still there? I'm sorry, Rodney. You go ahead. I don't wanna Well, I was just gonna say that's when freedom comes. You know? The rest is just,
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mopping it up and making it official. Larry, how you doing this morning? He's in Jacksonville, by the way. Larry, I'll bet it wasn't minus 15 in Jacksonville last night.
[00:39:56] Unknown:
No. No. I'm I'm in a t shirt right now. It's beautiful out. It's a little cloudy, but it's gonna clear up. So never did like met everyone. Yep. It wasn't that cold out either last night. It was like having air conditioning outside. So Yeah. Yeah. From Pennsylvania
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for sure.
[00:40:20] Unknown:
Yep. A question for you, Roger, and a question for Brent. You talked about Scalia. You believe he was murdered. I, was just looking at it on the Internet, and they're saying that he died of a heart attack after a hunting trip. He died in his sleep at his ranch, I believe, in 2016. And I was wondering, like, what you heard about that. And then Well, then the question I have for Brent is let me just say this because I yeah. And then for Brent, he talked about de facto. Well, what's going around the Patriot community and what has been going around for years is this idea that the state of California if you say the state of California, for example, that's the de facto, state. And then if you say California's small s state, that that's referred to as the de jure state, And yet in the first California constitution, they they call it the state of California. Matter of fact, the second, constitution of the state of California, the I believe it's the 1879 version, be that which, was written after they became a state, like in a part of the union, they also referred to themselves as the state of California. So they're the people in the state of California were referring to themselves as the state of California before they entered the union and after they entered the union. And yet, you know, and that's and I've seen that common phraseology throughout many constitutions, which I have read. They like, if you look up other cons state state constitutions, you'll see them refer to, their cons the or to their state as the state of whatever.
And so what has been going around the patriot community, I know Brent probably has heard this, and he can maybe comment make a comment about it. But, you know, like I said, they refer to that as a de facto as if it's something bad, and you wanna be a part of the de jure because that's the good that's the good thing. So that would be California state. So if he can give me his thoughts on that.
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Roger, you wanna go first? Oh, I just remember hearing at the time, because I was in this movement at the time that he was murdered. And I I don't know that it was his ranch. I thought it was somebody else's, but that's the impression I got, an impression a lot of other people had at the time, Larry, and I've always carried it with me. He that may be the truth. He may have died of a heart attack there, but Dick Cheney may have had his, a pillow over his nose at the time. I I don't know.
[00:42:56] Unknown:
All of the all of the badges of murder there, it hasn't gone to trial. There was no coroner's, autopsy performed, for example. This is like the Kennedy assassination in Texas. Same stupid stuff went on. So there the evidence was hidden or not taken, but it seemed kinda odd. And it was true. There were a lot of folks that wanted to get rid of him. There's no question about that. And he I met him once. He came to speak to us, And, a lot of people didn't show up because they hated him so much. I mean, there were just a handful of us there. Just a handful because people hated him.
And they called him Scythian Scalia. Was he? Yes. He was. Why? He got worse. He got got older, and the reason was he just got frustrated that the left was being so stupid. It's just downright stupid. And he was Tired. Tired of the stupidity Mhmm. And the willful blindness to simple law.
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And he was, of course, a word man. Go ahead, Roger. Well, I was gonna say, didn't part of it revolve around his staunch defense of the second amendment? He was a real big second amendment guy. Right? No question. And he he I'd listened to him speak,
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not long before he passed away in places like Oxford and England and all. And he was downright cynical. It was hard to listen to him because he he was bitter. Bitter. I could tell. And I had a well, more than one professor like that. They spend their lives promoting truth at some on some particular point and dive right into it, know everything about it, and they can't have can't get anybody interested in it at all. I see that I can think of two people I know. One of two of them are professors. One of them is dead. The other one, just a professor. He wasn't my professor, but I got to know him back on the East Coast at a Ivy League school. And he say in simple things like I remember he said one time, you know, I suggested at a faculty meeting that since all attorneys are by definition agents another word attorney is the French law word for agent. Norman Norman French word for agent. Oh. That's all lawyers are agents, then we should teach a mandatory course on fiduciary duty.
You know, fiduciary duty or agents and trustees and parents and people like that that have a responsibility that goes beyond taking care of yourself in the deal. You know? Contract, you just look out for yourself. You don't look out for the other guy. What we say buyer beware, caveat emptor, but that doesn't apply to trusts. And trust, you're you're obligated to look out for all the other people in the arrangement even to your own detriment if you must. A trustee is even a higher higher fiduciary, that means brotherly, duty than, agent. But agent is high, very high.
So he said, okay. All lawyers are agents. As you know, a lawyer has to act in the interest of his client and can't, in the contract he has with his client, the law says that he can't, do what's beneficial for him at the expense of his client. That's against the law. So this guy said, well, since an attorney by definition is an by definition is an agent, we need to have a mind mandatory course at this law school. It was Suffolk, by the way, at this law school on fiduciary relationships, such as agent and trustee. And they all just listened, looked at him, acted they, like, stared at him like a like a collie dog cocks his head and stares at you. And when he got done, he said they all just looked at each other and went right on back talking what they were talking about.
He said that is utterly insane to not make that a mandatory course in our law schools. And so why do you think we're watching lawyers do what they do? Well, one of the reasons is they don't know the difference. Nobody ever taught them. They don't know what an agency is. They don't know that attorney. The word attorney is the Norman French word for agent. They think it's some special license they have to steal money. And no kidding. I mean, I know lawyers. I'm dealing with one right now. He thinks being a lawyer puts him in a special class because he's smarter than other people, and he can steal what he wants, and he's doing it. That and that happens a lot because we have lost. Here's what we've lost.
We've lost our sense that our common law tradition comes from God. It does not come direct from the Bible. No. No. No. No. It comes from God. The Bible comes from God. The Bible comes from God, and our common law tradition comes from God. Well, that's what I know about justice Scalia, but you went on to ask questions about you ask a question about some patriot mythology. Oh, the state of California, California. This is just downright dumb. This is more patriot stupidity to talk about stuff like that. When you get to flipping words around like that, that you know, there are words that mean something. Oh, no question. That Scalia was a word man. We could talk about that. He wrote books about words and the meanings of words and why words are important. He collaborated with a fellow that an etymologist, and they wrote a a book about interpretation of words.
And this guy had been the etymologist, for the Black's Law Dictionary, sixth or seventh edition. Forget which one it was, but that's important. But all this stuff about state of California, California, just downright dumb. I'll tell you what's important, friends. I don't care what you call it. I don't care what you call it. Is it in fact or not? Is it true or not? Is, is California a sovereign state or not? And we're losing that. And if we lose let let's look at the simplicity of it. This is what I believe to be most important in this discussion and most important period. Who is the final arbiter of right and wrong in all of the universe? Well, that's easy question.
The maker of all of the universe, heaven and earth, and there isn't anything else. The Bible begins by giving us the two divisions of God's creation. In the beginning, God created namely the skies and the land, the heavens and the earth. The heavens and the earth. Okay. There it is. And those two divisions play out with all of the okay. Then God said, I am the final arbiter. That means I am the decision maker in individual instances of right and wrong from whose decision there is no appeal. Period.
[00:49:56] Unknown:
Roger, somebody's back. There's a little noise in the background. I was gonna try and Address. Could you address it? Is somebody well, you know, the thing, if somebody calls them and they come back to the meeting the mute's on and they don't know it and stuff like that. I think it's gone by now. But, go ahead, Brent.
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Usually, it's one of our friends that do that. Well,
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we're not punishing you. We're just trying you know what Brent's saying in conveying these concepts and stuff is very important. And your mind should be concentrating totally on what he's saying, and those kinds of little things in the background are distracting. So that's the reason we try and eliminate them. Yes. And I've done it too, Roger. Yeah. I'm guilty of that. There's no So let me give you a 40 lashes or anything just to make it better for everybody.
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We'll give you 40 lashes with a wet noodle. It won't melt through. Okay.
[00:50:47] Unknown:
So Paul's cat on you or something. Go ahead.
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The final arbiter in heaven and earth, according to the Bible, is the maker of heaven and earth. Arbiter means he makes the decision, and he has no obligation to say why. Okay. He's the final arbiter. And then he has said, you can show this in the Bible and in nature. He has said, I am delegating to my people authority to make that final decision down on land, not up in the skies, but down on land. And I'm ordaining the 12 man jury to do that. I'm ordaining the 12 man jury to do that. The number 12 peppers. I should say better is woven through the warp and the wolf of the text of the context of the Bible, cover to cover and lid to lid.
12. It's important. The 12 man jury is important. 12 is the basis of our common law tradition, not 10. 10 is the basis of the law of the city. 12 is that's a martial law number, by the way. 10. It's in the Bible because it is a martial martial law number, and there is martial law jurisdiction in the Bible. The book of Numbers is about martial law jurisdiction. It applies to armies on fields of battle, the Levitical priesthood in that context, and, of course, admiralty law. But coming back to heaven and earth, God is the ultimate arbitrary. He is not obligated to say why he does what he does, the decisions he makes. But if he wants to, he does, and sometimes he has explained himself in the Bible. But down here on land, he is delegated in this age of man.
First Corinthians chapter four verse three, age of man in distinction with the age, they call it the day. It's the by the letters, the Greek text says, day of man. That's in contradistinction to the day of the Lord. In this day of man, God is delegated to us to impanel the 12 man jury and make those decisions in final final instances. The jury is the arbiter. Not not just decision maker, arbiter. That means no obligation. The jury has the jury, and the juryman has no obligation to say what happened in the jury room to give any reason. If they want to judge the law, they can do that, of course, or and the facts, of course. They are final in our common law tradition.
Appeal is not final. No. No. The jury is final as as long as the course of the common law was followed in, gathering and paneling and sequestering the all the things that have to happen, and there's more there than you could count. No jury men are not allowed to bring other evidence into the courtroom or into the jury room. They're not allowed to consider any evidence but the evidence that comes before them. They're not supposed to be reading the newspaper or watching the TV, looking on the Internet. We know they do, but that's our common law tradition. If it ever comes to light, the whole case has to be thrown out and start over. Mhmm. And I've seen that happen. Yep. So the jury is final arbiter down here on land in this age, this day of man.
Now the day of man ends with the coming day of Yaho popularly called the day of the Lord, the theme. The theme, one of the major themes of the prophets of the Old Testament, beginning with Isaiah and coming on through to Malachi is the day, the coming day of Yahuah. To put it in the hard pronunciation of Anglo Saxon, Jehovah. Jehovah called in the King James Bible unhappily, the Lord. That's a rabbinical habit. There's no need to do that. He is Yahoah. It means he happens. When he when he gets here in full fledged glory, the day of man ceases. He becomes final. He gathers a single man, gathers all three branches in of government and our common law government under a single will, and he is final.
Period. But right now, we've been delegated that and to deny it, as they're trying to do apparently in England, is to spit is to spit in the face of God himself.
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Whose decision, one whose decision there is no appeal. Yeah. But one who Brent is right before the top of the hour. I know Paul likes to do this and it looks like we caught it in time. Give you a couple of minutes. No rush. Would you tell everybody how to get more Brent Winters?
[00:55:31] Unknown:
Oh, thank you, Roger. Just go to commonlawyer.com. Www.commonlawyer.com. And if you go to that website there, you can take advantage of all the free things that are offered. We're on the radio, different places, seven days a week. It has the different outlets there, radio, Internet, Of course, this show, it's on there. And, we have church on Sunday, Winter's Inn, which is affiliated with the law school, Winter's Inn, Winter's Inn Church, or we just call it in church. You can join us there for that. We're going through the book, Cause by Clause and Blow by Blow, the book on Sunday of Exodus, the law of God, the statutes of God. Oh, they're all applicable.
The principles of them, we're going through them very slowly, but we're moving. We started in Genesis. That's been a few years back. That's how slow we're going. But then on Saturday, we're on Patriot Soapbox also. You can see it there on the website. Go to the media button, and we're going through the book of first Peter the apostle. The epistle of Peter the apostle, the general epistle, it's a sick cyclical kind of thing. In other words, that epistle was written to to, people at large, the 12 tribes, I suppose, that live like James in that sense, really, but it doesn't say that.
But it's written to everybody and, calls by calls and blow by blow. And then winter's in, we're teaching a course now. Oh, I encourage all you folks over in the old country, in England, across the pond to join us, please. By the way, if you're from, how can we prove this? I just had an idea. If you're from the old country, we'd we'd, make a special deal. But then again, how could I know? You might be living here in The States and lying to me. But I I'm anxious to our brethren across the sea, Christian folk all over the world, whoever you are. I want you to take the course, and we're clause by clause and blow by blow through the declaration of '76.
The declaration of '76. It's organized to the IT. It has the it's what breathed life into our constitution of The United States because it is the it is the common law complaint and the declaration to the world and to understand comparative law. That means comparing and contrasting our law of the land with the law of the city of the declaration of seventy six enables us to do that point by point. A lot of other things there. Go to the website commonlawyer.com. Roger has a website also. Roger, say a few more. Thematrixdocs.com,
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of course. And Paul, you want do we have people to say goodbye to you today, or we just enjoy the whistle for a minute? All might not be back from next door yet. Okay. Well, it usually is BOU. I'm not sure if they're with us today. Honestly, the way this day show started this morning, being unfrozen. We'll see you soon if, in fact, we're being separated here at the top of the hour. Brent, we did have this week a new guy from across the sea. Now he stumbled somehow into us on Monday or Tuesday. I don't remember earlier in the week. He had a distinct accent from that part of the world, except it was not English. It was Irish.
And his name was Oliver, and he's a naturalized citizen. He was in New York City. He was into this he had stumbled into this whole area of status and status change a while back and followed a couple other people. He just briefly, told us that. And he's we said be back tomorrow, and he hadn't been back since. So, then I've been able to hail him anyway. Oliver, are you out there with us today? I was wondering, of course, if he would have been, because there's a great possibility he was Catholic, or is Catholic. And, anyway, hopefully, he'll check back in with us, Brent. We always like to have Roger.
[00:59:50] Unknown:
He came on one day right after the show. Yeah. Yeah. That's when I'm done here or something. Right, Lisa? Well, no. After that, he actually came I don't remember. I don't think it was yesterday. It might have been Wednesday, I guess. Anyways, he's working most of the time during the show. And Oh, okay. I don't you know, he happened on that one day, and he may be back tomorrow.
[01:00:13] Unknown:
I was just listening in the background, so I'm not certain of that. But Well, thank you, Lisa, for the update. I didn't know all that stuff, and we'll look forward to him being back. It was nice talking with him, albeit it was kinda brief. Let's see what else. There's another thing I wanted to mention here and explore just a little bit, Brent, if you could. We've got a new, listener, new Spanish family, and her the mom's name is Alma. I'm sure Alma's listening today. They got a couple of children. They live in New Jersey. Her husband does, I think, HVAC work and stuff. And they've been here naturalized, I think, what's she say, twenty years or something.
And then she came on yesterday or the day before and to exchange, a conversation, and she mentioned that she was also a paralegal. So, and that she was finding what was happening is she looked at some form. She used to work with the consul or something, and and she found a form with National on there. And it's just like what I try and tell our folks, you know, when you get turned on to this, you'll see it all over the place. You never saw it before. And here she'd been working with these forms for five years and never seen it so prominently in the exchange of questions and information. So, anyway, this is so unique because Alma and her husband being Mexican, would have never had access to the common law, at least not formally through being in Mexico.
And now they move up here, and it's very she's got to be interesting because she was at some sort of a confab out of state somewhere. And in the conversation, my name came up. And she went back and investigated it and researched us down and found us. And, she's just charming. Alma, are you out there? I'm sure you are today, but it's just interesting to me. I was thinking, I bet they'd never even been exposed to these common law concepts before because from where they originated, they just never had access to them. They're absolutely not prominent, as you've stated many times, Brent, in these South American countries down here. It's all law of the city.
But, anyway, that's something else I wanted to mention. Alma might not be with us today, but she's a real sweetie and, a quick understudy and really just wants to learn to the point that she really went out and did some work to hunt us down. Uh-huh. So that's kinda cool. Did she talk to you? Yeah. She's come on the air several times. She must not be there today. I'm I'm sure I don't think she's too shy that the cat's got her tongue, but she might not be there today. She also has got children. That might be something to do with it. So, anyway, I just thought that's cool. They have something in common with us.
[01:03:09] Unknown:
We're all from the new world. We're native to this world. That that's a little diff so, yeah, I'm I'm I'm glad to hear that, that she's hanging around, and she must be working somewhere where here in The States is the way you talk. They're in New Jersey. They live in New Jersey for years. Okay. Okay.
[01:03:26] Unknown:
Naturalized citizens and been through the process and, absolutely all all ears and wants to learn. And and and just these are some of the experiences that this message brings to these people, and we're in a very unique condition where they could have really never achieved freedom where they were born and raised.
[01:03:47] Unknown:
That's true. You know what? Sorry.
[01:03:49] Unknown:
Go ahead, Roger. I was just just saying. So they come to The States. They think they're got freedom. They really don't. And then they really have an opportunity to achieve it where they never would have had that opportunity presented to them in their other situation. So it's just one of the joys for me of what we do here.
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George Gilder made the point that if it wasn't for the Mexicans, America would have collapsed a long time ago. Oh, yeah. And here's what he says. And I'll put it in my own words. The truth is white boys don't know how to work anymore. Yeah. There's a lot of truth to that. Oh, boy. Is there a lot of truth to that? I've had ranchers out west tell me. One of them used to fly down. He had a big I think this thing was something like 60 miles long and 10 miles wide land in Nevada, a ranch, and, had at least and owned a lot of owned the water rights, but he couldn't he first, he had, I'll just tell you his testimony.
He said he hired a lot of Mormon boys to work for him, and he said they were stealing him blind. He had a lot of cattle, and he finally, him and another fella getting that he knew there, get in their system. They'd fly down to San Diego, and there was this place down on the border near Tijuana that were illegals would congregate looking for work, Mexicans. And, he'd gather them up and find the ones he wanted, and, they'd put them they'd stuff them in the six seater, and they go down to get two at a time or, well, six seater, he get four of a time and him and they'd fly back. It was near, not Wendover, but, show oh, Ely Ely. Well, Ely, what who was the nearest town? And that's not a big town, but that's where they used to go get supplies.
Ely. By the way, to put it on the map, that was, Patricia Nixon's hometown. Oh my goodness. Nick Nick Nixon's wife grew up in Ely, Nevada of all places. Big or big. It's a big mining place, but it's not a big town. It's very small. Well, he'd he'd bring those boys back, and he told me he said, Brent, when it comes to having men that'll work, I mean, down and dirty cowboys, there's nobody can match these Mexicans. They get out and work. And the ones that didn't know how to do the ranch work, they figured it out real quick and got real good at it. And they're good. They're good at they were good at at fencing and, roping and welding and all the things you have to do on a ranch to keep things up.
And they said then they were just pleased to get the money I gave them, and they'd send a lot of it home because even if I didn't give them a lot, it was more than they could get in Mexico. Yeah. Of course. Yeah. So, and that's the kind of thing, but that's been thirty, years ago, over thirty years ago. That's the kind of thing that keeps America going. I know it's not legal. And you say, well, they're taking the white boys' work. Are they? Or is it just the white boys are all smoking crack and and doing math, and they won't work? Which is it? I know where I'm from. A lot lot of work to be done around there on the farms. And, if you could get a man I had one guy say this. Look. If I can have a young fella that shows up to work every day on time, sober, not drunk or on drugs, I'll try to hang on to him. I don't care how hard he works, if he works at all.
Just if he's sober and shows up on time. And he said, but I'm having a hard time finding anybody that'll do that. Yeah. Now don't tell me that's not dragging us down. That's how do you stop it? Of course it is. It's about it from now till the cows come home, ain't gonna change it. Yeah. What's gonna change it? I'll tell you what will change it. And it comes back to a point I wanted to make a while ago, Roger. Almost made it, and then I forgot where I was going. The English Bible, the Bible in English, has made England what it is, has made Britain what it is, has made America what it is. Without that, and I I can say that on the authority, who was it wrote who was it that wrote tragedy and hope? He was Bill Clinton's Quigley.
Quigley. Yeah. Bill Bill Clinton's memo a great historian, a wrong headed as the day is long, but when it comes to facts, he had some things right. And in his book, tragedy and hope, he made makes the point of how or what the Bible has done for Germanic man. Now who is Germanic man? Well, back when the Roman Empire started falling apart, Germanic man was Germanic man, the Germanic and Scandinavian people. That's what that's what Germanic man was. The Celts occupied Britain at that time and before that, the Iberians.
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They assisted in the downfall of Rome.
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Well, they did that too, but that's right. That's right. That's right. But when Rome started disintegrating, who picked up the pieces? And it was Germanic man. Mhmm. And Germanic man saw because and this is Quigley that said that. I quote him extensively in my book on common law. He makes a lot of observations that explain what happened. Germanic man, the infusion of the Hebrew Bible among Germanic man made Germanic man, along with their other characteristics, what they were. And Germanic man, along with Scandinavian man is Germanic man.
They ended up being the ones that migrated to Britain, and they ended up being the ones that took over the world. That is true. I mean, do we stop to consider that when when Constantinople fell in 1453, the people from England, from Britain, the Normans, they were there, and they were afraid. They were afraid. The people in Constantinople were afraid of them. They were afraid of the Turks, but they were there and had taken over all those places at different times. They were out take trying to take over the world even back then. They conquered Sicily, Constantinople, Roger the second, brother to William the conqueror.
He was ranging all over the Mediterranean conquering people. Who was the the man that was the founder of chivalry? He's recognized oh, Marshall. Marshall, he was, he was the advisor to King John of Magna Carta and, to his father, the man the man that brought dignity and what chivalry to our to the forefront of our common law tradition. He spent a lot of time over there. He was he was he was the the, Dick Butkus, or he was to sports in that day what Dick Butkus was to football, what Larry Bird was to basketball, what, Cassius Clay was to boxing.
John Marshall was to the world because the most famous sport in the world of all of Europe William Marshall.
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William. Thank you. Oh, the Yorkshire rose.
[01:11:17] Unknown:
Oh, I said, oh, I said John, and that was wrong. Yeah. So I'm glad he It was very wrong of you. Yeah. Very and that hurt. By the way, that injured You are wrong. That injured his pride and his feelings, and I don't I don't intend to do that, but thanks for recorrecting me. William and William was over there kicking around, and he was so famous in Europe because he was a jouster. I mean, jouster, but jousting was so popular from what I only know what I read, and sometimes I don't remember that, obviously. But jousting was so popular that they shut down the civil war in England, because everybody wanted to go to the jousting contest. That happened at one point. Well okay. So I'm gonna stop talking for a moment and Oh.
[01:12:00] Unknown:
Again, we will. Welcome our guest. We haven't seen you in a while. Hola, brother.
[01:12:05] Unknown:
How are you doing? Hi. Really glad you did. I'm I'm doing fine. I've just learned how to butt in, hadn't I? I was just practicing my can I butt in Yes? And wreck the show, skill set. And You did an exceptional job. We're gonna thank Brent for that. It was great. I didn't I I and I'm thinking, has he done that on purpose, thinking that I'm lurking around so that I come in? I don't know. He's because he's a canny lad. That's fantastic. Anyway, it worked. Uh-huh.
[01:12:31] Unknown:
We got a new we got a new guy that is Irish, and he hadn't been I've spoken with him one time. He's working. We conflict with his work. Maybe we'll talk to him more tomorrow. His name is a classic, Oliver. And, real nice guys. He really he's been over here. He's naturalized. Lives in New York. Really into this status change stuff. He was giving us the background of what he's done, and he stumbled into us somehow. So I'm looking forward to talking with him the next time. I wanna make sure I let you know that.
[01:13:02] Unknown:
Well, it's good. If you could please describe to us quickly, that's important, because we'd like the Tasmanian word association, activities. What does canny mean? C a n n y.
[01:13:17] Unknown:
It's a Scottish phrase. Canny means, you are you have skills. If you're canny, you're cute, if you know what I mean, in a kind of, you're, not so much deceptive, but you you're astute. That's what it means. Oh, I got it. You're astute. Oh, yeah. I had latched on the Clever. Slightly clever and and and on the ball. That's what it means to be canny.
[01:13:46] Unknown:
Does it also mean to to be frugal and keep what you got? Does that fit in or not? I don't know. I don't know. Is that an issue you've got going on in your life, Brent, or something you've been talking about? That's an American thing. I don't know. But no. I I had taken an interest in that word, and I, of course, I like I say, I only know what I read. I wanna know what your take on it was because you use it as though it's your native tongue. And if I can if I can, there's that word but in a different use. If I can, I try to work it in these kind of words into my translation of the Bible because sometimes these kind of funny work funny to people? Words capture the meaning better than what we, what we normally use and have become current with us. Now I remember the word canny growing up. I don't hear it much said anymore. I don't know what happened, but it seemed here's another one. Here's another one, gumption.
[01:14:45] Unknown:
Gumption. I used to hear it. Oh, that's a good word. That's a nice woody word, isn't it? That's got some force to it. Yeah.
[01:14:51] Unknown:
Woody. Yeah. A woody word. Yeah. It is. But but gumption, I I heard it a lot when I was growing up, but I don't hear it now. But, apparently, you still hear it over there. Is that true?
[01:15:05] Unknown:
Yeah. I used to hear it a lot when I was young and not doing things right. Oh, I don't know. One of my mom and my dad would say, show some gumption, lad. Yeah. Stuff like this. Oh, it's alright. Okay. Get on stage now. Apply yourself. That's what it means. Get you know? This is it this
[01:15:21] Unknown:
interests me because you said of me, you said he's a canny lad, and then you said me your father said get some gumption, lad. And I say, well, okay. Yorkshire is kinda up north toward the border, so apparently that's the word lad figures into the way you talk up there too. Is that true?
[01:15:39] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. We're all yeah. Come on, lad. That's a that's a regular one up there. Yeah. Oh, had can you tell us anything about what's happened to the jury recently and who this fella is, this so called minister
[01:15:52] Unknown:
that has said that we're going to do away with it?
[01:15:56] Unknown:
Well, it's I haven't actually looked into it that much because it's like the latest episode of, you know, the great distractathon as I call it, the great pantomime, the great pretense that we're actually involved and we're supposed to listen to these people. But he's called I think that that I don't know what his official title is, idiot of the day usually. He's called David Lammy. He's not even English. He's of African descent. So, maybe they're doing that to even rub our noses in, you know, in it. But, I was thinking in the car, I I was hoping to get here a little bit earlier, but I had to go to the barbers and then one thing led to another and pretty soon I was an hour late from from sitting in front of the desk. But I was thinking on the drive back that, really what I need to do, get to go with some people. We need to, have a jury trial to put David Lamy on trial for, breaking the Magna Carta because you can't get rid of it. It's in perpetuity and he seems to think he can. And of course, they are rightfully, I guess, from their point of view, relying on the sheer apathy of any sort of, retort back to them from any of the parties. You see this is the key thing. It's not so much that he said it. It's that none of the other so called politicos in that sick bag called the Houses of Parliament start gobbying off about it. There's literally no verbal abuse of him, and he it's just that's what that's what's sending the signal out. There's a the whole place is in apathy, and it's a reflection of the country to a great degree in certain regards. And, no one's got any fight, and they won't do it apart from which, you know, there is a problem that if you actually say certain things, you get locked up now just for saying words. Not gumption's not one of them, thankfully. No. You don't have to say words. You can put it on Twitter, and they'll arrest you and throw you in jail.
That's right. Well, there were twelve twelve thousand people charged last year with naughty tweets. 12,000. No. Just give me an idea.
[01:17:50] Unknown:
Yeah. What? Just, I I the way I get it about your country is that it has been, unless something's changed, the studied opinion of the barristers there that chapter 39 of Magna Carta is still in force. And let me read it here. And, you mentioned it. You brought it up. Let me read it. This is, it was written originally in Latin so that Stephen Langton wrote it, and he was archbishop of Canterbury. Well, he was the chief drafter. And the way I get it, he wrote it that way so that he could stick it in the face of the pope, which happened. And the people that were there that heard the reading of it to the pope said that he blew a proverbial head gasket. But here it is, chapter 39. I I hope folk take an interest in this and remember it.
This was, sealed. We don't know that John even knew how to write, but he put his seal on it. And chapter 39 says this, no free man shall be arrested, imprisoned, dispossessed of his property without lawful judgment by his peers or by the law of the land. Now let me read it again, and I'm gonna ask, Paul what he knows about it. Does he have an opinion about it? What does it mean to him as an Englishman, if anything at all? Is it special to him? But let me read it again. No free man shall be arrested, imprisoned, dispossessed of his property without lawful judgment by his peers or by the law of the land.
Paul, does that make you swell up with pride? Am I being corny and saying that and pathetic, or is that something really serious?
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Well, I think it's something really serious. The problem is and it's not unique to what you've just said. These things are not known widely enough or deeply enough or even in a simple understanding of it. They're simply not known. Yep. So if you get the entire if you get multiple generations, successive generations, made unaware, not ignorant, but unaware of a thing, they literally don't think of it, do they? You can't you can't think of a thing that you're not aware of and that's really what's happened and they've, you know, to some degree I was thinking that the COVID thing, they were stress testing just how sort of myopic and apathetic everybody's become and no doubt it ticked a lot of boxes for them in some regards. And now here we are a few years later and they're seeking to push all this stuff around.
It's, it's wretched, it's foul, but it's indicative of the fact that there's no pushback. And so, I don't think it's just of this nation, but this is the one, obviously, I'm concerned about. We are becoming a pushover, literally. You know? We're almost like there's like a sign to the bully. Go on. Push me over because I won't hit you back. You won't get I won't do anything. And that's really what's, you know, so we're governed by, these actors who are intellectually extremely mediocre people as individuals as you well know. I mean, we could use some other foul language, but I don't wanna get locked up. And, but, that's kinda what's going on, really. So, I mean, the whole I mean, just coming back to Marshall, William Marshall as well, he was it it wouldn't Magna Carta would not have happened without him.
It absolutely would not. The other week, I was at a little presentation, where we were looking at Shakespeare amongst other things, and although it only formed a small part of the whole thing, we were really looking at psychopaths in government, which is, you know, it's just a modern word to describe people going mad on power or whatever you wanna call it. I don't care. A lot of subjects
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to study there.
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Yeah. And and the Shakespeare thing is really interesting because part of the presentation, it wasn't a very long bit, although I spoke to, Alan, who was the presenter afterwards about this. And I need to get him on my show actually because I've really got on well with him. He's a great guy. I've done a lot of study. He he was talking about, you know, his theory, let's call it that, is that there was a team involved in putting Shakespeare's plays together, including a woman whose name he gave me who was over in Hampshire, and they met in Hampshire and in Oxford. And part part of it part of their remit, as it were, I don't know where this remit came from, I've just said that and made it up, was to introduce, which Shakespeare's plays did, a whole ton of new words into into the lexicon of the English language. And they did this, and it's kind of weaponized as well. It's it's much of it, I think, is to do with, you know, like these double meanings, like, I know that this has been around anyway, but you've got a court where you would be taken to to stand trial or whatever, which also means that you've been caught, c a u g h t. There's all this that's just one little example of it. There's tons and tons of this kind of stuff. But Alan brought up, a whole section about William Marshall, which were I wasn't anticipating, and it was really interesting. He was, as you said, a jouster. He was a knight, and he lived until the age of 71 or two, which is astonishing considering when he lived.
So he lived from the November through to about 12. He died about five years after Magna Carta in 12/15. I think he died about 12/20, 12/21, something like that at the age of 71. So he was in his mid sixties, a seasoned knight, and reckoned to be the of course, they they big these things up, but the only man of honor in England he was noted for this. And he therefore commanded the respect of everyone. Everyone respect, including the barons who were not a big bunch of nice guys either. This was sort of a power grab and all this kind of stuff and, but without him it wouldn't have happened.
He absolutely he basically was able to put it to them in the meetings that they had and get the king to do this because he didn't sign it nicely. And you know that it wasn't sort of a big sort of convivial we're all happy now thing because I think about five years after that they were pushing to change it straight away and that had to be stopped. And then again about another five years after that. So it's just human behavior, you know, self interest, comes before everything else, I would suggest, that it does amongst these sorts of people. And, it was writ large really in everything that they did, but Marshall stopped it getting out of hand, and they all shut up when he talked. And, he was fighting, I think, right through into his fifties on horses with lances and stuff like this. He was a formidable guy, about six foot two, which is ridiculous for that age as well. He was a very big man, physically big. I've forgotten where he's buried actually. I was looking at it only the other day. He's buried in some tomb somewhere in a cathedral over here.
So he's noted. But of course, I never learned that at school. They didn't teach me that really cool stuff at my school. They just give you lots of dates about all this other stuff. These these really core things, I would suggest, these core aspects of establishing freedom of speech, which is really where it comes from, which is, as we now know, or people are experiencing directly as opposed to just intellectually, is the most important freedom. Can't talk. You're done for. Yeah. And, and and, you know, so it there was an acknowledgment of what these guys did, and it was under the pressure of violence. Let's not be sort of backward about this. There was a lot of violence in England. There still is actually, but there was tons of it back then. And so it took a guy like that to actually get knock everybody's heads together because he would have probably run them through if they'd done what he said because he was still big enough and physically powerful enough to commend their respect. So, you know, a key figure. And, of course, no one talks about him apart from you and me in this little conversation, but rarely talks about him. People don't know who he is, but he's very important guy. Well, I'm glad you you filled some of those gaps in.
[01:26:05] Unknown:
In my defense, it was a slip. You know, John Marshall, the the this is not John Marshall. You're what did you say his first name was? William. Oh, yeah. William. William was the Englishman that was so indispensable to Magna Carta. But then there was also, in our country, John Marshall, who was on the Supreme Court for thirty four years and, kind of set the tone. And Mhmm. Of course, then there was, other, well, there was general marshall. Whether or not all these folk are related, I don't know, but in probability, they are. But to know a little bit about the foe and the sweep of what happened in England with Magna Carta is indispensable for us to understand who we are. Because when we our constitution was put together, it was a brief of common law government, and nothing new. This was not some creative thing that geniuses put together, James Madison and those fellows.
But Magna Carta was key in all that. And the most quoted, the most quoted man of those that put together our constitution of The United States was a man in England by the name of Ed Koch, sir I think they call him sir Edward. No. No. You say Cook Cook. That's right. Yeah. Well, some do, don't they? Yes. I've heard people say Cook, but it's spelled as in Coca Cola, c o Yes. It is. E. Yeah. Correct. Yeah. So In The States, people say some of them say things go better with Coke, so that we say Coke and they say Cook, but it's c o k e. But his commentary, he was kicking around pretty hard during the days of King James the first, and I think James Pertinier rolled his head off of his shoulders more than once because of what he was doing on the courts, tried to get rid of him, thought he'd make him famous and he would fall in line, but he never did.
But his commentaries on Magna Carta have been the touchstone for common law government. Now Magna Carta was not written especially to establish common law government. It was written rather, from what I read, rather drafted is a better way to say it, rather rapidly as things like that often are, rather rapidly and addressed, bullet fashion problems that were front and center in England according to our common law. It starts out, for example, Magna Carta starts out the first six or seven chapters addressing how widows and orphans are being treated and trying to correct that.
Yes. Yeah. Is that you, Paul, that said that? Yes? Yep. Oh, yeah. So you're now Paul is an Englishman, apparently, and I'm getting annoying as time goes on on the Internet. You don't you you you get to know people these days, but he's, he's a student of his own history, and we should be a student of his history too because we in our English speaking culture here in America, we are a common law tradition. There is no other way to describe who we are. We can't say that we are a democracy. That's not even true. Our common law tradition is not democratic. That's not what it is fundamentally. Nor, fundamentally, it's a common law tradition, and the foundations of our common law are what we go by here in America. The machinery is in place, and the machinery is in place in England. But here's what they're doing in England, friends.
They're dismantling the machinery. We're not doing that yet here. They dismantled the grand jury back in the nineteen thirties, Paul, if I remember right, in England. They took it away. Mhmm. You had grand jury Yeah. For centuries. We have it here in our states, so many of them, and, in in the federal courts. All the machinery is in place because we systematically in America this has never been done, but we systematically wrote down the fundamentals in a in a compact draft, to quote Chief Justice Taft, a compact draft called the constitution of The United States or common law as it is applied to government. A very thin slice of our common law tradition. Now Paul, maybe you could say something about this. This is my opportunity to get some information and a feel for it. I've heard people in England talk about their constitution.
And we here in America, we talk about our constitution. But here in America, we have really two fundamental constitutions. And one, both of them one, actually, the unwritten one, that's the one you have, is more important than the foundation of the written one. And do you, do you say it that way in England, our constitution, and talk about your constitution? Well,
[01:30:57] Unknown:
I might do from time to time, but generally, no one's aware people are oblivious to it in the great mass of people. It's, again, it's like it's become an esoteric study. The Bill of Rights, there is a Bill of Rights over here, and there's a constitution. There are people who are, proud, fiercely English seeking to, restore the English. I'm one of them. I'm not as knowledgeable as these people are about things, but they argue that the Bill of Rights and the English constitution are actually undermine Englishness and that there are flaws in it. I mean, you get this with every single document that's been laid down. We all think, well not that we all think it, but there is a general perception I think that, people go, oh, we've got this document and therefore it's all sorted out. But in fact, it's an it's an eternal fight.
It's good to have these markers. You need them. Yeah. But when you look into it, you find out in every single case, it's not sort of like some Hollywood production oh well we're all you know all chaps we're all agreed on this everything's gonna be great now. It's never ever like that never ever has been probably never ever will be. We've got this situation now where they're trying to get rid of trial by jury. This was mooted by some other numbnuts, politician in the nineties, Michael Howard, who is of the small hatted people, and he said, oh, we don't need this, you know. Well, he's right.
When he uses the word 'we' he's referring to that power elite structure. They don't need it. I agree with him. That's right. Unfortunately, unfortunately for him we do need it and we've got it. But of course now what they're simply doing is if, like I was saying, if you've got people that are going around in a blissful state of unawareness of these things, what's the point of them? If they're not actively a part of people's thinking and mindset and influence the culture in the way that they should and that that influence would have come say, through, an honorable BBC.
I just had to say that. Please. If we had institutions that were in support of these things, then there would be awareness. But we don't because all the power centers have been overthrown. Yeah. All of them. And And that's the situation that we're in. Of course. Yeah.
[01:33:09] Unknown:
Question. I I heard it yesterday on Infowars. I one of them just made the announcement that one some ministers trying to get rid of the jury. So I kinda opened up the show, with that today with Brent. So we had a brisk discussion of this before you were able to join us. But so the question is, it's not a blanket statement like that. Turns out Brent brings up the article. Read it. You got 80,000 doll 80,000 backlog on court dockets, and then they're going to throw some of them out. So is that a legitimate, reason, Or is it a foot in the door to get rid of all of it?
[01:33:48] Unknown:
Alright. So I go for the latter. It's always a foot in the door, and it would have been planned that way, wouldn't it? Yeah. It would have been planned that way. I mean, I'm I'm not fully up to speed in all these things, but I understand, correct me if I'm wrong, I might well be, that it's to do with jurisdiction. In their jurisdiction, which I view as a private legal club Yeah. That everybody is inadvertently and unwarriedly drawn into courtesy of birth certificates and other documents which they say are contracts and this and that. Over there. Right. However they've done it, they've done all this stuff. So that's fine. So in their world, that's it. But the the plan or a plan needs to be, and we're looking for active people to to sort of get involved with this, is that Englishmen and women, need to position themselves outside of that jurisdiction Yep. And be under the common law on England, on the land. It's to do with the jurisdiction of the land.
And, yet again, it's a massive communications challenge not because we don't have the truth but we don't have the means to get the truth understood rapidly enough by sufficient people this is my take on it so that you get a kind of communications momentum building up in people. That's the challenge. It is a communications challenge but not for lack of knowledge or for lack of truth. Those and those are very important things. So you could say well we're on the right side of history, we are. That doesn't mean anything, however, if if there's only five of us in a pub talking about it. It it really doesn't. It doesn't mean too much. It just means that the spark is still there. The ember is still there. Right. Meanwhile, they've lit a fire in in all these other departments that are burning the place to the ground, you know. And everybody's going, oh, well, they must be in charge because they're the government. I,
[01:35:29] Unknown:
I knew that you were embarking on this search and your, there was female barrister you've got and some of those other folks you were talking with here a while back. And now Gary, the guy that sent me this and his brother Dave, they're back. Their mother's passed away and other stuff. They're back with us on the show. They're probably listening right now. But it was Gary that sent me back when he was able to be more involved with the program, a document that showed those in England, you got six different statuses, and they were all listed at the bottom of that document. K? And one of them was English national.
Have y'all looked into that and tried to pinpoint that down any further?
[01:36:15] Unknown:
I've looked into it casually, but not in any great depth, Roger. I am aware of it. I went to the page. I've I've got it. You you're absolutely right. I Yes. I mean, this is to do with me and my personal issues and approach to this. I'm slightly more volatile. I can't be bothered with it. As you know, I I begrudged the idea that I'm supposed to put some time in
[01:36:37] Unknown:
to dismiss a thing that I never signed up for in the first place. I want to charge them for my time if I've got to do that. There there you know? Way they've gotten you to agree with this. I don't know the system over there, how it's put out now. It's but I know these guys that do it, and I know they always follow the same blueprint cookie cutter wherever they do these things because they've always worked. So you got a real strong percentage on your favor. That's what you're looking for and how to get to. And it's somehow, I'll bet you, I'll just bet you, it's through whichever minister is in charge of of issuing passports because of the same principles that apply in The US.
The reason the secretary of state has that power is because he's the guy that's always presenting Americans to foreign governments. So if he's gonna present you properly, he's gotta know which one of the six you are, doesn't he?
[01:37:34] Unknown:
May I?
[01:37:35] Unknown:
Yeah. Yes. I'll I'll bet you just when you get a chance, I know the situations, etcetera, but man, hone in on that. I'll I just know these guys Well, I'm getting more time available for proper work again. It's been a funny year as you know, but I am getting a lot more time available. So I'd be sure if the answer isn't there. Paul's wanting to say something. Hey, Paul. Have you thought out
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yeah. I'm too interested in it. Ages. Yeah. Ages. Ages and ages. Mhmm. Yeah. I thought I'd a little bit. To you, Paul, as a personal favor to me, would you please look into it? Because if for no other reason, the, the lack of freedoms of speech and how you basically put, body parts on the chopping block every week. It would be as far as an affidavit, as far as, declaration of of yourself as an English national, it is like insurance. It's better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it. And when they knock down your door and drag you away, that's too late.
You can't go back. So as a personal favor to me, please look into it.
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Andy Hitchcock is used to say, those who have an answer for everything, that was his moniker for them, they don't have an answer for this. Because when they're confronted with it, they stay on mute, and they do it every time.
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Well, we'll see. I think we're in the period of violence, you see. You know this. We're definitely in a period of violence. Oh, that's absolutely where we are.
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And That's what all this is for. That's what your grooming gangs are for. That's what these and these Afghans that are doing grooming gangs, I heard are from a a real specific area of Afghanistan. It doesn't apply to all of them, but this one sect is particularly rowdy, evidently. So so I'm just I hear these things out of England, Paul. I can't help but think of you because we care so much about you, and and it just breaks my heart.
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Well, Paul Well, my mind's not broken. Mine's not broken and I'm not dispirited. There there are things going on because I hear things. I have good little conversations with people. There are there are a lot of people who are tuned in still waiting to muster correctly, but it's happening. It's things are there are symptoms of, a beating heart still left in the nation. And I was, heard something the other day. I don't know if it was on the show last night, but, for example, somewhere up in the North Of England, there's a, a unit. I think they're called The Guard. These are blokes who have muscles and attitude.
They're our men. They have a lot of ex military men in there, and they are safeguarding streets so that girls don't get kidnapped. It's just the beginning of it. It's going it will have to happen because nature is gonna put energy into our breasts as it were, like it has to, if it wants us to carry on. And some of our people are gonna require some enormous kicks up the arse. Yes. I might well be one of them, and I'm quite happy to receive it. If it kicks me in the right direction, I don't mind. I think it's, you know, there's a a relatively small number of people with the right attitude, but it is growing. The speed of it is,
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always too slow. You know, we want it overnight, but, it's going at its own pace. Here's another important corollary to you over there. I heard yesterday that the IRA is getting reorganized and shows signs of life. I am and I used to get all these things confused in their little dialectics. Was the IRA was that IRA and Sinn Fein? Were those the the combatants up there in that one of them? Well, Sinn Fein was the political wing of the political party of the IRA. Yeah. Okay. Was IRA Catholic or Protestant?
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Catholic, I guess, because, yeah, it would have been Catholic. It was for it was from the main it was from Ireland in the main looking to, reintegrate Northern Ireland, and that's that's part of it. Yeah. Well, that they're they're kicking up there down too. Just just heard it day or two ago. Yeah. There are things happening. People are their fuses are getting are popping and things are happening. I mean, it's it's just, you know, in the past, the minds of people could take it
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anymore. I'm mad as hell, and I ain't gonna take it anymore.
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Paul, I'm trying to get in. I'm Yeah. Come on, Brent. I'm sorry. Thanks. That's alright, Roger. The discussion is good. I mentioned to ask a question. I learned about a, a parliament member up there. He's an Irishman, and he is the unofficial leader, the way I get it, of the Labor Party. And he was arrested not too long ago at one of the airports.
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Oh, this is Galloway.
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Galloway. That's him. Yeah. Yep. Yeah. So, obviously, there's a problem, but you said a while ago you didn't wanna get arrested. Is, what we're saying here being broadcast in Britain, and is it dangerous for you to talk?
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I don't think so. I think if you say anything if you pass any criticisms about, transgender people, you can get locked up now. I understand. I've gotta look into it. But somebody things are mad. It's all about this control of language and perception and blah you know all this stuff. So that's what is going on. So it the the bully boy is in full flow, and they're only gonna become ever more bullied.
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Here's your case. He's in his early twenties. I don't remember what part of the country. He put something on Twitter, and he didn't make any threats. He just said I'm tired of, and he started listing a couple of things. They put him in jail and sentenced him to twenty months.
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Yes. It was a it was a female judge that did that. Yes. And at the same time or within a similar sort of time frame, she also did not send to prison a pedophile. Right. And that's by design. This is definitely by design to do this, and for it to be publicized. They must have this publicized. This is part of the psychological demoralization process to create an unhingedness in the people. Because you see all these comments, well, I see many of them. This is, you know, they say things like, this is ludicrous. This is nonsense. Yeah. From from the old perspective, you're right. We're not in that. They're resetting a context. And, you know, people need to find a new language of dealing with it. We have to stay calm. I I really do mean that. Right. Yeah. Here's a twist. Here's a twist on
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women will rule over you and women judges will be your oppressors.
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Women and children will rule over you. And that's what we do. I know. I I a twist on the phrase. Well, let's I like it. No. It's right. It's right. We should make a plea.
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I've done this before. A plea for femininity. Because without femininity, men, the contrast is not drawn, give you a case in point. Of course, we've heard the stories about Jenny Geddes, the woman with the milking three legged milking stool that started the started the reformation in full force in Scotland. And then, over here in America, a lady by the name of, Barbara Fritke, Barbara Fritke, Stonewall Jackson, command well, that's a that's a poem. It's a good one. But then I'm gonna give you what happened to me not too long ago. And, this is missus Brent. And we were at Walmart.
Well, it's the we were at the largest or the smallest super Walmart in the world. It's not pretty close here to Terre Haute, Indiana in the Wabash Valley. And it was during the heat of COVID, and we never wore a mask, and we didn't walk the right direction in the aisles and made a point of not doing that. Went to Walmart late at night, coming through the line. Missus Brent did not have a mask on. I didn't either. And the lady at the cash register said she wouldn't check missus Brent out. And she got incensed and said, no. You will check me. Oh, she got hotter than a pistol.
Mattered in an old wet hem like my mother says. Well, the man standing behind her pulled his mask down. He said to missus Brent, he said, you're right. And missus Brent, by that time, of course, her the female being more deadly than the male and her dander was up. She said to him she said to him, well, if I'm right, why don't you get some balls and take that mask off?
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And you know what it means? I think it's a good use of that word. That seems appropriate under those circumstances.
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Under those and she's a Christian. She is a Christian lady, I might add, or a strong one, and reads your Bible every day and reads it out loud. As a matter of fact, it listens to it. But at any rate, there comes a point where, ladies have to say, men, you're supposed to handle this and you're not handling it. And I, she appreciated what he said, but if he really believed it, he need to jerk that diaper off his head and quit looking like a fool. Well, she did that. Of course, like any woman, any female, she came back to her senses then, after that and was a little calmer.
But that's what we need. We need men. And you said this while ago. I caught it, Paul. You said English men and English women. You didn't say us here in England. You distinguished you made a point, maybe out of habit, of distinguishing the male from the female. That's all we have to do. We don't have to make a big production out of it. We just need to always remember there's a difference between the male and the female, and God will honor that. I believe he will, and he'll fight for us. He'll fight for us if we just say the truth, if we believe it and and know it, if we know it and say it, if we're afraid to say it, I don't believe he'll fight for us. Matter of fact, he says in the book of Ezekiel that if we don't say the truth, that, when the hell falls, on, the the the wrong headed man, it'll fall on us too because we're not saying the truth. We don't need to be belligerent.
There may come that may come. Yes. I mean, physically belligerent, but in the meantime, we just say the truth. We're going through the declaration of 76, not anywhere in that document. Is there any saber rattling, any call to arm? None of that. Just saying the truth. And I You do Go ahead. You do realize, Brent, that
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as somebody who wants to say the truth, you're a scoundrel, don't you? Like, there was a little quote I read out yesterday from Menken who I, write very highly. Fantastic. How about this? This one I just stumbled across the other day. This describes everybody here, I think. It's, he wrote, the truth indeed is something that mankind, for some mysterious reason, instinctively dislikes. Every man who tries to tell it is unpopular and even when, by the sheer strength of his case, he prevails, he is put down as a scoundrel. So as a fellow scoundrel, I salute you because, I think that nails, a key part of it. It is true. People bridle and leave the conversation when the truth is coming near to the fire. They it's like pulling people too near to the fire, and they get fidgety. And they don't want it because they're gonna get upset.
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They can't cope with it. It's tricky. American jewel, H. L. Menken. I think there's one video on the Internet of him before he died in a old audio tape thing. But I remember reading a story of somebody that knew him. And he he would he'd go off off and with a typewriter and he'd do all his writing there solo alone. And so somebody that knew him, and he said he snuck around the corner of the building around the corner and looked in there, and he typed something out. And then he just started laughing hysterically and slapping his knee.
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Don't you do that when you have a thought? I do that all the time. I'm sat there noodling on something. I think of some crazy idea, burst out laughing, And I'm going, I'm really losing it. I thought, well, you know, at least I'm entertaining myself. It might as well, you know, go mad in the privacy of your own home. It's not too bad. At least you don't upset everybody. Let me see if Paul and I are in sync here. Paul, you don't have your finger on that Minkin quote, do you?
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Of course I do, but it will take I knew you would, so I set him right up. Boom. We're listen. Paul Paul and I are like, Johnny Carson and Ed McMahon. We got a we got a pretty good thing going here. Why don't you just putt that for a minute? I don't I wonder if Paul's heard this.
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Yeah. It it'll take me just a moment. I have to move some things out of the way and get No. He's one of my favorites.
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What a what a poignant, pointed, oh, sarcastic, right on the edge way of delivering his message. Hey, for the audience, H. L. Mencken, he was, I believe, one of the editor one, one of the, editorialists at the Baltimore Sun back in the early
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twenties. Hey, copper winner.
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Yeah. He's brilliant. Oh, went away with words. When people were allowed to write.
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Yeah. And they At least he was, He had a way of character to get it through, but it's tremendous stuff. Maybe it's when some of the newspapers were still independent. They didn't weren't all owned by the commies.
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So mute We've got we've got somebody here that's unmuted. Yeah. There's a little conversation in the background, please. Oh, that's Chris in California. I'm gonna mute you, dude. We're doing the make and quote. We're going now. Let's make sure that we don't have anybody else unmuted. I think that I'll go hunting for him. There we go. Okay.
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I wanna share this quote from Sovereign to Surf by Roger s Sales, and the quote is from h l Menken, Baltimore Evening Sun, 02/12/1923. And I think many of us during these last nine hundred plus days, have experienced this in seeing that, few really desire liberty. So the quote is, the fact is that the average man's love of liberty is nine tenths imaginary, exactly like his love of sense, justice, and truth. He is not actually happy when free. He is uncomfortable, a bit alarmed, and intolerably lonely. Liberty is not a thing for the great masses of men. It is the exclusive possession of a small and disreputable minority like knowledge, courage, and honor.
It takes a special sort of man to understand and enjoy liberty, and he is usually an outlaw in democratic societies.
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Woo
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hoo. Roger?
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Yes, Brent. Well, who
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who was that that just read? Nastasha. Oh, thank you, Nastasha. Well, it's the truth. And, of course, if you're right headed in life, pretty soon, you're gonna find out. And I had older men tell me this when I was in my twenties. If you ever take the right position on something, it's really true, you'll defend the ground with others, then you'll defend it by yourself in time, and and you'll be standing by yourself. And I'm, got my three score and 10 in, and I'm standing by myself on a lot of things now. But the problem with some of that is when somebody like Macon says that, inevitably, folks will come along and think just being a radical fella and always saying what they wanna say is the thing to do, and that's not true either. We must and I've tried to learn how to do this. We must be careful the way we present the truth. We don't want to be unnecessarily offensive. Sometimes we have to be, but just calmly say it, and don't be looking as John Wycliffe of England said to his students when he sent them out with the Bible. He was the man that put the Bible in English for the first time, the whole Bible that is.
And he sent them out, and he said, don't look for a martyr's crown. Don't look to get yourself killed. Just go out and read this stuff on the byways and the crossroads. Don't look to be a martyr because it but if you read this book out loud, martyrdom will find you soon enough.
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Don't worry about it.
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It's true. Yep. Yep.
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Well, now Wickliffe, of course, he had that figured out, his experiences in life. And they came after him to kill him, but they didn't get to him in time. And he was somewhere wherever he was a little tiny church out in the country near the, I forget the name of the brook that ran by the church. They ended up burning his ashes after they dug his body up and dumped dumped oh, the River Swift. They call it the River Swift, where it wherever that is. I think it's on the West Coast, but you can look it up. He beat him to the punch and died of a stroke, and and they didn't get to kill him. So they dug him up, held a trial. Mhmm. Can you imagine holding somebody's skeleton up and having a trial? Good. Oh, here's the difference, though. And I wanna bring this out. I forgot to.
Wait. The truth, of course, isn't readily available. It as the Bible says, Romans one is buried under, overburden of wrong headedness. That's the really the way to translate that word wrongheadedness. Unrighteousness and and, Tyndale invented that word. It didn't exist before. It used to be, unrightwiseness indicating direction you're going wise, but he thought that was too cumbersome and I agree with him. So, righteousness is a good word, but it's become hackneyed till we just say it and it makes a pretty sound in our heads. And we don't think about what it means, but it means to have your nose pointed in the right or the wrong direction depending upon whether it's righteousness or unrighteousness. Well, Wycliffe, of course, he saw that difference. But we in our common law tradition, fundamentally, we don't think about it, but we have trials.
We know that the truth is buried and it's not going to bob forth without a fight. It will not bob forth without a fight, and it is enjoyable to watch in a trial, a cross examination. There's another feature of our common law that doesn't exist in the rest of the world, the law of the city, under cross exam they just use torture. We use cross examination. Under cross examination long enough and the truth inadvertently, unexpectedly bobs forth. And it makes all the difference in the world, but it takes work and time. That's why our common law tradition is fundamentally adversarial.
The law of the city tradition of the rest of the world is fundamentally inquisitorial. To put it in blunt term, the law of the city, truth is obtained through various levels of torture. In our common law tradition, truth is obtained through combat combat before the jury, trial or combat, but what we we used to say battle by trial, and now it's trial by battle, and all the rules are the same. What John march or John. Excuse me, Paul. What, I got John Marshall. I'm getting to know John Marshall. I quite like the guy. He's quite good. John, you know, John Marshall, the people that knew him said he was the consummate stud when he was young because he was in the Continental Army and they'd have contests. He wasn't a lawyer at that time, but, he'd always win all the jumping and running and shooting contest. He would he was, quite the fella. But when he got older, of course, he wasn't that way. I wanna tell the story. If I got time, I I Yeah. Well, no. We got plenty of time. We're just This is about John Marshall wanting to visit with one of the Kentucky colonels because the Kentucky colonels were a a veterans organization that formed after the war with Britain.
And the fellows that were given free land around Cincinnati, Ohio and all around in there, a lot of them is in Kentucky, and they called themselves they're a veterans organization. They called themselves the Kentucky Colonels. Mhmm. And when they came to Washington, DC, they had a special tavern that was their tavern. That's where they hung out. It was their club, and they didn't let anybody else in there. And, of course, the tavern owner honored that when they came. Well, John Marshall wanted to talk to one of them. He was on the Supreme Court of the United States at the time. And he went to the tavern because that's when the boys ran from Kentucky, which was across the mountain. So he went in there and said, well, I want talk to so and so, and he's can I come in? They said, no. You can't come in.
You can't come in. They said, well, I gotta talk to him. Will you send him out? So they went and talked to this fellow he wanna talk to, and he said, no. He said, if he wants to come in here, he's gonna have to please me. Well, what do I need to do? John Marshall sent a message back. He said, you need to write me a poem, a poem that pleases me. And so Marshall's sitting outside on the bench and he pulls out a piece of paper and a pencil or something, and he thinks for a while and he finally writes this poem. And it got him in, and the poem went like this. In the cornfields of Kentucky, a mystery is born.
The cornfield is filled with colonels, and the colonels are filled with corn. And he was referring to them inside drinking corn liquor. See? The cornfields are filled with colonels, and the colonels are filled with corn. And then another revealing story about John Marshall, he was in Washington DC during market day, and he was kind of a got he got awful skinny and gangly, and he got older. He was, well, just an older he was an old man, and, he was there, and he didn't wear nice clothes. His clothes, they just get used to a coat, and he'd wear it dirty or tattered. And he was there, and a woman bought a turkey, for a quarter, which was enough money at that time, apparently. And he was standing close by, and she looked at me and thought he was some kind of a ragamuffin that needed some money. So she said to him, listen, young man. She was older than him, apparently.
I'll give you a quarter if you'll carry this turkey home. Follow me and carry it home because that's just too heavy for me to carry. Well, instead of saying, well, I'm the Supreme Court justice of The United States, he said, no problem. You got a quarter, and she gave him the quarter, and he carried the turkey home for her. That's apparently the kinda man that Marshall was. But this adversarial tradition of our common law, not John Marshall, but the other marshal over in England, he became the the man that really brought to the forefront the rules of jousting.
And the rules of jousting were the rules of trial by battle. And it became, of course, he was he got wealthy by the way, doing that. All over Europe, he was the champion. And he wasn't a member of the nobility the way I get it, but he had enough money. He could get the influence and he married him the way I get it. And he became advisor to the crown and all that. But the rules of chivalry that John Marshall brought to the front and center are the rules of our common law courts when we go to trial. There is no difference fundamentally. I mean, even to the point when you start a common law case, you've got to serve the other fellow notice of the dispute and the place of the contest and tell him if he wants to be there, he can. And if he doesn't show up, he's defaulted. Well, that's trial by combat in England. That's the way it works. It's also due process.
The and it's called due process. Yes. All of the rules are the same. I have I don't know all of them, but I know enough of them. By the way, there's a movie that came out recently about, combat by trial and famous actor. I don't I disremem he was the guy that was in Born Identity that wouldn't
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Oh, yeah.
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Well, whoever whatever his name Matt Damon. Damon. Yep. Matt Damon played the part of a, I think, a knight in Normandy, and his wife was raped by his best friend. She wouldn't back down and she wanted something done about it. So they went to trial and lost and they appealed by permission. You have to have permission to appeal, say, at common law, it's not a fundamental right. And so he got permission from the court to appeal to God. And trial by battle is the final appeal to the maker of heaven and earth. That's part of the Christian way of looking at it. And he did.
And his wife, of course, was the only witness, the other witness. There were two witnesses, the guy that she claimed raped her and her, the only witness. And so they appealed to battle and whoever lived, had the favor of God and it was justified. But if he lost, she would be executed for being a false witness. So they both had to agree, husband and wife in this particular instance, to trial by battle. And she was willing to do it, appeal to God because her honor, of course, and his was soiled. I'm just giving you something. Hollywood is good for, well, as they say, what comes out of Hollywood is no good, and fundamentally, that's true. But in some of these movies, there are good examples to teach us about law and our common law because these movies are made in an English speaking world. Well, Roger, thank you very much, Paul English, for dropping in and, giving us your take on trial by jury and what's going on there.
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And, Nice to hang out. Always nice to hang out. Well,
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you know, unless you gotta go, Brent, certainly, we're we can stick around, and this is one of those occasions that I would like to with Paul joining us on one of these, type of occasions. So if you gotta go, though, I understand that too.
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Well, no. I'll I'll hang around a little bit. It gets to the point where, my blood sugar drops, and then I do have to get something to eat. And I've learned now I can turn my mic off while I'm chomping, and it doesn't offend people as much. Right. Yeah. Yeah. You know what I Roger, what's that? You wouldn't offend us if you had it on. So But what? I would No. It it would it would lend atmosphere to the show. It would Atmosphere.
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I don't know. It's not like crunching.
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It I like a meal to it. Chew it on marbles. That's kinda what a mouse do. But when I when I was a political animal, we'd go to meetings. Of course, those of us running for office would set up front because and it was a big feed, always a meal. You know? You don't wanna talk to a hungry crowd, so you you talk after. And, I tried to make a lot of them, of course, and I, they'd have the feed before we spoke. And, of course, I'm sitting at this long table up by the podium up there with all the other people running for office, and and they'd bring us our food. And, I'm hungry.
And so I tried to eat. Well, I found out I shouldn't do that, and I had other people advise me, don't eat in front of that crowd because you're running for office. They're watching everything you do. And they'll watch you eat, and then they'll make fun of you. And I found all that was true. So I just quit eating when I ate before I went. And and then when I get up, I eat it. And then miss Francine has told me, Brent and I'm on, public platform, and sometimes I get hungry, and I'll try to nibble on something while I'm making my presentation. It doesn't work. And she said, I don't wanna watch you eat, and other people don't either, so I quit doing that. But, with this, I Gotta love Francine.
Yeah. Oh, well, she's that feminine influence that makes things a little better. You know? Uh-huh. Mhmm. Missus Brent is here. People think for a long time, they thought, well, Francine is missus Brent, but she isn't. And so finally, I saw that was coming out in the chat, and so I corrected that. I have a number of women in my life, females, and, I have, my mother. She's, up in her about 95 or somewhere in there. And I have missus Brent, and I have five daughters. And, that's enough. That's enough. I don't need any other woman telling me what to do. They tell me. Yeah. Oh, yeah. They think they're entitled to tell me what to do. Now sometimes, of course, I'm glad they do, But I tried to encourage them. If you're going to tell me what to do, ladies, come with your hat in your hand as it were and be respectful.
Don't be bossy. And I I say that to all women out there. Don't be bossy. It won't work. You may think it's working, it doesn't, and it will destroy. Men can't help it. Men can't help it. They're put in this position of husband and father, and it's a different position than their wives, and they're responsible for everything. And even and God doesn't bless brains. Keep that in mind, women. God does not bless brains or brawn. That's good Bible. It says that. And what he blesses is his order. And that means that we all learn to show respect going up. That's that's that is front and center in the kingdom of God.
I had a hard time learning it because I, I came from a pretty rough environment, there, off the farm and where we, well, we didn't pay attention to that kind of things. It was just those kind of things. If you just, if you just, didn't fall out of line, if you did fall out of line, somebody put the whooping on you, they'd attack you verbally in an ugly way. And I've tried to learn not to do that. Respect and decency are Christianity. Oh, we were Christian. We were just rough Christian, I should say. Yes. I'd my father is 99.
I still talk to him, and he, he brings me back to center too, and he beats me up too. And I can't say he's real tactful about it. You know, I thank God, often that my father, I still got him around, to beat me around a little bit. You need to. I need it. Oh, lord. I tell him that. I don't, you know, I don't care. I know I make a lot of mistakes, and he gets upset. But, I can't tell you how thankful I am, but I still got you around. Well, slap me back in line if you think I need it. I think he's wrong in a lot of cases. And when I do and by the way, he's not responsible for my behavior anymore, but I listen to him.
And, I don't want to cross him. I must I've my brother and I I have an older brother. He's eighteen months older than me. We both say, boy, we're fortunate. We can still try to learn how to show respect to our father. Yes. When when he's abusing us verbally. And, you know, it's what God wants. So that's okay. That's okay. I sure wish I had mine around, Brent. I get it. I get it. My my. Somebody said something. Yeah. Who was it?
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Hey, Brent. Did missus Brent did missus Brent get her groceries checked out at the cashier that time when the man behind y'all were wearing a mask?
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Yeah. Through sheer intimidation, she intimidated him. She and she said this by the way. She said, I will not be intimidated by this stupidity. I remember her saying that at that time, and she said it more than once. You're not gonna intimidate me. Now that's the way a woman ought to be when things are wrong, but she should never be that way to her husband. Amen. Ever, ever under any circumstances. If it's bad, if it's bad enough, if it's bad enough and and your husband's abusing you physically, run. That's your duty. Right. But, fighting won't work. I tell you that as somebody who has had his head in the Bible for a lot of years, been married for about fifty years, and have has done a lot of counseling of marriages.
Lots. Never works. I did.
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Didn't didn't the cashier say I'm not gonna check you out? I'm not gonna check out your items?
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Oh, no. No. She got them checked out. No. No. They they've been. You know, it's just a matter when it comes to evil, just
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not giving in. Yeah. Exactly. Just don't rebut the presumption.
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Yeah. It doesn't mean you'll always get what you want, but don't give in. The Bible says it this way. The savior says it this way. Resist the evil one and he will flee from you. Now it's been my experience for what it's worth. This is a testimony of my experience. This resistance of which Jesus Christ speaks is a resistance that must be persistent, and it doesn't happen quick. You just well, I think Paul said a while ago, this is an oh, yeah. He did say this. He said, this is not I I won't quote his words, but he said, this is an ongoing struggle. This is not something we can let up on.
Here here is Magna Carta. And as soon as Magna Carta was in place, they went right back to trying to kill each other again. That really happened. And, and, well, that really happened, and it's still happening here. They're not letting up. England didn't let up. England came up the powers that be in England came after Americans. They were burning their coastal villages, inciting the merciless red man, it says in our declaration of '76, to against us who make no distinction between at that time, they made no distinction between age, sex, and physical infirmity. They just murdered everybody.
All of those things are true. Life is as a Christian man or woman, life is never ending warfare, and our captain says, obey my orders. Do not go about making your own standards or what how you ought to handle this. And if you don't know what the book says, you don't know what the orders are, and you can never let up on trying to learn what the book says. You'll you'll learn more and more and more, and you'll understand it better and be able to apply it in different circumstances more distinctly.
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But if you're trying to yeah. Somebody said something. Go ahead. Yeah, John. Grant, so so so did the cashier call the manager, or did she just start checking out the items on her own without calling the manager?
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She just checked them out. Yeah. The the gal there just checked. And by the way, we never had I never had any problem. I never had any problem during those days with the men. It was the female, the species, working that checkout counters and gas stations Absolutely. Where the problem came from, and it got vicious at some points. Not to tell all the stories, but all I said was, no. I'm not playing that goofy game. I'm not, I believe and I I said this is a first minute amendment question. One time I said to a lady in a grocery store, this is in, along the coastal ranges in California, I said, if you'd like to explain this to a federal judge, I I can arrange that.
Other than that, check me out.
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And I'm I mean,
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I I it got to that point. Now usually, if you can be calm and, you know, the Bible says that a man that can control his spirit is stronger than a man that conquers a city.
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Absolutely.
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And how do I know that experientially? Do I know that? Yes. How do I know it? Because I have not always been in control of my spirit. Yep. To be in control of your spirit, not lose your cool is power. And to be respectful at the same time with power, the the our commander, our captain commands us that, and he tells us how to handle it. Just say the truth. That's all you gotta do, and then act upon it if you get the opportunity. But don't hear I tell my boys, don't square off with a man that's got the drop on you. You're gonna lose. Do not square off with a man that's got the drop on you. In other words, he's got his pistol pulled. Don't pull yours. It's too late. Don't be stupid.
That's being really stupid. Germany did that. JPAN did that. And I say this with all due respect, the evil forces that were controlling the Confederacy here in America did that and they were destroyed. I don't care what your issue is, and I don't care how right you are. When it comes to force and violence, be careful. Be careful. And so don't square off. There used to be a famous country song. It was Hank Williams Jr. And the name of the song was Attitude Adjustment. Do you remember that, Roger? Vaguely. Yes. Well, you remember Paul? One of them, but he said Yeah. It's look it up and listen to it. And what he's saying in the whole thing is that, it ain't right. It's stupid to, to, to square off with somebody that's more powerful than you. Now Jesus Christ addresses that particular problem too.
And when he says, he said, well, two things are said in the Bible resist evil, and it will flee from you. And the King Jimmy King Jimmy's boys then translate his comment and say, re, do not resist evil. Well, what's the deal? How could the Bible say those are contradictory statements? There are no contradictions in the Bible. What's the problem? Well, the problem is that it's just a simple matter of translation. When Jesus Christ said, do not resist evil, what it says there is, to be more particular, it says, do not square off with the evil man. You'll lose.
There are other ways to fight him. That's the point. This is guerrilla warfare. That's why Jesus Christ said There is. He, why is as serpents and harmless as doves in this warfare? But follow my directions. Do not square off. Yeah. Somebody's gonna say something. Paul.
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Well, that's exactly why I asked Paul to look up the, whatever declaration he's gotta make to declare his status in England. That is tantamount to squaring off with somebody that's got the drop on you. Yeah. Because
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once they have you in cuffs, it's too late. You can declare all you want, and nobody's gonna listen to you. So Like in that song says Hank Williams junior, the cops show up. His his wife calls the cops on him. That's why it's all kind of funny. And they show up with a Rin Tin Tin, you know, and billy clubs and all that. And he says, you ain't gonna arrest me. And they said, oh, yes. We will. And they will. You know? They're they'll just call him back up, and they'll get you down sooner or later. And, so don't square off. And that what that means is do not square off and, in a blow by blow, I'm going to knock you down. And the last man standing wins when they've got more power than you. Remember the government of the United States has the, has the army, the Navy, the air force, the Marine, the IRS, the FBI, the CIA, NSA, BLM. I mean, you name it. They got it. Well, hell, all the agencies are armed now. And they're armed. They have a militarized
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police force.
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And they have all been yeah. You're make a good point. They've all been militarized. But what scares them? I'll tell you what scares them. What scares scares them more than anything in the world, just the truth. And don't be don't be dramatic about it. Just say it. Learning, it takes a lot to learn how to just number one, keep your mouth shut. Don't talk back to them. Don't talk to them at all. That's being wise as a serpent. Use the fifth amendment. That's a bad that's a not a bad. That's a good weapon that can do some bad damage to them.
And they don't like it. Oh, they don't like it. Don't talk to them. They'll go crazy. But don't be violent against them. That won't work. Well, when they got Wise.
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Not wise.
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Yes. And I say that, I say that again, just to give personal testimony is a lawyer that's tried to help people that have done that and have tried to help people that have been abused physically by the police. How do we handle all this? Well, being wise as serpents, that means you gotta know something. You can't be wise, friends, unless you work at knowing something about what right the right way to react is. Again, our captain tells us. And the more you soak the word of God in mental sod, the more you're gonna be equipped. But if you're not doing that on a daily basis, remember, I said missus Brent listens to the Bible every day. We were talking just the other day. Well, I wanna encourage people to do that. I'm encouraging it here. Reading reading is good.
But in today's world, and it's been this way for decades, who has who can find time to be relaxed? You get up in the morning, you hit the deck running, and then you stop at night and collapse and wanna have a little time by yourself, and then you fall asleep. That's the way the devil wants it. That's that's why he's worked at this way. So what do you do? Well, reading isn't mandatory, but listening is. And in our day of modern technology, we can listen to the Bible. I recommend to you. I hate those people that read the Bible and have that background music. That's just distracting. Yeah. But the first man, the first man to read the Bible, all of the Bible and record it all, he read the King James Bible. It was back in the nineteen fifties. I'm trying to remember his name.
I like his recordings better than anybody that that's ever did. He used to do it. He did it over a period of years. One chapter at a time, it was a famous American actor, an actor. So he had spent his life working on his voice. Now somebody told me Charlton Heston had done the same thing. I, but I like this guy. I almost said his name, but you can look him up, but we have no excuse. We can find time to listen to the Bible while we work. While we drive, you can get apps on your cell phone. You can just punch them and listen and listen and listen. And if you're not disciplined to do it, just look at you. Oh, I'm afraid it'll be boring. Think of it like brushing your teeth. You do it before you go to bed. You don't feel like doing it every time you're so tired, bone tired. You wanna collapse, but you do it.
Taking a bath, taking a shower, same way. It's a matter of discipline, but you'll the the, the benefits of it are very satisfying, my friends. Listen to it. We talked about first John. Some people on this presentation. I said, read first John every morning when your mind is fresh, thirty days in a row, every morning, you'll be shocked at what you discover and you'll discover something more than one thing new every time you read it. And some of you did that and reported back said, I did that. Well, now what I want to say too, in addition to that, you can do that, but listen to it. Listen to it. Thirty days every day, every morning, thirty days. A lot of people listen to the beauty of technology. A lot of people listen to what we do on Patriot Soapbox.
And, I read the chat, they'll say, wow. I listened to Brent and got my whole kitchen cleaned up. You know, they'll be having their earphones on with their cell phone listening. And a Christian folk are the ones that have always been on the cutting edge of technology. I find that fascinating. The same was true with the printing press when it came out, and the same was true with the television, the BBC friends, the BBC, and people complain about the BBC. Now I'm a go read the mission statement, or my memory is that the mission statement of the BBC was to communicate the gospel of Jesus Christ.
That was the mission statement. Of course, they don't do that now. They do just the opposite. The mission failed. Mission failed. But my point being, the Christian folk wanted to try to do that. They tried it and it didn't work because as one fellow said, you can't really do a good job of communicating the gospel using images because it's too akin to idolatry. One of the founders of the BBC said that. He was a Canadian named, Malcolm Muggeridge. Malcolm Muggeridge. He said that I've discovered it's impossible to communicate the gospel of Jesus Christ using images on television. And that's what television is.
And that's something that he'd say that that's his conclusion. It is. Yeah. But radio, see, listen, Bible teaching occurs on radio before we had internet. It did not occur on television hardly at all. Some, but very little. A charismatic Christianity was on television. Why? Because they're attuned to pretty things. But Bible teaching exclusively was on Christian radio and it was everywhere in America. I could drive across America and I did a lot from, Terre Haute, Saint Louis West. There was no place I couldn't drive. If I'd start to lose a Christian station, I just adjust the dial a little bit and I could catch the next one. And it's still true.
But the Bible is not taught on television because it doesn't take much. I mean, people have tried it a little. I know. There used to be, good old time gospel hour with Jerry Falwell and all that and others, but it really took on radio. And as that one fella said that wrote a book well, best seller book back in the eighties called Amusing Ourselves to Death. Forget his name. He's professor of communications at New York University. And he opens the book with a quote from the Bible, And the quote was, it said this, when I spoke to you on the mountain, you saw no similitude. This is God speaking to the Israelites.
He said, you saw no similitude. A similitude that's King James. A similitude is a likeness, a similarity, an icon, an image, a picture, icon, or a idol, a statue. You saw nothing, but you only heard the sound of a voice. There's not a stronger statement in the Bible against against idolatry than that statement. And our God is the God that we cannot see. And he forbids. He made us in his image. The Bible says that he utterly forbids us to return the compliment and say, oh, here's what he looks like. A picture of Jesus, a statue, a crucifix.
So evil, evil, evil, all of those things. But yet we get sucked into it, and idolatry. So we need to hear the word of God. Faith, the Bible says, comes by hearing. There's another monumental statement against idolatry. The Shema of Israel or Deuteronomy six, They call it the Shema spoken the world over, has been for centuries, the creed. Here. Listen, oh Israel. Yehoah. He happens, our law giver, is one, is unit is unified, echad, law giver. Everything about him is consistent in the unity. A unity that's fundamental to Christianity. And the council of Chalcedon and Nicaea backed that up, although that's not the Bible. But they made it clear, yes, this is what the Bible teaches.
Well, Roger,
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are you still there in my book? I'm here. Yeah. I'm here. Question. Go
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ahead. Somebody else. Quest
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for Paul English?
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Paul English? Yeah. I'm still here.
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Hello.
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Hi.
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What the latest thing I heard about England was that some man some of some official type man said nobody can work if they don't have the digital ID. Did you hear that? What do you think about that?
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I think it's a jolly good idea. I can't wait. Yes. Sir sir Keir Starmer said that about two months back. And,
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you know, nudge nudge week to say no more. Is it is it half has it started happening?
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I think it started happening twenty five years ago, to be quite honest. I think the digital ID kind of, exists in all these different sort of, you just think about the way that you're tracked with your Internet usage. So it's just incremental. It's a little bit here and a little bit there so that people in the end go, oh, we're we're already in it anyway. So, I mean, if there is any work over here, yeah, none of us want any of these things, but, we're not allowed to speak. So it's a bit of a problem at the moment. But, yes, he did say that. No one's into it. There is I hear all sorts of things. There will be a big kickback and pushback against it, I'm assuming.
I'll be part of that. We're just gonna have to see what they get up to. But I think as they keep increasing the speed of all of these things, the positive is that more and more people are getting riled up, with ever increasing speed. So it's good. Normal people are going, I don't want that. And that's that's very powerful stuff. It's just very simple. No. We don't want any of this nonsense. So there's a lot of understanding that we don't want it, that we don't need it, that it's completely goofy, but they're able to get away with an awful lot of goofy things, unfortunately. We will see. We will see.
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Thank you. Galloway came up earlier. There Tucker just interviewed him. I watched it the other night. Have you heard all about that, Paul?
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Which one,
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is where he got stopped at got got Gathaway? Gathaway? What which airport that is? Coming back into the country, and they've got a new law that coming in in that situation, they can stop you and take all your electronic
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devices and stuff. Yeah. I saw I saw part of that interview. Did you? And he goes, well Piers Morgan that he was talking to, wasn't he? Piers Morgan?
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Is it Piers Morgan, though? No. No. No. It was Tucker.
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And, Yeah. Tucker talking to Piers Morgan.
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No. This was him interviewing George Galloway directly. Oh, alright. Okay.
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He mentioned the same thing when he was talking to Piers Morgan. Probably. He got pretty
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uptight about it. Well, this law allows him to stop you. Was it Gathaway Gathaway Airport? Gatwick. Gatwick. One of the big ones. And they can stop you and take all your electronic devices. You can't do anything about it. And they he says, well, you're you're not under is Amar under arrest. No. But you can't leave. You gotta stay. And I I gathered they went through all their electronic stuff and then let them go finally, but he's not coming back in the country. He was ticked.
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I don't blame him. It was a,
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yes. He came over here, and he I know he did an interview, yeah, with Piers Morgan, that wonderfully charming British artist Yeah. Yeah. Of media. Champion
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of freedom.
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Yeah. I mean, these guys are just so confident and know so little, and, they don't want to know either. So it's, yeah, that was quite telling. But, yeah, he mentioned that in that interview. You know, sort of like what's hap you know, the the gist of the interview was what's happened to England. Of course, Morgan seems to think it's all okay.
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Yes.
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Yeah. Yeah. And and, really, he's atypical of the actual problem. It's that. He typifies the root problem, which is, to me, it does anyway, an indifference of my supposed kith and kin to, to the outcome of the lives of everybody else because he's a wealthy man, you know, and they they talk about this as if they're part of the problem, but they're not. They and they'll never see it. I'm not even I'm slightly ticked off about it, but I shouldn't be. It's a waste of energy. They're not going to see it. They live in a bubble. And,
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it's just the fact that they're trying their time, You know? Right. That's right. That's right. That's right. That's right. Evidently by, bringing all these conservatives on. If he hasn't had him already, he's about to have Nick Fuentes on, who I'm I Nick Fuentes is is some sort of a phenomena at 26 years old to have the control, and knowledge and understanding of things to come out and pontificate the way he does. He's he's quite a phenomena. Okay? And Piers Morgan. But I I like, Say that again. He was what was it, Paul? Something like that. I like Piers Morgan.
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I I like him. I liked him a lot, particularly on Britain's Got Talent because he'd never said anything political on that show. It's the only place I liked him. I really liked it in Britain's Got Talent.
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Anyway, so he's, I heard Brianna, the new morning gal on Infowars, he's trying to get her on, and she turned him down. It really ruffled his feathers. So, anyway, interesting times developing.
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Yep. Very interesting. There was a there was an exchange, actually, a part of the, interaction between Piers Morgan and Tucker Carlson, where Carlson started to talk about I mentioned this last night. He started talking about the Red Indians. And, he made, what I think is a pretty accurate sort of comparison. He said, if you look at the Red Indians in America today, he said they're a defeated people. They've lost their way of life, all this kind of stuff, you know, which is true, I guess. I mean, I don't know the situation intimately. Of course, I wouldn't. But from a distance, that's what it has always appeared to be. And he said, I'm looking at the English, and I'm seeing a people in a similar state, which, of course, I found rather chilling, but it's true.
There's an aspect of that that's absolutely true. And and so the people of this nation are, running a great risk of losing a connection to the their store their story, our story as a people. Yes. Because you have to have one. You have to have a mythology about who you are because you have to you can't explain everything through 10,000 page history books. People don't read them for a start. So you need a shorthand version that's got to tell the story. Most people have grown up and known what it was, and, it compelled me to go off and read, I was talking about this last night, Scalp Dance by, Tom Goodrich. I don't know if you guys have ever read that.
It's it's the history of the of the winning of the West after the war between the states. Basically, the US army and settlers versus the Indians. It's an amazing book. Absolutely amazing. It it caused all sorts of new ideas to jump into my head and how basically, underinformed I am about that period of history. I also suspect that most Americans are, but you'll have to shoot me down if you think I'm being cocky from a distance because Well, nope. But I can't believe it. Something. We've got a great student. She's one of the original listeners from fifteen years ago, Kaye.
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She's written 19 or 20 or more Indian romance novels. Right. She goes back and researches all that stuff on all those tribes. I mean, she doesn't just do it lightly. She is tow totally involved and is quite knowledgeable about all those tribes in that Indian time back there. One of the ones that's particularly interesting is the Iroquois, which I think we're up in where Paul lives up that Northeast part of the country. But they had a well, some of our government was patterned after the way they did things in the tribe. K? And one of the interesting things that they had was before anything was activated as a law or something, it went through the try the tribunal or whatever of old women, not old men.
And, just interesting. But she's she's very knowledgeable on it, Kaye is.
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I suspect. I mean, I don't know. But if she read Tom's book, she'd probably never write another romance novel in her life. Oh, okay. It might be. I don't know. I don't know if you're familiar with her. It. Don't ruin your career. Don't ruin your career here, Paul. I mean, it it lays it it lays waste to the common notion of what was actually taking place. I mean, these people, if you wanna call them that, in in war conditions are horrific. It's horrific.
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Oh, yeah. And,
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you know, I was saying last night, I thought there is is there a requirement to actually make proper westerns about that period? I mean, you it will be triple x rated. It's It's just off the charts disgusting. It's it's absolutely foul. And, I it's it's not that long ago. This is the thing that gets Midoriya what? Not that long ago at all. And we've been sold the same story that you've been sold courtesy of all the Hollywood westerns and everything. It it wasn't like that. That's not what was going on. It's, an amazing story. There's obviously a massive description in there about the battle at Little Bighorn, which is, it's just riveting. The reason why the book is so good is that Tom really didn't write it. He he basically compiled it and glued it all together.
Mhmm. He's he's not even present as an author, which I think is brilliant. That's when you know it's good. It's all the notes written by the combatants in their diaries, in their letters to their wives, in interviews with newspapers afterwards. It's in their words, and it comes the impact of it is astonishing. I'm assuming I was saying last night that that most Americans will not be aware of that. The true nature of the whole thing, it's and, you know, the Indians did get defeated. And as I read the book, I went, good. How about that? I went, good. You don't want people like that behaving right. But, of course, I'm just a snotty Englishman on the other side of the world. But, generally, I couldn't find an ounce of sympathy for them at all, the way they behaved. It's just a it's mad. It's mad. It's unbelievable. It's like it's from a different era. It's like ten thousand years ago. Savages literally go, oh, they're the noble savage. I couldn't find too much nobility now. I've gotta tell you. I have to look hard for that. Man's inhumanity to man.
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You you make a point, Paul, that they lost. And I they were mistreated in many ways. I get that. Yeah. They were. But they lost. And I agree. I think this gal that, Roger's talking about that writes a novel, she's from the county just south of me. Right. And she quit listening because I talk about what the red man was. We can't call them Indians anymore because there's so many Indians around, you know, from India India. Mhmm. So the red man is a good way to say it, and I say it that way. I don't, apologize for it. We must make a distinction somehow. I know nothing wrong with being a red man. Of course, they're not red anyway any more than we're white. You know, we're just kind of a very light brown or something. You know? Well, yeah, she I haven't heard from her in a long time, but the last movie or one of the last movies, Hollywood used to depict it properly to some degree.
John Wayne's most famous movie, The Searchers, was about the brutality, the utter unfathomable brutality of the of the Apache and the no. The Comanche. The Comanche. They were related to the Comanche, but the Comanche. And when you read about what they did and hear about what they did, no. Like you say, you don't have any sympathy. There's a lot of ways to deal with problems, whatever the problem was. I mean, they didn't have chivalry was not part of their world. That's right. Yeah. That's the point. They rape It is the point. Yeah. Rape rape in front of, a woman's children and husband and then put out his eyes and then kill him. That was the way they dealt with intimidation was all they knew. And those Comanches, they weren't a big, ugly people. They were actually a very small people, and they were pushed around by everybody.
But in a world where force and violence are the only thing that matters, they finally got atop of horses, and then they became the lord of the plains. They were good. No question about that, but they knew they knew nothing of mercy. As a matter of fact, when I read again, I read the research. Fundamental to a lot of these tribes was pain. If they could inflict pain on other people, even themselves in some instances, they appeased God or their gods or whatever they called them in different places. It was different. Over just over 1,500 white I'm talking Caucasian, Europeans. Oh, just over 1,500 were roasted alive
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Yes.
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In Kentucky alone, and that's just what we have on record. They're probably double, triple that. We don't know. The Shawnee did not have mercy on anybody. As a matter of fact, they were the ultimate racist. Yes. Like all people are left to themselves, they think they're better than everybody else. I mean, the name Cheyenne, by the way I get it I'm not a linguist of their language, but the way I understand that the word Cheyenne, a prominent plains tribe, means human being. And so the all the other tribes, all the other tribes were animals, and all the white men were animals too. So we can do to them what we wanna do, kinda like the Talmud says. You know? I was gonna say, sounds familiar. Well, it's the same thing. The Japanese the Japs said the same thing during the war. If you're, European or if you're American or, you know, you're you're less than human, so we can torture you and kill you. That's alright.
Not we're not that way. We're we're, the true people. That's the danger of not having the Bible as an influence in your culture. I wanted to get to this while ago. We're talking I didn't maybe I did. I don't remember. But well, yeah. I did. I did. Okay. I covered that. I'm I'm good with it. Oh, back to you, Roger or Paul or somebody was Well, I was just gonna say there's a,
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in terms of there's a a particular event in the book. I can't remember the names of the two. They're not protagonists. They're actually friends. One's a US army colonel or something like that. And there's an Indian an elderly Indian warrior that he's known for a long time, and they have mutual respect. They've been at peace. They never fought one. And, of course, one of the things that you could discover is that many of the Indians sided with the white man because they had personal vendettas and scores to settle with other tribes. You their entire sort of culture was basically what they were doing to the white guys, what they used to do to one another before we rocked up. Can can you do the African slave trade?
Yeah. We could yeah. That kind of stuff. And they they're they're talking anyway, and it there's just this little incident in the book. And, this Indian says to him, he said, look, I hear all these reports from other Indians and other white guys. He said, and I don't believe any of this. It's all rubbish. He said, you're the only white guy that I know that's ever really always told me the truth. And if you tell me a thing, I think it'll be true. So I want to ask you a question. So he said, yeah. What was the question? He said, the reports I keep receiving from Braves and and other people that go up north, I don't know where they were, that go up north or go up to the Northeast, is, he said, that there are millions and millions and millions of white people. He said this cannot be true.
Is it true? And he said to him, he said, there are more white people up there than you have leaves on your trees in your territory. And at that point, this is the bit was the guy's face dropped. It's like, and the way it's written, it's as if he died at that moment. As soon as he got that this was the case, everything fell into place, and he knew they literally had no future because of the way that they've been carrying on, and that they were just outnumbered to such a colossal degree that it was absolutely hopeless, this situation. And it made me think about what's been happening in Europe, right, with the influx. This is a numbers game. It's just piling people in, piling them and piling. You've got the same thing now. I mean, I I suppose, I don't know if it's ironic. I don't know what word to use, but, you know, so you dealt with Indians a hundred and seventy years ago, and now it's you're gonna have to do it again.
And we're having to do it, and no one wants to do it. I don't know if I'm getting being too dramatic here. There's something there's something gone awry in the soul of the white man. It really is. I mean and maybe it's what Solzhenitsyn said about the Russians. The problem is he said, we've the Russians forgot God, and it's definitely a major part of this. There's no two ways about it. It's a major part of it. People have lost the rudder, the root of their story of who they are. And, of course, the churches have not been helping because they tell this blithering nonsense to people and have been doing it for a long time. Oh, everybody come in. It's all gonna be great. It won't be great. I mean, if the history books, anything to go by, you start mixing huge numbers of different races together on the same bit of territory. This is my take. You might not agree with it. I'm not aware of it ever ever turning out good for no one. All parties are impoverished by it because nature won't have it. It's as simple as that. No matter it just will not have it. And it and that's, you know, it's a major major problem, and I believe our mutual enemy across the whole of what we would call Christendom knows this. And that's why they've been at the forefront of always porting aliens into our home nations. Always. Oh, yeah. Absolutely. That's the right of their game. Yep.
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Malcolm X took the same position, and he said what he called the black man in America will never prosper until he gets he stays among himself and prospers himself because he said whitey, if he's infused among us, we'll take advantage of us. And that from his perspective, that was what he saw. But, by the way, Cassius Clay, later Muhammad Ali, had the same conviction. So will that happen? Well, I stand with those guys. I stand with them. It happened in Tulsa, Oklahoma, and they they put an abrupt stop stop to it. Yeah. Yeah. So the forced this is why forced busing was such a problem in America because there were a lot of folks said, oh, we know history a little bit. This won't work. And it didn't. It didn't work. Instead of things getting better, they got worse. So then but we struggle. We struggle.
For example, with, Roger and I have talked about separate but equal. The Supreme Court of the United States says separate but equal is inherently unequal. So we're abandoning that doctrine. That was Brown versus Board back in the fifties.
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And and what that what was really happening there, I've come to conclude, Brent, was that was the last stage of their whole agenda and plan. But they had to get rid and overcome Plessy versus Ferguson. Because you couldn't have the two statuses that open. So they did Brown versus Board of Education. It overturned Plessy. And as I was putting this together, of course, who who you remember who the attorney was for the NAACP for Brown? Thurman, wasn't it? Thurgood Marshall, who was after that appointed to the bench. And then as I was putting all this together one day, and it kept bugging me as a city, third of of '54.
1954. 1954. And it hit me sixty days to the day after the Brown decision, board Uh-huh. With the 1954 internal revenue code in place, it's still with us today. It, to me, is the capstone of their hundred and hundred plus year agenda.
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You know, I say Roger, thanks. I say and I've listened to, somebody mentioned oh, Paul mentioned, Tucker Tucker Carlson. Yes. Tucker Carlson, another famous news babe. I forget her name. She's kinda glitters Kelly. Megan Kelly. Yeah. Megan Kelly. Now they're saying, look. We're not racist. They have to say that a lot now. We are not racist, but we believe that we like to believe that, other people, should have whatever opportunity they can have, but we gotta take care of ourselves. And if we don't take care of ourselves as Americans, for example, and take care of our own culture, then other people aren't gonna stand a chance anyway.
It's up to us to be the leaders. Our culture is the culture that has made us who we are. Yes. We talked about the roots of it. We talked about, going back and talked about, Magna Carta, and and we can go much further than that and should to understand the the flow of this thing from Europe and the connection, the cons the consonancy it has with the Bible. I don't wanna say the consistency, but the consonancy, to make that distinction, and it does. It is compatible with consonant with the Bible. We have that history and to not know that is to forget about it and not think it's important.
It was said a while ago again, all you fellas there said it. I didn't say it. We talked about we must have our, I forget the words you use. I know our our mythology. Was that the word you used? Our history? Yeah. I did. Yeah. Mhmm. And and Paul, I said he he he put it in we must have it in brief form. So we learned these things in school in Scotland. You know, I was told when I was, younger that in Scotland, every Scottish school child reads about William Wallace. And, in England, of course, you read about all the stepping stones of English history. I'm sure the school children did there, and Paul can confirm or deny whether that's true. I know what they used to. They used to do that. I don't know what they do now, but it's probably nothing like what it is. About Islamic heroes now. Yeah. In America, when I was a boy in the grades, I went in the room and there was a picture of George Washington and and, Abe Lincoln on the other side. Now you say, well, I don't like Lincoln or I don't I think that's idolatry. Yeah. Yeah. I know all that too. I'm just making the point. They made they made sure we knew who those fellas were and some stepping stones in our history.
Not that these men are saints, but these are the stepping stones in our history to understand who we are and from whence we came. And when you go to the bible and God decides to establish a nation, how much time does he devote in that book we call the bible to tracing out where people come from and who they are? And the answer is most of it. For example, in the New Testament, the man that wrote more pages of the New Testament than any other man devoted his writings 190% to pure fact. No theology, no philosophy, and no opinions in his writings. More pages in the New Testament than any other man, and that was doctor Luke.
He wrote the gospel of Old Luke and Acts. It's pure fact. And he says right in the beginning of those writings, he's writing for a Roman official. He says, here's what happened. Here's the facts of how it happened. I'm just giving you the facts. That's really all he's saying. And he uses medical terms to describe what he's doing. Being a doctor, he used the in the first verses of Lukey, first four verse verses, he used the word autopsy and three other three other oh, he says he actually exculpates. He uses that word, I think. Those are Greek words. To describe this is pure fact. You go to the Old Testament, you have 70 chapters of nothing, but here's where you came from, Israel, starting with grandpa and grandma Adam and Eve, and here's how it happened. 70 well, 69.
And then in the seventieth chapter, which is the twentieth chapter of Exodus, what does he do? He gives them the ten first principles of law, the 10 Devarim, the 10 commandments as they're popularly called, but not until he had told them who they were. And if we as a people, do not know from whence we have come, we do not know where we are supposed to go. That's for sure. I'm quoting another fellow that people in the patriot community have demonized, but he made a good point when he said it. He said, that's Abe Lincoln. That's the Lincoln Douglas debates in Charleston. He said, if we do not know from whence we have come, we do not know from whence we go or from once or to whence we are going. Listen. By the time Lincoln was making those arguments, the whole question between him and judge Judge Douglas,
[02:54:09] Unknown:
There's a noise back there if somebody I'm sure it is, Paul. Can you identify that by any I I hear it too.
[02:54:15] Unknown:
Sound like somebody's rinsing dishes or something. The the question between him and judge Douglas, and they narrowed it down over over the course of seven debates around Illinois, from Chicago clear down to Cairo, Saint Louis, and all places in between, that the question was the free soil doctrine. What is the free soil doctrine? Paul Paul, you referenced it a while ago. You said land. I forget how you tied it in, but I thought to myself at the time, that's the free soil doctrine of our common law. And the free soil doctrine of our common law says this. Initially, it said, if anybody's foot touches the soil of this island home we call England, regardless of their former conditions of servitude or slavery, their their sleigh or their their their chains drop.
Their shackles drop from their body and they are ipso facto forever free. That's the free soil doctrine. If your foot touches the soil. And the question in America was at that time, does our common law apply here? What is the common law? It is fundamentally the Free Soil doctrine. The free soil doctrine. Does the free soil doctrine apply on this side of the Atlantic like it does in England? And there were cases decided in the courts that asked that question and answered that question in America. There were two two seminal cases. One of them was the, the called the Somerset case of a man from a slave jurisdiction, namely Virginia, who traveled to England with his slave, whose name was Somerset. He was an African slave.
And this African slave somehow got it in his head, I don't know how, about the free soil doctrine. And once his foot touched the pier on the land, he got rabbit in his blood and disappeared. And so they went looking for him, finally found him. And he said, hey. I'm free. I'm in England. This is a free jurisdiction, the free soil doctrine. And so they jailed him until they could decide. None other than lord Mansfield was on the case. Scotsman by the name of Murray, who they renamed rechristened lord Mansfield, And he studied it out and he said, our common law in our island home, our common law has never allowed slavery.
In fact, he said slavery has never been lawful in England. Slavery has been tolerated, but it's never been lawful. And he said the only place you could possibly find it would be if you found some positive decree or statute, and I haven't found any. Therefore, the free soil doctrine is alive and, this slave named Somerset is free. Well, that's the Somerset case. So we come to America. Now this has to do with Abe Lincoln. Abe Lincoln was one of the lawyers representing the slaveholder, by the way, the slaveholder. Oh, that was a habeas corpus case, habeas corpus in England. That's how that happened.
So there was a man in Kentucky, and every year, he'd cross over the Ohio and then the Wabash, or he could've come straight across the Ohio from a place in Kentucky, a town called Bourbon Bourbon, Kentucky. And he had land on the North Side of the Ohio that was much richer, and he farmed it every year. And he left a slave caretaker there. And the slave caretaker this is in Illinois, Coles County, where the dirt's as black as the ace of spades and so rich, it won't even grow trees, but it'll grow corn and some other things. Won't grow tobacco, though, or hemp, but corn. Yeah. Well, he'd go up there, and the slave caretaker stayed there. And every year, he'd come up for planting, tending, and stay till harvest, then he'd go back to Kentucky.
But he'd come up with this caretaker's wife and four children. Her name was Mary and his their name was Bryant. They were two slaves married and had four children. So he'd bring her up, and they'd put the crop in, tend the crop, and then get it out in the fall. And then he'd take Mary and the four children and go back to Kentucky, get this, with his Irish his Irish maid. In those days, they called them Bridget. She was an Irish immigrant, and, of course, they got jobs as slaves because or as, maids. Yeah. Maids. Well, he went up with his Irish maid, and who knows what was going on there. And his Irish maid got crosswise and, with Mary Bryant.
Mister Bryant, he was a slave, got crosswise with her in the kitchen, like who was in charge type thing. And this Irish maid, this Bridget said to Mary, said, if you don't do what I tell you in the kitchen, I'll tell your master, and he'll sell you down the river. Well, that scared the bejeebies out of her because in Kentucky, the slaves a lot of places and Missouri and Tennessee, the slaves had a a membership, a de facto membership in the family. They were well cared for and and trusted, by the way. Oh, he entrusted his whole farm to this slave up in Illinois.
Well, Mary got scared, took her four children, gathered them up, and hightailed out of Oakland, eight eight miles to the south to a place called Ashmore, a stage stop. And Gideon Ashmore, named after him, owned the inn there at the stage stop. And he knew a fella at Oakland that was a abolitionist, and he was a doctor, and his name was Rutherford. And he told Rutherford about it, and Rutherford got him and kept him for a while and, had them in his basement. And that house is still sitting there, by the way. The Rutherford Rutherford House, they call it at Oakland. Little tiny settlement.
Well, then the slave owner, his name was Madsen, he went to the sheriff of the county and said, I want my property back. So the sheriff knew Rutherford was sympathetic to the slaves, so he went to Rutherford, asked him if he knew anything about it. He said, yeah. I got him in the basement. So he took him and took him to the jail at the county seat. And then the slave owner went to the county seat to get him, but Rutherford went to the county seat too, and he filed a writ of a petition for a writ of habeas corpus. That's a petition, a request to the judge that he issue an order to the jailer to bring the bodies, habeas corpus, bring the body, corpus, the body of the prisoner before the court and prove that the jailing is lawful. That's part of our common law tradition, by the way, friends, and it's called the great writ in our common law tradition.
Really, really important, by the way. Well, Lincoln was in town in that county seat at that time. He traveled the circuit, and he'd pick up legal business as a lawyer from town to town. As the entourage moved, the judges moved in the circuit, the lawyers moved with him, and he did that. And I think it's the seventh circuit, and it was a large one covered several counties. Kinda like in England, the old days, they called it the ambulatory king. That's why the crown in England still goes from a state to a state with the seasons. That's an old habit to come from a time when the courts the king took the courts and brought justice to everybody. And that's an old Germanic custom, by the way, in the Scandinavian and Germanic tribes.
Of course, it became undoable, and that's why Magna Carta then said that the court of common pleas will be put in a fixed place and not moved because people couldn't find the court. They were got out of hand. But, anyway, they were doing that in the American West, and and that was the American West at that time. And Lincoln, the the slave owner came to Lincoln and said, I want you to represent me. He agreed to represent him to try to get his slaves back. And, the other lawyer, Linda, on the other side, a friend of Lincolns, was in town, and he rep Lincoln represented the slaveholder, and he represented Mary Bryant and her four children, the slaves.
Lincoln argued a structural problem. He said this is not a subject for habeas corpus, but Linder argued the free soil doctrine of our common law. And he cited the Somerset case of the the slave that was England that was free as precedent, and he said the same thing applies to the soil of the state of Illinois that applies to England. If a slave comes here and their foot touches the soil, they're free. Well, slavery had occurred all over the Northeast and all over Illinois and was just part of the culture, but it was not consonant with our common law tradition. That's why slavery was such a problem in America because, England said that America is the common law doesn't apply here. That's what Black Stone says in his commentaries.
That's why we went to war with Britain. Well, if the common law doesn't apply, said the people in the South, then we can have slaves. That's what the the wealthy elite and slave traders said. Well, after the arguments, the court, the Supreme Court justices came down from the state capital to hear the case. Biggest thing that happened downstate all over the Midwest, and there was a crowded around the walls in the courtroom, and they heard the arguments, and they issued their decision and freed Mary Bryant and her four children on the spot. That's the free soil doctrine. Of course, the rest of the story didn't turn out so good, and I have it on the testimony written of a man who went to Liberia in Africa where Mary Bryant went with her children.
She went to Liberia, immigrated, and found her living there with her children and mister Bryant in utter squalor. She'd have been better off to stay here. Yes. Yeah. That's what happened there. But, the free soil doctrine is fundamental to our common law. We don't call it the law of the land for nothing. That's our common law tradition. The other name for it, Magna Carta, quoting chapter 39, and we quoted it a while ago, except by the law of the land. That, in Latin, lex terum. The law of the land was our was the other name for our common law, and that was the other name for due process. Due process, our common law, law of the land are all three synonyms for the same thing.
Our common law is not about outcome standards like the 10 commandments. Our common law is about process. When this galute over there from Africa or wherever he's from said that we're gonna get rid of jury trial, what's he tampering with? He's not tampering with outcome standards. Thou shalt not covet, lie, steal, commit adultery, or murder. No. No. He's tampering with due process, friends. Mhmm. You know what God says in the Bible to I'll tell you. I say this again as a testimony just having my head in the Bible for a lot of decades. There are words in the Bible, a lot of words that refer to due process. They're not properly translated, but they're they occur hundreds of times.
And once you get a sense of it, I, I'm I retranslate them due process, course of process, fair play. There's another word for our common law, fair play. Process due and owing. Process due and owing is another one of yours. Process due and owing. But when you talk about fair play, you're talking about how we go about doing things. Not what, but how. That's why I'd said a while ago, respect. This is chivalry. This is what Marshall set front and center in England that has been so powerful in our tradition that we have order. We understand the Basileo, the kingdom of God. The kingdom of God is his dispensing of spheres of jurisdiction that we don't tamper with the other fellow. We tip tip the hat to the other guy and his responsibilities. We don't get in his way, and we don't let him get in our way either. In other words, if you're given responsibility from your maker, with that responsibility, that's a duty, comes the unfettered duty to defend your jurisdiction.
Jurisdiction. The sphere of jurisdiction. Your duty. God has given that to you, dispensed it to you. We teach classes at the law school. Sheriff Darleaf teaches with me. I like to have him there because I can use him as an example of our common law over and over. Sheriff Darleaf has a duty. Who gave it to him? Well, all authority and jurisdiction of his lawful comes from God, Romans 13. But did he get it direct from God? No. He got it from the militiamen of his county called the posse. When you're talking about the militiamen of a county at common law, you're talking about the power of the county, the posse comitatus. They're the ones that gave it to him. It came from God. Yes. He's the source, but the militiamen gave it to him. So he got it indirectly.
Therefore, his position at sheriff, the president of The United States position, the governor of your state, they didn't get it direct from God. Even the king of England, Charlie, he didn't get it direct from God. No, no, no, no, no. And you can watch when they coronated him. They may have said he got it direct from God, but he didn't. According to the common law, the house of lords had to okay it by the advice and consent of the gray heritage senile men called the Senate. We say in America, they have to okay it. House of Lords okayed it. Okay. Now that's indirect authority, you see. But it is from God, but it's indirect. So it's not a fundamental right. It's not a fundamental duty. Well, what about the right to keep and bear arms? Is that direct from God? Yes.
That's a fundamental duty. By the way, it's a part of the English bill of rights. Our bill of rights is fashioned after the English bill of rights of 1690 whatever, sixteen ninety something, I think. You can go look it up way back there. But that those are fun a lot of those are fundamental rights in our bill of rights. That means they come direct from God. There is no intermediary between us and the maker of heaven and earth. As John Wycliffe said, we worship God under the vault of heaven and our duties, our fundamental duties come direct from him, such as the duty of being a husband, the duty of being father. That didn't come from the state or from the government. The the the duty to govern your tongue, to speak or not to speak, the right to remain silent, freedom of speech. That didn't come from the government.
That came direct from God and government, as our courts have said, have no authority to interfere. No authority to interfere. Well, that's the free soil doctrine, the law of the land, our common law, and that's why we think it's important. One more point I want to make and then I better go. We did bring up a while ago. Oh, Paul brought it up. In inadvertently well, indirectly, when we're talking about getting rid of the jury, we're talking about they're saying we're backlogged by 80,000 cases in England and Wales, and therefore justice is what? It's delayed.
Justice is delayed. And our common law has always said justice delayed is justice denied. For a lot of reasons that it takes years to come to grips with, but it's true. By the way, that arises from Magna Carta. We talked about chapter 39, the very next statement. The very next statement of Magna Carta is about justice. It says justice shall not be delayed. It's part and parcel. We have it in our constitution of The United States. It says that every man has a fundamental right to a speedy trial. That's one of those rights we've never realized in America. We're backed up in our courts too, because people would rather give out welfare than they would have justice, which is more important.
[03:11:43] Unknown:
God help me. The thing the I the irony, Brent, is these 80,000 cases, I Yeah. Was made aware of this six months ago, this backlog Uh-huh. Could be easily and speedily dealt with by trials by jury.
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Uh-huh.
[03:12:01] Unknown:
Okay. That's how you deal with it. That's how you deal with it. That's how you deal with it. Uh-huh. You just let's get go let's So what this is this would involve, in in my case, English men and women being selected for jury duty and crack on with it. And it's quick. It's quicker than this stuff we've got now. It's just that they can't control it. This is all about this control of things. So you wanna get rid of the 80,000 backlogs? That's fine. Let's set up 2,000 courts. We'll get it done in two years, and let's crack on. Exactly. We'll do a case every three days after Piffle and Nomsen.
[03:12:36] Unknown:
That's what Rick was saying when we first started discussing it. Is that exactly your solution?
[03:12:40] Unknown:
Yeah. We need we we do have a barrier. We need more trial by jury. We need only trial by jury. Yes. It's not it's judges. The judge is a referee, isn't he? He's just supposed to be there to make sure that the the processes are dealt with correctly. He's like, this is the rules of conduct in the court, but I'm not here to make a decision. He shouldn't be called a judge. He's like, what is he? A convener. That's it. Oh, she is. And then we'll do it. Thanks very much. We don't need you to tell us, but, of course,
[03:13:07] Unknown:
I assumed that we do. You get in that situation. You and, of course, a little bit on on the fringe, but you get your honor, if you wanna call him that. Are you an independent trier of facts, or are you a party to the action?
[03:13:21] Unknown:
You know, over here, they don't they don't allow themselves to be addressed as your honor much anymore. Do you know that? Because true. Because they know that they're not in honor. The honor of It's a big deal. Well, what do you call them? What do you call them? I don't know. Judge, I suppose, or something. I can't remember the name. This was at this meeting a couple of weeks ago. They hardly ever called them your honor because they're not in it. William Marshall was. They're not in honor because they're not on their oath. They're not in anything. They're just administrators of a private system of deceit as you well know. So so they don't even they don't even call them your honor anymore. I understand. That's a myth.
[03:13:57] Unknown:
Sir, sir, possibly, or something like that. Sir, madam, that'd be good.
[03:14:01] Unknown:
What I know about it, I got from Rumpole of the old Bailey. Remember Rumpole? Yep. Well, Rumpole, when he was in court, he'd always say, your lordship.
[03:14:12] Unknown:
So I thought that's the way they did it. There you go. Yeah. Yeah. But they don't call him your honor anymore because they're not in it. They're not in honor. There's a technical definition of what it is, and they're not in it. They're they're in a state of dishonor, literally. That's what there is. I understand what you're saying. You know, I have an answer. And they know it, so they don't wanna lie. At least they've got integrity about the fact that they're liars. They're at least honest about that. They love liars. Go ahead, Brent.
[03:14:38] Unknown:
Oh, I've, we're gonna tell another story. The reason I tell these stories is because it helped me keeps them on the top of my consciousness, and sometimes I need them. But my granddad on my mother's side ran for justice of the peace. We had justice of the peace. You know, you have to be a lawyer to run for justice of the peace. You handle smaller cases. You know? And and, there was a fella at a big house. He was a lawyer and his we all called him Judge Williams. He I don't think he was a judge, but that's what everybody called him. He had a lot of money and he thought he was quite something. And, he was a Republican.
My granddad, they were from the South, so they were Democrats. They were from Kentucky. And, the whole family and grandpa ran as a Democrat, and judge Williams never liked him much. And, my granddad's brother is an auctioneer. His name, John Will Henry. And he on the sale bills, you know, in America to be an auctioneer after the war between the Northern and the Southern tiers of the states, the carpetbaggers came and most of them, it was the Jewish element that came and broke up, had auctioneer or auctions in the South, but they weren't regulated. Well, when the union occupied, they said there's too much abuse going on. And if you're gonna be an auctioneer, abuse going on. And if you're gonna be an auctioneer, you have to be at the rank, army rank of colonel or above. You you can run the auction.
You can get an auctioneer, but you gotta run it. So the habit came that if you're an auctioneer in our part of the world, you called yourself colonel. And when the sale bill came out for a farm sale or something, it'd say on it, the bottom list, all the stuff that was gonna be there. And then it'd say auctioneer colonel John Will Henry Hudson. And, Judge Williams saw my granddad was running for office. Now grandpa told me this. I wasn't there when it happened. He said Williams didn't like him. He goes, hey, well, different parties. And he said, what's all this I see about your, your brother being a Colonel and all that kind of stuff. He said, what's that supposed to mean? And I saw it on the sale bill. What's that supposed to mean? And grandpa said, well, it's kinda like when they call you your honor, it doesn't mean much at all.
Well, that's what, that's what, Paul's saying. The judges apparently are being honest and saying we're not honor, honorable at all. And when you, but you said also, You also said they're not even on oath. Now that shocks me a little bit. Now here in America, you're supposed to put a judge under everybody that said in the government, state and federal, supposed to take an oath to support and defend the constitution of The United States. Or I assume that there you take an oath to somebody or something, don't you?
[03:17:25] Unknown:
There's well, they used to, but this is where I mean, I'm at my depth with all this sort of detail, but I understand that if you confront them on that, they will often leave the court. There are there's footage of this happening over the last ten years. But, no, the whole thing is a private business. And when you actually start to say these sentences, you are pulling it back into the actual law, not legality. And, at least they're honorable to leave the court because because they're not standing in law. They're standing in in their legal game, you know. But I've got to go, I'm afraid. I I do have to say goodbye because it's twenty past seven, and my stomach is telling me that I've got to put something in it. Same place.
So I've I've gotta go and do that. Always. But I've really I've really enjoyed it. Pleasure. We don't get to do it often enough. Thank you for coming by and spending some time with us. It's been nice listening to you and to you, Brent. Really enjoyed it. Thank you. Hey, Brent. Yep. Alright. Cool. Yeah. Thanks, Brent. No. We didn't. Yep. I'll I'll try and pop in one more time before the year's out. It's nearly out, isn't it? Yeah. For sure. It's pretty close. Getting pretty close. It is. So Hey, Brent. Everyone. Bye for now.
[03:18:38] Unknown:
Thank you, Paul. Love you, buddy. Take care. Alright. Brent, you gotta go too. I'm not too far behind you. Anybody else got a quick question?
[03:18:47] Unknown:
Yeah. I did. Can you hear me?
[03:18:50] Unknown:
Yes.
[03:18:52] Unknown:
Hey. Thank you, both of you, for the show today. I so, Trent, I have two things.
[03:19:03] Unknown:
This is the man this is the man with the new from the New Jersey with the New Jersey accent that lives in Arkansas.
[03:19:09] Unknown:
Yeah. It's him. A man of
[03:19:12] Unknown:
few words. Well, Massachusetts.
[03:19:14] Unknown:
I'm sorry. Yeah. We label him a man of few words. Go ahead.
[03:19:18] Unknown:
I'm not gonna I'm not gonna, debauch the show by saying how most people say it because it's not, not good. Anyway, it's a ship high in transit, you know, the last part of Massachusetts. Anyway, so I have two things, Brent. Thank you for entertaining this. When you were telling the story about the two women and that whole controversy, it reminded me of Abraham and Sarah and Hagar because it was to me, it was very similar situation. Two, wives, two, etcetera. Sarah was Abraham's wife. Hagar was Sarah's handmaid, etcetera. Issachar, her son, Abraham's son, threatened Isaac.
Okay? Uh-huh. So that's all I wanna say about that. It reminded me of that. But the the last thing I wanna say is, regarding all this, integration, migration, whatever you wanna call it, I look at this what I think I see, anyway, my opinion is all these, you know, Britain, United States, Canada, Australia, what I see going on, I think, is a fulfillment of Revelation 12 verse 15, which says, and the serpent cast out of his mouth water as a flood after the woman. So I I deem the woman to be Israel, the wife of the father or the Messiah, that he might cause her to be carried away from the flood.
And from my studies, waters, which would, a flood would come from waters are really talking about people just as many times trees are speaking about people. So that's all I have to say.
[03:21:56] Unknown:
Okay, Doug. Thank you. Brent, thanks again, buddy. Great show today. Good to have Paul drop by, and it's just a unique little chemistry we've got here. And I really appreciate it, and I think everybody else does also. Love you, bro. We'll see you next Friday. Brent already left? K. Well, then I am about to do the same thing. Oh, he's there. He's just muted. Oh, he's He must be snacking.
[03:22:25] Unknown:
Yeah. But can I speak something? Down, Brent.
[03:22:28] Unknown:
Yes.
[03:22:30] Unknown:
Yes. Who is the little female there? It was myr. It was
[03:22:34] Unknown:
myr. Yeah. It's Alexander S d o u r b y, and there is a channel on YouTube. The, he completed reading the whole Bible in 1953. It's eighty four and a half hours, and it was on long playing records. And it was for talking books for the blind, and he considered that his most important work. Yeah. He was a radio voice actor. And, so I'll send you that link.
[03:23:01] Unknown:
I remember I've heard his name before now. It it registers with me from somewhere.
[03:23:06] Unknown:
I think you were supposed to be. Yeah. Bam. Yeah. Yep. Thanks.
[03:23:10] Unknown:
Brent, thank you, buddy. Yep. And, another pleasurable show. Just where could anybody else get all of this kinda input and history and background in one spot? Yes. Who was hello? Is that you, Chris?
[03:23:29] Unknown:
No. No. It's it's Oliver. I I just was listening to Oliver. I I I Hey, man. How are you doing? Fire up. How you doing?
[03:23:37] Unknown:
Good. Did you just get to hear some of Paul? He just left.
[03:23:42] Unknown:
No. No. I I I actually did, but I I didn't wanna interrupt anyone. It was it was all gold. You know? I I didn't wanna interrupt anybody who's talking. I didn't wanna I I didn't wanna I mean, it was great. I'm sorry it ended. Yeah. Yeah. No. It was all very good. It was great stuff, you know, and even, Paul as well from England as well. Yeah.
[03:24:01] Unknown:
Yeah. That's why I was, asking. So good to have you back. I've been calling for you. Lisa said you work, opposite the show, and maybe you can come join us tomorrow, and we can get more, background laid down stuff because, yeah, I find it fascinating that you've joined us. And I was, wanting to find out more. So, anyway, glad you came back. Brent, this this Oliver fellow I was talking about earlier right here, our our Irish friend. So Hi, Oliver.
[03:24:31] Unknown:
How are you doing, Brent? Thanks a lot for your I I I like your I I I love your, you're very accurate from from what my knowledge of biblical things. I come from a Catholic background, and and I I appreciate what you're saying. It's it's it's amazing. Yeah. It's very accurate, I have to say. Well read.
[03:24:49] Unknown:
Oh, baby.
[03:24:50] Unknown:
We hear the IRA is starting to flex their muscles again over there on this migrant situation. Are you on top of that, Oliver?
[03:25:01] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No. There is a bit of flex in there, but you you know what though? The, you know, speaking from friends and growing up in Ireland, the the the IRA was infiltrated many years ago, you know, sadly. Like all organisations are infiltrated. And, yeah. Sad. But but but there is there is offshoots, as you say,
[03:25:21] Unknown:
coming to prominence now. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I know. Very true. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I just heard the comments in the last day or two. Well, I was you know, you get to thinking how far is they gonna let it go before somebody stands up. You know? So, anyway,
[03:25:38] Unknown:
but glad you joined us today. I'm starving too. I know Brent was about ready to go, and I hate to leave when you've just showed up. But, Lisa said you No. No. No. It's fine. No. No. It's fine. No. It's fine. It's fine. I I just I wanted to wait till everyone was finished talking. I I just I I just have a quick talk. Yeah. I can I can I'll I'll be listening tomorrow again and and yeah? Yeah. Yeah. No. No. It's just, I I I listened to your radio show yesterday, and I missed you when you left. And, obviously, I just wanna call it the end of it. I I loved your, your your your story about living in South America. Was it great to hear a lot of that was a great show yesterday as well. Very good. It was. It was very good yesterday. You're right.
[03:26:15] Unknown:
So thanks. We're glad you come back, and and we'll look forward to maybe yakking tomorrow a bit. Brent, you had something to say?
[03:26:22] Unknown:
No. No, Brent. Thanks a lot. Buddy. Mitch. Yeah. Thank you, Oliver. Bye bye. We'll be talking. Thank you. See see you again. Thanks a lot. Have a great day. The rest of your day. Thanks. Bye. Alright. We'll rejoin. I'm gonna enjoy a lunch here.
[03:26:35] Unknown:
And, so great show today. Thank everybody. Brent will look forward to seeing you next Friday, and Oliver will look forward to seeing you tomorrow. K? And everybody else, everybody else too. So, until then, ciao ciao.
[03:26:53] Unknown:
Hey. Well, Roger just talked out. Thank you, Brent. Great show today. I missed some of it because I was running around doing things, but great show today. Now you should get yourself something to eat for you Pause, Bruce. For you before you expire. Pause. One second. Bruce, go for it.
[03:27:19] Unknown:
Yes. Now this was a gentleman's discussion. One didn't speak over the other. That was a beautiful, beautiful broadcast. Thank you.
[03:27:31] Unknown:
Well, except for the couple of comments I made. I was trying to trying to, you know, dig a shoehorn in there, and I wound up speaking over Raj a little bit. And then, thank you. Appreciate it. Now I didn't have an opportunity to set up the show before the show started, so Pod Home was not actually recording the show. So I've been recording it locally. I did stream it on Pod Home, but, the the AI engine is is not going to be gonna have access to this show. So I will be uploading a local recording to it, so it it should come up peanuts. Who is the lady out there that, was trying to get in?
[03:28:16] Unknown:
That was me, and that was my question. But it's on Rumble too and probably other places. Yeah. Yeah. It's yeah. It's on Rumble.
[03:28:23] Unknown:
It is you it is on the PodHome ice cast server, but you'd have to get to where it is now using the GVN on PodHome link on the matrix docs, which nobody knows, of course. But, yes, I have made a local recording. Yes, I will be uploading it, and AI will fully process the file just like usual. Oh, sorry. Sorry. I I, sorry I was distracted this morning. I I had 15 below last night, and I woke up at 62 degrees. And when I was trying to warm the house up, it went from 62 to 64, and then I ran out of propane. So I had to I had to deal with that. So anyways.
So if that's that's the case, here we go. Let's do this. This has been the Radio Ranch with Roger Seals, the Friday edition with Brent Allen Winters on Global Voice Radio Network, eurofolkradio.com, radiosoapbox.com, and radioorrumble.globalvoiceradio.net. Our website is thematrixdocs.com. Thematrix,docs,.com. You can find links to free conference calls. You can join us live on the show, interviews, resources, exhibits, books, all kinds of links, downloadables. It's a veritable plethora of information, and I know I pronounced that wrong. Someday, I'll get it right. I'm Paul from Global Voice Network and the Radio Ranch. Thanks for joining us, and we can't wait to see you back next time. Ciao.
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[03:30:32] Unknown:
Bye bye, boys. Have fun storming the castle.
Cold open, tech wrangling, and roll call
Brent joins; UK jury trial "bombshell" surfaces
Reading reports: UK plan to restrict jury trials
Why jury trials matter: backlog, justice, and bullets
Who decides facts and law? Jury, judges, and nullification
Common law roots: militia, jury duty, and rights
Chesterton, Scalia, and the twelve as final arbiters
Black & Douglas, separation, and court politics
Gospel, Galatians, and grace versus morality
Status, citizenship, and personal responsibility
Listener Q&A: Scalia death; de facto vs de jure states
Patriot myths, words, and what truly matters
Heaven and earth, delegation, and the 12-man jury
Day of man vs day of the Lord; jury as arbiter
Plugs: CommonLawyer.com, shows, and courses
New listeners: Oliver from Ireland; Alma from Mexico
Work ethic, migration, and the English Bible’s influence
Paul English arrives: Magna Carta and canny gumption
UK politics, Lammy, and Magna Carta chapter 39
William Marshal, jousting, and securing Magna Carta
Constitutional memory: written and unwritten traditions
Jurisdiction, common law on the land, and communication
Speech policing, arrests, and social demoralization
Femininity, courage, and a Walmart mask standoff
Trials reveal truth: adversarial vs inquisitorial law
John Marshall tales and rules of chivalry in court
Trial by battle on film and appeal to God
Wise as serpents: non-escalation and due process
Hearing Scripture: radio, technology, and faith
Against idolatry: voice over image and BBC origins
UK digital ID push and public resistance
Airports, device seizures, and media sparring
Carlson on Red Indians; frontier brutality revisited
Comanche, cruelty, and the cost of losing
Assimilation, busing, Brown v. Board, and tax code
Free soil doctrine: Somerset, Mary Bryant, and habeas
Law of the land: due process, juries, and rights
Clearing backlogs with juries; honor in the courts
Titles, oaths, and judges in and out of honor
Sign-offs, production notes, and closing credits
