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Live radio is messy—and that’s part of the fun. In this freewheeling Radio Ranch, we open with on‑air logistics about a possible off‑day and how we’ll keep the lines open for a bare‑bones discussion if needed. From there, we welcome a surge of new voices (shout‑out to Annie and Catherine) and dig into the core of our work: affidavits, notices, and how to communicate status changes to agencies without tripping “frivolous filing” wires. We walk through where to find our show archives and transcripts, why Social Security benefits aren’t impacted by declaring yourself a national (as we define it), how to handle employer withholding pushback, and what to do with auto‑generated IRS letters. We also spend time on primary sources—specifically the State Department page that explains non‑citizen nationality—and discuss practical notice strategy (including copying state tax authorities), the Buck Act, Bivens, and common pitfalls around “income” and “wages” arguments. Community updates abound: Ezana’s strong outreach to a jural assembly, a listener question on AAFES retail and tax exposure, and a quick note on tomorrow’s live setup while Paul retrieves the bus. If you’re new, this episode is a good primer on where to find our materials, how to approach notices confidently, and how to keep participating even when the bumpers and stingers are offline.

• 'Global Voice Radio – Radio Ranch resources (Join links, downloads, show info)': https://globalvoiceradio.net/etmatrix/
• 'Global Voice Radio – Matrix/Expose The Matrix page': https://globalvoiceradio.net/matrix/
• 'Euro Folk Radio (Pastor Eli James)': https://eurofolkradio.com/
• 'Radio Soapbox': https://radiosoapbox.com/
• 'Certificates of Non‑Citizen Nationality – U.S. Department of State (travel.state.gov)': https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/legal/travel-legal-considerations/us-citizenship/Certificates-Non-Citizen-Nationality.html
• 'Army & Air Force Exchange Service (AAFES) – ShopMyExchange': https://www.shopmyexchange.com/
• 'Radio Ranch with Roger Sayles – Podverse episode listing': https://podverse.fm/da/episode/IXM2zb0mHq
• 'iTeraCare (Prife International) – Product overview': https://www.prifeintl.com/iTeraCare

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That's  

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Yes. Yes. Yes.   As would we, and we do it   one person at a time. Here at the Radio Ranch, we get you your freedom if you're interested in   another segment and installment, if you will, on Tuesday today,   the eighteenth of, November.   Pretty close to   the big, the big week next week. I don't know   how that will,   affect us. Generally, we probably won't do a show on anyway, we'll talk about that later. Roger Sales Radio Ranch.   There's some problems on the Internet today, I hear, on a lot of big sites not being able to be accessed at the moment, but we're still on the air here. Thank you.   And, mister Beaner will, let us know who is helping us today. If they're not affected by this,   whatever the problem is, something called Flare. Don't know what that is. Paul, do you? I don't know.  



[00:03:06] Unknown:

No. I don't I don't have any idea.   As far as I know,   Global Voice Network is a globalvoiceradio.net,   and that is radio.globalvoiceradio.net.   And our rumble stream, rumble.globalvoiceradio.net   is up. I don't know for sure if eurofolkradio.com   is with us. That's brought to us by pastor Eli James.   That is a   separate connection that gets picked up by Paul English, our buddy across the drink, who also brings us   at radiosoapbox.com.   So we're on radio soapbox today, hopefully.   It should be, anyways.   And our website is appears to be up. It is thematrixstocks.com,   and free conference call appears to be working, and you will find the links to free conference calls. You can join us live on the show right there on the matrixdocs.com.  

Now,   most mostly everything appears to be working today. However,   it's entirely possible we might be taking a hiatus tomorrow   because   there won't be anyone here to start the show.   I can   I can open the Zoom conference,   a couple hours early   and have a couple of things sitting in there just keeping the room open?   I can start the free conference call,   and that would record everything that was going on locally here. And then when I get home   later tomorrow night, I'll be able to post produce the local recording and then upload it.   But I don't know. It might just be easier to take a day off.  



[00:04:55] Unknown:

Please. Please just put a replay in, pick a good show, and stick it in. I won't even be able to do that.  

[00:05:01] Unknown:

I I won't even be able to do that. That's the thing.   I won't be here because tomorrow   at 09:30 in the morning, I am being picked up by my landlady who is giving me a ride 72 miles out to go and get my bus   and bring it here. And it's the only time that I can do that because   the weather is favorable because she's in her seventies and doesn't like to drive when it's icky, and it'll be warm enough for the bus to start.   Okay.   Tomorrow's   the day.  

[00:05:36] Unknown:

So what's our what's our options? What what are our options? Either, like, dead air for two hours, you can't start a replay?  

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And Eric,   that's it.  

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Okay. Well,   okay.   I don't that's interesting, isn't it? Kind of a conundrum.  

[00:05:58] Unknown:

Yeah. I don't I don't have any way to remote into Studio C to actually start things from remote. Yeah. Yeah. Uh-huh. So,  

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there will be a way to start anything. Just set the FCC thing up, and those of us will come on, and we'll just have a two hour, almost like a regular show.   Okay. But there won't be any bumpers. There won't be any stoves. There won't be any of that. Any of that? No ending. No. I know. No ending. But it's better than dead air. I don't wanna just have dead air. People come on. They   trace us down and come on. There's nothing there. I certainly don't want that. So let's Right. Choose that option.   Okay. Well So, folks, I'll come on tomorrow. It'll be,   bare backed and not fancy. Okay? But we, we'll have some sort of a   discussion show tomorrow, and everything can run along, I think,   pretty, pretty smoothly without Paul, maybe, hopefully.  



[00:06:57] Unknown:

And let's Hey, Roger. You know my motto?   Bareback is better than brokeback brokeback.  

[00:07:04] Unknown:

Okay. Well, that's Dave's motto.   Then, yeah. Let's just do that. We'll just get on here and have a conversation. And I just don't want anybody new coming around thinking that we're gone or it's not true or   whatever. You know? So let's do that if that's our best option.  

[00:07:22] Unknown:

Okay. What I can do is I can open the free conference call room at 09:00 in the morning. That means that that connection will remain active until at least three in the afternoon.   I don't expect to be back by three, but at least to cover us through Showtime.   I can start   the   pod home stream   at nine   and just schedule it for a six hour stream instead of a three.   Okay. And,  

[00:07:50] Unknown:

you don't have to go on the technical stuff. You're the only one that understands it. You go do it, and we'll go on, and I'll just show up at eleven.   Right. The only thing I'll have to do is Oh, who's gonna queue certain. Who's gonna who's gonna queue me in on Zoom?  

[00:08:07] Unknown:

I'm gonna have to open the Zoom room two hours early, which means I'm gonna have to have two connections to it just to keep it live because it times out. If there's only one person in there, it times out after forty minutes. So I'll just have two connections going to Zoom as of 09:00 in the morning, and then it'll just keep going. Answer automatically when I hit the blue thing?  

[00:08:29] Unknown:

Yep. Alright. Well, here, folks, here's, this is live radio. Sorry to put you through all this planning, but, this is where we are. So,  

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anyway We'll figure out something.  

[00:08:40] Unknown:

Okay. You got it. Alright, buddy. Well   well, good morning. Welcome. Are there anybody do you know if there's anybody with us today or not? I mean, are are we flying as blind as these other people?  

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WDRN is not with us today.  

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Uh-huh.  

[00:08:57] Unknown:

But everybody else,   appears to be Eurofolk,   Radio Soapbox, and Global Voice. I mean, everyone's up  

[00:09:05] Unknown:

so far. Alright. Well, this is kinda like, you know, the like they say, you shouldn't watch sausage being made. So sorry to make sausage in front of you here this morning.   We will continue. We'll go on the track that we're gonna have a show tomorrow and that Paul can get all this stuff set up where it works   flawlessly.   So good morning,   students,   cowboys, cowgirls, ranch hands, new people kicking a tire,   all that kind of stuff. Welcome.   I was telling Paul right before the show, it's been wonderful because we've had so many new folks on lately. It's just about almost every day bring somebody new. We've had two Catharines   here over that last few weeks, and one of them from Kansas, and one of them lives out there in Sausalito,   California.  

Stunning   stunning place to live.   And, then we had John the other day from Idaho, and,   seems like a couple other people. Anyway, welcome to all of you. And, if you're back again, great. And if you're not again, maybe we'll see you soon.   But, you could see the kind of lifeblood that a new person brings to the program.   You know, we're all here. There's somebody new and you wanna get get them all up to speed as best we can, give them the best suggestions we can and support them as much as we can if they wanna move forward and all that. And it's just a nice   change   or wrinkle,   if you will, on the   program where we have to go back and I have to beg you to say something because we're conversational   radio here.  

I can do some soliloquies now, but it's not my favorite   thing. I wanna interact with you.   So good morning. Hope everybody's alright. Anybody else got anybody got something to say here at the start? I had somebody had their mic open there, it seemed like.  

[00:10:56] Unknown:

Okay. Good morning.  

[00:10:58] Unknown:

Oh, good morning. Is this and who who have we got here? Is this Catherine again?  

[00:11:03] Unknown:

It's Annie.  

[00:11:05] Unknown:

It's Annie. Well, there's Annie. I'm I neglected you. I'm gonna say you're a new person too. How are you doing this morning, Annie?  

[00:11:13] Unknown:

I'm good. Very good. I had some company over the weekend, so I've been a little distracted. So I missed Uh-huh.   I missed yesterday, and I, anyway, I'm just back.   So, yeah, really excited. I   green cards came back   Fantastic. Confirming delivery. Yay.   And the, the other two are should be due,   today.   So yay about all that.   Congrats.  

[00:11:42] Unknown:

Yeah. Although, let let me stress here. It's not necessary.   I understand.   Excuse me.   Certainly understand why people are anxious to get that green card back for verification of receipt.   But, you know, for one thing, you can always go even if it doesn't come back sometimes, Annie. And what happens, you know, the post office still   processes, got millions of pieces of mail a day.   And, sometimes those little cards get caught in a magazine or newspaper or something. You know? I don't know how much of that still sent through the mail with the Internet the way it is, but used to be that way. And that that little slip can easily slip into and then not come back, and you're all freaked out because you don't get it. Well, don't be like that.   First of all, you can always fall back to the Internet.  

You put in the number and there's tracking on there.   You can if it's if it's received and they just lost the green card, you can always just, print that page of the, of the tracking and stick in your folder.   But the reality   is   when you went to the post office with the green certified return receipt requested,   and there they they they stamp it and tear off your receipt and give it to you, and then they send it on into the process.   When they stamp that at the post office, Annie,   it's considered received.  

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Great.  

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Yay. Yep.  

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Yep. It's like you see, we're just reversing what the IRS does to us.   Well, they come back and say, well, we sent you this, letter,   and it was the last known address we had. Of course, you haven't lived there in ten, fifteen years, but doesn't make any difference. That's the last address we had. And because we sent it, it's considered received.   So all we're doing is just reversing that on them.  

[00:13:38] Unknown:

Well, I'm pleased to be have initiated the process, and I'm just very, very thankful that this group is here and that you do the show every day because I   I don't talk a lot,   because I really wanna learn from others. And I'm I'm just very thankful to you. Thank you to you and Merka and Paul and and and,   everyone that's involved,   in helping us gain freedom.  

[00:14:02] Unknown:

Yeah. We got a nice little team here. We're not totally organized and structured. I don't guess we're supposed to be.   But, we do, accomplish things and have a forum where folks like yourself and Catherine from yesterday. If you missed yesterday, we had new new folks too.   And,   so we're that's what we're here for is for you.   Because the only way we're gonna get really get this message out and understood is to have a platform like this, excuse me, where we can interact   and other people can come listen. Like yesterday, Catherine came on. She's from Kansas.   And,   she came on very what does this national thing do for me? You know, that kind of approach. And I understand that. I'm not being critical.  

And,   and so we had a long conversation with Catherine, us in the audience here yesterday. And it's funny because by the end of the show, she says, I'm doing this.   And and yet you and I was thinking about this last night. You and Clayton, you were exposed to this over a year ago, and you guys have been very cautiously   looking and thinking and and trying to get it all into perspective, but you finally pulled the trigger. So there's just a good difference in people   and the way that they react to this information.   And,   well, we're just tickled to have all of you. It doesn't make any difference how you got here, what your feelings were. It's just interesting to see the differences.  

So, Annie, how can we help you? I I would suggest, by the way, if you missed Saturday's show and you missed yesterday's show, you may wanna catch both of those because they were both real good. We had new people in both of them, brisk discussion,   pretty much centered on what we do, and,   I want y'all to listen to when you get a chance to catch up. K?  

[00:15:49] Unknown:

Where do I go? Do I just go to the,   the new student  

[00:15:54] Unknown:

I am. Telegram? No. No. I'm gonna I'm gonna pull forward mister Paul here as he's the one that put the website together and have him tell you. I think it's the bottom of the page. It says archives. Paul, are you listening, or are you out doing something?   I guess that answers my question.   It's at the bottom of the page, and we've got this pretty neat little new   archive deal.   And it   has IAI   attached. I guess you've heard us discuss it, Annie.   And you can tap on it and get the whole transcript. You don't just have to listen. You can read. It breaks it down into chapters or something.   I'll get Paul or,   when he comes back here in a minute. He's   I know telling what he's doing.  

But he'll be back in a minute. I will try and remember to instruct him. If I forget, you come back and say, hey.   Tell me how to access the archives   and about it once you get it. Alright.   Okay. That should be pretty easy. Okay. Good. What else, Annie?  

[00:17:01] Unknown:

Well, honestly, I have an appointment that I need to run to, and so I'm gonna keep this on in the background while I'm driving. So I I don't have a whole lot to say right now.  

[00:17:12] Unknown:

Alright. Well,   you go on about your business there. Paul, you're not back yet. Right?   Okay. Well, we'll try and poll him. Keep listening. Okay?   And I will.   Drive care   travel carefully.  

[00:17:27] Unknown:

Thank you. Roger.  

[00:17:30] Unknown:

Thank you. Bye. Hold on a second. Larry may help you here. Yeah. Larry?  

[00:17:37] Unknown:

Well, I was gonna talk about something different, but all she's gotta do is go on   on the matrix stocks and find the Pod home link,  

[00:17:47] Unknown:

and all the archives are there. So It's down at the bottom of the page, I believe.   K. Great. Thank you. Yes. Thank you. Alright. Yep. See you soon.  

[00:17:58] Unknown:

Okay. Talk to you later. Bye. Alright. Bye,  

[00:18:01] Unknown:

Larry.  

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Yeah. Speaking of Catherine,  

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these guys are so cute. These gals we've got on here, they're just so cute. Go ahead.  

[00:18:12] Unknown:

Yeah. Speaking of Catherine,   I know you spent   a considerable   amount of time   talking with her yesterday, and she stuck around for the after show.   And I had the opportunity to talk to her a little bit and give her my contact information.   And, we were discussing some things about the IRS,   and I was basically going over what you teach.   And that is that, you know, after you send in your affidavit to the secretary of state,   you begin and you immediately begin filing notices   with various   state officials. The first of which   is the attorney general   and, of course, the sheriff and   all these other officials.  

And, of course, you wanna put the IRS   on notice by sending   a notice and a copy of your affidavit to the,   to the commissioner.   And, then I started  

[00:19:06] Unknown:

Larry Larry, let me stop you right there because I wanna add a wrinkle in there. I think it'd be a good idea   when we're instructing people how to notice the IRS   that we also include the state taxing authority on the CC   deal. Because then you're knocking out both of those at one time, and you're showing the state that you're doing this with the big boys.  

[00:19:28] Unknown:

Yeah. That's that's true. But in my case, there are several states that don't have state income tax, so that's unnecessary. But Well, that ain't that wouldn't make any difference. True.   Right. Yeah. So anyway   and then I was going over, you know, occasionally, some of our students will have issues.   And I was giving an example   giving an example of a student that I'm I'm helping out right now who received what's known as an l t   26 letter   claiming they failed to file for,   2023.   And they became this student and and her husband became nationals in 2022.   They even filed a revocation of election   with the commissioner.  

And   here all these years later what is that? Like, almost four years later,   they're getting this automated,   let letter and notice from the IRS   saying we haven't received, you know, your 2023   filing.   So we're drafting a letter to deal with that.  

[00:20:29] Unknown:

And, so anyway, we're not That's usually a CP letter, isn't it?   CP 15 or the commission have returned their tax return for the year so and so that we think is a confirmatory   writing. So this is something different. You said it's an l t?  

[00:20:46] Unknown:

L t 26, and it's an automated   letter.   Okay. In other words, someone is obviously, someone physically did not send that out. It just AI spit it out. You know? Exactly. And so that's why   that's why, like, when I went over in my presentation, I include that language   from the, statute that   you you're asking the, IRS,   and I use that term loosely. You're directing them. Maybe that's a better word. You're directing them and instructing them. Instructing.   Yeah. You to to,   change your Social Security number status from that of a taxpayer   US citizen status to a nonresident   alien status   according to that statute that I went over during my presentation.  

And I think that's the problem.   I think when you set in your your affidavit   and notice the IRS commissioner,   I don't think the commissioner is reading every single letter. I believe he has a a staff,   an ex what you know, an executive staff.   And they're probably opening up these envelopes. And if they haven't been educated   and if they don't know their own rules, regulations, and codes,   they're not gonna properly update my   IRS system and database system   with what you're trying to instruct them to do.  

[00:22:08] Unknown:

And, It could be. We But anyway We're all speculating   on IRS. Hell, I don't know. It's just like, what do you do lawfully to boy? You send them a notice. I I don't know any more than that. There's not anything per their instructions, of course.   It's just doing things on our side. And,   you're it's all AI.   It's people that don't know what they're doing. I mean, this is hidden from them too, you know,   and except for the very hierarchy.   So, yeah, all those things. And except that here's what I was gonna interrupt and say, you're not you're changing your relationship   in their records   to your Social Security number. It doesn't then, you know, by all facts, we're still taxpayers, aren't we? There's two sections of the code they list there. If you got any taxes, you pay taxes on it. Doesn't that make you at least a potential taxpayer?  



[00:23:04] Unknown:

Well, I like to say that you're still required to pay   those taxes. That's a big there's a big difference between saying that   and and the presumption that you are a taxpayer. That is their term.   So I like to refer to us as lawful non taxpayers.   But, anyway,   I was going over this information,   and,   and, of course, you can't control everything that goes on   on the after show.  

[00:23:31] Unknown:

And, so Chris from California cut it. I could control nothing on the after show because I'm generally not there. What did Chris what did Chris say? Exactly.  

[00:23:41] Unknown:

So Chris from California cut in and said, here's all you have to do,   Catherine.   All you gotta do is tell   the IRS that you do not have income.   And then he went on to explain that   he had a friend thirty years ago,   that did that. They they told this this friend told the IRS that he did not have income.   And yet and the IRS left him alone to this very day. And I I said to Catherine and and to Chris   that promoting that kind of, you know, information and   suggestion   is kinda risky because,   you know, nowadays,   the IRS   considers such arguments as frivolous arguments, and then they will impose a frivolous filing fee. And nobody knew about your information that you teach thirty years ago. So I I would say that people should be careful about promoting information like that.  



[00:24:36] Unknown:

Well, I would say even the Supreme Court can't decide on what the word income definition is.   Even the Supreme Court can't. They're they they've got contradictory opinions on it. So,   I like that I'm exempt.   Tell them you're exempt. Go to the website.   On the website Paul, are you back yet?  

[00:25:01] Unknown:

I'm back, and I am so sorry for being late.  

[00:25:04] Unknown:

Hey, Alan. Well, Paul run running off doing something. Okay. Good to have you. You said that you weren't connected.   Paul, in a minute. Alright. Hold on, Alan. Hold on. We gotta put you on the back burner. I gotta get Paul to go over and and direct Annie, who's still listening, although she's off running an errand   on where to, access the archives.  

[00:25:27] Unknown:

At the bottom of the page on what No. What is it? It's not the bottom of the page. It's just the bottom of the very top of the page. Like, so if you bring it up on a computer,   right underneath the free conference call links is the Radio Ranch archives link.   So it's right underneath the free the FCC links.   Kinda just it's between   the FCC links and the other things, like for the Telegram and the docs link and all that stuff, it's right between there.   It's it's pretty prominent.   Oh, anyways.   Archie Blues.  

[00:26:07] Unknown:

Okay. Now what what do you do once you get there?   You can tap on the episode. There's something on the side you can tap on. It gives you the the transcript. You give her a little more specific info. Would you please? Well, what you do is,  

[00:26:23] Unknown:

when you click on the, the RadioRanch archives click here, when you click on the word here, it takes you to the list of all of the episodes.   And then you go down to the episode you want, and you tap on the title of that episode.   And then,   right underneath   the the player   on the episode page, you'll see   what look like Pendaflex file folder tabs, and you just tap on the one that says transcript, and   there it is right there. Okay.  

[00:26:55] Unknown:

K. Hope you got that, Annie.  

[00:26:58] Unknown:

I got it. Super easy.   Thank you.  

[00:27:01] Unknown:

Yes. You're welcome, dear.   Alan is with us. I guess you heard, Paul. He joined, and he's with us. Yes, sir. And Larry and I were having this discussion on what happened in the after show with Catherine and,   Chris yesterday. So that I'm just waiting for you to kinda come back and get that clarified.   Okay, Larry. Well, good to have you, Alan.   Get to you in just a second. Yes, sir. One thing first.  

[00:27:26] Unknown:

There was a problem   with yesterday's   archive.   I noticed it this morning, and I fixed it this morning. So if you were looking for yesterday's archive yesterday,   well, I'm not surprised you couldn't find it. But I did fix it this morning and all is well. Well,  

[00:27:45] Unknown:

stuff happens, you know. We're a slide by the seat of your pound sat outfit around here.   Now going back to, you know, Larry, what else do you need to tell the IRS but send them a copy of the affidavit? Doesn't that second paragraph cover it?  

[00:28:01] Unknown:

Yeah. Exactly. And I also,   agree with you about claiming that,   give our staff to him. We went over that. She was asking, how do I get wages,   to how do I get my employees to stop withholding? And I went over, you know, just like what I did. I logged in to my account, and I just check mark themselves on the on the online w four. And sometimes that works, and sometimes it doesn't.   Sometimes you get pushback from an employer. Some student  

[00:28:33] Unknown:

there's something to check to that anymore? It it depends on the employer. You don't know how they're gonna react. What we have is other options to approach them. And in the end, if it's either you're not gonna do this or you don't have a job,   then next year when it comes time to file, file a ten forty and arm, you'll get all that back.   So you got several options there.  

[00:28:58] Unknown:

So to me, I I I don't look at all these arguments, you know. Once the definition of wages You're usually real clear about all that. I make sense. Lair. That's it. Lair,  

[00:29:09] Unknown:

you're you're real usually real clear on your audio, and it sounds like you're talking a little misdirection to the microphone.   Could you,   like, talk right into the mic again? Let's see if we can get your good audio back.  

[00:29:25] Unknown:

Is that better?  

[00:29:27] Unknown:

Yeah. It is. Yeah.  

[00:29:29] Unknown:

Yeah. What I was saying is,   I I try not to get   too involved with all of these arguments that   the IRS will consider frivolous.   What is the definition of wages? What is the definition of income?   If you are a national   if you wanna call it, it's exempt from if you wanna call it the fruit of your labor, it's exempt from income taxes. That's what they call it, income taxes.  

[00:29:56] Unknown:

So Right. Well, you go right back to the one zero one dash one parenthesis small a. It's right there in that in that paragraph.   That's what we include in the affidavit as the second paragraph. That's why it's in there.   And, you know, it's an affidavit. You're sending it to them. The only way it can be overcome is if they do an afakay say affidavit saying, no. That's not right. It's here. And list what their facts are and then sign it under penalty of perjury. We haven't had that done once in fifteen years.   They can't. Do you understand?  

It's not that they won't. It says they can't.   We got the linchpin   on their income tax scheme.   They don't know what to do about it.   They have no answer. Right. Yeah. In fifteen years, they've never come after anybody and done anything, season, garnish, anything.   What does that tell you?  

[00:30:53] Unknown:

Right. It all comes down to the key and which is what you teach that   unless a defendant   can prove he is not a citizen of The United States, the IRS   has the right to invoke a tax liability. I'm paraphrasing.   Yeah. That's the thumbnail of that.  

[00:31:12] Unknown:

Yeah. Assessment collection. That was a   we think that was over on Copper Moonshine still for the new folks where I found it. First time I'd never seen this little site before.   It looks like I've never tracked it down. It looks like it was a, appellate level,   you know, like you'd find in Fed Supp, one of those.   And it says very plainly, unless a person can prove   can prove they're not a citizen of The United States, the IRS can move on to assessment and collection. Well, how's the only way you can prove it?   You gotta send some kind of a statement,   declaration, affidavit to the head guy, secretary of state. That's to my knowledge, that's the only way that can be accomplished.  

That's the only way you can prove you're a national   is the paperwork that's in the possession of the secretary that you sent them. And they can't overcome that. They can't say, well, no. They're not.   That's Catherine. She's a slave out in damn Kansas. And throw it in the in the round receptacle.   They can't do that because it's your decision what you are.   And if it isn't your decision what you are, then we're living in open tie tyranny, and they'll never do that.   Never.   So it's all right there. It's in front of you. You send them the notice   that you've sent to the secretary. And if they continue to contact you, we've had some specialized   little situations   because of an individual situation   that they were wanting them to file a return to match up with whatever the company sent into them. That's why they're saying send a return send a return.  

Okay. Well, that's an unusual little situation.   Otherwise, in that, they contact you. You send them back a copy of the original cover letter you sent them,   and the original copy of the affidavit say this was sent to you. If you've got your green card like Annie does, you can say here's the re here's the certified return receipt from your receipt where your, delegates signed it. You received it. It's in operation.   You're out of line,   basically.   This should be you gotta get forced. You can't be scared of these people anymore.   In fifteen years, they've never come and grabbed anybody's stuff. They've never garnished a bank account. They've never done seizures.  

They've never done anything that's ever been reported to me.   Okay. So somebody's talking in the background. Who's got a mic open there?   Female?   Something? Another conversation?   Thank you.   See, in my mind, the notice alone should,   suffice and cure and everything else because you're just more than likely, you're not gonna hear from them again. It's our experience.   Does anybody have any IRS comments? You wanna say, Roger, you're a liar? Yeah. Roger Spruce.   My car stolen or whatever. Okay, Bruce. Hey, Bruce. How are you doing?   I'm doing alright. How are you? Well, that's good. You're not Well, I'm a That's good.  



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I'm a different citizenship.   I get a letter from headquarters.   That's with the DMV.   And,   the first word on the line was   driver's license   number, and it was my ID number.   And it was telling me that I have four points   off of my,   driver's license.  

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Well, hold it. Hold it. Well, hold it. Hold it. Uh-huh. So what dry why there's a there's a Why there's a somebody close and get the echo out of there. Who'd you get a letter from, Bruce? You said the DMV. Did you get it yesterday or today or something? Yes. This was a, yeah, this was a headquarters of the state and not the local state. I can get it, you know, headquarters.  

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They were giving me I had four points off of my driver's license.  

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You're in Missouri? Driver's license. Yeah. Missouri?   Okay. Okay. Yep.  

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And it was my I didn't identification   card, not a driver. I didn't I applied for a driver's license.   So say they're using   words of art   that blame me that   I'm What? Got to verify.  

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Is is this an from the incident the other day?  

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Yeah.  

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Okay. So that was last Friday or Thursday. Right?  

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Yeah. Wednesday.   Because Wednesday. Wednesday.  

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So okay. So they've already got you that from the head DMV of Missouri.   What or they did you give them your passport card? What you gotta be a little more explanatory.  

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No. I haven't I haven't even I didn't even know about them.   Yeah.   So I I served everybody in the county and the state headquarters   of over   all of the,   you know, government, entity entities.   And, I did not send any she had already hid when I got my ID, I gave him my affidavit.  

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That was back when I came in to, Missouri. You say when you got your ID, you mean your driver's license?  

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No. My ID card.  

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I didn't have a passport. Not your passport. License.  

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No. I didn't have a passport yet when I got my   ID card in in Missouri.  

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Okay. So it's a state ID card, but not a driver's license.  

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Okay. Thank you. But they labeled it on that line   driver's license number.   It was my ID number.  

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Yeah.   Trick or What's the number they had? What's the number they had on file for you?  

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Yeah. But they had a driver's license. A driver's license. I I understand that. Number. Okay.   Okay. Alright. Gets deeper and deeper anymore anyway.  

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Okay.  

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Unit, did you go down to the police station and try and arrest the the officer yesterday?  

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No. Not yet. I'm in the middle of a situation helping my, aide. She's in a,   hurting situation. I'm up all night with her, helping her. So I'm kinda putting that out to out to  

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Well, you're already past I think you're already past your administrative   three days. So, it'll be interesting to see how it plays out. Keep us informed.   Alright. So we got some of that out of the way here. Somebody else got something to bring forward?   Did Catherine come back, or is she too scared after everything y'all told her?   We   don't know.   Okay. Where else can we go this morning?   Nobody's got any actuality   stories? Nobody's got any questions, comments,   observations?  

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Hey, Roger.  

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There's somebody right there. Who's that?  

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This is Ezana.  

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Ezana.   Hey, buddy.  

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Alright. Good. Well, I do have news for you.  

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Alright.  

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So   Dave Dave and Nathan   and I were   managed to,   to do some damage last night,   so to speak.   There's the he invited me to join a,   a a a Patriot call.   So I've got 17 people on it and a lot of discussions about,   all the,   you know,   the capital letter names and   all kinds of stuff. You know? Just they understand.   There's a presentation kinda setting, and, it was very interesting   information. But,   one missing detail in all the information they were sharing   was Rogers teaching   nationality.   So   it was, I finally got,   a chance to speak. And,   I don't know. Dave, you're there. What do you think?  



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Are you there, Dave? Are you there? You're gonna give us a overview of how Azana did?  

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Yeah. So I'll let him I'll let him express it. I love Azana.   I don't  

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need to get I do not need to get Dave's confirmation   because   of what I know of you so far. I know that whatever you did was exemplary.  

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Thank you. I was I was having a little bit of selfie out this morning, and I said, hey, David. We do the right thing.  

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Well, how'd the crowd react?   How'd the small handful of folks react? Dave, are you there or   not?   Uh-huh. I wish you was Okay. You must   well, he must he's there. He's just off doing something. So,   anyway, you told him about,   did you you told them, Azana, about how to   start down the path to ultimate freedom, did you?  

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Yeah. I I actually did. And and,   I got to a point where I I actually read my   affidavit of citizenship, and,   and I also read them the letter I got from the state department.   And then my   response to the state department letter and   how I got my,   passport in twenty four hour term   Uh-huh. Immediately once once they got it. So they the result   the host was asking questions, and there was a lot of discussions and stuff.   But I didn't expect that I would go that far. Yeah. I didn't expect I would go that far,   but   I started out by   kind of you know, there's a lot we were tricked in The US citizenship   type of presentation   and all these,   names, capital letter names, and so on and so forth.  

There's a lot of   very accurate information. I thought she was very,   concise and very accurate in her presentation,   and I appreciated that very much.   But, it was kind of,   we were   tricked tricked into it, and there there's no way out type  

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of presentation. We're stuck there type of presentation. Yeah. We got that can't happen. They don't have that much power. That can't.  

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And so I I was, yeah, I was able to,   towards the end, able to interject a little bit and say, hey.   Don't you think if there's a way in, there might also be a way out?   And,   and then she we started talking. She she said, yeah. But a lot of people have sacrificed their lives, and so many things have happened over the years. That's true. Very true.   And,   and so, I mean, I think I took my time and eventually led her to the,   Dave and Kay's website.   Yeah. And then she says she's familiar with that site   and,   and that   nationality,   non citizen nationality   or nationality is reserved for American Samoan.  

And, she she brought that up, and she said it's that that references American Samoan, so I don't think that's gonna work.   And then   I told her,  

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look.   There was  

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and it's you know, Americans make about 50,000,   give or take, you know, one or two   people. And and,   there are 260,000,000   people on in The US.   And, do you think,   the US government is so loving   and accommodating   to,   you know, these cultured people that they would,   call them a name and put a space on them in their federal documentation,   I'll throw out the documents, you know, everywhere in The US codes   just so to accommodate just this one tiny group of people.   Or maybe there's something else going on in there that they're using that name to cover,   something very, very important.  

And that is your nationality. And that's a shame. So I under I think she understood that.  

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It's And Let let me see if I can substitute a term. Okay. It's not necessarily your you could say nationality. I'm sure y'all use it. But it's from where do you get your rights and owe your duties. And duties.   Yeah. That's your status. Now that's what person legal person you are. It's more accurate, but you gotta go into some background with a lot of people because they just don't understand that. Hell, even attorneys and judges don't understand it. I I don't think.   Judges.   Yeah.   I know years ago. I remember one thing John said, Zana.   They don't forget. They hung out in Denver there for a number of years. Little patriot group.  

Very powerful people, it turns out. But one of the judges they were in front of one time, and and John   relayed this to us.   The judge said, if the patriots ever figure out what's going on here or what happened, I remember how he phrased it, Said there's gonna be hell to   pay. And that's where we are. We're the ones that have found it. We just gotta spread the word. They've done a very good job   at screwing up everybody's mind with all their various techniques and approaches,   but we're the ones that are supposed to be the nucleus of this and spread it. That's another reason I insist. Please learn the information.   See, if Azana didn't know the information, he wouldn't have been able to get on that call last night and do this.  

You've got to have control of the information. If you think it's a paper filing game,   then you're not free.   If you're doing this just to get out of the IRS, and I can go through this and get them off my back, I'm a go around and and and live my life the way I always have. You're not free.   My my 2¢. Go ahead, Adriana.   Dave, are you back yet?   I just on her. Oh, well, there's some I think that's Sherry. Is that you?  

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It is.  

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You sound very distant. Talk right into the speaker if you could, and go ahead.  

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I'm   I'm on my home phone.   Communications   these days are being   what's the word I'm looking for? Trampled on.   So,   forgive   my delivery   of my It's different.  

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Well, we we hear you. You're clear. You're just a little bit distant. So   go ahead, Sherry. Welcome back. We haven't seen you too much lately. What you got for us?  

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Well, Ezana,   the phone call you were invited to last night, could you share a little bit more information?   Before you answer that, may I say thank you for stepping up to the plate   to inform and to educate others in this regard?   But it might be a podcast or a phone call that most of us would   try to avoid.  

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Oh,   yes.   That's   probably true.   It was, I joined because, I I really I wasn't really familiar with the group.   I got a text from Dave. He says, join if you can   last night, and I was able to I was a little bit late to join.   So,   it was a Jural assembly.   It's a group that they have FCC   conference,   and, the group is called Jural,   j u r a l, Assembly.  

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And,  

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I mean, there's a lot of education,   mostly   what we all know,   pretty much all the conversations we have here   except,   nationality,   the topic of nationality, and I don't think they've come across that.   And and   and though there were   at least   there was at least one gentleman from Michigan   that understood some of the codes that we refer to normally here in US code,   such as a title 26, the first line.   When did there were several others that he put it out? Yeah.   There were several other lines that he put out.   But,   I mean, it was   I just   kinda put myself forward, introduced myself, and   better ask for apology than   than not do it.  



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And so I just Isana? Jumped in and started with it. Yes. It hijacked. Was that was that Joe Belton out of Michigan with the journal sounds like?  

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No. I don't remember the the I don't actually No. It was Charlene in California,  

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Julie. Thank you. Alright. Was Charlene   Charlene. Okay. Charlene out of California.  

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Okay. Yeah. My first time meeting her. Okay. Thank you. Yeah. She's great. She's amazing. Hey, Dave. Can can you can you give a a summary of what you thought how you thought it went?   Because I was sweaty this morning.  

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I'll tell you what. This is the deal. This group   I've been with since,   you know, 2015   or so.   They formed in 2010 out of Michigan,   but a lot of these guys believe that they're afraid of this. They think the whole state has to turn   at the same time   as a national.   You know, Anna was involved with this group way back in the beginning,   and they were hoodwinked.   And they really live they really believe the whole state has to do it at the same time.   And I've been trying to tell them that, look. You guys aren't getting anywhere because your your subjects, your property, and property can't own property. And,   you know, I've been talking to Yosanna, and, you know, I knew he wanted to get involved with the   the the Republican Party in Texas there. So not so he can vote or whatever, so he could teach him to be nationals. And I thought this would be a great opportunity for this guy who who volunteered   to be an a US citizen, and then he volunteered back out and he became a national. And if that isn't powerful,   I don't know what is. And, I mean, it Izana is an amazing man, and,   I I'm telling you, he knocked it out of the park. There was very little,   conversation, but people were listening. I don't know how many people get on that call.  

It's a training call, you know, they have a part one, two and three.   You know, each part is always the same. They've been doing it for over a year, you know, just trying to educate people, what is a journal assembly   and why we do it. And you know, what common law is and, you know, that's what, that's where they go and they want the, you know, everybody to become part of the assembly so we can take back this country. But I told them, I've told them many times, you can't do it as property, you know, feudal system.   You guys are all, you don't even know it.  



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You're not gonna do it as a group either.   You gotta do this as an individual decision just like your spirituality,   your freedom. There's people that do not want to come out of that system, and you can't make them.   Okay? So this is an individual thing. And if it was if we would have waited for the whole country to fight King George,   we'd have never been a country because only three to 5% of the people want to fight King George.   We can do that same thing because our weapon,   they think the weapons against the government   or the agents of government, the weapon is against the tax system.  

That's their weakness.   That's how you can really hurt them is to pull yourself out of the tax system. And we got 10 to 20% of the country, the high producers.   Those are the ones that are paying the tax, aren't they?   The people that care, that get out and work, have a small business,   whatever,   they   get an attack from that tax system to the tune of 10 or 20% of the population.   These people got big problems on this debt thing already.  

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Hey, Roger.  

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K. They're scary. Hey, Gary. But, yeah, Azana,   thank you. You're exemplary,   and we really appreciate you. K? And here, a black ode Ethiopia I hear you. It's naturalized   and been gone,   back to being a national is educating all these Americans who don't understand it totally yet. Hopefully,   they will. Hey, Gary.  

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Roger, hang on, Gary. I told that's what I told these people. This this guy,   Izana is is a real American,   and I'm telling you, he he's he's exemplifying it just for the fact that he became a US citizen, and he figured out how to get out, and they let him out. They couldn't stop him. And I'm telling you, people, this is real, and you better check it out. And he's on him was a magnificent   on that call. And we kinda tag teamed him, and I I think we we nailed it. It was awesome. It was a lot of fun.  

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Yeah. It it   it is fun. It's fun. And I appreciate both of you. And and and thank you and congratulate you and all, and you're   both becoming examples of what I teach.   Make this information yours. When you do, you're not only defending able to defend your position, you're able to go out here and influence people like this. And if you don't know the information you're understanding, you can't do that.  

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Yeah. I tell people this is a Claymore sword   and learning it teaches you how to yield   wield that sword.  

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Yeah. Well, you could tell them it's Excalibur.   Maybe they'd also relate to it.  

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Okay. Now let's see. Captain that this morning.  

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Yeah. Cool.   Yep.   Gary,   how's the temperature out there in Flathead County?  

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We're having a pretty day today. It'll be up in the forties.  

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Oh, good. Yep.  

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Still no snow on the ground, which is highly unusual  

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for this time of year.  

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Uh-huh. Oh, I'm sure it's be gonna be coming.  

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Roger, you know I've been around this movement for, what, seventeen years? Well, I've been around  

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this radio show for the almost the whole time we've been doing it.  

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So   first of all, you don't need these long winded things to the IRS. All you need is one letter,   one sentence says, see my attached affidavit. That's it. Send it back in. Don't ignore it. I agree. I agree. Don't   throw it in the trash can,   but just send them one sentence and forget about it.   I haven't filed taxes in seventeen years, people.   I've never once   got a letter from the IRS.   Never.  

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That's good, Gere. Nope.  

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And No AI generated  

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Once you're out of the system for a couple of years, then you they you drop out of   view and perspective for them. I don't know. Five, seven, or some of that. But at some point, you just drop out of the system. They're not gonna come back and ding you.   Now  

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And the reason you're getting these letters is because, hey. You've been a tax filer. You've been a US citizen That's right. For quite a while.   And now all of a sudden, you're no longer that person,   that tax filer. So they want and they're after income. They're after taxes, people. Come on.   They want your money.   They've robbed you your whole life, so   why stop now?  

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Yeah.  

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Oh, and the other thing, I've been around these all these   general societies, tactical civics,   talk to their leaders   before.   And these people are educated that what we're teaching   is false,   is gonna get them in trouble,   is gonna get them put in jail,   everything. So you got a big uphill battle with these people.   I've been there. I've done it.  

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And in many instances with your employer because your employer is probably more scared of them than you are. K?   And your employer ain't gonna fight your tax battles for you. I'm gonna tell you that right now.  

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And every one of these groups out there   has infiltrators   in them.   Telling you, they do. That's true too.  

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Oh, yeah. Well, we welcome them here. I wish they'd identify themselves. Maybe I could educate them a little bit.  

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K? Yeah. That's why I I welcome people listening in. Hell, I'm hoping I can they'll learn something.  

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In. Hell, I'm hoping I can  

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they'll learn something. Yeah. Roger, you know as well as I do that there's an agent listening in on these calls every day.   If not listening in, they go to the archives and listen to the archives.  

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Yeah. Probably. I encourage them to get a transcript too.  

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Yeah. I know.   Anyway, that's all I got.  

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Have a good day. Give our best to your lovely wife, Gina, please.   Alright. Who else has got this?   This is Anna   exemplary for both of you. Alright. Hold on, Chris. We got a Dave. You had a follow-up?  

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Yes.   You ever heard of the Bivens   decision,   Gary, or you, or anybody?  

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Yes. I have. So I  

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before every one of our calls,   they read that Bivens decision that it says if there's any agents,   you know, anybody working for the government in any capacity,   they have to speak up. It's it's,   constitutional or   not maybe not constitutional, but it's,   supreme   court, you know. Yes.   And so we read that, and sometimes people speak up. You know, we do have people in Michigan in our group that,   you know, they work for their little townships,   as trustees or whatever, and they're they're battling, man. They are trying to bring this this, fight to to their local communities. Right?   And,   but, you know,   if we read that if if Paul reads that Bivens decision   every day at the beginning of the call,   you may get some agents, that feel they have to speak up, and I yield. Alright.  



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Alright. Well, they can sit silent if they want. I just hope they absorb something. We're not doing anything wrong. Everything's right by their statutes and their system.   They agree with us 100%,   and they agree with us 100% of the time because there's never an objection.   Oh, I need to know.   Thank you, Dave.   Bivens. I that's used a lot. I thought Bivens was exculpatory.   What's the one that's about about they can't withhold exculpatory   evidence?   Anyway, that's all this, more legal   stuff. Yeah. I'm not sure right now. Okay. I know Chris is wanting to say something. Chris, what do you got, buddy?   Okay. I'm gonna say something very profound that I haven't You sound really good. Your audio connection is exceptionally good today. Okay?  

Well,   I'm sorry. Do hold on. What? Alright. Well, I'm gonna have to put put you on the back burner. There's our whistler.   That means Paul is gonna come out and say goodbye to some folks here, and then we'll pick you right back up on the other side. And if you missed what Chris has got to say,   well, you can always join us live. Paul, do you hear?   Okay. Paul is distracted today. We'll say goodbye to Chicago. I believe it's w  

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No. D or b o u? Alright. W w b o u FM Chicago and the Nat family of broadcast services. Thank you for being with us. Follow us into the second hour by going to   the matrixdocs.com,   clicking on either Euro Folk Global Voice or the free conference call link. Ciao.  

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I slid in right under the wire, man. Okay, Chris. We're gonna turn back to you.   Now floor is yours. Okay.  

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The payment of taxes   is required   to induce value into a fiat currency   Because you can't pay your property taxes,   you can't pay   your income taxes, you can't pay any you can't stay out of trouble with the government   unless you somehow   get their federal reserve notes that have been declared as legal tender in order to pay the tax.   Now if you didn't have to do that,   then they would have no then   their their whole operation would lose its value. Would completely lose everything   because if you did it if you if you if you could trade eggs   for your property taxes   or if you could, you know, appease these tax collectors, road taxes, whatever,   you know, all kinds of taxes.  

All the taxes   are for the purpose   of strengthening their system   and giving their phony money value   because Yeah. You can't pay your way through life any other way than to get what they provide.  

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Okay. And on the on this currency, it says the full faith and credit of The United States. Right?  

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What it says.  

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Okay. What's that?  

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Fraud.  

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No. It's not a fraud.   The full faith and credit is not on the currency. It's on the bonds that back the currency.   And the full faith and credit of The United States is that your tax money will go and pay those bondholders their coupon payments.   That keeps the whole system propped up.  

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That's true. You're right. And the and the It's just a little more specific.  

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Yeah. Well, it gets complicated. I would just wanna keep it simple. Well, that's what I try and do is keep it simple because it is complex, but we do know some of the simplistic ways that the system is structured.   This it took me many years to understand this, Chris.   That's the Achilles heel of the system is getting the original credit spout   satisfied.   If you don't do that, it's bankruptcy.   That's why we're here and what they used to get us into this condition in '33 was a bankruptcy in the bond market.   See, that's all within the financial community.  

There is no take   take The United States to the international bankruptcy court. There is none of that. So it could be done   not on the surface, but underneath.   And that's exactly what they did.   So good. Thank you, Chris. Somebody else got something to add to that line of thought, or Samuel's gonna start something new? Now there's a female right there. Not new. Samuel.   Okay. So let let's see who the female is. Yes, ma'am?  

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It's Sherry again.   And let me just say,   the first and foremost thing they do is get our consent,   and that's why we have to withdraw. Well, that's the two questions.  

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That's your consent.  

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I believe you didn't realize that at the time. Oh, no. Nobody did.  

[01:03:47] Unknown:

Right. But it's it's amazing to me how integral a part that is the   integral part of the whole system is getting you to answer those two questions, yes, and sign something. And they knew a hundred and fifty years ago that they were gonna ask you those two questions,   and they knew you were gonna answer them yes and sign it and agree.   Amazing. Go ahead, Sherry. The signature  

[01:04:11] Unknown:

is the monetary   aspect of it. Yep.   Yep. Your consent   and then you provide   the bond.   I use  

[01:04:22] Unknown:

Well, I don't know about the bond thing. Samuel, how are you doing, brother? Good morning.  

[01:04:26] Unknown:

Good morning.   Just wanted to put in there, our buddy Lincoln   started this as well. In 1862,   he passed the first ever in this country   income tax   along with bonds   and along with the National Bank.   This guy was the beginning of all of this crap.  

[01:04:47] Unknown:

Uh-huh. But who would who did the income tax apply to?  

[01:04:52] Unknown:

Federal employees at the time, but he also attached it to sales of things. So it was universal  

[01:04:59] Unknown:

in that regard. I've I've never heard about him with a sales tax. I know that the only people that had to pay that   is the government employees, and then who's responsible for taxing it out of circulation   didn't do their job, and that's why the greenback wasn't worth the flip after a little while.  

[01:05:16] Unknown:

I think that's probably where they started, didn't come.  

[01:05:21] Unknown:

Could be.   Could be. We don't, by any chance, have any new students on today, do we?   Any of those 17   that Dave and Ivana talked to or any other folks have been like Annie and her husband sitting back for a year to   make a decision or any of those kind of folks? Any of you alerting?   Wanna say hi? Ask a question?  

[01:05:42] Unknown:

Catherine's There's Susan. In. Next to Catherine.  

[01:05:47] Unknown:

And now and now pardon me. Who who is this, ma'am?  

[01:05:50] Unknown:

This is Catherine.  

[01:05:52] Unknown:

Oh, hey, Catherine. Well, Catherine   Kansas Catherine? You Kansas Catherine or Sausalito   Catherine?  

[01:06:01] Unknown:

Well, as you would say, damn Kansas.  

[01:06:04] Unknown:

And I mean, to that point, it's true. I got nothing wrong with Kansas. Go go. We're glad you're back, though.  

[01:06:13] Unknown:

I wanted   to be sure   before I move forward that there wasn't any negative   repercussions of this   because we do depend on our Social Security, so that's where I started out. But I didn't mean to come across negatively. And I already had a That's okay.   A little bit forward.   Okay.  

[01:06:33] Unknown:

Well, later, you said you like to approach things in a devil's advocate manner, and I appreciate either one. There's no criticism.   I will tell you, and I don't know if I did when we spoke initially yesterday,   when I I opened up my Social Security account when I was in Argentina,   well, fifteen years ago.   And,   you have to open up your account if you're outside The US.   You have to go through an embassy or the embassy in the country you're in. So that's what I had to do.   And, I included my affidavit when I opened my account.   But you see, again, here's the here's the quirk. You don't have to be a US citizen to be in Social Security. Anybody in the world can contract with Social Security if they want to.  



[01:07:24] Unknown:

I see.  

[01:07:26] Unknown:

Okay.   But no. I've been I've been drawing it every month for,   well, better than fifteen years now, and I sure am grateful for it. I used to talk bad about it when I was younger, not understanding it. But when I can apply it to my own personal situation,   I would have never saved that 2 or $3,   that came out of some of those   tax stubs that my employer matched.   We had never saved that. I'd never had access to it. And here, although it's not I couldn't even rent an apartment in The US, I don't think, on what I get. But down here in Ecuador, I can live very, very comfortably.   Well, let me give you a comparison.  

The average wage of the Ecuadorian   is, I think, about $490   a month.  

[01:08:14] Unknown:

Wow.  

[01:08:17] Unknown:

So you come down here   yeah. You you come down here with, you know, 1,200, 1,500 plus.   I have one of our guys down here was telling us he gets to almost $3,000   a month out of Social Security.   I thought, shit. You can live like a a monarch down here almost on that. But you see, here's the thing on social security for everybody that I learned the hard way   because I wasn't working very much on, you gotta get 40 quarters in. That's the requirement.   And so at the end of my working career, I was teaching.   I wasn't teaching. I was part time. They weren't giving me a couple hours a week usually.   And so I wasn't showing a bunch of, pass through currency at that point. And that's why they figure your Social Security payment   on the last four quarters.  

So whatever your contributions are, if you got a big time job and you're contributing big time towards the end of career, you get, you know, a lot more. But I'm alright with it. I don't care about their money. I've got my own resources anyway.   But that's, don't don't worry about that, Catherine, because there's no effect there. There's no effect we've seen on any military payments,   retirements,   pensions,   unless you're directly working for the federal government, you don't have any tax obligations.   If you have one of those jobs,   contractor or direct employee, you gotta there's a tax involved.  

You gotta pay it.   And that goes under the auspices   of you receive the benefit you owe the duty. It's a benefit to work for the federal government. That income is considered that or that's considered income to you, and you gotta pay taxes on it.   K?  

[01:10:03] Unknown:

Yep.  

[01:10:05] Unknown:

Outside that, you're free, girl. What is, is your husband retired?  

[01:10:11] Unknown:

I had some other questions. Yeah. My husband is the one retired.  

[01:10:16] Unknown:

Okay. My husband's the one. Well, let's hear let's hear these questions. We love these questions. Come on.  

[01:10:22] Unknown:

Well, thank you.   I'm gonna get to talk.  

[01:10:26] Unknown:

Yeah. I feel like a I feel like a catcher in baseball.   Just said throw that ball. Throw that ball. Let's see if we can catch it. Good. I'm glad you caught that.  

[01:10:36] Unknown:

So Dave's wife, Pam, sent me months ago the affidavit information, which I've read over.   I don't know if   it it says use the language below, but there's no language below. I've read the whole thing three times.  

[01:10:54] Unknown:

And Cool. Let me see if I can pull it up. Is that that's not our sample affidavit, is it?  

[01:11:00] Unknown:

Well,   I think that's where she got it.   So  

[01:11:05] Unknown:

let me But there's no writing on it?  

[01:11:09] Unknown:

I clicked new student. Yes. There is writing on it. Let me read it to you. Oh, okay. I'm pretty sure I know what it is, but go ahead.   So at the top, it says,   steps to freedom status   without US passport application   from your citizenship evidences.   Then you put, I declare, under penalty of perjury under the law of United States America, foregoing   to incorrect. And then it says, to use the language stated below.   Draft a short and concise letter to The US secretary of state per language below. There is no language below.   There's paragraphs.  

One starts out the idea of step by step guide, blah blah. The next paragraph is the people worldwide in the 01/20/2021   had their collective   ox   gored,   g o r e d, gored, whatever that is. Gorged. Gorged.   Well, that's spelled wrong then because it's g o r e d.  

[01:12:12] Unknown:

Okay. Gored. Okay. Well, that's what I'm saying. Phonetically, it's correct. Go ahead.  

[01:12:21] Unknown:

Roger gourd. It's gourd by when you get gourd by an ox, he sticks his horns in your gut. Well, that's not He got gourd.  

[01:12:30] Unknown:

I understand that. Well, that's what they'll do. Catherine does. Okay. Well, let's go ahead here with with what she's saying.   Okay.   You got this from day from Pam, Dave's wife. Right?   Right. I'm not seeing any language in this paper. Okay. Well, is that for the cover is that for the cover letter or the affidavit?  

[01:12:52] Unknown:

Well, the tab, it says instructions   filing national affidavit with The US secretary of state.  

[01:12:59] Unknown:

So it's not a cover letter, not the affidavit. It's instructions for the It's instructions. Okay. Well, let's see here. First thing you do is you got this simple affidavit. There's a sample on our website. You don't have to use that if you don't want to. I can give you a much shorter one. It's one one sentence,   and this one's straight from the state department.   I, Catherine in Kansas, do solemnly swear my intent to be a national and not a citizen of The United States. Go get an is it either that as a declaration   or make it an affidavit, get it notarized, and send it to them. You do it with one sentence. It's not what you say.  

It's what you say and what it means.   I'm trying to, however you wanna interpret it, federal government.   I'm trying to break this   previous nexus I've erroneously,   entered into with you by answering those two questions. Yes.   That's my option. There was fraud involved. Yeah. I'm not telling you to write all this down.   But this the idea behind it, okay, is that there's fraud involved.   They know there's fraud involved at the highest levels, and that's why they don't ever question it. So it's very simple process. You can do that one sentence. You can do the two paragraph.   If you wanna do your own and you've been studying law for years, you can do that.  

I highly encourage you to keep it as short as possible and concise. Don't give them any wiggle room. The more declarations   a person makes, the more chance that gives someone a, an opportunity   to confront those declarations.   Don't make them unless you they're they're very simple. K? Then you put a cover letter to the secretary of state. Please find the enclosed   affidavit of citizenship   evidence.   They understand that language. That's what they call it in the 7th Floor in the Law Building of the secretary of state. Internally,   they refer to affidavits as citizenship   evidence.  

K? And you attach that and say, please find the enclosed affidavit of citizenship   evidence. Please,   adjust your, your records accordingly.   See you later.   Is it anything big? It's nothing in-depth.   It doesn't have to be complex. The simpler you keep it, the better it'll work.  

[01:15:20] Unknown:

K. So is all I need then is I declare,   under penalty of perjury,   under the laws of The United States Of America   Very good. That that the foregoing is too incorrect, that I am a national. That's all I need to put on there.  

[01:15:36] Unknown:

That's really all. And and don't just say I am a national, say and not a citizen of The United States. Give them both sides and show them which one you're picking.   Okay. Please adjust your records.   Please adjust your records   accordingly.   Now at the top of that   letter, we put big bold capital letters,   notice,   legal,   lawful   notice.   Big capital bold letters at the top.   To the secretary of state, that's really all you need to do. You you you could put   notice to the principal is notice to the agent, notice to the agent, notice to the agent, notice to the principal. You are gonna be sending this to one at least one. I'm I'm sure of their agents, that would be the IRS.   But we usually reserve that language for the state people.  

Okay. There is no perfect way to do this. There's probably some things that we still haven't figured out, but this is just an a process that's been adjusted over many years   as situations   came up and we found out their effect on what we're doing   and how to compensate for them or overcome them.   Okay. Such as,   on the notice to IRS,   you're gonna put legal lawful notice at the top.   Then you're gonna put   not to this,   not to be considered   a filing   or not to be construed   as a filing   because then that takes the only weapon they've got left,   which is a $5,000   frivolous filing penalty,   and it takes it right out of their hands.  

So there is a method to the madness. I'll get you just a second. There's a method to the madness here, but it's things we've learned over the long stretch. Yes. Here's the comment.  

[01:17:38] Unknown:

Larry,   Roger, I have an idea. Why don't you take Catherine? Because she's always on her computer while she's talking to you. And I know you've done this, on several interviews   in the past. Take her to the, to the the government website travel.gov   and show her that that one statement. The end. Yeah. We'll do this. Well, that's where that  

[01:18:01] Unknown:

one statement declaration comes from. There's some other really important things on this. We haven't covered it with you yet,   as Larry   adequately noted.   Go to travel.state.gov.   That's the state department website.  

[01:18:18] Unknown:

Okay.  

[01:18:20] Unknown:

Go over to the search bar on the top right  

[01:18:24] Unknown:

and type in Well, let me just search tip.  

[01:18:27] Unknown:

Okay. Hold on. Alright. Yes, ma'am.  

[01:18:30] Unknown:

Travel.state?.gov.   .State.gov.  

[01:18:41] Unknown:

Okay.  

[01:18:42] Unknown:

Up at the top right, there's a search field.   You wanna put in certificate   of non   citizen   nationality.   Certificate. There'll be a bunch of options will   will come up.   There's a number of different   versions, whatever, this on there. Just pick one.  

[01:19:08] Unknown:

Non citizenship   nationality?  

[01:19:11] Unknown:

No. Noncitizen   nationality.  

[01:19:16] Unknown:

Noncitizen  

[01:19:17] Unknown:

of noncitizen   nationality.  

[01:19:22] Unknown:

Nationality.  

[01:19:27] Unknown:

Follow those in the audience that are new. Follow the bouncing ball.  

[01:19:36] Unknown:

Follow the bouncing ball. You mean the rabbit hole?  

[01:19:39] Unknown:

No. I mean, you go down and do exactly what I'm telling you to do.   Go to travel.state.gov.   Go to the search field. Put in certificate   of non   citizen nationality.   A number of different options are gonna show up. Just pick one.  

[01:19:59] Unknown:

Okay.  

[01:20:00] Unknown:

Pick one and then that's   that's instructions on how to go about it?  

[01:20:05] Unknown:

I'm gonna tell you what it is right now.   Well, there's two parts to this. There's a policy statement at the top,   and then there's a breakdown of some of it underneath. And then at the very bottom of the page is where that one sentence I just gave you   came comes from, from their own page here on their policy statement.   So but you gotta interpret it here. But this is one of the most honest   places you're ever gonna see these sonbitches. Okay?   So I'm not sure which version you got, but it should be either because they changed it. It used to be in the second paragraph, and then sometimes it's now the third.   So either the second or the third paragraph of that top part, the policy statement,   excuse me, starts with this, according to the INA.  

You see that?   According to the INA.   It's either the second or third paragraph.  

[01:21:07] Unknown:

Wow. It's not here at all.   Really? The top it's   certificates of noncitizen   nationality.   First paragraph starts with the department.  

[01:21:18] Unknown:

Yeah. It's similar to the second one. The second one says as defined by the INA. That's the one you want. I yield.  

[01:21:25] Unknown:

Yeah. I've said according. I'm so I said according. I'm sorry. It's defined. Thank you, Julie.   Alright. Do you see that one?   Yeah.   Okay. Now we're gonna read it together. The INA is the Immigration and Naturalization   Act.   What they're doing here   is they're telling you, it says, hey,   this is from an American Samoan   perspective.   Because a non hyphen citizen   is an American   Samoan.   And they they the difference in the American Samoans is a tiny little island on the other side of the world, and they have natural rights.   But they're non citizens   because they're nationals,   but they cannot be citizens of The United States, federal citizens,   without   naturalization.  

So that's them.   And we have both sides, you see. You're moving from being a citizen of The United States over to being a national.   They never had the opportunity to be the citizen of The United States.   Not even the only option they had was to come and apply for naturalization.   K? So this is who this document is written to   policy wise. And it said we used to issue these, declarations of non citizenship,   but, you know, Catherine, the price of paper and the price of ink has have gotten so absorbent   that we really suggest we don't do those anymore. They're very expensive, and we suggest you just apply for a passport.   Now   if an American Samoan   applies for a passport,   back in the visa section where they do visa stamps,   on the very first page,   there'll be a big black   stamp.  

This person is not a citizen of The United States.   So that's what this document's about.   Now this paragraph   that we've directed you to,   it says, as defined by the INA, by the Immigration and Naturalization   Act, now strap yourself in here, Catherine,   all, a l l, all   US citizens   are US nationals.   You see that?   Yeah.   Stunning, isn't it? Yes.   Have you ever seen them be that honest before?   No.   Now the reason   the reason they're doing it is because they're having to set up American Samoa.   Because you'll notice it now says,   but only a few nationals   are not citizens of The United States. Those are American Samoans.  

But all US citizens are US nationals.   That may be a little too complex for you at this point. I can go ahead and explain it to you. It depends on all court cases, and it goes back to the Jim Crow laws.   K? And see, they couldn't have Jim Crow   separate but equal because that represents both statuses.   So they had to overcome that   and combine   them   somehow   in some tortured legal reasoning   where they say that a man that gets God given rights and knows God his duties is the same that have somebody with civil rights   that gets their civil rights in the federal government and knows the federal government the duties.  

Somehow, in Brown versus Board of Education   in 1954,   they combined those two.   And what you're doing there is you're seeing it in print.   All   US citizens   are US nationals.   There is no black. There is no white.   However,   you can go to title 42 in The United States code,   the civil rights code.   And you can go to section nineteen   eighty three.   And it will say,   the privileges and immunities   of the citizens of The United States   are the same as the white   citizens.   Right there in the code.   So all that combines this statement   and what you're seeing right there in front of you, which I will reiterate is about the most honest you're ever gonna see these sonbitches.  

K?   I was stunned when I saw it.   Now then,   let's go down outside and below the policy statement,   and they break down some of the sections of the INA.   And I don't remember what they're right close to the top right there. I think it's section three zero eight.   Here comes our very familiar statement from the Nationality   Act of 1940   where they originally hid   the state citizen as a national   that I can find.   And the statement is   a national, doesn't say US national,   doesn't say   non citizen national,   it just says a national.   A national   owes com total   allegiance   to a small   s   state.  

Just, if you see that,   what I'm gonna tell you is   everything turns on that one   sentence   right   there.   A national owes it. See, you haven't been exposed to this yet, so you're not privy to how powerful that sentence is.   Because the one word, if you were,   there's a couple of words that would jump out at you. National,   allegiance,   and small less state.   National, we know a little bit about. Allegiance, we don't know much about with Catherine yet. This is the feudal system.   It's showing you the feudal   system. The formula for jurisdiction are what gives that man over there   the right to make man made laws and apply them and enforce them on me. That's the question.  

That means this comes from the feudal system, and it is the formula for jurisdiction.   And that formula is ancient, if you will,   and automatic.   And when I say automatic, what I mean is the the formula is   allegiance for protection, protection for allegiance.   It's from the feudal system.   Excuse me. Catherine, have you seen   movies where the guy's in his armor and he's talking to to the big guy and he he bumps his chest and goes, yes, my liege. Yes, my liege. You ever seen that?  

[01:28:45] Unknown:

No.  

[01:28:46] Unknown:

Well, that's in a lot of old movies. That's the feudal system. That's this here. My liege is the relationship between a liege man and his liege lord. Let me reinterpret that for you. The relationship   is between a serf and the lord of the manor.   He is the liege lord.   The serf is the liege man.   And the liege, l l e I g e, is the brute word of the word allegiance.   And that is one of the formula here. Allegiance for protection,   protection for allegiance.   Either time, anytime, either one of those words is associated   in a legal situation,   it automatically   invokes the other.  

So when you see that word allegiance,   if you understood all this, you'd automatically   know that your allegiance is switching   from the federal government to a small s state because you're a national,   which is the new label for the state citizen.   Now I just threw a whole bunch at you.   K? Yeah.   It's not hard. It's just new.   Right. So there you go. And you see that very important sentence   that 99 out of a 100 people wouldn't understand what it means. They just blow right past it. So if you'll look down a couple of more, you'll see it defines federal states.   Not the small s state, but it it it defines federal states. It tells you it's Washington DC, Puerto Rico, Guam, whatever.  

And you notice that that's a capital s.   Federal states are capital s.   You're going back to one of the original states and yours is a small s.   Tells you a lot. It should tell you a lot.   Okay? Because they're telling you right there.  

[01:30:45] Unknown:

And I put United States in my affidavit,   the little s state?  

[01:30:50] Unknown:

No. You don't have to do that. I would just always refer to The United States Of America   as you did in that penalty of perjury, that jurat.   Because there's two jurats, and they both say the same thing, and the only difference is of America.   So one of them is inside The United States, the other is outside   The United States. As you've already made up your mind to do this, as you're signing that affidavit,   that will be the applicable per penalty of perjury. Because once you've made up your mind to get out of these people,   the only difference is the formality of selling them in this piece of paper you've done so.  

So already you're a national.   So you can use either one. Either one will work. There's no big gotcha here. I'm just showing you the minute differences   that go to further reinforce the fact that we're dealing with two separate entities.   We're dealing with the federal government and we're dealing with the state government.   Always heretofore,   when you said   on those two questions, you're a resident   or you're a citizen of The United States, a federal citizen.   Now see, that automatically   invokes the formula.   Because if you're their citizen,   then you're giving them allegiance and they automatically owe you protection.  

And that's the relationship you're switching.   You're switching your allegiance from the federal government   back over to the state government. You're switching your law   umbrella from civil rights over to god given rights.   Pretty important.  

[01:32:32] Unknown:

But that doesn't mean if  

[01:32:36] Unknown:

That doesn't mean That doesn't mean what, Catherine?  

[01:32:39] Unknown:

If someone was to break into my home, I could still call the police department for protection.  

[01:32:46] Unknown:

Well, yes, you could. Unless you went through a loyal title and wanna take your property off the property property rolls, then that might be a different situation. But if they were breaking into your house and already committed a crime,   which they would have already trespassed, then that is under the common law, and you should be protected by your police. Now the see, they don't know all this stuff.  

[01:33:14] Unknown:

K.  

[01:33:16] Unknown:

Do you protect by the state patrol?  

[01:33:19] Unknown:

Yeah. Be protected by the state patrol common law.   I had that question from an email. A girl's going, what about I went into admiralty and maritime, and I went into this court thing, and I'm a state national and all this stuff. And woah. Woah. Woah. Kim, hold on.   Let's get your terminology   straightened out. And I tried to do that shortly and, you know, it was hard to do that in emails because it just gets long and drawn out. I don't like doing that. That way, it's two dimensional   communication. I said, come join the show. Let me let me show you. You know? This isn't there's no such thing as a state national.   Why would you wanna be something that there's no such thing?  

There's no court case. There's no statute. There's no regulation.   There's nothing anywhere in their system that uses the phrase state national.   Now used to, they used the phrase state citizen,   and now they've changed it and labeled it as a national.   And it could be a national as it says in that three zero eight. It could be a US national as it refers to otherwise. We're still nebulous about. It could be a noncitizen   national. It's American Samoa. Hell, it may be other things.   K? So we don't know, but we do know if you use the word national that you're covered.   So don't worry about all those other things. There's no sense in fretting about it and getting yourself upset.  

Do I need to change my affidavit? No. No. No. No. You don't.   Because you're a you're a layperson.   You're not an attorney.   You're not held to those standards of excellence   because you've never gone to law school or embarked on that.   So they've got to give you leeway in that stuff anyway.   K?   So hey, Rick. Good to see you, man.   Rick,   do you know that,   but but no. Never mind. I'll talk to you about I'll talk about it later, football stuff. Let's get back to Catherine here. Catherine,   I've just thrown a whole bunch of stuff at you,   and I'm sure most of it is almost entirely new to you.  

But if you'll continue to go down that document   past the federal states, and you go down to the very bottom,   you'll find that one sentence disclaimer.   Now above it, they've got a paragraph. I call it fluff.   It's quite interesting. I don't know exactly,   but I'm going to surmise.   And it says if you're approaching   the 18 and you're in Amera North, American   not American Samoa, Mariana Islands,   you can go in front of a judge six months before your eighteenth birthday   or after   and state, and that's the sentence. I so and so   do solemnly swear my intent to be a national and not a citizen of The United States.  

So that   that one sentence applies to everybody,   not just somebody in the Northern Mariana Islands. K? And this is just a prime example   of you don't have to use a whole bunch of legal stuff that you've learned in I'm sui kante and sponte serious and all kinds of other stuff just because you learned it. You wanna use it. You wanna keep this as simple as possible, and that is   the simplest one we've ever found. Right there, I'm showing you. It's from the state department website.   K?  

[01:36:45] Unknown:

Got   it.  

[01:36:49] Unknown:

Thank you. So very important. Thank you, Larry. Very important. Very important.   Come in. Yes, sir, mister Paul. Mister Paul. Comente.  

[01:36:57] Unknown:

Comente. Okay.   If you go to the metrics docs   and you go down to the download section   and you go to the instructions for filing a national affidavit   and you open that, the live document has been up late updated with the following verbiage. Let me see where's the verbiage.   I'm I'm looking for the verbiage. Give me just a second. Hang on, boss. One second. This must be Oh, there we go. This must be this must be one of our illegal migrants. Please continue. There we go. There we go. Okay.   So it still says draft a short and concise cover letter to The US secretary of state, per language below. And below that, it says sent to US departmental   state 2201   C Street, Northwest Washington, DC 20520.  

Attention, US secretary of state. Dear sir or madam, please note the enclosed affidavit of citizenship evidence declaring me as a national   of The United States Of America and not a citizen of The United States   under the scope of the fourteenth amendment to the constitution.   Please adjust your actions and your agents' actions accordingly   and place these informations   firmly and permanently in my administrative   file. Hugs and kisses. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.  

[01:38:16] Unknown:

Jose, are you a a illegal migrant or are you a a Russian Jew? I couldn't quite differentiate there.  

[01:38:25] Unknown:

A little bit of both, you know.  

[01:38:28] Unknown:

Ah, and like like your president, Shinebaum. Right? Well, there you go. Thank you, Paul. This is true. This is true.   Boy, they got some big time riots down there.   They had the what'd they have?   Judea Punta   written all over the place. You know what that translates to, Paul?  

[01:38:50] Unknown:

No, sir. No, senor.  

[01:38:53] Unknown:

Just junior year. Well, obviously.   That that translates to Jewish horror.   And that is what they're writing all over the place down there in Mexico   as they're having these riots at her palace in Mexico City. There was a big one Sunday, I think.   Maybe Monday.   No. Sunday, over the weekend. And then there's another big one scheduled Thursday.   And, they got big problems with the these are the common people   rising up against the corruption and the drug cartels.   They're just sick of it. They can't even have, you know, the that they they're not just doing drugs. They're doing everything.   You know, they're doing human trafficking.  

They're doing, prostitution   because, you you you know, you can just sell that over and over and over again.   They're going back at the local level. They've infiltrated,   Mexico's got tremendous natural resources.   I'm gonna be in the future one of the richest countries in the world because of their silver,   deposits. They've also got huge,   oil deposits and, and big lithium deposits and stuff. And they're leaching into all those different industries.   And,   they go into other businesses in town and do an extortion.   And so everybody's prices get rise because they're extorting all the businesses. It's just a mess.  

It's worse than us than us.   So, anyway anyway. Alright. Who else has got something here? We got a few minutes left in the program. There's a male voice I hear.   I sense it might be Samuel.  

[01:40:28] Unknown:

I'd like to correct something. You won't believe it. I hope this is correct. It's an AI, but, you know, here we go.   The income tax under the revenue act of 1862   was not limited to federal employees.   It applied broadly to all US   residents with incomes above certain thresholds.   Specifically, it imposed a 3% tax on incomes over $600   and 5%   on incomes over 10,000   regardless of the source, whether from salaries,   property trade, or other professions.   Section 90 of the act explicitly   taxed   the annual gains, profits,   or income of every person residing in The United States, making it a general tax on citizens,   not just government workers. Wow.  



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You would have saw been DC that people would have been come on the move.   That would have been DC exclusively, wouldn't it? They couldn't feed that over to the states, and we didn't have the separation between the North and the South yet. I don't know. Very interesting. I've never heard that before, Samuel. So I don't know whether it's correct or not. This is after the South has left. They didn't have any opposition  

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to to to stop this crap that the North was up to.  

[01:41:54] Unknown:

Well, if all of them weren't in there, then it wasn't legitimate, wasn't it?  

[01:41:59] Unknown:

So, well, it hasn't been legitimate since is sort of my point. Right? I I they thought legitimacy  

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be damned to throw that crap out the window. Right?  

[01:42:09] Unknown:

Yeah. Constitution?   What's that?   Yeah. I mean Yep. Yep. And it stayed in in in force until 1872   after the war when people finally   the protests were so great. Because imagine this. I mean, people were getting   their   public laundry   published in papers   to show what they paid as income tax.  

[01:42:40] Unknown:

Okay. Well,   they here's the thing. I've never heard this stuff before. I don't know if you have or not, but and this comes from AI, you say?  

[01:42:49] Unknown:

Yeah. Well, there's there's so much that's been buried about Lincoln. The more you dig into this guy, the rottener it gets. You know?  

[01:42:58] Unknown:

Yeah. A lot of people love him. A lot of people hate him. He's controversial   figure in history for sure.  

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What do you expect from a Jew?  

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Well, there's people that say that's true too.   Yeah.   There's all kinds of stuff we don't know. Yes. Okay. I agree.   Go ahead, Gary.  

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I agree with what Samuel is saying. However,   our controlling document is the Buck Act.   If you read the Buck Act, it gives us permission   to   tax   federal and state employees   under the Buck Act if you're in a federal territory.   When you fill out a w four,   you're agreeing that you're a federal employee   unless you put exempt on the w four.   So you're voluntarily   doing it, people.  

[01:43:58] Unknown:

Yeah. The Buck Act was, what, 1947,   right around in there, Gary?  

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Yeah. It was after the bankruptcy.  

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So in the forties.   Yeah.  

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One way to combat state taxes state taxes   is to ask the state taxing authority   when you became a federal employee and, two, what federal territory you are in.   And it should shut them up.  

[01:44:25] Unknown:

There's another approach.   Thank you, sir.   Who else is trying to say something with Gary? I thought there's several. I thought I heard mister Bachman in there. Hey, buddy.  

[01:44:38] Unknown:

Hey. I have a question.   What if you're   selling something through the PX system   of the military?   Is that,   eligible or does that make you liable for income tax?  

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I would think that a direct connection. You mean, like, a company contracting with AAFIS to sell stuff? I would think that would be a direct connection.   But, they're but but they're just paying you for a product. So,   that they're going to resell. So I don't know if there's   I just don't know, Brent.  

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Okay. Thank you. Thanks, man.  

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Thank you.   Boy, I hear there's a lot of chemtrails and stuff over there in your valley lately. I heard some woman call in to InfoWars. Is that right? Are you seeing all that stuff, Brent?  

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I just saw rain clouds and stuff yesterday.   I haven't looked out today.  

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Okay.   So a lot of people leaving that area or not? The what this gal was saying   was that the middle class has been so decimated,   and that's what Vegas was built on, was fleecing the middle class and servicing them. And now a lot of them aren't coming.   Are you seeing stuff like that?  

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Well, they have a Formula one race that's gonna be, I think, Saturday,   and that's geared for the rich and everything.   You know, the tickets are, like,   astronomical.   But,   again, the room rates are gonna go high. That's probably what's doing that now.   Right. I haven't really seen anything   myself.   Yeah. Yeah. Our ridership's down, but that because of  

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probably there's nothing going on in town really right now. Yeah. Well, listen. As you be be conscious of those small things, if you see those things changing, let us know, would you?  

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Oh, well, the days I do work, you know, I'm   right out in the middle of all that stuff.  

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I can imagine.   But, I mean, yeah, not when you're working, but just as a as a person that lives in that area.   Because Vegas is such a barometer in in many senses   because of what I went over earlier and their attachment to the middle class.  

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Yeah. From everything I've read and seen on it, Roger, they've they've eliminated the middle class, and they're after the whales.   And everything is so expensive, it's not the deal it used to be. So the   the middle class drop off is   is in the 10 to 20%.  

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I'm sure. You know what fascinates me, Brent? Well, you got anything to say on that sphere?  

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It's expensive   to go into,   you know, for.   Yeah. You know, the tickets are ungodly   and,   you know, and traffic's always messed up when they have it open.  

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Yeah. Okay. Well, I have a guy here I knew that took his girlfriend.   Yeah. My friend here a couple of years ago, took his girlfriend up to The US and went out to Grand Canyon and stuff. They stopped in Vegas   and he was staying at a hotel that's like adjacent to the Spear   And they got up and opened the blinds and they had a big eyeball on there. There's big eyeballs looking in his hotel room.   Just kind of freaky. I can tell in the audience to know what I'm talking about.   Anyway. Okay, Brent. Well, always good to hear from you, man. Keep it up. Keep up that good work out there.   And,   you see anything, let us know. There's Sherry's got a question for you, Brinske.  

Yeah. What you got, Sherry?  

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Selling to, the p x,   how do they report that? Through a w two or a 10 99?  

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I don't know.  

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Why so it's the question he was asking.   They'd just be a fan of of mine's ask them.  

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A a friend of mine's going to talk to him. He's a retiree,   and,   you know, we'll   have the brass tacks on that pretty soon   as to what they consider or what.  

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Uh-huh. What he's talking about is an organization called AAFES,   arm arm, a f f e s, arm the exchange services.   And they're the ones that handle all the b x's not b x's and p x's, but,   there's all kinds of like, a a Walmart store on every base, and that's what Brent's referring to.   Armed Forces Exchange Service, I believe it stands for. Brent?   Thank you, sir.   Who else has got something here this morning? We got a few minutes left, not many.   Any any   foot dragging new new listeners out there that finally got the courage up to ask a question?  

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Roger?  

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Well, you're not bad. You're Julie the Wallflower.  

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I'm off subject here, but I just wanted to say, boy, did Ecuador   serve the UFC,   well on Saturday night. Your   Ecuadorian,   Michael Morales, 17 and zero, knocked the dude out in the first round in under three and a half minutes. It was amazing.  

[01:50:17] Unknown:

Oh, really? Just fight heavyweight fighting? Julie, you watch heavyweight fighting?  

[01:50:22] Unknown:

Oh, yeah. UFC. I I train in UFC. I got a trainer for UFC. Absolutely.   It it was welterweight with welterweight. Okay. So, but I see. How old is that? 17 and now this guy, this guy is gonna win the win the whole entire belt for his division, I think, but incredible.  

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Good. Good. Well, I guess they got Olympics. We got some Olympics coming up. I think the Winter Olympics are coming up first.  

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Anyway, it was at  

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Madison Square Garden, and Trump was expected to show up, and he was a no show. But,   boy, was it packed. Not a seat available   in that whole arena. It was amazing. Cool. Yep. Wow.  

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Okay. He was an Ecuadorian kid. How old? Young young guy? 18, 19?  

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Yeah. He's in his twenties. Michael Morales, you can look him up. He's,   probably got a parade when he came back to Ecuador. I think he's still in the country here and and in The States right now training now.   But incredible.  

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Oh, yeah. I thought you were referring to the election. They had some sort of an election here Sunday. I still hadn't figured out. Been able to ask what it was all about because it's not time for presidential stuff.   But, anyway, I know my landlady said they came back from the beach   early to they here, you have to vote.   Right. The men and the women vote in different facilities,   sexist,   and you have to vote if you're a citizen. If you don't, they can levy   penalties on you.  

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Wow.  

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Wow. Yep. Hey, Roger. I got a question for Julie.   Okay, Julie. Were there any Muslims at that fight?   Well, were there any what days? Were there any Muslims at that fight at Madison Square Garden? I'm sure there were.  

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Really?   Oh, yeah. They got Muslims fighting in the UFC.  

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No kidding.  

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Yeah.  

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Wow.   Okay. Thank you.  

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Yikes.   Okay. Thank you, Julie, for the sports report.   Rick, what I was gonna tell you is it was reported that Lane Kiffin   and his whole family, including his ex wife,   flew to Baton Rouge yesterday.   We'll see. Don't know any more than that.   Hey, Ross.   Yes. There's somebody who's there.  

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This is Lizana. I I wouldn't get on the wrong side of I wouldn't get on the right side of Julie.   No. No. No. Did you hear what she just said? She told me she for USC.  

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Oh, yeah. Yeah. No. Have you have you seen have you seen her breakdancing?   Have you seen her out breakdancing in the damn parking lot?  

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I saw that.   I mean It  

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Took me a while to figure out what was going on. Oh my gosh. Yes. I know. I know. Well, it's a it's a she's a unusual gal, and we applaud her. K? So who else has got something here? We got a couple of minutes left. Not many. That that was a demonstration  

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of   alcohol effects on specific gravity.   Okay. Gotcha.  

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Now entertain. Was that a female? Was that a female I heard wanna say something? May I ask something?  

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Hey, Roger.   Yeah. Yes. Look at Joan.  

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Where have you been, kid?  

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I I'm here.  

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Okay.  

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And to ask,   what's   what are you a national   of?   And then I have part b that's part a, and then I have part b after you answer that. Thank you. We you're national of the country.  

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You're national of the country.   Uh-huh. United States Of America.  

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Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, you're calling the country The United States Of America?  

[01:54:25] Unknown:

That's the country that you, identify.   There's another little organization within it called the federal government, but that's the federal   country.   You're in the national part of the country as one of the citizens of one of these states.   Okay?  

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Yeah. Yeah.  

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Alright. Well, that doesn't that answer your question?  

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Well, I but yeah.   And and I also wanted to ask, when when people say I'm a national   of The United States Of America,   what what   what's and what what's the definition of America? What's the in that context?  

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Well, you know, in the old black's law dictionary, if you went to The United States,   they would use a supreme court case, and the excerpt would say, well, this term has many meanings.   So which meaning are you imputing into your question?   Is it a member of a group of other nations like the United Nations?   Is it the nation composed of the states? Is the federal government separate? Which one of those is it?   See, there's an there's you're a national citizen.   If if you were in   France   and they said, what country are you from? You say, I'm a I'm I'm an American national.   Well, they wouldn't know to differentiate that, but you would identify yourself   as a national citizen,   not a federal citizen   as opposed to   a federal   citizen, etcetera.  

Got that?  

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Yeah.   Okay. Thank you.  

[01:56:04] Unknown:

You're welcome, dear. How's Costa Rica today?  

[01:56:09] Unknown:

Slightly sunny and   not too hot and pretty nice.  

[01:56:14] Unknown:

Okay. Well, enjoy it.   Enjoy it. Yeah. So, who else is better? Something here at the tail gunner. Dave?  

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Yes, sir. Yes, sir. I'd like to chime in on what, Joan was asking about. So the way I see it and the way our assembly sees it is that The United States Of America is made up   of 50   equal nation   states.   Those states are countries.   So each country in America makes up The United States Of America. That's why you can't just say The United States. That that's an oxymoron.   That only exists as a corporation in Washington, DC.   That's the equivocation. They knew America.  

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That's the equivocation.   They knew they were gonna trick you on that. Go ahead. Absolutely.  

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Absolutely.   So remember, whatever   nation state you live in   and you call home,   that's that's   the country that you're from or that you are, you know, you you,   what's the word I wanna say?   We don't reside there. We live there.   These are our I was I live where I was born   in Michigan, and that's my country, the country that I hail from. That happens to be inside of The United States Of America.   It may sound complicated, but it really isn't.   I know your parents were Canadian. Right? Even though your parents were Canadian. Right? That's right. I'm first born American, and I I don't, you know, I don't claim to be a Canadian. My parents were Canadians.  

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Well, they just moved birthright citizenship in there a couple of months ago. You may qualify, Dave.  

[01:58:08] Unknown:

Mhmm. My, my parents were Canadian. Hey. If you don't do that, don't have a herd of ostriches. Okay? Go ahead, Paul. Yeah. Right. I hear you. My parent my parents were Canadian. My, mother retained her Canadian citizenship, but but my dad naturalized   so he could work down here.   Uh-huh.  

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See, my mother's my mother was a Canadian citizen, but my dad   joined the arm the American army when he was well, the US army when he was 15, and they caught him caught him, and they made him a US citizen to punish him.   So Okay.  

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Good, Dave. Very good. Not to punish Well, listen to Mars. So Mars is gonna be weird. There's not gonna be any of this act act, outro music. There's no gonna be any Alvin Lee. I might a few bars for you, but we're gonna be on silent running tomorrow.   Paul's gonna set us on silent running, and we're gonna do that, and I'll see y'all tomorrow with no fanfare.   Have a fabulous day.   Ciao.   Oh, I thought they were finished, Dave. Well, look at that. We got one last one last little verse here, a little stanza. Hey. And, we're gonna lay our bodies down. And   again, we'll see you soon, tomorrow or otherwise.  

Thank you.  

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We coulda just trailed out with the music, you know.  

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Yeah. Coulda done that. We coulda.   I just well, I like to do that. Well, I used to I like to talk till the last. It just depends on what phase I'm in here.  

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Paul You used to you used to let the music, the last fifteen seconds of the music take us out before. Well, I should. That's mighty nice tune by those boys acapella over there. Mhmm.  

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Okay. Anybody else have anything for me? Now all the new students wanna come out with questions. We're not on the Paul.  

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Now, Paul,   good good luck and God's blessings tomorrow with your maiden voyage.  

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Yes. Thank you.  

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Yeah. Get that bus down there.   Mhmm. And,   so, Paul, I'll see you   day after tomorrow on your wonderful Thursday.  

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And,  

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you have Well, that's gonna be crazy. Your, your project is successful.  

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That's gonna be,   what's also gonna be crazy tomorrow is all of this stuff that I have to prepare for the trust course because the trust courses are on Wednesdays. It's just a crazy day,   which is another reason for get a head start.   No. Which which is another reason for getting a 9AM head start on the 72 mile trip to go get it. And then what will probably be a 72   mile limping trip to get it back here because,   you know, it'll be the first time it's been run.  

[02:01:06] Unknown:

I'll be taking back roads in old Indian trails for sure. Okay. Well, hopefully, there's no problems. I have got to go and, for several different reasons of which I will not explain.   And I will see you all tomorrow, and I'll see everybody else soon. Thanks. Love you. Ciao. Thank you, Rajesh. Thank you.  

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Thank you.  

[02:01:28] Unknown:

Yeah. I'm gonna try and see if I can remote into   Studio C from over the Internet.   I do have   a remote control, but I have to move the computer outside the firewall to do that. So,   Studio C is hidden behind a brick wall.   If I put it on the outside, then I can remote into it with my phone. We'll just see how it works.   And I'll be busy trying to get the trying to get the bus running   when I get there, so we'll see.   Maybe it'll start right away, and I'll be able to,   I'll manage the show from inside the bus. Hey. The very first episode from studio   b.  



[02:02:19] Unknown:

Paul, what are your plans for the bus?  

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My plans for the bus are to use the,   the rear two thirds for, moving my stuff and the front third of it as a living space,   converting it to an RV.   It'll basically be a   it'll be it basically be like a toy hauler,   camping space in the front and storage space in the back.  

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We'll see how Is it gas or diesel?  

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It is a 2,006   International,   IB   300.   It has a DT466E   diesel   and an Allison six speed automatic.  

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And How old is the fuel?  

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Fuel is not that old. It had fuel stabilizer put in it last last fall.   Oh, good. It'll be alright. That's a good that's a good sign.   Yeah. So   and it has, it has a half a tank of fuel in it,   and that'll be enough to get it from there to here,   hopefully.   Then the first thing I'll have to do is I'll have to take the, transmission control computer out of it and send it off and have it,   have the firmware reflashed because   buses, unless they are specifically licensed for highway trips,   they disable sixth gear.   So it's done in the firmware.  

But once I reflash that, I should be able to,   get another   20 miles an hour out of   it. All kinds of interesting and fun stuff.  

[02:04:06] Unknown:

Do you reflash or do you take it somewhere?  

[02:04:11] Unknown:

You gotta gotta send it off to a guy.   You send the computer   and $300   to a guy, and he re flashes the Allison   control module.   Then you just,   plug it back in and   it works.  

[02:04:30] Unknown:

So is this about the size of a Greyhound bus or a school bus?  

[02:04:34] Unknown:

No. It's a school bus. It's,   I b 300 is a 40 foot long,   six passenger bus with 26 windows.   It's 40 feet long right on the nose.   Has,   air brakes and air ride suspension in the rear.  

[02:05:04] Unknown:

And how did you figure out I know you talked about this in the last are you gonna put your own plate on it, or what are you gonna do there?  

[02:05:12] Unknown:

Right now, it's plated as a commercial vehicle for private use.   And by the time my insurance   renews in January,   it will   be converted to an RV   and will probably be retitled as an RV and insured   as that.   Will be   could be much cheaper   than   progressive commercial insurance, which is what I have on it now.  

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When was the last time it was started?   Cranked up? Last winter.   Last winter. Checking chargers? Last spring.   You gotta charge it?  

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I'm probably gonna have to charge it. That's why I'm bringing two batteries,   three pair of jumper cables, and another vehicle   with an alternator.  

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Alright.  

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Yeah. I've got I've got a   a two watt pair of 25 foot jumper cables that'll go from the battery box to the first battery,   and then that'll be a 750   cranking amp battery.   And then I've got another 12 foot pair   that will go to the second in line battery, which is a 650   cranking amp battery,   and then another set going to the charging vehicle.   One way or another, it's gonna start.  

[02:06:51] Unknown:

Take your gut and your starting fluid?  

[02:06:55] Unknown:

Yeah. Starting fluid in the back of my   back of my, pickup truck, but I've always heard starting fluid is hard, really hard on diesels.   Propane injection works better.  

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Yeah. We used to have to start up our old cats   back in the Robinson days,   logging.   They used a lot of starting fluid.  

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And then the clock is running.  

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Is it out in the woods? There's there's no electricity.  

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Yeah. I know.  

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Does it have a block heater?  

[02:07:34] Unknown:

No.   Supposed to be about 40 degrees to normal.  

[02:07:43] Unknown:

Yeah. Ball?  

[02:07:46] Unknown:

Right. Yeah. Don't hesitate to  

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starting fluid on a diesel   Okay. I've used   the Cummings   diesel ever. It's fine. It won't hurt it.   Slowly don't overdo it.   Give a cup give it a couple squirts in the breather,   and it'll help start   a long  

[02:08:14] Unknown:

One of our neighbors used so much starting fluid, he blew the piston out of the thing.  

[02:08:21] Unknown:

Yeah. That's that's why,   I'm I mean, I can bring starting fluid with me, but I will use it sparingly.  

[02:08:29] Unknown:

Bring a fire extinguisher just in case. You have electrical or a fuel fire or anything,   leak   in the system you don't know about? You know?  

[02:08:45] Unknown:

Well,   if I have a fire,   probably not gonna be where it's   stored, and,   I ain't gonna be able to do much with it. You know, even if it does catch fire and I put the fire out, it's gonna be pretty much dead where it sits.   So at that point, I might as well just let it burn to the damn ground.   That at that point, it's a total loss anyway, because how in the hell am I gonna get a half burned bus off the road?   And where the hell am I gonna put it?  

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Well, the whole point is to stop it from doing any damage that it you know?   Yeah. Right. Get it right away.  

[02:09:29] Unknown:

Well, I suppose.  

[02:09:31] Unknown:

So, Paul, are you are you driving your pickup truck out to get it, and then you're gonna tow your pickup truck then?  

[02:09:38] Unknown:

No. No. It doesn't have a trailer hitch on it. Another thing I have to do is put a put a hitch on the bus.   So I'm getting a ride from my, landlady out there, but she's gotta be back by three in the afternoon so she can,   babysit her grandchild.   So that's we're leaving at 09:00 in the morning, and   we've got six hours to do it. Gotta be back here by three.  

[02:10:09] Unknown:

What time will you arrive at your bus? And she's gonna be with you the whole time? That's good.  

[02:10:14] Unknown:

Yep.   I'll probably be at the bus around ten ish   or 10:30.   Yeah. I should get there about 10:30.  

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Okay.  

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Yep.  

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Yeah. Paul, does that have DEF DEF?  

[02:10:34] Unknown:

No. It does not.   Lucky guy. Ain't nobody got a pissing in a fuel tank of mine.   You know that   that's all death is. Right?   Urea,   urine.   That's all it is.   Yeah. You run low.   Whiz in the tank, it'll get you to the truck stop.  

[02:11:03] Unknown:

I I went to move a vehicle like that some years ago and,   sort of like on a time schedule that you're on. Right?   Wasn't even gonna pop the hood and take a look. I was just gonna start it up, and my friend convinced me that I should pop the hood and just take a general look. Right? What Mhmm. Popped the hood.   And the rats had built   a solid nest   across the entire   area. I mean, if it would've started up, it would've caught on fire.   And,   who knows what else? You know? Wires they chewed. So it took hours just to clean the rat nest out.  

[02:11:44] Unknown:

Oh, we shall see.  

[02:11:47] Unknown:

Well, you said wish you good luck in God's blessings because I know   we picked up another one up, and,   it had a big old April Dodge in it, and we were that thing would scream. It was a, like, a only a 28 foot RV,   and,   it would make it more fuel than it was consuming.  

[02:12:07] Unknown:

Right.  

[02:12:11] Unknown:

Paul, does it have a Cummins engine in it?  

[02:12:14] Unknown:

No. It has an international d T four sixty six.  

[02:12:19] Unknown:

Okay.  

[02:12:21] Unknown:

It's solid motor.  

[02:12:24] Unknown:

Yeah.   So   I guess when you drive it from point a to point b,   just,   let the engine run like they used to do in the old days.   When you go and you get something breakfast or something,   just lock the lock the doors and go in and get the get your breakfast and let the engine run like they used to in the old days. And diesel was really cheap.  

[02:12:49] Unknown:

Yeah. Well, I'm not gonna be stopping.   Not unless I have a problem.   Keep rolling on.   It'll go straight from the space it's in to the space it's gonna be in in the back of my house.  

[02:13:11] Unknown:

And then how long will it be there?  

[02:13:14] Unknown:

Hill Spring.  

[02:13:21] Unknown:

Okay.  

[02:13:25] Unknown:

Yeah. Put battery tender on it   and   do your maintenance or whatever you're doing.   Is it is it a yellow bus, a yellow school bus?  

[02:13:37] Unknown:

Well, it was yellow before it was painted gray.  

[02:13:41] Unknown:

Okay.   But it's might be the name of the phone.  

[02:13:45] Unknown:

It's just primed right now, so   I'll have to whip out my paint gun and shoot a color on it. I just haven't decided what I'm gonna paint it yet. I'm thinking I'm white.  

[02:13:58] Unknown:

Yeah. That might be   that might be good to,   something to reflect the heat.   If you're going down to Georgia  

[02:14:07] Unknown:

Uh-huh.  

[02:14:08] Unknown:

You have you you want something prison bus color?  

[02:14:12] Unknown:

Say it.  

[02:14:13] Unknown:

What? He wants a jail bus.  

[02:14:16] Unknown:

What, Sherry?  

[02:14:19] Unknown:

Is it a white old school bus, a prison transportation   bus?  

[02:14:24] Unknown:

I don't care.  

[02:14:26] Unknown:

Okay.  

[02:14:28] Unknown:

What about blue to protect you from that radiation?  

[02:14:32] Unknown:

I might just put I might just put bars on the dang windows, paint it white, and that way, the cops will leave me alone.  

[02:14:42] Unknown:

Well, they don't put bars on there. They,   do the   the blackout   film.  

[02:14:50] Unknown:

So you Expanded metal.  

[02:14:54] Unknown:

Yeah. Also, sign a number on the top of the bus where the helicopter's contract.  

[02:15:00] Unknown:

Uh-huh. That's  

[02:15:03] Unknown:

what prison buses have is at.  

[02:15:06] Unknown:

DCNY123.  

[02:15:13] Unknown:

I just hope this thing's sitting   on the way back.   That's gonna be your your   if you have a problem, that'll probably be it.   And make sure you got coolant and, hopefully, the that works.  

[02:15:28] Unknown:

Yep.  

[02:15:31] Unknown:

The prison bus I was in didn't need bars because they had you chained in.  

[02:15:39] Unknown:

Yeah. But I think the bars would would   would set the aesthetic that I'm looking for.  

[02:15:46] Unknown:

There you go. There you go.  

[02:15:48] Unknown:

Put a set of chains into.  

[02:15:51] Unknown:

Mhmm.  

[02:15:53] Unknown:

You know, d rings d rings everywhere a seat should be.  

[02:15:59] Unknown:

Hey, Paul.   Behind your bars showing out the windows, can you put cardboard cutouts of of the esteemed establishment   members?   Uh-huh. You know, the people you wanna see locked up.  

[02:16:16] Unknown:

Yeah.  

[02:16:18] Unknown:

Right? Just put the cutouts behind the bars. So as you're trucking down the freeway, like,   everybody will be taking pictures and they'll be like, oh my god. It's happening.  

[02:16:28] Unknown:

Yeah. Well, I really don't wanna draw attention to myself. I just wanna   I just kinda wanna sneak from there to here.   Oh, bummer. You know, it's it's plated and all that,   and it's insured. It won't have any problems that way.   But I haven't had an opportunity to have it inspected   because there's nowhere to inspect it out there.   Do have an appointment to have it inspected   here,   next month. But  

[02:17:02] Unknown:

Congratulations   on your schoolie, Paul.  

[02:17:06] Unknown:

Thank you.  

[02:17:07] Unknown:

I figured I'd You should paint it all rainbows. Rainbows.  

[02:17:10] Unknown:

No. I don't No. No. No. No. No. I'm not gonna make a I'm not gonna make a Partridge family bus. I'm sorry. Come on now. Come on. Come on. I love it. I love it.  

[02:17:22] Unknown:

We've all dreamed of schoolies. Congratulations. You're gonna be living in it for a while?  

[02:17:28] Unknown:

No. I'm spending a winter in this apartment.   I will be able   to live in it if   necessary,   but it's mostly just, all my stuff without having to move to rent a moving   truck.  

[02:17:45] Unknown:

Oh.  

[02:17:46] Unknown:

Yeah. You see, the deal with renting a moving truck is you gotta rent the truck,   and they give you so much time to get from point a to point b and then return the truck.   Well,   they do give you, like, a couple of extra days, like, for loading and unloading,   but this is just me loading the thing all by myself   and then driving myself   with a neurotic cat that hates traveling, so I'm gonna have to go in short bursts.   And then I'm gonna have to unload it myself when I get there.  

[02:18:20] Unknown:

Aw.  

[02:18:21] Unknown:

So,   to rent a moving truck   would cost me,   at the time   at the time that,   that I was pricing them and reserving on,   was between 2 and $300   more than it cost me to buy this bus   and   Yes.   An extra $125   a day for additional   time for either loading or unloading.  

[02:18:58] Unknown:

Yeah. I went with U Haul. I went with U Haul and took two twenty foot loads,   and, it was it went very well. I think if I'm not mistaken, because it's been a while, I think it was, like, $800   each time.   So it went very well. I I really like U Haul. I thought they were very good company.  

[02:19:20] Unknown:

Yeah. Well, what I'm gonna be able to do is because my moving truck is in my backyard,   I'm gonna be able to load   it myself   and,   arrange and secure everything   as needed.   And then when it's time to go, just grab the cat, her cage,   and get in it and go.   And then I have all the time in the world to download it.  

[02:19:48] Unknown:

So Well, make make sure while you're waiting over the winter, you take your cat out to the bus while you're working on it and and, you know, get it hanging out in there with you so she becomes comfortable   with the smell, with, you know, knowing it.  

[02:20:04] Unknown:

Yeah. I think it's gonna be a little cold for her because I don't have anything. It's got a metal floor.  

[02:20:10] Unknown:

You don't have to leave her out here. You just take her out there while you're out there. Give her a blanket, your your your sweatshirt, whatever   so she can walk around and smell it, and and then you take her back in the house.   And you just do it lots of times so she becomes   comfortable.  

[02:20:28] Unknown:

Well, I've There are drugs with the catnip.  

[02:20:30] Unknown:

By the way, Paul, there are drugs and,   supplements for knocking a cat out while traveling. My daughter gave me some. If you're interested when it happens,   let me know, and I'll give you the name of it.  

[02:20:45] Unknown:

Lots of cat yet too.  

[02:20:47] Unknown:

Yeah. My cat hates traveling, and she gets,   upset tummy like no tomorrow. And   so it's like I would have to feed her literally hours before we leave   and then,   give her time for her stomach to settle down   before I feed her again   after we get someplace for the day   or for the night. Mine's a howler.  

[02:21:14] Unknown:

Mine's a howler. She's miserable.  

[02:21:16] Unknown:

Can't stand it.   Mine howls like crazy, and   I know I   I have identified   the exact   howl that my cat gives   right before she's ready to heave.   Oop. I   I know it. I understand the cat language   that   says, dude, get me out of here before I hurl.   And it's not a minute later, and that's exactly what she's doing.  

[02:21:48] Unknown:

Oh.  

[02:21:51] Unknown:

Yeah. Poor baby.   She hates travel.   But she does it better,   she does it better when she's sitting on my lap.   Jeez. She manages that better.  

[02:22:05] Unknown:

Your smell,   your breathing, your your calm energy.  

[02:22:10] Unknown:

Yeah.  

[02:22:11] Unknown:

Right? That's why that's why I said take her out there periodically   over the winter   while you're out there working on it so she gets comfortable with the environment with you being there, your smell, the smell of the vehicle.   So it's not as   dramatic when you go to make the move.  

[02:22:29] Unknown:

Right. But like I said, it's got a it's got a metal floor. It doesn't have anything on the floor. That's gonna be really, really cold.   So she's gonna be stuck, like, on a blanket or or,   like a rug or something just so she doesn't freeze her feet.   I don't think she's gonna enjoy it much.  

[02:22:50] Unknown:

You know, twenty, thirty feet. 40 foot runner and throw it down there down there.  

[02:23:00] Unknown:

Oh, maybe.   Yeah. As long as it doesn't cover the yellow line,   you know,   because you gotta stay behind the yellow line.  

[02:23:15] Unknown:

You could train her to stay behind the yellow line.  

[02:23:20] Unknown:

Yeah. I don't think so.  

[02:23:22] Unknown:

Do you I wanted to ask you about your the trust class.   I missed when you were,   introducing it, and you said you're putting it into a private room. So what is it entailed in getting into this trust class?  

[02:23:38] Unknown:

All you gotta do is go to commonlawyer.com,   go to the donate button,   send them $30,   and then send a follow-up email   to [email protected]   telling them   that telling them your name, your email address,   and that the $30 contribution you just made   was for the Radio Ranch trust class.   And then   Francine will add your name to a spreadsheet that she sends to me on a weekly basis,   and then   you get put on the blast email   with all of the links to the,   the links to the room that it's held in, free conference call room that it's held in,   and the links so you can access the course materials independently   if you want to   forge ahead or get caught up because you   had because you joined  

[02:24:39] Unknown:

the or slate. Slate. Slate. Got it. So  

[02:24:46] Unknown:

long as,   I mean, Francine actually sent me an updated list today,   and we added one more person.   So  

[02:25:02] Unknown:

Okay. I won't be able to do that till this evening, so  

[02:25:05] Unknown:

I'll probably miss tomorrow. But Well, like, tomorrow's gonna be weird. Tomorrow's gonna be weird anyway because I have, like, a full day,   and I've got a lot of stuff that I have to do today to prepare.   So today is a full day, tomorrow is a full day, and Thursday is a full day with Paul English live and stuff. So   this is gonna be really, really busy three days.  

[02:25:30] Unknown:

Alright.   No problem. Georgia.   I Yep. Forward to binge watching.  

[02:25:40] Unknown:

Oh, yeah. You'll be able to binge watch the courses.  

[02:25:43] Unknown:

Okay.  

[02:25:45] Unknown:

Yeah.  

[02:25:47] Unknown:

Yeah. I heard you say that the other day.  

[02:25:49] Unknown:

There's 12 episodes,   12 lessons.  

[02:25:53] Unknown:

Okay.  

[02:25:54] Unknown:

And the reading assignments aren't that bad.   I think I'm gonna send I think I'm gonna send the,   the the welcome and participant emails   in two batches because   I don't think everybody got theirs. I think Google,   I I think people's,   male clients saw multiple recipients and thought they were spam.  

[02:26:27] Unknown:

So Oh, okay. Yeah.  

[02:26:30] Unknown:

So I'm I'm gonna have to probably bust that up into two or three emails   and then   go that way.   We'll see. Okay. Okay.  

[02:26:46] Unknown:

Thank you.  

[02:26:48] Unknown:

You're welcome.   Anyway,   speaking of which, I think I'm gonna take the, streams down   and just,   go on with,   today's activities.   Thanks for joining us for the Tuesday edition,   11/18/2025   of the Radio Ranch with Roger Sales. Catch us back here tomorrow, 11AM to 1PM eastern, if not a little longer.   I might be able to remote into the system and kick the show off. We'll see. Just, we don't stand on formality, so don't expect much, and you won't be disappointed.   I'm Paul from Global Voice Network. Thank you so much for being with us. I can't wait to see you right back here again   for the Radio Ranch with Roger Sales. Bye for now. Have a great day.  

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[02:28:17] Unknown:

Bye bye, boys. Have fun storming the castle.