We welcomed new voices, highlighted grassroots organizing with constitutional sheriffs, and shared study resources (AAMVA, FOMC/OBFR, Coach Dave, Common Lawyer, and more). If you’re serious about standing on your rights, documenting status, and building resilient local networks—this episode is a toolbox and a pep talk rolled into one.
- 'The Matrix Docs (show materials, exhibits, and Roger’s book PDF)': https://thematrixdocs.com
- 'FreeConferenceCall (listener call‑in platform)': https://www.freeconferencecall.com
- 'Synergy Spanish (language course mentioned)': https://synergyspanish.com
- 'Coach Dave Live (Coach Dave Daubenmire)': https://coachdavelive.com
- 'American Association of Motor Vehicle Administrators (AAMVA)': https://www.aamva.org
- 'Federal Open Market Committee (FOMC) – official overview': https://www.federalreserve.gov/monetarypolicy/fomc.htm
- 'Overnight Bank Funding Rate (OBFR) – Federal Reserve': https://www.federalreserve.gov/monetarypolicy/overnight-bank-funding-rate.htm
- 'Bank for International Settlements (BIS)': https://www.bis.org
- '18 U.S. Code § 241 – Conspiracy against rights (LII)': https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/241
- '42 U.S. Code § 1983 – Civil action for deprivation of rights (LII)': https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/42/1983
- 'Common Lawyer (Brent Winters)': https://commonlawyer.com
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Yes. Remember the other verses? They've got some other pretty good verses on that song everywhere freaks and harries, dykes, and fairies. Tell me where is sanity? Here, we can offer you a little sanity here at the Radio Ranch. We're happy to do so. Hopefully, you're receptive, and we will do so again today on this Tuesday edition, the November 4. Roger Sales, your host at the Radio Ranch. They are looking for sanity in, New York City, New Jersey, and Virginia today, evidently. From what I'm told, Paul, would you come in and please give credit to the people that help us extend our reach?
Credit, they need recognition.
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It's a light contingent today. We have radiosoapbox.com, thanks to Paul English, our buddy across the pond. We have eurofolkradio.com brought to us by pastor Eli James. That is our flagship platform, of course. We're mirrored on radio.globalvoiceradio.net, the Global Voice Radio Network. And we're also on rumble.globalvoiceradio.net. You can jump in there and, see,
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check out the live chat going on. I can send a chat. Yeah. You can send the question there.
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Yeah. Well, I I tend to not monitor those too much because I really don't have the system resources to be monitoring that stream on that end because I'm monitoring it elsewhere. But you can certainly grab the link to free conference call from our website, thematrixstocks.com, thematrixd0cs.com. And you can jump in there with, a computer's smartphone or tablet app and play in the chat there with a bunch of people and all kinds of questions and, you know, supported information for, like, what we're talking about on the show. There are there are links periodically there for, deeper dives into what we're doing.
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Okay.
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And the listeners certainly dive deep and everything we're talking about, you can you can talk on for between ten minutes and two hours or more. Go ahead, Paul. Sorry to interrupt.
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That's true. If somebody is just listening to the stream or if they're just listening to the archive, they really miss out on a lot of the, the stuff that, winds up in the chat. And I do actually capture the chat messages, and they wind up on the screen in rumble, but you really can't do anything with them. You have to retype the links, whatever. So whatever.
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Okay. Whatever works. Well, and Alan's, Alan's still fighting something, some kind of litigious activity?
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I've I haven't talked to him for a couple of days. I really don't know what he's doing. Okay. So, he is, he's trying to set up, 247365 broadcasting services, and he's trying to drag me into there as, like, not only a platform, but a content creator, and I just don't have the time for it. You know? So,
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well, we're working on it. I hope Alan isn't spending all this time on that litigious stuff. Not that it it may wouldn't end up good for him, and I hope so. You know? Mhmm. But, man, anytime you get into that stuff and you're like us kinda common people That control such a nightmare. Well, it just steals your life, literally. Yeah. But, anyway, hopefully, the whatever rewards Alan gets out of that will be equal to the effort the and the sacrifices he made to do it.
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Right. Well, what you said yesterday is absolutely true. The only thing you can take from a man that he can never get back is time. Is time. That's a very, very profound statement right there. Absolutely.
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Should I tell you where that came from? Please.
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I'm a very interesting fellow. You know, the record business is full of characters, was back then. And one of them was a fellow that uttered that, that told me that. His name was Jimmy Davenport. And this guy had the most amazing he he had been a salesman at a little radio station out in Marietta, Georgia there in the Northwest part of Atlanta Mhmm. Called WFOM. A little old short tower, and he was a salesman and the gal that was the owner's, quote, unquote, secretary girlfriend, well, the guy died and he had no heirs. And so he left it to them.
And she or he connived her out of her ownership. Oh, wow. Really? And and and own the station. Now in the record business in those days, the the really criteria for you being a high visibility radio station in the music radio days was if you, subscribe to these things called tip sheets. And you have you have the regular record World Cash Box billboard. Those are trade industry publications. These tip sheets were different animal, and, there's two or three of them. One of them was in New Jersey, and the other one is in San Francisco. And, the stations that were clear leaders in their area would do a subscribe to those tip sheets, and they would report on a weekly basis what they did with their music list, what records they added, what records they moved up, what records dropped, etcetera, etcetera.
And so the whole record business was skewed around those tip sheets because they were considered to be so important. And so don't forget that no Internet back in the seventies. And so, what would happen was every Monday, then radio stations would do their music business early in the week on Mondays, generally. Sometimes Tuesdays, they'd add records. But the whole thing was formulated so they could get that information back to these tip sheets. The tip sheets could could accumulate all that information and give everybody in the industry from record companies to other radio stations what was the trends in the most important stations in the country. And, so therefore, they had to turn around and get that information back to those sheets early enough in that week where they could do all the compiling and printing and put everything in the mail and then get it mailed out, or the stations would have it on Monday morning, or they could use it to formulate what records they were looking at.
So the whole industry was formed around that. K? And, so, anyway, that's the way it used to work. And, so consequently, you'd have to go in and see all your stations on Monday or the few that did it on Tuesday, And then you'd have to you'd have to call them to promote what you were promoting, and then you'd have to call back on Wednesday to see what they did. So our job was to contact all those radio stations twice a week, and I had, at least for the first four years, I was with Mercury at four and a half states. In the Southeast, there's a bunch of little radio stations in the Southeast, and they like to get on those tip sheets because then they get the attention of the record company guys. Then they make sure they get all the goodies and the phone calls and the contact, and they come to see you and take you out to dinner and all that stuff.
So that's the way the whole industry was formed and to get that information back in and then to get get it back to your company by Wednesday and back to these tip sheets, and that made the whole business run. It was kinda interesting because it wasn't what you thought it was. You thought it was billboard and cash box and it wasn't at all. It was these tip sheets over here, which were controlling everything. Right. Now what they do here's what the independent this is the dirty part of the business, particularly a bad one in Philadelphia. Guy that got in and got control of the major radio station, the program director, the music director, whoever controlled the records going on.
And then if they had some big hit, they would through their connection there excuse me. They would have the independent promotion guy who they were paying big money to go in and tell the guy that he had the lock on, the music director or the program director, not to add that record. So as the rest of the country filled up with all the stations on some big hit record, whatever it is, And it's going up the charts, and there's one big hole like an important market like Philadelphia. And you're paying the guy to tell the record guy to to the music guy to keep it off the playlist.
So there's all kinds of backdoor shenanigans going in that business. It's tremendously dirty. And, anyway, so that I don't know where that came from this morning, but that's the way the business used to work. Now then we had a guy named Newt Gingrich who did in lame duck session, in the nineties, did a deal where they, got rid of the restrictions on ownership of media accounts. And you used to get on 12/12. It started 07/07 and '7, 7AM, seven FM, seven TVs. Then it went to 12:12 and twelve, and then and Newt Gingrich just opened it up period where you get big outfits like Cumulus and these others that own a 120 radio stations now. So somebody in the music industry, you don't have to go to all those stations. They just go to one guy because he dictates what all those other stations in the corporation are playing. And that's Newt Gingrich for you right there. Deregulation.
Yes, Paul.
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The fear I mean, I may be a conspiracy nut or whatever, but the very first thing that hit my mind when you were talking about tip sheets is that would have been a vehicle where a small number of people that had control over the tabulation of that information could promote or deny certain artists or promoters over others, and they could change the absolute landscape
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of the music industry. And it may have been down in New Jersey. Well, the the one out of New Jersey may have. I can't remember the name of his tip sheet. The one out of California was called the Gavin Report. It was at Embarcadero Square out there, nice little pricey neighborhood in San Francisco, and they were considered to be very honest and very straightforward. And, of course, when deregulation came along, all that went out the window. So that's why the music scape has changed so much. These kind of factors right there. And Well, really So, anyway, good morning. Good morning. Didn't they just didn't they
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I mean, if you talk about me if you look at music between the sixties, the seventies, and the eighties, and the changes that it went through, I would bet you dollars to Skittles that the tip sheets is what they used to manipulate the music genres that were popular.
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Well, there could have been could have been. I don't know. I'm sure, like I said, the one in New Jersey, kinda shaky. The one on the West Coast, much more solid and firm and much more reputable. But, anyway, those days are long gone. And, the but I was there in the whole seventies. I was in radio, got into radio, and then spent my record career in the seventies, the whole decade, which was, I guess, as you look back, the highlight of the music industry. It was real music back then. It wasn't any of this rap crap, which is nothing but rhythm. It's not music. It's really not melody lines. It's rap driven. It's And, that's where I just felt dirty, man. I felt dirty after all those years and knowing about all that stuff and participating in some of it.
You know, going in and teaching these kids that were paying a lot of money to go through this accredited school there with a music curriculum at the Art Institute of Atlanta, just knowing that there were no jobs out there for them. It's a very, very, back in those days, very small industry. And here, these guys did a school to tell people how to get into the music business, and there's no jobs. Right. Pardon me.
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Rap rap for the most part, with the exception of rappers like Tom McDonald, is nothing more than bitching to a beat. Mhmm.
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I agree with that. I'm calling people ugly names. So, anyway, welcome to the radio ranch. This is not a, this is not a, you know, look back on the music industry that just came to my mind this morning, and, people had no idea how those things operated in the past. I can tell you. Remember when, Jimmy Carter was going out of office and Reagan was coming in and inflation was rampant and all that stuff, Paul? Remember that? Mhmm. Well, before that, there were 28 jobs of people that I, like, did what I did in Atlanta. And after that, there were eight. Wow. That's what it did to the music business. It decimated those small labels.
So, anyway, good morning. Good morning. I hope, if you're in, new new now in this election, Paul, are they voting in just in New York City? They're not voting for Hochul or something. They're just for the mayor of New York City, the the Arab. Right? I've I've
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I've I have no clue.
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Okay. Well, you're you're, well, you're out in the yahoos of New York. So where you are, they're not lining up at the,
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at the bowling place, I assume. No. I'm in Central New York, 4 And A Half Hours away from Buffalo, five and a half hours away from New York City, and an hour and a half away from Canada. Good grief.
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So Man, I'm not sure which of those three is the worst.
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I don't know. But I do know that I am within the constitution freeze zone, apparently. Go south. 100 miles. Go south. Yeah. Go south. Apparently, a 100 miles from any border is constitution free.
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Okay. We'll get to the get to Georgia, Paul. I'm not sure the way Georgia is going, how much better that is, but I think it'll be better for you. Well, I'd be two hundred two hundred miles away from
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from the Atlantic, so I'd be all better. Uh-huh.
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Okay. You know, they say Atlanta is good good morning, Julie. You know, they say Atlanta is have the capabilities to be the largest city in the world because it can grow 250 miles in any direction, although they have great water limitations. Morning, Julie.
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I think that was Robbie.
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Good morning, Raj.
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Well, sounds like Julie. I they you know, when they just come in with a short burst, they sound like, good morning, Robbie. How you doing? It make never mind.
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Pardon me? It make no. Never mind. I just have some great news to share in case anybody hasn't heard. The great Dick Cheney has met his maker.
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The ticker finally gave out. Well, well, I I don't I don't know what to say. He's certainly a despicable individual. Amen. Satan hopefully, Satan will have his way with him, as he has had while he was here, with us on this, great mortal coil. So, anyway, well, thank you, Robbie, for that news update. Sure there'll be a lot of people joining us. Timex. Yeah. Well, you know the old joke, Dave, if you wanna get a heart transplant, you'd like to have Cheney's because his has been so little used, but that probably didn't pan out to that probably didn't pan out today too well. Okay. Do we know how old he was, Robbie?
Robbie, do we know his age? 88 or something? I tell you what. I don't know, but he sure sewed a lot of crap while he was here.
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84. 84. He only made it to 84. 1984.
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That's a good year for that son of a bitch to check out.
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You're not a good man. Not a good man. His daughter is not a good person. I don't know about his wife. You gotta consider she probably of that ilk also.
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She got any other news. She bore them. The fruit don't fall far from the tree. Right?
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That's what they say, Davo. Any other news breaks out there from the audience? Any other important things happening today?
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I'll tell you what, Raj, here in Michigan, they're trying to pass a bill to for a hunting license, a $100 a season. And if you want, they call it a it's been so long since I hunted. They call it a a combo license. So it's bow and gun and small game, I think. And it's a hunt they want a $150. They want to bust they want us to stop hunting. Because who the hell can afford a $150 to go hunting? That's insane.
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Your your guitar player up there, Ken. Who's your Ted Nugent? Ted Nugent, that guy. He can. Yeah. He's in
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Texas now. He I mean, he has his property here still. I'm sure he comes back to, you know, to hunt, but he probably doesn't need a license anymore. I don't know. But, he likes to fly around in a helicopter and shoot hogs.
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I don't blame him. You ever see that? Fun. Yes. I have. I think that'd be a great deal of fun, and you're really helping, helping the people out there. Well, so that's for residents. Right?
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Yep. Yes.
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And non residents, it's gonna be even higher. About about three to four hundred. Well, that means you, the king doesn't want you poaching in there on his lands and getting his game. Ain't that what that means? Right. We got paying the big price. That's right.
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Well, they're claiming, you know, oh, they haven't had a, an increase in the in the DNR budget, you know, in so many years, and this will really make up for lost time. It's like, you know what? No freaking way. I do not consent three times.
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Well, you know, Dave, there's a big problem from my gather. I'm not a big hunting guy. Of course, I'm not in The US, but the beer the deer have gotten one of these diseases, like like well, I guess I'm just gonna cough today. Sorry.
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That's alright.
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The deer have gotten this, like, scurvy
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disease. Have you heard about that? I think it's happening all over the country. They've got a few They got chronic wasting disease, and then they got some other That's it. Yeah. And Wallach says it's all a mineral deficiency. They they could put, you know, stations out there, you know, and they they and they're also banning baiting. So you can't feed the deer. You can't shoot the deer, and they want us to and you know how many deer I think Michigan has the highest or one of the highest, car, deer, accident ratios in the nation. And, and now they wanna make it a $150 on them. It's like yeah. We'll decide on.
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Everybody's scrambling for cash. That's what you see here. That's what a lot of this traffic stuff is. They're they're the local you know, the judge wants his pension and you're gonna help him fund it, damn it. You know? Oh, boy. Okay. So Yep. Anyway, well, that's interesting news. Yeah. Who else has got something on this election Tuesday? We've got some pretty big elections today. I'm gonna be very interested. Well, of course, the New York one looks foregone. There's some big ones in New Jersey with some of the democratic areas. I just heard Roger Stone a minute ago talking about it, that are very, very questionable. They're not gonna let people put up places to watch ballots, get counted, and all this kind of scrap. That's New Jersey.
And then we've got this little crown jewel one down there in Virginia that we talked about a bit. I hope, my our Virginia listeners, you've got that election right there in your lap this morning. I liked the black gal that was running against the I think she's a Jew gal. She's an ex CIA person. The one that stood there mute when she was asking her about her guy running for attorney general wanting to kill his opponent's children and them and watch him the children die in his mother's arms. That's a public office guy that's running for public office. I could see you saying that privately, but I don't know about saying that publicly.
And then the little black gal who was running against Schindberg or whatever her name is, and I I hope all of you saw that video where she's sitting there confronting her with that, and she just won't say a word. In the middle of an open, obvious, a televised debate, and she won't even say a freaking word. So you got that going down there today. That'll be pretty interesting. I'm not sure. That's the only one I really know about in Virginia. There's probably some other interesting races there also, but I sure hope that little black gal gets whatever office. I think she's governor. Well, I forget which office she's running for. She's very sharp.
So we'll see how that turns out. That's the big news of the day, I guess, politically. Trump is, fighting with Mondavi, the, guy in New York already. He hadn't even gotten elected yet. So, all that's going on. Anybody else know of anything? I just kinda got spaced yesterday on, everything else. So, if anybody's got anything I'm forgetting here this morning that's important, we'd like to hear about it. So what am I missing here this morning, audience? Am I missing an audience? Jeez.
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No. Participate in the elections. Thank you. I I for your good money.
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Boris, that's you're absolutely right if you don't want to. But, you know, whoever gets your local election post may have a direct effect on you. All politics is local. You're looking at at the other part. So anyway, that's just my opinion. Morning, Bory.
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Did you have anything else? Morning right here. The morning. Yeah? No. I was that was that was the only thing I have to say, Rauhar. Okay. God bless the people. They still participate in the life.
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Well, all politics is local. And if you have local officials that have a direct bearing on your life, you You maybe look look at that. So, I don't know that we can do much effects on on big time politics, but you can certainly do them local. You know? So, anyway, my thought Boris thought, he doesn't wanna vote at all, but somebody's gonna run the ship. And if this is your local stuff, you might wanna participate. So that's, e each and like everything else, once you go through this, that's an that's an individual, choice there, Julie, isn't it?
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I think they're all puppets for the globalists, and they run, and then they flip the swap on what they say. They never do what they're gonna say, and you might have a few little good things that they do here and there. But overall, until our republic is 100% restored, I'm gonna do what Mirka suggested and I'm not gonna vote. This is the first time ever I'm not voting. I really don't care if Winston Pierce wins. That woman in the blonde hair is a communist 100%. So we'll just see what the outcome is because I don't think my vote would make make a I don't think it'd make a a, make a, impact on it. Anyway, we still have the Dominion Voting machines and the Smartmatic software inside of them to flip the vote. They never took them away.
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Oh, well, I can understand your position totally and completely. It's a rotten system. And, where's the whole thing go back to? It all goes back to a political theater scenario that has been set up in front of us where it really doesn't make a damn bit of difference. Supposedly, of course, we found out a little different. Did you watch that? Did you watch that? I tried to. I tried too. I got in the first few minutes, and I I just didn't I didn't like the format they were using.
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It was incredible. And he had that whole thing charted out.
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Well, I was sitting there, Stu. First of all, he's got all now I see he's got all them damn tattoos on his arms. And I just didn't like I didn't like the way it was set up and that it was going, and I just dish dish out of it. Was that Larry trying to say something?
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Yeah. I I disagree with any student that says they should not, participate in voting, and here's why. In Florida, what DeSantis is trying to do is, when on the on the next ballot, he's going to put something on there for a constitutional amendment to, to remove property taxes on home only homesteaded properties. And, so business properties and Airbnbs and all those kind of properties would still be responsible for paying taxes.
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And so They're what they're what they're They're they're involved in commerce.
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Yeah. Exactly. That off the hook. Okay. Go ahead. I'm sorry. The the problem is the problem is the Republicans, on a on a large part, are opposing the the, governor. And what their strategy is is they're gonna try to confuse all the state voters by having all these different versions. And I've been following this one, individual who takes deep dives, and he said there's gonna be about what they're trying to do is they're gonna try to put eight different versions, and that's gonna split the vote because the strategy is you need 60% of the vote to put the amendment on the constitution to eliminate property taxes.
And by having all these different versions, that's gonna split the vote, and so it won't go through. And that's exactly what they do at the federal level. In order to get their candidate in, they often split the vote up with, you know, different candidates like libertarians and all these different all these different, you know, leaders that that wanna get in there. So, anyway
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That's what the Teddy Roosevelt and the Bull Moose party were all about, splitting that ticket and getting Wilson in.
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If I may.
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Dave?
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I remember Paul had, this guy on from Florida
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who Oh, yeah. From the Orlando area. Property taxes,
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and it's already in your constitution in Florida that property taxes are they don't they're they're not allowed to charge property taxes on homesteaders or anybody who owns property. You know, you can have a business on your property and not be charged property taxes for it. I forget what the, you know, the exact you know, where he pulled that out of the constitution, but he said it's in most of the constitution. But I don't No. People hear that on our assembly that have gone to task with the local, you know, the locals and the taxes, and they said that we pretty much have it in our,
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constitution as well. I haven't I tried to pursue it a little bit, but we haven't been successful yet. But we're working on it. Well, Dave, I remember right now. I did not hear that I did not hear that interview. I just heard about it from you folks. I remember right, the guys, one of the prerequisites from what he was accomplishing, and he had accomplished it, was he had to be a resident of the state of Florida. This is Matt. You know
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Yeah. I think that was part of the language, but I don't know if it actually says that in the constitution.
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It's not in the constitution. It's in the Florida statutes.
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Okay. Florida property And I think that's probably not a problem.
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That's a Florida constitution issue. I don't know. I just remember that that guy's success was bearing on the fact he was a resident. May I recognize that? Card most of all. Now who's the who's may I?
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This is Matt. This is Matt out of California. The guy is named Steve Embers. It this is named Steve Emerson. I've talked to him for hours, and he's taken a lot of people. He he he won it for a buddy that had a house stolen. He he won He he helped him win $37,000,000 back. Oh, yeah. And he's helped a lot of people take their properties off the tax rolls. But it is, yeah, it's because of the way they classify it. There's it's there's no business it is. But if you are doing business at your house and you, you know, you're working from home, you have a business office, you you have to pay taxes on that part of the of your property. Oh, okay.
You know? But but anyway so, yeah, his name's Steve Emerson. He's a wealth of information, and and he's helped a lot of people. And there's nothing special about Florida. It's the same everywhere. He was just, it's getting harder and harder because they're clamping down. A lot of stuff that used to like, with Ron Gibson, a lot of stuff that they used to allow when you knew what you were talking about, they're not allowing anymore. You know? And they've even put in the, you know, people wanting to go become recorders. And I know a guy that went to become a recorder here in California, and the manual that he they gave him to study, made it very clear, do not allow them to record any land patents or the accepting of the land patents.
And so so it's just gotten real harder and harder. But, anyways, I just wanted to add that by yield. Okay. Thanks, Matt. And was his, this Emerson guy?
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Was I was I correct that his whole thing hinge on you being a resident?
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Do you remember? Well, it it's it's it's it's it's you being your home. I'm not sure that he focused on the resident, but your home where you raise your family, that is not a tax not a taxable event, not a taxable privilege. It's all about taxable privilege. Well And there's no taxable privilege. We have a right to own property. And we you know, and we have to live somewhere. So it's all about it's not a taxable privilege when you're just raising your family.
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Uh-huh. Well, anyway, my what I took, somebody said that that you had to be a resident to participate in this program. And, of course, that defeats what we do. So, there may be a loophole in there. Good good for them if they don't suffer any kind of, other blowbacks. Of course, Florida, one of the few states that does not have a state income tax. So you're not getting caught on the other end by that.
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Thank you, Matt. Speaking of resident yeah. Yeah. One other thing. Speaking of resident, the term residential property is actually a commercial term and he hits him on that too. They use the term residential property, but that's actually a commercial term.
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Uh-huh. So Well, again, you're getting into these fine hair, you know, aspects of these things, and, boy, you can discuss them for a long time. Somebody else trying to get in there too on that? No? I understand the property tax is a big problem for people, but, again, you voted on it. You know, they fought those blonde issues in your local elections, and people go vote on them. And they go, well, we need some money for the schools, or we need some money for the fire department or we need some money for the police department, and they put it in a bond issue and stick it in referendums there in the fall usually when you're voting. I mean, so the people vote on it locally. It's not it's a real different type of tax, and I don't think, Larry, that most people perceive it that way. What what do you got to add, Larry?
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Yeah. So I agree with your premise that all all voting, is local. Is is is that how you say it? All voting is local? Well, just all politics is local. All politics is local. Right. Because if we can get this passed, you know, the if the state citizens can get this passed, and when I say state citizens, I'm including US citizens, then we would the those that have a homestead exemption will not have property taxes. It will be zero because DeSantis, he keeps coming out saying, you know, why should you have to rent your property from the government? Because that's basically what you're doing. If if they can come in there and take it, you know, if you don't pay your property taxes, that is a form of renting from the government.
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Yeah. And,
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and only 36%
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what's that? You know what that's called? You know what that's called, don't you?
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What's that?
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Feudalism.
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Oh, yeah. So, and here's the thing, you know, there there's this there's this cry that, oh, we're not gonna be able to fund all of our emergency services, and we're not gonna be able to fund the schools. Well, there only 36% of of the budget is made up of homestead, property taxes. So DeSantis has already proven through this CFO that he hired. His name is Blaze, b l a I s e, Ingoglia. I think that's how you, pronounce it. I think he came out of New York, but he came down here, and he's heading up the, Florida Doge. And this guy has already found tens of millions of wasteful, you know, budget expenses that that is being being paid for, you know, for things that just don't really matter for anything.
And he's got he's been going through all the different counties and finding all of this wasteful spending. And, together, you know, DeSantis and this Blaze CFO have already figured out how to fund that 36%, deficit that if they go ahead and and make the, property taxes exempt on homestead properties, they've already figured out how to make up for that. Even even in the counties where, you know, they don't have a, a lot of money coming in, they'll be able to, take care of those costs also. So they can get this done, but there's a lot of there's a lot of strategies to prevent it.
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Well, I'll tell you if if DeSantis is successful at this, I just chip my hat from trying. There's a bunch of other states that are gonna follow in his stead, I would think. It's a really unpopular thing, but, again, I just don't think people really understand it. It's just like, you know, our our our our example, our our our I was selling Mark, our example of, of, your house burning down and you didn't you had a loyal title and, the fire department comes up to the streets, says it can't come on your property and your house burns down. You're gonna pay those costs one way or the other, folks.
K? Yes, Boris.
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But with the lottery, they supposed to pay the school they supposed to pay the school with the with the lottery. No? I know. That's what they say. They they get that money to pay the the the schools. Uh-huh. That was the excuse that they need to put in every state.
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Right. Well, that's your, there's your your politicians lying again, Bory. I don't know what they do with that money. I know one of the winners I know one of the winners in Oklahoma was Jerry Epstein's trust or something. One they won a big, Oklahoma lottery, Jerry ups Jeffrey Epstein. So they can be rigged too. I don't know. I I like what we used to say about it in Florida. It's the idiot tax because you come halfway across the country and stand in line to pay it.
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It was supposed to support education and the DNR, the, preservation.
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Okay. Well, we it's either and, of course, we got another thing that's, playing into the fact here nobody's talked about, record inflation because of the expenditures through the Biden four years that's finally showing up. That sure as Gary, you know, is talking about the price of coffee courses, but tariffs, but a lot of it baked into the cake is the inflation everybody's experiencing now. I guess Trump's been able to bring down the price of gas per gallon, the visible stuff, and eggs, etcetera, milk. But, I don't think he's attacked the underlying amount yet. By the way, if you folks we didn't talk about it. I was negligent.
As you didn't hear, the Federal Reserve dropped the overnight rate a quarter of a percent last week. That's pretty anemic. But, anyway, they did do that last week. So things come down a bit. The pressure's off somewhat. So where else? Anybody got any other things to add on what we've discussed so far?
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When is it Steve Emerson
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Steve Emerson has been getting people out of paying Florida property tax for some time now. And if they're messing with it, I would absolutely read every single bill that's that's proposed because 500 pages can be how good it's gonna be, and one of those pages is gonna be really bad.
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I mean, so that's very true, probably. That's the way they do it. Anyway, I don't see property taxes the big bad. I don't see anywhere near as much as income tax as the baddie. Those are you're being taxed on services that you're getting there locally even though you're not getting them. You're you're very lucky. You didn't have to call on the fire department, Paul, that your house is not burned down overnight. So, anyway, that's just one of those things. People get all up and and hears about it, but it's a different kind of tax. So, in case you California.
There's Chris from California. Hey, Chris.
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How are you
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doing? I'm pretty good all in all. Well, I'm
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I'm really glad I studied, you know, economics and banking and finance and things like that because I I learned what a fraud, the whole system is. Oh, the whole thing's a fraud? First of all first first of all, they don't even need the money because all the all they're doing is getting back debt. It's, like, stupid. There's no positive value. Oh. If you want if you want if you want services.
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It's very positive for them, Chris. I'm sorry. I'm gonna interrupt. Very positive for them. They get all kinds of layers of compound interest. So
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I don't I don't know if I make that broadest statement. There should be no interest. There should be no interest at all. There should be, real money packed by gold or silver or something like that. So people have real positive value that they because then they have power. Then they have power to, like, vote with their money every day. And, but when you're on credit like this where everything's interest, all anybody's got is a line of credit that could be taken away at any time. Everybody's just living on a line of credit. Yep.
And and if you want services, like, when I was a kid, go visit my our family or or, you know, the farmers that that we or they were all farmers. Down in Illinois, and while I was down there, I would go to the one one room schoolhouse that the people in the community built with their own hands and their own money or whatever they built it with. They well, they cut down trees and they made their own lumber. Cut down trees, built made their own lumber, built the schoolhouse, hired a teacher to come in there and teach everybody, and all their kids went to the one room schoolhouse.
There was no need for any taxes for education. Everybody just took a little bit out of their own pocket, and there was no graft. So, you know, everything was very efficient. Efficiency is very important. And then as far as the fire department, it was a volunteer fire department, and they all put together to buy a truck. Maybe they bought a used truck from some other place that was, you know, upgrading. And they had the truck, they had their stuff, and, everybody was on call if they needed them. And they all got together, and they put the fires out. And it's something and if and if somebody lost their barn, well, they all arranged to saw some more wood and go over there and build them a new barn.
I mean, it's amazing. You know? And, it didn't cost a lot to live because they did it themselves. They they had some ingenuity, and, their money was their, was their their skills, their talent, and their ability to they made every they got everything from the land. They got their food from the land. They got their beef from the land. They got their they are each one had a little stand of trees somewhere that they could go and cut down trees if they wanted to build another building. And everything went along pretty well, you know, until 1933, when the bankers decided to cripple this country because they they couldn't stand it being so prosperous.
Also, the well, the one of the biggest downfalls in this country was the, you know, the the market, the stock market. And if you study who invented the stock market in America and why, it was to steal the money from the common man who wouldn't know anything about investments. So this people just don't know what's going on. If they knew what was going on and got together, it could be taken care of real quickly. Kick these guys out of office because we don't need them. Put the buildings to some better use. And, starting locally would be a good idea. Now I was gonna mention about the Ithaca dollar.
Has anybody heard about the Ithaca dollar? Yes. Okay. Well, that's a model. That's and that that's actually that's that's a model taken from, from Germany. You know, when they had no money and, Hitler wanted to rebuild the country, and they created their own money backed by the work effort of the people, which there was plenty of work effort. Everybody jumped in. They became the greatest economy in the world in six years. Ithaca, New York had the same kind of prosperity. The Ithaca dollar was a very successful enterprise. I don't know if they're still doing it or not. I don't know. Let's ask Paul.
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Hold on, Chris. Paul, how far away are you from Ithaca?
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Oh, I'm hours away, and I think they're still doing it.
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It's been going on this Ithaca Dollar Ithaca Dollar that Chris is referring to here. I mean, I was reading about it back in the nineties, and it had been going for some time at that point.
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Yep. No. It was actually tried here in California and just couldn't get get it in people's mind, couldn't get to get it together. Of course, you know, a lot of the people in California have no concept of our constitutions or a republic anyway. All all they do is Anyway, all all they do is, you know, spend all their time in it with entertainment and, you know, drinking beer or whatever, you know, they do. But, you know, it's hard it's hard. You know, I'm gonna learn I'm gonna have to learn Spanish because I I do do a lot of work. I do a lot of work for Spanish people who raise chickens and livestock and whatever.
And, the county comes in and tries to shut them down, and I I'm extremely successful in preventing that.
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Well, Chris, I'll give you a tip. If you need to learn Spanish, you're probably dealing with Mexican Spanish there predominantly. And, if the the best resource I found to learn the language is a, a course called synergy Spanish. Synergyspanish.com. The guy's an American, married a Mexican gal from the film industry, makeup artist, very attractive. And, for two years, he could not, learn to speak to her parents. And so he went back and reevaluated the entire way that the language is taught, And he did it with a lot of neuro linguistic programming.
And, you can go to that website and download the first four chapters and see how they do for you. But this was a oh, man, I've looked and looked and struggled with that. This is the best thing I found, and some of my friends said the same thing. And if you do that thirty minutes a day for a month, you'll be speaking rudimentary Spanish in after thirty days.
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Yeah. What was that called? Synergy what?
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Spanish.
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Is it synergy.com?
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No. Synergyspanish.com. Oh, Synergy Spanish. Got it. Okay. And you can download the first four chapters for free and try them, and let let you download the pronunciations and stuff too. It's a very good course, but it is Mexican Spanish. So for whatever that's worth, they're different dialects. So I just wanted to add that for you. I I think you'd be real pleased with that. It's really good. Thirty minutes a day.
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Roger, may I may I?
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Yes. Is that Sherry? Is that you?
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It is.
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Back to the federal reserve. You just dart in and out. We don't hear from you for months, and now you're back. Well, welcome.
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Well, I'm usually listening.
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Okay.
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About the Federal Reserve. I heard that they infused more than $40,000,000,000 in the last four days four days.
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Infused, you mean it put back into the circulation circulation?
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Or, loan the banks the banks, the banking system banking system. I'm not sure how you word it how you word it. The overnight rate, maybe that's why it dry dropped. Okay. Well, let's go over that. Well, Chris, I'm just gonna get detoured for a second here.
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The overnight rate is called the FOMC. That stands for the Federal Open Market Committee. They meet every Wednesday, every six weeks, and they're the ones that adjust what's called the overnight rates, generally the rate they mess with. Now that rate is the preferred rate to their best member bank synagogue buddies, Maybe a quarter of a percent because Jews aren't supposed to car charge other Jews interest. Right? Quarter of a percent or something. And the reason they do that is to shore up their balance sheet on how much debt versus assets they've got. And if they're low because of reserve requirements, you know, we're talking about Federal Reserve Banking.
And so the there's a reserve requirement that they must take. And let's say, for ease here, the explanation of of all the loans they've got outstanding, they've got to have 10% of that amount in cash. That's what the overnight rate affects my understanding, how much cash the banks have. Now because it's their synagogue buddies, they do it at a very low rate. But that's the one you most commonly hear they're messing with is the overnight rate. Now here's the interesting thing of where we have been in the banking community for, boy, hell, all the way back to Trump's first term.
And what they did with Biden was they lowered that reserve requirement from 10% to zero, which means the banks didn't have to have any cash on hand to crank out these promissory no loans. K? That's the reason you got a bunch of money pumped into the system over the Biden years. That's another way they did it. But that's what Sherry's referring to is this overnight rate. It and it all goes back to the balance sheet of banks and the reserve requirements, which they must uphill uphold evidently. So Project Sorry to interrupt, Sherry. Yeah. Well, hold on. Let's see. Did that get what you were talking I just wanted to explain it a little bit more. You're talking about very complex things here.
Okay? And that's the way they've been able to pull this off is complexity. Did that address what you were trying to say, Sherry?
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Yes. But, a follow-up to that, please. Okay. So have they changed the,
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the cash requirements that banks must have must have, or is it still sitting at zero? I believe they've raised it a bit. I'm just not sure. I don't keep up with all that. Marinario and those guys would be the ones to answer that, but that's the primary thing. And don't forget, that's just on currency. We've got a whole another deal on bonds. Okay? And that bond market on the other side of the equity market is what runs everything. K? So it's a very complex system, and it's not impossible to understand, but you're gonna have to work at it a little bit. Julie, what kind of insight have you got for us?
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I just wanted to tell you that it's not the FOMC. It's the OBFR. The OBFR is the overnight bank funding rate.
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And that's Yes. But the federal but the the committee that dictates that is called the Federal Open Markets Committee, FOMC. Yes. I heard somebody referred to it as yesterday.
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That's correct.
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Alright. Thank you. So anyway, Sherry, do you have anything else to add to that? I mean, yeah, the well, Trump's trying to take over and privatize the Federal Reserve. I don't know if you've heard that. He's doing a battle. I forget whether they allowed that gal to stay, and the Supreme Court allowed her to stay on the board or not. It was some decision on that recently. Anyway, Trump's trying to change everything over and get it under private control. I doubt the bankers will ever let that happen, but, we'll see. It's the cons well, you know, this is what Brent says is the battle from the beginning of time is the bankers versus us.
K? And, of course, the bankers like to use they like to use all that law that they know in and out, like the merchant law called the UCC. Yes, ma'am. Yes, ma'am.
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Roger?
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Yes.
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Oh, it was Lisa Cook, and I believe the supreme court is letting her stay at the federal reserve. They put a stay on her firing.
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Yeah. I think that was right. They put a stay on that lawsuit to run her off because she's been playing mortgage games too, Just like Leticia James and Adam Schiff and Yeah. No telling who else who else. Those are the ones we know of. Thanks, Julie. Chris, I'm gonna go back to you here. We got sidelined from what you were saying, and all those things are right. But, you know, you're gonna have to go live in Pennsylvania. You're gonna have to go live in Pennsylvania with the with the Amish. They still do stuff that way that way.
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Yeah. Barter barter would be the way to break the system
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if we if we start barring of things. Uh-huh. Well, here here's another thing. You could have an honest monetary system, and it could be totally fiat. K. And that's what that's what Lincoln did with the greenbacks. He had heard a story from somebody. I read a long article on this when I was in Argentina years ago, on a guy from his area, Illinois up there where you I guess you're from, Chris. And he had come up with this. He explained it to Lincoln, and Lincoln implemented it with the greenbacks. You could print all the fiat currency that you want. I'm gonna let me just explain this to the audience.
You can print out all the fiat currency you want. K? But to keep it with equilibrium, you have to spend it into circulation like Roosevelt did with all the public works programs. You spend it into circulation, and then you have to tax out what you spent in. In other words, the circulating medium that you spent into circulation has to be taxed out at that amount. And there can't be any other, deviation because the excess currency that floats in the system is what's been used for all the app speculation, all the bad speculation that goes on, all the gambling by all these gambling Jews that love to hang around Wall Street.
Right? And so as long as you tax out what you spend in and you're only using the currency as a medium of exchange, there's nothing bad with it at all. But in that latter part is where you get people that won't tax out what was spent in, and you get political mischievousness and chicanery going on, and it screws up the model. But if that model was followed exactly, you you could have a fine circulating fiat currency. It's just that it's only used as a medium of exchange. That's its only purpose.
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It's not used as a reserve. Yeah. One one of the other one of the other problems is hoarding. See. Go ahead. They have they have to do something about hoarding. Some people, you know, some people as they're frugal, you know, they they're old school, and they they wanna save up for stuff instead of getting a loan. They wanna save up for stuff. And so, that's something the government can't regulate. So they have to devalue it continually to stimulate people to spend it or lose it.
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And, the whole thing is just totally screwed up. Well, I like that model. I love that model that Paul told us about. It was over in Europe that they tried to spread, and they went Austria. Finally, they took it to Austria. It had been successful in a couple of cities, and they said, if if you do this, it'll destroy the bond market. So there you come with the debt market supporting these countries.
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Mhmm. Tellystix, was it?
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The what no. It was the thing in Austria where they had on the back of the bill that it would lose a quarter or half a percent or something if it wasn't circulated by this date. And what that was designed to do was increase what is Mike Maloney calling? The the circulation of money. I guess it skips my mind in a second. But Velocity of money. Velocity of money. Thank you very much. And, because if you had 10 people in a society get this, Paul, if you never seen this Maloney example, it's pretty interesting. If you had 10 people in a society and you had only $1, okay, and it went around and it went through everybody's hands in the course of a day, then you would have 10, the amount of people, times one, and your GDP would be 10 would be 10.
Right. But if you could get the circulation of that currency up more, then it it's a multiplier. Then it's 10 times two if it touched everybody's hands twice. Then you got a 20, a a double your GNP. 30 tripled it. Have you ever seen that video? It's kinda it's a joke video about the guy that pulls into town with a, for a $100 bill or something in Mexico somewhere. And it goes through all the people in the town. You know, he goes to the to the hotel, and he gives the guy the change. And he he puts him in a room that he runs off and he pays the cook because the cook, he owes money and he got he gives it to her and then she goes and visits somebody else and ends up the the guy that was checked into the room, the prostitute had the had the $20 at the end of the whole thing. I'm sure some of you have seen that. It's pretty funny. Mhmm. But it goes to illustrate the velocity of money and how important it is.
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We could do what drug dealers do.
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What's that?
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Mhmm. Drug dealers. We could do what drug dealers do. Do you know why they, why they I wouldn't they have and wear so much jewelry? I wouldn't know about any of that, Paul. Okay. Well, if a drug dealer gets arrested and he's got a buttload of cash, the cops can and do seize it.
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Correct. But And you know, he Yes.
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But if he's wearing $10,000 worth of jewelry, he can sell that and come up with bail money.
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I'll be darned. Well, you know, that's the way they used to do it in the old days in the eighteen hundreds with especially like the California Gold Rush. Those guys would go out there and hit a bunch of gold and you'd see them with that chain around their waist. Each link was a predetermined size and weight. So they had a universally accepted currency simply by undoing the link of a chain. And 24 is very, very viable and easy to, easily to manipulate. Oh, goodness gracious. Okay. What words of wisdom do you have for us today, Farris?
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Well, if you say goodness gracious, I say great balls of fire. I mean, that that's what ensues.
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I'm at Jersey. I'm at Jersey. One of these days, I'll tell you my very little story from the record business. Go ahead.
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Excuse me. Yes. Good. Wanted to chime in on your your good advice. It might even be great advice to the gentleman to go live among the Amish. I did that for quite a while while in, Lancaster County, Pennsylvania, which is the largest settlement of plain people in the world. And and he will be enriched by the Amishman. I identified this morning as Amishman when I came on to your airwaves airwaves. And I am an Amishman. Most respect, especially picture taken. You see all the fools taking pictures pictures of each other and posting them in various places? I mean, look at where we are. There's you know, I weep for the future.
You know, let me take a picture. Let's get a picture. Are you crazy crazy? Or I just, what what that that you Shegman talked about in his book, just how stupid are we? But the word for the day today is promissory. Never say promissory. Always say promissory. Why? Because it's spelled p r o m I s o o
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Oh, we're gonna send Ferris over in myrrh. He can team up with myrrh, and they can be the spelling and the pronunciation police. Somebody policed him out of here pretty quick. So thanks, Ferris, for whatever. Okay. Who else has got something? Chris, did we get finished with you? We took your subject and we ran off and just left you in the dust. Did you get to get completed?
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Well, the subject of, of money and economy and finance is a is a very convoluted subject. It's it's very complex, intentionally. And, getting back to the
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It's been made that that way so they can pull the wool over our eyes. Go ahead. Sorry to interrupt.
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No. As far as tax on houses, there shouldn't be any tax on houses. Your house should be yours. And if they if they they get the taxes, it should you you volunteer, you chip in or whatever. You You have a volunteer fire department, whatever you need. But, your your your home should always be secure. There should be no property tax on your home. Someone someone DeSantis. No. No. There could be tax on, on specula that's being speculated on, but I'm against that as well. I don't know if I don't know if this had the census will get it done or not, but I know, like, there's 13 states in our union that do not, do not collect property tax from senior citizens.
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Senior citizens. Yeah.
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From property tax in 13 States. But even that's not enough. There should be no property tax. This just shouldn't shouldn't happen. There should be true ownership at least on that asset.
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Okay. Well, that's a very good sound argument, Chris. Anybody got any comments on that? I I tend to agree with Chris, but some people I mean, we went into the again, we went into it voluntarily, of course, as the country grew. These, these miners and sappers, I believe that's what Jefferson referred to them as, in the background are always looking for a way to get compound interest on something. If they can figure out a way to slip a bond issue in there that they're going to underwrite, they're going to get all the fees, and then they get all the interest and compound interest is piled on it. Well, then they sold that to you and the people started buying it because it was easier for them to think of paying that through that mechanism, a fire department, than from them to volunteer in that same follow fire department.
So, anyway, it'd be a good change, but, you know, the whole thing goes back to we're talking about is an honest money supply. Was that sketch?
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Yeah. You you were mentioning the, currency, in Austria. It's called the Worgill. I don't know how to spell it. Stay it in German. W 0 r g g l l, and it's basically Dimeridge currency.
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I don't know how to say Dimeridge. I don't know. I've never heard that word before. Dimeridge. What what's that what's that word, Chris? Dimeridge. I've never heard it before.
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It's in it's in the in the chat if anybody wants it. I yield.
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Yeah. Just to finish up on what I was talking about, it comes down to, the Bible says neither a lender nor borrower be. I don't now there are people that they they loan money. The friends will loan money without interest. There are without interest, and that's the Bible way. No interest. Interest just breeds a lot of content and a lot of problems, and it's for Right. It's a form of theft. And so so, yeah, I I've never had a credit card. I don't even have a bank account. Haven't had one in a long, long time, probably twenty years.
And, you know, I found other ways to do just fine. And the Lord has blessed me and prospered me beyond belief. And, so, you know, if you obey the scripture and don't get involved in it, cut up your credit cards, forget it. A debit card, I suppose, would be okay because the money is already there. I mean, it's not even money. There is no money. It's all play money. It's all monopoly. It's all credit. It's all credit. It's all credit. Yeah. Exactly. It's all credit. It's all good. And I don't want any credit. I don't want their credit. I don't want credit for anybody. I want the fruit of my labor. That's what I want. Mhmm. Mhmm.
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Well, and Chris will work and save up for something he wants to purchase as opposed to somebody that's been influenced and and and and Pavlovian conditioned by instant gratification and going, well, here. You want that car? We'll get get $30? No. Would you like to finance it? Well, it's the only way I can get it. Yeah. So now what you're boiling this down to, interestingly enough, it's an interesting topic, Chris, is the time value of a less you know, quote, unquote money. So if I loan you at no interest, are we talking about real money, or are we talking about paper money, credit?
So if I loan you that under the credit system for a year, when they say, well, we had 4% inflation last year. Well, the over that year, my paper money that I lent you lost 4% of its purchasing power. Shouldn't you make up for that at least to me? But the loss of the purchasing power that I lost by just loaning it to you? I shouldn't get replaced for that. No.
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I I could I could buy a used car. I could even do some work for somebody and get a car. I can get a car donated. You know? What whatever. You know? I accept donations. Yeah. I'm not I'm not gonna I don't I don't I don't like to play that game at all. The further away I can get from it, the better. And I don't Well, I mean, it
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I I think the time value of money is a legitimate thing to discuss and figure into the equation. That's why I'm throwing it in there. But so you would only because it's that's only because it's a fraudulent system. We had an Well, I I don't disagree with that. I don't disagree with that. But that doesn't
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And the price of the price of gold is completely manipulated. People are gonna be in shock one day. Oh, yeah. There's so much gold there's so much gold in the world that the people who control the gold, they can buy it on they can buy, they can sell, they can do whatever they want. They're they're immune from, you know, any of the downsides. And, because they're they're very secure. But to worship gold, you know, is is is insane. No. I At one time, I had a lot of gold, and I finally realized, well, this is stupid. You know? I can't eat it. Oh, I can't even spend it without converting it, and so I don't deal with gold at all anymore.
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You're right. Yes? Yes. I do I do have I Paul. Hold on. Let's hear what Paul's got here. Let me let me let me jump in here with one quick point. Yes. Your your idea, your question, Roger, is valid. If somebody loans somebody money and it loses value, then the person that borrowed the money should at least return in kind the equal purchasing power that they borrowed. However Yeah. That only works for fiat currencies. And in a gold backed currency,
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the currency itself would always be worth Well more, wouldn't it? It always retains you you're you're talking about purchasing power. So let me give the famous example here. We could go back two thousand years to Rome. I could take an ounce of gold and buy a nice toga, some nice sandals, a nice belt, and go out and have a nice dinner. Yep. I can go up to New York City to celebrate Mondavi's victory or something here tonight and take an ounce of gold and buy a very nice suit, a nice belt, some nice shoes, and go out to a nice restaurant and have a nice dinner. It's not the amount or the numbers. It's the purchasing power.
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Right. Which we're in charge based on gold. It never changes.
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So when you see the price of gold going up, the price of gold is not going up. It's retaining its purchasing power. The the value of the currency that it's valued in is going down. That's what that price reflects. Right.
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So there wouldn't be any reason for for borrowed money to lose value over the repayment terms. Not in a real system. Be an issue.
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No. Yeah. Now what, Chris, you wanna say something? Well, that's that's
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but it always has to be voluntary. As long as it's voluntary, there's no problem. I mean, it's a situation like the price the price of gold today does not reflect the value of that gold. It reflects the value of greed and hoarding. You know, people are scared, and so they they're shooting the price up because I everything everything I purchased is pretty much the same price it's been for the last twenty years. I have no problem. I have no problem finding places to buy nails or screws or whatever I need outside of the common places. I buy things in bulk. I trade commodities.
Mhmm. And I think commodities are the best thing there is because the the the they have real value. And I can buy the same commodities that I've always been able to buy without buying it with inflated gold prices.
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You know, the price of gold is Chris, these are not these are not inflated gold prices. The price of gold on the spot price is very, very understated a lot. It's not overpriced at 4,000 an ounce, buddy. Sorry.
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I think I think it's I think it's I think it's a it's a complete sham. Complete sham.
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Okay. Well, you think that way, and you can live that way too, Chris. But everybody's not the one that will not make all those sacrifices that you're willing to to live in those idealistic ways. You're making it a reality. Good for you. Most people don't have the ability to do that, I'm afraid.
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Which is why we have an organic farm when we grow our own food, and we'll be able to share that food with other people as well. Well,
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hats off to you, buddy. That food
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is is multiples of more value than the gold.
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Well, at the at the at that point of of, point you're looking at, I I guess so. You know, you're not gonna eat gold, but, there you can't take a tomato and stick it in your pocket
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you can take dried fruit and dried nuts and other things like that. There's you can do it a multitude of ways. Okay. You can make tinctures. No. All kinds of things. You're not carry you're not carrying dried fruit and dried nuts into another country, buddy. That's a fallacy. They ain't gonna let you do that.
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And what in Houston when you get time.
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What have wealthy people always carried into another country? Well, gold mostly. How's how has wealth been transported historically?
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Gold and diamonds mostly.
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Well, precious stones more than gold. Gold just, you know, weighs too much. You know? But precious stones That's a whole
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well, you wanna talk about scams. Let's go and talk about the diamond market.
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Sam and Houston when you got time.
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Okay. Go ahead. Whoever who's trying to who's trying to break in there? Because I'm gonna I'm gonna take a break here, Chris. Who's trying to get in there, Sam?
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It's Sam in Houston. And, Chris, if you if you wanna believe that you didn't make a mistake by getting ready to go, that's fine. Rod, good morning to everybody. I'd I'd like to ask Julie a question real quick.
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Julie Julie
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Who's calling my name?
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Sam in Houston. Hey, Julie. I got a question real quick for Roger. Who owns the Federal Reserve?
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The government? Oh, the
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government? A a group of,
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private banks? No. The international bankers do. All of the member banks all the member banks, there's 12 Federal Reserve banks in The United States. They own the Federal Reserve, but it's really controlled by the Bank of International settled in. That's in Switzerland. And Bank of America owners. Excuse me, Julie.
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There's 10 owners. They were published in the New York Times the day after the legislation was signed by Wilson. That's the only time to my knowledge they've been put out in public. They're the obvious usual culprits, Rockefellers, Rothschilds, Ceif, Spielberg. Oh, you know, there's about 10 of them. And they're the ones that own probably not only the Federal Reserve. I'll bet you this that same combination in most of the central banks in the world they own, Julie. I'm sorry to interrupt. Go ahead.
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Well, anyway, Trump Trump Trump mentioned, selling the Federal Reserve to a private corporation.
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Oh, yeah. So
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I think it already belongs to private corporation. It's already a private corporation. Yeah.
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Yeah. Trump is setting up his own shadow. He already has it set up. He's they're shutting they're setting up shadow central banks right now. Trump has one. So when he leaves office, he'll be controlling, the money supply through, who he, authorizes to be issuers of stablecoins. So he'll indirectly be controlling the Federal Reserve notes and the Treasury bills, bonds and notes, which will back the new stablecoins, which is our new digital financial concentration camp that's being built behind our backs, which in my opinion is already completed.
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Julie is very optimistic if you can't tell.
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Yeah. Thank you. Yeah. Sorry. Sorry, Rod. Thank you, Drew. It's not about being it's not about being pessimistic or optimistic. It's about being realistic with what what is rolling out and folding right before our very eyes. So, you know, all of this stuff is gonna is already being tokenized on the blockchain. This stuff was set up. This stuff is rolling out. Yep. I mean, I so I can say I've studied it, read it, and, I can't unsee what I've seen. So I yield.
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Okay. Same. Do you have any other questions for our sage, Julie, over there?
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Nope. I really do. Remember is all the gold is gonna be confiscated.
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They're never gonna reconfiscate gold, Chris. There's not enough manpower to go house to house. They did it in '33 because it was all in the banks. It was the money supply, and they did it then because it was all mostly in one place. There's no way they've got the manpower to do that now.
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Sorry. Roger I'm not talking about that, Bill. The point the point is, most people do not hold gold physically.
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That's true. That's very true.
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That gold will be confiscated.
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The the ones they hold physically will be confiscated? No. The ones who are not holding their gold physically, it will be confiscated. Oh oh oh, through any paper gold. Yeah. Oh, any of that stuff. Just paper gold. You're pissing in the wind to do that. Who was trying to say something?
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Roger, I have two more ounces of optimism for you. I I just heard I just heard that our dear president, with all the needs of our country, is giving Argentina $20,000,000,000.
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Yes. This is not new. It's been happening about a week or so, and they're probably trying to soy up, shore up Malu down there who's having some problems, who's a banker's guy. And you know probably one of the main reasons for all that, Robin? You don't, do you? Because Argentina had had agreed to join BRICS. And when Malue got inter elected, the very first thing he did was pull Argentina out of the BRICS. Very first thing. This is more than likely to try and make up for the deficiencies and the problems that have been caused by that and Malu attempting to go to the dollar.
They're attempting to move Argentina onto the dollar as their currency and, follow what they call the Ecuadorian model. And that's the reason I'm sure for all that, but I don't know all the specifics. I don't keep up with it too much, but he was, people were throwing rocks at him at a campaign thing, recently. And he used to have the full support of the people down there, but he's, also, I'm sure you wouldn't be surprised to know that it appears he's a closet Jew and that his family in the past was Jewish. So that may be a little tip too.
Okay? Roger. Yeah. We're getting a bunch of beef for that. And supposedly, Trump's reason, real or or not, was that the price of beef had gotten so high that this would help bring the price of beef down. I don't know about the legitimacy of that, but that was part of that deal too. Yes. Larry.
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Yeah. Trump is calling the Argentina situation an investment. And then to answer Chris, there's no way they're gonna take, everyone's gold and silver again like they did back during 1933 because there's too many guns and too many people are aware of what happened and what is going on.
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And we there's bills in the hundreds of money problem with this. A few days. Maybe about look. For the whole ICE thing, they've got what? 5 or 10,000 agents for the whole country? There's a whole lot more than 20,000,000 people on metals. I can promise you that to some degree. Okay. Go ahead. Who else is next?
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The This is Joe. I'm just gonna
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Joe. Hold it. Hold it. We're gonna deal with Joe, our Joe. Joe? Just a brief comment
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is they didn't go house to house and confiscate that gold. No. People surrendered it Yes. Thinking that they were going to get a good deal. You know, gullible, stupid people.
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And and, you know, you look at all the coinage.
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You can buy all kinds of gold coinage that people didn't turn in.
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People that held on to it were very smart. They did risk doing a jail term, probably not much. I think that that whole time, Joe, there was only one guy that was prosecuted for that all those years.
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That's my point.
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Yeah. Yeah. Roger. But it was easy for them. See, the banks held it, and I I don't know if this was part of the reason that all happened or not. And there was a big arbitrage play on at that time. Did you know that, Chris? There was a big arbitrage play between the price of gold in The US and Europe. And it's rumored that they were stealing the gold out of the banks and moving it over to Europe and taking advantage of the arbitrage. Okay? And then when they got caught, they pulled this in, and and then you got the gold clause that was in all contracts before that time where if you couldn't settle in in currency, you'd settled in gold. Well, they had to get rid of all the gold contracts, especially in the bonds.
So there's a lot going on there, and I don't know how we'll ever know exactly how it worked. Roger. But all the gold was in the banks. It wasn't generally in the people's hands. And if you had gold in a safe deposit box, when you went back to check it, your gold was gone. Your $20 guidance was gone, and a $20 Federal Reserve note was put in its place. And then shortly after that, a year or so, they raised the price of gold to 78% and gave themselves a raise. Now who was trying to say Roger? Samuel, who was that?
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Yeah. It was Samuel. That also came with a $10,000 fine and ten years in prison or both. Right. So it came with a whooping stick. It wasn't just like that, turn your stuff in.
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How about the new anti Semite law against they're trying to propose and pass against social media? The fine is $5,000,000 if you utter something anti Semitic on social media. That hadn't passed yet. K. That's proposed by, our
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pals. Yeah. I looked at your thing on Argentina, Roger, and I must say that, that is no different. I mean, he's probably a fine man. I don't know that much about Alex Newman, but he is no different than in the fifties and the sixties. And instead of Argentina, you say Korea or you say Vietnam. But we're talking about
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mention He never mentioned Argentina, Samuel. He talked about Brazil and Colombia. No. And and I mean, Venezuela.
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I misspoke Venezuela. Okay. Just just turn turn those. It's the same bullshit that the communist are gonna mess with us in some other country, and we need to go and practice our military movements there. And we get nothing for but, but more debt and and and pro and he he mentioned the problems are coming from this country. How about instead of communism in another country, we worry about that. How about we come back here and get rid of the 10 planks of the communist manifesto? How about we do that? I think the first problem of land, control of currency, control of education, all communists. I
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think the first problem here is the demand that the people in The United States create that they're filling.
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Well, the there are zero on the drug market compared to Ecuador and Colombia and Mexico. They are not even a blimp on the radar.
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Venezuela? Venezuela. We don't we don't do drugs here. We transport them out here, Samuel. So you're in No. I'm saying
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no. I'm saying coming into this country. The there it's it's not coming from Venezuela.
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Well, some of it is. Consequential.
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Even Newman said that. Alright.
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Okay. Well, some people think it's a good idea and evidently Samuel and others don't. I I don't know. You did make your own decision on it. Oh? But sure, the best thing we can do it again. Break.
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The best thing we can do is mess up the country. This you know? And and then what have all those problems end up going? They they come here in immigrants and such like that. You know, it's it and we don't need any more black marks on Latin America. Pretty soon, it's gonna be so anti gringo, you won't be able to live in Ecuador.
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Oh, I I've I've never gotten that backlash in all these years down here but once, and that was in Argentina. Actually, most people admire ringos, and they wanna know because they wanna know why you're here. And so they they many of them start
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saying that if we keep this kind of crap up in in South in South America,
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it's gonna get that way there. Well, Samuel's got very strong opinions about it, obviously. Founded or unfounded, he's got those opinions. You've got yours, and I've got mine. Okay? So, watch it. We'll see how it goes. Pardon me? All you have to do is look at history. Look at what people I don't know that we ever had the communist South of us planning to take over the whole damn hemisphere, Samuel. Where in history did that happen before? They've been saying that, like I said, like, forever. There's always a boogeyman. There's always a story. Well, okay. Don't go look at that. I'm hoping to get rid of the 10 plaques with the communist matter. About Lula. Don't go study Lula and how the Supreme Court justice let him out of jail from corruption to run so they can keep, Bondicero out. Don't look at any of that.
Okay? Don't look at the outward communist takeover and running of Venezuela from Chavez to Maduro. Don't look at any of that.
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Why don't we come home, Roger, and get rid of the 10 planks of the communist manifesto in our country and leave other people alone. But And and then talk about communism after that. Well, I think we can accomplish
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the threatening them then easier than we can what the, overturning the 10 planks of the communist manifesto. I'm not disagreeing on that.
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Yes, Boris. Yeah. I don't I don't think it's gonna be that easy because Iran sends some new weapons to Venezuela and something else. They talk I I agree with somewhere. They talk about communism in other countries. We live in a communist country. We are the biggest communist country in the whole world. They just No. I don't. I I That's not true. That's not true, Boris. China is. Come on, Roger. Here. No. Come on, Roger. China the people in China, they eat Don't float bullshit on here. You're floating bullshit. No. No. No, Roger. Yes. You told me that we don't live in a communist country?
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Okay. I'm saying China is a much bigger, communist country than we are, pal. K?
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They got a better country. They're not The infrastructure
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is better. Education is better. Get back down to reality, Boris. K?
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Right. They started in the little countries. They get our country first. Now they go for the big country. All these people, that's what they do. It's stealing from other people. That's what they do. Go to other countries and steal their stuff, and then they say the the people in that country, they are terrorists. When they went to that country and destroyed the people. They did the same thing in my country.
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Anybody else got something to add? Yes. Productive. Productive. Sketch, is that you?
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Yes. It is. And, you know, I agree there is competition between, you know, China and us, and that's what's playing out. And, just a quick quick thing. I watched a Dan Rather sixty minutes, so that was old. That was a long time ago. And it was about a, the DEA, the state department, colluding with the the the National Guard of Venezuela, importation of cocaine to our country. And they didn't bother the cocaine at all getting into our country and it made into the trap trafficking. It made it into the country. So, you know, one difference between China and Us is that they don't bomb countries to get what they want, to protect their image. They do dirty deals. I agree. They'll do they'll get in there and they'll they're corrupt.
But there's a big difference between bombing countries and then having all the refugees come to our country and having to support them. You know, there's a big difference. I just wanted to point that out. And, you know, I understand it's complicated, but you you you I think you would agree that you need to clean up your own backyard before you go talk to your neighbors about their derby backyard.
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And if you don't agree with that, well, we agree to disagree. I yield. Well, the unfortunate thing is underpinning all this is the new world orders control the CIA, and this is a way they get black budget money and also corrupt the country and weaken it so that they could, in their agenda, take it down. Okay? I understand that. It's our own people that are doing a lot of it.
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Roger? May I?
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We're gonna hear a female here. Yes. Is that Murr?
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No. Nope. This is Muse. I just I wanna Sorry. Yes. I wanna I wanna chime in a little bit here. A lot of people are stuck in the past, it seems. Things are changing. They are attempting to clean up our backyard. They're attempting to go through all the books. Hence, you know, cutting off and ending all these social welfare programs and and and, you know, changing the rules on it so that it, you know, you have to actually be a US citizen to to get onto any of these programs versus just being a piece of paper or or using somebody that is deceased or, you know, bringing people in so you can buy votes and and and support them. We are attempting to do that. Things are being made.
And leaders around the world are coming together and working with president Trump to try and weed out the letter agencies in their backyard too. Yes. They're from here, but they're everywhere like cockroaches. And and things are being cleaned up.
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The If you need to burst the pipes before. People don't wanna hear that, Muse. I'm sorry. I keep trying to say it, but peep the people don't wanna hear that.
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I I get that. I'm I'm I'm listening to all the doomsayers and and the I've seen what I've seen, and I can't well, I've seen what I've seen. I can't under under see that either. But I'm I'm choosing to to look to see how this can be resolved or other places, And, you get what you focus on. So if you're just gonna focus on the negative, you're just gonna get more negative. I say if you're gonna promote go to Badlands, watch their History Channel. They're very, very informed on what's going on in these other countries and behind the scenes.
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It's a mess. Thank you, Muse. Bruce?
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Yes, sir. God bless America. God has blessed America.
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In many ways. Live it.
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Live it.
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Well, hell, bitch. We found it. We found it. This group right here is found it.
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That's right. Get your bitching. You're here. You're in America. Act like it.
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You ought to be pretty grateful too, honestly, with all its problems. Who else has got something here in the stretch? Well, there's a couple of folks. Yes, sir. Who's the male there?
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Samuel. I know. Yeah. All we have to do is look at, you know, the they're wanting regime overthrow. Look what that did to Ukraine. We're paying a gridiciary.
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Whole infrastructure,
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you know. And we do it over and over and over again Well and the world hates them for it. That's why I got it. If we did If we did their infrastructure,
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they got gold, oil, and all kinds of other resources to back that up as collateral, Samuel. Syria does not. We've been stealing their oil over there for ten years now.
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No. But, Roger, it's also morally incorrect, and it's like, when is somebody gonna declare war again in this country like Congress? No. We'll we'll find out. We got such systemic problems here. We need to be coming home and fix some things here. We can't afford all of this I think military movement Come on Venezuela. We just can't afford it, and we're not equipped to do anything proper.
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Okay. Well, they got a bunch of resources they wanna serve, seized to help, defer those costs a little bit, Samuel. I get your point. You're real against it. We'll see because I think they're going in. They may be going in today or tomorrow from some Douglas, McGregor that I saw interviewed by Tucker last night. So we'll see.
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K? Yeah. I think there's something like 7,000,000 refugees out of that have left Ukraine as an example of our meddling, and the Russians are losing blasting Scott Ritter said is something like a 100 to a 150 men a day, and they're killing Ukrainians 36 to one. Now that we started, that is on us, and we're gonna lose on no. That's on the new world order. They're the ones who started and provoked that whole thing again. We are the new world order.
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Well, I'm not. I've separated myself from it, Samuel.
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Alright. Okay. Hey. I I get it.
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Alright. I do too, Samuel. It's difficult to discuss these things with you. Who else is coming in there? I'm a newcomer up here in Oklahoma. I'm sorry. I'm sorry you're being exposed to all this.
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So, Robbie told me I'll get on, check you all out. Roger, I got your book. Oh gosh. It was probably eight years ago. I loaned it to my cousin who's in a loaned it to my cousin who was an attorney at the time. He read it, maybe two or three chapters. I really don't know. But he rejected it out of hand. And then he went off and died on me, And I can't get the book back. Robbie said I could get a PDF, so I'll I'll try to find that. It's on the matrixdocs.com.
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Can I ask you what your name is? Yeah. This is RJ Barnett. Hi, RJ. Nice to meet you. Welcome. Hi. Sorry. If we don't have people like you coming forward, we get off in these discussions like you've been exposed to here today. And I don't think that's our best face, So I try not to do that, but thanks for stepping forward.
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Well, I'm glad I could, and I got a quick question. I I'm not sure if if most of the folks here are nationals, state national, or whatever.
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Is that ship No. No. They're no. No. RJ, purge that term from your lexicon. There's no such thing as a state national. You're either a national I'm not a or a state citizen or an American national or just a national, but you're never a state national. And the reason for that is you'll never find it in a court case or regulation or a statute, so you can't refer back to it. Go ahead.
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Yeah. Very good point. I'm not up to speed on it as as I was a little bit before. So on my passport, it says I'm an American
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national, I believe. Or maybe it's a US national. It says all passports are only issued to US citizens slash nationals. They'll you will never catch them hardly identifying you outwardly as that political status. They've gone to great lengths to hide it.
[01:41:26] Unknown:
Okay. Alright. That's helpful. I need to look into it more and and really fully be able to handle it. But and the re the reason I wanted to ask this question, a friend of mine who's doing yeoman's work on a manual right now, we've got a sheriff in one of our counties who's totally, on board with us. Okay? Really? He is brilliant brilliant guy. He's on board with us, and he set up a deal, an arrangement, and he told the county commission I'm doing this. He didn't ask their permission. Yeah. And he's we've already we've already set up an association of technical deputies who are given the authority by the sheriff of the county to exercise the the grievances and the things that are in the first amendment that allow the citizens to deal with rogue agencies, you know, public schools that are that are messing with our kids.
All these things are we've got the model set up to do it. And and so we're working on a manual to and we have to perfect the model because it's not it's not in operation yet. Okay? So it can't be perfected, I guess, till it's actually in operation. But I'm not sure more on that later.
[01:42:47] Unknown:
Okay. Let me ask you a question. Where in the country are you, RJ?
[01:42:53] Unknown:
Well, I'm in I'm in Tulsa County.
[01:42:57] Unknown:
Is that Oklahoma? Yeah. Well, you're good company. We've got a number of very, stalwart Oklahomians here with you. Joe, a minute ago that said something was one of them From the western part out there, Mark, our paralegal for over twenty years, is is having to take care of his elderly parents. He's only with us occasionally now. He was with us Saturday for a bit. He's not here today. He's in Shawnee, I think, outside Oklahoma City. So and there's several others. So you got a pretty good representation in the state there.
[01:43:33] Unknown:
Well, praise the Lord. I'll try to get in touch with him with your help.
[01:43:38] Unknown:
Yeah. We can do that. So what kind of questions do you have? What can I shore up? Can I shore up some of your foundations a little bit? Yeah. Here's the Lord. Read the book before you gave it to your, family member that died?
[01:43:54] Unknown:
Yeah. I I read most of all of it. Yes. It's been a while since I, you know Yes. One of the big questions is this. The gentleman's a close friend of mine who is working on that manual with the sheriff's he's the one who persuaded the sheriff to undertake this, to say it's really ideally, he his motivation was restoring the militia. That's what got him started
[01:44:17] Unknown:
Excellent.
[01:44:18] Unknown:
Probably fifteen, yeah, fifteen, twenty years ago in Florida, he had a case against a case against the IRS, so they had a case against him. And that's what got him going with the whole thing. Yeah. Yeah. They get a lot of people into the arena, those boys.
[01:44:32] Unknown:
That's why I call them the individuals representing Satan. It's pretty accurate, isn't it?
[01:44:39] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. So my friend David tells me that if I if I, perform an exit, you all get authenticated as a as a an American national maybe or you know, I forget what his term would be and how what his understanding is.
[01:44:57] Unknown:
Well, it's important to label that you use because if you're gonna interact with them, you gotta be on the same page. You can't be talking state and national, and they don't have a reference to that anywhere. So the using now that we've discovered the skullduggery, they've used by changing definitions and everything here. Using their exact words, if you think about it, are the key to the matrix because they've gotta recognize that definition because they're the ones that came up with it. So this is our power is understanding their exact words and using them succinctly and correctly.
[01:45:39] Unknown:
Oh, absolutely. So my friend David's concern, if you go into court and you separated yourself under under one of those terms, that you don't have access to the court. And what are you gonna do if Well, it's it's
[01:45:54] Unknown:
the reverse. RJ, the reverse is probably better. It's because you've severed their jurisdiction. Their jurisdiction is only over these federal serfs, then you're not one of those anymore. Then they don't have jurisdiction over you, do they? Because see, what we try to do is keep everybody out of court, period, if possible.
[01:46:15] Unknown:
Right. Now suppose the state trooper, pulls you over on the highway and and abuses you, engages in in a police brutality, then what's your recourse if you don't have access to the courts?
[01:46:31] Unknown:
Well, I don't know that you'll find any many of them doing that. You do have access to the courts that way because your access would be to an offending party you acted outside of his delegated responsibilities. When they hired him at the state police, they didn't tell him he could do all that stuff to people. K? So if he does that sort of thing to people, then he loses his, his immunity, doesn't he? He becomes personally liable. Now I'm not telling you that's an easy road to to go uphill, but that's your remedy. And and you might, like, raise your eyebrows, but you could go over. And we've got a very good, well, yeah, I guess he's a hell of a lot more than a paralegal, but he's a damn good one. His name is Joe Lustica. He's in New Jersey, and he almost got his city taken back from the state recently.
So it is possible.
[01:47:28] Unknown:
Well, I'll be, I'd like to be a student and, learn what I can here. I appreciate, getting to speak a few things.
[01:47:35] Unknown:
Yeah. Well, we're constantly learning here because of the wide range of participants and skilled people like Joe Lustica, who's just a brilliant god never had any legal training or anything, and he's an absolute Tasmanian devil to him. They won't even let you access his files because they've got them all shut down. I mean, he's good. Okay? He pops on here with us occasionally, but he's got his own following around the country, do deservedly so. And, he literally just about took back the city from the state of New Jersey. He put them all on notice all the way up to the governor, and all of a sudden, they want to drop charges and and go away.
K? Now he's never picked up the mantle and sued all these people yet. He still could in their personal capacity, but he's got a a wife and two young children at home. Have you ever heard the saying that mama ain't happy, nobody's happy? Have you ever heard that?
[01:48:38] Unknown:
Well, I've I've lived it. Yeah.
[01:48:42] Unknown:
So that's where that's where that is.
[01:48:46] Unknown:
Okay. It's good to know about Joe, and I'll I'd like to check out his you know, what he's doing as well. Well, I'll tell you how to do that. You can go over to rumble.comfront/joelustica,
[01:48:58] Unknown:
j0elustica. And he's got a bunch of videos over there you can study, and he'll explain a lot of things to you. He's the one that found we we go through this process. You can, go to the Department of Transportation and go on their website and register your vehicle as a private vehicle, and they'll issue you a DOT number. And we've got a number of students that take that number and go get a custom tag made with it and use that as the license tag on their car.
[01:49:30] Unknown:
Uh-huh. Wow. What how do you spell Joe's last name?
[01:49:34] Unknown:
L u s t I c a, exactly like it sounds.
[01:49:40] Unknown:
Wow. You couldn't get the word justice out of that name. Almost. Yeah. You could fool around with that.
[01:49:46] Unknown:
So what what other things should we address with you, RJ, though? You're new. We like new meat around here. And, we want to satisfy your curiosities or your complexities or any apprehensions that you might have about moving forward. We will do our best, bend over backwards, to get those satisfied.
[01:50:08] Unknown:
Well, if if I could do anything to assist the group, I think probably one of the most amazing things, I was praying last night for help regarding, a traffic citation. And, yes, one, to clear my motivations with the Lord. I don't wanna do it for the wrong reason, but I I was I was going on I 40 through Arkansas and got a ticket at 3AM in the morning for, exceeding the prescribed speed limit by a lot. I was in a hurry. So, I was on the phone yesterday with the prosecuting attorney. He said, well, you have to come over here because, you can't just pay your fine.
These judges, when you're that far over the speed limit, they want you here in court in person. And one of them, well, he has a tendency to put people in jail is what he said. If Ah, Roy Bean. Out over the speed limit. Judge Roy Bean? Hanging judge. Yeah. So I'm praying, and and I sincerely presented that to the Lord. Well, today, it starts to all the answers have started coming to me even you know, I was talking to Artie, and I I think Artie might be on the program sometimes.
[01:51:25] Unknown:
Okay.
[01:51:26] Unknown:
Up in Massachusetts. But so I got on today just because I heard about heard about the matrix, you know. And and so we anyway, I got some information through Marty, and that I believe that was the Lord providing. You know, he's got a Telegram channel that's pretty good, and and I'd like to share mine with anybody that that wanted to take a note. I'm at r j barnett, and that's capital r, capital j, capital b, and then, you know, Barnett is the last name, t t. And perhaps we can get there.
[01:52:04] Unknown:
One of our gals has got a Telegram channel, Mirka, and hers is national status freedom, three separate words. And if you wanna tap into that, send her a request, and she'll ask you a question or two. And I'm sure have no problem letting you into the group. She got over 500 people over there. We've got another resource. There's Merka right there. That's Merka, m e r j, Merka. And, we've also got a website called nationalstatus.com or info. Either one of them work. That's, Dave and Kaye, husband and wife team. Kaye is the net person, and she's put up a very, very viable website over there.
We've gotten a number of different things as resources on the website. One of our good listeners, another, Internet guy, put together a book called the National Status Handbook, 71 pages. It goes over the whole thing and and how it's set up and structured. We've got a couple of other pamphlets over there that people made up, Gary and Gina. And you can do it threefold and hand them out. So there's a bunch of resources around here, RJ.
[01:53:20] Unknown:
Alright. Awesome. Thank you. I think I was gonna submit you one other thing. Oh, I know what it was. So, with the two folks that that pointed me to this program, we're we're we get together frequently at 6AM, this is central time, between six and seven with a group that's headed by a football coach who was assaulted by the ACLJ for turning his team into well, for letting the Lord bring his team to Christ, and this was back in the nineties. The ACLJ got wind of it because they started winning too much and having championship teams and the school was you know, all the kids were getting set free. Well, that was a problem for that was a problem for the ACLJ.
[01:54:09] Unknown:
What was his name? Now you yeah. I was gonna say you say is it ACLU. What was his name? Was it a high school? Well, that's
[01:54:17] Unknown:
yeah. High school. Coach Dave. Coachdavelive.com
[01:54:22] Unknown:
is, the webcast. I think I've heard I think I've heard of him. I think I've heard of him. Maybe heard him talk a while back. It was a number of years ago, but I'm familiar with that situation. I'm anxious to know about the person you were mentioning that's the liaison with the sheriff. Has he gone in front of the county commission there yet and told them what he's gonna do, or is he planning on doing it?
[01:54:46] Unknown:
David, he's no. He hasn't really needed to at had the county commission hasn't really done anything to impede or,
[01:54:56] Unknown:
get involved. I don't believe they can override the sheriff. He's properly elected there in the county just like they are. Like, have do you you're new, so you don't know this. There's another very constitutional sheriff. His name is sheriff Darleith, and he's up in Bear bear what what county is it in Michigan day? Barrow? I keep on to say Barrow. I think it's not that. Anyway, he's got a county up there in Michigan. He's been a constitutional sheriff for over twenty years. Barrow County. Barry, b a r r y. And, he works very closely with our Friday cohost, Brent Winters, who's a constitutional for lack he's an attorney.
He's an expert on the common law. He's also translated his own Bible, been doing it over forty years. And he's in on with us every Friday, RJ. But I was just gonna tell you that Darleaf up there in Barrow County, Michigan is, quite another resource, and he's just like your sheriff's wanting to be. So he may wanna know about him. K?
[01:56:02] Unknown:
Okay. How do you spell the sheriff's last name?
[01:56:05] Unknown:
I think it's l e a f.
[01:56:10] Unknown:
Okay. Leaf. K. Alright. Yes. Darl Leaf.
[01:56:16] Unknown:
Daryl. Uh-huh. Well, I'm not sure he uses DARR, but state of Michigan has been trying to get rid of him and all kinds of stuff, but he stands right there. The people love him. He's got his militia all formed up and all that stuff, and may be a good reference to your sheriff. And if you wanna get in touch with him, I believe we could get Brent to put him together. K?
[01:56:40] Unknown:
He's the longest elected sheriff in Michigan history over twenty years.
[01:56:45] Unknown:
Okay. Is it Michigan? I thought it was The US. In Michigan. Good guy. We had him on the program here. We had him on the program one day for about an hour.
[01:56:54] Unknown:
It might be The US Roger. I'm not sure if, what's his name out there in, Arizona might have had a longer run. I'm not sure.
[01:57:05] Unknown:
I'm not either, but he's been there a long time. The people love him. So, RJ, we're kind of tuning into the end of our little, group gathering here today. Do you have anything else real quick or we'll just invite you back tomorrow?
[01:57:19] Unknown:
Well, I'll I'll plan to come back. You know, check out coachdavelive.com at six seven, seven eastern. If you wanna yeah. This is a this is a good tight group. There's a it's a mastermind, I would say. And so anyone's welcome there.
[01:57:35] Unknown:
Alright. Well, if he's fighting these forces that we are, he needs to know about our information and try to expose him to it. Anyway, being Benitos to you, of course, that's welcome. And I think that's our whistle right there, that's whistling sound. So the spirit you've, showed today, RJ, good to have you. Thanks for coming in. I'm glad you got us off on a better path here, one we are more comfortable on. And, anyway, we'll look forward to seeing you, if not tomorrow soon. And Robbie, thank you for pointing, BirdDog and RJ towards us. So thanks, RJ. You can find the book on the website. It's PDF. We're trying to get it up in hardback again, and it's just hard to get things done around here, you know? Speaking of which, Josh. We got such high we got such high budgets.
Yes, sir. Paul, what speaking of?
[01:58:29] Unknown:
Speaking of which, yes, I have scanned the front and the back cover of the original artwork on the book, and I also scanned the spine. High definition, TIFF image, 600 dpi. Mhmm. And I am ready to send those to whoever wants to assemble that into a book cover. K. Well, let's wait go back and coordinate. We need to coordinate it with Mark, if you will. So Okay.
[01:58:57] Unknown:
Another there's another fly in the ointment, you know, all that. Anyway, we're a kind of a loosely knit group, but we love each other. And, we can help you get free from Satan's grasp and Jewish slavery. And if you'd like to do that, then, and you didn't got that information yet, well, you just come back and visit us on a subsequent program. We're here six days a week, and we'd love to hear from you and see if we can help show you the path to freedom. Until then, have a great day, and we will see you manana.
Roger? Manila manana. Yes, sir.
[01:59:37] Unknown:
No. I just said Roger and then Roger over and out. Oh, okay. There you go, RJ. Gotcha.
[01:59:43] Unknown:
Well, listen. Thanks for dropping by. There's a it's you know, this information changes lives, RJ. That's all I can tell you. And, you get the evidence right here on the show because a bunch of these people will affirm that. And we love all of you. So has anybody else got anything for me today?
[02:00:03] Unknown:
Roger, I've been sharing, your mess I've been sharing about you on that platform off and on for some time. I'm glad finally getting some, benefits, but I'd love to see you go on that show. I don't know if you could do a If I seven 7AM.
[02:00:22] Unknown:
Oh, 7AM? Yes, sir. I I I I I'll tape it. I'm not going on it live.
[02:00:30] Unknown:
Yeah. I don't know.
[02:00:32] Unknown:
I'm I'm retarded now. I don't have to get up that early anymore. You're semi retarded. Yep. That's right. Okay. Who else? Alright. Well, in that case, we're gonna settle the issue, and I'm gonna go about my day. I hope all of y'all have a wonderful, wonderful day today. And, we'll see what all this calamity and stuff happens and turns out by tomorrow. Paul, thank you, buddy. Appreciate you. Appreciate you. Thank you. Thank you right here. Have a good one. Alright.
[02:01:05] Unknown:
I was up at before
[02:01:07] Unknown:
I was up at before six this morning. Okay. Paul can do the show. I'm gonna volunteer Paul to do the show.
[02:01:16] Unknown:
Well, actually, actually, I did have, I didn't, I'm on a platform where, people ask questions and they get, they get, information from other people that that want to, that that wanna put in their 2¢. And I actually did have an answer to something. And if you have a minute, I could read it right quick.
[02:01:49] Unknown:
Alright. I'll stick with you. Go ahead. Go ahead. Okay.
[02:01:53] Unknown:
Well, this is a question. What would happen if Donald Trump suspended the constitution, ruled by emergency executive decree, disbanded congress, and ordered the justice department to arrest a list of the enemies of the people and suspended habeas corpus. This is obviously one of those questions that was posted by a liberal, and it was generated it was to generate dissent and all that happy stuff and paint Donald Trump as a, as a dictator. So my response to it was he doesn't have to suspend the constitution because we've been under a suspended constitution since Lincoln.
He just has to go back to it. Yeah. He just has to go back to it. Right. All this talk about protecting our democracy, spreading democracy around the world. America is the land of the free because of democracy. Blah blah blah. What a load of crap. We weren't a democracy when the country was created. We were a republic. You know that thing Benjamin Franklin was referring to when he said, we gave you a republic if you can keep it? This country has not been free since before 1933, long before, in fact. If you think we are free, tell me three things you can do besides lame answers like eating or breathing, etcetera, that you can do without a license, a permit, or permission.
The answer is not a damn thing. Congress is the problem. The Federal Reserve is the problem. Globalism and central banking is the problem. Career politicians that are so disconnected from the needs of the country and its people is the problem. Please note the rough timeline and a couple of examples of trickery below. Courts are administrative tribunals that get their authority from the Administrative Procedures Act, an unconstitutional act, and consent through the adhesion contracts hidden behind the driver's, a commercial term meaning occupation, license, permission to do that which is otherwise illegal, and the motor vehicle registration, which defines a consumer good or private automobile as a motor vehicle used for commercial purposes and therefore taxable.
The constitution does not apply in administrative courts because they cannot hear matters of law. They deal in equity and contract enforcement. The Trading with the Enemy Act in 1933 defined US citizens as enemies of the state, replacing the German citizens noted in the early nineteen hundreds version. The thirteenth amendment freed the slaves on the plantations, and the fourteenth amendment made everyone subjects, employees, of the US Trading Company, the actual name of The United States and DC, a nation state called District of Columbia and not an actual part of America, and created legal persons, an entity to whom the law ascribes rights and duties.
It is those legal persons under contract law and the law merchant who are violated, accosted, abused, and ruined by thugs that are not peace officers. They're policy enforcement agents of the system that replace replace the republic with the democracy in bankruptcy in 1933. Lawful peace officers used to use cruisers or patrol cars that said to protect and serve on them and actually protected people's rights. Now police or policy enforcement officers violate the first, second, fourth, fifth, sixth, ninth, and tenth amendments to the constitution every day as revenue agents for the state departments of revenue and the DMV.
The DMVs are organized under the American Association of Motor Vehicle Administrators. Their home, aamva.org. Founded in 1933. Oh, there's that pesky 1933 again. So where are your constitutional protections now? The constitution is not above private agreements between parties and actually forbids interference with such agreements. This is why the constitution has been ignored in administrative venues with impunity for over a hundred and fifty years. Just a few examples of many that would not be the case if people were paying attention. Yet another is income tax. Income tax is completely voluntary as long as the income was not derived from the entity that got its life from the federal government, and the citizen slave didn't volunteer to pay it. The Grace Commission report stated that not one penny of income tax goes to the day to day operation of the government. So what pays for it? That is another can of worms there isn't room enough to go into here.
The entirety of government authority lies not in constitutional protections, rights, fair fairness, and justice, but in metting out privileges that come with unfairly burdensome duties under contract law and invisible adhesion contracts. The rights of the people come from their creator and not government. Our duty is to uphold the laws of nature and of nature's god, to be stewards of the land and creation, to love one another as we love ourselves, and to do no harm. If DJT thinks he can put things back in order by obliterating the corporate fascist excrement we have now, I say, mister president, burn that bitch down. Can he fix it? I don't know. Can it even be fixed? I don't know that either. But history has shown we cannot keep doing what we're doing now. Oh, and by the way, we've been in a state of emergency since Lincoln. All Trump really has to do is declare the emergency over. But then he wouldn't have the authority to do the things he's accused of planning without the powers granted by the War Powers Act. Any president can do whatever they want at the stroke of a pen. Obama slipped in that let that cat out of the bag years ago.
Sliding soapbox back under the desk. Thanks for reading. Be well, and God bless everyone.
[02:07:57] Unknown:
Or the slip of a signing pen. Right. Well, that was your answer to the liberal? Yeah. That was my answer to the liberal. You think how how far down do you think he got through that one paragraph, if that much?
[02:08:12] Unknown:
Probably two. But But I hope you felt better. You felt better after you noted it. I do believe that that particular answer has been seen by, how many how many how many people have seen that? Let's see.
[02:08:35] Unknown:
All those people that have seen it missed a missed a link to the matrix, didn't they?
[02:08:41] Unknown:
Yeah. I didn't put one in there. They they, they frown on that crap.
[02:08:50] Unknown:
Are you looking at a You gave him a good you gave him a good tongue lashing, Paul. What was the question? Yeah.
[02:08:58] Unknown:
Are you looking on a website to count how many saw it?
[02:09:03] Unknown:
That's what I'm that's what I'm doing. I'm looking right now.
[02:09:10] Unknown:
Which website which website is it on?
[02:09:15] Unknown:
Oh, okay. My answer said 3,115 views last week, let's see. Let me find it. Let me find it. Let me find it. I'll tell you how many views that one got.
[02:09:29] Unknown:
What website?
[02:09:31] Unknown:
That that got 882 views. It's quoraquora.com, and that that answer had 882 views
[02:09:41] Unknown:
and two shares. Touched a few of them. Maybe oh, two shares. There you go. Yeah. Two shares shared it. Good deal. So Okay. We'll keep lashing them out there, folks.
[02:09:54] Unknown:
Damn near everything I got out of there. Everything I shared with them, I got from you. So thank you. Yeah. They sounded reminiscent when you're going home. Did that sound familiar?
[02:10:06] Unknown:
Kinda. It sounded just like me listening to John Benson, by golly. I will, see y'all tomorrow. Have a wonderful day. RJ, welcome. We'll talk more in the future. And, see y'all. Have a good one.
[02:10:21] Unknown:
Bye. Thank you, guys. See you.
[02:10:23] Unknown:
Semper Fi, everybody. Semper Fi.
[02:10:29] Unknown:
Brilliant, Paul. Thank you so much for reading that. I hope you put it in the chat.
[02:10:35] Unknown:
Actually, I didn't, but I do have the yeah. I can I can throw it in the chat? Let's see.
[02:10:42] Unknown:
Yeah. Good job, Paul. That was excellent. Brilliant.
[02:10:49] Unknown:
Where is it? Where is it? There it is. It's, answering a liberal question PDF, and it's, being uploaded to the chat right now. There you go. 454 it it's a PDF. It's 464. The original question and my answer.
[02:11:19] Unknown:
Two pages. Core is the website,
[02:11:21] Unknown:
c o r a. Yeah. Q u o r a and most of it is just garbage questions. That was one particular question because I saw it as somebody's attempt to throw a narrative out there to demonize Trump. So I, I, let them let them know that, no. No. No. No. No. You guys don't know shit. I answered in I answered another one this morning. Another one, is it legal for a Walmart employee to call the police and tell them they think a customer has a warrant out for their arrest and give the police personal info like their date of birth? Oh, I absolutely have an attitude about that.
No. It is not. Simply being in the public does not constitute a waiver of rights. It matters not if it was a Walmart employee or any other average Joe providing private information. It is still an invasion of privacy. Walmart is not on the hook for it as I expect sharing of information with law enforcement in the absence of an official event is not in their employment contract. A possible warrant for a person's arrest is not a safety net for someone to be a narc and violate the fourth amendment to the constitution. You know that thing they're trying to get rid of to neuter or to ignore?
They pose ridiculous questions in forums forums like this to shift public opinion into thinking this is okay if cops have carte blanche and people have the rights to violate other people's rights. It isn't okay and hopefully never will be. If a person can prove their rights are violated, the violator should be sued and ruined. Maybe they can set up a cot in the sporting goods section of Walmart when the arrestee takes their house. If private information was given because police asked for it, they are both guilty of invasion of privacy and conspiracy against rights.
US code title title 18 section two forty one. The police officers involved lose their cloak of immunity and can be sued as well. Police can ask an individual for their own private information all day long when it's in the course of an investigation. But if police ask someone else to break the law, they lose their unqualified their qualified immunity and become personally liable for their actions. That was my answer.
[02:14:08] Unknown:
Paul, maybe you should start posting some of these on the matrix docs. Maybe Paul's page. But, here's here's a question. Paul, if Roger isn't up early enough to do coach Dave, would you would you consider doing a presentation on behalf of him?
[02:14:31] Unknown:
I don't think I don't think I could do it. I don't think I could do it justice. I don't. Roger's just so good. Roger's just so good. I'm the tech guy. I'm in the background. Roger's the star. Roger's the star. I have absolutely no no intent to to, to be in the limelight. I'm kinda like Gary. I'm forced to be on the, on the Internet and out in the public just because it's what I do. But if I had my choice, I wouldn't be.
[02:15:19] Unknown:
Well, we could get Dave to interview we could get Dave to interview Roger and just play the interview.
[02:15:25] Unknown:
That'd be great. That'd be great. Yeah. We can do that.
[02:15:28] Unknown:
No. And I I will happily facilitate whatever, communication connections are required or necessary for that to happen. So I'd be happy to, provide the platform and all that shit. Just I'd even sit in on it, you know, just to make sure that nothing went weird, nothing technologically failed during the interview. But I Yeah. I have no interest to being I'm being interviewed. So
[02:16:01] Unknown:
Oh, the street located there? Charge.
[02:16:05] Unknown:
Do what?
[02:16:07] Unknown:
Whereabouts are you in the country here?
[02:16:10] Unknown:
I'm in New York. I'm in Upstate New York, Central Upstate New York. I'm 75 miles away from Kanakville.
[02:16:19] Unknown:
And that's where I gave you some.
[02:16:23] Unknown:
There's already a pain. It's called miles perambulation, so
[02:16:28] Unknown:
missed out on that one. Oh, excellent. Excellent. I missed out on that one. Oh, well. That's not my page. That that's that's that's not my page. It's some that's another pool. Yeah.
[02:16:48] Unknown:
Which pool is that? English?
[02:16:50] Unknown:
English? No. No. I don't know what pool that is. You know, I really I really should change my name because with all the Pauls we got around, we got at least one or two other callers that are Pauls. We've got the apostle Paul that people are talking about. And every time somebody says Paul said, my ears perk up and I'm going, what? What? Oh, no. Crap. They're not talking about me. And,
[02:17:20] Unknown:
I don't know.
[02:17:21] Unknown:
Oh, wait a minute. Wait a minute. That was a problem. Okay. Alright. Well, Ferris, wait a minute. I'm gonna I have to duck out of this room and resend that document to the main room. So, I'll be back.
[02:17:48] Unknown:
All all of the rule.
[02:17:51] Unknown:
Wait. Wait. Wait. Here. Here. Let me put that document on the chat box. You to,
[02:17:58] Unknown:
Catskill.
[02:18:01] Unknown:
Hang on a minute. Hang on a minute. I'm uploading a document. There we go. Now I gotta go back to Room 1 Room 1. Where the hell am I? Where the hell am I? There we go. Oh, okay.
[02:18:15] Unknown:
Is that the men's number?
[02:18:17] Unknown:
Now what was your question?
[02:18:20] Unknown:
How close are you to Catskill?
[02:18:22] Unknown:
Oh, to Catskills. I'm at least three hours away from the Catskills,
[02:18:27] Unknown:
at least. Oh, no. Catskill, New York. I thought you were Upstate New York.
[02:18:31] Unknown:
Yeah. I'm up state. I'm in the middle of the state. I'm four and a half hours away from Buffalo and five and a half hours away from the city. Okay. Yeah. The Catskills are south and east of me by quite a ways.
[02:18:52] Unknown:
Yeah. I was flying into Albany. So
[02:18:55] Unknown:
Oh, yeah. Albany is straight south to me Albany is straight south to me, like, a 150 miles, something like that. Maybe? Yeah. Maybe a 100. I'm, 18 miles north of Rome, New York.
[02:19:15] Unknown:
Oh, yeah. Okay.
[02:19:18] Unknown:
Yeah. I told you, dude. I'm I'm in Central New York, and I'm I'm literally spitball distance away from Canada. Wow. Okay. Now I dropped that I dropped that document in the chat. Now it is downloadable in the main room because when I sent it, the other room, it was in Room 1. Anyway
[02:19:43] Unknown:
Paul, but, Paul, the burning question still lies. Where how close are the skilled cats?
[02:19:53] Unknown:
Mhmm. That's it. K. I have no idea.
[02:19:59] Unknown:
My cat is pretty skilled at at, getting me to give her treats and belly rubs and scratches and all that shit. She's Well, there you go. Right near left near left. Yep. She is she is skilled for sure.
[02:20:20] Unknown:
Paul. Paul, are we ready for Wednesday evening or not?
[02:20:25] Unknown:
I no. I am waiting for, Not yet. Everybody to I sent out the, the reminder to 30 people, and, I am I am, I sent that out Sunday morning, and, Francine said, holy cow. You should bottle your sales pitch and sell it because we got tons of people that signed up. Well, there's still more that have to sign up. So and then
[02:21:06] Unknown:
Thank you, Paul. Thank you.
[02:21:08] Unknown:
It will absolutely, positively, definitely second week this month. So one week from Wednesday, it'll absolutely, positively be that day. And I will get everybody all of the information that they need to connect to the courses and all that stuff long before that. But I'll do that by next by this weekend.
[02:21:35] Unknown:
Hey, Guy. And another thing, please don't forget to vote today. Don't forget to vote today.
[02:21:47] Unknown:
Paul, did you get my information information? Did you get my information about the course, the trust course?
[02:21:54] Unknown:
What information did you send? Are you on the list or what? I signed up. I signed up. Okay. Well, let me let me, punch up the, the list of participants. Is this oh, this is the old one. Okay. So I closed that one. Now I need the new one. Yep. Gotcha. You must have signed up yesterday or Sunday.
[02:23:03] Unknown:
Sunday.
[02:23:05] Unknown:
Yeah. You're in there. You're in the list. Let's see. There is 42 people they have paid so far. 44. 44 people so far. But I sent out 30 reminders on Sunday. So just giving them another day to, get on the website and do it. I'd like to get to 50. You know? I think 50 would be a would be a good number that would support common lawyer and all that stuff. 50 times 30 ain't a, you know.
[02:24:10] Unknown:
Well, you could add me to the list if you want.
[02:24:15] Unknown:
Alright. Give me a
[02:24:22] Unknown:
oh, damn.
[02:24:25] Unknown:
I accidentally What time is the class? That'll
[02:24:29] Unknown:
be RJ, just so you know, it's a it's a trust class and, by this common law lawyer, and that's his forte. And the course is only $30, and it's more than worth it just for the PDFs and and the the templates, the trust templates. But and you can list if you can't listen to it live, I'm sure that Paul will have it archived. So it's more than worth it worth its cost.
[02:25:00] Unknown:
Yeah. There's there's recordings.
[02:25:05] Unknown:
Yeah. You know, I'd be delighted to join.
[02:25:12] Unknown:
Okay. If if you wanna join, what I will do is, I will send you let's see. Let's see. Let's see. Where's the reminder? Where's the trust course reminder?
[02:25:47] Unknown:
For Trust course reminder. K.
[02:25:50] Unknown:
Yeah. Just send an email to me at p g biener, pgbiener,@gmail.com. Just send me an email with the word trust in the subject line, and then I'll send you the instructions on how to, on how to, sign up. Okay?
[02:26:17] Unknown:
Okay. That's p g d?
[02:26:20] Unknown:
B b as in boy, bravo. Okay. P g d, India. I will call it. Here. Let me give it let me give you the whole thing phonetically. It's [email protected].
[02:26:49] Unknown:
Yeah. Errol Schmidt. Errol Schmidt. Schmidt, s c h Okay. M I d t.
[02:26:58] Unknown:
Carl, send me an email too. Just put trust in the subject line. Yeah.
[02:27:05] Unknown:
Thank you for using the phonetic alphabet. Correct, Hite?
[02:27:11] Unknown:
You're welcome. My my pappy didn't raise no turnip farmer. Anyway, got a phone call. Anybody that wants, wants the information on the trust course, just send an email to pgbeaner,[email protected]. Just put trust in the subject line, and I will get you hooked up. Alright? Thanks. I'm getting in my phone call now.
[02:28:02] Unknown:
I came across something on trying to perfect my mailing location. And, I was wondering if anybody knows to this this distinction, you in the last line, basically, you'd have The United States Of America, but United would be in square brackets and a lowercase u. Does anybody know why?
[02:28:39] Unknown:
I was told it was because I was told it was because they were United States, and so it wasn't a capital united. It was States United, so it was considered a lowercase u.
[02:28:56] Unknown:
Yeah. That this I noticed it in first in, Lee Bros. Declaration of independence when he is talking about getting out of the, democracy and returning to the republic. And that's in his last line in that way, yet he doesn't clearly just explain it in in the piece that I could find. So I did some research, and really what it comes down to is that is because the original articles of Confederation and the constitution used the lower lowercase u to emphasize the selective distinction of the power of the states, and that it actually represents the republic and not the democracy.
[02:29:59] Unknown:
Correct. Pretty important. Yes. And that was part of my definitions and my original status correction with that I did with Bork. He's he covers all that very well, and he covers that well. I believe in the red amendment as well, but he probably, you know, borrowed it from others. But, yeah, real important distinction.
[02:30:18] Unknown:
Yeah. I mean and and you know when it changed when they started using upper case? Right after the civil war. There you go. Yep.
[02:30:39] Unknown:
It's ought to be taught in every civics class. Actually, you teach it before before your student gets to a civics class. They need to know it going in.
[02:30:53] Unknown:
And the and the the other thing that I never understood is I used it before, but I didn't understand it was why you would use in care of nondomestic. Because in technical terms, when you don't, all mail is is theoretically circulated through Washington DC. But when you say nondomestic, it is not considered that in their jurisdiction.
[02:31:32] Unknown:
So are we Being a retired postmaster, I say hockey on it going down to Washington DC before that's where you're needing it to go. They're just letting you to get it out of the plant.
[02:31:47] Unknown:
Can you explain that one more time? Maybe a little more detail.
[02:31:51] Unknown:
I am a retired postmaster. I work for The United States Postal Service thirty one years nine months. And when he make the claim that when you say nondomestic, it's because that way it's not transferred down through Washington, DC and back out.
[02:32:06] Unknown:
Yeah. That's my understanding.
[02:32:08] Unknown:
Well Thank you. I I've I've I've gone into the plant, and I've watched operations, and there's no way the mail is going to Washington, DC and then back out where it's it. We're lucky to get it to be even to move out of the plant.
[02:32:23] Unknown:
It's well, it's a theoretical thing. It's it's a claim. It's not publicly physically happening.
[02:32:31] Unknown:
Right? So It it signify it signifies the jurisdiction of the District of Columbia, the federal state, the federal, US trade. What did what did we call it earlier? Paul said United States trading company. It signifies it's under their authority, under their jurisdiction. Good to know, so in care of, or you just put in put non domestic in the square bracket or not?
[02:33:09] Unknown:
No. Just putting in in care of non domestic. But there's a lot of punctuation and then, of course, parentheses around the things that they own, like the ZIP code being near and and all that distinction. But, my didn't have that lowercase u in there, which, I'm definitely gonna change. Because on all my documents that are record, they're gonna be asked to send that back to me and acknowledging me, and they're gonna have to use that exact address. At least they're instructed to do so. Whether they do it or not, we'll see. But I know some people have made enough changes in their location that they get refused, but I, that's another thing to see if this is gonna work. Samuel?
[02:34:06] Unknown:
Yeah.
[02:34:07] Unknown:
What are you talking about the lowercase u?
[02:34:11] Unknown:
In United States Of America, you wanna put the lowercase u in square brackets Yes. Not alphabet case. And the reason you're using the square bracket brackets instead of just putting the u is you're telling them that you're cognizant of this correction, and it has meaning, and it's a correction
[02:34:35] Unknown:
because It's not it's not misspelling.
[02:34:38] Unknown:
Yeah. And it's standard, and what's acceptable these days is the upper case, which just happened to, come into effect after, Lincoln.
[02:34:51] Unknown:
So the way I've been doing it and and tell me if this is right or wrong is United is lowercase, states is lowercase, of is lowercase, then America is upper case.
[02:35:05] Unknown:
The way Prost did it was it's just The U and United that's lowercase, states is still up, and, America is still up. So
[02:35:15] Unknown:
Got it. Even though when we say we're when we say any when we're referring to I gotta think about this now. The the states, when you use a capital s state versus the lower s state, we always want to follow the lowercase s. Is that not correct?
[02:35:40] Unknown:
Well, in I my I'm I'm terrible at English and in grammar. I I I, you know, but my understanding is is you use the upper case state when you're talking about a specific state, like California. So in your address, you also have California there, so it's upper case s. Okay. If it's if it's the states in general, my understanding, it would be lower case.
[02:36:10] Unknown:
So when I'm writing a document and I say that I am a Utah national, my uppercase UFor Utah, Lowercase NForNational. Is that correct?
[02:36:28] Unknown:
I I don't use national. I use, Californian. One of the people.
[02:36:37] Unknown:
Well, yeah, what did I say? Utahn with an with an n at the end. Yeah. Just like it has in the style manual.
[02:36:47] Unknown:
So that but then you said national. Yeah. And and I don't use national. That's all I'm saying. So
[02:36:57] Unknown:
because we talked we talked about this the other day. I I I, you know, maybe I I think we did. And that was the making the distinction of who you are and don't just use the term national. But if you if you add the Utah or Idahoian or Montanian or or, Hawaiian resident, national at the end was a better way to do that.
[02:37:31] Unknown:
Yeah. I I basically am saying, a Californian, one of the people, a Christian. Those three are used together.
[02:37:41] Unknown:
One of the people, a Christian.
[02:37:43] Unknown:
Yeah.
[02:37:44] Unknown:
K. No. I like it. I'm I'm working on some documents that I I'd really wanna incorporate distinction in there. So I'm just trying to get it so then I can refer back to my distinction to know exactly how to refer to it. So I just my stroke, sometimes I I mess stuff up. So I wanna make sure I am a 100% on a confusing subject.
[02:38:14] Unknown:
I listened to an hour long tape the other day of a Brit who is doing this in England. His name was Stewart. I didn't catch his last name, but he's called the bald headed head somebody somebody. I forget the name on the YouTube channel, but pretty interesting what this guy has done. And his emphasis, like Mirko's is, is that we are in the private, not the public. And he emphasizes that every few sentences that being in the private is where we wanna be and stating that to them, I think, is important. Miss Merkel, when she got her letter back from the attorney general, he acknowledged that we have a great respect for our private citizens.
[02:39:14] Unknown:
And you believe him. Yeah?
[02:39:19] Unknown:
I
[02:39:24] Unknown:
don't think it's overly I don't know. I think it's as long as we know who we are, but we really need to know how to present it. Just like having a a a, a breast or, you know, having that mark that says exactly who we are so that it can be it just gives it more authenticity to the fact.
[02:39:58] Unknown:
Well, it's jurisdictional, and you're basically telling them you telling them where you're really located, not where they located you. You're correcting your location. Some kind and address is bad because that's a commercial term as well.
[02:40:22] Unknown:
And what do you what do you put in in place?
[02:40:25] Unknown:
I'm the best thing I have is location.
[02:40:30] Unknown:
What if, here's a situation I'm in because the state of Arkansas is I got the traffic ticket, and I spoke with the prosecuting attorney yesterday, told me, if you wanna get a continuance, you need to send us an affidavit stating why I needed continuance so the judge can approve or, you know, see it. And my thought is to write as far as my the address on the affidavit would be and on the envelope too, say sent maybe put in there the private domicile of one of the people, Randall Barnett, then you got down to Tulsa County or is it County Of Tulsa, there's one that's proper, correct? You know, just like you don't say State Of Oklahoma, do you? Capital S, State of, because I think that's the corporate, isn't it?
[02:41:32] Unknown:
I believe so.
[02:41:34] Unknown:
So you'd say Oklahoma state, and that'd be a small s?
[02:41:43] Unknown:
And anytime you use the proper state, then I'm my understanding is the state is capitalized. If you're talking about the states as a whole, it's lowercase. That's my understanding.
[02:41:57] Unknown:
Okay.
[02:41:58] Unknown:
But It'd be from In the in in in a lot of this in my documentation, I just tell them that I'm one of the people of California. California, and I keep state out of it, and I keep I personally keep national out of it. Other people are using national. But I decided to drop it because it's too confusing. And all of the court documents we have, on the subject refer to state citizen versus a federal citizen. So so in those documents, I can refer to those look up these cases to understand what I'm saying, you know.
[02:42:47] Unknown:
Citizen, lowercase is a good distinction to use.
[02:42:53] Unknown:
Not if it's not if it's you not if you're talking about your specific state. Lowercase u is the important thing that I brought up earlier in square brackets making the distinction that you're in the you're not in the democracy anymore, but you're in the republic because your lowercase u was used in the articles of Confederation and in the Constitution. Okay. And that didn't change up until the Civil War. That's when they started using uppercase u in United States Of America. Anyway, just thought people might wanna know.
[02:43:45] Unknown:
Yeah. That's important. So if somewhere in the in the content of a document, I'd say, you know, I'm writing as a citizen of the Oklahoma. So just say citizen of Oklahoma.
[02:44:04] Unknown:
I I would I would one of the people. I would drop citizen, because that's a a Roman term for a denizen, and, that's not so good. So, just say just say your state. Your that should be clear enough to them. You know? You're a Californian, a Virginian, etcetera. Okay. That would work. Or one and and add to that maybe what McDonald did. He's he always said the courts knew when he told them that he was one of the people. He was telling them that's a common law court now, and he says they understood what I what I meant.
[02:44:49] Unknown:
Yeah. Does people capitalize?
[02:44:54] Unknown:
One of the people.
[02:44:57] Unknown:
I mean, we the people?
[02:45:01] Unknown:
Well, that's the reference, of course. I'm not sure, so I'm not gonna say. K. But I did.
[02:45:09] Unknown:
I would imagine that's acceptable to say,
[02:45:14] Unknown:
you know, I'm sorry. It it's people in general, so my guess would it be lowercase. But you're actually talking about you being one of them, so maybe proper grammar would be uppercase. Somebody who's good at grammar probably answered that question. I mean, we really should have grammar books in our libraries be that that date back to this time because it really is important when it's another subject that nobody ever tells us about in civics anymore. Right?
[02:45:47] Unknown:
Like or Or you can write you can write a definitions page, you know, and then use Webster's or whatever. But, I started to use great cloud of witnesses because I think it's a holy you know, we're the holy ones. You know? We're not denizens, like you said. We're not something that Rome constructed.
[02:46:03] Unknown:
Yeah. So what I when I did it in my legal document and said one of the people, I referred them to the constitution using we the people in it as why I'm selecting one of them. So just to make it clear. So I put a little, you know, footnote there, and that's in the footnotes.
[02:46:34] Unknown:
And it's difficult because as brother Gregory gets into, do we wanna be a constitutor? You know? I mean, are we we're really not a party to the constitution. The the state is. Well, I don't disagree with that either. Mhmm. I
[02:46:49] Unknown:
my preference is putting my creator first. This other stuff is all secondary. All acknowledgment to him first. One of the reasons I used the term covenant in my the podium and my land patent paperwork and have Jesus as my as where I'm getting my inheritance from or probably better, Yeshua.
[02:47:27] Unknown:
Yeah. I'm hoping I can do a one page affidavit. Maybe it'll be two pages. I'll I get everything correct and then have room for the notaries stamp and so forth at the bottom. I wonder I don't want to tip my hand too much, but they'll recognize this is common law when they see it, I'm sure. Supposing these judges have been in business a while.
[02:48:01] Unknown:
Are you talking about the affidavit to the secretary of state?
[02:48:05] Unknown:
No. I'm talking about the traffic judge in Arkansas.
[02:48:09] Unknown:
Uh-huh.
[02:48:15] Unknown:
I got to fire this affidavit off. Really, I got to get it going today because Thursday is my supposed appearance. But I get to email it. So I can email I've been told I can email it. And I don't know. I don't wanna tip my hand in the first document if I don't have all I'm trying to get is a continuous. You know? I'm not trying to solve the case. But, you know, thinking in terms of strategy, you know, they may hand this off to the senior judge, you know, who's gonna be the sharpshooter that wants to, you know, they put a sign to my case.
[02:49:14] Unknown:
The minute you step into their courtroom, you give them jurisdiction. Period.
[02:49:22] Unknown:
Yeah. So the question would be, I'm requesting continuance from the court through another latter date, you know, next year and requesting continuance in order to prepare, for a special appearance. And that's a subtle way if they if they don't know, you know, special appearance means I'm coming in place of the corporate, you know, corporate entity that's named on the license. Or should I say I'm appearing to represent
[02:50:16] Unknown:
that corporate entity? I would suggest having a writ ready to submit into the upper courts because they will railroad you. And if they don't, I'd be surprised, but they'll railroad you. You may get it at a later date, but they'll railroad you.
[02:50:40] Unknown:
So have a rent prepared for upper court?
[02:50:48] Unknown:
Yes. And it's not the writ of mandamus. It's, oh, the other one. Samuel, you probably know the term or George.
[02:51:02] Unknown:
Or Warrutov?
[02:51:10] Unknown:
No.
[02:51:21] Unknown:
Well, there was a question on, grammar and styles and stuff. The Loyola School Law Library has has legal writing, citations, grammar, and style guides at their website. I put it in in this chat and the Chitango, two Radio Ranch Chitango. And they have lots of information if you want it on how to write properly.
[02:51:53] Unknown:
Hey, Sketch. Can you put that PDF in there too? It wasn't still in there when I signed on. Or, I I mean, it was, in the rumble. I had the rumble open too, and, of course, you can't click on anything there, but it shows. And, also, any private messages to Paul, I only saw yours, show up in the rumble.
[02:52:17] Unknown:
Really? Mhmm.
[02:52:20] Unknown:
That's interesting.
[02:52:21] Unknown:
Yeah. Didn't know that one.
[02:52:24] Unknown:
I'm I'm not sure I would expect anything from Loyola, you know, Jesuit as being at least I'd put up another one to compare it with and see if they are the same. It's Something else older like Webster's or Samuel.
[02:52:45] Unknown:
It's it's it's linked to all kinds of guides. It's not loyal law styles manual. It's has all the styles manuals. It has black's law dictionary dictionaries, grammar, citations, how to write good law properly.
[02:53:05] Unknown:
Yeah. It's a law library guide. It says, law lib guide. It happens to be located there.
[02:53:14] Unknown:
Going back to that writ, I'm sure a writ of mandamus would work, but the one I'm thinking of is the writ of corpus Habeas corpus.
[02:53:25] Unknown:
Oh, okay.
[02:53:36] Unknown:
You might wanna look at at stampers abatement, because the first thing that you're doing when you're communicating them is you're putting yourself in joiner. And, what what Stamper's basically saying is, you need to know the action and the cause in order to create a defense. And, they, of course, aren't gonna tell you that because it's not a lawful thing that they're doing. But to get a good description of that, there's Judge Stamper's abatement on traffic.
[02:54:18] Unknown:
Where's his website?
[02:54:22] Unknown:
I don't think he has a website, but Paul's got that posted in the matrix docs.
[02:54:27] Unknown:
I do believe. Oh, okay. Alright. I've seen judge Stamper before. I think I've seen that reference.
[02:54:37] Unknown:
Yeah. He calls it his abatement of common law. And there's a letter in there basically telling him, hey, judge. You know, I realized that, when I show up, you're gonna take jurisdiction. So I don't really agree with that, and here's why, and blah blah blah. He because that's you really according to Stamper, if you show up, you are under their jurisdiction.
[02:55:05] Unknown:
Regardless When I do yeah. So that's that's when you show up, meaning you drive on to their public highway or you pull up in their parking lot or when you appear in the courtroom.
[02:55:18] Unknown:
My understanding is in the courtroom. Yeah. That's jurisdiction.
[02:55:22] Unknown:
So before I go in the courtroom, I walk up to the court clerk and submit a file on demand in response well, the question is am I responding to their citation when I file?
[02:55:43] Unknown:
Stamper sort of covers all of that in his little thing. That's why I mentioned it. Okay. The only thing about that the only thing about that document, it's it confuses me because I don't know. He doesn't have it like, this is the first thing you do. This is the second thing you do. You know? It's a little confusing to me, but, I think it'll be helpful. Because if you can get them to respond to the action and cause, which is something he says is usually the end of it because they're not gonna go there. Because they that's common law, and and they're not functioning in that.
So the legislature came up with stuff that's not constitutional or ever passed properly, and that's what they have you there under for their action and cause when that is not what they're supposed to be doing. So they're not gonna tell you that. So that's sort of Stamper's approach, and that's why he's calling it it, an abatement of common law or in common law, should be proper way to say it. Because you as a state citizen are technically in law, in the common law, whereas that's why attorney is at law because he's technically outside of it.
[02:57:12] Unknown:
Now I've I've filed an affidavit law you know, a while back in Tulsa County Court, which was a it was a signed affidavit stating I'm a free man, you know, that that type of a filing. I don't know if I would wanna attach that or make reference to it, but I've I've not done an authentication or a, you know, status correction through the state secretary of state. I have not done that. By that one, I'm not a different You're
[02:57:47] Unknown:
gonna be on shaky ground then, I'd I'd say so. You just sounds like to me at this point then you should just cash in your chips and get ready to play another day.
[02:58:04] Unknown:
Yeah. If they wanted to investigate, they might they might, what, look to find or see if I ever did do a proper status correction.
[02:58:16] Unknown:
Jesse, that that's one of the things that, would be a hole in in even what Stamper is doing in his abatement because I think that the affidavits would be submitted along along with it. But then again, I'm I'm not sure. I mean, if if we had more practice cases of this, it'd be nice.
[02:58:43] Unknown:
But
[02:58:45] Unknown:
it it doesn't take much for these guys to just plain want to assume that you're a citizen, and to put you in that category. That's that's the difficult thing is to convince them that you're actually unique, and that affidavit is gonna be critical to that with the secretary of state.
[02:59:16] Unknown:
So having it filed in the county district court in Tulsa, it hasn't gone I mean, I don't think they took it to the secretary of state to process it. You have to you have to do it directly. Yeah.
[02:59:35] Unknown:
And then what I'm doing, which is probably different than anybody else, but Lee Brosse at the end of his, article on named The USA, the Republic, the house that nobody lives in, at the end of that document, he talks about a declaration of independence that you file in your local paper of record for the prescribed number of days under statute of the state to be a legal, lawful, document as your local notice. So I'm gonna be doing that as well and hopefully recording that at my county seat as well.
[03:00:26] Unknown:
Yeah.
[03:00:28] Unknown:
I I really believe that we we've gotta do better job of noticing our local people, and that's gonna be part of my attempt to strengthen that because I've been here quite a long time, and it appears to me and I don't think anybody here could argue with, the fact that, the people who do a better job of notifications are the people who have more success of being left alone, which is what we all want. We wanna be left alone. Right? We don't want conflict. We don't Right. Want to run with them. We just wanna be appreciated for what we are and the change we made and, have them go away.
But you gotta let them know. I definitely would do your state attorney general, your local district attorney, and your sheriff at least. You know? But first, you have to have that affidavit filed with the Secretary of State of The United States.
[03:01:49] Unknown:
That's the beginning point, and then you can go to the others and say it's you've corrected the status.
[03:01:55] Unknown:
Correct.
[03:02:01] Unknown:
Okay.
[03:02:04] Unknown:
Stanford Stanford I like Stanford because he was my second witness to what Roger was doing because at the very beginning of his book, yes, what he did is, he filed an affidavit with the Secretary of State telling him that he was no longer a fourteenth amendment feudal slave. No. Thank you. But he took about five pages to do that, covering the constitution on the way. So
[03:02:40] Unknown:
Well, I'd also add to and I I don't I didn't hear what this court case is for, but when the judge, deems you guilty, because I'm pretty sure he's going to, They'll say when do you wanna when can you pay the ticket? And you say I I essentially, you need to refuse and say, I object. I'm I'm not going to pay for I am I'm an I'm a Utahn. I'm I'm one of the people. And try and spot that out three times. Let them know who you are, what you are. And I would say the power of three. Yeah. But he doesn't have his affidavit filed, so he can't do that. It doesn't matter. I don't believe it matters what you have filed. I I kinda wonder that. You know? It may. I mean, it may, but really who gave you authority, and that's God. God is above all.
God created man, man created government.
[03:03:44] Unknown:
How about this? You're in an interesting
[03:03:47] Unknown:
I would do it this way that I object to the payment to any payment on grounds of who I am, have been, and have declared myself to be, as a be date and and put down the date of the original notarized affidavit. So I say it three times who I am, have been, and have declared.
[03:04:12] Unknown:
Well, what's Stamper saying what what Stamper is saying in in his abatement is you can't make a plea because you don't know the action and the cause, which means you can't prepare a defense one way or the other without having that information. And he's saying they're just gonna go into default mode for that reason.
[03:04:36] Unknown:
Well, they're gonna they're gonna presume that you or you're presuming that they're going to tell you the nature and the cause in truth versus, you know, you know, realistic. It's just they're with a no jurisdiction, which you aren't a party to. I think knowing that that term would be important.
[03:05:01] Unknown:
Yeah. Stamper discusses the arguments if the judge says this, this, and this in there. If it's admiralty, it's equity, etcetera. He has, rebuts for for all of those situations. Again, it would be nice just not to be there. That's why I like the book of the hundreds because they don't show up.
[03:05:28] Unknown:
They're gonna they're gonna railroad you because they're allotting for your case a maximum of thirty minutes. And that's I don't I don't think that. I bet you it's fifteen minutes. Maybe one of them is five, probably.
[03:05:41] Unknown:
Yeah.
[03:05:44] Unknown:
No. The it's just that that's the system. And, I mean, I I regret I agree agreeing to pay the ticket on mine, and that is because I mean, granted, I only had a driver's license at the time, and so that struck me or that struck me in their jurisdiction. And I will concede to that, but in the case of it, it was incorrect.
[03:06:10] Unknown:
Carl, you're I don't know if you're too close to your phone or something, but you're cracking pretty hard.
[03:06:15] Unknown:
Sorry. No. I'm just I got headphones off at the gym,
[03:06:19] Unknown:
and it's noisy here. So it's just noisy.
[03:06:25] Unknown:
That's better.
[03:06:26] Unknown:
Oh, it sure better. I know. That's a it raises an interesting, you know, philosophical question. Can we pay anything? I remember being in court and the judge said, we you know, when I tendered a note, you know, I just said that there's a a revolving note. It was a little, little recording that was going around. And now we're just passing promissory notes to each other where promissory note says instead. And I tried to pass that off to the Department of Revenue. And then the judge said, well, you can't pay that way. You have to pay in currency, US currency. I was like, well, really? That was when, you know, MacDon Macdonald told me when I told him on the phone about that. He said, oh, he should've said, you know, where's the evidence that there is a state statute that says I have to pay in Federal Reserve notes? And I was thinking, I wonder if we, if we any payment, you know, any bill, we just say the same. We can't you know, we don't know what that means to make to make a payment.
It's not in our legalese. We're not within the purview of the fourteenth, the Reconstruction, the currency system, etcetera. I know it's the coin of the realm, but I don't know. Has anybody raised that issue in anything outside of court?
[03:07:47] Unknown:
Well, technically, if the judge is asking you to pay in a state citizen's jargon, that means gold and silver. Because in that currency, you're just deferring to a promise to pay. You're not paying. So you ask the judge, are you saying I need to pay you in gold and silver? Because of my status, that's a payment, not using currency. But I wouldn't even go there. You shouldn't be talking to the guy. Right?
[03:08:25] Unknown:
Right. So now I get into, like, well, what about just common life, you know, like, for housing, you know, not only property tax, but any any bill that's related to a house should be verboten to us, should be off limits, should be handled the same way, you know, because we're under we're under the courts of heaven. You know, we're not under the court of the fourteenth amendment. We're in that that religious order.
[03:08:50] Unknown:
Yeah. Well, we're all living in those 10 planks, the communist manifesto. National bank, national education, and you don't own your land, etcetera. They're all there. Yet we're gonna go off and fight communism in South America. Right?
[03:09:10] Unknown:
Exactly. Well, we are the the worst we are we are worse than Maduro.
[03:09:16] Unknown:
Lower third. Anybody else. Alright. We've just More hours of propaganda per capita.
[03:09:27] Unknown:
I just put in in the chat a short video, and there's a woman who was successful after being sentenced. She says, I claim common law's jurisdiction. I do not consent consent and waive the benefit.
[03:09:47] Unknown:
And
[03:09:49] Unknown:
she did not have to do any payment. You're interested.
[03:09:56] Unknown:
I think if you focus on the fact that the judge never rebutted anything in your affidavit. The case must be thrown out.
[03:10:11] Unknown:
Yeah. First, you need one.
[03:10:16] Unknown:
They have the obligation to respond.
[03:10:21] Unknown:
If the judge doesn't affirm anything and when I'm requesting cause and action, Requesting to know the cause and the action that or action and cause, which is it. The state's taking an action here. Right?
[03:10:47] Unknown:
Yeah. Well So you're talking in common law when you're making those statements.
[03:10:52] Unknown:
The nature of the cause.
[03:10:55] Unknown:
You need to read Stamper's abatement. He covers this, why that's important. This is looking for where's the harm party party. You know? Where's the property damage damage? Who's the party that's been damaged, etcetera?
[03:11:12] Unknown:
The first thing you need to find out is what the nature and cause of the action is. That'll tell you what body of law they're working with. Because if it's administrative procedure, then the state can be the injured party. You have to claim common law jurisdiction. I believe. Then your other claims to to face your accuser will actually hold water or otherwise, they're gonna just steamroll right over you.
[03:11:42] Unknown:
Yeah. Yeah. Uh-huh. Yeah. I I don't I didn't get the chat opened up for this today. So but, anyway, I'll I'll, I think there's enough here. I'll get Stanford's information, read through it. I don't know if I would be claiming common law in an affidavit. I'm just the mainly wanna get them on record at what what is their nature and cause to determine what court this is, at the court it is, and the harm and the damage so forth. Well, appreciate all this, fellas. Very, very helpful.
[03:12:38] Unknown:
And don't forget the phrase meaningful defense. That's why you need to know the nature and cause so you can mount a meaningful defense.
[03:12:50] Unknown:
And that's why you can't please because you don't even know what it what's going on yet. They're asking you to plea right away. Right? Well, tell them you don't even know the nature and cause, so you you'd have to know that in order to build the defense. So how can you plea?
[03:13:10] Unknown:
And if your only witness is a policeman, there are ways to impeach him because you will get the judge saying saying he cannot make a legal determination
[03:13:22] Unknown:
because he has no firsthand knowledge of any of this.
[03:13:27] Unknown:
Look up Mark Stevens.
[03:13:31] Unknown:
Yeah. Adventures in Legal Land. That's a good book. Everybody should have a copy of it.
[03:13:38] Unknown:
Everybody. He's in all also of the agent of the same people that are charging you.
[03:13:43] Unknown:
That's right. How is that not a conflict of interest?
[03:13:49] Unknown:
Title forty two nineteen eighty three. Color of law color of law. Present that to the judge judge.
[03:14:01] Unknown:
Title forty three?
[03:14:03] Unknown:
Forty two.
[03:14:07] Unknown:
Title forty two nineteen eight.
[03:14:10] Unknown:
1980. Pretty sure that's for citizens who lost their rights, so now we gotta give them some new ones under another name.
[03:14:23] Unknown:
I guess you guys know Mark Stevens' real name is Frank Rizzo.
[03:14:28] Unknown:
Oh, really?
[03:14:50] Unknown:
So Mark Stevens is one of the authors, they are.
[03:14:56] Unknown:
The book called Adventures in Legal Land.
[03:15:09] Unknown:
Well, my biggest challenge upfront is that I'm so I've got I'm piled under with other demands on my time. So to get through and process all this information and write this amazing document is going to stretch the limits of my endurance. I've got a lot on the plate. I'm sure we all do anyway.
[03:15:37] Unknown:
Right.
[03:15:41] Unknown:
Yeah. Speaking of that, I gotta get to work here.
[03:15:50] Unknown:
Alright. Take it easy. I guess it's gonna be time to take the stream down, isn't it? But it's it's
[03:15:59] Unknown:
Oh, I missed it.
[03:16:02] Unknown:
Oh, don't worry about it. You'll be able to catch it in the archive because it's,
[03:16:06] Unknown:
Paul, I got a question real quick real quick.
[03:16:09] Unknown:
Shane Shane's had his hand up forever.
[03:16:14] Unknown:
Who has?
[03:16:16] Unknown:
Shane? Shane?
[03:16:19] Unknown:
Well, he knows
[03:16:21] Unknown:
he knows how to unmute himself and say hello. I'm just saying I'm just saying. Hello? He just said something about missing it, so I just wanted to say Mhmm. Stand up.
[03:16:33] Unknown:
Hello, Shane. What you got? Hello. I'm sorry.
[03:16:39] Unknown:
I have my hands up. Sorry.
[03:16:42] Unknown:
Oh, that's okay. It was probably by accident.
[03:16:47] Unknown:
Ethan, that's on a couple of minutes.
[03:16:49] Unknown:
Yep. Paul, I have a question.
[03:16:51] Unknown:
Okay.
[03:16:54] Unknown:
If you make this payment to Brad's trust thing, can you just get a paperwork, version of that versus having to attend the meetings?
[03:17:11] Unknown:
I don't see why not, but, the meetings are going to be in Zoom and in a free conference call. So if you just wanna dial in just like you do to, FCC, you could hear the lecturer and take notes.
[03:17:32] Unknown:
How much time is this gonna encompass?
[03:17:36] Unknown:
It's at least, 12, at least 12 lessons. Yeah. And each one is, I believe, ninety minutes long.
[03:17:48] Unknown:
Yeah. I'd rather have it in some kind of a hard copy, but I I know that's probably not happening complete. Right? But maybe something comprehensive at least.
[03:17:59] Unknown:
Oh, I have no idea. The only
[03:18:03] Unknown:
Question you could ask them maybe maybe.
[03:18:06] Unknown:
The only way that would happen is if there was, if I used Podholm and generated a transcript for each lesson.
[03:18:22] Unknown:
Do you have to post it if you generate it through Pod Home?
[03:18:28] Unknown:
What I can do is I can do it as the secondary channel and just set those, set those episodes to unpublished. And then I would send the links, to the participants to be able to, access those shows.
[03:18:51] Unknown:
That might be a way for you, Samuel, because there'll be a transcript.
[03:18:57] Unknown:
Yeah. It'd be nice to have hard documents as well, like forms and such.
[03:19:04] Unknown:
I think you would just have to bear the cost of printing them printing them.
[03:19:10] Unknown:
So you think they'll be included in the well, I I just don't know. Just some questions I have. I I think it'd be valuable information to have. I I just don't think I'd have that kind of time to spend, and I would probably miss some of it. So it'd be nice if there was a hard copy of some kind that at least be cleared notes and then forms.
[03:19:31] Unknown:
Mhmm.
[03:19:33] Unknown:
Something to ask him. See if he see what he says.
[03:19:37] Unknown:
I will check and find out.
[03:19:41] Unknown:
Yeah. Power of AI. Artificial intelligence.
[03:19:45] Unknown:
Yeah. I I I actually I actually proceed on a AI. It's artificial arts artificial intelligence. It's, like, not so smart.
[03:20:02] Unknown:
Nice.
[03:20:05] Unknown:
Alright. Anyways Well this has been
[03:20:09] Unknown:
Yeah. Brock is on, what, four or five now? It's totally closure. Right.
[03:20:16] Unknown:
Mhmm. Yeah. Exactly. Okay. This has been the Radio Ranch with Roger Sales. This is the Tuesday, edition of the Radio Ranch. You can catch us Monday through Saturday, 11AM to 1PM eastern. For more information on the topics discussed, please visit our website, thematrixdocs.com, where you will find information for new students. You'll find interviews, downloadables, exhibits. You will find Roger's book, From Sovereign to Surf. Download the PDF. It's right there. Thank you so much for joining us. I'm Paul from Global Voice Network. We will catch you right back here very soon, hopefully, on the Radio Ranch with Roger Sales.
Ciao. Have a great day. Blasting the voice of freedom worldwide, you're listening to the Global Voice Radio Network.
[03:21:29] Unknown:
Bye bye, boys. Have fun storming the castle.
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Inflation, rates, and Federal Reserve mechanics
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OBFR vs FOMC, reserves, and Fed board disputes
Velocity of money, demurrage, and gold vs fiat
Foreign policy, Venezuela/Argentina, and BRICS
Communism at home vs abroad: spirited exchange
New caller RJ: sheriffs, status, and resources
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Coach Dave, constitutional sheriffs, and local organizing
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Upstate NY geography, scheduling, and trust course signup
Mailing location, "United" casing, and non‑domestic notes
Identity phrasing: people, state, and grammar nuance
Traffic case tactics: continuance, abatement, and writs
Paying in currency, gold and silver, and court strategy
Wrapping up: archives, course logistics, and sign‑off