On today’s live Radio Ranch roundtable, we reacted to the November 5 election fallout and what it may mean for freedom-minded people at the local and state level. We dug into migration trends out of New York, county and state realignments (from Oregon-to-Idaho ideas to Canada’s western provinces chatter), and how to stay principled and prepared regardless of which way the political winds blow. We also shared listener updates on air travel disruptions and a developing cargo-plane crash story, and compared notes on practical, everyday readiness. Most of the show focused on community Q&A: welcoming new listeners, walking through the national status pathway, passports for adults and minors, handling IRS/state refund delays, and the importance of affidavits and clean processes. We talked relocation options (Ecuador, Paraguay, Uruguay, El Salvador, Costa Rica, the Philippines) and trade‑offs like distance, language, cost, and residency. We closed with tips for sharing the message responsibly, building credible outreach, and where to catch future live shows and after‑show conversations.
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Yeah, Paul. It's, it's not often we get to start off the show like this. Remember, remember the November 5. It's too bad I didn't on a Thursday so you folks could, kick that one around. Good morning, Wednesday, November 5. Roger Sales and the Radio Ranch here, and, we're here to see if we can find people that wanna be free. So, if you are looking to be free, you found the right spot. Put your seat belt on and sit tight. Mister Paul, who we got joining us today?
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Hey, Raj? Yeah. We'd like to come on forward. We'd love to change your life. Hey, Paul. Well, I guess the big, alright. First of all, let's just do this. If there are any new people that are looking to relocate because of yesterday's elections or whatever, that we're here for, you. And, we get up every day and gather here, in in hopes, really, I think that we get new students, because you are the lifeblood of what we all do. You're when you come forward and start learning and moving forward, you strengthen all of us. All of us wanna help you should you have any problems. I think we've simplified it enough. There's I I mean, there's some things that are complex, but they're not too hard to understand by any means. And, so that's what we are. So we're here for you. If you do have a question or comment, we had a new guy yesterday, RJ, I believe.
And, we've had several new folks lately. It's just fantastic. So, should you want to get a question answered or simply introduce yourself, and say hi to the family here because that's what we are, we'd love to meet you. Otherwise, we're gonna talk about current events, and, political things and whatever else anybody wants to talk about, really, as long as it's not traffic tickets in court. Yeah. Just because there's no there's so little consistency there. Otherwise, drive safely, drive under the speed limit. You wanna be a national and free that brings on personal responsibility, and that applies to that area.
So, anyway, I don't think we've got any new folks, do we? If you do, a star six and high or otherwise, I'm gonna give you a shot, and we're gonna move on to talk about how many people are leaving New York. Okay. Doesn't seem to be any newbies out there. Let's let's give him a chance to speak up. You know, he Well, I'm kinda dilly dallying. Well, I'm dilly dallying around here waiting for him to do that.
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Well, they try you know, they but you're talking, Rog.
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Well, they well, I'm giving them a pause. I'm giving them a pause, Paul. And, you know, so I you you could have dead air here. Most of the days, we don't have new people, really. But, we roll through stages, you know, around here. If we if I get an interview request or something, we hit a new person, and we'll get that whole bunch like we got with Todd, who we still hadn't heard from. Mary in that group. So anyway anyway If you're wanting to say hi, please do. Please do. Cheek up, star six. No. No. They they probably nobody knew today. They're still crying in the corner because of the elections yesterday. I didn't realize that it ran, went across so many states yesterday.
There was a bunch of states, that Texas being won. I think California was one, had this off year election deal. Pretty interesting. Mondavi, I believe that's his name. Right? The the Muslim, he did get elected in New York City, together. Now an interesting thing, of course, I was watching Brianna this morning, and, Brianna is very lovely to watch. I mean, that's a nice thing to wake up into the morning is a lovely lady like her, so professional and proficient at her job. And she's a New Yorker, grew up, a Mormon, raised on Long Island, I guess. And she had left a couple years ago when it started getting real funky.
And originally, she went down to Boynton Beach, South Florida. Stayed there for a couple years now. She's out in Texas. But she said something in relation to this phenomena of people leaving. They're projected to be 700,000 people leave or something. I've heard, Paul. I don't know how accurate that is. Excuse me. Anyway, when she first moved to Boynton Beach five, six years ago, maybe something like that something like that, her apartment was one bedroom, a proficiency apartment was $1,500 a month. Then it went up to $2,500 a month as the Florida onslaught continued.
And she checked, and they're 3,000, and they're probably gonna get higher now. So if you're leaving New York and want to go to South Florida, I hope you're well funded.
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Yeah. You better leave quick. And But, I mean, that's that matter. Chicken feed. That's chicken feed compared to rents in New York because you can get Well 600 square feet for $3,000 a month in New York City.
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Mhmm. Well Well, maybe there's comfortability there. I had not thought about that, but maybe so maybe so. For us poor layman, it seems like an awful lot to live down there in Hurricane Alley. But, regardless and we had, we had some just very interesting things this morning of After Effects, Texas. Texas. Let's see if I can remember this. Texas voted voted that illegals have to be citizens of The United States to participate. But they didn't vote a law that said that it made them to required to present an ID. There was an already existing law that said you need to have a ID, but if you don't have an ID, you can come in with a utility bill or a couple other things.
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Residents.
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Yeah. I it's just the whole thing is so wacky, man. We talked about voting and participating this week, and, I still feel that, you know, locally, it may be something that our people wanna participate in. I'm not gonna tell you to do anything. I didn't tell you to file the paperwork. Okay? I want you to make those decisions, but it would seem that since that saying has been I remember since I got into this, I wasn't all that aware of politics. I was interested, but not aware. Certainly not to the participatory, level, but all politics is local.
Okay? Comment. Who oh, boy. Joe, is that yes. You messing with the star six. Hey, Joe. I don't think they had an election in Oklahoma, did they?
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No. But just quick comment to show you how much of an idiot Abbott is in Texas. He made the comment that he was gonna put now think about it too on this. He's gonna put a 100% tariff on anyone that emigrates out the New York into Texas.
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Yikes. He's gonna tariff the states.
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Think about that. How can you cut tariff?
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Stupid. I don't well, I don't know. Abbott's done some real stupid things. He parades around as a How about that? Conservative, and he's not too conservative from what I can tell. He's always got these slippery deals on the back end of everything. He the one thing I didn't like I didn't like Do what, Joe? Do what, Joe? He can't be a member of the World Economic Forum and be a good guy. Well yeah. And and he's got the boycott on anybody, you know, the fine on anybody that boycotts Israel or says anything about him or no boycott diversity, sanctify BDS, or any of that stuff, or they get some kind of an administrative punishment.
I thought he was a snake for a long time. I didn't even know he was a member of the WEF, but that figures that figures. It'll be interesting to see if Texas toes the line on replacing the AG that's so good so good, whose name I can't think of right at the moment. It's running for senator. He's gonna run against the Bush senator. Ken Patton. Ken Patton, who's the best AG in the country. He's gonna step up and run against the Bush senate guy, Cortland, or something like that. But hopefully, we'll replace him with a good one. So we'll see. I remember him saying when he beat Doc Cornyn.
Yeah. Yeah. Cornyn is the guy that's in there now. It's real shaky. I remember him saying when he won that, they were trying to impeach him, and he won. And he was being interviewed by somebody. He said, well, I got 700 attorneys on staff. Woo. That's a that's a battery of lawyers coming after you. Okay? So, anyway, hopefully, that unless see, I don't know that I heard of Virginia. We got any of our Virginia folks. Julie on this morning with the one the Sheinberg, the gal that she went. Hi.
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Hi. Oh, yeah. We got, we got I already knew it rigged. We got Abigail Abigail Stanberger, ex CIA, sponsored by Barack Obama, Barack Obama, Pete Butt Plug, ActBlue, so Soros's organization, although they say it's not his, yes, it is. He donates through them. LinkedIn cofounder Reid Hoffman, Black Entertainment Television, Sports Betting Alliance and others. And then you got the new Indian born, you know, Ghazala Hashmi, who's the Lieutenant Governor, sponsored mostly by Planned Parenthood who loves organ harvesting and Ray Cousins who's into the LGBTQRSTUVW exit YCRAFT.
And then, you know, it's, again, horrible, horrible news, but that election was totally rigged.
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Wow. Well, I always heard Virginia was for lovers.
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Not for those types.
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How ugly. Boy, Virginia went south right down the tube, didn't it?
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Yep. So you got the CIA The whole world is. The whole world is. Look at the states. Look what they're doing. They're rigging it for the rigging it for the new world order.
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Unbelievable. Well,
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kind of speechless. Welcome. You too. Border. We are it's great that yesterday. We already have communism.
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Might not be as bad as China yet, but we already have communism here. And it's coming here for a long time. Come on. They've been there for a long time. They've had the 10 blanks of communist manifesto inter instituted there for decades. It's nothing new.
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Yeah. I sent, I sent Sam UL and I text, and I wanted to let you know that 20 I sent them yesterday. 20 United States states have signed a treaty to arrest and reeducate citizens who criticize Israel.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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And Netanyahu on that cup has faced the cover of that article.
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20, Paul. Which states?
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I don't know that they I don't have that list in front of me. I don't have that list already, but I can have it for
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you by hand the call. Your home state's probably one of them, big boy. Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. Wisconsin, Illinois, Oregon, Washington, California, possibly Arizona, New York. Mexico. I knew I would without a doubt, I was working my way east. But, the the usual culprits, you know? Yep. And it may be those in the playoffs. Well, listen. The logical thing for all this may be that the country splits up. The problem is you give them their blue states, and they're so inept that the things will end up like South Africa. And then they're gonna come wanna invade your state that you've built up properly, runs efficiently, and everybody's pretty happy. And that's the problem is they want they want you to be unhappy.
Yes.
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You you wanna know who, it promote who, spawned who promoted this list and who put the whole thing out? Our buddy on the People's Voice, Sean, who's always on the Alex Jones show. Who? I don't I don't know who that is. People's voice. I can't remember his last name. Somebody's gotta help me out here. I I just I still don't recognize it on there. The People's Voice. They don't remember me. I'll get his last name. Yeah. I'll get his last name. He's he owns the the broadcasting group called the People's Voice. Okay. That's Lisa.
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Yeah. That I know of. Anyway, so while Julie is looking for that, let's see if we can go on. Do anybody in the audience got anything that tickled or prickled them particularly yesterday you'd like to bring forward or something you gotta burr under your saddle about something else?
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I don't know. I I'm thinking that Upstate New York has been talking about, separating themselves from, New York City for a long time, and now there's I can believe it. No better time to, no better time for, for count for counties to band together and form a new state. You know, let New York City,
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you know Yeah. Well, we've had those initiatives. We had that fella call in the other day from Oregon. It's in that area on the Eastern Part of Oregon that wants to go up and join Idaho. So, yeah, those are those little movements, and the California wants to split up and have real California and give the rest to Gavin Newsom. So, pretty interesting, man. We move forward. We'll see what the repercussions of this are.
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Has has anyone heard any more, progress or any more information on the western provinces of Canada that are saying that they wanna be the fifty first through fifty fourth United States? The all the West all the West of Canada is just completely Well They're completely done with the liberal, Central And Eastern Canada, and they want no more of it. Well, I imagine The US.
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Now is that from Alberta West all the way over through BC? I'm forget Yeah. I remember Saskatchewan is in there or to the East or whatever. I don't either. I just remember that it's the fourth
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it's the four western most provinces of Canada.
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Well, you want all those Chinese that have moved up there to Vancouver and totally screwed up their local economy? I don't know if they want BC. It's beautiful. Okay? But I with that, they've been invaded. I certainly know that the Alberta folks would be a good addition for us.
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Right. Well, that's where most of the the material wealth is of Canada. I mean, the shale oil reserves, you know, all that stuff up there. I mean Correct. The Western provinces have been funding the entire I mean, it's like The United States, like the South versus the North again, but only it's East versus West now because the West has been funding the country for all intents and purposes since the beginning. And I don't know what the hell is gonna happen to the East if the West does join The US. I have no idea.
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So Well, they do have to rely on, maple syrup, I guess.
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I have family that lives in, British Columbia. Uncles and cousins and stuff. Well, not uncles anymore. I think they've they've, passed on, but I've got cousins and stuff in Vancouver. And my grandma on my mother's side lived in Penticton, British Columbia. Beautiful house. Little itty bitty thing. And I've got a lot of relatives on the West Coast Of Canada. A lot. Well, BC From where did they go? From province.
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Yeah. Well, I'm at Vancouver, I guess, in San Francisco, rival for the most beautiful cities in the hemisphere, really. But but the Chinese, as you know, have just gone over there in hoards. They've driven the real estate market. It's totally bizonkers, haven't they, Tom? Tom, when they get
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And if you're gonna if you're gonna try to bring Canada in, gotta wait until, the the Eastern Side Of Oregon secedes to Utah because they're so disgusted with it.
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Well, that'd make a big old state, wouldn't it? Yeah, buddy. How are you doing this morning? Yeah. Well, it's very, very
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go ahead. Just a moment. Start hearing the, I'm waiting to hear the call to prayer, you know, speaker soon. You know, the way the, way that the they are just expanding like rats. But I have friends in New York who just told me this morning that if they're they're thinking of moving the hell out now because of Mondani and, you know, are they gonna when when is he gonna implement Sharia law? That's what I'm waiting for. Then these people are gonna realize. Now they're chanting DSA instead of USA. Pretty sad. Democrat socialist America. Yep. Yep. Pretty pretty sad time. Really screwed up.
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They got one running in or they got one running in Atlanta of all places also. I don't think it was Oh, they're all over the place. Next year. They're really trying to take over politically.
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And then they make the attorney general of Virginia the guy that threatened to kill a senator. Oh, you know, this I almost think that this shutdown may have backfired on the Republicans, you know, trying to prove that it wasn't it wasn't the Republicans that caused the shutdown. It was the Democrats, but I think it's blew up in their face after the elections last night.
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Well, I think Schumer and them are ready to after the elections to open the thing back up, but we'll see. It just I heard that this morning laying in bed. There was a very good guy in the second hour after the bottom of the hour, the first segment, about fifteen minutes, one of your, Texas legislators was on with Brianna this morning. And, boy, he's really sharp. And and he was the one that was picking apart some of these things I was reflecting earlier about the non you know, you have you have to have, be a citizen of The United States to vote. But if they ask you and you don't have an ID, you got other things you can fall back on. So all this kind of screwy stuff, talking bad about Abbott and some of those things, you may wanna go back and listen that fifteen minutes. He's a real good, good, representative, I would say.
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Yeah. Well, they're, they're building a huge, Muslim community outside of Plano. In Plano. Yes. They actually they're, yeah, they're actually built naming the streets in Arabic. After yeah.
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After, you know, after what? You know?
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They're naming the streets after off the top of my head. I can't say it. Yeah. After Arab
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Arab conquerors. Arab war heroes. They see their name in the streets after.
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I after the nine eleven hijackers.
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Boy, I can tell you something else. Brianna had a guy from the Blaze on this morning, and they're really digging deeper in, coming up with a lot of new information on Jan six. That's never been brought out before. He went over a bunch of it here this morning and,
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they have have gone through the seized Trump's phone and his phone records.
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Back then, I guess. Anyway Yeah. In 2020. Yeah. He was coming back, with they've looked at film that nobody's seen before and stuff. And what they've got is they don't call they call them non lethal weapons. What what is that? Rubber bullets and beanbags or stuff like that? And it's not and they don't well, they don't even call it a rifle. They call it a launcher that launches these things. And what they have found is all these guys that are trainers for nonlethal weapons were the ones that were up there shooting the lethal weapons. And they know and tell in their in their training that they're not to be aimed at heads, throats, eyes, gonads, etcetera.
And, and the the in the training, they go, unless you wanna start a war. And that's exactly what they were doing. They caught them on film gathering before anything else at 06:30 in the morning, packing their backpacks up with all these implements and got them, firing at people with them, these trainers. It was a very interesting segment over there the first part of, the second hour with Brianna. And a lot of this stuff, he had a whole bunch more you just didn't have time to get to. So, many of these things are starting to come out. I guess you can see now why they were so fanatical about not getting Trump elected.
Just the chance that some of this stuff's coming out and, man, it's starting to come out. You know, they got indictments flying all over everywhere. They got these researchers like this and, even the the pipe bomber that was such a big mystery, and all that stuff. Some of that type of stuff's coming forward, man.
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So Yep.
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Yep. God bless them. You know? At least we're getting somewhere. Okay? Even though there's all kinds of backfill like the elections and some of the results.
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But, yeah, they pretty well controlled. Plane that crashed?
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I did not. What about it? Shit. Shit.
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And it's in Saint Louis. It just it crashed on takeoff. Looks like, from the from the picture, you can see, it looks like it it lost an engine on takeoff, which is the worst time you could ever have an engine failure, and it just couldn't get it just couldn't,
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get out to
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hit a hit a building hit a building and then just major, major fireball. I mean, the thing is fully loaded with fuel, and it was just it just looked like a bomb went off. And, Well, I haven't seen that yet. Video footage of it. Yeah. What's it then? I hope you didn't hear that. Morning? Yes.
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Did it happen this morning? Yeah.
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Yeah. This early this morning.
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Well, speaking of aeronautics and stuff, they may have to start closing down airports today. There may be some total flight, especially Newark, and I I can't remember some of the other ones. Well, it's because they're having failures. A lot of stuff, there's not people to come fix the failures, and and it's just running into, potentially a lot of big problems. They're talking about totally closing them. Whether they will or not, whether Schumer will come to the table today or not, we'll just have to wait and see.
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Yeah. Yep. It's all going to hell in a hand basket, and it's actually on an electric hand basket.
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It is. It's just a whole bunch of stuff. That it's a hell of a time to be alive, Tom. We're racing towards something. And, it's Yeah. It's racing towards something. Alright. It it was almost like physics that, you know, first, classical physics formula, immovable object and an irresistible force.
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I'm hoping my, hoping my truck driver friend Jay is, tuned in and listening this morning while he's driving. And, I hope you are, mate. Are, AJ.
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Yeah. So if you're listening, you know, welcome. Absorb it. If you got questions, you can either ask directly, although I'd rather you keep your eyes and attention on the road, or you can have Tom ask, any of that kind of stuff. So, it doesn't have do we have a real big go down. Do we have a big audience today? Is everybody mourning over the election, or what's what's going on? 46.
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I think it was 46 when I logged on. That's about that's about you. And that's just yeah. Well, sometimes it's fifty and sixty.
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Yeah? Yeah. We're
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we used to have we have time to get close. Doesn't include all the people that are just listening, not logged in to the Right. They're listening over a traditional or the
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the broadcast band widths. Yeah. Yep. It's 60 We're up to 53. Oh, alright. Okay. Well, cool. Love you guys. Glad you're with us. Alright. I'll bow out and listen. Well 53. If nobody else wants to talk, you can come back and we'll yak about something. Do what Paul now that you're trying to tell us? 63?
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53 in free conference call. And, don't have any views, reflected in rumble yet. At least that's on k. On my page. Let me refresh the page. It'll give me new numbers.
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So, this, 10. All these Indian drivers and Sikh drivers of 18 wheelers from having wrecks seems to be coming to the surface and becoming an issue. And that that that's really good. I just can't imagine being in The US and what life must be like up there, these days. Certainly nothing that I would remember. Yeah. So there's Larry right there speaking of truck drivers. Hey, Larry.
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Hey. Good morning. So that plane that went down is a u it it was a UPS plane filled with 20,000 packages, 38,000 gallons of fuel, and it it it went down after it reached a 175 feet, and there's already nine fatalities being reported.
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Sorry to hear that. Wow. Yes. It was a thing that was
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It was fueled to go to Hawaii.
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Oh. Where'd it go down in California? Saint Louis. Louisiana, Kentucky. Oh. Kentucky. Wow.
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That's a long trip. Yikes.
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Sure is. Yikes. Well, I'm so sorry to hear that fatalities and all and, part of, did the did the engine just stop on takeoff, Paul? Did they you said they lost an engine. One of them didn't, like, fall off. They it just went dark. Is that what happened?
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It was a full power, Roger. He was on takeoff. He got a 175 feet into the air, so they say. But it was a max tower takeoff with that kind of a fuel load stuff.
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Wow. From the video from the pictures, it looked like the engine was, on fire. I mean, you know, I've seen it just looked like it was crapping itself. I mean, I've seen engines get you get one little piece of something in a fan blade engine and it will just for better term crap itself. And this one piece hits another, and that breaks, and then that breaks, and then it just you just the whole engine will just come out the tailpipe. And I've seen that in military jets, and, boy, what a mess.
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Oh, it's testing the bird. As they unravel it. Yeah. Bird will do it too. You know what they do here? Yeah. It depends. You know, we're up at we're up at 8,000 feet here. The airport's about 8,000. And when the jets are coming in to keep the birds away, they release raptors. You know, bird bird birds of prey, and the birds of prey drive the birds out out of the way for the jets. But you can look up and see if there's a jet landing by seeing if the bird if the raptors are up there. So you know what I'm talking about raptors, eagles, hawks, etcetera. Right? Man, do I do we am I is somebody there?
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Do we go down there? I was I'm I'm just getting the the total on Rumble. We've got 12 people on Rumble. John's over there. He just he just said hi. Because Sarah wave.
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John, would you please come No. It's it's not John Casarab. It's another John. Oh, okay. Hey, John. Well, yes, ma'am. Of course.
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Hello, miss. I
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that the the number of that UPS plane that went down was the same amount of victims that they declared, for 09/11.
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Yeah. You were clipping a little bit. You said the same fatalities are the same as 911?
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Yes. Number of the plane, 2976.
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Oh. Oh. 29.
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Isn't that a coincidence?
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God. God. You couldn't you couldn't add a better character into this little plot than Dick Cheney demise yesterday, could you?
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Right? Well, it was all a tribute. Yeah. Everything was around 09:11. It was all basically and who knows when he really died, but, yeah, they they'll use the numbers and yep. Mohammed Ali Airport.
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Yikes. Yikes. I can't imagine living in The States these days, folks. I mean, really. Thank you, Muse. Kind of a strange day. I was hoping Mark might be with us today, but, obviously, parents took a little higher priority, which is fine. Alright. Sure do, babe. Well, there he is right there. Hey, Mark.
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Yeah. It just popped on. I won't be able to stay on very long, but, I just shared a really important video I would really strongly recommend everybody watch. It was Harrison Smith from last night on the war room on Infowars. Yeah. And I tell you what, it was a really eye opening, what I want to call it, rant or dialogue that he had going. And just what I they're just really showing how the Trump administration and the Republicans are are dropping the ball politically. And so, you know, especially after last night's, elections, you know it's pretty ugly and if if they don't stop the this when I say democrats I'm not talking about the voters I'm talking about the party but this democrat party is just ruthless and they're doing everything they can to get back in power.
And I thought Harrison had some really great insight on what could be done. And that if we don't do it because we're just the nice guy with the white hat, then we're gonna we're gonna end up on the short end of the stick. So well anyway I would if you're interested in that kind of of insight and discussion I would highly recommend going over there. The link I have is for the the General Shepherd channel on Rumble and what he does is he records their videos cuts out the commercials except for where they're live and you know haven't plugging a product but they don't have the you know you don't have all the other commercials that that they run on on Infowars.
So that cuts it down to about two and a half hours. The other thing too if you're watching it on your phone you pull up rumble on your phone and got the video up usually somewhere either in the upper corner or bottom corner there's three little dots If you tap on that it'll open up the settings and what I do is I go down and I select the lowest resolution which is usually three sixty and then I speed it up. I normally can go 1.5 and I can understand it still and especially if they're you know a little slower talking so either 1.25 speed or 1.5 speed and you're not having to you know sit there and listen to two and a half hours.
And the other thing I like about it too rumble you can turn off your screen on your phone and it doesn't stop the video from playing so if you're out working or driving or whatever you can still listen to it with the screen off. So it's pretty cool. Now on your desktop there's a little gear icon which is the settings. You click on that in the video frame or just below the video frame and you can do the same thing go in take the resolution down to the lowest and then play it at a faster speed. So your your mileage may vary, but try it out. I would again, I'd strongly recommend listening to, last night's war room with Harrison Smith.
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I yield. Well, let me ask you something, Mark. Don't yield off yet. Here we've got this powerful, powerful weapon, and we can't get people's attention for it. So, how are you gonna get that those people's attention that they've got this thing so conditioned response. And people have been lied to so much about so many different things. They don't know what to believe. And so, but and here we've got absolute proof. It's proven. I can show it to you, explain it to you how it works, and you see the progress we've been making where it should be just the opposite. So I don't think it's the message.
[00:39:48] Unknown:
I think it's Well, Roger, we we're not getting the message out. We're we only have individuals. Well, let me give you example. The the gentleman right here in Oklahoma, he got a nice refund. He's showing family members and co workers a copy of his check, the ones that show any kind of interest, you know, shows them a shows them a copy of his refund which is was seriously a nice refund. Right? And they're like, oh, oh, well.
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You know, they they Oh, well. Wait and see what happens to you.
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Yeah. Right. Right. Exactly. They're they're thinking the other shoe's gonna drop.
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So Mark, don't forget the best form of advertising in the world's mouth to mouth. That's why I encourage I could vent you literally But you don't get numbers that way.
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You know? You really don't it's hard. I mean, if you look at the people who are successful, like, you're talking multi level marketing
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type of Kinda. That that concept, actually. Yes.
[00:40:55] Unknown:
Yeah. Well, if you look at the real big marketers that that are successful in that, they go to centers of influence they find people who have influence over many other people and that's why these podcasters who collaborate with each other they make the little tour between Joe Rogan and Tucker and Glenn Beck, and Alex Jones and so forth those people are in that kind of thought or area of thought they blow up you know they they get more people who've never been exposed to them They they go, oh, that's interesting, and they go out and find them on the Internet, and they start following them.
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So There's a bunch of bunch of folks here, Paul included, all came from Sheryl Westall, exactly what you're talking about. Yeah. I try to get those kind of situations, but my experience from from me, it personally, is that I've sent all these people packets and little piece of information. I've never even gotten a response. I do have. I've sent something to. So I've learned through life, the best way to do this are third party endorsements. It's much better if somebody out there, we're gonna keep growing and growing, not being high profile to the point where somebody knows somebody or has a connection somewhere.
That may be one of them or else, they stumble somebody stumbles, calls into Alex or one of the shows that said you really need to get Roger Sales on. And then a lot of those times, they're receptive to it. So maybe but I all I know to do at this point is just keep putting one foot in front of the other, working on the base that we've got. Even though we're expanding slowly, it's probably much better to have a firm foundation than be a quick shot because you don't have the backing then. So I am a big fan of our firm foundation, and we've got one. I mean, hell, even Jeff Rents told me. He says, man, you got a big audience. Well, I don't notice that. See? I don't know that. But come that comment coming from him was well, see, it was incisive, you know, insightful.
[00:43:10] Unknown:
Well, I know what helps too is That's a dilemma. When you come on just keep when you come on the show and say, hey, you know, Jeff Rents is interested in us. And, you know, if you guys will reach out, here's an email where you can,
[00:43:23] Unknown:
you know, request a guest or recommend a guest. Done that. Yeah. That's how we got it. That's
[00:43:28] Unknown:
that's pretty effective. You know?
[00:43:31] Unknown:
Yes. We tried it with Chase. It didn't work. We could try it again. But, otherwise, just put one foot in front of the other and keep going. That's all I know to do. It's a very powerful weapon. It's proven. Our enemies agree with us. So the skepticism really, although you could understand it, shouldn't really be there, should it? But it is. Just like you're talking with your friend and his family. So all I know is when the information hits the right person, man, it blossoms. Boom. Yeah. Usually. Yep. Now yesterday, you weren't here. Yeah. Just a second, Larry. We had a new gal came on, a new old gal, Annie, who I had been around from the Jacksonville group. She's part of that Jacksonville group. We tapped into a couple of years ago. Larry's Right. On the periphery or part of that. I'm not sure. Anyway, she said, well, my husband and I have decided to move forward. Well, they've been noodling on it for a year or more since I appeared, with Brian down there. Well, they're finally ready to move. So with some people, it just flat takes time.
[00:44:39] Unknown:
Right. Right. Understand. And and and that's a safe approach. Hey. I did that. You know? I I took in all the information for years. I'm like, Tom, where were you? I've been waiting forty years for this.
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I was waiting twenty years, but he was waiting a little bit. You weren't you weren't you weren't ready, grasshopper.
[00:45:00] Unknown:
Well, we didn't have your information as soon as you came along. It didn't take too long to grasp what was going on. And that that you really had legitimate information. You backed everything up with case law and codes and regulations and even definitions.
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And legal canons. Nobody else. Do that. Yeah. Yeah. I've I don't know one person in the country, even Pabon Montyahu or whatever his name is out there getting dinged by the IRS all the time from what I understand.
[00:45:31] Unknown:
Yep. So, yeah, that that guy, he's passionate and he's well meaning, but he doesn't have the full picture. Nope. And he's being promoted constantly because he has a money making scheme where people pay a percentage of whatever Yeah. Whatever taxes they're gonna supposedly save. Right? But the problem is is Paimon, whatever his last name is, Hattenay or something like that, he's actually been sued by the government and lost. Sued and lost but because he had his asset protection in order, they didn't get much from him and so his claim is I never paid it and they didn't come after me. Whoopee doo you're gonna have a judgment hanging over your head the rest of your life payment And Yeah. And the back to the money making part, the people that bring him on their shows, he gives them half of all the sales that come from their show.
Yeah. So, like, I've I just have to be like when, they were promoting him on the Sons of Liberty. I forget the guy's name that does the morning show. The guy in the morning, Brown. Brown.
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Yeah. Brown. Something like that.
[00:46:53] Unknown:
Yeah. I think it's Tim. Anyway, I I went in there and I'm letting people know because as soon as, payment come on the scene or was, you know, come on my radar, I went and did deep research. I got the actual court documents. I read through the indictments you know I don't just take somebody's opinion for it I went and dug on it and see what this guy's all about and he I believe he's he means well he's passionate, his heart's in the right place, but he doesn't have your information. He doesn't have it. And the other thing too, Roger, and this really kind of brings up a point. I was talking to one of one of your listeners last night and they were part of our trust group and so they were having some questions about some of our documents and so they were asking me about, some of these other types of trust like, I think it's called ecclesiastical trust and there's all kinds of different trusts. They got the five zero eight C1A I believe that's kind of a church trust and and I pointed out that all these vehicles that people have come up with over the course of time modern time here was created to get out of paying taxes.
There's no other way to slice it and one of the guys who was selling a five zero one c or five zero eight c1 a trust was in Tulsa. Man, I wish I could think of his name but he got busted by the IRS and they forced him to turn over the list of all his clients that use that trust they called it an abuse of trust because they were generating income inside the trust and they weren't paying taxes on it. Yeah but because there's misinformation out there saying that you can use this type of trust to avoid paying taxes people glom on to it.
So I find it funny when people show up here and go well what about this person's program and what about this person what about what they got over here? Please understand they do not have Roger's information and the people that have already been exposed to that and they do find Roger they're still reaching back trying to use these old vehicles that are really not proper and they still could get you in some trouble if you're not using them properly. Right? But Roger your information simplifies everything. You don't have to jump through hoops of fire to get tax exempt on your federal income tax.
This this just simplifies it. You don't have to go out here and pay $4,000 $5,000 to somebody to create some trust that could potentially get you in trouble or or whatever paperwork they got a 33 page affidavit. And Roger, I can't tell you enough how much I appreciate you and and sharing your information because all that junk I don't have to put up with anymore I don't even have to consider it. You got the message you got the goods you got the receipts you can back it up and if people will just get that other junk out of their heads and just look at standard business practices using your information, it'll save them a lot of time and headache and save them a ton of money.
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And all this circles back to people trying to get away from IRS. Trusts are not a tax vehicle. They are a property vehicle.
[00:51:06] Unknown:
Yes.
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They're just the whole property. But they keep going somehow somehow, it's like a communist. Well, maybe it'll work this time. You know? Well, no. It won't. Alright? Because it's not meant for that. But, boy, it's just like you said, well, that's one of the big battles I've had over all these years. Mark is getting some of these patriot things out of people's minds. Look. I've got it. It's simple. This is the way it works. Nobody's ever proved me wrong on any of it. Yet they've always got doubts that there's something of the all cap letters has gotta mean something. All all that stuff. Right. It's been one of my big frustrations is trying to get that those ideas out of people's heads. And, you know, it goes back to what Mark Twain said. Mark, Easier to fool a man than to tell him he's been fooled.
Yeah. That is so true. Roger? I I I quote that ever so often too. And it's that other one too. I'm sorry. I forgot I forgot about you, Larry. I'm sorry. My bad. How are you doing, brother?
[00:52:08] Unknown:
Good. I was just wondering, Mark, can you, recap the story behind the gentleman that you talked about earlier getting his refund back? And how is he doing on the, state income tax situation?
[00:52:21] Unknown:
This is really funny because the the feds gave him a full refund. Now it took it's it took some time because they, you know, they filed a a paper return and they asked for a paper check so they could make a copy of it to show other people and the state balked on it and they they taxed him for 2023 but they never gave him an assessment they never showed this is by law what they're supposed to do and actually under Oklahoma law they're supposed to go by your adjusted gross income and we proved that his adjusted gross income was zero based on the IRS tax transcript.
So that's still being challenged right now. We're challenging with the Oklahoma tax commission But what's really funny is this year the Oklahoma tax commission cut him a check lickety split but the IRS forwarded his tax return to the, Utah branch, Ogden. So they're reviewing his federal income tax. So we have just a flip flop this year. So, anyway, we'll see what they, what they come up with.
[00:53:45] Unknown:
Mark, I meant to mention a new guy yesterday, referred by Robbie, r r j, I believe, was his initials. He's, from a bunch in in Tulsa. Okay. There's a foot there's a football coach, captain Dave or somebody over there. I think I've heard him before a little while back, but he's involved in having that group. So, anyway, I mentioned you to him, and he may be listening today. So, RJ, if you are, unmute unmute and come say hello to Mark. Here he's in you're outside of Oklahoma City close. Right?
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Yeah. Yeah. I'm in the in the metro area, Oklahoma City Metro Area.
[00:54:22] Unknown:
Okay. Well, he might not be with us today. You never know. But I thought that was interesting that he was from Tulsa. I don't think you or Joe were on the show yesterday when he came on. Anyway, we're getting some new folks. They dribble in. You know? And Right. I you know, the one thing I know that I think I I know, I'd probably correct that, the worse the situation gets externally, that when and if we do get to that point when the big God opens the door for us, get it on Alex or something like that, the further it goes, the way it's going right now, the bigger reaction they're gonna have when this information is presented to them.
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Right. Right.
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So that's a positive. Yes, ma'am, please.
[00:55:11] Unknown:
I had a question for Mark. Is there a period of time when, that they have to go over and review your taxes or whatever. I'm still waiting on getting mine back.
[00:55:29] Unknown:
Well, you know, they have they have three and a half years from the time you file it, to
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Send it back to you? Give you an assessment.
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And based on that assessment is what tax you owe. So I don't know that there's really any time frame other than they have to have a final say of what they think you owe or don't owe within three and a half years of the filing date on on federal. No. State Yeah. That varies state by state. Talking yeah. Federal.
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I've gotten mine back from the state. No problem. Last year Yeah. They they last year the funds I got back last year, they lost the first one because I sent it to the wrong place, and then I had to resend it back in. And then they processed it. No problem. This year, I sent it to the same place I did last year, and they I got back the return receipt confirmation. They had received it. They never put it into the system. Then I got the excuse that it was bad training. So people are entering the information into the system and closing the batches and then losing all the information they input for the day. And then, so I resent it back in.
It now says they have it, and I've called maybe three times. And they said, oh, it's in review and call back next month. It's in review. You don't call back. No letters. No no update on the where's my refund. No nothing. Yeah. It's it's just call back next month. Yep. Yep. I understand. It's just,
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not much you can do about that. I'd, you know, I'd have to go and look at what their requirements are. You probably could, you know, ask questions on an AI platform and get a pretty good response. But, you know, they do have a taxpayer advocate and they also have another office that's supposed to help you if your tax form got lost or something's hap you know, there's some kind of hold up. You know, they're they've got another office that's supposed to help you with that as well. So I I just can't I remember the acronym. I think it was ATPA, But, I just I don't have a good answer for you, unfortunately.
[00:58:06] Unknown:
Okay. And and for your for your for your people, word-of-mouth and talking to people, I've had two separate kinds of reactions. Either I've had people go into a total meltdown right in front of me and just lose it. Or I've had I've had these people that look at me and they're like but their whole life is invested into the system. And if they walk away from that Yeah. Yep. And they don't worry about paying taxes because they just lie on their tax returns anyway. So it that part doesn't bother them.
[00:58:50] Unknown:
That's the red button that Catherine Austin Fitts tells that story about. Have you seen her tell that story? Same thing. Exactly what you're saying. Well, she's up in front of a group of people doing a talk, and somebody says, can we straighten this out? And she said, yes. All we have to do is press this red button. She got a big red button she brings up on the podium. And somebody says, what happens if you press that button? She said, well, your pensions, the whole world economy, and everything's upside down and it's gone. How many people wanna press it? One guy out of the whole audience would press it.
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Yeah. Irishman.
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Irish. Probably was.
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Okay. Farris, what have you got? Standing by.
[00:59:36] Unknown:
Well, I admitted my 50% Irishness, just by my introduction. It's kind of a trade off of your dubbing me, Iron Man because my name is Ferris Royd. But in any event, I called to contribute the following. I think we're into the mystic here because as I'm listening to, oh, the whistler is here. Can I can I pause?
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Yes. Would you, please? Paul, would you please This is very good. It's on topic. It's on topic. Okay. It's on topic. Fantastic. Paul, would you please, come and bid our visitor's adieu?
[01:00:12] Unknown:
Yes. Yes. I can do that. One zero six point nine WBOU FM Chicago. Follow us into the second hour by going to the matrixdocs.com and clicking on the free conference call link, or you can click on the Euro Folk or Global Voice Links, on that page. Also, any other platforms that are catching us, if we drop off literally now, do the same thing. Go to the matrixdogs.com. Thank you.
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Yes, sir. Really need more time. We we gotta I know. Either got a lights and a whisper I knew it was I knew it was coming up, and I spaced it. My bad. Okay.
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Thank you. Bye. Bye. Bye.
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Yeah. Okay, Farris.
[01:00:54] Unknown:
Good day. I say we're into the mystic here when I hear the same thing on the, greatest, call in show on Earth. That is the Radio Ranch with Roger Sales and company. And in the other ear because we have two ears, you see. You listen to one show in one ear and the other show in the other ear. And the other show is the Stephen K. Bannon founded outfit called realamerica'svoice.com.
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Yeah. And he was on the same topic to
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blah blah. So he was on the same topic that we are on, and that is IRS, abuse and misuse. And so I called to say that he has a fella, and I I won't give a spelling, but it's Trevor Kinsey. It's probably easier to spell. T r e v o r, Kinsey, k I n s e y. Trevor Kinsey. He was on just now, and he is an expert in these IRS matters matters. And I'd also say that he's gonna be on 05:00 today as Bannon's guest on realamerica'svoice.com. Now you will those who are unfamiliar with Stephen K. Bannon's realamerica'svoice.com, they have what are called the, the, what are they called? Anyway, he's got the inside skinny. He's he went to jail for Trump. I mean, how many of you would go to jail for somebody you admired?
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I I'm looking at I don't see any hands raising out there. I admit that's, that's a very noble thing he did and and very chivalrous and accurate.
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Well, I I he happened to go to a place I know very well that is FCI. That is the Federal Correctional Institute at Danbury, Connecticut. And that's where he did his time for his leader. So you don't find men like Bannon, commonly. This is a very rare individual, so don't miss a chance to get him nine, in one ear. We we gotta keep, Radio Ranch in in our left ear and, realamerica'svoice.com in our right ear, seven days a week, twenty four hours a day, seven days a week. And you'll be glad you did because he's got the thing on the Bolshevik revolution. He knows that our country is now lost, totally and forever.
Cannot come back when you see the support for the type of, speech that Mahbani gave gave in New York last night attacking his opponents. Right? So now we know that we're we're we're going for the same kind of, communism that, other great countries once great countries have fallen under, and so I recommend that. But, my Irishness is 50%. My Germanness is 50%. I'd like to mention a new listener to the show coming from a brewery in Idaho of all places. And when I mentioned that I I recently, returned from a extended trip to Germany and Austria, I was around
[01:04:09] Unknown:
Did the meter run out on Ironman?
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Yeah. I guess I guess the meter did.
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And next time you need to put another quarter in.
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Yep.
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Yeah. Iron Man, I got a tangent. That's the longest we've ever given him exposure on the program, and you did pretty good. Okay? But you do get off of your tangent. That's alright. It's talk radio. It's open to the whole world. I had Larry and I had Joe. Larry first, Joe, and I'll get to you in a second. Larry?
[01:04:40] Unknown:
Yeah. If Muse is still here, I had questions for her before Ferris came on. She mentioned that she got her, I believe she mentioned she got her state income tax back, and I was wondering if she could go over that briefly because that's very rare for that to happen. And then, I didn't catch her story completely. I think she said that she sent in her federal her federal return, and she's still waiting on it after so many months, and she has no idea what's going on. And I was wondering if she has proof of delivery and if she's called the IRS.
[01:05:18] Unknown:
I called the IRS multiple times, and they keep telling me to call back next month. I've gotten several different stories. I do have proof of receipt multiple times. It is now currently registered on the where's my refund website. Like, they show it's received on their website. And last year, I did not have a problem getting getting back my state return either. So, both years, the state was fine. It's the federal that it it had a hiccup, and it was the first time it was, I sent it to the wrong place. Whether or not they actually lost it, I don't know. But I'm gonna I'm gonna take that one as I sent it to the wrong place. This year, the return I'm supposed to get this year that was for last year, they lost it the first time, and they the excuse that they told me was that, they had bad training.
They weren't training the people that they had hired on. And so they're working all day, and then they just shut off the computers, which doesn't upload the batch, and it just dumps everything. That was during the time when, Trump had put somebody into that overseeing that, and he had told everybody to work less hours and to cut back on what they were doing. And, and then he fired them and put somebody else in there. So I resent it back in again. They have it, but now they're on this holding thing where they're not processing them or they're scrutinizing or whatever they're doing. So they said that they had sent it over to be reviewed.
They asked me if I had received a letter, and they said, if you receive a letter, just respond to it. I have not received anything. I called back again. The they said, oh, you gotta wait. You can't call back so quickly. Then I called back again, and then they said, oh, it's it's still in the review status. You know? Call back next month.
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Are they using the term review or frozen?
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Reviewed.
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Reviewed. On that.
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And when you asked them why is it in review, like, what exactly does that mean? What what answer did they give you?
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They just they just said they're reviewing it. And they asked me if I had received a letter. I haven't received any letter. And and when I told them I hadn't received any letter, they said, well, just call back next month. I'm in. So I call back next month, and it's still the same thing.
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Yes.
[01:08:24] Unknown:
Find a real find the name of a real person to send a letter to, a certified letter, and, tell them that you expect to be receiving your refund as well as penalties and interest because of the delay their delay in processing, which wasn't your fault, particularly because the data was entered and then dumped. That's not your problem. That's their problem. So penalties and interest.
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You can write to, to Heather Hill, who's, the acting inspector general for for, tax administration, Tig TIGTA, and, let her know what's going on too. And you could cc the commissioner.
[01:09:18] Unknown:
And it's TigTA?
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Tax administrator. What's his what's it? Tigta?
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T I g t a.
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Okay.
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Tigta. Well, good luck, Muse and I. Hey. Just dealing with the bureaucratic shuffle.
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They're not your,
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state return when you filled out your state return, did you do anything special? How how'd you go about doing that?
[01:10:01] Unknown:
I I did not do anything special. I don't think I did anything special. I just I followed the instructions, and I copied over the information from the federal to the state. Now I did send a copy of my affidavit with both both times. And, I did let them know that it's been on file for a long time, my affidavit. And that that's pretty much it.
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On the state form, did you use the equivalent state form to the federal, the the nonresident alien, or did you just use the regular state form that's the equivalent to a ten forty?
[01:10:53] Unknown:
I I well, I I use the NR. So it's equivalent to the nonresident alien?
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Uh-huh.
[01:11:04] Unknown:
And if you don't if you don't mind me asking, what state is this? Michigan.
[01:11:08] Unknown:
Michigan. Mhmm. It's unusual that it works so it's unusual that it works so smoothly at first, Muse, is in your state. I think that's Tom. We got Joe's back there. I hadn't forgot about you, Joe.
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Tom, what what do you got?
[01:11:24] Unknown:
Oh, it's Mars. I'm sorry. I got a real quick comment. When you when you send in a ten forty n r, there's two types. One where you're expecting a refund that always goes to Austin processing center. And then you've got one where you owe a tax and I believe that's North Carolina, it's usually not my focus cause most everybody gets a refund. But and you may correct me but I want to say there's an office in North Carolina where you send if you have to owe a tax as a as a national excuse me. I've kinda lost my train of thought there. But as a national, if you owe a tax and you're filing a ten forty and r, then and you're gonna write a check, then that's gotta go to North Carolina.
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I sure didn't.
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Yeah. And I think that's where I sent it the first year Yeah. Around the '20 got delayed. Yes.
[01:12:26] Unknown:
And so this year, I sent it to you. Right.
[01:12:30] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah.
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Well, it's in the instructions. To Austin.
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And Okay. Good.
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As as far as I'm aware, everything should have processed correctly. Now, Michigan, when I initially sent them my notice, They did respond back to me and said they would not debate my affidavit on a point by point basis. So I let them know every time I send in anything that they've already responded to my affidavit that they have it, that's on file.
[01:13:09] Unknown:
You would I think I would come back and say, I'm not asking you to respond on a point by point basis. If it doesn't apply, simply state your facts and sign it under penalty of perjury and disavow what I've got online. That's the only way you can do it.
[01:13:28] Unknown:
Oh, well, I took it as, you know, we've received your affidavit, and we're just letting you know we received your affidavit in our backhanded negative kind of way. So I just filed that in my file, and I just I let them know the first year I filed the for the return that they had already received my affidavit and responded back to me that they were not acknowledged.
[01:13:55] Unknown:
Yes. Acknowledged that they'd received it.
[01:13:59] Unknown:
Correct. And so and they sent me back my return. They sent me back my funds. No problem. They sent me back my funds. No problem. This year, it's the IRS that is, seems to be the holdup, and I can only conclude that, a, they're trying to do a work slowdown, and, b, they're probably running out of funds.
[01:14:23] Unknown:
Could be. I I have no idea. You. Anyway, good luck with it. However you do it, I'd just sit back and wait and see what they do. Continue to give them a call and, just be patient. It should I I will bet they'll pay up.
[01:14:40] Unknown:
Yeah. I just I just wanna know if it's, gonna be under the new currency.
[01:14:48] Unknown:
Yes, ma'am. Well, I understand that. But, anyway, sorry people have these kind of problems with dealing, especially with those people, IRS. You know, we for many years, we didn't even mention IRS around here until John went back and did that revocation of election and got all that substantial sum of money back. And that started all the interest and here we are still dealing with it a few years down the road. But that's kinda new. We didn't use the alright. Hold on. We had Joe, You were in in waiting? Yep. Hey, bud. I didn't forget about that.
[01:15:27] Unknown:
Okay. Just a brief
[01:15:30] Unknown:
just a brief comment. And I know many in the group are turned off to anything Farris says that he did speak one truth. And Steve Bannon is gonna be as good information as you're gonna get on what's going on on the other side. He's and you have to know what's going on over there to be able to figure what that what's going on. And And what you need to do? To Steve Bannon is beg your pardon, Roger?
[01:16:04] Unknown:
I was just gonna say, yeah. Go go ahead, Joe. I'm sorry we got this damn bad. Go ahead. He he's a very credible source.
[01:16:11] Unknown:
Yeah. And he will criticize Trump just as quick as anybody. And he has recently criticized him heavily.
[01:16:20] Unknown:
So Yeah. Well, evidently, his ratings have just tanked all of a sudden. Boom. I like I like him. I like Bannon, and, I just don't intentionally dial over on his show. I see clips of him and whatnot. But, well, I I kinda came to that conclusion for a long time ago. There is no political solution to this. I don't believe. I applaud anybody trying and even making small inroads into that. But in the big picture, I don't think there is a political solution, unfortunately.
[01:16:54] Unknown:
One of the reasons I'm here teaching this all I had. I just This is a solution.
[01:17:00] Unknown:
Okay. Yeah. Thank you, Joe. He wanted to give a, a layering of approval for mister Bannon. Okay. So, Murr, we got you and Larry's conversation taken care of, I think. Mark, you got anything else to bring up if you had a chance to look at that Utah Supreme Court case yet?
[01:17:25] Unknown:
No. You have to remind me which one was that?
[01:17:31] Unknown:
Gayette. It's that weird, diet or gayette versus something. I don't remember the style of it, unfortunately. But you're gonna feed into, AI and see what they said about it. Yeah. Because I thought what a 100 pages or something. 150.
[01:17:48] Unknown:
150 pages. Yeah. I think what
[01:17:53] Unknown:
Yeah. What they read on there was lockstep with what we do. Go ahead. Alright. Cool.
[01:18:01] Unknown:
The thing I I had, and that's cool if it's lockstep in what we're talking about, then people in Utah shouldn't have any problem being you know tax exempt as a national but it's it's a state case and it's the state Supreme Court so it only controls the courts that are below the Utah State Supreme Court. Now it can be used as guidance in other cases So but where where the real power would be is to get our hands on the briefs that were presented. What was the year of that case?
[01:18:42] Unknown:
6068. Was that it, folks?
[01:18:47] Unknown:
Okay.
[01:18:48] Unknown:
I I think it's '68.
[01:18:51] Unknown:
I like to dig dig into it. Well, I I want you to when you get a few minutes. I know. Okay. I know your limitations. So, who else had something they wanted to bring forward this morning?
[01:19:05] Unknown:
Hey. This is Dan in Oregon.
[01:19:08] Unknown:
Hello, Dan. I think we spoke with you the other day, didn't we?
[01:19:12] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. So regarding Steve Bannon, I can tell you this. I had, Britt Leonard's book, excellence of the common law compared and contrasted to civil law sent to him in Danbury Prison where I thought he might have some time to at least open up and read the preface. But I see no indication that he's done that. My next target was gonna be Charlie Kirk, but there went that I thought he might be a little more open to it and, be persuaded to our arguments. Anyway, I just wanted to throw that in there regarding mister
[01:19:56] Unknown:
Bannon. Plus, you know, part of that would have a gift.
[01:19:59] Unknown:
The the problem we have trying to approach some of these people is they've got their own lives and the world is swirling around them and all this stuff on their plate. And you're giving them something here that they they can't just fold it in like a juggler would an extra ball. They gotta stop and put everything on the background and look at this because it's so dramatic a change. And I think that's part of the problem with addressing this with with really high pro higher profile successful people. May not be, but I think I feel like it is, you know?
And, and you can't make a snap judgment on this. Most people can't. Bam. Yes or no. And, you can't give this information or it's very difficult to feed it to people in sound bites Because you can't look at a sound bite and get the whole depth of what this is. So it's got a lot of challenges to it, Dan, as we've all found out, I guess. Yes, sir. Well, keep going keep on going one step in front of the other. That's what you gotta do is we've been doing it for years, and, I never believed it would be this difficult. That's the one thing that surprises me of how effectively they've got the people totally screwed into the ground backwards.
It's amazing. Anyway, Dan, glad glad you're out there. Thanks for the comment. Anything else you wanna say?
[01:21:27] Unknown:
Oh, my dog, Okey. He was diagnosed with spleen cancer October 15, and he's hanging in there, but, boy, has it been a roller coaster ride. I'm sorry. Anyway, that's I'm sorry.
[01:21:39] Unknown:
I'm so sorry. Hold it. Julie. Yes. You may. That's Julie. Correct?
[01:21:44] Unknown:
Yes. Dan, you need to get your dog on fenbendazole. I can't tell you the number of people whose dogs were diagnosed with cancer, and they're using fenbendazole. You can get it on Amazon. It's also known as Panacure, and it has reversed its parasites.
[01:22:02] Unknown:
Yes. I'm working on getting the right dosages for mine. That is something in the quiver I wanna use. Thank you, Julie.
[01:22:10] Unknown:
Yeah. You would Thank you, Dan. 10 it's one packet it's one packet, which is one gram per ten pounds. And they tell you on the insert to, round up, but I always round down. And I have so many of my friends who have their dogs with, cancer and all sorts of stuff. And and my dog was supposed to die three years ago from heart disease, and he's better than ever before. So I yield.
[01:22:36] Unknown:
Well, Julie, we didn't know you were a dog lover. What kind of a little pooch do you have? You have a mutt or a a breed?
[01:22:43] Unknown:
I have the most beautiful service dog in the world because I had bone I had a bone marrow transplant, and he's actually a service dog. He's super duper smart, but he's a teeny tiny mixed Pomeranian. Like I said, just smarter than smarter than the Dickens. He's 14 years old.
[01:23:03] Unknown:
Wow. Wow. Well, most smaller dogs live longer, generally. Okay. Well, good. I didn't know you had that. That's good. Also, Julie, among her many other talents, she's knowledgeable in the veterinary area. So there you go. Yeah.
[01:23:19] Unknown:
And you don't take your dog to the vet anymore for rabies. Rabies is gonna kill your dog. You do not need a rabies vaccine, and you don't need to take your dog for teeth cleaning. There are, new cloths that are online that you can just rub your teeth your dog's teeth with that will get rid of all of the tartar and stuff. And it's just one big racket, yields.
[01:23:41] Unknown:
Wow. Well, that's pretty cool. Okay. Thank you, Julie. Thank you, Dan. Anybody else got something they'd like to bring forward? We've got number of listeners in the audience there. Oh, I know a lot of folks are working and listening in the background. Well, okay. We've got a few minutes left on the show here. I'll post something. Yeah. Okay. Please.
[01:24:09] Unknown:
So speaking of today's head headlines, just this is just regular, headlines. Lindsey Graham brags that anti Zionist, that, anti Zionist public figures, will be executed on live TV. Then there's another article Elon Musk, his AI satellite network will regulate sunlight. Electric cars can be controlled by China. Queen Elizabeth's closest aide was arrested for raping children. And, Sean from the TPV that you like, he's on the Alex Jones show, sometimes for some segments basically says that, Israel is trying to assassinate Candace Owens and Tucker, Carlson.
So, oh, and then, there was another headline that the real reason for the Epstein Kirk assassination was he actually got ahold of the Epstein files. So those are the news lines that I read today. How lovely.
[01:25:26] Unknown:
Wow. He actually got a hold of the Epstein files?
[01:25:32] Unknown:
It's a rumor. These are all rumors that he had the Epstein files. I don't have any proof yet, and I haven't read all the articles. But I just looked at them, and I was like, wow. There's talk about no positive news for today.
[01:25:45] Unknown:
Oh, yeah. Okay. Well, I don't know what happened, but Roger just dropped off. He he disappeared.
[01:25:56] Unknown:
So Yeah. He had a power outage.
[01:25:59] Unknown:
Well, he might have had a power outage or or like a Internet interruption. Whatever. We'll just keep an eye on Zoom and see if he, comes back. He might have hit the wrong button. He does that sometimes. Let me let me check and see if his Hey. Hey, Paul. Are there more people on Zoom?
[01:26:19] Unknown:
Hey, Paul. Are there more people on Zoom or more people on SDC?
[01:26:23] Unknown:
Oh, that no. Roger's the remote is still on for Roger. Let's see.
[01:26:35] Unknown:
Julie, I'm a answer for Paul. I'm I'm almost certain there's a lot more people on FCC than Zoom. Zoom usually is just a couple.
[01:26:43] Unknown:
Yeah. Zoom is only there for, for Roger because it's, it's a high contrast, screen and he can actually see it, and he he knows Zoom, and he knows where all the buttons are and what they do and all that. The free conference call app is just so pastel that it's difficult for him to see it. You know, white lettering on gray on a gray background, I have trouble with that. So Yeah. And it looks like, Roger, was available for remote control, and then all of a sudden, he disappeared, but now he's back. So I expect that he'll be rejoining us in Zoom shortly.
[01:27:29] Unknown:
And, Julie, you mentioned you mentioned earlier that people's voice Sean? People's voice, Sean. Yeah. And his and his last name, if I'm looking correctly It's very weird. Yeah. But literally is a d l Yep. Tabataba or something like that? Yep. Crazy.
[01:27:53] Unknown:
Yep. That's why he only goes by his first name, Sean, on his x or Twitter. I think it's at, the tpvshawn, s e a n. He doesn't I don't think he's originally from, I don't know where he lives. Whether he lives in America or he's in Australia or he's in The UK. He definitely has a British accent or an Australian accent when he speaks. But, yeah, his last name is quite weird. And actually, the People's Voice was actually founded by David Ike. And David Ike stepped down, and I guess he was the one who was appointed.
[01:28:40] Unknown:
Okay. There we go. I believe that I have Roger back now. Are you there, Raj? Hello? Roger?
[01:28:58] Unknown:
Maybe he didn't unmute himself, Paul.
[01:29:02] Unknown:
No. I I unmuted him. He might might be seizing the opportunity to step off to the, off to the other room, and he'll be back. So, yeah, the only thing that we have Zoom for is to support Roger because he can see the interface. Yeah. He could read it.
[01:29:23] Unknown:
And, Yep. I'm back.
[01:29:25] Unknown:
There you go. Alright.
[01:29:28] Unknown:
Gotcha. Gotcha. We lost the Internet. We lost well, we lost the Internet here for a minute. So I took the opportunity to go visit the potty while we were out. Debano. Come back and we're on. So there you go. El Elbano. Yeah. I hear my come out. Hello. Two two three voices. Oh, there's Mark. Okay. Recognize Mark. Everything came out fine. Yeah. So, yeah, I drink a couple of cups of coffee, and I have a a drink that I normally drink, a couple of raw eggs in it, and some vitamins. And, about halfway or more through the show, that gets to be pressing on you. You know? Mhmm. So, yep, that's one of the usual reasons I have to get out of here so badly.
At the show. Anyway, I've got a window open here, Paul.
[01:30:20] Unknown:
Yeah. That was because I just disconnected remote. So you closed that window.
[01:30:26] Unknown:
Back in, the little white window?
[01:30:29] Unknown:
Yeah. I I know that your your Internet went out because, you were available by remote, then your computer disappeared, and then your computer came back. So Yeah. I just jumped in to refresh refresh Zoom. Thank you.
[01:30:47] Unknown:
Thank you. Well, I'm sorry to run away like that, but it wasn't any of my, fault doing, period. So, let's see. What were y'all discussing while I was gone? Did anything come up? We weren't gone very long.
[01:31:04] Unknown:
No. We were we were just talking about this, that, and the other thing.
[01:31:10] Unknown:
Yeah. So kind of one of those days. It's gonna be interesting to see the results. I do not like all this Muslim intrusion in these high offices, but it's obvious what they're doing, and it's obvious what they're doing. I I I'm not sure how to put a stop to it.
[01:31:32] Unknown:
Yeah. That's a mystery as well.
[01:31:37] Unknown:
Well, of course, they'll be taking over once again, our affidavit rights to the forefront because of that. We as one refuge is that we will be exiting the federal jurisdiction area, and that's where they'll be plying on. Because the only way you can force that is just by outright bloodshed, and I'm gonna cut your head off, or or you're gonna enforce it regulatorily. All of the UN things are all regulatorily enforced. And, of course, that gives us a backdoor out if and they recognize it. And, then we all know, as I've said so many times, we all know what the rules are at that point.
[01:32:19] Unknown:
Right.
[01:32:22] Unknown:
Just so sorry. There's a lot of people that are trapped in their situation. You know, they didn't have good they didn't know what they're doing. They're making decisions. They didn't know why they make decisions correctly. They made wrong decisions, and now they're trapped in some of those situations. And with the way the the, inflation's going up in prices, they can't get out. K. So it's very unfortunate. Something to be said about knowing
[01:32:55] Unknown:
It's it's not like they're they're really going to, and it is eventually gonna get to the point as they take over the government that they're gonna get to the point where they refuse to accept the affidavit because, of course, you know, we're all infidels and, their their goal in life is to wipe as many of us off the planet as possible and, you know, it's not so you have the right to personal political self determination. They will claim the right under Allah to wipe us all out. So
[01:33:29] Unknown:
if No. I'm talking to them. Happen soon,
[01:33:33] Unknown:
things are gonna go real bad, real fast. Good. Good. And we can't suggest anything. Otherwise, we're, anti Islamic and all this happy shit. So Well,
[01:33:46] Unknown:
it it it's quite a challenge. Do the things you know you can do if you don't have firearms and ammunition yet. Shame on you. Yep. That that's one with self defense, you ought to do quick. Food, for storage could also be very handy. All all those things of immediate being able to survive, certainly outweigh gold and silver. Okay? If you got extra, that's fine. But, you know, those other things take a high priority, obviously. Try to just get it if you haven't gotten out of the cities. If there's some people that have not gotten out of the city yet, You know, there's still time to do that, but not much.
I know there are other things that are prohibitive, although we did mention the Federal Reserve dropped the overnight rate a quarter of a point last week. Should have been much more, but at least it's a little bit. K? I don't know, man. There's a reason I just knew I needed to get out of there. That voice told me to get out. I I I look up from afar, and I'm just, it it it it just stuns me to see the directions the country's gone on. It really does. Mhmm. So he's good. You know, we got all that drug stuff down here, and unless you're on the coast, there's just no fear, no nothing, no not even any consciousness of it really.
So anyway, for me personally, I can look back and say there's a couple of things I made of real smart decisions. One of them when I had the excess cash flow was to buy all of those metals, and the other one was to take heed of that advice and get out of the country so many years ago. Now I don't know whether and we've talked about this because I had, at one point a few years ago, I went, wow. Well, were was I told to get out to get out, or was I told to get out so that I'd have to go get a passport for the first time and see this information I've been looking for and solve this big puzzle? Maybe it's a combination of both. I don't know. But I'm some of the better decisions I've made in my adult lifetime.
I can tell you, that's what, personally, I consider anyway. And so I know I'm very fortunate. I had a lot of situations that didn't have situations that other people have, family, children, all all those roots and attachments and etcetera. And I could do this, and, boy, I'm glad I did. Sure am glad I did. It's given me a a neat second life in different parts of the world, different cultures, and even learning a little bit of another language, enough to butcher it. I know enough to butcher it pretty good, Julie. And, so it's been a lot of personal growth for me, which is how I've in the second part of my life, I've come to understand and measure progress by personal growth. And, I've I've really gone through a lot of personal growth here in this move and in these years. So it's been quite a neat experience, actually.
So cool.
[01:37:10] Unknown:
Could I ask a question?
[01:37:12] Unknown:
Yes, ma'am. Please. We're begging for people to ask questions.
[01:37:16] Unknown:
It's Annie. Who are you?
[01:37:18] Unknown:
Oh, Annie. I'm Annie. Annie from the other day? Yes.
[01:37:22] Unknown:
Yes. From Monday.
[01:37:24] Unknown:
Okay. Hi, Annie. What question you got, sweetie?
[01:37:29] Unknown:
Are there other places other than Ecuador or including Ecuador that would be good places to move to outside of The United States that you could recommend?
[01:37:40] Unknown:
There's a few people like, they're getting fewer and fewer. Ecuador is really good, and here's why. The president current president is the son of a former the they call him banana boy because his father built a banana fortune. And he was born in The US. He had his mom go to Miami to have him. So he's actually a US citizen. The biggest difference, I think, that you would maybe not even notice initially, but it's really important, is that we're on the dollar. There's a couple of other countries around the world that are on the dollar, and you don't have to deal with exchange rates. And that's one of the really big attractions here.
And, and the other big attraction is they're on the dollar, but they don't have the printing press. So they can't print the dollars. They have to borrow them from these bandits. So you know that they would only borrow as few as they need to circulate. Right? Now that sets up another interesting situation is you better have a coin purse when you're down here because there's all kinds of coins and they have a dollar coin. And the reason for that is because coins are are spent into circulation and don't carry interest. Currency is loaned into circulation at interest.
So countries can increase the circulating medium by just putting more coins out. Consequently, you need a point coin purse. It's unusual. Let's see. Other good countries. Some people we had one guy here, Scott, who's from Atlanta. He went, he tried, where did he try? In the in The Caribbean for a while. The country that speaks English over there, and they're on the dollar too. And I can't remember the name of the country. Anyway, he was there for a long time. If you like mosquitoes and stuff, it's a grand they're more thieves there than than maybe other places. But I'll think Panama?
No. It's not Panama. It's one of those other little countries. It was a British protectorate, and it's on the Caribbean side of Belize. Thank you very much. Belize. He came up here. He hung around here for a while and went to The Philippines. So Scott's over on that side of the world. Many people really like it over there, but but it is a long way away from The States. Here, it's only a five hour flight. Mhmm. Where else? Paraguay, possibly. Paraguay is very nice. Uruguay is very nice. It depends on you, the those are good countries, to the expats like them.
Argentina's just got too many political and financial problems, although they are moving on the dollar, so they say. I don't know if they are yet or not, but that was proposed. I think they probably are on it already. In this hemisphere, Chile possibly, the Belize, not Belize, where the Bitcoin guys are. El Salvador. A lot of people are talking about El Salvador. If you like the beach, you can still buy land with a loyalty of title down there. I saw a video with a guy that had done that. So there's a few other places, Costa Rica.
Joan, our listeners from coast is lives down there. A lot of people, there there's getting to be so many Americans, North Americans down there. The Costa Ricans really resent them, I've heard. And, I'm not sure it's the best of the options now, but you may that's another option, certainly. So there's just a few for you. I'm not sure about other parts of the world. Right. Okay. Thank you. Yes. Yes. Well, hold on. So I might need some of these other folks may. Is that Samuel? Was that you, Samuel?
[01:41:53] Unknown:
It was Jesse.
[01:41:55] Unknown:
Oh, hey, Jesse. Yeah. Jesse, you got some suggestions?
[01:41:59] Unknown:
Well, the question is, it depends on the person what where their needs are. They wanna be close to The States. Are they able to speak Spanish? Yeah. They're going family or it's a single woman or single man. All depends. So sometimes, one country fits, for a certain person and and doesn't favor another person. Very good observation and very accurate. And, and, and what type of food do you want? You want a lot of meat? Maybe Argentina's for you.
[01:42:33] Unknown:
Actual no. You know, Jesse, the beef No. The major beef market has moved out of Argentina. It's in Uruguay now.
[01:42:42] Unknown:
Yeah. But what I mean, the culture, you know, your everyday, eating habits. You know, in many ways, Uruguay, Paraguay, Argentina is more like a Texan. They got parrillas or whatever, the barbecue steak Yeah. And so on. And then Central America, the only country I could think is closer to meat or sort of Texas, and they're they're the of all Central America, exporter of meat is, believe it or not, Nicaragua. Compared to, Costa Rica, they're not into the they're more into, fried rice, beans, and soup.
[01:43:19] Unknown:
So yeah. Fish. All depends. Seafood.
[01:43:22] Unknown:
Yeah. Seafood and all that. Paraguay. All depends on Paraguay.
[01:43:25] Unknown:
Paraguay, I've said I've I wish I could remember the guy's name. He did a video a while back because he has developed a whole development down there for people. And if you build a house, you become part owner of the development. It was, of Paraguay's flat. It's got two really countries. There's two countries in one, the lower country where, oh, what's the, what's the capital of, Paraguay? You remember Jesse? I'm skips my mind. Associon.
[01:43:55] Unknown:
It starts with a s.
[01:43:59] Unknown:
And, Asuncion in the lower part of the country is where all the business is done. The upper part is flat and and is, more in fact, they don't even speak Spanish there. The native they speak a native tongue there. A lot of agriculture or whatnot. Pretty poor. Uruguay, small little country. I've been over there many times and, I like it. It's, it's kind of a use it's kind of like the Wild West of finance, and the Switzerland to South America, if you will. They clamp down on that a bit, but all the big players, financial players are in Montevideo. Okay?
All all the world banks and stuff. And the thing is is that Brazil has been pretty wealthy and Argentina has wealth and both of those countries can be confiscatory. And so everybody just takes our money to Uruguay. So it's got a lot of wealth there also. K? Nice nice country.
[01:45:04] Unknown:
The new kid on the block is Paraguay. I really like Paraguay. But, you know, if you're in USA and you wanna be back and forth, you know, you gotta get get two two, stops to get to, you know, eight or nine hours, airplane and the ticket's more expensive than you live in Costa Rica, you could go straight flight, and it'll be cheaper from Nicaragua. So all those factors, you have to think about it. All those factors. But I really, really, really like Paraguay. Paraguay has a lot of things. It was 10% income tax, and you're expired. You don't pay nothing. Another thing is qualification. You know? Do you qualify? You know? Takes $2,500, if I remember right, Costa Rica monthly for two or three years compared to, Paraguay. You only have to put $5,000 and meet certain requirement.
And, so all those factors go in there. The are you more a smaller country, you know, or a bigger country Paraguay. Community?
[01:46:02] Unknown:
Paraguay's got a pretty long established hundred year or more Mennonite community down there. So there's quite a few Mennonites that left Europe and went down and settled in Paraguay too, Anne.
[01:46:15] Unknown:
And they talk And they talk they talk real Spanish.
[01:46:19] Unknown:
They well, in in Southern They talk real Spanish. Yeah. They talk Castegano. That's what they they don't even call it Spanish. They call it Castagina. Castagina. Yeah. Yes, Anne. What's your question?
[01:46:36] Unknown:
Hi. I I have a question. My name is Alma. Hi, Alma. And, I'm new to hi. I'm new to the program, and I'm new to the to all this, you know, movement. And Okay. My question is, I've been following the process, and right now, we're waiting. My cousin and I are waiting for our passports, and, we will file for our kids because I didn't know that we needed to, schedule an appointment since they're minors. So we should have that done, this, Saturday. But we are waiting for that. So our next step is, to remove ourselves from the federal tax system. So but I, when I'm following the steps to the t here that that are posted in the national status website. Now it has a warning. And my question is, like, from the people that, you know that have done this, process of withdrawing or removing from the federal tax system, how it has been for them? It it it it like, do they have, like, success stories?
They run into a lot of trouble? How it has been for them?
[01:48:11] Unknown:
Generally, we don't run into any problems. Occasionally, you will, and sometimes it's just weird situations of situations of people using the wrong form to do something or the wrong nomenclature. Let me ask you. Did you say your name was Alma? Alma. Alma Arellano. Yes. That's my name. Hi, Alma. Well, how did you find us? A. And it sounds like you're from a from another culture. B. It sounds like you've got a a little bit of Spanish in your culture. And I'd like to ask you, what part of the country you're in.
[01:48:46] Unknown:
Okay. Yeah. I found you because I attended a conference. You might probably know this person. He passed away a few weeks ago. Peterson in South Carolina, I think. In and he had a a speaker that came and gave a conference. And they were talking about, to becoming a national and then about the scam that the birth certificate is and all that stuff. So the comments, somebody mentioned your name, and then I looked it up. And that's how I of course, it was a struggle for me, you know, going through the website and trying to find, you know, the movement, but I did.
And then, you know, I started reading and and going through the information, trying to understand. And then finally, you know, a few weeks ago, my husband and I decided that we were going to do this since I know that I understand everything. I understand why you say that it will take time for us to kind of feel confident on what we're doing. And, yeah, I am from Mexico, and so my main language is Spanish. So it might is my husband's as well. And, I came and established I came from Mexico and established here in New Jersey about twenty five years ago.
[01:50:20] Unknown:
Okay. So you're in New Jersey?
[01:50:23] Unknown:
Yes. In New Jersey. Mhmm.
[01:50:26] Unknown:
Okay. Well, listen, Alma, welcome. First of all, I'm I'm kind of astounded. I really applaud your perseverance in getting here. It tells me that you really want what's here or you wouldn't have put all that effort to get here within the obstacles that may be through culture or language. So welcome. We'll bend over backwards to help you and your cousin and your children and all your whole family if you wanna go down this path, and then, obviously, it sounds like you do. What questions you're asking, first of all, about IRS? I'm just gonna open it up to the audience. We got about 50 people in the audience. Has anybody had any substantial problems with IRS since you did this?
[01:51:08] Unknown:
Right here.
[01:51:10] Unknown:
Oh, here's Boris now. He can talk to you in Spanish. Boris, be meet Alma.
[01:51:23] Unknown:
If you need help, we we could help you. And I don't know nobody that have any problem here.
[01:51:29] Unknown:
Let me tell you Boris' story. He comes on one day and says, Roger, I wanna thank you because I just say I saved enough money by getting out of IRS that I was able to go home to Puerto Rico for the first time on vacation. So that's the kind of results we have. Okay?
[01:51:50] Unknown:
You're not allowed.
[01:51:52] Unknown:
I don't think they know what to do with this, Alma, because we've caught them right where they've choked and got this thing instituted, and they don't know what to do about it. Again, they can't deny it, and they can't rebut it. And every time they lash out, they can't go very far. So we've been very successful, I think, in my opinion, at keeping these people at bay. Now, Alma, I want you to meet Myrca. She's also got a Spanish background, and she has a resource for you. Myrca?
[01:52:27] Unknown:
Hi. How are you doing? Good.
[01:52:30] Unknown:
Welcome. I wanted to ask you, so you and your husband already sent your affidavits in. Right? And you and you're looking to, start one for your children too?
[01:52:43] Unknown:
Yeah. Well, actually, what I did, it was me who was doing the entire thing and just, you know, kind of letting my father know about, like, the process that I I was I was taking. But we follow every single step. You know, I read and read and read and went through before doing what I what I, you know, what what I did. I I followed the steps found at national status info, the website. Like like I said, I follow it to the t. So because, you know, I didn't wanna have any any issues. And so far, we are like, the four of us, it's my husband, my two minor kids, and myself.
We are in the process of getting the passport now because we received. We follow I mean, we we submitted the affidavit, and then, we send the notices, to the different agencies, I guess. And then now we are we we applied for passports. My husband and I the the application went out yesterday. We're waiting to submit our kits, to be this Saturday. And then so now after we receive the passports, boards, I'm going to do the removal from the federal tax system. But, since it has a warning here, then it says that, this method is not associated with national status teachings of mister Rogers Saenz. So that's what I have that question. Like, if if anyone had ever encountered, you know, any difficulties doing the withdrawal or the removal from the federal tax system.
So I know you know what to expect, but I will do exactly as as it says here. I am very good at going in terms of direction.
[01:54:41] Unknown:
Just just wanted to give you just wanted to give you my my telegram just in case you wanna reach out. Yeah. I want you two to get hooked up here. Go ahead, Marco. Like, reach out to me on Telegram. It's National Status Freedom, and I just wanted to double check. So you did send an affidavit in for your children or not yet? Yes. Yes. Okay. Okay. Because I had to do that for mine too. So, I can help, guide you through it and give you some information that you can review so that you you and your husband can learn more and and what it means to live in the private now. So, please reach out on national status freedom on Telegram.
The link is on the matrix docs.
[01:55:33] Unknown:
Yeah. We'll hook you guys up, and, I just wanna say, you know, how neat it is for me. I'm up for you and your whole family, your cousin there, all your children, your husbands, the whole clan. You would have never been able to be free in this world any other way than stumbling into this right here.
[01:55:54] Unknown:
Yeah. I you know what? I'm yeah. I'm sorry. Go ahead.
[01:55:59] Unknown:
No. No. You go ahead, please.
[01:56:02] Unknown:
Yep. What I wanted to say, and I guess that's the first thing that I should have done, is thank you. Thank you a lot for the platform. Thank you for the website. I told my husband two days ago, I appreciate a lot people like these gentlemen, because, you know, you took the time and maybe you have a whole team also, with you, but you have the time. You took the time to put this together. And I know how difficult it can be even for some people even to, you know, file one document. And now but you have it already here for us. And you took the time and then the dedication and everything for us, you know, just to go because you even have or your website even has the, the the letter. You know? We just have to type in some information and then which I use, by the way. I use that because I didn't wanna mess up anything.
And, and I I received everything in, in my email, and I'm like, this is super cool. This is fantastic. And I appreciate a lot all the time and dedication and all these years that I hear that you've been working on this movement for us to be free. So thank you very much to you and your team and the people that are with you all the time. Well well, the reason that we do it is for people like you and your family, as I was saying.
[01:57:33] Unknown:
I do want you to understand this. I've certainly contributed a big part here, but I don't know that you understand that we're talking about over a 100 of legal and historical research by three men. I wasn't the only one. I stood on my teacher's shoulders. So you've got something that is such a longevity and passed down through a couple of different people, and I'm gonna pass it down to you guys. And we're just tickled to death, Alma, that you came on the air. Thank you so much for allowing us to meet you and share a little insight into your family and situation.
Now as you go further Roger. You know how to get hold of us now, and I don't want you to ever be shy about coming on here and asking questions or having a conversation. Okay?
[01:58:23] Unknown:
Okay. For sure, I won't because, you know, I will have many questions. Right now, my husband is a little nervous, and I am as well. And and I know that I you know? Yeah. But about, you know, the driver license, about, also the hunting license, and all these things, like, how it's gonna play out, you know, for for for us and for him.
[01:58:48] Unknown:
Also, your husband we're on here Saturday. Your husbands husband or husbands are certainly welcome to participate if they are off that day. Myrka, you had something to say to her? You better do it quick.
[01:59:00] Unknown:
I just wanna tell Alma, the main website is thematrixdocs.com. Correct. Okay. The the the matrixdocs,d0cs,.com.dotcom.
[01:59:17] Unknown:
Yep. Go to that website because there's a lot of information on Oh, boy. There's a ton there. Go to the new student section, Alma. But listen, best thing to do is come back and visit us again. We're right at the tail of the broadcast part of the program. And, so we're gonna cut this off. We'll continue tomorrow, but we do hang around here afterwards. So thank you. See you soon. Let Paul cut that off. And, now, Alma, we have this little second part of the program called the after show, and there are people here till the wee hours of the morning oftentimes. So should you ever get a bolt of a question and we're not on the air, you can tap right back in and probably find somebody here. Okay?
[02:00:03] Unknown:
Okay. Okay. Got it. Thank you very much.
[02:00:06] Unknown:
No. Thank you, sweetie. Nice to meet you. Does anybody else have anything for me?
[02:00:12] Unknown:
Roger, I just wanna make sure she, she did write down that thematrixdocs.com because that's where the links are for everything.
[02:00:21] Unknown:
Yeah.
[02:00:22] Unknown:
And that's where she'll find my Telegram group too, National Status Freedom.
[02:00:27] Unknown:
Yep. She got a link there on the page too, Alma. Thematrixdocs.com. So, if nobody else has got something for me, I'm gonna dart off and hunt hunt down some lunch. And, otherwise, we'll be back tomorrow to see what kind of dust gets stirred up today after this election day yesterday and whatever else comes along. Have a great day. I love each and every one of you, and you're very, very special. And, we will look forward to seeing you if not tomorrow, hopefully very soon. Thank you, Paul. As always, my friend. Alright, Bory. Yep.
[02:01:09] Unknown:
Gracias. Thank you, Raj.
[02:01:10] Unknown:
Thank you for everything.
[02:01:13] Unknown:
Are you I had to step away for a minute, and I was just wondering, did Anna get all her stuff taken care of?
[02:01:19] Unknown:
I think so. We just wanna talk about those other places to consider going.
[02:01:25] Unknown:
Okay.
[02:01:26] Unknown:
Yep. Ecuador, I'd say maybe El Salvador, Ecuador, Paraguay, Uruguay. That'd be the ones right off the top of my head.
[02:01:38] Unknown:
I haven't been to I've I've lived in Costa Rica for quite some time.
[02:01:43] Unknown:
Yes. Well, you know In the nineties. So I know about this. I know about Boy, different country now. The gringos have taken Yeah. Totally. Yes. And the Jews too. The Jews are over there real heavy too. Israelis.
[02:02:00] Unknown:
Yeah. They're all over Panama as well.
[02:02:03] Unknown:
Yeah. Panama, I mean, yeah. I wouldn't go to either one of those, Uruguay and Paraguay. Look around. I think I that guy, I think he's go to YouTube and put the international investor on, and he's pioneered this whole development down there. They've got it's just a really, really interesting thing that he's got going down there. So you may wanna look there if you it's flat. You know, just doesn't have any of the mountainous or the other terrain. Kinda flat, good agricultural land, nice people. And, so those would be the places I'd say look to. So thank you. I'll see y'all tomorrow.
[02:02:45] Unknown:
Ciao. Thank you very much. Thank you, Raj.
[02:03:01] Unknown:
You too, Paul. Thank you.
[02:03:04] Unknown:
Thank you, Corey. Well, if nobody's got anything else to say, I might as well take the stream down. Anybody got Try to get out. Something they wanna talk about?
[02:03:26] Unknown:
We got time to talk.
[02:03:29] Unknown:
What about what about The Philippines? I hear The Philippines is nice, and you can, you can pretty much, live very well with a modest US income. You know, like retirement and stuff like that. Turn in communist.
[02:03:54] Unknown:
Turn in communist. We're turning communist. We're turning communist. We're turning socialist.
[02:04:02] Unknown:
You know you know, Paul, the problem with Asia is there's a lot of good places. It's just very far for most people, the distance. So everybody had to come to to realize that, you won't come to USA for a long time if you have family or children or grandchildren. You wanna see them. So it all depends.
[02:04:23] Unknown:
And your preference of climate would be very important.
[02:04:28] Unknown:
Absolutely. And it's very costly to fly back and forth, and you gotta leave every 90 days.
[02:04:35] Unknown:
Yep.
[02:04:36] Unknown:
You know, in Aladdin country own property.
[02:04:40] Unknown:
In in Aladdin country, that's very I already said it many times before, underrated is Nicaragua and Central America. And you could go from Miami to Nicaragua with less than three hours. You are able, as Dave just said, buy property and, food to bury sheep. And it's, it was what is Costa Rica twenty five years ago. And, it has mountains flat and everything. But, of course, USA says it's communist country and politicians, but there's a good community there, even Americans. And most American that goes to, Nicaragua, they're looking for freedom. Most, American that goes to, Costa Rica, they're more with the mindset of a liberal in many times.
And, so you're looking for freedom, and you're able to adapt to the culture, and you want you want good cheap food and and organic and all this, and you could build your dog house without asking permits. I prefer Paraguay. The problem is Paraguay is too far, and you do have to pay higher airline tickets if you wanna come back and forth.
[02:05:53] Unknown:
What I was about to say about Germany when I got dumped by the staff was that I I met a new listener over there, a new classmate of the radio ranch from Rogers Sales, and and, they have a brewery in Idaho. Very interesting people, a very interesting name for the brewery, and, her father. Of of course, it's a woman owned business enterprise. Everything is women owned, women and minority owned. Came in 1976 with the local public works act of 1976 sponsored by Perron Mitchell, a black skinned man from Baltimore who raised his hand when they were handing out the money for the local public works act. He said, let's give 10% of this to minorities.
And he thereby changed the construction industry and changed the nation so that everything now is owned by women and minorities. Can you imagine the the plight that we're under now? There's there's no hope. And you saw it last night in New York City and other parts of the country.
[02:06:57] Unknown:
Stop participating in your own demise. Yep. I can just start with he he got a guy there. He got, some properties in Nicaragua. They're selling them, and they are affordable for the people that got money. You know? They not real spend it.
[02:07:23] Unknown:
Yeah. Because you have a good, expat with Nicaraguan that come back and and build their houses, like, American style. And but, you're able to live a good quality, lifestyle, and and a lot of them speak English if you can't speak Spanish. And, and they're very hospitable. They're usually hard work. Most most people that work in in Costa Rica are are Nicaragu immigrants, and they work in the farms and work in the business. So the middle class down in Costa Rica are usually are Nicaragu working, working class, over there. And so they are and they don't receive welfare, so they're used to it. You know, if everything goes downhill in The United States, countries like that that don't get anything, from their government. Usually, nothing happened. They're already used to it.
They're used to working for whatever they even their poor, they won't starve. And, anyway, compared to here, they will run out of food in forty eight hours in all the stores.
[02:08:40] Unknown:
Hey, Paul. This is Bruce.
[02:08:43] Unknown:
Hey, Bruce.
[02:08:47] Unknown:
Who would you, tell a cop or officer or a judge to call, to find out about National? You're not the same.
[02:08:59] Unknown:
Who would you tell them to call?
[02:09:02] Unknown:
Yes.
[02:09:04] Unknown:
Just Passport office. I don't know. What you should actually do is you should put the, NCIC on notice that you're a national, and then they would update the they would update the national crime information,
[02:09:30] Unknown:
database. What the fuck is that? I've never heard of that before.
[02:09:33] Unknown:
It's NCIS.
[02:09:35] Unknown:
NCIS. Okay. NCIS, National Crime Information Service, and they keep a master database of everybody in the country or around the world. And that is the database that all the police stations, police and sheriffs are connected to.
[02:09:56] Unknown:
So they can Can you put that in chat?
[02:10:01] Unknown:
It's just NCIS, National Crime Information Service. Just Google it. We don't have any contact information or any addresses for them.
[02:10:17] Unknown:
So they would know what I was talking about?
[02:10:21] Unknown:
Well, they would be the one they would be they would be the ones that, you would, put on notice, and then anybody that checked their database after that would see that you're an asshole and not a citizen.
[02:10:37] Unknown:
So so how do you put them on notice? Where are they at? Like I said I can look that up too.
[02:10:45] Unknown:
Yeah. Like I said a minute ago, I don't have an address for them or anything like that. Oh. That would be, like, one central place that could be put on notice of your status, and anybody that checked with them would I would find that out.
[02:11:04] Unknown:
Okay. When
[02:11:06] Unknown:
you do a search for NCIS, do a search for government agency, NCIS. Otherwise, you're gonna get just nothing but a bunch of links to the TV show NCIS. Just saying.
[02:11:22] Unknown:
Okay. And I and I think that all the fusion centers that we hear about are connected to that. They are the regional operations for that that agency, and they are the ones who read your emails, your texts without you knowing.
[02:11:46] Unknown:
Oh, okay.
[02:11:47] Unknown:
Wow. I'm I'm also getting a bunch of hits first for naval criminal investigation service.
[02:11:59] Unknown:
The navy?
[02:12:01] Unknown:
The Canadian Canada. Yes, sir. Wow.
[02:12:09] Unknown:
We need a list. Because I kept wondering where in the world are they gonna call somebody and find out about me as a national do not detain? Because it's been brought up many times in in the call, but nobody has ever said anything about it. Where you put where do you give them the call? So I just figured I better ask. Thank y'all. Well, it's pretty good. Thank you. You don't know it.
[02:12:43] Unknown:
I wanted to say, I wonder if we ought to notice the FBI and CIA and DARPA and the Naval Academy and the military and all everybody. Right? There's a plethora of them.
[02:13:00] Unknown:
How about God and Satan? State to be first and god be second, I think. Notifying.
[02:13:12] Unknown:
The principal.
[02:13:15] Unknown:
Well, if you noticed your, AG, your sheriff, and your local district attorney, wouldn't that be the natural place to go?
[02:13:24] Unknown:
I guess. I didn't know. You know, that's the whole thing. I didn't know. I got them all served. You know? And they all hadn't answered a question or come visit me or stop me or whatever. You know? And they don't I don't think they know what it is, actually.
[02:13:48] Unknown:
I like the nature. Spell it out for them.
[02:13:52] Unknown:
They what now?
[02:13:54] Unknown:
Spell it out.
[02:13:56] Unknown:
Oh, well, I did on my affidavit.
[02:14:02] Unknown:
Yeah. I don't like you said, I don't think they understand what a national is.
[02:14:07] Unknown:
Right. And I don't think they wanna know, to tell you truth.
[02:14:15] Unknown:
Or if they make the first effort, they're gonna end up in America Samoa.
[02:14:22] Unknown:
Well, see, that's the thing. You know, they think it's something else, which it isn't. It is part of The United States.
[02:14:34] Unknown:
Well, and and
[02:14:36] Unknown:
for this NCIS is naval, and I even put in National Criminal Investigation Service. And I'm still getting most commonly refers to the naval criminal investigation. And and and naval naval
[02:14:56] Unknown:
Wow.
[02:14:57] Unknown:
And and the NC and the National Criminal Intelligence Service was a United Kingdom policing agency.
[02:15:07] Unknown:
Oh, that means CIRCO might be involved.
[02:15:10] Unknown:
How about how about DMVs? Because I I'm I've I've when I first got here in Branson, I got an ID, and I, put an affidavit in the in the record, Send it to the headquarters. So that would be one of them. Right?
[02:15:33] Unknown:
I think it's NCIC.
[02:15:44] Unknown:
But, see, I don't think they know the DMV doesn't know any more than the patrolman. You know? Or I say unless they got, you know, interested in investigating me, what is this? You know? Because the lady that was at this, she said, we've never done this before. I said, well, this is not this is an affidavit. They need to have the affidavit in their hands whether they know it or not. I just always wonder what the heck where they call, you know, or what they need to do to find out about the, being a national. Because that's that's critical when you stopped on the road or going to court or whatever. You know?
[02:16:36] Unknown:
That's not how you I see is national crime information center to get information on criminals or missing persons. Or
[02:16:49] Unknown:
Well, we're all criminals. They think.
[02:16:54] Unknown:
Well, we think they all are. So so we're on mutual team there. Right? That's right. Yeah.
[02:17:01] Unknown:
The reason I mentioned NCIC is because I had a friend that got pulled over. I believe he had the wrong tag on the wrong vehicle or something of that nature, and they claimed they were gonna take his license plate and send it into NCIC, if I recall correctly. So that's why I mentioned that. Somehow, they're I felt like they were intertwined, and I could be wrong. I yield.
[02:17:38] Unknown:
Don't forget, enter, Paul.
[02:17:43] Unknown:
Yeah. There you go.
[02:17:48] Unknown:
I want to pop by the rock, Charles.
[02:17:54] Unknown:
Is Paul still on here?
[02:17:59] Unknown:
Mister Beaner?
[02:18:01] Unknown:
Yes.
[02:18:06] Unknown:
He's probably taking care of his cat.
[02:18:09] Unknown:
I hear you. Lisa,
[02:18:14] Unknown:
I sent you a link compliments of lady Linda.
[02:18:25] Unknown:
All the hardworking men taking care of a cat and us too.
[02:18:30] Unknown:
There you go.
[02:18:36] Unknown:
And answering phone calls from people that haven't been on the show in a long time.
[02:18:41] Unknown:
Well, there you go. There he is. I wanted to mention this is Paul from Kentucky.
[02:18:47] Unknown:
Hi there. I spent
[02:18:49] Unknown:
decades in the public relations and media world, and it keeps coming up for me. I do have, with my experience, an opportunity to really put this movement or the, you know, the stuff on the map. Unfortunately, I can't do it without any funding. I mean, it takes funding to fill your tank and go to events and, you know, get out in front of the public and things of that nature. So it does, you know, require some kind of funding. And I guess I just have no even though I've worked with over 300 acts that are arms lengths away from me, when I bring this up to folks in the movement, whether it's on the Rogers sales show or some other calls that I participate in, I just I I it's just like crickets. Like, you know, that nobody cares. So it it's odd when my car breaks down and somebody says, man, I I can fix that. I'm all about how can you do it? When can you do it? And, you know, I have brought it up a half a dozen times on different shows and at least once or twice on Rogers.
I couldn't talk earlier. I would have chimed in. But, you know, you guys are looking for a way. I have the way to to really get this out in mass quantities to the public where they would receive it. The majority would receive it. But I've gotta raise, you know, like a missionary going on a mission field. I've gotta raise some funding to be able to quit working my day job and and go out there and do this thing. And then that's when it becomes crickets. You know? Now if I was willing to self fund it and then just, you know, turn people over to all these people who have these calls and educational things, then everybody's all about it. I also have about $50,000,000 worth of private lawsuits going on that if I could close one of those, that would give me all the funding I need. But when I reach out to people, nobody has time to talk to me except this call here after the main call. Bruce and so many people have been helpful. But the challenge is I'm sitting behind the steering wheel, and I don't really have a chance to write stuff down. But I've tried to speak to some paralegals and some people and and try to talk to people off the show and whatever, and and it it's been a little difficult. So I yield. But I do have I do have a foolproof plan that could put this thing across the nation in about two to four years at the most that would would definitely make it happen.
[02:21:37] Unknown:
Do you think we actually have that time? All by myself. Do I? Do you think we actually have that time? Do you think we have two to four years? Yes.
[02:21:48] Unknown:
Yes and no. As long as Trump's in office, now is the right time. Now is when that tomato or that apple is ripe on the tree or ripe on the vine. He would I think I think with with with a good push in the right direction, Trump would get behind what we're doing. He's trying to do it himself, and he's getting shut down at every, you know, at every corner. So, yes, I believe we definitely have two years to get a jump start on this thing. I think after two years, if the momentum is created properly, no one will be able to stop the momentum. I've seen that megachurches. I've worked with, you know, building, organizations like John Maxwell and different things like that. So I have the experience. I have the knowledge. I'm as knowledgeable about this as Roger is at what he does or what you do or Mark does what he does or or what have you.
It just that for whatever reason, I bring it up and it just falls on deaf ears or people like, that's nice. And I mean, I don't even get somebody to inquire like, okay, Paul. What kind of funding would you need? Okay, Paul. When do you wanna start this? How are you gonna do this? What what what can we do to help you to do this? You know, how can we help you help us? You know, I don't get any of that. It just like so I guess I must not have very credibility, but if you ever went to my Facebook page, anybody from Lady Antebellum, the z z top, I've worked with in helping do public relations prior to COVID. So I have the knowledge of how to make big events happen, how to reach the masses.
Once you get a guy like Kid Rock on your team or Hank Williams junior, God forbid so many of people have died that would have been awesome like a Toby Keith or a Charlie Daniels. You know, this thing would just grow on its own. It would just it would take on its own momentum like rolling a snowball downhill. But for whatever reason, I brought it up a dozen times in different groups, probably at least twice, if not three times here, and it just,
[02:24:04] Unknown:
whatever. You know? Right. So Why don't why don't you why don't you write a song and get one of those artists to sing it?
[02:24:13] Unknown:
Right. You make a deal. Well well, Kid Rock did. He wrote a song if I was president, you know, and all the changes he would make. There's all kinds of songs out there talking about that. I mean You surely got them out to do it to do it. Do what now?
[02:24:35] Unknown:
You surely got the map to sell it.
[02:24:39] Unknown:
Right. I don't have the means. I gotta have the resources.
[02:24:45] Unknown:
You got a pencil, paper piece of paper and a pencil?
[02:24:49] Unknown:
I don't. I'm driving it, down the road, but, if if whatever you need Paul's got my email or I can email Paul when I stop. Yeah. And we could pass on this information. I'll tell you somebody who wrote a great song is, Wendell, what is his name? Oliver. And, he wrote a great song, published it on YouTube, and got a ton of recognition for it. And it it is totally in truce about this country, about people being three hundred pounds living off welfare because they're overweight. She did. And he's paying for it. And he's paying for it. You know? I don't remember the whole song off the top of my head. Feel it? But I just wanna put that out there again. I felt today would have been a great opportunity to to put it out there. And, unfortunately, I was tied up where I couldn't I couldn't, jump on the call and talk.
But, you know, I would definitely be in and I'm working on it on my own. I'm working on draw drumming up some support. But it's just it's just You know, it's kinda like, it's just kinda sad that I get more interest from people, you know, in the neighborhood or whatever than I do people who are passionate about this, like, people on this call. So, you know, I would love to be able to, you know, maybe talk to you or Roger sometime or Bruce or or maybe after the call, have a little meeting. But, yeah, I could get this thing done in two to five years at the most, just depending on how much funding I have and and how quick I can get after it.
And people want this, but, you know, nobody's, you know, making a, you know, a a an extended effort at the moment. I mean, we're all doing our part, which, like I say, this is the greatest call ever. I've said that every time I've been on here. So I yield. But, Bruce, if you have something you need to send me, I'm sorry. I'm not readily available with a pencil, but I can definitely get it through Paul if you email him or he can give you my email address. I'll I'll make sure you can have my contact. And any any ideas anyone has, I'm open minded to. But I could definitely get it done. And it's not just my mouth. It's my connections, my knowledge, how to make this thing happen.
We could rock it out.
[02:27:31] Unknown:
You know, if we could have only talked to, we could have only talked to, who is it, Wesley Snipes
[02:27:38] Unknown:
before the IRS went after him? Well, I think he did it wrong, didn't he? That's everybody brings him up. But I feel like from what I've listened to, he did it wrong, and everybody's trying to make an example. Well, I don't wanna do it like him. Well, you don't do it like him. Yeah. Yeah. He definitely has given this I wouldn't say he's given this movement a bad name, but what happened has sort of given this boot movement a bad rap. But, again, he didn't follow the rules, and and that's what happens when you don't. Just like if you're any of this stuff that we do. If you don't if you don't play by the rules, it it could get you in trouble and not yield.
[02:28:17] Unknown:
Mhmm. Willie Nelson is another one. Wish we could've gotten a hold of him in time.
[02:28:22] Unknown:
Oh, I I got a connection with him. I do have a connection with Willie. And Willie only paid the price to keep the peace. He didn't pay the price because he believed in it at all. He felt that was the biggest fraud and the biggest, you know basically, he was held at gunpoint. They robbed him is what he is the way he puts it. David Allen knows he feels the same way.
[02:28:50] Unknown:
They did rob him.
[02:28:52] Unknown:
Well yeah. But, I mean, that's what I'm saying. He he doesn't feel like he did something good for the country. He feels like they they just robbed him. But, you know, the good thing is is kinda like what I'm trying to what I'm wanting to do. You know, he got out there and the people got behind him and he raised that money. And, you know, he showed them that the people do care and the people don't believe in what you're doing, but but we're gonna pay you to go away like hush money. I yield.
[02:29:21] Unknown:
Right.
[02:29:22] Unknown:
Yep. So, I mean, he got his point across quietly and and humbly instead of, you know, going head to head. You know? So I I admire Willie for that. I really do. And his and his people admired him. His his supporters admired him. I yield.
[02:29:43] Unknown:
Okay.
[02:29:54] Unknown:
That's a good point too, by the way, Paul. Thank you for bringing that up.
[02:29:59] Unknown:
Mhmm.
[02:30:05] Unknown:
Ona, have you, presented any of this information to any of your contacts?
[02:30:12] Unknown:
If you're speaking to me, yes. I'm working on building a team of people here locally in the Kentucky, Indiana area. We've really gotten serious about it. We feel like Oregon is really working hard to restore the republic in Oregon, And so that's kind of got me excited about doing this. But as far as, anybody who hosts these calls, there's several different calls out there. You know, just in generalities bringing it up, nobody says a word. Nobody goes, wow. That's interesting. Really? Well, we need to talk offline or we need to, you know, you need to email me or whatever. It's just like, you know, you know, I mean, you know, I I I just I guess maybe it's the way I presented or the fact that nobody knows me or whatever. They just they don't even take any inquiry till today. Today, I feel like I've gotten the most interest, upon doing this. But, but, yeah, I'd love to I'd love to get out there and get this thing done.
There's tons of people, that are are very interested, and and I need to do it myself. I really I've heard I've taught I've been on 10 different calls, and I've heard 10 different ways to, get your American National set up. And so I don't even really know a 100% the proper way, but I need to do that myself. I need to I need to follow through and connect all the dots. Mhmm. I started down one road, then I stopped.
[02:31:51] Unknown:
Well, everything we do here is self funded. Everything. Yeah. Yeah. I've I've funded this for years. And now I'm finally to the point where where I'm breaking even, you know, with what I spend on the show. So, I mean Right. I,
[02:32:10] Unknown:
I this is this is really a movement And I don't I don't know what your budget is, but I'm saying this would take the this would go into the hundreds of thousands to travel across the nation, set up at these big events, do all this stuff. If if it was and I'm not saying you're discounting what you do, Paul. We really appreciate that. I mean, I'm telling you, I I appreciate it myself, and I didn't know it was self funded. But, I'm just saying it it it's not it's not cheap at all what I what the mission I wanna do. And if I don't do it that way, I won't get the recognition from these these Well other people. But Tell you what you do.
[02:32:53] Unknown:
You've got connected to all these guys that have that may have a nest egg or something like that that may want to fund you promoting this, then maybe that'll work. But as far as what I do with the show, it costs me $2,600 a year just to do what I do. Now that's an outgo. And people contribute using, using GoFundMe. People contribute, and it kinda works out in the wash. You know? Sometimes I spend more, sometimes I spend less. So that's the way things are going on. So if you know Kid Rock or if you know Willie Nelson or if you know somebody that's got a few bucks to throw at it that'll that'll line your pocket with it, more power to you, man. Go for it. But I don't think you're gonna get anything shaking any trees here from this core group because we're all in the same boat. That from this
[02:33:54] Unknown:
right. And I am not asking for that. And if if that's what you heard, I I wanna clean that up right now. What I'm saying is is that when I brought it forward before in all groups, they just kinda they don't say a word. They're not like, wow, man. You know these people. And the challenge I would have is it would be risky in my opinion to ask them to do that at this moment because these are more like people that if you're doing it, they'll come along and help. But they don't wanna be the only one stepping forward. And if if these groups don't get behind me, even just behind me, just to support me and say, hey, Paul. How's the fundraising going? Hey, Paul. What what you know, is there something I can do to help you get your American National so that you can teach others or whatever?
If that doesn't happen, well, then they're not gonna be interested because they're gonna be like, well, if those people aren't interested in helping you, why should we? Even if it's a good cause. And they and and and they are kinda cynical like that. Mhmm. I mean, the reason Willie got behind Farm Aid is because the farmers really needed them, and the farmers were getting a bad, bad, bad deal. So Willie stepped up and and did that. But the farmers also got behind Willie and and helped helped back. You know? So Mhmm.
You know, when Willie said, hey. I can help you. They didn't go, you know? And that's kinda what I've been getting on these calls. Although Bruce and and mister Garcia and so many people have been very helpful with my court cases, I can't thank them enough, and I appreciate that. I just I want to kinda put that out there and and see if if there's a heartbeat. You know? But I'm also a lot more excited about it now than I I ever have been. And I'm I'm building a team of five or six people that we're gonna try to do some fundraising and and and make it happen.
But, and and, you know, I'm gonna encourage you, Paul. Maybe from time to time, put it out there about what your expenses are. And $2,600 a year, I I'd be happy to help out with that, because I I appreciate all you guys do. I really do. And it was only $2,600 a year. I could get that funded pretty easy, but I'm probably talking about 260,000 a year.
[02:36:25] Unknown:
Yeah. I would I would I would rather not beg for money. I'd rather not ask for it. Well, not beg. You know? People Just just have a. Have a. Well well, let me finish. You know, people know that this costs money. You know? People know what the Right. This costs money. And my attitude is every time I ask for money, somebody would wanna give it but doesn't have it. And I would not wanna make them feel bad by asking for money. Yeah. So I don't do that. I never do that, unless unless I'm in a situation where where something's desperate or something could actually compromise the availability of the show if something was to Right. Like, if the computer was to go down or something like that. Yeah. And you need a brand new I got you. Okay. So then that would be the case. But as far as, you know I mean, I'll limit my grocery shopping trips to once every couple of months. I can do that.
You know? I Yeah. I see. I can, I can use LED light bulbs and and, you know, you know, watch the old electric bill? I can do that shit just to make room for the computer that runs this without having to ask for money. I'll just simply do with do without something else. It's not a big deal. Right. But like I said, I will not be asking for money unless it's absolutely desperate. I will not ask for money because I know that the great people in this group would want to send money. And if they couldn't afford to, it would make them feel bad, and I would never do that. So that's not gonna happen. Okay. So when you come when you come into this group talking about, well, there's gonna have to be fundraising. Well, ain't nobody here got a pot to piss in or a window to throw it out of. So even if you Yeah. Even if you mention fundraising. So even if you mention fundraising, people's eyes start glazing over, and they start kinda Yeah. Kinda leaning back a little bit, kinda trying to distance themselves from their own speaking. I see. So Thank you. That's where we're coming from. I'm just kind of explaining what goes on here.
[02:38:36] Unknown:
Right. Right. Well, it's good to know all that. It it definitely, I appreciate you, inform you know, sharing all that with me. It it really helps me out to better understand because, I I really appreciate this group and and some other groups are pretty good too as well. And and I guess I need to watch what I say too so that people don't misunderstand when I say that, you know, my budget to do this is gonna be 250,000, I'm not asking your group to pay for that. But I I'm just letting them know that I have a plan, and and the plane can work. And that's conservative. That that would be doing it on a very conserve and it sounds like a lot of money. But, you know, some of these places to host an event are $3,000.
But you might get three or 400 or 500 people who would be interested in, you know, and not interested, but would would be willing to do this or maybe even more. I'm just throwing out some numbers there. You know? Mhmm. So you know? Oh. And and that would be huge. That would be huge for this this movement if we could, you know, get, you know, 10,000 people a year or whatever. You know?
[02:39:52] Unknown:
I would suggest that, risks for people like this aren't gonna get any less. They're gonna get worse. But if you targeted people who are already in that risk category like a Stu Peters, who's got a big platform Mhmm. Maybe that would be a place to go.
[02:40:13] Unknown:
Yeah. No. I agree. And like you say, that's what I'm working on now. And, I'm glad Paul is giving me a wealth of information to move forward with. So I don't, whether it's accidentally or negligently step on people's toes or rub people the wrong way or give them the wrong impression, I'm not here to ask for money. I just like a little moral support.
[02:40:40] Unknown:
Mhmm.
[02:40:41] Unknown:
So but but I do understand now, Paul, a 100% why I'm getting the, why why I'm getting the responses I'm getting. The the button definitely went off, and I thank you for that.
[02:40:55] Unknown:
Yeah. There's there's just, there ain't no money. If there was money, that wouldn't be a problem.
[02:41:02] Unknown:
So I see your point of view, and I yield. I yield.
[02:41:06] Unknown:
Alright.
[02:41:08] Unknown:
Thank you. You're welcome. You probably don't get many people to thank you when you tell them everything they don't wanna hear, but you're absolutely correct. I yield.
[02:41:27] Unknown:
No. Thank you. Hey. Hey. Hey. Another quest question. Would you mind going over going over and on what you're, what you're present what just a tidbit of what you're doing doing.
[02:41:48] Unknown:
Well, my goal would be to, and and that's why I say I really need to do it myself. My goal would be to go out to restore the republic, and I would do that through big events like music events, motorcycle rallies, state fairs, any kind of a big event where I can get in, you know, to set up a booth and and educate the public on, you know, becoming American national, possibly setting up a trust if that's important to you, and what your god given unalienable rights are. And this this this the country is ripe for that right now. It really is. It's more ripe than we really know, but I think Mark said it best himself.
We're just not reaching the masses. And he's right. And we need to we need to, you know, we need to reach the masses, and and that's where, you know, my connections can come into play. And and once I I get the ball rolling and it's it's happened that way in the music business a thousand times. People, you know, musicians, they starve, they sleep on park benches, under bridges, whatever, and they don't give up, and then somebody reaches down and helps them. And so if I get out there and I'd be and I'd be loyal to this and do my due diligence, it will come. What's the old saying in Field of Dreams? If you build it, it will come. But everything that you all talk about on the show, there are people hungry for that. And I do my best to promote it, but I'm doing it at a very small scale. So if I could get out, reach out, and talk to three to 5,000 people a week at a bike rally or at a state fair or some kind of an event like that, you know, the awareness would just blow through the roof, which might cause another problem because I don't know the platform that you all operate on. We might overload it. You know?
[02:43:55] Unknown:
Know? Steve Steve Peters reaches something like 1,600,000 people. Some of his his regular cast are about forty, fifty thousand, and his, some of his hits have been up to 500,000, and he's not afraid to speak out. He is
[02:44:12] Unknown:
the tribe's number one target right now. So Now did he he passed away or no? Did I misunderstand
[02:44:19] Unknown:
that? You don't know who Stu Peters is, obviously.
[02:44:23] Unknown:
I don't. Yeah. You should look him up. I will. I will. I'll be happy to. And, obviously, he didn't he didn't reach me. So so that means there's still work to do out there.
[02:44:37] Unknown:
Well, he's been throttled by everybody because he's anti Palestine and Trump and stuff right now for not, you know, doing what he thinks is proper. I mean, he's a terrible critic of Trump. He's a terrible critic of our imperial status in all the rest of the world, including what we're getting ready to do in Venezuela. So he's not popular. Okay. He still has a lot of people that listen to him, and I think it's the kind of people I think it's the kind of people who would listen to this message.
[02:45:11] Unknown:
I got you. Yes. And you're probably right.
[02:45:15] Unknown:
So I'm gonna appreciate you. What about Jimmy Doar?
[02:45:19] Unknown:
Yep. That's the one That'd be another guy.
[02:45:22] Unknown:
That'd be another guy. Exactly. I mean, you know, look what what when Roger went on John b Wells, I think John, b Wells' ball shrunk, and, he, just sort of like, I don't think I wanna go there. We need somebody with some testosterone. I would suggest the the two gentlemen we just mentioned as being the kind of people that should be targeted with this message because they're already in that critical area. And and Doris does travel, the nation as a comedian. So he gets a a an in a national and international audience as well.
I don't know what his numbers are, but I'm sure they're probably in that area of the of Stu Peters.
[02:46:21] Unknown:
He has, he has 1.6, million subscriber in YouTube.
[02:46:28] Unknown:
Most of the people want free stuff. They don't wanna be free. You know? Yeah.
[02:46:34] Unknown:
That's right.
[02:46:39] Unknown:
Free is unnecessary because you have to be dependent on yourself. Free stuff.
[02:46:44] Unknown:
I want free stuff.
[02:46:49] Unknown:
I'll go pick it up.
[02:46:52] Unknown:
Well, if you can't get, Willie Nelson to write a song about nationals, you might try Jesse Wells.
[02:47:03] Unknown:
Free stuff.
[02:47:26] Unknown:
Stu's a good speaker. I mean, he, if he wants to lay it on, he can lay it on pretty heavy and be an on stop advocate for a cause. He's not shy. I'm I'm just thinking that, you know, this is the kind of person that would take the heat because he wants to get his country back.
[02:47:53] Unknown:
Yeah. He definitely is a bulldog. And what? He got kicked off the Alex Jones show. He can't go back there no more because of all the good things he was saying about those, or about the tribe.
[02:48:08] Unknown:
Yep. That's my point. I don't trust people like Jones. They're just not willing to speak out on one of the biggest problems we got.
[02:48:26] Unknown:
Yeah. Folks like Candace Owens and Tucker would be another good but there's a bunch of presenters out there that would all I mean, everybody could fare well on this on this, platform. They just don't see it. I don't it's good behind well, people are where they're at, I guess. There's nothing you can do about it. But I I think from from a public relations standpoint,
[02:48:55] Unknown:
dropping the national is probably wise and going to a Californian or a state citizen because people can wrap their minds around that. And just explain that that's what we were prior to the civil war. We were state citizens. We weren't a federalized one group. We're all individ you you just The United States Of America. Right? And United was that lowercase prior to the civil war and upper after. Just point details like that. I the the national thing is too hard to educate people on, And it they've got it hidden so well in the American Samoan and everything, you know, to tell the story about, you know, Lee telling Lincoln that his country is in the Confederacy, and he can't fight for the union.
[02:49:58] Unknown:
It was a state, Virginia.
[02:50:01] Unknown:
That was a nation. Yeah. What exactly. That people can understand, but they this national thing, I think, is very difficult to explain to people. I think it's better that we go with state citizen and and point out the the time period that it changed.
[02:50:23] Unknown:
Somewhere. It's not that hard because I don't even from here, and I understand it. You know?
[02:50:30] Unknown:
Yeah. Understanding it. Are two different things, Rory. To prove the national is much harder, in my opinion, than proving this state citizen. We've got the cases that point out the state citizen. We don't have any cases that point out the national. And And they need to be a rebel. To rebel or gonna want to know that and wrap their heads around it. We can't even agree on this show what a national is half the time. So
[02:50:56] Unknown:
Well, you just described what a national was. And and and and South Carolina, my ancestors met as a community. All the people in the community voted on succeeding from the nation. We brought up the document, presented it to the legislative branches of South Carolina, and they accepted it. And that was the first Confederate state. We did it. Abby Billings did it. Samuel. That's That's part of it. Go
[02:51:26] Unknown:
ahead. One way that I have been able to approach people is I try many different ways. And I used to work with a public relation. And, it's getting the passport, and I show them it's two different, citizens. And when you say citizen slash national, that opens their eye because there's something physical, a a passport. But when you try many other ways, it's really hard. And that really I have been able to get into conversation. They start asking me more details and all that. But the problem I see is the nation. Most of the people are ingrained into the system, and they don't wanna let it go.
They don't wanna go let go of their lifestyle,
[02:52:07] Unknown:
their debts I or whatever. Jesse, I used to use that as an example, and I think you're right still. I think for what we're talking about here for public relations, to talking to a crowd, like, that might be viewing a Stu Peter show. I think if you get down to the simpler basis of it and not the new one that they've created and stay with the old state citizen, I think that's wiser. That's all. As as far as clarity and understanding it.
[02:52:43] Unknown:
Yeah. I sort of agree with you. We gotta get that. But it's really hard. You know, when when somebody calls here and, and and their first, time is I'm not saying that's a wrong thing, but there's a what do I have to do to, get me out of the tax system. You know, to me, that gets me really creepy because the reason that you wanna become a natural is freedom. And, obviously, the income tax and all this is not paying. It's part of your freedom. But, it's just I don't know. It's the underlying reason that you wanna is to be under God and and you are a true speaker and and you wanna be free. And then everything else is a bonus. I understand that, but it's just the wrong way to look at things.
You desire. You want to be free. You don't want nobody to tell you. You wanna be under God. It's just the moral decay. People don't understand me the word conserve, conservative, and other things. It's just really hard to get through them. And they've been, hook link with this, democrat and republican. You know, one's liberal and one's conservative. And if you don't vote to the conservative side, you're not conservative. They don't even know what they're saying. It's just really tough. It's tough. When you're trying to explain what national is, it's like it's like an alien to them. So we do need something that looks official like Jimmy Dore or Peter Stewart or something, a high media something. When they see it through that media channel, then, oh, it must be true. And then probably if they're really looking.
Or they have to lose everything. The country have to lose that. The economy has to go collapse completely, and then they start looking somewhere else.
[02:54:32] Unknown:
Yeah. It'd be good to have a little bit of foundation prior to that. Even if the if these attempts fail, it's still a seed planted.
[02:54:45] Unknown:
Well, one thing they need to find out is how powerful the the affidavit is. That is the the the, bologna be in the sandwich. You put the affidavit out there, and you got it made, and you get a different feeling. I mean, totally different feeling than I ever had in anything I've ever done in in law. Even getting judges off the bench. I felt free when I did that. I need the powerful the power that had, and it energized me. I just I when I saw that affidavit, I said, man, I know about that. I I did it right then and there. I didn't waste my time. But it took me twenty years to get there.
[02:55:29] Unknown:
Bruce, let me tell you a little story that just happened to me this week yesterday, in fact. I'm smoking for my first time, a Cuban cigar celebrating with tobacco. And, we have a various little young little boys and girls, and they were born and national birth, no hospital, no birth certificate, and so on and so on and so on. And then some family members and neighbors and all, church members, all this, The when we're gonna apply for the passport, they thought we were crazy because you gotta have your birth certificate and all this stuff. And, you have prenatal care, and, if they see a doctor, blah blah blah, Especially what happened to us, and some of you know our story.
But, we we apply, and they're all basically applied within the same week. And they got, took long. It took about nine months to get them. Alright. At the begin at at the beginning, it was hard for them to get their passport. Yeah. But one of them got lost over two years and a half. We've been to three regional force general. We've been to three regional, past four agents. We inquire in that number they give dozens of times. We have sent paper. We have sent thirty day notice with timelines and everything and so on and so on. Finally finally, it looks like the law says we sent, thirty day notice, to the the one that was processing us in Arizona. Mhmm. We sent it to, Marco Rubio, and we sent it to the one in Washington, DC.
Nothing worked. And then finally, we had to we went about a month to a month ago, we went to, one of the senators and saying, you know, nobody answered us. Nobody this and this. And, in forty eight hours, we got an answer. Okay. Thank you. So they inquired for us. I have to, get some documents and all this to make this story a little bit shorter. Then we went again. We're able to cancel. Oh, we lost all your paper. It's a lie. They just didn't wanna do it in Arizona. So they just just have two years. We have everything certified, mailed, and all these things. And, so they canceled it, and we wanted to cancel it. And we went back to another regional, passport now in person. We don't trust no more mailing or or have interaction with them to mail or calling that gatekeeper calling number they give passport.
And we went there. And the reason I'm telling you this story, the passport agent, Natalia, we went in there. They started to say, well, have they have a prenatal care. Has, he'd seen a doctor, that little baby, of course. And, now he's basically two and a half years old. And and, has he taken the vaccine? And that was really creepy. So what what do you mean? I'm just applying. You are you taking the vaccines? And we just stay firm, and we say the only thing you need to know is your national paper is here. Here's the the documents you need without birth certificate.
Here's the Social Security under pressure. He does have one. And here are the eyewitness of three different affidavits. Eyewitness that's all. Most people don't understand the power of the affidavit. They have a form of that. And we're getting three eyewitness with other person say, and they try to delay or not. No. We want it now. Well, you have to come, two days from now at 02:30. We don't call you, and we got the passport. It was really hard. Freedom has a cost. We have to spend money, time losing a job, traveling twelve hours to a different regional, calling, sending the it's hard, but that affidavit made the difference without a person.
[02:59:32] Unknown:
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[03:00:51] Unknown:
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[00:02:17] Unknown:
Yeah, Paul. It's, it's not often we get to start off the show like this. Remember, remember the November 5. It's too bad I didn't on a Thursday so you folks could, kick that one around. Good morning, Wednesday, November 5. Roger Sales and the Radio Ranch here, and, we're here to see if we can find people that wanna be free. So, if you are looking to be free, you found the right spot. Put your seat belt on and sit tight. Mister Paul, who we got joining us today?
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Hey, Raj? Yeah. We'd like to come on forward. We'd love to change your life. Hey, Paul. Well, I guess the big, alright. First of all, let's just do this. If there are any new people that are looking to relocate because of yesterday's elections or whatever, that we're here for, you. And, we get up every day and gather here, in in hopes, really, I think that we get new students, because you are the lifeblood of what we all do. You're when you come forward and start learning and moving forward, you strengthen all of us. All of us wanna help you should you have any problems. I think we've simplified it enough. There's I I mean, there's some things that are complex, but they're not too hard to understand by any means. And, so that's what we are. So we're here for you. If you do have a question or comment, we had a new guy yesterday, RJ, I believe.
And, we've had several new folks lately. It's just fantastic. So, should you want to get a question answered or simply introduce yourself, and say hi to the family here because that's what we are, we'd love to meet you. Otherwise, we're gonna talk about current events, and, political things and whatever else anybody wants to talk about, really, as long as it's not traffic tickets in court. Yeah. Just because there's no there's so little consistency there. Otherwise, drive safely, drive under the speed limit. You wanna be a national and free that brings on personal responsibility, and that applies to that area.
So, anyway, I don't think we've got any new folks, do we? If you do, a star six and high or otherwise, I'm gonna give you a shot, and we're gonna move on to talk about how many people are leaving New York. Okay. Doesn't seem to be any newbies out there. Let's let's give him a chance to speak up. You know, he Well, I'm kinda dilly dallying. Well, I'm dilly dallying around here waiting for him to do that.
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Well, they try you know, they but you're talking, Rog.
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Well, they well, I'm giving them a pause. I'm giving them a pause, Paul. And, you know, so I you you could have dead air here. Most of the days, we don't have new people, really. But, we roll through stages, you know, around here. If we if I get an interview request or something, we hit a new person, and we'll get that whole bunch like we got with Todd, who we still hadn't heard from. Mary in that group. So anyway anyway If you're wanting to say hi, please do. Please do. Cheek up, star six. No. No. They they probably nobody knew today. They're still crying in the corner because of the elections yesterday. I didn't realize that it ran, went across so many states yesterday.
There was a bunch of states, that Texas being won. I think California was one, had this off year election deal. Pretty interesting. Mondavi, I believe that's his name. Right? The the Muslim, he did get elected in New York City, together. Now an interesting thing, of course, I was watching Brianna this morning, and, Brianna is very lovely to watch. I mean, that's a nice thing to wake up into the morning is a lovely lady like her, so professional and proficient at her job. And she's a New Yorker, grew up, a Mormon, raised on Long Island, I guess. And she had left a couple years ago when it started getting real funky.
And originally, she went down to Boynton Beach, South Florida. Stayed there for a couple years now. She's out in Texas. But she said something in relation to this phenomena of people leaving. They're projected to be 700,000 people leave or something. I've heard, Paul. I don't know how accurate that is. Excuse me. Anyway, when she first moved to Boynton Beach five, six years ago, maybe something like that something like that, her apartment was one bedroom, a proficiency apartment was $1,500 a month. Then it went up to $2,500 a month as the Florida onslaught continued.
And she checked, and they're 3,000, and they're probably gonna get higher now. So if you're leaving New York and want to go to South Florida, I hope you're well funded.
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Yeah. You better leave quick. And But, I mean, that's that matter. Chicken feed. That's chicken feed compared to rents in New York because you can get Well 600 square feet for $3,000 a month in New York City.
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Mhmm. Well Well, maybe there's comfortability there. I had not thought about that, but maybe so maybe so. For us poor layman, it seems like an awful lot to live down there in Hurricane Alley. But, regardless and we had, we had some just very interesting things this morning of After Effects, Texas. Texas. Let's see if I can remember this. Texas voted voted that illegals have to be citizens of The United States to participate. But they didn't vote a law that said that it made them to required to present an ID. There was an already existing law that said you need to have a ID, but if you don't have an ID, you can come in with a utility bill or a couple other things.
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Residents.
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Yeah. I it's just the whole thing is so wacky, man. We talked about voting and participating this week, and, I still feel that, you know, locally, it may be something that our people wanna participate in. I'm not gonna tell you to do anything. I didn't tell you to file the paperwork. Okay? I want you to make those decisions, but it would seem that since that saying has been I remember since I got into this, I wasn't all that aware of politics. I was interested, but not aware. Certainly not to the participatory, level, but all politics is local.
Okay? Comment. Who oh, boy. Joe, is that yes. You messing with the star six. Hey, Joe. I don't think they had an election in Oklahoma, did they?
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No. But just quick comment to show you how much of an idiot Abbott is in Texas. He made the comment that he was gonna put now think about it too on this. He's gonna put a 100% tariff on anyone that emigrates out the New York into Texas.
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Yikes. He's gonna tariff the states.
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Think about that. How can you cut tariff?
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Stupid. I don't well, I don't know. Abbott's done some real stupid things. He parades around as a How about that? Conservative, and he's not too conservative from what I can tell. He's always got these slippery deals on the back end of everything. He the one thing I didn't like I didn't like Do what, Joe? Do what, Joe? He can't be a member of the World Economic Forum and be a good guy. Well yeah. And and he's got the boycott on anybody, you know, the fine on anybody that boycotts Israel or says anything about him or no boycott diversity, sanctify BDS, or any of that stuff, or they get some kind of an administrative punishment.
I thought he was a snake for a long time. I didn't even know he was a member of the WEF, but that figures that figures. It'll be interesting to see if Texas toes the line on replacing the AG that's so good so good, whose name I can't think of right at the moment. It's running for senator. He's gonna run against the Bush senator. Ken Patton. Ken Patton, who's the best AG in the country. He's gonna step up and run against the Bush senate guy, Cortland, or something like that. But hopefully, we'll replace him with a good one. So we'll see. I remember him saying when he beat Doc Cornyn.
Yeah. Yeah. Cornyn is the guy that's in there now. It's real shaky. I remember him saying when he won that, they were trying to impeach him, and he won. And he was being interviewed by somebody. He said, well, I got 700 attorneys on staff. Woo. That's a that's a battery of lawyers coming after you. Okay? So, anyway, hopefully, that unless see, I don't know that I heard of Virginia. We got any of our Virginia folks. Julie on this morning with the one the Sheinberg, the gal that she went. Hi.
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Hi. Oh, yeah. We got, we got I already knew it rigged. We got Abigail Abigail Stanberger, ex CIA, sponsored by Barack Obama, Barack Obama, Pete Butt Plug, ActBlue, so Soros's organization, although they say it's not his, yes, it is. He donates through them. LinkedIn cofounder Reid Hoffman, Black Entertainment Television, Sports Betting Alliance and others. And then you got the new Indian born, you know, Ghazala Hashmi, who's the Lieutenant Governor, sponsored mostly by Planned Parenthood who loves organ harvesting and Ray Cousins who's into the LGBTQRSTUVW exit YCRAFT.
And then, you know, it's, again, horrible, horrible news, but that election was totally rigged.
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Wow. Well, I always heard Virginia was for lovers.
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Not for those types.
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How ugly. Boy, Virginia went south right down the tube, didn't it?
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Yep. So you got the CIA The whole world is. The whole world is. Look at the states. Look what they're doing. They're rigging it for the rigging it for the new world order.
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Unbelievable. Well,
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kind of speechless. Welcome. You too. Border. We are it's great that yesterday. We already have communism.
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Might not be as bad as China yet, but we already have communism here. And it's coming here for a long time. Come on. They've been there for a long time. They've had the 10 blanks of communist manifesto inter instituted there for decades. It's nothing new.
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Yeah. I sent, I sent Sam UL and I text, and I wanted to let you know that 20 I sent them yesterday. 20 United States states have signed a treaty to arrest and reeducate citizens who criticize Israel.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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And Netanyahu on that cup has faced the cover of that article.
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20, Paul. Which states?
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I don't know that they I don't have that list in front of me. I don't have that list already, but I can have it for
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you by hand the call. Your home state's probably one of them, big boy. Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. Wisconsin, Illinois, Oregon, Washington, California, possibly Arizona, New York. Mexico. I knew I would without a doubt, I was working my way east. But, the the usual culprits, you know? Yep. And it may be those in the playoffs. Well, listen. The logical thing for all this may be that the country splits up. The problem is you give them their blue states, and they're so inept that the things will end up like South Africa. And then they're gonna come wanna invade your state that you've built up properly, runs efficiently, and everybody's pretty happy. And that's the problem is they want they want you to be unhappy.
Yes.
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You you wanna know who, it promote who, spawned who promoted this list and who put the whole thing out? Our buddy on the People's Voice, Sean, who's always on the Alex Jones show. Who? I don't I don't know who that is. People's voice. I can't remember his last name. Somebody's gotta help me out here. I I just I still don't recognize it on there. The People's Voice. They don't remember me. I'll get his last name. Yeah. I'll get his last name. He's he owns the the broadcasting group called the People's Voice. Okay. That's Lisa.
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Yeah. That I know of. Anyway, so while Julie is looking for that, let's see if we can go on. Do anybody in the audience got anything that tickled or prickled them particularly yesterday you'd like to bring forward or something you gotta burr under your saddle about something else?
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I don't know. I I'm thinking that Upstate New York has been talking about, separating themselves from, New York City for a long time, and now there's I can believe it. No better time to, no better time for, for count for counties to band together and form a new state. You know, let New York City,
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you know Yeah. Well, we've had those initiatives. We had that fella call in the other day from Oregon. It's in that area on the Eastern Part of Oregon that wants to go up and join Idaho. So, yeah, those are those little movements, and the California wants to split up and have real California and give the rest to Gavin Newsom. So, pretty interesting, man. We move forward. We'll see what the repercussions of this are.
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Has has anyone heard any more, progress or any more information on the western provinces of Canada that are saying that they wanna be the fifty first through fifty fourth United States? The all the West all the West of Canada is just completely Well They're completely done with the liberal, Central And Eastern Canada, and they want no more of it. Well, I imagine The US.
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Now is that from Alberta West all the way over through BC? I'm forget Yeah. I remember Saskatchewan is in there or to the East or whatever. I don't either. I just remember that it's the fourth
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it's the four western most provinces of Canada.
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Well, you want all those Chinese that have moved up there to Vancouver and totally screwed up their local economy? I don't know if they want BC. It's beautiful. Okay? But I with that, they've been invaded. I certainly know that the Alberta folks would be a good addition for us.
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Right. Well, that's where most of the the material wealth is of Canada. I mean, the shale oil reserves, you know, all that stuff up there. I mean Correct. The Western provinces have been funding the entire I mean, it's like The United States, like the South versus the North again, but only it's East versus West now because the West has been funding the country for all intents and purposes since the beginning. And I don't know what the hell is gonna happen to the East if the West does join The US. I have no idea.
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So Well, they do have to rely on, maple syrup, I guess.
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I have family that lives in, British Columbia. Uncles and cousins and stuff. Well, not uncles anymore. I think they've they've, passed on, but I've got cousins and stuff in Vancouver. And my grandma on my mother's side lived in Penticton, British Columbia. Beautiful house. Little itty bitty thing. And I've got a lot of relatives on the West Coast Of Canada. A lot. Well, BC From where did they go? From province.
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Yeah. Well, I'm at Vancouver, I guess, in San Francisco, rival for the most beautiful cities in the hemisphere, really. But but the Chinese, as you know, have just gone over there in hoards. They've driven the real estate market. It's totally bizonkers, haven't they, Tom? Tom, when they get
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And if you're gonna if you're gonna try to bring Canada in, gotta wait until, the the Eastern Side Of Oregon secedes to Utah because they're so disgusted with it.
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Well, that'd make a big old state, wouldn't it? Yeah, buddy. How are you doing this morning? Yeah. Well, it's very, very
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go ahead. Just a moment. Start hearing the, I'm waiting to hear the call to prayer, you know, speaker soon. You know, the way the, way that the they are just expanding like rats. But I have friends in New York who just told me this morning that if they're they're thinking of moving the hell out now because of Mondani and, you know, are they gonna when when is he gonna implement Sharia law? That's what I'm waiting for. Then these people are gonna realize. Now they're chanting DSA instead of USA. Pretty sad. Democrat socialist America. Yep. Yep. Pretty pretty sad time. Really screwed up.
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They got one running in or they got one running in Atlanta of all places also. I don't think it was Oh, they're all over the place. Next year. They're really trying to take over politically.
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And then they make the attorney general of Virginia the guy that threatened to kill a senator. Oh, you know, this I almost think that this shutdown may have backfired on the Republicans, you know, trying to prove that it wasn't it wasn't the Republicans that caused the shutdown. It was the Democrats, but I think it's blew up in their face after the elections last night.
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Well, I think Schumer and them are ready to after the elections to open the thing back up, but we'll see. It just I heard that this morning laying in bed. There was a very good guy in the second hour after the bottom of the hour, the first segment, about fifteen minutes, one of your, Texas legislators was on with Brianna this morning. And, boy, he's really sharp. And and he was the one that was picking apart some of these things I was reflecting earlier about the non you know, you have you have to have, be a citizen of The United States to vote. But if they ask you and you don't have an ID, you got other things you can fall back on. So all this kind of screwy stuff, talking bad about Abbott and some of those things, you may wanna go back and listen that fifteen minutes. He's a real good, good, representative, I would say.
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Yeah. Well, they're, they're building a huge, Muslim community outside of Plano. In Plano. Yes. They actually they're, yeah, they're actually built naming the streets in Arabic. After yeah.
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After, you know, after what? You know?
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They're naming the streets after off the top of my head. I can't say it. Yeah. After Arab
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Arab conquerors. Arab war heroes. They see their name in the streets after.
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I after the nine eleven hijackers.
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Boy, I can tell you something else. Brianna had a guy from the Blaze on this morning, and they're really digging deeper in, coming up with a lot of new information on Jan six. That's never been brought out before. He went over a bunch of it here this morning and,
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they have have gone through the seized Trump's phone and his phone records.
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Back then, I guess. Anyway Yeah. In 2020. Yeah. He was coming back, with they've looked at film that nobody's seen before and stuff. And what they've got is they don't call they call them non lethal weapons. What what is that? Rubber bullets and beanbags or stuff like that? And it's not and they don't well, they don't even call it a rifle. They call it a launcher that launches these things. And what they have found is all these guys that are trainers for nonlethal weapons were the ones that were up there shooting the lethal weapons. And they know and tell in their in their training that they're not to be aimed at heads, throats, eyes, gonads, etcetera.
And, and the the in the training, they go, unless you wanna start a war. And that's exactly what they were doing. They caught them on film gathering before anything else at 06:30 in the morning, packing their backpacks up with all these implements and got them, firing at people with them, these trainers. It was a very interesting segment over there the first part of, the second hour with Brianna. And a lot of this stuff, he had a whole bunch more you just didn't have time to get to. So, many of these things are starting to come out. I guess you can see now why they were so fanatical about not getting Trump elected.
Just the chance that some of this stuff's coming out and, man, it's starting to come out. You know, they got indictments flying all over everywhere. They got these researchers like this and, even the the pipe bomber that was such a big mystery, and all that stuff. Some of that type of stuff's coming forward, man.
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So Yep.
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Yep. God bless them. You know? At least we're getting somewhere. Okay? Even though there's all kinds of backfill like the elections and some of the results.
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But, yeah, they pretty well controlled. Plane that crashed?
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I did not. What about it? Shit. Shit.
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And it's in Saint Louis. It just it crashed on takeoff. Looks like, from the from the picture, you can see, it looks like it it lost an engine on takeoff, which is the worst time you could ever have an engine failure, and it just couldn't get it just couldn't,
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get out to
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hit a hit a building hit a building and then just major, major fireball. I mean, the thing is fully loaded with fuel, and it was just it just looked like a bomb went off. And, Well, I haven't seen that yet. Video footage of it. Yeah. What's it then? I hope you didn't hear that. Morning? Yes.
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Did it happen this morning? Yeah.
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Yeah. This early this morning.
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Well, speaking of aeronautics and stuff, they may have to start closing down airports today. There may be some total flight, especially Newark, and I I can't remember some of the other ones. Well, it's because they're having failures. A lot of stuff, there's not people to come fix the failures, and and it's just running into, potentially a lot of big problems. They're talking about totally closing them. Whether they will or not, whether Schumer will come to the table today or not, we'll just have to wait and see.
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Yeah. Yep. It's all going to hell in a hand basket, and it's actually on an electric hand basket.
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It is. It's just a whole bunch of stuff. That it's a hell of a time to be alive, Tom. We're racing towards something. And, it's Yeah. It's racing towards something. Alright. It it was almost like physics that, you know, first, classical physics formula, immovable object and an irresistible force.
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I'm hoping my, hoping my truck driver friend Jay is, tuned in and listening this morning while he's driving. And, I hope you are, mate. Are, AJ.
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Yeah. So if you're listening, you know, welcome. Absorb it. If you got questions, you can either ask directly, although I'd rather you keep your eyes and attention on the road, or you can have Tom ask, any of that kind of stuff. So, it doesn't have do we have a real big go down. Do we have a big audience today? Is everybody mourning over the election, or what's what's going on? 46.
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I think it was 46 when I logged on. That's about that's about you. And that's just yeah. Well, sometimes it's fifty and sixty.
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Yeah? Yeah. We're
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we used to have we have time to get close. Doesn't include all the people that are just listening, not logged in to the Right. They're listening over a traditional or the
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the broadcast band widths. Yeah. Yep. It's 60 We're up to 53. Oh, alright. Okay. Well, cool. Love you guys. Glad you're with us. Alright. I'll bow out and listen. Well 53. If nobody else wants to talk, you can come back and we'll yak about something. Do what Paul now that you're trying to tell us? 63?
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53 in free conference call. And, don't have any views, reflected in rumble yet. At least that's on k. On my page. Let me refresh the page. It'll give me new numbers.
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So, this, 10. All these Indian drivers and Sikh drivers of 18 wheelers from having wrecks seems to be coming to the surface and becoming an issue. And that that that's really good. I just can't imagine being in The US and what life must be like up there, these days. Certainly nothing that I would remember. Yeah. So there's Larry right there speaking of truck drivers. Hey, Larry.
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Hey. Good morning. So that plane that went down is a u it it was a UPS plane filled with 20,000 packages, 38,000 gallons of fuel, and it it it went down after it reached a 175 feet, and there's already nine fatalities being reported.
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Sorry to hear that. Wow. Yes. It was a thing that was
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It was fueled to go to Hawaii.
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Oh. Where'd it go down in California? Saint Louis. Louisiana, Kentucky. Oh. Kentucky. Wow.
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That's a long trip. Yikes.
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Sure is. Yikes. Well, I'm so sorry to hear that fatalities and all and, part of, did the did the engine just stop on takeoff, Paul? Did they you said they lost an engine. One of them didn't, like, fall off. They it just went dark. Is that what happened?
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It was a full power, Roger. He was on takeoff. He got a 175 feet into the air, so they say. But it was a max tower takeoff with that kind of a fuel load stuff.
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Wow. From the video from the pictures, it looked like the engine was, on fire. I mean, you know, I've seen it just looked like it was crapping itself. I mean, I've seen engines get you get one little piece of something in a fan blade engine and it will just for better term crap itself. And this one piece hits another, and that breaks, and then that breaks, and then it just you just the whole engine will just come out the tailpipe. And I've seen that in military jets, and, boy, what a mess.
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Oh, it's testing the bird. As they unravel it. Yeah. Bird will do it too. You know what they do here? Yeah. It depends. You know, we're up at we're up at 8,000 feet here. The airport's about 8,000. And when the jets are coming in to keep the birds away, they release raptors. You know, bird bird birds of prey, and the birds of prey drive the birds out out of the way for the jets. But you can look up and see if there's a jet landing by seeing if the bird if the raptors are up there. So you know what I'm talking about raptors, eagles, hawks, etcetera. Right? Man, do I do we am I is somebody there?
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Do we go down there? I was I'm I'm just getting the the total on Rumble. We've got 12 people on Rumble. John's over there. He just he just said hi. Because Sarah wave.
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John, would you please come No. It's it's not John Casarab. It's another John. Oh, okay. Hey, John. Well, yes, ma'am. Of course.
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Hello, miss. I
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that the the number of that UPS plane that went down was the same amount of victims that they declared, for 09/11.
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Yeah. You were clipping a little bit. You said the same fatalities are the same as 911?
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Yes. Number of the plane, 2976.
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Oh. Oh. 29.
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Isn't that a coincidence?
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God. God. You couldn't you couldn't add a better character into this little plot than Dick Cheney demise yesterday, could you?
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Right? Well, it was all a tribute. Yeah. Everything was around 09:11. It was all basically and who knows when he really died, but, yeah, they they'll use the numbers and yep. Mohammed Ali Airport.
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Yikes. Yikes. I can't imagine living in The States these days, folks. I mean, really. Thank you, Muse. Kind of a strange day. I was hoping Mark might be with us today, but, obviously, parents took a little higher priority, which is fine. Alright. Sure do, babe. Well, there he is right there. Hey, Mark.
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Yeah. It just popped on. I won't be able to stay on very long, but, I just shared a really important video I would really strongly recommend everybody watch. It was Harrison Smith from last night on the war room on Infowars. Yeah. And I tell you what, it was a really eye opening, what I want to call it, rant or dialogue that he had going. And just what I they're just really showing how the Trump administration and the Republicans are are dropping the ball politically. And so, you know, especially after last night's, elections, you know it's pretty ugly and if if they don't stop the this when I say democrats I'm not talking about the voters I'm talking about the party but this democrat party is just ruthless and they're doing everything they can to get back in power.
And I thought Harrison had some really great insight on what could be done. And that if we don't do it because we're just the nice guy with the white hat, then we're gonna we're gonna end up on the short end of the stick. So well anyway I would if you're interested in that kind of of insight and discussion I would highly recommend going over there. The link I have is for the the General Shepherd channel on Rumble and what he does is he records their videos cuts out the commercials except for where they're live and you know haven't plugging a product but they don't have the you know you don't have all the other commercials that that they run on on Infowars.
So that cuts it down to about two and a half hours. The other thing too if you're watching it on your phone you pull up rumble on your phone and got the video up usually somewhere either in the upper corner or bottom corner there's three little dots If you tap on that it'll open up the settings and what I do is I go down and I select the lowest resolution which is usually three sixty and then I speed it up. I normally can go 1.5 and I can understand it still and especially if they're you know a little slower talking so either 1.25 speed or 1.5 speed and you're not having to you know sit there and listen to two and a half hours.
And the other thing I like about it too rumble you can turn off your screen on your phone and it doesn't stop the video from playing so if you're out working or driving or whatever you can still listen to it with the screen off. So it's pretty cool. Now on your desktop there's a little gear icon which is the settings. You click on that in the video frame or just below the video frame and you can do the same thing go in take the resolution down to the lowest and then play it at a faster speed. So your your mileage may vary, but try it out. I would again, I'd strongly recommend listening to, last night's war room with Harrison Smith.
[00:39:09] Unknown:
I yield. Well, let me ask you something, Mark. Don't yield off yet. Here we've got this powerful, powerful weapon, and we can't get people's attention for it. So, how are you gonna get that those people's attention that they've got this thing so conditioned response. And people have been lied to so much about so many different things. They don't know what to believe. And so, but and here we've got absolute proof. It's proven. I can show it to you, explain it to you how it works, and you see the progress we've been making where it should be just the opposite. So I don't think it's the message.
[00:39:48] Unknown:
I think it's Well, Roger, we we're not getting the message out. We're we only have individuals. Well, let me give you example. The the gentleman right here in Oklahoma, he got a nice refund. He's showing family members and co workers a copy of his check, the ones that show any kind of interest, you know, shows them a shows them a copy of his refund which is was seriously a nice refund. Right? And they're like, oh, oh, well.
[00:40:23] Unknown:
You know, they they Oh, well. Wait and see what happens to you.
[00:40:27] Unknown:
Yeah. Right. Right. Exactly. They're they're thinking the other shoe's gonna drop.
[00:40:32] Unknown:
So Mark, don't forget the best form of advertising in the world's mouth to mouth. That's why I encourage I could vent you literally But you don't get numbers that way.
[00:40:42] Unknown:
You know? You really don't it's hard. I mean, if you look at the people who are successful, like, you're talking multi level marketing
[00:40:50] Unknown:
type of Kinda. That that concept, actually. Yes.
[00:40:55] Unknown:
Yeah. Well, if you look at the real big marketers that that are successful in that, they go to centers of influence they find people who have influence over many other people and that's why these podcasters who collaborate with each other they make the little tour between Joe Rogan and Tucker and Glenn Beck, and Alex Jones and so forth those people are in that kind of thought or area of thought they blow up you know they they get more people who've never been exposed to them They they go, oh, that's interesting, and they go out and find them on the Internet, and they start following them.
[00:41:36] Unknown:
So There's a bunch of bunch of folks here, Paul included, all came from Sheryl Westall, exactly what you're talking about. Yeah. I try to get those kind of situations, but my experience from from me, it personally, is that I've sent all these people packets and little piece of information. I've never even gotten a response. I do have. I've sent something to. So I've learned through life, the best way to do this are third party endorsements. It's much better if somebody out there, we're gonna keep growing and growing, not being high profile to the point where somebody knows somebody or has a connection somewhere.
That may be one of them or else, they stumble somebody stumbles, calls into Alex or one of the shows that said you really need to get Roger Sales on. And then a lot of those times, they're receptive to it. So maybe but I all I know to do at this point is just keep putting one foot in front of the other, working on the base that we've got. Even though we're expanding slowly, it's probably much better to have a firm foundation than be a quick shot because you don't have the backing then. So I am a big fan of our firm foundation, and we've got one. I mean, hell, even Jeff Rents told me. He says, man, you got a big audience. Well, I don't notice that. See? I don't know that. But come that comment coming from him was well, see, it was incisive, you know, insightful.
[00:43:10] Unknown:
Well, I know what helps too is That's a dilemma. When you come on just keep when you come on the show and say, hey, you know, Jeff Rents is interested in us. And, you know, if you guys will reach out, here's an email where you can,
[00:43:23] Unknown:
you know, request a guest or recommend a guest. Done that. Yeah. That's how we got it. That's
[00:43:28] Unknown:
that's pretty effective. You know?
[00:43:31] Unknown:
Yes. We tried it with Chase. It didn't work. We could try it again. But, otherwise, just put one foot in front of the other and keep going. That's all I know to do. It's a very powerful weapon. It's proven. Our enemies agree with us. So the skepticism really, although you could understand it, shouldn't really be there, should it? But it is. Just like you're talking with your friend and his family. So all I know is when the information hits the right person, man, it blossoms. Boom. Yeah. Usually. Yep. Now yesterday, you weren't here. Yeah. Just a second, Larry. We had a new gal came on, a new old gal, Annie, who I had been around from the Jacksonville group. She's part of that Jacksonville group. We tapped into a couple of years ago. Larry's Right. On the periphery or part of that. I'm not sure. Anyway, she said, well, my husband and I have decided to move forward. Well, they've been noodling on it for a year or more since I appeared, with Brian down there. Well, they're finally ready to move. So with some people, it just flat takes time.
[00:44:39] Unknown:
Right. Right. Understand. And and and that's a safe approach. Hey. I did that. You know? I I took in all the information for years. I'm like, Tom, where were you? I've been waiting forty years for this.
[00:44:52] Unknown:
I was waiting twenty years, but he was waiting a little bit. You weren't you weren't you weren't ready, grasshopper.
[00:45:00] Unknown:
Well, we didn't have your information as soon as you came along. It didn't take too long to grasp what was going on. And that that you really had legitimate information. You backed everything up with case law and codes and regulations and even definitions.
[00:45:16] Unknown:
And legal canons. Nobody else. Do that. Yeah. Yeah. I've I don't know one person in the country, even Pabon Montyahu or whatever his name is out there getting dinged by the IRS all the time from what I understand.
[00:45:31] Unknown:
Yep. So, yeah, that that guy, he's passionate and he's well meaning, but he doesn't have the full picture. Nope. And he's being promoted constantly because he has a money making scheme where people pay a percentage of whatever Yeah. Whatever taxes they're gonna supposedly save. Right? But the problem is is Paimon, whatever his last name is, Hattenay or something like that, he's actually been sued by the government and lost. Sued and lost but because he had his asset protection in order, they didn't get much from him and so his claim is I never paid it and they didn't come after me. Whoopee doo you're gonna have a judgment hanging over your head the rest of your life payment And Yeah. And the back to the money making part, the people that bring him on their shows, he gives them half of all the sales that come from their show.
Yeah. So, like, I've I just have to be like when, they were promoting him on the Sons of Liberty. I forget the guy's name that does the morning show. The guy in the morning, Brown. Brown.
[00:46:51] Unknown:
Yeah. Brown. Something like that.
[00:46:53] Unknown:
Yeah. I think it's Tim. Anyway, I I went in there and I'm letting people know because as soon as, payment come on the scene or was, you know, come on my radar, I went and did deep research. I got the actual court documents. I read through the indictments you know I don't just take somebody's opinion for it I went and dug on it and see what this guy's all about and he I believe he's he means well he's passionate, his heart's in the right place, but he doesn't have your information. He doesn't have it. And the other thing too, Roger, and this really kind of brings up a point. I was talking to one of one of your listeners last night and they were part of our trust group and so they were having some questions about some of our documents and so they were asking me about, some of these other types of trust like, I think it's called ecclesiastical trust and there's all kinds of different trusts. They got the five zero eight C1A I believe that's kind of a church trust and and I pointed out that all these vehicles that people have come up with over the course of time modern time here was created to get out of paying taxes.
There's no other way to slice it and one of the guys who was selling a five zero one c or five zero eight c1 a trust was in Tulsa. Man, I wish I could think of his name but he got busted by the IRS and they forced him to turn over the list of all his clients that use that trust they called it an abuse of trust because they were generating income inside the trust and they weren't paying taxes on it. Yeah but because there's misinformation out there saying that you can use this type of trust to avoid paying taxes people glom on to it.
So I find it funny when people show up here and go well what about this person's program and what about this person what about what they got over here? Please understand they do not have Roger's information and the people that have already been exposed to that and they do find Roger they're still reaching back trying to use these old vehicles that are really not proper and they still could get you in some trouble if you're not using them properly. Right? But Roger your information simplifies everything. You don't have to jump through hoops of fire to get tax exempt on your federal income tax.
This this just simplifies it. You don't have to go out here and pay $4,000 $5,000 to somebody to create some trust that could potentially get you in trouble or or whatever paperwork they got a 33 page affidavit. And Roger, I can't tell you enough how much I appreciate you and and sharing your information because all that junk I don't have to put up with anymore I don't even have to consider it. You got the message you got the goods you got the receipts you can back it up and if people will just get that other junk out of their heads and just look at standard business practices using your information, it'll save them a lot of time and headache and save them a ton of money.
[00:50:54] Unknown:
And all this circles back to people trying to get away from IRS. Trusts are not a tax vehicle. They are a property vehicle.
[00:51:06] Unknown:
Yes.
[00:51:07] Unknown:
They're just the whole property. But they keep going somehow somehow, it's like a communist. Well, maybe it'll work this time. You know? Well, no. It won't. Alright? Because it's not meant for that. But, boy, it's just like you said, well, that's one of the big battles I've had over all these years. Mark is getting some of these patriot things out of people's minds. Look. I've got it. It's simple. This is the way it works. Nobody's ever proved me wrong on any of it. Yet they've always got doubts that there's something of the all cap letters has gotta mean something. All all that stuff. Right. It's been one of my big frustrations is trying to get that those ideas out of people's heads. And, you know, it goes back to what Mark Twain said. Mark, Easier to fool a man than to tell him he's been fooled.
Yeah. That is so true. Roger? I I I quote that ever so often too. And it's that other one too. I'm sorry. I forgot I forgot about you, Larry. I'm sorry. My bad. How are you doing, brother?
[00:52:08] Unknown:
Good. I was just wondering, Mark, can you, recap the story behind the gentleman that you talked about earlier getting his refund back? And how is he doing on the, state income tax situation?
[00:52:21] Unknown:
This is really funny because the the feds gave him a full refund. Now it took it's it took some time because they, you know, they filed a a paper return and they asked for a paper check so they could make a copy of it to show other people and the state balked on it and they they taxed him for 2023 but they never gave him an assessment they never showed this is by law what they're supposed to do and actually under Oklahoma law they're supposed to go by your adjusted gross income and we proved that his adjusted gross income was zero based on the IRS tax transcript.
So that's still being challenged right now. We're challenging with the Oklahoma tax commission But what's really funny is this year the Oklahoma tax commission cut him a check lickety split but the IRS forwarded his tax return to the, Utah branch, Ogden. So they're reviewing his federal income tax. So we have just a flip flop this year. So, anyway, we'll see what they, what they come up with.
[00:53:45] Unknown:
Mark, I meant to mention a new guy yesterday, referred by Robbie, r r j, I believe, was his initials. He's, from a bunch in in Tulsa. Okay. There's a foot there's a football coach, captain Dave or somebody over there. I think I've heard him before a little while back, but he's involved in having that group. So, anyway, I mentioned you to him, and he may be listening today. So, RJ, if you are, unmute unmute and come say hello to Mark. Here he's in you're outside of Oklahoma City close. Right?
[00:54:17] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. I'm in the in the metro area, Oklahoma City Metro Area.
[00:54:22] Unknown:
Okay. Well, he might not be with us today. You never know. But I thought that was interesting that he was from Tulsa. I don't think you or Joe were on the show yesterday when he came on. Anyway, we're getting some new folks. They dribble in. You know? And Right. I you know, the one thing I know that I think I I know, I'd probably correct that, the worse the situation gets externally, that when and if we do get to that point when the big God opens the door for us, get it on Alex or something like that, the further it goes, the way it's going right now, the bigger reaction they're gonna have when this information is presented to them.
[00:55:04] Unknown:
Right. Right.
[00:55:07] Unknown:
So that's a positive. Yes, ma'am, please.
[00:55:11] Unknown:
I had a question for Mark. Is there a period of time when, that they have to go over and review your taxes or whatever. I'm still waiting on getting mine back.
[00:55:29] Unknown:
Well, you know, they have they have three and a half years from the time you file it, to
[00:55:37] Unknown:
Send it back to you? Give you an assessment.
[00:55:40] Unknown:
And based on that assessment is what tax you owe. So I don't know that there's really any time frame other than they have to have a final say of what they think you owe or don't owe within three and a half years of the filing date on on federal. No. State Yeah. That varies state by state. Talking yeah. Federal.
[00:56:06] Unknown:
I've gotten mine back from the state. No problem. Last year Yeah. They they last year the funds I got back last year, they lost the first one because I sent it to the wrong place, and then I had to resend it back in. And then they processed it. No problem. This year, I sent it to the same place I did last year, and they I got back the return receipt confirmation. They had received it. They never put it into the system. Then I got the excuse that it was bad training. So people are entering the information into the system and closing the batches and then losing all the information they input for the day. And then, so I resent it back in.
It now says they have it, and I've called maybe three times. And they said, oh, it's in review and call back next month. It's in review. You don't call back. No letters. No no update on the where's my refund. No nothing. Yeah. It's it's just call back next month. Yep. Yep. I understand. It's just,
[00:57:18] Unknown:
not much you can do about that. I'd, you know, I'd have to go and look at what their requirements are. You probably could, you know, ask questions on an AI platform and get a pretty good response. But, you know, they do have a taxpayer advocate and they also have another office that's supposed to help you if your tax form got lost or something's hap you know, there's some kind of hold up. You know, they're they've got another office that's supposed to help you with that as well. So I I just can't I remember the acronym. I think it was ATPA, But, I just I don't have a good answer for you, unfortunately.
[00:58:06] Unknown:
Okay. And and for your for your for your people, word-of-mouth and talking to people, I've had two separate kinds of reactions. Either I've had people go into a total meltdown right in front of me and just lose it. Or I've had I've had these people that look at me and they're like but their whole life is invested into the system. And if they walk away from that Yeah. Yep. And they don't worry about paying taxes because they just lie on their tax returns anyway. So it that part doesn't bother them.
[00:58:50] Unknown:
That's the red button that Catherine Austin Fitts tells that story about. Have you seen her tell that story? Same thing. Exactly what you're saying. Well, she's up in front of a group of people doing a talk, and somebody says, can we straighten this out? And she said, yes. All we have to do is press this red button. She got a big red button she brings up on the podium. And somebody says, what happens if you press that button? She said, well, your pensions, the whole world economy, and everything's upside down and it's gone. How many people wanna press it? One guy out of the whole audience would press it.
[00:59:25] Unknown:
Yeah. Irishman.
[00:59:28] Unknown:
Irish. Probably was.
[00:59:31] Unknown:
Okay. Farris, what have you got? Standing by.
[00:59:36] Unknown:
Well, I admitted my 50% Irishness, just by my introduction. It's kind of a trade off of your dubbing me, Iron Man because my name is Ferris Royd. But in any event, I called to contribute the following. I think we're into the mystic here because as I'm listening to, oh, the whistler is here. Can I can I pause?
[00:59:59] Unknown:
Yes. Would you, please? Paul, would you please This is very good. It's on topic. It's on topic. Okay. It's on topic. Fantastic. Paul, would you please, come and bid our visitor's adieu?
[01:00:12] Unknown:
Yes. Yes. I can do that. One zero six point nine WBOU FM Chicago. Follow us into the second hour by going to the matrixdocs.com and clicking on the free conference call link, or you can click on the Euro Folk or Global Voice Links, on that page. Also, any other platforms that are catching us, if we drop off literally now, do the same thing. Go to the matrixdogs.com. Thank you.
[01:00:39] Unknown:
Yes, sir. Really need more time. We we gotta I know. Either got a lights and a whisper I knew it was I knew it was coming up, and I spaced it. My bad. Okay.
[01:00:49] Unknown:
Thank you. Bye. Bye. Bye.
[01:00:51] Unknown:
Yeah. Okay, Farris.
[01:00:54] Unknown:
Good day. I say we're into the mystic here when I hear the same thing on the, greatest, call in show on Earth. That is the Radio Ranch with Roger Sales and company. And in the other ear because we have two ears, you see. You listen to one show in one ear and the other show in the other ear. And the other show is the Stephen K. Bannon founded outfit called realamerica'svoice.com.
[01:01:24] Unknown:
Yeah. And he was on the same topic to
[01:01:28] Unknown:
blah blah. So he was on the same topic that we are on, and that is IRS, abuse and misuse. And so I called to say that he has a fella, and I I won't give a spelling, but it's Trevor Kinsey. It's probably easier to spell. T r e v o r, Kinsey, k I n s e y. Trevor Kinsey. He was on just now, and he is an expert in these IRS matters matters. And I'd also say that he's gonna be on 05:00 today as Bannon's guest on realamerica'svoice.com. Now you will those who are unfamiliar with Stephen K. Bannon's realamerica'svoice.com, they have what are called the, the, what are they called? Anyway, he's got the inside skinny. He's he went to jail for Trump. I mean, how many of you would go to jail for somebody you admired?
[01:02:27] Unknown:
I I'm looking at I don't see any hands raising out there. I admit that's, that's a very noble thing he did and and very chivalrous and accurate.
[01:02:36] Unknown:
Well, I I he happened to go to a place I know very well that is FCI. That is the Federal Correctional Institute at Danbury, Connecticut. And that's where he did his time for his leader. So you don't find men like Bannon, commonly. This is a very rare individual, so don't miss a chance to get him nine, in one ear. We we gotta keep, Radio Ranch in in our left ear and, realamerica'svoice.com in our right ear, seven days a week, twenty four hours a day, seven days a week. And you'll be glad you did because he's got the thing on the Bolshevik revolution. He knows that our country is now lost, totally and forever.
Cannot come back when you see the support for the type of, speech that Mahbani gave gave in New York last night attacking his opponents. Right? So now we know that we're we're we're going for the same kind of, communism that, other great countries once great countries have fallen under, and so I recommend that. But, my Irishness is 50%. My Germanness is 50%. I'd like to mention a new listener to the show coming from a brewery in Idaho of all places. And when I mentioned that I I recently, returned from a extended trip to Germany and Austria, I was around
[01:04:09] Unknown:
Did the meter run out on Ironman?
[01:04:14] Unknown:
Yeah. I guess I guess the meter did.
[01:04:16] Unknown:
And next time you need to put another quarter in.
[01:04:20] Unknown:
Yep.
[01:04:22] Unknown:
Yeah. Iron Man, I got a tangent. That's the longest we've ever given him exposure on the program, and you did pretty good. Okay? But you do get off of your tangent. That's alright. It's talk radio. It's open to the whole world. I had Larry and I had Joe. Larry first, Joe, and I'll get to you in a second. Larry?
[01:04:40] Unknown:
Yeah. If Muse is still here, I had questions for her before Ferris came on. She mentioned that she got her, I believe she mentioned she got her state income tax back, and I was wondering if she could go over that briefly because that's very rare for that to happen. And then, I didn't catch her story completely. I think she said that she sent in her federal her federal return, and she's still waiting on it after so many months, and she has no idea what's going on. And I was wondering if she has proof of delivery and if she's called the IRS.
[01:05:18] Unknown:
I called the IRS multiple times, and they keep telling me to call back next month. I've gotten several different stories. I do have proof of receipt multiple times. It is now currently registered on the where's my refund website. Like, they show it's received on their website. And last year, I did not have a problem getting getting back my state return either. So, both years, the state was fine. It's the federal that it it had a hiccup, and it was the first time it was, I sent it to the wrong place. Whether or not they actually lost it, I don't know. But I'm gonna I'm gonna take that one as I sent it to the wrong place. This year, the return I'm supposed to get this year that was for last year, they lost it the first time, and they the excuse that they told me was that, they had bad training.
They weren't training the people that they had hired on. And so they're working all day, and then they just shut off the computers, which doesn't upload the batch, and it just dumps everything. That was during the time when, Trump had put somebody into that overseeing that, and he had told everybody to work less hours and to cut back on what they were doing. And, and then he fired them and put somebody else in there. So I resent it back in again. They have it, but now they're on this holding thing where they're not processing them or they're scrutinizing or whatever they're doing. So they said that they had sent it over to be reviewed.
They asked me if I had received a letter, and they said, if you receive a letter, just respond to it. I have not received anything. I called back again. The they said, oh, you gotta wait. You can't call back so quickly. Then I called back again, and then they said, oh, it's it's still in the review status. You know? Call back next month.
[01:07:49] Unknown:
Are they using the term review or frozen?
[01:07:52] Unknown:
Reviewed.
[01:07:54] Unknown:
Reviewed. On that.
[01:07:55] Unknown:
And when you asked them why is it in review, like, what exactly does that mean? What what answer did they give you?
[01:08:02] Unknown:
They just they just said they're reviewing it. And they asked me if I had received a letter. I haven't received any letter. And and when I told them I hadn't received any letter, they said, well, just call back next month. I'm in. So I call back next month, and it's still the same thing.
[01:08:21] Unknown:
Yes.
[01:08:24] Unknown:
Find a real find the name of a real person to send a letter to, a certified letter, and, tell them that you expect to be receiving your refund as well as penalties and interest because of the delay their delay in processing, which wasn't your fault, particularly because the data was entered and then dumped. That's not your problem. That's their problem. So penalties and interest.
[01:08:57] Unknown:
You can write to, to Heather Hill, who's, the acting inspector general for for, tax administration, Tig TIGTA, and, let her know what's going on too. And you could cc the commissioner.
[01:09:18] Unknown:
And it's TigTA?
[01:09:22] Unknown:
Tax administrator. What's his what's it? Tigta?
[01:09:28] Unknown:
T I g t a.
[01:09:33] Unknown:
Okay.
[01:09:35] Unknown:
Tigta. Well, good luck, Muse and I. Hey. Just dealing with the bureaucratic shuffle.
[01:09:49] Unknown:
They're not your,
[01:09:51] Unknown:
state return when you filled out your state return, did you do anything special? How how'd you go about doing that?
[01:10:01] Unknown:
I I did not do anything special. I don't think I did anything special. I just I followed the instructions, and I copied over the information from the federal to the state. Now I did send a copy of my affidavit with both both times. And, I did let them know that it's been on file for a long time, my affidavit. And that that's pretty much it.
[01:10:41] Unknown:
On the state form, did you use the equivalent state form to the federal, the the nonresident alien, or did you just use the regular state form that's the equivalent to a ten forty?
[01:10:53] Unknown:
I I well, I I use the NR. So it's equivalent to the nonresident alien?
[01:11:03] Unknown:
Uh-huh.
[01:11:04] Unknown:
And if you don't if you don't mind me asking, what state is this? Michigan.
[01:11:08] Unknown:
Michigan. Mhmm. It's unusual that it works so it's unusual that it works so smoothly at first, Muse, is in your state. I think that's Tom. We got Joe's back there. I hadn't forgot about you, Joe.
[01:11:23] Unknown:
Tom, what what do you got?
[01:11:24] Unknown:
Oh, it's Mars. I'm sorry. I got a real quick comment. When you when you send in a ten forty n r, there's two types. One where you're expecting a refund that always goes to Austin processing center. And then you've got one where you owe a tax and I believe that's North Carolina, it's usually not my focus cause most everybody gets a refund. But and you may correct me but I want to say there's an office in North Carolina where you send if you have to owe a tax as a as a national excuse me. I've kinda lost my train of thought there. But as a national, if you owe a tax and you're filing a ten forty and r, then and you're gonna write a check, then that's gotta go to North Carolina.
[01:12:17] Unknown:
I sure didn't.
[01:12:20] Unknown:
Yeah. And I think that's where I sent it the first year Yeah. Around the '20 got delayed. Yes.
[01:12:26] Unknown:
And so this year, I sent it to you. Right.
[01:12:30] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah.
[01:12:32] Unknown:
Well, it's in the instructions. To Austin.
[01:12:35] Unknown:
And Okay. Good.
[01:12:37] Unknown:
As as far as I'm aware, everything should have processed correctly. Now, Michigan, when I initially sent them my notice, They did respond back to me and said they would not debate my affidavit on a point by point basis. So I let them know every time I send in anything that they've already responded to my affidavit that they have it, that's on file.
[01:13:09] Unknown:
You would I think I would come back and say, I'm not asking you to respond on a point by point basis. If it doesn't apply, simply state your facts and sign it under penalty of perjury and disavow what I've got online. That's the only way you can do it.
[01:13:28] Unknown:
Oh, well, I took it as, you know, we've received your affidavit, and we're just letting you know we received your affidavit in our backhanded negative kind of way. So I just filed that in my file, and I just I let them know the first year I filed the for the return that they had already received my affidavit and responded back to me that they were not acknowledged.
[01:13:55] Unknown:
Yes. Acknowledged that they'd received it.
[01:13:59] Unknown:
Correct. And so and they sent me back my return. They sent me back my funds. No problem. They sent me back my funds. No problem. This year, it's the IRS that is, seems to be the holdup, and I can only conclude that, a, they're trying to do a work slowdown, and, b, they're probably running out of funds.
[01:14:23] Unknown:
Could be. I I have no idea. You. Anyway, good luck with it. However you do it, I'd just sit back and wait and see what they do. Continue to give them a call and, just be patient. It should I I will bet they'll pay up.
[01:14:40] Unknown:
Yeah. I just I just wanna know if it's, gonna be under the new currency.
[01:14:48] Unknown:
Yes, ma'am. Well, I understand that. But, anyway, sorry people have these kind of problems with dealing, especially with those people, IRS. You know, we for many years, we didn't even mention IRS around here until John went back and did that revocation of election and got all that substantial sum of money back. And that started all the interest and here we are still dealing with it a few years down the road. But that's kinda new. We didn't use the alright. Hold on. We had Joe, You were in in waiting? Yep. Hey, bud. I didn't forget about that.
[01:15:27] Unknown:
Okay. Just a brief
[01:15:30] Unknown:
just a brief comment. And I know many in the group are turned off to anything Farris says that he did speak one truth. And Steve Bannon is gonna be as good information as you're gonna get on what's going on on the other side. He's and you have to know what's going on over there to be able to figure what that what's going on. And And what you need to do? To Steve Bannon is beg your pardon, Roger?
[01:16:04] Unknown:
I was just gonna say, yeah. Go go ahead, Joe. I'm sorry we got this damn bad. Go ahead. He he's a very credible source.
[01:16:11] Unknown:
Yeah. And he will criticize Trump just as quick as anybody. And he has recently criticized him heavily.
[01:16:20] Unknown:
So Yeah. Well, evidently, his ratings have just tanked all of a sudden. Boom. I like I like him. I like Bannon, and, I just don't intentionally dial over on his show. I see clips of him and whatnot. But, well, I I kinda came to that conclusion for a long time ago. There is no political solution to this. I don't believe. I applaud anybody trying and even making small inroads into that. But in the big picture, I don't think there is a political solution, unfortunately.
[01:16:54] Unknown:
One of the reasons I'm here teaching this all I had. I just This is a solution.
[01:17:00] Unknown:
Okay. Yeah. Thank you, Joe. He wanted to give a, a layering of approval for mister Bannon. Okay. So, Murr, we got you and Larry's conversation taken care of, I think. Mark, you got anything else to bring up if you had a chance to look at that Utah Supreme Court case yet?
[01:17:25] Unknown:
No. You have to remind me which one was that?
[01:17:31] Unknown:
Gayette. It's that weird, diet or gayette versus something. I don't remember the style of it, unfortunately. But you're gonna feed into, AI and see what they said about it. Yeah. Because I thought what a 100 pages or something. 150.
[01:17:48] Unknown:
150 pages. Yeah. I think what
[01:17:53] Unknown:
Yeah. What they read on there was lockstep with what we do. Go ahead. Alright. Cool.
[01:18:01] Unknown:
The thing I I had, and that's cool if it's lockstep in what we're talking about, then people in Utah shouldn't have any problem being you know tax exempt as a national but it's it's a state case and it's the state Supreme Court so it only controls the courts that are below the Utah State Supreme Court. Now it can be used as guidance in other cases So but where where the real power would be is to get our hands on the briefs that were presented. What was the year of that case?
[01:18:42] Unknown:
6068. Was that it, folks?
[01:18:47] Unknown:
Okay.
[01:18:48] Unknown:
I I think it's '68.
[01:18:51] Unknown:
I like to dig dig into it. Well, I I want you to when you get a few minutes. I know. Okay. I know your limitations. So, who else had something they wanted to bring forward this morning?
[01:19:05] Unknown:
Hey. This is Dan in Oregon.
[01:19:08] Unknown:
Hello, Dan. I think we spoke with you the other day, didn't we?
[01:19:12] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. So regarding Steve Bannon, I can tell you this. I had, Britt Leonard's book, excellence of the common law compared and contrasted to civil law sent to him in Danbury Prison where I thought he might have some time to at least open up and read the preface. But I see no indication that he's done that. My next target was gonna be Charlie Kirk, but there went that I thought he might be a little more open to it and, be persuaded to our arguments. Anyway, I just wanted to throw that in there regarding mister
[01:19:56] Unknown:
Bannon. Plus, you know, part of that would have a gift.
[01:19:59] Unknown:
The the problem we have trying to approach some of these people is they've got their own lives and the world is swirling around them and all this stuff on their plate. And you're giving them something here that they they can't just fold it in like a juggler would an extra ball. They gotta stop and put everything on the background and look at this because it's so dramatic a change. And I think that's part of the problem with addressing this with with really high pro higher profile successful people. May not be, but I think I feel like it is, you know?
And, and you can't make a snap judgment on this. Most people can't. Bam. Yes or no. And, you can't give this information or it's very difficult to feed it to people in sound bites Because you can't look at a sound bite and get the whole depth of what this is. So it's got a lot of challenges to it, Dan, as we've all found out, I guess. Yes, sir. Well, keep going keep on going one step in front of the other. That's what you gotta do is we've been doing it for years, and, I never believed it would be this difficult. That's the one thing that surprises me of how effectively they've got the people totally screwed into the ground backwards.
It's amazing. Anyway, Dan, glad glad you're out there. Thanks for the comment. Anything else you wanna say?
[01:21:27] Unknown:
Oh, my dog, Okey. He was diagnosed with spleen cancer October 15, and he's hanging in there, but, boy, has it been a roller coaster ride. I'm sorry. Anyway, that's I'm sorry.
[01:21:39] Unknown:
I'm so sorry. Hold it. Julie. Yes. You may. That's Julie. Correct?
[01:21:44] Unknown:
Yes. Dan, you need to get your dog on fenbendazole. I can't tell you the number of people whose dogs were diagnosed with cancer, and they're using fenbendazole. You can get it on Amazon. It's also known as Panacure, and it has reversed its parasites.
[01:22:02] Unknown:
Yes. I'm working on getting the right dosages for mine. That is something in the quiver I wanna use. Thank you, Julie.
[01:22:10] Unknown:
Yeah. You would Thank you, Dan. 10 it's one packet it's one packet, which is one gram per ten pounds. And they tell you on the insert to, round up, but I always round down. And I have so many of my friends who have their dogs with, cancer and all sorts of stuff. And and my dog was supposed to die three years ago from heart disease, and he's better than ever before. So I yield.
[01:22:36] Unknown:
Well, Julie, we didn't know you were a dog lover. What kind of a little pooch do you have? You have a mutt or a a breed?
[01:22:43] Unknown:
I have the most beautiful service dog in the world because I had bone I had a bone marrow transplant, and he's actually a service dog. He's super duper smart, but he's a teeny tiny mixed Pomeranian. Like I said, just smarter than smarter than the Dickens. He's 14 years old.
[01:23:03] Unknown:
Wow. Wow. Well, most smaller dogs live longer, generally. Okay. Well, good. I didn't know you had that. That's good. Also, Julie, among her many other talents, she's knowledgeable in the veterinary area. So there you go. Yeah.
[01:23:19] Unknown:
And you don't take your dog to the vet anymore for rabies. Rabies is gonna kill your dog. You do not need a rabies vaccine, and you don't need to take your dog for teeth cleaning. There are, new cloths that are online that you can just rub your teeth your dog's teeth with that will get rid of all of the tartar and stuff. And it's just one big racket, yields.
[01:23:41] Unknown:
Wow. Well, that's pretty cool. Okay. Thank you, Julie. Thank you, Dan. Anybody else got something they'd like to bring forward? We've got number of listeners in the audience there. Oh, I know a lot of folks are working and listening in the background. Well, okay. We've got a few minutes left on the show here. I'll post something. Yeah. Okay. Please.
[01:24:09] Unknown:
So speaking of today's head headlines, just this is just regular, headlines. Lindsey Graham brags that anti Zionist, that, anti Zionist public figures, will be executed on live TV. Then there's another article Elon Musk, his AI satellite network will regulate sunlight. Electric cars can be controlled by China. Queen Elizabeth's closest aide was arrested for raping children. And, Sean from the TPV that you like, he's on the Alex Jones show, sometimes for some segments basically says that, Israel is trying to assassinate Candace Owens and Tucker, Carlson.
So, oh, and then, there was another headline that the real reason for the Epstein Kirk assassination was he actually got ahold of the Epstein files. So those are the news lines that I read today. How lovely.
[01:25:26] Unknown:
Wow. He actually got a hold of the Epstein files?
[01:25:32] Unknown:
It's a rumor. These are all rumors that he had the Epstein files. I don't have any proof yet, and I haven't read all the articles. But I just looked at them, and I was like, wow. There's talk about no positive news for today.
[01:25:45] Unknown:
Oh, yeah. Okay. Well, I don't know what happened, but Roger just dropped off. He he disappeared.
[01:25:56] Unknown:
So Yeah. He had a power outage.
[01:25:59] Unknown:
Well, he might have had a power outage or or like a Internet interruption. Whatever. We'll just keep an eye on Zoom and see if he, comes back. He might have hit the wrong button. He does that sometimes. Let me let me check and see if his Hey. Hey, Paul. Are there more people on Zoom?
[01:26:19] Unknown:
Hey, Paul. Are there more people on Zoom or more people on SDC?
[01:26:23] Unknown:
Oh, that no. Roger's the remote is still on for Roger. Let's see.
[01:26:35] Unknown:
Julie, I'm a answer for Paul. I'm I'm almost certain there's a lot more people on FCC than Zoom. Zoom usually is just a couple.
[01:26:43] Unknown:
Yeah. Zoom is only there for, for Roger because it's, it's a high contrast, screen and he can actually see it, and he he knows Zoom, and he knows where all the buttons are and what they do and all that. The free conference call app is just so pastel that it's difficult for him to see it. You know, white lettering on gray on a gray background, I have trouble with that. So Yeah. And it looks like, Roger, was available for remote control, and then all of a sudden, he disappeared, but now he's back. So I expect that he'll be rejoining us in Zoom shortly.
[01:27:29] Unknown:
And, Julie, you mentioned you mentioned earlier that people's voice Sean? People's voice, Sean. Yeah. And his and his last name, if I'm looking correctly It's very weird. Yeah. But literally is a d l Yep. Tabataba or something like that? Yep. Crazy.
[01:27:53] Unknown:
Yep. That's why he only goes by his first name, Sean, on his x or Twitter. I think it's at, the tpvshawn, s e a n. He doesn't I don't think he's originally from, I don't know where he lives. Whether he lives in America or he's in Australia or he's in The UK. He definitely has a British accent or an Australian accent when he speaks. But, yeah, his last name is quite weird. And actually, the People's Voice was actually founded by David Ike. And David Ike stepped down, and I guess he was the one who was appointed.
[01:28:40] Unknown:
Okay. There we go. I believe that I have Roger back now. Are you there, Raj? Hello? Roger?
[01:28:58] Unknown:
Maybe he didn't unmute himself, Paul.
[01:29:02] Unknown:
No. I I unmuted him. He might might be seizing the opportunity to step off to the, off to the other room, and he'll be back. So, yeah, the only thing that we have Zoom for is to support Roger because he can see the interface. Yeah. He could read it.
[01:29:23] Unknown:
And, Yep. I'm back.
[01:29:25] Unknown:
There you go. Alright.
[01:29:28] Unknown:
Gotcha. Gotcha. We lost the Internet. We lost well, we lost the Internet here for a minute. So I took the opportunity to go visit the potty while we were out. Debano. Come back and we're on. So there you go. El Elbano. Yeah. I hear my come out. Hello. Two two three voices. Oh, there's Mark. Okay. Recognize Mark. Everything came out fine. Yeah. So, yeah, I drink a couple of cups of coffee, and I have a a drink that I normally drink, a couple of raw eggs in it, and some vitamins. And, about halfway or more through the show, that gets to be pressing on you. You know? Mhmm. So, yep, that's one of the usual reasons I have to get out of here so badly.
At the show. Anyway, I've got a window open here, Paul.
[01:30:20] Unknown:
Yeah. That was because I just disconnected remote. So you closed that window.
[01:30:26] Unknown:
Back in, the little white window?
[01:30:29] Unknown:
Yeah. I I know that your your Internet went out because, you were available by remote, then your computer disappeared, and then your computer came back. So Yeah. I just jumped in to refresh refresh Zoom. Thank you.
[01:30:47] Unknown:
Thank you. Well, I'm sorry to run away like that, but it wasn't any of my, fault doing, period. So, let's see. What were y'all discussing while I was gone? Did anything come up? We weren't gone very long.
[01:31:04] Unknown:
No. We were we were just talking about this, that, and the other thing.
[01:31:10] Unknown:
Yeah. So kind of one of those days. It's gonna be interesting to see the results. I do not like all this Muslim intrusion in these high offices, but it's obvious what they're doing, and it's obvious what they're doing. I I I'm not sure how to put a stop to it.
[01:31:32] Unknown:
Yeah. That's a mystery as well.
[01:31:37] Unknown:
Well, of course, they'll be taking over once again, our affidavit rights to the forefront because of that. We as one refuge is that we will be exiting the federal jurisdiction area, and that's where they'll be plying on. Because the only way you can force that is just by outright bloodshed, and I'm gonna cut your head off, or or you're gonna enforce it regulatorily. All of the UN things are all regulatorily enforced. And, of course, that gives us a backdoor out if and they recognize it. And, then we all know, as I've said so many times, we all know what the rules are at that point.
[01:32:19] Unknown:
Right.
[01:32:22] Unknown:
Just so sorry. There's a lot of people that are trapped in their situation. You know, they didn't have good they didn't know what they're doing. They're making decisions. They didn't know why they make decisions correctly. They made wrong decisions, and now they're trapped in some of those situations. And with the way the the, inflation's going up in prices, they can't get out. K. So it's very unfortunate. Something to be said about knowing
[01:32:55] Unknown:
It's it's not like they're they're really going to, and it is eventually gonna get to the point as they take over the government that they're gonna get to the point where they refuse to accept the affidavit because, of course, you know, we're all infidels and, their their goal in life is to wipe as many of us off the planet as possible and, you know, it's not so you have the right to personal political self determination. They will claim the right under Allah to wipe us all out. So
[01:33:29] Unknown:
if No. I'm talking to them. Happen soon,
[01:33:33] Unknown:
things are gonna go real bad, real fast. Good. Good. And we can't suggest anything. Otherwise, we're, anti Islamic and all this happy shit. So Well,
[01:33:46] Unknown:
it it it's quite a challenge. Do the things you know you can do if you don't have firearms and ammunition yet. Shame on you. Yep. That that's one with self defense, you ought to do quick. Food, for storage could also be very handy. All all those things of immediate being able to survive, certainly outweigh gold and silver. Okay? If you got extra, that's fine. But, you know, those other things take a high priority, obviously. Try to just get it if you haven't gotten out of the cities. If there's some people that have not gotten out of the city yet, You know, there's still time to do that, but not much.
I know there are other things that are prohibitive, although we did mention the Federal Reserve dropped the overnight rate a quarter of a point last week. Should have been much more, but at least it's a little bit. K? I don't know, man. There's a reason I just knew I needed to get out of there. That voice told me to get out. I I I look up from afar, and I'm just, it it it it just stuns me to see the directions the country's gone on. It really does. Mhmm. So he's good. You know, we got all that drug stuff down here, and unless you're on the coast, there's just no fear, no nothing, no not even any consciousness of it really.
So anyway, for me personally, I can look back and say there's a couple of things I made of real smart decisions. One of them when I had the excess cash flow was to buy all of those metals, and the other one was to take heed of that advice and get out of the country so many years ago. Now I don't know whether and we've talked about this because I had, at one point a few years ago, I went, wow. Well, were was I told to get out to get out, or was I told to get out so that I'd have to go get a passport for the first time and see this information I've been looking for and solve this big puzzle? Maybe it's a combination of both. I don't know. But I'm some of the better decisions I've made in my adult lifetime.
I can tell you, that's what, personally, I consider anyway. And so I know I'm very fortunate. I had a lot of situations that didn't have situations that other people have, family, children, all all those roots and attachments and etcetera. And I could do this, and, boy, I'm glad I did. Sure am glad I did. It's given me a a neat second life in different parts of the world, different cultures, and even learning a little bit of another language, enough to butcher it. I know enough to butcher it pretty good, Julie. And, so it's been a lot of personal growth for me, which is how I've in the second part of my life, I've come to understand and measure progress by personal growth. And, I've I've really gone through a lot of personal growth here in this move and in these years. So it's been quite a neat experience, actually.
So cool.
[01:37:10] Unknown:
Could I ask a question?
[01:37:12] Unknown:
Yes, ma'am. Please. We're begging for people to ask questions.
[01:37:16] Unknown:
It's Annie. Who are you?
[01:37:18] Unknown:
Oh, Annie. I'm Annie. Annie from the other day? Yes.
[01:37:22] Unknown:
Yes. From Monday.
[01:37:24] Unknown:
Okay. Hi, Annie. What question you got, sweetie?
[01:37:29] Unknown:
Are there other places other than Ecuador or including Ecuador that would be good places to move to outside of The United States that you could recommend?
[01:37:40] Unknown:
There's a few people like, they're getting fewer and fewer. Ecuador is really good, and here's why. The president current president is the son of a former the they call him banana boy because his father built a banana fortune. And he was born in The US. He had his mom go to Miami to have him. So he's actually a US citizen. The biggest difference, I think, that you would maybe not even notice initially, but it's really important, is that we're on the dollar. There's a couple of other countries around the world that are on the dollar, and you don't have to deal with exchange rates. And that's one of the really big attractions here.
And, and the other big attraction is they're on the dollar, but they don't have the printing press. So they can't print the dollars. They have to borrow them from these bandits. So you know that they would only borrow as few as they need to circulate. Right? Now that sets up another interesting situation is you better have a coin purse when you're down here because there's all kinds of coins and they have a dollar coin. And the reason for that is because coins are are spent into circulation and don't carry interest. Currency is loaned into circulation at interest.
So countries can increase the circulating medium by just putting more coins out. Consequently, you need a point coin purse. It's unusual. Let's see. Other good countries. Some people we had one guy here, Scott, who's from Atlanta. He went, he tried, where did he try? In the in The Caribbean for a while. The country that speaks English over there, and they're on the dollar too. And I can't remember the name of the country. Anyway, he was there for a long time. If you like mosquitoes and stuff, it's a grand they're more thieves there than than maybe other places. But I'll think Panama?
No. It's not Panama. It's one of those other little countries. It was a British protectorate, and it's on the Caribbean side of Belize. Thank you very much. Belize. He came up here. He hung around here for a while and went to The Philippines. So Scott's over on that side of the world. Many people really like it over there, but but it is a long way away from The States. Here, it's only a five hour flight. Mhmm. Where else? Paraguay, possibly. Paraguay is very nice. Uruguay is very nice. It depends on you, the those are good countries, to the expats like them.
Argentina's just got too many political and financial problems, although they are moving on the dollar, so they say. I don't know if they are yet or not, but that was proposed. I think they probably are on it already. In this hemisphere, Chile possibly, the Belize, not Belize, where the Bitcoin guys are. El Salvador. A lot of people are talking about El Salvador. If you like the beach, you can still buy land with a loyalty of title down there. I saw a video with a guy that had done that. So there's a few other places, Costa Rica.
Joan, our listeners from coast is lives down there. A lot of people, there there's getting to be so many Americans, North Americans down there. The Costa Ricans really resent them, I've heard. And, I'm not sure it's the best of the options now, but you may that's another option, certainly. So there's just a few for you. I'm not sure about other parts of the world. Right. Okay. Thank you. Yes. Yes. Well, hold on. So I might need some of these other folks may. Is that Samuel? Was that you, Samuel?
[01:41:53] Unknown:
It was Jesse.
[01:41:55] Unknown:
Oh, hey, Jesse. Yeah. Jesse, you got some suggestions?
[01:41:59] Unknown:
Well, the question is, it depends on the person what where their needs are. They wanna be close to The States. Are they able to speak Spanish? Yeah. They're going family or it's a single woman or single man. All depends. So sometimes, one country fits, for a certain person and and doesn't favor another person. Very good observation and very accurate. And, and, and what type of food do you want? You want a lot of meat? Maybe Argentina's for you.
[01:42:33] Unknown:
Actual no. You know, Jesse, the beef No. The major beef market has moved out of Argentina. It's in Uruguay now.
[01:42:42] Unknown:
Yeah. But what I mean, the culture, you know, your everyday, eating habits. You know, in many ways, Uruguay, Paraguay, Argentina is more like a Texan. They got parrillas or whatever, the barbecue steak Yeah. And so on. And then Central America, the only country I could think is closer to meat or sort of Texas, and they're they're the of all Central America, exporter of meat is, believe it or not, Nicaragua. Compared to, Costa Rica, they're not into the they're more into, fried rice, beans, and soup.
[01:43:19] Unknown:
So yeah. Fish. All depends. Seafood.
[01:43:22] Unknown:
Yeah. Seafood and all that. Paraguay. All depends on Paraguay.
[01:43:25] Unknown:
Paraguay, I've said I've I wish I could remember the guy's name. He did a video a while back because he has developed a whole development down there for people. And if you build a house, you become part owner of the development. It was, of Paraguay's flat. It's got two really countries. There's two countries in one, the lower country where, oh, what's the, what's the capital of, Paraguay? You remember Jesse? I'm skips my mind. Associon.
[01:43:55] Unknown:
It starts with a s.
[01:43:59] Unknown:
And, Asuncion in the lower part of the country is where all the business is done. The upper part is flat and and is, more in fact, they don't even speak Spanish there. The native they speak a native tongue there. A lot of agriculture or whatnot. Pretty poor. Uruguay, small little country. I've been over there many times and, I like it. It's, it's kind of a use it's kind of like the Wild West of finance, and the Switzerland to South America, if you will. They clamp down on that a bit, but all the big players, financial players are in Montevideo. Okay?
All all the world banks and stuff. And the thing is is that Brazil has been pretty wealthy and Argentina has wealth and both of those countries can be confiscatory. And so everybody just takes our money to Uruguay. So it's got a lot of wealth there also. K? Nice nice country.
[01:45:04] Unknown:
The new kid on the block is Paraguay. I really like Paraguay. But, you know, if you're in USA and you wanna be back and forth, you know, you gotta get get two two, stops to get to, you know, eight or nine hours, airplane and the ticket's more expensive than you live in Costa Rica, you could go straight flight, and it'll be cheaper from Nicaragua. So all those factors, you have to think about it. All those factors. But I really, really, really like Paraguay. Paraguay has a lot of things. It was 10% income tax, and you're expired. You don't pay nothing. Another thing is qualification. You know? Do you qualify? You know? Takes $2,500, if I remember right, Costa Rica monthly for two or three years compared to, Paraguay. You only have to put $5,000 and meet certain requirement.
And, so all those factors go in there. The are you more a smaller country, you know, or a bigger country Paraguay. Community?
[01:46:02] Unknown:
Paraguay's got a pretty long established hundred year or more Mennonite community down there. So there's quite a few Mennonites that left Europe and went down and settled in Paraguay too, Anne.
[01:46:15] Unknown:
And they talk And they talk they talk real Spanish.
[01:46:19] Unknown:
They well, in in Southern They talk real Spanish. Yeah. They talk Castegano. That's what they they don't even call it Spanish. They call it Castagina. Castagina. Yeah. Yes, Anne. What's your question?
[01:46:36] Unknown:
Hi. I I have a question. My name is Alma. Hi, Alma. And, I'm new to hi. I'm new to the program, and I'm new to the to all this, you know, movement. And Okay. My question is, I've been following the process, and right now, we're waiting. My cousin and I are waiting for our passports, and, we will file for our kids because I didn't know that we needed to, schedule an appointment since they're minors. So we should have that done, this, Saturday. But we are waiting for that. So our next step is, to remove ourselves from the federal tax system. So but I, when I'm following the steps to the t here that that are posted in the national status website. Now it has a warning. And my question is, like, from the people that, you know that have done this, process of withdrawing or removing from the federal tax system, how it has been for them? It it it it like, do they have, like, success stories?
They run into a lot of trouble? How it has been for them?
[01:48:11] Unknown:
Generally, we don't run into any problems. Occasionally, you will, and sometimes it's just weird situations of situations of people using the wrong form to do something or the wrong nomenclature. Let me ask you. Did you say your name was Alma? Alma. Alma Arellano. Yes. That's my name. Hi, Alma. Well, how did you find us? A. And it sounds like you're from a from another culture. B. It sounds like you've got a a little bit of Spanish in your culture. And I'd like to ask you, what part of the country you're in.
[01:48:46] Unknown:
Okay. Yeah. I found you because I attended a conference. You might probably know this person. He passed away a few weeks ago. Peterson in South Carolina, I think. In and he had a a speaker that came and gave a conference. And they were talking about, to becoming a national and then about the scam that the birth certificate is and all that stuff. So the comments, somebody mentioned your name, and then I looked it up. And that's how I of course, it was a struggle for me, you know, going through the website and trying to find, you know, the movement, but I did.
And then, you know, I started reading and and going through the information, trying to understand. And then finally, you know, a few weeks ago, my husband and I decided that we were going to do this since I know that I understand everything. I understand why you say that it will take time for us to kind of feel confident on what we're doing. And, yeah, I am from Mexico, and so my main language is Spanish. So it might is my husband's as well. And, I came and established I came from Mexico and established here in New Jersey about twenty five years ago.
[01:50:20] Unknown:
Okay. So you're in New Jersey?
[01:50:23] Unknown:
Yes. In New Jersey. Mhmm.
[01:50:26] Unknown:
Okay. Well, listen, Alma, welcome. First of all, I'm I'm kind of astounded. I really applaud your perseverance in getting here. It tells me that you really want what's here or you wouldn't have put all that effort to get here within the obstacles that may be through culture or language. So welcome. We'll bend over backwards to help you and your cousin and your children and all your whole family if you wanna go down this path, and then, obviously, it sounds like you do. What questions you're asking, first of all, about IRS? I'm just gonna open it up to the audience. We got about 50 people in the audience. Has anybody had any substantial problems with IRS since you did this?
[01:51:08] Unknown:
Right here.
[01:51:10] Unknown:
Oh, here's Boris now. He can talk to you in Spanish. Boris, be meet Alma.
[01:51:23] Unknown:
If you need help, we we could help you. And I don't know nobody that have any problem here.
[01:51:29] Unknown:
Let me tell you Boris' story. He comes on one day and says, Roger, I wanna thank you because I just say I saved enough money by getting out of IRS that I was able to go home to Puerto Rico for the first time on vacation. So that's the kind of results we have. Okay?
[01:51:50] Unknown:
You're not allowed.
[01:51:52] Unknown:
I don't think they know what to do with this, Alma, because we've caught them right where they've choked and got this thing instituted, and they don't know what to do about it. Again, they can't deny it, and they can't rebut it. And every time they lash out, they can't go very far. So we've been very successful, I think, in my opinion, at keeping these people at bay. Now, Alma, I want you to meet Myrca. She's also got a Spanish background, and she has a resource for you. Myrca?
[01:52:27] Unknown:
Hi. How are you doing? Good.
[01:52:30] Unknown:
Welcome. I wanted to ask you, so you and your husband already sent your affidavits in. Right? And you and you're looking to, start one for your children too?
[01:52:43] Unknown:
Yeah. Well, actually, what I did, it was me who was doing the entire thing and just, you know, kind of letting my father know about, like, the process that I I was I was taking. But we follow every single step. You know, I read and read and read and went through before doing what I what I, you know, what what I did. I I followed the steps found at national status info, the website. Like like I said, I follow it to the t. So because, you know, I didn't wanna have any any issues. And so far, we are like, the four of us, it's my husband, my two minor kids, and myself.
We are in the process of getting the passport now because we received. We follow I mean, we we submitted the affidavit, and then, we send the notices, to the different agencies, I guess. And then now we are we we applied for passports. My husband and I the the application went out yesterday. We're waiting to submit our kits, to be this Saturday. And then so now after we receive the passports, boards, I'm going to do the removal from the federal tax system. But, since it has a warning here, then it says that, this method is not associated with national status teachings of mister Rogers Saenz. So that's what I have that question. Like, if if anyone had ever encountered, you know, any difficulties doing the withdrawal or the removal from the federal tax system.
So I know you know what to expect, but I will do exactly as as it says here. I am very good at going in terms of direction.
[01:54:41] Unknown:
Just just wanted to give you just wanted to give you my my telegram just in case you wanna reach out. Yeah. I want you two to get hooked up here. Go ahead, Marco. Like, reach out to me on Telegram. It's National Status Freedom, and I just wanted to double check. So you did send an affidavit in for your children or not yet? Yes. Yes. Okay. Okay. Because I had to do that for mine too. So, I can help, guide you through it and give you some information that you can review so that you you and your husband can learn more and and what it means to live in the private now. So, please reach out on national status freedom on Telegram.
The link is on the matrix docs.
[01:55:33] Unknown:
Yeah. We'll hook you guys up, and, I just wanna say, you know, how neat it is for me. I'm up for you and your whole family, your cousin there, all your children, your husbands, the whole clan. You would have never been able to be free in this world any other way than stumbling into this right here.
[01:55:54] Unknown:
Yeah. I you know what? I'm yeah. I'm sorry. Go ahead.
[01:55:59] Unknown:
No. No. You go ahead, please.
[01:56:02] Unknown:
Yep. What I wanted to say, and I guess that's the first thing that I should have done, is thank you. Thank you a lot for the platform. Thank you for the website. I told my husband two days ago, I appreciate a lot people like these gentlemen, because, you know, you took the time and maybe you have a whole team also, with you, but you have the time. You took the time to put this together. And I know how difficult it can be even for some people even to, you know, file one document. And now but you have it already here for us. And you took the time and then the dedication and everything for us, you know, just to go because you even have or your website even has the, the the letter. You know? We just have to type in some information and then which I use, by the way. I use that because I didn't wanna mess up anything.
And, and I I received everything in, in my email, and I'm like, this is super cool. This is fantastic. And I appreciate a lot all the time and dedication and all these years that I hear that you've been working on this movement for us to be free. So thank you very much to you and your team and the people that are with you all the time. Well well, the reason that we do it is for people like you and your family, as I was saying.
[01:57:33] Unknown:
I do want you to understand this. I've certainly contributed a big part here, but I don't know that you understand that we're talking about over a 100 of legal and historical research by three men. I wasn't the only one. I stood on my teacher's shoulders. So you've got something that is such a longevity and passed down through a couple of different people, and I'm gonna pass it down to you guys. And we're just tickled to death, Alma, that you came on the air. Thank you so much for allowing us to meet you and share a little insight into your family and situation.
Now as you go further Roger. You know how to get hold of us now, and I don't want you to ever be shy about coming on here and asking questions or having a conversation. Okay?
[01:58:23] Unknown:
Okay. For sure, I won't because, you know, I will have many questions. Right now, my husband is a little nervous, and I am as well. And and I know that I you know? Yeah. But about, you know, the driver license, about, also the hunting license, and all these things, like, how it's gonna play out, you know, for for for us and for him.
[01:58:48] Unknown:
Also, your husband we're on here Saturday. Your husbands husband or husbands are certainly welcome to participate if they are off that day. Myrka, you had something to say to her? You better do it quick.
[01:59:00] Unknown:
I just wanna tell Alma, the main website is thematrixdocs.com. Correct. Okay. The the the matrixdocs,d0cs,.com.dotcom.
[01:59:17] Unknown:
Yep. Go to that website because there's a lot of information on Oh, boy. There's a ton there. Go to the new student section, Alma. But listen, best thing to do is come back and visit us again. We're right at the tail of the broadcast part of the program. And, so we're gonna cut this off. We'll continue tomorrow, but we do hang around here afterwards. So thank you. See you soon. Let Paul cut that off. And, now, Alma, we have this little second part of the program called the after show, and there are people here till the wee hours of the morning oftentimes. So should you ever get a bolt of a question and we're not on the air, you can tap right back in and probably find somebody here. Okay?
[02:00:03] Unknown:
Okay. Okay. Got it. Thank you very much.
[02:00:06] Unknown:
No. Thank you, sweetie. Nice to meet you. Does anybody else have anything for me?
[02:00:12] Unknown:
Roger, I just wanna make sure she, she did write down that thematrixdocs.com because that's where the links are for everything.
[02:00:21] Unknown:
Yeah.
[02:00:22] Unknown:
And that's where she'll find my Telegram group too, National Status Freedom.
[02:00:27] Unknown:
Yep. She got a link there on the page too, Alma. Thematrixdocs.com. So, if nobody else has got something for me, I'm gonna dart off and hunt hunt down some lunch. And, otherwise, we'll be back tomorrow to see what kind of dust gets stirred up today after this election day yesterday and whatever else comes along. Have a great day. I love each and every one of you, and you're very, very special. And, we will look forward to seeing you if not tomorrow, hopefully very soon. Thank you, Paul. As always, my friend. Alright, Bory. Yep.
[02:01:09] Unknown:
Gracias. Thank you, Raj.
[02:01:10] Unknown:
Thank you for everything.
[02:01:13] Unknown:
Are you I had to step away for a minute, and I was just wondering, did Anna get all her stuff taken care of?
[02:01:19] Unknown:
I think so. We just wanna talk about those other places to consider going.
[02:01:25] Unknown:
Okay.
[02:01:26] Unknown:
Yep. Ecuador, I'd say maybe El Salvador, Ecuador, Paraguay, Uruguay. That'd be the ones right off the top of my head.
[02:01:38] Unknown:
I haven't been to I've I've lived in Costa Rica for quite some time.
[02:01:43] Unknown:
Yes. Well, you know In the nineties. So I know about this. I know about Boy, different country now. The gringos have taken Yeah. Totally. Yes. And the Jews too. The Jews are over there real heavy too. Israelis.
[02:02:00] Unknown:
Yeah. They're all over Panama as well.
[02:02:03] Unknown:
Yeah. Panama, I mean, yeah. I wouldn't go to either one of those, Uruguay and Paraguay. Look around. I think I that guy, I think he's go to YouTube and put the international investor on, and he's pioneered this whole development down there. They've got it's just a really, really interesting thing that he's got going down there. So you may wanna look there if you it's flat. You know, just doesn't have any of the mountainous or the other terrain. Kinda flat, good agricultural land, nice people. And, so those would be the places I'd say look to. So thank you. I'll see y'all tomorrow.
[02:02:45] Unknown:
Ciao. Thank you very much. Thank you, Raj.
[02:03:01] Unknown:
You too, Paul. Thank you.
[02:03:04] Unknown:
Thank you, Corey. Well, if nobody's got anything else to say, I might as well take the stream down. Anybody got Try to get out. Something they wanna talk about?
[02:03:26] Unknown:
We got time to talk.
[02:03:29] Unknown:
What about what about The Philippines? I hear The Philippines is nice, and you can, you can pretty much, live very well with a modest US income. You know, like retirement and stuff like that. Turn in communist.
[02:03:54] Unknown:
Turn in communist. We're turning communist. We're turning communist. We're turning socialist.
[02:04:02] Unknown:
You know you know, Paul, the problem with Asia is there's a lot of good places. It's just very far for most people, the distance. So everybody had to come to to realize that, you won't come to USA for a long time if you have family or children or grandchildren. You wanna see them. So it all depends.
[02:04:23] Unknown:
And your preference of climate would be very important.
[02:04:28] Unknown:
Absolutely. And it's very costly to fly back and forth, and you gotta leave every 90 days.
[02:04:35] Unknown:
Yep.
[02:04:36] Unknown:
You know, in Aladdin country own property.
[02:04:40] Unknown:
In in Aladdin country, that's very I already said it many times before, underrated is Nicaragua and Central America. And you could go from Miami to Nicaragua with less than three hours. You are able, as Dave just said, buy property and, food to bury sheep. And it's, it was what is Costa Rica twenty five years ago. And, it has mountains flat and everything. But, of course, USA says it's communist country and politicians, but there's a good community there, even Americans. And most American that goes to, Nicaragua, they're looking for freedom. Most, American that goes to, Costa Rica, they're more with the mindset of a liberal in many times.
And, so you're looking for freedom, and you're able to adapt to the culture, and you want you want good cheap food and and organic and all this, and you could build your dog house without asking permits. I prefer Paraguay. The problem is Paraguay is too far, and you do have to pay higher airline tickets if you wanna come back and forth.
[02:05:53] Unknown:
What I was about to say about Germany when I got dumped by the staff was that I I met a new listener over there, a new classmate of the radio ranch from Rogers Sales, and and, they have a brewery in Idaho. Very interesting people, a very interesting name for the brewery, and, her father. Of of course, it's a woman owned business enterprise. Everything is women owned, women and minority owned. Came in 1976 with the local public works act of 1976 sponsored by Perron Mitchell, a black skinned man from Baltimore who raised his hand when they were handing out the money for the local public works act. He said, let's give 10% of this to minorities.
And he thereby changed the construction industry and changed the nation so that everything now is owned by women and minorities. Can you imagine the the plight that we're under now? There's there's no hope. And you saw it last night in New York City and other parts of the country.
[02:06:57] Unknown:
Stop participating in your own demise. Yep. I can just start with he he got a guy there. He got, some properties in Nicaragua. They're selling them, and they are affordable for the people that got money. You know? They not real spend it.
[02:07:23] Unknown:
Yeah. Because you have a good, expat with Nicaraguan that come back and and build their houses, like, American style. And but, you're able to live a good quality, lifestyle, and and a lot of them speak English if you can't speak Spanish. And, and they're very hospitable. They're usually hard work. Most most people that work in in Costa Rica are are Nicaragu immigrants, and they work in the farms and work in the business. So the middle class down in Costa Rica are usually are Nicaragu working, working class, over there. And so they are and they don't receive welfare, so they're used to it. You know, if everything goes downhill in The United States, countries like that that don't get anything, from their government. Usually, nothing happened. They're already used to it.
They're used to working for whatever they even their poor, they won't starve. And, anyway, compared to here, they will run out of food in forty eight hours in all the stores.
[02:08:40] Unknown:
Hey, Paul. This is Bruce.
[02:08:43] Unknown:
Hey, Bruce.
[02:08:47] Unknown:
Who would you, tell a cop or officer or a judge to call, to find out about National? You're not the same.
[02:08:59] Unknown:
Who would you tell them to call?
[02:09:02] Unknown:
Yes.
[02:09:04] Unknown:
Just Passport office. I don't know. What you should actually do is you should put the, NCIC on notice that you're a national, and then they would update the they would update the national crime information,
[02:09:30] Unknown:
database. What the fuck is that? I've never heard of that before.
[02:09:33] Unknown:
It's NCIS.
[02:09:35] Unknown:
NCIS. Okay. NCIS, National Crime Information Service, and they keep a master database of everybody in the country or around the world. And that is the database that all the police stations, police and sheriffs are connected to.
[02:09:56] Unknown:
So they can Can you put that in chat?
[02:10:01] Unknown:
It's just NCIS, National Crime Information Service. Just Google it. We don't have any contact information or any addresses for them.
[02:10:17] Unknown:
So they would know what I was talking about?
[02:10:21] Unknown:
Well, they would be the one they would be they would be the ones that, you would, put on notice, and then anybody that checked their database after that would see that you're an asshole and not a citizen.
[02:10:37] Unknown:
So so how do you put them on notice? Where are they at? Like I said I can look that up too.
[02:10:45] Unknown:
Yeah. Like I said a minute ago, I don't have an address for them or anything like that. Oh. That would be, like, one central place that could be put on notice of your status, and anybody that checked with them would I would find that out.
[02:11:04] Unknown:
Okay. When
[02:11:06] Unknown:
you do a search for NCIS, do a search for government agency, NCIS. Otherwise, you're gonna get just nothing but a bunch of links to the TV show NCIS. Just saying.
[02:11:22] Unknown:
Okay. And I and I think that all the fusion centers that we hear about are connected to that. They are the regional operations for that that agency, and they are the ones who read your emails, your texts without you knowing.
[02:11:46] Unknown:
Oh, okay.
[02:11:47] Unknown:
Wow. I'm I'm also getting a bunch of hits first for naval criminal investigation service.
[02:11:59] Unknown:
The navy?
[02:12:01] Unknown:
The Canadian Canada. Yes, sir. Wow.
[02:12:09] Unknown:
We need a list. Because I kept wondering where in the world are they gonna call somebody and find out about me as a national do not detain? Because it's been brought up many times in in the call, but nobody has ever said anything about it. Where you put where do you give them the call? So I just figured I better ask. Thank y'all. Well, it's pretty good. Thank you. You don't know it.
[02:12:43] Unknown:
I wanted to say, I wonder if we ought to notice the FBI and CIA and DARPA and the Naval Academy and the military and all everybody. Right? There's a plethora of them.
[02:13:00] Unknown:
How about God and Satan? State to be first and god be second, I think. Notifying.
[02:13:12] Unknown:
The principal.
[02:13:15] Unknown:
Well, if you noticed your, AG, your sheriff, and your local district attorney, wouldn't that be the natural place to go?
[02:13:24] Unknown:
I guess. I didn't know. You know, that's the whole thing. I didn't know. I got them all served. You know? And they all hadn't answered a question or come visit me or stop me or whatever. You know? And they don't I don't think they know what it is, actually.
[02:13:48] Unknown:
I like the nature. Spell it out for them.
[02:13:52] Unknown:
They what now?
[02:13:54] Unknown:
Spell it out.
[02:13:56] Unknown:
Oh, well, I did on my affidavit.
[02:14:02] Unknown:
Yeah. I don't like you said, I don't think they understand what a national is.
[02:14:07] Unknown:
Right. And I don't think they wanna know, to tell you truth.
[02:14:15] Unknown:
Or if they make the first effort, they're gonna end up in America Samoa.
[02:14:22] Unknown:
Well, see, that's the thing. You know, they think it's something else, which it isn't. It is part of The United States.
[02:14:34] Unknown:
Well, and and
[02:14:36] Unknown:
for this NCIS is naval, and I even put in National Criminal Investigation Service. And I'm still getting most commonly refers to the naval criminal investigation. And and and naval naval
[02:14:56] Unknown:
Wow.
[02:14:57] Unknown:
And and the NC and the National Criminal Intelligence Service was a United Kingdom policing agency.
[02:15:07] Unknown:
Oh, that means CIRCO might be involved.
[02:15:10] Unknown:
How about how about DMVs? Because I I'm I've I've when I first got here in Branson, I got an ID, and I, put an affidavit in the in the record, Send it to the headquarters. So that would be one of them. Right?
[02:15:33] Unknown:
I think it's NCIC.
[02:15:44] Unknown:
But, see, I don't think they know the DMV doesn't know any more than the patrolman. You know? Or I say unless they got, you know, interested in investigating me, what is this? You know? Because the lady that was at this, she said, we've never done this before. I said, well, this is not this is an affidavit. They need to have the affidavit in their hands whether they know it or not. I just always wonder what the heck where they call, you know, or what they need to do to find out about the, being a national. Because that's that's critical when you stopped on the road or going to court or whatever. You know?
[02:16:36] Unknown:
That's not how you I see is national crime information center to get information on criminals or missing persons. Or
[02:16:49] Unknown:
Well, we're all criminals. They think.
[02:16:54] Unknown:
Well, we think they all are. So so we're on mutual team there. Right? That's right. Yeah.
[02:17:01] Unknown:
The reason I mentioned NCIC is because I had a friend that got pulled over. I believe he had the wrong tag on the wrong vehicle or something of that nature, and they claimed they were gonna take his license plate and send it into NCIC, if I recall correctly. So that's why I mentioned that. Somehow, they're I felt like they were intertwined, and I could be wrong. I yield.
[02:17:38] Unknown:
Don't forget, enter, Paul.
[02:17:43] Unknown:
Yeah. There you go.
[02:17:48] Unknown:
I want to pop by the rock, Charles.
[02:17:54] Unknown:
Is Paul still on here?
[02:17:59] Unknown:
Mister Beaner?
[02:18:01] Unknown:
Yes.
[02:18:06] Unknown:
He's probably taking care of his cat.
[02:18:09] Unknown:
I hear you. Lisa,
[02:18:14] Unknown:
I sent you a link compliments of lady Linda.
[02:18:25] Unknown:
All the hardworking men taking care of a cat and us too.
[02:18:30] Unknown:
There you go.
[02:18:36] Unknown:
And answering phone calls from people that haven't been on the show in a long time.
[02:18:41] Unknown:
Well, there you go. There he is. I wanted to mention this is Paul from Kentucky.
[02:18:47] Unknown:
Hi there. I spent
[02:18:49] Unknown:
decades in the public relations and media world, and it keeps coming up for me. I do have, with my experience, an opportunity to really put this movement or the, you know, the stuff on the map. Unfortunately, I can't do it without any funding. I mean, it takes funding to fill your tank and go to events and, you know, get out in front of the public and things of that nature. So it does, you know, require some kind of funding. And I guess I just have no even though I've worked with over 300 acts that are arms lengths away from me, when I bring this up to folks in the movement, whether it's on the Rogers sales show or some other calls that I participate in, I just I I it's just like crickets. Like, you know, that nobody cares. So it it's odd when my car breaks down and somebody says, man, I I can fix that. I'm all about how can you do it? When can you do it? And, you know, I have brought it up a half a dozen times on different shows and at least once or twice on Rogers.
I couldn't talk earlier. I would have chimed in. But, you know, you guys are looking for a way. I have the way to to really get this out in mass quantities to the public where they would receive it. The majority would receive it. But I've gotta raise, you know, like a missionary going on a mission field. I've gotta raise some funding to be able to quit working my day job and and go out there and do this thing. And then that's when it becomes crickets. You know? Now if I was willing to self fund it and then just, you know, turn people over to all these people who have these calls and educational things, then everybody's all about it. I also have about $50,000,000 worth of private lawsuits going on that if I could close one of those, that would give me all the funding I need. But when I reach out to people, nobody has time to talk to me except this call here after the main call. Bruce and so many people have been helpful. But the challenge is I'm sitting behind the steering wheel, and I don't really have a chance to write stuff down. But I've tried to speak to some paralegals and some people and and try to talk to people off the show and whatever, and and it it's been a little difficult. So I yield. But I do have I do have a foolproof plan that could put this thing across the nation in about two to four years at the most that would would definitely make it happen.
[02:21:37] Unknown:
Do you think we actually have that time? All by myself. Do I? Do you think we actually have that time? Do you think we have two to four years? Yes.
[02:21:48] Unknown:
Yes and no. As long as Trump's in office, now is the right time. Now is when that tomato or that apple is ripe on the tree or ripe on the vine. He would I think I think with with with a good push in the right direction, Trump would get behind what we're doing. He's trying to do it himself, and he's getting shut down at every, you know, at every corner. So, yes, I believe we definitely have two years to get a jump start on this thing. I think after two years, if the momentum is created properly, no one will be able to stop the momentum. I've seen that megachurches. I've worked with, you know, building, organizations like John Maxwell and different things like that. So I have the experience. I have the knowledge. I'm as knowledgeable about this as Roger is at what he does or what you do or Mark does what he does or or what have you.
It just that for whatever reason, I bring it up and it just falls on deaf ears or people like, that's nice. And I mean, I don't even get somebody to inquire like, okay, Paul. What kind of funding would you need? Okay, Paul. When do you wanna start this? How are you gonna do this? What what what can we do to help you to do this? You know, how can we help you help us? You know, I don't get any of that. It just like so I guess I must not have very credibility, but if you ever went to my Facebook page, anybody from Lady Antebellum, the z z top, I've worked with in helping do public relations prior to COVID. So I have the knowledge of how to make big events happen, how to reach the masses.
Once you get a guy like Kid Rock on your team or Hank Williams junior, God forbid so many of people have died that would have been awesome like a Toby Keith or a Charlie Daniels. You know, this thing would just grow on its own. It would just it would take on its own momentum like rolling a snowball downhill. But for whatever reason, I brought it up a dozen times in different groups, probably at least twice, if not three times here, and it just,
[02:24:04] Unknown:
whatever. You know? Right. So Why don't why don't you why don't you write a song and get one of those artists to sing it?
[02:24:13] Unknown:
Right. You make a deal. Well well, Kid Rock did. He wrote a song if I was president, you know, and all the changes he would make. There's all kinds of songs out there talking about that. I mean You surely got them out to do it to do it. Do what now?
[02:24:35] Unknown:
You surely got the map to sell it.
[02:24:39] Unknown:
Right. I don't have the means. I gotta have the resources.
[02:24:45] Unknown:
You got a pencil, paper piece of paper and a pencil?
[02:24:49] Unknown:
I don't. I'm driving it, down the road, but, if if whatever you need Paul's got my email or I can email Paul when I stop. Yeah. And we could pass on this information. I'll tell you somebody who wrote a great song is, Wendell, what is his name? Oliver. And, he wrote a great song, published it on YouTube, and got a ton of recognition for it. And it it is totally in truce about this country, about people being three hundred pounds living off welfare because they're overweight. She did. And he's paying for it. And he's paying for it. You know? I don't remember the whole song off the top of my head. Feel it? But I just wanna put that out there again. I felt today would have been a great opportunity to to put it out there. And, unfortunately, I was tied up where I couldn't I couldn't, jump on the call and talk.
But, you know, I would definitely be in and I'm working on it on my own. I'm working on draw drumming up some support. But it's just it's just You know, it's kinda like, it's just kinda sad that I get more interest from people, you know, in the neighborhood or whatever than I do people who are passionate about this, like, people on this call. So, you know, I would love to be able to, you know, maybe talk to you or Roger sometime or Bruce or or maybe after the call, have a little meeting. But, yeah, I could get this thing done in two to five years at the most, just depending on how much funding I have and and how quick I can get after it.
And people want this, but, you know, nobody's, you know, making a, you know, a a an extended effort at the moment. I mean, we're all doing our part, which, like I say, this is the greatest call ever. I've said that every time I've been on here. So I yield. But, Bruce, if you have something you need to send me, I'm sorry. I'm not readily available with a pencil, but I can definitely get it through Paul if you email him or he can give you my email address. I'll I'll make sure you can have my contact. And any any ideas anyone has, I'm open minded to. But I could definitely get it done. And it's not just my mouth. It's my connections, my knowledge, how to make this thing happen.
We could rock it out.
[02:27:31] Unknown:
You know, if we could have only talked to, we could have only talked to, who is it, Wesley Snipes
[02:27:38] Unknown:
before the IRS went after him? Well, I think he did it wrong, didn't he? That's everybody brings him up. But I feel like from what I've listened to, he did it wrong, and everybody's trying to make an example. Well, I don't wanna do it like him. Well, you don't do it like him. Yeah. Yeah. He definitely has given this I wouldn't say he's given this movement a bad name, but what happened has sort of given this boot movement a bad rap. But, again, he didn't follow the rules, and and that's what happens when you don't. Just like if you're any of this stuff that we do. If you don't if you don't play by the rules, it it could get you in trouble and not yield.
[02:28:17] Unknown:
Mhmm. Willie Nelson is another one. Wish we could've gotten a hold of him in time.
[02:28:22] Unknown:
Oh, I I got a connection with him. I do have a connection with Willie. And Willie only paid the price to keep the peace. He didn't pay the price because he believed in it at all. He felt that was the biggest fraud and the biggest, you know basically, he was held at gunpoint. They robbed him is what he is the way he puts it. David Allen knows he feels the same way.
[02:28:50] Unknown:
They did rob him.
[02:28:52] Unknown:
Well yeah. But, I mean, that's what I'm saying. He he doesn't feel like he did something good for the country. He feels like they they just robbed him. But, you know, the good thing is is kinda like what I'm trying to what I'm wanting to do. You know, he got out there and the people got behind him and he raised that money. And, you know, he showed them that the people do care and the people don't believe in what you're doing, but but we're gonna pay you to go away like hush money. I yield.
[02:29:21] Unknown:
Right.
[02:29:22] Unknown:
Yep. So, I mean, he got his point across quietly and and humbly instead of, you know, going head to head. You know? So I I admire Willie for that. I really do. And his and his people admired him. His his supporters admired him. I yield.
[02:29:43] Unknown:
Okay.
[02:29:54] Unknown:
That's a good point too, by the way, Paul. Thank you for bringing that up.
[02:29:59] Unknown:
Mhmm.
[02:30:05] Unknown:
Ona, have you, presented any of this information to any of your contacts?
[02:30:12] Unknown:
If you're speaking to me, yes. I'm working on building a team of people here locally in the Kentucky, Indiana area. We've really gotten serious about it. We feel like Oregon is really working hard to restore the republic in Oregon, And so that's kind of got me excited about doing this. But as far as, anybody who hosts these calls, there's several different calls out there. You know, just in generalities bringing it up, nobody says a word. Nobody goes, wow. That's interesting. Really? Well, we need to talk offline or we need to, you know, you need to email me or whatever. It's just like, you know, you know, I mean, you know, I I I just I guess maybe it's the way I presented or the fact that nobody knows me or whatever. They just they don't even take any inquiry till today. Today, I feel like I've gotten the most interest, upon doing this. But, but, yeah, I'd love to I'd love to get out there and get this thing done.
There's tons of people, that are are very interested, and and I need to do it myself. I really I've heard I've taught I've been on 10 different calls, and I've heard 10 different ways to, get your American National set up. And so I don't even really know a 100% the proper way, but I need to do that myself. I need to I need to follow through and connect all the dots. Mhmm. I started down one road, then I stopped.
[02:31:51] Unknown:
Well, everything we do here is self funded. Everything. Yeah. Yeah. I've I've funded this for years. And now I'm finally to the point where where I'm breaking even, you know, with what I spend on the show. So, I mean Right. I,
[02:32:10] Unknown:
I this is this is really a movement And I don't I don't know what your budget is, but I'm saying this would take the this would go into the hundreds of thousands to travel across the nation, set up at these big events, do all this stuff. If if it was and I'm not saying you're discounting what you do, Paul. We really appreciate that. I mean, I'm telling you, I I appreciate it myself, and I didn't know it was self funded. But, I'm just saying it it it's not it's not cheap at all what I what the mission I wanna do. And if I don't do it that way, I won't get the recognition from these these Well other people. But Tell you what you do.
[02:32:53] Unknown:
You've got connected to all these guys that have that may have a nest egg or something like that that may want to fund you promoting this, then maybe that'll work. But as far as what I do with the show, it costs me $2,600 a year just to do what I do. Now that's an outgo. And people contribute using, using GoFundMe. People contribute, and it kinda works out in the wash. You know? Sometimes I spend more, sometimes I spend less. So that's the way things are going on. So if you know Kid Rock or if you know Willie Nelson or if you know somebody that's got a few bucks to throw at it that'll that'll line your pocket with it, more power to you, man. Go for it. But I don't think you're gonna get anything shaking any trees here from this core group because we're all in the same boat. That from this
[02:33:54] Unknown:
right. And I am not asking for that. And if if that's what you heard, I I wanna clean that up right now. What I'm saying is is that when I brought it forward before in all groups, they just kinda they don't say a word. They're not like, wow, man. You know these people. And the challenge I would have is it would be risky in my opinion to ask them to do that at this moment because these are more like people that if you're doing it, they'll come along and help. But they don't wanna be the only one stepping forward. And if if these groups don't get behind me, even just behind me, just to support me and say, hey, Paul. How's the fundraising going? Hey, Paul. What what you know, is there something I can do to help you get your American National so that you can teach others or whatever?
If that doesn't happen, well, then they're not gonna be interested because they're gonna be like, well, if those people aren't interested in helping you, why should we? Even if it's a good cause. And they and and and they are kinda cynical like that. Mhmm. I mean, the reason Willie got behind Farm Aid is because the farmers really needed them, and the farmers were getting a bad, bad, bad deal. So Willie stepped up and and did that. But the farmers also got behind Willie and and helped helped back. You know? So Mhmm.
You know, when Willie said, hey. I can help you. They didn't go, you know? And that's kinda what I've been getting on these calls. Although Bruce and and mister Garcia and so many people have been very helpful with my court cases, I can't thank them enough, and I appreciate that. I just I want to kinda put that out there and and see if if there's a heartbeat. You know? But I'm also a lot more excited about it now than I I ever have been. And I'm I'm building a team of five or six people that we're gonna try to do some fundraising and and and make it happen.
But, and and, you know, I'm gonna encourage you, Paul. Maybe from time to time, put it out there about what your expenses are. And $2,600 a year, I I'd be happy to help out with that, because I I appreciate all you guys do. I really do. And it was only $2,600 a year. I could get that funded pretty easy, but I'm probably talking about 260,000 a year.
[02:36:25] Unknown:
Yeah. I would I would I would rather not beg for money. I'd rather not ask for it. Well, not beg. You know? People Just just have a. Have a. Well well, let me finish. You know, people know that this costs money. You know? People know what the Right. This costs money. And my attitude is every time I ask for money, somebody would wanna give it but doesn't have it. And I would not wanna make them feel bad by asking for money. Yeah. So I don't do that. I never do that, unless unless I'm in a situation where where something's desperate or something could actually compromise the availability of the show if something was to Right. Like, if the computer was to go down or something like that. Yeah. And you need a brand new I got you. Okay. So then that would be the case. But as far as, you know I mean, I'll limit my grocery shopping trips to once every couple of months. I can do that.
You know? I Yeah. I see. I can, I can use LED light bulbs and and, you know, you know, watch the old electric bill? I can do that shit just to make room for the computer that runs this without having to ask for money. I'll just simply do with do without something else. It's not a big deal. Right. But like I said, I will not be asking for money unless it's absolutely desperate. I will not ask for money because I know that the great people in this group would want to send money. And if they couldn't afford to, it would make them feel bad, and I would never do that. So that's not gonna happen. Okay. So when you come when you come into this group talking about, well, there's gonna have to be fundraising. Well, ain't nobody here got a pot to piss in or a window to throw it out of. So even if you Yeah. Even if you mention fundraising. So even if you mention fundraising, people's eyes start glazing over, and they start kinda Yeah. Kinda leaning back a little bit, kinda trying to distance themselves from their own speaking. I see. So Thank you. That's where we're coming from. I'm just kind of explaining what goes on here.
[02:38:36] Unknown:
Right. Right. Well, it's good to know all that. It it definitely, I appreciate you, inform you know, sharing all that with me. It it really helps me out to better understand because, I I really appreciate this group and and some other groups are pretty good too as well. And and I guess I need to watch what I say too so that people don't misunderstand when I say that, you know, my budget to do this is gonna be 250,000, I'm not asking your group to pay for that. But I I'm just letting them know that I have a plan, and and the plane can work. And that's conservative. That that would be doing it on a very conserve and it sounds like a lot of money. But, you know, some of these places to host an event are $3,000.
But you might get three or 400 or 500 people who would be interested in, you know, and not interested, but would would be willing to do this or maybe even more. I'm just throwing out some numbers there. You know? Mhmm. So you know? Oh. And and that would be huge. That would be huge for this this movement if we could, you know, get, you know, 10,000 people a year or whatever. You know?
[02:39:52] Unknown:
I would suggest that, risks for people like this aren't gonna get any less. They're gonna get worse. But if you targeted people who are already in that risk category like a Stu Peters, who's got a big platform Mhmm. Maybe that would be a place to go.
[02:40:13] Unknown:
Yeah. No. I agree. And like you say, that's what I'm working on now. And, I'm glad Paul is giving me a wealth of information to move forward with. So I don't, whether it's accidentally or negligently step on people's toes or rub people the wrong way or give them the wrong impression, I'm not here to ask for money. I just like a little moral support.
[02:40:40] Unknown:
Mhmm.
[02:40:41] Unknown:
So but but I do understand now, Paul, a 100% why I'm getting the, why why I'm getting the responses I'm getting. The the button definitely went off, and I thank you for that.
[02:40:55] Unknown:
Yeah. There's there's just, there ain't no money. If there was money, that wouldn't be a problem.
[02:41:02] Unknown:
So I see your point of view, and I yield. I yield.
[02:41:06] Unknown:
Alright.
[02:41:08] Unknown:
Thank you. You're welcome. You probably don't get many people to thank you when you tell them everything they don't wanna hear, but you're absolutely correct. I yield.
[02:41:27] Unknown:
No. Thank you. Hey. Hey. Hey. Another quest question. Would you mind going over going over and on what you're, what you're present what just a tidbit of what you're doing doing.
[02:41:48] Unknown:
Well, my goal would be to, and and that's why I say I really need to do it myself. My goal would be to go out to restore the republic, and I would do that through big events like music events, motorcycle rallies, state fairs, any kind of a big event where I can get in, you know, to set up a booth and and educate the public on, you know, becoming American national, possibly setting up a trust if that's important to you, and what your god given unalienable rights are. And this this this the country is ripe for that right now. It really is. It's more ripe than we really know, but I think Mark said it best himself.
We're just not reaching the masses. And he's right. And we need to we need to, you know, we need to reach the masses, and and that's where, you know, my connections can come into play. And and once I I get the ball rolling and it's it's happened that way in the music business a thousand times. People, you know, musicians, they starve, they sleep on park benches, under bridges, whatever, and they don't give up, and then somebody reaches down and helps them. And so if I get out there and I'd be and I'd be loyal to this and do my due diligence, it will come. What's the old saying in Field of Dreams? If you build it, it will come. But everything that you all talk about on the show, there are people hungry for that. And I do my best to promote it, but I'm doing it at a very small scale. So if I could get out, reach out, and talk to three to 5,000 people a week at a bike rally or at a state fair or some kind of an event like that, you know, the awareness would just blow through the roof, which might cause another problem because I don't know the platform that you all operate on. We might overload it. You know?
[02:43:55] Unknown:
Know? Steve Steve Peters reaches something like 1,600,000 people. Some of his his regular cast are about forty, fifty thousand, and his, some of his hits have been up to 500,000, and he's not afraid to speak out. He is
[02:44:12] Unknown:
the tribe's number one target right now. So Now did he he passed away or no? Did I misunderstand
[02:44:19] Unknown:
that? You don't know who Stu Peters is, obviously.
[02:44:23] Unknown:
I don't. Yeah. You should look him up. I will. I will. I'll be happy to. And, obviously, he didn't he didn't reach me. So so that means there's still work to do out there.
[02:44:37] Unknown:
Well, he's been throttled by everybody because he's anti Palestine and Trump and stuff right now for not, you know, doing what he thinks is proper. I mean, he's a terrible critic of Trump. He's a terrible critic of our imperial status in all the rest of the world, including what we're getting ready to do in Venezuela. So he's not popular. Okay. He still has a lot of people that listen to him, and I think it's the kind of people I think it's the kind of people who would listen to this message.
[02:45:11] Unknown:
I got you. Yes. And you're probably right.
[02:45:15] Unknown:
So I'm gonna appreciate you. What about Jimmy Doar?
[02:45:19] Unknown:
Yep. That's the one That'd be another guy.
[02:45:22] Unknown:
That'd be another guy. Exactly. I mean, you know, look what what when Roger went on John b Wells, I think John, b Wells' ball shrunk, and, he, just sort of like, I don't think I wanna go there. We need somebody with some testosterone. I would suggest the the two gentlemen we just mentioned as being the kind of people that should be targeted with this message because they're already in that critical area. And and Doris does travel, the nation as a comedian. So he gets a a an in a national and international audience as well.
I don't know what his numbers are, but I'm sure they're probably in that area of the of Stu Peters.
[02:46:21] Unknown:
He has, he has 1.6, million subscriber in YouTube.
[02:46:28] Unknown:
Most of the people want free stuff. They don't wanna be free. You know? Yeah.
[02:46:34] Unknown:
That's right.
[02:46:39] Unknown:
Free is unnecessary because you have to be dependent on yourself. Free stuff.
[02:46:44] Unknown:
I want free stuff.
[02:46:49] Unknown:
I'll go pick it up.
[02:46:52] Unknown:
Well, if you can't get, Willie Nelson to write a song about nationals, you might try Jesse Wells.
[02:47:03] Unknown:
Free stuff.
[02:47:26] Unknown:
Stu's a good speaker. I mean, he, if he wants to lay it on, he can lay it on pretty heavy and be an on stop advocate for a cause. He's not shy. I'm I'm just thinking that, you know, this is the kind of person that would take the heat because he wants to get his country back.
[02:47:53] Unknown:
Yeah. He definitely is a bulldog. And what? He got kicked off the Alex Jones show. He can't go back there no more because of all the good things he was saying about those, or about the tribe.
[02:48:08] Unknown:
Yep. That's my point. I don't trust people like Jones. They're just not willing to speak out on one of the biggest problems we got.
[02:48:26] Unknown:
Yeah. Folks like Candace Owens and Tucker would be another good but there's a bunch of presenters out there that would all I mean, everybody could fare well on this on this, platform. They just don't see it. I don't it's good behind well, people are where they're at, I guess. There's nothing you can do about it. But I I think from from a public relations standpoint,
[02:48:55] Unknown:
dropping the national is probably wise and going to a Californian or a state citizen because people can wrap their minds around that. And just explain that that's what we were prior to the civil war. We were state citizens. We weren't a federalized one group. We're all individ you you just The United States Of America. Right? And United was that lowercase prior to the civil war and upper after. Just point details like that. I the the national thing is too hard to educate people on, And it they've got it hidden so well in the American Samoan and everything, you know, to tell the story about, you know, Lee telling Lincoln that his country is in the Confederacy, and he can't fight for the union.
[02:49:58] Unknown:
It was a state, Virginia.
[02:50:01] Unknown:
That was a nation. Yeah. What exactly. That people can understand, but they this national thing, I think, is very difficult to explain to people. I think it's better that we go with state citizen and and point out the the time period that it changed.
[02:50:23] Unknown:
Somewhere. It's not that hard because I don't even from here, and I understand it. You know?
[02:50:30] Unknown:
Yeah. Understanding it. Are two different things, Rory. To prove the national is much harder, in my opinion, than proving this state citizen. We've got the cases that point out the state citizen. We don't have any cases that point out the national. And And they need to be a rebel. To rebel or gonna want to know that and wrap their heads around it. We can't even agree on this show what a national is half the time. So
[02:50:56] Unknown:
Well, you just described what a national was. And and and and South Carolina, my ancestors met as a community. All the people in the community voted on succeeding from the nation. We brought up the document, presented it to the legislative branches of South Carolina, and they accepted it. And that was the first Confederate state. We did it. Abby Billings did it. Samuel. That's That's part of it. Go
[02:51:26] Unknown:
ahead. One way that I have been able to approach people is I try many different ways. And I used to work with a public relation. And, it's getting the passport, and I show them it's two different, citizens. And when you say citizen slash national, that opens their eye because there's something physical, a a passport. But when you try many other ways, it's really hard. And that really I have been able to get into conversation. They start asking me more details and all that. But the problem I see is the nation. Most of the people are ingrained into the system, and they don't wanna let it go.
They don't wanna go let go of their lifestyle,
[02:52:07] Unknown:
their debts I or whatever. Jesse, I used to use that as an example, and I think you're right still. I think for what we're talking about here for public relations, to talking to a crowd, like, that might be viewing a Stu Peter show. I think if you get down to the simpler basis of it and not the new one that they've created and stay with the old state citizen, I think that's wiser. That's all. As as far as clarity and understanding it.
[02:52:43] Unknown:
Yeah. I sort of agree with you. We gotta get that. But it's really hard. You know, when when somebody calls here and, and and their first, time is I'm not saying that's a wrong thing, but there's a what do I have to do to, get me out of the tax system. You know, to me, that gets me really creepy because the reason that you wanna become a natural is freedom. And, obviously, the income tax and all this is not paying. It's part of your freedom. But, it's just I don't know. It's the underlying reason that you wanna is to be under God and and you are a true speaker and and you wanna be free. And then everything else is a bonus. I understand that, but it's just the wrong way to look at things.
You desire. You want to be free. You don't want nobody to tell you. You wanna be under God. It's just the moral decay. People don't understand me the word conserve, conservative, and other things. It's just really hard to get through them. And they've been, hook link with this, democrat and republican. You know, one's liberal and one's conservative. And if you don't vote to the conservative side, you're not conservative. They don't even know what they're saying. It's just really tough. It's tough. When you're trying to explain what national is, it's like it's like an alien to them. So we do need something that looks official like Jimmy Dore or Peter Stewart or something, a high media something. When they see it through that media channel, then, oh, it must be true. And then probably if they're really looking.
Or they have to lose everything. The country have to lose that. The economy has to go collapse completely, and then they start looking somewhere else.
[02:54:32] Unknown:
Yeah. It'd be good to have a little bit of foundation prior to that. Even if the if these attempts fail, it's still a seed planted.
[02:54:45] Unknown:
Well, one thing they need to find out is how powerful the the affidavit is. That is the the the, bologna be in the sandwich. You put the affidavit out there, and you got it made, and you get a different feeling. I mean, totally different feeling than I ever had in anything I've ever done in in law. Even getting judges off the bench. I felt free when I did that. I need the powerful the power that had, and it energized me. I just I when I saw that affidavit, I said, man, I know about that. I I did it right then and there. I didn't waste my time. But it took me twenty years to get there.
[02:55:29] Unknown:
Bruce, let me tell you a little story that just happened to me this week yesterday, in fact. I'm smoking for my first time, a Cuban cigar celebrating with tobacco. And, we have a various little young little boys and girls, and they were born and national birth, no hospital, no birth certificate, and so on and so on and so on. And then some family members and neighbors and all, church members, all this, The when we're gonna apply for the passport, they thought we were crazy because you gotta have your birth certificate and all this stuff. And, you have prenatal care, and, if they see a doctor, blah blah blah, Especially what happened to us, and some of you know our story.
But, we we apply, and they're all basically applied within the same week. And they got, took long. It took about nine months to get them. Alright. At the begin at at the beginning, it was hard for them to get their passport. Yeah. But one of them got lost over two years and a half. We've been to three regional force general. We've been to three regional, past four agents. We inquire in that number they give dozens of times. We have sent paper. We have sent thirty day notice with timelines and everything and so on and so on. Finally finally, it looks like the law says we sent, thirty day notice, to the the one that was processing us in Arizona. Mhmm. We sent it to, Marco Rubio, and we sent it to the one in Washington, DC.
Nothing worked. And then finally, we had to we went about a month to a month ago, we went to, one of the senators and saying, you know, nobody answered us. Nobody this and this. And, in forty eight hours, we got an answer. Okay. Thank you. So they inquired for us. I have to, get some documents and all this to make this story a little bit shorter. Then we went again. We're able to cancel. Oh, we lost all your paper. It's a lie. They just didn't wanna do it in Arizona. So they just just have two years. We have everything certified, mailed, and all these things. And, so they canceled it, and we wanted to cancel it. And we went back to another regional, passport now in person. We don't trust no more mailing or or have interaction with them to mail or calling that gatekeeper calling number they give passport.
And we went there. And the reason I'm telling you this story, the passport agent, Natalia, we went in there. They started to say, well, have they have a prenatal care. Has, he'd seen a doctor, that little baby, of course. And, now he's basically two and a half years old. And and, has he taken the vaccine? And that was really creepy. So what what do you mean? I'm just applying. You are you taking the vaccines? And we just stay firm, and we say the only thing you need to know is your national paper is here. Here's the the documents you need without birth certificate.
Here's the Social Security under pressure. He does have one. And here are the eyewitness of three different affidavits. Eyewitness that's all. Most people don't understand the power of the affidavit. They have a form of that. And we're getting three eyewitness with other person say, and they try to delay or not. No. We want it now. Well, you have to come, two days from now at 02:30. We don't call you, and we got the passport. It was really hard. Freedom has a cost. We have to spend money, time losing a job, traveling twelve hours to a different regional, calling, sending the it's hard, but that affidavit made the difference without a person.
[02:59:32] Unknown:
Okay, guys. There you go. I'm gonna have to jump in here and interrupt you because I gotta take the stream down. So, and I'm trying to get it down before 02:00. This has been the Radio Ranch with Roger Sales on eurofolkradio.com, radio.globalvoiceradio.net, rumble.globalvoiceradio.net. Love all you guys over there too. Catch us here Monday through Saturday, 11AM to 1PM eastern. Our website is thematrixdocs.com, thematrixdocs,uh,.com, and, you can find a new student section, interviews, downloadables, exhibits, books, resources.
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[03:00:51] Unknown:
Bye bye, boys. Have fun storming the castle.
Opening roll call, affiliates, and freedom mission
Inviting newcomers and show ground rules
Election chatter and people leaving New York
Voting rules, Texas IDs, and Abbott critiques
Virginia results, rigging claims, and political despair
Plano Muslim community debate and culture wars
Jan 6 revelations segment and nonlethal weapons claims
Audience growth, show metrics, and UPS plane crash news
Hour two handoff and IRS abuse discussion setup
Canada provinces talk and US state splits
Host’s expatriation reflections and preparedness talk
Best countries to relocate: Ecuador, Paraguay, more
New caller Alma begins national status journey
Guidance for families, affidavits, and passports
After show begins; logistics, Zoom, and platforms
NCIC/NCIS confusion and law enforcement databases
Media outreach, funding, and movement strategy debate
Targeting influencers and messaging: state citizen vs national
Affidavit power and difficult passport cases
Closing credits and schedule reminder
